yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] csrow:
Phil,

Live broadcasting works fine when viewing from the public side but if I try to access my own public broadcast from my private side, nothing shows up (invalid GPS data).

Besides using the windows application, is there any way I can access my private broadcast from the web site?

If I want to share a broadcast with few friends, I don't mind giving out my userID and password to them but it looks like I won't be able to broadcast privately to my account. (on the web).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
The "Invalid GPS Data" message is sometimes shown if the page doesn't refresh correctly after you complete a broadcast -- could you try closing your web browser and logging back to see if this fixes this?

BTW: if you use the "email a link" option to somebody, they can access that broadcast without having to login.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Imperium:
not quite true.. the link mailed is the same in the adress bar. which will result in

in:

a browser without the login cookie (or other pc)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Thanks...

Think I've found the problem, should work now (somebody mailed me to say that the above happened if no description was given to the broadcast [was a bug])
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Imperium:
Yup works perfectly now :)

Already happen to found the solution for the frameskipping?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
This is still work in progress and appears to be related to a combination of camera resolution (bytes/frame), the available bandwidth your mobile can actually "get its hands on" and whether the internet connection can be kept alive or not.

At the moment, if the stream buffer fills up (on your mobile) before the contents can be sent "upstream" then frames start getting pulled off the front of the queue (dropped frames).

shogunmark and I have been experimenting with the buffering for a while, but yet to find a balanced solution.

The latest build I uploaded yesterday (1.5.8) has some minor improvements, but doesn't resolve this issue yet.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] csrow:
What would be nice for my situation is a semi-public broadcast where a public broadcast is accessed with a password.

So, from the mobile device, it would ask for a password before starting a semi-public casting. Then anyone with a proper password will be able to access the broadcast from the web.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] miffymiffy:
Is there something i am missing, I am not able to get the bluetooth GPS reciever to respond to this application. Is anyone able to use a bluetooth GPS reciever successfully with this app?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] amsatnetg:
Hey great idea, I am trying it out on a wizard, and I immediatelely get an error storing files as soon as i go to record. Gps seems to be working.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kwill:
hey!! just wanted to say great progam and great job in developing it. i will find it very cool and useful :) one question i do have is.........when you're broadcasting publicly is it available to anyone that logs into their account? i ask because its the only way i can broadcast live as i dont have anyone to add as a buddy:(:) i only ask as is shows all logged in users when you log in and want to view a live broadcast
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] amsatnetg:
Sorry I couldn't post this earlier as I was driving. Error notification that pops up on the screen is in this screenshot. What do you think is causing the problem? It happens right after I press record, and then the message pops up on the screen itself in the background.

This is on a G3 Wizard 8125 running WM 6.1 very closely based on TNT 19209 by It's Right.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Nice idea, thanks.

To make sure I fully understand - is this what you mean and applies to live broadcasting.

1. You create a "pass key" on your mobile, for example 12345, which could be stored on the device and can be changed at any time.

2. You select semi-public & start broadcasting

3. You then appear as online on the website (without anybody having to login)

4. When the link is clicked the user is prompted for your "pass key" to be able to view your broadcast.

Let me know and I'll see what I can do.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Yes, I've tested with a Holux external BT GPS receiver on a Hermes and HTC S710.

Here's the setup I used on the hermes via Settings/Connections/Bluetooth

1. Select the device on the bluetooth screen

2. Select Serial Port (Services to be used by this device)

3. Save

4. On the Bluetooth screen select the COM ports tab

5. Select new outgoing port & use the default (was COM 0 on mine)

Hope this helps?

If it doesn't work, can you post what make/model your BT receiver is please as somebody else might be able to help.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Thanks.

Yes, when you broadcast publically all Live Media users can select to see your broadcast from other mobiles or the desktop app. But, only users that login via the beta website can see the GPS map.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
My guess is that the app has got the path to the storage card wrong or detected a storage card when one isn't there. Do you have a storage card shown as "storage card" under My Device in File Explorer?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] miffymiffy:
I have two of them, one is a cheap ebay unbranded one, and the other is a GlobalTop TouchGPS.

I have also tried this with Franson GPSGate without any luck. I have also reset and hard reset my device to no avail.

I used the settings that you described but no luck with them.

How long did it take to get a signal from the BT receiver? I have had it sitting there for over 10 minutes and it still didnt get any data from it.

When i closed it and opened TomTom it picked it up straight away.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] amsatnetg:
Yes I do have a storage card shown as storage card, but do you see the error in the screen behind the popup? This is the initial error that stops the recorder from running. It is only saying that it is saving it to the storage card on the popup. It only records for like .00001/tenth of a second then the error appears then the popup. It is all very quick. Has anyone else with a wizard tried this program???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
On both the phones I tested on the GPS comes up within a couple of seconds, so there must be something else going wrong.

The TyTn Hermes I tested on has the HTC WM6pro ROM on it, don't know if that makes any difference?

If it's hardware/ROM related (could be my code), is there anybody else out there who could try and help resolve this one?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] miffymiffy:
I am currently running WM6.1. I have a couple of hundred roms so ill chose one of the older WM6 roms and ill see if that has any effect.

After flashing a WM6 rom, still no love... I guess it has to do with the GPS receiver i am using.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
It's a bug, just tracked it down in the debugger.

I'll upload a new build after doing some more testing.

Many thanks for highlighting the problem.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] amsatnetg:
Awesome! Glad that i could help. I will look forward to a new build. I really like the concept.

I am a senior member!!! Cool!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Thanks.

New build ready, which should fix things, but if it doesn't it will popup a message box with a debug message in, which will be more meaningful to me, than to you :)

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.6.0.cab

or use Check for updates from the Live Media app.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kwill:
ok makes sense. thanks much!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kwill:
so, to make sure i totally understand. can the live video stream function still be used without a gps fix? and also, for a person to view my live stream they need to go to the beta site and use my login/pass and go to view public broadcasters or have the software installed?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] csrow:
Yes, that's exactly what I am looking for. Thanks for the great program. I just wish the connection bandwidth was high enough to handle to continuous casting without dropping frames.

I intent to try broadcasting live from a race car next time I am on a track.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ppcnoore:
New rom

Everything was working fine updated to newest ppckitchen running 5060 now I get this.

Sprint mogul
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
If GPS is not enabled (Off) on the broadcaster screen, you can still broadcast, but will not be visible on the beta site, because the site if for GPS broadcasts only.

However, other mobile users and people with the Live Media desktop app (free from www.ix-m.com) will be able to see your broadcasts depending on your public/private status.

It's also worth mentioning that

1. Only GPS broadcasts are stored by the system, all other broadcasts are live.

2. Any Live Media user can login to the beta site and view live public GPS broadcasts or broadcasts from users that have added them to their buddy ACL.

3. I'm also going to take a look at the suggest by scrow for semi-public broadcasts, which might simplify things for web access.

Hope this helps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
The first time this one came up shogunmark commented that this can be caused if the .NET installation is not cooked correctly.

Here's a link to that post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2132823&postcount=5
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ppcnoore:
Tryed rebuilding a few times and reflashing and still getting the error. Re-installed .net and still no go. I will rebuild the rom with some diffrent options see what happens.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shogunmark:
if you try to install .net from a cab will it install properly? or does it go to step 3 and ultimately fail?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ppcnoore:
After several rebuilds , reinstalls of .netcf and .net 3.5 the error will not go away. But i have gotten a new error after reinstalling .net

I also talked to a few people over at another place and they said it was the program itself not .net or the rom.

So I am open to all suggestions at this point please.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shogunmark:
and your trying this on a cooked rom correct? if so then try to flash an official rom, install netcf then the app to see if you can duplicate the error..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ppcnoore:
With the help from IRC I was able to get 3.49 sprint rom stable and cooked in some of my own stuff using ppckitchen and its up and working again. I will be broadcasting some videos very soon now. Thanks for the help.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] amsatnetg:
I will try it out now since you have rebuilt and let you know how it is on wizard. peace
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kwill:
ok, that clears up things alot and thanks for taking the time to explain it:) i have to agree with the above suggestion. it would be great to have an option for users to have to input the passcode, therefore making the broadcast semi-public.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kwill:
ok, so i downloaded the desktop app just to test a broadcast without gps. i created a user name and password different from the device. and accepted my device as a user on the desktop app. i also added the desktop user name as a buddy cam on the device. but, when i go into the device it says that the username for the desktop app is not logged on. i restarted both programs and still no luck. am i doing something wrong?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] av8rdude:
It would be nice to be able to send a broadcast from the phone and when you finish send a link to friends from the phone to the broadcast. I can't find a way to send a specific link from the phone.

Scott
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Below are some detailed instructions for using the desktop app

1. First add your PC user name to the Buddy ACL on your mobile

2. On the desktop app, click the Live Media tab, then select "Private" from the dropdown list, next click the search toolbar icon -- your mobile user name should now appear, but in an offline state (grey icon)

3. Start to broadcast from your mobile

4. Hit the search button again on the desktop app -- the icon should now be active (you are broadcasting on your mobile)

5. Double click the icon that represents your mobile, this will connect to your mobile.

6. Within a few seconds the mobile app will show "broadcasting 1 connection" then after about 5 seconds you should start to see what you are broadcasting on the desktop app -- there's usually around a 5 second delay.

Hope this helps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Change requests

Thanks Scott, at the moment that can only be done from the website, but is an excellent idea! and also fits in nicely with a different feature request, which is to notify people (of your choice) when you start a live broadcast.

I am currently compiling a change request list, and I will add your idea to it.

If anybody else would like to request new features, please post them either here or via the contacts form on the website before the 24th May 2008 and I will do my best to include them in the next relase.

Many thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Geo2000:
Hi.	How can I get to work by proxy? Has something in the menu? Can be done to work through wap? Thank
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Sorry, I don't understand your question, could you provide some more details please? Is your question related to getting the GPS location or a general question about Internet connectivity?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Geo2000:
Connect by proxy

My question was whether this application can use the Internet as setting the proxy and port
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
There are currently no explicity settings in the application to use a proxy server to connect to the net, if that is what you mean?

If you are connecting over a GPRS/3G type connection, then I would expect the application to use your device/carrier settings to connect. Likewise over a WIFI connection.

However, if this doesn't work for you an you need to enter a specific proxy server and port to establish Internet connections, then please let me know so I can take a look at how best to add those connectivity options to the application.

Many thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] diterex:
I whipped up this with an extra case I found on Ebay and some extra stainless I had laying around the shop. I think that this application will be pretty nice when I get to use it after work today.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Awesome!

Looking forward to seeing your next broadcast :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shogunmark:
are you asking if it will work through your cell providers proxy?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] diterex:
Some reason I could not get it to record longer than 6mins or so, and then it started over again with a new broadcast. I hit broadcast right before I left the gas station and I stopped riding about 30mins after the end of the second broadcast. Any suggestions?

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/PlayBroadcast.aspx?ixgps=diterex_15130_21052008214018

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/PlayBroadcast.aspx?ixgps=diterex_15130_21052008214633
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Thanks - great broadcasts, looks like your kit worked a treat!

If this was a Live broadcast, then this can happen if the Internet connection gets dropped during the broadcast. The application then tries to reconnect as soon as it can get hold of a new Internet connection, but as you have discovered, this then becomes a new broadcast captured by the system.

To do long recordings, rather than Live broadcasts, it's probably better to use the Recorder application instead, because this does all the capture on the device (without an Internet connection) and when finished you can view it back before uploading the recorded broadcast to the website.

Hope this helps to explain things?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] av8rdude:
I've found that if you force your phones data connection to stay active you can make a single long recording.

With my verizon phone I do this by enabling the wireless sync software in the push mode. Then the phone never disconnects from the data connection. This also kills the battery in one day if you leave it in push mode.

Scott
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shogunmark:
well kinda...

Here is how it works, as long as the phone see's active data it wont kill the connection automatically, which is why when you leave it on push mode it constantly stays active. It has a "heartbeat" that it sends out at timed intervals that keeps the connection active.

So your phone SHOULDNT be closing the data connection if you are actively streaming with this app or browsing the web, etc.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
We liked your photos and broadcast so much, I have added them to our video collection on YouTube.

Here's a list of current videos based on published broadcasts on the beta website.

Diterex:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AWEFrNi3cs

Shogunmark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afWuHoQV238

PeterLive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfKhAhgnMM4

Many thanks for all your contributions and feedback so far!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] agcolella:
Great application

May I suggest a small improvement: could it be added some sort of "remote control" of the broadcast: for example an SMS could disable/enable the broadcast or another could act on the tracking, or even both.

