yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
seems like it can be updated. from. soak test then, but I never heard nor did I find anything about OPP25. 85-16 build. maybe there was a third soak test and we don't know about it :confused:
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] bori321:
Works perfect

Hi,

i used the above Image in Germany and i am now on Oreo 8.1

Everything works perfect. First i had a little bit trouble due to an old Version of ADB Tools, but after Update ADB to current Version the Update to Oreo took something around 30min.

Build 28.85-16

Oreo 8.1

Software Channel reteu

Patch Level 01.08.2018
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BranislavKn:
On which version you were before update?
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] bori321:
Firmware

Hi,

before update to Oreo i flashed NPPS25.137-93-2-5 Firmware and after that the Image from this thread.

Worked perfect.

Alex

I tried to post a Screenshot but it was not possible because i am a new member...
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JoeDoe0:
Update fails from OPP28.85-13 since it expects either OPP28.85-16 which is the latest Oreo build (that I want to update to) or the latest Nougat NPPS25.137-93-2-5.

There is no OPP25. 85-16 build! I think you misread the error message. ;)

BTW I updated from OPP28.85-13 to -16 using the full fastboot version and it worked out perfectly. :)
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
yeah, I actually misread it, now I see it.

Anyways, flashing it from fastboot doesn't prove anything. but seems like Cedric can be upgraded from the soak test to final version using this ota. Idk because I used fastboot myself too, since I had already modified my system partition.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
seriously?

stop joking, Motorola doesn't release changelogs.

but I'll try:

updated from nougat to oreo?

duhhh
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahmedAZ:
how is speaker quality in this build ?

because there is some issues in previous oreo builds
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] bori321:
Speaker

Hi,

i would say that for my ears the speaker sounds better than it was with Nougat.

After a few days of testing everything works really good and i have not found anything not working or any problems.

Alex
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahmedAZ:
how do you get back to NPPS25.137-93-2-5
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] bori321:
I followed the steps from this Thread: https://xdaforums.com/g5/development/stock-upgrade-to-official-stock-oreo-8-t3823598

- Unlocked bootloader (don't know of this is necessary)

- back to NPPS25.137-93-2-5 via the commands from the thread i linked (without the lines:

fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin

fastboot erase modemst1

fastboot erase modemst2

fastboot flash fsg fsg.mbn

)

- via ADB sideload with the Oreo download from this thread to Oreo.

Alex
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
In my experience the quality is better than on previous oreo builds.

if you have an unlocked bootloader download NPPS25.137-93-2-5 Flashable Zip here and flash it with twrp

to flash official Motorola files there's no need to unlock the bootloader.

you've just unnecessarily voided your warranty :(
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
[MENTION=5583097]freeZbies[/MENTION]

Hey is that twrp stock rom (137-93-2-5) the only thing we need to flash before going for the ota ? Cause I've been told that we needed to be on a completely unmodified system partition in order to receive the ota. In that case just flashing twrp stock wouldn't be sufficient right?

https://xdaforums.com/g5/development/stock-upgrade-to-official-stock-oreo-8-t3823598/post77713117
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
I dont know if the twrp version would be valid. To apply an OTA, your system must matchbit by bit, so the most guaranteed way is to flash that firmware via fastboot, but you could try flashing the twrp version, and in case it works, you could post the results here.

just dont forget that if the ota fails youll soft brick ur phonr and will only be able to recover it via fastboot
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
Thanks I'll keep that in mind :)

Being soft bricked,, wouldn't I be able to use twrp still? Like to flash a valid rom or one of my backups?

Anyways I can't really try it that way since the update hasn't come to me yet I'm on software channel Retca.

Edit : right I forgot that I could just use the official ota available here if I would like to test it.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
being soft bricked doesnt necessarily mean you can recover it through twrp. OTA's are different of twrp flashables in that it modifies things beyond system partition. I've seen reports from people with other motorola devices who applied an OTA while having a modified system partition, and even though they were able to boot to twrp, flashing a custom Rom or restore a backup wouldn't make the phone boot. Their phones weren't hard bricked, but still they had to fastboot to recover their phones. Anyways, why don't you flash the Twrp flashable if, it's already available (considering you have an unlocked bootloader).

I'm case you have a locked bootloader you may fastboot without executing "fastboot erase userdata" in case you want to try. I did it without losing my data (although I was already in Opp 28.85-16)

but after all I really advice you to flash the twrp zip if u can
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
As for the oreo twrp flashable zip I did already try it and unfortunately it didn't boot. I tried dirty and clean install didn't change anything. It's kinda weird that I'm practically the only user to date that this oreo twrp hasn't worked for. Makes me wonder if my Canadian phone has something different than the others hehe.

Right now I don't really have the time to start testing fastboot firmwares or downgrading to 137-93-2-5. Plus it kinda freaks me out that I might hard brick or something lol.

Would be great if the twrp stock 137-93-2-5 actually worked for ota's but I'm not sure I wanna be the one to test that :)
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
OK, post the results here if you are successful, remember to revert recovery back to stock before trying to apply an ota.

Now, about the hard brick, you should be safe as long as you don't touch bootloader or gpt partition scheme, and as long as you have a stock recovery you should be fine trying to apply an ota, but still, do it at your own risk
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
Is it normal that the update notification I got is 85-13? Do we have to install this one first then we get the 85-16 notification?
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
Do you have a XT167x device?

What's your software update channel?

Are u part of the MFF program?

Plus, what's the firmwares full version, just 85-13 isn't its full versiob
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
Xt1670 on software channel Retca. Full version was Blur_Version.25.351.21.cedric.retail.en.US. I don't know about any MFF program.

Edit: Blur_Version.28.41.12.cedric.retail.en.US also appears in the log I fetched from the ota download. Whats with the two versions?
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
interesting... seemsike you're really getting another version.

what software version you're currently at, because to get to oreo you must be (at least on retbr channel) on NPPS25.137-93-2-5 if you're on nougat or OPP25.85-16 if you're on soak test.

What yous about phone screen shows?

But anyways, if you have a stock recovery and never touched your system, boot and oem partitions you should be fine applying any OTA that comes out for you
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
I am officially on build 137-93-14 but right now I am on 137-93-8 (stock debloated rom from these forums) I know I would be safe updating to these versions if I were un modified. My wife's phone was prompt with the update and everything went fine she's on 28.85-13 now. I'm the one with the modified phone, which means I have to go back full stock unmodified for ota or flash oreo directly from fastboot with the available files on xda. I just hesitate to do that cause like you said it seems I have another version.. A small indication of that would be that the twrp flashable oreo released here didn't work for me. It didn't boot. Though I was able to flash this debloated rom so maybe I have nothing to worry about.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
This is my phone info.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
137-93-14 comes before NPPS25.137-93-2-5, that's why you're not getting the same ota as everyone else.

You should not fear flashing via fastboot, it will always work since it flashes the entire system, with all the files necessary for the phone to work.

If you want to have Oreo just follow the guide in the main thread, observing with caution the info regarding bootloader version, and you should be fine.

Also, you are able to maintain all of your apps and user data as long as you don't execute "fastboot erase userdata" (tested and approved by me, I was able to flash oreo without losing my data by omitting this command.)

Give it a go and post the results here.

All should be fine after all.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
[MENTION=5583097]freeZbies[/MENTION]

okay.. I did some looking up on Moto G5 forums. Turns out Blur_Version.25.351.21.cedric.retail.en.US was actually the build I was on (my wife's phone) BEFORE the OTA which is 137-93-14 Nougat. Blur_Version.28.41.12.cedric.retail.en.US is the new firmware that was downloaded which is 28.85-13 Oreo.

That's why I was confused about the two versions appearing inside the log from the OTA. Found this line which kinda sums up that one is Current and other is update.

CusSM.sendUpgradeStatus: cur: Blur_Version.25.351.21.cedric.retail.en.US; src: Blur_Version.25.351.21.cedric.retail.en.US; dest: Blur_Version.28.41.12.cedric.retail.en.US; upgradeSource:upgrade; reportingTag: POLL_1539100688627,TRIGGER-POLLING; trackingId: 2-0D4AE5A805FE2D2A3C550029120848B0E7F6B82209B04AC9D177353D7BF8AE642304EB374C6D2314296FF7B9E49EF2274B3A3D23CEE53ACC96D9F02629CC11649AC3F376F99FC0BDDF0A462B98A5950E; metaDataVersion: null; ro.carrier: retca. time: 1539303295

Thanks to this thread which links to an archive with all Moto G5 OTA's I was able to indentify which were mine :)

https://xdaforums.com/g5/how-to/cedric-ota-archive-t3795275

Anyways all this to say that my device isn't different reallly from the others hehe.

---------- Post added at 06:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:22 PM ----------

Yep I'm definately going to try the full fastboot Oreo firmware thanks for your reply's :)
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
OK, but I'd like to say that I personalty don't think these blur versions are always correct when you receive an ota. To me it seems like the phone does name the update file on its own, resulting in a filename (and consequently Blur versions) that are different from those stored in the server.

That's just a theory, but in my case, for example, the final oreo release stored in my phone was named Blur_Version.25.361.10.cedric.retail.en.US.zip whereas the actual Blur version for OPP28.85-16 is 28.41.15

Likewise, it makes no sense for you to revive 85-13, unless you were soak testing.

Anyways, these are all speculations on my part and none should make any difference after all.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
Yeah..it is confusing. Your not helping my brain right now lol. I find it weird too that my wife's phone is now on 85-13 when 85-16 is the latest? At least I think it is. Plus she's not receiving any further update notifications at the moment..

---------- Post added at 08:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:07 PM ----------

@freeZbies

If you look at this blur list text document, you can see that your Blur_Version.25.361.10.cedric.retail.en.US was actually the version you were on before you updated. Blur_Version.28.41.15.cedric.retail.en.US is your current version 28.85-16 (doesn't appear yet in the text document yet it seems)

So if you had taken a look at your log for the ota you might have seen a similar line like the one I posted previously saying current and dest:

I don't know if what I'm saying is right though.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
Sry I meant to post this.

The line I'm taking about is this one.

CusSM.sendUpgradeStatus: cur: Blur_Version.25.351.21.cedric.retail.en.US; src: Blur_Version.25.351.21.cedric.retail.en.US; dest: Blur_Version.28.41.12.cedric.retail.en.US; upgradeSource:upgrade; reportingTag: POLL_1539100688627,TRIGGER-POLLING; trackingId: 2-0D4AE5A805FE2D2A3C550029120848B0E7F6B82209B04AC9D177353D7BF8AE642304EB374C6D2314296FF7B9E49EF2274B3A3D23CEE53ACC96D9F02629CC11649AC3F376F99FC0BDDF0A462B98A5950E; metaDataVersion: null; ro.carrier: retca. time: 1539303295

Maybe you had one of those too, there is two blur versions listed there. One for current and other for update.. In my case Blur_Version.28.41.12.cedric.retail.en.US (85-13)
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
All you said about blur version also makes sense, seems like the device names the update according to the version you're on.

Now about your wife's phone.

well, soak test releases start with OPP25.85-(XX) (OPP25.85-13 and OPP25.85-16).

Now, the final release (at least here in Brazil and in the US AFAIK) is OPP28.85-16

But anyways, let's stop with the confusion already lol: it may be just the case retca is receiving a different version, which seems totally plausible imo, but anyways,just fastboot it since won't have another option if u can't ota and twrp haven't worked for you.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
And if you're on a retail channel ( retca in your case), any retail firmware should work on your phone
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
Good to know I'll try it for sure when I have the time hehe
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JoeDoe0:
Hi freeZbies,

You are (once again) confusing build numbers. ;)

Here the Oreo versions (soak test and final) from Brazil and India so far.

Blur_Version.28.41.2.cedric.retail.en.US	OPP28.85-3
Blur_Version.28.41.12.cedric.retail.en.US	OPP28.85-13
Blur_Version.28.41.15.cedric.retail.en.US OPP28.85-16
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
What you provided here is the Blur Version, and what I provided above is the build number, and both are indeed not the same.

I can't see where the confusion is, since as I said, both soak tests released so far (at least in Brazil) had BUILD NUMBERS (which have nothing to do with the versioning scheme used in Blur Versions) prefixed 25 (OPP25.85-13 and OPP25.85-16) whereas the final release we've got here is prefixed 28 (OPP28.85-16).

I honestly don't see the point of you talking about Blur Versions by quoting a post where I talk about build numbers, and seems like you have yourself confused everything since you have said

None of these are build numbers, this is what build numbers look like:

[IMG="build number"]https://i.imgur.com/DPHkmBW.png[/IMG]
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JoeDoe0:
Actually I provided both, the Blur Version and the associated Build Number. ;)

Let me try again.

[U]Blur Version[/U] [U]Build Number[/U] [U]Release[/U]
Blur_Version.28.41.2.cedric.retail.en.US OPP28.85-3 1st Soak Test
Blur_Version.28.41.12.cedric.retail.en.US OPP28.85-13 2nd Soak Test
Blur_Version.28.41.15.cedric.retail.en.US OPP28.85-16 Final

As you might see all Oreo versions start with 28.xx (Blur and Build).

Everything that starts with 25.xx is a Nougat version.

Here the known Nougat and Oreo builds (courtesy of tfwboredom from his thread https://xdaforums.com/g5/how-to/cedric-ota-archive-t3795275).

Source: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BkpfHvgQ477NViLYvzgv88Fgq3SSt5Py (BlurBuildList.txt)

Nougat 7.x
-------------
Blur_Version.25.11.13.cedric.retail.en.US	NPP25.137-15
Blur_Version.25.11.31.cedric.retail.en.US	NPP25.137-33
Blur_Version.25.11.75.cedric.retail.en.US	NPP25.137-72
Blur_Version.25.11.80.cedric.retail.en.US	NPP25.137-76
Blur_Version.25.11.83.cedric.retail.en.US	NPP25.137-79
Blur_Version.25.201.7.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-15-7
Blur_Version.25.206.6.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-33-6
Blur_Version.25.221.11.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-15-11
Blur_Version.25.226.10.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-33-10
Blur_Version.25.246.4.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-72-4
Blur_Version.25.256.3.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-76-3
Blur_Version.25.261.3.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-79-3
Blur_Version.25.271.86.cedric.retail.en.US	NPP25.137-82
Blur_Version.25.281.12.cedric.retail.en.US	NPP25.137-93
Blur_Version.25.291.5.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-93-4
Blur_Version.25.301.10.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-93-8
Blur_Version.25.311.3.cedric.retail.en.US	NPP25.137-93-2
Blur_Version.25.321.8.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-93-12
Blur_Version.25.331.5.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-93-2-3
Blur_Version.25.351.21.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-93-14
Blur_Version.25.361.10.cedric.retail.en.US	NPPS25.137-93-2-5

Oreo 8.1
----------
Blur_Version.28.41.2.cedric.retail.en.US	OPP28.85-3
Blur_Version.28.41.12.cedric.retail.en.US	OPP28.85-13
Blur_Version.28.41.15.cedric.retail.en.US	OPP28.85-16
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] freeZbies:
Now I get what you mean. Turns out I was wrong after all.

But I now don't understand why our fellow above reportedly received OPP28.85-13 as the final update.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
Yeah on my wife's phone ..it's kinda weird like u said. She has always been stock no modifications. Maybe 28.85-16 is on it's way idk..it should have been right after the first update imo.

Btw [MENTION=5583097]freeZbies[/MENTION]

Now I'm on 137-93-2-5 from stock fastboot firmware it worked perfectly. So I'm status official in bootloader menu that's great :)

Since I'm all stock and official right now ..that means I can install the Oreo OTA update with stock recovery ?
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] bazzix:
Anyone with the reteu channel still on NPPS25.137-93-14 ?

Device bought in Belgium, might be Dutch though (coolblue) I'm tired of bad battery life which seems to be mainly due to sync requests of 1 exchange and 1 outlook365 account (previously using bluemail, now aquamail with manual syncs). Thanks to forcedoze I'm getting some more juice out of it, however I'd be very glad to see the oreo update.

Should I be patient and wait for the Oreo update on the reteu channel? On the support page I couldn't find the G5, and if you choose "DEVICE NOT LISTED", you get: "If your Android model is not listed here, it is not slated for any further Android operating system upgrades. "
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheFixItMan:
You maybe looking on the USA website (which doesn't have the g5 only the g5 plus)

The UK site is

http://support.motorola.com/uk/en/softwareupgrade

And I presume the EU would be the same - of course it just says pending as it has for over a year - no dates or time lines are ever given
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
The link at the end of the OP..is that the Oreo OTA ? Cause it is named Blur_Version.25.361.10.cedric.retail.en.US as in 137-93-2-5 nougat no ??

Just wanna make sure I get the right one..
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JoeDoe0:
Yes, it is the correct file.

freeZbies noted this in his post (see below).

Here the info from the metadata file of this OTA Update zip.

I think there is a problem with the naming of the zip file.

Following the previous naming convention it should have this name: block_delta-ota-Blur_Version.25.361.10-28.41.15.cedric.retail.en.US

ota-required-cache=47816704
ota-type=BLOCK
[B]post-build[/B]=motorola/cedric/cedric:8.1.0/[B]OPP28.85-16[/B]/0400:user/release-keys
post-build-incremental=0400
post-timestamp=1536158769
[B]pre-build[/B]=motorola/cedric/cedric:7.0/[B]NPPS25.137-93-2-5[/B]/10:user/release-keys
pre-build-incremental=10
pre-device=cedric
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
Oh I see now..I didn't understand the meaning of that part of the OP lol
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JoeDoe0:
You can check the metadata file in the OTA Update zip file.

You find it here: ...\META-INF\com\android\metadata

I updated my previous post with the content of that file.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] bazzix:
hi [MENTION=4728903]TheFixItMan[/MENTION],

I had selected Belgium from the list, check the link I put in my previous post. Definitely not the US site
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
Ok cool

Hey if I sideload this can I simply rename it update.zip ?
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JoeDoe0:
Yes, the name does not matter at all. You can use a short one to make it easier.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheFixItMan:
Is the device officially distributed there as in could you walk into a shop & buy one or did you order it online from a European distributor

If it's the latter then that's probably why it's not on the Belgium list - you will still get the update though when it's rolled out to the European channel
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
Oh yeah feels great :p

Can I just go ahead and reflash TWRP and install magisk 17.1 for root ?
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] XMoDuLeSx:
Any news for xt1675 channel reteu ? I'm still on 25.137-93-14 version
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] achintyakv:
I downloaded the fastboot files for my moto g5(XT1677) from the below thread.

https://xdaforums.com/g5/how-to/official-oreo-8-1-0-opp28-85-16-t3849244

But I am still confused weather to proceed or not because I am currently on amzin software channel (NPPS25.137-93-14 , July security patch)

Please help me. Should I flash the files or not?
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JoeDoe0:
Yes, I installed the latest x32 TWRP (twrp-3,2,3-0-cedric) https://xdaforums.com/g5/development/official-twrp-3-1-1-0-moto-g5-t3699737 and followed this guide https://xdaforums.com/g5/how-to/guide-how-to-root-stock-oreo-8-1-soak-t3832347 to install Magisk.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekm8Qc:
Ok thanks but I had already done it :)

I just installed magisk 17.1 and it worked right away. Even safety net passes ?
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] JoeDoe0:
You can update using the full Fastboot firmware. See this post https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77896448&postcount=128

or

you wait (maybe another few weeks) until the official Oreo role out via OTA in Europe. ;)

---------- Post added at 05:17 ---------- Previous post was at 05:01 ----------

Good news that it works "right out of the box" with the latest Magisk version. This eliminates the need to use the older version and then update afterwards. However it's not such a big effort.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] worldcompany1200:
Thank you so much had no problems so far. :)
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] k3lcior:
I was wondering if i can update my Moto G5 (XT1676), it's my mother phone so it's 100% stock, no twrp or root, i also cannot lose any data when updating.

Here is current version number: https://imgur.com/htQPvLl (reteu channel)

If so which method would be the safest and straight forward.

I'm kinda relucant flashing this: https://xdaforums.com/g5/how-to/final-official-oreo-8-1-0-release-opp28-t3849273 since it was not released for reteu channel, and is also originating from different region (US) where they use different LTE bands etc.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] XMoDuLeSx:
I have exactly the same xt1675 and wondering the same thing.
[Moto G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] bazzix:
I am on the reteu channel and got the update last week Friday: OPP28.85-13 (1st August 2018)

(XT1676)

Glad I didn't start to tinker myself.