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[Magisk] rafsteam:
What is interesting, I am using Lloyds Banking app on unrooted phone - just with unlocked bootloader. Pixel Experience ROM. It says that the phone is rooted and does not allow me to log-in. Any advice?
[Magisk] jhobc:
In my opinion you have two choices:

1 - Use Magisk to spoof the unlocked bootloader state and SafetyNet

Or

2 - Crack the check method of app (creating a Custom Patch with Luck Patcher for example) - but you will need root to do that so I stick with the first option

Otherwise at the moment I don't know any other possibilities to bypass that
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
For me does not work with OP3T. I have latest canary magisk with package renamed and magisk hide enabled (SantanderUK thicked)+ RiruCore23.9 + rirushare.zip flashed.

But it detects root.

where can i manage isolated processes? This

(uk.co.santander.santanderUK and uk.co.santander.santanderUK : oa.UB) processes i can not find on magisk and riru and the extra module did not install any new app or feature to controll this processes...Do i have to install something more? Sorage Isolation app.
[Magisk] jhobc:
See the attached SS.

Select SantanderUK app and these options should appear

If possible please share your Magisk log right after opening the SantanderUK app.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Holly ****.

It looks like working!! Thank you. After 9 months waiting working again in rooted phone.

Will send u the log later on.

Thanks again. (y):giggle:👌
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Thanks again. (y):giggle:👌

Logs

magisk_log_2021-03-11T12_18_40Z.log · paste.gg

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[Magisk] jhobc:
It's working fine. Enjoy your root freedom!
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I am worrying about probably this method also will be revealed by Santander soon... :unsure: :rolleyes:
[Magisk] jhobc:
This always can happen since the cat and mouse game never ends.
[Magisk] rafsteam:
SafetyNet is working as it should. All the Google Pay/other banking apps are working. It is just the Lloyds Banking app that says that the root is detected. Tried to install Magisk and even Riru (as per Santander method) - not helping. It seems like there's only one process in MagiskHide even after installing the Rirur module

Could anyone advise?
[Magisk] jhobc:
This app don't use Isolated Process exploit to detect Magisk, they're doind this in another way .. maybe it's scanning for files in your Internal Storage for traces of Magisk/root or even for some app related with that (signature, name etc)

You can try to use Island app:

Island - Apps on Google Play

Discover the secret Island inside Android, release its mysterious power!

play.google.com

Or

Storage Isolation:

Storage Isolation - Apps on Google Play

Control the storage usage for each app, keep the storage clean and organized.

play.google.com

On my tests without Magisk Hide enabled for the app I can get to the login screen with no message about root detection. Since I'm not a customer can't get any further than that.
[Magisk] josehdx:
Would you mind to try the mexican version of santander? Even with the canary version and the riru core + rirushare. But my app stills detects titanium :(
[Magisk] rafsteam:
Yes, the problems start when you log-in - not before. It didn't work even without root. Just custom rom (Pixel Experience) - could it be looking for unlocked bootloader or checking SELinux? But Magisk would hide it...
[Magisk] jhobc:
If you mean the "SuperMovil" app I can open it normally here but with Magisk Hide.

I installed Titanium and he started to FC (with Magisk Hide enabled), so I revoked the permission of "Get info about installed apps" at app settings and everything went fine with Titanium installed. (Like I said on a earlier post the way to do that can differ from device to device)

I use a Mi 9T Pro + MIUI.EU 12.5 - A11

The app don't use the Isolated Process exploit to detect root.
[Magisk] jhobc:
Magisk will hide these props pretty fine, try the mentioned apps earlier, if possible revoke the "Get info about installed apps" at app settings, disable Ad blockers .. like Adway and etc.

Without a way to trigger that on my device I can no further do tests to tell you possible advices. Sorry

If possible please share a SS from the msg about root detection.
[Magisk] rafsteam:
Tried revoking all the permissions + Island & Storage Isolation apps. Also with Adaway removed/with some hosts in it from one of the previous posts. Not working unfortunately...
[Magisk] josehdx:
Can you clarify where did u revoke the permission? I have supermovile as well :)

Edit: i didn't see the last part of your comment..i assume i can not do it on a red magic 5s.... I can only deny access to storage but it doesn't help
[Magisk] jhobc:
On my device the option is avaible at Settings\Apps\SuperMovil\Permissions

Edit:

