[Xiaomi Poco F1 Guides, News, & Discussion] pfavayi:
"It's good that things work for you. For most of the guys things don't work like that. "

And by most guys you mean those guys that use DFE like you.

you can't expect things to work when you start by flashing suspicious files into a perfectly working system.

And anyone who doesn't use DFE has their things working. The problem starts when you use DFE.

"TWRP official recovery says it clearly that if you flash it over stock kernel, you won't be able to "Make changes to the system" "

Why don't you give us this fake link so we can read it ourselves.... Because that link is either fake or you are lying...

I say this because official TWRP is working and I'm using it right now and there's nothing like what you are saying.

I will upload a picture of my phone booted into official TWRP.

"which means you won't be able to flash items."

I am flashing items everyday....

I think your main problem is differentiating between an official twrp that he has been certified and has undergone rigorous testing --- and any TWRP (unofficial) that anyone in the street can make.

If you wake up today and make your own the, it would be unofficial - no guarantees.

They are many unofficial TWRPs.

There is one and only one official TWRP

Your unofficial twrp has to undergo a lot of testing and adherence to approved protocol etc for it to be declared official.

" They might have released a new version that support DFE "

If you talk about DFE this way, then you don't know what DFE is. You cant talk of TWRP, official or unofficial, supporting DFE. It means you don't know what DFE is.

And not "might" - be 100% sure..

"which I'm unaware of, but TWRP was officially released to work only on encrypted storage."

Provide links to all this.... Not just your claim...

and besides for people who work with official twrp like me , no DFE etc - our encrypted phone does not lack anything compared to your unencrypted phone. In fact it has an advantage because it is encypted and secure (like every other phone in the world) , why yours is unencrypted and insecure.

"If dirty flashing rom from 2 different developers work for you then it's great."

If you read and understand what installing an application means to the Android framework then you'd understand why a dirty flash can work and when it works.

I know when a dirty flash will work and I know when it will not work. I've said this before in this forum. looks like you didn't read that post.

" What I've encountered many times on previous Android phones that dirty flashing creates problem with framework and some apps might force close or encounter error while launching."

Answered above...

"I'm talking about stock ROM that one won't be able to get "INCREMENTAL OTAs" when bootloader is unlocked. Clearly if you would have tried stock global beta, you might have known."

Getting OTA depends on the boot.img

Installing them depends on the bootloader.

An unlocked bootloader means you can't install unsigned (by the OEM) zip and img files.

Speak not if you understandeth not.

"By "recover stock recovery" I mean that if one is flashing a "FASTBOOT ROM" then it will reset your recovery to stock unless you change the path of recovery."

So ?

And you meant all this just by saying "recover stock recovery"? you must have worked many years as a secretary because your shorthand is amazing!!

By the way, We are already assuming you are on stock ROM.

All the talk here is about stock ROM and stock recovery.

"And yes, I do understand English and I do understand the difference between "Clean flash" and "Clean flash and lock bootloader"."

Good for you ...

I don't need to clean flash and I don't need DFE and I use official TWRP and I don't lose my data....

The bottom line is this....

I use official things and don't do anything extra and my phone works and I don't lose data.

for you to achieve the same thing you have to use unofficial things, instal suspicious DFE so that your phone works and you don't lose data.

So why don't you new users start with my clean method and if it doesn't work then they can use your "dirty" method ?

Or better still, tell them the two methods and let them decide.

I wrote a very good article on DFE and encryption a day or two ago. It would be very helpful for someone to read it first.

"PS:- were you drunk while reading/typing the comment?

PPS:- no offence"

I just responded above so you can see how drunk I am !!!

(A drunk person will actually think he's the only one sober and everybody else is drunk!!!!)