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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Chellebell1689:
Hello! I just followed the tutorial and did the recommended changes the tutorial gives. It changed the launcher, however, it did not disable the fire launcher. How do I disable the fire launcher? I do see the Nova launcher (the one I chose), but I have to open it as if it's an app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Chellebell1689:
Disregard, I was missing the step to go back and "install the launcher again" so that I got the directions for Automate. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] questionesse:
I'm also about to buy an HD10 or HD10 plus, probably refurbished from amazon over Black Friday.

Any idea with which Software version they're coming to gauge what's possible with the Fire Toolbox?

From what I'm getting from the entry post, worst case could be if it's on the 7.3.2.2+ OS version that OS updates are no longer prevented and system apps are no longer disabled?

-> So play store could still be installed, ads removed and custom launcher be used in any case?

Though I'd need a long-term solution as I won't be close to the device to troubleshoot in case Amazon changes something - which is why the OS updates still worry me.

There are no workarounds for this yet?

Otherwise any new OS Update could mean breaking things like with the FireTV sticks that are getting harder and harder to use with custom launchers without rooting?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] uforotmane:
Great, you made my day! Your work is fantastic (y)

(y)(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MALditoNica:
New version of Google Play services (22.44.17) fixed a few issues for me, on a Fire 8 HD 12th gen. Specially Gmail working as intended.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gripschi:
I had my way with it for a week. Sadly the display got defect, white lines on half of it. But it worked for my use flawless.

Hopefully the second one held longer...the support is a pain in the ass if the device is not linked.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] XYZ0815:
Hi,

I have bought a Fire HD 10 (32GB Black) directly from Amazon on Prime Day back in July 2022.

So far I have never used it which means the packaging is still factory sealed.

Is therey any way to identify which firmware version it contains,

based on the packaging without openening and using it?

So if it might still contain a firmware version lower than 7.3.2.2?

Maybe something like the serial number?

Usually for this type of devices there is a kind of cut in date / minimum serial number were production switches to a certain firmware version.

Having a look on the packaging I can see the following kind of information:

- UPC

- DSN

- LOT CODE

- MAC Address

Thanks and best regards
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gripschi:
Should be the 2021 Device like mine from this sale. So it will most likey work. But beside starting it without acess to wlan if you linked it by buying, you can check in the options.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Sorry my friend, that I'm not too sure about.

I believe the firmware can only be determined by reading the build.prop file via ADB.

If you do decide to open it, remember to unplug your router before turning on the tablet for the first time. Just in case it is on a lower firmware, you don't want it updating. Best of luck and really hope its on a pre 7.2.3.3 firmware! 🤞
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Awesome! Glad to hear that! So play services works on 12th gen huh?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hey, that's whats up!

I'm about to pull out the Uno reverse card! You also just made my day!

Glad to see you like the update, my friend. Making a positive impact on someone's day is what we strive for! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Dang, the pixels on the display died that fast? Was it a "new" tablet as well? :unsure:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] spinach.chin:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is it safe to register to an Amazon account after I turn OTA off? Is it OK to leave automatic updates on, as long as OTA is off?

Edit: OK I see that registering is fine, but what's the difference between automatic updates and OTA? Is OTA only to update firmware?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gripschi:
yeah new fire hd10 version 2021 bought on monday
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] callumw:
I just picked up a 2022 Fire 8 HD Plus 12th Gen running 8.2.something and was getting worried that I wouldn't be able to make it useful for it's intended purpose as I'd read there were difficulties in converting newer gen Fire tablets.

It was bought to replace an old 2015 Tab-E that wheezed along struggling to use a Home Assistant dashboard as well as access to our Plex media/music and YouTube (via Adblock Browser), in a guest room so they can relax in their space with music, watch some content or just use it as a clock/alarm.

First attempt at it running the automated scripts didn't work and I still had the lock screen with ads and the Play Store wouldn't launch properly or let me log in, so I decided to leave it for a couple of days before coming back to it with fresh eyes. Today I did a soft factory reset re-registered the tablet (you have to :( ) and came at it again, but from a different angle.

The second go I manually installed the Play Store following the steps in this video and this time, after manually downloading specific versions of the apk's, I was able to log into Google and get the latest Nova, Home Assistant, Plex, Greenify and Digital Wallpaper (clock) apps directly from the play store.

