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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ohheyitslynsey:
Hi. OP thanks so much for the hard work in providing this!

I am really technologically...challenged, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, or misunderstanding the posts here that try and provide solutions, but if someone could reaalllyyy dumb it down for me that would be great?

I have the Fire HD 7 (2019). Downloaded the toolkit, removed amazon software successfully, with exception of the 'register your device' banner. Downloaded Google play and waited 30 minutes before trying to use but every time I try and launch it it lets me click the sign in button then loads for a few seconds then the screen goes grey (not timed out). Reset to factory settings a few times/ uninstalled/ reinstalled etc, still nothing. Somehow removed the 'register your device' part, maybe through automate but now automate isn't there and can't remember how to get it back, it came up error messages anyway.

Is it a lost cause because of the version I'm using?

Apologies if this post is just repeating what previous people have said, but I'm dumb and can't figure this out.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
This worked for another user with a similar problem:

Maybe it's an issue with Windows permissions. Try launching Toolbox as administrator and re-installing. (And welcome to XDA!)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ohheyitslynsey:
Thanks for the reply! How do I run it as Admin?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Right-click on the Toolbox icon and select 'Run as Administrator' from the dropdown menu.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ohheyitslynsey:
I got it working!! (So far so good anyway!) This is great, much appreciated. OP definitely donating to your coffee fund.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It worked? Great! You probably don't need administrative access for anything else. I'm not sure why it seems to be needed for Google Services but I'm glad we have a simple solution.

(Datastream33 is the dev, and I hope he left a link for donations in his OP. I think I found it when I looked ages ago. There's a donation link at the bottom of the first post.)

Edit: I wonder if it's a Windows 10 or 11 thing. Maybe ADB doesn't get sufficient privileges to do a streaming install in new Windows.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thecensor:
What are the system requirements of toolbox?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] veda1:
@blaacksheep

I have ran into a problem. I thought since the tollbox works good i might as well revert the changes by resetting the device to factory condition, get all the latest updates (which will make the device more secure), and then flash it with the toolbox again.

Now the problem is the device i think has been updated to a version 7.3.2.2 which i am guessing isn't allowing the changes. The launcher is reverting back after a reboot, this time i did not get the prompt/dialogue box to disable OTA updates. Boy this is a mess. I tried resetting the device again but it seems i can't get it back to a a previous version > Any suggestions? Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Okiba:
Hi,

Quick question. The Fire HD 10 and the Fire HD 10 Kids are the same tablet? so I can use Fire Toolbox on the Fire 10 Kids (3-7) version? The Kids version seems to come with limited launcher, an no access to the store I think?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yep, you decided to update and now there's no way back. Security isn't an issue that's really addressed by Amazon, so the only reason to update would be a new feature that can't be installed by an app. Every update carries with it a likelihood that something you've modified will be reverted and locked out of further modifications. That's why you don't want updates if you modify.

That said, I'm afraid you're stuck with v7.3.2.2 now, and that means the replacement launcher won't stick, you can't lock out further updates, and you might have lockscreen ads. All is not lost. There are several people that have worked out ingenious ways around the launcher problem. If you're a networking tech, you can lock out the updates at your router, and you can disable your lockscreen completely to remove lockscreen ads.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That's a good question. Can you even get to Developer Options on it to enable USB debugging for ADB? If you already have the tablet, try that first. If you can enable debugging, try Toolbox out and tell us what you can and can't do with it. If you can't enable USB Debugging, then Toolbox won't be of any use.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Okiba:
I'm not sure I'll get the Kids versions if I can't use USB Debugging on it. Sadly, I couldn't find information about it online. It supposedly the exactly Fire 10 Tablet. But perhaps they disabled the option for USB Debugging on setting?

Maybe someone else around own a Kids devices and can share some information, thanks!

EDIT:

Seems like you can get into "normal" launcher mode by changing profile. This seems like a normal settings menu. So I hope you can unlock debug mode...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I didn't know how the children's version functioned and that was the first thought that occurred to me - can you enable USB Debugging? That Settings screen looks the same as a regular tablet, so I don't know. He'd have had to tap on the serial number 7 times to enable Developer Options. It's probably there, but who knows what Amazon decided should be available on a child's tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Okiba:
Yea. I guess I would risk it. I mean, I assume that they didn't create a new OS, or even modified the core OS they using. I assume that what they do, is just create - "Child Profile". So if you log with the Child profile, you have dedicated launcher and heavy parent control feature. The other "Adult" version looks like a normal kindle, so I "Assume", debugging options is there... hopefully :-)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] michianamcr:
Ordered a 2021 10+ last night, and was looking closer at the thread and saw the spoilers section where it says to not link it to my account in the ordering process or it will automatically update on first wifi connect.

