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[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] KpKi:
Well to be honest after checking Android pie change log, I am not sure why even Google is bothering with this release. It is more like a "make everything a circle" update rather than an actual relevant update. Nothing is really different so it might not be at all better than Oreo in fact it might be the opposite. I am sad that this will be consider one of the two major updates :( . Back at the days of the Nexus phones, an update meant really drastic change in look and feel, and crazy new features. So if I were you I will not be so hyped about the update, specially that we will get it with Sony boring Android skin so you will not see 80% of the visual changes hence it counter the purpose of this whole update (biggest feature is the new nav system and it is not there in Sony pie edition). Also the new battery AI thing feels like a crap imo. The only good thing is that they will disable microphone for background apps (shouldve been pushed as a security update in Oreo)..... So in conclusion of my long post ...don't expect much at all.... Google should step up its development game .
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] HellRoot:
Well afaik there has been a lot of improvements under the hood. Not everything is looks and feel.

Android is too fragmented, I hope this update will give more consistent performance and possibility of faster updates etc.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] puesco:
I'm hyped for this update to see if it fix my touch problem while gaming...I hope so
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
So the only thing more frustrating than waiting on this update is getting a notice of one this morning and seeing that it's only 245mb... Realising that i probably just got the September security patch and am gonna have to wait 3 extra weeks for the 9.0 because AT&T
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] VinBenzin810:
This is the answer about my Phone when i ASK Sony . Can Tell me Somebody If the Software .20 the Last 8.0 is or is it pie.

Sony says to that Update would 500 mb be
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] xFirefly93:
Have you even experienced 9.0 / Pie?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] dsxyz:
That's the last 8.0, I have the same.

When the update comes, you must have at least 500mb free space.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] KpKi:
How can I ?! But again I understood what you meant. Let us be objective here, in the following link is the Android pie changelog:

https://developer.android.com/about/versions/pie/android-9.0-changes-all

Can you please spot the new performance enhancements on Android 8.1 ? No you can't because most of the things are just API and security adjustments..

I'm not saying Android 9 is bad but im saying it's just Android 8.1 or 8.2 if you will. Nothing more.

If you ask me I think Google should focus on running Android more efficiently, specially when compared to iOS the same app on both platforms will consume significantly more ram on Android. Also they should look into how the can make their system modular. If you think about it windows runs on PC's that has absurd number of hardware combinations from multiple manufacturers...yet Microsoft update all windows machines by themselves... Why Android should be any different. Why should we wait for Sony or Lg or Samsung to get new features or updates?!
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] OliverB95:
It isn't just Google's fault that some apps use more RAM on Android than their version of the app does on iOS. Some developers make a ****ty port for Android while using lots of resources on the iOS app.

And have you ever heard of Project Treble?

EDIT XDA isn't letting me quote for some reason.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] xFirefly93:
I am running 9.0 on my Pixel 2 and Pixel XL (and even with the help of a custom 9.0 ROM on my Nexus 5 with a old-ass SD800 SOC) with pretty damn perfect results regarding both performance and battery life. Even better than what 8.0 / 8.1 even will give me in every possible kind of way(s).

You have to try out 9.0 / Pie yourself for getting a chance to see the under-the-hood improvements.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] KpKi:
Thank you for your input.

First point : well maybe that is the case, but shouldn't Google make more strict rules for app development, Apple does that and their app store is good as Google's if not better. So they should start care about apps and their interaction with the OS rather than keep waiting for more higher density RAM devices. I saw on YouTube major tech reviewers complain about how the pixel's 2 (4 GB) of ram becoming laggy... That is ridiculous if you ask me. We had computers not long ago that run perfectly with 4 GB of RAM.

Second point: project treble only address one layer of Android but leaves the other layers for the OEM to update, so sure it reduces the time needed to update the devices but it is not a huge breakthrough. So I think all treble devices can boot each other ROMs but it will have bugs everywhere. So I can say it is the right step for Android development, but they should keep pushing more Software/HW compatibility. Imagine that if you don't like your OEM Android then simply flash vanilla Android to your device without any bugs here or there (nice right?).

We (mainly I) deviated from the main topic. Sorry, Now where the hell is our Android Pie update xD
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
I think your reading little bits about things and forming opinions based on a serious lack of information. Windows is and always has been an os choice for PC that COSTS money... Windows has had how many versions in how many decades compared to the releases of Android or IOS? Also Android is free software provided to OEM'S. IOS is a closed ecosystem with only 1 OEM making products than run it and that OEM is the same as the software developer... Comparing Android to windows to iOS the way you have just makes no real sense unless all you do is read headlines.