Maybe the 3C Toolbox app can help you with that:

3C All-in-One Toolbox - Apps on Google Play

The ENTIRE 3C collection in just one package! *

play.google.com
[Magisk] josehdx:
I think there is something with my ROM. It does not allow me to change the permission to block on the bottom settings. Xposed installed and module active. Should i move this 3C tool as privileged app? Thanks
[Magisk] jhobc:
This app will not be able to revoke the mentioned permission earlier. Sorry

Maybe XPrivacy can do that
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I have two OP3T phone. One with A10 and one with A11 custom ROMs. The following apps has been tested with magisk latest canary+Rirucore+ riru module on A10:

Lloyds SantanderUK Natwest Halifax Barclays HSBC UK Paypal VodafoneApp(nonUK). ALL working!! On A11 only SantanderUK and Vodafone has been tested succesfully the rest should work also but have no time test it all. On A10 Lloyds works with magisk stable you do not even need canary+Rirucore, Riru module also does not required. Also Lloyds does not care about TWRP folder and TitaniumBackup. SantanderUK only works if TitanuimBackup removed and TWRP folder deleted.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Also Adaway and Island and all this kind of things are unneccesary as it works without them. Everything has been tested without them and all good.
[Magisk] iankelly2001:
This method finally worked for me, using LineageOS 18.1 (Android 11) for Samsung Galaxy S7 G930F but only after uninstalling Titanium Backup. If Titanium is installed, the Santander app simply says it's detected root and shuts down (I also took the precaution to rename the TWRP folder in Internal Storage, which I also know can trigger root detection in the app). Thanks @jhobc for posting this method.

So, I'd still like to use Titanium Backup on my phone. Is there anyway to reinstall it, without it upsetting the Santander app again? By the way, I couldn't find a permission for "get info about installed apps" anywhere within the app settings for the Santander app.
[Magisk] petbede:
Oh My Days! Thanks to this I am able to get Santander App working again. @jhobc can't thank you enough but thank you thank you thank you so very highly much.

Hoping my Google Pay App not broken. Will have to check it today when I'm out

Never knew TWRP is trouble with Santander App, had to rename the TWRP Folder in Internal Storage and Santander App now works. @iankelly2001 thank you thank you thank you so very highly much.

Will have to find alternative for Titanium Backup for now

EDIT UPDATE: Just reinstalled Titanium Backup App and all is working, not sure if Titanium Backup App had any issue whatsoever with Santander App but all working good here.

I have always use and continue to use different Name Folder for Titanium Backup if that helps.

Now got me working Santander App and Titanium Backup App working... Splendid.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I can confirm that after updating SantanderUK from 4.14 to 4.15 still working great. However after update i was just reboot my phone straight and before launching the updated app just need to re-set the app on magisk hide as the Isolated process link will change. Just like in previous post (#328) has been mentioned.

Thank you again for jhobc for post #328

(y) 👌
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
How is santander working for you after reinstall Titanuim? After reinstall did you rename all titanium related folders? I have not try yet as i was looking for Titanium alternative rather than.
[Magisk] petbede:
For years I have always use Customize Name for Titanium Backup Folder. Didn't do anything fancy, I just follow the guide, Santander working then my curiosity kicked in that I had to reinstalled Titanium Backup and everything working, went on further to reboot my phone and all still working
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Yeah similar here: curiosity kicked and have found & try a titanium alternative and works great so at the moment i do not need Titanium. Anyway is good to know still it works.
[Magisk] petbede:
What the alternative you using? Won't be a bad idea to have a backup of alternative, just in case
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I would send PM as it is offtopic
[Magisk] petbede:
Good good. Thanks
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I think SantanderUK could be easily sued for breaking GDPR.

Scanning for Titanium and TWRP... :rolleyes: :mad::LOL::rolleyes:
[Magisk] petbede:
EDIT UPDATE: Just Paid with Google Pay and it successful.

Now got everything working.... Santander App, Titanium Backup,

Yep! But no one have time to sue them if they not gonna get money from them.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Yeah, GPay works me as well. Also my GarminPay works with Santander however i have no got issue with it before.
[Magisk] petbede:
Good good good
[Magisk] petbede:
Just Updated Santander App to 4.15 as well and again my curiosity kicked in again.