Is there a way around that? The one I ordered is linked. The same section shows steps to back out twice and skip set up. Will that prevent the 7.3.2.2 update?

I really only want to get the Google play store. Perhaps get rid of Amazon junk. I know I need to block OTA updates.

TIA
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Well, you have to either shut off your WiFi while you run the initial setup, or do it at someone else's house so it can't connect to WiFi and update. You'll have to go through the initial setup and then enable Developer Options and USB Debugging and shut off the WiFi before you take it home or turn on your WiFi. Then run Toolbox and disable OTA Updates and Automatic Updates. Then you are safe. Note that you may be one of the unlucky ones that gets v7.3.2.2 from the factory and it doesn't matter then. :( Hopefully, you'll have 1.9 or 2.1 and be able to stop it from going further. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] RhombusVoid:
Is it possible to hide the camera app on the Home Screen without completely disabling it? I would like my child to be able to use it within apps like messenger, but not necessarily just wasting a bunch of time taking photos for the purpose of just fullfilling the electronic desire.

I know it’s possible with a custom launcher but I have an updated Fire 8 so that’s not really feasible at this point.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] veda1:
I didn't know then but i know now, no updates. :) Just frustrated the learning came at such a price.

I am not a networking texh and also a noob to tablets, will you please direct me to the info. on what can be done about the launcher and the routers or post some instructions here? Also, i have no problems reverting to an older fire OS if that helps, can it be done? When you say disable the lockescreen completely, do you mean by using the option in the toolbox? Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] michianamcr:
Thank you. That is what the expanded spoiler section seemed to imply, but I wanted to make sure I was understanding it correctly.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Okay, so my tablet is on v7.3.1.2 and I'm not about to update it to v7.3.2.2, but I've just ordered a HD8 (2020) and I'm going to let it update to the latest version so I can "enjoy the experience" that everyone else who bought a new tablet is having. Then I'll be better able to help people get around the new restrictions. It's supposed to arrive on Friday. I'll try to answer your questions in detail Friday night or Saturday morning assuming it arrives on time.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SenorSmartyPants:
Someone added a second gmail account to my mom's Fire HD8 2020. I tried to manage accounts on the tablet inside gmail, but nothing happens when I tap "Manage accounts on this device".

I hooked up to Fire Toolbox 27.0 and tried "Google Services (Manage)" -> "Manage Accounts" but that gives an error message "Failed to launch the Account Activity"

I've also already cleared the data/cache using the toolbox and uninstalling/reinstalling play services with the toolbox.

I initially set up this tablet using the toolbox, never have registered it with Amazon, or set up an Amazon account for it.

How can I remove this second gmail account? The person who owns it doesn't want it on this tablet anymore.

Thanks for this wonderful toolbox!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If I remember correctly, Google accounts can only be added, not removed. I think the missing activity is something that Amazon decided not to include with FireOS in later versions. I believe the only way to remove the Google account is to factory reset the tablet and rerun Toolkit. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this. You can log into your google account on another computer and sign out the Fire tablet, but the account will still be there.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Fortunately, a factory reset shouldn't be required here. To remove the accounts you could uninstall and reinstall Play Services. But, yeah... due to the missing Accounts activity there are unfortunately no other means of removing accounts. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I think he already tried uninstalling/re-installing. I ran a search through the thread and found a few results, but they all pretty much said a factory reset is required.

I'll let you guys know, when I get my new tablet, how the Toolbox works on it. I'll definitely be fooling around with installing nova Launcher, hiding the home button and using an alternate nav bar/app. I'll also let you know what I find out about the IP addresses to block to stop updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] veda1:
Thank you. I will wait.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxesto:
Speaking of "searching this thread", how do I do that? The button at the top of the page that says "Search This thread" doesn't do what it says:

When I click on it and enter my search term, a bunch of completely irrelevant stuff shows up (in red box):

And it looks like whatever thread is highlighted in the dropdown box gets searched, not "this" thread. How do I search the 429 pages of "this" thread?

Thanks in advance! This has been bugging me for a loooong time.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] michianamcr:
Everything else seems to be going smoothly, after running the program as an admin. I am having an issue that I didn't find when I searched this thread. When I try to do the Google Assistant mod, it downloads GoogleApp-9.0.apk to 168,302 kb and the program doesn't progress beyond "Downloading the Google app". After closing the program and deleting the apk inside the AppData directory, it successfully downloads it with a green progress bar. It then fails on Installing the Assistant Launcher with an error box "an error occurred during installation. Performing Streamed Install." Any ideas?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
There may be other ways, but I enter my search query

Then I click the arrows by "Everywhere"

And change it to "This Thread"
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Have you tried running Toolbox as Administrator when installing Google Assistant? If so, try closing it out and running it as a regular user.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] michianamcr:
I am running as an administrator after having a couple of minor issues downloading the google services apk's. I will try running as a regular user and see how that goes. I also have not logged in to the google play services and wonder if that may be an issue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Indyultra:
I keep getting: fire toolbox failed to obtain download information from the server. Any work around for it? Thank you
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] michianamcr:
Nope, administrator or not, logged in to google services or not, it doesn't work. On non-administrator it gets a green ok on installing google app, followed less than a second later with an error on installing assistant launcher. On administrator in fails on both of those. Both ways the three following status indicators show ok on disabling alexa, setting google as default, and launching google assistant.

I dived into the settings, and was able to set up the assistant and train the voice model. It appears to be working, even though the program appeared to be failing. Note for future users of this setting. It may be working even if you are getting errors in the Fire Toolbox.

Fire 10 (2021) firmware 7.3.1.9 and Toolbox 27.0
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxesto:
THANK YOU!!! So you don't use the "Search This thread" button/feature at all. I didn't think of going to the very top of the webpage and using the site-wide search.

Thanks again!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] RiCkLaR:
If you are able to stop the firmware from updating during the OOBE and Registration process on new tablet, the most important system app to disable and leave disabled is:

DeviceSoftwareOTA (com.amazon.device.software.ota)

This is the app that downloads the individual System Apk updates, and once the Firelauncher (aka Home Pages) & Special Offers (com.amazon.kindle.kso) individual apk's update to the latest versions you are locked-out of changing the Firelauncher and blocking Home Screen Ads (Special Offers) permanently. But if you first can disable DeviceSoftwareOTA, HomePages, and SpecialOffers; then you can proceed with connecting to network and receiving the full firmware update "FireOS version: 7.3.2.2 (PS7322/2519)" -- I was able to update the Dec./Feb./Mar. firmwares all the way to the latest firmware and keep HomePages and SpecialOffers disabled "persistently" on an old FireHD 10 (2019), but the minute I enabled this package: (com.amazon.device.software.ota), then the latest HomePages and SpecialOffers updated, and I was F*ck'd.

Also, what I noticed with recent firmware is that having the most recent versions of Google Play Store, Google Play Services, & Google Assistant all installed were crashing Services all the time in the background if I left Amazon Appstore (com.amazon.venezia) Enabled, so Disabled Amazon Appstore and tablet running smooth again.

Now I'm using an AutoStart app to launch into Evie Launcher from lockscreen, and with the 'Fire_Toolbox/Lockscreen_Management/Locksreen_Shortcuts/Customize_Lockscreen_Shortcuts/' tool can set a lockscreen shortcut to also open direct to Evie Launcher on a corner swipe.

For navigation am using XDA's Navigation Gestures app as alternative NavBar app, and not enabling any swipe or press to activate Home-action. If I open Recents and Clear-All then I'll be taken back to HomePages (firelauncher).

Recommend installing SystemUI Tuner by Zachary Wander to persistently modify the QuickSettings tiles.

And to Firewall system apps that are now protected from being completely disable, I've installed RethinkDNS (https://rethinkdns.com), which can firewall individual user & system apps via the VPN service and works great as an Ad-blocker with its DNS filters lists.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] RiCkLaR:
EDIT -- deleted double post.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] keenanof:
does it work on fire 7 Kids Edition ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] manyxda:
Hello,

I have three questions, please.

1. Launchers: I see that Toolbox can install 3rd party launchers such as Nova. Is there any difference (in terms of result) between using (a) Toolbox vs. (b) Google Play to install Nova? (I have already used Toolbox to install Google Play.)

2. Sideloading: I see that Toolbox can sideload from apk files. Is there any difference (in terms of result) between using (a) Toolbox vs. (b) a file manager app to sideload from apk? (By a "file manager" I mean e.g. Total Commander, old version ES File Mananer before it became adware.)

3. Notes on how to: If I took good step-by-step notes on the Toolbox and the driver install process and want to share, where would be the best place? Should I post it here or create a separate forum page? By "best" I mean where people could find it. (I know that good step-by-step instructions already exist. But the process was still bumpy for me. I had to get round errors that no one else seems to discuss. Toolbox itself, once installed, was totally intuitive. Just great! I bow down to the developer.)

I thank in advance anyone providing comments so that I need not later clutter this board with nothing but a thank-you. Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Insighting:
Hi, in the first step it says

'Make sure you uncheck the "Link device to your Amazon account to simplify setup" box before Adding to Cart.'

Bought my device before seeing this guide so it was left checked, is there a way to undo this or follow the guide still? Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Welcome to XDA!

The reason to uncheck that box is if you leave it checked, the tablet will be preloaded with your WiFi password among other things. Once turned on and armed with your password, it will connect and update to the latest firmware version. You don't want that. Best to either turn off your WiFi for a few minutes until you can run Toolbox on it, or go to a friend's house and do the initial setup. You'll want to disable the OTA Updates and Automatic Updates before turning on WiFi on the tablet.:)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
1. Launchers: No difference that I'm aware of in results though maybe newer version in the app store. You will need to use Toolbox after the app store launcher install to disable the Amazon launcher, though.

2. Sideloading: Again, no difference in results. I, myself, use a third way - I push stuff onto my tablet with the Windows file browser using file transfer mode on the tablet!

3. How to Notes: If it's fairly short, you could post it here. If it's going to be longer or maybe you want to encourage many replies, you'll want to start a separate thread just for ease of management's sake and to keep this thread on topic.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Insighting:
Brilliant, appreciate the welcome and advice! I'll turn the WiFi off before starting the guide. Do you know if deregistering via https://www.amazon.co.uk/hz/mycd/digital-console/devicedetails?

Would have the same effect? Thanks again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SenorSmartyPants:
I've cleared data/cache and uninstalled/reinstalled play services. But both accounts still show up in the play store user selection. Are there any ADB CLI options to nuked accounts? Or some directory to check and delete?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Nah, deregistering on Amazon's site probably won't have the effect you want.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] RhombusVoid:
If you’re capable of logging into the extra account on another device you can disassociate the device from the Google settings.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can look around, but you'll probably need a root explorer to find anything, and then you'll need root access to modify certain folders. If you find anything that works let us know, but I won't hold my breath.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] klink1948:
I just got my 10+ tablet and it won't let me proceed until I connect to wifi. Am I missing something?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes. When you get to the WiFi selection screen, choose any AP but don't give it a password. Then press the back button in the navbar. A new option should appear at the bottom: 'Skip'. Use it. :)

And welcome to XDA!

Edit: On newer firmware, the navbar is hidden during setup. Just use 'Cancel'. It does the same thing.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
There's nothing definitive about it working or not. It should work. Let us know if you try it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] keenanof:
i dont wont to break it , i want to be sure first
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It just matters that the kid's edition allows you to permit ADB Debugging. If so, the Toolkit does all it's work through the ADB shell and all can be reversed with a factory reset.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] keenanof:
it is work , thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] forkenbrock:
I was able to install the Play Store but I still have the same problem, most of the apps available on my Android phone are still not available in the Fire/Google Play store. Is there some other option to format the device and install an Android OS?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Not unless you have an older (pre-2017) tablet that's been rooted/unlocked. For the rest of us, there's always app stores like APKPure, APKMirror, Fdroid, and AuroraStore. These are all well curated app stores and some of them carry the same apps that Google does, but don't restrict you from downloading them if your device isn't "approved".

And welcome to XDA!

Edit: Nice username! I'm "forkenbrock" too after Amazon just double charged me for the tablet I bought!

(Sorry, it sounds so much like "f**kin' broke" that I couldn't resist.) 🤭
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lyon5189:
Hello everyone. I am new here and loving the firetoolbox and community so far! 😃

I removed lock screen ads from my tablet but was experimenting further and completely disabled the lock screen. In "lock screen management" it seems there is no way to re-enable the lock screen, like a dummy I assumed I could just re-enable it. Does anyone know if there is way to re-enable the lock screen?

Thanks in advance for any help and hats off to the developer for all his hard work on this tool.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] stlag:
hi. i have the amazon fire 10 HD Plus version 2021 tablet with the latest updates. i used this app and remove ads from lockscreen and amazon appls but after little hour the ads and amazon appls are here again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Indyultra:
Anyone else experience this? Tried again today, and used different versions. They all fail.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Hmm, I'm going to guess the connection is being blocked or refused.

Can you confirm that your PC is able to access the Pastebin website? (this is where the play services download links are obtained from)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Welcome to XDA!

You can re-enable the lockscreen by using Lockscreen Management > Change Lockscreen Security Type:

Then just choose PIN or whatever you like.