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[Moto E4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] hecksagon:
Your personal preferences does not change the math of the situation. The Moto E4 Plus is a low volume budget phone. It's designed to fill the market of first time users, emerging markets, and people who can't afford a $20/month phone payment. In the US, that market isn't very big. The highest selling phones are consistently Apple and high end Samsung devices. These routinely get 60% margin or better. Apple and Samsung are companies that can essentially leverage those huge sales numbers to dictate pricing from their suppliers. Lenovo is not in that dominate position.

For the sake of argument, we will assume that the Moto E4 Plus sells as many devices as a high end device and has as good of margins (both assumptions that are very unlikely to be true).

$180 X 60% Margin = $108 gross profit per device

$800 X 60% Margin = $480 gross profit per device

Which one would you spend your finite engineering resources on?

"$800.00 for an iphone that has outdated hardware and a display that they claim is top of the line or one of a kind when in reality it is just a standard IPS display."

That outdated when launched $800 iPhone 6s from 2015 has better single core performance than the current top of the line Snapdragon 845 and a display that blows any current $200 or less phone out of the water. Not bad for a 3 year old device. There isn't a single hardware spec on the Moto E4 Plus that beats out <4 year old iPhone except sdcard and the battery capacity. And you pay for that battery capacity with huge dimensions.

I have a Moto E4 Plus because I needed a cheap device quickly. It was the least bad choice. I don't have any illusions about what this phone is or isn't If I were unconstrained by budget it would not have been even in the running.
[Moto E4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mastertrobs:
Your Logic don't make since because i also have the Moto G5 plus which is the same price as the Moto e4 plus and it received the Oreo update, and there are older devices that Motorola is also pushing the update to also i bought my moto e4 plus from the factory unlocked i am using it under AT@T prepaid unlimited for $65.00 dollars a month. The payment for the phone itself has nothing to do with what you pay for phone service a month unless you sign a contract also i will admit the Moto e Line is not the highest end phone but it's also not low end i consider it a mid-range phone but in my opinion even the mid range to lower end phones should get the same updates at the same time hell i even seen some $70.00 phones shipped with Oreo, all in all though once i researched more into Oreo i actually read its not all its cracked up to be and they changed alot of stuff and some prefer nougat anyways so its not that disappointing that this phone wont receive it i guess i am just keeping this phone for the 5000 mAh battery and that is a big plus for this phone
[Moto E4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] hecksagon:
"Your Logic don't make since because i also have the Moto G5 plus which is the same price as the Moto e4 plus and it received the Oreo update"

The Moto G5 Plus has an MSRP that is 30% higher than the Moto E4 Plus. It also likely sold more due to more desirable specs. Doesn't matter what the sale price was to get you to activate a line, that's up to the carrier. Lenovo still makes the same amount. In the end the economics simply didn't make sense to Lenovo to spend engineering resources making and validating an update.

"hell i even seen some $70.00 phones shipped with Oreo"

If Oreo source is out when you are making a phone, there are a lot less hurdles to ship it with Oreo. Moto E4 Plus came out before Oreo was released.

"all in all though once i researched more into Oreo i actually read its not all its cracked up to be and they changed alot of stuff and some prefer nougat anyways so its not that disappointing that this phone wont receive it i guess i am just keeping this phone for the 5000 mAh battery and that is a big plus for this phone"

Then why are you going on about this?
[Moto E4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mastertrobs:
Well i started this topic originally to ask why no one else is going to develop a custom Oreo ROM for the Moto e4 or hasn't yet, it was not until after i started looking into the reviews about Android Oreo that i found out most still prefer nougat, eventually i will just find a custom ROM when someone decides to develop one
[Moto E4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] jefffrom:
well said !

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you know what if it never happens to tell you the truth I don't care giving the beta , stable ect... ruining linageOS on my owens and love it !
[Moto E4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Sword Master:
I just want an Oreo rom for the (Owens) and I could live happily
[Honor Play Guides, News, & Discussion] GGSINGH:
I was just going through the storage cleaning app on my Honor Play and I found out that WeChat is using 98mb memory on my phone.

I have never ever used WeChat in my love and never have I ever even installed. It doesn't show anywhere else in my phone.

Should I be worried about this? Is this some kind of a privacy breach that Trump accuses Huawei of?
[Honor Play Guides, News, & Discussion] spityu85hun:
all tree charaters office sickly ****s of Chinese spying. Unnecessarily. If it were true would not have been the Huawei company, that's a fact! Not to be afraid of Huawei :fingers-crossed:

not use wechat? remove or disable app :) app use cache, that is normal :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mumford and Dragons:
Hi there. I really hope this can be solved as have looked everywhere today and no luck.

