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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi. Welcome to XDA!

I hate to say it, but the simple solution to the Patten Lock problem is DON'T USE IT! Just because Toolbox presents an option that was blocked on the tablet by the factory, doesn't mean you should immediately use that hidden option. It wasn't offered for a reason. The only way out once you've set a Pattern Lock is to reset the tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TICOES12345:
Thanks, I was hoping it didn't come to that.

Maybe I'll wait a few months in case another alternative is found.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Good luck. I doubt one will be coming though. I've been using Toolbox since v.8 and there hasn't been an option to remove it in all that time. I think the Toolbox even warns you about Pattern Locking the Fire Tablets.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SB_UK:
Hey - all working beautifully now.

Just two tiny questions - the dreaded Fire Launcher does come back if we press the square on the bar and close the launcher (last open window) by accident - not a worry but is there anyway of ensuring that the final swipe doesn't take us back there? That's how much I hate :) looking at the Fire Launcher.

And is the middle button meant to take us back to portrait for a millisecond then landscape - I've forced landscape on the device + launcher, but the transition still occurs.

Both of these are minor points though.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's great that everything works now for you. 😊 The problem with the way we have to go about using an alternate launcher is that it's just another app now and it will show up on the recents list along with everything else you've run recently. I think it's sort of self-training, but I have learned to not dismiss Nova when I'm clearing out the recents list. Also, the home button gets you to your launcher if you accidentally get the Amazon Launcher.

I don't use landscape mode much, so I haven't noticed that it takes a few milliseconds to orient itself the right way. I guess that's just a byproduct of the way we have to do things. :rolleyes:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SB_UK:
Thanks for all of the help - good to go.

Training underway not to 'clear all' and to keep the Nova Launcher app open - funny how rapidly the Fear of seeing the Amazon Launcher forces a change in behaviour.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hehehee (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SB_UK:
Microsoft Launcher doesn't flip portrait to landscape (in case this helps anybody) but 'Clear all' does return us briefly back to the horrid Amazon Launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
A couple months ago, I had a discussion about this problem with Dallasondarrion. Here's the last thing I found that might help. (post)

It's an app to hide apps from your recents list. If nothing else, it'll give you a place to start messing around with the problem. 😉
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] c-f-g:
When I tried it some days ago, the "other USB options" menu was greyed out. Today it worked 👍

But, how can I install google play store in the kids profiles? This used to work.

This thread seems to be outdated: https://xdaforums.com/t/how-to-yout...gle-services-apps-on-a-child-profile.3839714/

I tried extracting play store and play services from my main profile and installing it to my kids profiles, but the play store just immediately closed after starting it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Sorry, but I have no experience with kid's profiles. All I know is the answer is usually "You can't do it". 😟
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] YanniDLaw:
Hello,

I am looking for an answer regarding this:

Make sure you uncheck the "Link device to your Amazon account to simplify setup" box before Adding to Cart. (See this screenshot, credits go to @ancientrael)

if the box remains checked, your tablet will automatically update to the latest version of FireOS the second it auto-connects to your wifi

Unfortunately I didn't know that this affects so much regarding the toolbox before purchasing. If I have ticked that box, then even if I use the firebox it wouldn't work as it will auto-update everytime?

Is there anything else I can do?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi. Welcome to XDA!

It's OK if you didn't uncheck that box. It will just be a little more difficult setting up your tablet.

Your tablet will know your WiFi password and use it to connect and update as soon as it's turned on. So now you need to turn off your WiFi BEFORE you power on your tablet.

Hopefully, your tablet will have a firmware version prior to v7.3.2.2. You'll want to keep that. If not, or your new tablet auto-updated, there are still workarounds to the new problems. See the post linked in my signature for help with the new firmware.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SB_UK:
Lovely - will play with it and then post what happens - to avoid seeing the Fire Launcher ever again is the goal :-) !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] A-question:
Okay thanks. I wasn't sure if after putting the play store / google services on, and then the kindle OS firmware would undo anything.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
One thing to watch out for is Google likes to automatically update your apps. You'll want to turn that off. You only want to update the non-Amazon apps with Google Play. If you let Google update Alexa, or other pre-installed apps, it will break them and you'll have to uninstall the Google updates to those apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] votemarvel:
Is there anyway to get Smart YouTube TV to respond to touch for navigating?

The toolbox installed it fine. The app loaded and I was able to sign in to my YouTube account but the app is functionally useless because while the buttons (Home, Subscriptions etc) work I can't actually scroll using touch.

I've tried searching for help but anything I find just related to the app on TVs and not the one that can be installed on a Fire.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dev1ous_34:
Can someone give me the IP's of Amazon Update? So that I can block those from my router. I tried a 3rd party app, but other app forced it to close due to poor RAM Optimization. Then I tried DN66, 30 days worked perfectly, but I dunno last week its not blocking update anymore. So can anyone give me those IP to block?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Managed to dig up @goatbor's post from a while back. It should contain all the IPs. Best of luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] HeyImAmy:
I recently upgraded from my Fire HDX the 2022 version of the Fire 7 tablet, which is running Fire OS 8.3.1.1, and was looking for a way to remove built-in apps (I know you cannot completely remove the apps Amazon pre-installs on Fire tablets but I want to hide Goodreads, Audible, and Freevee, if possible).

I was trying to use Fire Toolbox and got the message in the attached print screen, which I'm assuming has something to do with Fire Toolbox not being updated for new Fire tablet versions but I am not 100% sure.

I am wondering if Fire Toolbox will work for Fire OS 8 at some point in the future or there is some workaround I can use now to get it to work?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gguerra:
More than likely yes. You can check the devices supported on page 1 of this thread. I don't see anything from 2022 listed. Datastream33 is the developer of the toolbox. He would have to get his hands on any new devices (I assume) before they are supported.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

I don't believe the 2022 models are supported by the current release. However, if you could be kind enough to help out by sharing the device's build.prop file, we can ensure support is quickly added.

The build.prop file can be obtained manually through the use of the "adb shell getprop>buildprop.txt" command or through the use of the GetProp tool (attached as a .zip to this post). The tool is a simple .bat file (you can even view the source code) and will automatically pull the buildprop for you.

If you could be so kind as to send me the build.prop via a PM that would help out immensely!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mcondor:
I want to update from 7.3.1.9 to 7.3.2.1

My HD10 is crashing a lot when showing videos, so I thought I would try to update the f/w to try to understand if it is a hardware issue or not.

I have a copy of the 7.3.2.1 installer.

I am running V25.2 version of the Fire Toolbox since 12/2021

My question is should I uninstall any of the toolbox modifications before I run the updater.

I know I will need to be careful right after the update to make sure I don't get updates pulled before I get the toolbox connected up again.

Also what is the best version of the toolbox for 7.3.2.1? I read that V28 has some launcher options removed.

Thanks a lot in advance - I did try to find what to do in this thread, but it is very long - Mark
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
See the post in my signature. There is a file attached called "Amzn_Blklst.txt" It is a simple text file that can be opened with any text editor (like Notepad in Windows). It contains about 6 URLs to block.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Argoz:
Sent over mine a moment ago. Hope it helps :)

Thank you for your work on this project
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I don't think v7.3.2.1 offers any better stability than v7.3.1.9.

Your device crashing a lot on videos is more likely a function of the video player that you use, the other apps you have installed, and memory limitations of the Fire device.

Should you decide to update anyway, there's no need to uninstall anything first. The update will automatically remove what it doesn't like and you'll just need to re-install those apps. You'll also need to rerun Toolbox before you allow the tablet online because OTA and Automatic Updates will be turned on once again and all apps you had disabled previously will now be active once again.

The best version of Toolbox to use is always the latest version. No launcher options were removed from Toolbox v28 in the latest version. Options were added for f/w v7.3.2.2+ but will only be available if you need those options with your f/w version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rockinmax:
Mannnn... I didn't know we have a problem with 7.3.2.2. I just bought my HD10 and it automatically updated. I didn't know... Should have stopped it when I had a chance... ugh! Can I downgrade it?

Apparently, 7.3.2.2 was released in November 2021. I guess I'll have to wait for the rest of the year and MAYBE the Toolbox will have some ways to bypass the issues by that time...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

The biggest problem of the launcher replacement being blocked has been addressed in the latest Toolbox version. For the other problems, see the post in my signature for a starting point. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mcondor:
Thank you so much for the replying quickly with good information.

I mostly want to try the updated O/S to eliminate any software rot, I suspect there is a hardware issue, and this will eliminate s/w rot.

I have been using instagram and snapchat every day since I got the HD 10 in December, and the past several weeks the HD10 will simply reboot when playing videos from these apps. There is plenty of memory available,.

There really should be no way an app can cause a reboot in a modern system.

Again thanks for the tips!

- Mark
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I notice no difference in stability between the 2 tablets I have (v7.3.1.2 & v7.3.2.2). Just the newer version is "quirkier" because of the extra workarounds.

Edit: Oh, and remember that once you update, you can't go back!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rockinmax:
Thanks for your reply. You meant the Custom Navbar Key in Toolbox version 21 right? For the custom Launcher, I am using that to launch Nova Launcer.

Although sometimes when I tap "Back" or "Recent App". It pops back to the Amazon launcher :) So a little problematic but I guess that's the best we have at the moment.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nathanzachary:
I have a new 11th Generation FireHD 10+ (with FireOS 7.3.1.9), but I am seeing that Fire Toolbox 28.1 the error message of " isn't compatible with the Toolbox. Please plug in a supported Fire Tablet". Does the Toolbox not work in a Windows 7 VM? It looks like it should be compatible with this tablet.

EDIT: Just tried on a non-VM Windows 7 installation and it didn't work either. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's the new tablet version that isn't compatible yet. Be very careful not to let your tablet update until a compatible update is released to Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nathanzachary:
Thank you for that information. I am not even connecting my tablet to wifi until I get this problem sorted. Two more questions in the interim: 1) is there any ETA for the new release which will work with this new tablet version and can I follow the progress somewhere?; 2) any problem just using a standard adb command (from a Linux host) to install applications that don't require any network connectivity in the interim?

Thank you again for letting me know about the root of the problem.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] guycot:
fire toolbox works fine in Windows 7, just needs extra drivers. It's explained in the first post of this thread.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
See this post by Datastream33 (the developer) and send him the requested file to help him set up the requirements for your tablet.

Just watch this thread for any new updates to Toolbox.

Yes, you can use ADB to manually do things to your tablet. You can even disable OTA updates that way. I'd have to look to find the apps that need to be disabled, but everything the Toolbox does can be done manually though ADB.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Welcome to XDA!

Yup, you're right! Windows 7 doesn't automatically install the drivers for you so you have to do it manually. After that, it's fine.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nathanzachary:
Thank you again. You have been very helpful, mate.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nathanzachary:
Hello @Datastream33 ,

I started a conversation with you and sent my build.prop from my brand new 2022 version of the FireHD 10+ (11th generation). I hope that information helps with getting support for it. :)

Thank you for your continued work on the Fire Toolbox!

Cheers,

Nathan Zachary
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] deckinghalls:
Thank you for your amazing tool and for your efforts in making these devices tolerable!

I have a HD 10 with firmware 7.3.2.1. It did connect to wifi so I could have Amazon remove the ads (apparently nicely asking them to remove the ads for free still works!) and to register the tablet so it shows in my account. In the process, it did download (but not install) 7.3.2.2.

1. Does Fire Toolbox prevent the update from installing if it is downloaded/does it delete the downloaded (but not installed) update?

2. If no to the above, does factory resetting delete the update data?

3. If I do factory reset the device, does it remember Amazon removed the ads, or do I need to re-register the device in order for the ads to disappear?

4. Would using the Amazon block list interfere with re-registering if needed?

I know it seems silly to worry about ads when you got it figured out, but since Amazon was willing to remove them officially, I want to have the ads removed officially then block the updates with Fire Toolbox. Is this at all feasible? Thanks for your time!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok, support has been added for quartz aka Fire 7 (2022)! 🎉

Shutouts go to those lovely folks who helped immensely by supplying the build.prop for the new tablet! It would have been extremely hard to add support without your guy's help! THANK YOU! :D

However, due to not being able to get my hands on one... there may be some tools/subtools that don't play well with the new tablets... being that they run a newer version of Android. If you guys come across any issues with any of the subtools, could you please let me know? Thanks!

Ready to customize your new Fire 7? Be sure to download the new update via the Toolbox Updater!

HAPPY CUSTOMIZING!! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

So HAPPY to hear you're enjoying the Toolbox! It's what keeps the project going!

Those are some great questions! I'll do my best to hopefully give a satisfactory response.

1. If you disable OTA updates using the Toolbox (on firmware under 7.3.2.2), you don't need to worry about the update installing. The package (app) that's responsible for installing it is disabled. However, it may still be a good idea to manually delete the update file. If I remember right... clearing the Storage for System Updates (both entries in Settings), DeviceSoftwareOTA, and Download Manager has been reported to delete the update .zip file.

2. A factory reset could remove the update, but you need to be careful when taking this route. Doing so could cause Automatic Update to switch back on. This will cause the system to install the update automatically. Not something you want.

3. I'm not entirely sure how it works. I'm guessing (could be incorrect) that the device will remain with ads until you connect it to your Amazon account. Upon connection, it will see that it's been whitelisted and the ads will be disabled? Or it could be tied to the MAC address or some other device identifier that once connected to the internet it will reach out to Amazon's servers, see that it's been whitelisted, and then remove the ads. Not sure, but that's just a few guesses I have. Still, I wouldn't recommend factory resetting.

4. If the tablet remains on a firmware under 7.3.2.2 then the Toolbox can disable OTA Updates. If it's been updated, you can use the blocklist and DNS66 to block the updates (according to @blaacksheep, there are still some things you'll need to do in addition). I'm not quite sure if blocking the IPs prevents the device from being registered or not. Sorry about that.

I sincerely hope that this post has helped. Please have a good rest of your day/night, and let us know if you have any further questions or concerns! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
1. No. Fire Toolbox does not prevent an update from installing once downloaded. It will update as soon as it's rebooted.

2. I'm fairly certain that a reset will kill the downloaded update without installing it.

3. I don't have any firsthand knowledge of whether or not it remembers the ads were shut off, but it's likely that it's permanent.

4. No, it would not, but there is no need if you successfully reset the tablet without installing the updates because then Toolbox is able to disable OTA updates.

Edit: See Datastream33's post above. He's more knowledgeable on these matters than I.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rockinmax:
Hi @blaacksheep Since my firmware is 7.3.2.2 Is there a way to prevent it from automatically updating to a higher version? Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Not @blaacksheep, but i'd highly recommend checking out his post on the subject. It contains all the info you'll need to help block updates. Best of luck! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rockinmax:
Thank you. But I currently have a VPN service. If I want to block the firmware update. Does it mean I cannot use my VPN anymore? Mine is CyberGhost and it doesn't have the ability to block addresses like DNS66 :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ah, I believe Android only supports one VPN at a time. If you have access to your router, you could block the IPs that way i suppose.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SB_UK:
Hi - so with 7.3.2.3 and the Amazon set up as requested by Amazon (I had no idea that the Amazon Launcher was that horrid!) and following Blacksheep's recipe - all good. MS Launcher disappears from 'Recents' all by itself (unlike Nova) - not too sure why - but did try that ^ app just to have a go with it too. It is possible to see the Amazon Launcher (boo!) albeit infrequently (when we clear all apps) but only for a moment.

Otherwise - all good! - thanks for the help - and can use the tablet now.

Impressed by Fire Tools - so easy to use.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Stacelawton:
What a great bit of software. Has made massive difference to my Fire tablet. Not a chore to use it anymore! 😂
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA!

As @Datastream33 said, there's a detailed way to do it in my post, but since you're using the VPN feature already for a real VPN, you'll need an alternate method of blocking the Amazon servers.

The Amzn_Blklst.txt file from that post is just a list of the 6 addresses I found that needed blocking. You can block them from your router, or if you have a Raspberry Pi, you could set up a Pi Hole and include those in the addresses to kill.

Because we can't kill the OTA updating service that's always running, your tablet will always try to phone home for any updates and will succeed if you ever take it to a friend's WiFi network where those addresses aren't blocked.

I've managed to keep mine from updating past 7.3.2.2, but it really doesn't seem that 7.3.2.3 is much worse if your tablet does update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Great! I had no idea that MS Launcher doesn't show up in the recents list. I'm so much of a Nova Launcher guy that I never explored other launchers.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and Welcome to XDA!

I thought the same thing when I first discovered @Datastream33's Toolbox. "What a great piece of software." That's why I hang around here and help people out with things where I can.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] moonlonely:
v28.4 recognizes my new 12th-gen Fire 7 (2022) tablet, but when trying to install Google Services, I get an error message that says "Failed to read the Android OS version, Architecture, or set the download links. Here is the information the Toolbox has collected: -Android Version:11.0 -Architecture: x64.

After clicking OK, a follow-up message says "Some fo the download urls couldn't be read. Please close the Toolbox and try running this tool again."
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] miatawnt2b:
For those of you a little deeper into networking, I have taken an additional step to prevent the updates on my home network. I use pihole on my home network for DNS. I've taken the DNS entries from the Amzn_Blklst.txt and manually added them to the blacklist of the pihole. This prevents access to the amazon update servers completely, and you don't need to worry about rebooting the tablet and DNS66 not loading in time. It has the added benefit of blocking updates to other amazon devices on your network as well.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm gonna have to get me a Pi. I think they're still under $50.

Edit: No, wait! I've already got a single board computer that sits idle most of the day. It's the Odroid XU4 that serves up all my media files on my network. I could put PiHole on that and not spend a cent! 😁
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jochang69:
Hello friend, thanks for this great program! I'm having a bit of an issue with the Quick Settings Modifier. How do I get Automate to reenable the changes when I reboot?

I have the launch on startup option checked already. I think it could be because I didn't install Automate until much after I applied the changes? (I kinda skipped that step when Fire Toolbox was trying to install it automatically the first time.) Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] billkater:
I am having the exact same problem.

Fire OS version 8.3.1.0

On a new Fire 7 2022 version Gen 12