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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Installing the repo packages manually works with Ubuntu, Mint, and most other Debian editions. In other distros, a virtual python environment is required because of Python being system managed and manually installing won't work unless you force it and it could break your system. The installer will create this virtual environment and install the required dependencies automatically. For manual package installation, the required repo packages and command to install them are listed in the Dependencies.txt file included in the installer when you extract it. It also includes a list of the PiP Modules and command to install them after you've installed the repo packages. With Debian, usually the installer will do it on it's own. I've installed Toolbox in the top 10 Linux distros and the only ones that still need to be worked out are Red Hat, Fedora, CentOS and other Red Hat based distros.

It's good to hear that you've got it installed in Lubuntu. I didn't try that flavor of Ubuntu, and I don't know if Datastream did either. I'm going to keep a list of successful installs and what version of Linux they were using along with notes on anything special that needed to be done. Thank you for your report. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] KAZ1RT:
Thanks I knew something's were broken and since im getting a certified refurb model its like 90% going to be updated to latest anyway wondered if the main functionally of installing google play since I will be using it as a streaming/emulation device was going to be broken, also what would be major?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Wrt streaming media apps .

Always bear in mind that even though FirOS and Google Play Services are up-to-date and fully functional, some apps installed from Google Play Store (or sideloaded) may still be unstable/incompatible. The apps are "good" but are malfunctioning because FireOS has replaced/diabled some needed Android apps/libraries with ones Amazon-specific to the Amazon ecosystem. That's why Fire tablets are not fully totally Android compatible and do not officially support Google Play Services.

Media streaming apps (like Disney Plus and Para mount Plus) are most likely to be affected. YMMV. Try to install sn uch apps from AmazonApp Store first; they have been encoded and optimized to run on Amazon tablets. Alternatively, consider using the online web apps for better results where necessary.

Emulation apps may work if they are not too dependent on Google Play Services ... trial and error. Again, checkout AppStore first.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] machado2:
I removed the flows from Automate (used to replace the launcher), and I can't get them reinstalled. Is there a workaroud for that? I tried uninstalling automate, firebox install automate again, but no flows.

Where does it check that it thinks the flows are still there?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's the way that Toolbox was written. It hasn't been adjusted to reinstall parts that it detects were already installed. I suppose that's something that should get looked into later on.

The easiest workaround is to just import the flows again and follow the instructions on the permissions they need. (Usually just check all the boxes on the requested permissions.)

I've attached the 2 main flows that Toolbox sets up (launcher invoker, and custom quicksetting tiles). Just extract the 'flows' folder and put it on your tablet, then import the flow(s) you need into automate, grant the requested permissions, and start the flow(s).

Here's the files. :)

Edit: The flows are also located in the "%LocalAppData%\Datastream\Fire Toolbox V32.4\bin\Automate\Flows" folder on your computer and can be pushed/copied from there, too. (Substitute the version of Toolbox you have installed if it's not current.) (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] M-A-X:
Hey.

I got a fire hd 10 2021 tablet. Sadly it is updated to latest Firmware. Still nearly everything I need works. The only problem is that 'automate' seems to interfere with the speaker, so in twitch and a german streaming App (joyn) i hear a clicking Sound every second from the speaker. It stops as soon as i stop the launcher invoker Flow in Automate, but then i cant get back to Nova launcher (Prime)...

Any ideas how to fix that?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The only workaround that I know of is to turn your notification volume ALL the way down. It should stop the clicking sound, but of course it also stops your notification sounds. 🤷 If that's an acceptable trade off, great. Be aware also that your notification sounds will probably return upon reboot so you'll likely need to do it every time you reboot. :( Lovely choices they leave us, huh? :rolleyes:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] 4x4fiend:
I ran the toolbox on a Fire HD 8 (2022) and all seemed to go fine, however I keep getting a box pop up that Silk Content Service keeps stopping?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That sounds to me like your tablet is shutting down services in the background to free up memory for other tasks. I don't know what apps you run, but maybe they are overtaxing your available resources. You could verify that Silk Content Service is allowed to run in the background under Apps > All Apps> Show System Apps > Battery. If you don't use Silk, you could disable both Silk and Silk Content Service with Toolbox. I don't really know. I've never had that problem, but I don't use Silk and I left Silk Content Service enabled. 🤷
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bittercup:
HI just wanted to ask About the lockscreen, do you have to rerun it if you want to change the screensaver? sorry to post here and ask such a dense question.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

I think you are asking if you have to rerun Toolbox to change the lockscreen wallpaper because there isn't really any screensaver. That's one way to change your lockscreen wallpaper. It can also be changed in some launchers like Nova, if you replaced the launcher. In most cases you just long press the screen in an unused part, then tap 'Wallpapers' and select something else. In Nova, it then asks you which wallpaper to replace: Homescreen, Lockscreen, or both. I haven't played around with the other launchers but I know the option is included in some of them.

