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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] malfuncion:
On latest version of FireOS this is normal behavior.

I have tried many methods to rollback to a previous firmware, add utilities for startup jobs, all sorts of tricks of which none worked.

Each reboot reverts my changes- you'll likely find more restored if you go digging (look at disabled APKs).

I ultimately gave up on the latest FireOS until I have more time to attack it..

-edit- looks like some things have progressed since this time last year. makes sense and my info above may now be outdated. I may have to pick my replacement kid tab up again and see if I can mod it now.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bacon Bytes:
Hi,

I am trying to run this on Garuda Linux with KDE Plasma desktop. However, when I try to install it, I get stuck at the prerequisites page. I cannot scroll down on this page to see if all of the requirements are downloaded nor does the next button come up. How can I fix this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] malfuncion:
On this window,

hit tab, then space.

It will take you to the acceptance window, do another

tab space to check box

another tab space to move to next window.

Then a final

tab tab tab space

should install it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Depends on the version of FireOS 7 on your Fire tablet.

If f/w 7.3.2.1 or earlier, use FTB to diable Fire Launcher and Nova Launcher becomes default.

If f/w 7.3.2.2 or later, use FTB OneButton/CustomNavBar workaround procedures to get Nova Launcher to open on startup. Be sure to explicitly follow install directions for best results. You may be having problems with the Automate process and its authorizations , so debug as required.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bacon Bytes:
I got this error when I did the tab space thing. I clicked take me to error and nothing happened. I do not understand what this message means.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Wow, looks like I forgot to bind the button. Go me.

Before we can create a udev rule you'll need to get the vendor id and mode for your tablet. To get both values plug in your tablet (ensure USB/ADB Debugging is enabled in Developer Options on your tablet), and execute the following command in a Konsole:

lsusb | grep Lab

The output should look simliar to this:

Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1949:0338 Lab126, Inc. Fire

All we're really interested in the numbers following the ID string... so 1949:0338 (yours may be different). Once we have the numbers, we're ready to create a udev rule for our tablet. I've attached the udev rule template to this post. Please download it, extract it, and open it in Kate.

In the template, you should see the following:

SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="ID HERE", MODE="MODE HERE", GROUP="plugdev"

Now replace the "ID HERE" and the "MODE HERE" with the numbers we obtained from lsusb. As an example:

SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1949", MODE="0338", GROUP="plugdev"

Save the udev rule. Open a Konsole, and cd to the directory where the udev template is. Now we need to copy it to the rules.d directory:

sudo cp 59-adb.rules /etc/udev/rules.d

Once copied, all we need to do is reboot. Once the computer starts booting, unplug the tablet, and replug it in.

That should do it! Best of luck and please let us know how it goes! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Managed to install Garuda in a VM and ended up encountering the same issue. I tried manually adjusting the window's size but that also didn't seem to work. It's almost as if it stops rendering the UI after checking the repo packages. Not sure why this would be this case though. Hmm...

Tried placing the Toolbox files to test to see if it would run and ended up getting errors there too. It complained about the Python version not being supported. Checked the Python version and it looks like Python 3.11 is the default on Garuda. The Toolbox was built on 3.10 so I guess it didn't like that Python 3.11 was being used instead. Hmm, Going to keep digging around to see if a solution can be found. I deeply apologize!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jonny.pl:
Were can i read about that workaround? And how can i debug if Automate process making problems?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] RunMoonStone:
yes.

is there any solution for this kind of issue?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Just out of curiosity, was the tablet obtained for Amazon's website? It's kind of cool that you got an unreleased model, but I'm just trying to figure out how that could happen?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] braveheartleo:
Thank you. This would serve as additional resource if I need to tinker with udev rules again.

Yes, that fixed it. :D Though I did get a prompt "failed to initialize the tool", but it went away and started the toolbox UI. I'll give the toolbox a test drive and report if there are anymore issues. Thank you once more for supporting Linux.

There is also this window prompt regarding www.rentry.co being unreachable. Is the connection to this site necessary?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Awesome! Glad to see you got it up and running! (y)

As for the last error, the connection to rentry isn't mandatory. It's just where the notifications are stored and read from.

If you're OK with missing out on notifications, you can disable the Notification Center option in the Settings. That should prevent the message from popping up when the Toolbox starts.

As for the second error regarding the tool not initializing, does it consistantly occur?

Hope you're having a great Sunday so far! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
An interesting thread by @RiCkLaR on more ongoing Amazon/Google "intrusiveness" with Fire tablet OTA blocking implications ... the "snooping" never ends !

https://xdaforums.com/t/stop-dns-leaks-bypasses-in-firetv.4587591/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
One way to recycle old tech ... brutal !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] braveheartleo:
Hi,

Thanks for the background info regarding the domain and how to control the toolbox behavior wrt it.

The error message only occured once during first run and it no longer came back after succeeding runs.

BTW I'm amazed at how you almost translated the same functionality and interface of the windows program to Linux using python. The installer is also commendable. I feel like in Windows when running FTB installer and main. Great programming I would say. ;)

Have a great day. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] parataxis:
I am getting an error when launching Fire Toolbox on Linux (the new 1.0 build), however I receive an error:

I have proper ADB permissions, and BTW for anyone having trouble with ADB and Linux make sure you select "Files Transfer" on Kindle Device to access permissions for given device on Linux.

Thank you for the software and I hope to resolve this soon!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Looks like I forgot to add support for trona. Thank you so much for the report! :D

A micropatch should be released later today. Keep an eye on the Toolbox Updater for it. ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] parataxis:
Very good, I tried for an hour or so to change my HOSTNAME which I can do but only per session/tty... otherwise, rooted device would've worked I guess.

Thank you, and hope every body is satisfied with the latest release! :giggle:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Androidpolice.com confirms that Google Play Services infrastructure still installs and runs on FireOS 8.3.1.8 ... so far so good wrt FireOS 8 updates on Gen12 Fire tablets. FTB mods still good-to-go ! 😀

How to install the Google Play Store on every Amazon Fire tablet

Get the apps you want on your brand-new device

www.androidpolice.com

Still probably some incompatibility/instability issues with some Google-branded apps as we posted earlier.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
The micropatch may be delayed until late, late tonight. Ran into some unexpected roadblocks. Just wanted to let you know, my apologizes my friend!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Complete list of Fire Toolbox 30.2 files and file locations installed on Windows computers, as complied by advanceduninstaller.com. Includes FTB 30.3 micropatch update and Automate files.

Fire Toolbox V30.2 version version 30.2 by Datastream33 - How to uninstall it

How to uninstall Fire Toolbox V30.2 version Version 30.2 by Datastream33? Learn how to remove Fire Toolbox V30.2 version Version 30.2 from your computer.

www.advanceduninstaller.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] A-question:
Coming soon!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I suppose that if you wanted to remove absolutely everything, you could do that. I've never gone to that extent. I just tell people to delete the desktop shortcuts and the %LocalAppData%\Datastream folder. The remaining reg keys are irrelevant and are probably more dangerous to find/delete than to just leave them. (I've always used the portable version and I don't have the unins000.exe file.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] naruto861214:
Was looking for a way to update my tab but don't want the OTA enabled. Then 30.3 popped up, what a good timing.

Thanks for the work!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] naruto861214:
Hi guys,

I have a problem updating my 10th tab from 7.3.1.4 to 7.3.2.8. When I copied it to the internal storage and clicked update. It shows failed to update. Then I thought it's might because I disabled OTA, So I want enabled it using toolbox (the toggle box jumped back to disabled as soon as it done). After that every time I clicked the System update it will crash and flash back to Device Option page. As my fire OS was quite old, maybe it's a incompatible issue with toolbox or I just done something wrong? Do I have a chance make update work again or should I consider a factory reset to fix the problem?:unsure:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] naruto861214:
Tried 17.0. Update went alive again! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
New Amazon Fire Max 11 tablet announced by Amazon today !

