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[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] PuffDaddy_d:
You're brought up two issues:

1. If you're wanting to know if you'll be happy using a Pixel after using Samsung for so long, the answer depends on how much you value all the extra software features that are built into Samsung devices. If you love them and use them all the time, the Pixel will disappoint because it is bare bones Android. If you don't care about those features and just want a simple UI with fast updates, then you'll love the Pixel.

2. If you're wanting to know if these early "issues" are deal breakers, then it really comes down to hardware vs software. If the issues you are concerned about are hardware related, then there's nothing that can be done and you would be better served by a different device. If the issues you are concerned about are software related, then buy the phone with confidence. You may never see these issues because they don't affect everyone, and if you do, they will likely be fixed in the updates that Google pushes every month. So you won't even have to wait long.

Either way, life is too short to regret a phone purchase.
[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] OkayGK:
Thank you both for your input. Make me feel better.

My biggest and I mean the biggest concern with any phone is phone lag.

Pixel fits my bill.

I love s8 s9, etc but I'm okay with not having the best display, curve screen, no notch. I'm even okay rocking p3Xl even when if baseless s10 with In display finger print and camera comes out. I'll be okay. Because smooth experience is above it all. Ofc I'm basing my desision on p3, with wireless charging, water proving etc.. Stuff which phone already has. Took Google apple a while but they got there.

It's hard to pay $1275 for a phone and hear speakers sound different, speakers make vibration, lines on display but could be replacement, worranty work etc.

More importantly is software.

Apps getting shut down, glitches, ram management fiasco.

I started to think, well if p3 xl shuts down all apps to save ram and I find a way around it to keep apps running in the background and that will cause the phone to glitch or think more than that really takes me away from smooth Android experience. Ofc apps automatically closing and me have to restart Netflix or YouTube isn't a smooth experience either.

I don't care bout battery life, or memory space. I also don't play games. I'm worried bout basic options of use now being compromised.

May be I'm paranoid...
[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] bartolo5:
P3 is killing apps because Google sloppy optimization /buggy software not because of lack of RAM. P1 and P2 don't have these issues and all have 4GB.

The strongest recommendation I can think of is wait until Google gets it together. Google has a dubtious track of fixing bugs even on Pixel.
[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] alkeshgamer:
Yea, even I'm having thoughts of regretting to pre-order Pixel 3 64GB Clearly White, haven't received it yet tho. Indian users will get it after Oct 31st(official release date).

My concerns are that will it be worth it to spend Rs. 66k (approx 900 USD) for a phone when I can get OnePlus 6T for around Rs. 38k-40k (approx 530 USD) with better specs like 8GB RAM and 3700 mAh battery. Though I really like the way Pixel looks and it's software is also great with AI. And the camera is the best part.

BTW I'm jumping from a 5yr old Moto G to this so any new phone would feel great to me. Currently I get the option to cancel my Pixel 3 order. So I'll wait and see the 6T, then decide to cancel the order or not.
[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] PuffDaddy_d:
This is the pixel 3 forum for the smaller version. If you want feedback about the 3XL, please check the 3XL forum.
[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] OkayGK:
I did not realize there were two separate forums for the phone.
[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] vinuneuro:
I canceled. It's still the phone I want, but approaching the end of 2018 this is not an $800 phone. It'll probably be priced correctly come Thanksgiving.
[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] -Michael_:
Been using mine since the 18th. I too, was a bit worried, however I've not experienced any of the issues.. I'm surprised really.

After using the P1 & P2, I know that they'll squash these issues in coming updates, by December's update all of these little bugs will probably be worked out. Just like with the P2.

I'm sticking with it. I love it. I didn't think it would be a big upgrade over the P2, but it really is IMO.
[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] OkayGK:
Great to hear. So far I haven't cancelled
[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] kevsteele:
Just another data point - I got the Pixel 3, came over from Samsung and LG phones (S7 and V30), and I'm happier with this phone than any phone I've previously owned (maybe a bit of hyperbole, but I am very impressed with the phone!). I haven't had any of the problems others have mentioned, and the UI and smoothness of operation are wonderful. I've only snapped a handful of photos so far, but the results are amazing to me. Battery life hasn't been as great as the V30, but it still gets me through a full day and evening, so I'm cool with that.

I was constantly frustrated with waiting for Samsung or LG to release updates, so I'm eager to see how rapidly Google iterates.

I definitely wouldn't cancel.
[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] gotcha640:
I've had mine for a week, been back and forth a dozen times a day, got an rma, packed it up, unpacked, packed, unpacked, used for the weekend. Right this minute I'm thinking it goes back tomorrow, but the camera is almost worth keeping it.

My biggest thought is that any camera would blow me away coming from a oneplus 3, and the camera on the 6t might be plenty good enough.

The $50 pre-order credit helps, and it sounds like the 6t won't have wireless charging. My op3 port is almost worn out, have to hold it just right, so I'm wary of another phone without wireless.

I have a camping trip with my daughter in a couple weeks, so if I return, I'm not getting anything new in time for that,with the back orders on the pixel and the shipping time on the 6t, unless tmo has them on the shelf within a week of launch.

So now I'm thinking I'll keep it.
[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] samnada:
Another positive review for the Pixel 3. Coming from the Samsung S7, the Pixel is a big step up. Really like the minimalist, elegant look, smaller bezels, lightning responsiveness, feel in the hand, unbloated Android, great camera, first in line for updates, and Project Fi. I've had a couple of quirks with some features, but none of the issues getting so much attention. Battery life has significantly improved over the last week (adaptive power management?), and is much better than the S7 even with AOD and bluetooth on all the time. Easily the best phone I've owned by a wide margin. Understand people have different priorities and usage patterns, but I'd advise not bailing without trying it.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] SysAdmNj:
What else are they removing? Sales?
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] bill3508:
That would be retarded so I hope not.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] codeglitch:
You get a bid amoled screen with AOD that works as a improved led. Something like that. Look at other phones with the same design and You Will see
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] galaxys:
Yep, AOD works for me. Have it on my Pixel...
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] H4X0R46:
A notification LED would be nice! I hope it has one. Never had a device with AOD but I'd prefer an LED myself.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] SysAdmNj:
No way aod is as bright and visible as led. I'm going to use their slogan on them and not buy this device.

"Never Settle"
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] codeglitch:
Well I guess you can't expect to call batman using your screen :D
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Macusercom:
AFAIK there were rumors that said the LED is the bottom like on the Nexus 5 back then. I can't seem to find the proximity or ambient light sensor on the images so it could be. On the other hand I would say they have removed it in favor of the smaller notch. If I need to upgrade from my OnePlus 5T I'll probably have to choose between the OnePlus 6 and 6T. So either bigger notch with LED and headphone jack or smaller notch without them. Makes me not wanna buy a new phone...
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] hallo dare:
Oneplus are making it very difficult to like this new phone.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] GuestK0062:
They could make small part/dot on top of the display, use few pixels to act as a LED when screen is off. It's OLED so it shouldn't be a problem.?
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] SysAdmNj:
So does it have led notifications?
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] :
No it doesn't.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] mhajii210:
Guys does it for sure have AOD or is it lift up display ambient display like the OnePlus 6? Anyone has a link that lists or confirms AOD? I watched a bunch of YouTube videos and no one talks about AOD which is VERY important if it doesn't have a notification LED.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] SysAdmNj:
I am definitely out then. One thing is the headphone jack being removed but the only other thing I liked about oneplus is led notifications.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] :
I agree, but it seems there is no LED notification AND no AOD...

You can see that on the XDA review: https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t-review/
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] izzyserious:
No LED, and no AOD. Stupid as hell. I've been so hype for this release, and now no headphone jack, no led, and no AOD to replace it? Wtf is that. Guess I'll never settle for a OP again, unfortunately.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Frankenscript:
There's got to be some way to have the thing make some sort of blinking notification in the absence of the LED.

I'm fairly primed to buy one of these (coming from a 3T, to be used on ATT in the USA). Lack of LED is a big hit though. I gloat to my iPhone friends how I know which email account just had a new message via the LED being a specific color (I use Light Flow).
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] mzsquared:
All official specs here:

https://www.oneplus.com/6t/specs
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] mhajii210:
I was SERIOUSLY considering switching from my 6 to the 6T, but no notification LED and no AOD is a no go for me! How are you supposed to tell you have a notification if your phone is sitting on a table?
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
Yep. I don't want to root this phone and if it doesn't at LEAST include Always On Display, then it's a no go.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] wahdoy:
That's why I'm planning to get rid of my Iphone X and going back to an Android phone capable of LED notifications . I really missed the LED notifications.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] non1oson:
true, how lol?
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] izzyserious:
I guess we're expected to reach over and pick up the phone to trigger lift up display every time we wanna check and see if there's a notification or not. Which seems not cool lol
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Puddies:
A german review says, that there is a notification LED in the small notch.

But I am not sure, if this is really correct...

Translated:

Source: https://www.androidpit.de/oneplus-6t-test
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] owilsky:
Well, I usually root my devices. So do I have a solution for this problem with root?
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] cultofluna:
You can enable AOD with root
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] KOLIOSIS:
One of the stateside members here have the device already & have confirmed the LED Notification light is MIA,nowhere to be found :

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/t-mobile-reportedly-sell-oneplus-6t-t3830775

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=78013248&postcount=96

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=78014249&postcount=101
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Puddies:
Sorry for my english, but what is MIA?
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] KOLIOSIS:
Missing In Action:

The LED Notification light is not on this phone.

The person in the link I provided double-checked by looking at the area where it would be (near the front-facing camera) & checked the phone's settings for LED Notifications.

Definitely form over function here,I don't see things getting any better w/OnePlus,it's a shame..............................
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] codeglitch:
I think oneplus should implement something like this: https://themrphone.com/article/oneplus-6t-no-notification-led-workaround
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] SuperMario=ITA=:
I used NoLed with the samsung S2. I'm not going back to 2012. Srsly
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] bl3d2death:
But OnePlus have to release an update to fix this missing LED problem. Otherwise many people wont buy it for sure.

I dont get it, why a smaller notch should be more important than LED.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] ram4ufriends:
Because bigger notch is more annoyance than missing LED for many people... Look at reviews... Almost no one mentioned about missing LED
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] bl3d2death:
Because noone used it for more as a review. I think in the later reviews they will talk about it.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] codeglitch:
well let's be honest, no one mentioned led on the reviews because everyone is always looking at their screens......
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] marcmarshall:
Not everything was bad in 2012. How did it work for you? I want the phone but I also want notifications.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
Yea so, no AOD stock and no notification light, removal of the headphone jack, a fingerprint reader I don't use...how is this better than the 5t again? I really wanted to like this but really, all of the functionality is being removed in favor of trying to have no bezels. It's all so freakin stupid.

So if you upgrade from the 5t or 6 to the 6t, what do you get? A bigger battery. Anddddd...what else? No telephoto lens, no wide angle. When I got my first OP phone, the 5, I thought I found the perfect company to stick with that supports the dev community and keeps things functional, but that may no longer be the case. I am mighty annoyed.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] marcmarshall:
Well I just lost my phone and need to replace it ASAP. I will miss the wide angle lens on my LG. I will miss a visual notification. I really miss a replaceable battery but nobody offers that anymore. For the price this seems like my best buy.

What would you suggest instead? I want long battery life. I install over 100 apps so I feel better with at least 6gig of ram. I would love a great camera. I considered the Huwei Pro 20 but it seems that there are software and customer support issues. The Samsung and Pixel 3 seem like my next best buy.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
If you don't care about root or unlocking your bootloader I would say Samsung is the way to go, especially now after the S9 has been out for a while, there a ton of good deals on that. That is if you don't mind their UI. There are lots of ways to customize it now though, they progressed a little with that. The notch on the pixel scares the crap out of me honestly, but if that doesn't bug you and you're ok with the price, I'm sure it would be a good bet. I'm using the Code Phoenix ROM on my 5t and pure android is really the best, I love it. Personally I think I'm sticking with the 5t. Cameras aren't the best but everything else is great.

I'm sure the 6t is a great phone but it seems to me like they took away more things than they added. And that is just a really strange thing to realize.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] marcmarshall:
If I were you I would probably stick with plus 5 for awhile longer.

I will take another look at the S9. I've gotten lazy about flashing ROMS. I just installed a 3rd party launcher on my LG. I will miss the wide angle lens. I considered the Huwei Pro20 but I read bad things about software and customer support. I will really miss a replaceable battery but no one offers that anymore. I have never used a phone without carrying a spare battery. I want to be able to use my phone all day and know I can still call an Uber at 2 AM. The S9 is not supposed to be great in that regard. I install over 100 apps so I am a bit concerned with only 4 gig of ram but I honestly do not if 6 Gb is overkill or not on android phone.

Thanks for the advice!
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Dungeon47:
I never realized LED was so important to people. I usually disable it so it doesn't blind me while watching Netflix in bed with the charger plugged in on my old phones. Why is it such a big loss?
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
Blind you? The ones on the OP phones are barely visible compared to other brands...but ok. It's not a camera flash, it's a 2mm wide tiny dot.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Dungeon47:
I was referring to the one on my Nexus 6, which is very bright in a dark room.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Shrek77:
I submitted a call to OnePlus this morning with an idea. I proposed they make an on screen LED notification like the NoLed app but use a very small amount of pixels and in a round shape to act as a led light. I suggested that it could be fully customizable like a standard led on previous devices except you could move it wherever you wanted and adjust the brightness. For instance right side of the teardrop notch instead of left corner. The screen brightness could make those group of pixels plenty bright. They forwarded me an email to reply to and thanked me for the idea and told me they were forwarding it to there concerned team for consideration. I have a 5T and really like phone but definitely would miss an led notification. The NoLed app would sorta fill the void but not quite as well as it could be with a OnePlus OS fix.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] GloomySVT:
I heard it does have a notification LED.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] KOLIOSIS:
It does not exist, look for yourself & compare to the specs for the OnePlus 6:

https://www.oneplus.com/6t/specs

https://www.oneplus.com/6/specs
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Jayanyway:
I used the phone and it does not have an LED notification
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Cst79:
Removing the notification LED from the 6T puts the OnePlus in the "useless" and "time-wasting" category, like any iPhone. This decision will turn against OnePlus very soon as far as sales go. My OP6 will be the last OnePlus I own until a LED notification is offered. Wasting time to periodically check for notifications is not what I'm planning as I have more important things to do. "Ambient Display" is as useless as ever since it requires doing something with the phone.

So basically I really hope the Galaxy S10 keeps the notification LED, or at least it will have a very efficient always-on display (I do prefer the RGB LED though, much more visible from a distance and it does not eat battery at all).
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Cst79:
You fell into the trap that most people do regarding OLED: you think that only non-black pixels actually draw power.

In reality, in order to light up only one pixel on screen, the display driver circuit needs to be powered up, and also a portion of the GPU, things that stay off when the screen is off. So even when only one pixel is lit up, the power draw is very significant compared to when the screen is black. This is actually the reason why not many manufacturers have an always-on display feature, and resort to useless "ambient display" tricks which require you to do something with the phone in order to activate it, and this is the reason why OnePlus 6T will never have a proper always-on notification feature. This is also the reason why the NoLED app is very inefficient. Samsung and LG are among the very few who have dedicated display driver circuits to handle always-on display efficiently.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] spg900ny:
Well, the Nexus 6 doesn't technically have an LED. At least, it wasn't supposed to. You have to enable it manually, right?

So maybe that's the issue - it was never "tuned" to be an alert notification.

The LED on my Note5 is very unobtrusive. You can see it, but it doesn't "shine" at night in a dark room.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Shrek77:
Well they could at least add breathing notifications in the os which wouldn't drain too much battery. Better option than nothing and you could tell if you have a message or something without having to tap or pick up the phone.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] vekenti:
I think that lighting up the pixels around the notch to make a sort of "glowing" notch notification light would be sweet. I like the notification light but I never really pay attention to it. I set colors for different notifications and then I forget which colors I set for which apps, and I end up waking up my phone anyways.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] wangdak:
Is it a fake?:laugh:
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] ewingr:
I've been considering what to go to from my Mate 9 (which is a great phone by the way).

I guess the 6T won't be it w/o led.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] galaxys:
Yeah, I've switched gears to the Note 9 exynos because of lcd & other 6t mia....
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Frankenscript:
[MENTION=7100563]cultofluna[/MENTION], was that a real picture of an LED on a 6T? If so, if you could describe how you activated it and what its apparent capabilities are, we'd be quite grateful.

I can't see buying the phone without some notification ability, be it an LED, or an app that powers the screen periodically (say, every 5 secs, for one second) to display configurable notifications. I am often in meetings with phone silent/no vibrate and need to be able to visually glance down at it and get a feel for what notifications are waiting for me. I use Light Flow now, and the LED flashes different colors for each of my three email accounts, different color for texts, voice mails, etc...
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Poloasis:
I guess the 6t does not have a LED notification.

https://www.valuewalk.com/2018/10/oneplus-6t-issues-disappointments/
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Duyo:
I don't know. What about this? I really hope it does.

https://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-6t-vs-oneplus-6
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] KOLIOSIS:
IDK what more people want,there is no LED Notifications on the OnePlus 6T.

We've had people here who already have the phone state as much & if that isn't enough,look at OnePlus for yourself.

Not to single you out,but,this dead horse has been beaten into oblivion.

If you want more clarification,look on OnePlus' forums,I'm sure there's a company rep who'll (begrudgingly) state as much.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] cultofluna:
Its not my OP6T

I've attached a screenshot from this video on YT

Its not a LED but i wish it was:laugh:

Jump to 4.38 min

[youtube]nSPD3eqKtDQ[/youtube]

P.S Don't worry ... OnePlus wil push AOD with a future software update
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Bäcker:
that is probably the proximity sensor
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] CB620:
There is no led notification on this phone. It was removed.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] Taebom:
Since having the phone for 24 hours I can say I miss the LED notification for charging my phone and knowing when it's fully charged. As of right now there is no way to tell if your phone is at 100 percent which is kind of concerning for battery health in the long run.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] non1oson:
that's very cool, I wonder if anyone has tested it and YouTube it showing how effective it is?
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
So let me ask a stupid question: If there's no light, and no always on display, how do you tell if you have a notification from across the room? I'm being serious. Do you have to walk over, "lift to wake" and see that way? Do you need to double tap the screen or press the power button. No information is available without touching the phone basically. Seems like we are going backwards here. Very confusing.