yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] bishal360:
Is Gapp include with this?

Include GAPP package?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] eemgee:
You don't need gapps and you won't get any updates, ever.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] AjayBabu200025:
Same plz fix the link ?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] KobaltKaria:
Is this port 32 bit or 64 bit?

Is the port mentioned above a 32 but os or a 64 bit os , the stock on Moto is 32 so was asking
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] eemgee:
All roms Oreo on are 64bit
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] KobaltKaria:
Is this port 32 bit or 64 bit?

No. The update of Moto g5 plus to Oreo is 32 bit. That why I want a 64 bit to improve performance.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] eemgee:
Ok then all roms that aren't stock.

YES it's 64bit.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] KobaltKaria:
Is this port 32 bit or 64 bit?

Thanks ??
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Luis Ibarra:
Any ROM above Android 7 is 64 bit.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] KobaltKaria:
Is this port 32 bit or 64 bit?

Moto g5 plus 7.0 32 bit. Updated to 8.1 still 32 bit. Welcome to bad Moto service.i don't know how to put pics here or I would share screenshot.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Naruto3999:
fingerprint sensor

My fingerprint sensor stopped working after i installed this rom. So i installed the arrow os android p but it is still not working please help me
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] SupaJ:
I think you need to go back to stock Nougat first. Then install your custom Oreo for your fingerprint to work again. Backup your Persist before going back to Nougat. You might need.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] kwattro76:
Yep, stock N.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jkaem:
hi what about battery is is working like on stock oreo of my moto g5 plus?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] dhinesh_cool:
Better than Oreo for me
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jkaem:
and i have 1 more question is there are ota updates avaliable on android p??
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] eemgee:
I can't count how many times I've said this.

This isn't a rom it's a port, and it won't get any updates.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] ph3b:
Flashing AceKernel-Potter-v2.02_eas_unified.zip twice caused Storage to quit opening in settings. I fixed it using the "old" AceKernel-Potter-v1.31_eas_P-treble.zip at download.martichou.me/Potter/Old/
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] alvin4frnds:
URL for kernel is responding with 404

Treble Kernel with sdcard and wifi (Download any version you like)

Hi, this URL for kernel i tried it is showing 404, any other way to download the kernet, i have also tried a video link, but the same is missing from there too
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] ph3b:
The working url is immediately above your post
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] max11357:
wifi and bluetooth

can't connect bluetooth while connect wifi at the same time :( it cut wifi immediately, make setting freeze and can't even shutdown need to hard restart ....

anybody can fix this problem?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Reyndert:
Fingerprint not working

My fingerprint doesn't work. i have flashed everything.

Does anyone have a solution for this?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] rocky281219:
Can I unroot and get back to stock OS?

I tried to unroot through this link : https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/how-to/solution-to-flash-stock-romfactory-t3691396

Which I regularly use for unrooting. But somehow this time it bricked the network part, I can not get sim networks in my phone. Please help this is urgent.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] srand9:
link is broken

Treble kernel link is broken. Please fix it.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Archangel:
I think this thread has been abandoned by the dev whoever they are,,,that link has been down for a long time.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Tadninja:
https: //download .martichou .me/Potter/

https: //download .martichou .me/Potter/Old/

were where I found it. You would have to take out the spaces

Though my advice isn't worth much considering I can't get this to work. Everytime my phone boots up it shuts back down into recovery mode. It also says the heat is to high even though it's at 20 degrees and on a cold rice bag. I haven't fixed the camera yet. The fingerprint scanner doesn't work. Also the LED is on and I can't fathom why.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Archangel:
All those things hapoened to me too so I gave up
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Tadninja:
Actually, I figured it out. I did the whole process without my SD card in and that fixed it. I also made sure to use the newer unified rom.

Though heat is still a problem.

I figured out the led is on when my phone is plugged in. Interesting feature, but does it have a toggle?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Kinteshi:
There's a unnoficial pixel experience treble image that I'm using for a month. Super stable. Hotspot doesn't work though.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] jrs007:
Please [MENTION=5293805]GtrCraft[/MENTION] update the tutorial for the PR2 October release. I'm running on my but I confess it was pretty complicated compared to PR1.

For those who want to install the new Android P PR2 (treble) October for Potter, I created a tutorial: https://telegra.ph/Android-Pie-Treble-for-Potter-10-06

It worked very well for me.

[IMG="Android P PR2 October 2018"]https://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4612522&stc=1&d=1538786635[/IMG]
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] bsrgsit:
Hey I tried to install pe unofficial but not able to boot. Is there any specific Procedure do we need to follow ?

---------- Post added at 08:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:16 AM ----------

How do you flash it ?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Kinteshi:
You'll need Potter vendor. Erase system, cache, dalvik and data then flash the vendor. Install the image. Flash P fixes by shivv, then AceKernel. This should do the trick.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] GtrCraft:
Actually, I think you better off with flashing a pie rom or gsi instead of this
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] jrs007:
This is last gsi Android P PR2 with patch oct 2018.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] karan3660:
Update process ended with error 7 while flashing post sgsi 1

Vendor already mounted.

Help
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] ashwinsw4:
Please help me I am facing battery drain issues with this ROM but I don't want to leave it. Please help
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] scamper07:
Hi,

Love the port. Thanks to the devs.

Been using this from more than a month now and everything I need works great

Is there any way to enable FM radio?

Any flashable zip?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] wsalzman:
Stuck on boot screen

How long does first boot typically take?

I've been on the boot screen for 20 minutes now. (the G with a progress bar below it... )

what did I miss?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Gemmik:
Always....with every user it happened, you need to format data. The typing "yes" option, make a backup cause your filles will be erased. Then install ROM from first step. :)
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Npmithapelli:
Does this work on moto g5 amzin variant?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] controot:
What occurred while wiping

[MENTION=5293805]GtrCraft[/MENTION]

I followed almost every step very carefully till this happened while whiping data/dalvik cache/cache/system.

Updating partition details...

...done

Unable to mount storage

Full SELinux Support is present.

Failed to wipe dalvik

Updating partition details...

...done

Unable to mount storage.

I tried couple of times but no progress. Its an Indian variant XT1686, currently operating 8.1.0. Any help would be so much appreciated.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] nony1234:
This error occurs when twrp is outdated as far as i know
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] karan3660:
Using latest available treble twrp

Still the same issue
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jassandhu:
Extract the file in which you are getting the error, go to META-INF\com\google\android\updater-script. Open it as a text editor, delete everything before ifelse statement. Compress the file again and you are good to go.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] tekkaman7:
Thanks for the work, It's important for me to know if moto actions can be disabled and enabled (I know flashlight is unstable) but I use my phone as a just dance controller and the chop-chop, and camera triggers, and is possible in the future this can be fixed?, or we have to wait until Lenorola posts the kernel code but I saw that's not possible anymore, because of their politics.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sinchan_nohara:
Why dont just use any pie ROMs everything works fine there. Its just a port why use port when we have custom ROMs
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] tekkaman7:
Which rom do you recomend

Are you using a P rom right now?, May you please post the links with the less bugs, thanks. I really wanna try it.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Luis Ibarra:
This is in my opinion the most stable Pie ROM so far:

https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/development/rom-pie-9-x-arrowos-9-x-t3838052

Please read the first post as this ROM uses the Oreo firmware.

PS: there's a search bar for a reason.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] tekkaman7:
Thanks I'm already testing it.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sinchan_nohara:
Agreed with other user arrow os is right now most stable rom. I am using opengapps pico with it for minimal google apps and battery life and performance both are great.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] controot:
Bugs made pie experience unbearable

[MENTION=5293805]GtrCraft[/MENTION], I installed Android Pie 9.0 by following your this thread. I was just happy to know that I am operating Pie and ignored all these bugs that I faced from day one:

-Moto Actions never open

-Flash light never turns on

-Always on/ touch display time won't show.

-WiFi goes automatically off when I pair phone to any device via bluetooth

and never turns on until I forcibly reboot phone by pressing and holding power button for 10-15 secs because it never turns off or restart normally without doing that. This never lets me keep wifi and bluetooth turned on at same time.

There are also some other issues but mentioned issues are the reason which made me want to go back to Oreo and stay functional in every safe way. So I request you to kindly provide me some guidance to install some Oreo 8.1 official/stable build on Moto G5 Plus (XT1686). Any help would be so much appreciated.

Thanks

Note: I did not backup EFS & Persist.﻿
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] riyan65:
Hi, can you put the game centre future (optimising other app's to play game smooth) as it will help so much for me to play games with smooth and high graphic.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] thedr34m13:
Why would you use an old treble Pie port when there's countless Pie roms which are much more stable? Everything works just fine, and they're actually built for our device. Try those instead.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] controot:
Im relieved to hear that. But honestly speaking I didn't know what treble, kernel etc are really are? I am still not so aware. As you said there are others. Can u mention suitable one for me.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Hirorails:
Is storage settings working for anyone else?

