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[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
That's the thing. VPN is just a service for me. To be honest - I don't trust VPN providers not such much. To cheap for much traffic, to many possibilities being the man in the middle.

There are reasons not using their own IP, mostly copyright things or alike. (I am very intrigued to use such, so I can escape the stream capture of my country for corona ads (no joke, they just capture my webradio stream from other countries and inject their ads)

I prefer just to ensure the use of my network with VPN - from everywhere; no provider involved.

I admit, it gets a bit offtopic, but I really would suggest hosting your own mail server - it is not that hard with the right tools.

These 2 solutions I would like to suggest (ordered alphabetically):

https://mailcow.email/

https://mailinabox.email/

A domain, a host somewhere. Yes, it costs more than freemailer - but it has it pros ;).

And sorry for being offtopic.

And also if I really like black themes, after a short look: it's dark enough for me! I like it.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
App traffic is almost always end-to-end encrypted these days, so IMHO VPNs are mostly a security risk in itself.

I have been running my own email servers, but I have stopped with it because deliverability of messages has become an unmanageable problem.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1157

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] caprihome:
one request:

on a tablet with 2 columns on the right side is the content of the mail. on the left side I can not see wich mail it is, it is not marked or has not an other background as the other mails.

It would be good to show what email is shown on the right.

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is already on my to do list, but low priority.
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION], the text rendering has gotten really accurate; I rarely need to show images or HTML. In the text only view, would it be possible to hide the image placeholders?
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
On my pc i use a webmail which hides images by default. It's often disturbing as i don't see embedded images on the first view. I only have a "show images" link.
[Android Apps and Games] j4dotcc:
Thanks. I set the sync time to 60 minutes but had checked all boxes below (I didn't really notice what it meant, but now it's clear). Without having any accounts checked as "always exception", it is working as expected and the battery usage is really good.

I dont use a VPN, so I am not quite sure what's the root cause for the connection abort.

Anyway, thanks for the great support!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
IMHO the image place holders are very useful to know that there is an image, possibly containing important information. There is no option to disable this and I have no plans to add such an option.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION], I tried to update constraintlayout to beta6, and the app is almost unusable as it's lagging and stuttering a lot. Any idea why that is? Are we stuck on beta3 forever lol? Not that it's a big deal (don't fix it if it ain't broken), but I'm just wondering.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a very good reason why I didn't update the AndroidX ConstraintLayout library! It has been broken to the core since beta3. This is one of the related issues:

https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/130524019

beta4 has serious performance issues causing stuttering. beta5 has visibility/layout issues. I haven't tried beta6 yet, but there have already been a number of new issues reported:

https://issuetracker.google.com/issues?q=componentid:323867 status:open

So, it isn't looking good and beta3 still works fine ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1158

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version will highlight the selected conversation in multiple column mode by setting the conversation icon color to the accent color [MENTION=5375327]caprihome[/MENTION].

Because this was frequently requested, the unified inbox widget will show a color stripe now, but only if not a specific account or a specific folder was selected.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
When I change from landscape format to single-row portrait format, the coloring of the conversation icon remains the same for now.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That's by design: you might have rotated your device accidentally.

The mark will be reset when you open another message.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
This also applies to Outlook/MicroSoft, but in outlook settings it can be disabled/opt-out which probably means they just hide the view from you :silly:

In gmail there is no way, no setting to disable it.
[Android Apps and Games] caprihome:
Thank you very much for your fast work. :good::good::good: But...

...I do not use the conversation mode in mutiple column, no solution for that case?
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I don't use any of these but sometimes one feels like just giving up....... The big guys have you coming and going. We're like infants fighting giants.

?

Besides it's probably too late. That train has left the station long ago.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
On the previous version. When I tap the notification and read the message and later go to inbox, I see that as unread. My settings below. Am I missing something?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Not yet, I will think about something appropriate.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Did you maybe disable automatic marking expanded messages read? Setup, step 1, Manage, tap account, tap Advanced
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
No. Will observe more closely and revert. Maybe I am doing something goofy

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] agnelvishal:
File not found error in fdroid

I am getting file not found error when installing from fdroid.

I am able to install other apps from fdroid.

Attached the screenshot at https://twitter.com/agnelvishal/status/1261645730495844353?s=20
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Maybe you need to refresh the app list of the F-Droid app.

Note that I don't have control over the F-Droid build.

Alternatively, install the "official" GitHub release. The F-Droid build is often not up to date, which can be a problem in case of a critical update.
[Android Apps and Games] agnelvishal:
Oh yes. Refreshing the app list worked. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
It happens when the repo (not yours, the general F-Droid repo) has been updated very recently. You can try 10-15 minutes later.
[Android Apps and Games] cm2003:
Hi there.

Got a small issue related to aliases.

Today I set up my Gmail address as alias to my main mail address. After some issues password related I've managed to create an app password and was able to set up the alias just fine.

But when I now try to send an email, I only get attached message in my outbox.

Any idea what I am doing wrong?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This doesn't look good. Please pull down the outbox to retry sending and immediately after it send me the debug info by long pressing 'Support' in the navigation menu (swipe from the left edge inwards).
[Android Apps and Games] cm2003:
Damn, you are so fast in responding...

I've closed the app, started it, tried to send the mail and did the support part :) hopefully I did it correctly.

Thank you already!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I haven't received the debug info yet, so I hope it isn't hanging in the outbox too.
[Android Apps and Games] cm2003:
It was :)

I had to delete the previous mail in order to release the mail. You should have it now :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have received it and will look into it soon.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Feedback

Version 1.1158 on an android phone running android 9 stock.

