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[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Have you noticed any changes in Beta 3? I have a new device on the latest Q May patch with DSSS working with Fi and Verizon. Would love to try this if it's now stable. I know you had luck with it in the past so just curious.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
I havent messed with it yet to be honest, but I don't hold out much hope for it working 100%.

Calls worked previously, but SMS did not, not really expecting that to change, for some reason.

I will try in a bit, and report back.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] calxk713:
It seems like they might've removed the ability to activate it from beta 3. Going through the settings menu and using the dialer codes wouldn't show the options to enable it
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
Well,

it works.....better.

Sending SMS works 100% from the number I choose, but I seem to not always get new or replies, even with Fi set for primary SMS.

Messages app doesn't also seem to respect that I have Fi as default and will still use ATT if that was what the previous message in the thread was from. I have to manually select Fi if I want to use it.

So it is coming along, but still not seemless as it should be.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Saw this thread, maybe it will help? https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...bile/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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Do you remember the exact steps you took to get it enabled? Sometimes it seems people make it more complicated than it should be.

edit: If you had it enabled on DP2 it should still work. I think the menu options have changed/moved to a different area if in fact it still remains.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] stilltli:
I updated to beta 4 and my esim is now deactivated. If I try to activate it it tells me that this deactivates the physical sim.

It worked for me in beta 2 and kept working in beta 3. But now it's gone.

It was fun while it lasted. I just don't understand why this is not a standard function even if the hardware supported it perfectly fine.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] wwwryan:
Thanks for this information. Exactly what I was looking for. I'll be staying in beta 3 for now I guess.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
sigh......
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
I'm seeing this across the board. I traded my 5X for a 3a and it has 2 IMEIs unlike what we have now on the 3 / XL. It's deprecated on this device and will not come back. The Pixel 3a and 3a XL have DSDS active at this time. Yes, it's a damn shame but I'll hold it until the 4 comes out.

Sorry buddy, you've been a good tester. Thanks.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Topper59:
what are the chances we could revert back to beta 2/3 and get DSDS back lol
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
if you have the factory images for either, should be possible.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
It's a losing proposition. Not worth the effort.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] kaiseryeahhh:
Hello, I have a pixel 3 xl with android 9 and an e-sim card and a physical sim (from work) and I know that with android 9 I have to activate and deactivate the sim to use the one I need at all times.

Is there a widget to make this change faster?

Or in its defect, is there a widget that tells you in real time the phone number you're using?

Thank you.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] boe323:
Hi can you tell me what version this please and does have ESIM?, im purchasing a refurb unlocked so have no idea if esim is installed, model number GA00470-GB. SKU: GA00470-GB-GA-MGNL. Sorry for posting randomly.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
First two digits of the IMEI please. 35 no esim, 99 yes.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] boe323:
Recieved it today and as got esim, its pristine, but as no box or headphones or charger, im not concerned about it, im just so happy its pristine condition.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] JujuYuki:
To anyone wondering: using the new Magisk canary builds to root the Pixel 3 XL, then setting persist.vendor.radio.multisim_switch_support to true with adb and rebooting allows to re-enable dsds, but it doesn't seem to work as well as in betas 2 and 3 sadly.

I've been able to send and receive messages and calls from both sim and esim, but switching the data connection to sim #2 (physical sim in my case) doesn't seem to properly work (the sim is enabled for data, but never actually connects to data). Using my esim for data works good enough though, when the phone is willing to connect to 4G instead of H+.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] calxk713:
I've done that too. So far for me, it's all been working correctly with LTE on both.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] i42o:
what was the exact command you issued thru adb? thank you.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] JujuYuki:
got in the shell with adb shell, then got root rights (you need to be rooted obviously) with su, and then setprop persist.vendor.radio.multisim_switch_support true. You can probably do it in one command but I'm not used to execute things like that too often so I usually go the "long" route.

Once you did that, exit the shell with exit twice, reboot the phone, and go try to activate the sim that is not activated currently in the settings (not add a new sim, activate the second one), and it will prompt to activate dsds, and reboot with dsds activated if you agree.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] kaiseryeahhh:
Hello, testing now in beta 5, it doesn't leave DSDS either, what I don't understand is if there was a beta that supported it, why have you removed it?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] JujuYuki:
They most certainly removed it because the device has only one imei, and registering 2 numbers at the same time with the same imei might trigger some warning or banning procedure with some operators in some parts of the world or something?

