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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cnwinger:
Didn't get a reply to this so I gave it a shot. Backed up the older tablet without issue. When restoring to the new tablet, I get tons of errors in the "Restoring enabled state for system package" step:

Then the backup finishes, but nothing is restored - no apps, no settings, no wallpaper, nothing.

I tried another restore after factory resetting the new tablet, but this time I first did a complete Amazon debloat and installed the Evie launcher (same as the old tablet has). No change - same errors and same issue.

What am I missing here regarding the backup/restore feature in the Toolbox?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cantante:
donde esta el link de descarga?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Hola y bienvenido!

Vaya a OP#1 y desplácese hacia abajo hasta "Descargas" (Downloads)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
OTC USB Extennal Storage

As a cautionary advisory, Fire tablets only natively support FAT32 drive format ; not exFAT ; not NTFS

FAT32 only supports 4TB max drive size

FAT32 only supports 4GB max file size

I often use small OTC USB drives to routinely transfer files to/from my Fire tablets and other devices by "sneaker net" (for convenience) without trouble.

Tonight, however, I thouhtlessly tried to backup some larger files directly to a 5TB WD external (NTSF) USB HDD and FireOS "graciously" asked if I wanted to REFORMAT the drive! ... at least it asked!

Also note that large 4k high-res media files must be recompreseed to less than 4GB to run on Fire tablets.

Caveat Utilitor !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] uweee:
Hi guys, running toolbox on my Fire Tab 10 Plus since around 2 years w/o problems at all.

Today after I was using the tablet before, its not waking up with the power button.

pressing 40+ s power button, no effect

pressing power AND volume up 40s no effect

connencting to toolbox=> no device detected

What can I do now, which is the right forum for this kind of problems?

thanks in advance
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MattsSoScene:
Just wanted to give you a quick update. I have the paid version of nova that I have used on my phone for years. What I hadn't realized is I was using the free version on my tablet. I installed the paid version and it actually has an option to override the amazon search with google. So that problem is effectively solved. Thanks again for your help!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
BTW. I think the default search engine for Fire tablets is Bing (Microsoft), although it can be set/reset to Google et al, from Amazon Silk browser (yuck!) advanced settings ... may be the only useful purpose for Silk. 🙃
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] benjaluth9:
Hi!

Does someone know how to change the horrible Amazon Fire Launcher on FireOS 7.3.2.7 on a HD 8 (no plus) 10th gen and replace it with a custom one?

Thanks in advance!

Edit: (Without Launcher Hijack)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Since you're already here, have you considered using Fire Toolbox?

See OP#1 for overview and details.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] benjaluth9:
Yes! But the option for replacing Fire Launcher in the Custom Launcher tab is grayed out (surely because I'm on FireOS 7.3.2.2+).

Or is there a way to do it with ADB commands?

(I've tried cmd package, pm set-home-activity and no luck sadly)

Edit: Tried the debloat file trick and no luck either :'( And tried the Simple debloat tab and tried disabling the Fire Launcher and it throws an error.

I'll be very grateful if anyone can solve my issue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
I see your situation and frustration.

For background, from f/w 7.3.2.2 and later, Amazon "locked down" FireOS so that Amazon Launcher cannot be disabled or removed with simple ADB commands; it will always be running. That's the reality of Fire tablets post f/w 7.3.2.2 . The clever "workaround" developed by @Datastream33 is to use Automate scripts to run an alternative launcher in conjunction with Amazon Launcher and displaying the "new" launcher in the foreground. Having to use a launcher workaround is cumbersome but very functional.

Many users prefer Nova Launcher for its flexibility and ease of use, although any launcher of your choice can be used. The most common launchers are listed and available from Fire Tollbox.The Custom Launcher option is for the installation of other launchers downloaded from other sources.

Remember that Fire Toolbox is basically a curated set of ADB commands; if FTB can't perform a function, using ADB directly probably won't work either.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If you're new to FTB, you'll want to NOT use the debloating scripts immediately because they will disable certain features that you'll need to finish configuring your tablet to your liking. Your best initial approach is to use the Manual (Simple) tool under Manage Amazon Apps, and just choose the apps that you don't think you'll need. You can always come back again later and disable more apps, but to immediately disable "everything Amazon" is a potential disaster because so much of FireOS has replaced native Android apps with Amazon apps that you won't be able to do a lot of things that you want without leaving the Amazon functions enabled. Once you have things running smoothly, you can then disable those Amazon functions that you no longer need to optimize speed. You may need to start over and replace the launcher first (and get Automate fully setup) before doing anything else.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Woolium:
Is there a fix for this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sawlw:
fire toolbox automate setup not working, tried this as well at the other automate imports, yet menu button not opening Nova, any ideas?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dsubscribe:
really need gboard working with voice typing. Also, I need this keyboard to use the copy/paste function as I use a bluetooth mouse (which is seen as a physical keyboard by the system). Unless it's a hyperlink or some text in a few apps, a menu offering copy/paste does not pop up
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Good news / Bad news ...

