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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
IDK, but I think that Google may have recently changed how Google Contacts/Contacts Sync function , which may affect FTB installs on Google Play.

In May, 2023 Google changed how Google Contacts synced with Google accounts on Android :

New Google Contacts sync behavior is both a blessing and a curse

Google Contacts will wipe your saved contacts from a phone if you turn off sync

www.androidpolice.com

Contacts synced with your Google account may suddenly disappear from your Android phone, but it's reversible

Google is making a somewhat significant change to how contacts are synced across Android devices, causing them to disappear.

www.xda-developers.com

Coincidentally (?) Google removed Contrats Sync (and Calender Sync) from Google Play Store.

I suspect that Contacts Sync app function may have been integrated into Google Play Services infrasttucure and may no longer be needed as a separate app. That's fine for Google/Android (which ensures compatability) but I'm not sure how this affects Fire tablet installs.

It looks like FireOS 7.2.x still works with with Contacts Sync on a legacy basis.

But I'm not sure what's happening with FireOS 8.3.x

Google Contacts app compatability with FireOS 8.3.x has always been problematic, especially on Fire Max 11 , but may have improved with f/w 8.3.2.0 and later.

It appears that the only reliable way to sync Google Contacts is to use the Google Contacts web app.

Also (abhorently to some/many) possible to sync Google Contacts linking through Amazon Contacts/Email apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] L.F.:
Thanks for your advice. I shall try the ideas next time I'm abroad at an airport!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bisonator:
Hi Jumbo

Thanks for your reponse. Hope you're enjoying your weekend!

Yes, I had trouble when I first modded my Fire Max 11 last year.

I ended up manually installing Google apks for the contacts (and calendar) sync. I did get it working fine in the end.

I'll try to remember what I did back then to get it working. At this point though, I can't even remember from where I would have downloaded the apks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Apkmirror.com is usually a good source for Google apk's. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bisonator:
That rings a bell from last time. Thanks! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Come to think of it, I've been tinkering with Automate on FireOS 5 and it keeps complaining about the accessibility service being disabled even through it's "enabled" in the accessibility settings. Weird.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
That's a pretty awesome resume though! ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipF8_2010:
Semi on topic:

I read here about the Nova Launcher and recently tried it on my Pixel 7a, safe to say I'm very happy with it and allowed me to customize as much as I wanted.

Think I'll use Nova Launcher on my Fire tablet, too.

Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pyroficy:
Hello,

I have a Fire HD10 (11th Gen) and originally used Fire Toolbox to replace the FireOS with Nova in Dec 2021.

Recently my HD10 started running slowly so I thought Id just factory reset it(regretfully) and go through the process of replacing the the OS with Nova again. I cant seem to get rid of FireOS anymore, Nova always shows up as an active App and whenever I press back a couple times I end up on FireOS homepage.

In the past I could never even tell Automate was running and FireOS never reared its head, now Automate shows up in my notification section all the time and Im constantly getting dumped on the FireOS homepage.

Is it still possible to hide the FireOS page or did something change?

Sorry if this has been explained in the past, I did try and look for the solution.

Thanks in advance.

(Ive tried all 3 install options for Nova on Fire Toolbox and followed all the instructions when setting up from the software(FTB & Automate) and firetoolbox.org)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI

FireOS 8.3.2.3 source code available for review on Amazon Customer Service site:

Source Code Notice for Kindle E-Readers and Fire Tablets - Amazon Customer Service

In accordance with certain free and open source software licenses, Amazon is pleased to make available to you for download an archive file of machine readable source code (

www.amazon.com

f/w 8.3.2.3 not yet available for manual download.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sensboston:
I received a replacement for my recently "deceased" Fire HD 10 (11th gen) today (luckily the "dead" one came with a 1 year limited warranty expiring May 4th), ran it with the latest version of Fire Toolbox V34.2, everything is great (even with the trick with replacing the launcher using Automate) except for one thing :(

I've used Weawow app for my favorite "Weather and Clock" widget (this widget is the closest approximation to the standard "Weather & Clock" widget for Samsung devices) and it worked perfectly on previous FireOS'es hacked with Fire Toolbox. Now when I press "Create widget" button in the app, it's terminating and no widget created. I'm still able to add some "static" widgets but checked a few apps with "create widget" function and all of 'em failed.

So, my question is: is it possible to fix it somehow, or may be you can recommend me a similar widget for Fire HD 10 (check my screenshot)? Please DO NOT recommend widgets with different layout/fonts/transparency etc.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You never mentioned what launcher you chose when using the Custom Navbar Button method. I use Weawow and can report that it works with Nova 6 and Nova 7 on an HD8 (2020) running F/W v7.3.2.7 with Custom Navbar Button.

