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[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
I guess your factory unit either already does have such an override harness, or, (and this might be the 3rd option ;)): you have a CAN bus. The orange wire (on the Joyings) is also connected to the CAN bus and also the reverse signal can be a CAN bus signal.

So, I assume that when you push your dashboard button either a 12V signal is put on the reverse wire via an override, or a signal is put on the CAN bus and the Joying is picking this up via the CANbus.

(Not sure here. Just giving options)
[FYT Android Head Units] Konradziontko85:
Hi, again

I'm using my radio for about a week now, after flashing it with the Official Joying ROM and everything seems to work perfect.

I would do one more thing with it. From the very beginnig the radio doesn't have any DRM Certificates, so I cannot have any HQ Video Streaming working on it. My TV Service Provider is offering Internet VOD and Live TV Streaming over internet, which I got included in my TV Plan, there is an app for that, but because of DRM Certs are missing, I cannot use it.

Do You know any way of adding them to the system, any way to install them?

I'll be really greatfull to someone for giving me a hand with that.
[FYT Android Head Units] Pewpewt:
Does anyone know the RMS output of the preamp?

Also, does this not have an IPS screen?
[FYT Android Head Units] rigattoni:
What??? :confused:
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
Pre-out voltage: 2.0 V

and yes, it is an IPS screen..
[FYT Android Head Units] Konradziontko85:
Is there anyone, who can help me solve that?
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
DRM issue can be solved acc. to below guide but it requires a bit of technical knowledge. You can ask Joying to add it but i do not think so that they take this request serious :)

https://source.android.com/devices/drm
[FYT Android Head Units] rackxp:
Hey Guys,

The Zlink resolution is very large. Is there a way I can make it smaller? On my old headhunt the icons were more spaced out and you could see more of the maps? I have the 1280x720 head unit.
[FYT Android Head Units] Il_Padrino:
Hello, can you please explain me step by step or make a video or something how do I use the Bluetooth patch? I used to had a different unit and my Hondash was compatible, now with the Joying it's not. Thank you.
[FYT Android Head Units] A-BlacK_MambA-4:
Bluetooth Ktuner OBDII

Hey guys so I want to report that the Bluetooth fix (changing Bluetooth type from 1 to 0) page 161 of this thread fixed my issue of not being able to connect to my Ktuner OBDII. I can now connect to it and use the TunerView app with it. However, after the change now the Zlink CarPlay/Android Auto app doesn’t work. I can confirm that changing the bluetoothtype back to 1 fixes the issue. So now it appears Joying has also done something with the configuration of the Zlink app to force it to only work with bluetoothtype 1. Any ideas what that could be? For the time being I flipped back to stock config so I can use CarPlay.

My head unit is the latest Intel SC9853i 4gb 64gb model. I can get the actual model number later.
[FYT Android Head Units] INDYTR6:
New Joying 8.1, Where to start?

Hi, Just got a new Joying 8.1 headunit. Never used Android before and am a bit lost. I installed it in a '74 Triumph TR6 (fits very nicely). Last night got everything working connected to JL audio 5 channel amp. sounds great.

This morning when awaking from sleep I imeadiatly got a error about a missing .dll,

I ended up deleting the Zlink app and it went away.

Now how do I get ZLink back?

Secondly, what recommendations to make this unit easier to use?
[FYT Android Head Units] rigattoni:
For what reason do you need to mirror your phone (btw.... which phone)?

All you can do by mirroring can be done on the Android radio much easier without having the phone connected. (just BT and tethering would be needed to get internet on the radio)
[FYT Android Head Units] INDYTR6:
I liked Mirroring mostly because of familiarity with Carplay (Iphone XR). I know nothing about android at this point but would like to learn to better use this unit. Where and how would I get the Zlink app back?

What apps are easy to use for car, phone, waze, and music control listening?
[FYT Android Head Units] Frogbone:
I installed this unit in my motorcycle and I am using a 6 button SWC unit. It has Vol+, Vol-, Next, Previous, Mute and SRC

I mapped the buttons and they seem to work properly.

However, the SRC button would go between Dialer, Radio, Phone Dialer, BT and Music Player.

When I ride my bike I really only use Radio, BT ( with phone) , Navigation ( Google Maps) and Poweramp. I know that Poweramp and Google Maps are applications vs. the other items are part of the Head Unit.

