yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Ok, I'm uploaded Just2Clean Wing - zcink Edition.

It's got internet sharing included but not TaskManager/X-Button.

Tell me if it works, I didn't get a chance to test it, personally.

As a side effect, it should give you like 600k more free...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zcink:
I'm Downloading right now

This is exciting Ivan -- Thanks

I owe you one!

I will let you know how everything works.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zcink:
Wow !!!!

I've just downloaded and flashed it. Did a hard reset, added my PBar 1.5 (Thanks for removing X-Button) and this is what I'm getting.

Storage Memory 64.57 Program 29.79 Free

That is amazing Ivan. I absolutely Love this. Internet Sharing works great -- I'm online with is now.

This is truely a micro / superclean rom. I've been waiting for this one for a long long time.

Everything I need I can install to the Storage Card from cab files. That is sooo cool. What's really nice is as apps get updated, you don't need to worry about them being baked into the rom cuz they're not there.

Thanks Ivan!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zcink:
No HTC home, No Cube, No sliding sounds -- this is really awesome!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] shep211:
Quote from vanmmj

To flash it you MUST have a HardSPL'ed Herald or Wing and a microSD card. Just place the HERAIMG.nbh into the SD card's root directory. Do NOT rename it to anything else. Then hold the camera button down while you turn on the device and then press the volume down slider when it asks you to. Wait until it says it's done. I haven't tried to run any activesync other than to an exchange server so tell me if that isn't working.

I have hardspl installed and have tested with other roms. I formatted my micro sd card to fat32. I copyed HERAIMG.nbh into the SD card's root directory. I hold the camera button down while I turn on the device and says reading sd card then it says someting something failed in red but flash's to bootloader to fast to see it all. This all happens with in 2 secs. Any idea on how to fix this?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zcink:
Can you still boot into your previous rom?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] shotya9times:
Yea i cannot get it to install i Hard SPL'd . then formated my memory cards( 512 and 1 gig ) and it says searching then goes into the bootloader ..never ask me about installing it
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moullas:
Hi there...

Tried installing as well

These are the things i tried:

1)IvanMMJ method:

I copied it to my 2Gb SD card, root folder

Rebooted while pressing the camera button

While starting up, for 1 second it shows a message that said "Searching SD", then went into the bootloader

Update: Also tried formatting the card and having on it just the .nbh file, + my UC cabs and SDConfig.txt *only*, still no dice

2)USPL

Copied it into the RUU folder

Followed all the steps till the RUU flasher came up

Gave a message "Corrupted Image", and then rebooted back to my rom

So... all in all i couldn't get it to flash

As a note, i'm tunning TouchIT 7 by itje, don't know if this has anything to do with it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zcink:
wondering if this makes a difference?:

When I use my 8 GB micro SDHC card, this method does Not work.

However, when use a 1 GB micro non-HC card, it works great!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moullas:
so the solution would be to use a non HC card?

I think my 2Gb Sandisk falls into the SDHC category right??
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Did you unzip the file and place HERAIMG.nbh into the SD card? Or the ZIP'd file?

Also, your SD card might not be fast enough for the bootloader. There's an article here somewhere about that and about how you can format the card into multiple SMALLER partitions and create a partition small enough so that it can be read super quickly.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Great to hear!

I gotta figure out where those 2MB of free RAM went from the previews build... lol I'm also wondering if its worth pursuing 70mb of storage?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] CommZ:
It is. Milestones are always worth pursuing :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] shotya9times:
ok i found out what was the problem my SD card was formatted to FAT .. once i formated it to FAT32 it worked like a charm. this is a nice and fast rom will be testing over the next week to see about the stability
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zcink:
Been running all over town today before my trip. This rom works great!

Whatever you took out is stuff I don't need or use.

This rom combined with the new radio is really nice.

yeah go for the 70mb Free -- lets see how small we can go before we have to start adding things back in.

This is by far the fastest rom on the market for the Wing/Herald!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] shep211:
Using lexar 1 gb micro sd card. It should be non hc. Will try to make 50 mg fat32 using this method http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-267475.html

Edit: ok so this is how to get it working. Make a 256 mb size partion with 1024 cluster size using http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-267475.html method.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Glad to hear that! :D

Ok, 70MB free is my next goal! That and the kitchen... I might have to UPX a few things, though.

Glad to hear it running quickly, too. How do you like the new ROM? Any reviews? (I may use it for the next release if it's worth it.)

Thanks for the info! I'll add it to the main post.

Btw, zcink, how much free program memory did you have when you booted it clean? I have a theory about UPX and memory and I'm just wondering because you're not using TaskManager.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] CommZ:
I'm just dl'ing it.

I was waiting for the kitchen though. I hope it will come soon. Running my own personal ROM is so addictive feeling :)

EDIT: Nice mirror, ivan. File hosting services suck :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zcink:
Clean I got Storage 64.57 Program 30.79 Free

I put PBar 1.5 in Windows/Startup -- Turned on my T-Mobile Data connection to always on (Thanks for making the default T-Mobile settings).

Then I put TCPMP Player on the Storage Card with all the pluggins and put all the Stations I like in .pls files in Windows/Start Menu so when I click on them they open in TCPMP Player.

That's all I've done so far. Besides making phone calls - This rom you actually make phone calls, everything is very smooth and fast.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zcink:
I'm trying to think of what else you could take out to get to 70. Only your all black Today theme is fine but don't know how much taking out the windows default would save.

I can do without the Calendar also - again it probably doesn't take much room though.

Everything else looks like you Need in there. I think its just about the limit stripped down.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I'm gonna UPX some of the files instead and see what I get because I ran out of things to delete... lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] CommZ:
Hmm, it seems my card is badly formatted. I will give it another try on monday.

Maybe you could kill PIE and Media Player. Nobody really uses them anyway :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moullas:
Have to disagree about PIE, the latest one in Win 6.1 is really usable, for casual browsing it's more than enough.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I thought about it... but replacing IE with the newest version of opera mini (as 4.1 can actually download files) and getting rid of Media Player, BUT media player is needed to play ringtones (unless I can find which files are responsible for it) and both of them just seem too integrated into windows mobile. I may convert them into files, though, instead of modules and compress them... but I'm not sure if that would have any negative impacts...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] towenk3:
Success!!!!

Very strange... I've been trying to flash this rom from my sd w/o success. Been trying for days. Tried formatting, partitioning, from touch-it 7.0 (awesome, by the way), then from canonyang hard-spl. Never would do anything except boot normally when holding camera. Decided to start from scratch w/ the T-Mo rom, except when I started the ruu, 3 or 4 steps in, error screen on cpu. Looked at my phone and there's the "update sd?" I've longed for. Not sure what it means, but may help others looking for

some

solution. Thanx to everyone on these forums for being cool.:cool: Peace...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Kelvino9:
Please leave mediaplayer inside, ivan.

I caught myself more often using media player than I ever thought I would.

Not the best program, but way more convenient to use if you set everything right.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
If you used canonyang's hard-spl, then by using tmobile's ROM, it gave you an error and but it forced you to go into your bootloader. Holding the camera WHILE you power it on, is supposed to boot into your bootloader.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] slimag:
well i haven't been here for a while...

i understand that uncooking and cooking rom with core/justclean will undo bigstorage? ive running now my rom from beta2 and it has no problems at all (3 softresets for a month) and got 32mb ram with 7mb pagepool... but 60mb of sotrage is fine too ;)

when can we download new kitchen?

have thinking about deleting in rom camera drivers (3mb ramo more) and placing cab with reg keys for those who want to use camera?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] waynehathaway:
This is killer storage. I might give it a try. Does it have tochflo (no cube)?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
All my ROMs have BioTouch (Cubeless touchflo) I wouldn't leave home without it. :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] b.mann:
None of the above worked for me.

Using a Transcend 4 gb micro

Any suggestions? I already messed up my other card:(
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] madcow_mda:
ROM info

could anybody give some info on the ROM please?

what programs are installed? (i figured out MMS was installed, how about office, games, etc)

how big is the pagepool? 6MB?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kidnamedAlbert:
this is a SUPERCLEAN rom i doubt that there will be games. office....i dont know.

pagepool is probably 4
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Exactly. A superclean ROM will always be stripped of anything and everything that's not part of the core OS. Anything else, you add yourself.

The pagepool is indeed 4.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] MadMichi:
First of all: ivanmmj, i love your work!! Thanks for sharing with us :)

I've got the same problem with my 4Gig micro. I tryed to partition the micro sd 1024/standard and 256/1024 but the bootloader doesn't find the HERAIMG.nbh :(

I also tryed rru, but size failure at 4%...

Is there any way without buying a non sdhc? I'd love to have the ultra clean rom on my xda terra :cool:

greetz MadMichi
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] zcink:
This rom is exactly what I've wanted for soooo long. Awesome. Love it. Been using for over a week now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
Nevermind, I just realized where I got the file
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] sprashant123:
Any chance of you releasing a Just2Clean - zcink Edition for the Herald? :)

regards

Prashant
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] premiumg:
Does this ROM handle MMS text ok?

Also, does it have voice command?

How would you turn off applications without the Task manager, X button?

Also, does this ROM work ok with the Wing's keyboard? Or was it made for the Herald's keyboard? (because i read that the special chars. were a little different)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
Had to try out the new ROM.

With everything installed I still have 30+ storage left.:D

No calculator was brilliant, I always felt a little funny installing gCalc and have two calculators.

Running smooth! I feel the same way as zcink about updating progs.

Nice work, Ivan!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Yea, shouldn't be a problem. At the moment, I'm working on the kitchen port, though. Once this is released, you can even make a sprashant123 version for yourself, too. But I will try to get some time to upload the Herald edition. :-)

Yes, I'm a heavy MMS user.

No, it's a Clean ROM. It has nothing but the bare necessaries.

WM6.1 comes with a nice TaskManager. It's in your programs menu and your settings/system menu. This is only if you run the zcink version. If you don't, you WILL HAVE the X-Button/TaskManager.

I release for both devices. You will see I released two ROMs, one with the Wing keyboard driver and one with the Herald keyboard driver. The zcink is only a Wing version, though. I might be the only person who releases for both and not for one or the other.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] premiumg:
Can someone post a step by step on how to flash this ROM?

I've flashed Open Touch before using Herald-USPL-Beta3 and it worked.

However, when I use Herald-USPL-Beta3 with this, I get invalid image size.

I've also tried putting this in my microSD card and hold down camera button while turning on the phone, but I also get an invalid certificate error of some sort.

Do I have to put in Hard-SPL on my phone?? In this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=332413, there is a big MOD warning:

"MOD WARNING: There are reports of this damaging phones, DO NOT USE until a fix is provided."

EDIT: Found Hard-SPL here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=358225

Steps for others peeps that might be in my shoes:

1- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=358225 (install Hard-SPL by installing the 3 cab files mentioned, then running the Rom Update Utility)

2- Install this clean ROM on microSD formatted FAT32 into the root folder.

3- hold down the camera button while turning on the Wing.... when prompted, slide the volume bar down.

How do I flash this??
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] premiumg:
Very fast and sleek... Tons of RAM. I definitely feel my Wing is faster.

Also, thanks for using the splash screens that you did. I can't stand non-OEM looking splash screens!!! The ones in this ROM are perfect.

But......

Where can I find the OEM calculator? (EDIT: found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2157814, needed this: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3c6b-42f1-9fd9-0041345b3385&displaylang=en)

Now... now do I get office installed? :) (EDIT: found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=371381_

Anyone know where I can download the default Wing ringtones?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] knaps:
hard spl my phone followed the instructions , but the phone stays in bootloader. :mad:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
It's been a while since I Hard-SPL'd my phone. "Check if SPL now is 4.70.yang"

If that is what you see on your bootloader screen; SUCCESS! You are ready to flash any ROM.

The process doesn't put a ROM on your phone it just makes it so you CAN put a new ROM on.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I hope you did not have an existing SPL of 1.x but instead one of 4.x. If you read the HardSPL thread, it warns against HardSPL'ing a 1.X device.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] knaps:
yup reads 4.70 yang .

IPL 4.10.0002 .. if that helps.. lol
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
Step 2

Ok, the Hard-SPL is done, Follow the instructions ivan has posted in post #1 and you should end up with a Super clean ROM on your phone .
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] RSkillz:
/cartman: "...sweeet"
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] MadMichi:
Last week i bought a cheap 1GB non hc microSD to get j2c flashed on my terra finaly.

Put the .nbh into root -> bootloader -> nothing -> :mad:

Formatted the card to 256MB -> bootloader -> works -> :cool:

Thanks so much Ivan! Its clean, its fast, its good :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] b.mann:
Did you just format and mount the partitons, or just reformat and partition?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] MadMichi:
I did it like discribed here: [HOWTO] Partition SD card.

Mounted the Card with WM5torage, used disc manager and deleted partition.

Right clicked unallocated, chooseed new partition and formatted FAT32 256MB Default Cluster... i think... ;)

Good luck

MadMichi
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] waynehathaway:
First off, thanks for such a clean ROM. I've been using it since the beginning of last week with no issues. I have Good Mobile Messaging for work e-mail, and it consumes 20M of memory, so a super clean ROM is what I need.

I was wondering what reg edit is needed to remove the single icon tray at the bottom? It looks like a black mobile phone with a thin red circle around the top half. What is its function?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
It's the software that allows you to hold the comm manager button to mute the device. Hold it and unmute the device and you'll see what I mean.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] waynehathaway:
Is there a way to disable it from coming on?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Doing so will disable the ability to mute by holding the comm manager. I'll post the directions on how to do it when I'm near my PC. It's a file you have to create that the system will see and bypass that function with.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] rifinyc:
After flashing this rom my T-Mobile wing doesnt want to connect to GPRS EDGE network, it says "remote party had disconnected" or "cannot connect due to unknown reasons", is it the rom, or is there something wrong with T-Mobile
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
It's shouldn't be the ROM. It's what I use and mine is working fine. Make sure your proxy settings are setup correctly if you're using Tzone. If they are, then it might be tmobile.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
OK I guessd I missed this rom ... Downloading now ready to test ..... Lets see some of your great work tonight....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
haha, I thought you wanted to learn my cooking ways BECAUSE of this ROM. I gotta get off my lazy butt and break 70mb free. As it stands, I currently hold the record anyways, so I'm not in a rush. :-p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
Hey ivan .. A question ,,,, As I just downloaded all 3 versions I see no difference in the herald and the wing versions I downloaded . Is there a difference or is there a problem in 1 of the 2 versions .... once extracted both versions say "HERAIMG.nbh" and they both have same exact size.

edit : Ok ... Let me find out I can only install via - sd card ..... LOL ... I'm a noob ... LOL
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
Ok no good in the flashing area for me :( .. Yes my card is partioned correctly . No I didnt do it with widows which is a curse word when working on hard drives I used linux. The sd card is only 1gig in size so make it smaller to what .. lol ...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
What happens is that if the card isn't fast enough, the bootloader will not detect the HERAIMG file quickly enough. That's why you should make the partition as small as possible to prevent having to search much. Make sure it's set to FAT32, as well. The only difference between the Herald and Wing versions is the keyboard driver and thus the keyboard layout. The other version has INTERNETSHARING and lacks x-button.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
OK let me look for a 128mb sd card I know I have 1 somewhere around here.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
ok ... i GOT IT .......... Looking good so far ..... now let the rom testing begin ....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Cool. Tell me what you think. ^_^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
Oh got a big review for you mate ..... Been banging it like crazy since I figured it out ........ Should be done in about 30 - 45 minutes .....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] b.mann:
What should be considered "fast enough"?

And what size should I aim to create?

I've been trying to partition my card within the past several weeks, yet it will never fully partition what I need...normally after creating and mounting one partition, my computer tells me it needs to restart to finish the other jobs, yet never does!

Sorry to be such a bother with this...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Great to hear that it worked with no major bugs! The reason for the MMS version, the dialpad and everything else is space. All items were chosen because they were the smallest in their class. Thanks for reviewing my ROM! Maybe more people will come to see that it doesn't explode on contact. :-p

What OS are you running?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
I am glad you are happy . Thats always good to hear. Well it seems to be a perfect base rom to work from. Like setting up a phone to just do basic tasks and have plenty of memory and speed to play with . Looking forward to your next release.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I will be releasing this as base kitchen folders tonight so that you can at least you can try to add whatever applications you need.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
Thats the hard part . Figuring out which applications you want to add. LOL . I always have that issue but since I am a flash-a-holic I test so much software that I sometimes forget which program or version I prefer.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] sprashant123:
Could you let me know the settings you used to format your card. I too had tried keeping the HERAIMG.nbh on the Storage card and followed instruction, keep the Camera button pressed -> Soft reset -> keep camera button pressed till you see instructions on a white screen n then use the volume slider, but it never changed after the boot loader colored screen.

regards

Prashant
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
I formatted it as a fat32.

I dont use windows at all its a waste of time .... Maybe you arent use to linux but you can use any live cd which will run on your machine and use a program called gparted or what ever program for partionediting it come with . o make it easy there is a free cd you can download to do this with . You then use the partion software on any machine that has a bootable rom.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
A flash-a-holics dream.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
You're scary.......ok, maybe I'm a little jealous. Just gotta ask, was the picture taken with yet another smartphone; or did you bother with a digital camera?

I think we have the same computer case......:cool:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
I used a camerato take the picture. But that was a better idea should have used another smart phone.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kidnamedAlbert:
hmm the one on the left just hard-spl'd, middle has a custom rom already, one on the right looks dead(???)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
Any try to install Windows Live Search on this rom? I get errors no matter what way I try to run it.

Any help would be appreciated. This is the only application I need to complete my setup.

Edit I also have a problem with "Advanced Configuration Tool".

The file 'LiveSearch' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Make sure you install NETCF on this ROM if you're going to use any programs that require it. I think those programs may require it. :-)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neiltoe:
Thank YOU I knew it was something simple.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] b.mann:
Last XP 17.2.2 It's a modified version of XP. Runs just as good as legit XP

I haven't tried to partition on a normal comp at school, maybe I should try that?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Use WM5torage and lock the SD card as a non-removable device. Then partition only PART of it (about 50mb should be enough for any SD-required ROM.) Make it FAT32. (If you don't set it as a non-removable device, you cannot partition through the disk manager in the administrative tools in the control panel.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PURESKILLZZZ:
Very true .. But 1 note most people dont realize that their memory card is only fat16 . Thats the actual standard people...... So a brand new card never used may not even flash correctly unless re-formatted as fat 32 ... Easieast way is copy whole card to a folder on desktop ... reformat card then copy all back ...

Even horrible windows can do that with no special tools ...