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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
if its unlocked then why not? let the n9600 users flock and confirm..

edit:

i see what u mean:

https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...e-cn-128gb-samsung-crown/sprint-united-states

sprints are evil.

run away and ditch 'em

and looks like cdma is NOT supported after all...huh
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Sprint is (not)renowned for allowing certain devices on their Network.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
edited my post. looks lime its a double nay
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Amen. Was supposed to write renowned for NOT allowing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Fast-T:
You have to get the unlocked US variant N960U1. Works with all providers. I had mine with a T-Mon and now a Verizon sim. No problems on CDMA.

The international version will not work with Sprint or Verizon. I had once a international Note5 and had to buy a new phone.

Bestbuy is selling the N960U1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
So is there anyone using an 9600 on Sprint USA?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Guyinlaca:
Sprint will only allow certain USA unlocked phones on their network. Read the N9600 forums and you'll see that while some firmwares will work with Verizon, they're having a heck of a time finding a firmware that gives both an OEM unlock option and support for Verizon/Sprint bands.

Unless custom ROMs are a requirement, getting the N960U1 is the best you get on Sprint.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] tx_dbs_tx:
Simple answer. No. Sprint or Verizon will NOT activate the IMEI of any international/Chinese smartphone. If the IMEI of the phone is not in the carrier's database it cannot be activated, A while back you could pop in your currently activated SIM into an international phone and it would work as long as you flash the appropriate firmware and use the proper APN's. But today this is not possible. The SIM and IMEI both must be activated with the CDMA carrier Sprint or Verizon. The Chinese/Hong Kong Snapdragon Samsung's DO support all of the U.S. carrier bands but neither Sprint or Verizon can or will activate the IMEI of those international phones. I've already gone through this battle and so has many other people. People who say that Sprint or Verizon activated their Chinese/Hong Kong S8, Note 8 or Note 9 are lying and trying to look like special... Trust me they are not. Unfortunately the only options are to either switch to a GSM carrier and that will open up your phone choices or buy a U.S. unlocked phone like was suggested above. Don't waste you money buying a Chinese galaxy phone because you won't get it activated on Sprint or Verizon. 100% guaranteed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Sprint and Verizon, they're a very fussy bunch of twats it would seem, ATT a close 2nd.

I remember, upgrading from a note 8 to a 9 was a choir compared to when I was with T-Mobile. I'll be setting aside another 30 or so mins to upgrades the wife's note 8 to a 9 when hers comes in on Tuesday, plus time and cost of new sim not included above.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] suzook:
Wrong. I'm using an n9600 on Verizon. CDMA, lte works.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] tx_dbs_tx:
Your Chinese Note 9 is not activated on Verizon. The international IMEI cannot and will not activate on the Verizon network. Your sim card might be activated along with the IMEI of a different phone [simultaneously] but it's definitely not activated. And unless the IMEI is registered on the network, the phone will not connect to the network. Period. Run along.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] suzook:
Ok, I will run along with my n9600 working on Verizon
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] tx_dbs_tx:
How about you provide a screenshot of your "About Phone" in settings and prove that your sim and IMEI are activated on Verizon. Include the "Status" section as well. This will prove it once and for all. I'd love to be proven wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] suzook:
Run along troll. I really don't give a $hit you don't believe me.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] tx_dbs_tx:
Like I said. You'd be the first and only person to get Verizon to activate an international Samsung S8, N9, S9 or N9. Prove your claim instead of getting angry.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
It's his character, he's always a little angry but lovable.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] suzook:
Because I dont like being called a liar. [MENTION=2682809]elevatorguy[/MENTION] can back me up. I just got his hk n9600 working fully on vzw.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] elevatorguy:
Can definitely back you. Just got finished setting it up now:laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] jal3223:
I have Verizon working and activated on a international N9600 as well. I'm glad you know for a fact what we did was impossible. Thanks man!

Also, travel on over to the Mi mix 2, Mi mix 2s section, and the International S9+ (Snapdragon) that all have Verizon working (CDMA and volte working). They would love to hear you tell them how imposible it is as well.

If the phone has the correct hardware and band support, the phone will work on Verizon with an already activated sim card. It's been this way for years by the way.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] tx_dbs_tx:
"If the phone has the correct hardware and band support, the phone will work on Verizon with an already activated sim card. It's been this way for years by the way". I'm fully aware of this however, in recent years this has stopped working and the IMEI is also required for activation.

For example. When I try to activate one of my Verizon Samsung phones I can't just swap my activated sim card from the phone that's activated into my other Verizon Samsung and it work. I have to call CS and give them the IMEI and that activates the phone and it will then work. International phones are no different. You have to provide the IMEI to Verizon or Sprint. If the IMEI isn't registered on the network... no go. Several Verizon network features require the IMEI as well. Without it those features will NOT work. If the IMEI is once again not required then that's great news.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Eagleized:
Hi [MENTION=2313936]suzook[/MENTION],

Can you help me get my hk N9600 working on verizon.

I'd really appreciate it!

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] trace1er:
I'm interested too. Is it as simple as insert your already activated SIM card and you're good to go?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] elevatorguy:
Head over to the snapdragon rom recovery section and you'll find all the information you need.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] doombuger:
Could you post a link to the topic please. I have Verizon and would really love to get the n9600 hk/cn version for the unlocked bootloader, but I want to be 100% sure it will work before spending almost $1000 for a phone and then find out it doesn't work. I've been looking for info on this for weeks and I'm finding mixed answers whether it will work or not. Any info is appreciated. I've been using an unlocked bootloader with "resurrection remix" on my n900v for many years and now I can never go back, but it's age is starting to show..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] elevatorguy:
Posting links always messes up for me just go to that section there's only 2 threads one for root and recovery and one rom thread. If you follow the instructions in those threads the 9600 will work on Verizon the only thing that that doesn't work for me is wifi calling.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] doombuger:
Thank you for the quick reply! I did read the entire 32 page post "[Recovery][Unofficial] TWRP for Galaxy Note9 (Snapdragon) N9600" and they did say it would work for verizon network a few times on page 24, however they didn't specify much about which firmware would be required to do so or their experiences getting it to work.

Do you currently have the SM-N9600 working on verizon? if so, after following the root/TWRP guide which firmware did you choose?

Also if you have magisk does it pass the safetynet ctsprofile/basic integrity checks? Have you tried any project treble roms with this device?

Did you have a nano sim already activated for verizon or did verizon issue a new nano-sim hassle free?

Since i'm using the note 3; i have a micro sim... and am wondering if would that pose a problem?

I'm assuming you went The "Unlocked US (N960u1) firmware" to avoid bloat, but i'd like to verify. :)

Sorry about all the questions but its been several years since i've gone through these processes. i'm trying to gather as much info as i can from experienced personel to avoid hickups. Again any info/ shared experiences are greatly appreciated. thanks again.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] elevatorguy:
Yes I have a 9600 running on verizon all works except wifi calling (which I've never needed) I rooted using the steps in that thread I'm running the firmware that came on the Hong Kong version but running weta rom. I don't know about safetynet I run xposed so I'll never pass. The sim card you may be able to get one I had an activated sim already. The hk firmware didn't have any bloat, honestly I don't know much about the different firmwares I've been on nexus devices for a long time so I'm kinda learning as I go.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] maxie.maverick:
This thread started of as "N9600 on Sprint" question and quickly became "N9600 on Verizon" discussion...

Could anyone comment on how this device/model can be used on Sprint?

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] jphil101:
SM-n9600 registered by Verizon at the store no rooting or flashing required.

Yeah no problem and no firmware flashing or rooting. I just took it to the store and they activated it. Check the pics. The only problems I have is wifi calling and Samsung pay. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[IMG="check1"]https://drive.google.com/file/d/17lb53f4R03L9PdN7AGABz5WXnOn8cX9B/view?usp=drivesdk[/IMG]

[IMG="check2"]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZvYuWv48Ap5lc4Q5inb3dV4o9UZaLRoS/view?usp=drivesdk[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I thought sprint were fussy about white listing certain devices. The models list is normally found on their BOYD page.

Before going further your question should be, Will it even be granted activation on the Sprint network? I doubt it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx:
YEP me too. I hate posters who think they know it all and say you can't do something just because they don't know how.

Sent from my N9600 on Verizon.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] IT_Architect:
Current Situation:

- I bought a second-hand but unused Verizon SM-N960U. I've had phones with a stylus since the Touch Pro2.

- This is my first phone without root.

- I cannot accept Pie because it breaks call recording, a business requirement.

- There is no way to keep Verizon from forcing the unwanted update to Pie. When I flash back to Oreo, it keeps forcing Pie updates.

- I will be moving between the US (Verizon) and Colombia (Claro) and I don't want to deal with Verizon's terrorist attacks on my phone whenever I'm in the US. I might be able to sidestep this by flashing the SM-N960U to the SM-N960U1, but after what I've been through, the SM-N9600 with root and real backups again is looking better all the time.

Questions:

1. Are there any physical differences between the SM-N9600 and the SM-N960U?

2. I hear HK, Latin America, Puerto Rico, Mexico, etc. What is the impact of region and what should I be looking for?

3. What are the Samsung pay considerations and any work-arounds?

4. Anything else you think I should consider?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
get it and root it and ure home free!

forget about spay.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] IT_Architect:
You rascal! :laugh: I'll give up S-Pay for a phone that works where I go and does what I need it to. Do you know the answer to any of my other questions?

I notice there is a lot more firmware's also for the SM-N9600. All I saw was mentions of HK and Latin America on threads. I don't know whether to US or Colombian firmware to have the best of both worlds.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
well u can't flash any other firmware than n9600.

u can tho mod the csc. tekhd had a csc pack that you could flash and get back full US carrier functionality( requires root). not sure if the files are still up but im sure someone somewhere has them.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] IT_Architect:
I don't understand all of that, but something tells me I need to learn. LOL! I know the CL is the modem, BL is the boot loader, AP Android, and USERDATA the carrier stuff, but I don't know how the CSC fits into the puzzle.

I'm not sure what the N9600 bands are or if it varies based on what is flashed or... I also know they make it in DS. I see they have several flash file sets for Colombia for the different carriers and a generic, but then I don't know how it fits the US. I just know with my Note 3, I can flash anything that matches the hardware, and if I flash stock, I can go in and rename the OS updater program and its supporting files, and prevent anything from recreating them. I like factory stuff, but I just want what works best both places and doesn't attack me. I'm guessing that with the unlocked boot loader you can do this without tripping KNOX in case you want to use S-Pay later, or at least I can do that with my Note 3.

I'm checking out 9600s in eBay and software to come up with a plan.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
csc is the carrier features like wifi calling,volte etc.. it does have some bloat. userdat is more carrier bloat and apps. not saying some of the apps arent requires though but tekhd make a nice zip to flash with all the requirements.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] IT_Architect:
Got it! (I just got back)

1. Does csc have the bands then too?

2. Does the region of the phone or firmware, other than supporting the correct bands, have anything to do where a phone will work? E.G. With some things they say, Oh no, that will only work in...

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] IT_Architect:
This is massively helpful. It's true the Pie does not kill call recording. In fact I installed it on Pie. However, on Pie, the recordings sound like staticy radios like you see in old TV reruns whereas under Oreo they are crystal clear. That said, what killed call recording was a policy change at the play store, but I have old APKs. However, that's not where it ends either. When I have Oreo run security policies, it spots the old call recording app and notifies me it needs updating. I can ignore it, but after that happens the app no longer works either, even if I uninstall and reinstall it. I'm not sure if I do or don't get out of that with U1. If I get screwed by it, the only thing I can do is reflash and restore all of my apps if it hasn't poisoned them, and if it has, reinstall the old APKs and have no data. I stand a better chance of getting out of it with an SM-N9600 rooted phone because I can snip the apps responsible for running the procedures and change the rights to where it can't be fixed. Then I have a real image backup too so if something goes wrong, I can TWRP it back exactly like it was, not settings, screen layouts, or any other tweaking missing like I can with my Note 3.

Your timing is good. At the moment you caught me commiserating between flashing this SM-N960U to a SM-N960U1 so Pie doesn't run off with it again, flashing back to T-Mobile and putting it on the block and chasing down an SM-N9600. I've been told you can do that with a modified version of Odin somewhere where you can flash back and forth between a SM-N960U and SM-N960U1. I'm currently looking for a good procedure to do that too. Maybe I can get that going while I'm shopping for a SM-N9600 and then restore the apps to it.

Thanks TONS!

---------- Post added 1st August 2019 at 12:26 AM ---------- Previous post was 31st July 2019 at 11:26 PM ----------

PS: I wonder how real this is: https://www.gogorapid.com/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960u-with-odin-tool/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
its fake.( that root link).

for u to u1:

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/u1-note-9-official-firmware-guide-to-t3927478

now be very careful when switching not to accept any updates by mistake or downlaod too new firmware.

bootloader for U devices( u1 might also get it very recently, u1 always get firmware updates right after when all carriers have finished deployment) have now gotten revision 2.

so watch out. even rootable device cannot go back.

edit

to continue the discussion about n9600 capacity on verizon:

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-9/development/n9-oreo-8-1-usa-t-mobile-efs-csc-t3850796

and band comparison:

https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note9-9163.php#n9600-ds

seems 14 and 44 and 71 might not be there so its not 100% similar as i thought. but it being compared to a n960u of unknown carrier.

but according to searches version is only capable of:

VerizonCDMA 800 MHz, 1900 MHz

2, 4, 5, 13*, 66

so all in all the n9600 is more than capable of running on Verizon.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] IT_Architect:
All I had ever heard is you cannot, which is why I posted it.

I will check it out.

This is exactly what has been on my mind and scarring me. I am in a very narrow space. The Note 8 was missing the new bands and no battery life. The Note 9 U, U1, and 9600 are as new as I can go that still have Oreo. Once I get hit with BL v2, I cannot even get Oreo. jd14771 tried every trick in the book to stop the carrier updates and was not successful. The only ones I've noticed with a track record of being successful at blocking updates to Pie are using the SM-N960U1s. It appears that my only credible options to stop Pie up to this point are the U1 and 9600. With the 9600 I get dual SIM and root to where I can break the update ability of the OS like I did on my Verizon Note 3. Root gives me real backups and all of my network and wireless tools back again too, which would result in me having an updated Note 3. No matter how I look at it, in the mean time, I need to get to U1 before the Verizon Virus locks me into the Pie hole, which is why I wanted to know the best thread to get to U1. Another worry is the Play Store Virus or Policy Virus resetting me to Automatic Updates. That's where TWRP would be real nice to have.

Thanks HUGE!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
on rooted device you can flash a custom rom of your choosing. this include oreo. even if you have a pie bootloader, this should not affect the ability to just flash in custom recovery (twrp)an oreo custom rom. its flashing stock via odin that limits this.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] IT_Architect:
!

My previous reply is a bit of a mess I guess because the Internet went out today for a while and I didn't know I posted the first one so off and on throughout the day I added as I was researching.

True, but it does limit me to custom. I'm on factory that I doctored not to update because I liked stock better. I also have no idea what custom is out there for SM-N9600 or the situation with bands etc. My second post explains that better and what I would need to find in an SM-N9600 to have it make more sense than the SM-960U1.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
there is only 1 custom rom for n9600:

weta. probably in its release history there is both oreo and pie. so if ever u do go for that device and end up on BL v2 for some inexplicable reason then there is that option. plus when rooted updates wont be install-able.

regarding native call recording ill do a test tomorrow and report on the quality.

band wise again, it should be all good. a quick search on xda for n9600 verizon is very promising.

i wouldint hold back if i were you. the satisfaction of a rooted device is unparalleled compared to a locked one. after all at this price( or at any price really), its almost a requirement in my book to be able to do what you want to do when you want to do it. like any purchase, whats yours is yours. why buy a condo when you can buy a house...its good to be master of your own domain.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] IT_Architect:
I'll check the capabilities

Check it on what? Do you have the N9600?

I don't know anything other than a rooted phone. My Note 3 is rooted but you can do it without breaking KNOX. That was before ChainFire sold out on us. However, I never in all of this time wanted to use anything that needed KNOX, but I liked the way the Note 9 can fake a scan. I thought maybe I don't need root anymore. However, for my sacrifices it has rewarded me with constant aggravation. I don't like breaking KNOX, but there are limits to what I will put up with from a phone. I'm not accustomed to a phone telling me how I will run my business and life. We may be standardizing on SM-N9600s if one works out, and with root we could run all of the software without carrying the old devices with us.

ATM I just finished flashing U1 and am doing the video to kill updates. I'm sick to death of waking up in cow Pie every morning. I watched an SM-N9600 go today on eBay. I bought a case, but not the Whitestone Dome because I'm not sure what phone I'm going to end up with.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
ive got an n960n eynos that i enabled call recording on via Canadian csc mods. works perfectly. quality is very good.( no idea if stock had it or not i never run stock. especially on N firmware.)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] IT_Architect:
I'm on the Verizon's U1 firmware at the moment. Looks like no HD voice and no Wi-Fi calling. All going from US U1 to Verizon U1 does is give me the Verizon watermark on boot up instead of Samsung. The big thing that impresses me with the Note 9 is the battery life. It's nuts. It loses ~2% every 3 hours, blue tooth off and wi-fi on. Overnight not touching it it does better than that. I don't see how it can do that. It may not do much different than a Note 4 when you are using it all the time, but when it is idle, it's crazy.

I just had a long conversation with CallHippo. Their web site is wrong. I can port numbers to them and maintain for $15/mo. I'm going to try it on a number and see how it goes.

Right now, I need a break from phones to let my head stop spinning. I like to bulldoze through problems until finished but I think taking a break will actually be cost effective.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
sell/return it.

problem solved temporally

lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] IT_Architect:
1. You brought a new stock SM-N9600 and put a SIM in it activated on another phone, and it just worked on Verizon without adding to have your IMEI added?

2. I've heard people say that with the SM-N9600 that some credit cards work with it like Visa and others don't that do work in the US phones. Has anything changed with regard to Samsung Pay?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
When comparing LTE radios and such it is always better to use Samsung's own regional websites to check and compare specs.