No question is a "dense question". Information is knowledge and is always good to acquire. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bittercup:
Ah good Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxmark78:
My 11th Generation FIre HD 10 updated to OS 7.3.2.9 last night. So far, everything is working fine and don't see anything it broke (yet).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] zba78:
I've got both and personally I do notice a difference, especially when running the extra services/mods that the toolbox adds. The plus is just that little bit snappier and does less reloading when going back to an app

Both are generally fine though for basic browsing, streaming etc.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jessejgm:
Is there any solution to hide the status bar?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] saystanislam:
I didn't have such a task. But I think it's doable.

Read adb commands for Android 11.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can use Toolbox to do that by going to Modify System Settings > System UI and toggle Status Bar option.

You can also do it with ADB by using a command prompt/terminal and typing

adb shell settings put global policy_control immersive.navigation=*

(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] robertbrifino:
I tried installing Google services on two of my tablets but Fire Toolbox crashed every time. Never had this problem with previous versions.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bibikalka:
Finally opened my new Max 11 that I bought a month ago - it still has 8.3.1.5

These devices must not sell very well - if they had such an old version still around ...

The latest tool worked fine, no challenges. Chrome does not seem to find the gmail account already present.

Speedwise, just tiny bit faster than my current HD10 2021 - almost imperceptible. If not a good deal - probably would not have upgraded.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Recent tutorial showing FTB 32.4 install on Fire HD10 Plus (2021), by an engineering-type :

Interesting to note:

- demo of using Fire HD10 as a second external monitor for a Windows laptop

- demo of install of Xbx controller running N64 ROM emulator and SteamLink games

- demo of using ChatGPT AI-type voice/camera search on a Fire tablet

Anecdotally read of some users getting these to work on Fire tablets, but first time actually seeing it in action. Mildly impressed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Osromocon:
Dear all.

I’m going to buy Fire tablet 10 from 2023. The only purpose of this purchase is using this tab as wall panel with home assistant. To do that I only need Fully kiosk app install on fire tab. Is this possible on new tab from stock with or without using Fire toolbox?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
I use an app called "spacedesk" (currently free in Play Store) to emulate an extended monitor on several Fire variants. Works great w/Windows; haven't tried other hosts. Number of emulated monitors is unlimited unlike many hardware connections (DP and thunderbolt being notable exceptions). Running five monitors in my professional setup; 3x2K, 1x1K and a Fire tab effectively zoomed to 720p for email, chats, etc where a bit of latency is a non-issue. Touch panel works as expected in Windows.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Best make aa different (non-Amazon) HW choice. You will likely be disappointed with the experience if you choose to battle FireOS.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Osromocon:
THX for reply. I just made such decision. I'll go to Lenovo for similar price.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Battery_life:
Hi,

Is it possible to add battery charging limit (70-80%) to use the tablet connected to power all the time.

Or how can this be done in another way?
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
I'm a regular Chargie user. It generally works well but fails enough to dismiss unattend operation. App uses bluetooth to communicate with the Chargie device. Sustained bluetooth connections are not reliable on Fire devices. Result of lost communication is a 100% charge with no falloff. Ugh.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tonytk003:
How do i turn off data saver mode on my fire max 11. I used toolbox to disable bloatware and try to turn off ota update. But somehow toolbox turn on data saver mode, and now when i watch youtube, it's play 480p. Please help me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
On Fire Max 11 tablets, Fire Toolbox uses "data saver mode" to block OTA updates and is applied to all apps.

You need to selectiively tun on "unrestricted data usage" for any app that requires full data bandwidth.

For YouTube try:

Setting > Apps & Notifications > select See all xx apps > scroll down and select YouTube > select Data Usage > turn on Unresricted Usage
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tonytk003:
THX for reply. I got it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hey Everybody,

Have a great Thanksgiving and try not to let that annoying aunt or uncle bring down the festivities. You only live once so enjoy the small amount of time we are all here together.

My NFL picks:

Lions beat Packers . Wow, Packers won!

