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[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Still... Here we are in July and we're still on February security patch on a Android Enterprise Recommended device... COME ****ING ON MOTO!
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] alexcheveau:
Carrier's fault? LOL

#MotorolaNeverMore

Edit: the update was ready indeed, Google launched it in like 1 year ago
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
A Motorola rep confirmed the carriers don't want shatterproof phones. That's why they're not building more Force models anymore. They probably had an impact on the Z2 Force update schedule to force users who want Android Pie to buy a new phone on contract.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] allrightlite:
Ok, force fans have just the Z2 Force for the next years. We should be carefull with this device. I will buy never again a new phone now. Z2 Force forever. Need this shuttershild screen, gorilla glas is to easy brakeable for me.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] quadcrap1:
Does Lineage Pie support VoLTE and Visual Voice Mail for T-Mobile?

If not, then I'll stick to an OS that does.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] AndroidNazi:
I have used visual voicemail and im pretty sure i saw someone say volte was working but i may be wrong about the volte
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] papadelogan:
This sadly makes sense to me. I've dropped my Z2Force a few times and 1 corner is ginked up a little, but the screen is solid. Now, my stepdaughter has an iPhone X and dropped it ONCE... KABOOM!!! $1000 gets you that??? That's crap. I guess it's time to go with a custom ROM.

Sad that I'll probably not buy another Moto phone again, I've really enjoyed the Moto Mods. Congrats Lenovo, you've cut your own throat. :(
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Actually Lenovo doesn't fully own Motorola Mobility, only 51.3%. Media doesn't know s*it about that deal.

It's entirely the carriers decision to send up updates to the phones. They have the control to that, not Moto.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] AmoledLove:
No update regarding retail units/ unlocked versions getting updated to pie. It is the minimum responsibility for the phone maker to at least deliver the news about the concerned update inspite of cancelling the promised update in one region and it's sickening to know moto has always been a book of mystery when coming to updates(be it os update or security patch or something else.) Forget about other moto lineup, Z2 force is comprised of more updated and capable 835 SoC and stuck at Oreo 8.0( not even 8.1) which is very very sad to realize and something that is hard to digest especially when one refer to the 821 SoC based OnePlus 3t where the phone got updated to Pie months ago and to the June security patch a day ago, considering the age of phone is almost 3 years. I'm not comparing the moto to OnePlus and I'm not here to judge the Moto's legendary journey but it's definitely what Moto needs to look at, like seriously.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
It's the Mods that make development more complicated. 2 year old Moto X4 got Pie in November. Motorola One series is up to date with June security patch and Pie. G6 also has Pie since January etc.

OnePlus only has a few phones to deal with. Motorola has a phone for every budget and obviously that makes it harder to maintain.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] AmoledLove:
I hear that. I know there's a complication with modular phones to get things right and it takes time. Motorola lives in the dark, it's like hiding, literally when coming to updates. Yes, OnePlus has very few phones and it's worth mentioning all them comes under flagship segment and they don't have a single mid-range segment phone to date (except OP X maybe). And the point is the OnePlus 5 stood among the competitors of Moto Z2 force, ever since these phones got released, OnePlus has had low stress to maintain their OnePlus 5, so the updates were quick. Coming to Z2F, there are other lineups, dealing with carriers and some other stuff should slow down the update process, but the process not only slowed down by time, it's ABANDONED. Moto Z2 force is the flagship of 2017 and my only pain is flagships of Moto have never earned enough respect. If only Moto focused on flagships, the story of Z2F should be different and I bet it won't be similar to the story of OnePlus 5 but at least, I'm sure it would have been better than now.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pietchaki:
Just got my phone updated to Android 9. To what I know I'm not in any early deploy list.

Moto z2 Force in Brazil.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
You mean you're not part of the soak test?

What security patch is it on?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ram1894:
I think it would still be June 2019. It would be a miracle if Motorola updates to July 2019 security patch.

Anyway good to know that it's a wider rollout. Is it the 159-19 build?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] carlos way:
Any have catch OTA??? OMG ?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] VzQzZ:
Yeah, seems like Pie started to roll out here in Brazil. I've seen some posts about in a Facebook group.

It's with June Security Patch and the build number is the same as the second soak test build released.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pietchaki:
Yes, not in soak. At least not to what I know. It would be a list of people who agree on receiving beta tests, no?

Security patch June 1, 2019, as seen on screenshot.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ram1894:
How's the stability? Any bugs so far?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] AmoledLove:
Just wondering if One-button navigation gesture (Navigation pill) came with the update?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Can you tell them to try to capture the OTA? Thanks!
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Taime:
i think this is fake news and just a fake screen short

no body received pie update .. its just soak test screen short .. if anyone received pie update send some more athentic proves ..

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motorola and lenovo just making money and doing business . loyal customer is a bigest fool according to moto ..
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] :
fooling people around feeling good ,hah?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
What group?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] AmoledLove:
It's already late getting pie. But the thing is, waiting for another month doesn't matter to me if the update is truly coming as I waited for ages. No exact idea regarding roll out, but roll out maybe true considering the Pie release notes showing up again! Hoping for the best, whatsoever!
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Taime:
brzil facebook page
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] :
these captures tell nothing whether they were from soak pie or public release.

stop spam the thread if people know nothing sh*t, just waste others time and attention without nothing
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
I agree, besides rather than post the same screenshots grab the ota link from a logcat and download it. Not sure what the devs have, but maybe they need one of these otas, especially if they're newer or non soak.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Taime:
i have video pie update .. give me num i will send you

somebody send me
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] :
[MENTION=9341459]Taime[/MENTION]

no,thanks. not interest in the "secret".

nvm ,but why not just post it to public if a public released?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Taime:
ok
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] thomas_b:
I don't want to fuel any conspiracy theories, but when I look at the 'screenshot'... Should the version not be 9.0.0 or something like it? It says only 9...

So far these posts are the only source for an update I could find on the internet.

Anyway, wether it comes out not, I'm done with Moto and I have been a loyal customer since my RAZR V3.

Anyone care to recommend a good phone that will take dual nano SIM?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] AndroidNazi:
My official 9 on the moto g7 play i got free from switching carriers just says 9
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] luis4ever:
This looks legit. Also a yourube user has a video with the proof. Still nothing but at leats i can get hope.

https://www.meu-smartphone.com/moto...ar-a-chegada-do-android-pie-ao-moto-z2-force/
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] thomas_b:
hmmm.....as much as I would like to have the update, but I don't find any evidence in any of the youtube videos.

They are showing the same screenshot that has been presented here, the rest are just some stills of some Z2F. it would have been dead easy to at least record how he went into the settings menu and select the version info.

Anyway....where is the statement from Moto regarding the update, where are the release notes, where is ANY official information...?

Any information about this mysterious brazilian FB group is still outstanding. Also no word from any other 'receiver' has been heard so far. Normally in a rollout the threads are flooded with 'me too' posts. Where is that here?

I for one don't find any of this credible or trustworthy. But I'd be happily corrected from wrong.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
Here [MENTION=4852759]fisummer[/MENTION] let em' have it lol.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] thomas_b:
looks like since it is their biggest market. Everyone else has already abandoned the sinking Moto ship.

I just counted my moto devices I owned (V3i, Razr, Razr HD, Moto x, X play, Moto Z, Z2F), but honestly I am pretty calm about their descent. Right now I spend more time considering what phone I'll buy next than worrying about a mystery Pie update for the Z2F.

Other companies can build decent hardware too. And maybe those care about customers.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] luis4ever:
This comes from a very good source.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] thomas_b:
If so, where is that confirmation from Moto then?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Just saw this.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] thomas_b:
someone wrote something somewhere on facebook. So what does that prove?

