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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] benk81:
i installed the ADB drivers before i installed Toolbox. when i launch Toolbox, i get the "driver detection" prompt saying the drivers aren't installed and asks if i would like to install them or not. if i click "No", it just quits. if i click "Yes", it runs the ADB driver installer, which prompts me they are already installed and if i want to install them again. if it i install them again, Toolbox still just quits when they're finished installing. the whole time, there is a CMD window with "The system cannot find the path specified." it disappears with either choice i make. i've uninstalled and re-installed Toolbox, and the same issue.

please help me to get this running, as i am quite interested to use it.

thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] perkeso:
Hi, all.

I used 4.4 toolbox to delete all Amazon apps and skip the "Offers" ads on the lockscreen. It went well for a couple of days, but later I noticed that some Amazon apps have returned to the main screen and "Offer" is visible again. Is there any solution to block the required apps for a longer time ?

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And for using 4.5 : I've installed it on the other laptop, installation was successful ( and drivers as well), but when I connect the Fire and open 4.5 Toolbox I get the message:

"Button function error. File batbox.exe is missing

Batbox is not recognized as internal or external command, operable program, or batched file"

Thanks !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yes, there is another way and I'm working on implementing it into V5. 0. If you would like to use it please let me know. In addition, the reason why you are receiving the error that the file batbox.exe is missing is possibly because I believe your antivirus has quarantined the file. This is an issue because the Toolbox relies heavily on this file for its UI (its mainly the buttons) and it often gets marked as a virus because it Injects code into cmd to display the buttons (which causes your antivirus to react by quarantining the file) . Try whitelisting batbox.exe or disable your AV while the Toolbox is open. Good luck friend! :) :good:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
OK, there is a bypass for this. I will do the best I can to assist. I will be at my pc in a few minutes so I can assist the best I can. Please stand by.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok, so when it comes to driver detection the Toolbox checks to see if the following folders are found:

64 Bit PCs:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Amazon.com\Fire_Devices

32 Bit PCs:

C:\Program Files\Amazon.com\Fire_Devices

If a directory is missing... the Toolbox will assume that no drivers are installed and will prompt you to install them. Please note that when you install the Amazon drivers please DO NOT change the default driver install path. If the path is not found you can create the folders and this will trick the Toolbox into thinking the drivers are installed. Now, if the directory for your PC is found and the Toolbox is not reading it correctly then something else is happening. If this is the case please download the zip below and please follow the instructions found in the read me file (.txt). Thanks and good luck! :)

P.S: Driver Detection will be improved in a future release. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ok, so I've managed to remove the passcode for my tablet using mtk-su is this a feature you would like to see in the Toolbox? or would you rather have it not be included?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
If it can be used to defeat the lock screen in order to gain unauthorized access to personal content then I would prefer it not be made easy by inclusion in the toolbox. On the other hand, if the method simply suppresses the need to use a passcode on the lockscreen (as as possible and most Android builds) then I think it would be a welcome addition.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chonzy:
First of all, thank you so much for your work!

I'm also having the same problem, the apps keep reapearing whenever I leave the tablet charging for the night.

I'd love to know if there's another way or a more permanent solution...

thanks again!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I was thinking the same thing. The more I thought about it, the more I realized how it could be exploited to gain access to any device that supported mtk-su. I realized this feature could get out of hand real fast. I don't want to be the reason why password bypass can be used by anyone to remove a device's password without consent. It's just not my thing.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Thank you for your kind words chonzy!

With the apps reappearing I'm thinking about utilizing temp root to completely remove the packages. Of course this leads to apps not being able to be restored without first backing up, or performing a factory reset. I do however suspect that a single package or two loaded by Amazon is the reason for the apps restoring. But the question is what package(s) is doing this? This I don't know and unfortunately I think the best course of action is to use mtk-su to remove the apps completely. Perhaps I'll give the user the choice to remove via adb commands (what we've been doing), or to use mtk-su. Again, I'm not sure. Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions on this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Just noticed that Silk browser has voice-to-text input if using Bing set as default search engine but NOT Google.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] exlr8:
Tried to sideload AfT from apkmirror but install failed saying it was a downgraded version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I also tried the same unsuccessfully on my HD 10 (2019) F/W v7.3.1.2. I didn't reset it first though. I also tried disabling Application Compatibility Enforcer and Fire Application Compatibility Enforcer SDK. That seemed to work at first, but after a couple minutes I got the same incompatibility screen. :( Oh well.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
It seem this incompatibility situation applies to Fire tablets with ADB "mods" (via FTB) but NOT to "stock" Fire tablets with only basic sideloaded GPS .

