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[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Elsnakes:
It depens i supose. But the last time i participate in a zoak test ( with my ex moto z) the test last only one week.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Yeah, normally Moto's soak tests are super stable.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] VzQzZ:
We are in the window release of new update, so in the next couple days we should see if it's just March Security Patch or finally Pie. If soak test for Z2F and Z2P really started at the same time, I believe it's more likely that we get a security patch now and then the next update will finally be Pie.

Pie is a major update for our devices so I kinda doubt it will be like just an one week test.. but let's hope for the best
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mshadabalam:
motorola is damn bad company for updates.. i will never buy moto sets again as they take years for update.. Samsung is the best android for the updates i have seen.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] p3tr0s:
You mean aside from pixel devices and essential phones.. right?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
HAHAAHHA nice joke. Samsung sucks at updates, took them a LOT of time to update. Moto gave priority to the best sellers. This shows how many sales the Z2 Force and Z2 Play had compared to the X4 wich got updated in November to Android Pie.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] allrightlite:
I have a old moto g from nov 2013. It's a over 5 years old phone which is on pie, if you want. I have it on 7.1.2 with security patch from 5.04.2019. And that's fast without gapps, use F-Droid. Have set up just for fun to test. Very cool. So, motorola is a very good phone producer. You can use this phone still after 5 years. And Z2 Force will never die here. It will keep alive with great roms and if you do so moto is great. But yes, stock on moto is often not so great :o

I'm really excited now what we get. Just march security patch or the Pie update. It's important that the update comes to us, important for los 16, too.

So, let's hope that it will roll out in few weeks :o
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] VzQzZ:
April is coming to an end and Moto releases an update.. Is it Pie? No! Oh at least we got March security patch right? NO!

A f*cking February patch. Go to hell, Moto.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] allrightlite:
That's crazy. Maybe it's not working yet, so they can't release it. Maybe in two months. Let's pray.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mshadabalam:
they will never release.. if they wanted, they could have done it in 2018..
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Maybe soak wasn't stable enough...
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Elsnakes:
My god! Very disappointed with Moto, even mid-range phones already updated to Pie and we still waiting.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] alexcheveau:
Wtf man, stop defending this shi#t company already
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Elpidio:
reality is hard to swallow but lets face it, it's never going to come, last Motorola phone I'll ever buy
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] allrightlite:
Yeah, but don't forget that we have at least official los16 :o That has not every phone. That really good that we have this at least.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] HKSpeed:
LG is just as slow as Moto. I wonder which of my phones (Moto Z2 Force or LG V30) will get Pie first. Both were premium Snapdragon 835 phones released in 2017.

Back when I had a Galaxy S4, Samsung was the slowest to update. Back then LG and Moto were the quickest. Completely different now.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Uzephi:
I bet it is Moto trying to get Pie released without VNDK treble for our device. Which is stupid especially since DU official AND LOS are both VNDK compliant just proving we can have treble...

If they just released pie with treble I am sure they wouldn't have the plethora of bugs they are getting...
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] VzQzZ:
Definitely. I believe we'll get a pretty barebone and trash Pie.. right now my biggest hope is that it will help Custom ROMS work better, even trough I'm still kinda afraid of messing with all that A/B partions and sh*it
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] allrightlite:
Yes, it will help them in some parts. For example L1 is broken now and with the pie blobs it is fixable. Now just L3 is really working. With official pie all gets heroes status :cool: So it's really important, that Pie rolling out in few weeks. We need this all :rolleyes:
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Passerati:
Motorola is really late for the Z² Force. The device has (still) the status: "Android Business Recommended", but with the current patch level 01/2019 the criteria are no longer valid. Google should revoke the device's status. Ridiculous! Our device is the only Motorola device with this status not yet got Android 9. Instead a February patch in late April? This is at the earliest beginning of May with us in Europe. The Z² Play does not have this status, but the February patch has been longer. Wrong world.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Yeah, they ****ed up. They don't deserve that status on the Z2 Force.

Unfortunately sales say everything. This phone didn't sell well. Might have been for the low mah of the battery, for the greediness of not putting a 1$ screen protector on that ShatterShield to prevent it from small scratches. Who knows, but people didn't buy it even though it is a freaking BEAST.

