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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I refreshed my F-Droid app and downloaded it. It installed fine, but it seems it cannot connect to a server to get the location that I provided. It tries, but never finishes searching. I'm running a FireHD 8+ (2020), F/W v.7.3.2.7 with Nova 7 launcher and the Custom Navbar Key.

I ran it on my phone and it works fine. I'm thinking it might have something to do with the metered setting that Toolbox can apply to the connections to prevent updating. I switched one of my connection to unmetered and used that to try again. No luck. I'm going to re-run Toolbox and release all the connections and undo the other restriction it makes on downloading. I'll let you know what happens when I try again. I just wanted you to know that it does seem to be app-specific. 🤞

Edit: I tried removing any restrictions on downloading and even changed the DNS resolver I had set to Adguard, back to Cloudflare (which is the DNS resolver on my phone). None of that worked and it still could not connect.

Next, I installed the widget on my HD10 (2019) F/W v7.3.1.2 with Nova 7 and the OTA updates disabled without the workarounds. Same thing. It won't work. I'm not a sleuth at networking so I have no idea how to find out what's blocking the network connection. The easiest thing to do is choose another weather widget to use. I use Weawow. It has several widgets to choose from and no ads. It's rather nice and replaces my clock with a clock and weather widget. (Weawow is on Google's app store.) :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Yamyamyammers:
Thanks, thinking of trading it in for proper android tablet
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That's another way... ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Welp, an unexpected gift for those running a FireOS 8.3.2.2 on a Max 11 or HD10; not certain about other devices rocking FireOS 8. Google Voice typing is working again! I'm dictating this post on a Max 11.

Not sure when that got enabled; thought I had checked after fire OS 8.3.2.2 came out but perhaps not.

Happy yapping!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dbdude58:
Which player are you using?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Coincidently (?) this week, voice-to -text functionality has been enabled on Gboard running on f/w 7.3.2.9 .

Latency/lag can be high, depending level of RAM cache utilization.

Function of recent Google Play infrasttucure update ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wunderdrug:
Which firmware version are you using? I was recently able to get both Calendar and Contacts sync working on 8.3.1.5.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Fireball3:
Thanks for taking your time.

I tried Weawow as per your recommendation and I guess it does the job. (y)

Still, very strange. On the other FireTab I have here, with the same OS version (7.3.2.9) it is working ever since...🤷‍♂️

Also, all other missing widgets from the widget list, are available on the other Tab.

I reinstalled the apps in the hope their widgets would show up eventually...nope.

Edit:

Coming back to add some new info.

After setting up the email account, one widget option for K9 appeared. Unfortunately, not the preview list widget of the mail app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Feels like a figurative switch was thrown given enablement across multiple Android (9, 11) and Fire OS (7.x, 8.x) builds. Betting it was on Google's end as I believe you block Amazon updates whereas I let everything pass. Likely a regression that went unnoticed until now. No one cared so no one looked. Happens more often than one might think (looking at you, Microsoft/M365).

I was rocking a 9th gen HD10 and some HD8 varient when voice typing went away. Been awhile!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm using Neutron Music Player. It's a player with it's own audio decoding engine that supports all sorts of HD audio stuff. I think it's about $10, but there's an evaluation version that's free, works for about a week, and has nothing crippled in the software. It's got some amazing features and will decode 24/96 24/192, DSD, multi-channel, and many more things. Their website is www.neutroncode.com/player if you want to see a full feature list. It's in the Play store (free trial and paid Google compliant versions), but the generic version is better and less restricted by Android and available on their site. (Try out the Playstore trial version first to see if you like it.) (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Music cover art can be either included in the folder as an image file, included in the music track itself in the id3 tag, or downloaded from the web by the filename. I take great pains to tag everything in the exact same manner before I include it in my music library and don't want a player f#%king with my tags. I always set my music player to leave the tags alone.

I don't know where the player that you use gets it's cover art from. I think most of the players that download it from the web will add a jpg file to the album folder or to a database so it only needs to happen once. You might want to investigate the source of the cover art for your player and if the storage location contains any cached images. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dbdude58:
Like you I spent many hours tagging my thousand of songs correctly.. they work flawlessly on my PC and on my Samsung phone using any Android music app.. copied all the folders over to the tablet, so they should still have the same tags.. restored all the Amazon apps but didn't help.. thinking the media scanning service is failing partially way thru for who knows why.. it's not a big deal as I mostly enjoy my music from my phone.. one of those unsolved mysteries of the fire tablet lol
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
As a "last gasp" attempt, try to install VLC for Fire from the Amazon AppStore. It's a VLC variant optimized for stock Amazon tablets and works as expected with imported albums/playlists, album art included. Check for the compatabily of your specific tablet model and f/w .

If it works , then your problems are related to the mods you've made to your tablet.

FWIW, I've switched to consuming music streamed from the "cloud" and synching with the remaining albums I have stored offline. I use VLC for Fire as a back-up media player.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI

Since year-end, Firefox for Android browser has significantly expanded the range of add-ons/extensions available ... almost as good as desktop version :

New extensions you’ll love now available on Firefox for Android | The Mozilla Blog

Today, Mozilla announced more than 450 new extensions (software that adds new features or functionality to the browser) to users on Firefox for Android at

blog.mozilla.org
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] agent_orange420:
Quick question - is it possible to setup a alternative launcher on the latest fire 10 tablet, or would this only work on gen 7 devices?

Thanks in advance!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Yes! Toolbox has a launcher replacement tool that works on all covered tablets, including the latest FireHD 10's.

You are most likely running FireOS 8 on the latest model so for best Google Services compatibility, you should probably let it update to the latest firmware version before blocking OTA updates. Earlier firmware versions have problems with Google Services that are mostly fixed in the later versions.

You'll need to run the Custom Launcher tool and select Custom Navbar Key as the replacement method. This is the only method that we have that will survive a reboot and won't need to be done each time the tablet is started up. Make sure to follow the instructions carefully and do each step as it's requested. Jumping ahead and doing things out of order may cause the installation to fail. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Some alternatives to Google Play Store :

The 11 best Google Play Store alternatives for apps and games

Why stay Google restricted when there are plenty of amazing digital media marketplaces available for our apps and games

www.androidpolice.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I took your advice and started the Factory reset process, but this step, the Windows drivers, never happened. "If you are on Windows 10 or Windows 11 you do NOT need to following this guide because Windows will setup the needed drivers by default automatically. All you need to do is plug your tablet in and Windows will take care of the rest. Please wait until these drivers are fully installed before laucnhing the Toolbox for the first time."

What should I do? Thanks @Jumbo100.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I think you said you were on Win10. (It's the same for 11). The drivers are already installed. You don't have to do anything. If ADB won't connect, try changing your USB transfer mode to PTP (camera) protocol. Most of the newer tablets that I've seen won't work in file Transfer protocol.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Excellent, @blaacksheep. Thanks again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI

Amazon has released Fire OS 7.3.3.0 for OTA update :

FireOS 7.3.3.0 - Amazon Customer Service
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Some recent promising XDA activity on a rooting exploit for Gen8-Gen11 Fire tablets with FireOS 7.3.2.x :

Potential ARM Mali GPU based root (FireHD 8th -12th gen affected)

This is a general service announcement. There is vulnerability in the Mali GPU drivers that allows for root access discovered by security researcher Man Yue Mo (CVE-2022-38181). The vulnerability goes way back and affects almost any device with...

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] scrumpypaul:
Hi folks,

I have a Fire HD8 7th generation, currently OS 5.7.1.0

I'm hoping to set it up, purely to use as a controller for YouTube Music and the Soundcore app, to control a Soundcore Boom 2.

Can I take it this is doable?

TIA

SP
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
They should both work, but you can never tell if the youtube music app will work right with Amazon's FireOS. Both can be downloaded from the Playstore and you can install the Playstore (part of Google Services) with toolbox. Try it out if you haven't already. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
@Jumbo100. Yesterday, I took your advice and did a factory reset of my HD8+ and installed the Nova 6.1.12 launcher and the Google apps using FTB with "no shotcuts," as you suggested. But I'm still in Amazon Launcher Hell. I didn't install OBN this time, but the Nova Launcher Home Key doesn't work. Some of the Google apps won't setup as widgets. Could that be because I installed the Google apps with FTB rather than sideloading them?? I've attached 3 pics demonstrating Amazon Launcher Hell and the "Nice Simple Photo Widget" displaying 3 family members to prove that it now works. Your help with the few remaining matters will be appreciated. Thanks again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Doable ... with major caveats re: software compatibility.

FireOS 5.x is based on Android 5.1 , API Level 22.

Minimum OS requirements per Google Play Store current installs :

YouTube Music 6.44.56 : Android 8.0 and up

Soundcore 3.5.4 : Android 5.0 and up

Soundcore app is probable okay.

Youtube Music app will probably require sideloading an older version compatible with FireOS 5.x , and even then it may not be compatible with current (and ever changing) Google Play Services infrastructure. YMMV.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Hey @jhford. Things are looking up. Glad the factory restabilized you device.

Confirming you're working with Fire HD8 Plus, f/w 7.3.2.9, Nova Launcher 6.1.1.12 .

Some observations from the factory rest and current FTB mods.

Looks like Nova Launcher is properly installed and that widgets are working in general. Good that Simple Photo Widget app photo widgets are functional. (BTW, nice looking family pix)

Google-branded app widgets may still be problematic. May be part of the general Google ecosystem incompatibility with FireOS. Which specific Google widgets are causing trouble ? May be a possible workaround which we can save for later discussion. How the Google apps were installed shroud have no effect on the overall app function, but the ongoing app comparability is always a concerning issue.

Since you're running f/w 7.3.2.9 , you have to use one the FTB launcher workarounds to get the Home Button to open with Nova Launcher. Otherwise, Home Button will always open Fire Launcher by default; that is the whole point of the FTB launcher workarounds. You've worked with @blaacksheep on this before, so you know the process. Only way out of Amazon Launcher purgatory, if you want to use Nova Launcher as the default.

Save debloating any Amazon apps for last, after all the other mods have been made. As a reminder, do not use a general debloat; only selectively disable apps manually, as required ... per @blaacksheep's rules! 😉
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Thanks @Jumbo100, but I don't remember working with @blaacksheep on Launcher workarounds before. Can you link me to that post or another one in which the workarounds were discussed, or should I send him a PM? The problematic Google app widgets are Gmail, Keep Notes, Google > "At a glance" (very handy), and My Stock Portfolio. They all install, but won't set-up as widgets. It's weird that GDrive, and Google News, all Google apps, set-up fine as widgets.

Thanks again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Here's what I said last time I mentioned a Custom Launcher:

You'll need to run the Custom Launcher tool and select Custom Navbar Key as the replacement method. This is the only method that we have that will survive a reboot and won't need to be done each time the tablet is started up. Make sure to follow the instructions carefully and do each step as it's requested. Jumping ahead and doing things out of order may cause the installation to fail. (y)

It's not hard, but don't rush ahead and anticipate what Toolbox wants. Do each step as requested. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Thanks, but I think I did. [EDIT] @blaacksheep, I forgot to mention that @Jumbo100 wrote that you have Launcher workarounds. True?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
1. Not sure why you can't get Nova Launcher to make a Gmail or Keep app widget 🤷‍♂️ . Must be a Nova issue outside of FTB. Could try using an app like Shortcut Maker to make your own app widget.

1.a Can you confirm that Gmail and Keep are working?

2. Custom Navbar key IS the FTB launcher workaround to get Home Key working on your tablet with Nova Launcher.

BTW , how did you get the Chase banking app working on your Fire tablet ? I see the Chase widget on your Nova Launcher screenshot.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Gmail and Keep are working, but can't be set-up as widgets. Chase is installed, but like the other apps, Amazon Launcher pops up when I tap it -- Amazon Launcher Hell. So, it's not working. So, my main problem is the Launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] scrumpypaul:
Hi and thanks for the replies.

Unfortunately I'm facing the issue with my Fire 8 that if I am in either Soundcore or Youtube app I'm unable to access the home page via the home button. I instead have to use the navigation key to go backwards until I arrive at the home page. Very clunky. Plus the launcher has a momentary pause before it launches which is visually a pain. I am using a very very old Sony phone as a controller presently which seems to work fine, albeit if video accompanies the track then obviously it is being viewed on a much smaller screen.

I expect I'll take whatever steps are needed to revert the Fire 8 back to stock and then it should be at least usable as a tablet in it's own regard.

Thank you

SP
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gordonmcdowell:
My very first post. Apologies if I do this wrong...

I'm trying to run Audible using a different account than the one registered to a Fire 10 (2023) device. The built-in Amazon Audible app does not appear to allow me to switch accounts.

So I've got Google Play Store installed, confirmed it works (gmail app working) but I can NOT install the Google Play version of Audible, which I assume would let me login as a different Amazon account.

I don't know if Google Play's Audible is checking against the hardware. (Probably a difficult problem to work around.)

Or... is it just not installing because there's an exiting (Amazon) app called "Audible"? Maybe?

I can't actually delete the Amazon App, Audible. I can hide it but that doesn't seem to stop Google Play from being unable to install it.

Any suggestions how to accomplish this?

Really, all I need is an Amazon Fire 10 being able to run... Amazon Photos ... and Audible ... but with 2 distinct accounts.

Thanks for any help! -Gord
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
Alias file was missing, so it has been created.

> "cd /storage/emulated/0/;settings get secure tb_custom_launcher"

com.teslacoilsw.launcher
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
@blaacksheep. I'm still in Amazon Launcher Hell. But I found your excellent post #14,049, I uninstalled Nova 6.1.12 and the Invoker flo in Automate. I reimported Launcher Invoker.flo and followed your instructions to set up Automate. I then ran the FTB Custom Launcher tool by selecting "Other" and pointing to Nova 6.1.19.apk selecting "Custom Navbar Key, which seems to be the default, and widget support. Everything went well and I was even presented with 3 possible Navbar configurations; first time I saw that.

I stopped and restarted the Flow in Automate, and rebooted my HD8+. However, I still can't set up my widgets. :unsure: Amazon Launcher pops up when I try to set up a widget, What did I do wrong?

[EDIT] Something else that might help. Some of my apps, such as BofA, are greyed out as not installed. But the link to Amazon App Store rather than Google App Store pops up when I tap them and search to install. See screenshot.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gordonmcdowell:
It says null.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

I see you've been waiting patiently for someone to help you out, but no one has so far. I'll give it a go! :)

I think you have 2 problems here. The first is that when you load/install another version of Audible from Amazon's store or Google Playstore, it will only cause problems and won't work. You have to uninstall ANY downloaded versions of Audible that you have installed previously. Then you need to have the native version of Audible enabled on your tablet. You may have disabled it by running the "Standard Debloat", or done it manually. If so, use Manage Amazon Apps > Manual tab > Simple (Recommended) > Restore Apps tab. If Audible is on the list, enable it.

The second problem is that you are trying to set up multiple accounts under a single account. This won't work. You need to set up a second account on the tablet to use a different Amazon account. You can do this on the second page of Toolbox using the User Management tool. Create a second username, I believe you want a managed user type, and click Create. Then go down the lower half and select the new user you just created and switch to it. Now you'll have to go through Toolbox again and customize the newly created user account because it will look like you just logged in for the first time. Use the credentials for the other Amazon account here and it will be tied to that user.

It's kind of a pain, but that's what you get with a tablet that costs ~$100. Give it a go and ask for help if you get stuck. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] joeldf:
Not sure what this does to anything, but my HD 8 12th Gen updated itself to OS 8.3.2.3.

I'm just running basic Google play stuff with a handful of apps, but not disabling anything Amazon related either. Everything's fine so far.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Wow! A new update! What a treat!!

There's just a couple things. You said "The Night Mode (Dark Theme), and Gesture Navigation options should only be shown on tablets running FireOS 8+." Why did you do this? I use Nighty mode on my tablets running 7.3.2.x. It makes the home button show up. I'm keeping my old versions so I can use v32 until you restore that feature.

The other thing is that "Always On VPN" isn't needed with RethinkDNS. I found it to be just a notification that your VPN isn't running, and not an actual block. RethinkDNS has been ultra reliable in always starting and I have never received an update while using it. I forget that my FireHD 8 is vulnerable to OTA updates because I never even think about it with RethinkDNS.

Great thinking on restoring backups. I like the new choice options a lot. I'm glad you found a new place to download Google files from. There have been many failures reported lately.

I'm looking forward to the new Linux surprise, too.

You should drop in and talk with us commoners sometime. ;) Many thanks for the new Toolbox version.

Jim
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
So far updates to FireOS 8 seem to be non-destructive once the initial damage is inflicted due to updating to a level high enough to make Google work with FireOS 8. The only thing you may need to do is check your customizations. The update may have reverted some of them back to factory approved settings and they may need to be done again. Other than that you should be fine. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Hey @Datastream33

Nice update ... Ver 34.0 and the journey roils on ... Great work as always !

RE: FireOS alternative system languages discussions from the Community :

[WINDOWS/LINUX][TOOL]Fire Toolbox V35.0

Fire Toolbox V35.0 All-In-One Toolbox for Fire Tablets! The Fire Toolbox is a collection of useful ADB (Android Debug Bridge) tweaks that can be applied to Amazon's Fire Tablets. The Toolbox project aims to help users fully customize...

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[WINDOWS/LINUX][TOOL]Fire Toolbox V35.0

Fire Toolbox V35.0 All-In-One Toolbox for Fire Tablets! The Fire Toolbox is a collection of useful ADB (Android Debug Bridge) tweaks that can be applied to Amazon's Fire Tablets. The Toolbox project aims to help users fully customize...

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Similar techniques to what was implemented in FTB Ver 34 ?

RE: RethinkDNS and third-party VPN services.

per Release Notes, RethinkDNS ver 055 (Auguust 2023) supports multi-VPNs with any number of WireGuard upstreams, but I'm not sure if/how it fits into the FTB configuration. Able run third-party VPNs tand blocking OTA Updates together ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] andykelp:
I used the Toolbox for the first time yesterday and installed the Aurora Store and remove screenlock. IIRC, I had to choose between signing in with my Google account or as Anonymous. I chose Anonymous. Now I find that my File Manager app (which I use to send books to the Fire using FTP) will only start FTP File Sharing if 'Anonymous' is ticked. If I untick it then there is no option to 'Start' the FTP.

As far as I can tell the Fire does not have a User called Anonymous. What do I need to do to keep the Aurora Store and get my FTP sharing back to being password-free? Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
RE: Screenshot

1. Enable "External Market Links" in AppStore Settings to open links to sites.

2. Banks apps (and most other apps requiring Android security authentication) are not supported on Fire tablets with current Google Play infrastructure. Fire tablets are deemed as insecure for e-commerce transactions using Android infrastructure. Google will definitely intervene.