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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Datastream33 has mentioned the Fire TV/Firestick devices in the past, and it is possible but nothing has been done there yet. There are several other forums here devoted to all the varieties of Fire TV/Firestick. A lot has been done with them.

As far as ADB over WiFi, I tried connecting to my fire tablet over WiFi with ADB and it refused the connection. I don't know if I did something wrong or if it's just blocked. Since the toolbox operates through ADB, the connection would need to occur first. I can connect to my Firestick fine, but not the HD 10. :confused:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Japperwookie:
I just installed v19 on my new Fire HD 10 2021.

I just have a few questions.

1. Which Android OS version is it, for the sake of identifying hardware compatibilities (like wireless game controllers) and software compatibilities?

I tried to find that info the normal way, but after installing v19, that doesn't work.

2. Are the aforementioned compatibilities effected by which launcher I choose to install via Toolbox V19?

3. What about dongles and hubs? When shopping for such a device, should I shop as if I had an Android tablet with Android OS, or should I shop based on it being an Amazon Fire HD 10 2021?

4. I should have asked this last question before deciding if I should install Fire Toolbox, but I still want to know. Has this voided the Amazon warranty?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'll try to answer your questions.

1. The version of Android depends on your tablet model and year. Without looking it up, I beleive the newer ones (2019 and beyond) are Android 9 and the older ones (2017 or so) are Android 7).

2. I'm not aware of any launcher / hardware incompatibilities.

3. There are a few threads on XDA recommending certain hubs and USB drives. I just bought a cheap USB2 hub for my Firestick and a USB2 card reader on Amazon and put a name brand card in it. It works fine, but I have seen reports of certain hubs/usb card readers that don't work. I mentioned USB2 because all the Fire devices use USB2 not 3.

4. Using the Fire Toolbox will not void your warranty. A simple factory reset restores the tablet to defaults so you can return it for warranty work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mannequin:
is there a way to keep Kindle / Store app? as i understand it can't be installed from the Play Store?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
You can re-enable the Kindle app and the Amazon App Store individually in the toolbox under Manage Amazon Apps. But, if you have run one of the debloat lists, you may have disabled some functions needed for them to run. Look through the debloat lists you may have run and you'll have to manually re-enable associated apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mannequin:
i tried to do just that (even tried to remove some of the Kindle related apps from the list first just going by names) but the list appears to be very "aggressive" as it completely deregisters the tablet from Amazon services so absolutely everything related to Amazon stops working (even after restoring everything from the Fire Toolbox default list).

i don't know if it's possible but it would be nice to have some basic descriptions for the apps in the list or at least separate the packages that don't break basic functionality as i can imagine running a list like that might be very frustrating for people who are doing it for the first time or would love to continue to use some basic Amazon stuff.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Hmm, not a bad idea. Maybe one day in the future. Thanks for the suggestion! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Awesome, glad to hear it works well on Windows 11!

Just like @Falcon342 mentioned, feel free to edit the debloat files to your heart's content. By the way, you can right-click the debloat file > Open With > Notepad and Windows should now open .debloat files in Notepad from now on. ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mocomero:
Good morning to all!

I'm having problem installing googe services. 3/4 services install well but play services give me an error. It keeps happening everytime I try to install it again. I've tried reinstlaling the toolbox with no success. the play store won't let me sign in and I supposed that's the reason why. I've tried searching in the forum but couldn't find any solution. I'll post the error I get.

Any advice would be really aprecciated. Have a great day!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Try clearing Cache/Data for Google Services in the Google Services (Manage) subtool and installing again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Mocomero:
tried it already but didn't work :-/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Well, you could try uninstalling/reinstalling. 😕 Or there's manual installation described earlier in this thread with links to files posted by Falcon342.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Google-Services-For-FireOS7.zip
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Well, thank you my good friend! Glad to see you found the Setup Tour and the Toolbox useful! As for Google Services seems it seems the timeout check at least worked so that's good. In addition, THANKS A TON for the donation my friend! It really does mean a lot! :D

By the way, welcome to XDA! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Datastream33:
Looks like the APK wasn't fully downloaded and became corrupted. As @blaacksheep mentioned, re-executing the tool should resolve the issue. Best of luck and let us know how it goes! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Themystro1:
That fixed it, thanks - weird emulator I had no idea got installed was in the background.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] spocko:
Thanks for your work Datastream!

I have a Fire HD 10 2017 with FireOS 5.6.8.0. Couple of issues:

- With toolbox v19 on Win 10, the toolbox seems to bomb with .net errors after removing google services. I did this twice, and it happened both times, so I think it's reproducible. The toolbox restarts quickly, so I wasn't able to capture the error details.