(you need to charge your phone, your battery is dying... :D)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
I'm with [MENTION=4852759]fisummer[/MENTION], this is kind of the same information reformatted and re-posted to surmise that the update is rolling out. It's still the same old same, it's coming... eventually. What's worse is it might pop up here before long and we'll be hazed with 'see, I told you so' lol. When it rolls out, great, grab it and post it, the ota not more posts.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] thomas_b:
I could not agree more.

It may come eventually, but taking the same stuff over and iver again and calling it a reliable source just fuels expectations, that won't be fulfilled.

I will just not hold my breath until there is hard evidence.

Screenshots and silly youtube videos from some dude don't prove anything, not matter how many times they will be replicated.

So spare us this kind of news and lets wait until there is something real.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Hahahaha yeah, crappy battery on the Force.

This fanpage posts legit stuff regarding updates all the time. They speak to Motorola Reps from India.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pedro Gomes:
Arrived in Brazil!

Just arrived Android Pie for Z2 Force in Brazil!
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Fabianom77:
Just got it too.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Awesome! Someone capture the OTA please!
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Fabianom77:
Can't post outside link, OTA is in #!nzhQCC5T!8QDI7o72ie_CwG6WxOOEzqS5nMOMhGVzcxLomMA4iZE at mega

Enjoy it
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Thanks man!! OTA Link:

https://mega.nz/#!nzhQCC5T!8QDI7o72ie_CwG6WxOOEzqS5nMOMhGVzcxLomMA 4iZE
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Uzephi:
Blur version 27 is 8.0.0 we need an OTA with Blur 29 for Pie
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pedro Gomes:
Here the update appears, but it gives error, due to my bootloader being unlocked, apparently. How to capture OTA?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Uzephi:
adb logcat > %userprofile%\desktop\logcat.txt

drop that in your cmd prompt, start ota, give it a few seconds and you should have a txt file on your desktop with an ota link.

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That is the wrong link... That send you to Blur_Version.27.481.21.nashfab.retail.en.US .zip which is an Oreo release due to versioning number.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Hey man, that link is wrong, it's sending everyone to a different version. Do you have another?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Thalion1974:
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[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pedro Gomes:
my logcat

Is my logcat.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Uzephi:
Seems your phone already has the OTA download started so a log won't pull the OTA link for us. The first line for your "otaApp" was "Notifying updater to update progress 28."
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] VzQzZ:
Just got the January patch here on retbr.

Next update can only be Pie or Motorola is messing with us..
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] allrightlite:
Really late for a flagship. Even Moto G4 Plus has more recent software and there is an android 8.1 rollout :D That's funny, yes. Normally we should have the 8.1 update on our phone, which wasn't chep. Very sad. March should it be, or never flagship from motorola again. Next time G-series :D
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] gelado:
Got the January patch here on retbr too. As it seens, all G line got updated first. Still waiting...
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] gyarados025:
Got Jan 2019 patch just now on retin , in the mid of Feb

This confirms we have to wait at least 2months to get Pie :'(

just like the Flagship Moto Z receiving Oreo last year in Apr 18
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] FrankRr:
That's frustrating, still being on 8.0....

Here (reteu) still nothing.

Never again I will buy a Moto so called flagship device...
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Well it's 2 years old almost. What do you expect? We'll get some nice new features from this year's models too. Just like the camera just got updated with AR Emojis from Google, Leveler (in settings) and Live filters.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] allrightlite:
Yes, Android 8.1 comes out dec 2017. After over one year no 8.1 update. And now Pie so late. Yes, that's not funny for 799€.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Galaxy Note 8 didn't get Pie either and it costs more..
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] VzQzZ:
I'm not saying it's fair/correct, but Samsung at least can say their ROM is heavily customized and needs more time to fine tune it etc.. Motorola on the other hand uses a much more close to stock experience.. very few customizations to justify all that long time to update..

