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[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] pfavayi:
I said think about it - now let's think about it together.

You are flashing a vendor framework. A vendor framework is between the hardware (the phone) and the OS (android). The OS talks communicates with the hardware through the framework.

When you install a new framework it is likely not to communicate well with the OS because the OS was flashed on the basis of the the old framework.

So , it makes sense to make a CLEAN install of the OS so that its communication with the new framework is established from ground level.

The data partition ( /data) has applications that you download from google play . These communicate with the OS , which then communicates with the framework.

And since you are flashing the same OS , that communication ,application/OS has not changed so no need to wipe data.

But to make sure there is a clean OS communicating with the framework , you have to wipe system (this is where the OS is flashed) before flashing the fresh OS so that it is flashed on a clean plate, and of course cache and dalvik cache after install. (I am assuming you know why we always flash cache and dalvic cache after a flash)

And my answer to the guy asking was - wipe everything except data (assuming he can't be ignorant enough or stupid enough to wipe his own micro SD card )

And as I said before its advisable to google and read first before you start hacking your phone. You can then ask others if something doesn't go right, but don't go hack your phone based on the questions and answers you get in forums .
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] slatera18:
Sure it's true. But don't you think that we are dirty flashing the vendor rather than clean flashing it, so it's more like an upgrade keeping everything in place just upgrading the necessary files. And it being a separate partition won't cause much issue.

But you said about re-flashing the OS after flashing the Vendor cause the vendor on which the OS was installed is old, I would say it will still work, if you flash the new vendor after it. I did it myself on someone's suggestion to try it and it's working flawlessly. I didn't face any problems though after doing it. But if you are doing it from a month old to a new month vendor (i.e from 8.12.20 to 9.1.24)then probably you are gonna face errors.

Clean install is always recommended as it rules out any kind of errors which might pop up cause of dirty flashing or some residual settings or mods.

Wiping partitions is something to be not taken lightly, people should do some research before performing it themselves on there devices.

Yeah am aware why we wipe cache and Dalvik cache after a clean install.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] RangerSpartan:
Ik that this question is stupid to ask for a custom rom but...will the performance of the game could be improved in the future updates?...cuz playing pubg is making the phone throttle a lot and even causing frame drops...not only pubg but few other games even
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] abeloman:
For upgrading vendor, just disable all magisk modules and that's all, no need to wipe anything. And flash DFE if you don't wanna get encrypted
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Kenkanekiei:
Our Dev said that he is going to implement thermal mods in the next update :) so we can have better performance for gaming. Stay tuned.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Shawck:
I did it, but the problem is still here. Could there be any other solutions?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] pfavayi:
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"But don't you think that we are dirty flashing the vendor rather than clean flashing it"

Think about where the vendor is going during flash (vendor partition) - clean or dirty flash is meaningless....

"so it's more like an upgrade keeping everything in place just upgrading the necessary files."

I understand your train of logic , especially after I explained things above ...

But the vendor partition is never wiped or formated, at least at twrp userlevel. You just flash on top of whatever is there.

"But you said about re-flashing the OS after flashing the Vendor cause the vendor on which the OS was installed is old, I would say it will still work, if you flash the new vendor after it. "

New/fresh OS with the new vendor is what I said ( you missed that part!!!)- so figure out what is flashed first !!!

"Clean install is always recommended as it rules out any kind of errors which might pop up cause of dirty flashing or some residual settings or mods. "

True but not applicable to vendor

"Wiping partitions is something to be not taken lightly, people should do some research before performing it themselves on there devices."

Actually wiping partitions is the recommended when flashing!!!! . That is what we mean by a clean flash !!!!

A clean flash / wiping partitions gives you 0 problems!!!

I am assuming you or whoever is flashing has read some basic concepts about twrp and the partitions and what to wipe.

"Yeah am aware why we wipe cache and Dalvik cache after a clean install."

Good for you !!!!!

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This is not enough information .

You must say in detail what you did and how you did it , so we can recreate the issue, because YOU must be doing something wrong - and that is a FACT.

But as long as you are too lazy to give that detailed report so WE can help solve YOUR problem, YOU and only YOU will remain with the problem.

We will ignore and forget your problem eventually, but your problem will not forget you.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] slatera18:
Dude you seem a bit agitated, if you feel like the people keep asking the same question which have been solved before, either just point to that post or don't answer at all.

