yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Apps and Games] glops:
IDLE is well supported by this email

because when I make a fake code I have a message "Invalid login or password"

Thanks again for your work
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Would account colors in the unified inbox help?
[Android Apps and Games] dirtyreturn:
Right now I'm just stupid and don't want to bother searching. Could you please direct me to the location of the English text for your app?

I will gladly take a look for you as well.

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I don't feel I'm being prickish or anything, but, keep in mind, it IS also about you!

I guess this is way OT, like, you gotta stick with your fan base, you know?

Anyway, I just wanted to chime in and make a more personal comment to you. I've been using your stuff since you started XPrivacy and just want to see you treated with respect, and continue to enjoy making awesome apps!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
See here for the in-app texts:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/app/src/main/res/values/strings.xml

Here for the general description:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/README.md

And here for the FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md
[Android Apps and Games] dirtyreturn:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] , do you have a due date to have the links looked over by?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I guess I have to say thanks :)

For me it is mostly a challenge to get it technically right and to find a balance between everybody's wishes without complicating things too much.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Everything is voluntary, so there is no due date.

A look on the in-app text would be my priority.
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
That worked, thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] norair1997:
I like your app, but i think the design needs an update :D just a oppinion of a guy
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
Ugh. So I uninstalled GitHub version and installed from play store, but it's not syncing anything, not even showing my folders. GitHub version also hadn't synced for several hours. Was trying version 0.47.

Just sent logs, lots of errors in them

Edit: I installed the GitHub version on top of the play store one and it's seeing all my folders and emails.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
So, what should be improved?

Edit: I am a much better developer than designer, so suggestions are welcome. Just let me hear what's on your mind and I will see what I can do.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The Play store and GitHub version are exactly the same.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Given the remark about the design above: is the design too simple / minimalistic?
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
For me, it's perfect.

Maybe colors could help to differentiate accounts, but not a big deal for me.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
+1 for keep it base

err on the side of kindness
[Android Apps and Games] icecoldsipra:
I too initially had sync issues when I first setup my gmail account. But all I did was simply restarted my phone and everything worked fine post that. I have installed only the Play Store version.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Account colors is on the list again to add.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't see how this can happen. Maybe an upgrade of JavaMail will fix this.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Maybe you can put a small colored bar under the sender's pic, where now the attachment icon is located. That paperclip icon can then move to the right and replace the account name.

If you make the subject line a bit bigger (maybe 1 point only), then you'll have space to put the first letters of the account name, like the first 3, inside the colored bar.

That way you'll also solve the small quirk that some of the mail headers/titles start at the far left, and others are indented.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The plan was to make the background color of the list items in the unified inbox to the set color.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I was afraid of that already. I think it will make things a bit messy. I liked the minimalist black/white approach of the current design, and using background colors might make it look cheap.
[Android Apps and Games] sethnet:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

I know it can go against the simplicity of FairEmail and I also know it's not a priority but dreaming about possible "what if?", since we have enough functions available to configure when swiping, would it be possible in the future for each swipe (left and right) to allow you two actions depending on whether it's up to half screen or full screen? A multi option swipe.

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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
First of all, this is not an Android standard feature, which already says something, and besides that, swipes are already easily accidentally done and having four swipe actions will only make this worse. So, IMHO this is not a good idea.
[Android Apps and Games] sethnet:
As I had become accustomed in other mail clients I had to try/ask [emoji28], but yes, it will not be the first time I see a user who swipes more or less by mistake.

Thanks!

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[Android Apps and Games] Justinbridou:
Hi there !

I have an issue to share (and/or maybe a feature proposal ?).

I have a large IMAP email account (currently with an archive folder per year 2007 to 2018,several thousands of emails in total).

I have sync'ed the folders for offline availability and expecting fast search.

But searching for some email from a contact xxx that wrote me only in 2014 ( ~20 emails), takes around 40sec.

I assume it's offline search (I tried with airplane mode).

I can fully understand imap search online is slow....but 40sec seems not fast for offline search....(the phone is a OP 6T, not the last flagship, but I hope still a fast one)

So I figure out the following:

- Maybe nothing can be done, and I have to be more patient when searching :)

- Maybe I missed some tuning somewhere in the app ?