- I have the google services installed, and Google apps are working except for Contacts. I installed the contacts sync app as mentioned earlier in the thread, but contacts are still not working. On a fresh reinstall of the Contacts app, the sign in button responds with "no app was found to handle this action". If I skip and go to the main contacts screen, and tap the person icon in the upper right, the app just exits. I can add contacts to the device, but can't sync to google. Any suggestions?

Edit:

Oops, never mind that question about Contacts. I just had to be more patient. After sitting for a few min, Contacts magically started working. Maybe something needed to update in the background.

It might be helpful to add an option in the toolbox to install the contacts sync app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LaMpiR:
Hi.

I would appreciate any help.

I got the v18, I have done everything but wanted to add my wife. Added her, but here account is like the normal fireos.

Removed everything like I did with mine, got the update to v19, got a log of messages that stuff is already installed and not we are getting message when she logs in:

"Fire wird gestartet" in German. It means Fire is going to start but it keeps spinnig that.

We were able to log in just once on her account(added the second profile in the settings) and everything was like it was original fire os.

What to do? I would like for her to have normal access like I do, google services and so on.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] spocko:
A question about FamilyLink:

My Fire HD 10 2017 is used by my kid, and I use FamilyLink to manage their phone. FamilyLink doesn't work on this tablet, which is ok, I don't need it there. But when FamilyLink supervision is enabled for the google account, it seems to interfere with the tablet. When enabled, the tablet shows a "Account action required" notification, and if I select it, a screen saying "Checking for updates" is displayed, sits there for a minute, then fails with "something went wrong". It seems to be some kind of google account issue.

Previously the installed google apps such as play store, calendar, etc. would not work when FamilyLink supervision was enabled for the google account. If I disabled supervision, then they would magically resume working. After removing and reinstalling google services on the tablet, the google apps are now working while supervision is enabled, even though the "account action" notification is still displayed. If they continue working, then this isn't a big deal. I'll have to wait and see.

Has anyone else has encountered this issue and found any workarounds?

Edit:

A few hours after reinstalling google services and reenabling FamilyLink, some google apps are no longer working properly. For example, Contacts and Keep cannot sync. Opening Keep causes the "Checking for updates" screen to come up. Others such as Gmail and Caleldar are still ok so far.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] musbasura:
Hi don't know if this is the appropiate thread to help troubleshooting but I have some problems.

1. I installed messenger kids on the tablet but it seems that it only acknowledges recieving calls if the app is actively open , if I call my kid and its not open it doesn't register anything.

2. Hybrid apps just stay on Version:Checking all the time so can't install netflix or disney

3. I made a backup using the system restore and saved the file on my computer , I did a factory reset and tried restoring from the backup but it seems its not adding the data in the android/data folder . Is it because I'm using a SD card?

I'm using Fire toolbox V19.0

My kindle is Amazon Fire HD 10 (2019)

I ran the standard debloat and then did the restore everything in case that helped with number 1.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
@blaacksheep. I ran the debloat.txt to make sure all relevant Amazon apps are disabled, but I'm still having problems with only one Android app - the "Calendar Widget." It obtains its data from the native Android "Calendar" app which contains several sub-calendars based on ones various Google accounts. I have 2 accounts; one associated with my Gmail address and the other associated with my Google Voice email address. They normally result in about selectable 10 sub-calendars appearing. But, now, no calendars appear when setting up the Calendar Widget. But, even worse, no calendars whatsoever appear after running debloat.txt. Before that though one calendar did appear called "Amazon Cloud Calendar," which, of course, is unusable. I would love to get the Calendar Widget working like it does on all my Android devices. Any suggestions? While I wait for a response, I'll re-enable all Amazon apps and then I'll run "Standard Debloat (recommended)" which should result in at least the Amazon Cloud Calendar appearing.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] tovi888:
After installing Nova Launcher my navigation bar is invisible in portrait but it appears during landscape. I already disabled the transparent navigation bar in look and feel, how can I fix it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I'm not sure what debloat.txt file you ran. Remember, when you run ANY debloat list(s) you are disabling functions that may be needed to run other apps. I would recommend setting up the tablet to the way you want it BEFORE running any debloat lists. Ideally, you should know what each thing on the debloat list you plan on running does. Then you can judge whether or not to keep it on the list. Once satisfied that you are not removing anything you'll need, you can run the list then test your tablet to verify that everything still works as desired.

I would try re-enabling Calender and Contacts under Manage Amazon Apps (Manually Restore). I would also re-enable anything on your debloat list that looks like it remotely affects Google's Calendar. Unless someone else knows what list you used and has some knowledge of Google Calendar's requirements, that's my best guess.

