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[Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion] acidspider:
help please

i am on fresh bootloader unlocked December update

twrp states slot a

flash magisk 18.zip i end up on google loading page then phone reboots back to twrp

only way i can get to boot is to flash twrp again and phone boots normally

when phone boots i installed magisk manager still states not installed

Should I switch slots before installing magisk?

any help greatly appreciated
[Moto G5 Questions & Answers] Dylan2232:
Thinking of replacing my Huawei Y5 (2017) MYA-L22 with a Moto G5. The only reason being that my Huawei keeps killing background apps, making multitasking and switching between apps very frustrating. More details here.

So my concern now is, will the G5 do the same thing or not?

Those who use is or have used it...please chime in.
[Moto G5 Questions & Answers] riyan65:
I never experienced any problem like this you can multitask till your ram is free, after it get filled reloading took place. I think You can go for this without any problem.
[Moto G5 Questions & Answers] Zisjman:
G5 has 3GB of RAM , where your Y5 only has 2GB.

This means that the G5 will kill background apps later than your Y5 and should give a somewhat better user experience in that field.

Also, the fact that the G5 has 8 cores compared to 4 on Y5 might help.

You should however wonder if it's opportune to buy the G5, as it is currently struggling to get Oreo, which will be its last upgrade.

There also doesn't seem to be a lot of custom ROM activity for this device.
[Moto G5 Questions & Answers] Dylan2232:
[MENTION=1330229]sven@xki[/MENTION]...

I'm looking into getting the 16GB G5, which will be 2GB RAM just like the Y5. It's for $105 US. Can you recommend a better phone at that price?
[Moto G5 Questions & Answers] Zisjman:
In that price range I don't think you'll find anything significantly better (unless you're willing to import from China).

I'm not sure however that the 2GB version will significantly improve your multitasking experience over the Y5.

On your Y5, have you checked the background process limit setting in the developer options?

Maybe Huawei limits these for some reason and changing the value could change your experience.
[Moto G5 Questions & Answers] Dylan2232:
You know what, running out of options to try out, i've kept on going back to that option over and over again, every time realizing that it is actually on "standard limit", hence not the problem. Let me put it at "4" and see what happens...although logically its supposed to be worst now. But heck, it's worth a try.
[Moto G5 Questions & Answers] ahmedAZ:
With 3 Giga ram and pure android you will have a significant multitasking at this price range

I bought moto g5 for this reason

I don't care about updates

After some time we will have good roms as oreo source is released
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MArtyChubbs:
Love to hear a p2xl to p3xl upgrade story.

P2xl with a great display and some new features? I am in. Love my current p2xl and since it was a later build, the screen isn't bad, but an Samsung like display would be wicked!
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dmb219:
I hope there is a dedicated notch complaint thread. The notch hate has been way worse than the notch. If you hate the phone you should 1. not buy it, and 2. spare those in a discussion forum from comments about how ugly it is. We got that. Anyone who has even occasionally read about the new Pixel has had a lifetime quota of notch hate bestowed upon them. I'm looking forward to the phone.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] gettinwicked:
The pixel 2 xl is hands down the best phone I've ever had. I still love it. I will love the 3 xl. But, after people start getting their phones next week, be ready for at least a couple months of bull**** hate threads and posts. It's coming and most of us will be unbelievably tired of hearing the same thing over and over. And many of us will say exactly what you said, then get **** talked for saying it. Just be ready to ignore a lot of BS. It happens every time. For whatever reason people love to hate and troll and argue. In the end, it will stop and everyone will love the phone. It was exactly that with the 2 xl. It's soooo dumb.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MArtyChubbs:
Better sound, better display and hopefully better battery life? Those are the most important things to me. Once it can be rooted, I am in.
[Google Pixel 3 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] gettingerr:
Display is much improved, I was okay with my 2 XL display, but this 3 XL is a real treat in that department.

Handles app management better than my 2 XL, with games (Bloons TD6) staying alive longer than previously.

Sound is definitely louder. As with the 2 XL, the bottom speaker is louder, but the front firing is still excellent. At full volume, my device has no distortion. I can't use full volume inside, it'll probably damage my hearing.

Camera is nothing major over the 2 XL, but I haven't given that a full test yet.

The notch, which others talk about first, is more of an afterthought to me. There are a couple places in apps where it doesn't play nice, but all in all, it doesn't bother me one bit.

I do use XDA Gestures. It really brings the screen to life by allowing it all the way to the bottom corners.

Are there other things I could've used $1000 for? Yes, but personally, I'm glad I spent it on the upgrade.

Edit: I'll post some battery stats at the end of the day or tomorrow.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Jucacarvalho1987:
Hey guys,

I was wondering if upgrading worth it. Also my girlfriend wants to buy a pixel and we were waiting on the 3 to see the changes, however for what I've seen I don't think worth the upgrade or buying the pixel 3, pixel 2 still performs perfectly.

My question is, all those feature pixel 3 will have since it's software wise we will have it also in our pixel 2 right ? That smart call, top shot and night mode ?

Also that notch... Ewks...

Anyone have any opinion why I should upgrade to pixel 3 and give this 2xl to my girlfriend or should I just keep it and buy her a pixel 2 instead and keep the money ?

Cheers
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jerryhou85:
I assume the features are all coming to 2/2XL as well. And the notch is a huge deal breaker for me...

I'll skip all notch phones and wait for notch free flagship... maybe in 3 years??? :"P
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Depends on disposable income. You got the bucks get the 3. Give your gal the 2 she'll love it.

That's what I'm doing with the Mrs. If you're strapped for cash keep yours and get her a Pixel 2. Can't go wrong either way.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Pkt_Lnt:
Nope.

https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/

read down to this:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jerryhou85:
Ah... I hate all these manufacturers who release minor features and call it an upgrade...?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] biggiestuff:
Anyone know if the pixel 3 USB port is still incapable of video out?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] galaxys:
No Pixel 3 XL minor spec's for me. Be staying with the Pixel 2 XL which has plenty of updates left in it! :cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] t2jbird:
I grabbed the 3. It's essentially a more ergonomic Pixel 2 XL with a better screen, better front camera(s), wireless charging, IP68, better speakers, and another year of support.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] fiffan86:
OG Pixel to Pixel 2 XL was worth it to me but the Pixel 2 XL to Pixel 3 XL not so much
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jasonc831:
Staying with 2 XL

I'm really tempted to get the 3XL because it's BOGO at verizion but I'm resisting the temptation :). I like the better screen and sound but the 2XL is still a good phone and don't really see a big jump in performance. Plus "some" of the new features will come to the 2XL so I think I'll hold off until next year when it's more of a upgrade.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Deleted member 4960206:
I'm not buying another pixel if they stick to such a huge notch. "Designed by Google" - yeah, no ****. It'll be exact same phone in terms of looks as I'll hide that notch anyway. So a little better screen, speakers, camera ... Wireless charging I don't use anyway, never use it for deep water diving anyway ... Useless.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] t2jbird:
Useless to you. It's all subjective. Try out the OnePlus 6T.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sruel3216:
I ordered the 3 XL cuz I just at like changing phones every year. But I also have a 2 xl and snapped out of zombie mode and cancelled my order. The 2 camera is still amazing. This phone is fast as hell. I like root even if it's not too needed these days. It just didn't seem like an upgrade worth $1000 for.

Oh yeah....and I HATE gesture navigation.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Deeco7:
I don't really see the 'upgrades' with the Pixel 3. All the features announced are pretty much coming the the Pixel 2 and the notch is a real disadvantage, so why bother?

