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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gdroid666:
the cmd command doesn't work for me

ok I tried form FTB ABD and cmd works but the other command won't work I changed %username% to my windows username but it keeps saying read only file system and can't create log file
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
My apologies, i should of been more specific.

So close. Try exiting the adb shell using the "exit" command. Then you should be able to execute the logcat command.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gdroid666:
ok I think that worked
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Awesome! Thanks so much for the logs!

Hmm, lowpool... not exactly sure what that means...

Wait a minute...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gdroid666:
So any ideas?

Also what is that whitelist message about,

some of these apps crashed at first but then started working when I was logging

others just work most of the time like photos and gmail , they were working whei I made the log but they were crashing too before,off and on
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I just had a thought... we're constantly getting messages about Play Services missing despite it being installed.

What if, play services IS installed, but isn't running in the background due to battery optimizations?

Try this command in an ADB Shell:

adb shell dumpsys deviceidle whitelist +com.google.android.gms

Then reboot:

adb shell reboot
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gdroid666:
ok I did it but it is actually worse now, now everything just crashes right away
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Try Clearing the data (storage) and cache for Play Services, google Services Framework, play store, and account manager.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gdroid666:
it is still doing the same thing should I have rebooted or re ran the commands after clearing cache and data?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm...

Maybe try uninstalling Play Services and re-installing. Then immeditely after install try running the whitelist command? It's also possible that Amazon has a different method of optimizing battery usage... could you send me a screenshot of the app info for the play services app?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gdroid666:
woah it seems to be working now, you are a genius!

I did't uninstall play services I just cleared all the cache and data again but this time in a different order (I forget which order exactly now) and then I ran the

adb shell dumpsys deviceidle whitelist +com.google.android.gms

command and then adb shell reboot command and unplugged the tablet from my PC and now it seems to be working!

weird thing though is that for the most part the Google apps were not crashing gmail, photos, maps, revanced, all worked, gmail was crashing intermittently though but it was other non Google apps that were giving me the most problems.

some of them probably used used Google recaptcha for log in, one for sure that I know.

Also I still am getting notifications on some apps about play services not being installed.

I wonder if a script to make thee changes could be implemented into the next FTP version or a micropatch, seems like others have had these issues too
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] astefan2:
Hello all,

since yesterday I have my FireTablet 10+ (FireOS 7.3.2.8) and therefore until now little experience with FireOS. As a test, I had installed the Google Service with the Fire Toolbox V32.2 yesterday, but no updates via Google Play. However, I wanted to get to know FireOS in the original first and reset the device to factory settings via the settings. My assumption was that then all changes to the Fire Toolbox V32.2 are deleted?

In the meantime, I have already reset the device several times to factory settings (and made no changes afterwards), but every time I go to the Amazon Appstore after the reset, it says under updates for the Amazon Alexa app: "Sideload der App wird durchgeführt" (literal translation: "Sideload of the app is in progress") (see screenshot). I have not installed or changed anything on the device yet. Updating Amazon Alexa also works (it installs a newer version) and then the message is gone. However, I wonder what is meant by sideloading in this case. Where does the store load the update from if not from the Amazon store?

Is this normal that the Amazon Appstore tells me something about sideloading? Downloading APK files via Silk (no other browser installed) is not allowed. I am very confused, do I have a security problem here?

Thanks a lot!

astefan
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] g1230g:
Hi All,

Any words of wisdom for installing Fire toolbox on Linux O/S for the purpose of Fire Table HD 10? Anything to look out for or to be aware of? Is it still in beta for the Linux install? I do have an OLD version of Windows on my duel boot - however - Windows will not update due to age. So I am stuck with installing on Linux, which appears to me to be more complicated than the Windows install. Thanks in advance for any input or thoughts!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Well, the Windows version is much further developed than the Linux port. (v32.2 vs v3) If you have a Debian edition of Linux like Ubuntu or Mint, the Linux port is pretty straightforward to install and use. If you have Windows 7 on your dual-boot setup, there's just the problem of getting the ADB drivers installed but there are directions in the first post. I have a dual-boot setup and mostly use Mint. I'm running the Linux port on it and it runs pretty well. I also run a Windows 7 virtual machine with Toolbox v32.2 installed. I DON'T have Toolbox installed on my Windows 10 partition. So, you aren't stuck installing it on Linux if you don't want. It runs fine on Windows 7 (and probably on XP as well).

If you do install the Linux version, make sure to follow the instructions to find out which version of Python is installed in your distribution so you can download the appropriate installer. Then just grab the file you need and extract it to a folder in your home directory, read the .txt file for instructions to install it. It's fairly simple. You just need to change the permissions on 2 files and then run the installer.

