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[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] walkerx:
It doesn't it stores it all data on your device only - did email them providing a suggestion to have it so it acts like strava, runtastic, mapmyfitness etc where you can view on website if swap phones and then have it automatically pulled back to device. the google fit syncing is useless (not huawei's fault but googles) as after a while it deletes any tracking and just provides overall figures. plus GF is not accurate between watch, phone and website as they all show different stats.

at moment for me no - don't want to risk chance of it getting bricked or certain apps no longer working because of it as I use banking and authenication apps which take time to get them re-registered and working again.

They make excellent hardware, you can't deny that, both my watches are brilliant and not had any issues with them - it's just the few things that have made we wonder if to get another huawei. If I was guaranteed to not get a Huawei that would not rely on networks to provide the update, but instead got these from huawei on a regular basis (coming from using the nexus and pixel range i've got used to the frequent updates) I may get another huawei phone, but it also relies on the encryption and other issues being resolved for me.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] otonieru:
Am not gonna buy another one. Unless bootloader unlock method is re-provided.

I'll never buy a phone i can't root in day one.

If things remain unchanged from huawei side and there is no 3rd party (DC Unlocker etc) providing unlock method, i thing i'll just keep my P20 Pro for main camera,

And for daily driver, get something like, One Plus 7, maybe.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] walkerx:
Even if you don't root it day one, you still want that choice - all my old phones I rooted and installed different firmwares on except my Pixel XL and Pixel C (tablet) - even my G1 was flashed with different roms as they became available - my htc, lg and samsung devices all got rooted and flashed with different roms - even my tab 3 8" is still running using lineageos

I have also been looking at OnePlus and Pixel - And I'm more than likely going to go OnePlus as updates are good and phone is cheap and I know a few people who have them

I have my Mate 10 Pro which I would probably get rid off and use the P20 Pro as backup phone
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Gyre8:
Ditto! I'm waiting for something significant from the update (like 3rd Party notifications on AOD) before I move on from .152.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] streather:
As much as I like the p20 pro, huawei have stopped offering bootloader unlocks which has ended my interest in them.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mudnightoil:
Very happy with the hardware.

However I'd never buy another Huawei as long as their new policy of unlockable bootloader sticks. Worse, it seems they're not even going to provide sources anymore - a blatant violation of the GPL, apart from anything else.

No thanks. Shame, too. Their hardware is outstanding and innovative.

I still think the locked bootloaders are a sop to the US Government, to avoid further censure there.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] gd6noob:
I would probably not buy another Huawei.

I have owned OPO, Nexus 2, 3, 4, 5, Samsung S7 and my current Huawei P20 Pro.

I think I would either go back to OP or Google phone.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Currently own a Huawei P20 Pro and I previously owned a P10 Lite, and a Honor 7C. No more Chinese phones for me though. At first glance they are great but the bloatware, heavy photo processing, and bugs got to me. I miss BBos 10 and I wish there was an android alterative these days besides Iphone.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] smohanv:
Not until I am sure that bootloader unlock becomes available again.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Jonathan-H:
Mine is from O2, and it does not include O2 branding anywhere. Blame 3! They do it to a multitude of phones. It is probably in their terms and conditions.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] walkerx:
I blame Huawei and Three - Huawei for allowing phones sold without contracts and not purchased through the network operator to get re-customised by them. Outside of contract you should get the european model which does not get rebranded. As for Three they shouldn't be allowed to change the splash screen as all it is to get wifi settings working is to change a flag on a device, same way it is done with apple phones
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Would I buy another Huawei?

I'd rather eat my own foot.

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You won't see that until at least sales figures have been impacted and that's not exactly a certainty.

As it no less than a year in which time the P30 Pro will be out and even then it may still not come back.

This decision will kill Huawei devices from XDA.

No ROMs, no mods, no hacks.

Nothing.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] gm007:
I don't think Huawei will care about the 1% of people who root their phones and need to unlock the bootloader.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] smohanv:
Well said. It will not be interesting to many of XDA users wanting to enjoy several exploits.

How about this method to unlock bootloader. {Mod edit: Link to paid services website removed. Oswald Boelcke, Senior Moderator}
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Pixel devices from now on for me unless OnePlus decide to start using decent cameras, no OIS is just unacceptable for me..

