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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There are already enough complains about the number of options ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Nice try, but there just can't be an option for every little thing.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I owe you so much for FairEmail that I could never blame you for anything about it. It's a great app! Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] Moon_stay:
Can provider "protonmail" be add ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, because Protonmail uses a proprietary email protocol, see also this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq129

I recognize that Protonmail is a secure and reliable email provider, but I will never use Protonmail because migrating your messages elsewhere when the need arises will be difficult. So, basically you are locked-in.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Not for paying customers, they can import and export their emails with other clients like Outlook and Thunderbird. For this, you need the Protonmail Bridge, which is not (yet) available for Android.

I expect that in the future, with the Bridge for Android, Proronmail will become compatible with FairEmail too.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I didn't know that this was available to paying customers.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
:svetius: Ref. https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/export-import-emails/
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This looks like a new feature, given that it is "beta". Hopefully, it actually works if you need it. Moving a lot of messages from one to another provider is often problematic. For example Gmail will rate limit, which means it will take ages to import messages.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
AFAIK, the import/export module is in beta (and has been for over a year), but I've never used it.

The Bridge works seamlessly with Outlook on my Windows machine and with Thunderbird on my Linux setup, so there I can use the import/export features of the clients. Those work without any restrictions.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1100 Balaur

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

There is one behavioral change to be aware of: spam messages will be permanently deleted instead of trashed now.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
As I update happily very often. This time I am biased.

Spam in spam can be used for training data or to double check. When it is deleted, it is pretty final.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Generally, spam should be left in the spam folder to train the spam filter of the email server.

It is just that moving a spam message to the trash folder is not very useful.

Moreover, this will train the spam filter to not consider the message as spam!
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
Why not move it into spamfolter uf available?

As this spam was obviously not detected, so spamtraining gets improved.

No spamfolder, so delete it.

I am in consent, that it does not belong into trash.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The change is about messages in the spam folder only. Formerly, when deleting a spam message from the spam folder it was moved to the trash folder, now the message will be permanently deleted.
[Android Apps and Games] francwalter:
Yes, but "User folders only" - which I have only a few, so this doesn't help much (maybe you can fix this once).

Anyway, nevertheless I tapped all those folders and set the Sync and Keep to 0/0 and disabled the Auto download for all these folders.

But after a while the total size of FairEmail was already 120 MB, getting slowly bigger. Seems to download bodies of emails, without I opened them.

k9mail has with the same accounts only 40 MB. Apart of that, the RAM use of FairEmail is 225 MB (and k9 only around 50mb). RAM is not an issue on my tablet, but just to compare with k9.

I uninstalled FairEmail again on the tablet.

On my Xiaomi Mi A1 its great, I love the many settings, much more than k9.

By the way, is there a way to configure the buttons in the view of a mail (see attachment), I would love to have a Spam-Button here. I have (in the middle): 3 dots, flag, trash, archive, folder. Here I would love to have spam (maybe instead of archive).

Or at the bottom I have Trash, Time, Archive. Could be Spam here instead of Time.

Possible?

Thanks

EDIT: by the way, thanks (too) for that genious setting to show the address in the FROM field, easy spam detected :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You shouldn't set sync and keep to zero. So, set it to 1 day instead and make sure download is disabled. After that, long press the folder to clear local messages and run the cleanup in the miscellaneous settings.

The flag is for reporting spam ...

Edit: about the RAM usage (not storage usage): set FairEmail to periodically check for messages instead of always sync in the receive settings.

Please be aware that FairEmail has a lot more functions and will therefore use more memory. That said, FairEmail is designed for minimal memory and storage space usage.

Edit #2: I am storing about 10,000 messages, occupying less than 128 MB, which is less than 2% of the available storage space (Pixel 3a XL, 64 GB). The so called memory class is mostly 192 MB, which means that apps cannot use more working memory than this at any time. IMHO that is pretty strict and given the specifications of recent devices arguably too strict. This means for example that a message of 200 MB cannot be handled by FairEmail.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

On latest version.

Insert a picture in body, place cursor below the picture and start typing--the cursor and text jumps to above the picture.

Last I used it this way maybe a month ago, it was fine

Please look into it
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Unfortunately, I can't reproduce this.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Mailed you that pic

With another pic, it's fine so something wrong with the pic properties maybe?
[Android Apps and Games] francwalter:
Is it possible to exclude an account from the unified inbox?

