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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] harol_wow:
I need beta 2 for G965u1
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
Where is this ZRKJ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rmarinella:
Got it OTA. looked for a zip to share on the device, but no luck.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
I'm pretty sure I have the zip, but zrk9 won't let me update from SD card for some reason to ZRKJ, and now my wifi won't turn on
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Stucane:
can anyone upload zip ZRKJ here?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] SlackingVeteran:
Beta 2 links are up now. Added to OP
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Stucane:
they removed volte and wifi calling from beta 2, very sad, is it possible to roll back to beta 1? :(
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] alexcarterkarsus:
Does anybody encounter the problem of sd card not mounted while trying to update from sd card in recovery?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] dorian95:
Yes, couldn't update beta 2 through recovery, had to use update through ADB option, connecting phone to PC.

Thanks for updating thread OP.

Hotfix is also seems to be released for Beta 2 for people who registered via samsung members/+ app
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Stucane:
I installed beta 2 through recovery (SD card) and it works.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Psyscope:
Anyone on ZRKJ for the U phones able to share with us a system dump? Use root explorer to copy and zip the ODM and system folder and then upload it to us?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rawdikrik:
Go down the list here https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s9-plus/how-to/broken-features-current-android-pie-t3845763

There are a few builds with spotty Samsung Pay

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any idea how to get that hotfix? seems to fix important issues

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also... seems that our beta 2 is behind every other beta 2.

With the hotfix, the latest is G965FXXU2ZRKN
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rmarinella:
Not sure that we'll get the hotfix. Our Beta 2 was released after the F models updated. Perhaps ours has the fixes incorporated as I haven't had issues with the things that the hotfix addressed:

"Many users had complained about their mobile data connection not working on the second Pie beta, and this has been fixed with the hotfix update. Also fixed is a problem that prevented some apps from opening."

Have you had either of those issues?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rawdikrik:
Was planning on flashing as soon as I got home from work.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] dorian95:
Guess it's a lottery then, because it said couldn't mount sd card for me, but then again I had to full wipe after I installed beta 1.

As for hotfix I don't have the link, and never encountered issues with mobile data either.

Gpay or Samsung still don't work with beta 2 thought, but I expect that gonna be issue until release version hits.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jethrt:
I could not mount SD card either. I used ADB. I am not rooted and upgraded to Beta 1 from installing the update zip from the SD card in recovery. No wipe. But Beta 2 wouldn't work that way.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LeonardoKurzhals:
My Routines app from Googd Lock 2018 is not working on this last Beta2. Anyone with the same problem? Any sugestions?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] JFranko:
Hello guys,

I have a problem with upgrade. I have version ARJ6 and I can't upgrade it do ZRJ9 or ZRJK. I've read that I need to downgrade to ARJ2, but do anybody know how to do that? I would really appreciate some help, as i really want to try Pie with ONE UI

Or do anybody know if I can remove checking line from updater-script?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rawdikrik:
I thought the build numbers are what show which is the newest... Wouldn't that make the one I posted the most recent?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] abhitharwal:
Indian s9 Plus SM G965F- I m on stock beta 1 which is flashed through sd card, Can i update beta 2 using sd card without loosing data and without root?

https://www.gizmotimes.com/android-...-the-samsung-s9-to-android-9-pie-one-ui/32308
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
Same issue, wouldn't mount sd card. But I am also having an issue using adb. What was your process? I feel like I'm missing something simple
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rmarinella:
Looks like we'll be getting G965U1UEU3ZRKO. You may be right, could be a hotfix coming. Even though I haven't had any of the issues reported.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 09halu:
try to format your micro sd card to "FAT32" then retry, it worked for me with second attempt my 32Gb micro sd card, as my first try was with 64Gb with "exFat" format

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go to this page https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s9-plus/how-to/sm-g965u-g965usqs3ari6-sm-g965u1-t3853429

download from Mega with file name SM-G965U1_G965U1UEU3ARJ2_Official_Firmware, back up your files and flash through Odin, this was how I switched from U version to U1
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rawdikrik:
Where did you see that build number? I cant find any info anywhere.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Sergykm:
deleted
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rmarinella:
Already superceded by G965U1UEU3ZRKP. No download yet, just OTA.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] SlackingVeteran:
OP updated for ZRKP
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Stucane:
Volte and wifi calling are working in this build?

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already checked, does not work for me :(
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
Anyone have any info/help? I'm having the sd card mounting issue trying to move from zrk9 to zrkj, and I'm missing something trying to use adb. It's like it won't find the update.zip file when I input the command.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] SlackingVeteran:
SD card doesnt mount for many people here. I think I am the only lucky one here who doesn't have sd card issue. ADB sideload is your only option
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] SlackingVeteran:
Yes, VOLTE and Wifi calling is working on ZRKP. This was the main reason behind hotfix update
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
I'm having an issue using ADB as well. It is almost like it isn't finding the update.zip file on my computer when I try to input the command
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] SlackingVeteran:
type in

adb sideload

then drag and drop your zip file
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
Thanks, I'll try it in the morning and see how it goes
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Stucane:
Probably it works only for US carriers. I use the phone outside the US and with the beta 1 everything worked fine, beta 2 and beta 3 don't support these functions with my carrier.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Richy101:
I'm UK unlocked s9+ and on the beta pushed out by Samsung. Routines app doesn't work for me either. I have no solution. Also night mode doesn't stick. It reverts back after a short while. On nova launcher and don't have the close all option in recent apps though I believe if you use Samsung launcher then the option is there. Other than that I've not found much else but not had a good look through yet. Early days but think standby is eating more battery. Like I said early days being beta and all and not had time to settle down. In truth never upgraded android OS and the battery use improved!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jethrt:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...manually-using-recovery-and-adb-sideload/amp/
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
ADB not sideloading beta3, system says "unable to open sysfs usb node, as well as assert failed: getprop."
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ChadH42:
Sideload worked for me .
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
Did you get the file from the op?

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I think my issue is ADB sideloading is not setting up properly beforehand. It gives me an error on my phone before I even input the ADB command, but then it appears to start loading, then creates another error at the end.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] SlackingVeteran:
only resolution is to flash Oreo with odin on that screen.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
Yeahhhh, thats what I had to end up doing. Still not sure why I can't update to beta 3 through adb, but at least my phone works again haha

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So, the universe doesn't like me. I'm back on Oreo, and now I can't use ADB to sideload at all.

This is what is showing on my phone:

Stopping adbd...

Unable to open sysfs usb node( No such file or directory ). Trying configfs

failed to set driver control: No such device

Unable to open sysfs usb node( No such file or directory ). Trying configfs

failed to set driver control: No such device

Now send the package you want to apply to the device with "adb sideload <filename>"..
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rmarinella:
I think you have to step from Oreo to ZRK9 to ZRKJ to ZRKP.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ChadH42:
Yes.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rkennison:
Do it again, it did the same to me. I started over. It worked fine the 2nd time. What I want to know is how the hell can I side load these and NOT wipe the phone. Sucks setting everything up over and over.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] harol_wow:
hello, I'm having a problem, when I try to install beta 3 in 47% it gives error, I can only install from adb, some help?

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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] dogredwing1:
Am I able to update to beta 2 and beyond with sideloading without having to wipe my phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rawdikrik:
Did you read the thread? It depends on what you are actually running right now, and if you get lucky.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] VittoreCarlo:
i have the ARJ6 965U1

How can i go back to the version ARJ2? Thank you very much for your reply.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] SlackingVeteran:
Flash ARJ2 with Odin and factory reset. Else you will see your phone bootlooping forever
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] VICosPhi:
Thanks OP, I flashed it with ARJ7 thinking ARJ7 is latest but phone bootlooped as you had warned. ODIN'd ARJ2 and formatted data, up and running Pie beta 3 now. Liking the new update so far.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
I moved from k9 to kj no issues, but trying to move to kp, when I enter adb mode on my phone, it shows an error before I even attempt to begin the sideload process. Anyone have a resolution to this issue?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shuvabrata:
I have G960F DS version. Would this work?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kdecoteau1:
Hey all. Anyone have a video on how to install Bata 2 and Bata 3 using ADB? Whatever bug in the U1 3ZRK9 build, it keep failing to mount SD-Card. Anyone have a solution?

