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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Previous/next would be quite useless if you first need to scroll to the buttons, so this is no solution. The buttons should always be visible in the same place.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just release

beta

version 1.100

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version will be available in the Play store after Google's approval.

This version fixes all problems with the previous/next navigation.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
Your solution blocks users from saving opening attachments.

So, scrolling to the buttons seems, to me, a minor inconvenience compared to not being able to open/save an attachment.

For me it is useless to have Previous/Next if it comes as floating button and appearing all the time and on top of that blocks vital data.

Also,

You do not need to scroll, you can also hide message and it will show after the message:

EDIT:

Did not see previous message.

Was busy replying.

Keeping it here, for reference

---------- Post added at 08:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 AM ----------

I appreciate you always trying to find the right compromise.

And always looking for a solution. Also jumping with solutions at rapid development space so that users can test and give feedback.

I hope you are not too haste or acting in anger or frustrations, especially when adding and removing features (not the first time in development iteration).

I do believe all users want a solution that works.

Sometimes finding that solution can be frustrating.

And also some need compromise. You cannot always have it all.

So you have to look at what is important and what annoyances(like scrolling in this case) can be tolerated.

Wishh you the best
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is not frustration that made me decide to remove previous/next navigation, but the inability to find a proper solution. Besides that I would not use this feature myself and there were still technical problems which are difficult to solve.
[Android Apps and Games] willy_666:
Just a thought: what about a double tap on the left or right side for previous/next navigation?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
I just check on a pure PlayStore version on my Chromebook and I can reproduce it. In a new empty folder, move 2 messages with the same date and 2 others with the same date but different from the first 2.

At that point you should have 2 date headers. (Use group by date and sort on time). Select the third message, the first of the 2 oldest messages that has a header. Change it's importance to high. That will reorder the list, moving that message at the top with his own header, but then the 3 remaining will have the same header, which is incorrect for the last one.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
@Dark_Eyes_ Can you please check if this works for you too?

Invalidate item decorators · M66B/FairEmail@61c004d

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - Invalidate item decorators · M66B/FairEmail@61c004d

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[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
Indeed, it's fixed! Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Since it happened too many times to me that I answered a message while a new message arrived making the answer less useful, the next version will show a bottom notification when a new message arrives in the same thread as you are composing a message for. Tapping on 'Show' will open the conversation, so you can quickly check the new message.
[Android Apps and Games] greta123456:
Completely agree. Average user from play store need nice looking app with as little as possible configuration. Just a thought, maybe doing like 3-4 levels of privacy, like: nice looking less secure, good privacy, super privacy - with default first one ? ...
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
I'd just like to throw in that while I'd put my hand up to being (relatively) a 'power user' or 'technically knowledgeable user', I wouldn't label myself as a 'privacy focused' user as such. An ability to set an email client not to show images in emails by default, but easily set emails from addresses I choose to open showing images is certainly one of my requirements for an email client, but is hardly my only requirement. I'd be wary of strightjacketing thinking, development and marketing with over-restrictive labels.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Nice feature!

But then, will you go back to the answer you were composing with the back key?
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
That's an interesting evolution of this general idea too.

Because it may also be another way to automatically, passively, and 'in app' educate users about their choice (if that remains a goal for FairEmail) while also hopefully resulting in less support questions too:

eg; when chosing the 'Nice Looking / Less Secure' option there could be a message detailing (in simple terms) the privacy implications of the choice, and maybe a link to further information that can be clicked if necessary.

I realise that the phrase "Disabling this option might be harmful to your privacy" already exists in FairEmails settings, but I'm not sure the average user even gets that far.

In any case it's more food for thought as Marcel grapples with how best to move forward, both for the benefit of users, as well as the benefit of his sanity :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In the conversation you can tap on the draft to continue editing it.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1764 1.1765 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
@M66B A small improvement idea. I don't know if it's a good idea or even feasible, but maybe the snackbar in the composer could show only when the Android heads up notification doesn't show? Otherwise you get 2 simultaneous notifications for the same message.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is no way to check if there is a heads up notification, unfortunately.
[Android Apps and Games] mobification:
removed. tnx for the feedback
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
"FairEmail comes with one of the most unsettling permissions requests since it asks to read your text messages".

FairEmail definitely doesn't ask for this permission:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq1
[Android Apps and Games] mobification:
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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Normally, I am for second chances, but this is completely incorrect and made up:

There just isn't something like this.

This ain't very good advertisement for your website.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
And I thought I was using some different app after being a FairEmail user since Dec 2018🤣
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You are using the real thing!

Unfortunately, the domain name faircode.net is already taken, else I had reserved it to prevent misusage.
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
Granted side effects from medication for my disability have messed badly with my memory, but I don't remember ANY of the first time use stuff in that review when I downloaded FairEmail from Google Play Store at all. Detecting my accounts and choosing which to use for my FairEmail account? Giving phone numbers? I don't recall any of that business at all. And what's this 'It is not an email platform meant to replace Gmail. Instead, it is an extension of your Google account that is designed to make your email more private'? I got it because it is an email client to 'replace' GMail ... well actually to replace another email client because I'd never ever use GMail in the first place so need to replace it. It works as a client for a GMail email account, but that's not what that part said. All in all I felt I was reading a review of a completely different app.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
This is the weirdest review I have read in my life. Maybe the writer tested several apps at the same time and got confused.

Seems like I've found another site that I don't need to bookmark.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
fairemail.net is registered by me now.

I have even plans for it. More on this later.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I

I hope you'll not get that server running that @mobification was talking about 😄

He deleted the 'review' in the mean time already.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The domain name was registered mostly to prevent misusage. Maybe I will use it to provide a service like temporary email addresses. I am not sure yet.

My apps will be given in license to a registered company called "FairCode bv" which is currently being established and which will be owned by myself. The main reason is to shield myself from claims. All my apps have proper disclaimers, but I have had contact with enough unfriendly people to know that might not be enough to prevent trouble.

So far, I have refrained from offering services, but with a company this would be more feasible. I am not sure if I want to do this though.

Some of the things suggested over the course of the time are temporary email addresses, sharing messages via a link, and confirming receival of messages with a link.

What would be useful to you?
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Confirming msg receipt by a link. So many times I wish I knew if the recipient of my emails had received it. Even though I ask for delivery/ read receipts I rarely get one. I understand that privacy is a concern here but it would be nice to know if someone got/ read your email.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Why would someone click a link as a read receipt when they can send the built-in read receipt with the same effort (usually just one click)?
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
As an app that tries to remove tracker pixels, it's quite contradictory to add one yourself IMO. The only way for confirming the receipt ethically is IMO if you put in a clickable link with a clear text such as "confirm that you received this message by clicking on this link" while it is the viewers choice to click the link or not (thus, an opt-in for the recipient). Then again, @fraschi51 is right, the current receipt confirmation should be sufficient here. No need to add an own solution when a standard solution is already implemented.

Temporary email addresses sound nice, though. Especially so if one can use them to register to services without giving away their own email address, similarly to how Apple does it. For this to work (especially when one forgot the account password and needs to receive an email), the addresses would need to be valid for as long as the user doesn't remove it, but you can utilize aliasing to not create dozens of real email accounts per user.
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Because many people use their webmail that very often doesn't handle receive/read receipt.

And I think that this action must be automatically done when the user opens the mail without asking him to manually click on any link/button.

So I think too that it would be a great thing.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
However, such an automatism would not go well with the goal of FE, insofar it should already be a conscious click by the recipient.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Instant messengers like WhatsApp and Telegram have automatic read receipts and give the user the option to block them ( both ways ie those who can't give out read receipts can't see them either). Also plain text msgs ( sms) have automatic delivery reports with no read receipts. Why not email?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Automatic DSN could be done, but after that you still don't know if a mail has reached the recipient, let alone if he has opened or read or understood it.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That's a valid remark, but delivery/read receipts do not work or are being blocked more often than not.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It wouldn't be a tracking pixel of course!
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
One way for non-deniable automatic delivery reports probably is to have an own email service where you give each sent message a unique id with a timestamp and a server side script that periodically looks up if that one message was received by the recipient server with a 250 OK, until a permanent status code is returned. If so, you can mark the message as delivered (not "read", Not as "delivered in the inbox - not spam", just "delivered to the recipient account")

This however would require you to run your own full fledged email service and I'm not sure whether you want that. But if so, don't offer the email service to free users IMO, or require a monthly plan - even if as low as 1€/month - to avoid too many people taking your time with a lot of problems and wishes. Just my two cents on the topic.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Services like this can't and shouldn't be free, if only to prevent misusage.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
This would also require Marcel to stop sleeping😄. He is already at it 7 days a week with only a few hours of closed eye!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I sleep every night 8-9 hours like a baby, so no worries about me.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
My current servers also already give me a DSN on request - so what would I have gained from that?
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
True that, though not all email services support DSN, many do. So probably too much trouble with no additional gain. You are right on that. A read notification on the other hand requires the explicit opt-in of the reader or dirty tricks like a tracking pixel.

Maybe neither of those are needed in the end, I don't know. Though adding a clickable link with a clear descriptive text is still possible as a way to work around the automatic blocking of read receipts. For as long as it's done with an id which does not let Marcel (the service provider) know the recipient's personal data (name, email address, etc.) that would remain privacy conscious and feasible.

IMHO, adding temporary addresses sounds more of a greater feature than the delivery/read receipts, though.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Privacy will be respected at all times.

So, there would be a clear description like "Please click this link to confirm you read the message" and the link wouldn't carry any privacy sensitive information.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
That would be great! For me personally just a DSN would also be fine. Just to know that the email got to the recipient.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Since I have never yet experienced that the integrated read receipts were actually blocked and did not reach me, such an additional link would not do me any good - but perhaps others.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
A DSN does not tell you that the mail has arrived in the recipient's inbox, but only that it has been delivered to the recipient's server.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That depends on the type. There are delivery and read receipts.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Yes ! That is what I meant. Thanks for the correction! Server is good enough
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
A DSN is - as the name suggests - just a transmission confirmation - and NOT a MDN (Read Receeipt).
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
I didn't mean just the link itself carrying any details, but also no privacy sensitive information should be stored on any database.

For instance, a database may carry a message ID (just to identify the message without knowing any further details about it) and the status (clicked, not clicked), but the client should never send any recipient address or name to any other server than the sender's mail server, not even to you regardless of whether you store that information or not.

But since you said privacy will be respected at all times, I guess that's also what you already had in mind.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That's indeed correct.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
My idea was to let the app generate, store and check a neutral and unique ID.

To prevent misuse, you will probably need to create an account first though.
[Android Apps and Games] avalx:
Temp email adresses sounds good for me. I would like to see this implemented.

Thanks again for your great app(s) and you efforts.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I have never asked for delivery or read receipts and have never responded to them (not even from my family or lawyer) because I feel they are intrusive to my privacy rights. If I don't want to read your email I won't, and you don't have to know about that.

The wish for delivery receipts I can understand, but it should be an integral part of the email protocol and not something that some users use and others don't. I do use them for messaging though, but that is because I use messaging apps as occasional conversation tools and never for business.

About temporary email addresses, I have never used them mainly because I don't trust their providers. I do trust Marcel, but still I would hesitate to use them from him. GDPR forbids organisations to store information that they don't need for their business, so when they ask for an email address and I might as well provide a temporary one, what would they need them for in the first place? For one time purchases maybe, but then they cannot reach me in case of delivery problems. That's why I avoid registering at sites where providing an email address is required while I don't see the need for it.

So I don't think I would use either of these services myself.

*Edit: corrected 'read receipts' to 'delivery receipts' in the second paragraph.
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
It depends on what "temporary address" means. If it is indeed just to receive one single email, you may be right. If it is one you can use for 30 or 90 days, it could still make sense for services you only want to use once.

A more useful service would be something like Apple's "Hide my Email" (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210425) with unique aliases for each service so you won't have to share your real email address but still remain reachable until you delete that alias / email address. Also useful if the service you registered for had a database leak. Passwords are stored hashed (at least should be), but mail addresses might be stored more accessible after all.

So, that one would increase both privacy and security while you remain reachable through that address.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There should be a basic web page for most people here now:

https://fairemail.net/

Edit: @mobification maybe the "review" will result in something nice, who knows.
[Android Apps and Games] harrisc:
When in Portrait format I just have the message list or reading an email. When I turn the phone to landscape I also get the menu/folders list. I want to keep just the emails and call up the menu/folder list on demand.

I looked through the set-up but I can't find the option to stop the extra panel in landscape mode.

How do I do this?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Try the pin icon at the top of the navigation menu (left side menu). Note that there needs to be enough screen space for multiple columns, else the navigation menu will be iconified.
[Android Apps and Games] harrisc:
Thanks; so easy.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
BTW: Can it be that in the settings under Display / Landscape 'use two columns' no longer works? Also in Portraits-Mode?

Actually, this option should now have the same consequences as pinning the navigation menu, right?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It works fine for me. It isn't the same as the pinned navigation menu. If you tap on an message/conversation, it will be opened in an extra column.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Ah, o.k., so it works indeed fine. THX
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
An XDA member just left a two star rating, which means that there won't be special privileges for XDA members anymore, except for people I know.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
I don't know man. Weird world.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Hi, an email(address) has found accidentally it's way into the spam folder. How can I remove the email address from the spam list?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Just move the message back to the inbox.

Please read this FAQ too:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq92

All spam options in FairEmail should be seen as additional to the spam filter of the email server. They wouldn't be necessary if all providers offered proper working spam filters.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
@M66B a suggestion that came to me while exploring Android 12 features. Enabling scrolling screenshot, if it adds value (it is enabled only for some apps like WhatsApp etc and not for browsers)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It's on my to do list, low priority, to look into this.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not a Windows user, but maybe somebody else can try if FairEmail works on the Android subsystem of Windows:

How to sideload Android apps on Windows 11

Not sure how to install Android apps on Windows 11 without Amazon Appstore? Here's how to sideload apps on Windows Subsystem for Android.

www.xda-developers.com
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Enjoying this wonderful app!

It just works flawlessly.

Thank you Marcel!
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
What amazes me is that Marcel keeps keeping up with really ingenious ideas to make FE more and more awesome!
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I admire Marcel that he still keeps track of all the functions and options ... he must work in an insanely structured way!
[Android Apps and Games] ghoppa:
Hi Marcel!

First of all again, thank you so much for your amazing work and support! I'm a happy paying customer since a couple of years and I love your app.

I have a question which I haven't found an answer to yet.

Is it possible to hide the Account Name in the mailbox? I'll try to explain myself better. I have several email accounts set up, and I read emails from them separatly. I have assigned a different color for each one and in the main view I have the list of each account. So I click one, open the Incoming folder and read emails.

In the emails list header I have 4 rows: Sender, Object, Name of my account, Text Preview.

I would like to hide the line which contains the Name of My Account. I know which account I am in and I don't need to see it there, I think it just adds clutter to the view. I have looked around in settings but haven't found a way to do that.

Is it possible?

Dank je wel!
[Android Apps and Games] Tutache2:
Hello, I have a relatively simple question: I have 3 accounts. 2 of them I want to periodicially sync once a day the other account I want to periodicially sync every 4 or 8 hours. How can I set this up?

I tried it the following way: Settings - Receive - When is put to "Every day". For the one account i wanted a higher checking freqeunce I went to the Settings - Main - Manual setup and account options - Accounts - Then the account which i wanted to have a sync every 4 hours - Advanced - Keep alive interval at for example 240 minutes. The setting at Edit properties for my Inbox at "synchronize" and "Check periodicially instead of continuous sync" - 1x240 minutes are activated. Unfortunately it does not work as I thought because it still syncs only every day. I looked around in the app and the FAQ but couldn't manage to get the correct solution for it.

My version is the current playstore version 1.1759.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is no account name in the message header when viewing a conversation, only a folder name. The account name is the subtitle at the top.

If you mean the account/folder name in the message list, try to switch to compact mode via the three-dots menu.
[Android Apps and Games] ghoppa:
Oh yes, sorry, that's what I meant!

I tried the compact view and it hides it correctly. The thing is that I prefer the normal view, I find it has better spacing in general. So, if that's the only way to hide the Account name in the message list, is it possible to edit compact view to have the same spacing as normal view?