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[Touch Cruise Android Development] dubbeld00:
For the last time; things you can do when Android doesn't boot:

- Turn off bluetooth

- Turn off 3g mode

- Turn off GPS

- Close every program

- Your battery must be fully loaded

- Connect your device to your PC

- Turn ON phone mode

Also use a ROM like Vega R3; the Diamond doesn't always work. This will give you the highest chance of booting Android. (The battery thing really seems to work).
[Touch Cruise Android Development] maximos86:
i had all of these covered except the battery thing...:p

edit:

after trying with all these it still didnt boot
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Skywalker74:
AndroidGlobalTime looks promising

Thank's for the cab file. Android boots like a charm on my Polaris.

I found this article on the Internet:

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/05/androidglobaltime.html

(Article explains what can be done with the application AndroidGlobalTime)

Is this the first time that we see OpenGL ES accelerated graphics on Polaris?

It looks quite nice and you can spin the Earth realy fast. :)

Try some comands like L (lights) or zoom in/out: 2 and 8.

(Keyboard --> camera button)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dubbeld00:
It's only software though, the "3d-driver" (CONFIG_MSM_HW3D) isn't compiled... But compare it with Aero on Windows Vista, which will only work on a expensive 3d card, and Compiz Fusion, which will work on a cheap onboard video card.

So yes it's extremely fast, but it's based on software, not on hardware :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] L10nH34Rt:
How do we know when a new kernel is available so that we can compile it ourselves??
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dubbeld00:
There are constantly changes to the git, using the command "git pull" you can get the latest changes from the linux kernel, it will show you how many changes there were into the git.

Real changes to our platform are done by Premy, the only thing the "gotolinux" developers do is change things like the grapic driver and sound driver.

In short:

- Premy (apply patch file): makes big changes to our platform (Polaris) (platform changes (only affects Polaris type machines))

- Gotolinux (git pull): makes small changes (like an improved video driver) (global changes (affects all MSM type machines))

In reality this is a bit different (in the feauture premy will also post his changes onto the gotolinux or android git) but this is how we are developing at the moment.

Here you can find more information about how to patch and get the latest git: http://android.v-dh.nl/?m=Docs&id=3#patching
[Touch Cruise Android Development] AdamR78:
I can't get the cab file to work... Tried all the suggestions in the thread, even changed my ROM to R3 Vega. Haret launches to what appears to be close to a 100%, and then nothing happens...
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bunex:
Hello AdamR78

Here is some Room who was tested by me.

1.Not good for Android in my case:

- Aserg 4.1

- Mr.PhamQuang v22, v23

2. Good For Android

- Bepe Rom WWE 0.67 Opera ( launch and run well touch work well not a test if i can make a phone call just I was hapy to see Android run ).

Have a nice day for testing.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] L10nH34Rt:
That happened to me too with PhamQuang V23, but when I put it in airplane mode it booted...
[Touch Cruise Android Development] tcvaio:
Try on the 19949 pdamobiz. The andriod starts well but it actually cannot function. Mine cannot make call. Time can't be set. And cannot add contacts. But the earth is spinning smoothly. Overall it runs. Thanks for your work.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dubbeld00:
Alright, a new diff file is up from the vogue development.

- improved touchscreen driver

- mobile gets into sleep (so puts off the screen, and slow down the processor)

- new onscreen keyboard (a larger one, and the "default" one)

- loads of improvements on the radio side

- "full" IRQ implementation

- many more (go read the diff file)

the only thing we've to do is port it to our Polaris... Ain't gonna do it on my own so who can also read/write and understand programming? Don't know if Premy is still hanging around?

Vogue diff file
[Touch Cruise Android Development] pereirald:
Just tried on udk diamond 4. Works fine
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
Is anybody success to make call with polaris version ? cause i read the success to make call with the Kaiser version.

they also create another forum http://www.androidgeeks.net

How can i launch the 3D earth to set the time like we can see on some picture?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] WinMB2:
Now, I've an image that works for in/out calls.

From Vogue:

"Update(20/6/08): The browser works fine with radio version 3.37 but may not with others".

what does this mean? where is the repos? how can I check the radio version on Polaris? and after android is booted?

thanks,

WinMB2
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dubbeld00:
Radio: Everything that has to do with sending and receiving messages from your telecom provider. Services like: 3g, g, HSDPA, phone conversations, video conversations, SMS, MMS (which is over internet (so 3g, g and HSDPA)).

We only use a different version of radio (not the same as vogue), so Premy used the implementation of the kaiser (which is almost the same?).

What he is saying is that 3g communication is working with the 3.37 radio version.

I'm still waiting though till someone also has some spare time to convert lots of drivers developed by kaiser and vogue teams to our polaris device.

There is no repos of the vogue driver, but a Patch file (explained before in this thread), you can get the linuxtogo git, and patch it with the vogue patch file, then cook an image and you can run it onto a Vogue! device.

Premy did some porting (of an old vogue TouchScreen driver) to our device, and also added the kaiser phone in/out call driver. What we have to do next is keep it all up to date. But I don't prefer to work alone on such a project.

Explanation about the version of Radio: 1.25.16.23 (or so) is what the most of us is using. This is the same radio as Windows will use. Your radio isn't baked into Windows, but is baked in the device. Windows has a driver to send messages to the radio, and the radio sends it to your provider:

ROM (like Windows or Linux)
V
Radio (version 1.25.x.x)
V
Provider
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Skywalker74:
Is there any progress? Please, keep us up to date. A new cab file with some improvements will be nice to try! :-)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Henry_Lee:
Yep, I also waiting for new .cab file for Polaris of Android Project.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
Some news here posted Jun 30th 2008 http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/06/30/touch-cruise-latest-htc-device-to-fall-to-android

and here posted July 3rd, 2008 http://www.techiequest.com/htc-integrated-google-android-on-htc-touch-cruise/

But I think they are not up to date.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dubbeld00:
Nice articles, but the last article says that HTC will bring us android, but if you read the source, it's not HTC who will bring it... but we (XDA-Developers)...

Furthermore, I don't know where Premy is hanging around... would like to bring this all to another level...
[Touch Cruise Android Development] L10nH34Rt:
Give him a break :) He is probably on vacation :D
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dubbeld00:
New zImage, includes some fixes made by the vogue development, it isn't that much, but I wasn't able to make a phonecall, but now it's working.

For the first time it booted 6 out of 6 attempts... I don't start the big things, since there is no communication about who does what... So I'm just going to sit and wait ;)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] maximos86:
im downloading right now:P

edit:

after trying it booted from 1st time with 3g turned off no apss running and not connected to pc using udk diamond r4... unable to receive or make calls though... waiting for more:P
[Touch Cruise Android Development] premy:
Guys,

there's quite a bit going on at the moment. We have calls, data and SMS working under android. We're however in the process of unifying the code with the kaiser code. Once it's done, I'll post a complete bootkit (the android image needs a bit of tweaking to work).

We're also about to have the SD card working.

For those interested in helping with the development, you can join the #htc-linux IRC chatroom on freenode.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] maximos86:
thats great:) when can we see a zImage of all these?:P
[Touch Cruise Android Development] X-Kent:
Used the cab for the first time after reading all the 22 pages of the thread :eek:

Just installed it and booted, everything was fine (I even forgot to turn off the radio and stuff as well my battery is half charged)

From the look and feel I can say damn, if I will ever have something like this on my phone I will never think about changing it in next XXX years :-).

Works fine, response time is just impressive. Touch interface is much better.

I tried calling a friend to tell him I am calling from android, audio works (loudspeaker). After that I didn't manage to get out of the call and rebooted.

Failed to boot it again, stucks on Booting Linux screen... Gonna try with all the stuff turned off.

Keep it up guys. Very impressive so far !
[Touch Cruise Android Development] rhov23:
Can anyone post the full package, so I can put it on the front page?

:)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
There is a new zimage an da new method to boot from the SD and save settings avalaible at http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/

Now we only have to wait anyone who is capable to make the package.

Thanks to dubbeld00 and premy and others..
[Touch Cruise Android Development] X-Kent:
Tried doing everything as the instruction on the site says, I get a kernel panic.

I noticed that the new Haret boots like 5 times faster. At least I get the Linux booting console about 3-4 seconds after I press RUN... If anyone got the new version working please post some tips.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Rroet:
I saw some messages accross the irc channel #htc-linux on freednode. They explained that the vogue (as in the zImage from the site and yes, it's also based for that model) is incompatible to make it run directly on the polaris.

Premy is working on it. But a combined effort (lead by martin__ (from the vogue)) is working on unifying all different branches of code (Kaiser, Polaris, Vogue,... etc) so they have a more combined effort to speed things up on all platforms. When that's done, things will be set in place and polaris development will speed up again :)

Patience is good. We can live a few more days without SD support.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
I just read this french article which explains that google publied a new build of the Android SDK (v.84853) which is exclusively reserved for the member of the Android Developer Challenge.

link : http://www.generation-nt.com/google-android-sdk-probleme-developpeurs-actualite-122941.html

This build can add new functions but when Google will release it to everybody?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Rroet:
This is the specific mail in which the SDK is discussed:

http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/86337bb42ae18c72

ArsTechnica topic: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080715-googles-android-platform-not-so-open-after-all.html
[Touch Cruise Android Development] shippyt:
It's a bit of a contradiction by Google to only release the new SDK for their "open platform" OS to a select 50 individuals without releasing it to the rest of us :confused:

Its really made Android and Google go down in my estimation :(
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Rroet:
I hope most devs tend to ignore it and do the best they can to make it work anyway.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] deradam:
I am trying to get this running on the Polaris with the official firmware. For the first time I had some success and I have seen this red K.I.T.T. thing flashing on the screen :D But then it hang and that was it. Now when I try it again, I just hangs already in HaRet.

I have downloaded a cab-file here: http://www.myhtcphone.com/downloads/14-files/3-file-for-automatic-and-easy-installation

Does it work for you?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] gygy:
Same simptoms here.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
i try the lastest version off android vogue edition i just test the haret.Exe, defaul.txt, zImage and initrd.gz.

Haret run in 2 secondes very fast but android stop booting with an android panic error trying to kill init ...

I think the next release will be very interesting but the 2 files of 123Mo are very big to install n Polaris
[Touch Cruise Android Development] premy:
The gauge you're seeing in haret is the loading of the initrd.

In the previous versions, all of the filesystem (OS+apps) had to be in the initrd (ramdisk).

But the latest zImage now support SD, so all of the OS and apps don't need to be in the init ramdisk anymore, and can just sit on the SD card. The initrd can be a lot smaller (and by the way, the smaller the initrd, the higher the boot success rate). And there can be a _lot_ more apps because they're not in the initrd anymore.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
Is it possible for the next release to release vanilla version off the two big files with the OS and the apps because 2*123Mo i find this a little too much.

I'm going to reupload all files on my SD and lunch his vogue version :) to see.

It won't boot with the default file off the archive
[Touch Cruise Android Development] premy:
Hi,

here's the latest news:

- incoming and outgoing calls and SMS work.

- GPRS works

- SD card reader should work

- new version of the on-screen keyboard

You need to:

1/ download http://www.linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/android_polaris_20080718.zip

2/ Copy it to a folder on your phone

3/ unzip it

4/ update default.txt to include your operator GPRS settings

5/ launch haret-0.5.1.exe

Please report if this works for you.

Cheers.

Note:

This only applies to GSM/3G networks (not to CDMA networks). If you're on a CDMA network, then you should use the android-initrd at http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
Hey i want to test but i don't know my operator gprs settings how can i find it ? Is this that --> http://www.unlocks.co.uk/gprs_settings.php#france or this http://www.vysoo.com/apn.php#402 ???

PS: I have a new bug my /windows/ folders disapear on my Vista pc lol i think i'll pass long time to find how to make it reapear

edit: booting :) ,I see KITT, there is the GPRS icon, no dialer appear when i click on dialer " says application is not responding". i wasn't able to return to the home screen after that, i must click on red button lot of time and it finally work. but nice the keyboard vibrate when i touch it, it's funny :)

I try to add my account with Gtalk and it crach, i see KITT ( red light ) and it restart android automaticaly.

The button Sms don't work for me.

how can i make a "=" with the keyboard ?

Thanks premy you really make a good job for us !!!
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dvdtech:
Don't boot on my polaris (italian official rom).

Previus version was ok.

Thank's

Fab

edit : now boot :-) and test

This version is less stable than the previous one:

Improved keyboard (good)

SMS is not working (no lunch application)

graphic selection loop on application

Stability

Fab
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dcordes:
Hi. Premy's htc polaris machine code is now in the htc-msm git repository at http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm

So if you prefer rolling your own kernel, have a look at this howto http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396782 and replace htckaiser_defconfig with htcpolaris_defconfig.

I would welcome it if somebody could try this zImage which is build from it and report if it works.

http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/zImage-polaris_test.bin

Best would be to replace the zImage provided in premy's bootkit with it and see if it does behave the same.

this is just for testing purpose and should not add/remove any functions, thanks.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
dcordes this zImage have the same bug from tz premy's zImage.

Work fine but i haven't GPRS

I put this I'n in france and i have Orange.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] premy:
Imfloflo,

You seem to have changed the APN from orange to orange.fr in the cmdline you posted.

Did you try with the stock default.txt that's in the bootkit ? I'm also in France with Orange, and it works for me.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
I test with the default settings and as it didn't work i go on google to find another APN settings and many sites says orange.fr not only orange.

I see the reception block without the red cross over it so I think i have GPRS but maps, browser don't work, sms too :s

where are you in france ;)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Rroet:
Premy, I used your rom set, it works. Internet, SMS, phone.

1. phone: incoming and outgoing tested.

2. SMS: incoming and outgoing tested.

3. browser got data from the internet.

Comments from my side:

1. phone calls are always on handsfree speaker

2. The red button (phone call ending) didn't work on the incoming and outgoing calls.

3. graphics issue: When I flip to landscape (flip side) and I open up the keyboard, it still displays the keyboard in portrait.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
Am i the one who don't see the dialer ?? I'll redownload the zip and retest with default settings.

The dialer won't work "the application not responding, "force to quit" or " wait " " and no connetion to GPRS with default settings. I'll try with oters settings

or change this whit 00 or 01 or 02 ?

and what is this parameters ???
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Rroet:
You can only dial via contacts, or via the recently called list.

The dialer app does work for me, but you can't place calls by using the dialpad and pressing the hardware call button... yet.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] premy:
Imfloflo, do you have a regular orange account, or a business account ?

To get your current settings, you can go to:

- Settings/Connections/Connections/Advanced/Select Networks

- you should see something like "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using : Orange World"

- click on Edit, to view the Orange World settings

- Orange World/Edit

- then you can see the access point name (APN) and username

- the password is hidden

- by clicking on the Advanced button, you can see the IP settings, which will most of the times be :

- "use server-assigned IP address"

- "use server-assigned addresses" for DNS
[Touch Cruise Android Development] premy:
Rroet,

thanks for testing. The problems you mention are not unknown, and on the todo-list ;-)

How stable is the internet connection for you ? Some experience some lock-ups after a while.

Have you tried SD ? There's an android application in dev tools, media scanner I think, that tries to read from the SD card.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
@Premy yes i have exacly the same settings that you describes.

Must i close GPRS on my Polaris before i launch android? or do anything else ?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] premy:
No need to stop GPRS.

What APN did you see in the settings page ? If it was orange, and not orange.fr, then you should use the default.txt included in the zip.

What kind of subscription do you have ? prepaid, contract or professional ?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
I have orange ZAP subscribtion, i can go on the internet under WM.