Hopefully they will get their **** together and release it sooner than later. They don't realize that this will affect their sales on the long run. Nowadays everyone is listening to reviewers on YouTube and if they say don't buy this because they suck at updates, people won't buy it. OnePlus got big because of fast updates not because of the chipset. When people bought the Z Play like crazy it wasn't because of the chipset. It was because of the good balance between battery, price, speed, features and updates. That phone was a hit, online and offline.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] allrightlite:
Maybe they want have Z2 Play and Z2 Force at the same patch level before switch to Pie. It's maybe more easy, because hardware (treble, driver) and AOSP two different things at developement? Don't know, but there must be any reason why it's not march patch.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
not to mention that they might have a little redemption for their flailing reputation. Like many others, the pixel 3a is looking better and better for my next move.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] VzQzZ:
It's definitely strange why they released just a old February patch. We all know Z series is updated 2 months. Last update was January patch and it was released later than usual, already in mid-february, when usually it should be released mid-january.

Maybe Pie will arrive before that 2 months cycle, probably with March or April patch, and Moto released that older patch just to stick with the Android Business program requirements.

I don't know if there really is a soak test for Z2F rolling out already ( I've seen some people getting it on Z2P, but nothing on Force ), but I've asked Moto on Twitter about the update and they said that the final phase of testing is ending soon..

One thing is almost certain for me: Pie can only be coming within this two months. Maybe it will come sooner, maybe a bit later, but very likely within that 2 months period
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
While it's not anyone's favorite statement, the reality is we'll get it when we get it. It's not like moto hasn't lagged on an update before, I remember back on my old Atrix 2 we waited almost 2 quarters longer than their scheduled release for ICS. Personally, I'm just hoping that they fix the bugs that have been persistent since day one. An example would be random reboots. My phone on stock will randomly reboot, but if I use a custom kernel or run a rom the problem is solved. That's not hardware, it's software. Thanks to our devs around here I have a stable phone that has been running pie for months now. (Thank you all btw) I just want moto to provide that same stability and experience for their own product. I really don't care about pie for the sake of pie, just for the improvement it'll bring our customs. That's my 2 cents.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
I never had the problem you mentioned. Maybe it really is hardware but gets triggered by their stock kernel. Who knows.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
It is possible that it's hardware, I just know that custom kernels seem to either handle the issue or allows more tolerance and I haven't had any reboots since using a custom setup. I would be curious to see if stock pie does the same, but so far none of the oreo updates have fixed it.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] waj1234:
Not got a single issue with mine apart from the shatter shield lifting. I have removed it now so it looks good again.

Only thing I want from an update is native WiFi calling.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] wrenhal:
I understand you frustration, but I've gone over 9 days and no reboots. Only rebooted because I do it periodically just to start fresh. I'm on at&t, so I can only think it is hardware limited to a different version.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Rukbat:
The "A/B partitions sh*it" is something Google took 20 yer to implement. (I know, Android is still less than 11 years old.) We did the same thing back in 1998 (and I doubt no one had done it before) - update one partition and, if there were no problems, update the second one. If there's a problem, just stop and leave the user on the older version for a day. If the second partition doesn't work, leave the user on the first partition (with the update) until the next update.

Do you remember hearing about bricked phones because the update came when the owner was asleep, and the battery died in the middle of the update? No more. It's not something to fear, it's something to be glad about. (unfortunately, AT&T still keeps the bootloader locked, and no one's found a way around it, so this will never be my daily driver, but it's still a good phone.)

The change from Oreo to Pie (and then to Q) is about as big as the change from Nougat to Oreo, so be ready to WTF a lot. (And yes, it's going to come with tons of bloat, unless you bought one unbranded.)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] VzQzZ:
Yes, my friend. I didn't mean to say it's a bad thing, just that it brings some changes on how to customize our phones and that I'm not comfortable/don't have the proper knowledge to mess with it yet.

I agree that it's a great thing and improves security and stability, but everything has its pros and cons, and the cons to me is that make somethings harder.

Being a fully stock user atm, it's great to have that extra layer of protection.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Rukbat:
Didn't mean to step on toes, VzQzZ - I guess I just read "I don't know about this stuff" into "kinda afraid" - my bad.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] VzQzZ:
Don't worry bud, all good! ;)

Despite being disappointed with the eternity that is taking Moto to release Pie ( and probably without Treble.. ) I'm pretty much satisfied with the stock experience. The only thing that bothers me is that sometimes de gesture navigation stop working and is only fixed by rebooting. The other known bugs such as Bluetooth doesn't affect me since I don't use anything with that connection..

By the time I start to think about messing with Custom ROMs due to the lack of Moto support, I guess it will be already time to move to a modern device. ( Honestly I'm pretty tired and sick of Z2F design, seems so old and primitive.. but still a beast in performance hahaha )
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] alexwbaule:
SOAK Test Has Begun

SOAK Test has begun !
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] wizard-dima:
Have you got the dough pie yet?

Can I have a couple of screenshots in private messages?)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] alexwbaule:
I dont have it yet. I just know that has started.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Taime:
moto z2 force security patch

today i receive security patch update ..

moto z2 force
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Elpidio:
security patch
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Uzephi:
ODXS is still Oreo
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Taime:
waiting ?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] alexwbaule:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z-Force/We-need-you-for-the-MFN/td-p/3774044
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Seems we're getting the Z4 Force with Moto Mods this year ?.

They are also bringing more Moto Mods.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Uzephi:
Seeing Lenovo/Motorola rap sheet, it won't get much in software upgrades, just security patches. At least that model would be Treble...
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] carlos way:
Oh no...

Waiting for pie... And Motorola send security patch :(
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] gyarados025:
Not even a security patch on retin. Moto Z recieved Android 8 earlier than Pie on this ?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
I hope this delay is to add support to the upcoming Moto Mods or else Motorola really needs to change their game with updates... Currently using my Z3 Play on Pie and runs nice, but I really want to use my Z2 Force as my daily driver as it's way faster.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] apocalypse_bg:
I'm guessing, but from the looks of it, the only mod every coming out would be the 5G one for Verizon in the states (which seems kind of stupid you'll have one Snapdragon 855 in the phone and another one in the Mod, just to run the modem). To support new mods, you don't need to modify the OS - the mods have their own firmware on themselves and just an APK (if necessary).

So it's going to be a dissapoitnment for mod lovers as ourselves.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Well according to that spec leak, we're going to get a couple of new mods, not only the 5G.

I'm going to upgrade to the Z4 Force anyway but meanwhile I want to experience Pie on this beast.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] alexcheveau:
After all this **** support from Motorola, you are really going to continue with Z4F ?

Omg
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Yes because the phone has been great except for the long wait for this last update. And the Z4 Force is going to be a beast for 699$. I want to keep my Moto Mods for as long as possible too.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] laofan:
If I switch phone, then I will also buy another Z4F. The unbreakable screen and battery life is worth the money for me.

Personally I don't mind slow updates. Android 8 already has everything I need. Future updates are more cosmetic related, not performance related. I could live with it
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] huatz84:
Still no news for Z2 Force. Z2 Play will get it first. :(
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Probably, it sold a lot more
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] huatz84:
If it sold a lot more,then Moto should update G5s+ to Pie.

Z2 Force was a flagship so it has to get a lot of attention.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Yeah but it's well known that their policy for the G series is only one major Android update.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] huatz84:
My old Moto G got two major updates. Since Lenovo took over, Moto will never be the same.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
The Moto G3 took 2 updates and it was made by Lenovo, same for Moto G4.

Look, thing is Motorola was going bankrupt even after Google took over, now under Lenovo they are making profit finally since 2011. What gives if you have to wait a little longer for the app if you can have your favorite brand around, alive and kicking. They will probably give better support once the company reaches its peak. For example this year we'll have the RAZR back and more Android One devices with better support.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] huatz84:
Moto have left my country (Indonesia). Only Thailand the last country standing in southeast Asia which sell Moto phones. I've been using Moto phones since 2002 (Moto C350). Have seen a lot of ups and downs in their journey. I just hope they still keep their commitment to provide quick software updates just like they used to be. It's been 3 months they don't give update to Z2 Force. That's really unacceptable. At least,a minor security update should be enough.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
This could be Moto, but we have to get our supply off the streetz lol.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] manuap:
what is this?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Uzephi:
DU
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
DU's latest official w/ Uzephi's Tachyon kernel.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] huatz84:
I need a Motomod support. That's why I have to skip custom ROMs. I used to enjoy custom ROMs on my previous Moto phones.

Btw,just got a february security patch in mid-May. That's so late. :laugh:
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] wrenhal:
Are you running on an AT&T version or is it Verizon. Because I'm AT&T and I still haven't gotten that February patch. I'm not sure if anybody has.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] HKSpeed:
Last week I installed the February patch using LMSA (instructions below). I'm using the AT&T version on T-Mobile.

https://xdaforums.com/z2-force/help/how-to-manually-update-att-motorola-z2-t3879143
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] wrenhal:
Interesting. I checked last week and got nothing. I got my phone earlier this year and used the method in that thread to get OREO. Anyway, I plug in my phone today and I have the patch.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shandar:
Was wondering if anyone knows of a program that can download files based on a schedule? Would love if my phone automatically downloaded the latest BBC Video summary 7am every morning (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/5063222.stm) so I can watch it on the bus. The file is only ~1mb, but it'd be great if the phone could download it while im at home and connected to my wifi.

