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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] t0mmyr:
hey saturn i got the same problem with the clock (battery) in the taskbar on today screen.

i installed the cab update u linked and rebooted and it changed it to a single clock but i didnt want the clock up there on today screen because i have a big HTC home clock already so i did some messing with HTC home customizer and i got my 2line clock back to the taskbar when a window is open, but on today screen it reverted to that messed up battery icon, when i click on it it opens the power tab so i checked my registry to see if i could disable battery on taskbar and its already set to 0 so it shouldnt be there...any help? i dont want any clock or battery on taskbar on today screen, but i would like to keep my 2 line date/clock in taskbar when i open an application like PIE

heres my today screen

heres my taskbar with anything open...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] digitaloutsider:
Attn sirs, I have read over your thread about Saturn Liberty™, but I have really absolutely no idea what Saturn Liberty™ is or why I might want to download Saturn Liberty™. Do you even know what Saturn Liberty™ does? The only thing I've been able to figure about about Saturn Liberty™ is that the name Saturn Liberty™ is trademarked.

Things I've learned from this thread:

Saturn Liberty™ doesn't do much of anything.

Saturn Liberty™ is not uninstallable.

Saturn Liberty™ has a promotional website that doesn't actually promote anything

Saturn Liberty™'s promotional website requires software that quite literally doesn't exist (IE8?)

Even the Saturn Liberty™ development team has no idea what Saturn Liberty™ is.

Saturn Liberty™ is the worst name I've ever heard of.

Saturn Liberty™ Saturn Liberty™

Saturn Liberty™

Liberty™

™
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] t0mmyr:
running beta 3 now, how do i change the default media player? i have tcpmp installed and prefer that over wmp but everytime i click a channel WMP opens
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Hi…

Here you have the list of Revisions of the update

Each one will fix the taskbar problem and will display (if you want) the clock on different ways.

Main Update: KBMC0X0091

To show nothing on the taskbar:

Download Rev: a

To show just the clock on the taskbar:

Download RTM

To show just the date on the taskbar:

Download Rev: b

To show both the date and the clock:

Download Rev: c

Alternatively, go to Clock & Alarms Settings, and then More tab. Select (Check) the option of “Display the clock on the title bar in all programs”, which will enable you to see the clock on the taskbar when you’re inside a program.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Ok thats simple

:)

Open the Optional Media Player

Tap on options

Tap on settings

Tap on Select Page

Tap on File Associations

On that page you can select what files types that will open with the optional media player

To open the Saturn Liberty™ TV and Radio channels just select Windows metafiles (ASX,WMX,WVX,WAX)

If you want the optional media player to play everything just select everything on the list
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] t0mmyr:
awesome!

however this is the outcome of Rev A when I reseted

any idea how to get rid of all that reserved space?

Rev C works for the most part

but I only want it to show clock in open applications, not on Today screen as u can see i have double clocks now...when I opened HTC Home customer and removed the option for taskbar clock on today screen it reverted back to messed up clock/battery overlay so i had to reinstall rev C...any idea how to get it they way i want?

also, do u see the tiny line just to the right of 08, do u know how to get rid of that?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] t0mmyr:
duhhh...thats what i figured but i was just wondering if ur app had individual settings so i guess its just based of WM file associations

radio works great, but when i tried to launch a tv channel i got this
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Yeah sorry for that.

The error is because we got a bug on the server settings it was sending the Normal Desktop Computer File Format to the Devices.

The bug is fixed now

You can now view all 3 TV Channels.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Well I really don’t know what else you could do

I’m making a modified version of Rev A for you but I just don’t know if it will work as you want it.

Let me know if it works
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Newest Beta

Try out the Newest Beta code for Saturn Liberty™ High Definition Radio!

Now with 12Mbps! Bit rate

Install Saturn Liberty™ Desktop Mobile 2008 Beta 3 and select High Definition Radio

Please report bugs on the station and code to feedback@ardcorp.tv
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fredcatsmommy:
installed beta 3 to xv6700. while I can open the program and it tells me I have the latest software, when I hit the bar to select tv stations or the bar to select radio stations, no stations show up to select. I'd love to actually try your product; any suggestions?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Thanks for the feedback!

This problem can be cause by different situations. But to find out what is causing the problem please give me some info.

1 Are you using 3G or Wi-Fi?

2 What’s the internet speed that you are getting?

3 Did the page display any error? For Example: Service Error 400, Problem with Station or Channel Locator, Server Update in progress please comeback in 5 minutes.

4 can you navigate on the Saturn Liberty™ Mobile Website?

Please help me so I can help you ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fredcatsmommy:
1. Verizon data line

2. Have no idea

3. No error messages. First page displays fine. Pages for selecting tv or radio stations display everything but the stations; just a white box where the stations should be listed.

4. Yes, I could navigate the website, but when I tried to watch the tv stations and listen to the radio stations, my media player (Pocket Player) tried connecting but then said "connection failed."
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geodim:
This has got to be the worst web design I have ever seen. I was interested in your service, but then I looked at the site, got headache and closed it. Is an animated background REALLY necessary?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Thanks for the information.

I sent the report to the development team.

However while we get an straight answer

Let’s try to use “Windows Media Player” and see if you get the same problem.

To make the Station/Channel Locator reload.

Start SLDMB3, select the service you want and if you get the same problem Hold Tab on the White Area a menu will come out, select refresh frame or go to frame.

If that works , well you are having some problems with the ISP, and you should report as “slow navigation”

To test if the ISP could be the problem.

Plug your device to a PC with ActiveSync 4 or Windows Vista™

Set computer location to “Internet”

And try again using Saturn Liberty™ Desktop Mobile.

Usually we have this type of problems when the Internet Connection is too low.

For example:

If you use General Packet Radio Service (GPRS) it provides data rates from 56 up to 114 kbit/s which is below the minimum required internet to display the TV service because we require 256Kbps.

That’s why we recommend using Wi-Fi or 3G

Typically, they provide service at 1-10 Mb per second.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Well I’m sorry you don’t like the design of the Website, as for moving background, the movement of the background is very soft and we never got complains about it.

However if you have a suggestion for the web dev team.

Let me know or type it your self

feedback@ardcorp.tv

Or just click on the link on the website called “Web Bugs” which is located on the bottom left corner on the page.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cjmedina:
doesnt work on my htc advantage the page looks garlbed
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Can you please take a screenshot?

How to take screenshots
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fredcatsmommy:
I can use the wifi later when I'm home. I doubt, though, that the data rate is the problem; I use orb on my phone and have no problem streaming tv. In fact, orb test the stream rate; next time I use it I'll pay attention to what it says. What format are the streams, so that I can dissassociate those formats in PocketPlayer so they'll play in WMP?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
on TCPMP is named: Windows MetaFiles (asx, etc.)

and HTTP & MMS both are at the end.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Updated Thread!

Hello everyone!

I had to update the full Thread.:rolleyes:

Now you can find information regarding all Saturn Liberty™ Beta Programs on the main page :D

Also I added the Software update and fixes section with information regarding the common problems and the solutions.

:cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
You can get the Software on the main page

Or here

http://desktop.ardcorp.tv/mobile
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
That’s right , we boost the performance of your device so you can enjoy our services without problems

(or at least we try)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Please let us know what you want

We are going to release a premium channel under the RC1 code for mobile devices, but before we can release this channel we want your opinion on what you want.

What Type of content you want to see on this new channel?

We want your opinion on this matter, and remember your opinion does count with US

Things that you need to know about this new channel.

This channel will be Device Definition Only but it also will be a Saturn Liberty™ Desktop Only which means you can only access the channel using SLDM Beta 3 or newer.

Some of the things you will see on this channel.

Family Guy, Beast Wars, Sailor Moon, Marvel Movies, FOX Movies, Discovery Channel Shows, History Channel Shows and more.

We still don’t know what other partners will join us but we hope we will have more content on this channel.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Feedback, bugs, anything please report

Feedback, bugs, anything please report
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Saturn Liberty™ Device Definition TV | Release Candidate 2

A New TV Channel has born and it has all the goods from the Saturn Liberty™ Device Definition Team

New Code:

New Core for the Device Platform, now using the newest codec’s Windows Media™ 9 Video and Professional and optimized for Windows Mobile® 6.1 and 7.

Better Quality:

We have improved a lot the Device Definition Quality to give you the most beautiful picture quality that Windows Mobile® Devices can offer.

Less bandwidth:

Now the service will use less bandwidth while playing TV Channels, going down to 90Kbps or less without losing quality or performance.

And we put all this, into a Brand New TV Channel,

EXCLUSIVE

for mobile devices

Use your mobile device and try it now!

And one more thing….

Let’s make YouTube suffer!

Thanks to this brand new channel we are now open to get videos from you and put them on this new channel!

So if you want to upload your videos, send an email to services@ardcorp.tv with the subject Mobile Videos.

Add your Name, Age and Country and you will get a special account so you can upload your videos.

If you have 1hr video, don’t worry we don’t split it in 30 fragments like YouTube you will see your video as you uploaded.

Note: Please send the video with the highest quality possible so we can send it to the TV Channel, if the video presents pixel squares on the run play we won’t be able to broadcast it.

We hope you will enjoy this new channel and we want YOU to participate more on the Beta Program by giving us feedback and uploading videos.

Enjoy this New Channel and please let us know what you think of this new Channel and report any errors to feedback@ardcorp.tv

Warm Regards from The Saturn Liberty™ Device Definition TV Team.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
New WebSite

Also check out the new Saturn Liberty™ Home Page , now with information about all the Saturn Liberty™ projects.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] paulpax:
:D crap :D

just read through all the pages of this crap. guys, if you installed, you fell for the trick, it maybe installed adware on both your desktop and mobile, you also cannot uninstall, do hard reset. im just betting that this is a p2p app that will serve only its originator for malicious purposes.

:rolleyes: crap :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
well, I installed and it worked, but the browser you guys have made (I guess it's a PIE layer or something) is not compatible with XDA Flame (maybe the fault to bad direct draw drivers on flame). The display was crippled and frames were not where they should. Anyway I managed to click on some stuff and the magic came... Well I only found 4 TV channels, and tested one: was a bad movie :D

I may try again later, if the app is corrected (and not in fullscreen) and doesn't need CF3.5 anymore.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
I’m sorry to say but this is not adware or any other malware for both PC’s and Mobile Devices.

And why you say “you also cannot uninstall” , all the software has its own uninstall system built-in , the only build that came with one problem like this was Beta 2 which now doesn’t work anymore , because it expire a long time ago.

Beta 1, Fixed Beta 2 Installer, Beta 3 and the coming Release Candidate have the uninstall system.

As for: “I’m just betting that this is a p2p app” you are terrible wrong.

We do not support P2P file sharing programs.

Saturn Liberty™ Desktop and Desktop Mobile 2008 are applications designed to give easy access to the Saturn Liberty™ services (TV and Radio) with extra features such as pay-per-view, premium channels, premium extras and more.

The software for both platforms also improves the performance of the device by boosting up the device cache, making more efficient the browsing, etc...

So please feel free to install it and try it yourself, so you can see that we don’t do malware, we do software to give easy access to our services.

Remember each user has a different experience, one user may have a bug free experience with the software and server, another can have one problem with the software but not services and another can have problems on both.

That’s why we ask for feedback, so we can try to make a bug free experience for everyone.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
Some notes to help you understand why people are "affraid" of your app:

The name of that application is awfull : Saturn liberty, tm or not, hardly represents what that soft does.

