yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
Apologies, I didn't there was a new port. I'll download it and give it ago later.

Indeed it is. I rarely use adb commands these days and invariably have to google to remind myself of the correct syntax - guess i found the wrong web page! Oddly, it worked the way I did it, even if it threw the error - weird. But what the heck!

I did look at the advanced page on the toolbox but didn't see the app listed. As you say, it's an unsorted (and long) list so I probably missed it. At that stage, I didn' t know the package name (btw does the list show package name OR 'friendly' name?) and was relying on spotting a similarity rather than exact match.

I don't know how that app snuck through, I certainly haven't always had it. Sneaky old Amazon eh?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
The new linux toolbox installed fine no probs over the previous version.

I haven't checked all functionality (as my tablet has already been 'tricked') but I ran a standard debloat again and got a few packages error. Example as follows....

shington Post (com.washingtonpost.rainbow)
↳Result: [FAILURE] -
Exception occurred while executing:
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Unknown package: com.washingtonpost.rainbow
at com.android.server.pm.PackageManagerService.setEnabledSetting(PackageManagerService.java:21082)
at com.android.server.pm.PackageManagerService.setApplicationEnabledSetting(PackageManagerService.java:21025)
at com.android.server.pm.PackageManagerShellCommand.runSetEnabledSetting(PackageManagerShellCommand.java:1617)
at com.android.server.pm.PackageManagerShellCommand.onCommand(PackageManagerShellCommand.java:208)
at android.os.ShellCommand.exec(ShellCommand.java:103)
at com.android.server.pm.PackageManagerService.onShellCommand(PackageManagerService.java:21671)
at android.os.Binder.shellCommand(Binder.java:634)
at android.os.Binder.onTransact(Binder.java:532)
at android.content.pm.IPackageManager$Stub.onTransact(IPackageManager.java:2796)
at com.android.server.pm.PackageManagerService.onTransact(PackageManagerService.java:3975)
at android.os.Binder.execTransact(Binder.java:731)

Other packages that errored similarly were....

com.amazon.photos.importer

com.amazon.iris

com.amazon.kindle.personal_video

org.mopria.printplugin

com.amazon.csapp

com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe

Interestingly, the package I had problems with earlier (com.amazon.imdb.tv.mobile.app) was a SUCCESS.

I'll carry on playing with the TB and report back if I find any other little glitches. It's a darned useful tool(s) and many many congrats on putting it together so successfully. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI

FireOS 8.3.2.0 now available for download from Amazon Customer Support:

www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G2JXLC4L34GX73TE

For Gen 12 and Gen 13 Fire tablets
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm glad your experience with the Linux port was positive. :) Datastream has gotten Toolbox to operate quite similarly in both Windows and Linux, so I think he was mostly working on the installer and the changes in Toolbox itself are listed in the release notes.

Freevee seems to almost be a spin-off from IMDB. I'd expect them to become separate apps within a few releases.

Your list of apps that error out when disabled looks about right. Toolbox attempts to disable everything, even the apps that Amazon has "protected" or even removed in later versions of FireOS. Getting the real names of apps can be somewhat of a chore. Often their 'friendly' names are completely unrelated. Then there's the Amazon apps with code names that have nothing to do with their real function. Trying to search for them by name on Google can be daunting, just trying to find out what they do and if they're safe to disable. The best tool I've found that is very helpful in disabling apps by either friendly or real name on any Android device (but is Windows only) is ADB App Control by Cyber.Cat. He has his own thread so I won't elaborate here.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] harryfine:
I don't check often, happened to check today and see 4.0 for Linux Wow, fantastic. Installed perfectly using the README.TXT file as a guide. It did not install OVER the 3.0 version, it installed alongside it, which was fine. I deleted all remnants of the 3.0 version after the install. Even has the nice icon on the desktop. It ran fine, I haven't connected to my Fire HD 8 2022 tablet yet, but will report back when I do.

[EDIT - removed question about change log]
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
Thanks for the reminder! I didn't think to look and like to keep my laptop lean and mean.... ish.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
8.3.2.0 is also available for the HD 8+ (10th Gen). What is the benefit of upgrading, and are there any detriments? Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Advisory posting for information and reference purposes only.

f/w 7.3.2.7 is the only Amazon-aproved listing available for manual download for 10th Gen Fire tablets.

If all the FTB mods are working for you on your device, no imperative need to upgrade f/w ... FOMO is a curse.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome (again?) to XDA!

Excellent that you had no difficulties installing v4.0. :) The new version is essentially the same as the Windows version, so if you're familiar with that then you should have no problems. All the latest changes are listed in the changelog. Enjoy. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Goldentongue111:
I just bought a fire tablet 10 2023 13 generation. I turned on debug mode and tried to use the windows version of the tool but when I connect I get a message that this device is not supported by the toolbox. I think it was something about Goliath. Do you know if this is something that will be possible on the newest generation?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
If you are experiencing 3rd party app instability/crashes on FireOS 8.3.1.x then upgrading to 8.3.2.x will generally resolve the issue. However, you will loose some FTB functionality, including ability to uninstall selected Amazon apps and seamlessly use a 3rd party launcher. The choice is yours...stability vs flexibility. Always a compromise on contemporary Fire devices.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
FWIW - recently began experiencing numerous 3rd party app crashes on a Max 11 running FireOS 8.3.2.0. Turns out a silent update to Google Play Services to 23.42.12 was the culprit (grrr!). Manually updating to 23.43.13 resolved the problem. Clearing GPS and app caches/data brought no joy. Also had to uninstall old GPS build before new one would go in. Not unusual, but not for the faint of heart either.

@Datastream33 - FYI
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

New amazon tablets need to have their codenames added to the database of Toolbox in order to support them. "Goliath" you say? Okay, I'm sure @Datastream33 will contact you in the near future to add support or ask you further questions about your tablet. Hopefully we'll have a micropatch to solve your issue soon. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Goldentongue111:
N

No problem. I was on travel for work. I'll take a look now I'm back and see what the code name it said was for sure.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] shaxs:
I used the most recent version of the toolbox for my Fire Max 11. I uninstalled and reinstalled the play services. I executed the no app updates and the battery optimization. I get constant popups saying Youtube Tv and Gboard wont run without google play services which are missing. They are installed and the play store and youtuvbe work. But Youtube tv does not work and these errors keep popping up. Anyway to to get ride of those? Should I factory reset the tablet and try again?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] coolloser:
The toolbox showed me that "tungsten" wasn't supported when I plugged in the 13th gen Fire 10. Google told me that Tungsten was the Kindle Scribe which is confusing. New version of the tool works fine though!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Hey @Datastream33

Could you check the device identification coding in FTB v32.3 ? ; not picking up new Fire HD 10 2023 , 13th Gen code name : Tungsten

May be related to edit/typo in v32.3 release notes : read as tunsten
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Gboard and YoutubeTV (among other Google-branded apps ) have had known app incompatible/unstable issues since early versions of f/w 8.3.1.x .

Battery Optimization option tweaks in FTB v32.3 may no have been enough to totally resolve all the issues with all the apps. YMMV . Some users have have experienced better app stability on f/w 8.3.2.0 update, though.

YouTubeTV can be assessed from the mobile web app, with any browser, as an alternative:

YouTube TV - Watch & DVR Live Sports, Shows & News

Stream live TV from ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, ESPN & popular cable networks in English and Spanish. Record without DVR storage space limits. Try it free. Cancel anytime.

tv.youtube.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI

Fire OS 8.3.2.1 available for download from Amazon Customer Support:

www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G2JXLC4L34GX73TE

for Fire Max 11 Gen 13, 2023 tablets.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bendog2784:
I used this app to turn off OTA updates and remove all of the Amazon bloat. Turned on my tablet this morning and was notified that I was upgraded, and all the Amazon crap is back.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
That's because the app can not effectively disable OTA updates without root access. Any temporary measures are not durable and can easily revert w/o notice (as you discovered). I really wish this tool did not attempt to peddle OTA blocking on unrooted devices.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bendog2784:
Good to know! So I guess I need root then?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Yes, if you want to reliably block OTA updates (among other capabilities). Once rooted you only need to rename DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk. Don't fall victim to the 48 other techniques the "worked for me - kinda" community pushes. That's the only file that matters; messing with others typically yields undesirable side effects with no tangible benefit. Been that way for three generations of FireOS dating back 7+ years. Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bendog2784:
Good info. I'm coming from an older Amazon tablet that was a little bit easier to install a custom os on, but it's a bit slow these days. Honestly if I could just get rid of the Amazon stuff and replace my launcher I think I would be a happy camper. The apps I installed, including Nova launcher are still there, but there doesn't seem to be a way now to make Nova the default.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Check out Launcher Hijack if you simply want a different launcher on FireOS (Nova is an excellent choice): https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/launcher-root-launcher-hijack-v2-t3561026
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ghisingbro:
is there anyway to do this with macbook?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yeah, DB is right... I would recommend using Launcher Hijack.

P.S: You can sideload Launcher Hijack streight from the Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I'm afraid not. You can try VirtualBox and emulate Windows and then run the Toolbox if that is something your willing to do...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mrbigaxe:
EDIT: I had a few issues, but I managed to get passed them.

Many thanks for a great tool.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sandstheman:
Ran into an edge case, once the google play framework is installed, i attempt to sign into my gmail account. The issue i'm having is I have my account setup to use my usb yubikey for 2fa security, but the version of the framework that is installed seems to only accept a bluetooth enabled security key (the kind that google sell), there is no option to use my usb security key.

Never had this issue when signing into my google account before, it recognises that I have setup a usb security key, which suggests there is something specific about the version of the framework installed by the toolbox :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] flyyboyy:
Hello to all! Have an HD8 (2018) and have not had success past Step 5 (Scroll down till you find USB Debugging and enable it. ) Whenever I enable USB debugging, I lose connection with the PC (Device Manager then shows "Fire" with the yellow ! point and get "The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)" Then when I disable USB Debugging, all is well again, though obviously cannot use the Toolbox. What am I missing/doing wrong? TIA
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Are you on Windows 7 or below?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] flyyboyy:
Yup, Win7
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok, this happens on Windows 7 and older versions of Windows. Now, unlike Windows 10 the drivers for ADB aren't automatically installed (hence the yellow triangle next to Fire). I have a support video going up on my channel in a few minutes that shows step by step instructions on how to resolve this issue.

Please open the Toolbox and install the drivers as requested if you haven't done so already. If you just installed the drivers please reboot (your PC) after installing them. Then proceed with the tutorial below.

1. Press the Win key + r. Run should now appear.

2. Type "devmgmt.msc" and hit enter (remove the quotes).

3. Plug your tablet into your PC.

4. Under "Other devices" right-click on "Fire".

5. Click "Update driver software..." then "Browse my computer", then click "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer".

6. Click on "Show all devices", then click "Next".

7. Wait for it to retrieve the list.

8. In the manufacturer section scroll down till you find "Amazon.com", then click on it. Next, in the "Model" pane select "Android ADB Interface".

9. Finally, click on "Next".

10. Wait for it to install the driver software and closeout of Device Manager.

11. Return to the Toolbox.

12. Check your tablet and if you see the prompt telling you the computers RSA key make sure to tick the box and confirm.

I hope this has solved your issue and if not please let me know and I'll be happy to assist further.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] quikt:
Thanks no problems following the steps and removing all the Amazon bloat!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hey, no problem at all! I'm just happy to help! Enjoy! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Toolbox V6.1 Update Progress

What's up guys? Datastream here!

Now, I know I've been silent and I want to let you know that I'm working on updating the Toolbox to V6.1. I'm thinking about what needs to be done, and I've decided that Notification Center will be removed from the Toolbox, and root features will be added. These root features will be for devices that have root access, and for devices that don't have a problem mounting /system as read-write. These new features will take over the standard features, and add improved functionality by blocking OTA 100% efficiently, completely removing system apps for a proper debloat experience, and so much more!

Now, I'm not sure about a release date for this one. However, there is a possibility that I may shift my focus and release an entirely different update instead of V6.1 (with root features) if I feel the root features aren't ready and need to be dealt with on a more extreme level. But, we will see and I'll be sure to let you all know ASAP! So, that's all I got for you guys! Thank you for taking the time to read this post, and let me know what you think about this! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] emeraldfox38:
I got the HD8 last month and did all the OTA blocks and ad removals and even replacing the amazon launcher with nova launcher. But after 2 days, I turn on my fire to find that EVERYTHING amazon is back except the ads. I did this at least 3 times and it somehow, someway found a way to update itself. So version 6 right now can't rid the amazon launcher and apps for the newer HD8s? Once I load Nova Launcher and remove the amazon one, I also lose ability to enter photo folder from the camera. It keeps asking me to enable parental controls for it, and even if I did, it gives the same message about needing to enable it. I've given up for now. Should I wait for new release or am I just doing something wrong?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Xenosama:
Oh my .. i just happened to find this thread .. Man you are revived my tablet !!! actually even my daughter was disturbed with amazon junk and rare use it

and i very hope for release with root feature .. and may be with possibility to convert in future .. Fire -> Pixel :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxmark78:
Is there a way to make the BT keyboard (the one from Fintie) for my 2021 Fire HD 10 open up the the custom launcher instead of the Amazon one?

It would be nice if you could re-map the home key to do that, is that even possible?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Just checked the coding and it seems to be correct? But yeah... I did screw up the name in the release notes. There's still issues with detection, right?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Seems to be a some issues with device detection of new Gen 13 HD10s. Hadn't been widely reported yet , so do not sure if it's the problems are isolated or more general.

Liliputing.com did a short report on FTB support for the new HD10s so it's known outside the community.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Also have the Finite keyboard and once upon a time had a flow for this, but I can't seem to find it. So, quickly recreated it in Automate. I've attached the flo below, just extract the flo from the .zip archive, place the flo on your tablet (push the flo to your tablet via the Push & Pull tool, or mount your tablet's internal storage by plugging the tablet into your PC), open the Files app, and navigate to where the flo resides on your tablet, tap on it, and Import it into Automate. Make sure you stop the other Launcher Invoker flo before starting the new one.

Once the new one is started, just hold down the left "control" key and press the left arrow key. It should start your custom launcher! Let us know how it goes. Best of luck! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, I think I may know what's going on, but I'll need some help to confirm my theory. Is this what you guys are seeing?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Similar as reported by @coolloser earlier this week.

Strangely, another user reported 'Goliath' not supported on their new HD10.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] coolloser:
Yup, that's the exact box I saw!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Wow, that's interesting! I wonder why they chose to capitalize the codename... :unsure:

A micropatch should be released soon that will fix this up! Thanks again for the reports guys! You're both legends! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Fire HD10 Gen13 , 2023 is designated Model KFTUWI per Amazon sys documentation.

"tungsten" codename extracted from sysinfo on a pre-release KFTUWI unit submitted for Geekbench performance testing in July, 2023, per attached.

Strange that Amazon would burn "Tungsten" into final release; all previous model codenames were always lowercase.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lcc-marc:
Could you make next update for hybrid?

Since 1.11. disney has new abos and needs new app :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That user was Goldentongue111. I tagged @Datastream33 in hopes that he would inquire directly for further info. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok, Fire Toolbox V32.4 has just been released!

In this release, the only change made was to the device detection code. It should now pick up Tungsten more reliably.

Of course, it can't be as simple as supplying a micropatch. I screwed up the changelog function for the Updater... it's basically pulling the info from a readonly source meaning I can't change it. Go me...

So, I've fixed it and have included an update to the Updater along with V32.4 that will prevent future issues like this from reoccurring.

Anyway, here's the download links:

Version	Installer (.exe)	Portable (.zip)	Update Post	VirusTotal
V32.4	Download	Download	Post	Link

SHA256 Hashes​

Filename	SHA256 Hash
FTB_V32.4_Installer.exe	d1737694e5b577204434fcf71f87be42c62add552ec1cff335c56b6139e81142
FTB_V32.4_Portable.zip	0150923eacdc114aee36ae9f85f093a92da61fc66d8e0f1504aa002f066c6513
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mikhazloy:
windows 8.1 pro x64
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Try this solution by @blaacksheep:

Best of luck, and please let us know how it goes!🤞
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yeah, that is kind of strange indeed... :unsure:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Contacted them via PM and we got things sorted out. :D

Seems Goliath was actually Tungsten in disguise. Thanks again for the tag!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Interesting observations from Amazon Appstore recent screenshot, per attached:

1. Amazon Appstore app recently updated to now include a "device compatability" checker

2. My Fire HD10 (2021) is the only device currently registered to my Amazon account

3. Google Play Services installed and current

3. Netflix is not installed on my Fire HD10

4. Netflix is not installed on any of my Android smartphones, although previously installed and uninstalled.

Question: How does Amazon know what's installed on my smartphone ? Is Amazon "scraping" Google Play Store ??

Edit: On further thought, Appstore may be only considering a Google Play installation to to be an "incompatible" device ? So Amazon knows and is keeping track ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bibikalka:
Can you clarify - if I block these domains on my router, will I avoid OTAs right after I turn it on?

I have a brand new Max 11 sitting in the box, and would like to ensure it does not get any updates after I turn it on. I plan to block these domains using Diversion Ad-Blocking on my Asus router. Later I'd switch to RethinkDNS
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I think the store just tells you what devices you have registered (have signed into Amazon with) that will work with the version of the app in the Amazon store. All the screenshot tells me is that you have a Fire tablet that it will work on, and another "Android device" that isn't Amazon and won't support the Amazon version of Netflix. I don't think they're keeping track of what's on your other devices. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It should block updates immediately, but make sure you reboot your router after adding the blocklist to it to make sure the changes take affect. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bibikalka:
Thanks!

I am thinking this. Just in case, I have a 5->2.4 Ghz wireless bridge. I'll connect Max 11 to 2.4 Ghz Wifi from the bridge, and will watch the logs on Asus. If something screwy is going on, I can immediately pull the power on the bridge router, and kill the connection, LOL. Fastest reaction time, otherwise my internet is too fast, but 2.4 Ghz should limit it to no more than 30 Mbps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I don't think you need to worry that much. Your tablet's wifi and memory resources will probably limit the speed much more than that! ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] shaxs:
Thanks for taking time to respond. It sounds like I should uninstall Gboard and YouTube TV and then use the web version of YouTube TV then. I only use this tablet as the display for my rowing machine, but I wanted to watch some football and row the other night :) I forgot about the web version.