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[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] 21cdb:
Every Samsung phone I've ever owned has taken garbage photos, I'm not sure why anyone expected anything different this time around. If they wanted to and were capable of making good camera software, they would have done so already. They are so far behind the curve it's ridiculous.

I'm still taking a chance on this phone and hoping that things will be OK with gcam, but if it's not I'm going straight back to my Pixel 3 XL. There's no excuse for this garbage quality, especially the front facing cameras.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] ajwallia:
I am using OP6T with the stock cam and GCam vs s10+. Few things that I have noticed right away...Samsung definitely over exposes all the time...now over exposure could be from different angles...either the camera is manipulating the overall exposure and adding to it or its simply raising the ISO or shadows by a lot that creates noise (esp at night this is true). Another thing its doing is that its taking out any contrast out of the subject (Pixel and even to some extent OP have lots of it) so the pic looks washed out even in a well lit scene.

Returning my samsung...I think the only competitor to Pixel is P30Pro now
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Googeo:
Experimenting a little bit more with the camera it seems that it is not that bad, but not well programmed..

In some daylight pictures faces looked great and in some other under the same circumstances the faces looked like they are brushed intensively with a nice reduction filter.. I have a pic that a friend looks like a monster... This is not hardware issue otherwise all pics would be bad I guess.. It's just the camera going rogue and not being consistent

I had another 4 galaxy phones in the past and none got that inconsistent quality photos... Disappointed and hope for update
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
No filter

Point and shoot

Oahu, Hawaii
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jamil aboudaher:
Very nice photo ! ?

I don't know why people underestimate the power of galaxy S10's camera, and returning a phone only because the camera has some noise in low light (or other small issues that can be fixed via an update) is one of the dumbest things I've seen.

PS : Night mode will be available on the s10 soon via software update, it may have 25W fast charging as well, as XEETECHCARE said in his video...
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
I was blown away with this pic. First pic I took on this phone too. My two friends took the same pic on their iPhone xs Max and they praised this shot.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] sixline:
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmBUZcwL

My flickr album for s10. Edited mostly on built in editor or photoshop android app. It has a good camera just requires some tweaking
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] EricMartinSoCal:
I have the S10+ and GCam solved every major complaint I had, but I'm also getting a P30 Pro for my second phone. It will be interesting to see what the results are. I think the S10 has the best overall video I've ever used and I do vlogs so of course that's a major factor. The P30 looks like it has some issues with video that need to be fixed in an update. Not sure why it takes Samsung so long to tweak a few small issues. I was with OnePlus for years and it felt like we complained about something in the forums and suddenly they listened and fixed it. The smoothing of fine detail is unacceptable. With GCam I don't have the problem. Exynos is stuck.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] sixline:
Will like to see comparison photos (unedited on auto mode) from both devices.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] VICosPhi:
Check out this RAW image comparison between S9+ Snapdragon and S10+ Exynos. Washed out and blurry image from S10+ Exynos is noticeable.

https://we.tl/t-kwmW4U9ifA
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jamesfitzes:
Rumors have it that note 10 will upgrade the camera systems so you think it's worth it to wait for that? Is it true that the s10 series use the same cameras as the note 9 ?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] vandal4e:
yes it uses the same sensors + new fixed focus wide angle to keep up with Huawei, which it doesn't do
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] FilthyJoker:
Random snap of a cute doggie.

Auto mode with scene optimizer.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jonlad1:
Anyone notice any lag when pressing the shutter button to taking a shot? Exynos on latest update

My s7 was super quick at taking a shot, and could take multiple shots really fast too. Pressing the shutter button on the s10 multiple times only captures one shot every 1-2 seconds or so
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jamil aboudaher:
Actually I noticed it today when taking selfies with my friends using my friend's S10+. And it's also the case for my S9 most of the time when taking selfies. Rear camera also has a little lag sometimes when taking a lot of photos, but not as much as the front camera...
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Lil B Rules All:
I have been experimenting with the wide angle lens and have noticed some distortion but overall it is great!
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] bounddyy:
The most funky thing about this phone is the portrait photos. In clear day light the persons skin is just blurred idk why. It seems like it's trying to soften it but just makes it look like they have bumps...
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] driodman_87:
Most of the photos I have taken have been pretty decent, the one you uploaded looks like there is some aliasing going on not sure if this is due to compression from uploading to the site, or it reducing the resolution, but I have noticed the low light performance has not been great and the telephoto and ultra wide cam's seem to be a little gimmicky, the primary cam is the the one with the best quality picture and video but here is on I took with the ultra wide lens:[IMG="ultrawidelens"]https://i.ibb.co/BTKz1RD/20190409-162449.jpg[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] schriss:
well, get ready for other problems, most notably red tint everywhere, video pan stutter and no 60fps in 4K, also very low bitrate. Nothing is perfect.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] schriss:
What do you guys think about these photos? (and video) https://youtu.be/KyI55bqJsJw?t=259
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jonlad1:
Yeah after more playing around, its really disappointing. Tried turning all the picture enhancements off and trying internal and SD storage but its still really laggy on front or rear cameras. 0.5 and up to 1 second between pressing the shutter button and photo taking.

My s7 is rapid in the same scene. Anyone else notice this?

Hope they can resolve with an update
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] skit777:
Photo quality in my opinion is terrible!!
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] abbazaba:
Very disappointed in IQ. My S7 was apparently way better than I thought, and it wasn't as good as my old LG G4!
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jonlad1:
So I worked it out I think, camera seems to have much more lag Motion Photo option on - no lag on the S7 with this option enabled.

Even still, the camera isnt as 'snappy' as the S7 even without this option on

Samsung - please work on the camera responsiveness!!
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] krusty_dc:
Do you guys even own an S10? I have been snapping photos all week, and I am getting good shots.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jonlad1:
Good for you mate.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] chong67:
I have the S8, Note 9 and now the S10. I like the photo quality on the S10. So good in fact that I am not doing any more HDR on it.

Attached a photo I shoot with my new S10 past week.

I do have HDR and Scene Optimizer turn on and nothing edited.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] vsnlweb:
I'm pretty happy with the camera. Usually when I show people the pics I take of them they're pretty impressed with the quality.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] King_Moon_Racer:
Stuck in the same boat. White balance and color accuracy is funky. Yellows and Greens in particular seem to get way too much saturation. I can address this in post processing, but I'd rather not have to.

That being said, I installed the Google Camera APK on my S10. Wow... the white balance and color accuracy is a bajillion times better. Not sure what's going on with the developers at Samsung, but they really need to get on the ball and address the stock Samsung Camera App in regards to color accuracy, white balance, and saturation. I like the app. I like the features. I love the 3 lenses.

Google Camera app does not have full access to the 3 lenses (yet). Hopefully the devs porting the Gcam app for Galaxy S10 will have it working with all 3 lenses in the near future. If so, I'll be completely happy to ditch the stock Samsung Camera App because Gcam delivers incredibly lifelike colors right off the bat without any post processing fixes.

The attached pic shows a comparison between an image taken with Gcam and the same image taken with the stock Samsung Camera App. Gcam on top / Samsung on bottom. Gcam is color accurate and lifelike whereas Gcam is way off with the yellows and greens.

https://imgur.com/a/Lv2etg3

If the image doesn't link, it's at imgur /a/Lv2etg3
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] more2come:
Latest firmware update with dedicated night mode brought some improvements to the exynos Galaxy S10. HDR looks much better in difficult light situations, more details in the shadows, a little less overly smoothed noise. Sammy is getting there, step by step!
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] mains75:
Could you send some sample? Is it better even on Snap version?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] kyoceralover:
From https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4371509

DXO, looks at sensor potential (numbers), camera features, shutter lag etc. and not at actual photos, most phones have poor over-processed jpeg algorithms with high NR, that's why old phones like the 950, 1020 and 808 still fare so well because Nokia prioritised natural processing (they even said they wanted a DSLR look to the photos), the Panasonic CM1 also delivered more natural results.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] rmn.br:
I like so far S10 :good:

2x zoom (in camera app) and HDR and Beauty mode off
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jocaboss:
Loving wide angle lens
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] DaSoul:
Stock cam.

I quite like the camera quality.

https://imgur.com/q4HlRfl

https://imgur.com/MuvjLsm

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[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] RinCEWinG:
Exact problem here!! My "old" s7 takes photos so much faster!!
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Spewy1:
I really love the camera on my S10.

I have taken some amazing shots... Here are just 2 I am particularly pleased with.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] RinCEWinG:
Beautiful!!

Exynos? Or snapdragon?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jamil aboudaher:
Exynos and snapdragon have the exact same camera quality, no difference here.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Spewy1:
Thanks.... Exynos
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] RinCEWinG:
That seems not to be like you say....

https://youtu.be/7zxnCK5LOu0
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] more2come:
Thing is, both SoC have a dedicated co-processor for image processing. The one in the Qualcomm SoC is a bit more capable. Recent updates improved image quality of the Exynos version considerably though.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jamil aboudaher:
Honestly I didn't find that much of a difference, the slight difference is in colours, and sometimes the photos look identical.

I think there shouldn't be a real difference between the two since it's not related to the processing power, it's related to the software and the exynos 9820 is a very capable processor anyways.

Months ago, I took the same pic on my S9 and my friend's S9, both are exynos, and there was a small difference in colours as well. So it's normal I think...
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] DaSoul:
I think the quality is very very good:

https://imgur.com/gallery/gWikNc0

All images have been taken with the stock app, auto settings, smartphone in hand, the last two images even through aquarium window.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] cem_jimmy:
S10 exnos

Night shot original
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] TomLopez:
Nice shot!!

Nizza?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jamil aboudaher:
Is this with night mode or with auto?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] cem_jimmy:
With night mode
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] DaSoul:
Exynos, standard cam, auto settings.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Jannomag:
I just tested the night mode for the first time out of my hands without tripod or something else.

It's very good, even though it was windy and I definitely shakes more than a bit.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] bassgenerator:
today night shoot. only one street light.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/39fe961271379514
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] sm3sher:
Captured a flying pigeon with my S10
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] SuperBrolySSJ:
taken a couple of days ago
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Nikola Jovanovic:
Make sure you are benefiting from hdr, use it on off or use it on always.. Also I found if the ambient light is low in kelvin (under 6800k), or kinda blueish use the first filter to give a warmer tint to your photos.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] naset:
How to set always on hdr?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Nikola Jovanovic:
Click on the field where is the text, or just be sure to miss the dot that moves from off to on.

Go to camera/gear/ click on hdr text/field and you will get access to another level off settings. I hope I've helped.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] bassgenerator:
yesterday. night sight.

https://ibb.co/7CJGv2X

s10+ exynos
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] sai444:
S10+ exynos
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] DaSoul:
Exynos, auto mode
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] fairbaken:
I am suuuuuuper disappointed by the camera on my s10e exynos. I really hope Samsung will fix their DSP algorithm...

Here a little gallery: https://imgur.com/gallery/SxFaCKm
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Nikola Jovanovic:
Have you seen Snapdragon version ?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] fairbaken:
Not in RL but I watched the youtube video where they compare snapdragon vs exynos.

I am sure that Samsung put in some AI (maybe even on hardware level ?) to "enhance" the photos, but totally failed with that. Even the GCAM on my S10e produces these weird blurry artifacts - even though the image in general looks better with the HDR+ of the GCAM.

On the flipside, the video functionality is awesome. Buttery smooth and cirsp video.

I even thought about creating an app that takes a short video and then extract the frames, do some hdr and some merging and voila sharper images. *in my dreams
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] alexon.cunha:
No issues on the pictures here. Except front cam at low light, wich really sucks but is usable.

If we could use a properly ported GCAM, I'm sure it would stand incredible!

The first is a shot from very close beer can

The second, for comparison, was shot using RN5 Global GCAM Night Mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] fairbaken:
one more photo from today which shows this overprocessing: https://imgur.com/gallery/05YA8md

without any filter enabled.

don't get me wrong here: when looking at the overall picture and not zooming in at all, they all look ok-ish.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] umx:
S10+ auto stock cam
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] cellphoneage:
Agree. Especially in the portrait mode, Pixel uses sharpness as a depth indicator, perfectly recognizes a person at the scene.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] lorenzo122:
Hello everyone, i have seen "Astro" function on Pixel 4's camera and the result is awesome. Do you think is it possible to take same pictures with S10? Is the sensor able to? If yes, have you some examples with manual settings ?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Phone_Junkie:
Pixel 3 user here and picked up the S10 Plus just to try something different, not replace. I knew going in that I would favor the Pixel's pictures but I am truly disappointed in the Galaxy. My last Samsung phone was the S7.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Kasvinda:
Pixel 2 camera is amazing. Samsung is so bad at handling high contrast shots.

---------- Post added at 09:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 AM ----------

Just look how crispy the images from Pixel. Selfies in galaxy make me feel im living in 2010. Colors are so washed out. I still take my pixel 2 when i go out.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] juliusjadey:
The picture quality in S10 plus is incredible.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] MoneyFist:
Hey guys. Here's a side by side picture showing the Mi Note 10 vs the Galaxy S10.

Unfortunately I've had to lower the size of the pics to 10MB because that's the highest the image host accepts.

On the right I included a cropped section from each camera. The Mi Note 10 has the higher megapixels

Notes: HDR auto enabled for both cameras

AI mode on for the Mi Note 10

Both pictures taken on the standard lens
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] geekfreak789:
The Photo quality is quite good.

Unfortunately the camera app is quite bad. I wish there was an working G-Cam port for the exynos version of the phone.

But it will never reach the quality of my Pixel 3.

I could upload some examples of the photoquality of the S10 (exynos). Just ask for it. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] PMad:
I went from the Pixel 2 XL to the Pixel 3 XL then to the S10.

When you are viewing the photos on the phone or in a shrunken state (not the full size image), they are, for the most part, decent pictures. there's definitely some flaws here and there but nothing too terrible, however... Small details are gone in all 10 series images, including the Note 10. In fact, this is something i've noticed all the way back to the Note 4. I wouldnt doubt it if it goes further back.

Samsung likes to blend the pixels on a much smaller scale. I believe it is their attempt at removing noise from the images. Their post processing technique removes small details. You can actually see this for yourself. Here's how:

1) Install the GCam on any Samsung device (make sure you get the right one).

2) Set your Samsung camera to 4:3 since the GCam doesnt support samsung's full size images.

3) In an average lit area (typically where i see this occur and where most of my images are taken), using your Samsung camera, take a picture of using your main camera of somebody with a beard, or your own head in the mirror. Make sure the subject is 2 to 5 feet away.

4) Without moving your phone, switch to the Google Camera and take the exact same picture.

5) Lastly, zoom all the way in on these images, look at a dark spot on the hairs. You will notice that on the google camera, you can see pretty much every hair where on the Samsung phone, its just a multicolored blob.

I constantly see this issue all over the internet, especially when somebody is complaining about the image quality, but i never really see anyone bring up this specific issue, yet this is the primary component of samsung phones making crappy pictures (imo). The quickest way to notice this is with selfies (they apply the same post processing). Even with beauty mode off, it still looks like its on because of the post processing these phones do, there's some smoothing effect that totally obliterates a lot of the small details.

I havent found any uncompressed images from the S20's yet to really validate that this is still the case on those devices, although from the images i've seen, it looks like its surely there.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] jamil aboudaher:
I have an S9, I tried many versions of Gcam and the results are the same, Google's processing tends to show every flaw on the face and even more, like I look at least 4 to 5 years older when I take photos of myself on Gcam. The photos from stock samsung camera app are balanced, see when you post your pic on social media the details will be gone anyways and the processing will remain, which is overly done in Google's software, and sometimes the noise will ruin the whole thing which will never be an issue with Samsung's camera.

I find the same results when I watch a comparison between google and samsung smartphones, Google just over processes the image so you think that your galaxy is soft. So this isn't an issue.

The photos from my S9's front and back cameras are awesome and detailed so I don't think this would be an issue in newer models because they're definitely sharper.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] Gingew:
quality of photo on this phones are impressed. I like it all pictures
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] DragonQ:
It's interesting that a lot of people in this thread are of the opinion that the camera isn't actually that good. This seems completely the opposite to most reviews, which suggested the S10 family's cameras were nearly as good as those found in the Pixel lineup. I know there are differences between the image processing on the Exynos and Snapdragon chipsets (there's at least one video on YouTube comparing them) but I'm not sure that could account for the complaints seen in this thread. Has anyone tried a different app? One would assume the stock camera app would be the best at utilising the phone's features but you never know. I also vaguely remember reviews saying video and audio quality were better on the S10/S10e compared to the Pixel 4 - has anyone tried looking at this?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Real Life Review] MMarkkk:
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[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] LGSilva:
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Update

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I'm updating this thread so I don't spam the board.

After trying all kinds of software solutions, resets and all I gave up.

It's a hardware problem (as far I can tell) and there is no way to fix

it unless you replace one board on the phone.

This is how I found the problem:

I got another shadow from eBay with a broken screen but working wifi.

I swapped the main board and guess what? No wifi. The only thing I could think is that the other board on the phone, the one connected to the screen and circle pad thing was the problem and probably were the wifi part of the phone resides on.

Once I replaced that part the wifi worked with both boards.

If anyone is a hardware expert or just for curiosity want to see some pictures from both working and non-working boards, PM me.

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Original Post

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Hello guys, I got a T-mobile Shadow and I can't get the wifi to work. On the wireless info says "driver not loaded".

I tried to re-flash it with the original firmware several times (ok... 4 times).

I tried to use the beta version of wm6.1.

I tried to reset and hard-reset the phone over and over.

I tried to put the "wifiinit.lnk" on my startup folder and even run wifiinit.exe.

I tried to mtty it to check for bad nand block but the commands will not work (info 8). This password will work -> BsaD5SeoA

I can't return it to T-mobile

because it was a phone with a broken screen that I bought from eBay.

So this is my last resort before I give up on wifi:

Does anyone know anything I could do to try to fix it?

Thanks :)
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
This is kind of an expensive solution, and should be used as last resort, you could try getting a WiFi MicroSD card. I'm guessing only the WiFi radio is having problems even though it says it's the driver.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] LGSilva:
Thanks ND4SPD for the reply.

I also think it's something wrong with the radio part and I guess as long t-mobile don't release an update I will stuck without wifi.

Keep the good work with the 6.1 rom! :)

I'm using it right now, so long neo interface!

P.S.: If someone find a solution please post it here.