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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
tapv please stop doing multiple posts every couple minutes... just update your last post... I'm getting tired of the e-mail notification every time you post.

I'll get back to you with what I find. What you provided is sufficient for me to check into.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Unzip this attached file into \Program Files\JZ\helpers and try using Opera Mini 5 with my app again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tapv:
Jz what it does is it opens opera mini 5 the drop down menu drops down twice which it didnt do that before and it still isnt pasting the web address in it. Say for example I get an email through outlook and it has an a website in the email to click on then I choice opera mini 5 it opens it to the main opera page but wont paste the website in it. Do I have to change anything in you program like under the paste method to get it to work? Thanks for all you hard work
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
This sounds like a keyboard/pasting problem...

Change Opera Mini 5 > Settings > Advanced Settings > Inline Editing - change to OFF --- EXIT Opera Mini 5

JZSettings > JZBrowser > Opera Mini 5 Options > Inline Editing = OFF

Choose the appropriate pasting method --- let me know what that is for Motorola q9c

Then try it again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tapv:
JZ,

So I got it to work. The paste method is control-v but what needs to happen when your software opens opera mini 5 the center select button needs to be pushed to open up the extra window for the jbed program then it types in the whole address and then push go. Thanks for all your hard work. Good job
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
I don't get it... did you get it to work or do I need to do something different?

Under, Opera Settings > Advanced > Inline Editing, what is that set to?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TTJB:
JZ or anyone I wish someone could post clear, simple instructions exactly on how to use this application step by step for us newbies that are trying to understand. What I am trying to do by using the IphoneToday program and this wonderful application is; When I click on various icons that link to diff't web sites, I want Opera Mini 5 to open a few directly, I want Internet Explorer to open a few other directly, and UCWeb to open another few directly. I also would love to set it to when I'm checking my work email and it needs to open a link to a web site that it be done through Opera Mini5 or UCWeb also. I would appreciate anyones help since I have been trying this for months. I also don't know what I need to install JZSmartMort? Mortbutton? Please help because I believe this is what I'm looking for. And if you can give a few actual example to opening websites that would be wonderful also. Thanks!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tapv:
Its set to inline editing off on Opera mini 5 and also on your program. But what im saying as soon as your program asks what browser to use and I pick opera mini 5 it opens it up and as soon as it opens it I hit the middle joggle button which in returns opens up the window that requires no inline editing then it puts in the address. If you dont hit the middle joggle button it wont work correctly because it has to have that window to place the clipboard url.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Oh I see... looks like the MOUSECLICK that I send is not working on your non-touchscreen. I will rig something up where in Opera Mini 5 Options you will be able to choose "Press Enter Instead of Mouse Click" which will hit Enter instead of doing the PocketPC method of Mouse Clicking. Expect a change in the next version that I post and let me know how it goes once you test it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tapv:
JZ

I will be looking for it. Thanks JZ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
I like iPhoneToday, that's a nifty app...

You do not need MortButtons but that GUI does look pretty on a PocketPC

Just install my App and that's all you need to get started.

To create a shortcut, go to: JZSettings > General Tweaks Hacks > Start Menu & Shortcuts > Create Custom Shortcut

This is where you will need to play around with "Common Applications" and choose what URL opens with which browser.

Lastly, there is no way for the device to differentiate which mail account you clicked a link from so the only option that can assist you with pinning a URL/root website to a specific browser is URL Exclusions found under JZBrowser > URL Actions

This is going to be a situation of trial and error so keep creating custom shortcuts and look inside of them to see what you are actually creating with my app.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TTJB:
posting this from my cell at the gym. I think I'm beginning to understand how to do this. just one problem. I have set up links to my favorites. but when I click on icon,, it take me to JZSetting and a option of which browser I want to open the page. Now here is the question. after I select the browser it opens to the website fine. The problem is it opens to this page with the browser choice option everytime. Is there a way to make it permanantly open directly to website? I dont want to be taken to the browser select option each time! Thanks again for your help!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Give me step by step instructions of what you're doing and I'll try to duplicate.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TTJB:
JZ thanks for all of your help. I finally got this to work. I was missing one step of opening an application with my selected browser permanently. I needed to use the exclusion of URL! When I think exclude, that doesnt mean inclusion to me so I never bothered to try it. But, I guess it makes since if you choose one browser for a default and you need to Exclude a URL from opening with that browser. Anyways, I get it now and thanks for your help!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Hey, under Custom Shortcut > Common Command List, you should be able to assign "JZ Browser with Browser and URL Defined"

This means that you can do what you want without exclusions. I tested this thoroughly and it works well. Basically, anytime you open that link it will not only pass the URL to JZBrowser but also which BROWSER to use so it should NOT pop up JZBrowser.

Exclusions is a a cool workaround (with other benefits) but shortcuts can specify both the URL and Browser.

Other benefits of Exclusions is that yahoo.com/test will open with the same browser as yahoo.com/othersite because I only store yahoo.com in the exclusion list.

Enjoy and let me know if "JZ Browser with Browser and URL Defined" does not work for you (it did for me with multiple URL's and browsers). At that point, definitely give me step by step instructions.

Thanks!

JZ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Some guy badmouthing my app...

Guys can somebody please respond to my request above?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 12gage:
great owrk JZ, the new version allowed me to open URL's directly in opera mini5, and the built your own shortcut feature is great, thanks alot
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Perfect, glad it works now and that you like it... in the future I will allow adding a custom icon there as well.

Thanks to the folks that jumped in and put out the flamer on the other thread above!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] [deXter]:
Bug Report

Hi JZ. Here's one of the bugs that I face on my present setup:

App: SpeeedReader 0.83

Settings: SpeeedReader: Always use default browser - ON

Settings: JZ SmartMort: Installed to device

Action: I click on a feed entry titled "Microsoft Security Essentials Released".

Before SmartMort:

Settings: Default Browser: Opera Mobile 9.5.15954

Reaction: Opera Mobile launches with the appropriate page loaded for the entry. (http://www.msfn.org/news_story/microsoft_security_essentials_released.html)

After SmartMort:

Settings: Default Browser: Opera Mini 4.2

Reaction: This gives an "MortScript" box with the message:

"Script /news_story/microsoft_security_es not found, waiting for existance (storage card not initialized?)"

Extra Comments: Btw, the above URL appears to be the full URL but it couldn't fit in the dialog box. On SmartMort 1.5.8 beta, the full URL is visible in the error box. (Possibly because of the newer version of MortScript?)

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Device Specs: Hermes / WM6.1 / 20270 / CRC 14.1 Normal

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Btw, where can we find the changelog for 1.5.x (beta) versions? Thanks. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
6 posts above yours are the release notes for 1.5.8 beta.

I will look into it but I have to tell you that I was pretty offended with the claims you made on the other thread. Not because I'm a whiny beeyotch but because I spend a crap load of my time doing this stuff only to see one-liners that basically say "don't use JZ's app, it's crap" when your test scenario involves another app called SpeedReader... maybe SpeedReader is your problem, I hope that dawned on you... but I'll judge that for myself. Anyway, be a little sensitive when bashing somebody as I don't have to share my app at all. I wrote it for myself and as you can see have lots of fans probably due to the functionality and my willingness to help/fix stuff when reported. Next time just hit up the author and then bash away if you receive no attention.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 12gage:
not to sound like a kiss ass but I would like to thank you for all of your hard work, especially since it's free, it's greatly helped me with making shortcut to websites, java games, and opera mini. I use it very often. thanks again
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Thanks for the vote of confidence, I appreciate it! If I can only iron out all the bugs :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tapv:
JZ

Hey JZ, I just downloaded the Bolt browser and I am having the same problem with the paste method. You fixed it on Opera mini 5. THanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
That HTC Rose version of JBed was the key for your entire problem. I'm glad you made me hunt that down because that JBed version is the correct one for non-touchscreens. Opera Mini 5 finally started working on my emulator when I was thinking that Opera Mini 5 only runs on PPC.

BOLT browser: I will have an update that's only needed for non-touchsceens. Under JZSettings > Browser > BOLT Options, you will see a new Open URL Method called "3-LeftSoft-Edit" which will take care of your problem. This issue is also due to the limited JBed version which makes the software behave differently than the standard Esmertec JBed. I am still finishing up that feature as I write to you, so in my next version you should look for that new method.

Thanks!

JZ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] owilsky:
Hi JZ,

just in case you want to know :D

it seems there is a new version of UCweb browser: 7.0 beta1

Here's an (unofficial) English translation:

http://forum.ucweb.com/thread-2354-1-1.html

JZSmartMort 0.5.8 did not find this version on my Touch Pro.

Regards,

Oliver
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Hey Oliver,

Thanks for the notification but weirdly enough I visited their website and stumbled onto it already, installed it and my app (version 1.5.8 not 0.5.8) did recognize it because I check \Program Files\UCWeb\ucweb.exe --- which did exist. Then I popped a link with it and it worked so I'm not sure why you're not seeing the same results. Below are the 6 locations I check and it definitely met my check #2 below.

Thanks!

JZ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TTJB:
Hey JZ, I'm glad you got that other post issue resolved (that's how we hold things down out here in L.A. I hope your Hollywood location signature is Cali and not Florida. LOL!) I don't know if you noticed yet, but Bolt just released 1.5 and your application doesnt open up the URL directly through Bolt anymore. I'm sure you will have this resolved soon enough. Thanks again for everything!!! Also, does anyone know how to get the youtube flash content working in bolt? When I click on the selected video it ask to "Open URL"? And when I click yes it says, "Opera Invoke error". Any Ideas? Sorry to ask on your thread, I just thought maybe someone would know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Cali baby :)

This is so weird, yesterday around midnight I'm downloading BOLT 1.04 and of course now 1.5 comes out... dammit, hard to keep up :) I'll definitely look into it, thanks for the heads up!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Question about BOLT 1.5 --- can you let me know what happens for you when trying to use my app? It "almost" works for me but not well at all... but I just wanna make sure that you're seeing the same thing. When BOLT opens, my app does try to do some stuff, right? (this means that the color detection is at least working)

What device are you on? PPC or SmartPhone?

Thanks!

JZ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TTJB:
Yep, the same thing as yours. You can see Bolt trying and trying like it is searching for the right answer, and then nothing.:confused: By the way I'm using a HTC Wizard PPC. Thanks for your quick responses, I'm trying to do this at work and my boss keeps interupting.:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] owilsky:
OK, seems I have got a weird cab file.

It is installed in \program files\UCWEB_7.0\ucweb.exe

Also this is my reg entry:

HKLM\Software\Apps\UCWEB UC Browser 7.0 beta1 En\InstallDir=\program files\UCWEB_7.0

You don't have to change it for me as I don't use ucweb, just to let you know ;-)

BTW: I updated to Bolt 1.5 yesterday an JZSmartMort finds it but it does not manage to paste the url properly on my Touch Pro.

I tried the Open-URL Method [Number-3] which seems to work best for me, but I don't know which Paste Method I should use. Control-V and Control-V+Backspace don't work properly.

Any idea?

Regards,

Oliver
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Interesting... looks like they have different CABs for IP addresses that come from abroad. I might change it just so it works :)

That is so weird that BOLT does not work as expected for you... I have a Fuze which is basically a TouchPro and mine works like a charm. Did you try my new 1.5.8.1 version because only that version will have the fix for BOLT 1.5.

UPDATE:

I added the reg entry for UCWeb to be looked at so on next CAB your UCWeb will work properly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tapv:
JZ

He JZ, Bolt works great know with your upgrade. Thanks for all your hard work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tapv:
JZ

Is there any way to add tea shark to your great program?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
TeaShark is a maybe... it's old and only for non-touchscreen devices so I'm not sure if I'm willing to invest any time on that.

Glad I got BOLT working on your JBed Rose edition. Try the new 1.5.8.2 that I'm releasing as I slightly changed removal of old URL logic on all Java based browsers. Make sure I did not break anything for you on BOLT & Opera Mini.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tapv:
JZ

JZ, its not working on Opera mini 5 or bolt. It only back spaces as far as the . It wont delete www But it does in put the address. Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tapv:
JZ

Bolt is perfectly fine. I changed the option on that brower in your software. Its only opera mini 5 that it wont delete the www it will have wwwhttp. Like I said earlier the it does backspace to delete the . Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tapv:
Also im not sure if you are aware but tea shark is running a beta program which is pretty nice and comparable to bolt. Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
tapv please stop double/triple posting because people subscribe with e-mail notifications and it's annoying to get multiple e-mails. See the bottom of my post for an example of how you can update you previous posts... and not reply to yourself every few minutes.

I will fix Opera Mini 5 pasting... I am going to get it pretty close to perfect as it can be. Look for the next release and let me know how the Java browsers behave on your JBed Rose. I've tested it on my SmartPhone emulator with JBed Rose and having a problem like you are but have since fixed it and will post a newer version again.

UPDATE 1:

tested something not working

UPDATE 2:

tested something now working

UPDATE 3:

something failed

UPDATE 4:

working now...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Just tried TeaShark again and it's not good... why? because I cannot use it on a touchscreen phone (it does not react to touch nor do the softkeys work - unless my Fuze actually had hardware softkeys, which it does not) so that makes the browser available for SmartPhones ONLY which is not worth investing my time.

Thanks!

JZ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tapv:
JZ,

Got u. I understand. I will try the new update. Thanks for the hard work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] owilsky:
Hi JZ,

v1.5.8.3 is the first version that works for Bolt 1.5 for me, even 1.5.8.2 did not work, so good work! The new URL deletion routine did the trick.

However, the new Opera mini 5 beta still does not work, it simply did not recognize Opera Mini 5, I get this error message after Opera Mini was open for a couple of seconds:

ERROR: Did not detect Opera Mini 5 after 25 seconds.

0=LoopDone

72,72,72

72,72,72

0,0

1,0

Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
I'm guessing that it never worked for you before as I don't think I've ever had a color check for RGB(72,72,72)... you're also on WM 6.5 judging by your signature so that explains why MortScript/WM6.5 rounded down the actual color. I'll make sure to add that color. Do me a favor, goto Opera Mini 5 > Settings > FullScreen --- turn FullScreen on and off for me and report the error message again. It should be different from 72,72,72 as the red color on top is not that RGB value. I will add both to my next release.

Thanks!

JZ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] owilsky:
Yes, you are guessing right, I am on WM6.5. But now WM6.5 is out officially, I guess there will be more users with 6.5 in future.

Above error message is for fullscreen turned on.

For fullscreen off it is:

0 = LoopDone

224,0,0

224,0,0

0,0

1,0

Regards and thanks a lot!

Oliver
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] owilsky:
Hmmm... 1.5.8.4 still does not work for me. I still get this message after 25 seconds:

0 = LoopDone

224,0,0

224,0,0

0,0

1,0

Opera Mini 5 opens fine and is the active app.

BTW: Have you thought about supporting/using AppToDate for the frequent updates?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
I screwed up... if you flip fullscreen setting in Opera Mini 5 it will work... I will post a new version.

I've thought about AppToDate but I don't want to host another permanent location for the CAB (because that would be my home PC as I don't pay for any hosting service) nor do I want to include another icon on the start menu as I have plenty. At some point the app updates will cease for at least half a year to a full year when things stabilize.

Thanks!

JZ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] owilsky:
I could provide you with a free permanent location. If you are interested, PM me.

You don't need another icon. You don't have to include AppToDate in your cab. Its use is completely optional and only additional. Who wants to use AppToDate usually has it already installed.

Works fine now, thanks a lot!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Interesting, I thought you had to abide by certain rules is using AppToDate --- like must include that link/shortcut on the menu, etc. I should hit up MoDaCo to see the rules and start using it.

I'll also hit you up for the permanent location. Thanks Oliver!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Daved+:
It doesn't work with OM5.1b for me either :(

If I edit JZOperaMini5Run.mscr and add a second "	Call NotInlineMouseClick" in line 38, it works "sometimes".
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
Take out the extra line of code that you put in and give it another shot after a soft-reset or killing of MortScript.exe procs.

There's not much I can do because I depend on a functioning MortScript and all of its abilities. I just had the same problem as you (and have seen it randomly before) but there is no permanent solution. After a soft-reset a couple minutes ago, mine worked correctly.

If you told me that colors do not get detected, then I can deal with that. I've seen that pixel 0,0 is not always the right color. Maybe I'll start using a few pixels to the right. But your problem is not the same.

You're obviously an experienced guy, if you can't figure it out, consider me with the same options available to me.

Thanks!

JZ

UPDATE:

Let me know if the problem continues and I'll switch the pixel location of what I'm detecting...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Daved+:
Doesn't seem to be a pixel position problem, it's just the mouseclick isn't working I think.

I tried a soft-reset, didn't make any difference.

Maybe we can add some stuff to double check if the mouseclick actually worked and retry if it didn't? You do a lot of stuff in this script, maybe you're already doing it....

If I can help you working this out, count on me! I really like your app!

Do you think it's better to have the inline url on? What about fullscreen?(doesn't seem to make any difference)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JZ SmartMort:
I don't want to do more color detection for whether the mouse click worked or not because that will be a speed tax and too heavy on the code side.

I'm on a Fuze which is like your Touch Pro and I know that others are also using that device and have it working. Seems weird... try uninstalling my app, then MortScript, then re-install my app which will also re-install MortScript, maybe that will help.

Try with all methods like FullScreen on and off --- I usually turn off InlineEditing because it's simply faster, so flip that setting as well in OM5beta and my app, then test.

Let me know how it goes and thanks for the kind words!

JZ