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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am still quite depressed about the Play store reviews, so I am not going to try this, also not as an experiment.

Everybody can download the GitHub version instead anyway.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If somebody is going to wonder why there will be no updates the coming time:

"The constant updates on these are synonymous to windows updates which breaks more functionality than fixing it" 1 star

Note that there is a Play store update about only one a week.
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
A flat 5 star rating would be very artificial. There are people liking red, others like green and some don't care for colors at all. In this example colors can be any kind of attribute.

Also there are armies of paid 'influencers',for any cause you can think of.

This is how the world works, not anything related to you or your work. It is just 8mrd people and millions of special interest parties.

Beside this, I admire your dedication to open-source and privacy.
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
Hello Marcel,

I have a technical question.

I notice there are 2 different types of spinning icons when syncing. One is a white spinning arrow on round blue icon, the other is an orange spinning icon on transparent background.

What is the difference in meaning between these two sync indicators?

The blue one seems to be triggered by manual sync, but I don't understand what is triggering the orange one.

I have a user folder with about 2500 emails (that admittedly I should have cleaned up a long time ago) which keeps having this orange spinning arrow (it's been there for several days) and is slowly downloading very old messages from the server, despite the fact this folder is set to 30 days and trash old messages. The old messages downloaded through the orange spinning arrow are not auto trashed (I have to do it manually). I haven't found a way to stop this orange spinning wheel.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The spinner in the center indicates that there are background tasks running. An example is fetching favicons from the internet or selecting all messages.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Google puts more emphasis on newer reviews, so updating older, positive reviews helps for the average rating (I just discovered this) ...
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
You can't imagine how fast I rushed to the Playstore to update my review [emoji16][emoji1360]
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Me too. :good:
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Updated my review!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks, guys!
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
You should make this a sticky note or add to each of your posts

Just changed a couple of words and grammar to my earlier review
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
5-star review updated!

---------- Post added at 08:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:47 AM ----------

I have several folders set as sync 7 days and keep 30 days, which are fetching old emails (by batches of 10-20 emails at a time) whenever I'm deleting old emails or scrolling towards the end of the email list (i.e. towards older emails).

I don't understand this behavior, as I'm not doing any forced sync of old emails.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You'll want to disable 'browse' in the advanced account settings to prevent downloading older messages on scrolling down. Messages downloaded this way are always kept to prevent them from disappearing unexpectedly, for example when a background sync is being performed.
[Android Apps and Games] Namnodorel:
I don't know if this is directly applicable to FairEmail, but in any case it seems worth knowing about:

Security Researches from the RUB (university in Germany) have recently published a paper describing how a lot of email-clients are vulnerable to attacks that use additional parameters in mailto-links to attach arbitrary files to a mail or replace certificates. The paper can be found here: https://www.nds.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/media/nds/veroeffentlichungen/2020/08/15/mailto-paper.pdf

The paper contains results for a couple of clients that were tested for the issue. Vulnerable clients include Outlook and a (now out-of-date) version of Thunderbird.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The latest 1 star rating is making me very angry: the license on the first screen would not be the GPLv3 license and therefore the app would be suspicious. I am so angry that I might even close source the app. Apparently that is what is being expected.

Edit: this project will now definitely go to maintenance phase. There will be no more new features and only bugs will be fixed.

My limits have really been reached now.
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
You are hunting ghosts - you know that!

There is always a black swan, an elephant and a room full of..

That's life.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Given that the average rating is going down about each and everyday day: no, I am not.
[Android Apps and Games] dxbi:
If you need a break, take a break. Everyone who ever worked in customer service or anywhere close to people will understand how frustrating it can be. But remember that maybe the fact that weird reviews are coming in at an increased rate may also just mean that FairEmail is making its way out of the hardcore privacy bubble. Fake reviews are another topic of course, but the better your rating is, the more impact a poor single review will have on the average. Everyone on the internet knows that 4.5 stars is the real 5 stars. Everything above is pure luck or cheating.

If you need something to take your mind of everything, go to Amazon and search for the greatest piece of literature you can think of. Read the reviews. Go to the 1-star section. It will be great, I promise.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
And another two star rating because messages are marked read automatically. I explained how this can be disabled and the rating was updated to 1 star. Wut?!

I think the Moron-20 virus is worse than the Covid-19 virus.

Anyway, this kind of unfair and unreasonable reviews take the fun out is this project and seriously demotivate me to continue helping people. People are so ungrateful!
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
Let's take the stats shown to me: 100k downloads, 6.8k reviews. Average rating 4.7.

And you don't want to get your rating down.

So do the math. You are fighting against 7k reviewer and 100k people possible reviewer, not giving you a rating below 4.7.

How would you call it?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will take a break because I am going to concentrate on other things. Like I said, this project will go into maintenance now. Bugs will be fixed, but there will be no more new features. Enough is enough.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The math says that the average rating will soon be 4.6. Let's hope it stops there.

Still individual review like this do hurt as well.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
There is no other email app on android with a 4.7 rating. Is the best, will remain the best. You have already taken it to a level where it is going to be very difficult for any other app to even come close. I will say this again. There are always people who for a few cents will give a bad review. All it takes is a few seconds. I am not even sure these morons try to set up an account before denigrating the app. I rest my case.
[Android Apps and Games] max1967237:
Display Problem with some PGP encrypted mail

Hey everyone (and M66B of course!),

I am currently in the process of setting up PGP encryption for my mail accounts. I am using FairMail and Thunderbird with the Enigmail-Extension. I have now noticed, that in some cases - for example if I sent out a mail using FairMail to myself - the encryption works out perfectly and everything is "well hidden under the hood". However, if I send out a mail using my Thunderbird-Setup, the message is not displayed correctly. Instead, the individual files are decrypted and shown as attachements. I am able to read those using a text-editor-app, but of course it would be much more convenient to be able to access the text directly in the FairMail thread (see imgur.com/a/fDZ7cox).

Is there a known problem about the way Enigmail encodes the message / did I set up FairMail in a wrong way? I'd be happy for directions :)

PS: M66B, I just saw that you are struggeling with bad reviews :/ You did amazing work, dont let people tell you otherwise!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What happens when you tap on the padlock icon above the message text on the right side?
[Android Apps and Games] max1967237:
I am promted that the message is refetched from the server (or sth similar, my phone is set to german) and the screen goes back to the overview. When I go back to the message itself, sadly nothing has changed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Can you please contact me via here: https://contact.faircode.eu/?product=fairemailsupport

I will reply with a signed message, so you can send me an encrypted message, so I can check the encrypted message contents.
[Android Apps and Games] max1967237:
Will do, give me one second...
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Seems like they've got you where they want you, Marcel. Sorry to read that. But when you say you want to concentrate on other things, I can only hope it will be another privacy and security oriented project we can benefit from! Already looking forward to that.

?????
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Who knows ;)

Maybe there will be a paid update of NetGuard for Android 10+, but that won't be earlier than in the winter.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
FYI, I just did a search for 'Android Foss Apps' with duckduckgo, and this was listed fairly high in the results.

https://beebom.com/open-source-apps-android/

Amazing Open Source Android Apps in 2020

FarEmail was the only email app listed. NetGuard was also on the list.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Will Android 10 a technical requirement then or is there an other reason for this?

I'm just curious and couldn't buy (/use) it then, because at the moment I'm stuck on Android 9.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] I think I found a bug with the bullets/numbered list when composing a message. When creating a list with a custom color, everything is fine on creation. However, if I want to edit the list items, they all keep the correct custom color except the last item in the list. Also, if I add a new bullet/number at the end, the color is not the same as the custom one and I have to set it again manually. Could it be made that the color for all the bulleted/numbered list is applied across the board?

Thanks for looking into that.
[Android Apps and Games] fogame:
Disregard this. Found my answer on github.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Android 10 has extra APIs and doesn't need all kind of workarounds. Also, the network hardware on Android 10 devices will allow for always filtering without draining the battery.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I do not consider this as a bug. Try changing the color span flag to inclusive/inclusive (Edit: here), color some text and try to type some text directly before/after it. It will be colored too. This is mostly not desirable. You can't set the color span flag differently in the case of bullet spans. Choices have to be made ...
[Android Apps and Games] tourbound129:
M66B,

Thank you for a great email client. I just stumbled on it here at XDA last night, used it for about 30 minutes and donated for the pro features. Loving it so far.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1295 Pampadromaeus

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.

Your depressed developer.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Luckily no new features :svetius: :cool:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Just two new options, that's all.

I wish the same applied to bad Play store ratings.

Today there was a 1 star rating even before checking out the app :(
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
They didn't like the icon?
[Android Apps and Games] DIR49DNOR0N:
If i am using inbound encryption with my email provider (uploading public key), can i use fairemail to decrypt that email ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Probably, please see this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq12
[Android Apps and Games] upD8R:
Hey, most likely not directly a Fairmail topic but I'm asking anyway, maybe somebody has seen that issue before.

I recently purchased a Fossil Carlyle smartwatch (5th Gen) running Wear OS and try to get familiar with it. The main thing, which bothers me: I don't get (reliable) notifications from Fairmail on the watch. I disabled most notifications except different messengers, banking and, of course, email.

The watch vibrates as soon as I get a mail but no notification shown, also not if I swipe upwards. Sometimes not even a vibration.

I'd exclude any energy optimization as being the root cause, I already disabled everything in this regard, Maybe I need to configure Fairmail's notifications in a way that it's more "compatible" with the Wear OS app? Anybody using successfully Fairmail with a Wear OS watch?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This FAQ might help you:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq126
[Android Apps and Games] upD8R:
Thanks very much indeed, Marcel!

A first test is very promising!

Note to myself: Read the FAQ! :)
[Android Apps and Games] Ikearat:
New to FairEmail, (long-time NetGuard fan and user, can't compliment this application enough!)

I switched from K-9 Mail to FairEmail due to K-9 failing to Forward in-line attachments. Also, K-9 is poorly supported.

I sent a Donation for FairEmail through PayPal, I expect to "up" that donation to match what I have Donated for NetGuard.

Both of these applications are amazing.

FairEmail runs on my Blackview BV9500, Android 8.1.0 No Problems Found!
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] , donation en route (electronic) :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=5445418]Dark_Eyes_[/MENTION] can you please check how the performance is for you with this commit?

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/bda49eb55f5d1518c6d993dda8bea3d9f79e5ded

Edit: please try this change too:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/0382cdc5d00fed5393b8b9944a788ae12d407775
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1296

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Most of the changes are under the hood, but no less important.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] Friedel25:
"Added copy with HTML styles in editors" is a great improvement. It was at the top of my wish list. Thank you so much, Marcel !

:good: :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Actually, I was surprised that Android doesn't support this by default and on the other hand I was not. Google is working on all kind of new stuff. Hopefully, they will one day improve the existing Android editor and add industry standard stuff like numbered bullets and fix all those bug that were reported sometimes 8 years ago!
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
FE not working anymore after upgrading 1.295 to 1.296 on Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 Android 7.0:

Could not connect to SMTP host: 213.165.67.124, port: 587 Handshake failed SSL handshake aborted: ssl=0x7f7e457200: Failure in SSL library, usually a protocol error

error:100000f7:SSL routines:eek:PENSSL_internal:WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER (external/boringssl/src/ssl/tls_record.c:192 0x7fa21cf1d7:0x00000000)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Can you please contact me?

https://contact.faircode.eu/?product=fairemailsupport
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1297

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Due to a small typo some people had trouble sending messages via SMTP/STARTTLS. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] Lostwarriorram:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] I came across Fairmail App earlier today and I already paid for the pro version. Great work... thank you very much.

Few observations which could be helpful to many users like me.

1. Black / Grey / Black and white theme - UnRead Messages - Is there a way, the senders name and subject line could be bold and white color. This way it clearly differentiates these 3 items as well as next / previous messages. For "read" messages, it would be great to grey them out similar to messages in unread message (dark grey). Best example will be gmail app with night mode in iPhone or outlook app with night mode in android.

2. Biometric - will we be able to get an option that Biometric login kicks in right after the display is turned off and also when the app is killed by swiping up. I understand, the 1, 5, x, minute option is good when you move back and forth out of Fairmail while accessing other apps.

BTW, I am using Note 20 Ultra if that really matters.

Apologies if these features maybe in pipeline, I didn't get a chance to check this thread or the forum.

Looking forward to hear positive news.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Try enabling sender/subject highlighting in the display settings. That said, black & white is just black & white. Whiter than white is not possible.

Turning off the screen will engage the PIN / biometric lock. Swiping away in the recent apps screen will not, but I will see if it is possible to add this.

Edit: there seems to be no way to detect that an app was swiped away from the recent apps screen.
[Android Apps and Games] Lostwarriorram:
Thank you for quick response. I will try my bank app to confirm once again with regards to swipe up.

Meanwhile, I was able to enable "highlight sender/subject ". I guess my request is simply change the preview message color to darkest grey both for read and unread messages.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You are welcome.

I can't change the preview text color in this stage of the project anymore because that would inevitable result in lots of complaints. I can't add an option for every little thing either. There are arguably already too many options, often resulting in questions and unfortunately in complaints too.
[Android Apps and Games] Lostwarriorram:
Totally understandable. I was asking if that is an option in the current stage since there are many features that can be tweaked(it's a compliment), I may have overlooked.

Is there a way, I can put in a feature request for future release? I'm perfectly fine to wait till this request bubbles up your todo list.

Appreciate your prompt replies. This speaks volumes.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] sorry for the late reply, I'm on vacations :)

Definitively not as bad as anything after beta 3, but it still feels a bit choppy on the first scroll down. After that, it's smooth, as if it had to load the views once to get smooth scrolling. I can live with that.

Thanks for this update!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can request new features here, but please read this first:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-support

I will be clear about if the feature goes on my to-do list or not.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Enjoy your holiday, but please be careful!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1298

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version fixes prematurely stopping the sync service in some situations, causing messages not to be synchronized. I took me quite some time to find the root cause of this rare problem!

Please report any issue, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] MotoLoBravia:
ANR often

Hi,

I recognize the ANR's reported by user Dorqus

I have them too.

Cannot explain why.

I had them for some time. Und now after updating via Google Play to version 1.1294 again I saw an ANR after some time.

I'm willing to help. I use a non-rooted Moto G 6 Plus on Android 9 with latest updates installed.

I also use Blokada, but in Blokada one can click on workaround for Apps. So I clicked Workaround/exempt for FairEmail.

For private emails: Can be in English, Dutch and German
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
According to the Play store developer console there are hardly ANRs.

Most ANRs are caused by the screen on/off intent, which is more an Android than a FairEmail problem.

When are you seeing ANRs?
[Android Apps and Games] MotoLoBravia:
I cannot predict when I will see ANRs. I have not seen any behavioral connection to the ANR's.

Like user Dorqus: it happens every day or two.

I have once previously some time ago long pressed support and sent log.

As of now I will do this more often.

I do not know whether you see any user info of the error reporter via Google. If you want to know more user info or device info, pls send a PM.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If you want to send log files, long press 'Support' in the navigation menu.

Please include a short problem description, so I know what it is about.

In any case, I never see any ANR with my Pixel 3a XL.
[Android Apps and Games] MotoLoBravia:
I will then also include my xda username
[Android Apps and Games] niix:
Hi again,

FairEmail cannot detect if my wifi connection has internet or not. The phone can, and adds an icon to detect it (x symbol). No apps complain but FairEmail.

I get errors from FairEmail because it cannot estabilish a connection.

Can we avoid that? This is the first time this happens, maybe something got broken with recent updates.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Having internet and establishing a connection are two different things.

What is the problem or error exactly?
[Android Apps and Games] niix:
I'll see if I can reproduce it, so to give you the exact error.

Anyway it is something like: "FairEmail could not estabilish a connection with the server"
[Android Apps and Games] niix:
I tried to reproduce it but I couldn't.

This is what I think happened.

My phone is connected to the internet through a WiFi connection. Sometimes (often during the week) they do some mainteinance work and internet gets unavailable, but the WiFi connection stays on. Android usually is able to detect this and changes the WiFi icon so that I know I have WiFi without internet.

Probably when internet dropped, FairEmail was in the middle of something, and this morning I had two notifications (I have two accounts) with a triangle icon saying something went wrong with the connection.

I did not dismiss the notifications and I restarted the phone to see if I could get internet back. After reboot I got the notification again, but I did not realize it was the same notification I did not dismiss before rebooting.

Edit:

As internet dropping is common on my end, getting two notifications from FairEmail everytime my internet drops is a bit annoying. I understand that when FairEmail loses contact with the IMAP connection it throws a notification. I guess
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1299

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue, so it can be fixed.

Your depressed developer:

1 star: Security issues. Specifically downloaded this app to set up a new email but it automatically (without even requesting permission) downloaded an illegible (or blank?) pdf of instructions. Also unable to set up account with existing email. The only info i could discover about this (allegedly) open-source app is - it is owned by Chromium? Uninstalled and do not wish to correspond with developer.

1 star: Alternative zu Gmail fehlgeschlagen da ich die E-Mail Adresse über gmail Konto bestätigen muss. Und da die Adresse über family Link gesichert ist kann ich sie übers gmail Konto nicht bestätigen. Dann kann ich auch bei GMail bleiben.

1 star: Can't handle a basic pop3 setup.

The few 4/5 star ratings are no compensation for this and there was no response to my answers, which is rather frustrating and demotivating.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Hi,

FE did not show inline images in HTML mode, only in reformatted modes. The only way to show inline images is to accept "Always show images on showing originale messages" but this will load remote images also.

How to reproduce: send yourself an email with an inline image.

I thinks we had such a problem earlier.