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[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
I DO have the Octoplus box, and that was my intention, to flash (cross-flash) to the EM model, then try to unlock it using LG Dev website. The problem arose when validating the IMEI, this matched the Sprint device (which it truly is as this is/was a Sprint model) so LG wouldn't allow it to unlock. We are still looking for exploits to achieve this. Unfortunately this piss poor decision by LG, will be the end of LG. LG will be yet, another forgotten has-been mobile manufacturer. If they do not allow us to unlock the bootloaders, NO ONE will BUY or LEASE LG, this will END LG!! By this one, dumbass decision (disallowing bootloaders to unlock) will be the final straw for any user looking for a new phone and ROOT/AOSP. They will see LG prevents this, ignore the LG, and buy something else. LG will be gone, why they dont see it is beyond me but it is a true shame. The G7 is phenomenal in hardware, but lack of AOSP, turns me right off! If I had known this then, I would have never gone LG, NO WAY!
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] maydayind:
Actualy 99% of all. Users dont care about root or unlocked
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
If that were true, there would be no chitter chatter on the XDA ROMs/KERNELS development side. You do realize there are threads after threads of development, right? We cannot develop or build open source applications without unlocking the bootloaders so your comment is entirely not true from my point of view. Maybe to a standard Android user, it may be true and standard users may not care of ROOT but us Android developers, we DO care. But to each his/her own, some do not care about ROOT while the majority of us, DO. The majority of us wish to run AOSP, this cannot happen with a locked bootloader. We dont have to debate the ROOT/non-ROOT topic, thats a waste of time in my book. I cant live without ROOT and AOSP, so to me, there is no point in Android with a locked bootloader and no ROOT.

I also find it funny, you post on MANY ROOT forum threads so to make a comment like 99% of users dont care about ROOT, made me laugh after seeing all your posts :)

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This decision will be the nail in the coffin and will kill LG if they wish to remain under the locked bootloader model. Sales are terrible as it is, and is only getting worse. Check the statistics before you reply, LG sales are horrible, locking the bootloader only hurts those sales, not help.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] maydayind:
If we say that 50% of all mobile users use Android...

To be fair its mor.

But then take in mind the register users on xda.

We are just a wierd bunch of 1% of all the global Android users..

Most of my frienda are developers engeners and programmers. Im the only one running a rooted phone.

(i even removed root and relocked my g7 yeasturday)

Get over. It
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
LOL ok buddy, you're the one arguing after making such a silly statement when you, yourself are active in the ROOT forums discussing ROOT then saying 99% of users DONT USE ROOT! That was my problem with the comment, other than that, IDC, to each his own.

All I am saying is, I wish I/we (owners of LG G7) had the option to unlock and re-lock the bootloader as you did. That is my issue, we should have the right to do so if/when we choose to lock/unlock the bootloader, not LG!
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] maydayind:
Now days with safty-net. Root is outwayd with not being able to play games and banking apps.

Not worth it anymore and stockroms are beter then thay have ever been.

Not saying unloock/root is usless. Not just worh it all anymore
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
I do agree, stock ROMs are better now than ever but still bloatware is horrendous on the Sprint flavor. There is so much bloat, its sickening, plus I cant disable the apps, or freeze those horrendous apps without ROOT. That plus lack of tethering and the ability to backup the devices on a partition-level (TWRP) is more than enough for the bootloader/ROOT needs in my book.

If I could remove the bloat, elevate SUDO root for safe ROOT operations, and enable tethering, maybe I could survive the LG device but without the bootloader, but the way it is now, is unusable other than a heavy phone. I use ROOT for far more than just that though, I also move data on a scripted basis for my day job (Sr. Engineer) for multiple web.services for traders, those custom apps ONLY work on a rooted device so this is ALSO affecting my day job.

I also noticed you were a heavy MAGISK user, that was allowing me to bypass ROOT detection on my HTC 10 (previous device until it died) and safetynet. I am not sure if its still working but when it was, it was great, I had root but apps didnt know.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] doiutzu:
+1
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] kChemical:
Very very unfortunate. LG does not and will not care anytime soon and as you said, that's their downfall. They truly dug their own grave, but in all honesty, it does not seem like they care at all considering they made no profit off of the G7 (it was almost a cancelled project lmfao). It really is the end for LG flagships.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] Inerent:
This is our hope: jin@lge.com

Let's create here a custom message first and then everyone of sending each day the same message.

"Dear LG,

We are the LG G7 owner's community from XDA. We are verry unsatisfied with your policy about software updates/unlocking bootloader and firmwares/models fragmentations.

We have some requests:

1.

2.

3.

Let's do together this email template.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] Joe199799:
You seem to rely so heavily on root and AOSP why wouldn't you look up a phone to see if it had root before purchasing it. I know your HTC 10 died so I guess you needed a phone ASAP but I mean still a quick Google at Sprint to see if it was possible before grabbing the phone. I rely on root enough to that I'm carrying around a second phone that is rooted but I mean this phone is alright with out it. And the dude you were arguing with is right were a niche market and barely any company caters to us. LG, Samsung, hell even Google turned us away by killing the Nexus line. You have basically one plus or a few other Chinese companies that are still cool with it. You act like it's the end of the world that they won't allow the bootloader to be unlocked it's not. the average user (people just going into a store and buying it based off such and such feature or it's the newest phone out) don't think about root or even knows it exists. The only reason you can unlock the bootloader on the European version of the G7 is because it's mandated by law. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve on flagship phones hell dude the process for samfail is ridiculously difficult like enough that I wouldnt even attempt it and I've been rooting every phone I've had since my first Android phone with the LG Lucid. And what do you get out of all that effort half root no TWRP no magisk and your battery stops charging at 80%. Or the V30 root from a few months ago that was difficult as hell too. I went on a tangent I apologise for that the main point I was getting at was if you're that heavily invested in root why not buy I don't know a one plus one of two for 100-150$ and use that until this gets rooted (already know your counterpoint to that is going to be that you shouldn't have to, you're right you shouldn't but that's how it is and there's nothing we can do about it)
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
I did look it up, quite a bit beforehand, the phone I needed to get (rootable), Sprint didn't have and would not EVER be getting in stock again. I was down a phone and with a sick daughter, I needed a phone so I was forced into getting the G7 after much protest. The Sprint salesman pressured me into the G7 as my only option. I'm not blaming him for doing his job but me for getting myself into that situation.

I blame LG for the bootloader lock issue and Sprint for lack of updates, I'm still in Nov 2018 but most of all, I blame myself for getting a device that has no root when my HTC 10 split in half. In case you haven't looked or needed a new Sprint phone, there's very little choices. I planned to leave Sprint when my lease was up (which it was 2 weeks prior to the failure of my 10 when it split) but that didn't work out because of the phone need to keep in touch with my kids.

Yes we might be a niche group but there's enough of us to matter to companies like LG. Lock the bootloader and lose customers, lose enough and you're out of business!
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] Joe199799:
I'm sorry I didn't fully understand the situation, but LG is a multi billion dollar company I don't see them going out of business anytime soon, Samsung and LG basically run the TV industry, LG is terrible with phones but they are still going to pump them out, they don't care if you, me or anybody on XDA refuses to buy another LG phone. We make up maybe a tenth if not less of the sales. And why not Samsung Sprint had the S8 and I believe the S9 around the time this came out which both have/had samfail available to them.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
I believe you with the LG/TV point but not LG / Mobile. The sales are so bad, I don't foresee a future for the mobile game and LG. I also don't see the actual company (LG) going under, sorry, I didn't mean that, I mean the mobile part to LG will go under. This will happen, they also said blackberry was the market leader, now they're barely alive with activesync taking over so it happens. I know all too well about blackberry and their demise, I also ranted to their support about activesync when BB was still relevant, long before they died but they ignored me as MS/activesync took over, and now BB/RIM is nothing what it used to be. This is what happens when they don't listen to customers and stay up with the latest.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] pottopissin:
I just want to say this....

I always buy international models....plain and simple. (root/unlock)

Whether its LG or Samsung....but now Im finally waking up and now its an iphone or a google phone....period.

OS/security updates plus the freaking gcam.....fast and on time. No need for bull**** waiting times...
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
I would have to agree with you on this point! Unfortunately for me, I was in a corner and had no choice BUT to buy from Sprint, and of course the ONLY Android option other than some old old junk or even worse, iCrap, so I was stuck with the G7. If I had known now, what I knew then, NEVER would I have gotten an LG, no freaking way! Updates are horribly slow (still on Oreo, November 2018 security) and the lack of bootloader support! I freaking HATE LG! Piece of trash in my opinion, nothing more than a pretty paperweight used as only a phone.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] veverone:
I don't really get it.

1. Why do you need the latest security update?

2. Where you affected by the bugs the latest updates supposedly protect you from?

3. What was improved/fixed in the latest security updates?

4. Which features of android 9 do you need (be specific, please)?

5. Do you honestly think your life would be different with the latest security update and android 9?

It's just a phone that gives you a worry free life (no bugs, no fiddling), so just enjoy it.

Also, for the money of G7, you had plenty of very good alternatives. For example, Xiaomi A1 is 150 dollars without any contract and it has "pure" android .

I guess everyone is eager to hear your answers to the (reasonable) questions above. This is a forum, right? So, lets talk!
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] dami00976:
Delete
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] mingaldrichgan:
I can't speak for OP but some companies enforce strict compliance policies for employees to access corporate email on their mobile devices, including up-to-date security patches. For some people, being able to send and receive email on their personal Android phones (e.g. instead of having to carry two separate phones or log onto their corporate VPN constantly when they are out of the office) can make a huge difference on their quality of life.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] pottopissin:
<mod edit>

What about things like patching bugs/issues that impact the overall stability of said Os plus the freaking amout of $$$ spent on said flagship...and not getting the updates in time one needs to keep said device safe and secure....
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] veverone:
<mod edit>

Neither of you have said anything conclusive, from personal perspective, you basically did not answer the questions.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] woodman:
Thread edited a bit.

Hey guys,

if you could stop arguing this manner, bad language, disrespectful comments and such, please lower the tone a bit, respect other members and follow the XDA forum rules.

Remember this?

https://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?a=81

You can absolutely ask questions, answer them, give your opinion on the topic but you have to do it a friendly manner, any time.

Thanks

Wood Man

Senior Moderator
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
I think I can help you with rooting your phone but that will mean that you need to go to EU firmware.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
NP, I have octoplus but would need to unlock bootloader. I tried official method but wasn't supported. Let me know
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
If you only want AOSP then it can be a bit hard to install it and a lot riskier (maybe octopus will save you but I'm not sure what exactly it can). If you want to risk it can you pm me or join the g7 telegram chat?

Edit: the link is in the TWRP post
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
Hell I would be happy with just ROOT, that's my biggest issue. I can live with the OS if I had root to fix the stock OS. AOSP would be the ultimate goal but I would be happy with just ROOT.

I'm in jury duty at the moment but let me know what is needed from my side to gain ROOT. What are your steps?
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
The plan is to just make a system image with root. Of course that means no magisk but you will have SuperSU. You only need to install an EU kdz and the image that I will send you through LG up or octopus if possible.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iSZdDrfL5cE6pIj8GffsXG6JRO6kUbf0/view?usp=drivesdk

EU kdz with January patch
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
Awesome, I'll test it this week! I am a LONG time SuperSU user so no worries there. I will wait for your image then flash through octoplus LG.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] bilrage:
That rom work on any lg g7? And is it need to have unlock bootloader to install the image you're talking? (Srry if my english is bad)
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] dami00976:
How will this work? I already have my sprint lg g7 converted to EU.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] maydayind:
How did u manage to repack a kdz ang get it Signed?
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
The same as installing pie kdz on a non Korean g7 but rather than flashing a kdz a single partition can also be flashed

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No need for kdz :)

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It should work but still no 100% sure
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] maydayind:
Lg upp wont accept unsigned... Am i missing somthing
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
LG up doesn't care if you're using partition dll
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] maydayind:
So u are saying u discoved a universal root method
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] dami00976:
Does the Korean Pie version work for US?
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] dexx121:
Everything works for me, except cell calls. Mobile data works, but no calls.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] mr3p:
congrats, you converted your cell phone into mini tablet ;)
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] maydayind:
Can u make a separat thred with instructions how to do this.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] dexx121:
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
I'm ready with my image. Do you have Discord or telegram or something else? I just want to get a quick contact with you if something goes wrong (even though theoretically it shouldn't but stuff like that always happens). I also have to point out that it will take a bit of time and you will definitely lose your data in the process. Just mention me or pm me whenever you have time.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] dami00976:
I can also give it a go if it's OK with you
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
Also works. What model do you have?
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] dami00976:
I have the sprint lg g7 converted to unlock latest firmware... I also have the EM firmware but i cant seem to convert it.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] dexx121:
You will be receiving a lot of requests for this one... Add me to the list if you please. :fingers-crossed:
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
I only need one person to test it if it works. If it works I will make a thread with instructions of how to do it.

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What do you mean with "converted to unlock". You mean for the Sim card bands or?
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] dami00976:
G710LM10q thats the firmware im on... But i try to install G710EM10q but doesent convert. It boots and works but on phone system and lg up it shows LM not EM
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
Thats normal and it should be like that but its kinda concerning that its no more your original model.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] dami00976:
If by model you mean sprint, I was never going to use it on sprint
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
Change in plans, it turns out the image i made wont work but at least im sure that there is a way to run modified system images.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] dexx121:
It's still progress. Great to see someone working on this.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] kChemical:
I have the LG G710PM converted to the G710ULM on the September patch. I am very grateful to hear that there is progress being made for root and possibly other system modifications, if any type of magic happens I would highly appreciate a tutorial in the future!

Waiting for pie as well :(
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
no worries, I back everything up, I format my /data all the time when I had AOSP. You dont need to worry about me losing data, I fully expected to format /DATA.

PM me and I will send you my WhatsApp.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
I'm really sorry but I tested it quickly and it turns out that it doesn't work. STILL it's possible to do that but not with the image I intended. I will look more into it before I test again.

A longer version of what's going on is that as from Android 6 or 7 there is some kind of verification process that doesn't include su when booting. I also don't understand it but i think it's possible to remove it. Also I was busy with porting the pie vendor to AOSP (because LG :D)

Edit: the "exploit" is still there I just made a bad system image
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
Cool! Glad its progress forward, ping me when you're ready for a test :) I can flash normal .tots or .oct with Octoplus LG so whatever is easiest to build! I myself prefer AOSP so if it is possible for an AOSP image, even better, but I will test anything to help gain ROOT and unlocked bootlodaers, so let me know.
[LG G7 ThinQ  Guides, News, & Discussion] LameMonster82:
Its not going to be as magical as an unlock for the bootloader. Also its not going to be a tot or even a kdz file. Instead the idea is to use partition dll (a feature in lg up) to flash individual partitions (in this case sthe system one).

Also i have an idea to completly forget about lg system and go straight to AOSP. Yesterday i finally fixed the real pie vendor to work with AOSP and its almost bugless (the led will flash blue or it can also be completely disabled). Still i have to test it before saying anything.

About root. Really no one today uses system based root and eveyrone moved to a boot based one. We cant replace (or modify) boot one because vbmeta and we cant replace (or modify) vbmeta because of the bootloader check. Im not sure if vendor is protected but if its not that will make my life much easier. Also maybe phh root will work but i actually never used it.

Still this is a little post about my plans but i cant promise anything since i havent tested it and everything is a theory. Also i will test it on my phones since now i dont have to reinstall my whole phone.
[Huawei P10 Guides, News, & Discussion] fr3ker:
How to know the path to the recovery_ramdisk?? Is all devices the same?? I didn't get it right the 1st time .. it shows path is invalid
[Huawei P10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jannomag:
Should be the same on every device. Remember, case sensitive and use _ and not -.

Maybe it's different on non UFS devices, which one do you have?

Are you able to post a screenshot of your command and output?
[Huawei P10 Guides, News, & Discussion] M1chiel:
Maybe [MENTION=4604088]fr3ker[/MENTION] is not on Oreo? The recovery_ramdisk partition is only for Oreo. In Nougat it is just called recovery. I don't know how the Pie partitions are called.
[Huawei P10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jannomag:
Also my thought, I wanted to add this to the requirements when I created this post but apparently I forgot this. Now it's added as first point.
[Huawei P10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NowLearn:
Hi.

I have a hard bricked p10. When I connect to laptop it's says USB SER. It doesn't not turn on I can't access recovery with power + vol. I can't get into fastboot. Anyway I can access fastboot to flash kernel and erecovery?
[Huawei P10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lukastob:
Is it mandatory to flash stock recovery before update? Is it applies only to ota update or ff method?
[Huawei P10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jannomag:
Yes, FF or OTA are using stock recovery to flash the update. With TWRP it won't work.
[Huawei P10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Blümchen Blau:
Updated?

@ Jannomag:

Have you checked this for Pie meanwhile?

I currently have the problem, not being able to enter fastboot with:

sudo adb reboot bootloader

Additionally, there's something I do not understand. For the dd-command for flashing, why is the input-file (if=) the file in "/dev/block/platform/..." and the output on the sd-card? Wouldn't mean flashing an img to the device, that if= on the sd (or connected PC) and of= the path to the device (phone)?
[Huawei P10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jannomag:
WTF....Why didn't I notice this terrible mistake! Thank you for reading my post completely, you're 100% correct, I'll correct this directly after I submit this post.

Huawei did also a small change at naming the recovery partition, which I'll update, too.

I had also the problem that I wasn't able to boot into fastboot by command before I fried my phone - I couldn't figure out the reason for this.

Again, thank you!
[Huawei P10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Blümchen Blau:
Your'e welcome! I did update now, but didn't need your (correct :D) way to fastboot, because the method described by borgerapper did the trick for me to get into fastboot and flash the needed original recovery.

Thanks anyway!