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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sacnotsack:
This is great news. Hopefully some devs contact you. Loved your work with the S8.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] PsiPhiDan:
Yeeeeeeeesssssss!

Very exciting! If we're updated to Pie, are we out of luck then though, regarding the firmware?

I remember you doing some great stuff but I don't recall the phone... Galaxy S3? Note5? Note7? Note8? HTC M8? EVO 4G LTE? OG EVO? Anyway, I am excited to see you here. ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] a63548:
Wow, this is very interesting, and I loved reading your detailed post. I am super exited, and can't thank you enough for all your work elliwigy! :):D:cool::good:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Full on beast!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] teknowiz23:
I wanna say s8/+ and the note 8.. both of which root solutions I used.

Word brotha ?? thank you for your diligence. I love that your hobby can help out so many who don't have the time, will, or discipline to learn it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
you should be fine as long as you remain on rev1 firmware..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
lol ive had a lot of devices thats for sure but most my work is on samsung
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] GSM CHEN:
Yeeeeeeeesssssss!

You are always the loveliest "Rev1 firmware baby"
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] teknowiz23:
So.. I had to get a replacement via Asurion, and before setting it up I installed the earliest unlocked firmware. Sm-n960u on Verizon plan. I understand that this should work as long as I don't update, correct?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Yes, just make sure you stay away from anything that says N960UxxU2 or S2
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] PsiPhiDan:
Mine says Rev 1.1. Does that mean game over for me?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
No that's for hardware revision. Is normally for when a device has had a hardware fix that changed something from the original design. So if they realized the fingerprint readers on rev1 were crappy and changed it out for future ones, they would show rev1.1 or whatever numbers they want to classify it as.

I'm not sure what they may have changed on the Note 9 though. Could have been camera or even something internal such as memory or radio chip.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
What you want to stay away from is any changes to the attached image. Don't update to anything that says U2 or S2 at that section of the firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] gwest04:
Thank you for your hard work on this .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
None here but this should be in Q&A thread
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] /laron.m.s.08:
The rest of the community casted all of us u1 owners here to a dark cave .like a bunch of lepers lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
[emoji1787][emoji23][emoji1787]

SM-N960U ONE UI PEACAN PIE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] just4VP:
This is true lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
Hey folks,

Not sure how much will be done this weekend. I revived myN9 in EDL and got a replacement which ill most likely be sending back to avoid paying for it..

I just got msg from my father however and he is in hospital with health problems that are concernibg to me.. he is over 1000 miles away.. i will most likely be limited to my work or communications this weekend due to circumstances. i need my phone so no edl stuff or explouts will b done..

i still have not received a spare device or knowledgeable testers to help out when im gone or unavailable so work will continue when i figure out my fathers health.

its one thing after another this year..

i will update when i have any news.

if any devs want to help or take over please pm me as i have requested from the start.. i am not givibg up but have othwr stuff going on so would mean a lot if soneone can step up and take over/help me out.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sacnotsack:
Family first bud. Thanks for the update.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Go take care of your father. Family is above everything. We are alive, we've been alive without root. It's not like our lives depend on it. I hope that your father gets better.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
Agreed. Cannot win in this world lol. He is far away from me so cant really visit but I am staying home today waiting for updates as he goes back in to the hospital.

Hopefully nothing major.

My life depends on root lol jk.. i just love having root on my devices so drives me nuts when i dont.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Understandable. Here is to hope for nothing major.

And I'm right there with you. I've been trying to convince myself that it's ok to have a non rooted phone, but just the idea of paying $750 for a device that I can't do anything I please to is driving me crazy.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] lincolnsxda:
Root can wait! My family's thoughts and prayers are for yours this day.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
That's the spirit.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Take care.View attachment 4719259

Sent from my SM-N935F Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] teknowiz23:
My old man just passed away. Completely unexpected. I'm 34 and he was 61. Do all family, we can wait man. Thanks for all your hard work and best wishes to the old man and the fam.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
thx for the good vibes guys.. dad is ok.. all tests came back ok!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bugel:
The root Gods have blessed us! Glad your dad was ok! Hope he finds himself with great health in the future!.....just like I'd like to find myself with root in the future....no rush idc abt eta thank you for your dedication....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] lincolnsxda:
What do you need in a tester? Run shell scripts? I can do that kind of thing, but do not have an edl cord.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
Glad to hear your dad is doing ok!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
you dont need an edl cord lol

i am workimg in edl but having some issues.. seems edl security is also updated possibly (im new to edl)

trying to write system its giving errors about being not allowed to write on LUN 0 at offset blah blah
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] /laron.m.s.08:
Anyone know the program to block the next update?? I want to hold off

