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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tonino2424:
yeah, no one from amazon told me i had to tap on silk browser to see it until the 5th person i spoke to. They are idiots.

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New issue now. I can connect my pc to the tablet and i can transfer files from pc to tablet but when i looked under my file manager app i dont see the file i transferred. Any ideas how to fix this plz?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] raghu1989:
HI, so Im new to this. I installed the Newest version of the toolbox. However, when i finish install and when it loads, i can only see the welcome to the Toolbox screen with only two options. Take tour and Uninstall previous versions of Toolbox. I take the tour and after reaching the end of the 5 screens of the tour, it stops responding. It doesn't even close properly. Can anyone please help?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jd45321:
Thanks, I got worried about losing my Google account (have email going back many years) so I went with Newpipe

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Thanks, just curious, can you let us know what the new method is that doesn't use automate? If it would give Amazon the ability to neutralize it, than I understand?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] robgee789:
Hey guys once this tool is just to make the fire tablet a normal android tab will it still receive updates from amazon?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ConfuciusTse:
OMG, THANKS to the developer, this worked like a charm and breathed new life into two tablets for my kids!

One question though, one Amazon Fire HD 10 9th Gen worked perfectly and basically acts like a vanilla Android tablet now, which is just amazing. However, the other tablet is a 7th Gen and I can't get the Nova launcher to stay as default, it keeps going back to the stock Amazon launcher. I can "open" Nova and use it, but once you hit the home button it drops me right back into the Amazon launcher again. I've done a full reset of the tablet and installed Fire Toolbox from scratch but it keeps happening. Any suggestions?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ninask8m:
i dont see the link to download the fire toolbox
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lewmur:
It is there in the first post. You just have to keep scrolling down till you see "Downloads".
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] king200:
I had the same problem with 7th Gen . I gave it up and got the 10th generation.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tonino2424:
Hi Datastream,

Just curious if the toolbox can disable / hide the new device dashboard from appearing on tablet using the toolbox. I prefer it to load right to my homepage?

Also, is there a way to backup/restore via software or anything that will enable me to backup/restore apps, system settings and i guess everything without root? Plz let me know. I appreciate it.

TIA
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Well, I'm glad to hear that everything worked out. If you have any further questions or concerns please do let me know! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Alright, now that the new XDA is up and running (by the way, it looks clean and I really like the new look) I just wanted to jump on here and let you guys know that fixes are on the way for V10.0 that should hopefully fix some issues you guys are experiencing. Do you guys have any further input as to what else needs fixing?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hopefully this will be fixed in the next update. Please be patient with me! ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tonino2424:
Datastream, Can you answer my question above if there is or will be a way to remove disable the device dashboard? Also, about bkp,restore question. If you could let me know I would greatly appreciate. TIA
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes. There is the option to disable Device Dashboard under the Manage Everything Amazon tab. There is also a tab to backup/restore your device in the toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tonino2424:
Can I use manage everything amazon tab to disable Device Dashboard only? If yes, how please? Also, does the toolbox backup restore everything, including system settings, apps...etc plz?

Thx for the quick response. Appreciate it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Wrrryyy:
This seems like a wonderful tool and works great up until I try to update anything on the Play Store. I have a 2016 and 2018 Fire HD 8 and they both ultimately leave me with the same problem: Trying to check for updates in the Play Store gives me an "Error checking for updates" message no matter how many times I refresh. I've tried clearing the data/cache for the Play Store, removing and adding my Google account, and other various fixes I've seen online to no avail. Ultimately, I end up having to go back to the stock OS which makes these tablets just absolutely suck. Has anyone else encountered this? I tried searching this thread but didn't find anything.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tavuslokus:
^ this same thing happens on my HD 10 (7th) and (9th) gen. It must be a software issue. But yet to find any solutions. If anyone can point us the right direction would be appreciated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can connect to the toolbox, and then select Manage Everything Amazon. next click Manual under Disable Everything Amazon. Then click the box next to Device Dashboard and then select Disable Selected. You're Done. As for backup restoring everything, I haven't played with that enough to know exactly what gets restored and what gets lost. I've only backed up settings because it's a good practice. Never restored anything.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
A couple of people have mentioned this. The PlayStore worked fine with earlier versions of the Toolbox, namely v8.x and v9.x. You could try Removing Google Services with the current version of the Toolbox, then installing v9.x or even v8.x of Toolbox and using the older version to Install Google Services on the tablet. Then let the services update themselves for a few minutes before logging in to Google.

I think there might be a problem with the version of Google Services that's included with Toolbox in v10 interacting with differing versions of FireOS. That's just my best guess but it's something to try.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Wrrryyy:
I had this issue with 9.X. haven't tried 10 yet. But I can definitely give 8.X a try because why not.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You had mentioned a couple different tablets and years so I really can't be sure. I'm only guessing but if you feel like trying then go for it. I still have all the versions of Toolbox going back to 7.x so I just have to switch directories to use an earlier version. (I tend to blatently ignore suggestions/instructions to remove earlier versions because I'm just defiant. Sometimes it helps and sometimes it hurts.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] robgee789:
Do you still receive updates on your tablet after using this tool or will the updates cause any issues?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Wrrryyy:
I tried 8.x, 9.x, and the latest tool and all gave me the same issue with error about not being able to check for updates in the Play Store. Can't believe I didn't think of this before as a workaround, but I factory reset the tablet and install the Play Store the hard way - manually with APK files following this guide: https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/10/03/install-play-store-amazon-fire-tablet/

This worked great for the Play Store and after downloading all my apps, I used the Fire Toolbox to do everything else I wanted to. The end result is perfect. Hope this helps anyone with the same issue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] robgee789:
Just used this too on my fire hd 10 and in 5 min stock android this tool couldn't get any easier, awesome job mate
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] robgee789:
Does anyone know how to install prime video after amazon stuff is removed?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes. Go back into Toolbox and under Manage Everything Amazon, click Manual on the Restore Everything Amazon tab. Now select Amazon Prime Video and Shop Amazon. Enable Selected. Now on the tablet, open Shop Amazon and sign in. Your Prime Video will now work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] robgee789:
Again mate your a legend 👍👍
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jd45321:
@blaacksheep,

The titles are a little misleading for Manage Everything Amazon. May I suggest the following changes:

"Manage Everything Amazon" better "Add/Remove Amazon Services & Apps"

"Disable Everything Amazon" better "Remove Amazon Services & Apps"

"Automatic" "Manual" better "ALL" "Select"

"Restore Everything Amazon" better "Add Amazon Services & Apps"

"Automatic" "Manual" better "ALL" "Select"

BTW: great program, can't wait to see what's next.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You're giving credit to the wrong person, for I am not the creator of this wonderful toolbox. The credit all belongs to @Datastream33. He pops in here regularly and answers a whole bunch of people, then goes off to work on the program I suppose, before returning once again. It's been a few days since we've seen him so keep your eyes open. He should be back around soon. :cool:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ConfuciusTse:
THANK YOU!

Any chance to have the HD 10 7th Gen launcher select Nova as default? That keeps reverting back to Amazon's launcher regardless of what I select.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mwb928:
Hi,

The v10.0 System backup to computer still is not working. After the backup to computer process start, the saving the backup "Backup********" to the computer never finish. The circle keep on rotating after half an hour, never completed and shows OK. Still has problem backup to computer, the backup to tablet SD card is working. Please fix.

Thanks.

Amazon Fire HD10 (9th) v7.3.1.6
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mwb928:
Don't know what is going on. Uninstall the software and reinstall, its work again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, I suppose it depends on which method is utilized. The Launcher Hijack method shouldn't revert back to Fire Launcher, but imposes a 5 second delay. The Downgrade Fire Launcher method will revert back after a reboot, but doesn't force a 5 second delay.

Maybe we can find a way to prevent Fire Launcher (using the Downgrade Launcher method) from updating itself after a reboot. hmm...🤞
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, that's strange! Glad you were able to get it working though! Nicely done! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hello friend,

These are some good suggestions. It was planned for the tool to be reworked in the next update (after the micropatch being released in a few days), and I'd be more then happy to change the labels to something more appropriate. Thank you for taking the time to make these suggestions! I'll see what I can do! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Thanks friend! Glad you are enjoying what the Toolbox has to offer! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I know right? @blaacksheep is indeed a legend! I really do appreciate the help they have provided!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
In the next update, the Play Services apks will be downgraded back to the one included with V8.2. Hopefully this will fix things until the proper apks can be added. Anyways, glad to hear everything else worked as intended!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] anhyeuviolet:
This tool is work perfect on my new HD8+.

Just one more thing. Is there a chance to replace default Books with the Amazon Kindle App from Play Store ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I would suggest:

1) "Manage Everything Amazon" - This looks fine and I don't see a reason to change it.

2) "Disable Everything Amazon" - Maybe reword this to "Disable Amazon Services" and drop the "Everything" part.

3) "Restore Everything Amazon" - Again, maybe reword this to "Restore Amazon Services", dropping the "Everything".

The word "everything" in the sub-options looks like it's all or nothing. A new user doesn't necessarily know that there are more sub-options from which to choose until they click the "everything" button. Maybe use the "..." notation to indicate there are further options.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jd45321:
Hand slapping head
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dwcasey:
Toolbox worked great on a 2020 KFHD8. However, on a 2018 KFHD8 it seems that even though I can disable Amazon Services just fine and install Google Play/Framework, I'm not fully recognized if that makes sense. For example, after signing in to Google Play Store, when I go to my purchases, it sees them (as in it knows I purchased them) but it won't let me install them without re-purchasing.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] smartiq2000:
Thanks for the awesome software @Datastream33. Loving it.

My Fire HD 8 Plus (10th gen) also keeps reverting the launcher from Nova to Fire-Launcher. I haven't figured out the trigger as Nova stays the launcher through reboots, etc; About twice a week I will end up back at Fire Launcher (but only had the tablet for 9 days). I have NOT disabled the amazon services and done anything other than install google services+a few play store items+switched to nova launcher.

Even with the minor hassle of switching back to Nova via the toolkit, I am happy :).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bucksitter:
Don't know if it's been addressed, but is the problem of these later model tablets not allowing push notifications for any non-Amazon apps something the Toolbox might be able to help correct at some point? You know, apps installed side-loaded or from the Play Store after it's been added, especially messaging/communications apps? That's tops on my wish list.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] minicadriver:
hello, i'm new to this, but i managed to run your toolbox without any problem, i only did custom launcher and disable amazon's services tho (and installing Google ofc)

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but i want to ask a question, does the disabled Amazon apps still runs in the background? when i go into the memory section on the settings, it list a lot of amazon apps, (so much so that in idle i only have like 500 - 600 Megs to work with) so is there a way to disable them too? i think with some freed up memory, the tablet as a whole would run better.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
From what I understand about Android, the disabled Amazon apps aren't still running in the background. They cannot be removed because you need root access to uninstall them. Disabling them is the next best thing. They aren't running or using up RAM. There are still quite a few Amazon apps that are still running (by necessity) though.

Any modern operating system will use all available memory in order to make things run well. Don't worry that there isn't much "apparent" free memory. A lot of that "used" memory is for things like cache and buffers. It can be released as required by other programs. This is the best we can do with the Fire tablets atm. Maybe someday soon we'll be able to get root and install a vanilla ROM.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bessario:
Hi,

Is there any way to enable fire OS update still after applying toolbox, because on check it's returning me an error of failed update (probably it's needed to start a service via toolbox if it's possible?).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes, you can. Reconnect to Toolbox and on page 2, click "Modify System Settings". In there, enable "OTA Updates" and maybe "Automatic Updates".

Be aware that doing any system update will probably undo your customizations and launcher choice. You'll need to use Toolbox again to redo your setting choices.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jcp2:
Running FW v7.3.1.7. Toolbox 10.1 doesn't disable dashboard icon from navbar (even though it says it disabled it). Also, disable navbar doesn't work either. Am I missing something?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] virajk:
Does anyone know if we can cast video from YouTube/Netflix/Prime etc to Chromecast after installing Google play services?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nooboff:
Just tried a full system backup. It failed 4 times on the validation step. Restarted the device and Toolbox between attempts.

For the 5th attempt, ran it full screen. Why should that make a difference? Well, it did. 5th time was the charm. Worked!

So flushed with success, tried the restore. Worked too! First time.

Thank you, Datastream.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kudou Shinichi:
where is the account section ? when click on manager account to invoke account section ?

Fire HD8 2020 7.3.1.7
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kleriger:
Hello,

has anyone had experience with ethernet adapters? I have tried my adapter, which I also use for my Galaxy S9+. Unfortunately, the Fire HD 10 does not respond to it at all. With the S9+ the ethernet connection is detected without any problems.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] s3nr1:
Can SOMEONE please let me know how to make Audible working. After I disabled everything but Audible and PrimeVideo. Audible does not open (hangs grey screen), PrimeVideo is Ok
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] johnbessa:
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sublim3style3:
hey im glad to see this thread is still active. I'm having trouble uninstalling apps that are stock, id like to remove some bloatware. is this possible on 5.6.8.0? I have deactivated updates. I have also used cmd to type in some commands to force delete but it comes up with that notorious FAILURE INTERNAL ERROR message. Mainly trying to get rid of alexa and goodreads
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] beggehorn:
Anyone here having success using Pushbullet on a Fire HD 10 (2019) with Toolbox (10.1) installed?