Just a hunch, I've read here and there that some operators used to check for duplicate imei registration to detect theft or impersonation, so that could be why. Also I know that at least here in the UK, the police uses imei for tracing phones that have been confirmed to be involved in a crime scene, so having the imei twice at the same time might be problematic in that instance?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] PeQuEsan:
In the scenario I'll face when I switch to Q final, where I want to use DSDS (with this hack, thanks a lot for it) with two eSIM/SIM from SAME operator (home and work numbers)... do you think that having only 1 IMEI could prevent it from working correctly? What are your thoughs about this?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] darkghost柚:
Anyone who can give me a magisk peached boot.img for pixel3 xl on q beta5

I flash my own magisk boot.img

But failed everytimes

I want to use China-net by magisk
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] GryphonBR:
It'd be just speculation from anyone here. That depends exclusively on how the operator handles this, and then on whether Google will allow DSDS on Q final.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Supermanpa:
Using the command to active the dual SIM and everything is working perfect for me. Thank you very much! FYI I am using an esim on Google fi and a Sim card from Verizon.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] GryphonBR:
Seems like Google patched this workaround for the Pixel 3 XL; on beta 5, I was able to use both eSIM and regular SIM, but now on beta 6 enabling this simply makes my regular SIM disappear completely from the Settings menu.

Should anyone be able to change this behaviour somehow, I'd be most interested in testing it out; for the time being, I'll just try and revert back to beta 5.

EXTRA INFORMATION FOR PIXEL 3/3 XL owners: I haven't been able to revert back to beta 5 (smart me forgot to take a backup), so I'd advise those who want to keep dual SIM on these devices to stir away from beta 6 for the time being.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] JujuYuki:
Yes we've known that from the start (stated it in a few other threads already. That is due to the fact they removed the imei duplication, so the second sim slot is active (and bound to physical sim), but with no imei, making it unable to correctly initialise, and as such unable to connect to the network. We're back to single sim mode until someone finds a way to either re-enable imei duplication or add a second imei to the phone (which is not legal afaik)
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] lssong99:
Where is this imei copying thing located...? Radio or just some system file? If it's in system file someone maybe able to come up with a mod....
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] JujuYuki:
Not radio, as replacing with older radio didn't fix it for the one person that tried it. Someone would need to know where it was and when in the boot process it happened to be able to make such a mod, it's basically the same as changing the imei...
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] tauio111:
Honestly, it could be anywhere. We now know that flashing the old radio does not help.

It could be inside the vendor image. Could be the kernel or could be some RIL package inside the system img (TelephonyManager)
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Donric13:
I think kernel could be easy to test. Just try to boot the device with qp5 kernel. If it boots we gonna see the result.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Doesn't dual sim single active DSSA still work? That's a manual switch but still both are available, you just can't receive calls on either line while idle.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
yes, it still works fine.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] lssong99:
DSSA still works... However for people of this part of world, as well as who travel to foreign country frequently, DSDS is becoming a must, not something good to have....

I had a business trip last week in India and DSDS (Qb5) really make my life much easier while on road....
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
There is no doubt that DSDS is fast becoming de rigueur in the mobile market, I completely agree. However, the Pixel 3 / XL was never designed for DSDS but merely DSSA probably due to the single IMEI. They tested it on a beta or two, could get it to work and then abandoned it. Not sure why but it could have been carriers complaining. The 3a / XL will work as soon as Q is released with no root needed. Unfortunately, Google was slightly behind the 8 ball with the Pixel 3 since the iPhone had it at the beginning of the year. They missed the dual IMEI thing by just a few months. So I think at this point it's either live with it (single active) or trade it in when the P4 comes out or switch to the A series. I have both right now just waiting for the Q release party. Once I go DSDS on that the P3 is relegated to trade-in value.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] GryphonBR:
Partially agreed, because older phones with dual SIM and single IMEI already managed to use DSDS in the past (I have a Xiaomi phone from a couple of years back that was exactly like that). For all I care, Google could simply have kept the behavior of Q5 available, since only a minority of users would end up using it anyway.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
How did that work? Was it an eSim plus a physical sim? As for DSDS I think there are more people than you think that will use it. There is a lot of discussion since 2 phone numbers are not rare any longer. It's nice to have one device that can handle both and ring either one while on standby. I don't know what happened since Q5 but no one is saying yet. And now even with root it can't be done. Darn shame Google.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] GryphonBR:
Nope, two physical SIMs. This is from back in 2016, give or take. And indeed, many people would want to, but turns out that even on Q5 you'd need root and the knowledge of how to do it, so I think we can agree this wouldn't be trivial to most Android users in general.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] lssong99:
Yes.... I agreed just leave as it is for Q5 is fine. Anyway Pixel 3 (XL) is (sadly) not a major player in this field and this added adb thing does create another barrier....

One IMEI for two SIM is not new... It exists ages ago...
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
I'm not sure how long you want to stay on Beta 5 especially with monthly security updates and the release in September. But that's entirely your call if DSDS means that much to you.

Now I'm curious. Which phones used 2 sims and one IMEI and also had DSDS? Are they still available? And was the second sim an eSim or physical sim? If the latter you'd need a phone that took 2 sims that could be on standby and take a call on either one. I've not seen a phone currently that can do that, but I'd love to.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] lssong99:
For me DSDS is important but I can still live without it ... It's a very convenient to have during travel as well as some special situations (difficult to explain, it's related to China's internet eco system...)

For single imei I don't have those phone list but some Chinese made phones has this capability as mentioned previous post by someone. Anyway what I want to say is DSDS is becoming a more and more important...
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] GryphonBR:
Since eSIM isn't something that has been around for very long, then you might simply assume that the phones we're referring to are all dual physical SIM ones. As I mentioned, my factory dual SIM Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro had DSDS with a single SIM, and I also happen to have a converted Huawei P10 Plus (it used to be single SIM, but it's now a DSDS phone with single IMEI).

Edit: just tried flashing Q5's radio onto my 3XL, but still that didn't get me DSDS back (yeah, I know I was being too optimistic, but it doesn't hurt to try).
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
I did assume that the phone was dual physical sim but I just wanted to be sure since I'm not privy to Chinese technology. I'll also assume you meant your Note 3 Pro was DSDS with a single IMEI and not a single sim. But you still didn't clarify how it worked. Were you able to choose the data sim and have both on standby? What would happen if a call came through on one, would the other become inactive entirely? I think dual sim phones with a single IMEI is a far cry from eSim technology. That's why you don't see single IMEI eSim phones that are DSDS. Single active yes, since you need to actually go in to change the active sim and thereby register the IMEI with the carrier.

I'm sure the carriers complained to Google about the hack and thus removed it from future builds including root buildprop modifications. I could be wrong though, they might have just wanted to push the newer devices with dual IMEI. The iPhone had it right from the beginning I don't know why Google didn't figure that out last year.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] GryphonBR:
Ops, you're right, I did mean single IMEI there. I haven't used that phone in, like, forever, but if I recall correctly there were a couple of drawbacks: LTE was only available on SIM 1 (with SIM 2 being restricted to HSPA), I was indeed able to define which SIM was dedicated to data (not sure how it worked for calls and SMS) and, if memory serves, one SIM would become unavailable if the other received a call - which, essentially, is the whole idea behind DSDS. And, truth be told, eSIM is just a simplification for SIM, so it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with dual SIM per se - at the end of the day, you could perfectly have a no SIM phone with only eSIM functionality, or a dual SIM phone that also supported eSIM, and either of these could be DSDS, DSDA or even DSSA (technically speaking, as a matter of fact, most eSIM-capable phones shouldn't even be called DS, since on my currently handicapped 3XL I could still add a couple of other eSIM but only one would be available at any given time, as we already know - meaning the 3XL is more multiSIM than DS, at the end of the day).
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] ma678:
Too bad I just got a 3xl and found the sad fact it doesn't support dsds. Shame on me not doing homework before purchase. Maybe time to sell it soon.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] nashi20002003:
I debranded Oneplus 6T from Tmobile to the one sold directly from Oneplus Web site in the USA by flashing.

After that the second SIM was enabled and my self and other were able to use DSDS as if it was the non tmobile version. However we all had one IMEI. IMEI would duplicate itself. We did not have any issue connecting to the same network or two different networks. But yes this was not done like that from factory but rather a consequence of debrandind a phone with single IMEI to behave like it's sister version which comes with two IMEI.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Phen0m:
Does DSSA and carrier roaming with FI work on custom roms?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] SGH-i200:
Did you already upgrade to Android 10 and check the Dual SIM feature on the 3 and 3a?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] kaiseryeahhh:
Pixel 3 XL, NO DSDS

:(
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] JujuYuki:
Rooted with the old hack as well? Was removed from non-rooted long ago and was never expected to come back. Unable to test the root hack as I went back to Pie and am not updating for a few days/weeks until all my apps are compatible, but I remember it having been broken on beta 6 (and don't really expect it to work again looking at the very small ota from b6 to final, but you never know...)
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] ma678:
3 and 3xl have only one IMEI. There is no way to support dsds officially.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] SGH-i200:
"While Dual SIM Dual Standby (DSDS) was briefly available on the Pixel 3 during the Android Q Beta, Google ultimately removed the functionality. The feature is now official with Android 10, but only on the Pixel 3a and Pixel 3a XL.​" https://9to5google.com/2019/09/03/pixel-3a-dsds-android-10/​
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] ma678:
404, page not found.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] SGH-i200:
If you can't view this site, google the quoted text.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
It doesn't work after beta 5 thus the page was removed.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] jawmail:
Not the aforementioned link above but related.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/4/20849157/pixel-3a-true-dual-sim-support-android-10-google
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] ma678:
It is very interesting that mid tier devices, 3a and 3a xl have dual Sims while 3 and 3 xl only have one SIM. Google like to boost sales for these little brothers.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Lol. The P3 came out months earlier when dsds was in it's infancy in the US. They could get it to work but the single IMEI caused problems for the carriers I believe. It was later on that the iPhone, released the same time as the P3, which had two IMEI, became the trendsetter on Verizon with dsds. They had it in January with the new iOS.

The 3a was intended for the mid range market but it came out late enough to take possible advantage of the dual SIM market. That happened yesterday. So I really don't believe it was intended to sell more phones for dsds but the timing was good. From now on all devices from Google will have two IMEI.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] GryphonBR:
Don't get me wrong, but so far there's no confirmation that all devices from Google will now have two IMEIs. Also, just for information, but having a single IMEI would cause no inconvenience for carriers unless the same phone has two SIMs from the same operator (which might have been the case in the US with Fi and TMo and/or Sprint - and most likely the reason why dual SIM functionality was removed altogether from the P3(XL) also). One more thing: two SIMs (essentially, two numbers) under the same IMEI for the same operator don't necessarily cause any trouble, it's more of a policy to simplify the operator's daily operations in regards to possible IMEI cloning and the likes of this.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] wwwryan:
I know that some had DSDS working again via root on the later Pixel 3 betas. Does anyone know if this works on Android 10 official? I'd love to get of beta 3 and upgrade to stable but keep DSDS.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] ma678:
I believe Google removed dsds from Android 10 on 3 and 3xl.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] wwwryan:
I know it's officially gone but several people had it working through a workaround on the later betas with root but I believe even that is broken now.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] JujuYuki:
It has been completely removed from Beta 6, and so the final release doesn't have it either at all. Forget it or buy an officially compatible phone. :(
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Valiante:
So this thread is now dead?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] boe323:
I guess its dead, it was only there because of the pixel 3a and 3axl, wasnt intended for the pixel3 or pixel3xl. Because google was beta testing they let it run on the pixel3 and pixel3xl to mearly collect errors and performance data.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] CrunchMilk:
Since the functionality should still be present, wouldn't it be possible to find the necessary patches to make it work again?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] Valiante:
So aside from DSDS, is there a way to set a data esim and physical talk/text sim?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
No.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] optionalmgrr.la:
So DSDS is dead-end on Pixel 3 XL right? thx
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
As a doornail. Unfortunately you are correct.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] optionalmgrr.la:
Even with root?
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Even with root. It did work for a while but it's been disabled.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] nashi20002003:
Trade for pixel 4. Now Verizon supports DSDS with pixel 4. Too little too late but better late than never. this gives hope that PIXEL 4a my come out with DSDS on VERIZON. NO more bs by disabling the physically the chip inside and official support equal to iphone.

https://9to5google.com/2020/04/17/pixel-4-verizon-esim/

https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/google-pixel-4-update/
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Right now it's a pretty arcane process and it really shouldn't be. I'd like to see some who tried it with calling a tech support person (needed) and had it seamlessly work. I also am going to call them tomorrow to see if I can have 2 Verizon phone numbers (one eSim and one physical) on the same device. It shouldn't be an issue but with Verizon you never know. I have a Google P4 not the VZW version so it's been working all along with Fi as an eSim.

edit: Just realized this was the 3XL forum not the P4 / XL. The Pixel 3s do not work at all with DSDS and only the Google / Fi version have DSSA (single active) where you can switch active sim between eSim and physical. Yes, [MENTION=2411327]nashi20002003[/MENTION] a trade up to a P4a would be a good upgrade imo.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] tienbuiduy:
[Done] I'm using pixel 3 XL in android Q beta 5 with magisk and root access, when I tried to run setprop persist.vendor.radio.multisim_switch_support true , my device prompt request root but it closed so fast before I can allow. Trying to run command again but there is no more promt. How should I do to get root when run this command? thanks in advance
[Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers] billyt1:
You can type su before hand so it already got root access. Also go into magisk make sure it didn't deny access to shell. But I'd be careful P3's only got one IMEI an you could potentially have your IMEI blocked by it being on 2 networks at same time.