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[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] P650SE:
I bought two separate phones from China and wasn't required to pay customs duty to the UK on either of them. The first phone was a ZUK Z2 that I bought on Banggood and the second was a ZTE Axon 7 that came from AliExpress. It only took 5 days for the latter to arrive and that was with the standard free shipping option. :D
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] pabgar:
You were lucky - in simple words
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] P650SE:
I know quite a lot of people in the UK who have bought phones from China and not had to pay customs duty. :) Maybe it just depends on the country. Both of the websites I bought from marked the device as an 'MP3 Player' on the customs deceleration label and put the value at about $17 USD. They also tick the checkbox that says 'Gift' since I think customs duty doesn't apply to presents.

Providing you choose the slowest free delivery option (eg. China Post) you shouldn't have too much trouble. The problem comes when you pick an express service such as DHL since those are more prone to customs checks.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Damoedge:
Hi all,

I bought mine today on Sunsky I took the jump lol...what you need to know is this..It's not 3/4 days delivery to Ireland or UK is 3/4 lead time as in them getting the phone ready to ship out...So still expect the usual 2/3 weeks before it's delivered....that's why your paying 280 and not 400 patience lads ;)

I'm experienced in buying things from China and if you want to avoid paying customs and taxes always use Post NL ! Never use DHL never! as they collect taxes and keep it in there bank account to make interest and then at the end of the year they pay all the taxes and customs due to the state. DHL make a lot of money in doing this...when they see China or anywhere else outside the EU they will take the customs and taxes due and sometimes they will even charge you for doing it...this is fact!

On Sunsky Post NL is €9 which is good coming from China and avoiding customs and taxes.

The phone is nearly sold out on flipkart in India and probably will soon on Sunsky.

I would say that Aliexpress will have a lot of these phones in a few weeks and they might be even cheaper than 280 .

Use kimovil to compare prices there, I see bangood have it there for 350 so that's a big jump from 280.

I recently bought a Huawei honor v10 ...I only got it Saturday...I'm going to sell it because the bootloader can not be unlocked and can't be rooted. This Poco Phone looks very promising development wise so I'm looking forward to getting it in a few weeks :)

Happy Poco hunting
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Timmmmaaahh!:
I believe it's important to note that the version on offer on Sunsky is the "lowest" end of the pack being 6GB + 64GB. I have more interest in the middle section with 128GB or even their top tier with 256GB; depending on its price. I'll wait until there are some more mainstream purchase channels. I'm really excited about this device though!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] mili2110:
Since the Poco F1 has an microSD card slot there is really no need to go for the bigger options. Just buy a 64gb microSD for 20$. Also its easier to flash custom roms with a microSD (files like picture, videos etc can stay on the SD and internal storage can be formated)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Damoedge:
So true, 6g ram is enough for 2018 and more and as for storage 64 is a lot as it is...SD card is the best thing for flashing and a lot of people have a SD card already...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Timmmmaaahh!:
[MENTION=4287864]mili2110[/MENTION] Ah yes, excellent point. I'm so used to not having that feature on OnePlus One, I didn't even consider an sdcard slot :D [MENTION=2524099]Damoedge[/MENTION] is very right as well. Thanks to the fabulous RAM management of Android there is absolutely no need for 8GB today.

Still, as I currently own my OPO nearly 4 years; those 8GB do appeal to me as I'll probably still be using them in 2022 :p
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] P650SE:
I agree that microSD is good for flashing; but I prefer internal storage since it is faster in most cases, more reliable, less messy (everything in one place, rather than two!) and can be encrypted without any hassle. I know on most phones there's an option to encrypt microSD as part of the internal storage, but I could never get my head around it on the Axon 7.