Also, really sorry the long description. But this is best I can describe it with as best info provided

Having an issue with WhatsApp strangely backing up/saving GIFs that I am looking at/scrolling through when replying to someone, and its backing up/saving the GIFs to my Google photos/ OnePlus Gallery.

All I am doing is looking at the gifs, not saving them, not clicking them. Just looking/scrolling through them. If I scroll/look through 6 gifs, it will save 6 in total. If I look at 20 gifs, will save 20 etc... I did a test to see what settings made this happen;

-Show media gallery is ticked on, and the Media Auto Download (using mobile datal, Wi-Fi and roaming) is on made the GIF backup happen.

-Then, having Show media gallery on, and Media Auto Download off still made it happen.

-Then having both off still backs them up.

I have found that if I view the GIFs in WhatsApp when replying, then go to Google photos>Device folders, it all of a sudden loads the GIFs I viewed in a folder called gif preview cache. I then go to OnePlus Gallery and then it automatically shows them there!. There is some correlation here but can't figure out This is the odd thing, if I was to view GIFs in WhatsApp again, then view in OP Gallery first, it doesn't show them. I have to go to Google photos> Device folders first for it to somehow display them there, then the gallery when I go to it after!

Does this make sense? Its been driving me nuts!

I also Emailed WhatsApp and they said: On Android, it's not possible to preview WhatsApp media files without downloading them to your phone. Auto-download only controls whether this is done automatically, or upon tapping on the file . Remember, I am not clicking on the media/GIF which saves it. I am merely looking/scrolling through them!!

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[Samsung Galaxy J7 (2017) Questions & Answers] MaikelD85:
I have a Samsung Galaxy J7 (2017) DuoS, which I would like to Root, but there are so many guides that I have seen and kind of browsed through that I just don't know which Guide to follow. I'm kinda stuck. I basically only need Root access to use the Roehsoft Ram Expander App for which I specifically bought an SD Card for. But the most posts I have seen or for the J7 Pro which is a different version than I have, can someone help me by guiding me to the correct guide to follow? Thank you in Advance
[Samsung Galaxy J7 (2017) Questions & Answers] MaikelD85:
Found a guide saying you can root by installing Magisk with stock Recovery through Odin, did this and everything seemed to be working correctly until the phone restarted and said that the verification failed. And this is only my phone also have a tablet that I still need to do (SM-T580) Really hope someone can help me?
[Samsung Galaxy J7 (2017) Questions & Answers] zfk110:
I dont know about odel SM-J70 since I dont have one to test for t580 go and follow here

rom

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-a/development/extremely-deodexed-debloate-rom-t3615389
[ZTE Nubia Z17  Questions & Answers] spaykerek:
Hello folks,

Is there any tool to flash nubia manually instead from the recovery room or otg device? I am getting error all the time...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Accessories] Andre_wow26:
i use xda II with wm5 ( os 5.1.195 ) and i have problem with my sandsik card wifi ( sdwsdb-000-768 ). xda did not recognized the card. what should i do? pls help:confused::confused::confused::confused:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Accessories] Rudegar:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=246313&highlight=wifi+sdio

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=309661&highlight=wifi+sdio
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Accessories] Andre_wow26:
thanks bro. i'll try it first. does any body know where to buy spectec in jakarta?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Accessories] lontong balap:
bhineka store the expensive :D

had it <eye-fi_sdhc_connect_x2_4gb>

but i got courius could it worked well at hima ??? :(

testi nya ya bro kalo udah nyobain

ane takut beli kalo ga bisa jalan :D

link

http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00310517/eye-fi_sdhc_connect_x2_4gb.aspx
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Accessories] muckelmaus:
Interesting hardware, but it won't work on our Himalaya devices, as it is a SDHC-card. Hima does not support it, the driver needed lacks.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Accessories] lontong balap:
can i partition it to make it works :confused: parted onto 2gb each ???

or

it really cannot works because lack or the driver ? :confused:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Accessories] muckelmaus:
Nope, no driver -no HC!!

PS. You're right, of cause, the driver lacks, not "leaks". Pardon me, I'm old and ugly, my fingers are crippled. I'm soooo lonely!!! UaaaaaHHaaa!!!!!

You found it - You can keep it!!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Accessories] lontong balap:
and so which sd io wifi card and the capacity that could run on my hima device ???

thanx in advance :D
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] silviabcn:
It does not have a blow, but that failure comes out. Can it be fixed or do you need to go to the factory?
[G4 General] semass:
Back in the fall of 2015 I bought a H815 LG G4 for my son. Within a few weeks it started to bootloop. Not knowing what was going on he continued to try using it until January 2016 when it finally died. Since it was not a US version LG US refused to fix it under warranty. My son bought another G4, a US991 this time.

I managed to get the H815 to Taiwan, LG there fixed it under warranty and I kept it for myself.

