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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
For example because FairEmail will recognize and disabled tracking images in received messages. For example because FairEmail by default does reformat messages to remove unsafe elements, styles and scripts.
[Android Apps and Games] iwanttoknow:
But what about what is written in the mail ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure what you mean by this. It this about reading or writing messages?
[Android Apps and Games] iwanttoknow:
In the two cases.

What is the privacy protection advantage when reading or sending emails by using FairEmail ?

If my emails are managed by Gmail, how FairEmail can help improving privacy protection ?

Thanks for your time.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I received an example message with an image where the width and height were swapped in the HTML. If would be easy to correct this in FairEmail, but I am hesitant to add this because I am afraid for side effects. What do you think?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Gmail is known to scan your messages for targeted ads. This is not something FairEmail can fix. For this you'll need to switch to another email provider. See the FAQ for suggestions.

That said, FairEmail will still prevent scripts, images, etc from tracking you when viewing received messages and has a number of warnings to prevent phishing, like the sender and reply domain name being different.

Try FairEmail for a while and you'll see.

Besides this, FairEmail is a complete and stable email client, which in any case will not track you and analyze your behaviors.
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
Won't encrypting mails solve the issue? Keys could be exchanged over another secure channel.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Of course and that is the whole point of end to end encryption.

Good point as well: FairEmail supports both PGP and S/MIME encryption.
[Android Apps and Games] iwanttoknow:
Is it meaning FairEmail could send and receive encrypted emails ? I don't think so.

I think that I don't understand the exact goal of FairEmail.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The goal of FairEmail is to help you protect your privacy and this will even be the case if you use Gmail.

Try it and you'll likely discover soon a message with a tracking image (=invisible image that is just there to track you).
[Android Apps and Games] Lostwarriorram:
I'm going to swing this for [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION].

There are 2 components to email system. Server (email provider) and client (FairEmail)

The email provider (Gmail, yahoo, etc) sends and receives the emails from other email providers across the world (if you send email from your Gmail account to your friend's yahoo account).

The client (this could be web browser or Gmail app or FairEmail) helps you access your email account and enables you to read emails, create folders, compose emails, etc.

Anytime you receive an email to your account, it gets stored in the server until you delete. This allows / helps the email provider to use their code to inspect(read your email through computer code) your emails. When they find keywords like Nike in your email content to your friends, the server starts displaying Reebok, Nike addidas etc related ads while you are checking your email in browser or client (this is why they can give the entire service for free).

In addition, the marketing emails that you get from various companies like (20% discount on our running shoes only thsi weekend) etc has tracking mechanism that triggers when you open the email in a browser or email app. They receive analytical data stating how many have viewed the email, clicked on the image within the email,, etc.. Fairmail prevents all these tracking while any other app like Gmail app does not.

In addition, if you truly appreciate privacy, just use PGP encryption between you and your friend in FairEmail client. Basically, FairEmail uses your certificate to encrypt the email message and send it through Gmail or any other service provider. Since the server does not have the key to decrypt the email, it cannot inspect / read the email. The server just forwards the email to your friend who's FairEmail client will decrypt and allow your friend to read.

If you respect privacy, you will have to do 2 things. 1. Choose a email service provider who will not inspect your email and sell it for advertisement purposes (e.g protonmail, mailbox, etc) 2. Use FairEmail client instead of other email client apps. I don't read my email in browser at all (unless I absolutely need to), since FairEmail strips all the tracking images, etc. for me, however, browser loads many images by default.

Hope this helps. Ask away targeted questions but please be polite. I can help as time permits.

Note: I have no relationship with FairEmail team other than the fact that I am a paid customer. In fact [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] rejected my feature request but the credit needs to go where it deserves. I'm just a privacy enthusiasts.
[Android Apps and Games] Ikearat:
Gmail And The "Accont Missing" Message.

I tried to use my 4G service instead of my WiFi as my usual place to stop and check mail is under new management and they have locked-down their WiFi and refuse to grant customer access.

I am getting refusal to access account issues from Google so I deleted my Gmail account from FairEmail. (the refusal comes in the form of a Notification with a link to click. I went home and entered this link into a proper browser and I get redirected away from the target to something inside of google that is not part of the issue. (complaints have been sent)).

I exited FairEmail and Force Stopped it and cleared the cache.

I then restarted FairEmail, checked to see that it has access to the Internet through NetGuard (checked mail on another account). It does.

I then opened the Wizard to create a gmail account and I see the screen telling me to "grant permissions to select an account and read your name, it says "Done".

The next field has my name populated in it... (this name is on no way related to my gmail account)

When I tap "Select Account" I get a tiny little blue and white message that says "Account missing".

Let me add... I do not have any email accounts setup on the phone through any other email client or in the phone it's self. I do not use ANY google applications on my phone, if they are not disabled, they are turned-off for this user with ADB.

I have tried:

1.) Changing the name to my gmail user name (with attention to caps).

2.) Putting my full gmail address in the field.

3.) pulling out all my hair (this last step always fails 'cuz I am old and bald).

ikearat

I can setup the account manually and it works through WiFi but not 4G.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Sorry for your hair ...

To use the Gmail quick setup wizard, you'll need to configure an on-device account. The alternative is to use an app password, please see this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq6

Google is rather critical about security, so notifications like these are not uncommon. However, they seem to happen more often when using your account password, less often with an app password and even less often when using OAuth (the quick setup wizard).
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Beautifully and clearly explained.

You would make an excellent teacher.
[Android Apps and Games] iwanttoknow:
Thanks a lot for your detailed answer. It permitted a better understanding about FairEmail and its tracking prevention.

"Ask away targeted questions but please be polite. I can help as time permits."

It was always the case.

"I'm just a privacy enthusiasts."

As me and Marcel knows it. He always answered to my questions particulary about NetGuard and helped me to technically progress.

I'm following Marcel and NetGuard a long time ago and its involvement for our privacy protection.

I have also discovered that FairEmail was sometimes poorly rated as Marcel indicated it. The same for NetGuard. It's really a pitty ; I don't understand it. Perhaps it's related to a lack of technical knowledge of people.
[Android Apps and Games] Lostwarriorram:
No worries. I know, I quoted your message but my intention was to answer others in the thread as well.

I agree on the lack of technical knowledge causing people to down vote.... it's human thing. We want to be on the right all the time. Anything outside? We will get defensive and trash others..

Appreciate [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]'s work. Hope this project can continue until it gets bought out by privacy respecting company.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have no plans to sell any of my apps. I have sold once a piece of software and it was turned into a privacy monster despite promises not to do this.
[Android Apps and Games] iwanttoknow:
Fully agree.
[Android Apps and Games] Lostwarriorram:
Understood. I originally meant to say, this project turns into a profit churning business. Things are not sustainable in long term at this pace when one person is solely involved. Appreciate your dedication.

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Thank you. Appreciate the kinds words.
[Android Apps and Games] iwanttoknow:
Your explanations about FairEmail could be included in the FAQ if Marcel agrees.
[Android Apps and Games] jw111:
In addition to the other privacy features mentioned, I like using FairEmail because it is easy to see the headers so I can tell if something is spam or phishing. Also I like being able to see what any links point to and who owns them before I click on them.
[Android Apps and Games] Ikearat:
Don't Lose Your Mind If Google Won't Play Well With Your Friends.

Ouch! (Not the hair thing, the on-device google account thing.)

As I posted, I don't use google applications on the phone. Earlier, in a different post I said "unless I have too".

I don't need the gmail account bad enough to jump through google's flaming hoops.

I will simply go in and set the account to forward everything to my other account which works without all the 2-factor O-app b.s.

My passwords are lengthy and I'm not bothered by the prospect of someone hacking my email. So what, they see my Mom sending pictures of her cat.

Any on-line resource that allows you to alter or add to an agreement through email is already trash for security and you should not be using it.

Never "secure" your on-line tools with email accounts. Never use "recovery email accounts" and never use password managers on mobile devices.

Avoid 2-factor like the plague as it almost doubles your surface area for an attacker. Besides, lose your phone and you have given away all your security, AND you yourself can't get back in as the security keys are being sent to the thing you no longer possess! Read the struggles google customers have when they no longer have access to the "original device" or can no longer "go to the original location".

Thank you for the link to the FAQ, I swear I searched the FAQ before posting and did not find that. I must have been using words that don't produce that result... my bad.

I can see clearly where my problem is, Google does not like AT&T.

"You might get the alert "Please log in via your web browser". This happens when Google considers the network that connects you to the internet (this could be a VPN) to be unsafe. This can be prevented by using the Gmail quick setup wizard or an app specific password."

I use AT&T and google does not seem to consider this connection "safe". Actually, I bet AT&T is doing this to promote their own services. My other email service is not affiliated with any phone brand and it works just fine.
[Android Apps and Games] Jo VDG:
Well, in the "share..." dialog when I try to share eg. a picture or file. Was this the intention? It took me a few seconds to find FairEmail because of this new color :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The grey icon has been removed in the latest versions again ...
[Android Apps and Games] Jo VDG:
I just updated from f-droid to github version, and noticed this. I'm so confused now!! ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The number of 1 and 2 star Play store ratings is lately higher than ever, which is rather demotivating. People are unreasonably demanding and don't give me most of the time any chance. I am starting to think that they just deserve ignorant big companies that do not care about their privacy at all.

I am understanding more and more why developers like chainfire quited. Maybe I am just stupid.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
As someone who loves this app I dont know what to say to make you feel better. There are over 100k downloads from the play store and I am sure there must be at least tens of thousands from git hub assuming git hub downloads are fewer than play store. The point I am trying to make is that there are thousands who like Fairemail and use it everyday. I understand after all the effort you put in , it is devastating to hear negative criticism but take solace from the fact that the naysayers are only a handful compared to those who cherish this app. Good luck and thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] Elektron60:
Hey! You are the good one. Please ignore the stupids. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
True for most people. Users of your apps are not "most people".
[Android Apps and Games] iwanttoknow:
Marcel,

You will find below a french article about Internet criticism.

https://lepodcastdumarketing.com/comment-gerer-la-critique-sur-internet-10/

For me you're like Edgar Snowden, a privacy advocate. The more noble the cause, the harder the blows.

You embarrass a lot of people and organizations.

Don't give up. The cause you are defending is noble.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Today there is no change in the number of bad ratings and how I feel about it. It is just depressing. The average rating of FairEmail is going down faster than ever.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1329 is available for download, changelog:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Just for information, all ProtonMail apps are open source.

https://protonmail.com/blog/android-open-source/
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I was aware of this, but that doesn't help an average user to migrate away from Protonmail when the need arises.
[Android Apps and Games] Friedel25:
Hello Marcel,

I'm sorry to hear that. Fortunately, however, the reviews in the German Play Store still alternate between 4.7 and 4.8.

The average of the last week was a little more than 4.8. Two weeks ago the average of the week was nearly 4,9.

In many of the bad reviews the reasons are very far-fetched and mostly demonstrably wrong: you pick out a mostly small detail and then give it a 1-star review. So I think that there are also fake reviews among them. The same applies to a 1-star review yesterday. Unfortunately, there are always 4-star reviews of users who are completely satisfied and apparently do not award 5 stars on principle.

Please don't get discouraged and look at 5-star reviews like these instead (translated from German with DeepL).:

"So far perfect, top? the support from marcel is lightning fast, if you need some info, it goes very fast. the app is worth every cent! ... Also the search function is awesome!!! ... (22.09.20)

"... As a beginner, you can set up the app with little effort. It is clearly structured in terms of appearance and content, without gimmicks and frippery. It is a TOOL in the best sense of the word. ... 6,99 € is more than fair for a tool of this quality!" (20.09.20)

Great mail program. I also used K9, but somehow found the program a bit old-fashioned. I like fairmail also optically well. The app is not overloaded and you come with everything well real. If something doesn't work you are always led directly to the solution by clicking on help. ... (19.09.2020)

"Best Email App for a long time" (19.09.20)

"By far the best email app!" (19.09.20)

"Can really do everything. So far my best mail program" 17.09.20)

"just perfect, it couldn't be better, bought right away" (17.09.20)

"Finally a respectable open source mail program that protects privacy!" (17.09.20)

"Top mail client, fast support, since the last update even Samsung Dex compatible" (17.09.20)

"... You can just repeat it again: RESPECT for this wonderful work!!!" (12.09.20)

" ... Outlook, Gmail, etc. In my opinion this app surpasses even the popular, mentioned apps in everything, including design. It has many possibilities to set everything you can think of, but it is still easy to use and very fast. (11.09.20)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, you can enable receipts in the send dialog and set the default type in the send settings.

If you disabled the send dialog, you can enable it again via the three-dots menu of the message composer.
[Android Apps and Games] Ikearat:
A Non-Feature Feature Request

Marcel,

Have you ever considered writing your own browser?

With what you know about networking, that combined with the jerky-b.s. we all know and love that is called Android and the beautiful way FairEmail works, "FairBrowser" would be awesome!

There is something in this thought. Many applications in Android use the browser to fetch information... even your apps do it. I would like to have a browser that is completely on-device, using no/zero server-side processing and fetches only the content described in the source URL. Something that eliminates the need for a "full featured" browser like Firefox (that phones-home like mad). And if this application came from you, my trust would be instantaneous! And money would change hands :)

ikearat
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I use Duckduckgo's browser but would definetly purchase a FairBrowser.

