yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] atroj:
Ah, bummer. I tried out MS Portrait a little while ago and it didn't work with our phones.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] csrow:
When the built in update downloads V1.6.3 and installs it, the installed version shows up as 1.6.2.

So, if you run the 'check for update' it will download again but still remain at 1.6.2.

P.S. - Any progress on the Semi-Public broadcasting feature?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Thanks for spotting that, should be OK now and tagged as v1.6.4 to void conflicts.

wrt to semi public broadcasting I am waiting to the end of the month to give people more time to send comments & feature requests. In July the work will begin a complete new version, website included.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Update

Recent changes...

Recorder application: Usability improvements including being able to add a description before uploading.

Website: Thumbnails now shown for your broadcasts.

Website: Embed option added to generate HTML code to allow you to insert your broadcasts in blogs etc (IE and FF only)

Latest CAB

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.6.5.cab

Website

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta

*I haven't figured out how to embed an IFRAME here as an example though :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Many thanks for all the feedback during the beta and for the published broadcasts.

Here's an early preview of the improved desktop web streaming currently being developed for v2.0

This requires the Silverlight plugin for your desktop browser, so the first time you click the link you might need to install the plugin and then restart your browser.

http://www.ix-m.com/sl-demo

Also thanks to Shugunmark for the video capture with his TyTN II ROM.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Update

Latest v2.0 preview demo with Video and Audio

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/test-pages/v2_samples.htm

This requires the Silverlight plugin for your desktop browser, so the first time you click the link you might need to install the plugin and then restart your browser.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shogunmark:
This is all coming along quite nicely and will make a great app! cant wait to start testing the next version!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
The offline recorder application in the latest cab now supports full video and optionally Video with Audio.

Latest CAB

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.6.8.cab

Getting started with Live Media Recorder

When you select Record the application goes into Preview mode – Nothing is being recorded at this time.

Use the Menu to select the record mode, or press the Select (enter) key to start recording in the default mode with Audio ( this can be changed from the settings)

After you select the record mode there will be a couple of seconds delay whilst the application makes the camera go full screen.

You should hear a beep sound and then see the full screen camera in record mode ( if you don’t see the red recorder light flashing after a few seconds press the select (enter) key again.

Hopefully you are now in record mode?

To Stop recording press the select (enter) key or back button.

If the camera screen doesn't close, then press the select key a 2nd time.

Use the “Files” menu/icon to watch your video back.

To upload your video use the Menu on the files screen.

Login to the website http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta to view your recordings with GPS mapping.

Please publish your driving videos to the website so everybody can see them :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Sorry, there was a missing DLL in the 1.6.7 CAB which could cause the Live Broadcaster GPS screen to crash :mad:

Please use 1.6.8 instead from below or via "Check for updates"

Latest CAB

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.6.8.cab
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
SMS Activation is now available in the Live Media application.

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.7.0.cab

Insrtructions:

On the Broadcaster settings screen, select the SMS Activation item from the list

Check the Enable item and optionally Send Acknowledgment item (this sends an SMS response back when a broadcast is started)

Enter the password you want to activate broadcasting - the SMS must start with the password.

Click the Done button and then leave the application running on the broadcaster settings screen.

NOTES:

The Password is used to both start and stop a remote broadcast.

If you are already broadcasting manually a stop SMS will be ignored.

Coming next is the Semi Public broadcasting mode.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
I've finally got around to adding this feature (great idea of yours btw) in the latest release

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.7.1.cab

Instructions:

On the Broadcaster settings screen select the "Public PIN" item.

Enter your chosen PIN (min 6 characters) then click the Save menu.

Go to the website http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta and login with your user name and the PIN you just created.

You will now be logged in with guest access to your Live broadcasts only. Your stored broadcasts are not visible.

Start broadcasting

After a few seconds you should see your user name appear with a link on the website - click the link to connect to your broadcast.

This feature seems to fit quite nicely with the SMS remote activation feature if you are driving and a friend (with your PIN and SMS password ) wants to check where you are etc by activating a broadcast and logging in on the website.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jeepin_idaho:
i just started playing around with the program and i think its awesome! what i'd really like it to do though is the give me the option to shoot out something like a "i'm broadcasting now" link for my to send as a sms. i don't know exactly what the "sms activation" is really supposed to do. I haven't managed to get it to do anything actually:confused:. but for now i guess its okay for someone to just log on and use the public pin to access my broadcast. overall, this program is amazing! lets see your iphone do that! ha!:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Many thanks for the positive feedback.

Notifications (send a SMS or email to selected contacts when I start to broadcast ) will be added soon (it's on my "to do" list )

FYI: SMS Activation is used to make a broadcast start up remotely - for example you have your phone in its holder on the dashboard whilst driving but not broadcasting. A friend with your activation code can SMS you the code and the application will start broadcasting. When your friend has seen enough, they can send a 2nd SMS to stop the broadcast. For this to work the application needs to be left running on the broadcaster settings screen (this is the screen with all the broadacting options listed)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Extreme conditions

A sailing team competing at Cowes Week 2008 have taken the latest beta (using a Touch Diamond) onboard their boat for the races.

Live Streaming is available from between 9:00 - 11:00 GMT until the 9th August 2008, but you can also watch the captured broadcasts too from the link below until the 9th August 2008

http://www.ix-m.com/pelican

On day #1 the team came in 7th, but the battery on the Diamond only lasted for 1.5 hours of non-stop broadcasting, so we couldn't watch the full race live :(

The guys with the boat are trying to hook up some external power to keep the Diamond running longer over the next few days of racing, but they have weight restrictions...

You can check out thier blog here http://www.pelican-racing.co.uk where they will post updates on how they get on with application.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Head Cam

Hope you find this interesting....

The HTC Diamond being used as a "head cam"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK6TOvzet2M

Pics of how they did this are on the Pelican Racing blog

http://www.pelican-racing.co.uk/?p=27
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stando76:
Awesome app! 2 questions however.

When I try to record something to broadcast later, when the camera goes to full screen, i get a message that not enough memory is available to use the camera (I am using a mogul)

The other question is, why is gps required. I am not sure I always want my location know. lol.

Thanks,

Stan
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
I've seen a similar thing on a Hermes and I had to change a registry setting to tell the device to use the storage card rather than main memory when saving video.

On the Hermes it's here - make a note of the value (or backup the registry) before you change it just incase it doesn't work !

HK_CU\Software\HTC\Camera\v4.00\Strings\Save

There is a key called "Location" change this to "Storage Card" or the device name of your storage card.

In answer to your other question GPS is only required if you are doing offline video. You can use the Live media application with GPS off to broadcast live if you want to, however, only GPS broadcasts can be viewed live on the beta website. No GPS broadcasts currently require the desktop application or another mobile for viewing.

Hope this helps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Version 2.0 Upgrade

The first v2.0 release is now available with a new User Interface - screenshot attached.

All GPS functionality has now been moved into a new application called "Live Media GPS" and removed from the "Live Media" application

When you upgrade or install the latest CAB there are 2 applications installed

Live Media GPS - use this application for both Live and Recorded broadcasts

Live Media - same as v1.7.3, but with GPS removed.

Beta Website

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
This is in the latest release with the new User Interface (Live Media GPS application) screenshot in an earlier posting.

Instructions:

1. Settings

2. Public PIN -- create a PIN

3. Done

4. Notifications

5. Menu | Enabled (select this to enable notifications)

6. Menu | Add

7. Select from your contacts and then use the "Add" button for each contact you want to notify

8. Back

9. Check that the settings screen says "Notifications on"

When you start to broadcast a SMS is sent with your user name and public PIN saying that you are broadcasting.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kevintunis:
New to the site, I actually stumbled on it Googling for Live Media GPS. First, Bill Fisher suggested your site from the post on Windows Media Connection "Live Streaming with Windows Mobile". Second I downloaded from the this link http://www.ix-m.com/download.aspx is this the most up to date cab? Or should I be using the livemedia -1.8.4.cab?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
The latest version is now always available from http://www.ix-m.com/download.aspx or by using the Check for updates option in the application.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Extreme conditions #2

After the succesful trial of the app at Cowes Week 2008 ( the world's largest sailing regatta ) the software is being used this week at the SB3 world championships in Dublin Bay, Ireland. There will be up to 4 boats broadcasting Live from the event later today ( weather permitting ) and tomorrow (26th Sept 2008) on the final day.

