yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] gokkko:
Some pics from Dortmund Christmas market.

The M20P camera is doing a great job in low light.

Gesendet von meinem LYA-L29 mit Tapatalk
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] mwatson:
Same as me. Not sure they're is anything that can be done. I think it's the lack of OIS.

The AI thought my kids were a bicycle ?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] XTutorials:
The 40 and 8 MPx sensors are the same as on the P20 Pro, so if you don't use the ultra-wide sensor, you're going to get photos as good as the P20 Pro, if not even better.

The camera software is a bit dissapointing though.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] Tiago A:
LOL. This AI think is pure gimmick. Sometimes it woks, sometimes not. Sometimes a dog is a flower, sometimes a flower is a dog. ?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Received an camera update just now. Mine are vanilla Mate 20, but it should be the same for the pro version.

Apart from the more natural color approach as mentioned, i think the sharpening looks to be reduced as well, now looks less overprocessed.

Need someone to confirm this after got the update, will try take many samples tomorrow.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] smederevoboy:
Post any simple photo in night mod?

Mate 20 Pro
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Night mode not much different i think. Its only reduce color vibrancy & reduce a bit sharpness in Auto Master AI. The big difference are on front camera i think, low lights looks so much better, and skin tone look more natural now.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] shoobirdy:
My understanding is that the P20 Pro uses the f1.6 monochrome lens to add detail to normal shots...from memory the Mate 20 Pro wide angle lens is f1.8 so from what I've read ..low light shots are not as good on the Mate 20 Pro...could be wrong though!

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I found the same with my P20 Pro...my theory is just that little people 'move' more lol. I bought a Pixel 1 XL to test since everyone raves about the ZSL and have found it to be better for this at least.

The P20 Pro (and from the looks of it the Mate 20 Pro as well) can take some cracking shots but I think for my use scenario the Pixel is better and the oversharpening wound me up something chronic!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] pogi.paul0119:
Some shots..
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] mwatson:
i'm thinking the same, did you get rid of your m20 pro?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] shoobirdy:
Only have a P20 Pro...came here to see if Huawei had done anything different with the camera implementation on the M20 Pro. Gave the P20 Pro to my wife for Xmas though...awesome phone but ultimately just not for me.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] Yuriksat:
Which mode are you guys using - 10M or 40M?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] smederevoboy:
Portret test

https://flic.kr/p/2cLSq3t

https://flic.kr/p/2e66VuQ

https://flic.kr/p/QpqDLP

https://flic.kr/p/QpqEnD

https://flic.kr/p/2cLStmT

https://flic.kr/p/2e67tYs

Mate 20 Pro
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] vandal4e:
pretty soft face no bokeh to talk about, Huawei has a lot of work to do which as we know from P20 pro updates, they won't
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] smederevoboy:
Low light 5x zoom test

Mate 20 Pro
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] pogi.paul0119:
Blue House..
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] JP10101:
I changed phones. I couldn't deal with it.

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Actually the picture on the right is terrible for low light. One on the left isn't too bad
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] Darkat70:
I did a super macro shot of a necklace, amazingly you can see the fibres from the foam of the package on the elephant.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] ryballs:
Australian Garden Orb Weaver - Super Macro mode in low light
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] Ddot196:
Trying out the zoom feature. This camera impresses me every time.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] smederevoboy:
5x optical zoom, low light

Mate 20 Pro
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] hotto1996:
Disappointed

Hello Guys,

first of all, let me excuse for my bad English - I'm from Germany.

I'm kinda disappointed with the mate 20 pro, the quality is nothing compared to my sold note 9.

Am I doing something wrong?

All pictures look over sharped and exposed.

Ai and HDR is already off - mobile is updated to the latest version of emui...

I'm into photography by the way and don't know what's going on here....

Sadly there is no way for me to show you guys some examples because I'm new to this forum :rolleyes:

Especially taking Fotos of my cats Indooor...

