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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tonydib:
Datastream33...

Raw newbie here but I'm usually pretty good at following instructions so thanks for the effort you put into providing those.

Fire HD 10 (2017)

I ran the following items from Toolbox 4.0 in this order:

Remove Lockscreen Ads

Install Google Services

Block OTA Updates

Sideloaded Nova Launcher & Gboard (had to make two attempts on Nova as the first time it sat there for about 20 mins without completing).

Remove Everything Amazon

Parental Control Hide

After the reboot everything seemed ok. I enabled the Parental Control and Nova Launcher services in Accessibility.

But now a number of situations like after hitting the square button to close open apps or the round button to go back to the home screen results in a flash of the parental control dialog (which instantly disappears) and then a blank home screen with just the wallpaper. Not sure where to begin on trying to fix this.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I believe to add widgets you need a seperate file that goes along with the Launcher for widgets to work. Don't quote me on this and I'm not entirely sure. So, don't take my word for it 100%.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] c6z06vette:
Datastream

Any thoughts is getting the widgets to enable through Nova Launcher? I've got the same issue....

Note: The only one of your custom apps I had problems with has been the Wallpaper Launcher. Tried several times and it never worked for me, so I had to reset and forget. I've got a HD10 (7th Gen) on version 5.6.1.0.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] JackDN06:
I tried this on my HD10 with Nova Launcher and it worked to allow me to use a widget on the home screen. https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/root-required-widgets-preferred-launcher-t3637813/page3 #28
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Thank you for sharing this link with us my good friend. Should I add this to the Toolbox in the next update?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Yeah, Wallpaper Changer is super fiddly. Apparently, you HAVE to crop the image for it to work properly. I've been looking all over the internet for an updated version but I have found very little success. I'm just hoping to find an alternative method that works better. Until then Wallpaper Changer is our best option...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
I've noticed this is happening to me as well. For me, I was in Select Mode (See attached screenshot) and apparently in this mode, Windows halts the batch file until the window is clicked on once more. You can check to see if you are in Select Mode by looking at the title of the batch file and see if "Select" is present in the title (refer to the attached screenshot). This has happened to me more then once and it can sometimes cause confusion. however, I'm not sure if this is what you experienced.

Ok, so it seems that Hide Parental Control is functioning as intended. The launcher being black is something I faced as well, and to be honest I can't remember how I fixed it. I think I went into the Settings app and cleared the Data and Cache for Nova and then rebooted. I'm not sure if I did what I just mentioned or if I removed Nova and re-sideloaded it. Can't for the life of me remember... :confused:.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
That makes me happy to hear. Now, I know you didn't purchase the tablet because of the Toolbox specifically... but also because they are REALLY good freaking tablets! :D

Those are some kind words my friend and I'm extremely happy to hear them! Thanks for the AWESOME compliment! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
It's just so crazy to see how integrated Parental Controls are in the 2017 models, and how loosely they are in the 2018 models. It's certainly very interesting to see... :p
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
You are correct my good sir. The hiding is now down to system level. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lewmur:
All the gen 11 means is that it is a 2021 model. Nothing to do with the OS version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wilson9068:
Hi there, ive downloaded and successfully removed the lock screen ads etc. no problem so it seems the interface between the toolbox and the device (Fire HD 10plus 2021 11th Gen) is working OK . When I try to add Google Services however the toolbox downloads all the required components but fails with the following error 'An error occured during the download procees: System.ArgumentNullException: value cannot be null. PAramter name: uriSrtring at System.Uri..ctor(string uriString) at AmazonFireToolbox.PlayServices.InstallGServices(). Anyone have an pointers for me please.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
First off, make sure OTA updates are disabled. Once your device updates, you won't be able to change the launcher or disable OTA updates.

For the Google problem, what version of the Toolbox are you running? Does it show v25 or v25.1 in the top bar of the Toolbox? If it says v25, run the toolbox updater and apply the micropatch to bring you to v25.1. That should solve your problem.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] RacerX780:
I just got a Fire 10 the other day and fortunately the toolkit seems to have worked fine. I don't know what version OS I got - can't find anything that shows it... nor on my Fire 8.

Anyway... just a thought - I was going to get it via Amazon but I was at BestBuy and they had it for the same price - $75. But, my guess is their stock is probably older.

