[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gdroid666:
Ok I tried to install and run the new FTB v32 but it still sucks for fire max 11 users on 8.3.1.5,

I think the tool needs a lot of work still to be useful for the max 11 and I do not have any faith in this thing at all for the max 11.

I get this message when I try to disable OTA updates, which I feel is erroneous but maybe I am wrong.

According to your post and other posts in this thread being above 7.3.2.2 on the fire max 11 is not the same as being above 7.3.2.2 on other model fire tablets in that we are still able to use PM disable to disable system packages/ processes because they are not protected

if we are on 8.3.1.5. on the max 11 but not on other models.

But it seems like the toolbox is not taking into account that my fire max 11 is on 8.3.1.5 and doesn't have protected packages and that it is able to use PM disable on the OTA update processes and that they are not protected processes on my tablet with my FW version because it is only giving me the option to use the fall back method and not the origianl PM disable method.

v32 seems like a totally useless update as far as the max 11 on 8.3.1.5 is concerned.

I thought the whole purpose of the v32 update was to add support for the max 11?

the toolbox should detect that it is a fire max 11 and either ask what the FW version is or detect the FW version ( I assume detecting the FW version is not possible so a prompt to enter the FW version would be fine)

I want to PM disable the OTA updates and not use the fall back method right?

but it seems like there is no way to do this with v32 which is the latest version of the toolbox.

FTB should see you using a fire maxx 11 and then hav an optin to say you are on 8.3.1.5 or below and then offer you the option for fire tablet without protected processes/packages and not just assume that because you are above 7.3.2.2 that the tablet has protected packages, processes.

So should I wait for datastream to update the toolbox again or could someone please tell me how to do it manually through ADB shell commands,( I did this before on my 2019 HD 10 and it worked grrat still no updates to this day, but I forget how to to do it and I assume the OTA update package names have surely changed by now) and tell me which packages need to be PM disabled in order to stop the updates?

I feel like this was a huge oversight in the v32 update (not taking into account that fire max on 8.3.1.5 does not have protected packages, FTB even pops up with a message at some point that says "you are on 8.3.1.5 so packages are protected" but accoriding to this thread this is not true for the max 11 if your on 8.3.1.5) .

I also had 2 previous versions of the toolbox installled and it said I should remove the previous versions, I used the wizard in FTB to try and uninstall the previous versions but it crashed FTB and I was geting all kinds of errors when it tried to uninstall the previous versions.

and the new v32 is having all kinds of problems now and throwing JIT runtime and net framework errors .

I am on Win 8.1 and I already had the Google drivers installed ans set up properly on the old versions of FTB but when it attempted to remove the old FTB versions I think it messed up the Google ADB driver install because it keeps throwing jit runtime and .net framework errors now and it still pops up with the message that I am on 8.1 and tries to run the installer for the Google ADB drivers even though I already had them installled correctly and they were working with the old versions of FTB, seems like the FTB is not actually checking to see if the drivers are installed first it just suggests for you to install them automatically without actually cheking anything is that right?

this whole thing is a mess and especially if you are using 8.1

I wish it would detect if the Google ADB drivers are already installed and not try and reinstall them and mess it up,

everything is so screwed up on this machine I think I am just going to have to find a win 10 machine now,

I mean I can close all the pop ups with the errors and chose run anyways and I will be taken to the FTB menu, but will the scripts even run right? will the FTB even tell me if it is not actually doing what it is supposed to be doing? does it actually have any ability to check anything?

it is really hard for me to have confidence in this tool when it doesn't seem to actually perform any checks on anything it is supposed to be doing but rather just follows a set script to pop up with pompts.

Should I just go to a win 10 machine and use an older veriso on FTB that will still have the option to block OTA updates via the old method and not the fall back method?

Also the welcome your wizard keeps freezing on me and won't go past the 3rd or 4th pop up.

This tool really needs more work for the max 11 because this is not clear or easy to understand what it actually trying to do or if it's actually going to block the updates the most efficent way ( Ie the old PM disable method) or not.

I stopped right there and did not perform the fall back method for OTA updates as I am not sure if that woudl be a good idea.

I also assume that any other part of the tool like debloating or disabling the fire launcher is also not going to give me the proper options for the max 11 on 8.3.1.5, and will just offer me the the inferiorr fall back methods like using launcher hijack .apk instead of PM disabling fire launcher because it is running under the assumption that packages are protected on my tablet whcih accoring to this thread they are not.

and I also assume it will not debloat either for the same reason.

I also do not understand the other part of the pop up message about making a backup. making a backup of whay exactly?

"it is highly recomended that you create a backup and factory reset the tablet before running this tool" what?

how are we supposed to " make a backup" without root access and being able to run titanium backup and how would we even restore it without root and TWRP none of this makes any sense.

TL;DR

FTB needs to be udpated to include an option for using the old PM diable method for OTA packages for fire max 11 users on 8.3.1.5 and not just the fall back method as packages are not protected on this tablet on this FW version.