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[Touch CDMA Android Development] vtcx:
SDK 0.9 working on HTC Mogul

I installed the latest version on a Sandisk 4G SDHC card. Dumped all files from DZO's website into the root directory of the SD card. Android runs!! I can make calls and browse the web (make sure a valid data connection is active first before going to Android). The web browser is nice and really fast, way better than PIE.

Media scanner does not recognize my card, Im using radio 3.42.02 and the wm6.1 stock htc rom. Also can not get out of suspend mode. Phone also rebooted after an incoming call. Will test GPS outside later on.

Q and shift on the keyboard seem to be home/back/menu. The onscreen keyboard looks great, but impossible to type on. The touchscreen is like super sensitive, you have to closely tap icons to get stuff to activate otherwise it behaves weird. This makes navigating websites difficult too.

I have to say that Im really impressed, this is great work. Soon we will have a choice, finally, on what OS is in our phones.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] brunes:
Once you launch the web browser.... how can you exit it? I have tried every key and menu I can think of can't figure out how to close apps or get back to the main screen.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vtcx:
I hit Q/Shift/windowskey multiple times, more than two, than wait for a second or two and it goes back to Home. Play with the keyboard, maybe the "action" buttons fall on different keys.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
I've updated the kernel so it shouldn't reboot after calls now and added the global time, sms and ssh apps to system.gz. I haven't tested it much so let me know what doesn't work.

To add other apps put them in a folder called AndroidApps on the sdcard and they will be copied to /data/apps on boot.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
sweet! vib feedback is back!

...so a far as sound goes do i have to do a rom flash?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
What radio version do you have?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] brunes:
dzo, curious, how far away are you do you think from the camera working? I see the app is there but it just launches some strange screensaver thing.

I am super excitied about the possibility of trying the ZXing library / AndroidScan.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
1.60.30

i have scoured the web to figure out how to rom flash from an ubuntu Box. all the insuctions use an .exe file for M$.

i would love to up grade tho cuz my carrier offers rev a but my phone firmware disables it.

sorry to take this off topic... not really an android issue.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] brunes:
Your best bet is to download VMWare Server and install XP, you can flash from in there if you map your USB port.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Bujanx:
New version works pretty well.

Won't shutdown though =( Just keep getting the shutdown progress bar.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] NaftoliGug:
I tried installing the ROM upgrade from VirtualBox, and it didn't work. When I subsequently installed it from a real Windows computer, I may have discovered the reason: In the beginning of the upgrade process it disconnects and reconnects as a different type of device.

In VMware Server I don't think there is a way to say to connect any possible USB device, but VirtualBox (personal edition, I don't know about OSE) has a feature called USB filter which will automatically connect the specified device. I think that an empty filter will connect any USB device.

In any case, I don't think that you have to have an ActiveSync partnership for it to work, so if you have a friend that has a computer with ActiveSync you won't have to mess up any of his settings.

Also, when you run the program it extracts a bunch of files to a temporary folder, including the .nbh files. It may reach this stage even if ActiveSync is not installed. So possibly you could run it on any Windows computer and get the nbh files, and then there might be some way to reflash it without ActiveSync.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jmezquita:
Wow! Big keyboard w/ haptic feed back & sound! great update. I can make and receive calls, but I cant hear the other person though. If I bring up the keypad and dial some numbers while on a call I can temporarly hear the call sound over the speaker phone, but then it cuts back off imediatly. Still fun to play with though. Thanks DZO. Oh, and the media player works well, I think its running VGA though, while playing music I can see the tops of the Cd "Cover Art", but it is cut off by the name of the song. I can also set songs as ringtones. Its getting there!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
has anyone tried http://m.youtube.com ?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bombzhome:
Works pretty nicely on Titan/Mogul. Only thing is the speaker makes like a slight buzzing noise. I could receive a phone call and have a conversation just fine.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bogus83:
What about initrd.gz? I only ask because it's included in android-new.zip, but not mentioned in the post.

Also, a quick question- I understand that if you have an active data connection running before Android is launched, the connection works in Android. Is this also true if you're sharing a data connection via ActiveSync? I don't have a data plan, but I'm interested in playing with maps and/or the browser in Android, and I'll be able to share my desktop computer's internet connection through ActiveSync over USB.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
No, USB doesn't work and won't for a while.

Somebody asked about the camera too. I imagine when the first handsets are released it will be much easier to get the cam working so I'll wait till then.

Yes, you do need initrd.gz but it hasn't changed since the last version.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] neilson:
Any chance with Android 1.0 that we'll be able to calibrate the screen? That's my biggest problem at this point with the Titan, Android 0.9 is good but it seems like because "Settings" is unavailable for now, it's making it limited in what we can do.

