yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
You're correct to surmise that the DNS filters on your home router are the source of your problem. Adjust/change DNS white lists/black lists as required.

If you're still concerned with blocking Amazon servers, here's specific list of IPs involved, as provided by @blaacksheep :

# Amazon Update Servers

127.0.0.1 localhost

::1 localhost

127.0.0.1 d1s31zyz7dcc2d.cloudfront.net

127.0.0.1 amzdigital-a.akamaihd.net

127.0.0.1 amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net

127.0.0.1 softwareupdates.amazon.com

127.0.0.1 updates.amazon.com

127.0.0.1 arcus-uswest.amazon.com

127.0.0.1 arcus-useast.amazon.com

For a more robust "firewall" solution, consider using RethinkDNS; @blaacksheep has a comprehensive (and easy to follow) guide posted under his sig.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jdw1529:
Hi all,

I've been running toolbox since I purchased my hd10 nearly two years ago without any issue or updates. Still running 7.3.1.9. Reading this forum has me wondering whether I'm at risk of getting unwanted updates. I currently have one app (Microsoft 365) on the tablet from Amazon. Everything else is from google play. No alexa, shopping, kindle etc.

My tablet is showing that it is registered to my amazon account.

Is there anything I should do to avoid updates such as deregister from Amazon, remove the one amazon app on the tablet, use RethinkDNS? I occasionally use a VPN ( private internet access).

Any advice is appreciated.

John
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It sounds to me like you're fine. You can always check if you have OTA Updates disabled by going to Settings > Device Options > System Updates on your tablet. If it throws you back to Settings, then OTA Updates are disabled. If not, and it shows your current version, run the latest version of Toolbox and turn off OTA Updates and Automatic Updates. :-)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jdw1529:
Thanks! I did as you suggested and it reverts to settings as usual. Maybe I was reading too many posts about random updates :) I couldn't find any common cause that was updating tablets despite OTA being turned off, so wanted to make sure I wasn't at risk.

Thanks again!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Third-party VPNs (with Wineguard enabled) may be able to run upstream of RethinkDNS with a software update release coming this month, per the RethinkDNS devs.

Best of all worlds ... VPNs and RethinkDNS working together. Great for Fire Toolbox mods !

https://xdaforums.com/t/app-6-0-ret...all-open-source-no-root.4144243/post-88314097

https://www.reddit.com/r/rethinkdns/comments/11i264n
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Gen12 Fire Tablets (2022) and Google-branded apps

Edit : now also Gen 13 Fire Max 11 (2023)

EDIT : The instability/incompatabity of Google-branded with FireOS 8.3.1.x may have been mostly resolved with update to FireOS 8.32.0 (per @DB126 September, 2023. Thx) YMMV.

Short list of reported ongoing issues of incompatiblity/impaired function of Google-branded apps on Gen12 Fire tablets (2022) running Google Play infrastructure on FireOS 8.3.1.3 or later:

- YouTube Kids

- YoutubeTV

- Gboard

- Goggle Contacts Sync (affecting Google Contacts)

- Google Calendar Sync (affecting Google Calendar, Google Tasks)

- Google Play Books

- Google Podcasts

- Google Translate

YMMV .

# Edit # More additions:

- Google Earth

- Google Calculator (thx @ayeros)

- GoogleTV (prev Google Play Movies & TV) (thx @jess1708)

From @James62370's Fire Max 11 (f/w 8.3.1.5) ( thx @James62370)

- Google Meet

- Google Fit

- Google Authenticator

- Google Assistant

- Google Translate

- Chrome (fixable with full app permission)

- Google Photos

- GMail

- GBoard

- Google Voice

- Google Calendar

- Google Contacts

From @Kdahls01 (thx @kdahls01)

- Google One

From @blueblazer22x

- Google Play Games (?)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm glad someone is keeping up with this. 🧐
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Oswald Boelcke:
@jose51197 I've removed a link from your partially quoted post. The site you've link is exactly what you've described. We don't allow links to such sites. Please refer to rule no. 6 of the XDA Forum Rules and refrain from sharing of such links in future. Thanks for your cooperation.

