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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] denisval:
Another "clear your GSF to force the update"-thread, this will end well ?

Guys, i've been on this update for a week. Received it at once when it was available. It's not that big a deal. And most definitely not enough of a big deal to be doing stupid stuff like this. Has no one learned from the past? Clearing GSF is probably going to ruin your Android experience at some point. You'll have to reformat your device and start over. All of that to gain a couple of days?

Good luck with the "Help, I cleared GSF and now my phone is buggy"-threads guys ??
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] quetzalcoatl2435:
Not to mention all the **** of "I've lost LTE OMG Xiaomi sucks b*lls".

Well, maybe they did a staged release for specific regions that aren't affected by the loss of LTE bands?

Anyhoo, the purpose of a staged release is to wait for any feedback in case they've missed some bugs before releasing it worldwide. So yeah, if you force an update meant for another region and you lost something, it's on you, not Xiaomi.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] denisval:
Man this update and the way people are so impatient to get it is the funiest thing i've seen happen here in a long while. It's like they all forgot the lessons they learned in the past. It's hilarious.

Sitting here with my popcorn, waiting for the "i ruined my phone, pls help, xiaomi is a bad company"-threads to start ?

The best thing is, apart from a slight increase in battery life, I notice little to no difference compared to Oreo. The UI changed, that's true but Oreo was smooth and stable and everyone knows by now that LTE is ruined for some people and still others think it's a good idea to use these stupid ideas to force the update. It's like seeing 10 people fall into a deep hole and then deciding to jump in after them.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] arc4d14n:
To start? They started last week! They problem is that mostly all that updated this way expect everything to be perfect, I was one of the guys who lost LTE but I knew that bugs would be there, instead of whining about it, we try to warn in base of experience to others and people keep on "it works for me, to do it too" so I stopped warning and stop helping those who asked for "fix my LTE" damnit there's already two posts with all about it, and are way too lazy to search....
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] moxiot:
Not really sure what you are talking about, there. I lost LTE and I received the update without going through any extra steps. It was an "official update" and they screwed the bands for many users. They messed up the update, big time.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] quetzalcoatl2435:
Where are you located? IIRC, this update was released for NL, and I don't recall seeing any Dutch user complaining about LTE. Could be mistaken, though.

Anyhow, my statement about staged rollout stands. There's a reason why it's not immediately released worldwide. This might be one of them.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] moxiot:
USA. I wish I had known better, and there's a lot of truth in what you are saying, but I have been an Android user since day one and never have I ever seen an official update mess up a phone so badly. Lesson learned.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] quetzalcoatl2435:
I understand how you feel.

This usually doesn't happen with bigger manufacturers like Samsung, but even SONY slips up sometimes with releasing bugged updates.

From my understanding, Xiaomi's dev team is mostly invested in MIUI, so if I might take a guess, they don't have a lot of devs working on AndroidOne devices. Hence more bugged updates than usual.

We could wait for feedback before updating, of course, but if everyone did that, no one would be available to give any feedback. Chicken and egg scenario. ?

Anyway, those who do got the update officially without jumping through hoops and got bugged out should contact Xiaomi directly so they at least know that there's a problem. I'm not so sure they monitor XDA threads looking for bug reports.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
For the final time, there is only 1 update, it's completely irrelevant whether somebody downloaded the update using a VPN or not. We all got the update "officially" because we are all using the official rom and it installed on it. The update is designed for the phone, it installs on the phone. All manufacturers use staged roll outs. Nobody is ever abused for flashing roms from other regions on other devices. It's completely unacceptable for VPN users to be bullied for having the brains to download it early. VPN users have as much right to complain as anybody else - for the simple reason it is an update for their own phone. The moderator of this forum should stamp all over people bullying people for using a VPN. I've read people on here saying there are bound to be bugs. Why? This is an official update from the Google Android one program. I've sat here reading a lot of childish insults and petty comments about vpn users. Enough is enough! Moderator please clean up this thread .
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] quetzalcoatl2435:
https://tweakers.net/nieuws/146853/...over-ontbrekende-4g-na-android-9-upgrade.html

Summary for non-dutch speakers:

A dutch 4g-only carrier threatens to cut off service for non-4g phones, and some A1 users who lost 4g got notified for said offense.

From the comments, I see some reporting that the update has been pulled. Another comments that Xiaomi has contacted him/her for logs, so they're working on a fix.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] barrack1:
There are posts in the xiaomi forum about people losing lte bands from official (non-vpn) updates.

It seems like an obvious problem that the alpha/beta testing should have picked up. I think the update is going to be pulled or delayed for the other regions until it gets fixed.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dior DNA:
fwiw: I compared a beta with an official update and could not spot difference

(I compare unpacked partition images by md5sum)

Of course, I can only compare what others claim it to be.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] moxiot:
thanks!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] drizzt09:
You downloaded a 1st beta release of the OS through a VPN trick and you are blaming them for a poor release? You aren't supposed to have it. That's what betas are for. To iron out the bugs. You want to jump ahead of the line ., Expect bugs

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Samsung breaks **** all the time. Hell even pixels are flawed. They have few internal testers and can't cover all scenarios. They release to a smaller beta who 50% take the update just to have it but don't report anything. Then it rolls out buggy. If you don't want bugs don't take early releases (from anyone). Pre or official. Wait for 2nd or 3rd official. My wife is on pixel 2. First series of phones to get pie and she still hasn't updated.

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There are bugs for software ... Period! The earliest the build the more prone it is. Doesn't matter if Xiaomi or Google. Or Samsung or apple. If you don't like bugs. Don't take first release of anything. Defer it. Wait for 2nd or 3rd. Plain and simple.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] pooyab:
This are the facts and I don't see any reason for argument:

1. Most phone companies have poor update policies and costumer support. including xiaomi

2. Beta release of Pie for MiA1 has some bugs. but It's a beta release and expected to have bugs

3. Xiaomi released the EXACT beta build as an official update for NL and apparently a short time in US. this was a mistake (at best) or pure irresponsibility

4. As an android user, if you trick your phone to update (for example changing region by clearing data and using VPN), YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF AND READY FOR CONSEQUENCES TOO. all you can do is report the issues by MI FEEDBACK, try to revert back, and wait for solutions.

5. XDA is not the official support forum of phone companies. it's a community for Devs and phone enthusiasts. people do their best to support each other here, but it's not their jobs. In this scenario, try to ask Mi for responsibility through Mi forums, Mi feedback app and their own contact ways. In this way, companies would understand the consequences of their laziness and long-term effect of poor costumer support on their sales.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
You've hit the nail on the head - "people do their best to support people". The recent behaviour of some people here proves it is in fact the opposite. Unfortunately this is often what xda has become nowadays. A place for slagging people off or bullying. When I first joined years ago the moderators wouldn't stand for any of this. Nowadays however you never see them. Another example of falling standards. And I don't know why people are saying it was a beta. Where does it say beta? It was the official release! If Xiaomi accidentally gave us the beta then that's their fault. Companies like honour have actutally created xda accounts to speak to the real Android enthusiasts. However we all know Xiaomi don't give a stuff about you once you've bought their phones.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hichams:
i did all the steps with ExpressVPN Netherland but its not working? any ideas ?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
It worked for me

Maybe they've pulled it?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hichams:
i think that's the case, because i try everything on multiple times i even take it further and i did factory reset with no results.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
Well hopefully that means a fixed one is on its way
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] xx.Palmix.xx:
Reformat xd?

You mean factory reset yeah?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sarhan92!!:
i have successfully done this but now can i flash my phone with a custom rom??
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] shmp30:
My question too, it seems we can't downgrade even on a custom rom.

In this topic developer has a big warning:
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] m1nd:
I am in the Netherlands and I can confirm the update is pulled.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] m1nd:
weirdly today the update is back... same 1074.9 mb size so I guess it´s the same ****ty one.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
What is wrong with these idiots?!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] m1nd:
I have no clue at all. At this point I am thinking I will keep this phone on 8.1.0 forever. I also really need the bluetooth to stay perfectly stable for my smartwatch and earbuds/headphones. Rolling the dice on their updates even if it includes security patches just doesn't seem worth it.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Itemt:
How to get the 4G back?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] denisval:
Don't update or wait for a fix. Those are the only two options I believe.

edit: don't downgrade or move to a custom rom atm.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] arc4d14n:
Search for "Get LTE back" but you have to edit some values with a Qualcomm tool, so it's kinda risky

Qualcomm tool is another way to recover it... Editing NVRAM values
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] goran60:
There is a bunch of unclear and imprecise about this update. I'll mention them separately.

for any problem that arises and is connected either to VPN Holland or to a beta ready, beta rom there is a solution already on the first page of Mi A1 forum. So there is no need for overwhelming panic (you need to be "too much news" to destroy the phone. Beta rom is again a kind of failure and it was created in the hope that it will temporarily calm down our A1 users. It is about the Dutch update that is the topic transfer the experiences of your friend who was randomly in Holland and made the following construction: purchase of the Netherlands post payd SIM cards> delete all cache the google applications> factory reset> inserting new SIM into the phone> creating a new gmail with the Dutch VPN and get OTA update. If you do not type PIN PUK or any other lock when you return your SIM, you will have your phone updated with a new update.

If you get paid, try it
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] GabiML:
When we will get the update officially? I just recieve the phone from service because pie to 8.1 downgrade, and i won't do changes again, so when we all will recieve it?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] JockeSve:
Probably when they (Xiaomi tec's) think it's done... Maybe a bit later ...

Joke aside, as Xiaomi doesn't have history of communicating that kind of info in advance, who really knows...

You'll receive it when it's released in Your region so just be patient!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] TrueMS:
It may be the same size, but the LTE table may be changed.

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Its beta, dont call it a failure, I agree that the LTE is big issue, but everything except that works perfectly. I, luckily, got LTE working. And its just perfect, stability, smoothness and performance.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] m1nd:
The beta has a lot of reported issues. Most of them camera and gapp-crash related. I agree that is not a failure since its a beta. The fact that they released it here in NL as a official stable version is a failure and that they are still pulling it and throwing it back up even today without any communication is a even bigger one. Also can confirm that current ota update in NL still has NOT fixed the LTE bands issue
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
That's a great question. I know somebody who got it 2 days ago and still had the same problems. What I keep asking is why are Xiaomi staying so silent on this disaster?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] GabiML:
Should i mentain the sim removed on all procces till the phone boot up in pie?

If i will have the lte bug, it is only till next update?

If i have unlocked bootloader it is dangerous to not booting up?

Any problem if then with android p i reset my phone with sim in it or update with sim in it?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] JockeSve:
TBH when did Xiaomi an officiall statement about FW/ROM updates? ;)

Like never!?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
They have now:

https://en.miui.com/thread-4963489-1-1.html

However it's the same buggy update. What's wrong with their software developers!!!;
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] JockeSve:
Oooohhh crap!

Do they even read reports about the issues people have??

For time beeing I'll stay on O and wait for 9.1
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
At the bottom of the thread it now says update suspended! What a farce!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] JockeSve:
Well, they did one thing right this time: stopped the roll-out! :good:

Hopefully at least few dev's takes some time and read about reported issues (there are few reported at miui.com) and take some action before re-releasing this baby!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
They also need to give it an updated build number otherwise people already on official pie won't get it.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Varga666:
I received today update in Germany,should i give it try?Do you think they repair bugs with 4g?

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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
The 4g bands are still miss for everybody. Christ knows what the Xiaomi devs are doing.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Varga666:
Well i have problems,there is no 4g,only H+.I live in Augsburg.Also no apps consumation battery info.Everything rest work perfect,even Gcam.

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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Neff_V:
You can give it a try. I have Pie without 4G problems for 1½ weeks.

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That's weird. I have no problems in Munich or Rosenheim. :)
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Varga666:
Maybe because i use Aldi Talk (E-plus).But on Oreo i had almost 90% places 4g.

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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Neff_V:
Hmm I don't think this is the problem. Maybe it's something with your settings? My girlfriend use Blau.de.

Blau and E-Plus are both in the same mobile network (O²).
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Varga666:
Settings are okay,it set to preferred network 4g,before update everything works normal,after update no 4g.I don't know is there additional settings?

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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
Christ don't be stupid. Have you not been following this for the last 2 weeks! 4g will work for people who use the bands that are still there. The point is half the bands were removed by mistake by Xiaomi in the pie beta and then in the initial ota 2 weeks ago. Now the update has been officially rolled out half these bands are still missing (band 7, 20 etc). The fact is it does not work for many people at all! The bands are no longer in the firmware. This has been covered by xda for the last 2 weeks!!!!

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There seems to be a massive inability to grasp basic facts here by many people. Obviously 4g will work for people on the 4g bands that's Xiaomi did not remove by mistake in the original beta. However the fact is half the bands have still not been restored. Just because somebody has 4g does not means it's fixed. A basic LTE/4g app will show you which bands you can pick up in your area. Before I had band 3, 7 and 20. Now I have only limited band 3. Band 7 and 20 have gone completely. These are 2 of the most used bands in Europe, which is why so many people are having issues.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Varga666:
How can i check bands?

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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
Upgraded today and 4G works fine (I'm currently connected to band 20)..
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
Try LTE discover app

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That's interesting. Are you sure? I know 2 other people here in UK on we who were on band 20 (3 including me) and we've all lost it. Plus the obvious major number of reports of lost band 20 in last 2 weeks.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
Yep, pretty sure, connected to band 20 in Europe.. Couldn't this issue affect only people who went Oreo -> Pie beta (1st release)-> Pie (2nd release)? I went straight from Oreo to the second global release. Except buggy dark theme (forced dark mode is in fact still "automatic") and notification LED with seemingly lower intensity, I don't see any major bugs.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
I've just been on the mi forums and there are people who upgraded today from oreo and suddenly lost their 4g bands so it can't be just an issue for people who upgrades from the pie ota 2 weeks ago.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] hycraig:
I'm in UK and lost band 20 updated this morning aswell
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
I've DM Xiaomi 6 times on twitter over the last 2 weeks. I've been ignored everytime. Only conclusion is they don't care about this phone and don't give a **** about their customers!!!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
Not sure then.. Maybe country/operator related? In each case, works fine for me, so it's not a global issue impacting 100% of users.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
Well it can't be country or operator related because none of us had any missed LTE bands until the pie update. So it's defiantly a major issue!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] TrueMS:
I think you should calm down.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
I meant that Xiaomi might have applied some incorrect dynamic rules based on operator/country to disable bands. Something like what happens to WiFi channel 14. Though I fully agree that it shouldn't happen.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
Eh? What I am saying is just based on facts. Too many people are saying things here based not knowing what has gone on over the last 2 weeks. The fact is we are now all on the same build number now and half the bands have been still been removed.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] jack_21:
Just to know, are you using SIM 2 slot?

Did you do some factory reset?

Thanks
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
SIM1 slot for SIM, SIM2 slot for micro SD card. No factory reset, just updated from Oreo to Pie via OTA.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] TrueMS:
Most of the people have working LTE and the others are discussing it here on XDA, we still hope they will release the hotfix to fix LTE bands.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
Ergh no most people here seem to not have it. This thread and the other one here and all the posts on the mi forums prove you are wrong. Most people have lost their 4g bands and volte. Not sure where you get your facts from.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
To be fair, people come to forum mainly if they have a problem. They are not going to report "everything is working fine". You can't make a correct assumption about number of impacted users just by the number of complaints. I understand that you are frustrated because of loss of 4G connection, but you can't extrapolate this to "most people". There is a handful of users with broken 4G for yet unknown reason. At the same time, there is a bunch of people who are still able to use band 20..
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
To be fair you are right. Always hard to quantify how many have 4g working and not working. Although I think a hand full is probably on the low side. There are many here and far more on mi forums with the bands missing and no volte. Considering Xiaomi still haven't fixed this, I think long term if you need volte, probably best to go down the custom ROM route.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] m1nd:
In the Netherlands update size has changed!! It's 1069.1 mb now. Really curious if the bands are fixed in this update but am on a trip and can't risk breaking my 4g right now. Who can check if it is indeed fixed?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
I can confirm the bands are still missing!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] drali500:
Is there's any one didn't get the update yet?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] m1nd:
Thanks. That's sad though.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Varga666:
Does somebody have heating while charging?That is also new on Pie update...

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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] TrueMS:
Nothing here...

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Always remember, most of the people here are here to discuss their problems with it, not to talk about how great is it. And other thing, it is everyone's (and even your) problem that you have lost LTE (if you lost). It is generally known that it breaks LTE.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] RedNas74:
Strange. I'm in the Netherlands and band 20 is working for me in the latest build. I upgraded from Oreo though. Maybe that makes a difference. I'm on kpn btw.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
How is it my problem an official update breaks LTE? It's Xiaomis problem
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] arc4d14n:
Yours as you are having it... I think you misread
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] redbullman:
No it's still not my or any else's problem if it does work. Why would it be, that makes no sense. It is xiaomi's problem to fix and Xiaomi who are losing more and more good will with issues like this