Uff I don't know how to describe it ...they look like ****.

They look even worse then my G2 from 2015 or my LeEco LeMax 2.

Just bad.

Best regards!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] s327374:
LeEco had a really bad camera... Something is wrong there sport. You got plastic over the lense or something? I would take it in to get replaced or fixed. I have the mate 20x, but my wife has the mate 20 pro coming from iphone. I was nervous as she takes great photos. I needn't have been, mate 20 pro has been even better for her.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Are u serious that now? U have to give the sample here for proof.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] ahhoe:
Macro of a baby bat

Sent from AI device
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] hotto1996:
I guess I need to replace it then...

Already got a new one because of the display failure....
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
For sure something is wrong with your camera. These are taken from mine.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] hotto1996:
Yeah I'm serious.

No troll, no joke at all - I would send some proofing pictures but I can't because I'm new to this forum.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] q8_devil:
Upload to google photos or any website that doesnt compress the photos and post them here .

I swear ive seen this **** in every Huawei phone forum, always people complaining about bad cameras while people above them posting the most beautiful photos.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] techops:
Most of the pictures from the phone are great.

It should not be forgotten that people make the pictures, not the camera. If the photos are bad, the problem is not in the tool but in the skills. For example, if I can not cook, I have no right to blame that the stove is bad :)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] hotto1996:
I can't keeps telling my I'm not allowed to...

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Of course.

But to be honest I'm into photography nice I'm 8. I'm not the best one of course but I know how to handle most situations and lightings well. I also know how to handle my camera or in this example my mobile to make some quality pictures . I would post some of them but for now I'm not allowed to post links or something...
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] s327374:
You're on XDA. I reckon you can figure it out.

I'll see if I can post. Don't normally do this, as I'm not the best photographer, so a tad embarrassing

edit: Oops - just realised mine is with the Mate 20x - same camera set up though. Cheers
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] hotto1996:
Daylight indoor with 3x zoom

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kjH5fd8QMRxjjuMXA

Lowlight indoor with 3x zoom:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Hawii9v2pm5k1L9H6

(Horrible in my opinion but maybe I'm blind)

Lowlight indoor 2x zoom NOTE 9 as comparison:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/1Tqy8Q9TZKFXAYQB8

Some Pictures at very low light conditions, most of them are good in my opinion:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/UKQmmHvCn54XFk777
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] q8_devil:
None of the pictures you posted actually used the zoom camera. Its just a crop of the main sensor. Some of the note 8 pictures are even using the f1.5 mode.

Zoom camera only work in good lighting and it needs few seconds to kick in on the mate20pro otherwise it will be a picture crop.

Your picture are not bad though, they look quite good tbh.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] hotto1996:
Lol but...I used the zoom function....

Is there a way to choose it manually?

The pictures from the note 9 was using zoom too.

But I was already wondering why the aperture stayed the same when I zoomed in....

I don't quite know then how to trigger the zoom lense manually.....?

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So if I understood you correctly: as soon as there isn't enough light - the picture is just a crop of the main lense...that would explain why the pic of the note 9 is better with the aperture of 1.5....
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] q8_devil:
No way to trigger it manually, but you can notice the camera stop being shaky when the zoom lens kick in because its stabilized compared to the main camera.

Two trigger the zoom lense you need decent lighting+distance. It also doesnt work in aprature-portrait mode only in photos/hdr or video recordings.

Note9 2x zoom is 12mp which is definitely higher res than mate20pro 8mp, but with mate20pro it combine both zoom and main camera so you can get 5x hybrid zoom in good lighting.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] joserxk:
In love with super macro mode
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] cornel.atomei:
Here are some comparisons of the mate 20 pro VS some of its competition i've made: (VS the Galaxy Note 9) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPPoQG5JQIg&t=74s (VS the Sony Xperia XZ2 Premium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r79XDAJkFP8&t=378s (VS the Pixel 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rS5gLFIIpA&t=188s)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] cyphex:
Hello guys ,

I am reading all these comments about the camera.

I have to say that yes it takes amazing photos , but i think i am having some issue

Im not sure if its an issue but ... anw

When ever i try to take a photo like Point&Shoot scenario , where you are somewhere and something happens and i want to snap a photo i notice that most of those photos are not good.

Also i notice that when ever i take a photo (if its not super brightened area/location) i see a message saying "Sharpening the photos please stay steady" something like that and those photos mostly are very blurry because i was not steady because as i said i Pointed and Shoot

Anyone else having similar behaviour?

I am ont 9.0.0.153 (LYA-L29)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Yup thats the way Huawei capturing photos since the very beginning on all of its device, in certain scene condition (especially low lights). The 'sharpening the photo' appear & you have to steady your hands for a while, because image stacking is happening to keep the photos clear from noise & making it look sharp.

The only way u can do if u want point & shoot immediately are hold the shutter button until it goes to burst mod. Its faster & resulting a non blurry photo but sacrifice a bit in quality.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] cyphex:
Hmm seems weird to me ..

It felt like there was something wrong with the Phone..

Thank you for your reply
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] twistedh:
I am beyond dissapointed with the camera on this phone. Had a note 8 and then a pixel 2 xl before this, the difference in quality is night and day.

Everything else about the phone is great but I can't let go of the fact they the camera just isn't good enough compared to other phones.

It really isn't very good at the slightest movement when taking a photo and then it becomes blurry.

Not once when using the pixel was I worried about a bad photo, it was just point and shoot and I would almost always get a good shot. But not with this phone, big big let down.

I've taken photos of the same things at the same time with both phones and the pixel comes out on top everytime.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] twistedh:
I can't figure this camera out. Majority of times the pictures are poor compared to my pixel. Then sometimes it produces really detailed photos.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
I've said it before, i'm gonna say it again. The way Huawei camera taking photos are different from others. By logic of it, within 1 second u begin to take pictures after tapping the shutter, it takes numerous of pictures (image stacking), therefore its not the best for moving objects. From image stacking, picture resulting in a superb dynamic range, a very sharp & detailed.

If u want to use it for point & shoot, hold the shutter button until it goes to burst mod, it will resulting in a non blurry photo, especially for moving objects. But quality will be different than normal.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] Rich vgal12:
Lense flare/reflection

Hi guys, new to this forum and been using the phone for a few days... I just noticed that when taking pictures with a very bright object on screen(the sun or a bight lamp) , there is a green spot /reflection in the lense that transfers to the final photo, specially with the 1x and 3x lenses... Does this happen with all your phones? Do you think I should send it for repair? Thank you!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] gamekill:
I think this is a normal flaw on design, your device is not defective.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] Quaz1:
ok so I'm definitely no photographer however I am definitely struggling with the camera for basic point and shoot. I'll get 1 out of say 10, that looks great. What settings are people using ? AI left on or turned off? Any tips would be GREATLY appreciated

I also find the selfie camera to be extremely white washed. Like there's a bright light on or something. That said that could be due to us here in Aus being stuck on .122
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] rowihel2012:
Most off times i use HDR with rear

It gavew me great shots

With selfie

Just manul focus on lights in background

not you face

And overexposed lights will be lower
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] gamekill:
Being on 122 does not help in general, but that cannot be helped until you are able to update. Maybe you could try this? I have not even read thoroughly, sorry if it does not apply for you.

Some things make taking the shots much slower:

1 - AI turned on. Makes things slower as it takes a bit of time to recognize the scene and change camera mode. Try keeping it off, and using either normal Photo mode, or Pro mode.

2 - Auto-focus. It is pretty obvious but I should mention it because in Pro mode, you can set the focus to Manual, and have it fixed in a suitable distance for your photos. Time between snaps will be much faster.

3 - But, if you use Pro mode and want to take lots of pics fast, you should keep the option for RAW format OFF. As the RAW photos are pretty large (some take around 80mb) it takes a bit of time after you shoot for the RAW file to finish saving before you are allowed to take the next shot. You lose the ability to have those more detailed and realistic RAWs, but you gain space and speed.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] D1G1TE:
Super Macro mode on Mate 20 PRO! :)

[IMG="Mate 20 PRO - Super Macro mode"]https://imgur.com/a/UAJrS3g[/IMG]
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] vandal4e:
nice try but it looks like water painting maybe you can pull crucial detail from raw capture
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] galr:
I recommend joining the largest Huawei Mobile Photography group. It has tons of useful info and amazing photos:

Huawei International Mobile Photography
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] WarVic:
Hi everyone. I'm on 183 firmware. Just wondering are there any photo quality improvements in newer builds? I'm asking it because I'm not really satisfied with it. Often focusing issues, washed out / oversmoothered people faces even with Master AI Off is a concern. Also the level of details could be better (coming from Pixel 3). Thanks
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] djingonthenet:
If you haven't tried it yet, turn off 4d predictive focusing - I've been having the same issues with soft or blurry images, turned this feature off and all of a sudden every shot is crystal clear even with AI mode on
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] WarVic:
Awesome, thanks for advise. Certainly will do it. I wasn't aware what is that feature responsible for.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
The oversmooth faces persist on normal mode or portrait? If portrait, it has beauty mode level 5 by default, u have to manually change it to level 0.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] WarVic:
Faces oversmooth presented on normal photos. Didn't play with portrait mode yet. I'd say that somehow one out of 5 face photo comes out great. All others are oversmoothed, lack of details and out of focus a bit. It happens in Auto mode with Master AI Off. Switching to Pro mode without touching any settings there though doesn't make any difference.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] denvysb:
Hi everyone, just had this phone delivered and pretty disappointed with the camera. I read so many good reviews about this phone, my heart sank each time we took a photo.

Wife does food vlogging, so lots of food shots on the go. Coming from a Samsung S6 edge, we were expecting a huge improvement. But every shot we took on the M20PRO, the image 9 out of 10 times seem to be worse. It appeared to be either exaggerate the dark shadowed areas to the point all the detail in the dark areas were lost.

Sometimes the highlights are overblown, sometimes dark areas darkened too much, sometimes over sharpened too much, focus only focussing on a very small radius making the whole image on a whole blurry. Rather than capturing and keeping in focus a larger portion of the image.

To the point she'd give up and end up going back to the S6 just to get something half decent. The image on the S6 was always at least consistent in every situation, capturing all the details and there wasn't such sharp cut off between the light and dark areas. The M20PRO seems erratic what it does and when.

Im in my 14 days to return the phone, already contemplating sending it back. So far approx 50 real life uses and probably only 2-3 shots turn out decent. But before I do, I want to make sure Im not missing something i.e settings etc. How is everyone getting such good consistent shots regardless what scenario/lighting?

I've got the AI turned off, 10MP selected using Photo Mode and on version 9.0.0.198
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] gamekill:
I was a bit disappointed after all the hype on reviews too, but not THAT disappointed. I came from a Note 9 and while I loved how good the N9 camera was, I was expecting the Mate 20 Pro to be even better, but in fact it is the same. So, same as Note 9 which was very good. I had a Galaxy S6 some years ago and after that, an S7 which for me had a much better camera. Then after that the Mate 10 Pro, again, better camera than S7. Then Note 9, a bit better than Mate 10 Pro. Now Mate 20 Pro, comparable to Note 9, so really, much better camera than S6 (for me).

As you mentioned, choosing the 10mp mode and turning off AI helps a lot. Also try turning off the 4D focus option. Apart from that, what I usually do for close up shots (as you mentioned you are trying to take pics of food) is use Pro mode and zoom out to 0.6x so as to force the usage of the wide camera. And of course touching the screen area around where I want the focus to be, but varying the touch point a few tries until the lighting looks good.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] WarVic:
Hi there. That's pretty much my feelings about the phone's camera as well. Especially after highest ever photo score on DxO mark and numerous exciting phone reviews. Came from Pixel 3 to have better camera experience. 3 camera monster supposed to completely demolish "orphan" Pixel camera. But it seems didn't happen so far. Mate 20 Pro photos severely suffer from the lack of consistency. I really hope that Huawei will do some further software optimizations and camera tweaks before I switch to Galaxy S10.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
U might wanna hold on before switching to S10. Their cameras using smaller sensor than Mate 20. Its a bit higher dynamic range in daylight (which can edited on Mate 20 to achieve the same result), and its cannot beat Mate 20 in terms of low light photography. - [youtube]gQSjAftDRXo[/youtube]
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] WarVic:
Okay, you're right. I'll wait for a few month. S10 is severely overpriced right now anyway. I just want my Mate 20 Pro work as advertised. There is still a huge room for camera optimization. I'm not talking about numerous EMUI annoyances here. Cheers
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
I just wondering, u bought Pixel 3, which already has the best main camera, why switch to Huawei? Huawei may not be the best in terms of natural-looking photo (Its Leica-style photography by the way), but it beats Pixel in terms of highlight preservation (especially lowlights), higher dynamic range & better versatility (ultra wide angle, super macro, telephoto).

Here are my latest pics taken recently.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] JP10101:
I couldn't keep it. It aggravated the hell out of me, especially considering it is supposed to be a great camera. My HTC U11 had better processing. I went back to Htc with the U12 Plus and my god is the camera impressive!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] WarVic:
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Yes, that's my bad. You're right again. I shouldn't switch to Huawei. I was caught by their brilliant advertising campaign and all praising and seems paid reviews. Pixel phones are missing telephoto, wide angle lenses and unable to take close up pictures. That was the main reason to switch. I don't know what Leica style photos is but I doubt that it means "lack of details, slightly out of focus and a bit blurry". This is what I see on high quality 24" IPS full HD screen when do side by side comparison with Pixel 3 photos. Certainly not good look for Leica brand with Huawei. Please have a look at a couple of late evening shots and a scenery one directly came out from Pixel 3. Look at the level of fine details on the very distant objects even when zoom in. Also see no blur / out of focus objects anywhere. This is what I wanted to see from the Mate 20 Pro at the very least!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] denvysb:
Ive decided the phone is going back. Such a shame, sometimes it takes the best photos I have ever seen, but it so rare to achieve whats the point.

The selfie camera is so bad and zoom does nothing: Will never use it

4k video so much stutter & lag: Will never use it

1080p 60FPS less stutter but there nevertheless: Will never use it

1080p FHD+ is the only one where there was no stutter, but again issue with focus catching up: Will never use it

Video Wide Abysmal (I wish I could upload the video to show you, I mean old Nokia N90 could probably do better no kidding, if I can upload it somewhere please let me know just to prove it, it was soo bad and cartoonish fully blurred): Will never use it

Night Mode you try focus on the subject, but the TV light causes the camera to focus on the TV instead of the subject. The subject totally dark: Will never use it

Notifications all over the place, never shows the accurate notifications: Annoying because I think I have a new message, then check and I dont or the other way around.

Camera is the biggest disappointment. I am not going to sit there attempting to take the same shot a thousand times in the hope one will come out ok. Nor am I going to sit there still forever hoping I dont move my hands to prevent a slight change in light to alter the image.

Man what a disappointment.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Real Life Review] Everlite92:
Wanted to replace my Xiaomi Mi 8 withe the Mate 20 Pro and i have to say i have never been so dissappionted. The Xiaomi's camera takes better photos. How is this possible?????? Wondering if its only a software thing or the hardware is crap....