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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] VoidShade:
Hi guys, I mostly use my tablet at home so how can I block updates through my router? And what addresses do we type where?

Version 7.3.2.3
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi. If you've read my post on this subject, download the Amzn_blklst.txt file at the end of the post. The text file contains all 6 addresses that we need.:) You need to add them to your router's blacklist of URL's to not allow. This can be called various things, depending on your router's manufacturer. Google can help you find the settings if you have difficulty.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

The absolute simplest way to solve the problem would be to reset the tablet and do it once more, but this time actually follow the instructions! I can't tell what state your tablet is in because I don't know how you can apply changes to something that you didn't install till much later. ??? :unsure: If you want to try and salvage it, make sure you've checked "Run on system startup" on the Settings page, and you've checked the box "modify system settings" on the "Custom Quicksetting Tiles" flow. Also, tap "Start" on that flow. That should be all that's required. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sfair74:
Hi, I have a new 2022 Fire 7. Running FTB 28.5. Getting an error when installing Google services on the framework components.

Has anyone encountered this issue before? Do you have any advice on resolving it?

Thanks,
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jochang69:
Thanks!

The changes were able to be applied, but they disappear after reboot.

I then downloaded Automate manually from the app store. "Run on System Startup" is marked, but I think my issue is that I don't have the "Custom Quicksetting Tiles" flow.

Any idea on how I can add it myself?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I've imported flows from one tablet to another successfully before. If you want to try importing it, I'll attach mine as a .zip and you can give it a go. If it works, you'll probably need to run Toolbox on your tablet to modify it to your needs. Also, you may need to give it the "modify system settings" permission when you import it. I don't remember if a reboot is required.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] moonlonely:
Same. FWIW, I had the same problem when trying to install Google Services Framework for Android 11 manually. Using GSF for Android 10 seems to work though. https://liliputing.com/2022/06/how-...ablet-with-fire-os-8-12th-gen-2022-model.html
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jochang69:
Ah no luck. When I press "Start" I get a failure notice. Oh well. Thank you for all the help :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
did you extract the .flo from the .zip before you imported it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jochang69:
I did. It seems the issue is that Automate requires permission to write secure settings, and that's not possible without root or ADB, and I have no idea how to do either of those. :( I assume that when Toolbox downloads Automate, it automatically applies the permission. Since I downloaded Automate manually from the app store, I wasn't able to code in the permission.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can use the ADB shell of Toolbox to do that. Enter this text into the shell:

pm grant com.llamalab.automate android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS

:)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jochang69:
@Datastream33 would you be able to add an "Install Automate" option into Fire Toolbox for the Quicksetting Modifier subtool for those of us who skipped that step the first time? After setting up the whole device with all of my apps and data, I'd hate to have to reset the whole thing and start from scratch. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jochang69:
Ohhhh I'll give that a shot :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] deckinghalls:
@Datastream33 @blaacksheep Thank you both very much for the replies! The answers have been really informative. I am relieved to say that after clearing the storage for those apps, I have safely rebooted three times without any updating. That makes me feel a lot better! Thanks again and keep up the amazing work!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jochang69:
Do I erase this text first? Or do I add on after it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
just start typing!:)

It won't give you any reply, but then try your tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jochang69:
BWAAAA. IT WORKED. You're a wizard! Thank you! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
One of these days I'm going to get this right... ok, one more micropatch coming out of the pipeline.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok, the micropatch is out!

@sfair74 you may need to delete the previously downloaded apks.

Open the Toolbox, click the Settings icon (top right in the main menu), click the About tab, then click the "Open Installation Directory" button. Then in File Explorer double-click the "bin" folder, then double-click the "Google Services" folder, and now in this folder, delete all APK files (except GAssist.apk if it exists). After deleting the APK files and uninstalling Play Services from your tablet you are all set to try installing Play Services again.

Best of luck, and please let us know how it goes! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] KillerbawX:
I have Framework and install some apps one App Google Keep tells me the playstore update wont work. Some app work but anything tide to google and account seem to not work. Ie Keep / Chrome asks to synce but says account already there
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] prsa01:
Fire hd 10 gen 10 (2021)

Assume I'm missing something obvious. In "about tablet" I get - build number 0020367982212.

I know this tablet isn't one of the problem builds. I'm looking at a used (assume stock) hd10(10) and want to have them send me the firmware version so I can tell if it is a problem. Looking online at ways to get the build number /firmware version don't seem to work other than getting the above number. If I click on "system updates" it just returns to the previous screen, I assume due to blocking updates in FTB.

Does that number convert somehow to the firmware versions people use in this thread (7.3.x.x)?

Is there some other way I can have them get a version for me without risking they accidentally update it? I can't ask them to do it via toolbox. I get the impression they haven't used it for awhile so possible it hasn't updated yet.

Any other related info?

Thanks much!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] moonlonely:
That seemed to do the trick, thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, that's a tough one. The FireOS version number as far as i'm aware can only be seen via the System Update activity, and through the build.prop (which is how the Toolbox gets it).

However, based on the fact that the System activity fails to launch tells us that OTAs have at least been disabled. So this boils down to 2 possible scenarios:

1. The tablet is on a firmware lower then 7.3.2.2.

2. The tablet has been updated to 7.3.2.2 or higher but OTA Updates have remained disabled.

I can't really give you a concrete answer here. You may need to work with the seller to get this resolved. Ask them if they've used the Toolbox before and see if they're willing to do one of the following:

Get the Firmware version for you using FTB (i know you said you can't ask them to).

Pull the build.prop and send it to you.

Run an adb command to get the firmware (let me know if you want to go this route and i'll provide the command).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yay, I did something right! :D

Thank you for letting me know!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
On a 12th gen fire 7 - I'm getting 'failed to obtain the tablets generation info . Exiting!

I've installed adb drivers manually , seems to be recognised in device manager , USB debugging is enabled ..

Any ideas ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
What version of the Toolbox is running? Support for quartz was added in 28.4. You may need to update (to V28.6) the Toolbox via the Toolbox Updater.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
Got it , didn't even consider the updater ...all sorted now, it's been a long day ..

Thanks for the quick reply ..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pmckay:
I have two amazon fires, both Fire HD 10 (11th Gen) (2021)

one is firmware 7.3.2.3 (bad)

and the other is firmware level 7.3.1.9 (good).

(I did a factory reset on the "bad" one while it was "good", and when it connected the network, it upgraded the firmware. Yeah, I know, I should've followed the directions as if I was doing an initial install, dumb)

Just curious, is there a way to copy the firmware between systems? do some kind of backup of the firmware and restore it to the other?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
Most likely nothing to do with the toolkit but it might...

12th gen kindle 7 , installed everything I need for Google , chrome, home, photos, etc , all eventually working but chrome was a nightmare , kept crashing , wouldn't let me sync the account , tried deleting cash / data , installing - reinstalling but couldn't get it working . It also affected the silk browser too so maybe a clue there.

I've uninstalled all Google related schnizzle and will start a fresh after work later.. just wondered if anyone else had experienced similar ..

Otherwise , loving the Amazon free life 😄
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Lol, love humble self-depricarion from those who least need to express it. Hard to imagine life w/Fire tabs sans Toolbox for those who don't appreciate full throated Amazon lemonade. Tip-of-the-hat gratitude (as always)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] vandbjunior:
Hi! I'm from Brazil. I'm having problems when I'm trying to download the google services. Can someone help me? The toolbox updater never stops cheking. Thinkg that may this be a problem

I've already tried using the V27.1 and the V28.1 version. Also, when i click to download the google services, i get a message like this: FAILED TO RETRIVE DOWNLOAD LINKS. Failed to obtain download information from the server. Pleas try re-lauching and executing the tool again. "pastebin.com". And than the app closes.

Using windowns 10.

How i get over this? I can download all the other funcionails, but stil can't getting the google services. What am i doing wrong?

Pleeeeeas, someone help me!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] vandbjunior:
I have the

Amazon Fire 10/10+ (2021)	11
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Have you updated Toolbox to V28.6 yet? The Google Services problems have been micropatched away! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

I see from your pictures that you are using Toolbox v28.1. It has been updated several times to fix these issues. Use the Toolbox Updater to install the v28.4 update, and the v28.6 micropatch. If you've deleted the Updater shortcut from your desktop, just open Toolbox and click the gear in the upper-right corner. Select "About" and then click the "Check for Updates" button. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
Yes, updated and patched ... Gonna have another stab at it tonight...will report either way ,
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Datastream33 says you may have to delete the old apk's:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nathanzachary:
I don't seem to be able to download any updates (to 28.4) or the micropatch (to 28.6). When I then click on the changelog, I get an unhandled exception. Running Windows 7 in a VM, but may try using a Windows 10 VM instead. Any suggestions?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nathanzachary:
Worked just fine with a Windows 10 VM, so it must have been something with my Windows 7 VM.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm running Linux Mint and Virtualbox with a Windows 7 VM. I updated to v28.6 with no difficulties. :unsure: I'm glad you got it working in a VM. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
I've reset the tablet , reinstalled playstore

