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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
You're REALLY ambitious ... must be great fun!

Amazon gets better and better at locking EVERYTHING down ... Thanks, Amazon.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cr08:
Sorry, forgot to include the exact model. This is one of the 2019 models they were selling. I should check what version it was on but I made sure to not let it connect to Wifi before I ran through everything in Fire Toolbox. I'll check that post for good measure though.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
See discussion Post # 9,344 ff re: Custom Navbar
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Various Fire tablet models can run wireless (Bluetooth) game controllers. Not sure of your brand.

Check out Amazon store for controllers compatible with your Fire tablet.

Functions may depend on app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Many be deeper than that. Ref @Jumbo100 post #9,514 for implications
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mydave1:
'Been prepping just in case' -> Music to the ear (y)(y)(y) Thanks.

There were inquiries & replies about alternate tablets to consider. The recommendations were for Samsung or Lenovo which are great, but they would come with their own bloatware and pricey. Check out the new Headwolf HPad 1 Tablet. Pro's: 8 GB ram, IPS 2K screen, 128 GB storage + SD card, beautiful build. Con's: unknown brand, Android 11 with no upgrade guarantee. Just got one and so far so good. Manual attached.

Edit: If there is an iPad killer, this may be it considering the hardware specs. Just need you & XDA developers to breath a new touch to it. Chances are, the manufacturer may offer free sample for your evaluation.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hey! I went to their website and it's $30 cheaper than Amazon's price. Link (The price they show is with the keyboard, but if you select just the tablet it's cheaper.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Android 11 unfortunately, but good enough for now
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Their Fpad1 has Android 12, but only a quad core processor. (BTW, the Hpad1 has Bluetooth 5.0.)

Here's their site. https://www.headwolf.net/

(I wonder about rootability....:unsure: )
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mydave1:
I'm thinking the same ! In the tablet Setting -> Developer Options, there are OEM unlocking (Allow the bootloader to be unlock) and DSU Loader (Load Dynamic System Update Image). Is this it?

There is the Screen Cast icon (which I like), but don't know how to use it. I have smart TV but searching the net all the talks were talking about Chromecast. Confused.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Well to partially answer your questions - Fire tablets have the same OEM unlocking switch in their Developer Options. Just because that switch is there doesn't mean it can be unlocked! From a couple of videos I saw, the second option is sort of a manual OTA update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Starfire-1:
Hey Datastream33!

I followed this portion of the thread with IMustBeNuts from a little over a year ago. I just dusted off a pristine Fire HD8 tablet (2017) and have the exact same problem. Same Fire OS 5.6.0.0. Same error trying to install AmazonDebugger.apk (a diff showed it was the same as in the latest FTK anyway). Trying from a Linux distro just to remove any Windows 11 possibilities.

adb install -r -d AmazonDebugger.apk

Performing Push Install

AmazonDebugger.apk: 1 file pushed, 0 skipped. 173.0 MB/s (13137 bytes in 0.000s)

pkg: /data/local/tmp/AmazonDebugger.apk

Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_MISSING_SHARED_LIBRARY]

I have performed a factory reset, went directly to linux to install and it still fails.

Did you ever resolve this issue? Thanks!

EDIT: Perhaps flashing to a different FireOS5 version? I'll keep looking.... Thanks!

UPDATE: In case it helps someone. I was able to revert back to version 5.3.6.4 (626533320) by booting into recovery, sideloading update-kindle-50.6.2.6_user_626533320.bin, clearing user data, rebooting to the new image. From there I installed AmazonDebugger.apk cleanly and the toolkit worked on Windows 11 and was able to disable OTAs.

I went one step further and repeated the process for the image download directly from Amazon update-kindle-Fire_HD8_7th_Gen-50.6.5.9_user_659662020.bin . This resulted in version 5.7.0.0 (659662020) on which I was also able to install AmazonDebugger.apk from Linux, then switched to the Toolkit on Windows 11 and disabled OTAs.

So there must just be something about 5.6.0.0.

I'm a first time user of this Toolbox, so I'll have to see if everything else works or if I just got through the front door... . I don't want to imply that flashing to another build will work in any or all cases. But at least I can get started.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mydave1:
(I wonder about rootability....:unsure: )

Do you know of any process to test it out ? I'm neither brave nor knowledgeable but may be willing to try & hopefully get answer for all.

However, as a developer yourself, you could get a free unit for your own evaluation. In my experience, I encountered several offers from newly released PC accessories to do same. I'd suggest a try.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Ah, but I'm NOT a developer! Hehehe. Sorry to let you down. I just hang around in developer groups hoping to learn a few things.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
Has anyone found a compatible app that allows casting from hd 10 2021 to a firestick? I tried a couple mentioned here, one being Air Stream, but I had to jump thru hoops to get it to work. Had it functioning for about 5 minutes, then got notification on my screen that my time was up, and wanted to redirect me to a paid version. I also had to download Google Home and had to connect Air Stream thru there. There was one in Amazon appstore called Screen Mirroring that I downloaded to the tablet and the stick. I worked but only video was mirrored no audio, so my search continues.

My old 7" HDX from 2015 had mirroring built in, but as Amazon strives for total control, that feature is no longer available. Talk about a step backwards....:(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Trebrick:
Have the fire HD 10 2021.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Problematic on Fire10 HD (2021). Depends on version of Fire7OS

installed. Amazon apparently locked out some controllers with recent f/w updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Trebrick:
Dang. And yah its on the newest fw
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
A shame .. Amazon is locking out EVERYTING "foreign" ... Thanks, Amazon ...again!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I don't know if this will help anyone, but I couldn't get the @Datastream33 FTB to work on my new HD 8 Plus, which is running 7.3.2.3, so I installed everything I needed manually. Although it's not prefect, it works for me, and I'm using it to write this post. My lockscreen has an Amazon ad, but I can live with it. I have Nova Launcher 6.x installed, because 7.x is incompatible with some of my widget apps. Therefore, I set GPS to not auto update. You'll notice the yellow One Button Navigation button in the attached screenshots Thanks @blaacksheep. I also manually installed Launcher Hijack so I could use Nova. I have 127 apps installed and it sure is a lot faster than my beloved Nexus 7 (2013) tablets. The attached jpgs show the lockscreen, the Amazon Launcher screen that follows after entering my pin on the lockscreen, Nova after tapping the yellow One Button Navigation button, my Google Voice widget, my app drawer, a news feed widget, etc.

I hope @Datastream33 continues his great work on these devices. My hat's off to him. What he has done is way beyond my minor kludge.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You know, you can still get rid of lockscreen ads with the old method by @Datastream33 detailed here.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
"By hook or by crook" you got 'er done . Nice.

2 minor ideas :

1. remove/edit screenshot with phone numbers for personal security/privacy concerns

2. to further distance Amazon intrusion, tun off Continue/Discover from "Home" page
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jerryhou85:
I removed one screenshot with many phone numbers for privacy concern. You can blur it and re-upload it. Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DRei69:
Came back to this as I got some HD Kids 8 version after I last did my HD 10 and worked perfectly (March last year running 7.3.1.2, 2020 build 9th Gen). Seems since then I can no longer disable a whole bunch of stuff and Nova Launcher is no longer working properly.

Is that the case with the new builds or is it because it is a Kids Version? I am thinking now that I should have just got the standard 8 with a kids case and be done with it.

All I wanted was a robust tablet that my toddlers can view YouTube Kids and Netflix on, maybe a video player if I save offline videos. That's it, don't need any games or apps, and it seems they make it pretty hard:)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
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Your situation is a combination Fire OS version and Fire Tablet, Kids editions.

per your Fire HD 10: some FTB functions have been restricted post f/w version 7.3.2.1 . Ref FTB Post #1. Update to current FTB v28.9 and try a refresh of Nova Launcher.

Various reports of Parental Controls/Child Profiles not functioning or "misbehaving" with some FTB installations. May depend on which combination of Amazon "services" were disabled.

Situation exacerbated with Fire, Kid editions since Parental Controls are "baked-in"

Like all of us, you've been caught up in the ongoing Amazon/Google maelstrom. Ref @Jumbo100 post #9,514 for overview of implications.

Fire tablets are marvellous IF you stay within the Amazon "family fold" .

Many of the "brand name" apps have been ported to Amazon Appstore. "Vetted and Approved" . Netflix, Disney Plus are there. VLC for Fire is a reliable media player ported to Appstore. Just none of the Google apps.

Caveat emptor.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
Hi,

I must state that this site : https://www.headwolf.net/ has some interesting products at some pretty good price points. I like how they advertise on their site to make a purchase directly from them because they are cheaper than amazon, and if you do you can get an additional six months of warranty coverage. Now if only I could figure out how to get them to send me a tablet of some kind for evaluation purposes. I'm not a developer either so I'm probably out of luck.

David
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Already sent out to all the "name" tech influencers/reviewers.

Check out YouTube/Google. Not bad for an new product from "unknowns" in a very competitive market.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
While of course I truly appreciate and as well as grateful for all of the efforts put forth by the developer of this project, it seems like amazon continues to do things to their firmware to make it more difficult for the fire toolbox to do what it was intended to do. It's such a shame when big corporations like them try to make things difficult for people who are owners of one of their products.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Don't take it so personally ... It's Amazon! Check @Jumbo100 post #9,514 to get an overview of how scary it can get. It's already happening with FireOS 8.

You own the hardware, they own the software OS ... Nothing new.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mayog:
Device: Amazon Fire HD 8/8+ (2020)

Codename: onyx

FireOS Version: 7.3.1.7

Android Version: 9.0

Security Patch: 2018-10-05

Chipset: MT8168

Hello, i try to get youtube running on this device. When i enable/disable the Amazon Youtube App in Toolbox nothing happens.

Youtube.xapk couldn`t be sideloaded.

Any advice how to get Youtube working?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Trebrick:
Not to bring it up again but im here looking at all these Ps3 controllers collecting dust wishing to be used on firedhd 10 and retroarch. So sad lol
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Sounds like a wonky (corrupted) GPS install.

SOP: Set OTA Updates=OFF . Update Fire Toolbox . Reinstall Google Play Services. Install YouTube from Google Play Store.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Try downloading the YouTube APK from ApkMirror, and sideload it via the Sideload Apps tool in the Toolbox. That should do the trick!

Please let us know how it goes and best of luck! :D🤞
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, looked into rooting methods and they all recommend pulling the boot.img, patching it with Magisk, and flashing it via fastboot to get systemless root. Can't varify that it would work though...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Najatski596:
It can be a little difficult for some tablets, but it is really worth it if you can figure it out.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Krarie:
Hello! I recently got a Kindle that I'll be giving as a gift, it has the correct OS (7.3.2.1), and I already did all the basic setups with the launcher, disabling OTA, google, etc, but they will be using the kindle book store and will also want to control smart devices. If I enabled the Goodreads, kindle store, ods.kindleconnect, device dashboard, along with basic prime video/shopping/photos, would it be safe to give it to them, have them connect to the internet/their amazon account, and never have to worry about them accidently updating on their own somehow? I have a tablet of my own I did everything on, but I've never used any of the Amazon services so I never had to worry. Thanks in advance!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] alexo2035:
[EDITED]

Hello, I have a Fire HD 8 from 2017, it has all the customizing I did from XDA forum, got rid of everything , I even called Amazon USA (I am in South America) and had a nice talk with an operator which took my ad lock screen off ( I followed instructions from XDA as to how and what to ask for), so my Fire 8 experience has been excellent.

I am receiving a brand new Fire HD 10.1 2021 just today, I wanted to do an upgrade for visuals as I do a lot of reading on it.

I would like to ask if it is advisable to unregister my Fire 8 before I do all the Tollbox thing on the new 10. I remember registering even I didnt buy from Amazon. I never used the 8 for any kind of transaction with the Amazon store, anyhow the tablet is recognized when I browse the store.

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Fortunately the Fire HD 10 2021 arrived with 7.3.2.1 version so I did all the Toolkit thing, so easy I must say, I appreciate the work that has been put into this app and all the forum support you provide, if I can find a way to collaborate with the project ( in Argentina we are not allowed to send whatever money outside, nor use any service like PayPal..) I will surely do. Thank you very much.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kyn1972:
SOooo dusted off my 2019 Kindle Fire 10 and updated it to the latest version of the kindle OS thinking I could use the Fire Toolbox to disable the launcher and found out it will not work *sigh*

I tried varies things to no avail so my question now is until Toolbox is updated to address the problem is there a way to atleast remove the godawful Discover bar above the installed apps?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] batt[o]:
So, I had and old 5th gen fire 7 think so, 2015?

And I had used the fire tool before.

I wanted to reset it to default erase everything and start all over.

I did.

But now, when I try to connect the tablet to the new version of Fire tool, it crashes and won't allow me to install googleplay or any new apps and stuff. (the reason why I wanted to use the new firetool version)

Any leads?

EDIT:

I Now see some NET framework flash error before crashing.

Windows 10, latest update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dcooterfrog:
And now it not working again. About t days after the reset.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Oh no! ... Again?' I'm seeing a pattern.

Previously we observed that "Amazon for Tablets" (AfT) is the offending app.

Also we surmised that Amazon Shopping (AS) and AfT must be both synched (in terms of updates) to work.

You went to the extreme of factory resetting your tablet ... so at least you could shop using Amazon Shopping app again (LOL!). From your reset AS and AfT were re-synched.

Here's the incidious part. I don't recall ever installing AfT from GPS and definitely would have known about if since it is part of my Google Play Store app inventory; it is also not on Amazon Appstore and not listed as FireOS "system" app.

So (possibly) , Amazon is using AfT as a "trojan horse" or "sleeper bomb" app to "trap" tablet owners who dared to install GPS to ensure "integrity" of FireOS.

Your problem resurfaced again, when Amazon updated AfT on July 28. Out of synch again ?

Since AS and AfT are both available on GPS it's easy for Amazon to "inconvenience" non-complying FireOS tablets.

"Conspiracy" ... No, just the Amazon way of doing business ... for your safety, don't you know.

I'm not a heavy dev; this is just user conjecture. Hope I'm wrong.

Ongoing saga.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dcooterfrog:
I went an installed an amazon for tablets from OUTSIDE THE PLAYT STORE, (i know untrusted source etc) )to be honest its just a trial. it says its A GPS version, but it did install. its possible it's a version for amazon for tablets that is an official version that does not check to see if you have a fire tablet or something because it doesn't use play store to ensure you get the right /wrong version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nickelnine:
I got my Fire 8 tablet and was excited to follow this guide but I went too far and connected to my WiFi and am now on the Register screen. Is there a way to back out and start again or still enable the debugging if I complete the Registration?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Curiouser and curiouser.

Let me get this straight:

1. Amazon for Tablets works on other "real" Android tablets installed from GPS

2. AfT is developed by Amazon and hosted on GPS and is freely available

3. AfT does works on "unmodified" Fire tablets

4. AfT from GPS currently does NOT work on your Fire tablet with OTA=Disabled from Fire Toolbox

5. AfT installed from non-GPS source DOES work on your Fire tablet

6. AfT APK is widely available on apkmirror.com et al (APK presumed "authentic")

7. AtF works on Fire tablets using sideloaded Google Play Services (ie not using Fire Toolbox)

So is Amazon actively checking for OTA=Disabled flag and not necessarily GPS in general? Worse, is Amazon checking for a Fire Toolbox "fingerpint" ? Is Amazon singling-out Fire Toolbox and @Datastream33 ?!

Or is it just simple update clash?

Regardless, Amazon/FireOS IS snooping. Thanks, Amazon ... again.

Comments please.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
You're very generous ... I love sending and being gifted with tech presents.

You're in an interesting situation. You have obviously gone the "full Android" route and used FTB to "depopulate" Amazon from your Fire tablet. Great that it works for you.

From your description, though, your giftee will be almost entirely "Amazon-centric". Especially Kindle. So you have to ask "is it really necessary to install GPS and GPS apps at all ?".

A couple of points.

Did you know that Amazon has recemntly STOPPED selling Kindle e-books from Kindle for Android (ie Kindle app from GPS) ? Effective June 1. If you want Kindle e-books, have to buy ONLY from Amazon "branded" Kindle which is "hardwired" into FireOS. Something about Amazon not wanting to pay Goggle "commission" for sales through GPS apps. Up to 30% ! Restrictions also apply to Music purchases More tightening of Amazon's grip.

Most of the "brand name" apps like Facebook, Netflix, Disney have ported to Amazon Appstore ... just not most of the Google portfolio.

Also there is no permanent "kill switch" funtt!ion in FTB to stop OTA. So many posts from users who accidently/unintentionally triggered an OTA update and ruined their FTB setup.

I'm using a "hybrid" approach on my Fire HD10, using both "native" Amazon app (like Amazon Shopping, Kindle, Prime Music) and GPS for all other apps.

So far I have been able to "firewall" Amazon Appstore from Google Play Store... so far.

Bottom line ... Will the potential hastles from FTB mod really benefit your giftee ? ... I hate it when tech gifts stop working.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] i.REN:
I'm also experiencing this issue, with both my 2019 Fire 7 and my 2021 Fire HD 10 and the AfT apk from apkmirror won't install on my 10.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Soundnsi like this may be a "hard nut to crack"

To confirm failure , have you tried boith to install AfT latest update through FTB and by direct sideloading?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dcooterfrog:
My hd 10 did the same thing today....

apkmirror.com AFT works just fine
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Great ... Hope the "fix" sticks!! Keep us posted.

Interesting that apkmirror.com current AfT APK and Google Play Store now have the same version number.

Still confused ... Why GPS update "breaks" app but direct sideloading doesn't.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
Once you are back I would recommend with 2017 models to not remove fire launcher. Use hijacker to set your chosen launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] klausb65:
Thanks DataStream for your great work
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
My pleasure my good sir! :D

Thank you for your patience and support!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kigekia:
How do I intall the parental control hider? I installed it with the toolbox but the message still appears. It says in the toolbox something about accessibility? No idea what that is or where I find it. Some kind of tutorial appears for a split second in the toolbox but no way I can read all that in such a short time. Any help?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok. so after using the Parental Control Hide tool you want to go to your device's settings. I'm not sure what version of FireOS you are on but you need to look for Accessibility inside your settings app. Then in Accessibility, you will find under services "ParentalControlHide" and this needs to be toggled on. This will then start the service and the Parental Control messages should no longer appear. Please let me know if you need further help. Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] qwerty3656:
Can someone walk me through how I go about renaming devicesoftwareota.apk?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] CompuGenius Programs:
I can't set my wallpaper!

Since I disabled all Amazon apps, and installed WallChanger, now I can't set my wallpaper cause it's "BLocked by Parental Controls". Thing is, I disabled parental control messages as well! I'm resetting the amazon apps, but please fix this!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
The disable parental messages just autopsies the message. Doesn't stop the reason for it in the first place.

I'm going to guess you have a 2017 model. Don't disable fire launcher. Use hijacker to set your desired launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] CompuGenius Programs:
I didn't remove the fire launcher on purpose. But I figured it out, I just have to manually select what I want to remove. Thanks anyway!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] qwerty3656:
Has anyone had any problems playing prime video after using this tool? Prime videos were skipping/studering on new fire 8 HD. I was planning on returning it and so did a factory reset and skipping/studering went away.