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[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] BartKey:
Cfr reply [MENTION=5237901]Wolfcity[/MENTION] for you.

My problem with unlocked BL was that I could not download the Mynexuzhealth app from playstore. Because safetynet was broken, cts false. After locking BL the download was possible for this app. The app contains medical data and is therefore very well protected I suppose.

On different custom Pie Roms I also had problems with passing safetynet. Some banking apps refused working...
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] gothicVI:
Thanks man! Working like a charm :good:
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
That's what magisk hide is for. You can hide these kind of apps and also the whole Magisk Manager by repacking it with a random paket name.

But that's just for users who want or need to root their device.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ST Dog:
Disagree. While it's main task is root management, the SafetyNet fix is useful for many others. And some add-on modules can help even more.

Just set Magisk to never grant root and hide it from apps as needed.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
I'm using Magisk since SuperSU has been abandoned and sold to Coding Code after Chainfire's retirement and I know the advantages of it. You misunderstood me, the only thing I wanted to say was that there are possibilities to hide several things from curious apps with the help of Magisk but to use them you have to root your device. There are some users out there who don't want to root out of security concerns so I just wanted to make clear that you can't have one without the other.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ST Dog:
Not that canard again...

If you want to run custom ROMs and unlocked boot loaders fir the freedom they provide you need to use the tools available to workaround Google's ill conceived "security" methods.

I know of no instance where root was granted when the manager was set to deny (or you said no when prompted).

And it always comes from people that have had root (administrator) privileges on their PC for years.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
I don't know why you're telling this to me, I'm not the one with those concerns. Just saying that these kind of users exist.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ST Dog:
I wasn't telling you. I was venting.

Maybe someone who holds such concerns will read it and wake up.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Buell301:
I bought a G5 Plus with retin and Indian baseband. I'm not able to use it as a phone for calls using my Verizon sim in America. Could I flash this to change the software and baseband to retus/American? Verizon tech support was stumped and thinking this might be the cause of the problem.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
You should be able to flash this one:

POTTER_OPSS28.85-17-2_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603878115

This is Oreo firmware, I think you posted that you're on Oreo in another thread. Don't downgrade your device to a lower firmware than the one that's running on it.

For Oreo there are mainly two firmwares for 8.1, the ones ending on 13-x for Europe/India and most other countries and the ones ending on 17-x for the US.

You won't be able to receive any OTA updates after that but as the February security patch was the last update from Motorola that's not a big deal.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] riggerman0421:
As I posted your other thread, you want to check to see if it's actually a xt1687, the US version. If not, you need to return it wherever you bought it. If it is a 1687, then flash proper firmware.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] echo92:
In addition to the above posts, I've had a look at the Moto G5 Plus spec sheet for the Indian variant https://www.motorola.in/products/moto-g-plus-gen-5 and I don't see CDMA listed under networks. As far as I understand, Verizon is CDMA only for calls, so regardless of firmware/baseband, your device may not have the necessary radios to even connect.

You may have to switch to a XT1687 as riggerman0421 suggested, or try AT&T or T-Mobile (who are both GSM carriers).
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ST Dog:
Verizon has had VoLTE for several years.

Whether it's active or can be enabled is another story.

They plan to shutdown the CDMA towers at the end of the year and are not allowing new activations of devices that are not capable of VoLTE.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] echo92:
Thanks for that, that matches up with what I understand. In one of the original poster's comments, they appeared to have LTE, but as you mentioned, VoLTE is not guaranteed. I'm not sure if a firmware change would enable VoLTE or even if you could be whitelisted (if that's still active on LTE)? Curious...
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Buell301:
Thank you all. Guess I'm SOL and gotta sell the phone.

Verizon got me into the Testing Menu and could turn off/on VoltE, but it wouldn't stay on. Probably because it's the Indian variant. Lesson learned, don't buy phones on Craigslist/Facebook anymore. I really appreciate your all's help!
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ST Dog:
The whitelist remains and they appear to have more than one now.

The other post about toggling it in in the testing menu but it not working makes me think it's enabled in the account (good) but the firmware not working. Could be band support in general or VoLTE specific.

Flashing the US firmware (some part of it?) may reconfigure the radio or there may be a real hardware limitation.

Either way using it on Verizon/its MVNOs is likely to be problematic.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Buell301:
The guy offered to buy it back for $50. Johns Hopkins Engineering student nonetheless.

I could sell it as is on Ebay and maybe recoup some of my $100 or flash the US version and see what happens. I'm torn, but it seems like my best bet is trying to resell it and being honest that is the 86 and it was bought in India and won't work on US verizon :(

I appreciate all the pertinent information, takes some of the sting out!! Thank ya'll.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] riggerman0421:
Flashing the US firmware won't help. It's a hardware problem. The Indian version didn't support the needed bands to work here.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Buell301:
Thank you.

I put it up on ebay and bought a Moto X 4th gen Amazon Prime version. I really appreciate all the help! Lesson learned, no more craigslist/facebook phones ever again.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] zdoe:
moto g5 not plus upgrade to oreo

need oreo.

is my phone compatible with the ROMs on this thread? the phone screen says it's NPP25.137-15.

according to the instructions here - i see at least one hiccup - there is no Motorola Update Services app on my debloated stock 7. can i just install the .zip with TWRP?

anything else i should take into account before attempting the upgrade?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
First of all: Your device is Moto G5 (cedric) not a Moto G5+ (potter) or has a least a cedric ROM installed. This is the Moto G5+ thread, move on to the Moto G5 thread, your device isn't compatible to anything found here.

When you're there provide some more information:

-When your ROM is debloated where does it come from or have you debloated it by yourself?

-If you're rooted which magisk version?

-TWRP installed?

-Location?

If your ROM is debloated it's very unlikely that OTA (for cedric) will work, when the system partition got tampered by removing apps or services the OTA will fail.

Two opinions:

Wipe everything and flash a fastboot ROM.

Flash a TWRP flashable ROM.

Good luck.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] zdoe:
as i read this is both for potter and cedric: "download-official-moto-g5-g5-plus."

though maybe cedric is a bastard cousin over here.

to answer you in the hopes of getting more help (i'm not sure there's a dedicated thread for cedric):

- i debloated myself, but i do have a TWRP backup of the virgin stock of nougat, maybe i should first revert to it?

- i'm rooted. magisk 5.6.0

- TWRP 3.2.3-0 (which i think is latest for cedric)

- location: varies, mostly u.s. and china, phone (i think) is int'l version from eBay.

- i haven't found a TWRP flashable oreo stock ROM for cedric. have you seen one?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Sorry, didn't see that this thread covers both devices, my fault.

Here are Oreo TWRP flashable ROMs for Cedric. It's the same developer like the one who made the ones for potter and these are pretty good:

https://xdaforums.com/g5/development/twrp-flashable-soak-test-oreo-t3827913

Read the OP of that thread very carefully, all needed informations can be found there.

Make a backup of all partitions before proceeding including persist and EFS to avoid losing IMEI or 4g. The EFS backup can be made with TWRP, as far as I know there is no TWRP version for your device with the ability to backup persist but you can do it from your TWRP terminal with these commands:

To backup:

dd if=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/persist of=/sdcard/persist.img

To restore:

dd if=/sdcard/persist.img of=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/persist

Save the file (persist.img) on a secure place.

I recommend a clean flash but like [MENTION=7346927]NZedPred[/MENTION] the developer of these TWRP flashables I don't own your device. As you're on stock nougat and not on a custom ROM everything should work out good.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] zdoe:
ok, with this i should be in business. i've backed up EFS and persist with ADB shell, after hours of reading the forums. i'll let you know how it goes at the other thread. thanks.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pastorbob62:
It is unusual to have both in a thread here.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Yes, thanks for clarifying. I apologized here:

It is indeed unusual.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] MezzaLuna:
Hi. Since I have a no brand one year old Moto G5 plus (1,5 year old) I guess wich is the name of ota process and if I can kill it and clean cache manually.

It's stock orignal, not rooted with december 2018 patch, February 2019 patch it's available but OTA can't find it.

May be cleaning ota cache could help.

Thank you very much.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] NZedPred:
If it is not on the retus software channel then the December patch is the latest. Can you confirm your channel, or if it is easier, the build number?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] MezzaLuna:
Hi.

It's a RETEU XT1685.

I'm from Europe and on Motorola official Web site I can find an official news about the patch release on February.

That's weird. Thanks for the fast reply.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] gothicVI:
Same here. I'm also on reteu still running with December 2018 patchlevel. Updater finds nothing. Unrooted and never unlocked.

Gesendet von meinem Moto G (5) Plus mit Tapatalk
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] P4v:
Can i put the Feb. 2019 patch in the Aug. 2018 patch in Moto G5 Plus?

Hello, I have one Moto G5 Plus from my mom, and I want to flash the security patch of February of 2019, but my cell has the August 2018 sec. patch. Can I just flash the last flash without flashing the Sep. Oct. and Dec. 2018 sec. patch? Or I have to flash all the previous patches in that order?

The thing is, I haven't found the previous patches without erasing the user data. I want to edit all the .bat and .xml to erase the command "fastboot erase userdata" but I don't know if that will brick the phone, because my mom has a lot of data in the phone.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
It won't brick your device but omitting that fastboot command is not without any risk at all to lose the userdata though.

Is the device rooted or somehow modded (unlocked bootloader, custom recovery)?