After updated I open the Santander App straight up and ofcourse back to issues again, open the Magisk App and saw that the Santander App uk.co.santander.santanderUK : oa.UB is now uk.co.santander.santanderUK : zd.Wo and until, I tick it back and Santander App back and running after going through the Santander App Setup.

All good good.. Titanium Back App, Santander App and Google Pay.

Thanks @jhobc

EDIT UPDATE:

Just want to confirm on my end that Titanium Backup have nothing to do with anything. Just updated my Mi MIX 2S running LOS 17.1 and everything working just as the same with my Mi 10 Pro 5G running MIUI 12.5 Beta
[Magisk] sam00561:
has anyones santander stopped working today. I have the Riru core etc modules installed and was working untill yesterday but now detected root again.
[Magisk] jhobc:
@sam00561

Do you re-enabled Magisk Hide for the new Process Isolated name?

Or version 4.15.0 the name is "uk.co.santander.santanderUK : zd.Wo"

Remember!

The process isolated name will change after every app update so will have to enable Magisk Hide for the new one.

I installed SantanderUK and I can open the app pretty fine. No change on the root detection methods for now.
[Magisk] sam00561:
Ok i got it working again i had lost root. something strange is happening with magisk canary. If i install a module and then reboot sometimes not always iam losing root and need to patch the boot.img again it is a bit of a pain.
[Magisk] samftw24:
Anyone having issues with Lloyds loading? was working fine until 2 days ago
[Magisk] sam00561:
I just installed Lloyds hid in manager and it opens. Can't check any further because i don't have an account with Lloyds.
[Magisk] samftw24:
Yeah the problem appears once you try signing into an account, it pops up with the rooted / jailbroken error
[Magisk] sam00561:
Ah can't help there then im sure you can't give those details.
[Magisk] dnick88:
Something has definitely changed in the last week, 2 of my phones lost access to banking apps.

Both different phones

Lenovo z6 pro / revenge os a11 / Magisk canary installed

Xiaomi Mi Note 8 pro / PE+ a11 / NO Magisk installed can't access Halifax or NatWest apps on either.

Must be a new security check finding root on login
[Magisk] sam00561:
my halifax is detecting root i just checked and not working no more
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I can confirm, for me does not work the updated halifax and lloyds also on OP3T A10 and A11 also tried...But Santander still works...

I was trying to reinstall them still does not work. The registration method has been changed, also the GUI of both Halifax and Lloyds.

Now i can wait again ages to fix this... 😩 :mad:
[Magisk] petbede:
All hope not lost for Halifax.

Tried opening it as well and it detected root, although it has been working with no issues.

Anyways, here is what I did to get it working on my Mi 10 Pro running Xiaomi EU 12.5 Beta...

I wiped the data and cache for the Halifax.

Went to the permissions Setting and deny "Access And Save Items To Storage" and "Get Info About Installed App"

Opened the Halifax app and went through with signing in my details and it started working again.

Now still have my Santander app and Halifax app working as normal again.

Don't have Lloyds Account to check.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
No it does not work the latest update. As Lloyds and Halifax literally has got the same root detection method therefore both has been updated and both of them detecting root... :mad:
[Magisk] petbede:
What version is your Halifax?
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Thanks. Will have a look...
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Latest... 68.00 (6800)
[Magisk] petbede:
Same as mine and it is working👍🏾
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I could not find this permissions Setting and deny "Access And Save Items To Storage" and "Get Info About Installed App" things...

However i do not have any permission granted for any of my banking app as default...
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Once i give my username and password and continue problems occured...

Are u using stock os or custom ROM?
[Magisk] shamsul007:
Any advice for getting the vanquis banking app working?
[Magisk] Modzmarvin:
Wooo

Legend! Only took 2 years of a rooted phone to finally get this to work! Top job! Confused as to how the ad clock made a difference, but couldn't care less lol. 10/10!

---------- Post added at 08:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:41 PM ----------

Oddly metro banking was happy to let me use it with root hehe
[Magisk] Modzmarvin:
I take it back. Worked for a day and woke up this morning to getting logged out for lloyds for being rooted :( . only worked for a few hours

Also metro app kicked me off last night but since i did magisk hide, its not detected root so that's all good it seems.
[Magisk] kf06925:
I had something similar recently after reinstalling Magisk 17.1. Despite of using systemless Adaway and Magisk Hide the Lloyds app detected my phone as rooted.

Therefore, I followed the instructions again (clearing all Lloyds data, uninstall, reboot, reinstall + adding to Magisk Hide).

The part which I hadn't done last time was hiding Magisk Manager itself (Settings - > General - > Hide Magisk Manager). After adding that step the most recent Lloyds version from Oct. 8th was working again.

If you are on 17.1, could you perhaps see if Magisk Manager is hidden for you or not? If it's hidden, the setting should show a restore option. Otherwise, I'd retry it with this extra step.

Good luck,
[Magisk] Modzmarvin:
For some strange reason i dont actually get magisk show up in the list of apps in the magisk hide section :(

On 15.1
[Magisk] Didgeridoohan:
That's not strange at all... Putting the Magisk Manager on the Hide list would break things quite badly.

What he's talking about is the option in the Manager settings to repackage it with a random package name.
[Magisk] Modzmarvin:
Ah that, yea did that one when i first installed it cause I've got other apps that freak out when its installed haha. ill probs just give the process another go. maybe was just a one of fail!
[Magisk] kf06925:
I'm not sure if 15.1 already had the option, but yes, the hiding is done by random package replacement and controlled by the settings general section as mentioned earlier.

If you can't see the option in 15.1 then I'd try upgrading to 17.1 as latest stable version.
[Magisk] andy_1983:
Using Magisk 18.0/stock Android 9.0 on my Pixel 1, the latest version of the Halifax app (43.02) and following all the instructions in the first post, I get the error 'Sorry, you can't use this app as we've detected that your device has been jailbroken/rooted' after attempting to sign in on the app. I also noticed SafetyNet checks fail after this error and that the only way to get them to pass is to set Magisk to Core Only Mode even though the only module I have running is the Systemless Hosts one. Do Halifax operate some kind of blacklist for rooted devices and is there any way around this? The previous version of the app was working but I didn't back up the APK in order to roll back.

EDIT: Never mind, installed MagiskHide Props Config, rebooted, cleared Halifax app storage and all works fine now.
[Magisk] iwantademo123:
Vanquis Fix

With the Adaway host file, and magisk hide enabled on vanquis, I was able to get vanquis to open by going to magisk manager settings > Hide Magisk Manager. Try this option. I didn't need to reboot after enabling hide magisk manager, but you may want to just in case.
[Magisk] lolmus12:
Was there anything else you did for vanquis? I have done the adaway file , hidden the app , and selected that option to hide magisk manager with several reboots and not working, always brings that annoying root link up
[Magisk] xjboss:
thanks it works
[Magisk] iwantademo123:
Vanquis fix troubleshooting

Does your device pass safetynet? Maybe it's my extra AdAway entries that helps run vanquis.

For Vanquis to work on my device, :

I am running a stock rom (OnePlus 5 Android PIE Beta) with magisk.

Safetynet fully passes.

Adaway hosts enabled with the custom entries in this thread, but with more entries for disabling root detection in banking apps.

Magisk hide enabled for vanquis

Hide magisk enabled to repackage magisk and hide it from vanquis [ Magisk manager settings > Hide Magisk Manager ]

Systemless hosts is enabled in magisk settings so adaway doesnt touch the system folder

Running Magisk 18.0 on the BETA update channel

Vanquis is working fine in these conditions for me.

Here is an screenshot of my hosts:

[IMG="Hosts"]https://i.imgur.com/qNa2RKv.jpg[/IMG]

Try adding these extra entries to the systemless hosts in AdAway.
[Magisk] lolmus12:
Thanks for the quick response, tried it with new hosts but didn't work, i am running android 8 with a cubot x18 i have also got magisk 18

how did you install adaway systemlessly because i am not sure mine is systemless...
[Magisk] iwantademo123:
Firstly, restore the original hosts if you feel yours wasn't installed systemlessly.

Then, In magisk manager, goto settings and under "magisk hide" (which should be enabled)

Tap on "systemless hosts". This will add a module to your module lists called Systemless Hosts.

Reboot to enable the systemless hosts module which should have appeared after enabling this setting. (Check your module list to make sure "systemless hosts" is there).

After rebooting, open magisk manager, and confirm that the systemless hosts module is enabled/active.

Now, open AdAway (version 3.3) and goto your lists

Add all the entries in my above post to the blacklist, and then go back. Tap "Download Files And Apply Ad Blocking". After applied, reboot the device. Now the hosts should be set systemlessly due to the magisk module that was previously applied. One way to tell whether it was correctly done is to then disable the systemless hosts module in magisk, reboot, and check for an empty hosts file. If the hosts is empty when the module isn't active, and full of the entries when the module is active, this means it is running systemlessly.
[Magisk] marshedpotato:
Hi, this worked perfectly for me. thank you very much
[Magisk] TheATHEiST:
Partially true. You can use app but it won't allow you to use the fingerprint login.
[Magisk] shamsul007:
Can comfirm these steps worked perfectly. Vanquis was the only banking app giving me issues and its finally solved!

although it wont let me use fingerprint authentication for some reason.

Many thanks!
[Magisk] CAMERON786:
Help needed

Note 8 (Note 9+ Rom)

Magisk v17.2

Passes all saftynet checks

Adaway work

Followed all instructions and it works well and i can log in and use the app, But when i switch connections from Wifi to Mobile data open the app it detects root and logs me out. Connect back to Wifi, clear Lloyds bank cache and data. Adaway download/apply setting even tho it states Enabled after a re boot it all works again and i can log in and use Lloyds app untill i change my data connection.

Need help. Am i doing somthing wrong or is they somthing i can do to fix the problem im having. Thanks im new here. ?
[Magisk] anotherxdauser:
I've just had a lengthy call with them about it. Below is the jist but if you call them, ask them to recite the log they have on their screen and copy it here. I didn't, but wish I did so the devs know what the app looks for.

So... going back to a previous post about a banking app, it seems it knows about Magisk Hide being able to hide root.

Although the person I spoke to said having developer mode turned on is like having my phone "jailbroken".

They said something about the SDK being wrong and then said that the app has detected a hide root application. Tut.

Tried hiding the fact I have magisk installed too but that made no difference.

Haven't tried the solution in the first post as yet but will give it a go.

Wanted to get this info here just for note keeping.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Have u got Riru Enhanced mode for Storage Isolation v23.8 module installed? For me does not only Riru core and Enhanced mode for Magisk hide only... :rolleyes:
[Magisk] petbede:
Yeah! I got that error and click on retry about two or three times and it went through successfully at the end.

I am using Xaiomi.EU ROM
[Magisk] petbede:
Read here is where I start it all to get my Santander App working and also using Titanium Backup and Google Pay with no issues

https://xdaforums.com/t/how-to-bypass-lloyds-and-santander-root-detection.3837206/post-84654675

https://xdaforums.com/t/how-to-bypass-lloyds-and-santander-root-detection.3837206/post-84662007
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Yeah i know this things you have mentioned in earlier posts. I went through them. However so far from my 6 banking apps only four working fine. Natwest Santander HSBC Barclays. But Halifax and Lloyds still detects root. It is weird.
[Magisk] dnick88:
Hi

So I've tried all the above and don't know if I'm missing something but still not working for me.

Using Magisk canary

Got Magisk hide with everything added

Renamed Magisk package

Safety net is good

Magiskhide props, riru, riru enhanced for magiskhide, riru for advanced storage all installed

Systemless host installed

Storage isolation app installed

I close Halifax, clear data, tried enabling storage on and off in storage isolation app.

None work, couldn't find the options: "Access And Save Items To Storage" and "Get Info About Installed App"
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Yeah same to me also. :(
[Magisk] sam00561:
Acess and save items to storage and get info about installed app is only on Miui. If you are on custom rom those options are not there. Yesterday i switched to custom rom and santander and halifax started detecting root here also and i have tried all of the above like yourself.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I am on custom ROM also. OP3T. But Santander works well. No Riru enhanced mode for storage isolation at all. Only Riru core and enhanced mode for magisk hide.

However even if i try storage isolation does not work lloyds and halifax. Santander ok
[Magisk] sam00561:
Do you have any particular settings for Santander to work I tried everything. I have the 2 Riru modules magisk hidden and twrp folder is renamed so what gives I wonder.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
Anybody has got older version of lloyds and or halufax apk? something like 66 67 65. i want try an older version.
[Magisk] sam00561:
Its quite unlikely older banking apps will work they usually detect and you need to update before they will even run.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
I did everything regarding post #328. Read it back. Should work. However note this method explained at post #328 only can apply for SantanderUK. For lloyds and halifax does not work anymore as lloyds and halifax updated the app like two days ago. Before was working with the previous versions.
[Magisk] tyler19820201:
yeah just for curiosity...