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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MattressJack:
Hello, I’m very new to this site, and I would like to ask for some help. I wanted to have Google Play on my new Fire 7 tablet (2022). I installed Fire Toolbox 29 and was able to install Google Play on my Fire, but after rebooting, Google Play did not open and it kept crashing. I thought there might be something wrong with Toolbox. I decided to uninstall and reinstall. It did not uninstall the Toolbox and the uninstall icon is gone from ‘Uninstall or change a program page’. What should I do to uninstall the Toolbox when I do not see the uninstall icon anymore?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] supernoodles2011:
Hi, I was just wondering if there's any way we can disable the dnd shortcut on the volume slider (the bell). I use a volume limiter on my son's Fire tab to avoid hearing loss when he uses his headphones, as he tends to whack it to 100%, but when he activates DND mode, the limiter doesn't work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] maxuzu12:
hi does it work on fire os 5.7.0.0??
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Yes ... If your Fire tablet is listed, you're good!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Major incompatibility between Fire OS 8 on new 12th Gen 2022 Fire tablets and Google Play infrastructure ... they just won't work together ... not a problem Fire Toolbox can "fix".

If you want to remove FTB from your compter, open Windows File Explorer and delete the File Toolbox folder from your "User" profile.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MattressJack:
Thank you so much for your suggestion, Jumb0100.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Have you tried "Volume Lock" app on Google Play Store?

I think it has a "System-wide" function which can override and disable "Do Not Disturb" volume level settings ... also has "parental password" lock, of course !

Not sure if it fully works on FireOS.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bibikalka:
Is there any way I can update the Fire OS after I used the tool?

I have an HD10 2019 with 7.3.1.2, and would like to get it to 7.3.1.9.

I could probably reset it to enable the update program, turn WiFi off, copy the 7.3.1.9 ROM file to the tablet and let it pick it up. Then run this tool.

But is there a way to enable the update back after I used this tool already to disable the update (without factory reset)? I'd sideload the update file, let it update in offline mode, and then do the tool again to disable the updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Fire Toolbox can and cannot do. From your discription, you have a basic understanding "rooting" Android devices and working with custom ROMs. That helps a lot.

1. FTB is NOT a "rooting" tool; primarily it's a curated set of ADB commands which operates in the "middleware" level and NOT the on FIre OS "kernel".

2. The "Update" function in FTB relates only to FTB only and not to FireOS; in situ FireOS updates can only be accomplished by OTA updates and will update to the current version f/w 7.3.2.4 only. Amazon does not archive previous FIreOS versions.

3. There are no working XDA exploit to "rollback" or otherwise manipulate any current FireOS ROMs. Amazon apparently has a software/hardware "e-fuse" which may "trip" and "hard brick" the device ... there doesn't even seem to be decent bootloader exploit to even begin the "rooting" process. Amazon has done a really good job of "locking down" FireOS.

4. There is probably no need to update from f/w 7.3.1.2 if you only want to make FTB-type mods. See many of @blaacksheep recent posts exrensively explaining/arguing AGAINST updating FireOS prior to7.3.2.2 (Nov 2021).

So reconsider what you need from FTB ... You may be "overthinking" the situation.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
There really isn't much to be gained by updating FireOS from 7.3.1.2 to 7.3.2.1. I have the exact same tablet and f/w version you do and it runs as smoothly as it ever will. I also have a newer tablet with 7.3.2.3 on it and the extra workarounds needed to hide the Amazon apps make it slower and more difficult to use. You've actually got one of the best f/w versions you can have. There is a thread on XDA about dropping that version back to 7.3.1.0 where you can then get temp root. I think it works for tablets manufactured before 11/2019 before you need to pull the back off and short a test point to ground to get to the bootloader.

If I were you I'd keep the f/w version you have and just enjoy. I haven't even tried the downgrade procedure outlined in that thread and I have a tablet that qualifies for the downgrade and temp root. I don't see the advantage of "updating" to the latest version before 7.3.2.2. It only ruins the possibility of rooting the tablet when the time comes.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bibikalka:
Yeah, unfortunately my 7.3.1.2 device seems to be of the later batch where downgrade to 7.3.1.0 is not possible today. I wanted to try 7.3.1.9 which the last "good" version where the ToolBox can do its usual tweaks. It seemed that the devices that had the original BootROM access did not mind being downgraded from 7.3.1.9, so the future exploit (if ever) should not mind the version difference, LOL.

The challenge with the OTA update block is that I don't know of a procedure to reverse that without a factory reset. I'd like to enable OTA, do the manual ROM update via the Amazon file for the respective version I want, and then disable OTA again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Actually, you can re-enable OTA and Automatic Updates in Toolbox. Just make sure you turn off WiFi until you disable updates again because you'll get updated to 7.3.2.4!

The switches are under Modify System Settings. the first two switches control updates.

If you're certain that you want to update (I don't see you gaining ANYTHING), be sure to disable WiFi while you experiment. Good luck my friend.

(That screenshot is from my 7.3.2.3 tablet. That's why OTA updates is not disabled.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

There is a way to disable it via ADB, but it hasn't been tested on FireOS and may not work. However, I suppose its worth a try if you don't mind testing it. In an ADB Shell try running this command:

settings put secure sysui_volume_down_silent 0

After running the command you'll need to reboot the tablet. If you don't mind, could you please let us know how it goes? Best of luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] supernoodles2011:
it doesn't seem to work just accepts the line and then does nothing
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
That's ok. The command has successfully ran, there just isnt any output. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] supernoodles2011:
sadly its still there =[

also i just realised i dont think that button is to do with DND i think its notification volume i've switched to using the app recomended by Jumbo100 and it works perfectly if not better :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] alevinemi:
Just bought a new Fire HD8 Kids Edition, 10th generation.

It arrived with Fire OS 7.3.2.2, which means I can't disable OTA updates (bummer).

Can I still override/disable the default launcher like I used to on his older Fire tablets?

I get these for my special needs kid - the 2 year no-questions-asked warranty is a godsend - he's rough on these things... Which means I have to buy new to get the warranty, and he can't handle the default launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
Hi All,

Just a quick update concerning my fire 7 (2019 release) tablet, I ended up sending the newly purchased 7" android tablet that was virtually a piece of crap and have already returned it for a refund. The great thing about my fire 7 tablet is the fact that I was able to install the aurora application on my fire tablet and I'm now able to install the app's that I had installed previously after using the fire toolbox software so I could utilize the google play store. Now I'm a lot more satisfied with my fire tablet without having to use the fire toolbox software.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
Isn't it a certain app or apps that soft brick it when disabled/removed? Why isn't that known?

Surely Amazon doesn't make if soft brick after a certain number are disabled.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
I have a 2019 HD10 and FTB was great for tweaking it. We just got a 2021 HD10. Is it still worth using FTB on it? Haven't turned it on yet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Anecdotally, some FTB users who use "Diable All" have soft-bricked their devices ... That's aggressive and may have had unintended consequences. Hard to troubleshoot the specific cause when you have to reset your device to recover.

The more cautious approach is to to sectively disable the Amazon apps you don't want in a more controlled manner.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
But there must be a specific app or apps that is causing it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Can't tell if you diable everyhing at once.

Rare occurence, so it may be conflated with another situation, other than just "turning off" apps with simple ADB commands.

Generally not a major concern ... just a cautionary note.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] RealRobD:
I was on the verge of buying an HD 10 plus and then came across this thread.

Should I just forget it or will FTB be updated and have less risk of bricking the tablet? Or is it a matter of just not trying to use Disable All?

I'm really only concerned with removing the adds and being able to use SmartTube.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
A rare anecdotal event related to just a few users ofl "Disable All" , so it's not a major concern to most FTB users ... just a cautionary note about being overly agressive with debloating.

At worst it's a "soft brick" which can undone with a device reset ... Inconvenient, but at least the tablet isn't a paperweight.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] RealRobD:
Thank you for the reply Jumbo, appreciate it :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Alongshot:
Hello there, new toolbox user here with a new Fire 10 2021. Somehow I buggered up the amazon shopping app.

So I did not connect to wifi and got toolbox connected to the Tab, turned off the auto updates, and went through the tutorial, I did the default remove amazon bloat ware, added play store and dif Launcher.

Things looked great but Amazon shopping app was gone. Used toolbox and restored the app, when launching the app, screen just flashed and wouldn't load. I then selected app, and uninstalled updates. Then when opening the app, I get a prompt app no longer supported and sends me to the browser. The app is also not showing in the Amazon app store to update.

Last thing I've done is factory reset ran toolbox again to block updates, and tried the shopping app, and same thing redirect to browser. So decided to sign up here for some help or recommendations, thank you in advance.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
There has to be a certain app or apps that is the problem with disable all, thus that even when not using disable all, it could be a problem if that app or apps is selected. Thus even if you only disable one app, there's a chance you could soft brick.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
If firmware is 7.3.2.1, all FTB options work, correct?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Take a look at the links in my signature. I've got updated apps for the Amazon App Store, Prime Video, Kindle, and others. They were pulled from my other tablet with newer firmware (7.3.2.3). Just uninstall any updates you tried to use from the play store or somewhere else, and install what you need over the top of the pre-installed apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Correct. That's the last version before the workarounds have to be used.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Alongshot:
Ahh, Thank You So Much! That worked like a charm, this is for my father who is disabled due to a bad stroke. He has a older Fire 10" but the amazon shopping app has no longer been supported and it redirects to a browser. The browser is a cluttered mess and he has very bad eyesight due to the stroke so this was the fix, and I worried I messed it up and would have to return it.

I also picked up a older Fire 8" off woot to trade in for a 10", been thinking about a 10" tab for myself but dont care for the fire OS. Im pretty impressed with this toolbox, and this will probably tip me over the edge to get one for my self.

Thanks Again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You'll probably want a pre-2020 model from some other store like Target or the like because they have older stock. If you can get another tablet with pre-7.3.2.2 firmware the Toolbox offers full functionality. 7.3.2.2 and beyond don't work as well with Toolbox but it is improving.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
All good ... As long as you maintain f/w 7.3.2.1, you have the maximum mod options with FTB. Just follow the prescribed FTB install protocols and you'll have no no problems .

Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
We just got the 2021 10" from Amazon a couple weeks ago, and it came with 7.3.2.1 (from Sept 2021).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
Is a soft brick using "remove all" a rare thing? If it's common, considering this thread is almost 4 years old with over 10K replies, how is it not yet known why it happens?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
A soft brick is NOT a common thing. What happens is people with little or no experience dealing with OS's and ADB and unfamiliar with command line tools will get their tablets, connect to their PC's, fight with the getting the ADB drivers installed, and then decide that everything that the manufacturer put on the tablet has to be disabled for it to work well. They then shut down needed services and tools resulting in a "soft brick". Don't do that.

What I tell people that works well is to use the Manual tab under Manage Amazon Apps. Choose the "Simple" option. Click "Disable All". Then re-enable the apps you want from Amazon. Under the simple tab, the "Disable All" option does not disable everything like under the Advanced tab. This is a far less aggressive way to go about disabling Amazon bloat. It has never resulted in a soft brick for me, and if you need something that you disabled, it can be turned back on once again with Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] markbnj:
Dumb (???) question. fire 10+ tablet autoupgraded from 7.3.2.1 to 7.3.2.4

is there a chance that if I wipe off all data (factory reset) it MIght go back from 7.3.2.4 to 7.3,2.1 ??
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Nope! Amazon has seen to it that updates can't be reverted. :cautious: Once an update is installed, your tablet is stuck with it and can only be further updated. You can't go back.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] markbnj:
FYI, just purchased a new fire 10 Plus 64GB on 10-31, received it same day.

It was a 7.3.2.1 but unfortunately I hadn't read this far, and it auto-updated, (sigh)

fwiw, perhaps if you are also purchasing from amazon it may also be the same.. MAKE sure NOT to put in a good WiFi password so your new system does NOT update...

Hope this helps...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] markbnj:
It's a brand new tablet, wondering if I should just return it, and re-order again, and make sure not to let it update... thoughts? I do have prime...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That's why you need to read the first post. It tells you how to get by the Wifi password prompt and to uncheck the box that says "associate this tablet with my Amazon account". If left checked, your Amazon account has your WiFi password in it already by default and it will come pre-loaded on the tablet only requiring the power to be turned on in order to update.

If you do decide to send it back and get another, make sure that you uncheck that box before you order the replacement.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
Thanks. Good advice.

So then (not to beat a dead horse) under Advanced, there's got to be a specific app or apps that is causing the soft brick when disabled.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
How does Amazon get your Wifi password?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
From your computer or laptop. If you leave the Amazon settings in their default state, it will backup that information and other things like contact information and calendar events from your computer to your Amazon account. If you associate the tablet with your account, they will put that information into your new tablet. I dislike this activity and have gone through my Amazon privacy settings and turned all of that off.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I believe they also get the WIFI passwords directly from users when said user supplies it in app, or connects an Amazon branded product to their network.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
My understanding (I could be entirely wrong here, someone please correct me if so) is that the system apps are pretty reliant on each other. Some play a small part, while others may play a much larger part. It just takes disabling/hiding an important system app (and component) to bring the rest of them down with it (leading to a soft brick).

The system apps that are safe to disable/hide aren't well documented in this thread, but perhaps will be in the near future.

If you do encounter a soft brick, it's important to know that 90% of the time you can still use ADB. Meaning, you can restore the last disabled app(s) and restore the system to working order without having to factory reset the tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I would without a doubt try returning it and see if you can get another tablet with a firmware before 7.3.2.2, if you can.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Sorry to hear that. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Indeed. Trying to go back a few firmwares will only cause you nothing but grief.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
NOT a dumb question at all my friend. There are NO dumb questions! A question is a question!

As @blaacksheep mentioned, once an update is installed, there is unfortunately no way to go back (unless your tablet has a method of downgrading... but most fire tablets don't).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Indeed. Retail stores are a good place to get pre 7.3.2.2 firmware tablets. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
So sorry to hear about your father. Hate to see stuff like this happen to good folks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Man, those links are lifesavers! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I was surprised no one else retrieved the updated apps and posted links. 😉 They seem to be "universal" at least to the FireOS 7 tabs.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, you're right. Glad to see everything worked out in the end! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Indeed. We're just lucky to have you around! But yeah, they do seem to be universal, which is good. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok, finally had the time to update the Launcher Invoker flo (attached to this post) to include @davidwilder's method of fixing the "Clear All" problem. Thanks again friend!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
**** NEW LAUNCHER INVOKER .flo script ****

Download, unzip and install @Datastream33's new, improved Launcher Invoker .flo script per post immediately above ... Slick & sleek.

**** NEW LAUNCHER INVOKER .flo script ****
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] markbnj:
FYI-- update. Just got new replacement HD10+/2021 from Amazon Prime.

Yes, it is 7.3.2.1 again.

This time, booted fire toolbox made sure to disable the backup and updates feature from FTB 29.0

Now, I think everything is ok, just went through all the options, and seems to be good, will try and turn on wifi and see what happens next! I pray that it does NOT update...

440 PM EST.. updated. it went ok, after running ftb. didnt update, installed microsoft launcher..

<b>can someone explain why my tablet under device options the change device name is disabled? It still show my fire (greyed out) </b>

Also: a few more questions.

* since I didn't go to the amazon website, does that mean that the kindle app wont see a name, or will the amazon page let me change it there?

* I tried to use the google services manager to add an account and

<b>UPDATE: I THINK i see what happened, </b>I hadn't installed the SYNC services and got a blank screen

After enabling that and restarting the FTB, it did let me add another user to the tablet.

thanks again for this great tool

Now, is there a chance I can successfully make adb see the /etc filesystm as read.write so I can update the /etc/hosts file???

that would be fantabulous!!!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Good deal! BTW, check for updates on FTB v29.0. We're up to v29.2 now!

😉(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I tried out the new flo file. It works great! Thanks guys!!😄 I seemed to have run up against the limit of flo's in the free version of Automate, and had to disable the flo I was using to get rid of lockscreen ads. Instead I ran the updated lockscreen removal tool in Toolbox 29.2.

Good work and hat's off to both of you for your work. 👏
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slickone_:
Is there a list of which are/aren't a system app (or, "important system app (and component)", as you say)?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Google and Amazon working together !? ... Maybe ? ... Fire tablets?

Report: Google will graciously let Android OEMs build Amazon Fire devices

Pressure from EU regulators makes Google accept Android forks, at least for TVs.

arstechnica.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
There is a spreadsheet by Michael Bakshi that includes a few system apps and if they're safe or not to remove. However, the spreadsheet was created for FireOS 5.6.0.0, so it may not be 100% accurate for other firmwares. There are probably other lists out there, but there isn't one from this thread as far as I'm aware.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Crazy world. Was reading about that the other day. Unfortunately, I don't think this will affect Fire Tablets, and Google/Amazon's relationship in that area.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Sweet! So happy to hear that, my friend. Of course, it's all thanks to @davidwilder! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FTB community at its best!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
In order to make changes to the hosts file, you'd need to mount System as RW (read-write). This unfortunately requires root access. Which i believe isn't possible right now. So sorry, my friend. However, If you're looking to block ads app-wide... try changing the DNS Resolver (Modify System Settings > Networking tab) to Adguard.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Indeed. Love this community! :)