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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I was just saying to shy away from doing an automatic debloat using someone else's script. You don't know what is being disabled by that. Much better to do a manual debloat and specify what you want removed. Datastream33 was nice enough to make a manual tool and include descriptions of what each thing does and even color coded them as far as what other things were affected by their removal. The automatic debloat was added later because it was asked for.

Alexa requires a whole bunch of things to work that aren't even shown in the Manual debloat. The Automatic debloat also removes some apps that aren't shown in Manual. I don't even know if they can be restored automatically. (They probably can , but it's likely all or nothing.) Running the Automatic script probably disabled some component(s) of Alexa that were needed for it to function fully. I'm glad a reset was an option in your case and that you got it working to your liking.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] afterall:
Great tool BTW and managed to de-amazon my fire 7 tablet. Only issue I had was trying to add Google play services caused the application to crash on my Windows laptop.

I managed to load Google play by installing four separate files but just wondered if this had bean noted before. A
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I think if you go through the last 10-20 pages of this thread, you'd be hard-pressed to find one without a mention of a Google Services problem. It seems to be a recurring theme recently. I don't know if it's something Google did or it's just an incompatibility problem with Toolbox and some other program on your laptop. I'm glad you were able to manually install Google.:) It's just another thing that needs attention (yet again) to keep Toolbox up to date.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] afterall:
Thanks for your reply and for confirming that it wasn't just my user error 😁 It was easy enough to Google, find the package files and install as a plan B.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jubjubrsx:
Has anyone found any sort of way to remove the fire launcher in general? or make it so it cant load/run? I know the most recent update broke it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Maybe I'm misinformed, but doesn't the Toolbox offer to replace Fire Launcher even on v.7.3.2.2? I thought on the latest firmware it could be replaced, but the replacement wouldn't survive a reboot and needed to be redone. (I'm on an older firmware version that doesn't have this problem.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jubjubrsx:
The 7.3.2.2 FW you cant downgrade, or anything but the fire launcher keeps loading when you hit the home, just more of a nuisance.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm not sure what options you have with v.7.3.2.2. Do you have more than 1 choice and have you tried them all? (Launcher downgrade, or Launcher Hijack?) I don't want to 'upgrade' the firmware on mine just to find out. I can only go by what others say when they complain about the new firmware. If you have tried all choices, I understand and I guess you're just stuck with that behavior until something else can be worked out.:confused:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] zigner:
I'm already on 7.3.2.2 but thought it might be helpful to control updates, in case there happens to be progress on getting tools to work on this version. Is there a guide to what needs to be blocked in order to accomplish this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You'd have to do a search through the thread(s). I know I've seen it mentioned and addresses to block have been reported, but I don't remember where.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dcooterfrog:
Currently with 7322 there is one choice i was so unhappy i bought a new one on ebay with older software.

Anyone want to buy a 8hd with 7322
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] hcour:
FYI for anyone interested, I'm on 7322 on my new Tablet HD 10 Plus and the re-routed Home button has worked fine for me with MS Launcher for several days now. I also got rid of the Lock Screen altogether.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That's great that your configuration works! :love: If you feel adventurous, think about trying it out with Nova Launcher, and possibly a couple other launchers that are provided by the Toolkit, just to report back to us what works and what doesn't in the latest F/W update. You're adventures will be most appreciated by many!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] fBx:
II've just gotten a new Fire HD 10 11th gen. I bought one myself two months ago and it was no problem to replace the launcher with Nova altogether. With this device though I can't. I can install Nova but the standard Amazon launcher appears again. The options Launcher Hijack and Downgrade Fire Launcher are disabled and there's no radio button next to Disable fire launcher. What am I doing wrong here?

Edit: nvm, I just clicked on the text Disable Fire Launcher and it seems to activate the invisible radio button. It got replaced now.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] fBx:
On another note, will it now forever be impossible to disable OTA updates and remove the Fire Launcher on 7322 and upwards? Or is this just, as always, a matter of time?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Don't give up. Where there's a will, a way will be found. I think they've got it pretty well locked down now, so the best option is likely to be a temp or permanent root exploit. There are people working on it, but interest seems to have fallen off recently. Keep your eyes on the threads about your specific tablet and any MTK root threads.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mdb301:
My fire HD 10 11th gen is no longer working with the home key reroute :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Welcome to XDA! :)

If you have 7.3.2.2 F/W installed, and you have rebooted, it is my understanding that the re-route must be done again. From what I've heard, the fix is only temporary and doesn't survive a reboot. Most people don't reboot that often, so it's just a pain but not a total loss of function.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Dora409:
Hello, I want to buy a tablet and I saw that these are cheap, do you recommend me to go for a fire hd 8 2020 or a fire hd 10 2021 to be able to use the fire toolbox and the tablet work well? Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gangrelg:
I like these tablets for what they are but amazon seems to not want you to be able to change anything on them. a lot of the tools dont work on the newest firmware, at least for now.

myself Im looking at getting a lenova m series tablet if they remove the ability to sideload the playstore.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
HI, welcome to XDA! :) As was previously mentioned, Amazon does not want you to remove their advertising platform from your tablet. But, if you don't allow the tablet to update, there's a good chance you'll get firmware v.7.3.1.9 or earlier and be able to use the full capabilities of the Toolbox. 😍

Just follow the the directions in the 'spoilers' of the first post and you will have the highest likelihood of getting your wishes. Also, make sure to uncheck the box when ordering that says "Link this tablet to my Amazon account" or something similar. That way it won't have your WiFi password already loaded when you get it.

Either choice is fine. You just don't want F/W v.7.3.2.2. If you get a color other than black, you'll have the best chance of getting a tablet with v. 7.3.1.9 or earlier (IMO).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ZakMcRofl2:
I have a problem.

Device: Fire HD 10 (2017) 7th gen

Previously modivied with Fire Toolbox 10.2, now using 26.1

I wanted to remove the Google Services but it fails because they are still device admin for an application. However when I go to the device admin page, I see nothing enabled except for the greyed out child protection. So I cannot until anything.

Is there a way to force an re-installation in such a state?

Also, I did not use the "remove everything from amazon" tool.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ZakMcRofl2:
Weird, after working on this for hours it seems like posting here brought me to find the solutiom myself. There was a second user account on the device that had apparently never logged in but still owned permissions. As that user, I was able to uninstall Google Play Services (and Fire Toolbox showed the Google Services option)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tester2243:
For the OTA updates, is there a IP endpoint option that perhaps I can block on the router level? It's not as clean as disabling the ota package, but maybe an option?

I figure if I upgrade my device, we'll all end up on 7322 or higher at some point in the future and would like a permanent fix.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes. You can block a couple IP addresses at the router to prevent further OTA's getting through. There are a couple of addresses that need to be blocked but I don't know what they are. You could do a search through this thread and others, or I could hunt them down myself tomorrow.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Maswahyu:
Thanks man.

MS launcher works for me too.

Fire HD 8 with 7.3.3.2.

But it comes with minor bug.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] hcour:
Glad it works for you. What's the bug?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Maswahyu:
Sometimes back to fire launcher,,,

Sometimes ads in the locksreen appears.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cathorn:
Love the detailed support and hard work. Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] benjhe:
Hey ! I would say thank you for this great work !! That's very nice

I just encounter one problem with my Fire HD 8 (10th gen) when I try to associate a kid Google account.

When I set up my Google account, there is no problem, but when I try to connect with my son's account, Google Services searches for available updates and then displays an error message.

I think this is due to the fact that Google try to install Google Family Link dependancies. Maybe some necessary files are missing ?

Does someone already encounter this error ? Is it possible to run a kid Google account on the Fire Tablet with this tool ?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Unfortunately, despite our best efforts we haven't been able to get family link working correctly on Fire Tablets. We assume it's a combination of missing dependencies, and the tablets not being Play Certified. Hate to be the barer of bad news. Anyways, hope you have a good rest of your day/night.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
My pleasure, and thank you for the support! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Managed to dig up @goatbor's post from a while back. It should contain all the IPs. Best of luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] benjhe:
Arg Damn !

As a developer, I understand and I don't blame you. The work done is already an amazing good job.

I will wait, maybe in a few month, a new version of Fire Toolbox will allow that functionality ;-) Or a lineage custom rom will be available on the Fire HD 8.

Thanks for your response.

Regards
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Thank you for being so understanding. We'll keep trying things and hopefully one day it'll work... 🤞

Have a good one! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yeah, @blaacksheep is correct... the re-route method will not be retained through reboots, unfortunately. I was, however, able to get Automate to run the re-route method, but it doesn't seem to work as intended. A step in the right direction through...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] shooreek:
Hi there,

The portable version of the toolbox (26.1) crashes when i try to install google services. Does anyone see the same issue?

Version 23.1 does nothing when i click install g services. Just loading status without any progress...

Thanks for sharing your ideas.

Kindle Fire 10 HD (2019)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Norman2022:
I encountered the same issue tonight. Kindle Fire 10 HD Plus 11th Generation

Update: I shut Toolbox down completely then restarted it. That seemed to work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Headless Bill:
My Fire HD 8 is crashing to the lock screen any time I try to swipe the Quick Settings Menu down, but only when the tablet is in portrait mode. When in landscape, it opens fine. I tried rebooting it and re-installing Nova launcher, but it's still happening. I haven't installed anything or made any changes since it was working last either. Any ideas?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
just wondering what will happen to YouTube vanced now Google hit em with a cease and desist 😲
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] manyxda:
Questions: Why is there no longer a custom ROM for these Fire HD devices? Would one ever come out in the future?

By a 'custom ROM' I mean things like lineageOS and CyanogenMod.

Just to illustrate the type of answer I am thinking of, is it a matter of somebody's deciding to put in the necessary time or not? After all, there can't be a custom ROM for every single make and model out there. But on this line thought, since these Fire HD devices are quite popular, you would think they would attract people to write custom ROMs for them.

Or is it in the nature of a (recent) Fire HD device that makes it difficult, not worthwhile, impossible etc. to write ROMs for it?

The inability to block OTA update in OS version 7.3.2.2 is a real bummer, and if something like a LineageOS came out, I'd flash the thing with it in a flash.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Well, some Fire devices DO have custom ROMs. Particularly, many of the 2018 devices can have Lineage. The problem is that we need an exploit in order to unlock the bootloader and (a reliable) one hasn't been found for the 2019 and newer devices. (There is a thread here that is exploring the 2019 devices and some have successfully rooted and unlocked their bootloaders.)

I was hopeful, myself, for a root/unlock for these tablets. They're certainly cheap enough that it would be a popular device to mod. Between Mediatek and Amazon, they've got them pretty well locked down nowadays. We can remain hopeful and use the toolbox for now, or we can jump in and explore rooting these things ourselves. That thread I linked to is a good start.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] VHSJayden:
I just got my Fire HD 8 (2020), and I followed all the instructions for Fire Toolbox, but it looks like it shipped with 7.3.2.2 so I can't disable OTA updates. Is this normal? What should I do in the meantime? Am I okay to connect to wifi? Should I connect it to my Amazon account?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Since you already have 7.3.2.2 installed, it can't be downgraded or removed, so there is no longer any reason to prevent it from connecting to WiFi. There is also no reason (other than not wishing to be part of the Amazon ecosystem) to prevent it from logging into Amazon. Especially if you want to use their services like Prime or shopping.

You will still be able to use most of the tools in Toolbox except it won't disable OTA updates, you can't replace the launcher permanently, and you can't remove the lockscreen ads (except by paying or sweet talking Amazon). The OTA updates can be blocked at your router (see the post above by @Datastream33), and I believe you can remove the lockscreen ads by disabling the lockscreen altogether in Toolbox. The launcher can be replaced, but the replacement will need to be redone each time you reboot because Fire launcher will take over on reboot. That wouldn't bother me much because I only reboot about once/month.

If you still are in the return window, you could send it back for a replacement and hope for an earlier firmware version by ordering another color. Some of the uglier colors don't sell as fast so they are more likely to be older stock. You can also just make do for now and hope for an update to Toolkit that addresses some of these issues. (The Toolkit gets updated fairly frequently.) :)

Edit: Here's the part of @goatbor's post that refers to blocking OTA updates:

When checking for updates manually, it tries to hit either arcus-uswest.amazon.com or softwareupdates.amazon.com. When I've got both of those blocked, it fails on checking for updates, but with everything else happening who knows how long that'd manage to work for. And obviously as I'm hitting uswest because I'm in western canada, I assume people on the east coast would be hitting arcus-useast.amazon.com and so on.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] VHSJayden:
Okay, thank you so much!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Just a note for the users of Vanced. They won't be releasing any more updates because they've received a cease and desist order from YouTube. YouTube has blocked most earlier versions. The symptom is the app says you are offline. The latest version (17.03.38) still works for now and you can still update to it through Vanced Manager. You should probably update your Vanced microG (to version 0.2.24.220220) too. NewPipe is not affected so it's an option if/when Google blocks all versions of Vanced.

Edit: Here's a link to the thread starting from Wednesday Mar 16, 2022: https://xdaforums.com/t/app-mod-root-nonroot-vanced.3758757/post-86584229
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] XeonBionic:
Will you still be able to get rid of most amazon apps, and such? I just don't want to have amazon's BS on my tablet. I'm getting a Fire Tablet HD 10+ (2021), which should be arriving later today. I just want to get rid of the amazon components.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes. You may even get v.7.3.1.9 instead of v7.3.2.2 and be able to shut off everything if you don't give it access to your wifi before running Toolkit! But, even if you do get the latest firmware, you'll still be able to run the rest of the tools and debloat your tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dreamwa:
I have a fire hd 7 2015 and can't do much since I constantly get the error about multiple devices connected when pushing the google apps on the device.

I ran adb.exe devices and I see the device and also "emulator-5562" as offline. If I kill-server and check devices again I see just the kindle, but as soon as I click on the button to install the google apps, that simulator appear again and I get an error from fire toolbox saying that there are multiple devices attached.

Not sure what command do I have to run here; I have V26.1 running on W10. Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] maxius4:
Any chance, support can be added for the devices that fall under Amazon Fire TV brand via a Remote ADB command?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] alemarchia:
I,

just arrived Fire Hd10 2021, i want only install google play store for some app that i don't find on amazon, unfortunatly i've update at the last system update, can i install it with toolbox? Any risk for block device?

Thank You
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
No risk of being blocked. Go ahead and install Google services and Playstore. With the new update, though, you won't be able to do everything that Toolbox does. None of the tools will get you blocked or blacklisted.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I don't think the dev has any plans for that, at least not right away. You can use tools like ADB App Control and ADBLink to make life a little easier dealing with ADB commands though. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's possible you have a smart tv or a Roku box or some other box connected to your WiFi that would cause that. If that's the case, either unplug or otherwise get it off your network while you use Toolbox. ADB can only deal with one device at a time.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thecensor:
I didn't uncheck "Link device to your Amazon account" i when ordering, will I still be able to use this toolkit?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes, but you may need to shut off your WiFi when you first set it up. Linking it to your Amazon account means that it will have your WiFi password(s) and will connect and update immediately. You don't want the new firmware so either set it up out of range of your WiFi, or shut off your WiFi until you can turn off the WiFi on the tablet to prevent it from auto-updating.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TrevLionel:
I'm not having a good time right now. Not a single mention of 7.3.2.2 incompatibility on the main post of this topic.

Forgive me for not reading through 421 forum pages to finally figure out I just wasted a bunch of money, but you should probably put in no uncertain terms a disclaimer about the version requirements. I think it's extremely disingenuous to simply put instructions under a spoiler tag.

Like if the latest shipping software version isn't compatible with this you need to make that abundantly freaking clear before people go buy these tablets since most now ship with the newest versions. Having the instructions hidden behind a spoiler tag is not enough.

Almost every single piece of rooting and/or exploit/debug software that has version requirements has that, I can't for the love of me figure out why this one doesn't. This tool is basically useless at this point for anyone buying new tablets.

Yes, I bought multiple brand new tablets, followed all the instructions, every single one was loaded with 7.3.2.2 right off the bat. Didn't connect to wifi, didn't link my account. I basically budgeted my entire smart home around these and these working.

There's really nothing to thank you for given that you're apparently not actively developing this anymore and are now just telling people with 7.3.2.2 they're SOL at this point, and the fact that current version is next to useless for newly shipping tablets that come already updated despite following your instructions, I think that merits a heavy disclaimer at the very beginning before people go wasting money.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nukumichi75:
I'm on an Fire HD 10 (9th gen) running 7.3.2.2 with the latest updates and removing lockscreen ads with the Automate Lockscreen Ads Remover V4.5 still works like a charm on my device. I didn't disable the lockscreen via the Toolbox completely. I'm using Nova Launcher, having disabled the home button via the Toolbox completely and using the App Pie Controls instead, which is working great as well. When rebooting, I just have to launch Nova Launcher manually once. For me, this feels very close to permanent replacement.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok, look... the Toolbox is a passion project I do in my free time... which I haven't had a lot of lately. I understand you're upset and rightfully so, but life has gotten crazy for me and my spare time is extremely limited. I however, do not appreciate you blaming me for 7.3.2.2's existence (and I've never said people were "SOL" because they had 7.3.2.2 installed)... all Amazon devices are facing the same issues right now and no one developing projects based around Amazon devices have found the means of getting around the restrictions (without root) that I'm aware of. I will admit, I should have updated the OP to make it more clear that is true, and I will be sure to update the OP when I get the chance. Have a good day/night, and I'm sorry to disappoint.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nukumichi75:
Thank you for your important clarifications, @Datastream33 I thought everyone using your tool (and by the way, using any tools, scripts etc here on XDA) is aware of the fact that stuff is offered as is, for free and without promising weekly updates, personal support etc. Since I have been using your Toolbox you have been incredible fast in updating the tool and responding to questions. Thank you for that - good that you're here!