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[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] sunNsnow:
I noticed the RAM problem while using Amazon Music and Zombie's Run! The music would stop during the first song while the Run app still runs. It really sucks to have to stop my workout to make the music start. My 2XL never had this issue.

I'm on the fence. For this amount of money, I should be happy with it, not annoyed.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bartolo5:
It's tragic Pixel 3/3 XL has this issue out of the gate. It's something you'd expect from a $100 throw away phone.. not Google flagship supposedly optimized to death for the android experience :eek:
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] jrac86:
I did set the apps I that were having issues with closing to "not optimized" for battery and didn't have the issue this afternoon. That may be a temporary fix until Google hopefully patches the issue.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] sunNsnow:
In theory, great idea (and it is a decent one to get things working). Unfortunately, my 3XL has 15% worse battery life than the 2XL, so I'm already unhappy with the phone. It's got several days with me before I return it. Good thing I didn't wipe my 2XL.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] wtharp2:
There seem to be SERIOUS RAM handling issues with this device. Is it possible I got a new unit with hardware issues? I suppose... But I doubt it. The sad thing is that I don't believe I'm using near the 4 Gigs we have. The memory manager is just overly aggressive. But it makes the user experience almost untenable. As a side note, I have turned adaptive battery off, and I have flagged multiple programs -- that are still getting aggressively closed -- off. Very frustrated.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] wtharp2:
I did a support chat, through help on my phone. One of the things they had me do was go into safe mode and check this behavior against the built in apps... They seem immune. Can anyone else take a look, and see if you have similar results, please?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] blcklab:
I was only able to recreate the issue with camera and pandora once yesterday. Unable to again today. I think I saw I got a camera update this morning. I wonder if that was part of it. Or if it's just my general RAM management can vary from day to day and minute to minute
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bartolo5:
It affects all Pixel 3s. We just have to wait for Google to release a fix.. if they ever do.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] MArtyChubbs:
I understand that a modified kernel like flash ex and so on might help us with the RAM management issues if Google doesn't
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] wtharp2:
It is sufficiently bad for my use case I may have to return it. This is especially bad because my wife has my old phone, and my daughter has her old phone...

When they've had issues like this in the past, how long has it taken Google to fix them?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Dirk:
Google are walking a tightrope on Battery life. At one end of the scale there's letting Apps do whatever they want to function properly vs killing them dead the second they move from foreground to background. It's more than just the amount of RAM available.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] wtharp2:
Then they should not have hamstrung themselves by reducing battery size and staying at 4 Gigs of RAM. And you can't tell me that their margins, at $1k for the phone, are insufficiently thick to add one or both of those items and still make a profit.

That said, I heard back from Google support, and they want me to factory reset my phone. It's like they have blinders to MULTIPLE people reporting a problem.

Ugh,
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] sn0warmy:
This is pretty darn common in my experience with Google. They just pretend it's not a widespread issue, when it very clearly is. Their lawyers probably tell them to admit nothing and play dumb.

And I agree that there simply is no excuse for not including 6GB RAM at the price point. It's pretty ridiculous. I know they will likely fix these memory issues with software, but they still would have made excellent profits from good margins with 6GB at the price point. This was the sole reason I initially decided to skip the 3 XL, coming from a OnePlus 6 with 8GB RAM (overkill). But in the end I really missed the overall "Google" experience/feel of the Pixel phones.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bartolo5:
Anywhere between 1 month and never.

I'm assuming this will get fixed on November update but don't hold your breath.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] draiken78:
My assumption is if they fix it, it will be during a non-security Android OS update,like Pie 9.1 or something.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] MArtyChubbs:
4gb of RAM hasn't been an issue for me coming from OG PXL and P2XL and this phone should have the best battery life yet. So, aggressive RAM management can tuned via the kernel or software update, I would hold on to see they do in the Nov update. New phones are buggy for a bit but Google does fix stuff.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Gerjannn:
I disabled Adaptive battery on my Pixel 2XL and I immediately notice the difference (without rebooting). Spotify just always closed when I had 3/4 apps open, and now it keeps 7+ apps open (including Spotify). So the easiest fix is disabling the Adaptive battery, hoping it doesn't cost you too much battery.