The ram management problem on the pixel 3 phones is probably just a software issue.. I don't know because I haven't read enough. BUT as someone else has said the pixel, the pixel 2 both run 9 great, also a mention of the Nexus 5... So please read more of the articles you start to read. Also ram, processors, and storage speeds and the way it all works on mobile ecosystems varies. Do you know what Android is based off of? Do you under stand that the phone in your hand has zero ability to disipate heat the way a PC or even a laptop can?? iOS does better with less ram yes but so did windows mobile. If you want to complain about the pixels use my argument... Google makes money off of advertising. They are selling a phone that costs as much as the Galaxy series with the camera being the only better quality other than maybe updates. They are double dipping IMO.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] KpKi:
I am completely aware of what I said, neither it was argument based on reading articles headlines (lamo). Also why are we speaking about heat dispation and other unrelated matters, I am asking you to follow your own advice and finish reading the posts you reply to.

My point is only comparing software development choices and decisions . What made windows run on multiple hardware configurations, can also make Android do the same (hard yes, impossible no), being open or closed source doesn't matter here. It is mainly a business choice imo, Google as you said is not charging for the OS so why bother with extra development cost.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Γιώργος5:
We have some progress on the update android 9 for Xperia XZ1 Somebody one new
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] dcrin3:
Don't be too quick to want to get 9.0-pie. There's a chance, slight chance, that drmfix might be over after 8.0 for those whom unlocked bootloader.

The statement above should be taken with a grain of salt.

Have a good one.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] alexdc12:
My support app says there is no next planned version now? Yesterday it said android 9.0

I have an xz1
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] BrainstormPL:
Same. Something strange is happening with this update and Sony doesn't give us any information
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Riegle:
Looks normal for me here, although still no updates...
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Hongphuc1992:
No update.

Sony very bad.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] HellRoot:
Mine says the same... This is getting weird. Sony should begin to inform customers about what they are doing.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] eddymjj:
Today Sony update an older firmware for unbranded XZ1 from France. I don't understand why if Pie come soon...
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
Mine took an update 2 days ago. My carrier probably took a while so that's when I got the latest update. I'd have to assume that's the same for you.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] eddymjj:
OK. I just saw this. I don't download it because I'm already up to date every month.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] drcspynz:
Ummm.... I hope none of you use call recording because with PIE that's gone. Unless you root the phone. That's the ONLY way.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza108:
Did you get the update for Android 9?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Riegle:
Nope. Nothing here. Pretty sure same case for everyone else. Still waiting for that "October 26" to magically come. (:
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandemic:
Patients is what you all people need.. No worries it will come, stay calm and piecefull :cool:
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] BrainstormPL:
Yeah, but its hard to stay all calm and patient when it was promised to be distributed a week ago, and yet no one had the update, Sony stays quiet, and 9.0 dissapears from "next android version" in the support app. It's a bit worrying. Now I actually feel like Sony doesn't give a s*** about its clients. They could at least give us some info on what's going on.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Lavievn:
A screenshot from user with XZ1 "russia" version, but i think this is a misstake like XZP before, people can down load OTA but cant install this, check on xpericheck and flashtool still no new firmware :)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
Either they don't care or just dont have a clue. In the US they have essentially zero presence. No marketing or carrier affiliation. Well there was a little about the xz2 for a week maybe from Best buy.

https://www.androidauthority.com/sony-mobile-earnings-q2-2018-921061/

Edit... Why can't I write more than 1 more sentence without getting cut off?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] D-Rock93:
Idk if this is the right thread or forum for this question but how/will the pie (9.0) update affect people who want to buy the xz1 dual sim model (G8342) and still be able to use it on T-Mobile in the U.S. with Wi-Fi calling, volte, and fingerprint functionality all working?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] eddymjj:
I'm just talking with on the Sony's chat from support and they said Android 9 for the XZ1 is deployed and we must wait the notification. It not notice on Xpericheck...
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
I just talked to them too and it has been released. By them. But that's not when we get the update. They pointed me here to explain

https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2017/11/03/journey-android-software-rollout/#gref
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Γιώργος5:
xz 41.3.A.2.192

Meanwhile I found an update on Xperia xz 41.3.A.2.192 is new android 9 update; The old one xpericheck
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] eddymjj:
The said the same.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] BrainstormPL:
I also talked to them and they told me it's already deployed on some devices in UK and Ireland.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] dcrin3:
Evening, Pacific time.

This is what I see:

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[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Hongphuc1992:
Hey all bro.

This is official information.

https://xdaforums.com/xperia-xz1/how-to/calendar-update-android-pie-9-0-xperia-t3862583#post78057522
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] drcspynz:
Yeah Android 9 - "Pie" . Where Google has removed call recording. Doh ! You have to root your phone to re-enable the functionality.

And Sony. Yeah I own an XZ1 . Released here in New Zealand a year ago. I purchased mine six months ago. There have been ZERO security and firmware updates released in this locality ! Untill I myself updated it using FlashTool it was still on the original Firmware from release date. Wtf ? This is a 'Flagship' model, and one of the listed Google Enterprise models. I thought Google expected Sony were obliged to release updates on a monthly cycle. Well they do but they don't reach us here in Nz. NOT ONE UPDATE in a year. I have been onto Sony about this and they say 'Oh it's the network providers who are slow to release the new updates' . Odd that as I have asked these Network providers and they have NOT received any updates. Grrrr..............
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sungfive:
My XZ1 had received updates every month till now. Someway disappointed by the delayed Android 9.0 release but really I cannot complain about their update policy.

Probably you have a telephone operator' customized firmware

Anyone had some news about the update? Is it sure it is delayed by one month?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] drcspynz:
Grr @ Sony

Yeh - nah there is no operator customisation of the firmware on this phone. Sony Mobile Nz are just plain outright useless. I KNOW that Sony have not passed any updates to the local operators. Guess it's just not on their 'to do' list ? New Zealand after all only has a full population of 4.5 Million and I'd be interested to know how many Xperia phones they sell each year. I'd be guessing it's only a few thousand. Maybe 10,000 ?

Not worth their while to bother too much here.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] dcrin3:
You should be happy they held the updates because some serious work needs to be done for this month:

https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2018-11-01.html
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
These are just security updates not stability updates. There will always be security updates, that's why they are monthly...
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] dcrin3:
That's true, I just wanted those in there before they released 9.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] mehmetzengin:
Merhaba Değerli Arkadaşlar, Sony Xperi XZ1 Kullanıcısıyım Türkiyede yaşıyorum, Türkiye forumlarında Kesin ve Sağlıklı bilgi alamadım. Android Pie dağıtımı Ülkelere göre 26 ekimde dağıtılacağı söylendi ancak henüz bir paylaşım yoktur. Konuyla ilgili bilgisi olan varsa paylaşabilir mi acaba? Şimdiden Teşekkür ediyorum.

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[MENTION=9546885]mehmetzengin[/MENTION]

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Hello Dear Friends, Sony Xperia user of the XZ1 I live in Turkey, and did not get precise information on Healthy Turkey forums. Android Pie distribution According to countries 26 October was said to be distributed but there is no share yet. Can you share any information you have on the subject? Thank you in advance.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Donczech:
Hi guys just had a call from Sony in Europe czech Republic about my question where is my update to pie.

Android 9 was released 2 weeks ago. But an updates are released in each region and country on different time. So it means that some countries still may wait hrs days weeks even a months before they will recieve an update. So it is impossible to tell exact date when our xz1 will recieve notification of an update. Another thing is that each country has its own telecommunication market and network providers and they may refuse to distribute and updates for some devices and brands just to distribute others. So even if the android 9 is Allready aviable it depends now on network providers when they will distribute. Every mobile network privider like t-mobile Vodafone orange and many others prioritas software distribution for brands they sell the most so that has influence on telecom market in each county and that has influence on soft distribution. So this time it is not sony fault android 9 is out there just be patient. Sorry for my english
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] mehmetzengin:
Tank you
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] pavitra.das:
This information about "each region and country" is true, but this is not our case. They told you just the general stuff. Android 9 was NOT released 2 weeks ago because IMMEDIATELY somebody will post a screenshot here or another website. Internet is quite so far. We have now so far only some users which got notifications for an update but it was a mistake - not real one.

Sony will never tell us what is the reason for the delay! XZ2 Premium needed to take the update as promised today on 7th - no update for them too.

So... keep waiting :)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] mehmetzengin:
Thank you very much for information
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] qbic2:
Unbranded, Poland, no update.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] cas_vis95:
Same but in Italy
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] mic0071334u:
Me too://
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] alexdc12:
Surely if its been released the storefront version would be in xperifirm??
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
So this post by hongphuc1992 several days before your post has no information or update??