Just as a general warning to anyone wanting to use a debloat list: Do this LAST after you have everything set up to your liking and verified working. Then you know when something no longer works, that something on the debloat list you used did it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ComputerTech312:
Hello, firstly, i am amazed of how awesome this application is.

Secondly, is it possible to make this application delete preinstalled apps? they waste storage.

and finally, does using nova launcher instead of default fire launcher use more CPU? or is it the same?

Thanks in advanced :D

EDIT:

oh one more question, if i use Fire toolbox to make changes, can my fire 7 undo the changes, if i disabled the automatic update thingy? lol thanks :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Hi and welcome to XDA.

Unfortunately, the Toolbox can't delete any pre-installed apps. It can only disable them and being disabled, they're no longer using RAM. You can always add an SD card to increase your storage!

As far as I know, the Nova Launcher uses no more memory or CPU than the Fire Launcher. It probably uses less.

All changes made with the Toolbox can be reverted back to stock by doing a Factory Reset so if you want to trade it in or need warranty work you just have to reset it.

I would highly recommend disabling OTA Updates and Automatic Updates. Amazon is constantly in a battle with us to prevent us from modifying their tablets and any OTA updates will likely replace your launcher, restore your lockscreen ads, add unwanted "features" that are hard to remove, and force you to re-run the Toolbox to get your tablet to the way you want it.😠
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] yakumoklesk:
Has anybody got a way of setting up a google family link managed account as the first account in a Fire 10 2021 tablet yet? Is there anyone working on finding a solution to this, like bypassing the google certification check? If anybody knows anything about this I would appreciate it very much.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ericsodt:
This is great! I was able to load the apps I wanted for the kids and have better control over the memory and file storage - FINALLY!

The one thing that I miss is being able to control my children's screen time (i.e. Child 1 has 30 min/day. Child 2 has 45 min/day).

Any ideas on how we might be able to enable that?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] spocko:
A note regarding voice typing:

On a Fire HD 10 2019, I wasn't able to get voice typing to work with Gboard. When I tap the mic button, it starts to go to voice mode, but then immediately exits.

It does however work with Swiftkey, if you install the Google app from the Play store. Once you have the Google app, you can also install the Google Voice Search app, if desired. It's not available in the play store, but you can get it from apkmirror and sideload it.

Voice Search 4.0.0 APK Download by Google LLC - APKMirror

Voice Search 4.0.0 APK Download by Google LLC - APKMirror Free and safe Android APK downloads

www.apkmirror.com

And a note regarding Netflix:

Again on a Fire HD 10 2019, Netflix is not available in the play store. I had to download it from the Amazon app store instead, and that version seems to work fine. Or install via the Hybrid Apps section of the toolbox.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] spocko:
@Falcon342 Do you happen to know what things need to be removed from your debloat list if I wanted to keep these Amazon apps?

- Appstore

- Prime Video

- Shop Amazon

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ComputerTech312:
Hm, is there a way or application thay anyone knows of that i can use to compare the Fire launcher and Nova launcher? trying to prove to a friend of the speed comparison.

Thanks in advanced
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ComputerTech312:
Okay thanks Falcon342, the following screenshot was what i mean't, like it shows that Nova launcher uses 13% CPU, and i was wondering if i could find what CPU fire launcher uses, as it's very difficult to tell the difference between both, but my friend wanted "number" statistics :/ hope there is a solution lol

Thanks in advanced again :D

EDIT:

one more thing (sorry for being a pain to you all lol) i disabled fire keyboard, but gboard still seems slower when popping up comparing to the fire keyboard, is this because it's third party? :/ because in custom keyboard option on Fire Toolbox, i tried swiftkey keyboard, and it's much faster, but i prefer gboard, can gboard be added to that list perhaps?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ComputerTech312:
Using Speed BOOSTER, i'm not sure if it's the best app for it, how would you check CPU usage?

Btw out of curiosity, which launcher do you use/prefer?

I'm trying nova and lawnchair, lawnchair seem's to be using less Resources so far according to Speed BOOSTER.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] LaMpiR:
I dont have a kids account. I have two grown ups :D

Tried running everything once more when I logged into her account, but nothing.

