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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pbababab:
Does this work with Fire HD 8 2022?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Arcanon:
That would be me :LOL:

Seamless reversion, Datastream33. I just got mine today and didn't come across any issues.

Noob question: is the system settings menu meant to crash out when trying to update manually via OTA? I also cannot switch OTA updates back on via Toolbox. What happens if Amazon releases a critical security update OTA? fwiw ADB reads:

[init.svc.update_verifier_nonencrypted]: [stopped]
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes, but recent reports have suggested trouble installing Google Services. A workaround that seems to work is installing the previous versions of the apk files and letting the system update itself, so the developer is changing the download links in the program to do exactly that. (If it doesn't work right away, wait a day or two and try again.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

You will gain nothing updating and will probably lose functionality doing that. Amazon doesn't release "critical security updates", only more bloatware that can't be disabled causing you to need to rerun Toolbox and try to get back to where you were.

What tablet and model year is the tablet.?

What firmware are you running? (Can be found by running Toolbox and clicking on your tablet name in the lower-left corner.)

Edit: Generally, the tablet crashing when you run the update app is a good thing. It's usually caused by disabling the app.

The answers can be different for different versions, but generally you want to avoid updates at all costs. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Arcanon:
Fire Max 11. OS 8.3.1.5 (what it came with)

I'm more worried about general Android security patches since that's all OS updates are good for. Toolbox says it's currently only up to 2020-09-05. 😬
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] iarathron:
Thank you very much for resolving this issue. It was particularly frustrating but thankfully your solution worked. I have installed google succesfully.

I can install apps from the play store, but when i install YTKids, when i launch it, it reports that google play services are missing. When i hit install it goes into the play store entry for google play services and then it displays the cancel or uninstall buttons... Did i do something wrong? Regular youtube works with no issue.

Thanks once again for all your help!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Arcanon:
Once you install google services and connect to wifi it's better to just leave your device alone for 10-20 minutes as it updates itself/syncs in the background. Maybe try again a little later?

Or it might due to the Google Family Link issue which is explained in the FAQ on page 1.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Ongoing incompatibility/instability issues of some Google-branded apps with Fire OS 8.3.1.x as enumerated here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox-v30-2.3889604/post-88370217

Partial resolution for YTKids problem by sideloading older YTKids app Ver 6.37.5 (October, 2021) from a reputable APK repository.

Also YouTube Kids web app can be accessed from any web browser @ https://www.youtubekids.com (in desktop mode).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Thank you so much for the help! I really appreciate it!

Hmm, so fire launcher is there in the list. That's very strange the disable-user command didnt return any output. Would you be willing to run the command again, just in a different manner?

In the ADB Shell, can you please type "cmd" (without quotes) to open the shell in Command Prompt. Now type "exit" so we can return to a standard windows shell prompt. Now finally, try running the disable-user command again:

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.firelauncher

When doing it this way, we are able to see ALL output (which hopefully is the output the Toolbox isn't getting).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] johnnyspork:
Yep, it's a protected package. Here's the output:

Spoiler content hidden.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ah man... :(

So I'm guessing the OTA packages are in the same boat. Hmm, well at least the Max has a decent amount of RAM so the workarounds shouldn't be too taxing on it unlike the FireOS 7.3.2.2+ devices. Well, on the bright side at least the Launcher Hijack method seems to be working as I don't think the Custom Navbar would even work anymore due to Google removing the ability to modify the system ui navbar in later versions of Android.

Alright, I'll update the Toolbox so it applies the "restricted" flag to the Fire Max 11. Doing so will make the other custom launcher activation methods availiable (I'll be sure to enable the Launcher Hijack method for it), and the OTA Updates restrict able. I wonder if this means the other devices that run FireOS 8 will be getting an update to make the Fire Launcher, and OTA Packages protected system apps...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
## CAUTIONARY NOTE for all FireOS 8.3.1.x users ##

Including 12th Gen Fire 7 /Fire HD 8 (2022) and 13th Gen Fire Max 11 (2023)

Make sure you have disabled OTA f/w Updates !!

From the effects of recent posts above, f/w 8.3.1.9 update may be limiting the ability of Fire Toolbox to make mods without the the use of workaround procedures. Circumstances may be similar to the effects of f/w 7.3.2.2 and later which expanded Amazon's use of "protected" system apps and blocked simple ADB manipulations.

Your existing Fire Toolbox mods may be at risk if your tablet autoupdates to f/w 8.3.1.9 .

Situation is evolving and has not been fully assessed. Standby for further developments.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I think my tablet has a date like that too. It's not accurate. The good news is that there have been no reports here of any new security vulnerabilities being actively exploited. I'm on the second oldest firmware on my HD10 (2019) and haven't had an issue, but to be fair, it's not my primary internet device. I use it mostly for watching videos and playing music.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
FWIW - used Toolbox to effortlessly install "Google Services" and make others tweaks on a Fire Max 11 running firmware 8.3.1.9. Worked like a charm; no issues. While I am a longtime Nova and (more recently) Microsoft launcher user, I do not expect these to work reliably on Amazon gizmos so only made a passing attempt to install Nova. Works fine, but can't be made the default w/o doinking around. Amazon launcher is serviceable; will stick with that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] vjunk:
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling LauncherHijack with reboots in between and following the troubleshooting steps on the GitHub site and I could not get it to work. So, Datastream33, is there a way to rerun the script that replaces the Home button with the one that runs the Automate script?

On a positive note, I found a workaround for something. I set Pattern for my lockscreen since that's what I normally use and, by the time I'm ready to change my pattern, I'm sure I'll be ready to rebuild the tablet. The next day, I tried to enable encryption but it wouldn't let me because I could not enter my Pattern unlock. Before factory resetting, I decided to try a few things, such as trying to bring up the Pattern lockscreen via ADB in Termux, an Automate flow to get around it, etc. Nothing worked but, as I was about to give up, I started entering an incorrect Pattern into the lockscreen. After about 10 times, it brought up a "Forgot Password" prompt and let me disable the Pattern unlock using my Amazon credentials. I then changed it to a PIN unlock and encrypted the tablet. :) So, if anyone wants to turn off Pattern unlock without a factory reset, sign in with an Amazon account, then lock the tablet and enter the incorrect Pattern a dozen times.

Fire HD 10 (11th gen) on Fire OS 7.3.2.7, using the Linux version of the Fire Toolbox
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Great that you can confirm that f/w 8.3.1.9 is still a stable platform for Google Play Services infrastructure and that stock Fire Max 11 is basically a solid tablet for Android apps.

As a veteran Fire tablet user, you've always advocated for a "minimalist" KISS approach to Fire tablet mods and that approach is probably still true for Fire Max 11. Experience is a ruthless teacher.

If Amazon is being more aggrlessive at locking-down FireOS 8, there will be a lot of frustration/tears for Gen 12/13 Fire tablet modders going forward, if they're not careful ... f/w 7.3.2 .2 revisited.

Hope the new folks coming here with their new Amazon Prime Day "treasures" won't be too disappointed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] michele86:
I'm one of the people that jumped on the Prime Day deals and just got a Fire Max 11. I followed the Fire Toolbox guide step by step and everything is working well except for Chrome that won't recognize my account. I don't think it's an issue with the Google account manager as other apps (YouTube, Gmail, etc.) log me in without a hitch. Anybody got any suggestions on how to get Chrome to recognize my google account? Maybe using an older apk version? Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lukems:
Glad to hear that's worked well!

My fire toolbox V31.0 just crashes (closes with no error) when trying to install google services. Very curious - I'll keep trying.

I managed to turn off OTA on my Fire Max 11, reportedly.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Great that you got your Fire Max 11 successfully modded with Fire Toolbox. Nice deal on Prime Day.

Your Google account data may he corrupted on your Chrome install.

Try clearing the the Chrome data and client storage caches and signing-in again:

from Settings > Apps & Notifications > Chrome > Storage > hit Clear Storage, Clear Cache

BTW, which version of FireOS 8 are you using ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] friendsfan:
Also new Fire Max 11 User here.....

Having the same exact issue. Chrome always tries to add new Account, which of course fails because its already installed with Google Play. Resetting Chrome App didnt help.

Fire OS 8.1.3.5 (3/2023).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] michele86:
FIre OS version is 8.1.3.5 (immediately disabled OTA/auto updates) but clearing storage & cache didn't work either. I also tried to remove and re-install the Google services but same result. If I login to Google account within Chrome (e.g. going to Gmail) it works and keeps the browser session active but that won't enable the sync feature (device Google account vs browser session one).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Looks like there may a problem with the Google Account Manager handling of multiple Chrome sign-ins. If locally resitting Chrome app didn't work, then try globally signing out of Google and resetting all the Google-branded app sign-ins.

But you can't manage Google accounts from Fire tablets; FireOS is missing some parts of Android to fullly manage Google accounts. From a PC or another Android device (not an Amazon Fire device) or from Google web app on a browser :

Open Google app and open your Google account (tap yourGoogle avatar , upper right) > open "Manage your Google Account" > open "Security" tab > scroll down to "Your Devices" and tap to expand > open your Fire Max 11 entry and tap expand to the right > tap "Sign Out" . There may be multiple Fire Max 11 instances ; signout all of them as required.

Return to your Tire Max 11 and sign-in to Google again. Hopefully that should handle the Chrome sign-in situation.

If this doesn't work, there maybe a deeper problem with the current version of Google Play infrastructure.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] friendsfan:
That didnt help in my case. In fact, i didnt even get sigend out. Opening the Play Store, i was still logged in. I tried "removing" the Google Account via Settings Optionm which seemed to work.

I could add my Account again, but as before, not for Google Chrome, which asked to add the account again.

Maybe @michele86 has more luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Much of Goggle account management is disabled on Fire tablets.; you can sign-in but not much else. FireOS is missing the necessary code for proper Google account function , especially account synching. See my reply to @friendsfan immediately above.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Looks like a deeper problem with Google Play infrastructure.

Signing out Google accounts on a Fire tablet from a PC or another Android device is SOP; should have worked for Chrome.

Everything appeared to be working up until late last week. It may be related to the July update of Android/Google Framework System/Google Play Store released last week and may be isolated Fire Max 11.

Not sure where the problem is.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
I see a few voices experiencing difficulty w/Chrome. I use Opera is my primary; Edge as secondary. The latter syncs w/Microsoft; the former has a proprietary sync engine. Both work without a hitch.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] phonyz:
Not sure why but Nova launcher works fine. I used the same computer with Fire Toolbox 9.x to install on a 2019 fire HD 10. I uninstalled the old toolbox then installed the v31. When installing launcher, it said the launcher exists so it didn't have to download.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] natemac:
New Fire Max 11 user. For what it’s worth, I was trying to install google services and it ALWAYS said i had a broken or dead link. I also have Eero routers and had the advance security running, that was blocking the download…. Just in case some else runs into this.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] skinnypope:
Replaced an old Fire 8 HD Plus with a new 2022 model on Prime Day.

F/W 8.3.1.9 was installed and with Toolbox v31 I got all Google services up and running.

2 issues:

1. Schrodingers auto-updates: Toolbox says that they are on, then they are off, Fire tablet says off. Not sure therefore if they are on or off.

2. Nova launcher will install but not work. I tried LauncherHijack but this didn't seem to work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
Hello,

I'm trying to install install the linux version and getting the following....

[]$ ./FTB_Beta_V2.0_Installer

Traceback (most recent call last):

File ".pyarmor/pack/dist/Installer.py", line 2, in <module>

File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1027, in _find_and_load

File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1006, in _find_and_load_unlocked

File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 688, in _load_unlocked

File "PyInstaller/loader/pyimod02_importers.py", line 352, in exec_module

File "<frozen pyarmor_runtime_004083>", line 2, in <module>

RuntimeError: this license key is expired (1:10853)

[3927] Failed to execute script 'Installer' due to unhandled exception!

Searching the thread, some people have resolved the problem by making sure their Fire (mine's an 8) is unlocked and awake, That doesn't work for me and I still get the above error. Is it perhaps a problem with pyarmor? Or some kind of licence key?

I'd really appreciate any help and I've tried a number of things already :)

Edit: I've installed the toolbox on an old Win7 PC I have so I'm able to tweak my Fire but the above error still happen on my linux laptop
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] phonyz:
I got the Nova launcher v6.2.12 installed, which works as expected. No more Amazon launcher on the startup. With all the problems reported, I'm not going to update it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ristle2:
Similar situation. Just had mine arrived, installed Nova via the setup tour, worked the first time. Connected to the internet (According to the modify settings I had disabled updates), then when I tried to open the home screen it flashes like it attempts to load, closes then repeats. Same with Niagara and Evie.

07-13 13:21:54.058 906 2084 D ConnectivityService: requestNetwork for uid/pid:10199/5443 NetworkRequest [ TRACK_DEFAULT id=38, [ Capabilities: INTERNET&NOT_RESTRICTED&TRUSTED Uid: 10199 AdministratorUids: [] RequestorUid: 10199 RequestorPackageName: com.teslacoilsw.launcher] ]
07-13 13:21:54.058 906 1006 D ConnectivityService: NetReassign [no changes]
07-13 13:21:54.416 5443 5443 E AndroidRuntime: FATAL EXCEPTION: main
07-13 13:21:54.416 5443 5443 E AndroidRuntime: Process: com.teslacoilsw.launcher, PID: 5443
07-13 13:21:54.416 5443 5443 E AndroidRuntime: java.lang.SecurityException: addOnPermissionsChangeListener: Neither user 10201 nor current process has android.permission.OBSERVE_GRANT_REVOKE_PERMISSIONS.
07-13 13:21:54.416 5443 5443 E AndroidRuntime: at android.os.Parcel.createExceptionOrNull(Parcel.java:2373)

Went digging through logs, but not sure if that has anything to do with it. I factory reset, followed the steps again, and again it worked until I added my WiFi. If it helps, I'm also unable to register the device to access the amazon apps that I left installed, the button does nothing. The Google Play store also doesn't open, immediately closes.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gdroid666:
What is the deal with this?

my fire max 11 said off on the tablet but it updated to 8.3.1.9

it was already updated when I ran the toolbox (3.1).

But I get the same behavior you describe.

Is it possible to disable OTA updates in 8.3.1.5 but not on 8.3.1.9 on the max 11 or does it just not work on either FW version?

Same question for PM disable servies, were fire launcher and OTA services not protected on 8.3.1.5 but now are on 8.3.1.9?

I also noticed that disable lock screen worked but after a while it has reverted to having lock screen ads again.

maybe I rebooted, does removing lock screen ads not survive reboot?

also was not able to replace the launcher toolbox,it said success with the disable fire launcher option even though it seems that it is not even possible, the only other option was Automate and that isn't working either but I think it failed to import the flow even though it said it was scuccessful , are these successful confirmation messages just for show essentially or do they do actual checks or do they just report that the script has been run but not check if it has installed the hijack or diabled the service?

maybe I should just exchange for a new tablet on 8.3.1.5?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gdroid666:
On which FW and a can you explain the process, when I use toolbox 31.0

there are only 2 options that are not greyed out in custom launcher tool, one is for disabling fire launcher and the other is for the Automate app, neither one works for me, on 8.3.1.9.

when you say launcher hijack I assume you are not refering to the Automate method?

and not the remap home buton method does not upport reboot.

I rmemebr usiegn a launcher hijack .apk on my olf gen 1 fire TV sticks is it somethig liek that, and do you haver the name of the apk i need
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] James62370:
Thank you for keeping this app up to date!

Also recently got the FireMax 11. Current firmware 8.3.1.5 - I've disabled OTA Updates with FTB. I was able to get the Google Play Store to install, however as others have previously noted, many apps which are heavily dependent on the google infrastructure don't work correctly. Besides Chrome which others have mentioned I'd like to add the following to the mix.

Google Meet - Installs but can't add phone number - Error "Something went wrong. Please try again".

Google Fit - Error "Can't reach Google. Check your internet con... Retry"

Google Authenticator - Error "Authenticator can't run without Google Play Services" - though it is installed.

Google Assistant - Error "Assistant won't run without Google Play Services" - though it is installed

Google Translate - Same as above

Some apps that work, but throws the Play Services error every now and then. (I just disable the notifications).

Chrome - can use, but can't login with account - states user already exists.

Google Photos

GMail

GBoard

Google Voice

Google Calendar (make sure you have calendar sync installed)

Google Contacts (make sure you have contacts sync installed - there was an error on initial install with FTB (Fix was previously stated about sideloading it from apkpure).

That's all I can think of for now. Hopefully, this community can find fixes for some of these issues.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Arcanon:
Toolbox it before connecting it to wifi. This allowed me to disable OTA permanently while on 8.3.1.5.

However I personally came across some bugs, possibly with this Fire OS version, and noticed Toolbox didn't allow me to switch OTA back on, so I ended up resetting and updating to 8.3.1.9 anyway. Play services still work fine (apart from the general issues listed by James62370).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] AndoverHills15:
Hi all

Just received my Max 11, came with 8.3.1.5. Should I hold off using Fire Toolbox and wait for an update? Looks as if V31.0 isn't 100% optimized for the new pad/OS.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Thanks for for the great post!

The list of incompatible/unstable Goggle-branded apps on FireOS 8 keeps growing as Google keeps updating the Google Play infrastructure. With the July update, it looks like they got to Gmail and Chrome.

I'll append the "naughty/bad " list, but it's probably easier to keep a list what still works ☹️.

Many of them G-branded apps can be reliably accessed as web apps through a browser ... inconvenient but workable.

I'm beginning to question whether the G-apps are still reliable on the new Gen of Fire tablets. Google doesn't have to entirely "kill off" Goggle Play on Fire tablets, but hey can make it virtually unusable.

Fortunately that are lots of non-G-app alternatives, if your not totally embedded in the Google Workplace ecosystem.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
@Datastream33 is just sorting out the bugs and procedures for FTB on the new Fire Max 11 now. It looks like f/w 8.3.1.9 update will bring a bit of a headache.

If you can hold off a bit until things settle out, I think you can save yourself some frustrations and irritation when making your FTB mods.

Regardless, please make every effort to maintain f/w 8.3.1.5 to make your FTB mods as easy and reliable as possible.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
TL;DR If you can, return your Fire Max 11 to Amazon and get a fresh OOTB unit with f/w 8.3.1.5 and try again.

With f/w 8.3.1.9 update , it looks like Amazon has begun "lockingdown" FireOS 8 so that easy ADB changes to diable OTA Update and Fire Launcher apps are blocked and will require workaround solutions. The workarounds are very viable but a total PITA to execute and a burden on already limited Fire tablet system resources.

f/w 8.3.1.5 still allows for really easy FTB mods wihith just ADB commands and with minimum effort; so if you can get a fresh OTTB unit AND follow FTB install procedures to block OTA updates, I think you'll be "golden".