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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jerryasher:
Thanks, I think storage is fine overall, I mostly use the tablet for streaming media

+ 6.6 Gb free of 26 Gb in Internal Storage

11 gb "system apps"

8 gb apps

+ 215 Gb free of 251 Gb on it's ext4 formatted sd card

I'll take a backup and go from there. I think it's either an issue with RAM or CPU, but I'll be damned if I know how to figure that out on Android... :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Eiion:
Which firmware version are you currently running?

And sorry but i don't have an answer to your question.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Eiion:
You can check the play store, there's several system information apps giving you a bit more information. I cannot recommend a specific one though.

So you have the 32GB version? With 6.6GB still free I doubt it's the storage as originally suspected.

I'm pretty sure it's one of the apps rather than the hardware - though of course it could be either theoretically. You could start with those apps that you've last updated - or do as described as before. Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI FireOS 8 Users

Amazon UK now rolling out FireOS 8.3.1.4 OTA

FireOS 8.3.1.4 - Amazon Customer Service
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Glad you got Netflix up and running ... many folks wouldn't have the patience to endure the process.

As a "housekeeping" matter, uninstall the Google version of the app (if you haven't already done so) to avoid any future "update clash". Similarly, check your Play Store inventory; if there's a residual listing for Netflix, make sure the auto-update is disabled.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Eiion:
The play store version was never installed. As mentioned before, I was always using the version you can install with toolbox. It's just that that version was outdated (see Datastreams comment about that above).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Understand.

So regardless of source, you have updated Netflix so that it is now recognized as an updated Amazon app. That's great.

Still, as a precaution, check Netflix in Play Store to ensure that if there is a listing for Netflix app it is set so auto-update is disabled; sometimes Play Store "polls" your system and finds an app downloaded/updated from AppStore and recognizes it as a Play Store app and tries to update, causing "update clash" . Precautionary chek , not a big deal.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] smartass1379:
I was running 7.3.2.6 but they just released 7.3.2.7. Re-routing the home key still works and so does the play store but disabling Fire Launcher is still not possible. Let me know if there is anything else you want me to test out.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Confirm . OTA f/w 7.3.2.7 Update in North America overnight:

FireOS 7.3.2.7 - Amazon Customer Service

USA

FireOS 7.3.2.7 - Amazon Customer Service

Canada

" And the hits keep on coming "
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] twinotter:
Any suggestions on getting Find My Device or similar working on a Kindle Fire 8 (2020)?

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] BE4N:
Google Play is stuck at pending when installing any apps.

Fresh install with toolbox v30.3 on Amazon Fire 10 (2017). I tried clearing cache, rebooting but still the same issue. I waited at least 30 mins before signing into google play for the first time. I tried adding apps through the play.google.com website and still the same issue. I tried it with multiple apps including chrome The same google account on my Fire HD 8 7th Gen works fine.

Thank you in advance!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Strangely, "Find My Device" service on Fire tablets is not enabled in all geographic regions. In my region, Find My Device is not available , but per Amazon Customer Service " we're working hard to make this feature available in the future " ... Thanks, Amazon ... Great marketing 🙄

Check with your local Amazon Customer Support for availability status.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Try force stopping and clearing the cache for the following apps:

Google Play Services

Google Play Framework

Google Play Store

Downloads

Download Manager

After clearing the cache and force stopping the above apps, the Play Store should start downloading the pending apps. Best of luck and let us know how it goes! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] BE4N:
Wow! Thank you so much for the quick reply.

Am I supposed to do this under Settings/Aoos & Games/Manage all Applications? If so when I do go Google Play Services I cannot Force Stop and Clear Cache doesn't seem to do anything.

I have Google Services Framework and not Google Play Framework. I cleared the cache there.

I don't see Downloads or Download Manager.

I tired stopping, clearing data and clearing caches for what I could and no change in my status. Please forgive me if I'm not understanding the instructions.

Now when I go to Google Play manage apps & device I get a sad satellite saying something went wrong.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Download and Download Manager are FireOS "system" apps and are normally hidden. Try:

Setting>Apps & Notifications ... tap to expand "See all xxx apps" > App info ... turn on "Show System" button.

Download/Download Manager should now be listed (... long list !)

Proceed as previously directed by @Datastream33 .
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blizzardblaise:
My Fire HD 10 just updated to OS 7.3.2.7

What changes were made with this? The only thing I notice so far is that some books which I purchased that previously didn't show covers in the carousel now show up.

Edit: Now the books are showing up as blank blue covers again. UGH!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] BE4N:
Thank you. I'm still getting stuck at pending.

The steps are a little bit different on my Fire OS 5.7.0.0. I did Settings>Apps & Games>Manage All Applications and scrolled over to the All tab.

Downloads wasn't running but I cleared the cache

Download manager was running and I stopped. Clearing cache didn't change the cache size of 36KB

Google Play Services was not running but I was able to clear the cache to 12KB

I don't have Google Play Framework but I had Google Services Framework. Am I missing something or is Google Services Framework the correct one? It wasn't running but I cleared the cache.

Google Play Store was stopped and the 1.5MB cache cleared down to 12KB
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Sorry, forgot that older HD10s are running FireOS 5 (before my time) , but same process, just different UI.

Google Services Framework is the new name of current Google Play Framework; indicates that Google Play infrastructure has auto-updated to current versions. So far so good.

@Datastream33's process for clearing cache data is standard SOP, but if that didn't work , try the next troubleshooting steps.

Try signing-out of your Google account and signing-in again BUT you must sign-out it fom another Android device or from a web browser on your computer.

From Google, open your account avatar (upper right corner), then

open "Manage your Goggle Account" > open Security tab > scroll down to "Your Devices" and tap open "Manage all devices" > select your Fire tablet and expand > select Sign Out.

May have to repeat if there are multiple entries for you our Fire tablet.

Now sign-in on your Fire tablet and restart app downloads.

Hope this works ... more troubleshooting steps available if necessary.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
If you haven't disabled OTA Updates, Amazon will continuosly "push" updates on FireOS and all Amazon apps .. for better or worse. Kindle most recently updated ca. 20 January.

Problems with bookcover art are Kindle related and have been ongoing for years, and have become worse with last year's changes to Kindle Store infrastructure. Lots of Kindle related forums on the web discussing workarounds, most of them pretty kludgey. Kindle app updates never seem to address the problems.

Personally, I've given up worrying about it. 🙃

+ Edit +

If you're using the Google version of Kindle app, switching to "native" Amazon app may be of some help.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blizzardblaise:
Things haven't been working good for my Kindle Fire 10 so I factory reset everything. OTA has been on but I welcome the new update. It's showing the covers now that I've factory reset and is working more smoothly. I was also able to use Fire Toolbox without a problem.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Glad Kindle's working again. Factory resets can do wonders ... early Spring Cleaning !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] BE4N:
Thank you again for taking the time to help me troubleshoot my issues.

I followed the steps more than once and no luck. I even cleared the cache before logging in again one of those times. It actually kept me logged into the play store until I cleared the cache. I also signed out of all android sessions that I didn't recognize just in case.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] cfw_xda:
Hi Friends.

I have a UK Fire HD 10 Plus 11th Gen Build 0021274104964 which I think might be quite an old firmware 7.3.2.2 (?) and Fire Toolbox install quite a time ago.

With other Fire devices I used to periodically wipe, OTA update and then install Fire Toolbox, so that the tablet had any amazon bug fixes or new features etc

Is this not a good idea anymore? Should I just do a Fire Toolbox update?

Thanks

John
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA (or welcome back, as the case may be)!

I think that the 2021 HD 10+ tablets came with v7.3.2.2 or later. I don't think they came with any earlier versions. That said, I don't think there have been any major improvements since then, but there was something I don't use that was added since.

Unless you are looking for a specific feature that was added, it's generally not a good idea to allow any firmware updates to your tablet since any update has the potential to remove any Toolbox modifications and to lock you out from restoring them using Toolbox again. Case in point, v7.3.2.2 caused much unhappiness when it took away the ability to remove the stock Amazon launcher and forced some major workarounds just to use another launcher.

It's also generally best not to do a factory reset unless there is something seriously messed up with your OS because of the danger of getting an unwanted firmware update. It's like they say: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"!

Periodically, Toolbox gets some major upgrades that add new features to it, so using the most up-to-date version of Toolbox is usually best, but there's no need to update your tablet's Toolbox modifications if they still work fine. Many of the Toolbox updates only change the sources or versions of the software that gets installed. Once installed, software like Automate can be updated through Google's Playstore, and Playstore itself will auto-update. You just don't want Google to auto-update native Amazon apps because installing Playstore versions of native apps can cause version clash and cause the Amazon apps to fail. Many native apps can be updated through Amazon's appstore or through the links in my signature.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Sorry you're having so many problems getting Google Play apps installed ... it can be most frustrating and time consuming.

The "pending downloads" problem has plauged Android users for years ... it's just not Fire tablets, but even "flagship" Android devices. The Google/Android support web pages have thousands of posts complaining. It's a common situation that Google can't seem to easily address after all these years.

So far, you've applied "fixes" for the most common issues of corrupt data caches and account authentications. In most cases that solves the problem. Any further troubleshooting is more obscure and has rapidly diminishing returns.

In end, Google usually gives up and just recommends a factory reset. Some fix ☹️

If you want to continue troubleshooting, ping us and we can carry on.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, ok... let's troubleshoot further.

Perhaps instead of clearing the cache, we need to clear the data instead. Please force-stop, and clear the DATA for the following apps: Google Play Store, Google Play services, Google Services Framework, Google Account Manager, Download Manager, and Downloads.

interestingly enough, some have reported that toggling on Battery Saver seems to work. Not sure how, but it could be worth a shot. Battery Saver can be enabled through the settings app by toggling on the Power > Low Power Mode option.

If none of the steps above worked, you may need to nuke (uninstall) Play Services from your tablet and try a re-install. If it comes to this, don't forget you can use the Toolbox to it via the Google Play Services (Manage) subtool.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yeah, kind of surprised they haven't fixed it to be honest. Perhaps they can't easily fix the bug without refactoring a bunch of code? I dunno...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Probably should have mentioned that. Thank you, @Jumbo100! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] BE4N:
@Datastream33 and @Jumbo100 thank you both for trying to help me. I have since stopped apps, cleared data, cleared cache, uninstalled google pay, removed most of the Amazon installed apps, but I'm still getting stuck at the pending.

I thought I had a good chance that the Keep for Google and Google Drive apps installed through the amazon app store were causing the issue. Nope, removing those didn't change anything. I went through the settings on my working Fire 7 and compared them to the Fire 10, but nothing I see is different.

I'm fine doing a wipe of the tablet. Are there some existing instructions on best practices on doing a wipe?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Just as a note to your misfortune with GPS, if you DO choose to wipe, After the wipe, first disable OTA updates. Then, before you start removing Amazon apps, install Google Play Services. That way you're not removing something that's expected to be there when GPS is installing. Finally, customize to your heart's content. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Something really obscure from Google support ...

If you're using a microSD card as extra storage, remove SD card from your device BEFORE installing/reinstalling Google Play infrastructure or doing a factory reset.

I have no idea why this is needed or how it works , but Google Support sometimes mentions this in sidenotes. Should be SOP if if it causes problems.

If you're doing a factory reset, probably wouldn't hurt if you waited to add microSdD card until everything else is setup.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I think there's a risk of the tablet wiping your card if you leave it in, but I never noticed that warning and I've wiped/installed Google Services many times on my tablets with SD cards formatted as external storage and as adopted storage. 🤷
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
IDK ... Google Support ? ... lol
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Dang, sorry to hear it came down to that. :(

Like @blaacksheep mentioned, be very careful during setup, and do not give it your WiFi password until OTAs have been blocked again.

If you want to be extra safe, turn off your router until OTAs have been blocked. Best of luck and hopefully a factory reset solves the issue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] BE4N:
Thank you all for helping me with my Google Play Store issue. A factory reset worked for me and I am up and running.

Will I cause any problems by registering the device with Amazon?

My goal was to add apps that are not available in the Amazon App store. When a app is available through Amazon, is it best to use the Amazon store version? For example, are the Amazon versions optimized for the device.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI REFURBISHED AMAZON FIRE TABLETS

For those unfamiliar, Woot , an Amazon company, is a great source of "officially" refurbished Amazon Fire tablet, especially previous Gen models. Deals often not showing on Amazon.com

eg. from today

Amazon Fire 7 Tablet (2019 Model)

Amazon Fire 7 Tablet (2019 Model)

www.woot.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Glad to hear the reset worked!

You should be fine to register at this point. However, if the Manage Amazon Apps automatic debloat tool was ran, you will need to manually restore the "Device Setup" app via the Manage Amazon Apps > Manual > Simple (Recommended) subtool.

Yeah, the apps from the Amazon Appstore include libraries that are designed to be ran only on Amazon devices. While the Play Store versions include libraries for Play services.

Always go with the Amazon Appstore versions of the system apps. If updates to the system apps are installed from the Play Store they will start to crash and cease functioning until the updates are uninstalled.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ah, is this where the trade-in tablets go? 🤔
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Woot definition of "refurbished"
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I buy a lot of refurbs. They are often in brand-new condition, or just open box items that were returned for whatever reason. Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never gotten a lemon.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
"Refurbs have a lot of love to give"

Very cool.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
FYI FireOS 8 users - Gen 12 Fire Tablets

FireOS 8.3.1.4 Update now available in North America via OTA.

Effect on FTB mods and Google Play infrastructure TBD ... for better or worse?

f/w 8.3.1.3 still available for download, if required.

USA

FireOS 8.3.1.4 - Amazon Customer Service

CANADA

FireOS 8.3.1.4 - Amazon Customer Service
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Recent changes to Kinle e-book DRM infrastructure for transfers between devices:

Amazon blocks older versions of its Kindle for PC app from downloading newly published Kindle eBooks - Liliputing

Amazon blocks older versions of its Kindle for PC app from downloading newly published Kindle eBooks

liliputing.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Interesting. They've created their own file format and everything.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] martytoo:
I bought 2 4K Firesticks from Woot early Saturday morning (in bed on my "Open Box" but new Samsung Verizon LTE tablet that I grabbed on eBay). The one that came Monday was used in like new condition and had an old firmware but not so old that I could hijack the Home button. Otherwise fine and I have the update servers blocked on my router.

The one that came yesterday was new in the box and a bit older than Monday's Firestick. I was able to hijack the Home button and block further updates with a debloating tool.

$40 for both! And the newer Firesticks will likely have less and less functionality.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LordUnderling:
Before I change the subject, what is the best way to search for anything in Woot? Do you need to first create an account to gain access to a search function?

Now, back to Fire Toolbox:

Is using FTB supposed to be a one-and-done deal or might you occasionally need to reuse this on your Fire HD tablet for some kind of reset?

FireOS 8.3.1.3 + FTB 30.3 had been working great my 12th Gen Fire HD 8 but now I experience occasional flakiness with Google Location Services and the F-Droid version of the offline map Organic Maps. Not very often and not in any way that I can always reproduce.

I never disabled auto-updates within Google Play. I thought that I recently did this but I can't recall if I did it within the Google Play Store or the Google Play Services app. Anyway, should I rerun FTB after making any such change?

And what's the latest word on FireOS 8.3.1.4?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bastringue667:
Is there a way to convert an Amazon Fire tablet to Android with a Linux computer? I don't have Windows, so it doesn't work for me! :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I can't help you with Woot because I have yet to use them.

Toolbox is pretty much a one-and-done deal. Occasionally, a new feature or method might show up and you would need to re-run it to take advantage of that, or you'll need to re--run it if you have to factory reset for some reason. Otherwise there's no need to run it regularly.

For location services issues, remember that Fire tablets don't have GPS chips in them and they rely upon Amazon location services to provide location based on WiFi signals they receive. This is not always the most reliable way to get location data and occasional flakiness should be expected. All in all, I think they do pretty well considering the massive database they must retain and update constantly to provide the location services as well as they do.

I would periodically check Google Play Store to turn off auto updating. I've had to turn updating off several times on my tablet but I keep finding it turned on. Google apparently gives you a switch that they take as a "suggestion", but don't believe in following. I turn it off, they turn it back on, I turn it off again, they turn it back on again. It's truly maddening. There's no need to rerun Toolbox after any changes to auto-update status.

We've only had one report of FireOS 8.3.1.4 so far. It appears to be still open to launcher replacement and Google Services appear to install correctly, but more reports would be a good thing.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LordUnderling:
Amazon USA is still showing FireOS 8.3.1.3 for manual download.

Grab it while you still can for safekeeping.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I've already grabbed it and added it to the collection of update files I have linked in my signature! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] milladog:
I downloaded and ran the 30.2 toolbox but it says it has a microupdate to 30.3, I run the updater and it fails saying something about couldn't open or extract 7 zip file.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Woot never has had a “search “ function … part of the legacy “Thrift Store/Deal of the Day” vibe (?), even though it’s a major e-commerce presence.

Can search Woot using an unaffiliated, third-party web site/service: www.wootsearch.com

Woot app may be a better experience than Woot web site.

Best Woot “deals” spread “word-of-mouth” on the Woot Forums.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
I suspect that Google may have made Play Store and Google Framework Services (previously Google Play Services) , "Android system" apps ... both were very recently removed for download from Play Store. App descriptions point to Google Help pages.

If this is the case, auto-updating can't be disabled ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I've always used the Settings in Playstore to disable updates. Go to Playstore, tap your avatar and select "settings" near the bottom. Then tap "Network preferences" to expand it. Tap "Auto-update apps" and select "Don't auto-update apps".

It's good for a month or so, but better check it after that. They like to change it back and not tell you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Yes , I've always done this too; it's a necessity! ... but does this only apply to apps on the Play Store?

If Play Store and Google Framework Services aren't listed any more, does that imply that they will now always be auto-updated ?

It seems that the Google Play infrastructure apps have always auto-updated, whether wanted or not.