[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yarod_g14:
Meh

It seems to me that All the Os's are heading in the same direction, technologically and socially.

Camera's

Storage

Fast data connections

Good Screen and Speakers

Input ability.

I find that using my N95 reminds me of my first smartphone.

I am a member of www.symbian-freak.co.uk and the community there reminds me of Win mobile like 8 years ago.

There is a programming language for the S60 called Python which seems very popular and easy to work with, Nokia has a online application signing at present. Due to the rapidly growing number of users I feel that app signing will change in the future for them. At present I have to personally sign any application that I want to run that is not a commercial release.

Now this reminds me of my first SPV canary when we had to disable the certificate checking to allow unauthorised access. It is really REALLY similar, as is the huge list of applications that grows daily, just like when I used to spend all my time here and on www.modaco.com years ago.

Maybe my comparison to the Iphone was a bad one, and I do apologise for making a statement like "everyone loves Iphone" but its the feedback I get from anyone who plays with Safari on the touch or the iphone, no one can say it is hard to use or aggrevating, especially when you compare the same mobile experience with IE or Opera on Mobile 5 or 6.

Web browsing on my V21. N95 is also phenomenal and has full flash lite 3 support.

All the OS's have different stregnths and weaknesses.

I would NEVER have purchased a NOKIA device 2 years ago. I would have laughed.

However, the S60 V3 platform is BIG there are HUGE numbers of users all hacking and developing just like us here. It is now hacked and modable (all security has been disabled), V4 will be a touch screen environment and all the coders and users will be moving over to these new devices and taking experience with them.

I have apps that do many things that maybe the majority of windows mobile users would not believe. I would not have believed it my self really. I have all the streaming apps that I need, I got core player which is as good as if not better than the win mo flavor I got all the Wifi apps, games, god knows what else. There are so many people developing for the devices.

Its the same for the Iphone. Saying that it is a "laymans" device and that it is not as versatile is not the experience that I have had. Once the device is Jailbroken there are many many many apps available and the list is growing every day. There are Multitudes developing and RE'ing the OS...

I think that a lot of the windows mobile users are not aware of the versatility of other OS's and what people are doing right now.

Yeah, I wouldnt buy one(Iphone) for £300 and take on a contract BUT many people would not have bought an original Windows Smartphone running 2000 for probably the same price!

The Iphone is an amazing bit of tech. It is so thin, so light, the battery is great and the screen is great. Yeah, It has EDGE but how long till 3/4g iphones?

I dont think its prudent to compare the tech as it has been packed so well that surely the technology is heading where Win mobile devices are?

I now use my Nokia FAR more than my Ameo but there are things that I have to do on my ameo as the N95 wont do Host USB etc.

As our communities grow larger from year to year, and as more markets become open to these devices we are going to have SO many people "reverse engineering" and "hacking"

I am guessing that there will be more and more killer apps, maybe we will be switching Os's to run these?

Maybe the Hard core users and exploiters will be moving between these devices and moving the OS's between the devices.

Just like "AKSD" says, having modability is very important.

Iphone has thousands of users added to its list every day. The user base is big and growing.

I suppose I was thinking in Cukoo land, expecting things to converge to the point that people are swapping OS's etc especially as Apple etc would not be happy for people to go from device to device but....lol I had a vision....

thinking again, with the open flavor google android......maybe it will be slightly different, maybe different groups of users and developers will all be modding android for their platorms :)

Just my thoughts.....