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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
It's looking like I may have to perform yet another factory data reset due to the fact that after I installed the latest version of the ftb on a different windows computer and connected the computer to my phone, now in my settings I don't have some of them that I had previously. Such as the accessibility setting section, I'm beginning to wonder if my fire 7 9th generation tablet is possessed or something. 🤔
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jbond_13:
ok, I get that I did one tablet fire 8 8 generations and then I tried another one day later. it has failed every time I try to do it. it may clear the tablet somewhat but on the HOME page it stills has the listing for Library and For You and Home. on the one that works this was all removed from the system along with the lock screen. \It has never worked again and I have tried every night for just about a week with no differences

anyway, u can steer me in the right direction to fix this issue, I really like the clean tablet to work with.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Disney Plus is on Amazon App Store and installs and works per normal, but you've locked Amazon down.

Disney Plus app is also on Goggle Play Store , BUT for some reason, IS NOT listed on GPS on Fire HD10 , but downloads and installs from GPS on my phone!? Amazon block , again?

However, it appears Disney Plus is also available for most Android devices IF you subscribe FIRST. App download from Disney Plus site after registration. May be a "free" trial period. Will this work on Fire tablets? TBD.

See :https://rantent.com/disney-plus/android/

Disney Plus devices: what platforms can I watch the streaming service on?

Watching DisneyPlus comes with options

www.techradar.com

As always caveat emptor.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
May be I'm CRAZY, or has something changed on Google Play Store installed on Fire tablets ?

I had originally installed Google Play suite manually from APKs ... before I discovered Fire Toolbox.

It appears that most of the "brand name apps" such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Office 365 and more, are listed in BOTH Amazon Appstore and Google Play Store. I have chosen to install these apps from GPS to avoid Amazon Appstore wherever possible to avoid OTA upgrades.

However, researching a post tonight, I found big names as Netflix and Disney Plus are NOT listed on GPS on my Fire tablet, but download and install normally from GPS on my Android phones. Weird.

Am I crazy, or is Amazon snooping and blocking some GPS apps on Fire Tablets? Amazon hacking GPS?

Licensing? Probably ... but how can Amazon actively block listings on GPS?

This may have something in common with the Amazon for Tablets "upgrade" clashes re: Amazon Shopping this week.

Thanks, Amazon ! ... again!

ADDENDUM: Interesting that I could find Android APKs for download for Netflix and Disney Plus, also Android TV versions.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mydave1:
Perhaps (????) part of the issues has something to do with things like Widevine L1 certification. Netflix has a list of Android tablets that are certified. Amazon tablets after 2020 are NOT in that list.

I encountered similar issues as yours with conflicting apks. Too bad that the giants fight each others for dominance and we consumers pay for it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Going to do my best and explain what I think (could be wrong, please someone correct me if so) is going on with Netflix and Disney not showing up in the Play Store. But, I'm going to use Netflix in the explanation just as an example.

You can pull up Netflix's page in the Play Store... but it just states that "Your device isn't compatible with this version". If you check the App Details, you'll find that Netflix supports Android version 7.0 and above. It's likely not allowing us to download and install due to a few issues that plague the Fire Tablets.

Firstly, the Fire Tablets are not Play Protect Certified and according to Google, this means that:

However, it's also important to know that upon running a SafetyNet attestation, it appears that the "CTS profile" check fails (due to the device not being Play Protect Certified?). According to the Android Police (shortened):

So to wrap this all up... I believe apps like Netflix and Disney are hiding their listings in the Play Store due to lack of SafetyNet check passing, and the tablets not being Play Certified. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hey guys, long time no see!