I want to add an account which I rarely need to check and I don't need that account's emails in my unified inbox.

How can I handle this?

thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
"Add a folder to the unified inbox: long press the folder in the folder list and check Show in unified inbox" (or the reverse).

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-howto
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I can reproduce the problem, but I can't fix it, although I have tried many things.

It works if you tap low enough below the image, so it seems to be an Android editor problem.
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
Hi,

Would it be possible to add a "move to..." (and maybe a "copy to...") option in the 3-dot pop-up menu, when we long-press one or several messages in the message list view.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is already. You might need to scroll the popup menu.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1101 1.1102 1.1103 Balaur

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
Stupid of me, not trying to scroll!

I knew it didn't make sense that this feature would be missing :)
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Corresponding small arrows at the top and bottom would prevent such a thing - as said before. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, but Android does not support that ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Sorry, but I can't prevent myself from thinking Trump is trying to use FairEmail:

1 star rating of course :(
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
Unfortunately, you can't stop stupid people from voting. That would be 'undemocratic'.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will report this review to Google, maybe they will remove it, unless they believe captain Trump of course.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
One of the reasons I enjoy my time on xda is because it isn't about politics. C'mon folks, let's please not do any to political sniping.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1104 Balaur

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Just when you think FairEmail can't get any better, it gets better.

Amazing!

Thank you Marcel.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Which change do you exactly like and must stay?
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
It's just incremental improvements adding this or that, even things I did not realize could be added. My comment was prompted by the latest addition of the 'non-obtrusive trash/archive icon/buttons after message text'. But that was just the excuse. The last straw if you wish in the constantly improving app.

I long ago decided FairEmail was the best email app I had ever used. I would have been very satisfied if it never changed beyond that. So its constantly getting better and better is what's extraordinary. So is the rapidity with which questions get answered and problems get solved. You're doing an extraordinary job.

Thank you.

If I had any complaints it would be that

—it is not always clear (to me) what the new improvement actually is or how to use it from the brief phrase about it in the github new version mention

—where to find a setting about something newly added (even though the settings have become more familiar with time).

But these are not really complaints. Just comments.
[Android Apps and Games] francwalter:
I am still a bit in experimental phase, I have a "work flow" issue:

when I share one or more pictures to FairEmail the pictures are not resized.

I cannot resize them from here, they are only resized (exactly: I only get the resize dialog), when I choose them from FairEmail, not if they are shared from any gallery app or from else where shared.

Is it possible to do a kind of opt out, so they are only NOT resized if I explicitly say so?

This was a huge disadvantage of the main k9mail branch, that was not possible and I used for a long time a fork where this was possible, inApp, even without dialog.

Thanks, frank
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
Also there exists an app for that.

If Fairmail already does some image processing, how about an option to remove exif data?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
To resize images, you'll need to select them from FairEmail.

When sharing/sending images to FairEmail, the sender of the images is responsible for the images and the image size.

You could use something like this:

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/mobi.omegacentauri.SendReduced/
[Android Apps and Games] francwalter:
Yes, I know and used SendReduced. But it is just not as smooth to handle as when it were included in the App (FairEmail).

So no way this will be included once in FairEmail (as ist is in this fork, I mentioned)?

EDIT: I just tested the old Send Reduced (Pro) again, but it doesn't work anymore. No wonder, develop stopped 2017, so maybe not working on Android 9
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will put this on my to do list, but I might consider this as a bridge too far.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I could add a setting to resize shared images, but that would be yet another setting and yet another complication in the code, while there are other solutions for this. You can't have everything.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1105 Balaur

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This is a release candidate for the next Play store version.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] francwalter:
Send Reduced is not working anymore on my phone. Last development is from 2017 :(

Error: "an old app sends file name instead of stream" (de: "Eine veraltete App verschickte den Dateinamen anstelle des Datenstroms" Info)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Than you will have to save the images, which you can do from FairEmail, and attach them again resized.

Edit: I will put this on my to do list, which is not a promise if and when this will be added.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Wasn't there even a general setting for the size of the images in the past, which now only appears in the 'Add Graphics' dialog? If this setting were general again, it might be effective when sharing an image from another application, right?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The fixed settings were replaced by the image dialog, so image resizing can be selected case by case.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1106 1.1107 Balaur

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds an option to remove locations from images, which was a nice suggestion of [MENTION=265865]crypta[/MENTION] to further increase your privacy.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Problem report, version 1106, recent behavior:

All incoming emails are now marked with

"No server found at "the domain name sent from".

