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[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Rakibboss:
I think this one supports quick charge 4

https://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Certified-Delivery-Charging-Nintendo/dp/B07FQKGB9D
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] thesoupthief:
A bunch of QC 4 chargers have showed up on AliExpress over the past few weeks - less than €8.

Still a lot more than the QC 3 chargers, but here you go:

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/vUSqnBa
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Senior_Pj:
Has anyone tried these chargers as i doubt they are qualcomm certified and if they don't charge at that rate the time will go waste and also the money.

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Can you pst some images of charger and the output power rating that are engraved on charger or the box which it came in ????
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] thesoupthief:
They could be snakey - I don't have one to check - but fwiw I bought a QC 3 charger like this one from the same site - about €2 and charges just as quick as the standard issue QC 3 one, so I wouldn't dismiss them out of hand
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Malexirian:
Here you go
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Senior_Pj:
Hi, thanks for the image but i have another one from that chinese one, see if it has all the compatible specs of charging rate for quick charge 4+/4.

Check and tell me if it is compatible!!!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] thesoupthief:
While those white ones from AliExpress and wherever you found that one don't state QC 4 on the hardware, they carry the same charging ranges as the one Malexirian has - which also seems not to have QC 4 printed on it, btw. The AliExpress ones have the following: Type-C output:

DC5V~3A, DC9V~3A, DC12V~2.5A, DC15V~2A

I'd get one if there were one with a UK / Irish 3pin plug
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Malexirian:
My charger has the QC4+ logo
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] thesoupthief:
Fair enough - I stand corrected!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] omargamalxx:
Correct me if im wrong but any 18w pd charger will support qc4+
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] kepnosa:
Thats not the Qualcomm quick charge logo for certified devices.

Please check the original logo attached bellow and see if it either printed on the charger or on the box .

Source: Qualcomm quick-charge faq
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Senior_Pj:
Hi, thanks but as of the logo on that charger it atleast shows that the charger is supporting quick charge may be not officially certified my qualcomm as it needs royalty to be paid.

But i wanna ask you people that if anyone knows the coverter that can help me plug car charger to a power socket????
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] thesoupthief:
You mean like this?

I'm an AliExpress junky!

Coincidentally I've found that much of the stuff on AliExpress is junk, but it's all cheap as chips - it's a little like very low stakes gambling - you throw a few pennies at something that looks interesting. A few weeks later you get a parcel which is either rubbish or great
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Senior_Pj:
Wow, thanks can you search me a quick charge 4+ cable PD (type c to type c)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] thesoupthief:
Come on! Now you're getting a bit cheeky! Have a look yourself - the app's pretty handy.

I haven't been able to find qc4 cables sold alone - I bought one of these which works nicely with my qc3 charger.

Given that the absolute peak power level is the same across qc3 and qc4/+ I would have thought this should be fine, but I wouldn't know

Have a look yourself though - there's loads of top notch junk on AliExpress

Btw this one is C to C. It's rated to carry 60watts (topping out at 100w). I couldn't help myself - told you I'm an AliExpress junky!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Senior_Pj:
Hi, thanks for all your help.

Actually, it was difficult to find as it doesn't show result according to keywords.

So, here is my pick of all the 3 components that i would buy for quick charge 4+ support and all these work and combined together they will give what this group needs

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bas...-USB-Car-charger-Metal-Case/32914556915.html?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Inn...12V-DC-EU-Car-Power-Adapter/32884097645.html?

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bD3zYpMc
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] thesoupthief:
Yeah, I saw that baseus cigarette lighter charger - I wasn't particularly impressed with it, simply because it adds a bit more complexity. I'm guessing baseus will launch some direct mains plug in devices to their range soon.

