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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] protoman2:
Hi. So um I used Fire Toolbox last night for my new Fire 8 Plus in terms of adding a launcher and disabling the stock launcher however when doing so with Nova Launcher it seems it does not want to be stuck to Nova by default and still be still on have Fire launcher. Any fixes for this or something I'm doing wrong?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Most likely it either came with fireOS v7.3.2.2, or it updated to that as soon as you gave it access to your wifi. There's nothing to do but wait, now. Those problems only occur on the new firmware and fixing them is a work in progress.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] protoman2:
Okie thanks for the info. Guess I'll live with it for now until all the kinks are fixed in the next version
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SLYDER2002:
Hey Guys,

i bought the fire hd 10 and deactivated the OTA Update before connecting to wifi. Then i loaded the Toolbox 25.2 and deactivated the Ads on the Lockscreen. It works perfectly - Thanks for this great toolbox

But now the Lockscreen and the keyboard is not in center of the screen. -> See Attechment

Do you have any tipps how i can fix it?

Thanks for your help :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kenchinito:
Hello there, thanks for the amazing tool. Does it remove ads in general from the tablet? I'm trying to play some games that gives me points by watching an ad but the ad never loads. TBH I never used it without the modifications made by the toolbox so I can't say if the games would've worked before it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pheno.menon:
How can I get Google Chat to work on the tablet? Is there a required service I might be missing from using Fire Toolbox and ticking some of the options in there?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That sounds like you're running a DNS level ad blocking service for your browser, but besides blocking ads in your browser, it blocks them in all your apps. It would show up as a VPN. (Like DNS66.) Just disable it when you want to run your games.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] vasishta.sushant:
I also noticed that the OTA updates toggle switch doesn't work anymore.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DCvan:
Using the fire toolbox, I've changed the pin to pattern and with that I can't do soft factory reset. It ask to enter pin but the pin is replaced with pattern.

In my case, I used the 5x incorrect login from lockscreen. Purposely put in 5 wrong pattern continuously, sometimes mixed in with press back on-screen button. I believed I alternate between wrong pattern and on-screen back button and it took me to Amazon and ask to login to my Amazon account with that it show a screen with reset pin option.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gorthon:
This actually worked, thank you so much!! The trick is to do several tries, hit the back button, then do several (I did more than 5) tries again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SLYDER2002:
Hi,

i tryed to set the Default Density but it also was on 240. So there was no changing. Next step i tryed to change the Density but there was no optimal setting.

It looks like the screen with the apps is in center but the keyboard and the Date on the Lockscreen isn´t it.

Can somebody tell me for what is the "Animation scale" in "Modify System Settings" maybe i changed there something when i deactivated the OTA Update.

Thanks for your Help
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thering1975:
Just wanted to check, i understand the issues with certain features not working in the latest fire os update, but wanted to confirm Google Play and installing apps via there or sideload is still working?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thorrrr:
HI just trying to add Fire Toolbox V25.2 to a brand-new Fire Tab 10 Ver 11.

I cannot remove ads no option?

Also it errors trying to add Google Service i have tried 3 Pc's all throw erorr messages?????

See below i was hoping it would be easier than this
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thorrrr:
My tablet came pre installed with 7.3.22 and the toolkit didn’t warn me till after full setup
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
Yeah, the Toolbox doesn't warn you not to update until after it goes through the full setup. Thankfully, I read through the forum here first and started noticing the issues. Then, I look at my tablet, and it had already updated... Guess I'll have to wait until the Toolbox has been updated to work with it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
Same thing happened to me. The thing updated by itself, didn't ask me first, nothing. Just got a notification that it had updated.. Damnit, man.

EDIT • So, I have another one of these coming in that's supposed to go to my dad. I'm gonna give them this one, as it's already updated, and when I get the next one, I'm gonna keep WIFI disabled until I can get through the Toolbox setup properly. Amazon!! *shakes fist angrily*

I'm hoping, though, that someone finds a way to get all of this working on the latest version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SLYDER2002:
Hey,

there is no positive support from Amazon. Just said loading update... And this i won't because then the toolbox is not working anymore. Firmware is 7.3.19 now. And i don't want to update to 7.3.2.2

Somebody any ideas how i can handle the problem?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I would suggest trying another keyboard like Gboard. I forgot if it's in the toolbox or not, but it's in the Playstore. I downloaded it from the Playstore and it works fine on 7.3.1.2.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SLYDER2002:
The Keyboard is in the toolbox and i installed it. It looks better but the keyboard isn't again in the center of the screen. Also the Time on the Lockscreen and the Navigationbar. -> see Foto.

