yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ricethief:
is this a possiblity

Please don't flog me if this stupid. I'm still learning alot about this stuff. Until I picked a tilt recently I hadn't tinkered with anything windows mobile wise since the windows smatphone platform originally came out. But, what I was wondering is if this problem is in anyway related to the same type of problem some people were having when they upgraded their trinity to a 6.0 rom. There is a thread here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=316098&page=8 starts around post #76. It looks like it had something to do with using hd spl 1.3 and having to downgrade to hd spl 1.2 to get the radio to change and then reflashing back to hd-spl 1.3. Obviously we are using newer versions of hd spl but, could this be the problem?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Starfury:
Just a thought. Maybe the new radio isn't allowing an older version to be flashed over the top of it, by way of a version and/or date check?

Is there a way to take an older radio and modify the version and release date of it so that the phone thinks its a newer radio than whats there. This could get you back to a version that allows you to reflash any radio.

Another thought. Anyone tried using the faked radio rom that is in olipro's sim unlocker?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irockash:
Giving that a try now... I've been putting off unlocking my device, so this also gives me a reason to.

Just flashed, but seeing the same radio version. Unlocker won't run either.

Well crap, looks like I can't unlock till this is fixed. Also, just for kicks I tried reflashing Hard SPL, but couldn't... it went into the flashing screen on my computer, and bootloader on the device, and I followed the instructions to replug the device, but nothing happend. The RUU said it couldn't connect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thomassster:
are we sure that the radio is staying the same and not just displaying the same numbers? How bout someone try a rom/radio combo that is not compatible with these roms and see if the sound and camera don't work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irockash:
Worth a shot, I guess.... hey if it doesn't work, at least we get a working camera and sound?

Flashing 1.58.21.23 now.

Edit: Nope, workig camera and sound.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Did, flashed back to 1.27.14.09 & AT&T WM6.0 1.62, no sound.

BTW, has anyone confirmed if this radio works with other WM6.1 ROMs?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irockash:
I'm using it on Black Dragon II with no issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MickyMax:
Good reception ? GPS ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irockash:
Can't really say, I'm not too popular in the late hours. The few calls I did make lead me to think it's better reception then 1.65.14.06, haven't tried the GPS but don't have the tools necessary to test that.

I'll have a better answer for you later in the day.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shutter13:
I tried flashing the radio/rom combo via the sd card using the KaiserIMG_CINGULAR_WWE_3.51.502.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.10_Ship1signed.nbh file. After flashing it would not start past the green windows mobile 6.1 screen, so I reflashed dutty's april 16 WM6.1 5.2.19209. The sound worked for a bit and then stopped, the camera would not work at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shutter13:
FWIW, for me in my area, it's probably the best radio I've used, course now I can't try any others, but for me previously, the 1.64.08.21 and the niki 1.58.11.07 have preformed the best, this one gives me better reception in my area and call quality is fine. Haven't tried GPS yet. Still looking for a fix to unlock it, I will continue to use it, but don't like the idea of being stuck with it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jcespi2005:
SoftSPL

So anyone have tryied the SoftSPL to downgrade or change this radio to another version?

Cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Looks like we might have a winner? This is shaping up to be a very good day.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ugoff:
Dammit, I just bought another one last night!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shogunmark:
i have a spare to brick :D be more than happy to give it a shot!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Wow attacking two users who have done so much for the entire community. No doubt you have some knowledge about mobile phones but coming on here and insulting other users for trying to help people is just plain rude. If I were I would find the newest pool, tie a 200 pound weight around your feet because no doubt you are over 300 pounds, and see how long you can hold your breathe for.

Let me know when you want me to test out your theory.

MSN: alltheway7@hotmail.com
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] austinsnyc:
Any progress or anything anyone here can do I am sure there are more than 1 or 2 people that wouldn't mind helping you test your idea! Please keep us up to date! Many people have this page on Auto-refresh! :) Great Work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cotu1961:
No, only 205 pounds...

...former swimmer and water polo player. Can hold my breathe (sic) for about two and a half minutes, since you asked.

If you had been reading the thread you might have learned a thing or two, especially about a certain "patch" that started this mess and someone's kind words to me in post #385. But all this was behind us already; where have you been?

I have a brick and QPST. If anyone want to try something, I'm all ears.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
I think his point is that in the grand scheme of things here you have contributed very little, and really went after a couple of people who have contributed a lot. In circumstances like that it seems like one of those situations where if you didn't have anything useful to say you probably should have just kept your mouth shut, especially since not more than 1 day after you went on your little tantrum one of those very people you took the liberty of putting down so aggressively may have found a solution to a problem that you obviously were unable to fix yourself. I'm sure i'm not alone in the opinion that the little rant was the kind of thing you point to and say "this is a great example of why i wise man once said 'better to be silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Not that i'm implying that you are an idiot as your technical knowledge obviously exceeds my own; however, i am pointing out that i believe that you acted as such, and that perhaps you should have show the level of passion and sincerity in withdrawing your remarks as you did when you made them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cotu1961:
Evidently...

... you are well-intended but a bit misled. If you want to advocate for someone get your facts straight: your hero Mr. jockyw2001 replied to my first post with the words "bull**** mate". No explanation, just "bull****". So far and in spite of several such dramatic announcements, he has provided no solution to the problem he helped create by posting an incorrectly patched radio; instead he called people morons for believing that he knew what he was doing and flashing his abortion (as I did). I for one haven't claimed any particular expertise but openly shared the little I know without condescendence towards "noobs" or anyone else. My signature is not insulting to anyone here, my intentions of helping by any means clearly stated. Please read post #577 as it may explain a few things.

Personally I consider this matter closed and I will not respond to any more posts of this ilk as they are a nuisance to both the group and myself. When a solution is finally found (by jocky or anyone else) we will see who had the right idea.

My offer still stands: brick and QPST available. Any takers?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
I believe DMX said it best in his hit song, "Up in Here."

~"Y'all gonna make me act a fool, up in here, up in here. Y'all gonna make me lose my cool, up in here, up in here."

Quit your bickering. We are all here for the same reason. Please keep your personally attacks on each other out of this thread. Thank You.

Anyhow, Anyone have an update? ATW?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Well i had a great many things left to say, but you're right and i'll take your advice. The suspense is killing me a little...oh to be free to...well flash whatever radio i want...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sand_man:
why the aggro directed at jackoff and gsleon?

In any event every piece of software posted on here comes with a warning to the end user exempting the writer from any responsibility, end of story...

If you're inclined to ignore this warning then you should live with the consequences.

As far as I can ascertain Jocky's 1.65.17.10 radio with his patch is not an issue.

It's the original at&t rom with radio 1.65.17.10 which is proving sticky, hardly the fault of any cooks on this forum. That bug has come from the factory so I'm not sure why the aggro directed at jackoff and gsleon...:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
I'm done with the ranting

So you didn't heed the warning of this 1.65.17.10 radio? Where have you been? This radio was staying locked on numerous devices and yet you and other people flashed it. I tried to warn everybody about this radio. For all reports about this radio it didn't make any vast difference in comparison to other 1.65.XX.XX or 1.58.XX.XX WM6.1 radio's.

I do feel that bad that others are stuck with this radio, but coming on here and bashing somebody who could have made an honest mistake is far from par what this forum is about.

You say you are the one to solve it, I'm all ears! Put your money where you mouth is?

Now I say we put this nonsense and utter banter to rest and find a solution to this radio.

Well put ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sand_man:
so tell us the good news then!!!!:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jockyw2001:
I haven't been able to contact AllTheWay yet, but I will post the solution in an hour or so in a new thread "Cannot update Radio from Hell 1.65.17.10 : Solved with FrankenKaiser".
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jyavenard:
What have you do so far that is of value to this community ? nothing.

You arrive on your high horses, full off theory and technical talks...

So please do one thing useful for once: piss off.

PS: one additional note, really no one gives a **** that you're a waterpolo player
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cotu1961:
No, AllTheWay..

...just like you I never had the chance. The warning you posted was for the original radio (thanks), but I flashed jocky's original "patched" version as a precaution. In post #577 I quote from the original post #1 and there is no warning about the patch. Thus I ended up in hell.

As for my own efforts: believe me I have tried, but I am not familiar with this chipset so it's a blind shot. (In my own work we use a different device, still HTC.) It sems QC pulled the datasheets off their site, maybe due to the lawsuit. I have QPST and a few other standard tools and I've tried everything via USB and serial with the known outcome. But to all my trouble jocky replied with "bull****" and called me (and others) a moron for trusting him! Now that wasn't very nice, was it? Of course, should he find a solution, I will buy him and all who helped a frosy one. There is little that beer can't solve, eh ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] FoUmY:
Prob MTTY

Hello.

What is the solution for launch the bootloader ?

I don't have USB choice for USB on MTTY. Ihave just COM1 and COM 2 :(

THx.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
wrong thread buddy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] id242:
Assuming that you are referring to post #491 ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2196952#post2196952 )

To put in to bootloader mode, press the hard-reset button at the bottom of your Tilt. When black screen comes up, press and hold the camera button until the rainbow screen is displayed.

...proceeding through the rest of the directions in #491, you should see the USB option available in the MTTY dropdown once you rerun that app.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Jocky,

Sorry about not being able to contact you in time but glad you are helping other users with the problem. I will test it out on my phone that I have as of yet not shipped back to see if it works.

Nice job my friend :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] htcfan2008:
Hi all

My first post :). I've been lurking and learning a lot here, thanks to the efforts of so many contributors, so may I make a small contribution? Since jocky and friends already fixed the problem maybe someone should close this thread before that idiot cotu1961 wakes up again :eek:? Just a thought ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cmonex:
then you can solve the problem, using the steps described in this thread. the patch in that version unlocks the commands, but doesn't make the radio security unlocked, that's why it still can't flash another radio. however commands such as mw work, because the patch jocky did allows that. mw reads and write memory, so the radio bootloader can patch itself to be unlocked and then flash a radio. just follow the steps described a few pages earlier.

but if you somehow happen to have the non patched version, then jocky released a version that works even on that. see his thread :)

but it isn't a hardware lock, that's our luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Agreed, Jocky has figured this out.. See this thread.

Closing this thread as it's done.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
I'm using it with the TNT rom and it seems to work fine. i haven't noticed any problems. Not the most amazing battery life i've experienced but better than some radios i've tried and reception is adequate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
First and foremost, all thanks goes to renembarr. He figured it out and I tested to verify.

First, we are both security unlocked via jocky's SUPERCID security unlocker HERE. Prior to flashing this locked radio.

Next, we flashed to the NIKI 1.58.21.23 radio HERE.

Last, flashed to Polaris 1.64.08.21 radio HERE just to verify.

I don't know why or how, but I think it has to do with the Jocky's security unlocker. I've attached the proof. Now, renembarr flashed all of his via USB with Vista and I flashed via SD card. I think you have to be SUPERCID unlocked prior to flashing this jacked up radio first.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Nice, I'll do it now!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NetrunnerAT:
I doesnt think so! jockys unlocker do the same like olipro etc ... they change only 2 bytes!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _RMB_:
actually he is not security unlocked with jockys so he at the bridge right now about to test his arm......

we're trying to find another solution for those who dont have jockys security unlocker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Doesn't work for me either, i missed the part where you said you supercid unlocked it before you flashed the radio. Dang.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SH4YD33:
Have you tried adding the NIKI radio to the NBH that the .EXE file flashes? leaving the rest of the nbh intact...? Try it man.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] futbolkeeper:
It worked for me as well, phewwww. Had done Jocky's security unlocker a while ago. Thank god for that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Blah... Well, I unlocked with Jocky's first and then OliPro's before this radio and I'm still screwed.

*sigh*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Hasn't anyone disassembled the radio yet? Compared with Hex? There has to be a clue somewhere. I'll take a look, but this is definitely something Jocky would be best at. Maybe pof as well. I may be able to find the reason, but the fix would be more in Jockys league than my own.

ALSO, Is this affecting people that flashed the entire rom complete w/ radio, or radio only flashers???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] futbolkeeper:
I flashed rom w/Radio, and was able to get back to the 1.65.14.06 by flashing the Rom that Kyphur posted HERE. But I like P1Tater and renembarr had used Jocky's SUPERCID unlocker prior to doing this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LunaC:
Try forcing a greater version number into an older radio and see if it is an upgrade only issue ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dwsco:
Did anyone try to revert back to an original ROM and SPL? Is that likely to be of any worth at all? I was about to do it but not if it's a waste of time...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Kyphur, In your ROM, did you just remove the test nbh file? Because I can return after I did the same to this rom, not using yours, as well.

I'm starting to tear it apart now, but I'll need to go home & grab one of the locked Kaisers I have as my current is Jocky unlocked of course.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Try it out, I was going to do that tonight. Let me know what happens.

I am going to try and solve this before I give up completely. Plus we have all the mods in here and GSLEON3. Now if we could just add Jocky and Olipro to the mix I know we can solve this. Now this is true XDA-Developers. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _RMB_:
guys im with you on that also but i think we need to be GERBERED RIGHT NOW.....lol

emailing jocky right now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Okay, this is odd. The rom this radio comes from has 2 SPL's & 2 Radios. Hmmm... I'm disassembling the 2nd now. The first radio/SPL all looks normal, & since I had no issues with the rom once the test ruu was removed, I'm guessing the issue lies in this second one.

I'm thinkin' this may have something to do with IntShrUI & an attempt to incorporate a way for AT&T to charge you for tethering.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] leoiden:
has anyone tried any oem wm6.1 test rom?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dwsco:
A little catch 22 I think. When I run SSPL-KAIS.exe I just get a white screen... sits there for about a minute and then activesync disconnects (I hear the disconnect tone and the icon changes from green) then nothing... It's been sitting here on a white screen for about 10 minutes. So, I can't revert SPL to test. Whether it's to do with the demon radio or just my device I don't know but I also can't go into bootloader with the usual camera+reset combo (or any other I can think of) just keeps soft resetting.

So sorry... can't test this part.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
Try the white screen SPL fix and I couldn't get into bootloader with the old att test rom unless I pressed camera+power+reset or it might have been ok+power+reset. I forget but I know it was a combo.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=354061

I strongly suggest you try to return your device to the orignal SPL and OEM ROM. I would try but I'm not flashing this radio on my Tilt. Good Luck.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dwsco:
Ahhh.. I thought the white screen fix was only to install the pof spl.. which I already have installed. I'll take another shot at it when I get a minute (damned work keeps interfering with this way more interesting stuff :) )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xcsdm:
I can confirm that after SUPERCID'ing my Tilt, I can change Roms/Radios with normal flashing.

I flashed the new 19209 ROM with Radio,

I flashed the orginal AT&T 6.0 ROM with Radio,

I flashed Alex's ROM 5.2 Home

I flashed Dutty's Apr 16 6.1 ROM.

Everything worked as I "would expect"

When what you expect to happen, is what isn't expected to happen...

Did the expected or unexpected really happen?

XC
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Macgyvec3:
Did anyone who flashed this Radio get HSUPA or faster internet speeds?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Okay, for you guys stuck, I'm working on a Erasing the radio & reflashing via MTTY. It's kinda risky, but using the pasword from the SPL in this nb (Can anybody confirm the HArdSPL was NOT overwritten) I think we can erase the current radio using MTTY & then falsh via lnb to the same address a new radio. I'll see if maybe I can get pof or Jocky to look at this concept, but basically it'd be like this:

open mtty

USB> password BsaD5SeoA

USB> set 1e 1

USB> password BsaD5SeoA

HTCSPass1.CMˆËHTCEUSB> erase axxxxxxx c80000

HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB>password BsaD5SeoA

HTCSPass1.CMˆËHTCEUSB> erase a0cc0000 c80000

HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB>password BsaD5SeoA

HTCSPass1.CMˆËHTCEUSB> erase axxxxxx 640000

HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB> set 1e 0

USB>

USB>lnb c:\KaiserRomKitchen\RadioOS.nb

THIS IS A HERMES CONCEPT I PLAYED WITH BEFORE. IT IS CONCEPT ONLY AT THIS TIME.

DO NOT ATTEMPT IT!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jockyw2001:
Oh, tho conceptually looking sound, it's a bit too tricky I'm afraid.

I will analyze this radio and get back to ya.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Great. Let me know if you need somebody to test it out.

You figure this out man and I smell a donation coming your way :) Same goes for you GSELON3
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
Seems to me that it should work. I see some newbie trying it. Let me reintegrate for any newbie about to try it currently. DO NOT!

I never got around to flashing to this radio, I've never been more happy at my users for interrupting me when I'm trying to get my XDA on. I just have to laugh at the Sigs that Say "RADIO: 1.65.17.10 (Like I have a Choice" Or something similar. Your pain is funny to me, just a little.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Laurentius26:
On my other device 'HTC Universal' I erase the radio with these commands:

USB> password 0000000000000000 (( Returns: HTCSPass1.CMˆËHTCEUSB> ))

USB> set 1e 1 (( Returns: USB> ))

USB> erase a0040000 c80000 (( Returns: HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB> ))

USB> erase a0cc0000 c80000 ((Returns: HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB> ))

USB> erase a1940000 640000 (( Returns: HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB> ))

USB> set 1e 0 ((Returns: USB> ))

The addresses are the same isn't?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _RMB_:
thank you for your help jocky ...as it seems your security unlocker is the only way this radio problem didnt affect.....but now for people who didnt use your security unlocker before this radio are stuck and cant even try to use your tool.....i for one (and P1tater) were able to change radio because (we feel) we had our device securty unlocked with your tool.....http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=361236

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jockyw2001:
For those who are *not* security unlocked *and* installed 1.65.17.10, try to flash the patched 1.65.17.10 here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/109884045/Kaiser_Radio-1.65.17.10-patched.zip.html

Enter bootloader mode and enter "rtask a", then type "help" (this is not echoed to screen) and let me know if you see this:

Invalid command : help
For a help screen, ask JockyW :D or h

If this is confirmed I can easily patch it again and code a security unlocker to jailbreak your kaiser :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
testing now... I will report back.