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[Magisk] captain sideways:
Sorry for the double post above.

OK so I'm home and flashed the previous magisk (20425). Double checked my Adaway is updated and running w/ root access and reinstalled the Lloyd's app - my conclusion is that it's deffo the Lloyd's app that is detecting root/unlocked bootloader. My other banking app I installed only yesterday is still working fine so it's not the recent magisk update :( if its relevant, I pass magisk's safety net test with both 20425 and 20426

I can make do with the browser version for now but it is a bit of a piss on :(
[Magisk] chrisross:
I'm even more confused now. I thought it was the unlocked bootloader Santander was triggering on(Magisk/Twrp/Titanium removed), but I re-locked it (app worked fine), then unlocked it again - and Santander still worked! I then installed the Magisk Manager (not Magisk itself), 'hid' it - and 'root' was detected -even though I hadn't rooted it.

For now I've resigned myself to keeping my OP8 Pro unrooted, at least until Android 11 is released and I see what happens with Magisk at that time.

But I'm still running it with unlocked bootloader and Santander is fine.
[Magisk] jimstevo:
I was curious about this, on my unrooted phone installed magisk, boom my app is locked and i cant login, dumb devs, blocking anyone out who has magisk.
[Magisk] jimger:
Does anyone knows what triggers the green king app to fail ? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greeneking.orderandpay

I have some other apps failing too like myalpha wallet https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobile.alphabank.myAlphaWallet_android

It seems we need to hide something with magisk hide but I haven't figured out what... Maybe sth from system?

Is there any way to hide everything until I find that out?
[Magisk] captain sideways:
Just for testing, I uninstalled all my modules, then magisk, then manager and restored stock boot.img

Lloyd's still detects root so must be unlocked bootloader :( I didn't relock it as I seem to remember that it wipes my phone and I haven't got time to do all that :(

Pixel 3a

Android 11

Latest Magisk Canary build.

So, yeah, detecting unlocked bootloader?
[Magisk] captain sideways:
Yep looks familiar but I don't have the app any more, I did some testing with it last week and I think it's detecting unlocked bootloader :(
[Magisk] Spartacus500:
Work for me ok green King app

MyAlphaWallet app also works, but if I give permission for "phone" then the app does a crash
[Magisk] jimger:
Not the case for me... I managed to actually overcome that problem by installing island and green king on work profile...
[Magisk] jimger:
For my alpha app I managed to overcome the problem after I u installed magisk manager. I enabled the nfc payments and then restored magisk. But u need an account for that. I just wanted to know how it detects it
[Magisk] sam00561:
any news about which magisk to use with android 11 custom roms. I am being forced to stay on old rom because santander app cant be hidden from root detection on android 11 roms does anyone have soloution yet please.
[Magisk] jimger:
Have u tried to install Lloyds on work profile? Probably u can get away with island using that
[Magisk] Mubarak_A:
I give up trying to get Santander to work on Android 11 with xiaomi eu rom even with island app installed I couldn't. Looks like I have to stick with the web version for now
[Magisk] jimger:
Have u tried to delete/rename twrp? Are u using the modified magisk?
[Magisk] Mubarak_A:
No I'm using magisk 21.1 which works fine, tried magisk hide it works for other apps but not santander, I also couldn't find the TWRP folder/file in my internal storage
[Magisk] jimger:
At least for me for Santander I needed the modified magisk. But since it is in 20.4 I don't know if it can work on android 11
[Magisk] dead0:
unfortunately im in the same boat too. seems santander app doesnt play nice with magisk 21.1 on android 11 so also reverted back to android 10 with modded 20.4. i have tried running v20.4 on android 11 (poco f2) but doesnt install
[Magisk] sam00561:
I am on magisk 21.2 manager hidden twrp folder renamed still detecting root in Santander. There must be a way this is so annoying.
[Magisk] iwantademo123:
My method to fix this:

Gave up with this and have a legit non-jb iPhone as a second phone for banking. Haha
[Magisk] sam00561:
There will be a method at some point I'd rather cut my D*** of than use an iPhone
[Magisk] iwantademo123:
🤣🤣

It ain't all bad if it's only for banking and stuff like discord on the side to free up use of the main android beast phone

But yeah I have a genuine method to get Santander working , but it's a bit experimental and weird things can happen in the magisk app. It does work tho, I have 3-4 phones in the household using it (OnePlus 5, 6 & nord). Things may or may not work for you though