It took a couple of attempts, but the APKs that worked for me to get the Play Store working were:

com.google.android.gsf.login_7.1.2-25_minAPI23(nodpi)

com.google.android.gsf_10-6494331-29_minAPI29(nodpi)

com.google.android.gms_22.45.16_(100400-489045761)

com.google.android.vending_33.2.12-21_0_PR_487986790-83321210_minAPI121

Once I had that working I then followed the steps in this video for the fire toolbox steps (ignoring the google play store part) and it worked .. ish. It needed a little bit of nudging to finish up, but it worked :)

I set Nova at the home button launcher then I did the standard amazon app debloater followed by a manual remove of some of the other apps including the fire launcher.

This step was the key to get this working the way I needed it to.

Before that last step it would still launch the fire launcher even though the fire toolbox tried to map the home key to Nova. With the amazon launcher removed, the Nova Launcher worked perfectly as if it was a normal android tablet.

No lock screen, no pin, straight into a clean 2x2 Nova launcher. Perfect :)

I also de-registered the tablet and set a new/random advertising ID. I don't know if that resets ad activity after the conversion or not , but as there's no lock screen to display them we never see them.

Since the conversion, the tablet updated itself to v8.3.1.3 and it's still working exactly the same.

Happy days :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cmcchi:
For your reference

I had got both tablets from early Black Friday.

Fire HD 10 plus

OS 7.3.2.1

Fire HD 10

OS 7.3.2.4

I heard that the OS version of tablet was not the same for each purchaser, which is somehow random.

But even for OS 7.3.2.2+, it could be fine tuned with Fire Toolbox.

Just need more steps in setting up.

You may take reference to post from Blaacksheep of Disabling OTA update
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MisterKevster:
I'm about to buy one of these from my local John Lewis....

Is the relevant OS info displayed on box....or should it be??
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] callumw:
It might give a software version/generation, but not specifics
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jaydh1:
Thanks for this., it worked for me. Google play is asking to update the app version which I don't want to do but would Google Play force the update?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It shouldn't. Make sure you go into Google Play, tap your avatar in the upper-right, then tap "Settings" near the bottom. Tap "Network Preferences". Tap "Auto-update apps". Finally, tap "Don't auto-update apps". Google will still be an annoyance and constantly remind you to update but that should stop it from updating by itself. You don't want Google to update a modified app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lovingboth:
Enormous thanks for this - it makes using a Fire HD 10 bearable.

Two issues that I am wondering 'is it just me':

1. Amazon's ROM shopping app doesn't work - you're redirected to shopping on Amazon via a web browser.

2. Installed Swiftkey as my keyboard. It works, but I can't log in to get my cloud-saved predictions. I enter the details on the log in page, it opens a new tab to log in again.

Are either/both of these linked to having the AdGuard DNS?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lovingboth:
Oh, trying to get an Amazon shopping app, the Google Play version installs but won't run. I am not surprised at that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You need to uninstall that Google Play version of Shop Amazon and/or Amazon for Tablets. It won't work and will break the app. After uninstalling the Google version, click on the last link in my signature and grab the apk files of any Amazon apps you are using. I pulled the updates from another tablet I have with the newer firmware. Just install them over the pre-installed apps and that should fix the problem. PS - never install a Google version of an Amazon-supplied (native) app and don't let Google Auto-Update your Amazon apps. Do them manually, skipping any Amazon apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] smirnoff9969:
Hello,

my new HD10 just updates itself over night to 7.3.2.6

I did put google acc on it follow these steps

How to Install the Google Play Store on an Amazon Fire Tablet

You're not stuck with the Amazon App Store.

www.howtogeek.com

I did not instal DNS66

what problems can I run into?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

The main problem you will probably run into is further updates! We never know when an Amazon OTA Update will mess up something new in our tablets. They keep locking it down further and we have to struggle to find new ways to get around their "updates".

Better than using DNS66 to block updates, I've written a guide to installing RethinkDNS - a firewall for individual apps and DNS changer. It's simpler to install and set up than DNS66 plus it allows the "Always on VPN" setting to be used without blocking all traffic. (I still can't figure out why DNS66 fails with that setting turned on.) The guide is in the first link in my signature. It includes links to both apps that you'll need.:)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Fancykong:
Hello, I am using a Fire HD8 7th Gen (5.7.0.0). I am excited to use this program; however, every time I follow the directions and then plug my Fire tablet to the computer, the connection only lasts for a few seconds before it disconnects. I already have the drivers installed and have USB debugging checked on. Is there something that I can do to fix this? Video/Picture of error is included.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

There was just a report the other day about the same thing happening. I believe the cause was an "Android Emulator" running at the same time. It was never determined what the "Android Emulator" was, but I suspect that it was a Smart TV or Roku running on the same network. ADB won't be able to handle multiple devices simultaneously and will disconnect or refuse to connect if that condition exists. The easiest way to fix the problem is to unplug any/all Smart TV's and Roku's until you're done running Toolbox. Even Wifi can cause the problem so just unplug them temporarily until you get your tablet configured.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Fancykong:
No wonder! I do have both a Roku and a Roku TV on my connection. Thanks, I will try your solution out and update the forum whether it works or not.

