yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Miko2007:
No Root needed for Ad Blocking. Just use Blokada. Im using it on my P20 Pro without Root and it works great.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] m00h:
It's not the same. Most of the non-root blocking apps setup a simulated VPN connection and pass the dns requests through it to block all requests to the ad-domains.

It isn't working that way for certain apps that include ads (MX player for example), and it's way slower than a modified hosts file. Also battery drain is way higher.

If you're about to only block ads for webbrowsing, one may use Firefox with ublock on android.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] MightyBenjamin:
Thanks for confirming it! I'll also buy a key from them at the end of the month :D
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] otonieru:
Earlier would be better i guess. LoL
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ducted:
I purchased mine today and received it after three hours only. I contacted him via email.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] soza971:
What's your version of build and which one did u purchase?!?!
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ducted:
Hi, my device is the P20 Pro, CLT-L09 and I have the v8.1.0.156(C432patch03)

I purchased the unlock code from ministryofsolutions.com
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] poy:
when buying from ministryofsolutions.com do you just provide imei? no need to install software ie. teamviewer etc...
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ereniemis:
You provide both IMEI (on dual sim) and serial number (SN). They sent be the unlock code after like 6 hours...
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mrcaligula:
If you give MOS the IMEI , could they do something shady with your phone ? :D I guess they are experts/developers.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] otonieru:
worst case related to imei is imei cloning of course,

but i dont think they would be stupid enough to do so
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ..::Mobile Smoker::..:
you can get from me at 25$ all types of security even google nexus supported

& in 25$ you will get unlock code, bootloader unlock code & FRP reset key

time 1 to 2 minutes
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] m00h:
They will use it to keep your device under surveillance and will make some screenshots and shoot some pictures of the front and back cameras as soon as you visit some naughty websites.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Turbojugend:
How did you pay? Paypal?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ducted:
Hi, yes he sent me his paypal.me address. I paid 30 eur for his unlock bootloader code service + 1.90 eur in PayPal fees. Everything went fine, my code is right and my bootloader is unlocked. I did it yesterday as soon as I received the code, today I received a new firmware upgrade via OTA from Huawei: CLT-L09 v8.1.0.157(C432) and the bootloader has not been forced to relock nor anything. That was one if my concerns about unlocking the bootloader using anything else not providing officially by Huawei. :cool:

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Hi, I just sent him the IMEI, no SN was needed nor anything else. I received my unlock code via email.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Kaot93:
I was finally courageous enough to get my code. Took me 20 minutes and i received it via Mail and over the live chat on the website.

Very uncomplicated an easy solution. Payment via PayPal wasn't a problem either.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] soza971:
Anyone with mate 10 pro with recent build tried ministryofsolutions?!?! Does it really work??

Envoyé de mon BLA-L29 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] thor151:
Hello, you know if the warranty is lost in the event of a breakdown
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] maddoguk:
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Saying that I would never buy a Huawei phone again. Back to OnePlus.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] patrikbrann:
I tried this one today.

Contacted them via chat due to the pay-button is not working.

From my payment was done, I got the code about 15min later.

Unlock worked like a charm!

...thou I was not reading the warning enough so my phone wipe the **** out itself :<
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] foreman31:
Took 5 minutes to get the code, a few minutes to unlock, now at setup screen with unlocked bootloader, Hallelyah!

Thanks everybody for the info
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mrcaligula:
Good for you . I am considering to unlock too. But I think 30 Euros is frightening :D
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ZybSter:
Unlock Huawei Mate 20 Pro

Anyone already managed to get an Huawei Mate 20 Pro unlocked by any service ?

I'm in the process of buying a new phone and I love the features of the Mate20Pro - But living on Android without root is a no go.

I would not buy the phone if it's not unlockable.

I talked to ministryofsolutions.com via Telegram an the guy told me that Mate 20 Pro seems to be problematic since the OEM Unlock Bootloader feature does not exist in the software.

Anyone any comments on that ?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] soza971:
i also unlocked my mate 10 pro with ministry of solution (30$) it works, he is very fast to give the unlocking code now my phone is unlocked and rooted.

Envoyé de mon BLA-L29 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Hansl1:
Can confirm...wrote him yesterday around 10pm if it`s possible to unlock my phone (sent android-version with patch-lvl etc, you never know). 1 hr later i got a response -> no problem. Today morning at 7am i sent him my IMEI and SN (after i submitted him the money via paypal of course)....i only had to wait, not even 1,5 hrs...i used the time to make backups and save all necessary files on the pc. Unlock worked without problems, only the restoration of all files took me some time but now it`s open and rooted. In my opinion, 30€ (~34€ with fees) are a lot of money but in this case (and if you really want to unlock your phone), it`s worth the money.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] MightyBenjamin:
I got my bootloader code pretty quick too. It works perfectly, and now my CLT-L29 P20 Pro is rooted, running Magisk v17.3 and unofficial TWRP.

I'm going to test the new Evira kernel now, too! :D
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fergalc:
I too can confirm that this works. Happy days..!!
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BrimoFan123:
I have got a bootloader unlock code from ministryofsolutions.com for which I have paid 30€ and it doesn't work.

Device: ALP-L29 8.0.0.143(C636)

C:\>fastboot oem unlock <16-digits code I got>

FAILED (remote: 'check password failed!')

Finished. Total time: 4.549s

Phone was rebranded from ALP-AL00 8.0.0.118(C00):

fastboot oem oeminforead-SYSTEM_VERSION

(bootloader) :ALP-AL00 8.0.0.118(C00)

to ALP-L29 8.0.0.119(C636)

and then I did OTA to ALP-L29 8.0.0.143(C636)

and then I provided IMEI1, IMEI2 and SN to ministryofsolutions.com

and then I have received bootloader unlock code which doesn't work.

I got refund.

I had a TeamViewer session with Mr. Bashir and he verified that I provided correct information but at the end when he saw result of "fastboot oem unlock" he called me a liar and did not answered why he is calling me in this way.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] paysen:
I don't know, it is too expensive imo anyway. I will have a new device in a few months and I don't care that much atm.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mrcaligula:
It does say on their site that if your phone has been rebranded you cant unlock, wont get refund. So good for you if you got refund :D
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BrimoFan123:
I had a chat before I made the order and I informed him if that make sense to go for unlock as I have rebranded phone but all IMEIs and SN are match in EMUI, in fastboot command and on the box label. I got the answer "yes", so I made PayPal transfer and then you know the story...
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dr.higgins:
Kind of a daft question maybe, but what action causes me not to be able to receive OTA upgrades?

Will unlocking the bootloader result in this?

Or is it the rooting afterwards?

Maybe it's something entirely different?

Anyone? :)
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] RiTCHiE007:
Its the root that causes this. A unlocked bootloader doesn't mean anything if the system or recovery isn't modded but root causes the checks to fail so that it wont do OTA. You can hide the apps needed in magisk hide function to get the updates but then you need to watch out that tyou update with the full versions and then need to reroot afterwards.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] soza971:
Whats the apps to magisk hide to get OTA?

Envoyé de mon BLA-L29 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] nrdmtt:
I have a single sim p20 pro that I would like to rebrand to dual sim. Right now, my phone still has the boot loader locked. I have already required the unlock code from Huawei (back in May), but still have to use it. I was wondering... Can I use this method to unlock the bootloader, to rebrand my phone, and once rebranded use the original code from Huawei to re-unlock the boot loader to achieve root (or the other way around)?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] tex1979:
Unlocked and now.?

Hi guys

I read your posts about this new way to unlock bootloader,Idid it and worked well and very fast for me (it takes less than 1 hour after payment), now my question is may I able to debrand (from c781 to c432) without root? What I need is a c432 phone with the last stock one!

Thank you

Ivan
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] walkwitmeinhel:
My phone is mate 20x if i unlock also which twrp should i install?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] forever_lol:
Is this Mate 20x forum or P20 pro?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] walkwitmeinhel:
Its unlock service forum
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] forever_lol:
It's unlock service thread located at P20 Pro forum, how can we know what twrp u're supposed to flash? I am not trying to be rude, but seriously why don't You ask this question in Your device board.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] xbl33m:
bootloader unlock

it worked for me too... pay 30 EUR and i got the unlock code!
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mrcaligula:
I think it is too expensive. :( 10 euros max !! :D
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] papar0xy:
Paid 30euros, got my code in 15 minutes. Worked flawlessly.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] walkwitmeinhel:
For which phone
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] papar0xy:
P20 Pro
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mirandam:
My mate 10 pro unlocked without any problem after receiving the code.

Installed magisk and busybox, so now it's rooted. Just great even though it cost me 30€.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lllN30lll:
I just paid £20 from eBay, I'll update you
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lllN30lll:
£20 ebay code worked :D
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] superwahwah:
I ordered a 30e code today, waiting for it. But I am interesting to know the link to get a 20 pounds one for friends.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Spackon:
Can you send me also the link?

The Ministry of solution didnt find my code.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] wpjohn13:
can you give us the link...thank you
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] miro_sbl:
I would love the bay link too
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Kaot93:
Since the pie rollout in Europe has started, is it safe to update with locked bootloader when I don't want to lose the ability to unlock?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lllN30lll:
{Mod edit}
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] CaerCadarn:
This listing has ended! :(
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lllN30lll:
Message the seller. He's a big unlocker
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Nogara:
Did someone made this work with a demo/retail unit? I need to unlock my Honor 10 with demo software...
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Amr.elsherbiny:
Does this work for emui 9.0 too?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Kaot93:
Service is down..
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mdda7:
i need lock my bootloader

i have pie 9.0.0.108 beta
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Cygnust:
So really finished for unlocking?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Fischfuss:
I want to unlock my bootloader too, but all services for P20 Pro are down. And no one gives a clue why or if it will ever give the service again :(
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] StonebridgeGr:
i did unlock mine 1.5 month ago but i paid 20 euros and now they want 60 euros i think . not this service, another one
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Fischfuss:
Sorry StonebridgeGr, but the link to the service you did this doesn't work. :rolleyes:
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Fusey01:
I just asked seller and he says price is 70$. He said service was 30 but service stopped, then service resumed yesterday but price doubled..

Anyone else doing it cheaper? :(
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leikkaus:
Which service is it ? Do you have a link ?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] inneyeseakay:
FunnyHuawei back up for $127

{Mod edit}

MOS says they're back up for $70 thru PayPal friends/family only (contacted thru WhatsApp)

{Mod edit}

{Mod edit} says they're hoping to be back up within 5 days.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] maddoguk:
I'd sell the phone rather than pay that amount.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] forever_lol:
Agreed. 30€ was already expensive.

{Mod edit} is on again - 70 bucks !!!!
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] StonebridgeGr:
30 euros is more expensive that 70 bucks? serius?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] forever_lol:
You're kidding right? Who said 30 € is more than 70 $?

Exclamation marks meant i was shocked over the price rise.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] inneyeseakay:
And they're back offline...
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Hoopik:
So, at this moment there's nowhere to get BL unlock code for P20 Pro ?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] forever_lol:
I am afraid so.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Zempathy:
I've contacted the service via email and they confirmed that the service no longer works for the p20 pro.:(

If you find an alternative, please send it to me!
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Huawei P20 lite user:
does this work with P20 lite?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] KUANJILAODEHUA:
holeless:crying: I like huawai device so much but it's cannot unlock now

maybe I should return to xiaomi ?:cowboy:
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] robertiiino:
i hate huawei
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] maddoguk:
Back to OnePlus in the next few months
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Twiddler:
Well, I guess this is the current status:

(see attachment)
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] forever_lol:
There's sth going on! The status on GUS has been changed : "HUAWEI BOOTLOADER UNLOCK CODES: NEW CODES STRUCTURE: TESTING FEW MORE IMEI NOW". Funky says on their twitter bootloader unlock is available again. Only MoS remains unchaged.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mrabcx:
So cheap, only $1500 HKD ($191 USD) per code.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] forever_lol:
There are already cheaper options.

I got mine on ebay today right before guys on Global Unlocking Solutions cut their prices so I overpaid unfortunately, but I am glad I eventually got the code. Codes are available on GUS again.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] deltaman83:
Registered and ordered my unlock code to global unlocking solutions. Waiting after payment link. Will come back and tell you if everything is ok
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] spityu85hun:
robbery, invertebrate, exploitative... you should close them for a lifetime :mad:
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] deltaman83:
UPDATE 1 : code received. Will be able to test by the end of the day
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] deltaman83:
Update 2 : bootloader unlocked :D !!
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] forever_lol:
And it's even available on MoS - and twice cheaper - 14,90 USD!
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] robertiiino:
they no response me !!! D:
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] 6strings:
$10 on ebay, mnz technologies. I haven't tried it yet but I would say that they are legit with over 24,000 sales and 99.7 positive feedback.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] belloni:
Has anyone bought from this person and been successful?

{Mod edit}
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] robertiiino:
{Mod edit} has send me a correct code after 10 minutes for $14.90 !!!!!!!!!!!!! working finee :D
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] titi66200:
I just bought it, now waiting. ?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] elnenez:
Available in ebay for 6$. I bought one today for p20 pro and it works!

{Mod edit}
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] blufreak:
Waiting on one from funkyhuawei to go with the 2 week sub I bought, so far nearly 24 hours no response to email.

How quickly did you receive your codes, from what provider and how much?

I have limited time to rebrand due to work so want to get it done today
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] belloni:
I also have CLT-L09, have you tried rooting yet? If so, was it successful?
[Amazfit] FLEXITRON:
Hello guys!

I think the touchscreen of my amazfit pace is broken. I've tried to unbrick it many times, flashed many different roms and even some custom recoverys; but the touch is just not working.

Is there a way to delete / deactivate all functions like wifi, bluetooth etc. and some "apps" in order to just use it as a watch and extend the battery life? When it is coupled with the phone, it stills shows notifications etc, which is very annoying...

Hope you can help!:confused:

Thank you!
[Amazfit] casper709394:
hi there

im not sure if its works but you just try it our since your watch already left no option

- search in the forum here to download 'android sdk''

- connect watch to computer (with installed android sdk)

- open power shell or command prompt (cmd) and go to location where you extract the file eg c:\sdk

- type "adb shell pm list packages" and you get a list of all installed packages

- type "adb uninstall "package-name" to uninstall ---> replace this "package-name" with the shown exact package name

- the package name seem much self explainable but un-install at your own risk and may result your watch total gone RIP.
[Honor 8X Questions & Answers] hunainarbani:
Hello Everyone,

I own this mobile but it does not have dual band WiFi, but specification in all of the websites says its dual band. I am confused. :confused:
[Honor 8X Questions & Answers] sweetjuice:
yes，dual band WiFi
[Honor 8X Questions & Answers] hunainarbani:
My Model is JSN-L22, it has no dual band i have checked with Software.
[Honor 8X Questions & Answers] sweetjuice:
jsn-l21，jsn-al00 checked,dual band wifi!
[Honor 8X Questions & Answers] hunainarbani:
I think JSN-L22 it does not have dual band. Thanks for sharing your views.
[Honor 8X Questions & Answers] bibekdwa:
JSN-L22 looks to be missing dual band wifi. Maybe this is a software thing?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chamelion:
hey guys,

any idea where i can get the cab for the smsbackup provided in the schaps rom from? until the next version i decided to play around with some other 6.1 roms and backed up everything using smsbackup, but now can't seem to find the same application anywhere :(

thanks in advance!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chamelion:
sorry for wasting your time, found it!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1156915&postcount=2
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chamelion:
hey guys,

ok so the jeyo sms backup - when i hit restore it pretty much freezes after about 80%. have left it for hours but it isn't DOING anything. any ideas what could be wrong? the backup definitely completed successfully, backup size 363.7kb.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] greatbal:
If Jeyo SMSBackup doesn't work for you, you can try PPCPIMBackup. Just do a search. It's a lot better than Jeyo's, faster too. You can also backup your contacts and other PIM data aside from SMS. :)
[Zuk Z1 General] denclaud:
https://xdaforums.com/android/software/r-s-e-sound-systems-auditory-research-t3379709 here's the link.

Or can guys share your sound MODS.
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] fendetestasxx:
I have a question that I have not been able to solve yet. Can wipe system be done in the Mi Max 3? I want to do a clean reinstallation of the rom Revolution OS and I do not dare to do the wipe system. :confused:
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] MrColdbird:
Yes, you can wipe /system.
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] tuddu:
Good luck......

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If you wipe system, for sure you have hard.brick

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[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] fendetestasxx:
Well I have not left doubts. 50% hard brick - 50% yes I can. :confused:
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] MrColdbird:
Why would he be hard bricked by wiping system before flashing another ROM?
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] tuddu:
Because folder System is mandatory to be fount by flashing operations. If not fount, the flashing operations stops and result into bootloop. In other words new ROM must find system in order to overwrite some files only, while it keeps unchanged other ones. If he doesn't find any file (folder system cancelled) it is clear that some ROM parts are missing and return a bootloop.

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[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] opasha:
Agreed. Wiping system is pointless for the OP. Just do factory reset (wipe data, cache, and dalvik cache) if you want to do a clean install. Keep it simple. :highfive:
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] omniphil:
Where is the Revolution OS for the Mi Max 3?
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] opasha:
https://miui.revtechs.me/en/mimax3/
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] omniphil:
Excellent, thank you!
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] fendetestasxx:
The developers say that they format the system:

https://imgur.com/a/604sLzJ
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] opasha:
That's just text from their text file. Ignore that. What they could be referring to is modifying system. Just listen to our advice - no need to format it.
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] fendetestasxx:
Okay. No wipe system. I'll stay with the desire. :D
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] MrColdbird:
What all of you fail to understand is that the rom edify script itself wipes your system partition anyway...

Yet you guys claim it would brick the system... Which is nonsense.

Even if you wiped the system partition, the recovery would still be unaffected, which means you could just install a ROM of choice to revive the phone.
[Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Questions & Answers] opasha:
You're absolutely right. I will correct myself because the rom above was wiping the system anyway; any good full rom does as you mentioned regarding the rom script.

However, let's say he didn't make a backup, his download of the rom was corrupted, or this was just an incremental update, then he might run into errors. I've come across many flashing too fast without reading and doing things incorrectly, and they end up with bricked devices. It's better leaving the OS alone and let the update script of the rom take care of it. Simple factory reset (wipe data, cache and dalvik cache) is usually enough.