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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lewmur:
Well, that was quick. Ordered the new HD 10 yesterday and it just arrived. Setting it up and running the Toolbox now. I'll post shortly on the results.

edit: Only problem I had was installing Google Service. First time I ran it, it failed to download. Closed and ran it again and it worked but had an error install services. Ran it a third time and it completed without an error.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nzbdilbert:
That fixed the contacts - thanks. I guess I could always start again to try getting Alexa app working - but that's a bit of a pain. I'll see how I get on without it - I have other devices I can set up smart devices. The device dashboard is actually very useful to me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kiltym:
The link for the Contacts fix. Which version? The one linked to? As it is "old" relative other versions on that page.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] krsmit0:
Install the one linked and it will work fine
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] keenan316:
Hi everyone, I've just used this toolbox on a 2021 Fire tablet and everything works perfectly.

However, I now want to change the system language, but every time I tap on language to change it, it just kicks me back to the previous menu.

It there any way to change this without having to do a full system reset?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Have you tried re-enabling Device Setup on the Manage Amazon Apps page of the toolbox?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dimon222:
Few things noticed:

1. Sometimes "install google services" gets stuck on first step without any progress. Restarting an app and trying again works properly in that case.

2. Hybrid Apps - installation for Disney+ worked through, but after that Netflix app wasn't installable via same menu. The both buttons for install broke and entire screen gets stuck on "Checking version". Even restart of app doesn't recover it so as uninstall of Disney+ manually. I was able to install both apks via adb tho.

3. Even tho I installed Hybrid Apps and disabled all amazon apps via necessary toolbox menus, the Disney+ wasn't working properly and was reporting "Amazon Appstore is not found", and was forcing me to install one. Once I enabled it back via respective Amazon apps menu, the Disney+ now shouted at me at app is not owned (lmao). In this moment I figured that apparently Disney+ is in status "Unavailable" in Canada on Amazon Appstore. Stupidly enough, with few random actions the Disney+ app still allowed me to close annoying windows with ownership and enter credentials. After that it kept complaining about ownership, but now I "disabled" Amazon Appstore back, and suddenly Disney+ is now working without any complaints while logged in. Am I asking too much from such tablet to just work properly for poor kid to watch goddamn cartoons?

4. Once in a while "Microsoft Launcher" that is installed is glitching heavily with lags and/or navbar is disappearing for it. I'm not certain if its due to games launched or such. Reboot usually helps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mad.Man69:
I'm having an issue where I cannot open photos on my fire hd8. It says either "cannot open" or that photos is blocked by parental control, however parental controls are not enabled. Not sure what to do. Any help would be appreciated!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Hi I'm TuD:
can i hide the navigation? or change from 3-button to gesture ?

sorry for my bad english =(((

i'm using fire hd 10 2021
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] aSDeeOne:
I have a Fire HD 10 2021 as well and have the same issue with the nav buttons. Thanks for all the help! Looking forward to a fix.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kernkamp:
Hello & thank you for developing the Fire Toolbox!

I'll be using the FTB on a brand new Fire HD 10+ (2021) & 8+ (2020). I've researched & watched vids & FTB seems very user friendly but want to use it correctly the 1st time out so I have some questions. Any help is greatly appreciated.

1. New tablets right out of the box, should I allow OTA updates during initial setup to get necessary security/system updates before using FTB?

(e.g., some have said their new 10+ "About" showed it as "10th Generation" but after an OTA update it changed to the correct "11th generation, 2021 release".)

After research, I've read that OTA security/system updates revert tablet back to original Amazon layout/ads/bloatware, etc. If so, what exactly happens to all the FTB changes. (e.g., does Google Play icon disappear or is it disabled/non-functional & you need to delete it & then reset FTB settings? Same for Nova Launcher?)

I've read FTB turns off/blocks OTA updates automatically to prevent this but I'm concerned about the risk of not receiving system/security updates & every article/thread states it's a risk but that's it. No real resolution so I'm hoping to get some here.

In practice, if you use FTB, does it automatically turn off OTA & if so, can OTA be turned back on to receive system/security updates - & if so, once the updates are installed & reverts back to Amazon etc, can you easily reuse FTB to get your settings back? Or is it not that simple or does allowing OTA updates & reusing FTB cause system problems in the future?

I've also read some concerning/questionable things such as, you shouldn't register your tablet or you can't sign-in to Chrome - is there any truth to these?

2. Concerning ads, does FTB ad blocker use much resources or is it negligible. Weighing the option of keeping ads or paying the extra 15 to remove them.