It also works on an HD10 (2020) with Nova running F/W v7.3.1.2 and just using Launcher Replacement method.

That said, it does work a little wonky. I long press an empty spot on the screen until the launcher options come up. then select my Weawow widget in the drawer at the bottom. Configuration done here doesn't stick so you just drag it to where you want it on the screen. Then long press the widget, select "resize", and size it to your liking. Long press the widget again and choose "Configure". Configure it to your liking and exit.

It works but just configures weird. You have to drag the widget to the screen where you want it. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sensboston:
@blaacksheep, I'm using Nova Launcher Prime 7.0.58 but my FireOS v7.3.2.9 (there is nothing I can do - replacement device came with that version).

Thanks for the advice: after "playing" with WeaWow I've finally added widget to my home (making everything very same on both my Fire HD 10)

But here is another issue: Google Chrome browser option to add page to the home screen is missing :( I do have a few home-brew smart home gadgets with built-in web pages for control & configuration (on screenshot "X10" & "Smart blind remote") but can't add 'em :( Do you know how to fix?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FireOS with Fire Launcher do not natively support shortcuts or widgets.

But some third -party launchers (like Nova Launcher) can support widgets , but still not shortcuts.

You're successfully using widgets now with Nova Launcher.

To workaround shortcut deficiency, try using a shortcut/widget maker app to generate a "pseudo-widget" from a webpage address ... basically a shortcut "re-skinned" as a widget.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sensboston:
A year ago everything worked perfectly, as on "native" Android, and I'm still able to create webpage shortcuts on home screen from Google Chrome on my another Fire HD 10 (11th gen but about 3 yo, of course hacked by FTB).

BTW, thanks for advice! Will use this workaround if I can't find a proper solution for the damn Chrome.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, widget support is just lacking in FireOS. It may have worked on older firmware versions, but Amazon continues to block things that don't support your tablet as an Amazon shopping device!

Your only option is to do what Jumbo100 said and try a shortcut/widget maker app to create what you need. Hopefully, you are successful. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
One of of the FireOS shortcomings subsequent to f/w 7.3.2.2. None of the usual web browsers used on Nova Launcher can create shortcuts to Fire tablet homepages with recent f/w. Not really a specific Chrome browser problem per se.

Shortcut Maker for Android (by dev Rushikesh Kamewar) has been vetted by the Community as a workable solution, but there may be other viable apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sensboston:
Thank you guys, Shortcut Maker did the trick. The only one cons: my gadgets webpages designed as a web apps but now they are open as a regular web pages inside Chrome.

Here is a screenshot from new device:

So, let me summarize (correct me if I'm wrong): with the old firmware (sorry, I don't know the last good FW version #) FTB was able to completely change Fire HD default launcher but this is impossible (yet) with the latest versions of the Fire OS; FireLauncher remains as a default launcher but FTB uses some tricks (like an 'Automation' app) to execute custom launcher(s).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sensboston:
Oh, I forgot to ask one more question (sorry!) ;) - could you please tell me, how to change substituted system navigation button Home icon/image (I prefer a "standard" one, larger dot)? And, probably, the distance between buttons: there was a dialog from some Android app during FTB tool execution but I can't find this app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Correct.

Prior to f/w 7.3.2.2 (Nov/2021), FireOS was freely amenable to ADB manipulation . Most FireOS/Amazon apps (especiialy OTA Updates and Fire Launcher) could be disabled and/or replaced. Post-f/w 7.3.2.2, many FireOS/Amazon apps become "system protected" and could not be disabled, hence the FTB "workaround" processes, using Automate et al. Fire Launcher remains the active default app launcher but the FTB custom launcher "hacks" redirect calls to Home Button (via Automate) to an alternative app launcher. Quite ingenious , but requires precious system resources.

May be possible to use Shortcut Maker tools to generate widgets from some of the "app activities"/in-app subprocess, if they are not hidden.

eg. Making a "Compose" widget from Gmail app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] captainrizal:
Hello all, there are so many pages in this thread, that it is difficult to find the latest toolkit to change Fire HD 10 (11th Gen) to Android. please help to find the toolkit for windows 11. Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
First two posts have everything you need.

Be aware "the toolkit" will not magically transform your HD10 to native Android. It can improve the user experience (including installing the all important Google Play Store), but in the end you will still have an Amazon gizmo built on an heavily customized, aging version of Android with all its inherent limitations. Look for another device if you want a native Android experience.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] parataxis:
I have this strange issue.. My screen flashes black and goes to the lockscreen out of nowhere, and it seems random to me. (I use 7.3.2.9 stock build BTW..) If I turn the Automate script off, it works fine, but the Launcher script for it seems to cause the problem currently.. I have tried nearly everything to remedy the issue... including resetting the device to factory defaults to no avails.. Just curious if anyone has encountered this issue, and perhaps some suggestions.. I am going to try turning the lockscreen off via the toolkit, might update what happens with that soon.

