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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] BlakeDeadly:
Hello,

I purchased a Fire HD 8 (12th), current version 8.3.1.1, back in July of this year. I tried using the toolbox back then to limited success. I believe Amazon had just changed something that you all were working on a workaround for. Well, I revisited it a few days ago to try to get this figured out. I downloaded the new toolbox and I'm following the instructions to the very detail, but I'm still having issues with the Play Store even opening. Is there something with my version of tablet that isn't working, or is there something else I'm doing wrong? I was told to not let the tablet update, but I also read a few previous posts where people had better luck on 8.3.1.3 or 8.3.1.5.

My biggest issue is that the toolbox will work, and it will debloat and add the play store. However, even after letting it sit for several hours before the first attempt, the Play Store will not let me log in.

Any help here is appreciated!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Here are a few things you could try:

Plug the tablet into a different USB port on your computer.

Use a different USB cable.

Clean the charging port out on your tablet using compressed air.

Whitelist the Toolbox's adb.exe (default location: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Datastream\Fire Toolbox V33.0\adb\adb.exe) file in your antivirus.

If none of the solutions above resolved the issue, please do let us know, and we'll dive deeper into troubleshooting. Best of luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Fortunately, clearing data (not just cache) on Google Play Services and the impacted app followed by reboot & wait cycle resolved the issue. Waiting 15+ min for stabilization after mucking with GPS is key.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bibikalka:
Question. I am trying to disable OTA updates on Fire 4K Max that has FireOS 8.1.0.0 . What's the latest thinking on how to do it? I see that disabling OTA like this can cause a boot loop:

pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota

What would be the commands to try to limit OTA ability to connect to WiFi? Try to take away some permissions via "pm grant" or "appops" commands from these OTA packages?

I could probably set up RethinkDNS or something - but is there something simpler?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
If you are using an alternative Launcher that supports widgets (such as Nova Launcher) , you can use an app like Shortcut Maker to make widgets that link to to the Google Calendar web app .

Normally, you'd use a website link shortcut, but FireOS 7/8 do not support shortcuts (or widgets) natively. A third -party widget maker is a workaround.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Y314K:
Is the Amazon App blocked after you install the Google Services & Play Store ? I try to open the Amazon AppStore to try their Rumble app version that I use on my FireTV's & It tells me I am not registered. When I click to register the device I just get a spinning prompt but it never askes me to log in or creat a login for Amazon. It just stays spining until the screen times out. Is there a sequence I should follow to be able to use both ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Is this the 5 minute argument, or is this the full half-hour? (ref to your sig.)

You just have to sign into Shop Amazon for your tablet to be registered, that's all. If you've disabled it, you must re-enable it to register. That should solve your issue. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
also, if you use Rumble, the app in the Amazon appstore hasn't been updated in a long time and doesn't give you chat with streaming like the regular Google version does. The Google version gets updated at least twice a month.(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Earliest FireOS 8.3.1.x did not generally support ADB command disabling of Amazon apps.

f/w 8.3.1.3 to f/w 8.3.1.8 allow for unrestricted ADB command disabling of most Amazon apps (specifically OTA Updaters and Fire Launcher) , but f/w 8.3.1.9 and later began restricting ADB disabling commands again.

RethinkDNS firewall process is the most robust way to block Amazon OTA updates but requires more work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ScottyJames2000:
Thank you! For now i just manually installed the Google files, and that has given me access to the Play Store and Google apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Y314K:
Both, never get tired of anything Monty Python. Always prefer the long full skit versions. Would of love to participated in then annual Twit Olympics. All winners!!! (ref to my sig.) :ROFLMAO:

Got it, was able to re-enable the app. Will come back for some more ?'s & ideas or even a Monty Python "Argument" later. Best tool by far. TY
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] teatimecrumpet:
Is blocking OTA just to kind of ensure that any more updates don't bloat our devices?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] agentbunnybee:
Are Google services downloads still broken? This is my first time attempting to use fire toolbox as last time I sideloaded Google Play was in 2017. I'm trying to clean up a Fire 7 (7th Gen) so I can download touchportal and turn it into a streamdeck. I see a notification about google play services download not working from August, wasn't sure if that is still in effect as I can't seem to get it to work, but more likely I'm just misunderstanding how it works and did something wrong as I'm a noob at jailbreaking.

Also seem to get stuck endlessly trying to disable OTA but it looks like that's a common problem?

It looks like my fire OS is running 5.6.9.0, that might just be too late a version? I see most people here are somewhere in version 3.

Sorry if this is way too uninformed a question, I'm jumping in with both feet and just trying to figure out where to start.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
TD;LR . Block OTA updates to protect your FTB mods from future Amazon f/w intrusions.

Historically, one of the FTB "prime directives" is to block OTA updates to protect your FTB mods.

FTB is basically a set of ADB commands which manipulate Amazon/FireOS apps and allows you to make Fire tablet mods we all want.

In the "early days" (prior to f/w 7.3.2.2 , November 2020) , FTB mods were easy. With simple ADB commands you could replace Fire Lauchner with any Android launcher, block all Lock Screen ads, debloat Amazon apps, and much more. The caveat (at that time) was that the periodic OTA updates would overwrite and update FireOS kernel and Amazon apps.That would effectively wipeout your FTB mods and you would have to redo them all over again. Not a "big deal" but a major nuisance (from a FTB mod POV).

Thus the need to block OTA updates ... to protect your mods.

With f/w 7.3.2.2 , things got a lot more complicated. Amazon began "system protecting" some apps so they could not be modified; specifically OTA updates and Fire Launcher could not be disabled. To make things worse, you can't revert/rollback OTS f/w updates to earlier "mod friendly" versions.

At the time there was total chaos; FTB mods were erased but could not be reestablished. Anyone who did not block OTA updates had their well-modified Fire tablets revert to unmodifable "stock" Fire tablets.

After much effort, @Datastream33 came up with with a set of clever "workarounds" to overcome the problems. The workarounds are viable but require installing additional software and are rather cumbersome . Nifty solutions but require much more effort on your part and use up valuable system resources.

Similarly, this also applies to FireOS 8 . f/w 8.3.1.3 - f/w 8.3.1.8 appear to be totally amenable to ADB manipulation, but f/w 8.3.1.9 and later have begun blocking ADB mods as noted.

Sidebar:

FireOS 8 users (particularly Fire Max 11) have a bit of a quandary. Google Play infrasttucure appears to be much more stable/compatible with f/w 8.3.2.0 and later.

To update or not to update ... That is the question (sorry Wm. Shakespeare).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Issues with FTB downloads usually occur from FTB server overload/congestion with extra traffic around Amazon Prime sale days (just recent) and gifting holidays (Xnas 🌲) ... everyone wants an FTB modded Fire tablet !

Compatability of current Google Play infrastructure with earlier versions of Android (and early FireOS) may be becoming an issue since Google is no longer providing ongoing development or support to outdated versions.

Most recent FireOS release is f/w 8.3.2.1 .
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

No, Google services downloads have been (mostly) working all along except for a couple of brief periods where we needed to switch servers or otherwise modify the download location. If you have a partial or non-working installation, you may need to uninstall that before it will properly install. You might be best off doing a factory reset and just installing fresh with the latest version of Toolbox (v33.0). BTW technically we're not 'jailbreaking' because that involves getting root access and we can't get that on most Fire tablets these days. We are just installing Google Services and using ADB commands to modify system settings that aren't available to regular users without either a 3rd party app or ADB commands being used.

FireOS 5 has ceased getting updates AFAIK. I don't believe there are any more updates to block. Amazon typically only updates their tablets for 2 years and while you may not have the latest update, I don't believe even their final update blocks Toolbox operation. You're probably safe.

Your tablet should still be covered by Toolbox. The appropriate items that are modifiable should be available to you and the mods for newer tablets should be greyed out and unselectable. If you install v33.0 of Toolbox, it should greet you with a tour/walkthrough and you can just skip the parts that you aren't interested in doing or skip the whole thing altogether. You can always go back and change anything if you don't like the results. It's all reversible either with Toolbox or a factory reset. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] agentbunnybee:
That makes sense, lowkey kinda forgot that Christmas would affect traffic, I'll try er again when things have calmed down

If google play ends up not being compatible just because of the age thatll be ok, I'm mostly trying it because I already have the device on hand, I have another newer one lying around somwhere I can try it on too. Thanks for the reply!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] agentbunnybee:
Ok gotcha, that makes sense! I was going through the walk through, I just ran into enough loops/blocks that I figured it might be worth coming and asking to see if it was my end vs FTB end. I'm gonna try it again in a few days with some faster wifi when traffic has gone down a little

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FWIW . If you're into "full nerd" , your Fire tablet f/w 5.6.9.0 may be be "rootable" .
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] hulyahulya:
can somebody help me . i used Debloat Toolbox (FireOS 6 & 7).apk

My firestick stuck on 6.7.0.0 i cant get update anymore.

i already did factory reset but didnt help .
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
You'll probably get better help from a dedicated Firestck thread elsewhere on XDA.

FWIW, it appears that you may have debloated/disabled one the FireOS apps related to OTA updates. One of the dangers of "debloating everything Amazon" ; some Amazon apps are actually useful for device management !

If Debloat Toolbox (FireOS 6 & 7) allows, try re-enabling apps related to FireOS updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] VaegaVic:
Hi all,

Can someone please help me with a new Fire 10 2023 model?

I've used the toolbox to get it almost perfect, but the damn home button is driving me made.

I've installed Nova launcher in a 3 ways available, on different factory resets and combined and I just can't seem to get any of them to stick.

Is there a way to disable the navigation bar entirely on the home screen?

or can I physically delete Amazon's Home Pages somehow?

It's driving me mad, this is supposed to be a present for my daughter, but I want to heavily restrict what she has access to.

Using the automate method causes the screen to go back and forth between the 2 launchers, the CMD option just plain doesn't work and enabling widget support for any of them seems to break all of them.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] hulyahulya:
i Can't reenable because i factory resetted. After factory reset app doesnt recognize disabled stuff
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdagenius:
Firstly, thank you for the Toolbox and the work that goes to maintaining it. Essentially, I have found it very useful, although not without hiccups.

I have a Fire HD 8 8th generation that I rooted a few years ago and the TWRP recovery, and then stopped using it for a year or so. Recently, I thought I would explore it again and see what it would do - my use case is really for streaming Netflix and catchup TV.

I thought I would upgrade any out of date apps and see how it ran. Anyway I struggled to install any app updates and also new apps. I did try sideloading them via the toolbox and Netflix as a the hybrid app. I was not able however to workout how to install .xapk files such as the Channel4 app. The Netflix app whilst it did install via the toolbox where it said Success and was up to date, in reality running the app it complained about being out of date. I even went back to trying to install apps via the Amazon Appstore, but these would never load.

In the end I did a factory reset out of frustration and tried again with the Toolbox. Slightly better this time but still struggling to get the apps I wanted. Finally, I did another factory reset and installed the apps I wanted via the Amazon App store before reconnecting to the Toolbox. There I installed the Evie browser and disabled the Amazon bloat I don't use.

Am now a happy bunny (or santa!) with everything I want working.

My questions:

I was expecting that a factory reset would remove root and TWRP recovery - certainly TWRP remains. Am not certain if it is still properly rooted as am not particularly interested in this for the moment.

Is it worth me installing the factory image again and getting rid of TWRP?

Is there a way of checking what version of the OS I have? It is a Fire HD 8th gen, Build number 0002517057924? Would loading the factory image remove the ability to use the Toolbox?

Is there a better way of getting the Amazon apps, sideloading via the Toolbox was not reliable for the apps I wanted?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bibikalka:
I tried RethinkDNS on my "good" tablet. It appears it slightly increased latency (~3 ms), and upload speeds dropped quite a bit. I have 300 Mbps internet, get 7 ms latency 300/300 without RethinkDNS, and 10 ms latency 280/60 with RethinkDNS. Is that known?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
I haven't used RethinkDNS on other Android devices yet.

@blaacksheep has a comprehensive guide to set up and configure RethinkDNS specifically on Fire Tablets to block OTA updates here:

[WINDOWS/LINUX][TOOL]Fire Toolbox V35.0

Fire Toolbox V35.0 All-In-One Toolbox for Fire Tablets! The Fire Toolbox is a collection of useful ADB (Android Debug Bridge) tweaks that can be applied to Amazon's Fire Tablets. The Toolbox project aims to help users fully customize...

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Recognized as a standard FTB protocol for blocking OTA updates using RethinkDNS.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Ref @SweenWolf OP #1 for FireTV : FireOS 6+ Update Blocker

The Firestick user support you need is on that XDA thead. If the software borked your device, we can't help much here.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. Happy Holidays to those that celebrate something else. And to the rest of you, Have a Nice Day. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ajayioliver:
I tried using the tool for 2 of my fire devices and I got the following errors.

codename thor isnt supported/recognized by the Toolbox. Please plug in a supported Fire tablet and try again

also

codename fire isnt supported/recognized by the Toolbox. Please plug in a supported Fire tablet and try again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

It sounds like you bought a couple of new 2023 models that haven't been added to the Toolbox database yet. "Thor" sounds like a a valid codename. What Datastream33 needs with that codename is the device name (i.e. FireHD 8 2023). The other codename you supplied doesn't sound right. I don't think they would codename a Fire tablet "Fire". Please check that one again and see if it's something else. Then tell us what type of tablet it is, like with the first tablet. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] AbhinavJain:
I got my Fire HD 8 (12th gen) recently which came with 8.3.1.2 . I was having the same issue of Playstore not working on Toolbox V33. After failed attempt for few days, I decided to update to 8.3.1.3 by selectively updating the firmware by downloading and placing it in the internal storage.

Download Amazon Fire HD 8 12th Generation Tablet Firmware 8.3.1.3 for OS Independent

Download Amazon Fire HD 8 12th Generation Tablet Firmware 8.3.1.3 - Tablets

drivers.softpedia.com

https://www.touslesdrivers.com/index.php?v_page=23&v_code=73691&v_langue=en (I used this one).

I can confirm that Play store is now working fine on 8.3.1.3. Hope this helps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
@AbhinavJain

Nice job ... confirms again that the Gen 12 Fire tablets need f/w 8.3.1.3 (or later) for better Google Play infrastructure compatability.

Unfortunately, some other users trying a manual f/w update haven't been as successful; they inadvertantly triggered OTA updates to the latest f/w, which hampered their ability to make easy FTB mods.

If you have a moment, I think the Community would really appreciate if could quickly outline the steps you followed to get a successful "in place" f/w update ... the process has never been fully documented yet and a short guide would be helpful to everyone.

Thanks . 🙏
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ajayioliver:
Thank you.. The one with the codename "thor" is a Kindle Fire HDX (3rd Generation) while the second one

with the codename "kindle" is a Kindle Fire HD 10"
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Ahh. I was thinking you had new tablets that weren't added yet. I forgot about older ones. Toolbox coverage goes back almost ten years, but I'm afraid those tablets are both from before then. Here's what's covered:

Device Name:	*Generation:	FireOS Version	Base Android Version	**Restricted
Amazon Fire HD 10 (2023)	13	8	11	Yes (8.3.1.9+)
Amazon Fire Max 11 (2023)	13	8	11	Yes (8.3.1.9+)
Amazon Fire 8 (2022)	12	8	11	Yes (8.3.1.9+)
Amazon Fire 7 (2022)	12	8	11	Yes (8.3.1.9+)
Amazon Fire 10/10+ (2021)	11	7	9	Yes (7.3.2.2+)
Amazon Fire 8/8+ (2020)	10	7	9	Yes (7.3.2.2+)
Amazon Fire 10 (2019)	9	7	9	Yes (7.3.2.2+)
Amazon Fire 7 (2019)	9	7	9	Yes (7.3.2.2+)
Amazon Fire 8 (2018)	8	7	9	Yes (7.3.2.2+)
Amazon Fire 10 (2017)	7	5	5.1	No
Amazon Fire 8 (2017)	7	5	5.1	No
Amazon Fire 7 (2017)	7	5	5.1	No
Amazon Fire HD8 (2016)	6	5	5.1	No
Amazon Fire HD10 (2015)	5	5	5.1	No
Amazon Fire HD8 (2015)	5	5	5.1	No
Amazon Fire HD7 (2015)	5	5	5.1	No
Amazon Fire HD7 (2014)	4	5	5.1	No
Amazon Fire HD6 (2014)	4	5	5.1	No

The good news is that those tablets can probably be rooted and you can put in a real Android OS if you are adventurous. You can search this site or the web in general for instructions on doing that. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] simati:
Hello, with this tool, am I able to add new language (hungarain) to Amazon Fire HD 10?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Fire Toolbox can't add new languages to Fire tablets, but a possible solution (using ADB commands) is outlined here :

[WINDOWS/LINUX][TOOL]Fire Toolbox V35.0

Fire Toolbox V35.0 All-In-One Toolbox for Fire Tablets! The Fire Toolbox is a collection of useful ADB (Android Debug Bridge) tweaks that can be applied to Amazon's Fire Tablets. The Toolbox project aims to help users fully customize...

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Also:

Add more languages to Android phones sold in China or select markets

Some Android phones sold inh selected markets may not come with global languages pre-installed. Learn how to install more languages to such a phone without needing root access.

www.techmesto.com

Hey @Datastream33

Maybe a suggestion for a future new FTB function/subtool ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ajayioliver:
Thank you for this. Please do you have a link to how I can root this devices and install the Android OS? I am willing to explore the adventure.....lol

Any reference on how to do this will be appreciated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
I was fairly skilled at rooting/managing HDX devices in their day. Not easy even with provided toolsets. Do a search on "XDA HDX" for archival threads. Suggest you not invest time with these kiddos
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I don't have any direct links. It all depends on the model and year of the tablet. You'll have to do your own research here because if I send you somewhere and it's not the right instructions you could end up bricking your tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI

Some of the tecnhncal reasons why some apps won't work on Amazon Fire tablets .

From the Play Integrity API XDA thread:

[INFO] Play Integrity API - replacement for SafetyNet

THIS IS NOT A SUPPORT THREAD. For questions and support regarding how to fix your Play Integrity verdicts, see the Play Integrity Fix thread. ⚠️BEFORE YOU ASK A QUESTION, READ THIS POST AND THE FAQ!⚠️ ****Update 12/11/23**** Google has been...

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JeffieDooleyz@gmail.com:
where can I find the nubes info.. just starting out with the Fire Pad but I have alot of experience with similar apps for fire stick. Is there a beginners guide?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Start with the first post in this thread. Then download the app and follow the directions installing it. When you launch it, it will guide you through the process with the opening tour. You can choose what you want to modify and what to leave alone. Big piece of advice for beginners: don't choose to remove everything Amazon with the debloat scripts. Some of the Amazon stuff is truly needed and can always be disabled later. Just use Manual > Simple (recommended) under Manage Amazon Apps to disable the things you don't need. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Dracoriddler:
Maybe its my impatience IDK. I have used the firetool successfully on 4 devices. A friend asked for me to help with their 2022 HD8 they just got. Update the firetool and go to work.

First phase, ads. done, second OTA turn off done, install google store and services done, custom launcher done.

I go to the tablet and the launcher is stuck on a loop. I delete that, open the play store. it crashes. Reformat try again, this time I wait for 30 minutes after the google install. Store still crashes.

I reformatted about 5 times. the last I just installed the aurora store. It loaded fine. Assumed it was good. I find out days later any app download crashes instantly.

What did I do? I never had this issue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ABC00012345:
:( hard brick. I know here is a wrong place to ask but how to fix my fire hd 10 7 gen. Have flashed a year ago the wrong Rom. nothing works. No light no fastboot no recovery no boot logo. :( if I plug in to pc it detects it with installed drivers 2 seconds and then it plug out automatically 20 sec. And this again. Think there is no one who can help

QUESTION:

** Can I do something with this tool to recover my tablet, but I know it works only on booted system **

AND

IS HERE SOMEONE WHO CAN MAY HELP