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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] calipolo:
Thanks for responding! I actually tried this (replaced the `NovaLauncher.apk` in the directory you mentioned with a fresh version) and I get the same error. I actually get the same error any time any APK is pushed to the tablet, including those downstream in the FTB initial setup wizard.

Like I mentioned in my last post I also tried wiping my Fire tablet clean, skipped the wifi setup (so as not to download newer Fire updates), and tried all these steps to no avail.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] stroke55:
Do you mean the tablet uses port 81 for DNS queries instead of port 53?

I am currently using DNS Changer which redirects DNS queries to my pihole via a local VPN.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
No, the virtual server was modified to listen to requests on port 81. This way I can just use the server_ip:81 in the browser to access.

I was testing things out with https://www.whatsmydnsserver.com/ , no matter what, it kept coming back with google and various others on ipv6, even when ipv6 was disabled system wide. Ultimately, it appeared the tablet wasn't using the local dns.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] stroke55:
Ah, ok you meant the access to the web ui.

But I do not understand why it is not working with my local "pi.hole" name - TCP 53 is open (UDP 53 should be open as well). However it runs well with DNS Changer.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] greatstuffuk:
ok next issue, im trying to create an amazon account and they wont llet you create one without entering a mobile number??? its a mandtatory? seriously?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Here's Jonny:
Hi

I just want to check after using the toolbox if I want to revert back I can just factory reset and that will do it. Is that correct ?

Is there anyway to get the toolbox to start again with the guided setup ?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cyrusalmighty:
I did the same thing on a new Fire HD10. I updated and then got the same error trying to disable Fire Launcher. I tried to factory reset thinking it would revert to older firmware but it didn't work. That only logs out of Amazon I guess. Now Im wondering if I just return for same Fire HD but thats not updated to try again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
Factory reset just resets user data, not firmware. Exchange or buy from a source that hopefully has older stock.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cyrusalmighty:
Does anyone know if choosing to Not Sign In will stop OTA updates? My Fire 10HD is on 7.3.2.2 at this point.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cyrusalmighty:
I only bought this fire hd10 because of the $79 Black Friday deal honestly. With my luck If I exchanged it will probably be updated when new one arrives. Still seems like a decent tablet when most of the Amazon stuff is off of it. It runs Stadia flawlee over 5 ghz wifi and browses internet and runs many apps. And thanks to Fire Toolbox I got YouTube Vanced Dark running. Would love a custom launcher though and to lock OTA updates
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] begunfx:
Slightly off topic. Any chance there's a "Kiosk Mode" available in the toolbox or can there be one added? Or do you have a recommendation that work work well with Fire OS? Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I know there's a lot of posts here, but people keep asking the same questions. Please take the time to read back at least a few pages, because your question may have already been answered.

Once again:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
Just wanted to say thank you for this Toolbox, and this entire community. Everyone here is amazing and so helpful. Wish the entirety of society could be as productive and courteous as XDA communities are. Got my tablet how I want it (I love customizing Android), and it looks and runs amazing. I'm installing KWGT on top of Nova, and installing my favorite icons and custom widgets as we speak.

Thanks again.

Edit: KWGT in the Play Store doesn't give the option to install to this tablet. I downloaded the .apkm bundle package for it, but even that requires an app installed on the tablet to install it, but I'm not even positive sideloading it will work, and I don't want to chance screwing anything up.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
Is it safe to register the tablet to Amazon services after going through all of the Toolbox setup and blocking OTA, ads, etc?

Also, do I need microG if I already sideloaded the Play Store and Play Services? Something I've noticed is that once you add your account to the Play Store, you can't remove it because when you try to select "Manage accounts on this device" it does nothing, I assume because this OS has no variant of Google account services. I was under the impression that Google Account Manager was supposed to fix that. But I don't see any account manager options on the tablet, nor do they pop up when selecting them from the Play Store. I was hoping microG would pick that up, but I guess not. It'd be nice if Vanced Manager had its own version of Play Store under it that linked to microG.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] flying-lizard:
I installed "Google Messages", but can't use it. When I open it, it says "To use Messages, make it your default SMS app", there's a button "Set default SMS app", but pressing it doesn't do anything.

I've seen posts here from people using "Google Messages", so apparently it's possible. Any idea what it wants from me?

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
I used the Toolbox to remove ads from my tablet, and block OTA yesterday. The tablet hasn't updated, but today the ads are back on my lockscreen. Did I miss a step? Also, how do I get the Toolbox to redo the whole setup process like I'm running it for the first time again?