Then, "Desktop mobile" : what the hell ? is it desktop or mobile ?

First beta did not look good, I guess (I didn't try them)

The website is pretty slow, does not offer any download link from desktop side, and the content you provide is hard (impossible) to identify. I tried it, but I still don't know what I watched.

You say you support stuff that are not out (was the case for IE8 when you started supported it) or worst completely unknown (how can you support WM7 ?), and you didn't answer to those questions. You should admit that looks weird.

I had other stuff in mind but can't remember now, anyway you should think of adapting both your website & product if you want to make money out of it one day.

edit: "The software for both platforms also improves the performance of the device by boosting up the device cache, making more efficient the browsing"

I, and I'm not alone, don't want unknown company to "improve" my device without telling me what is done EXACTLY.

Just that sentence from you looks really weird, and do not encourage to try your app.

Cheers

edit again: and now you advertise for a release candidate. When I went to download, the downloaded cab was beta 3. So where is the RC ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rangie:
Has anybody got this to work? If so how many tv channels, and what are they?

I'd try it but don't feel like hard resetting today.

There are lots of options for radio so I don't care if that works.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
maybe you could read the thread before asking such questions...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
1.- Saturn Liberty™ Is the name of the service (HD Radio,Device TV ,Digital TV,HD TV,etc..) Not the software.

2.- Desktop Mobile : We have a software for Standard PC’s named Saturn Liberty™ Desktop (http://desktop.ardcorp.tv) , so this version is the Mobile Device Version (Desktop from the original software , Mobile because of the target platform)

3.- The Website begin slow , I really can’t say why but I will ask for more speed on the server, as for the link, it has one option named: “Desktop Edition” on the Main Menu under “More Options”

4.- Support of new technology. Of course we support it, just because is not available for the general public doesn’t mean that is not there. For example back in 2004 we were supporting Windows Vista™ and we develop our code using Windows Vista™, it’s the same with Windows Mobile™ and Internet Explorer.

It’s called Partner Ship with Microsoft to develop software and services for the new technology.

5.- We don’t make money by selling the software or access to the services, we offer those complelty free for everyone, the way we make money is renting the platform to people with TV Channels or Radio stations.

6.- Beta 1 , yea it was a really bad approach from our side by trying to back port the Desktop Code to a mobile device, it was really unstable and it was I had to admit “Ugly”.

Beta 1 had a lot of errors and UI flaws.

7.- “Advertise for a release candidate” I didn’t say “Download Saturn Liberty™ Desktop Mobile 2008 RCx” , what we are testing now and releasing is the service “Saturn Liberty™ Device Definition TV RC2”

If you read the first page you will see, what its new and how we are asking for feedback on the Service.

All I said was on the upcoming RC1 which means it will be out soon.

Where you will see that?

Here.

On the website for Mobile Devices.

On the website for normal computers.

On Saturn Liberty™ Desktop Mobile 2008 Beta 3 updates section.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
You can try it out

use your mobile device and navigate to:

http://mobile.ardcorp.tv

We have 4 TV Channels

Beta Test Rc2

Beta Test CosmoVision

Beta Test AXN

Beta Test RC1

BTW: you dont have to perform a hard reset.

You can use Opera/PIE to view the public channels or install SLDM (which can be uninstalled ) to have access to more.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
Well it's not relevant neither :D

Well, imagine you improve that mobile version and it becomes better thant desktop version. Now you adapt it to the desktop, will you name it : Saturn liberty desktop mobile desktop ? I'm sure you see what I mean...

The slowness is no big deal anyway. As for the link, I was talking about a cab to download (something any new user will search for, at first), but I guess you can only go through mobile.

Well, as a developper myself it just sounded strange to me that WM7 sdk or whatever could be out.. but sure I may be wrong.

But do you really think they will pay you if nobody use the service ?

If so, good for you. If not, well it means that you need users to make money, as I wrote before ;)

My bad, all these terms are really confusing, you should make it more clear, but that's only my opinion.

Thanks for your answers and I hope you didn't miss my earlier report with a xda flame.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] illi:
Hmmm...kinda weird software. Installed on myTornado but the display is larger than my device's screen.

I'll give this one a pass.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Thanks for the feedback.

Here’s what happen with your device:

O2 XDA Flame Specs

Display

Display Type: color transflective TFT , 262144 scales

Display Resolution: 480 x 640

Display Diagonal: 3.6 "

Saturn Liberty™ Desktop Mobile 2008 Beta 3 works only on small screen devices. Like HTC Touch.

Beta 3 will only work on devices with:

Display Type TFT

Size 240 x 320 pixels, 2.8 inches

This is a limitation of the software itself.

There’s no problem with your device, in fact your device is more than better to run the software and the services.

This limitation will be over once we release the Release Candidate 1, later this month.

As for the software not using .NET, that won’t be possible, we have agreements with Microsoft® to use their technology on all our software.

As for full screen SLDM will continue to run like that, however once it has the settings for your device resolution it will work just fine.

Some users sending us feedback love the fact that the application will go full screen , because they didn’t like (on Beta 2) having the Windows Title bar all the time, that’s why on Beta 3 the UI changed now covering the entire screen providing only the options that the user needs.

Sorry for the inconvenient.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Thanks for the feedback!

Saturn Liberty™ Desktop Mobile 2008 Beta 3 works only on small screen devices. Like HTC Touch.

Beta 3 will only work on devices with:

Display Type TFT

Size 240 x 320 pixels, 2.8 inches

One more thing.

This software is intended for use on Windows Mobile® for Pocket PC and not Smartphone’s

So Windows Mobile Standard is not fully supported.

This limitation will be over once we release the Release Candidate 1, later this month.

Sorry for the inconvenient.

Meanwhile you can access the services using our website http://mobile.ardcorp.tv and once the RC build is out, you can download it from there.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
I guess you mean qvga. The size of the screen does not matter.

I was just asking not to use the latest CF3.5, because it has to be installed over WM6, where earlier .net frameworks are already built in.

Well, I as an example need the taskbar to be seen all the time (except of course while watching a movie), so maybe you could make it an option, this is easy.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] illi:
Thanks for replying. I'll keep track of your impending release.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Hi again.

You are right Beta 3 is qvga only. And the screen resolution matters a lot, because it was made ONLY for QVGA devices.

Beta 3 will look like a Picasso if you use it on VGA phones.

Because we are developing this software for Windows Mobile 7 and it already includes .NET 3.5, we can’t take the chance to have incompatibility issues by using older frameworks.

Some applications made for .NET 2 don’t work fine on WM7, and even some using .NET 3

And also, we recommend having the latest software updates on both devices and computers alike.

If you can describe a little more what’s your scenario for having this need of taskbar, while using Saturn Liberty™ Desktop Mobile, would be best so I can submit the request to the dev team.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
Saturn Liberty™ Desktop “Optional Components” is now Premium Extras!

Saturn Liberty™ Desktop “Optional Components” is now Premium Extras!

And because we want to make more cool software available for everyone, we release a new Premium Extra.

Saturn Liberty™ Premium Boot! Beta

This software updates the boot core of Windows Mobile™ and makes the operating system load faster*

It also changes the Loading and Boot logos with a custom version from our labs.

We hope you will enjoy this new software and remember it still on beta so if you want to help, send us feedback , bug reports and suggestions.

*You may see a faster boot time on some devices; the boot speed may not change on 300+Mhz devices.

Screenshots:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
where to download ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaT117:
To download.

Start Saturn Liberty™ Desktop Mobile 2008 Beta 3

On the updates section you will see one small area that says “Download Premium Boot Beta”