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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] davidwilder:
Just bought a refurbished HD10+ from Amazon that came today with 7.3.2.1. I have a 32G version with 7.3.2.2 but I wanted 64G. I was able to get the refurbished 64G device for less than the 32 G device cost me last Thanksgiving. The refurbished device looks brand new and FTB 28.1 worked perfectly to change the launcher, remove lockscreen ads, stop updates, and load google apps. So far it is great!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wyvren:
Hi there,

2 quick questions, where can I safely find the disney plus south african version (aka hotstar mess) to install. As well as when I try to click on google services Fire Toolbox keeps crashing on that section, everything else works great
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Tommiee:
Hi. I downloaded and am trying Fire Toolbox. After un-registering my Fire HD 10 9th Generation, There is a banner on the home screen telling me to register my tablet. Can Fire Toolbox remove this banner? I tried to attach a screenshot but this forum is telling me that 2.86 MB is too large? Thanks for your help. Tom
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] VoidShade:
Hi, Is Fire HD 10 (2021) also getting the latest Fire OS 8?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

There was/is no need to unregister with Amazon before running Toolbox.

Chances are, from what you describe, you've already been updated to the new firmware (v7.3.2.3). It's too bad you didn't discover this thread before that firmware came out. :confused:

That banner will disappear when you replace the launcher (which the new firmware makes sub-optimal), or re-register your tablet. If you want any Amazon services like Prime or Shop Amazon, your'e going to need re-register.

That's a pretty large picture file. Usually, my screenshots are ~15 KB .jpg files. You must have been trying to upload a .png or some other format with little compression. :)

My suggestion to you is to run Toolbox on your tablet without removing any Amazon services first. (Don't run the Manage Amazon Apps subtool yet.) Set up everything you want to run and make sure it's all working, including re-registering your tablet with Amazon if you're going to use any of their services. THEN, run the Manage Amazon Apps subtool. I would suggest using the Manual (Simple) tab in that subtool and disable only those services that you know you don't want, paying attention to the information window in the tool when you select each item to disable. The window includes descriptions of each item and the affects of removing it. They're color-coded, so if it's red, you probably want to leave it alone, and if it's yellow, you'll need to decide if it will affect other things that you might want.

If you need any help, that's what we're here for. ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That sounds like the problem that new versions of the tablet are having with Google Services. It seems that Amazon mucked something up in FireOS 8 that is needed for Google Services to install properly. Stay tuned here and you'll know as soon as a solution is found.

I have no idea about the South African version of Disney. You may be able to sideload it if you can find it somewhere. I really don't know. Sorry.😟
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I have no list of the tablets that have FireOS 8 on them, but chances are that it comes with it preloaded. If you have one, and it has FireOS 7 on it, it will probably remain on 7. That's just an educated guess.

Edit: I found a list on Amazon. It will remain on FireOS 7. Here's the list. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wyvren:
Thanks for that. Sadly I can't use the normal disney app, we have to log in with phones and sms's not emails. Its sad and the app is useless! We can barely use the disney app on our tv's its designed for mobile devices. . . . Its driving us nuts!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Is the version of Disney you're after available on alternate sites like APKpure or APKmirror? A Google search for "alternate app stores" may help you find it.

Edit: I'm in North America, but can use a VPN to get a South African IP address. Doing so, and visiting their "Official Site", they "claim" that Disney+ is now supported there (latest version is June 1, 2022) and is available on the official app from the Play Store. The problem is Amazon's version from the Amazon appstore is from October of 2019, and because it may have some parts built-in and not removable, you can't just install the Play Store version and expect it to work, but you can try. There's probably a lot of *'s and other legalese that says it may not work everywhere, but according to them, it's supported on Amazon devices there. I'm not surprised to hear it doesn't work there after reading the reviews of how poorly the app performs. Sorry you're having so much trouble. Maybe a VPN is the way to go. 🤔
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Tommiee:
Hi. I di not unregister with Amazon before running the toolbox. I will try to do what your post above is suggesting. I will let you know after I try it. Thanks for your help. Tom
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tamasik:
fantastic tool, was looking for something like this for a long time. Thanks a lot.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] abrfattouh:
@Datastream33 @blaacksheep Hi there. New member here. Sorry to bother, but can you chaps confirm and verify if Google Services actually works on the new Fire HD 10 and HD 10 Plus. Little hesitant to purchase one of these tablets unknowingly if they actually will work with Google Play Services with this tool. Don't get me wrong, great tool, great effort. It's just again I'm a bit hesitant purchasing one of these and Google Play doesn't work out at the end with using your tools.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Here's Jonny:
Hi.

I've got a Fire HD10 Plus and everything is working fine.

I've got Amazon Kindle installed and Play is advising an update is available but it always fails to install. Should this be updated via Play or Amazon ?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] abrfattouh:
Hi there Jonny, speaking of my experience with past devices, the Amazon route is the way to go. Let me know if it works out. Cheers.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] otaku91:
I am thinking of getting an inexpensive refurb Fire 8 or 10. I apologize in advance if these were answered earlier in the thread, but I had a few questions.

1. Assuming the device doesn't ship with the latest firmware and I am able to disable lock screen ads, should I also disable OTA updates to prevent a subsequent update from restring the ads?

2. If I do pay to remove ads from the device, will that be permanently associated with the device? If I factory reset and give it to a family member, will the lock screen ads still be removed if the device is registered to a different Amazon account?

Thanks in advance!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pmckay:
Amazon Day is almost here... I'd love to order a Amazon fire HD10 (new or even a refurb), but not so inclined to get one if I likely to get firmware level 7.3.2.2+ Does anyone have any experience in getting a Fire from Amazon recently?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JuggaloDroid:
I recently got a fire 7 (2022) and it's running 8.1.3.3. Having a hard time with the apk route for google play (keeps crashing, was okay before update). I'm going to try this toolkit and see how it goes.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] philcsf:
Had a refurb Fire HD 10 arrive this morning, came on a much older firmware. Took a series of around 6-7 OTA updates to get it to 7.3.2.1, now I've disabled the WiFi and about to use Toolkit.

Ignore me, turns out that the refurb listed for the HD 10 (£70) is the 2019 model, while the new version (£80) is the 2021 model, so got the wrong device :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JuggaloDroid:
I have a 12th gen fire 7 running 8.3.1.1. I have used the toolkit and everything installed okay, but I cannot sign in to my google account. It will either not get me to the login screen when I click "Sign In" or it will think about it and then send me back to the login page. I have had it also let me input some login info, then send em back to the login page. If anyone has had a similar issue or knows of a workaround, I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

So far, the only tablets that are having problems are the ones with FireOS 8 installed. I think that's only on the Fire 7 (2022) models. The Fire 10's are 2021 and 2019 models. They're still on FireOS 7, and they probably won't be getting an update to 8. Especially if you happen to get a pre-7.3.2.2 one and can disable updating.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
1. If your tablet comes with f/w v7.3.2.1 or earlier, you'll be able to disable OTA updates and remove lockscreen ads. I recommend you do both. Once a f/w version later than 7.3.2.1 is installed, you'll be unable to do either and f/w updates are more about Amazon and advertising than user experience and security.

2. I don't know for sure, but to the best of my knowledge they'll stay removed if you pay for it. I think they just send a special message to your tablet from one of their servers to turn off the ad engine. Sort of like how the cable company tells your set top box what channels to give you. I believe it's permanent even after factory reset or change in registration.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The problem of getting Google Services installed on FireOS 8 is a new one to which a solution has not yet been found. So far, it appears only on the 2022 7" tablets. All the rest run FireOS 7 or 5. Stay tuned here and you will find out first if a workaround is discovered. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] otaku91:
Thanks for your help. I look forward to tweaking the device. I noticed some other folks mentioning that they got devices on old firmware and updated it to 7.3.2.1. I have never used a Fire tablet before. Does the update process usually update step-by-step and allow you to only update to a specific version like that?

The only things in the toolkit that don't work on 7.3.2.2+ is disabling ads and updates, correct? If I happen to get a fully updated device, I will just pay the $15. I just wanted to make sure that was per device, not per account.

Thanks again!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Personally, I don't see any benefit of updating the firmware to the latest version that works competely with Toolbox. As a matter of fact, I'm looking at trying to downgrade my HD 10 (2019) from 7.3.1.2 to 7.3.1.0. That's the first version that came out and has an exploit available to get root.

The other thing that you missed is you can't replace the default launcher without some extraordinary means (which have been worked out in v28.6 of Toolkit). Even the replaced launcher on a 7.3.2.2+ tablet is not ideal. Your launcher will always be on the recents list so you can't "clear all" without getting the Amazon launcher back until you press Home again. Also, it starts with Amazon launcher until you press home to replace it with your launcher of choice. It also consumes valuable resources having a launcher loaded in memory that you aren't using. It works, but it's not ideal. My suggestion is to keep whatever version of f/w you get and shut off OTA updates if at all possible.

Edit: I don't know that it won't just update directly to the latest f/w without stepping through each of the intermediate ones. I've never allowed my tablet to update. If you truly want to irreversibly update to 7.3.2.1, I'd grab the update for that specific version directly from Amazon and apply it with your WiFi turned off until you can run Toolbox again. It will have OTA updates activated again and some features re-enabled that Toolbox disables.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cmclark00:
Hello, I have the new fire 7 and used the toolbox to install google play services, however youtube kids and youtube tv still tell me i dont have google play services installed. Is there any workaround for these two apps? Thanks in advance!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

The problem you and others are experiencing is only on the new Fire 7 (2022) tablets. They all come with FireOS 8 and there has been something removed/disabled in the latest f/w that won't allow Google Services to install properly. Stay tuned in this thread and when a workaround is discovered, you'll be among the first to find out! ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cmclark00:
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. If it helps any I also get a popup about gboard needing google services even though it still works fine. And with youtube tv I can click out of the pop up and sign in but then it crashes back to the splash screen
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Toolbox has 3 alternatives to Youtube, but YouTube Vanced is deprecated now and may no longer install. There's still Smart YouTube TV and SmartPipe. I think they'll all work without Google Services installed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cmclark00:
I managed to get vanced installed for myself, but gotta have that yt kids for my daughter lol. I've got an older HD 8 laying around that she can play with until this is figured out though lol
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Rob@thebar:
Hi All, just wanted to let you all know that I ordered a black fire 10 HD 32gb and it has come with 7.3.2.1 installed, more than happy.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

Run Toolbox on it before you let it on WiFi or it'll update itself to something you don't want!! Be sure to turn off OTA updates right away. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Rob@thebar:
Hi blaacksheep, thanks for the welcome 🤟

Gonna sort it out this evening 😀
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davrat:
Just got a Fire 8 Plus Prime Day deal - and of course wanted Google Play services. Fire Toolbox - all installed (so easy to use). Played about with a few things including using a custom launcher and I've messed something up. Launcher installed fine, and I picked the "Custom Navbar Key". All went well but the custom launcher I like keeps coming up with a dialogue to make it the default launcher - which I know is not a fault of Fire Toolbox, so I thought I'd remove it - I searched for how to revert back to the Fire Launcher since the option wasn't in Toolbox, and ended up using "pm enable com.amazon.firelauncher" via ADB Shell and uninstalling Automate however that doesn't seem to have worked and the home button still takes me to the custom launcher not the fire launcher?

Any help please?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
Hello,just joined the forum and this is my first post so go easy on me lol. I have ordered a fire hd 10 tablet on prime day for $52 and looking to minimize amazon's grip. I have downloaded FTB_V28.6 exe and getting alert that it is not commonly downloaded and may be dangerous. Should I be scared? This is all new to me but this all seems reversible from what I am reading. So I just attach tablet to my computer and run the download? Unfortunately, I did check the box on Amazon linking the device to my account, but went in and deregistered it. Amazon had it linked before I even have it in hand. My fault..

I see there are other options out there to just sideload the google play store via apk. Looking for your expert advice on what to do. Thanks for any and all suggestions.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The default launcher can't be changed on the latest firmware. That's why it keeps giving that message. I don't know what launcher you're using, but Nova launcher works great. If you just want to revert to stock, click the dots in the upper-right and this will appear:

It's a little hidden so it's not a surprise you didn't see it. If it's a fresh install, you might just be better off resetting the tablet and starting fresh because the toolbox probably won't offer to re-install Automate and it's kind of a pain to get it working manually. If you choose Nova launcher it works fine. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

If you downloaded it from the first post in this thread, it's okay. If you got it somewhere else, I would recommend re-downloading it from here.

Follow the instructions in the first post to get Toolbox installed on your computer and to setup ADB debugging on your tablet. If you didn't uncheck the box, and you've turned it on at home, you've probably already updated to 7.3.2.3 if your tablet came with an earlier version. :( The first thing a Fire tablet does is phone home to Amazon and download the latest update. If you haven't got the tablet yet, turn off your WiFi before you turn your tablet on. It will know your WiFi password and connect/update before you can stop it. If you've got an earlier version of FireOS like 7.3.2.1, you can disable OTA updates and change the launcher with Toolbox. You want an earlier version. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
Thank you, blaacksheep(love the intentional misspelling of your screen name). Tablet arrives tomorrow. I have deregistered it from my account, so do I still need to be wary about initial startup? I could always err on the side of caution and turn off my wifi as suggested. So basically I just connect tablet to computer and run software? I downloaded the exe file from first post.It will automatically install on tablet? Sorry for all the noob ?'s, this stuff is all new to me. You seasoned veterans are very patient with people like me an I appreciate that.

PS- the warning about the file downloaded from page 1 saying it is not commonly downloaded and may be dangerous can be ignored I assume. Just gun shy about doing this to a brand new device.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If you're lucky, you'll get a tablet with v7.3.2.1 or earlier. If you left the box checked, you'll need to turn off your WiFi BEFORE turning the tablet on because if the tablet is associated with your Amazon account, it will know your WiFi password and connect as soon as it's turned on to start updating.

There is a proceedure for installing the Toolbox on your Windows computer and setting up the tablet for ADB debugging. It's described in detail in the first post. (It's hidden in the spoiler tags because it's rather lengthy.) Follow that procedure before you even turn your tablet on the first time. The Toolbox is a utility that needs to be installed on your computer and it interacts with your tablet via the USB port. There are many subtools in the Toolbox and each does a specific thing to your tablet all via ADB debugging. Everything is reversible by a simple factory reset and you don't have to fear ruining your tablet.

Here's hoping you get an early firmware version.🤞
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ShadowDeath:
I have a Fire 10 (2019 launch) with latest update and my mom just use it for outlook, facebook, messenger and instagram, worth it to do it, i mean at least in perfomance?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Thomasba:
Just an FYI I bought a Fire 10 (reconditioned) in the prime day sale as it was only £60 but it came with 7.3.2.3 pre-installed. It's not a problem for me as It's just used as a spare monitor. The latest toolbox and Blacksheeps excellent Guide manages to let me achieve all I need.

Just thought I'd let you know it's still a bit of a lottery as to what version you'll get.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
Thanks for the responses, guys. As blaacksheep and Thomasba have so succinctly put it, I've got my fingers crossed and hope I get one with an earlier version firmware. That will be my first order of business, to check that when my package arrives later today. I picked up a 10.1 in 64GB hd fire tablet,2021 model, brand new for $52.I traded in a 7 yr. old HDX 7" that was on its last legs but Amazon gave me $15 bucks for it along with a 20% discount for doing so. Even if the one I get has a less desirable firmware, I should at least be able to get the App Store on there by just installing a few apk files, which right there would make it a better device. Here were my numbers:

Order Summary

Item(s) Subtotal:$189.99

Shipping & Handling:$0.00

Lightning Deal:-$94.99

Tablet Trade-In:-$38.00

Total before tax:$57.00

Estimated tax to be collected:$4.92

Gift Card Amount:-$9.59

Grand Total:$52.33

They made it hard NOT to take the deal. It was then that I started looking into how to make it more of an android device and less of an Amazon one, at that lead me to this wonderful forum. Just playing the waiting game right now, but I will report back and let you know how it goes. Thanks for all the responses.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] psx_ni:
Fire Toolbox v28.6 is crashing when downloading the 4 google services apks.

It crashes after each file is downloaded. When reloading the toolbox and trying again, it moves onto the next file.

On the 5th try it will say the APKs are corrupted and to delete them.

Checking in the appdata folder, there are 4 apks of various sizes.

I deleted them and tried again, same issue.

Edit: Tried toolbox v27.0 on another PC, and same issue - crashes after each file downloads. Is this a problem at the server it's downloading from?

How can I fix this and get Google Services installed on the Fire tablet?

Note: Trying to install on a Fire HD 8 10th Gen with f/w 7.3.2.3

Note2: Error in event log is:

Application: Fire Toolbox.exe

Framework Version: v4.0.30319

Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.

Exception Info: System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException

at System.Windows.Forms.Control.MarshaledInvoke(System.Windows.Forms.Control, System.Delegate, System.Object[], Boolean)

at System.Windows.Forms.Control.Invoke(System.Delegate, System.Object[])

at AmazonFireToolbox.PlayServices.client_ProgressChanged(System.Object, System.Net.DownloadProgressChangedEventArgs)

at System.Net.WebClient.OnDownloadProgressChanged(System.Net.DownloadProgressChangedEventArgs)

at System.Net.WebClient.ReportDownloadProgressChanged(System.Object)

at System.Threading.QueueUserWorkItemCallback.WaitCallback_Context(System.Object)

at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean)

at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean)

at System.Threading.QueueUserWorkItemCallback.System.Threading.IThreadPoolWorkItem.ExecuteWorkItem()

at System.Threading.ThreadPoolWorkQueue.Dispatch()

at System.Threading._ThreadPoolWaitCallback.PerformWaitCallback()
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
The app is designed around 2017/18 models. (Doesn't mean it won't work on older models... it's just unknown). 2018 models are newer, better performance, less stingy on the control of apps.... Which allows this tool to have better control and less workarounds required.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] scram69:
OK - I deleted the child profile ("Free Time" settings) because I decided I could set up the tablet for my son with what I needed via parental controls.

I then repeated the manual remove steps above and was able to get rid of com.amazon.dee.app for good.

Wanted to update this for others who may be having trouble removing apps with a "Free Time" profile set up. I was not able to do it until I removed the profile.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] marvi0:
Many thanks for this tool. I have followed instructions but having issues with removing everything amazon. I have tried both manual and auto methods but no luck. I have managed to install nova from the play store and also installed the launcher hijack and have nova as my default launcher but i just cannot remove amazon apps. Is there anything i am doing wrong please. I have a fire hd 10 2017.