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[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] bl3d2death:
Yeah... But tap to wake isn't an oled feature ?.

But nice to know that the device has it ?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Xebeck:
Go to time 1.36 in this video...

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https://youtu.be/aLt8r5gqmMs

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Other features are also worth a watch in the video...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] bl3d2death:
Thanks a lot. Nice :)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] pgunning1:
Sorry to bring this up again but it doesn't work on my F1, it ask for permission which I'd already set in settings as per the picture already posted. I use smart launcher and that has double tap off and that doesn't work either.

It has worked for about a day with the smart launcher setting but goes back to "this device requires to enable accessibility services etc." this had already been done but doesn't work.

Is there a fix for this as the double tap is really useful but not working properly due to permissions on the f1.

Atb
[HTC Excalibur] bbbblack:
Okay, for those who do not know what "jsr-75" is...

from what i have recently read, it is a smartphone/ppc spec

that allows a java browser like operamini too download files, without having to

use internet explorer.

2 questions...

Is there a plugin that can be installed 2 achieve this?

Is the excalibur "jsr-75" capable?

I need 2 know, becuz i hate when i login 2 a forum in operamini, then i download a file, and i have 2 reenter my login in internet explorer....

heres a link below too one of the many pages i read

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSR-75
[HTC Excalibur] qaplus:
the version of jbed included in Kavaran's wm6.1 supports JSR-75. I have no problem to save webpages from opera mini 4.1
[HTC Excalibur] bbbblack:
still cant download

is anyone able 2 download files using operamini 4.1 's downloader on their excalibur? is there a plugin that i must download?
[HTC Excalibur] tberni:
Hello guys.

Does the MIDlet Manager of HTC Trinity supports JSR-75?

(This is Intent MIDP 2.0-Runtime: v10.1.7.570 build: 20070102)
[HTC Excalibur] Mdraft:
Mine doesn't work. The file save dialog shows up in black but will not allow me to go to any other folder other than "bluetooth". If I click bluetooth it gives an error as I don't have a memory card
[Honor 10 Questions & Answers] Maneep:
Hi all, as the thread title states, does anyone know of an online store that has this for purchase and able to ship to the UK?
[Honor 10 Questions & Answers] fiskcz:
Maybe here? I don't know. You must wait a few months when it gets into normal shops.

https://deal.gizmochina.com/product/huawei-honor-10-gt-8gb-64gb/

https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_009202601000.html?wid=1349303&lkid=14637065
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
Hello,

has anyone been able to figure what the sdcard ratings are on this?

is it UHS ii?

can anyone post their write speeds?( people with sd cards anything under UHS i/ v30 please dont bother posting)

edit:

Also, to unify results can everyone use Androbench app?

And be sure to go to settings and point your ext sd card.

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
ain't anyone interested/curious in how fast their transfer rate to their sd card is? gues because it has nothing to do with facebook or antisocial media then it doesn't count as being a real thing...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] soraxd:
if you have Solid Explorer you can visually see your transfer speed.

transferring the same file across different phones / SD cards can give you a comparison.

i believe the bottleneck is the SD card, as the phone is capable of transferring at speeds far beyond what the SD card is capable of. so even if the Note 9 can transfer faster than the other phones, the SD card will limit it to a fraction of its capable speed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] GFTB:
check Notebookcheck.net

Also most of the phone is stuck at <100MB/s for SDcard transfer rate atm. I don't know why but, maybe to prevent heat generated.

You can get an UHS-II TypeC card reader ya know. or get 512GB for full UFS 2.1 speed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
No not really. Different files and sizes transfer at different speeds. Also, you're basically stuck with whatever speeds you get as there are very few ways to 'optimize' or 'tweak' performance of a SD card. And besides most people are still buying MP3s. Why? I don't know. Ain't anyone interested in listening to CD quality music? Myself, I still buy compact discs and rip them into FLACs and MP3s when I get it then the CD mostly collects dust.