Just wanted to jump on here before bedtime and just let you all know that I really appreciate the support you've all shown me during these last few years. I will be honest, I took a few glances at the forum during my break... and just seeing the supportive comments you've made towards each other and me just really tug at my heart strings, and I just wanted to say THANK YOU all for being so kind and supportive. I was talking to @Davy49 tonight, and I was telling him just how much of a blessing this community truly is! Again, thank you all for everything you do... and let's push forward! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mydave1:
Datastream33​

Hi, just noticed that FTB 28.9 was released. Thanks

A question please. I wonder if you'd care to release a ToolBox for generic Android devices, say GTB for features such as ADB, Push/Pull, Side-loading, etc . . .
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Per Google Play Help:

" What to do if your device isn’t Play Protect certified​

If your device isn't Play Protect certified, we recommend you contact your device manufacturer. Ask for a fully tested, Play Protect certified device. "

" " Please Mr. Bezos, make Fire tablets and FireOS "Play Protect certified" . I just want to play safely with my friends Google, Netflix and Disney " whimpered a meek, tearful @Jumbo100 "

Almost Dickensian !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] EmperorOfTigers:
You're very welcome. We all mean it, thank you so much for all your hard work and dedication. We do very much care about your health. I'm pretty new around here but I can tell it's a great community already.

Also thank you for the update to the FireToolbox. I've successfully got Google Play working on my Fire 7 2022 now which is absolutely fantastic. For some reason Google TV won't load, not worked out why yet. Don't know if anyone else has had this experience?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
@Datastream33 So glad to hear from you ... seems like eons !

Hope you're doing well ... everyone misses you already.

We'll keep the home "Fires" burning until you're ready to come back!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Check GPS Google TV description to re-verify compatibility with your setup.

As you have already discussed with @blaacksheep , FireOS 8 issues with some non-Amazon apps, especially Google apps.

Ref @Datastream33 post today on Fire tablets and Google Play Protect.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Hard not to get trampled by the rampaging "Corporate mega Giants".
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] EmperorOfTigers:
It seems less likely since I have a different Amazon fire tablet with GPS installed and it had Play Movies when it was called that and it's updated to Google TV and still runs. The app itself is still available on the Play Store. It just won't load on the Fire 7 2022 for some reason.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mrdaltro:
I'm trying to disable apps in my newly bought Fire HD 10th generation tablet. OS version is unfortunately 7.3.2.3. Whenever I tried this in Fire Toolbox, I get this error.

" Result: [FAILURE] /system/bin/sh: no closing quote"

Edit: I just rebooted and now it works! Thx for all the efforts
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Understand.

That's exactly the situation. Google TV is compartible with Android 6+ . That's good. And Google TV has worked for you on your other Fire tablets. That's good.

But as discussed above, Fire tablets / Fire OS is NOT certified by Google. Potential problem but do far so good with your other tablets. FireOS 8 is different untried beast, though.

So as a diagnostic, re-verify that on GPS that Google TV IS compatible with your new Fire 7/Fire OS 8 setup. Easy check to make. If it is compatible, problem is something else.

Love to hear hear from other Fire 7(2022)/FireOS 8 users if their having a problem with Google TV and other apps loaded from Google Play Store.

Need to build a consensus on what works and doesn't work on new Fire7(2022).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
"When in doubt ... Reboot" ... funny how many problems that often solves
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] EmperorOfTigers:
How I would I re-verify if Google TV is compatible with my set up. Like on the Play Store it lets me install Google TV and doesn't show a message saying it's not compatible.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Sorry to sound pedantic ... That's the check ... Always eliminate the obvious first.

(I assume you've already tried the other standard Android user fixes like uninstall/reinstall app, flush app caches etc)

So you're good. Problem is not at the Google TV app. So if you've installed Google TV and it crashes on opening, then problem is at the Google Play Sevices / Fire OS 8 level ... that's where the incompatibility is.

Since Google Sevices is a known quantit!y, kind of confirms glitch is probably FireOS 8 specific.

In other circumstances, a FireOS upgrade would often fix it , but I'm not so sure if Amazon is really so enthusiastic to fix a Google problem (or vice versa). I would hope the "bug" is not deliberate !