I can download, install and login without issue, however my Fire HD does not appear as a "device" in my Pushbullet account. However it does send/receive test messages sent to "all devices" from either my Pixel 4a or Windows PC.

One other oddity is that the Fire HD will also receive test messages sent from itself when sending to "all devices". This doesn't happen on my Pixel or Windows PC.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tracea06:
I have used the toolbox on my fire 8hd. Now when I go into google to do a search, it will search but when I click on links it says "no app found to open url".

Maybe a stupid question but do I need to download another app?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
My first thought is that maybe you removed the Silk Browser under Manage Everything Amazon. If you did so and did not install a browser of your choice from the Playstore, this would produce the results you are seeing. If so, install a browser and try again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] zandercatz1980:
Hi all im wondering if you can help im trying to make nova launcher my default launcher but it wont let me check the box to disable the fire launcher when i click on it, could someone help me with this as i would love to have nova launcher up and running video of problem
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hello friend,

You don't need to worry about selecting it, the Toolbox has done this for you. Please just click the "Yes" button below the radiobutton to execute the tool. Hope this helps, and please let me know if you have further questions! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
Hi Datastream,

Always so nice to see you being active here in the forum, you are truly a great app developer. Thanks so much for all of your efforts and support. Stay Safe !

David
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Barstool Prophet:
Is there *any* way to run the Toolbox without connecting via USB cable? E.g. installing an .APK or something?

Reason I ask is that my USB jack is hosed (my fault), and while I can charge via the USB port, the PC no longer recognizes it, despite all settings being correct.

My attempts at installing the Play Store on this 7th gen Fire have failed. While I can log into Google now, there's no Play Store icon to be found.

TIA.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Well, thank you very much David! I love interacting with this amazing community, when time allows of course! ;)

Hope you are having a terrific day so far! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
So far everything has been good, hopefully the same goes for you. Please Stay Safe !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, the only way I could see would be to debug wirelessly. Unfortunately, the Toolbox at this time doesn't support debugging wirelessly. May be something to look into for a future update. Sorry my friend.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
If you have multiple launhers installed, is there a way to switch between them on the Fire or is that something it lacks vs. plain Android?

If not, has anyone tried a launcher switcher app?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yeah, everything is going well. Lovely day so far! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
There's an app on the Play store called Vanced tube. Is that the same as Youtube Vanced, or just someone trying to trick people.There are a few others with similar names.

And have you heard of anyone that didn't create an account through Youtube Vanced having their accounts deleted by using Vanced? I've got a couple hundred subscriptions on my YT account that I'd hate to lose.

I tried Newpipe a couple years ago but at the time it was a hassle to get your library copied over from Youtube to Newpipe. You had to save a file and import it. And of course it didn't auto-update with anything you did on youtube, so you'd have to do it again to update. Does it still work the same way?

Also does anyone use the Youtube Smart TV on their Fire? How well does it work?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, depends on the generation. 7 and below are strictly locked down to Fire Launcher, while there is a hidden setting activity to change launchers it doesn't have any effect.

Gens 8 and above allow you to choose what launcher you want to set as default if you have multiple launchers installed and Fire Launcher is disabled.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
The vanced tube on the Play Store is actually NewPipe. Someone appears to have taken the code, placed ads in, and then uploaded it to the play store. Very deceptive.

Yeah, NewPipe still works in that way. It doesn't sync with YouTube which can be a downside, but means it doesn't rely on Google Services or connecting a Google Account. However, Team NewPipe have made some impressive changes to Newpipe as of recently. I would suggest giving it a look over, if you have the time of course.

Smart YouTube TV is essentially a port of the YouTube app (with ads removed, and other modifications) you would find on Smart TVs and consoles. Not really a good experience on the Fire Tablets but why not have it as an option? Right?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
I installed the Play store but not the Google Assistant. Is there anything I'm missing other than the search bar and Google Now?

Also I noticed I have no way to get to Google settings like you can with other devices. Is that because I didn't install the Assistant, or did Amazon remove that stuff from the OS, or is there just no way to with a Fire? I was looking for it to disable the usual Google data collection stuff (at least as much as they allow) like I always do with a new Android device. Or is there none of that going on because of one of the above reasons?