Is there a way to use the SRC button to cycle through all of them?

I'd like to be able to listen to Poweramp, switch to maps, switch to Radio and back. without having to touch the head unit ( safety concern on the bike)
[FYT Android Head Units] A-BlacK_MambA-4:
On my unit the Zlink apk is in a folder labeled OEM. Go into the file manager app on the head unit and Once in the app on the left look for the OEM folder. In there should be the Zlink app. Just click on it to install.
[FYT Android Head Units] Fil0z:
Hi, for years I'm searching for a tablet-like device to install on my bmw 1 series e81 and now reading this thread I discover this joying.. Can I install in my car? It's plug & play like? I need to install something else? And finally it's multilanguage?

Thanks
[FYT Android Head Units] blinger:
Yeah it works for my BMW E87. I got the 9inch display and requested the BMW E90 canbus version from joying.

Steering wheel buttons, doors and parking radar works, even the dynamic reverse lines move with the steering wheel. The only thing is you have to tap a constant power source from the fuse box.

Downside is you lose the BMW gong chime (replaced with the cheap sounding joying buzzer) and the joying parking sensor buzzer never goes to a solid buzz at closest distance.
[FYT Android Head Units] Fil0z:
Oh thanks a lot for your feedback

Can I ask you some photos of your installation and which model do you have? And where can I find "constant power source" you speaking of?
[FYT Android Head Units] blinger:
I got a pre facelift 130i with no idrive. Being a pre facelift e87, it's got the older smaller dash compared to your e81, so I could only fit the 1din joying and the screen sticking out... Not ideal but your dash should be able to fit a 7" screen

I tapped the door lock fuse for constant power (yellow wire in the joying harness). The fuse positions differ between years and models in the 1 series so check the fuse diagram for your car.
[FYT Android Head Units] Fil0z:
Yes mine E81 it comes from 2008, at this moment I'm at this condition (see photo, I don't have idrive.. Only businnes original stereo)

So theorically I can install something like this, right?

https://youtu.be/dapUxN6fOmQ
[FYT Android Head Units] blinger:
I don't think that e90 unit will fit the e81/e82 as is. Might be able to with some modifications.
[FYT Android Head Units] blinger:
I did the bt mod and zlink works fine. I have the 4gb 32gb model though.

Bt mod got my vgate obd adapter working and a mouse. I can't get bt keyboards working. Anyone tried a bt gamepad?
[FYT Android Head Units] Fil0z:
Yeah, now joying answer to me via mail.

They said that perfect fit radio for me its 1 din ones.. They gave me a link to choose one from their catalog..

I found this one, I need to check better the measures but it seams fit and work great

https://www.joyingauto.eu/joying-10...een-head-unit-android-8-1-gps-navigation.html

What do you think about?
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
joying=regret..try and see it..dasaita would be a painless choice, but if you want to go down that route then i would suggest hd screen with touch buttons for better convenience...
[FYT Android Head Units] Guyzer73:
[MENTION=2287433]julien_blanche[/MENTION],

Finally made some headway on the Range Rover Sport build as we discussed way back when...

Still need to finish off the final fit and smooth it out before painting, but, overall pretty happy with the overall look and build.

What you reckon?
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
It seems pretty nice and looks oem, have you figured out steering wheel to get it work ? Maybe you can make some transition effect from corner of the screen to the dashboard with fiberglass or carbon fiber ?

I love 10.25" screen though with only one major downside is lack of soft touch buttons ..
[FYT Android Head Units] Fil0z:
Why you say that?

Obviously I want to buy the 1280x720p screen touch..
[FYT Android Head Units] blinger:
The 10inch universal will fit in the 1din slot but it will fit like how my one is fitted (screen sticking out of the dash and possibly blocking part of the air vent).
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Dasaita is qualitatively slightly better and slightly more expensive, but all those Chinese units have some quircks.

If you read the MTCD forums, you will see that Dasaita has also audio and bluetooth quircks for the few users that post about it.

Note that only the users that have issues OR are interested in tweaking, come at this forum. And then the few who come here for buying advice. I never give buying advice. I think that users having experience with multiple brand units can give advice. I only have experience with Joying: how can I advice on other units? That's also why I do not advice Dasaita over Joying, or the other way round, or any other brand.

