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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
In fact, @LordUnderling is trying a manual update install now on a Gen 12 FireHD 8 with some FTB mods. He has turned off his Wi-Fi and following Amazon's update SOP, but has hit a "snag" in the process; System Update isn't recognizing the downloaded file. Troubleshooting is underway; may be related to OTA update apps disabled by FTB.

Follow his posts from earlier this week on his progress.

If he is successful, then the process will be vetted and you won't need a factory reset.

Your suggested procedure on "clean" factory reset is similar to established FTB protocols for a new Fire Tablets or factory resets.

Disable Wi-Fi by turning off modem/router (to be absolutely safe). Factory reset tablet. Manually install f/w update per Amazon. Follow FTB protocol for new tablets to block OTA updates.Turn on i-Fi.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MrMrMr111:
Thanks for detailed response.

So I haven't updated and it won't let me see version, but apart from "fixes" it seems to be a good idea not to update then, nothing significant was added.

I wonder how, if I needed to, I would do a factory reset though, as will probably connect to internet and download latest version of FireOS from Amazon. Maybe something for future then if need be.

I don't have many apps on at all, as said it mainly for media when out and about as it was so cheap I don't mind being as careful with it.

I have another problem though, and this may be related to the system version (FireOS) I'm on? On the Amazon app store I have numerous app updates, that are stuck at 0%, and say "error when updating". I've tried a tablet restart, quitting all apps etc, but nothing they won't update.

Also on the Google play store, Amazon Kindle won't update, presumably the same reason.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
A couple of things going on here.

1. you can see your current FireOS 7 version in Fire Toolbox

2. distinguish between updates to Fire Toolbox and FireOS.

You could update FTB (currently V30.3) but it won't give you any major new modding capabilities ... You've done most of the "good things" already.

You definitely DON'T want to update FireOS (currently f/w 7.3.2.6) . Your pre-f/w 7.3.2.2 setup allows for the maximum flexibility for FTB mods especially disabling OTA updates, disabling Fire Launcher, and installing an alternative launcher. As noted, mods made after f/w 7.3.2.2 are nothing but headaches/frustrations/extra work to execute workarounds to accamplish the same mods you did with just using a few FTB buttons.

There's an ongoing "treasure hunt" looking for older pre-f/w 7.3.2.2

Fire tablets ... finding one is like a lottery win!

3. You could do a factory reset , but you'd have to be REALLY cautious not to trigger an OTA update ... f/w updates can't be reverted if you make a mistake or change your mind.

4. See post #11,307 for @Datastream33's response to fixing Google Play Store download errors. If they're Amazon apps, use the Amazon versions only.

5. Don'st use Play Store version of Kindle ... it's anow a "system protected" app and can only be updated through Amazon.

Uninstall Play Store version. Re-enable Kindle from Fire Toolbox. Download a new Kindle version from @blaacksheep's Amazon app archive under his sig. May also have to re-enable Kindle-inegrated apps like GoodReads, Newstand and Washington Post.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Sands207:
Hi, I have an Amazon Fire 7 (5th Generation) that I factory reset. It's untouched and is prompting me to update to Fire OS 5.7.0.0 but I'm keeping the battery low to hold it off for now. Do I have any options at this point?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'd say you covered it all!

I'd also say that using the "Standard Debloat" script isn't what many people want to do. Using that script disables most if not all the Amazon supplied apps. Then users try to download the apps from the play store to get those functions back and end up with non-working messes.

Go through Manage Amazon Apps > Manual tab > Simple (Recommended), and see if there are any apps from Amazon that you want to use. If you've got them installed from Google Play also, uninstall the Google versions. Then re-enable the apps under Manage Amazon Apps. If you want updated versions, check my signature for updated versions of the popular apps. Sideload them and install them right over the old apps. They're from a 2020 tablet running FireOS v7.3.2.3.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Sure. You can clear the cache and wipe the downloaded update before you reboot and it automatically installs.

First turn off your WiFi so the update doesn't get downloaded again. Go into settings > Apps & Notifications. At the bottom of Recently opened apps is "See all xx apps". Tap that. Turn on "Show system" at the top. Scroll down to "DeviceSoftwareOTA". Tap it. Tap "Force stop". Tap OK. Tap "Storage". Tap "Clear Cache". Tap "Clear Storage". Tap "OK". Tap back twice. You should be back on the App Info page. Scroll down to "Forced OTA". Tap it. Tap "Force Stop". Tap "OK". Tap "Storage". Tap "Clear Cache". Tap "Clear Storage". Tap "OK".

You've now cleared out the downloaded update and it's safe to reboot, but run Toolbox first and disable OTA updates! (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Sands207:
Thank you! Also, just wondering if this device build can be rooted? I just don't want to hard brick this as it belongs to my wife 😂
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
You know @blaacksheep , "Standard Debloat" is WAY too easy and seductive for the casual user. @Datastream33 needs to made the process more difficult ! 🙃 ... "An ounce of prevention ..."

Maybe even a "Mr. Yuk" pictogram? LOL

# edit #

Better analogy ... "The Sourcer's Apprentice and the Magic Book of Spells" ... (I loved the Fantasia/Mickey Mouse version, ca 1940, as a kid).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LordUnderling:
Success! FireOS immediately wanted me to enable WiFi with no option for opting out except by holding down the power button to Restart the tablet.

From Fire Toolbox 30.3 in no particular order:

Device Information:

Device: Amazon Fire HD 8+ (2022)

Codename: raspite

FireOS Version: 8.3.1.3

Android Version: 11.0

Security Patch: 2020-09-05

Chipset: MT8169

System Uptime: 00h 24m 53s

Total Memory (RAM): 1.8 GB

Free Memory: 714.6 MB

Manage Amazon Apps - Automatic (Presets):

Disable Amazon Apps: Complete Debloat (unrecommended)

Modify System Settings (General):

Automatic Updates: *Disabled

OTA Updates: *Disabled

Install from Unkown Sources: *Enabled (required for using F-Droid)

Searchbar on the Lockscreen: *Disabled

Inside tablet settings:

Settings --> Apps & Notifications --> SEE ALL ## APPS

Enable Show system

View DISABLED APPS instead of ALL APPS:

Amazon Music, Amazon VideoStore, Android Open Source Music Player, Appstore, Calculator, Calendar, Camera, Clock, com.amazon.dpcclient.DPCApplication, com.amazon.wallpaper, Contacts, Device Dashboard, Device Setup, DeviceSoftwareOTA, Email, Forced OTA, Help, IMDbTVMobileApp, Kindle, Maps, Mayday Screen Sharing, Photos, Prime Video, Shop Amazon, Silk Browser, Special Offers, System Updates, Weather, WebVideoPlayer, WPS Office for Amazon

Google Maps now works. Previous workarounds were to use either Google Maps Go or Here WeGo apps for online maps, particularly for searching for points of interests (POIs) by street address. Would copy GPS location (latitude & longitude) to use with Organic Maps offline maps.

Organic Maps offline maps (installed from F-Droid) now fully functional within its limits. POI search by address is rather lackluster (for the U.S. anyway) but can find location by latitude and longitude which I'll take from another map app while online and then bookmark. Previously, with FireOS 8.3.1.1, this app would crash while calculating a route if the distance was long enough.

(One thing I had been wondering was that, if you can force an app to crash in a predictable way, might this lead you to a possible software exploit that can be used for replacing FireOS with LineageOS as on some earlier versions of the Fire HD tablets?)

(Probably wishful thinking on my part. Doesn't look like any app crash under 8.3.1.1 took down FireOS with it from what I could see.)

Google Translate stilll doesn't work:

Get Google Play services

Translate won't run without Google Play services, which are missing from your device

My workaround - Microsoft Translator installs and offline language modules can be downloaded.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Nice job! ... documents that you can manually install FireOS 8.3.1.3 update on an earlier FireOS installation that was modded with Fire Toolbox, and all without exposure to the internet.

Also documents how thoroughly FTB can disable most Amazon apps on f/w 8.3.1.3, if necessary.

Good to see how easy it is again for FTB to disable Amazon Launcher and install an alternative launcher without needing cumbersome workarounds (f/w 8.3.1.3 only!)