Not sure on that tool lol. Looks a bit dodge. :laugh:
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] g_oral:
I wouldn't buy another Huawei because of locked bootloader and because of the UK C782 brand and no updates.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] golf60:
Great phone but with a locked bootloader a no go and it will be my last Huawei phone.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] pratik_193:
Exactly. Oneplus lacks a good camera config. Samsung touchwiz is ****. If oneplus drastically upgrades their camera setup, I am never moving away from oneplus.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] otonieru:
fortunately we can easily install gcam on oneplus.

but yes, their stock camera sucks.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] sunmaid:
Yes if it had the features I wanted ....don't care about rooting tbh don't see the point and updates seem ok.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] smohanv:
I agree. No point having a device not supporting OIS. Unlockable bootload is a must now days.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mihairimia:
No.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Dany21000:
For me no.

Hardware is good but software is very poor, sometimes I think i get an iPhone in my hand.

And their bootloader policy... No valid argument if like oneplus they provide a easy recovery method.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] bobsie41:
Yes.

Just bought a Huawei media pad to go with my beloved phone.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Is that on the list for DC unlocker?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] bobsie41:
Haven't opened it up yet, been busy.

I'll let you know when I start investigating.....not really bothered to be honest it will just be used for media.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Check DC unlocker to see it is on the list.

Quite possible as it's a tablet.

Can't believe the total ballache Huawei is causing and now they've got a CPU which by all accounts rivals the 845, which personally I don't believe to be true.

The CPU may be stronger but the GPU won't.

Saying that it's not going to beat their next one so, alls well

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Also not being able to remove ads, install ROMs.

It's not even android any more lol.

RIP Huawei (actually scratch the peace part, R will do)
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] walkerx:
there's also the issue with incompatibility with 3rd party launchers and live wallpapers (especially KLWP)

i'm just waiting to see if google also bring out a watch to rival the huawei watches as if they do i'll be getting one and i'm more than likely to switch my phone as well. Also trade in value for Huawei devices is bad, my Nexus 6 and my Pixel XL but had good trade in values years after purchase, while the huawei devices are less than a 3rd of the price.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Lawnchair and its Google feed.

Pretty much the best launcher there is.

If you an get it then pixel modded is so much smoother

If you're rooted then get swap torpedo

Then make sure you're using FHD in display, for some reason normal (lower 720i) breaks 60fps and it slows down the system, like it's not optimized or something?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] subhani:
All the third party launchers I tried work fine on mine, old software and new. I did have the wallpaper scrolling problem on some launchers but this is fixed in newer updates.

If you are using a third party app, it can be to fault for the scrolling wallpaper problem. 500 firepaper app scrolls fine for me. As does wallpaper craft.

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I've written up a note hand form of a list for this as this keeps being asked in one way or another.

I will definitely buy another Huawei flagship if they can improve on the below strengths and weaknesses. Some are unavoidable of course.

Strengths of the P20 Pro:

• Much cheaper on contract than any other phone with my network provider. P20 Pro 128GB is £48 per month for 24 months. (iPhone X 64Gb £78, S9+ £68, Pixel 2 XL 64GB £68).

• Narrowest profile of the Android phones making for decent one hand grip.

• Best battery of all flagships.

• Fastest charging of all 2018 flagships. This has been tested by reviewers online.

• Best telephoto lens of all flagships, no competition.

• Best extreme low light camera of all flagships

• AIS in telephoto and night shots best in class

• Superb bokeh effects

• Very attractive design from the back in twilight colour

• Fastest fingerprint scanner bar none

• Fastest face unlock bar none

• Infra red remote, becoming extinct these days.

• Desktop mode via HDMI. No docking station required.

• Excellent RAM management and allowing manual user control.

• Ability to hide navbar and use all of the notched 6.1" display. This is a big deal for me.

• True dual SIM functionality. Also quite rare in some regions.

• Unique and exotic. Uncommon. Lots of iPhones galaxies and even Pixels. But very few if any Huawei flagships out in the wild. It has a cool novelty factor amongst the sea of the usual suspects.

• Very attractive and bright display.

Compared to my old phone (Pixel 1):

• All of the above.

• Water resistance.

• Better speakers.

• Louder earphones with Dolby Atmos.

• Much larger storage capacity.

• Scrolling screenshot.

• Brighter display.

• Marginally better camera, but better in telephoto and night. Weaker in other areas.

Weaknesses:

Glass construction. This is a quality as well as a weakness. I still love it.

Chin AND notch!

No headphone jack.

Lack of 4k stabilisation.

Front facing camera permanent beauty mode and poor HDR.

Some apps like Google Photos are not optimised and sluggish.

EMUI is an iOS clone.

Poor warranty support.

No unlimited full quality photo upload.

Updates are later than Pixel but better than many other OEMs.

No daydream support.

As you can see, I have been as honest as possible. From the above weaknesses, the only REAL ones I care about is 4k stabilisation, lack of optimization in some apps and poor warranty support if compared to Apple and Google.

I would definitely get another Huawei, if they can offer the above three things. They will have the ultimate phone.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] walkerx:
Huawei have confirmed that KLWP, Google Live Wallpaper and any other non Huawei themed live wallpaper is not supported on the device, which is another reason for me not to get another huawei as KLWP is my wallpaper of choice.

This phone is feeling more and more like an apple device and not an android product and passed that comment back to them as we buy android to do what we want with it, not to have it locked down and basic stuff blocked.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Jonnibravo:
Well in response to the OP's question, it would be a no. The phone is very attractive great camera but I fail to see what more is good about this phone compared to other flagships. I'm throughly disappointed with this phone and it will probably be going back to Vodafone if I can't reconcile the really awful music player. The sound is so dull. The thing is I got so much data it might actually be worth tolerating till I can save for a LG G7. The worst thing is the UI it just simply awful, like the Chinese version of HTC Sense or a poor man's MUIU.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] subhani:
I don't use KLWP but I have installed it and loaded a preset and set it as wallpaper.

It scrolls fine and is showing the relevant information. What should I be looking for?

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Battery life? Amongst a few other things...
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] walkerx:
Well I've got loads of KLWP presets and if they are one page only they work, if you have to add more screens for the transitions they do not work and I'm not the only one with this issue. Even Huawei are stating KLWP is not supported.

Are you running CLT-L29 8.1.0.131(C782) or have you actually rooted the phone and put a different rom on or just using a different firmware as every firmware is different for this phone.

As for some of your comments about strengths for the phone

P20 Pro 128GB for £31pm, Pixel 2 XL 128GB for £44pm, S9+ 128GB for £38 pm, so not sure which sites you looking at for pricing

It's nice but not a reason to buy the next device

Don't use it

Not needed in this day and age, so just a gimmick, you have BT or Wifi for controlling devices

Don't use it and have no need to use it

The manual user control is mainly for preventing apps being killed as the phone is aggressive in doing this

You still can't use the top, but I agree it looks better when camouflaging the notch

Agree on this, the dual sim functionality is good and more devices should incorporate this

I don't think the phone is unique and exotic, if anything it tries to be an iphone clone and doesn't really suit android and their devices aren't uncommon.

It has a nice display but it's not that bright and in some conditions it is very hard to see. The automatic brightness kicks in, even if you constantly disable it.

I agree it has a good camera but on some types of photos the iPhone X photos look better, even with AI disabled on the Pro the photos aren't always brilliant, and it can't do 960fps as they state. Also the battery is great and I charge daily due to usage but lasts longer than my Pixel XL did.

There are a lot of apps that don't work properly on this device, but it all depends on which you use as you might use some apps that others don't use, but this is a big thing for me as quite a few apps that I use I can't with this device or my mate 10 pro.

And you can have full quality photo upload, just use flickr or onedrive, you could even invest in plex and have your photos uploaded directly to your home device.

Overall Huawei make good hardware, but they have poor software to compliment it and they have too many apps and features that don't work that you would expect to work in a flagship device
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Jonnibravo:
Not having too much luck with battery it seems poor at the moment. When I don't use the phone it's great but as soon as I start to use it the battery drains. Even with the screen off listening to my audiobooks it used 13% in about an hour my LG would use half that without screen time. Might try a wipe as I copied all my apps off old phone to p20.

Firefox browser is buggy on this device some pages struggle to load if at all on random sites, although when it does work its super fast unlike chrome which seems slow all the time. I've tried on v30 no such problems.

Im really confused by this phone, is it the developers or the phone. And occasionally pages on chrome appear to load in stages pushing the page down as you try to read, 4g isn't available in areas it would normally. And swift keyboard adds extra words I didn't type when swiping. The most buggy experience I've had with a phone since the g1 which turned out to be a very good phone. I've a feeling this phone is not going to be like the though.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] vizzy:
First time I have not had a HTC in 8 years or so. It was between this and the OnePlus, but the fact the 6t is out soon and my 6 would be out dates in a month made me get the p20.

So far, battery life is solid and one reason I chose the phone as I'm bored of charging my old HTC twice a day.

Have not tested the camera really get, but I'm hoping it proves a success!

A shame I cannot root due to missing the bootloader unlock from Huawei, but in a way it's a good thing. I used to spend far to much time flashing different ROMs seeing bugs etc.

Overall, I'm happy but next time I would like to get a OnePlus at release week or potentially try a different brand like LG if they put a larger battery in their devices.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] subhani:
As I said, KWLP with animations and scrolling animations that spread across three or five screens behind my widgets work just fine. I quite like the app because I hadn't heard of it until you mentioned it wasn't working for you. I'm not sure how many other apps simply don't work for you like you say. I am not rooted. I have not had this problem on .152 .156 and now EMUI 9 Android Pie. My model is CLTL29 C432.

The numbers and prices you cite above support my position that this is the lowest priced flagship of 2018 offered by major network providers in my country. Not sure if you misunderstood.

The other points I'm not gonna address as I feel you are beyond the point of being convinced otherwise. Have a good day.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] walkerx:
Your KLWP may work on your device, but it doesn't on the CLT-L29 C782 model, which is the UK Version and is only on firmware 131. and Huawei have confirmed that non Huawei live wallpapers are not supported especially KLWP and Google Wallpapers.

If I use Nova or stock launcher the transitions will not work if require multiple screens in launcher. If the wallpaper is on 1 page only it works for certain ones, but others it won't.

The prices I mention are for the UK, so as said not sure where you are getting your pricing from or for which country, but even if it is the cheapest device that is not to base it's strength on, it's the usability and experience of the device that provides it's strength. But when looking at your list, it comes across as though you are pitching a sale.

Overall the only good things with the device are camera and battery, but even then the camera still needs improvements.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
So cool to see the level of detail that people will go to, to slate this horrendously, beautiful device.

(How's that possible?)

Never again, I think, will echo!!!! XDA is done with Huawei. ,,l,

Huawei can't do this again, no one will stand for it.

Period!!.

#nblulfu

;)
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] subhani:
As I said, this is getting a bit exhausting and maybe I will leave it be at this post, but the app you mention is working fine for me. Both Nova and KLWP operate correctly for what you are describing.

My phone is the exact same model as yours. I converted mine to be non carrier locked European C432 from original C782. I got mine from EE here in the UK too. Those were the advertised prices on EE's website at the time I purchased it. Yes I got it for even less. The point was that if you wanna buy a top end flagship phone, with a great camera, bright display, great speakers and awesome battery life, at the lowest price on contract, the P20 Pro is where it's at.

If you think buying price isn't a factor for deciding what phone to buy, then I don't know what you're smoking. In fact, camera, design, price, battery life, are likely the most sought after aspects of a new phone that people use as a criteria. Amongst others like brand appeal, size in hand and storage space. Of which, the P20 Pro nails two.

But you do you, boo. You do you.

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I wish I could understand what you're saying, LOL.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
What I'm saying is.

We have a truly beastly device. It's fantastic.

But it's got so many flaws that it just has to be ridiculed.

The Bootloader, the bloat, the os, the root method.

It's just broken.

I didn't realise how hated Huawei is till now

I really want to love this phone but I just can't and I agree with the people who avoided it.

I wish I'd have researched it first. I would have laughed and stood clear of it.

I'd now have a HTC 12 With some 15 ROMs.

(Is that clear enough???)

I resent this phone with every breathe but at the same time I love it

Such a stressful device.

1.5 ROMs

Slate means - tear into, hate, ridicule, disgust.

When I said never again will echo!! I meant others will say the same.

The P30 Pro will be a desolate place, which is a terrible shame.

What have they done.

Lol the hashtag??

Haha I'll let your imagination guide you!! Bootloader is in there though!

BL....

Nblufu??? No?

No Boot loader unlocking.... Fu ?? Lol
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] subhani:
This really only affects a very small number of people, and sure this is not something Huawei should ever have done but the market shows that they are only getting more successful. The P20 Pro put Huawei on the global map in a big way, I think. People sat up and noticed it. None of Huawei's previous phones got the reviews that this device did.

The bottom line is, there are some things that are objectively great with this device, if not better than the competition. I have listed a few of them. Lack of BL unlock is also objectively one of the bad things. But the good affects an enormous amount of people compared to the statistically insignificant few that are affected by the lack of an unlock method. Let's keep perspective here guys. Think about it...when we see the mainstream community review this device, lack of bootloader unlock isn't even one of the negatives. Why? Because for nearly everyone, things like camera, display, design, battery life, speed and price are what matters. Ergonomics, security, storage, etc etc. Lack of a 3.5mm jack or an SD card slot is what people care more about. Not bootloader unlocks. Sheesh!

Ultimately, those who need such functionality will get some other device. But see Samsung? They also took similar decisions but are still the world's largest manufacturer. Then Huawei and Apple... all whom we know are more closed than the alternatives that people would go with, if they wanted customisation and greater control. Choice will always exist. Huawei just isn't one of them.