I don´t know where is the problem. :/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SLYDER2002:
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I solved the problem. In Toolbox the Navigationbar was disabled. So i enabled it and now it`s working fine.

Thanks guys :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] soul_vice:
Planning to help a friend install Google Play Store in the next day or so. I believe he has a Amazon Fire 10 (2017) device.

If he already has the latest 7.3.22 update, will this be a problem if this is the only modification that he wants to make?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
You can install Play Store without this Toolbox if you're already on 7.3.22. It's very easy, just make sure you download the correct files for his generation and version. I did it on my dad's tablet using the "howtogeek" website instructions. Just go to settings > Security and Privacy > Apps from unknown sources > Silk Browser > enable "Allow from this source".

Then load the Silk Browser and search for the following exactly, quotes included, as I'm not sure I can link directly to that here: "how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-your-amazon-fire-tablet" and it should bring up the "howtogeek" website. Any apps you download through the Silk Browser can now be side-loaded.

Follow the instructions from the website from there on out.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ancienttyrael:
Just got mine in today on version 7.3.1.9

Be sure to check that little checkbox isn't filled in when you guys order:

100% Amazon will update it for you otherwise.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
I didn't deselect that, but I'll have to just disable my WIFI when setting it up. The other I ordered had it selected too, and it wasn't updated yet, but it did connect to my WIFI immediately and start updating.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
For those getting new units,

DO NOT

connect to wifi until after you've debloated it, else you be up sh!t's creek.

Pick any wifi available, do not enter password, tap back, you should now be able to bypass setup.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The important thing is not deselecting that box. What's important is to not give it access to wifi until you disable OTA's with the Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ancienttyrael:
Maybe I should elaborate on that as I have had two fire tablets in front of me to setup one I purchased and one from a relative's. Mine came in without that checkbox and was still residing on the older Fire OS. Switching over to my relative's tablet they had their information filled in and their tablet was already updated to 7.3.2.2 even without internet services.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TMW1996:
Hey Guys,

So I did the 7.3.2.2 Update......

Is there any way to downgrade back to 7.3.1.9

In Recovery i cant finde the adb sideload button......

I Have the Fire Tablet 10 11th Generation

Sorry for my bad english,,,,,,
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ToniBratello:
I´m still waiting on my fire hd and just watched a couple of youtube videos. It seems like you have to set up wifi to finish the first setup of the device to get to the device settings to enable usb debuging in developer options. How do you block OTA on fire toolbox if usb debugging isn´t enabled?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lewmur:
The micro usb socket on my Fire HD 10 7th is bad. It will charge but not connect to PC, so I can't use the Toolbox. Can some give me a link to the apks I need to manually install Play Store?

edit: nevermind. I found them.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
That was just explained on the last page:

"For those getting new units,

DO NOT

connect to wifi until after you've debloated it, else you be up sh!t's creek.

Pick any wifi available, do not enter password, tap back, you should now be able to bypass setup."

Issues arise when or if you already have an Amazon device, like an Echo or a DOT that knows your WIFI password, and you leave the option checked on the purchase screen for the device to be shipped to you with your account information already applied. If this option is checked, then the tablet will be shipped to you with your WIFI password already known, and it will immediately connect to WIFI the moment you start setting it up.

The way around this is to disable your WIFI while you're going through setup, and then don't turn it back on until you've gone through setup and told it not to pull passwords from Amazon.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
from post #7060:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TMW1996:
And If it did the Update, could you downgrade the Tablet???
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
No
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
@Falcon342 What we really need is a fastboot or edl system image. Then it should be possible to restore this to any fw version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slimshiesty:
Wish i had read these forums earlier today.

New member here. Lenovo yoga 10 just let me know last night that none of my streaming services are supported now.

Saw the ETA Prime vid on FTB, bought a fire HD 10 2021v.

it updated after signing into wifi... HaHa! should have read first.

So, returning to best buy, do the wifi skip method, and be back on tomorrow night.

Thanks for all the info here, be back soon!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mikedcracker:
Didn't know about this issue but thought of updating my new HD 10 2021 it before using the toolbox only to realize that there are issues with the latest version. Now I'm stuck with their stale launcher.

Can someone please tell me if there are any other issues with the latest update and toolbox other than OTA updates can't be disabled and can't install any new launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

I'm sorry to hear about the update my friend. :(

While testing it seems that everything else in the Toolbox is still functional... as far as I could tell. However, if you do come across something that doesn't work please do let us know. Thanks! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
I read a few pages back about the lack of notifications after installing Google services through the toolbox . I'm on 7.3.1.9 and I'm getting random Gmail notifications , for some reason they seem to appear if I leave the Gmail or the playstore running in the background . Not much help I know but it's a start 😃
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
That's strange. I installed Google services and Play Store manually and still have notifications, with no issues there. But my tablet updated automatically on setup because it already had my WIFI password, so I had to order another one. Gonna give this one to my dad.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] A-ERO:
Unfortunately I was not aware the latest update would break the 'disable OTA/Fire Launcher' feature. I bought a fire HD 10, and updated after setting it up.. Now, changing launcher is not possible and turning off bloatware or ads would cause them to magically appear after several hours (I assume the system is updating itself again). Unfortunately, returning the tablet is not really an option since I bought it abroad from a store while traveling. Any news on an updated Fire Toolbox, and when/if it can be released?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] greatstuffuk:
Can anyone confirm that downloading this file will not ever invoke any spyware on my laptop or the fire device?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
We should start a poll to see how many got the fire 10 in the black Friday sales 😄

I'm not that bothered with notifications anyway , just funny how some are getting them ,some are not . Plus is it worth installing YouTube vanced ? What's the benefits over the normal app ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
There's no spyware or malware in the Toolbox software when downloaded from this forum, at least in my experience. No one can guarantee anything, but I've not seen anyone complain of it, nor have I had any issues with it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TMW1996:
On youtube vanced, you dont have any ads.

And you can have Background Playback ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TMW1996:
so....

I aked Amazon Suppot to disable the Ads on my Screensaver. They did it for free.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] The_Gadget_Dude:
Great info in the last few pages, my HD 10+ is arriving today to replace my existing Gen 7 HD 10.

Simple question, if I do disable OTA updates now I assume I can turn them back on down the road if I want to?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TMW1996:
Yes you can ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] D2Enochs:
I purchased my Fire tablet 10 plus on Black Friday 2021 and received it this past Sunday. It came with 7.3.2.2 and even with a factory reset it reinstalled with 7.3.2.2. I went ahead and modified my tablet with fire toolbox knowing that it might not be 100% perfect. What did I have to lose... I can just do another reimage, right, no big deal (which I have done three times). There are three major issues having version 7.3.2.2 and using fire toolbox:

1) I could not disable OTA updates. Because of this the next two do not "stick"...

2) novia launcher. Actually none of the launchers stick. But I like novia the best. It's not a game changer because I can always click the novia app and it goes back to the novia configuration. But again you have to click it each time it goes back to the fire launcher.

3) lock screen ads. Even though I removed lock screen ads they still come back after a while. I initially was connecting my tablet to my PC and disabling Lock Street ads through the fire toolbox again and again and again, but that got annoying so I just deal with it.

Again none of this is a game changer but I thought I'd make everybody aware that if you got a newer 10 or 10 plus tablet you're getting version 7.3.2.2 and cannot go backwards with it that I can figure out.

Thanks in advance!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] D2Enochs:
Where do I locate disabling the "Special Offers" app? In my Amazon Account or with the FIre Tablet?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cml.snc:
In the toolbox "Manage amazon app" "advanced mode"" somewhere

Guy's I'm installing "youtube vanced" do you grand root permission or not what's the difference..??

OK... installed noroot I don't want system files been modify
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Just install the non-root version. We don't have root on most Fire tablets so the root application won't function as intended.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] WillysJeepMan:
Just bought a 2019 Fire 7. It was at 7.3.2.2. The only way that I found to make the lockscreen ads go away was to disable the lockscreen itself. It's been 5 days and a few reboots and no ads have appeared. I hope this is helpful.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gguerra:
I just received Qty 8 Refurb HD 10's (2019 models). I opened the first one up knowing about the recent developments.

These are the Basic steps I took. I did check and OS was at 7.3.1.9.

1. Don't connect to Wifi, cancel setup

2. Open Settings, device options, about fire tablet, tap serial number repeatedly to enable developer options

3. turn ON developer options and USB debugging

4. Run Fire Toolbox, update to latest if necessary

5. From the toolbox, Disable Amazon apps, I prefer manual here because I leave the Amazon Keyboard

6. Side load a launcher, I use Nova Prime, you can use the one that comes with toolbox

7. Install Google Services

8. Connect to Wifi

9. Wait 10 to 15 minutes for google services to update, don't know if this is necessary

10. Login into google

Anything after this would be your choice. I also always disable the lock screen and ads.

For my purposes, I did NOT login to Amazon. I don't use any Amazon apps at all. I realize many will need to login to Amazon to link to their own account. Don't know if this will prevent OTA updates in the future

When I first turned it on, I did check the OS version and it was at 7.3.1.19, Now, I notice and this may be normal, when I go into settings, device options, system updates, it does nothing. It kicks me back out to the main settings screen but I can pretty much confirm it is not updating the OS or my home screen which I customized.

I restarted it once, the changes I have made remain intact. Time will tell.

Hope this helps someone.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ToniBratello:
is it safe to use amazon shopping app and amazon prime video after changing stuff with fire toolbox?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] brosephhstalin:
Thank you so much for this tool! One problem I'm having though, is syncing up my google drive. The google family seems to have a hard time keeping me logged in, and after going through setup there was a message about waiting 10 or so minutes before logging in.

I feel like I must have done something wrong. Do I let it sit on the google screen for 10 minutes, or just wait 10 minutes after finishing initial toolbox changes? Anybody have any ideas?

Again, thank you so much for this tool!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Heart1010:
I still have a Fire HD 8 (7. gen) for my kids - I now it's old but is there 'method' I can or should use from this toolbox here so I can optimize this Fire HD 8 to a run 'faster'. It really got laggy after the years - opening a game or simply open the silk browser takes really long.

Any other tips regarding speeding it up are welcomed also. Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] geearf:
Is it feasible only in toolbox? Till the update I could do it with adb. (I don't use Windows so I can't use this yet.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gameinn:
I ordered a Fire 10 Plus tablet 11th gen (with ads version) since I thought this toolbox would make paying the extra for no ads not necessary. Reading this thread it seems to not be the case?

Should I wait on trying this toolbox to disable ads till a new version or something?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yup. It's completely safe to use those and other Amazon apps after the Toolbox. As a matter of fact, I recommend leaving Shop Amazon enabled just so you can use it to sign in to Amazon so the other apps work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Because Fire tablets aren't Google Certified, it's a bodge just putting Google Services on a Fire tablet. Most of the problems that do arise are problems stemming from Google Services, so it's not a surprise that Google Drive isn't working as expected. I use a third party file manager that accesses Google Drive, Onedrive, and Dropbox. They all work fine in the app because it doesn't use Google Services.

The 10 minute wait is for Google Services to update itself to the most current version for your tablet. It happens in the background so you just need to leave it connected to wifi and not open anything Google for 10 minutes. I just close everything out and go get a coffee.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Well, the first thing I'd do would be to check if they've already updated themselves to 7.3.2.2. (They probably have, so you'll be limited in what you can do.) To speed them up, I'd recommend a factory reset, followed by disabling OTA updates (if possible), Amazon debloat, Launcher replacement (if possible), remove Lockscreen Ads and install Google Services. Then install the absolute minimum of apps that you actually use. The more aps you have, the slower it gets.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
No, you can use the manual ADB commands. The Toolbox just makes it easier for non CLI users to set it up with a few clicks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It should still work, but you'll have to make sure it can't connect to your wifi when it's turned on. If you didn't uncheck the box to automatically associate the tablet with your Amazon account, it may already know your wifi password and immediately start downloading the update that causes the problems. You can unplug your router for a few minutes to prevent that and tell the tablet to forget the wifi password. Then set the tablet up and activate USB debugging so you can use the Toolbox. Disable OTA updates and whatever else you want to do.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pixelpop:
Any update on getting Toolbox to overcome the OTA and launcher issues?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] spaceoden:
If you don't register your tablet and don't log in to your amazon account, you won't be shown any ads.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] The_Gadget_Dude:
I can confirm the Toolkit worked great on a brand new 10 HD+ even though it was auto-linked to my Amazon account before shipping. I was a bit extra careful, temporarily changed the passwords on my wifi router so it wouldn't connect, verified it shipped with 7.3.1.9, got OTA updated turned off and the rest went smoothly.

A few questions:

Registering it vs leaving it unregistered? On my previous Gen 7 10 HD I had just been using the standard Fire launcher but did install Google Services manually so I could access the Play app store and the device was still registered with Amazon. This time following the Toolkit instructions I end up with an really clean device but un-registered. What about access to things like Prime Video? I went ahead and let the Toolkit "de-bloat" using the default settings and after the fact realized it hid/removed a few things I may still want. Added Prime Video back but it says I'm not logged in - am I still suppose to officially register it if I want access to select Amazon services?

One last little thing - I own Nova Prime from previous Android devices so went ahead and switch to Nova via the Toolkit - worked great but a little thing I don't recall seeing before and can't seem to find anything via Google. There is a little icon in the lower left corner that looks like a "home" with two sliders. I assumed it would be to get to the quick settings but it doesn't do anything - it's on my home screens and lock screen. Is that a Nova thing that I need to configure?

Thanks