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[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Semantics:
I was planning to sell my Note 9 for the 3XL until I saw it in person. My observations. The design for a thousand dollar phone is way worse than I thought. The screen, side by side against the Note 9 was trash. I did like the camera better. I guess I'll keep the Note 9 as the notch is way too distracting . The screen just isn't nearly as good as the Note 9, it's too dim and dank looking side by side. I think after seeing the phone I've resigned myself to never buy a phone with a notch. It's just an awful trend that I hope goes away in the future. I'm dying to get back to a top of the line Google phone, but they keep coming up short in design and hardware for me and at the 1k price mark I expect better.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] OkayGK:
I'll put my two sent as a buyer who ordered pixel 3 XL and was excited to receive it. Until, all the problems started to pop up on YouTube and forums. All you have to do is read. Sad and sucks.

I can't believe I paid $1275 cnd for a phone and haven't cancelled the order. After reading all the crap. Hoping that somehow all the problems which people are having with these phones, will avoid me.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] draiken78:
I'm not having any problems with mine.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] lollyjay:
I have no problems whatsoever with mine.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dmb219:
I'm happy with mine, no problems.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mackentosh:
The RAM management is ?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] yungskeeme01:
Haven't had any issues with phone. I came from an iPhone X and love this experience. Only gripe is the main front camera seems like trash for videos. Good thing I don't take videos with the front camera.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] djy:
Just RMA'd mine for high pitched electrical noises from the speaker during calls. Sounds like an EMI shielding problem. The bottom speaker also distorts with volume below 50% on most content but that's a separate issue. I'm coming from an S5 which has significantly better range for wifi and BT. The Pixel 3 XL, when in pocket, drops BT connection in my 2017 car. I got more than twice the range with the S5 in the office. Wondering if it's the glass vs plastic back? No notification LED was a dumb decision. At least emulate one with the OLED screen. Same with dark UI that does nothing. OLED devices should have the ability to use pure black backgrounds.

The camera and screen are great but this thing should be no more than $500 usd. My 5+ year old phone was water resistant, had wireless charging, removable battery, IR blaster, sdcard slot, unlocked bootloader, nfc, fingerprint reader, headphone jack. Not sure why some consumers try to defend or rationalize the trend of removing features, charging more, and planned obsolescence (glass backs, non-removable batteries, no fasteners, fast charging, delaying and limiting firmware updates, and gimping old devices with updates)?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] SinisterXReaper:
My 3 xl hasn't come in yet, but my 2 xl periodically has BT issues in my 2018. Doing a quick comparison between the two phone, it seems the BT modules are the same (correct me if I'm wrong). I wonder if it's just the hardware aspect? Your comment about the notification LED got me thinking, is that something that can be implemented in future ROMS? I've never seen it, however, it would be really nice to have.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] djsaad1:
I have had the 3 xl for about 10 days now, and I am about to give up on it. I am coming from an s8+ with custom roms. I liked the s8+ more than the original pixel, so I skipped the pixel 2. Had to come back and try the 3, but not impressed.

I can't beleive I am saying this, but there are just small things that are better with TouchWiz over asop. I could never stand a full TouchWiz phone, but TouchWiz with a custom rom might be the right mix. I feel like google is getting lazy. I miss the nexus line, when Google was actually trying.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] djy:
Thought all US varients of Samsung phones have locked bootloaders? They certainly make better hardware, except for the stupid curved screens.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JasW:
I've had mine for just under 48 hours, and I don't get the hate at all. I find the notch innocuous. The phone and particularly the screen are gorgeous. Coming from the OG XL, I immediately found the phone, well, eminently snappier. The only problem, assuming it is one, is the audio implementation. Top volume is too loud. I've turned it down to just under 2/3rds, which I've never had to do before. Plus they've purposely put something -- exactly what, I don't know -- in the middle of the back of the phone that aggressively vibrates with the audio. Combine that with the top volume being too loud, and I see where many of the audio complaints come from.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] djsaad1:
I buy the international versions, the downside is that if you get a bad unit there isn't much recourse.

I just ordered an international note 9 through Amazon with prime, so I should be able to return it if something is wrong early.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] galaxys:
All the usa versions (Snapdragon) are locked...
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] collindubya:
you guys seem to be forgetting that this is a pixel device, there will be tons of amazing roms available for it which will fix many of the issues that to be honest google will probably resolve with the next security update in a month or so.

after coming from the s8+ (canadian variant) it will be nice to have phone with great hardware and great rom support and the ability to actually be rooted.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] flavioa:
The hate is because the phone has way too many issues for a 900$ device.

