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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
Well this kinda sucks! I would grab the sane device as you but I can never go to 1+crap and settle for a subpar device.

Also I do wash my V30 with Dawn under warm water. LoL
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
Everyone's use case is different. For me, 95% of what I do is browsing, email, apps so having that massive screen which looks absolutely gorgeous makes up for all the things it lacks. I never use headphones, I don't own / have never used wireless charging (I am sure my attitude would be different if I ever tried it - lol), and again it is water proof, but they didn't pay to have it rated, and I don't get my phones wet.

I don't use finger print or face unlock (I DO NOT want someone to be able to unlock my phone while I am sleeping), I don't even use the "selfie" camera so I doubt I will ever even see the thing pop up. I would buy a phone that had NO front facing camera. If I want a "selfie" I hand my phone to someone and ask them to take a pic ;) I am also 47 years old, so I am old school.

-- Brian
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
I load my phone up with music. That's what brought me to the V20 in the first place.

Wireless charging? Never cared about it till the V30.

Pictures? We both agree on that LoL
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
I'm the same: I can perfectly live without those features that are lacking on the OnePlus. But the ESS DAC is another matter, I won't give that up now that I have it.

That said, I mostly play music at home, so I could continue using my V30 as a DAP, even if I began using another phone.

But so far my V30 still has plenty of life left in it: I mostly only recharge it every 3rd night, and I get 8+ hours SOT (plus music time with the screen off). And it is still plenty fast for what I do.

A bigger concern to me is that LG apparently screwed up audio big time in Pie (see link below). Unless we find solutions to those issues, I'm gonna have to stay on Oreo.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/mus...s-for-the-lg-v30.868978/page-45#post-14992642
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
I'm not moving to pie! I like my navbar the way it is. I also don't want guesstures.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
[MENTION=3167089]runningnak3d[/MENTION]

Brian, favor to ask of you before you leave on hiatus? Can you edit the thread title (advanced edit mode in web browser) to remove the words "up to v20k"? Your U.S. T-mobile H932 root method works past 20k, of course -- even on current firmware -- but that is one of the most frequent questions from newbies, "This only works up to 20k"? ;)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chekeenan:
I've finally been able to get to a stable enough internet connection to try booting into fwul again. However, I'm still getting a failed to start initialize Pacman database amd sort mirrors when internet becomes available. :( Side note, I'm not sure how to MD5 Check my iso file.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
DONE! ;)

EDIT: Also, I am still going to be on XDA -- and if you @ mention me in a post, I will try and reply. I am just not doing any NEW work on LG devices, but I fully intend to support threads like this.

-- Brian
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
Did I do this correctly?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Just froze it in Titanium Backup.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
That's definitely the easiest way to do it ?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Yes, just Freeze it in Titanium, as Josh and Chazz already confirmed. Make sure you do the same to T-Mobile's tracking app while you're at it (com.tmobile.pr.adapt). You can can also consider freezing LDB/MLT (com.lge.mlt, yet another LG tracking service) but I found it to be already turned off in the hidden menu.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
I deleted that system app. I never found a need to open my T-Mobile app.

Edit, so it seems even if you delete that app, com.tmobile.pr.adapt still gets left behind.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Yes, as you discovered, com.tmobile.pr.adapt is NOT part of the main T-Mobile app (com.tmobile.pr.mytmobile). So even if you delete or Freeze the T-Mobile app, com.tmobile.pr.adapt will still linger and do its thing until you delete it or Freeze it too.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
When I worked at tmo com.tmobile.pr.adapt would flag the device model screen for customer service/stores as a rooted device so yes, definitely remove that! I've always just deleted it and had no problems

Edit: sorry for the accidental quote
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
I don't know if it's placebo or not, but seems I have better stand by time

---------- Post added at 01:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:51 PM ----------

Tried to do a multi quote but seems I failed lol
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Disabling these trackers (SRTC in particular) absolutely improves standby time for me, no doubt. I generally get 8+ hours SOT (plus some hours of music playing with screen off) and I only charge every 3rd night. When I plug in, it's usually 60+ hours since last full charge. Even then I'm rarely below 20%.

Now, I rarely play games and I keep the phone in Battery Saver mode much of the time, so factor that in. I have excluded all important apps from Battery Saver, including Contacts (LG Phone app), Hangouts, Messaging/Messages (SMS), Gmail, Gboard (makes swyping smoother), Google Backup Transport, Google Calendar Sync, Google Contacts Sync. Once SRTC and the TMO tracker are killed, I really don't feel that I'm in Battery Saver mode. I have AOD enabled, but disabled when in Battery Saver mode.

Of course this doesn't work for everybody, but it works for me :)

Edit: Current battery usage screens one day into cycle. I had to reboot this morning to fix a Hangouts issue, so that may affect some stats a bit.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
I'll be honest, even if I can't gain root on future V series, I'll still buy LG due to quad dac.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Attaboy! :D

You know I am with you on that. Some of the music I play, I almost can't believe I am listening to a phone, that's how great it is. Good recordings are key, of course, as the phone also reveals crappy recordings.

But I am not sure about buying another LG phone. Certainly not if LG keeps screwing up audio delivery with their software (as they have in Pie). And probably not as long as I can use my V30 as a DAP. One reason I am trying to be battery frugal, instead of just charging every night, is to keep the battery healthy for 3 years or longer.

I think we may have peaked with V30 as the best audio phone: We got MQA over the V20; only issue is the 44/16 upsampling, which we can work around with UAPP as long as we stay on Oreo. G8/V50 may be screwed if they don't find solutions -- and it's a lot more issues than we ever had with V30.

Sorry guys, I am getting so off topic here :o
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
I was under the impression that you can always send your phone to LG and they will replace the battery. Is this not true?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Plus the V30 series is probably the last LG phone to get mass root capability, via the jaw-dropping early Oreo WTF bootloader unlock exlpoit (with Frankenstein conversion when needed) for every V30 except U.S. T-Mobile H932 -- and then [MENTION=3167089]runningnak3d[/MENTION] LAF exlpoit for the H932.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
I didn't know about that. You'd have to pay, right? Certainly after the warranty is out.

Both times I've send in a V30 to LG it ended up being a very long and painful affair, both the LG part and the subsequent struggles with T-Mobile to unlock it again. I would probably be more inclined to replace the battery myself at that point.

Oh yes, Amen to that!

I think I stated in a post a few pages back: Between its musicality, rootability, solid hardware and good build quality, and our developer support and community, I consider myself very lucky to have gotten a V30.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
I can tell you this much, there will be no more LAF exploits. I decompiled the V35, G7, and V40 lafd binaries (the G7 and V40 -- all models use the same binary, just a different kernel), and LG has removed everything that could be exploited. For that matter they even require an RSA cert to READ from the phone in addition to WRITING. That is why the DUMP option in patched LG UP doesn't work on V35 and up models.

So -- that means that the only exploit avenue that is left is finding a kernel exploit, system app exploit, or getting a signed firehose. But, you also need an engineering abl. The V35 has one, and the G7 has one -- which also happens to work on the V40. So all models up to the V40 are rootable (except the TMO G7 and TMO V40). Don't know anything about the G8 / V50 since I just don't care anymore about LG ;)

Yes, there is also the possibility that LG could screw up and have another WTF abl exploit -- but I bet they learned their lesson -- they sure did with LAF.

The cool thing that was discovered (not by me) is that you can force any LG phone into 9008 mode without having to open it up and short the pins (at least the V30 up). I don't remember the key combo right now, but it is in the V35 forums.

EDIT: So you H932 guys that haven't rooted -- probably want to root if you are on the fence before upgrading to Pie when it comes out. If TMO follows their past course, they will increment ARB, and I can guarantee you that they will use the new lafd binary. That means that since ARB is incremented, you wouldn't be able to roll back, and there are no exploits in lafd anymore.

-- Brian
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
If current U.S. T-Mobile H932 owners haven't rooted their phone by now (method achieved August 2018), they don't deserve root nor do they really want it.

Ran into a lot of Droid Turbo owners like that. They only complained about lack of root AFTER an update prevented it. They couldn't care less and did NOTHING all the months prior.

We also had people who would buy phone, eagerly update to latest UNROOTABLE firmware, THEN go look for root directions on XDA -- and not accept responsibility for their own mistake.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
What would be the point in doing this?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
https://xdaforums.com/lg-v35/how-to/bring-to-speed-trying-to-root-t3909527/post79724319#post79724319

For use with Octoplus. I believe that is so far the only way to unlock BL on V35.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
[MENTION=832590]TheDannemand[/MENTION] already answered the main reason -- see additional reasons below....

That is the only way to BL unlock the V35, the G7 and V40 ;)

As for other reasons you would want to. Let's say you had a bad flash, or did something stupid and wiped out laf and boot, and didn't have full fastboot. So your phone isn't in 9008 mode -- but it is still bricked since you can't flash anything since the phone won't boot to download mode, etc., and you can't use a firehose.

In the old days that would require opening up the phone and shorting the test pins to put it into 9008 so you could use a firehose to fix your phone. Now, you can force 9008 without opening the phone.

Also, it is possible to brick your phone so that it is dead but doesn't go into 9008 mode. For example, wipe xbl or abl and you will have a VERY dead phone and no 9008. With the key combo you can still force it into 9008 when it is totally dead.

-- Brian
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] djwuh:
sorry for what might be a dumb question, but has anyone confirmed if this works on t-mobile LG V30 + H932U ? been reading for days and cant seem to find a solid answer. Thanks!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Yes, the ONLY difference between the two is internal memory. Which does not affect anything else in any way.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Yes, mine is a H932UBK (Black T-Mobile V30+).
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
So is this a good thing to buy for future root options? Like a V50 and future V series devices?

I put Octoplus pro and root in Google but got no hits. So I have no understanding of it.

[MENTION=3167089]runningnak3d[/MENTION];79727149 also tagging you for your input as well.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
You don't *need* a box (Octoplus or otherwise) for this to work -- what you need is a signed firehose. Most of those box companies have guys inside LG, Samsung, etc that can leak them the firehose. Then they encrypt the firehose, and all the box is, is a dongle that just decrypts it. OK -- that is not ALL it does if you actually want to take your phone apart and write directly to the UFS NVRAM, but for the purpose of this post it just gets you a firehose.

So, to root with this method you need an RSA signed firehose (this is the file that gets sent to the phone when it is in 9008 mode that allows communication). With the phone in 9008 mode and a signed firehose, and either the box software or QFIL, you can write whatever you want to your device. Now, the limits are still in place that WHAT you write must be signed (if it is a partition that is checked for a signature), ARB is also still checked, and the firehose that you use must match the ARB version of your phone. If you use a firehose that is ARB01, and your phone is ARB00 -- it will be ARB01 when you are done. If you don't have firmware that is ARB01 -- you are now totally screwed. If you are ARB01 and you try to use an ARB00 firehose, it will fail just like if you try to use a firehose that is either not signed, or signed with a different cert than the hash that is for your phone. So, you have to be very careful about what firehose you use.

So your phone is in 9008 mode, and you have a good signed firehose. Now you need an engineering abl (or an abl from another model that has the same signature and has full fastboot). You flash abl (or on the V35 and up abl_a and abl_b), reboot and you now have full fastboot. fastboot oem unlock and then flash TWRP (or on the V35 and up you flash boot_a and boot_b that has had TWRP injected into it). SD845 and greater Qualcomm processors did away with a dedicated recovery partition. Recovery is now embedded into boot.

