yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frasbyte:
Make No Mistake

i do not know nor have i ever met this poster, and if he thinks my idea is plausible then i thanks him. now on to other matters; as for the guy who spoke of porting the WM6 ARM9 processor to the iphones ARM11 there has never been a time when a OS complained of having too much resources as i dont think that would be a problem. if you search the threads and read my original post you would see that i threw out a hypothetical and asked if it was possible and then asked if (and gave praises to the intelligence) anyone could do it. then i spoke of dual booting the iphone and provided links where the iphone has been partitioned, jailbreaked and running 2firmware, heck i even threw in a firmware builder link so if anyone just wanted to modify a iphone firmware to be WM6 then they could do that; again all i see you doing is swapping the system files, Mac HD for windows folder etc.

REMEMBER IT WAS A HYPOTHETICAL
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frasbyte:
Make No Mistake

i do not know nor have i ever met this poster, and if he thinks my idea is plausible then i thank him. now on to other matters; as for the guy who spoke of porting the WM6 ARM9 processor to the iphones ARM11 there has never been a time when a OS complained of having too much resources as i dont think that would be a problem. if you search the threads and read my original post you would see that i threw out a hypothetical and asked if it was possible and then asked if (and gave praises to the intelligence) anyone could do it. then i spoke of dual booting the iphone and provided links where the iphone has been partitioned, jailbreaked and running 2firmware, heck i even threw in a firmware builder link so if anyone just wanted to modify a iphone firmware to be WM6 then they could do that; again all i see you doing is swapping the system files, Mac HD for windows folder etc.

REMEMBER IT WAS A HYPOTHETICAL
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fzzyrn:
i have to join the BS camp. the least this guy could do would be to put a vid on a private tracker then link to it via tinyurl or something like that. and we could pm him for the torrent info
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] HostileJava:
I'm not going to comment either way on the plausibility of the topic of this thread, but I would like to point out that I can think of several legacy MS OS's that would not run on newer hardware without a patch or just would not run right at all.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frasbyte:
i posted this a few days ago...

y'all just bastardizing my idea...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2149033
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frasbyte:
Read The Original

as i said i was taking a shot in the dark when i proposed the idea, but i did provide research and said nothing of the validity of the subject in question
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Gustopher:
Cynical

Perhaps I am just getting old and cynical, but in my experience most individuals who have risen to any kind of high office or have been successful in business to the degree that our friend suggests have actually mastered the basics of spelling and punctuation.

I have to remind my 11 year old son to remember paragraphs, capital letters and apostrophes - I would expect better from the owner of a 'Computer Prog. Company in Kingsport TN that doe sub contract work for Sony Inc.'
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] michd43:
ok has anyone pm him and gotta any pics or a video sent to your email? This all sounds like BS to me
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] robp:
No one is trying flame you frasbyte (well, I'm not), but the fact is your idea is highly unlikely to ever happen. I won't say it's impossible, but the chances of it happening are slim to none.

There are several reasons why, chief among them is that Apple is Apple and we have no detailed information on the iPhone's internals. People need to be able to write drivers for every peice of hardware on the iPhone in order to port WinMo to it, and I don't see that happening ever.

Consider this: why do you think you don't see many WinMo phones getting linux ported on to them? Because it's too hard to write new drivers. And people probably won't be too eager to brick a thousand iPhones just to figure out how to put Windows on it. The cool factor isn't high enough if you ask me.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] HostileJava:
Huh? I'm not sure I even know what your referring to at this point.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TechRev_Admin86:
THANKS!

I just received 3 videos. One six min. & two at three min. Give or take a few seconds, but this thing seems credible. I own a chinese knock personally which I use on GSM. It would be hard to fake the videos I received. The detail was very in depth, going over software, internal hardware, and even giving the serial numbers. Also give the guys personal phone number, which I find would be non sense if it were a fake. If your serious, ask the guy. Why would he send them to people who cant even support the idea alone.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] l3v5y:
At this point, I wouldn't say it's impossible, but I'd like to see some form of proof before I believe it/try to offer my help in any way. If you want to send me proof, my email address is on my profile http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=607275
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] varanusvincent:
Could someone release it on youtube? or give a share link to prove it

I would like to know, if it's working.

But I think, it "could" be possible. But I need a prof

:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] poorlyduck:
I believe till I see it, but also I believe it could be possible, if there is away to install xp or vista in a Apple Mac http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/04/boot-camp-tutorial-install-windows-xp.html then who knows maybe some genius found away how to do it in apple Iphone.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fzzyrn:
send it to me too. check my profile

<winmo fanboy>but why would anybody even WANT to ruin their winmo phone with iphone stuff</winmo fanboy>
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aksd:
frasbyte,

ARM9 to ARM11 is not just "more" resources but two different architectures one is ARM5 and another is ARM6, if you want to run an OS it HAS to be compiled for that particular architecture, you cant run WM6 for an intel processor on a Qualcomm processor, the only way is if someone developed a virtual machine. Also the boot loader comes in to the picture, to boot two "different" types of OSs you'd need the boot loader sources of the iPhone, you can boot different instances of the same firwmare that will not affect the boot loader, but to run a compeltely different platform you need to get the bootloader to recognise the existence of that platform on the system.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rhov23:
Follow the golden calf...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] VirgilWoods:
No offense, but why would he send it to someone with no credibility on these forums? 4 posts doesn't say much about you..

Then again, I probably have 4 myself, I've been lurking through the boards for a year..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] robp:
You can install windows on a Mac because Macs these days use the same hardware as PC's (x86 architecture). Also, Apple sells software to allow dual booting (Bootcamp, that's from apple, right?) on their machines.

I'd also like to point out that iPhone != macbook. Dual booting a macbook is totally different from an iPhone.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WhatzinyourphonE:
Ok this topic is exciting and all. An iphone able to run apple software, and Microsoft software? If it is true, why and how is this useful? I'll still follow this to see if and what turns up about this crazy "Potentially" true/fake, rumor? But will you need an iphone to do this? Why not just buy an iphone? either way im going to get an iphone regardless. I actually didnt think these two threads would cause so much interest! Lol!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Dc_striker:
well you dont need boot camp to dual boot

but i dont believe you can dual boot on a iphone
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JokeZony0u:
i still say he types like the first guy, he's probably the 2nd person i've seen on this forum who doesn't know what paragraphs are
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] varanusvincent:
its getting weird...:):)

If I dont see any proof. I wont believe it.

:p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gizmolete:
go to your room kid!

"TechRev_Admin86" & "Phillips_technology" both are a fake.

Please close this thread there is just a little boy having dreams about owning a company, and inventing phones. Go bed kid.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] flashmp3:
Are you a kind of cop or else. Stop that man !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ranj9119:
Agreed, theres another one called t.Kilgore86 i cant get it whats that 86 at the end!!!! stop this fake spot or give us the proof!!!!! if u have any :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egzthunder1:
AAACHOOOOOO!!!!!!

Sorry guys, I am allergic to bulls*&t!

I mean, come on! Wake Up People!!!! These guys (TechRev and Phillip) are either the same user with two different IDs or two scammers thinking that we are all stupid! Just look at how similar the ID formats are with a "_" in between two words. I am sorry but I don't think that this forum has enough users that one word ID's are all used.

Besides, contract or not, who in their right mind would want to ship this milestone in technology to a complete stranger and expect to get it back "working or not"?

Hey Phillip! Should I also give you all my personal information and send you a wire via Western Union, so that you can give your son who is about to graduate from Cambridge a graduation gift...

Here is a link for someone who might be interested in your offer:

http://www.fbi.gov

Grow Up and Stop Filling our Forums with Crap!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Leechoonhwee:
Unless Iphone is using the same hardware architecture as WM phones else it is impossible!

Which means..... WM phone can also run OSx if tat is the case!!!

Crap? .... Definitely!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] varanusvincent:
One things.

You have succeed to make a lot of people reply the message until 5 pages.

Good job.

If at this forum has user reputation function.

I will give you BAD REPUTATION POINT

With red colour of course. ;)

And you are to stupid pn make a clone.

Noobssss.

Stupid noobs to make a clone.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] l3v5y:
Not necessarily! Vista and OSX10.5 use the same processor architecture but Macs need a DOC to identify them which is why you can't run OSx on a PC! I suspect Apple would probably have implemented something like this in the iPhone if there was even a remote possibility the OS would be portable...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] El Zorro Dorado:
http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/indexpage.php?

I heard that topic u are talking about u can find the proof here
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] macsoft:
Dude WHEN are you living? you CAN run OS X in a PC for a long time. Google for "Hackintosh"

But the iPhone thingy is bull.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JokeZony0u:
I cant believe how long of a thread this has become, seriously, get it over guys, hes a phony until he shows us clear proof of what he says. A phone capable of a dual boot? For those who believes it, continue- be my guess.

Now I don't know the specifics to an iPhone's processor, etc etc, but using the WM6 (for those who do) already you can see the lag it has when you have installed a certain amount of programs on it. Imagine a phone who has 2 OS's on it? Meaning it has both iPhone's OS X and Microsoft's WM6- Now where would you find space to put more programs and prevent a major lag on the system entirely?

BTW, LEARN TO USE PARAGRAPHS
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DaVince:
Possible and definitely real

This is real. I've seen some detailed pictures and flow charts of this on my college friend's laptop last Dec 2007. It's supposed to be just a thesis project of a bunch of guys at MIT. When I was first told about it, they never really used another hardware or attached anything on the iPhone (since that is the difficult part for them). All they did was play around with software. Back then, all I heard was they were able to make it boot to WM5 (Yeah... they were still using WM5 and no, it's not dual boot). But it does not respond to screen taps or anything, it just boots.

Then this last Feb 2008, I've heard that they were able to successfully make it respond to screen taps and even interface to the audio system to emit sound. Everything was still sluggish (like 5-10 frames per second) and it's still unable make phone calls or interface with the radio though, but it's definitely a progress.

So I called my friend to check on the status of their project. And guess what, not only were they able to make it work almost completely, they were even able to successfully have the option to dual boot! My friend said that they bricked a total of 17 iPhones on the project but produced 5 working prototypes (Yeah.. they're filthy rich geniuses). My friend said he's going to come over to show one to me but then my dog barked and I woke up.

LOL.. :D Seriously...

They'll ask you to PM them so they can isolate the gullible ones. Once they get you to really believe them, they'll ask for your credit card or send them money. Textbook scamming.

Come on people! Lock this thread.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] masterdnater:
Tips for asshole scammers

1. Try scamming stupid people instead of tech savvy ppc geeks. (we're not easily swayed by propositions of the near impossible)

2. Get a real job. (If you have to move your scam operation to a ppc developers thread to put dinner on the table, I'm guessing your not making much in this buisness)

3. If you fail at 1 and 2 you could always just do us all a big favor and kill yourself.

best way to acheive #3:

1. Go buy a frizbee

2. Gather up a bunch of friends(or in your case, fellow scammers).

3. Fold the frizbee in half.

4. Swallow the Frizbee.

5. Hope that everyone around cares enough to even muster up a simple "Holy crap, that guy just ate a frizbee!". If not, oh well, your life is pointless anyway.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Aaron McCarthy:
Firstly.. I know nothing at all about the iphone.. I'm from Canada and it STILL isnt available here... at least not through any carrier. We have to get them shipped in from the states unlocked.

That said.. I just did a simple 'Iphone running Windows" in google and it brought me to youtube where I found this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezT2AfUTbHE

If you read the comments below it people seem to think its a clever slideshow or something. I have no idea but thought I would post it here for you guys to check it out. If in fact there was a phone that could run a full version of windows XP smoothly... I'd seriously consider getting it myself!

I'm not going to sit here and talk trash about the guys on here saying they have one that dual boots. I'm not tech savy enough to say boo about it. If you guys say its not real odds are it isnt. But I have the HTC touch vogue and for the last 6 months I have had it all the tech guru's around have been debating whether or not the phone was wifi and gps capable. Untill this week it was still debated. Alltell in the states finally released a rom update that allowed the GPS to activate. So.. In order to shut someone down completly may be presumtious. Again... I dont know anything about the internal workings of the Iphone though. But just thought it was interesting that there has been a years worth of trash talk over people asking "does the CDMA touch have gps?" and all the "tech guys saying.. no way no how.. when.. here we are!

I agree though... if these guys want to prove that its real just post a picture. You arent breaking the law by showing people what you have. If you are seriously afraid that you'll get thrown in jail for showing us proof then what do you do.. keep the phone in your pocket and when it rings go run and hide so no one seems what you are using? Seems a little radiculous to me. I would assume your lawyer would tell you the same thing. So please... end the debate and just show us something
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eurotech:
aight, first, the "86" in his name is the year he/she was born "1986"... second, bull****, you got no proof, you discuss things with your lawyer with that kind of grammar? and you got your own company? if you really make softwares for playstation then go ahead, show us your company profile, portfolio etc... some credentials will do, but until now.. its a freakin bul...

no offense, i just want to "gelp".. :):):)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Slayer23:
no comment....

what the f*ck drives you guys, to even consider bullsh*t stuff like this possible? ....... really, wake up :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] duke911:
I thought this thread would has been closed by now!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WhatzinyourphonE:
Weird thread...

Cooool! this is fun, im gonna set back, make some popcorn and just watch this exciting little show. There is some good points being made. True, how hasent this been removed, post something about anything else and it gets shut down in a heartbeat! "Maybe its apple spies trying to see if anyone would do something like this! This sites is bugged!! Lol!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] VirgilWoods:
It doesn't run XP, it is sorta doing a remote desktop thing. I've seen people play World of Warcraft on their iPhone, but it was remotely displaying the images from their main computer.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheChampJT:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!! Wooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egzthunder1:
Not even considering the comments, if you look carefully, there is no animation from the suppossed OS. That clearly looks like a slideshow...

There is always a chance that something like this is possible. Here are some other things that are remotely possible:

* Bush fixing the economy,

* Ron Paul being elected as president,

* Reviving dinosaurs by extracting fossilized DNA from a giant mosquito perfectly preserved in amber,

* A pig flying in front of a blue moon (thanks deedee!)

Can we close this already? I'll have to admit that flaming spammers is fun though :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheChampJT:
Yeah as far as the video goes, "Oh, uh yeah, I'm already logged in to save time" and "It's already running parallel to save time" Is he really saving time or BS'n you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonegiven:
you = pole-smoker supreme
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mchapman007:
Wait, this hasn't happened already?

Don't forget to add; * HTC releasing drivers. (Maybe Apple already has! Who has that video?)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] salahnajm:
Ok gentleman. My friend has a dual boot cell phone. On first boot its a regular phone and on second boot its a swissarmy phone. I dont specialize in programming but if u reside in the US or canada send me ur info and a big check and I'm willing to send it to you for more testing... if u dont beleive me I attached a pic

"Im sorry to any non senior member but i dont wana email a video to an attorney. So post your thoughts but only serious requests for more Photos."

:D:D:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DaVince:
This is another hoax, a swiss army knife does not have a fork, pen and a comb! :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] agovinoveritas:
I have a thermonuclear powered Iphone running Linux, which is in turn running a virtual machine environment which in turn is running WM2003 -- which I have made to look like XP. Not Vista because it is not pretty stable and I hate running those patches on a touch screen. Damn you VISTA!

I have made videos, taken pictures and even had a dog leak it, so you can see that the dog is real. I will send it to you but only if you print, read, agree, sign and return a contract which is in no way shape or form could stand in a court of law, so it is only used to make my sca--, er, this great piece of kit sound doable.

You won't regret it, it is like having two Crays working flawlessly in your hand!!

I take Visa, MasterCard and if you are in the US, Discovery. What are you waiting for?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fzzyrn:
do you take paypal? haha.

just my personal opinion here, but linux isn't automatically good because it's free or open source. Especially when people try running wm2003 in a virtual machine with an xp shell. next thing you know somebody will be running garnet in a virtual machine with a symbian emulator that acts as a virtual machine for wm2003 that has a virtual machine for xp that is skinned to look like vista.

conclusion: epic fail
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Aaron McCarthy:
In regards to the youtube video... Like I said.. wasnt sure WHAT it was.. but after going through a bunch of videos on youtube titled "iphone running windows" most of them are just running a remote desktop. My point was merely (by playing the devils advocate here) Who the hell knows what electronic wizards are capable of. Like I said with my phone (HTC Touch Vogue) it was debated for a year whether or not the phone even had a gps antenna. Tech people would open it up and scratch there head. Then this week.. BAM.. gps support. Who knows maybe in a month there will be a flood of iphones running windows.. Probably not, haha but still would be a pretty neat idea if it was possible.

Still incredibly suspicious that these guys havn't posted a single video or picture. And theres no news anywhere else online about it. If I somehow got windows running on an Iphone I would have it plastard everywhere on the internet myself. But that's just me. Maybe there are some people out there that want to keep something that could potentionally make them a ton of cash to themselves. I call those people idiots. Without of course labeling these guys on here idiots. From my understanding it wasnt even the guys who are posting who made it right? So why would they be legally liable for posting a picture. It's a picture!!! If these guys want to stop being reemed out from people ALL over the world then take my advice and just show some proof.

And thats my 2 cents!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheChampJT:
OMG! This entire page has made me laugh my A$$ off!!!!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LGSilva:
Probably they're using grub to dual boot.

(Just my 0.02 so I can say "of course it was a hoax, I knew all along")
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] agovinoveritas:
Yeah, but are they thermonuclear powered? I can almost guarantee that your hands, legs, brain or penis --depending where you leave this amazing unit nearby-- to fall off due to radiation poisoning. Can anyone else make that quality no-exception guarantee? I think not!

Yeah, I got paypal now. Mail to "Iscammugoode."
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JokeZony0u:
wow, considering this isn't a serious thread- O btw, anyone notice the thread starter hasn't said a single word anymore? - this thread is lasting pretty darn long, tho I could use one of those phone swiss army knives..and the nuclear powered phone sounds great as long as it doesn't melt any of my body parts

O YEA! Btw, did you know that the word "Gullible" was taken out of the dictionary?