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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evilc:
I suppose it all depends on whether it decompresses before you select it into the DC or not, as don't all PNGs have compression? (lossless?)

Anyway, it was just an idea, a bit pointless flogging a dead horse, and i just realised you can specify an x/y coord for each frame, so you could do full screen animations without needing progressive frames.

One more suggestion then:

Allow the author of an mwc file to specify which frame to loop back to when it reaches the end. You might not want to loop back to frame 1 if you want your animation to have a "lead-in".

An example of an application for this would be one of the clock style round wait cursors you see where one of the 12 "ticks" is opaque and the previous 2 or 3 are slightly transparent (to make it look like the main tick is leaving a trail). With my suggestion the first couple of frames would have to be different to the main loop as the first frame should be just one tick but no semi-transparent previous ticks would be present. Hard to explain...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
I perfectly understand you explanation. Thanks for pointing it out. Actually I already thought about it during the first steps of the MWC development but I had to focus my attenction to the main features.

Maybe in the feature I'll implement those two features:

1. Set the coordinates for each frame

2. Allow to cicle to a non-first frame

Many thanks for the suggestion, evilc :)

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evilc:
Here is my wait cursor - StarTrail.

The pictured shape but animated - one point is visible at any one given moment, and the last two that showed are partially transparent leaving a "trail".

Currently without being able to loop back to a different frame other than 1, the trail has to dissapear at the end and reappear at the start, but I have done this gracefully (takes a couple of frames to fade out rather than just resetting)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Thank you for your contribute, evilc! :)

By the way... MWC 2.1 is about to be released! :p

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evilc:
Thanks!

Will 2.1 allow me to loop back to somewhere other than the first frame?

Feel free to include any of the cursors I make in the installer!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
The 2.1 version will only have some minor bug fixes. To implement the new features will not be so immediate. I'm sorry.

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] antognio:
Hi Marshall could you add support to vga screens, 640x480?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shadowmike:
Hi, I have a t-mobile shadow / HTC Juno smartphone. running a custom 6.1 rom and the config app closes within 4 seconds and it just refuses to run. I have not tried on the default 6.0 rom.

My question is, is this a ppc app only ? and are you planning on making a smartphone version ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Do you mean support for the config tool? because the cursor itself should display correctly in VGA devices, too.

In the 2.1 version the config app bug is fixed. Also, the app will work in smartphone devices, too but the config tool is not yet compatible with them. So you'll have to change the cursor and the other settings from the registry (under HKCU\Software\Marshall\MWC2) and soft-reset.

I plan to add support for the config tool in smartphones in the next releases.

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] piper_indebt:
Shinchan MWC2 Icon

Hello to all.

This is a very nice software, I converted a gif of Crayon Shinchan, and Im using

this naughtyl little kid as my wait cursor. If anybody interested, just download the attached file and copy to your MWC2 folder and select Shinchan in the MWC2 menu.

Rock on everybody :) or dance like Crayon SHinchan
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sathya:
Hi Marshall

R u supporting WM 2003SE devices??when i try to install...it says instalation failed..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zmob123:
Small cursor

I have a diamond and it is vga 480x640 and the cursors are tiny. Any way to fix that?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gronostaj:
Just make a bigger cursor :) If you've got bigger resolution, the dot is smaller and cursor too :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] piper_indebt:
You may want to customize the icons by resizing them to suit your diamond, Im not sure about the size though that will be optimal for the diamond.

I have just finished customizing one icon "SHinchan" and it just hit me, If I could make an Icon full screen for my Elf, it would be like those effects in some games wherein you'll see some static, blurry, flashy images, Im thinking of Manhunt 2-ish kind of effects. Anyway, I'll try what I can and post it here if anybody is interested. Hey Marshall, nice apps, the best, I'll post my customized icons for everyone to use
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evilc:
I thought of doing some full screen stuff myself, but I think it may be quite resource hungry and it is a wait cursor after all, so resources are low when it is to be used - bear that in mind ;)

Saying that, I would guess that if the blit routine is at all optimised, then totally transparent pixels would not slow it down, so I was thinking of making one that is basically all transparent, but animate a line sweeping around the border.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] anheuer:
Will it run on a WM 6.1 with VGA screen ?? (touch diamond)

and will the icons be a nice size then?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Hi everybody...

I've been so busy those weeks and I couldn't dedicate enough time on MWC2. From tomorrow I should have more free time and finally I'd be able to release MWC2.1. :)

I'm planning to release a

"VGA" cursors pack

, too. Also the

website

will be restyled.

I'd like to thank piper_indebt for his wonderful waitcursor. Do you mind if I include it in a future cursors pack?

Evilc, your idea of a fullscreen waitcursor is so good! I also tried in the past to make a "matrix" like waitcursor but it'll require a couple of MBs of RAM and not all evices will like this. Please, keep you idea up! ;)

Thanks to everybody who is contribuiting to MWC2 with tips, ideas, cursors or simply showing their appreciation!

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teixeirabmb:
Finally we will have VGA cursors!!

Thank's for your work Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skilty:
Hi Marshall

Great app, was using it on my HTC Trinity, but i've now upgraded my rom to 6.1 and i'm having a few problems with it. When i launch the config it just says "can't open config file" then closes. Sorry for being a noob if this has already been answered..... but can any help me find out where i'm going wrong??

EDIT: right sort of got it working, it just about gives me enough time to pick a cursor and save it in the config before it closes... soft reset and it works......GREAT! nice work again Marshall, looking forward to 2.1
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] HaiLe512:
Marshall...thks

Marshall,

thanks for the nice program. It is working on my TC now. The config does not work but I can change it via registry setting so it is not a big deal. Thks.

Below is the cursor iWait if anyone wants it...enjoy n remember to thank Marshall for this wonderful program.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darebak666:
..great app!

..here is my cursor
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Fantastic!

Thank you HaiLe512 and darebak666 for your cursors. Do you mind if I put them in a future Cursors Pack?

EDIT: HaiLe512, please edit the conf.mwc file and add the line "

frame=08.png

" which is missing.

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] HaiLe512:
Edited the conf.mwc file and add missing "frame=08.png". Thks.:p

Please go ahead and put it in your cusors pack. Thks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darebak666:
yes of course, you can use it and also modify if you want.. ;)

..here is my previous one little bit updated, also i am planning to make another, some funny one, so I will post it here when done..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evilc:
Just thought of an issue with this idea:

The cursor would be screen res dependant. If I make the cursor for portrait mode (240x320), it will not work right in Landscape mode (320x240). Now for a lot of cursors, rotating it 90deg may not help (eg if there was a "right way up" for any part of the image, it would look wrong), but for my idea, this doesn't matter.

So how about adding a setting in 2.1 that allows you to rotate the cursor 90deg, or to allow you to specify one folder for portrait, one for landscape?

If you need help detecting portrait or landscape on PPC, I can tell you an easy way to do it...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evilc:
OK, Here is a first draft of the "EdgeTrail" idea:

This shows up another issue:

When the edge is at the top of the screen, the "Top bar" overwrites the edge, so it disappears :(

Also, I have had to set the interval between very low (5 ms) to get the animation at all smooth. Either that or up the # frames, but it is already 20 frames (ie about 20k) so I do not think this is practical.

Finally, there is a new version of StarTrail included, I had made an omission and left frame 8 out of my animation too (I would check one of your samples - I think I copied a mwc file as a reference, and if someone else missed frame 8 too, I doubt that is a coincidence??) I also set the StartDelay to 0 to make it loop better...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
You always have good ideas! ;)

I'll consider to implement this option in the next version. At the moment I want to focus my attention to solve the "fullscreen" problem. I guess you have WM 6.1 because with WM65 and WM6 the problem doesn't appear.

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] HaiLe512:
For those unable to get the configuration running

This is my way to get around my problem of unable to use the configuration tool:

a. Create a folder in MWC2 called "default"

b. Make the following change to registry

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Marshall\MWC2:CurrentSkin = default

to change cursor:

1. stop MWC2

2. Copy contents of any of any cursors folder (ie, png files and conf.mwc) to the default folder

3. start MWC2

The above is my work around to play with all of the nice and wonderful cursors...I am thinking of writing a script to change cursor on a regular interval...hehe...this would be fun!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] piper_indebt:
Hey, that would be really a great idea, changing cursors :) hehehe very good idea HaiLe512. Good luck with the scripts :) Im neither a programmer or a scriptkiddie :) hehehe but an eager waiter for that script :)

Oh by the way for all users, some of the wait cursors i've posted wont show correctly in the configuration menu because the size exceeds the Preview box, dont worry, just select the cursor and click save it will still work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] open_source:
insalled it but when opening it shows:

Error locating process

opening the config works.

-------------------------------------

Edit: after soft resetting my phone the change of the animation worked, but when starting MWC2 again the told error above occours again and

there's no animation shown at all. softreseted again and it worked as long as i did not start MWC2.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Nice cursors piper_indebt! :) Cursors ready to be placed in a cursors pack...

@ HaiLe512: Nice idea... Please, keep it on with your script... It may be a future feature of MWC2.x.

@ open_source: How much free RAM do you have when you got the error? Have you tried to increase the boot delay?

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] open_source:
60% used RAM

strangly everthing does work as long as i do not start MWC2 manually.

If i change the icon i have to soft reset to save the change, but after that it does work. changed the boot delay but it shows still the same behavior.

thanks for your fast reply! awesome piece of software!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
If you change the cursor with the config tool, you don't have to manually start MWC2 since it is automatically restarted.

Can you tell me if it works if you change the cursor with MWC Config and then you DON'T launch MWC2?

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evilc:
Yes, I am using 6.1 on a Kaiser.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
It's a bit strange... I tried your EdgeTrail and I can see it correctly, also in the top bar. I'm wondering why on some devices or situations it can't overwrite the top bar. :confused:

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skilty:
Hi Marshall,

had a bit of spare time over the weekend to try and make my own cursors from animated gifs that i had..... I've had a bit of trouble with the program .. it keeps saying can't find config file.... but after a few soft-resets i've now got one of my cursors working.... I've not had time to check all the one's I made, but I thought i'd post them on here anyway and see if any one likes them..

I've never really used photoshop to edit gif's and png's so this was a total beginners attempt.. I tried using different size gifs so some of them may be too big.... I think i edited the conf.mwc correctly but if anyone would care to comment on them it would be appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jpgrobler:
HI

Has version 2.1 been released?

GREAT APP!!!

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Hi skilty.

Thanks for your contribute. Only one consideration: the cursors you made have no transparency (they have a white background) so they may look not so good as cursors. If you can't transform the white background into transparent, just try adding a frame around it. ;)

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] piper_indebt:
Hi Skilty, the icons are nice works great.

You know what, I have the same problems before with compressing the files, always includes the Thumbs.db which adds a bit of space, so i use details to view the files and compress it to zip without the thumbs.db file.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
It's a known Vista "problem" :D

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evilc:
Well I am using Alex's 6.1 ROM (as in sig), and have no top-bar mods running. Not really sure what is happening here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darebak666:
evilc&Marshall07

I tested the Edge Trial, and it works fine, no disappearing at the top bar..

But evilc, your Edge Trial gave me one idea for new cursor.. will post here when done :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skilty:
I'd noticed that cos i'm currently using my "snarl" cursor and it shows the white background. I am a total noob when it comes to photoshop type programs, but i'll have a go at what you've suggested (although i don't know how to change the background into transparent or add a frame around it, so any advice would be good)

thanks for the trying them piper_indebt, tried your little boy cursor too.... it's cool!

once i've sussed out the transparency thing i'll make some more, just one question though... Should i try and make them to a particular size?? I presume a smaller size would "load" the cursor quicker and make it appear smoother than a big cursor?

EDIT: just sussed the transparency thing.... Here's Cry2 and Snarl which now have no white background...... (the Magic Wand option in my photoeditor did the trick!)...... i'll get the others sorted too and some new ones and post some more
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Maybe in the 2.1 version it will work better... I don't know the reason because in the emulator the fullscreen cursors work fine. Also in my device they work fine with my new Rom (not with the older Rom I had). :confused:

I'm looking forward to see your new idea, darebak666. :D

Skilty, thanks, I'll try your new versions!

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] skilty:
Here's a few more.... not tried them all yet....but thought i'd share - button1 works quite well
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] piper_indebt:
My Vote is on Lets Rock !!! :cool:

"I'm such an addict to guitars!"

Rock on Skilty \m/ (0-o) \m/

Here's a few more. hope you enjoy changing icons :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Wow!!!

How many cursors! It's wonderful! :p

A little tip: you can make cursors also from "real" cursors... I mean .ani files which are animated cursors for Windows (I use RealWorld Cursor Editor to extract the frames). This solution is better since .ani files already have alpha transparence while .gif files have flat transparence. But it is difficult to find good .ani files...

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
MWC2.1 Released

Hi,

I released MWC 2.1. I hope you'll enjoy it...

New features in MWC2.1:

New Configuration Utility

The Configuration Utility now supports Landscape mode for QVGA devices

The Configuration Utility now supports some square resolutions

Minor BUGs fixed

Check it out here: www.marshallskins.ilbello.com

Cursors Packs coming soon...

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rasa:
thanks u very for the new update and i am enjoying.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] latetourtrash:
works great on my sprint mogul after a soft reset. also, thanks for the beavis and butthead waitcursor PIPER INDEBT.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darebak666:
so here is the mentioned one, inspired by evilc's Edge Trial.. :cool:

(only for portrait screen, no landscape support; can modify to support landscape if I know how :))

enjoy
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mr_deimos:
Thanks for the update.

Works great so far. I've attached the cursor i'm currently using in case anyone's interested (a grey version of the gear cursor posted here.

By the way, a small donation is heading your way ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Wonderful cursors darebak666! :eek:

Now you "personal" Cursor Pack has got enough elements! :p

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Madremiha:
Your cursor is a really good idea !! But i think with more frames that will be smoothest ;) (if you can do this)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mr_deimos:
I don't think that'd be wise - remember that all frames have to be stored in the memory all the time, and fullscreen cursors are quite large. Even the current 4-frame cursor uses over 1,3Mb RAM. Each additional frame will need about 340kb more memory.

For comparison: a 10-frame 40x40px cursor needs only 64kb memory.

And a little feature request:

How about making cursor positioning a bit more flexible? Here's what i think could be useful:

*add "left", "right", "top", and "bottom", besides the "center" as possible x and y cursor positions

*add positioning in respect to right/bottom edge of the screen. Negative coordinates could be used for this:

"xPosition=10" would draw the cursor 10 pixels from the left edge, but "xPosition=-10" would draw it 10 pixels from the right one.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evilc:
Hmm, this appears to only be 2 unique frames?

1&4 and 2&3 are identical it seems?

Like the idea though.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darebak666:
yes, you are right ;)

Marshall, I have a question regarding this..

what about situation where I will have only 2 pictures, but I will modify the config file where the names of used frames will be writen like this:

frame=01.png

frame=02.png

frame=02.png

frame=01.png

Will this work, does it help to reduce the memory usage?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mr_deimos:
Might be worth trying. Grab the dotfred's task manager and see how much memory MWC takes before and after this modification:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=280104
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] evilc:
Exactly the same effect could be acheived my making the order 1,2 and doubling the time each frame is shown for.

Think about it: currently (with 1,2,2,1 order) for two repeats you get:

1,2,2,1,1,2,2,1

If you made it (1,2), but doubled the length of each frame, you would effectively get:

1,1,2,2,1,1,2,2

Which is just the same but shifted 1 place.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darebak666:
ok, so I made it this way,

I left there only two pics, and reduced the frame interval, I think its better than the last ones

you can find the updated files on previous page..:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
It's a nice idea. I'll add it to the "TODO" list. Thanks for the suggestion, mr_deimos!

It should work but I' afraid that the memory usage will be doubled. It'll be handled as if you specify 4 different pictures.

Maybe you would like a feature to specify the duration in milliseconds for each frame? I guess I have to add another entry in the TODO list. :p

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
I added the TODO list in the third post for better reference.

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] piranah:
ok

how in the f do i create a .mwc file?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
The best and easiest way is to modify an existing one. You'll find a .mwc file in every cursor folder in your device or downloading the MWC CursorPack1. Simply open the .mwc file with a notepad and chage the values to your needs. :)

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] strikeone:
Excellent work on this app. Marshall07, it's quite a feat and it works great.

I have one problem though, I'm running an AT&T Tilt, and all of the preloaded cursors from MWC 2.1 work fine, but I'm having trouble 'enabling' the "Vista" cursor skin. I am able to sucessfully install the skin (without error(s)), but I do not see the selection for "Vista" in MXCConfig.

I can successfully change to any of the preloaded cursors.I've tried both the WM5 and WM6 versions....any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Hi strikeone,

probably you installed the "Marshall WaitCursor Skin - Vista" which is not a skin for MWC2 but a skin for the default Windows Mobile cursor application. This is the reason why you can't see it in the list of MWC2 cursors.

Vista cursor for MWC2 will be present in a future MWC Cursor Pack.

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Announcement: MWC2.2 released!

New features in MWC2.2:

Possibility to loop to a non-first frame (like in gif animations)

Start the animation from where it stopped or always from the beginning

Possibility to refer to an already loaded frame without reloading the image

Example:

frame=1.png

frame=2.png

frame=*frame1

frame=*frame2

frame=*frame2

frame=*frame2

frame=*frame1

Specify the duration for each frame

Cursor file extension changed from .mwc to .mwc2

Minor BUGs fixed

I also released two Cursor Packs.

Download them here.

I hope you enjoy it

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pinele:
hy.. there is any icon for VGA device... all thi icon appare to small...

thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Some cursors in the Cursor Packs are bigger and appears good in VGA devices. Anyway I'm preparing some VGA cursor packs.

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JukEboXAuDiO:
Awesome gonna try it now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JukEboXAuDiO:
I have 2 problems with MWC2 on my XV6800

The wait cursor stays in the middle of the screen during most application.

Also I tried installing the vista cab for the theme but it does not show up in the config.

Ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Can you provide more info for the first problem, please?

About the second problem, you don't have to download "Marshall WaitCursor Skin" because they are NOT cursors for MWC but they are skins for the default WM cursor handler. You have to download the Cursor Packs to add cursors to MWC.

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JukEboXAuDiO:
Ok here is an example. Its just kind of hanging out in the middle of the screen. Also when I am in the configurator and I click the preview it closes the configurator and I need to reopen it, unload MWC, reload MWC, and go back to the configurator. And sometimes that works. I may have to do it a few times to get it to work. See Attached.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marshall07:
Ok, so you see the WaitCursor even if you are doing nothing.

Can you answer those questions?

1. Which O.S. do you have?

2. How many free RAM?

3. What programs do you have installed?

4. Does a soft-reset solve the problem?

Marshall