Thanks for the tips guys!

EDIT: nope, it only worked for a few minutes. Looks to be something deeper unfortunately :(
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] wtharp2:
Actually, turning off adaptive battery seems to have fixed the issue for me. Admittedly, the RAM manager is still far more aggressive than I desire, but the majority of my programs now still stay loaded.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] westside80:
Turning off Adaptive Battery will also help with battery life a little bit. Go figure. RAM management is still too aggressive though.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] masri1987:
how is turning adaptive battery off helping with battery life? This part is confusing me a bit....

from my understanding adaptive battery is the new doze mode.. is it not?

We really need some clarification on all of this stuff

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You guys might be onto something with the disabling of adaptive battery. will report back on battery and app performance at end of day

This is seriously a curious case.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] blcklab:
Yeah looking to hear more on this because I'm very happy with battery life.

For the moment I'm only having problems with Pandora. Closes the app after just a few minutes of non-use
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bbb90104:
For those with multi-tasking problems, can you double check the "Background Restriction" setting for the app? (found under the app's settings ->Advanced->Battery).

On my OG Pixel, I had to toggle this setting (i.e. Allow apps to run in the background) for certain apps like Music, Podcast Addict, etc to ensure that it doesn't force close the app when I shut the screen off, or switch tasks. I haven't received my Pixel 3XL yet (hopefully soon), but I'm guessing that this might be the issue.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] MArtyChubbs:
Apps like iheart or Google music were closing on me only when I was wearing the included headphones
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] masri1987:
With adaptive battery off.

Definitely got more use out of it.

Statistics include 1hr+ phone call (take that into account when looking at awake(screen off) statistic) , and 1 hr 30 minute of video chat via WhatsApp.

Spotify for 46 minutes while at the gym via bluetooth streaming.

Tons of facebook snapchat etc.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] westside80:
I have no clue why it works but it does for me. I restrict the apps I don't want to run in the background all the time myself but I leave Adaptive Battery turned off. My battery life has been better for the past 4 days.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] flound1129:
I did a support chat about this issue. I was told to restart my phone in safe mode and wait 24 hours to see if the issue recurs.

Problem is, in safe mode all of the apps I use are disabled.

When did Google only start supporting apps that run in safe mode?

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The reason turning adaptive battery off helps is that the LMKD (Low Memory Killer Daemon?), or whatever is called, is killing off apps that are being actively used.

Then, when the user switches back to the app that's been killed, the ENTIRE APP, plus all of the state from the user's previous session, has to be loaded back into memory. This not only uses more battery, but maxes out I/O throughput to the swap partition which causes the freeze.

This uses WAY more battery than simply keeping the required info in memory. Especially if you're routinely switching between multiple apps or using apps with overlay (i.e. FB Messenger)

Admitting that their 'awesome AI battery saver mode' is not only crap, but actually *increases battery utilization* for some users would be terrible PR for google, which is likely why they've been almost silent on this issue. They also don't want to let on that the fix is just a simple tweak, (which it is), but rather give the impression that it's some more complicated issue.

I've got my phone mostly responsive now by turning off battery optimization for ALL apps I normally use (whether in foreground or background.)

Background apps waking up are what seem to cause the insane lag, receiving a message in FB Messenger was enough to trigger a 5-10 second hang for me before I changed the battery settings. Getting a discord notification would trigger a 2-3 second hang.
[Amazfit] hotphil:
Love my Amazfit.

One thing that's been bugging me though. All notifications work for all apps except SMS (using the Android default SMS app, not some 3rd party one). Anyone else have this issue? I've reviewed the SMS app settings a dozen times and they're all correct.
[Amazfit] Elnel1:
I'm having the same problem. I've gone back and forth with customer service and haven't gotten anywhere. Did you ever find a solution?
[Amazfit] 1immortal:
using a different sms app for now
[Moto G5S  Questions & Answers] marcosdeepweb:
Anyone with this problem in fastboot?
[Moto G5S  Questions & Answers] lohanbarth:
check your unlock code
[Moto G5S  Questions & Answers] RICHIE@FLICKER:
yaa im facing this issue but i have one idea can you send me the fastboot getvar all
[BLISS ROMS Development] electrikjesus:
The Instructions

We have moved the instructions to be a part of our docs site

For the main instructions to get going with Bliss OS, you can check out our Installation Guide

If you get into a bind with your install, you should see our Troubleshooting section

For the few addons and other info we have for Bliss OS installs, you can check out our Extras section

And if you're ready to start building and testing new things, you can check out the Bliss OS Build Guide.