If not why don't you apply to the incoming OTA updates one by one? By doing so the userdata won't be affected.

What you describe is flashing a full fastboot firmware, that's only necessary when your device isn't untouched stock anymore.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] MezzaLuna:
Keep it simple, upgrade to the latest OTA and stock firmware available and enjoy.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] P4v:
Oook, this device isn't rooted and I never touched the bootloader to unlock it or anything, is all untouched. But anyway, we gonna change the phone so I will wait to pass all the data to simply... Apply all the OTA updates as is without modifying the commands. Thanks for the advice, and for the record, I didn't found any update like just "OTA update", all are OTA fastboot flashing updates and this device doesn't receive any update via OTA as it should (maybe is because I updated the phone via passing the update and put it in the internal storage to make the phone find the update via OTA (without flashing it via fastboot of course). If any of you have or you all find it, please link me any of that updates please.

---------- Post added at 02:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:36 PM ----------

Yeah but my question is, what happens if I flash the latest patch omitting all the previous security patches, I'm in the August 2018 patch and the latest is February 2019. I don't know if that would brick the phone or something. For the record, i'd never unlocked the bootloader and never rooted, just all stock Android and the only thing that I did was put the OTA of Android 8.1 in the internal memory to force the phone to update via OTA, not even recovery menu or fastboot flash.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
It's not clear for me what your problem is.

When the device hasn't been unlocked or modified it should receive the OTA updates by itself.

If that's not the case something seems to be wrong.

My advice would be letting the device as it is.

If you really need a newer security patch you can

a) fastboot flash the latest available signed stock firmware for your region and omit 'erase userdata'.

b) Take a look for the latest available OTA zip (not identical with a fastboot firmware!) and follow the steps to install it.

Firmwares: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/

https://androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014

OTA updates:

https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/how-to/download-official-moto-g5-g5-plus-t3848246
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] P4v:
Thanks for the info and the links man, I would try to put the latest OTA update and because my mom got a new phone I can format it, so I would flash the latest update formatting the phone with ADB fastboot.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] anikethirpara:
Could Not Detect The Update

Hi,

I had downloaded both mentioned files and located them in to Internal Storage (Android, Downloads, Whatsapp).. And also rebooted the system and provided access to storage to Motorola Update Services. But Still when i click on check for updates it says you have latest version.

How can i solve that issue?

Do i need to extract both files?

Do i need to rename or something?

Do i need to change location?

I have rooted moto g5+

Please help and thanks in advance
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
- There should be only one OTA file that fits for your device. The other ones are for different locations.

- The file must not be extracted.

- If the file has to be renamed depends if the uploader has renamed it but I don't think so.

- Location is internal sd.

- Most important: You can't flash an OTA update on a rooted device.

You'll have to unroot with magisk uninstaller, reflash stock recovery and stock boot.img.

The easier and safer way would be flashing the latest full fastboot firmware and if you don't want to lose your data omit the 'fastboot erase userdata' command.

Here you'll find the latest signed firmware:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13WuhoogtAdoincAyTwCLvRj0d-Z9kL0P/view?usp=sharing

Here's a flashall.bat for Oreo:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zfh67uzfle9hsco/flashallO.bat?dl=0

If you want to just delete the 'fastboot erase userdata' command.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] anikethirpara:
So

1.I need to download that 1 GB file.

2. Extract to adb and fastboot folder

3. need to open recovery mode.

4. Set to factory reset and wipe system

5. excecute all commands using cmd (adb)

Are above steps are correct?

Will this thing unroot my phone? or for which thing this process is for(i meant to unroot or to upgrade 8.0 or both)?

Will this process remove my IMEI?

P.S. Please i am new to this .. i never even want to get into this but i followed some random YT tutorial which ended by wiping my OS. so i had to install 7.0. Now i want upgrade to official 8.1 OTA update.

$$$ PLEASEE STAY ONLINE TO HELP ME IF YOU CAN BECAUSE I HAVE TO SUBMIT ASSIGNMENTS BY TOMORROW .. IT'S VERY URGENT.. PLEASE SIR HELP

---------- Post added at 01:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:14 PM ----------

CAN i just wipe all things and make my phone NO OS? and install 7.0 again?

Will that remove root?

and once i do that i again have to copy that 1.060 GB (MAIN THREAD 8.1) AND block delta file? and check for updates?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] anikethirpara:
HI i just noticed that my moto g5+ is XT 1686 not 1685 can you please provide the link for 1686
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Doesn't matter. It's the last firmware for the Moto G5+ and should run on your device too.

What's your location?

Here are almost all available fastboot firmwares:

https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] anikethirpara:
Thanks man ! I had flashed XT 1685 ROM in my 1686 and it just works fine expect heating issue..

#LIFESAVER

Thanks Again brother! CHEERS! :)
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
You're welcome!
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Dhan...:
Same

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[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] livyansh:
Hi, Bro, I don't have my own persists. I am using someone persists to get VOLTE worked on my stock ROM nougat 7.1 and my build number same as u and software channel as well but I have an issue if I install this version OREO I am gonna lost my VOLTE and IMEI number am I right and I think you are using your own persist that's why you haven't lost your IMEI or VOLTE
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] sachin09:
Hello,

First of all i don't have persist of my device because without searching/reading on xda i flashed custom oreo than again flash stock 7.0,due to this i lost network.

I applied a trick which is on xda ofcourse. Flashed stock zip via twrp and than flash orignal firmware via command line without erasing modem files and got my network.

After that searching on xda found this post, starting the procedure not knowing that what will happened to network. After reboot my baseband version changes from "e" to "r".

I read somewhere that "e" means corrupted persist, "r" means everything ok.

Sorry for long post. ?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] grave_digger:
Thanks for any help in advance. I downloaded the g5 plus zip, moved to root, gave update storage permission tried ota but it says my system is up to date..my phone is international version I guess you would call it, I use it both in Philippines and US by switching my SIM card out.. screenshot of info..where did I go wrong? Does phone have to be rooted? Thanks again for your help
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
You are on NPNS25.137-93-14 which is the firmware for retus/reteu/retapac. This OTA file is only for the indian version NPNS25.137-92-14.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] grave_digger:
Ahh well that would explain it lol..thanks for fast reply!
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
No problem, you're welcome. Lenovorola made it really complicated to keep one firmware apart from the other. It would be nice if they roll out an equal firmware for all software channels.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] sachin09:
Can anyone tell me what is the difference between ota update and update via fastboot?

?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] riyan65:
The update which has send by Motorola over the air(ota) is ota update. In fastboot you are going to update it using adb with the update file you have.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pranjal24:
I flashed the ota over stock 7.0 and it installed successfully but lost imei and both sims. Please help
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] luisoteko:
So... I'm in latin america, retla, but the firmware is NPNS25.137-92-14.... This would work?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Is your firmware NPNS25.137-92-14?

If not: No.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] luisoteko:
Right, but it even with the file in the root folder says its up to date
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] dunderball:
Wow how did you get the full firmware? It's not even out for the US phone I think.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] luisoteko:
Okay, forget it, I forgot give it storage permission
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] pranjal24:
Hello, will you please assist me what trick you applied to get network back as i have similar problem and its still the same. Please provide exact steps you did it will be a great help. thankyou
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Meli.anto81@ gmail.com:
I'm from indonesia..how i get oreo from moto g 5 s plus by OTA..plizzzz
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] dhavalvaland:
I have downloaded it and checked update it shows update available 28.51.16 but then unfortunately I have deleted the file from root folder but still when I check for update it shows same how to clear data coz if company rolled out OTA update then I won't able to see it
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Wrong forum, this is for Moto G5+ (without S).

Don't understand a word, could you please explain your problem a little better?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] dhavalvaland:
I have downloaded Blur_Version 28.51.16 on my Moto G5Plus.

Then put it on root folder

Clicked on System Update

It shows system update available 28.51.16

I have unfortunately deleted the file from root folder

I have restarted my phone

But when I check the system update it still shows update available 28.51.16

Motorola Update System app shows 1.08 GB data. On setting>app>Motorola Update System>storage

How to clear that data?

So when company actually roll out 8.1 on my phone in India I can check it for company version?

---------- Post added at 02:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:12 AM ----------

I have downloaded Blur_Version 28.51.16 on my Moto G5Plus

Put on root folder

Settings>apps>Motorola Update System app>gave permission to access storage

Checked for system update

Shows system update available 28.51.16

Then

Unfortunately I have deleted the zip file Blur_Version from root folder.

Restarted my phone

Checked system update

Still shows update available

Go to

Settings>apparently>Motorola Update System app>storage 1.08 gb

How to wipe that so

I can check for Oreo update when Motorola actually roll out for my phone in India??
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
If the file is really deleted (double check that) it should be enough to revoke the storage permission for Motorola Update System. The original OTA will be stored in cache so the update system doesn't need that permission anymore.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] sachin09:
This trick will work when your device has unlocked bootloader . I wish you have.

Steps

1. Unlock bootloader

2. Flash twrp

3. Download stock rom.zip (android 7.0 rom) transfer in phone internel storage.

4. Flash stock rom. Hope you get your signal if not than download and flash custom oreo rom now you get your signal (LTE also).

5. " IMPORTANT " now boot to twrp and backup your modem files ( something like efs).

6. Now flash stock 7.0 rom.

7. And flash efs. ( you get signal now).

"Note = if you try to flash rom via fastboot or try to lock bootloader remember do not flash any clear modem commands. " doing this remove signals.