Despite the terrible design IMO ( this is probably the ugliest phone I've ever had haha ) and the not so good battery, I love my Z2F, but it feels like Motorola doesn't really care for their flagships. It's all about the G series..
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Well they need to make sure it works will all the moto mods on all carriers + they're adding new awesome features besides the Pie ones. I prefer to wait a bit for a stable version
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] FrankRr:
I expect a fairly up to date OS, at least 8.1 ;)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] phone-company:
Hi use also the Moto Z2 Force here in germany. Volte and wificall works with no problem....
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Bietschek:
I am also from Germany with reteu device on Android 8.0. No wifi call and no volte with original O2 sim Card.

Which device exactly you have and also on Android 8? Where you could switch on volte?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] solocchi:
Hello. In reality, Motorola has released Oreo 8.1.0 for the Z2 Force in the test version. I have been using it for several months and it works great.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] alexcheveau:
Can you explain how do I get this version? Thanks
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] FrankRr:
Good, and where to get it?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] jonas210678:
I am also from Germany and Wifi call and volte is working great. I'm using original Vodafone. I think the problem is o2, it isn't working on the pixel devices too
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] theandies:
Just received the January 1, 2019 (on AT&T) security patch so hopefully we are on our way to PIE!!!!!
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Bietschek:
Not a Problem from O2. Same sim Card I used before in xiaomi redmi note 4 and volte is working.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] solocchi:
What version of Moto Z2 Force do you have exactly? European, American, etc .. The firmware OPX28.116 Oreo 8.1.0 distributed by Motorola is official but only for American models so to work on European model like mine, you need to replace the file NON-HLOS.bin.

The link to download the firmware is this:

https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/nash/custom/
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] carlos way:
Who have update to pie, this only retbr? If i change to retbr i'm recived pie? Excuse me for vas English
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pedro Gomes:
Good lucky:

https://moto-cds.appspot.com/cds/upgrade/1/check/ctx/ota/key/Moto Z (2)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] carlos way:
Don't work link
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Fabianom77:
DId you downloaded and installed it? I got it from logcat if the filename is wrong is bacause moto provided it wrong.

Take a look at my logcat:

07-10 09:48:01.654 6971 6971 E DownloadService: DownloadService : downloadRequest - {"downloadRequest":{"contentResource":"{"proceed":true,"wifiUrl":"https:\\\/\\\/dlmgr.gtm.svcmot.com\\\/dl\\\/dlws\\\/1\\\/download\\\/rN3geS12Jbd%2FgFTFXYpkA4nkj9%2FmlRBFuisKgbOUteZFGF0LVIr3fZGsyTBNleklN%2BvGu2j4xooz5Ky%2Fve7SfWxiNRrirsHHl6FTVf0ixv8zJWnEV7tpPSWFhgM4Omjnub6h%2BFdSQzU8VKtJ6Runv4O6zEeFVxBGiGT8uWuZANrOO1dW6bhYgq%2BaHZ77zig9","cellUrl":"https:\\\/\\\/dlmgr.gtm.svcmot.com\\\/dl\\\/dlws\\\/1\\\/download\\\/rN3geS12Jbd%2FgFTFXYpkA4nkj9%2FmlRBFuisKgbOUteZFGF0LVIr3fZGsyTBNleklN%2BvGu2j4xooz5Ky%2Fve7SfWxiNRrirsHHl6FTVf0ixv8zJWnEV7tpPSWFhgM4Omjnub6h%2BFdSQzU8VKtJ6Runv4O6zEeFVxBGiGT8uWuZANrOO1dW6bhYgq%2BaHZ77zig9","adminApnUrl":""}","wifiOnly":true,"time":1562761208,"size":1300141033,"fileName":"\/data\/misc_ne\/Blur_Version.27.481.21.nash.retail.en.US.zip","hostName":"","port":-1,"disallowedNetworks":"","downloadScope":"","emailId":"","backOffValues":"5000,15000,30000,60000,300000,600000,1200000,2400000,3600000","maxRetryCount":9,"advancedDownloadFeature":true,"upgradeSourceType":"upgrade","allowOnRoaming":false}}
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pedro Gomes:
You may need a specific download credential, which you only have in the updater.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] carlos way:
How to get this???
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pedro Gomes:
I also do not know, I'm trying to download the same as everyone. I just extracted the link from OTA and shared it here so maybe some developer will be able to download the update.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] carlos way:
U have update for retbr?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Fabianom77:
I just read the metadata inside zip. It says it is Blur_Version.29.11.19.nash.retail.en.US. Moto provided a wrong filename at logcat and I used it to rename the file. Blur_Version.27.481.21.nash.retail.en.US is minVersion you can update from.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pedro Gomes:
Yes...
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] huatz84:
I think Moto give name to OTA zip with ROM we should use before, not the exact OTA what we will be upgrading.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] laureon:
I just got the notification. Anyone around to guide me through capturing the OTA? My phone is RetBR
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Can't post links. Search on google how to capture ota url
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] AndroidNazi:
Uzephi posted how a few posts back
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] pizzaboy192:
Anyone with a Verizon Z2Force, can you try the "Recovery" feature in Lenovo Motorola Smart Assistant? I can't trick it with my Z2F T-Mobile edition
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] laureon:
Alright, I cant attach anything in my comments. I guess it's because I don't write too much in here. So, I uploaded the logcat to Pastebin.

You guys can get it in:

pastebin /t7i7pBuB

I hope it helps. Stay awesome =)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] jonytestXD:
My phone firmware its retlat1st, can i flash stock 8.0 retbr to recive the OTA? im from latin america Mexico thanks by the way
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] carlos way:
My friend yo creo que sí de hecho voy a instalar la retbr

Ahora les cuento cómo me fue;)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] adamantem:
Avisas si te apareció, para que aplique la misma.

H
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
Applying the RETBR rom doesn't work, the software channel is still unchanged.

I think the best option is to wait for a Pie factory image to flash with fastboot, or somehow flash the OTA zip via fastboot.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] jonytestXD:
well, so better wait , hoping not take so many time , i've waited fot Pie so many time . thanks for the info
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] maxvikakosa:
Will retcn receive android 9? And also can someone who already has received android 9, upload screenshots of it?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pedro Gomes:
how to get a flashall or commands for files extracted from OTA?

Hello. After a lot of work, I was able to extract the payload.bin file, but I realized that the extracted files are totally different from the Oreo firmware. Does anyone know the commands needed to flash these files? Attached is the image with the file names extracted from payload.bin. Thank you very much for the help!
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
So give us OTA payload.bin!
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Debuffer:
is this what we need to be able to ota our devices?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pedro Gomes:
Yes, sir:

https://motoota.lolinet.com/?model=...27.481.21.nash.retail.en.US&carrier=retbr&sn=
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Debuffer:
deleted
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
I can't unpack payload.bin with payload_dumper.py
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
The bootloader and logo images are incremental (BSDIFF4 patches). It is currently unknown how to use these.

bluetooth.img, boot.img, modem.img, oem.img and system.img are full, and should be flashable with fastboot or Moto fastboot, but they aren't enough. The bootloader seems to have some changes with the new version, so it is needed and without the updates it doesn't boot.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] solocchi:
Hello. What program did you use to extract the files from the bin file? I can not do it. Thank you.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Pedro Gomes:
I followed these instructions:

https://xdaforums.com/nokia-7-plus/how-to/guide-how-to-extract-payload-bin-ota-t3830962/amp/
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] solocchi:
Thanks!!!
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] MateuszB:
I try this way:

htt ps://thedroidarena.com/extract-payload-bin-android-update-file/

My output file list:

htt ps://drive.google.com/open?id=1PzVVrZo8c3Vt6Su39LkcfJBiRJVDeSZ5
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] solocchi:
Hello. The guide works perfectly. I was able to unpack the payload.bin file
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
Dziękuję bardzo, bracie Mateuszu!
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
If anyone is trying to flash the OTA manually via fastboot, please wait for a full system image to be available. The OTA zip is not flashable via fastboot (even if it's extracted, some important files are partial) and it cannot be applied via the recovery if the device isn't the Brazilian variant