Anyone interested, Drop me a DM if you would like instructions and links to the method, I'd post publicly but It's as I said experimental and can get patched real quick too
[Magisk] bigpotato107:
I used the method in op to use lloyds tht works but barclays and lloyds fingerprint login no longer working! Barclays was before using adaway but after turning it off still no joy with fingerprint login? Have to use pin code instead
[Magisk] iwantademo123:
My Santander method also breaks fingerprint but other than that works , but the reason why fingerprint isn't working is explainable for my method so I just left it like that cause at least the banking works with pin haha
[Magisk] bigpotato107:
I had universal safetynet fix running as module and after turning it off and resetting Barclays and Lloyds apps they both work with fingerprint Also the only thing in adaway is the bank file.. S20 Rooted Magisk 21.4 Manager 8.0.7 Stable: Magisk is hidden and working
[Magisk] iwantademo123:
Good find! might check that out. Thanks
[Magisk] mamama07:
Mine lloyds app works flawlessly with fingerprint unlock option ON. Safety patch applied (v1.1.1) and app in magisk hide is enabled.
[Magisk] Didgeridoohan:
That fingerprint authentication stops working on some devices (Samsung and Xiaomi seems to be commonly affected) after installing the new Universal SafetyNet Fix is well known and discussions with workarounds and possibly ways forward are currently being discussed on the modules Github repo.
[Magisk] aorifan:
Is it safe to add the list to your host file? Don't even know what all these URLs are for. Could blocking them cause other issues on your phone?
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I have Oneplus3T with Havoc 3.9 OS and the latest stable Magisk and MagiskManager. I have 6 banking apps (Barclays Natawest, Halifax, HSBC, Lloyds, Santader UK& GooglePay & Paypal & more and ALL works well except bloody Santander UK app. It is really annoying that i was able to run the app (with custom update channel on magisk) around June last year but -was working till the next update- since that no working. Even if i delete TWRP app and freeze the titanium Backup Pro app with SDMaid Pro just does not work. I was trying the beta and canary version of Magisk also.

I am pretty sure Santander looking something which Magisk does not control. But what is that??
[Magisk] aorifan:
Have you tried blocking those URLs in Adaway? I think there's a reply in this thread contains more URLs some of which are related to Santander.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I have not found that post yet...But looking for it.
[Magisk] lepicane1:
I've given up on rooting as only needed it for AdAway. Since version 5, AdAway can be used on unrooted phones (through VPN) and does what I need it to. I'm now on LOS 18.1, OrangeFox recovery and no issues with any banking apps, including Santander.

Sorry not much help, but Santander is why I moved away from rooting and TWRP, as too much of a pain in the ***.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I see. But i really want it to make work. All my banking apps works well only Santander not. So i will keep on try until i have got succesfully installed.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I have found only the lloyds related adaway export file which contains lloyds trusteer and cloudfront hostnames but no santander related ones...From where can i get it?
[Magisk] lepicane1:
This is what I used a while back in AdAway, but stopped working after Santander updated its app. There was also a modified Magisk module that worked for a while, but then stopped after another Santander update. Maybe a future Magisk update will help.

# This hosts file contains exported entries from AdAway.

127.0.0.1 sc.omtrdc.net

127.0.0.1 www.trusteer.com

127.0.0.1 santanderuk.sc.omtrdc.net

127.0.0.1 omtrdc.net

127.0.0.1 e.crashlytics.com

127.0.0.1 settings.crashlytics.com

127.0.0.1 mupdates.trusteer.com

127.0.0.1 trusteer.com

127.0.0.1 fins.trusteer.com

127.0.0.1 dyknreymc91ut.cloudfront.net

127.0.0.1 ms-ads-events.presage.io

127.0.0.1 ms-ads.presage.io

127.0.0.1 medias.presage.io
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Thanks. Will try but i do not think it will work. I think Santander's root checking so sophisticated then need to wait for a Magisk update.

Anyway i am looking for in the Adaway app where need to copy these hostnames??
[Magisk] lepicane1:
Below is my backup for the newer (root) version of AdAway. See if you can import it. You can check the entries with notepad.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Thanks. I have got it. But unfortunatelly as i was predicted does not help at all. Need to wait for Magisk update. :unsure:

What is the name of magisk module you was using?
[Magisk] lepicane1:
Wasn't a module sorry, it was a modded Magisk installer made by mrspeccy. Have a look in this thread and send him a PM to ask if the modded Magisk is still available. As I said, this worked for a while but then stopped.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I see. I remember when i was able to run the app it was around June-July last year only for few weeks. But it was a custom update channel not pure canary update
[Magisk] rodken:
What exactly does your export list for Adaway provide that the app itself does not already provide?
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I do not have any problem with Lloyds it works well without Adaway also. It means nothing to do with blocking hostaddresses. Only Santander UK detects root but the hostfile you provided does not contain any santander related address.

Thanks in advance.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
The hostlist file outdated. you can not import anymore into new Adaway app as you have to edit JSON format first. But santander related host not included anyway only lloyds.
[Magisk] sam00561:
I really need santander app to work since it is the only thing holding me back from updating to android 11 and i would really like to try it but am stuck on android 10 for the sole reason when trying all types of magisk tricks it simply keeps detecting. I am currently on Miui 12 eu with mr speccy modded version of magisk and santander Gpay and all other bank apps working.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I can say upgrade to Android 11 & use web browser log in until next Magisk update. I do not have better clue
[Magisk] krs360:
Just in case it helps anyone, the attached is what I had to block to get the Halifax app working, along with Universal SafetyNet Fix module and obviously Magisk hide the app.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I have got Halifax working without any Adaway usage. My magisk not even canary just latest stable. However today was updating the Santander UK app. How is that going? Did you try?
[Magisk] VD171:
Using my app VD INFOS you can see every detectable thing. (Root/Magisk/Xposed/Riru/and others.)

And then you can fix what needs to be fixed.

https://xdaforums.com/t/VD-Infos.4097379/
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
thanks mate. i will check it out
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Anybody has got experience with the new Magisk 22.0 stable and Santaner UK combo??
[Magisk] VD171:
Omg, you are so quickly.

It was released 3 hours ago :ROFLMAO:

Did you try that?
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Not yet. I have got no time.
[Magisk] VD171:
Me too.
[Magisk] sam00561:
There's no mention of Santander in the latest magisk changelog
[Magisk] VD171:
Isn't that obvious? Why would there be any mention?

Magisk will not solve your problems.

You solve your problems.
[Magisk] sam00561:
No it's not obvious or I wouldn't have written the comment. I thought magisk was for by passing these sorts of issues.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
There is only one way to find out: try! will do today later on
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I have just installed latest magisk 22 stable on Op3T android 11. magisk package renamed magisk hide enabled. twrp folder deleted and developer options also disabled. latest santander uk still detects root. :( no luck
[Magisk] sam00561:
Your only option is to go back to Android 10 and use magisk modded version like me
[Magisk] VD171:
are you using XPrivacyLua ?

only magisk hide and rename magisk is never enough.

all apps from santander br works like a charm :-)
[Magisk] josehdx:
Hello. I am using the Mexican versions of santander app. Im also using XPrivacyLua while blocking the banking app. The issue i have is, even when XPrivacyLua is blocking the app list for the santander app, this is still detecting some apps with root access like titanium backup, afwall etc. Any idea what to do? Thanks
[Magisk] VD171:
That's simple.

Block everything.

And then, try to open the app.

And then, unblock each blocked item, one by one.

Till app opens correctly.
[Magisk] josehdx:
Believe me that it does not work. I blocked all apps from the user filter and some google related from the system side (framework, webview) but the only solution is to uninstall the rooted apps. I don't know what else to do
[Magisk] VD171:
You don't to block other apps.

Only desired app.
[Magisk] josehdx:
Well, it does not work for me :( is there anyway to find the root cause of the issue? I mean what is triggering the missbehavioir
[Magisk] VD171:
You can try my app VD Infos: https://xdaforums.com/t/app-v1-08-vd-infos-package-com-vitaodoidao-vdinfos.4097379/

And you can see everything that another app can see too.

And then you can fix what need to be fixed.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
i do not know XPrivacyLua. Is that a magisk module? Or from where can i get it?
[Magisk] VD171:
It is a Xposed Module created by @M66B

Take a see: https://xdaforums.com/t/app-xposed-6-0-xprivacylua-android-privacy-manager.3730663/

For XPrivacyLua you need EdXposed or LSposed working together RIRU.

EdXposed, LSposed and Riru, are magisk modules.

If you choose Edxposed, you need to install EdXposed Manager.

If you choose LSposed, you need to install LSposed Manager.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Thanks. I know Riru only but will look for it the rest also.
[Magisk] VD171:
As you can see this is the token screen of the santander br.

Working perfectly together magisk v22.0 and xprivacylua v1.29:
[Magisk] Ascoman:
Had the same problem. My solution was deleting my adblocker. It had root access. So either the adblocker was messing with the santander mx app or the app was detecting the adblocker's root access. Now only using magisk hide and renaming the manager and working fine.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Do not forget Santander UK and Brasil app are different. I mean root detection method also. Did you try with UK version also??
[Magisk] VD171:
I didn't, but if you can attach the apk file, I can try that too. I can't download that from playstore.
[Magisk] josehdx:
I already had your app but honestly im not sure what to look for. I ran the "detect root" "everything" option and after exporting the results, did not find anything related to santander app... Can you explain more? Thanks
[Magisk] VD171:
You need to watch the results exposing your root/magisk.

And then, you need to hide those results.

If you can hide these results from my app, you can also hide these results from any other app.

If you can hide perfectly and my app doesn't show anything exposing your root/magisk, just hide the same for the desired app.
[Magisk] josehdx:
Thanks. I will try this as well, but is weird that my adblocker is working well, the issue are the other apps like titanium....
[Magisk] josehdx:
Well, thanks for the explanation and for your time. But maybe i am not being clear. The santander app does not see the root of my phone. It works fine while hiding magisk and also hiding the root via magisk app. as i mentioned before, i wanted to hide or restrict the banking app via xprivacy, and while it works for some other banking apps I have, it doesn't work for santander. So, my question is, what value should i look for in your app to find the "banned applications" by santander? I think you are mentioning "root/magisk" in order to find the applications that detects the root, but again, im not sure if i am understanding well and i am looking for something else.....
[Magisk] VD171:
If you hide app list using xprivacylua, santander can see only itself installed.

Santander (brazil) does NOT work if you try to restore using titaniumbackup.

I've tried many things, but suddenly they called me and blocked all my passwords.

I'd to go to the bank to unblock my passwords.

Please, attach your apk file, and I will try to hide too
[Magisk] josehdx:
I have sent you a private message.

Thanks
[Magisk] josehdx:
Here is the apk. Thanks!
[Magisk] josehdx:
I did a test and got some logs using logcat reader:

FATAL EXCEPTION: com.google.firebase.crashlytics.startup1

Any idea what does it mean?
[Magisk] VD171:
If app requests for firebase, you need to allow "use analytics".
[Magisk] josehdx:
Where and how should i enable it?
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Here i send the apk file of the app. I was trying with XPrivacyLua but still detecting root. I was trying partial blocking certain apps like magisk EdXposed in Lua but no good result. Also trying block every app but does not help. If you have a good result with this app let me know. If you need the update of the app look for it Aurora store.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I think this app is looking for open bootloader. however magisk and luna can hide root & apps but not able to hide unlocked bootloader. I think this is the problem.
[Magisk] VD171:
Unlocked bootloader is exposed by system properties only.

MagiskHideProps can hide that.

Just see what are the prop to hide.

You can see them using my app VD Infos, just click on "update contents" and search for build props.
[Magisk] josehdx:
I have allowed use analytics on xprivacylua with my banking app. Same issue. Were u able to replicate my case? Thanks
[Magisk] VD171:
I think santander apps requires updated google play services.

Is your gapps okay?
[Magisk] josehdx:
Yes. Everything is fine. As i explained before, the issue is solved when i uninstall titanium backup, and theorically it should be solved by using xprivacylua and hiding apps on my santander apps, but who knows, maybe there is a bug on xprivacylua or something
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
For me does not work with xprivacylua.
[Magisk] ultrametroid:
Hi guys,

I'm trying to get the Santander UK app (4.14.3) working on my OnePlus 6 running Android 10.3.7

I've got magisk 22.0 installed and hidden using hide on the Santander app and hiding magisk itself. I've also installed xprivacylua 1.30 and ticked the Santander app then rebooted. But for some reason the app is still detecting root? I'm also running adaway and titanium backup. Oh and I've deleted my twrp folder. Any suggestions to what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
That app makes me mad. :(
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Same problem with me on OnePlus3T. Literally i was trying everything.I do not know what else shall we try in order to get that bloody app to work. I have other banknig apps & more root-sensitive apps and all works well. Since last year August i am unable to launch the app on rooted environment. I use website log in as i need root on my phone.

Hopefully somebody will make a nice magisk module to fix this issue.

The bank says this is for security reason...But log in from web browser on rooted phone is working... So what is the point to block the app itself on rooted environment if i can log in from browser? Browser also running on rooted phone...

Bull****. :mad:
[Magisk] fromble:
@VD171 I think I'm getting a bit lost, I suspect Santander UK is detecting other Apps so to investigate I am using your Info app.

No matter what I do in XPrivacyLua VD infos always detects other apps by apps list, even though this is restricted in XPrivacyLua - what am I missing?
[Magisk] Spartacus500:
Samsung Galaxy S7 custom stock Rom 9.0 Pie NFE, I have Titanium backup applications and many others like Lucky patcher, with Magisk 22 Santander Bank UK detects root, and if I remove Magisk root all Banking applications work with these applications, so if there is Magisk root then Banking applications check installed applications, and if there is no root, the application is not disturbed by installed applications from other source 😔
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I did format data. Was wiping everything includes internal storage. I did clean flash of the ROM. I did not install any other apps like Titanuim backup & staff like that. So it was nothing on my phone would disturb SantanderUK. Simply root the phone set up & hide magisk and SantanderUK was not work anymore. Detects root. If i was removing magisk santanderUK was back to life.
[Magisk] VD171:
Apps listed are detected using SHELL exec.

You can avoid that using the "use.shell" collection to xprivacylua created by Fif_:

https://lua.xprivacy.eu/repo/view?id=126

https://lua.xprivacy.eu/repo/view?id=125

https://lua.xprivacy.eu/repo/view?id=124

https://lua.xprivacy.eu/repo/view?id=123

https://lua.xprivacy.eu/repo/view?id=122

https://lua.xprivacy.eu/repo/view?id=121

https://lua.xprivacy.eu/repo/view?id=120

You can download them directly using the app xprivacylua pro too.
[Magisk] josehdx:
No working with santander mx while titanium is installed :(

Am I doing something wrong? please find attachments
[Magisk] fromble:
That worked, thanks! But Santander UK just crashes immediately so I'm no further forward...
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I think software dev working for SantanderUK branch getting ****loads of money. ;):cool::LOL:
[Magisk] aorifan:
What is your point? People here are talking about how to make Santander app work with root. You remove root of course everything will work as expected!
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Official Santander post says:"

Unfortunately if your device is detected as rooted you will not be able to use it to access Santander Mobile Banking. We block access to the app from devices with non-standard security settings to help protect our customers' money. As an alternative, you can still access your accounts using Online Banking. ^KC"

What are "non-standard" settings? This is not a help at all...:(
[Magisk] VD171:
Are you using a custom rom or something customized on your system than root ?
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Custom ROM with Magisk EdXposed Xprivacy Lua. Just a "normal" rooted phone. Nothing special.
[Magisk] jhobc:
This app (Santander UK) is using Isolated Process and a scan of your installed apps to detect root.

Just use latest Magisk Canary + Repack of Manager + Riru Core v. 23.9 + Unshare Module (to enable Magisk Hide for Isolated Process) and this app will work perfectly with root. I tested on my device. (Mi 9T Pro + MIUI 12.5 - A11)

Riru Core v. 23.9 can be downloaded from Magisk Repo.

Download Riru Unshare Module from the link below:

https://github.com/vvb2060/riru-unshare/releases/download/v1.0/riru-unshare-1.0.zip

Enable Magisk Hide for the app and its processes (uk.co.santander.santanderUK and uk.co.santander.santanderUK : oa.UB)

If the app FC right after starting you need to search for a possible installed app triggering the detection or simple revoke the permission "Get info about installed apps" at app settings (this can differ from device to device)

After every update of the app the Isolated Process name can be different so just re-add it to Magisk Hide again and everything should be fine.

More info about the exploit (Isolated Process) used by a large numbers of banks to detect Magisk:

Detecting Magisk Hide

Magisk is one of the popular rooting tools for Android. Magisk Manager is an app which helps to manage the magisk module and also comes with other features.One such notable feature is Magisk hide. …

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