And some of us are waiting on 512GB cards from Samsung and SanDisk to come out. No point in buying a 400GB card when I know I will get the 512 when the price comes down.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
all this is fine and dandy but i was expecting actual file transfer read and write data numbers.

none provided their current rates. all other info is irrelevant.

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Namuna:
I'd be interested to know the slot speed rating as well. Currently the phone defaults to using the internal capacity to write to for things like high-end video recording, due to the external SD not being fast enough.

...But is that actually due to the slot speed not being fast enough? Or because the vast majority of users will use standard SD Cards, which aren't fast enough to keep-up and it would cause complaints. Would be nice to find out it's the latter, I wouldn't mind investing in a faster SD Card for a little boost in performance.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
Although I don't know the specifics for the Note 9. The SD card reading hardware on the device is the bottleneck and a source of where all manufactures go cheap. The read and right will top out between 60MB/s to 70 MB/s. This is why the internal storage is preferred but I the device for use and the main thing people overlook when it comes to devices with expandable memory. Expandable storage is simply meant for storage and not for high quality video recording and bust, super slow-mo, and other high quality video and image writing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] calinormy:
4k video takes about 100- 150Mbs on a high end camera. That's about 18 MB/sec write speed. All the medium/high quality sd cards can do those speeds...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
Yes, but most cards don't reach their advertised potential and multiple simultanious writes impact speeds a lot more. This is why there are 512GB devices and why they still sell. The average person won't max out the capability of the SD slot but you always get a few that will use the device well beyond what most of us will.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] aznmode:
I'm getting read 73.41mb/s Write 31.85mb/s with the 256gb card that came free with the note 7. Also note, I only have about 47gb free on it so that may affect the results.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...U3FV8&linkId=7c4bd977c420841b12df0b4adde20239

2nd test 71.35 read & 37 write
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
I use a Samsung EVO Plus 128GB card. 68MB/s sustained read and 62MB/s sustained write, using a 28GB 4k Blu-Ray rip. The card can read 100MB/s and write 90MB/s but those speeds are only close to achievable when plugged into my USB 3 card reader.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] suzook:
It's rated at 100 gigawatts.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
now that is exactly the info i wanted to see.

you sir are a gentlemen and a scholar.

in the hopes that you serve as an example for the masses.

regards,
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
heh.. thx Doc
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
68MB/s sustained read and 62MB/s sustained write

in the note 9?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
Also, to unify results can everyone use Androbench app?

be sure to go to settings and point your ext sd card.

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
Yes, but it is a large file. Read and write speeds tend to start off a bit better and should be a bit better for smaller files.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
no problem, tests are encouraging. i have the evo plus 256gb and and on the note 8 was getting barely 10 MB/s write speeds.

on the computer was getting the advertised speeds on an UHS 3 reader.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Namuna:
Samsung EVO+ 256GB UHS-I microSDXC U3 (exact same as aznmode above).

Using the AndroBench app:

1st Run:

Read: 76.1mb/s

Write: 31.01mb/s

2nd Run:

Read: 77.24mb/s

Write: 29.56mb/s

As a reference, the internal memory bench is:

Read: 747.8mb/s

Write: 189.0mb/s
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] lawtq:
Tested this immediately when I got it cause I wanted to know if it was uhs2 too. It isn't. Reads cards slower than my mate 10. Below, adata uhs2 card and below that the note 9 internal speeds.

Maybe the note 10 will have uhs2

Adata uhs2 v90 card

Note 9
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
wow i just bought the a data 256gb premiere one last night. crap!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] lawtq:
Lol I don't see anything using this technology right now. Overkill
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
one thing for sure is that when i copy my entire 25 000 mp3 archive on it using an external adapter it wont take 12 hours anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Namuna:
I looked up that card on Amazon and saw this posted by one of the reviewers:

"I did a quick benchmark in a coworker's Galaxy S8 and got 260 MB/s read and 153 MB/s write using the application "A1 SD Bench". It works in my old Galaxy S5, but is severely bottlenecked by the internal micro SD controller."

