yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] neinfricatu:
The fact that many users report this doesn't mean anything and there is one thing to report it and another to write about this in a forum in a concerned manner. Don't know why you think I said it's rude? I didn't. It's just childish.

The reality is that there is nothing wrong with the battery or the amount of energy it stores, just a bug reporting for a few minutes a lower percentage. Users may choose to believe all sorts of stuff and cry about it or face the reality. We are not kids. Or some of us are?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] aff1c:
Anyone experienced bugs when received call on the screen blanked? Had to reboot back to system? Using latest build los16 + firmware 8.12.10 ... Any solution or known bugs?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Spast117:
Ich have a pretty basic question. I'm new to LOS, how do I update my system without loosing my data again? When I go into TWRP and try to flash a Rom update. TWRP shows me 0mb on all my storage and I can't find the .zip file. I already installed the version on TWRP with working decryption.

Help would be much appreciated.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] arushkurundodi22:
After installing update I can no longer activate assistant by pressing home button
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] hellDr0id:
Hey guys does anyone know how to increase thermal limit ?

All the thermal files in vendor/etc are in Korean language :/ is there any English version? Thanks.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] satan89:
Does the 'Prevent accidental wake up' option work properly? My phone wakes up if a button is pressed or if the fingerprint scanner is touched even when in the pocket or when face down.

Running los16-20181210 with vendor 8.12.10
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] neinfricatu:
Yep, it blocks only the double tap to wake, and I think if you have a call when the phone is in pocket the screen won't wake, but not the power button or the fingerprint.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] L3ibnitZ:
This option is only to prevent wake up with double tap on screen.

This totally makes sense in my opinion. The power button is pretty strong/hard to press and noone does accidentally put his finger on the fingerprint reader.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Stampyron:
Search thread plox
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] joshucool:
Installed the latest build yesterday, great rom overall. However I've found that I can't wake my phone with OK Google even after setting it up in the assistant menu.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] grmyga:
can i use IR camera without GApps？
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] 2WildFirE:
For guy's in here who can't read a couple pages back... :svetius:
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] cRaWnEr:
Is there anyone else missing Play Store notifications? I do not receive notificatios neither when updates are Available, nor when it is downloading apps. Permissions are correctly set, so I do not know if it is ROM related
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Forever Alone:
*FIXED* I cannot connect to my hidden wifi on this ROM. I tried beryllium-8.12.10-9.0-vendor-firmware and beryllium-8.12.13-9.0-vendor-firmware. I also tried Franco's kernel. My hidden wifi just won't show up in wifi list (I added it first, yet it still doesn't show in wifi search list). I have lineage-16.0-20181210-UNOFFICIAL-beryllium ROM

Sol: goto wifi>add network>advanced options>enable hidden network>yes

Thanks https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77861149&postcount=474
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] nihar1024:
Nice update!

I absolutely love the new haptic feedback! It feels a lot better than before! Great update, thanks. If I could request one thing, please remove the single handed mode gesture (swipe on nav bar). I keep activating it accidentally.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] xxsender:
In some earphones (I tried the earphone that come with samsung galaxy s9 - AKG) the microphone doesn't work. but if I connect the earphone to my laptop its work fine.

someone know that issue?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] SamyakJ:
I encountered an weird issue. Google assistant is not working. I long pressed the home key and nothing happened and I also tried ok google hotword. Instead of opening google assistant it opens google app. I have seen in settings it's fine in settings but not working. Please helpppp!!!!!:crying:
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] renel18:
hi guys... i am currently on latest version of los and i am enjoying it right now. i just have few question.. hope someone enlighten me.

1:if i want to backup my current rom which is los, do i need to remove all of my password fingerprint and face data? because that is what i saw in some forum

2:if i want to flash miui rom, do i have to format partition? will it delete the backup that i made through recovery..?

3:can i restore my old backup of twrp that i made from orangefox recovery or vice versa.. as

i am using orangefox recovery and im afraid i might encrypt the recovery again.. thank u.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] SamyakJ:
1. Yes u have to remove password

2. Don't know about it

3. Yes you can as long as you have decrypt your storage . It will not encrypt again

Can you give me answer of mine also
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] renel18:
google is working fine on mine.. maybe because of the gapps you are using..?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Poopsterbate:
I answered this before. For me, i installed pix3lify from magisk repo and it was fixed. After you can uninstall too. It's a lame fix but hey it works.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] SamyakJ:
It worked but long press home button doesn't working. Thank you
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Negi9:
settings>applications>default apps>assistant>choose google assistant
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] SamyakJ:
Thanks it worked. Thanks for your fast reply and great support
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] 2WildFirE:
Lol why no one can't read some pages back?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] SamyakJ:
See I don't know if this topic is discussed or not. There are 275 pages and if I looked it will take helll lot of time. And I think there is no problem in asking any questions here. :D
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] theeta357:
Just change the default assistant to google
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] aenmo:
My phone not responding after sometime while talking directly (without earphone)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] tkmike:
Hi. I have one question. I have pocophone f1, the notch can be hidden like the pixel 3 XL? Or it's like in MUIU? Thanks
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] djibril13:
Is latest vendor 8.12.13 better than stable one ?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] fonfox:
Yes its newer and also gcam works
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] salbakulaw:
Can you give a link of which version of gcam works?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Stampyron:
Do you not know there's a search feature? Just saying :p
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] SamyakJ:
Yes it in developer settings under display cut-out

---------- Post added at 02:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:32 AM ----------

No i am just new at this. :)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] bad1080:
up top "search thread" ;)

but i feel stuff thats been asked over and over should be added to the op or 2nd post and the link to all the different vendor files as well
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] raj7749:
weird issue m facing.

Stock Clock alarm is missed all time, except if i install google clock, then both stock n google alarm works ;) Any1else facing same issue?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Akilesh Akil:
You mean?? GCam works without having to flash the 'fix camera' zip from twrp ?

---------- Post added at 04:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:17 AM ----------

Clear the data of the google app. Give all permissions for the google app. Download the google assistant apk from playtore and open it.

This should work. I used to have the same issue in almost every ROM in my old OP2. Doing this got me fixed many times
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] theeta357:
Can anyone confirm this,

after flashing the latest vendor 8.12.13, I need to flash the kernel again right?

Currently on los16+fr.r6 kernel with stable vendor version
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] hellDr0id:
I flashed that vendor on top of stable vendor and FrancoKernel and gcam works fine after ?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] SamyakJ:
Thanks for your advice. But it has been fixed now.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
nobody has problems with wifi? it does not work for me in any way, i tried xiaomi.eu and if it works :confused:
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] fonfox:
with the newer FW / Vendor was the camera fix with me not necessary. only the stable is probably some old stuff
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] joshucool:
On an otherwise excellent ROM I found that my signal strength is intermittent, it's full bar for 2 seconds and then it went empty for 8 seconds, and the signal strength always comes and goes, even while I'm staying in the same place.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Stampyron:
Are you using Sphinx kernel by any chance?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] timbuctoo:
You're right!

Heck, you're right. I had not noticed the date; saw that it was at the end of the listing and flashed away. Anyway, it's only outdated by two days, but will upgrade to 8.12.13-9.0 nevertheless.

Thanks for pointing out.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] TioCareca:
the difference is that 8.12.13 is beta version and got new libs and V10.1.3.0 is stable and got old libs, (gcam lags in stable and works well in beta for example)...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Avriox:
Dual Sim not working

I have 2 SIMs (both from Drei Austria). When using only one, either of them work fine but when I have both cards in my phone only one of them works. One of them is meant for data only but this one is not working when I have the second sim in my phone (the other one works, even with data). I have tried switching the slots and also tried pretty much all the different combinations in ths settings.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Ollie_h:
Banking app issues after install

A couple of days ago I flashed Lineageos 16 onto my Pocophone F1 with the opengapps package (MTG was giving problems).

Now the main issue I have is that my banking apps, Netflix and 1 or 2 other apps won't work because it says the device is rooted. This is actually incorrect , just the bootloader is unlocked. But I realise this is the new security system of Android.

However, here are the problems that I found while investigating for a solution to the root problem:

1. Trust security system says, "This build was signed with public keys". How to I get a build with a private key? I have never compiled my own build.

2. TWRP 3.2.3 is installed, but the pin/pattern/no password etc does not allow twrp to decrypt the phone. I can use the "cancel" option to get to the menu but then twrp has limitations, see point 3.

3. I am trying to install Magisk on the phone to see if that is a solution for the non-working apps. But after I have transferred the zip file onto /sdcard I cannot see it it when I am in recovery. I guess because of the decrypt issue in point 2.

I have tried to Google for solutions to these issues, but no answers see to be clear as to what the solution is.

So can somebody advise what my best course of action is to get the apps complaining about root to work? Back to the stock android with all the bloatware?

Thanks a million in advance to the person who can help with this.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] aayushgr8:
You have to format your device by typing "yes" in twrp, and then flash the f/w, then ROM, then the force decryption enabler zip. Doing this will solve your problem.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Ollie_h:
Thanks for the quick feedback. 2 quick questions:

What is f/w? I'm not familiar with the abbreviation

And, do I understand correctly that the steps I have to do, in order are:

- format the phone

- install f/w (zip?)

- install lineage 16 zip

- install decryption enabler zip

- install gapps zip
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] reg66:
Yep, and fw is vendor firmware
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Ollie_h:
Ok, I originally tried the f/w at the installation and it gave errors, so I'll try again with a new download. There was no mention of decryption enabler in the instructions I used so i'll add that.

Thanks a ton
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] aayushgr8:
This is the force decryption enabler file. Also by formatting, i mean complete format, including the internal storage, then only you'll be able to flash the firmware.

I don't intend to take any credit for this zip, it wasn't made by me. I'm just Sharing it.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Ollie_h:
Thanks, I'll try again tomorrow.

When I install all these files can it just be one after the other or do I have to reboot between installs?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
I do not have any modified kernel, only lineage OS
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] reg66:
No reboot, just wipe dalvik / cache after
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] AmonX:
I just flashed this last night with gapps full and Magisk. I was having some troubles at first but only thing that doesn't seem to be working is I cant get into the advanced settings of privacy guard. It just crashes every time I do. Everything else seems to work like a charm minus a few apps complaining due to privacy guard at first. Blizzards Authenticator app I had to disable privacy guard, disable wifi, and disable blokada to get working for the first time is one example and has nothing to do with this Rom as a lot of people on stock roms have this issue.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Ollie_h:
After each install or after everything has been installed?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] bad1080:
yes cell reception is all over the place for me too, some reported problems with lte speeds.

my problem is: i have no idea on how to trouble shoot this. would a different kernel do something about this or is it something related to the los rom side of things?

sometimes i get 1/4 poor, 1/4 moderate, 1/4 good and 1/4 great signal

sometimes i get 83% good reception but with 1m40s of no reception

sometimes i get 99% poor reception

and all of it within 5m in the same flat
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Poopsterbate:
I guess it effects small number of people including me. There is definitely something wrong and i am hoping it will be fixed one day. Please let me know if you find a solution somewhere else.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Stampyron:
Then try updating to the latest version of the and clean flash the rom
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] joshucool:
sorry to ask, but how do you track your signal strength like you do in your image? Do you use an app or is it a feature in LineageOS?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Poopsterbate:
An app called BetterBatteryStats. You can find it on play store and it was 2.49$ if my memory serves me right.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] abeloman:
It's also available here on XDA.

Google betterbatterystats XDA edition
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ashishk912:
Cell reception is reduced considerably compared to MIUI. Can this be looked into for the next build. I'm 100% sure that this is mostly a ROM issue.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] neinfricatu:
I don't think so. How do you test the cell reception strength signal? Only visual?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] hugolp:
@ abhishek987 can you tell if this ROM includes manual SIM provisioning?

Info about it and how to add the patch, under Telephony Extensions -> telephony-ext: https://www.lineageos.org/engineering/Telephony/

Also, any idea when this ROM could be added as official LineageOS build?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ajayruchi:
I must admit that this is the smoothest rom I have ever experienced. So thankful to you developer of this ROM thank-you so much. Thank-you all XDA members and thank-you all poco community.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Lupin The Third:
Keep up that thankful spirit! :)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Stampyron:
Hmm, I used thestrix recovery and I dirty flashed without problems. Maybe your zip is corrupted or recovery issue?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] SH1M4BD3:
[MENTION=1237322]Abishek[/MENTION]978 sir hope you can add small options on navigation button what's called it inverted lay-out, so i can change the back butyon on the right side..
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] marc.com:
solution: xposed and module gravytivox
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] SH1M4BD3:
Yup Thanks, but not that way ..complicated from perspective of mine, anyway thanks
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Bonz:
Can I ask a favor? Can you give me the correct checksum of the file? I already downloaded it twice but no luck. There were no problems installing the last two builds using the recovery released by cosmicdan
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] lollyjay:
Here

f09df096b992a07896f6153c2b25aee5

lineage-16.0-20181006-UNOFFICIAL-beryllium.zip
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Bonz:
Thanks a lot. After checking, I have the correct file.

Can I dirty flash the thestrix recovery over the one I'm using.

-- edit --

Nevermind. Successfully patched over previous build

Thanks
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] tunhan9x:
How about the notch?? Is it fixed
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ajayruchi:
Yes it is.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Stampyron:
Great:good:
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] kotamax:
for SD card bootloop, one log before i inserted the card (not sure it is useful?) and one after i inserted it, system frozen, bootloop a few times then reboot with card removed.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] sbhas2k:
Benchmarks doesn't matter. Smoothness of ROM for everyday use is the thing that actually matters

What will you if u get high benchmarks and laggy OS? Will it be of any use ?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] hydromän:
The Rom is a very good Job, thanks to the Dev.

The navbar in this Rom is a Lot too big. Maybe in Future WE can See a smaller one :)

Gesendet von meinem POCOPHONE F1 mit Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Abhimanyu.2004:
He has been posting this same statement in multiple threads.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Perfectdevil:
Nobody gaves A FLYING F@CK abt benchmarks stop spamming threads with ur BS whining benchmark low to miui... Benchmark low than LOS... If you want high benchmark scores go buy iPhone XS and STFU!!!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] IhsanBz:
How to fix touch problem while gaming. Somestimes screen doesnt detect my touch.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] reg66:
After everything :svetius:
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] aSadArtist:
Anyone facing a bug(?) with navigation bar icon (softkeys) colours not changing even when an app uses a navigation bar with a different colour? For example, the bar itself switches to white if Chrome is in the foreground, but the icons remain white, making them extremely hard to see.

I recorded a video of it here (sorry for the video quality, some **** compression over there). I was using Navbar Apps in this video because I tried to see if it would fix it, but as you can tell from the video, opening Chrome from Recent Apps forced the default navbar to draw over Navbar Apps'. I've already uninstalled Navbar Apps but note that I had this problem before and after installing it so it's not related.

*edit*

Apparently this problem goes away occasionally if I reboot my phone. Took me 2 reboots to have the navigation bar icons to change colours based on app, but the problem came back on the next reboot. Will try to capture logcat later when I'm at a computer.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Fak3-1234:
How to disable single hand mode?

When switching app it keeps enable single hand mode which is quite annoying
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Akilesh Akil:
I have the same issue. Digged into the settings but there is no option to disable it
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] walzer53:
Installation without unlocking and rooting possible?

Hi there

I would like to install this ROM to my new Poco F1 and have the following questions on this:

1. Are the links to download the files the international ones? I would like to use the German language after installation.

2. Is it possible to install the files with the described process without unlocking and rooting the device before?

3. Is the ROM stable enough for daily use?

Thank you and kind regards.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] nicothom:
1. Yes. You can change language in TWRP and when you reboot your Poco

2. No, I don't think so. You need to unlock your bootloader

3. Yes, no problem
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] timbuctoo:
Privacy Guard (Advanced) crashing is a known issue

This is a known issue in the ROM. See post# 2566.

I use TugaPower Pie on other devices like the OnePlus One and it works great. All @abhishek987 has to do is pull in the corresponding change for the next/subsequent builds.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Fak3-1234:
It would be perfect if it comes with "raise to wake" feature

So we don't have to double tap the screen or click any button to unlock the phone through face unlock.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] skzm95:
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[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Mathys_F:
Pardon, how do you install the B-S-G on lineage, it always says app not installed. I've tried removing the system app, but I still can't install it. Tried to install using the 6.1.021_MI8_Vc and V1e versions.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] skzm95:
Hi, my Android setup crashed right after installing LOS.

What I did:

1. Flashed the Pie vendor firmware (8.11.15) linked in OP from TWRP (from 10.1.3.0 global, not sure if I should have done that)

2. Flashed LOS

3. Flashed Gapps (Nano)

4. Reboot to system

5. Device asked for encryption password so I just reboot into recovery and wiped data (it's a device with nothing downloaded so I don't mind wiping)

6. Reboot to system <--- Android setup crashed

I ignored and continued, but will this cause any problem in the future?

I also tried skipping flashing the vendor firmware and flashed LOS straight on 10.1.3.0 global but every Android system app crashed so I went back to 10.1.3.0 before trying the above steps again

I also tried running AnTuTu benchmark right after installing LOS but I got very poor scores (63779 for CPU), is this normal?