It's your choice. Whichever you choose, good luck and let us know how it goes. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I have a new HD 7 that I have made as close to Android as possible. However, I use Gmail and my contacts don't populate the To field when I use the keyboard. Also, Gmail simply closes when I finally tap the Send button the email is saved as a draft without sending it. I also have an HD 8+ which is setup pretty must the same as the HD 7, but has none of the above problems. Any help is appreciated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] I kelly:
Hi, thanks for this. My automate is missing launcher invoker, I have tried to import your file but it says ``flow created with newer version 96'' and the import button is disabled. I can't import the involved and its not available on the community. Csn you help?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] astefan2:
Hi, please can anyone help me with my topic? Is this normal/not untypical or should I have any security concerns? I factory reseted the device and the message still remains. Is my device still secure?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] g1230g:
Thanks for the reply and the feedback - that does help me.

I am actually Linux Mint and I actually do have Windows 7 on the duel boot and I do remember seeing the ADB drivers error come to think of it.

Yes, I did see the instructions at the very beginning of this thread and they do seem somewhat straight forward - so thanks to the original poster for that.

I believe I will attempt to install the toolbox onto my Linux system - I need to learn how to do it anyway and am always up for learning something new regarding Linux.

Thanks again for the input and I will report back.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Thanks for the reply and the feedback - that does help me.

Linux Mint has Python v3.10.x in it so you'd grab the link for Toolbox for 3.10 and not the one for 3.11. I had absolutely no problems with this on Mint. It's almost as though he wrote it for Mint and then adapted it to other Debian distros as needed. I think that's one of the main reasons this will be in beta for a while - there are too many different linux distros to count and some require additional steps for success. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

My Fire HD8+ does a similar thing when reset but does not use the word 'sideloading'. I use the English language version and it simply says 'updating'. I don't think this is a concern. The system protected apps are updated the same way the firmware is updated - through the OTA Update servers, so it might be differentiating this in the German language version. Some system update files are simply updated app files, and when applied don't change the f/w version number. Your firmware version probably doesn't give you the chance to disable OTA updates so if you'd like to remain on a version, you'd need to either firewall the OTA apps or block the update servers.

TLDR - Yeah, that's normal and you're probably secure. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

If you've got Toolbox installed, and with it the Google Play store, go to the Play Store and update your Automate to the latest version. If not, go to Apkmirror or a similar site and grab a copy of the latest version to sideload. (I think it's even on F-Droid.) Once you've updated Automate, try again and it should work. The latest version is 1.38.3.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I uninstalled and reinstalled Gmail. No change. It saves to draft when I tap Send. I cleared storage and cache for Play Services, google Services Framework, play store, and account manager and rebooted, but no change. The email is saved as a draft, and Gmail closes without sending the email. Please help. Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If it helps, I use Thunderbird for email. It's by Mozilla and like Firefox, it's NOT Google. I manage 3 accounts on it and it works well. I did have to use an external app to synchronize my contacts but it's a small detail. With all the difficulties getting Google Services to work properly with Amazon, I thought it would be easier to manage this way.

Edit: I think it can even sync itself if you sign in to Mozilla, but I never do because I like to keep my info as private as possible, so I don't have an account.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Thanks for the reply @blaacksheep. However, as I mentioned, I have an HD 8+ setup almost identical to the HD 7, and Gmail works perfectly. Go figure. I really like the form factor of the HD 7; more portable. Since I received it, my HD 8+ has been relegated to being a TV set streaming YTTV News.

There has to be a simple answer to my issue. I'm familiar with Thunderbird, but I'd rather stick to Gmail.

Thanks again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It was just a thought. We all have our preferred apps. I wish I knew more about why Google Services is such a problem on the new tablets.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
But why is the HD 8+ immune?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mirakulixs:
Hey....

i cant find fire OS 8.3.1.5 in the web, only 8.1.3 and 8.1.4.

Can anybody help for downloading fire OS 8.3.1.5?

And how can i install an APP as Systemapp?

regards
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I don't know. Why is my HD8+ (2020) so different than my old HD8 (2020) that's only 1 firmware version greater (v7.3.2.7) than my old HD8 (v7.3.2.6)? What firware versions are you comparing? Are both the same year? Why does Amazon make it so hard to defeat their intents? Why does my Amazon driver always park next door and walk over when there's a spot directly in front of the house?

Tune in next week for answers to these and other questions. Same Bat time, same Bat channel!! (Sorry, I went away for a moment.) 🙃
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I traced back this thread and discovered the reason for your trouble. Datastream33 wrote a special modified Lancher Invoker flow for monish92 for his bluetooth keyboard with a physical Home button. You tried to use it on a normal fire tablet without the physical button so the flow says "No Activity found to handle Intent" because it could not find the button to 'press'. What you need to do is use the normal Launcher Invoker flow, which for some reason didn't get transferred during the process. I'll look around and find mine and attach it because I know how difficult it can be to get it to re-install that flow. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I did another test. It's the Gmail app and widget. Everything is perfect of I use Gmail in the Chrome browser.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I don't know if someone has a copy of the OTA update to v8.3.1.5, nor why the need for that specific firmware. Hopefully someone's got that stashed away and can help you. I've got v8.3.1.3 because it fixed the majority of the Google Services problems and didn't break the launcher replacement ability. Maybe someone here has a copy of v8.3.1.5.

I don't think it's possible to install an app as a 'system app' without having root privileges on the tablet, and no one has root on FireOS 8 that I know of.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JChu2:
Poorly written sentence on my part.... And I suspect that it's (if it's a problem at ALL - like many people, I sometimes don't read carefully enough, but the GOOD sites take that as a given, as they SHOULD) a problem, it's XDA's problem. The link or button to download your product should pretty much glow in the dark, ... which is my way of saying that while I'm increasingly aware that as with Alexa, Amazon is content to get "C" marks if their products are profitable enough without putting their A-team to work on them ... BUT YOUR SFTW is wonderful enough to up their grade to a "B" for many of us. I've now been using it for a couple of months all the time, ... and I take back almost all of anything I wrote that sounded "harsh." Note to self (and plenty of others) - it's PEOPLE LIKE YOU ... whose efforts - never well-rewarded directly, I'm sure - spell the difference between computers being a slog ... and getting good and fun things ACCOMPLISHED.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Correction. It's the Chrome browser. I installed Edge, which I hate, and it worked fine. I guess I'll try Thunderbird next.

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tickleyourpets:
I can't seem to set NovaLauncher as default.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] abesimpson661:
Any way we can update Disney+? App says new version available
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
Has anyone any ideas which (amazon?) app is responsible for spamming my ad-blocker with blocked calls to device-messaging-na.amazon.com ?

Long story short, I think a system update snuck through (as I saw I had Kindle on my Fire 8) and gave me all manner of unwanted system apps. I've debloated again with the TB but that's not resolved matters.

My tablet is the 8 10th gen (onyx) on 7.3.2.7

I think I might have got some of it and reduced the spamming. I disabled a batch of unknown (to me) system apps via the TB and the spamming seems to have slowed. It may have been Alexa was a culprit. There's a batch of other system apps that look new to me but I'm reluctant to zap them, so some pointers would be appreciated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

The calls you're seeing are likely from Amazon Device Messaging servers trying to give intent data to apps so they can display notifications. Could be first party Amazon apps, or third party. You could try using PCAPDroid (if you're using the restricted OTA method - dont use it if you're using Rethink as PCAP uses a VPN service which would disable Rethink and you'll probably receive an OTA update) to see what app(s) is responsible.

Be very careful when disabling system apps... We've noticed that a lot of the Amazon apps are very dependent upon one another and things are liable to break. I'd highly recommend making a system backup just in case your tablet soft boots if a system dependent app is disabled.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Just updated the download for Disney+ in the Hybrid Apps tool. Just launch the tool and it will update you to the latest version. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

May I ask which tablet you have, and which Launcher Activation method was used? Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Oh hey, let's go!! We got to the bottom of it! 🎉

I'm wondering if the Google apps maybe include the libraries that the other apps need, or perhaps the Google apps were waking up Google Services when it was killed in the background? Not entirely sure on that one.

Have you checked the Play Store for an update to Google Play Services? Perhaps an update will help further?

Alright, I'll be sure to add the whitelist command to the Google Services tool after the install operation completes. Again, thank you so much for the log, as that helped pinpoint where the issue lied, and without it we may never of figured it out. Pat yourself on the back my friend! :D

It's been a few days so may I ask how it's been going? Are the apps stable, or is there still some issues?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I was wrong. Sorry. The problem is the Gmail app. Using Gmail on the Chrome browser is funky, but works. I really prefer using the Gmail app. I hope someone finds a fix. Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
Thank you. That PCAPDroid is a fantastic app, just what I needed to help my investigations. A Wireshark-like snooper. I also found Packet Capture that does a similar job. The culprit in my case appears to be 'netd' which obviously I won't be disabling! They're just doing a job, it's the employer I'm after!

