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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] EricBlade:
It was on device that was complaining about the missing shared library, not the Toolbox. Toolbox worked despite the debug APK failing to install, but it would only work if i didn't dismiss the warning about the debugger not installing.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I forgot about Visual C++ when I gave you those files to update. Glad you got it going. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lmid:
Currently running Kindle fire version 5.7.10. No updates are available past this that I know of.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] moccor:
Been a while since I asked about this, and my old tablet is still useless due to this problem. Anyone know of a way to edit the date on my Fire HD 8 10th gen? My tablet won't ever connect to the internet due to having a very wrong date (December 2021). It's on build 7.3.1.3 and I assume if I update to a newer build, it could help but if the tablet would be as slow as stock due to restrictions then it would be nearly as good as garbage
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Have you tried enabling Device Setup in Manage Amazon Apps > Manual tab > Simple (Recommended)? It's one of the items that used to get disabled using the standard debloat script, but has since been removed from that list because it disables the ability to change the time.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] EricBlade:
I wasn't the guy from page 250 that you gave other files to, anyway, I think that whatever the problem was, it was fixed with that last software update... and it looks like that's probably the last one a device this old will ever see so.. yay :-D

On behalf of myself and everyone else in this super super long thread, thank you for the software and your time spent supporting it!

Is there some way to access the Launcher Hijack menu after it's already installed, without having to uninstall it and reinstall it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI

Fire OS 8.3.2.2 released simultaneously for OTA Update and manual download, for Gen12/Gen13 Fire tablets:

FireOS 8.3.2.2 - Amazon Customer Service
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lmid:
I tried all the suggested solutions and currently I am still having trouble getting the ADB Interface to update. I think the .dll problem are solved. Each of the other suggestions for updating the ADB interface does not provide a downloadable update. Can someone provide a link for the install or update file. Windows can't find it by searching for the update. I can't get toolbox to see my kindle. See attached file.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FireOS 5.7.1.0 is the latest f/w for your device available from Amazon. Note that Kindle designation was dropped from Fire tablet nomenclature after Kindle Fire HDX (3rd Gen)

From the Windows Device Manager error message, the ADB/USB driver is missing or corrupted on your Windows 7 setup.

Suggest uninstalling/reinstalling USB for Android driver as discussed earlier. Windows 7 does not install this driver automatically from Windows Update and must be installed manually.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MIKE12OPHONE:
I got FTB working just fine and installed Nova Launcher. The last thing I can't figure out is how to get the home button to take me to Nova, not the default launcher. I've read about launcher hijack but don't know the implications on my OS version (8.3.2.1). What's the best practice here to get Nova as defaultish?

Spent hours searching this thread so apologies if this has been answered.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] y2kbugleung:
Hello there.

I have got this on Ubuntu 23.10.

How should I fix this?

Thanks.

Just read several latest replies.

I host AdGuard. rentry.co is not blocked.

I can access rentry.co.

I have met problem when installing Pillow during initialization.

I have fixed it by installing it manually.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jlyon1515:
I have used this tool for many, many years now across several Fire tablets. Today, after not using my 10" Fire Tablet for probably 6 months, it's asking me to input a PIN. I'm not sure I would have ever set that, but if I did, there are only a few PINs I would use. Anyway, none of those work.

Even more frustrating, the "Reset Password" link button doesn't work either. That's the button that appears when you input the wrong PIN, which is supposed to ask me to input my Amazon.com password (which I absolutely know).

This means I can't even connect the Fire Toolbox because it's saying my device is not authorized, which doesn't make sense because I've used this tool many times and blocked OTA updates, etc.

Any suggestions beside a factory reset?

UPDATE: I just decided to do the factory reset.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lmid:
Understand having to manually install ABD/USB driver. Where can I get the stand alone driver as discusse earllier—non of the suggested links give me the needed driver….
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Try the official Android Developers site here , Method 1 (zip file) :

Get the Google USB Driver | Android Studio | Android Developers

The Google USB Driver is required to perform adb debugging on Windows with Google devices.

developer.android.com

For Windows 7driver install details see here, if required :

Install OEM USB drivers | Android Studio | Android Developers

Discover links to the web sites for several original equipment manufacturers (OEMs), where you can download the appropriate USB driver for your device.

developer.android.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] s2tab:
Is fire 8 plus not officially supported? Removed/disable apps reappear randomly but cannot be launched.

Seems to be a quirk with the fire 8 plus and not my other fire tablets

I just rerun the toolbox whenever I'm near a computer to hide the apps again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Nothing magical about the 8 plus. Sounds like your device is taking occational OTA updates which restores disabled apps at Amazon's discretion. Launch behavior is likely related to a missing dependency.

I gravitate toward simple: drag the unwanted apps to a folder a forget about them. It is unlikely any are consuming significant storage or impacting device performance.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] s2tab:
No OTA updates, I blocked it using the firewall? method

If I check for OTA updates the server is blocked

I haven’t pinpointed exactly when it happens. I believe it happens when I install from google play store or Amazon App Store or when I restart the device
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
2 things come to my mind.

1. Have you disabled Automatic Updates with Toolbox? This is different than OTA Updates in that it just forces updating of the Amazon apps and not a full system update.

2. Have you disabled Googles default behavior of automatically updating any installed apps? This can be done in Play Store. Open Play Store, tap your avatar in the upper-right corner, tap "Settings", tap "Network preferences", tap "Auto-update apps", tap "Don't auto-update apps", and tap "OK".

There is a similar setting in the Amazon App store but I think disabling Automatic Updates does the same thing. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] moccor:
Unfortunately it only lets me select a time zone and then never proceeds further. I tried enabling a bunch of other amazon apps as well as the one you mentioned and that doesn't help either
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Going back to your original query/post (from August last year), I think you still have a basic, unresolved WiFi/internet connection problem. As discussed earlier, time/date are set on Fire tablets from WiFi connection data and (unlike AndroidOS) cannot be adjusted manually or by ADB.

I'm not a networking maven, but there are a myriad of possible solutions (which you have probably tried already).

Try these articles for ideas (and adapt for Fire tablets, as required) :

10 Solutions If WiFi is Connected but No Internet Connection丨Speedefy

WiFi is connected but no Internet is a common network problem that people encounter, and this article tells how to solve these problems.

www.speedefy.com

How to Fix It When There's No Internet Connection

It's common to have Wi-Fi but no internet access. To get back online, use these tips, like resetting your router and checking your password.

www.lifewire.com

FWIW, there is always the rudimentary Fire tablet "Connection Assistant" troubleshooter under Settings.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Reconnect your tablet to your computer and run Toolbox again. Go to Manage Amazon Apps > Simple (Recommended), and re-enable "Device Setup". :)

Edit: If all else fails, do a factory reset and make sure you skip the Wifi setup screen so you don't connect and get an update before you can disable OTA Updates. Then run the newest version of Toolbox. In the newest version, the "Standard Debloat" script has been modified to NOT include Device Setup. I would suggest to either wait on debloating or just run the Standard Debloat script. You can always come back and disable apps later. Then you'll need to update some of the apps that Amazon have made unavailable to early firmware versions. See the 3rd link in my signature for that, or see braveheartleo's post for a much more comprehensive and updated list. These were all pulled from later firmware tablets so we can update our earlier ones. Just sideload/install them over the existing apps and they work fine. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] moccor:
Well I've tried hotspot mode on my phone for providing WiFi, which also results in the same problem so I think it is just a date issue. I did a bunch of Googling and I am not the only one to be affected by it, I feel like anyone with a Amazon tablet that doesn't turn it on for a long time, has this problem and they don't know it. Many people have their issue go unresolved from what I seen. I wanted to save a factory reset as a last resort but I think it is time to do it.

I tried it, as well as enabling every other amazon app and doing a reboot. I think my last resort is a factory reset, which I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work tbh lol. I will give it a try now. I feel like this is just a way for Amazon to force people to update their devices to keep their ads on them
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Also, if you do reset, don't disable Shop Amazon because you'll need it to log into Amazon to make their other services work. I don't know if that's included in the Standard Debloat. I've never used it. I just use Manual > Simple to disable the apps I really don't want. :)

Edit: Shop Amazon is one of the apps that needs to be updated to work, but even the one that comes with a reset works enough to log you in before it fails.(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] moccor:
Reset the device and connecting to WiFi works fine. Here is a funny thing, it won't let me change the date/time, but it knows it is February 2024 (its set to the 6th and it is still the 5th for me). I only disabled Amazon Alexa (shown as green) and Unified Search (also shown as green) as well as the Standard Debloat. Idk how I am the only one experiencing this date/time weirdness lol.

Maybe changing the date/time requires the stock launcher? I would never use a stock launcher over Nova, but I could see most people preferring it 🤔

Edit : fixed it by restoring all disabled apps, changing date/time and then re-disabling all the standard debloat apps. Thanks for the recommendations
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Moral of the story (as always espoused by @blaacksheep ) ... Set up/mod your Fire tablet to your liking and debloat unwanted apps LAST !

To paraphrase Forest Gump's mother ... " (Standard Debloat ) is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get. "

Thanks for the lesson ... painful as it may be ! 🙂

#Edit

Weirdness may not have been caused by disabling Alexa; it's/ she's permanenly disabled by Amazon OOTB in my region.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
moccor said:

Edit : fixed it by restoring all disabled apps, changing date/time and then re-disabling all the standard debloat apps. Thanks for the recommendations

I've never agreed with using unknown debloat scripts no matter how benign they may be. You just don't know what you are disabling. With Toolbox, I like to disable manually only the things I know I won't need at first, finish setting up my tablet and try it out. Then I'll go back and disable other things 1 or 2 at a time to check out the results, knowing that if something stops working it must be something that I just disabled.

Hopefully all is well with your tablet now and you didn't get an unwanted update in the process. I also hope those apps for which I gave you links installed without issue. 😊
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] moccor:
Yeah I think it might have been the Fire Launcher. It makes sense, it would have been the one thing I never tried re-enabling, because I wouldn't expect it and I don't use any other launchers besides Nova for probably over 10 years. Restoring all disabled apps made the Fire Launcher the default app again, date/time was changeable, and then after I had to go through the process of swapping launchers again.

@blaacksheep I made a post without clicking the quote button on yours and idk how to edit it back in. But yes everything went great, I didn't update it at all, thanks to your recommendation of skipping the initial WiFi connection and disabling OTA. Honestly, I think the tablet is faster now than previously. Like as though the newer FTB scripts disabled more or just had better optimizations included. Or maybe its just cuz I used the tablet once in like 2-3 years lol. Either way, I am grateful I didn't need to use a OTA update to fix it cuz I know stock was very sluggish
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You have an early version of FireOS 7 that they released before they started locking the launcher and OTA updates on. If you had let it connect to the internet before you disabled OTA updates, it would have replaced your easily modifiable firmware version with a new one that requires all sorts of workarounds and resource usage to achieve similar results. It's much better that you preserved the old firmware on a tablet with only 2 GB RAM! It's far easier to replace several Amazon apps manually than to use all those extra resources. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] moccor:
Yeah I remember how terribly sluggish stock was. Software like FTB is amazing and ofc so are the devs creating it and the knowledgeable community support
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Benfica815:
Just setting up for the my Fire Max 11 for the first time and having issues with play services. All the Fire Toolbox tools ran just fine and I did all the recommended settings. Even after waiting the recommended 10+ minutes no apps that require play services are working for me. I just keep getting the same error message over and over. Multiple reboots of the tablet.....no change.

Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] schwiftyatl:
The installer is stuck on the Privacy Policy/Terms of Use screen.

Running Linux Mint. Python 3.10
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] beggehorn:
Im having the same issue. Searched the thread but not finding a solution. I'm seeing a brief message that multiple Debugging devices are attached even though only one tablet is connected (?)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
ADB/USB problems with Fire Toolbox are usually easy to fix but can be difficult to troubleshoot/diagnose ... Too many error sources.

"Multiple debugging devices attached" is an ADB error message and may indicate conflicting simultaneous ADB sessions.

ADB server/emulator may already be ruinning in Windows background from previous ADB activity with another device.

Try :

Open Windows TaskManager , Processes > Background processes > select ADB > End Task

You can obviously do this from ADB command line, but this is easier for ADB amateurs like me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Max 11 can be sluggish adsorbing initial Play Services installs. FireOS 8.3.2.x is required for a favorable experience. When things go south it can be tough to recover sans factory reset.

Suggest uninstalling all Google components, power off for a few sec (don't just restart) and retry Toolbox install after device has stabilized. Reboot, keep awake (set long display timeout) and hope incremental Play Service updates are identified and auto-install in a timely manner.

As of this post version 24.02.13 (150400-599553831) is the goal post. Toolbox will likely install an earlier build. Play Services is largely self maintaining after successful initial install once the update cycle/process begins.

If the Play Store is working you can also try updating Play Services from there. Rarely works, but instantly resolves most issues when it does. Good luck 🙂
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
You're OK. Fire Toolbox is OK. Amazon/Google, not so much.

Fire OS 8.3. x.x has had ongoing compatability/stability issues with Google Play Services infrastructure, especially with Fire Max 11 tablets.

Apps requiring Play Services run much better with f/w 8.3.2.0 and later. Most current f/w version is 8.3.2.2.

However, running f/w earlier than 8.3.1.9 makes for much easier FTB mods.

Check out Fire Max 11 posts on the thread for your options before proceeding further.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] beggehorn:
I happened to start Fire Toolbox this morning before connecting the tablet and noticed there was another ADB device connected:

emulator -5562 offline transport_id:7

A little digging online produced some CMD line queries that might reveal the conflicting process but I then noticed someone in a forum mentioning that "Native Instruments" (muisc production software company) used that particular port. I uninstalled NI's NTKDaemon application and the problem went away. Hopefully this helps someone else.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Terul:
Hey, been using fire toolbox on my FireHD 10 2021 for awhile. Previously, I had it with full tweaks on 7.3.2.1 (I think was the version) and more recently on 7.3.2.9.

I have a new fire hd 2023 en route and see it's on 8.x.x.x. I wanted to ask if fire toolbox will have similar / the same restrictions as 7.3.2.9 or if it's even more restricted on the 8.x OS?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
On Gen12/Gen 13 Fire tablets running FireOS 8.3.x , the "modability" using Fire Toolbox depends on the f/w installed.

f/w 8.3.2.2 is latest Amazon release.

FireOS 8.3.x versions prior to f/w 8.3.1.9 are fully amenable to ADB commands and can be molded without restrictions, similar to FireOS 7 prior to f/w 7.3.2.2 .

FrireOS 8.3.1.9 and later, have various "system restricted" Amazon apps that cannot be ADB-disabled and require FTB mod "workaround", similar to FireOS 7.3.2.2 and later.

Of particular concern are the OTA Update apps, Amazon Fire Launcher and some of the native Amazon-branded apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Check out just released FTB V5.0 (Bata) Python port with improved Toolbox Installer .

See details in @Datastream33 release notes posted immediately above.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Wow! That was quick. I thought you'd more likely release this over the weekend.

I hope this addresses most of the issues several people running Arch-based distros had installing Toolbox. I was able to install it on the top ten distros on distrowatch.com. Most of the issues I had could be addressed by the new option of a gear added at the bottom and a dialog to "use virtual environment" or "skip dependency checks". The "skip dependency checks" can be used with the most stubborn distros in conjunction with manual installation of the packages required to get things done.

I hope everyone who uses the penguin Toolbox reports their success or failure here so we know what works and what still needs work.

Cheers, @Datastream33 for getting this out so fast.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI

New F-Droid functionality

Unattended updates for everyone, 1.19 is here | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository

TWIF generated on Thursday, 01 Feb 2024, Week 5F-Droid core 🎉We announced last year that client work is underway to bring it up to the target that future And...

f-droid.org
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dbdude58:
I just got a fire hd plus 8 running the latest fireos. Google stuff is working great.. I'm missing the standard Android gestures, so wondering if I change the setting via toolbox it works on latest fireos? Do I just have to disable the nav bar and standard gestures start working? Or do I need a 3rd party app? Is the nav bar disabled in both portrait and landscape? Does it persist? This is such an amazing tool! Too bad Amazon keeps changing the rules of what can be changed.. but brilliant stuff!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Android "Gesture Navigation" has been around since Android 10, so it was never available on FireOS 7 and Amazon never bothered to implement it on FireOS 8.

However, Nova Launcher has full gesture/swipe navigation features, if you install as the alternative to Amazon Fire Launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dbdude58:
Sadly it looks like I wasted $5 as nova launcher Prime does not appear to provide a "swipe from left side to go back". Nor does it offer the swipe up from the bottom to switch apps.. I'm surprised some developer hasn't built a utility to unlock this? Maybe Amazon made the effort to actually block this? Search continues..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gdenton61:
Hello,

What is the proper way to uninstall the Linux V5.0 (Beta) version of this tool?

Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can just delete the desktop shortcut and the folder it's installed in (~/.local/share/datastream/Fire Toolbox V5.0). The python stuff could be used by other applications so you should leave that. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] selaudeveloper:
Hello, on a fire 7 in the 9th generation and fireOS 7.3.2.9, when selecting Other in Custom Launcher, the Launcher Hijack option does not appear for selection, do I have to do something first?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dbdude58:
I see in the past people have used "activity launcher" to get to settings like gestures.. does this still work or did Amazon break it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The reason Launcher Hijack isn't selectable is because that method doesn't work with your firmware version. It doesn't matter which launcher you choose.

Generally, the best available selection is already chosen for you. In your case, Custom Navbar Key is probably what you want. Follow the onscreen directions carefully and make sure you set up Automate correctly for best results with Custom Navbar Key. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Activity Launcher still works fine as far as I know. It's available on Google Play and requires nothing special to install. It only makes activities available that you couldn't otherwise access. It doesn't replace functions that have been removed. Install it and see if it suits your needs. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Please confirm which version of Fire OS is installed on your tablet.

Hmm ... It looks like Amazon may have "system protected" and disabled the hidden gestural navivigation settings in the most recent versions of FireOS ?

The most visible setting is:

com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural

Nova Launcher (even their free version) has been the recommended alternative launcher on Fire tablets to get a more "Android look & feel" (like left/right scrolling).

I'm really surprised that Nova Lauchner doesn't work for you.