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[FYT Android Head Units] edit:
Haha, you really had to ask !

I guess you don't trust me much :)
[FYT Android Head Units] Busk07:
I also asked their support for rooting possibilities & whether they have any sdk or info to develop apps for the head units. Obviously not, but I thought I'd give it a try.

EDIT: I'm kind of doubting about selling this unit again & getting a PX5 one instead...
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
If you want to be able to "simply" alter/modify the new Intel Airmont you have no luck, at least not at this moment.

If you look for a custom rom for the PX5 FYT unit: That is not going to come I'm afraid. Working on a TWRP recovery image is simply too tricky and complex, to let your one and only unit get hard-bricked, next to be willing to spend that huge amount of time on it. Of course these FYT PX5 units can be modified by rooting them and using Xposed and to some extend with the JET-apk.

If you look at Joyings xyzPX5S models, you have a DSP unit as well, which is easily modifiable with a custom ROM as [MENTION=334854]m2maynard[/MENTION] demonstrated, but it is an "always cold booting unit" (like all the other non-FYT units and also like the standard builtin car brand head units), meaning that is is not up & running in 2-5 seconds, but taking 20-40 seconds depending on brand/model.

So in that case you can just as well buy an MTCD/E unit and install Malaysk or Hal9K. As soon as the MTCD/E PX6 8.1 units arrive I imagine a custom ROM will soon be available. For quite some (MTCD/E) PX5 models you can already buy a plug&play DSP module and I'm almost certain that some of the new PX6 models will soon arrive with DSP. If one Chinese manufacturer starts, others will soon follow. Copy & Paste nowhere works as good and fast like in China.
[FYT Android Head Units] edit:
Thank you for your thoughts Surfer ! I am looking for an upgrade for some time now, but I really want it to be an real upgrade so keeping the features that I have now (2 second start, root, good screen, good wifi and bluetooth hardware, SofiaNoKill or similar mod, the BT mod and many more, BT tethering), but add something more like more cpu speed, an 4g module maybe, an good DPS (EQ), more stability. Now I need to find a decent MTCD unit seller in Europe that sells an unit with decent hardware. I'll keep looking.
[FYT Android Head Units] Busk07:
Please, share your results of a decent seller with us. I got the Joying unit without doing any research beforehand and I'm quite disappointed. An android head unit with such limited customisation possibilities is frustrating. Does anyone know if xtron units are any better?
[FYT Android Head Units] edit:
Well, I was reading the whole day yesterday and I did not find anything worth mentioning.... Maybe some Xtrons are worth looking into but none that were made for my Ford had DSP and a decent EQ so I am a bit disappointed here.

This Joying Intel Airmont headunit is by far the most feature rich at this point in time... also it has the best price...

I'll keep looking... but I hope someone can root this one.
[FYT Android Head Units] fabien_m2002:
What is this global immersive mode? How to launch it?
[FYT Android Head Units] thomasorr:
run the following command from a shell or over a adb shell (you need to be rooted)

settings put global policy_control immersive.status=*
[FYT Android Head Units] bambapin:
It is a full screen mode for android apps in which both the status bar and the navigation bar are hidden by default, but you can show them again with a small vertical swipe.

You can use SystemUI tuner from the Playstore to enable it globally or based on specific apps. Root is required.
[FYT Android Head Units] thomasorr:
I'm having problems with voice feedback (google assistant and maps) after installing the latest update 6.12

Is anyone else having this issue? So annoying it was fixed in the last update, but they broke TPMS, now TPMS is working again but the voice feedback isn't! :mad:
[FYT Android Head Units] zmylna:
What i do

1. Updated HU with the new firmware.

2. Installed Poweramp 2.0 from google play

3. Uninstalled poweramp 2.0 and installed Poweramp 3

and ... steering wheel buttons works with 3rd party app Powerplayer again :)

Without zlink.

So, Joying support is wrong by saying that the steering wheel buttons do not work with third-party applications or if they do not work then this is the fault of the application!!

This is prove:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10Cea2sgBlQWAwnKGSEix9ZhTiqBZp633/view?usp=sharing

Poweramp version:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10BzCjXJMtML3-2fTgKoxHSmoUGXguw5H/view?usp=sharing

Thank you all for help :)
[FYT Android Head Units] fabien_m2002:
Hello

steering wheel buttons do not work Poweramp 3 where it is backgroung, only foreground. For example, open PA3 and then Maps, so test buttons, does it work?

ps: it works with PowerAmp 2.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
No, it is correct that there are no mainserver mods. The main server apps are really sensitive for being on the right firmware, so they are really made for every new firmware.

I simply did not have the time to make new mainserver mods for the latest firmware.