Both phones had been working fine until mid November this year when the US991 decided to die. I figured that was the end of that phone since the one year warranty was well and truly over but I decided what the heck, I called LG US.

I told the very polite lady that answered the phone that my almost 3 year old phone is doing nothing but show a screen that says “LG Life is Good”. She had me try a few things and then asked me for the IMEI #. She told me it was under warranty, send me a FexEx label and I send it to them.

They returned the phone the same day they received it. From what I can tell they replaced the motherboard. The phone has been working fine for a week now.

I am not happy that LG sold phones that quite clearly had issues or with the fact that we never got the android updates they promised, but I am impressed that they fixed an item that has been out of warranty fast and totally free.
[G4 General] good4y0u:
Yeah they are really trying to repair their image. Unfortunately their fix isn't a real fix and just a replacement. It will likely do the same thing. Also they just made the phones substantially less powerful by disabling the cores...

In all it ruined my experience with LG as I had 2 other LG phones that had similar issues... Now I'm using an Essential PH-1 (on sale they are a great deal) and was looking at the one plus 6t or pixel 2 of 3 on sale as well as alternatives.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] Messinger:
None of the keyboards I ever use (not GBoard, SwiftKey, LastPass, or Grammarly) allow the display of Android's native spell-checker (see attached for an example with SwiftKey).

Is there a workaround? The best I can do is attempt to get the misspelling into the very top of the screen in the hope that the spell checker's list will fit above the keyboard. Or, float the keyboard so I can drag it above the spelling error.

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[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] shimulx:
After experimental edition, today released nightly edition !!!!!! :D

https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=clover&type=
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] tim-scrap:
Works good, no issues so far. :svetius:
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Kah_S:
DT2W is working now but the magnetic cover still not working
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] yepyup:
thx good work
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] snke:
Camera now has its own app or need third party as before?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Tysovwik:
It's not working at mi pad 4 plus (both devices has same rom)
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] shimulx:
Since kernel source has been released, all bugs will solve soon....
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] shimulx:
What about battery backup?????
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] tim-scrap:
Not Sure what exactly you mean, not used device (Pad 4 plus) a lot since Installation., But battery drain etc Looks fine. No Backup of battery done...
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] shimulx:
I mean screen on time.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] yepyup:
gyro sensor not working.

auto rotation is not working
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] eliccs:
Developer is preparing for the postgraduate exam, after this month he will gradually begin to fix various minor problems.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] yepyup:
1126 version fix gyro sensor

but dt2w sometime not working in deep sleep

and sometime disable wi-fi need to reboot
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] letschky:
MoKee Open Source Downloads

File not found or illegal request.

For Rom and Gapps
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] shimulx:
mine is working :confused:
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gaja22:
Yes me too.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] letschky:
meanwhile it has worked, cool rom.

you have to try it more often
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] xda350:
Auto-rotate will be lost if you wipe the persist partition.

You will need to install official Chinese stable firmware MIUI (zip for recovery through twrp).

Details (instruction from 4pda):

What you need to do if autorotate isn't working:

1) flash twrp in fastboot, reboot in twrp

2) TWRP:

wipe data/cache/system

flash Chinese stable MIUI zip. reboot в system

wait when MIUI loaded, reboot in twrp (maybe you will need to repeat step 1)

3) Wipe data/cache/system

3) Flash Mokee + gapps pico. Reboot in system

4) Profit
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] tom.android:
Please add DT2W for Mi Pad 4 Plus Thank you .
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Kah_S:
DT2W is working fine

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https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4311692730613713

Magnetic cover lock will be fixed in tomorrow's nightly build.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] tom.android:
ok i can't enable DT2W mi pad 4 (Plus).
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] snke:
Non certified on play store, is this a bug? Or selinux in permissive mode?

And dt2w doesn't work fast, It always takes a few seconds to work
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] shafiaszad:
I am now using 2018/11/28 version. Pretty stable. D2W is laggy or non responsive sometimes, wifi was stuck only one time, but immediately recovered. Battery life is similar to miui. Ram management and notification management is way better in mokee. I am on mipad 4/3gb, this rom is good enough for daily driver.

Can some one give me any thread of the developer where I can see the changelog...
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] banesi:
I have observed that on both Mokee and AICP roms, latest versions seems to have fixed led notification and magnetic cover but I wonder if security is the cost of it.

