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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Current version of Amazon System WebView on Fire HD10 (2021, 11h Gen)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ajun5:
Hmm, I just tried braveheartleo's version (which is 104) and the same thing happens, it does not install.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Which version do you have installed?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ajun5:
Version 90 is currently installed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Caddywonked:
I'm trying to install a custom launcher on my HD8 Fire Tablet and I'm getting this error message. This is my first time doing anything like this and I have no idea what that means. Any help would be really appreciated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rocjoh:
FYI I updated webview with blaacksheep's google drive one (v100) over my FHD10 2019 old F/W one (v75), and it's working fine
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ajun5:
Ya I've tried a bunch of times on my FDH10 2021, rebooted, and it won't update and it won't tell me why. All the other apk's load fine.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It might not be essential to update that. Do all your Amazon apps work correctly now? Music, Prime, Shop? If so, then don't worry about it. If not, we can dig deeper.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ajun5:
Yes, it does seem like they are all working correctly now so I'll just plan on using it as-is and hopefully the webview update isn't necessary. Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] damionhunt:
Im having trouble with a couple of Fire HD 10 7th Generation I have. Both of them wont unlock on approach and the screen keeps locking, whereas following the same instructions my 11th generation will. The only step I cant do on the guide to install Fully Kiosk Browser is Device Management - Unlock Screen "Show fully above the screen lock) because it is greyed out. Am I missing something ? Has anyone else come across this ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Rickt1962:
New to the forum and have couple of questions I purchased a Refurbished Amazon Fire HD10 for my 83 year old mom. Her 8 tablet is a couple of years old and getting slower. So I backed it up to the Amazon cloud and restored it to her HD10 keeps crashing. So Amazon didn't believe me so they logged into the tablet to see what was going on. I purchased it on my account and opened it and signed it on her Amazon account so it was transferred. Long story short they gave up and sent me another refurbished HD10 since I had time to wait for it I found the problem. Had to uninstall a couple of Apps and reinstall them and fixed it ! I was told when I activate the New one the old one will be disabled ? So I booted up the new one didn't activate it or allowed any Internet access to it. It has 7.3.2.4 OS reading on here using the toolbox will not root it so I can make it a Google Tablet. Has anyone tried to activate it to a new Amazon account without having it shut off the other one ? Not sure how strict Amazon has the MAC number on a kill list.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Interesting problem. The first thing that comes to mind is what version of FireOS is on the old HD 10? If it is v7.3.2.1 or lower then you have one of the "golden" firmware versions and you'd probably want to keep that. If it's 7.3.2.2 or later then it doesn't matter.

The other thing is the "kill list". Once Amazon has declared it dead and replaced it, they'll likely put it on the list whether it's "activated" or not. This won't actually kill the tablet, but will make it ineligible to be registered with Amazon and use with Amazon services like Prime Video or Kindle. I don't know if Shop Amazon will continue to work as you wouldn't be able to register the device with Amazon. Also, I wouldn't trust that they won't kill it until the new one is registered. That could be done at any time.

The old tablet won't exactly be "killed". It just will not be able to sign in to Amazon to use their services. Any other app you get from the playstore that worked before will still work.

Toolbox does not root any Amazon tablets. It just issues ADB commands to otherwise inaccessible functions in order to disable things like the Amazon launcher and the lockscreen ads. In v7.3.2.2, Amazon locked out the ability to change the launcher this way and made a couple more of the system apps into "protected" apps that can't be disabled with ADB. Workarounds have been developed to get around them anyways, so if you have a 7.3.2.2 or later tablet, it can still be made to function like a non-Amazon tablet. Google Services can still be installed on them and the Playstore is still available.

I know I didn't exactly answer your question, but you have my thoughts on your dilemma. For your mom's use (I imagine she isn't technically-minded), you'd probably be better off setting up the new tablet with Toolbox and you'll find that it's pretty well usable even with the minor problems with the workarounds. That way you don't get a call in the near future that the tablet doesn't work any longer. You can keep the older tablet to use for your own purposes knowing that it won't work with Amazon any longer.

Let us know how it goes. I hope I've been helpful.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Rickt1962:
That is some GOOD news ! I have NO old HD10 the one I purchased her was HD10 (2021) Refurbished Feb 2023 pretty sure once registered it to her account and restored her backup from her 8 tablet and it crashed all the time they sent me a second one. LOL the TOOLS working there didn't know it was the apps from the 8 tablet were causing it. The second one came a few days ago and since I REPAIRED the first one and they didn't want me to return it. I consider the time and trouble its MINE now LOL I don't use any Amazon apps. I just need Google Play store for Facebook, Twitter, Maps, Email and play Netflix pretty sure that can be done with Google. Look forward in using the Toolbox.

Thank you for the info !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
When I said "old", I meant the first replacement that you bought. I guess it's the HD 10 (2021). It could have older firmware on it and be older than v7.3.2.2. If that's the case then you can prevent further updates from Amazon (highly recommended), and Toolbox will warn you if it's not set to disable OTA Updates. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Rickt1962:
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I never checked hers and figured once it was online it got updated to the latest OS the Second HD10 has V7.3.2.4 guessing its version 11 which I listed in the first post. So I guess I am SOL :( So I will use the Toolbox to shut off the ads and install Google play store. Back to reading how to shut off the DN66

Can't complain it cost $ 79.99 full new warranty and got 2 for 1 !

Seen the new price for the Refurbs and it almost doubled !

For the amount of time I spent with Amazon on this they still owe me $500.00
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If you're using DNS66 to block updates, it has it's limitations and will eventually fail. What has proven itself to be good is RethinkDNS. I have a guide to installing and using it in the second first link in my signature. It can block applications as well as web addresses, and we use that function to block the updater app from web access. The problem with DNS66 is that it doesn't block anything until it gets loaded and by that point the Amazon update app has already queried the DNS server for the address of it's server. No good. RethinkDNS blocks immediately and will stop the app from getting the address it needs to update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Gallion:
Hi!

First, thank you for this wonderful tool.

I just bought a Fire 8 HD 12th gen. The OS is 8.3.1.2.

I am having an issue with the google account setup getting stuck on "checking info...". Is there a way out of this?

Thank you!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LordUnderling:
What's the latest word about installing FireOS 8 firmware 8.3.1.4 for the 12th-gen Fire HDs?

Any rude surprises?

I'm wondering if this updates the system app "HERE Positioning".

(aka com.here.odnp.service - version 15.3.1 under fw 8.3.1.3)

This system app appears to be a factor in the locationing hiccup that I've previously described when using Google Maps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LordUnderling:
If you don't need to use anything linked to any Google account, such as a purchased app, you could install F-Droid and, from within there, install Aurora Store, a Google Play Store client. You can also have Fire Toolbox install Aurora directly instead.

You may not want to use Aurora with any Google account because this may be a violation of your Google terms of agreement that can possibly lead to your account (or maybe all of your Google accounts) to be terminated. or banned or something.

From what I've read, this may be more of a theoretical threat that has never been carried out but it's supposedly a possibility.

As for myself, I've been using Aurora Store as an anonymous user and haven't linked my Fire HD 8 to either a Google or an Amazon account.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Gallion:
Unfortunately, I do. I use Google Drive and other Gapps quite extensively.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ForForkSake:
So I hadn't tried previously,

when I manually go to Settings > Device Options > system updates

it takes me back to settings menu.

Hopefully, the adb disable script has worked better than expected?

will that mean it cannot auto update? note: i haven't yet considered the dns route.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
I think you've underestimated the significance of the Amazon app debloating list you recently posted. If you ADB-disabled all the apps without any error messages, then all the apps were disabled.

Wrt to OTA updates, you've disabled the respective OTA apps, so you're right to surmise that you won't get any autoupdates. The significance is that you did this without the need of the OTA workarounds.

Similarly, you could probably disable and replace the default Amazon Launcher app without the cumbersome Custom Navbar/One button workarounds. You haven't tried this, but it has been successfully reported by other users.

The workarounds were developed because OTA updates and Amazon Launcher could not be ADB disabled, beginning with f/w 7.2.2.2.

That's why many of us were so surprised that FireOS 8.3.1.3 was so accommodating to to ADB disabling ... and that's significant.

Also, refer to @blaacksheep's post today regarding DNS66; the RethinkDNS "firewall"/DNS blocker solution may be more effective.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
The current concensus is that the the Google Play infrastructure is more stable with FireOS 8.3.1.3 (and probably 8.3.1.4) , so you may want to consider updating.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Gallion:
So it is safe for this purpose to update through the settings? Or should I seek the ROM of that version and update manually?

Edit :

I did a manual update to 8.3.1.3 and I can now log into Google services.

I was able to log into my Google Swiftkey account after updating the app through the Google Play store. The apk provided by the Toolbox was unable to log into it.

Google drive, Docs, Sheets and Keep work flawlessly. I am able to access files from OneDrive and Google drive from the built-in file browser.

I have not tested Google calendar as I do not use it.

Discord complains about needing Google Play services to work, but it works anyway.

Overall, I'm really happy with this purchase and it's all thanks to this amazing tool that is the Fire Toolbox. Thank you so much for making it!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] khanhlee:
tks u bro, i got it 😘
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
So glad everything is working out for you ... @Datastream33 (FTB's dev) is always encouraged by the successful experience of users!

Thanks for reporting the outdated SwiftKey link; one more "housekeeping" chore to add to the FTB to-do list.

Still some ongoing compatability issues with Gboard and Google Contacts Sync apps. Please don't hesitate to report any "problem" apps you may encounter.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Rickt1962:
Everything is working great ! Blocked Amazon :) the only issue I am having is RethinkDNS is blocking Facebook and other apps . I checked RethinkDNS and it shows Facebook not blocked if I suspend RethinkDNS for a second and facebook loads. But when I reactive RethinkDNS I no longer get updates on FB any suggestions ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ForForkSake:
Thanks for putting it into context. You're completely right.

Replacing the amazon launcher would be ideal indeed. I guess that's the next route we take.

My daughter now happily uses Google play store on her kids account, linked to my play pass sub.

Winning, thanks again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Footnote/Aside:

If you eventually decide to replace default Amazon Launcher, be sure to install an alternative launcher before disabling Amazon Launcher; otherwise there's no way to access any of your apps/settings. It may seem obvious, but you'd be surprised how many users weren't thinking abut this when this mod option was available in the early days of f/w 7.x. No permanent damage done ... other than the hassle of a factory reset. 😉
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bluebear4084:
hello, sincere apologies if this is in the wrong place! ive used this tool on my 2017 fire 7, and while most all is well and working, now the built in search bar says this is a managed device, and even in google and some settings i cannot click links and things (shows the parental control popup very briefly despite them being disabled). is there a way i should go about remedying this, or is it going to be stuck this way? thanks in advance! :) edit to say ive fixed it as it was due to the "debloat" within toolbox, unhiding the apps fixed it :p
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] conici13:
Can somebody clarify me, what is the differance between the toolbox and lineage os and is it (lineage os) worth the hassle to instal.it on the tablet?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] conici13:
Also, what system apps should i disable with fire toolbox so that the tablet will run smoother?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

The difference between Toolbox and LineageOS is that Lineage is a complete replacement of the operating system that requires an unlocked bootlader and flashing a new ROM to install. Toolbox, on the other hand, just uses ADB commands that don't require unlocking the bootloader or even having root access to manipulate the Amazon OS in order to install and disable apps to behave more like a vanilla Android OS. For tablets made after 2019, it's probably not possible to unlock the bootloader or install Lineage so it's probably not worth the bother trying. If you have an earlier Fire tablet, you may be in luck and ther might be a root exploit and bootloader unlock available. Then it's up to you to decide if it's worth the trouble of running the exploit and flashing your tablet to achieve a clean OS install like Lineage. Also, beware that you could brick your device and find it difficult to recover should you mess up the procedure (which isn't necessarily written by someone who speaks English as a first language).

As far as what system apps to disable, I usually recommend using the simple manual procedure and disable the Amazon apps that you don't want while whatching the notes that appear in the lower-right when you hover over an app. Some of them are needed even though you don't think so. I don't recommend the debloat scripts because you're flying blind there and many people run the "standard debloat" and come back here with problems related to them disabling things that they need. Don't be overzealous. You can always disable additional things later, or re-enable them if it turns out that you need them.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] conici13:
Thank you for replying and help me understand this 2 opțional.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] martytoo:
I have a new to me problem this morning. I am not sure what caused it and the easiest way to remedy the closing of many Intenet based apps.

I have the Fire HD 8 running 8.3.1.3.

Everything was fine the last time I used the tablet. This morning most of or maybe all of the Internet browsers were force closing. One obvious closing issue is the Chrome browser. My copy of Brave browser also was force closing.

Amazingly the Gmail app (which wasn't working buy I had neglected to uninstall) has worked on and off this morning.

Currently everything seems to be working again. It wasn't when I started typing this post. If anyone has any ideas I would be interested in hearing them. The best guess I have is that there was some Google Play Store or Google Services update that was half installed and perhaps now that it is installed all is well.

I has done things like reboot and even was clearing cache - hold it maybe it was that I had run 1Tap cleaner this morning. I bet it cleared too much and whatever was gone needed to repopulate. Anyway, I guess you can ignore this unless you want to install 1Tap, but I think I am uninstalling that app on the Fire HD. It works fine on my phone!!!

Edit: What if it was 1Tap that finally cleaned up the Google system to the point that Gmail worked?!?!?!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bryverine:
Hope this is the right place for this (I'm using V30.3 Fire Toolbox). I've done a complete debloat and have playstore working (thought I have to clear services periodically).

I'm trying to run several apps on my kids HD8 tablet (V8.3.something) but when they are launched (Nova or Evie), they just automatically "minimize" or I get return to home every time. They still appear to be active, but never fully launch.

If I use a video recorder, there's a notification that quickly disappears, it reads the following:

"Some permissions required

[App] requires access to permissions to function properly. Privacy is an issue that we take very seriously. To learn more about how we work with these matters..."

I can see that, for some reason, every installed app from playstore has automatically denied permissions for storage. Even when I manually reverse this and allow access, I still get this issue.

In "App permissions", for each of the apps not working, it is reported that there are "no permissions denied."

Is there something I can do for this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Rickt1962:
Well after Launching a new Refurbished Amazon Fire HD10 (2021) with version 7.3.2.4 Setting up without internet no registration and using Rethink ! Which is GREAT kept from updating when I did finally hooked up the Internet. And now using Fire Toolbox 30.3 I seem to not be able to remove the Fire Registration Screen. So did I miss something or this is what I am stuck with ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] martytoo:
Did you sign on to Google play store with the Toolbox or with the tablet interface the way you would with a regular tablet? I had much better luck signing on with the Toolbox. Also the version of 8.3 that you have it also key. 8.3.1.1 was a pain as many of us had Google play store app issues. 8.3.1.3 works like a dream for most of us.

Someone else here will chime in on whether there is a big difference between 8.3.1.3 an 8.3.1.4 - I have lost track as to whether there are newer OS but I do not play to let mine go past the version I have unless I have issues.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ericaiken:
VirusTotal is giving some positive finds on the latest Fire Toolbox 30.2. Anyone else seeing this? Are there other "Trusted" sources for the toolbox?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Muffnn:
Hey friends. I cant get the micro patch to go through. I would like to get 30.3 working so i can remove fire launcher completely. Anybody mind sending me a zip or pointing me in the right direction for it to go through? The error is saying it cant open archive.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Consider it a "false positive". Only reliable FTB download source is from XDA site.

From @Datastream33 's FTB FAQs in OP#1:

"The Toolbox is being marked as a virus?

This is likely because the Toolbox (and it's installer) aren't signed with a software license. This freaks Windows out because it sees that there is no publisher, and as a result it displays a warning (smartscreen). In addition, some anti-viruses might also flag the Toolbox as a virus simply because the build is relatively new and there is no record of it in the anti-viruses database, resulting in a false positive.

As always, I take your security and privacy VERY seriously! If you do not feel safe with installing the Toolbox due to virus concerns, I respect and support your decision. It is always up to the user and their judgment! :D"
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Check your current FireOS version; better Google Play infrastructure compatability and stability with FireOS 8.3.1.3 . Consider upgrading if necessary.

Also, you may need to re-enable Amazon's Device Setup app ; it's foundational for some Fire tablet options like setting global app permissions.

from Fire Toolbox, try :

Manage Amazon Apps > Simple (Recommended) > Restore Apps > select "Device Setup" > Restore Selected . Reboot device.

May also have to re-enable other apps you debloated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ForForkSake:
FYI the above commands did work in aShell via Shizuku using local wireless adb

cutting out the need for a pc.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kryga-i9506:
A big thank you to @Datastream33 and all the people who share their knowledge here.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] narf2:
hi all,

i'm having a "new" amazon fire 10 generation 11 (2021) and i cleaned the system as well as i could with the fire tools and i have not installed any google apps on purpose.

but now i'm having the problem that i don't get an internet connection. it connects perfectly to my wifi(s) but there is an exclamation mark behind the wifi and it says "no internet connection".

i also tried a second wifi from my phone but same effect there... connection is established, but no internet access.

other devices work fine.

do i have to do / not do / (un)install something via the fire tools for the internet to work properly?

thanks and cheers,

narf
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Did you perhaps install RethinkDNS or DNS66? You may have messed up the DNS settings so that it cannot lookup the addresses of the websites it is trying to connect to. You also could have changed the 'DNS Resolver' with Toolbox under 'Networking' in the 'Modify System Settings' subtool.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] narf2:
YES, that was it :) thank you very much for your fast answer... the interesting part is though, that none of the DNS services worked - except for "ISP's default DNS". and i'm not using the ISP DNS anyways as i've changed that in the router.

i ignore it for now - thaaaaank you very much, again :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I've had trouble with that switch under 'Networking' too. I left it at default because my router is set to assign "1.1.1.1" as the DNS Resolver.(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tbomb123:
tried to install google services and get download not avaible error..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] RealPsygnosis:
My girlfriend gave me a fire hd 10 (gen 11), unfortunately like an idiot, seeing that it came with her account, I put mine in and of course it updated :(

I don't know which fw it was shipped with, but now with Toolbox I can't set a default custom launcher.

Am I doing something wrong? Basically the amazon launcher won't disable and you can't put the default custom launcher on.

Thank you all for your help