Okay, it would really SUCK if our flagship Note9 has a lesser Micro SD controller than the lesser S8
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
yeah, i just don't know anymore. but one thing i do know is that slow write speeds and samsung phones are a common occurrence. Ive had alot of different sd cards. regardless of their ratings, have always got poor performance in samsung phones. the s5 s7 note 8 and will test with the note 9 but i have a feeling i will be disappointed again. regardless of sd card promoted performance and real life tests in an adapter, one thing always seems to have an impact: the size. even if the sd card rating has a better speed rating than its smaller counter part, the bigger card is always slower. i had a 128 gb class 10 and it beat my sammy evo + 256gb uhs. if i test both cards in a laptop or an adapter, the evo crushes it hands down.

*please note that when i refer to better rating or speed, i especially mean write speeds. read speeds have a much lesser discrepancy.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] GFTB:
i strongly believe they do support at least SDA 4.0 standard, but for some reason limiting the actual capable bandwidth of the protocol to prevent thermal conductivity and so on.

This is a result of my Toshiba 64GB M401

I had a UHS-II microSD Lexar one, but unfortunately it is a dead card now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
thx for input
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Namuna:
While I'd still like to know the actual slot capability, I think ultimately it's a moot point and I don't necessarily fault Samsung for going cheap on it. In PC equivalence, it's the 'D:' drive. The 'D:' drive is typically where you store all your files and media, whereas anything you need to run at peak performance is on the 'C:' drive...Typically.

For my day-to-day use, having the Note9 use the internal 128gb to handle all the high-speed/bandwidth functions (like capturing 4k video and such) is plenty good enough.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] lawtq:
That reviewer can't be serious.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] @rbiter:
There are still people who don't know the difference between MB/Mb and GB/Gb. Huge difference. Divide all those numbers by 8.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] clone1008:
So what's a good cheap recommendation for 128 and above?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
For the note 9? apparently any class 10 lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
just thought id post my results from my new Adata premier one 256gb card.

its a far cry from its rated speeds but compaired to my samsung evo plus 256g write speeds are much faster.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] sbergman27:
Nope. You don't need FLAC.

Encoding to FLAC is hideously wasteful of space, and totally unnecessary. Yes, I know there are scads of people who think they were born with platinum ears and swear up and down they can tell the difference between high rate mp3's and the original CD. Funny thing is... it only works when they know which is which. Put them in a blinded study and suddenly their super-human hearing stops working. This has been tested over and over, with consistent results.

Have a look at the McGill University study conducted by the Centre for Interdisciplinary Research in Music Media and Technology: "Subjective Evaluation of MP3 Compression for Difference Musical Genres"

The mixed experimental group, made up of experienced sound engineers and musicians (both trained listeners who make their living on their keen hearing) cannot tell the difference between a 256kbit/s mp3 and the original CD, even when tested under ideal conditions with top quality sound equipment. Their ability to tell a 192kbit mp3 from the CD (again, under ideal conditions) is only barely statistically significant. And, in fact, they prefer 320kbit mp3's to the original CD.

This is why I laugh at people who think they can tell the difference when listening on their mobile devices, where it is unlikely that they could actually tell the difference between even a 128kbit mp3 and a FLAC. Save your drive space and just record in variable bit rate with a target of 256kbit or 320kbit and I guarantee that you will never notice the difference. (Ogg Vorbis can probably match on quality at a lower bit rate than mp3.) Save the FLAC for literal archival.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] hankvb:
The golden eared people have existed for a long time. It's gotten worse since compression of music has arrived.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] 6thtry:
Just for reference: brand new note 9, brand new Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB (UHS-I 3, V30, A2, 170MB/s // 90MB/s; variant with A2 rating on top of packet and card, A1 on the backside of packet :P), only few photos stored on the card before running Androbench.

