yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Google Pixel 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
I agree that moving on is a good idea and think it's a better and more mature option.

I agree with the font being lazy, I also will go a step further and think that releasing MD2 apps in a staggered way is even lazier. Either fully release the concept with the os release, or upgrade all apps with the change at the same time.

I also don't really like MD2 if I'm being honest. The weird pastel colours make me feel like I'm at a nursery, and the whole blank white space with no depth or indication of what to interact with seems contrary to the whole material design ethos. This seems similar to your opinion so I think we agree there.

I haven't had any issues with notifications that I've noticed.

I'm not sure if you were around for honeycomb but I guess I've seen this sort of half baked change occur a couple of times with Android and I'm used to it, whether or not that is a good thing or not is a matter of opinion, and that one in particular didn't last long enough for most people to even remember. When judging this os, I was doing so more from a functional perspective with the understanding that many elements will probably change. Though you're right that something should not be rushed out, I feel that this is an issue with most modern OSs and understand that a change of this magnitude takes a lot of time.

Android hadn't really had any changes in a few years, and I think it was time in my opinion. It's a bold move to change things to this degree but I feel like it will pay off in the end.

Long story short, it appears that we agree on most things and are simply relaying those opinions in different ways.
[Google Pixel 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] jallenhayslett:
Ah! Discussion! Thank you.

I agree with everything you just said. Despite how it may seem, I'm actually very excited in how 10.0 is going to turn out. I may not like everything on the bridge, but at least it's a road to somewhere, and I'm interested to see what's on the other side.

I wasn't around for Honeycomb, but I came in right after during ICS. The change has been phenomenal. This current change is definitely the most significant since.

As for the notifications, I keep everything but only the most essential disabled, but I constantly had missed Gmail, Telegram, and WeChat notifications. The latter I lay solely at the feet of Tencent and their perpetually half-assed programming. The former, however, are extremely well built apps, one being in-house, but both should absolutely function properly if they are being shipped as "9.0 Ready".
[Google Pixel 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
I think if you were, anything that came out afterwards would not seem half baked.

It was an attempt at Tron infused pseudo futurism that fell flat and was confusing at best.

It was the most inconsistent time period for Android, and I'm honestly glad it didn't stick around more than a single release.

Also re: Jackson Pollack, to take a sidebar, was groundbreaking in his time period and when evaluating his work, you need to do so from the perspective of then and not simply looking at it from a current paradigm of thought. He did something for art that no one else had really touched. He broke conventions, and at a more rigid period in art it was something that was truly needed.
[Google Pixel 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] jallenhayslett:
I get that, and I respect his work, without liking it. I find most modern art to be utterly repulsive, and since I tend to see him as a sort of father figure of the modern art movement, it's very hard for me to disconnect the two.

However, I've been privileged enough to share living spaces with a couple people who had his work displayed in their homes, and the way they were able to explain his pieces to me, and introduce me to his work style, I appreciate it probably far more than most. I just can't get into it aesthetically. It still tends to just look like paint drippings to me.

Personally, I'm more of a De Stihl fan. I just wish they would've chosen a few more colors, and in more muted shades than they did.
[Google Pixel 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
His pieces are chaotic and jarring in a way that emulates/mirrors his life and emotions. I appreciate that they seem to be a direct extension of himself.

I like his use of colours and juxtaposition of colours/elements that would have originally be considered very faux pas in art of that period.

I am a huge Dali/Escher/Beksinski fan, and tend to be more into surrealist art. Surrealism, in a similar vein, is also as much about the timeframe/thought process of the art rather than simply the art itself. A lot of art is "standalone", however I tend to like art with a deep philosophical ethos.

I like things that shake up standards and bring about drastic change, and I think if you look at his art other than his drip paintings (of which he is mostly known for), you gain more of a respect or appreciation for his work and skill.

(I know this was all very of topic but hey, we are discussing design right? haha)
[Google Pixel 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] jallenhayslett:
Yeah. The "standalone" aspect is very key to the understanding. I never got far enough into the names to explore their ethos, but, again, was lucky enough to share living spaces with artists that had similar styles to many of those you mentioned. Being able to be around their process was interesting, and allowed me to appreciate a lot of what I previously had only peripheral knowledge.

One of them, in particular, came of age during the Vietnam war, and during that time made some of the most beautifully disturbing pieces I've ever seen. I tried to buy a couple of them from him, but he didn't know how to price them, and I didn't want to pay him less than they were worth, so we ended up at a stalemate. They were breathtaking.
[Google Pixel 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] Large Hadron:
The best thing about Honeycomb was that it was only released for tablets, so most people never encountered it.

I agree that the MD2 colour palette, as rolling out on Google's apps, is shocking. Makes me glad I mostly use 3rd party apps (refusing to update the phone app, but I'm sure they'll bundle it in an update sooner or later).
[Google Pixel 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] jallenhayslett:
I ended up setting up a schedule in Titanium Backup to detach Phone, Contacts, and Messages from the market every night after it runs my backup schedule. I still have to run it manually if I reboot the phone, and I disabled automatic updates on the Play Store. Minor hassle, sure, but at least I don't wake up to a blinding white dialer and pastel contacts and messages.
[Google Pixel 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] PuffDaddy_d:
GOOGLE - BRING BACK THE NOTIFICATION TICKER from 4.4 KitKat

Until this wrong is righted, no update to Android will ever be complete. The stupid notification banners that Gooogle stole from iOS just get in the way and take away one of the great advantages Android had over iOS - the ability to receive and read notifications WITHOUT disturbing the content you are viewing.
[Google Pixel 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] jallenhayslett:
I finally updated to 10 a few days ago.

I would like to officially apologize for everything I said about Pie last year. Compared to 10, Pie may as well be the Sistine Chapel. I'm fairly certain that during the original planning meeting they just gave up and unanimously decided that the primary goal for Android 10 would be total UI inconsistency and nonconformity.

To be fair, I've noticed that pretty much all the major OSes and their UI/UX have become progressively worse, year over year, for the past few years. Maybe they're all just secretly colluding to slowly train us all to accept poor design. :tinfoil:

On the upside, 10 is fast, stable, and butter smooth. It's really quite a shame. It's like they took a Corvette engine and crammed it into a wood-paneled station wagon. Runs great, but it sure is ****e to look at.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] pro4ever:
Hi this is gonna be mine first note since the N4 and i have always rooted and custom rom. This will be my first android phone i will not do either complete stock. Wanted to ask is there a adaway app for unwanted ads and also youtube adaway ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] destz0r:
on my s7 i use disconnect pro (in samsung galaxy store) as adblocker

as far as adfree youtube, you can just use Youtube Vanced: https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/app-youtube-vanced-edition-t3758757
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] pro4ever:
Does dissconect Pro block all ads including the ones on apps or just browsers?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] destz0r:
it blocks ads system wide for me in all apps

doesnt block ads inside of the samsung internet browser though, you need to use adblock extension inside the browser for that
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
Touch screen unresponsive even in TWRP

The below post has the latest information on the Touch Screen Unresponsive issue

Likely Cause

From the testing that I've done to reproduce the issue, as far as I can tell the issue is that Stock Oreo is not able to be safely applied over the top of old builds of Stock Nougat. Furthermore, it doesn't seem to matter if you were on Custom ROMs after you were last on Stock Nougat, just what Stock Nougat build you were on last.

Avoiding the Issue

Again the key here is what build of Stock you were on last (and I guess booted into). So, if you were never on Stock Oreo, and you aren't sure what version of Stock Nougat you were on last, then the safest path to getting these builds working is to first flash the latest Nougat Stock ROM.

Get the latest from this thread: [Nougat][Stock][Rom] TWRP Flashable Stock Builds

Once you have flashed the latest Nougat, boot once to make sure everything is working. After that, you should be able to safely upgrade to Oreo.

Fixing the Issue

If you have been affected by the issue, most people have been able to get back the touch screen functionality by flashing a fastboot version of the ROM. However, as long as you have a PC handy you will be able to flash using TWRP as well via adb, using the steps detailed below. A third option is to connect a USB Mouse via an USB OTG adapter.

Note that for either method via TWRP, you cannot use the versions of the ROM with the Aroma installer, as the mouse is not supported within, and there is no way of providing input by adb.

Downloads

The 92-14 or 93-14 versions should be suitable. They are in these links (these do not erase EFS, so for the paranoid, you will retain your IMEI):

twrp-flashable-potter-NPNS25.137-92-14-no-erase-modemst.zip

twrp-flashable-potter-NPNS25.137-93-14-no-erase-modemst.zip

TWRP Commands

Once in TWRP, connect your USB cable. To copy the downloaded file into your internal storage (adapt the filename for the version you downloaded):

adb push twrp-flashable-potter-NPNS25.137-92-14-no-erase-modemst.zip /sdcard/

If you want to backup, you can do this via the command line as well. I haven't tested this myself, but the commands are available here: https://www.pocketables.com/2014/10/using-twrps-new-adb-interface.html

The example provided uses the following to back up system, data and boot, and compress:

adb shell twrp backup SDBOM

You will need to do a clean flash, so these commands will wipe data / factory reset and then install

adb shell
twrp wipe data
twrp install /sdcard/twrp-flashable-potter-NPNS25.137-92-14-no-erase-modemst.zip
reboot

After the reboot, you should have your touch screen functionality back. Then reboot to recovery, and install Oreo as normal. If for any reason the Oreo flash doesn't work, try the steps again, but rather than installing the latest Oreo, install an earlier one.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Arunxyz:
Awesome bro...

You Rock...

you even included auto backup of efs and persist ... wow thats very thoughtfull and nice of you...

hatsoff..

:good::good:
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Armando Lopez:
Thanks dude, downloading

Edit: working like a charm, again thanks.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] spandy992:
Thanks for uploading. Two questions though...

1. which one would be suitable for retin? (India)

2. Are there any bugs?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] dhinesh_cool:
working for retin also thnx
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] redbeard1083:
Question: I'd like to flash this, but I'm planning to roll back in the future to take the OTA back up to O. If I restore nougat system, boot, persist, recovery, oem will that still be possible? I see some other stuff in the zip like adspo.bin, fsg.mbn, and modem. Not sure if those it lead to OTA failures or a brick.

also, nice job on the persist/efs script!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sinchan_nohara:
Worked on retin also thanks. Great work!!!!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pfonck:
I'm pretty sure forced encryption of the data partition is still enabled.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
If that's the case magisk is probably needed to turn it off. Sorry, but I've only tested it with magisk installed. Moto have changed the fstab location, I thought I got it but maybe it's cosmetic and doesn't do anything. Will update OP when I get a chance.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pfonck:
Yes, when you do;

rom installation > format data > flash magisk

everything is okay

verified.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Dark98:
Did Moto make Oreo 64bit?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
Good question, and this is something that I needed to consider before doing this, in case everyone installed this and we'd have no path to get to official Oreo.

Refer to the section in the OP "Important information if downgrading to Nougat". Basically you need to follow all of that to be able to get notification of the OTAs. Once the official public Oreo OTA is available, I will then put together a zip based upon the pre-requisite nougat rom with the official Oreo OTA.

I also believe that one or both of the 1 July 2018 and/or 1 August 2018 patches were announced, but neither were for Oreo. I do intend to keep Nougat up to date as well in its thread.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] JC Pzy:
How did a recovery come in? with volume - and power enters and I say without command :(
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
I've only just added something to the FAQ (post 2) that covers this. Sorry, it was unexpected and didn't come up when I was testing as I always had magisk installed. Follow these steps:

TWRP is no longer installed after flashing this

I believe this is related to dm-verity (see above). You will have to first reinstall TWRP via fastboot. When TWRP is back, install magisk immediately after installing the rom, and before rebooting.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] JC Pzy:
:( I do not have a PC to reinstall the recovery :(
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] redbeard1083:
Maybe I'll try tweaking the zip to see if we can run it without the stuff we can't easily backup/restore with twrp. I'll take a stab at it shortly and let you know what happens if we flash just system, boot, and OEM.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
You can give it a go, but I've already done some very brief testing. Using the Nougat modem partition on the Oreo system results in things like 3G only, fingerprint not working.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
I'm guessing you don't have root either? If you did, you could try installing it from a shell from within the rom:

su
dd if=/path/to/twrp.img of=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/recovery
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] fivefour:
An application is holding the device awake. Install GSam or BBB and find out what.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] rjherms:
ro.treble.enabled=false is in our build.prop file....interesting
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] rjherms:
Sample of gcam with cam2 enabled and stock moto hdr
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
Can you share the thread and link to this version of Guam you used?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
So yeah you can dirty flash. I'll make the FAQ a little clearer on this.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] rjherms:
Yes, sorry... from the telegram page.

https://potterroms.me/Mods/Camera/GCam_Nougat_3.2.045.apk
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
Cool, thanks. A few comparison shots from three different camera apps: Gcam, Moto Stock Cam, Snap Camera HDR. One stands out!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Cupcake 1.5:
This is the 32bit version that has some problems right? Sometimes you have to switch to video and back to take photo.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] rjherms:
there are some bugs. sometimes it hangs but its good enough. miss portrait mode from 64bit gcam though. havent had to switch to vidoe yet and AF works for the most part.

