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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Xarku:
Hi @blaacksheep

First of all, thanks for all your efforts. I followed your last guide and all was good until I found a pretty worrying bug.

So I did as you said and disabled my PIN in the lockscreen. The problem is that the Fire HD will ask me for the pin to do certain things now (like changing the lockscreen again) but there is no way for me to know the current PIN. Of course I tried the old one and a bunch of obvious stuff but it didn't work.

So I'd say don't disable the PIN if you have 7.3.2.2

Do anyone have any idea how can I solve this? Do I need to factory reset?

Thanks.

Edit: It's even asking the PIN now to change some parental control stuff and I can't do it :(

Edit2: And I still have ads in the lockscreen with the pattern and DN66 configured.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

I've never had it ask me for a PIN, and I had set one previously, but then I just got the new HD8 with 7.3.2.2 so I'm mostly speaking of experience on my HD10 with earlier F/W. I would say to set your PIN to something simple like 0000 before you disable the lockscreen. You can always re-enable the PIN, although I don't know if it will want the old unknown "phantom" PIN first. I will put a note on this in my post because it happened to you. A factory reset will certainly fix it, if you don't have too much stored on it yet.

What I had actually said was that I'd disabled the lockscreen itself, not the PIN in the lockscreen. When you disable the lockscreen, it will first ask you for your current PIN as a security measure. It will also ask you for your current PIN if you want to blank out your PIN and disable PIN security. That works fine as well so I don't know how you somehow disabled the PIN, yet it isn't disabled..... I think you're looking at a factory reset.

If you had the lockscreen ads before you blocked those addresses with DNS66, you'll keep seeing the ads it already has cached. I'll see if I can find where it stores them and add it to my post. Also, it may help to turn off WiFi before shutting down or rebooting because it takes several seconds for DNS66 to load and it could potentially acquire the DNS lookup for either the ads or the updates while it is booting, before DNS66 gets loaded and blocks it. More notes to add to my post. I was in a hurry to post it because I had promised to do it last week, so it needs a little editing.(y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxesto:
Regarding disabling lockscreen ads on 7.3.2.2.

I was able to successfully disable lockscreen ads on 2 Fire 7.3.2.2 tablets by following the procedure detailed in the XDA thread titled "Remove Amazon Lockscreen Ads w/ ADB & Automate (No Root Required!)". Don't know if I can post URLs, but here is where that thread is at:

xdaforums.com/t/remove-amazon-lockscreen-ads-w-adb-automate-no-root-required.3784848/

I didn't try the lockscreen disabler in the Toolbox, since so many people have said it doesn't work.

Best of luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'll add that link to my post also. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Xarku:
Yes. It was as you say. It asked me for my current PIN to disable the lockscreen. I did that and then found the problem.

This gets worse, cos the tablet wants the phantom PIN to do a factory reset :( And of course it also demands said PIN to re-enable the PIN.

Edit: Is there anything like a default Android PIN? I'm clueless
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
There's no default PIN that I'm aware of, but who knows what they hid in their latest update.

You can do a factory reset via ADB. Run Toolbox and select ADB Shell. then type in

reboot recovery

When your tablet reboots, using the volume up/down buttons, select the second option: "wipe data/factory reset". Now press power to confirm.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] uweee:
Yes, I know that I have to prevent an update vie goggleplay! I did it by mistake!

Now I can not uninstall it and the older apk ist starting an install but at the end its says "not installed"

Ok, after a reboot I could uninstall the play store app, after that I updatet alexa app in Amazon app shop and it is working now! Thanks a lot for the help @blaacksheep
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ghostkillcode:
SO I recently brought a Fire 7(9th generation) tablet. I've used the Fire Tool box so many times for several Fire tablets and it worked like magic, but there was only one problem.

I used the latest version for my new tablet and it won't disable the fire launcher and won't let the launcher I downloaded automatically be default launcher. I never had this problem before with my other Fire tablets.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Yup, it's the new firmware: v7.3.2.2. Amazon threw a few more obstacles in our way with their latest update. Unfortunately, once it's in, it isn't possible to roll it back (yet). See the post in my signature for help. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MrMessling:
Hi sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong place.

I'm trying to use Fire Toolbox but keep running into a error concerning more than one device/emulator or one about having failed to read Android OS version, Architecture or set the download links.

I'm not sure what emulator-5580 is my googling has come up blank and as far as I can tell i don't have any of the listed programs installed.

