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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jyavenard:
Well, since I've flashed a ROM with the Radio, I've lost the ability to use the USB port or even charge ...

So if any solutions is found, can you made it available with flashing via microSD ?

Olipro, when you said it's ****ed, do you mean that there's no way to revert that radio ?

Thanks

JY
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irockash:
Think so... like Proper ****ed. Bah, can't believe I actually sell their service. Guess I'll make the most of it and flash one of Alex's roms.

Oh and someone earlier said warranty. Don't they check that though, I think they do... which means it might put you out of warranty by having a different ipl/spl, right? I personally wouldn't risk it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NetrunnerAT:
uhm ... question ... have you look deeper in this radio?

About Softbank and ATT ... yes you have full right. A Company dont like this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cmonex:
what do you mean by that? I disassembled the radio and found the retarded check, didn't go further *yet*.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cmonex:
you can always put the original SPL back (kaiser has no IPL).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jyavenard:
What handles the USB port?

Since flashing that the official AT&T ROM (with that damn radio), I have lost my ability to charge my tyntn2 and it won't connect to the PC.

Interestingly, the HTC USB headset works just fine so physically the USB port seems fine.

I'm wondering why I could try to get my USB port working again ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jyavenard:
does this Radio ROM allow to reflash itself ?

I'm thinking that my issue with non-working flash comes from an incorrect flash of the radio and as such should try to reflash that radio only...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
That would be hard to tell as everyones Flashes Reach 100% but the Radio version doesn't change. If you are flashing the same Radio you can't certain it was the First Flash or the Second. But I'd say try it. :D:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irockash:
Now I'm getting a damn echo...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Olipro:
anyone have QPST and a device they're willing to play with?

I have a program I made... and gave to a select few people that can dump the constituent parts out of a radio NB into their mbn files... so, I want someone to try the QPST Software Download program to have a shot at flashing a partition.mbn, oemsblhd.mbn and oemsbl.mbn to the device, any takers?

if you're willing, and have actually got QPST working with your device, then let's have a shot.

(note: doesn't actually matter what version you're running to try this)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Sure I'll give it a shot, but I don't have QPST, or know what that is.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cyby:
help

Uninstall this power as radio thanks 1.65.17.10
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Olipro:
great, you'll need the QPST suite and the MotoQ drivers; use the forum search :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NetrunnerAT:
QPST -> http://www.4shared.com/file/39567338/2f07f947/QPST_27264.html

Driver -> http://www.4shared.com/file/37767906/f3f2d803/MotoQ_QPST_Drivers.html

QXDM -> http://www.4shared.com/file/39567337/bfb8e4d6/QXDM_30916PRO.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NetrunnerAT:
We can try on a HTC Niki, to reproduce this error is easy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Olipro:
Nike, Neon, Polaris, Kaiser, Sirius, Pharos, Raphael, Diamond, Dream, Omni, Kovsky, Kii, whatever.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cmonex:
you are not reading the posts, are you?

nope, it won't flash.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Try flashing any of the roms that use the new radios, TNT Series, Alex's Newest (since he's stuck on the same radio), and a few others. Also Dutty is releasing new versions of his rom tonight or tomorrow that will work with this radio.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rjlynn:
I'm willin' to help out - my phone is Security Unlocked and I have QPST, but I can't find drivers that work on Vista x64.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] austinsnyc:
I already spend enough time with my Dev buddies thanks but if you would like to use your kaiser as a test machine for trying to get rid of this radio please feel free to join in and help the communite out!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] austinsnyc:
this is going to be a long few weeks while new radios come out and we are all still sitting here stuck on this one :( I hope the fix comes soon if it ever comes at all but the way its looking I don't think its going to be anytime soon!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Worry not Austin! I don't wanna say too much, but there is a tool being worked on that is for fixing another issue that will also allow you to fix this issue, the ppeoblem is you'll have to intentionally brick your device first to use it, but it's a temporary untrue brick, or at least theoretically. I'll be testing it personally shortly, but I do think it will aide in this radio issue s well. Wish me luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
AT&T People, just like someof the 6.0 AT&T radios, this is an AT&T only radio . It will only work on AT&T based roms.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Olipro:
and this comes from the guy who can "only help via MicroSD" meaning you can't help.

don't you think we'd have said you can use MicroSD if you could?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cmonex:
so you did not read the posts from me, jocky and olipro that all say that ATT fully blocked

flashing of radio (if you are ot sec unlocked, and most people sure aren't). it doesn't check radio versions, it just simply will not flash anything. no downgrade, no upgrade.

but if you want more proof - I had AllTheWay try to flash the same radio with 2 bytes difference (I patched it to think it is sec unlocked). it did not flash...because it did not become unlocked. this was of course before realizing that all normal flashing was blocked.

if theres a solution that willl be a bit less trivial.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
That was what I remembered. You can't even Flash it with itself. This Radio Really is the Radio from Hell.

