yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Micdu70:
[MENTION=6435663]hackslash[/MENTION] Hello, here is february 2019 Google security kernel, from B540 firmware - Honor 8 chinese models => https://mega.nz/#!qJNG2QzS!gAuv7eysNAISWQNfRFTYp69UF8unDwHgG6VuzAUmB0k

Can you include this one please? Thanks! :)
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] SnoopHTC:
0.60 oct 2018 FRD-L19C432 B562 v184123

Hello, thanks [MENTION=8813292]Im-_-Axel[/MENTION], i have successfully repack 0.60 with oct 2018 security patch !!! :good:

or read OP... : For v0.60 and later, please download from Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fH...3o3K_Ew3AZx2nq :angel:
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Alok Bajaj:
Could you also do for Feb,2019 security patch? I want to use this kernel with omni pie... or please tell how to do it. Thanks.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] dkionline:
As long as you using same vendor, you dont need to change patch level.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Alok Bajaj:
I'm sorry I don't know how to find if vendors are the same. But if anyone's interested in making this kernel compatible with Omni Pie 5.2, it would be Better. Because Omni pie is so fast and smooth.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] dkionline:
Like i said.

Omni or others using vendor from emui and that doesnt change the patch level for kernel. Its only needed, if your firmware is newer than existing.

First check whats the vendor patch level, then you get an answer. If using B540 from China, i can that too.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] pix106:
There are 2 security patch levels :

-Vendor security patch, from the stock rom you used before flashing a custom rom. It does not change until you go back to stock rom and update it.

-Rom security patch, from the custom rom build you use. It's the one which gets monthly Google updates.

Kernel only depends on vendor security patch level.

This kernel works fine with Omni Pie (and all other roms), provided it's built with the vendor patch level date matching yours.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Sanyamaci:
After flashing the kernel i have a problem. This kernel makes the phone go into an infinite bootloop... :rolleyes:

Erecovery helped. FRD L09 8.0.0.562(C432)
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Micdu70:
Did you flash "chihayafuru-v0.60-sec-oct.img"?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Alok Bajaj:
Thanks for the help. I get it. But how do I know what's the vendor patch level. I was using EMUI 8 FRD-L02 8.0.0.513(C675CUSTC675D1). What's the patch Level this ROM has?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] dkionline:
About Phone there Android Security Patch.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Micdu70:
[MENTION=8813292]Im-_-Axel[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4900664]dkionline[/MENTION] Hello, can one of you create/share a "chihayafuru-v0.60-sec-feb-2019.img" kernel from february 2019 android security patch please? Thanks! :) => https://mega.nz/#!qJNG2QzS!gAuv7eysNAISWQNfRFTYp69UF8unDwHgG6VuzAUmB0k
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Alok Bajaj:
Thanks! Finally I got this kernel on Omni pie 5.2 and root.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Sanyamaci:
Yes, with this kernel i have bootloop.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Im-_-Axel:
I think this should work, if it doesn't work reflash the stock kernel.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/xff18873x04sggq/image-new.img/file
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Micdu70:
Not working... :'(
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Im-_-Axel:
I don't know then, sorry:(. (sorry for my english)
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
Yikes.

I'm so sorry. Can you please check if this image works for you? https://drive.google.com/open?id=10Y456SnjDtd9iegkY2Mp67a3KQJsIT-j
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Micdu70:
Yeah it works. :)
[MENTION=8813292]Im-_-Axel[/MENTION] And maybe your version works too... Because I used the wrong command to flash your kernel last time I done it (oops)...
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] bumbi99:
Hi, i saw you upstreamed the kernel to Linux 4.4.170 but the october security patch version is at .169. May i ask you if you could repack the new version? Thank you
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Micdu70:
It will be released in the next update... (v0.60 = kernel 4.4.169 and was released in january ).

EDIT: I see that nothing new was added on github except the version number which has been increased just after v0.60 release... :(

;)
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
You'll get it for sure. There are some patches I need to work with before I put up a security release.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Alok Bajaj:
The performance governor for GPU doesn't seem to be working. I mean when I change to "Performance" governor, the frequency goes to 900MHz and then goes back to 120MHz within a minute. Gameplay gets choppy and full of stutters. Is there a workaround for GPU behaviors like this? BTW I was playing PUBG.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Lackooo84:
I have a Honor 8 with stock EMUI 8 C432B562, tried this kernel, but sadly I cannot open security settings with it when I want to tap on it it just stops working. If I want to unlock my phone with my fingerprint the phone reboots itself. So flashed stock kernel back.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] chenduosheng:
I don't konw how to flash

There are four files in Google Cloud，Which one should I flash in?，my device is FRD-AL10 ,using openkirin rr 8.1

---------- Post added at 04:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:03 AM ----------

I meet the same problem
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] dtrail1:
I suppose this kernel is not compatible with Pra-LX1 ?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] dkionline:
No, different SoC. Thats for Kirin 95x, but you need a Kernel for Kirin 65x.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Slawas87:
Unfortunately not working for me. Phone can't even boot. I have clean FRD-L09 8.0.0.562(C432) EMUI 8.0.0 Android 8.0.0. Even v0.45 not working. I get error message:

Atteention ! Please update your system again.

Error !

Func NO: 10 (boot image)

Error NO: 2 (load failed!)

Stock Kernel:

Android security patches: 1 october 2018

Some version numbers: 21.258.09.00.030, 21.258.09.00.030

Core: 4.4.23+ september 30 2018

Some solution ? New version ?

ps. I want to post some ss but i can't
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] pix106:
Try with 0.60, october version (=for october vendor version). Link is in first post, not in downloads tab (older version)
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Slawas87:
I was trying all 0.60 versions, all not working for me. All kernels i was downloading from google link from first post.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Oxofrmbl:
i have vendor version jun 2018, how can i update it to use kernel?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
You're on pretty old FW. Update your firmware and then flash the kernel. If you wish to stay with June SP, just send me your kernel image and I'll push a version specific to your build.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
You're flashing it to 'kernel' partition right?

fastboot flash kernel image.img
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
New Release v0.70

This release contains the following new features/patches:

Upstreamed to Linux Kernel version 4.4.179 (contains various security, performance and stability fixes)

Updated WireGuard kernel backend to 20190702

Check the Download information in the first post for the link.

Additional Notes:

The kernel has support for DTS:Ultra (alongside DTS:HP hardware implementation by Huawei). It's strictly for non-stock ROMs. However, it is not enabled in this build since I wasn't able to test it. If you want to test, feel free to PM me or fetch the sources and compile the kernel (you need to set the last config in defconfig to y).
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] CrioNat:
Which of 0.70 version can i download for my phone? I have honor 8 FRD-L09 8.0.0.562(C432) security patch 1 october 2018
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
The sec-oct version. It's for your October vendor security patch.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] CrioNat:
Ok thanks, and if I want to download stock kernel, where can I find this for my model? If yours doesn't work or other issues..
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] krchi:
This kernel somehow breaks YouTube for me? Like the videos will never actually start loading.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] dkionline:
Actually an issue im facing too, but its randomly after some time.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
That's quite odd. I've tried playing videos randomly since the past few days and it has always worked. I'll try to replicate this at my end though. Thanks for the report.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] :
No such issues here with Stock Rom (FRD-DL00).
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
New Release v0.75

This release contains the following new features/patches:

Upstreamed to latest Linux 4.4.185 for improved security and performance

Tweaked mali_ondemand governor to aggressively scale up frequencies to improve system performance on OpenKirin and other Treble ROMs (please use EX Kernel Manager and set GPU governor to mali_ondemand). This might take a small hit on battery life. Please check if your battery life worsens after this change and I'll make adjustments accordingly.

Added support for ptrace_calls (in a nutshell, if you use memory editing programs like GG, they should work now), ptrace is strictly for debugging purposes so it might not be that useful to you.

Added a bunch of TCP Congestion Control algorithms (sociopath, veno, etc).

Enabled HISI idle clock sleep drivers.

Enabled HISI clock thermals and hotplug support

Changed default thermal governor to fair share.

Set base timer frequency to 300 (as per Google recommendations).

Releases can be grabbed from this link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fHd7Y9XulrhzHou4013o3K_Ew3AZx2nq

July 2018 security patched images have been added for release 0.75.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] :
Thanks [MENTION=6435663]hackslash[/MENTION] for your work.

EDIT: Could you build over/underclock and spectrum support in the Kernel ?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] waihung0626:
I have honor 8 FRD-L10 8.0.0.540(C00) security patch 1 february, 2019

I need download chihayafuru-v0.75-sec-feb19.img ?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
Yep.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] waihung0626:
how to flash from twrp?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
Install > Install Image > Select the image and Kernel as partition > Done
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] :
Unfortunately the battery is definitely draining in v.0.75 faster than v.70 and stock kernel with and without GPU governor mali_ondemand.:(

Now I am on CF Kernel v.70.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
No spectrum support since that would require modifying the ramdisk which I won't do.

I haven't faced any dire need of over/underclocking the kernel. If I want to save battery, I'll either set one cluster to power save or completely turn it off.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] cypher187:
Hi,

first of all, big thanks for providing new stuff!

SD-Card isn't working with your new release. It's just not showing. Not in filemanager, not in settings. It even doesn't react if I remove / insert it (physically). With v0.70 and prior it's working.

I'm on October vendor patch (C462 B562 - base) with OpenKirin's RROS 6.2.0-20180927. I didn't see anything relevant in logs. Just tell me, if you need any additional information or any specific log.

And again, thank you for support.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] waihung0626:
SD card don't have problems..
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] waihung0626:
I have see source code up 0.78
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
New Release v0.78

This release contains the following new features/patches:

Upstreamed to latest Linux 4.4.186 for improved security and performance

Decrease mali_ondemand base frequencies to compromise performance for better battery.

Added blu_schedutil and schedutil CPU governors. Important: You have to set the up_rate_limit and down_rate_limit for both clusters in Governor Options manually. Otherwise, you might suffer lags and serious performance issues. A good starting value is 5000 and 10000 respectively.

Set cake as default net scheduler.

Releases can be grabbed from this link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fHd7Y9XulrhzHou4013o3K_Ew3AZx2nq

Most releases now onward will be security releases only i.e. they'll have patches from main Linux stable branch merged in. There will be probably no new features introduced in the kernel.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Alok Bajaj:
Thank you for continuing development. But as everyone else has noted, I've the same battery drain issue after flashing 0.78 version. Something needs to be done. Thanks.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
I'm not following on the battery drain issue. I can manage 4+ hrs SOT which is okay on OpenKirin ROMs when you're not getting deep sleep. If you're on stock, there should be zero impact on battery life since the default GPU governor is scene_aware which hasn't been modified in any way.

As I said, if you think you're getting lower battery life, don't use the mali_ondemand governor. Simply switch to simple_ondemand or scene_aware.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Alok Bajaj:
Thanks. I wasn't aware of changing GPU governor. I'll flash 0.78 back and let you know if same issue exists. :D

Okay. I guess it was the issue with governor. There's no battery drain. Thanks.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Palindrom87:
hello everybody,

can somebody describe how exactly one Install it?

I read to go in fastboot and install it ober there, but how? With Huawei Multi tool?

I dont want to brick my Phone.

Im on Stock emui 8.

Thanks in advance

Gesendet von meinem FRD-L09 mit Tapatalk
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] pix106:
Read first post again, you'll find the command.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Slawas87:
Yea, I was flashing via fastboot and also via Multi-tool

I was trying to install:

chihayafuru-v0.75-sec-oct

and

chihayafuru-v0.78-sec-oct

Both are not working for me :(
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] :
Do you have october security firmware?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Slawas87:
Yea, check out post nr #247

It's weird, after failed kernel installation i run Multi-Tool 8 then i enter menu "Kernel(boot)" and select stock kernel image ( stock RAMDISK.img from 562 ), flash and restart phone. And now in setting i can see that kernel is 4.4.186-Chihayafuru-v0.78-RX wooot ? how ?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] mhys33:
I'm on RROSb3 by openkirin and I flashed v0.78-sec-sep.img. It boots to the lock screen and keeps restarting. Touch also doesn't work. Any fixes or any idea on which version I should try?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Alok Bajaj:
Try v0. 78-sec-oct.img file.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
This ^^

The image you flash must match your vendor security patch level.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] mhys33:
Gotcha. Works perfectly now. Thanks..!
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
New Maintenance Release v0.80

This maintenance release contains the following new features/patches:

Upstreamed to latest Linux 4.4.189 for improved security and performance.

Releases can be grabbed from this link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fHd7Y9XulrhzHou4013o3K_Ew3AZx2nq

Most releases now onward will be security/maintenance releases only i.e. they'll have patches from main Linux stable branch merged in. There will be probably no new features introduced in the kernel.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] waihung0626:
thank you for your working
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] CrioNat:
I'm on OmniRom Pie Alpha 5.2, which kernel i install? October or february?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] pix106:
It does not depend on rom, but only on vendor patch level.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
New Maintenance Release v0.82

This maintenance release contains the following new features/patches:

Upstreamed to latest Linux 4.4.191 for improved security and performance.

Releases can be grabbed from this link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fHd7Y9XulrhzHou4013o3K_Ew3AZx2nq
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] Alok Bajaj:
After installing this kernel, the minimum cpu frequency on big cluster gets automatically set to 807Mhz in interactive governor and GPU (GPU scene aware) is automatically clocked to minimum at 360 Mhz. I try to change the frequency to 480 for cpu and 120 for GPU but it come back to those frequencies.. Need help. There's no severe drain or something. But maybe I can save some extra battery life.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
That's the EMUI perf services that control both the GPU and CPU frequencies. You have to delete those services in order to ensure your applied frequencies are set
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] :
In which file is the perf service? Is it save to delete ?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] bumbi99:
You are not experiencing any battery drain because the voltage assigned to those frequencies is exactly the same. You will not have any battery savings as well. (To be more precise: 120, 240 and 360Mhz for the GPU and 480, 807 and 1210 for the big cluster of the CPU. For the little one voltages are different between these frequencies.) If you want to check by yourself go to /sys/kernel/debug/opp. There you will find directories for both CPU and GPU frequencies and their voltages.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] pprazzi:
I installed the kernel and it works perfect. Everything is smoother and I think battery might be a bit better. But I have a little problem, my phone vibration is more intense than it used to be. It vibrates harder what not only annoys me but also may affect battery.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] pix106:
You can try using kernel adiutor to tweak vibration intensity
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] pprazzi:
I'm using FK Kernel manager but can't find any options to change vibrations intensity.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
That's hardcoded in the kernel. I increased the vibrator's intensity since that's how I like it ;)

There's no user exposed tunable for it and I've no plans to add it too. It won't hit your battery though.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
For those who wanted the frequencies to stick, follow the second post here (the ProtoSSC Instructions):

https://xdaforums.com/honor-9/development/kernel-proto8-kernel-t3780551/
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] :
Download link for ProtoSSC doesn't work. Have somebody a mirror ?

Edit: Don't need the ProtoSSC file, you modify the files. Works great !
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] xfim:
I'm using this kernel on omnirom pie. How can I make the rom smooth? It seems the cpu doesnt boost properly so scrolling and homescreen navigation is very laggy, but even if I set cpu to high clocks and they stay there, it still is laggy half of the time. I suppose the gpu doesnt boost like it should. How can I fix this? Thanks!
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] luna_sapphire:
waa~, as previously reported, using this kernel (0.82 oct) breaks hardware video acceleration on stock oreo (FRD-L04) >_<
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
Try setting GPU governor to 'mali_ondemand'. That will resolve your lag issues.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
Yikes! Can you send me some screenshots/logs detailing the issue?
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
New Maintenance Release v0.90

This maintenance release contains the following new features/patches:

Upstreamed to latest Linux 4.4.198 for improved security and performance.

Releases can be grabbed from this link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fHd7Y9XulrhzHou4013o3K_Ew3AZx2nq
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] luna_sapphire:
When one opens a video using "newpipe", "redreader", "huawei video", etc the video playback will fail. Instead you will be presented with an endless loading animation or a black screen depending on the app. Sometimes the phone will reboot instead. However running the same video with "mpv" and enabling SW mode instead of HW mode will get the video to work.

Let me know if you need anything else, never sent logs before:

smol dmesg: https://privatebin.net/?b6b85aea44b75426#HDZ5yEU3GwsthjcmdN32YFXzvAXPbUyc5Z77v21hGBqJ

smol logcat: https://privatebin.net/?a9b1867569beede0#F1DXMwthCgh9qiNAtHEJpo73xso5nhfXhSVro94trZVv

Booting with the stock kernel restores normal behaviour (i.e. working videos).

Here's more peeps with the same issue:

https://xdaforums.com/honor-8/devel...-1-honor-8-t3839904/post78687238#post78687238

https://xdaforums.com/honor-8/devel...-1-honor-8-t3839904/post78718795#post78718795

https://xdaforums.com/honor-8/devel...-1-honor-8-t3839904/post79870056#post79870056
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] immichao:
I've been saying since a long time ago that videos using this kernel aren't playing(in instagram for example) and others have too.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] dkionline:
Device + Modelname and Buildnr. please.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] immichao:
Honor 8 FRD-L09 8.0.0.562(C432)
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] benjaminrm:
Anyway to lower vibration intensity? When getting notifications there's a rattling sound from the speaker that annoys me
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] xfim:
I was looking for an option to change GPU settings but couldnt find any apps that worked. How do I do that? Thanks
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
EX Kernel Manager and FK Kernel Manager both support changing GPU governor.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] CrioNat:
Is there any method to change the kernel vibration? It's too much high for me...
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] hackslash:
I'll revert the high vibration in next release (this weekend or next week) to make it like the stock one.
[Honor 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develop] CrioNat:
Like a cross between your and the stock?