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[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] kage00:
Sorry, another post about latency...

I didn't get any latency with ob3 (I didn't flash ob1 and ob2 so I can't comment there) and at first 9.0 stable was great as well. But gradually over time I have the latency with 9.0 stable exactly as you show in the video. I now understand how frustrating it is... Is it worth flashing ob4 or am I likely to have the same latency?

I find it strange that OnePlus are saying that latency has been fixed in the changelog for ob4 but users are saying that it's still there. Are OnePlus just telling us what we want to hear?

I also don't get the fact that beta builds are still coming out now that stable 9.0 is out, I'm I the only one who finds this strange? If they're claiming to have fixed something in beta builds (like latency for example) why then wouldn't the stable build be also updated with the latest fixes?? What is the point of continuing to work on beta builds when the stable build is 'stable'?

Or are OnePlus admitting that the 'stable' build might not be that stable and that they rushed it to have a 'finished' update, when clearly more work needs to be done to have it properly finished?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] LazerH:
Imo they released it to test in order to have a proper build for the 6t release
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Flying Fox:
[MENTION=2001743]Kagee[/MENTION]OO: Stable is stable. There will always be "bugs" and the operating systems are far too complex. Just as every other manufacturer releases updates for "stable" versions from time to time. It's also about better performance, better battery consumtion and much more.

Beta versions bring improvements and sometimes new features, sometimes causing "beta-testers" to speak out and identify any (new) bugs that will be fixed in future stable versions; in addition, to adapt stable versions to the needs of the user. Better than other brands that bring in long intervals so-called "stable" updates, which are then quite flawed and you have to wait forever, until errors are eliminated.

Then there are the flash-hungry ones too. For some it is frustrating to wait half a year or more for an update. So there are enough reasons for this philosophy. And it is also very welcome to me.

In the end, it's up to you to stick with the stable updates or use the beta versions.

You can not seem to do it right for everyone. On the one hand, more opportunities and freedoms are offered here, then exactly that is not desirable again.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] meistr91:
Im also lookin into it. In this oxygen pie we are missing quite few features.. and for some reason i believe OP not going to implement these features like:

Lockscreen weather;

App action/slices;

Copying text from a recent menu app pages.

Yesterday I have noticed a topic in a forums that nokia getting official pie also and in their changelog they're already implemented app action/slices.

[MENTION=9253142]funkwizard[/MENTION] do you know something about oxygen os pie future features?

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Im trying matlog, to see those errors but my matlog app just loading log always the spining animation and nothing apears in the list:o how long log app must run to see log?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] meistr91:
Edit:

Got matlog app showing a log. I have plenty of those errors man.

Almost every second log line is this error.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dante_nfs:
Exactly what i was going to write. Every company has different software scheduling. Releasing a software has a timeline. Most of the time its like pre alpha, alpha, pre beta(internal testing), testers beta, public beta, release candidate, official that is not gone public, then an public release.

Mnaybof this names are different in platforms and companies.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] meistr91:
Edit: forgot to mentioned that im on stable.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] b.huss2:
Nope. Running just fine.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Will008:
Holy **** look at that video!!! I thought I had some latency at some point with my OP6 but that's a totally different level. Now and only now I can see why some people are more annoyed than me with this!!!

For anyone that doesn't really get what the latency issue is look at that video! This is like my old N6P while it's throttling!!!

I can confirm that my OP6 never got this laggy or latent to be grammatically correct. I wanna think it's a hardware specific issue/failure that can be managed on a kernel level which explains why it becomes better or worse with different versions of software. Cause only then that would explain why only some devices have the issue and some don't with a clean flash

Have you tried using a custom kernel and playing around with input boost? From a technical side this could be the processor not working hard enough at these times, could be handling other apps or operation in the background. I haven't tried any custom kernels on my OP6 yet as I don't wanna get sucked into all the micro details (I tend to do that) but I did with all my previous devices. Maybe check out EX kernel and use just the performance profile or increase the input boost as a start to try to troubleshoot where the issue is coming from. If he issue disappears then you know where your problem is.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chirag Piplani:
I updated my oneplus 6 to android 9 stable version. Now i am not be able to flash twrp with my pc.. whenever i try to flash twrp recovery phone will automatically turn on the Qualcomm crush dump.. sorry for bad english..

Plz help
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Geoz:
You don't flash TWRP with PC, either fasboot img or flash zip from recovery.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] pankspoo:
Flash this bluespark twrpimg 9.85 v2 only.

It will not gives u crashdump

https://xdaforums.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=30421
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] AcmE85:
Thanks, at least somebody sees this for what it is. I did not try a kernel yet but will do so in the near future.

Currently I'm in touch with OnePLus' Bug Hunters, so I keep it stock for the time being.

I really can't think of anything running in the background, also my device doesn't get any warmer once this happens. And as I said in a previous posts, there are no lag, stutter, performance issues.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Roger.T:
fastboot boot twrp-3.2.3-x_blu_spark_v9.86_op6.img from pc.

Then you can flash the twrp-3.2.3-x_blu_spark_v9.86_op6.zip...

Flashing via pc does not work on a/ b device.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] BossNexusS:
In every single beta including the official stable pie build I was getting horrible idle battery drain, overnight I would get like almost 10% or more of battery drain.. In beta 4 this is the first time the battery is amazing! Overnight I only lost about 3 or 4% which is normal! So it seems they have fixed the battery drain issue.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chirag Piplani:
I cant find the twrp installer link.. there is only img file.. without installer this will work?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Will008:
Your video is clear as day man. You have every right to bring this up on this thread imo, and no one has the right to be annoyed by it, i'm referring to the other post where someone was annoyed by this subject. if I had it that bad I would either go crazy or break the damn phone.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dante_nfs:
I played a lot with underlying settings, a lot!. Different kind of boosting, different kernel settings. No it is not related to kernel settings. I flashed and tried flash kernel, the latency of it was much better than stock on Oreo, but not in pie actually worse. It seems it's a firmware/framework problem. I always going back to official pie. Betas are right now having some problem in this aspect
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] lollyjay:
You probably disabled the OOS launcher.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Roger.T:
OP Launcher was activated..

That was the first thing I had checked ?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Will008:
Sucks to hear that. Hope they do fix it totally on betas and stable later on, at least in the next few weeks before they launch the 6T. Seems like they are experimenting with it if they say they fixed it with this beta then it turns out it's worse than the latest build.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
There's a magisk module but it's only for Stable. I would like for OnePlus to implement this feature as well though.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Roger.T:
https://xdaforums.com/devdb/project/?id=27466#downloads
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gmos24:
Anyone having issues with wifi on this build? When I try to turn wifi on it just turns back off after about 10 seconds.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
For me it was better on beta 3. 3% overnight, now 10%
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] BossNexusS:
Wow I wonder how it could be opposite for some people. That's strange. Maybe it could be an app?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] pankspoo:
https://xdaforums.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=30421
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] meistr91:
On stable even with ex kernel my battery in 5-6hours while I'm sleeping loses 3-5% no aod. Is this normal? Cuz if my phone is being untouched for more time for example in 8 hours of sleep it loses around 8-10%. But maybe it normal?

What is time frame for "overnight" in your case?

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How long it is that "overnight" when you lost only 3%? 8hours?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Like 10PM to 8AM so 10 hrs. Only 3% lost, I was stunned lol

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Maybe but I haven't installed any new ones. I'll see again tonight.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] meistr91:
Damn! So mine is draining in 5-6hours 5% no aod, i have many apps, but none of them heavy drainers, i dont have instagr, facebook, messenger. And better battery stats showing that my phone was deep sleeping all the time..but now im on stable, but same drain was on all betas.

I will try next week latest beta. Cus i will do clean install as always so need to find a time for that:D
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] BossNexusS:
For me I sleep maybe around 7 hours and I lose around 4-5% before this beta though the same amount of sleep I was losing around 10%

Yeah I haven't installed any new apps either and I dirty flashed from stable so strange..
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
I had 0.3%/hour on beta 1,2,3, 4 and stable!

I used sleep as android to measure movements during the night and I lost 0.7%/hour as expected.

So 3% in 10 hours with wifi on on every pie update.

I don't have any advanced battery setting ticked.

Pie is really battery friendly.

Only thing I did after update is wipe dalvik cache from twrp.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] stavca:
I just want to confirm the same spam in Matlog as someone mentioned earlier, I maybe try to add some item into build.prop for unlocking FPS but with -60 parameter to see if there is any difference (don't think so but why not try it)

I also tried tp fw files someone enclosed here and there was no difference in touch latency so it seems to be not tp related as it was on 3T

lastly I tried forcing GPU rendering from dev options but that also didn't solve it
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] meistr91:
Really no advanced optimization? No sleep stanby optimization?:ooo cuz i have both on..

**** im again disappointed:D i need to find the couse of that. Im always doing clean flash..

Im even on ex kernel.. which helps woth a battery. Strange.. must be the apps then.. but in better battery stats there is no any unusual behaviour..
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
None. I'm on stock kernel aswell.

WiFi signal is really strong so that might also help some.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] rawdealer:
When I read about this latecy thing..... You guys must be new to Android or you're very young, because this thing is part of Android for the last (or first) 10 years. This is present on every phone out there except iPhone. Sorry, but that's the truth.

Second.....this beta 4 is fu..ed up. Should we call this latency.....when you press on widget (Clock, At a glance.....) the opening of the app is up to10 seconds behind the press and is random. On every launcher, including OnePlus.

Third......Shelf.....when you swipe to the right on the home screen, opening shelf could sometimes be fricking jerky.

So..... Beta 4 is the worst build after DP1 in my opinion. :)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] BossNexusS:
Wow that is amazing! I was getting that on Oreo but not so lucky on pie. But the battery seems to be getting better so hopefully we can get back there. You use ex kernel manager to see battery drain? Wakelock detector and bbs weren't working for me properly on pie.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
I use better battery stats :o works as intended.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gmos24:
Hey all, if anyone is having issues with Wi-Fi or just installing/rooting in general here's what I did to fix my issue:

1. Downloaded the official OB4 zip from the OnePlus website. Link

2. Downloaded the TWRP blu_spark zip onto my device directly. Link

3. Powered off the phone and then rebooted into recovery (Vol Down + Power)

4. Flashed the zip that was downloaded above.

5. Cleared cache, then rebooted into system to let the update finish. I waited until the notification said complete.

6. Powered off the phone and then rebooted into fastboot mode (Vol Up + Power)

7. Downloaded the blu_spark img onto my PC. Link

8. Opened a command prompt in the folder that has the blu_spark img then ran

fastboot boot twrp-3.2.3-x_blu_spark_v9.86_op6.img

9. Once blu_spark loaded, installed the blu_spark zip file then rebooted into the system. (Make sure you install the zip and NOT the img on this step.)

10. Powered off phone and rebooted into recovery.

11. Flashed the Magisk 17.1 zip. Link

12. When finished, wiped cache and then rebooted into system.

13. Done!

Hope this helps!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] baadnewz:
Yes is present and is huge, like you said about 10 seconds. Funny is how they say in the change log that it was addressed, seems they only made it worse. I understand is beta but dont they have a QA or at least some testers?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Unkk:
I can't see Google Pay on the Play Store. I am on OB4 + Magisk, and I pass Safety Net.

Anyone else with the same problem ?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
Touch latency(not lag) is not part of Android. Ive seen it on cheap and poorly optimized phones but in the flagships and more expensive phones it's virtually zero. It's bad on Pie on the OP6.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] MJFox78:
could somebody please do me a favor and try if the back action works with any of the accessibility apps (e.g. this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jun.ace.piecontrol) when navigation gestures are enabled in the settings?

for me the back action is broken on all the pie builds (they work when navigation bar is enabled though)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] b.huss2:
My wife's note 8 behaves exactly the same way, so it's not just OnePlus 6, it's an Android thing.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ippolito1971:
With 9.0 stable and flash kernel the latency is all but non-existent. I think I'll hold tight until the next update.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] habylab:
Link doesn't work for me.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dante_nfs:
Yes, As i said earlier, android does have a performance or better to say user experience problem, even the typing experience is different in ios, much better response and feel. I'm a long time user of android and ios! And i always dreamed about having an android os device with ios experience in terms of response and feel.

Anyway, the recent menu is fixed in new launcher versions in last betas (i think h2os). If anyone is on pie official and wants some bugs resolved, you can download the new launcher in apkmirror.com i recommend cleaning the storage of launcher app after the install to prevent future issues. The recent menu behaves much better in newer versions.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] MJFox78:
just search for "pie control" on the appstore
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Works for me.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
This is mad, so now because the OP6 has bad touch latency on Pie, it's an "Android thing". Touch latency IS NOT an Android thing! Lag perhaps is an Android thing but touch latency isn't!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] MJFox78:
just to be clear: back action works for you when navigation gestures are enabled?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Yes.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] MJFox78:
thanks! that's really weird though, it doesn't work for me with all the accessibility apps I tried
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Burt Squirtz:
exactly. But with OB4 and Flash kernel the latency is also nonexistent.. .. people really need to start trying custom kernels.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] BossNexusS:
Hmm when I open it it says api compatibility issue. Which version are you using? Also it works for me even though it says that message, but the stats are different when comparing the ex kernel battery manager stats for the same time period. Which is weird.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] yldlj:
Shouldn't have to
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Burt Squirtz:
let's all use iPhones. Cutting Edge features and customization sucks
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Batfink33:
I still don't think people understand what touch latency is on this thread. It's not lag!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] yldlj:
Go for it
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] b.huss2:
We know what it is, and the fact is ALL touch devices have this problem. Look it up. The OnePlus 6 (at least mine) doesn't seem to be higher than any other device I've tried. Now that doesn't discount the fact that certainly some of you may be suffering worse than others, but the problem has been noted, acknowledged by OnePlus, and they seem to be trying to address it. Now I personally hope they can reduce it. Not for me, because it actually doesn't affect my user experience at all, but for you guys that are unhappy with it.

Oh and here is a good video on touch latency:

https://youtu.be/vOvQCPLkPt4
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ippolito1971:
Interesting, I'll give it a go. Thanks!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] texasaggie1:
I read on the OnePlus forum that each jump from stable to beta or back required a data wipe.

I'm on stable but want to switch to beta for a while so I will let you know when I do if I had to do a data wipe.

Are there any good reasons to switch to the beta?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] gitzz:
I am also facing the same issue, I have 2 apps X-home bar and Oneplus gesture app(an app that add gestures to android phones like OnePlus gestures with more functions) and if I assign any gesture to simulate the back button they fail to do that. Strange, thing is they don't simulate back gesture if turn on OnePlus gestures(turning off on screen buttons).

Another strange thing is XDA gesture app works well.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] whizeguy:
Im using latest from store :o
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Will008:
Thanks.

The reason to switch to betas would be to just to get the some bug fixes and new experimental features that OP tries on betas before pushing it to stable builds.

I'll skip OB4 anyways as all I heard was it's a lot worse than the latest stable build in terms of latency.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Flying Fox:
Oneplus has to say that a clean flash is required. So they can´t be held accountable for any issues that may occur by dirty flashing. I usually dirty flash as I did few minutes ago from ob4 back to stable (for personal reasons). I don´t face any issues as I never did before. But I always backup my data on an external storage, just in case. And from time to time I clean up my system.

So you can try dirty flashing. If you don´t feel comfortable, just wipe what you want (except internal storage of course..).
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] shail139:
The best release till date...First time got 7+ SOT with OB4 and 24+ hours of battery life with no hiccups at all.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] MJFox78:
thanks for confirming it... fooView works as well, others that I tried fail to invoke the back action

looks like there are two ways to invoke the back action and most apps do it in a way that doesn't work with Android Pie... not sure if this is an app issue or an OOS issue
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] pyry666:
I am at nowhere near computer so just to be sure, can i dirty flash from ob3 to ob4 using latest bluspark twrp 86? That i updated from v2 via twrp and it went fine..Thanks!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] crisahan:
Just a quick question, is this OB4 here on XDA different from the one on Oneplus official download page?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Chirag Piplani:
Thank you brother..

I installed twrp bluspark img and after that i install twrp 3.2.3 and twrp is installed properly
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Terrigible:
Nope. It is exactly the same. In fact, this link was probably produced from an OTA on a device. Like, through Settings→System→System updates
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] thugslug:
Yes. But TWRP will be gone after you reboot into OB4 and you'll be stock.

No worries. Just install TWRP again when you're back at the PC. And Magisk straight away if you want root.

After flashing OB4 you can reinstall TWRP.zip again straight away by not rebooting to system after installing OB4. Stay in TWRP and flash TWRP.zip before you leave , but the steps might be tricky and if you try that read up (search) first.

Sounds like you're not that familiar yet, so best to update to OB4, then stay stock until you're near a PC to reinstall TWRP again from scratch (as in install the TWRP. Img from fastboot then TWRP.zip from TWRP). Remember to flash Magisk 17.1 or 17.2 before you leave TWRP if you want root. I use 17.2 and it's been fine.

Best to read the guide again before you reinstall TWRP if you're at all unsure how to.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] pyry666:
I have done this and know the steps but whole crash dump thing that happened to people before got me worried cause i need my phone. Thank you for your answer
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] thugslug:
Forgot to say. Would be wise to wipe dalvik and ART cache in TWRP before you reboot into OB4.

That would make problems less likely.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] pyry666:
Just updated and everything went smoothly! Thank you
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] erad1:
But is there even an art/dalvik cache partition to wipe on this device?...stay woke!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] joakimbo:
I'm experiencing some kind of wakelock after updating to OB4. Not helping clearing cache for now. Let's see how it goes.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] nhas81:
Someone here was stable again. If so, can you tell me how you did it?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Flying Fox:
I just dirty flashed. Maybe I go back to ob4 the same way. Feel better battery consumption with the beta. And latency is the same for me, ignorable..