I defer to the dev pro members for a more technical solution.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] EmperorOfTigers:
Ah no worries. It just seemed too obvious lol.

Yeah I've tried all those plus a few of the other standard sorts like things like checking permissions etc.

Sounds like it being a FireOS 8 issue is very likely. Interestingly the an older Play Movies (before the rename) APK I sideloaded to try would actually boot though it obviously couldn't do much of anything after that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
It's a shame and a disappointment that you can't use the full potential of your new Fire 7 tablet ... I'm sure you were expecting so much more.

Look at the posts earlier this week ... Amazon is willing to inconvenience their own Amazon Shopping clients who dared to defy the "Empire" to make Fire tablets more than an Amazon marketing "appliance".

It would be great if you could post a quick list of the apps you installed from GPS that work/don't work on FireOS8 (especially the Google apps) to identify the scope of the problem on the new Fire 7 tablets. I suspect the situation should be (hopefully) contained to media-comsumption related apps ... Amazon is so subtle! It should be an "interesting" list to see and appreciated by all the FTB community.

Maybe some of the more technically adlept members could suggest some workarounds to at least mitigate some of the damage.

Addendum : Have you had any hardware problems related to FireOS 8 abs observed by some members?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cml.snc:
Hello..

Got this message: "The amazon shopping app. is not suporte by my tablet anymore" open the websurfer instead. Is and older version never update because 7.3.2.2

I'm full debloat, it is posible to update this app only..?? how..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Amazon/Google update clash re: Amazon Shopping app embedded in FireOS and Amazon for Tablet app on GPS.

See @blaacksheep et al posts earlier this week.

No resolution workaround yet. If Amazon shopping, have to use website.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Guess I'm out of the loop... what's going on with the Amazon shopping app?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Started Tuesday with @dcooterfrog , then @blaacksheep on Wednesday , then others.

From my poor understanding of how Amazon Shopping works:

Affects Fire tablets with OTA lockdown per FTB protocol.

Now opening Amazon Shopping, getting "Amazon shopping is no longer supported on this device" flag with redirect to Amazon website.

Flag triggered by Amazon for Tablets app installed from GPS. Not sure how that got installed but it appears to be that a recent app update either Amazon Shopping and/or Amazon for Tablets were updated.

Apparently both apps are related and passoff data internally. (This where I am fuzzy!)

On tablets with OTA-ON no harm; both apps updated in synch.

On tablets with OTA-OFF Shopping for Tablets updated but Amazon Shopping did not; out of synch triggering flag.

@blaacksheep thinks that GPS updated Shopping for Tablets by an accidently open Auto update app.

@blaacksheep took deep dive into app but Amazon didn't leave enough "bread crumbs" to allow rollback. He has no immediate solution.

Am I making any sense? ... still confused on deep tech of apps.

In any event, I think more tablets with locked down FireOS will be affected.

@dcooterfrog got Amazon Shopping again by a factory reset!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Najatski596:
Hey, thanks lmao, but I ended up giving up and rooting and installing lineage OS. No regrets.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
More News @Datastream33 : apparently users with new Fire 7(2022) tablets are having software compatibility problems with FireOS 8. Apparently Goggle Play suite installs from FTB but some GPS apps crash on opening eg Google TV.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Best end all solution my friend! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] avfan:
Another lucky new owner of a Fire 7 (2022), here. I've tried FTB 28.9 but end up with the same problem others have reported where YT Kids won't load, claiming Google Play Services is not installed. Same thing with Google Find My Device. The Crayola Create & Play app just hangs at the splash screen (it works fine on FireOS 7). Other apps listed at the bottom of this post work fine.

Alternatively, after a factory reset, I've tried installing GPS without FTB by just downloading and installing the appropriate 4 APKs as instructed on Wired.com and various other sites, but myself and others are seeing the same problems when doing it that way, as described below:

When I go to open Google Play for the first time, I get to where I can enter my account but when I enter my password, the application crashes. From that point forward, the application doesn’t respond when clicking on “Sign In” and also the Silk browser crashes every time I try to open it. I uninstalled the GPS APKs and now the Silk browser works again.

Here's a list of apps that work ok after installing from GPS using FTB, instead:

ABC Kids

Block Puzzle

Brickit

Car wash

Dinosaur Garbagetruck

Epic

Files by Google

Google Photos

Khan Academy Kids

Nick

PBS Kids

Starfall

Toca Kitchen 2

Voli

Happy to try anything else! I have until September to trade in my kid's Fire 7 2019 so hoping to see this solved before then.

I found another thread from last year where some people encountered this same error message that claims GPS is not installed. However, in that case it was not related to FireOS 8:

https://xdaforums.com/t/solution-app-wont-run-without-google-play-services.4375607/

The solution found there was to install Google Framework 11 (instead of 10) and grant various permissions, like autostart. I haven't tried this on my Fire 7, but maybe there's a clue there to help FTB solve this problem?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jjkjustin:
I have a new Fire HD10 Plus and I've used FTB to get Nova Launcher running. Everything works smoothly, but my home button doesn't do anything when pressed. Is there a solution for this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Thanks for the software list ... interesting mix of Google and non-Google apps.

Bottom line ... There is a software incompatibility between FireOS 8 and Google Play Services at some level. Total extent is still to be dtermined. All apps installed from Amazon Appstore are generally clean, some Google Play Stores apps are made "buggy". Goggle Play Services made unstable.

Two suggestions which might some difference:

1. Confirm your set of APKs for Google Play are similar to what @blaacksheep used in a tutorial specific to FireOS 8 @ post # 9406.

2. If you have installed an app from Google PlayStore which ALSO listed in Amazon Appstore, to avoid clashing software updates, either set AAS Autoupdates to OFF , or app on GPS Auto Update to OFF. Per Fire Toolbox protocol, come users do both.

Situation appears to be residual aftermath of 2017-2019 Amazon/Google corporate feud. Amazon will not deliberately "kill off" Google Play Services but has make subtle changes to FireOS over time to make life "inconvenient" to those that try to evade the Amazon "family fold". This is bigger than Fire Toolbox at the moment

Your experience shows interference, even just to use Google Sign-in.

This appears to much more than just a "buggy" roll out of Fire7(2022) / FireOS 8 ... it may be by design.

From past experience Amazon will show no enthusiasm to improve the matter.

No immediate solutions from XDA/Fire Toolbox communities at this time.

Caveat emptor.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
Now I'm somewhat embarrassed due to datastream actually mentioning my name in a comment, I'm proud to say that I consider him a 'long distance' friend. I have an additional 'long distance' friend that's a software developer that develops firmware that allows various computer's..etc. to be able to run the chrome o.s., which is actually a variant of the linux o.s. . He recently informed me that he's now actually working with google to improve upon their new chromeos flex o.s. . I feel extremely fortunate to have friend's like these, even though they are 'long distance' ones. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
I find this comment very interesting due to the fact that I wasn't aware that we had the capability to be able to root any of the fire tablets, if that's the case it would change everything. :cool:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cml.snc:
^^ Not any a few only

I have an fire hd 10 (2021) 11 generation "trona" couldn't find any
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
^^^ I have an even older HD 10 (2019) and that is only marginally rootable (there's a couple threads that people have had success with temporary root) but I haven't been brave enough to try yet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pajo1999:
Hi, i keep getting an error when launching the toolkit. it says debugger could not be installed and the tool cant run and then a long path to a file etc. Would you have any idea how i can solve this? thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Aha ... NOW I see the light!

"there are none so blind as those who will not see"​

Amazon and Intrusive business practices

https://xdaforums.com/t/amazon-and-intrusive-business-practices.4429863/

Explains so much of recent FTB hassle with GPS.