Fire Tablet Specifications: Fire HD Models | Fire Tablets

Select the Fire tablet device you want to see. Fire HD 10 (2023, 13th Gen) Fire HD 10 (2023, 13th Gen) Fire Max 11 (2023, 13th Gen) Fire HD 8 (2022, 12...

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Amazon Fire Max 11 Tablet 2023: 6 best new features

Amazon’s new Fire tablet brings together a sleek design, enhanced processor, optional bundled accessories, and brilliant display for entertainment and personal productivity.

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Fire Max 11: Amazon Finally Has a Real iPad Alternative

Amazon's new premium tablet offering starts at $230 and is designed not only for fun but work, too, with an optional keyboard case and stylus sold separately.

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Fire Max 11 Tablet: Amazon's Answer to the Google Pixel Tablet?

While the Fire Max 11's hardware lags behind the higher resolution and RAM of the iPad and Pixel Tablet, it keeps the main strength of Amazon's tablet line: a low price.

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Amazon Announces The Fire Max 11 - 11-Inch Tablet With Double The Power And Optional Pen And Keyboard

Amazon Launch The Fire Max 11 - Fire Tablet With Double The Power And Optional Pen And Keyboard, Best Tablet In The 11-Inch Range.

tabletmonkeys.com

Compare Amazon Fire tablet specs: Fire 7, Fire HD 8, Fire HD 10, and Fire Max 11 tablets - Liliputing

Compare Amazon Fire tablet specs: Fire 7, Fire HD 8, Fire HD 10, and Fire Max 11 tablets

liliputing.com

Amazon's Fire Max 11 wants to dominate the midrange Android tablet market

Move over, Pixel Tablet — Amazon is set to launch its most premium Fire Tablet yet

www.androidpolice.com

Fire Max 11 is Amazon's largest and most powerful tablet yet

Amazon is going big with a new 11-inch tablet.

www.xda-developers.com

Available on Amazon.com (USA) for pre-order, shipping June 14.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B1VQ1ZQY/ref=ods_surl_stne

Model : KFSNWI

Codename : SUNSTONE

Fire Max 11 (2023, 13th Gen)

#Edit#

still running FireOS 8 variant ☹️

Google Play infrastructure workable but still incomplete ?

is 4GB RAM enough ?

Widevine L1 compliant ? (Yes)

no 3.5 mm stereo jack ? (No, use Bluetooth, USB-C dongle)

no GPS, no NFC ? (No)

integrates with Microsoft ? (as cloud-powered productivity platform)

not marketed in Canada, France, Italy, Spain ? Why?

Strange that most Fire tablet models are suddenly out of stock on Amazon.com today.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
These guys are devs of a third-party Windows "uninstaller" utility. Sometimes these kinds of apps remove "everything" , which could be too much! ... Use with appropriate caution.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Wow! You probably didn't want to update that tab because you had one of the "golden versions" of the firmware (pre 7.3.2.2) that allowed full functionality of the Toolbox. Any firmware updates after that will cause your custom launcher replacement and OTA update blocking to be much more involved and less reliable. The workarounds use way more memory causing the tablet to be slower and less responsive.

I don't know what "17.0 Update" is. Maybe you wrote the wrong number there, or maybe it's some other program you ran.

You surmised correctly that the update failure was due to OTA Updates being disabled. If you did in fact get them re-enabled and you updated your firmware, I suspect that you are now an unhappy camper with a far less functional tablet than you started with.

I have files in my signature to update the apps that won't update from Amazon so that they can try to force you to update your firmware. You can just sideload the apps you need and install over the top of the pre-installed apps. I pulled them from a newer tablet with the newer firmware. They work just fine on the older firmware.