You have to be a serious Google fan or delusional to ignore all the flaws in the software and hardware.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
I love mine. It is so much better than any Samsung crap I ever had!
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] 13druber:
This phone blows
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Face_Plant:
Then stop complaining and return or sell it.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Shipmate:
I enjoy my Pixel 3 XL because it gets prompt android updates. I hated my Huawei p20 pro because you only got firmware updates about every 3 months or so in UK.

I'm not having any problems at all with the phone.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] miffymiffy:
I returned mine after a month. I can honestly say, the hype for pixel is unwarranted.

I came from a 6gb HTC U11 and went the P3XL. I found that it was closing apps constantly and ram management was pathetic. I continually dropped calls with it and it frustrated the hell out of me. I rooted it and ran all custom roms that were available. I had mixed results. Also the TWRP thing is a punish. Build quality was good, camera was good, but U11 i believe is also good.

Im running LOS16 on the U11 and its running better than any pixel rom (including stock) that I used. Im going to wait a few months and see what comes out to upgrade again. the 855 and 5g should be good fun.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] malek777:
after owning the phone for months, I definitely feel its overpriced for what you get. They could have put more effort but its apparent that they did the bare minimum.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] swieder711:
I like my 3 XL a lot.

Very smooth software. Lots of developer support. Nice feel to the hardware.

It was expensive, but in line with other flagship phones.

No regrets other than the missing 3.5mm headset jack. I found some decent usb-c wired earbuds, so that problem has been mitigated.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheIgster:
I think this phone would have been close to perfect if the notch had been smaller or not there at all. That's the main thing I dislike on this phone. Other than that, I love the screen and the true Android experience with quick updates and the first to receive brand new versions of the OS. I spent so long with Samsung devices hoping for updates that either never came or were so late it didn't matter much anymore.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
Exactly the same way I feel. Just looking at Samsung phones, Pie is just starting to make its way to it's top flagships. It takes so long, it's ridiculous. At the same time Android Q is starting to appear in Alpha form. By the time Samsung completes Pie release in most phones, we will be in Q and they will be another year behind.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] FernBch:
I think the hardware is pretty good, I do still have some issues in the software. They've got a few bugs to work out yet.

Pixel 3 XL, haven't crashed it, YET
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] fomunda:
Being an X Samsung (Note5, Note8 and i am stuck with a S8 for work) user I prefer my Pixel 3XL. I like the size, pure Android experience and love the camera. I can go either way with the notch and when i do watch an occasional video/movie on air flights i am presently pleased. I think people need to get over themselves. If you don't like it for whatever reason then don't buy it. Seems simple to me.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Lepa79:
Honestly, what's so urgent that you have to be on Android 9 vs Android 8?

I have both Note 9 and Pixel 3 XL. don't really care how fast Note 9 gets updated.

Majority of Android phone users don't even know what OS version they are one. Just saying..
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] flavioa:
Exactly lol everyone is talking about how they have pie and others don't . What does pie offer that Samsung on Oreo doesn't? Absolutely nothing. Its rediculous how much people care about the Android version instead of looking at how much each device is offering in terms of performance and features. My note 9 on Oreo is faster has better battery and better multitasking than my pie device. And I'm sure once pixel gets Android q it will still lack behind.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
You are tripping dude. If its true you were so happy with your Note 9, why did you get a Pixel 3 XL? I can totally see how you have no idea of why anyone else would want a piece of Pie. I guess when you've never had Pie on a phone, the features it brings would be irrelevant to you: redesigned quick-setting menus, improved notification bundling, Indoor navigation with Wifi RRt, native gesture navigation, dashboard, native app timer, modified DO NOT Disturb, wind down, Notch support, Lockdown mode, native Zoom in text, Smart notification channels, improvement in messaging apps, easier ways to take screen shots and edit them, Dark theme, increased security and ability to block apps running in the background from accessing camera and microphones, pair up to 5 Bluetooth devices simultaneously, media panel, new emojis, ambient display for battery percentage, adaptive battery and adaptive brightness, ART improvements which result in significant system performance improvements and efficiency boosts and the list goes on and on.

You can lie to yourselves all you want, but your way of thinking is that of someone who cannot attain something. When you can't have something, you tend to dismiss it as non-important for you. Head over to the Note 8 and 9 forums and see how excited everyone there is to finally be getting Pie in some parts of the world (even if in some devices it is still in Beta form and not a final version and even if its over 1/2 a year later). There are forums filled with anticipation for those that don't have it yet. People sometimes download and install partially broken-down versions just to test some of these new features. In this day and age when we expect so much from our $1000+ phones, any improvement in software, battery, security and efficiency is welcome. It is a sad and pathetic case that Samsung takes over 1/2 a year to bring these features to its flagships. But with people like you, why should they ever feel the need to upgrade anyone's software. Following your rationale, You might as well just leave it in its original software and never update anything. After all, who needs all the updates and new features?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] flavioa:
Notch support ?? ????????? What an amazing feature. I can't wait for pie to get to my other phone so I can get notch support. Awesome.

Also on the note it takes half a year to get amazing new features like notch support because Samsung is slow at updates.

How long do you think it will take for the pixel 3 xl to get the ability to have expandable storage, or the ability to keep more than 3 apps open in ram, or the ability to have a visible screen in sunny outdoors, or fast charging with any wireless charger besides the pixel stand or the ability to have secret folder or dual messenger for certain apps . So you can pay $900 to have early access to notch support and native zoom in text while other phones offer you more for the same price.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] malek777:
And watch the biggest feature of android Q be dark mode ???? which Samsung's had for a while now.

Let's be honest here android pie really brought nothing new to the table. I remember when Samsung had split screen forever, and Google finally released it, everyone was talking about it as if they were the first to implement it ?*♂️
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Lepa79:
Easier way to take screen shots and edit them? Dark theme?

DUDE, are you serious??? Really are you serious? Do you even have a Note 9 to see how crazy more advanced it is to take a screen shot and edit using a Spen?

Dark theme? Android 9 has a dark theme? I guess it does if you haven't experienced a true dark theme before. maybe you should borrow the OnePlus 6T that I have so you can see what Oxygen OS calls a dark theme. Come on man.

Pair up to 5 Bluetooth? Lol. Did you know that Samsung allows you to stream audio to 2 Bluetooth devices at the SAME time? Ya, its been doing that since Android 7.

Did you know that Samsung had Iris scanner unlock and android 9 doesn't?

Did you know that Samsung has face unlock and android 9 doesn't?

Did you know that Samsung had finger print unlock well before android OS did?

Did you know that one handed mode on Note 9 is awesome and that it doesn't even exist in Pixel 3 XL?

Did you know that Samsung pay works in so many more places where android pay doesn't?

I have note 9, pixel 3 xl, and OnePlus 6T because I want to not because one is better than the other. They are all good phones in their own way. So no and 100% no, you don't need android 9 to have an excellent experience.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Archangel:
I have to say, I really like my Pixel 3,,,I mean there were some bad hiccups but most of them have been fixed with recent updates. The only real issue I have is the speaker phone doesnt seem to work at times when I receive a call for the first few seconds. Not a deal breaker to me but just something I hope is software related to the noise cancelling. But other than that, I have nothing but good things to say about it.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
There are advantages and disadvantages to a Samsung phone. While it's a fact that Samsung phones look more polished at the end, it comes at a heavy price. You are ignorant in your assumptions that these Samsung features are as you say. For example, your Note 9 does not come with a dark theme. You can use substratum to create our add overlays but that adds to the bloatware on your system. Most of the nice Themes on Samsung theme store cost money and they are limited as to what they theme. Samsung's TouchWiz and all the features it brings (like the ones you describe) is a skin on top of your actual Android version. As such it horrendously slows down your phone and eats up the battery. Through the years, I've had almost every generation of Note to exist and it has always been the case. This is the reason why Samsung phones need twice the amount of memory as a stock Android phone. I never had a Samsung phone that didn't freeze or run out of battery by mid day. I am a heavy phone user and my rooted Pixel 3Xl is the first phone that lasts me all day and to this day remains fluid with over 250 apps installed. I don't have to deal with Samsung's closed down ecosystem which now does not even allow root. In my case, I don't care for an Iris scanner that irritates my eyes with a laser every time I use it, nor for a one hand phone since my hands are very large. I doubt that many people use this feature. Nonetheless, they exist and someone, somewhere uses them. One hand mode is on the Google store for anyone to download if they actually care for it. As far as Samsung pay, yes... One point on your side for usability vs Google pay, but every since they removed Amazon cards as a reward I really don't care for it much. Now all you can get is a discounted certificate to buy something at Samsung.com or for sites and stores I could care less about. And BTW, I can use Samsung pay with my Samsung watch synced to my Pixel phone, so, I can completely ditch the Samsung phone.

They point I'm making is Samsung's features exist at a high cost to battery life and performance degradation. Updates are slow to come if and when they come at all. Even the note 9 with it's huge battery life could be 100 times faster and more battery efficient if it was running stock Android. And as far as your One plus 6t, no thanks. No Chinese crap for me. I rather keep my data and piece of mind safe.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Lepa79:
1st, I didn't say Samsung has dark mode. Go back and read what I said. It's 6T that does.

2nd, this all started talking about "Do people on Android 8 need Android 9 on day one?" The answer is still a big NO.

I am not going to argue about who is faster, smoother ext. Never said Note 9 is. It is not. But that has nothing to do with Android 9 vs 8.

Oh by the way, you should try Oxygen OS on 6T. Smokes pixel 3 when it comes to speed and performance.

Again, all good phones in their own way. That's not what this discussion is about.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] suzook:
So i bought a used like new pixel 3xl last week. Almost half of full price. I also own a op 6t. The Camera on pixel is definitely better, but other than that? The OP is at least as good or better, and at almost half the price new. OP has better build quality, I see no difference in the lower screen resolution. In the end, I did sell my OP, for $15 less than I paid for it when I purchased it new. WHY? It comes down to the camera. And at $600, the pixel is worth it. How anyone is paying full price for this phone, is beyond me. Google NEEDS to step up its game on the Pixel 4. OP, is doing great things, and it sounds like the 7 will be tough to beat.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
Point taken, but going back to the basics. Some of the major points of Android Pie were Adaptive battery, new app security restrictions, and ART improvements which made the entire OS much more effective, secure and efficient. In my case, if I could have these on day 1 and not have to wait 6+months for some company to deliver it to me at their will, I'll take it on day 1.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Lepa79:
I get you and newer versions of Android always bring something to the table.

But really when you look around, regular users dont even know the OS version they are on. Pixel 3 xl is a great phone. Love mine.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Eudeferrer:
Agreed. You and I and anyone in this forum is a different breed from the "regular users." We definitely expect more from our devices than 99% of people of there.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
Forum moderator in 3...2...1....

C'mon guys, keep it civil shall we. It's ok to agree to disagree in a respectful manner as well :good:
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hilla_killa:
Lmao, they are both solid phones
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] SacredDeviL666:
Thread cleaned.

If you find someone's post inappropriate hit report instead of engaging yourself. Else both parties are held equally responsible, we aren't in school to say who started first and i just responded!

In short you find some post inappropriate/forum rule violation hit report button and let us handle it :highfive:

Now can we all get back and have some fun/beer. Lets be less hostile towards each other, its a PHONE !

Thanks

SacredDeviL666.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] SacredDeviL666:
you might want to count a little more... we are lazy during weekends :p ( i am through out the year honestly ;) )
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
Good one my friend :laugh::good:
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MArtyChubbs:
If you are in the US, Samsung's Snapdragon SoC'S are LOCKED and thus are a non starter for me.

With a good kernel and magisk, the p3xl is all that I need.

Had a s7 edge and learned what Samsung was about... Too much crap and had to reboot when the phone got choppy. Horrible battery life, (S6 joke) Because it was locked, had to live with it. Lame...

Those who need the phone set up for them, probably like Samsung or iPhones. People who want to customize software like the pixel3 XL. Easy pesy.

Why get in a pissing match over personal preferences? Waste of time...
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hilla_killa:
Well said!!
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Shipmate:
I've had mine since November and it's worked perfectly.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] devsk:
The main complaint I have with P3XL is that they went with 4GB (3.5GB in reality) RAM. That's not enough to run apps in 2018 (and now in 2019). I notice, even with Jan update, it chucks out apps like crazy, whereas my U11+ just keeps at least last 8 apps in and is much quieter. This not affects usability but also the battery life as apps are started and killed, each time engaging disk, memory and CPU.

Other than this, everything else is good about this phone.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hilla_killa:
Honestly all this 4gb of ram crap is well crap! Who in reality is using 8-10-12 apps at one time!? People complain about too much imo. Just like those pixel vs iphone tests on youtube, no one is in world will use their phones this way. Let me open every app then close it then open it again! Lmao. For "real life" usage the phone is perfect! And so was the 2xl
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] devsk:
Its not *your* use case. That does not mean its not someone's use case. Always remember Bill Gates quote from 80's: Nobody will need more than 640KB of RAM.

Also, a kill-restart cycle leading to battery depletion is a very real concern, don't discount that.

A flagship from 2017 retains more apps for *my use case* than a flagship from 2018. That's a strike against the phone, no matter how much of a fanboy koolaid you are drinking. And I am actually one of those fans for sure...:D:p;)
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] walkerx:
I like my P3XL and have no issues with memory management, i kill apps I no longer wish to have running in the background. I have a few that are permanently active, but that's my choice.

As for memory, IMO, 4GB is enough for the phone and needing more is usually down to the device not having optimized operating system or apps installed. A lot of phones now have more storage and memory than a lot of computers these days, even though there is really no need for it.