Any help would be appreciated :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

It's likely that you have a smart TV or Roku box or other smart Android device connected to your network and that's what ADB is complaining about. You'll have to temporarily unplug that device to get the Toolbox to work. Either from the network cable or the wall if it's WiFi connected. That should fix the emulator issue. You'll probably have to reinstall Google Services to fix the other issue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MrMessling:
Thanks for the reply blaacksheep unfortunately no joy even with every smart device in the house powered off and only the PC connected to the network i'm getting the same error. decided to try from scratch again. Install of firebox seemed to go fine no error messaged but then when running the install google services this one came back.

Hitting Ok causes the toolbox to close and when re opened I get the this guy again

Always seems to be the same order of errors I'm wondering could emulator-5580 be the previous instance of Toolbox not being closed fully?

**edit**

After going round a the same error chain a few times I got a new error
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Maybe Toolbox didn't grab the installation files correctly or they became corrupted somehow. If you navigate to the folder in your screenshot with the apk files and delete them all, you can try again fresh and it will download them again. It looks like its C:\Users\messc\AppData\Local\Datastream\Fire Toolbox V27.0\bin\Google Services. Try deleting everything in that folder and installing Google Services again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] pdxesto:
One thing to try, though it may be a long shot, is to run the Toolbox as administrator. I seem to recall I had problems installing Google Services and the Play Store until I ran the Toolbox as admin.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I was going to suggest that next, but you beat me to it! Hehe :giggle:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MrMessling:
I've been trying this even went as far as setting up a fresh account with admin privileges but still the same issues

Oddly on a fresh install this folder is empty and the error is received as soon as i try and run the install google services.

2nd time round of launching it then downloads the files but then fails to install them due to eth more than one device error.

3rd try then gives the Failed to read Android OS version error and toolbox closes but it looks to leave the adb process running

4th attempt comes strait up with this error

hitting ok closes the window tool box doesn't launch and the adb service that was left running closes

5th launch gets us back to the failed to read android OS version error

well after the I don't know how many round round the error cycle it randomly installed the play service but then failed on the play network, account manager and play store giving the same more than one emulator error
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings, friend!

Unfortunately, the emulator must be killed or disconnected before the Toolbox will work properly. Because there is more then one "devices" connected, the Toolbox isn't sure which one to send the commands to. This is likely why you're experiencing issues with the Google Services tool. :(

Coincidently, I'm currently building a windows app that upon specification of the port number, will kill all processes listening on that port. The specific use is for finding and killing these emulators. Would you be willing to test it and see if it works on the emulator you're having issues with?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Xarku:
I had the exact same issue on Windows 11. I couldn't fix it so I grabbed the files manually and moved em to the phone. If I'm not mistaken, they are under users, your name, app data, datastream, bin.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] dev1ous_34:
This worked for me, thought others will get some help.

Saw some post about blocking IP through DNS, but I've tried a simple Netblocker app, and after blocking few system app's internet connection, looks like I've successfully blocked Amazon update.

You can see that I've blocked around 48 apps, but you dont need to block so much, just block those which are related to ota update. You'll understand which system app to block. I've block so many cz I dont want any amazon app to connect to the Internet.

After blocking those apps, surprisingly my tab's performance got a little boost, I can feel cz I used to play COC n PES2021, I know its not a gaming tab, but I'm more happy than before. I've commented about performance issue few days ago.

You can see, the last update was checked 5 days ago, I tried to press update but it doesn’t update, and this app doesnt impact on tab's performance.

Testing since last 5 days, no issues found while using this method
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I had tried a couple of firewall apps and they worked, but they were constantly requesting approval for new connections and I didn't pursue it far enough I guess. From your screenshot, it looks like the app you used is simply called "Net Blocker". I'll have to look into that. Thanks!

The main advantage of using DNS66 is that it will block 90% of ads too. Not just browser ads, but in-app ads. I think the advantage to using Net Blocker would be that it might get loaded faster in the boot process negating the need to turn off WiFi before turning your tablet off or rebooting. I'll update my post after checking out Net Blocker.