I'd like to use my external SD card
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Antonio's Wonka:
Works fine
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Shivvvv:
Make sure you are using each and every file mentioned in OP . If you use any old los-treble build you will end up like this, and this this is strictly for DP5, other developer previews of P has this problem of rebooting .
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] M1810:
Followed all the instructions using the twrp provided without errors.. it's stuck at the bootanimation for 20 minutes now...is it normal? it hasn't rebooted as the OP says since it's stuck at boot

i haven't flashed magisk since i don't want root, could that be causing it to be stuck?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] MrFoodMoon:
When I open the Mi Fit app to pair my Mi band 2 wifi turns off when I force close the app wifi works again. Don't know if this and issue with the ROM or just the app. Other than that ROM seems to working perfectly fine for me.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Dahenjo:
You keep editing your post, but did you unzip the P-DP5-sGSI-Aonly.zip file and use the P_DP5_A_only.img file inside for step 4, then when it asks choose "system image"? The instructions didn't say to do that but I figured we're supposed to and everything worked correctly. I even received an email from Google welcoming me to my new Pixel phone, heehee!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] M1810:
Sorry for the compulsive editing lol

i found that when i was in the middle of the process, i went back to pixel experience and unzipped it and did everything from 0 again and i'm still on the logo for 10 minutes now… how long did it took you for it to boot? guess my phone doesn't like the taste of P
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Sinister Drake:
I guess I'm the only one that is having volte issues with ace kernel. even when on an oreo rom I dont have volte with Ace kernel or with Extended Kernel. If I use stock rom kernel or Optimus Drunk volte works.

Everything else I've tried on this rom so far works, just no volte :(
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Dahenjo:
No, it didn't take that long on first boot, I'd guess closer to 5 minutes during which it rebooted once, but not to recovery just to system. Did you try wiping internal storage the second time? OP says to try that if not working, like maybe something in there is conflicting. Back up your data though if you do try that.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] M1810:
i will try.. sadly i don't have any sd card to keep the files to flash so if i wipe internal storage i can't do anything lol
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mrlolli:
Upon initial boot, anything involving signing in to google would lock up and "finishing system update" was stuck at around 10%. I couldn't even get to the google service apk file linked in the OP because the file app kept crashing. What I did was download the google service apk in the OP on my PC, then rename it to gplay.apk (I know that's not what it is, but it's way easier than typing that long original filename), then typed "adb install gplay.apk" in terminal on my laptop with my phone plugged into the laptop. Once that was successful, everything smoothed right out and took off. We are so lucky to have this talented group of devs working to bring us such goodness to our phone. My hat is off to you all, thanks a bunch! :)
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Dahenjo:
Maybe go back to a regular ROM if you can connect to a computer, then manually delete contents in internal storage, then put your P install files on there and try it. Depends on how much you want to bother doing to maybe get P working.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] M1810:
yeah i found an SD card and will try doing so.. will update if i get this working in 30 minutes

edit: silly me i remembered i had substratum + magisk in 8.1 and didn't delete internal storage, maybe it will boot now

update: Still stuck at bootanimation, i really don't know why it doesn't want to work, not even rebooting… flashed all the files and stuff.. only thing i could think of is the data encryption where i need to put my password, but i believe it should work anyway.. back to 8.1 it is, thanks anyway for all the effort done for this amazing port, hope i can try it soon
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Dahenjo:
Ditto on that! I have everything in my usual setup working - Lawnchair launcher, Viper4Android + Youtube Vanced Magisk modules, passes safetynet too, and all my other apps running with no problems under P. Also flashed that P-Navbar-Disabler-Potter.zip to get rid of the navbar so it's just the FP gestures. Camera is working but didn't check every last setting, shake-shake flashlight and twist for camera moto actions working too. This is great and many thanks to all involved!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] aayushgr8:
I'm getting error 7 while flashing the post sGSI images, can someone help?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Archangel:
Yeah I have had this happen like 5 times now, Also get some weird notice when it reboots that it is running hot and some apps will not work LOL?? Starting over from scratch and redo flash everything.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sinchan_nohara:
Weird Haven't faced this issue everything is very stable for me. Did you use lineage os by anshuman as mentioned in guide??
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Archangel:
I may have installed the wrong GMS so I looked back in the OP and installed that one and all seems to be fine now. Has anyone been able to apply a Substratum theme in this yet?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Shivvvv:
Substratum 998 .

