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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] richardvoyageur:
Thanks, I used hijackV4 on my 2017 fire 10 and put Evie launcher on there, it works like a charm. Like you said, you can see a blip of fire launcher when you hit the circle button but it's really fast and doesn't bug me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drizzt09:
I don't thing hiding the app with nova is the same hiding dev is doing. Nova just hides from visual. From home screen and app drawer. This one in from toolbox I think goes a little deeper.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ollion9:
Worked like a charm to get rid of all the Amazon bloatware and the Fire launcher. I have yet to see the parental controls popup but maybe this is because I rooted my HD8 2018 with xyz's hardware root method before using this tool. If I see it I'll immediately update this post though but for now everything works and looks like a standard Android tablet. ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I think your in the clear. Like some have pointed out, the 2018 models seem to be a little more on the chill side when it comes to Parental Control integration. You shouldn't see the Parental Control dialog at all. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ollion9:
Ah thanks for clearing that up, good to know! Now the tablet is definitely worth more than the 65 bucks I paid for it imo. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hey, out of curiosity... what launcher are you using?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ollion9:
Nova Launcher like everyone else. lol I'm using it on my phone as well though so it was a no-brainer for me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Amazon's launcher is an ad platform as well. What you'll want to do is replace the launcher. A lot of people like Nova Launcher, but there are 2 others included in Toolbox as well. Pick your favorite and replace the Amazon Launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drhebbe:
Hi.

I attached a screen capture of the Toolbox, and you can see the incomplete messages on the right side of the box.

How can I stretch the box so that I can check out the whole messages?

Thank you!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxesto:
I'm running Toolbox v25.1. I can't manually disable apps. I get the following error:

Any advice or suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxesto:
Speaking of errors, I got this .NET error when I ran Toolbox 25.0 for the first time:

I clicked Continue, and things seemed to proceed OK.

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxesto:
I get the same failure for anything I try to manually disable. I tried the auto preset disable (recommended apps) and that seemed to work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxesto:
Regarding the .NET error I also posted about, and the suggestion to install MS Visual C++ Redist for VS 2015, here are all the redists I have on my system:

I did download both the x64 and x86 versions of the 2015 version, but installs of both failed due to the installer saying I already had a version installed. Maybe the 2017 version overrides the 2015 version?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You may have your font size set to other than the default 100%. You can either set your font size to default to run Toolbox, or create a new user account to run Toolbox, leaving the defaults.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Out of curiosity, which version of Windows are you running? 7, 8, 8.1, 10, or 11. It might be that your .NET framework files aren't up to date. If perchance you are running Windows 7, and don't have the Bypass ESU patch installed, you might get that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxesto:
I'm running Windows 10, latest updates installed. I'm still seeing .NET errors, but the notifiers go away on their own, and the Toolbox seems to run OK. As far as I can tell, I'm running the latest and greatest .NET framework:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxesto:
I tried that, and as far as I can tell, nothing happened. No error messages, and no changes. Here's the ADB shell output:

Here's the log file contents:

Here's the Manage Apps window showing that Mopria Print Service is still enabled. I restarted the tablet, and the state is still enabled.

BTW, how come I can't paste into the ADB shell cmd line?

Thanks for your help so far! I'd sure like to be able to pick and choose which apps to disable.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
^^Maybe try using adb directly from a dos shell? I believe the adb executable is in the /bin folder. Absolute path varies, depending if you're using the portable tool of fire toolbox or installed it.

Also, on the hd 10 (2021 11th gen), this service (org.mopria.printplugin) does not exist.

Go to the advanced view to determine if it's actually there (and its package name).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
There's a different print service on the 11th gen. I have a canon networked printer that presents itself as a WSD device. Quite convenient if I ever need to print from the phone or tablet. A test page generated successfully.

Wifi enabled printer ftw. One less cable to deal with.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can, but it's different than Windows copy/paste. You have to right-click > paste.

You can. Choose advanced view.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bumblebee091:
Hi, I using HD10 11th, i'm trying to disable Fire Launcher but no luck, i'm facing with the error below, please help me. I cannot disabled the OTA update also, the OTA disabled window still show after i clicked the Disable OTA Updates button.