Edit: I had a look at Net Blocker in the app store. I downloaded it and I blocked the 6 aps or services that were important. It will do the job, but you would need a list of things to block for the average "just make my tablet work" kind of person to figure it out. This app uses the same VPN method of blocking apps as DNS66, but it doesn't block the ads like DNS66. It would also suffer from the same possibility of a DNS lookup occuring before it could be loaded. You can only run one VPN at a time, so I'm sticking with DNS66 and the blocklist that I included in my post.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Murrfk:
I have followed the process to deal with 7.3.2.2. that was posted by Blaacksheep a couple of pages back, but I can't figure out how to add apps to Nova Launcher. I have the little yellow button on the bottom, but can't scroll up to get to my apps to add them to the screen. If I turn the tablet sideways, I get the ability to scroll up to add apps, but that will only add them to the Amazon Launcher. How do I add more apps to the screen on the Nova Launcher? I can't seem to get to them?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Murrfk:
Okay. I got this figured out. I have to swipe up just above the launcher line at the bottom, and the apps come up. Works great.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Nova also gives you the option to have an indicator there that you can swipe up, but it's essentially the same once you've figured it out. I'm glad the workarounds are adequate, but I'm still looking for better options. BTW, you can choose any launcher you like in the Play Store and install it if you don't like Nova. If you used the Navbar option I suggested, you'd have to also change the 'Single Click' option to launch the launcher you installed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Modron:
1. Thanks for the Fire Toolbox.

2. Is there a way to stop Fire Toolbox from creating desktop shortcuts over and over? I use my desktop as a file workspace, and having two shortcuts that I need to look for and delete every time I run the Toolbox is...not the end of the world, but seems a little unnecessary.

3. Is there any like...consensus best version of FireOS to have, or does it not really matter? I've been running 5 point something for a while - am I losing anything by not upgrading to, say, 7.3.2.1, or is it just better to stay with an old version if everything is currently working fine?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

You can stop Toolbox from creating shortcuts by editing the settings file. It's located by default at c:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Datastream\Fire Toolbox V27.0\bin\settings\Settings.txt. Easier way to dig down is to left-click on the Toolbox shortcut and choose Open Item Folder. Then you just need to navigate to bin\settings\settings.txt. Edit the line that says "TBShortcutMade=0" to make it "1" and save.

The best FireOS version to have is the one you have IMO. You won't get a v7.x on a tablet with v.5.x on it. You'll just get a later version of 5. I don't believe there is anything to gain by upgrading. Later versions often have nasty surprises in them that once installed, can't be removed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Modron:
Thanks, that seemed to do the trick. I thought I read that Fire OS 7 was pushed to all devices generation 8 and greater, and mine is a generation 8 (according to my "About Fire Tablet" page), so I presumed that if my device was capable of receiving updates, it would go to Fire OS 7. So that's not true?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I haven't heard of that, but I'm no authority either. The problem is, if you do get an update to v7, it's going to be v7.3.2.2 which you don't want. It blocks the launcher change and the lockscreen ads removal.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Modron:
Yeah, definitely don't want that. Actually, I switched over from a 9th generation HD 8 to this 8th generation HD 8 precisely because of that - didn't want to deal with the sub-optimal workarounds. Weirdly, the battery life on the 8th generation one is many times better than the 9th generation, as I can leave the 8th on for literally 3-4 weeks before it needs to be recharged, whereas the 9th would only ever last just 3-4 days, so it's just as well that I did switch, really.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I've got an HD10 (2019) with an older v7 OS on it. It lasts a few days on a charge, and I have an HD8 (2020) that I just bought to figure out the workarounds on. It's got the latest v7.3.2.2 on it and mostly the same apps. It seems like it's got a little less battery life. I haven't run the exact same apps on both of them to see which lasts longer, though.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PreludeInZ:
I'm struggling a lot with the parental controls on both my fire tablets, the regular 7th Gen Fire as well as the Kids' Edition. Ideally I'd like to be able to fully disable any parental restrictions so I can use either tablet easily, but right now I can't even fully interact with the UI on the kids tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pandarus64:
In Fire Toolbox v27.0 I'm having an issue installing Google Services. When I click on the button to Execute the tool, I get a window that says "Failed to obtain download information from the server. Please try re-launching and executing the tool again." I have tried a few times, on different computers, (and used VPN to try a different public IP) but still the same result.. thoughts?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
A few month ago Amazon crippled the Toolbox and I returned my HD8 Plus. Today, I checked in to see if anything's changed. Does your post mean I can repurchase my HD 8, set it up with the Toolbox, and customize it to my heart's content as I did before?

Thanks again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hmm.. It says at the top of the error window that it failed to obtain download links. That would lead me to believe maybe an ad blocker or IP address blocker was in the way. If you're running an ad blocker, try disabling it. If you're running a PiHole, that could do it too. Maybe you have some addresses blocked on your router. Failing that, you could always manually download the 4 apk files and install them yourself.

