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[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] F5:ed:
Yeah, looking forward for your pictures tonight.... because I don't believe you got that result (because of LKT alone).

1. Not even the developer says it - at the most 1-2 h extra SoT per cycle

(OP, https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/xz-lxt-1-0-insane-battery-life-12h-sot-t3700688)

2. The most - if not all - LKT claims to tweak or implement are already included in "real" kernels like HolyDragon, blu_spark, arter97, etc so in the best case LKT doesn't make any difference at all but in the worst case increase the battery drain and/or performance or even create a soft brick when you combine a ordinary kernel with LKT.

3. Some developers says that some of LKT' tweaks are questionable

) (AOXP kernel, https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=79001901&postcount=2), and HolyDragon

(you use his kernel, dosn't you?) says in his OP

= leave it as is (HolyDragon, https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-6t/development/kernel-holydragon-t3878107)

4. I have tried LKT. On my device I got very poor result when I combined it with blu_spark's kernel (and blu_spark is one of the best kernel I have tried).

My personal opinion is that LKT may have some effect on your device if you doesn't use any kernel, but to combine kernel + LKT will not help at all, or even create bigger issues because of the conflicts LKT may create.

Dude, send your pictures now (or it never happened) ;)
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] ..Cory..:
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[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] F5:ed:
You wrote:

Besides you are calling me names and are rude - and that comes from a guy who practically seems to live his life on XDA (2300 posts...) - I still don't get what you are trying to proof.

I'm glad you are happy, but I'm sorry if I am mr. Party Crusher here, because.... you wrote before:

Now you send pic's with 5 h SoT on 48 hr (+14 h left) total use. Is that good? No, it is not... it's a result I have read people complaining about in this thread.

And let's do the math: you "have gotten a WHOLE EXTRA DAY out of a full charge!!!" also, meaning that this fantastic mod LKT have helped you to squeeze out an extra 24 hr otherwise your result would have been just 5 h SoT on (60-24=) 36h in use. That is not good.....

Alternative, according to the dev of LKT you will gain 1 hr extra with his mod, meaning you would end up with just 4 h SoT on 60 h use w/o LKT. That is not good....

When I look at the apps you have used, none of them are known as battery drainers, so it's a mystery that you have gotten that poor result.

But, in the end you are of course entitled to your own experience. When you are happy, I am happy. Enjoy, my friend :highfive: :good: :rolleyes:

Edit: I have presented my 4 arguments why I mistrust a mod like LKT, and invited you to present yours. That was all. Can you, are you able to, do the same?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] ..Cory..:
Final

- Latest stable OOS stock ROM

- latest HDK kernel

- LKT with Performance profile enabled

Over 3 (work) days, around ~80 hours! :svetius:
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Royal King:
Wow that's amazing. How was your performance before LKT and HDK?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] ..Cory..:
I would say that there honestly is no difference in performance, especially since I'm using the Performance LKT profile. I tried the Balance profile just to try it and still didn't experience much of a difference in the performance either!

I would highly recommend :svetius:
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] D3dgot:
Hi, I ve bought the op6t 2 days ago. I depleted the battery to 0% and charged it for the first time to 100%. Now it is at 31% with 3 hours and 25 minutes of screen usage and 30 hours of idle time. Is this normal since in my opinion 3 hrs and 25 minutes is not that much considering the 3700mAh battery or is this because the battery need some charges before it calibrates? Thank you in advance
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lordcheeto03:
Same boat.. while waiting on my 6t to arrive I read all these threads about unreal sot... 8 hours, 9+hours sot... People bone stock getting those results.. I don't game, no social media, just YouTube, chrome, and text messages, and I'm lucky to get over 5 hours sot.. nothing that would really suck battery, and most everything is set to restricted and no background data and I still can't break 6 hours...
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] reppi:
I don't know why people have such different SOT with the same phone. Of course app usage differs a lot but with light usage everybody should get easily 8+ hrs SOT.

Haven't used stock kernel for months but there shouldn't be such a huge difference just because of the kernel. Apps are usually the drainers.

I'm getting around 10 hrs SOT over a two day period. Light usage so normal messaging (telegram and WhatsApp) , YouTube, browsing (kiwi Browser) , social media etc. No gaming. No Facebook app (use friendly or browser instead), no snapchat as these are real drainers.

I debloated apps I don't use anyway like lots of Google stuff. Google app, Chrome, play music and video, duo etc. I don't keep apps I don't or very rarely use and Google apps seem to drain a good amount of juice anyway.

In battery settings I turned off adaptive battery and restrict background usage manually for almost all apps except messaging apps, kernel manager and stuff that needs to run in background to work properly.

I'm using servicely app to block wakelocks for the same apps I restricted background usage.

Using auto brightness and wifi at home of course. With mobile data I get a bit less SOT depending on the signal quality.

Black UI where ever possible.

Using smurf kernel with balanced profile btw.

So again, IMO it's not the ROM or kernel to blame for bad battery. Most of the time it's one or more specific apps. You can even check better battery stats for drainers and wakelocks yourself as the OOS battery overview is not precise at all.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lordcheeto03:
It only really drains down in active use, my idle drain is maybe around 1-2% over an 8 hour period.. GSAM tells me apps are the culprit, mainly with both Kernel (Android OS) and Android system getting the top drainers by far.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] reppi:
Can you send a Screenshot of GSam? Specifically processes, apps held active and wakelocks.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lordcheeto03:
I will do that. I'll let a little use rack up and I'll post those screenshots.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lordcheeto03:
Here's close enough to a full cycle to see what I'm talking about...

The battery screen along with GSAM.. I used Netflix and YouTube a little more than I normally do, and I snapped a few pictures/videos of the kids, but as you can see, my SOT to battery left ratio is horrible either way; 3.5 hours sot and 25% battery remaining...
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] reppi:
Looks like messages is draining a lot of your juice. It shows over 50 min of active usage. Have you been using it that long? GSam says you haven't really so I would start with clearing cache and data of the messaging app probably.

Kernel drain is also quite high but it could be related to the messaging think. Otherwise I'd try another kernel like smurf.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lordcheeto03:
That was actually my 2nd cycle using Smurf kernel.. I didn't really use messages that much, obviously I did text the wife throughout the day, but not as much as the battery screen says. As it shows, I did use YouTube, Netflix, and the camera.

Speaking of messages, I have noticed within the past couple weeks, back even when I was still on my 3T, messages would sometimes start chugging juice... My 3T could easily get 5.5 hours sot, except for some random times when messages would act up (according to the Android battery screen, anyway). I'd check my phone, have 40% left, check it an hour later and I'd only have 10 or 15% remaining.. sometimes it would act up, sometimes it would work correctly..

I also noticed on the 3T, and have seen it off and on since I began using the 6T, Chrome sometimes does this too; just not to as great as extent.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] reppi:
That's really weird as I've never had or even heard of that messenger problem. But here we go, i think we found the culprit.

Is it the stock SMS app btw? I'm from Germany and it's called SMS/MMS here. Just wondering.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] reppi:
Second day with lots of picture taking at max brightness with gcam today and some flashing in TWRP which sucks a lot of juice. Pretty happy with it.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lordcheeto03:
It's Google Messages. I don't use the messages for web, smart reply, none of that fancy extra stuff. Using the camera yesterday was through the camera app, not the capture picture function in the messaging app, so that's not a possibility. The thing is, it showed Messages as having a high drain yesterday, yet today it's at the bottom of all the lists, negligible drain.

I saw something in the GSam entry for messages, com.google.android.apps.messaging.rcs

Since my carrier is AT&T and thus doesn't support rcs, could that possibly be part of the issue? Would that be something like fast dormancy, where if your carrier supported it, good.. but if your carrier didn't support it, it would hog your battery?

Also, stats for today are nearly identical, except it reflects the difference in use from yesterday to today. 48% battery, 3 hours sot. Today I've done a lot of reading in Chrome, no Netflix, only a couple minutes of YouTube.. GSam reports accordingly; app sucker shows Chrome as number 1, Android System, then Kernel (Android OS).. the stock battery info page also reflects; Chrome is the top app, with YouTube next, then OnePlus launcher And everything else with 1% or less... Along with Messaging.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] reppi:
Interesting. I would uninstall messages and use stock app for now to test if anything changes. That would be my first step.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lordcheeto03:
I froze Messages, turned off adaptive battery (as I read earlier that you turn it off, so I figured I'd try it) and decided to see what happens.. installed a little idle game, Universal Paperclips, just to have a reason to have my screen on; and had YouTube going for a decent bit of the time... I can say my active drain does indeed look much better, but Android System

and Kernel (Android OS) are still showing that they weren't exactly behaving... That being said, this cycle, albeit probably less resource intensive than my normal usage, attained the best sot so far at 7h22m with 12% left... If my sot could routinely be like this, I'd never complain.

I downloaded BetterBatteryStats to see if I could maybe get a better idea of what exactly out of those 2 are draining... I'm not sure if I achieved that goal, but here's screenshots.

One thing I noticed is that BBS says that out of all the CPU states, I spent 100% of the time at 1.13GHz... (if you look at that particular entry closer, you'll see it says I actually spent 126.8% of the time at that state). The time spent in deep sleep isn't very concerning to me either, at least not for this entry as I barely let the device have any real idle time; I was just trying to see how long it would take to drain the battery with the screen on. Perhaps if that was my normal usage I would wonder about that.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] reppi:
Glad to hear.

Sth is still going on there. Over 8hrs of power management service wakelock is definitely too much. And Android on alarms page in BBS is not behaving normal as well. What does it show when you tap on it?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] reppi:
That's what mine shows.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] ..Cory..:
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[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lordcheeto03:
I obviously have already charged my device again since those screenshots, so I'll try to do it again later on tonight after a fair bit of use and see what it says.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lordcheeto03:
Since using the OnePlus Messaging App, Google Messages hasn't shown up on the list (obviously because it's frozen/disabled, but the OP Messaging took the place of Google Messages.

Here's screenshots from today's use, I'm down to 50%, with 3h45m.. if it continued this way I'd be on track to hit 8hrs sot.. but almost all of my use today has just been browsing on Chrome. An hour of YouTube, that's it..
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] reppi:
Please show what BBS shows when you tap on Com.andoid.gms.

Concerning the wifi connectivity wakelock you can check and disable the notify on wifi network setting in wifi settings as well as the continues search for WiFi networks in GPS setting under search.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lordcheeto03:
Here's today's BBS screenshot requested .
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] reppi:
Thanks.

It's got quite obviously sth to do with sms services. So you were probably right concerning this RCS thing and AT&T but I honestly don't know any solution for that. I don't even know what that is TBH but probably you have to change sth in network or APN settings?

Sorry I can't help further.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] MatheusPimentel:
How you guys can get SOT +9h and can get 2 days without charger???

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[IMG="How you guys can 9h + SOT and 2 days of battery?"]https://imgur.com/a/02U0N2y[/IMG]
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] efkka23:
Dont play games
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] efkka23:
Beta8

Bam bam
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] KaSrAHiDe:
Totally satisfied after Oxygen 9.13

- Don't forget to clear cash after the update
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lendawg:
Pretty impressed with 9.0.13 so far I must say.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] robbieast:
What kernel and settings are you running??
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lendawg:
Actually just stock. When I first flashed 9.0.13 battery life was meh, so I factory reset and kept stock and these are my results. I flashed xXx no limits today though along with renovate so we'll see how it goes. I'll post my results in a few days.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Sipi1302:
Oneplus 6t with stock OOS beta 8, no root, with some frozen google aps
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] robbieast:
What apps do you have restricted?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lendawg:
Just these.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Cablespider:
I picked up the 6T Friday. Ran the custom ROM marathon, went back to OOS and let it settle. I'm certainly pleased.

Tmo convert. 9.0.13. Stock kernel. Sysconfig Patcher. Froze a bunch of apps including most of the Google crap. No kernel voodoo or whatnot. Mostly wifi until 35%. Data raped the battery from there.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] F5:ed:
Impressive result! I'm curious on the Sysconfig Patcher. Can you elaborate why you use it, and with pros and cons?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Cablespider:
I use it to tame Google Play Services. Universal GMS Doze is a similar mod.

https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/module-sysconfig-patcher-t3668435
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] F5:ed:
OK, I will give it a try.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Kranoner:
nice sot :) nice to see you here :p
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Cablespider:
Hey, brother. Long time no see. I hope all is well.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] F5:ed:
If I understand it correct, the benefit is less battery drain when phone is on idle/sleep. May this mod work on other phones than OP6t, but this mod seems to interfere with the OOS - I got a increased battery drain with this mod..... unistalled.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] lordcheeto03:
Started using ForceDoze, Greenified a bunch of stuff, and I think the single biggest thing I did was turn off Google now, or the "Ok Google" hotword detection..

After doing all that, I'm well on my way to 8 hours SOT.. over 4 hours with over 50% left... 9.0.13, Smurf Kernel...
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] shaharofir:
A lot of Twitter, Feedly, medium, Flipboard

Spotify - about 2 hours per day

Wifi/mobile always on except for nights(AP at home)

A little bit more tuning for 8 hours SOT

Havoc, Smurf, Magisk
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Oviboss:
Latest Bootleggers ROM.

Tons of wakelock and services enabled / running and still get outstanding battery life!
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Akash Sukhija:
9 hours of Screen On Time on Stock 9.0.7.

Rollbacked from 9.0.13 using msmdownloadtool. :cowboy:
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] cultofluna:
Why you rolled back?...
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Akash Sukhija:
I wasn't satisfied with the battery life on 9.0.13. I was getting around 7 hours of SOT.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] bastele1130:
Could you please elaborate "battery optimisation"? Does it mean that you turned off the adaptive battery feature as well as well as ambient display?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] leonard208:
18 hours standby and 8 hours 22 min SOT

Stock rom Hdk Kernal + LKT + Sysconfig Patcher + Greenify + Naptime

ALL social apps not dozed/Greenified
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] bkdroid13:
onePlus 6 T

its' good device.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] efkka23:
How yuo

How yuo go to 9.0.7? I see 9.0.11 in msm
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] g0d0fmischief:
You can find the msmtool for any previous versions really.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] F5:ed:
Thanks for sharing - and don't get me wrong - but isn't your combo Hdk Kernel + LKT + Sysconfig Patcher + Greenify + Naptime a massive overkill?

I mean, LKT should not be used together with any kernel as it probably try to do same things (and then will interfere). And what about Sysconfig Patcher, Greenify and Naptime - they all tries to save battery - but isn't that interfere with both stock's own optimize apps as the kernel's (HDK in this case)? If you use that many mods, you may end up with a bad experience....

Anyway, the SOT do not impress on me (I normally get around 9-11 hr SOT on 48 hr use, and my "pers rec" is 16.5 hr) but this also heavily depends on what kind of apps you use. Therefore it would have been better if you also included the print out of your apps usage.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] leonard208:
It works fine for me and 90% of my usage is Netflix / hotstar and maybe some Instagram, whatsapp, youtube etc

Also i replaced Sysconfig with gms doze ( the latest does not doze the play services, just optimises it a bit.

Also i added amplify to control most of the alarms and, wakelocks

Been using it without any problem till now

Also i have no delay in notifications at all.

And I've also turned of adaptive battery
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] F5:ed:
Yeah, but do you think all those mods will help you - you did not answer my question.....

I woluld say: keep it simple - choose a desent kernel (like Holy Dragon Kernel), outerwise leave it.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] MarcoLK:
With Everything stock, I get ~6h of SoT

Very good in my opinion.

Coming from a OP3 with only 2-3h
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] bnutz8:
My experience is comparable to yours. ~6 hrs SOT. Best I have ever witnessed. My gf just got the S10+ yesterday (I know, I know, I tried my best to talk her into getting the OP 7Pro but my efforts were thwarted by her love for Samsung). Now I get to compare :)

Added image to show charging time from 1-100% in 72 minutes.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] rob_z11:
I never got this type of screen on time ever. I had mi8 which I gave it to my wife, and had leeco pro3, but this is just outstanding. I am never one to brag on, but this is something that worth sharing. Not big on gamer or social media. Mostly browsing and forums
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] aesoprock:
I've seen better, but ok. I'm not complaining.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Rynoh97:
This phone is nuts compared to my old iPhone 7! 24hr standby and just under 8hrs of sot.

I nornally get around 6hrs of sot daily.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] HarshBoy99:
Lol restrict XDA app.?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Sharma_Ji:
The adaptive battery recommends that xda has higher background battery usage and restrict it.

It happened with me also.?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Rynoh97:
And Contacts is also restricted :confused::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I get 7-8hrs SOT easy. I get home from a 8-9 hour day with 50-60%, and easily get 4-5 SOT just off of that on WiFi.

Diggin' this battery life.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] jirka607:
Where are you guys getting this sot... Are you on stable or open beta?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Amespejo:
Hi, bought this phone 3 weeks ago, this has been the best sot i could get till now. Less than 40 minutes of gaming and mostly WhatsApp. Always great signal, half day with wifi and half day with mobile data. ,Any opinions and suggestions?

[IMG="first two are best sot, the rest are today use"] https: //imgur .com/a/qhNNa4d (separated cause i cant post images nor links yet
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] niteshnandi:
Overall great
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] athulda:
Everything stock, normal usage! :victory:
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] hougga:
6 to 8 hours SOT overall moderate usage.

6hours with GPS on for Waze and 4G on.

I think it's okey.. Was excepting more specially am not a gamer anymore. Just looking for speed multi-tasking ?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] efkka23:
Beta 16

Beautiful
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] renzito:
Hi everyone,

since there's a lot of people getting really good sot, I was hoping to get some help. As you can see from the attached images, my sot is quite bad as of pretty recently. I do use a bunch of very battery intensive apps like Snapchat and COD and PES, so I don't expect obscene amounts of sot, but I feel like I should be doing better than 3-4 hours of sot.

(I think Android system might be one of the problems)

Any suggestions? I'd prefer not to have to factory reset or do anything that could delay notifications. BTW, I'm on the latest omega kernel, which has worked for me before (and used to grant me over 5 hours of sot on a normal day)
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Michalec:
I'm not sure how it's possible to get more than 5h SoT. I have wifi/mobile data, bluetooth and NFC always ON. Most of the time on WiFi. RenderZenith kernel & Stock .16

Any suggestions? Maybe it's good, because of always turned wifi/data/bt/nfc on??
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] cultofluna:
Getting great battery life on the Q beta
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Mr.Vag:
Better than latest stable?

I tested only for 2 days..was not bad but not better...

Also do you see worst video stabilization on Q?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] cultofluna:
Better than Pie... for me...

Didn't test this yet...( Video stabilization)
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Mr.Vag:
Plz give a try and tell me if you want. Its only my damn mind or is true! :)

Thnx
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] PattayaGlock:
So far my best has been 53 hours between charges with a little over 5 hours of SOT. I am running the Omega kernel + xXxNoLimits.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] cultofluna:
Video stabilization is great on Q ...

Just checked..
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Zaihanzainal:
All stock A10 stable... I'm happy ?
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] mcglick:
Up to 18hrs sot on stock Pie ob17. Average is more like 15 over 2 days.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] mcglick:
What's your point? I use adaptive brightness.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] crusht:
Those with bad battery after A10 try sideloading whatsapp from aptoid or other source. Mine updated to what I think is a beta version and now my screen percentage is up at number one again. For a few days whatsapp was burning more than the screen. Got 9.5 hours yesterday.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] PapaMag:
Android 10.0

Omega Kernel
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] crusht:
New A10 record. Light usage, any app I don't need in background turned off, and some midnight browsing with low brightness. Important: whatsapp updated to 2.19.338 through aptoid (might be a beta) since regular version was killing battery.
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] Lacster:
I get between 6 - 7.5 hours of screen on time depending on usage ^_^
[OnePlus 6T  Real Life Review] KitsuneUK:
I'm never hitting above 5 hours on my 6t... Running rooted A10 - I am a heavy user of the phone but I'm still disappointed by this.