Great idea.
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
You mean such a 'simple' software like a browser?

Such a simple software which even Microsoft wasn't able to make accordingly and instead now uses Google engine now within 'their' browser? ?

Edit: how about solving the phone home yourself. Here's how you could do it: setup a simple approved VPN software to your home router (you could use dynDNS to do so), then setup a simple Pi hole, configure your dhcp/(open) VPN to use your dns, add personal block lists. 'done'.

And no, I am not kidding. I use an even more complex setup for this. But the suggested solution is cheapest external, for all your network devices working solution.

Limited to your device it could be simplified: change your hosts list on your device, point unwanted phone home domains to local device (127.0.0.1). Done

Even more simple (for you) : ask someone else todo the work, e. G. Ask for making a privacy enhanced browser. ?

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Oh, there are still another approach : try and trial existent privacy enhanced browsers, decide if it works good enough in terms of privacy and let us all know, so others can profit from your invested time. ?
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
Hello,

I'm trying to add a new contact clicking or long-pressing either the email adress or the generic icon on the left hand-side of the email address but I have no windows poping-up. Is this just me? Do I need to set something specific in settings?

When clicking on the icon of an existing contact, then no problem, the contact window pops-up immediately.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is unclear to me if you want to add an email address of a received message to the Android address book (for that there is an address book icon in the addresses section between the message header and message text) or that you want to add an email address to a message you are composing.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will keep maintaining my existing apps, but I won't develop any new apps anymore. It shouldn't be a surprise that I am pretty tired of impatient people unfairly rating 1 star for things that are not related to the app at all, like for example:

("Unable to link my free mail account")

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq157

So, you'll have to use a browser of a big company or of an independent developer and hope he won't give up for similar reasons.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Fairemail is the best, most efficient app I have ever used! Email or otherwise! It is already miles or kilometers ( depending which country you are in:) ) ahead of the others so from my perspective even if it is maintained it will continue to outshine everything else!
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
Ha! Thanks. It was the first part. and I didn't notice the address book icon.

Your app is great, and you are great. You have a solution for everything!

:good:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is yet another new version available for download, version 1.332:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Most of the recent changes are related to processing operations, which happen asynchronously from maintaining an account/folder connection. The main challenge is to synchronize both things in case of connectivity changes and in case of errors. The goal of the changes was to reduce battery usage in specific situations.

Please report any issue discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

I got a mail asking for a list of documents. I sent links to all those items using list - numbered. Works fine. Next step was to add some additional comments, for which I wanted to turn off the numbering as this isn't really a part of list

Edit: Hitting enter adds a new number, I want to turn that off

Couldn't figure a way to do that

Thanks again for a superb app. More I use, I realize how powerful it is,yesterday it was targeted search
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will see if numbering (listing) can be turned off on a new line with an empty list item.

Edit: https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/a07eb7a184f93e6668cc760a08ef3db29246fd59
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail is "useless" 1 star :(

I am getting to old for this ungratefulness, maybe I should just retired.

Don't worry, this app will be maintained and supported, but don't expect new features anymore.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
The guy has probably just been released from a juvenile delinquency centre. Moron, idiot , stupid. . Can I get more abusive?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Imagine yourself working on a big project to actually help people and somebody is each and everyday saying things to you like "useless". How soon would you give up?
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
True! I understand your feelings but for every one person who says " useless" there are ten who say " fantastic ". You have the highest rating in the play store. For a while stop looking at the ratings. Again- I understand your emotions but believe that they are the ones with no IQ
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
For the average rating to be constant there needs to be 14 five star ratings for a 1 star rating, explaining why the average rating is going down about each and every day. Maybe I need to let this go and concentrate on other things than FairEmail.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks Marcel, you are amazing in your responses, despite demotivating reviews
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I do my best to cope with it, but it is not easy to stay motivated.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
All the best Marcel. I continue to wish for you and I am not alone
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
I have been using Android since gingerbread and I have not seen any app with a 4.7/4.8 rating after 100000+ downloads. The highest I have seen is 4.6. Editors Choice apps are often no more than 4.5 . That should say something, Marcel. If I am wrong someone please correct me!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1333

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Enter in an empty list item will stop listing now (both bulleted and numbered) [MENTION=6285129]beeshyams[/MENTION]

Please report any issue you discover.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks Marcel. Works very well ??