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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It looks like you've run the command to revert the home button back to it's original function. Try rerunning the Custom Launcher tool in Toolbox to set it back to the custom homekey. Just run it like it hasn't been run yet and choose your launcher again. That should fix things up. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can use Toolbox to find out. Just launch it and then click on your tablet displayed in the lower-left. It will bring up an information page that lists your OS version on the right.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gomus:
If this has been addressed, I apologize, but I did a cursory search with no results. I've noticed that two of my devices - Fire HD 8 Plus 12th gen (8.3.1.3) and a Fire 7 12th gen (8.3.1.4) - both wil not run Youtube TV. Youtube is fine but the Youtube TV fails with the dreaded "Youtube TV won't run without Google Play services, which are missing from your device."

Google Play and all of the other apps work just fine. So far, I've only noticed Youtube TV suffering from this. My 10th gen tablets are all running different versions of 7.3.X.X and Youtube TV works fine on those. It appears that Amazon OS8 is the culprit. I'll try running that in a browser but figured I'd toss this out in hopes there was a fix for it.

Thanks all for all that you do.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Ongoing incompatibility issues with YouTube TV and FireOS 8 on 12th Gen (2022) Fire tablets. No reported solution yet.

Only immediate workaround is accessing YouTube TV from a web browser

@ https://tv.youtube.com/welcome/.

Possible solution would be for a clever dev to code a PWA (Progressive Web App) ie "hybrid app" for YtTV .

A similar situation for YouTube Kids was partially resolved by installing a specific older YtK version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] taiber2000:
I have a bit of a problem. After using the tool to install Google play and disable some apps and updates I can't log into the Amazon app store to update Netflix or to log in the prime vide app. Is there a workaround?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] reyemelocin:
oh my god so it's not me doing something wrong?!?! I've seriously spent so much time trying to figure out how I screwed up and then I see this.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You may have disabled needed apps when you ran Toolbox. First off, you need Shop Amazon enabled to sign in to Amazon and use their services. Signing in will allow access to Amazon Prime Video and is probably needed for Netflix to work. If you have a version of FireOS prior to 7.3.2.2, you'll need to then update the Shop Amazon app because it will redirect you to their website in your browser. That update is available in the 3rd link in my signature along with several other apps so you don't need to do an OTA update and get a newer (more restricted) firmware update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] geek4hire625:
Just ran the tool on a fire hd 8 (2018) thats what the tool says it is anyway. we bought it in 2017. I tried to run the tool to set a custom launcher and it SAYS it was successful but it does not seem to have done the job. The launcher I installed before but the home button does not bring me to it and the fire launcher still runs. I had an update to fire os 7.3.2.7 yesterday. Am I basically just hosed trying to get this thing to be de-fired?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Rickt1962:
I don't know if this helps but My Fire HD10 version 11 (2021) with OS 7.3.2.4 is not registered to Amazon installed Google Play Store and apps but Netflix that came with it the Tablet didnt work but installing Netflix using Toolbox hybrid Netflix works great ! also using Rethink blocking updates
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bluefender:
got toolbox working on win7, did all the business, i sideloaded a file manager and used show hidden apps etc, i was wondering if on my hd10 7th gen, i could find the wallpaper draw and replace wallpapers or add some ? would it work, cannot remeber the name of the wallpapers draw or where it is hidden in system, i would be great if toolbox cold change them, like it can sideload apks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
What launcher are you using? If you use Nova Launcher, you can just long-press an unused area of your homescreen and choose "Wallpaper" at the bottom. The built in app allows you to choose any file on your tablet. I'm sure there are similar options in the other launchers, too.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bluefender:
original amazon launcher frontend for the moment, nova is a bit bloated fo me, prefer minimalist launcher, been looking at a few..pondring at the moment.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] geek4hire625:
I just want to know how to get another launcher to work. I will use just about anything at this point.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I think it was Niagara Launcher that was the most lightweight but I'm not sure what wallpaper options it has.

You can use Toolbox to change your wallpaper using the Lockscreen Management tool. That has an option to change your wallpaper and your lockscreen wallpaper. You might also be able to do it using the built in system app, but you may need to re-enable Photo Importer and/or Prime Photos for it to work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Since I think you said you were on v7.3.2.7, you'll need to use the Custom Navbar option to change your launcher. That will install Automate in order to apply the needed changes. You must follow ALL of the instructions it gives relating to permissions and boxes to check when it installs. Otherwise it won't work. Also I suggest you switch to Dark Mode because of the invisible home button problem on light screens. (Play store, Firefox browser, etc.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] geek4hire625:
Is that under custom launcher in the toolbox?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes. It should be selected by default considering your OS version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] geek4hire625:
I will pull it up here in a few minutes and check it out.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] taiber2000:
Yes it did do The trick. Now I can use prime video. Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Latest major change coming to personal VPNs ... competition?

