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[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Someone would need to make a custom utility to flash the ROM of your device. I really don't understand why everyone wants to do this so urgently. Android is an awesome OS, but hasn't been fully ported to the Touch, and once you replace the Windows ROM with Android, there's no going back until someone creates a flash utlity for Touch/Android.

So many people want this unstable OS on their phones... it's a bad idea right now. For one thing, updating Android would become next to impossible because right now we have no facilities to do so in Android. No USB, very sketchy console access, and an inability to save any files from the web.

Speaking of the web, as soon as you had to reboot your phone, or you lost signal for even a minute, you would never have data access on your phone again, as there is no dial-on-demand at the moment.

Thirdly, until Android on the Touch is damn-near perfect, I'm quite sure that flashing the ROM with Android is going to be at the very bottom of any developer's priority list.

And last, is it really that big a hassle for you to boot up Android from Windows, considering all these shortcomings?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] DssTrainer:
I think first we need Android on the G1 to be damn-near perfect. But I can see the mindset of wanting to just be able to go straight into it and call the Touch an "Android" device... but yea there is still a lot of finishing up the base before finally making the hard switch. Its only been tested for a week in people's hands.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] woodicw:
hey dzo, do you have a paypal account? I'd like to make a donation but it seems the only way to do that now is by clicking on the ads at myhtcphone.com
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
EMail / Timezone issue

Just one more issue to bring up.

K, so the timezone info by default is set to GMT. The phone grabs the time from the cell network, so the time shows up as it should for my timezone (EST.)

However, when I go to my Inbox in the Email apk, the times for all my emails are 4 hours ahead, because the phone thinks it's in the wrong timezone. If I set the timezone properly in the phone, then my clock is wrong when it syncs with the cell network.

I'm guessing this can be resolved by changing Android's time setting from UTC to Local, or vice versa.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheAccuser:
Working with Sprint Touch Pro or Diamond?

I searched the forums and didn't see any mention. Has anyone gotten this to work with the Sprint Touch Pro or Diamond?

I did get it to run on my Mogul, but am unable to make any voice calls or use data. Do I need to config something to get voice/data to work?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Grondinm:
i think this version is specific to the vogue and probably wont work well on any other device...i know some others are working on version for other phones....not sure who or where...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
I dunno about the Pro, but here's the thread for the Diamond.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=402002

They don't seem to have it together quite as well as we do for the Touch. I glanced over the thread a little earlier today, and it seems like there are problems with the RTC driver. I'm going to try and get a Diamond myself, and a friend and I are going to see what we can do with it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pchasco:
Android Market

I have Vending.apk, the Market package. I've installed it on my phone but it doesn't seem to appear anywhere within the menu. Is there any way to launch an application without the menu?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eoche007:
hey can u upload the vending.apk or tell me where u downloaded it from? thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pchasco:
It's not open source, so I don't know whether it is OK for me to distribute it. If I find out that it's OK, I'll go ahead and upload it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
LOL you're such a tease!

Did you check in the Dev Tools? That's where Telnet shows up, anyway. Maybe with the vending.apk being closed source, they've got it checking for certain prerequisites before it can be run... like phone model, or cell carrier or something.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
hey thanks a lot. everything seems to still work great, except for the fact that the sd card is still not seen (on 6gb sdhc)

power collapse works GREAT. like the tones in the dialer.

thanks, keep up the great work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Has anyone else been able to save their Voicemail number in the Settings app?

I can't, and I'm pretty sure it's because Android wants to save it to a SIM card, and the HTC Touch on Telus doesn't use a SIM card... anyone else's Vogue/Touch have a SIM card, or are they all SIMless?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
Just wanted to jump out and make this distinction again for anyone who is confused :)

No Vogue has a SIM card. The reason being because it is CDMA. Now all the GSM variants of the touch (Elf(in)) of course do require them, every one of them.

So any phone that runs on a CDMA network (such as ours) does not have a sim card. These networks/carriers include:

Verizon,

Sprint,

Telus,

Alltel,

etc...

:) there ya go!

(and yes lol that means that if your phone has a SIM card you

are

in the wrong sub-forum)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fredcatsmommy:
I've looked high and low and can't seem to find an answer to how to set this up. I downloaded the most recent .zip (10/28), and extraced to my sd card, moved the data and system files to the root, and while android "loads" using haret.exe, I get a locked screen. Somewhere I read to use the volume slider to unlock, which works sometimes, but even when it does, I can't access anything. I did not have this problem with earlier releases. I'm sure there's a simple answer; I just can't find it. I'd really appreciate if someone could set out how to set this up, and any other how-to's that aren't self-evident. Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
I assume that you have haret and all other files in the same folder together somewhere?

Also, the menu button is the down button on the slider. So when Android comes up, just push the volume slider down and you will be good to go! The touch screen and everything works just fine so you should be fine....what exactly do you mean by you can't access anything?

Be sure to have all files called "system" or "data" delted except for the one of each that you specifically placed their for this build of android.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fredcatsmommy:
Yes, all those files are together, and I did delete all other data and system files from prior builds. What I meant by couldn't access is that, unlike with prior builds, the touch screen is not working. Also, the down button on the slider is now not unlocking the screen at all. This is so frustrating since it sounds like great progress is being made!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
and no my vmail # won't save either :(

- "Voicemail number save unsuccessful" or something like that.

wow hmm that is really strange. sorry man I got nothing :S
[Touch CDMA Android Development] smopoim86:
I have an 8gb card that is still not recognized.

I can't wait for this to get good. As a phone OS, Android pwns WinMobile

EDIT: also, the lack of symbol function on the keyboard is a problem for me
[Touch CDMA Android Development] casualonejp:
files not unzipping

After putting the files onto the root of my sd card and booting haret, it goes into the endless loop I was talking about earlier. But, after booting back into WinMO I found that system.gz, data.gz and initrd.gz never get extracted and just stay that way.

I don't know if this has anything to do with anything but I figured I would post it anyways. :confused:

Edit: This is using the latest 28-10-2008 build.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
yup mines in an endless power wakeup loop as well. its been this way for awhile with the last few builds.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fredcatsmommy:
has anyone had it boot, unlocked the locked screen, but then the screen doesn't respond to touch?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Ideal2545:
Im still having problems with sleep mode. It will go to sleep on its own, and if i leave it there longer than 5 minutes I can no longer wake it up. Besides that, this is comming along great :) I would love to donate to the cause if there is a paypal somewhere. Excellent work guys. I cant wait until the resolution issues and charging icons are working!

Thanks,

Jon
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gima2002:
Actualy it seems that that the symbols issue has been fixed in the latest build.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
A new build is available, it fixes a few things, the vibrator works better now and can be turned on and off, audio works now for incoming calls (was broken in yesterday's build).

Here is my paypal if you're feeling generous:

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...bn=PP-DonationsBF:btn_donate_SM.gif:NonHosted

Martin
[Touch CDMA Android Development] 1loudsvt:
i have a *.apk file how do i install it? i searched but did not find anything. thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] woodicw:
put it in a folder called AndroidApps in the root of your SD card
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jakub_w:
testing 29-10-08 build now, will edit post with findings

EDIT:

voicemail works when i dial my number, not when i set it in settings.

can't receive text messages

still doesnt recognize SD card (regular 2gb card)

power off works now (wondering if there is any way to quit without a reset?)

incoming calls WORK! (but only once phone is in red flashing led mode, or screen is on)

keyboard - symbols work! mostly..
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
Dang it we need a good keyboard. the closer we get to an awesome perfect build, the more excited I get. But then I am always returned to the fact that input (speed) is still very limited.

Has anyone heard of anything at all for rumors of a sip being developed? Man i wish we could have pocketcm on android...

Thanks a lot dzo, will test soon and report.

Jim.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] njakobs:
Txt messages seem to work ok for me with this build as do incoming calls.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] woodicw:
what I'm really hoping for is that Swype input technology comes to android, that would be awesome (swypeinc.com).other than that the keyboard now works ok for my minimal usage, but a t9 input method would be super duper too
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bugmen0t:
this whole "android open-source" project is being run terribly. I sync'd today, and it looks like the build has been broken for 5 days. Someone submitted a fix 4 days ago and it still has not been merged. DNS has been broken since the release, and still remains unfixed.

Here's the fixed dialer...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/28/2163736/Contacts.apk
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Nice! I'm gonna load this up right now, along with the new build.

Martin, is the latest build just the kernel, or the images as well?

EDIT: Bugmenot: the contacts app doesn't seem to replace the dialer that's there already. Anything particular I should do to get this to work? put it in the data.img perhaps?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ttown92:
is there a cab

I cant get this to work on my vogue.. i have the sprint version too.. but it starts to boot up and then just stops it doesnt go all the way threw can someone just make a cab for me
[Touch CDMA Android Development] njakobs:
Ok

1) It is "through" not "threw". I threw my vogue very hard against the wall because android didn't work. The installation didn't complete all the way through.

LMAO ok ok now onto the stuff you want.

2) You don't need a cab it wont do anything that you can't very easily do yourself.

3) Just follow these steps.

i) Extract files out of the zip file (assuming you have the latest version downloaded from DZO's site)

ii) Create a folder in your phone memory (I use /program files/android)

iii) Copy these files to that folder

zimage (make sure windows doesn't add an extension to this)

haret.exe

default.txt

initrid.gz

iv) copy the remaining two files to the root of your sd card.

system.gz

data.gz

(Note: After the first run these will be extracted to be data.img and system.img)

v) use file explorer on your phone and double tap on haret. Tap run.

Happy Androiding.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] spamftw:
Android Cab

Hey man,

the good fellows (or really fellow more) at myhtcphone made a cab of an android install.

http://www.myhtcphone.com/downloads/14-files/3-file-for-automatic-and-easy-installation

its on there. since it's a premade cab, it wont have some of the most recent fixes that have been stated on this forum... but if you just want to see what android looks like, this is a great place to start.

One note, if after you install (on an sd card only) the shortcut in programs doesnt work, open up file manager, navigate to the SD Card and find Program Files/Android/harlet.exe. Brace yourself and open it up (no need to brace yourself really)

Enjoy man.

spamftw
[Touch CDMA Android Development] keenish27:
I have a verizon vx6900 and installed andriod. It mostly works, however i noticed during the boot sequence that it sad "old radio: disabled audio". How can i update my radio so that i can have audio. I did a quick search on this forum but i didn't get a result for it. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bugmen0t:
Could you post the RIL diff somewhere? I want to get the data connection working without having to start it from WM.

Also, if you want to add the new dialer to your image, here's the diff for it:

diff.txt

Edit: Also, I think you made a typo in the battery code: battery.c, line 337.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Praiz2ELoHiM:
dzo's audio fixes are in conjunction with assuming that your radio is 3.42. You need to flash your device to upgrade it to the new radio.

i believe jim2561 wrote a how-to on it. I couldn't find DHarvey's one on PPC geeks, which is the one I initially used. But jim2561's is pretty much the same thing.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17473

scroll down to "GPS/REV A STUFF: Quick How-To for gps/rev a flash/upgrade"
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gima2002:
Power button is no longer working as home button

I installed the latest build and I noticed that the power button is no longer working as the home button. I also had something strange happen while testing the latest build. I started the media scanner and opened the music player at first it started recognizing the files but then the player all of sudden lost them and gave me the no SD card message again. I have tried using the previous build yesterday and it seems to be fairly stable we are almost there we just need the SD card to be recognizable and if we can get the app store to work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
as for this:

1st, thanks for referencing my post :) (its also in my sig :) )

but sadly secondly, I don't think that this can currently be done, as verizon has not yet released a gps/rev a enabled rom/radio.

shoot a pm to unsungboxer and see what he gives you, we were pm'ing back and forth like crazy about 2 weeks ago trying to troubleshoot the issue and get it resolved. you might try seeing if he ever came up with anything after we arrived at a dead end.

YES! now that would be awesome, getting that data connection going/fixed. good luck and thank you!

The power button still seems to be functioning as the home button for me, though still once again no ability to read from/recognize the sd :(
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Praiz2ELoHiM:
On the contrary... i know it works because i have Verizon.

-I have a Verizon XV6900.

-Per DHarvey's instruction's used the Sprint Rom to flash my radio. Did NOT let customizations run. Successfully flashed to a GPS/RevA rom.

-Loaded a homecook WM6.1 rom from Whosdaman made for Verizon (call codes, internet auth codes etc). Also tested GPS and it works great!

-Have run every single iteration of dzo's Android from 0.9beta, 1.0SDK to opensource with ZERO problems.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
hmm ya that all sounds about right. and that's what I was talking about with jake but...hmm I know I'm forgetting something. Maybe his carrier wasn't Verizon. ah idk I can't remember. Thanks though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Hi,

A diff for the ril is here:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/rildiff

This doesn't include the sms conversion code but if you remove the gsm_to_cdma and cdma_to_gsm calls it should compile. If you change PPP_TTY_PATH to /dev/smd1 and get requestSetupDefaultPDP to dial #777 it may work. (my image uses the old pppd is /bin because I couldn't get the new one to work so you will have to remove that).

The battery code is just a first attempt, it's not working yet.

Martin
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
yup using vzw with alltel rom flash. android works well. :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
dzo, maybe it wouldnt be a bad idea to update your OP with the link to all the apk's?

lol ok great, couldn't quite remember ;) :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zaq1234:
How do I get the led to shut off? It remains on at all tmes.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Yeah, that bothers me a wee bit, but let's wait until we get things like the battery meter, the camera, full SD card support, GPS and Marketplace working.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
pchasco: just a thought... did you go into Application settings and make sure you allow apps from Unknown Sources?

I'm not saying it's a definite solution, just thinking out loud (since you won't provide us with the upload to test ourselves... jerk. i kid, i kid)

And when you go to Manage Applications, does it show up there?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
The led is to test power management, red means it is power collapsed, amber means power is on and green means it didn't wake properly from power collapse (hopefully shouldn't happen). I'd rather keep the led on at the moment because it means people can tell me if it locks up when power is collapsed. I don't think it uses significant power anyway.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Ideal2545:
Yeah, im still having problems with power collapse (getting the red led). Do i need to update the default.txt at all with the latest release from your site?

Thanks,

Jon
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
I've updated the kernel with a somewhat working battery meter. I can get all the information from the hardware but the actual value of the charge left in the battery is some complex function of voltage, temperature and current in and out. Until I can work out this function, I have made it depend only on the voltage, this means it's not reliable but should give you some idea of if the battery needs charging.

I messed with the pm driver too, it should wake up better now.

I tried adding bugmen0t's new dialer but it looks like it needs the open source framework, I'll try making a fully open source system image another time.

Only zImage has changed from yesterday's build. Available here:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Power collapse should work fine now, having the red led is good, it means the phone is using minimal power. If you can't wake it from this state then that is bad. A possible problem is that I don't think power collapse will work with the old radio.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Speaking of power collapse... there seems to still be an issue with apps waking the phone up... or at least the Alarm Clock waking it up.

I set my alarm for 7:00am in the morning, and left the phone charging via usb overnight... so somewhere in that 7 hours, the phone entered a state where the alarm clock wouldn't wake it up, and once i pressed the power (home) button to actually wake the phone up, the alarm sounded.

I know the alarm does work while the phone's in sleep mode. I tried setting the alarm 11 minutes in the future and putting the screen to sleep, and the alarm went off just fine.

Maybe this new kernel will fix it, i'll let you know if the phone goes off tomorrow morning.

Also, Martin... would it help to look at battery meters on other phones that officially run linux, to figure out how to calculate the remaining charge?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Ideal2545:
My Apologies, I ment I keep on getting the green l.e.d. Im also fully upgraded on the radio. Am I perhaps missing something in default.txt? I dont have it modified whatsoever.

Thanks,

Jon
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
awesome news. I'll be sure to give this a shot real soon. Thanks again.

I just wanted to mention an issue similar to this:

The phone was asleep (I think it had been for quite a while, but don't really know).

I got a call, the ringer went off, but the screen did not turn on.

I pressed the green button, and was still able to answer.

Just thought I would throw that out there. There was obviously no way to turn on the screen, because I would have thereby hung up so..ya :S

Thanks again.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Zenn_Darkfire:
Thi swill probably sound really stupid but I am enw to the boards, is there anyway of putting Android on a LG Voyager? I love androids interface and would love to not have to switch plans to get it (plus I can't waitlol)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] corpashe:
no there isnt and there will probably not be a way
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
I noticed when grabbing widgets (like the clock), it has a small pulse vibe feedback. I think this is a nice really touch! This would be cool to keep in mind for the next version of the keyboard.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
doesn't the keyboard do that already? mine sure does, anyway.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derekwilkinson:
Is there a bug-list anywhere?

When the keyboard is enabled, the screen goes up and down, so that I cannot see what I am typing. Is this normal?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] natelust:
power led

on the latest version the led dosnt turn red, im not sure if that means you changed it or in the latest release my phone is not going into power collapse.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pchasco:
Yes. dzo explained it somewhere, probably about 30 pages back :D. It has something to do with using the last position the screen was drawn as the area that will be shown in the available screen area. It bounces around because different areas of the screen are being drawn to, and because there isn't a proper software input framework in Android yet, no real Android-y on-screen keyboard can exist. This one we're using is implemented as a kernel-mode driver, I think.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] njakobs:
Yes this is normal. Hopefully a better keyboard will fix this in the future.

The latest release works for me the red led comes on. So it sounds like your phone is not going into power collapse
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zaq1234:
Just hoping it won't damage the led or it's circuitry. Although led's can run for thousands of hours its circuit if it is not made to be always on can burn out.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] d3mon187:
Well seeing as the green led is always blinking when the phone is on AND the led is on constantly when the phone is charging, I would assume always having it on is no big deal. It should be fine :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sadoway:
soo.. my problem i have..

with the oct 30th updated version

(had this with the last few)

i dont hear any sound when i use the dialer.

also when i dial a number its slow to show the number i press.

ill press a few.. then delete them.. and android will crash.

whenever i play with the dialer it crashes.. its been the last few updates. before the constant updates.. i had sounds.. but thats gone...

but android never stays on long enough for me to test anything. i dont feel its stable enought to use throughtout the day. i need to know if someones calling and this is my only phone.

i have an updated radio.. so i dunno
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
What version radio do you have, I use 3.42.50 and it's quite possible other versions don't work. Also make sure the gps is off when booting android.