Yet all these domains are valid domains and replies to these emails get there with no problem.

This may be solved in version 1.1107 because the one reply copy I received since installing the 1.1107 update was not marked that way. Will watch for behavior in further emails.

EDIT

Problem may be on my side. My wifi connection shows 'connected but no internet'. I will try to resolve.

EDIT 2

I rebooted my router and now the wifi has internet access. Sorry for the false alarm.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1108 Balaur

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version restores swiping spam, with as change that swiping spam to trash will be changed into permanently deleting spam.

This version also fixes the problem reported by [MENTION=6910712]maybeme2[/MENTION]

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] kos25k:
Hello.i bought premium subscription to have option for searching on my mails.But i noticed that Search isn't able to find very old emails.Also when i press an email (and whole conversation appears) it also isn't able to appear older emails from this conversation.Any idea how to fix this?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Are you searching on the device or on the email server? If you tap on the little 'i'-icon in the search dialog, you will be redirected to the FAQ which explains the difference.

If you are searching on the device: FairEmail does not download all messages to save on battery, storage and data usage. You can long press a folder in the folder list and select 'Download more' to fetch more messages.
[Android Apps and Games] kos25k:
Thanks,but can't find this option..
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The crash you sent a logcat for by email will be fixed in the next release.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I guess you have to set 'Outlook/personal' and 'Outlook/work' as account name manually as the app cannot guess what is what. Using the email address as default for the account name lead to longer texts and is not as nice as using the provider name. I am afraid I cannot make everybody happy.
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
Feedback of v0.5:

• there should be a real visual difference between read and unread emails

• free.fr works now :good:

• After adding a new account, my Unified inbox is empty.

• I'm convinced that separating accounts which receive vs send emails is not a good idea. I think it would be better to work as Thunderbird: the user enters his email and password then the app tries to find imap and smtp information. All accounts can receive and send emails.

• Writing a new email: the font of the body of the text is not the same.

• I didn't manage to send an email with my free.fr account:

Notification received:

EDIT: it works now...

• The folders screen should be displayed by account (folders could be hidden) then we drill down the folders. I could add 7 accounts into Safe email so it could be a mess :)

• The folder icon from the Unified inbox should be changed to an Inbox icon when we are on the Folders screen. Pressing this new icon redirects the user to the Unified inbox.

• A unified inbox is very useful but we sometimes need to check or search into only one account. So it would be appreciated to be able to select specific accounts from the navigation drawer or a drop down menu in the Action bar at the top.

• Cancel actions: a toast message or action bar to cancel the last action (draft saved for example).

• Auto-fill feature when writing the email of the recipient (based on the emails already sent I guess. I don't how other email clients manage this).

• Long press and/or swipe an email from the Inbox screen to delete, move, mark as spam, mark as read/unread...

• When I receive a new email, the notification tells me that I have X new emails. However I deliberately keep some emails as unread (like a to-do list). Could it be possible to only have a notification of the new email? (sender, object and beginning of the body of the text)

• A sort option to select the order of emails: date, recipient/sender, object, size...

• Links to access to the changelog, FAQ,...

• Do not disturb options

• Option to toggle "Conversation mode".

• Unable to move an email with a free.fr account. Notification received: 'FREE/INBOX' failed. MOVE not supported MOVE not supported.

• free.fr account: I don't know what the Trash icon does because the email disappears from the inbox in Safe email app but not in my other email app / webmail client of my provider. The Trash folder is synchronized (30 days) though.

• More colors :D such as an option to show avatars to make the app more attractive.
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Hi Marcel,

Never used k9mail for a long time, but Aquamail instead.

Your new app is already very insteresting, will test it.

Maybe you could add 2 new (working) providers :

1) infomaniak

IMAP

mail.infomaniak.com

Port 993

SMTP

mail.infomaniak.com

Port 587 with STARTTLS

2) ovh

IMAP

ssl0.ovh.net

Port 993

SMTP

ssl0.ovh.net

Port 465 without STARTTLS

I second most of the proposals of Primokorn at the moment.

---------- Post added at 03:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:22 PM ----------

I'm testing with two providers :

- one has a trash folder named by default "trash": no problem to trash a message

- the other one is naming the trash folder "INBOX.Corbeille" and i can't trash any message, no button for it

---------- Post added at 03:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:13 PM ----------

None of my sent messages seem to be saved in the sent folder. New message or reply, same behavior.

Thanks

---------- Post added at 03:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:27 PM ----------

Just a last one.

I installed the app on 2 phones.

On the first i made tests : sending, replying, deleting... and made reports above.

The other mobile was deep sleeping and fired no notification (Doze mode ?). When a got it in hand, i got the notifications, and saw the new messages, even the ones i deleted on the other phone.

I'll wait a while to see if the deleted mails still appear in the inbox...
[Android Apps and Games] KickerTom:
First, thanks for all your amazing work, as a happy user of some your previous work, I am really looking forward to yet another great app.

I just very shortly tested the latest alpha (0.5) and here are a few initial remarks:

Registering a new custom account, the form suggests port 993. I left it unfilled, thinking the default is OK. Got error connecting on port 0. Had to type the number 993 in to get connection.

2 of my 3 primary accounts report IDLE not supported. I can try convincing admin of one to upgrade and add support, other one is out of question. I understand IMAP without IDLE is bad, but sometimes you don't have choice :(. So if it is not too complicated, I would like you to consider adding support for servers without IDLE (with big fat warning or whatever you want).

Having the username/password separated for account/identity may be sometimes nice, but complicates setup with providers with application passwords (e.g. gmail with 3-factor auth) - if you close the page after entering the pass for account, you need to generate another one for identity. What about e.g. having the possibility to pick account in identity from all entered (in both account and identitiy) before? Or some other way to copy data already entered in the other form?

Messages list - pulling the list down when on top to refresh, pulling up when on bottom to load more messages?

As already suggested - long press on mail to offer operations (delete, file...)

When composing and email, when I start writing the name, it could suggest contacts matching what is typed.

Hope these comments are helpful a bit.

Will test more, as time permits. Thanks again.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks for your comments guys! (no offence meant if you are not a "guy")
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Is infomaniak a commonly used email provider? OVH will be part of the next release.

What is the folder type of "INBOX.Corbeille"? (you can see this in the folder list)

Your provider should take care of adding outgoing messages to the sent folder, but I will see if I can workaround this limitation (with the invisible work done today this should not be to difficult anymore).

Android doze should not bother with foreground services. Which Android version are you using?
[Android Apps and Games] KickerTom:
My use case is usually when I search for some older mail I had in some folder (one-off action). So updating the synchronization period does not sound right to me.
[Android Apps and Games] vagkoun83:
Kudos for that project, I hope the best, k9 is very good app but except k9 it was time for a new open source mail app. Its so lightweight and fast so many of us keep an eye at this app

Sent from my ONEPLUS 5T
[Android Apps and Games] :
Anybody else having issues trying to upgrade to 0.5?

I get an error that the app failed to install for some unknown reason.

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling both from GitHub and the IzzyonDroid Repository. Rebooting phone each time and ensuring I'm not trying to upgrade Izzy from github and vice versa.

Android 7.1.1, Moto G4 Play
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Infomaniak is the swiss number one i think. Thanks for OVH.

INBOX.Corbeille type is "user". And i can't change the type or rename it as "trash", it's an OVH limitation.

Android 7.0

Thanks !
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

alpha

version 0.6

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This is mostly a bug fix release, but still not ready for production use!

Please let me know about any issue you find.
[Android Apps and Games] spawnlives:
As mentioned by [MENTION=4200740]tbv2005[/MENTION] having the issue of play protect message showing up when installing. Has happened since ver 0.4
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
Great, gmail is now syncing without errors ver.6, thank you.

Observations:

very slow to open an email. Spinning disc blank screen for 20 secs or more eachtime.

same issue sometimes on return to unified inbox

same issue opening accounts section

would like option to view message header

offline mode?

thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What does the message exactly say?
[Android Apps and Games] spawnlives:
Hopefully this screenshot goes through

Play store version no. 11.1.15 -all (0) (pr) 206859054
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have released the latest alpha version as closed alpha test into the Play store to hopefully solve this problem. The Play store release is not publicly available. This will change with the first beta release.
[Android Apps and Games] jawz101:
I like the pun.

How about Chain Mail

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_(armour)

It's safe, secure, ... and you can take your pick of branding- knights, armor, castles, coat of arms, and other medieval stuff.

And as you develop, if you have any components or features you're stuck on naming, you've got a bunch of words to call things (a spam engine called Dungeon or whatever.)
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
Or bondage mail... lots of permutations there !