I'm using FireOS 7.3.2.2
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Here's the file name: fireos-7-full-debloat.debloat
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Which version of Nova Launcher is setup in the Toolkit? I can't run the current Version 7 on my Nexus 7 2013 debs, because it screws with my app widgets. So, I've saved the most recent Version 6 apk and have set the Play Store Nova page not to automatically update. This is dangerous, of course, but I've tried a bunch of different launchers to cut the umbilical cord with Nova but they all have serious limitations. I like the Microsoft launcher, but it limits the number of widget pages to 9 and I use more pages than that. Does anyone have any other launcher suggestions?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bumblebee091:
I'm using FireOS 7.3.2.2

I'm just try those commands that you provide, but still not work, fire launcher still there. May be Amazon prevent us to disabled the launcher ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] KY933:
I think since FireOS 7.3.2.2, Amazon has changed something at the back and made protected packages to their core apps, which prevents Fire Toolbox modifying the settings. I had no problem while I was on 7.3.2.1 (and a few versions before), but ever since I upgraded to 7.3.2.2 the problem appears. I will wait for Fire Toolbox updates to fix this issue, crossing fingers.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
Which device do you have exactly? I don't see 7.3.2.2 on amazon's site.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] KY933:
The latest Fire Tablet 10 HD (11th Gen)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] KY933:
Things I use FireToolbox for but not working on FireOS 7.3.2.2:

Cannot switch off OTA update

Cannot set custom launcher to Nova Launcher

Things that apparently still works from my usage:

Custom keyboard is kept

Can disable Goodread

Can disable auto-update

Google assistant seems okay

Disable Alexa
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
Was this an ota update or a manual update? if ota, maybe it hasn't made its way into the manual pipeline yet.

Either way, a warning for folks not to take the update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jgalvez21:
hi team,

there is an option to use microG than full blown google serviceS?

there a reason why this no an option play service installer?

even 2019 fire hd 10 have only 2gb this helps with this problem
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, looks like microG requires Signature Spoofing... which I don't think FireOS supports outside the box and requires root to enable unfortunately.

If you need an appstore I'd highly recommend giving Aurora Store a shot. It's a PlayStore client that doesn't require Play Services.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Huh, the commands should at least supply an error code we can work off of. Let's try executing them in a Command Prompt instance and see if it provides any output:

This will open a Command Prompt, which we can execute commands in, and view all output:

cmd

exit

In the Command Prompt window, try executing the following commands on at a time:

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.firelauncher

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota.override

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota

After executing all commands above could you please share the output with us? Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, this isn't good. We'll have to see what the output of the commands ran by @bumblebee091 are and see what we're dealing with. 😟
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I think it's an older build if I'm not mistaken...

Yeah, the Toolbox install Nova Launcher V6.2.12... quite an outdated build. Gonna have to update that... 😛

As for other launchers, I'm not quite sure as I don't really utilize widgets all that often so I'm not sure of any other launchers that support what you're looking for. Sorry my friend! :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bumblebee091:
The error message when run in command prompt is same with the error that I report in another reply, you can find it in the attachment screenshot, hope you will find a way to work around, thank you
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
@bumblebee091

I'm still curious where this 7.3.2.2 update came from.

Fire Tablet Software Updates - Amazon Customer Service

Fire tablet devices automatically download software updates when connected to the internet. These free software updates include general improvements and performance enhancements.

www.amazon.com

Shows 7.3.2.1 as most current.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
Pushes? As in no option to decline?

Before even connecting my device to the network, I made sure to disable everything that needed disabling. I've had devices force feed updates before, as far as downloading them, but once the ota services (apk's) disabled, they were not applied.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] KY933:
If it helps, my tablet is running a Canadian profile, thus the OS 7.3.2.2 could be a Canada-specific "minor-update"?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] reggiefl:
I installed Nova Launcher on my new FIRE 10 HD 2021 tablet using the Fire Toolbox v25.1

Now I can't install Amazon Prime Videos, Google Store says "Can't install Amazon Prime Video" Try again and if it still doesn't work, see common ways to fix the problem" which brings a windows which says Use a different app with choice of RoboForm and Chrome icons. I Installed RoboForm earlier and it worked fine.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bumblebee091:
How does I check the profile ? But I usually choose US for region
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Well, that's not a good error to receive. :(

Seems the Fire Tablets weren't the only ones to get hit with this. It seems back in April Facebook did the same thing with the telemetry apps on the Oculus. However, a developer by the name of basti564 actually found a way around it by creating an apk that uses device admin to disable the packages. Unfortunately, due to Parental Controls being the device admin by default on Fire Tablets I'm not quite sure there's anything we can do about it.