You're quite right in advising I exercise caution in deleting/disabling system apps, It's a dangerous game of whack-a-mole is life with Fire, and I've nobbled myself before - been there, done that. Slowly slowly, I look carefully and consider/investigate before I hit the zap button. The above tools help the process, thank you.

Right now, the Fire system update says I have 9 apps to update, so I know I'm getting there and I've whacked some bosses. Onwards...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mirakulixs:
Yesterday i updated my Fire HD 8plus 2022 12th generation to Firmware 8.3.1.4 and it runs realy perfect with Novalauncher and GApps!!!

But u must be carefully...after update disable WLAN on device, or better, turn off the WLAN-router before updating, because after update the device search and want update/install the next Firmware (8.3.1.9) that cant google apps!

Thanks guys for help and great introduction on Site 1.

Regards
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Hittsy_TW:
I spoke with an amazon rep, who had a ticket filed for some apps like peacock and ESPN not working when google play is sideloaded. They told me that certain apps (peacock, espn, nebula, etc) were throwing a ModuleUnavailableException from the google framework... But now on the latest release, fireOS 8.3.2.0, those apps are now working. Has anyone had any other issues with google apps on the Fire max 11?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dc-:
Peacock updated their app just over a week ago for just this issue. it worked and Peacock started working. That was with fireOS 8.3.1.9.

Today I updated to 8.3.2.0 and to my pleasant surprise, now Google 1 is working.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] toxicfish:
wow wonder if they fixed some stuff, im worried that i should keep mine to 8.3.1.9 incase one day it gets fully supported by FTB but at the same time would like to see if this fixes the google issues with some games i have like albion online and leauge wild rift and some of the google apps too :) plus i discovered that spotify and youtube dont use the Dolby features on the fire 11 but recently i set up jellyfin and im unsure if the tablet uses it on there but it sounds much better quality and less flat so may be a workaround for people experiancing issues with dolby stuff on the fire 11 max
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Hittsy_TW:
Google apps seem to work, league wild rift seems to work (might need to install google play games), google play wouldn't let me install albion online.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] toxicfish:
yeah i could install both wild rift and albion on 8.3.1.9 and their launchers would download but i would get an infinite loop after both installers hit 100% . The google play games fixed yugioh but not them too, i might update to see if they work but would like to keep my firmware as low as possible for future FTB updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Bisonator:
Hi

My device/software: Amazon Fire Max 11, software version: 8.3.1.5 & Toolbox V32.2

During the Setup Tour, "Google Services" step, I'm having trouble installing the "Contacts Sync" additional service.

I get this error after clicking "Execute":

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Fire Toolbox V32.2

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INSTALLATION FAILURE:

adb: failed to stat D:\PortablePrograms\Fire Toolbox V32.2\bin\Google Services\Android 11 (x64)\ConSync11.apk: No such file or directory

---------------------------

OK

---------------------------

I've tried uninstalling Play Services and reinstalling via the Setup Tour, but keep getting the same error.

EDIT: Additional info:

I think I understand this a bit better now... The version downloaded into the above folder is named "ConSync10.apk" but the Toolbox is expecting "ConSync11.apk". I've manually renamed the file and the Toolbox installed it, but I still don't have my contacts syncing from my google account.

Any help would be much appreciated. :)

Cheers

B
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Interesting. 8.3.2.0 is not yet available in the U.S. Looking forward to this drop; hopefully restores parity with previous generation Amazon gizmos.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
My new HD 7 is setup perfectly. But I'm using a version of Nova Launcher 6, because some of my apks are incompatible with version 7. I have setup Google Play Store not to auto update apps, but it still updated them twice. It's a PITA to reinstall everything. I've used Nandroid Backup on non-Amazon tablets in the past which is a lifesaver. It sort of mirrors the drive. Is the FTB Backup/Restore similar?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] astefan2:
I would like to install a second launcher besides the Amazon Launcher. When I start the second launcher, I would like to kill all processes that belong to the Amazon Launcher to save its resources. Which processes do I need to terminate and is it possible to script this? Thanks a lot! I am on FireOS 7.3.2.8.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ura23:
I wery like this program, but unfortunatly I have some bug on my windows 10. some of program windows looks like croped, so I can't click some buttons. Can you help me?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dc-:
I got it yesterday here in the U.S. (on my Fire Max 11). Likely they are staggering the rollout.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That sounds like what happens if you set you're font scaling to something other than 100%. You can either change it back to 100% or create another user account on your computer, leaving the font size at 100, and install Toolbox under the new account.