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[Touch CDMA Android Development] neach:
having a tough time with the keyboard - was working fine yesterday (30/10 kernel), updated to the 03/11, and the mapping seems to be off by about one key vertically, so i don't have use of the bottom mapped keys.

i seem to recall someone mentioning they were updating a keyboard - any word? i think thats pretty much the only major problem i've found so far - the battery meter seems to be a bit off, but the power collapse seems to be working great. was at about 15% battery (supposedly) last night, got up this morning, and it had dropped down to only 10%, which is great - i was expecting it to be totally dead.

got a few packages to install OK, email seems to be working great (mobile me), i can't seem to set my voicemail number... i think that's about it :) no crashes in either this kernel, or the one i used before... lookin great!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] keenish27:
everything seems to work fine today. i did have touchpad stop functioning after i powered back up once. Also when you login to google you go to google login service in dev tools right? I type in my gmail account info and such and i think it authenticates...but i can't get calendar to work. is it supposed to sync or am i just dumb?

Also it doesn't detect my sd card. i'm not sure if this function was up and running yet.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fredcatsmommy:
that quoted text was written almost two months ago, but I'm having the touch screen issue; could this be a possible fix for me?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jakub_w:
nm, sorry. figured this one out.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Ideal2545:
Okay so, i did a little research on my phone and the radio options, currently, officially from sprint, the radio is 3.42.30, from BELL it is 3.42.50

So I went to the htc website, I download the BELL official rom, and upgraded my radio to 3.42.50 on my SPRINT touch. Now I will begin a new full days worth of testing. I would recommend to meccax5 to do the same thing, you should make sure to patch your phone, check out www.ppcgeeks.com forums to download the right unlocker to the phone and then do the bell upgrade (dont let the carrier customization run, and download the DCD Sprint cab file, or download OMJ's ROM or someone elses), this link will help if your not sure whats going on.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=30332
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
That problem should have been fixed in the latest kernel.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
just wanted to note that i have .30 and have never experienced any of the touchscreen problems.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gima2002:
Hi guys I am not sure if you have come across this before or not but it seems that this a soft input keyboard that is native to Android. I am hoping Martin can incorporate it in his work. The file is at http://www.dotphone.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=13.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
its in chinese and looks like it would be very small. might lead to something though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] d3mon187:
x2 - Haven't noticed any problems with .30 vs .50. If I have any problems and the only solution is the upgrade then I will, but until then I have been using the older builds without ever having the screen become unresponsive or not wake up properly.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Ideal2545:
Looks like it has an english counterpart to it too, so hopefully!

As for the upgrade,

My problems HAVE stopped, so if you do have problems, I would do the upgrade.

-Jon
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natelust:
keyboard

That soft keyboard looks like a bad idea. Though it does do t9, it looks much to small to use w/o the stylist. I can peck with my thumbs in the current one in landscape
[Touch CDMA Android Development] meccax5:
the touch screen stopped malfunctioning? and also how does it affect ur battery? from 8 am to 430 pm, i went down to under 20 percent, regular usage.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] edgevision:
this is unreal.

android has won my heart. i'm so pleased with the funambol contact syncing and smoothness of the UI. most of all i'm impressed with the thumb-friendliness of it as well as the speed (totally trumps WinMo.)

one thing is left that is bugging me.. i can't receive incoming SMS messages. i have tried sending them to myself both through bell's service as well as from friends' phones. i CAN send messages; just can't receive them.

would a radio upgrade fix this? i think i'm running radio 3.37. i'm also using NFSFAN's rom.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Ideal2545:
I have been using it for about 5 hours now, the battery meter on the android side says 55 percent, on the windows mobile side it says 80 percent. I have made a phonecall, sent a few txts, had some heavy internet usage downloading applications, and ive just in general been really messing around with it, so far so good.

-Jon
[Touch CDMA Android Development] meccax5:
can you confirm that ur not getting touch screen problems after a number of phone calls?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
well lets keep in mind that the stock skin/layout for pcm keyboard is hardly thum usable,

very

small. But if you simply go ahead and apply a different skin, it can literally take up almost the entire screen or none of it.

I don't think we should rule this out and say that it looks like a bad idea just yet. I'm not saying it will be solved by skins or anything, but considering the fact that we know nothing about it...we should look into it more, and keep it as a possibility/consideration.

I'd just recommend upgrading the radio. This seems to cause a lot of problems, and you may as well update anyway.

I don't want to be rude or anything here, but he said in capital letters that his touch screen problems HAVE stopped. so do the upgrade if you have problems. this thread is cluttered enough, and it seems that there have been a

lot

more posts made about this issue than need be.

Just do the upgrade :) it will benefit you anyway, you will end up doing it in the long run; you have nothing to lose. Rule of these boards: try all possible solutions (especially if they have been said in caps that they for sure work),

then

report back if you still have problems
[Touch CDMA Android Development] roxorz:
this new version is working great for me
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bugzy:
which version are you using? link?

also, on the 10-30 version, i make 1 call, and everything is blank and i cant use the buttons

what am i doing wrong?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bugzy:
whats details on the contact sync'n?

anyone know if Android can sync contacts with Exchange server like WinMo?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] roxorz:
well now my touchscreen quits working after a phone call
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jakub_w:
i have the SAME problem as you, no one has addressed me yet. i've posted it several times with no replies. it's not the radio, i have 3.42.50 (im also on bell, using NFSFAN's 1.20rom)

so.....

A) its a bell problem, somehow?

B) NFSFAN rom problem

C) something in android
[Touch CDMA Android Development] roxorz:
yeah but that keyboard probably won't jump around the screen when we try to type. i'd rather have a portrait and landscape keyboard if possible. that would give us an extra hard button back
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
Sorry I have been meaning to respond to this, I apologize for leaving ya hanging out there, though I don't believe that I can provide much beyond the simple solution.

Flash to the new radio, and I would recommend using another rom while you are at it just in case. If it works, then go back to the rom you have now, and hopefully it works using that rom as well.

Be sure to report back and tell us what was causing the issue in the end as far as you are able to discern; the radio, the rom, or a combination of the two.

Good luck.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] meccax5:
Well i guess i am not the only one. why dont u wait a little until u talk.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jakub_w:
hey jim thanks for the quick response now. although im not sure if you misunderstood part of my post, but I am already on the newest radio 3.42.50 so i don't think re-flashing would do anything in my case. however, i will soon try another rom once i find a good enough one (NFSFAN roms are hard to beat lol, unless of course android doesnt work!:mad:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Ideal2545:
Okay so I called my voicemail about 10 times, waited until the screen shut off and the red led turned on while in the call, no problems with the touchscreen whatsoever.

IF you are on radio 3.24.30 UPGRADE to 3.24.50, it worked for me.

Thanks,

Jon
[Touch CDMA Android Development] roxorz:
i'm on on 3.24.50 and froze only when someone calls me
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
It's possibly an encoding for the SMS that I don't cater for. I'll add some debugging code to the next build.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
Hey I'm just saying that a solution was proposed many many times and you refused to give it a shot.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Ideal2545:
well I guess I am a liar, the phone worked awesome all day, made about 20 phonecalls, txted, surfed the web, wrote emails, when i got home i switched on the screen AND the touchscreen didnt function anymore :( I havent experienced the problem again yet, im hoping it was just a random lock up.

-Jon
[Touch CDMA Android Development] qwho:
The latest version seems to work great. I remember seeing modified screens for the dialer and the calculator on here though, yet the version I downloaded still had the keys too large.

Also, there seems to be a sensitivity issue with my screen... sometimes when I touch it to click something it thinks I am scrolling quickly to the left or right... Just opening an icon on the desktop will switch me to the empty screens on the sides occasionally. When I try to zoom in on the maps app it will some times think a single press on the plus sign is an upward swipe, and I end up in Canada instead of the US...

I really think the ability to change the button assignments is going to be necessary. Hopefully someone will figure out how to save us some buttons, by maybe invoking the keyboard by doing a sweeping motion similar to the way touch flow works on windows mobile...

Overall the most usable version yet...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pchasco:
I've been using Android for the last 24 hours. Updating to the latest radio version (3.42.50) makes all the difference in stability. I'm not the best test case though; I didn't receive any calls or texts. There are only five problems remaining that prevent me from going Android full time. They are (in order of importance):

* Doesn't detect when earphones have been plugged in or provide any way to switch output

* Doesn't read media info from WMA files.

* No PPP dial-on-demand

* No camera

* No SD card support

Dzo: Thanks for all of the hard work! Obviously I don't expect you to drop what you are doing to work on these or to even work on them at all. You've already done so much!

My development efforts are being focused mainly on userland apps. I'm currently getting started on a couple of Android efforts that hopefully I'll be announcing in the coming months.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] hystrix:
I just want to say thanks to DZO for all the work on this so far.

I have been using the latest "3/11/2008" files for 24 hrs with no issues.

One thing that I cant seem to do is add new applications.

I have attached a screen capture of the root of my sd card from windows explorer so if anyone sees a problem, please let me know.

Thank's in advance, hystrix ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] brunes:
I really like this as well and can't wait for Android to add the ability to auto-launch soft keyboards when you focus an input like in WinMo. Not everyone likes the current giant landscape one, I prefer a smaller keyboard that doesn't need to change the whole screen layout.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jakub_w:
great thank you!

and another note of possible relevance, when i send short (1 message size 160 characters or whatever the limit is) texts they get sent fine. but when i send a long message (takes over 160 chars length) the recipient gets a bunch of random letters and symbols like "AuI&$9%BV6#" etc.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tripleoptic:
I prefer the same. I hate the landscape keyboard. It's better than nothing but I don't think I will ever use android on the touch without the touch keyboard with t9 or some kind of portrait full qwerty like what is currently used in winmo. IMHO. I also realize it's certainly not near the top of the list at this point. So I wait =]
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prodigy2m:
Touchscreen NON responding

Hey, I been testing yesterday the whole day, and had to restart the device 3 times because of that problem. What I noticed that it happens only when the screen shuts off by it self not by user shutting it off. So, if you leave the phone until it shuts off, when you turn the screen again sometimes the touch screen will stop responding until you restart the device. I hope that will help.

I will see if I get more details. The other problem is with a keyboard. When you click on the middle of the text to fix something and than press the button of the keyboard to show up it resets it self to the "Compose to" box instead of text and that makes it lot more complicated to type.

And one more problem, I am getting some sort of text msgs from number 000000. What is that???

Thank you guys for you work.:cool:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] d3mon187:
I think when you get a voicemail you will get a text message from 00000, but I did notice that I got two texts from that number and hadn't received any calls and there were no new messages on my voicemail?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jakub_w:
yes, to confirm the posts above, 00000 is voicemail

when i checked my voicemail after i had messages. try it from your house phone if you have one/want to
[Touch CDMA Android Development] goldengraham:
Hey guys,

I recently installed the 11/03 build of this and I'm having the same problems I've had since the start.

1. my sd card is not recognized

2. phone locks up when txt is recieved (not 100% proven, but pretty close)

3. my screen locks up (noted by others)

Besides that this is really starting to come together. Is somebody going to fix the icons/text issue where the letters and icons are all bundled together? (I'd imagine this was caused by the resolution change between phones.

Keep up the good work

GG

P.s. I should probably mention that I'm on Bell Mobility with the latest radio installed, and using WDM Diamond rom (tho i dont think that matters)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Kiraly:
I agree. I use TouchPal in WM and can't wait for a similar keyboard in Android. When Android officially supports on-screen keyboards (1st quarter 2009) I think that we'll have plenty of options. I wouldn't be surprised to see TouchPal on Android.

I can use Android with the current keyboard. I don't for very long periods of time though. It's too tedious to enter text right now. For me, a better keyboard would be the difference between just playing with Android and actually using it on a daily basis. I can live with the occasional screen lock or whatever.....Heck I had a Treo 700w with WM5 that required multiple soft resets per week....a reset every now and then for Android is no big deal considering we're developing it to work on our existing hardware.

BTW, (not directed at you tripleoptic) I have the Sprint Touch with radio 3.42.30 and I have not been having many problems with Android. I don't think it's wise to tell peeps to upgrade their radio without letting them know of the consequences. Much can go wrong and for those that are hesitant to upgrade, it's because they don't want to brick their phone. There are just as many people with the Sprint radio reporting that Android works fine as there are with the Bell radio. I haven't seen any compelling evidence that Android works better with one radio or the other.

This brings up a question: Is there even a difference in the radios? One is Bell and the other is Sprint. Could it be that they are the same radio with network-specific numbering? Until there is compelling evidence that the .50 radio is different and more beneficial than the .30 radio I, personally, would not upgrade.

When I have had problems in Android I simply deleted ALL Android files from my SD card and started over with the most recent build. Without fail this has solved my problems. YMMV
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jakub_w:
ok so this should provide some insight into the text messaging issue. seems that everyone on bell mobility is having a problem. but at least he is receiving texts, whereas i am not. both of us are on 3.42.50

very odd
[Touch CDMA Android Development] goldengraham:
I've noticed something else also. Andriod won't initialize its own data connection, it has to be previously established by WM. I think this was noted somewhere else before, but I'm just confirming I have the same problem

GG
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
Right. This has always been an issue.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prodigy2m:
Android Vogue Community

I wish I wish, the SD card will start to work and we can install android market place on it :rolleyes:

Ohh by the way I noticed that not all the programs run off SD card when you manually place it into the AndroidApps folder. I wonder why? And I cannot find android market place application on the internet. So weird.:confused:

My touch screen locked again...:mad:

Ohh and thanks for the reply about 000000. I have no voicemail but you know.... it's sprint, they sometimes sent weird messages.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] njakobs:
In my experience when you have all the files on the SD card as you do random problems occur. I think this maybe related to when Linux takes over the file system.

I would always recommend having all files except the data and system images stored in your phone memory (it is only like 1meg or so, so no huge loss)

Cheers
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prodigy2m:
Are you sure about that because before I tested that and it didn't even go into android.... it failed to start... Did you try it yourself? Did the SD card worked?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] hystrix:
Moving files onto device worked! I have been able to add apps thanx for the advice.:D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prodigy2m:
Which advice? Which files you need to move? And, what programs were you able to download? Please tell me...:eek:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] hystrix:
Moved default.txt, haret, intrid, and zImage onto the root of my device. Left AndroidApps, data, and system in root of sd card. So far, I have been able to add funambol to sync my contacts, and slideme (HTC Vogue Radio 3.42.50).:eek::)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prodigy2m:
Ohh yeah, AndroidApps works without even moving files out of sd card. But, cool.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Can someone having touchscreen wakeup problems try this kernel:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage

I'm busy working on the camera, I've written the driver, just have to make it work now!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] brunes:
Holy crap dzo you have to slow down or you're gonna make me have a seizure I am so excited :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Ideal2545:
okay i loaded up the new kernel, im starting testing right now, as of 3:30pm PST. I will write the minute I have a problem.

-Jon
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Ideal2545:
Martin,

Would it be possible for you to code something so that, if your SMS recieves a message from "000000" it intercepts it and just makes it a voicemail alert, not even a counter or anything, just would be something small and cool.

Thanks,

Jon
[Touch CDMA Android Development] edgevision:
okay. i upgraded to 3.42.50 radio and still no incoming texts. so as with you guys, the radio upgrade didn't do anything. that being said, android is now stable as all hell and everything i need it to do is working beautifully.

i'm also on bell mobility.

also, while i was on nfsfan's rom earlier with 3.37, i am now running the official bell mobility rom (3.42.50) so the issue is not specific to nfsfan roms.

looking forward to that debugging build :) as i can't wait to use android full time.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] meccax5:
will give it a try now.

update: been making alot of phone calls and so far no hang ups with the touch screen. in fact it feels more responsive, i dunno maybe i think that cuz i know the new kernel is suppose to address the touch screen. Also, what about battery life. this think destroys my battery. I have heard tho that the G1 dies quickly too, it has a 1100 mAh, so maybe we just need to get an extended battery, i might get a 2000 mAh.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jakub_w:
great thank you for doing this! I was going to try the official bell rom as well but I will stay on NFSFAN rom seeing as this happens with other roms.

also looking forward to debugging this issue, thanks for the response martin!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bugzy:
dzo !! awesome amazing work

is there a way to change the vibration in the soft keyboard?

is there a way to make the text size a lil smaller to fit the Vogue's screen?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jdw7985:
does the AdroidApps folder work for everyone? I've yet to have anything read from there. The apps seem to be downloaded as zip files...di you have to rename or does it read in that form. I've searched but yet to find the answer
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
yep, when you're downloading them just be sure that they are saved as .apk files and you should be good to go :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bugzy:
only app ive loaded on top of the built in apps was Funambol ... which worked when you put a .apk file in the AndroidApps directory on the SD card
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
I've tried this file and cannot get it to work. I notice it is in a .zip format. It will not unzip. Assuming it was a file naming issue, i renamed it to softkey.apk - Still no luck. All the support on the board is chinese, so perhaps someone can shed some light on it. Looks cool though.

Here is the direct download:

http://www.dotphone.org/attachment.php?aid=110

Instructions:

http://www.dotphone.org/viewthread.php?tid=231&extra=page=1

Screenshot
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Ideal2545:
Hey Unsung,

I asked on an android development forum about that keyboard, that keyboard is only coded to work with programs designed for it, I guess android doesn't have any kind of 'plug in' feature to make any keyboard work with all apps... yet.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] spamftw:
Wow guys, the progress here is unbelievable, once I get Funamobl up and running, I plan to exclusivly use Android.

Nice work Martin and everyone else who has contributed to this project! Keep up the awesome work.

PS, you developers should get an irc channel... probably make communcation a lot easier.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] d1rtyd33z:
mount sdcard

When I try to view images or media, I get a screen telling me that there is no sdcard inserted. I have the android kernel and haret in /Android/ and the system. and data in /Storage Card/ . Android boots fine, calls work, I just cant get anything to work with the SDCard. I apolgize if this has been covered before, but I couldn't find anything when searching the thread, and I haven't re-read all 160 pages of the thread. I've been trying to keep some of the how-tos on my wiki at http://d33z.com/dan/index.php?title=Main_Page but I lost track of the thread for a while and missed out on a bunch of stuff.

This thread needs its own table of contents.

EDIT: Adding /AndroidApps in the /Storage Card/ folder and copying .apks to that directory results in new applications showing up in Android, so I know the card is working, just some apps can't access it? I added Ambient and using the File Browser, I can find my /sdcard/ is mounted properly and my files show up there. I just can't figure out why applications looking for the SDCard can't find it.