---------- Post added at 08:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 PM ----------

#2 looks the best to me.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] markbonn:
Yes, I did, and there was no problem.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] JC Pzy:
I have the same "problem" when restarting does not detect the sim tells me only emergency calls but imei is intact I have to do the same remove the sim and put someone who can explain what happens?:rolleyes:
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] RvLima:
Here is in 4:3 and the quality is terrible (even on Moto Camera)

*edit: It's 4:3 because of the navbar, with moto actions change to 16:9
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Cupcake 1.5:
If those shots are in order to how you wrote...Moto camera wins, judging by the sky outside in each shot.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
The order got muddled, not sure exactly which of the first and third was Moto cam, but the second is definitely Gcam.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Cupcake 1.5:
Ah I see. I would have said the better HDR would be the gcam, just assumed the order was same as what you wrote. Also from my experience, even using the chromatix on stock, the sharpness of images is 10x better on the gcam.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
This time some night shots - the order is Gcam, Moto, Snap Camera HDR, and I've named the files too. Honestly, I think Gcam looks the worst, and I've done a few more shots that are all similar. Moto cam looks best in my opinion.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Cupcake 1.5:
Yes in the night the Moto camera definitely looks better, the colour on the red chair pops, and the colours of the room are not oversaturated like the gcam. Is that with HDR or HDR+ enabled?. I noticed that the + is a little buggy and sometimes produces some greens on whites etc.

Snap HDR is definitely not up to par, looks washed out.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
The gcam shot was with HDR+, can't see an option for just HDR. And yes, a couple of other shots were very green. The walls have a pale green colour, but gcam took it too far. Just goes to show that there isn't an ideal camera in all situations, well, not without further mods. Where are the chromatic mods that have been mentioned?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Cupcake 1.5:
My mistake, it is a toggle for auto/off/HDR. In the 64bit version you can chose HDR or HDR+.

In settings there is an option for minimal HDR with smoothing...not sure what that does, but I assume it tones down the HDR a touch.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] rajeshkoshti:
Oh,,the night you shot these pics, I see you had full sleeve white T-shirt with black strap on shoulder....

Hmmm interesting!

Good samples.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] luizlee86:
anyone using xposed or magisk xposed module?

edit: well, when I flashed Oreo, I also installed xposed framework but got a bootloop (weirdly my screen kept blinking)... now I tried systemless xposed but got a bootloop again.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] rjherms:
See post #9 for flashable

https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/themes/modcamera-aggressive-sharpening-noise-t3604458
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Cupcake 1.5:
I have gravity working on this stock Oreo, I cannot speak for doing it via twrp, however, installing xposed from within the app works fine.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] RvLima:
I'm using Magisk, only 16.7 works for me, anothers versions just uninstall on reboot. For the bootloop, I got her sometimes, just wipe dalvik cache and cache in TWRP
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] emaf94:
works excellent!! awesome. I installed it without any problem
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] markbonn:
I also have that version of Magisk and I have installed the xposed either from the TWRP, from the Xposed app or from Magisk itself and it enters bootloop. You should explain how you do it.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] RvLima:
I just wipe "Dalvik cache" and "Cache" on TWRP and tap on "Reboot System", only it, don't need explanation.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
Hey all, another build up, soak test 4. Link here. Will update OP later on.

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1322778262903993724
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] AceTonaa:
Changes???
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Cupcake 1.5:
I got encryption lock again after flashing soak 4.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
Hmm, I was sure I got it. Bugger, maybe this one needs to come with a warning? Are you doubly sure that you selected the patching option in the installer?

In a root shell, could you provide the output of

cat /vendor/etc/fstab.qcom
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Cupcake 1.5:
I just flashed the system as I did with the last installer. If I use the whole thing, I lose signal.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
You still need to use the last option to patch the boot image and fstab.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Cupcake 1.5:
I used the installer for the previous build since i have lost access to internal at the moment. I flashed system with patch and my device is still encrypted. I used this one which disabled encryption before "twrp-flashable-potter-OPS28.85-10". Now it is not disabling it?.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
Once it's encrypted it stays encrypted until you format data.

I might just bite the bullet and uninstall Magisk from my phone and see if it encrypts or not. I always use Magisk anyway, and this is my only device so I have limited ability to test everything.

Edit: if you reboot to recovery do you still have twrp?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Cupcake 1.5:
I have recovery still. What I do not get is using the last aroma "twrp-flashable-potter-OPS28.85-10", no longer is turning off encryption even though it did before. Just going to redo soak 4 you just released. It looks more like I screwed up rather than something wrong with your release of soak test 4.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NZedPred:
So if you have recovery that means that the dm-verity patch is applied. But I suspect that your phone was encrypted before somehow, and as I say, once encrypted, it stays encrypted until it's formatted.

Merely disabling forced encryption does not remove encryption. It's been that way since lollipop or marshmallow.