There might be 100.000's of users being completely happy with their Joying, Dasaita, Xtrons, Seicane, Zhan, Witson, Atoto, etc. etc.

The only advice I can give is: Buy one of the big brands. Support is non-existent for brandless models.

And as side note: I am completely happy with my Joying. Google Voice for voice calls doesn't work on all units, incl. mine, but I hardly ever make calls in the car, so I don't bother. That is one of the quircks of the Joying. Bluetooth is cripled on the Joyings, but it is as well on 90% of all other units.

If voice calls are of utmost importance to you: don't buy a Joying.

For some of the latest Dasaitas I did see audio issues. But again: is that 3 users out of 10.000 happy users?
[FYT Android Head Units] mclaudio:
I would buy teys unit

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[FYT Android Head Units] rigattoni:
Additional:

If you have a look at the Pioneer and Kenwood and other high end aftermarket units forum you will see that even the high end units are not without audio issues, update issues, messy Bluetooth as you can find on Chinese cheap Android units.

With Android you have at least a chance to get some issues fixed with some software changes. On those high-end units you even have no chance to do anything, not even change a crap navigation software or maps.

Just now I have 4 units. 2 Pumpkin (made by Klyde), 1x PX5-MTCE, 1x PX5-CSN2 a no name 6.5" PX3-MTCD and a Joying SC9853i. A new Klyde PX6-CSN2 unit is on it´s way to Germany now.

Each unit has it´s pros and cons and other than the screen sizes 7-10.2" I would never be able to decide which would be the best.

What I can say is, that the support from Klyde, Pumpkin and Joying are remarkable good. If you know the intercultural differences and respect these differences, you get everything.
[FYT Android Head Units] Guyzer73:
I was considering it, and did some mock-ups. One similar to your sketch, another similar to the BMW units with it extending to the instrument binnacle/ display. However, I didn't like the optics so chose this route for the moment. However, I may play around with the idea again in the future once I've completed this.

Regards the SWC, I've currently got the Source button working as 'Home' and volume, skip and phone working as they should. However, I might try and use FYT Hotkey to change the functionality contingent to other ideas panning out. Basically, need to get the MOST adapter working and then using the default Nav feature for Headunit Reloaded/ Android Auto and then the SWC for Radio (TuneIn), Music (Google Music), Telephone (Joying BT), Nav (Headunit reloaded/ Android Auto) and Movie (Home - as Car Launcher is an app in itself). Only thing I haven't got working is the OEM 'Voice' switch to the left of the steering wheel, and don't think I will.

That should be more than sufficient for my needs.

I'll keep you informed on the SWC issue.

Cheers
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
So you have 4 cars and just bought a fifth one? For which you need the Klyde? Wow! ;)
[FYT Android Head Units] rigattoni:
To be honest... I only have one car and I flip the units from time to time. Takes 5 min to switch.

And yes, seems that I am more or less a bit crazy. It´s not that I would sell them... :angel:

One unit is always in my car and one is mounted on my bench setup. There the units are kept updated because I don´t want to do it sitting in my car.
[FYT Android Head Units] Fil0z:
Thanks for this huge explanation

I'm going to buying a 10.1" 1280x720p joying android 8.1 sc9853i
[FYT Android Head Units] rflores2323:
So I added the modded Bluetooth file and got my Bluetooth enabled on my joying HU to find other devices other than the joying default devices.

The config.txt contains the value "sys.fyt.bluetooth_type=0".

I installed "Bluetooth Pair" from Waylon Huang aswell.

It's working as I connected by OBDII and RGB lights and it scans and finds a bunch of other Bluetooth devices.

Problem below with a device pairing...

I am trying to hook up a satechi media button. It does find the device however when trying to pair it ask for a code to pair.

How can I pair this?

I hooked up a USB keyboard to joying unit and it works as I can type in Gmail but when I input the pairing code it doesn't take it and shows failed to connect.

See video.

https://youtu.be/nire2YyyaBg
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
I assume you used the zip which I added to post #1611

You could try to add another line to that config.txt

persist.service.bdroid.ssp=true

zip it again and flash again. And then, after reboot, try again to pair.

This line (normally) forces a paring popup to appear.
[FYT Android Head Units] rflores2323:
yes I used your file. The Bluetooth pairing is working. I paired two other devices and it searches and finds other blueooth devices... The problem I am having is this specific media button device is asking for a pairing code and I can't input the code. I tried to hook up a USB keyboard and it didn't take the input numbers.
[FYT Android Head Units] tangcla:
Is there an alternative Bluetooth music app anyone can recommend that's more feature rich?
[FYT Android Head Units] rflores2323:
So I added this line to config file and flashed unit. Flashed unit was successful.

It still did not work/pair as when I try to pair it asked me for a pairing code and gives me the numbers to pair with. Then shows failed to communicate....

Any other suggestions?
[FYT Android Head Units] rackxp:
Hey Guys,

How can I change the behaviour of the steering wheel controls? The hang up button opens the bluetooth app instead of hanging up the call in Zlink
[FYT Android Head Units] rflores2323:
Check if this video can help you to remap the buttons.

https://youtu.be/FXFQrcAGoM4
[FYT Android Head Units] rackxp:
Hey Mate,

I need the steering wheel control buttons mapped.
[FYT Android Head Units] rflores2323:
Take a look at this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbIRyDGwtj0

Go into settings and steering wheel controls, press button you want to assign on HU and then on SwC you want to associate with that soft button. When accepted you go to next button. Then save.
[FYT Android Head Units] rackxp:
They are mapped. I need to change the default applications that they are mapped to. EG. The call button opens the bluetooth application. I need to stop this behaviour.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Do you have a CANbus? If so, there is no standard way of remapping buttons as it is arranged by the CANbus.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Actually a question for @rigattoni as he is the proud owner of 4 units (or 5 already?) of several brands.

Like mentioned earlier: All of these Chinese units have their strengths and weaknesses. And I don't mean how easy they can be modded. 99% of users will simply use the factory delivered model without modding/rooting: That his how they should be used and how they should show their strengths/weaknesses. Just like you don't start modding a Smart-TV or phone (in general), you shouldn't have to with a head unit either.

For me the strength of the Joying is its deep-sleep mode and wake-up in ~2 seconds. It's weakness is for me the voice controlled bluetooth calling, and bluetooth paring in general (which I fortunately both do not need apart from my phone). For the rest it simply does what it has to do, like 99% of all other units (I expect).

Edit: I also think the WiFi on these Joying sc9853i units is terrible, but I see issues also in other units.

I read on multiple places that (almost) all MTCD/E units, as of PX5 (or so), also support the deep sleep/quick start up function. Is that true?

What can you say about voice calling and bluetooth (pairing) in general for all your units?

And other important things I might not even know to ask, because I am unfamiliar with it.
[FYT Android Head Units] marcus82:
it would be nice to remap also topbar buttons

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[FYT Android Head Units] rigattoni:
Youre right... the new 12.1" unit from Klyde (PX6 with CSN2) will be packed in China within the next days... :D

Deep Sleep mode (1-2sec boot time) is available on all PX5 from known supplier.... afaik. All my units with PX5 have this on board, but:

They are not able to keep apps open (if you don´t install a custom ROM)... they are all killed.

I use Tasker to fix this

The PX5 units can be used by voice and I never had problems to initiate calls by voice. It needs some knowledge and the right tools, but it works perfect.

The newer CSN2 units (PX5 with a new MCU) can be used completely by voice, as open apps, sending mails, SMS...

BT connection to OBD and phone is easy if you choose the correct order in connection... but I never had issues with my SC9853i too.

... about WiFi: These units from Pumpkin, have separate WiFi antennas, the newer ones have 2 of them. DL rate is "OKAY" as visible in the attached SC.
[FYT Android Head Units] rflores2323:
So I have been researching and it seems that there is no solution to get the satechi media button to work with this head unit. That sucks [emoji3525]

The head unit Bluetooth does show button (after modified config) but it asks for a specific pairing code and there is no way to input the code to pair.
[FYT Android Head Units] tangcla:
Bump. I think this question got missed.
[FYT Android Head Units] rackxp:
No I'm using the key 1 and key 2 wires.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
I don't think it got missed. I think nobody knows if there is a better app.

The Joyings have only one Bluetooth app that combines several functions: pairing (if it works), music (A2DP) and phone calls, via the several intents. All Bluetooth functionality is going via the BT app. On your phone it is separated in the BT network stack. The apps that use that do that via the BT APIs (what we call the application framework).

Well, not so on the Joyings (and I actually think it is the same on the MTCD/E and CSN2 units as well).

That also means that the Joying BT app can't simply be replaced with some other BT app. The replacement needs to be able to do the exact same things (and more because that is what you want).
[FYT Android Head Units] thierry34:
Hello, I live in France, I am confined to my home because of the Covid 19. I use my car very rarely. my battery is new, i installed it 15 days ago; after 9 days, I could not start my car because empty battery. the unit joying was in standby mode. Did you have this problem ? Do you think 9 days isn't that short? suddenly, I removed the stanby mode of the car radio, I will check how long the battery holds before it'll be emty again.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Canbus? Which brand car? Reversed Constant and ACC wire?

You should give us some more background. These 3 options call be valid (and even at the same time).

And yes, I had it too with my Skoda Octavia where switch off of brand units is done via the CANbus (just like for VW, Audi and Seat) and the VAG concern is not always correct with Contant-12V and ACC wire, as they are using the CANbus anyway. But that part is not understood by the CANbus controllers from the Chinese manufacturers.
[FYT Android Head Units] gal3_hun:
Hi,

I have a Chinese unit called AWESAFE PX9.

Specification:

aliexpress.com/item/33047135261.html

Mine is 32+2GB Wifi+4G DSP+RDS

Is this a FYT and can I root it? Or at least is it possible to replace the original radio app with Joying app? Because RDS is not working in my unit. There is no RDS switch in settings and TA, AF, PTY buttons are inactive.

I am a new member here and I don't know how to attach file so I uploaded my HWget_info archive to my Google drive:

drive.google.com/open?id=1G2QNI6-BGJHFg_43lDCe7oX469DjZXey

Please help me!
[FYT Android Head Units] yzf750:
Yep, I have a pickup truck with a large capacity battery because it has auto start/stop also. If I leave the joying unit in fastboot mode it will kill the battery in less then 2 weeks of sitting. Happened many times even with a new battery after the first hit 3 years old. I now leave mine so fast boot is off and I have to wait 20 seconds or so when I start it up. I know it was drawing a lot because my auto stop/start mode in my truck needs a full battery charge to work it it was taking 20 miles of driving each day to get it to activate again when I was using the fast boot mode and the truck only sat overnight.

---------- Post added at 06:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:15 PM ----------

There is many bluetooth music apps. I never use the default one. My favorite is Jet audio due to the plugins it offers that add more to the stock dsp ones in the Joying unit. It works flawless on my joying with bluetooth.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
You still don't give the information I asked for :) Edit: sorry, I thought I responded to [MENTION=3558292]thierry34[/MENTION]

I think that the 12V connections are not entirely correct. The ACC+ wire wich should switch off is most probably also a 12V constant wire. Therefore Android sleeps but the hardware in your unit doesn't. Linked pdf is something I wrote in 2016 for my Skoda Octavia for my Joying Sofia 3GR. It might be useful for you as well, and for [MENTION=3558292]thierry34[/MENTION].

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4J3kKZoV78-Wk1CdVVwVlJmd0E

Actually the same works for non-CANbus units where the ACC wire is actually also a 12V constant wire.

---------- Post added at 02:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:35 PM ----------

What do you mean here?

Do you mean you use JET audio on your phone to connect to your head unit? Which is something many users do with whatever app of choice on their phone to the BT app on the unit.

Or do you use Jet audio on your head unit itself, which works as BT bridge for something that plays on your phone, maybe also Jet audio, and BT streams to your head unit?
[FYT Android Head Units] thierry34:
i have a seat leon car and i have the box canbus with my joying unit. i'm sure that the red wire of car is acc and yellow car is constant positive. (i created the red wire (acc) when i installed my alarm).

do you tell there is an error by joying with their box canbus or the error is with the seat cable alimentation (acc and constant ) ?

i readed your document. when i insert my key and turn it, unit turn on . ok . when i turn off the car (key car is always in the neiman) unit is always on. when i remove key car of the neiman, 2 seconds laters , screen is black . i have dsp on the remote wire (blue wire) . when i remove key car, screen unit is black after 2 seconds, and dsp turn off 2 or 3 minutes later. (sometimes more) .