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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] TEKHD:
[MENTION=3812611]elliwigy[/MENTION] First of all, don't take this wrong... But if you are going to release your work, I think you have to do it soon. Carriers are getting Pie. For example, AT&T users already got Pie on N960U. I assume users can't upgrade to Pie in order to apply your work and gain the partial root that you are mentioning. Everyday that goes on, less and less users will be able to enjoy your work. And if your method does works for other devices... then its the same for all devices... S9/S9+ already got Pie on all carriers. Less and less users by the minute. I think it is pretty clear by now that this is your job and only your job... so, you will get your deserved credit, no question about that. My concern is that there might be nobody left to use this in a few days/weeks. And... and... I have a N960U too... (TMB) lol... (with frozen system updates in order to avoid Pie) I would gladly postpone Pie for a few week/months or even permanently if I am able to partially root my N9, thats a no-brainer for me. With root we can all make wonders with the N9 (instead of a stock boring device) All I mentioned is assuming Pie will brake your root method and also assuming we won't be able to revert... Think about it... Good Luck.

Also, quick question... do you have access to ODM via scripts/commands? Are you able to edit carrier CSC's in order to add/remove features?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
hello sir.. i might just post details soon.. i am without a windows PC currently so have been unable to work on it all weekend as I cant use ODIN (stuck on official pie for now)

Reason I might just post it is in hopes users will mess with it and potentially find a way to fully root as I havent much time lately and so far not one dev has reached out to me which is quite sad.

Regardless of what I decide though I have made it clear already that users would have to remain on rev1 firmware.. if they update then full root happens then thats on them lol.. i always stay on rev1 firmware on all mysammy devices unless theres aguaranteed root method on later revs. Good thing is we have Oreo andstable official Pie on rev1 so users currently can go back n forth on N9 at least.

Pie seems to be locked down good when it comes to security.

I see you are a dev (ive seen u on xda before).. do you have experience with exploits/rooting? If you want to be the second person to mess with it then PM me.. I'd like to confirm its working for at least one other person before posting anything to avoid potential problems down the road.

And I am terrible at actual rooting lol What I mean by that is I suck at writing root scripts.. it might be something very easy to get a temp root and I just dont know how lol

As far as ODM, unfortunately sammy implemented some security measures on protected storage partitions.. The 3 main ones being system, vendor and ODM.. whenever I mount them as RW I get insta crash.. kmsg on reboot after crash also shows theres secure write protect on those 3 partitions also so even when i force write before it crashes its reverted back as if it never happened.. Also, since initially we are on combo, you cannot use odm from combo on stock or vice versa as itll give abinary mismatch. There are 5 partitions binaries are checked on.. If I recall they are abl, boot, system, odm and vendor (recovery too essentially but can interchangeso long as you dont boot to recoveryas itll trigger binary mismatch.) This means if we try to modify them and use with stock firmware it wont work.. those 5 partitions need to be the same binary basically.. all other partitions dont matter for binary checks

I was wanting to get temp root on combo first then move from there on rooting stock firmware, one step at a time lol

So to answer your question, at this time you cannot directly edit csc for stock due to not being able to properly mount odm and due to binary mismatches (combo odm is empty lol).

Now we should have rw access to omc and carrier partitions but I havent really messed with that yet..

Anyway, you or any other devs with N960U/U1/W PM meso wecan run some tests and then ill prolly just post what i got at this point.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gandalf:
From what I gathered based on the information he provided in the OP, his root method will be usable by anyone with the rev1 bootloader. Even if you do update to first release of Pie (CSAA), you are still on the rev1 bootloader, so assuming the method does NOT work on Pie, anyone can downgrade via Odin back to Oreo since they're on the same bootloader.

That being said, it's extremely important to block OTA updates while you're still on the rev1 bootloader :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
correct.. theres aspecific combo firmware ill be uploading.. it doesnt work on other combos ive tried.. if it ends up working on other devices i think itd have to be around the same time the one im using is.. its one of the first combos that came out lol

basically will flash a specific rev1 combo, push first script, execute it with a specific adb command then push second script to mount w.e you want to run as root on boot.. once i get some confirmations ill post in dev section, its pretty easy lol i hope some pro just comes by and drops a root script for us lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] TEKHD:
If you can... go to my webpage... (pretty obvious, google if needed) and join my Telegram Channel (very easy ones you get to my page) Don't want to post links here. (my XDA inbox is useless... above Quota) Lets talk.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] paulsmcin:
Yeah I know what you mean, I've been obsessed with unlocking this pixel 3 bootloader for months now and not giving up ! Makes it hard to get to sleep thinking about it. I'lll definitely be keeping my eye on this thread also. And thank you elliwigy for your dedication and efforts.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] alvinator94:
I'd like to see this method come with the s9+ as well but I can't find a trustworthy combo firmware to test your methods.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] a63548:
Just a heads up, that it looks like the latest July update for N960U1, raised the bootloader level. :(

N960U1UES2CSF9/N960U1OYM2CSF9/N960U1UES2CSF9
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
curious to see if dev can get his wip to work on it.

if not looks like sammy got wind of it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] DAGr8:
Probly the wrong thread To ask but since you mentioned it I just checked mine is already set up to auto instal i turned auto download to late. Any way I can turn auto instal off?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
Perhaps the ADB command to disable the Software Update .apk will do the trick, but, TBH, I'm not 100% positive that would prevent an update that's already downloaded from installing.

If it were me, I'd bite the bullet & factory reset, or, even rolling back to an older release via ODIN (after the factory reset), update to the desired software & then disable the Software Update .apk.

EDIT:

On the T-Mobile version (probably the same on the VZW model as well, IDK w/100% certainty) the .apk to disable is the following:

com.wssyncmldm

So, the following ADB command should do the trick:

adb shell pm disable -0 com.wssyncmldm
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] a63548:
Like mentioned above, I would back up everything, and do a complete ODIN wipe to maybe the last Pie build before the new bootloader, but switch the modem CP with one from another build to prevent any further OTA updates to the new OTA with bootloader revision 2. By using the mixed CP file, OTAs will not work saying your up to date. Or you could always just do the exact same with the last Oreo build and CP file. Be sure to decrypt your SD card before wiping otherwise you'll lose everything.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
i dont plan on it.. im sure the same if not more protections are in place which means woukd still be stuck on combo root..

ive shifted gears to g975u and just picked up a tmo A10E to play with also
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dbennett428:
:( I miss the good 'ol days of the SGS4... before Knox and "hardware bits", forced OTA updates and carrier threats of blacklisting phones with modified root partitions. Back when rooting a phone was as simple as installing TWRP recovery through adb, and I could literally switch ROMs on the fly by booting into recovery and loading it off the SD card. Also having a removable battery.

Whatever happened to having control over a device I paid over a grand for? But I suppose that's the industry. I lost overclocking ability on my custom built Intel PC because Windows decided it was ok to flash new microcode that didn't play well with my ASUS EFI firmware on my $400 CPU, without any consent.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
what happened is you bought the wrong phone.

buy exynos or intl SD next time. What you are describing is still possible. the rest of the planet can root and install twrp.

nothing changed really.( appart from the battery part)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dbennett428:
Yea, I know. I've been with AT&T for years since I get a 25% discount on my bill that's been grandfathered in from an old job I had at a college that had a partnership with them (which saves me a lot). I was told that only the snapdragon was fully compatible with their US network, and since my last phone died and I needed a new one quick, I was kind of forced to just get it from them anyway. I'm pretty sure the International version only lacks support for like a single band they use for HSPA+ in some rural areas though. After doing some research, I found that the only place the snapdragon might not be fully compatible is Japan though... idk why they still even bother making a "World Phone" when it's literally the difference between an extra 2 bands used in a single country. I mean, it was one thing when phones only supported 2-3 bands and a single technology, but when the phone supports over 10 bands and every signal multiplexing and authentication scheme, it just seems pointless.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
Not entirely accurate lol.. as I mentioned earlier I purchased a A102U (A10e) from T-Mobile... I figured it's Exynos should be easy to unlock.. but nope.. a week later and I still can't even flash firmware lmao this is including stock and combo (both signed and unmodified).. I think they somehow blocked it.. I only ever see an instant "Odin Protocol Version Error" as soon as it tries to connect to begin flashing..I've tried every Odin and flash tool under the sun to no avail lol

I'm wondering if it's some sort of mdm type lock until it's paid or something lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Could it be like RMM on Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
I changed it.. chimera tool can set rmm and kg status... still no luck lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
well is knox enrolled? should be easy to check.

Apart from odin and heimdall, wasn't aware there was anything else. but if these tools fail then again its not so much as the phone is not rootable/BL unlockable but more the means to do so and maybe even just your particular case. it would seem that at least one user suggests that it is possible to flash to it:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=79088330&postcount=1

dont think no one is loosing any sleep over this device anyways as it is an unpopular device( for apparent reasons performancewise).subsequently as no one is actualy putting any efforts into getting custom recovery/root on it is an other point. flipping the oem unlock switch is just the tip of the iceberg and i never said that it was easy. the actual feasibility of one thing versus the general intent is an other. if the probability of someone wanting to root it and develop to it and ask sammy for sources is just not there then the device and its future concerning rootability is doomed. but does this mean that if it were not possible to unlock the bootlaoder the outcome would be anymore doomed? chances are probability wise it would still be best to stick to unlockable devices even though in this particular case it does not seem that anybody else has exhausted any efforts to find a method. i know from experiance and a bit of reading that we generally get better outcomes on devices where their bootlaoders are unlockable. i mean for arguments sakes, please dont try and use this 1 case as a basis to discredit the general fact that when you buy a device you:

-check up on its ability to have its BL unlocked

-probability of getting root and or custom recovery

i mean buying the right phone is as easy as checking these two boxes. and if you buy one that only checks one of these two criteria or in many many many cases non at all, and that months and months have passed by without real acknowledgment by the development community then I'm afraid you may infact have bought the wrong phone. i mean, anyone can be prone to this mistakes. i guess its the intent that counts in the end.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] DanHutchins:
Just to add my reasons for purchasing the snapdragon. I did the research on weather this device was rootable and found at least 4 different people claiming it was possible and even had how to videos on it including flashing twrp. It was just a good thing I didn't attempt it because they were all false. At the time of reading there were no comments since the phone had just been released a couple weeks before so I didn't get to read others input on the matter until after I had the device for a couple weeks. It was then I saw all these comments about bricked phones due to these how to videos misleading people. I completely understand where you are coming from but this day and age even research doesn't help.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sacnotsack:
Depends on where you do you research. 90% of my research comes from XDA since it's been reliable for me since the original Motorola droid. But I do understand what you're saying as well, there's a lot of misleading info out there in the internet.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] unh1nged:
Set up a monthly donation. Will increase amount when I'm back to work. Thanks bro.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
the link u posted is for a different variant lol.. that is the A105F and I have an A102U..

I havent found any solution.. i did fibd a few others scattered about tho and read this other forum where they indicated it is additional security implemented by Samsung and so far there isnt any solution lol

just my luck I grab my first exynos in like forever? And I cant even flash firmware lmao
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
yeah i know its not the same model code but technically same soc and especially as a exynos would have expected it to behave accordingly. but it just goes to show how buying North American devices is such a gamble. ive learned that lesson long ago and it pissed me off like many others. them crook carriers dont deserve our support. i dont know what the deal they have between them and Samsung.. this obsession with either locking down BL or in this case not being able to flash firmware via 3rd party? wow
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] RogueList:
Don't update to U2 if u want a chance of root or to be able downgrade I just got a update on mine n960u I disabled it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] unh1nged:
That's actually one thing I was trying to figure out. I'm on stock right now, with having done no updates as I turned them off as soon as the phone powered on the first time. I don't want to update to a point where rooting potential is lost, but I'd like to be on 9 instead of 8.1

I'm on SM-N960W

Does anyone know if any Android 9 releases are safe to update to, considering the potential solution that elliwigy is working on?

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] RogueList:
U can update to pie as long u don't update to the new security patch they release witch has bootloader 2 and doesn't allow u to downgrade at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
its been 1 year now. people should move on and keep their devices updated and safe.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Me is moved on. Me is going to use this phone until it dies then buy a non samsung unlocked phone not through ****mobile carrier. I won't care if me lost wifi calling. [emoji16]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
But a Pixel directly from Google. You can root, unlock bootloader, have latest softener on the day is released ...I have to on Samsung after my Note 8 for the same reasons. No more Samsung for me.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
That good idea. Gracias [emoji1690]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
people who buy bootloader unlockable phones buy the right phone. people who buy phones that dont have it's bootloader unlockable didn't buy the right phone. ( the initial intent is important: do you want to root or not? this has to be determined BEFORE the purchase)

so pretty straight forward.

(takes a bit of research.. kind of like buying a stick shift versus an automatic...you only get fooled once if you didn't do your homework..and if you get fooled twice than.. lol)

Now as for samsung, they makes both! but carriers don't resell both models though in north america.. been like this for a long while now, so nothing new. Just buy international! You don't need to boycott or miss out on anything. its just crazy how the misinterpretation and misinformation is keeping people from being happy with their purchases. Just boycott the carriers instead!!!

so in the end, if you are in n. america and want a samsung(and root/custom recovery) , buy a device that is NOT FROM A N. AMERICA CARRIER.(nor samsung us or samsung ca)

there should be a message pinned somewhere on xda explaining the problem with north american sold samsung phones. I belive it would be the single most helpfull peice of litterature ever offered and make it VISIBLE. year after year the same questions keep on being asked and feelings keep on getting hurt.

oh well i guess if you dont search and read before a purchase it's user error after all, even the lab rat in a test lab learns to not eat off of the red dish because for some magical reason it gives off a weird jolting feeling where as the blue dish does not.

North Americans, lets proove to the carriers we aren't animals...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] audinutt:
I made the silly mistake of assuming that an unlocked phone would allow me to root or do whatever I wanted... This used to be the case with Samsung apparently it no longer is. I'm not angry about it other than not researching it more myself.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
yeah carrier unlocked meaning not tied to be used on a particular company versus bootloader unlockable have similar terminologies but that's where the similarity ends. moreover it is never marketed as a device that has an unlockable bootloader but always as carrier unlocked when the term is used by said company. but i do get the attraction on carrier bought device as the price is put on a few years and is almost never upfront. it is tempting...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] audinutt:
The funny thing was when I was buying my phone it was cheaper to buy it unlocked than it was through the carrier and I wasn't eligible for an upgrade... Go figure
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
the cell phone situation in america is just the worst. u get screwed which every way you look at it.

acctualy here in canada its worst...costly plans.

for a respectably rated country, we have one of the most costly bills. same goes for internet and tv..etc
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
[MENTION=8132601]bober10113[/MENTION]

You're speaking to the ones who can afford the damn thing out of pocket. Those of us who can only afford a $36 a month payment are normally aware of the locked bootloader, but money is a bi$#@ ya know, we buy it and hope that a fine man like elliwigy can crack it for it us somehow...... And complain and whine a little bit along the way. [emoji23]. If not, then we swallow the bitterness of the no choice we had and move on. In the end, it is just a phone. At least that's how I've been looking at it lately. This phone didn't work for me? Give the middle finger and move on to another phone. They're all "the same".
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
X number of years on a device that is not the one you wanted versus waiting and accumulating the money and buying the correct device is prety simple. so keep your money and just dont buy the wrong device. simple.

when you buy a car or a house, do you buy the worst one just so you can get it ASAP? or do you wait till you have a good downpayment and do the responsible thing and buy the one that actualy fits your needs?

i mean no body is forcing people to buy the wrong device for their needs. they do that on their very own!.

also this problem is each and every year! like come on will there always be someone to crack the American case of locked bootloaders each time? globally people use the intl. devices much more. there is much less of a userbase and dev base to have people work on cracking the American case each and every year.. so put ure money and chances on the right horse! its the right thing to do.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
You still didn't get it, we can't afford it and going through the carrier is the best and cheapest option available. But this is my last "flagship" ever, it doesn't matter what brand it is. I'll be buying phones that are less $300 from now on.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
well i agree that someone dosent get it, that's for sure...

i can't afford it either on the spot. but i found a way to put money aside till i can afford it. like everything else in life that costs more than you can afford. i never buy anything that is not exactly what i wanted. i would never pay 1000$ for a device that didnt match my expectation( even if it was on lease). more over i would not also pay a fraction of the price for a device that also does not match my expectations either. no one forces anyone to buy the wrong device. the individuals do that on their own. i just dont get the practice of buying what doesn't fit one's needs. maybe that's why money is hard to come by in the 1st place..

hard earned money is much to precious to waste on bad decisions.

anyways seems we'll have to agree to disagree.

good luck.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Hence, I said $300 or less. I've been trying to get over not having root ever since the note 3. Hell, I even switched to iphone after the note 3 up until the note 9 which was my first android phone after the note 3. $300 or maybe even $400 are easier to save aside which is what am doing now. Well, until the note 9 dies, it'll be a while probably.