yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] molesaied88:
well it depends on what type of tweaks your looking at. Most (if not all) programs are built to run off of the phones operating system i.e. WM5, WM6, WM6.1. Im pretty sure the Titan is WM6. programs like HTC home will work, spb and all thoose others as well. If it says WM5 compatible, then your good.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Mrjasjam:
As long as you dont try flashing the Hermes rom on to it then it cant hurt to experiment with various cabs which if written to run on WM5 or WM6 should be ok. For example a lot of the apps that run on tytn II also run on Hermes.

Have fun!
[Moto Z Questions & Answers] svetaz11:
Hello, is it possible to downgrade to stock MM rom directly from Oreo,or it has to be downgraded to NN first and then to MM ? I dont care about OTA updates and i wont use them,does it mean i can safely downgrade my android version without fear of bricking the device?

Thanks in advance !:)
[Moto Z Questions & Answers] bluenetters:
hi dude, i am not a developer, just want to share my experience, i couldnt even revert it back from oreo to nougat, people say it has different bootloader, so as long as you receiving oreo from OTA, i doubt you and i will stay at this goddamn slow **** oreo os until someone figure it out how to downgrade our firmware. see you :fingers-crossed:
[Moto Z Questions & Answers] Unreal_man:
And if the stock oreo flash custom? Can anyone on any?
[Moto Z Questions & Answers] svetaz11:
I guess im still waiting then :D
[Moto Z Questions & Answers] svetaz11:
If you find the way, please post it here :)
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] m@ze.:
ROMS

1. [ROM][8.1.0_r43][OFFICIAL] AospExtended ROM V5.8 for Redmi 4A/5A [ROLEX/RIVA]

https://xdaforums.com/redmi-4a/development/rom-aospextended-rom-v5-4-redmi-4a-t3784760

2.[OFFICIAL] Cosmic os

https://cosmic-os.github.io/

3.[UNIFIED][RIVA][ROLEX][ROM][OFFICIAL][STABLE] DotOS 2.4

https://xdaforums.com/redmi-4a/development/unified-dotos-2-3-t3803278

4.[ROM][8.1][UNIFIED][OFFICIAL] ToxycOS for Redmi 4A/5A [2.0]

https://xdaforums.com/redmi-4a/development/rom-toxycos-redmi-4a-5a-t3802457

5.[ROM]-[Official]-[05.07.18]-Havoc-OS-[8.1.0]-[Rolex]-[Riva]

https://xdaforums.com/xiaomi-redmi-5a/development/rom-havoc-os-t3812755

6.[ROM][OFFICIAL][8.1.0][riva] Pixel Experience [AOSP]

https://xdaforums.com/xiaomi-redmi-5a/development/rom-pixel-experience-t3801702

7.[ROM][8.1]Liquid Remix[v9.1.4][OFFICIAL][13/08/2018]

https://xdaforums.com/xiaomi-redmi-5a/development/rom-liquid-remix-t3802927

8.[ROM][OFFICIAL][OREO 8.1]crDroid v4.2[Redmi 5A][RIVA][VOLTE]

https://xdaforums.com/xiaomi-redmi-5a/development/rom-crdroid-v4-2-t3793385

9.Mokee [OFFICIAL] [NIGHTLY]

https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=rolex

10.[Unified][Riva][Rolex][8.1][OFFICIAL] FrankenRom 14.5

https://xdaforums.com/redmi-4a/development/8-1-frankenrom-13-5-redmi-4a-hm4a-rolex-t3797453

RECOVERY

1.[OFFICIAL][v.2.8.1] PITCHBLACK RECOVERY PROJECT [TREBLE/NON TREBLE/MIUI]

https://sourceforge.net/projects/pitchblack-twrp/files/

2.[OFFICIAL] TWRP

https://dl.twrp.me/riva/

3.[OFFICIAL]Batik recovery official

https://sourceforge.net/projects/batik-recovery/files/

for me best rom is aex and havoc with pitch black recovery - before flashing any rom plz wipe data,delvic,cache,system.vendor ,cust for better experience and flash gapps with rom.

all the roms are also available in there official site with rolex or riva name ,i just wanted to share this wonderfull roms which are spread in different forums .
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] mcstando:
I've only had tried out crDroid and Pixel Experience from that list, and from 2 of those Pixel Exp is way better.

Mostly due to stability issues with crDroid.

Also enjoyed [7.1]ResurectionRemix with all of its customization options.
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] m@ze.:
you should try aex ,it is the most stable oreo rom for me.
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] sunilromy:
thanks, because of you, i am trying both. aex and havoc.. pixel experience is a nice rom too.
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] sunilromy:
thanks for recommendation man.. i wasnt installing havoc thinking it might be buggy like others.

but its really best.

posted update in here

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77412008&postcount=34
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] sunilromy:
Alright. After trying all. i came to conclusion, best rom is AEX
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] m@ze.:
Aex is the most stable Oreo rom for 4a/5a and also battery / performance is super good, also u will receive frequent updates most of the time every month.
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] iamsonal:
AEX is seriously the best ROM. All other Oreo ROMs consume lot of battery.
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] sunilromy:
Alright.. recent aosp extended has bugs, random bootloops too.

Recent pixel experience 8.1 is amazing ROM

So my vote now goes to pixel experience 8.1 . Almost everything works, stable. Unfortunately I can't change vote lol
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] Harsh the dev:
I have found DOT OS ... ULTRA STABLE.. i dont like AEX .. bcz usual appearence... HAVOC OS.. consumes battery A LOT.. so.. DOT OS.

.
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] GHOSTisSavage:
Can you please update the list with Pie roms? It will really help.
[Xiaomi Redmi 5A Guides, News, & Discussion] Dyansyh:
Thank you very much...

Permission to download
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] CharlieMHz:
I'm currently on Nitrogen OS, and am thinking to switch to either one of these as I've seen reviews and praises about these ROMs. I would like to get some opinions from people who have used these ROMs, how was it? And which would you recommend?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] highwaystar_ru:
/*
* I'm not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed (like it did for me...).
* Please do some research if you have any concerns about features included in the products you find here before flashing it!
* YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
* Your warranty will be void if you tamper with any part of your device / software.
* Same statement for XDA.
*/

LineageOS is a free, community built, aftermarket firmware distribution of Android 7 (nougat), which is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device.

LineageOS is based on the Android Open Source Project with extra contributions from many people within the Android community. It can be used without any need to have any Google application installed. Linked below is a package that has come from another Android project that restore the Google parts. LineageOS does still include various hardware-specific code, which is also slowly being open-sourced anyway.

All the source code for LineageOS is available in the LineageOS Github repo. And if you would like to contribute to LineageOS, please visit out Gerrit Code Review.

What works:

Calls/SMS/Mobile data

Wifi

Bluetooth

GPS

Camera (Photo/Video/Flashlight/HAL3)

Audio

Fingerprint sensor

DT2W

Keydisabler

Notification LED

Torchlight

NFC

Broken

You tell me

Source code:

device tree: https://github.com/HighwayStar/android_device_nubia_nx549j

device-common: https://github.com/HighwayStar/android_device_nubia_msm8953-common

kernel: https://github.com/HighwayStar/android_kernel_nubia_msm8953

vendor: https://github.com/HighwayStar/android_vendor_nubia

Clean code with kernel rebased on top of latest caf nougat msm8953 tag.

Download

2018-08-16

* Initial release

gdrive: lineage-14.1-20180816-UNOFFICIAL-nx549j.zip

mailru: lineage-14.1-20180816-UNOFFICIAL-nx549j.zip

To install this you have to install TWRP first. I can recommend this version, built with same kernel as ROM. nx549-twrp-3.2.1.img

If you want to use google apps use ARM64 Android 7.1 opengapps package https://opengapps.org/.

If you need root use Lineage addonsu or Magisk

This rom supports Google camera mods. You can get HDR+ working with one of version from here https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/ One of known working version is MGC_5.1.018.177624777-41364271.apk. to make HDR+ avaliable you have to select model Nexus 6P in settings and restart app (this means swipe it from recent apps or reboot).

XDA:DevDB Information

[ROM][UNOFFICIAL][7.1.2][nx549j] LineageOS 14.1 for Nubia z11 mini s [16/08/2018], ROM for all devices (see above for details)

Contributors

highwaystar_ru

Source Code: "https://github.com/HighwayStar/android_kernel_nubia_msm8953

ROM OS Version: 7.x Nougat

ROM Kernel: Linux 3.10.x

Based On: LineageOs

Version Information

Status: Testing

Created 2018-08-16

Last Updated 2018-08-22
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Znooper:
Regarding lineage nx549j

Thankyou for building a clean code of los

There are some bugs:

+camera(monochrome photos when using flash)

-maybe because some vendor libraries are missing.and chromatix files are also missing. (some)

+fingerprint latency (like fingerprint is hit or miss)

-maybe because the fingerprint service goes doze idk.

Any way thank you for building los I think it can go official:)

All other features are working seamlessly

It is the 1st android N rom to support volte on our device.

And NFC is not included in global variant(or just Indian) that's OK.

Thank you for keeping us updated.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] highwaystar_ru:
It looks like nougat get little attention, hope oreo will be more interesting. Here is Lineage 15.1 project https://xdaforums.com/android/development/rom-lineageos-15-1-nubia-z11-mini-s-t3842997
[Other SmartWatches] Hello1680:
I am looking for fast firmwares and how to flash them. I have a GV10 smart watch
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] CapraNorvegese:
Hi, I've a mi5 that some days ago turned off because the battery was discharged. After a full charge the phone didn't restarted and was stuck in bootloop (I can see the mi logo with the android logo and blinking points).

I unlocked the bootloader and flashed the global image (9.6.2.0) with clean all option, unfortunately the phone is the same condition (mi logo and blinking points), then I flashed the phone again but this time in edl, the flash took 17 min but, again, I see mi logo and blinking points.

What I should do?

P.S. I've also tried to flash the lineageos but the phone is stuck in the lineage "blinking" logo.

You can find the same 3d here: http://en.miui.com/thread-3555361-1-1.html
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] DarkJoker360:
Hi,

DarkJoker360 x AskuccioTreble Pixel Experience v9.0 for Huawei P20 Lite

(This rom is provided by: [MENTION=7019289]DarkJoker360[/MENTION] and [MENTION=6878128]Askuccio_DROID[/MENTION])

*** Beta Version ***

About

[CENTER]Pixel Experience is an AOSP based rom with all Pixel goddies (wallpaper, UI etc)
[/CENTER]

Warning

[CENTER] * Your warranty is now void.
* We are not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at us for messing up your device, we will laugh at you.[/CENTER]

Working

[CENTER]* Touchscreen
* Adb
* Audio
* Boot
* Bluetooth
* Internal/External storage
* Sensors
* Wifi
* RIL
[/CENTER]

This rom is Notch Enabled !!

Not Working

[CENTER]
*Hotspot Wifi
*Camera
[/CENTER]

For enable MTP:

Enable Developer Options, select "Default USB configuration" and select "File transfer". Connect the phone to the PC!

Installation

[CENTER]* you must also have this recovery version installed : TWRP (make sure you got latest version installed!)
* go to TWRP and do format data and then a full wipe (system, data, cache, dalvik/art cache) !
* install PixelExperience ROM
* flash gapps and root (optional)
* reboot to system
* Enjoy !!![/CENTER]

Download

[CENTER][URL="https://sourceforge.net/projects/askucciodevelopment/files/ROM/AndroidPie9.0/PixelExperience_hi6250-9.0-20180815-1701-UNOFFICIAL.zip/download"]PixelExperience_hi6250-9.0-20180815-1701-UNOFFICIAL.zip[/URL]
[URL="https://github.com/ianmacd/MagiskBuilds"]Magisk[/URL]
[URL="https://opengapps.org/"]Gapps[/URL]
[URL="https://xdaforums.com/android/development/gapps-unofficial-opengapps-builds-t3828141"]Unofficial Gapps 9.0 Pie[/URL]
[/CENTER]

Note: Official OpenGapps aren't released so gapps can crash !

Note:This is the only Magisk versions that won't bootloop, it's tested, use its instead of others!

Credits
[MENTION=6878128]Askuccio_DROID[/MENTION]

Kernel Source: android_kernel_huawei_hi6250

I don' t have the device for testing, if you want faster releases please contribute for buying it. Thanks

DONATIONS

Regards !​

XDA:DevDB Information

Pixel Experience, ROM for the Huawei P20 Lite

Contributors

DarkJoker360

Source Code: [url]https://github.com/DarkJoker360[/URL]

ROM OS Version: 9.0 Pie

ROM Kernel: Linux 4.x

ROM Firmware Required: Emui 8 unlocked bootloader & twrp

Version Information

Status: Beta

Current Beta Version: 9.0

Beta Release Date: 2018-08-16

Created 2018-08-16

Last Updated 2018-08-16
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] DarkJoker360:
Reserved

Screenshot: http://imgur.com/gCj8bLd

http://imgur.com/Kvzs0TE

http://imgur.com/2QXDD7m

Note: at first boot you ll get a reboot in bootanimation but after reboot to bootanimation it will boot !
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] alex_thirteenth:
Hi, thanks for the work done!

Tell me please how things are with:

1. With a monoble

2. Gestures are supported?

3. Which variant of gapps to install?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] DarkJoker360:
Hi, for the moment no gesture, gapps can cause crashes or error while flashing so I don' t know, I posted anyway the unofficial one for who wanna try... I don' t understand the point 1, can you explain me better pls?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] alex_thirteenth:
poin 1 - how are things with the cut-out of the screen
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] DarkJoker360:
The rom is notch enabled, so no nore icons out of the screen ;)
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Ramesh006:
successfully flashed in honor 6x everything working except camera.

rom stuck at boot animation after flashing so i have flashed stock emui 8 recovery then did factory reset now its working fine
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] alex_thirteenth:
can make screenshots?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Splitter2k7:
How is that possible? I thought android p needs at least vendor 8.1 which the p20 lite doesn't have? However great work
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] RJPR95:
Which TWRP version do you recommend? Your first post mentions it but it doesn't have a link.
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] AJ:
the rom boots , but can't install gapps ERROR 70
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Dre0x:
Do a system resize and you can flash gapps, but for me it keeps booting forever i dont know why. However i tried with all recovery in this subforum but no one works for me
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] AJ:
is there a guide in mind you are talking about ?

also pixel launcher keeps crashing .
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Yeahmään:
[MENTION=7019289]DarkJoker360[/MENTION] why you don't post the twrp we need?! We all and I asked for the link with working twrp for p20 lite in another thread and you don't give an answer. Why?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Ajinkya32:
is the camera working after installing this rom on Huawei P20 lite?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] DarkJoker360:
Camera got fixed but not here, in Aosp 9.0 that will be out soon here, stay tuned !
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] mchtt:
Will it be just a Kang of phusson's GSI ?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] RJPR95:
Will this GSI include Gapps?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] DarkJoker360:
If you consider my works just a kang I am gonna left and let you guys making the roms. Good luck, I' ll switch to qcom. Let' s stay away from thus brand and his community.
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] mchtt:
It was not an assumption, just a question.

XDA is full of kangers nowadays that's why I'm asking cause I'm able to build and seeing no notch support on your rom made me think this was not a port.

The answer seems to be "No" which is reassuring.
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] CheckeredDots:
Hey Joker, awesome rom! I've been using it daily and it works mostly fine.

Issues with camera app as you know and also it's a bit slow sometimes, especially in the left google panel from homescreen. Pie is so sweet to use though, can't wait for aosp 9.0 - is navbar support going to be added? :D
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] kumarsid7:
Is VoLte supported?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Ahmed_Khalifa:
How did you flash it?

because I tried I think all the twrp recoveries for p20 lite but, didn't boot, please advise.

Thanks.
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Ahmed_Khalifa:
Succeeded on installing your ROM.

Hello @DarkJoker360

Finally I flashed AOSP 9.0 onto P20 Lite (Nova 3e) and it's awesome but, I noticed a few issues so I will list them below.

The initial setup gets stuck when I connect my WiFi to complete it, there is a page that says "Checking for updates" I think. The workaround is to skip the initial setup without connecting to the internet.

Bluetooth is not working properly, it detects Bluetooth devices but it cannot pair with them, The same issue affects WiFi connection. WiFi does get disconnected every and each time Bluetooth tries to pair.

Some graphical UI glitches when using like Uber when navigating the map.

I can't play music on my phone whether it's stock music app or google music app but, VLC player plays music perfectly.

The dark theme doesn't apply to the settings app, nor other places. It applies to the notifications header only.

The statusbar is not 100% optimized for the notch, it's hight is less than the notch by 5px or less as I believe.

Camera works fine.

That's it for now.

Thank you.
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] dcduartee:
What TWRP did you use to flash this?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Ahmed_Khalifa:
I can't remember actually, maybe Delimma's TWRP or something.
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Muscar:
I'm looking for a Android 9.0 based rom for the normal P20, not the Lite or PRO, does anyone have any link that can help? I only get results for the P20 Pro or Lite on google....
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] jcpearl:
can i use this rom on p20 pro CLT-09-432 ??
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] iLeoCorp:
I really don't understand what's the point of making a rom and completely abandon it at the first realize, thanks for putting this on the grave.
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] veron161:
So this is abandoned rom? :/ I was really looking forward to this
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] bodnar1026:
i search the rom update and found new build 2019.07.10 name rom for github. I don't no found changelog rom.

https://github.com/EnesSastim/Downloads/releases
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] littlegamer757:
Known issues?

So, I plan on flashing my P20 lite with Pixel Experience, and therefore I already read a lot about flashing in general in the past few weeks, but one thing I could hardly find anything about, are the known issues on the P20 lite. Now my question is: are there any downsides or known issues with Pixel Experience that could ruin my phone as a daily driver? I don't want to do any special things with it, but at least the Google Apps should work correctly. Can anybody tell me about that?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Arnys:
camera isnt working well

wifi hotspot are buged

bluetooth will not connect to all devices

its realy tricky to flash google services

if dont want strugle, better keep out of this :)
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] FalkorTV:
Working? Version?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] littlegamer757:
Ok, so I think I will choose another ROM then... I want to use my phone as a daily driver after all.
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Zarkhas:
Can someone Provide a link?
[Huawei P20 Lite ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] lwu9529:
为什么下载不了
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] lovishmiddha:
2 Questions

1st: Can i use Nexus 6p Charger to charge Note 9 SAFELY??

2nd: Does Samsungs 25W charger really charges fast?
[Touch Cruise General] OpenGL32:
...is SLOWER than my 2 Years old Dell Axim!

I've been running my Update for CorePlayer to V1.2.2 without any problems. But - i've running the YouTube Function, connecting over WLAN 54 MBits to the YouTube Empire...

There i'll be searching for some videos, thinking that anything has chanced with this new version - tapped on a video - waiting - watching about five seconds - and? NOTHING! Its like before, laggy, struggleing and unwatchable...

why this damn devices is not optimized? why is this expensive thing hardware not able to do, what a two or three year old pocket pc is running without any problems? why we must hack this device to get a piece of performance?

This device is the best, the nicest and the fully featured piece of hardware that i've ever had. i've been a pda junkie since the beginning of this with the crappy WIN CE2.1.

Since Win CE is mutch time gone and the devices gone faster and faster. The good old casio em500 running a 150 MHz MIPS CPU was fast - the well known iPAQ3660 was faster and much better in playing videos or something. Every change of hardware was a change that was useful. After that a MDA2 with a 400 MHz x-scale cpu was mine and it was faster than everything before. MDA Compact was faster, The Dell AXIM Series was fast like a rocket - but then XDA Orbit brakes me like a train crashing in a wall of steel. I thought i've been running this device with a handbrake or something.

The Orbit 2 is a little bit faster - but if there is no video driver the videos are laggy - and that is what i don't understand. Why HTC?!
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
1. The youtube function is still new to the CorePlayer (I mean the direct youtube support whith available configuration)

2. The lag is mostly because of a small buffer and/or a crappy net connection

3. Unless CorePlayer doesn't suck whith normal (320x240 24~25 FPS) videos, don't complain.

Yes, we know that the drivers are missing, that's nothing new. If you wan't to know the cause check my signature. We heard enough people complaining, and most of us tried to do something instead of (in this case very detailed) whining.

If you knew what to expect, then don't complain, it you didn't... maybe next time you'll check forums/reviews/youtube for more info before buying.
[Touch Cruise General] OpenGL32:
http://www.computerbase.de/news/con...ikation/2008/april/quake_3_ipod_touch_iphone/

Apple iPhone running Quake 3 smooth like a piece of butter in the sun...
[Touch Cruise General] Rudegar:
as far as i know iphone got a 600Mhz arm cpu

and a whole different os structure so you cant

really mix it into a compare of polaris and an older dell pda
[Touch Cruise General] wywywywy:
We feel your pain buddy...

Or should I say, we felt your pain. We've got past that stage already, and have kind of accepted this crappy fact of life - that we've been bent over with a smile. I personally chose this device because there is nothing else to choose from!

On the other hand, HTC makes me really want to get an iPhone, even with its lack of any modern features - it is a device that just works (well, after you've jail-broke it).