TLDR: There's no need to update your firmware. You had great firmware to begin with. You can update the apps that don't work from the files in my signature.(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
More Fire Max 11
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] smartass1379:
Hello I've installed the package and have tried running it in regular terminal and from python in terminal and I'm getting errors. If anyone could help with a step by step I would love and appreciate it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Hey @Datastream33

Heads-up on device ident info for new Amazon Fire Max 11 tablet:

Model : KFSNWI

Codename : SUNSTONE

Fire Max 11 (2023, 13th Gen)

Preliminary, pending confirmation from shipping units.

#Edit

Device Ident data confirmed 👌
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] naruto861214:
What a bad news to me... I thought the new workaround was just as good as old one do. My lock screen refused to unlock sometimes, I always need to reboot to solve the problem, so I thought newer patch might fix the problem. but the only thing I can found is the latest firmware. I thought I have no choice but download the latest one... maybe It's time to try a customized rom.

I mean toolbox 17.0 made my update work again. the latest one is incompatible with my tab.

Thanks for the good files! But I might need a system wide update to fix the bug. at least it looks smooth for now. lol
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hey, thanks for the info! Prepping for the tablet's release! :D

Sunstone looks pretty solid!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Forron:
Is there a way to disable the fire Launcher again? At least for old tablets that never supportet the Firmaware Version 7?

I have an old HD10 7th generation (suez) It runs FireOS 5.6.1.0.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] monkish34:
Is it possible that I can get sent the link to the portable version of Linux Toolbox?

The installer pops up, but says I'm missing Pip. So it says to sudo python3-pip. I do that and my OS(openSuSe Tumbleweed) says python3-pip is already installed. I've been messing with this for an hour now.

I'd really appreciate the help. Been waiting on this Linux version for so long now. :) I can't believe it's out!

Thanks.

EDIT: Actually my terminal says:

'python3-pip' not found in package names. Trying capabilities.

Then it says:

'python310-pip' providing 'python3-pip' is already installed.

So something is going on. It would be so much better if I had a portable script. Or at least that's what I'm assuming the portable version is.

EDIT AGAIN: So yeah, I went through yast and it shows python310-pip is installed. So maybe I'm running too new of a version? If so I wouldn't even know how to downgrade for this.

EDIT THE THIRD: I have an Amazon 7 gen 22. Got it just last November. And I've tried pip install certifi and I get:

Defaulting to user installation because normal site-packages is not writeable
Requirement already satisfied: certifi in /usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages (2023.5.7)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Fire Launcher can be hidden on FireOS 5, but it causes Parental Controls to trip out every time the home button is pressed. I believe It's better to hijack the home key or reroute the homekey altogether.

However, if you really want to hide Fire Launcher you can via the Manage Amazon Apps > Manual > Advanced subtool. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Try checking your PMs! ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Forron:
Thank you for your fast reply. I meant if there is a way to change the standard launcher. I know that the capability to do so was removed by amazon, but i think my device should still be able to do so. Sorry if i waste your time because i overlooked something obvious.

Btw i run fire OS 5.3.6.4 now.

P.S.: Some times i really suck to get my point across.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] casefan7:
Running on linux but unable to download the v1.1 update, sent you a PM with some more info :) Thanks for not having to create a windows VM for extinguishing my fires.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Fire Max 11 SysInfo and Geekbench 5 performance scores , as released by Amazon.

Fire Max 11 Benchmark Scores - Lots Of Processor For The Price

Fire Max 11 Benchmark Scores - See How The Speed, Power, And Performance Of The Processor Compares To Other Tablets Of The Closes Size.

tabletmonkeys.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Survey of alternative launchers for your Fire tablet ... Lots of choices!

14 best Android launchers in 2024

When someone talks about Material You, is Material Eww the first thing that comes to mind? If so, you need a launcher

www.androidpolice.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ItsZuri:
Not sure if it was mentioned but Google Play started working again on my Fire HD 10. I wonder if they fixed it on Googles side? I know a few people had the same issue here so check if it works again as well.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Thanks for the update. 👍

Concur that Google Play Games installs and runs as expected on FireOS 7.x.x. Current version 2023.02.41401, updated April 24, 2023.

Apparently, it was a "glitch" in one of the self-updates of Google Play Services infrastructure and was quickly resolved with subsequent updates. Problem was not restricted to Fire tablets, but also affected other Android devices.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I have a Fire HD 8 Plus running 7.3.2.6, One Button Navigation, and RethinkDNS. Is FTB still unable to remove/hide the Fire Launcher? Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chukkalasandeep:
Hi,

I am trying the tool for Fire HD Tablet 8, I am trying to install the custom launcher (Nova)but getting error as attached. I tried other options also but still same error. Can anyone help.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
For Google accounts, note change in behavior of Google Contacts with recent Google Play Services update:

This small Google Contacts change could have major consequences

Google is changing how Contacts stay synced on Android, as toggling sync off will now remove all contacts. Read on to know more!

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New Google Contacts sync behavior is both a blessing and a curse

Google Contacts will wipe your saved contacts from a phone if you turn off sync

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Cpt.mactavish:
Firmware 7.3.2.7 9th gen firehd10

Firetoolbox 30.3

I use debloating script-keep amazon store(this way stock launcher Doesn't show tablet not registered msg)

Then block ota+updates from system modification settings

But after using for a few days without any issue..........somehow all amazon apps gets updated and comes back

Any way to prevent this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Cpt.mactavish:
@Datastream33 sir,plz help me
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chukkalasandeep:
Hi @everyone, can one help on this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] parataxis:
Hi there, I would initially check your Kindle and make sure Developer Options are enabled and Debug Mode is turned on. Google if you need to.

Beyond that, perhaps check Java versioning (I don't think it's prepackaged) and uninstall/re-install the latest Java. If all else fails, you can always factory reset your Kindle (backup data first!), and start over to see if the problem is resolved. That "stack trace" tells me there is something corrupt on your Kindle since User Code is related to the tablet itself, and the debug trace unwinds towards the bottom to tell you the actualized error. I think if you press Volume Up and Power (it might be volume down) at same time during boot-up process it should bring up a fastboot shell and you can select factory defaults easily enough.

Good Luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] braveheartleo:
Hi @Datastream33

I've got another error report to make. After the update of FTB Linux to V1.1 I'm now getting this "failed to sideload the debugger due to an error" message upon program startup, and doesn't continue after that. The message window contains

From the error, it seems that the path got truncated somehow to V1.1/bin/AmazonDebugger/AmazonDebugger.apk instead of Fire Toolbox V1.1/bin/AmazonDebugger/AmazonDebugger.apk. That's the install directory and somehow the whitespaces in the file path got lost. I verified that the apk is present in the directory.

Can you take a look?

EDIT: This only happens when I connect 'douglas' to FTB Linux V1.1. There's no such error when 'onyx' is connected. My workaround for now is to transfer the apk and install it on the tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Great catch my friend. The Toolbox originally wasn't going to support spaces in the root directory path (as you pointed out in the error message - the spaces weren't handled properly resulting in a broken path). However, @blaacksheep being the good guy that is, highly recommended that it should. Had to rewrite some tools but in the end the root directory now supports spaces. However, it seems I missed the path conversion for the debugger installation function. The issue has been fixed and an update has been released. :D

Yeah, douglas runs FireOS 5 which requires the debugger to be installed before the Toolbox can interact fully with the device. It allows us to hide packages, and perform some other interactions that wouldn't be possible without it. I'm starting to wonder if there's an equivalent for other FireOS versions that can be used to disable the protected packages on FireOS 7. Can't remember how we obtained the FireOS 5 one though.

I'd like to sincerely apologize for my late response. Glad to see you were able to find a workaround though!

Again, thank you so much for the report! By the way, how are things going with the port on your end? Is everything functional (besides the debugger failing to install)?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

May I ask which tablet was in use when the error occurred? Thank you in advanced!