Will probably send it back and get a Samsung A7 because I need multiple users.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ComputerTech312:
Okay Falcon342, did some poking around, and found

top

and

top -p pid

7409 u0_a199 10 -10 1.0G 105M 71M S 19.0 10.7 5:42.07 ch.deletescape.lawnchair.ci

but it can spike up to 40-50% CPU usage, do you think that's normal for this? btw is this becoming off topic? or is it ok? :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ComputerTech312:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S[%CPU] %MEM TIME+ ARGS

5076 u0_a137 10 -10 998M 137M 101M S 0.0 14.0 0:41.18 com.amazon.firelauncher

comparing to lawnchair, fire launcher uses double to triple the CPU usage on average, which is crazy, eh? :/

EDIT:

Statistics for users:

Peak CPU usage of Fire launcher

80-120% CPU

Peak CPU usage of Lawnchair

50-60%

Will test nova in a few. :p
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Just to stick my nose in, isn't judging an app's CPU usage just by it's peak usage an unreliable way to measure performance? I would think that it's average CPU usage over time would be a better indicator of how much of a CPU hog it is. An app may peak very high, but only for a few clock cycles and then go back low. Another app may not hit nearly as high in CPU usage, yet remain at that level for quite some time, making it the bigger CPU hog.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ComputerTech312:
True blaacksheep, i'll go create some average CPU statistics
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] ComputerTech312:
Okay, so i got adb shell setup, left is lawnchair and right is fire launcher.

bandicam 2021-07-10 01-11-21-786.mp4

drive.google.com

On the fire 7, i simply swiped up and down on the home screen, and the fire launcher used much more CPU% as you can see, lmk what you all thank :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mike984:
I love Fire Toolbox!

I'm interested in using Lean Launcher but I don't see it listed in the custom launcher selection box. Am I restricted to just the launchers shown in Fire Toolbox? Will it be possible to use another launcher from Play Store or are we recommended to stick with the launchers shown in Fire Toolbox?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Surface36:
I have successfully installed the toolbox but I have a problem/question. I am using Win7 and when I try to remove an app the toolbox cannot be expanded. I can tick the boxes I want to remove but cant see a box to go any further. Is there any way to make the Toolbox full screen ? I have a Fire 10hd (2019)

thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] loveyoulovemetn:
Hi there, anyone knows what is this error? Can't instal GG services, others can be installed
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] lewmur:
If you READ the thread, you find that this has been mentioned more than once. Just run the install again. In fact, you might have to run it several times.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
Yes. You can install another launcher from the play store as you would on your phone or other android device. I specifically tried installing Lean Launcher on my HD 10 (2019) and it appeared to work fine. (YMMV) The Toolbox has disabled the Amazon Launcher and now you are free to install (almost) any launcher you'd like.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] maven33:
Has anyone ever had the problem that some apps (from the Playstore) no longer start (not even after reinstallation)?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
The Toolbox application is not resizable, unfortunately. The problem you seem to be having is that not all of the text or options appear within the text box on your screen. If this is the case, it's probably because you have your text size set to large or some other non-default size. Unfortunately, the Toolbox doesn't work too well like that. Your options are to change the text size of your screen or to create another Windows account on your computer, leave the default text size, and install the Toolbox in your new account.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I haven't, but it may have something to do with your debloat list. You may have inadvertently disabled something Google or Amazon needs running in order to work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] maven33:
I haven't used the apps in a long time, so I can't tell if it worked before the list. But yes, maybe ...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
That's all I can think of. I haven't run a debloating script on mine. I just manually disabled most of the Amazon apps. I haven't been too aggressive in my debloating, I just wanted it to work better than stock.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] maven33:
This was my mistake, I found the problem. It is not something from the list, but a leftover from testing.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Surface36:
Hi blackshhep. I had my text set to 124%, changed it to 100% and all was good. Able to see the options and removed the unwanted apps. Thanks for your help
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] musbasura:
Thanks for the help alas I did all the suggestions for number 1 and it still doesn't work could it be because I have other apps that draw over other apps?

2. Worked out perfectly!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
I decided to start again from scratch and factory reset the device before you wrote this post. This time I did not use the full debloat file but used the Standard debloat from the drop-down. Everything went well and is working except for the Android Calendar Widget. The underlying or mother app, Android Calendar, is installed, works, and has all its data. But the widget setup doesn't display any sub-calendars from which to select which always appear when I setup the widget on my Nexus 7s. And I've tried numerous calendar widgets from the Play Store with the same result. I've been reticent about "re-enabling Calender and Contacts" because that's Amazon stuff. Can I backup everything before I do that and restore if it fails again. If so how?

Thanks again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] blaacksheep:
I don't believe enabling the Amazon Calendar app or Contacts apps will harm or remove any of your data in Google's Calendar app so I think you're safe to try it.

It might just be that Amazon has removed the necessary API's from FireOS for the widgets to work fully. Many people have widget problems on these tablets so you might just be SOL. (And there's the backup function in Toolbox, but it seems to be marginal as to what it can back up.)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] jhford:
OK, I'll try your suggestion. BTW, I have added several other widgets to Nova Launcher on the tablet and the Calendar Widget is the only one that doesn't work.

Thanks again

[EDIT] No luck. Maybe it's caused by some other Amazon undisabled app.