Ethereal and Linear Theme supports P for now.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sinchan_nohara:
Yes i see screenshot in telegram group people are using substratum on p.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sinchan_nohara:
Trable roms are not for any specific device any device can use it as long as they have treble support. But as its not made specific to each device they can have different bugs on different device.

But we have stable custom pie roms now. So i dont think there is any need to use treble GSI.

just flash custom roms as you did in past flash rom and gapps and you are done.

Try arrow rom if you haven't try and pie roms yet.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] karan3660:
there is no ifalse statement in the file
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Hexile:
Great port, but not maintained anymore.

You can download other Pie ROMs such as Pixel Experience, Arrow OS and others.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jassandhu:
If you found the directory I specified, there should be the line in talking about. Just double check it. It's not too far from the starting lines. Just use the find option and search for "ifelse".
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] karan3660:
Well i recheck still didnt found

Anyways found the solution for it

Tjnxx
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] karan3660:
I cant find the link for wifi bt fix zip file nd some other files too

Whete can i find them?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] rushikeshkulat@gmail.com:
I'm currently on trable rom and need to flash another custom rom, do I need to flash stock kernel first or I can directly flash any rom I want?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sinchan_nohara:
You can directly flash custom roms but most of the custom roms are using oreo base. So for fingerprint and nfc to work flash twrp flashable stock rom and then flash custom roms
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] rushikeshkulat@gmail.com:
Can you please give link for flashable stock for Moto G5 plus?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sinchan_nohara:
Here is link of thread

https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/development/oreo-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Akshatk:
The need is the smart text selection feature. When you are on recents , you can select text and images from the apps without leaving the recents screen. I think this is a really awesome feature.

How do I get this on normal pie roms?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] karandeep718:
I don't have the option to add fingerprint to unlock the device, chop for flash doesn't work it just vibrates the device and nav bottom gestures don't work.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] jrs007:
Try flash this - FP_firmware_NP25.137-33(for treble )
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] karandeep718:
I tried flashing the pie experience rom and everything works fine, thanks BTW.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] itoikenza:
is it possible to make fingerprint unlock able to unlock from coldboot? also any smartlock option such as location based unlock and keep unlocked while on you? work without required pin/pass/pattern first?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] jrs007:
This is because the PE fingerprint is based on the Stock Oreo and the Treble is on the Nougat. So if you ever want to re-use treble you'll have to flash FP_firmware_NP25.137-33 (for treble)

---------- Post added at 03:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:26 AM ----------

Sorry for the delay but after so much time doing tests I was able to recreate a tutorial for anyone who wants to use "Android Pie Treble PR2" (october patch). I repaired the broken links and simplified the tutorial.

Here it is:

https://telegra.ph/Android-Pie-Treble-for-Potter-10-06

If helped, click "Thanks" :highfive:
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Salim Anser:
I'm unable to download VoLTE, Camera, FP, Lag Fix zip file through the given in this thread. So please if anyone have a backup of that file please attach it so that I could install pie. Please I request you all.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] ForticlaY:
The links in 3 (Treble kernel etc), 5 (VoLTE, Camera etc) and 6 (Treble TWRP) downloads are not working. :(
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] onedayofeverclear:
Treble Kernel by Martichou is download is not found...any work arounds??? Alternatives???
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Regin Regin:
Enaku vara villai version
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] NeoPreacher:
english only. rules.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Kasgi:
Hello Sir Please my mobile not work Gyroscope please sir I am Use Gyroscope please..
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] stark1296:
Flash any pie ROM instead of this thing now.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] micaht:
Would this also work for Moto G5 S Plus?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] vinyasns:
Yes
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] 00sachin00:
Do any pie rom supports gyroscope for potter?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] stark1296:
Revenge and some others too.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] 00sachin00:
Can you please mention some of the roms. It'll be very helpful. Thanks.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] virajsherlekar:
Revenge OS. One of the some...
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] stark1296:
You may have to ask on telegram group. I don't play PUBG, so have no idea about gyro support. Revenge is the only name I currently recall.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] leonel_7:
Could someone pass me the file "Q gsi verdor potter"