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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rwb1104:
Just purchased a new, sealed Fire HD 8 from eBay today. For anyone who reads this and is hoping to find an "older stock" tablet that does not come pre-loaded with 7.3.2.2, look on eBay. I found one where the box looks significantly older than others, and the Fire Launcher is displaying multiple categories vs the three categories that (I assume) mean 7.3.2.2 has been loaded.

I can't guarantee that my image analysis is valid; just passing along what I've seen.

Edit: the photo on the box shows multiple categories for the launcher...hope I didn't confuse anyone.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
First, turn off WiFi until you've determined what version f/w you have. Next, go into Settings > Device Options > System Updates. The first line will tell you what version you're running. :)

Edit: If you have an earlier version than 7.3.2.2, run toolbox immediately, turn off OTA Updates and Automatic Updates, and count yourself lucky!😁
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thecensor:
Other sources may be craig's list and unclaimed baggage https://www.unclaimedbaggage.com/collections/shop?q=fire+hd#/sort:ss_price:asc ($15 shipping fee)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings, everyone! Hope you're all having a great day so far!

I need some help making a decision...

I'm currently working on the Google Services tool for the Python port... but unsure of which UI design to use. I'm thinking design B, but I thought I'd jump on here real quick and get some second opinions. Please let me know which UI you like better out of these two options:

A:

Spoiler content hidden.

B:

Spoiler content hidden.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
A:

But I like to see all my options and like to micro-manage everything so I can set it all up in one go. I can see where others would prefer B:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
Launcher is the way everything displays and how you interact with the launching of your apps.

There are thousands of options out there for Android. But Amazon locks it down to their own which pushes their services in your face. They removed the setting that allows you to set a default. People don't like that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Apexxcodes:
Yes I did, thank you. :good:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sasdas:
Hi, I'm having trouble restoring Kindle books, The manual restore apps doesn't have the app as an option, it has the newsstand, and when I try to install the app using play store it has an error.

Edit: Nvm just after posting this I realized what I was doing wrong. I was using "pm enable" when it should have been "pm unhide"

Launch a Temporary Root Shell

Type in pm unhide com.amazon.kindle
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] soywalker:
So, factory reset, blocked OTA updates, enabled wifi, tried to register with Amazon. Email or password fail, got code to reset password, reset password, tried registering again but again email or password fail. Is this associated with the tablet MAC address and irreparable without a telephone call to Amazon? The Kindle app brings up a need to register device note. Email informed me the loaned book was returned today.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
Can you go through wizard as normal without blocking ota. Connect to Wi-Fi during wizard. And reg during wizard?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] soywalker:
Previous iterations showed me that at that stage there's a Checking for software updates message, then registration attempt and fail.

And going to Play Strore allows login and function.

Just tried logging in using my cell, a cdma, and failed reg.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
Ya sounds like there is server issue on the back end. I would leave it untouched stock. Call Amazon to fix. Then use the tool
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] soywalker:
Wonder if using a Hawking voice simulator would be rejected when calling Amazon.

This would seem to be about my voice to them having monetary value. And they want it on my dime.

Just tried the Kindle app on a newer phone. Got to a new stage of registration, enter the difficult to read symbols... Got things to do so quit when I made a symbol data entry mistake.

Plagiarizing the Mr. Bill Show of SNL circa 1979.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok, a factory reset failed to help with registration? are you willing to try re flashing your current firmware? It could help fix things the factory reset couldn't?

In addition, I can't remember if you stated if you bought the tablet new, or if you bought a used/refurbished one?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] soywalker:
Thank you Datastream. Now that I can get back to enable USB, etc, I might try that. The tablet is new but on sale Nov. 2018 from Amazon.

I had tried flashing with an RPI3 what I thought was the firmware version, fire-OS-5.1.1-update-kindle-global-37.5.4.1_user_5411122720.bin but failed to read the file. I had thought I noticed someone just using a truncated form of the file name, e.g. #adb sideload 5.1.1 but I may have been mistaken.

soywalker

Okay, got back to trying to register with Amazon. Fire failed, somewhat better cell phone succeeded. So, it is possible to add an android device to the account. Listed as added today. Next step will be trying to flash the firmware. Is the fire-OS-5.1.1-update-kindle-global-37.5.4.1_user_5411122720.bin the correct version?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] B2Pi:
I had trouble reinstalling via Restore Everything Amazon, Manual Mode. Someplace in the thread I saw this (I think), but I could not find it.

In any case, copying bin\System Apps Remover\SystemAppsRemover.apk to adb fixes it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Cygnus212:
I'm new to XDA Developers and while browsing it, this was the first thread that got my attention since I have an Fire HD 10. I've been looking for a way to de-bloat it for a long time so I downloaded the Toolbox and used it. Overall it works wonderfully and has made me a true fan and believer in XDA Developers as well as Datastream33. Thank you so much for all your hard work on this Toolbox. Before de-bloating I thought my HD 10 was able to run games and other big apps well but now it's just wicked fast!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kctucka:
You can find up to date firmware for your device here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200529680

ADB sideload it from recovery. See this post if you have any issues connecting in recovery sideload:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64628913&postcount=2
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] soywalker:
I thought I read that using newer firmware prevents later going back to an earlier firmware.

---------- Post added at 05:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:27 PM ----------

Tried to follow the directions in the post but failed.

When the Fire is open to Home I can start Toolbox and it sees the Fire. If I then shut down to go to recovery and the second choice, adb, although the device reads ready to apply the sideload file, the Toolbox, doesn't see the Fire. If I boot the device to recovery while attached to the win7 machine and bring up sideload file, then go to Toolbox adb/adb.exe while in a command window with root privileges and run ./adb.exe devices, it doesn't see the Fire.

If I open the Toolbox while the Fire is on its home screen and Toolbox sees the Fire 10, and I go to Sideload, the browse to the .bin file after switching from look for apk files to look for all files, nothing seems to get done.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kctucka:
It does with a locked bootloader, which you likely have. I assumed you were on the latest.

If you are on earlier firmware and you have it, go ahead and sideload it. You can also find all of the Fire 10 7th gen firmware in this thread:

https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/firmware-update-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-t3926806

Don't downgrade, or you'll have to follow one of the debrick procedures.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] soywalker:
I used https://fireos-tablet-src.s3.amazona..._636558520.bin but it was called update-kindle-40.6.3.6_user_636558520.bin from the Amazon site. But running it from a command prompt #adb sideload ...bin failed because #adb devices doesn't see the fire in recovery mode sideload ready. Is that what you mean by bootloader locked?

I had first tried /bin# adb sideload ./update...bin with the .bin firmware in the .bin directory but was told the adb was wrong so went to /adb@./adb.exe after moving the firmware to the /adb directory.

trying it again just now from a command window in Toolbox /adb/ I try #.\adb devices while in recovery and no devices listed. The not authoritive for zone was coming up because I was usaing a ./ rather than a .\ because I was forgetting I was in windows not linux.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kctucka:
[MENTION=8560782]Datastream33[/MENTION] is there a way to sideload stock frimware via the toolbox? The only way I've done it before involves a command window.

I'd think you be able to hit sideload in recovery, then on the toolbox, open and run adb commands to it. You'd potentially need to reconfigure the drivers after it's in sideload mode though.

Try hitting the adb sideload in recovery, following the instructions here to get the computer to recognize the tablet in recovery sideload mode:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64628913&postcount=2

and then following the sideload instructions with the firmware.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] soywalker:
While in the sideload mode the Fire is not shown as such in Device Manager but there is a device KFSUWI - is this yours? The sideload directions don't say want to do if the Fire is not identified as a Fire.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kctucka:
Did you right click and update driver software? The post I linked discusses what to do if Device Manager isn't identifying the device when sideload is activated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] soywalker:
Watching Device Manager while 'apply update from ADB' is activated, the device KFSUWI appears so ergo it is the Fire. Attemptng to change drivers for this fails. It has no drivers installed. I attempted to change the Device Manager name reference from KFSUWI to FIRE but not an option.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ah, I see. Thank you for your input my friend! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Probably should of mentioned this, but this is what you'd first see when launching the tool with design B:

Then after clicking the "Install Play Services" button, you'd see the window as specified in post #8726.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, I see it's similar to the current design, but isn't it simpler to just have 1 screen like in B:? When I used to program things in the dark ages, I would always aim for a simpler design with fewer screens and some non-binding pre-selected defaults already chosen.

I may not represent the majority here, so I'm hoping others will respond here soon before you make your choice. :)

Edit: Wait! Now you've switched A: and B:. Now I like A:!!

I don't think it really matters as long as all the options are easily available.

Edit 2: Now they're back to the original arrangement. As Emily Litella used to say on the old Saturday Night Live: "Nevermind....."
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
@Datastream33

@nomadicdev was interested in the python code to change the launcher:

I told him to ask you because I couldn't just pass out test code without permission.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Alectryon5:
Im having a issue with my fire HD 10 that wont let me install playstore games, for this couple of months it was working perfectly, now when I open the playstore I get the message Error retrieving information from server DF-DFER-01, any news on that?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nomadicdev:
yeah, already did before this posting, no response
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Not ready to release the Python source code. But I can send you the adb commands to set a custom launcher if you wish.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PreludeInZ:
I've used the fire toolbox on my daughter's 2017 7th Generation Fire, and it seems to have disabled the pulldown toolbar somehow. Is there a specific setting associated with this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings! Let's try updating the policy control and see if that works.

On page 1 of the Toolbox, execute an ADB Shell, and run the following command:

settings put global policy_control null

That should do the trick, and if not please let me know and we'll troubleshoot further. Thanks and best of luck!

By the way, I see you're new to XDA... WELCOME, welcome! It's always nice to see new members here in the forums! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dev1ous_34:
As this tablet download and install updates only when its not being used, I thought I can avoid update if I keep my tablet's WiFi disconnected while not using.

So downloaded an app, which automatically turn off the tablet's WiFi after turning of the screen.

I dont know if this will work, but at least trying something, maybe this one already tested, I dont know. But the app is working perfectly, it's turning off the WiFi after turning of screen.

Sorry for my bad English, its not my native language
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PreludeInZ:
Thank you very much! We got her tablet new 5 years ago, and we're trying to squeeze a little more life out of it now that she's older and wants it to do more and different things than just the preloaded amazon garbage. I'd already set up a regular profile for her, but now I'm trying to detach it from amazon as much as possible and just make it a regular old android tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PreludeInZ:
It doesn't seem to have worked, but I fully allow that I may not know how to input the command correctly into the ABD shell. This was what it gave me when I put it in:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mxh6229:
stupid question: i'm trying to install Hulu, but can not find it in the playstore. Do i install it from the Amazon app store?

The tablet isn't currently registered to my amazon account yet...okay to do so? will it affect toolbox's doing( ad removal etc)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

The problem with Google is they don't offer certain apps to non-certified devices (like Fire tablets). Fortunately, there are other places to get apps. APKMirror.com is one such place to get curated apps. The same version of Hulu that is in the PlayStore is available from APKMirror.

Yeah, install the one from Amazon. That's the easiest and will work for sure. There's no problem using Amazon's Appstore.

Also, the only reason not to register with Amazon is to have your tablet not come with your WiFi password pre-installed. If registered and associated with your account, it updates as soon as it is turned on, before you can shut off OTA Updates. After running Toolbox, it's safe to register. (Unless it came with the v7.3.2.2 update already. Then it doesn't matter.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Gdog2014:
hey guys...just got another new kindle fire hd 10 (7.3.2.1) I installed the play store and did simple debloat of amazon apps. Installed Nova Launcher. This was for my wife. She reads a lot and wants Kindle app on her tablet...is there a way to get it using the Fire Toolbox ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yup, there is. When you ran the Amazon debloat, it probably stripped out the kindle app and now it won't install from Google or Amazon. If you tried installing from the play store, uninstall that version. Now connect your tablet to the computer and run Toolbox. Go to Manage Amazon Apps > Manual tab > Simple (Recommended) > Restore Apps tab. Tick the boxes next to Kindle Store, and Goodreads (you may only see one of these) and then press Restore Selected. :)

Edit: Make sure you've got Shop Amazon enabled if your tablet isn't registered. You might need that to sign in to Amazon once.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Gdog2014:
Thanks so much for the speedy answer. No love though. I enabled Kindle Store, Good Reads and the Shop amazon app. Unfortunately when I click on the Kindle store it does nothing, and when I click on the Show Amazon or Good reads it says I have to register my tablet. If I register my tablet will that mess everything up with fire toolbox and all of the customizations I made with fire toolbox ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
No. It's completely safe to register your tablet. You just don't want it registered when you first receive it so you can block updating. If it is pre-registered, it will know your saved WiFi password and immediately connect to its servers and update to the latest version (that you don't want) before you can run Toolbox on it. Once Toolbox has been run on it, you've disabled the updating service. The reason for the Shop Amazon app is it will ask you for your login and register your tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Gdog2014:
TY. I tried adding those 3 back but when I clicked on the kindle app nothing happened even after logging in to the amazon app store. I went back and reloaded everything amazon and it worked fine.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, I'm not sure what the Amazon Debloat script removes because I haven't looked at it. I recommend removing apps manually so you know exactly what is removed and what remains. I'm glad you got it working. You've got the last firmware version that is completely modifiable by Toolbox. Stay away from OTA Updates. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JCGT90:
So i recently downloaded the facebook app on this tablet after using the web version on my browser. The problem is when i turn it into landscape mode, it's not on full screen as seen on the image. My question is, is the app version really like this? Unoptimized? or did i just download the wrong app/dpi? I got the apk file on apkmirror btw.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Since there are several versions of the Facebook app available on apkmirror, you should try another version. You may want the Lite or Android TV version. You want a low dpi, armeabi-v7a version. The screen density on my HD 10 tablet is 225. Your's may be different. Have you tried the version available in Google's Play Store?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Gdog2014:
Yessir. I bought this from gamestop for 104 (2 GB RAM model) and was shocked that it was still on 7.3.2.1.

I didnt think I would still find that in the more common 2 GB model.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JCGT90:
So your facebook app takes the fullscreen even in landscape mode? I have the 2021 version of the tablet. I haven't checked the playstore version because i didn't want to put google services on mine. I just used the tool to debloat my tablet. I've tried all versions on apkmirror and all does this.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Okay, that's why you didn't use the Google version.

I have no idea which version works best because I'm a social-mediaphobe, and I don't use facebook! (haha) Maybe that's why my forum posts are always so long.... ? ? ? :unsure:

Edit: I looked at the regular and Lite versions in the Playstore, and they're both full of bugs according to the user reviews. It may just be that the app sucks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] uweee:
Guys, toolbox is running on my fire hd10 since months.

Unfortunatelly I ve updated Alexa app via play store today!

Now Alexa app is not working anymore,last time I had to perform a complete setup/reset and a start from zero! Is it possible to reinstall Alexa app without this procedure! Thanks in advance
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
First, try uninstalling the Playstore version or rolling back to a previous version.

Edit: And never let Google update any Amazon or Alexa apps!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LazerSloth:
Attempted to Install Custom Launcher and stuck on 'Fire is starting...' screen

Hello everyone,

I'm new here, so sorry if this is not the right way to ask for help.

I just got a Kindle Fire 10 (Gen 11) and tried to install the Microsoft Launcher and now I'm stuck on the 'Fire is starting...' screen. I can restore the Kindle OS and everything works fine, but I don't like this OS and would prefer another launcher

I've attempted to reboot, try another launcher and went as far as to factory reset, but I'm getting the same result. Any ideas?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Are you on the new firmware version (7.3.2.2) ? You can tell in Toolbox by clicking on your device name in the lower left. The 3rd line down on the right of the resulting display will tell you.

I've never heard this problem reported before. It may be because of firmware version or because of something else you have installed. Have you tried another launcher? Nova and Armchair are popular. Try one of those to see if the problem persists. At least they're not Amazon Launcher!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LazerSloth:
Hello,

This is what I found.

FireOS Version: 7.3.2.1

I have tried the other launchers and I'm still getting the same result unfortunately. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Good. You've got an older version. You'll want to protect that and never let it do an OTA update to the new version.

So what happens when you install a different launcher (than stock Amazon Launcher)? You would only see that "Fire is Starting" screen on a reboot. Does it force a reboot?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LazerSloth:
It does the same thing if I try other launchers. Don't know if it makes a difference, but when attempting to install any launchers, I get an 'An error occurred during installation: Performing Streamed Install' message. After it goes through the streamed install, I don't get a confirmation message that the launcher was installed. Then it's right back to the Fire is starting screen.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It almost sounds like the Toolbox app got corrupted on your computer. You can test this by downloading the portable version, extracting it in its own folder, and running it on the tablet (maybe a fresh start with a factory reset would be warranted here) to see if that makes a difference. Or you could just replace your installed version too. Remember, that if you do a factory reset, to skip the WiFi setup so it doesn't update to the new version before you get to run Toolbox!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LazerSloth:
You were absolutely right on the money. The Toolbox app was corrupted on my computer. I downloaded the portable version and ran the custom launcher with no issues.

Thank you very much!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Excellent. Now you just have to replace your installed version of Toolbox, or continue using the portable. I'm glad we got it all sorted. Enjoy your vanilla Android!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Paul_007:
Hello i have fire hd 8 and fire toolbox 27 and i can't disabled OTA uptates, what can i do ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Look directly above your post, or at the end of this post. There's a link to a post I made on this subject in my signature. :)