NordVPN and Surfshark are merging, continuing VPN consolidation trend

Details of the transaction were not disclosed but the companies will continue to operate autonomously, according to a joint press release.

www.cnet.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] geek4hire625:
@Blacksheep I was able to set up the custom nav option and automate and the launcher seems to be working. Will probably be back here a lot as I tweak stuff.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
To keep display wallpaper management simple and consistent across all my Android devices, I've resotred to using 3rd-party wallpaper utilities.

I'm rather partial to the "stock" backgrounds of some of the device manufacturers and the classic Google backgrounds ... using WalP and Wallpapers by Google apps the moment but there are so many others.

Recent Android Authority curated list:

10 best wallpaper apps for Android

Looking for an awesome new wallpaper? These background and wallpaper apps that should help you find what you're looking for.

www.androidauthority.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Maleko48:
Thank you for posting this bit of information as I thought I was going crazy the past 2 days that only 1 of my 3 Fire Tablets was acting unexpectedly, connecting to my (locked down, internal DNS only that blocks and re-directs all other DNS requests) pfSense firewall/router with pfBlockerNG and internal DNS enabled via Unbound but complaining to me that it had no internet.

I have both AdGuard Premium and a separate 3rd party VPN app installed that I often flip back and forth between. I had narrowed it down somewhat to my DNS blocking/redirect rules on my pfSense but it was still bugging me that only 1 of our 3 tablets was acting differently from the other 2 despite them all being the same generation and update of tablet and I wasn't about to open up our network permanently to address a quirk on a budget android tablet. After uninstalling AdGuard and the VPN app and testing various network connections/setups I thought to take another look through the Amazon Toolbox settings and sure enough the DNS resolver dropdown being put back to the ISP default took care of it for me as you mentioned.

As far as I can tell, AdGuard Premium offers mostly the same functionality as DNS66 aside from the Amazon apps specific bypasses and blocklists. I may still check it out anyways.

The original links that got me thinking and heading in the right direction, aside from noticing the annoying Google DNS address injection I could not figure a way to stop were:

Android devices wont resolve local server names

Here is a bullet point version of my issue: New software for us. Client side software is available on Windows or Android (Server side run on our SQL server) The surface tablet, and all android devices are connected to the same SSID, they are all set to DHCP, they are all recieving an IP...

community.spiceworks.com

Why is Android refusing to resolve DNS records pointing to internal IP addresses?

I have a very strange behavior on an Android device (Nexus 7) when trying to access local network applications. Instead of getting the actual IP of the machine on LAN, the Android device gets the p...

android.stackexchange.com

https://xdaforums.com/t/kindle-fire-hd-10-9th-gen-is-adding-a-dns-server-on-its-own.4008907/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Glad to be of help. I was furiously trying different settings to fix my connectivity before I figured it out. It all happened when I was trying out RethinkDNS. I knew some setting was conflicting with my DNS resolution. I'm glad I saved you even more difficulty. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
GPS , NFC coming to next generation of Fire HD10 ?

Preliminary analysis of recent FCC filing for a new 10.1" Amazon tablet (speculated as new Fire HD10) suggests that GPS and NFC may be enabled. Also no upgrade to WiFi 6:

2023 Version Fire HD 10 Leaks With NFC And GPS

Amazon's new 10-inch tablet for 2023, Fire HD 10 leaks with specs NFC, GPS, wireless charging, dual-band Wi-Fi 5, thicker, longer, wider.

tabletmonkeys.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] geek4hire625:
got the launcher working! however, I noticed there's no weather app on fires... I cannot get my regular weather app to work. Are there any recommended weather apps for fire?

EDIT (nvm) cant figure out how to delete the post. I got it working.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI Solution and general policy/procedures for deleting XDA posts: 🙂

https://xdaforums.com/t/how-should-...ote-and-want-to-delete.4397047/#post-86359011
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I've been using Weawow from the Play store. It's very customizable and has a selection of homescreen widgets that include the clock:

(That's my widget near the top.)

Check it out, and if you like it don't forget to donate to the developers. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] darbNator:
Anyone been noticing a weird bug where the wifi becomes slow or stops working and when you turn wifi off it reboots the tablet?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
A 10.1" inch Linux tablet @ Fire HD10 price points !?

Linux Tablet PineTab2 Estimated To Launch In April From $159

Linux Tablet PineTab2 Estimated To Launch In April 2023 From $159, With Up To 8GB RAM, 128GB Storage, Backlit Keyboard, Wi-Fi 5, BT 5.2.

tabletmonkeys.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That sounds real interesting. It's still projected to be until next year before it comes out, though. :confused: Hopefully I'll still be able to afford stuff then. ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
From the Pine64 blog yesterday ... ready this Spring

PineTab2

PineTab will be available in two SKUs: 4GB RAM / 64GB eMMC & 8GB RAM / 128 eMMC

Pricing: 4GB/64GB version USD $159 & 8GB/128GB version $209

First impression of the PineTab2 – most refined Linux-capable hardware from PINE64; very high quality all around and a major step-up from the original

PineTab2’s keyboard impressions – very good keyboard, sturdy and hefty stand and solid key backlight

PineTab2 software more mature than many of you expect – thanks to the work on Quartz64 and SOQuartz by the community; only a few bits missing

FOSDEM demo ran DanctNix Arch + KDE Plasma Desktop and was well received

Launch window – sometime in April, but no promises

February update: things are taking shape

Let me start by apologizing to everyone for skipping yet another monthly community update. This has largely been my fault as I was rather busy in January and following FOSDEM at the start of February I found myself occupied with things related to the EU store.

www.pine64.org
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bluefender:
that would be a nice gadget, what about the graphics card.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Apparently it's a single-board design machine, so nothing fancy. From further into the blog post:

"I’d describe interacting with the desktop environment as a good experience and on par with the Pinebook Pro or a higher-end Single Board Computers. It is certainly good enough for terminal tasks or running an office suite for work, browsing the web, watching local or online videos, playing FOSS or retro-games and even light photo editing in GIMP. For practical reasons we ran the OS from a SD card at FOSDEM, which resulted in slow(ish) opening of applications and it certainly also had a negative impact on application’s performance, in particular if said application requires frequently loading assets from or caching to storage. From my experience with the PinePhone (Pro) and Pinebook Pro, I expect that the performance will be greatly increased by running the OS from inbuilt flash. "
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ForForkSake:
Warning to those who have SD card formatted as internal storage (instead of portable storage)

Move playstore and its dependencies back to internal storage, else you lose it should your SD card become corrupt. Also worthwhile making sure your default launcher is also on Internal

You can see which apps are on the SD card by going to

Settings > Storage > SD Card and selecting “Apps.”

Select the following apps one by one

play store

play services

Google account manager

Google services framework

Select “Change,” and select “Internal Storage.”

WARNING : The above is confirmed correct for FireOS 8.3.1.3

However, older versions may not be able to differentiate your SD card from internal storage, once you go down the adoptable route.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I just went through this the other day because my 512GB SD card set as adoptable storage was suddenly corrupted. I pulled it and ran a couple utilities on my Linux computer but was not able to repair it. I ended up formatting and testing it again. It passed, so I threw it back in and adopted it again. It took me most of a day to refill the data and reload the software.

Having read the above post, I thought "Great Idea"! The problem is that the card is displayed as just a bigger built in storage space when adopted, and not as a separate drive. It's treated this way too. There is no differentiation between the SD card and internal storage once adopted so there is no way to move the data between card and internal storage as they're both treated as the same place. :(

I just thought I'd mention this before someone tries and fails at this. I think this is only possible in "portable storage" mode of the SD card.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ForForkSake:
On FireOS 8.3.1.3, formatted as adoptable, the option is certainly there

Settings > Storage > you get internal storage or SD Card.. As It gives the option to format as portable ( from adoptable)

I'll demonstrate hopefully.. Whilst blocking my full name with an Emoji... Why it has it there I'll never know
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ForForkSake:
The exact headache I had. One day everything disappeared, my initial worry that it some how updated was proven false obviously, tried the SD In Linux and not recognised.. Tried on my phone.. Nothing.. Only option given on the amazon tablet was to format again.

So I chose internal storage again.. This time making sure my important apps are on internal hehe

(perhaps if would have shown on gparted, however android was the safest route, but I did lose all the apps that we had spent ages setting up. Doh!)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I should have mentioned that it was FireOS v7.3.1.2 on my tablet. I thought about FireOS v8.x.x.x later. They have been changing how Android deals with storage between Android 9 and later. (FiteOS 7 being based on Android 9).(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ForForkSake:
Good to see some progress, I guess. 🤣

Now this 12th gen appears to be stable - I am going to operate on my 2019 9th gen 7, xyz's hardware method
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Nice guide. I've read it looking for exploits to my HD10 (2019) Maverick. There's a separate thread for that one which includes downgrading it to v7.3.1.0 and rooting it. I want to keep it the way it is for now because it works quite well on 7.3.1.2, and my other tablet is still in the "to do" pile after getting wet 6 months ago. :oops: I think I'll tackle that problem first. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
"Old habits die hard"

For decades on all my computing devices, I've always tried to separate OS/apps from data using physical "drives" , or at least different drive partitions.

Would this "best practice" still apply to modern Fire tablets ... or am I just getting old? ☹️
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I've done the same since the days of M$DOS. Back when an OS would fit on 3 - 1.44MB floppies! Even Windows 3.1 would only take up 6 or 7 floppies. I would at least make a separate "data" partition so I could reformat and reinstall my OS without messing around with my files.

I suppose it just depends on your intended use case whether you do that or not. When I set up a Fire tablet for a friend who isn't so skilled with all the partitions, I tried to set it up for simplicity and used adoptable storage so there wouldn't be an extra 'drive' with his data on it. Android makes it difficult to manage such a system because it defaults to the internal storage and every app needs to be pointed to the other storage space. Also, there's no easy way to make your download folder in Firefox be your SD card.

I usually choose to do things the hard way and use 'portable storage' for my SD card but I didn't do that with my HD10. I have copies of most of my data in 3 or 4 different computers so if a disaster occurs I can still recover from it.

TLDR - If you are ok with the extra effort it will take to manage the separate storage, then I believe it's better to keep your data separate from your OS so you can reset the tablet/phone without losing it. If you don't want to fight with Android on where to keep your data then it's easier to just 'adopt' an SD card and make 1 big 'drive'.

(my 2¢) :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
👍

BTW you seem to technologically "aging well/gracefully" ... MS/DOS indeed.

Me, not so much . I still think of C+/Python as passing grades/serpents.

Does anybody remember Assembly Language and EBCDIC?

👴 (and grumpy-ish)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Haha! I'd call it kicking and screaming at the OS's. 😆

I never learned C+ (or C, C++, or C#) or python. All I ever learned was BASIC and I did some assembly on 6800 and Z80 processors in electronics when we briefly covered computers, and some batch file scripting on DOS/Windows.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ForForkSake:
Nah you're right. My personal devices are usually separate storage .

Apart from fire devices & my pixel 6a which doesn't have microsd, I do use a fast portable ssd instead.

think marshmallow I once tried adoptable on a device and it always lead to problems. Devices have enough onboard storage these days.

The only reason I use it on the fire tablet, is because my daughter makes full use of our play pass subscription.

When set as adoptable, yes you can move the data to microsd, but not the app itself, with ease anyway.

SD card formatted as internal storage is the latest wording on fireOS and It installs everything to SD automatically, never runs out of space. Worth it's weight gold.

I only had to intervene once, when the data disappeared. Learnt my lesson, moved the necessities to actual internal storage, backed up the apks to push back and save a mission.

But now no child at my legs asking why its not letting her install apps. Winner
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ForForkSake:
Didnt realise 7 could achieve root. Interesting. Wonder if that applies to any of the fw for hd7

I've downgraded to 6, but was going to see what the custom rom situation was like and/or compile something. Thanks for the heads up.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, do a search through the Amazon devices and try searching using your tablet's code name (Maverick, Mustang, Karnak, etc.). Lot's of the earlier tablets can be rooted. I was surprised to see my HD10 (2019) was capable. I just haven't done it yet because it's my only tablet ATM and it works very nicely with just Toolbox.:)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lewmur:
Assembly??? My first "programs" were written in Z80 machine code. The keypad on my first computer was a 20 key hex pad. The extra 4 keys were "function" keys. Assembly was consider a "higher language". And I had an IBM typewriter I/O device that was EBCDIC. Of course all IBM keyboards at the time were EBCDIC.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
"Growing old, together" 🙃

At least you didn't have to endure the agony of learning/debugging machine code syntax using 80-column IBM puchcard I/O ... from the "Dark Ages" of antiquity. A lot of trees were sacrificed for my early "computer" education!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] unboostedzc:
+1 to this. Have a fresh 2016 HD8 tablet on 5.6.0.1, just downloaded 5.2 and get Access Denied in the Toolbox box and asks to choose a theme every time. As soon as I hit apply, everything closes.

EDIT: Same issue with 5.1, 5.0 and now 4.5.

EDIT #2: Able to get 4.3 to open.

Block OTA Updates: I proceeded to try to block OTA updates. The tablet restarted and appears to have completed both; however, when I go to Device Options and System Update, the update screen shows I'm on 5.6.0.1 and that 5.6.1.0 is ready to install when the tablet is not being used with enough battery. When I did this to my previous 2016 HD8 tablets, it wouldn't even let me in to the System Update screen. Previously, it would instantly close the System Update screen and go back to the main homescreen whenever I would check. Is this normal now?

Remove Lockscreen Ads: Again it appears to have completed successfully. I opened Automate as well as going to the root of the SD card and running the file there in Automate. I'm scrubbing through the thread now but did I miss something I have to do on top of this?

Install Google Services: Successful

Youtube Vanced/Smart TV: Successful

See Avast screenshot attached.