Edit: It seems as if installing Youtube Vanced, Vanced Manager and their microG, somehow lockscreen ads were added back, and the lockscreen has changed from what it was before I installed these apps from the Toolbox. Before, it simply showed a wallpaper of a bunch of lightbulbs and allowed me to unlock it while swiping. Now it shows a semi-transparent background with my notifications on it, and my wallpaper from my launcher desktop behind it. All of this happened only after installing Vanced Manager and microG. Had to remove ads again. Very strange.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Try running the following command in an ADB Shell and see if this works:

New gen tablets (2018 - 2021):

pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.kso

Old gen tablets (2014 - 2017):

pm hide com.amazon.kindle.kso

As far as your second question goes, all you need to do is open the Toolbox's settings window (click the cog in the upper-right hand corner of the Main Menu),

and in the Startup tab check the box next to "Welcome Screen". Once the box is checked, the Toolbox will notify you that a restart is required. You can either click the restart button, or close out of the Toolbox and re-launch it. That should do the trick. :D

Please let us know if you need further help or have any other questions. Have a good one!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] onlineaddy:
Apologies for the re-ask: can Toolbox create persisting 2nd user profile and execute its tools against that profile?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hey, no need to apologize! It's a great question!

While the Toolbox is capable of creating additional users using the User Management tool they most likely won't remain persistent, and may be deleted once the profile goes idle or the tablet is rebooted. However, the Toolbox is indeed fully capable of modifying other users besides the default one. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] onlineaddy:
Thank you; appreciate all that you do.

Yeah, I couldn't modify my second profile or get it to persist. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong: can't add Google services, debloat Amazon apps, or apply a different launcher. This is after switching to that user and requesting changes to be applied to the foreground user.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
It's my pleasure friend! :D

You may need to restart the Toolbox, once you switch to the other user. Just to make sure it reads the foreground user correctly.

🤞
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] geearf:
Hey,

Why not! If you're all using more advanced features, maybe that is better and I should try. I installed it, have set the same for left and bottom left, and for right and bottom right to start, I'll see how that works, but yeah that may actually be better than buttons and I'll switch to that on my phone as well.

I appreciate the hint, thank you!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] drhebbe:
Hi, guys.

How can I change the font of Fire tablet?

I want to use 3rd. party font but have no idea how to do it.

Please help me.

Thank you!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kennethk1:
This may have been answered but my issue seems to happen upon restart, the ads go away on the lockscreen but after a restart the appear back, and nova launcher wont set as default either though I was able to get the play store on it but the fire UI still seems to be there.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] greatstuffuk:
will isntalling apps etc using this on a fire, get your IP or device or account banned with amazon?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pocopoñy:
Hi again.

I've done a factory reset through the bootloader and now it seems to work, at least quitting off all of the amazon unnecessary apps and lockscreen ads.

Now I was about to disable the lockscreen but it has got stuck in the "checkin to see if the device is locked with a pin or password..." message. I don't know what to do to make it work.

Another doubt is about launcher options, which one do you recommend to have minimum interferences and fast boot???
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gguerra:
Just a thought, as I've never done it on an Amazon tablet. Would it not be possible to save a ROM that has a previous OS on it, then flash it over one of the updated tablets?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] onlineaddy:
That was it!

However, in attempting to install Google services, two failed (Play Services and Play Store): adb encountered INSTALL_FAILED_VERSION_DOWNGRADE.

Should I manually sideload the apk's as instructed in post #5310 using that zip file? I'm working with a gen-11 HD 10+.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipTS:
Just got a new Fire HD 10 (2021) and it updated to Fire OS 7.3.2.2

I managed to Install Play Store but many things are not working.

Is there a way to disable further updates from the router firewall?

Like blocking amazon update server IPs, Hostnames?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gguerra:
further updates may not be an issue. 7.3.2.2 is the one with the issue so kind of too late.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ukphish:
Thanks so much for this app!

My experience - I initially ordered a Fire HD 10 Plus without ads - but they were out of stock until Xmas eve. I noticed that the with ads version was in stock so I ordered one of those in the hope that I could use Fire Toolbox to remove the ads anyway. Unfortunately I had ticked the remember my account box.

Today the tablet arrived. I started the Toolbox and then unplugged my router - no wifi in the house. That allowed me to enable developer mode, connect and disable updates - success!

My HD 10 Plus, with adverts, ordered on Tuesday 30/11/21 came with Firmware 7.3.1.8, dating from February 21, so Amazon do still have some old stock.

I'm happy with that, can I just ask if there is a method to safely upgrade to 7.3.1.9 without upgrading too far?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipTS:
The point is that hopefully somebody might figure out how to make things work again.

So I might stay at 7.3.2.2 as further updates might make things worst.

I already blocked from my router all outgoing traffic from the MAC address of the tablet.

I also enabled logging on the DNS server to see all queries that the table send.

I already see the below ones and I will check the logs tomorrow again.

device-messaging-na.amazon.com

dcape-na.amazon.com

softwareupdates.amazon.com

updates.amazon.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] onlineaddy:
Hi, I just tried. The first two apk's installed fine. But, the 3rd, Google Play services, failed with "App not installed."

This behavior mimics what I saw when using the Google services tool in Toolbox.

Note that I'm doing this for my 2nd user profile on the device. Any other suggestions on how to get this to work for additional profiles?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Der_Praktikant:
First of all, thank you for this tool and for consistently improving it!

I received my Fire HD10 (2021) today but was stupid enough to let it update to 7.3.2.2 because i didn't read the warnings before.

How high are the chances that you can find another way to disable OTA Updates and change the default launcher again? Looking forward to future updates of this tool.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Here's Jonny:
Hi,

I followed the setup guide and went through the guided configuration debloating using the recommended settings.

I'd like to install the Kindle reading app and Alexa, how can now do this ?

I've not installed the Google apps yet, when I have will I be able to install Nexflix and Prime ? Or will I need the Amazon app store to do that ? How would I reinstall that ?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] buzz99d:
Just got my fire tablet 10 plus today. Thanks for making this tool. Saved me from side loading all the apps and google frame work. Worked flawlessly .
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] onlineaddy:
I successfully installed all four Google Services apk's, particularly Google Play services and Google Play store, for the 2nd profile on my HD 10 Plus. Below is what I did in case others run into the same issue:

Use ES Explorer to extract the apk's from the main profile. In my case they are Google Play services_21.42.18 (100400-410302452).apk and Google Play Store_28.0.34-21 [0] [PR] 410833180.apk.

Use Toolbox to sideload them to the 2nd profile.

Note that the versions are newer than the apk's included in the zip file in post #5310. Those in the zip did not work for me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Slimshiesty:
Hello, recap on my Fire hd 10.. returned for new one care of BB.

ran the toolbox and adjusted to my liking.

play store does not show Disney+, reputable place to pick up apk?

thanks for the help here, much appreciate it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's in the Amazon appstore, or you can load it from the Toolkit under the Hybrid Apps tool.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipTS:
This link now downloads file update-kindle-Fire_HD10-PS7322_user_2519_0022247233412.bin

This seems to be FireOS 7.3.2.2 if I judge from the filename (PS7322).

Maybe we should put a warning on the first message of this thread?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Here's Jonny:
Hi. What's the hybrid apps tool ? Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
I believe this is what you're looking for (update-kindle-Fire_HD10-PS7321_user_2324_0021274104964.bin):

Download Amazon Fire HD 10 11th Generation Tablet Firmware 7.3.2.1 for OS Independent

Download Amazon Fire HD 10 11th Generation Tablet Firmware 7.3.2.1 (Tablets)

drivers.softpedia.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
Well, Hybrid Apps is a tool within the Toolbox. When you run the Toolbox program, Hybrid Apps will show up as an option there.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipTS:
The million dollar question ... is there a recovery mode that we could use to side load this version to downgrade? Wishful thinking, something like ODIN for Samsung devices ...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cpc71783:
As Falcon342 previously said, "Amazon implements downgrade protection so this might result in a bricked device."
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pocopoñy:
Wipe all data. Enter the debug mode. Turn off the fire, turn on pressing ON+VOL-, when the launch amazon screen appears you can stop pressing ON, but continue with the volume - key, and in 30 sec you have the menu screen, then choose wipe all data.

You got the device as new, with the stock version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pocopoñy:
Sorry to bother

I have installed microsoft launcher through your toolbox app, but though everything was OK in the installing process, the microsoft launcher is just an app in the desktop, and still got fire launcher on.

Tried to restart but everything seems the same, except if I enter microsof launcher app.

Can anybody explain me how to make the launcher default ??? Also tried Nova one and it happen to be the same.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PhilipTS:
Sounds like you are on Fire OS 7.3.2.2?

That is the behavior that I am also having.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Yesmulator:
As far as I know, factory reset do not revert back to stock firmware. I tried myself just in case I'm wrong but it didn't work for me. I will try again later.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pocopoñy:
It worked fine for me after wiping all data, despite I am on firmware 7.3.2.2

I don't know the reasons but it worked.

Only having problems now to have a custom launcher default at the start.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dino0811:
My HD10 came with 7.3.2.1 and i just added my wifi and it updated to 7.3.2.2. :rolleyes:

This means this way i could go back to 7.3.2.1 ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] M24:
I also did the update :-( ....

Had a brandnew HD 10 (11th Generaion) :-(

I'm now on 7.3.2.2.

GAPPS, Playstore and Nova was not a Problem, but Adds came back, and there is not a suitable navigation bar app out there the prevent stock launcher from starting... Do you think you'll find a solution, or is it kind of unlikely? Then I'll maybe send it back.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dino0811:
thanx, that's what i thought.

so i will (hopefully) wait for a fix ...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DJPellegrino:
I'm also on 7.3.2.2 and the initial toolbox failed to install Google play services. I did the factory reset/data wipe as you indicated. I'm still on 7.3.2.2, however the toolbox now works. I installed Google play services with no problem.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] zenstrata:
Mine is on 7.3.1.9 as well

It forced me to connect to the wifi before it would let me do anything else. Luckily I have slow internet and so was able to stop it from updating, even though it desperately tried to update. I was able to disable wifi while it was downloading the update.

To be honest, I would love an option to entirely erase the device and load a standard android operating system on it. I don't like having all those amazon things hiding on there. would prefer if they were erased entirely.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] zenstrata:
One request - when I try to load certain games from the Google Play store, it gives me the msg "Your device isn't compatible..." Even though I know it IS compatible.

I read there was a way to modify a file on the system to allow it to Bypass Device Restrictions by spoofing the ID of the device with another more popular device. Basically lying to the google play store so that when it looks at the tablet, instead it would see something like a Samsung Galaxy phone or something and then let you download things.

This is where I found the information on how to edit the files in question...

How to Install Incompatible Android Apps from Google Play

Some Android apps on Google Play claim to be incompatible with various devices.

www.howtogeek.com

Is there any way this could be included in the toolkit as an option?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] zenstrata:
Ahhh,... so the fire toolbox is not a root then? Drat.. I was hoping it was.

Is it possible to root this device?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] k8108:
Thank you for suggesting this app! I'm using it with Nova launcher on the Swipe Up gesture. Totally makes this tablet usable. Bypasses the Amazon home screen. This will do hopefully until a fix can be found for the toolbox on the newest firmware.

Thanks again!!,
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] zenstrata:
Thank you for the information! It's too bad we don't have anything like a drive format option such as we have for PC's.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
~~~

Just to elaborate for those that don't know, when you get to the wifi setup screen, choose any wifi. On next screen you'll be asked for the wifi password. Instead of giving a password, choose to go back a screen. Now you will be offered a "skip" option on the wifi chooser screen. Use it!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] onlineaddy:
What is the technical reason behind Toolbox-created users not persisting (even without a device reboot)? Any solution or workaround to this problem?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Comando156:
For those that got a new tablet during black Friday, updated during first boot, and then tried to run this tool to find out the update f'ed you....

To remove lock screen adds, contact customer service and ask for help removing adds. They will say its $20. Say that seems high and you see a lot of posts online about people contacting amazon and Amazon removes for free. The rep told me one moment please, as you did not know there is a fee, we will remove for free. Provide serial number, few minutes later, done.

Now I just need to change my toolbar to a custom one to launch nova by default and issues fixed until our XDA pals figure out the rest. Thank you community!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] hmoobguy:
Hello and thank you for this awesome tool. I have a question about removing Google accounts. I've already forced signed out from another device but it is still showing under accounts will this clear it?

Based on the information on page 1 of this forum,

"Google Services and the Play Store.

• Google Services (Manage)

• Add/Remove Google Accounts"

Thanks

Fire hd 8 plus (10th gen)

Build # 0019696956292
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] guyver2077:
You have no idea how dumb I feel. Been using this tool for a few years and first time I've f'ed up by updating prior to updating and /or checking toolbox.

So can we still install Google play , etc without the tool box?

Interesting idea about contacting support about ads. Might try it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mrkp89:
Glad you are aware of it at least. What's the best way for me to stay updated on this issue if you end up finding a solution? Check back every once in a while? You think the solution would make it to a release note?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Comando156:
Installed Google play with the tool box. The only things the update broke were lock screen add removal and ability to set another launcher as default launcher. Amazon removed my adds for free and I installed a custom navigation bar that someone posted a few pages back to set nova as default launcher. From my understanding... This puts me in the same place I would have been without the update. Google play store and everything else works.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] guyver2077:
Awesome ty. I think I will be fine then.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] beartiger:
I have searched but it is not totally clear to me, so can I please ask, is the problem version 7.3.2.2 ONLY for the HD 10? The latest I can find for my HD 8+ is 7.3.2.1 and I want to know if it is safe to upgrade to that and still use the toolbox?