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[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dante_nfs:
going to install hydrogen os beta 6 which claims the touch latency is resolved. will notify about the results.

edit 1: ok i've tested h2os beta 6 in first minutes, i have to say latency is like beta 2 or 3!!! nothing improved !! the latency in oos official pie is much better in my eyes. i don't know which fix they are referring to in changelog!! even after factory reset it's the same as beta 3 or 2 !

edit 2: if you want usable latency stay with official pie! i see no improvements in terms if latency in h2os beta 6 compared to other betas before.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] deezid:
Damn, thanks for letting us know.

Beta 3 of OOS Pie had the recents fixed but latency issues.

Final has latency fixed but recents are messed up lol...

Guess we have to wait for the next final version for both issues to be fixed then.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dante_nfs:
the point is even the oos official pie is not that good either it's just usable. but i can tell clearly that there is something wrong in betas, and it's weird! :(

for now i'm going to stay on official till next beta just because of latency(maybe i tried oos beta 4 to see if it's any different than h2os beta 6)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] snippem:
Been following this tread and the official thread for quite some time.

Installed the beta build after a while the stable 9 and now I am back on the beta pie.

I do not see any difference in response lag or latency with touch.

It's not that I do not believe there is a problem and that the touch latency can be improved.

Why I react is that I am having trouble the way you respond. I know you give your opinion but saying that it all the other builds are not usable :silly:

Second beta 4 is not released so installing h2os and then saying the problem that you experience is not fixed isn't fair.

Third and the last thing we know you are the first that complained about the touch latency.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dante_nfs:
haha nice one with the third :D :)

as i said before it's an officially confirmed problem from oneplus(from OP bughunters to saying it in the beta 6 changelog!), so its there. many people didn't say anything about it and after me and some other people gone vocal about it they started to confirm it too. so if it's me that tests and speaks about this problem most of the time it's not about just me having it, but many other people who even send me pm about it have it, they are just not that active and just follow the threads to see what happens with problems and updates and many times confirm when other people say something about a bug or problem.

as i said in my last post, i will try the oos next beta, the problem is hydrogen thread is not about this kind of stuff and here we have funk wizard who is in contact with oneplus directly so he can inform them much better than us. of course i shouldn't post something about h2os in oos beta thread ;)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] BossNexusS:
Will we be able to go from stable pie to beta 4 when it comes out without wiping anything?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] -DarkKnight-:
whats wrong with the recents?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] deezid:
This...
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] mhajii210:
This reminds me of the Essential phone where people were claiming that others must have a defective device since they don't have any touch scrolling jittering. I personally am very sensitive and do notice the touch latency. It was horrible on the Android 9 beta builds, and it's tolerable on Android 9 Stable. It's just one of those things that bothers some people and not others. At this point, I'm VERY happy with the touch latency on Android 9 Stable since it's good enough for me. Of course some more improvement couldn't hurt. I personally appreciate [MENTION=5836840]dante_nfs[/MENTION] being outspoken about it ?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheFrozen4:
Sorry, what is wrong in the picture? Only thing I can think of is that the screen is too far right, but I can't reproduce that at all on my OB3 so that is not for everyone.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] deezid:
Doesn't happen on beta 3 anymore
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheFrozen4:
Don't defend yourself so much ... not needed. ;)

Obviously it's not that obvious to a lot of other people like myself. Any chance you can create a short video clip to show what you mean? Not saying I don't believe you, just that I like to understand what you experience so I know what to look for.

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Oh wait I messed up. You are right that's what you just said. Woops.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] xxBrun0xx:
I think it still happens sometimes if you're using the new gestures on P with a custom launcher. If you try swiping right to switch to last app (again, only with a custom launcher), things get glitchy. That might be why see people have issues and others don't.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Subhojit:
Downloaded the file but doesnt install.

Tried on system local upgrade first and then via twrp and it failed with this error.

Any idea?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] istperson:
I'm curious , what's your actual complaint here?

I believe that customer support will never advise you to download the rollback package and install it, when the fact you are asking about it proves, you're better off with a service visit.

Also read the fine print. Switching to Beta retains data, but switching back to Official always goes with complete wipe. Just look at all the people having obscure malfunctions, including alarms not sounding, because they have mixed all kind of betas for a long time.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] meistr91:
Sorry but whats is wrong in stable pie with recents? Blanks apps? I have noticed that is happening only with oneplus gestures on. When im using google "pill" nav not a single app is blank in recents.

Plus with oneplus gestures there is "workaround" if you at least once open recents menu while you are in any kind of app it will not be blank in recents, but if you just swipe for home, app will be blank until you do swipe into recents.

Really why stable is not good except in not perfect latency?

Battery life is insanely good! Not a single app crashed, no fclosings (cuz on betas chrome randomly was chrashing and some other apps). Every function work. Smooth.

Sometimes, really sometimws it some swipes or touches lag for a bit, but i have noticed that happening after long time being in deep sleep.

Battery:

More then 48 hours of last charge..

I dont play games, but listening music on spotify with bluetooth headphones, browsing, chatting, camera.

Buuuut im on elementalX kernel.

But even without a kernel i have noticed rhat battery life was improved since beta 3.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
Regarding the guy you quoted: he just should stay on stock and don't mod, go to beta or anything besides install apps from play store.

I only find one issue here.. It is posible to go from beta 3 to stable with just a dirty flash, I have done it.. Everything works without any problems at all..

People having problems are the ones downgrading dirty and then upgrading dirty again...now THAT will leave you with all kind of fu¢kups.

Like I mentioned before I dirty flashed

5.1.9 to 5.1.11

5.1.11 to beta 1

Beta 1 to beta 2

Beta 2 to beta 3

Beta 3 to stable pie

Issues i had ever om this device : 0 <--
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] istperson:
But that's something you and me know, and we can discuss on forums like XDA. But no customer support will ever suggest you should do something like this.

If you take care, it will work. But there is a reason that the recommended way to return from the beta to the stock is to wipe your phone. I didn't, of course, but then I won't complain if some app force closes. or something like that.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
You are absolutely correct. Customer service will only recomend something they know will work for 100%.

If we run into issues, we know we have to fix it our selves :)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Here's a chance for you to win a OnePlus 6T and get it before anyone else ;)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] joakimbo:
About the touch latency and performance/battery. I really can't determine what and when it happens, but some days my battery is total ****, like today, I get hiccups, I'm on 1,5hrs SOT after 8 hours and now down 100% -> 50%. The touch latency is also bad.

Yesterday everything was smooth, no hiccups, good battery, almost no touch latency. This is with the exact same routine every day.

The days I get the problems, android system is on top in battery drain. Something weird going on.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] mareki81:
Open Beta 4 is out
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] LazerH:
Changelog
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
I can confirm Beta 4 is now being pushed ;)

Thread will be updated momentarily :good:

* Touch Latency & Standby should be much better now :good:

Download Link:

Official

MD5 : 984b0b2e3857a3b80a234010b4316ca3
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] habylab:
Can anyone explain the UI call changes? And if touch latency feels better?

May test if improved.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] RagingHarry:
Also available on Oxygen updater now
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Thread updated with Beta 4 Change-log and Download link ;)

Most regions should get an OTA prompt shortly
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vuska:
if latency really fixed... i will move from stable to OOB..

always with OOB from 3T time..
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Yes its much better now :good:
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jornwitt:
Google Pay working now ??
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] habylab:
Same here, I was as well, as they started doing less stable updates and more OB updates. Just need a reliable developer to push kernel updates.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dex2grigg:
Much better touch!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
Touch latency better that 3,worse than stable pie
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] fulltank:
Ok I get it ... Thanks .

Then - for the ROM developers I dont think its a rocket science to build safe roll back when stable version is released.

And customer support to advice me to follow some thing as plain as this...

Anyway I will stay in the beta path as its fine so far and I got Beta 4 today ....
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] habylab:
Worse than Stable Pie? It's horrendous on Stable at the moment, surely the same as OB3?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
I didn't have delay on stable.

Ob3 was awful. This is close to my experience of stock pie.. But just not there. How some have issues and some not.. I really don't know man.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] thugslug:
OB4 seems just fine so far.

I've gone back to stock. I like to try stock for a few days before I go adding anything.

Everything I've tried works so far.

I had great power usage on OB3, and it will be interesting to see if it's got even better.

Edit.. Had problem on the earlier betas where WiFi hotspot and USB tethering didn't work. They allowed connection but no pass through to internet. Solved that with a fix kindly provided by [MENTION=3806315]jbm76[/MENTION] after his diligent research.

No such problem in OB4. So far.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] RagingHarry:
Anyone tried updating via twrp yet?

Won't have access to a PC for the next 2 weeks, on holiday, so no option to troubleshoot.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] MJFox78:
I updated via local update, worked flawlessly
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
Yeah.. Routine is still the same. This is how I do it.

Flash rom

Flash twrp (I'm using latest Blu spark)

Clear dalvik/cache

Reboot to twrp

Flash magisk 17.2

Boot system
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] RagingHarry:
So the 9.86 twrp, just to be sure?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
Hm.. I had 985v2 so 9.86 should be fine.. Didn't know it got updated.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] RealZac:
9.86 is fine.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dante_nfs:
This was not the case with h2os beta 6, that had the same changelog, latency is better on official pie. Going to test the new beta. Sorry for perusing this issue every time it comes up. The good thing is more people are now aware of what is latency and are serious about it as i'v seen recently.

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Exactly!, the thing is it's not consistent too, in betas, i mean some minutes it's somehow like official pie, then later it's like beta 3! Just scroll up and down slowly a Spotify library without putting up your finger, you see what i mean! Sometimes your finger is at the bottom but the name of the song you started the scroll is way up! And behind!

Very inconsistent, and as far as i tested i couldn't find the cause of it. For some hours it's good, and after that it gets worse without installing any new app.

Edit 1: it seems the build number is newer than the h2os beta 6 so there might be some changes finger crossed!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
By flash TWRP just the installer zip right?

And magisk 17.2 works?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] istperson:
There's only one safe rollback method. It's wiping all your data. What you find here is working, but no one will guarantee it will work with zero problems.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
Yes and yes.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] stefano alegnini:
someone tried to install the latest blue spark kernel?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] RagingHarry:
Update went smooth, rom and blu twrp 9.86, reboot recovery, install magisk 17.2.

Running just fine.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] RealZac:
Nice! :good: :)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] b.huss2:
On it now
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] stefano alegnini:
thanks
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] zellleonhart:
Please report back after you test out beta 4. Holding on to stable release now because the touch latency is ok.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I'm on 9.85, how can I update to 9.86 without a PC? Or if I use a PC all I need to do is fastboot boot the TWRP image or what's the updating process?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] more_than_hater:
Bad idea, cuz old sources for previous versions.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] TiZiO.Cover:
Don't think so.

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-6/development/kernel-t3800965/post77738972
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
You already have twrp. No need to fastboot.

Just flash the zip from twrp AFAIK. But if it works now, no need to change,flash it when flashing update or another rom instead.

But:

9.85v2 is fro OB3

9.86 is for OOS 9.0 stable

From the thread.. I used 9.85v2 for stable aswell but yeah... =o
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
So if I'm going to OB3 I can stay on 9.85 then? Has anyone tried it?

Also, if I want to update to 9.86, you're saying just flashing the zip will work, even though the IMG is not the same? (9.85 IMG currently)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
The img is just for fastboot to work... Then you flash the zip from the fastbooted twrp to make it stick..

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Like I said... I'm on 9.6.5v2 on ob4 used before on Ob3 also on stable pie..

For the second part of the question... I give up :)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Terrigible:
If you use 9.85 for OB3, you get into Qualcomm Crashdump mode.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] MJFox78:
no, no notch when in ambient display
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] samtab37:
Did you hide the notch or not?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] goRt:
None here, working fine, rooted
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] snaker445:
Is it me but if I chose to hide the clock in status bar, if I drag the notifications it reappears?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] MJFox78:
Edit: sorry, wrong quote

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no, I didn't hide it
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrSteelX:
after flashing any twrp. you MUST flash magisk again or be stuck in twrp boot hell.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] SpectraFun:
Yes but not help. Its to dark on 20%. On 5.1.11 is 20% are much more lighter.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] lollyjay:
Then increase it
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] samtab37:
My problem
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Working fine here :good:
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Will008:
Upgraded through flashing in twrp without issues. Chose to not reflash twrp and magisk after to test out the update in stock. Everything is working so far except for the noticable touch latency delay which is very annoying, once you notice it you can't unsee it.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Well I was unlocked and rooted on 5.1.11 and I've tested both system upgrade via local upgrade as well as TWRP flash and both went fine as a dirty flash without any issues.

Did you remove all the mods before updating like the subs and Magisk modules or any other mods?

Thank you for your report though.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Non Mtp = official twrp?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] SkandaH:
[MENTION=6143932]Funk Wizard[/MENTION]

OB1 AFH mirror: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=1322778262903997259

Roll-back build (to 5.1.11) AFH mirror: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=1322778262903997276
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] enerGy:
Yes mate everything was removed, clean flashed after using the fastboot unbrick method to clear it all and go back to stock etc even locked again and so on and with this beta plus the hydrogen some others including myself had this issue of when at boot red text came up saying corrupt device and only way to rid of it is double click power button. As I said the method I explained to on here helped me get on beta without the red text problem and now normal like the majority of you guys so could help the others like myself. Using the tool basically makes the device like out of the box condition so thats maybe why its sorted it.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
For all those who are facing touch latency issues try reeducing the animations scale to 0.5 along with transitions and duration under developer options :good:
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
What I noticed about touch latency issues is that once they occur within an app,

going to the homescreen and back into the same app fixes them temporarily.

This was also the case on DP3.

Do you know if the devs already know about this issue?

As I was running DP3 since I got my OP6 I can't really recall if this has also been the case on OOS 5.1.x.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] lollyjay:
Should be a way to get them lower by editing an xml file?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dex2grigg:
Thank you, did you flash in settings?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] renatoknot:
I installed through the stock recovery and my Google Playstore is ok
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Sorry I meant going to OB4
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] more_than_hater:
Used 9.85v2 for OB3 - ok,

updated to OB4 with 9.85v2 - ok,

updated to 9.86 - ok.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
How do I know if I'm on v2? My TWRP splash screen just shows 9.85, so that might not be v2? Does yours say v2?

Just to be safe what's the procedure for updating TWRP to 9.95v2?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] more_than_hater:
Just flash latest blu spark's twrp zip file from your current twrp
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dante_nfs:
First minutes of ob4 and it have the same inconsistency as other betas, stay at official if you care for latency being just ok. The official is way ahead in terms of scrolling and tap latency.

Will give it a factory reset and see if it behaves differently(which i don't think so!) then I'm back to official pie.

This is good that oneplus with this changelog accepted that the latency issue does exist and they are tackling it. Will see the next beta, since official is now just usable and is not that much on my nerve!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Ok awesome :)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] b.huss2:
Lol, isn't that the xda way? These forums are full of bad ideas. :cowboy:

Anyway it works fine. I'll get new source when blue gets updated...
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
I can confirm that it is unchanged to beta 3. Sometimes it's good, then suddenly acts weird again

were scrolling and tapping latency is noticeably higher.

If you find it to be better after a factory reset, please let us know.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] memocatcher:
Can I just flash the beta over official pie in TWRP? Or is beta oxygen os still on a lower security patch and will fu** my internal storage up?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] b.huss2:
I flashed ob4 over pie stable with no issues
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] immarcel:
There are still so many obvious UI bugs they didn't fix, I wonder when they're gonna get around to doing that. I wrote up a reddit post on all of the UI/UX issues I collected and the only thing they fixed AFAIK are the empty recents and the battery usage info
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dante_nfs:
Exactly. To be honest even official is not that good, it's just ok. It's really nice that i see people are now care for this stuff and I'm not alone! Sometimes i felt lonely before :) :laugh:

They are improving it and it's a good sign that they are taking it seriously. Waiting for next betas to see the future. But honestly it seems android devices are all having a latency problem, even the best of them.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Terrigible:
The part on lockscreen: I reported it as a bug and they said it was part of the design. SMH.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] belle701:
Mine is just bootloader is unlocked then also update showing root is detected...

How can I install this update?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Just let the system download and install the full update. Click ok and let the system do its thing work.

PS: Remove/Uninstall any root mods, substratum overlays, Magisk modules before your proceed.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] immarcel:
lmao that's total bs. i wish they owned up to their mistakes
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] null0seven:
I was on stable 9.0, twrp blu spark v.9.86.

Reboot to recovery.

Factory reset. Advanced wipe : wipe all except internal storage.

Flash Oos ob04.

Reflash twrp v.9.86.

Reboot to recovery. Flash Magisk 17.1.

Reboot to system.

All ok. This time google play instaled my apps fine the first time for me.

Camera version is 2.8.31

Thanks.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] BossNexusS:
Why did you wipe? Unless you wanted to, I dirty flashed from stable and everything is working perfectly!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] null0seven:
I am a clean flash man.

Wooooowww. Ob04 is on official site too!

https://downloads.oneplus.com/
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] vrda08:
Omg.. latency is like s*** in comparasion with stable one.. I reverted back immediately
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] js931:
Just dirty flashed over OB3 and now it always shows the VoWifi icon in the status bar, even if I disable VoWifi in the settings... (see screenshot)

Anyone else?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jack_Sparrow_:
So I was on 9.85 and I flashed ob4, then 9.85v2, wipe cache and dalvik, reboot to twrp, flashed magisk 17.2, reboot to system.

Really smooth :)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dante_nfs:
ok after factory reset with data wipe it's the same. if anyone here is sensitive to latency like me, do not install beta 4. otherwise it's great.