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[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] Motleyscrew:
I sadly recently destroyed my One Plus 5T. But I've been using One Plus phones for a good 3 years. Is the OS on the MiMax 3 close to stock Android like One Plus? And yes, I realize the 6T just came out but I am going through money issues, okus I have an eye disease so the 7" screen was appealing.

Or is it going to be a heVily skinned OS which will be very fireign to me?

Thanks again!
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] shoukanju:
MIUI, not stock android. Completely different and takes some time and tweaking to fall in love with. But I did eventually, coming from touchwiz and stock android.

I particularly love the detailed app permission controls on MIUI.

I disabled MIUI Optimizations and used Nova Launcher for a more familiar feel.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] misiokicio:
Hi all, i am interested in this phone but also looking at pixel 3 right now using 2 xl please share pics taken with op and help me decide
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] dchurch85:
I used the Google camera port for the oneplus 6 on my 6t. Biggest difference I can see is in the portrait mode. No real good pictures to upload yet.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] GuestK00177:
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[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
Whats the state of installing Google services, including the play store, on new huawei devices (I am specifically looking at mate 20 pro).

Does anyone have any info at all?

Thanks

Update: We have conflicting reports of people able to do it, and someone saying they have tried it and it crashes when opening and running youtube caused a message saying that GMS services were not installed.

So really, we are back to square one and have no idea what is actually going on.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] Koong1:
Not sure about mate 20 Pro, but other Huawei devices such as nova 3i bought in China can install Google play store directly from download, without any additional hassle.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ONikku:
I just got my LYA-AL00 delivered the other day. The seller mentioned that Google Play Services would not be installed, but it was.

Some sellers state that they will set it up for you, but mine stated that he would not, and it was still sealed.

Most of the Google apps were not installed, but I believe the Play Store was? (I could have misremembered on this one, though..)

If you get one that's only missing the Play Store, it's easy to grab from Huawei's App Gallery. Set or change your Huawei ID region to one that is supported (if yours is not, it will guide you to change it).
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
Thanks for the speedy reply.

So other Chinese Variant Huawei phones can install Google Play store as the apk, along with google maps and such and run as if it were an international version?

Is the GMS (Google Services) installed by default on the device?

Do you have any source or something I can see to confirm this?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
Also thanks to you for your reply.

Where did you buy it from?

Mine will be purchased from a store in China, not shipped out.

Are you able to confirm that the seller did nothing other than just install the Google Play Store APK?

Also, what do you mean by;
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] Koong1:
I am not too sure about the details. I think the GMS is pre-installed. My wife (currently in Italy) is using a Huawei nova 3i she brought from China TMall (the biggest Chinese online market). She installed Google play store, drive, maps, translate, photos, etc without any issue. Just download play store apk and install then download the rest from the Google play store.

A friend in Thailand using the China Variant Huawei nova 3 also had no issue installing Google play store.

Sorry that I have no creditable source for your reference. It is all my personal first hand experience. I am sure if you dig around more on Xda or Weibo, you can find some clues. Or you can try your luck asking the China retailer if you can install Google Play store on the m20p.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
That's great news for me.

I wonder why no one has mentioned this online before.

Thank you for your assistance.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ONikku:
I purchased it from a lower-volume retailer on eBay.

It was factory-sealed, as best as I could tell with the plastic wrapping.

This particular seller said that he would not offer to install it for me. He said it would not be on the phone, but Google Play Services appears to come pre-installed.

When you open AppGallery, it'll have you set up your Huawei ID and choose a region. I chose United States, and it said the app was unavailable in the region, but also displayed the option to change the region.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
Thanks for your help.

You and the other person have convinced me that it is indeed possible and very easy, no extra install needed.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
Hey sorry guys, one last question.

What screen did you get?

LG or BOE?

I'm hoping the Chinese are the BOE ones.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] Koong1:
My m20pro is bought in Singapore. No glue gate or green screen bleed so far.

No idea if my screen is BOE or LG.

From what I heard on Weibo, 6GB 128Gb Variant in China have a 1 in 3 chance of getting LG. The remaining 2 chances are BOE. The 8Gb 128Gb and 8Gb 256Gb Variant in China should be all BOE screens.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ONikku:
Mine has an LG screen. I haven't experienced any of the reported screen issues yet, but I only got it yesterday. Fingers crossed, haha..

(8GB 128GB)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] Koong1:
A simple test is just to drip water onto your screen edge to see if there is any green tint.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
I found on another forum;

"To test if your screen glows go into battery settings and turn on the dark mode. Then go to a dark, glare free environment, such as a room at night and open the dialer. You'll immediately be able to tell if your screen is a experiencing this issue."
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ONikku:
Dripped then spilled water along the side.

After the water, I followed these instructions at various screen brightnesses. No problems so far.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
It's been reported it can take 3-7 days gradually getting worse before you notice it, so try this agian in a week and see.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] s327374:
So - this means westerners in China can buy, right? I was worried about Huawei's very recent bootloader locking changes may mean that their phones are less likely to be able to use Google app.

This is confirmed? Simply upload vpn apk - change internet region - then download Google play from huawei app store variant, yes?

Thank you greatly if so - I can go ahead with 8gb purchase without massive worries about ending up with a lemon.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] Delewis:
Tried a Mate 20 Pro in a Chengdu store last night.

Was able to install Google Play Store BUT upon trying to open it immediately crashed. Subsequently installed YouTube. After opening got the message that GMS was not installed.

There was an install GMS button which I clicked, however, nothing happened. Had no VPN however, so if nothing happened because no VPN, or because it won't work even with VPN i'm not sure.

I was under the impression that installing GMS required unlocked bootloader, which seems hard with the Mate 20 Pro?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
The previous two users I was talking to, plus another one on reddit has told me that they are able to get it working without downloading anything else.

I have not seen visual proof, just anecdotal so take that with a grain of salt.

Also whats the return policy in china? I'd think it would be worth getting one and returning if it cant?

You cant access Google in china without the VPN so I feel that would be a reason it wouldn't work, but I wouldn't expect it to crash.

Are you able to try again with a vpn? There are many free ones that don't require a set up, just to check. Also are those phones running a demo software or something?

Also, maybe asking them if they know, its unlikely but always worth a shot.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] Delewis:
No returns policy, and no stock in stores atm.

Yes, they were demo units, but they defs didnt have GMS installed which has me worried as others have said installing GMS requires root access.

I wont have time to go back to store and try again with VPN

That said the store staff said you could install googleplay on the phones, but not sure to what extend I trust them.

Also have to be aware that even after changing language to english somethings will be in chinese e.g. hivoice App
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
That sucks.

I wish someone was able to post proof, ill try and tag some of the other guys and see if they can.

And the speech/ai assistant are Chinese only. Shouldn't be much of an issue for me though, I have my partner who is Chinese :)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
Hey guys, Delewis is having some findings that go against saying its possible, is there anyway you have screenshots/videos of it working, and what version of EMUI and what Model phone?

I know one of you (I think it was ONikku) had it sent with google play installed which makes it harder to confirm but still better than nothing. I attached his finding as a quote below this.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ONikku:
Google Play Services was pre-installed on my device. The Google apps were not, however (except maybe the Google Play Store? I don't remember if I installed that or just updated it from AppGallery).

I was able to update to .126 after I got it Wednesday night and set it up.

Here are some screenshots

I installed most of my old apps from Google Play and haven't had any issues.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] s327374:
Yes! Someone with a definite understanding, please post something, please!!! :)

It does not help that some people might not fully understand that a phone from HK may be from 'China', but it is not really what I mean when i say Chinese Variant, right?

Google is not really a thing in mainland China.

So I think we are only interested in knowing about the Chinese Mainland version. Or HK version if the same and is easily switched via firmware. It is a lot of money to spend on a phone if it doesn't actually work well for the Chinese language challenged of us who live in China.

The thing is, I've been here a while and I've helped buy, unlock and/or put google on a heap of phones for friends and collegues here in China over a period of about 5 or more years. Mostly Xiaomi, Samsung, Huawei, htc, a couple of Oppo and various others too. I'm not in the industry - just help friends. It is pretty fun to get to briefly play with all the different phones.

Anyway, my most recent dealing with a friend's Huawei was the mate pro 10. I seem to remember having not too great a problem finding and installing google framework and apps. It may have already come with partial google framework installed - I can't remember. But Huawei has changed policy on bootloaders recently which has me nervous. I also worry that the AI and other aspects may only be in Chinese as you mentioned above. That would suck. Not completely, but maybe enough to sway me to the oneplus 6t... although I want the camera and better battery life.

roughly 6000 kwai is a lot to spend on a device that can't be used as well as intended because of language restrictions. My current s8+ 6 GB version has been awesome, but I'd like to upgrade to one of the new longer battery models. It was Mainland Chinese, had some google framework, and I found it quite painless to simply insert google and other apps via apkmirror (once I had found out which varieties of apps were needed). The thing I found annoying though, was that I couldn't use the Samsung apps etc because they where all in Chinese. So I took the risk and put on HK Google enabled firmware. Has been awesome! however, I was never able to link it to my Samsung warranty and all that stuff that is now in English, but no longer able to be linked.

I have also owned the Huawei 6P which was fun, but actually quite annoying and needed code inserted into it after any system update for it to work properly. I get that these companies don't really care about these non-Chinese speaking expats in China.

Anyway, long story short. I saw how well the mate 10 worked in China for a westerner. Have really enjoyed seeing it improve in the camera, video, waterproofing, and wireless charging. Think it is my next phone, just want to make sure I don't buy a lemon...

ok - I have written enough. Would be great to see something here soon.

Cheers

---------- Post added at 09:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 AM ----------

This looks promising!

I'll just wait till someone who has purchased from a physical store has the same experience. Your seller may have a HK source? possible?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
Thanks for taking the time to write that.

In the past with Huawei, I've had no issues apart from the HiApp now AppGallery app, the rest were in English after changing the language.

The guy who posted the links model was the AL00, is this not the model that you get from china?

Do HK and China have the same model but different software?

I too am waiting for someone who has bought it in person/from mainland, however I cannot wait too long as I need to decide before December. So at least seeing some people have some success is a good sign.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] zackleeuk:
I bought it from China 8g + 128, it come with Google services.

The only thing I do is go to huawei app store , choose download/update Google play.

You can then download maps YouTube etc from Google play without issues.

I'm based in London. Use EE and O2 network.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ItsMunday:
Sorry, just to confirm you bought it from mainland China, from a store in mainland China, and got model AL-00?

It's great to hear if this is right! Can i also just ask which screen you got, LG or BOE?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] zackleeuk:
Yes bought it mainland china, green color, AL00.

LG panel, it seems good to me.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ONikku:
My box says "Only for sale and warranty in Mainland China", so I'd venture to say it's not an HK variant.

Picture
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] s327374:
Awesome - Awesome - Awesome news. I had a small play with it in a Huawei store in Beijing. I like it. Feels smaller in my hand than my S8+. Staff, of course, told me no google play store options... so...

However, I trust the peeps here over the often strangely uninformed sales staff of various phone manufacturing companies.

Importantly, What about Nova Launcher? I've have never NOT had this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBc7W3Nqpjw at about the 2 minutes 40-second mark, this gentleman is comparing a Chinese firmware based Honor and a UK based mate 20 pro. The Honor does not accept a launcher - he says it is due to it being a Chinese rom... I get that it appears the mate 20 pro can use a launcher in this vid, but my point is that it is very much a uk based firmware version.

Possible to put a launcher on a Chinese firmwared matepro? Honestly, that might just be a bit of a deal breaker for me... The customizability of my app layout is pretty important to me.

Thoughts? Cheers
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] YoSoyCarlosG:
Me too, so far so good with the display. Bought the 256GB version, black. Chinese as well.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] zackleeuk:
I’m waiting to see if can change to global rom.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] Delewis:
Thanks for all the info! Looks like it was just an instore display unit having the trouble with GSM in that case.

I saw a report from someone on the Huawei reddit that they were having trouble receiving Facebook / Google notification while on cellular data on their Mate20 Pro Chinese variant.

Have you seen any similar behavior?

Also are there any apps remaining in Chinese that are super annoying?

Cheers :)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] ONikku:
I don't believe so. So far, I haven't been out and about with my device in an area with a lot of service (nearby towns are fine, but I don't have much coverage near my home or work).

Huawei has some pretty aggressive battery saving features enabled by default, like disabling data when your screen is off, not allowing apps to run in the background, etc. Until I found the settings and modified them, I wasn't getting any notifications unless I at least had my screen on, if not the app open.

If I go out some time this week, I can let you know more regarding mobile data specifically.

There's sometimes a little bit of Chinese on the bottom of my lock screen, but I almost never see my lockscreen with Direct Unlock enabled. I think it's a description of the background from Magazine Unlock.

HiVoice is in Chinese, and HiVision is 'almost always' Chinese when it comes to item recognition and shopping results (there was one time where it wasn't??). It seems that it utilizes hidden "fast apps" to show shopping results and item information (also Chinese).

The theme store is also in Chinese.

I uninstalled the other Chinese apps, so I haven't really been bothered.

Unless you try to use HiVision, you probably won't even notice the Chinese after you do the majority of setting up and tweaking.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] henexekrar:
I just got a Chinese version Mate 20 Pro and was able to "change" the launcher. This is done by installing 3rd party launcher then delete the oem launcher via adb shell.

There are some weird things about using 3rd party launcher, e.g. gesture navigation doesn't work

Long story short I got majority of the things I need working, with a few exceptions, including but not limited to:

- Google Pay can't register card for contactless payment

- LastPass Accessibility service will turn off if you clean the memory

- App management has been crazily annoying. If you leave auto manage on, most app can't run in background.