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And my offer still stands Eliwiggi..just saying
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
I use Package Disabler Pro

Sent from my SM-N935F Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bugel:
throwing some ideas around

I'm not sure if it will flash successfully just an idea. If you successfully recovered thru EDL mode, couldn't you just flash a stock n9600 rom? I have no idea if this will work just ideas.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] jameslapc2:
It won't work Odin will just go nope and even with a patched version. It has to be the specific device the U1 and U being the exception. It isn't like the Note 5 days where you could flash a European ROM on a T-Mobile device, man those were the good days It's how I learned about Dr. Keatan.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bugel:
Idea toss

Right, but with EDL do you use Odin? I remember the oneplus 2 days when you would have to flash thru the qualcomm usb tool, would it not be the same? Not trying to spam the forum sorry just trying to talk about this sorry...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] rbedell:
Use adb to disable the update app in Android. No paying, disable anything you want. All it takes is a short about of reading.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] /laron.m.s.08:
Thanks guys .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
1. Install adb on your PC (Google it).

2. Connect your phone to your PC.

3. Open CMD and run "adb devices" command, without the quotes, to make sure your device is connected. That's after enabling developer options and turning debugging on on your phone of course.

4. Then run this command on CMD

adb shell pm disable-user com.wssyncmldm

5. Tada gone. Just disabled, though.

You can enable it any time you want after.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] /laron.m.s.08:
Ding.ding.ding..we have a winner!! ? That's what I needed tyvm.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Mine was free[emoji106][emoji106]

SM-N960U ONE UI PEACAN PIE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] RogueList:
Question after you get root to work will we be able to use magisk manager and the frame work or does that require a unlock boot loader on the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] jameslapc2:
If EDL means what I think it does you still can use Odin for that. I haven't messed with the Qualcomm tool as I don't trust Chinese hardware.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nochlab1:
Edl is not chinese and it flashes more then odin
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] xBkKx:
Nope you need an unlocked boot loader to use magisk
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] RogueList:
Okay thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
All of them pretty much are from China n taiwan
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] TWiiTCH:
Hey Brother, just curious if you have heard back from the fellow that offered the N9 for you to try and continue your work? I am very curious and anxious at the same time because if you come up with a root for this phone that you are sure will work I will not even think twice about trying it. I remember back in the day when Android was considered an open source project and now it seems as if the big companies such as Samsung and so on are controlling Android and or Google and trying to make things hard on what used to be an open platform. Just curious if you have an update on anything or have made any progress? Much love for what you do brother, I understand most of what you wrote To Me but a lot of it is beyond my knowledge, if it wasn't I'd be working on my own phone trying to do the same thing if not working alongside you.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] jameslapc2:
I was referencing the OP2 as being Chinese. I wrote that reply while half asleep so I was kind of out there lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nochlab1:
? ok wasn't really understanding then
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tilde88:
Samsung nor Google is stopping the N9 from being rooted. It is the chip manufacturer Qualcomm. Stop spreading misinformation...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
I think it's a combination of both Samsung and Qualcomm. Samsung locks their bootloader, of course, by request from tmobile/AT&T/Verizon since their international versions have an unlocked one.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tilde88:
No, sir/ma'am.

Proof, the South America Samsung phones (with Qualcomm Snapdragon) are unlocked. Samsung could easily lock those.

Qualcomm is the monopoly chipset maker for high-end phones in North America. They have encrypted and locked the bootloader, and removed calls within the bootloader itself to be able to unlock. So even if you somehow cracked the encryption, there is no way to unlock it. This is done by Qualcomm.

They do not have reign in South America I guess, that part I'm not 100% certain about, but it is definitely Qualcomm.

Also, international models (Exynos chipset) are fully unlockable. And as an added last bit, Exynos chips, are made directly by Samsung.

So to re-iterate... Google nor Samsung is to blame for the un-unlockable bootloader (lol "un-unlockable").