Kudos and thanks again! 👍
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] hypertycho:
Just purchased a Kindle Fire 10 Tablet, and connected it to the Fire Toolbox as soon as I got to the home screen for the first time. The toolbox said the tablet was running OS 7.3.2.6, and while I was able to load the Google Play store, I can't seem to do anything else. I can't load a custom launcher, I have no idea if OTA updates has been disabled, and almost everything I try to load gives me errors - SmartTube, Automate, etc. I can't even change the wallpaper. And even though I successfully disabled lock screen ads and removed the Amazon app bloat, I now have a tablet that's just kind of...wonky?

I'm bummed because I got two of this same tablet for my kids for Christmas, and I was able to do everything I wanted to; now, only a month later, I find myself with an ugly and semi-customized interface. Is there hope for this version of the OS? Does anyone else have this experience? Thanks in advance...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
So sorry you're having troubles modding your Fire 10 tablet. Looks like you only accomplished half a mod and the other half is pretty badly mangled.

I think the quickest , least painful solution is to do a factory reset and start from scratch ... unless you're a techno nerd who would enjoy spending hours/days troubleshooting the problems.

Strongly suggest you read/reread the setup direction in OP#1. FTB is deceptively easy to setup, but is quite unforgiving if you skip or mis-sequence part of the process. Follow the procedures PRECISELY for the best results.

Sometimes it takes a couple attempts to get it right, but in the end you'll get just what you want.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] hypertycho:
I'm not too vexed about it; this is the fourth Fire tablet I've use the toolbox on. This is just the first time I've run into any sort of issues. Since OS security changes all the time, I'm not at all surprised I eventually came across a roadblock like this, I was just wondering if this was something others had noticed as well. I'll just keep an eye on future updates and hope for the best!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] radagast86:
Hello,

I have the following devices and all versions after 27.0 continually disconnect my devices. I saw one post from a user with the same issue.

Device: Amazon Fire HD 8/8+ (2020)

Codename: onyx

FireOS Version: 7.3.2.1

Android Version: 9.0

Security Patch: 2018-10-05

Chipset: MT8168

Device: Amazon Fire HD 10 (2021)

Codename: trona

FireOS Version: 7.3.2.1

Android Version: 9.0

Security Patch: 2018-10-05

Chipset: MT8183

Both disconnect from FTB after a few seconds to a minute or so:

Device Monitoring Service

The connection to x has been lost.

Where x is one of my two devices above.

I saw some references with old versions about turning off the Device Monitoring Service with TBShell, but that appears depricated. I see a setting in ADB Shell named "dm.service.enabled" but I can't seem to affect that setting there.

Any way I can get the versions after 27.0 to stop disconnecting my devices and thus closing the toolbox?

One last note, I am running Windows 10 22H2 (19045.2486) and Kaspersky is my AV.

Thank you,
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] meow!:
can i grab a copy of fire os 8.1.1.3 before "patch"
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Klevers:
Hi,

Spoiler content hidden.

PS: I use automatic translation, so there may be some inaccuracies, sorry in advance.

Thank you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Dowload FireOS 8.3.1.3 from official Amazon Support site:

Fire Tablet Software Updates - Amazon Customer Service

Fire tablet devices automatically download software updates when connected to the internet. These free software updates include general improvements and performance enhancements.

www.amazon.com

Are you looking for earlier versions of FireOS 8 ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Looks like you're randomly losing the USB connection between your tablets and computer.

Try setting USB data transfer protocol to PTP; appears to be most reliable for use with Fire Toolbox.

Also may be a "mechanical" connection problem:

- try changing the USB cable. Cheap Amazon cables are fine for charging but may have issues with data transfer

- try changing to another USB port on your computer

Hope it's nothing more serious.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] radagast86:
I mentioned in my post that v.27.0 and older work fine. If the issue was with my usb devices or any other point in usb chain then ALL versions would be affected and they are not.

Issue is with toolbox v28.0 and greater just like the other user.

So in this case it's an issue with FTB.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Interesting ... very curious.

+ EDIT +

FTB CHANGE LOG

Version 28.0

[ADB Shell]

• Improved some UI placements, and removed the select on hover for the output textbox.

[Main Menu]

• Improved detection of FireOS V7.3.2.2 and later.

• Reworked foreground user id obtainment.

[Custom Launcher]

• Added the "Custom Navbar Key" launcher activation method for tablets running FireOS 7.3.2.2 or greater.

• The best Launcher Activation Method for your tablet is now selected automatically.

• The Reroute and Downgrade activation methods now use the cmd sendkey method again. The shell method doesn't seem to be as effective.

• "Enable Widget Support" is now enabled by default.

[Google Services]

• Improved the messages that appear after a successful installation. Also added warnings about Google Accounts not being able to be removed, and Family Link/child profiles not working.

[Modify System Settings]

• A message is now shown when OTA Updates fail to disable on tablets running FireOS 7.3.2.2.

• When hiding the Device Dashboard Icon, you'll now be able to chose the layout of your navigation bar instead of the toolbox setting one for you.

• Added the "Display" tab, and moved "Display Timeout" to it.

• You can now change the overscan values in the Display tab.

[Device Detection]

• Fixed an issue with device detection logic that would read the "no devices attached" status incorrectly. This prevented the No Device window from appearing under the correct circumstances.

• Device Detection is now capable of detecting the device's state dynamically.

[Density Modifier]

• Has been moved to a subtool in the Modify System Settings Display tab, and removed from
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Maybe it's an issue with the version of ADB being used. You could try replacing the ADB folder of the current version with the version of the ADB folder in v27 of toolbox. (you'd have to restart ADB by killing the ADB server or rebooting first)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I can answer your first question.

1) Yeah, you can use a replacement power supply that's up to 10% higher or lower than the requested power supply (4.5v-5.5v), but at the extremes, it's more likely to cause problems. 5.2v isn't a problem in my estimation. (I'm an electronics technician who regularly works with microprocessors and logic circuits).

edit: Overvoltage isn't a problem unless heat is a factor, or capacitors are running too close to their limits. I don't think that Fire tablets are in danger of overheating and the capacitors are probably higher than 6.3v, so it shouldn't be a concern.

2) I'm not an Android programmer, so I can't answer this one.

3) That's something you should take up with the developer, @Datastream33.

4) This is again something that Datastream33 should be consulted about.

(I told you I could only answer the first question!) Hope it helps somewhat.

edit2: I hope this auto-translated correctly. I don't know what you're native language is.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] XDA_user91200:
Is there any way to stop safetynet from failing?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] radagast86:
I will give this a try, I was just concerned @Datastream33 had made needed improvements to that piece (adb and related). I will get back to you soon with my results.

Here is the other post I was talking about as well from 7-16-22:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bally12345:
Hey Guys having a really annoying problem and hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I used the tool in last year around April / May 2022 I think but my fire hd 10 has been off since. Charged and powered up but wifi keeps saying connected but no internet even if I use hotspot.

I thought it might be because the date and time is wrong. Currently says 15 May 2022 but I cannot not update the the time.

Any suggestions? I had the tablet set up just the way I wanted and dont fancy doing factory reset.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bally12345:
date command in adb shell shows

> "cd /storage/emulated/0/;date"
Sun May 15 12:12:42 BST 2022

Used the following code to enable time zone but not able to change the time. If that is what the problem is

pm enable --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bally12345:
Ok fixed!! Had to change DNS resolver to ISP's Default for some reason
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

That's actually a great question!

Unfortunately, the Fire Tablets are not Play Protect Certified and according to Google, this means that:

However, it's also important to know that upon running a SafetyNet attestation, it appears that the "CTS profile" check fails (due to the device not being Play Protect Certified?).

To answer your question... I don't think there's anything we can do to pass it without root access... :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings!

You can manually disable the Device Monitoring Service by editing the Toolbox's Settings file. By default, the Settings file is located in the \bin\Settings folder (full path if installed via the installer: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Datastream\Fire Toolbox Vx.x\bin\Settings) for any Toolbox installation.

In the "\bin\Settings\" folder, open the Settings.txt file in your favorite text editor, and change the following line from "CloseonDisconnect=1" to "CloseonDisconnect=0". Save the file and close it. That should disable the Device Monitoring Service. :D

The disconnect could be caused by your AV killing or blocking ADB. Have you tried whitelisting the Toolbox's root directory in Kaspersky?

EDIT: Perhaps this could be your issue? Looks like Kaspersky has an option to block ADB connections. Perhaps this is what's occurring here?

Source: https://support.kaspersky.com/KESWin/11.4.0/en-US/176741.htm
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Zapple84:
Is there anyway. To use Prime Video without registering fire tablet. Like just a sign in??? Could someone provide step by step instructions. Thank you. Love the toolbox keep it up..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes. Just sign into the Shop Amazon App. Then prime video should work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] radagast86:
Thank you for your reply. Much like USB chain being suggested as the issue, Kaspersky is not blocking v27.0. I would think that if Kaspersky were at play it would interfere with all versions.

If USB or Kaspersky were the issue I would think it would affect any version of FTB and not just v28.0 or greater.

BTW, I am not running KES (Kaspersky Endpoint Security) but KIS (Kaspersky Internet Security) on my PC. I also run Kaspersky on my Fire tablets.

So far the version of ADB being at issue makes the most sense to me, since all works fine with v27.0 or older. Can you comment on any changes to it with v28.0 on?

Nonetheless, I have three troubleshooting tasks I will try:

1. Change the USB mode. I had already tried different cables.

2. Use the adb folder from v27.0 on v32.3 (by temporarily replacing it)

3. Check Kaspersky for FTB folder whitelisting (Both PC and Fire)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Zapple84:
Is there anyway to do it through the prime video app it self without having to install Amazon shopping
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
If you prefer to disable the Amazon Shopping app on your Fire tablet, you can always access your Amazon Prime account and Prime Video content from a web browser at www.primevideo.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You need to be signed in on Amazon to use their services. You don't need to "install" Amazon Shopping, just re-enable the Amazon app that came with the tablet in Toolbox. (Same with Prime Video - just re-enable what came with the tablet.) If you installed either of those apps from Google, uninstall them. The Google versions won't work.

Or use your browser as @Jumbo100 said. That will work too.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Sheyrox:
Just got a new fire 7 and followed all steps. If I try to run the google playstore its loading for 3-5 sec and then closes again. I uninstalled, rebooted and tried pretty much everything. Anyone with the same problem and a solution? Greetings
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Irdalth:
I recently got a Fire HD 8 (12th Gen, 2022, so I know it's limited in what I can do). First thing I tried was to get the Google Play store installed, but whenever I do, it says it's already downloaded, and then the tablet disconnects. I've tried it on multiple ports, different cables, no luck. I'm unsure if this is a defensive feature on the 12th Gen HD 8? Should I pretty much give up?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FIY FireOS 8 Users

Amazon France Support is now showing FireOS 8.3.1.4 available:

FireOS 8.3.1.4 - Service client Amazon

Amazon North America is still showing f/w 8.3.1.3 available for download.

Not sure of the implications, but OTA updates to FireOS 8.3.1.4

may be coming soon, or may already be here.

+ EDIT 3 ++

Also Amazon Italy Support:

FireOS 8.3.1.4 - Servizio clienti Amazon

Also Amazon Germany Support:

FireOS 8.3.1.4 - Amazon-Kundenservice

Also Amazon UK Support:

FireOS 8.3.1.4 - Amazon Customer Service
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Shotgun4:
Thank you for this! Was able to get the play store to install my apps! 7th Gen on OS 5.7.0.0
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Thanks for the update. We don't know when they'll "fix" FireOS 8 and lock it down again. I suppose we won't know until someone is unfortunate enough to get updated and locked out of some Toolbox features. I was going to suggest someone grab the FireOS 8.3.1.3 updates for all offered versions of the tablet, but when I went looking for a link, it seems there are only 2 versions available. One for Fire 8 (2022) and one for Fire 7 (2022). Since there are only the 2, I am grabbing them myself and will add the files to my signature while they are still available. Once FireOS 8.3.1.4 becomes available in the US, Amazon will likely only serve up the latest version and those that want 8.3.1.3 will need an archived copy.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
With all the "staffing changes" at Amazon, it doesn't appear to have slowed down FireOS development ... yet.