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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Atleast for me, forum seems to be full of people spamming, asking same questions over and over again, not using search. Also crying non stop about everything, having bought the phone for 150usd, and expecting it to be better than say Pixel for 1000usd. I also agree that community is bad. But development is good, a lot of custom roms, been using Pie rom Pixel Experience, runs like stock, no bugs, great performance and battery life. But if i were you, i would wait for redmi note 7.. much nicer design, a bit better soc, and probably better camera. And its gonna cost basically the same, well maybe 10euros more. Its not really logical buying redmi note 5 at this time, when you have newer devices for the same price. Even redmi note 6 costs the same and is newer, but the only upgrade on it is notched screen. RN7 is a real upgrade tho

Ive been on xda forums since 2008 or so, and i would usually buy flagship devices for a ****load of money, and community was always nice. My last 2 devices, were cheap ones from china, leeco le pro 3 and RN5, and in both cases community was way worse.. So i came to conclusion, the cheaper the device is, the ****tier the community is.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] EMONESSboy:
go for poco f1
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] onliner:
And don't forget: In this community we have like 5-6 type of people:

- The PUBG user: how's the pubg gameplay plz anyone?

- The SOT lover: I have bad SOT plz dev fix asap

- The random reporter: I have X bug plz dev fix it see the screenshot

- The updates guy: Next update when plz?

- The normal user: we all know them.

Well, in my experience the worst community was with my old S7 edge, that was... my god, a little example: random people building kernels/roms full of bugs and crap, and stupid users paying to be able to use them.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] GuestK00449:
I would go however i don't like the notch design. I can get used to it but why would i want to buy a phone so i can change the software right away?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] GuestK00449:
I noticed that most of the people who are on xda are mostly indians. No offence to them but they are extremely dumb (not all of them, only the ones who ask retarded questions about this and that.). I can wait for note 7 however the 48mp camera is a gimmick.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Its not a gimmick. Its a really good sensor from samsung, and it uses pixel bining technology. Combining 4pixels into 1, resulting in waaayyy bigger pixels and way more light coming in, resulting in good quality 12mpx photos. RN7 is a midrange device for a budget phone price. You cant get sd660 with all the other goodies for this price anywhere else.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] GuestK00449:
Interesting. I can go with this phone but the glass back, not my cup of tea.

Yes it can be replaceable, but why add a glass back if your phone has no wireless charging?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] GuestK00449:
Also i found a discount on a note 5 pro in my store for just 100 bucks. It expires on 17 january. So what should i do? Buy it or wait?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Because design wise it looks much more premium than aluminium. Also they follow design line of other xiaomi phones. They released mi 8 series with glass back, and if you look at mi 8 light, youll see its the same design as RN7. So, you get new, modern design, and design wise it didnt cost xiaomi anything, because research and development was already done on mi 8 series. If they released another metal phone, looking just like RN5, people would be crying non stop.. They already were crying, because RN4, RN5, RN6 had basically same design..
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] GuestK00449:
Alright. Strangely that in my country it will cost double but alright. I will look and see how this phone will go.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Well, 100usd is a joke of a price. For this hardware, its a bargain. If you dont need that extra 10% performance, better low light photos and more modern design, go for it. You wont find rn7 for 100usd thats for sure.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] GuestK00449:
Alright. I will look and see what i will buy.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] JLLE:
The Redmi note 7 seems once again to be a very good phone for the price.

I am very happy with the RN5, updates are regular and I don't matter about dumb people who are always complaining about nothing. I'm not ready to change because I hope Android pie update as announced on the forum ( perhaps increasing photo and video mode) , but I am a bit afraid to loose call recording feature which is a very important functionality for me. As far I know, Android 9 doesn't allow it andI hope it will be still there thanks to Miui.

This is my first Xiaomi and I'm really impressed by the great quality of this smartphone.

COBOL programmers understand why women hate periods.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] GuestK00449:
I am kinda skeptical about it. Besides, when it arrives in the globe?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Yeah its not worth upgrading. But if you are buying, it makes more sense to go for RN7.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] JLLE:
Perhaps in Q1 2019.

COBOL programmers understand why women hate periods.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I guess i will wait then. Thank you for the tips.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] namhoang235:
full of unsolve problems, i suggest samsung device for better dev support
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
They locked down their software and besides their budget phones are crap compared to Xiaomi. Owned 5 samsung phones and all of them were crap (3 of them were flagships)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] N1ck474:
Samsung...really?

OnePlus, Sony, Xiaomi, Motorola, BQ...but NOT Samsung for mods/custom ROMs
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Just a type of person we talked about in this thread. Perfect example of this community, crying about some mysterious "unsolved problems", while suggesting complete nonsense, OEM which has one of the worst reputations here lol
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] JLLE:
I don't need custom rom, I need a working rom with a reliable smartphone, not too expensive, well built and with good features. And that is exactly what Xiaomi offer with the Redmi series. When you're working in IT for administrations or banks etc.. , as development manager, it's not necessary to play fortnite with the higher frame rate, because when the night comes as J. C. said, you've got wife and kids and lots of things more interesting to do with your time and your money.

And to be honest, when I'm home, I'm a bit fed up with computers and so on.

People who buy the most top notch smartphones are a real benediction in my opinion, they make price of decent smartphones affordable. So thank you very much. Please go on. [emoji12]

COBOL programmers understand why women hate periods.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Ladies and gentleman, hats off to this person.

That is exactly why i want to buy a phone for. Why the hell do i need to play games on 60fps or more when you will have a busy life anyway? Besides, you can have the best smartphone in the world with the fastest processor but if it can't last your battery and/or do good pictures.....
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] rocker00:
Can't say more :good:

The best solution I've found so far is to be silent as much as possible and i really wish that every developer here stops his work since these kind of people which are the majority (actually it's really hard to call them people) don't deserve anything, one developer maintains the whole project alone and he should be able to handle all this crap and FOR FREE, LMAO!

They don't like MIUI + they want a stable custom ROM + with regular updates FOR FREE

They are dumb and don't even want to think and at the same time on XDA, why?

And for the above post who is talking about samsung, why don't you buy from samsung? and how much is the device from this crappy OEM with a SD636 in a comparison to Xiaomi?

I said it and saying again, more cheaper is the device, more ****tier is the forum, a very simple fact!

All respect to every developer and for people who are acting like humans.

To the OP, this is my humble opinion, MIUI 10 is getting better and with some little tweaks your device can be perfect, my only issue with MIUI is the huge bloatware and the crappy apps which is very easy to solve with 6KB debloation script, try MIUI first and if you didn't like it then it's up to you but you must keep in mind that no custom ROM will ever beats the stock when it comes to stability and SURE there will be bugs on every and any custom ROM.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
As i said, the indians are here to be blamed for the useless and repetitive annoying questions that the developer gets everytime. No offence to them

Also i am buying Redmi note 7 since i noticed that the note 5 pro community except some of the people (and all developers) are toxic.

Still skeptical that the phone may come with anti rollback built in.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] MikiGry:
Note 7 looks very promising. USB-C, Snap 660, LTE-A 3CA, improved camera sensor... The only things that are keeping me from pulling the trigger is still lack on NFC and future community and developers team. Just look how poor Note 6 pro development looks like . I don't want to be stuck with MIUI :P
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Note 6 pro was a failure since all it did was to make a note 5 pro with a notch. Hopefully note 7/ 7 pro will get some attention.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] maujavier91:
but will the redmi note 7 really have a good dev support, i mean i've seen the redmi note 6 pro and their forum doesn't have the same quantity of roms as the redmi note 5 pro, it's like nobody bought the phone since there was already the note 5 pro, and now nobody will with the next generation in the horizon, also xiaomi is going to make the redmi note 7 pro with a better camera sensor and maybe a better processor so will that make the redmi note 7 irrelevant and kill it's development before it starts in favor of the pro version? i still think the redmi note 5 pro is great phone, good dev support and with the redmi note 7 coming it's price will go down too so not a bad choice either.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
To be honest, the global phone will be the redmi note 7 pro. They did the same thing with note 5 pro and note 6 pro.

I wanted to buy note 5 pro but since some people told me that the community is toxic as hell, i will pass.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Sadly note 7 pro will use a "slower gpu and less capable isp" version of the snapdragon 675. Alright.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] MikiGry:
It's not toxic. It has little too much spam in it, but it's not toxic
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] xell75:
The offical english MIUI Note 5 Forum is far more worse, they always complaining and make hundreds of threads about "Worse Battery Life after every update" or "Camera get worse with every update" or "Why no HD Option in Pubg? pls fix this in instant." Or "every update is more and more bugs" or "We need Camera2 api/hal3 support" and so go on.. That community over there makes me go crazy and when I say something positive, the people there get instantly rude to someone (with insultings too) They simply cannot accept when someone has no problem with this phone. They even go that far saying I wouldn't know how to use a phone correctly even though I have several years of experience.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Indians, again. No offence x10
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Yeah, even tho it sounds racist, its kinda true. I dont know if its just differences of culture or what now.. Listening to them, this device should be performing like 10year old HTC Desire, because after every update they cry about worse battery life, worse camera etc lol.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I am going to buy a 200$ phone and call it Iphone xs max lol

Jokes aside, i will go ahead and get myself a note 7 pro, hopefully will be cheap.

The 48mp cam is still a gimmick for me but i will go check it out once i buy it.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
As i said, its not a gimmick. Its a new sensor trend. Huawei uses it. Samsung uses it. Xiaomi used it before on Mi A2. Of course, they advertise 48mpx to give uneducated users impression that its a lot and its awesome. But in reality it works, pixel binning lets sensor absorb way more light resulting in better pictures, especially in not so well lit environment. Just because it says 48mpx, doesnt mean you can take 48mpx photos. But its not a gimmick, it trully is a 48mpx sensor. But they combine 4 pixels in to 1, resulting in 12mpx photos with better quality than your regular 12mpx sensor, because binned pixels are way larger than your regular ones and are able to capture more light. And the ability to capture more light is one of the most important factors deciding smartphone cameras photo quality. So in theory, that sensor should give a good results, but there is always a possibility that xiaomi ****s up software and all that potential goes to waste. Just gotta wait and see the first reviews.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Gcam will be handy.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Cirra92:
You are still with us! :D

I have to agree with everything written in this thread. I have even tried to steer people in right direction by telling them what's wrong and where to look for an answer, but since I'm just a regular user like everyone else and not a moderator no one was willing to give a f*** and they just kept coming with the same questions all over the place, even when the same question was answered literally couple of posts above. In the end I gave up, and I'm keeping myself away from posting.

I still to this day don't understand how people fail to understand basic forum rules. You are XDA for God's sake you should know why are you even here!

The development level here is really good, there are good maintained roms out there, and things are nice, you just have to remember to ignore 80% of the posts on every thread and you'll be okay.

As for the Note 7 Pro, it should be a really good device, telling by the rumors. SD 675 is a good chipset, it basically has everything that SD 710 has, and judging by the 660/636 scenario, I doubt that GPU and ISP are going to be much different. GPU will probably be the same but underclocked, and as for the ISP I'm not sure, since it's labeled as Spectra 250L (710 is without L) I believe it's some minor difference. Also the IMX586 is a good sensor, coupled with f/1.8 aperture should bring new level of photography to Note series.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] rocker00:
Hi :D , Yeah but a silent user!

The sad fact, nothing will be ever change here, you've my word :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Now i am afraid to even get the poco f1
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] xell75:
The people in the Xiaomi Forum for the Note 5 driving me nutz, their crazy.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] FUSiON2992:
I think it's not directly related to the price, but rather the markets in which it's popular. This device is really popular on several emerging markets, and people from such countries don't tend to speak very good English. Asking the same questions over and over again without using the search feature is common across most Internet forums, the difference is that instead of "Thanks developer for the great ROM, but I have a question: is VOLTE working?" we have "thnaks developer for greate rom, but sir, is bolte working sir, bro sir thakns".

Anyway, let's not forget many great developers for whyred are from these countries, and we benefit a lot from their work.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Antyhaker:
Exactly :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Then why they bought the phone if they expected to get a goddamn iphone or samsung flagship crap in a budget?

Lol?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
They should stop complaining because this is the ONLY brand that is in pair with the xda community.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] nyasaystheneko:
People complain about all devices no matter the price range. How does this affect you guys?

We have so many roms to choose from and official pie update is on the way. I really don't see a problem with a few people asking the same questions or just being bad at English lmao. It does not matter.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
It is annoying as they keep asking the same question over and over and over again. And then blame the community/developer for not responding. Explain.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] nyasaystheneko:
So no difference from other forums? It does not affect you. Why do you care? Did you favorite ROM die after some Indian dude asked to many questions? ?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
There is difference. For example PE thread has like 700 pages. 400 of those are same questions flooded, or mean demands for updates, or just random nonsense. How you suggest normal users find information or have normal discussion in the ocean of spam? Its not like other forums, far from it. Unless you are comparing to miui forums, then yeah, its the same thing.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] nyasaystheneko:
Normal users are supposed to use the search function remember?

Flooded or not it has no impact on your phone...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Yes, but it has effect on community. Its exactly what we are talking about, that its a ****ty community. And we care about that, if you dont, good for you, but i dont understand why are you even in this discussion then. And yes, normal users use search, but you find post you are looking for, and cant find answer for it, because answer is burried beneath 3 pages of spam.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
No. But a developer can get annoyed and remove the rom, affecting us all. You understand now?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] nyasaystheneko:
I just don't see this happening. Only a few devs got butthurt over some stuff (everyone has their reasons) and moved to telegram or similar. But how did that compare to all the new roms that are still coming along every day as well as all the old ones still getting updated?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
I still dont understand your point. Read second reply in this thread. It says "good development, ****ty community". We never claimed development is bad or that there is no custom roms available, development is good. But community is ****ty, and you cant deny that. As i said, you maybe dont care about that, good for you, but some of us do care and dont like to go around digging through **** to find information.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I'm going to lock the thread. I will see if i will buy a xiaomi device. Hopefully note 7 pro will look neat.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] nyasaystheneko:
My point is quiet obvious. You guys are complaining about stuff that don't matter. This thread is just spreading hate rather than a solution.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Then your point is frankly just wrong. Just because you dont care, doesnt mean that everyone doesnt care.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] nyasaystheneko:
I care. But I don't care for people who spread unnecessary hate.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] gregbradley:
Thread closed at OP request
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Harfainx:
Thread opened at OP request
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I requested the thread to be reopened. After digging through forums and news about Redmi note 7 pro, i decided to do this:

If the note 7 pro is not as capable as it was advertised, i will purchase the Honor play. Poco f1 has touch issues and since i am a fast typer, i don't want to sit and deal with these screen issues.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Wasnt development a must for you? Because there is no development on Honor, cant even unlock bootloader :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Was. To be honest i don't want to buy a phone and change the rom right away. Besides, as long as the software is in pair with the hardware (aka great optimisation) then idc about custom roms.

Again, i will buy honor play IF Redmi note 7 pro will not be as great as it was told. The 48mp camera is a gimmick. Phones nowdays are really expensive and bring the same things over again.

I wanted to buy redmi note 5 pro however, if the community is trash (not the development) then why would i stress dealing with people who can't help me? No offence, i still saw great people, but like i was told : The cheap the phone is, the ****tier the community is.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
And i want a phone to hold me well. I am not a gamer so games are not my priority.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] talayy:
I don't see a single valid point in your statement. Also, 48mp isn't a gimmick, get your information correct.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Alright. I guess i am wrong? At least give me some valid points why i shouldn't buy Honor Play, aside from custom rom support and unlocked bootloader.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] rocker00:
I respectfully disagree, at least for me, if I'm convinced with the device and the community is not good like here i will buy the phone and literally ignore them, you can silently get what you want, even if you're not a developer, you can make your device perfect if you know what you are doing.

Sticking on locked bootloader without even touching the system is just a crazy idea , can you guarantee that the OEM will give you a perfect ROM without needing to modify anything? the answer is NO!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] xell75:
I use my Note 5 AI since almost 3 months since I bought it, never unlocked it and touched something system related, never had any issues. And my adBlocking is made by Blokada. And unnessecary system apps like Chrome/Maps are got deactivated.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] rocker00:
It depends on your needs, here are some points which i didn't accept:

* The low volume on headphone, this's a huge problem for me since most of the time my headphone is in my ears (solved by adjusting two numbers on file)

* The screen colors should be more saturated (solved by using two root apps)

* The annoying ads (solved by removing one app)

* The audio quality on the camcorder is bad and the microphones are swapped by default if you didn't notice that (solved by adjusting 3 files )

* Don't you even want to try the GCam which is the most powerful camera app available in the meanwhile, for me ofc it's needed (needed HAL3 to be enabled)

* The lack of 4K and manual camera control and some other features (solved by changing false to true and adding the missing lines on one file)

and more...

I don't say that the device is bad and I'll never say, I'm still enjoying it but the software can be better with root, and once again, as per your needs.

Edit: I forgot to say the huge bloatware and the apps that i will never use them.