For example; once the SD card is encrypted, how do you copy files to it since it disappears from all of your file managers? I realise it's supposed to be 'combined' with your internal storage but where is the freedom in choose what files go where? I would rather just spend the extra money and save myself a massive headache. :)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] thesoupthief:
If the bleeding edge pixel 3 is about to launch with 4gb and 64gb internal storage without an SD slot, I think I might scrape by with a 6/64gb Poco with the same processor and pop in my 128gb super fast SD card formatted as adoptable storage (for a lot less than half the price)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] 4duros:
I also bought one on SunSky yesterday Thursday 23th http://bit.ly/PocoF1SunSky for about 300 EUR via DHL.

Today chatted with their support for customize the Customs declaration invoice, and they telled me that will start receiving units on Tuesday 28th, on black, at the moment. Worlwide launch will be the day before, Monday 27th.

In the meanwhile, ordered several TPUs and tempered glasses from AE:

Xiaomi Pocophone F1 Case Xiaomi Poco F1 Case Silicone Soft TPU Phone Case BLACK

http://bit.ly/PocoF1TPUBKAE

High Quality TPU for Xiaomi Pocophone F1 Case Transparent Soft Silicone Clear Shockproof Xiaomi Poco phone F1 Cover

http://bit.ly/PocoF1TPUTRAE

ZiQi 2Pcs For Xiaomi Pocophone F1 Tempered Glass 9H 2.5D Premium Screen Protector For Pocophone F1 5.99" Glass Film

http://bit.ly/PocoF1TGBKAE

2PCS MAIJIEKE 9H Screen Protector Film For Xiaomi PocoPhone F1 Tempered Glass for PocoPhone F1 Protective Glass Tempered

http://bit.ly/PocoF1TGTRAE

Tic, tac, tic, tac....
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] mundano:
From what is known until now, the MiBand 3 NFC will be useless outside of China. It seems to be only compatible with MiPay and transport tickets in China cities.

I see many people assuming that a phone without NFC + MiBand 3 NFC, would equal a phone with built in NFC, but that seems far from the reality.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] thesoupthief:
Yeah, that's why I said "might". I guess we only get to see for sure when someone reviews one outside China
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] pmjoc:
Anyone got a decent case for the poco?

The one that comes in the box isnt up to much, been looking for a leather one.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] le Corb 123:
Hey guys can you help me out real quick, so im also from ireland and ordered my poco f1 off Aliexpress about 10 days ago and i made the mistake of paying for DHL shipping..... anyways they sent me a message instantly, which i didnt think of reading, saying that because of custom taxes (which i must pay) they usually set the product cost to 45$ and if i dont reply in 24 hours they will set it to this. My biggest concern now is that if they set it to this will my package be seized? and will i have to show proof of receipt? ( for 45$). Can anyone recommend what I should do, Thanks.

P.s 1.I did not reply as i did not read the message entirely as i thought it was an automated message thanking me for purchasing the item.

2. The item still hasn't been finished being processed and shipped out and was delayed due to a 3-day holiday they have in China, so it could still take a few more days.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Damoedge:
What is the $45 for? Is it what the seller is stating on the invoice what you paid for the phone? Or is it DHL saying that is the set price you have to pay for customs and taxes?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] le Corb 123:
Hi,Yh based on the message i got from them i think that they are referring to the amount that was paid for the phone?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Damoedge:
The seller wouldn't normally do that on Ali unless you asked them to do so...(mark down the price)

Are you sure it's not the amount of customs and tax you have to pay DHL on delivery? If you want you can PM me the details and I will see what it means...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] le Corb 123:
Yh its strange cause they sent them two messages (about 45$) to me without me contacting them at all.

so im a bit confused,ill pm you the details, thanks
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] sanjay0501:
Reducing the price on custom declaration and marking it as a gift is standard practice for AliExpress. I have rec'd multiple phones with prices as low as 10% of the actual price and marked as gift but the sellers usually mark it as electronic Accessories or some such thing.

If this is the case with u also, then u should be safe as DHL at least here in India gives their own manifest to customs and pays duty directly and then charges from the customer.