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Strange indeed.

Well, you could disable the lock screen completely (like I do), but that might not solve the underlying problem.

You could disable the flow for the Custom Navbar Button and use Toolbox to re-import the flow. Maybe there's something corrupt in the flow.

You said that you you tried a factory reset which should have replaced Automate and any flows included. I presume you still had the same problem after the factory reset.

That leads me to think that it's something else you either disabled or you installed some app that interferes with the process. If you just did a factory reset, I presume you haven't got much data stored on the device yet and another factory reset would be acceptable. This time, don't disable anything under Manage Amazon Apps yet. Also, only run the Custom Launcher tool and set it up as you like it. Then reboot the tablet to see if the problem has reoccurred, or if it's not present yet. Then go through your customizations one or two at a time and recheck frequently to see when the launcher flow fails. That will hopefully lead you to the culprit.

Good luck. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lcc-marc:
Is it possible to get update of Disney+ in ToolBox?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] corporal_hades:
Maybe add the working version of YT Kids as well?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Disney+ hybrid app on FTB has periodic problems syncing with the the Disney servers, but is usually fixed with latest FTB micropatch. For more consistent service, suggest installing Disney+ from Amazon AppaStore or accessing through Disney+ web app. Do not install app from Play Store or by sideloading.

YouTube Kids should install from Play Store and does not require a FTB hydrid app. May be be incompatible with earlier FireOS 8.3.1.x f/w . If that is an iisue, a vetted solution from the Community is to sideload older version; try YouTube Kids V 6.37.5 (October, 2021) .
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] parataxis:
Yes, I restored it but had backup folders for my ebooks and settings, I have turned off background services with Developer Options, but it wasn't working then either. I think I figured it out, and I had to adjust the Automate Invoker Script to add an app decision to let it allow the Amazon Fire Launcher to appear to the foreground, only to be put back to the background ultimately.. I also believe the app 'Ram Calc' on Play Store is the culprit, since it is a deep memory cleaner in the background. It has been working for some time now without.

Thank you for the assistance tho, mucho gracias!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I knew there was more to it than it just not working. When you get into heavy tweaking with Toolkit, ADB, and developer options, unexpected results often occur. In order to isolate things, you have to do things one at a time and measure the results.

I'm glad you have it working (or at least know what's causing the problem) now. Keep us informed and let us know if you get stuck.

Happy modding!! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lcc-marc:
I am on newest version of FTB, how can i verrify i have the correct version?

I only added amazon video account, have only google account

FTB would be great if its consistent
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Current installed FTB indicated on FTB home screen, uppeer left.

Current micropatched version is FTB v 34.2

Check for micropatches from FTB Settings (Gear icon, upper right) , opening "About" and select "Check for Update". Set "Check for Updates" in Settings for auto-notification of new FTB versions and micropatches.

For consistent service, Disney+ app should only be installed from Amazon AppStore, as app has been coded specifically for the Amazon ecosystem. Disney+ is currently not listed on Play Store as Play Stores version is incompatible with Fire tablets.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lcc-marc:
To get amazon store working i need to get my amz account registered on the fire.

Now its not registrated an i dont see it in my amazon devices on homepage.

Will this change wenn ich use amazon app store?

I am on 33.1 tried update button in APP no updates availabe. 🙈Will download it manually in evening when i am next to my fire
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lcc-marc:
I am now on latest FTB

Uninstalled Disney reinstalled via Hybrid apps, still get message there is a new version.

Is there a way to get the apk manually?

something like apk mirror for amazon?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] corporal_hades:
Yeah, that's all well and good, I was just suggesting it be added along with Disney+ and Netflix that are provided. The 3 Max 11's I have are on 8.3.1.5 and GBoard and YT Kids will not install from the PS and complain about GPS being missing or not compatible. But sideloading GBoard does work as long as it's not updated by the PS whereas YT Kids doesn't work unless its sideloading the version you mentioned in your response above and also not letting PS update it. I imagine that the GPS issue isn't fixed until after 8.3.1.9 which gimps the tablets.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
The FTB hydrid hybrid apps of Disney+ and Netflix were reworked from the AppStore apps (as supported by the original devs); out of luck with YTKids (and most of the other Google apps) as there is no AppStore variant supported by Google.

You're right about about the much improved Google Play compatibility with the Google-branded apps (specifically YTKids) with f/w 8.3.2.0 and later, but you lose the ability to make easy ADB mods. Your choice.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
@Datastream33 may not have updated the hybrid apps code yet for new versions ... never-ending "housekeeping" maintenance. Keep checking for new FTB micro-patches.

The FTB hybrid apps are exclusive to FTB and are not found (or updated) anywhere else.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI

Check your Google Search preferences for unintended changes.

Check your Google Search preferences if you made any changes in the last 2 weeks

Oops, it happened again. Google experienced technical difficulties that might just make you a little mad

www.androidpolice.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thelanlord:
I appreciate all The work you and blaacksheep do to update and Maintain Firetool box and all related projects!

I used the toolbox first time on a brand new Fire Max 11 back in November.

It stayed stable and worked beutifully through all the tweaking and mods I did to it

all the way untill a week ago when I was playin with some core functionality.

so I pull down the latest version of toolbox and the micropatch.

Boy I really like the changes you have made.

I tried the Rethink method this time

Previously I went with the metered connection OTA restriction

I got an update that threw up the locks screen adds back on within 2 hrs of completion.

So today I am reading up on the details of the Rethink method

I figure the blocklist was incorrect because the toolbox failed during the rethink install and Rethink was unable to download the necsarry files using the install on the TAB

I also was wondering about the automate install and import

It used to install under the Navigation bar config setting tab in toolbox

now thate tab has changed

I never have gotten full functionality out of the navigation or quick setting tile mod stuff and end up with many unused automate tiles wich i do not know how 2 remove

So to bring my inquiry to a specific the specific info I seek:

Can you direct me to The info on navbar and custom tile usage

and

How to properly setup Rethink?

ALSO:

After I was finished with the initial firetoolbox work;

I registerd the tab back to my Amazon account because I got tired of everything giving me a register your tablet prompt and having a large message on my desktop

I know I am doing somthing incorrectly and would love your help to Iron this out

Thank you so much for your Time
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thelanlord:
I have found the rethink information and have everything configured and operating properly

I just need help with the navigation and system tiles config information

and weather or not The device needs to be registered after the fire toolbox work is completed

Thanks Again

:cool:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
First off, @Datastream33 does all the work on Toolbox. I'm just a regular user that helps out in the forums and runs some test builds to keep things moving along. :)

The subtool to modify your Navbar and Status bar is located in Modify System Settings > System UI tab > System UI Customizer. When you first open it, it will present your current Quick Setting tiles configuration. You can modify the order and which icons appear in the pull-down screen of your tablet. The second tab is the Navbar Modifier. With it you can modify the order and spacing of your navigation keys at the bottom of your tablet. You can also customize the icons of your navbar with it.

I wrote a short tutorial on RethinkDNS configuration and included it in the first link in my signature (or here). I guess you've already figured it out, but there is no blocklist included with it. You just need to block the 4 indicated apps from internet access.

The message to register your tablet is part of the default Amazon launcher. You can replace the launcher with Nova or any other using the Custom Launcher tool. (Highly recommended!) There is no problem with registering your tablet with Amazon. In fact it's required if you want to use any of Amazon's services including Amazon Appstore, Kindle, Prime Video, and Shop Amazon.

I hope that helps. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pyroficy:
Anyone?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
While a longtime Nova user, I do not use it on contemporary Amazon devices given it runs in parallel with the FireOS native launcher (generally can not be disabled), needs another background tool (typically Automate) to override the native launcher and has limited functionality on FireOS. The latter is prone to failure as you are now experiencing.

Note: Nova does not replace FireOS; it is an alternative to "Home Pages" which is Amazon's native launcher.

Others may be able to assist as I do not have first hand knowledge with the hoop jumping needed to get everything running smoothly on different devices with varying versions of FireOS. Responses may be slow as a number of things can go wrong which are difficult to detect and remedy without direct access to your device. Takes a fair bit of time/effort for the responding party; patience is a virtue :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thelanlord:
For me the when opening the system UI customer brings me to a page that's blank and there are no navkey's listed on either side until I click on reset default tiles then once I move them all and and position them up or down if I wish to when I click apply it just locks up with a green spinning wheel it did the same thing in previous versions I'm using the fire tab 11 Max on the new version 3.4 with the patch installed there is no second tab any longer and I remember on the previous version when I would open the second tab and try to use it it would install automate and allow me to import flow. That option is not even available now to me. Do you have any ideas on this and how can I get a little more information about the functionality of that sub tool?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pyroficy:
Thanks for the response, I believe in the past I did disable FireOS on an earlier version of FTB, that option is no longer showing on FTB. I even went back and found the original youtube guide I used to setup my Fire.

I guess its no longer possible if the option is missing which sucks because I probably wont use the Fire ever again, good thing I won it on a raffle lol