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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Delgoth:
They did it for the S8 on Rev 5. We can do it too on the Note 8 rev 5. We can get Nougat 7.1 root via combination firmware. This would allow us to use all of this information to decode the new bootloader revision. We might not have Oreo or Pie yet with this. But it is a start. Look at the Verizon Note 5 now. It's possible guys, and I just started looking into it. I actually have two N950U's. I'm hoping to make this stick. There is a alot of information available these days that wasn't when this device was still Really Active.

There is hope still. The OP was correct about that one. But a bootloader unlock is still a stretch until we can attain a stable root on a stock system image. Samsung always customizes AOSP. And they basically invented the new Desktop Mode for Android with DEX. Look at how Xposed had to be customized for Samsung's ART revisions. Everything is still possible, but the path is a bit jagged compared to AOSP. We have to remember that rooting/unlocking SS's cannot usually be done in the same order of operations as Standard AOSP/Chainfire. Really, when CF left SS development, he basically almost steered his apps into being directly incompatible with SS's. AOSP is not the Samsung way here. I've said for at least 3 years, we cannot go that route even though it is still possible in the end. Samsung intentionally gave us detours. We just don't have the Atlas, yet.

Look around in my XDA folder: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4PoJYLnmv1Ba1dEV2QwYnBWZU0

You will find a bunch of useful utilities for a lot of different tasks.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] butchieboy:
A lot indeed[emoji106]

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] SomeGuy2008:
My VZW Note 8 is still sitting at AQH7 stock 7.1 untouched for the last almost 2 years. In hopes that I will have some semi decent options of unlocking the BL and or a root other than SamFail. If not I'm up for upgrade here soon. Either way appreciate all the hard work and time folks have put into this project/thread!

~SG
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
anyone want to try edl root method for v5 bootloader. If it works it can get root for nougat and safestrap for pie like the s8 has
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Eudeferrer:
I would loved to see this work. I've been holding out on updating bootloader just because root was not possible.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
Well I need someone to test for me thats on v5. I could also use someone like you that still has root if you are interested

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Eudeferrer:
In a few days I may have some time to play with it since I'll be in vacation. I can contact you when I'm ready. For now, my time is very limited to do much. Hopefully there is plenty of people who updated to V5 willing to try this out.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
Nope not one single person has offered too try

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Eudeferrer:
Lets give it some time. From what I can see it's been only a few minutes since your post asking for volunteers. Reading past posts there were many people interested. I think it's just that this thread has been kind of dead for a while so most people don't expect any kind progress by now. This is great news if you have something new to try out! I'm excited. I may have some time tomorrow. I'll let you know.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
I posted on discord yesterday and nobody yet has responded so maybe here someone will

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Eudeferrer:
I will contact you ASAP when I have some time if your need a tester for V3. I'm certainly interested.

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Would it be something simple like the S8 (just a file to Odin flash) or would it have many steps to follow?

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
I could use someone like you no make me a system image dump with safestrap installed. I really could use that as a system image dump has the most likelihood of flashing successfully in edl. Safestrap is the key to installing pie builds with safestrap built in.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] SomeGuy2008:
My Note 8 is my daily driver for work and cant really afford to potentially brick it etc.. Not to mention the only rooting iv ever done on my droids over the years where (for the most part) one or 2 click type with little risk involved. And from reading this thread, this method at least as it stands if even possible, is by no means a one click process and only recommended for someone who knows what they are doing. :(

~SG
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
My method is pretty easy there is not much risk as you are using edl method which is what is used to fix your bricked phone. you use edl to flash a rooted system image and the other files you are using odin to flash which is used to flash stock firmware. The phone will either boot or it wont in that case you just flash back stock firmware
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Delgoth:
I have the platform signature down to the character for the Dex Mode Apps in the 5DSC1 initial pie update. I'm looking into this as well since the revision A and B bootloaders are for nougat and we have rootable nougat factory binaries. I'm busy IRL too so I'm slow at the game. But I got a new really dev capable machine now. Also the leaked D builds that are capable of some work.

