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[Android Apps and Games] sbellon:
Thanks for the quick response, but I doubt FAQ 126 is it, because I'm not even seeing the email accounts themselves - the menu items in the Audi MMI are just not there.

So, if there is no obvious "Mail Bluetooth Protocol API" (or whatever - name invented by me) that you have not implemented, then most likely it looks like Audi indeed hard-coded interfaces to "well-known" mail clients? In that case I'll have to install the old app in addition to regain access to my mails in the car (of course not while driving, but e.g. in a traffic jam). I'll try that in order to find out whether it's really the app or whether the new 5 II (as opposed to the XZ2 Compact) handles something differently.

Edit: Yes, it is definitely more than just notifications! You can see whole email bodies (including text attachments), you can reply to mails, forward them, etc. in the Audi MMI.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is no public "Mail Bluetooth Protocol API" (or whatever - name invented by you) ;), so this seems to be some proprietary protocol.
[Android Apps and Games] sbellon:
I think, I found it: MAP (Message Access Protocol) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bluetooth_profiles#Message_Access_Profile_(MAP)

But it looks like it's not FairMails responsibility to implement something regarding this. I'll have to search through the Audi MMI menus, perhaps I gave some permission years ago that I have forgotten about.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Maybe it is because other apps cannot access FairEmail's data. However, there are no Android high-level APIs for this, so low level Bluetooth APIs needs to be used for this. If you provide me with a suitable car, I will look into it ... ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=4477778]sbellon[/MENTION] Maybe this will be the solution:

https://developer.android.com/training/cars/messaging#messaging

However, this will be some work and since I am having a vacation (see earlier discussions), I am not going to look into this right away.
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
Hello [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

Is there a way to move rules from one account to another?

It turns out that I'm currently switching my Yahoo account from the old setting way to the new oath method.

So I have now this account install twice in Fair email, with the installed the old way not synchronizing anymore.

Before deleting the "old" account I want to transfer the many rules that I have applied to the inbox.

Can I do this easily?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Moving rules cross account is not supported, sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
Thank you for replying so quickly. Don't be sorry. I will survive these tedious rule-creation tasks. ;)

I had a hope it would be possible, because long-pressing on a rule generates a menu with Move to... and Copy...

I don't understand what these 2 do, then.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Move and copy are there to move/copy rules within an account.
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
Am I the only one missing the cute arrow between sender and recipient in the header?

I've noticed it yesterday and was searching a bit in the commits but couldn't find any message about that change. Is there a reason that you've removed that little nice looking detail Marcel?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The cute arrow was removed because not all devices / Android versions were able to show it. So, it didn't always look that cute ...
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
I see. Thanks for the swift reply!

Would it perhaps be possible to use the same arrow as the navigation arrow below? Or make it at least '->' ...

Now I'm seeing "sender name <sender@address.com> >> recipient name <recipient sender>" which is a bit blurry for my old eyes ;)

No hurry though! Please only if it's not too much work, you have time and are preparing a new release anyway ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is not about the work, but more about the ideas.

IMHO -> is even uglier. The dash and greater than symbol do not align for example.
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
I'm afraid I have to agree ?

That proposition was all about distinction though and not about beauty ...

And what about using the same arrow as in the statusline below for switching between emails?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure what "the statusline below" is.

In any case these characters are too small :(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillemet
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Do you mean that not all phones support the Unicode 2192 → character?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, that is what I mean, unfortunately and also surprisingly.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

App has been working wonderfully that have not needed to log into xda.

But, I just updated phone to Android 10 and every once in a while I see the notification:

I believe this was dealt with previously, so was confused as to why it returned.

Is this one of the issues plaguing newer android version?

:silly: I was on 7.1.1 for the longest of times.

I still synch Manually. And am quite sure this issue was fixed earlier. So not sure what is causing it as I have not changed set up only upgrafed OS
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please send me the debug info with a short problem description by long pressing 'Support' in the navigation menu.
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
I mean the small triangles below in the right & left corner.

But they might be not visible as well for some devices ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
These are icons and can't be used in texts.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Talking about icons, I have something strange:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That's ugly and I will fix it right away!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Vacation reminder, it is going to be a cold winter:

Edit: I guess it will be a long and cold winter:

Edit: calling developers stupid is not in violation of the Play store rules, right ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I guess it will be a long and cold winter:

Edit: calling developers stupid is not in violation of the Play store rules, right ...
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
It takes all kinds of Morons to make up this world! Some of them pass comments on the play store , unfortunately!
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
Brrrrrrrr [emoji300] [emoji301]
[Android Apps and Games] lordearl:
Just dropping in to say that after a lengthy search for a decent Android email client, I've been fortunate enough to have found FairEmail in the F-Droid App Repository. Initial impressions are that this is mind-blowing, great job to the developers & I'll post a few queries as I get used to the app. Brilliant stuff!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released EXPERIMENTAL version 1.1368 Ziapelta

Changelog/download (there won't be an update notification):

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The main change is that authentication (passwords, tokens) was revised, so this can be done on connection instead of account level. This will result in less (account) reconnects and therefore in less battery usage. This was tested thoroughly for password, Gmail tokens and OAuth tokens (Office365, Yahoo and Yandex), but since this is a rather crucial part of the app, this version is marked as EXPERIMENTAL.

I have made permanently deleting messages or conversations a bit easier: you can now long press the trash icons in the message or in the bottom navigation bar.

There is a new option to sort new message notifications on top and you might want to try the new 'messaging style' notification option for another notification layout, which is compatible with Android Auto (but can be used without a luxury or fast car too ;) ).

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
This is getting a little incredible now;) The work of the genius continues. Features that could not even be imagined let alone implemented!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Genius, likely no, hard working, probably yes.

Anyway, I like to hear if the experimental version works properly for you (in general) and which provider(s) you are using.
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
I assume it still asks for confirmation?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, it does.
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
Absolutely agree. There have been many examples of those.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Working fine so far. Gmail push, imap push, outlook and yahoo manual sync.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Did you set up Gmail / Yahoo with the quick setup wizard (OAuth) ?
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Yes to both

---------- Post added at 03:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:44 PM ----------

Love the quick delete feature!
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Working fine with gmail (imap setup with username/password), yahoo (OAuth) and self-hosted Synology mail server (imap).

Now I have only one wish left: a 'Not spam' button to create a rule for messages delivered in the spam folder that should not be there, to put further mail from that sender in the normal inbox, including showing a notification.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Creating rules to move messages out of the spam folder has shown to cause oscillations. So, this is not something I will support directly. However, you can just create a rule via the horizontal three-dots menu and there is a button option to show a make-a-rule button for quick access.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Why does one receive a notification for an update to version 1.1367, although version 1.1368 is already installed?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Because version 1.1368 is marked as preview version and therefore version 1.1367 is the latest version.

And yes, this isn't ideal, but since this is a bit of an exception, I won't put time into this.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
At least for gmail the Not spam rule seems to work without oscillation. Moving a message from the spam folder to the inbox even generates a notification.
[Android Apps and Games] avalx:
Installed this and so far no problems. (Just a note that I'm not a heavy email user)

My email providers beside Gmail are also (all enabled to sync):

- Zoho

- GMX Freemail

- Outlook

Great work as usual! ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1369 Ziapelta

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
To release the latest version in the Play store I need to agree to this:

https://play.google.com/about/auto/developer-distribution-agreement-addendum/

I am considering this as a problem:

Given that this feature will not be useful to many people, I don't want risking Google refusing the app in the Play store now or later on, which is an automatic process and appealing is frustrating and time consuming. Also, I don't want to be liable in any way for any usage in a car.

So, Android Auto support will be removed from the Play store version in the next release.

Edit: please see this FAQ about configuring Android Auto support:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq165
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
So far the experimental version works as propagated.

Provider: XS4ALL

Phone: mido with latest Derpfest 10
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
ikr?
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
I think you're right, it's not a mandatory feature.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have removed it from the Play store release, but it will still be available in the GitHub release.

So, if somebody needs/wants it, there is still a possibility.
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
Talking about releases, I recognized the f Droid repo gets increased updates and I wondering if I should jump from. Github version to fdroid, just for the ease of updates. So my question is :are these updates a one timer or the beginning?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't know when F-Droid builds, but please read this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq147
[Android Apps and Games] SaidJan:
How can Fairemail access contacts on server? ( My professors and classmates emails)

It's on outlook email.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail gets email address from the Android address book or from a local contacts database.