I'd say go for the baseus cable and those Power Delivery /QC 4 compatible mains chargers, but I'm guessing
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Senior_Pj:
As, this charger will work for now, so i was willing to buy it but i have one issue that the cable doesn't support pd 3.0 and also, i am sure that it thuderbolt 3 is compatible with pd 3.0
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] thesoupthief:
I tweeted baseus to ask if they make a wall charger to meet the needs. Doubt they'll get back but I'll let you know. Incidentally, on their website the car charger from AliExpress doesn't state it's qc4 compatible. Sometimes you get snakey gear on AliExpress (I bought a Giant D-lock for my bike which was most certainly not a Giant product when it arrived)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Senior_Pj:
Hi, thanks for check.

I checked one of the review and there one of person posted screenshot of the quick charge 4+ supporting baseus charger, he also some other pics where it was supporting vooc, spc and apple charge too.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Revantyalla:
actually i have mailed to hama.com, they say that it is qualcomm certified quickcharge 4+ charger.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] kepnosa:
Thanks, this is a great news to hear because they aren't a lot of certified qc 4+ chargers in the market, but i'm wondering why they didn't put the right logo on the charger or on the box and it's not listed on the Qualcomm's qc list too.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Malexirian:
There are differents type of logo, the full name + Q4 logo or just the Q4 or Q4+ like on my charger.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] kepnosa:
Sorry but according to Qualcomm there is only one official logo for qc 4/4+ and when i was trying to purchase a certified qc 3.0 chargers i found a lot of companies (AliExpress) sell their products as compatible qc(not certified) but with different logos and their products didn't exist on Qualcomm qc certified list.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Malexirian:
In the Qualcomm website you can see differents logos on certified products. .. even the short logo version.

https://www.qualcomm.com/solutions/mobile-computing/features/quick-charge
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] kepnosa:
Yes i agree with you but i think the official logo if not on the charger is on the box.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Senior_Pj:
Bro, you got the charger ???

Sorry,if i bothered you.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] swamych:
yes i got it see this thread http://en.miui.com/thread-4689290-1-1.html
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
I ordered an Tronsmart PD3 + Qc4 charger.

But it won't quick charge my poco.

But the same cable can PD charge my other devices...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Senior_Pj:
Did you tried it or just ordered one ??

Also, if you can give me link for the charger ??
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] deag34960:
I ordered one, I gonna get it this week, so I'll tell y'all how it works
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
i tried 1.....

But cant get it to quick charge my poco ....

https://www.tronsmart.com/products/wcp01-usb-c-pd-30-wall-charger
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Senior_Pj:
Hi, thanks for sharing the links, but this is not the 30W charger that is compatible with quick charge 4/4+.

It is only a normal 18W one.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
But it show in the 3rd picture...

Can you confirm that??
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] venkatkrishna_s:
i had the same problem ..after searching online ..i got this info ...certain qualcom chargers have regulaters in them ..depending on the phone's temperature ,the output increases or decreases ..i tried this ..i cooled my phone till 27-28 degree celcius and charged ..the output was around 3000-3100 mA on an qc 3 charger(not the stock)..if the temperature increased the output decreased and it never caused heating or anything and phone never went above 33-34 degree celcius ..but on stock the temp went above 37 degrees ....heating kinda reduces battery life..so try to keep the temp ow and charge the phone..then it will charge faster
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
Hmm, will reduce the phone temp and try again.

But PD charge it working on my 2 other devices...

Weird, but 27c to me is ridiculously low to activate the QC...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] venkatkrishna_s:
I don't know why but ..at 35 or 36 degrees ..the note 9 was fast charging ..but when I tried with Poco it didn't ..I reduced the temp and tried ..it started working ... and probably we should take into consideration that the batteries on poco are different when compared to others ..Poco has Li-Po battery while most of the other phones have Li-ion ...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
I tried my Tronsmart charger with 16c temp but still not doing any quick charge or fast charge...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] venkatkrishna_s:
Probably it's not compatible with our phones ...today I tired to maintain the temp between 28-30 and it was charging damn fast ...way more than stock mi charger ...if u can try it at that temp ..maybe it's the ideal temp for charging ...cause ..I saw certain phones not fast charging at low temperatures ..if u want Google that ...but I don't know if it's the same case for Poco ..try doing it at 28 or 30 degrees ..
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] donk165:
I feel like quick charge 3 is fast enough, according to my lock screen infro, it charges at 2800mah @ 12v, and thats on a 18w charger. How much faster is quick charge 4 meant to be? Im not too sure how accurate the lock screen info is. 12v sounds a bit high?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
Is not just about faster charging speed to me but temperature...

As i charge my phone while playing games.

So QC4+ will definitely helps alot for my usage...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Puneeth 676797:
Using stock charger? Which rom? Using a custom kernel?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] donk165:
No way on the stock charger :P My UK stock charger is pretty slow, think its like 1500mah @ 5v or something. I bought a quick charge 3 charger on amazon. ZKAPOR brand. 18w max output. Im using crDroid ROM, latest build, and using the included kernel that came with that ROM.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
Did anyone tried Aukey qc4 charger?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] artmomeymi5:
dia anyone try razer charger qc 4+
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
BTW what charger you are using?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] deag34960:
How much amperage and voltage can I get with a charger compatible with quick charge 4.0? I have a poco f1 and with the stock charger I get 2600 mAh and 4 volts as maximum through Ampere app. I got a 30w charger but I don't know if I'm getting the correct input or if it's problem of the cable. Thanks for your answers to y'all.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
Ampere app is not accurate.

Our poco only can charge upto 27w regardless of what kind of charging.

But buying high watt charger can be used for future device...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] deag34960:
Afaik poco f1 supports QC 4.0 (27w)...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
Thanks for the correction...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Theking haha:
Wait poco f1 can support up to 27w? Mine cant exceed 15w no matter what charger I use....how to exceed 18w? I have charged with more than enough power

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Sorry forgot to quote u

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How do u make it past 18w?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
Maybe poco still haven't activate real qc4.0 function? Hence can't get rapid charge on certified qc4 charger?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Malexirian:
You guys should go back to page 3 of this thread (page 3 on the XDA app), and read my 2 post with the graphics showing the difference with QC3 and QC4+ and the link to the charger I bought.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
Maybe is because you are charging while the phone is OFF?

Did you get 'Fast Charging' words when you charge with phone on?

And are you using Poco F1 or Pocophone F1?

Trying to figure out things clearly.

Thanks
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Malexirian:
Yes I get fast charging while the phone is on, around 2760 mA. Pocophone F1 and Poco F1 are the same phone, Poco F1 is just the name in India. Mine is a Pocophone F1.

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My charger didn't come with the cable, so I bought one strong one that is certified to charge MacBook pro. There are so many fake/slow USB type C cable, so be aware of that if you want to get one. I got a thunderbolt 3 cable just to be sure ^_^.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Darklouis:
Here is the official list of QC 4 supported devices and official QC 4 chargers on their website.

https://www.qualcomm.com/media/docum...evice-list.pdf
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] deag34960:
Thanks for you feedback, I have a question what voltage did you get with qc4?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
are you measuring using app or hardware??
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Malexirian:
I'm am mesuring using AccuBattery.

Here is a screenshot with the some data while charging, the voltage is 4 129 mV.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Rakibboss:
On official mi website they say poco support quick charge 3.0 .I also doubt it to support quick charge 4.0..i bought a charger that support quick charge 4.0.. But never saw charging more than 18watt.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Darklouis:
For those people who has doubts about having QC 4 or QC 4+ on Pocophone F1, Qualcomm has released the official devices and official chargers that has QC 4 and QC 4+ support on their website.

AND YES, Pocophone F1 supports QC 4 and QC 4+ charging support.

https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Malexirian:
And also the QC4 support was tweeted by an official guy from Xiaomi back in September.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Rakibboss:
Did you test by yourself with a quick charge 4.0/4.0+ charger? I have one but j think it's not working
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Darklouis:
Theoretically, it is around between 4000mA or 5000mA to achieve QC 4.0/4.0+

Use battery measuring apps (Ampere, Batterystats, etc.)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Rakibboss:
I tested with these apps. None of them exceeds 3000mA and the voltage also don't exceed over 5. That's why I am saying it's not working
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
The apps is not accurate,as its still showing 5v when Quick charging.

