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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jdcma:
@Datastream33, thank you for the quick response! I would very much appreciate the links and instructions for my tablet. Also if it isn't too much trouble I have one other question.

After disabling OTA updates and lock screen ads, and downloading the nova launcher, I can no longer view pictures I've take (it says they are blocked by parental controls), or add gifs/emojis to facebook messenger (I'm sure there are other similar issues but I havent had time to investigate further). Do you know what might be causing this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Anecdotal report that Google Play working on 12th Gen Fire tablet with FireOS 8.3.1.3 OTA update released this week.

Can anyone confirm ?

How to Install the Google Play Store on an Amazon Fire Tablet

You're not stuck with the Amazon App Store.

www.howtogeek.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Good find!

Hmm... so it needs phone and sms permissions manually applied. I hope someone with a 2022 tablet sees this and tries it out. That would be great for FireOS 8 owners.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Is it a coincidence that a "hole" in FiresOS 8 appears in the same week that Amazon announced a reorganization and "dehiring" of software devs in the Amazon Devices group ?

Amazon Is Said to Plan to Lay Off Thousands of Employees

The job cuts of approximately 10,000, which would start as soon as this week, would focus on the company’s devices organization, retail division and human resources.

www.nytimes.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I remember reading somewhere that Google was going to remove modifying the navigation bar via adb in Android 11. There may be some merit to that... :(

@drovan, could you please try running these commands in an ADB Shell and let me know the output of the second command?

settings put secure sysui_nav_bar 'left,;back,home,recent;right'

settings get secure sysui_nav_bar
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, the Toolbox should be granting all permissions declared in the manifest automatically. However, I suppose it is installing the Android 10 versions instead... 🤔

But, why would GServices crash without the phone and sms permissions?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
I think there is "something" in FireOS 8.3.1.3 that "allows" GPS to run.

Apparently some 12 th Gen Fire tablet users "spontaneously" had their Google Play installations working after the OTA update ... anecdotal.

Is Amazon "softening" or was it a coding error ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Sorry for the late response, my friend. Got caught up in something and was just able to get back on. Anyway, here's how to manually add the play services .apks for the Toolbox to install them:

Open the Toolbox.

Click the cog in the upper right-hand corner.

Click the "About" tab.

Then click "Open Installation Directory".

In File Explorer, click the "bin" subdirectory, then the "Google Services" subdirectory.

Create a new folder and name it "Android 9 (x32)" (if the folder is already made, delete it and re-create it). The directory structure should look like this: Fire Toolbox V30.0\bin\Google Services\Android 9 (x32).

Download this .zip file, and extract it into the folder you just made (there should be 4 .apk files in the directory after extracting).

Delete the .7z archive from the folder (if present).

Re-run the toolbox and execute the Custom Launcher tool.

That should do the trick. The Toolbox should detect the .apk files we just extracted, and skip the download process... leading to the installation step. If you need any further help or have any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Best of luck, my friend!

As for the picture issue, you may need to enable Prime Photos again if it's been disabled (Use the Manage Amazon Apps > Simple subtool to re-enable it if it's been disabled). The OS shows messages from Parental Controls if an activity isn't able to be launched, or intents aren't handled by a compatible app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, that's not good... :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
From the error message I've seen, it looked to be some sort of policy. Perhaps Amazon is developing an Android Auto substitute and was testing it out, or perhaps something was wrong with the play store files, and they were updated to fix the error (and the OTA was a coincidence). Not sure, but I doubt (in my opinion, and I could be wrong) Amazon would revert changes like that. They and Google don't play well, and play services aren't supposed to running on Fire Tablets anyway. So I could totally see them trying to shut it down.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Almost. The only thing missing is the ability to disable system apps... but I don't think anything can be done about that. At least not with ADB.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JumpingJack123:
Hello folks, new user here. I'm thinking of getting a Fire HD 10 (11 gen) because it's on sale right now. I'm not a fan of Amazon's data collecting, so could you please tell me if the Toolbox can:

stop the Fire HD 10 from "phoning home" (both for OTA updates and userdata collection)

Google Services are fully functional and

lockscreen and homescreen ads can be removed completely

(assuming it ships with 7.3.2.2+)

Furthermore, is this notification in the OP still relevant with v30 or has this changed?

Also, from what I can tell the Fire HD does not have GPS capabilities, so does navigation with e.g. Google Maps not work at all?

I tried to read through the thread beforehand but I'm not sure which information is still up-to-date and there's a lot of pages to cover.

I've never owned a tablet before and was hoping the Fire HD10 can be a decent all-purpose tablet (movies, browsing, reading PDFs etc) but I absolutely wish to remove any unncessary Amazon bloatware if possible. Are there any issues with using the Fire HD without an Amazon account connected?

