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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] A-question:
I updated my HD10 to 7.3.2.3 and things seem to be okay so far.

It was 7.3.2.1 out of the box. I disabled the updates and put on the play store. I was using the fire launcher anyway because I couldn't get Nova to work.

Lockscreen ads haven't come back (yet?) and that little annoying icon on the bottom left of the tablet hasn't come back either.

All my google stuff and play store apps are still here and working as before. A big new icon was added on the home page, but you can toggle that off in the settings on the tablet itself.

Just thought you should know if you want the latest software for peace of mind.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If you have a v7.3.2.1 version of FireOS or earlier, DO NOT UPDATE!! Leave OTA Updates disabled!! You won't gain anything by updating and in fact will lose the ability to block further updates, lose the ability to change your launcher without the Amazon Launcher always running in the background wasting valuable resources, and lose the ability to disable lockscreen ads without using a 3rd party app. All these things lead to a much less enjoyable experience on your tablet. Once again - if you have FireOS v7.3.2.1 or earlier, DO NOT UPDATE!!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I don't have \bin\Custom Launchers in my c drive. Also, how do I get rid of all this crap? See attached.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ivorin:
Wherever you installed Fire Toolbox, its folder should have a subfolder: bin\Custom Launchers
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Right-click on the Toolbox desktop icon, left-click "Open file location", left dbl-click the "bin" folder, left dbl-click the "Custom Launchers" folder.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] vbrooklyn:
Does anyone expeincing issue with Optimum app from former cablevision. After installing Fire Toolbox, Optimum app skips video frames (sound works fine). Don't get me wrong, I love Fire Toolbox. Just wondering is there solution so that video would be displayed smoothly without skipping frames. Thank you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
I installed nova launcher.only icons are play store ,contacts and nova settings. How can I get sortcuts to other apps?Thanks

Edit: I see all it takes is a swipe;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
Just put it on my tablet Saturday. So far no issues. Did you get app from Amazon appstore?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pmckay:
I use the optimum app on my hd10 with the toolbox and don't notice any issues skipping video frames. I have had issues in the past, but I think they were network related.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I found them in a different path: C:\Users\jford\AppData\Local\Datastream\Fire Toolbox V28.6\bin\Custom Launchers. It contains the following apks: FireLauncher.apk, LauncherHijack.apk. MicrosoftLauncher.apk and NovaLauncher.apk. First, Windows shows no prior versions of NovaLauncher.apk, and it has a creation date of 7/2\2/2022, which indicates to me that it is V7.x and not V6.x. Also, if it deleted FireLauncher.apk and installed Nova after that your way, would that mean that the Amazon Launcher is gone for good?

[EDIT] BTW. I installed Nova using the Toolbox, as you suggested and it installed Nova V6.2.12 like you said. Now I just need to get rid of the bloat to have a pure Android looking tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] vbrooklyn:
I just updated Optimum app from Amazon store and still having issue with skipped frames. Interestingly some channels do not have this issue (ABC, FOX) but most of the channels do have issue with skipped frames (CBS, NBC, CW, etc.). I have Optimum app and Fire Toolbox installed on Fire HD and Fire HD Plus, and both tablets have skipped frame issue in Optimum app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
I keep editing my post because I now seem to have same issue you do.:mad:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That is the correct path.

If you want a different version of Nova than what is included in Toolbox, replace the file "NovaLauncher.apk" with a renamed file of the version that you want. It must be renamed "NovaLauncher.apk" (case sensitive). Then run Toolbox.

Toolbox doesn't need to contain FireLauncher.apk because that version is a included in your installation of FireOS and cannot be deleted. It can only be disabled (in v7.3.2.1 and earlier and can't be even disabled in later versions).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It sounds to me like your tablet is stuttering on DRM protected video. DRM requires more processor time/power to run, possibly making the framerate drop. Because these tablets have such limited memory and hardware, it's likely that the processor is getting overwhelmed. Try not to run any extra apps while watching these videos and remove any non-essential apps from your tablet to make the problem minimal.

edit: Oh, and welcome to XDA!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mill58:
I tried to install Google Services on my Fire 10 Plus (2021 release) using Fire Toolbox 28.6 a few minutes ago and the screen of my tablet went black. After that I'm unable to see anything on the screen but I can heard the sounds of the tablet OS. Fire Toolbox still detects the tablet when I connect it to my PC and I'm able to install things like NovaLauncher or Youtube Apps like NewPipe and run commands via command line but not reaction at all from the tablet screen also the screen capture images just show a black screen.

For example:

> "cd /storage/emulated/0/;ls -l"
total 92
drwxrwx--x 2 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 Alarms
drwxrwx--x 4 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 Android
drwxrwx--x 2 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 Books
drwxrwx--x 2 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 DCIM
drwxrwx--x 3 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 Documents
drwxrwx--x 2 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 Download
drwxrwx--x 2 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 Movies
drwxrwx--x 3 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 Music
drwxrwx--x 2 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 Notifications
drwxrwx--x 3 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 Pictures
drwxrwx--x 2 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 Podcasts
drwxrwx--x 2 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 Ringtones
drwxrwx--x 2 root sdcard_rw 4096 2021-11-08 23:12 kindle
-rw-rw---- 1 root sdcard_rw 5941 2022-07-19 00:20 recording.mp4
-rw-rw---- 1 root sdcard_rw 31438 2022-07-18 23:08 window_dump.xml

Is my device brick or there is something that I can do to get it the screen work again? sadly I have no idea which OS version I was running on it. If there is a command that I can run to check the version of the OS please let me know.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ivorin:
Yes, with Fire Toolbox connected to the tablet, the bottom left of the Toolbox's main window has some text you can click on. That will reveal your OS/firmware version and other details.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ivorin:
You could try restarting the tablet to see if that clears it up.

If not, I seem to remember that Fire Toolbox can some of the display settings, such as (DPI?), in one of its sections.

If that doesn't help, hopefully one of the pro's will post soon with better ideas.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ivorin:
Although GBoard works on my Fire HD 10 (2021) 7.3.2.1, its microphone icon for voice typing seems to be listening but doesn't actually transcribe any text. Any solution?

Also, with these steps I was able to get Google Assistant working despite Fire Toolbox hanging on the download portion:

(1) Play Store > Install Google App

(2) Play Store > Install Google Assistant

(3) Fire Toolbox > Google Assistant, which although produces some errors, eventually makes it through to disable Alexa, and set Google Assistant to the "real" default.

After that, "Hey Google" and various other features can be set up like they would on other devices.

Installing Google Assistant also made GBoard's microphone icon record audio, but it didn't fix the lack of any actual voice-to-text output from GBoard.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mill58:
I tried to restart it several times by now. As you can see in the stats that I posted above the tablet OS only have 26 minutes up.

Any more specifics steps about the display settings will be appreciated.

Thanks a lot!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ivorin:
Fire Toolbox > Modify System Settings: There's a row of tabs at the top, where next to "General" you can select "Display". In that tab/section are some basic settings that might be worth altering to see if it helps.

Otherwise one of the gurus will hopefully step in soon, if they have better ideas.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ivorin:
Also, in the Toolbox > Power Options is a potentially dangerous Recovery option. I say dangerous because if the tablet display really is dead due to a hardware failure, perhaps Recovery mode would lock you out of it completely.

I don't know enough about this area.

I wonder if there's a way in Toolbox to factory reset the tablet, because if even that fails to restore it, it probably is a hardware failure.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mill58:
I don't think is a hardware failure. The tablet was brand new and I had like 1 hour of use before I tried to install Google Services using Fire Toolbox. I did only that and install NewPipe.

Anyway thanks and I will wait for more replies before trying anything else.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] i0nviz:
Would it be possible to add an option in Fire Toolbox to change the tablet's language ? It seems that once it is setup to English for example, it is impossible to change the language from the "Device options" / "Keyboard and language" / "Language" section. Selecting "Language" menu kicks me back to "Device Options"
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Why didn't I think of your 2nd paragraph concept? 🤔 Done.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kyor:
Problem with chromecast

I have disabled OTA Updates and i installed the google play store. i have downloaded netflix from amazon Appstore, because it is not visible from Play store.

The app netflix and prime video works fine, but i can't stream it to my tv via chromecast.

Chromecast instead is working on the tablet, because other apps like ARD or waipu.tv works fine with chromecast and the fire tablet.

Does anyone have the same issue?

Perhaps it would work on the new version v7.3.2.3?

Could someone test netflix or prime video if they have the same problem with chromecast?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] A-question:
7.3.2.3 here

Netflix installed via Amazon store - doesn't find Chromecast when I click the cast button. Only shows my LG TV or firestick.

Prime video via Amazon store - cast button doesn't even appear.

Also can't cast to Disney+ (via Amazon store)

Seems that Amazon store apps don't support Chromecast, as I can cast youtube perfectly fine (Google play store)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kyor:
thanks for testing.

Unfortunately, Netfilx, Prime Video cannot be installed from the Play Store. What a Pity.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] A-question:
Yeah I noticed that, which is why I had to opt for the amazon store versions. Kinda weird but oh well!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mill58:
Sadly doing this I got an installation failure error my tablet went into sleep (black screen) and now the screen is not working anymore... all I can do is to access it via fire toolbox, restart it or try to install things but nothing more.... the screen just die....
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
Maybe time to try a reset and start from scratch. You would have to do that anyway if you have to send it back as defective and would need to remove the toolbox .If you go that route, I would turn off wifi just to be safe since you said you didn't know what firmware you were running, and wouldn't want it automatically updating. Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ivorin:
During the restart of the tablet, does anything at all appear on the screen, such as the Fire logo or other splash screen? As far as I know, no software installed should be able to change the early stages of booting, such as the Fire logo.

However, it's slightly conceivable that software could damage the hardware somehow; e.g. triggering a driver malfunction that pushes the hardware past its safe limits.

Or maybe something has been corrupted in the OS so deep that even the booting images don't appear. In this case, hopefully a factory reset would solve it.

If you decide to reset, hopefully there's a way to commence the reset without being able to see the display. Power Options > Recovery might do it, because then I seem to remember that the volume keys are used to navigate through the (unseen) menu, which someone might be able to walk you through.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
There are many youtube videos that address this situation. Many say to just press and hold power button for 20 seconds 'til it turns off and then try to turn it back on. Another suggestion is to repeatedly tap all around the screen front and back to bring it back. No harm in trying either of these.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mill58:
I tried this several times and is not working... The tablet resets but no amazon logo or anything on screen happens... its just black.

I put it in Recovery mode using the fire toolbox and just lost connection to it (as expected). I had to press and hold the button for about 40 seconds to turn it off and turn it on again. No changes about the black screen.

At this point I will just wait a few more days and see if there are any other replies but I'm pretty sure is a lost case and no one else seems to have the same experience so far.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kryga-i9506:
Hi Mill58, your Fire HD 10 (2021) is behaving very strangely indeed.

I have tested again both variants for the boot in the recovery.

1. via the power options in the toolbox

2. through power and volume down while the Fire HD 10 is turned off

In both cases I see the white Amazon logo followed by the recovery menu.

With variant 1, your Fire HD 10 also boots and hopefully into the recovery menu.

If you do not see anything on the display, then you can blindly perform the following steps.

a) wait 2 minutes (to be sure it booted into recovery)

b) press volume up once (to blindly select factory reset)

c) press power once

d) press volume up once (to blindly select yes; my Fire HD 10 always shows only one "no" and one "yes" in exactly this order)

e) press power once (to start the process)

f) wait some minutes (cant tell how long it takes)

g) press power (to perform a reboot)

I have performed steps a through d several times; the recovery menu never behaved differently. Of course, I did not test steps e through g, since I did not want to start a factory reset.

I hope you can save your Fire HD 10 with this.

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
@blaacksheep. I'm trying to fix Nova Launcher.

I just uninstalled Nova Launcher V6.x, which is the version I want to use and which I installed directly using my saved apk.

I uninstalled Fire Toolbox 28.6 and reinstalled it.

I tried to use the Custom Launcher subtool to install Nova Launcher but received an error message that all custom launchers are not available, so to speak.

Here's the path info:

This path only contains the empty Google Services folder.

C:\Users\jford\AppData\Local\Datastream\FTB_V28.6\bin

This path contain all the custom launcher apks.

C:\Users\jford\AppData\Local\Datastream\Fire Toolbox V28.6\bin\Custom Launchers. But the Fire Toolbox doesn't see them.

See attached.

What should I do?

Thanks again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mill58:
Thanks for the recomendation. I tried this but it didn't work. The tablet was not restarted at the end and I have to press and hold the power button to shut it down and press the power button to turn it on again. Fortunately I was able to access it using fire toolbox again. So my guess is that is back to normal mode but the screen still black.

I wait around 5 minutes after the initial restart on recovery mode and about 15 minutes after the "factory reset" process (following to your blind steps) but no luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ivorin:
Because you're able to access the tablet via Fire Toolbox, the tablet was probably not factory reset. If it were, USB debugging would be disabled again, and so Fire Toolbox wouldn't be able to access the tablet.

I can understand that attempting to do a factory reset "blind" is a big challenge. So at this point maybe the tablet should just be returned or written off.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
That was my thought too, Ivorin. I don't know why the OP doesn't check out YouTube videos for a possible solution, there are many suggestions on there? I don't think he can return it to Amazon if it still has the toolbox on it. I thought if you hold volume UP and and power buttons simultaneously, it would boot into Android recovery screen.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mill58:
Yes, I thought the same. A replacement will arrive but at the end of the month but to be honest I will avoid the use of fire toolbox on this specific model. I used Fire toolbox on 4 different Fire 8 HD tablets in the past without any issues but this one turned really bad in a matter of minutes.

I said in my previous posts that the "basic solutions" are not working at all. I have already tried to boot it in recovery mode using the buttons and the fire toolbox option also I tried all those "useful" tips like spamming the power button or holding the power button from 20 to 40 seconds and none of those worked. The result is the same black screen all the time and not even the amazon logo in any mode however the tablet is on and USB debugging is enable while its on normal mode and is not enable when it boots on recovery mode.

This seems to be something else. You are right, returning the tablet is not an option for me (I'm not from USA) and is more expensive for me to sent it back than buy another one.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Flauxhol:
Hello! I have an question. I am using a custom Launcher with Fire OS 7.3.x in my Fire 10 2021 With the New toolbox 28.6 navigation Button trick: but my New Home Button got really small: ist there a way to increase the Button size?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
Hey Mill58, I sent you a conversation request, click on the envelope icon in the upper right hand corner.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mill58:
Thanks a lot exlr8. I did all that and also followed this video

and I was able to factory reset it but now I not able to access it using fire toolbox as USB debugging is off. The screen still black so at this point my guess is that screen is ruined. Is strange but looks like its a hardware problem. The tablet has the screen on so less that one hour.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mill58:
Thanks a lot exlr8. I did all that and also followed this video

and I was able to factory reset it but now I not able to access it using fire toolbox as USB debugging is off.

After the factory reset and pressing the power button several times I can hear the tablet giving me instructions to select the language using the volume button however the screen still black. The factory reset was a success however the problem persits. I can probably discard a software issue at this point.

The screen still black so at this point my guess is that screen/display is damaged/ruined. Is strange but looks like its a hardware problem. The tablet has the screen on for less that one hour.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mydave1:
I apologize for interrupting the previous few posts. But need help, please.

I tried and tried to register my Fire HD10 Plus with Amazon following this instruction. But I could not find 'My Account' in Setting.

So I tried to open Amazon App and it asked me to register, which I did, but it did not work and timed out finally. Obviously I have to sign in 'My Account' first which I could not locate the item.

My device still at 7.3.2.1 with OTA off and Nova Launcher installed. What did I do wrong ?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
An alternate method, sign in on amazon.com, under your name, account and lists, select content and devices, select devices, and register there. Worked for me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mydave1:
Thanks so much for your tip. Unfortunately, my Fire HD10 Plus is not listed so I can't select to register it (when ordered, I unchecked the 'linking' box). Tried your method on both tablet and PC, none worked. Also, there is no option to add a new device.

So, still need to find solution.

I noticed that the tablet's setting menu seems different now than before I fixed it with ToolBox. The current setting menu shows only these: 'Internet, Connect Device, App & Notification, Battery, Display, Sound, Storage, Security & privacy, Profiles & Family Library, Parental Control, Accessibility, Devices Options, Legal & Compliance'.

Also, there is no Owner Name, just Owner.

Looking for solution, hopefully.

Thanks

P.S. Contacted Amazon customer support, their suggestion is to 'reset to factory settings'. If this is the only way, I would like to know how to keep the current FireOS version 7.3.2.1. Any help would be most appreciated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
Good Morning, mydave1. Did you make any changes in the Manage Amazon apps section? Maybe restore everything you disabled and see if that helps. I see in your list you don't have Alexa or Help listed either. I didn't see anything for My Account listed in the Manage Amazon apps section though. I'm a novice at all of this, I had many mistakes getting setup, but blaacksheep was an immense help and hopefully he will be checking in and can offer his guidance. Hope you get it squared away. Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kryga-i9506:
Hi, it seems you have disabled some amazon apps that are necessary to complete the registration.

In this post blaacksheep mentions Shop Amazon as one of the necessary apps.

You can restore Shop Amazon via Toolbox > Main Menu > Manage Amazon Apps > Manual > Simple (Recommended) > Restore Apps
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yup - just re-enable Shop Amazon in the Manage Amazon Apps subtool, and use it to sign in to the store. Then your tablet will be registered. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mydave1:
Good morning exlr8 & Kryga-i9506, and thanks to both of you and to blaacksheep as well.

The restoration of Shop Amazon was not enough, but the complete restoration did the trick. Registration completed successfully. I'm happy, thanks to all of you.

Good news are the old 7.3.2.1 is preserved, and there was an option to disable 'saving wifi password to Amazon'.

The annoyances are more times will be needed to check for what work and what not, and the app I bought yesterday is not compatible with this device. The app is Fieldrunners HD, I had it on an iPad for years. So far, I could not find the version that work on this tablet.

Again, thanks to you all,