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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
thought I described the problem in the first post? Ok...let me try to elaborate...

Currently ROM is Duttys_WM6.1_5.2.19716_1.64.08.21...camera function for taking pictures is fine. However, the video capture mode only produces video with green pixelated garbage. The audio portion of the video works fine though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Update...using Duttys_WM6.1_Official_5.2.19209_1_58_16_27 [FIX] and still the same problem. Reverting back to stock ROM to see if it still has a problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Wonderful...still getting pixel rubbish on video with stock ROM and radio...looks like I'll be calling ATT for a new phone again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mccune:
I'm afraid your phone is indeed the problem :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Yup :( already called ATT and got a replacement coming.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GuySparkz:
why does the screenflash a few times when i turn on the camera? is this normal
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mccune:
This is not normal... ...it's normal that you see the brightness is set to max when you start the camera...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GuySparkz:
it dims then brightens like its adjusting
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mccune:
I think you mean the camera itself is dimming first.. ..this is probably because of the sensor.. ..of course it's adjusting to the ammount of light in the surrounding...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] curtislanham:
Sorry for the late post, but I have discovered that I am having the same problem. I have tried several of Dutty's ROM's with different radios, but still the same thing. Either garbled video or a blank green screen with working audio. I think I am going to revert back to full stock (SPL, ROM, etc.) and post the results. I could have sworn the video recording was fine prior to custom flashing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Well, since it has been brought back up, then I might as well post an update now rather than later.

I got my new phone in and checked to make sure the camera was working on all settings and captures modes. Went straight for Dutty's newest ROM and bam, no video recording capability. Same with Alex's and L26's. I even tried earlier versions of Dutty's ROMS going back to March but still no luck.

However, I flashed NoThrill's ROM (from here) and everything worked fine. I can't exactly explain why it is...this is not my area of technical expertise.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Oh, also to note...flashing back to the stock ROM didn't fix the problem in my previous phone...though, I don't remember if I tried a different radio with it or not? So just keep that in mind if you're thinking about going back to stock.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] curtislanham:
Update: Flashed back to an AT&T Windows Mobile 6 ROM (CE OS 5.2.1622 Build 18128.0.4.4) that I found on the AT&T site. I haven't changed the SPL (still using HardSPL) and the camera (for video) now works! No garbled, pixelated crap, and no solid green crap either. I recorded a 5 second clip, and played it back perfectly on the device and on the PC. The ROM I used was RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09R2_Ship.exe. I think that it is safe to say that it is not a phone issue since _h4x0r_ has received a new phone and confirmed the same problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
I too don't get any video using Dutty's Rom with my new tilt. I think It's a plan from at&t to screw us over. Bastards. I have a MSM7201 in this tilt and my old one with a working camera had a 7200. That may be the problem. There is definitely something too this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Curtis, good to hear you got it working with that ROM...incidentally, I used the ATT ROM listed in the warranty recovery thread.

From here I would be currious as to what's going on with these new ROMs and ppl's Tilts? Seems like there's only a smattering of issues on this topic. I recall another member having the same problem in another thread, but don't remember their name.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
It's very likely that at$t is trying to make sure we don't want to flash to any other rom then their own. Look at the problems with their newest radio. It's lock the ones who've flashed it to it. They can't change to a new radio. This is certainly related. What chip do you guys have? 7200 or 7201?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
gah...I know this is a nub question, but where can I find my chip info? I'm still VERY new to all this >.<
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] curtislanham:
Settings - System tab - About - Version tab

It should say Processor: MSM7XXX-XXXMHz

FYI I installed Kyphur's XDA-Live 2.0a ROM, and the video camera works, as long as you rename the recorded file. Change the extension from mp4 to 3gp. Note: The ROM is extremely light, and you will have to install the HTC Camera software. I used version 5 that was provided in his ROM link.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Well my chip is the 7201, but unfortunately I have no idea what my previous phone's chip was. I'm about to test out HyperDragon II (with his 24PP tool) which is based off of NoThrill's ROM, so in theory it should work :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Well the HyperDragonII ROM didn't work :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
I'm quite sure you had a 7200 in your old phone. It was pretty recent that at$t made this change to their Tilts. We should find a solution.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
What version of the camera did you install? It might be related.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
I've been using what came on the ROMs...HTC Camera 5.04 (build 29195). I thought that might have been the issue as well, but being as all the ROMs I've tried (including NoThrill's, obviously) have used the same camera, I ended up ruling that one out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] arsunist:
Ok, so I've been scouring the forums for info on this problem as I've been having it too. I can also confirm that after flashing NoThrills WM 6.1 WWE *English* V3 , the video camera is working again.