Both Live and playback can be found here

http://www.live-regatta.com

For those of you on European time, the Live broadcasts will be available on the 26th between 11:00am - 5:00pm BST (GMT+1) - the boats only broadcast during the races, so streaming isn't always online.

On a technical note: they are using the current version of Live Media GPS installed on 4 HTC Touch Diamonds with external battery packs, that give us up to 7 hours of Live broadcasting over HSDPA. The devices are attached to the boat's with car mounts in waterproof bags :D. The broadcasts are all activated via SMS at the designated race times.

You can also watch the streaming on your mobile (no maps) via the Live Media application - the broadcaster names start with "boat_" or "live regatta".

Many thanks to all of you who have contributed feedback and ideas that have helped us to get to where we are now.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mike1002:
Trying to run this software again (after a long time).

I'm using the most current version, and when i try and record, i press my enter key, but as soon as it switches to that smaller screen, the recording ends and tells me that its finished.

When i try and broadcast, it just crashes.

I'm using a Hp hw6915, running WM5 - previous builds (pre 1.6) worked a treat.

Thanks, Mike.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Mike,

There have been a few changes to the app with how the video camera is displayed on the device, so if you get an error screen when the app crashes, please post the details or send me a PM so I can take a look.

WRT the recording stopping, this could also be a bug in the app that affects your device or it could be that there's not enough storage space available. I have seen this on one HTC device, where I had to frig the registry to tell the video recorder to explicitly store videos on the storage card, rather than in main memory.

Thanks

Phil
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mike1002:
After selecting "Record" the screen brighness turns up to full (so the camera starts), then i press select to start the capture, it says going full screen, then the backlight goes back down to normal, that smaller screen picture, with the rectangle in the middle, showing the camera image comes up for about 1 second then i get a box saying "Video captures successfully Use the files option to watch your video back".

When i click the Files button, theres nothing in there.

Thanks for the help, Mike.

EDIT: I've tried the reg modification on the previous page, but i dont have the HTC section.

Im using a HP device (although made by HTC).

Theres also 10MB free on my device memory, so i dont think thats the problem, just looks like it is terminating as soon as it starts recording.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Been doing some testing with Mike and the broadcaster issue should now be fixed in the latest build (Live Media GPS v2.1.6) by using the following new settings.

Using the Live Media GPS app select

Settings

Video Recorder

Uncheck "Direct screen mode"

This setting is only required if the broadcast screen hangs on your device.

The latest cab is always available here

www.ix-m.com/downloads/livecam.cab
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Turns out that Mike's phone was recording in WMV and the application was expecting MP4 -- after some testing Mike informs me the latest build resolves these problems.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Website Update

FYI: The Live Media GPS website has recently been updated.

After logging in, use the "Live Link" top right to connect to your live broadcasts.

Please note the change of URL to...

Website

http://www.ix-m.com/gps

Latest CAB is always available here

www.ix-m.com/downloads/livecam.cab
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nocomp:
vidéo mode?

hi folks,

first of all congrats & big up to phil for this very nice appz!

I have a p3600 with win mob 6.1 (same nickname in your portal),here are my questions:

is it possible to see on the phone what we broadcast,a preview,cause all i have is a black screen while broadcasting.

I saw some ppl broadcasting almost true videos,me what i get is more a "animated gif", how can i do for broadcast a better quality knowing that hq is enable in the settings,and using the last release.

thx for your time

best regards

herve
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hightechlive:
phil my tilt says its broadcasting but i cant see it on the website,any ideas
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
If you are seeing a blank screen when broadcasting, you could try turning off the "direct screen mode" under Settings | Video recorder. Alternatively it could be your powersaving settings kicking in and turning the backlight off? (the app should keep this on)

wrt broadcasting quality etc, several things can affect the frame rate when broadcasting live, most notibly the Internet connection speed and the buffer size (when using the default buffer size and the connection is too slow you will see jumps in the broadcasts)

Some of the best Live results I have seen so far have been from the HTC Touch Diamond, using LQ and a buffer set to 50. The boats at the SB3 World Championship used these settings and the Live streaming was pretty smooth.

Hope this helps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
When you start to broadcast you should see "Broadcasting 1 connection" after a few seconds - this is system connected to your phone.

There a couple of ways to see this on the website...

1. Make your broadcasts public (requires latest version) and then when you broadcast it will appear on the homepage in the top row with the published broadcasts - click the tumbnail image to connect.

or

2. Login to the website and you should see a "Live Link" top right, when you start to broadcast the text should change to indicate your are Live -- click the link to connect.

Hope this helps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hightechlive:
phil i dint see this "Broadcasting 1 connection,i see on the top left corner it says on line.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Did you use the GPS application?

I ask, because there are 2 Live Media applications installed from the CAB.

1. Live Media GPS

2. Live Media

Both applications have a broadcaster, but only the GPS app can be viewed on the GPS website. The other version of the broadcaster can be viewed by other mobiles or via the desktop app.

Hope that makes sense?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ozpilot:
Hi Phil.

I am having trouble remote viewing a live stream from my phone on a laptop.

The 2 applications installed fine on my HTC (Sprint) Mogul. I start the Live Media GPS app and start the broadcast and the phone says "Broadcasting 1 Connection"

The http://www.ix-gps.com/Default.aspx site opens up in IE6 (with Silverlight plugin) just fine. I login and I see "Broadcasting" click on it and my GPS location shows up. Try as I may I cannot see the video. The phone says "Broadcasting 2 connections".

Clicking on the "My Page" Link pulls a 3x 4 grid up with my user ID for less than 1/2 a second then a world map appears and overlays it. Clicking on the "My Broadcasts" tab has a similar result, with a 4 x 1 grid with a scrollbar appearing briefly.

Any insights into this problem would be appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Many thanks for reporting the problem, which might be IE6 related, because the new Silverlight version of the website has only been tested on IE7 and Firefox on XP and Vista.

If you can't or don't want to upgrade to IE7, then the quick solution might be to install Firefox and see if that works on your PC?

[Edit] Just dug out an old Windows 2000 laptop with IE6 and I can reproduce the problem -- I'll take a look to see if it is fixable.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
I think I've found what the problem was with IE 6 - should be working OK now, but if you still encounter problems with IE 6, try Firefox v3 instead.

Hope this helps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ozpilot:
Thanks Phil. I installed IE7 and no problem.

I have a further question. I want to view the mobile device from the desktop application.

I installed the desktop application and logged it. I was presented with a dialog box which said. "You cannot use the same login details on both your mobile and PC"

So I created another user account, added that account on the mobile phone as a buddy, and tried to view it on the PC. I can see the buddy but not connect to it. Under the View Menu only "Chat" and "Connected Users" are available. The others are greyed out. I have searched the documentation on how connect like this but to no avail. Your documentation is great but does not cover this scenario well. Do I have to create a public profile? Your input would be appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
No, you don't need to go public unless you want to...

I've added some instructions on how to view private mobile broadcasts to the "Help | Getting Started" page available from the desktop app. This page is loaded from the web, so you don't need to re-install the desktop app.

The two relevant sections are

1. Viewing private broadcasts

2. Broadcasting from your Windows Mobile phone.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ozpilot:
Great job Phil

That latest update fixed the problem.

Now a request. Can you modify the "Multi Screen" window so that only one webcam is displayed? The goal here is to increase the size of the window so that it either covers the place of the 4 webcams or a full screen option. Maybe a pulldown menu with number of webcams?

Thanks for all the rapid responses.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] knights191:
i am using a samsung i780 with wm 6.1.

i am getting the error message that Camera cannot operate with GPS.

And how do I get my external gps to work, because by default it uses my internal gps, and I cannot find an option to select the com port or so.

Suggestions? :(

realy very kewl app btw
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
I'll add that to my to do list - for support/questions that are not directly related to the mobile GPS App please use the contact form on the website instead of this thread.

Many thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Very interesting, not hear about that one before! but I do know of other issues with the app on the i760 (Verizon)

I don't know much about Samsung devices, but you could try this...

Do you have the "External GPS" app (under settings) on your mobile?

If so, that's where you set the com port and hardware for external GPS - on HTC devices the app picks up the settings from there.

Once you have the external GPS up and running, you might also need to make sure that the "Video Recorder -> Direct Video Mode" setting in the app is unchecked, because on the i760 having this checked hangs the broadcaster.

Hope this helps?