Thanks for any help!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wilver:
And today I woke up to find the nice notification that it have been updated to 7.3.2.6 ಠ_ಠ

Boy oh boy, I hate jeff bezos -_-

Btw I've disabled the update blocker , I needed to use drive.

Update: Tried to disable again OTA with the tool box and cant download from google drive again D:. I don't know if it is related, but it tries to download with the download manager that comes with the Fire OS. When I download files on drive from chrome drive it works.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] philcsf:
Thanks for the update.

Currently on 7.3.2.1 on a Fire HD 10 (2021), and would like to allow OTA updates again now that we have better support for lockscreen disabling, etc., but don't seem to be able to re-enable via the latest version of Fire Toolbox? Toggle within 'Modify System Settings' does nothing when clicked.

Edit: Another minor bug, desktop shortcut being created on each boot still says "V29.2" :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wilver:
I was messing up with the tool box files and fixed the small home button problem! Just put the attached file on the patch where you installed your Tool Box "bin\ToolboxResources\Images\UI\NavigationBar"

Doesnt solve my google drive problem, but at least it doens't botter my OCD anymore :v
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wilver:
stop the Fire HD 10 from "phoning home" (both for OTA updates and userdata collection)

- Its still not perfect if you are on 7.3.2.2+

Google Services are fully functional

- Yup, works like a charm with all my accounts (edit: if you don't use/enable the new OTA block method)

lockscreen and homescreen ads can be removed completely

- Well, I really can't tell for sure, because I changed the launcher and with that the lock and homescreen ads are not there anymore. But I can't tell you if it works like that on Fire Default Launcher.

I don't know about GPS cause I don't use mine for it, just for reading and marking texts.

Yep, I disabled all Fire apps with the ToolBox, but if it updates by itsefl (lets say to 7.3.2.6 like happened to me this morning) they will be reenabled. The good news is that It's solved just as simple as connect the tablet to pc and running the function on tool box again. My only concern now is that new updates can come with new surprises and the amazon dev team cut our wings D:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ghoster76:
Lol, after a night it auto updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Excellent guide ... but I wouldn't have expected anything less from @blaacksheep !

wrt FTB protocol, would you still recommend using FTB OTA blocking then applying RethinkDNS, or using RethinkDNS exclusively ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That depends on what you want. From what I've seen, there are problems with the Toolbox blocking some other services that you may need. The RethinkDNS method does appear to work without any problems, but then I haven't tried every possible thing that it could conflict with. If you use just the 4 blocks I list, it doesn't appear to cause any difficulties with anything else. If you don't mess with the DNS settings or just use Cloudflare, it seems to work great.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slarkis40:
I concur this method is working on 12th gen Fire 7 running latest Fire OS 8.3.1.3, very nice !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, it seems to work, but also affects Google Drive functionality as seen in wilver's post. I held off on posting my guide to setting up RethinkDNS until this was confirmed (which it was) so I posted my guide anyway. (Linked in my signature.) If you don't use Google Drive, it's probably easier to use the method in Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
I've been using my Fire HD10 (2021, 11th Gen) for a while as my general utility "daily driver" and it's surprising effective ... there are some caveats.

Fire HD10 is great for content consumption, but a little awkward for content creation ... I STILL haven't mastered the onscreen keyboard.

The HD10s are Widevine certified for HD DRM media content and streaming HD video is as good as the "big boys".

I tend to categorize HD10 apps into 3 classes: Amazon "native" apps, the "Google suite" apps, and "everyhing else".

I actually USE many of the Amazon apps : Amazon Shopping, Prime Music, Prime Video, Kindle. So I need my Amazon account to be active. Do NOT install the Amazon apps from Google Play Store ... that will only cause trouble. In addition, many of the "brand name" streaming and social media apps have ported to Amazon AppStore and have been coded specifically for the Amazon/FireOS environment and run well, without exception. I originally thought that debloating "everything Amazon" and using Play Store installed apps only would be preferred, but I've found from experience that the Amazon-coded apps to be less cumbersome. So approach Amazon debloating with caution.

The Google suite (Gmail, YouTube) run well with the exception that background notifications will not be posted.

Other productivity apps run well: Adobe (Acrobat Pro, Scan) Microsoft Office 360 suite, Teleconference (Zoom, Skype, Teams). All the web browsers (Edge, Edge Canary, Firefox, Firefox Focus, Brave, Chrome)

GPS is not enabled on Fire tablets, although some apps can use Location Services via WiFi ... Google Maps works but you have be WIFIi connected and the geolocation resolution isn't great.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Thanks for the confirmation ! ... Good work 👍

Looks like 12th Gen Fire tablets are back in business ... Excellent news!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Excellent!!! From the looks of it, new Fire (2022) tablets can now work with Google Services and FTB. Sweet! 🥳
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] 123x:
Thanks! Is it possible to uninstall these side-loaded updates and go back to the firmware version? In case they break something. With standard android it's usually possible, but who knows with FireOS...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wilver:
really? Im using it without problems after did your tutorial. After I had done it, I had problems, but after a reboot its working o.o
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Side-loaded apps can always be uninstalled from Google Play Store or from FireOS "Settings" per normal Android procedure ... FireOS can be weird, but not THAT weird LOL.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
In your fist sentence, you said "it". Did you mean RethinkDNS, or the new FTB mitigations? I'm happy that whatever you tried, the reboot solved it! (y) BTW, it's only necessary to use one of those procedures to block OTA updates. ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wilver:
The RethinkDNS! Im only using the RethinkDNS method. Haha, sorry about the confusion! But yeah, it seem to be working just fine now
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slarkis40:
If you're having trouble syncing Google Chrome, just set your homepage to google.com ( settings : advanced : homepage ) delete all the tabs and restart the browser and it will sync up nicely, Google Drive works, Googlemaps, gmail, all confirmed working! Back in business.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Flipfuchs:
Hi! I am new to all this. I've just downloaded the google Playstore on my new fire8. I could install my Apps, one of them usually uses Spech, but on the fire8 its not working.

Under "text to spech" the there ist no default language and when i try to download a new language pack, the Download wont start, it stays in "Download in progress"

Is this the right option to get Spech at all? How do i can download those?

Thank you very much :-)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Hello

You may need to install "Speech Services by Google" app to get speech recognition/voice typing to work in the Google ecosystem. It's normally part of a standard Android install but but FireOS is not standard Android and is missing some "pieces" needed for the Google infrastructure

Speech Services app is available on the Google Play Store.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Finnzz:
I'd like to try running the new update blocking method from Fire Toolbox 30 on a FireTV (FireOS7). Is there a way to see the ADB commands that are being run?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Dougmeister:
Ok. I have a launcher and Google Services installed. Great. Thanks!

If I would want to toggle back and forth between the Nova Launcher and the apps available via my Amazon account, is that possible?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] A-question:
Ah! So we're good to go on the 2022 HD8 then? Might grab one, returned my 10 as I found it too big & heavy for casual use.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jameskiddo:
anyone with the Fire 7 12th Gen able to get Youtube Kids working? I applied the fix to get the google play services to work for Youtube & Youtube Music. I'm getting an error with Youtube Kids that Google Play Services aren't installed except it is installed and working on the other Google apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slarkis40:
Same here, it's not perfect unfortunately, at least youtube still works.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slarkis40:
Apps which use maps ported from gmaps seem to have problems too, saying 'updating from google services' so not entirely perfect.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Flipfuchs:
Thanks for your reply!

i downloaded the Speech Services app, but it seems like its not used by my Apps... in the Settings there ist no Option to enable it or to link it to my Apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] h1rst:
How do i disable the Amazon Kindle app, didn't found it in the Toolbox Apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's possible to switch back to the original Fire Launcher, but why would you want that? You can launch all the original apps from Nova without all the Amazon "buy me" things to click. Just pull up the app drawer and add the apps you want to the home screen of your Nova launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

You can use Toolbox to disable Kindle. Go to Manage Amazon Apps > Manual tab > Simple (Recommended). Look for "Kindle Store" and disable that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] h1rst:
Thank you,

I already tried it but it the Kindle reading app doesn't dissable.

I picked the following options.

It is a Fire HD 10 (2021)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
There's also Amazon Newstand you can disable.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] h1rst:
thanks Worked.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Dougmeister:
I got this Fire 6" (2014) free from a friend, factory reset it, and when it synched to my Amazon account I saw a few games that I don't think are available anymore from the Play Store (Angry Birds Star Wars edition, for one).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You just need to create shortcuts to those apps and add them to your home screen. You can use an app like Activity Launcher to create the shortcuts.

Edit: Or you can Google those apps and download them from a reputable source if they aren't already installed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ctrlaltesc:
hii, i just got the fire tablet 10 (2021) and i cant seem to download google services sadly.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jaydh1:
I've just bought a new 2022 kindle fire 8hd. I've tried installing Google Play on it. All 4 files installed but when trying to access YouTube kids, roblox and some other downloaded apps from the play store I got the error 'get Google play services' and I can't use them. Some apps work though. I followed instructions on https://www.howtogeek.com/232726/ho...fire-tablet/#moka_anchor_Fire72022Permissions but it's not working as it's asking me to install Google play services for some apps. Hopefully someone can help get around this. TIA
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jaydh1:
I can't get YouTube kids or roblox to work on my 2022 8hd. It says Google play services needs installing but it is installed
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slarkis40:
Download aurora store apk here : https://aurora-store.en.uptodown.com/android/download

install the aurora store apk and pick Roblox, seems to work for me.

Unfortunately 'Youtube kids' does not work using this method.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] A-question:
I've installed aurora on an old hd 8 and has basically every app on here? Obviously using google apps might be tricky without services but you just install social media apps, browsers etc it's perfect right?

No account needed either just download and go.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Absolutely, Aurora is a play store client so you should have access to all apps you'd find on the Play store.

You should be good to go, no account required. :D

However, there may be some instances where an app will refuse to work without Play Services (Google specific apps, etc.) like you mentioned. Best of luck, and enjoy!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bart6264:
hey we just got ourselfs a hd10 11th gen.. removed all the bloat and disabled updates but we would like to use the prime video app and freevee app which dont work if updates are disabled any workaround? and i think my wife would love an amazon tablet to be able to go into the amazon shop aswell xD..any chance for it to work? sideloaded some apks i found here or from the FTB web still no luck >< any help would be appreciated
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

You have to use the Amazon apps that came with your tablet. Play store apps won't work to replace any pre-loaded native apps. Uninstall all Amazon apps that you tried sideloading from the Playstore or elsewhere. Re-enable the Amazon apps that you need on the tablet (including Shop Amazon so you can sign in). Click on the last link in my signature for updated Amazon native apps. Apply any that you need. Then you should be good to go. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bart6264:
i have np using my native apps but they simply didnt work.. so now i reactivated shop+video (tested still dont work), got ur versions of them, pushed them via FTB, installed them on the tablet..still wont let me connect in video ..i did select remove complete amazon bloat was that too much do i need to reactivate more then those 2?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bart6264:
oh stupid me nvm if u login to shop FIRST then it gets u into video now it works thanks!!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, you got it. I should have mentioned that a little more prominently in my initial reply. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] oasisish:
Long time watcher of the thread, first time poster. I have a Fire HD10 on 7.3.2.6. and previously used an older version of toolbox to do some updates to my tablet. I downloaded Toolbox 30.0 and disabled lock screen ads and did Nova custom launcher earlier today. My home key doesn't seem to work now. Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SEuk:
Using the advanced mode to remove specific things like email and silk that slow the tablet to a crawl, can i save what ive disabled to a cfg or txt file like you can with deblote and undo

I need to keep books, prime video, nf, disney, music, but remove the rest so need to save whats gone
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jdcma:
Thank you for sending those files over. I finally got google services and the play store to download onto my device! However I'm now running into another issue. When I go to sign in it looks for updates to the app then tells me that "something went wrong, please try again later". I tried 3 or 4 times to sign in but it just tells me the same thing over and over. I did a bit of googling and it seems that this occurs when something in the device software is preventing me from downloading updates to the services. Have you come accross this before?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mr.Martin:
Got my new Fire HD 10 yesterday and had the problem that my amazon shopping app was no longer working. It always said my device is no longer supported. I tried many things last night. Then I found your post and tried to sideload your "Shop Amazon.apk" and then... boooom, it works! Thank you. :D

And also thank you to Datastream33. Your Toolbox is amazing! (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] strangefinder:
Hi all,

i just recieved Fire HD 10 gen11 with almost newest Amazon rom.

with the Toolbox everything is ok so far.

Only the Amazon Launcher is a pita.

is there anyway to kick it against Nov or whatever launcher?

thx

anyway i'll send it back, i stay on 8" version ....
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] A-question:
So I've been on and off deciding to get the new HD8. I got an HD10 in the summer sale but found it too big and heavy.

The lack of google service working was off putting, but that seems to be fixed now with the newer models?

Anyway upon reflection the only google app I would really use is YouTube, and even then I am okay with watching it via the browser. I can also be fine with checking my email and keep notes via the browser. So not having GPS isn't really a big deal to me?

Which got me thinking - is there anything stopping me from just getting the new HD8, downloading the Aurora store to get the apps I want - (Edge, Bit warden, VPN, socials etc)? I would keep OTA updates on because there wouldn't be a conflict with anything?

I am fine with using the FIRE OS launcher. I'll probably just disable lock screen ads and then remove a few amazon apps.

Any advice would be appreciated!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] J0hnBee:
Just downloaded v30 on a fresh tablet, getting nothing but errors trying to install a custom launcher(Nova).

Anyone know if there is a way to install Nova launcher on the latest Tablets?

HD 10 gen 11

Stock everything

Toolbox v30