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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kbajey:
I've been using this device for 6 months. I was using MIUI for 3 months before I switched to custom ROMs, currently in PE pie. Looking at your problem, I don't think it's a problem with the display. I think it is more of a usecase scenario specific to you and your eyes since you've been using displays with high refresh rates for long time.

For the normal users, who've not been using that kind of displays, it looks pretty normal. If indeed there was a issue with micro stutters and lag, it would be all over the internet by this time. Just look up on how many reviewers complained against the slight blue tint of Pixel 2XL display. Although, this device isn't as popular as that, we'd still have many reviews screaming left and right on how the display is bad.

Even for the normal users, if we go back 7-8 years, for our eyes iPhones and Android flagship of that generation would be laggy and full of microstutters but at that time, we didn't feel it since we didn't know better displays existed, just like your case now.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] coolfx89:
at first, sorry for my english

I have the same experience with OP, the microlag/stutter is very annoying.

I've tried Miui 9 stock rom (V9.6.4.0 and 3 version before), aosip (oreo) and RR (oreo), but the stutter is still there. I'm dissapointed because I expect smooth android experience from LOS/ASOP based rom.

then I've tried xiaomi.eu stable (based on MIUI 10 CN), It is much better, the stutter is gone, the scrolling is smoother now.

I don't know why, maybe something change in partition when I flashed MIUI 10 based or something else.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] m666p:
Its the smoothest kernel with the most features out of the box, but it will heat up my phone, would reach 48 degrees when playing games...

I fixed the heating by setting the max on big and little to 1.9 GHz, but that caused random reboots for me.

So now I use no name with a bunch of tweaking.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] rishab77:
Really did you try the newest build. If yes, is there no way to getting around the issue? I will be playing games like asphalt 9 and shadow fighter 3
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] m666p:
Yup latest,

Give it a shot, everyone's chipsets are a bit different...

Maybe it works better for you...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] rishab77:
Thanks for the reply, telegram group is essentially useless, just gonna tell you to check hundreds of random previous posts which have nothing to do with kernel
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Zanr Zij:
Conclusion: I see no phone can beat this "bad" phone at 160$ for 4GB/64GB version :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Robert-:
I have tried MIUI too, dont get me wrong, but I feel like MIUI is worse than every custom ROM here.

Your point being? To be honest I would rather use my gfs Galaxy J5 than this phone. I dont care about camera, I have a DSLR, I dont care about battery, everything past 5-6 hours is great. There are lots of phones in this price range (dont get me started about second hand) that would destroy the Rn5 in user experience.

Of course I tried lots of things. Old MIUI, new MIUI, OREO custom ROMS, Pie custom roms. I stopped using my phone because of the random hiccups that annoy me. I, right now, use my phone as a dumb phone not as a smart phone. I will try some more things and after that i will just sell the phone and buy something else.

It has to be something software related. I tried a Zenfone 5 (a device with Snap 636) and it was way smoother.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Zanr Zij:
Oh I read again: animation is the main point. OMG, just sell it and buy other phone with this reason :))
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lukesan:
I now read random hiccups. Maybe something stupid, and I had this last year... a broken sd-card? Had some weird slowdowns, removed it and all was well.

Been playing with my sons Samsung A5 2017 just now. That phone was 60% more expensive than our phone when he bought it. If you want to go to that J5 and you think it is faster then there is something wrong with my sons A5 and your redmi note 5 global.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Robert-:
Choppy animations, random hiccups while doing nothing except scrolling, we have them all. But the choppy animations are destroying my experience. Can we stop talking about randoms stupid stuff and concentrate on the problem?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lukesan:
Ok count me out of this discussion. I'll spend my little time with my family instead of trying to think and help out. Can I get my time back?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] milro1970:
Based on your screenshots?

I am guessing you were alternating between apps in a matter of seconds?

If yes, nothing is wrong, because nothing seems out of the ordinary....

But, aside any screenshot, the real point here is..., are you feeling happy with your phone or you are frustrated about some aspect of your experience with it?

If you are ok and don't have any real issue (like your display is not working at all, or you cannot connect to any wifi network... etc) then continue on your way, live long and prosper!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fadgry:
I would say, yes go sell your phone. I saw people were helping and you keep complaining instead of making a good discussion. We can't have a healthy thread if you just keep crying about selling the phone, not what I expect to read on XDA.

Mod please close the thread as the op don't want the solution offered by other members. Thanks
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kodorevi8ulis:
well i am not wrong because i said that the device (with the 625) only in India is called Redmi Note 5, in the rest world (and i don't mean global , also in China where is the origin of the company) is called Redmi 5 Plus :)) and of course if you give me the link from india doesn't count at all :) i can give you 10+ links (cn/hk/spain/italy etc) where the phone is called Redmi 5 Plus

the main confusion is that the India phone with the 636 released first .... and this is why everyone (and here at xda) created the section with this name (i guess because they thought that it will have the same name and on other locations)

(i guess in India they love the "Note" word :P )
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Zanr Zij:
If you are saying about Redmi Note 5 Snap 636 animation/scrolling when doing nothing else:

- That's the FEELING sensitive so we need the number to discuss better. Yes feeling is important to everyone, just say goodbye your phone ( I'm not happy with what I get on Samsung Galaxy Note 8 even Note9, happier with this phone because battery is the biggest point for me )

- If you come from something like an iOS device and saying about Facebook scrolling smoothness: yes, you are right! Android FB scrolling experience can't compare to iOS even on latest Samsung Galaxy Note 9: many stutter lags. But it is just animation and the way app display content

We should not discuss about feeling without criterias/standards
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] t0per666:
If you have unlocked bootloader and have twrp

Install latest aosip 8.1 https://xdaforums.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/rom-aosip-8-1-t3804473

Install derp kernel https://xdaforums.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/derp-kernel-clang-4-4-138-t3804996

In kernel audiutor go to gpu and set gpu mini freq to 266mhz

And enable force gpu render in dev settings

I hope that fix your problem. Thanks!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] chiudikas:
heres mine GPU profiled. 3GB RAM/32GB ROM version, MIUI 10 by XIAOMI.eu 8.9.6

try changing transition effects in launcher, noticed a little lag when changing transition to anything other than default. but not sure if we're speaking about the same thing.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] gsmyth:
I set my window and transition animation scale to 0.5 under developer options and its very fluid for me. I've used iPhones as well and as much as ppl brag about them being soo optimised and the software being so slick (essentially maintaining one core OS so it had better be) I find the animations slow and sluggish looking. At least on android you can tweak them to your liking or just turn them off.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] irfanbd94:
Same Problem

With My Redmi Note 5 Ai 3/32gb also have same kind of feelings,i feel more lag on redmi note 5 then redmi note 4x :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Robert-:
please stop comparing the perfect 140$ phone to the 1000$ Redmi Note 4 (sarcasm)

Yeah i feel the same way.. I had the RN4 too and it was a better phone overall..better screen, better feeling..
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Please stop acting like 2-3 people opinion is somehow more valid than hundreds of others. Please stop rating overall phone quality by sole factor of animation smoothness.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Robert-:
This is what I care about. Also, what is good? The battery life? well, its a 4000 mah battery, it should be good. The camera? Couldnt care less, I have a DSLR and any phone from 2018 is good enough for social media. The screen? is bad af. The signal reception? Dont get me started.

Also, this is not an opinion, its a fact. Again, COULDNT CARE LESS ABOUT OTHERS, I (and some others) can see the LAG.

Please stop replying if youre here just to circle jerk xiaomi, thanks.

Please stop replying if youre here just to circle jerk xiaomi, thanks.

Please stop replying if youre here just to circle jerk xiaomi, thanks.

edit: also, if you and others cant see the lag than I should get my eyes (me and the others) checked because we are blind or something? You make 0 sense, again, stop circlejerking.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Good for you. Still, just because you say it, doesnt make it true. Its not a fact, its your opinion, and as i already said, your opinion is no more valid than any other opinion. And since its your opinion, i can freely express mine, mmkayy? You couldnt care less about other people opinion, same way i couldnt care what you think. So im gonna express my opinion as much as i like, because this is not your facebook wall, its public forum.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] gsmyth:
What's wrong with your screen? I find signal strength to be fine, haven't encountered any problems. I came from a RN4 Mediatek version, so I've been enjoying the extra battery life and the improved camera. If I'm honest miui could be a bit smoother, it's not perfect but it's not stock android and will always offer some extra features than the bare minimum.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] irfanbd94:
I think developers of Whyred research this issue seriously,Redmi Note 5 have better hardware specs(CPU/GPU) then Redmi Note 4x(Mido).......In terms of performance/smoothness it(Whyred) should be better but it is not.I think there is smothing to be done with MIUI/Other Rom/CPU/GPU Optimization......:confused::confused::(:(:(:confused::confused:

---------- Post added at 12:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:20 AM ----------

And it effects not only on Animation/Scrolling,also on small games like Dream League Soccer 18(Online Mode) i felt lag/touch latency with redmi note 5(Not on Redmi Note 4x?Mi A1)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
You're pushing your luck here. Have you forgotten I'm monitoring this thread? Knock off the insults or penalties will be handed out and if the discussion doesn't remain respectful, this thread will be closed.

Last warning.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Robert-:
I dont know the problem to be honest. I am right now on MCAOSP Pie and (for example) facebook and scrolling is awesome (still, some sluggishness here and there but nothing too bad), so it has to be something software related. I want to like this phone, but right now I just cant..
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
I havent seen 1 developer working on this "issue", havent even seen this mentioned anywhere before this thread. Mine is smooth even on miui, but only if you use nav buttons. Full screen gestures do tend to lag in animation.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Robert-:
Now we are getting somewhere. Yes, I do remember the phone being ok(still not at the RN4 or Nexus 5 level, not going to mention other phones) without the gestures but a lagfest with the gestures on MIUI. The phone should not struggle to render animations. We are in 2018, we can play fortnite but we cant have a smooth user experience?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Its widely known that miui full screen gestures are laggy, basically on every mi phone, nothing to do with RN5.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] irfanbd94:
You Have to use/compare vs device like redmi note 4 Snapdragon to understand the lag,when i used 1st Android phone (galaxy y) i didn't feel the lag but now if i use it ........... Hardware wise Redmi Note 5 capable to perform smoother then redmi note 4.....but there is smonthing missing/wrong with it's os/ui/driver....i am not talking about gesture.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] irfanbd94:
It's performance/smoothness is not up to the mark (compare to it's Hardware)..........it can be improved if developers are notice it.I have tried many rom/kernel/firmware but for me Aosip rom is best......And now trying Xiaomi eu Miui 10 stable rom, working great(Got suggested from this tread, previously tried,was not good)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Cirra92:
Okay let's stay on civilized path here.

Now, first things first, you can't just count out the possibility of hardware defect, it can be a manufacturing process error, and the success rate will never be a 100%, so the handful amount of you guys with lags/sttuters out of, lets say million of other RN5 units may actually have bad luck. It might not be a huge defect, but enough to make you annoyed. But on the other hand it might not be a defect at all, you can't test it as that would require knowledge of the manufacturing process and the state of perfectly functioning chipset.

So, the other thing is that the CPUs have different binning, for example the SD801 (in your Nexus5 and my old Z3 Compact) had 15 different CPU binning categories which meant 15 different batches, that further means all of them have different voltages for each CPU step at which they are stable enough. For SD636 as far I know, there is still no information on how much CPU bins does it have and their values, but there are surely, as the manufacturing process is not 100% accurate (that's why I said you might have defective one, as they don't test out every single chipset, they test some and assume the rest are the same).

That can lead to different performance of each device from different CPU binning batch as it depends on how the CPU governor is tweaked. Now I had custom interactive governor values on my old Z3C and that led to a smoother experience overall, as it was using the most efficient frequencies and stayed on them for right amount of time. Here, so far, no kernel has adapted governor tunables, and that can be annoying for some people as the CPU doesn't stay long enough on certain frequency but it rather quickly ramps down to save power and depending on you CPU bins and it's stable voltages, that would cause lags. My old Z3C was never been able to work smoothly on the same freqs as some other SD801 devices because they were on different CPU bins and I had to use higher freqs to achieve it, but it was possible.

That was my view on the matter and from my (very) limited knowlegde I can only suggest that you can test different freqs for different scenarios, or specifically, the CPU load for certain action.

All in all, your thread title is misleading and wrong, this really isn't a bad device hardware wise, despite it's price point, it's actually software that's crippling it and it was done on purpose by Xiaomi, you know, they have to differentiate several device tiers, from budget to flagship.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
Ive been using android since 2008ish, when i bought my htc desire hd. Since then plenty of flagships, so i do have something to compare to. Seriously, if this is a real issue why not a single developer working on it? Why isnt it mentioned anywhere? Why there is not a single thread about it on this forum? Because its not a real issue, you maybe not happy with RN5 performance, thats perfectly fine, but that doesnt mean that there is some hardware optimization problem.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] VincentJoshuaET:
Having used a OnePlus 3T, an old flagship, I can say that the Redmi Note 5 is smoother even on MIUI. However, I still think the 3T camera is better especially in lowlight. But my phone's OIS was broken so buying a whyred is an upgrade anyway
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] coolfx89:
I'm using xiaomi.eu 10 stable with helix engine now.

Xiaomi.eu on my device is smoother than another ROM (stock xiaomi, aosip, rr) i've tried but sometimes I still feel lag when scrolling on some app (app's opening speed is fine).

I set the performance profile (increase the CPU minimun freq) in helix to app that I feel laggy , it is working even better now.

Maybe there is something wrong with cpu scaling, it's feels like the project butter is not working as it should be.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cRaZy-bisCuiT:
I really don't get what you guys problem is. Especially in stock, enable developer options and set all animations to 0x. If you warm-start an app it will be there instant. No lag at all.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Okkakoko:
Bro u experienced is All about TOUCH LATENCY ,AND THIS PROBLEM IS FOR EVERYONE WHO OWNED REDMI 5 PLUS AND NOTE 5 AND ALSO NOW MI 6X.,one thing i hav noticed that i hav three ph redmi 5 plus ,redmi note 5 and this shhit mi 6x ,and mi 6x hav very much high touch latency and its really PROMINENT everytime scrolling to everythings even in setting app. so i hav compared with redmi note 5 side by side and redmi note 5 is doing a lot more faster and really typing accurate ..so what does xiaomi got this..?...and anothet thing i hav experienced that when i first handled redmi 5 plus ,i got exact same problem like that ,so high touch latency ,alot of ppl at that time also in our country Myanmar complaining about touch ,then i decided to wait FIRMWARE updates and really it got fixed in recent updates ,then i started to check engineering menu and touch panel firmware version is increased and it got fixed, so now its faster than mi 6x ,lol.....then i got redmi note 5 which has the exact same material with redmi note 5 (Tianma TD4310) and its touch is fast ,So we can conclude that xiaomi fixed touch latency in redmi 5 plus and then released to redmi note 5 bcz the same touch sensor is used ,So i hope that mi 6x touch got fixed by getting updates in the future .xD
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] coolfx89:
well maybe this explained my experienced about this device.

my scrolling is much smoother now because I increase cpu freq, but I still feel it doesnt as responsive as my previous device (iPhone SE) when scrolling , I feel it has miliseconds delay.

I'm not talking about the app's opening speed or the animation, the app opening speed is good enough for me, i have no complain in this area.

the scrolling is smooth now after some tweaking, but I can feel delay when scrolling. I even removed my tempered glass because I thought the TG is bad but it still the same.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Okkakoko:
Yes definitely this is touch panel problem but.. redmi note 5 pro got fixed in miui 10bro.i hav own that device and now fast enough in scolling.. And now That touch latency is very high in mi 6x hope that they will reduce in upcoming update like oneplus 3 touch latency,..

Btw i adviced to ur redmi note 5 pro to update to miui 10 beta or update miui 10 dev beta before Arb 4 build bcz ur usage of miui eu, eu rom removed all about firmware bcz of arb4 but i suggested to once flash to arb 3 rom or extract firmware partation from last arb3 dev rom
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] coolfx89:
I'm on ARB 4 now bro, flashing firmware before ARB 4 will cause my device brick.

but after searching about scroll latency, I think I must adapt to this limitation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/8hmksh/touch_latency_is_very_underrated_in_android/

https://danluu.com/input-lag/
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
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If you're not going to contribute to the discussion, don't bother posting.

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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Cirra92:
Yeah I forgot to mention that, though I really didn't know to what extent that issue goes, thanks for the links, I went through those posts now.

Well the issue that can be present here after reading what you posted might be the scrolling latency, and indeed there is, but even with that, you still can have smooth scrolling, it would just react slower than supposed to, but the actual scrolling experience can be smooth enough. The way I see it on my device, it is smooth, despite the fact that there is initial latency in starting the actual scroll event. And that can be a result of my hardware responding well to the predefined kernel (governor) tweaks and stable voltages for corresponding frequencies.

The users with affected devices can either:

- raise the frequency for the CPU load involved if the current frequency is causing constant lag during the actual scrolling event

- raise the time for the CPU to stay on the current frequency if the scrolling is laggy only when it's about to end (when you stop moving the finger and let it stop), but not during the actuall scrolling event.

The apps like Facebook can't really be a benchmark since that app is really crap across even flagship tier and there are going to be micro sttuters.

Please someone correct me if I am wrong here, this is what I collected and understood over the years and it might not be completely accurate.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] MMujtabA'S:
Del
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] m666p:
Hi guys, check out the new twistloop test version in telegram, he just unlocked gpu overclock...

And lag is really gone now...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] irfanbd94:
I have tried...but Derp Kernel 2.7 seems better to me in terms of performance.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] out386:
Yup, I'm getting terrible performance, too. Stutters on Play, stutters on scrolling on Chrome, stutters randomly all over the place. I found that setting both clusters and the GPU governor to Performance really helps, but then, I get 5h of SOT or so. Overall, terrible.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] m666p:
Not that one, join the twistloop test channel...

He just made a test build today...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Robert-:
The GPU OC is not actually working, nothing changes..

I tried MCAosp (PIE) and it was pretty ok (smoothest ROM ive tried).

Right now im on stock looking to sell the device (or keep it, dont know rn) if we cant get the device to atleast perform as good as it should be (like other 636 devices)

There has to be something software related, to be honest i dont know.. ive tried many things, nothing changes..its strange.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] m666p:
yeah your right...

Other people reported that too...

Did you try swap torpedo from magisk?