Also explains FireOS 8 chaos.

It IS deliberate .... Thanks, Amazon ... Again !

" Welcome to the Collective ... Resistance is futile ! "

Caveat emptor.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cr08:
Apologies if this is in the wrong place but was not sure the appropriate location to put it. And given this is potentially related to the use of Google Play Services on these fire tablets and the use of the tweaks from Fire Toolbox, it seemed apropos.

I have an HD 7 that I picked up on prime day mostly to replace a dead cheapo Chinese tablet I bought for like $20 a few years ago. It had been in use as an interactive calendar mounted on my fridge but the touch screen died so the HD 7 is supposed to take its place.

The app I am using called aCalendar seems to have issues where after a period of time it seemingly loses access to any calendars loaded in via GPS/Google. I have to go back into the calendar selection menu and my entire Google account listing is gone until it reappears maybe a minute later. The old tablet never had these issues but they had all the Google services natively loaded.

Are there any known quirks or bugs with how GPS operates on these devices that I'm not aware of? Maybe some potential tips to try and solve the above issue I'm having?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] morreale:
I am new to FTB. Picked up two Fire HD 10s during the PrimeDay sales and used the current FTB at the time to configure them. I noticed there has been a few updates to the tool since then and was wondering if there is anything I should be doing after the tool is updated in regards to devices that have configured with previous versions?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
@Datastream33 , @blaacksheep

Sorry I EVER doubted you guys about OTA/AutoUpdate
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] theobviousthrowahway:
Apologies if this has been asked previously (there are a ton of comments to sort through).

Haven't installed anything quite yet, but I'm curious if the Play Store will show up on the Kids+ interface (or kids profile)? And if not by default, is there a way to get it there manually?

Using an Fire 8 10th gen (2020).

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi.

If you managed to replace your launcher, shut down OTA updates, install Google Services, and disable any Amazon apps you didn't want with the version you used, then no. The latest updates were to get Google Services links repaired and to update the launcher replacement method for those having FireOS v7.3.2.2+. I don't recall anything new besides just keeping up with current changes. :) (Google Services will keep themselves up to date.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
If you have new Fire 7 (2022) with FireOS 8, be aware of possible software incompatibility with GPS and GPS installed apps. May cause instabilities and crashes of apps. Ref post #9,514 for further implications.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] morreale:
thanks for the reply. yes i manually did the google apps based on the apks that were provided here. the devices are currently in production and working as (far as i can tell) intended
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings, and great question!

Yeah, the way things are going with Amazon, it might be a good idea to expand out more in the future if things get really bad. Been prepping just in case, and a large majority of the tools would work outside of Fire Tablets. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
From your perspective, are things WORSE that I perceived @Jumbo100 post #9,514 ... Scary!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
No, i'd say we're all on the same page here. Just hoping it doesn't get worse.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Amazon FireOS developments ... death by a thousand cuts !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Trebrick:
Just curious is it possible to connect a dualshock 3 controller?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Possible to "root" Fire tablet . Seach related Topics/threads on XDA . Not nearly as connom as rooting phones but generally similar procedure. Requires a pretty deep knowledge of Android/Linux, may require some work on motherboard.

Neat to learn.

"Utere tuo periculo" !!! . Repeat. "Use at your own risk" !!!

Possible risk of "bricking" if things go sideways . From your Windows/PC experience , same as a bad BIOS flash. Not good if it happens.

Do LOTS of research before you try. Outside my risk tolerance.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blowtorchhonor:
While it is true that you can root some Fire tablets, you can't do it for all of them. I have rooted, unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP, and loaded a Lineage on my Fire 7 5th gen. However, I have a Fire HD 8 Plus (10th gen) and there is no current exploit to do any of the aforementioned shenanigans. Getting into TWRP on my 7 5th gen was quite an involved process: requiring me to boot a PC into a Linux Live USB installer and removing the back panel to short a few pins!