Edit: Welcome to XDA! I just saw it was your first post.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It just means I have collected a few workarounds to get around what Amazon has done. They are not perfect, and they can become bothersome at times. The rest of Toolbox works great, just like before. It's strictly up to you to decide if you want to deal with the new firmware, or if you would rather not, then you should persue an older firmware version at a third-party seller like Walmart, Staples, Target, or Office Max.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm not ignoring you, I just have no experience with Parental Controls causing problems, and I have no experience with the Kid's versions of the tablets either. I was hoping someone else would help you out. Welcome to XDA, BTW!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pandarus64:
There must have been a glitch in the Matrix - Now I get the 'New Notifications form Datastream33' window with the Anniversary Post and Google Services downloaded. All is well.. :)

Thanks for your input!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PreludeInZ:
OH, i'm sorry if it seemed like I thought so! I just wanted to put a post out there that clearly stated the problem in case anyone else had dealt with it. I think I'll probably try factory resetting and starting over from scratch with the 7 and then see if I can find any better information about how to deal with the kids' version in specific. Thank you for this app and for your dedication to helping people with it :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It just felt like nobody was responding to your question, and I had answered the next 2 posts, so it seemed like the thing to do. I'm not the developer. That would be Datastream33 and he stops in often. I'm just someone who helps out. I've never had issues with the Parental Controls, although I think the user account is set up under a Parental Control account so it can sometimes supersede your wishes.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Inglorious_Beerus:
Hello, really good work, I have a 2021 HD 10 (11 gen) and I really hope to be able to turn the Amazon launcher permanently. Thank you for your hard work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

I'm assuming you have the new firmware (v7.3.2.2) and you're hoping for something better than the workarounds we have currently. That makes 2 of us! 😊 Until that day comes, I hope you enjoy the options Datastream33 has given us with the Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Inglorious_Beerus:
Thank you.

Yes I just bought this tablet and I am very happy for the use I have.

But it is true that a classic android is more appreciable.... we are a little too tame with the Amazon overlay...

The tablet having been released for a few months now I hope that things will evolve quickly so that we can fully enjoy it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
We may have to wait on a root exploit on this one. They've got it so locked down, you can't change the options we're after. So far I think root exploits only exist on 2017 and earlier with temporary root exploits available on some 2019 tablets, but I haven't searched recently.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kotobuki09:
Cannot wait for a day that we can all root the heck out of this FireOS. :))
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] u2nyr:
I just got a brand new 11th gen 10" fire tablet. fireOS version 7.3.2.1. straight out of the box i didn't connect to the internet and i did a complete removal of everything Amazon. When trying to install Google Services, i get the error that appears in this image saying something about a "Bad user number" i tried running: pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.iris in ADB but i get the same result. I have not connected it to the internet since i got it. Do i need to connect it to wifi? I can't seem to find anything else in this thread that i can try. any help is appreciated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Have you tried running Toolbox as an Administrator? (Right-click on the Toolbox Icon and choose "Run as Administrator.) That seems to have helped others with this problem. It seems to be a Windows permissions issue. See this post.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] veda1:
@blaacksheep

Hi. its been a while and several pages have been added to the thread, since we last spoke. Was wondering if you ever got around posting some resolution here or elsewhere? Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
See my signature! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] veda1:
Hopefully you will understand the question, since reading all the pages that have been added was going to take some work :) Sorry about the noob question, but where can i see the signature? Or maybe if you can post a link....?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] veda1:
Found it :-) . Will read it later and get back with you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] u2nyr:
that worked. thank you!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, the link is right at the end of all my posts! Glad you found it. 😊
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Excellent. Once you've run Toolbox and disabled OTA Updates, it's safe to connect to WiFi so you can get online and let Google fill your tablet with god-knows-what it needs to update itself with. :oops:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] oranextaltenchum:
This tool is great! Easy to use, well documented, and full featured. Datastream33, you've really gone above and beyond here. Even though I was quite nervous about messing around with a new purchase under warranty, I really didn't need to be. You've put this together to be really beginner friendly, thanks! :)

A quick question, once I'm done setting up the tablet, do I need to leave it in developer mode, or can I disable it? Doing this for someone that isn't tech savvy, so I like to lock everything down as much as possible so they don't edit settings by accident.