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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I haven't heard of any way to customize the Amazon launcher like that. I don't think it's possible. I just use Nova 7 on both of mine. One is on the new firmware (7.3.2.3), and one is on older firmware (7.3.1.2). It performs well, even on the newer tablet. (YMMV)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipF8_2010:
I have just one more question:

Is there a way to activate notifications of the apps installed (from the Play Store)?

Other than that, the tablet is excellent now.

Edit:

Is it safe to disable the Fire OS launcher?

Seems the package name is "amazon.fireos" or is it something else in case I can disable it if it's safe?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kotobuki09:
I have trouble making another launcher work with a home button. I am currently in the latest fw for HD 10 2021 and it seems both methods in the toolkit didn't work for me. The Custom Navbar Key seems like it doesn't work at all and the Re-route Home key only works a couple of time then home key gets back to the Fire launcher. Did anyone have the same issue?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipF8_2010:
One Button Navigation Bar - Apps on Google Play

Show assistive button at the bottom of the screen.

play.google.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kotobuki09:
I currently use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.conena.navigation.gesture.control.pro&gl=US

But I will give this one a try! This is used for Re-route Home key right?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipF8_2010:
Yes, just choose the app (launcher) and it'll redirect you to your preferred launcher.

In the beginning, this One Button Navigation Bar was kinda confusing (I was so used to the navigation bar with three buttons), but after a while it clicked with me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] flaviocc:
Hi Jumbo.

Don't work.

My only way to use Alexa and show mode on fire 8 hd+ is:

- Put the tablet in English.

If I change the tablet language to PT-BR, the show mode disappears from status bar and Alexa only works in English.

Amazon will launch a tablet fire here in Brazil, but we don't know what model is....let's hope after the launch everything works like the devices that are sold here (Echos, Fire TV, Fire 4k, Echo show...)

I really don't understand why Amazon acts like that, blocking features by regions.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
These are truly great words of wisdom, it seems like there's more and more hacking and fraudulent sites than ever before. I personally have a e*trade debt card linked to one of my accounts with them, they didn't recognize a charge on my account and they notified me about it, of course in the process of doing so they put what they called a 'red flag' on my account. And then a few days later I received a message from one of my credit card accounts that's backed by chase bank, I spoke with their fraud department and they are sending me a new credit card that has a new account number associated with it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kotobuki09:
It has the same result as the Gesture control app. The home button still coming back to Fire launcher after close the tablet and not using it for a while!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Hi @blaacksheep. Yesterday, I installed DNS66 again in accordance with all of your steps, but I don't see the VPN page. Did I miss something?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
. Mm

Very strange way of marketing, Amazon! Why would Amazon deliberately want to cut off part of their own user base from the Echo/Alexa services in different parts of the world? Amazon customer service says it's a licensing problem ... Sure. What's really frusrating is that I'm effectively paying the same MSRP as USA but missing a large piece of the Fire/Echo "experience".

It's ironic that many FTB users are trying all the can to "eliminate all things Amazon" , but I'm desperately trying to gain MORE Amazon functions.

I originally bought my Fire 10 HD 2021 to try out Home Automation. Amazon has developed a nice relationship with ZIgbee (one of the major suppliers of "Smart Home" products) to make more hardware "Works with Alexa" certified to simplifiy "plug & play". I don't fully understand why Amazon Fire tablets aren't included ... it's not technical.

FTB allows me to access Google Play Srrvices but I'm not sure how it interfaces with the "Google Home" infrastructure ... will require more research before I invest more into a "smart home".

Hope you have a better experience when Fire tablets officially launch in Brazil.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Be VERY cautious using online banking/ trading , ESPECIALLY over public WiFi. Android devices and Google Play Services are generally a pretty secure hardware/software set. The cybersecurity threat comes from exposing your device to the internet without using all the proper security protection ... Includes VPN, AV, strong passwords, 2-factor authentication etc ... don't leave home without it. The greater risk is "human" failure ... phishing, scamming, "social engineering" and the general unawareness of cyber threats.

You may have noticed that none of the major financial services have apps in the Amazon Appstore. I suspect that since Fire tablets aren't GPS compliant, there is a security risk to the financial institutions ... or does Amazon just want media consumption apps only ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipF8_2010:
You want to get rid of the ads on the lockscreen, right?

This method doesn't require any app to be installed, just adb commands on PC to the tablet.

https://xdaforums.com/t/remove-amaz...o-root-required.3784848/page-11#post-86752565

I can now use my own VPN provider and admittedly, having DNS66 was a bit inconvenient always on so it's great this exists.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
This was @Datastream33 's original project which evolved into FTB.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipF8_2010:
Fire ToolBox?

The program says that removing ads from the lockscreen isn't possible (e.g. for Fire HD 8) so the option recommend is using DNS66 with the blocklist, but I found the ADB method much more efficient.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
A lot has changed since you first started viewing this thread; unless you've followed the thread recently, you'd never know.

Since Fire OS 7 update 7.3.2.2 (Nov/21), you can't disable OTA updates, you can't remove Lockscreen ads, can't diable some Amazon apps and more. See earlier posts by @Datastream33 , @blaacksheep for the details. Much work has been done looking for "workarounds" but most of the "damage" is at the FireOS level.

You disabled OTA updates in the beginning , so you are running an "older" version of FireOS 7 ... try to keep it that way or you will lose a lot of your FTB setup function.

The ADB mods to disable Lockscreen ads are only applicable pre-7.3.2.2 f/w ... that's why they still work for you.

Consider yourself fortunate to have your Fire 8 tab setup in the "golden age" of Fire tablet mods ...it doesn't get any better.

** EDIT **

@PhilipF8_2010 is using a set of ADB commands to remove Locksreen Ads using a "revoking permissions" procedure which is an alternative to tha ADB script ussed by @Datastream33's FTB process.

See: link ff posts

https://xdaforums.com/t/remove-amaz...tomate-no-root-required.3784848/post-86752565

Apparantly works with current Fire OS 7.3.2.4 Durability after OTA update to be determined.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] matt9atkins:
Excellent work on the toolbox and the launcher workaround. Just a quick question, is there anyway to prevent the launcher from showing in the recent apps list when the user presses the recent button on the bottom navigation bar? I ask because I’d like my children to not be able to swipe and remove the launcher from the recent apps list and end up at the main fire launcher screen.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
- Notifications can be turned off/on from tablet Settings/Notifications ... but it is inconsistent ... some work, some don't . Part of the quirks of running FireOS and GPS together , I think.

- Do Not "Tinker" with Fire Launcher ... It is now a protected app within FireOS ... any attempt to remove/disable it could destabilize the whole system. That's why there is "workaround" using an alternative launcher rather than a total removal of Fire Launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
No. I think @blaacksheep said that using DNS66 applies to OTA updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] azrael201:
Looks like even with the DNS66 on it's still able to update its firmware still. Damn
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I think I was misunderstood. I now have a quasi-Android HD 8 Plus, but forgot to install @blaacksheep's DNS66 to guard against Amazon OTA updates. So, I installed it today. I have been running 7.3.2.4 since 8/13/2022 and still am. Updates shows a new update is ready to install. So, now DNS66 and the blacklist file are installed. The only reason i posted was to alert @blaacksheep that after finishing the install I did not see the VPN page he displayed in his workaround. I don't even know if that's a problem, but thought I should report it in everyone's interest.

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] matt9atkins:
Can anyone help?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kotobuki09:
I think it's the best solution without even need for the toolbox :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
DNS66 can be used to block OTA updates, but you must be vigilant using it. You need to turn off WiFi before shutdown/reboot because it takes a few moments for it to start up. It must then be started before you connect to WiFi because a DNS request will likely slip by before DNS66 starts if you didn't shut down WiFi. Once the tablet has the IP address of the Amazon server, it will not matter if you block further requests. It will start downloading the update. My tablet is on 7.3.2.3 because of that. One update (from 7.3.2.2) slipped through before I became more vigilant at turning off WiFi before shutting down. I haven't gotten the new version (7.3.2.4) and it's been out for a while now. I think I added a note to my post about this.

To reiterate - you must shut down WiFi prior to shutdown/reboot and you must have DNS66 up and running before you reconnect to WiFi in order to effectively block OTA updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I appreciate this info, and I'll make it a habit. But what about the fact that I don't see the VPN page you showed on your workaround? Thanks

[EDIT] How does one discern when DNS66 has launched?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That VPN page is from another app (in the crossed out section below the DNS66 info. It is from Activity Launcher, which I crossed out because the Always On VPN setting only shows an additional warning when your VPN is inactive. It doesn't stop the connection. The app is still useful for getting to settings that aren't otherwise available in FireOS, but is not needed for DNS66 to work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Thanks again

[EDIT] I just tested by turning off WiFi and rebooting. Pull Down notifications shows "Reconnecting error," but "Resume on system start-up" is turned on.

[EDIT-2] I opened the app itself and it started after 5-6 minutes, I guess. The notification did not self-correct.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipF8_2010:
The One Button Navigation Bar is a pure genius idea and I've grown so much to liking it, that I've switched my Samsung phone nav bar to this one.

Doesn't seem like there's a way to remove ads from it, like paying or making a donation.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] matt9atkins:
I don’t know if this is a bug or not but whenever I restart my Fire HD 8 tablet, Nova Launcher does not load automatically. It will only load once I press the home key. I have checked my Automate settings to ensure running on startup is selected but this still doesn’t do anything. Can anybody help please?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, that's the same behavior I get. It's fine, just as long as you see the shield in the notification bar. When you pull down the quick keys to turn on WiFi, you'll see DNS66 start up. If I don't see the shield in the notifications, I start up the application manually. It usually starts on it's own within a few minutes. This is the time period where you are unprotected from updates because DNS66 hasn't yet started. Hence the reason to turn off WiFi before shutdown/rebooting.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
DNS66 will keep the ads from loading, but only if you turn off WiFi on shutdown/reboots. You'll have to flush the cache and maybe even the program memory of One Button Navigation before DNS66 will work just to get rid of the ads it has already downloaded. If you flush the program memory, you will have to set it up just like when you first installed it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, that is typical behavior for the Custom Navigation Button. I'm so used to just pressing home once I see the message that Automate puts on the bottom of the screen when it first boots, that I don't think about it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] derekisthematrix:
Finally got time to work on this but for the life of me, I can't get it to work. I've tried a bunch of different variants of each of the 4 required Google apps (installed in the correct order) and I can log into the Play Store BUT can't install apps nor update any apps. Just sits there saying "Pending" and then quits trying after awhile. I've tried removing the 4 Google apps via FTB and starting fresh but no luck. These are Fire HD 8's (2020) with Fire OS 7.3.2.4. Any ideas?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MidtownHD:
anybody know how to update the Amazon Shop app? It's too old and the appstore doesnt want to update it and redirects it to the browser. Tried APKs from mirror site.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I've got just what you need! I copied the app from my tablet with newer firmware a short time ago and used it on my tablet with older firmware successfully. Here's a link to the .apk file:

ShopAmazonUpdate.apk ;)

Edit: Let me know how it works out.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MidtownHD:
Thank you so much!!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipF8_2010:
Is there a program like this for Samsung phones/tablets?

Really like their devices, but way too much bloatware.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Have you looked at the Samsung devices in the forums?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
For the more ADB adroit:

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
One Button Navigation Bar (OBNB) 2.06 no longer support an "action" of selecting an application, such as Nova 6.x. So I uninstalled 2.06 and installed apk version 1.4.1 which I download from apkpure.com and it works fine. Also, there's a Catch 22 regarding DNS66. You posted that after rebooting we're to wait until DNS66 is "Active" in the dropdown notifications before turning Wi-Fi on. But DNS66 will not become active until Wi-Fi has been turned on, and becomes active immediately when it is turned on. Thoughts?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You just have to wait until the shield shows up in the notification bar before you turn on WiFi.

One Button Navigation v2.06 does still have that option, but it's somewhat hidden under another heading/title. I forgot what it was, but the person who first mentioned that, described where it was now located in his post.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Nostii:
I have Automate and Lawnchair installed from Fire Toolbox on an HD 7 2019 model. I have used the Automate flow to remove ads from lockscreen and it worked. I have Lawnchair on my tablet as well and the Automate flow downloaded, however on home button press it goes to Home Pages, Kindle's default launcher. I have hid the device dashboard from navbar and swapped recents and back buttons with default spacing if that matters.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JerryBYong:
My only issue with the OBN app is that I can't seem to get it to work in landscape mode -- otherwise, it really is a good alternative. Do the other navbar replacement apps also suffer from the same issue?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipF8_2010:
That's a problem with the app itself and has yet to be addressed by the developer.

Anyway, the Fire HD 8 tablet I bought is a rock solid tablet that'll last me for years and with a 128GB SanDisk card it's even better! Who knew after removing all the Amazon junk that their affordable tablets would be so good.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
Hopefully by me posting this it will be okay with everyone, I'm seriously thinking about buying one of these. https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_us/nokia-t-20?sku=F20RID1A013
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] redjedi182:
dumb question, how do i get the black list onto my kindle. i got the apk app on there fine but have no clue how to move the file over
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Firstly, there is no such thing as a "dumb" question. A question is a question, and any question is a good one!

You could download it to your computer, and use the Push and Pull tool in the Toolbox to Push the blacklist file onto your tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

I don't recommend the second way because the whole Idea is to get the blocklist installed BEFORE you turn on WiFi!

A good third way is to use your Windows file browser to "push" the file to your tablet's internal storage. ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Lol, completely spaced that. I'm having a day man. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nookin:
I have 2021 model of HD10. It is running firmware before 7.3.2.2

For some reasons, from time to time when I start using it, it will pop up a screen that ask me:

How will you use this Storage device​

It is related to the micro SD card I put in. I use it as an external storage. Is there a way to disable the pop up?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] seanmachine:
I was just coming here to report the same bug. (HD7, latest everything, pretty close to stock). I'll be sittin' there, minding my own business, when I get an error notification: "cannot charge with this charger, please" somethingorother. thing is, it's not plugged into anything. then a bit later I'll get the moisture warning. and this all started BEFORE I started fiddling with the stock OS.

I think it's just a stupid FireOS glitch. I just ignore it and everything seems fine.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] seanmachine:
have you tried pulling the notification to the right (not swiping) and exposing the gear icon? you can usually mute notifications from there.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
I have a Fire HD 10 (2021) setup similar to yours with 128GB microSD Class 10 card as external memory . I came across this warning message in two situations:

1. I reused this SD card from another Android device. The card was used for data storage only, but not reformatted on new Fire tablet. Fire OS 7 randomly threw out to the warning until I reformatted the card, even though the card was functional.

2. Fire OS 7 also displayed warning just before the card FAILED ! Reformatting did not work. Replaced the card. I routinely monitor the "health" of my devices, so it was a bit of surprise when the card failed shortly after a "normal" check-up.

In either case, having data backed up to a "cloud" service and to a PC was essential!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Apparently mystery "moisture" problem is a common complaint with Fire tablets over the years. Could a design shortcoming.

Replacing the unit under warranty seems to be the only permanent "fix".
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I gave it plenty of time, but the shield never showed up. How long should I wait? But it does show up immediately when Wi-Fi is turned on. Also I'm "the person who first mentioned" it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chukacaa:
Hello Everyone.

Sorry for the following dumb question.

Is there any chance to make it work with a Fire 7 12th Generation?.

I tried to install using the Setup, but Youtube Kids won't launch at all. It says Google services is not installed. Which in fact it is.

Thx!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
YOu're right! I had a look and found it.

I'm guessing you just like the old version better if you choose to go that route.

As far as the shield coming up, I have seen it not behave properly on a previous installation and it NEVER showed up, even when active. When I reset the tablet, it worked fine. I'm guessing you have one of those situations. In that case you would just need to swipe down on the notification area and wait for any notification that DNS66 is running before you turn on your WiFi. Normally it will show a "Reconnecting error" when it first starts with no WiFi. It's then safe to turn on WiFi. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

There are no "dumb" questions. It's a perfectly legit question.

You have 2 problems from what I can tell. The first being that Google Services seems to only partially work on new FireOS 8 devices. Since you say it's already installed, I guess it works for the services your device uses. The second problem is getting Google Services installed on a Child Account. From what I've read, that can be accomplished by installing Google Services again to that Child Account. I believe you can choose the user to which to install in the settings at the top of the Toolbox. It's either under the gear, or the icon next to it. (I can't remember. My Windows VM isn't working since I upgraded my Linux box to the latest version.) I also think that there are problems associated with both a second Google account, AND a child Google account on FireOS. The feud between Amazon and Google rears its head once again! Maybe someone who has done this can tell you more about it, but at least you know where to start. Good luck with the child account, but I don't know how successful you will be. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chukacaa:
@blaacksheep

Thx for your reply.

I'm not using a Child's Account, just a regular one.

But everytime I tried to launch Youtube Kids, it says.

"Get Google Play Services"

YT Kids wont execute if Google Play services are not installed on this device.

<Install Button>

When I click on it, it redirects me to Play Services, and it Says. Uninstall - Update.

Which doesnt make any sense.

Btw. Youtube works perfectly, problem lies with Youtube Kids only.

Thx!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I don't know that YouTube Kids works under a regular account. I'm not experienced with Kids Accounts, nor YouTube Kids. I do know that both of these things are problematic on FireOS. I think you need to either experiment with it yourself, or wait for someone else to answer with instructions on what does work. Sorry I can't be of more assistance, but I just don't know. 🙁
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Update:

I installed YouTube Kids from the Play Store on my 2019 tablet (FireOS 7.3.1.2) and on my 2021 tablet (FireOS 7.3.2.3). In both cases it installed fine and launched. It looks like this only affects FireOS 8. FireOS 8 has been a big problem and no real solutions have been found AFAIK. I think you're out of luck here. :(