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[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] reinamesa:
But brazilians should be able to flash ota manually?

If yes, all the files? In any specific order?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
First, make sure you're completely stock (unrooted, no TWRP/Magisk/Xposed/etc. if you're not stock, you may flash one of the software images from here using fastboot)

If the phone is using stock software (it doesn't matter if the bootloader is locked or not), just reboot to recovery and sideload the full OTA zip via adb.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] carlos way:
How u can install this ? Please step by step I have retla I can on retla
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
It doesn't work on RETLA nor RETCN (both are the same model as RETBR, XT1789-05) It might be related to the software channel, so you'll have to wait for the full system image. That one will be easily flashable in your device
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] supaet:
this won't work on tmo usa devices with locked bootloader right? anyone tried it after unlocking bootloader?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
It doesn't work on any non-Brazilian devices, even if the bootloader is unlocked.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
I have a question - why haven't any Brazilians written about the new system on Android 9 Pie so far? Why is there no proof (screenshots, etc.)? Or is it another fake again?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Fabianom77:
I've been using Android Pie since last Friday. The system is running smoothly and there has been a considerable improvement in battery life. Moto Action and Moto Screen are working well, I have not identified any problems so far.

Screenshot: https://ibb.co/CPm68Tk
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
:laugh: I'll give you 10 screenshots like that. Give us live photos to confirm.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
I don't think it's fake - why would they lie? Also, it's running the PPX build, the same as the OTA in Moto's servers
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
If we have any Brazilian friends here with official OTA Pie installed can you try to plug your device to Lenovo Moto Smart Assistant, press on the "Rescue" button and see if it gives you the full firmware to save the image and upload it for us all?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
"If we have any Brazilian friends... I'm not sure that this news about Android 9 Pie was posted by Brazilians. It seems to me that it is the Chinese from Lenovo are making fools of us.

So we can calm down and wait a long time in silence. To Chinese Easter :laugh::D
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
The build exists, so the people at Lenovo would have no reason to lie.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
It's build only exists in pictures.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
You can download it. We have been sharing the link in this thread (!!!!) Stop believing there's some kind of Lenovo team for spreading lies.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
OK! In that case, if you would be so kind as to download it via Lenovo Moto Smart Assistant full firmware?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
No, I can't. My device is not Brazilian. I just have the OTA link thanks to the Moto OTA Link Generator, but my device has the RETCN software channel and LMSA doesn't support it.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
Then why are you in charge of the Brazilians? Are you from Brazil?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
No. I'm not in charge of the Brazilian, I'm not from Brasil. I'm just trying to make you understand - the OTA is rolling out in Brazil (according to Moto's servers) Nothing else
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
I have no further questions for you. I will believe when I see with my own eyes the full firmware on Android Pie.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] zxcvcx:
The information you got is incomplete. Motorola also said that the retail version will still get Pie, and this OTA is prepared for the retail version, not for the Brazilian version.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
It's a RETBR rom. Retail - Brazilian. It doesn't work on other models, even of the same variant (XT1789-05) Retail variants are different around the world
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] Taime:
https://youtu.be/-nyRLSOYZMM

pie update video .. send me one my brazilian friend
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
Is this good man a friendly of the computer? Maybe he can download full firmware it via Lenovo Moto Smart Assistant?

What I have highlighted in the settings menu is only in the test build for feedback from the firmware testers. So again the deception...
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Niiice! Can you or someone who has the OTA installed please upload the full firmware for us all?

Here's instructions how to get it:

1. Install Lenovo Moto Smart Assistant on your computer https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles/lmsa_v4.3.0.9_setup.exe

2. Put the phone in bootloader mode (turn it off and keep pressed at the same time volume down + power for about 10 seconds until it enters bootloader mode)

3. Connect the mobile to the computer and start the Lenovo Moto Smart Assistant

4. In the "Flash" section of the program, search for "Rescue". There you choose that you have the Moto Z (2nd Generation) and the XT1789-05. The program will detect your mobile and you will see the latest firmware available for your mobile and next to it a download icon.

5. Click on the download icon, wait until it finishes and you will find the file downloaded here in this path of your computer: C: \ ProgramData \ LMSA \ Download \ RomFiles \

It starts with NASH and continues with something, occupies 1GB or 2.

6. Upload the file to any site where you can share it example http://mega.nz and paste the link here!

7. All the z2 force users will appreciate this :D
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
Look at my post above. This is a video with a test firmware.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
It should work with test firmwares too. Right?

Where are the rest of the people here who recieved the "official" OTA last week?

There were plenty of "me too" around here.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] wrenhal:
Unless you are owner of a Brazilian phone it would do you no good.

---------- Post added at 10:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:24 AM ----------

More than likely they've abandoned the thread because they already have the pie update and they're not worried about it anymore it would make total sense.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
I'm gonna need it. I have a Sprint with unlock bootloader on which Brazilian firmware is now installed. I will install this firmware, if it exists, using fastboot.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] reinamesa:
I keep getting the following error:

"Supported API: 3

Stopping adbd...

failed to open driver control: No such file or directory

failed to open driver control: No such file or directory

Now send the package you want to apply to the device with "adb sideload <filename>"...

E:failed to unmont/

E:failed to set up expected mounts for install; aborting

failed to open driver control: No such file or directory

Installation aborted"

When i test "adb devices" it detects my device

Any ideas?!
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
Which device are you using? (variant, software channel)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] reinamesa:
OPX27.109-34-21, i was at 109.34-19, but changed thinking that could solve.

tefbr

base version M8998-20207.117.02.41-01.02R NRD
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
It doesn't work on tefbr, only the retbr variant. The software channel is fixed
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] reinamesa:
Ops... Explain...

Thanks!

VIVO owns me! LOL...
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
The software channel cannot be changed, and the Moto zips cannot be installed if the software channel isn't the same as the original one.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] carlos way:
this is not easy, my computer has LMSA installed but when I try to enter the recovery option mark error says device not recognized despite putting it in fastboot
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
When it ask you to put it into fastboot, if it doesn't recognize it, try unplugging and waiting for 5 sec. then replugging. Make sure you use a 2.0 usb port off the back of your pc (motherboard port) and not a 3.0+ or hub port. Sometimes it's just a crap shoot to get a port to recognize and communicate with the phone, so you might need to try those hub ports and 3.0 ports if that doesn't work. They should have named this phone the Diva, it's prissy af.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Also try with a different cable if you have one. Sometimes the cables are not ok.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] thomas_b:
It's quite funny watching people here doing their best to brick their devices in the attempt to flash some strange update.

Why not have the patience to wait for the official update (if it ever comes) or, if you are so keen on flashing something, why not just go for lineage 16 and you are done...?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
I flashed the Brazilian software using the full firmware except some modem files on my Z3 Play and it works wonderfully.

We get the new Moto Actions. I don't go for LineageOS because I use all of my mods also I don't seem to recieve the e-mail from the Motorola Bootloader unlock page with the unique key.

Also with the new update Google Pixel 3 Camera is fully working, even the front facing camera. We might also be able to install Adobe Premiere Rush (not working on Oreo).
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
We're trying to get a full firmware package to pull apart, that will only improve custom roms. By now it should be clear that if you're not on retbr then don't bother trying to flash. Plus there is no official update coming for some of us.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] wrenhal:
I'm unable to get to a computer for a couple of days, but has someone with an at&t z2 gone to the bootloader unlock page for Motorola and tried to get an unlock key? The Z2 Force is listed on that page.

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] :
seems like moto did actually released the the pie and publicly ota to brazillian user,

but as we can see feedbacks settings in the screen shots , the moto team just released the test firmware in rush after seeing people doubt with angry .

they did publicly released but not a finished firmware
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] carlos way:
This say unsupported device, I try with another cable and nothing
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Can you try on a different PC? Maybe this is the reason we don't have a full firmware yet... Their crappy Smart Assistant
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
Who told you to connect the phone in bootloader mode?! The phone must be loaded into a system with the USB debugging enabled. When the LSMA detects the phone, it prompts you to install your application on the phone. You must agree.

In the FLASH section of the LSMA utility, select the Motorola tab, select the phone model number and after the utility finds the phone, the information about the phone will appear.

Run firmware update check. If the utility has found a new firmware version, start downloading the firmware file to your computer.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
They were referring to Rescue Mode, where it's necessary to use the bootloader mode.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Pie Released in India.

June security patch release notes are up for RETEU, maybe it's Pie?

https://motorola-global-portal-de.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/141653/kw/Update
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ram1894:
Got it through fan page

How did you get this info about India?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
From a post by an indian on this Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1099973703401546/
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Can you try to capture this full firmware with the Lenovo Smart Assistant software?

1. Install Lenovo Moto Smart Assistant on your computer https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles/lmsa_v4.3.0.9_setup.exe

2. Put the phone in bootloader mode (turn it off and keep pressed at the same time volume down + power for about 10 seconds until it enters bootloader mode)

3. Connect the mobile to the computer and start the Lenovo Moto Smart Assistant

4. In the "Flash" section of the program, search for "Rescue". There you choose that you have the Moto Z (2nd Generation) and the XT1789-05. The program will detect your mobile and you will see the latest firmware available for your mobile and next to it a download icon.

5. Click on the download icon, wait until it finishes and you will find the file downloaded here in this path of your computer: C: \ ProgramData \ LMSA \ Download \ RomFiles \

It starts with NASH and continues with something, occupies 1GB or 2.

6. Upload the file to any site where you can share it example http://mega.nz and paste the link here!

7. All the z2 force users will appreciate this :D
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] niceroxx:
Not open in widnows 10 pro, compatible?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] VzQzZ:
Just installed July security patch update here on retbr. Include some bug fixes also.

Probably the last update for Z2 Force..
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Yeah, try to run as administrator
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] niceroxx:
not working , i try compatible win 7, 8 and xp service pack 3 , all not working
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Can you send a screenshot of the error?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] niceroxx:
not the error, it just does not open, it starts loading and stops and nothing else happens
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Can you try on a different computer when you get the chance please? :)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] niceroxx:
i have only one computer hehe
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] pelia0:
This all looks like u're kidding here. 2 guys from XDA can't upload rom from LMSA, this is ******* joke.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] noobgeek1:
Guys, it's real. Android pie update is now live over-the-air for Z2 force, I just received it for my phone in India
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] pelia0:
So, can you upload firmware from LMSA there? Instruction on previous page.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
That's exactly what I'm thinking LOL
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] noobgeek1:
Okay I'll try. Although I'm no tech person. I have a Windows tablet if I can do that through it
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Yeah it works with any Windows 7+ device
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ram1894:
What is your software channel? Is it retin or retapac?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] niceroxx:
i windows update , now working, i try this again
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] maxvikakosa:
Will xt1789-05 retcn receive pie?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] thomas_b:
I have reteu. I will post, if anything shows up here ;)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] noobgeek1:
It's retin
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] thomas_b:
I read the website, it says sec patch 'among others'.

Probably just some fresh code...not bloody pie.

If so, I'll be on lineage in no time ...
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] allrightlite:
I have do so. No longer waiting. Sadly, but its no android one device, so we can't expect fast updates.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] thomas_b:
I'll be abroad for 2 weeks, so I can not risk bricking my phone. When I get back it will be lineageOS 16. I already installed it on my Moto Z and it's really great.

And I will never buy a motorola device ever again.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] gyarados025:
No update showing here , tried with OTA update tool too also the Release notes shows only security update.

(https://support.motorola.com/in/en/solution/MS141665)

The pie rollout should be in phases then :confused:

Edit : It's strange that the Pie update notification shows 01 Jun 2019 patch whereas the release notes says 01 July 2019 :confused:
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ram1894:
My software channel is retapac. I don't think pie is released for it yet.

What if I flash retin Oreo using lmsa and then receive ota?

That should be possible right?

I'm fine with setting up the phone again
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] AmoledLove:
I'm on retin but no update yet. Yes, update rolled out and maybe it's taking time to reach all the devices. Is retapac getting pie? If you're sure about getting it, it's worth waiting.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ram1894:
Retapac should get pie, but I'm not sure when.

If someone who has retin pie can capture the ota, I can update as well
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] AmoledLove:
People have been trying to capture OTA using lmsa but none of them reported a successful capture.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ilia3367:
PPX29.159-23 - it's also a test build. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z...-Z2-Force-Android-9-0-Pie/td-p/4382334/page/5 ? ?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] :
so why people here claimed they from brazil have upgraded pie? it make me so confused .

if it's the public ota in brazil mean the end of test program there , then why the guy said he is still on test program and also there is a mystery ota can't use on any other variants.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
The first Pie OTA is public (you can download it here https://motoota.lolinet.com/?model=...27.481.21.nash.retail.en.US&carrier=retbr&sn= - if it was a test version it would have required a serial number to download)

But the July 2019 security update is not available to the general public.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] SlitazMint:
My device is RETBR with stock 8.0 ROM. I have an update notification. When I try to do the update I get the message "There was a problem updating your MotoZ². No changes were made." From what I could gather it is maybe because I unlocked the bootloader.

I have never installed another ROM on this device nor rooted. I tried reinstalling the stock firmware but that did not help. I have also tried to "adb sideload ota_file" but adb is not working for me. I don't recall the exact error message but I tried with three versions of ADB. Two said something about version mismatch, interestingly each version of ADB detected the ADB version of my device differently. The message was something like: Server is 39 and client is 41, on one version. Server is 41 and client is 39 on the other version, if I recall correctly. The third also did not work, I don't recall any messages. Fastboot does work though.

I might try again with a different cable and/or PC.

I would like to be able to install this update and back up the new firmware if possible, if I manage to install it.

Does anyone have any comments on this?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] urbex:
Unlocking the bootloader kills your ability to take OTA updates, and any changes to the ROM have to be rolled back to 100% stock when you relock the bootloader, or you'll brick the phone. I'm behind a couple updates because of this.....always been too afraid to relock for fear that I'll miss something and brick, lol.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] SlitazMint:
I relocked, tried again then unlocked again. Didn't do any harm nor any good.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] urbex:
Are you rooted? I seem to recall that having an effect on OTAs too, though im not 100% sure on that
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ram1894:
Anyone able to update using this? Can I use it on xt1789-06?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
No, it only works on Brazilian retail XT1789-05
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] maxvikakosa:
Will it work on xt1789-05 retcn?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] urbex:
Is that Brazilian retail?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] maxvikakosa:
It is chinese retail
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] urbex:
So what part of "it only works on Brazilian retail" did you not understand?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] SlitazMint:
I have this model with unlocked bootloader. Is it possible to install the OTA through ADB?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] mariosjaque:
Yes, it should be possible (without root/TWRP)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] SlitazMint:
I tried as described on a post I made on the previous page. l could maybe try again later. I'm not too optimistic since "adb sideload" command did nothing.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ram1894:
Can anyone send me the software version on Oreo RETIN so that I can check in Moto ota link generator?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] urbex:
I downloaded the Brazilian OTA that was linked back up the thread a bit from the motoota lolinet site, and noticed that the name ended in something like blur blah blah retail.US

I don't have a bunch of experience with the Moto updates and ROMs, as using the speaker mod has kept me from running non stock stuff, but that struck me as odd. Is that just the way that Moto does things, in that even the Brazilian updates are named US?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] ram1894:
I think en.US means the language- English US
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] sumitsindhu:
Blur_Version.27.501.19.nash.retail.en.US
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
There's a new update for the Lenovo Smart Assistant. Do you want to try again? Make sure you enable usb debugging.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] urbex:
Doh! Yeah, that makes sense, lol.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
I wonder if pestering google about about their bull**** recommendations would ruffle a few feathers and get them to get some answers.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] urbex:
I'm sure Google is already well aware, it's been all over the news sites for weeks....it's not like this is some underground issue that only affects some tiny subset of users.

Guidelines aren't requirements, and this is part of the open source world. If Google kept a tight hold on what 3rd parties do, then we would all have Google branded versions of the iPhone. Google NOT having tight control over this, and getting into what Moto does or doesn't do is what allows us to have devices that we can mod easily as opposed to the cat and mouse game of jailbreaking.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] SlitazMint:
I just tried it now. It still says "Your version is up to date." Despite me having got the OTA notification.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
But did you install the OTA or is it pending to install?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] SlitazMint:
Pending. When I try I get the message. "There was a problem updating your Moto Z²."
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] 41rw4lk:
I'm sure google isn't aware because it hasn't cost them money, and in the grand scheme of google products and services we are a very small subset. The issue is that the Z2F is an Android Enterprise Recommended device, Google is Android. Google added this device to their recommendations and if the guidelines are so loose that you can basically ignore them then what is the point of the program? Why would anyone. especially businesses consider these devices? Might as well go for an iPhone and skip Google all together if their guidelines are merely words on a page.

The manufactures certainly have a right to do what the will, carriers too, but the reality is we kind of got the short end of the stick. As far as modding, this phone is far from easy and jailbreaking is a non-issue because for many of us the phone was bootloader unlockable via moto.
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] TigerCourage:
Have you tried the "Rescue" mode of the smart assistant?
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] SlitazMint:
I tried now. I had never tried it before. It offers to install Oreo firmware.