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Or if there is the U1 3ARJ2 8.0 to U1 3ZRKP 9.0 build, that will be awesome.? I have the Verizon Note 9 running on the N960U1 1ZRKP 9.0 build from U1 1ARJ9 8.1, works excellent. I been using Samsung firmware.science.com, hopefully they update the site with the G965U1 9.0 firmwares.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rafaelox24:
its really easy you just need to install minimal adb and fastboot in your pc, now just follow this steps:

1. Go to dev options in your phone and enable adb debug

2. Open Minimal adb ( its a windows command promt) and connect your phone

3. in the commadn promt write adb devices and clic enter

4. write adb reboot recovery

5. when your phone rebbots into recovery mode select install update with adb

5. in the command window write adb sideload and put the file directory and clic enter.

you can just move the file from the desktop to the command promt windows, but remebember, firts put adb sideload.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jawshdarnit:
had to sideload via adb. I was tired of waiting for the beta to push the OTA updates. I have signed up and am registered for the OTA updates for the One UI Beta.

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Here's a really cut and dry guide on how to sideload via ADB.

https://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-to-install-ota-updates-manually-using-recovery-and-adb-sideload/
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] melonhead7007:
Which carrier are you on ? Im on Jio india with beta 1 running smooth , want to know if beta 3 supports indian carriers ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] SlackingVeteran:
You will have to check bands on your own. If your model worked with Oreo on past, then it should still work. No changes to LTE bands are done.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kdecoteau1:
Thanks big time men, it really works ✌. I follow your instructions and my G965U VZW running full G965U1 3ZRKP 9.0. For all these years I been tinkering with GS1 and Note 2, never install firmware using ADB before, it's freaking easy men. ? thanks again.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rawdikrik:
Can anyone verify if we have Galileo lock on the GPS stuff now? My US version doesnt, but I know they changed the laws and can add it in.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rafaelox24:
Your Welcome! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] leonardojt:
I'm having horrible sound with no bass on speaker, whether playing YouTube, music, or system sounds or apps. Any one experience this? I'm on the beta 3
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] almostvicious:
Dude don't make this mistake, I read your other thread and did ARJ2-ZRK9 and got the Volte working on Jio/Vodafone

Upgraded to beta 2 - Volte disappeared! Jio doesn't work now, Vodafone works on LTE

Upgraded to beta 3 - Volte had disappeared in ZRKJ. Now even LTE is working at half signal strength in Vodafone (This was ZRKP hotfix update)

I used Smart Switch on pc, back to Oreo for now. I'd rather wait for the stable pie update (Expected by Jan-Feb'19)

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Use Smart Switch App on Windows 10/Mac , just connect your phone and you will see an option to downgrade with the latest available stable update (Mine is ARK5).

After that you can flash ARJ2 from Odin again
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] made2kil:
Thanks! This worked great on Verizon going from BRJ6 U > ARJ6 U1 > ARJ2 U1 > Going through all beta builds to 3 using Odin to flash ARJ then using minimal adb and fastboot to get all beta builds. Loving it so far.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rmarinella:
New Beta, hitting now. It is technically Beta 3. The hotfix wasn't officially another release.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Sergykm:
This is not mine, but you can read this.

Anybody know how I can register in Samsung+ for beta testing? It's crashing in Pie :( So I cann't register for beta program.

I just need a new piece of Pie :p Om-Nom-nom
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] SlackingVeteran:
Can't register to beta from pie. have to jump back to Oreo.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] d3adbatt3ry:
Firmware science has uploaded ZRL5

https://firmware.science/download?url=00000/0000/SS-G965U1UEU3ZRKP-to-EU3ZRL5-UP
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Sergykm:
Succesfully updated from version G965U1UEU3ZRKP to G965U1UEU3ZRL5 via adb without any problems. Now I'm testing it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] leonardojt:
Where did you get the update file? Can you share? Are you a registered tester? If yes ? Is the speaker output had been fixed if not can you write to them about sound quality through speakers
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Sergykm:
can you see one message above mine? There's url. Just update via adb.

What's the problem with speakers? I didn't have any problems with my speaker before? The sound quality is very good for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 09halu:
why is everyone complaining about flashing through SD or ABD, instead of trying to registering their program.

I think Flashing is a fun way to do as I am very exciting for new build without losing the data. Not like before, I was flashing the new build to my galaxy s7 active, and I had to install the apps and everything again and again, it was the pain in the ass.

Try to format your micro SD to FAT32, and flashing through recovery mode
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] leonardojt:
Its poor like the speaker is flickering at high volume and losing quality bass, the new built is giving me white notifications instead of black on night mode, any one experiencing this?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rawdikrik:
Not everyone can register through the app... I live in Italy now.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Sergykm:
because when I flash through adb I don't lose my apps. All ok when you flash OTA. But in pie samsung+ doesn't work (it's crashing every time) so I cann't register in beta program.

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Maybe it's strange but I don't have problems with speakers (I'm using only half of full volume because it's so loud) and my notifications is black in night mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Sergykm:
It's my screenshot with notifications color.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] leonardojt:
Even if it's a missed call, I get white notification
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] leonardojt:
This also, irrespective of the app, the app menu is white. Someone verify, also can those that are registered help us report this bug?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 09halu:
Use night mode in nova launcher, it worked for me
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] leonardojt:
Nova launcher looks horrible, the icons to tiny, I uninstalled it immediately, I'm better off with the sammy launcher. But do you experience what I've?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rawdikrik:
Nova allows you to change the size of the icons.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] leonardojt:
I discovered but as paid, and doesn't allow app launcher to have completely black background, and doesn't allow app folder in app launcher. It's just not for me, are experience the white notifications on night mode?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kamrulhasanazad:
I'm also having the same issue. The long press options are white. I faced another bug, I can't open the camera options. The registered users can report the issues. The beta program won't be available in my country, so I can't report at all ????
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Stucane:
No night mode - No problem, guys! ???
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
is there a method to move from star2qltesq to star2qlteue?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ranger2183:
Also, I was on beta 2, and when I tried to update to the hotfix, it freaked out and I had to resort back to Oreo. Now I can't get past Beta 1. Beta 1 installs fine, but theres an error when I try to load Beta 2 through adb. SD won't mount at all for updates, so that's out of the question. Anyone have any insight or a resolution?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Im curious if were on U1 oreo will we be the first to get the official pie update when it comes out?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] todd3835:
The carriers have been mostly beating the U1 on updates so there's a good chance that the U1 won't. Especially since T-mobile is participating, we will likely get an update quick on U.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Well i guess ill flash back to U!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] yeltrah123:
I know this is a thread for U1, but does anyone know the difference between build G965USQU3CRL6 and G965USQU3ZRL5?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LeonardoKurzhals:
I don't know if this will be fixed, but I would really like to see it done. When pulling up the recent apps gesture, the app doesn't shows in a round edge type. Only when it get to final position, the round corners are set. I think this is not pleasant for the eye. Here's a picture:

Once I am in a not supported up date country, there is anyone who can forward this to Sammy?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Stucane:
I agree with you, it hurts! :laugh:

By the way, who's on ZRL5? Does SMS sending work? I have a reception, but there is no sending :(
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bkeaver:
I'm on ZRL5. SMS works fine here.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] craigg1:
Thanks OP for the files and guide.

I downgraded my S9+ to the ARJ2 firmware via Odin, flashed Beta 1 from the SD card, flashed Beta 2, Hotfix, and Beta 3 via ADB side load. Everything seems to be working fine. :o
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rawdikrik:
Where did you get the ARJ2?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] craigg1:
https://mega.nz/#F!3Ukl0QBA!axYqMIhEtgD1jhtZ8bNyBw
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rmarinella:
Dead link, another option? Maybe the original posters thread on XDA?

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s9-plu...-sm-g965u1-t3853429/post77862739#post77862739
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] craigg1:
Try this:

https://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=2C7F1821E22C11E89F15FA163EE8F90B
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Stucane:
Hey guys! Any news about hotfix ZRLA?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] got2trythis:
Waiting for OP #suyash1629 to post. Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] KylesIan:
Hi! Is it safe downgrading from ARK5 to ARJ2 directly or should I downgrade to ARJ6 first, then to ARJ2?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rawdikrik:
Just go all THE WAY DOWN.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] GeoFX:
If you're using ODIN, it doesn't matter what version you downgrade to.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] zinkscott:
Been using ZRL5 for a few days now, no major complaints. Only thing I have found that doesn't work is fingerprint authentication for LastPass autofill, but I reported that to LastPass when I was using Beta 1. Call quality sounds good again, WiFi calling/VoLTE works, and no weird glitches around setting Nova as the default launcher. Battery life does seem slightly worse and there is no vibration/feedback when using gesture controls now.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] todd3835:
Fingerprint for Lastpass has been mostly working for me. Sometimes LP freaks out and logs me all the way out. It was worse on K9 than KP or L5.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rmarinella:
Have searched for ZRLA, haven't seen that as a build anywhere. Current test build is CRLD. Generally, if the next build was going to be a beta, Sammy would designate it ZRLE, with the E following the last test build, D.

Barring any major issues I think the next beta will be out on or near the 24th. We might be a ZRM_ by then.