But with the default.txt included it didn't work at all. APN and username := orange ,password hidden.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Rroet:
I haven't experienced a lockup yet. And it gives nice notifications about my bad reception inhouse :) And it automagically resumes internetting when I have a connection again.

Google maps works as well. Although I have a bug with the turning wheel. Whether I turn left or right, it always goes right :) And at a certain point it doesn't stop scrolling right anymore.

I'll get on irc, or find me on skype if you need me to do some stuff on the fly.

And about the SDcard bit: I've started that dev tool and it shows a /sdcard

Is that good?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Scalap:
I have the same problem as you imfloflo even if I use the dial app via contact.

But i can send SMS, so the gprs is working.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] premy:
SMS in android do not use GPRS, so it's not because you can send SMS that GPRS works :-(

imfloflo, I'm going to post a new initrd with some tools to help to debug your problem. I'll let you know when it's available.

Rroet: this initrd will include more SD testing tools.

Be prepared, this is going to be console-based......
[Touch Cruise Android Development] premy:
Ok guys,

so you can download: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/patrick.remy/android/angstrom-initrd-android_20080719.zip

1/ unzip the file your android directory. This should create a new initrd-android file.

2/ then launch haret. After some time, you should get a login prompt

3/ type in 'root' (without the quotes), you should get a 'a780>' prompt (or something similar)

4/ type 'listen&'

5/ type 'gprs' to start the GPRS connection (will only work for Orange in France)

6/ report what's written on the screen, including the 'PCD1,1', 'CONNECT', et al

To test SD, at step 4/, type 'sdmount' instead. And report whatever the command spits.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Rroet:
On it. I'll report back asap. btw.. I'm on irc as well. Or is that too much distraction for your coding right now?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dubbeld00:
Positive:

- SMS is working

- Phone still working

- new keyboard with bigger letters when you touch it

- vibration works

- notification area is working

Negative

- when activating keyboard, it overlays the screen (last 1 or 2 input fields aren't visible), HTC vogue had a solution for this? (resetting screen height to screenheight - keyboardheight)

- mediascanner not? working (only displays /sdcard)

(rroet how did you get it working, (yes I edited the .txt file and put in the right username and password)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Rroet:
For NL t-mobile testers. I confirmed this line to be working for me:

set cmdline "rw mem=128M carrier.mcc=204 carrier.mnc=16 carrier.name=tmobile carrier.apn=internet carrier.ppp.username=tmobile carrier.ppp.password=tmobile"
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dubbeld00:
For NL Vodafone:

set cmdline "rw mem=128M carrier.mcc=204 carrier.mnc=04 carrier.name=vodafone carrier.apn=live.vodafone.com carrier.ppp.username=vodafone carrier.ppp.password=vodafone"

For NL KPN:

set cmdline "rw mem=128M carrier.mcc=204 carrier.mnc=08 carrier.name=KPN carrier.apn=internet carrier.ppp.username=KPN carrier.ppp.password=gprs"
[Touch Cruise Android Development] premy:
Dubbledoo: try pressing the right alt key, you should see the bottom of the screen.

As for the GPRS settings, they could be set directly in the android image, in an sql database. That would save people from having to find the information and edit default.txt. Someone would have to maintain the database though, and regenerate the images with the updates. Any volunteer ?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
ok thanks to personal interesting to my problem :)

So here is what i have on screen :

dont boot at first try again

secondly it boots but when i type gprs& i see nothing on the screen just a new line prompt the same root@a780~#

thirdly i try sdmount and it says

i see ater that

Is it possible to access to the polaris via usb and telnet,ssh, putty and use the PC keyboard ?

Not really sure to all characteres cause the police is difficult to read on the little screen
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dubbeld00:
I'm creating a script which can rip it from both sites... give me a sec
[Touch Cruise Android Development] premy:
& = shift (the arrow above the left alt) + 7
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
Yes i found it, i had typing during 10min on the "ALT" button and trying t find a combinaison ^^

how can i make pipe or < or > to redirect the oupout on a file?