- Maybe a lightning fast search algorythm might be a great new feature ?

Best regards!

PS: For all other stuff, I'm greatly happy with the app !
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In fact many feature requests are based on features available in other apps. I deliberately do not look at other apps to avoid copying "so-so" features. Instead I am trying to understand what people actually want and try to find a solution for that.

So, what do you really want?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Unfortunately, it will be "Maybe nothing can be done, and I have to be more patient when searching" because of two limitations:

sqlite, the database engine of Android has a record size limit, preventing message texts from being stored in the database

Android apps get only limited memory to work with, even if the device has plenty memory

This means that searching for a message text means that messages files need to be opened one by one to check if the searched text is contained in the file, which is a relative expensive process.
[Android Apps and Games] sethnet:
I have to admit that I am very happy with the application and I haven't used the previous mail client in a while (Nine in my case and I will end up uninstalling it).

The option of encrypting emails with OpenKeychain was what made me try Fair Email and I ended up buying the Pro version.

And all I can think of right now are non-priority functions.

Thank you very much for the work.

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[Android Apps and Games] alphabeet:
501 syntactially invalid HELO argument(s)

I installed FairEmail yesterday and I like it very much. The simplicity is awesome.

But I got one problem. One in three mail accounts can not send any mails. I get error "501 syntactially invalid HELO argument(s)" and fixing it by myself did not work out.

Research on google confused me even more. Do you have any fix for that problem?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Next time look into the FAQ ;)

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq127
[Android Apps and Games] Sid32:
Not mine -

https://www.reddit.com/r/androidapps/comments/dm1vy7/experimental_redesign_of_fairemail_is_now_open/
[Android Apps and Games] Justinbridou:
Well, I can understand it may be hard to achieve.

But as reference (I am trying several emails apps currently), librem email (k9 fork) does same search in half a second. No clue how they did the trick.

I don't mean any kind of blaming, I just wanted to share the experience,as it's open source too..

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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Actually, I have mostly been ignoring the published design because it was not open source. I couldn't allow any precedent to be created by getting involved. However, the author of the design contacted me today after having made the design open source and it seems we will have a constructive discussion about possible design improvements. For me each and every change needs to be supported by good arguments, which I will document in this thread. See here for the goals of the design:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-frequently-requested-features
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Apps have different technical architectures, which has advantages and disadvantages. I am pretty sure Librem Mail will have other disadvantages.

Searching on the device is pretty straightforward and I have already looked into it and improved what could be improved:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/b...code/email/BoundaryCallbackMessages.java#L160

A limitation of the architecture is that the a boundary callback is used to search, which means that the messages needs to be searched in order.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=8974565]Justinbridou[/MENTION] I was able to improve the search performance. Since you have stored a lot of messages could you please contact me via this form for a test version?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=8974565]Justinbridou[/MENTION] I was able to improve the search performance.

Since you have stored a lot of messages could you please contact me via this form for a test version?
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
I agree - a fortiori ... feature complete and awesome!

thanks you Marcel.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This seems to be the first clone of FairEmail in the Play store:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.servicomtech.email

Maybe you want to leave a nice rating or maybe even better report the app as violating the open source license and copyright of FairEmail and the Thunderbird brand.

People are contacting me for support ...
[Android Apps and Games] caprihome:
Done!
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Done Marcel. First time I reported, and thought there would be a place to explain.. No.. Just menu driven

Edit

Left this a review as I am not familiar with copyright stuff. If it needs correction, please let me know

"This is a rip-off of FairEmail, violating the open source license and copyright of FairEmail and the Thunderbird brand."

LOL.. They even offer pro version and when you click on that, it is a dead link:laugh:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please report here too for misusing the Thunderbird name:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/fraud-report/
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
They have put ads into the app to earn money. Hopefully that is all ...
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
He didnt change the contact Info,in the app.

https://github.com/M66B/Thunderbird/blob/master/FAQ.md

*Amateur*

Send a report to Google
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Done

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Oh, ad blocker prevented showing

Edit : Is it in order or a good idea to some how mention in the PS description and in the app that this is the original stuff and fakes may be around [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Done.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The most important is to warn people that the app is a clone, but mentioning FairEmail as original doesn't hurt of course ;)
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
I meant saying in your app description that there are clones floating around....
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
Uploaded to the Play Store 27 September.

