[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] unh1nged:
Didn't I say it would happen in my very last sentence? Either I'm a fortune teller or ignorance and close mindedness are rather predictable.

[Sarcasm] Oh yes, you eloquently, and quite amazingly retorted my comment with a reply full of spelling and grammar errors, thusly proving me wrong and yourself right on every subject that was touched upon in 10 broken, run-on sentences, lacking remotely proper punctuation/grammar and... sense. [/S]At least you're consistent. [Sarcasm] Because clearly when you end with "there's nothing left to be said", gee whiz... that cannot be refuted by simply pointing out how wrong you are in almost every sentence.

Or can it? ...Well, at least that leaves you open to, at the most, only 9 wrong sentences.[/S]

Nothing left to be said?

Yes, you've definitely summed everything up succinctly, with the ineptitude of a Dr Evil guard. I partially agree with you on one point. But not so much that there's nothing left to be said, but rather nothing should have been said in the first place. You challenge things I said, but when I offer clear reasons for my opinion (which is all I ever claim, because we are all free to them, and if we aren't able to explain our opinions, then why do we even have them?), you don't acknowledge it. And instead of accepting my opinion and agreeing to disagree, your points are merely semantics or just plain inaccurate. And instead of realizing your mistakes, you completely ignore them and try a different and just as pointless attempt to try to prove you're right about something. As I said in response to your earlier objection, I was never challenging your opinion, so much as your method by which you expressed it. Telling someone to get over something and move on, is none of your business. Suggesting it doesn't hurt, and still offers people the respect to make their own minds up about it. You greatly condescend in your comments, despite simultaneously proving how little you know, with your attempts to defend your position.

First sentence: I wasn't pointing to anything. You asked where I got the idea about Bootloader 2 being an issue to the rooting method offered here, so I replied.

Second sentence: You say you agree with it, yet the reason I stated that is because you asked me where I got that idea in post #623: "and where do u get that what ever means of actually rooting will no longer work on BL rev 2?"

Third sentence: If "its a know(known) fact", then why did you ask me where I got that idea?(#623 again)

Fourth sentence: That was never your point, this is the first time you even asked that question, and that would be something you could ask in the thread. Still trying to understand why if you feel everyone should "move on", you haven't yet?

Fifth sentence: Because trying things is how you find out what works and what doesn't. I feel like I'm in kindergarten explaining that. Also this type of method has been used to root phones, but with the changes that Samsung and or Android make, which they make in response to such loopholes that devs work their asses off to exploit for our benefit, new methods have to be combined with older successful methods, or altogether new. Without trying things that they have hunches might work, and then if it doesn't, trying again a slightly altered version of the initial attempt, is the method that has resulted in ALL successful rooting attempts. The purposed method has countless variables at each juncture that have to be manually written and altered hundreds or thousands of times until they find the magic route to root. It takes time. And these guys are not paid for this, have families and lives. So sometimes the project stagnates for a time.

Sixth sentence: No, and I never said that. But a lot of rooting methods are figured out for the released firmware at the time they started working on it, because it's predictable for them to keep chopping on that tree until it falls. If they move to a new firmware that has changes, then they may not be able to continue with their original plan, and the new changes might be out of their scope, or impossible to get by. So they continue working on that release. Then SCORE. They get root. So they need people to come back to that release, to attain root using their method. If they are able to update or adjust their method to root newer firmware, then they usually try that first before releasing the root method. But sometimes they don't have the time or resources. With Bootloader 2 being a whole new ball of wax, and it now has the ability to regress firmware, the rooting process is in danger because the trial and error for the dev will be much more confined in time spans and may be impossible. With Bootloader 1, having the option to regress or come forward on firmware versions, it increases the opportunity for the rooting method to work. And sometimes only 1 firmware of a series has an error that can be exploited. So then they need the users to be able to change to the firmware that they were able to get through, in order to attain root.

Seventh and Eighth sentences (which technically should be one sentence with a comma where the period is): The combo isn't the only thing it works on, it's likely just the easier method. So I am not sure that's remotely accurate. But again I say "not sure" because I try to never speak in a "matter of fact" tense at any point, unless I am 100% sure it's correct.

Nineth(?) sentence: When was I trying to do that? I was never making statements from the beginning about rooting methods, or anything specifically related to the thread itself. I objected to your tone and the nerve of your claim to know what's best for other people, based on inaccurate info. The inaccurate info was secondary. I still don't know why you keep coming back to the thread. Do you not even take your own advice and "move on"? I'm not going anywhere because I am actually interested in the thread, and will be checking it regularly as I have been, keeping my hopes up for a rooting method for my Note 9 until it's rooted or turns to dust. So thanks but, I'm "Good", but there will be no "Riddance".

Last sentence: I implore you to quote anything I have said that gives the impression that I think that combo firmware are daily drivers? Usually the combo firmware is a jump off point to get the phone rooted. Once rooted you can install Custom ROMs. Like, seriously, read some threads about the sh!t bro.

I don't actually care if you entertain this "conversation" or not. Conversations are interactive communications between two people. Very little interactivity, in any valuable way here. It's certainly offering no value to the thread, in fact, it's taking away from it. I think you've proven your responses baseless and lacking any point all by yourself. But if you can't see or what's more important, admit your mistakes when you make them, it's just beating a dead iPhone. Or owning a working one.

Anyways, I never said anything to offend you. You imagined that all by yourself. I am sorry if I wasn't more clear in my initial statement, however. I thought I was, but obviously this is a plethora of evidence that I in fact, did not. Although I have now pointed out what my issue was with your initial comment multiple times and you don't seem to register it. So I think I've given enough patience and time to this effort.

I'm done now. *Burns case*

---------- Post added at 02:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:55 PM ----------

Apologies to anyone who wasted time reading the back and forth there, and to elliwigy.

elliwigy (Glad I get to type that, and not try to pronounce it... wut) Keep working hard bro. You'll get it man. I've gots the confidences ins ya.