Also, what other button combos work on my Titan besides the Q key and the Shift key?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
anyone else having issues with SMS? i got one but all it said was unknown. there was no option to read it and clicking it did nothing. am i just blind or not thinking straight....?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] maxdamage2122:
I have come across HTCFlasher but haven't tried it yet: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=399762
[Touch CDMA Android Development] brunes:
I can't say for sure since I have yet to look at anyof dzo's stuff beyond trying it out, but from a coder's point of view I imagine maing the screen calibration work will be a very simple matter once someone comes out with a screen calibration application - which would have to be included with the first shipping android handset. Calibration should simply be a matter of adjusting the X/Y inputs from the touchscreen driver by a given margin based on the values the calibration app hands you for touching some known coordinates.

So it will come for sure.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Magister2k7:
Data connection works? If yes, what your's radio version?

And what about sound? I mean, playing media files. Does this works?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] neilson:
My audio on my Titan does NOT work with Android. I tried the ringtone trick and still no luck.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
Thanks, I am researching this right now. Once I figure out how to flash the new rom in, I will write a brief how-to for those of you who are using older Radio's like myself. This sounds like a must, since the latest version causes android to freeze anytime a sound is gonna happen. On the bright side, it should give my phone rev-a/gps capabilities.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jmezquita:
Seems to want to work, when I click a video, it first has a load screen with a yellow spinning circle, then it goes into a media player with rewind, pause, & fastforward buttons. Even though the sound plays I get no video.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wojteko:
Android is launching today apparantly :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] DssTrainer:
Only the G1 from T-mobile is being unveiled today, but won't actually be out until mid-october. But hopefully google does us proud... a lot of people are riding on high hopes for Android... tho the G1 already looks a bit weak from its leaked specs (no stereo BT, no video capture, and its a bit plasticy looking)

http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/22/meet-the-t-mobile-g1/

But we don't care about that hardware, we just want Android on our HTC Vogues/TyTns/Diamonds and more!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] olografix:
SDK 1.0 Anyone?

Hey all, I'm not sure what SDK 1.0 means for us, but I hope it can help dzo in the great work he is doing. See here :

http://code.google.com/android/download_list.html
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
New installer has been put up over at http://www.myhtcphone.com

It is Martin's latest release.

Side note, I tried renaming default.txt to startup.txt and it still took me to the run screen so I didn't change that in the installer.

Side side note. http://www.myhtcphone.com has brought in enough to cover hosting costs for the month so anything donated now goes straight to Martin, with a bit going to unsungboxer as well. Show your support for these two.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Cool, I'll try to get it running today. I'm also very close to getting power collapse to work properly, it resumes once but always crashes the second time. With this working, the battery should last a lot longer.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natelust:
browser

How do i actually quit the brower once it starts. It used to be that end would take you to the home screen, so did left. but now left dose not work, and end locks the screen. I hate to reboot just to get out of the browser. Im running on an actual phone
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
only wa i found to exit the browser is to use the volume up repeatedly.

Martin, does the power button do anything anymore?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Volume up is the back key, that will get you out of the browser eventually. We do need a home key now, I might map the power button to be a shift key, when pressed it would give you volume up/down and remap the dpad centre to home. How does that sound?

I've just had a look at the 1.0 emulator and it's really no different in terms of features, but messages works now on qvga so I will add it asap.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
dpad center would probably be bad as it might get a lot of accidental clicks. could you possibly map a key hold? like hold the power button to go home? if you could do that, that would change things considerably. Here's my ideal setup:

Volume rocker: Volume control

Camera button: Press - Keyboard, Hold - Menu

Power button: Press - Back, Hold - Home
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gissentml:
how do i get this off my phone.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
reset your phone
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Hi,

I've just updated android-new.zip with the 1.0 sdk. The SMS app now works and when you press the cam button it rotates the screen. You will need to copy data.gz and system.gz to your card and delete the old ones since the data images are not compatible. On first boot it takes quite a while to uncompress the images and set up the new data.

Have fun.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natelust:
calls

I know that I have read that some people are having trouble with calls. Is that everyone? When i receive a call, it begins to be heard, but then fails completely. I can however get sms messages. Once this phone call issue is worked out, and the power is better addressed, this is getting close to full time usage!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
Thanks for doing this Martin! btw, on your site I think its the package you have titled "New SDK Version (0.9)"

... this is actually 1.0 right?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] a5ehren:
I just tried this for the first time - it's pretty neat (especially once I got data working...future tip - make sure to open a data connection in WinMo before booting Android). Keep up the good work!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
Messaging APK looks nice. I'm surprised at how close 1.0 is to .9. Infact, I was hoping for some more out of it so that Martin wouldn't have to do so much work. Camera, Settings Menu, Bluetooth, etc. Well it looks like we have the final product. Maybe now with the recent hype it will bring in some additional developers. Martin what are your thoughts on 1.0, and what is your plan of attack for the rest of the port?

-Jake
[Touch CDMA Android Development] neilson:
Since I didn't see a thread about the Titan, I'll ask it here in the established thread.

Can the keyboard for the Titan be coded to work with Android just the same as the keyboard for the G1 is? It can't be that hard with an open source operating system like Android to get all the buttons on our phones(Titan, Vogue, or otherwise) to work on Android like they do on Windows Mobile. That's what I want to see.

Also, the ability to not only dial phone calls, but if I'm going to dial my voicemail then I want to be able to enter my password and not have the dialer put 2 numbers in vs. just 1 per tap.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] roxorz:
i thought the same thing. doesn't really look like much of an upgrade
[Touch CDMA Android Development] moekind:
i load this on to my bell vogue,

and it doesnt go past this in haret

2.5155401J SMD ch 2 CLOSED -> Opened

_ ( <- that keeps blinking )
[Touch CDMA Android Development] makkonen:
Slightly more elegant way (still not at all elegant, but we're on the bleeding edge and trying to emulate the function of about 40 buttons with only 6) is to pop up the menu, open a new browser window, and then hit back to get to the desktop.

Pretty exciting to see how well this is all working. Thanks to everyone who has put in all the time and hard work; first and foremost, Martin.

And now a request. With the new keyboard setup and the screen rotation, it is almost feasible to type things of reasonable length. (That haptic feedback is weird -- but I like it.) Buuuut... my fat thumbs keep obscuring what keys I'm hitting (and the slightly off touchscreen isn't helping -- gotta go find the instructions to calibrate it again for the new version). Wouldn't it make sense for the pressed key, instead of getting larger in place, to pop up above the key, telling you what's being hit? Like Touchpal and, I think, the iPhone keyboard.

And I'll agree with those who were expecting more from 1.0. I'm thrilled with Android in concept... open source, game changing, field-leveling, exciting stuff. But chrome on an android-vogue still doesn't seem up to the level of opera on a winmo-diamond -- I know, I know, prerelease, different hardware, not a fair comparison. But even the videos of the G1 that came out on engadget today didn't show a super smooth, responsive, and, most-important, intuitive browsing experience.

...and I guess I'm still waiting for all the fancy stuff like the amazon store and all the new whizbang-type apps. Gotta wait for that opensource tide to rise and lift this ship up. My guess is Android's gonna be a really impressive system -- in about a year.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eoche007:
First of all I would like to say a big thanks to Martin. I've followed this thread and Android on the Vogue for a while now, and with the new SDK release, I have to say that this is the 1st time I've run Android for over 3 hours as a functioning phone, I've had threaded conversations with 4 of my friends, and I've received and made calls over that span, without the phone crashing.

I just have a few questions, with the new SDK only a few songs a playing from my storage card. For some others, it says files cannot be played....is anyone getting this problem too? Also, how do you add applications to Android? Thanks for all your help.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] moekind:
whats the user name and password

for bell data settings?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
@unsungboxer. i saw that you were having troubles updating and just had a simple question. have you tried doing it via sd?

@dzo: AWESOME! i leave for a few days and look what happens...way excited to try this out! thx a lot! (now we just need to have it on the touch hd for when i buy that and then with that hardware and android software

EVERY

other phone will be BLOWN away! lol)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sadoway:
settings

when will we get the full settings?

i know its probably alot of work still.

i realy wish i kept up with code. cuz i would love to get my hands dirty.

i might have to get back into it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] brunes:
Honestly I don't know why so many seem to want the volume hardware mapped. Really, day to day, how often do you change your phone volume? If it were software only and easily available I would be fine with that.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] roxorz:
i'd kinda rather have the center button for the menu. it makes more sense considering the iphone uses there center button as the home button. and as far as accidental hits how hard is it to go back to the program you were in?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
Does Google Maps work with the Vogue's GPS? obviously theres no accelerometer :(
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
Hey Jim,

I am not having any problems getting android loaded. I have run into a barrier though. Whenever something tries to make a sound (even a beep), my phone freezes.

The problem is that my carrier (among many) has not released an EVDO Rev-A update yet. As Martin stated, sound only works with the newer radio version.

My secondary issue, is that all the Rom upgrades for my radio require the use of Windows, but I used Ubuntu. Lastly, finding a compatible rom itself is difficult.

I am sure I will work through them, and report back.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Magister2k7:
And what about data connection? Can you browse internet?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pchasco:
This is awesome! Thanks Martin!

Here are some issues I'm experiencing and wondering if I've just missed the solutions for them. It's easy to do in 94 pages!

Issues:

* Will not redial data connection

* SD card not found (Tried both a 4 and 8 gig, FAT32 formatted)

* Screen "jumps" while keyboard is up when certain controls have focus (combo control)

* Cannot input text into SMS app.

* Still "?" for batter meter

Other than these few things, it's starting to look pretty solid! It will really help once Google add the functionality for on-screen keyboards to their SDK.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] neilson:
Internet works if you create the data connection before launching Android.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] brunes:
Can anyone give any tips on how to get the SD card to work? Media scanner doesn't seem to do anything. I can't download any apps from the web without an SD card.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Magister2k7:
It doesn't works for me! I'm getting "can't access tty, job control turned off", and there is only loopback interface. Which radio are you using?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Key tones

I've just installed 1.0 on my HTC Touch, and my phone calls now have audio again, however I can't check my voicemail (with Telus) as the keytones don't seem to register on the other end.

Also, when I receive a call and the screen is off, it seems like the screen won't come on again, and the phone keeps ringing, long after the other end has hung up.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cyburke:
same problem im having on my sprint touch.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tstack77:
copy to the root of the memory card (not in an Android folder)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] shark1987:
so I'm sure ya'll know already but for some reason it wouldn't run on my 8GB card, but I popped in my 4gb card and it worked. Both SDHC of course.

Weird, but I'm just glad I figured out hte problem.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] shaen9:
I have a strange problem and i was wondering if anyone else also had it. I haven't been able to boot since the m5 builds but 1.0 boots to the graphic loading screen and stops. I can bring up the keyboard but that's all
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
This should work now, though it only seems to play video in portrait mode (perhaps it uses the sensors to switch to landscape). A new kernel with working youtube is at

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage

and in android-new.zip
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
geez dzo, on vacation or something? you have been making updates like crazy
[Touch CDMA Android Development] FireSlash:
Would it be possible to actually install android onto the phone? While booting to it from windows was great during testing as this comes more mature the limitations of this method become more annoying.

Just tried 1.0 on my Titan, the touchscreen is flaky as all hell. When I use my finger or even the stylus to scroll the app pane, it twitches out, randomly jumping to the bottom, and often opening a random app.

After a few minutes, the browser kept opening, jumping to the prefs screen, scrolling to the bottom, and rapidly popping something up and closing it (over and over again). If I exit out then tap the screen, it behaves for a few moments before this happens again.

All of the buttons are mapped to the keyboard, none of the phone buttons work, but based on what I'm reading that's normal. (Is there a reason for this? I'd be more than happy to write a key binding app if it's just a matter of someone sitting down and building a config file)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Leukay:
wooooowwww!!! yes! i was skeptical at first, but very eager to try, and i was surprised to find how fast it is now. this is close to completely functionally! i had read in earlier posts about it being slow, and it has very much improved. i have it running beautifully on my htc touch on alltel. thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
the reason yours is so flaky is that dzo wrote it for the Vogue, not Titan. That it even somewhat works on Titan is amazing.

What limitations are there from booting from WinMo? Its not running within WinMo at all. Its pretty much a real boot.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] uninc4709:
i am sure this has been talked about before, but how do i get my contacts over to android. i would love nothing more than to be able to use android on my xv6900, all i can really do now is just cruise teh settings which arent even useable! thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] neilson:
So then who wants to take it upon themselves to make it work with the Titan? Who here dares to be the dcd or No2Chem of Android development for the Titan?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
Hi Martin, android working really good. One question I have, is do you anticipate audio working on the 1.6 radio? I have hit a roadblock, since my xv6900 hasnt been updated for 6.1.

Anything that makes a sound freezes the phone. For example, phone dialer, music, youtube, etc.

Rom updates dont appear available for my phone, and people who are using custom Kitchens seem to be experiencing many issues.

Any thoughts?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
My latest kernel checks for the new radio and disables audio if it doesn't find it so it shouldn't crash, obviously you won't have audio though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
updated my zimage. sadly it still freezes when a sound should be made
[Touch CDMA Android Development] BrumBrum74:
Trying to get this to work on a HTC Touch (Elf) with norwegian rom. Run haret.exe from root of memory card and it looks lik Android boot. But then screen turns white and nothing more seems to load. Anybody have any good hints what I could be doing wrong?

Guess there's not a working version for the Elf yet?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] uninc4709:
im not 100 percent sure but im fairly positive that the elf doesnt have the same hardware setup as the vogue. dont think its enough to run android ha one positive of the cdma network i guess (you guys get sim cards)