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[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] BlackKeys:
Here is data from a test of Q1 and Pixel stand, and a Q1 phone and Pixel 3. Although not truly definitive, it supports conjecture that

1. Pixel stand will fast charge Pixel 3.

2. Pixel stand will NOT fast charge Q1 phone.

3. Q1 stand will fast charge Q1 phone.

4. Q1 stand will NOT fast charge Pixel 3.

As Pixel is using Power Delivery (PD) standard, this data is consistent with that. Also, both the Pixel 3 and the Pixel stand are compatible with the BASIC Q1 standard of 5 watts maximum.

Google is licensing outside vendors to supply compatible chargers, but undoubtedly these will fast charge on PD systems ONLY, as the Pixel stand does. In light of this, I would seriously recommend paying for any Q1 charger, as shown in above "list", if you are expecting to fast charge a Pixel 3. Unfortunately, the Pixel 3 will lie to you by displaying fast charge on Q1 stands , but it will NOT fast charge!
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] PuffDaddy_d:
I guess you meant "not recommend paying"

This is the prevailing wisdom right now.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] BlackKeys:
Ouch! I was typing faster than I was thinking! Thank you for correcting me. I appreciate it.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Roscopcoletrain:
But again, this is just speculation at this point. I see no reason why once this gets rolled out to more vendors they won't make a charger that does max for everyone. Belkin does now.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] BlackKeys:
What Belkin model does "max for everyone?" They haven't yet released the one which will fast charge a Pixel. Whether that one will fast charge anything else is unknown at this point.

Google appears to be taking an Apple like approach to standards. Allowing other vendors to skirt that approach would be quite inconsistent. However, I do acknowledge that this is speculative at this point.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Roscopcoletrain:
https://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F7U052/

Of course it doesnt do Pixel yet. But this model covers most all other phone models. So, who's to say they won't add Pixel tech to this one as well?
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] piccit:
The listing for the pixel 3 one is out there (https://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F7U050-MG/) and it doesn't mention fast charging any other brands
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Roscopcoletrain:
nope. But they also list an iphone only model, a Samsung model, etc. So its not surprising they'd do a pixel only as well to start.

I'm just saying, there's nothing that I've seen officially stating that chargers won't be compatible with everyone at some point.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] CSX321:
Final version in black PLA. I'm really happy with the way this turned out.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] stuspick:
So you don't use the adapter that came with the Nexus charger? I don't see any power rating on it. I just see 1.8amps on the square Nexus charger.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] CSX321:
Yes, sorry, I guess I was rounding up. :) The 1.8amp one works fine. It won't work properly with a 0.5 or 1amp one, though, I think.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] :
I got my pixel stand today! Love it so far! No problems that it overheats or even discharges while watching YouTube!

What in fact a bit strange is that it was at 79% said rapidly charging and still needed 41 min to fully charge! That's not really fast if you ask me

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[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Roscopcoletrain:
well its still wireless. its going to be slower than wired regardless. and the higher the battery %, the slower it charges.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] :
I was thinking something like that, that it slows down

Thx

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[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Roscopcoletrain:
REally wish we'd start seeing some chargers already though. Want something for my work desk
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] jonnyg1097:
I was able to get the pixel stand for free with my purchase so it is by my bed and use it at night time. Back when I was using my Nexus 5 I had bought two cheap $5 wireless chargers that I was (then) using one at my bed side and one by my computer desk. However, now that I am working I plugged one back in at my desk (I don't need fast charging when I am at home) and I will bring the other one to work, as I dont trust co-workers with a more expensive ones lol.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Super-Veloce:
wireless is 10W, with cable is 18W, that's almost double.. with cable it would be about 24min

I hope to see a nice 10W wireless car charger soon
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] kingoftf:
Someone knows this brand?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CXV4RXQ/ref=twister_B07F2T81XW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

But I think as it is not certificated by Google it will charge less powerfull than 10 W
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Taomyn:
I bought the Google charger, but for my car I just got the Nillkin Magnetic Wireless In-Car Charger (version-C) and it works pretty well albeit on slow charge and with it's included metal c-plate is able to hold the phone and still charge through my Cruzerlite case: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07CHKW7Q2/ref=cfb_at_prodpg
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] alxrock:
BestBuy has the Google Pixel Stand for just $39.99 for Black Friday. I just ordered mine.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google...-xl-cell-phones-white/6302894.p?skuId=6302894
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] mnguyen127:
Awesome. Just snatched one. Thanks!
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Sieber101:
Using Google Express you can get an additional $9 off with 20% off code. Picked one up for $32
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] PuffDaddy_d:
I couldn't find it on Google Express website. It only shows the full price through the Google store. The best buy website shows the right price but no Google Express checkout link.

Edit:

Nevermind, I found it by downloading the Google Express app.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Sieber101:
You can also search online using "ga00507-us"

The code is Holiday18
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Aleq:
Anybody knows, if regular QI charger (5W) is still capable of charging (although slowly) the device in use (GPS navigation, screen with high brightness)? Or does the battery level go down?
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] k0rner:
Yes, definitely. For me, stats are as follows:

- Phone idle, screen off. Wireless charging current is 700-750 mA.

- GPS on, navigation app (Waze) running, Torque OBD in background: Still able to charge with 200 to 450 mA, depending on screen brightness.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] dgrobe2112:
i used navigation this weekend for thanksgiving, and my Scosche worked.. slowly.. but didnt actually gain any charge while using navigation. kept it levelish..

but, my car charger that i got from verizon, did work better, and charged when plugged directly into the phone
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Trident10:
I have a doubt. I have a mate 20 pro and im thinking switch to the pixel 3. anyone knows if i can make the pixel 3 super charging (around 18W, i think) with the mate 20 pro super charger (40W)? i dont mean do the supercharge of the mate 20 pro on the pixel but just make the normal pixel 3 fast charging. if anyone knows or can test i would be really thankfull and apreciate it. thanks
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Che Kirila:
Strange behavior of wireless charging - Pixel 3

Before I've got original Pixel Stand, I used generic wireless charger. No surprises, it chargers P3 slowly. But there is more. Sometimes it doesn't charge P3 at all. Way more strange, that almost the same behavior I have with Pixel Stand. After some days I began to suspect there is a regularity - the charge at full speed works with at least 85% of charge at phone. If the charge is lower, the possibility the charge would be at rapid speed is pretty low. It can claim it charges rapidly, but in fact it doesn't charge at all, since the charge is going down at the same rate as phone out of any charging. I definitely have relatively small statistics and can not say for sure that 85% is a "red line" for triggering wireless charge start (regardless of speed in my case). Today even at 91% phone battery wireless charging at Pixel Stand didn't start at all (with "charging rapidly" announcement at screen and slowly discharging phone). Other functions of Stand work pretty good regardless of what's going on with charging. I didn't contact Google Customer Service since the results are unstable.

Is anybody has similar experience or bigger statistics? I think, the problem is in the Pixel 3 itself - something is wrong with its handshake with Stand or other charger since in my case it behaves in that regard similarly at both chargers. I ordered a couple of generic wireless charges from aliexpress before I've got my hand on Pixel Stand and continue my research (for slow charging or just charging) to be more consistent with overall behavior of charging process of P3.

The Pixel Stand was bought from Verizon online store, Pixel 3 - from Google online store, last update is Security patch Nov 5, so it's current. The chargers are original, from the box of Stand and phone, both charge phone at full speed through cable.

Beware of Skynet - gadgets shouldn't be too smart!
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] koo9527:
There are many brands of wireless chargers. There is no need to buy Samsung brands, such as CHOETECH, Anker, Belkin, etc., all of which are cost-effective products, but also need to see how much your demand is, and is a vertical wireless charger. Still a wireless charging pad. More than 7.5W have fast wireless charging function, and vertical charging is currently popular. Currently, only CHOETECH has the advantage of the price on the vertical and wireless charging board, which can save you money and is free shipping. Anker and Belkin are relatively More expensive, if you need, you can go to their official sales website ichoetech.com to buy, I hope to help you!

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[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] dimmak:
I have a 10W charger from Ugreen but it doesn't charge rapidly. Fast enough for me..
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] zswielder:
I don't think that's true. I read that Pixel 3 only works at 10W with certified wireless chargers. There are wireless chargers capable of 10W but will only charge at 5W when used with Pixel 3 (googled it).
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Arcanide:
I hate Google for limiting the ability of 10W

I hate Google for limiting the ability and also not providing any normal alternatives by taking their time to verify other wireless chargers but their own and Belkin's which can also be bought only through their store and not even from Belkin themselves.

The only thing that bothers me about my Pixel 3.

Shame shame shame.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] PuffDaddy_d:
You are correct. I made that statement before Google published their specs.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Portgas D. Ace:
I have purchased the Anker PowerWave 10W Wireless Charger, which advertises 10W of charging (at least for compatible Samsung devices). I decided to purchase this one due to two reasons, knowing that this one won't be able to quick charge my Pixel 3.

First, I wanted a wireless charging pad/stand. Second, I don't want to use the regular quick charging cable or any other quick charging solution to charge my Pixel 3 over night. Quick charging is indeed a burden for the battery in the long run due to the corresponding physics behind it. Also, why do I need quick charging if I won't use my phone during the night at all? If I need some quick charge during the day, I will use the supplied quick charge cable.

This setup (wireless charging during night time, quick charging (if required) during daytime) does fit my needs very well.

I also have some Tasker actions set up that trigger as soon as the phone is charging wirelessly and also in an upright position, so I also have some advanced Google Stand capability, tailored to fit my needs.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] miketrout1995:
I am using ChargeBoost Wireless charger for my device. It isn't very expensive and works like charm. You can know more about it. I read an article on ChargeBoost Reviews & then bought one myself.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Dany XP:
Just using on of those cheap standing ones from eBay for like 6 bucks, I use it during the night before going to sleep and in the morning battery is full. Sometimes I use it as standing for like watching a movie and charging at the same time...all good
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Note10.1Dude:
Yeah, this is one of the few upgrades that the Pixel 4 got - works with any EPP charger. All I can guess is that EPP wasn't a finished standard when Google finished the Pixel 3.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Note10.1Dude:
No. For the Pixel 3 they must specifically be Pixel 3 compatible. That is the Pixel stand and possibly 1 belkin charger.

For the Pixel 4, any charger that has Qi EPP (which is different from the Samsung method) will work, but not with the Pixel 3.

All those Samsung and Apple fast chargers are dead to us, as they use a proprietary process. Over time, hopefully Qi EPP will take over as the common standard.

Sorry, I realize I answered a year-old question. Wasn't paying attention...
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] jd1639:
Good info though. Thanks.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] tjsooley:
I have this and use it with my Pixel 3. Works correctly.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QHZ7XK2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Note10.1Dude:
Updates on experience is always good, but I would bet good $ that you are only getting a 5W charge rate, not a 10W. I've tried several chargers, and none have fast-charged the Pixel 3 at more than 5 W.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] tjsooley:
Getting 10W
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] DON2003:
does this means until now still the Google Pixel Stand is the only wireless charger that charge 10w? also the Belkin which is also expensive, no cheaper alternatives?

but how slow is 5w? takes how long to full charge the pixel 3 with 5w? thanks
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] CSX321:
I've been using my old 5W Nexus charger with my Pixel 3 since the beginning. It's fine. I typically put it on the charger at bedtime, and it's always charged in the morning. I suspect it takes around 3 hours, but I don't know for sure.
[Google Pixel 3 Accessories] Aditmac1:
Well I'm here to look for a wireless charger that ACTUALLY charges up the Pixel 3 rapidly....
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] cantara256:
Can anyone confirm that Substratum themes work on this phone?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Archangel:
Substratum wont work on this phone until we have root. Android Pie only allows Substratum to work on rooted phones due to Google's deletion of the overlay management service.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] cantara256:
Cool, thank you. It's working on other rooted devices running Pie right? So it's a pretty good shot it'll just work once we have root?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] galaxys:
It's working with Pie on the rooted Pixel 2XL...
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] freebee269:
did they say why they deleted the overlay management system? That was a great addition to the Oreo version.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Archangel:
Oh yeah any other device running Pie that is rooted Substratum should work fine depending on the theme. Once we get root we should be good to go.

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They probably wont ever say but they dont like us tinkering around with their apps. There was a petition to keep OMS in Pie but they just ignored it and decided, as they usually do, to do what they want. Its the same thing with the Old style navbar,,,the code was there like OMS, just leave it in there for users to use it if they want. I have been with Android since it started and the "freedoms" we once enjoyed are being slowly eroded and choices taken away. Pretty soon we will be Apple and everything will be proprietary.

Annnnd yet another feature taken away from us! I mean really,,,I use this feature just about everyday and now its gone probably like this Pixel 3 will be when I send it back to Google!

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/19/pixel-3-drops-support-voice-match-unlocking/
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] NepoRood:
I think they just blocked 3rd party overlays, not dropped OMS completely. IF there was no OMS, then Substratum wouldn't work properly, right? A ROM would need the necessary commits from Subs team (frameworks, etc), like we had to do with Nougat. Yet, you can run it on stock AOSPie, as long as you're rooted.

I may have it wrong, lol, I know I'm just ready to get my P3XL :D
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Archangel:
Root is hopefully right around the corner and then Substratum can work,,,cant wait!
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] lollyjay:
I saw a few posts that indicated that subs not working after rooting
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Archangel:
Oh no I rooted as easy as any other phone and my themes applied fine. Some people may not be applying the themes right on Pie. I was even able to get rid of that God awful gesture navbar and get the old one back so I can flash my navbar theme.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] lollyjay:
Good to know
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] jamiejames:
Not sure why I didn't try it. I just assumed it wouldn't work. Not only does it work, everything is themed.

Thanks for saying something. That white ui was painful.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
Swift Black on the 3 XL is a God send

Now in all the System and Google apps, you can't even tell there's a notch. Everything has a beautiful silky black look, and you just see the time in upper left and network info in upper right, and no idea there's even a notch in the middle as everything is black which totally hides the notch completely, but it's nice to see that info in the upper corners, makes the screen look like it goes all the way to the edge.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] gettingerr:
Can you please share the right way to apply themes on Pie?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Badger50:
Unless the procedure is different on the P3XL as compared to my P2XL on Pie, the procedure is as follows.

Install the latest substratum from the play store, and grant it root and storage permissions.

Download a quality theme, and there are several.

Open substratum and tick the theme you want to apply.

Select "build and update" to create the overlays you want. Once done, reboot the phone, then go to substratum again, open the manager, then check your overlays, and select enable.

That should do it :good:
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Archangel:
I think someone already answered but most forget to go back into Substratum and click enable on all the overlays that you built previously then rebooted. Its not like Oreo where all you had to do was just build and enable. Now, you have to build and enable then reboot and go back into manager and enable the built overlays again.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
I am themed on the Swift series, but I did not know about this rebooting and enabling again. I was wondering why it wasn't working at first I would reboot go back into it and then an able again just out of frustration that knowing that was the right way to do it but seems weird to have to do that extra stuff now
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] iixAndroidx:
Can confirm themes work just have to reboot after applying them and re enable them after reboot.

If I may ask how did you change the navbar ? And put those icons ?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Archangel:
I made a Google doc and posted the link below for my themes to help people that may run into problems,,,if you scroll down the last page there is a guide to enable the old style navbar. The icons are part of my Substratum theme Amazed Navbars.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LqNd7pltj3G0rPopgW11PybpcCQCNufMblvl6lUb2Tk/edit?usp=sharing
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Geekser:
How did you get the Nav Bar back? I hate the way it is now and would prefer doing something similar to what you did - ? if you can share that would be awesome - thanks

Never mind - I found the guide for changing back to the old Navigaiton menu - https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/heres-how-to-revert-to-the-old-three-button-navigation-system-on-google-pixel-3-5418351.html Thanks
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] freddienuxx:
Yes it does
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] CZ Eddie:
Looks like Swift Light hasn't been updated to android 9 yet.

Only 8.1.

But it did theme some things nicely. I didn't spend much time on it yet though.

Setting up Swift Dark now (way behind on Google app versions btw) so I can get my automatic day/night theme setup.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] MArtyChubbs:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brit.swiftinstaller

Helped me with their themes on Pie. Uninstalled the regular installer.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] tonyfiore75:
Well don't do what I did. I installed the Substratum Theme Engine. Then I installed Pi Dark. Then I tried doing the whole Build & Update thing. The phone shut down and couldn't boot back into the OS. I tried rebooting a number of times but in the end I just had to do a factory reset. That was my only option from the recovery screen. So it's back to square 1 for me - other than it being an unlocked phone.

If I had been home I could have tried to use CMD to remove Substratum theme files but I'm at work and can't use this computer for that type of stuff.

Anyway - lesson learned (sorta).
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
This looks interesting, I'm a big Swift guy, mainly Swift Dark as main theme. So if I purchase and install this, do I not need Substratum app anymore ?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] quangtran1:
Swift Black works fine for me except that the Photos app crashes.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] MArtyChubbs:
Newp nada
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Archangel:
Sounds like the theme you were using wasnt updated or suited for the Pixel 3. A problem like that is usually due to a systemui compatibility issue. If you have a custom recovery like TWRP installed you could have just flashed the rescue zip that gets installed once you open Substratum for the first time. Or, you could have used the ADB commands maybe to uninstall the overlays that you think might have caused the f/c. Might have saved you from a factory reset.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] fbriolini:
Pitch Black works. No issues.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] jawonder:
Using the latest Substratum on Pixel 3 XL 9.0 Rooted with Magisk and Swift Black theme . Nothing works, i selected Swift Black then Select 9.0 as version, Choose app or apps i want to theme then select build and update, reboot and the only option i see to Enable is “Enable Sected’ if i do that is says select a Valid overlay before . I Check Manager and there”s nothing there .
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] smartymcfly:
The swift installer works.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] quinejh:
After these steps I went back into substratum and clicked on apply installed themes rebooted and the themes were there
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] stilltli:
Some stuff work, but a lot does not. I tried to change the position of my clock, which did corrupt my room. Had to factory reset and setup everything again.

I advice to backup everything before trying stuff, could save you a lot of time
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] jawonder:
Don't see that option .
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] quinejh:
Open the theme u want to install, after installing click on the 3 dots up in the right corner of the theme.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] mushages:
Substratum doesn't work with latest v17.4-a9f265a5 build of magisk. please downgrade to 17.3 or wait for subs update.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] jawonder:
OK, that’s my problem . Thanks
[Huawei MediaPad X2] rajasso:
My MediaPad may be missing the lens/lens cover? Doesn't seem to take as good of pictures anymore. Any comment or suggestions about replacement parts? Thanks