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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] d4rthpaul:
Thanks this solved my problem too.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gguerra:
We buy HD 10s and we buy quite a few of them. We use them for production work at our company. All we do is view pdf files. I remove everything amazon except the keyboard which I prefer. Install google and I use Nova Launcher Prime. Disable OTA and lock screen ads. Anyway, I see they are still $75 for the 2021 version. There are 4 colors available. I wonder what OS comes with these, any ideas?

Amazon.com

I could also wait for the 2019 tablets to come back on sale. I don't need the latest and if I can customize them, I could do that instead.

Edit: It appears they do have refurb 2019 models at $65. That may be the way to go?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Unfortunately, there's no way to do either of those without root. If you have root, you can do either of those with an app.

I have a recent ZTE phone with Android 10 on it and I have it continuously plugged in. I noticed that after about a half a day to a full day, that it will go into a protective mode and discharge itself to about 50% and hover within a few percent of that until you disconnect it. Nice feature. I'm not sure if it's ZTE's or Android's doing.

What you can do is download an app like Battery Charge Notifier from the Playstore and set alerts to keep your battery in the 20% to 80% range.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If you buy the Fire HD 10 (2021) from Amazon, you're likely to get 7.3.2.1 or 7.3.2.2. If you want to avoid 7.3.2.2, don't buy Black because it's their most popular color and will be the newest stocked.

The 2019 tablets will probably not have 7.3.2.2 on them from the store since they aren't being produced any longer. They will probably update to 7.3.2.2 if you don't disable OTA updates though.

Refurbs are a way to go also. They don't put them on sale so you may get new ones cheaper during the holiday season. There's also third party resellers that carry the tablets too. They are most likely to have an earlier version of firmware on them. have a look at Walmart, Best Buy, Target, and those kind of stores. You may find a deal.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's not the firmware that has troubles with Google Play Services, it's the Toolbox that needs to be updated to 25.1. Run the updater that comes with the Toolbox and apply the micropatch. Then Google Play Services will install.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jimnastics:
I'm also on 7.3.2.2 and was able to install Google Playstore etc. fine the manual way without Toolbox, then used Toolbox V25.0 to remove lockscreen ads and disable Shop Amazon and Silk browser. I'm sure other Amazon app disabling works fine as well, even after numerous restarts the disabling is "sticking". The only thing that definitely hasn't worked for me is OTA disabilng, I haven't tried a custom launcher as I'm also fine with Amazon launcher. At the moment it's really not the end of the world if you are on 7.3.2.2, unless custom launcher is your main concern. If another OTA update happens I imagine ads and those apps will come back, but as long as I can re-disable it's fine. The problem will be if an OTA nerfs app disabling completely, then 7.3.2.2+ becomes a problem.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I keep seeing posts about people running v25.0 and using a workaround to install Google Play Services.

The official way to do it is to update the Toolbox! Use the included updater and apply the patch. Then you will have v25.1 which works correctly.

It won't fix 7.3.2.2 problems so it's best not to update to that version if you can avoid it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jimnastics:
Yeah I should have said, I only did Google the manual way as that was the first thing I wanted to do and Google led me that way. I didn't know Toolbox existed until I then went looking for how to disable ads!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mkanet:
All, my brand new Amazon Fire HD (2021) already has Fireos version 7.3.2.2.

Do I need to wait for Toolbox Version 25.2 in order to disable OTA updates? Will there be a new Toolbox version before Fireos updates again to even a newer version?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
For now, you can't disable OTA updates with the Toolbox. FireOS will likely not update again before a new way of disabling updates is found. It appears @Datastream33, the developer, has updated his tablet to 7.3.2.2 in order to work out solutions. I sure hope he has another tablet that's still locked. I'm confident that he will come up with a way to disable OTA's and replace the launcher with the Toolbox. (fingers crossed)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DCvan:
Thank you, the 5 times wrong pattern direct me to login Amazon account (1st time nothing happen, 2nd try allow me to enter new pin).

The v25.0 tool is awesome, I encounter the pin reset error when ask to enter pin but I change to pattern.

Hard factory reset was my last option, great that the above method work!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] riom:
Hi everyone, i've just installed Google Play on my Fire 10 HD using the Toolbox, everything loads fine but if I try to log out of Google Play by selecting "manage accounts on this device", Google Play crashes.

Is there anyway to fix this or does anyone know how i can log out of Google Play?.

Ive tried resetting the device, restored to factory and patched it again, and still crashes.

thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gguerra:
Question is why do you need to log out?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PudJones:
I've done it all manually still the same issue I'm having, none of it works when I get to the Google services part. I'm wanting to put Google play store on my fire HD,
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] riom:
It's a valid query. My answer is because the device is not mine. I am setting it up for someone less tech savvy and needed to test if it works before I give it to them.

The real question is, how much free time do you have that you feel the need to reply with unhelpful waist of time comments on forums?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] riom:
Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gguerra:
Plenty of time, obviously, hence the the quick reply, lol. I'm sitting at the office watching videos type of thing. The google services on the Amazon tablet is a hack to begin with. I don't think it has all the capabilities that a regular Android tablet would have. Some things may not function as expected but hey, you got a reply from the developer and as expected, it may not be possible from the tablet itself...

Oh and not a waste of time, I was just leading up to it. I didn't come and say NOT possible. Now you know.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
See post #7022.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LotharMo:
It seems that the sequence matters ... the word is that with the latest version of the toolbox all this works again .. 25.1 ... but if the tool installed elements 2 and 3 and you install 1 and 4 this will not work. So you may have to reset and start from 0 ... manually or via toolbox 25.1 ... to be on the safe side I would do it manually.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ruvy01:
Everything seemed to work on my new 10 plus running latest Fire OS, except for OTA update blocker and launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pepe_the_Frog:
Hi everyone, just got yesterday my new Fire + 8" so straight after going online it was automatically updated to last version 7.3.2.2 I didn't even check what version was on it from the box. So probably do not go online immediately would be solution. But I installed GooglePlay following this method without any problems, every app from it works fine, also snatched some apps from F-Droid appstore which I also installed.

Today I'll try to work with the Toolbox, let's see...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] user4001:
Don't do what I did yesterday. Spent about 4 hours setting setting everything up - complete amazon debloat and all the rest. Going through every OS setting etc. Looked all good.

Then decided to disable every single thing with amazon in the name and a few others I didn't recognise ever seeing before.

Bingo you got yourself a bootloop. Luckily can do hard factory reset so will go again tonight maybe :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] FireHD10:
Got my Fire HD 10 today and immediately disabled OTA updates but the tablet managed to download the latest update before I could disable wifi. How do I delete the file to make sure it is never applied.

Great app BTW, wouldn't have bought a Fire HD if it wasn't available.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jessejgm:
Disabling Forced OTA.otter.oobe.forced.ota and too much does not solve? I cannot set the new launcher above fire launcher. Does anyone have a definition?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jessejgm:
I disabled these settings in version 7.3.2.2 and when I click on update it closes the settings screen. Wouldn't that be a way?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jimnastics:
@Datastream33 this whole situation reminds me of Facebook stopping people disabling telemetry and updates (and other stuff) of Oculus over ADB, it throws up the exact same "Cannot disable a protected package" error. So someone created an apk to solve the problem. You guys know what you're doing, but in case it helps diggin around here it is:

GitHub - basti564/Oculess: Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices - basti564/Oculess

github.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] john16v:
My new Fire HD 10 plus is running on OS 7.3.1.9? Am I good running V25.2?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jcp2:
yes :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] xdazxcvbnm:
i'm on 7.3.2.2 and manually added google play store. But i can't disable the ad. I ran the tool and it was working. But once I restart, the ad comes back. The only way is to disable the lock screen and there won't be any ad. Anyone have the same issue and know how to fix it? thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] john16v:
Disney plus from Hybrid app is not working. Telling me to register on amazon app but which I don't have access to.

EDIT...NVM side load it from fire toolbox
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] iskeypx:
i just used this and i noticed that i'm not getting any notifications from the apps i installed. is there a fix for this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LotharMo:
Thanks for 15.2 - Nice job. It solves some issues being discussed in the last three pages.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Alot of folks are reporting that the Automate method still works. If you're OK with Automate always running in the background then I'd definetly give it a shot.

;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
My pleasure friend! Just hope we can find a workaround to all this...🤞
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yeah, this has been a long running issue. I believe we chalked it up to the tablets missing components for FCM (Firebase Cloud Messaging), or the tablets not being Play certified. We aren't entirely sure which one. Sorry my friend. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Awesome, glad to see you got it working! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] iskeypx:
damn, that's a bummer. i just bought my fire for communication purposes like discord. worse is, most of the apps i needed aren't available in the amazon appstore at all. lol
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] XRaiderV18:
would the fire toolbox help with stopping my wallpapers getting zoomed in, cropped and pixelated?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bl33ch0r:
Great advise! But could I ask you to explain how to hide the home button in landscape mode? I haven't found this setting in the toolbox, yet.

(Unfortunately, "disabling" the navigation bar in the Modify System Setting / System UI settings works only for the portrait mode).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SnakeLegs:
Sorry if this has been covered before. With a new device how do you avoid the update when setting it up so you can run fire toolkit before the 2.2 update?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Don't connect to wifi when you set it up. When you get to the wifi selection screen, choose any wifi, but don't give it a password. Instead select back and return to the previous screen. A new choice will appear at the bottom: Skip. Then you can finish setup, turn on debugging and run the Toolkit to shut off OTA's.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] aristeia:
So I got a Fire HD 10 today, I watched the YouTube video of how to set up Fire Toolbox and it showed I had to have already logged into the tablet to turn on developer mode so I turned it on to do that. As it was setting up it popped up with "software update 400MB okay?" and I thought "that might be pointless as I'm going to install android anyway but okay, continue". Then tried Fire Toolbox and got the 7.3.2.2 warning. I haven't used the Fire yet so tried restoring to factory settings, update is still there.

tl;dr: got a new fire HD 10, setup installed 7.3.2.2, am I now stuck never being able to use Nova launcher? Reading the comments people seem pretty pessimistic that this has shut a door permanently. As I haven't used if for anything yet if the solution is somehow to fully format it to start again then I'm fine with that but I guess I'm just stuck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] fsardi:
Same here. I have not been able to root the device to install the TWRP bootloader
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If you both just bought them they are returnable. Return them and buy another color, this time not giving it your wifi password, but instead hitting back, and then skip wifi setup until you have turned on debugging and run the toolbox.

Edit: @fsardi - There's no root or TWRP in newer Fire tablets, only ADB commands to disable and manipulate stuff.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] aristeia:
That was my first thought but I bought it from John Lewis with a free Google Nest Hub (which is now OOS). So if I return it I'd have to return that too and then can't repurchase the deal.

EDIT: Never mind. I've been an iOS and not Android user for years anyway. I can live with the Amazon launcher instead and just use the ad removal and Play Store.

Good luck with the cracking of 7.3.2.2
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, that's possible, but you would probably end up with a store credit instead of cash when you return it. There's work being done now to get around 7.3.2.2's blockages. If you can't return it for another one, you can wait to see what workarounds Datastream33 comes up with.
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] st11x:
Hi,

I have searched this thread and tried all the suggestions but I couldn't get notifications working for apps (Gmail, Google Voice). I just got the Fire 10 Plus (2021) a few days back and have installed the Nova Launcher.

I also tried both Shade and Lawn launchers thinking that you wouldn't get notifications unless you get the Nova Prime Launcher.

There is no notification, no badges, no dots, etc when a new email or message comes in.

Thoughts?

thanks

Matt
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] roudy8795:
no poseo dispositivos android conecta ni emulador...aun sigue el error auxilio
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SnakeLegs:
Thank you that worked like a charm 😁
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] AMEHAC:
Just ran Fire Toolbox V25.2 on my new Fire HD 8. Everything went ok. I am running into a problem now trying to get apps from the Play Store. Both Netflix & Hulu do not appear in the appstore. I then tried doing a sideload using APKMirror Installer. Worked ok but Fire says "this device is not supported by the app". I then tried loading Netflix via a Chrome tab. Same message. Is there a workaround?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Keredern:
Hi all!

I'm returning my just-purchased 10 plus as suggested.

I've ordered a new one.

Just wondering if I use the backup I made from the current tablet done via the ToolBox would this cause any issues with the OS update?

I obviously intend to block the update to allow installation of Nova launcher, etc., but not sure if applying the backup would mess this up & allow the Amazon update in!!?

Thanks for any advice. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's never advisable to restore a backup of a later version to an earlier version of an OS. Since you're returning a 7.3.2.2 tablet hoping to get an earlier version and blocking updates, you should just run through it fresh. Besides, you will become more familiar with the toolbox and find things you missed the first time. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Keredern:
Good point!

I will take your advice kind sir/madam. ☺️

Thanks a million for the super quick response!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Plumix:
Happen exactly the same yesterday... but the play store work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rmchair:
Hi, many thanks. I have read a lot. I would like to confirm the following is (still) the case.

(I performed all the recommendations and avoided updates or registering. )

If I want to run the kindle app I would need to register with Amazon. Further, by registering with Amazon the tablet would likely start receiving ads and other bad stuff.

Is this correct?

Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] michel687:
You need Netflix from Amazon app Store, the Google Play version is not compatible anymore.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sbphoto42:
I got mine yesterday and was able to crack it. But then the wife got her today and the Nova launcher doesn't work on hers. I was thinking of doing a backup with my fire tablet backup app inside the Fire toolbox and restoring my backup on her. I wonder if that would work. Both tablets are the same minus the new update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] AMEHAC:
Thanks! Got it and it's working.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If you've already setup the tablet and shut off OTA updates, then you're properly setup. If you disabled Kindle in Manage Amazon Apps in Toolbox, then you'll need to restore it. Also you'll need to enable Shop Amazon so you can sign in. Signing in does not re-enable updates so you don't need to worry about that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The update is what caused the Nova failure. Restoring your backup to hers will not fix it. Sit tight for a little while and there may be a solution for you. Our diligent dev Datastream33 and others are working on this problem.

If I'm misreading and you both have a pre 7.3.2.2 version, yet hers won't accept the replacement launcher, then I would need more information to help. (Fire tablet version and year, OS firmware version, and what you've disabled.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] AJS1986:
Not sure if this will work but I just ordered a Fire 10 plus and unchecked the "Link device to your Amazon account to simplify setup." box so they don't mess with it before it's sent to me. Hopefully that means they won't install the latest update before it leaves the warehouse.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Wolfman1138:
I just got my today and it had 7.3.2.2 installed already. I missed the checkbox and it came with my name in it (and sorta freaked me out at the same time.) Super bummed about that. OTA and no NOVA. I guess I will leave the wireless off until someone comes up with a fix for this. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] newbie33:
Thanks so much for this toolbox! Really made things simple. I just ordered the Fire HD 10 tablet last week and got everything almost working like a stock Android tablet... just a note and few questions though:

- For new people trying to get the TOOLBOX to work with the Fire HD 10 2021... I kept getting an error when trying to use the TOOLBOX for some things. And it turns out the problem was that the tablet was automatically updating the Fire OS. I only learned later that the TOOLBOX will not work with the latest upgraded Fire OS (sorry I can't remember version number, I think it ended in version xxx.xxx.20). At first, I could not stop the tablet automatically trying to update the OS as soon as I registered the tablet, so I would have to factory reset the tablet several times. Then, I just realized I can just disable the WiFi of the tablet after the initial registration, then use the TOOLBOX with the WiFi turned off. This wasn't mentioned in the steps so I thought I would mention it... I know it might be a no brainer but it took me a few factory resets to figure out LOL.

- Question 1: I noticed that the TOOLBOX does not install Google Accounts Manager. I've read somewhere, if you don't user the TOOLBOX, you can side-load the latest Google Accounts Manager, Google Services Framework, Google Play Services, and Google Play Store to be able to download apps from Play Stores. The TOOLBOX seems to install all except the Google Accounts Manager and if you want to manage any google accounts (add or delete) you need to do it via the TOOLBOX instead of the tablet settings directly. Was there a reason for this? Would I be able to side-load Google Accounts Manager separately to manage the accounts from the tablet settings directly?

- Question 2: So I've installed GBoard, the google keyboard, for the tablet. It works fine, all except the voice input on the keyboard. The microphone icon is there and when I press it, it works (like it's listening), however I assume the mic is disable (since nothing types when I speak) via the Fire OS itself when I disabled all the Amazon apps (leaving only a few essentials). I've tried some of the "fixes" that people have written on the net here and there (and obviously, I've allowed mic access on all the GBoard and Google apps). The mic works on the Google search bar via Alexa, but the mic on GBoard just doesn't seem to be working. I also don't see the option to enable "Google Voice Input" on the GBoard settings, but I've enable the "Voice Typing" option in the settings (which seems to do nothing). Is there a way to enable the mic so that it works with GBoard? It's a feature that is quite handy to have and I would like it if possible.

I think that's it for now. I've only been playing with the tablet for a few days so this is all I've noticed. I actually bought it for my mom and I was setting it up for her. The TOOLBOX is nearly perfect but just having those things I've mentioned would make things a lot more convenient... at least the voice input for GBoard anyways since it's such a popular feature. Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gorthon:
Neither of these work, unfortunately. No option to reset password appear on lockscreen, no matter how often I enter a wrong pattern. And the find my device option can't be enabled, clicking it just takes you back to the device settings screen :-(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] 0s1ride:
Have you tried putting the wrong PIN instead (from settings) and check if that makes the option appear in the lockscreen?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gorthon:
Yes, I did, at the security options where it asks you to enter the current pin.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Unchecking that box only means the tablet won't be pre-linked to your account when you receive it. I don't think they even take it out of the box to link it. They probably wave a scanner over it to link it anyway.