Not sure what their return policy is, but if you can find the tablet locally for the same sale price, it might be worth getting it from a local store and hope you get one that hasn't upgraded the OS on it yet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] user4001:
Just the last 2 digits of the build was 9.9, I can't remember the full number now. Either way it was before the dreaded 2.2 version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] user4001:
Yeah but I thought for a minute if it describes itself as gen 11 in settings then this tool wouldn't function fully. There was apparently a bug with older builds where it identified as a gen 10 even if not..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] wilson9068:
Excellent, thank you. The Micropatch update worked.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Another option for getting an older model w/o the 7.3.2.2 update is to choose a color other than black. The black models go faster than the other colors so they get replaced with new stock more frequently. :)

Edit: To find what OS firmware you're running. just go to Settings > Device Options > System Updates. It will tell you what version you are running.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] RacerX780:
As soon as I tap on that, it kicks me back to the page that shows 'Device Options'.

This happens with both my new 10 and a few month old Fire 8.

Not sure if I did something wrong when I first ran the toolbox or what. And, since I have no plans to update anything, I didn't really care that it wasn't showing what version my devices are on. I just put it in the 'Oh well' list of things that aren't working 100%. 😂
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
It's probably due to tuning off OTA updates on your tablet. I've got an app from Google Play called Device Information by DevsGround Ltd that tells you under Device, or System. If you grab the app, the version is always preceded by "PS".
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Neeschar:
Just wanted to say: thanks! Tool worked just fine and i bought the 10 Plus just yesterday but it was

saying about Update, my luck that i didnt update. But got a question:

1. How to 100% disable automatic Firmware Updates? (Did with the tool, but it seems not to be 100% safe)

(i saw, that we can root it and then delete the certs of OTA, is that safe and possible nowadays? or exists a better way?)

2. Got an error on first start of the app, but its from the updater or so.

Spoiler content hidden.

Love the tab so far, but if someone can tell, how to deactivate dark mode, i would be happy :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] SnakeLegs:
Hopefully there will be a bypass for the new update. No custom launcher is killing me!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Neeschar:
Its because, you disabled the OTA via Toolbox. Got the same problem and was wondering too.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] e-raser:
Quick update:

updating to latest FireOS 7.3.2.2 fixed all four issues.

In case you still need some information please let me know. Otherwise I‘ll try to stay away from the Toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If you disabled OTA Updates and Automatic Updates with Toolbox, you're good. With those two disabled under Manage System Settings, I believe you're safe from Amazon's firmware updates. (I say "I believe you're safe" because there is always someone who swears they disabled those and somehow still got an update.)

I'm not sure where the dark mode setting is located. I know I've seen it, but I don't use it and was unable to find it just now.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
See post #6959
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Neeschar:
Thank you! :)

Dark Mode was activated by default ... idk why and just want to test normal mode but i can live a while

with it ^^
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] XRaiderV18:
I would LOVE to turn off dark mode, that said, I'm on the latest fire os build, play store still works and all. haven't tried the fire toolbox, to be honest it kind of intimidates me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] firenerd:
I just reset my fire 7 tablet with firetoolbox v25 ,reset to factory before,seemed to work,but when i try to go to youtube,it says parental control wont let me, had some set before reset, but control in setings wont work
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mkanet:
Could someone tell me what specific component I need to disable in the toolbox to disable the annoying Devices Manager at the bottom/left corner of the tablet screen?

PS: Do I need to disable OTA update to avoid Amazon restoring access to Devices Manager again?

I'm guessing I need to use toolbox Version 25 to support the.latest generation of Amazon Fire HD 10.1 (2021)?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thekdog:
Hey guys, I got the Amazon Fire HD10 Plus today and annoyingly did the fire OS update at the start before reading all this. Now i cant get nova launcher to be my main launcher even when i use toolbox. Do you guys have any idea how i can go back to the previous OS? or anyway i can get nova launcher as my main? Thank you :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Neeschar:
1. U cant, it is the navigation bar.

2. Disable OTA, if you want to use the toolbox now or a bit later. The new firmware blocks the toolbox.

3. Just use 2.51, its always recommend to use new versions insteed of old ones ;)

Tipp: If you got Playstore on your Tab, then install the App "Custom Navigation Bar" and use ADB Shell

to give permissions to this app, to change the navigation bar to your liking (and ya, the devices manager icon

will be gone)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
Maybe amazon finally caught on that folks were buying this to do everything but amazon on it. That's the case with me. All amazon crap (apps) have been disabled.

By locking their apps even from getting disabled, they ensure folks will use these as intended. The suggestion above about buying different colors is good. So is buying from none amazon sources. Mine came from qvc. Finally,speak with your pocket book. Don't like it.. Send it back.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The newest version of Toolbox is v25.1. If you're running v25, there are problems installing Play Services. Run the Toolbox Updater to apply the latest patch and bring your Toolbox to v25.1. Maybe re-install Play Services? Also, there's Parental Controls Hide in the Tookbox that takes care of some of the Parental Control problems.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The specific component is Device Dashboard under Manage Amazon Apps (Manual, Simple).