EDIT: Sadly, this did not work. I tried disconnecting all other devices from my internet connection and even turning off the modem and using a separate internet source. The fire tablet still stays connected for only a few seconds at most. The video I posted above is still exactly how the process looks now.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MisterKevster:
Just went through the install on a new HD10.......Bingo!

However......the "x".....used to close open tabs isn't there

......so can't close a tab once opened!!

Any thoughts on what I may have done wrong please??

ALSO........must I now switch developer mode off.....????
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] smirnoff9969:
great but,

link takes me to page 532 and...there I can not find anything to run / install RethinkDNS...

any more help please?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I corrected the link. I'm not sure what happened, it used to work. Now it works again! :) Thanks for pointing this out to me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Siddle5:
I have a Fire HD8 7th Gen (5.7.0.0) and had a similar problem last night, but was able to get everything working. Specifically, the problem I had was that Windows automatically installed drivers for the Fire but refused to install the Google drivers, even when I tried it manually. In the past I have used ADB with this Fire, as well as, some older android phones, so I think that was part of the issue.

After downloading and extracting the Google drivers to my PC, and having FireToolbox running (but not happy 'cause drivers are missing) here's what I did:

1. With Kindle connected to PC and USB debugging enabled, go to admin account on PC and open Device Manager.

2. In the Device Manager, check to see if you have "Fire" under "Portable Devices" in addition to something else. For me, the something else is "Android Phone". (Maybe a Roku shows up the same way?)

3. Under "Portable Devices", I uninstalled the "Fire" (right-click, uninstall)

4. Then, still in the Device Manager, I went and modified the "Android Phone" basically following Method #2 https://xdaforums.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox-v30-0.3889604/post-82681973

For me, that was enough to get FireToolbox to work with my Fire, block the annoying ads, etc and install Nova. Windows has already done it's automatic thing and put "Fire" back under "Portable Devices" in the Device Manager with the default MTP drivers, but it hasn't stopped FireToolbox from working. I got the idea of deleting the non-ADB driver from reading https://developer.amazon.com/docs/fire-tablets/connecting-adb-to-device.html#troubleshooting I'm sure there are some much smarter people on this forum who can figure out what's going on, but hopefully this helps as a work-around.

Thank you Datastream33 for this awesome tool, I'll be buying you a coffee :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Fancykong:
Thank you SOO much! I had almost given up hope until I saw your answer. It worked perfectly!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I waited to reply on this in case someone (like you) had an answer that didn't need a bunch of checking this and that and guesswork. Thank you for posting this because a few people have had difficulty getting ADB to work correctly on their tablets. I think the reason I didn't think about this being a driver issue is that I disabled automatic driver updates on my Windows machine right after I installed it and I only update my video driver if I have reason to do so. All the other drivers can stay as they are. I hate it when other companies want to control what I do with my machine. :-b
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bundys:
Just curious, but have there been any updates to enable us to put a FamilyLink kid account onto the tablet? Nothing I've found works.

I bought 2 10" Fire tablets last Christmas for my kids, and now that google enforced account age verification, they had to get downgraded to kid accounts, which don't work on the Fire tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm not sure if this helps you or not, but @jose51197 posted a little ways back about installing his kids under a regular account and installing a modded YouTube Kids app in this post. Maybe you can do something with that. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bkrof102723:
Hey I am kind of good at codes and stuff but what it really is is that the app is kinda glitched and also it just reset back to the first time screen and before i went back on it it says that my device isn't detected and my device is a amazon fire hd 10 plus please fix it
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bkrof102723:
Can u make it so i can use my pc as an adb keyboard to control my tablet rather than spend like 20-60+ dolars
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wolv275:
Hello, i just got an hd10 w fw 7.3.2.1, as per the toolbox info. I cant go into system update to verify, it just blinks and does nothing.

I was able to disable ota and auto updates, but cannot download google services, It fails to download.