Sticking with my Pixel 2XL for couple of years, still functions flawlessly. Let's see what the Pixel 4 holds...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] galaxys:
What "should" have been the Pixel 3xl... will be the Oneplus 6T!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Kimbo82:
I will not upgrade, I don't see the updates as worth the money. And in general I feel that the pixel phones are overpriced compared to the competition...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] gettinwicked:
I ordered the 3 xl. Since I've been paying more than needed on my payments for my 2 xl, the 3 xl with the stand will be pretty much the same payment. Got it for the better cameras as I use mine a lot, also the wireless charging, and the better screen. I checked one out in a Verizon store, and the notch does NOT look as bad in person either. Though, if any devs make it so you can partially hide it instead of fully, I'll be all over that.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] malek777:
Probably will upgrade but truth is the pixel 3 is a very weak effort by Google. I should probably just call it a lazy attempt. I know some tech YouTubers have been saying that the effort is in the software but at least apple actually did a proper upgrade to their internals and software, not a half baked one .

I'll use it for a week and see how I feel about it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
I see the Pixel 3 an "s" year for the Pixel but better than what Apple's done. Things the Pixel 3 has that the Pixel 2 doesn't have or won't get:

Better processor, screen, speakers, wireless charging, wide angle lens for the front, photobooth, top shot, super res zoom, motion auto focus, lens suggestions for Google Lens, and Titan M security chip.

That's a bigger difference than the iPhone X and the iPhone XS.

That being said, I don't think any phone is worth getting for a yearly update. Getting the latest and greatest on a yearly basis just makes everything incremental and less significant of an upgrade. And going from one 2018 to another 2018 is just a lateral move which is even a bigger waste.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Have you seen the XS? It's amazing. Feels better, looks better, runs better. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. Battery life optimized to where you will drool. I'm not going there but..

Edit.. it's getting close. I'm not rooting these days there are no roms to speak of the. Wear OS is sketchy vs I watch or whatever they call it. Talk me down. I shouldn't have gone into the store and compared. The notch in the iPhone actually looks good. WTF? That being said I'll probably get the pixel 3 on BF. Probably..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] willumpie82:
I don't care so much about the notch, i'll get used to it, the main thing holding me back is the 949€ price tag, it is 100 more than last years XL, I want to see what upgrades my 2XL gets before. (with or without side loading). but the despite the little spec bumb (bit faster CPU, much faster flash, and camera upgrades) it is still tempting to drive to Saturn in germany next month to get one.

The upcoming oneplus 6T is also interesting (best notch solution by far), but i don't think it will ever beat the pixel w.r.t. camera and android updates. The new pixel will be available around November 2nd in germany, so just days after the release event of OP6t
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] uicnren:
hmmmmm

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...tery-life-price-cost-upgrade-xr/#68dc139c3e1a
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Lol. Well I just have to say in real world scenarios.. Both my kids have iPhone 8s (not the max one) and they go all day and night without a charge even remotely necessary. And you know how kids use phones.. constantly. Instagram (battery hog), FB, streaming all day, notifications, texting, pictures.. I mean my Pixel 2 would drop dead well before they hit 50%. The Forbes article was interesting I'll see if I can find corroborating evidence. Needless to say I'm not getting the XS for a grand, period. I'm just saying if you have the money and the inclination it's definitely worth it to go and check out the device at a store.

There was a video of some tech guy comparing notches on various devices (some famous dude I think) and he said the first thing your eye goes to on the Pixel 3 XL is the notch. Showed other Android notches way smaller and less obtrusive. He didn't show the XS but I saw it in a Verizon store. It's almost like "what notch?" Now I'm sure you'd get used to it and now there are ways to either hide it or make it continuous across the whole screen. But I'm thinking at this point they dropped the ball on the XL. But time will tell and I could be way off base, it's happened before. But take a look at the XS and the XS Max, hands on and tell me what you think.

edit: I guess you can find anything on the web these days. https://bgr.com/2018/09/26/iphone-xs-max-battery-life-test-vs-iphone-xs-galaxy-note-9-iphone-x/
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] uicnren:
Well, all I can go by is my real world experience. My wife has XS, she has had no battery issues herself. I have 2 XL, and have no battery issues myself. Both of us go all day without needing any charge. My younger daughter also has 2 XL and does all the kid stuff and will rarely have to charge later in the evening. My older daughter has an 8+ same scenario, rarely does she need to charge after a long day of use, but does now and then.

As for the article, as long as there were no shenanigans, it clearly shows in a controlled environment there seems to be 'problems'. Now in the real world that may not be an issue at all.

Yes, the notch on 3 Xl is big, especially compared to the iPhone. They both are probably pretty close in terms of actual surface area, but the shape of each makes a clear difference in favor of iPhone (in my opinion).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Guyinlaca:
I had the Verizon Pixel 2 XL as my work phone and have been disappointed with performance after Pie. I was considering getting the 3 XL but the notch, paired with 4 GB RAM and the price deterred me. Instead I traded the Pixel 2 XL for a V35 ThinQ. It has a much better screen, Snapdragon 845, 6 GB RAM, a headphone jack, microSD card support, and full theme engine without root.

Maybe once the Pixel 3 XL's go down in price they'll be worth it, but for now I'd stay on the Pixel 2 XL or look at a Note 9 or V35 ThinQ. Also having the Note 9 as my personal phone, I can say it's the best phone out right now. I love stock Android but Samsung has created near perfection.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Very similar situations although your family goes for the larger devices whereas mine doesn't go with the max, plus or xl. I'm waiting for black Friday to see what kind of deal I can get on the Pixel 3. I've seen the battery degrade rather severely on the Pixel 2 I now have and I am considering bringing it in to replace it with an new OEM. I have a crack on the back upper glass and will get that replaced at the same time. I just don't think I can go with the larger device, it's doesn't fit in my running shorts or biking saddle bag. Funny little story, I originally had the Pixel XL for about a week. It just felt huge but I went with it. Showed it to my daughter and she was like, "Holy $#@% what is that monstrosity?" needless to say I returned it the next day for the smaller one. But one thing I did notice in the week I had it was that the battery was amazing. Way better than the smaller phone. That is why I'm considering the XS. Verizon killed rooting but I don't know if I can be without Android.

I went into the store to see the Pixel 3 and the 3XL. Then the sales guy said have you seen the XS and the XS Max? No but I'll look. Yikes, I could hardly take my eyes off the display and the feel of the device was great. Big mistake on my part. lol Anyway BF will be the telling day. If I can get half off like last year with no trade in on the 3 then I'll do it in a heartbeat and gift the 2 to my wife with the new battery. If they give half off the XS and make it $500 vs $400 for the 3 then I'm in a pickle.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
I have seen and used it. Are you comparing the XS (Non-max) to the X? Because it's hardly an upgrade and barely a difference. The Pixel 3 compared to the Pixel 2 has more upgrades and differences. And about battery life, the XS Max lost to the Note 9 in PhoneBuff's very thorough battery test.

https://youtu.be/RF6-eLoNwZQ
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Guyinlaca:
With regards to the notch, it's not its existence that's the problem, but the way the software deals with it. YouTube videos either have a chunk of the video covered in that space or crop both sides to fit beneath it. In most Google apps, bright white pages really make the notch stand out. Perhaps a dark theme will hide it better. It really is wasted screen real estate. Sure there are mods to put a black bar there or move the status bar but there is no "standard" approach yet. That 6.3 inch Pixel 3 XL screen is essentially a Pixel 2 XL screen with side tabs.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
I was just comparing it to my Pixel 2 and in a round about way the new Pixel 3. They were attached to the displays so I couldn't do a side by side exactly except for the phone I had. I've not seen an iPhone X so I can't say. I just know that the iPhone 8 (small version) never seems to run out of battery whereas my Pixel 2 is a dog. I'm going to replace the battery today with a new OEM so I'll see if that helps. I'll be doing a factory reset in the near future and perhaps that will help too. But the display and the feel of the XS was just astounding. And the notch seemed non-existent. I'll be getting the Pixel 3 on BF unless... lol

I just don't like the Apple OS although I suppose if you can get used to the notch I can get used to Apple OS. :angel: Full disclosure, I have a 6s on a secondary line that I rarely use. It's running the latest update 12 but I just am not thrilled with the navigation. Display is great and feel incredible but.. well it's Apple.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] chazall1:
Going to skip this one. Its my first skip sense Nexus 4.

Going to wait for a new 5 g pixel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] essy670:
Same. 5G is a big upgrade. My pixel 2xl still in mint condish and running fine... I've been upgrading yearly for 10 years, first time I don't feel the need...the need for speed... Soz.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
How much and where? My battery is fine but just curious if it starts going bad or I can do it when I have this as a backup phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
I went into ubreakifix and the cost is 80 bucks.. I bailed on it for now. I have to see what's up with my keyboard missing keystrokes lately. If they won't send a refurbished then I'll spring for it. Not sure it warrants a return since I really like my device and I worry about refurbs. But I thought 80 was reasonable.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ossito2012:
I am done with Pixels, the sound is just not that great and recent update to Pie has broken the use of Dolby Atmos mods, price is not worth superior picture quality.

I am thinking the OnePlus 6T or the LG G40, both will be the phones that offer the best overall features.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] gettinwicked:
FYI, the new 3's, including the xl use a Samsung screen. https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-xl-oled-display/

That, plus wireless charging, plus better camera's, plus better speakers, plus being able to hide the notch, including apps that allow partially hiding it = definitely happy I upgraded. Oh, and my payments will be nearly the same. Very happy now. And excited for it coming tomorrow.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Bwyan Benton:
Lol the update to pie broke "mods" is the best you can come up with? Tell the dev to fix his crap, don't blame Google for updating their phones.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sruel3216:
Been on all the google phones for year. I have a pixel 2xl right now and preordered the 3xl the day it came out. That day i cancelled my order also. the upgrade from the 2 to 3 is not much at all. My pixel 2 xl kills off my apps so fast i hate it, im sure the 3 will be the same. I decided to switch it up for the first time and i ordered a note 9. Im excited to try something new
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Cristiano Matos:
I'll only update, but no so sure yet, if camera features will not come for pixel 2 XL. Google did a great job on creating a phone with a worse notch unil now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Grizonic:
Joaquim... Honestly what you should do is to go out there, buy the pixel 3 and offer your 2xl to your twin brother.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Pkt_Lnt:
Something to consider for those DIY battery replacers, either now or in the future.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Google+Pixel+3+XL+Teardown/113656
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ossito2012:
you funny, after reading a bunch of your previous post in XDA, you love to throw shade, I will be nice though and send you a hug lol I did not type "Google's fault or anything like that", I can always take my phone back to Oreo, and make my Pixel 2 XL a monster phone with killer audio, kernel, and badass camera, at his point after "I CHOSE TO UPGRADE", my only enjoyment is coming from the Camera now.

Thinking from a $$$ point of view, comes down to one super feature or a bunch of great features that I want in a phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] 12Fully:
Is anyone who is trading in their Pixel 2 for the 3 re-locking the bootloader?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] galaxys:
I didn't last year. The only requirement was a factory reset...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Bwyan Benton:
Do all the little investigating you want lol, whatever floats your boat. I call it like I see it. You simply state you're done with pixels and your first reason is because the pie update broke "mods" as if that Googles fault. Or pixels in general. That's sad.

But I've said what I needed to say and I'll carry on now.

Have a nice day sir.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ossito2012:
hahahaahha
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jmartin72:
My Pixel 3 XL arrives tomorrow from Google
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Guyinlaca:
It will be nice to get some real world reviews. The teardown shows it has a Samsung screen, so that's a good start. The pre-release reviews so far only talk about the camera.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
People have mentioned the improved screen: The Verge, Austin Evans, Erica Griffin, and others.