We might have to start using secondary users (created in the Toolbox) and somehow find a way of preventing Parental Controls from deleting them on reboot. Parental Controls has no sway over these profiles so it's possible this might be the next best thing... :unsure:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Come to think of it we've actually seen something similiar to this in the past on older gen devices. Remember when folks were having issues installing the debugger, and we found out it was pre-installed as a system app and we couldn't find away around it? Well, I'm starting to wonder if this is the next step to lock down the newer gens. Why can't they just let us customize our devices how we want them? I don't understand.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yeah, that's true. I wonder if the new update is a controlled release and they're only releasing it to select few in certain locations? I dunno.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yeah, I don't think they'd push this type of update to a specific country userbase.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bumblebee091:
well, i‘m so happy when you have something to work with it, please tell me if you need anything, maybe I can help.

@Falcon342 Currently, my fire just have a new OTA update, i think maybe they fix the parental control issue above, anyway to disable the OTA update by using proxy ?

Because this kind of hack will be impact their business, it make the user don't use their services anymore, maybe they added a lot of tracking in their apps for getting your personal info :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ariegan:
I have a problem while trying to install google services.

Same thing happens with latest version of toolbox but it does not show detailed error. It just says something about string parse error.

My Fire HD 10 plus(2021) is running 7.3.2.1 version of Fire OS. Any help would be appreciated
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Bummer. I finally had a completely vanilla Android tablet with my numerous widgets working perfectly. I powered off and went to sleep. When I awoke, it wouldn't boot. It was stuck on the "Fire" splash screen. Please help.

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] reggiefl:
thanks, it worked. Same with Amazon shopping and Amazon Music.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
@falcon 342. Thanks for the reply. Tools? I assume you mean Toolkit 25.1 tools. If so, I don't remember exactly, and it was my maiden voyage on my new HD8. However, I debloated sufficiently so all the damn ads were gone which was my goal, and I built my own UI using a Nova 6 apk I saved in my Google Drive; Nova 7 won't work for me because it's incompatible with my choice of widgets. I reported this to the dev, but he's not interested in fixing it. I've tired several other launchers but none work as well as Nova 6. I've set the Play Store not to auto update any apk. Knowing all that, can you or anyone else suggest how I can rebuild the UI without any ads so that the tablet will reboot? BTW, Amazon turned off the ads for me - not exactly, I.e., only on lockscreen.

Thanks. Much appreciated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
@Datastream33

You think it might be a good idea to update the OP to inform folks not to update 7.3.2.1 to anything newer until this can be figured out? I usually read the first few posts and last page or two of any super long thread. Details might be lost on new readers.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's recommended many times in this thread to disable OTA and Automatic updates. There's even a warning in Toolbox to do this, yet people still have to have the latest and greatest updates so they ignore this. SMH... I think people get what they deserve if they fail to at least try the suggested way.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
^^Lol

Put in big bold red letters at the top of the OP.

***WARNING*** DO NOT UPDATE¹

I imagine majority of fire tablet users are complete novices and may not be aware that updates == bad.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Also, hovering your mouse over an app in the simple view will show a description of what effect disabling it has and they're also color coded to show the ones that you might need. Green apps are not usually needed, yellow apps are needed in some cases, and red ones are probably needed in most cases.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] robfila:
I removed ads via toolbox on my fire hd 10 plus. My issue is now everytime I turn on my tablet my dl speed is 10mb. The only to fix that is to toggle the wifi off/on. Then my speeds return.

Is there anything I can do to permanently fix this little annoyance. Thank you
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bradleonard:
accidently replied to the wrong post, unable to delete.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bradleonard:
Have you ever found a resolution for the notifications not working with the Nest App for the Nest Doorbell?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] art99:
Where can I get / download the amazon versions of prime Video / Kindle? I can't find them in the Amazon playstore app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mcocorochio:
To those supporting this software:

Not to throw more gasoline on the issue, but the the developers of this wonderful software should keep another thing in mind when updating the instructions:

If the purchaser of the tablet is a current owner of an Amazon device setup on home wifi (Door bells, security, Firestick etc), Amazon sends the tablet already setup for the new owner's Wifi - credentials and all.

The peculiar ethics of the above behavior is the subject for another type of discussion, but it does muddy up the setup instructions a bit. If the wifi is not disabled in short order, then the reset instructions will probably have to be included in any future instruction rewrites.