Like I said. I have two devices. I can technically afford to mess one up this time around. Those rev 2 edl files are great because they are all nougat based. What afaneh92 did should still be possible I believe.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
Here is my thread with edl root method for v5 bootloaders

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-8/development/root-t3942403
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Eudeferrer:
I think I know the answer, but does it still have the 80% battery limitation or has that changed under this new rooting method?

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Delgoth:
Your thread made me revisit all of this. Your method should work now that I know how to begin. The question is really how make all those step with the correct note8 files. How did you combine the different packages in each step? I'll look through it today and maybe flash the factory binary tonight or tomorrow if it all pans out.

Edit: wait that's actually for the N950u lol. Good deal. Good job.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
All that is still the same and its still only root for nougat 7.1 but it does allow you to flash my pie rom with safestrap installed so you can have the ability to modify and flash zips on stock pie roms even though there is no root

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Incognit420:
Hi jrkruse I contacted you on the S8 forum about this didn't know you posted on here. I'm willing to try it, currently on v3 rooted.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
Its confirmed working on v5.. Thank you for offering
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Delgoth:
Doesn't that also mean we can flash zips that can have permissions with the signature they are signed with? Couldn't we utilize /priv-app access in something like a home_csc flash kind of deal to get one of our apps to carryover?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Romreactor:
Will I be able to flash Pie from a Samfail rooted device running bootloader V2.5?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Incognit420:
No problem and thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
No but you can update to v5 bootloader and flash my pie rom with safestrap and then you will have access to safestrap in pie to flash Zips mod the system etc

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Delgoth:
Samsung did release the sources to 5DSC1 however. I wonder as to how much of an advantage that gives us since the open source release happened when the build was still new even. They don't tend to release them together anymore, and usually not the same build all the time either
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Eudeferrer:
Can you guide me on how to create a system image dump? I'm not familiar with this. Is this the same thing as a ROM backup in TWRP?

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
Yes if you make a system image backup in safestrap or twrp it is the same

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If you request source code from Samsung they are bound by the terms of the linux kernel open source license agreement and the must release it to you. So if you want latest source just request it and bug the hell out of them til they do

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Eudeferrer:
Which parts would you like me to back up? All of them?

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
Its ok. I really don’t think i need them anymore but thank you anyways

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Superloud024:
Is there a way all this can be put into a step by step tutorial for v5?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Eudeferrer:
A simple search on XDA would have shown:

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=79783543

It's really not that hard to use the search button.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Packtlike:
Can I help using a 960u1? Bl locked. Lemme know

Linc
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] elliwigy:
check out my threads lol.. half way there already.. any methods described in here tho using edl or flashing custom system etc will not work on n960u/u1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] DroidisLINUX:
So a few years ago when we were trying to root the zte zmax Jcase told us we could load the recovery.img over the boot.img, he swapped the recovery.img for the boot.img for read write permissions, Has anyone tried to see if they could flash a recovery.img over boot.img I know we have a locked bootloader, but the recovery is signed by sammy, I am not advising this to anyone new, for bricking reasons but you might be able to load a read write permissive pie if you can boot the recovery.img as the boot img
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Delgoth:
I know it doesn't add much at this time. But I'm sitting here thinking, if we can flash an edl rom, that does mean we have "some" fastboot capabilities.

That's why rebooting to download mode and rebooting to the bootloader from recovery gives you two different screens.

I realize we boot to edl mode in order to flash this stuff. But normally edl roms are flashed in fastboot and commonly called "fastboot roms" on other devices.

I was once able to get able to get Modaco's superboot to actually function on a G925V. That person's thread was deleted by a mod though shortly after it was posted a few years back.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] plainbum:
Edl rom?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
Its just a modified system image you flash in edl 9008 mode

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] plainbum:
What is EDL 9008 mode?

Simple "Download Mode"?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
Google it

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] plainbum:
You're not helpful.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] elliwigy:
and your being lazy lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
What would you like me to do google it my self then copy and paste the definition for you. Your asking me what something is you don’t understand then try to find out. If you have no clue what edl 9008 mode is then you may want to read up about it before trying it. Im not being unhelpful I have many people ask the same questions over and over when the answer can be found with a simple search. Here is what a google search found for me

https://www.96boards.org/documentation/consumer/guides/qdl.md.html

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] plainbum:
And you are being a jerk.

elliwigy, I did Google it before I asked my question. I did not understand the results and explanations I found, so I came here and asked.

Maybe you don't understand everyone that comes here is on your level on knowledge and they way you treat people has an effect on this forum of whether new people feel welcomed to asking questions or not.

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I'd like you to point out where someone else asked the same question as I did? Right never happened.

I did "Google it" before your unhelpful first reply. But I did't understand the answers. SO If it bothers you so much to reply to people like me then you should have simply ignored my question instead of being rude.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] elliwigy:
im with jrkruse on this one.. i dont think we could explain it any better than what uve supposedly already read and these types questions get old after so many..

instead of asking a very broad question that is easily found on 1000s of websites maybe u should try asking questions about what you dont understand and maybe ud get better replies..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] DroidisLINUX:
Kid grow a pair and shut up already this isn't your house, this isn't your forum he made a rom and did the work to show us how to flash a rom in edl mode. He described it pretty well. If you honestly read that Google post and still need clarification I am going to give it to you because you are like a baby and I am sick and tired of people blaming others for their own ignorance.

Edl = emergency download mode. 9008 is just a number.

In edl mode the USB becomes a flashing tool on Qualcomm device's, it will allow you to flash to the emmc. This makes it able to flash his rom onto of the system.img that was nougat with the locked eng boot loader because it is a signed Samsung rom. This then allows you to boot safestrap while maintaining pie. Or going back to oreo or a rooted nougat.

Edl might be able to do more it says you can use the firehose protocols so that .XML you see when you flash a combo file. It can run an xml program and read write peek poke files or operations on the phone's internal memory might allow for flashing of unsigned .img though the problem with that is Samsung has signed checks on all of there partitions on the hardware level so if the file isn't signed bootloader you may get a brick even if you just unzipped the boot and rezipped it. There are some exceptions like the eng bootloader seems to unlock the key to a modified system.img. however we have not gotten a boot.img to load that is not Samsung for this reason.

Though I am sure it is possible

This edl to pie is a step in the right direction, only problem is we should have done this on nougat so we could take advantage of the root. With this and the eng bootloader for nougat and safestrap you could probably get rom slots to work, but now we are on bl5 and less opportunities to get a multi rom or unsigned system.img to work. That being said do some of your own homework

If you read his post and googled that edl and read this and still don't understand then I suggest you go buy an iPhone cause you are in the wrong area of life.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] elliwigy:
of course it allows flashing unsigned img, how u think flashing a system.img works and getting safestrap? they modify the system.img therefore breaking sig..

edl needs the signed programmer and properly formatted xmls.. on n8 you can then flash anything pretty much..

problem is it doesnt disable secure boot.. so unsigned boot.img for example will flash but will not boot as it is checked by secure boot process whereas system isnt on n950u allowing to boot modified system..

reason why pie root is difficult on n8 is bcuz theres no pie combo which would have permissive boot.img so pie needs to use stock boot.img which will block root stuff bcuz of selinux enforcing

but yes, ur post is correct
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] elliwigy:
to add, eng bl doesnt do much of anything as was the case on s8 s8+ and even s10+ (yes i got eng bl on s10+).. s10+ has a lot more security however so eng bl will work but vbmeta doesnt allow it to boot even with stock
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] hleo114312:
So any time soon we can have a root for s10 on snapdragon.. good

Enviado desde mi SM-N975U mediante Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Delgoth:
That's why I'm really about to give up Pie and just go back to Nougat. Now that I see the method to get a normal(ish) and usable system image onto the thing, that's all I wanted. I wanted my Command Line Access to understand the newer android versions. The hardware is still good regardless. Thanks peeps. I kind of overlooked the fact at first that, with safestrap we can easily remove the unusable factory system on Rev5. I use Nova Launcher Prime anyways.

Although as of like two days ago my USB port is now acting funny, I have to use my wireless charger more often than not. I might not even get to do this for a minute. I'm still no expert myself personally. I read a lot of your posts jrkruse and elliwigy, I can follow you most of the time, I just can't do it myself yet. Y'all have a way of explaining things well though I've found for me. Because I've done google searches many times for concepts in flashing that I get pretty weak results for a lot, but then I can find one explanation from one of you two that blows the 5 results in google out of the water with the details for our device.

I want to better understand what we can do with https://alephsecurity.com/2018/01/22/qualcomm-edl-2/

I know. Tried and pretty much failed. But I'm still kinda convinced there is a way to maybe use the edl method with newer exploits to maybe get some more work done. I don't know. I just like to try and understand how the engineers put the device together. Half the time I don't even have a Real Legit use for it, but I just wanted to learn it or about it. Just to know.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] finessefigure:
Im so on board with you. I have have the same aspiration ever since i received the s8, now the note8. 100percent
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] unimatrix725:
I have a subscription to (UAT) Uni-Android-Tool.

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f1019/

I also have (BST) Best Smart Tools. The UAT is more updated.

I will be happy to help or contribute if these tools could help. I'm more concerned about fixing my v30 than anything. I would be willing to allow remote access to tools if that's possible.

UaT let me make rawprogram.xml& patch0.xml for LG. I need the loader/firehose for v30 which is suspiciously missing. Uat has a huge list of those loaders. Specifically Samsung devices. I'm going to read this whole thread. There's allot more leaked files for Samsung than LG...?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] FlashyWatermelon:
Have there been any updates on this since your last reply [MENTION=7006025]BigCountry907[/MENTION]?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Eudeferrer:
I'm pretty sure this thread has been abandoned since it's been over a month with no work or replies of any kind. I think everyone has moved to bigger and better devices.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] diabl0w:
thats a pretty bold statement coming from someone with a Pixel 3 :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] butchieboy:
Maybe has more than one device like many people[emoji6][emoji106]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] diabl0w:
and? whats your point
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Eudeferrer:
You do realize Note 8s are already 2 generations behind and most people have moved on to newer devices right? I do have multiple devices including my beloved Note8. However, after using it for a while, I moved on. I still wish a solution would be found if anything just to defy Samsung. After the frustration with Samsung's locked bootloader and limited root, I went to a pixel 3XL which has served me well so far. I periodically check here for updates but notice the lack of development which I attribute (perhaps erroneously) to developers moving on.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] butchieboy:
Because his signature says Pixel could mean he posted with that. Easy cowboy..lol

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Hey Mike...things never change bro...[emoji1787][emoji23]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] diabl0w:
I still dont understand your point lmao
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] butchieboy:
Nothing buddy. I dont like to bicker here. No harm intended[emoji106][emoji481]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] saantomoh:
I agree! Thank you for your time and perseverance!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] FuzzyFoxe:
I've been following this thread for some time now, and haven't seen any posts from OP since February 2019.

I don't suppose it would be rude to ask for a progress update at this point in time? It would be nice to see anything uplifting.

(Using the Chimera rom on my phone at the moment, however it leaves much to be desired since System UI constantly crashes at seemingly random intervals. I suspect this would be fixed if it didn't have to stem from the dev rom.)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] FuzzyFoxe:
Please don't be rude or reply with unhelpful/unrelated/unproven information. :/

Just because you've given up doesn't mean you need to spread negative opinions when others still have hope.

[MENTION=7006025]BigCountry907[/MENTION] , Since my question was directed at you primarily, Would you be able to chime in? It's been almost a year.

Is this project on hold? Is there a snag? Have you given up on it? Either an update or closure is all I'm asking for.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] jrkruse:
With it being said by you thats its been over a year since anything has been done then its a pretty good assumption that the thread is probably dead and the OP has moved on

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] gamechangervn:
Thank you i have bootloader version 7 and don't like the firmware but have no way to go back.

It's a very sad news.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] butchieboy:
There is a new method that allows you to flash a prerooted Nougat firmware

SM-N950U Extreme Syndicate Root
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] elliwigy:
yessir.. so is s9 s9+ and n9 with extreme syndicate root fyi
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] GSM CHEN:
@BigCountry907​

You might be able to take what you've found, try it on an older model, and it might work!

(Samsung's signature and token were "theoretically interusable" before the S20 model)