Why?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That's why I started looking through all the many unknown system apps on the tablet. I don't know how they managed to make an app I didn't update incompatible with an OS I didn't update. OS updates are blocked and the app has been working fine until recently. I'm thinking that another app is shutting Shop Amazon down because of the old firmware and I started looking for it. It's not Application Compatibility Enforcer apparently. That seemed like the place to start looking.

Edit: It might have something to do with the default setting in Amazon Appstore to automatically update apps from there, but that doesn't look like it includes Shop Amazon. Shop Amazon seems to be a system app. I had never noticed that setting in Amazon's appstore before and I shut it off now.

BTW, does anyone know which updates are turned off by disabling Automatic Updates via Toolbox or ADB? (Not OTA Updates - we KNOW what that is for!)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
An additional question or two.

How did AfT get installed as a GPS app in the first place? I certainly didn't intentionally do it! Amazon/Google?

How does Amazon manage to diable Kindle e-book purchases from "Amazon Kindle" installed from GPS?

Seems be something deeper in FireOS than just app compatibility checking.

Thanks, Amazon ... again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I think that Google just recognizes the Shop Amazon app as Amazon for Tablets. I never installed it either.

I was reading that Kindle is being separated from Fire tablets so it will be it's own separate entity. I'm not really sure because I have never used Kindle. "Shrinkflation" and all that. Thanks Amazon! :p
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Hi @blaacksheep. As you know, I kludgingly installed the 5 or 6 Play Store apks, One Button Navigation, Launcher Hijack, Automate, Nova 6.x, etc. and I have a workable HD 8 Plus Android tablet, except for the Lockscreen ads, and the Fire Launcher is always annoyingly in the background and I have to tap the yellow One Button to switch to Nova. PITA.

I tried your suggestion to use @Datastream33 method to remove lockscreen ads, but the following aren't available in the Privileges section of Automate V1.34.1:

access photos, media, and files on your device,

modify system settings, and

modify private settings.

But I just installed FTB 28.9. Will it help with any of these issues? If not, is there a solution to the Automate problem?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You have to follow the instructions in that post and grant the privileges through ADB manually as described, then it works.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Support for the lock screen ad remover flow was removed in FTB V10.0 in favor of the disable/hide method. However if you download V9.2 (last version that supported the Automate method) it should setup everything for you. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Oh, sorry. I didn't notice that.

[EDIT]. Just watched the video, which I didn't before because it was labeled "Private." Wow. Did @Datastream33 do that? It's brilliant, but I don't think it's worth all that user work to disable a silly lockscreen ad. I suppose, however, that your reply means that V28.9 will not hide Fire Launcher, at least, and make One Button superfluous, right?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Alternatively, you can disable the lockscreen completely and be rid of them. ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] xSunshin3x:
good evening,

im currently on FireOS Version: 7.3.2.1 on my Fire HD 10 and the start post of FTB mentions some issues with 7.3.2.2+

Do these issues still persist on the most recent FTB 28.9?

Should i stick with my current firmware?

edit// just saw your crosspost @blaacksheep after posting mine. I guess your post from 06-08-22 still reflects the recent situation about 7.3.2.2?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] i.REN:
The result when sideloading with FTB.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Because your tablet is on a firmware below 7.3.2.2, everything in the Toolbox will work. I'd highly recommend disabling OTA Updates/Automatic updates if you haven't already, and remain on your current firmware. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
FTB 28.9 has the latest working exploits for Fire tablets so that's the one to use. DON'T allow your system to update. You have the last version of FireOS that fully works with Toolbox. Make sure you disable OTA updates. The other problems we've been seeing are more things that Amazon is doing to make the lives of people who dare to modify their Fire tablets as miserable as possible. Don't give in. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, we're still exploring that problem. It was stated earlier that Shop Amazon works upon a reset of the tablet. If you do that, disable automatic updates of both Google's PlayStore, and Amazon's appstore too. (Along with OTA and Automatic updates in Toolbox.) :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hey @Datastream33 ,

What does disabling Automatic Updates in Toolbox stop/prevent from updating?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Try enabling the "Downgrade" install flag in the Sideload Apps tool. If that doesn't work you can try uninstalling the updates to the Amazon app by running this command in an ADB Shell:

adb shell cmd package uninstall-system-updates

The above command will take some time, as it reverts all system packages back to the default versions. I can't guarentee this will work, but I suppose it's worth a shot. After running the command, try sideloading the apk again. However, it could also be possible that the app will not install due to the Play Store versions missing Amazon system libraries. Best of luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] i.REN:
I guess I can reset again. I just did one in the last two days. Didn't know about turning off Appstore auto updates though.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's a suggestion. It might help. I don't know for sure though.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] i.REN:
I did.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I believe it stops the system from auto-installing OTAs automatically. It makes it so the user has to confirm the update manually before it installs.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ah, sorry... the messagebox was overlapping the install flags in the screenshot. My bad.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
That's also an option... :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hmm. Sort of a semi-useless function, but I guess it serves a purpose. Thanks Datastream33.:)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
It should also disable "Enable Automatic Updates" in the Amazon Appstore through adb keyinputs. But, if i remember correctly... it's kind of hit or miss. Needs a little work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] i.REN:
No luck. Guess I'll just wait and use the app store on my phone's small screen in the meantime. Thanks both of you for helping.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hey guys, came across this post. It explains what the whole 5 seconds delay is about. Pretty interesting!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Shouldn't I uninstall FTB V28.9 first?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
No need to uninstall 28.9, they will work in harmony. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jjkjustin:
Sorry, I don't think I understand that post. My issue is that my Home button doesn't do anything when pressed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

Open an ADB Shell, and execute the following command:

settings delete secure sysui_nav_bar

That should fix the home button

.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] alexo2035:
Hi, I did a search, could not find mention to this, I need Skype in my new Fire HD10 2021 unbloated just days ago with Toolbox 28.9 . Made a search "what version Skype for Fire...etc", and first result sent me to a Microsoft site telling that "Skype is now included on all Amazon Tablets as default ...". So I wondered if the debloat execute ( I did the Recommended option, Auto mode) killed it, allthough I dont remember seeing it , I spent only a minute after first boot and did the Toolbox thing.

I tried Skype and Skype Insider, both versions installed , booted , asked for login which I did correctly and then they stall and disappear completely, although they remain active as a process and they refuse to been stopped, have to kill them. Uninstalled both .

If it is certain Skype comes preinstalled how would I go about enabling it in Toolbox? thanks for any help!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Thanks again @blaacksheep. I'm sorry to bother, but I installed V9.2 (very cool) ran the Launcher subtool to install Nova V6.x and uninstall Fire Launcher (FL), but FL is still running in the background and One Button, which is still installed, is the only way I can access Nova. What did I get wrong. Also, can I use V9.2 to prevent updates?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
I installed Skype (Kindle Tablet edition v8.86.0.407) from Amazon AppStore on my Fire 10HD (2021) . Ported by Skype, vetted by Amazon. Don't recall it being installed by default. One of the few apps I installed from Appstore because it is specific to Fire tablets and supported by Amazon.

Skype installed from GPS may part of a growing list of GPS apps "misbehaving" on recent FireOS upgrades.

** Edit ** Skype specs on GPS lists v.8.86.0.407 as current, so it IS more likely to do with GPS "compatibility" with FireOS.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Trebrick:
Real quick.. anyone know if symlinking is possible? HD10 21
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] alexo2035:
Thanks for that quick response! Right, so I should enable A Store , install Skipe, only thing is I couldnt easely find individual "enabling" of services in TBox. Must dig in. I think trying to stay away from Amazon and GServices completely is a road that leads to a dead end somehow, Brave browser asked me for GServices to Sync with rest of my devices for instance.

Thanks Jumbo100.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Can always restore diabled Amazon services with the appropriate ADB command ... afrer all, FTB is basically a bundle of ADB "tweaks" which are generally reversible.

As with any powerful set of tools (and FTB is REALLY powerful) , just because you HAVE them doesn't mean you have to USE them all.

Remember the cautionary tale of the "Sorcerer's Apprentice" ... @Datastream33 is the " Master Wizard " and FTB is the "magical book of spells" !

Turn off auto-updates for both AppStore and Play Store apps to minimize any update "surprises".
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] alexo2035:
Indeed! FTB is magical, thanks for the tip on auto-update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Because you are running v7.3.2.3 firmware, it is not possible (currently) to completely disable Fire launcher. Datastream33 told you to use FTB v9.2 so that you could use the Lockscreen Ad Removal tool included in that version instead of needing to manually enter the ADB commands to give the appropriate permissions to Automate. That's the ONLY reason to use that version of Toolbox. The other things you want to do are best handled in the current version of Toolbox because things have changed since FTB v9.2. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] alexo2035:
Things started to get complicated, to download Skype from Amazon although I am logged in, my new FIRE HD10 2021 refuses to register, gets the perpetual circle going round, I found strange my devices page, where I can see my Fire 8 2017 doesnt even have an option to "add device". I am lost, about to give up, even If I really need this app for work...looks like only enabling Appstore in FTB isnt enough to allow me access.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi. I see you're having some trouble getting Skype to install. I wasn't following along with what exactly you've tried so far. If you are just having trouble registering with Amazon to use their appstore, have you also (re)enabled Shop Amazon? That may be all you need to logon to Amazon in order to make the appstore recognize you. You can enable it in Toolbox > Manage Amazon Apps > Manual tab > Simple (recommended) > Restore Apps tab. If it's listed, re-enable Shop Amazon, Restore Selected, then use it to log on to Amazon once. That should fix the problem. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] alexo2035:
Thanks mate, yes, I thought that Shop might be, thanks for explaining where to find it, cup of tea, try again, patience is good
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] CommieColin:
This might already be on yer radar, but I've noticed Toolbox v28.9 is downloading ConSync7.apk but the installer is searching for a file called ConSync9.apk, resulting in an error when trying to install the Contacts Sync portion of Google Services.

Not sure if the downloaded apk is incorrect or if the Toolbox is just pointing towards a different file name by mistake, but figured I'd throw it out there. Otherwise, it's working very well!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm sure it's just an oversight or a mistake in the version required for your version of the tablet. If you could elaborate on your version of the Fire tablet including year for @Datastream33 so he can fix the issue when he gets time, it would help out. In the meantime, you could just sideload the .apk file Toolbox downloaded and install it, or just get it from Google Play assuming Google Services installed correctly. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] alexo2035:
With Amazon Store and Shop Amazon activated, still had no way to register Fire 10 , finally a deinstalled everything Amazon, installed Google Services, went to Play Store, and downloaded Skype from there. Not a problem, working perfectly well, hope this helps anybody with similar problem. Cheers to everybody helping, nothing of this I could have done without XDA, FTB and you guys.

As Jumbo100 said, @Datastream33 is the " Master Wizard " and FTB is the "magical book of spells"
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] CommieColin:
@blaacksheep I appreciate the response! This is on my 2020 HD 8+ tablet and Toolbox v28.9 - not a huge deal at all, as I've already sideloaded the apk downloaded by the Toolbox without issue. It seems like a simple file name mismatch to me, so I figured I'd give you guys a heads up.

As always, truly appreciate the work you and @Datastream33 put into this.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That's all @Datastream33 's work. I only help out where I'm able.;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Glad you got it working the way you want. The way you had to do it was less than optimal, but at least you found a way! (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
The tangled, curious world of Amazon, Google and Fire Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
Hi All,

As I've stated previously, we all owe the developer of the ftb a great deal of gratitude for the time and effort that has been put into the development of this project. I feel bad that it seems that amazon is trying their best to further restrict how the ftb is able to function. Of course this is just my opinion, but I feel like as time goes on it's just going to get even worse.

David
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Thanks @blaacksheep. I thought that was the case. I'll stay tuned.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lewmur:
While I consider it our right to do everything in our power to disable Amazon bloat, I don't consider it wrong for them to do everything in their power to make it difficult. Afterall, every tablet maker includes bloat, but Amazon tablets are probably the best "bang-for-the-buck" on the market simply because they sell them as "marketing tools". Without that income, they couldn't sell them at the price they do. So, of course, it is going to get worse as time goes by. In fact, IMO, it is already at the point that I'd buy an older version rather than the latest.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
⁰

As long as we can maintain a "reliable" access to Google Play Services on Fire tablets, it will be "tolerable". But it's only going to get harder ... Much harder!

@Datastream33 must feel like Sisyphus , at times.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Reminder Note: GPS app updates

Can turn OFF Auto-updates on all GPS installed apps by DEFAULT.

Open your Google Play Account / Settings / Network Preferences / Auto-update apps / set "Don't auto-update apps".

While you're in Settings , check About / Play Protect certification/ see "Device is not certified".

Thanks, Amazon ... again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
A recent article from androidpolice.com using “old-fashioned” brute force manual procedures to upgrade Fire tablets … it’s almost primitive :

How to install the Google Play Store on every Amazon Fire tablet - Updated for the 12th Gen Fire 7 (2022.08.11)

How to install the Google Play Store on every Amazon Fire tablet

Get the apps you want on your brand-new device

www.androidpolice.com

FTB is so much more comprehensive, more elegant and so much easier to manage in comparison … Why go through the “manual” hassle !?

@Datastream33 needs a better PR agent !