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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] seesser:
Has anyone looked into being able pull a full image of a tablet with older Firmware and pushing it to tablet stuck in newest firmware. Can we do a "dd" low end push on the fire hd 10 "2021" model?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I would think you would have better luck doing a full nandroid backup with SPFT and WwR and trying to rewrite the ROM, but then I've read that there are problems booting the newer tablets into DL mode. I don't believe removing the battery works anymore. I've also read that Amazon has put in blocks to downgrading. Then there's the issue of E-fuses.........

Edit: There's a thread about it here.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Regarding your edit, I believe you might need Amazon Newsstand enabled for Kindle and Kindle Store to function properly.

Falcon got it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DavidInNH:
Thanks for the assistance!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] middle_road:
Thoughts - Opinions on purchasing?

Looks like the Fire HD8 Plus is 50% off currently.

In an attempt to avoid 7.3.2.2, I'm debating which 'version' to purchase for the Wife, the Ad-Supported one, or the one without.

She's been using my old Samsung, but the charging port is going bad, and I'm tired of trying to keep it charged up.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] soopx:
I had this issue with my Pixel and the pixel before it - turns out it was just actually stuffed full of lint. Try poking around inside the port with a sewing needle. If nothing else you might be able to resell it easier.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] i.REN:
Don't use anything metal. I did that with my father's old phone and it wouldn't charge or even power the device after that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] soopx:
That's fair. Mine was USB-C, but if you have anything previous, there's a distinct possibility of shorting the voltage rail to ground I guess.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
In the event that it it's not lint, check ebay for parts. It may be fairly cheap to replace the charging port. There's youtube videos on almost everything so investigate how difficult it is to change.

If you do decide to grab a Fire tablet, choose a less popular color to increase the likelihood of getting one pre-7.2.2.2. A case covers even the most hideous colors! Also, don't forget to uncheck the box to link it to your account. (It's ALWAYS checked by default.) Choose the ad-supported version as you can always pay them $15 to remove the ads or sweet-talk them into a free ad removal. Always disable OTA updates and automatic updates before connecting your WiFi. (When you get to the connect to WiFi screen, choose any wifi but don't give it a password. Instead just go back one screen and a new option to skip will now be there. Use it and compete setup. Then use the Toolbox to make it your own.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DarkBlowRD:
Recently acquiring a Fire HD10 2021, which was given to me, and unfortunately it was already updated, I hope a solution to the custom home is found, it would be the best, thanks to the developers for their hard work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LeetCode:
I just purchased a Fire HD 10 plus Monday with ads....it arrived yesterday with 7.3.2.1 -- maybe they have older inventory on the plus's models. Follow blaacksheep's advice and you should be good. The Fire HD plus is like having a 400.00 Android tablet. (once you run it thru the Fire Toolbox of course)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Here's Jonny:
Is there anyway to remove 'Shop Amazon' and replace it with 'Amazon Shopping' from the play store ?

Amazon Shopping registers more URLs so opens for more links.

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] middle_road:
I've had good luck since black Friday with my HD8+ and my buddy's HD10+, they both were pre 7.3.2.2

Just want to get the wife something for her to 'read' on and surf with at night.

I'm about to wipe my old Gen7 HD8 and 'ToolBox' it but it's battery isn't lasting very long.

For cleaning out ports this is a good bet:

didn't work on the Samsung, port is wore out and one contact lead is a tad mangled.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] middle_road:
I use to enjoy breaking open these devices and replacing parts, however the ol' hands are shaking and soldering is a bit tough and the eyesight requires magnification.

Replaced a screen and a USB micro port on a friend's LG tablet several months back, it's getting a bit tedious unfortunately.

All the posts I've read in this thread and I missed that you could pay to have ADS removed? ...

I'm observant aren't I? 😎

The HD8+ is only available in 'Slate', I think I'm going to go extra for W/O and cross my fingers.

I'd rather have the extra GB of RAM. That's the problem with the drawer full of old HP Touchpads and others that I have - only 1GB of RAM.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tlsrulz?:
Thanks Falcon342.. works great.. any option for a gallery to view the pictures / videos. I'm sure it came with something.. but I did a full debloat so it took it out. Just need something basic so the stock one would do if there is a command to enable it .. Really love the work done here.

Edit.. when I click on the photo icon on the side.. I get a popup saying "Photos Blocked.. you can unblock it in Parental Conrols.. however my parental controls is disabled !"
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, as we grow older, the electronics become more microscopic and tedious to work with. I'm still of the mind to do it myself if possible. But if not, then I grudgingly shell out the cash for someone else to do it or buy a newer device.

Just another reminder: Uncheck that box that says "Link this device to my Amazon account"! Don't connect to WiFi until you've run toolbox to disable updates.

Good luck in getting a pre-7.3.2.2. :cowboy:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LeetCode:
Hey guys. I have one Fire HD10 I want to return that I ran all of the Fire Toolkit stuff on, (I have another)...is there anything I have to do to return it to default other than "reset to factory defaults " under device options ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Here's Jonny:
Thanks. I tried that and got the same. I was hoping there would be either a work around or a way to add more links for the app to recognise.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LeetCode:
Does anyone know how to get rid of the "You must be signed in to the Amazon Appstore to run this app" message when I try to use Disney plus ? I mean I *could* sign in to the amazon appstore but I would prefer not to being I will never use it. Netflix does not do this. I downloaded both off using the Fire Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sanas24:
How can I use automate to remove the adds and re-route the home key ?

Its pretty anoying to always use a pc for it
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DarkBlowRD:
Can somebody help me? I'm on the latest version and I try to use the Re-route Homekey but it doesn't work for me, has it happened to someone else?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nookin:
I limit to install just the game I play and FireFox. 3 hr Memory usage shows:

my game uses 1.3GB, max 1.5GB.

Android OS using 892MB, max 892MB.

System 144MB, max 169MB.

Another "System" with what looks like a "P" symbol that uses 129MB, max 129MB.

Google Play services, 122MB, max 192MB.

I am not sure how Android manages its memory, like if any usage were actually cache since unused memory is wasted memory.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
How's it going my friend?

Here's a tutorial for setting up the adblocker in Automate. As for the re-route method it requires commands that I don't think automate can run with the proper permissions. Currently looking into a method to run the commands on device so a PC isn't required.🤞
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kn0wsk1ll:
so i got a refurbished hd 8 plus. its running 7.3.2.2. does that mean the tool wont work?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] obvious:
I thought I'd give this a go on my HD 10 2019 running 7.3.1.7 but when I go to the update menu it only shows the option "check now" which when clicked demands wifi be connected. It doesn't seem to pick up the update file in top level internal storage.

Maybe it has to have a certain name or be in another directory or its the wrong file for my device or I can push via adb?

Ah, it's the HD10 plus file lol
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] obvious:
Thanks. I got I up to 7.3.2 1 using https://drivers.softpedia.com/get/T...-9th-Generation-Tablet-Firmware-7-3-2-1.shtml
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LeetCode:
OK, I am curious, why is the Amazon Appstore Disney+ version the one that is downloaded with the fire toolbox vs the Google Play APK ? I got the app from the Fire Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Venvalur:
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Just curious. What is superior about the 7.3.2.1 update over the 7.3.1.9?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
The only real difference between the two versions is the frameworks they utilize. The Play Store version will obviously require Google's framework service, while the Amazon version requires Amazon's framework (and libraries). Really, the Hybrid Apps versions are primarily there for the folks who either don't want Play Services/can't run Play Services effectively, but also don't want to register the tablet to download Disney/Netflix from the Amazon Appstore.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings my friend!

Forgive my curiosity, but when you say "rollback to stock" what do you mean by that? Were you running a custom rom before flashing stock again?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
The Toolbox will work for the most part. Unfortunately, The Toolbox won't be able to disable OTA Updates, Fire Launcher or Special Offers (lockscreen ads). Custom Launchers can still be used, but the rerouting must be applied after every reboot. Overall, 7.3.2.2 wasn't the best of updates... :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Isn't Android usually pretty good at managing RAM?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tlsrulz?:
K.. so I setup fire10 for my daughter.. but now I cannot delete my Google account from it .. and see from some threads here dating back to 2015 the only way is to reset to factory, then toolbox it again, and NOT add my Google account in the first place..

Has there been any updates to this ?

I saw one video but it needs to be rooted ..to delete the accounts.db file. 😞
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tlsrulz?:
Yea that was also specified in the thread .. but it does not remove the account .. just signs you out .. then the tablet says you have a pending notification to sign back in...

found it

https://xdaforums.com/t/cant-log-out-of-google-account.3270543/

So if this is the case then I will proceed with a reset and not using my gmail on the tablet.

Wish there was a way to wipe all gmail without doing a restore to factory .. For kids school every semester they get assigned a google account for google classroom.. and if I need to cleanup the tablet this means I'll be doing factory resets each semester.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LeetCode:
Hey guys. I installed Gmail on my Fire HD 10 and everything seems to work OK but I can't seem to get the chat and spaces component of Gmail to work. When I try to enable it in Gmail app, it crashes the Gmail App.

Any suggestions ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LeetCode:
Yes, I have both of those covered. , The google chat app crashes on its own on launch. Gmail crashes when I enable chat in gmail.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] janusatienza:
Hi!

I'm basically new here. just trying to download google play store on my son's fire hd 10 Fire OS 7.3.2.2. Unfortunately I can't install it. kept receiving this error:

Please help. My son keeps bugging about installing google playstore. he wants to download games that he's playing. Thank you!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] janusatienza:
Hi @Falcon342 ! Thank you for helping. I was already able to install it earlier. Just deleted all the apk files. Just did the task manager and saw that the toolbox is still running that's why I was not able to delete them all earlier. Anyway, thank you for the very quick reply!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] zigner:
Ran this on my new HD 8 (2020) on 7.3.2.2 and ran the bloat delete with the keep Amazon store list. Then I did a couple of the other small changes using the kit. Now I don't have a keyboard. Only the Voice keyboard is available (no other option). What do I need to do to get a screen keyboard back?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can re-enable the fire keyboard by using the Toolkit by going to Manage Amazon Apps > [Manual tab] Simple, and enable 'Fire Keyboard'.

Or, you can instead use ADB Shell and type in

pm enable --user 0 com.amazon.redstone

Alternatively, you can install a third-party keyboard like Gboard from the Playstore.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] zigner:
Thanks, that did the trick! I assume the Fire Keyboard was removed with other Fire app choices I made. Before posting, I did try to find a 3rd party keyboard on the Google Play store, but without a keyboard, I couldn't get one to come up in App search for me to install.

Glad you put in those details about Manual tab, Simple. Made it much easier to find, and I see this would be the best option to restore an app or two without having to create an input file with list of apps.

Thanks so much for your timely response!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm not sure what debloat list you used, but the thing to do is make sure you have an alternate keyboard app installed first. Now that you have the Fire keyboard enabled, you can install a third-party keyboard from the playstore or another source if you wish.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] zigner:
Very good idea. Maybe the Utility can mention that recommendation as part of the initial run. I used a debloat list that was one of the three default lists that comes in the Utility, the one that excludes the Amazon App Store from the removal. I see Kindle is in that remove list, but had no idea that this would remove the default keyboard!

I have the Google keyboard installed now and have it set as the default.

I got this tablet for $30 at Kohls last week for another family member.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] shogan454:
I have several games for my kids that I've paid for in the Amazon app store. Can I somehow still use the Amazon app store to get those, or are they effectively lost, to get the benefit of the debloat and cleaner tablet experience?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
AFAIK, you'll need to re-enable the Amazon App store in order to grab those games and their paid status. If you have removed all your Amazon accounts from the tablet, you'll also have to re-enable Shop Amazon. You'll have to use Shop Amazon in order to sign into Amazon. Then any other Amazon apps (that require sign in) will work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tlsrulz?:
Falcon342, can you please confirm that a factory reset is the only way to delete all google accounts, as I highlighted my issue in post 8023
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] vasska:
first of all, let me give massive thanks to the developer, who has allowed me to make new use of a kindle 8 that was gathering dust. i followed the instructions and the guided tour, and everything seems to be working well. i think i was fortunate that i started using the toolbox before i allowed my old kindle to connect to wifi, which probably prevented a bad automatic "down"date.

one thing i've noticed is that links on webpages do not open in the play store. i think the kindle is still trying to open the links in the amazon app store (which i have hidden with the toolbox). clicking such links briefly opens a new blank tab, i see some amazon warning message flash (too briefly for me to read), and then the new blank tab closes itself. the play store never opens, and the app never downloads.

is there a way to configure the kindle, so that links in chrome open directly in the play store? so far as i can tell, i can search for and install the apps directly in the play store, but it's mildly inconvenient and i'd love to be able to skip that step.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] vasska:
thanks Falcon! however, that settings menu does not exist on my device.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jinx100:
My Fire 8 has a setting in Apps and Notifications/Default apps/Opening links/Instant apps - Open links in apps, even if they're not installed. Maybe switching this to off would help.

Below that are the installed apps which can be set to: Open in this app/Ask every time/Don't open in this app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cocokola:
I still have an issue. I need to switch my google account, but when I select "ad another account" google play store exits.

Ideally, I want to remove all google config and start over, any advice?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cocokola:
Thanks, everyone for all your help, and thanks OP for the awesome tool.

Below are my discoveries I made reading for a few hours and might help someone new, there are three ways to get around this error, and the 3rd method was the only way it worked for me.

Note to all: Fire HD 2012 can NOT(*) receive calls from any VOIP application, including Google voice, skype, ooVoo, Viber, talkatone, tango etc. It seems there is some google software missing. It DOES work on older HD 10 Fire 2017 for example. go figure!​

*unless you were lucky enough to install hangouts before it got hacked up)​

THINGS TO CHECK:​

I want to pass along a way to bypass this problem when there are emulators running. The strange thing is I do NOT have any emulator software installed, I did have vysor.io that I had to kill, yet I got an emulator listed. I am not sure if it is the windows 11 preview/beta channel that is supposed to have android emulation/store available natively or it was an old emulator I did some programming a long time ago I forgot?

HOW TO RESOLVE (Method 1)​

In any case, there is an easier way around problems than others, like with fire cube on the network, emulators, etc.

0) Try rebooting your fire tablet and windows to start from a clean state

1 ) Exit the toolbox completely.

2) Open an elevated command prompt (task manager, file -> run task ->check 'run as admin; CMD.EXE

Android detects emulators is by scanning ports starting at port 5555. The port number to check is the emulator port number plus 1, so if your error shows an emulator on port number 5777 then look for 5778 in the next step

3) run:

netstat -a -n -o | Select-String ":55"

you will get output like this:

TCP 127.0.0.1:5563 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING 26464

TCP 127.0.0.1:5563 127.0.0.1:58812 ESTABLISHED 26464

4) 26464 is the PID, go back to task manager, select details tab, sort by PID (you may need to right-click on NAME and check the box to add PID if you removed), look for the numbers bolded above in this example.

HOW TO RESOLVE (Method 2)​

if you can't find adb: (NOTE: the version number may have changed)

cd %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Datastream\Fire Toolbox V26.1\adb

Kill the task(s) in the task manager, or to brute force the kill on the command line:

adb kill-server

HOW TO RESOLVE (Method 3)​

To get my device to work, I had to force it by setting the device as I still had an emulator, no bluestak or anything else running, but it still refused to run. IF you have a unit that is jailbroken previously, mine would not connect.

Assuming you opened an admin command prompt from above

NOTE: the version number may have changed

1) adb devices

copy the code for the android device you want to connect from the above command

2) set ANDROID_SERIAL= <code>

3 cd %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Datastream\Fire Toolbox V26.1\

4) "Fire Toolbox.exe"

as long as you keep the cmd window open, you can run the tool without issue or conflict.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Batavian:
Thank you developers for this fine product. It makes the Fire so much more usable.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] vasska:
for posterity:

it looks like there is nothing that can make my kindle fire HD 8 (6th gen, running 5.6.8.0) open app links in the google play store.

i can temporarily kill the appstore by going to settings > apps & games > manage all applications, but it will always relaunch itself.

i can also go to settings > amazon application settings > appstore > external market links and set to "don't open," but with this setting, links to the google play store give an "external market links disabled" error, with no option to open the link in google play.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tlsrulz?:
Thanks Falcon342.. I had to do a uninstall Google Services then reinstall and then only add the accounts I want ..

Does this have something to do with how Google implements this.. or is this Amazon causing this issue of not allowing account management ? just curious ..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tlsrulz?:
See my post above
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] M973:
First of all, awesome program! Just got my Fire HD 10 about a week ago

A few questions if it's ok:

I'm on OS 7.3.2.2 unfortunately

Is it possible in the future Amazon can fully disable any way to sideload apps? If they disabled the option install from unknown sources, if there would still be a way to install my own apk files, so I could still have Chrome browser, not Silk and some of my own apps (SwiftKey keyboard, etc)

Using the toolkit I disabled most of the Amazon bloat and disabled Alexa, but when I use the recents/app switcher (which I wonder if there's a way to use a different app switcher, difficult to use as a task manager) but when I exit the app I switch to, I get this screen, which I'm able to get back to the home screen by hitting the home button.

Much thanks in advance!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] M973:
Thanks -I was thinking it might just be part of the setup tour, but I was reluctant to try
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Rayearthen:
Sorry - I'm having an issue where when I try to sign into my Google account in almost any app, the the window collapses and it just fails

Is this a known thing and is there a work around?

Thanks! I love this tool, it made my kids Amazon fires much more usable
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chong67:
Just bought the HD 8 new for $38 with tax. I will checking this toolbox and this thread. Thank you!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Do not allow it to connect to your wifi and update itself. Run toolbox on it first to disable ota updates and automatic updates. Otherwise you'll be one of the people that have 7.3.2.2 installed and will be unable to remove lockscreen ads and will be stuck with the Amazon launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Monkeymann:
Thanks for the Toolbox. Works really well. Just having an issue installing Synology DS Video. Any suggestions? Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It appears you have the .apk file already from apkpure. Why not copy it over to your tablet either by pushing it with Toolbox or using the file browser in Windows to copy it over, then tap on the .apk file in the tablet's file browser to install it. The tablet will ask you for permission to instll an unknown app with it's file browser. Grant it and it should install.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Monkeymann:
Yeah I've tried that and it just won't install. I can install it on Fire TV, Android phones etc but can't seem to get it to install on the Fire HD 10