Thank you in advance for any help, I know this was rather long.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rudi282:
I'm also having problems with non-centered navigation icons after changing them in the Navigation Bar Modifier.

I have a HD8 (2020) with FW 7.3.1.9 and disabled the device dashboard icon in system ui settings.

Current navigation bar setting is like: space back space home space recents

The device dashboard icon is on left (inactive) side.

The navbar icons are centered in portrait mode but way to the left in landscape mode. When I try to fill up with more spaces the recents button disappears to the right in portrait. Screenshots similar to user aSDeeOne above.

How can the nav bar icons be centered in both orientations or restored to original?

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nzbdilbert:
Investigating further I noticed that the Alexa app originated from the Play Store. So even though I had marked it as do not auto update it decided that was not what I meant and went and updated it anyway. There does not seem to be a way of getting the original back (I tried using the Toolbox to remove and restore the Alexa app but it always came back as the Play Store version). So I bit the bullet and factory reset (it was good to know that this removes all trace of having used the Toolbox). I then turned off auto update at the Store level. So far it now works and has not updated itself. As an improvement to the app the ability to revert to the original would be great (if that's possible).

Once again thanks for the app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] keenan316:
You're a life saver, thank you for taking the time the help.

I really appreciate it!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mad.Man69:
Thanks for the reply, I had ran that initially and it is in my accessibility settings and enabled, however last night it still would not let me open pictures. I restarted the device and made sure the Parental controls hide was enabled but it still wouldn't work. I went to bed and this morning it is allowing me to open photos. I assume it has to do with the time so I'll run the Parental Controls Hide tool again and try it opening photos again tonight.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pcspecialistpdx:
Has anyone figured out how to get incoming calls with Google Voice? It works with other android devices but I've had no luck getting it to work with my Fire 10 (2019 & 2021). It used to work on the (2019).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LaMpiR:
Thank you very much for this. It has really transformed my new fire HD plus 2021. I have installed nova launcher. I have only slight problem and that is that the letter are to small. For example widgets are way to small. Adjusting the site in the settings doesn't make them bigger. Some files show tiny letters as well. Is there a yt app for the tablet since this one current sucks? Everything is too small.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] specterflare:
@kernkamp

That's a personal question. The reason why many people prefer to turn OTA updates off is that they tend to break things you customize. Sometimes it's minor and easily reversible, like if when it reinstalls Fire Launcher, but sometimes it's kind of a pain, like the new Device Center button. Amazon can't maintain a changelog to save their lives, so the only way for you to know what a new update brings is to wait for others to install it and see what they say. I've never heard of a security issue with an Amazon Fire tablet before, but as a said at the start, it's a personal desicon.

It's not that it reverts things so much as it reinstalls or reactivates things you've previously deleted or deactivated. For example, the "Amazon layout" that you're referring to is just Fire Launcher, the default launcher on the tablet (think of a launcher as a kind of skin for the OS). Your old launcher is still there, it's just been pre-empted by the newly reinstalled Fire Launcher. To fix it, you would just deactivate Fire launcher again. All of your apps, including Playstore and everything related to it, are still there and functional.

This is INCORRECT. Fire Tool Box DOES NOT automatically turn off OTA. It is a setting that you choose to activate or not. As I said above, I have never heard of anyone suffering from any kind of security issue or vulnerability on any version of Fire OS 7, and I suspect those warnings on the articles you read are just pre-generated and there to provide some liability in the case someone does get hacked and tries to sue the company for assuring them it was safe.

FTB does not automatically turn OTA off, and yes, if you yourself have turned it off, you can turn it on (and back off again) whenever you wish. The only thing that is not reversible is downgrading back to a lower version of Fire OS (at least to the best of my knowledge; there may be some "try at your own risk" guides out there about it). Yes, you can easily reuse FTB to get your settings back after upgrades, though you should note that the update may contain some kind of annoying new "feature", like the Device Manager button. Even then, it only took like two versions of FTB before we got a setting to turn that off.

Both tablets I've used have been registered. Zero problems. I'm also signed into Chrome.

Can't speak to that, I bought it without ads, but I've never heard of anyone having consumption issues.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can increase the overall size of everything with the Density Modifier tool. I have an HD 10 (2019) and my density is the default 240 ppi. I'm not sure what it is for the 2021. If you decrease this number, everything on your screen will grow. Start by decreasing 10% or so. You don't want to overshoot by too much and make it unusable by moving something you need offscreen. You can re-run it multiple times to find a size that fits your liking.

edit: I assume you've already tried Settings > Display > Font Size. That only affects the lettering and not the icons too. I'd try this first if you just can't read it because it's too small.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LaMpiR:
I have tried and even increased to the highest value. Will try this as well. Here is is the photo, I don't if you could see it, but the text is quite small for the widget.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kernkamp:
Hello & thank you for your time/all the info, it's much appreciated!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
So it's not your overall font size you want to increase, it's just that specific app. Unfortunately I don't know of any app modifying tools to do what you want. Unless there is a setting buried in the widget to increase the font size, you might just have to search for another app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sch1sm:
Hey, @rudi282

I had this exact problem today, but I was able to "fix" it by doing the following command:

settings put secure sysui_nav_bar "space,space,space,back;home;recent,space,space,space"

This also keeps the "Device Dashboard" away, so it just looks like default Android.

Note: I actually swapped "recent" and "back" as I prefer to have the back button on the right hand side.

Hope this helps!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mattzildjian:
loving this tool. big thank you to the developer. My only issue is the uncentered navigation bar after toggling off the device dashboard button.

Can't get it back to center now! Whoops!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sch1sm:
Check my comment here (or above) to see how I "fixed" it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mattzildjian:
Thank you! this worked getting the nav bar buttons back to center, although I do not think the spacing is the same as default. very spaced apart on landscape and squashed together on portrait.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] BulletproofLink:
just a question about the app stores. when i install google app store and services can i still use amazon appstore or better asked can i use both without problems? just want from google play store 2 or 3 apps
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes, you can use both without issue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If your nav buttons are too close together, I believe the default spacing is

settings put secure sysui_nav_bar "space,back;home;recent,space"

I think the extra spaces are what's squashing it in portrait mode.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] swieder711:
Just got my Fire HD 8 Plus with 3/64 GB for $100 during Prime Day. Toolbox made it so easy to remove the Amazon bloat and add the Google services, apps, etc. Thanks for a great utility!

I am the sole user of this device. Is there any reason to add a User via Toolbox or register the device with Amazon?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
There's no need to add another user just as you wouldn't add another user to Windows unless another user needs an account. The reason to register with Amazon would be to enable things like Prime Video and Shop Amazon. If you don't wish to use those services on the tablet there really isn't a need to register it with them.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] HulkSmashBurgers:
Play Store updated Alexa without me noticing. I've uninstalled the update, but the Alexa app doesn't work. The app launches, but says "No network available. Please connect and try again."

version is 1.0.192.4-prod_8500910
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] iTakMD:
Had same issue, installing the one from Amazon appstore fixes it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kiltym:
Is there any easy way to enable location services in Google Maps? I will use an BT GPS to get the location, which is happening, but Maps (and other apps) don't see the location.

More specifically, I am trying to use a Mock Location provider to provide GPS data to the Fire, but I cannot get it working. The app is running, the GPS data is there, but Maps does not see it. This works fine on other Android tablets so I presume Fire OS is messing with something. The setting is in Developer Options to set a Mock Location provider, but I cant get it to work.....

Google Maps itself does appear to get location from WiFi data and plots my position. So I think it is more a Mock Location issue then Maps....

Anyway, if anyone has suggestions, please let me know! Thank you!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dkratter14:
Just got a Fire HD 8 Plus for Prime Day. I purposely bought the [cheaper] version with ads because I found FTB that would let me disable them, so thanks for helping me save a few bucks.

I'm curious, is there a standard way to enable a lock screen pattern? The only way I've been able to do it is by using FTB, going to Lockscreen Management, and telling it to disable the lock screen. Once it starts that process, I have to quickly go to my tablet and select Pattern in the window that comes up with Password/Pin/Swipe/Pattern options. FTB then thinks it has disabled the lock screen, and I'm able to use a pattern to unlock.

It seems like this could be a new feature added to FTB Lockscreen Management that forces the window to come up and stay there.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] befree587:
I'm having issues with the backup/restore option. I backed up my 2019 Fire 10 to my computer. I then connected my new Fire 10 plus to my computer; however, when I select restore it doesn't do anything. It starts working and appears to be restoring on the new tablet but will then say restore ended and when I look at the new tablet it looks the same as before I did the restore.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] TheEditor:
where and how do you execute this command to make the change?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kiltym:
No, they don't have gps. That is why I am trying to get mock location working so I can use gps data from a different device.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kiltym:
Via adb console.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rudi282:
Thanks! That setting looks really good on the HD 8 (2020).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Execute an "ADB Shell" from the first page of the Toolbox and you should be able to execute the command from there successfully!

Have fun and let us know if you have any other questions or concerns! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, definitely not a bad idea my friend... :)(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Toady43:
Hi all! I got the 2021 Fire HD 10 Plus on Prime Day and I have been trying to get it to play nice with Fire Toolbox v18.0 and I am not having any luck. While trying to install Google Services I get one of these errors every time. I did update the Fire HD when I first got it because I didn't know any better so I did a couple of the hard factory resets by holding down power and up. I read without the update it will say it's a gen 10?? Mine is saying it's gen 11 so not sure the factory resets removed that update :( Also when I tried to remove the Amazon bloat and FTB says everything was ok and it was removed but it is all still there. I have tried so many FTB restarts, factory resets and everything else I could find online and not having any luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yeah, the Toolbox uses ADB Backup and it is unfortunately quite depreciated and outdated. I'm pretty sure 80% of apps have backup disabled and newer versions of Android don't really play too well with this outdated tool. Looking into alternatives... sorry for the inconvenience my friend :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Be very careful, if the Play Store does update the apps it can indeed cause symptoms like the ones you've mentioned. I'd recommend opening the Play Store, searching for the Amazon apps, tapping on them, tapping the : icon, and from the list untick the "Enable auto updates" option. This should help prevent the Play Store from auto updating the Amazon apps with the Play Store incompatible versions.

On the same page, you can also use the "Uninstall" option to remove all updates by the Play Store and restore the working factory version. Or you could also install the Amazon Appstore versions as also mentioned by @iTakMD.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings friend,

Could you please open the Toolbox, click on the Device name (bottom left corner) to display the Device Information. Next, could you please perhaps share the details in the right pane of the window (information such as the Battery Level, Android Version, etc.? Thanks! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Boustrophedon:
Hi, I am new to the forum and to this thread specifically.

First of all, I wish to express my appreciation for Datastream33. I truly love his (her? their?) software and his commitment to continuous improvement/update. I just made a small donation, because you have to put your money where your mouth is. :)

I have applied the tools to an old Fire 8 tablet, and everything went smoothly with just one, but substantial, exception: the Netflix app. I must admit I did not uninstall it before modding the tablet, and I guess the best way to go is starting from scratch (that is, applying a factory reset as the first step). Anyway, i uninstalled it and tried to reinstall if with the Toolbox, but it keeps failing to connect to Netflix services (error 14).

It is not a big problem per se, because the tablet is going to be dismissed when a new 10 HD is delivered tomorrow, but I would like to know if this is a know issue (I read the thread almost entirely and it doesn't seem to be) and which is the recommended course of action when modding a brand new Fire. The new tablet, as well as the old one, will be used almost eclusively by my 7-year old daughter for media playing and gaming, so having Netflix working on it is undestandably a prerequisite.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Signed: a boomer form Italy who tries hard not to adhere to the stereotype 🙃
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings my friend!

It overjoys me to hear you are enjoying the Toolbox and what it has to offer! As for adding a user I don't recommend it as the user will be deleted by Parental Controls when the user profile is logged out or the device is restarted. Registering ties the tablet to your Amazon account and can re-enable lockscreen ads, and can cause your advertisement id/household id to be applied so please be careful. If you don't need any of the Amazon services I'd recommend to leave the tablet unregistered.

Thanks so much and please have a blessed day/night! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Toady43:
Sure. Here it is. I also got this error plugging the Fire into my PC.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Well first off, I'd like to welcome you to the XDA Forums and to the Toolbox thread!

Secondly, THANKS a ton for your kind words my friend. It really provides joy to see that you find the Toolbox useful. But the real ones are folks like you whom find it useful, and your joy is what the Toolbox strives to provide. I'd also like to THANK YOU a thousand for the donation, it really does mean a lot to me...

As for Netflix, this could a problem with the app already being outdated or the lack of the Amazon Store's presence... I'm not 100% sure. Let me check the Netflix app and see if there is a new version on the Amazon Store.

When it comes to modding a new tablet the first thing I'd do is go through setup until it asks you for a WIFI connection, at this point its 100% recommended to skip this step as it also prevents setup from asking you to sign in to your Amazon account. Next, I'd disable OTA Updates in the Modify System Settings tool. After that maybe run the Privacy Controls tool afterwords.

Don't forget, you can open the Settings, tick the box next to the Welcome Screen, restart the Toolbox, when asked if you've used the Toolbox click the "No, I'm a new user" button, proceed through the guide until the Toolbox asks if you want to go through the Setup Guide. This guide will help setup the tablet in the recommended way ;)

Hope this helps and if you have any further questions please don't hesitate to ask. Have a great day/night!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
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