"New/fresh OS with the new vendor is what I said ( you missed that part!!!)- so figure out what is flashed first !!!"

You understood it wrong, I meant if a person was on a previous vendor with ROM flashed after it and then if they tried to flash a new vendor it might still work.

"Actually wiping partitions is the recommended when flashing!!!! . That is what we mean by a clean flash !!!!

A clean flash / wiping partitions gives you 0 problems!!!

I am assuming you or whoever is flashing has read some basic concepts about twrp and the partitions and what to wipe."

I mostly said the same thing.

"Good for you !!!!!"

Thanks?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Nemuritor01:
We did it guys... Ported DTSx.

I used this Rom for most of my testings and deving.

Just Bluetooth isn't working. You are all welcome to test.

https://xdaforums.com/android/software/port-dtsx-ultra-dts-headphonex-t3896233
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Shzamm:
There's no option for face unlock? Is there something wrong. Since I already had install the latest build. Can you help me. Anyone seeing this. I really hope it wont be ignored.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Riegusto:
Go to smart lock in security options...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] klamper:
Thanks for the reply, another question

I'm using magisk and Franco's kernel, so after I flash the Rom, does magisk auto flash ?

Or I need to manually flash magisk and kernel as the boot.img will be replaced in the new update.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] oiseau1201:
I have a problem using Multiboot with pe. I want to try it first as secondary rom before I switch complete to a not MIUI base rom.

I have installed beta MIUI as primary rom with magisk. Then I installed PE as secondary and it only show the "G" bootscreen. I waited about 20 minutes but it won't start. Then I restored a MIUI beta backup as secondary rom. Wiped there data and cache after this flashed PE but also it hangs in the bootscreen.

Is it possible to install it as secondary?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Shawck:
I did everything by following the steps from this https://youtu.be/3etw2hP1jbI video. How detailed do u want the explanation to be, tell me what u need and I'll try to get it. I'm sorry if I'm not that educated in these kinds of things.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] gonzo99:
I have PE installed as a secondary ROM, so it is possible, but I have HavocOS as the primary ROM, so that may have an impact. I've also had problems where the firmware doesn't match between primary and secondary ROMS so that may be part of the problem.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] SuperDroidMe:
So I changed wallpaper to the Earth "Marvelous Marble" and I discovered the System UI is pretty much in dark mode.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] miraclemanoj:
do i need to flash vendor and firmware before flashing?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] bertsmelik:
I am using this rom en kept encryption al the way.

While dirty flashing the rom, auto flash Magisk would show after the flashing.

In my case no sign of auto flash magisk, so I always reflash magisk after flashing the rom.

Then wipe cache/dalvik. No problems, only the Android Auto problem is still there.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Rapante:
Btw to all that complained about battery life, I cannot reproduce your findings. My phone runs with vendor 9.1.24, the latest PE and the default Derp Kernel. With moderate chrome, facebook, messenger, whatsapp and imgur usage I got this so far.

[IMG="battery life"]https://i.imgur.com/T8ELwB8.png[/IMG]
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] mgs1994:
Hey I m not able to get past the boot logo can anyone help on latest vendor

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Hey I m not able to get past the boot logo can anyone help on latest vendor

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Hey I m not able to get past the boot logo can anyone help on latest vendor
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] oiseau1201:
That's what I have too. But with Multiboot.

I was able to boot it with an MIUI beta as base backup and not wipe data etc. But then I get FC from all apps of cause.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] mgs1994:
M not able get past the logo .. is there anything we need to flash or so .. immediate help is needed
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ttreddy2210:
I think portrait mode isn't working in Jan 22nd build
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] mgs1994:
Not able to go past boot logo can please tell how to get it booted ??
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ttreddy2210:
Is this best or worst with extremeV8 60 Hz
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] krilok:
https://xdaforums.com/poco-f1/how-to/android-auto-issues-poco-f1-custom-roms-t3893305/page4
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] parveshdhariwal:
Google camera show update error everytime and a latest update of Google camera is present on playstore in pe rom
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] pfavayi:
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"..if you feel like the people keep asking the same question which have been solved before"

I never respond to a question that has been asked and answered before... No need to. It's a waste of time ..

I was correcting the missinformation that you were a victim of. Check my post , I quote your missinformation and provide correction below.

"You understood it wrong, I meant if a person was on a previous vendor with ROM flashed after...."

If you didn't say it then , then you didn't mean it !!!

We only mean what we say.

If we meant what we don't say, then I could mean I am an alien from outer space by talking to you right now.

"I mostly said the same thing."

No you didn't ... And that's why I wrote all that stuff.

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No one knows everything (me and you included) and sometimes, unintentionally ,we miss a point and unintentionally misinform others. This was the case here. I happened to have read those facts and I was correcting the misinformation.

And that's why I always say , before you start hacking your phone , before you start rooting - read about it first,. Read so you know and understand what you are doing , instead of just doing copy/paste.

Asking on the forum should be done only after you have read otherwise a missinformed member might give you wrong advice which can break your phone.

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The developer has mentioned a few ROMs he says are compatible with MultiRom - and mong them are PE, lineage OS , Nitrogen OS . These are supposed to work. Any other roms might create problems.

Personally I have PE as my primary ROM and my secondaries are lineage OS and nitrogen OS.

I have been able to flash a number of other ROMs as secondaries, but I've had issues with flashing opengapps and magisk in the new ROMs.

I believe you will have issues with MIUI because it's a vastly different stockroom.

As far as MIUI is concerned I believe you should delete everything and start from fresh.

I think you should try and use only known compatible ROMs as primaries

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Just do it , check root and tell us what happened ...

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Try flashing the ROM before the firmware and see what happens ( you will not brick your phone)

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Look at the beginning of the lineage OS forum.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] oiseau1201:
Hmm could be because of miui. But I thought in the Multiboot thread is written that miui is supported.

I get if booted one time so I have to look again and try and error a little too get it working ?

It's really simple to start again if something goes wrong. But time is the only thing that it costs.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Shzamm:
Thanks mate, another question. Do you have a way to reduce the strength vibration for the navigation button. and is it only me but the nav bar is pretty laggy plus random pull from notification bar?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ttreddy2210:
How to update PE without any problem
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Rapante:
That question is so generic that literally no-one can answer it knowing it is what you actually want to know. It would be nice to know what the specific problems are, that you are facing and how you went with installing it (if you did).

If you are just asking how to install PE or any ROM on the poco in general, that topic has been covered about 50 times in those 312 pages.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] GeeyahnOfficial:
Confused

Built in root or do I need to flash Magisk too?

Can I flash Franco Kernel?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ttreddy2210:
Sorry bro not like that when I update if the rom have encryption failed what to do not to get the this problem
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Rapante:
So just to be sure, when you boot your phone tells you "Encryption Unsuccessful" and you should do a factory reset to be able to use it again?

If not let us know exactly when this error appears, thanks!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ginoscicci:
hello....

aomeone knows if there's a way for:

1 enable double tap to turn off the screen or another system instead of pressing on/off button,

2 enable a swipe down on the screen to drag down the notification curtain,

3 eventually to remove the search bar in the low part of the screen,

4 enable System Ui tuner
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Mooatreides:
Lawnchair launcher does all that except #4
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ginoscicci:
Sorry, i forgot to tell that would stay on stock launcher...otherwise i should use Nova launcher
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] pfavayi:
Do you want me to sit through 10min of video so I can figure out what you did ?

How about WRITING something like.

Downloaded TWRP from <url>

fastboot devices

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

" I'm sorry if I'm not that educated in these kinds of things."

Too bad ...

Anyway , I hope you solve your problem

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First , you must update...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] falconhossam1:
is the echo voice fixed when flashing the .17 vendor
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Shawck:
Quick question before I proceed with writing down the steps. Does ghost touch affect just a certain area or it can appear anywhere on screen?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Its_Yatish:
Can we remove the clock from the status bar to make room for notifications?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] stealthj:
This last update... I think 0122...

No matter how many times I flash the vendor/firmware and no matter where I get it from, twrp still tells me error while updating, need to have version firmware 9.17 and above blah blah.... anyone run into this before?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Mooatreides:
Maybe u dint wipe everything? Do cache,system, dalvik, data and internal. Then do firmware then rom
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] stealthj:
Do you need to wipe everything with each update?

Or do I need to wipe everything with each vendor version update? I flashed vendor using fastboot
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Mooatreides:
Yes if your putting a new vendor you need to reflash rom totally.

For a regular update no, just dirty, unless it says otherwise.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] stealthj:
Oh okay thanks!

Maybe next time then, a lot of my stuff is not backed up!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] slatera18:
Was trying to help, apparently I was misinformed and you did correct me. True no one knows everything, me and you both are here to learn and help people along the way. Well you could be an alien talking to me, lol.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] shhiroro:
Does the calling issues fixed in today update??
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] aszu:
This is simply not true, please do not spread misinformation. No need to wipe after vendor update, these are just HAL translation libraries which are independent from your data partition.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Mooatreides:
So dirty flash a new vendor and rrturn to system.

I tot black screen after boot everytime
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] abeloman:
You must disable all magisk modules...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] piqbalmalik:
Where the update monday? :(
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Mohammed779:
Hey, no need to rush. I believe the dev lives in Brazil, so could be even Tuesday morning for you till you see the update :p
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] pfavayi:
What did a quick Google search reveal ?

Start by googling the definition of ghost touch.

And when you do the above, then you will see why it wasn't necessary to ask.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] piqbalmalik:
Hehe okaayyyy
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] pfavayi:
The gcam on Poco is a mod and the gcam on Google play is not.

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Somehow you are not succeeding in flashing the firmware...

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And when you flashed did you get any problems ?

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The guy was talking about REFLASHING the vendor, not WIPING - and he is correct and you are not.

Read his post again

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You need to reflash the ROM.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ginoscicci:
What calling issue do you refer to?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] shhiroro:
The one when i call someone through whatsapp and using earphone, the other person cannot hear me very well and echo sound. Already use the fix from someone but not working
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] aszu:
It works just fine for me, literally has just done it. New vendor, no wipe.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] vamshikailasa:
When will u bake u new built ... May I know the time ... U said that u will release on monday
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ketnn:
Timezone !

The developer is from Brazil and I think you are from India, so it will be around 5 PM (Feb-4-2019) in Brazil when it will be 12:30 midnight (Feb-5-2019) in India !
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] piqbalmalik:
In Indonesia? Feb build? Now 7:43PM in my country ? sorry bad english
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ajlucero:
You're awesome man! Waiting for the release :good: :victory:
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] PIPS:
Guys

In what order do you install the vendor and update file?

Is it right......

1. Vendor

2. Wipe davilk and cache

3. Update file

4. Wipe davilk and cache

5. Reboot

Please help.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] dalyer:
In my experience you can flash the vendor/firmware at any step.

Note that if you already have the required vendor/firmware then you don't need to flash it again.

What "update file" are you referring to here? The ROM zip itself?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Escudo:
Been running Pixel Experience on my Poco since last friday and must say that I am impressed! Feels way faster than MIUI.

Havent had any problem except for those in Android Auto;

- Screen flickering when I unplug phone from car. (got it working with the workaroud "there's a temporary workaround, which is to disable hardware overlays in developer settings")

- Waze / Maps won't show in night mode, even if the car is on nightmode (worked in MIUI)

Anyone else facing these issues?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] dalyer:
If you search the thread you will see that AA causes problems for several other people - and not just on this ROM.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Escudo:
I'm aware of the 'normal' issues in AA, the screen flickering is one of them. Wasn't sure about the day-/nightmode though, could not find it anywhere else...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] abeloman:
Nope, I've switched from older vendor to newer, no issues. Just disabling modules did the work
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] PIPS:
Yes the ROM Zip, I've always been told to update to the latest vendor.

Problem is the ROM creator doesn't tell us which vendor file to use with the newest ROM update.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] dlochab:
beryllium-9.1.24-9.0-vendor-firmware.zip

This one I think.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ExpertWarrior221:
if the developer releases a new update, can I update through system updates? or do I have to flash it?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] dalyer:
As above I presume that 9.1.24 (the latest available developer/beta MIUI) is probably the best to choose?

However somebody earlier mentioned using the earlier V10 version from a stable MIUI and claimed that it fixed some things that 9.1.24 does not.

Search back through the thread for that.

Edit - ignore the previous two sentences -that was in the NOS thread not here.

But once you have flashed the vendor/firmware you don't have to do it again until/unless you need to change to a different version.