According to this ROM, I have the 7201 processor as well. What's weird is that I tried flashing an old AT&T ROM before I found this thread: RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.57 - Originaly Shipped AT&T ROM.exe

and it told me my processor was 7200 (maybe it was unable to list anything higher?)

Anyway, I guess we can update people in the other threads about this and hopefully someone with a lil more know-how can narrow down what the specific cause for this issue is...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Have you tried Kyphur's ROM? curtislanham flashed that and was able to get his videos to work after renaming their extention.

That's also an interesting note about your processor model. Did your video capture work after you flashed back to the ATT ROM?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jstuart83:
i too have this problem brand spaking new tilt had it for one day got it monday flashed duttys rom on tues day and i have the same problem its not the phones its something in the roms maby the new tilts don't like i flashed alexes cube rom and got the same thing
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Hmmm, how recently have other people purchased their Tilts? I wonder if this isn't something on newer phones?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jstuart83:
bought mine on Monday flashed on Tuesday i had a tilt before about 6 months ago bought an Icrap 16GB (wile dodging bullets) and came to the conclusion it sucks and bought a new tilt. and have the same problem no mater which rom/ radio i use
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
I've updated the initial thread with info from here for anyone just coming in on the topic...

While I understand that posting in the ROM's threads is ideally what should take place if someone is having trouble, it seems that it would be rather confusing trying to track all those threads at once. It would be nice if we could get the various ROM devs in on this in one place.

What I find really confusing is the instance where the HyperDragon II ROM didn't work (for me at least) being as it is based off of NoThrill's ROM, which IS working! Both are using the same camera and the same radio, but somewhere in between the two there is SOMETHING preventing the video recording. I would venture a guess that whatever the differnce is in this regard -might- be what is keeping other ROMs from working as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stuff:
I'd just say there's something different with the new production of the at&t tilts.

I doubt at&t added a booby-trap to destroy our cameras though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] arsunist:
I think it's already been confirmed, but I'll confirm it as well:

The older Stock AT&T ROM I downloaded from somewhere off this forum (file name RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.57 - Originaly Shipped AT&T ROM.exe) did not work in terms of fixing the video camera issue. On top of that, it listed my processor as 7200.

I flashed with the newer:

RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09R2_Ship.exe

And the video camera works flawlessly as the day I got my tilt (which was about a month ago).

Seems a slight change in the phones has occurred to cause this issue in most of the cooked ROMS being put out right now. Hopefully someone will be able to pinpoint exactly what it is....

For now all we have to go on is the models with the 7201 processor. Anyone that mentions they have a newer tilt and has now problems, please double check the processor to make sure it lists 7201 and not 7200. That way we know whether or not checking the processor is a reliable method of predicting whether there will be a problem or not...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] arsunist:
Ok, I gave up on trying to fix the video camera for now and flashed back to Dutty's V2 Hybrid. I decided to check my device information and it lists me as having a 7200, NOT a 7201. But I know that when I flashed the latest AT&T Rom, I was listed with 7201. Perhaps this may or may not have some relevance to my previous finding that the older stock AT&T Rom that did not fix my video camera was also listing the processor as a 7200. Oh well, I love Dutty's Rom and I don't record videos with the phone (atleast it's rare) so it's not a huge issue for me. I just get irked once in a while knowing something is broken. Just have to get over it :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Yeah I understand where you're at with that...I'm actually very pleased with my NoThrill's ROM right now. I'm going to try see what I can come up with in regards to the HyperDragonII ROM...perhaps a thorough examination of the differences between that and NoThrill's ROM will yield some results regarding why the camera stops working from point A to B. If something turns up, I hope (as I said earlier) that it will be something we can correct on these other ROMs to get them working as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
NoThrills WM 6.1 WWE *English* V3 works with my 7201 Tilt. Dutty's was not.... :(

NoThrills is good but i still miss Dutty sometimes...

Just to recap. My new Tilt with a MSM7201 did not record the video from the camera with anything but the stock ROM and now NoThrills ROM. I'm using NoThrills and now it's working fine with NoThrills ROM. There is a difference somewhere. A heads up for future ROM cooking.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Good to hear that...he doesn't know it yet, but I'm going to try and get with Sajakati (HyperDragon ROM chef) at the beginning of the week and see if we can figure out why this works here but not in his ROM :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sakajati:
Hmm .. maybe it has something to do with TyTNII_Photo Quality. I've included this fix in HyperDragon II. Now if you are using NoThrill's rom please try install TyTNII_Photo Quality.CAB, see if the camera still working. Or if you are using HyperDragon II you can try install the attached cab to restore the original cif.dll.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Hey Sakajati,

Thanks for the quick response :) I'm going to be out tomorrow with a funeral (oh goody) so I won't be able to test this until later...can anyone else in the meantime (that was having trouble) give this a try? Here's the link to the HyperDragon ROMs...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=386519&page=1

I am curious to know if all the HyperDragonII ROMs have this difficulty with video, but primarily just the CE OS 5.2.19202 build
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
Tried it with my NoThrills ROM. I had an issue where the video was just not being recorded before I found NoThrill's ROM. I have a MSM7201. It would record video with the stock ROM and NoThrills. Not on any other.

After installing this cab it would still record the video but it was very pixelated and you had now idea what it was. Uninstalled it and it was working well again.

This is what I saw after I installed it. Ignore the beeps. They were real.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Huh...interesting. Hopefully looks like it might have something to do with the TyTNII photo quality cab.

Pending my work load tomorrow I'll see about flashing the HyperDragon ROM to test with fix listed above...hopefully the video capture will work :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
It's possible this may fix your problem seeing as how it basically gave me your problem. lol.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sakajati:
Which cab did you install, TyTNII_Photo Quality.cab or SJ CIF_314.cab?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
@Sakajati: I was under the impression that Macgyvec3 installed the TyTNII photo cab and ended up getting the garbled video.

@Macgyvec3: Yeah that was my thought as well :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
TyTNII_Photo Quality.cab
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
That's correct.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] arsunist:
Anyone get a chance to test Hyperdragon w/ SJ CIF_314.cab to see if this fixes the camera?

I figured I'd try SJ CIF_314.cab on Dutty's ROM (just on the basis that perhaps the problem is the same so maybe the solution MIGHT be the same). But that just caused the camera to say that it couldn't be initialized at all. :-P Not being able to use the camera at all is a lil worse than not being able to record video, heh.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
I've been swamped with work and haven't had a chance to flash HyperDragon yet...

My question to you, arsunist, did you try a different radio at that point? I ask because that sounds like the sort of error you get when your radio is incorrect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] arsunist:
ooo good question. I shall go try that right now then....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] arsunist:
Tried NIKI 1.58.16.27 and also the radio included in NoThrill's ROM 1.65.14.06. Both still give me the "Unable to initialize camera. Failed to set up the camera device" message.

Odd thing is that if I remove CIF_314.cab, the 1.65.14.06 radio makes the camera unusable. There's no initialization error msg but the picture is pitch black and when I attempt to just take a picture anyway, it just hangs for a while and eventually tells me I can't capture an image. This radio worked fine with NoThrill's ROM loaded though.

Switching back to 1.64.08.21 brings me back to square one where I can at least see what I'm recording even though the output will be gibberish.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Interesting notes again.

I'm going to flash HyperDragon now and see how it handles the CIF_314.cab
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Sajakati,

Alright...tried HyperDragon with the CIF_314 fix and got a failure to initialize camera error, so I tried some different radios...neither 1.65.14.06, 1.64.08.21, or 1.58.21.23 would work...still the same error.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sakajati:
Huh looks like we need to re-initialize/configure the camera. I'll figure it out later since it's a little bit tricky to do it. The easiest way to replace it is to cook it and rebuild the rom. :D

So here ya go buddy, I have replaced the cif.dll in this rom with v3.14: http://www.sendspace.com/file/m4eskz. Let me know how it goes!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
awesome...will test this out and get back to you :)

thanks for your working on this with us :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Ok...good news here, it worked :) I also noted that the file size was MUCH smaller in comparrison to previous videos I had taken of the same duration and resolution quality. I'm assuming that the TyTN II quality fix effected the subsequent file size of the video...duh.

In either case, now that it looks like we know what the problem is...how do we go about fixing it? I mean, if just installing the CIF_314 fix didn't actually 'fix' it and the ROM needs to be re-cooked, is there even a way around this?

My guess, is that (as in the same case with Arsunist using Dutty's ROM and the CIF_314 fix) any other ROM with this problem might need to be recooked with the original dll config.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sakajati:
Ok guys finally I found a solution to replace the cif.dll so no need to cook it. Here’s how to do it:

First off, you need to download the following applications: CIF_314.zip & Dotfred's TaskManager

Install/copy TaskMgr.exe to your crappy device and run it:

Install SJ CIF_314.cab and reboot your device.

Run Dotfred's TaskManager again to load cif.dll.

Tap & hold to brings the popup menu and select [Start].

Now run the camera ... hurrah you did it! :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] arsunist:
Tested this out on Dutty's Hybrid and it works :-D great work in tracking down and solving this issue! I'm sure there will be more and more people needing this solution as they pick up the newer models. Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] arsunist:
btw, how do I get it to load the camera automatically after a reset? So far I'm stuck manually loading the camera each time my phone resets even though it's set to automatic.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
Nice work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ilordvader:
Dont Try This Guys

Be carefull all

My cam got stuck on MMS

& I had to uninstall CIF_314
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] vyap:
Red Line

Need some help, I keep changing radio and rom but still there is a red line at the left hand of the camera. Anyone have this problem?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
I've updated the main page to reflect the solution.

Vyap, is it showing up on your screen or in the video/picture? I had a camera that after it got 'warmed up' a pixel would get stuck and result in a red dot and a line through the entire picture or video. Called up ATT and they told me it was a bad lense or something.

If it is just a line that's showing up on your screen but not your images or video, it may be your lcd.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Also, ilordvader, this is a fix specifically for the 7201 chipsets that are having trouble with the TyTN II quality cab that's been cooked into different ROMs.

So unless you were having problems in the first case, please don't derail the topic.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xcsdm:
Black background, but the picture still takes

OK, I've got a possibly related camera issue:

My own ROM based on newest ATT 19213/CE 3.53

I've tried all 1.65 based radios.

Using Camera_5_0_4_2915_00_Nadavi_2008-01-22

Camera app loads fine. All buttons appear on the screen like they should. However, there is no picture displayed, just a black background. But when I push the button to take a picture, it works. It takes the "appropriate" picture, then displays the picture with the send/delete buttons below like normal.

I can sort of use this, but you really don't know what picture you're taking until you take the picture.

I have tried with and without the new CIF.dll cooked into this ROM

XC
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Be careful about the 1.65.17.10 radio...not sure that they have resolved the problems with that one yet.

I would also try a different ROM (such as NoThrill's just for simplicity) to see if you still have the same problem.

Outside of that I would try the 1.64.08.21 radio or 1.58.21.23.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xcsdm:
I tend to stick with ATT based roms. Largely becuaseI have a tilt, and I'm an ATT customer anyway. So the 1.64/1.58 radios don't do me much good.

Luckily I read before I updated to 1.65.17.10, and used Jocky's security unlocker before I did. And I have had no problems changing radios.

XC
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
Yeah I'm ATT here as well with a Tilt (obviously) but I don't think you're gaining anything by sticking with ATT ROMs. Go ahead and try one of the other ROMs that are out there...from my experience I've substantially increased battery and processor performance.

I mean, if it works with the other ROM then you can try to figure out what's going on with your ATT ROM and just flash it back afterwards.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sakajati:
I'm not sure .. but I think you can try compare dlls from Nadavi's package with At&t, then pick the newer version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wan_amir:
I guess its the radio

Hi,

I'm a newby... just started to flash my new tilt with dutty hybrid 19716 but at the same time I've also flashed with new radio fr 1.64.08.21 to 1.65.20.29

Guess what, I had the same camera issue.

But after reverting the radio to 1.64.08.21, the camera problem dissappears.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] arsunist:
not completely due to the radio.... I think

Well, camera problems (even similar symptoms) could be due to either the software, hardware, radio, etc. I'm thinking my case was the software as I was already using 1.64.08.21 when I first discovered the camera was bad. from there i tried several other radios and the problem remained. The old version of the camera software fixed this issue for me. In your case, you probably had the right software and just encountered an issue related to having the wrong radio (?).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _h4x0r_:
I would also check to see which chipset you have...whether or not you have a 7200 or a 7201 seems to be a factor as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
With the news of HTC possibly releasing drivers for the TyT II but not the tilt scares me. The 7201 was designed specifically for the tilt. Anyone with a 7200 tilt will almost certainly be able to use a cooked rom with the drivers in it or just install the new rom. I worry about us 7201 Tilts. The drivers may not even work for us.......