yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] KapriQ:
Hello Guys, after many problems, i have finally flashed this ROM. I flashed latest FW V10.3.1.0.PEIMIXM + ROM + PICO GAPPS.

Everything is fine. But i noticed that system is not smooth. Sometimes it is laggy for a few second, and then it goes well.. Did you noticed that too? Is that a ROM problem or some app? ... I haven´t install anything yet.

Thanks :( ...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Pjaswani023:
Flash a custom kernel for the time being to fix the lag. Kangaroo kernel is recommended.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
Smart Charging

I definitely can't make the "smart charging" feature to works and it makes me as upset as desperate.

The control files charging_enabled and input_suspend can be modified but as soon as I change their content in order to stop the charge, the system overrides it, which makes the charge to resume.

As the Havoc developer would not have left the "Smart Charging" feature in the settings if it didn't work, I assume there must be a way to make it work.

I wonder if it could be related to the kernel.

I actually have Kangaroox r4.9.

Would somebody have the "Smart charging" working with another Kernel, or at least with Havoc 2.8?

Any tip to make this curses feature to work would be much welcomed.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] ali.dilshad18:
Same here. It doesn't work. May be its because of kangaroox kernel.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
I did a few more attempts this morning:

Reinstalling the ROM without replacing its kernel: Nope.

Replacing the Firmware from China 10.3.4 to global 10.3.1: Nope.

Searching for another control file: Nope.

I'm running out of ideas :/

As I've used many ROM, Kernel and even firmwares and limiting the charging level never worked since I'm under Android 9, this issue must not be related to any version of ROM, Kernel or FW.

I wonder why the "Smart charging" isn't removed from the Havoc settings though.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] iball andi 4.5k6+ user:
How can i install MIUI cam on latest 2.8 build?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] solanki zeel:
I'm getting low volume in call after update.

I installed pie firmware first and then rom and gapps. Clean installation

Anyone noticed low volume in call or only i had? Or any way to increase volume?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] ray.77141:
https://camera.aeonax.com/
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Kousei Arima:
doesn't work for Indian whyred even after flashing fix , any solution?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] nikhiler47:
I'm using custom rom with oreo firmware. I'd like to try havic2.8. So when i upgrade to pie firmware, does it need internal memory to be wiped?(to remove encryption)

or wiping data and system partitions would be enough?

also, does vendor also need to be updated? (vendor flashable files are seen in xiaomifirmwareupdater.com ) not sure about it. if anyone know about it, a reply woukd be helpful.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Pjaswani023:
Internal memory doesn't need to be wiped, just install a recovery that supports pie firmware. Vendor is already in the ROM package, so no need to flash it either.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] nikhiler47:
sorry to ask again. DOES ENCRYPTION TURN ON when new firmware is flashed? it happens if we flash miui rom(ie; when changing to custom rom from miui, the encryption would be on and format data was done to remove it).

2) does vendor partition need to be wiped each time rom is changed ? i usually wipe cache, dalvik, data partitions. not vendor partition.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] ckom26:
FWIW, smart changing works perfectly in Havoc 2.5 with latest Oreo FW and any kernel. If you absolutely want the latest but not greatest, disable smart changing from settings and use the "Input power control" magisk module, it does the job alright.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
I knew that the Smart charging works fine with Android 8.1. I was grumbling about it with Android 9.

Your Magisk module works perfectly :good:

Thanks!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] e.r.e.d:
what custom ROM you are using ? i came from PE oreo fw to havoc 2.8 pie fw, no need to wipe internal storage, just wipe 5 things, dalvik, cache, data, system, and vendor.

i think as long as you flash AOSP based ROM you dont need to wipe internal storage.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Pjaswani023:
Yeah, vendor needs to be wiped before flashing a new ROM.

About the first inquiry, I don't have any idea as I have never tried to go back to stock rom. Still, you can flash FED for that, I guess.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] pierre prince:
if you are talking about the encryption in twrp then use this version: github-com/GuaiYiHu/android_device_xiaomi_whyred/releases/download/TWRP-20190330-3.2.3.0-whyred/TWRP-20190330-3.2.3.0-whyred.img (replace the (-) with . i had to put it like that because i didn't post before)

it's a stupid problem that happened to me when was trying to root my device for the 1st time yesterday
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] novntARD:
Is anyone here playing solitaire in google play games?

This game became so much laggy in the 2.8 than few versions before (i used 2.5 till 2.7, which is the game run smoothly) meanwhile all the other games (snake, mine sweeper etc) worked pretty fine

I already switch to kangaroo and icecold, both OC but didn't quite solve the bug
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] nikhiler47:
I'm using Liquid Remix, Oreo firmware. I've been using this build for abt 6-7 months and hence I'm planning to change to newer rom. I haven't done any research on pie fw till now, that's why I'm asking these silly questions. Thanks for thereply. :)

ok. I'll wipe vendor when I flash any custom rom.

About 2nd case, when flashing twrp over miui, the Encryption was turned on. To disable it 'format data' was done un TWRP(which wiped everything on the phone including internal storage).

so my doubt is, would the encryption be turned on after flashing this Pie fw file?

replace all ( - ) with ( . ) ?

yea, I'm talking about encryption in twrp itself. But it happens when we are flashing twrp over miui rom. flashing miui rom enables the encryption.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] e.r.e.d:
i dont play solitaire, but even for daily use, espesialy when scrolling, it stutter a lot, even with custom kernel

first time i flash this ROM, i use the china stable pie fw V10.3.3.0 then i flashed again the new update V10.3.4.0, it was fine no encryption turn on.

i was follow the update instruction from youtube channel KTNTECH, here in case you need it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6t7k2F7zmyw&t=15s
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] kraken77:
Thats why you should not use TWRP. It will ask you for encryption. to fix this just simply push the button

FORMAT

data. Or if you dont want to Format Data because

you love those precious data inside Internal Storage

, simply flash

OrangeFox

over

TWRP

.

It will not ask for Encryption

anymore.

Flashing MIUI rom does not enable encryption

.

It is the TWRP ITSELF

. Just change your TWRP to OrangeFox, your problem fix.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] nikhiler47:
which recovery are u using?

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I'm on oreo fw with liquid remix rom December 2018 build.

which version of orange fox recovery should i use? for changing to pie fw
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Kousei Arima:
Anyone know of any app to set the max. amount of current (like say 2300 mA), or in other words force fast charging
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] kraken77:
Use the latest version of OrangeFox is recommended which is currently the R10. Flash it then flash your pie FW
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] e.r.e.d:
twrp 3.3.1-1
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
I've claimed victory too quickly.

The Magisk module "Input Power Control" doesn't work either.

Instead of stopping the charge, it let it to go further, up to 100%, at a very low speed.

I believe it fights with the system, both overriding the same control file again and again, giving a kind of pulsed charge that the battery probably doesn't like.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] pierre prince:
i was talking about the url dude i can't post urls until my post count reaches 10 so i put - instead of . in the url

download use this version of twrp and u should be fine the encryption problem will be solved
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Pjaswani023:
Haha...Oreo firmware based havoc is calling you home.:angel:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
You're right about this feature (Smart Charging), but it's not the only one I'm interested into.

The Dark Mode (that I enjoy) is much better with Android 9 than 8.1 and I'm too lazy to do a clean install so I gonna keep Android 9 and rely on Automate alters to handle a "smart charge" manually.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Pjaswani023:
Firmware flashing won't do that. But do keep in mind to flash a recovery that supports pie firmware. You can use pitch black recovery(supports both oreo & pie firmware) for that.

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Really?? I can't tell them apart.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] e.r.e.d:
if i want to downgrade to 2.7 version, can i do dirty flash from 2.8 ?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] kraken77:
Clean flash is recommended.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] tororo7:
I didn't download it. is there an alternative link?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
I doubt a clean flash is necessary as the Android version is the same between 2.8 and 2.7.

A dirty flash, with wiping only cache and Dalvik, should work as well.

BTW, back about the benchmark bullsh..

I got the Antutu scores from my RN5 with Havoc 2.8 and two kernels:

Kangaroox r4.9 (OC): 129K

PureCaf X8: 116K

I got some serious issue yesterday. That's why I gave up on overclocking, to seek more stability.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Pjaswani023:
Try & tell one with icecold 4.2 if you get around to it.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
I can do such a test but why the 4.2 instead of the latest stable version 5.3?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Pjaswani023:
Many say 4.2 is awesome compared to 5.3.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
My tests are ongoing but before I publish the results, I need to know something:

Is it worth to install again the ROM before installing another kernel?

EDIT: I found the answer from my tests results: Yes, the ROM must be installed again before a new kernel.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] CreamCrime:
I found a bug on keyboard when using split screen. I found this bug on almost all custom rom for our device but didnt exist in Miui Rom.

Steps to reproduced.

Try to split screen two application.

Then try to open the keyboard by attempting to write.

And lastly try to click the button, and you can see they are unresponsive.

In some rom like lineage OS the keyboard are totally unresponsive after you open the keyboard two times in a row in split screen. Hope you can solve the problem.

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I also found bug in messaging, when you try reply a message from.notification the apps that is currently open will close. Hope try to fix to.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] peter-k:
It was mentioned by a couple of developers: We should not install a custom kernel on top of a custom kernel, but always only over the original kernel.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] kemdroid:
Yea. Just make sure you wipe both caches and system. Reflash the ROM the kernel.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] rhatzskunkfunk:
hello i just wanted to ask, my 5g wifi connection is not working fine ussing this cutom rom on my redmi note 5, in my office we are using 200mbps, 5g in wifi and im the only one who has a 30mb DL speed below, but when i was on masik i always got 190+ mb on speed test, can anyone know how to fix it???
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] kraken77:
i dont understand why people comparing kernels. please stop comparing kernels. there is no such thing as best/perfect/good or what so ever in real life. All depends on various usage. Stop comparing kernel, appreciate the developers.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
Here is the result of my tests though.

I've installed the ROM (Havoc 2.8) before each kernel, except from IceCold 4.2 to 5.3 and from KangarooX r4.9 non-OC to the OC version.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] e.r.e.d:
thanks man

===

if i want to change firmware, can i just flash it on twrp ? i wanna try new global stable 10.3.2.0, currently i am on china stable 10.3.4.0

===

first time i flashed this ROM, its stutter a lot when scrolling, i have tried many kernels such as kangaroox, icecold, extendel, purecaf. and the problem is still there. what version of havoc that smooth for daily user ?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
I've installed the Fw Global 10.3.2 and only wiped cache and Dalvik before booting to System, and it booted without setting the phone on fire but I didn't test any application because I had to install the ROM to change the kernel (yes, once more) so I couldn't tell if a dirty flash of the firmware is recommended.

Unfortunately, this firmware is disappointing. Its performance is still below the China 10.3.4's.

Antutu scores with PureCaf X8:

China 10.3.4: 115650

Global 10.3.2: 107303

The gap mainly comes from the CPU: 47392 instead of 55525.

I gonna keep the Global 10.3.2 though because I seek stability much more than performance.

PureCaf is the only kernel that read correctly the sensor pa_therm0 (actually 35°C instead of 96°C).
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] e.r.e.d:
thanks for the review, what about battery life ? is it a big defferent ?

what do you mean to change kernel with install ROM ?

btw, do you feel stutter in your device when scrolling ? it's noticable on my device and can be bother sometime
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] kraken77:
Yes you can flash new global stable with TWRP but youll suffer from encryption. But thats not a big thing though. You can just change your recovery to remove encryption without formating data.

As for this rom,i didnt use it as much. Only for a few testing. Nothing new caught my eyes instead a big turn off dev removed MIUI camera. Currently patiently waiting for new version. And whats a major turn off, people keep discussing and comparing kernels on this thread. Theres a thread for each of the kernels..go discuss there. Or if not, open a new thread and discuss your show off screenshot "sky rocketing" kernels setup. Da*n noobs
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Pjaswani023:
Agree with this part.

Strongly disagree. Why?? Coz for a gamer, like me, kangarooX OC or icecold 4.2 would be the best kernel among all & for a non-gamer, like my other friend who owns the same device, purecaf would be the one. So yeah, you are right about "All depends on various usage.", but for a specific task there would a best as well as a worst kernel among all.

We do appreciate them as well as their work. Discussing about various kernel isn't a disrespect now, is it?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] kraken77:
Its not that im strongly disagree. Theres a specific thread for it, go discuss there. You are spamming this thread. Or easy way, open new thread and go discuss your beloved kernel
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] e.r.e.d:
thank you man, you're very helpfull
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Pjaswani023:
You did it...huge thanks man.

P.S. Told you icecold 4.2 was better than 5.3.

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Havoc 2.5 build 19-05. It is based on oreo firmware so flash accordingly.

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Whoa man, easy. You do realize we are talking about "best kernel for HAVOC-OS", since all the test are done on havoc, not any other rom. So, I won't go ahead & call it spamming. Anyhoo, peace. :angel:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Kousei Arima:
Hey guys, I have a 18W adapter from xiaomi, can i use it for my whyred/violet/mi a1? with their respective in box cables? All run havoc OS
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] jadeisok:
Is it okay to flash a older firmware for the oreo havoc? I'm on China 10.3.4 and I want to go to 10.3.1 oreo global
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Kousei Arima:
Yes its alright, u can switch firmwares anytime without problems, just make sure recovery n rom support that
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] kemdroid:
Damn. Your'e a collector. Should be fine.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Kousei Arima:
lol.. Bro all 3 not mine, whyred =mine, violet =dad's, mi a1 =mom's, Infact my grandparents n uncle aunty too got xiaomi phones ??, but i can only install custom roms in the phones i get to use regularly xD

Thanks tho for clarifying
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] kubulwg:
Which firmware version is recommended for 2.8? Stable or dev?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Kousei Arima:
try Chinese dev latest
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Crimson Cardin:
Hey we're can I find the hidden apps I lost the app and can't find it now
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
It depends on your app launcher.