QC2 or 3 will definitely have higher voltage than 5v...

That's why i mentioned its not accurate...

Its just for reference only...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Rakibboss:
Ok.. But i can feel the difference right. I am not feeling any difference with qc4.0
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] parveshdhariwal:
Where you buy QC 4 charger please give me link for India I want buy this charger
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
The charging speed might increase upto around 10%.

I won't say its a big difference at speed but it does charge with a lower temperature.

Qc4 + pd 3.0 is the best combo for me...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] gmajnkek:
can you provide a link where you got your charger from?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
I've tested Baseus PD 3.0 + QC 4 Car Charger.

Its fast charging in both type c and usb slot...

I havent fully measure the charging speed but i can say its still below 18W charging power....

Maybe poco still cannot support 27W yet??
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] gmajnkek:
Ah i was thinking you have a wall charger ;)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
I did mentioned I tested tronsmart but is not working on poco.

BTW what's the different wall charger or car charger?

I converted it to be use in my office.

It was cheaper than qc4 wall charger out there..
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] gmajnkek:
Car charger runs on 12V, a normal wall charger (in EU) runs on 220V
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
Same here in Malaysia.

Just simply use an adaptor that can supply 12v - 24v example laptop charger.

I've done it and it's working.

Just waiting for the cigarette lighter adaptor to arrive to make it nicer.

BTW those charger I used to test be it qc3 or qc4 I'm still seeing max 13w and I don't remember seeing 16w or above.

Full charge from 3% to 100% is about 1hr 40min regardless of qc3 or qc4.

Charger tested:

Tronsmart wcp01 pd3.0+qc4 18w

Samsung s8 qc2

Baseus pd3.0+qc4 30w

All using cable that is capable over 18w or 60w.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] LQDForce:
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B06ZZQQDPQ/

https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B06ZYWF4T1/

just a heads up though, i had to return one unit of the wall charger, as it had an annoying coil-whine.

btw wall charger used to cost less than $20 though. still worth it at 25 EUR , but if you're not in a rush - just wait for the price to drop and set a notification alert on keepa / camelcamelcamel
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
I recommend Baseus 30w car charger, cheap and with type c and USB port too..
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] LQDForce:
this is a bad quality charger that is also not even Qualcomm certified.

it supports maximum 20W over USB-C (QC4+ is 27W), and if you connect a second device to the USB-A , the combined output is only 25W !

please look here and purchase only certified Qualcomm chargers.

https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
I'm not sure how you get those reading.

Did you measure it?

BTW this is the advertised spec.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] LQDForce:
read product description, they clearly state max 20W for the usb-c "QC4" output.

also they claim in the spec you provided - max 5V5A power for BOTH usb used together . that is 25W (P = A x V)

but all of this doesn't matter, since this is a fake QC charger that isn't Qualcomm certified and does not use Qualcomm's proprietary chip.

if you want proof that QC4+ is not working, disable thermal config on your poco (all of them), then charge device while monitoring battery temperature. you will see it rise to 42-46C (QC4+ is 32C-40C and only reaches 40 if you use the device while charging.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
Can you point it out? As I saw the description picture showing usb A max 20w.

But I've never get pass 13w using any certificate qc3 charger also.

Not sure why, im using open beta +certified qc3+18w cable.

And even certified qc4 charger from Aukey are not able to fast charge on poco,the Aukey person told. Weird
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] LQDForce:
that's because battery temperature reaches 40C and thermal profile effectively disables fast charging.

the different between QC3/QC4 vs QC4+ was never about charging speed, it is the adaptive charge controller - temperature and heat generation that was vastly improved.

you can use a QC4+ charger, and if speed is still too slow for you - either charge with the device powered off, or disable thermal profile and risk permanent damage to your device if it overheats.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] flipx:
Hey I recommend to use oppo vooc charger for our poco I'm using mine and it charges fast like rabbit bangin
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
How fast isit?

Can you test and measure the voltage and amperage?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Emeraldu:
Need to buy a good QC 4 cable

Hello.

I've just bought a QC 4+ charger, model HAMA wall charger (00178273).

It looks to be approved by Qualcomm (it's on the list). But it came without a USB-C cable and since it needs USB Type C connectors on both sides, which cable/brand do I need to buy ?

There are many online but not all will work with a QC 4+ wall charger.

Can someone point me into the right direction ? (maybe someone that has tested the HAMA wall charger (00178273) model)

Attaching photos with the charger and Qualcomm approved device list. Thank you
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] LQDForce:
buy an Anker USB-C cable, 0.5m or 1m long. the longer cables don't charge as fast.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] JohnTheFarm3r:
Depends on the cable quality.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Emeraldu:
I've bought a Baseus 1m cable. Rated for 3A 60W

The quick charge icon isn't there anymore (first time testing the new Hama QC 4+ adapter) when switching from the original poco f1 adapter.

Still need to check the amps when charging...but qc sign missing can't be good
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
I have the same cable and it's working with baseus qc4 car charger.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Emeraldu:
Does the QC logo shows when it's charging ?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] ronald_loulan:
Yes, it does.

Some people mentioned some charger won't show QC logo/charging fast but it's still charging fast.

But I didnt encounter that.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Sushi3110:
I have a 27W charger from "Aukey" (Model PA-Y8) which supports 5V/3A and 9V/3A and the Phone shows 5V/3A while loading. But is it healthy? Can the Poco handle it without being damaged or the battery degraded faster? Just want to make sure before I use that regularly . :D
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] LQDForce:
poco does not support USB-PD . so you're only getting 5V charging, effectively 12W (you can test with a multimeter if you know what you're doing).

It is perfectly safe, but not recommended. get a QC4+ charger, not because of charging power - but because of much better temperature regulation.

qc4+ charger measured 28°C when phone idle (screen off), up to 40°C when using the device while charging.

regular usb chargers will reach 42°C and throttle the device even when screen is off and device is idle, effectively lowering charging power to a measly 7.5W.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Darklouis:
If you're talking about the QC3. Then It has only max 18Watts (Stock Poco Charger).

Tried to charge my phone around 30°c maintaining around 15Watts then when reached to a point around 40°C-45°C it decreases its efficiency to 12Watts so temperature is a big difference.

A user on a MIUI Forum tested QC4+ chargers and concluded that

I may conclude it as well. It may be the device, Poco, it can be charged using USB-PD but not up to the point where in you cannot charge it up to 30Watts (Recorded limit on Pocophone was up to 27Watts max) just you can't suck the 80Watts USB-PD charger into a phone, it might just explode before as you know it, as said, USB-Power Delivery is mostly used in Laptops (Razer Blade for example) some devices on IPhones and other stuff. Xiaomi released Poco without any full device specifications like does it support USB-PD? They only mentioned in their Twitter account that it does support QC4 and QC4+ and Pocophone was listed as QC4+ Supported device on the official list of QC4 on Qualcomm.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Emeraldu:
After updating to MIUI 10.3 by xiaomi.eu ver. 93.2.8 beta, I'm getting the QC logo when charging my phone with the Hama QC 4+ charger. (No QC logo with an older firmware version when charging with the Hama charger)

Charging speeds seem to be about the same, maybe the Hama QC 4+ is a bit faster than the stock poco charger. Needs more testing.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] rickyroma:
I get the same QC logo when charging in my car with nektek USB IF PD charger (not QC3 or 4) Not sure what this means.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] maxlieb:
I got the razer phone charger and this usb c cable

no qc logo on phone, charging speeds about the same as stock charger, up to 2800 ma in accubattery

waiting on another cable I ordered but I don't think it will make a difference... save your money guys.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] Emeraldu:
[MENTION=4261183]maxlieb[/MENTION]

Use MIUI beta 9.4.18 and QC 4+ will work (including the QC sign when charging)

Get the latest beta from xiaomi_eu