Give it some time my non-English Friend, they are working on a solution.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kwill:
quick question and i couldn't find a thread for the 1.65.14.06 radio. but, i used olipro's second version of the sim unlocker which puts the security level to 0. does this mean the phone is security unlocked. i wanted to check before attempting to flash the above mentioned radio (not 1.65.17.10). thanks in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cmonex:
you must set the security to unlocked permanently so it sticks even after reflashing. you can use Olipro's ATCommander to do that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
If you want the AT@ commander ity is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2030939

The command is: (AT@SIMLOCK=7,0)

Security Unlocked status is confirmed in BL (Tri-Color) with red letters at the top of the screen reading: "Security Unlocked"

You can also use Jocky's SuperCID unlocker found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=361236
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Is there a list of which Radio Versions allow the Perm Security Unlock?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] svcglobal:
ATW, will be my pleasure to add more 50 bucks to this pot.

Just PM me saying to who and when.

Fortunately and thanks to the alerts done, I am not using this damn radio but will be happy to help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jcrompton:
Hey I'll chip in $20 - even though I haven't gotten stuck either
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Carlis:
Hi.

Do U by any chance know the AT command to reverse the Security Unlock ?

To lock it as it was on delivery.

Or any other way to restore it to locked before sending it back for repair if needed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Best bet is using the Radio patched to allow for these commands. Olipros radio for his unlocker is for sure. Otherwise, You'll have to unlock your device first to use it, i.e. with Jocky's SuperCID.

NO Parantheses
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
The candy jar is now up to $270 bucks :)

GSLEON3 any luck with your hypothesis last night?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kwill:
thanks alot for your help again gsleon. ran jockys security unlocker and then used olipro's at command tool (thanks oli!!) and got a response of 0, which i assume means everything went fine. screen now says security unlocked and i assume for good!!! thanks again and will let you all know how the results of flashing the radio's go.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
I aint stuck either, but i promise that the person responsible for fixing this "issue" will recieve a donation from me.

Better yet, I'll go ahead and pledge a minimum of $20, more than likely will be more. RIght now, I have my own "LAVA ISSUE" to deal with but I will still pledge a minimum of $20.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
No dice yet.

ATW

, What did Oli want you to try with QPST??? I have & experienced with it. I can walk you thru it easy. What was the thought though???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Would be great if you had a dump of your NV before installing this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
I'm not sure as of yet. I downloaded all the necessary software to try out. I wasn't around much this weekend to test.

...I have all the software installed and I am ready to go!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jyavenard:
Hum, I don't like the implication of your post ... If microSD can't be used, then I have a useless device now.

That radio killed my USB port.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jyavenard:
I'll add US$100 to that if you can reflash the radio via microSD (my USB stopped working)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
Ok Well If Tater is pledging $20, I'll pledge $30. I'm not trapped in the Radio but I like to reward hard work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dwsco:
Careful guys, our experts are going to sit back for a week or two and watch the pot grow :)

Just kidding... it's great to see the support coming in, especially from those of you who aren't even stuck with this piece of flaming horse$h1t like some of us poor suckers :)

I am also still very willing to test any solutions that are in test mode. I'm not the experienced user that some (like ATW) are, but I can follow instructions and I'm willing to take some risks. Anything to further the cause!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jockyw2001:
See if running JumpSPL gives you USB. So run it, replug the USB cable and check if there is a MS Sync device in device manager or alternatively try to connect with MTTY.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
The Pot is up to $420

LOL the title say's it all. ;)

Thank to all who have pledged so far. Just please be sure to full your commitments :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cmonex:
that screen says it if you have the olinex radio even if you didn't use atcommander so don't be misled by that, but as you used atcommander it will be fine now.

by the way I can post the patched 1.65.17 that thinks it is sec unlocked. so should let you flash to another radio
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jyavenard:
Hi.

Unfortunately, it didn't...

