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[Magisk] Infinity1010:
There is a problem with these new updates for both Halifax and Lloyds Banking apps!

For whatever reason the Halifax banking app version 104.03 and Lloyds banking app 104.03 (Lloyds owns both banks) Crashes on some custom roms and other systems and not sure why? I have only been able to find the Lloyds banking app version 102.02 on APK Mirror. If I install this version the app loads fine (No crash on boot) but once I update it to 104.03 the app crashes? I'm assuming that if I downgrade the Halifax app to 102.03 it will do the same.

I was able to rip the Halifax APK 104.03 file from Google Play Store and install it onto my Nvidia Shield. It boots perfectly fine on that just to test the app. My phone is running the Pixel Experience custom rom. I installed a fresh install of this rom on my phone no mods, no Magisk, no root! The Halifax app still crashes? As mentioned above even my Windows 11 subsystem (Internal Android system) this version of the app 104.03 crashes?

Maybe I will have to wait and see if it's a bug or a security feature in future updates of this app.

In the mean time if anyone on here has an older version of the Halifax app APK file that would be helpful!
[Magisk] bombadier:
All i can suggest at the moment is to try and get a logcat to see what is causing the app to force close, have you tried clearing data/cache after upgrading from the older version? Or a clean install? What rom and android version are you on? I have a pixel 4a running stock android 13, have just installed lloyds app, hid it, rebooted and it loads and authenticates the device but i dont have an account so cant take it further, try and geta log with the error when the app force closes
[Magisk] pauljblo:
can anyone get the vanquis app working?
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
The thing is you can not really use older version of those banking apps. If you are lucky you can use it for few weeks but later or sooner the app will force you to update whatever cracked older version you use...

I have no time to do a workaround for this right now, but will try to do it next week. If you have any update about it let me know!

I am using custom rom AICP android 11 at the moment. So far i have 6 banking apps on my phone but only Halifax and Lloyds having root detect issue. Actually these two apps are the same. Only the color and logo are different. 😁

Lets see the next few weeks they will do update and how will it work...
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I have set up HMA just now. So far so good. Halifax Lloyds Santander HSBC Natwest and Barclays has been tested succesfully. I am using latest official Magisk and LsPosed. Shamiko is on after i was disabling config list on magisk settings. 😁👍👍

But i dont know if i have any updates of this apps mentioned do i have to update my app list on HMA?? Or will do it automatically?

I mean on magisk some adjustment was neccessary... See the pics below
[Magisk] bombadier:
Should not need to update the app list unless the app update changes something package name, you will know if something stops working and if it does you will have a wee bit of troubleshooting to look forward to
[Magisk] krystiano:
Hi. Can someone help me plz.

My Lloyds app not working on my rooted pixel 6 pro.

I have selected in denylist in magisk app but still app detected root on my phone.

There is any solution for this.

(Barclays working ok )
[Magisk] bombadier:
Try Hide My Applist or search this thread
[Magisk] samftw24:
Latest hide my app list, see previous page for guide
[Magisk] OrionBG:
I followed the guide for setting up HMA but I think I'm missing something in the Root list as aps are still seeing it. I put the renamed magisk and HMA but can't find any more to add...
[Magisk] johnr64:
Hi,

I use SDmaid to hide my renamed Magisk on my Poco F3 and this works great , what is the App that is causing you issues :unsure:
[Magisk] OrionBG:
Hey,

Currently its the Lloyds bank app and British Gas app... Also Revolut... Basically all apps I have that detect root... Something is wrong with my configuration... The funny part is that the detection app that checks if everything is ok is saying ok on all fields so I'm at a loss here.
[Magisk] OrionBG:
Update! Finally got it working. I missed the part about Shamiko and after installing it all apps are happy again :)
[Magisk] johnr64:
Hi,

As a test i tried both your problem apps, i first tried the Lloyds bank app, i managed to go as far as the signing up page with out any intervention, but i couldn`t go any further due to not having a LB account.

I then tried the British Gas app but it didn`t load correctly,

i was faced with a white screen and BG logo only,

i unfroze magisk and added BG to the deny list and then re-froze Magisk using SDMaid.

I cleared the BG STORGE/CACHE and without re-starting my Poco F3, the app started working, i managed to go as far as the sign-up page, but again i`m not with BG and i could proceed any further.

The things you do for FUN:)
[Magisk] OrionBG:
Yeah the Lloyds app tells you you are rooted after you try to login. It still glitches for me sometimes but will figure it out. British gas app does only show black screen if it sees the root. Works now.
[Magisk] johnr64:
Hi,

Strange:unsure:, i have Santander, Natwest, and Tescos Pay+ (Now Wallet) installed on my F3, "these are all working fine by the way",

if i don`t add them to the deny list and also rename Magisk and then re-freeze Magisk with SDMaid, all three apps detect root at start up?
[Magisk] testemailmailx:
There other apps facing same issue could you find a way to bypass them ?

Here are the links on google play :

SNB Banking

Government App
[Magisk] johnr64:
Hi,

I tried SNB and it crashed at start up, i did add it to the deny list, added build props, ect froze magisk with SDMaid but still the same issue.

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i found this on reddit,

I have the same app SNB now they update it to a new version and it crashes load (I think it is detecting root), also tawakalna services, Nafath and absher detects root now.

I have shamiko, Hide my applist and safety net and nothing is working. also tried island. I also pass on all root detectors (YASNAC, Oprek,Applist Detector, Magisk Detector)

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I would suggest to clean install a rom that passes safetynet with out intervention and try installing SNB to see if it works.

I use Evo-X and this passes safteynet, V7.5 has just been released,

You are not alone with this issue

Hi,

Sorry for not getting back sooner, i managed to get SNB Working,

by installing Shamiko v0.6 Magisk module you need to uncheck Enforce DenyList, for this module to work.

I could not get pass Absher "your device is not secure" nag screen,

I'm assuming it knows i have a unlocked bootloader.

This was tested on a Poco F3 EEA Version, Running a CLEAN install of

Evolution-X V7.5 with OrangeFox Recovery and a renamed Magisk V25.2 being hidden/Frozen by SDMaid,

I hope you sort it.
[Magisk] anoninous7890:
@johnr64 I have a POCO F3 phone too, with magisk V25.2, but a different ROM - I have Pixel Experience.

I have been able to get Santander and Revolut apps to work just fine using this guide, however my Metro bank app is no longer working. Any chance you could tell me if it works for you so that I can perhaps try installing/uninstalling things so my phone is in a similar shape as yours?

It was working fine until 2023/02/07 (or the day before, not 100% sure), and then the next day it gave me the following message when I opened it, after which it closed automatically:

"

SORRY, THE APP CAN'T BE USED ON THIS DEVICE

<Image of blue phone in a grey circle>

To keep you personal information safe,

the app cant be used on this device as the

security configuration on this phone may

have been altered.

OK [This is inside a blue button]

"

Note that the Metro bank app has not had a google play store update since 2023/01/20.

I suspect they have updated their servers to use the new Play Integrity API (which is better at detecting root to my understanding)
[Magisk] johnr64:
Hi, I rebuilt my phone tonight sadly I was also faced the the same security issue, I guess its because my bootloder is unlocked, I hope there is a fix around the corner as I use banking apps regularly on my F3
[Magisk] LaurenceGough:
Guys, simple solution I'd suggest you go with modern banks that aren't so silly on unnecessary "root" detection.

I'd highly recommend Starling, Chase and Natwest banks they all work perfectly fine and have always done so. I'm sure there are plenty more.

I only install Magisk to get Google Pay/Wallet working (SafetyNet) on LineageOS, I really have no need for root otherwise. LineageOS was required for my phone as Motorola broke the stock ROM so badly with their OTA patches that myself and others couldn't even make phone calls without rebooting first.
[Magisk] johnr64:
Hi Simple solution:unsure: yes, practicality no, i have 3 banking apps & Pay+ that all detect root, if you are a minimal user or just starting out then it`s the way to go i also use Natwest, there are other online banks that detect root that i tried for fun but haven`t found a workaround for.

if the Banks in the UK decide to adopt the same type of protection, unlocking the Bootloader and Rooting your phone could be a MAJOR issue until a FIX is found.
[Magisk] LaurenceGough:
It is a simple solution if in the UK just use the current account switch in the UK to effortlessly switch. If you still need to use one of these old fashioned banks for savings accounts etc you can just use a website.

Don't give these companies that cause us problems any business I say unless they offer market leading rates by some distance...
[Magisk] bombadier:
Endless game of cat and mouse continues, am on the Halifax app version 108.03, using the latest magisk canary build 25209,there was a problem with the previous two versions not being able to hide the magisk app, thats now been fixed but I cannot for the life of me get the halifax app to work, have tried everything that was working up until recently, root checkers all tell me magisk is hidden, am using hide my app list and it is configured correctly, have uninstalled halifax app, installed again, added it to the deny list etc before opening, but still detects root, app was updated on the 24 th February and was working up until I updated magisk, when i couldnt hide the magisk app i didnt open the halifax app, hows everyone elses experience?
[Magisk] first_damned:
Try ice box, freeze magisk to use your bank app then unfreeze
[Magisk] bombadier:
Thanks for the suggestion will give it a try, would rather work out what is wrong with my setup and think it may be an issue with the latest magisk, although all the root checker apps show that magisk is hidden, for some reason the halifax app now detects root, would be interested to hear from other halifax users about their set up and magisk versions
[Magisk] first_damned:
Barclays is doing exactly the same thing. I too am looking for a solution
[Magisk] bombadier:
Just tried using icebox froze magisk and tried opening the halifax app, still detecting root :( cant for the life of me work out whats going on as all the root checkers report magisk as hidden, google pay working fine as well, i know lloyds seems to need some websites blocked in adaway to work, never needed to do that for the halifax in the past and cant see any unusual websites being pinged in adaway, can't seem to find an easy way to downgrade magisk back to the last version that was working, will just have to get used to using the web login for the foreseeable
[Magisk] first_damned:
What rom are you using?
[Magisk] bombadier:
Phone is a pixel 4a on stock android 13, everything was working fine up until i updated magisk which broke the app hide function, installed the latest version which seems to of fixed the app hide problem, at least is being reported as being hidden, thing is after the halifax app updated it was still working, didnt use it until i could hide Magisk, since the update cant use the halifax app grrrr
[Magisk] first_damned:
For me it's since barclays updated there app, it seems banking apps have a new way of detecting magisk / root.
[Magisk] bombadier:
That happened with the halifax app a couple of months ago, i had to start using hidemyapplist which fixed it, last time i was wondering if it was detecting an unlocked bootloader, interested to know what its detecting
[Magisk] first_damned:
Hide my app list doesn't work for me with barclays app. Nothing worked, they've sure done a good job in detecting root
[Magisk] westruk:
Have you tried Magisk Delta?
[Magisk] first_damned:
Yes, still no good. Tried hide my app, shamiko too. Deleted twrp folder.
[Magisk] whatsisnametake2:
having the same problem on halifax and mbna. pixel 6 pro android 12, canary magisk and all the usual workarounds, freezing etc, was working fine until app update 2 days ago. none of the usual methods are working any more, detects root. both apps also now hard crash the phone when trying to use them.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I have six banking apps on my phone. Only one detects root. (Barclays) Santander Lloyds Halifax etc. are working fine. I am afraid Barclays is detecting my open bootloader. Therefore i am looking for a solution how to hide opened bootloader from banking apps. :rolleyes:
[Magisk] westruk:
Try this method:

