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[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
Is there a short (text-)warning about this when the app finds a new version?
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
Looking good so far for my simple usage profile :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The GitHub version will automatically check for updates and notify you if one was found, unless you disabled this in the miscellaneous settings.
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
@M66B Dear Marcel, this is a good setting option / circumstance, but does the corresponding message also contain a small warning about exporting the data beforehand? I'm just a normal user from a non-binary galaxy ... :D
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This should normally not be necessary. Personally, I have never lost any data by updating the app, which I have done literally 10,000s of times!
[Android Apps and Games] gabi11:
Hi Marcel,

Speaking of export/import area

1. As I already searched the thread: export settings doesn't export the rules, right?

Need to go per folder to "edit rules" screen and export/import from there?

2. No way of exporting local notes, correct?

Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Browsing and searching works fine for me from what I can tell right now.

I have a minor priority feature request for the rules:

Would be nice if I could check for how old a mail is.

My use case would be "delete mails from sender x when they are older than y days"
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Rules are meant to be executed when a new message arrives. At that moment a message is always new.

Maybe you want to change the folder "keep" time instead?

Related FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq39
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The main export (via the settings screen) exports everything, including rules.

Local notes cannot be exported, but I will add this to my to do list to look into. The challenge will be to find back the original message.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Oh, okay. Currently the keep time would not help, because there are other mails in this folder, but I'll try to figure out a solution for this (folder specially for this sender) or live with it. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If the messages of this sender are special in some way, this would be a good justification for a special folder and a special treatment IMHO. That's what I do too ;-)
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
Hmm, it's just a train of thought regarding the original messages to which a note is attached ... maybe the original message is simply marked with a red star and left in the original folder, while the annotated (copied) message is in its own folder ( "FairNotes") stored ... that might also keep the overview of the "note / to-do" emails ...
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
They are not special enough normally. These are my Dominos mails (again 😂) and they are pushed per rule to a folder where other sales discount mails are (manually moved) stored.

I just look for this mails when I really want to order pizzas (seldom), not because there is any discount offer (often), but the discounts have an expiration of validity and the mails are useless after some time.

Other mails in this folder should be stored longer and will be deleted manually.

tl;dr

I think they get a separate folder 🤪
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
A FairMailNote-folder with an alarming-system :giggle:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is on my to do list to look into copying notes.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Sorry.. What exactly is "local notes"?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is a relative new option: in the horizontal three-dots menu just above the message text near the left side there is a new option to write a little note for yourself, like "Call back on Wednesday", etc, which will be shown in the message header.

If you use this often, you can enable a button for this via the horizontal three-dots menu too.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Excellent 👍
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Working great. Scrolled all the way back to 2008 when I was a lot younger and dumber;) seriously though - all good
[Android Apps and Games] O_DoC:
Still working like a charm here !

[Device p30pro Android 10.1]

Browse ==👌🏽as usual

Search => even faster 🤘🏽

Thanks Marcel
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1518 is available on GitHub now and will be available in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
@AndroAlex try copying (labeling) messages with a note with the new release.
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
@M66B I added a note to an email. This note is shown on the actual mail above, also nicely in the collective overview. (y)

But after copying into another folder, this copied mail does not contain the note in the mail itself or in the collective overview of the relevant folder. :unsure:
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
In the search function, the note is found in the original email. (y)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It works for me, tested by both labeling and copying a Gmail inbox message with a note to another (user) folder. The message appears in the other folder with the same note.

What did you try?
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
I copied the mail with the note in a subfolder ... could it be because of that?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That shouldn't matter, but please tell me from where to where you copied the message (I am interested in system and users folders only, not the names of the folders). I am assuming this is about a Gmail account?
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
It is a gmx account, and I did the copying without the internet. I took a mail from the inbox folder and copied it into a subfolder named by me (already existed).

Do I need an internet connection when copying?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just tried with a test GMX account (as you probably can imagine I have lots of test accounts) and it works fine for me.

I understand the problem though: the note will be attached after the messages was synchronized with the server, which won't happen if there is no internet connection.
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
Aha, that is an understandable reason :D

Now it's up to you Marcel whether this is enough ...

Hmm, you can add a note without internet access ... I'll see if it appears after the sync process ...
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
I tried the same message in the main inbox folder that has already a note ... unfortunately even with copying / syncing over net the note does not appear in the copied message in the subfolder.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't understand. Exact the same works for me. Are you moving or copying the message? With FairEmail?
[Android Apps and Games] gabi11:
Confirming it also works for me.

Both on copying and labeling.

Btw, great to see you took it a step forward and when deleting the note, it is deleted from the copies as well 😀👏👑
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
Oh my goodness I'm a fool!

I'm still using version 1.517 and I'm sinking into the ground with shame!

😞
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Full support for Android apps in Windows 10 may appear later this year

Full support for Android apps in Windows 10 may appear later this year. The company decided to go furthermore.

www.gizchina.com

Woot woot FairEmail on Windows.
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
@M66B Dear Marcel, the notes in the mails, as well as the copying together with the associated note in sub-folders, works flawlessly with 1.518 (y)

Changes to the notes are automatically adopted in all copied messages, but also vice versa!

Realized quickly and, above all, very well done ... thank you 🙃
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You are welcome.

If you are really happy, you can always donate something to support the project:

FairEmail - Donate

Support FairEmail with a donation

email.faircode.eu
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
The FairMail Pro version, with even more useful setting options, has already been bought alongside NetGuard Pro version, to support both unique projects from you. :)
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Dear Marcel,

I miss a separators in the to: field. If you got an email with two recipients the to: lists the addresses, or the address book names but without a space or a ","
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is indeed a bug, which I will fix right away.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Same problem with cc: field
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Fixed address separator · M66B/FairEmail@2573fa3

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - Fixed address separator · M66B/FairEmail@2573fa3

github.com
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1519 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store after Google's approval, which mostly takes a few hours.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Seperator is now working. I discovered another effect: someone sent me a mail with

to: first_name1 last_name1<adddress1>, "last_name2, first_name2" <address2>

This is displayed as:

to: first_name1 last_name1, last_name1, first_name2

Looks like 3 recipients.

Maybe there should be some "
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't see how this could happen. Can you please send me a raw message file of an example message (you can use report issue in the navigation menu) ?

Raw message: save via the horizontal three dots menu just above the message text.
[Android Apps and Games] gabi11:
Hi Marcel,

Feature request for the future... 😊

Copied messages on different folders - is it possible to sync the "snooze message" data and icon between them? (more or less like you did with local notes..)

Btw, didn't have the chance to check it myself so asking - snooze data is backed up by exported settings?

Thanks a lot!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Snoozing is always done per message to make sure new messages in a conversation don't get snoozed.

Snoozed messages are not exported because messages are not being exported either. This is not feasible with a huge amount of messages (some people store literally hundreds of thousands of messages on their device).
[Android Apps and Games] AndroAlex:
Dear Marcel, I would like to join with a question ... is it possible to give the pop-up note-window a date field and to copy the note into the calendar when filling it out?

Thank you also a lot!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure if I understand this correctly, but you can create a calendar event from a message. I will see if the note can be include when doing this.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
@AndroAlex there is no field for notes in the send intent:

https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Intent#ACTION_SEND

(email, subject and text are already being used)

So, it is not possible to add the local notes.
[Android Apps and Games] Daniel1515:
Sorry if I missed it, but is there a way to bulk edit the settings for folders? For example, I want to enable "notify on new messages" and "synchronize" on several folders - Is there a way to do that without editing them individually?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is an 'Apply to all' in the three-dots overflow menu of the folder list, but you can't batch enabled synchronization or new message notifications.

You can long press on a folder to enable synchronization / new messages notifications though, saving you going through the folder properties. Also, in the long press menu you can enable/disable synchronization for all sub folders.
[Android Apps and Games] Daniel1515:
Thanks for the details! It would be nice to get "show in unified inbox" in that "apply to all" dialog too - I have dozens of folders and want to most of them in the unified inbox (pretty much all of them except for spam and archive).