With Nova Launcher:

- Long tap on the screen background

- "Widgets"

- "Nova Launcher"

- "Application or directory" -> Drag to a free place on the main screen

- Check the app you need a shortcut to in the list

- "Add"
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] OmnioPT:
Sorry. Didn't see this.

Download the kernel file and flash it normally through your recovery.

Then wipe cache and dalvik and reboot.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] lvnatic:
What's up with the recent stuttering on scrolling and the deep sleeps where the screen won't turn on?

I've been using this rom on my whyred and clover since more then 5 months and everything was working perfectly, but with the latest version scrolling seems to be laggy and I'm having some issues waking the phone. If someone's calling the screen remains off and if I try to turn it on it usually doesn't work or takes a lot of time to respond.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
Perhaps you should give a try to the firmware Global 10.3.2 and the kernel PureCaf X9 (the normal version, not the AES).

I run with custom kernels since several Havoc versions and I've never got the issues you talk about.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] kemdroid:
Okay awesome. Sounds like a Mi Family:laugh:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] ali.dilshad18:
Hey i am also facing the deep sleep issue where the screen won't turn on and I need to manually unlock by pressing power button. I am already using kangaroox kernel. Hope someone has solution for this.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] mondalr954@gmail.com:
I love this rom other than any rom..but the only and one important thing missing in this room is miui screen recorder..or you can add any other screen recorder with internal sound recording...plsss add this..and this room will be fully complete
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] ManuD_Linux:
Hello,

I've got the "global 10.3.1" firmware, I can't find the 10.3.2 version. Has someone got a link to download the ZIP of this fw ?

Thanks by advance, sincerely,

Manu D.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] orangpelupa:
does Viper4Android works reliably in this rom? I used AOSP Extended and it randomly "driver not installed" and now i cant even use it.

-> viper4android https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.pittvandewitt.viperfx
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Kousei Arima:
works, install via magisk as system app
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
Here you go: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/firmware/whyred/
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] ManuD_Linux:
Oh, thank you very much, I didn't know this site. I add it to my bookmarks... Thanks :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] orangpelupa:
thankyou, how to install via magisk as system app? the installer didnt provide any option to me
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Kousei Arima:
just search in magisk module downloads for viper, dwld it, when u install, i guess its the last prompt that asks u whether u want to install as system or user app
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] blackList90:
Hi! Sorry for bad english XD ... Some month ago I flash Havoc 2.5 ( date 27/05/2019 Oreo Based ) ... now i want to try this ... I have read the previous discussion but before making mistakes I want to known if these are the right steps to do :

1) install a new Recovery ( pie supported ) ... Now i'm on TWRP 3.3.1.0 so I have to flash pitchblack or orange fox which do you recommend?

2) Install pie firmware ... MIUI stable V10.3.1.0.PEIMIXM in my case since my phone is a global version ... Right??

3) Do I have to restart the device or can I flash the new version of the Havoc rom ??

4)Install Havoc Pie based

5) Flash Gapps

6) Reboot and Enjoy

Thanks for your help
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
This choice is mainly a matter of personal taste.

Mine goes for PitchBlack.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] soulstormfan:
V4a legacy works just perfect. Dunno why and how but havoc is perfect rom for viper
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
Same here, it works perfectly with just one flaw: Google Protect kept whining that Viper is malevolent, so much that I ended up disabling it.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] kemdroid:
Use the XHifi magisk module
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] nikhiler47:
my qstn is abit off topic. Why do u prefer pitch black over orange fox? I have been doing research abt pie fw and still haven't flashed it yet(due to my work schedule). I'm planning to do it in a week time. So a bit confused aftr reading your comment. I was recommended orange fox by a fellow member and i was gonna use it.

(if it is a problem to discuss this matter here, can u kindly dm me?)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Lermite:
Its because of a bad experience with it.

An attempt to uninstall Magisk ended up to a boot loop.

As I had a backup made with OrangeFox R9, its restore should have solve the issue but it didn't. I had to wipe everything and install everything back from scratch, which made me loose a significant amount of data.

Since, I could test successfully the restore from RedWolf and PitchBlack and that's why I stick to PitchBlack now.

Off course, my backup from OrangeFox was probably not complete enough because I now choose to backup the partitions image instead of their content only, but I don't dare to try OrangeFox anyway.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] nikhiler47:
I'm on oreo fw. So i jst install latest pitch black recovery, then pie fw and can flash the pie fw based roms. thats it?