If it is correctly described as poco F1 mobile phone then it is a different matter altogether.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] nickislauw:
Still don't have mine.. tracking still stuck since 7th of september, been almost 3 weeks now. Sunsky is barely replying to me anymore and my PayPal dispute is still open.. I'm praying for my money but my advice for everybody is to stay away from this fraud company. Nothing but evil for me. First and LAST TIME!!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Marti9t9:
If it's any consolation, mine would have arrived exactly 3 weeks after ordered if it hadn't have been held up by customs in Dublin. Maybe stock levels dropped after I bought mine. They tried marking the package with a value if $15 but they put a sticker on it with the make model and spec of phone. That would be my only issue with Sunsky.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] le Corb 123:
Hi, yh im after understanding what they did now, its been shipped now anyways so im just going to have to wait the next few days and hope for the best. Thanks
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] allend66:
Arrived yesterday, twelve days after purchase. Delivered to the door, no duty to be paid.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Marti9t9:
Where do you live? That seems to be priced at 328 today?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] allend66:
Live in Birmingham, West Midlands. Courier was DPD. 328 might be Euros? I paid Stirling.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Marti9t9:
That would be the reason alright!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Optimus_Otus:
So I just finally ordered the phone (blue, 128, 333€) from gearbest. I hope that was a good choice and that they will deliver, chose the EU priority Line however without the extra insurance in the end. Lets wait and see now.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] nickislauw:
To give you a quick update: Still no package,sunsky is ignoring me now and Paypal is still judging the case. Let's pray for my money because I think this phone will never arrive anymore.. it's been nearly 4 weeks now. I'm pissed as hell
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] aadvandersteeg:
Eglobal center is safe I bought mine 8 working days (10 actual days) ago for €299,99 without import tax or shipping costs from Hong Kong to the Netherlands with DHL and bpost
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] gie62001:
I bought from eglobalcentralUK 128 GB at £276 and received it in 4 days. Awesome service. No taxes or important duties.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] karpacha:
I've ordered a global poco 6/64 phone on 19th of september from aliexpress for 320€ via DHL. No tax or import duties.

I've tested it for common issues immediately and everything is working fine. No touch lag, no keyboard typing problems and no screen bleed (or at least I don't see it).
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Babysaur:
256gb version?

Any news on a new batch of armoured ones? I've been meaning to buy an 8gb version but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Today I got an email from flipkart telling me they are selling it again, however if I buy from there I'll certainly pay taxes here in Sweden.

Also, an Indian friend told me that he, himself, doesn't buy anything online from India because couriers DO open your package and DO fiddle with them. So, naturally, I'm looking for other sources but can't seem to find one at all.

Any ideas? Thanks!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] gongoscho:
POCO F1 (Armoured Edition, 256 GB) (8 GB RAM)

hi,

i am also interested to buy the Armoured Edition in Europe. I also found only the version in india. Directly from Mi India or Flipkart.com.

grEEtZ
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] sanjay0501:
Exceptions can't be made into rules.

None of the reputed ones will indulge in this kind of a practice of opening parcels.

Some obscure cheap couriers do that
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] jperkovic:
Did anyone order from eglobalcentral.eu? How long did you wait for the order to arrive and did everything go well? Thanks.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] gie62001:
All went really well. Delivered to the UK in around 3-4 days. No customs. 128 GB. Best phone ever!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] miimaa:
I'm thinking of buying the armored version from Flipkart, India. What do you think, will it work in Finland? I'm about to root and flash a custom rom right away.

But is there something with hardware that won't work here?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] heinhuiz:
AFAIK, Flipkart only delivers inside India. Did you manage to register?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] miimaa:
Damn. Didn't even try.

Thanks for info.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] gongoscho:
I hope there would be possible in the future to order the Armoured Edition for europeans :o
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] onairda:
possible that there is no trace of the 8/256 version other than India?

and I could not find a way to buy it from there :crying:
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] heinhuiz:
Correct. My guess is that demand for the other versions is so high they have trouble keeping up in production. It isn't even mentioned on the official product page anymore.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] onairda:
Is there any good soul that lives in India :angel: that can buy me the red 8/256 version between the 6th and 8th of December when it is also discounted and send it to me in Italy?

Obviously I would pay all the costs of the case.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] G4B33:
In Hungary, the 64gb version costs 350€
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] P650SE:
I'm going to wait for Nillkin to release a case for it. I have their 'Frosted Shield' case on my ZUK Z2 and it's really good. I dropped it onto tarmac once and the phone survived without a single scratch. :D

I hope the tempered-glass screen protectors will fit properly without the ugly 'halo' effect around the edges. That 2.5D glass is something that really annoys me about modern smartphones. I miss the days of my OnePlus One and LG G4 that could take a tempered-glass screen protector and look just as good at the same time. I don't even bother with screen protectors now because they're too much hassle and Gorilla Glass tends to prevent most scratches.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] pmjoc:
Hi [MENTION=2524099]Damoedge[/MENTION], Im thinking of buying this for use in Ireland also. Do you know if this is compatible with the Irish mobile networks?

Does GAPPS & google play store normally come loaded when buying phones from sunsky do you know?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] digweed4me:
is this compatible with tmobile lte here in usa?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] thesoupthief:
Hi, the F1 has 4g coverage in Ireland with 3/O2, Meteor & Vodafone. All covered for 3g also (data here https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_pocophone_f1-9293.php and here https://signalsolution.novatel.ie/irish-operators-and-frequencies )

Not sure if it will come with Google Play - probably will since it's the international version though I can't see it stated explicitly on the SunSky website. On the off chance it isn't, installing Google services should be a trivial matter
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] pmjoc:
Thanks man, appreciate it. By any chance could you tell me if it works for canadian 3G/4G network bands also?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Lycidias:
Anyone knows what's the Best site to Import to germany? Any experiences with taxes vs shipping methods?

For example at sunsky

Thanks
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] thesoupthief:
Just found an interesting website with this info - searches by country and by phone https://www.frequencycheck.com/coun...ocophone&q[device_brand_id_eq]=&commit=Search
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Alejo The Media:
Is sunsky reliable?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] P650SE:
Why not search Google for some reviews? I always use Tristpilot to find feedback on a website. Generally the reviews seem to be positive but there are a few negative too. From a total of 276 users, the ratings distribution is:

Excellent - 78%

Great - 6%

Average - 1%

Poor - 0%

Bad - 14%

It is very tempting to order from Sunsky at the current price, but I'm going to wait until after the 29th when it should start appearing on other websites. My intention is to buy from AliExpress if it's cheaper there.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] pmjoc:
Thanks for this. The 2 different versions score very differently, and weirdly enough the global version scores much worse than the other one. I like the look of this phone, but need it to function in both countries so may hold off until the picture is clearer.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] heinhuiz:
The specs for the armoured version are wrong, they didn't include 3G and 4G/LTE. You can safely assume that the bands on both versions are the same.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Damoedge:
Hi there,

Yes it is compatible with all network bands here mate....you can check here along with more info about the phone....

https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-pocophone-f1

Also just send them a message that you want Google play store on the phone and a global Rom too ;)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] heinhuiz:
Mimarket.es also has the 6GB/128GB version: https://www.mimarket.es/catalogsearch/result/?cat=0&q=pocophone
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] thesoupthief:
I'd imagine different Canadian networks might use different bands, leading to the apparent discrepancy. Check out the frequency/band of the network you plan to use and work from there
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] heinhuiz:
The (non-armoured) 8/256 version is now offered on Gearbest for over €500: https://www.gearbest.com/Pocophone-_gear/
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] thesoupthief:
Ooh! Interesting! I just looked at this link, thinking they were shipping from Spain (within the EU, so taxes would be paid). Looks like they ship from China, and my Spanish ain't scorchio so I couldn't check their international delivery and tax policies. Anyone know how they roll?

Their help pages seem to suggest the are no customs charges within the EU, but it's not clear
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] temorin_:
Is there any difference between normal version and the armored one in terms of protection? I really like the red one, but if armored one provides better protection, i might get that one instead
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] heinhuiz:
The only difference is the body, which is made from Kevlar on the armoured edition instead of polycarbonate. Kevlar is stronger, and although it will not stop a bullet, it will be more scratch resistant than the normal one. You won't need to use a back cover. Also, the Kevlar body is reported to have a better grip than the plastic one.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Timmmmaaahh!:
Those cases may be obsolete though. I've noticed in the unboxing videos that there's one already included in the box. I'm pretty sure it'll meet or even exceed AE's quality standards :p

---------- Post added at 03:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:38 PM ----------

According to Geekyranjit on YT it's not worth the extra money as it feels just as plastic-y.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] temorin_:
Well on Sunsky it costs the same as the red one, so i'd rather get the armored one, as it is more tough. I think. But it's out of stock unfortunately, so i'll have to wait :(
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Turina:
Kevlar version is also heavier.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Meia:
They ship from China via regular registered post.

Have no experience buying from them but this is what I can find on their site.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] heinhuiz:
Yes.

5 grams.

187 vs. 182 g.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] thesoupthief:
So likely buyers would be liable for import duty if customs picked it up
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] smokemeakipper:
Hi all.

I ordered poco F1 from sunsky yesterday. Never ordered from them before.

I hope the handset is as good as the reviews say. It's been a long time coming that a phone makes the general public realise that they have been ripped off for years by the big phones companies.

It was nice to see that there was an BBC artical about the phone. More free publicity. ?

The phone is for my wife's birthday. So the question is, do I test it before I let "precious" go. ?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] suljadin:
I'm right now doing checkout just to check shipping info and: "Shipping type

Royal Mail UK WH Express

Delivery time 2-15 Days FREE € 0.00"
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] delbeetle:
Tesco mobile too? Ireland

So, it should work on Tesco mobile in Ireland too?

After all it is unlocked,

Otherwise I'll have to switch to avail of 4g as Tesco don't do it yet & their 3g is slow.

Where to buy & when to expect it?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] heinhuiz:
What about reading the thread before you ask?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] thesoupthief:
As far as I can see it should work just fine on the Irish networks. And, are you sure Tesco mobile don't use 4G? I thought they did - their website suggests they do. Important to know as I'm on the brink of switching to them
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] delbeetle:
Last time I spoke to them, which was recently, they told me they're in the process of getting 4g & couldn't give me a date. Their 3g is not great in some rural areas but generally quite good overall & I think the cheapest!

Might buy Pocophone F1 from sunsky. Definitely getting it from somewhere - amazing specs!

?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Greeniaris:
hey everyone

On mimarket.es it is cheaper than anywhere. The 128gb 329 euros with free shipping. Royal mail carrier. Does anybody know if they ship worldwide because you can't change the language on their site. But when I tried to buy it in the shipping options you could choose any country. Also, do you know what happens with taxes from this site.

Thankssss
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] ayyaliens:
People never learn

I strongly advise against buying off any Chinese websites that ship from HK/China/Taiwan. Not only are there huge risks with the delivery because most Chinese shops don't offer Shipping services with tracking but you will also have to deal with a 19% import tax + Further shipping allowance expenses. Wait a few days until European sellers have stock and buy it there instead of risking hundreds of €.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] thesoupthief:
Very strange - I'm looking at their website - it claims they offer the same 4G network access as on the rest of the Three network (at least, once you're on the €15 prepay plan or better). Since they run on the Three network, which now includes the O2 network at they bought them out a couple of years ago, they should have the best 3&4g network in the country- better than Meteor or Vodafone

I'm currently on the €10 3g plan with 48 cos I have WiFi access almost everywhere, but was thinking of shifting to Tesco once I get my fancy pants Poco
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] delbeetle:
Thanks. I've got to check that out.