yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
It is normal to end up with that result.

It was fixed from the start but a step you skipped was of flashing the stock image before.

This is because the Canadian ROM has unorganized settings.

This is fixed by flashing TWRP, wiping everything and starting from the steps provided.

Sorry for not making this point clear, but I hope I helped you!
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Barebonet:
Ok, thank you!
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] KomitaMKD:
What's better than zapryanov?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] mahaprabhu:
Pls Enable volte
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
I find Mitigation more suiting for me in the category of being clean and pure for a stock nougat experience, but if you liked the themeing used, go ahead! It depends on your liking. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
Is it not enabled? Sorry to ask you this, as I don't have VoLTE in my country.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] mahaprabhu:
In zappronov rom VOLTE is working with jio sim......pls fix in mitigation os
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
Thank's for the notice!

Once I get it working, I will definitely inform you. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] mahaprabhu:
Thanks.....pls update kernel...with working volte....:svetius:
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Gramos Qevani:
thank you bro :good::good::good:
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] AnonymousAL:
Thats not a rom. It is the canadian tar with boot and system files in it. Otherways it will not work on the g903f. Because of missing home csc from the tar the settings will be disorganized. There is no skipped steps or something you did wrong. We have used that tar files since Stricted made one for us because I personally asked him for because i didnt know how to remove other files from the tar. It is not a rom it is just a g903w firmware file!
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
I am currently uploading the full zip of this firmware. Sorry for misleading you.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Goblin171:
Is this Rom in Multilingual (German) ???
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Barebonet:
Nah
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Goblin171:
Can you make this rom in multilingual please
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
You may set it up in English and change the language once done in the settings.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] RafaelS5Neo:
could you create a fix for the SIM to work on the g903m / ds model in latin america? please answer
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
If I find a way how... Definitely!

Just give me some time as I am working on RR.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] RafaelS5Neo:
How long would it take? Sorry for bad English.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] AnonymousAL:
I would love to try that!
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
Update day today!

I have been messing around with MitigationOS today to get a flashable zip for it aswell with VoLTE.

Everything seems to be fine.

Update will come out very soon. so stay tuned!
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] h.m.k.:
New version include Face Unlock & Face Detect for Media? SHealth works?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
Update is out!

Added .zip support via TWRP or any other compatible recovery aswell with VoLTE support.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
Anyone tested newest version? My phone just turns off 5 seconds after power on. [MENTION=8086838]PixelBoot[/MENTION]
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
Has it repeated itself, and which model is your phone on?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
Im on SM-G903F

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I was on stock 6.0.1.Flashed newest twrp in odin>flashed rom>rebooted.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
Did you wipe and has this reoccured?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
Yeah re-downloaded rom and wiped everything again still same thing.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
Strange...

This hasn't happened to me.

Was it a one time thing? Maybe after heavy use?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
I mean.First,I was on lineageos.Updated twrp,wiped cache,dalvik,system,data and flashed rom.After this phone was stucking on s5 neo logo,so I flashed mm stock by odin>booted>flashed twrp>rom and still phone turns off 5 sec later.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
By any chance...

Are you rooted or rooting?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
Nope,flashed only rom zip in both cases.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] h.m.k.:
Do you wiped partitions? For me, ROM works
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
Already mentioned.In all 3 attemps,I wiped everything including sd card.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] h.m.k.:
TWRP 3.2.3.0? What is status of "OEM unlock" in Developer Options after stock flash?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
Gonna reflash stock,give me 10 minutes.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] h.m.k.:
I think TWRP flashed so "OEM unlock" is "Allow".
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
Already phone is booting.Gonna tick option and we will see

---------- Post added at 11:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:26 PM ----------

Okey,already on stock mm.I should follow these steps:

1.Flash 3.2.3.0 in odin

2.Go to twrp

3.Wipe dalvik,cache,data,system

4.Flash rom and reboot?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] h.m.k.:
:good:
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
Still same,black screen after samsung s5 neo splashscreen.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] h.m.k.:
I have bootloader G903FXXU1BQK1 & baseband G903FXXU1BQK3, maybe it?

What is after flash Zapryanovv ROM [v2.1]? Still black screen?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
I flashed polish version of mm firmware(G903FOXA1BQC1_XEO),gonna checkout now what baseband I have.

Honestly,Need to download zapryanovv and checkout if that's working.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] h.m.k.:
You're older, I started with this: https://samsung-firmware.org/download/Galaxy__S5__neo__/40f1/TPL/G903FXXU1BQK1/G903FDPX1BQK3/ :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
Funny beacuse sammobile site is showing that's newest verion for Poland.On stock 6.0.1 now my baseband is G903FXXU1BQC1.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] h.m.k.:
Latest XEO, but branded is newest.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
Oh,my bad :D.Too much oneplus/sony last time.

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Zapryanovv is booting.Is it good idea to wipe everything and flash Mitigation OS after booting zapryanovv?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] h.m.k.:
If you have bootloader G903FXXU1BQK1 then yes
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Yanun:
Okey booted up.Does rom have bug with 97% battery as zapryanovv?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] h.m.k.:
I did not check it but probably yes.

Question for PixelBoot: what changes this entry "persist.radio.sib16_support=0" in build.prop ?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
I didn't mess with it but probably something to do with the RIL.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] h.m.k.:
I think that's it: https://pl.scribd.com/document/283516586/MIB-and-SIB-in-LTE
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] gonesimera:
problems installing

I also had the blank screen after five seconds, I flashed the official stock rom EUR (Greek) version, still the same.

I then flashed with Franko's and it works, I then rebooted into TWRP and flashed this rom, now it is working great so far.

not sure what the problem was.

Samsung health was not working, but changed the ro.config file and works perfectly.

The only problem is that Samsung cloud refuses to sync, saying cant contact server, try again later, any ideas?

thanks for your hard work.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] RafaelS5Neo:
How is the progress for the g903m-ds model fix?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
Beyond setup. Yes
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
Soon with ya!
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] RafaelS5Neo:
there is a date for the next update?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] GorfDroid:
No ETAs:rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] RafaelS5Neo:
any news about the next ROM update? does it work on the g903m? Pixelboot please reply
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
I am out of ideas on what to try at the moment...
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] RafaelS5Neo:
if it is not possible to create a fix, would not it be possible to do the same rom port for the g903m-ds model?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] AnonymousAL:
It is not possible. You can port a single sim rom to a single sim device but not a single sim rom to a dual sim device. Because pf the backend stuff. In this rom there is no driver support for dual sim and we cant do anything about that. I cant explain more simply
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] RafaelS5Neo:
Is it impossible to use this rom nougat on the dual SIM model?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] AnonymousAL:
You can use it but without sim recognised
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] RafaelS5Neo:
Is there no way to recognize the SIM?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] AnonymousAL:
If it was a way, I would not tell you that IT IS NOT POSSIBLE!
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] RafaelS5Neo:
Okay, you should at least be kinder to your answer.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
Have one more idea.

Im just busy. Please wait
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] RafaelS5Neo:
Okay, thank you for the attention, I'll wait, if you can not inform me that I'm going to change my cell phone
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] AbgehobenerVogel:
Some questions

Hey, I've got some questions about the rom.

1. Is the German language supported?

2. Is there a list of known bugs (or no known bugs?) so I can evaluate if the rom is suitable as a daily driver for me.

Thanks in advance and thank you for your work for the community.

:)
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] soopoolleem:
A1: Yes, Deutschland is supported under Deutsch.

A2: Mitigation OS (custom samsung nougat) by PixelBoot will be suitable if you record all calls and use some samsung experience(touchwiz) related apps/features. It seems pretty much stable at all times which makes an excellent choice for daily use. Slower in speed compared with other lineage 15.x (oreo) based roms though.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] AbgehobenerVogel:
Thank you for the answer!

But it is still faster than stock samsung, right? And how is the performance on games? Of course, I don't expect miracles.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] iveki:
Rom looks great, will test it further. Thank you
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] nanquan:
Hi, I am just wondering if this ROM is any differerent from Zapryanovv's Nougat ROM 2.1 for the Galaxy S5 Neo? I mean they are both based on the official Samsung Android 7.0 Nougat release for g-903w in Canada... so are there any advantages and/or bug fixes to this ROM over Zapryanovv's version (which I am using right now)?

For example I saw from the screenshots that the kernel build in this ROM was slightly newer... does it resolve the bug where the battery % will jump from 100% immediately to 98% as you disconnect the charger?
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] soopoolleem:
Yes, the performance while gaming is slightly better than the stock rom. No miracles :highfive:

---------- Post added at 07:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:49 AM ----------

ZapryanovvROM_N_v2.1 is indeed based on G903WVLU1CQI1 (Android Nougat). I had noticed another issue other than known bugs discussed in the original thread. It was that some ported Samsung One UI (Android Pie) apps crashed and stopped working.

MitigationOS-N went with a pure Android Nougat experience as [OP] PixelBoot had mentioned on the first page. No "100% to 98%" battery bug. I had tested it with a number of G900/G903 batteries.

Yet they are literally identical in a very structural way. Do not get confused by the screenshot. When you flash the latest MitigationOS-N, you will get kernel version 3.10.61-12067928, not 3.10.61-12264375.

I know you're struggling to find a battery friendly ROM without glitches. Try this MitigationOS-N. Debloat it and use amplify 4.0.1 (xposed module). You will see less than 7% battery drain overnight (assume 7 hours with a good Wi-Fi signal; about 120 apps installed). Alternatively you can try S5 Neo's newest stock firmware G903FXXU2BRH2 (Android Marshmallow).
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] krom77:
hello first thanks a lot for all your different work on sm-g903f ;)

According to the commentary this rom does not seem to suffer from common bug lineage based version if I understand correctly? no problem of camera, no bluetooth problem, no problem of mike, that's it? If yes I have two question, first will this rom will work in France? and is it free of google app?

thanks again ;) and sorry for my google translate language ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Snoete:
Just tried this ROM and it has the same 100 - 98% bug as the Zapryanovv ROM 2.1 (on my S5Neo G903F).

This ROM takes several seconds to unlock and is overall slower, did not see any advantages, compared tot Zapryanovv's 2.1.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] nanquan:
Thank you for your feedback man! Saved me the time of trying it out for myself.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] ilkerxc:
We want a new ROM. We want multi language support new ROM. We want S8, S9, Note 8, Note 9 new port. We want AOD.

J7 = Exynos7580

S5 Neo = Exynos7580

They're making S5 Neo ROM port for J700F but They are not making ROM port.

PLEASE ANDROID DEVELOPERS HEAR OUR MY VOICE

PLEASE HELP. THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING ME.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] GorfDroid:
Then make it yourself
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Snoete:
LOL
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] ilkerxc:
I dont know how to do it. I told you to help. Please dont satisfy your ego.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] mwnn85:
Tried putting this on my SM-G903F that running the latest BTU firmware i.e. G903FXXU2BRH2 / G903FOXA2BRH2.

No issues flashing TWRP with ODIN.

Ran into the previously mentioned black screen issue where the phone wouldn't proceed past the boot animation.

Installed zapryanovv as suggested which replaced boot.

Aside from disabling SELinux that seems to make the built-in device scanner get all upset - wanting to reboot the phone to undo the detected changes.

Wiped again.

Installed this and it works albeit with the device scanner still complaining.

I much prefer the "samsung experience" which is also running on our SM-T550 but the loss of FM Radio is a shame.

Flashed back to stock firmware with ODIN 3.12 for the moment.

Feel as though the phone still has plenty of life in it - the specs are still comparable to fairly recent offerings - it's just the Android version which is lagging.

This is probably one of the last phones which had a FM radio plus an easily replaceable battery - big jump from an old Galaxy S2 which can be used as a music player now.

I certainly wouldn't be happy upgrading to something more powerful like a european galaxy 7 only to find that it doesn't have FM radio like the USA snapdragon variants.

Don't want 18.5:9 either when all video is 16:9.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PixelBoot:
For all of you who had trouble installing this ROM onto their device, kindly refer to the OP post.

I have updated its wording and added a firmware (.tar) file to ensure that the ROM (.zip) file is able to work off of it.

If you encounter any difficulties, just let me know. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] Rovar22:
Good, good, you continue to develop, thanks for all the time you dedicate to this I have a question I have the SM-903M and the times that I installed some ROM N I have the problem that it does not detect THE SIM AND I STAY WITHOUT SIGNAL THIS ROM WILL WORK WELL IN MY DEVICE.
[Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, &] PatoKuaKua271q:
When I try to install the firmware it gives me the error "secure check fail cm" and then it doesn't progress from there, I have an SM-G903M
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
Note 9 was announce today and all the leaks were right it will be a clone of the Note 8 what's small little cheap upgrades like little bit bigger battery S-Pen take pictures and crap. The biggest disappointment was the finger print scaner that they have ready but decided to say screw you to Note customers. Samsung is trying to pull a Apple on us. Big big disappointment and Samsung wonders why the S9 was a flop why? Because you made the S9 just like the S8 to save money. Then you do the same mistake again with the Note9? Samsung you want to sell a lot of phones... Every year pack the new phones with as much new tech and change the design it's that easy. Samsung knew the S9 was a flop and why it was a flop and yall still put out this clone Note 9? I am sticking with my Note 8. Might see what other companies are doing since Samsung stuck us with this crap. Good way to loose customers. Are yall going to be suckered into the Note 9 or sticking with the Note8
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bezbozny:
I m surprised that there is no UK promotion... In the US you get free headphones worth 300usd and in the UK nothing at all...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ekerbuddyeker:
There's always a thread like this. I love my Note 8 but will definitely get the Note 9. Take a step back and look at the specs... It has EVERYTHING a power user could ever want. Best screen, biggest screen, stereo speakers, massive battery, top processor, massive memory at 6gb, insane at 8GB.. and 512GB storage!!!!! It is the BEAST! I can't wait!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NIKKG:
Will not get it, if you have a Note 8, it's barely a decent upgrade and not worth wasting your money.

