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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hmm.. I don't know how toolbox detects whether to offer installation of Google Services, but it doesn't look like we've triggered that action. That leaves us 2 options: manually installing Google Services or resetting the tablet and starting over.

If you want to manually install, go to the Toolbox icon on your desktop and right-click it. Select "Open item folder". double-click "bin". Double-click "Google Services". Here you will find the installer files Toolbox has downloaded for your tablet. They need to be installed in a specific order.

PlayServices9.0.apk

Framework9.0.apk

AccountMgr9.0.apk

PlayStore9.0.apk

Install them all in order and then reboot your tablet before opening the Play Store.

Hopefully that works out okay and it all works now. I think that the account you wanted to remove will still be there, though. Only a reset will cure that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] P0PC47:
Hello! I'm in a bit of a strange situation right now with the new Fire 7. I've found, like many others, that installing the play store can be done, but any user-added apps crash upon opening them after installation of play services. I installed Nova launcher which was working up until I installed play services and removed the original launcher. Now every time I turn on the tablet and unlock it I am unable to access anything because of the launcher continuously crashing and re-opening.

Another thing I found with this device is that when I first took the device out of it's packaging this morning and ripped all of Amazon's unnecessary apps off the tablet, the play store worked perfectly for at least an hour. I took the tablet out of my bookbag a couple hours after and nothing would open anymore.

Bottom line, this device is running Android 11, Amazon's system version is currently 8.3.1.2. Something in this version is restricting certain android apps from functioning properly, especially after play services are installed, OTA updates were somehow easily disabled, and I found a bug with the toolbox that makes it throw an error when trying to install the contact/calendar sync along side the play services.

I am happy to work with you guys to find a workaround for any issues, just lmk.

-Curtis

Also something related to the above post: I had this same issue and the only way I could get the toolbox to reinstall everything without the error showing up about something not being there was booting the tablet into recovery mode and performing a factory reset.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Trebrick:
Anyone know if fire HD 10 '21 can work with Google play AR? I have it installed but its not working seemingly in the regal cinemas app
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] asd1126:
Hi, Is it mandatory to turn it off when buying? "Link device to your Amazon account to simplify setup."?

What version of firmware comes from the store linked to an Amazon account?

Or do I need to cancel the order and re-order without being tied to Amazon Acanthus?

To install Fire Toolbox V29.0, or it doesn't matter what version of the firmware is from the box.

(Fire HD 10 Plus, 2021)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blizzardblaise:
Has anyone figured out how to get separate wallpapers for the home and lock screens (Fire HD 10, 2019)?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Troglerdiet:
Hi, I nearly made this mistake, so see the first page of the guide, link in Blacksheep’s footer of post 10210

covers your question and also tells how to set up the new device without connecting to wifi
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] asd1126:
Thank you for your reply.

I know that you can not connect to Wi-Fi, but I'm wondering if it's critical that I put a mark on the purchase "Link device to your Amazon account to simplify setup.", and which version of FireOS will be already installed on the device?

In "Help & Customer Service" already has: Fire HD 10 Plus (11th Generation) FireOS 7 | FireOS 7.3.2.4.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ghoster76:
For some how my custom navigation bar's home key doesn't work while play YouTube as full screen,

I have to tab on Recent key then Custom navigation bar's home to process and back to the homepage.

Any workaround with this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

FireOS 8 has known issues running Google Services. They've done something to FireOS to make it crash or just not work. I only have a FireOS 7 tablet, so my advice is only based on what I've been reading in this thread.

From what I've read, the best way to deal with it is to uninstall Google Services and install Aurora Store. You can get the same apps from Aurora Store because it is a side-route to Google's Play Store. You can get Aurora Store from F-Droid. Google Services can be uninstalled with Toolbox.

Good luck, and let us know the results. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I don't know for sure, but it sounds like the type of thing that Amazon will give you trouble with. It might partially work, but don't count on it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

The main reason to check that box when ordering is that by default your WiFi passwords and other information is saved in your Amazon account and pre-loaded into the tablet before you get it. When you turn it on, it will already know which network is yours and your Wifi password. It will connect to Amazon servers and download any updates before you get through the setup procedure and disable WiFi to turn off updates. Then all it takes is a reboot to force an update.

The easiest way to avoid this is to unplug your router until you get through the setup screens and turn off WiFi.

If your tablet already has v7.3.2.4 on it, then it won't matter, but I've never heard of someone getting a tablet from Amazon and them reporting the firmware version on it before you get it. :unsure:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That's normally done with Toolbox > Lockscreen Management > Change Lockscreen Wallpaper.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
This is a problem with the visibility of the home button. If you press where it "should" be, it will still work. I think that Datastream33 has implemented Dark Mode as a partial workaround to this in the latest update to Toolbox. That will fix issues with a dark background causing the home button to disappear.

Edit: Dark Mode is there under Toolbox > Modify System Settings > SystemUI tab > Night Mode (Dark Theme). (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blizzardblaise:
For some reason it doesn't work for me
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I remember having the same problem. I think it has something to do with Automate and the permissions being requested. Try and make sure all requested permissions are granted under the "Custom Lockscreen Wallpaper" flow in Automate.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] P0PC47:
That sounds excellent. I'll give it a shot when I'm home. Do you have any Idea why google services will not work or what may be causing it? I'd like to find a workaround.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I think it's something to do with FireOS 8 not having all the parts and API's of true Android. If you try a Google search on the question, you'll see many reports of the problem on all sorts of forums and sites. If someone comes up with an answer, I'm sure it will get posted here quickly.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] P0PC47:
Aptoide works great, thank your for that suggestion. I just really like having all of the google services available (gboard, maps, the play store itself, etc.). Can't wait to see what happens.

I originally bought the tablet so I could use it as a stereo in my car since it fits perfectly inside where the existing stereo won't be. https://www.instructables.com/Turn-Your-Android-Tablet-Into-a-Car-Head-Unit/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ghoster76:
Actually I did turn on Night Mode, and probably I have to swipe up to have nav bar while Youtube or any App in Fullscreen mode, then Recent Key, then Home. If I go for Home button after swiping up, it doesn't work
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Trebrick:
Thanks for the reply. Yah the app recognizes it and runs but the camera is just black. Oh well. Hey, just curious if you happen to know if Ps3 controller will connect with USB otg? Anyway, thanks again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Iorkca:
Hello everyone, quick question just got my first fire hd 10, i went through the toolbox and setup everything but i have a couple questions. I never attached it to my Amazon account should I have done that first? Should i have updated to the latest OS before using the toolbox?

Any info would help thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Amandaville:
Thanks but I think I'm going to wait and see if @Datastream33 has any ideas. He's the one who programmed Toolbox to suggest removing/reinstalling Google Services. At this point I'm worried about digging a deeper hole. I believe he's supposed to be back from vacation later today if I'm not mistaken.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I don't know. All you can do is try or do a search for compatibility.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If you are planning on using anything Amazon (Prime video, shop Amazon, Kindle), you'll need to re-enable the Shop Amazon app to sign in once. Then they'll all work.

You DON'T want to update your tablet if you have OTA updating disabled because if you do, you'll lose the ability to turn that off. Also, it will remove functionality that you've gained by using Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You've done most of what can be done. I don't have many problems with my navbar because I've modified it with Navbar Apps to be always visible with a black background. This caused my home button to be non-functional until it was remapped with SetEdit to the setting that Custom Navbar Button had mapped it to. I remember it took me a couple tries and fooling around to make it work. SetEdit is an app that can seriously mess up your tablet if you change the wrong setting, so be careful if you take this route.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Iorkca:
Ok so the only thing i can think of would be prime video, I am assuming i can just reinstall that one app then? I will try when i get home, hoping i don't have to install all the bloatware back, worst case ill ignore prime video lol
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Iorkca:
Ok so i tried just reinstalling Prime video and no go, anyone happen to know what amazon apps would need to be reinstalled to get prime video going, i like having all the amazon apps gone so i may just decide to ignore it if it takes to much to get it working. So it looks like almost every video app i want to download from the play store wont show up, netflix, disney+ nothing, any work arounds for this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You have to reinstall Shop Amazon and use that to sign in. Then it should work for you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Graysters:
Hi There, Firstly Massive thanks go to @Datastream33 for putting Fire Toolbox together, what a great app! Also enormous thanks to @blaacksheep @Jumbo100 and many others here that take the time to respond and support everyone. What a refreshingly friendly thread this is!

On that note... :) I was having some problems getting a custom launcher working on my two recently acquired Fire HD8 2020 (Onyx) tablets... (shhh... I'm setting them up to be Christmas presents for my sons!) and was wondering if I was missing something...

Sadly the tablets came pre-installed with v7.3.2.2, so I'm a bit limited in what I can do, but trying to make the best of it. Thanks to FTB V29.0, Lockscreen ads appear to be gone, and I've installed RethinkDNS and configured it as per this post to try and block OTA updates. The last issue I'd like to sort is the custom launcher. Nova Launcher installs ok, but it still defaults to fire launcher, and the home button takes me to fire launcher too, which I thought was working (via automate?)...

Interestingly when I install the custom launcher I only get the launcher activation method 'disable fire launcher' (see attached pic) which I didn't think was possible with 7.3.2.2 and above, so wondered if FTB wasn't identifying the tablet version correctly and presenting the right options? It also regularly bugs me to disable OTA updates, which isn't possible, which also got me thinking it isn't identifying the version properly. That said, If I click on the device name at the bottom of the FTB window, it does tell me the version is 7.3.2.2...

Any thoughts/suggestions appreciated!

Cheers,

Graysters
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Looks like Santa's elves came to your house early this year and they've been busy! To help them out:

- See recent @blaacksheep post # 10,153/# 10,156 ff for details for Nova Launcher "fix" identical to your problem. It's related to Automate configuration ... an easy fix.

- Thanks for confirming the installation of RethinkDNS ... always good see another "solid" DNS blocker alternative.

- I think you've picked up on some "device identification" bugs in the new FTB V29.0 ... FTB V29.0 works well, but may be throwing out spurious messages. @Datastream33 is off-line this week on a well deserved break but should be able to address these issues soon ... he's always issuing frequent "micro updates" to FTB,` so check for updates often.

- The FTB community is almost unique on the XDA site ... it's always been supportive and inclusive to everyone, regardless of technical ability. If you know the history of XDA, some devs an their supporters were brilliant at software coding, but a little impatient with "customer support" ... if everyone can "pitch-in" to the best of their ability, the Fire tablet "experience" using FTB can only get better and better.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Graysters:
Brilliant! Yep rolling back to V28.9 for the custom launcher install presents the 'reroute home key' option, and this seems to work a treat! Santa's elves thank you once again!

Not a big deal, but it's a shame the 're-route home key' method needs to be re-run each time after reboot... I appreciate there may not be a way to make it persistent at boot, but I wonder if the method could be scripted and run 'on tablet' once it boots up to re-enable it? That would at least save the need to plug the tablet back in to re-apply.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Does FTB v28.9 give you the final option (Custom Navbar Button)? It should if it gives you Reroute Homekey. If not, try disconnecting/reconnecting several times until it does. I think it's a bug in the code. Either v28.9 or v29.0 should give you the right option on several connection attempts.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Dimontiman:
HOW can i Activate OTA Updates back for the Fire HD Tablet? The Toggle in thr Toolbox stays disabled
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm not sure why you'd want to do that because it will update to v7.3.2.4 and give you all the problems of the new firmware.

If it won't activate in the Modify System Settings tool, you can enable all the OTA options under Manage Amazon Apps > Manual tab > Advanced > Disabled/Hidden Apps tab.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Dimontiman:
What are the Problems of the new Firmware?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Problems include not being able to disable OTA Updates, not being able to replace the launcher conventionally (having to run 2 launchers and blocking 1, home button disappearing on light backgrounds), and alternate method of disabling lockscreen ads.

There's no good reason to update and give yourself extra hassles. The few Amazon apps that stop updating on blocked OTA firmware can be sideloaded and will continue working.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Graysters:
I don't think v28.9 did on first try, but having just given it another go, it seems to have appeared, and is now working... Many thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That's been a problem lately with the Toolbox either not recognizing a supported tablet or not offering the correct options. Usually you can just reconnect a couple of times and it will work. I'm not sure what the issue is. :unsure:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
@blaacksheep. Sorry to bother you again, but I've located an Open Box unused HD 8 Plus running 7.3.1.9. I've instructed the seller not not connect it to Wi-Fi. Please tell me again what steps I need to take, upon receipt, to prevent Amazon updates, and use FTB V29.0 or later to convert it to a more or less pure Android device, If I buy it. I did all this to my original HD 8 Plus but foolishly returned it to Amazon. Thanks again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The steps are all in the first post in this thread! Just read the OP carefully and follow the instructions. You should be all set. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] parintan:
using FHD10 9th 7.3.2.4 and

when i using Custom Launcher with Custom Navbar key function,

too far Navbar's each buttons, back home and recent.

how to adjust this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
Hi All,

I'm currently using the fire toolbox with my fire 7 (2019 edition) fire tablet, my latest quest is to somehow get this vanced youtube alternative app: https://github.com/revanced installed on my tablet before google decides to further cripple the vanced app I currently have installed on my tablet. So far I can't seem to figure out how to do so, I was just wondering if anyone else might have ran into the same issue, and if so were you somehow able to get revanced installed ?

Thanks,

David
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
Hi @Davy49

Instaliing revanced per GitHub requires some Linux/Android programming experience and is not "Plug&Play". It's a dev project and not intended for end users. Still a work in progress.

However, there are revanced APK packages just released; Google it. Provenances unknown, so be very careful. As always, do your due diligence before installing any software from sources you don't know.

Also see XDA thread : https://xdaforums.com/t/app-discussion-revanced-the-successor-to-vanced.4502039/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
As always I'm always so grateful when someone tries to provide me with a solution to my question. Stay Safe and Healthy
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] trickinit:
Hello all,

I'm new to the world of Fire tablets. I just bought a Fire HD 10 Plus (2021) and was lucky that it came with firmware 7.3.1.9. I've played around a bit with the toolbox and have everything set up nicely on my tablet. Most importantly, I've disabled OTA updates. The one thing I'm missing that I'd like to use is Prime Video. But I know that as soon as I sign into it Amazon will recognize my tablet and register it on their database. I'm mortified that Amazon will somehow manage to push an update through, so I haven't dared to do it. I've spent literal hours reading though the 10k+ comments in this thread but haven't found anything concrete so I just want to triple check before doing anything. Am I safe at this point to sign into Amazon apps without any risk? Or do I just need to live without Prime Video?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ajanthony:
Hi, First GREAT Toolbox., dang. Anyway, it has been a year since using the Fire Toolbox on my HD 10 9th gen. All of a sudden, everything is freezing up. Cannot understand why. My Kindle app will not update and no longer will work.

Should I reset the whole thing and update the toolbox to the newest version? Will the apps stay away? Do I need to remove my Microsd card first? Should I update the Amazon software first before I use the new verion of the Toolbox?

It is perfect the way it is other than the freezing of the screen constantly and the fact my Kindle book app no longer works. Thank you ahead of time.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I understand your caution, but it's completely safe to sign in to Amazon and use Prime Video. If you've disabled OTA Updates, the app that installs the updates is disabled. Because you've disabled the app that installs the updates, there's no way for them to force an update.

You'll need to enable Prime Video and Shop Amazon. Shop Amazon is needed so you can sign in to Amazon for their apps to work.

Once signed in, Shop Amazon will say you need to update, and the app itself won't work. You can't update them with the versions in Google or Apkmirror. They want you to have OTA Updates enabled. Don't do it!

I've got a collection of these apps that won't update. They were pulled from a tablet with newer firmware (7.3.2.3). The link is in my signature. You can just install them on top of the existing apps and they'll be updated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!

Have a look in my signature. There's a link for updates to the apps that no longer work. They were pulled from my newer firmware tablet (HD 8 2021 with v7.3.2.3 f/w). Just install the ones you need on top of the existing apps and hopefully that will fix your problem. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] trickinit:
Awesome, that was exactly the answer I was looking for. And thanks for the info about updating the apps. I'll make sure to stick to your versions. Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ajanthony:
Thank you. I don't see the link anywhere. Would it be prudent to reset the tablet and start over again using you newest toolbox or nor really necessary. Again, THANK You.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] bobaHA:
Thanks for this great guidance. I have just received a used 2019 HD10 with 7.3.1.7 installed. The question is does it make sense for me to update to 7.3.2.1 manually and if yes, how should I do this. I could only find the newest update file (7.3.2.4) on the amazon home page. Any suggestions?

BTW: Great forum, great people and great support going on here!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Jumbo100:
To reiterate @blaacksheep's guidence, DO NOT update FireOS on your tablet.

The "Prime Directive" of Fire Toolbox is lock-in a version of FireOS prior to f/w 7.3.2.2 (Nov/21) to maintain the maximum flexibility for making

modifications. Read/re-read Post #1 to clarify why this is significant.

Amazon does not archive previous FireOS versions. You definitely to not want current f/w if you intend to use FTB to its fullest extent.

The difference between f/w 7.3.1.7 and 7.3.2.1 would be functionally insignificant for our purposes.

Again, follow the FTB protocol as instructed in Post #1 and you be able to get full benefits from your modifications.

Don't hesitate to ask questions. Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It shouldn't be necessary to reset the tablet. The link is in my signature (the lower part of all my posts in yellow text). If you have signatures turned off, it's right here. (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Greetings, my friend!

Funny enough, I was just playing with Revanced earlier today. Was able to patch YouTube with the recently released Revanced Manager... but the YouTube app doesn't seem to work afterwords. Might need to tinker with the patches and see which ones work and which ones work... but as Jumbo mentioned, the project is still in development. Even so, the progress the Revanced team has made is quite impressive! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Davy49:
I'm thinking that I might actually be able to provide you with some additional help as far as getting the revanced manager & revanced youtube applications up & running properly. A great place to start is here: https://github.com/revanced on that page a new user can obtain some valuable information as to how to install virtually everything associated with revanced. If you need additional assistance please shoot me a direct message.

David :)