Cowboys beat Redskins . ⚡

49ers beat Seahawks , ⚡

Edit: If you're betting, I'm usually wrong 😜
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
For Family & Friends ... A lot to be grateful for !

🦃 🤗
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DRei69:
I just received my Fire 11 max, did not update to 8.3.2.1 so used the Toolbox on 8.3.1.9 and all is well so far, same straight forward configuration as the previous Tablets. Not sure if I should update to latest version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
8.3.2.1 offers some minor refinements, primarily in resource management, with no noticable FTB takeaways once you've crossed the 8.3.1.9 threshold.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] achim_w:
Hello and thanks:

Have Installed Google play on a fire mx 11. But now I have the problem that neither Google calendar starts nor the original calender app.

Anyone with Help?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
TL;DR

Access and sync Google Contacts data using Google web/cloud services from any web browser @ https://contacts.google.com and signing into your Google account.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] achim_w:
A sorry, perhaps I havent described my problem exaktly:

After Installing Google Calender, I could start the app. Then there is kind of a welcomescreen, where you can just swipe to a second welcomescreen then, you have to set, that the calender needs access to the google cloud. If you confirm, the app starts again with the first welcome screen. then swipe to the next, then to the third, you find a field OK, pressing this field, google calender quits
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Longer story.

Google Calander app does not work well with FireOS 8.

Parts of the Google Account management infrastunture that runs on Android has been replaced/deleted by Amazon to suit the Amazon ecosystem. Amazon Calander works , Google Calander not so much. Google Calander installs and appears to work but is not fully compatible with FireOS . Using Google Calander web app eliminates the immediate problems.

Some users have had better success with Google-branded apps with upgrade to f/w 8.3.2.0 or later , but has not been fully vetted yet.

Edit : also try Google Services and Battery Optimizations options in FTB v32.3 and later.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] achim_w:
oops, thanx for the answer. the amazon calender quit working, so I use oneCalender as workaround
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pazu1:
on 8.3.2.1 fire hd 10 2023, google assistant seems working at first time using FTB, but if reboot losing Alexa disable causing google assistant not working.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] grimimp:
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jugernot:
Seems google services URLs are still broken? I see the message saying the URLs should be fixed, but they're still broken... any ideas?

Edit: Seems the problem isn't the URL being used, rather my OPNSENSE router was blocking the AWS url as malware. Opened it up and works great now.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bibikalka:
How does the tablet know your WiFi password? Do they program it via some remote gizmo before it leaves Amazon?

This was always a mystery to me ...

I wonder which passwords it knows. Any WiFi password that was ever linked to your account?

What's the best way to reset this knowledge by the tablet? Change the Amazon account?

P.S. Actually, Amazon talks about this. It seems one should be able either to deregister the device either before it ships, or after it ships. It's a bit cryptic if you just ordered it, I guess if you request a gift receipt for it, it should de-register it since it recognizes that the device is a gift. See this info for more:

Gifting a new Amazon device​

Check the box next to This is a gift during checkout or when you add the device to your cart.

Devices marked as a gift doesn’t contain the account or payment information used to purchase it. A receipt for your gift purchase will be sent to your email.

If you forgot to select This is a gift and the device hasn't shipped, update the gift settings on the order in Your Orders.

If you forgot to select This is a gift, and the device has already shipped, deregister it before giving it to the intended recipient. Go to the Manage Your Content and Devices page. Select the Devices tab, select your device and click Deregister.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Amazon has your wifi password recorded in it's records. Unless you specifically told them not to keep that info, they have it. I spent a lot of time going thru Google and Amazon and told them both to NOT keep that info. (Their compliance is questionable.)

When you buy a new Amazon device, they automatically transfer that info to your device unless you tell them not to do that. (That checkbox that is easy to forget to uncheck.) Then, when you first fire up your tablet, the 2nd thing your device asks is for your wifi password which it uses to update itself automatically it automatically connects to your wifi and grabs any firmware updates as it connects. (You probably won't get through the setup process before it downloads new firmware.) The new downloaded update is still removable at this point, but it's easier to just not have the update.

If you ordered a new tablet and didn't uncheck that box, the easiest thing to do is to just shut off your wifi until you get the tablet set up. PM me if you need specific help. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gnegne:
Apps with built-in google maps access do not detect installed "google play services" (Fire Max 11)

Hi,

I upgraded my Fire HD 10 (9th gen) with a Fire Max 11. I installed google services with the fire toolbox (latest version).

After installation of several apps that are using google maps services for their map view, all these apps (hiking, navigation, ev charge planning) are requesting the installation or upgrade of google play services, which is already installed (22.45.17) by the fire toolbox.

Even upgrading in the play store to the latest google play services version (23.44.14) does not have any effect.

These apps do not detect that google play services are already installed.

Any idea how to solve the incompatibility?

Any idea is appreciated.

best gne
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Try the disabling Battery Optimisations for Play Services option in latest FTB.

May help improve compatibility for some apps but YMMV.

See details in @Datastream33 release notes for FTB 32.3 :

[WINDOWS/LINUX][TOOL]Fire Toolbox V35.0

Fire Toolbox V35.0 All-In-One Toolbox for Fire Tablets! The Fire Toolbox is a collection of useful ADB (Android Debug Bridge) tweaks that can be applied to Amazon's Fire Tablets. The Toolbox project aims to help users fully customize...

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Also some users have experienced better app compatability with f/w 8.3.2.0 and later.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] semson:
Hi everyone,

I just bought a Fire Tablet 10 and looking to apply FTB "fixes". I can see that FTB tries to block OTA updates; does it mean I will either lose OTA capability or lose those "fixes" after applied FTB?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bibikalka:
I read up on this. Apparently, a new Amazon device will quickly connect to other Amazon devices you already have via a private WiFi network (or Bluetooth), and if the serial is attached to the same account in Amazon cloud - main WiFi passwords will be passed along. One can purge this a bit by going to Amazon account / Manage Your Content and Devices / Preferences, and then turning off a few things:

Saved Network Passwords / Delete

Frustration-Free Setup / Disable

Simple Sign-in / Disable

​

Anyone, one can prevent even a pre-registered device from connecting automatically, but of course that checkbox during the purchase is still the easiest to work with.

One can read a lot more by Googling something like:

amazon knows my wifi reddit - Google Search
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gnegne:
Just gave it a try. No effect.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
I was afraid of that. ☹️

Apps that rely on on Play Services on FireOS 8.x have been plagued with incompatabity/instabillity issues (especially the Google -branded apps) . Fire Max 11s may be more prone to these problems.

Over the last year, Google has "encouraged"/forced Android app developers to comply with upgraded Google Play Services security coding protocols that require checking for software compliance with Google Play/Play Store verification/authenticity guidelines. Google Play has some infrastucture (api ?) to check app compliance. One of the criteria is checking that app is running on a Google-certified device. Fire tablets obviously aren't. "Google Play Services not installed error message" is one result.

Interestingly, this applies to FireOS 8; FireOS 7 has not been affected.

There have been various "hacks" to circumvent Google Play verification on rooted Android devices, but unfortunately Fire tablets have no root solution.

Google Maps has a web version accessible from any browser and is not affected; it uses Google's "cloud" infrastucture which is independent of Google Play Services.

** Edit

Some map apps have Amazon AppStore versions which should work on Fire tablets, but may be limited without a full GPS receiver. MapQuest is available.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
One such mapping app that works well with fire tablets is OsmAnd. It is available in the Play store and is probably on F-Droid too. There's a paid version and a free version that allows 7 free downloads of state maps. The only thing that needs to be done is in the settings, change the Location Source from Google Play Services to Android API. It will then locate you on the map. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ishis99:
Hello, is it possible to remove apps on "FOR YOU TAB" and the "ADS" on the Home tab. I am using HD 7 2015

edit: figured out. turning on parental controls did the trick
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DRei69:
This is interesting, I purchased two tablets, one came with 8.3.1.9 and one with 8.3.1.5. The 8.3.1.5 could be fully de-bloated and all the OTA and system updates disabled. Stupid me, I decided to manually update it to 8.3.2.1 which is OK so far, but you have the issue not disabling OTA and other updated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DRei69:
Can someone tell me how I can remove the Data Saver (the circle with plus sign inside of it) from the tablet? The Toolbox did something when it removed the OTA Updates, by changing certain parameters. Thing is, this icon is driving me nuts as there is no data saver options on the tablet and I would like to have the option of removing it. Enabling OTA Updates with the Toolbox does not remove the icon.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Similar issues with my app portfolio vanished after upgrading to FireOS 8.3.2.x. YMMV. Be aware of FTB limitations on newer builds; you can't rollback once upgraded. I personally do not find the restrictions burdensome but others may have a different perspective.