Sequential read 72.65MB/s

Sequential write 48.02MB/s

Random Read 5.8MB/s, 1487.3 IOPS (4KB)

Random Write 2.44 MB/s, 625.48 IOPS (4KB)

Obviously, phone is likely the bottleneck on sequential rates, and IOPS rate only around the A1 requirements, not reaching A2. Since Sandisk itself is a bit uncertain which A-rating the card should be, considering that there are cards with the same name etc. but with A1 rating for sale, too, I can not say whether the lower than advertised IOPS rates are caused by card or phone. I would guess to blame the phone.

Personally, those values are good enough for me, _if_ they stay at such levels for long time. The problem isn't typically the rates at the begin of use, but after 1-2 years. Hmm.. I'd better record those numbers to my own notes, too, for a recheck in future.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OAC0nU7FVvPH5UDJkOotCfoFdDp2JfBF/view?usp=sharing
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] hankvb:
Samsung Note 9 with older 64gig Samsung Evo Select card using same program.

Sequential read 84.93MB/s

Sequential write 70.71MB/s

Random Read 8.59MB/s, 2201.15 IOPS (4KB)

Random Write 3.3 MB/s, 845.25 IOPS (4KB)

Nope I'd question the card. This card is not rated for A1 or A2. Your A2 card should have much higher IOPS and transfer rates - not lower. But thanks for showing me Androbench. I've been looking for a way to get IOPS.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] 6thtry:
For another reference, I went and bought Samsung Evo Plus 128GB (UHS-I 3, 100MB/s // 90MB/s, no Vxx or Ax ratings), which, according to interwebs, is the same as that Evo Select series (which is just branding for Amazon's exclusive selling). Results measured immediately after inserting it (no few photos this time). In both the Sandisk and this case, I did not format the cards; they are with whatever format/setup/state they came with. (I run the tests twice, no significant differences.)

Sequential read 66.63 MB/s

Sequential write 39.13 MB/s

Random Read 4.93 MB/s, 1264.39 IOPS (4KB)

Random Write 2.6 MB/s, 666.85 IOPS (4KB)

So, compared to that Evo Select, way lower figures, and also mostly lower than the earlier Sandisk. Exception being random writes which are slightly better than with the Sandisk. So, I'm still inclined to blame the phone, not the cards.

Considering that the Evo Select and Plus cards are presumably the same stuff, and still gave so much worse numbers on my phone, I'd ask next: which CPU/SoC? Mine is, I think, Exynos, due to being an euro-model (NEE specifically). If, by chance, hankvb's phone has Snapdragon, perhaps the SD card interfaces are in the SoCs, and Exynos has worse hardware and/or driver software implementation?

Or should I format the cards with the phone first?

EDIT: For comparison between Note 9 and something else, I measured with Tab S3 (I don't have any other "new" devices to test with).

For Sandisk: sequentials are about the same, random read about 20% better, random write slightly better (~10%).

For Samsung: sequentials are about the same, random read a lot better (8.33 MB/S, 2134.87 IOPS about 69% higher), random write is slightly better (~10%).

EDIT2: Some things I learned from additional tests with the Sandisk:

Reformatting the card in the phone didn't affect results at all.

Changing test parameters do not affect the sequential values (with the >=8MB settings I tested).

Random with 2kB (instead of 4kB) and 4 threads (instead 8) gave read 1647 IOPS // write 503 IOPS (better and worse, respectively).

Random with 1kB and 8 threads gave 1552 // 388.

Random with 4kB and 4 threads gave 1565 // 606.

Random with 4kB and 16 threads gave 1484 // 550.

Random with 8kB and 8 threads gave 1356 // 490.

So, the defaults of 4kB and 8 threads seems to be quite optimal balance for random access IOPS with this card + phone combination.

I noticed during testing that at least random write rates varied a lot, having occasional short pauses and slowdowns, and at times going much faster than that ~620 IOPS average rate. The Androbench doesn't record the values over time or allow better adjustment of the test process, so it is not possible to study it any better than that (whether it is some buffering, or effect internal to the card).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
for some reason smaller capacity cards faire better than lager cards even though specs are the same. take a samsung evo 64gb vs the exact same model in 256 gb, i bet you that the 64 kicks the 256's ass.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] 6thtry:
I ended up ordering 64GB Evo Select, 64GB Evo Plus, and 128GB Evo Select... So once they arrive, I can make full comparison between Selects and Pluses, 64GB and 128GB, to put some light on at least that part of the mystery.

I think I'm putting too much interest and effort to this, but ... hmm.. "I had to order a 'bit' more to get free delivery"!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
too much is never enough

lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] hometech99:
Now I have the same card with the A2 on the card, front of the package, and A1 on the back of the package in my S9 Plus.

I got the same reading as you with 2 different Android test programs.

The thing is..I get the same reading in SanDisk's Pro reader hooked to USB-C on my laptop....so....is it really A2?

Or...can we find out if any other XDAers out there that have a current phone with true adoptable storage and this card, get anywhere near 170mb/sec read with it adopted?

Why I wonder is..the small print on the back of the card says something about SanDisk using proprietary technology to achieve those high read rates.

Maybe that rate only happens in some phones, and when its adopted...would make sense because remember the A ratings had to do with application performance. Maybe the controller just does the usual UHS-1 100mb/s read speed when moving files etc...but the 170 speed comes out when adopted, and doing app/android system function work..to bring it if not a little closer, but still far from, the phones internal storage speed, but having the IOPS to do it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] 6thtry:
Also, I haven't read anywhere a mention on how the Sandisk card's rating was measured, i.e. how long sequences of operations etc. (Hmm, then again, the A-ratings are sort of standard, maybe that standard defines the setup). For example, maybe they count some very short peak IOPS rate, while Androbench calculates the average over quite a long period. As I did saw some significantly higher rate peaks during the random tests, but also "hiccups" and lower rates. The peaks could very well be reaching the advertised numbers. (Would be nice if Androbench showed graphs over time, but, as it is, just have to rely on eyes looking at the thousands digit..)

I don't have an USB reader that would be fast enough to test directly on a PC. And my PC is too old, too, no USB-C's or any other interfaces that are fast enough, either.

Anyway, once those other cards arrive (now estimated to come Friday), I can compare them all, to see if I can reach similar high rates as hankvb got earlier with any of the cards.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] arsenal74:
Wish I had read this thread yesterday, I just purchased an A2 SanDisk Extreme Pro 256gb to replace my ultra 400gb A1 card!

Just tested and I get 69 read and 59 write. Will test the ultra card tonight...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Da-BOSS:
I will leave this here... type of the SD card is on my signature and this card I have been using it since 3~4 years now on Note 4 to S7 to Note 9 ;) & still alive & kicking on my note 9 :D
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] 6thtry:
Actually, the signature doesn't reveal the exact type; SanDisk has (at least) two types of UHS-I cards with the "extreme pro UHS-I" naming (seems to be the common theme in SD card industry to make ambiguous namings between different models, (presumably) changing tech and keeping the model name and style, etc.):

https://www.sandisk.com/home/memory-cards/microsd-cards/extremepro-microsd

https://www.sandisk.com/home/memory-cards/microsd-cards/extremepro-microsd-a2

But, due to age of the card, I'd guess it would be the older variant (A1 "only").

Those results are comparable to the earlier hankvb's 64GB evo select, so in that sense not that exceptional, though still among the best results.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Da-BOSS:
Alright.. I guess this picture shows everything ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
does your micro sd and sd adapter have extra leads in the back?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] arsenal74:
Tested the ultra last night for a comparison and the results were very close.

Extreme Pro. 69 read and 50 write

Ultra 70 read and 43 write

Too close to worry about in terms of picking between them so I am going to stick with the larger ultra card. It's proof I guess that the N9 really cannot take advantage of faster cards.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Da-BOSS:
Nope, both MicroSD & Adapter doesn't have extra leads in the back :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
wow thanks for the detailed results.

were these tests done on empty cards?

ill format my old evo plus 256gb and post results when i get the time.