Would like to hear more from devs if they are here on XDA?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] snke:
Probably when the ROM can boot with selinux in enforcing mode the problem will be solved
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] salzzz:
wait, where's the magnetic cover settings? I still can't enable it in 20181204
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] baragoon:
lol, where did you get 20181204 for Mipad4? Latest nightly is 20181203
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] salzzz:
sorry, I meant 03. there's no such settings
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] a2heng:
Its enabled by default,but there are two different sensor, only one work.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] tom.android:
My mi pad model: MIPAD 4 PLUS

FingerPrint Scanner Model: FPC

OS : MK81.0-clover-201812070036-NIGHTLY

Now support microG ( NanoDroid 20.2a/20.3-beta1 (System Mode) )

!!! Remark: use Home button activate screen : don't want DT2W anymore.

Thank you for your great work.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gaja22:
I have issue with Wi-Fi when I try to restore on cloud with Google account. Wi-Fi error when I try to connect to a network that was restored.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gaja22:
See in Magisk module, install Safety Patch. Device will be certified.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] mimox:
Thank you for this great ROM! Works much better for me than the xiaomi.eu ROM I tried using before.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] martimor:
I am still waiting the 360 hours to unlock bootloader, but already thinking about which rom to use.

Does someone know whether Mokee Rom

does support multiple users?

has selinux in enforcing or permissive mode?

does it support a family link google account for children?

is it easy to delete chinese apps (I do not speak Chinese and want to use playstore)?

On Miui the multiple users did not really work.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] josepmaria:
1.- Don't know/don't use

2.-Permisive

3.- Don't know/don't use

4.- no chinese apps, very similar to lineage
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gaja22:
How to disable Trust, please ?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gutenberge:
device is taking 50% ram with no app opened :(

smart cover sometimes work, most often it's not working

Edit: after December 24 update, ram usage is improved, now only takes 40%
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] snke:
No one of this modules works with magisk 18
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gaja22:
Works perfectly with me with Magisk 18 build Mokee nightly 24/12/18.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] snke:
That's true, I didn't find it before. I hope developer of module still develop continuously
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Andro_Nicus:
MK90.0-clover-201812300136-NIGHTLY based Android 9 is out.

Happy New Year.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] mimox:
Nice. Has anyone tried it yet? Any issues?

Will the mokee updater try to flash this over a 8.1 nightly and if yes, will it work? What about gapps?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gaja22:
Need to dirty flash or clean flash ?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] snke:
Obviously a clean flash
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] 3ezzat:
Link to telegram group please
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] mimox:
Will the updater try to update 8.1 to 9 (which would fail without a wipe)?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] milanelo:
The 9.0 build poped-up in the mokee centre. Has anyone tried to update it through the mokee centre? The 9.0 update shows as incremental so probably it could autoupdate similarly to the 8.1 builds?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Andro_Nicus:
When updating useing OTA mechanism from Oreo to Pie on a modified system, you need to be aware of several important principles.

To avoid issues with the ROM upgrade,

Magisk should be uninstalled and modules.

Xposed should be uninstalled and modules.

Dirty flash (system @ system) should go succesfull and save your data and settings.

A clean install is not required by following what I have written.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] milanelo:
Has anyone tried the 9.0 version? Is there a stand-by battery drain cause the 8.1 version's stand-by is great?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] mimox:
Thanks for the information! Will it also work if Gapps are installed?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] milanelo:
This is also my question. I tried downloading the 9.0 version through the mokee centre but there is a verification error everytime i try and download it. So if i try and dirty flash the rom should i also flash the 9.0 gapps? So first clear dalvik/cache -> then dirty flash 9.0 rom and 9.0 gapps? In this case will all the data be preserved?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] PremiumMediocre:
Installed the 9.0 version with a a clean install. Everything works great. With magisk and the right module you can certify the playstore and install Netflix. The only thing I didn't manage to do was to activate the device encryption. When I tried that it just reboots when you try to enter your password pattern. I had to format the data partition to fix it. I don't know if it has to do with twrp version Im using. Did it work for anyone else?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] a2heng:
There is a new version 3.2.3.0-3 fixed the issue
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Andro_Nicus:
[MENTION=2883197]milanelo[/MENTION]

When installing the OTA update, the partition / system will be overwritten, this also applies to Gapps. You must reinstall them. I recommend the Pico or Nano version.

From what I know, Aroma installer (Aroma Gapps) has a problem with acting on Pie, so it's better not to use it.

The rest of the Gapps should be simply installed from the G store.

Just do a dirty flash and then install (basic) Gapps.

Wipe Cache / Dalvik is the recommended action after every update.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] PremiumMediocre:
Good to hear, but I didn't manage to download it. When I click the link it tries to download an apk file instead. Is there an other host? Also, is the recovery in English, as an option?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gaja22:
Just have a look here : https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=78622568&postcount=4
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] PremiumMediocre:
Tried enabling device encryption again with that recovery, same result. Didn't work. Are you sure?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] PremiumMediocre:
Temporarily re-flashed the original recovery, encrypted, and then reflashed your twrp. Now everything works, TWRP can decrypt the data partition .