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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Oh yeah I forgot corporations are treated legally as humans stateside. Sorry .[emoji25]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Has your battery capacity dropped? There are 190 loads to me and AIDA64 shows me all 3753mAh at counter charge. It is ok.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] shagy38:
L997n7d to becauseww2
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Possible! But me and Note8 show me less. Mostly I had 3250mAh after a wireless charge all night.Normally i have 3190mAh on Note8.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I never used wireless charging on my note 8 or note 9. Note 8 showed 3310mAh after only two seasons on Accubattery pro.

I remember on the note 8 forum someone used a dongle that accurately measured the true value of the battery on the note 8. He mentioned the dongle actually showed less I think than what Accubattery did , I can't find that thread anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Look at my post in screen on time of Note8.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=75743680&postcount=466
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Wow, it was you! [emoji3] That was a good post.

Lol you mentioned about 4000mAh note 9 battery and that came true hehe.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
I wanted to show you that Note8 and Note9 are missing 150mAh, maybe even more. It's the normal production process, or software limitation, I can not know.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Have you still got that device to measure true mAh?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Theoretically yes, basically I do not know. I made a load from 1% to 100% and you saw how it came out.

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Stick metter Keweisi have amper,voltaj,time and mAh.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Did you plug the stick meter in the note 9?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Yesterday I charge my Note9 ,15% load on 100% and that's what AccuBattery shows me after resetting and something else stick meter. You see.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Normal load,no fast charging. So the remaining 15% means 600mAh and then it should charge 3400mAh, but it's something else.

Keweisi 3145mAh

AccuBattery 3262mAh
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
What does the stick meter show mAh for the Note 9?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
I do not quite understand the question. Keweisi is a universal measuring stick and on the left side display you have the voltage and amperage and on the right side, the charging time and how many mAh have entered. Insert between the charger and the cable.

Posting 15% -100% charge to Note9 with AccuBattery and Keweisi measurement.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I was wondering what the Keweisi measurements are for the Note 9?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Posting #29

LE: I have modified the text to understand :)

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77552864&postcount=29
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Do you know what this menu represents in the app Phone Info ? It says discharged 12 times.

[MENTION=616385]vnd[/MENTION]nguyan
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
To me 8 cycles.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Wonder why mine is more?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
I have the phone on August 24 with charges even on two days, many wireless from 40% to 100%. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I've had mind since August 22. Never gone below 40% battery, and charged it only a few times to 100% so not sure why our figures vary.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] vndnguyen:
Mine is 8.

It is full discharge cycle, it is not related to the 100% level.

If you charge your phone from 30% to 90%, and then use it from 90% to 40%, then charge it from 40% to 80%.

It will be considered as 1 discharge cycle: (90% - 30%) + (80% - 40%) = 100% = 1 cycle.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Where does it pull the information from? Because I think the exynos version users can check themselves in a hidden system file. Unsure about about snapdragon.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I let my note 9 go down to 15% for the first time today. When viewing the figures on the charging screen it cycles to a max of 3847mAh before going back down to 3495.5mAh.

Before it would cycle to 4105 mHa when on this screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
It is obvious that either the battery doesn't have the proper hardware or the software can't read it. When this is the case he's apps guess the capacity of the battery. Y'all are tripping over nothing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Anymore screen savers ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Pulling the charger out during charge and putting it back in now it cycles all up to the attached. I also set the design capacity of the battery to 5000mHa for test purposes on this app.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Nice! :cowboy::laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Albeit. Still this tho... didn't make a difference to the attached screenshot
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
That's the ability and on my phone if I immediately take the charger when the LED turns green. Same value as yours.If it leaves it for more than 30 min after it's loaded, the value increases to 3850mAh. Strange.:(
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
So another question. Is there something that I can use to check the true mAh of the note 9 battery?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
I dont know,my frend.I try with stick keweisi,with AccuBattery,you know.When with Note8,AccuBattery say exactly with fg_fullcapnow.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Thanks. The full_cap is for only exynos I think .

So to summarize, all the tools you are using are showing below 4000mAh battery on your note 9?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
It is a system file fg_fullcapnow,in sys / class / power supply / battery that shows you how it sees the battery system. On Notes8 I was 92% after one year. You can not read it on Note9. Yes it shows me values ​​well below 4000mAh.Last charge,and live is 96% but it decrease if charge with cable.With wireless normal is long time but rises slightly to 3830mAh.This is true situation.

When I charge the phone I do not leave it all night. It made the green light, I pulled it out of the socket. Maybe if I let him more, 1h in addition, the mAh value will go up too.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Whilst researching, I found another post on XDA but this time on the s9+ forum. Read the post by [MENTION=1572395]maik005[/MENTION] especially.

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s9-plus/how-to/battery-health-s9-crippled-battery-t3763640/page3
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
I know these files. I posted them on Note8 on XDA. Now these files are blocked by Samsung on Note9. Why?Must root to read.Say acces denied.?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I can't even get the cap nom since im a snapdragon user.

So my understanding is the figures we are seeing on Accubattery is normal? After reading that thread on the s9+ forums .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Semantics:
From the horses mouth, he suggests you run the phone til it dies then charge it to full. For what it's worth, I have always hovered between 40-80% and my battery was showing around 3700mah. I've been tethering a lot lately and it tops off the phone, its showing over 3800mah now. I've never done what the accubattery dude suggests, but I highly doubt Samsung lied about the battery size. The app states estimation.

https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...How-to-manually-benchmark-your-battery-health
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Posible!In Note8,the value displayed by AccuBattery was approximately equal to the value shown by the system through fg_fullcapnow.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Look my frend.I charge my phone from 35% to 100% and screens. fg_fullcapnow and fg_asoc ,acces denied.How long did I keep the cable in my phone to make screens,AccuBattery has added a few extra mAh but reads just like the charge_counter.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
To check he true capacity if a battery you have to have the proper fuel gauge chip. Doesn't have to be fuel gauge brand. If it doesn't have the ability to check mAh it will guesstimate it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Just thought I'd respond to you with an update regarding why our devices don't show near or true max battery capacity.

My wife received her note 9 2 days ago and hers only based on two charges is showing full capacity see attached screenshot.

For others that want to nag on about Accubattery Pro not being an accurate method to show capacity I get that but I have one thing to say, I'm debating with proof perhaps to show that some batteries are not as advertised on the Note 9. Two Note 9 identical models , using Accubattery. Even if Accubattery wasnt that accurate surely it would not be this inaccurate amongst same hardware specs in its displaying of values.

First screenshot wife's Note 9 second one mine.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Uses your wife to keep the phone longer in the socket after the phone is fully charged.?Or the first batch of phones has smaller batteries in quantity.

:) I have 95% with 3799mAh.I reset AccuBattery but :(
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I have some observations to write about after I get back home.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
So I checked her Accubattery history during the two days of her ownership. She uses only fast wireless charging and tops up a few times in the morning before work.

Funny thing is I turned on my fast charging option in the battery maintenance screen. And charged all the way to 100% ( I normally don't ). My health is 95% less than my post #12 on this thread lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
I have noticed since Note8 that if you charge the battery wireless normal the health of the battery is much better. Do not charge fast on the cable ,normally and usually when the green light comes off the phone immediately. At normal wireless charging, I do not pick up the phone immediately when the green LED lights up for a few minutes and grows up to 3940mAh. You gave me a xda link with the battery on the S9 and I installed from the users an application that shows you the counter of the exact meter. It's set from what I see at 3753mAh.Look:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
So no matter how much you leave the phone when it's loaded, it shows 3753mAh while the AccuBatery continues to charge. Now I do not know if there is a software limitation from Samsung or that's the real value of the manufacturing process.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
The issue is , mines snapdragon and yours is exynos model. Those menus or app that you showed from the S9 forum I don't think work on the snapdragon model. I think it is what it is, some units came with lower amperage batteries from new. Only other alternative is a device that can read the true mAh capacity via USB port maybe?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
I do not know what to say but I think Samsung batteries are low-cost batteries, as one colleague said, compared to Apple's. This is posting, informative.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77600109&postcount=74
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
They refer to Phone Info app and capacity. Which phone info app are they using as the one I use doesn't show capacity. Is it this one?

View attachment 4611881
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
No, it's not PhoneInfo. The Developer who created PhoneInfo has made a tool, another small application that reads those files. Download from the german site,but must be login.

[MENTION=2018502]vndnguyen[/MENTION] colleague can better explain how it is with the application.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Which is the website or URL?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Is in my post.You are not reading this?

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https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77600109&postcount=74
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I saw the image you posted but no link.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
In the above post you have a link to a german site.This:

https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/...te-9-akkuwerte-auslesen-ohne-root.886529.html
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Link doesn't work for me nevermind. I used ADB command.

adb shell dumpsys batterystats. It shows under capacity approx 3771mAh.

Edit . Not sure how accurate the figure is via the above ADB command. It's showing 3753 now for me and the wife's phone. I did CLS the command prompt and reconnect wife note 9 and ran the above ADB command.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
View attachment 4611923

This is the application. Download, unzip, install and start when the battery is charged 100% and the LED is green.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Link work for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] 0alfred0:
I have noticed the following:

If i only charge like 15% to 60% (when it is charging very fast) it displays very high numbers up to 4300mAh.

If I only top up 90-100% (when it is very slow) it only shows like 3500mAh.

Fast charging is confusing accubattery and results in inaccurate numbers depending on how you charge your phone. In the Mate 10 Pro forums there are several people reporting the same.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Try this .

View attachment 4611945
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Now at 78% battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
My phone isn't rooted.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
I have no root either.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Ok, thanks. The link copied and pasted it but still nothing. Try this ADB command..

adb shell dumpsys batteryproperties
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
I can not try this now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Later
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Yes. It's same as ADB command line . 3753 when charger is green.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Then there is a software limitation for both exynos and snapdragon or even a smaller real capacity.

If you have a root look this.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Yours is same as mine. The capacity. The apk shows me the same value as the adb command line I posted earlier. Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Here's the adb line, you can use "adb shell dumpsys batterystats" or " adb shell dumpsys batteryproperties"
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Ok,thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Well anyway we both have gotten to the bottom of this issue / query.

Yours and mine and my wife's Note 9 show 3753mAh via the APK or the ADB command line.

The value in Accubattery is completely rubbish. Since wife's shows over 4000mAh in Accubattery yet in the adb line command ( after fully charged and green LED) same figure as ours of 3753mAh.

Now the question is, why is it showing 3753mAh?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
I did not look into the installed program, "Aida64," but it looks at the battery section, counter charge without adb or tool test battery :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Nice!How charge your phone,40-80%,20-100%,fast or not,over night?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I'm not saying he's a liar, but I don't take anything as fact unless I see a screenshot using those apps we used to show capacity at full charge.

Also, really surprised some in-depth Youtubers haven't picked up on this. After all wasn't the 4000mAh battery one of it's selling points?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] mrlo:
3C Toolbox Pro Battery Manager is much more precise - it estimates 3997 mAh when charging from 30% to 100%. Accubattery estimates around 3800 mAh.

Every App uses different algorithms to calculate battery capacity, and this is only estimation.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Use the ADB command , that should put lack of accuracy out of the equation.

I used Aida64 on two Note 9 devices and ran the adb command and both values matched.

Show me the screenshots of the ADB command value for your battery capacity against them 3C pro app. Cheers.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Zanr Zij:
If I always keep battery between 30-90, AIDA64 + ADB can not read my capacity?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
It will read the current discharging capacity.

This thread is about capacity in mAh at full charge.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Zanr Zij:
I don't think capacity same with everyone. I saw number 3753 and same with me. But AccuBattery say 4k :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Use the ADB line method I posted further up. I believe this will also show your 3753mAh.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Zanr Zij:
Nothing strange! AIDA64 use that number, same as others so I think this method may not right :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] nunoovidigal:
89%!!!

Could anyone please tell me how serious is this??

I have my new Note 9 512GB for 3 or 4 days and since day one Accubattery is giving me 89% with 3572 mAh even when I do one 100% charge (flight mode, no touching on the phone).

Ohhh I'm scared cause I can't exchange it cause I bought it when I was abroad and the warranty is region specific. Is this really my battery defective or maybe some software glitch from accubattery?

I should also note that I'm not being able to get more than 3.5 hours of SOT. HELP!!! ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] michelino159:
Do not panic. Accubattery does not record real mAh on Note9. Install Aida64 and at battery section see charge counter which must be 3753mAh when the phone is charged 100%. When it falls below this value then it becomes interesting. There are no applications to measure correct battery situation only erroneous approximations. At me AccuBaterie looks 91% :)

For battery optimization, watch clips on youtube and close what does not use (gps, lte, wifi ..) automatic brightness ....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] darkbahamut:
I do wonder how much of the "missing" capacity is the fact that the phone underchargs the battery deliberately.

It's a 3.85v nominal cell so that means a 4.35v cut off voltage, but the phone actually stops charging at 4.28v to improve cycle life. That 70mv different will easily account for 5-7% so 3700-3800mAh sound about perfect for a fresh phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] stiffis:
I have the same issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] stiffis:
My phone charges up to 4.355V :o and still just 3600mah
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] darkbahamut:
The float voltage is 4.35v but the battery doesn't charge that high on a stock kernel. It's definitely configured at 4.28v in the source code. Mine reports 4.29v when full on the charger.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] DeVilio:
Heh, just read this topic and well... where to start... :D

To begin with: you just cant discharge your battery to 0%, it is not possible. Just not!! When phone shows 0% and turns off it meand that battery has voltage il some still safe level. There is some electronics build in accu to keeps it safe. So - it is safe to discharge it to 0% but not for storage!Ĩf you want to store your turned off phone somewhere - safe is about 70% charged phone.

Next - dont trust any app for battery capasity. Buy that usb meter that can shows you how much mAh phone takes. And you must remember that if accu have 4000mAh it should take more because of charging is not perfect 1:1 ratio and you will lose some mAh during charge. So for example if you discharge Note9 to 0% till it will shut down just connect it to charger, some safe charger, 5V 2A without quick charge and keep phone shuts down. Then after charge to 100% you will have precise amount of mAh that get in your battery. Take about 5% from it and you will have your accu capasity. Sorry for my english, this is not my native language and explaining this rather dificult therms in english is difficult for me :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] sullytrny:
Just charge it like 25% - 85%, never full up never full down and you should get 3k to 5k charge's
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Sorry couldn't help myself LOL at your post. Respectfully, this has been discussed and Michelino also used a dongle in one thread post in the past.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] vash2pid:
Got 3753 on Aida64 aswell.

Damn... now what...

Will try the other apps and the adb later but damn...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] sputnik767:
If other people haven't made this clear, stop using apps for battery capacity. It's an estimated calculation, and a very rough one at that. And if you do decide on using accubattery, realize that it's battery capacity is inaccurate, and the app even tells you this.

Look, you are using your phone, what's your real world battery drain? Are you getting a full day's worth? Are you getting several hours of screen time per day and still have a reasonable battery reserve? If your real world usage is fine, who gives a damn about what some app tells you? And if your real world usage is not fine, why is the first thing you all think of is battery capacity? Perhaps it's your usage, your apps, your signal strength, or a multitude of other factors? If you are filling up your car frequently, do you check to see if your gas tank is smaller than advertised? Or do you balme your driving style, traffic, etc?

Your phone's battery is about 4000 mAh. Period. No, it's not exactly that, but it pretty close. Regardless of what some app tells you. And all this nonsense about discharging and recharging does nothing but fools the app's algorithm.

The battery life on my old Galaxy S7 edge wend down the toilet after about 2 years. I used accubattery and got about 50% capacity. I replaced my battery (was a struggle), only to find that accubattery reported the exact same capacity on a good, new battery. And not some Chinese knockoff either. And my battery life stayed the same. I replaced a perfectly good battery, and that was after 2 years of use. And I didn't do any of that charging 25-80% stupidity either.

TLDR: stop using apps. They are less than worthless. If your battery life is poor, look into what's causing it from the software end. And if you're happy with the battery life, don't you have better things to do than perseverate on it?

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OH noes, your estimated battery capacity is 6% lower. What a horrible thing to happen. Damn... now what... (/sarcasm). Seriously, 6%. On a rough estimate based on some algorithm. Let me make this clear. The apps do not actually measure your battery capacity. They estimate it based on charging, discharging, and usage profiles. My suggestion would be to go on with your life.