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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MaxxCrook:
Thank you that did it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] alostengineer:
Hi, the Home Screen Replacement method Toolbox 26.1 and Fire 7.3.2.2 has stopped working long term, it seems the tablet resets it within 15 minutes the workaround being enabled. I've tried to write a script to do the commands it uses in ConnectBot with a local connection, but can't store it anywhere on the tablet where a shell can reach it. In effect, I cannot any longer reliably install a 3rd party launcher at all. It resets even without reboot. I've had to re-run the commands at least 6 times tonight and it keeps reverting. Even rebooted a few times, no change in behavior. Amazon sucks so bad.

Is there any way - risky or not - to downgrade to 7.3.2.1 or lower? If it bricks it I'll blame Amazon and send it back since technically it's a design flaw to not allow you to use your own apps. I have the update-kindle-Fire_HD_11-PS7319_user_1726_0020367982212.bin firmware file, not sure if that will help at all.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I know it's a long read, but I think what you're looking for is discussed in this thread. At least there's discussion of what is involved in flashing an earlier ROM using fastboot. I'm no expert, just a novice. I think the biggest problem is getting to bootloader mode to do the flash. You may need to remove the battery or short a TP to ground to get there. Put on a pot of coffee and put on a comfortable pair of slippers - you'll be reading for a while, but you may find your answer.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] seacamel:
That's exactly what I did when I first installed the tablet(Fire HD 10 plus) for my wife. She found the screen to "small" for watching, so I "inherited" the tablet.

Of course, her google account was already on there. I uninstalled the whole google play and re-installed it with the toolbox (oh yes, thanks for that!).

When seeing some people got issues with installing google play I didn't want to recommend this as solution. I guess I got lucky ;-)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mattzildjian:
I love this app but I really hoped by now we'd have at least one option for a custom rom. Is it not possible with this device?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lewmur:
In order to have custom roms, you have to be able to unlock the bootloader, and no one has yet to find a way to do that with the latest models.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
See post #8256. The link there is to a discussion thread about unlocking the bootloader on the HD 10 (2019). They've found a preliminary way on some tablets to flash a modded ROM, but the discussion kind of died. I hope the discussion picks back up again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] babadilla:
I think that is an issue for google play store device certification. You should be download netflix app from amazon app store (if you use it) without problem. AFAK you are not able ton download netflix app from play store unless your device shown as certified at settings-about.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] babadilla:
I have a fire hd 10 2019 which runs 7.3.2.2 First of all toolbox is a life saver specially for us who lives outside us (or other countries which amazon services not available) so thanks. I tried to change lock screen quick shortcuts and change the right one to camera however when I try it does not open the camera and still shows amazon offers (something like that). Did I do something wrong or it is because fire os version?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Because you have v7.3.2.2 firmware, Toolbox can't remove the lockscreen ads. That's just the firmware version. The only options for that are return/replace, or paying Amazon $15 (I think that's what they charge) to remove the ads.

I don't know about the camera. Can you access the camera from the the app menu or from a desktop shortcut? I'm just wondering if it's the quick shortcut or the app itself. If you can access the camera app from the menu, then I guess it's the quick shortcut.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
This happened about a week ago. We don't know the reason, but we can only assume real life got in the way and he doesn't have the time for the board currently.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] babadilla:
Actually toolbox removed ads from lockscreen, that's not the issue. I changed the right shortcut of lockscreen to camera app and despite the shortcut logo also changed to camera app, shortcut does not launch camera but shows "selected offers" as it is stands for "amazon offers".
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Ah. I see. (I'm on 7.3.1.2 so I don't even know about all the wonders of the later versions!) Since I'm unaware of the process for changing those shortcuts, can you choose any app? Do you have a 'custom' or 'other' option that will allow you to get a full list of available apps? I think you get where I'm going.

Edit: I don't even use the included camera app. I use Free Camera from the Playstore. It's a better camera app and no ads too.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] alostengineer:
Thanks for the link, I'll spend some work hours reading through it tomorrow.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] eragonhnn:
I wonder , how long will Amazon update Fire OS 8 ( Android 11 or 12 ) for Fire Tablet devices
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
From what I know, Amazon's tablets from 2018 and earlier are on FireOS 5 and the ones from 2019 and beyond are on FireOS 7. Even the newest 2021 tablets are on 7.3.2.2 at the latest. I don't know of any that are on FireOS 8. To answer your question, though, I believe Amazon promises to update for at least 4 years after the device is discontinued, but if you want to use Toolbox, you probably don't want updates anyway because of the problems they cause with Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jackinthebin:
Hi, thanks for this software. I succeded installing on my amazon fire hd 2021. It's version is currently 7.3.1.8. After using it for some time,I wanted to buy kindle books online, so i enabled back the 'Kindle Store' and 'Goodreads'. When i click goodreads, it goes on circles and glitches. And when i click on kindle store, it doesn't open anything. My Amazon Newsstand is enabled. My playstore update is disabled. I also already registered with amazon apps.

Now i found out how this guy resolved it, so i tried uninstalling 'amazon kindle' from play store. There was only an 'Enable' option, so i enabled it, but after that there is no uninstall option, unlike other apps i have from google play store. There is also no Kindle app listed when i manage Apps through google play store, only something called 'Amazon FreeTime' (not sure if it's relevant. Now 'Kindle Store' flickers and glitches harder when i tried opening it.

Can someone help so i can fix this and access kindle to buy books? Much thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'll try to help. First thing to do is uninstall any Playstore apps that duplcate the pre-installed apps on the Fire tablet. (Even if you have the pre-installed apps disabled.) If you can't find an unistall option, try long-pressing the app's icon, then tap on the circled I (or app Info). The resulting dialog box should contain an 'uninstall' option to remove the app. If it doesn't, then it's a system (pre-installed) app.

Now you need to re-enable Goodreads and Amazon Newsstand in Toolbox under Manage Amazon Apps > Manual tab > Simple (recommended).

The pre-installed apps can't be removed without root. They can only be disabled. They use some of the same libraries as the ones from the Playstore, but carry different signatures than the ones in the Playstore which cause conflicts and crashing in the apps. This means you can only use the Amazon versions of these apps or a 3rd party app - not Playstore versions.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jackinthebin:
Yeah, there's already none of the duplicated pre-installed apps. Only Kindle from playstore that can't be uninstalled. Bright side is there's 'Store' in Kindle (Google Playstore) and Newsstand that i can use. Will try to buy books from this later. I'm thinking this problem is caused by the kindle (Google Playstore) conflict with Kindle from amazon as you said also.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, you need both Amazon Newsstand and Goodreads enabled to use the Kindle store. Any Playstore apps that are Kindle related will likely cause problems. Get the basic functionality working first before you add anything from Playstore. Then if you add anything, check after each app you add that you haven't lost any functionality.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Sherip:
I got a Fire HD 10 about a month ago, and ran Toolbox (thanks!) to remove lockscreen ads and install the Google Play Store. I followed the instructions and prevented OS updates. Device is running 7.3.1.9. Its got two adult profiles and a problem. Installed an SD card and was hoping both profiles could use it and share files there. Its installed for Portable Storage not Tablet Storage. But only one profile can write to the card. If I unmount the card and physically eject it and reinsert it with the other profile active, then that profile can use the SD card (and other cannot). Is that how its supposed to work? Is it any different with a later OS? Its a pain to have to physically remove the case and mess with the card to make it usable.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] speedsri:
Hi, Thank you for an amazing tool. I have a FireHD10 11th gen with 7.3.2.2 OS. I have a 32GB SD card inserted.

Has anyone else experienced this issue. When ever I lock the screen and leave it for sometime. Then when I wake the device and unlock the screen. I get a pop up saying the SD card was removed. Then it shows me how I would like to use the SD card screen. Please see the attached pic.

Please let me know how to fix it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Sherip:
I have occasionally needed to reselect Portable Storage when wakening the tablet, but have never seen the message that the card was unexpectedly removed. Is your card tightly inserted and the drive cover latched?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Sherip:
Scratch that, just saw same thing as you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Unfortunately, I believe that's the default behavior of FireOS. @Sherip: As soon as I read that you had 2 adult profiles, I knew that there was trouble. FireOS seems to not like working well for people that want more than 1 profile on their device. I suppose it's due to the way that the profiles are created. From what I understand, the master profile is created as 'Parental Control' and the profiles you create are created under this. I don't really understand it, but it leads to problems when you don't follow along with what Amazon had in mind for their tablets. (It sure isn't running Toolbox and disabling their ads and revenue generating apps!)

As for the SD card removal notice, I had that problem on a tablet I was giving as a gift with a 256GB SD card installed. I didn't want to give the gift of trouble everyday, so I reformatted the card as Internal (adoptable or tablet) storage. This works out well when there is a case on the tablet. It always behaved as though the device had that space built in and never once did it complain about the card being removed. If either of you can use that strategy, it may be a simple solution.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chetqwerty:
I get almost the same thing happen to me every time the tablet screen goes dark, even for a few seconds. "Sandisk SD Card is missing". After I enter my pattern to unlock there is another larger message telling me the SD card needs to be reinserted which quickly disappears then all is back to normal. I had just always thought that I over aggressively disabled items in the Toolbox that maybe were sketchy to do so. If someone knows what controls the SD card to be ejected I would love to see if I disabled that process.

Same specs as you, FireHD10 11th Gen 7.3.2.2 32Gig card
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] monacoo:
I can not get rid of advertising lockscreen on HD8. I use it with fully kiosk browser, but whenever the screen is switched off, I get advertising lockscreen and request for password. Any hints how to solve?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] seacamel:
You can nicely ask Amazon to remove the advertising. It worked for other people and it worked for me.

Worst case scenario, they say "nope". But then again you can get lucky and it doesn't cost anything to ask ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] monacoo:
I do not have issues with the advertising. The problem is that I can not get rid of lockscreen anymore.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] monacoo:
Where and who exactly to ask?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] monacoo:
Not directly related, but maybe interesting for guys in the US (if this is spam, please delete)

"Amazon's Refurbished Fire Tablets Are as Little as $20 This Week - CNET" https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing...d-fire-tablets-for-as-little-as-20-this-week/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Sherip:
Ok. Thanks for the reply. Disappointing tho, since they do allow two adult profiles (and I used their process to create them). The problem with regular storage vs portable storage is, I was hoping to share some media between the profiles. BTW, I had to run the toolbox a 2nd time (with 2nd profile active) after initially setting up the tablet. I needed to sideload play store with updated versions from the first profile. But also needed to rerun the lock screen part; before I did that, the lock screen wallpaper for the 2nd profile was just a black screen as I recall. I did not reapply the part blocking OS updates. Although 2nd profile can try to update the OS, I already know it does not work. I know because I made an attempt, wondering if the sd card situation might be improved with the latest OS version. I even tried manually updating via PC 😵

You'd protected me from myself 🙂
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can completely disable the lockscreen. First set it to a PIN code that you won't forget. This might be important if you decide to restore it later. (Probably not needed, but better safe than sorry.) Then in Toolbox, go to 'Main Menu (page 1)' > 'Lockscreen Management' > 'Disable Lockscreen', and click 'Run'. Here you'll need to make sure your tablet is awake and lit up. It takes a few seconds. You may also need to interact with the tablet to select 'None'.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You definitely don't want updates, even to improve SD card handling. Count yourself lucky it didn't update to 7.3.2.2. Then you'd be wondering why your launcher can't be changed and you can't remove the lockscreen ads permanently.

You might be able to share media between the 2 profiles in adopted storage by creating a new directory in the root tree and storing them there. I'm not sure how multiple profiles are handled by Android. If it creates a completely seperate directory structure for each profile, then it won't work. You could use cloud storage for the shared media though. Anyway, if adopted storage won't work for you, don't use it. It was only a suggestion.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] monacoo:
Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mayog:
Hello,

I got a "new" HD10 from warehouse deals, and i followed the instrusction with no setup of wifi.

I disabled all recommendet amazon apps and enabled prime video what i want to use.

But i get "no Account Error" how can i add my amazon account?

I have no Google Services.

@Datastream33

When installing Disney+ first and then Netflix the processbar is set to Disney not Netflix
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Okay, since you're going to use Prime Video, there's no need to use the hybrid Netflix and Disney+ apps. You can use the ones from the Amazon Appstore. (They're free and kept somewhat up to date.)

Use Toolbox Main Menu (page 1) > Manage Amazon Apps > Manual tab > Simple (recommended). Enable the following apps:

Amazon Appstore

Amazon Prime Video

Shop Amazon

Use Shop Amazon to sign in. Use Amazon Appstore to download and install Netfix and Disney+. (Make sure to uninstall the hybrid apps first.) If you want the Google Playstore and Google services, you can install them with Toolbox on Main Menu (page 1) > Google Services (Manage).

Edit: If you're happy with the hybrid apps and want to keep them, ignore the part about using Amazon Appstore to install Netflix and Disney. The hybrid apps are there so you don't need to sign in to Amazon, but you'll have to sign in to Amazon to use Prime Video.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mayog:
Ok, great so i only need Appstore and Shop when using PrimeVideo.

I have to keep Appstore and Shop installed or only first time use for account enabling?

To activate Nova launcher after coldboot i have to type the adb line autotyped in Toolbox?

Is it possible to do this via Wifi ADB from my phone?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You only need Amazon Appstore if you want apps from them - no need to keep, unless maybe for updating.

I would leave Shop Amazon installed just for account management purposes, but then I've not needed to log back in so it's up to you.

Nova Launcher doesn't start by itself? Are you on FireOS v7.3.2.2? If so, you'll need to talk to someone who has that version installed. I only know about it through others that have the misfortune of the newest firmware installed.

I think you need a physical ADB connection to enable ADB over WiFi. The setting doesn't survive a reboot, so it's not practical to do that. I think it's possible to run ADB in Termux on the tablet itself, though. I'd need to investigate.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Naulels:
Can I update my tablet to later fire os before use this tool
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can, but it would make the use of the Toolbox ineffective. The new update prevents Toolbox from being able to disable lockscreen ads, replace the launcher permanently, and prevents OTA update from being blocked. I would NOT update, but rather disable OTA updates immediately. (You don't want 7.3.2.2. Anything earlier is good.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] seacamel:
Just go to Amazon "Customer support" all the way down to "Need more help?"(under Browse Help Tips) then "contact us" and use the "chat" function.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I assume you're on 7.3.2.2 or Toolbox would have removed your ads. If you don't have any luck getting them to remove the ads for free, they will do it for a $15 USD fee. You can ask them or go to this page on their site, click on "Fire Tablet(s)", click on the name of your tablet (in blue), then on "Remove Offers" in the details tab.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] CommieColin:
Asking Amazon to remove the ads for free 100% works. I told them I was worried my cat would accidentally buy things by tapping on the screen with his paw and they told me they understood and immediately removed the lockscreen ads.

It's also tied to the tablet's SN, so it's permanently disabled and sticks through updates, factory resets, etc. Took me five minutes, would definitely recommend - especially if you're a Prime member.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] digixmax:
FWIW on the HD10 7th-gen 2017 searching the Amazon store does not yield the Netflix nor Disney+ app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I thought they were there. Huh. Well I guess that's why Datastream33 included the hybrid apps. I'm glad you mentioned it before I recommended getting them through the store again.(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mimzilla99:
How do you turn off OTA in the toolbox? or can you? and if not is there any way to disable system updates? im getting a fire 10HD tomorrow and i plan on not connecting it to wifi until i can turn updates off... I just havent found anywhere that says how to do it. TIA
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mimzilla99:
also if you factory reset the fire will the os drop to an earlier version, or will the most recent os version still be on it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Unfortunately, a factory reset will not downgrade the tablet, it will remain on the same version it was on before the reset.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
If your tablet arrives with firmware under 7.3.2.2 then you should be able to disable OTAs. All you got to do is enable USB Debugging, run the toolbox, make any changes you want (install Google Services, custom launcher, etc.) and the Toolbox will prompt you to disable OTAs. Or you can execute the Modify System Settings tool (on page 2), and in the General category flip the switch next to OTA Updates and Automatic Updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] locolyric:
am i able to use fire toolbox if i update to 7.3.2.2?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Don't update to 7.3.2.2. Once that update has occurred, you won't be able to replace the (ad-filled) launcher permanently. You won't be able to disable the lockscreen ads. You won't be able to disable automatic and OTA updates. The rest of Toolbox will work, but once updated, you'll have a less than optimum experience with your tablet and you won't be able to keep them from updating it further to disable more of your modifications.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rocjoh:
It's off-topic but I heard that a recent update (not sure the exact version no.) brought os built-in "split-window" function to Fire HD10 2019 and HD8 2020 (just like HD10 2021), and I am fighting against temptation of updating with hoping that Lord Datastream33 would find the way to disable forced OTA and launcher limitation with latest os ver 😉

Thank you for the great tool and your great support!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] XRaiderV18:
it did indeed bring split window functionality, I've been using it nightly in bed. when I'm that close to the screen in bed...having it in this mode makes for a far more comfortable reading experience.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Q_Gabe:
Hey everyone! Just wanna share something that might be useful for fellow musicians wanting to run this (godsend) toolkit.

I have the fire 10 HD from 2021, and I was never able to run all the tools in this toolkit because of the emulation error. I could get rid of ads, but stuff like the de-boat or installing a custom launcher simply didn't work. I finally discovered what it was because of someone on reddit. I use Native Instrument's plugins. Their Daemon interferes with the toolkit, it would seem. I just had to shut down that task and suddenly everything works!

Also, my tablet forced the dreaded update to 7.3.2.2 overnight (even though I had disabled OTA updates). It was forcing me to register my account, but I was able to work around this by trying to run the first time set up program with the ADB commands. What it did was let me back into the tablet with limited functionality instead, but I was still able to forget my Wi-Fi and thus was able to bypass the registration anyway. Great success!

Thankfully I am still able to bypass ads, and supposedly I'm still able to disable OTA updates if I don't reboot the tablet. I haven't tested that because I don't want to risk it. So yeah, not all is lost even if you got the 7.3.2.2 update. I don't know if it's because I had already run the toolkit before it updated, or if it just works until you reboot it.

But anyway, I hope this info is helpful to someone.