I haven't yet eliminated that it isn't a hardware problem. I flashed the phone with the AT&T ROM at around 3AM, when I finished I went to bed. At that time, I'm 100% sure the USB was working. When I got up it wasn't anymore ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jockyw2001:
Weird. Have you done a hard reset >?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wilsonkaliyati:
You know what, sod it, i'll chip in £20 to whoever can find the solution to our radio "from hell"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jyavenard:
Oh yes, more than I can count :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Nothing as of yet but I have been really busy the past week and half. I can dedicate more time to this now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reitjam:
Sendig mine in back to att

i am sending mine back to att, i asked the guy in the warranty department as plainly vague as i could if it was going to harm me, meaning i may pay for a new phone and he said all they look for is water damage and gouges in the screen. CROSSING MY FINGERS AND MY TOES!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Let me know it goes. How long ago did you buy your phone? Is there a 1 year warranty on all tilts from AT&T.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shutter13:
All "New" Tilts have a 1 yr warranty from AT&T, refurbs are 90 days.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Hmmm well I bought my in July so maybe I should just send it in. What did you tell them when you sent it in? I mean if everything is running good then how will they know that something is wrong with it. Just curious.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reitjam:
will report

one year is still good, i am sending it back in the morning via us mail. i live in Illinois and they are in Texas so i would say about 4 days to get it back and then i have to wait for the bill, i will wait for 2 billing cycles before i am in the clear. however they will contact me if I damaged the phone and can not repair it. keeping in mind that there is no water damage and the screen was protected they shouldn't find anything. what i did was, i flashed to the 6.0 shipped rom, as you know it will not boot that way then i took it to the store and i showed the sales guy my "problem", he looked at it and said, "Oh yeah i can fix that i see it all the time", meanwhile i am thinking "hehe no you haven't" but i play along and he forgot how to hard reset, so i showed him how and i said "oh i forgot to try that". We went through the set up amd then came to the black screen. The sales guy was like Oh, thats not good, we can get that warranted out for you". He got Warranty on the line and did it all until the terms, i agreed because duh and the replacement came today. i was worried about turning it in but i read some threads and i talked to a rep on the phone and i think i am going to do this.

Oh yeah, when i called at first the att phone rep said that i couldn't do the return because the back battery plate tab was broken off. Yes i was playing idiot, she said then she was sorry but there was nothing she could do, but to resolve the issue she was going to give me a Nokia 6510 and close the case. i said i wanted to talk to retention and she hemed and hawed but got me through.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reitjam:
this makes me feel a little better

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=357130

although this is about the rlod the att reps on the forum make me feel better and the high success rates
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RoozbehDream:
Hi GSLEON3. thanks again for all the hard work. did you have any success on finding a solution to get rid of this radio?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reitjam:
brick phone

how can i intentionally brick the phone, i have tried all i know how to do. and it all an easy fix. i would make the warranty easier.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
flash a ROM and then in the middle of it unplug the phone :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reitjam:
did that

you can recover that
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcmexican:
Why dont you try to do what GSleon3 says don't do in this thread?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=372305&highlight=brick

-McMex
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
They'll know you did it though! If they really look. Otherwise sacrifice a USB cable, get some good leather gloves & hook it up to your car battery or put it in the Microwave for 2 seconds. NO MORE THAN 2 SECONDS!

OF COURSE I DON'T REALLY RECOMMEND YOU DO ANY OF THE ABOVE & IF YOU DO IT"S AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!

THEY ARE JUST SCENARIOS & WHILE THEY WOULD WORK ARE MEANT TO BE FUNNY! ;)

What you do with them is your problem! ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
The reps from AT&T's warranty replacement group aren't too bright. I have been through at least 20 exchanges in the last 5 years, and each time they never picked up on any of the mods I made to the phones.

I'll admit that I haven't had to exchange my Tilt yet (knock on wood), but I don't think their techs got much smarter since I exchanged my 8125 for the last time in October of last year... in preparation for selling it of course.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
LOL, it wont work on mine. Oil dissipates heat.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] axeman:
what if u just dose it with static electricity? wont that kill the would-be-brick? :rolleyes: leaving no traces behind....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Just change the SPL back to the original. Flashing a ROM when it's at 50% unplug the cord. All the phone will read is the SPL and the RUNNBH. Do you really think they will flash another ROM to see what ROM and radio you have?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aberz:
Lol , reading this thread is so much fun. Should change the title to " how to brick your Kaiser for an exchange "

Wonder what happen if any peep in HTC trolling this thread.

If you want that to get a new phone that bad, sell it. Ebay, craigslist .... anything will do.

I dont consider this as a bad karma , cuz you are not selling a defected device :P . Hey, its get the newest radio !!!. Newbie dont bother with radio anyway lol .

If you need help selling your phone on ebay , lemme know , I will show you some cool trick.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reitjam:
agreed

agreed, att are a bunch of ass holes, i wanted to brick the phone but its been sealed and i could cut it out but i am lazy, lets hope att warranty is too. to be honest they should give me a new phone whenever i want, i have, through various means 11 wireless contracts a home phone and a dish contract, the wireless all have data, so they are making money hand over fist off me and the people i brought over from sprint.

the contracts are as follows:

Me as primary account holdeer

1. Me-wireless data+text

wife-wireless data+text

spare-wireless(so i could get the tilt)

second plan me as primary, sister has bad credit ie me=no deposit

2. My sister- Wireless+Text

Her husband-Wireless+text

sisters home phone

att dish agreement

3. Friend one as primary:

Friend Wireless data+text

friends mom wireless data+text

friends dad wireless data+text

friends brother wireless data+text

4. Friend two as primary

Friend Wireless data+text

Friend secondary Wireless

Friends daughter 1 Wireless data+text

Friends daughter 2 Wireless data+text

15 service lines for att started because of my jump to att from sprint in 2004

well i take it back my wife had a line before since 2000 with them and always had a new phone, never on a new contract, just paid retail for it and never did rebates

in other words TONS OF FREAKIN CASH.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] austinsnyc:
back on topic please ad for those of us that don't have tilts we are stuck with this. so keep that pot growing and lets figure out how to get passed this small issue of STUCK ON THIS DAMN RADIO!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Austinsnyc if you happen to get a hold of GSLEON3 he may have something that might work. I haven't been able to get a hold of him as of recent, but if you do let me know how it goes.

EDIT: Well I can't wait anymore I am going to call AT&T in the morning and exchange my tilt. It's still under warranty.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SH4YD33:
Lol.. you should have been done this.. Anyways ATT is getting more strict with the returns. They asked me to goto the device settings and tell me the rom version and date. And kept asking me if i flashed any non att roms... heh

They also said they had software on their end that could tell what rom you were using...? But she couldnt tell i was running dutty.

The key is to act like the average user. They will ask you to hard reset over the phone. And try to do some basic troubleshooting..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LunaC:
Is the flash mem on chip or separate? Might be a good time to inspect the hardware to determine the layout. If standalone, find a local SMT bench and replace. If possible socket it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gspro2000:
So I just called yesterday to RMA the phone since radio is not compatable with roms in the fact that silent vibrate and voice command still do not function properly.

ATT told me I put me sim in a stolen phone and I must mail back to them before and RMA can be done. I told them I do not have the phone and if they want I can mail back a box with a piece of paper saying the IMEI on it to float there boat.

evenually then RMA it and comes over night.

Playing the B$ system to get new phone - Priceless
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aberz:
Thats what I talked to him last night. Hope AT&T doesnt go anal about replacing new phone.

ATW told me that he would receive the new phone first before ship back the old one, which is pretty strange to me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] austinsnyc:
well I hope everyone doesn't give up on this since this might start being something that all new radios come with and then we are all **** out of luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
Know how to get around this? Go to HTC America's site and go to the download page of the latest "official" ROM. They post screenshots with the ROM version and date.

That's how I always did it with my 8125.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
I hope so too. I'm still down for $50 whenever someone does figure it out. Hopefully soon, i miss my niki radio. At least there's a lot of new roms out that are compatible right now :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
I agree but in the mean time I want to have a phone that will be able to upgrade radio's if need be and one that is Security Unlocked. My new phone should be here on Monday.

I also ordered a StarTrek phone in the mean time as a backup phone. :)

Let the flashing begin :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Hey guys, I believe I'm getting close! So here's the deal. I'm flashing this radio to a Locked OEM SPL device tonight & will be working on this over the weekend. I have the theory nailed down, I believe, so now it's time to guinea pig it, on myself unfortunately for me. Now maybe you understand why there are so many dead devices in my signature!

Anyways, wish me luck, 'cause the last thing I need is another RIP added to my sig. :D