Regards

Oswald Boelcke

Senior Moderator
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] johnsmithtetley:
Posting this for all those parents trying to get youtube kids installed, solution works here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/youtube-kid...s-which-are-missing-from-your-device.4524497/

I have a Fire HD 8 (12th Gen) for my child, and this solution allows you to have a simple homescreen with your kids' apps. I haven't tried this with the existing Amazon child profiles and whether it will work (maybe one for another time). This works for now.

Follow the normal process to connect Fire Toolbox to Tablet.

I disabled wifi

Ran the Fire Toolbox to debloat amazon apps, add custom launcher (Evie), installed google services.

I made sure that google play auto-updates was OFF (you can use Fire Toolbox for this)

I then SIDELOADED via Toolbox the 6.37.5 version of YouTube Kids from APKPURE.

I then enabled wifi

Opened Google play and pressed three dots to disable auto updates

I then signed in to Google Play and searched YT kids and again made sure it wouldn't auto-update by pressing 3 dots top right (DO NOT PRESS UPDATE).

I then installed regular Youtube, loaded it up and signed in.

From within regular Youtube I clicked on my profile icon top right, scrolled down and pressed YouTube Kids (I don't think this is necessary, but since that's what I did and it worked I'll note it here).

Finally it works although you lose all the Amazon parental control features. You can restrict things and 'hide' apps you don't want kids to use. The main thing is do not auto-update YouTube Kids.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Spring is in the air ... Amazon Spring/Easter Sale

Easter Sale / Spring Sale On Fire Tablets Including Wireless Charging And Gaming Bundles

Easter Sale And Spring Sale On Amazon's Fire Tablets Including Wireless Charging And Gaming Bundles, Kids Tablets 7 inch, 8 inch, 10.1 inch.

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] golfgirl8350:
I just purchased a 2nd Fire HD8+ tablet and did all the usual things using Tool Box. One thing that didn't work: downloading contacts sync. To fix this, I went to APK Mirror and downloaded an older version.

Google Contacts Sync 10 September 9, 2019

It worked like a charm. Here's a link: Google Contacts Sync
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Kipotlov:
Hello,

I have a little problem with the latest version of Nova Launcher on Fire 10 (11th Gen.).

I was using the "Shortcut launcher" option (with Automate) and the Nova Launcher version that is installed with Fire Toolbox (version 6.x). Everything worked.

I updated Nova Launcher to the latest version on Google Store (version 7.x) and the Nova Launcher doesn't show anymore on the Home button. If I tap the icon on the Fire Launcher, so the application work well.

If I put back the version 6.x it's work again, but i can see that the version 6 is way more slower that the version 7, so I would prefer using the latest version.

Is it possible that it's only a question of package or activity's name? Do you think an update of the configuration of the flow in Automate could fix the problem?

Thank you!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
With a recent update, Google may have made Google Contacts Sync app part of "protected" Google Play Services infrastructure and removed it from Google Play Store and eliminated access to current updates. Same for Google Calandar Sync and Google Play Services app itself.

Your older version of Google Contacts should eventually update itself when Google makes its periodic updates to Google Play Services.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dweezle:
I just upgraded my router to one that supports WiFi 6E and WPA3 personal. When I try to log onto any band coming from the router on my Fire 10 HD I geet this connection protocolthat I amnot familiar with how do I connect? My other devices, both Windows and Android, do not do this.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Hey, congrats on the new router! As far as the tablet not connecting, I'm no network specialist (so I could be wrong here, please someone correct me if so), but I'm guessing the tablet's WiFi chip doesn't support the PEAP protocol.

