yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] XtreMe_G:
omg you have no idea......i just went through hell finding cab files and getting them to work on the weekend. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!

i found a cool way of getting some cab files though.......older devices with less storage or with extended roms like the blue angel, the cooks usually provide cab files with their roms.

The worst part was getting the HTC apps to work, esp the multimedia apps.......a lot of the cab files, they just provide the executable and few stuff and the graphic files, but not the codecs that it needs to work. what i did was dump the at&t 6.1 rom and grabbed a bunch of codecs, somewhat works now, i'm missing some reg entries........i'm somewhat waaaaay over my head, but its fun learning this **** as i go along.

oh and i hate the fact that all these htc apps dump their graphic files in the windows directory, takes me forever to open that directory. i did find one or two versions of apps that didnt need them in the windows directory.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] finch:
I like where this is going and want to see more. I am one of those people.

I like the dutty series. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=383638

Was one of my favorites but too much in it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=388947

The lite of this is the one I am using now.

For example. In the first link I do not want the HTC home, FM Radio etc. But this rom is FAST.

I really like the Hybrid I am using but I have the lite and really liked the MS Voice in from the full versions. I would like to take the games out add ms office and a few progies I use.

I nomintate

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=388947

I use the 1.64.08.21 radio version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] marm0lade:
Two registry edits for touchscreen adjustments I find useful:

-Adjusting touch screen sensitivity (from GWENI)

-Adjusting the backlight level when device is locked

For both of these you will need a program to edit your device's registry, such as Mobile Reg Editor or PHM Reg Editor.

Adjusting Touch Screen Sensitivity

-open reg editor

-browse to to HKey_Local_Machine\Drivers\TouchPanel

-change key "PressureThreshold" to "5000".

5000 is recommended, but you can play with the value until you find one you prefer.

Adjust Backlight level while device is locked

-open reg editor

-browse to HKey_Current_User\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel

-change key "LockLevel" from "0" to any number between 1-10.

For this one I have mine set at 5. 10 is the brightest. Adjust to your personal preference.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Thanks for the vote of encouragement.

I would assume that you meant the lite ROM from Dutty's latest? I am a fan of the Dutty ROMs and have not yet tried out the latest "lite" version. I couldn't find out on the main page what exactly was IN the "lite" version. Can you post that info here, or a direct link?

So we have our first contender (awaiting more info) as Dutty's latest "lite" build.

Remember to all posters the idea here is to start with a good basic ROM that will allow us to customize ourselves (without being locked down to cooked in apps). Using something like Dutty's could be a good idea as his lite version should have many of his good tweaks built in. I would just like to get some more specific info as to what is in his lite ROM, as well as a few more nominations before we get the ball rolling.

Chances are what we come up with in this thread can be used with many of the ROMs out there, so we don't all have to agree on one. In fact, if we can nominate the top two or three lite/stock ROMs out there for people to experiment with that would be great.

Also, please remember to always check back on the first page for any updates.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Great, fantastic marmOlade, this is exactly the type of things I want to see in terms of good tweaks that pretty much anyone would want to have.

I know most of these are out there posted (like in the excellent GWENI thread) and most like we will have a lot of cross-linkage going on there.

I hope to get a nice database of these tweaks and maybe either work with one of the developers to either make an updated kaiser-tweak program with many more entires, or possibly I can work on developing a PC-based app that would generate a registry file based on chosen options which can then be uploaded to the device. This way you can check-box off the tweaks you like and quickly update the device... that is down the road of course..but thanks for the initial contribution!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thomassster:
I believe all your kaiser tweaks can be found in kaisertweak and schap's advanced configuration. If you want to edit htc home, then home customizer works wonders. Not sure why you need a thread like this when you have all these tools.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Thanks for that input thomassster. Yes I realize that many of these tweaks are included in some of the tweak programs out there (probably 80%?). Part of this here is to bring attention to them. Many of the tweaks are either already built into the cooked ROMs, or people don't necessarily know what they do just from their title. If we can compile here some better descriptions to help better understand what each tweak does, then for people who wish to customize their own devices from the ground up have a good compendium to look through.

Also, registry tweaks isn't all this thread is about. It is about how to add various applications that may have tricky ways of doing things into a compendium where people can find it easily.

For instance, it isn't always easy to get MS Voice command fully working, or Skype, or some GPS softwares. Currently if you want to use some of these programs you have two options:

1) Use a ROM that has these cooked in already.

2) Look through the forum until you find the solution.

Option #2 of course can be very time consuming as information is outdated and dispersed throughout the forums (some of it isn't even in the Kaiser forums). What I am hoping to do is bring this all together to assist all with some of the trickier apps (MSVC, cubes, etc...).

If you feel this is unnecessary, then please feel free not to visit, but I hope you will continue to provide beneficial input. I'll be sure to post your suggestions on the front (if you have more info to give, links and such are appreciated so I don't need to search myself!).

thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msharaf:
I like the idea as all tweaks and tips are spread over thousands of threads.

I worked on collecting my owns long time ago and I think putting them in a new thread is not a big deal unless bengalih do the documentation of all posted tweaks and post them in one document and/or CAB in first post.

Or simply add them to wiki
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Thanks for the vote of support. I am as much interested in getting some good descriptions, and many categorizing the tweaks. As many have pointed out most of the tweaks are out there and already included in some of the tweak programs. I would like to add to that by giving attention to exactly what the tweaks do, how they help us, and which ones are highly recommended.

For instance, you might use Dutty's ROM and like all the tweaks in there, while not even realizing what he has done. If you moved to a "lite" ROM you might miss those things, but not really know which tweak it is you need to perform... I hope to gather a good list of that type of info here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slovoflud:
Great!

I totally agree with what you say in your first post. Currently using latest Duttys ROM, but still feel i need something more custom made (by me) in other words i'd like to have a bigger input in what I use.

watching the thread....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] vcespon:
Most cooked ROMs are bugged

What about starting with an official shipped ROM?, remove just stupid things like welcome center, customer feedback... everything else is needed.

Most cooked ROMS I've tried have things broken, I mean things that work on official stock ROM and not here.

Like Windows live, 3G call, QuickGPS, HTC album.. I usally do not spend more than a few hours with a cooked ROM before I find too many bugs and too many things that should be working and are not.

I can flash the ROM that came with my TyTN II and add a few cabs, and all work. Camera works, 3G video call works, GPS works, Tomtom works, Skype works... It's WM6.0, but things WORK. No missing icons, no missing buttons, no stupid buttons for hardware that it's not on the phone...

And, expecting those "go cook your own ROM" flames... this is looking a lot like the linux fanboys, I'm not a programmer or OS developer, I see someone announcing an OS and test it, and give my findings. No good if basic things do not work correctly and you have to search for registry tweaks to make something that you had before appear again, or work as in a stock ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
I am using a cooked rom and dont have any bugs. Looks like u have tried the wrong roms. And dont forget that shiped roms dont have some customizations(which improve the performance) that the cooked roms have.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] vcespon:
Stock ROM + Kaisertweak >= any cooked ROM

I don't know what you call "performance", I see the stock ROM swift enough, even faster than most cooked ROMs. Playing youtube videos from the web and downloaded, playing Divx, switching from portrait to landscape (fast and no garbled pixels while switching), reading on RSShub without 5-second locks sometimes, flipping though a book in MS Reader at 5 pages/second.. Camera v4 and v5 work perfectly, videos can be saved and watched again on WMP.

Just checks other threads and you'll find many complains about some of these things not working on cooked ROMs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ehsanuetian:
I think shipped Roms are more "bug free" than the cooked Roms.:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
This all is matter of preference as this whole thread. You preffer playing video, reading RSS, ... and I preffer quickier programm opening, ... And for me cooked roms(at least cooked roms Ive tried) are better in this area.

2.u cant do everything with the kaisertweak.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Vcespon...

This is certainly a possibility, and something I want to explore in the first phase of the life of this thread.

I agree that most cooked ROMs have bugs. This isn't to say that they still aren't usable, or even very good at that. For instance, i consider the ability to not be able to install another SIP keyboard easily a bug even if the vast majority of people using the ROM don't (because the prefer the keyboard cooked in).

As you state I have not had these problems with a Stock ROM. I have usually found that a stock ROM also just works, and you can install whatever you want on top of it.

When I posted a thread previously on the benefits of my methodology vs using cooked ROMs, I would say 90% of the defense of using a cooked ROM was "It saves time - not having to reinstall everything after flash." The other 10% was "I don't have to get everything working myself." However, as you have noted the custom ROMs threads are filled with posts of people who have one problem or another. Again, this isn't to belittle the excellent work by the cooks, but as originally stated you can't please all the people all of the time, and there is bound to be an issue.

As far as using a stock ROM. I don't necessarily have an issue on this if this is the best base in terms of compatibility. We have to balance compatibility with bloat.

What we need are some more specifics here, as some people are throwing out suggestions without giving some good details as to the questions posted in the first thread.

If you feel a 6.0 ROM is better to use than a 6.1, give the pros, but also give the cons. What would be missing if we didn't use a 6.1 ROM, and can those things be added into the 6.1 (without cooking...probably not). Again, my preference is still a 6.1 build, and possibly a cooked "lite" version since hopefully the removal of the bloat introduces less chance for problems than the addition of it.

So please, all suggestions are welcome, let's just get a bit more detailed to make a more informed decision.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Mikulec... you are correct there. One of the main purposes of this thread is to enumerate those customizations that are in the various cooked ROM that do improve their performance. Then, those of us who would prefer to use a more stock ROM can make some of those tweaks.

It also allows the changes to be made one at a time, for two reasons:

1) It allows those of us who have the desire to know "what" is being done to actually see and do it ourselves (thus raising general awareness).

2) It allows those changes to be rolled back if they present a problem

I realize that some of these changes may actually need to be cooked in, and wouldn't work otherwise (like replacing a critical system file in ROM). But I believe a large majority of these things can be added a la carte.

Again, this is for people who want the ultimate control of what comes on and off there phone. And YES, we could go cook our own ROMS, but again, that only benefits one person, and that would also still require recooking a ROM anytime a change needs to be made (like upgrading an installed application). I can uninstall and reinstall an app in about 60 seconds, where even cooking a basic ROM is at best a 10 minute process with multiple tools needed (meaning I can't just download a .cab OTA to my phone).

So thank you for pointing that out to allow my clarification...yes, we want to find and list all those things that make the cooked ROMS so nice so that we can make those changes ourselves to stock/lite ROMS.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
Modify & tune rather than cook . . .

(emphasis added)

Great point! I agree! I also agree that _Alex_ Lite ROM is usually a good place to start from, in my experience.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msharaf:
I am starting to like this thread more and more ...:)

I have a friend in my workplace who bought same set as mine but decided to keep orginial ROM.

With every flash I do I compare his performance with mine,

Guess what???

His performance is almost the same as mine even better with weak cooked ROM but BUG FREE :rolleyes:

The only thing I felt a difference in, is file read/write operations. Some windows builds like 19202/9 are damn fast. It shows the windows directory in 2or 3 seconds while normal ROMs do it in 5 to 6 secs.

A tweak I like that improve read/write,building icons, and some other things is:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\.NETCompactFramework\3.5.xxx is set to "1".

Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] XtreMe_G:
the load time of the windows directory also depends on the number of files in there. and obviously the number of files in there is different from rom to rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Definitely with a lite ROM there would be less, another advantage. Plus, there isn't as much of a need to ever go into the windows directory when all your apps aren't installed there.

I am leaning towards going with one of the "official" stock ROMs out there at my main basis for this project....but I don't think either the HTC or the AT&T 6.1 builds are official at this point. Although I don't think that 6.1 has that much more functionality over 6.0, I would prefer to work with the later version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Thanks for the contribution, but it looks like you are just providing a key path, and not which parameter should be changed to "1"? Also, if you could provide additional info, preferably following the syntax posted in the first page I will add this to the list.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msharaf:
The key is 3.5.7283.00 DWORD to be set to "1".

I put 3.5.xxx if you have different ver of .NETCF 3.5
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msharaf:
I agree with you.

But the difference is not that big if you have 10 more applications added to a thousand of files.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] finch:
Sorry for the dealy here is the link.

http://rapidshare.com/files/1113351....1_5.2.19700_Hybrid_V2_1_64.08.21_LiteV2_.zip

to be honest the rom that worked the best for me is.

http://rapidshare.com/files/107917203/Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_Official_5.2.19209_1_58_16 _27__FIX_.zip

This was the fastest and my favorite so far.

Here are the specs

Rom Applications Included Below:

Adobe Reader [added 16.4.08]

Adobe FlashLite Player [added 16.4.08]

Arcsoft MMS 5.0.31.11 [Updated]

BT BPP_1_6_3_0 [Updated]

BT SAP_2_02_b0925_r3

BT Ftp_1_2_312471_1

Esmertec Java VM 20080222.3.1 [added 16.4.08]

HTC Album 1_0_1030_720

HTC AudioManager_1_2-1017.717 [Updated]

HTC Bluetooth Quick link

HTC Camera_5_0_4_2915_00 [Updated]

HTC CommManager 6 Buttons [ Shap's STYLE]

HTC ConnectionSetup_1_0_31261_1 [Updated]

- Want to remove

HTC Endkey_1_0_31235-1 [Updated] [Mapped to Red end key]

HTC Field Test_2.15

- Want to remove

HTC Home_2_0_814_722

- Want to remove

HTC Home Plugin [added 16.4.08]

- Want to remove

HTC NetworkPlugin_1_0_30468_1 [Updated]

HTC Quick GPS_1_00_919_717_01 [Updated]

HTC Random Access_4_0_1009_721 [Updated]

HTC RSS Hub_1_0_07 [Updated]

HTC Sim Manager_6.41 [NEW]

HTC SymbolPad

HTC StreamingMedia_3_00_1001_711_00

HTC VoiceRecorder_1_10_907716_0

Microsoft NetCf 3.5 RTM

Microsoft Office 2007

Microsoft Sqlcemobile 3.0 [NEW]

Microsoft voice command V1.6.19209[ NEW]

Microsoft Windows Live 10.6.34.800 [NEW]

Microsoft windows live search

- Want to remove

ADD ONS INCLUDED

Clear Temp

Gps test

- Want to remove

PIM Backup 2.8

- Want to remove

Pocket RAR

Total Commander

Group SMS

My Registry tweaks:

Tidy up today screen

Clear type enabled

Live Serach through google

Disable Security Warning for Unsigned Apps & Cabs

Enable GPS in Camera

Single date line hack

Custom performance tweak

Battery performance [ Updated with much better performance on battery deterioration

Lots more cant remember

also remove all games and the fm radio he said he added.

I love Duttys tweaks and and I only want to remove a few things I never use and add a few I like and do.

I add

onenote

samsung clock

tomtom

a F1 progy I like

etc.

Hope this helps.

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Ok...thanks, I still wasn't sure what this tweak was doing from your description, but a search discovered that it apparently sets the default NetCF to 3.5. I'll update the main page with a link to a thread that I found which gives more info.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
I agree with the April 16th Dutty's being a nice ROM. It is what I am using until I design my stock/lite ROM with everything I need.

Please remember though we aren't lookign to nominate ROMs that we want things removed from to make them how we want. We want to concentrate on which are the good lite/stock ROMs and what we need to do to them to get everything working as close to possible as the feature-rich cooked ROMs while still having the ability to remove and update non-cooked in apps.

thanks again for your input.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] finch:
Then I wish Dutty could give us a lite version of the April16 rom. That is crazy fast.

I mean that would not be asking much. Not like Dutty has done anything in a while. LOL He only has a new rom every couple of days. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Well Dutty has released a lite version of his latest build, which after the initial fixes seems to be fairly stable.

I'd like to avoid making statements about speed with these various ROMs, because honestly there haven't really been any proper tests to conclude this. Some ROMS have posted benchmarks, but I also don't know how much I believe these benchmarks translate to actual usability.

The problem is that no ROM is created equal. When a cook releases a ROM based on CE build 1.1.1.1 and then another one based on CE Build 1.2.2.2, people will begin to claim that one is faster than another. This may of course be the case, but in general the cook does not just update the build, they modify additional registry entries, add/remove more things from the Windows folder, change keyboards, dialers, page pool. etc. Each of these things can change the observed speed of the ROM.

If a cook presented two ROMS, 100% identical except for the CE build, we might be better able to determine if one CE build is actually faster. Personally, I don't think that the speed differences on this front alone would be too dramatic.

In any event, once again to stress one of my intentioned purposes for this thread:

I'd like to list, and figure out, all the various things that are being placed into our favorite cooked ROMs so that we can take a stock/lite ROM (which generally perfrom fairly snappy) and add/remove these things at our will.

e.g....If we were to add a new dialer and discover that somehow the system was slowed, it would be a simple matter to then remove this dialer as it wouldn't be cooked in...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] UnicornKaz:
I used RESCO EXPLORER registry ... and it's one of the best for saving reg entries ...however

the above key change goes full bright for anything other then a "0" and the reg

does not "stick" after a soft reset

!!! ( works then and there but not after a soft reset )

every other changes sticked ... ( I double checked all my changes ) .... just not this particular one. ( backlight level while locked )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msharaf:
Well, I like this thread and its discussions so I wont let it die. Come on guys, share your experience

I will start to post all I have learn from this forum and some of my own experience (as much as I hv time).

Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msharaf:
Tweak: Sound scheme in Windows mobile

In many ROMs, some people like the ticking sound when clicking the start key, choosing applications, ...etc.

If you don't have it and you want it, install the CAB attached.

If you have it and don't like it you may remove the whole or part of the following key:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Snd\Event\.WM6

If you don't have it and don't like, no problem :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msharaf:
Tip: PagePool size in ROMs

Now with some tools like Kyphur PagePool patcher http://for.../showthread.php?t=390471 you can set the PP size of the cooked ROM before flashing.

Which size is suitable to you?

From other people experience with many phone sets, ROM boosts with very small (6MB) and very large PP size (32MB). If you increase your PP size, your free RAM allowed for applications decreases. If you decrease the PP size, you cannot open many large appliactions at same time and you may suffer freezes.

From my own experience, I like to set the PP size to Dynamic (increase as much as needed) which is the default of many stock official ROMs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msharaf:
Tip: Fancy keyboards

Most of lite ROMs come with OEM keyboard, for people who likes fancy keyboards here is a list:

* PCM keyboard:

you can find latest version here http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard.php

* HTC Touch keyboard (new):

Get it from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2170088

* Resco Keyboard (my favorite):

Attached with special skins similar to full kbd with crtl, shift, lang keys (supports all languages)