I might get the next large iPhone X that comes out or the Pixel 3, but if they don't interest me, I'll keep my Note 8 for another year, its been a great phone!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
Huawei is coming out with a phone with a 6.9 in screen super slim and it has 8gb ram and 4,000mah battery. The only thing I am impressed about on the Note 9 is 8gb of ram 512GB I barely use my 64 gigabytes on this phone and if I need more I have a 256gb card in my phone too. This will flop just like the S9 did all they had to do is put that damn finger print scaner in the display and this Note9 would've been their best selling phone by far Apple fans wouldve bought one. But no they screwed us and held back. 1,257 dollars ha ha for that it better have the finger print scaner in the display and I want the whole phone redesigned. People want a fresh new phone every year. Look at the Note 7 and the Note 8 that's the kinda of change people want those 2 phone don't look alike
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Notasaurus:
Not getting it. The fact that it is releasing with Android Oreo is a killer for me. I'm tired of being the last to receive updates. Essential already has a Pie firmware out for their device, many other manufacturers were part of the Pie beta using the GSIs and Samsung held back. Now this amazing phone with over the top specs and a price to match is releasing with a year old OS and their roadmap for their other phones is targeting 8.1. No thanks, Samsung is still living in the past.

Edit: also, I don't want a purple phone or a bright yellow s-pen. The color options available today are horrendous.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Max_Terrible:
What is wrong with the fingerprint scanner that you're so upset about? You wanted an in-display reader? You have some awfully high expectations. It takes a very long time to design, prototype, test and create these devices. They've likely been working on creating the Note9 before the S9 was released. It's not just a one or two month process. Whatever it is you think that flopped the S9, they couldn't have known that would be an issue by the time they started designing the Note9. What exactly is the "same mistake" they made with the Note9 that they made with the S9 also, anyway?

Regarding your question: I'm not going to get the Note9, because I'm on a 2-year contract and I got the Note8 only about 4 months ago. I'm going to have to wait for the Note10.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] xchatter:
Nope. For two reasons:

1. I see only the battery as noticeable change (Stylus also, but for now I don't think I will use the BT functionality);

2. I am not so rich to swap phones like this. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cool Person:
Samsung upgrades their android only once at beginning of the year.

For example The S10 Will come with Android P Then Note 9 will receive it. Expect it in May 2019

Yeah this is bad. The large issue with Note 9 that their is no UX Difference and selfie camera is the same, so yeah you get an extra shutter button on s pen and a 20%

battery increase for 1200$. At this point I would just pay 300$ to get a 512 gb sd on my 64 gb note 8 if I need that kind of storage.

Weren't we promised with crown ux or samsung ditched it for the s10?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Notasaurus:
Ive never found space to be an issue with 64gb so while nice, the added storage is not driving my

desire for a new phone. The battery increase is nice. I'm definitely looking for a phone with at minimum 4000mah. I use my s-pen for sketching wood shop projects, and the occasional note and that's really all. So the enhancements there are lost on me.

You're absolutely right about the upgrade schedule. It made sense before project treble when creating the new system images took way more effort. And this isn't just directed at Samsung. I am looking for an "upgrade" to my note 8. But I won't be buying any phone that doesn't come with Android P out of the box or available through GSI. I have no problem flashing a rom to get it. It's why I love the Android platform. And maybe just because my note 8 is such a fantastic phone already, now's the time to use another manufacturers device. I was particularly fond of the Razer phone I played with at the Microsoft store and if the ROG phone ever gets released maybe that will provide me the experience I want. I'm not getting rid of my note 8, and I think it's a great phone to fall back on, but I don't see the note 9 in my future.