I've deleted old Apks , reset the tablet and gone through all ok , seems stable apart from I keep getting a notification about gboard won't run without Google play services, chrome sometimes has to be started over again (crashes) until it settles down

***EDIT*** Play store misbehaving as well, regularly have to stop it. Clear data to get it to work..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hmm. I've never had any trouble with Gboard either. It's probably Google Services needs to finish updating itself. Check it in a day or so. Chances are it'll be better. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Zeekthesneek:
I've tried a lot but automate isn't working I'm okay with re-route option but I would prefer the custom navbar one if someone could help that would be great
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Zeekthesneek:
I've decided to just use the other re-route option sorry for the trouble 😅
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
Will do 👍

Just tried using Silk as chrome was unusable and it's behaving the same way , starts up, starts to load a page ( this one 😄) and shuts down within a second or two
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hmm, maybe you did an "extended debloat" using one of the debloat lists and it disabled something needed for proper display of web pages. If you want to have a look at the list of disabled apps on your tablet to possibly re-enable something that looks like it might be needed, have a look at ADB App Control by Cyber.Cat. It's a free Windows program that works on most any Android device and allows you to install/uninstall, and enable/disable apps. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

What exactly do you mean by "not working"? Is Automate installed? Have you granted it the required permissions? Have you checked all the boxes as per instructions? Have you started the flow?

It's a little complicated to set up but explained pretty well by Toolbox. If you didn't follow the instructions exactly, it won't work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
I'll try that , thank you .

It does seem to be Google related though, all the Google apps I've downloaded, chrome, home, photos, go, Gmail... All have significant issues , either crash , can't sign in..

I think I'll factory reset, delete all apks in the toolbox, I'll leave disabling any Amazon bloat and see how that goes as well
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You may want to start without removing everything Amazon. If it's something on a debloat list that you don't know the complete implications of removing it, then you'll be right back at the same situation. Probably better to get everything working first, then start removing things.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
Yeah, I'll do it all systematically and try and pinpoint the issue 👍
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
So, factory reset , did nothing at all with Kindle other than enable debugging , deleted all Apks , installed Google services , left it , had some dinner came back and play store seems ok but chrome crashes , installed the Google apps and none of them work... So I'm lost for ideas other than sack Google apps off for now ...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] footie_33:
Seconding what p2daz has gone through with the new Fire 7 (12th Gen - 2022.) I've used both Fire Toolbox and the "download the APKs individually" method from howtogeek, and neither seem to get Google Play Store / Chrome working. Even after full factory resets & clean Google APK installs, I consistently see problems with apps and sign-ons crashing.

Could the issue be outside of this tool, and the most current APKs just don't take on the new Fire 7 at this time?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
Maybe the case, for now I think I've got things stable . I've only got playstore , gboard and chrome installed and they all seem to be happy , I THINK my issues start when I install too many Google apps .. I've got all other apps I need installed via playstore and they all seem fine ...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's beginning to sound that way. I wonder what they did in FireOS 8 differently from FireOS 7. They may have omitted some file/apk that's needed for Google Services to work properly. Fire tablets aren't "certified" by Google. I don't even think Google and Amazon like each other!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] footie_33:
Good to hear! This gives me hope :)

Did you do anything special in order to get things working? Like, did you wait for a while after you installed the APKs, do a factory reset beforehand, update the google play service via the play store, etc?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
I did all-sorts to be honest but I've just remembered that I upped the DPI to 200 just before things settled down, maybe coincidence but worth a try?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] footie_33:
Copy that. At the risk of being lazy, I may just hold off for a week & give it another go. Maybe the Googlers will have spent some time with OS 8 by then... 🤞🤞🤞
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] p2daz:
It's not DPI :D:D mines playing up again...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I don't know if this is helpful, but I Googled around a bit and found an article specific to FireOS 8 and Google. Most of it is uninteresting, but this stuck out:

Google Services Framework 10 (Do not use version 11 or later. While the tablet runs an Android 11-based operating system, the Android 11 version of this file would not install on my tablet, but the Android 10 version works perfectly)

The link to the article is here.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] redkaku:
What a terrible timing for me to buy my first Amazon tablet right when the newest firmware has blocked the most important toolbox features.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] moonlonely:
Author of that article here - while those steps do indeed work for installing the Google Play Store, it does appear that some apps that require Google Play Services still won't work, including Gboard and YouTube Kids (but the primary YouTube app works). So there does indeed seem to be something missing in Fire OS 8.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tbgallant:
Hey all, new Fire HD 8 here. New firmware but I'm just not using the lockscreen (is it needed??) so no ads. I did install the DNS66 thing to prevent future updates.

I read 'somewhere' in this thread about a different Play Store option that uses less resources. I can't for the life of me find it with searching. Can anybody help me out? Or is this not recommended and I should just install the "Google Play Services' using the Toolbox?

Thanks, Tim
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi Tim, and welcome to XDA!

A couple notes about using DNS66 and adblocking.

DNS66 is not a perfect solution to preventing updates. As a matter of fact, my Fire HD 8 (2020) with DNS66 running just managed to update itself to v7.3.2.3 despite my diligence in turning off WiFi before shutting down/rebooting. I'm going to check out Netguard because it sounds like it may be a better option.

I agree that the lockscreen isn't necessary in many cases and I just disable it.

The thing that comes to mind when you say "Play Store ... less resources" is microG. It's a small footprint set of tools which is used by YouTube Vanced (no longer being updated) that allows it to interact with your YouTube account without Google Services being installed. Might that be what you are thinking of?

If you want to use Google Services like the Play Store and other Google offerings, you're going to need to install "Google Services". Many of Google's apps are just interdependent on Google Framework being installed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tbgallant:
Thanks @blaacksheep , I'm not 'all' that worried about OTA updates to be honest.. maybe I should be? ha

I was thinking of a play store alternative app somebody mentioned (somewhere?) in this thread (I think.. lots of learning here) that was less of a ram/resource hog than the standard Play Store. Though I feel like if you aren't aware of it, I probably don't need to worry about it and just install the Play Store! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The "Play Store" isn't an app, it's a site. You can visit it in your browser. (I think it's play.google.com.) The other thing that comes to mind is Aurora Store. Maybe that's what you wanted.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tbgallant:
Yes thanks, it 'was' Aurora Apps that was mentioned. I'll do some Googling about it. Cheers
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I just revised the link I posted. It goes to the XDA thread about the app by the author.(y)

Edit: Aurora Store thread.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pipsies:
I have a Fire 7, 7th generation. I've enabled ADB and have Toolbox installed. When I plug in my device, Toolbox says there should be a pop-up on the tablet asking for permission, but this never pops up :(. I've tried changing what the tablet is connected as (media device vs camera) but that doesn't seem to make a difference. I've also tried revoking USB debugging authorizations and trying again but no luck. Any ideas? I've tried searching for an answer in this thread but from what I've seen no one has been able to solve it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

Okay, you've tried most of the steps to getting ADB to recognize your tablet, but maybe it's just the order in which you've performed them.

Try this:

Disconnect your tablet from the computer

Turn off USB debugging

Revoke USB debugging authorization from your tablet

Turn USB debugging back on

Plug your tablet in to your computer making sure it stays awake

Set the USB connection mode to PTP (camera) on the tablet

Launch Toolbox

If everything goes correctly, you should now see the authorization message on your tablet. Check the box that says 'Always allow connections from this device' or whatever it says, and then allow the connection. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sparcie32:
Hello, wondering what the backup/restore functions do? Also, is there a user guide or faq for tool? Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] maarten256:
Hey all,

Like some others here, I've not been able to get the Google services to be stable. I did both the manual procedure and the toolbox procedure (with umpteen factory resets) all to no avail.

Running adb logcat it appears to complain primarily about com.google.android.gms.persistent not being able to load, which dies when it tries to create the service com.google.android.gms.gcm.GcmService. (Odd that, since gcm is no longer supported?)

I half wonder if Google Framework 11 is required, I wanted to dig into the error that is thrown out when trying to install that apk, assuming I can recreate it. The other half of me is thinking that something is missing in FireOS 8 but no clue how to figure out what that would be.

It's a shame though, the new tablet seems much more powerful, but without the Google apps it's definitely not as useful.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] maarten256:
I think the system backup is exactly what you'd expect it to be... It stores the state of your tablet in a file on your computer, so you could reinstate it if you ever had to factory reset.

As far as documentation is concerned, I think this thread is your main source of informatiom. The tool itself provides helpful hints. Also, Google is your friend!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gguerra:
By state, I wonder what the includes? Is that just apps, data and settings but not the OS? Could I restore a backup to a different tablet, same exact model? Just curious..