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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ravenoutfit:
I installed the toolbox yesterday under linux (Mint 21) and proceeded to debloat and tweak etc in the hope of deAmazoning my Fire (a 2nd hand 10th gen 8, on 7.3.2.7)

I've got the known issue of replacing the Fire launcher (I've used Nova for years and like it) that I'm currently trying to resolve. Launcher Hijack sort of works, it's hit and miss. The 'home' key usually activates/displays the Fire launcher and then after a few seconds, Nova takes over... or sometimes not. It's annoying but not a show stopper. Simply tapping on the Hijack app gets Nova back. If I find a solution, I'll post it.

I seem to have stopped OTA updates (more by luck than design) but have now set 'restricted' via the toolbox anyway. Initially, I got updates so tried the RethinkDNS solution but I wasn't happy with it; it seemed to mess with internal network connections. I use my tablets as device controllers too; Kodi, Sonos, LMS, etc and these apps sometimes didn't work. Tbf there's probably a solution somewhere in the settings but I didn't play around with them. Short of it is that I removed it but have had no OTA updates since (touch wood)

As the more mature version of toolbox seemed to be on the Windows platform, I tried that first. I only have a Win7 setup (a 'just in case' box) but had problems getting the Google ADB drivers recognised. The linux version installed perfectly and is a very slick, intuitive and complete piece of software - I'm most impressed (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Maybe you meant me. I have a link in my signature to a small collection of Amazon updated apps, and another link to a fuller collection.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] myechophone:
Seems familiar 😅

But I am not able to see the signature... maybe cause on mobile?

Desktop view is also not showing something or I am real blind... 😳

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] myechophone:
Nopes. I see it now..

It is under toggle signature 😎😅
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] stevejohnson42:
I had pulled V1.0 - thanks ; will review updated one - my mistake ; I thought I had snagged the latest. In very short term - I got a functioning tool - downloaded the portable version and used my wife's laptop to create on USB drive to use there :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] That_AC:
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
What's going on my Linux folks?

I just wanted to let you guys know that there's been a new update to the Linux port as well!

The Settings Database Modifier subtool has also been ported and can be found in the same place as the Windows version. Besides that, support was added for Sunstone (Fire Max 11) and that's pretty much it. Now that the Windows version update has been released I'm going to be shifting my focus back to the port.

It looks like we need to tackle a few issues with Pyarmor, and the various issues with the installer.

I would just like to take the time to sincerely thank you guys for being so patient with me, and for being so helpful towards each other.

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drovan:
annoying device dashboard icon now successfully hidden in os8. thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Awesome! Glad to hear it worked! :D

Thanks for letting us know!(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] stevejohnson42:
Just installed and ran this - all the issues I had reported previously are gone. I did not at this stage use any of the functions - I had used the portable version on Windows to get the adjustments I needed in the short term. When more time will review in more detail - Thanks for your previous inputs and suggestions
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Cpt.mactavish:
Settings database modifier subtool....need more info on it....what can be done with this...I'm kinda noob here sir @Datastream33
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] johnnyspork:
Hey there @Datastream33 , I tried using the tool on Windows 10 with the new Fire Max 11, and I've run into some issues, as is to be expected with a new thing, of course. Thank you so much for keeping up with the new models! I was able to disable my lock screen entirely so I don't see any ads, somehow, but I can't seem to make Nova Launcher the default, and I can't disable OTA updates either. Is there any chance that a fix for these issues is coming? Thanks again for all the hard work you do to help all of us :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gmeese:
On Win11 ... Toolbox 31.0 closes as soon as tablet in connected. USB debugging is on. Fire 8HD 8th gen on 7.5.2.7

Have not had any luck finding why this is happening.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JirachiGatchi:
Is there any way to disable the Startup sound using this program for an Amazon Fire HD 8 (8th Generation) tablet? Do I need to update my device? I am on version 9.2460.1.2.205752.0_2000846510.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

It's not possible to remove the startup (and shutdown) sounds with this tool. The only way is with root access which may be possible on your tablet. You'd have to search for root solutions to your particular tablet. If you can get root, you would have to go into the root directory and remove/replace the sound files that you want to disable/replace.

Your version number should look like 7.3.x.x, not that long string you supplied. If you have Toolbox working, click on the tablet description in the lower-left. It will bring up an info screen with all your tablet's information including the firmware version.

You do NOT need an update. By the sound of it, you've got a pre-7.3.2.2 tablet with OTA updates turned off. You don't want to update it because it will lock out some of the more important features of Toolbox and you'll have to use workarounds to achieve the same results. (It's more memory intensive to use the workarounds and these things don't have much RAM to start with.) :)

Edit: You can turn down notification sounds all the way and that will do it, but it will stop all other notification sounds. I believe turning on "Do Not Disturb" will also stop the startup/shutdown sounds, also at the expense of other notification sounds.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pipyui:
Same issue with v2.0 beta (tho the titlebar says 1.0) on EndeavourOS. No amount of tabbing or spacebaring seems to resolve it :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hmm... it would seem we have a sizing issue. I don't run Endeavor, but you can get by that screen by pressing Tab once (which highlights the hidden "Next" button, and pressing "Enter".

Another note for @Datastream33 to address in the beta.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ams3401:
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Sorry for the late reply. Just got home from vacation.

Anyway, so happy to hear that the new update has resolved the issues you've encountered. Much work is still needed, so I'd really appreciate any further input you can provide. Thanks again friend, and hope you're having a great weekend so far! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Hmm, the restrictions have been placed directly on launch? If you'd be so kind... could you please provide the FireOS and Android versions? This information can be obtained by clicking the name of your tablet in the lower left hand side of the main menu. We may have to unfortunately drop the Max 11 to the workaround tools/subtools we've been using for FireOS 7.3.2.2+.

Thank you so much for the support, and it's always a pleasure to help out! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] A-question:
How are people finding the new 11 tablet?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jcvof:
I used Fire Toolbox on mine and it installs the play store fine but most of my streaming apps (ESPN, Paramount +, Sling TV, and Peacock) crash on start. I've tried downloading them from both the Amazon app store and the google play store and same thing. If I remove the google services, they work again. Guess I'll have a to wait and see if this issue is fixed, but less likely to hold on to this tablet if no play store
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tardis89:
I am having a similar issue on my brand new Fire 8 tablet. When I install apps from the Play Store, they crash at random moments after being open. Sometimes before opening and other times after a couple minutes of running. Not sure what the cause is or what I can provide for troubleshooting.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Hittsy_TW:
So far, really pleased save for a few hiccups. Peacock (Amazon appstore) and Nebula (sideloaded via google play store) crashes on startup, the google play games popup to sign into games doesn't seem to work either.

The thing performs really well in games (compared to other fire tablets), although I wish I could decide what games trigger Amazon's game mode, not just them.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ravenoutfit:
Are they actually crashing? That is, as opposed to being 'backgrounded'?

I only ask because I've got something odd/similar happening on my debloated 2020 8 on which I run Nova launcher. I think what is happening in my case is that the LauncherHijack is possibly causing Nova to run intermittently and take foreground (as if the 'home' button has been pressed) This effectively backgrounds whatever app I was using at the time. If I go back to that app, it hasn't crashed, it's exactly as I left it.

So I guess my question to you is 'do you run a different launcher and/or LauncherHijack?'
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jcvof:
I'm not running any launcher but Amazon's with my issues. I went into Developer setting and turned on the option to always report crash errors but none seem to pop up when they do, so it's very possible that they are just getting backgrounded.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tardis89:
I am using the Nova Launcher. I will have to check if they are actually crashing tonight. I'll also check to enable the crash reports like @jcvof mentioned and see if I'm getting any crash reports.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] darbNator:
Has anyone with an HD10+ had issues where wifi will slow down and when you turn wifi off it crashes the tablet and it restarts?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I'd be more then happy to provide more info about the subtool!

What is the Settings Database/Settings Database Modifier?​

The Settings database is essentially the place where the values of some settings are stored persistently. It's easy to read from, and an convenient place to store theses values.

First, let's jump into what tables are in the settings database and what keys they contain:

System - Contains keys that hold the value of some system settings (screen brightness, media volume, etc).

Secure - Contains keys that are unique to your user profile. Each user has their own sets of keys and values. (enabled keyboard, accessibility services, navbar layout, etc.)

Global - Contains keys that effect all users. (lockscreen ads, household id, advertising id, etc.)

Essentially, the Settings Database Modifier allows you to modify, edit, and delete keys from within each of these tables.

How Do You Use the Subtool?​

The subtool gives you three functions to manipulate the database with: editing, deleting, and adding key values.

Editing​

To edit a key value, simply double-click on the key you want to edit. A new edit panel will appear, with text boxes for the key name (this textbox will be read-only during an editing), and the key value. Change the value of the key to anything you want, and then click the "Save Changes" button. Sometimes the new value won't be applied until the tablet is rebooted.​

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Deleting​

As with the editing function, simply double-click the key you want to delete. When the editing box pops up, there will be an option to delete the key at the bottom right. Once you click the "Delete Key" button, it warn you about deleting keys and will ask you if you'd like to continue. Be very careful as this is probably the strongest function of the three as it could lead to a softbrick!​

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Adding​

In the upper-right hand corner of the tool you'll find the "Add Key" button. Once clicked, it will pull up a similar panel to the edit panel. However, the Key Name and Key Value textboxes will be blank and will allow you to enter your custom data. Once the fields have been populated, click the "Add Key" button. Your custom key should now be added to the database!​

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Hope this helps, and please let me know if you have any further questions!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

I'd say that @blaacksheep hit the nail on the head. However, I suppose it could be possible to mute the device before it shutdowns using an Automate flo. If you have Automate, try downloading (download link) the "Silent on Shutdown" flo onto your tablet, and import it into Automate. Ensure "Run on system startup" is enabled in Automate's settings so the flo can restore your volume when the tablet is booted. Can't say 100% that it will work... but I suppose it's worth a try, right?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] johnnyspork:
FireOS Version: 8.3.1.9

Android Version: 11.0

Apologies for the delay, was away from my PC and didn't have a way to get the info until today. Here's hoping that helps. And mine did an OTA update within the first few minutes of turning it on that I couldn't get out of, so I really had no choice there. Here's hoping some of those workarounds will work for me. I might be familiar with some of them, but I'd love to hear more info about those if anyone would be so kind as to link me to something I can read. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tardis89:
So I reset my Fire HD 8 tablet and installed the Play Store manually instead of the Fire Toolbox and the apps are still crashing. I did go into the settigns and noticed there was a "Game Mode" checkbox. I disabled that, and the apps were able to run for a bit longer before crashing, but they still eventually crash. This appears to be an issue with the Play Store itself and not the launchers or anything else as all I have installed right now is the play store and no other modifications.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] 22jk:
I was able to get Nova Launcher to work on the Fire Max 11 with Launcher Hijack workaround.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, Launcher Hijack you say?

Is there still a 5 second delay before your custom launcher appears when tapping the home button?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] 22jk:
No delay when I click the home button.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Now that is interesting...

Would you be willing to run a few commands in an ADB Shell for us?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] 22jk:
Sure
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] the orange bandit:
Is it possible that there's a toggle/setting somewhere to disable the tablet's propensity to automatically power on if a charger is connected while it is powered off?

It charges significantly faster if the tablet is powered off while charging. Additionally, sometimes I want to throw it in my bag connected to a portable power bank, so I want it to charge, but I don't need it to be on while doing it.

Wasn't sure if there's a toggle somewhere that could be added to the system settings to disable that?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Awesome! Thanks so much!

Try executing these commands, and let us know the output(s):

pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.firelauncher

pm list packages -s
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] johnnyspork:
This also worked for me, and no delay when pressing the home button. I wasn't able to get Nova Launcher working with either of the Toolbox methods. (Disable and Shortcut) Thank you so much for this helpful advice. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
AFAIK, that behavior is the default for FireOS just like the startup sound and can't be disabled or changed without root access. Luckily, they left us the option of turning the tablets back off after plugging them in! 🤨
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, that's so odd to me. The Launcher Hijack method hasn't been viable ever since the introduction of the 5 second delay back in FireOS 5. Perhaps it was removed in Android 11? Anyway, it's awesome that it now works!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] parataxis:
Hi, hope all is well enough, hopefully I can resolve this issue: I need TTS voices but when I try to download from Amazon it says "Download in Progress" indefinitely.. I am assuming OTA Restricted is causing the blockage but afraid to turn it off since it might update the Fire OS to the latest.

p.s., check /.system./tts for those binfiles, if anyone has them please send them my way!

Thank you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

You're probably right on the restriction causing download issues. I've attached all the bin files located in the specified directory, pulled from my tablet. However, I'm not sure if there is a way to import the bin files?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] teoterg:
Problem with fire hd 8 plus 2022. When I install Youtube from the Play Store, crash at random moments after being open. Sometimes before opening and other times after a couple minutes of running. Not sure what the cause is or what I can provide for troubleshooting. Install nova launcer but i see no different
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lewmur:
If you are using a smart charger, it shouldn't charge faster when off. Smart charging requires the tablet to be on so that the charging app can control the charge rate.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I think that most of us just use the 10-15W charger that comes with the tablet or another such charger. If so, they definitely charge faster when powered off. I don't really know of any "smart chargers" that work with the active tablet to control the rate of charge. I wasn't aware that Amazon had included anything like that on their devices. I had always assumed them to be cheap, budget devices.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lewmur:
You are probably right that Amazon doesn't use smart charging but that is the usual reason for Android devices to turn on when you plug in the charger. Good ones will only boot to loading the kernel and charging app, but some just boot the whole system.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Hyperlink3309:
Does the new fire max 11 support DP-alt mode? I would like to use it as multimedia tablet and connect it to a TV/projector if possible.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] yakon:
Guys I cannot use the fire toolbox on my tablet. I always get the same issue. Here is a pic.

My tablet is a fire HD10 (GEN 7) Running Fire OS 5.6.0.1

can someone help me.

I use windows 10 pro
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Zerosaber:
I apologize if my search-fu has failed me.

I just got a Fire HD 10 (to replace my old Nexus 9... RIP) with FireOS 7.3.2.6. I followed the FIRE HD 7, 8, 10 (2018 - 2022) Guide in post one. Then I went ahead to "Android-ify" the HD 10. Still in the honeymoon phase, and I am loving it.

But as part of my Fire Toolbox experience, I disabled automatic updates and restricted OTA updates. Am I now stuck being on FireOS 7.3.6.2?

What are the steps to upgrade/patch the OS without heavily affecting the changes made on Fire Toolbox.

Other than that, good job! Fire Toolbox is actually a huge reason why I decided to get the Fire HD 10.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Toolbox is a great piece of software that makes Fire tablets usable once the launcher and lockscreen ads have been removed. Since firmware version 7.3.2.2, the ability to turn off OTA updates has been locked out and we are left with blocking them on either the router, a PiHole, or using RethinkDNS on the device itself. Restricting OTA updates will work for the most part but it eventually will ignore your request to not download big files and will update itself anyway. When it updates, it will jump straight to the most recent firmware release and wipe out most of your modifications requiring you to run Toolbox again to restore them. Also, with any updates, we run the risk of them blocking Toolbox further and eliminating our ability to do certain things. All in all, it's not worth letting it update at all. There aren't any real security updates and only Toolbox functionality to lose with an update. It's not worth it.

In my signature is a guide to using RethinkDNS to block updates. It's pretty straightforward, but it does use the VPN interface of the tablet. If you use a VPN, you won't be able to run RethinkDNS simultaneously with the VPN. In that case, you can add my blocklist to your blacklist rules in your router to prevent updates, or use a PiHole with the same blocklist.:)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] 9volts:
Hmm, where is it trying to download files from?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
There have been ongoing troubles continually with the Google Services downloads and @Datastream33 has changed the links several times to try and fix them. They usually work for a while, then quit working and we get a micropatch update with new links. You could do as suggested and wait a day or so and try again. Alternately, you could try the portable version of FTB V30.2 or V30.3. Maybe those links still work. V31.0 worked for me about 2 weeks ago when I installed it on my HD8 (2020).

The other way is to download them manually from APKMirror or someplace like that being careful what versions of the components you install and of the order of installation. You'll have to search the posts for a list of the files needed, which versions to grab and the order to install them.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Zerosaber:
Thanks for answering so quickly and concisely! I'm not bummed out by not being able to update. I saved this thread and I will check it weekly for any meaningful updates to Fire Toolbox or the Fire HD 10 itself.

I'm not too worried either. I mostly using the HD 10 for web browsing (and by extension, tabs with interactive maps for some games I play), reading PDFs (art books or board game manuals to which I make notes) and companion apps to some board games I play.

I might actually turn off the wifi and just turn it on periodically for app updates.

Thanks again!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
This MAY help you if you have an HD 7, HD 8, or HD 10 running FireOS v7.3.x.x. It's a 81 MB zip file of the Google Services folder to replace that folder in your installation. I believe Toolbox will see the folder populated with all the .apk files and will sideload the ones you select directly rather than downloading them again. It's from a slightly older Toolbox installation, but they should auto-update once installed in your tablet.

You'll need to extract the zip into your "C:\Users\<your username>\Appdata\Local\Datastream\Fire Toolbox v31.0\bin" folder and allow it to replace the existing Google Services folder. Then try running Toolbox again and it should install the required files.

Let me know how it works for you or if you need any help. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] 9volts:
are these for Android 9 (x64)?

That is what it is trying to download.

so, if they are, could move them to that folder, so I am just making sure they are the right version
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
YES! I you follow the instructions, you will succeed .