So, you'll need something like this to get out of your Outlook lock-in:

https://www.davx5.com/organizations/managed-davx5

This websites references this plugin:

https://caldavsynchronizer.org/

Related FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq138
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Some messages I receive have 'Notify on new message' set by the sender. How do I turn that off?
[Android Apps and Games] mi6hamburg:
Feature Request

Hi,

if you filter mails in any folder, the fact that you are in a filtered view is not displayed anywhere. Having forgotten that mails are filtered, you might not find what you're looking for.

A symbol or highlight that shows that your view is currently filtered would help greatly.

Regards, Till
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The question is how without being ugly and obtrusive.

Edit: there is an option to show quick filter icons, which you might want to enable.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure what this mean because the sender can't control if there will be a new message notification.
[Android Apps and Games] mi6hamburg:
Hi, thanks for replying so quickly.

I think a colored top bar might work. In fact, I disabled the buttons because I think they are obtrusive :laugh:

Btw, I love your tool and am a satisfied, paying customer.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I think a colored top bar would be rather obtrusive.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Sorry, I did not explain well.

Emails from 2 senders appear in the Unified Inbox with an orange stripe on their left. When they arrive the phone emits a notification sound. Other emails arrive without sound and without a color stripe.

I'm not sure how to turn off both the notification sound and the orange stripe on these senders. I do not recall setting anything special for these 2 senders one of which is a spammer.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The missing color is an indication that the message arrived in another folder, possibly of another account. So, please check in which folder of which account the messages arrive and if new message notifications for this folder are enabled. The 'to' address might be different as well.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
No, all my 6 accounts (including the one involved) have no colors assigned.

It turns out that the sound channel (bell icon) for these 2 senders had both notification and sound on. I turned their channel sound to off and that solved my main annoyance.

The left side color bar is less of a problem so I will ignore it. Maybe it is part of a rule I created long ago but it will be hard to find which rule is involved so I can change it. So I will live with it.
[Android Apps and Games] wonsky21:
Hi. Any promos for pro version on black friday? ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Given that I have put over 4,500 hour of my time into this project and that almost all pro features are already free to use, it is always black Friday.
[Android Apps and Games] mi6hamburg:
Thank you for your kind answer.

Here's another shot: Colored "3 menu dots" (top right) and colored "filter" entry in menu. That way, activated filters can be quickly identified.

It's almost the same with e.g. new buttons in androids notification area - they are announced with a small "N" icon for "new" buttons.
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
I agree and it's worth buying it!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released experimental version 1.1370

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This release is marked a as preview release, so there won't be an update notification.

Managing network connectivity has been rewritten for a significant part to reduce battery usage and for faster network switching. This was tested thoroughly, but since it is a change in a core component of the app, this version is marked as experimental.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
So far so good, also with the WiFi+VPN combination with unmetered connections only.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
an experimental version on your experimental vacation , lol. thank you @ macel for continually making FE better. there are none that can compare.:good:

update : Vacation v.1.370 working as expected. waiting to report battery stats.:good:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Developing is fun, which is why I am currently concentrating on "hard core" development work and postpone new features, unless they are related, like the prefer IPv4 over IPv6 option, or will reduce the number of support questions.

For anyone testing the experimental version, you could try this:

Switching from WiFi to mobile data or the other way around

Enable/disable flight mode

Force sync = reload/reconnect/resync

Anything else network related

The reconnect delay, which means that FairEmail always waited 90 seconds when switching networks has been removed and was replaced by retrying for some longer. This was to avoid/is to recover from this issue:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq23

If it is not possible to connect to the email server for whatever reason (server refused/disconnected, internet does work properly, etc), FairEmail will follow this schema in an attempt to recover from it:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq123

Also, there is a new adaptive fast fail algorithm, which will we kick in when an account connection was prematurely terminated/lost several times before the connection was refreshed (=keep-alive). FairEmail will insert an extra pause of 15-60 minutes, depending on how fast the connection was lost. Basically, this boils down to dynamically switching to polling temporarily. This is to avoid fast reconnect cycles, for example caused by the email server terminating the connection every 5 minutes (which it really shouldn't do, but unfortunately happens in practice). Reconnecting every 5 minutes and re-synchronizing messages each time is rather expensive and will increase battery usage.

If you didn't already, please enable error reporting in the miscellaneous settings. When the adaptive fast fail algorithm is triggered, it will send a short report:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/b.../faircode/email/ServiceSynchronize.java#L1715

which allow me to see if things work as expected.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Switched from wifi to 4G+ and back to wifi . Woot woot rapid quick quick!! Love it!!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will always show the filter icon in the action bar when filtering. For now this is an experiment.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1371 1.1372

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
I really like your undo after accidentally trashing a mail (thx to Android 10 gesture navigation). It makes it really a breeze ?.
[Android Apps and Games] geronimoge:
Just wanted to say, that I'm using FairEmail for a while now and I'm really happy with it. I don't want to use any other mail app without all the useful features. So have a nice weekend.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=4163983]mi6hamburg[/MENTION] can you please give me your opinion on the show-is-filtered solution in version 1.1372:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] twistednl:
Hi [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] !

I'm using this brilliant app since a week now and donated for pro options.

Today I enabled pin security and enabled bionic (fingerprint).

How does this last option supposed to work?

The pin is working but no sign of fingerprint request. See screenshot.

Running latest version from github 1.1372 on Oneplus 8 on Android 11

Thanks for the great work! :laugh:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a remark below the PIN / biometric enable/disable button explaining your situation.

In short, if you set a PIN, biometric authentication will not be used.
[Android Apps and Games] twistednl:
OK! Little different then I'm used to in other apps. The fingerprint overrules the pin in my banking app for example.

I only see pin to enable/disable. Is that correct?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Just tap on the PIN button and reset the PIN to disable it.

I will see if I can make this more clear somehow.
[Android Apps and Games] twistednl:
Nice! works now :)

Thanks Marcel!
[Android Apps and Games] mi6hamburg:
Hi, thanks for asking for my opinion.

I like it better than the previous solution!

Even better in my opinion would be a permanent filter symbol greyed out (inactive) or colored (active).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There was no code change which can explain this in any case.
[Android Apps and Games] onliner:
I found the culprit, my keyboard (I think), when I am typing my email the keyboard suggests the full email address, if I try to log in with the suggested adress= error, but if I manually type the address = I can log in without problems.

First I thought: ok, the keyboard suggestion is wrong, so I took a screenshot and compared it with my manually written address, both are identical, the suggestion is ok.

I had never had this problem before, it is very strange, but the important thing is that it could be solved.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have updated the FAQ about STARTTLS with a link to the EFF article:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md#FAQ11

tl;dr; "Additionally, even if you configure STARTTLS perfectly and use a valid certificate, there’s still no guarantee your communication will be encrypted"
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
That's what xprivacylua is for.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Indeed, but not everybody can or want to use XPrivacyLua.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Still the same, not my lucky day.

I click on the link in the pro activation mail and am transferred to my browser which replies:

This site can’t be reached

eu.faircode.email’s server IP address could not be found.
[Android Apps and Games] steje:
Hello,

I switched my Samsung S5 to a google free Resurrection Remix without Gapps.

I delete all my social Networks e.g. Facebook, Instagramm etc.

So I have to install fdroid. Before I used fdroid I bought Aqual Mail.

This is in fdroid not to install.

It was a coincidence that I found Fairmail. in fdroid.

Really a very good program. I'm very impressed how good it is. After 10 minutes I made a donation.

Unfortunately, fdroid only has version 0.71 and I found a update in this post here.

Now, I load here my updates.

It would be nice if the updates in f droid were there too. Or if the program would automatically install the updates. So I could not realize that there were updates.

But Fairmail ist very good. Keep it up an thank you so much.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You'll need to click on the link in FairEmail, see also the instructions.

It is correct that the address doesn't exists.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
F-Droid updates are not very fast, this has been discussed already multiple times. This is out of my control and a reason why I don't support the F-Droid version.
[Android Apps and Games] tmotard:
Hi. I just purchased the pro version(PayPal) but can't unlock it... i can't pass the captcha....always asking for new challenge.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The captcha works, I am pretty sure about that. Maybe you'll need to disable your ad blocker?
[Android Apps and Games] tmotard:
You're right, it was my VPN. I stopped it and it worked. Thanks a lot.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Great.

A little bit about the captcha: without it I receive massive amounts of spam. It used to be the open source Secureimage captcha, but this solution hopelessly failed to prevent spam, which is a known problem, so I had to revert to the Google captcha again :(
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

$name$, $email$ tips you shared earlier are handy

Any more?