Latest Magisk Delta (canary)​

Enable Zygisk​

Magisk Hide​

Configure Magisk Hide (add bank app )​

Hide Magisk App - rename magisk delta ppp​

Install Universal SafetyNet Fix 2.4.0 module.​
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
What about Shamiko? If i use Shsmiko module i have to disable Enforce Deny List in Magisk otherwise shamiko's blacklist mode can not be activated. But every banking apps and gpay does work except Barclays. However if i enable enforce deny list and disable/remove shamiko module then lloyds and halifax and santander also detects root. I use the latest stable Magisk with 2.4 safetynetfix.
[Magisk] bombadier:
Could you please share some details of your setup, I had the Halifax banking app working fine until I updated to some of the most recent canary builds, the latest is 25210, modules dont load with that build (eg Viper4android and adaway), the previous versions hiding the app was broken and so I didn't use the Halifax app, on canary 25210 I can hide the magisk app again but the Halifax app detects root, I have managed to revert to magisk 25206 which was the version that worked for me up until the other week, however the halifax app which also got updated the other day to 109.02 is still detecting root, the last time I had major problems with the Halifax app hidemyapplist fixed it and has been working fine until recently, tried delta at the time but couldn't get it to work, may have to try with delta again as the setup I had that was working is no longer hiding root, annoyingly root checkers report magisk as hidden, wallet and netflix both work, using Ruru v1.1.0 has two things its found, namely under Libc File Detection com.tsng.hidemyapplist and Syscall File Detection it finds the same com.tsng.hidemyapplist, not sure what I need to do to hide them and dont know if the halifax is detecting hidemyapplist, magisk is hidden, needing some tips as to where my setup is going wrong

I see from the post above you are using USNF offical 2.4.0 think there are some issues with that and is recommended to use displax's version https://xdaforums.com/t/module-mod-universal-safetynet-fix.4553699/
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
HMA is useless now. Magisk canary also broken. I just use Magisk stable 25.4 i think and safetynetfix 2.4 (see screenshoots on my previous post) and Shamiko. Disable enfroce deny list to get shamiko access to run blacklist mode. And also need to hide AND freeze magisk!! So u rename magisk and reboot. after that use any third party app like AppManager or SDmaid and look for the renamed magisk package and freeze it. after that rebbot again. obviously add the banking apps to hide list and do settings like adding modules etc. before freezing.
[Magisk] first_damned:
Does this work for latest barclays app do you know? Could you test to see if it comes up with error 0006 when you open the app and put in a pin code
[Magisk] bombadier:
ok so hma don't work no more, may have to see if I have better luck with delta then, I am back on canary 25206 which was working fine with the previous version of the Halifax app,version 108.03, cant remember if hidemyapplist was flagged in Ruru before or if thats whats now causing me problems, at the end of my tether with the whole nonsense
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Yes. i also have this annoying 0006 error and AND something error. i have just tried few hours ago Santander and does work but not barclays. all apps are the latest version.
[Magisk] first_damned:
Have you tried renaming and hiding magisk?

It seems alot of banking apps have changed there root detection methods, but I presume one day someone will find a work around. I've changed roms for now and not using magisk.
[Magisk] bombadier:
Yeah when i updated to a canary build it broke being able to hide the magisk app, i didnt use the halifax app until i could hide magisk again, on canary build 25210,since then i cant use the halifax app even though everything is hidden, reverted back to magisk 25206 which was working but halifax still sees me as rooted, wallet is fine through everything, cant figure out why the halifax will not work with the same setup that used to work
[Magisk] first_damned:
Has the Halifax app updated since it worked before?
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Forget about Magisk Canary and Delta. just use the stable. i know there is some unofficial safetynetfix somewhere but i could not find it. i will try with that one how is it working.
[Magisk] first_damned:
Displax safety net fix. Let us know how it goes please
[Magisk] bombadier:
Yeah when it worked it was version 108.03 and magisk 25206, 7 8 9 broken magisk hide didnt use the halifax app, magisk 25210 could hide the app but halifax v108.3 detected root so was thinking canary 25210 is still broken, halifax app updated to 109.02 yesterday or day before, reverted to magisk 25206 which used to work but the updated halifax app detects root, through all this google wallet has kept working and magisk is reported as being hidden by root checkers so dont know what's going on
[Magisk] first_damned:
Some kind of voodoo magic 🤔
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I dont recommend to use older version of banking apps. it might work for few days or weeks only. then it will force u to update it anyway. :confused:😞
[Magisk] bombadier:
@tyler19820201 I posted a link to the unofficial USNF mod in a previous post, at the time Play integrity checker would randomly fail device and basic integrity on USNF 2.4.0,displax's version seemed to work consistently,

I know the updates will get you in the end and so never try to stay on an older version, took me a while to manage to revert to magisk 25206 and unfortunately there was an update to the halifax app,think I am stuck using the website for the foreseeable as I cant work it out, dont want to do something radical as everything else is working fine, @first_damned definitely some kind of hoodoo voodoo going on
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Displax v2.4.0 MOD 1.2 i have just tried now. does not work. :(

But i dont trust Delta honestly. Does it trustworth? I always use stable magisk. No canary no delta. Do u use delta, right?
[Magisk] bombadier:
Have been sticking to official Magisk but would use Delta if it provided a solution, don't have any concerns as the developer of delta contributes to official magisk, I started using canary builds as they were suggested when I was trying to find a solution, the last few builds have been broken( I know its the nature of canary builds), for me the only reason I didnt use delta was at the time it didn't provide a solution, that was why I started using hidemyapplist as it worked in hiding root from the halifax app, I still think that my problem is being caused by something left in my system as a result of the broken canary builds, although I have no idea if that is true, downgrading magisk is a hassle unless you keep a patched version of the version you want to downgrade to, or I cant be bothered with the hassle and time to uninstall everything and reinstall, stuck with webpage banking for the foreseeable looks like
[Magisk] first_damned:
@tyler19820201 @bombadier apparently a older version of the barclays app still works, here is a link. Version 2.72.2

Barclays (Android)

Access your bank accounts with Barclays

barclays-bank-plc-banking.en.uptodown.com

Please test and report back.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Ok. thanks
[Magisk] first_damned:
Fingers crossed it still works
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Yes. For few days or weeks only...
[Magisk] bombadier:
Cheers but its only the halifax app that I use and unfortunately the clock is ticking when using older versions, just kicking the problem down the road
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Yes. I can confirm it does work. Now i have all six UK main banking apps working on my phone. For a while....
[Magisk] first_damned:
Excellent im glad it's working for you. Otherwise I can only suggest using the Web version
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
did u try this "zygiskless" module method?

GitHub - HuskyDG/MagiskHide at v1.6

Portable MagiskHide. Contribute to HuskyDG/MagiskHide development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com
[Magisk] first_damned:
Excellent im glad it's working for you. Otherwise I can only suggest using the Web

It apparently works, but I need zygisk to use the universal safety net fix on lineage.
[Magisk] first_damned:
Have you tried it? Which rom you using?
[Magisk] first_damned:
I've found a new shamiko version released on telegram. Maybe worth a try, not sure what the change log is.

Magisk alpha

配合使用，需要同步更新。（不更新也行，仅仅是没有状态显示。

t.me
[Magisk] westruk:
You can try this module https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/sensitive_props
[Magisk] first_damned:
@tyler19820201 maybe worth a try
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
At the moment everything does work but if the downgraded barclays app will be obsolete will give a try. But if u did try let me know about the result.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I use CrDroid 9.2 now.
[Magisk] first_damned:
I'm going to use downgraded version too and maybe a fix will be found
[Magisk] whatsisnametake2:
so still no solution for halifax and mbna? i've switched to using the website for the time being.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Halifax does work for me.
[Magisk] whatsisnametake2:
ah ok. what's your setup/what are you using to get it clear? is it the latest halifax version?
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Yes. latest. i was checking two days ago i mean...So far i just use magisk stable with safetynetfix & shamiko & LSPosedZygisk modules and Android NDK modules. No HMA no Adway no magiskdelta no magiskcanary. also i dont use twrp but ofox.
[Magisk] Spartacus500:
What message do you get after launching these two applications? I checked for myself and even without hiding these apps in Magisk denylist, they start normally without root message 🤔
[Magisk] whatsisnametake2:
the app allows me to enter my login info, then when I hit enter it says your device is jailbroken/ rooted, you can't continue. to add insult to injury it then completely freezes my phone at this point and I have to force restart.

interesting you're not having problems. are you using shamiko?
[Magisk] whatsisnametake2:
thanks for the info. I haven't used shamiko before, is that the one where you have to deactivate the deny list in magisk? so you use it instead of the deny list? what are the android ndk modules?
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Yes, u have to deactivate Enforce denylist otherwise shamiko cant get grant the blacklist mode. Android NDK is just a code implementer but certain modules are requiring thats why i have got it.