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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jyavenard:
Well, my USB port is working again.

It was the connector, after unsoldering the connector, repairing what I could, resoldering. It's now working ... damaged the sticker a bit doing that but well...

Ouch.. finally .. what a relief.

Now just waiting for the fix to remove that radio.

My offer for $100 bounty for a fix only using the microSD still stands as it will be useful for some anyway.

For any other solution, I'll put $50 to the treasure list.

JY
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dwsco:
No Bootloader

I don't know if it's radio or ROM related.... I've flashed and pushed so many buttons trying to get rid of this radio... but I can't seem to get into bootloader mode any more. It goes fine when I flash something so the utility is doing whatever it does to get it there, but no combination of buttons and SR will work to do it manually. Has anyone else had this? I can find lots of threads about getting OUT of Bootloader mode :) but only the Wiki entry on how to get IN, and that doesn't work for me. I'm using the HyperDragon II ROM right now but I was before when it was working. Maybe I wore out my SR button???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
For those of you replaceing your Tilt under warrenty.... You'll be getting a MSM7201 chip. The new Tilts have a few problems of their own. Many people have now noticed that you cannot record video in most ROMS. NoThrills works but Dutty's does not etc. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jockyw2001:
I'm waiting for George to test my solution. There is still an issue with it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
On Live/MSN now. Let me know whenever you're ready to do this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] austinsnyc:
please keep us up to date with what you find out and if you need help testing I wouldn't mind helping out and maybe bricking my stuck ass radio kaiser :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
Sorry..... Not joking. I'm not sure what the issue is. Whether it's with the drivers or if it's with the chip. I just know that many people with the 7201 chip are not able to record video unless it's with the stock ROM or NoThrills. Dutty's does not work. It came with at&t 1.62 and I had no problems with spl or flashing etc. Just the camera. I have three friends here that just got tilts in the last three weeks and I've flashed theirs with dutty's and still the same problem as well as people in the xda community that have this issue.

The camera version(5.04 Build 29195) is the same between Dutty's latest and Nothrills ROMs. There is just something different. I was going to try and find it but I have no time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
LOL ummm having no problem recording video....watching video...etc. on Dutty's ROM's. Don't know what your problem is but everything is working great for me.

Could you post me a link location stating where the new Tilts have a 7201 Chip? Don't seem to find that anywhere.

LOL not nervous I know what I am talking about. No issue what so ever.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RoozbehDream:
You mean after flashing the p[atched radio we can downgrade to other versions? like Niki?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
Here you are sir.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=385605
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shutter13:
AllTheWay did you get your replacement Tilt, or is there a cure for the radio that I haven't seen posted yet?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jockyw2001:
He did a warranty exchange
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Got my replacement Tilt yesterday and it still says Qualcomm(r) 7200.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
No you will not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
Strange. Maybe they have excess 7200 Tilt's for you Cali boys.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] parleyp:
I received my first tilt two weeks ago--7200. It had an issue charging in the car charger. The replacement arrived yesterday under warranty from the premiere site and it too is a 7200. So blanket statements are unwise..not all replacements are going to be 7201.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
Actually.... "All replacements ARE going to be 7201s." It just appears they still have some old stock. So enjoy your blanket. I hope it keeps you warm! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aberz:
Your post failed to provide any hard proof, all you got are assumptions.

If you have any external information (beside I think, My friend said , My mom tell me, my girl friend says so , My dog also agree ... ) , please feel free to make a solid claim. Otherwise , it wouldnt burst your small ego complex " I know everything" if you put " I assume that .... " somewhere along the line.

Got a new till 2 weeks ago, which has been already 2 weeks old. 7200. Yes, I know that it doesnt tell anything clear . But it confirms that you statement is not true.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Zravis:
Same here I tried it as well ... Now we're POOCHED like the rest of em now! All in all the radio works really good and I would have kept it anyways so I guess it doesn't matter to me for the time being :) hahaha
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
OK If you already installed the unpatched. You cannot be fixed by flashing the Patched. You are already Boned. However if someone NOT on this radio, like myself, Flash the Patched Version. We can change it out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Zravis:
Negative. The patched version can not be changed. I had niki's radio installed before I upgraded the the "pooched" errr "patched" version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bml5631:
No USB in Bootloader

Not sure if this is the proper place to post this but I was doing what I did to security unlock my tilt as to avoid the problems others have had with this crazy radio and any others that might lock into the phone with future flashes.

That said...

I had olipro hardspl and then tried to security unlock with jockys which went through without any problems just no security unlocked ever showed in bootloader.

Then I tried with JumpSPL but that did not work and bootloader never changed.

The problem being is now in bootloader serial will not switch to usb and windows says device not recognized, on vista or xp and tried on multiple computers, usb ports and cables.

I am not sure if this is related but I am able to flash from sd no with no problems but new new roms, no matter which one, will get HSDPA or 3g, just stays in E no matter what.

I have been able to get everything back to stock ATT rom with the "Updated: Reverting back to the AT&T or HTC ROM and SPL for Warranty or return" thread as I have a tilt and this was the only way that changed the bootloader back to stock.

I do not think I will have any trouble returning as it will not go out of Edge but I hate to just give up. Any help is greatly appreciated and I am constantly amazed by the accomplishments shown by the people helping each other out on XDA.

Almost forgot, usb works for activesync and usb shows when sppl-kais.exe is run from device but never switches from serial to usb in bootloader.

Please let me know if this is not the proper place to post this and I will take my sadness elsewhere.

Thank you,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ericmcintire:
I never used the original version... this is the patched version that I can't seem to change... would love some help as I can't get sound or camera or anything to work with this radio... I'm sure the all mighty XDA will come up with something soon....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shutter13:
If you flashed the patched version and cannot flash a new radio...sounds like your in the same boat as the rest of us, if you do not have sound, you probably need to flash a ROM that is compatible with this radio. Dutty has 3 versions of his April 29th hybrid that will work with the 1.65.xx.xx radios.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jyavenard:
Plus from a manufacturer point of view it doesn't make any sense.

HTC isn't going to bother with a chipset that isn't 100% backward compatible with the earlier model. Imagine the customer support nightmare if an earlier firmware isn't going to work with the newer model.

Try to explain to a customer that your TynTN II is using a new 7201 qualcomm as such you shouldn't use the firmware upgrade HTC provides for another TynTN II, but instead use another one...

It just ain't gonna happen.

Manufacturer only want to bother with one unique firmware that works on all the revision for a given hardware.

I've written a lot of firmware for very big companies, and backward compatibility has always been a must for a given model, no matter the revision.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
Ahh? Excuse me smart guy. There are pictures to prove it in that post and I can clearly see that I have a 7201 on my tilt. Use that nice search bar you have in your sig to find info on the 7201. People are getting it. They are coming. They are the replacement for the US Tilts. I have seen four with my own eyes. I posted pictures so that the most intelligent of us, i.e. YOU, could understand.

It is backwards compatible with the stock at&t rom. The issue is just with the camera not recording video on most cooked ROMS. There is simply just a difference in drivers or files in the camera program most people use in their cooked roms. Example. Duttys does not work but NoThrills does.

I was just try to let people know of the possible problems they will face if and when they get a 7201.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
I believe you might be right.

The last time I talked to him was Friday evening. He said that he might be on to something and was going to do some testing over the weekend. Waiting to here how the results went. I'm sure he will let everyone know as soon as he has a definitive answer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] haam1978:
ok this thread must be changed and the links to this damn radio should be removed i tried the patched version and i can't change it also and i have no sound and no camera it's really as all the way said radio from hell

please do a favoure and remove the links don't put another person in trouble

because i had it because i belived the title when said the patched version can be change to any other radios and that's not true both of them stuck and never change i tried everything the original room hard spl olipro unlocker another rooms

and i still stuck with the radio and i can't use my phone anymore i can't make calls because there's no sound with dutty room
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fcreeves:
I am in agreement of this. Flashing to Alex's ROM...Thanks Alex.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dwsco:
Radio works fine with HyperDragon and TNT ROMs... maybe Leo's ROMs too but I haven't tried them yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jkim0121:
Radio from the Hell compatibility

I flashed three times in the morning to get my best rom with this hell. From my try, Dutty's latest doesn't work (No sound). Laurentis26's Latest doesn't either. The only ROM that I like and works with the hell is MobileVista 1.3 so far.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fcreeves:
Is MobileVista 1.3 the only ROM UC Compliant with this crap Radio?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gadgetdad:
Somewhat confused here - I am also stuck with the radio from hell but was able to get Dutty's April 29th hybrid to work for voice and data needs. Just make sure to get one of the three versions in his post two that are compatible with this rom. They are labelled under "There will be 3 roms compatable with the latest AT&T Radios 1.65.14.06 and Radio 1.65.17.10" Just download the 14.06 roms. Hope this helps...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lordsoft:
Radio

I am with patched version of radio.

Works fine with latest Dutty V2.

Is there a way to fill this radio with zeros or something else, with mtty or someone write a patch.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gadgetdad:
Yes sir. Took pic and sent as mms with reciept on other end fine. Saved to phone also... What errors are you getting ? Actually this may be a rom specific error - not really on track for this thread's radio issue. I would be more then happy to help you on this - shoot me a pm and we can work on it :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fcreeves:
Glad to Hear that...I have my UC already done for the Hybrid V2_1_64.08.21[CubeV2]

Best news I've had since this "patched" crap happened. I'm going to kill my UC efforts on Mobile Vista now...thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tricsio:
I am also stuck with the radi from hell but I got my phone working with the latest ROM frem Dutty. All is wrking well. I first flashed using HardSPL v1 then ran Dutty's latest ROM from April 29.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fcreeves:
Just Flashed...initial boot in progress. I didn't do a HardsSPL v1 though. We'll see...fingers crossed. I could have lived with the April first edition forever. If this works I won't be cursing this so called "patched" release. I had known about this radio and was trying different radios last night to test with my SouthWing SA 505 (been dropping BT) and thought I'd give this radio a test since the header was changed to "patched." I was so steamed last night. Aligning screen now...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gadgetdad:
i was thinking about picking that headset up soon. let me know how it works for you since you will be running my identical setup here in a minute :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] austinsnyc:
PLEASE EVERYONE STAY ON TOPIC!!!

this thread has gone all over the place and its getting stupid. PLEASE POST ONLY THINGS ABOUT HOW TO GET RID OF THIS RADIO OR WHAT YOU HAVE TRIED!!

if you want to talk about what roms work start another thread! If you want to talk about warrenty start another thread. There is no reason why we should have to read through other peoples rants and raves period...

So as of this point there is NO WAY to change the radio once you have flashed it period so don't not even a patched one to be on the safe side! We need to make the pot grow a little more and maybe inspire Oli, POF, comnex, GEOLSEN3, Jocky, to help us fix this issue.

Also I have cooked a nice rom based off of the 202 build that works wonderful the camera, sound everything works great. I will upload it later in a new thread for those having issues with sound and camera

REMEMBER PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC OR MODS PLEASE DELETE POSTS THAT ARE NOT!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fcreeves:
Well I am in the exact position I was before I got screwed yesterday. This headset is worth every bit of the $25 buy it now with shipping. It does drop BT connection every now and then (April 1st w/ inc. radio) on calls but sound is fantastic. More comfortable than the Motorola HT820's that my daughter lost...the Princess Leia look is not nearly as bad as the HT820's either.

I digress. I can live for awhile. It took Dutty nearly a month to out-do the April 1st, now I hope there is a fix for this radio before he out does the 29th. I am going take my daughter for a drive and see if the new Garmin Mobile XT 2009 maps have this street my GF lives on:-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jirakhom:
What’s the progress now?

I have read all 52 pages, and I am really confused about what’s going on here. Please someone confirms me on

The patched radio doesn’t really work as it should (because Some said it works, and later some people said it doesn’t)

The phone will be safe if it’s security unlock with Jocky’s but not olipro (I saw someone mentioned about this earlier in this thread)

Until now, there is no any possible method to solve this unchangable radio even though using mtty or pdowrite to rewrite the radio section

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] haam1978:
hello all the way

you said you got out of the hell by return warrenty

do you mean like this in this thread?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=335568
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jockyw2001:
work in progress
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MrEous:
Jesus...can someone update the original post to NOT say there is a patched version?

I dl'd the 'patched' version and now can't get another radio...thanks.

Guess I'll be playing the waiting game too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
First post updated. I'll also be deleting some of the useless posts in this thread, so don't be surprised...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SH4YD33:
Thanks for editing the post. I also added a link to the SECURITY UNLOCKER.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jirakhom:
My previous post was questions, and not confirmation or fact.

I'm sorry if my post is misleading the fact, but what I have read according to the post #65 which is belong to _Alex_ who is one of the mods and the most respectful chefs. Again I'm really sorry if I'm really misunderstood on the post above.

I think What he meant was using Jocky to cid or super cid unlock and then Olipro to security unlock, if i'm not mistaken.

Edit : My Tilt has been security unlock with Olipro's and in my boot loader shows "Security unlock" on red, which means I can be safe to flash this radio, right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
I am security unlocked and I am still scared to flash this radio. I don't want another Tilt stuck with this radio. So I am holding out on flashing it.

...but to answer your question yes. If it shows security unlock at the top of the bootloader then you should be able to flash this radio and change it afterwards. It has worked for other users.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Cluck, cluck, cluk booooock :chicken-smiley)

I did it! It's all the rage!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jirakhom:
Thanks for your kindly advice. Honestly I'm also scared, but just my curiosity and itching to try the new radio. Anyway I'll take your advice on not flashing this radio because the one I'm using already gives me an excellent reception.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Just for ****s & giggles, has anyone tried flashing a new radio via SD Card???

Sign the file, or use a signed file, make sure the byte type matches radio, then rename the nbh to KAISDIAG.nbh & place on SD Card.

Alex???? Care to try?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MrEous:
Can I do this the other way? I have the ROMofDeath already...maybe I can change to another radio using this method?

Is there a step by step?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] svcglobal:
Another chicken here...:eek: I will keep my current radio/ROM configuration for a long, long time.

Anyway, just to be safe, I will do jocky's security unlocker and, if sucessfull, will send some beers to him.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fcreeves:
Thank you for changing Post 1

Thank you for changing Post 1. I am sure this will keep the "stuck" count to a minimum.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ericmcintire:
hey Gelson.... does "lala land" mean los angeles? if so I'm in hollywood and I'm stuck with the radio and you can do all the expiramenting you want on it.. let me know
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jyavenard:
I first flash the AT&T radio with the SD card, got screwed anyway
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jhanus721:
Hey guys I think I found a temporary fix for this radio issue we all are having. I was not able to get the superCID software to work so therefore I did not unlock my radio or sim. Here is what I did:

(Remember, I flashed my rom with Kaisers WM6.1 and flashed the radio with 1.65.17.10 which was a huge mistake. I could not downgrade to an older Radio as we all know.)

1. I tried using the superCID tool to unlock the radio/sim on the phone but for some reason I could not get it to work. I did step 1 and tried flashing the new rom on the phone which did not work. I then followed step 2 to unlock the phone which did not work either since it was giving me errors in the command prompt, not able to connect to USBSC bla bla..

2. I was reading somewhere else on the forum that I needed to downgrade my rom to wm6.0. I found a ROM that was posted on January 9, 2008 which looks like it made everything work.

3. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=357894 <-- Lightweight ATT Tilt Rom Cooked from Alex's Kitchen. I flashed my Tilt with this rom, followed the steps and wala my camera now works as well as my incoming calls and outgoing calls. I can turn the speakerphone on and it works great. Now I did run into issues where it stopped working for a second but then I reset the phone and it has been working great ever since.

Not sure if this is going to work for everyone but this did work for me! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Faster4:
You change the Radio version ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Sorry, kinda in and out because I'm in the process of moving cross-country. PM a link and I'll give it a try, as long as you can guarantee I won't be bricked (cuz I don't think I have a spare, or even worse it'll be something worse than a Razr (SE T68i anyone? :P)).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jhanus721:
I did not change the radio version. I reset my phone to double check and it still states that I have 1.65.17.10
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MrEous:
Well just a side note, the radio seems to be working fine in my area (Dallas)...good signal and whatnot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
LOL. I feel your pain.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jhanus721:
scratch this fix.. I reset the phone and it is back to where I started. No camera, and no sound :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
I was going to ask you about that. I thought we had a magical radio that worked with WM6.0 and WM6.1.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jhanus721:
Do you know of any roms that work with the 1.65.17.10 radio?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Andriyy:
i have a half-solution. :)

I use http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=388947&page=135 ROM. And all is working with known problems - no sound during call. But i think that with my steps it can work with any other roms.

what i have done is to switch my phone to silent mode. no sound and notification. only phone sound and vibrate mode. and for 3 days it working nice without reseting. the main problem is that i missed some calls - but i can make a call and can receive tham, the signal strange and sound quality is fine.

i also have to disabled all sound notification and sometimes i lost sound and have to reset a phone if i receive sms during talk. but it happened no so often.

so for people who get stuck with this stupid radio rom... and of couse i am waiting for new build and solution.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xcsdm:
The mods did a wonderful job of cleaning this thread. AND YOU STILL CAN'T READ IT?

RTFT, the answer (as in several) is in there.

XC
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dwsco:
I think it's in here a couple of times.... HyperDragon II and TNT's new ROMs work fine with thias radio... no camera, phone or sound problems. I have used all the HyperDragon ROMs and they all work. Only tried TNT original release but it seemed to be fine too.