Talk about way offtopic for this thread -- but what the hell.... ;)

-- Brian
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
It's YOUR thread. You can be as off topic as you want. ;)

Plus it's about possible future rooting of LG phones. I'm not sure what I'll do a year or so from now...

I have one LG V35, not yet rooted -- although I know it's possible, but I don't think there's TWRP yet for that phone.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
LOL -- good point. As for the V35. I have a box emulator that has a firehose for the V35. Unfortunately it will only run on Windows installed on real hardware -- it has massive checks for VMs, and I tried to patch them all out but gave up since it will be easier to just install Windows on one of the PCs I have sitting around. IF (and this is still an IF) I am feeling a bit motivated, the V35 will be my last gift to the LG community.

I need to install Windows on a physical PC, then install the box emu, then I can sniff the firehose as it is being sent to the phone. At that point the firehose is decrypted, so it is just a matter of stripping out some USB headers and saving it off. Once that is done, it can be used with QFIL and anyone can root their V35 without need of a box or box emu.

If I get that set up, and someone with a G7 and a V40 wants to loan me their phone long enough to sniff the firehose, I can do the same for them. That should last you a couple of years ;)

I can tell you that won't be happening this weekend since it is Father's day, and I am going to spend some quality time with my son and daughter.

-- Brian
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] reukiodo:
I have both a G7 and a V40. Where are you generally located?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Awesome post, very informative. It cleared up a lot for me.

I can help you with Windows if that's worth anything. That's something I know. Heck, I can even pick up the PC, install it for you and bring it back, if that works better for you.

Edit: Or we can just meet, install the box emu on my PC and sniff it on that. Whatever you prefer, including nothing.

Enjoy your Father's Day weekend.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
Happy father's day!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
I forgot that you are local. Hell, it would be much easier to just swing by and install it on your PC ;)

I will be in touch next week. Heck right now I am still out of town. Went to my mom's memorial, and decided to stay for a small vacation.

[MENTION=9149864]engMTW[/MENTION] I *will* be mailing your G6 back on Monday.

-- Brian
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Cool, just PM me. Wed evenings are pretty much the only timeslots I have during the week. Sometimes Tue nights, but those are harder to predict.

Does the emulator and/or your sniffing tools have particular requirements? We can use either my small laptop (which I carry to meetings and could take to your place) or my main desktop at home.

I'm going to make an image backup first, in case something goes wrong -- or in case some of these tools from exotic lands should come with unexpected payloads ;)

Again, enjoy your time off.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] reukiodo:
[MENTION=3167089]runningnak3d[/MENTION], do you still need/want a borrowed G8 and/or V40 ?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
I need to find some time to either build this Windows box, or get with [MENTION=832590]TheDannemand[/MENTION] .. without a setup to sniff the hose, there is no point.

My life is still very hectic right now, so it will probably be a bit.

-- Brian
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bigcletus:
Hi, I just received a H932 to give this a go at. It came with software version 10c so I used LGUP to flash 10d and it seemed to work fine as the phone is back up and working fine. I used the "upgrade" option in LGUP as the instructions in the first post only mentioned to use "refurbish" if needing to downgrade from a later version.

Initially when I flashed the kdz, I had not yet unlocked the bootloader but I have since done that.

I was going to use LGUP again for the next step in getting the H933 laf on, but LGUP is still reporting the device as 10c, even though in settings->about phone->software version shows as 10d. Is this normal or am I being overly concerned?

Also, I'm using a windows 7 PC with LGUP, and I had to put the patched LGUP files in c:\program files, not c:\program files (x86) as the error indicated the wrong file path.

last strange thing, the phone arrived and appeared to be brand new, with software 10c but the box had 10d printed on it and a manufacturer date of 4/2018. I thought that it seemed fishy the phone software was older than the printed label on the box.

Thanks for any input.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] reukiodo:
What kind of windows computer do you need? I could ship a small laptop also. Windows 7? 10? Only need USB? or some special ports?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] idntknoyunw:
just to qualify myself I want to start off and say that I would equate my talents to a wannabe.

With that out of the way a couple points that I see possible the reading of the file showing c as opposed to d I would hope that it would be a reboot the Windows 7 computer and maybe reboot the phone and start for a new read. The next point would be the x86 is 32-bit systems so that would explain that possibly? And then the date on the software being older than the date on the manufacturer of the phone? Would make sense to me that it would take a product that already existed IE the software and then build a phone and put that software in it. if the software was a newer date than the manufacturer of the phone it wouldn't exist it would be in the future? What do you think I don't worry if you put the hammer down on me.

I see my theory on x86 is most inappropriate because it probably relates to loading Android on the computer.

Android x86 Tutorial Helps You Load Android on your PC
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] djwuh:
Hey guys. I have h932 on stock 20s . After successfully rooting, as recommended in the op, I replaced laf with a second version of TWRP. Everything went great throughout the entire process. Unfortunately I have to revert back to stock to return the device for a loose USB-C port.

To get back to stock for the return can I just take Ota update? Do I have to flash h932_laf.zip from the Op first? Or am I better off flashing FullStock and StockLaf in TWRP from here? https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/development/stock-t-mobile-lg-v30-stock-collection-t3917560

Or should I use LGUP to flash kdz?

Any advice here would be awesome. Normally going back to stock isn't that difficult but I've never had two versions of TWRP before so I'm a bit confused.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
Flash full stock and laf. Then you can LG bridge and then even lock the BL if you want.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] djwuh:
Cool, with LG bridge I would just let it search for and update the software right? And sorry but as far as locking the bootloader could you point me in the right direction on the correct way to do that? Seems there's a few different ways and this phone is so particular.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
I would just flash 10D zip with 10D LAF. After then LG bridge to latest update.

Then adb fastboot boot bootloader.

Fastboot OEM lock.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] djwuh:
I owe you one. Last question before I fastboot oem lock, do I need to check or uncheck "allow OEM unlock" in dev settings or does it not matter since I'm locking the bootloader?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] BROKEN1981:
I don't know if it matters but I kept it to allow OEM unlock. Also as a precaution to make sure LG bridge worked, reboot to recovery to make sure it's stock.

When you use LG bridge, you have to use repair option.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Long time ago I remember someone mentioning that flashing 10d KDZ would clear the unlock counter. I seem to recall it was [MENTION=5070414]Josh McGrath[/MENTION] (who sacrificed more H932s for the cause than I think anybody) but could be wrong. Amazing if that really works, and worth trying.

But of course you'd need to re-lock BL before flashing 10d KDZ. Or you'd have to re-flash 10 KDZ after re-locking it.

In any case is it important that all partitions be back to a signed stock version (including recovery and laf) before re-locking BL, since they will be signature checked on boot once it is re-locked.

So I guess I would flash 10d KDZ as refurbish and re-lock bootloader (as [MENTION=5631635]BROKEN1981[/MENTION] suggested) then re-flash 10d KDZ as refurbish to clear the counter.

I hope I won't have to find this out for myself (more warranty repairs), but my screen has become overly touch sensitive lately, so I'm, afraid I may have to :crying:
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] djwuh:
Does anyone know where I can find TWRP flashable 10d stock laf? Been searching for hours and the only one I can find at the following link doesn't match the md5 provided

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/development/stock-t-mobile-lg-v30-stock-collection-t3851481
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
I saw your post in that 10d thread. Sorry, don't have that.

If you are merely looking to get Download mode working so you can flash 10d KDZ, then I'd say just flash 20s stock laf from the 20s thread and proceed to LGUP.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] djwuh:
trying to get back to full stock for a warranty exchange. Should I flash 10d kdz in TWRP then Flash 20s kdz then 20s stock laf then back to 10d with lgup in order to relock the bootloader?