[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / 5 Plus Guides, News, & Discu] JyoNoOB:
Hi people,

I'll get right to it. If you're here, I am assuming you're into flashing ROMs and customising your device to get that peak performance, If I am right then this post is for you. If you're fine with the stock experience then you can skip this post, go buy that phone, it's worth every cent.

I loved the phone from day one and still do, the issue lies not with the phone but with the community.

The prime means of communication for this group is Telegram. There is an "official" Vince group where users and devs discuss issues share files etc. At least that's what I'd hoped when I joined the group. Never have I ever been so wrong.

It's anything but a group in harmony, there are about 4-6 admins, and only do 2 of them behave responsibly, The rest are just drunk on the power of being an admin of a telegram group (It'd be funny if it weren't so sad.).

Admins use ban kick and mute freehandedly and unreasonably, Anyone with a different opinion to the admins no matter how respectfully put forward will surely grant you a warning (/warn).

To be honest, I wouldn't care so much, all my previous devices I never had to join a telegram group because I didn't need to. The devs were open and communicated via XDA itself, problems were resolved at a reasonable speed (not that they were obliged to) and honestly, if a ROM works there's really no need to contact the admin, you wouldn't find this case with Vince, there'll be bugs and when you report them, hold your breath for the warn.

I still strode forward, overlooking these shortcomings of the community (mainly admins but users are at fault too), Here's your average day on the group.

Until one day, the admins had a bright idea to set an automated response to whenever anyone wrote "best"

They used the meme from Black Panther (The relation is still unknown) with the photoshopped head of the Prime Minister of India.

day

It didn't follow the outrage I expected thankfully but rather 2-3 people politely asked the admins to remove it. On refusing the argument heated a bit

At this time I'd had enough. I was getting tired of these obnoxious people trolling the entire community day in day out. The sad thing was the trolls were the admins...

And of course he couldn't take his own advice, not surprising tbh

Further admins promote snake oil techniques which have 0 benefit, which includes

1) Disconnecting and reconnecting battery to fix idle drain ... (what even?)

2) This is a real gem, I'll just post a screen of it

Also realise how admin's don't follow the rules themselves, but failure to follow the rules on your end is an insta-ban.

This is the state of the community of Vince, the development is even more lagging, All Oreo roms are basically cosmetic changes on but the same rom, they'll have the same issues bugs drain. There's one developer working on pie who comes on telegram and cusses the entire community for not trying his ROM, I get it, they are not obligated to work for the device and I appreciate it, but I as a user am not obligated to test a buggy ROM on my daily driver, I am sorry.

Only the community can fix this, bring the change they want to see, stop treating admins like they are God's so they can walk all over you, or let them and let the situation stay the same.

Peace oot.