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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] IT_Architect:
I read the entire thread. The Whitestone Dome overall seems to be positive. Some people love it and some don't like the glue going where it shouldn't. The glue doesn't sound good to me but it makes sense that it might work the best with the curved sides because the fit wouldn't have to be perfect. If excess glue is such an issue that you need to wipe it off immediately, then what happens when you have to get rid of the glue to put on a new one after a fall?

If I look at the Amazon reviews, verified and most recent, the Whitestone does terrible. The problem is Amazon's highly-rated and verified purchase reviews cannot be real. You won't find the phrase "Note 9" on any of their Note 9 screen protector reviews. That means Amazon is either author of the deception or complicit for a price with the vendor, and the reviews are probably for the screen protector of a flat screen phone, not the curved edge Note 9. Film doesn't sound like the way to go for protection or an S-Pen. So does anybody know of any real-world half-way scientific long-term evaluations of various Screen Protectors, just check out YouTube and flip a coin, or just buy a $10 one and if you don't like it, buy another one?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] mWags:
I did this. From October 2018 to April 2019 I had three Zagg InvisibleShield Glass protectors. All cracked on the curved edge. Paid for the first one then next two were lifetime replacements but I had to pay $10 to get them. So I went with amFilm Glass screen protector for $11. No problems since. The Whitestone glue kinda turned me off, justified or not, I didn't want to fool with it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
ive had the dome on note 8 and note 9. have had every iteration of non loca glued tempered glass and they are worthless. plus humidity gets underneath and its just a mess. also often they have a matrix grid that is just horrible. u can dyi cheap tempered glass and buy separate loca but the whitestone is a nice aio solution that i recommended for doers. if ure bad at life and not a doer than probably ull be on the negative side of things. rhe quality of the feel and responsiveness is almost identical to no protector.not to mention clarity as well. removal can be a bit tedious but it stays always malleable and is not hard like super glue. even if u do crack the glass, because of rhe glue its barely noticable (depending of the severity of the impact.) also before curing the glue, just wipe it off with cotton and alcohol. after curing if there is still excess, rub it to roll it off.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] IT_Architect:
I might get it. Screen protectors always turn out perfect for me, but with a curved screen, it's impossible to manufacture a perfect corner fit. Adding glue removes the perfect requirement.

I needed to hear from someone from the forum that I know to be "real". Thanks!

PS: It will make a lot of people happy when they go back to a flat screen. Their foldable screen is interesting, but how do you make it hard enough to where not-perfectly-clean fingers and a stylus don't dull and scratch it?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] reV17:
Strongly recommend the Ringke Screen Protector. A bit smudge prone but after a while it's a lot better. Not as tough as a glass protector but it does it's job nicely
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] Jammol:
Do you have a link to this?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
I have used the Ringke Easy Film, and have actually purchased 4 spare just to have - they are pretty good. However, I use the S-Pen all the time and found that after a while you get a lot of indented 'lines' left on the protector (barely visible, but definitely there) which present a resistance to the tip of the pen when in use. Here is a link to Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Ringke-Compatible-Resolution-Anti-Smudge-Application/dp/B07JH795PN - I did find that the two I tried left a visible (with the screen off) line across the centre of the screen where the two halves of the backing sticker meet.

I went to the Rhinoshield Full Adhesive Tempered Glass and found it much better for use with the S-Pen - I know it is slightly short of the edges, but it doesn't bother me in normal use and is worth it for the glass 'feel'. Unfortunately it looks like Rhinoshield have stopped making these (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07J1RNMC5). Didn't fancy trying the Whitestone Dome after all I've read about it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
to me all plastic films fail overtime. they're made to be replaced cyclically plus application of the matrial can be very challenging. the overall feel and experience versus a proper tempered glass is no where near one annother.

people who've tried both will agree with me. people who have tried glass+ loca will agree even more. people who have not tried it will disagree.

question is: who do you trust?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] IT_Architect:
What is loca?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
crazy

edit

but seriously:

[youtube]CCcQ3aDxZbU[/youtube]

more examples:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=loca+glue+phone+screen+install

its the type of "glue" to bind the tempered glass to the phone screen. it feels oily to the touch when uncured. it drives any imperfections out as well.

its very similar to how the actualy device screen/digitizer/oled screen mashup is held together on the devices display. that's why the feel, clarity and response is so true to stock.

after curing it stays soft and rubbery. complete removal is a bit tedious as the tempered glass may not want to remove in 1 go. but with some plastic cards and some heat it can be removed fine. the residues can be rolled off like any soft glue. finish up with alcohol and ure good to go.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] 860lacov:
I have dome glass for my note 9

Looks and feels great but...

On the edges the glue catches every dust and little hair pieces so it looks not so good.

My installation process was almost perfect so the problem lies in the glue.

Some of the glue came into the edge of the phone .

On my old leg g3 I had glass without glue. Excellent quality. Can't remember the name .

To be honest I'm not sure how it work.

Over 5 years without any problem.

Is there screen protective glass for note 9 that can be installed without glue
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
yes:

all tempered glass ones.

also for the glue that stay too soft, put a case. or use the curing UV light and hold the phone sideways to the light to make the glue cure more at the edges. i even take alcohol and cotton and rub the sides of the phone where the glass finishes to remove any excess glue.

but i believe that regular tempered glass screens are inferior in every way. I've tried many and they aren't as clear. the response is not the same and if you get the phone wet humidity gets under the screen since they have adhesive only around the edges and not everywhere. plus they usually have a matrix dot grid that can be very visible in certain conditions. they also have a rainbow effect when looking at it at an angle. and lastly they dont last long because if the minimal adhesive. there are just too many issues. these concerns are all talked about on reviews online or in comments on amazon.

so all these issues above VS a bit of some dirty edges is not a good compromise and again, if you use a case such as the sedio surface, or an other that arrives close enough to the edges then there is no space for dirt accumulation. or as stated, use alcohol and cotton to rub edges and remove excess glue and make the glue cure more around the edges with the UV light.

my experience is from buying 100's and 100's of dollars worth of screen protectors from TPU to glass for both note 8 and note 9. the best results and longest lasting have always been a clear non dot mateix tempered glass and loca glue. kits are sold such as whitestone dome or dyi.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] 860lacov:
I have original samsung protective cover. More the best look but the best feel (tried a lot if cases )

I've been wondering. UV light is hitting our phones from the sun every day. Isn't that enough ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
after months and months under direct sunlight probably but the uv light used is 1 inch away so the curing process is not the same. not sure what the uv count index is at. but again a good cleanup job after is warranted. i even go as far as using a thin razor blade around the edges to remove the excess glue. but i suggest this only to experienced users with manual skill. even without such post installation prep. the regular tempered glass and tpu films are very far from the same quanlity. ive tried too many to say that the different is small or negligible. it is not.

anways enough for me. ive posted my concerns and reasons. time to let people make their minds and me go waste time elsewhere.

regards
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] IT_Architect:
I will be keeping the SM-N960U/1. I've had lots of regular glass screen protectors and they work great. The Note 9 with it's curved edges is a problem for all glass protectors. The one that came with my phone fell off already. The full-glue dome glass is the only one with the potential to mitigate the impossible task of maintaining perfect contact everywhere on a rounded edge screen. I'll be getting the Whitestone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
just be sure to have lots of cotton and alcohol to prep the screen adequately.

also might be useful to watch some YouTube videos as the written instructions can sometimes be weird.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] IT_Architect:
Initially it took me a while to learn that clean is not a relative term when it comes to installing screen protectors. Clean works 100%. One spec and it will never be satisfactory. I've watched several already and the reviews on Amazon where they said you also need dead-nuts level too to get things to flow right. I remember what you said about cleanup as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
also an other winning formula for me is this case with associated holster:

https://www.seidioonline.com/produc...g-galaxy-note-9-case-with-protective-corners/

(get the black one. the colored ones, the color rubs off after a few months and you see the black plastic underneath)

its slim and keeps the phone's thin nature in check. while helping with the grip with its rubberized dipped case. people that go for otter boxes and other huge cases are insane.

i dont know how people lug around this phone other than with a holster. alot of them come to xda and report cracked screens and such for no apparent reason(xda dosent issues warranties). the proportions alone of this phone physically is prone to this when pocketed. to me its a no brainer.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] IT_Architect:
I wold have considered that one. After agonizing over it them I went with the Spigen Tough Armor because if the thin case, kickstand, and the tall strong lips on the top and bottom to prevent the screen from contacting the ground when it has a screen protector installed, and watching it demoed. However, as luck would have it, it also has a separately purchased holster available. I do not put my phones in my pants pocket, but I do my shirt or jacket pocket.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
i actualy had it for note 8.

fine choice

(watch out for the proximity to the glass screen protector edges. might be a very tight fit. you dont want the glass to touch it.)

again for the note 8:

at one point i also had a luphie case. one of the slickest ive ever had. but no holster and the metal frame made it a bit heavy and cumbersome. but oh man was it nice:

https://www.luphiecase.com/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] njweb:
Checked the Whitestone Dome Glass screen protector reviews for the Note 9 on Amazon (before deciding to order) and it only gets a 3.3 star rating and a whopping 31% are 1 star.

Shame it is so difficult to find a good screen protector for this top of the line phone (see my prior post with my research for screen protectors). The tempered glass ones only have adhesive on the edges (due to the Note 9's curved design).

Open to any suggestions I may have missed, thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
those reviews to me are like a bull in a china shop. people's bad skill level probably account for alot of those bad ratings. moreover, the low star rating probably should be considered as the users skill level more than the products quality. the only bad rating I'd give it is regarding the price. here in canada it goes for around 65 to 80 bucks shipped. so on that standpoint it does suck for glass and glue, but the kit does also include a plastic tray and a cheap uv lamp...lol

a perfect install is so rewarding and thays why i feel that the bad reviews are mostly related to user induced disasters.

its like going skiing for the first time with other skiers for the day:

if you dont fall and get the hang of it quickly its quite enjoyable. but if you lack motor skills and fall and cant continue, i bet its one of the worst things since everyone else is there to stay for the day and ure left as dead weight poopooing somewhere. luckily bad skiers dont rate mountains. but unfortunately users that are all thumbs rate products all the time.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] Batas:
I got spider webs on 2 perfect installed screen protectors after a couple of weeks. I'm a very capable guy. Just my 2 cent. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] IT_Architect:
Well I did it today. This is how it went.

1. I got everything just perfect and when I pulled the tab to let the glass down onto the screen, it trapped a bubble right in the center.

2. The second tube there seemed like there wasn't as much in it. I did the same thing, but this time as the glue went down and contacted the screen before I pulled the tab. That worked pretty good, but then the top didn't wet out completely in one spot next to the speaker. That I realized was the proximity of the masking tab so when I pulled it back slightly it which helped and I tipped it and that got out the rest. The other was on the top where a small bubble was in the corner on the top. I used the plastic tab an touched it and it wetted out. Then it was perfect. I cleaned did the thing for 15 seconds on each end. Then I took it out and did the minute on each end. It was perfect. 2 hours later on the opposite end near the phone jack in the black area there a little spider webbing taking place.

I as I mentioned earlier, I went with the Spigen Tough Armor, and took your advice and checked for clearance. I heard of others who said it was very close and contacted and got to the protector and caused lifting on the edges. The clearance measures to be a little over a mm/.045" on the sides, and a little under a mm/.035" on the top and bottom. I can't make the cast contact the screen protector even when I push on the rubber around the edges. It would take quite a hit for it to push the rubber far enough to hit the screen protector because I can't get it close pressing as hard as I can with my fingers.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
2nd time around it will be perfect. its a bit tricky at first. the nervs of not wanting to screw up often makes things worst. also ive never used thos protective tabs as they are just in the way. i should have mentioned that. regardless of the imperfections. the quality and feel is still unparraled to tpu or regular stick on glass.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] xchatter:
I just got this. I still haven't put it on since I have a Nillkin tempered glass on(it's not bad, but I've always hated those black-bars semi-adhesive ones). I will let you know if the new one is any good when I put it. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] IT_Architect:
Maybe the 3rd time around will be perfecter. I know what it's like to peel one off now. Nothing sticks to the phone. Everything sticks to the protector, which is a good thing. Where can I buy the glue tubes? Why 3rd time around? You are not going to believe this. My Verizon account got suspended. How did that happen? The new phone was on a contract and it ended up on a black list.

Woe is me. I'll just go back to my old phone? Nope. They won't let old one be activated. Why can't I just put the SIM in that was activated? Because when a SIM is put into a blacklisted phone, it blacklists the SIM and you need to replace it with a new one that they won't activate because it doesn't have HD Voice (VoLTE). So I quickly bought an LG Stylo 4 off Craigslist that was Verizon and unlocked. It turned out not to be Verizon and it wasn't unlocked. It was XFinity, which only uses the Verizon network, and the tech said he unlocked it, but he didn't. Then I went to Walmart and got a $38.95 Nokia 2v phone with SIM, spent a day on the phone with tech support, and got my number back. 2 days after that I get an unlock for the LG Stylo 4. I had to flash it back to get software to work, so I know how to flash LGs now. There is no gallery app so you need to make a shortcut to your pictures. The LG app for transferring from one phone to another doesn't work for the Calendar and imported about 5 out of 187 contacts. I had to do that doing an export from my Note 3 to a file and import it on the Stylo 4. There is no unlocked version so it's trying to update me but at least it won't happen automatically after a time or stop me from working. It has the blue Software Update icon, but it doesn't have the spot to turn off Allow changing system settings and ADB cannot find the module to disable, so in that regard it works about like any carrier's firmware, and unlike US UNLOCKED firmware, and it has no US UNLOCKED firmware to load, so it pops up every time I boot and I have to look at it on the lockscreen notifications. There is no native way to add your own wallpaper. You need to buy an app. After working with the LG I realized I could do worse than Samsung after all. All of this reinforces my thinking that you don't want the phone number to be owned by the wireless provider.

Now I'm looking for a black Note 9 again in excellent condition. At least I have a backup to restore the new one to.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
i think i remember when u got ure phone rhat there was talk of it not being payed off.. cant belive that was actually the case.

you are very unlucky. .. now go get that n9600 or n960f/ds already... lol

wondamobile have decent prices.(dual sim might come in handy for you)

for the glue, just buy loca glue on amazon. dont buy too hard of a rating one. u want one that will stay rubbery so around 1200 or a bit more viscosity rating. for some reason i couldint find any but i swear i bought a tube 1 or 2 years ago:

here's a 1000pma

https://www.amazon.com/Xfactor-Hydr...ue+1200&qid=1567121347&s=gateway&sr=8-2-fkmr1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] IT_Architect:
The talk started a week-ago today. The phone was new with the wrap still on it and all of the protective stuff still on the phone.

I asked the vendor how often that happens, 1 in 10, 10 in 100, or what? He he buys the phones at an auction by the carrier. They are guaranteed to be clean, but what that means is he is not out the money if its not. He said it works to about 1 in 20. That's not very good IMO.

Why do I want to go with the SM-N9600 again? LOL! Also, doesn't the 2nd SIM just do 2G? I see almost all 9.0 and not 8.1 and boot loaders have gone from 1 to 2 to 3.

So what does the 1200 or 1000pma mean?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] njweb:
Thanks, that seems to be one of the main complaints (frequent) on Amazon contributing to the 3.3 rating and 31% 1-star reviews.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
id think that both sims can do 4g.

the Mpa.s is viscocity @ a certain temp. kind of like how they rate engin oil...:

https://vkrepair.com/loca-glue/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] bober10113:
to me, even if i do or do not consider carrier options, having a non rootable phone is the 1st thing on my list of no-noes. all the rest is irrelevant and can be surmounted in some way or form when having root.

also i too am missing 1 band from my local provider on my intl. device.

this is my second korean bought note. so its been around 1 year and 3/4 that i have been running off my sim with a band missing and i noticed this a couple months ago. to tell you the truth i couldn't care less as i have not noticed anything wrong for so long.

so the argument if missing 1 band on X carrier is not an argument in by book that would stop me from getting a proper device.

speaking of cutting the proverbial wire attached to a phone number:

https://www.fongo.com/world/

i use this for telegram and also for testing purposes.

there are probably many more alternatives but for a free service, it gets the job done.( u can enroll advances services aswell within the app by paying)

basically you could dump the providers all together and get a data sim and be done with the old thought process if carriers and phone numbers:

https://www.simoptions.com/prepaid-sim-card-usa/

btw its funny how carriers sell the idea of a phone line capable of volte and wificalling when that's what is it natively in our day an age its all digital and has been for quite a while now. they just found ways to sell us what we should have had by default and rebrand it while the regular service is downgraded and compressed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories] kbone213:
Hey everyone. I'm hoping to find a tempered glass protector that offers FULL screen protection. There are so many that have things like a giant "notch" at the top for the cameras/sensors, or non edge-to-edge coverage, etc.

I remember it was very difficult for me to find one like this for the S6, but THIS one from Nillkin offered fantastic edge-to-edge coverage with precision cuts instead of just gouging out the entire top section. This makes it difficult to even tell that there is a screen protector on at all.

I tried buying THIS one from LK, but am having a similar issue; the protector just doesn't go to the edge or even really near it.

You can see what I mean with this image:

And now with many of the posts in this thread, I am seeing a lot of issues with adhesives, sensitivity, clarity, etc.

Does no one make a top quality protector?

I don't care if it's $50+, as long as it's perfect.