Thanks, and keep scrolling for FAQ & Updates
[BLISS ROMS Development] electrikjesus:
Contributing to the project

Bliss OS is in need of contributors. People to help squash some bugs, forward port features and support, and others to help with answering the common questions here in the XDA threads, or on our Telegram chat.

Pull requests are going to be spread out a little. All the commits for the build script will go through http://review.blissroms.com While everything else will have to be in the form of pull requests from https://github.com/BlissRoms-x86 or https://github.com/Android-PC

For anyone interested in joining our team, please visit the Bliss Family page of our site for more information on how to do that ;)

https://blissroms.com/bfor.html

For those with even a little experience, but a lot of drive to learn more, we also offer our services to help people learn the ropes. https://t.me/Team_Bliss_Build_Support

Or for those a little more committed, look into the Bliss Family page of our site and join from there.
[BLISS ROMS Development] AllanJacques:
Ok, I will be the first to ask, is the ipts thingy compiled on this starting version? Would this be suficient to make it work on a surface? Thanks!
[BLISS ROMS Development] electrikjesus:
I have another kernel I have working for IPTS on the Surface devices. I will make sure to post a build with that soon
[BLISS ROMS Development] vEEGAZ:
Great work. Almost everything works flawlessly but the wi-fi. It turns on but it isn't able to connect to any network.

Device is HP Pavilion X2 10.

I'll try to get the logs when I have more free time.

EDIT: a little more insight before I get the logs. The Wi-Fi will turn on, as I said, and it will see all the available networks. But when you connect one, it'll just try connecting until it shows the "Disabled" status under the network name.

EDIT2: the chipset is an Intel 3165.
[BLISS ROMS Development] wenna.speedy:
Does not work on Asus t101ha (cherrytrail)
[BLISS ROMS Development] electrikjesus:
Did you try the old modprobe method? Any of the kernel command line options from Grub? Anything??? With the amount of warnings I put in the OP, I would expect a little more info than what was provided.
[BLISS ROMS Development] electrikjesus:
Also for your case, can you try booting up with the old modprobe method mentioned in the second post? It may handle that wifi chipset a bit differently.

Another thing to try is to disable and then re-enable wifi service:

$ su

$ svc wifi disable && svc wifi enable
[BLISS ROMS Development] AllanJacques:
I'm not asking for an ETA but do you think it will be a long time until it comes?
[BLISS ROMS Development] electrikjesus:
Instead, how about I tell you about this update Microsoft pushed to the surface book that made it to where I can't test my IPTS, or any kernel currently...

So to help with quality assurance, I would rather wait until I can test a build to make sure it works as expected before passing it off to the public.
[BLISS ROMS Development] mickey36736:
Hello. I tried to boot by using USB live cd and it worked great on Nitro 5 spin.

Touchscreen, rotation, bluetooth are working.

Wifi sometimes doesn't turn on like oreo version.

But when I tried to boot on ssd using easy install, it didn't boot and boot screen was yellow instead of blue.

It seem to be a mounting issue.
[BLISS ROMS Development] electrikjesus:
You got that result when using the easy installer? Did you try using the bootable USB install?
[BLISS ROMS Development] wenna.speedy:
I tried all boot options - stucked on boot everytime.
[BLISS ROMS Development] mickey36736:
Yes, I tried all boot options. Stuck at boot screen and there is some screen tearing too.

When I use debug parameter, it show mounting issue and it stuck there.

I didn't try USB install yet. But will report back when I have time. :)
[BLISS ROMS Development] electrikjesus:
The symptoms suggest that some of your hardware isn't being detected right on install
[BLISS ROMS Development] Eljay227:
Surface pro 2017 touch screen

I tried all versions of this rom including this latest Android pie. Still No touch screen functionality for Microsoft surface pro 2017. Please how do i manually update the drivers or fix this issue? Will really appreciate any help. Thanks :)
[BLISS ROMS Development] electrikjesus:
I'm just gonna ignore this and ask you to read the OP again, but slower
[BLISS ROMS Development] ElfinJNoty:
You shall wait until we release a build that supports your ipts display, and then rejoice!

Pie is "beta preview" and we build BlissOS to run on 1000's of potential HW configurations. Then we test with the devices we possess. When deemed ready, we share. A build which supports your device specific issue: not ready yet.

The info you requested to do this manually can be found using the search function of XDA(visit the website instead of app and look in a thread for "search this thread" then type: manual driver

.....or just read the OP ?
[BLISS ROMS Development] electrikjesus:
For any of you that would like to contribute towards Bliss OS development, I have started a public development oriented chat for that purpose: https://t.me/blissx86dev
[BLISS ROMS Development] didnt1able:
Write with ruffus in DD MODE and report back
[BLISS ROMS Development] B__B:
Could you explain can't find dd on Rufus 3.3
[BLISS ROMS Development] didnt1able:
It should prompt you before you flash it to the drive. It will ask you "ISO mode or DD mode

https://imgur.com/a/W7KXmFU
[BLISS ROMS Development] @kitokit:
Better use an older version of Rufus.... version 1.4.9, their is a dd mode in the menu.
[BLISS ROMS Development] didnt1able:
im using 3.2.1397, no issues
[BLISS ROMS Development] B__B:
I wrote it using dd but still hasn't booted from usb
[BLISS ROMS Development] didnt1able:
Did you select the usb as the boot option?

Does it just boot straight into your other os?

Is it just android-x86 that doesn't boot from usb or linux also?
[BLISS ROMS Development] B__B:
Yes a chose live boot from USB it shows detecting Android x86
[BLISS ROMS Development] didnt1able:
Unplug and replug your usb drive. As stated in this post

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/remix-os-for-pc/WkYQ8xFKFvA
[BLISS ROMS Development] B__B:
OK I've done that and still nothing
[BLISS ROMS Development] didnt1able:
Are you using a Intel Core 2 based system?
[BLISS ROMS Development] B__B:
Yes I am
[BLISS ROMS Development] didnt1able:
Not sure if this documentation will help with cpu power management on intel mobile cpu's. https://sourceforge.net/p/android-x...26dc7a52/tree/drivers/cpufreq/speedstep-smi.c

If speedstep is available to android. That would be a great option for mobile users.

Update:

- bluetooth/bt audio works

- webcam works in open camera for photos. (Video crashes app)

-system crash when opening notification from shade. (Trying to get logs)

-MAC addresses unavailable but there is a connection

-no mic support
[BLISS ROMS Development] beboxed:
I have a Surface pro 6 i5 and have tested the following (slightly old) version/image in live mode:

Bliss-v11.1-Beta--OFFICIAL-20181104-1528_x86_64_k-kernel-4.9-IPTS_m-m18.3.0-devel_w40_LLVM70_f-dev-kernel.org.iso

What works:

- Booted nicely to homescreen

- Wifi

- Sound

- Keyboard & touchpad

- Attaching/removing keyboard & touchpad

- Installing apps from f-droid

- Bluetooth searching for devices

What doesn't work:

- Touchscreen

- Browsing the storage with the File app

If you want to have anything specifically tested please tell me, I'm happy to help.
[BLISS ROMS Development] Techno01:
I tried to boot using live USB. Its booting but the display is glitched. The Android x86 project iso with kernel 4.18 works fine though. Thanks to the new AMDGPU driver in kernel 4.18, the Android x86 is the only iso that boots without disabling hardware acceleration.

My laptop is HP Pavilion 15-AB125AX which has AMD A10-8700P APU(Carrizo) with R6(Kaveri) graphics.
[BLISS ROMS Development] didnt1able:
Build is possibly still on 4.9 jesus is looking into it i believe
[BLISS ROMS Development] didnt1able:
Play store working sorta , store keeps disappearing from app drawer. But gsf seems to be functional. I removed the gmscore thats prepackaged and extracted the ones from opengappsx86 zip

http://imgur.com/gallery/yAExoUW
[BLISS ROMS Development] bfmetcalf:
You only copied the APK's right?
[BLISS ROMS Development] didnt1able:
I copied the apks and renamed phonesky to com.android.vending.apk.Put it in a folder with the same name. And enable spoofing manually.

su

pm grant com.android.vending android.permission.FAKE_PACKAGE_SIGNATURE

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Also delete gmscorefolder and fake store folder

THIS WILL NOT WORK ON 4.18 BUILD

It appears that if it disappears re applying the spoofing command brings it back.

Getting alot of memtrack errors. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22629568/couldnt-load-memtrack-module-logcat-error
[BLISS ROMS Development] alipril:
Hi i have a dell laptop I7 the touch screen is faulty , so when i use windows 10 i disable hid device touch screen how do i disable the touch screen on bliss os ?
[BLISS ROMS Development] cjeu100:
open /system/etc/modules.blacklist file with a text editor

add these two lines

blacklist hid-multitouch

blacklist hid_multitouch

If this doesnt work then check your lsmod and see which module is using your touchscreen, then blacklist it.
[BLISS ROMS Development] Aki-to:
Where can I find the hashes of the ISO files? I have searched everywhere, but could not find even a mention of hash verification.
[BLISS ROMS Development] Causical:
Can anyone tell me why whenever I try to live boot Bliss all that happens is it goes to black screen with a small underscore cursor in the top left of the screen. If I wait a while it does make a sound eventually that I believe is probably related to a boot animation sound. Nothing ever loads, I've tried practically every option in the "boot menu/install screen". I'm not sure what else to do.

I have a Lenovo yoga 730 with an Intel i5 8th gen.
[BLISS ROMS Development] Aki-to:
This sounds like bootloader was not properly installed. One would need to investigate how you installed the OS and what options you exactly chose.
[BLISS ROMS Development] RemixedCat:
samsung internet is crashing on the new tab page and anywhere else... I'm using it on a cherry trail panasonic toughpad knockoff from amazon "Sinicvision Vanquisher SV88" Just got bliss os installed on it and I'd love to use samsung internet because the very nice dark mode.
[BLISS ROMS Development] cjeu100:
You must try Bliss OS 14 or 12 which has a newer kernel, Bliss os 11.13 has old kernel 4.19.

But keep in mind that, for arm apps you need bliss os 11.13. Bliss os 14 has experimental arm app support, bliss os 12 doesn't have any arm support.

Sometimes using the advanced android x86 installer by supreme-gamers (not the bliss installer) can help you boot, it has alternate bootloader and kernel optimization flags and proper gearlock recovery mode.

You should tell us iso file used for installation,

Logs are very useful things. Allows us to see the universal language of code taking place, and avoids trouble of needing the user to be extra knowledgeable, and/or bypass communication/language barriers.

Remember that you can use the terminal to grab logs:

Or else boot to debug mode and a log will be saved in /data/log.txt
[BLISS ROMS Development] dannyleone:
Can I install the ROM Bliss OS with Android 9 for my Teclast x98 Plus? Can't find to download for Intel Cherry Trail Z8300 processor. Solution?
[BLISS ROMS Development] cjeu100:
Choose intel atom download.
[BLISS ROMS Development] Causical:
Thank you for your response, firstly I didn't use any installer. I'm somewhat familiar with booting and installing media from an .ISO on a USB drive (ie: Linux)

I tried ALL the options like I said when it boots to the installation screen, yes even DEBUG mode. At this point I can't even live boot Bliss to test run it, every single option loads to blank screen with underscore in top left.

As for which Bliss build I downloaded well seemingly the most obvious one I should've downloaded, being the only one that says "stable" under Intel celeron/i3/i5/i7/i9. I'm guessing that's the list of processors that build is compatible with, I have an 8th gen i5 so that's the one I chose. Everything else says Experimental.