Google Android is, and always will be Open Source. Being open source has nothing to do with the bootloader, it is merely the programming of the Operating System. Google does NOT make the bootloader.

Hope people will stop spreading the Google hates root stuff... Their own phone, by default, gives you the ability to root (without BL unlock, but still). Google is not anti-root.

Qualcomm = Evil, but better chips.

Exynos = Samsung, open, slightly slower chips (mostly due to kernel issues).

Google = Nothing to do with any of this.

Samsung = Not the ones locking the phones.

Verizon = Massive piece of ****, communist, anti-technology advancement (like Appple), and ofc anti-net neutrality.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Welp, I'm not gonna pretend that I actually know everything about the matter, but you're making sense. Thanks for explaining. And I'm a guy. lol

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But here is a question, since you mentioned that Qualcomm are the ones who lock the bootloader and prevent root on Samsung, how come they don't prevent it on Google phones? Don't they both use the same snapdragon soc?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
Good point & I apologize for adding to the off-topic drift,but,another example is the Pixel line-up:

Exact same phone on both Google & VZW,but,one is capable of being B/L unlocked & the other isn't..............................

In the end,it really doesn't matter who calls the shots on B/L unlocking-locking.

If anyone is really interested in which phones can be unlocked,it doesn't take much time/research to find out.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
This is the absolute very last bootloader locked unrootable phone I'll ever buy. Period. I'd rather buy a Chinese phone that I can root and do whatever the hell I want to than just get stuck with this crap. Nokia is coming back to the scene, too. I don't know how I made this mistake and went with the tmobile note 9. I think I was drunk that night. [emoji23]

Never again.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
nothing wrong with the chinese. lets not second guess them or any other nation...rrrright!?

:cyclops:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Actually, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. I apologize if I came off wrong. They're killing it with their good quality and prices. They have tons of choices.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
pretty sure they actually make all the chips and 90% of the components of every device even if its stated that a device is 'made' in an other country. in fact, it should be said assembled in x country rather than made...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Yup. Even the "premium" apple says assembled in China. Lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
oh do they? id have though california or something. anyways. apple is... fruit. ima restrain my self.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
[emoji23] fruity
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tilde88:
Verizon is notorious for BL locking. Anyway, sorry for derail. I wont disturb the thread with this.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
As much as I admire your hatred for Qualcomm, I do feel the bootloader locking ideas are possibly wrong. Qualcomm has nothing to gain by deciding on Their Own to lock their bootloaders. They do have a lot to gain by following what carriers' and manufacturers' requests though. I.e, contracts and deals.

Also, the international Note 9 is bootloader unlocked. You said that was your proof that Qualcomm decides it. However, we could easily say it isn't Qualcomm, and that its Samsung that decides because the international model doesn't have carrier restriction possibilities, thus it being bootloader unlockable. Just saying.

I dislike Qualcomm's strategy but it doesn't seem like they are the bad guys when it comes to the bootloaders being locked.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
I actually think it is the carriers who ask and Qualcomm makes it happen. How come it was only Verizon and AT&T? T-Mobile used to be the last resort for people who wanted to root, then all of a sudden they followed suit. It's the carriers who ask Qualcomm. Qualcomm is just doing what they get paid to do.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Keeper86:
Can this please get back on topic? Each day I see new replies hoping we have some news on rooting, its always something totally off topic.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
EDL mode is a low level qualcomm flash mode to recover from hard bricks..

Its actually a qualcomm mode and last i checked QC is an American company lol just ssyin..

It can also do a lot more than ODIN such as flash partitions that would normally fail in odin due to security checks in the odin protocol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
requires an unlocked bl for that
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
qualcomm is an american company...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
i think he meant that us carriers force samsung and/or qc to lock bootloaders on usa variants which i woukd have to agree..

People need to realize that what a paying customer/ient wants, they get..

by that I mean if us carriers tell samsung to lock bl on usa variants they will do it.. if they have to, theyll tell qc to lock them which they will honor.. if not they can easily say they wont use their devices/chipsets then and sammy/qc would lose lots of $$$ in the US market..

I dont think its qc really tho.. they provide samsung with necessary tools/software/code to modify the bootloader for example as they see fit.. so they take the open source/closed source code and modify it to not allow bl unlock on usa variants..

similar to how samsung blocks/removes fastboot and replaces it with odin protocol

just my 2 cents tho..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
cheap labor lol.. usa is tryna crack down on it due to propietary theft but impossibe to stop imo.. too much money to be lost by big companies, theyd fight to the end
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
[MENTION=1325580]Tilde88[/MENTION] [MENTION=9542450]TWiiTCH[/MENTION]

Both of you grow up. You must be aware of the forum rules, and general online etiquette, and that was no way to resolve an argument.

Not only are you going off-topic by hurling insults at each other, you're giving other members false hope since they check this thread looking for progress, but instead they find a bunch of off-topic nonsense.

Thread cleaned, and I hope it STAYS CLEAN.

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MeltdownSpectre
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] gwest04:
How is systemless root done. I remember I had a note 5 that had a separate partition made that had the custom roms on it. Might of been a sprint note 5. The stock from was never touched and was still on the device. Would something like that work?

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Can we use a safe strap. That's what it was called on the sprint note 5.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Safeatrap was done by a developer called [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] and it was freaking brilliant. I believe (bear with me here just in case I get it wrong. That is at least how I understood it)he injected a secondary recovery in one of the partitions to start before stock recovery (or after I'm not sure). So in that sense, there were the partition where the stock recovery sits then the other partition where his own "recovery" safestrap sits and acts like a normal recovery where we were able to flash custom roms and other things (except custom kernels). You'd literally be able to dualboot between stock and a custom rom or just two custom roms that are deployed from "sub-partitions" in safestrap. Heck, you're able to add multiple custom roms if your phone had enough storage. They all run on the same bootloader and kernel.

It was the note 3, not the 5. I remember it vividly.

I hope this tiny explanation helps OP to figure something out.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
sonethin like that yes lol.. ss is available on s8 s8+ and n8 i believe.. i havent looked too far into it.. might b a problem tho since it would have a splash before system is up and u press a key to enter ss.. since system loads first however (or very early) i dont think we have enough time to execute ss before its too late..

i will try to look into it this weekend but dont get ur hopes up
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
I've not had my hopes up on root in over 4 years now. And to be honest, I won't even be upset if, for some reason, you couldn't achieve root. From now on, I'll just boycotte these a-holes(carriers) and never purchase a phone through them ever again and just buy unlocked phones outright. Getting boring dealing with them. Good luck bro.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] lincolnsxda:
If you are able to 0 abl and xbl, could you use that string in the boot chain to early init the SS recovery?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bogarty:
Actually, Chainfire added a systemless root to SuperSU a few years back(official site here). You just had to flash the zip in TWRP to root. I packed it in to a custom rom I made for the Note5 in fact. You need an unlocked bootloader(and a custom recovery) though, which the US Snapdragon version of the Note9 unfortunately does not have.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
no lol.. it would go straight into edl mode.. basically pbl in hardware will go straight to edl when theres no bootloader to hand off too before anything has a chance

that would essentially b "too" early lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] lincolnsxda:
Wow, I hope my post didn't kill the convo lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeXii:
So question.. If its Qualcomm, why have the Samsung tablets with Snapdragons had unlocked bootloaders? Hmmmm
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
Carriers want them locked down tablets aren't not all tablets are sold by carriers
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
nope.. been busy with work n gpa diagnosed with dimentia so beendealin with that also.. gonna try n test stuff some more this weekend..

still got no other devs in sight lol i think sammy plannin to update security soon to patch my exploit so b careful of updates if u r holdin out with hopes of root
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Updates been disabled. Good luck.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pump Ac7i0n:
Hmm maybe [MENTION=4470081]topjohnwu[/MENTION] could help? I saw he picked up an s10 not too long ago and rooted it. I believe it was exynos. He seems like a decent guy, maybe he can point you in the right direction.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Might want to talk to [MENTION=6666032]JavixKGD[/MENTION].

Sent from my SM-N960U Oreo Cookie
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] /laron.m.s.08:
Agreed i can't find anything!! Verry annoying ..can't delete my own posts either ....so I look up Google cam for my device..then I get redirected to reddit..of coarse they want me to start an account..if wanted to join them I'd be there lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
huh? lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
I think he's replying to a post of mine that might have been deleted by mods complaining about how messy the note 9 threads have become ever since xda stopped categorizing them by carrier. LOL