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[Android Apps and Games] cpu2910:
Thx

This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] cobben:
By all means, sell it for a few million$ if you can,

you can always clone it later if you can't let it be.

I won't complain, and you could always consider thanking us your early adopters with some few % of the ill gotten gains. ;)

I have never noticed any economic viability in any open source projects as long as they remain pure open source, you have to monetize them in some fashion, and that always seems to involve, well - monetization!
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Feature suggestion:

When you've created a lot of rules, it is sometimes difficult for me to locate the one that did xyz. It would be nice to have a search capability in the 'Edit rules' screen.

Would an alternative method be the FairEmail log?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have no plans to add this, sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
How about save log to text file or copy paste from it?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Copy/paste a line can be done, but there won't be an export.
[Android Apps and Games] cobben:
Material Design was Googles choice for Android.

Mine would have been Jugend, but I am a tiny minority, and I think Google made basically the only right choice for a mass market product.

You can search for "Material Design" and "Bauhaus" if you are interested in the historical background, it is quite interesting.

https://www.catawiki.com/stories/5263-5-characteristics-of-bauhaus-art-architecture-and-design
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Unfortunately I can't on my phone. Long press won't select in the log screen contents. At least for me.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Next version ...
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Small comment - FE has a strong privacy/security focus which is often totally lacking in many other mail apps. Open source always leads to far stronger security/privacy than closed source.

FE is way better than most in this regard.

Also monetizing is often focused on reducing those issues (Marcel alluded to this already) or on the better side of that, by selling services other than "source" - IBM's recent purchase of Redhat for USD $34 billion being one such example (there are many). Economic value is an interesting pragmatic and academic topic to study - there is a difference, for example, between price of something and what that something is worth; either intrinsically or to person(s).

Thank you Marcel - I'm delighted to be a proud user of FairEmail.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Assuming a minimum hourly rate of 100 euros for a Western EU developer, no overhead (management, company costs, marketing, etc) and more than 2,500 hours put into FairEmail, FairEmail would theoretically be worth 250,000 euros ...
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
That is one measure for sure based on the cost to manufacture. It's intrinsic worth, which could be higher or lower, is something more like the present value of its future cash flow stream net of expenses. It's worth to different people may be higher or lower as well.

There is also the inherent value it provides by providing pleasure/enjoyment :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Of course, else this whole project would not exist ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I like to say again that any feature requested needs to be generally (=for most people) usable, else it will likely be rejected. Any feature that would complicate the usage of FairEmail wil likely be rejected too. This is not back and white, but a general rule of thumb.

For example requesting a setting to not manually synchronize certain accounts/folders will not be accepted because this will be useful in specific use cases only and will also complicate the settings of FairEmail. I am not even speaking about maintenance in the long run, which would be more problematic when FairEmail would become more complicated.

Currently I am being overflowed with questions and feature requests, which is slowly becoming a problem.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will fix the unexpected error when viewing some messages. For now you can prevent it by enabling hidden texts in the privacy settings.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Hi,

is there a way to avoid this:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
By switching to the normal view or by using a device with a bigger screen. Maybe by using shorter folder names.

Edit: although it is odd because the subject is set to single line in the compact mode. I will double check this.

Edit: the subject is not set to single line in the expanded view and this is by design. I see no obvious way to fix this.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

On latest stable version. Noticed something unusual in Gmail. Even after reading latest mail in conversation, it shows as unread despite force sync (display of duplicates is always disabled).

I didn't recall such a thing happen to me before. Am I missing something?

Thanks for your help
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Are you sure all duplicates were marked read too? Since a few version this is visible by a bold/highlighted 'Duplicate in ...' text (if enabled). This is the most likely cause in any case.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
That conversation now shows OK since I opened each message (after enabling duplicates).

How do I get rid of "Duplicate in..." text? Couldn't see in settings and if I disable that, will this problem be solved?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
'Duplicate in ...' can't be disabled and this won't be made possible because I have had too many questions about the number of messages being deleted and messages still showing unread ...
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Yes, I recall you saying this earlier too.

Anyway, now when I read a mail, it looks like the only way to mark it as read is from unified inbox, tap the three dot icon and mark it as read. Double tap doesn't seem to help.

Can we have the earlier behavior back unless that causes issues?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The behavior was not changed.

Please make sure the folder with the duplicate message (all messages, sent messages, etc) is set to synchronize, so the seen flag will be being pushed to FairEmail.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks Marcel. I can't believe inbox sync was disabled. I am sure I never did that.

Anyway, if it doesn't solve, I will revert. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] cobben:
And when you do (of course!) figure in the Management Overhead (the Ferraris, expensive restaurants, all the Management stuff), rent, financing, etc , you multiply that by a factor of 10 at least.

So your asking price is at least $2.5m euros. :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.776

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This is mainly a maintenance release, although the message header layout has been changed somewhat to create more room for the subject in the compact view. Basically the folder name has been removed and added to the addresses section and some icons were moved. [MENTION=7193240]jaholm[/MENTION] can you please let me know if the problematic message looks better now? A screenshot is appreciated to see the difference.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] sethnet:
I like the new layout of the header much better. Thank you!

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[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Looks significantly better!
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
This change is bigger than just 'somewhat'. For me it is very important to see the folder name inside the header, because it indicates where in the process the mail is and who is responsible for followup, with folder names like 'In process heinhuiz' and 'in process m66b', 'processed', 'archived' etc.

The conversation view really loses a lot of its power and potential with this change.

In fact, it seems you try to win back space for the subject that you earlier sacrificed by enlarging the identicon by removing crucial information.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am open to suggestions to bring the folder name back, but I don't see how this can be done without running into trouble with the subject. It could be put on a third line, but this is already the case in the normal view, so maybe you need to use that instead. Fitting everything into two lines just seems to be impossible without ugly edge cases.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Pls ref. the addition to my previous post: "In fact, it seems you try to win back space for the subject that you earlier sacrificed by enlarging the identicon by removing crucial information."
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The icon/contact photo takes some more space, but this is not the root cause for this problem. There is just not enough room to show both the subject and folder name on one line in all cases.
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
Hello,

When inside an email, I don't understand the purpose of the small arrow on the left side of the sender icon.

When the icon is down, I just have two compacted lines of the beginning of the message content, then a full empty page.

Very strange feature IMO.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This icon indicates what will happen when you tap the message: expand or collapse. Note that expanding marks the message read and might trigger a download of the message text. Edit: and inline images.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
For me, that's never been a problem. The way you cut long subjects by displaying the first and last part of it worked perfectly.

It seems you're choosing esthetics over usability, which is never a good idea for a tool.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please take a look at the earlier posted screenshots, especially of [MENTION=7193240]jaholm[/MENTION], and you'll see this is not about esthetics, but about usability.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Yes, I've seen those. Although I never encountered that problem myself, I think you've found the wrong solution.

I would happily lose the icons entirely if that would give me back the folder name. Maybe you can make that optional.

---------- Post added at 08:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:51 PM ----------

probably because [MENTION=7193240]jaholm[/MENTION] uses a larger font than me.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will consider to add an option for this.

An alternative would be to show the folder name on a third line in the conversation view, how about that?
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
I still don't get why would anyone need this view?
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
That is probably OK, I'd need to see it. You could consider to move other items to that line too, like the attachment icons and reply and forward symbols and maybe even the time.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It will be more useful when there are more messages in the conversation.
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
Ha ok, now I understand.

I never use conversation. I've disabled conversation completely.

Could you remove the collapse/expand arrow for when people have disabled conversation in settings?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, because large messages are still downloaded on demand on expanding a message when on a metered connection. In fact the most recent version will be more clear about this.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
No, I didn't change this. But this effect shouldn't happened (and could be rateed negatively on playstore by dummy users)
[Android Apps and Games] misquia:
I can trust that it only does what it's advertised with a network traffic monitoring tool. "Nine is not cloud based. It stores your accounts’ passwords only on the actual device. It connects only to the actual mail servers. It stores your messages only on the device."

As an app with 1 million+ downloads, pretty sure someone would've cried foul if the made a false claim.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Formatting done like colors, font etc is not visible in

a) sent mail

b) on browser G mail (tried from mobile)

I am not sure if the formatting is received correctly.

Can anyone clarify please?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
You never have any influence on how a mail is displayed to the recipient. I have several mail clients here and in each one a mail is displayed differently. Also, for security reasons, mails here are generally only displayed in text-only mode anyway - so I don't see any text attributes set by the sender, neither color nor font nor anything else.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Did you enable showing text colors in the display settings?

In any case I am pretty sure all formatting, including colors, works properly. Text colors will be shown in sent messages too.

All formatting is pretty standard, so other email clients should generally show the formatting too, when supported of course.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Yes I checked that before asking here. But it doesn't show in sent
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
For me it does.

Sent as in sent in FairEmail or in an external email client/website?
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Sent in FairEmail. Also external websites. Mailing myself from one Gmail account to another confirms that recipient does not get formatted text
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please send me a formatted message (bold, italic, underline, large/small and color) mentioning the FairEmail version you are using and I will check.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Sure. Sent. Forgot version. It is 1.776

Also shared raw message pertaining to self test mentioned earlier

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The reason the messages do not have formatting is:

Content-Type: text/[B]plain[/B]; charset=UTF-8
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks.

1. Your message arrived unformatted

2. I double checked . In display settings "show colors" is enabled

IDK where the problem is. 1.776 version
[Android Apps and Games] caprihome:
Hi,

you made a very good email app, respect for that!

One wish:

Could you make the unified inbox on a tablet in landscape format 2-columns when the app starts and not only when I mark a message?

Thank you very much.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
My message was sent in plain text too in response to your plain text message.

This is not caused by a bug: plain text messages cannot be formatted.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks. Send plain text by default in settings was disabled and mailed myself with formatting and it correctly showed in sent, received and on web sent too :)

Phew, this is what happens when I switch off from the app , ignoring features but easily fixed because of your help
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.777 1.778

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version shows the folder name in the compact view in conversations on a third line because I agree with [MENTION=4356248]heinhuiz[/MENTION] that it is necessary to show the folder name.

Some email apps explicitly send "black" as text color, which has become a special case when using a dark theme by showing the text color instead of a brightness adjusted color causing grey texts.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Thanks a lot! Look good this way, I just hope you won't get questions to move the folder name up to the second line :D

Earlier I asked to move the reply and forward icons to that same third line, but thinking about it: maybe, if applicable, you can show the attachment symbol here and (a part of) the file name of the attachment. If there are more attachments you could only mention the first one and add a '+2', for example.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I like to keep things simple.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Haha, me too, what would become complicated?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Multiple ways to show attachments is not the simplest solution.
[Android Apps and Games] geronimoge:
Hi there,

sometimes I want to remove or change recipients while writing a mail.

With other apps I had the possibility to remove a recipient with one fingerpress since shown name and mail is recognized as one.

With FairEmail I'll have to delete letter by letter.

Have I just missed this option?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What you are suggesting is called 'chips'.

Please see this FAQ about address chips:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq114
[Android Apps and Games] geronimoge:
Ok, I see. Thanks! If there is another way to remove "name and mail address" other than deleting letter by letter I would like that very much.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
How do you propose to do this, keeping in mind that backspace might be used to fix typos too?
[Android Apps and Games] geronimoge:
Good question! I'll try to explain an idea:

Name and mail is recognized as one recipient (since semicolon is recognized to separate recipients) and the first fingerpress on a recipient is marking both of it. So you can delete everything with pressing backspace once. If wanting to edit this recipient instead of removing you'd have to press once again.
[Android Apps and Games] womefa:
Feature request :angel:

I‘m using email with an catch all configuration: so I‘m using different email addresses for different only services (it‘s easier this way for filtering and blocking.

Some other usere may use the same concept by adding a „+“ to the address name („myemail+amazon AT gmail.com“ for example).

Thunderbird added a nice feature a while ago for setups like this: when composing a new message, you can click in the „From:“ dropdown and find „Customize

from address“ to change it onetime just for this message. It‘s way faster this way than adding or changing any identities in the app settings.

Could you add something like this in FairMail as well? Maybe this could be useful for others as well?

Thanks a lot :o
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can enable a similar feature in the advanced identity settings (setup, step 2, manage, tap identity, advanced).
[Android Apps and Games] womefa:
Ohh, I didn't see that. Thank you :o

Is there a way to leave the "Your name" field empty when configuring identities? As far as I know this is not mandatory when sending emails?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is not possible to leave the name field empty, although messages could be sent without name.

First of all it is better to send a name and secondly the name is used at a number of places.

Why would you like to use an empty name?
[Android Apps and Games] womefa:
That'a what I was looking for but couldn't find. Where is this configured? Inside of identities aswell?

QUOTE=M66B;80600555]Why would you like to use an empty name?[/QUOTE]

Sometimes I have to right as someone else while dealing with stuff for my parents for example. In cases like this it's confusing for recipients when sender name and signature aren't matching.

For this reason I've been using the actualemail address as "name" in the past, so for example:

"mail@example.com <mail@example.com>"

However, when I use your "change address feature" you have mentioned, I'm sending like this:

"mail@example.com <amazon@example.com>"

(because mail@example.com is still configured as name in this identity)

So I have to find a better configuration for me :D
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The name field is mandatory, but you can create a second, similar identity with another, more fitting name.

You can long press an identity in the list of identities to copy it.

How about making the name editable, like the username of the email address?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.779 1.780

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

[MENTION=7641259]geronimoge[/MENTION] set the cursor in an email address (Edit: it won't work if the cursor position is not set / the address field is not focused because else it won't be clear which email address should be selected) and long pressing the email address will select the email address only now, so you can easily delete it.

Please report any problems you discover.
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
Sorry, what does this mean?

Added apply to all user folders (three-dots overflow menu)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In the folder list, three-dots overflow menu top right, apply to all ...
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
Settings for sync is mean?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Very mean.

Seriously: see the folder properties for details (long press folder in folder list, edit properties).
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Very good addition
[Android Apps and Games] sethnet:
- Added apply to all user folders (three-dots overflow menu).

Thank you very much for adding this!

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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In the just released

beta

version 1.780 there is even one option more.

Can you please check if this displays okay on your screen?
[Android Apps and Games] sethnet:
It looks perfect.

Enviado desde mi ALP-L09 mediante Tapatalk
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
On mine too.

What does the phrase 'User' mean, under the title?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
User folders, not system folders.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Maybe change it to 'User folders only' then.
[Android Apps and Games] womefa:
Yes, making the name editable aswell would be a good compromise -- thank you :o
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
so glad i was able to donate.:cowboy: am really enjoying the pro features! thank you again [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION].

err on the side of kindness
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Next version ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.781

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds a setting for the (maximum) number of lines to preview.

Please report any problems you discover.
[Android Apps and Games] dhacke:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

For safety: Can you confirm that the tracker "Bugsnag" is deactivated by default?

I wasn't sure so i blacklisted all bugsnag urls which i found.

I hate tracker no matter whether it is for bug reporting or not?.

I just find him over the App "Androlyzer" which scans my apps regarding tracker and ads.

One improvement idea: Can you make a menu point where the user can activate/deactivate bugsnag? And per default is should stay at off of course.

Then the user would have the choice.

Update 1:

I guess i found the point for bugsnag (setting -> miscanellows -> Error reporting).

It's gray so i it seems deactivated by default.

But i in my opinion the section "data protection" is a better place for that together with a short explanation which tracker will be activated when the mentioned option is on and what information will be transmitted.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
Love this. Saves me from opening some emails.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
In the create rule screen (after the name field) is a field labeled 'Order'. It usually defaults to 10. It used to default to 1.

What does this field signify? Why were 10 or 1 chosen as defaults?

......

Thank you for adding a counter to the 'edit rules' screen but I don't think the counter is really counting.... See screenshot.

(It would be nice if the counter included last date invoked).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Bugsnag is disabled by default.

Please see this FAQ about all information about error reporting:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq104
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This field determines the order in which rules are executed. For example you want to add a star to a message first and after that move the message, not the other way around.

The default was changed to be able to insert a rule before an existing rule always.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Tried how it looks, didn't want it so feel back to no preview but in the unified inbox, earlier messages still display 3 lines

Looks messy, minor point but thought of letting you know.

Edit :please ignore, got fixed on it's own.. All fine