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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Yes, the New Jersey/Hong Kong dealers sell refurbished phones and some are totally fraudulent. I returned mine and got refund because I specifically was paying for new-in-box this time.

* Was 64GB V30 in 128GB V30+ box. :rolleyes: I paid for new US998 V30+. Wasn't new, wasn't V30+.

* had previous owner's 128GB SD card still in the phone...

* had "B&O" branded headphones -- which don't come with North America US998. If legit North American V30+, should have come with LG-branded headphones.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] bearhawk:
Thanks, once again, ChazzMatt for the insight. Reading between the lines, it sounded like they were selling refurbs (many of which appear to have broken issues.).
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] MicroMod777:
I got a really good deal on a vs996 this week from ebay for $164 refurbished in "good" condition. I bought the 2 year Square Trade Warranty on top of that for $38.99 in case anything happens. Got phone yesterday and honestly, looks basically new.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-VS9...xWYu7FUH-sak82Q:sc:USPSFirstClass!91351!US!-1
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Cobra11Murderer:
I bought mine from YYWireless on ebay for 190 ls998 converted to a us998 looks fairly new, literally has one small scratch you cant see with the screen on so I'm happy. Plus no burn in, and finger print scanner still works so probably never been taken apart! https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 plus I mean if you do not like it they send you a return label already printed out with the phone.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
First, I went back and edited some of my answers in this thread as it was first written in August 2018, and some information was outdated. T-mobile H932 was not rooted yet back then and the fix for H931/H933 to run AOSP ROMs was not discovered yet. Ignore any prices mentioned back then, as that was last year.

Second...

I used that eBay seller several times and have recommended them before in other threads. Their "9/10" listing is the one to look for, like you have. That seller has other others in various quality, like "8/10", "7/10" but with increasing dents, scratches. Two of the 9/10 I got were flawless, while the third had a slight ding on the side below the volume button no one would ever see with a TPU case on it.

From other sellers, there are allegedly still "new" V30/V30+ inventory out there but be very careful. Some are shoddy refurbished being touted as new or outright frauds:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Cobra11Murderer:
Right, I figured well if it's that bad I can send it back. But it really is new condition. I've tested everything imaginable now getting ready to upgrade it to 8.0 as I wanted to make sure it was a good phone. Also if you buy the phone while eBay has it's 8% or more back even better deal!.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AsItLies:
To add just a bit more info, as I've also gone through the same issues / concerns quite recently;

Swappa is a good place to look also. They seem to have a bit more strict guidelines and the 'mint' ls998 I got for $219 was exactly that; a mint ls998.

**Always** use the lg imei checker to verify white listed, serial numbers matching, who original buyer was (carrier), etc.

Be VEry cautious now especially, these phones are plentiful but some people will try to sell you something that isn't exactly what they say it is.

I've found that the V30(+) that I've bought all "seemed" okay. One device though was disconcerting (from ebay - new in box - serial numbers didn't match - shipping took forever - probably originated in Korea). This particular device, after wtf, would just randomly reboot once or twice a day (none of the others did that - same procedure). But the real **TeLLiNG** thing was... it would not boot an aftermarket rom (either from us998h or back to us998e - didn't matter).

All the other devices booted aosp roms no issues. And that was even from us998h (not e). So that presents a dilemma, using wtf to get the phone ready to boot an aosp rom, but then finding out something is odd about it and it won't boot it... what then? Return it and say 'it won't boot an aosp rom?'

Good luck with that.

So, this is why it's so important to do a lot of up front work, go with someone you think you can trust. Especially important if you think u might want to use an aosp rom.

I'd suggest seriously considering a good used device instead of the higher priced 'new in box' things that have a better chance of not being what they say they are. The used one I got on swappa stated specifically "only for Sprint", so I figured it was a genuine ls998, not modified something else, and it is. IMEI info is exactly what it should be, everything matches. And it is mint.

Also found a new one, on ebay. But the seller clearly stated it was the exact same thing you'd buy at a sprint store. Only worked on sprint network. And the stock was in Texas, ships and arrives in 2 / 3 days. Retail box, all imei info matches, (AND it was manufactured 6 months ago - I found out after receiving it - that's y u run imei info straight away). So that was what I went by to determine trust.

Sure enough, both of these devices will boot an aosp rom with no issues at all. And they don't randomly reboot themselves.

Just my .02, Cheers and good luck.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] felixthecat:
are there any good free programs to turn your vario 3 into a remote controll for the tv and do they work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dan5.5:
the kaiser doesnt have IR, so you CANT use it for a remote.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] leeky:
unless some engineer invent and Ir device that connect into the mini usb port. I know before grifftin had made an IR device connect into an audio handsfree output for PDA with no IR
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] meandu229:
so possibly usb mini->audio->IR?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] Conpsycon:
As you all know the final version of Android 9.0 (PR) was recently ported to Xiaomi Mi A1 by taking advantage of Project Treble. Although there are more than one Kernels out there with Treble support, there is no thread to actually compare them. So if you have tried this port, please write down your experience with the Kernel you used.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] Maximaro:
Iam using the Custom Rom Treble non OC Kernel from here: https://xdaforums.com/mi-a1/development/kernel-extreme-kernel-1-0-mi-a1-t3769702

With that i get the most Battery life out. About 2 Day´s without charging and mostly reading News, Texting with Whats App, and Listening much Music.

So not much intensive and no Gaming.

Last Charge was before 16 hours and 5 Days are left, because i do nothing with the Device =P
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] TioCareca:
what's your rom and sot?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] Maximaro:
Android Pie and this why he ask what Kernel are good for this one and you only can use Pie with Treble .

But back to SOT it is now 54min. Last charge was 41 hours ago and i have left about 1 Day and 17 hours :fingers-crossed:

So next charge maybe at least 20% in the next evening.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] marko.dnb:
My personal best from now on is eXtreme! Been using Moun on Oreo and on Pie, after using eXtreme for few days, difference was quite noticeable so imho eXtreme is the best kernel for balanced/battery life when tuned properly!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] SystemDoctor:
What did you use to tune eXtreme and what settings do you have? I'm really curious!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] marko.dnb:
Oh, I'm currently on 8.1 Liquid Remix ROM and honestly don't remember what exactly I tweaked. I've used Kernel Adiutor, changed few thing regarding CPU, disabled Fsync, enabled one CPU when screen is off, Schedule workqueues on awake CPUs, that much I can remember. I am not heavy user, just listening music on Youtube Vanced app, using social media apps, browsing the web with Brave etc... Getting 2 days without charge with 5-6hrs of sot and about 10% battery left.

Right now I didn't change anything on Liquid Remix and battery life is still amazing compared to Moun or Mint kernels. eXtreme just gives great results without tweaking anything
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] acheney1990:
I had someone suggest I leave my bootloader unlocked. I usually relock it. Does leaving it unlocked stop Google Pay and banking apps from working. Or Games like Pokemon Go?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
That was me, but other more knowledgeable folks should feel free to chime in as we all could learn something here.

As I said in the other thread, I don't know. What I do know is that Google's safetynet is more likely to prevent you from using banking apps, Pokémon Go, or Google Pay than the bootloader. Case in point, I have my bootloader completely unlocked yet I still pass safetynet. Now, if an app actively checks for an unlocked bootloader then you may have an issue, but I'm not aware of apps that check for bootloader unlock status.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
It will certainly stop Google Pay from working, as the phone will report it is insecure.

Banking apps may or may not depending on what they check for.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
Unlocked breaks Pay. I don't recall any other apps that care.

Leave it unlocked. The forums here are littered with posts that say.... help, I relocked and now it is bricked......and those phones are still bricked.

Don't do it, it's Russian Roulette.

Flash a custom kernel that hides the unlock. Most all of them do, or root it with Magisk and that will hide it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
This is incorrect.

I have an unlocked bootloader (and am rooted) and use Google Pay without issue.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
its not incorrect, an unlocked bootloader on stock Android will cause Google Pay to not work.

Your root hides the unlocked bootloader (which is why it passes safetynet)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
So you probably shouldn't be saying an unlocked bootloader will definitely stop Google pay from working.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
Except is does, nowhere did the OP mention root, I answered his question 100% correct.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
You made a blanket statement that an unlocked bootloader definitely stops Google Pay from working. We both know this isn't true.

You aren't just answering the question for OP, but also for any other user who might search for a topic like this.

You should probably edit your post to say that it will definitely stop Google Pay from working if you do not take further steps to protect safety net integrity.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
I shouldnt edit anything because its 100% accurate as answered, and as asked.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
Except that it's not.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
It is.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
It's an answer that fails to take any nuance into account, and instead chooses to declare that any unlocked bootloader will cause Google Pay to not work.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
I dont go by 'nuance' only by what the OP asked in his question, and in that regard, the answer is 100% correct.

I dont assume anything, had they asked the question differently, then maybe they would get a different answer.

Now people will go unlock their bootloader, without root and wonder why the hell Google pay isn't working, because someone said it would.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
Here's the thing: you can have an unlocked bootloader, without root, and still pass Safety Net by flashing a kernel which incorporates this patch: https://github.com/sultanxda/androi...bc05b16bbd33521c2fffaf491c5657a94bfcfc5.patch

You are continuing to ignore that you are not only answering a question for OP, but for anyone who may come across this thread.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
Nope, I only answered for the OP, with the information provided. Im not answering to anyone else.

If they are already going through all the other stuff, they wouldnt be asking the question, since you're stuck on 'nuance' and assumptions.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
You're assuming the OP wouldn't root and would not flash a kernel.

My whole point is that you shouldn't make that assumption.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
I didnt assume anything.

The answer was based on the information provided (or lack thereof).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
Did I miss where the OP said he wouldn't root and wouldn't flash a kernel?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
No, you missed where he said he would.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
Except that I didn't make that assumption!! You assumed he would not with your answer.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
No, again, and this is the last I will say it.

I answered their question 100% correct with the information provided. No assumptions of any kind. No 'nuance' as you like to put it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
You assumed he would not root and would not flash a kernel. You also made an incorrect blanket statement that an unlocked bootloader means Google Pay will not work. Total fail of an answer.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Badger50:
This is like watching a tennis match! :cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] uicnren:
No, I didnt assume it. It was not stated.

And the answer is correct.

Enjoy your day, I have much better things to do.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
So, as it was not stated, you chose to assume he would not do those things and to provide him the information that you can pass safety net with an unlocked bootloader.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] fiffan86:
Reminds me of my 5 year old and my 3 year old.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
I mean no harm, but you may owe your 5 and 3 year old an apology. They can't be that bad.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] fiffan86:
Ha ha no they are actually pretty great, they act better than what it is in this thread xD
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] DreamHazard:
So... Unlocked bootloader, Android P - any way of getting Pay to work?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] TonikJDK:
Install Magisk or a custom kernel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xjack:
Works fine for me with flashkernel and magisk/magiskhide on Android P.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] imsobored04:
So I wanted to know this same exact question.

Does an android phone with an unlocked bootloader still pass SafetyNet?

OP never said anything about planning on rooting the phone or modifying it in any other way.

So is the answer Yes or No?

I currently have my phone rooted but i can't get OTA updates so I plan on going back to stock but keeping the bootloader unlocked. I'm contemplating going back to stock and using Google Pay but I don't want to go through the hassle of going back to stock if SafetyNet will still fail my phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] quera:
Unlocked critical here, rooted with magisk, android pie and banking apps and google pay working flawlessly. Indeed I've just bought a sun screen at the pharmacy with google pay.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bpdamas:
If the only thing you do is unlock the bootloader, SafetyNet will fail and Google pay will not work. It can be difficult to sift through the banter back and forth but just unlocking the bootloader will result in not passing SafetyNet. Installing magisk can hide the unlocked bootloader to get it to work again.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] sweetbaboo:
ok, so I'm that guy who unlocked the bootloader on a 3XL, expecting to boot into TWRP pull and push a modified build.prop (unlimited grandfathered plan) and put global tether_dun_required 0 ...since I can't do that through TWRP, I should probably just flash a kernel as I don't want to install magisk. What kernel should I flash?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] simplepinoi177:
....some clarification please...

you said that you'll boot into TWRP to pull and push (via adb commands I assume), but then you state you "...can't do that through TWRP"...??? What is keeping you from going into the TWRP environment and using adb commands?

As I understand your intentions, you do

not

want to install and have magisk; but you will need root* access to modify that build.prop file -- and the only way to get root access on the taimen is to unlock the bootloader and utilize magisk and its process to gain root. So is it that you don't wish for the Magisk app? Because if that's the case, it can merely be uninstalled. Or is it something else?

But, let's say modifying the build.prop file is negligible and you really just want to have an unlocked bootloader but to continue using Google Pay and Banking apps. If that's the case, then you are correct and you do not need to root your phone. You are also correct in assuming that flashing a custom kernel helps running those apps with an unlocked bootloader. For that, you can take your pick as there are many, many options; and while I can't say 100% for sure, I am reasonably certain they all offer this same feature. A good way to decide is to go through the top users'

signature on this thread; I, myself, use Flash kernel which is one of the first to be built and (long story short) I accidentally found out I could use my Google Pay and banking apps after employing/installing. I believe it's [MENTION=3730810]Badger50[/MENTION] and/or [MENTION=4670411]Az Biker[/MENTION] that suggests Elemental kernel, and there are newer ones popping up all the time. I am sure any/all of those will work out for you.

One thing I'll leave you with and hope you keep in mind is that you don't have to install TWRP to use/utilize TWRP; all you have to do is temporarily "fastboot boot" using a twrp image file (*.img) and you can load TWRP without it actually keeping on your phone...

Hope this helps...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] sweetbaboo:
Thanks for the detailed response.

The reason why I can't use TWRP and then use adb is because it's not working yet on the 3XL.

https://xdaforums.com/pixel-3-xl/development/twrp-3-2-3-0-pixel-3-xl-t3861623

I ended up biting the bullet and installed magisk. Should've done it much earlier! May end up playing with different kernels later on if I don't want to deal with sideloading security updates.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] ChrisCloud:
Thanks for real answers

I wanted to thank you for clarifying the other user's misleading answer.

When searching for 'Google Pay Android Bootloader Unlock Root,' this thread is a top result.

I haven't done unlocking / rooting for years, so the information you provided about included protection from safetynet in many ROMs and kernels certainly was needed, let alone relevant to the OPs question.

Seeing as this is a Android development forum, nuanced information is necessary.

Glad you stuck to your guns, keeping XDA an authority on AOSP development.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mitchdickson:
You're welcome. Thank you so much for the compliment. That other guy was a dolt.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Larzzzz82:
Wow, i can't believe i just read this whole thread. As i see it, [MENTION=512944]uicnren[/MENTION] answered the question correctly as it was presented. [MENTION=4452264]mitchdickson[/MENTION], there's isn't any nuance to infer because the question was direct and not open ended. Why are you reading into it, assuming he wants root because his bootloader is unlocked? He made no mention of it anywhere.

Your last post calling uicnren a dolt, makes you sounds like a pompous ass.

As for this thread itself, it's a waste and should be locked.

A simple search and a little reading would have answered his question and provided a solution IF he wanted one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mogantivenkatesh:
Hiii. I am using SAMSUNG GALAXY J7 PRO. I enabled OEM UNLOCK, installed TWRP RECOVERY and installed MAGISK MANAGER. The SAAFETYNET STATUS in MAGISK is TRUE for BOTH options. I installed GOOGLE PAY. I hide the ROOT access using MAGISK HIDE in MAGISK MANAGER. The GOOGLE PAY app is working fine and enterd my card details. But When i Click use CARDLESS PAYMENT it is asking details and after entering it takes some time and says THIS PHONE CANNOT BE USED TO PAY IN STORES. THIS MAY BE BECAUSE IT IS ROOTED OR ALTERED IN SOME THER WAY.

PLEASE HELP.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] ilal2ielli:
You're in the wrong forum.

Go here: https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/discussion-google-pay-magisk-discussion-t3906703
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mogantivenkatesh:
Thanks
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Droid_Nut:
It would not even allow me to set it up. Let alone use it to pay? :confused:

BTW, my 3 dogs don't carry on that long when they get in a sqabble. :D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Droid_Nut:
Got it working with this method.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=79028818&postcount=5
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] simplepinoi177:
I'm glad you got it working and everything...

But as I was reading, I was wondering...had you considered flashing a custom kernel? Here's my story and commentary in a quick way...but, if anything, it explains how I came to learn about the advantages of a custom kernel and G-Pay...

But, actually, I'm sure you've at least come across the information before and had already considered it...but just in case, I put it up (if anything, just in case it helps someone else as well...)...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Droid_Nut:
Thanks for the response, the method I used was not the best. I have changed kernels in Linux, but never on my phone, can it lead to an OH Sh!t moment, where you find you phone not working or boot looping, do you just install it with TWRP? Where can I find a stock kernel just in case things go wrong? Which kernel fixes Google Pay?

Thanks
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] CyberpodS2:
Just as a side note, most if not all the custom kernels for this device are rock solid. My personal favorite are Evira and ElementalX. Don't write them off only for fear of instability. :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Badger50:
Changing kernels is easy my friend, and pretty much any of them will hide the bootloader unlock from google, however google pay can be tricky at times which is why I never use it. You can get the stock google boot.img from the factory image, or you can use mine....https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bpsu71eK0EScue8MpdaEr0uHKuBOwwsd/view?usp=drivesdk

To flash a kernel, simply do the following....

If your on a custom rom already, then just go to twrp, and flash the new kernel, then magisk.

If on stock rom, then do the same thing.

If you want to change from one custom kernel to another, then...

Flash the stock kernel

Flash the twrp installer zip

Flash magisk

Flash the new kernel

Reboot, and done :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] simplepinoi177:
Exactly this ^^ !!:good::highfive: And, you know if it's from Badger, "you can take it to the bank!"

Hey [MENTION=3730810]Badger50[/MENTION], you use kirisakura or elixir kernel, right? Whatever it is, you mind telling which one you, yourself, prefer and why? I think that's a great start, if anything... (also, I personally am curious as well...)