And this week I will be very busy with travelling, so perhaps coming weekend.
[FYT Android Head Units] thomasorr:
After further testing, it's not the latest firmware (6.12) that breaks Google Voice feedback but rooting it, and yes I did make a new patched boot image from the latest firmware. However you can root the device make any modifications you need to (for me that is immersive mode and DPI change) then uninstall magisk completly using magisk itself. Then the Voice feedback returns.
[FYT Android Head Units] Caroline_Don:
So do you mean the steering wheel control doesn't support Poweramp 2.0, but support Poweramp 3 after you update your unit with the link I sent?

Before you update your unit with 5.15 firmware, it supports Poweramp 2.0, right?

Thank you
[FYT Android Head Units] Caroline_Don:
Can you describe your problem in details? Did you retrain voice model after update your unit? Please see the video:

https://youtu.be/5Pe_G6mHJZI

If you want to use the google assistant when you using google maps, you need to open google maps, settings-Navigation settings-"ok google" detection-turn on "Access with voice match".

Thank you
[FYT Android Head Units] tangcla:
Yeah!!

Bluetooth calls are now able to be minimised. Can go back to home screen and use the device while in a call!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bur...fQ37ilMny_cmoAxk6SRLQqRcvPtxHcZWJQe_lEHAJRW48
[FYT Android Head Units] zmylna:
Hi fabien. On my device, somehow they also work when the application is in the background.

Today I also checked Tidal - it works.

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Hi Caroline_Don

Not exactly.

I get my new JY-VO131N4G 14.06

I do not remember what version of the firmware was on it but steering wheel buttons was works with Poweramp 3.

I was surprised because Joying support with my previous device (PX5) said that there is no possibility to use steering wheel buttons with 3rd applications.

I thought something was corrected in the firmware.

Then I installed the software from April to correct errors with the status bar and sound in google maps

The steering wheel buttons have stopped working since then.

Then I got a link to the firmware from you.

You know the rest.

I do not know if I can say that the latest firmware has fixed it.

Maybe yes.

The truth is that the steering wheel buttons have worked in every application: Poweramp 3, Spotify, Tidal .. They also work when the app is in the background.

I have a problem with the parking radar window is not always shown but I am afraid of changing anything so that the steering wheel buttons do not stop ;)
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
I am using may firmware and spotify controls from steering doesn't work even in the application..
[FYT Android Head Units] zmylna:
Julien, try firmware provided by Caroline_Don.

See posts above.
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
I am using the 1280x480 version and doubt that above firmware is suitable for me. I told the joying support post your firmwares on your website instead of sending to some of the people in private and so everybody has access to it.
[FYT Android Head Units] Caroline_Don:
Hi Zmylna,

Thank you so much for your reply in details.:good:

For the parking radar window, I think there is a problem with Canbus box. Can you make a video for your problem?

I'll help you check.

Thanks
[FYT Android Head Units] zmylna:
Hi Caroline :)

Problem is that parking radar shows up only if i switch to reverse gear.

My car have front sensor too.

On the previous PX5 unit if i switch sensors on (button next to the gear lever) then parking radar windows shows up.

See movie:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10G8w5NuHTA4QczUuRzjX5OSh4_9ypujt/view?usp=sharing

Now the parking radar window sometimes appears but more often not.
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
Those genius joying engineers had not considered head units which has not side panel buttons for that feature so it is useless for those head units including me.
[FYT Android Head Units] bambapin:
Hi, me too i have a HU specific for VW, if i remember correctly there is an option to always enable the parking radar, the default is off and i had to enable it to trigger also the front sensors. I don't remember exactly what it's called (something with "360" in the name) but i'll check later.

Indeed [MENTION=9262377]Caroline_Don[/MENTION] sometimes it happens that when the parking radar is triggered and afterwards the reverse gear is engaged, the reverse camera screen shows the radar correctly but in the end, when both radar and reverse camera are switched off, sometimes the transparent overlay screen with the X button at the bottom left remains active, even if empty.
[FYT Android Head Units] thomasorr:
See my latest post, it's not the update that breaks it but rooting the latest firmware, however you can make the modifications required with root then unroot to get Voice feedback back
[FYT Android Head Units] zmylna:
Thx, i will try to find this option and check if it works.
[FYT Android Head Units] Caroline_Don:
Yes, this firmware I sent isn't compatible with 1280x480. It supports joying head unit of 1024X600/800X480/1280X720 only. I'm asking the firmware of 1280x480 for the joying support and release it.

Thanks

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Is this option a 360 switch or single 360?

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The joying support said this option can't use for VW. For the parking radar, you just need to open these options: Radar Display ON/OFF, Reverse Parking Line.
[FYT Android Head Units] zmylna:
Both are On. Radar popups correctly but only if i switch to reverse so i can't use front sensors.
[FYT Android Head Units] bambapin:
Just checked my setup, [MENTION=9262377]Caroline_Don[/MENTION] is right and i remembered wrong sorry: i had the default 360 Switch to On and i set it to Off (the opposite of what i had said before :o).

My current setting is:

360 Switch = Off

Single 360 = Off

Radar = On (in the car "agreement" submenu)

This way both the front and rear sensors work on my car
[FYT Android Head Units] Caroline_Don:
Is your head unit a joying PX5 or joying SC9853i? The front and rear camera works with the PX5 correctly. Thanks
[FYT Android Head Units] bambapin:
It is SC9853i, a JY-VO130N4G. But i was talking about the parking sensors, not about the camera
[FYT Android Head Units] zmylna:
Thx, bambapin i check this after work.

Is there any description of HU options available somewhere? There is a lot of it, and descriptions are what they are.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Just to be sure: Do you mean that it is now standardly supported in the software, or are you using my mod?

In case of standard software, I do not need to make that mod anymore for the 9853i.
[FYT Android Head Units] tangcla:
Standard, that's a video from Joying themselves.

It isn't fully hidden, I haven't tested it myself yet.
[FYT Android Head Units] zmylna:
Ok, i know what is going on.

In this device, the radar behaves differently than in PX5.

Here it appears only when you reach the obstacle in the front of the car.

In PX5, the radar appeared immediately after switching on with the switch next to the shift stick.

So radar generally works.

The only problem is that it does not always turn itself off when it should. Sometimes you have to turn it off by touching the cross mark on the screen.

But that was already written about.
[FYT Android Head Units] Jainyankee1993:
If anyone has a civic, I am having a significant lag when my right camera turns on. So when I put the right signal on, my camera takes at least 3 seconds to pop up. This is quite frustrating as it defeats the purpose of the camera during something like a merge. Is there any solution to this?
[FYT Android Head Units] PsychoMcSatan:
Hey, can I ask what DPI you change to and why?

I'm still struggling to get "OK Google, call ...." to work. I still get "I can't make calls yet", but I know in the Joying Sofia thread it was discussed that part of the issue is that the default DPI of 160 made Android think it was a tablet, but switching to 161 would help it work by making it think it was a phone(?). However that solution for the Sofia also seemed to require a custom call handler which is still in the play store (GVC CallHandler 4 Joying).

I believe there was a message or two in this thread stating that it works fine for them with no tweaking, so I'm wondering if they have a different resolution unit (resulting in different DPI). I have a 1024X600 unit with a default 160 DPI. I rooted an earlier firmware and changed DPI to 161 (and a few other values) but could not get it working.

In any case, does OK Google calling work for you? Does it work for anybody with the latest firmware?
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
I am having same problem with my rear view camera and after having lots of mailing with joying support turns out there is no solution for this problem. There are a couple of users having this problem and i think it os a defect of the hardware.
[FYT Android Head Units] thomasorr:
Hi, to get ok Google to make calls you have to 'tell' Google which app to use to make the call, by default it's the built in phone app which doesn't really exist nor do anything.

To tell Google to use the Bluetooth app you have to click on the Google app icon the press the microphone icon to initiate the assistant (you have to do it this way and not the ok Google method as it shows a different display) then ask Google to call someone from your contacts, it should say calling the person but a popup will say no app to make calls or something like that. On this screen there should be the 3 dots menu on the top right of the call box, click that then you can select the correct app. Once this is done ok Google will work to make calls!

I will try to make a video to better explain and edit this post.

EDIT: here's a video to help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWn_pT2BSdM

Note I do have my DPI set to 200 so not sure if this works with 160, it may still say cannot make calls yet.
[FYT Android Head Units] Black6spdZ:
6.12 root available for d/l somewhere?
[FYT Android Head Units] bambapin:
Just made and installed, check this post ;)

patched boot 06.12
[FYT Android Head Units] Black6spdZ:
Thanks!
[FYT Android Head Units] Caroline_Don:
Thank you:D
[FYT Android Head Units] bambapin:
Hi Caroline,

sorry to keep bothering you but i noticed that when you save the currently tuned radio station (eg in slot P1..P2 ..), even if the station shows the name in the RDS information screen (PS: Example Radio), the station name is not stored in the slot and only the frequency is shown on the button

The only way to name the station is to do it manually, while i remember that in old versions of the same syu radio app the RDS name was automatically saved and shown in the slots (eg P1..P2 ...).
[FYT Android Head Units] Caroline_Don:
This problem can't be solved. Can you tell me what's version can show the information automatically? Is the firmware version or the sofia? Thanks
[FYT Android Head Units] czarekurb:
I would like the Intune program to run after navigation, I installed the tasker, but after starting the radio I get an error to run the application, if I start the intune manually, I will go out and restart the navigation then it will start. He will never start alone at the first time. Does anyone know the solution to this problem?
[FYT Android Head Units] rigattoni:
You need to put Tasker in foreground to start any other application. I´m running into the same issue.

Seems, that the apps are not visible for Tasker if running in background.
[FYT Android Head Units] Black6spdZ:
I'm sorry but this HU is an utter piece of sh!t! Wish I had never bought it now
[FYT Android Head Units] thomasorr:
I'm actually quite happy with it after the latest update, I've come from Newsmy NU3001 and it's a massive improvement. I had to do ALOT of customisations to the ROM to get that unit how I wanted it.

Now some of the teething issues and bug have been fixed for this unit, I've barely had to do any mods to make it do/look how I want. Joying do seem fairly responsive with bugs as well and are actively improving/releasing new firmware albeit not as fast as me/others would like.

What are your current set of problems with it?
[FYT Android Head Units] czarekurb:
My old radio for the win ce has always started with what I was doing when I was off the radio, the new radio can not do it, it's definitely the fault of the android system itself. There is no more convenience, although there are more possibilities
[FYT Android Head Units] seb21:
No,it's not the fault of android. All the problems and limitations are fault of Joying, because they want control the behavior of whole system.

Android itself is very customisable system .If Joying would give so much control as posible back to system ,we would have a great unit.

Now it's just great hardware and sadly very weak software.
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
Couldn't be more right, this piece of sht has reached it's purpose far beyond by stealing my precious time to investigate bugs and finding solutions to get it working. Maybe we should wait at least one or two year for bug free firmware and by that time maker will produce newer model and stop supporting this and so on..
[FYT Android Head Units] Black6spdZ:
Where do I begin.. I too came from newsmy nu5002 8" version. First off through all the updates since the May version the touch screen sensitivity and response has been crap.. Feels like operating a phone with a damn glove on.

2. I can pair with my "not cheap a$$" obdlink MX BT adapter once and after system goes to sleep and resumes that's it.. Can't re-pair. Why is there no direct BT integration with android?!

3. after a wake up I often have to turn off and on WiFi to make it connect.

4. Unless rooted and DPI set to 161 most apps look like hell.

If I can somehow get a refund I'm going back to my 4yo nu5002 that worked much better as a vehicle hu
[FYT Android Head Units] czarekurb:
Hardware is probably not so bad, maybe over time or Joying will fine-tune the software or come out with custom roms that will be used in the car. Although looking at the temperature of the CPU, it's strange that they did not even use a passive heat sink
[FYT Android Head Units] Black6spdZ:
I missed my return window by 3 days.. Looks like I'm stuck with this heaping pile of steaming sh!t.

Anyone digging for leaked android source so that good devs can fix this thing? I'm tired of flashing joying updates and having to reconfigure everything after the wipe only to find that nothing practical was fixed
[FYT Android Head Units] Black6spdZ:
@ czarekurb you can already count that they are working on next model.. Inflated system specs make the sales, when you realize the software is complete garbage after a couple updates.. Well it's too late.. You're stuck with it
[FYT Android Head Units] tangcla:
I don't think their software is garbage.

Before I bought my Joying I was looking at a Pioneer unit with Android Auto. I'd spend triple what I would spend on that Pioneer, and let's be honest, their software would be worse and they wouldn't even have any form of support or feedback for bugs or enhancements. So while yes, you get what you pay for, you are also buying from a manufacturer who takes the time to listen to customer feedback.
[FYT Android Head Units] Black6spdZ:
Android auto.. Screen mirroring? Don't get it, a waste on a full android hu. While I give credit for joying listening to feedback.. Updates that fix one problem and create two more once a month don't quite get it.. Even if the unit is a third the price of a pioneer screen mirror device. The newsmy carpads had several devs in XDA community pushing out very nice non-chinesium ROMs weekly for quite a while.. WITH twrp to boot!
[FYT Android Head Units] Caroline_Don:
Automatically power antenna doesn't work in joying 9853i

I have a question. Antenna extends after then unit boots when powering the car on, can it retract immediately when the vehicle is powered OFF? Will it take a certain period of time to retract? It took 4-5 minutes to retracts after turn off the car. It's very annoying. Does anybody have the same problem?
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
Normally head unit powers the blue wire when android boots up and powers off when the unit goes to deep sleep mode after 30-45 seconds on mine..

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Maybe we should collect some money and purchase a cheap joying unit to give a developer who can make a custom rom for it but which dev would be interested in this head unit that almost nobody is using it ?

Any thoughts ? Also i am willing to make a donation to whom may improve the software of this unit..