You need to disable OTA Updates to prevent Amazon from making the Toolbox unusable. Amazon does not want you to be able to modify your tablet. The tablets are cheap because they're Amazon consumption devices and everything is geared to that end, including their launcher and ads.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Well, you're SOL for the moment. (S**t Out of Luck) There's no way currently to roll back an update from Amazon. Even a factory reset will still bring you to the current version you have installed. Launcher replacement on 7.3.2.2 is being investigated and with a bit of luck will be accomplished shortly, but for the moment you're stuck. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The Toolbox has a Navigation Bar Customization tool built into it! It's on page 2 > Modify System Settings > System UI tab > System UI Customizer. Also, the Device Manager icon can be removed with Manage Amazon Apps > Manual tab > Simple, and disable Device Dashboard.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Amazon is quite aware of us. It's a cat and mouse game with them. Most folks don't bother trying to make a real tablet out of an Amazon device, but cheapskates like me will always try to modify existing devices to suit our needs.

Buying Blue or Plumb tablets is a way to get older stock. Then there's Amazon Warehouse for the "factory refurbished" (returned) devices. Most of them are older OS versions. Buying from a reseller will definitely be older stock. When all of those dry up, there's always ebay.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Indecision1991:
Just got a new tablet and its on an older version (April 2021 build). Once I run through the setup and disable updates am I good to connect to wifi?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] threehappypenguins:
You *may* be able to downgrade by booting into recovery mode and doing wipe data/factory reset. That's what I did (before I tried Fire Toolbox), and it showed it was 7.3.2.1 again. So I upgraded to 7.3.2.2 a second time. But I noticed that after I tried another factory reset (from recovery), that it stayed 7.3.2.2. Oh well. No promises it would work for you, though.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You don't need to connect to WiFi to set it up, and with the current situation, you probably don't want to connect until you get OTA updates disabled. Once OTA updates are off, you're safe to connect to WiFi.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yeah, you're good to go if you have OTA updates disabled.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] MLett21:
@Datastream33 care to lend some guidance. Is this a separate program/app or is It built into ToolBox?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
If you're running a 2017 HD 10 tablet, it may be the older version that the launcher gets downgraded instead of disabled. I'm not sure of the logistics of that method versus disabling the launcher, but I think that's the version where there's a 5 second delay before the replacement launcher (Nova) comes up. 5 seconds can seem an eternity on a computer so it's not ideal.

Have you replaced the launcher with the Toolbox yet? If so, does Nova come up 5 seconds after closing an app? (I believe the Amazon Launcher comes up first and is replaced after 5 seconds.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mkanet:
Im getting errors when I execute that ADB code. This is what it looks like..

adb.exe shell settings put secure sysui_nav_bar "space,back;home;recent,space"

/system/bin/sh: home: not found
/system/bin/sh: recent, space: not found
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I just tried this on mine. It turns out that you need to replace the semicolons with commas.

adb.exe shell settings put secure sysui_nav_bar "space,back,home,recent,space"
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Howdy! Recently ran FTB 25.1 against a 9th and 11th gen HD 10 rocking FireOS 7.3.2.2. Installed Google Play Services/Store, disabling unneeded Amazon apps and made a few other tweaks that could have easily been accomplished via standard UI toggles (but easier with FTB). Encountered no issues; everything worked as expected. Obviously, YMMV applies if using other FTB features, especially given warnings about compatibility concerns with more recent builds of FireOS.

Observation and question:

- O: Noticed "Automatic Updates" under "Modify System Settings" appears to operate opposite of what is shown. Is this a known 'bug' or am I misinterpreting what FTP is showing?

- Q: Is there any way to disable the persistent (and rather annoying) FTP notification regarding OTA Updates being enabled. Yes, I know that to be the case and I understand/accept the risk of retaining that setting.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mkanet:
I got it working thanks. Theres only one issue. I'm not able to disable OTA updates. It says "toggling" indefinitely until I click "ok" to acknowledge the warning that the update would change it anytime. After that, it still shows as enabled.

Is there a chance my Fire OS is too new? It's a brand new 2021 Amazon Fire HD 10.1 (2021). I had ran all the updates when I first got the tablet. I'm worried that the Manage Devices icon and respective access to it will be restored.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DATAstrm:
Is there any way to either 1) set a maximum charge limit or 2) prevent charging altogether?

I'm planning on using my fire tablet as an always-plugged-in screen for home automation and it would be nice to prevent charging. There's no need to have a fully charged battery when the device will always be plugged in.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mkanet:
I didn't know the hosts file could be modified without rooting the device.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mkanet:
Is there a chance there will be an Amazon Toolbox update to be able T? o disable the OTA updater again on the newest FIREOS?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kucingfight:
sorry to ask around, do the new firmware fixed or still has issue with Google Play Services? thanks

*p/s i did not had my fire tablet for the past 4 weeks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] RacerX780:
Thanks for the app info. My Fire 8 is os 7.3.19 with a build time of April 23, 2021. My Fire 10 is 7.3.19 with a build time of May 29, 2021.

I got the Fire 8 from Target when it was on sale a few months ago, I think for $45 or $50.. and I got the Fire 10 last weekend from BestBuy for $75. (Both from stores in NJ)

Both are black devices.

Never had any of these tablets before, and the thread is super long.. so I didn't read a ton of messages when I first got the Fire 8, but I did see something at some point when doing my research that indicated not letting the device update or connect to wifi before running the toolbox. So for both devices I disabled OTA updates first before even attempting to connect to my network.

Anyway, if nothing else... seems logical that if possible to get a unit from a source that might not have the very latest OS build on them already.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pheno.menon:
Working great on my 11th gen Fire HD 10 - thanks!

Is there some way to turn on system-wide dark mode?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Pheno.menon:
Thanks!

FYI, in case it's useful to anyone - mine came with Fire OS 7.3.1.9, bought from Best Buy.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] gpz1100:
As far as downgrading, is there a full firmware somewhere in circulation? I believe fastboot mode does not exist on this device, so that leaves EDL?

That's about the only way I can see to bringing back full functionality pre 7.3.2.2 update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Unfortunately, we haven't been able to find a method that is instant yet, so the downgrade method is the best we got for now until something better comes along. So sorry my friend! :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Ah, the Setup Tour?

Ok, I'll take a look and see what's going on. Thank you for the report! (y)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thekdog:
Damn... well thank you for the fast reply sir i appreciate it, i shall keep coming back here to see if there is any progress with that, maybe i'll just end up returning it and buying it again :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] thekdog:
Hey dude, i just tried but unfortunately it still had 7.3.2.2 when i rebooted :( thanks for the message anyway :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Alright, time to get serious...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jimnastics:
Good luck mate, we're all rootin' for ya :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] d4rthpaul:
Just bought my first Fire HD10 and myself and my wife use it. I have successfully installed Google Services on my account, play store loads and works fine. I notice its only installed on my user, so I tried to add the Google Services to my wifes user account so she can have Chrome etc as well but I get this error. Is it not possible to install it for all users on the device?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
What commonly breaks with customizations 7.3.2.2? As noted in a previous post I had no issues installing Play Services/Store and making a few other tweaks with FTB 25.1 on 9th and 11th gen HD10 running 7.3.2.2. I saw some references to borked custom launchers which would be a real loss for many. Also inability to disable OTA updates. Is that it?

FWIW, I have learned to live with Amazon's default launcher (Home Pages) as 98% of my interactions are app/browser based anyhow. Dropping things in folders helps with organization. Annoying, but livable.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] PudJones:
first time using firetool and i can't get past the installing google services, it just says error for all of them then firetool box closes and won't attempt to run it again, I reinstalled firetool box 3 times, and even factory reset my fire HD 10, 3 times and ran the full new user assistant, I have deleted the google folders and everything I have seen online todo, What am I missing? is there a fix? please help
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LotharMo:
Hi - I had the same issue. It seems that if you disable the lock screen you still get rid of the ads. The home screen looks so outdated it is really annoying. A workaround may be to install one of these apps which offer modification and extra functions related to the home button.

I am playing around with "Navigation bar" and this allows to map an app to the long press (1-2 sec) home button and you might make this app the lawnchair or Nova launcher. Just an idea.

Navigation bar App
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LotharMo:
Yes - you might have to do this part manually. If you updated everything some of the functions of this toolbox wont work. I recommend you follow these steps and use the toolbox mainly to disable the lock screen and remove the amazon apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mcocorochio:
jhford,

My best guess is that this is not a Fire Toolbox related issue.

I have a houseful of old phones and tablets that I is use for root experiments, remotes, music players etc. I have noticed that the calendar widget has had all sorts of issues that manifest itself differently on various devices.

-Some work fine

-Some have crazy long delays before populating

-And others indicate a widget failed to load error, but eventually populate.

On my HD8/Fire toolbox system, it takes a minute and half to populate the widget. This is at the longer end of the calendar loading time of my devices. I'm guessing it is related to having multiple calendars on some system (the manufacturer's app and Google's).

MCocorochio
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] supernoodles2011:
@Datastream33 Sorry to ask again but do you happen to know anything about the issue i posted back on page 346? thanks again

https://xdaforums.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox-v25-0.3889604/page-346#post-85981001