Thanks a lot
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stw303:
Are you planning to support non-HTC Windows mobile phones in the future? I own an Eten Glofiish M800 with WM6.1. The app loads properly, but it can't initialise the front or back camera properly. I do get a picture, but it just looks like analogue TV static.

I'm assuming that this is hardware support issue.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Excellent idea, I will add it to the list of things to look at during the next round of updates.

Many thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Thanks for letting me know about the problem.

If by static you mean the frame rate is really slow, then this seems to be down to combination of the speed of the device and picture quality (size). For example on the HTC 710 (smarphone) it's pretty slow, but on the HTC PPC devices the FPS varies between 2-8 FPS, with the max FPS the software will try to use being 4 ( this is to save on data )

I think we have had some testers on non HTC devices, but haven't had any feedback relating this issue (yet!) which gives me the opportunity to ask the question...

Anybody using the software successfully on non HTC devices?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vscout:
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but issue #1, it always says that GPS is not active even though it is. When I click on GPS then it shows my coordinates. Issue #2 is whenever I press broadcast it will initialize my camera. The camera will show up but at the top all it says is "Waiting for connections". I added my computer username to the buddy acl but can't connect. Any suggestions?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
On the GPS screen which shows your coordinates you need to select "Enable" from the menu. This option is there to allow you to broadcast with GPS enabled or disabled. When enabled the broadcaster's setting screen should show GPS - On. Then when you start to broadcast a user called "gps-sys" will connect automatically - this is the system user that records your broadcast for you.

With issue #2, you need to actively connect from your PC to your mobile - this is explained earlier in this thread here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2211285&postcount=89

Hope this helps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Park City:
Cant detect GPS

Hello.

Question. I originally installed the beta from the website and it was version 1.4.x. I found the newest beta 1.6 and installed it but I dont think it updated the 1.4 version. Either way, the program doesnt detect that I have a GPS installed. I am using a Kaiser with Sleuth255 v3.0 installed.

What more information can I provide to troubleshoot this?

This has fantastic potential!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Park City:
Solved my own problem. Downleded .net CF 3.5 and then the newest 1.6 and it works like a dream. This is Fantasic!! Will be using this a bunch and will be updating regularly!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Many thanks for letting me know and glad to hear that you like the app :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dortyboy:
great program. works great on my touch cruise. can i get afull video of how the program works with map and live feeds. all the works
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Sorry, but I'm not sure what you are asking/looking for?

If you are looking for some videos about the sofware, you can find some here http://www.ix-m.com/LiveMediaGPS.aspx

Hope this helps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] atroj:
I'm looking into using this to stream video from my phone to a house mates via 802.11 (only GPRS is available in my area). Basically I'm looking for a p2p video stream (almost like a video call but I don't need voice). In an effort to conserve network bandwidth (slow connection) is there a way to go directly from phone to host laptop and then to the other phone without going over Live Media servers?

I was thinking about trying to tie the Live Media stream into VLC/Darwin to achieve this. Has anyone looked into this yet? Is there an easier way? Maybe this could work even easier if TCPMP could connect directly to Live Media?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Phil Bishop:
Only broadcasts with GPS are captured by the system for playback on the web.

If you broadcast with GPS off, then nothing is captured/stored by the system.

There is a PC application for Live Media which you can download from http://www.ix-m.com

Below are a few simple instructions to get started with private broadcasting.

Create a different user name account with the PC application.

Add that user name to your Buddy ACL on your mobile.

On the PC app, select the Live Media tab, then private from the dropdown list, then click the search button.

You should see your mobile user name listed, but grayed out.

Start broadcasting from your mobile

Click the search button again on the PC to refresh the list

Your user name icon should now be enabled

Double click on the icon to connect

If you just want private mobile to mobile, then you don't need the PC application, just add the other mobile users to your Buddy ACL on your mobile.

Hope this helps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] atroj:
I tried doing this but received Internet/Network connection failed. Since my AP isn't always connected to the internet I'm wondering if there's a way to cut out the connection check.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shogunmark:
Phil & atroj...

I think you guys are misunderstanding each other. atroj wants to stream directly to his pc through local lan.

There is a pc app, however it still all runs through incax servers. So yes you can stream to your pc, however it still needs the internet.