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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jwchilds:
Most Excellent. I saw no .jar or .bin files, but was able to clear data and cache for updates in system apps. ty
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] brandypuff:
i noticed that the toolbox does not disable the Kindle App even though i disabled the Kindle store. Not a big deal but i don't use it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] brandypuff:
i finally got an agent who offered to remove the ads as a one time courtesy without me even asking if they would do it for free. Now the annoying ads are finally gone. i can live with the amazon launcher if i have to but those ads were too much.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] hafren:
Continued problems in 1st installing Toolbox 25.2 on new HD10 (os 7.3.1.9) Like prior post I'm getting Net framework error (win 7x64) - I've repaired & reinstalled .Net 4.8 but error repeats. If I continue it appears I can use Toolbox but get errors installing Google services causing app crash faulting on CLR20r3 see post #7402.

Now on reboot the HD10 is stuck on Fire starting. Would really appreciate some help recovering from this.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MECH_TECH:
It seems like it's been asked a few times, but i haven't seen an answer for the question. Is it safe on the Fire HD 10 (2021) to update to 7.3.2.1??? It's very clearly stated many times here that 7.3.2.2 is bad and the ToolBox even has a pop up that stated that.

Also if I manually do install 7.3.2.1 that I downloaded will it "Reset" the tablet? Like loose all that is installed on it now?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's safe to install 7.3.2.1, though I don't think you'll get any benefits from the "upgrade". Updating does NOT wipe your data or installed programs. Though it will require you to run toolbox again because it will re-enable things that you have probably turned off.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MECH_TECH:
Okay thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Hackermanomega:
While i dont think you can roll back the update you can use glasswire or a similar app to block OTA updates which stops amazon from turning back on apps ..easy to do..there are to android components that show up in glasswire with OTA in the name..just cut them off from the net..problem solved..i turned off some other amazon stuff just to be sure..just thought id throw that out there
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] xflier:
Finally :) I am using the stock launcher too. just installed play store only from the toolbox. Nothing else.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] GeorgeJung:
Very interesting. Do you have some names? I see DeviceSoftwareOTA and Forced OTA...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] M1sch13F:
Really hoping toolbox 2.3 comes out soon. My son is going crazy with the 10 plus and I cannot hide stuff like I can on nova launcher.

For those with fire sticks, still debloatable! Look up techdr UK manager tools. Smart tv launcher ftw
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Hackermanomega:
Thats the 2 ..but i blocked things amazon turn back on when they do what they do.. just in case.. I've never had to do this before so im trial and error it..you can always undo it if it breaks something..aka unblock it..but its working for me..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok, so I was also able to create an Automate flow that changes the lockscreen's wallpaper. Unfortunately, I do not have a device with special offers enabled so I cannot test if it is effective. Is someone with a Fire HD 8 (2018), and Fire HD 7th Gen with Special Offers willing to test the flow on their tablet and see if it does work? If you are interested please PM me and I will send you the link to the Automate flow. Thanks! :D

EDIT: I subscribed my tablet to Special Offers and tested it. What I was found was... it does indeed work for 2018 tablets! However, the Amazon Lockscreen Wallpaper Changer flow MUST be running alongside the Amazon Fire Lockscreen Ads Remover flow to work properly. Now, this isn't too big of an issue and I will release more information as the method develops further. PS: I'm still looking for testers!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] yuera:
Hnn, I accidentally removed the fire launcher and now I can't boot, tried to "restore everything amazon" but doesn't seems to work. The screen doesn't go past the "fire"... :V

Edit: entered recovery to hard reset everything, guess it's an android tablet after all :P
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
I have not been able to get root shell to work with 7(2017). Not sure if I tested with latest version. And I have not tried it on HD8(2018).

It launches but just sits there. No prompt. Normal shell worked.

Google assistant crashes on 7(2017)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pmckay:
When I installed the newest toolbox, I see that several .apk's were not installed because they were already installed from earlier applications of the toolbox.

Is there a way to 'upgrade'?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] c6z06vette:
I can report back and say that this command line mod work perfect. Just to let people know I ran the 2 lines on page 4 of this link.

I'm on a Fire HD10 version 5.6.1.0
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pthieu:
Need some help with Parental Control message

Had the Fire HD 8 (2017) for a while and was recommended this toolbox by a friend. I manually installed google services half a year ago when I got the tablet so I didn't need to toolbox to do it, but I did these steps:

Install Nova Launcher and GBoard

Remove everything Amazon

Remove Everything Amazon

Parental Controls Hide

When I rebooted, my home button is not working and keeps popping up this message: "The requested action is not permitted. Check Parental Controls settings and retry"

Looked around this thread, went to Settings > Accessibility > ParentalControlHide and turned it ON, now the dialog pops up and closes really quickly, but my home button still doesn't work.

If I go into the apps list (square button), and close all my apps, I can't press back or get back to the launcher at all, anything I do will quickly show the dialog and close it. I have to restart the tablet to get back to the launcher.

I tried to use "Restore Everything Amazon" but it doesn't seem to want to restore the launcher, even after a reboot.

Edit: maybe home button is working but not expected. I can press the square button, then the circle button and it seems to go to the wallpaper and not back to the launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
Install the hijack4 apk and set it to your nova launcher. Enable it's accessability too. Then run the remove amazon again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pthieu:
I didn't want it to come to this but this works. Thanks.

I still see the dialog pop up and close right away. It's kind of annoying but at least it's not blocking functionality.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
ya in the 2018 devices neither are needed (parental controls hack or hijack). Unfortunately something with the 2017 devices that are just a little bit more strict on security.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Different base version of Android (5.1 vs 7.1) and ability to enable/disable various 'system' components.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SoftwareSucks:
REM Datastream 2018, All rights reserved.
REM Amazon Fire Toolbox V4.0
REM Please do NOT alter or distrubute this program without authorization.

What is the reasoning behind forbidding users from modifying a .bat file? I believe this restrictive wording is against the DIY spirit of the xda community.

Please consider using a more permissive license in the future.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] GuyInDogSuit:
Probably because using a modified version of this can have disastrous consequences? I dunno, but there's no rule against having closed-source software on here.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TheSpaceMoose:
When I press the power button on my Fire (HD10 2017), I get the pop-up dialog "Power Off, Do you want to shut down your Fire?". When I press OK, nothing happens. Anyone else having this issue?

I used the Reboot command from within Link2SD to reboot the device. Same thing is happening. Any ideas what might be causing this or how to fix it?

The most recent changes I made to my Fire were using the FireToolbox v4.0, hence my posting in this forum.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Because the Toolbox is written in Batch, it is very easy to manipulate and alter. The Toolbox has thousands and thousands lines of code... and with malicious intent someone could alter the code into doing malicious things with ease. It's actually crazy what a batch file can do to the Windows system... especially without admin rights. The first few lines inside the Toolbox are to make sure people don't modify the Toolbox without permission and add malicious lines of code and then distribute it (I'm not saying everyone who will alter it has these intentions, this just applies to a select few). In addition, if you want to modify the code I'm not stopping you, I didn't add this because I do not want you to modify it, it's because I respect your security. Please, if you want to modify it go ahead. But, please don't distribute your modified version unless you are given permission. That's all I ask. Thank you! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
Try the reboot command in the toolbox. See if it fixes after you get a successful reboot.

I'm not sure what in the toolbox could cause this issue because I still have the reboot menu. Which gives options. Not a confirmation
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
If you need to you can force power off. Try holding down the power button for about 10 seconds or so. The tablet should then force a power off. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TheSpaceMoose:
This solution works. And like I said in the original post, I can reboot using the Reboot option from within Link2SD.

I also tried rebooting or shutting off using the Toolbox while connected with USB, but that doesn't work either. Bizarre.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SoftwareSucks:
A bad actor would simply ignore your wishes, you're only restricting honest users.

Perhaps you should change the language or pick a proper license, because right now It clearly says not to alter or distribute.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
LOL, Did you really just login to another account to post this? :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tonydib:
Same model Fire here and I don't get that result, it works as expected. I was on 5.6.4.0 before applying Toolbox 4.0.

I ran the following items from Toolbox 4.0:

Remove Lockscreen Ads

Install Google Services

Block OTA Updates

Sideloaded Nova Launcher & Gboard

Remove Everything Amazon

Parental Control Hide

Launcher Hijacker (to fix issue with Home and Tasks buttons)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Hackermanomega:
Yeah i blocked alot lol..my tablet not yours amazon..lol
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Hackermanomega:
Sorry if i goofed up this post..im new
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] vadiro:
Hi guys, I have an issue side loading Mario Kart Tour on a Fire 10 HD 9th gen.

Could you help me, please with a suggestion?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] hafren:
OK made a Win 10 VM and was able to re-enable the fire launcher. Still get the .Net error but ignored and seemed to work ok. However if I try to install a custom launcher (Microsoft) it reports installed, disables fire launcher and I'm back with the fire is starting screen. I do have wi-fi turned off so could that be stopping the Microsoft launcher starting?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jinx100:
Your Win 10 VM needs to download the Microsoft Launcher. There is a Nova Launcher .apk included with the Toolbox, find it and side load it to your tablet so you have some fall back launcher. You can always change it later.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] GeorgeJung:
Thanks @Hackermanomega. I guess everyone's use case is a bit different but together hopefully we can identify the implications of each service so we know what we may want to leave, as opposed to blocking everything :)

It looks like glasswire needs to be purchased to block traffic. I found that Netguard seems to do the same. In settings - advanced options - enable manage system apps to get the entire list.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pwkpete:
Is there a way to not have the Fire Toolbox drop shortcuts on the desktop when it is started? I didn't see anything in the settings
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes. Right-click on the Fire Toolbox icon and select "Open file location". Double-click the "bin" folder. Double-click the "Settings" folder. Now double-click the "Settings.txt" file. On line 8 is "TBShortcutMade=0". Change the 0 to a 1 and save the file. You're done.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pwkpete:
Thx, didn't consider it being in a config and not settings screen. Excellent!

For those that got auto updated and are looking for black hd 8's, I just got one off ebay unopened. Asked the seller(s) how long they had their stock and a couple stated around 1 month. Given that, I figured it was safe and indeed that was the case.

For added protection I was looking at a no root firewall, "No Root Firewall" app came up and looks like it could work, what is the app that would initiate the update process that I would want to block? Has anyone used this particular app and have any opinions on it? (I have a couple devices and don't want to take any further risks with updates)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Just disabling OTA updates and Automatic updates in Toolbox works fine on F/W versions prior to 7.3.2.2. On the previous page, someone mentioned using "Glasswire" to block OTA updates on the new F/W version, but I have no experience with that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pwkpete:
Yeah, just me being paranoid now thinking Amazon would find a way to mess with that setting.

My other devices didn't update, just one that after doing a factory restore - we forgot to disable that and got bitten...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I've had my HD 10 (2019) since last Christmas and it's still on 7.3.1.2 just using the Toolkit.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Personally, I'm not so sure the newest black ones come with 7.3.2.2 pre-installed. I believe that they are updating themselves to the new firmware as soon as they have WiFi. Especially if the user forgot to uncheck the box to have it associated with their Amazon account. (It will know their WiFi passwords then and auto-update without them knowing, shortly after power on.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pwkpete:
Yeah, there are ways to prevent it from auto updating at start. Definitely do not go on WiFi before fixing the settings (it will allow you to skip if you wait) - and definitely don't have Amazon remember your WiFi information <yeesh>. Or pull your router from the internet when you turn the device on, until you can get the settings tweaked.

I didn't take a chance at buying one from Amazon in case they were updated.

All of my other devices have not updated but my paranoia drives me to think of what could happen, which is why I'm considering looking into some sort of firewall...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wnardone:
I was just able to get back to this and that did the trick. Actually running 25.2 now and all is OK.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Heavysoul:
Hi all,

I'm about to set up 2 x Fire HD 10 Kids, any tips on what to do or not do?

Obviously I want to get them running as fast as possible but don't want to stifle any of the specific kids stuff that comes on them.

Thanks in advance
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cml.snc:
Hello..

Is anyone using this table as a second monitor from pc or laptop..??

thanks...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Tech0308:
Try spacedesk, it works pretty well😁
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drotahorror:
I cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong here. I've tried executing this command within ADB Shell and also in the CMD prompt.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It seems to me like you are going about this the hard way. Why not use the toolbox to disable it? Page 2 of the menu, 'Modify System Settings' > 'System UI' tab. Second from the bottom is the "Device Dashboard Icon" switch. Flip it!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drotahorror:
That messes the spacing up. The back button is too close to the edge now. That's why I want to use the command.

Everyone else seems to have no issues using the code/command, so I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, I've noticed that different tablets react to commas and semicolons differently.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drotahorror:
I'm getting an error every time I execute it. Am I putting the command in the wrong spot? I've linked a picture in a previous post that I quoted in this post.

Thanks all.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
In your picture, you used semicolons around 'home'. In Falcon's first suggestion, he had commas. Commas seem to be more compatible in my experience.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drotahorror:
Thank you that worked!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] WTFrench:
Hi folks, new here. Thanks for having me. I tried a number of searches but was unable to find out why I cannot toggle off the OTA updates. Upon starting up today I have a bunch of the bloat back again. I have tried the toggle function a bunch of times, any suggestions? It sure takes the wind out of the 'complete bloatware removal' function. Must I be content with partial bloatware? Thanks, Sincerely WTF
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
This is a NEW problem. Amazon just released an OTA update about a month ago that the Toolbox is unable to circumvent. (At least for the time being.) Unfortunately, until/unless a solution is found, right now you can only circumvent these things with other methods like a third party navbar and disabling the lockscreen completely. Sorry. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] myechophone:
Hi all, I recieved the Fire 10Hd as a gift... I have never owned any tablets, so kinda excited.

I have successfully stopped my tablet from auto updates (so far). Diabled a few apps, setup google play etc.

But on a side note,

- what can I do to ensure my tablet does not automatically update to latest build?

- what are some benefits/ disadvantages of registering the KindleFire?

- anything I need to be careful if I register?

- Do I need to register to read my kindle/ audible purchased books and content?

- What advantages do other launchers have over the factory default kindle launcher?

Thanks in advance
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ap1618:
Hi, I just stumbled on this toolbox... I had installed Google play services manually and stuff, so i have playstore etc.

Ihad already registered the device PLUS OS version is already 7.3.2.2... so what exactly will i not be able to do with the toolbox?

Do I have a way to downgrade?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Registering the tablet isn't a problem. The fact that you have 7.3.2.2 installed means you can't change the default Amazon launcher with all it's ads and annoyances, and you won't be able to disable the lockscreen ads. You also won't be able to disable future OTA updates so every time they come up with a new annoyance to inflict upon you, you'll get it. And there's no way to downgrade - you're stuck with it unless it's new and you can return/exchange it for another color or whatever reason you can come up with.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Yesmulator:
I ran into the issue myself where I had to use single quotes for it to work '. Try this if the previous suggestions hasn't worked yet.

settings put secure sysui_nav_bar 'space,back;home;recent,space'
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Yesmulator:
So far, no way found to downgrade. I have the same version 7.3.2.2 and the only thing I can't do is the default launcher change so far. It's a bit annoying but oh well... it's good enough for me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] myechophone:
Thank you for the detailed response.

So if I understand it correctly, to use any of Amazons apps, I will need to register the kindle?

So, my kindle books are under one account but prime shopping and video is under another Amazon account.. how will this work? Or Kindle registration is independent of each app login?

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I usually tell people to enable Shop Amazon and to sign in to register their device. Then Prime Video and Amazon shopping will work. I don't know if the Kindle app allows you to sign in with another account - probably not. You might have to create another account on the tablet with the other username just to use Kindle.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] WTFrench:
That is an unfortunate development in this sense, but it has been enjoyable playing with the fire. Now that I'm registered I can check back in as someone may yet come up with a solution. Thank you for the quick response blaacksheep. Happy holidays folks! WTFrench
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
There are many with the new F/W and the developer has updated to the new version himself just to learn how to deal with it. Check back frequently. There's sure to be an update soon with some workarounds.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ap1618:
Damn ... So what was the way to disable OTA updates before?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It was a subtool in Toolbox that allowed you to Modify System Settings. You just switched off OTA updates and Automatic updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ap1618:
Wouldn't turning off automatic updates in the developer options achieve the same thing?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The Toolbox disabled the pre-installed Amazon app that downloaded (and probably installed without user authorization) OTA updates. The switch in Developer Options turns off the automatic application of Automaic Updates when you reboot the device. There is a difference between OTA updates and Automatic Updates. Because I haven't tried it (and won't), I can't answer your question with any certainty. But I suspect that it won't stop OTA firmware updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] myechophone:
I see. Thank you.

Does anyone else have suggestions on how to handle multiple accounts?

I would like to use one account (that also has my Audible library/ Kindle books) while shopping and video is with another account.

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sbphoto42:
The only issue I run into is when I reboot. It shows an SDcard alert. Sandisk SD card missing. I just ignore it and move on.

The way I got around the amazon setup was after picking the language. I did a force reboot and it now gave me the option to skip setup. I ran Fire Toolbox before the setup, connecting to WIFI, and it works great. The reason for doing this was to stop the auto-update from happening. This tablet is better for video playback than my new Samsung tab A7 10in.

I bought the 2021 fire tablet10.1 with 4GB ram and 64GB storage version for less than 100.00.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sbphoto42:
Thanks, but the wife can't wait longer than a sec. She had me factory reset it and send it back, lol. But since then I bought two more for my kids and unlocked them. She was kind of upset.. lmao.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] eragonhnn:
I have a question . Should I upgrade to version 7.3.2.2? ... My current version on FireHD10 (2019) is 7.3.1.9, I see a lot of negative feedback on recent updates. I am a full user of Google services and have absolutely no need for Amazon services.