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[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] kolyan:
Not sure what to do here......day light photos with back camera on S10+ are better then P3 (not by much, just better HDR). The rest of the photos are not that great and its hit or miss. Portraits are better on P3, moving subjects S10 cant shoot....it all comes out like crap, indoor pictures hit or miss, can usually take something decent in Pro mode and it will be similar to P3, low light is very good on S10.....sometimes better then P3 but not by much, very low light S10 cant take in any mode....Pixel wins by a mile. Front camera.....well I am not even sure why bother with all the laser cutout bull**** and then use some dirt cheap crap camera.......all pictures comes out like garbage from it compared to P3. I did try Google Camera mode and its still not as good as Pixel.

The rest of the phone is nice, even the much hated FPS......I have no issues with it for the most part. Not as fast as Pixel, but manageable.

Over all I am pretty disappointed in Samsung, 2019 flagship $1000 bucks and yet even original Pixel 1 will take better pictures most of the time. And I didnt even pay that much, I got S10+ for $400 bucks and I am still thinking of keeping my P3 instead......have to think about it over night

PS. I did all tests AFTER the firmware update
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] nickporwal:
Its really dissappointing how Samsung can release the product with such a bad quality in 2019. In low light, camera just give up. Software processing is very bad. Samsung is a big player and this was never expected from them.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] AhsanU:
The camera is subpar, by a very long shot. I've compared it to my two other phones: 6T, Mi Mix 3. The 6T was taken using GCam, and the Mi Mix's was with the stock camera app. The S10 Plus, of course, is using the stock camera.

6T: https://i.imgur.com/FvlwOaR.jpg

Mi Mix 3: https://i.imgur.com/LpyyS0b.jpg

S10 Plus: https://i.imgur.com/AZU8bq7.jpg

The 6T with its GCam and the Mi Mix 3 look so vibrant. The S10 Plus has washed out colours and just looks dull. All shots taken moments from one another.

I'll give this phone another week or two to update. The camera is bad, the AOD drain is bad, and the fingerprint scanner is other-worldly slow and bad. Side by side with my 6T, it isn't even remotely a competition which one is faster and better.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] more2come:
Is someone able to post Pictures pre- and post firmware update?

Sadly, I updated just after I booted the device for the first time. My experiences with the cam itself are very mixed as well. In broad daylight, die primary shooter is capable of stunning, detailed HDR pictures. In low light and especially in difficult light situations, the results are beyond bad most of the time. The software processing messed up nearly every shot with bright light souces against dark backgrounds, looks like taken with a Galaxy Nexus 1.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] RazerKnight17:
Did you change any setting? Yours looks nice even at night
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] kolyan:
Lol, I wrote the same thing then removed it, thought I was being too harsh on Sammy

The Camera with that F1.5 is clearly capable. Some low light shots I took were much better then P3 HDRs and even Night Sight couldn't match. But it was just during this phase where it's not too much light and not too little, because in those P3 shots were all better.

And again, nearly 100% of front camera shots I took were horrible. That camera needs perfect outdoor lighting in order to make anything worth keeping.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] sixline:
Not at all. Just a quick snap. Not even level the phone properly.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] sixline:
Some more clicks.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] holywhitebread:
4 door Z06 killed me, lol. :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] kolyan:
Ive done some more testing and I think I can deal with back camera using stock app outside and gcam indoors. But so far nothing is able to fix the pathetic front cameras, for some reason gcam does nothing to fix the horrible images
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Maher.k22:
So disappointed with the quality of indoor and low light pictures produced by my S10+. I have always been a Samsung guy, never missed on an S and Note model, had the P20 Pro last year then briefly the Mate 20 Pro but replaced it with the Note 9 due to the trash display on it. I hold on to my Note 9 promising myself that Samsung will definitely give us a good low light shooter with thebS10 and also after the news about the bright night shot leaked out. But nope, I was wrong, Samsung still can't figure out how to give us a camera that can compete with the Pixel and the Huawei's in low light conditions, indoor photography, and moving objects.

I love this phone, hands down the best phone I've ever had, but if Samsung don't release an update to address this and add a night sight or night mode like feature, then I am ditching it for the upcoming P30 Pro(if Huawei sorts out the display issues). I have two kids, and you can imagine how challenging it is for me taking pictures of them while playing and indoors, it's a big deal for me.

Again, crossing my fingers Samsung addresses these issues, or developers finally find a way to give us exynos owners a reliable Gcam port that has a functioning night sight mode in it.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Southeast217:
Hello! Just want to ask something in the stock camera app. Does it really have a sound while changing modes from auto to pro/live photo and vice versa? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] JayRolla:
Haha. It's a vette in sheel clothing.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] whatsitsnamenow:
I've just took a few low light pics to test your claim.

I can confirm that my s9 do indeed produce better low light pics than the s10e. Pics on the s10e have more noise and a little bit more blurry.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] EricMartinSoCal:
Haven't read through everything yet, but my observation is that the scene optimizer makes all the difference as to whether you get a great picture or a washed out, low contrast photo. When the SO recognized something I think it took a great photo, but when it didn't it was poor. I think the camera needs a bit more contrast.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] more2come:
The cam needs a bit more of everything. I've played around with the Pro Mode for some time now. Especially in low light, the photos come out alot better. I went through some unedited RAW files as well. There is, in fact, alot of potential from the hardware side, the post processing of the software is horrible though.

Not quite sure if the lense is of less quality compared to the Note 9, but sharpness tends to fall off to the side quite heavily.

I wish I could love you, little S10, about everything else seems so great about you...
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] kolyan:
Any comments from Samsung on social media? I don't use anything so I don't know. They should be aware that camera on their flagship is junk
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] EricMartinSoCal:
All the reviews seem to be positive.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] drzewoid:
I had S9+ and it was terrible camera if you compare to old Lumia 950 XL or Pixels. Now situation is even worse - S10+ camera produce less detail than budget Xperia 10 Plus. Show on picture in attachement(pictures from gsmarena.com).

PS. I can't wait XPERIA 1 :) It can be the best camera in 2019.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] justin_ooo:
Selfie camera is probably still behind Pixel imo, but the rear facing camera is better almost all the time. The only times I see the Pixel taking better shots is in terrible lighting conditions.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] EricMartinSoCal:
I'm not unhappy with the camera but I think it would be better served if whatever processing is achieved by the scene optimizer would be used as a standard (with perhaps less overshapening) on all photos. I think the shortcomings are mostly software related and therefore may be adjusted quickly I'm future updates. I wonder if a different camera app would help?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] mzsquared:
Some samples I did today on S10e, light conditions need to be handled manually well, next time maybe...

https://xdaforums.com/android/development/galaxy-10e-camera-samples-t3911198
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Nicelysedated:
Samsung definitely needs to work on there low light setting. Stock camera likes to crank the ISO.

Stock App

https://allthepics.net/image/iwHNw

GCAM Normal

https://allthepics.net/image/iw8Gg

GCAM Night Mode

https://allthepics.net/image/iwwCB

Stock App

https://allthepics.net/image/iwfF2

GCAM Normal

https://allthepics.net/image/iwjWN

GCAM Night Mode

https://allthepics.net/image/iwYzP
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] more2come:
Thank you for providing some sampe images across different cam apps [MENTION=4363915]Nicelysedated[/MENTION]

I've made some comparisons withe the stock app and the gcam port for the S9 by iDAN as well. The shots confirm what I've already seen in RAW material, the main shooter has the potential to be really, really good, the hardware itself is really capable! The sensor captures enough information for finer details, even in very low light situations, but the image processing of the stock app, ESPECIALLY with HDR enabled, just downright slaughters the image.

Simply look at the tree or the wall to the right on the second shot by Nicelysedated, it is a desaster!
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] kolyan:
I decided to return mine. I don't know how all these people make those pictures on YouTube etc that come out looking good. Today I tried to take pictures of my son and I couldn't even get 1 decent shot, all were either blurred or colors way off. With my Pixel 3 it take 1 shot and it's already good

Ps. Mine developed some scratch on the screen. I have no idea how it got there. I've had my P3 since launch and it has zero scratches (I don't have screen protectors on both)
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] more2come:
Going to return mine as well. Such a shame, really. Like I said, it's such a well designed phone, but the camera is not acceptable. I need a reliable point and shoot cam when I'm travelling.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] kolyan:
I don't know.... Maybe my phone is defective or something. I seriously can't capture even 1 shot indoors now. My son's hair turn in to a fur ball and face is unnaturally white, that's with back camera and good light source
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Mudig:
nvm
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] clueless25:
Horrible Camera!

Camera is awful! unneeded light added on all photos, can't find a way to adjust properly or tell it NOT TOO!. color balance.. what color balance.. changes hues of all colors. objects with multiple close colors merge into one flat color.. pulls a color in the back of front color through. reds... forget it! This is worse the my s7:mad:
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] EricMartinSoCal:
I think they really wanted to emphasize shadow detail, HDR and low light. If they add a little more contrast things would look better. I'm confident they will have a software update soon enough. It's an easy fix for most of the issues.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] kolyan:
They already done software update and it didn't fix anything. Not sure I can trust them and loose return window
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] mademan420:
A night and day difference with the GCam(Pixel camera) app, especially in low light and selfie portraits!
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] clueless25:
I'm having a serious problem with color saturation and actualy changing colors of objects. Im guessing that is related to color saturation. But burnt brown is not orange, turquois is not regular blue. Light blue is not white, reds are not orange or a kids red paint color.. This has some serious issues. I do jewelry and cabochons from natural materials IE Stone and metals.. This is swful! There also seems to be a lack of when different colors in the same spectrumare together being blended or blurred. One stone i have has some blue and green, cream and light cream.. light cream is white.. it cant differetiate there the blue and green mixed together and picks one. I can go on and on..

I also took the time to try and get some sunset photo's.. Didn't get one no matter how hard i tried... it made it daylight, it canceled out all the colors of the sunset.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] cornel.atomei:
Here is my 2 cents about the camera quality VS the pixel 3. A daylight video comparison is next.

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/B-vx8hTyGmY[/YOUTUBE]
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Blaalad12:
This has been a hell of an interesting thread to read through! I have seen various camera comparisons and have not seen anyone label the S10 plus camera as bad! Some people feel the Huawei Mate 20 pro is marginally better , Some felt the S10 is just as good if not better under some conditions. In low light photography it is perhaps behind then M20pro and the Pixel 3 but its not awful!

Ive only got my hands on my S10+ yesterday so have yet to test the camera but the one or two pics i have taken so far look great!
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] kolyan:
The all look great, they start to look bad when you compare them to other phones like Pixel 3 side by side on the monitor
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] EricMartinSoCal:
I'm guessing if camera is everything you should go with the Pixel. It's been that way since it came out. If you can overlook the giant notch, build, etc I don't think much compares other than the Mate 20 Pro and the upcoming P30 Pro. I'm not in love with the quality of the S10 pics (though I'm pretty impressed with video) but I also think most of what I dislike is software related and will be improved. Overall I'd say they are "great" but certainly not "outstanding."
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jamil aboudaher:
(I don't own an S10, but I've tested my friend's S10+).

The selfie cam and the main camera are pretty similar to the S9, S10's camera is be a bit better in HDR, but I always edit photos after taking so it's not a big deal.

I think S10+'s selfie is worse than the S9 when taking front live focus, let's say that a group of 3 people want to take a selfie, the S9 detect 3 faces and blur the background perfectly while focusing on these people, the S10+ focuses on the one who is holding the phone and blur the others. But the S10+ definitely wins when taking a live focus selfie of one person, edge detection is better (thanks to the additional depth sensor).

And I've heard that the galaxy S9 has less noise than the S10 in low light conditions, but the S10 is sharper, isn't it?

Anyways, the S10/S10+'s camera system is much more versatile than the S9/S9+...

Hope samsung will improve those little things, and the camera will be perfect.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Joe6006:
Yeah, low light and indoor photos have way too much noise and aren't sharp. Did a comparison and my S8 takes much better photos in the same conditions. Hopefully they release an update to address it.. Pretty poor
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] sixline:
Stock vs gcam. Stock is better in bright daylight as it used aperture f2.4 vs f1.5 in gcam.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] sixline:
Stock vs gcam in office room. Both are almost similar but gcam used iso 83 vs 320 by stock.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jamil aboudaher:
I tested my friend's S10+ more, and I can say that when there's enough light, selfie is better on the galaxy S10+, we took a group photo and the sun was directly behind us and the sky looks blue like it should be, without losing any detail... I also took some rear live focus photos, edge detection is awesome and the black and white background effect is very accurate and so fun to use.

So definitely the s10 has a better camera overall.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jbalic:
Wow, the exact same situation with my phone, at least before I returned it, it's not mine anymore :D

You have two problems together:

1. Bad screen calibration (I'm guessing you have it set to Vivid) which does this blending of similar colors and similar highlight differences to an average). Natural mode is not better in any way, but the only way it looks at least decently calibrated, and avoids these issues, is turning on Blue Light filter and leaving it at a really low opacity. Then the color and luminosity values are displayed pretty much correctly, the most natural you can get on S10, only dark tones lack in contrast, but much better than Vivid or Natural. Hope they fix this with a software update.

2. Second biggest problem is camera doing a washed out HDR when HDR is disabled in camera settings. That can hopefully be addressed with a software update, but I also didn't want to wait around for a possibility of one and lose a chance to return it and get money back while they decide..

P.s. I just watched this review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDd6v7X8Zw , and for the life of me can't figure out how some photos look normal (contrast wise) on his camera (video for example from 2:20 on), and mine continued to do HDR when it was disabled - in any situation I tried shooting..

I tried few different S10+ phones in my region, all had the same problem. Yet this reviewed one doesn't, or at least much less... I have a European Exynos phone, not sure if that could be relevant..

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Mine also did that clicky sound all the times, really irritating and not necessary at all, don't know why they decided to put it in?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jamil aboudaher:
Bro this sound is coming from the camera lens when switching aperture.

I tried it now on my S9. It's night time so the aperture in auto is 1.5, but in pro I have set the aperture to 2.4

So when switching from auto to pro the camera lens switches from 1.5 to 2.4, and it makes this very quiet sound that isn't noticeable until you become closer to your phone and there's not any loud sound around you.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] memocatcher:
I'm quite dissapointed that Samsung call this a great camera... Night shots are bad imo
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] mzsquared:
Tried again my S10e on sunny day today, letting more light in, to see better details(tree trunks in front) messes up the background colors - I need more trials I guess, to get better pics from this phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] mzsquared:
Found the same camp spot pic to compare, I did it last fall using OnePlus 6, though this one is in hdr(zip files, less compressed)

ha, someone is stealing the firewood!
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] joeynox:
Does anyone else have issue with like a white balance/ over exposed of the front camera? Not just on you but the entire screen almost like a white balance is turned up depending on which direction you hold the phone at?

Also is anyone have lens flare issues (light balls from the rear camera )
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] clueless25:
YES and it's bad!

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I wasn't using vivid. Also tried to change settings to work under Pro setting.. They need to fix this now!!
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] mzsquared:
S10e here again.

Could you post a sample of those problems? The camera screen controls are a bit too tricky to operate, it's switching modes while using screen touch for different things. I have a fresh batch of 10e camera samples, just 'point & shoot' w/normal zoom. Used "food" setup for the last two.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] mzsquared:
'food' option:
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] VICosPhi:
I compared pics from Exynos S10+, Snapdragon S9+ and Note9 Exynos. Snapdragon S9+ has the best sharpness and color accuracy of all(Sony sensor). Note 9 ISOCell rear camera is almost as good as Snapdragon S9+ rear camera but front camera is noticeably inferior.

S10+ pictures show better details in low light but this affects color accuracy and sharpness. I took a few pics today and S10+ had more details in darker areas but the color accuracy was horrible. When I zoom in on small object after taking the picture, both S9+ and Note9 show red squares which is correct, but S10+ shows grey/black squares.

I am disappointed and not sure if Samsung can fix this with a software upgrade.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] EricMartinSoCal:
It's all software related. They bet everything on low light, dynamic range and Shadow detail at the expense of a lot. Of you side loaded Google Camera it solves all of it and you also don't get the annoying smoothing of fine detail. I'm sure Samsung will update as well. The camera has a lot more potential than SCam gives it.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Googeo:
Sometimes the photos look like a joke... People faces are full of artifacts and look like witches.. When you zoom in you can see pixelated details etc...

Can't believe that my old s8 had better detail and less noise... Very disappointed.. On the other hand there are some things that s10 is much better to be fair
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jocaboss:
Here comes a few photos from my 2 weeks using s10 camera... I think it's a great camera... Not perfect but great overall...
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] mzsquared:
Not bad, let's hope that Samsung could tweak the software to improve low light pics and zoom.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] more2come:
It could be fixed. As I wrote earlier, the cam produces very usable RAW image files. Some versions of the GCAM can deliver great low light shots. It's up to Samsung now.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] mains75:
https://www.samsung.com/au/support/mobile-devices/galaxy-s10-super-night-shot/

There is already a night camera mode...Maybe nobody realized that? Or is it useless?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] VICosPhi:
Samsung's camera adds way too much smoothing effect and causes pics to lose sharpness and color accuracy. Check out a few pics in the previous pages to see comparison between gCam and Samsung camera.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Maher.k22:
That's the stupid and useless Bright Night shot, the AI SOMETIMES decides to use it, which results and nasty blury images with zero sharpness and tons of noise. It's like LG's take on the night mode with the I believe G7, except that it was this terrible in 2018 and I'm sure they improved, whereas Samsung had a full year to engineer their own night mode after Huawei and Google gave us their brilliant night modes.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] mains75:
Maybe Samsung will make it better in the next updates...I hope...
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] vratnik:
I noticed a bug in HDR10+ video recording - zooming/switching lenses during recording is not reliable, does not always react to changing.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] sousa_2005:
maybe...only maybe..

March update and my pictures are like this:
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] catnapped:
To throw some more gasoline on the fire, anyone finding that the zoom/closeup shots don't work right? Can try to frame a close up on "photo" with either the normal or tele setting and at a reasonable distance and it'lll come out blurry. Click to "live focus" then back and voila, now it works correctly. Is this by design or something wrong?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Maher.k22:
They had a full year to work on their awful image processing and this is what we got!! I spent 1050 dollars to get a device that I need a ported gcam app to get good pictures out of it, and in our case and as an exynos owner, I know we'll never get a fully functional port. I'm moving to the P30 Pro and never looking back at Samsung phones ever again.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Tuan_Fahmi:
Yes. Same with me. Hope p30 and p30 pro price ok.