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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
The "reconnecting error" message is persistent. Good catch that it's a signal that it's OK to turn on Wi-Fi. Also, OBNB 2.06 does work. Click any "action" and "Launch other application" appears. However, on initial installation of OBNB the dev left a message that if users install it he will capture all data except passwords. I just sent him an email asking if he was serious. If so, I think we need another solution.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Can you explain how you're using Datastream's Custom Navigation Button with a couple of modifications?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Confirms numerous earlier posts that YouTube Kids is incompatible with Fire OS 8.

YouTube Kids has not been able to install on Child's account on Fire tablets since early 2017 Fire OS updates.

Various "forks" of YouTube Kids app are available on Amazon Appstore but are for-pay and/or of questionable quality.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nookin:
I use my card as a portable storage to move contents from my PC to my tablet.

I will try reformatting it. It is a 32GB card so it won't hurt too much to recopy everything.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nookin:
It is not a notification. It is a full-screen, in-your-face pop-up that preempts any App that I was using. Very annoying.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I believe what I did was install a different icon pack, didn't like it, changed it back again. I don't remember which icon layout I chose, default or generic Android. Somewhere along the line I had to reset the home button via ADB command because my home button ceased functioning, and then I had to run SetEdit in order to remap the button to the new mapping. I also ran Navbar Apps in order to set a black background color on the Navbar which also required another run of SetEdit to once again remap the home button back to the Custom button that was set by Custom Navbar Button.

It's really complicated the way I did it, and I'm sure it could be condensed into a few short modifications. I was still exploring what could be done. Now that it's mostly the way I want it, I leave it alone. LOL
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Raymond2000:
looking for help. i have a 2020 fire hd8 (kids) in fact i have 2. when we first got them i wanted to install youtube kids on them for the kids account and grant access to them through parental controls but it didnt work so i only ever tried on 1. now they are well outside of warranty and the kids are getting to the point that they want more.... so i used the tool box on the first one and no problems, everthying is great. tried on the 2nd and it has been updated to 7.3.2.4...oooops. now i have 1 happy kid and the other not so much. I would like the launcher on it so my wifes recommendations dont bleed through onto the kids tablet but since its updated im stuck. is there or would there be a way to back up the one that is working the way i want it and restore it on the 2nd? or even flash the 2nd with the info of the first... or will i have to resort to rooting it which i didnt want to do.

i didi try to save the back up from the first and apply it to the second through the toolbox but it didnt do anything that i can tell.

also if there is no hope...does anyone have a good set of directions to root it or site with detailed instructions. very novice tinkerer.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but no root exploit for Fire HD8 (2020) seems to exist yet. Amazon has locked out OS rollbacks, so you can't go back on your 7.3.2.4 tablet. You can't flash a new ROM without unlocking the bootloader and you can't unlock the bootloader without an exploit. The best you can do is use Toolbox to install another launcher, but that is not without a few unfixable issues itself. Do the best you can with Toolbox until either another tablet deal comes along or a root exploit is found.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chukacaa:
It seems so.

At the end, I showed my 4 years old daugther how to use the Website version and that will do for the time been.

Thx!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chetqwerty:
Digging this back up to post a solution for those interested. You need to install the updated 'Shop Amazon' (Amazon official tablet version NOT Google Play version) to align the universe once again. Very simply, Amazon detected that v22.xxx was just too old and required v24.xxx. Nothing sinister, (not that big tech is anything other than sinister) just a forced update for "improvements" and "enhancements". Google Play can't update the Shop Amazon app. If it did try to update the Amazon version then Google likely created another icon with a parallel installation which it did in my case. Uninstall that one and clear the data for the official Shop Amazon app before you update with the attached file. Make sure you check the file yourselves. I ran it through virustotal and came back clean for me.

Here's the apk I found, it did the trick for me. Maybe @datastream33 can incorporate into the Toolbox for easy updates.

Well, I attached the file but it didn't show up. Bing or Duckduckgo this file name. Don't use google it won't show any results.

amazon-for-tablets-24-11-0-800-1842227010.apk
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Thanks @chetqwerty for your solution and the nuanced observation/explanation to the Amazon for Tablet app problem. I never realized that Amazon releases different Amazon APKs for Fire tablets and Google Play Store. It's interesting that for this update (and I suspect in future updates) that the Amazon can effectively detect and disable older versions of it's own "branded" software.

As you and other members of the FTB community have noted, the solution is to:

1. Download .apk form an "Amazon-specific" archive , or

2. Copy updated .apk from another Fire tablet which has OTA enabled.

You're right ... this is not "sinister", but it is one more "convenient" way for Amazon to further thwart Fire tablet mods.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mpnuttall:
Many thanks for your response here. Ultimately, I decided that this was more hassle than it was worth and so returned the Fire tablet and bought a cheap stock Android tablet for the same money. Similar spec and so far so good. Plus the added bonus of being able to run Family Link on it.

Thanks again, Mark
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Which tablet? And a link would be nice, also. Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, what did you get? A link to the tablet would be appreciated.

By the way, I'm Jim, not Mark. (unless you were referring to yourself.) ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mpnuttall:
I went with this: Deal: 8 Inch Kids Tablet, 1920 x 1200 IPS FHD, Parental Control, Android 10 Tablet for Kids, 2GB RAM, 32GB ROM, Dual Camera with Kid-proof Case (Blue) https://amzn.eu/eM93CxX Took all the preinstalled 'kids' apps off and replaced with Family Link. The case seems comparable to the Fire one - nice and chunky and 'foamy'. It's not super fast (2gb), but not notably slower than the Fire - although all the bloatware on that slowed it down of course, so hard to do a direct comparison.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mpnuttall:
I was indeed referring to myself 🙂 Link above 👍
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
LOL Yeah.

Here's the same thing on the U.S. site for those of us across the pond:

U.S. Link
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] redjedi182:
many thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] theredcrosss:
Hello, I've got a collection of old Fire 7's at work and I'd set a dozen up last year with FT27, but I can't seem to install anything under 29. I see that it's been an issue in the last couple months and that I could download the files on my desktop and transfer them over, except I'm not sure where to find the Google Services and Microsoft Launcher files. Are they posted somewhere or is there a reliable source I should be looking at?

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Recent updated piece from androidpolice.com referencing the correct "mix & match" sets of Google Play Services APKs for all the Fire tablet portfolio. Be sure to follow the specific sequence of installing the GPS apks if you are sideloading manually. apkmirror.com is generally a "reliable" APK archive.

How to install the Google Play Store on every Amazon Fire tablet

Get the apps you want on your brand-new device

www.androidpolice.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You should check for updates to FTB 29. There are a couple micropatches that need to be applied and then delete the contents of the bin\Google Services\ folder within Toolbox. It should then download the correct apps for your tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Hi @blaacksheep

Does @Datastream33 keep an updated Release Notes/log of updates to FTB ? It's hard to keep up with him at times 😀
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DyldoBaggins:
@Datastream33 @Jumbo100 @blaacksheep Hi guys, this is my first post here.

I've read a lot of your guys' posts here, and you 3 seem to be very active and helpful to everyone here asking questions. So with that in mind, I've been thinking about a place where the community can go to source official Amazon System Apps.

Since the recent Shop Amazon issues, I'm wondering if you guys (and others) can collaborate together to upload full backups of all the apk files from newer versions of FireOS that your specific tablet has.

Whether it be a website, a Shared Google Drive, or possibly built-into a future FTB version, the community could access it, for example, to update or fix their outdated Shop Amazon, Amazon Music, Prime Video apps etc, from a FireOS version that is higher than their current version. This would stop people having to look all over random websites to find specific versions of single apps, and would act as a hub to access multiple versions of all apps in one place.

A great start to this would be help from @blaacksheep, which from recent posts appears to have tablets running FireOS 7.3.1.2 and FireOS 7.3.2.3, and anyone with newer or the latest version of FireOS on their tablet could also contribute to this.

This is just an idea that came to mind which I feel would make these possible future issues much easier for the community to handle. Also, for whatever reason the Amazon app store never shows any updates available on my Fire HD 8 2020, not sure if this is an issue after using the FTB, but it would also solve this issue and allow people to continuously update all their stock apps without the need of Amazon's app store, so that's a huge win.

P.s. I'm actually hoping someone can upload a Prime Video apk rip from a FireOS version above 7.3.1.6, which is my current verison, my Prime Video app (FireTablet.283.39701) doesn't look very nice lol.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

Seems like a good idea. The only thing that concerns me is I'm not certain that user data (username/password) is not stored in the .apk file. It seems okay because I monitored my account for several days after posting my Shop Amazon app and no new devices ever showed up in my account, but I'm gonna watch! Anyway, here's Prime Video from my 7.3.2.3 tablet. It's a newer version than the one on my 7.3.1.2 tablet, so it updated via OTA at some point.

PrimeVideoUpdate.apk pulled Sept 7, 2022
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DyldoBaggins:
.apk files are only the installation packages, so no user data is stored with them as far as I'm aware, so this should be a safe and effective method (although using virustotal for apks is recommended to all) of sharing updates across this community.

Speaking of which, thank you for the updated Prime Video apk! It now looks much better on my Fire HD 8:)

I hope you, any others interested, and @Datastream33 can discuss this idea, I think it would be an excellent addition in FTB, maybe it could be added to the Manage Amazon Apps menu as a sub-menu called "Amazon App Updater" and maybe have it as a beta feature lol.

Thanks again @blaacksheep for the Prime Video apk, and all the help you provide to people here(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm glad it works okay. Thanks for mentioning @Datastream33 here because it's his project and he should have ultimate say in this. I've just posted a couple of links to apps so I don't think that's a problem.

Anyway, let's wait to hear from Datastream to see what he thinks of that idea. :cowboy:

BTW, my 7.3.2.3 tablet that I pulled that from is also an HD8!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipF8_2010:
I just found out that to clear all apps running, I have to scroll to the far left and then there's the option to "clear all" apps.

Why isn't it below the app?

Or is there a way to switch it to the bottom?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chetqwerty:
apparently my Mom and Dad were glass blowers ..... 😅

@Blacksheep - no, extraacting apk's never includes user data.

And dang it why can't I attach files anymore???

https://xdaforums.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox-v28-9.3889604/post-87401085
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JackB443:
Thanks you so mich mich for the app guys. I just has one question how do you fix the button that takes you back to the main screen it doent do it any mores. Thanks you
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JackB443:
This idea wold be good one but woldnt amazon get mad abut us copyimg and share ing their apps without amazon permissions?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Aymon_star:
Google Play No longer Works on Fire 7 2022

Google play stoped working on my fire 7 12th gen after fireos update 8.3.1.2

Is there a workaround or a fix

It just crashes after 2 secs on Google play logo
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yup!

The main problem is that you allow automatic updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipF8_2010:
Ordered a tempered screen protector and case from AliExpress, took like 2 weeks and was well worth it. Fire HD 8 now feels "premium." Awesome.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Aymon_star:
it updated without my nolage and i did not use fire tool unt'ill yesterday got it all working but playstore it crashes constantly is there a fix
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Aymon_star:
or will there be a fix on the way ? i have notised that nobody really seems to know of the problem as iv been reaserching on a fix but nobody seems to find one/wright about one
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Eiion:
Nobody knows. If we knew, chances are we already had a fix available.

Also, if you want to add information before other people's reply, please use the edit button instead of double posting.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Aymon_star:
im sorry when i posted it i didnt see it so i tried reposting it again im new to wrighting on xda

i have a fealing its to do with play services not play store as the play services does not work/ allow me to add an account tho it loadid ones but with a wifi error
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Nice Catch @Eiion ! … anything to keep away from total OTA updates!

I think you may have uncovered another situation of “broken updates” of Amazon-branded apps, similar to the Amazon Shopping/Amazon for Tablet problem earlier this Summer.

It appears that Amazon is now updating its own apps so that they will be compatible only with Fire tablets updated OTA.

Amazon apps updated via “Google Play sphere-of-influence” sources (including Google Play Store (obviously), apkmirror and apkpure) are not “pure” Amazon but have been filtered with “Play Certified” and are malfunctioning.

I suspect that is also now the case with Prime Video and maybe even Amazon Appstore itself.

Your workaround is simple and straightforward as it doesn't trigger a wholesale OTA update.

Another solution suggested was to source Amazon app apk updates from reputable generic Android APK archives such as uptodown.com (which is based in Spain). This is the source of the Amazon for Tablet “fix” and is independent from Google influence.

Another alternative was to copy the affected Amazon apks from a current Fire tablet updated OTA. This may be appropriate if you own another Fire tablet which is OTA current. ... otherwise, I would HIGHLY discourage FTB community members from posting and using posted updated apks on this thread … IMO that’s too much and like old-time “Napster” file sharing!

As always , the choice is yours.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Aymon_star:
I think I found something Google Play Services will open when no wifi found -offcose there's still the error of no wifi no sign in but yet I still found something strange I have a feeling that this error is getting cased by something having a connection to a wifi signal is there an app / feature they have added to stop play services when connected to a network? ah and also no play store will still crash even without wifi
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] flaviocc:
Guys , what is the last Alexa version from Amazon App Store?

Tks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Hey @flaviocc How are things in Brazil ?

Current Amazon Alexa:

per Google Play Store: verrsion 2.2.475954.0 dated August 30, 2022

per Amazon Appstore: ASIN: B00P03D4D2 dated September 7, 2022
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] golfgirl8350:
Hi. I'm wondering if there is a fix for voice typing not working in Gboard on Fire HD8+? I've read through earlier posts that suggest Amazon has blocked that function with the latest OTA update. I am working on a friend's tablet that has the latest OS and would love some help.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ivorin:
The only solution I have found so far, at least on a 7.3.2.1 Fire HD 10, is to install and use the Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard instead of GBoard.

Ironically, SwiftKey itself seems to use the Google speech-to-text engine. So it's a mystery why GBoard's own speech-to-text is inoperative on most (all?) Fire tablets.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] flaviocc:
Hi Jumbo, everything alright here! Tks for ask.

My Alexa app is very strange. I uninstalled all the updates to see what version I will get on the Amazon store, but shows to me that I have no updates and just have updates trough google play store. I’m running the last version per google play store.

I’m asking bcs want to try and see if I can change the Alexa’s language since the actual version don’t load the languages…
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] golfgirl8350:
That's exactly what I did. Great minds...!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
We discussed earlier that Fire tablet support PO-BR, but we were looking at the setup from an English POV. Have you tried setting Fire tablet using PO-BR as the DEFAULT language ? Also may also have to download PO-BR speech "voice".
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] darbNator:
To update the prime video and kindle apps on my kindle I have had to isolate the Amazon Tablet specific apks and manually install them to update the Amazon specific apps. The app versions have a prefix that identifies it as an Amazon Tablet specific app. For the Kindle app it is 14.59.100(version) for Prime Video I believe it is FireTablet.(version).

These are the only two apps I have dug into and tried to update manually. My current Prime Video version is FireTablet.317.7201 and Kindle is 14.59.100(1.3.261520.0). This kindle version is out of date but I've not found the apk for it online yet. We may need to start an archive of these somewhere if this is the route Amazon has decided to go.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] flaviocc:
Yes, I tried..

If I setup to pt-br language many functions as show mode gone. Amazon is totally a mess, since Alexa speaks Portuguese in all my echo devices. And Amazon is officially here in Brazil.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Gets back to the original problem of how Amazon differentiates Fire tablet functions by geographic region. No obvious solution yet.

Hopefully, when Fire tablets officially rollout in Brazil you can re-register your tablet with Amazon Brazil and get everything working in PO-BR ... Including Alexa.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] flaviocc:
Yes for sure. I’m hoping for it.

Do you have the Alexa fire os apk to share ?

I want to see if have any difference.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
I think Alexa is now a "protected" app under Fire OS on Fire tablets and is not accessible. Not available on Android APK archives either. Generally not a great idea to copy and share personal copies of Amazon apks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] flaviocc:
Ok. Tks Jumbo.

I’m asking bcs others apks was shared here and was wondering the same with Alexa apk.

Really don’t know why when I try to update trough Amazon store no updates appears.

Now I’m running the last version from Google play store.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] BroKeni:
Hi all,

I have a question with the Fire HD 8 plus, sadly it was bought with the amazon checkbox to link the account with the tablet.

The user only had to boot it and select the wifi and he is using it.

He went to settings and the tablet came with FireOS 7.3.2.2 and it automatically downloaded FireOS 7.3.2.4 (says something about the tablet will update next time the battery is high)

Sadly the tutorial on the first page does not explain what can be done if the user already checked the checkbox in amazon when he bought and he connected to wifi after that.

He might not care about ads, automatic updates, or amazon apps......but he is interested in google play and nova launcher. Is that something that still can be done? and if it can be done, should he factory reset the tablet to remove all his account? or what steps should be done for a tablet that will be on 7.3.2.4, he bought with the checkbox checked on amazon, and has his account linked.

anyone knows? thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

If the tablet already came with 7.3.2.2, then it's already past the point where we can make everything in Toolbox work with it. Much has been done to mitigate the new OS updates though, so all is not lost. You said "new" but you didn't say if it was a 2022 (12th gen) tablet. If it is, you will also have additional problems getting Google Services to work properly with it. 2022 tablets have FireOS 8 on them and Toolbox was written primarily for FireOS 7. Amazon and Google are deep in a feud, so they don't play well together. You just have to look back a few pages to see all the problems people with 2022 tablets are having with Google to get an idea.

If the tablet hasn't been rebooted yet, and you want to keep the oldest firmware possible on it, you can read my guide (in my signature) and install DNS66, delete the cache and program files of the two OTA system apps, and follow a regimen of always shutting off WiFi before power down/rebooting to allow DNS66 to activate before Wifi is turned on. That should keep the updates away, but it's not always effective.

Lockscreen ads can also be kept away like that, or by following the guide here. They can also be removed by eliminating the lockscreen altogether. You can also try to call them and convince them to remove the ads for you or pay to have them removed for $15.

No need to worry about having the tablet registered with Amazon. The reason to uncheck that box was to prevent the tablet from already knowing your WiFi password when you got it so it wouldn't update. After that it doesn't matter.