Bad news . Gboard voice-to-text is "functionally" disabled on Fire tablets running FireOS 7. Gboard microphone is enabled and working, but FireOS does not accept/process voice input, rendering Gboard effectively mute. Gboard is closely integrated with the native Android voice engine which appears to be disabled in favour of Amazon's own voice engine for Alexa.

Interesting that Google Assistant (and some other voice-enabled apps) can process voice commands/input though Google Speech Services but Gboard can't.

Good news . Gboard has a built-in clipboard which accepts copy-and-paste text and images. Enabled through Gboard's clipboard settings switch. Open clipboard icon on suggestion bar and turn on switch @ upper right.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Woolium:
*UPDATE**

it works after unstalling it and reinstalling
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dsubscribe:
***UPDATE to the 'FIX' below: Sorry folks. Only works if WIFI is off. In this case, I don't know if it works [wifi off] even if Fire Standard Keyboard is under the Disabled/Hidden Apps section. Strange!

***FOUND FIX GBOARD KEYBOARD VOICE TYPING [Please confirm people, & include your FireOS version which might not fix for every version]:

Regarding its voice typing, it is working on one of my tablets that has v.7.3.1.0. But on the 7.3.1.2, it is not working, despite indicating recognizing my voice. It doesn't translate to text. Both are 9th gen 10" tablets.

FIX: Although I changed to gboard , I observed that the Fire Standard Keyboard was not listed in the Toolbox's Disabled/Hidden Apps section for my non-working tablet [is listed as disabled in my working tablet]. After disabling it in Firetoolbox, voice typing is now working via gboard.

Now, I am back to using gboard for the voice typing as well as the Text Editor which allows me to select/copy/paste/arrow navigate using a mouse.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Nice find! Gboard voice-to-text can be made to work!

Unfortunately, may not work on more current f/w versions ; "no joy" on my Gen11 Fire tablets running f/w 7.3.2.4 and later. Fire keyboard may now be a "protected" Amazon app and cannot be disabled. :(

Ongoing Gboard incompatibility issues with Gen12 Fire tablets and FireOS 8 still persist.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I just tried this on my HD10 (2019) maverick tablet running f/w v7.3.1.2 and can confirm it does not work on that version. My fire keyboard is disabled but it still does not work. I could roll-back to 7.3.1.0 using a procedure from another (older) thread, but I have left well enough alone because my tablet works nicely as it is.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] knowayback:
Is the source code for this available anywhere? I'd like to make a version that runs macOS or Linux, but it would save me some time if I could see what you're doing in those ADB scripts...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] infiniUser1008:
i have a question, i know that this question might be dumb but can you add a root feature so we can root our fire devices? or is there already a feature like that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The source code is not publicly available. Currently, and for the foreseeable future, Fire Toolbox is a closed-source project. The developer is @Datastream33 and from what I gather he's not thinking of open-sourcing right now. He's currently working on a Linux port written in python, so it's probably possible to port that to MacOS once it's released. The Linux port is pretty far along and I'm currently testing an alpha build. You can check on the status at this link.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Because Amazon has taken great pains to lock down their tablets in recent years, root access has been pretty much blocked since 2019 models and firmware. If you have an earlier model that hasn't had any firmware updates since 2019, then you should search the forums for your particular model/size tablet to find rooting instructions. If you have a later model, like most of us, then Toolbox is your best friend!! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dsubscribe:
Just updated my original comment above. Only works when wifi is off. What's the link to the thread for rolling back to 7.3.1.0?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I have several links with lots of pages to read if you want to dig in. If you want to rollback 7.3.1.2 to 7.3.1.0, you'll need a FireHD10 (2019) maverick produced before December of 2019. After that, they locked down the bootloader and fastboot mode. I think you need to pull the battery to get to fastboot then.

The main links I have bookmarked are:

https://xdaforums.com/t/new-fire-hd...thod-bootloader-unlock-brainstorming.3979343/

https://xdaforums.com/t/rapid-temporary-root-for-hd-8-hd-10.3904595/

https://xdaforums.com/t/amazing-temp-root-for-mediatek-armv8-2020-08-24.3922213/

Some of them are quite long, but the first two links will get you to the right place and the third is a more generic discussion that also has the same exploit. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] callumw:
I'm so glad I wrote this back in Nov

https://xdaforums.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox-v30-2.3889604/post-87786027

My tablet did an OTA update (I can't prevent it) and it went back to the Amazon launcher.

PlayStore, Netflix, Plex, ADBBrowser and NOVA Launcher was all still there, but boot-up and home buttons went back to activate the Fire Launcher.

Quick read and it took only a few minutes in the Fire Toolbox to to strip out re-installed amazon apps inc the fire launcher again.

Back to a tidy wee tablet.

Side-note. These tablets are amazing.

I got ours on Black Friday to use as a cheap guest tablet and the standby battery on it is ridiculous.

Samsung tablets will go maybe a week before triggering the need for a recharge.

The Amazon Fire tablet (8) can go a month with the screen off while constantly updating Home assistant every 15min.

I wish our Samsung tablets were as efficient.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
They're great, for what they are. They're not a good gaming platform or much good for video editing. If you want something to watch movies or play music, or control your home automation, they're the best bang for the buck!

If you'd like to prevent updating, you can add my blocklist to your router's blacklist. That's only good if you only connect to your own network. If you want something more portable that can work anywhere you connect, you can use RethinkDNS to block the updating apps on your tablet.

There's an installation guide to RethinkDNS in my signature, along with my blocklist that you can add to your router. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dsubscribe:
What version was it originally and what is it now after the OTA? Why couldn't you prevent OTA?

I use 10" 2019 version. I don't game but use e.g. browsers, cam monitoring apps, google apps. I get app crashes and long pauses frequently these days. I am keeping eye out for great deals on higher performance android tablet though
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Glebon99:
Hello I’m having an issue when I updated my toolbox on my desktop. It was v27 before, updated fine. The issue I’m having is when I open toolbox it just shows a white screen and then it says unresponsive on the window tab. I’ve uninstalled from my desktop completely and tried reinstalling both zip and exe files and nothing works still the same thing happening, can someone help me please
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] callumw:
It's a 2022 Fire HD 8 Plus (Amazon link)

When using the ToolBox it was popping up an error when trying to run the ADB command to switch OTA off..

I'm just happy I can get it to behave as well as it does. Don't mind removing the launcher every few months if that's all it takes.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] callumw:
That's a great idea.

I run a couple of PiHoles here split in 2 halves of our LAN for resilience.

The Fire tablet is a stay at home one, but we use Tailscale VPN on all our devices and the DNS in Tailscale forces the PiHoles as DNS when we're oot 'n aboot :) No ads or tracking even on mobile data (I f*kin hate ads with a passion)

Do you happen to know the domains/regex the tablets use to call home for the updates and I'll add them to the PiHoles?

Or better yet, is there a (GitHub?) list available so I could keep the block lists up to date if they change?

I see you mentioned adding a list to the router, but I couldn't see it in the linked post
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
I seem to be getting a mostly white screen with this program. Does anyone have any idea why it is appearing that way? Using Win7 at the moment.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, the list is a file an attached file at the end of the (now outdated) post about how to deal with v7.3.2.2 or greater. Here's a link to save you the trouble of reading that whole post. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I think you need to be more specific here. What is mostly white? Is there any part that isn't white? What version of Toolbox are you running? Is it the portable or installable version? Do you have the USB drivers installed? etc.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
You're having troubles with Fire Toolbox since Windows 7 requires a set of UBB/ADB drivers which are included in Windows 10/11, but not in Windows 7.

See OP#1 and expand "Getting Started" for specific instructions for downloading and installing drivers for Windows 7.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] callumw:
Ta (y)

Quick reformat to make it PiHole compatible and then self hosted it alongside some other custom one's I've made.

7 more added to the list :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
As a backgrounder, I think the origin of your problems was the OOTB version of FireOS 8: probably f/w 8.3.1.2 or earlier.

Prior to f/w 8.3.1.3, Gen 12 (2022) Fire tablet could not use ADB to diable OTA updates (and some other Amazon apks) and the Google Play infrastructure was generally unstable/incompatible. Mostly resolved when you did the factory reset which OTA updated your tablet to f/w 8.3.1.3 or later.