It was posted here on xda. In the xz1 forum. And in the same section as the post you clicked on. And it's in the top of the list...
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Techamazon:
You guys do realize they aren't gonna release a new Android update (not to mention a new version rather than a monthly patch) twice a month which is why you shouldn't really moan. You can expect it to roll out this/next week as it's always been for OEMs for the past 2 years or so.

This place smells too much of Ook-Ook!
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
Had to look up ook-ook and have to partially disagree... Strong backed weak minded males who will lift things for ladies?? Lol
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] yyiimm:
I remember someone told us the update would be delayed only for a few days because of some bugs. well, it's been 2 weeks!!!
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandemic:
Damn what a complainers here.. Can you guys have some patients ? Its delayed due some bugs and Sony fixing that at the moment, i heard a memory leak or something but sure Pie comes ;)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Alaa | Google Android:
I hope it's in coming days

Not end of this month ?

Sony said from November
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandemic:
Yeah and november just started.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] FlandreKanade:
hey guys，customized Vietnam just updated to 47.2.a.0.306.

is that pie?

https://xpericheck.com/device/G8342
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] hummer007:
I'm already downloading the firmware, when I install I will write what is the version
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] VinBenzin810:
Thats for the dual Version
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] trungtr:
[/QUOTE]

it's Pie, my phone is updated
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] VinBenzin810:
it's Pie, my phone is updated[/QUOTE]

Which Phone model do you have ?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] trungtr:
Which Phone model do you have ?[/QUOTE]

G8342

XZ1 dual sim
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] SGH-i200:
Screenshot, please! :D
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] johnnysrodriguez:
Guys, the android pie update is now available in vietnam, check xpericheck.com
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pyteknew:
it's Pie, my phone is updated

[/QUOTE]

Are there gestures for navigation?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Iron Imperial:
The update has started to roll out according to http://www.xperiablog.net/2018/11/1...peria-xz-premium-and-xz1-family-47-2-a-0-306/
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] trungtr:
Just a litter change at Status bar & Setting. But nothing new or big change. Dont know why it take about 1.5Gb to update.

alot of disapointed

screenshot about new gesure : when u push power/volume button
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] nick0s23:
According to trungtr's screenshot we also have an updated kernel. I think it's the first time a phone that I own gets that kind of an update. This should be quite good news
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] arslancn:
is downgrade possible after updating to pie?

Thanks
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sungfive:
Yep that would be a very important news if they were not only kernel patches update
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Alaa | Google Android:
Yeah

Was : 4.4.78

Now : 4.4.148
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] lilbrat:
Hmm.. Not sure whether to laugh or really wonder over the last few post.. Did you really think that you wouldn't get a new kernel with a new android version..
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandemic:
Happy now to get Pie bunch of complainers lol

Sent from my xz2
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] lilbrat:
And I really wouldn't call it a roll out... What one country has received it.. Someone had to be the guinea pig.. ;) -
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] lionelbac:
This is great! Any chance to get DRM fix for Pie?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Stuknuk:
Are the button on the navigation closer to the center like in the xz2 (huawei style)? If yes, is they a way to make it look like before?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsadidas:
From your past posts you were going to be disappointed no matter what. All your looking for is a new skin not an os update...
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Alaa | Google Android:
Yes

You need to change display size to small
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] snake218:
Is camera working on a unlocked phone after update to pie?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandemic:
If you flashed drm fix on oreo and updated to pie then yes.. It works in my xz2 what have pie since october lol.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] johnnysrodriguez:
Been waiting for so long now it's finally on my XZ1. I appreciate everything about this Pie update. The autobrightness is made better, the UI changes helps for easier interaction, loved that new audio volumne slider, new animation on notifications and window transitions. You've gotta try it too, wait for your region update or manually flash it like I did.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] eddymjj:
Is the camera has the same icon like xz2 or it's an icons pack in the screenshot ?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] kruchkou:
Oh my, I didn't expect that Sony'll add the screen temp correction, that's awesome!

is there any difference in "customized" roms for different countries?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] johnnysrodriguez:
Yeah same icon as xz2, but for the screenshot I'm using an icon pack
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] Alaa | Google Android:
Sony updated the icons and it's an advantage ?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] eddymjj:
OK you for your answer.

The stock clock app has a white background too ?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] johnnysrodriguez:
Black
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] eddymjj:
Thank you for your answer.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  Guides, News, & Discussion] oli_brius:
Anyone got Pie on G8341 ?

It seems like only G8342 have it for now :rolleyes: