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[Android Apps and Games] fuzemaster:
Having trouble initiating a FairEmail download & installation via F-droid...toast errors "Download failed" & "requested file not found". Any insight?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I guess the proprietary domain email has not message size limit.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Try refreshing the app lists by pulling down.
[Android Apps and Games] neodin:
Thank you for the new feature.! This will be very useful. :good: I will check it out as soon as I can update on Google Play. The size of the mail to be sended is now always displayed in the send dialog right?

Actually I have (also) the problem on the recepients side: I know that contact ABC are only able to get mail with a size smaller than 10 MB. So this will help me a lot to adjust the size of my mails before sending them.

Moving messages between accounts is indeed a very convenient feature also for me. I already use it a lot. But it also okay for me to use it a lot only from the message list. :)

Oh, I didn't know that choice until you pointed me there. I use the German interface and the bottom of the send dialog looks like this on my phone:

[IMG="German"]https://i.ibb.co/s6ZWtct/1.jpg[/IMG]

I never got the idea that there is something hidden below "Abbrechen". When I switch to Englisch all the choices are aligned next to each other:

[IMG="English"]https://i.ibb.co/qWdWD8b/2.jpg[/IMG]

I just sent you the information.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=3387288]neodin[/MENTION] the German send dialog looks odd, but I can't change this because it is Android that shows the dialog like this in the end.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
As with other dialogs, Android would have to somehow indicate that it goes further. But you said that you have no influence on the dialog display - and if Android just can't do it better ...
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
The action list is scrollable and you'll find below the " Send now" action in German.

[MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] maybe could you shorten one of the three texts in order to make them fit on a single line. I had the same problem in French and I solved it this way.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I don't know how - perhaps other german translaters have ideas to shorten the texts in german.

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What are your three words in french?
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
I put:

Send now: "Env. maint." short form of "Envoyer maintenant"

Cancel: "Annuler"

Send: "Envoyer"

Pay attention, the letters are shown in uppercase!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Maybe just "now" is good enough? It is a send dialog after all.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
So I tried as translation only the one word 'Sofort' ... we will see ...
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Accounts-to-inbox button

It still looks the same size to me.

However, I'm finding it easier not to miss it, so perhaps you've added some padding?

Or maybe my index finger is simply becoming more fiendishly accurate... :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
Hey Marcel, always adding cool new features., thank you! Just FYI, I think some providers (Outlook, Hotmail and the likes for instance) have a limit on a per file basis (10MB?) and also a much higher limit on total size. Maybe that could be taken into account when adding single files? Other than that, it's pretty nice. I liked your idea of a green/orange/red progress bar above the attachment group, maybe that could be added?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The inbox icon button of accounts is now 36dp instead of 24dp:

The icon size is the same, but the padding is larger, so tapping on it is easier:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/app/src/main/res/layout/item_account.xml#L107
[Android Apps and Games] upD8R:
Hi there,

Fairmail motivated myself to move from a local mail storage in Outlook/POP3 to online storage in an IMAP server.

Now I'm using very often the move feature to put maps in different IMAP folders.

What I miss (or didn't find yet) is some kind of favourite folders.

I'm also using Nine for my company mails and here this features is quite handy.

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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can long press a folder in the folder list to add it to the navigation menu, which is similar to favorite folders, without needing to go to a special place to see the favorite folders ;)

Note that you can color code folders to let them stand out more.
[Android Apps and Games] upD8R:
I see but the favourites here are just favourites for "move". Maybe that wasn't clear.

If I add a folder to the navigation pane I can't use it to quickly move a message to it, can i?

The picture above shows the move dialogue only.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I see. If you tap the search field of the move dialog, the recently used folder will be shown. Is that a solution for you?
[Android Apps and Games] upD8R:
This is what I use, I like that feature. Maybe we can define up to 3 folders, which are always on top of this list?

Not a problem at all, though. I can handle it [emoji6]

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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Since the list is hierarchical, this is not really possible without losing context.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1235 1.1236

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If you tell me how I can get the file limit, I would happily add this, but I don't think this is possible.

The idea of a green/orange/red progress bar was nice, but it would be unnecessarily take screen space while only occasionally needed.
[Android Apps and Games] v5kttEG:
Fair enough. FWIW, am paying user, found a lot to like in app.
[Android Apps and Games] folusmile:
I am sure people will still come to fairemail, so sure about that. What I see with xprivacylua is u need to be rooted and use it with xposed if not million people will use it and most people doesn't want to root phone thisdays.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
I think you are mistaken. XPrivacyLua depends on Xposed.

So first of all, many people do not use Xposed. As it causes all kinds of issues. As seen in this thread, too.

Which is why counts are down.

Also, Xposed has a bad rep. Many people believe it causes more security leaks and bugs and issues than actually protect privacy. And most custom roms do not support it and warn users to be wary or like yourself, "do not report issues due to Xposed, not supported", (as seen on your post above). So, obviously Xposed gets even worse rep.

Whereas. NetGuard has, "Installs 1,000,000+", according to google.

I believe FairEmail will be closer to this mark, than privacy. As nothing ever came close to PDroid. Not sure anything exists close to PDroid level, without bugs and all. Google has made it infinately difficult as OS is becoming more and more prohibitive.

Next, App is still in testing phase, so many people would rather wait for stable to even try app. Not many people willing to apply to beta testing.

So count will increase.

But, will also be choosing email client to suit their needs. So more people will try your app, but not necessarily switch to it permanently due to certain email habits which some apps provide.
[Android Apps and Games] BunnyWarrior:
Sad to hear this. I started right from the beginning with 0.1 alpha and I fell in love with your idea even before the initial release came out. I donated right after you announced the possibility without knowing what pro features will come. Your mail app offers everything I need and I don´t want to use any other anymore. So if the project is forced to die an early death I thank you for your hard work and the masterpiece of mail app you left behind. Will use it until security bugs in the future will force me to change. IF development comes to an end. So far - thank you very much. The world is not ready for you, your effort and FLOSS in general.
[Android Apps and Games] folusmile:
The project stil continues read few page back. U are missing something...Fairemail is coming to the world gradually nothing like death for fairemail for now
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I use FairEmail myself, so it will be maintained and supported, no worries.

Implementing new features will depend on the number of people using FairEmail. For now it will be bug fixing only.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 0.72

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases
[Android Apps and Games] glops:
Hello,

[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

it's not a bug but just an option complement that already exists

for the transfer an e-mail with an attachment there are 2 cases:

1- e-mail transfer but the attachment is not download

we receive a message

it's perfect :good:

2- for the e-mail tranfer with the attachment this time download

if possible to have a message as in the first case

and have the choice to transfer or not to transfer the attachment

Thank you very much for your great work and your genius

sorry for my bad english (google translation)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Just delete the attachments you don't want to send.
[Android Apps and Games] glops:
thank you for your quick reply

that's what I do ;)

except that sometimes I forget to delete the attachment :(

that's why the reminder with a message would be perfect

thanks again
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is really a "I can't make everybody happy" because others explicitly don't want this.
[Android Apps and Games] glops:
OK I understand thank you
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can request info about this here:

FairEmail: https://contact.faircode.eu/?product=fairemailstandalone

NetGuard: https://contact.faircode.eu/?product=netguardstandalone
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
To simply things again, I am going to remove the following:

- notifications for individual messages, including the mark as read and trash actions

- long press, mark as read

Edit: swipe to archive or trash will be changed to move all.

Why?

Notifications: drill down the summary notification, drill down the message notification, tap action is more taps than tap notification, tap message or swipe.

Long press: tapping on the message marks the message read too and long press takes more time.

IMO this is all feature creep caused by being used to another email client.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
If I well understand, you remove the delete action from notification ?!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, because tapping on the notification and swiping to delete is less taps.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
:eek: :crying:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
IMHO the logical thing to do because there is no benefit.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
But swipping to delete is done in the app. So we have to open the app and then delete the message. (?)

I don't understand why you want to change a thing that works and seems to be good for everyone.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What happened to your agreement to keeping it simple?

Edit: now you have to expand two notifications and I don't see why opening the app would be a problem.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

Just thinking aloud. Don't know if it is a good or bad idea

As you are aware, I was trying to automate reading aloud of a mail from a particular sender based on rule.

App rule matching and intent logging (added recently) is excellent! No problems at all. Thank you

Second part is sending to an automating app which in turn "wakes up" to speak the subject and content of mail. This is proving to be the weak link and the third part (app to read out aloud) - there is only one of it's kind on the Play Store (permitting automation), so that's not nice (they can read aloud mails and maybe do dirty stuff).

That set me wondering if it could be a part of FairEmail, all it needs (with my very limited knowledge) is waking up the TTS based on the intent generated.

I never felt the need for this, till I was trying to solve somebody's problem but here are some use cases :

1. You are driving, using for phone for navigating and would like to know when that sender's mail arrives and read it aloud.

2. You are doing something else with the phone in near vicinity and don't need to be bothered until that mail arrives.

Maybe more...

I am not looking at bells and whistles like reading out through BT etc but just basic read aloud you can hear

IDK of this finds favor with you or other users, just airing a thought and it could maybe be add extra value (rules are pro anyway)

Your thoughts?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Something like this?

https://lifehacker.com/speakme-for-android-speaks-notifications-aloud-lets-yo-5959701

Note that I cannot vouch for this app.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
There are many. I have done a pretty good survey

1. Most importantly, they read ALL mails and messages. Maybe some need it, some don't. I am looking at "rule based" reading out aloud. Doesn't take more than 30 seconds to make a rule.

2. They all have access to read out and possibly "sniff" - who knows? I couldn't find a single Open Source app that does this and is still maintained (I would be happy, if someone points out one).

3. They don't support automation except Out Loud.

3a) You need an extra automation app to do this

(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hillman.out_loud)

4. They are paid or free but limited to single account (3 above)

5. The one's I checked DO NOT have TTS except in system language

6. EDIT : Automation even with Tasker had misses

Bottom line use case is "rule based" simply reading out mails from selected senders

Edit2: The rule can be readily configured to read out all mails too! [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

(I know I am laboring hard to sell the case:silly:)
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
Regarding the mail max size, I thought about it a while and came to one conclusion. Even if this is a very nice feature to get the own limit shown, if I understand correctly, it is only from the own server.

In mail we use server to server communication. So if my server has a limit of 50mb and the receiving server has a limit of 25mb... It is not of so much use as expected in first place. What do you think regarding this?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
I don't know where to get that information automatically, sorry. I just thought I'd share that with you, but if nothing can be done it's fine.

Another aesthetic "bug" I've noticed is that the snackbar sometimes overlaps the bottomnavigationview (see screenshot when verifying signature). The bottom margin behavior looks ok though, no idea why that happens...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=6285129]beeshyams[/MENTION] you'll need to use the automation intent or some app
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If the receiving server doesn't accept a message for whatever reason (size, spam, rainy day), you'll in most cases receive a DSN (delivery status notification). We'll just have to live with this because this is how email works.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There are so many bugs in Android!
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
I know that and I have been doing that but was trying hard to convince you to add into the app and obviously lost:fingers-crossed:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In fact, I have looked into, but I don't want to support this feature because it will inevitable result in questions like "Why is my message in <some language> spoken in <some other language>?" and "How can I install <language>?" or more annoying "IT DOES NOT WORK BAD APP - 1 STAR".
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Respect your choice

Is TTS ** only** in System language a viable feature?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
No problem?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Here are mails (an all other notification) spoken loud from the app 'voice notifier' - and you can very simpel define words where it should not speak if these word(s) are found.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks. This only reads the notifications. Not the text of mail which is what I am after

[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] : You get enough s***ty reviews anyway and I don't want to add to the mess. I will go ahead with the automation route. No problem :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=6285129]beeshyams[/MENTION] please contact me for a test version ;)
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Yes Sir! Mailed you ??
[Android Apps and Games] The_Two:
I have realized something like that with Tasker. But it reads the title and the body of the Notification. I use it only for reading out loud SMS, WhatsApp, Signal when I am connected to my car audio sytem and not for Emails. But if the message text would be in the notification this would work.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Perfect. It reads out the notification fine

Thanks a ton Marcel for this and I think it's for for release in next addition

Text, unfortunately cannot be read because of the way rules are processed as you explained but I am greedy in hoping you will find a way

Thanks a ton Marcel????????

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If you read the subsequent posts, there is an app that does read out the complete email text using Tasker but it's a bit iffy and I was thinking it could be possible from within FairEmail.

Marcel has added in the test version, the notification but and hopefully would find a place in the next release
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
Just FYI: I looked at faircode.eu to have a look how much your donation version is. (for a friend)

What I found was a left sided simple page, but no link to donation version/ donating.

On mid term perspective, I could offer some Spa page. (when my own project finally matures). This, just said to offer some least support within my range. (as 'donation' without anything I would want for it)

The main thing I want to express, is: please put the donation link more prominent, if there is some. ;).

As maybe known I am someone trying to avoid Google like the devil the holy water (****ed up analogy, better: like an angel, avoiding the bad and evil), so I really appreciate and prefer donations without Google profiting from it)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The donation page is accessible from the app after setting up an account only. This is to prevent people from donating for something that is not working. Note that a PayPal chargeback costs me 16 euros ...
[Android Apps and Games] cogano:
Okay, I can see in the FairEmail LOG that in situations when I cannot get the attachments downloaded, there are "my.domain.org backoff XXX" messages continueously growing from a few seconds up to minutes, and before these there is always a "connection failure" message (and about nine messages reading ".... notice: Logging out").

As per FAQ, I understand this backoff is done on purpose.

I will try to test further by watching also on my dovecot mail server why these connection failures happen even on LAN.

BTW, how do I share/copy multiple lines of the LOG? Even if I choose "Select all", only a single line is selected (without the time prefix). No change in behaviour if I turn the Auto Scroll on/off. MIUI 11 Global ROM on Android 10.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
"Connection failure", please see this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq23

The log can be too large to copy.

Instead, long press 'Support' in the navigation menu and check the attachment log.txt.
[Android Apps and Games] cogano:
The default "mail_max_userip_connections" for dovecot is 10. I have increased it to 20 now, let's see.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A text to speech filter action will be available in the next version, probably tomorrow.

The voice will say "New message. From <sender name>. Subject <subject text>." in the language of the message, if recognized (requires Android 10), or in the primary language of the device.

Since rules are being executed before the message text is downloaded, it is not possible to speak the message text. I don't think you want to have read a lengthy message text anyway.
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Nice :good:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1237

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds a text-to-speech filter rule action.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks a lot

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Thanks a lot

I noticed you added language options - does this mean notifications can be announced in other than system language?

FAQ may need to clarify this too
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please see here:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=82985135&postcount=15035
[Android Apps and Games] neodin:
Hello Marcel,

maybe I found something:

When I receive eu.faircode.email.AUTOMATION "rule" is provided but it seems always to be empty.

And a request:

Is it possible to also get the sent date and time (with seconds) and the received date and time (with seconds) through eu.faircode.email.AUTOMATION?

Best regards

neodin
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The email address of the sender (from) and subject will be in the extras of the intent:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/b...n/java/eu/faircode/email/EntityRule.java#L474

I will add the received time in a next release, but the frustration of a series of 1 and 2 star Play store ratings need to wear off first :(
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am declaring this project as finished, which means that there will probably no more new features like the recently added text-to-speech feature.

You can keep expecting maintenance and support, which means that questions will be answered, that problems will be fixed and that small things will improved and added.

Note that I am a heavy user of FairEmail myself too.

The continuous stream of bad Play store ratings make me rather unhappy, forcing me to take more distance.
[Android Apps and Games] neodin:
This must be really disappointing. Even if they had some issues, I never understood why people vote so low for something that is free, free of advertising, free of tracking, well supported and in your case even open source.

Thank you for still considering my request.

Actually sender (from) and subject work fine. But (if I got your code right) "rule" seems to be null:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/b...n/java/eu/faircode/email/EntityRule.java#L479

(Also in my logcat.txt when the rule is logged I get "Rule=null"...)
[Android Apps and Games] 0adrian0:
Quite an interesting project. I'll give it a try.

Thank you ;)
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Marcel,

In France, you've got a 4.7 rating which is quite excellent.

Don't pay attention to these bad comments, they come from bad small minds. They must not hurt you.

Keep on the good work!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't see how the rule name can be null, but I will double check later.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The problem is that the average rating is going down about each and every day. There are just too many small minded people.
[Android Apps and Games] oktalv:
You also must take in mind the competition and paid bad reviews. It just means you make a good product. When i see an app with 4.7,8,9 rating either there are paid good reviews or it is just good looking, no features, over easy to use mail app. No privacy, no nothing.
[Android Apps and Games] wirdSchoon:
Notification LED

Hello Marcel,

The Notification LED on my Xperia XZ1 compact (LOS 17.1 with Magisk for root privileges) only lights up sometimes when a mail arrives. With other apps like Threema (without Playstore) or the calendar the LED works fine.

Can you please check if FairEmail always uses the LED?

.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
An app does not have control over the notification light on your Android version, please see this FAQ for more information:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq21
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Sorry to hear that and pray that you reverse this in due course.

Prayers and best wishes