In the future, I'd love to see better support for bulk editing. I'm a developer but I've never worked with Android apps... Perhaps I can figure out how to code that myself and send you a pull request :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It would be easy to add this, but it would result in an endless series of support questions of people who use this and don't know what it does.

I am not sure what you mean by bulk editing, but you can long press to select multiple messages and perform actions on the selected messages.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
@M66B, lately I've been wishing for a way to quickly access the replied/forwarded (sent) message of an inbox/archive message. I thought maybe it would be possible by clicking on the replied/forwarded icon on the message header? Problem is there might be more than one, but it could by like a special "search" function with a list of messages and auto expand if there is only one?

Anyway, it's not a big deal, but it would be useful in my present usecase.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
With conversation threading (grouping of messages) this should be simple.
[Android Apps and Games] Daniel1515:
Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant bulk editing of folders. The ability to modify the properties of multiple folders at the same time. Imagine something similar to long-pressing messages where you could select multiple folders, then click "properties", and the properties dialog edits all the selected folders (showing checkboxes in indeterminate state where appropriate). It's pretty tedious editing them one by one, and sometimes I don't want to edit some setting for ALL of them (like the "apply to all" does).

Thanks for the great app :)
[Android Apps and Games] Bl1zZ87:
@M66B

Hello Marcel,

i have a question about your great email app. Maybe it's a bug, maybe it normally and I don't know the technical reason.

When I send an mail, it will be first saved under drafts. That's OK. The mail, with or without attachment, will be uploaded to my email provider. When I finally send the mail (with or without attachment) it will be uploaded a second time. Sound legitime because it will be moved to another folder (transmitted).

Now the mail has been sent.

But after few seconds it will by uploaded for the third time.

(in the meantime the mail is grayed out until the sever approved the transmission)

Is it normal or can I do someting to prevent a lot of data being used. For example. When I send an mail with a 15mb attachment it will be used round about 45mb (for the triple upload). This behavior occurs even without an attachment.

Thank you very much for your help!

Have a nice evening
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Each time the draft changes it will be uploaded. You can disable this in the three-dots menu of the message composer.
[Android Apps and Games] Bl1zZ87:
Thanks a lot marcel! The "draft upload" is gone. But Im wondering why my attachment / message will be still uploaded two time to the mail sever. First time immediately after I sent the message and a second time few second later (5-10seconds). Will the server become the data twice? Is is normally? I'm interested in the technical background.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A sent message will be uploaded to the sent messages folder too if the email server doesn't add the sent message to the sent messages folder.
[Android Apps and Games] Bl1zZ87:
OK thats sounds logical.

I think fairmail doesn't have an option for disabling the second upload to the sent messages folder. Maybe it will be a feature in future :) thanks Marcel!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can unselect the sent messages folder in the account settings if you want this.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Request

I often use templates with my email client Evolution. I can use the templates from any computer because they are stored in a folder.

With FairEmail, I always have to manually copy the templates to each Android device if modified because FairEmail stores them locally.

I would like FairEmail to also store the templates on the mail server.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Templates are included in the settings export.

As far as I know there is no standard to store templates on the email server. They could be stored as drafts, but you can do this yourself too by creating a draft from a template.

Moreover, FairEmail has place holders like $firstname$ to auto fill in the first name of the person you are replying to.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Yes, there is no standard for templates. Evolution is simply copying the template text from the folder to the reply text. Would it be fine if the templates of all android devices are in sync?

Anyway. Is the method do create a template from a draft?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Synchronizing templates between different devices would require a server.

You can long press a template to create a draft from it.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Yes, an imap server.

Yes, and the opposite way? Draft to template
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
An IMAP server does not support storing templates, other than as drafts.

Draft to template: copy paste.

I see what you want, but I don't see a feasible way to implement this. Theoretically the template name could go into the subject, but where should the description and the category go?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
@jaholm next version:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/e13c637e5069545d82534874eb15126ca9c3893b
[Android Apps and Games] ianmacd:
As a recent convert to FairEmail, I'm going back a year to revive this topic, but that's better than posting without searching the thread.

Just out of interest, what kind of fee are we looking at to sponsor a Sieve editor/syntax checker/up- and downloader?

Right now, I use Vim to edit a text file and then upload it to the IMAP server using Cyrus' sieveshell utility. That doesn't do me much good when mobile, though, so even just an in-app uploader would be a useful addition. I'll be the first to admit that it's probably a niche feature, because Sieve is a classic example of a product designed by a computer scientist for academically orientated users, so it has never really caught on.

Still, server-side filtering is just so elegant, so since you didn't reject the idea out of hand and referred to sponsorship, I'd like to get an idea of your tariff.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1520 is available on GitHub now.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

I like to receive feedback about the new expand/collapse icon for "Manual setup and more options" in the setup. Is it an improvement or isn't it?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
@ianmacd I am not available for paid work. ManageSieve is hardly used by anybody anymore, so it doesn't make much sense to add this. Moreover, FairEmail has it's own filter rules.

Also, I don't do half things, so just a text upload is not something I want to add. It will most likely result in questions only, of which I already receive plenty (think thousands each month).
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I'm not sure what the icon should add, but it looks nice. Maybe that's what it adds 🙂

What added more for me is the Send hard bounce feature in the Spam folder. One of my frequent pests on my personal email server has finally given up!
[Android Apps and Games] ianmacd:
Fair enough. So I guess when you said, "It would be a sponsored feature", you implicitly also meant, "if I were prepared to add it in principle, which I'm not".

That's fine. I understand your reasons. This is your baby and your vision for it and you don't want to spend time on features that you don't see as important, even as paid work. I hope I don't sound sarcastic here. I'm really not, and I approach my work in the same way. I only want to work on the things that I view as important, and being paid to do the opposite isn't any fun.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks for your understanding.

In the course of two years only 2 or maybe 3 persons have asked about ManageSieve support, so I guess it is safe to say almost nobody uses it, considering that there are hundreds of thousand people using FairEmail.

It is already hard enough to support the many existing features, which is one of the main reasons, besides the significant amount of work involved, to not wanting to add this.

In my experience, if something more complex is added, there will be many follow up feature requests and also side cases to fix, which means the amount of work is often a lot more than anticipated. In this case it could easily turn out to be multiple dozens of hours work in total.

An example is the recent addition of local notes. "Can we search for local notes?", "Can we export local notes?", "Can we use local notes for calendar events?", and so on. All understandable, but the apparently simple addition of local notes almost turned into a project of itself. The difference here is that local notes was asked for a lot more times than ManageSieve, which makes it more worthwhile to put time into it.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
I think it looks quite nice, but it doesn't change much to before, because the icon itself is not the problem.

Before:

the icon says it's a drop-down with more information behind it and the text says it's a link and you can click it and will be send to a different page

Now:

the icon does not indicate that there will be more information below, but the text still says you can click it and will be send to a different page

Maybe it should be something like in the picture below the text "Anatomy and key properties" at this link:

Material Design

Build beautiful, usable products faster. Material Design is an adaptable system—backed by open-source code—that helps teams build high quality digital experiences.

material.io

for number 6 Cascading menu indicator.

So that the result is your new icon, then the text without an underline and then at the end the old icon to indicate that there is more below when you click the icon.

Just an idea.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks for the idea. However, that is what is basically was before, but not everybody understood it was expandable (could be drop down), which is why I replaced the expander up/down icons with a settings wheel, which looks like a button, hoping people can better find this.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I think the dropdown arrow is better, especially since it is already used in quite a few other places with the same function.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Maybe it is, I will experiment a bit with a solid drop down icon.
[Android Apps and Games] ianmacd:
As a recent convert to FairEmail, it took me a while to realise that this was where I needed to be to edit my account settings.

What confused me was that the tab that contains this is named Start, the section heading is named Add accounts, there's a big Wizard button, and the text of the expandable section contains the wording Manual setup. All of which led me to believe this screen was only for initial account entry, not for subsequent account editing. It took me a few minutes to figure it out.

In fact, this one detail has probably been the most confusing thing I have encountered so far in what is otherwise a commendably intuitive app.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I understand, but how would you improve this, without hiding the manual setup somewhere else, which has proven to result in even more questions.

Edit: not hiding the manual setup has resulting in lots of bad reviews "too complicated".