I know Fire Tablets (specifically the older ones) prefer a 2.4GHz band, and WPA/WPA2-Personal security. I think some routers have the ability to create additional access points with different WiFi profiles. I would assume your router supports this? Try checking the WiFi settings for your router and if available, try creating a new access point for your Fire Tablet (and other devices that don't support PEAP with a 2.4GHz band, and WPA/WPA2-Personal security.

Best of luck and please let us know if you have any additional questions or concerns. Have a good day friend!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
@dweezle

From my very limited user understanding, PEAP/EAP in an "enterprise" level network authentication protocol.

I've encountered similar issues trying use my Fire tablets (and other devices) to access wi-fi on university campuses and big corporate networks. It looks like you've connected to the 5G band on your new router but lacking proper "CA certificates" needed for authorization/authenication to login to the network. Proper credentials were needed from IT services to gain necessary "priviliges".

Are you accessing a typical "home" ISP network? Try their tech support for correct protocols.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ah, yeah that's right. Probably is missing a certificate. But yeah, probably an overkill if its meant to be a home network.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Why shopping on Amazon isn't nesssatily cheaper nowadays ... but great for Amazon's bottom line !

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When selling on Amazon, it's essential to account for various costs. Here's a detailed breakdown of all Amazon seller fees, including updates for 2024.

www.repricer.com

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Competition for the Amazon Buy Box is fierce in 2024, but your products can win it by outperforming your rivals in these ten key areas.

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ForForkSake:
Fire HD 10 8 Doesnt support 802.11 ax

Fire Tablet Specifications: Fire HD Models | Fire Tablets

Select the Fire tablet device you want to see. Fire HD 10 (2023, 13th Gen) Fire HD 10 (2023, 13th Gen) Fire Max 11 (2023, 13th Gen) Fire HD 8 (2022, 12...

developer.amazon.com

Wifi	802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (dual band)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ItsZuri:
Hello!

I have a Fire HD 10 Plus 11th Generation.

Fire OS: 7.3.2.7

And I noticed Google Play Games service stopped working for me. I can't use it it seems. Like games won't make use of my account anymore and starting the app itself makes everything load infinite.

I checked the playstore and saw someone else Mention that they had a FireHD and it stopped working for them in the "Review".

I know that this app and account function worked for me in the past but now Games can't access the account or my cloud anymore. Did anything happen?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
With a recent Google Play infrastructure update, it appears that the "Google Play Games Services" part of GPS may no longer be compatible with FireOS 7.x . Something to do with SMS permissions not being accepted. Google Play Games app will install but may no be functional on FireOS 7 tablets.

# Edit #

Appears to be transient; resolved with Google Play Games app update and/or Google Play Services update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ItsZuri:
Oh no! Will I never be able to use it anymore on my Fire HD 10 PLUS? Oh nonononono this is really bad.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] phre2:
Since a couple of days I keep getting this message when trying to install apps from Play Store:

"unauthorized apk installation detected. please do not install performance benchmark apks without permission from deviceprot@amazon.com"

Also, when I try to run Fire Toolbox, as soon as I plug both my fire tablet 7, the Toolbox closes.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Not sure what to make of your situation but it may be related to this:

Amazon Fire Tablets mistakenly block sideloading apps

Some Amazon Fire tablets are blocking the installation of sideloaded apps, as reported in Amazon's device forum and other places. When users try to install apps that aren't from the official Amazon appstore, a message stating Unauthorized apk installation detected is shown and the installation is...

www.aftvnews.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] trfr:
I was wondering if anyone could tell me the differences between all the launchers?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

The launchers are all various 'flavors' of the user interface. Notably, they don't contain all the Amazon advertizing that the stock launcher has. They are all centered around app accessibility and not around Amazon's services.

I think Nova is the most popular. It's very 'vanilla' and most Android-like. It's also middle-weight. Evie Launcher is also middle-sized. Niagara and Lawnchair are very lightweight launchers that don't take up much space and are light on resource usage. Microsoft Launcher is, well, it's Microsoft so it's kind of bloated and big and needs more resources than the others.

Any one of them will work along with other launchers that you can get from apkmirror.com or another app store that you like. You just have to choose your launcher for the features you want. You can replace it at any time by just rerunning the tool and selecting a different launcher. (y)

Edit: In many cases, you can just choose one from the play store and install it directly, but only if you have a pre-7.3.2.2 FireOS or v8.x.x.x. Later versions of FireOS 7 will need the custom navbar button to be switched to your new launcher so will require the tool to do it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Maybe only temporary ?! See what happens with upcoming Google Play Services updates. GPS updated frequently, so stay tuned.

Hope it's not permanently "broken" ☹️

# edit #

Transient problem. Resolved with Google Play Games app update and/or Google Play Services update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bla1r:
I have a tablet fire 7 (12), when I connect and open the fire, the fire closes and nothing happens, what can I do about it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rjrizzuto:
I just updated my Fire 10 7th gen. Unfortunately it appears the Google App needed for Google Assistant is not available in the play store for the version of android on my tablet. It's version 5.x.x of the Fire OS. Any suggestions?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Can you see the app in Play Store ? Is it available for download? It was okay 2 weeks ago so something may have changed.

Google has recently begun to "internalize" some of the Google-branded infrastructure apps and had has removed them from download from the Google Play Store. Google Assistant may be one of them.

Google Assistant has always been part of Google app function/infrastructure and remains so. You can still access Google Assistant functions by "Hey Google!" voice or by text thought Google app.

The Google Assistant app is a "shortcut" to Google app and Google Assistant functions; Google Assistant app may have been removed from Play Store, but the Google Assistant functions are still intact.

If you still want the Google Assistant app , you can probably still sideload from a reliable APK repository. Google Assistant app not been updated since September, 2022, but still supports Android 5+ , so it should still support FireOS 5.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Google-branded Apps and Google Play Store

Short list of reported Google-brannded apps recently removed for download from Google Play Store:

- Google Play Store

- Google Play Framework

- Google Contact Sync

- Google Calendar Sync

- Google Assistant (?)

- Google Voice Search (?)

Also Google Play Games app appears to be non-functional on Fire 7.x

Also note recent changes to Android version support/compatibility of some Google-branded apps running FireOS 5.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rjrizzuto:
I'm on Fire 5.7.0.0, 7th gen Fire HD 10

I was able to install the google assistant from the store. When I run it, it says I have to install the Google app first and send me to the store. The store says that my device is not compatible with the current google app. Google assistant wasn't a hard requirement for me, so I uninstalled it.

I did want to report that Gmail works, but when I reply to an email I get a message about a missing service. After I click ok, it seems fine though. For now, I just uninstalled gmail.

So far, no other issues with these apps: Youtube, firefox, libby, Evernote.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Latest and final f/w update for 7th Gen Fire tablets is f/w 5.3.7.3

Strange ... Just looking in Google Play Store.

Current Gmail version updated on March 21, 2023 only supports Android 6+ ; that technically makes Gmail incompatible with FireOS 5 (based on Android 5). Similarly current Google app now only supports Android 8+. When did that happen !?

Google and Gmail and may work better if you sideload an earlier version and block app autoupdate. That's just a guess on compatibility issues.

Given Google's updated and more stringent Play Store compatibility requirements, I wonder if Google Play infrastructure and Google-branded apps have begun generally depreciating FireOS compatability /stability even more aggressively ?! ... or am just I fear mongering ?!

🤔😳
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rjrizzuto:
My tablet says under device model: Fire HD 10 (7th generation)

Under system updates, it says it is running:. Fire OS 5.7.0.0 (659662020) from 2/18/2022

That matches what I see at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS:

5.7.0.0 – February 2022: Latest version for Fire HDX 8.9 (4th Generation), Fire (7th Generation), Fire HD 8 (7th Generation), and Fire HD 10 (7th Generation)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Interesting ... Amazon.com Customer Support only lists f/w 5.3.7.3 as most current update available for 7th Gen Fire Tablets. OTA updates must be different .

Fire Tablet Software Updates - Amazon Customer Service

Fire tablet devices automatically download software updates when connected to the internet. These free software updates include general improvements and performance enhancements.

www.amazon.ca
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rjrizzuto:
Seems like shoddy work on Amazon's part to not have the latest OTA also available on that page.

In any case, it seems like YMMV is the rule here. Due to the age of my tablet, some things just won't be supported. All in all, I'm in a much better place with having access to the google play store. The apps I wanted weren't available on the amazon store at all.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
YMMV is always the rule with Google Play infrastructure and any Fire tablet, regardless of vintage. LOL

Strange that Amazon Support still hasn't updated the 7th Gen f/w downloads ... recent Gen11/12 downloads generally available shortly after OTA rollouts.

#Edit

OTA update releases subsequent to f/w 5.3.7.3 may have been rolled back and removed from current Amazon Supportt.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Gen 12 FireOS 8.3.1.6 source code and release note posted.

FireOS 8.3.1.5 may have been rolled back; download and source code not posted.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dweezle:
You got it. If I change to WPA2 on any band, my Fire 10HD, 9th gen, can connect to that band as always.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] uweee:
Hi guys, tomorrow I will get a brand new Fire HD10 PLUS, ist not on the list of the first page here.

is Toolboxing still possible?

I have to start up the new device without wifi and can try the toolbox procedure, correct?

TIA
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mirek54:
How can I remove this on my navigation bar?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm fairly sure that Toolbox will recognize your new 2022 tablet. Just follow the instructions to set up USB (ADB) debugging on the tablet and plug it in to the computer. Toolbox will tell you for certain if it isn't covered yet. If you get the "Please plug in a supported tablet..." dialog, just report it here along with the codename of your tablet so it can be included in the next update. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Ah, the beloved Device Dashboard! That can be removed under Modify System Settings > System UI tab > Device Dashboard toggle. Just switch it off. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
HAHAHA... lol! :D:highfive:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
[QUOTE [MENTION=224284]PoPs[/MENTION];78791772]I make tech you tube videos and always give credit to xda developers whose programs/ ports that i use. And to see persons giving so much discouraging and distasteful comments its just heartbreaking those individuals don't understand how long it takes to put all this together and this maybe the reason why we don't see lots of cool projects like before it all because of those discouraging comments. I always appreciate every thread here whether it works, has bugs or doesn't work at all. Because if it was left for some of them they would definitely not not know what to do. I also wish to add that if i had the resources i would definitely support all threads here which help me out.

People please lets not promote hate here. Lets all encourage each other

#Peace [/QUOTE]

Very well written [MENTION=224284]PoPs[/MENTION]. I totally agree with you. We as a community need to support each other. IF we can't do that then we aren't doing it right. In addition, thank you for your support with the videos and everything. It's so cool and kind of you! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
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In accessibility activate parentalcontrolhide

hmm, I will look into this and ask Rotiz! thank you for bring this to my attention! :D:good:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ah, that makes a lot more sense! thank you for clarifying. But yeah, I would say its a UTF-8 problem as well.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
No problem! I just love helping the community! :D

BTW, V2.0 is coming pretty soon!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Removing everything Amazon has a few issues right now. it will give you trouble if you do remove everything Amazon.

[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, this can only be done with root. However, I guess it could be an option for rooted devices. Let me know if this interests you and I will possibly add it as a feature. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Unfortunately, you will need to use the Revert tool or perform a factory reset. the "Remove Everything Amazon" tool needs some work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Dude, you literally did what you claimed you don't do. You did come on the forum and cry about the Toolbox not working and then you insulted me and my code. I also don't know why you're being so rude to everyone else. They are just trying to support me because they really do appreciate my work.

Explains why you left your comment instead of just pushing the thanks button. :confused: