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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tahj78:
Thanks!

Thanks so much for this. . . it works great. . . . i have one question about sideloading apps though.. . . hopefully you can help. . .

there is an app that I use for work purposes. . . its called POI Loader. . . . . it says that the app is not compatible with the tablet. . . so it will not allow me to install it the normal way (through the Play Store). . . . So I have went to apkmirror to download the apk to my computer. . . I attempted to sideload through your toolkit, and it keeps saying that the app is already installed. . . . But i don't see it in my app drawer, nor in the app list under settings. . . do you have any ideas on what i can do to get it installed. . . it is actually the main reason why i purchased this tablet, but I'm not having any luck at all.

here is the link to the actual app that I'm trying to side load.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lentz.poiloaderpro&hl=en_US

Thanks in advance for any help you could provide!!!

T.J.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DJames1:
When you "remove" the Amazon apps with the toolbox, it doesn't actually remove them and free up memory, right? It just disables and hides? Not that this is unique to Amazon - my other OEM versions of Android from companies like Motorola and LG do this too.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ramblnman:
Remove just some Amazon apps

When I choose 'manual' to remove some of the Amazon apps on my Fire HD10, it is still removing everything (it does stop to ask the questions about Fire Launcher and the Fire Keyboard and if I say no, it does not remove them). I wanted to leave Prime Video. The same with restore - if I choose to restore just Prime Video, I get everything. Is it possible to leave just a few Amazon apps?

Besides that, everything appeared to work fine.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] KevMetal:
you can install any launcher you like . i use lawnchair ...your problem is you SOME launcher to boot ..

you can manually install launcher from twrp recovery by downloading the apk and pushing it to your device via adb or sd card

the just copy paste it using twrp to

/system/apps

*remember to mount system in the mount page first
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] CheapFire:
Thank you! This is my first Fire and I'm learning as I go along. I bought it with the intention of rooting it. So I installed Nova launcher using the Toolbox. I think I'm done unless I try different launchers! :laugh:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tahj78:
anyone have any ideas for this issue? Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] klausb65:
I apologize in advanced but do you have the apk file? I think it is only possible with apk.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] KevMetal:
your adb drivers arent installed properly

you need to uninstall the current driver in device manager

then plug in device

then in pop up dialogue choose install manually

then in your user/data/amazon folder must be the correct ini file ( driver)

select & watch magic happen

---------- Post added at 02:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:01 PM ----------

it might be possible that this apk doesnt run on your fire ...for lack of sensors or other dependencies

just install Mixplorer from XDA

then put the apk file from apk mirror on your sd

navigate to apk using mixplorer

give mixplorer root permissions

then use the mixplorer install option not regular install .....if it runs ...good ..if it doesnt you are sol
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] KevMetal:
here is a photo from mixplorer

dont choose package installer , use the "install" button to do direct install
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Drunkpilot:
Can't you just use a file explorer, like ES file explorer, go into the folder you have the apk in, and install it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] WhB/K:
Hello,

I own a HD10plus with FIREOS version 7.3.2.1. The Firetools worked great and my tablet looks very clean.

Now I wanted to create a profile for my son. However, the profile management crashes on startup. Which jobs do I have to activate again? Can I deactivate them again after creating the profiles?

I have read FamilyLink does not run but Amazon Freetime can be used, do I have to activate other jobs?

Unfortunately, I have found nothing about this in the FAQs.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

You've run into Amazon's latest measure to assure that we don't disable OTA Updates so they can force their "new improved" firmware on us! Fear not. I have the updated apps pulled from one of the newer tablets. Look at the last link in my signature. It's a link to my Google Drive with updated apk files of the most commonly used apps. If you tried updating them from the Play Store or somewhere else, then remove those updates leaving only the native app installed. Then install the apk(s) that you need from my files over the intalled apps. That should get you going again. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wolv275:
You are a legend. Thanks for what you do! 🦄
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Good questions. I'll see if I can help you out.

Although I haven't played around much in Profile Management, I believe you need to have Device Setup enabled (Shop Amazon may also need to be active in order to sign in). I would leave them enabled after you create the other profile because you may need them to sign in to the other account, but you're free to try disabling them again if they're not needed.

I'm really not certain about Freetime, but would assume that it also needs Device Setup, possibly Shop Amazon, and if you have trouble with Freetime working you may also need to go into Manage Amazon Apps > Manual tab > Advanced > Disabled/Hidden Apps and then re-enable DPC Client. I believe DPC stands for Device Policy Control and you may need that active to grant the requested permissions or set policy for the Freetime account. This last part is a guess so don't do it unless things crash or otherwise fail. I think it gets turned off by parental controls hide.

Good luck. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] smirnoff9969:
great, now I did all that but have no more internet connection. none.

FireTab see my network but can`t access to net.

I don`t use VPN at all.

what now?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Alright, maybe I left something out of my guide. Lets check your configuration in RethinkdNS.

Open the RethinkDNS app. tap "DNS" in the upper-right. Under "Type", make sure it is set to RethinkDNS (the third option). Tap RethinkDNS on the list for extended options. Tap either RethinkDNS Default, or RethinkDNS Plus if you wanted any blocklists in Rules. Either will work. Tap "Check for updates" in the upper-right corner. If it updates or says updates available, you've fixed it. Tap again to download the updates.

Let me know if that fixes things.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] smirnoff9969:
still no luck, I check all as you sugested...

but on the upper right corner, beside WI-FI icon is a small key. It says "rehink DNS connected.

s this correct?

EDIT:

STOP!! HOLD IT!!

you didn`t manshioned after instaling rethinkDNS and activity louncher Firetab should be rebooted!! now I did that (cross my mind) and now internet work!!

thanks !!

oh 1 more question - is there a way to remove some icons from "desktop" , like amazon kids, kindle,amazon music etc. don`t wanna deinstall , just remove form "desktop"?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] stcardinal:
I used the new Toolbox v30 which seems to have its own OTA disable is that enough to prevent new updates from happening? Need some clarity, thanks or do I need to do it in combination with rethinkDNS and Activity Launcher?

Also, when I reboot, I am in Fire launcher again, I need to enable automate everytime. Did I do something wrong?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] smirnoff9969:
go to "blocking OTA updates" in "blacksheep"`s signature, it will lead you to page 531 where he explains everythnig - I did that few hours ago and now works fine. just restart your Firetab at the end.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Ahh... I'll add that!

Those icons are part of the default Amazon Launcher. You can either remove some of them by following @Jumbo100's advice in this post, or running the Custom Launcher tool in Toolbox and using Custom Navbar Key. If you choose to do the latter, be sure to follow the directions EXACTLY so that Automate gets installed properly and gets all it's permissions. Otherwise, you'll have a Home key that does nothing and you'll have to launch the Launcher you chose just like an app every time.

Edit: Just added the note about rebooting. Thanks @smirnoff9969 !(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] stcardinal:
Yeah I followed your guide and it was easy to follow, but I ran into the same issue where it just blocked all of my Wifi. But a reboot helped. Thanks for putting that guide together, it's invaluable!

BTW do you happen to know why every time I reboot my fire it takes me back to the Fire Launcher. Automate doesn't seem to set it as default on start up. Is this normal or did I miss a step somewhere?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That is completely normal. Nothing is able to change your "default launcher" because Amazon has locked that down. The Amazon Launcher will still come up on a boot/reboot. I don't know if Automate can be made to bypass that after a boot. @Datastream33's alternate Launcher Invoker[2].flo script doesn't even do it, but it prevents the Amazon Launcher from appearing after clearing all in the recents list. I'm not sure if that's the current script that Toolbox installs, but you can check by tapping recents and clearing all. If you get your launcher then it is. If you get Amazon's launcher then it isn't. If it isn't and you want that, I'll find Datastream33's post about it and you can import it into Automate. (y)

Edit: Looking at the release notes on Toolbox v.30.0, it seems that the Launcher Invoker[2].flo has been added! I'd also forgotten that Datastream33 had added a DNS Settings launcher to the Networking tab of Modify System Settings, making it easier to launch that activity without using Activity Launcher. (I'll still keep Activity Launcher because it allows access to other hidden settings that Amazon so thoughtfully removed from normal users.) ;-b Amazon!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I keep rereading this and I can't figure out what "X" you are talking about. Do you mean the "X" in the upper-right corner of a window on your Windows computer? Do you mean the square at the bottom of your tablet's screen? What tabs are you talking about? Your browser on your tablet or computer? I can't figure out what you are talking about.

If you explain a little further, I'll try to help you.

Developer mode can be switched off, but it isn't necessary. If you do switch it back off and want to change anything with Toolbox, you'll have to switch it back on in order to make further changes. In short, I wouldn't bother unless you have a specific need to shut it back off.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TheBromToTheLey:
Hey there friends, I have a Fire HD 10 that I bought on July 19th 2021 that I'm attempting to convert using the fire toolbox v30. I just reset the table to the factory defaults however I'm running into what looks like a downloading error while trying to install google play services.

Does anyone happen to have any ideas?

Here is the error image

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TheBromToTheLey:
I swear I looked before but I just came across this post (https://xdaforums.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox-v30-0.3889604/post-87751027) and after following the steps everything is now working properly.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MisterKevster:
Thanks for gettin' back blaacksheep!!

I'll try to improve the description.......

I'm referring 100% to the Fire HD10 tablet.

When the square icon (bottom centre right) is selected.....I get a view of recently viewed pages. The Nexus7 (which I had been using) shows these pages with an X....allowing each to be separately closed.

The Fire HD10 allows the pages to be viewed....but not closed...as there isn't an X

....I think (always dangerous :) ) that I'm viewing the 'carousel'....and have just discovered that items are removed by selecting a 'remove from carousel' option!!

Haven't been able to try this yet....but hopefully that will provide the answer to my question!!?

I'll be leaving development mode on...thanks.

....and will also look at your section on 'Blocking OTA Updates' too.

Many thanks....from a cold, miserable Leeds/UK :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] fredvjupiter:
I ran into the same issue. Turns out temporarily disabling Pi-hole (https://pi-hole.net/) solved it and allowed me to download the Play Services from within Fire Toolbox. If you are running some kind of ad-blocking service on your network, this might be the reason ...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jdogggg:
Hey folks!

First off, kudos to Datastream33 for a great tool and everyone else for all the support they provide. It's fantastic to see such a great community coming together to help each other out!

I've used toolbox v30 on an HD8 (10th gen) that is on 7.3.2.6. I used the 'fallback' method in the toolbox to disable OTA. What I discovered is it prevents the Disney+ app from downloading videos - I think because it believes wifi to be disabled. If I re-enabled OTA, it starts to download again.

I'm assuming it's a matter of using Blacksheep's RethinkDNS method instead but wanted to see what you think before going that route.

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Ah, you're talking about the "Recents" menu. It's easy to close an app there. Depending on your firmware version, you just swipe an app left or right to close on older fiirmware, and up on newer firmware. You can also choose "Clear all" at the top on older F/W, or the left-hand end of the apps on newer F/W.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah. The newest method of blocking OTA updates tells the tablet that it's on a metered network so that it won't download anything that's MB intensive (which OTA updates and movies are). That works and can be easily implemented, but it does have some drawbacks as you've seen.

The RethinkDNS solution seems to be working, is not that difficult, and it's only drawback is that you can't run a VPN with it running because it uses the VPN interface that Android provides. If you do need to run a real VPN, you'll have to use the method in Toolbox, or put an Amazon blocklist in your router, or run a Pi-Hole with the Amazon Servers Pi-Holed. Those last 2 methods mean that you are only protected when you are on your home network, so be aware.;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jdogggg:
That’s what I figured. Thanks for the confirmation and speedy reply!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] 10HDGermany:
Hello all!

I just got a Fire HD 10 with following Build Date: 29 MAY 2021 Fire OS 7.3.1.9

First thing I did, is to download Toolbox v30 and get rid of the Ads, and install google play store. Then some of the Amazon Apps did not work anymore,device not supported. Thx to Blaacksheep I could resolve.

Following question, getting rid of the Apps in the version I am in, did it automatically block the OTA Updates?

I did read that some devices have problems with the launcher, what launcher works best with my 7.3.1.9 version?

Should I Update from this version?

any recommendations ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Most likely it did block OTA updates because it automatically warns me that they aren't blocked in my 7.3.2.3 tablet (which can't be blocked by disabling OTA updates anyway). Also, you would have already been updated to 7.3.2.6 by this point if they weren't disabled. To verify that they're disabled, connect to Toolbox and go to Manage System Settings.

The second line will tell you if they're disabled or not. If the slider is to the left, then they are. (The screenshot is from my 7.3.2.3 tablet where they can't be disabled.) You want the first two options disabled, and the third enabled.

I think that most of the launcher issues that are being seen are due to either the Google Drive account having already reached it's limit for the day and not downloading anything until the next day, or people not understanding that the newer firmware needs careful attention to the way the Custom Navbar Key is installed in order to fully work. I usually recommend Nova Launcher only because its pretty "vanilla" and it works very well.

Updating firmware is definitely not advised. If you turn on OTA updates again, it will jump straight to the latest version (7.3.2.6) and leave you with a whole mess of workarounds needed to make Amazon leave you alone. (They'll also slow your tablet down because of the extra memory they require.) Once updated, you can't go back to the old version and are stuck. If you were to find a .bin file of the last version of firmware to fully work with Toolbox (7.3.2.1) for your specific tablet, I suppose you might be able to load it but you wouldn't gain anything even if successful. I always advise people to never allow updates to Amazon tablets if they want to retain ownership and control over them instead of giving Amazon a free billboard to advertise "new and improved" placards to purchase more Amazon stuff. /rant

;-b ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MisterKevster:
Yes....I got there...and you're absolutely right

Swiping UP....removes from list....great :).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sd_dracula:
So for now v30 doesn't work to block OTA on fire hd10 gen11 correct?

And I have to use this method here? https://xdaforums.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox-v30-0.3889604/post-87753555
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mojospur:
Hi there,

I cant get it working, the launcher doesnt work. I cant get google services. is this because if the version im on? is there any way to get google play a safe way? I would defo make a new google account though too. any ideas? Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
FTB will block OTA updates with the new method on newer firmware (v7.3.2.2+), but it will also stop you from downloading Disney movies and will stop all other background data transfer too. If you don't want that and you don't use a VPN, then the method outlined in my guide will do the trick without blocking anything but 4 Amazon updating apps from internet access. The guide is in the last link in my signature. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

First off, what firmware version are you running? I assume it's 7.3.2.6 because of your problems with the launcher. If that's the case, you'll have to follow the instructions the program gives you EXACTLY so that Automate gets installed properly and gets all required permissions.

Second issue could be a number of things, but most likely it's because too many people have downloaded the files today and Google isn't serving the files anymore today. (That's the problem with using Google Drive as a means of sharing files to a large number of people.) Try again tomorrow and if you get there early enough, it should work.

There are other "safe" ways to get Google Services installed, but it involves picking out the correct files from a variety of different ones and installing them in the correct order. I'd recommend trying it again tomorrow the easier way before doing it manually. If you don't succeed, I'll point you to a guide on where to get the files and which ones to pick. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JumpingJack123:
Hi folks, I just got my Fire HD 10 (2021) and luckily it shipped with 7.3.2.1. I noticed it tried to connect to my wifi at the start, even though I unchecked the "Link device" box upon ordering. Sneaky buggers...

Now I'm just hoping FTB's "OTA updates: disabled" really means that it'll safely stay on 7.3.2.1.

Anyway major thanks to @Datastream33 for the "new user tour" in FTB. I was afraid I'd have to discover all the options and which ones to use, but the tour runs all the useful changes.

And also a big thank you to all the helpful people in this thread - @Jumbo100 , @blaacksheep and way too many others! Your posts have helped me make this setup easy as pie. And now I'm going to install some Play Store apps. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tk–421:
Hi guys!

Just bought the new Fire HD 8 2022, running Fire OS 8.3.1.3. Loving the improved experience over the 2020 version, the quality of the display is miles ahead in terms of color accuracy, despite not being laminated.

I installed the Google Play services manually using the How to Geek guide, and everything is working really well.

Only problem is that I cannot make any of the two the custom launcher methods work. This is using Fire Toolbox 30.0. It seems like the button presses are registered because the screen does react at the end of the ADB commands, but my custom launcher (Microsoft Launcher) doesn't open.

When using the second method, Fire Tool box does install Automate on my tablet, yet there is no flo that can be seen in the application.

Am I doing anything wrong or does the Fire Toolbox cannot yet implement a custom launcher on Fire OS 8?

I own both the latest 10 and 8 tablets, and I really love the devices after customizing them. I'd love the launcher to work on the 8 to make my experience near perfect.

Thanks in advance guys! Thanks to Datastream for the great work!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Hmmm..... it seems that your installation was incomplete. If you successfully installed your launcher and Automate, but it somehow didn't download the .flo file with it, you probably didn't follow the given instructions precisely.

Make sure that Automate is allowed to start automatically on boot, and import the attached file into it. The Automate app needs ALL it's permissions granted in order for the remapping to work. Then start the attached .flo file (attached in .zip format, meaning it has to be extracted and imported first), and if all goes well your tablet will function as desired.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] charliehorseuk:
Hi everyone first i would like to say a huge thank you to Datastream33 for this amazing tool.

I bought a Fire HD 10+ and using the tool i have the tablet running nearly perfectly apart from one small issue. I have set Nova as my launcher which works almost perfectly for what i need apart from when using full screen apps. When i swipe up to bring up the nav bar in a fullscreen app and then hit the home button nothing happens even though i can see its detecting im touching the button. If i press the switch app button that does work so i can then hit the home button to get back to the launcher. Is this just something i need to live with or is there anything i can do to fix this behavior?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lovingboth:
I tried the Amazon ROM version first - it told me it was no longer supported and opened a browser page.

I then tried the Google Play version, expecting it not to work (and it doesn't!)

Thanks, I will try the apk...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Eldith:
I have just got a Fire 10 tab, I'm running through the first setup and just got to using Fire ToolBox on pc.

Just installed V30 but when running it for the first time it hangs on Starting the Android Debug Bridge and will not run (have waited for about 1-2 hours) have tried a multiple restarts and a reinstall. Any help would be great.

Edit: Have just tried V30 on a another machine same issue