Crazy 5000+ downloads?! How?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure that is a good idea and it won't help to prevent ignorant people from installing a clone either.

It is like BMW saying that there are BMW clones.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Very strange indeed
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
By using the name "Thunderbird", which is a violation of a Mozilla trademark:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/list/

Edit: which you can report here:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/fraud-report/

I am pretty sure Mozilla isn't going to allow this.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Suggest you request all to report above in addition to Play Store.

Let the big fish fight (Mozilla VS Google)
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I assume you reported this through Google's Legal pages https://support.google.com/legal/troubleshooter/1114905, [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]?
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Done!
[Android Apps and Games] sethnet:
Done. Reviewed (with FairEmail mention) and reported.

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[Android Apps and Games] sethnet:
I have replied to the review...

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[Android Apps and Games] Rik44444:
other payment options for pro features

great project, I'm a fan! love the customizability, and the fast linking to servers. no loading times! and that it's open source.

request: is there any way to pay for pro features outside of the Play Store? I use/e/ OS, a new privacy focused fully open source OS that is completely unGoogled. It has its own app store.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
done

[quote name="caprihome" post=80644479]Done![/QUOTE]<br />

<br />

<br />

[quote name="beeshyams" post=80644575]Done Marcel. First time I reported, and thought there would be a place to explain.. No.. Just menu driven[/QUOTE]<br />

<br />

Please report here too for misusing the Thunderbird name:<br />

<br />

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/fraud-report/

and done.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

This was the reply to my review

"you need to learn about licence opence source any one can use it , you can see the description of the app copyright for fairmail opensource project

thank you"

I don't understand this open source - what it means actually and if he is right or wrong. Even if he is partially right, I won't revise my review. Leaving aside the Mozilla aspect, can you please educate?

(I vaguely recall some one else doing something similar in early stages of development)
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
He replied quite the same to me, so i pushed my bad remarks a level up.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have done this a few times for NetGuard, but either Google completed ignored it or was going to ask for proof and after the proof was conclusively supplied they still decided to do nothing. Can you believe this?

Note that they simply don't have the right to decide and that if they do that they violate international agreements.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, there is. If you install the GitHub version of FairEmail, you can get the pro features without Google stuff via the pro features screen.

Please see here for the download options:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/README.md#user-content-downloads
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Open source means that the source code to build the software, in this case an Android app, is published publicly. This is mostly done under a license that says what you can and can't do with the source code.

FairEmail is open sourced on GitHub under the GPLv3 license. Basically the GPLv3 license says that anybody can use the source code in their own software provided that this software is completely open sourced too.

Besides the software license there is a copyright. The author of the software is the copyright holder (unless the copyright was transferred) and hold all rights over the software. If the software is copied and modified the copyrights remain. This is important because the copyright holder can add another license or change the existing license. Theoretically, I could revoke the open source license (don't worry, this will not happen).
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks for your time in explaining patiently.

I am actually very surprised - this means if I could, I can take your months of man efforts and add or delete a thing or two, put some fancy animation and publish it as open source (acknowledge you as the copyright holder in small print). Phew... I can see the plus but the negatives overwhelm.

Hats off to you keep this open source despite such things. Salute
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, that would be possible and that is also the nature of open source software. However, how are you going to support your clone? IMO software is worthless without proper maintenance and support.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.789

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The main change is that the search performance was improved. Please let me know if searching still works properly and if it got any faster for you.

Although there are less and less problems, please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I like some help because I am more a developer than a marketeer.

Please take a look at the app description of FairEmail and of Thunderbird for Android:

Copied here because I suspect the app will be removed from the Play store.

I like to hear about the strong and weak points of both descriptions and I like to hear what could be improved to FairEmail's description.

I have already added "FairEmail is easy to setup and works with virtually all email providers, including Gmail, Outlook and Yahoo!".
[Android Apps and Games] Ines*:
They claim that this is the source code, published 10 hours ago:

https://github.com/servicomtech/thunderbirdemailapp
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That seems to be correct.

Google Analytics and Google ads were added as already anticipated and also a quick setup start screen with a big Thunderbird logo.

Publishing the source code doesn't solve the Thunderbird trademark violation though. Edit: which you can report here:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/fraud-report/

More reports will likely result in a more swift action because Mozilla will probably want to limit the damage done to their name. To keep a trademark you are also required to actively protect.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
I like your emphasis on FE being privacy friendly—its truly unique feature needs to be forefront in the description.

Your list of Pro Features should be last. It currently reads as if all the Simple, Secure, Efficient features are only Pro features.

My suggested order of 'Main Features', based on what I think a prospective user would trigger on.

* Fully featured

* 100 % open source

* Privacy friendly

* Encryption/decryption (OpenPGP)

* Multiple accounts

* Multiple email addresses

* Battery friendly

* Low data usage

* Small (< 10 MB)

* Unified inbox

* Flat conversation threading

* Two way synchronization

* Offline storage and operations

* Material design (including dark theme)

* Maintained and supported

OTHER APP

LIKE

listing the email providers first

— KeyWords (justified, or not)

* Manage all your accounts at once

* fast

* lightweight

* adapted for mobile

* automatic configuration
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] And highlighting encryption. That seems to be a thing whether used or not
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks.

I have moved the pro features section down, moved encryption to the privacy features and added "Fast and lightweight" to the "Efficient" section:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/#user-content-fairemail

"Manage all your accounts at once" is already worded as "Multiple accounts", "Adapted for mobile" seems superfluous to me and "automatic configuration" is already worded as "easy to setup". Listing providers seems not a good idea. If you think I am wrong with these, please let me know.

Are there anymore suggestions to improve the description?

Edit: in my experience people read superficial, which is why I have chosen for lists with short entries.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
I can't phrase it properly but the customization features are a big plus and far beyond most or all mail apps - things like copy, edit as new, rules and priority etc. This should be a big sell point, an USP
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I think it is not a good idea to have long lists with features, which is why I think "Fully featured" is better.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.790

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version fixes a crash on showing images.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Unlimited accounts?
[Android Apps and Games] sethnet:
Searching works properly

I don't have a lot of emails but I do get the feeling that the search results show up faster.

Thanks!

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[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
And perhaps 'Privacy oriented' instead of '... friendly', plus I'd remove the word 'Flat' before 'Conversation threading'.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks, this is a good suggestion, so changed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks, this is a good suggestion, so changed.

"Flat" refers to one level. This is of importance because hierarchical threading is not really suitable for mobile devices.
[Android Apps and Games] wirdSchoon:
have a look at FE Version...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Fixed, thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The one who posts the 10,000th comment needs to donate (extra) !
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Upto rating of 4.9 in play store. Higher than any other. You are a rock star, Mr.Marcel ! Congrats!
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Snooze till 10K crossed says me
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Or leave the 10,000th comment to me ;)
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
'One level conversation threading' then. 'Flat' sounds a bit negative.

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... to xda :D
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If flat sounds negative, it can better be removed, so done ;)
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
Any news bout the clone? Cant believe its still on air.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Only the "developer" and Google can remove the clone and "autistic" Google is not really known for swift actions ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The one who posts the 10,000th comment needed to donate, so I have just "donated" myself a Yubikey 5 NFC to make it work with OpenKeychain and FairEmail ;)
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
A Samsung Watch is the next goal? ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Given that FairEmail is known to work properly with a Pebble 2, a Fitbit Charge 3 and a Mi band 3, given the price of a Samsung watch and given that I am trying to live as timelessly as possible, no, sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
it was not meant seriously
[Android Apps and Games] cobben:
I think the main value added public attractor marketing thingy is the 'borrowed' name "Thunderbird".

You don't want to go that route I assume, but perhaps you could 'legally' include some references to several well-known email apps in the (searchable? taggable?) description?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't want to go that route. FairEmail should have its own value.
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
In french the app description begins by "une application de messagerie gratuite, facile à configurer et à configurer". So, nice to configure and configure...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
For me it is like this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email&hl=fr

This is pretty close to the English original: