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[FYT Android Head Units] Guyzer73:
Morning All,

Hope you're having a more successful weekend then me with this HU....:D

I've attached some mock ups to see how I can install the screen.

However, a bigger issue I have is the audio management on this unit... It truly S**ks :mad:

On my old Seicane HU, I had "Intelligent Sound Priority" this basically meant that after some fiddling the default radio would launch on boot/ wake-up and if I then pressed play on say AA, or auto launched a media player the HU would automatically default to that player. In reverse, if I pressed pause on the media player, or closed the app, the Radio would immediately return, well after 1-2 seconds. Is that possible with this HU, can't see the setting for it??? If not is there an app that can replicate this??

Also, I like some advice on SWC. Has anybody got them working? I'm running a 2006 Range Rover Sport and have a InCarTec Canbus adapter with the 2 wire connector for Chinese HUs. Can anybody give me some insight into getting this to work as I failed miserably on my old Seicane HU.

Thanks for any assistance, happy tinkering.

Keep Calm, it's only a Head Unit :D

Cheers

Guy
[FYT Android Head Units] SpoonerPS3:
So I installed the 8-14 update and now the buttons light up green all the time also stay on for a few minutes after radio is off. No way to disable this or at least change color. Only change color when parking lights are on. So decided to go back to the previous update and it's even worse now ?
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
I have installed the august update, they've made the change side panel illumination menu that's why you had a problem. They added option to set mixed color range option as attached. Also they added some extra options in settings menu which i did not tested yet.

They updated the mcu also.
[FYT Android Head Units] spiker88:
I can't figure out how to restore the new unit from a backup. Is this option hiding deep in the menu somewhere? It'd be a real bummer if that feature is missing...

Side note, I got the screen working with the "American mental box" by removing a resistor on the board in the screen, as directed by joying...seemed weird but it worked. I think the screen is a bit cloudier looking (blacks aren't as black) on the old unit now, but it looks good on the new one.
[FYT Android Head Units] SpoonerPS3:
Yeah I saw that but when I select white, the lights turn red and stuff like that lol
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Google backup works on the Sofia, PX5 and 9853i units.

Google restore is not available on the PX5 units and now obviously neither on the 9853i.

Google restore was not available on the Sofia either, but there you could change the Joying settings.apk with the AOSP 6.0.1 Settings.apk which gave the Google restore back.

So no backup/restore possibility, and as the 9853i build is also a user build and not a userdebug build, it is not possible to make a backup via adb either.

Too bad.
[FYT Android Head Units] Guyzer73:
Hi,

Does anybody know what's changed with the latest firmware update dated 14th August?? Don't want to flash it if there are no real improvements as there's no change log or details of whats been done.

Cheers

Guy
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Did anybody with a 9853i already ask Joying?

It is of course incomprehensible that they time after time do not mention (or with only 1-2 remarks), what their new firmware solves/implements/adds, etc., but you as 9853i user could also ask Joying directly to tell you and to add it to their blog website.
[FYT Android Head Units] tangcla:
I asked, the response is "nothing special, just optimisation system".
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
I have installed the last august update and after tested a bit, they fixed below problem finally;

- Status bar background color (background is transparent and icons & text are white, so when you open an app with white background you can not see anything in the status bar) (FIXED)

-As a new feature ability to adjust lines in the backup camera which is very good.

-Other new feature is to ability to set custom color for side touch panel buttons with a bug that is when you turn on the headlights everything works as expected but when you turn off the headlights side panel illumination color change itself to a different one and can not be change with turned off headlights.

I would say its worth to update cause above fixed and new features are very important to me and maybe more fixes available, time will tell.

cheers..
[FYT Android Head Units] Guyzer73:
Cheers, I asked also but failed to get a response 'til now....
[FYT Android Head Units] Caroline_Don:
You can check the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wflpsFs_i8&t=7s
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Did you already root and does the Google voice feedback work?
[FYT Android Head Units] thierry34:
hi, when you update the firmware, you'll have to reinstall all application ? is it possible to save them to avoid having to reinstall them ?
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Theoretically: Yes, you can save them. Inside the firmware zip you download you will find a file "updatecfg.txt". That file contains the line "twipe_data". That command will wipe the data partition with all your post installed apps and updates of system apps. The data partition also contains all config and data of all apps.

And of course: Before you start the firmware flash you need to remove the line and save it back to the USB-stick/SD-card.

In practice: don't do it! Experience from the past on the Sofia and PX5 units learn that especially the Joying part is not stable and might lead to an often crashing/rebooting system as they change settings occasionally. Of course Google/AOSP defined a nice process how to migrate old settings config to new settings config, if an upgraded apk detects older settings, but Joying (actually FYT/SYU, the hardware/software/MCU supplier) does not use that.

As you might already have read: The way you configure the leds on the hardware buttons has changed. That means a different configuration, and even such a simple thing might lead to an unstable system.

So again: Don't do it and accept you have to reinstall/reconfigure.

Edit: But maybe you are lucky :). Please test and share your experience with all :cool:
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
I have rooted and checked google assistant is working.

If anybody interested in rooting:

extract root.zip file to root of the usb, the unit will restart and install automatically then you can install the magisk manager from the attachments, conrags you have rooted.
[FYT Android Head Units] thierry34:
thanks,

if i test and don't work, can i repeat the upgrade with the "twipe data" ?
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
Of course :)

Ps: i am updating my unit with "all data" for better stability hence setting up the unit takes 10 mins or so...
[FYT Android Head Units] thierry34:
to update; i copy the unzipped file in a usb key and i put it in the joying unit. is it ok?
[FYT Android Head Units] Caroline_Don:
Hello, how make the ok google to work?
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
Yes, extract the zip which you downloaded to the root of the usb and plug it to the unit, update will start automatically. Also if you insist not to use twipe or all data function then i suggest you to after update clear the apps cache and data in settings>apps section if you encounter any stability or app crash problem.

Just search "assistant" in play store then install it, it is working with august update even with root.
[FYT Android Head Units] fabien_m2002:
Hello

what's new with the august firm release?
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Search. It's only one page back.

Julien mentioned it.
[FYT Android Head Units] le_p:
Hi,

The reversing grid lines disappeared after an update from the original firmware (and options no longer available). Is there a way to get these grid lines back?

Thanks in advance.
[FYT Android Head Units] elabjer:
Ahh, Joying. I've updated to 8-14 and have "lost" about 20% of R in RGB :(

I have an Alfa Romeo that has its interior illumination in red (gauges, et al), so I've set everything to red in my Airmont Joying as well.. immediately after update reboot I noticed that my boot logo isn't as red as it should be, although once the unit boots up colors seem fine (more or less anyway). EXCEPT for the bloody side panel - there's just no way to set it to a proper red tone anymore. I can get a pinkish white at best and it's driving me crazy. It seems that they've messed up the MCU in this respect and also the color wheel in factory settings, cause observing the RGB values I can select, it's impossible to set the RGB @ 255,0,0. (at the very perimeter its about 255,10,12)

I've tried communicating this to Joying, but I gave up on my 3rd attempt, to preserve my mental sanity.. you just go in circle with them, ie: "please make choosing color red in menu".. "but it's not proper red".. "trouble you to choose color you like".. etc. (I deal with Chinese often in my line of work and already know that some things are just impossible to communicate.. either it gets lost in translation or they simply play dumb).

Does anybody know a way to fix this? Where is this stored on the unit? (maybe I can try manually feeding it 255.0.0).
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
Hi, as i mentioned in my previous another post, they broke the side panel illumination as well while fixing other things. For the moment there is no fix except when you turn on the lights it reverts to your selection when you turn off it becomes other color. Also panel lights stays illuminated for 5 mins when you turn off ignition.

I have mailed with them 5 times to make them understand the situation and every time they are blaming me and saying my configuration is wrong or by over sighting my 20 years of software and hardware knowledge they state that i am not capable to do basic tuning. After furious e-mailing finally they said "we will feedback our engineer" :laugh:

So all we need to do is be strong about our standing to them and report the problems, if enough people do that then they are taking seriously of their development.

If only 2 or 3 users report the bugs and rest of all just watch and wait for the solution then i am sorry we have to wait forever. I hope everybody is in the same page with me in this manner.

cheers.
[FYT Android Head Units] elabjer:
Yeah man, one really needs nerves of steel when dealing with most Chinese support personnel. In my office we have to deal with them on a regular basis (we develop middleware that integrates with various 3rd parties, many of them based in China) and when a new Chinese client gets scheduled, we all try to avoid dealing with them at all cost.. it's at the point that our managers use assigments to Chinese clients as a form of punishment ?

I agree with your suggestion tho - please, others - do address your grievances to them. I suspect that if enough of us do it will escalate to higher-ups in their hierarchy and our issues might get addressed.
[FYT Android Head Units] davemazo:
I've just been in contact with Joying to see if the August firmware (I asked about the 14/8/19) is suitable for my unit. It's a JY-VO131N4GS (SC9853i 4Gb/64Gb 9" screen) and received the following reply :-

"Now the 8-19 firmware has some bugs.

Please wait for some time and update. our engineer is working on the updated files.

Hope your well-understanding."

They don't explain what the bugs are
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Also "funny" is that they mention the 8-19 firmware.

The build date is 8-14 (I already completely unpacked the firmware), unless they already produced another firmware version which they did not publicly release yet.

Or it is just a typo.
[FYT Android Head Units] ricanxd:
Surprisingly my dealings with them weren't as bad as some of you. Good thing was that person I spoke to actually asked for pictures and videos so that he saw what I was telling him. I mistakenly ordered a px5 unit and it had issues from day one. Capacitive back button wasn't functioning. It registered the actual touch but wouldn't actually perform the back command. They tried sending a new screen, and after update attempts (last update got it stuck in a boot loop, not even SD update tool could recover it), I just offered to pay the difference for the Intel unit. That px5 unit was jacked up. I'm much happier now with the Intel unit.

Question, is there anyway to get a non-joying DVR camera to work with these? I have a dashcam that worked with the px5 unit, but I haven't been able to get it to work with this unit.
[FYT Android Head Units] elabjer:
"Pale red saga", continued..

So, the pale red colour my unit started exhibiting after the 8-14 update bothered me way too much, so I decided to downgrade.. first I tried making a hybrid flash by substituting the new MCU binary in 8-14 with the previous one from April. That didn't work. Then I tried flashing 6-21 and got my side panel illumination to work as expected (I was able to set it to proper red), however - to my surprise the Android UI was still showing this "pale red" (ie: in the original "Google" boot animation). So I tried flashing the 6-21 with twipe_all and that still didn't work ?

I find this peculiar, as I thought that twipe_all means a completely clean start. Apparently it doesn't. Consequently, my custom boot logo was also showing pale red colours until I re-did it. But, all other "system" elements still use this pale red colour, instead of true red. (I applied a Substratum theme that changes the system accent colour to red and this was a true red until my 8-14 update.. now it doesn't matter even if I regenerate all the overlays from scratch - it somehow keeps pulling this annoying pale red color from somewhere.. and it's driving me crazy. FML)

Does anyone have an idea how to totally wipe the unit? twipe_all doesn't seem to cut it. (I also pushed some LCD configuration from one of the older versions, but to no avail)
[FYT Android Head Units] davemazo:
I managed to get my after market dashcam fitted to my Skoda Superb working with this item from Audio Tech Direct

https://audiotechdirect.com/direct-fit-vw076-oem-rear-camera-video-decoder-for-vw/

I don't know what car you have but they might have something to fit to your car
[FYT Android Head Units] ricanxd:
Thanks, but my camera is USB. What I'm thinking is that they have left out the APK for the dash cam. I was looking at the one they sell, and the directions say to connect camera and then APK file becomes available. I think maybe they put the file in their brand cam? I'll have to try to install a dashcam app to see if it works. Anyone have a copy of the DVR APK for this unit?
[FYT Android Head Units] lucas456:
Hello. I'm new and actually amateur to android. but I bought an Isudar h53 unit in my Rapid 2014 which seems to be a cp sp9853i and just want to ask if there is any possibility for the radio to start faster. because when I pull out the key, the radio switches off but after about 5 minutes it will restart all over again. is there any possibility to do it as on PX5 units where it can stand still one day with a quick start?
[FYT Android Head Units] kouklo:
I installed the latest joying update and after rooting and installing magisk, I was able to install AINUR AUDIO ( https://xdaforums.com/android/software/soundmod-ainur-audio-t3450516 ) I have been using it for over a year now on my phone, its a massive improvement in audio! I literally just installed it so I havent had a chance to mess around with it yet but I figured a few of you might want to know.
[FYT Android Head Units] spiker88:
I've seen a couple posts asking about steering wheel controls. Most are regarding oem buttons, but FWIW it was very easy to add a universal SWC kit from amazon with a wireless receiver in the dash and two sets of buttons stuck onto the SW. Not the cleanest looking but it's so much nicer having some buttons to control volume, track, go home, etc. Though I wish Joying gave a few more function options (like "back").

I couple questionsL

1) When I first set up my SWC, I swear the track forward button scrolled through radio presets. Now it just changes the frequency. Anyone know if it's possible to scroll through radio presets instead?

EDIT: solved. In the joying SWC programming interface, there are options for track forward/back and [track forward + answer call], and [back + end call]. Selecting the track forward/back functions only achieves what I wanted. When used in the radio app, the track forward button will jump to the next preset.

2) OK google used to launch assistant without pressing my steering wheel button for voice control. After swapping out my mental box and re-configuring everything, it doesn't. Any idea what setting I messed up?

Edit: Once in driving mode in google maps, assistant opens by saying OK Google, no need to press the voice control button. Maybe this is always how it was?

as an aside: I've been using my new American Mental Box for a week now on Google Fi. I get data service most places, definitely better than the original European one I received. It says 4G and is fast enough to load maps and stream music, but is an order of magnitude slower than my pixel on Verizon LTE when I do a speed test (noticeable when downloading). But it's great not having to tether constantly.
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
Hi, today i got an e-mail from joying as below;

Dear friend,

According to the button light problems, there is a resolved file come out, please check and update: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_Hfn-vFb0MDqeWOzqC9Jn3JI2HRj3F_0

I have downloaded and examined the files by checking crc sha-256 and all of them identical as 14-08-2019 update except Stm32ud.bin file which is mcu. So no need to download again 1gb update file for update. Just extract below attached file and put them in to the usb then unit will update itself without loss of data. You can keep all the settings without losing anything.

Normally joying should advise above procedure to prevent unnecessary loss of time instead every time advising full update but i already lowered my expectations :D

Cheers.
[FYT Android Head Units] thierry34:
hello, has someone do a tweak to install a rad or a fan on the intel processor ? i think it is a good idea because when i use waze, after 15/20 mn, waze freeze .
[FYT Android Head Units] rackxp:
Can anyone tell me how the apple carplay is on these units? any issues or it works 100%.
[FYT Android Head Units] yzf750:
Well I just flashed your file and no longer have any button lights working after reboot.. Guess I have to go back to the original aug firmware and reflash and set everything up again.
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
I can confirm that light is working as it should be after update, have you tried re-adjust the light already ?

If it is not working try to clear settings app data and cache. If not then you have to do a factory reset. There is no point re-install the august firmware again hence they are both identical files.
[FYT Android Head Units] CZ Eddie:
Could you post more details please?
[FYT Android Head Units] spiker88:
Sure, about what specifically?
[FYT Android Head Units] Cr4z33:
Can you share please the Amazon links for the products you bought?
[FYT Android Head Units] marcus82:
hi all, I've just bought this HU for FORD FOCUS ST 2015, it's my second tesla style after a px3!

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/32840256966.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.26c84c4dOSKsjH (TS 4G model)

I'm waiting for the right wires to have rear camera and swc working (I hope!), but I have other issues:

1- are you using external microphone to speak?? i have a lot of noise and interferences during call

2-are you obliged to use small speaker given with the radio for the parking sensors?!

3-how it works the split of the screen????? I want waze on the top and android auto on the second half... maybe it's better to change launcher..?
[FYT Android Head Units] hawkjm73:
Would anybody running the latest firmware with root be willing to check if Google Play Music can now actually play songs while root is active? It's been broken for a while, and I was hoping whatever fixed the Google Assistant fixed music playback as well. Just haven't quite decided if it's worth starting fresh to find out.

If it's going to fail, it waits all the way through setup untill you try to play a song, then gives an oh-so-specific error about failed playback.
[FYT Android Head Units] spiker88:
This is what I bought.

The instructions on the amazon page are wrong, but the unit comes with correct instructions. The receiver has 4 wires.

Key1

Key2

ACC power

Ground
[FYT Android Head Units] c0rnelone:
I'm having the issue with the lights. Did anyone solve it? How?

Thanks
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
Although they are sharing the same cpu but they have different design parts and build techniques so we can not compare it with joying products however to answer your questions;

1-joying is using TRRS type microphone which differs from other head units types but seems fine for the moments

2-simple answer is yes hence parking sensors are communicating with their specific speaker only

3-split screen is a default feature of android 8.1/9 so if you want it just press open apps shortcut on the top right status bar and keep pressed while dragging the app that you wanted keep in the right pane, same for the left app..

read the last couple of pages then you will have your answer...
[FYT Android Head Units] marcus82:
thanks for the answer!!!

now my priority is understand my interferences issue... no gps, no DAB and no WIFI.. maybe the 4g antenna are disturbing all
[FYT Android Head Units] lnfcrs:
I also downloaded latest update from joying website and flashed. Now I also dont have any lights on by buttons. For me, the best update was 6-21, will try install it now. Also, after one of the update my YouTube app wont show picture anymore, there is sound, but picture is black. If I open youtube via Chrome everything works here, but in youtube app still no picture, tried to delete updates = no joy :rolleyes:
[FYT Android Head Units] lnfcrs:
Flashed 6-21 update, youtube and everything else works great now, but buttons still black, MCU update wont go that easily. When restarting device, buttons glow in every color(like loop enabled), but when home screen appears, they go black. Settings time and light control do nothing and changing color cant be saved, always goes to blue color. Not like a biggest issue for me as I use Joying SWC anyway. Atleast they dont change color randomly anymore when I start my car lol.

I will stick to 6-21 for couple month and will wait for reasonbly good update if that ever happens :)
[FYT Android Head Units] spiker88:
Does anyone know how to hide notifications (without disabling them entirely for a given app?)

I am unable to select the setting (gear icon) that appears when I slide a notification sideways, so I can't even minimize a notification.
[FYT Android Head Units] yzf750:
Yep each time Joying trys to fix something they just create more bugs. This is so annoying, I cant see any of of buttons at night now. 6-21 worked great, headlights on and buttons would light up. Nothing now no matter what you try to do.
[FYT Android Head Units] julien_blanche:
08/19 update is running perfectly fine on my unit and it should be same on all other units if you are not doing something wrong.

If you are experiencing any problem you should do an update (06/19) with twipe_all in config file and then install 08/19 update with twipe_data in config file. That will move you from current unstable system to a new fresh stable updated unit as mine.

BTW, joying has published updated version of the mcu on their website. Also zlink updated to ver 3.3.0 in august firmware.
[FYT Android Head Units] c0rnelone:
I tried reflashing, wipe data, factory reset and It didnt work.

I reflash the aug update.

What am I missing?