yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stringy:
Updated, all seems stable so far and enjoying the new design features.

BEST OF ALL THOUGH....My Gear Sport now connects to my phone! Obviously there were under-the-hood improvements to Bluetooth beyond AptX.

When that extra info screen comes up, keep tapping the Android version.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cri347:
Enable third party cookies for unlock the Google sign in form.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 777aciek:
Where do you activate aptX? When I connect my JBL Xtreme it doesn't show option to enable that
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vincenzo99:
Where do you find face unlock ?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] webvan:
In SmartLock under Security

It's automatic normally when you pair a BT device. An aptX logo will pop up in the bottom and there will be a small "label" in the summary page. If that doesn't work you could go in the developer options and make sure Bluethooth audio is set to "auto" and not forced to "sbc", but it's unlikely if you've never changed default settings.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NightlockX80:
Yeah I don't see it either

---------- Post added at 12:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:29 PM ----------

Updated today from beta labs and although the UI and animations look great many of the features aren't there. I don't see adaptive brightness like everyone else here and there's no gesture navigation and no sign of that rotation lock feature which I was really looking forward to. Pretty disappointing considering the 8s an Android one phone.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] stuffynet:
Settings - Smart Lock - Trusted face
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] DaF1974:
I only have on-body detection, trusted places, and trusted devices but NO trusted face. I DO have an app called Trusted Face which is active in the background but cannot be started as it doesn't have an icon.

Unlike someone else, I DO have Adaptive Brightness but my display also tends to be too dark. I hope that'll change over time as it learns my preferences.

The previously mentioned AptX is active with my Aukey earphones, however, I don't get the AptX toast message someone mentioned.

Overall, I am fairly happy with Pie although HMD need to add and tweak many more features to make it ready for primetime. Let's hope that there will be a couple of betas with improvements including the camera app.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vincenzo99:
Thanks, but withe pie my phone doesn't charge anymore
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ozzfan1989:
I'm not sure that Nokia 8 is Android onr
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NightlockX80:
I'm pretty sure it is, judging from this article and some others I've read

https://nokiamob.net/2018/02/26/nokia-3-5-6-and-8-will-join-android-one-program/
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mrhuggy:
Noticed one major bug, the Bluetooth keeps turning on and off. It looks like it turns on to send a message and switches off to save power apart its doing this all the time making my car's audio to beep once a minute.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] DaF1974:
Assuming that Nokia's own website is the definitive source, our Nokia 8 is not part of Android One: "Nokia smartphones with Android One include Nokia 3.1, Nokia 5.1, 5.1 Plus, Nokia 6.1, Nokia 6.1 Plus, Nokia 7 Plus, and Nokia 8 Sirocco.". I also read that it was meant to be added but never read that it actually had moved to Android One nor does the boot logo show Android One.

Source: https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_int/android-story
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NightlockX80:
Ah yeah so it would seem. Just how fast we got Oreo coupled with those other articles gave me the impression it was, but ah well
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MadsBen:
Probably. Ended up using IE11
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ozzfan1989:
Whys the clock on the other side tho!
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Toedwarrior:
It should switch on when you are near the paired bt device but it is bugged atm for me too. Somehow i disabled it but i can't find the setting anymore
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hem981:
I saw this on the Nokia website...
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hem981:
Sorry i uploaded a wrong screenshot along with that, but I'm not able to delete it...
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ajgftw:
I have no idea why, but I kinda like it over there.

Makes it just that little bit easier to check the time without the rest of the status bar chaos crowding it.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ozzfan1989:
This true, it just takes a while to get used to. Much like swiping up to clear the recents
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ajgftw:
Yeah I can already tell it's going to take me a while to undo the muscle memory from years of swiping horizontally.

But I am enjoying being able to swipe accross under the recent apps to scroll through them and being able to see the full screen of each entry.

Win some lose some I guess ?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Germ2501:
The Snapdragon Audio+ equalizer(If you're tuning audio playback on Spotify) no longer exists in the Pie beta firmware. Instead this takes its place:
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] maen.safadi:
Nokia Camera on Google play:

"This device is not compatible with your device anymore, contact the developer for more information!"

Why?! And is there a difference between the cameras on the devices?

I think a while ago we updated the camera from the store
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] aeroaqua:
How can i remove this ? appeared after update..
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmed5:
How to access system UI tuner now?

Headphones icon not visible in notification panel anymore for now.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hvlav79:
At last, my samsung S3 has successfuly connected wih my Nokia 8 after the update :) :)
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] kutulu32:
Maybe you checked something at developer options?

Or something was triggered by your launcher widgets.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stringy:
Was extremely pleased to have my Gear Sport successfully connect, was starting to take a very dim view of Nokia!
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Germ2501:
You have to access it via creating an activity widget using Nova Launcher.

Look out for "System UI demo mode" when doing so.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] pasoderb:
My Polar M600 Works well also after the update, many problems with 8.1
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mahdian57:
Sometimes not all the time opening setting, message app and dialer is with lag. like you are waking this app from sleeping.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmed5:
Any glance screen upgrade? Low-key was mostly wanting apps to be supported by glance screen. Can't see anything tho.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] aeroaqua:
Nothing at Dev options,no widget.... Is on top (in apps like Shazam and messenger)
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] kutulu32:
Have you tried another launcher? If it apears also with other launcher send it to nokia as feedback (it is beta after all lol)
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] aeroaqua:
Same with default launcher

Trimis de pe al meu TA-1004 folosind Tapatalk
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] kutulu32:
Try to enter safe mode and see if the message remains press the shutdown for some time until you get the reboot to safe mode message(press the on off button first until you get the reboot shutdown window)
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] aeroaqua:
Same...

Trimis de pe al meu TA-1004 folosind Tapatalk
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] kutulu32:
Send feedback to nokia then nothing else you can do the only thing is restore to defaults bur you cant be sure if this is going to be fixed. i personally always after ota restore the phone to default.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Demiurge:
Hi all,

Voice match ("ok google") does not work anymore for me under pie, and the activation settings remain grayed - it says language is not compatible all the sudden, however it has been working well until now. Anyone else in this situation?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ajgftw:
This happened to me as well.

I solved it by factory resetting my phone.

It might be possible to solve it without going as far as a factory reset but I wasn't able to find a way.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] paja97:
Same situation start working after 2 unlock automatic set off
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmed5:
I changed language from English US to UK of assistant. After that it started working
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Figter:
Hi,

I switcht bitween assist in english and in german: english working well - german language not compatible!

Waiting for update....:D
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Whybal:
A user on gsmarena stated :

Agucibu

Quick notes in the first hours using this update.

1. No soft buttons, good idea holding on the hardware ones

2. Camera has the same UI but I noticed until now much better brightness and exposure levels; nice one this finding! Camera in my opinion os much much better

3. Battery much more resilient up to now.

4. Better Ram management
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gilgamesh293:
So if i push the pie beta

What happens when the beta ends and we get official pie ?

Will i have to wipe all data and factory reset my phone or only download the official version normaly without any data loss ?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] paja97:
I think we will get official Ota updates
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gilgamesh293:
So you don't recommend me to request the pie beta ?

If we are going to get the official ota do you know when will that be ?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
Based on Oreo beta from last year, we'll get OTA to stable version.

But you may have to wait for it the same as everybody else still on Oreo with your model/operator/country combination (Oreo beta participatnts didn't get stable OTA immediately after its release as one would expect).
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] techno_man000:
Better RAM management and resilient battery?? On the contrary, there are RAM management and battery problem on my phone. On 8.1, at least 2GB of RAM was free. On 9.0, this is at least 1.7GB. However, i figured out source of problem. I guess that the problem is background apps. I tried to restrict background apps but it was not effective. Battery drains due to the unstopped background apps. I have reported these 2 problem to authorities.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmed5:
Battery drain rate has increased imo!!!

Battery life was much better before I updated!!
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
For me battery seems the same, but I carefully select apps that I allow to run in the background.

Can't say about free RAM as I don't check it. But apps are kept in the memory and are not killed while in use (for example Spotify playing in the background), so I'd say memory management is good.

Also, practically all animations are fluid.

To summarize, as always, it seems experience depends on apps you have installed and if you control what apps can run in background or not.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] adz63:
Been running pie about a week now but only just discovered there is no gallery app. Was there one in the first place? If so can anyone share the APK please. I'm having to use the files app to view content
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmed5:
Photos app (Google) since the start. Never was any in the first place ever except photos.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ajgftw:
Free ram isn't a measure of good ram management.

Android is designed to keep apps in memory for as long as possible so that they can be quickly swapped to if you go back to them.

Obviously how effectively this works depends on the apps that you use and how efficiently they have been coded and how consistently the developer kept to the Android developer guidelines/best practices.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Germ2501:
Since running the betalabs release, I noticed while playing music(I'm using Poweramp), the music may stutter for a split second at random times. Nothing major but you may be able to catch it.

Does anyone else face this with the same or different music players?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
Never had this problem with Spotify.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmed5:
What is recommended animation speed

?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
I use 0,5x for window and transition animations, leaving rest on 1x.

This way I have quite fast transitions, while still having animations for them. For me 1x feel too slow.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ashish_Maurya:
showing me imei already in use ... what is this mean ???
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] foxbatul:
best batt life ever. 4.5 days + 4.5 h SOT !!! ( after 2 weeks of usage)

Pie it's a winner.

1004
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] webvan:
Thanks for the tip, would have never thought of looking there !

Lots of unexpected items in that activity widget, like the easter eggs, hehe ;)
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmed5:
What is this Glance Style ? Seems really awesome but has no affect in actual on glance
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
I think Sirocco uses this styles settings as Nokia 8 and Sirocco were the only ones using Glance instead of Ambient Display AFAIK.

After those two HMD seems to have dropped Glance, possibly due to it being more limited than Ambient Display in case of notifications support.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nabil427:
Guys I cannot find wps push any idea?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
Seems like Google has removed this in Pie and plans to add it in a "future release" - source.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] kutulu32:
If you mean in developer options you can keep default 0.5 or you can disable the animation completely . If you like the effects you can also try 1.5 or 2 . It depends on you with 0.5 or disabled the phone is "quicker"
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hem981:
Finally, i decided to try out the beta. Installing now.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Maxulia:
Good luck.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Noctis Lucis Caelum:
Looks good, but I think Bluetooth is broken or something,

my Sony headphone used to work with aac codec, but now I can't get it to stick in developer options.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stringy:
That's now done on a per-device basis. If you go to Bluetooth settings and press on the cog next to the device when it's connected you should be able to select HD Audio (I can select aptX with my AKG headphones)
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] debanjan757:
Dunno if it's the right place to ask this but one guy in the official Nokia forum has a Nokia 8 TA-1012 and has widevine L1 support. I own the exact same device but I have widevine DRM security level L3. WTF?

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/53801#Comment_53801
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
First of all he is talking about Nokia 8 Sirocco, not normal Nokia 8.

Second, Nokia most likely did not want pay for L1 certification for a beta and are waiting with it for a stable release.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] debanjan757:
I was talking about Audioboxers comment but anyways I understand because it's a beta. I thought I heard somewhere that this certification thing is free though...
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] webvan:
Just received this :

"Many thanks for being part of the Android™ 9 Pie Nokia phones beta labs program with your Nokia 8. Thanks to your valuable feedback, the official release will soon be ready and available to millions of users.

If you wish, you can roll back to Android Oreo™ to get the official Android 9 Pie release once it is approved in your market – just remember to back up your data because rolling back will erase your apps and files. That said, there’s no need to take action if you don’t want to – the only difference between the Android 9 Pie beta build and the upcoming official market release is the Feedback App. Users on the Android 9 Pie beta software will receive one security update before the next maintenance release."

So it seems the beta users will not get the official release unless they downgrade (how ?) but will get the next one ?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bordi21:
I don't understand the Nokia statement.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
They say that beta users will get next (January I guess) security patch before getting MR (most likely with February security patch) since official Pie will be the same as Beta minus Feedback app. At least that's how I understand it.

What concerns me more is that means, official build also will be missing Adaptive Battery. I wonder if they will at least update changelog.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hiren666:
Where did you get this message?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] webvan:
An email on the address used to sign up for the beta
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bordi21:
What do you mean by "getting Mr"?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
MR - Maintenance Release. Update with more changes than just security patches.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] debanjan757:
That means the stable release will also have widevine L3? And also will we have to revert to Oreo to get the stable pie release?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cyrusct82:
From what I understand from here is that if we have beta pie we will receive a security update before the next maintenance update. And if we roll back to OREO we will have a data wipe.

Another one thing is that we don't need to roll back to receive updates.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] joannerve:
"there’s no need to take action if you don’t want to – the only difference between the Android 9 Pie beta build and the upcoming official market release is the Feedback App"

So, Nokia intentionally is delaying the update and want to sell new phones
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hiren666:
Thats it. Im done with Nokia. I will be going back to Samsung this January.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Qball_NL:
Good luck with that :good:
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] foxbatul:
and ? what s the point here?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Qball_NL:
Twitter:

Juho Sarvikas

‏Geverifieerd account [MENTION=499966]sarvi[/MENTION]kas

Enjoy the festivities with another fresh piece of ? from us - this time on Nokia 8! Phased roll out of #Android 9 Pie for #Nokia8 starts today.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Germ2501:
Unfortunately I won't be happily playing that Mariah Carey song for Christmas if the official rollout is what it is.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] shivamistheguy:
anyone got the update yet?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jacobofski1:
Nokia just Tweeted that the Pie roll out starts today!
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Audioboxer:
Can someone who is a dev please explain to me how a manufacturer starts with the AOSP 9.0 sources and somehow finds a way to remove features and/or port in 8.0 content into 9.0?

To an outsider it seems like the incompetence is off the charts to release 9.0 for the Nokia 8 missing adaptive battery and everything else not in the beta.

I don't think I see any other manufacturer do what HMD is doing with their 2017 lineup releasing a frankenstein build of 9.0 which comes across like a reskinned 8.0. Truly pathetic.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] galvakojis:
Lithuania TA-1004 nothing

Hope to get it today, tomorrow, maybe this week :D
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] leyo1022:
still no update here, KSA.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] pecholino:
Will they really release the current beta as stable? what about bugs, submitted via feedback app? will they just ignore those?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jacobofski1:
I think Nokia was fed up of the clamouring of the Nokia 8 owners. So they gave them an early version of the Pie beta to keep them occupied. And as you saw the complaining did not stop. Now you can get the real thing and still you are complaining. Show some patience! You sound like some of the managers I had in my lifetime, thinking we push a few red buttons and everything is fine! It takes time to make sure that the software fit perfectly on the hardware. No magic tricks, just real hard work!
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
Adaptive Battery is actually not part of AOSP (at least not entirely) - from what I gathered it requires Device Health Services package from Google that is not part of AOSP (or it requires separate package for calculations, but so far everybody uses the one provided by Google).
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] pecholino:
I just recently bought my Nokia 8 (got it for 230€ + postage) and updated straight to pie beta. I haven't tried oreo at all (on this device).

Can someone quickly compare oreo vs pie on Nokia 8? I don't know wether to stay on pie or revert to oreo.

What features are gained/lost with pie? What about battery/speed/camera comparison?

thanks in advance
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
None are lost, it's just Pie on Nokia 8 is lacking new features that are available on other devices, but are not part of AOSP. Adaptive Battery being the prominent one (OnePlus has it, so it's not exclusive to clean Android), Digital Wellbeing is no surprise as it's Pixel/Android One exclusive right now. App Actions on the other hand are more of launcher issue (Nokia haven't really updated theirs on Nokia 8, and none of 3rd party ones support this AFAIK).
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] debanjan757:
I thought Nokia 8 also comes under the android one program.....
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
Nope, HMD joined Android One in February 2018, so every device released before that date is not part of it.

Also, all Android One devices have logo of this program included in bootanimation and most of them have this logo on the back of the device too.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jacobofski1:
Nokia 8 is not part of the Project Treble too. Have any one seen the OTA? In the meantime I set my VPN to India.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] debanjan757:
Same here. And if I ask the dumb chat support here they say that Nokia 8 is a part of the Android one program as well when it's actually not.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 777aciek:
Okay so is it worth to go back from beta to Oreo to get official release of pie?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jacobofski1:
Does not make sense, I am on the beta and I will wait for the OTA update or if someone capture the url of the Pie update.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Qball_NL:
Ok, some more information. We will get a additional update on PIE with new features.

More info on the nokiapoweruser website
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] galvakojis:
maybe link is possible?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Qball_NL:
https://nokiapoweruser.com/next-android-pie-build-for-nokia-8-to-bring-new-features-address-other-feedback/
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ajgftw:
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[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] szabolcs5757:
December security patch is available in Hungary. Let's hope pie is coming aswell

Update: There's no pie here. Only security patch
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cyrusct82:
Romania too
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mohammedferoze:
Saudi Arabia tooo
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Homuncoloss:
Germany also
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ssrki:
They get the official pie for those who are on the nut and it's the same as the beta, and the next update comes in January with new features. We are on the bench, we are waiting for January.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] AthanC:
South Africa also just security patch.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] galvakojis:
yeah only security patch, well this is simply sad. I deeply hoped that we will get pie until Christmas
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ajgftw:
To flash the unofficial beta it was required to flash the December patch first.

As the official release is basically the same build then it seems reasonable to expect the December security will be distributed first.

So maybe...just maybe... Y'all should chill out a bit