Added bonus if it can store the file on the storage card and yet another bonus if it works on Smartphones (giving up my TyTN after a long and faithful service).

Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ather:
The file can be downloaded easily..and can also be stored on a storage card..but i dnt know how to program it to download at 7 AM

if u can manually run it..or assign it to a scheduler..if u can live with that i will program it for you

Edit :..can u direct-link the file.also does it changes its name every day or not

Edit 2: i think this is the direct link http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/summaries/news/bb/video/news_bb.asx
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] craftyb:
Sounds like a good idea. Could you use RunEveryday to schedule the task?

The above .asx file points to mms://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/news/n5ctrl/summaries/news/bb/video/hc_news_latest_bb.wmv

Now we just need something to connect to your wi-fi network and download the file. Could MortScript do this?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ather:
i can program it in C#...it will download the file and save it in the Storage Card/news/ folder
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] RandomDelta:
Reserved
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Restian Rony:
Can this for 4.15?

How about gaming?

Its good or nah?
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] RandomDelta:
Every Version of kernel is different from each other and features pop up and disappear with updates. So certain customizations mentioned in this guide may not be available in a different kernel version. Also, optimum values tend to differ from kernel version to version. So yeah, it'll work in v4.15 but you might not get the best results.

It's good for gaming coz you get a 20% performance boost over stock. You can improve performance further by changing CPU and GPU governers to Performance, increasing minimum CPU and GPU speed, increasing minimum number of big cores online and increasing the temperature limits but it will adversely affect your thermals and battery life.
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Restian Rony:
Wow thanks mate

Love u ?
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] RandomDelta:
Update

V1.1 now available.

Will release performance biased mod shortly. Hope you all like it :)
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] danyel980:
I can not find the core control setting screen (the one attached)

Why not share the .json profile file directly?
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] RandomDelta:
Are you on Overload kernel v4.14. Please ensure that you are. Even if I share the Json file, that setting won't be applied because that setting doesn't exist for the kernel you are on. So it's pointless. Plus to apply the Json file, you need to have the pro version of Kernel Adiutor , which most of us don't. If you want the Json file, it's linked below.

It's the v1.1 Balanced profile
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] danyel980:
yes, I'm overloaded 4.14 but I can not find the screen in question.

thanks for the .json file, even if you say in effect it does not make much sense unless you can apply the whole configuration. I would like to understand why I do not find the setting, however
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] RandomDelta:
Maybe there was some error during the flashing process. You should redownload the kernel And flash it again. It should solve the issue.
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] RandomDelta:
Custom settings for Overload Kernel v4.19 has been released
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] RandomDelta:
Settings for v4.20 are the same as for v4.19. So I'm not reposting.

Settings for v4.21 will be released soon.
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] danyel980:
Thanks for the great work
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] gueroldguevs:
Waiting for v21 TIA
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] RandomDelta:
TruWhite MOD v1.3 for overload kernel v4.21 has been released!

I will not be releasing performance biased mod because in my opinion the battery trade off associated is not worth the tiny performance gain.
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] MpS005:
After downloading and flashing Ol 4.21, it is showing 4.20 of 17th Feb.....:confused::mad: What to do?
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] RandomDelta:
Don't worry . You are on v4.21. Renjian forgot to update the build release key description.
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] MpS005:
but my last option for max frequencies for big cpu is 1478mhz. There's no 1800mhz or around it
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] RandomDelta:
It's for little CPU. You might be confused. Little CPU max out at 1478mhz in v4.21. Send screenshots . I might be able to help
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] MpS005:
I sorted out. It was showing wrong info. It was showing 1478mhz in big and 1843mhz in small. LOL. I force stopped app and rebooted phone. Then, it was correct.....Wait for results now:fingers-crossed:
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] MpS005:
the CPU voltage settings are changing automatically. Is this normal?
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Snehil_DPS_6l:
Same for me please reply sir
[LeEco Le 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] gueroldguevs:
Overload v4.22 out

I just have suggestions use "Smartpack Kernel Manager" its just same as kernel auditor but more features..

Waiting Mod for v4.22 TIA:good: