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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dhart62:
When I was reading you OP, it took me back to the s4 and note 3s. Then I started thinking of the j3 prime root. Anyways i remebered 2 old apks BuildProp editor by JRummy and CSC Features Expert BY WANAM. I'd like to add, I have a s10+ snapdragon we could try it on. You would probably have to walk me through it unless it's something I could just flash.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] alher591:
how much does samsung pay out? Maybe we can payout higher :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
No idea ive given up long ago
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] D1ck3y0da:
This is something I'd most definitely pay for. I had a root droid 3 can loved the fact I had full control and was able to do all kinds of misgevious things. This is a very powerful device compared to the droid 3 and cant even begin to imagine the roms and customizations that would become available. I wish you luck and hope to check back soon and find you had that eureka moment! Best of luck mate!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
We are still talking oreo, right? Or does that exploit also work on Pie? I know the S10+ came with Pie out of the box, but just wanted to confirm because I'm on pie now
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Root doesn't necessarily mean roms as the phone still has a locked bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] DAGr8:
They are other ways then recovery to customize your system partition.

With that said. If ppl like me and you stopped buying locked bl device maybe just maybe the carriers would listen.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] shagy38:
I am moving to the one plus 7 pro
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
My point was moreso on the s8 and other devices with similar types of root, all that came of it was stock debloated "ROMs"

I wasn't trying to get into a philosophical debate about bootloader locking, though I do completely agree with you and my last couple phones have been ones that could be bootloader unlocked.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
This is my absolute last ever forever until I die locked phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Choice is getting much slimmer. If a reliable pixel with decent specs comes out I'd consider shifting. I feel like me finding the perfect phone in every way has about as much chance as finding a unicorn.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
After suffering the locked down Note8, I bought a Pixel 3Xl and couldn't be happier with it. I know some people have had issues with it, but I haven't at all. It's been the best phone I've had. Despite the inferior specs to Samsung phones, I find that it's faster and sharper than any other Samsung phones I ever had. I also love the camera. I know everyone's experiences are different because a lot depends on which apps you use. For me there is no comparison and the unlocked bootloader and root are heaven.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
My pixel 2 needed an rma and I got a device back that couldn't be bootloader unlocked as it was a refurb. Did 3 more rmas all with the same outcome and they refused to send a new one.

Was pretty funny and ironic, buy a device specifically for that reason and get one that is useless for that purpose.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
Seems like your experience is somehow rare. Never heard of this happening to anyone else.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
I can send you thread after thread about it on here and also on the Google support forums. It was an issue with all pixel 2 refurbs.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
Pixel 3xl is my first Google phone ever, so I'm not familiar with previous versions. Perhaps on the Pixel 2 it happened. However, I have never seen or heard of this issue on the Pixel 3Xl forums.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
so what's the reason all you guys are buying the North American Note or S series again and again when each year as expected, their bootlaoders are locked? i mean i understand the 1st time you might not have known but after that i would think that one would not repeatedly do the same mistake. The rest of the world has the unlockable version, maybe its time to boycott the American carriers (and canadian) and just buy international. you can even buy an Snapdragon if you really want the faster SoC from south america or china or just buy the exynos. i understand the merits of this thread is to assemble ideas and people to achieve something. but all the rest that arent providing insight or are derailing into talk of other phones or how displeased because of the letdown of a locked bootlaoder: dont buy the wrong phone next time, do your home work first!

so lets get this train ontopic.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] blksprk:
For me at least, it's about cost and convince. I have Verizon, they let me finance my phone. They don't offer anything with an unlocked BL as far as I know. And I can't afford to come off $1000 for one off contract. I know Google has start financing in house, but in my case, that's not really an option. So those in my boat are left crossing our fingers that it'll be unlocked or at the very least rooted.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
Locked bootloaders up to Note 8 could still be rooted and even take custom ROMs. So a lot of people like me were Ok as long as it could be rooted. Exynos versions, however, lack some frequency bands needed to run properly in the US.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
dosent the chinese a south american n9600 work?( that device can be rooted)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
Yes, but even those versions don't get much development as compared to Exynos. Also some people don't have good enough credit to buy phone out right, so they have to finance it through phone company which is always locked.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
yes. but at least there are options. i guess its down to:

choose your poison and be contempt with that decision.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Money
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
all the more reason to buy the proper device especially at that price. i buy using PayPal and get charged 21 days later( pay after delivery option) giving me enough time to assemble the funds.

there always rhe credit card option too...

both these options above cost less than buying it from a provider and paying it off monthly.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Correct, but through the carrier (especially T-mobile) there are great deals. My note 9 was $750 at the time it was a $1000. It's not worth using a credit or even financing anymore. No phone is to be honest. I guess I've just been giving these little things too much value to stress, pay good money or go through the trouble of financing them. I guess their importance is how you make it feel. For me, this is the absolute last time that I'm spending more than $400 for a phone. I'll be living on the side of cheap phones from now on, I mean after this note 9 dies.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
for sure it will allow you to feel better if you change once a year or more. at that price you can change every 6 months!

i know that around 1 to 3 months later, am already bored of it..lol

edit

but even at 750 through provider, do t they force you to take a bigger dara play till you pay it off? thus resulting in more ore less the same price if not more? not sure the terms, is it for 1 or 2 years?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
And that's another better way to look at it. I can literally get a new phone every couple of weeks if I wanted from the tips I get at work if I just buy midrange phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Weren't you complaining about thread going off topic like a couple hours ago? Lol

Jonzing for some likes eh
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Edit: if I were single and didn't have two kids [emoji23][emoji16]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
exactly lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
I was, too, at some point. [emoji23]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
The cmdline injection didn't work on no fyi.. works good on s10+ however.. I'm just weary as I've burned through 3 g975u and at least 3 n960u already lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Damn, you need a whole store by yourself full of phones. LOL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
RIP note 9 snap
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] RogueList:
TBH at this rate root on snapdragon devices don't even same worth it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
Good thing it's more of a hobby for me lol.

I just wish there was more dev's on these locked devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
I wish there was as well. Definitely the last locked device I ever buy. Still hoping for root on my Note 9 one day though before I decide to switch to something else ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Sucks you have to choose between nice hardware or open software... Why can't a company manage to do both?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] IDontKnowMang:
I think the simple answer to that is nobody would buy the new devices after
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
The state of Android makes me sad honestly. There is so much I love but also so much that infuriates me. I wish Google would reign things in more.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Google can be blamed for their share of killing features, like call recording and further customization options.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
and like allowing vzw to lock their pixels so they cant be oem unlocked
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
Not just Verizon but apparently others like Sprint,Tmo and others as well.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
RIP note 9:svetius::victory:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zaileion:
Please tell me this is still a possibility. I hate not having root. It's my phone, I paid a grand for it, get Samsung still owns a very small but critical part. It's like buying a car and having the engine encased in adamantium. Pi$$&s me off terrible!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
Doesn't work on carrier branded I did test it out just to play with it that's bout all.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zaileion:
Gosh darn it!!:mad::crying:

Guess I'll have to get one from Ebay or swappa and activate it on sprint. D@mn you Samsung!

Thanks man very much for trying! Long live open source and the devs that make it possible!! Keep up the good fight!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
the problem is america and how they do business. Samsung makes devices for the whole wide world and funny enough, those are rootable. so explain to me again why buying the wrong phone is samsungs fault and not yours again? at least blame the carriers if you don't want to blame yourself.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
???

what doesnt work on carrier branded?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
Root
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
the combo root works on usa carrier variants. thats the whole reason i created the threads lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
Yea but no system root where we would have all service
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
true.. its "systemless" and yes, combo firmware is not used as a daily driver lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] cartoonmonkey:
Does this method not get us root on the u1?

galaxy-note-9/samsung-galaxy-note-9-snapdragon-roms-kernels-recoveries--other-development/root-t3927413
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
You wont having ant features like calling data text messages it works but not for any one that
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] cartoonmonkey:
Maybe time to change the tile of this thread to... unrootable. :-/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
Nah the title is good and non misleading. I'm still hoping for root on the stock firmware. I'm gonna hang onto this phone till it's paid off to get probably the One Plus 7 pro. Never getting a phone again with a locked bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MoistPicklez:
I completely agree with you, I grabbed the Note 9 out of excitement because of my ending contract, and didn't really do any research into the snapdragon variant or bootloader. Definitely not a mistake I will make in the future. There's great development in ROMs and Treble images now, miss diving into all that.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
yes, it works on u1 devices/combo.. its listed right in the title.. lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
it is rootable lol.. just not on stock.. if u arent planning to contribute to the discussion then please refrain from posting discouraging comments..

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] cartoonmonkey:
But you can't install anything other than stock with a locked bootloader so... Please explain how I can get root on this phone and still be able to use it as ...a phone.

From what I understand it's currently simply not possible, and doubtful if it will ever happen in fact. How are those comments not welcome if they guide others as to reading about the current situation with Note9 Snapdragon? I'd find it very helpful to read about what's possible, and what's not. It's why I'm reading the thread. Doh!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Root is possible, just not the way you obviously want it. By literally saying Root on Combo firmware only, says everything that literally needs to be said about this root method. If you're on xda in a developer section asking what combo firmware means, it means it's time to learn by reading and searching. You stating that root is hopeless(paraphrasing here) on stock, DOES NOT contribute to the development of root on stock, or root period. Obviously combo firmware rooting isn't for everyone, which includes you, so why are you here asking or even commenting on it if it has nothing to do with what you want or need? If you would like to contribute, assist the OP with Developing root from withing the combo setup to see if there's a way to bring it out to stock firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] cartoonmonkey:
I hear you, but I think you should maybe calm your ass down.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
fight!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
well if you dont read the op which clearly explains all of this and that it is on a COMBO firmware then i dont know what to say..

this is meant to be a discussion thread towards those who want to help in hopes of rooting stock, not those who want to be negative nancy and complain about how theyll never have stock root.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
to add, some more developments... the same persist qdss stuff is present on stock oreo (not on pie) but on stock is triggered by property sys.coresight.dbg.enable=1...

i currently have not found a way to set this prop on stock (not allowed/denied) so if anyone has any ideas on how this can be achieved then we can really start looking to root stock
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
No need for me to calm down, I'm not even the least bit excited. I dedicate my emotions to actual personal things in my life, not to the internet. ??

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Stupid question time....

So we can't use build.prop edits because... System. And I'm assuming we can't run that through say adb?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
maybe you should get a cookie after this amazing contribution youve just made.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] JOSHSKORN:
Go listen to Def Leppard to get your sugar. Problem solved, and thanks for your. amazing....ehem...."contribution". :p
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] lottomania:
quote

Does it works?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
not sure what you mean
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
I'm guessing he means "does root work" some people don't read sadly and just continously bump the thread with non sense. Each time I see a new post I think maybe we've gained some progress :/ I'm stuck with this phone for a long time so yeah lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] DanHutchins:
Just wondering if this device has an A/B partition? Might be worth looking at. If it has been already I apologize. I read somewhere that most new phones are using this partition to flash files without custom recoveries and can help gain root as well. Just a thought. I'm not at all advanced enough to do this stuff but remember seeing it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
Root for the Note 8 seems close at hand finally. Perhaps that method can be used here too.

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-8/development/wip-n950u-bootloader-unlocking-build-t3854549/page28
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
Nope, it supports Project Treble, but, it doesn't have A/B partitioning:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kevintresuelo.treble
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
from what i understand the A/B concept is to push updates to devices more seemingly. but dont know if is less security and makes it more exploitable.

but i wonder

if there might really be a second system image after all. on exynos devices:

there is a system partition where the regular system is.

and then there is a second system image partition. it never changes is size.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bugel:
Normally without custom recoveries, you'd push it thru fastboot mode. Since this is a Samsung device you only have download mode.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
Unfortunately it doesn't work I asked in the forums already
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] todd1623:
Can I root my sm-n960u yet?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
you can root your phone whenever you can root it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] JOSHSKORN:
If you could, I imagine the topic title would be changed or this topic discussion would be closed, possibly with a brand new topic on directions on how to unlock (if that were possible) & root.

Short answer: No. Either maybe not yet, or maybe not ever. I'm sure this forum will blow up when it does happen, though. with all sorts of rooted apps beneficial to the Note 9.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] lincolnsxda:
Why do you say "dead end of story"? Are you a pessimist, or are you privy to information the rest of us aren't? Respectfully, there are those of us who have hope and patience and believe Elliwigy and other devs do too. Do us a favor and keep your opinion to yourself.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sacnotsack:
Very little if what he posts is positive or even helpful in this thread. It's not the first thing like this that he/she has posted. I've chosen to just ignore his posts.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] theloulw8:
Nobody likes a negative Nancy 24/7
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] alvinator94:
Not sure if the panic issue and those partitions that are giving you trouble refer to Defexr or not but here.

One more in regards to that.

Basically it says " UPDATE: The patch was added to the official Magisk releases, Thanks for all testers."

Don't know if this is relevant to your panic/security issues but oh well.

Also what partition would you safestrap too?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] lodk:
Noting since the 7th :( it seems like this cause is just about dead. Not sure when to allow my phone to update.

On a lighter note thank you everyone that's been involved is trying to make this a reality.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] lowridincrew,:
Is it just me or did the title change, in a good way.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
its you.

ure thinking of the other thread...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
could b part of the problem but either way doesnt help us since to patch defex you need to patch boot.ing which we cant do..

typically data.. u need a root script to execute early enough in the boot process however.. the script we have seems to be a bit late in the boot process so device loads before it is executed
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
i been workin s10+ also.. if we can do s10+ then could most likely do n9 also as it is less secure..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Man ain't that the truth.?

Ahh the funny video.?

[youtube]JmvCpR45LKA[/youtube]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MorePAIN:
Can't wait. I miss root.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Let's hope it happens.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] zazabichi:
Any hope for root?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] teknowiz23:
It's gonna happen ??
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] /laron.m.s.08:
Anyone have the oreo to py? Or wait for the root?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
To py????

Sent from my Still Rooted SM-N950U
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
p-i-e ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Its everywhere..Venoms thread or Firmware Science. If you go to Pie you can always Odin back to Oreo if you want using Odin, as long as bootloader isn't upgraded and as of now its not.

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Ooops responded to wrong person..my bad.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Sweet. I'm still on Oreo and mine still shows U1. Looking forward to see where this project goes. I've been debating about buying an Exynos Note 9 because I want root.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] rbedell:
Mine says U1 on locked ATT snapdragon stock Pie. Will this apply to me to still? Maybe I block all updates. ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
As long as your bootloader is s1..u1 you are fine. If it says U2 or S2 then your bootloader has been upgraded to revision 2. As of now there has not been an update on Snapdragon that has updated the bootloader to v2. U1..S1 is fine U2..S2 no. Unless OP states otherwise. ..(U1..S1=YES) (U2..S2=NO)[emoji16][emoji106]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sacnotsack:
There's only six pages to this thread. The questions about bootloader/firmware versions have been answered multiple times. Please read the thread or use the search function.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
This is awesome news. Hopefully it can be applied to other phones like Note8.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL