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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] hotstocks:
True, but my point is they put in a powerfull Mediatek 8183 octa core that is faster at cpu and gpu then Samsung's $200 tab A 2019 (Fire HD's main competitor). I have both tablets and believe it or not, the Fire HD 10 is faster at most 3D games than the Samsung. But here is the kicker and my point. They both advertise 2gb ram. The Samsung has about 1.9Gb ram available, the Fire HD 10 has about 1.7Gb ram available. Those precious 200mb of extra ram on the Samsung allow some games to play just fine that choke or die on the FireHD. Hell, I've got a $40 burner phone with stock android/ATT that has 1.9Gb ram and a crappy processor, yet it can run some games that the Fire can not, and it is all due to the extra Amazon/Alexa/Bloat crap that we can't remove from permanent ram until root. To me this seriously cripples the device. I wouldn't even mind the Amazon interface, but even turning Alexa off leaves an inadequate amount of ram. Not to mention you can't even have one app running in the background usually, such as VPN, adblocker, ect. as any game/app uses all the memory and closes the last background app. It seems trivial, but if they chose to only go with 2gb ram, then they SHOULD HAVE followed every other company and made 1.9gb available, not 1.7gb, because developers develop to that amount of memory and when they say required specs 2gb ram, they really mean 1.9gb which works fine, but a lot of the time 1.7gb just doesn't work at all, and that is a huge problem that could be overcome by freeing up .2gb of ram.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] oversleeper:
You can do that manually in ADB with the following commands:

adb shell
pm enable com.amazon.kindle
pm enable com.amazon.kindle.cms
pm enable com.amazon.kindle.kso
pm enable com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe
pm enable com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
pm enable com.amazon.kindle.personal_video
pm enable com.amazon.kindle.rdmdeviceadmin
pm enable com.amazon.kindle.unifiedSearch

Maybe I would leave com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota disabled, as it seems to be related with some sort of OTA.

After debloating you should have roughly 1.3 GB of RAM used. That should be enough to play most games.

Amazon must have focused on the hardware specs that they needed for the product to work as intended. I don't believe the main purpose of Fire HD 10 to be gaming.

But yeah, it would have been amazing to have extra RAM, a better camera and stock Android OS.:D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] hotstocks:
Yeah, but can't debloat till we get root. Toolbox freezing/hibernating amazon bloat still locks up the ram.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Nah - memory management (optimized for FireOS and associated apps) and kernel tuning. Tweak a few VM settings and games will load/play just fine. Of course, root is required.

Total onboard memory is likely similar between the two devices; differences in usable amounts are attributable to how much is held in reserve. Not 100% confident in that statement as I do not own either device. But I see the same characteristics on other Amazon gizmos.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] djshrike:
This tool has caused pop ups to appear on my screen every few seconds and I have had to factory reset to clear everything! Can you explain this??
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
This is likely due to Parental Controls. On some devices Parental Control is tied deeply into the OS itself and when anything is missing from the OS when it calls for it, it will pop up a message.

There is a tool in the Toolbox called Block Parental Controls that will install a blocker for these notifications... Maybe give it a try (please make sure you enable the accessibility service for Parental Controls).

I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] djshrike:
It is not system alert pop ups, it is advertisements!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Advertisements? I'm failing to see how this could be caused by the Toolbox. Did you download the Toolbox from this forum or an outside source?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I can assure you that I take your security and privacy very seriously. I would never ever in my life do anything malicious to someone's property. I don't know where the advertisements came from and I can confirm they didn't appear due to the Toolbox's use. Don't forget you can review the toolboxs source code at anytime if you feel the need to do so.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] djshrike:
Directly from here. Followed the instructions to the letter. Tried uninstalling Automate and YouTube Vanced (as these were the only two programs I installed using the tool) but no difference.

I used the tool to block lockscreen ads and disable most of the amazon bloatware and install these two programs and pop up ads starting appearing on the screen every 5 mins or so. Noone else has reported this issue?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
May I ask what apps you installed and from what source?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] djshrike:
I had previously installed the Google play store and ComicRack prior to using the tool but had been using it for 2 weeks with no pop ups until using the toolbox. Can you guarantee that the 3rd party programs that the toolbox installs are ad free? Maybe they came from one of those?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yes, I believe they are. Automate and Vanced should be completely ad-free. Now, I've done some research on this ComicRack app and there are a few reviews in the Playstore for the app that claim the app "shows full screen pop-up advertisements". I also find it weird that the pro version is $7.90. If I were to guess the ads were coming from ComicRack Free.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] djshrike:
I would agree with you if I didn't have ComicRack installed on another device that I have used for a few years with no sign of an advert. Also, no adverts appearing on this Kindle Fire until after using the tool.

If noone else has reported having this issue and you can vouch for the programs then I will have to investigate elsewhere. It just seemed very coincidental
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I just don't see how the Toolbox can be where the issue lies. Like I said I would NEVER even consider doing anything malicious for even a second. I've also made sure the apps it installs are indeed from the primary source where the developer(s) distrubute them.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rubinglen:
hd10 gen 9

I have the Fire HD10 (9th generation). I followed the steps listed in the tutorial, but when I try to run fire toolbox, I get a message saying 'No device was found.' :confused:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Alright guys,

Is anyone willing to test V6.5?

I need testers with tablets that are 7th gen, and also need testers with tablets generation 8 or above. Please contact me via PM if you are interested. Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
Zach,

You know that I'd be interested in checking out the new version of the app.

David
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Goldenmeadow:
Hi!

I have a quick question:

I'm setting up HD10 2019 for friend's mom. I don't have here Amazon account right now. As I see it, I need to register it with my account, run all updates and after that - toolbox to remove amazon's bloatware.

But then I need to deregister it from my account and attach it to her's. What's the proper way? Factory reset? (or it will wipe all good will of this toolbox?)

Thanks!!!!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
What I would do is factory reset the device (if you don't have any data on the tablet you need) and perform the registration skip. To skip registration you will setup the device as usual but when it asks for a WIFI access point select ANY WIFI point (even if you don't know the password). Then hit cancel and then you should see a "Skip" button. Tap that and continue with registration (don't connect to the WIFI until you are safely on the launcher).

Follow the correct setup guide for your tablet (refer to the first post). You should now be able to use the Toolbox as you please. To register all you need to do is open ANY app that requires the device to be registered (Amazon Store) and register from there! Good luck and let me know if you need further help... I'm here to help! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok, let's see what we can do to resolve this hopefully.

Have you perhaps tried plugging your tablet into a different USB port?

Have you tried using a different USB cable?

I would also recommend closing the Toolbox, killing adb.exe in task manager, and on your tablet head over to the developer options, toggle it off and on again, and then open the Toolbox.

If you have access to another PC maybe try on that PC?

Please make sure USB Debugging is enabled, and you've installed the drivers from the Toolbox (and if you are on Windows 7 or lower make sure you've installed the additional drivers). If you need further help let me know, I would be happy to assist further! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I've sent you a PM with the details. ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Currently, the Toolbox isn't capable of removing the apps for users other than the primary (0) user. However, the next update will be able to do so! Stay tuned! ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Goldenmeadow:
Thanks!!!! IMHO you should add this SKIP paragraph in first post - it will help newbies like me :)

The last sentence - are you talking about Amazon launcher or Nova?

But there are updates from Amazon... Won't they screw up all hard work of your toolbox?

When I initially set the tablet up, I connected to WiFi, tablet downloaded and installed updates, I registered with Amazon and then run your toolbox - everything worked like a charm!!!!

We're talking about Amazon registration, right?

BTW, your toolbox works like a charm! (I couldn't find couple items from your list in the first post - i.e. Enhanced Updater, but it's ok).

I couldn't find option of adding second Google account though... (Not really need it, just curious).

Really good job!!!!!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
1. Personally, I would recommend downloading the flow directly from the community. To do so, open Automate and look for the "More flows..." flow and start it. If it asks for further permissions please grant Automate those permissions. Once the community activity has loaded tap on the search icon (looks like a magnifying glass) and search for "Amazon". Once the search results load look for the Amazon Lockscreen Ads Remover V4.5 (ADB Required) flow and tap on it. Now, select the Download option. Return to Flows. You should now see the flow and you may continue with the guide.

2. There is indeed a way to get fire Launcher back. Open the Toolbox and select the "Manage Everything Amazon" tool. Then select the Manual Restore subtool. Start the tool and wait for the App Selector to show. Now you can select Fire Launcher and restore it. To make sure the launcher fully restores I would reboot the device at this point.

Hopefully, you are satisfied with this response. If you have further questions please let me know. ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
It doesn't really matter if you are using Fire Launcher or Nova. :D

There are updates from Amazon that could potentially shut down the Toolbox but it would require the removal or restrictions on ADB which I don't see Amazon wasting time/money to do so. But, that doesn't mean it isn't probable.

Anyways, yes I probably should add the skip registration to the guides right! Good call :good::)

Because the tablets are designed by Amazon you will not see an option to add additional Google Accounts (you aren't supposed to have the Play Store or Google Services :p)

But, you can sign into an additional Google Account by using the Google app!

BTW: I'm glad you are enjoying the Toolbox and what it has to offer! Its what makes it all worth while! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rubinglen:
I will need to look into finding another windows computer to try this on, attempting to use a different usb port did not work. I just noticed that flashing beneath the 'No device was found.' message is another message that says: 'error no devices/emulators found'
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
Thank You So Much !

David :o
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ritchea:
I can't tell re your experience, but can we go back to pre-steps and ask, do you get an ID response on "adb devices" in cmd window? If so, have you tried going into the hardware settings to remove the Android device and set it up again?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rubinglen:
my experience is limited, but am good at following instructions if you can tell me what to do or provide a link to instructions. I tried reinstalling the software and that didn't work. Here is what I've been doing in detail. I plug in the usb cord to my fire hd and windows computer. Fire then comes up with a message that 'Fire is connected to a low-power charger', I dismiss this message by pressing 'OK'. I then swipe down from the top on fire and press on the message that says 'System - Charging this device via USB ', which changes to a prompt saying 'tap for USB options', so I tap it. This launches the USB preferences menu. There's an option to have USB controlled by this device or the connected device, I've tried selecting Connected Device, but this doesn't work and results in a message saying 'Couldn't switch'. Other USB options are to use USB for File Transfer, MIDI, PTP, No data transfer. I select File Transfer. None of this matters of course b/c when I try to run fire toolbox the message is always that the device can't be found.

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OK, I just opened a command window on windows, and typed "adb devices" . First time i typed it i got the following response:

List of devices attached

adb server is out of date. killing...

* daemon started successfully *

unsuccessful i guess. I then tried it again and got the following:

List of devices attached
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ritchea:
Of course you wouldn't want to show the device ID, but I'm assuming that the line after "List of devices attached" shows your tablet ID. Did you then go to the ToolBox to see if it now accessed your device? FWIW, "List of devices attached

adb server is out of date. killing...

* daemon started successfully *" is all correct protocol for the cmd prompt.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rubinglen:
no it does not show my tablet id, it just says list of devices attached followed by nothing, an empty list. so obviously my device isn't even showing up. not sure how to resolve that, any advice? thank you!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] 178389:
Hello and thank you for this amazing tool! I have been trying to get google on my 9th gen fire for awhile and have had no joy. This tool finally did it (although I had to remove the 'amazon' from the fire first) so thank you for that! However, I do have a bit of an issue that is probably quite specific. I am trying to sign in to google with my daughters account that is managed via the family link app and I have fallen into the "This profile manager is required for Google Accounts managed with Family Link." loop that doesnt seem to have a fix. I have also noticed that once you sign in to google you cant sign out. On most devices you can go to settings and accounts and sign out but presumably the fire doesnt have that option (unless I am blind and missed it?). When I signed in with my account I had to remove google play and start again to sign in with another account. I know there will always be restrictions when altering a device like the fire without rooting it but any thoughts or future fixes would be much appreciated. Thanks again...

Geoff
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ritchea:
That's the issue, then. ADB isn't working. Have you been able to get another device to show up using adb? (checking one side of the issue--the PC). If "yes", then double-check the other side--tablet. Is USB Debugging ticked on under the tablet settings: Device Options/Developer Options/Debugging?

If all that is set up, (and you've already tried a different cable), try to go into Windows Device Manager (tablet connected) and locate the tablet. On my Windows 10 PC, it shows up under Universal Serial bus devices/Fire. It could just show ADB device. Right click then uninstall the device. When you attach the tablet again, it should re-install correct drivers. Alternately, try updating the driver. (Browse from computer>Pick from available drivers then it will go through the process. It may say you already have the best drivers, but it may also fix an issue cause by software glitch.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I'm not sure if I have asked this before or if you've answered this question in a previous post but may I ask what Windows version are you on? Windows 7? Windows 10?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hello friend,

If you need to sign in to another Google Account I would suggest downloading the Google app from the Play Store.

To sign in to an additional account:

* Open the Google app.

* Tap on More (bottom right)

* Tap on your profile name (Top of the app)

* Once expanded you will see the option to add another account.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rubinglen:
I am using windows 10 pro. i went do device manager as you suggested and see the problem... fire was listed as not having a driver. I uninstalled it and tried plugging the tablet back in. Now instead of coming up listed as fire, it lists as ADB interface in the device manager menu, but still has an exclamation mark on it and properties indicate that the drivers for the device are not installed (code 28). If i try updating the driver it says that windows can not find the driver even though it searches online. If I try downloading and installing windows fire drivers that doesn't seem to make a difference either.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ritchea:
Try this. I'm not new to Android but pretty new to Fire stuff so it's learn as I go.

Because of the fact that Datastream has included complete ADB tools in his toolbox, you shouldn't need anything else (Info from Link: If you're not using Android Studio, you need to download and install Android SDK platform tools.) on your pc (aside from working driver) to access the toolkit.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
This is very strange. OK, have you tried uninstalling the driver, rebooting, then plugging the tablet back in?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
OK, just read your previous post more carefully. When choosing to update the driver does it allow you to select the driver manually?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rubinglen:
yes, i have the option to do manual install from local file

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Hey Folks, I just had the opportunity to try firebox from my wife's computer... worked flawlessly. Am all good now.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
That's good to hear. Fantastic work! :good::)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] oversleeper:
Root is currently achievable on 2019 Fire HD 10 if you didn't update the firmware. Check this out.

Disabled apps are not running so logically they shouldn't use any memory resources but some of them could technically be re-enabled by OTA or some other automated mechanism that Amazon may implement. Also they reduce available storage as they're still there.

On my rooted device I've attempted to physically delete most of the Amazon apps, but I ended up breaking some system functions and I had to factory reset. Being this Fire OS and not Android stock it's hard to say what you can safely delete. Datastream33's toolbox is still the best/easiest way to debloat, most likely until when/if a custom firmware based on Android stock will be released.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
UPDATE: Amazon Fire Toolbox V6.5 is OUT!

Alright, so it's update time once again... Sweet! :victory:

In this update, a few features were added and a few features were fixed or reworked.

In this update, you can now add or remove new users (if you'd like to remove a user please keep in mind that you can only remove users who have been CREATED by the Toolbox), you can now hide/disable/enable the navigation bar, turn off automatic updates for system updates, and Amazon store app updates, accessibility services can now be enabled automatically, the method for obtaining language has been enhanced/reworked, you can now uninstall/clear cache for Google Services and a few more!

If you are curious as to what has been changed/added please consult the changelog below:

As always, you can download the new update using the Toolbox's built-in update service, or you can download it via the downloads section of the first post.

Special shout outs to all my awesome testers: [MENTION=4200889]Davy49[/MENTION], [MENTION=4248278]ritchea[/MENTION], [MENTION=2251155]startbiker99[/MENTION], and [MENTION=5366975]ytsejam1138[/MENTION]! Thank you all so much!

Special THANKS also goes out to my wonderful donators! THANK YOU ALL SO FREAKING MUCH! :D

That's all I've got and I hope you all enjoy what V6.5 has to offer!

BTW, Thanks for all the support on the previous update! You guys are absolutely the best! :highfive:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JackDN06:
After creating a system backup with v6.5 is the HD10 (2017) suppose to reboot? I get a frozen screen that says: 'Status: - Waiting for user to finish backup process using their tablet....

The tablet does go back to the home screen. Do I just disconnect the tablet from the computer and exit the computer program?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bojamijams:
Hi Datastream33,

Thank you for this awesome tool!

When I installed v6.4 it asked me if I wanted to enable global UTF-8 support. I said yes but the degree sign is not able to be displayed (as well as the ASCII boarders on the menu buttons looking weird). The degree sign not displaying correctly is in my hardware info programs that show CPU/GPU temperature, etc.

My question is, how do I undo the global UTF-8 support change that the toolbox created?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Good question friend. I actually have a video dedicated to helping users remove UTF-8 support. I would recommend you follow this tutorial and hopefully, you can disable the UTF-8 support with ease! Good luck my good sir and let me know how it goes and if you need further help! :D

[YOUTUBE]e58U30AblvY[/YOUTUBE]​

If for some reason the video doesn't appear above here is the direct link
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bojamijams:
Thanks man that definitely fixed the issue!

Again, thank you for making this awesome tool !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
No problem! Just glad to help out! P.S: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DONATION! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] BaRRmaley:
Today's Fire HD 8 2017 update 5.3.7.0 adds ~7 seconds delay between pressing of home key and return to nova launcher home screen.