- Google Find My Phone doesn't work. It rings but can't setup lock & wipe

- My country is not on the list of regions when creating Huawei ID, so I created a Chinese ID instead. But with that, I still can't turn on Find your phone feature provided by Huawei.

- Google At-a-glance partially works, sometimes it does not refresh, haven't figured out why
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] Radhey46:
Hi, I too bought my Mate 20 PRO (LYA-AL10); during visit in mainland China. However once out and in Hongkong, I could install Google Apps with an App "Google Installer" for Huawei phones. Which can be tried on other models as well. Have changed to Nova Launcher and uninstalled Huawei Launcher along with other Chinese Apps as explained by other XDA members else where using adb shell. Now using and getting regular updates in Dubai. No issues so far. Am using Samsung Pay here as supported by my bank.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] desiregeek:
I was also told about Google Pay not working. Better to pay a little more and buy one from Hong Kong with Google Play installed on it
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] henexekrar:
Don't get me wrong, google play service came preinstalled
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ronfin44:
Hey all. This hasn't been a very easy decission to make, but given the financial situation I just put myself in by purcahsing an Alienware laptop, I need to sell one of my phones, and sadly, the Tilt lost the coin toss. :(

Since many of you are like myself and love a great deal, I decided to leave my Tilt in it's "modded" state for sale. The ROM is an offical at&t ROM, but themes and CABS have been left in-place, as also some of the things I got for it like Tom Tom etc. Everything I have for this device is included. All original box items, even the original box. Leather caryy case, and even a brand NEW Motorola BT Headset. Also a 2G memory card. I just listed this on eBay since I'm an eBay junkie, and the price is a staggering low of $250.00! I figure it may get a little auction action, but I can live with parting with it at $250. Not happy about selling it at all, but it's a money thing. :( Unless someone wants to "donate" $250? haha riiight. Ok, well if anyone wants a sweet deal, and this phone doesn't have a mark on it and the screen has has a screen protector on it from day 1!, then bid away.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170211542910

:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ercave1:
I'm interested!

Just bid on it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ronfin44:
Thanks. Rub it in. :(

Just kidding. It's not a happy choice to sell it, but I've been trying to get an Alienware for ages and finally won (auction) one. Oh, and great, I just noticed my other bid on another Alienware seems to be winning so now I'm gonna have to sell myself for a few nights of dirty sex to pay for it. :( :p Figures!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gqstatus0685:
Dude if i had 1 million dollars I'd help you out man. Hope you get a new Tilt soon dude. Seems like a sweet deal. Too bad I have a phone or I would have won that auction.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ronfin44:
Thanks. The same thing happened when I had my Hermes (8525), but in that case I just got bored tweaking it and decided it was time to move on. I wasn't quite done "playing" with the Tilt. Hell, I didn't really get started aside from a few flashes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ronfin44:
$280, with a day to go. Man, every time I look at the page I feel a pain in my gut. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ryncppr:
Trust me your phone will go up in price...a lot of people do not bid until the last minute then it goes crazy!!! I just sold my Samsung i760 on ebay a month ago and the price was $250 for the first 6 days....on the last day I ended up getting $380 for it!!!!

Relax you will get a good price:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TTUStudent:
Legally you can't sell software thats on your phone. You dont own it. If you read the EULA it states that you are buying the right to use there software and that it is non transferable. Be that is it may I would pack my 8 gig with so much stuff and just state that Its the buyers responsibility to delete any unlicensed data.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] knytphal:
I'd be surprised to see it go for less than $400. At least that seems to be the going rate these days.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] starstreak:
Dude, I hope the TOM TOM is yours that your selling. Hate to think someone buys it and then not able to get the serial# or something for it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redbandana:
i really don't get why people announce that their kaiser is for sale in a kaiser forum. kinda pointless IMO.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Vol22002:
He just trying to get the word of mouth thing going to get the auction to sell for more money.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] raver445:
Does the note 9 really have a genuine telephoto lens? Or does it crop the two images together?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Devhux:
It is a true telephoto lens, but in darker situations it uses a digital zoom on the main lens only
[Lenovo A7000 Questions & Answers] shr!pad:
Anybody give the link for cm13 or lineage 13 os for lenovo a7000 OR send the link of kernel sourcr,device tree,vendor..pls

thank you..
[Samsung Galaxy J3 (2016) Questions & Answers] marvin joseph:
I just want to ask and confirm if this model (sm j320zn) of J3 has USB OTG feature. I was trying to connect my mouse and usb flash drive since yesterday but my phone won't recognize them at all. Does this phone even have usb otg support? I have two usb otg cables and both of them work fine when connected to other devices so I don't think they are the problem. Sorry for my bad english.