My Fire HD tablet purchase was less than 2 weeks ago; and since I have an active Firestick it came setup for my wifi. I was able to set up the Fire Toolbox and disable updates ok so far.

mcocorochio
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
This may be due to the tablet turning off WiFi when the display goes dark. It's a power saving "feature" that can be disabled in the settings. I disabled OTA updates before they added that "feature" so I don't know exactly where it is, but it's probably under Internet. It's just a guess, but that's where I'd start if it was me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bluestang:
1st off...Great Tool...Thnnks!

Anyone ever have an issue without their tablet not charging after running this tool?

I had this going on my 2021 Fire HD 10 Plus with ads and enabled the OTA to get the latest update. Then I ran the newest Toolbox to remove bloat and disable OTA again.

Haven't needed to charge it since then until last night when it dropped to 39%. I put it on overnight to charge, but is was still at 39% this morning.

Is it possible Amazon is being dicks about me disabling the screen ads or something? Or did I inadvertently check off of box somewhere that screwed it up?

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
^^What firmware version?

No issues here with 7.3.2.1 and full debloat script. You sure the cable was plugged in both ends, wallwart plugged into a hot outlet?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cf77:
There is a "Unmetered" option in wifi setting. Perhaps try that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The unmetered option is for tablets with SIM cards that will prevent updating and background communications when on paid data. I told him to check the option to shut off wifi when the tablet's asleep. It's probably on and causing the trouble. It's a feature introduced a few updates ago that will probably mess with the wifi's speed when it's resumed. Some hardware doesn't get along very well with the "green" options.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
^^I have that option but it seems inoperable. That is, even when enabled, wifi stays on when screen is off. I actually want wifi to turn off when screen is off.. There's a playstore app for that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bluestang:
The very latest FW as of Nov 12. Using the charger/cable that came with my tablet.

I'll hook back up to PC and go through Toolbox again and see if I messed anything up.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
Can you post a version #?

7.3.2.1 is from august I believe. Wasn't even aware there's a nov update. I thought installing updates would re-enable whatever fire toolbox disabled. Quite possible that's the case here, or something is broken in the update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Never had a report of this issue before. It's most likely either a bad cable, bad connector on the computer/power supply that you're charging from, or a bad charger. Try another cable and or power supply. Even new stuff can be bad. (Especially when it's from China.)

That's a bad procedure - updating to latest system update before disabling OTA updates. You might have had the last version of the firmware that could be modified to remove the launcher or ads, and replaced it with the "latest firmware" that has now stripped that ability from you. Right now there's a new system update out there (7.3.2.2) that may be locking the Amazon launcher so that it can't be changed by current methods. It's never a good idea to run system updates on a computer you intend to hack unless you know what they'll do.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bluestang:
Not the cable/charger...I've tried another proven working one as well with no success.

I re-enabled OTA and undid all the ToolBox stuff I did back in Sept when I got it. Then I did the OTA and ran the Toolbox (newest) again after that to debloat and disable OTA again.

I'll figure it out eventually. Figure I would post the issue here first in case it was a bug in v25/v25.1 of ToolBox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] reggiefl:
I had a similar issue i.e. after one night charging the tablet battery level has not changed. I didn't use the charger/cable that came with my Fire 10 tablet, instead I used a high power charger that works great with my S21+ with a USB C to USB C cable. If I change the USB C on the charger side to a USB C to USB A adapter and a USB A to USB C cable then the tablet charges fine. Same result if I used a battery bank as the source. As long as your cable is not USB C to USB C, use only USB A to USB C. Give it a try.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The problem with a USB-c to USB-c cable is determining which end is the host. In order for that type of cable to work, you may need to connect the charger end of the cable before connecting the tablet end so that the charger can assert host status when you plug in the tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxesto:
I installed Sesame shortcuts and gave it a try. No luck. When I try to pin a shortcut, I get "Shortcut pinning is not supported". I get that error no matter which shortcut I try to pin. I have a Fire HD 8 Plus, running Fire OS 7.3.2.1, and Nova 6.2.12 from Toolbox 25.1. Not sure what's causing the error: Fire OS, Nova, or Sesame.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
After defining the shortcut, pin it by long pressing on the app in the app list. I couldn't get direct pinning from sesame to work either.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] art99:
And if that version is and old version, the Silk Browser (v 75) seems a little bit too old.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ntwkgirl:
I am, and I desperately need the Fire Toolbox for linux!! Thank you!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mcocorochio:
I just got an Amazon tablet, so I missed this question when it was submitted.

Most of my systems are Linux, I just keep Windows around for programs like this where there is no alternative.

Mcocorochio