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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
I love MIUI but If any kind of Xiaomi phone with pure Android would have best dev support, best roms, much mor roms than I want to get that phone.

I forgot to mention that I hunt for from low to mid budget phones. POCO can be bought by me i it turns out that he wins my criterua,
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] YasuHamed:
I bought Redmi Note 5 Pro due to the FLASHING brochure showing 6gb ram on 275USD ! however after i bought i found following problems and I am actually 70% regreting my purchase!

1. MIUI has keyboard switch key coming in notification panel so every time if i have to switch Gboard to Swiftkey i must pull down notification panel and make the switch (where all other phones in market has that keyboard switch key on navbar (far right)

2. OVERALL very low speaker and call quality! , even after mending mixerpath file! i could not enjoy the music! it becamse only 25% louder , no matter what values I play with ..

3. the CAMERA, the secondary dual camera is more of a cosmetic effect! i didnt find any options in camera app to take 3d fotos or optical zoom etc

furthermore

4. due to my daily aggresive social media usage and typing! i had try custom roms! ( xiaomi shipping unlocked phones to middle east) so i simple flashed various custom roms ( PE, RR6.2, crdroid, lineage, Omni, ArrowOs) and in all the ROMS, whatsapp acts funny when calling or hearing audio notes! and overall volume still low! , only in ArrowOS i could find my self accepting the volume quality (android p ) , but whatsapp keep making android P reboot...

now the GENERAL TRICKY PART which btw made me think i would never buy Xiomi phone again! even Pocophone on $300 or even if it drops to $100 !

A, if your device get BRICKED in flashing custom roms, there is NO WAY to connect it in EDL mode for you to FLASH THE ORIGINAL ROM VIA miFLASHER

B, you must remove back panel! remove battery wire and short two points to make RN5p goto EDL mode! and

C, on top of that YOU MUST HAVE AUTHORIZED MI ACCOUNT TO FLASH otherwise it will fail....

D, if you wana save your bricked RN5P, take it to service center even for flashing and spend money! and for me, Dubai is the only place service centre of MI , so i have to send my device to UAE in order to get flashed!

so that made me think that xiaomi in 2018 is ONE TIME BUY and THROW device :(

the question is not WHICH MI phone should u be buying?

the bigger question is , are you aware of the complications comes with all 2018 xiaomi phones ?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] Zanr Zij:
1. Keyboard: many others are the same

2. No call problem so far

3. No 3D, optical zoom for cheap phone :)

4. You will get bricked only when you go from ARB4 to ARB3 Rom. Of course I also don't like this Xiaomi policy

The end: show me a better choice, quite good phone with very good battery life :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] YasuHamed:
1. keyboard: i tried 8 custom roms and everyone has AOSP navbar handler

2. whatsapp: i was talking about custom roms. i have used whatsapp on Sony on Omnirom. it never gives bugs but whatsapp on Omnirom on RN5p acts funny

3. Camera: as i said the secondary camera is more of an cosmetic affect

4. my REDMI3s got bricked when i was simply flashing MIUI7.5 via twrp. TWRP hung and the device never booted! so there is strong chance that twrp may fail to flash properly! . Irrespective of whatever made your device bricked (anti rollback policy or bad flash) the point is, I dont have control in my hands

since the OP hasn't asked anything about battery life and mainly he wanted to have device within xaiomi having many custom roms experiment with SO my answer was based on his question---however since you've asked a decent device with good battery life then for you NOKIA 8 would be the best in budgeted midrange devices! ! its almost same price range! SN845/4000mah battery/ dual cameras/ 64/4 with usb-c and LOUD speaker! Frankly i would have bought Nokia8 but the company don't officially allow unlocking BL so there arent much roms available!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] Zanr Zij:
1. Keyboard: if you like to switch keyboard, just choose what you like: 1 more action with Miui or AOSP/PE Rom which many available for you.

2. The way you use keyboard and whatsapp not the OP question so don't need to talk too much about it. Just your style.

3. Cam: you have option: change Miui Cam setting or using GCam which give you much better quality

4. No ARB for RedMi3s and most other Xiaomi phones so no disaster here. Any other phones can be bricked.

You wrong about dummy, stupid design, super thick bezels Nokia 8 for current phones gen. It also not S845 phone, small screen and failed product :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] YasuHamed:
1. to give him fair picture I honestly thought its worth mentioning since i haven't found any other modern days rom having switch keyboard panel NOT part of navbar accept in MIUI

2. its covered in 1 only.

3. gcam on miui doesn't work fully only sept2016 version ran (and didnt crash)

4 again, if by any chance the phone is bricked, i cannot press both volume and power keys to enter in EDL mode (like in Redmi3s)

you asked for good phone with nice battery , so i mentioned Nokia 8, and yes sorry about sd845, its sd835 with 6gbram and 5.3"screen with hardkeys, so u are getting full 5.3" to work with. THe bezels aren't that much they way you have metioned :D

by the way [MENTION=8863516]androidbadboy[/MENTION] Redmi Note5Pro on 9.6.5 doesnt have 3d touch enabled by default and you have to find a workaround!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Thank You [MENTION=5613633]YasuHamed[/MENTION] for replying and giving us important information!

Forgive me as I got confused with all these stuff that is new to me can You please explain like to a total noob what I will miss or gain by not having 3D Touch (what's that in Xiaomi BTW?) enabled by default.

How to find a workaround? Find ON/OFF function?

Please help!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] YasuHamed:
sir, 3d touch is, on home screen when you touch (lets say facebook) app icon and keep your finger on it for few mircoseconds , it opens submenu to various famous action (new post/video/app info / etc ). its a convenient if you want to change app properties (clear data/ fix notifications/ or uninstall ) all under on finger click. other wise to achieve all such you will have to goto traditional way under settings.

3d touch gives most used action by stats of that perticular app in submenu

workaround

the only workaround is to install another launcher , funny thing is, Xiaomi's launcher found on Googleplay has 3d touch! , Pocophone f1 launcher also has it.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
In Samsung S8 when I push my finger for a few seconds (with the same force BTW) I only get 2 options: remove icon or uninstall app.

Is this a properly working 3D touch?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] fadgry:
If you had the budget I suggest you to buy Poco since the phone is a hype and many people are buying it now. I believe Poco community will be live as long as Redmi 3/3 pro, 3s/3x, note 3 forum because of that hype (it is on xda since late 2015 and still alive now). I remember back then people got hype over the phone and we knew some people still looking for it even after redmi 4a/4x.

Oh a piece of cake, for aesthetic reason you might be falling in love with MI 8 lite, it is so beautiful.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] YasuHamed:
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yes , on sony/pixel etc you get many options

but on xiaomi redmi note 5 / pro there is no such thing (atleast till miui9.6.x) ( miui 10, i havent checked yet)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Thank You for all Your help.

I gotta say You kept me thinking.

Cause If You would just see how all electronics shops make huge deliveries and still can't supply well enough for the giant demand of RN5.

I asked around in my country (Europe) and all the people say since RN5 is such a sales hit than it will have an incredible amount of custom roms and support for 3 years minimum from the Devs. They don't thing POCO will beat it in roms cause it's mainly bought by gamers. Gamers however dont flash custom roms when they have a beast that will eat every game.

Maybe in Your country the situation is somewhat different but as You can see the mania of RN5 is running wild that's why I was reluctant to hear from You that POCO will win in my 1st topics requierments.

BTW My people are poor and the difference between POCO and RN5 is 150 USD and that is very huge cash for us.

I respect Your predictions and I thank You very very very much for them.

As You can see try to fill in my shoes and don't be surprised that I am reluctant about POCO beating RN5.

Therefor please comment this reply as widely as You can when You get some peace quiet time please.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
yes means that 3D touch in S8 gets me only 2 types of things (remove icon or uninstall)?

What happens if on Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / pro I touch and hold an icon just like in S8 I wrote before?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] fadgry:
I know it is a huge cash difference since I personally buy RN5 instead of Poco haha. But yeah people really looking for Poco here and they will pay another 150 USD for it.

What about RN5? After 2 weeks using it I don't face any problem. People said they got a or b or c problems, and I would confuse as I didn't get it. Since I'm a hard gamer too, it is crucial to look for performance and it is satisfying.

Both phone are good and has really active forums, it is your choice after all to buy the phone. Hope you get the best which suits your need.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] Cirra92:
I have seen couple of users here on forums constantly bashing the device for one reason or the other (or couple of reasons) without thinking that they might have received a defective device. Yes that happens.

Another thing to note is that for the given price you can't expect something better than this, and for the price, this device is actually great. I have had a possitive experience so far, despite the expectation that Xiaomi had to cut corners on components, which they surely did, but that didn't ruin the device. As a matter of fact the used components are actually good.

The user trying to increase volume of his speaker by more than 25% when it's already maxed out and is not distorted is straight stupidity, I shouldn't even mention that but hey I couldn't resist.

If you can't afford to buy a Poco F1, I'd suggest getting Global Note 5 (or AI if you know it like that). The battery life is great, the camera is capable enough and when you use modded Google Camera it's amazing (for the budget segment and it can compete with some flagships). Speaker is really loud and clear, I simply don't understand why some users complain, other than the fact that they probably have defective unit. Performance from this CPU is great, the GPU with stock settings is a bit letdown but you can still play newer games just fine. You wanted to know about the dev support, well I guess it will be good enough for a long time for this device, I can't predict for Poco though, but it might be similar.

And remember, people who are not satisfied and have some problem are always going to be more vocal than the others, because not many people are going to create a thread and say hey this device is great, hey the speaker is great, hey the camera is great. And a couple of defective units in the sea of good ones is not an indicator of a bad device, it's the opposite.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Thanks very much bro for Your input!

I am shocked a bit cause I didn't hear a bad word in real world (Europe) about Redmi Note 5 Pro. Electronics shops can't hand the overwhelming demand for that phone.

I am ready to pay for POCO but there stores don't quite have it yet.

I want to buy a low to mid priced phone with many custom roms too choose from now/in the future and that has a very long support from Devs for these custom roms.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Thank You so very much for that interesting reply.

My answer is the same as I replied to user [MENTION=8721990]fadgry[/MENTION]

What do You think POCO or RN5 will get more custom roms and the longest support?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] YasuHamed:
it makes Launcher to zoom out and at the corner of screen shows UNINSTALL icon, thats all

I tested on MIUI10 , it doesnt have 3d Touch! so i am using now Xiaomi POCO F1 Launcher taken from apkmirror. and it has 3d Touch
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] YasuHamed:
Another reasonable suggestion for you to go for RedmiA2 ( 6X)

1. it has all the specs of RN5 / RN5pro , comes with two variants 64gb/4bram or 128gb/6gb ram

2. the 64gb/4gb ram is even CHEAPER than RN 5pro since the batter is only 3010mah (rn5p is 4000mah)

3. in my country redmi 6X is $30 cheaper than RN5p

so WHY am i recomending it to you ?

4. its running on Android ONE, so basically its a PIXEL OS running on Xiaomi phone instead of MIUI :D

5. so the all those personal preference i mentioned in this post about Keyboard switcher, 3d touch etc are OKAY in this phone

6. I really wished i would not have bought Xiaomi for EDL flashing restriction OR ATLEAST when I was buying Xiaomi phone! i should have bought 6x

btw RN5p is on qualcomm SD636 and 6x is on SD660 , screen size is same

since they released the kernel source of A1 so its mater of time when A2 kernel source will be out and we can use customer kernels
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] fadgry:
I think both would have good support and communities. You decide which one you will buy
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] Cirra92:
I wrote that as well, but I'll say it again, I can't claim anything about Poco since I don't know how much people will own it, but since it's the cheapest flagship, it might get good support. As for the RN5, the support is already good and it will be long surely don't worry about that.

I wouldn't suggest buying Mi A2 because it only has superior GPU, but that's because it has higher frequency, otherwise the SD636 is actually just an underclocked SD660 as all other components are the same. RN5 has more capable camera sensor and bigger battery, SD card slot.

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That's not 3D touch, it's called App actions and it is launcher dependant. 3D touch is something else and that is a hardware feature which is abandoned even in flagships.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] YasuHamed:
thank you sir for correcting me

please read APP ACTION instead of 3d touch in my previous replies!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
So it's basicly the same as in Samsung S8 with the exception that there is is one option less in RN5 (delete icon)

BTW What a stupid way to name a function that has nothing to do with 3D.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
All I can say is WOW and THANK YOU!

What blow of fresh new concept.

I've just checked Mi2 128 and You are right! It has 6 GB.

However where I live (Europe) Redmi 6X is not (yet) available.

Please tell me about that Redmi 6X.

I wondered also about Mi Max 3 (6,9" IPS TFT, 2160x1080 px, Snapdragon 636 8 x 1.8 GHz, 4 GB of RAM, 64 internal storage, Quick Charge 3.0, 5500 mAh battery, Android 8.1).

I don't mind having MIUI cause I love it!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
From what I hear on XDA You're right.

From what I hear in Europe RN5 Pro is going to be almost everlasting king, especially in my country (150 USD price difference).

Every shop with electronics can't supply the overwhelming demand for RN5.

POCO being 150 $ more expensive will be treated like a game phone for kids/teenagers and gamers don''t usually custom rom their phones at least in the nearest future cause POCO will eat every game there is.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
I am used to having Xiaomi battery around 4000 mAh, no SD card slot? Boooo! But I hear all around me that these Xiaomi's Mi2 make great pics. I hear that everywhere I go, hear, read.

BTW I've seen POCO's photos. If I were to buy a mid priced phone just for pic quality then POCO crushes the rest.

It makes such good photos in strong daylight You feel like it was made by Gogle Pixel 2 or Samsung S9+.

BTW so what is that 3D Touch and when and why was is abandoned?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Thanks a LOT for these information that I had no idea of!

Please don't mind me asking some noob quesitons:

1. What's EDL? What is it for and when do we use it?

2. Is authorized MI Account a problem? I mean that account on http://en.miui.com/forum.php? What is the danger of having an account tere?

3. Why in 2018 Xiaomi in Your opinion is a one time buy? What happened in 2018 to Xiaomi phones?

4. "Are you aware of the complications comes with all 2018 xiaomi phones ?" No, I'm not. Please tell me all about it.

5. [MENTION=3241487]Zanr Zij[/MENTION]: What's ARB4 to ARB3 rom flashing. You don't like Xiaomi policy? What is that policy exactly? What don't You like about it?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Thanks a LOT for these information that I had no idea of!

Please don't mind me asking some noob quesitions:

1. What's EDL? What is it for and when do we use it?

2. Is authorized MI Account a problem? I mean that account on http://en.miui.com/forum.php? What is the danger of having an account tere?

3. Why in 2018 Xiaomi in Your opinion is a one time buy? What happened in 2018 to Xiaomi phones?

4. "Are you aware of the complications comes with all 2018 xiaomi phones ?" No, I'm not. Please tell me all about it.

5. [MENTION=3241487]Zanr Zij[/MENTION]: What's ARB4 to ARB3 rom flashing. You don't like Xiaomi policy? What is that policy exactly? What don't You like about it?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] YasuHamed:
sir

1. Emergency download mode (EDL) - each xiaomi ROM (lets say MIUI10) has two types formats to flash with. (a) Recovery ROM which can be flashed via Twrp/orangfox/redwolf / and MIUI BOOT recovery (via built in updater app) -- and (B) FASTBOOT ROM which can be FLASHED via Miflasher - a tool which let your XIAOMI phone to be connected in EDL format and then you can send fastboot version of miui rom to your phone in DEEP SLEEP mode. this will wipe everything in your phone and the phone will wake up like it left factory. HOWEVER fastboot roms in .tar and .gz format can be changed , and hackers can flash modded roms and can alter miui so they made two things

A- they make EDL trigger complicated in 2018, now by pressing both volum and power key for 25 seconds and connecting usb cable the device wont go in to EDL mode, you must REMOVE BACK PANEL and use metal wire/tweezer to touch two motherboard point (make it short) and simultaineouly connect USB cabel and MiFLASHER will show connection.

B- once EDL is connected you must have authorized Xiaomi account to FLASH that rom (which wasn't the case before)

2. the link u gave that FORUM account, once you buy MIUI, they will ask you your credentials and they will verify your account with sim and/or Facebook and will give you another UNIQUE MIUI ID, that id should have BOOT UNLOCK access and MIFlash ACCESS to perform EDL. now if you buy anychance brick your phone you must take it to service centre!

3. the EDL flashing, and removing back panel to short mother board etc is complication! PLUS now you cannot simply flash older MIUI ROMs there is security enabled ...

4. ANTI ROLBACK policy, is triggered from miui 8.7.5, if you are on MIUI10 stable and flash miui8.7.4, YOUR PHONE WILL DIE ,

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MIA2 just released to it should be hitting EU soon!

MiMax3 is PHABLET :eek: 6.9" is too much to carry! and when put in some Book cover! it will become even bigger and 5500mah battery may take alot of time to charge, for such a gigantec phone 4gb ram seems less! , since MIUI10 is VERY HEAVY built and takes 70% of ram
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!

You are so ahead of Your/Our time.

1. Flashing MIUI10

2. Flashing a custom rom.

3. Flasing MIUI9

will trigger the Anti-Roll-Back and my phone will die?
[General Questions and Answers] safithks:
HeLLo, today had a problem with LG l5 e610 I can't do recovery mode or download mode and give it hard reset or flash it I tried everything and same and after trying a loot with fastboot changing recovery and other stuff nothing work .......

I tried all the methods to get it to recovery or download mode but all didn't work

And Then I did Found An Easy Way To Fix This And You Can Do It With DP TOOLS Here In This Topic :

https://xdaforums.com/lg-g2/development/tool-dp-tools-manage-lg-device-t3084644

Download It First And Then Go On Your Lg l5 e610 And Press Volum + and - And Home Botton And Then Power Botton After you See A Light Before Lg Logo Release All The Keys Its Gona Go To Recovery Mode Now Follow Me It's Easy.

Download DP TOOLS And Open It And Then Put The Phone In Recovery Mode AS I Said Above You Gona See That That She Detected The Phone Model If Not (Close The Tool And Open It Again) And Then Click Reboot Recovery And You Gona See Your Phone Rebooting And Hard Reset Her Self Don't Touch Any Thing It May Take 5Min Or Les And Your Done And You Can Use Other Tools In THis DP TOOL If You Need Any.

This Method Work In Lg L5 E610 I did Test It This Method WorK To Help You Too Hard Reset Your Lg L5 E610 If you Had Problem Doing It.

And Thank You Sorry For My Bad English Am Arabic :) .
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Hello dear XDA Experts

Which Xiaomi phone shall I buy (in Europe) that will be the most popular Xiaomi device for a long time (people will talk about it and buy it for a long time), have the longest support and have many and many custom roms made even after pulling it off the market and most of all custom rom Devs will love it?

Any answer is welcome to help!

BTW Do these devices met the above criteria? (Redmi Note 5 (Pro or non Pro, remember Europe), Pocophone F1, Redmi Note 6 (if it is available in Europe))
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] ultramag69:
Sorry mate, my DeLorean is in the shop. Can't go ahead in time for those answers...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Ok how about the present :)

What do You think?

BTW good joke THANKS
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ewingr:
I occasionaly have my Tilt displaying the hourglass (actually, the piegraph type colored graphic that effectivly is the hour glass for WM6), every 2-3 seconds.

I will go into the memory settings and see what programs are running..none. I open Memmaid, and go to processes, and there are several, but I don't see how I can tell which one is doing this.

A soft reset stops it.

Any ideas on how to figure out what's going on?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChInEsE ChIcKeN:
you should check your task manager and see if there are any programs running in the background or on start up...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mchapman007:
Spb Pocket Plus Caused this problem for me......

Read this thread from Spb about this very issue.

http://www.spbclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15644

I had the same problem and it turned out it was Spb Pocket Plus that was causing it. All I had to do was, un-check the advanced option "Refresh icons in today plug-in when storage card is inserted" and haven't had this problem since.

This may or may not solve your problem but it solved mine and apparently some others as well...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cincy1020:
I had the same problem as the OP, and you are correct mchapman, it was SPB Pocket Plus. The problem was solved for me after unchecking the refresh icons settings, and also removing the storage card indicator from plugin.