Just a "heads up" reminder to new Gen12(2022) Fire tablets users to update Fire OS 8 before implementing FTB mods for best results and then, as always, "locking down" to prevent future Amazon OTA intrusions.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] AaronGTV:
thank you so much for this! This software has breathed new life in to what would normally have been unusable outdated tech... i have always been a fan of the Kindle tablets, seeing the potential in a small inexpensive tablet has the ability to be so much more... with so many companies locking up their software and hardware, and going the way "Proprietary". it makes it hard for budget creatives to keep up... with your software, you have made it possible for me to stay afloat, without breaking the bank. Thanks again! We value your existence!

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

I think most of us feel as you do about Toolbox. @Datastream33 has made it easy for us "regular people" who don't know much about coding to do some really advanced things with a locked-down tablet. 😃
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TheMorlince:
Is there somewhere to download the 30.3 micropatch or the full version? The link on the OP is still 30.2 and the application fails to scan with 7zip the archive and so it fails to install. Trying to fix the bad download links for google services in the tool.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Try running just the ToolboxUpdater.exe file (or use the shortcut created on the desktop). It should download and install the update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TheMorlince:
Same error. Going to try to just delete it all and run the installer again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The archive may have been corrupted somewhere along the line. Go to the folder shown in the error and delete the FTB_V30.3_Micropatch.7z file (the corrupted patch file) and then retry the update. It should download again and hopefully it'll work. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TheMorlince:
@blaacksheep nope, same issue

Guess I'll just wait for a full installer.

Thanks for the help regardless.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TheMorlince:
It downloads the patch and then deletes itself after the attempt.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It should download and apply the patch, delete the patch, and restart the toolbox with an updated titlebar and folder name. ??

Edit: I've saved the micropatch. It's here if you want to extract it and run it from the FTB 30.2 folder. (It's not so "micro" after extracting from 7zip and recompressing to zip so I could upload it!)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TheMorlince:
Where is this folder?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I just edited my previous post. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TheMorlince:
Thanks, trying it now. I tried to grab it after it downloaded it, but it must be something wrong on my end the file downloads as 0kb.

Your download works as much as I can extract it and put the exe in my folder, but running it just runs the toolbox saying it's 30.3 but the google services downloads still say the links seem broken and don't work.

I'm not sure what's going on but I'm in no rush and I'm sure you have better things to do. I dont mind waiting till something official comes out.

I've tried turning off my pihole and other network protections, no difference.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
There have been ongoing problems with getting Google Services running. They keep changing their servers and we keep chasing them.

Were you successful in your update? (Is the folder now named "Fire Toolbox V30.3" ?) If so, I could send you just the Google files to put in your .../bin/GoogleServices folder. Then it could update. You'd have to be running a compatible version to FireHD10 (2019) though. If you have an older version running FireOS 5 or a newer version running FireOS 8 , you'll need different files. PM me if you want to proceed down this rabbit hole and we'll give it a go. ;)

Edit: Scratch that. I don't have the current Google Services files needed because I installed this so long ago and the app has been updated so many times. If you need Google Services sooner than Datastream can update, then you'll have to do it manually and use a site like apkpure.com to retrieve the needed Google files for your tablet. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
According to that, Toolbox will start once the drivers are installed. I have started toolbox and can get to the main menu but the program background is white as well as the lettering. I can see the buttons if I hover over them but that is about it that I can accomplish since I can't really see what is there.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Looks like FTB installed correctly with the appropriate Windows 7 ADB/USB drivers, so the problem likely is in the way your Windows 7 setup is displaying FTB themes. There's a new "dark mode" in FTB v30.x but not much help if you can't access it.

It's been a long while since I've used Windows 7 and I can't recall the routines needed to change display settings. Sorry. May also be a related to outdated/incompatible Windows 7 display drivers.
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I've been trying to figure out what would make Windows behave that way. What version of Windows are you running? If it's 7, open control panel, click System and Security, click System. On the left, click Advanced system settings, in the Performance pane click Settings, scroll to the bottom of the list-box and verify that "Use visual styles on windows and buttons" is marked. (Picture below.) If using another version of Windows, the same applies, but the setting may be in a different place. The important thing is to make sure it's checked. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] :
Thank you. at least I know what might be the problem now.

The box was checked when I went to look.