I tend to leave my fire tables as is with ota off and auto updates off and just install the google playstore. Is this a temporary download issue or is there a work around? My apologies if its been stated, I have not been able to find this info in the messages...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wolv275:
apparently it was temporary. It just installed google services.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wolv275:
interesting aside, not sure if its related. After installing google services and disabling ota and updates. My amazon shop app no longer works. says the device is not supported? anyone run into this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PrimalMan1103:
Recently got my hands on a computer that can run a Windows VM and ran Fire Toolbox no issue. Thanks everyone for the incredible work.

A few notes, though:

- Seems like customizing the Navbar before setting a custom launcher with the Automate method breaks the automate launcher method. Had to factory reset the tablet and run the Custom Launcher option first. On FireOS 7.3.2.3, Fire 7 (2019), for reference.

- The debloater works well but a suggestion I have is maybe having the debloater clear the data on apps before disabling (like how Universal Android Debloater does it). Noticed some apps had some data and cache left over after disabling and had to clear this out by hand.

Again thanks to the creator for such a great tool, really breathed new life into a tablet taking up space in a drawer. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pizzoe:
Downloaded, extracted, and installed the ADB drivers.

Unlocked developer options and toggled them on.

Installed fire toolbox v5.0 on my computer.

Plugged fire hd8 into my computer and ran toolbox...

"No device was found."

I've tried changing the "use usb to" to:

Transfer Files

Transfer Photos

Use Device as MIDI

and charge this device

Still says "No device was found." EVERY time. :(

WTF?!

HELP! please
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DragonFire1024:
The cables are very touchy on the fires. So if all else has failed always try another cable. Sometimes I might try two or three before I find one that works. Though these cables May charge your device that doesn't necessarily mean they will work properly when plugging them into to a PC. Especially since there are many different varieties of cables, some of which you wouldn't even want to pay a penny for then you have the high-end factory cables that come packed with the devices that you always want to save. Even if they stopped working for that specific device.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DJames1:
Same problem as I had on my Win 7 computer, before switching to Win 10.

Two possibilities:

1. This is not strictly the order in which Post 1 told you to do it. Post 1 said to select USB debugging mode, then plug your device into the computer, then install the ADB driver. This is counter-intuitive, so you did what I did initially: installed the ADB driver first, before plugging in the tablet. I have no idea if that made any difference or not, but on Win10 following the exact order written in Post #1, it worked.

2. On Win7 I got a failure to automatically install the required driver for the USB device when I first plugged the tablet in. The Fire device showed up in Device Manager, but with an error indication saying that the proper device-specific driver could not be found, and the Windows online driver search could not find it. This was after installing the downloaded ADB driver before plugging in. So if it wasn't the problem of order of installation (possibility #1), it may have been that Win 7 doesn't have the right driver available at all. However when I later removed everything I installed on Win7, turned off USB debugging, plugged the tablet in to the Win7 computer again, and selected USB mode File Transfer mode, everything went fine: the Fire tablet appeared as a device in Windows, I could access its file system remotely, and a proper driver showed up in Device Manager with no errors. Perhaps I should have done that first in Win7? But that wasn't the recommended order either.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] klausb65:
There are two types of cable, one is only to charge, another one is to charge/transfer. If possible, try to connect another device with this cable and if you don't have access it is the wrong cable.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jamaicamecrazy:
I have two 7th gen fire HD 10...one of them i had no problems at all. The 2nd one when I install Launcher Hijack and use nova launcher, everything appears to work but when i try to turn off the tablet I get a popup dialogue box asking if i want to power off. If I click OK nothing happens. I need to hold down the power button for 10 seconds to power off.

If i uninstall Launcher Hijack the button/dialogue box goes back to normal. Reinstall hijack and it stops working again.

I have seen a couple other posts about this issue, but didnt see any resolution.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
Check the settings of hijacker. There are some settings in there that can be changed. 1 May help
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jamaicamecrazy:
tried each one (one at a time), no luck

if i turn off " to detect home button press" then it starts working (but im back into fire launcher), reset it back to ON and it stops working again

edit: also tried a different launcher and had the same problem so it wasnt a NOVA launcher problem
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Shack70:
This worked great for me but now I have an issue. I want roo my 10" Kindle but I can't see what OS version I'm running. It says in updates that it's blocked by parental controls. How do I turn back on Ota to see what version or is there another way? Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] CheapFire:
Toolbox V5.0 works great! I was able to remove a ton of bloatware. However, when I remove Fire Launcher, the Fire starts up and shows Android starting... but never gets to the home screen. If I remove the Fire Launcher, which launch should I install to get a native Android start page? If that's possible... Thanks!