As recommended, I do not have my Trash and my Junk (spam) folders set to automatically synchronize on the phone. So their contents remain on the server and do not show up in these folders on the phone.

Because I have limited storage on the server, I need to empty these folders intermittently so my mailboxes do not fill up beyond capacity and start rejecting new emails. Long pressing on the Trash and Junk (spam) folders in FairEmail brings up the option 'Empty Trash' or 'Empty Spam'. Great!

1. But this only empties messages that are synchronized (that is downloaded) on the phone. To really empty Trash or Junk folders I need to go into each Trash and Junk folder, click on synchronize, wait for the phone folder to fill up and then click on Empty Trash/Junk. Repeat these steps in each of 6 accounts. Rather tedious.

It would be nice if there was a setting I could use to empty All trash and or Junk from —both_ the phone and the server?

2. I like to have my 'sent' emails appear in the unified inbox. When I delete a sent email from where it appears in the Unified Inbox, it does not get deleted from the Sent folder. Is that by design?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
IMAP has no command to delete all messages from a folder, so the messages need to be fetched first to know which messages to delete.

I am not sure how you are showing sent messages in the unified inbox, so I cannot really answer your question about this. Did you add the sent messages folder to the unified inbox? Did you create a rule to copy sent messages to the inbox?
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Sorry for being unclear. So I guess I should make all folders always synchronize. An "empty all trash/junk from all accounts" would be a time saver.

As for the unified inbox, I know I did not create a rule. I think I added the sent folder to the United Inbox sometime during the initial account setting up but when I now tried to find out where I could not locate where that setting is. Sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] famusc:
Hi [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION],

I always thank you very much for your great support.

I have to ask you a couple of things:

1) I remember that there was a build with outlook oauth, where did it go?

2) When I change zoom in email text body, there 's no way to go back to 100% unless you do it manually but it's not easy to catch the default size. Could you add a button or a menu item to go back to 100% text size?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can add / remove folders to / from the unified inbox by long pressing on the folder in the folder list.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The latest GitHub release has support for Outlook Oauth.

I have no plans to add another button to reset zooming.
[Android Apps and Games] famusc:
That's strange : I just added my work email which is office 365 and in account options it says "oauth is not available".

Anyway, it would be enough a toast notification with zooming percentage or text size while zooming. Could it be an idea?

Thx
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
OAuth for Outlook works fine for me. I like to see a screenshot of the error you get.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1159

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This is a maintenance version fixing and improving some things. This version has a fix for your problem [MENTION=4695065]cm2003[/MENTION] too.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] cm2003:
Thank you so much!

My problem is fixed with your latest release!

Brilliant support really!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is on my to do list, but low priority.

Thanks for the suggestion.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You are very welcome.

You can always show your appreciation with a donation:

https://email.faircode.eu/donate/
[Android Apps and Games] famusc:
Thank you very much!

Here is the screenshot with the oauth bot available text: maybe it is just text.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I guess that message needs to be removed.

There is Oauth for Outlook in the quick setup wizard. Did you try that already?
[Android Apps and Games] famusc:
Ah ok great: it's in wizard. I added account in standard way and expected oauth from there. Didn't realize it was available from wizard.

It works good there, thx
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is one of the reasons your messages should never be stored on third party servers:

"Edison Mail rolls back update after iOS users reported they could see strangers’ emails"

https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/16/21260967/edison-mail-update-ios-security-bug
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
If I am not mistaken this company was accused of prying into user data some years ago as well. Wonder how they will survive this incident . Recommend everyone move to FairEmail for privacy !
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1160

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] caprihome:
Thank you for

"Show selected message in multi column mode"

:good:
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
But — as I've learned here — the email app (in this case FairEmail) is not the email provider or server where your emails reside. The server issue is separate and its own risk even if you're using FairEmail and a firewall like NetGuard.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please compare this:

Edison app -> Edison server -> provider's email server

FairEmai -> provider's email server
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Hmm. Thoughts on hosting your own server? With mail domains?
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Yes yes yes!
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
Why don't you host your own server? Fairmail is a client. Providing a mailserver for others is complicated, not technically but within compliance with EU regulations.

A start for hosting an own server is in some of my posts here.

You need a domain, a vps with permanent ip and either mailcow or mailinabox. That's it. You ca do it yourself and not just waiting for others to bring you everything you need.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Because, no matter what you say, it takes a certain level of know-how to set up and run a server. Otherwise everybody would be doing it. I don't have the expertise to do it and I have enough knowledge to know that a minor error in the setup by someone like me who doesn't know all the deep details could leave me wide open worse than using an established server provider. And it takes time to maintain and troubleshoot. I bet even Marcel, who certainly has the knowledge, does not run his own server but maybe he does.
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
The knowledge for running a mailserver is well maintained in the docs of both projects I mentioned.

Once setup it just runs. Maintenance is less than an hour per month, less than 15min I would say from my experience.

Yes, you have to read tbe docs, yes you have time to invest. But than again, if it is free, you are the product.

And why doesn't it matter what I say? I speak as one running my own mailserver. Have I been born with the knowledge? In my professional life I never had to do anything with this. This was a personal invest.

Also you can group together and realize the mailserver project with friends. Help other people too.

Not even reading the docs of the projects I mentioned, but asking the one who is dedicating a big part of his life, bringing the best privacy related email client also for a server... How would you call that?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have been running my own email servers for quiet some time, but I have stopped with it because email deliverability became problematic. More and more messages ended up in the spam folder of the recipient and you can do almost nothing to change this. For example contacting Microsoft is almost always useless. Note that I send legitimate email only and that everything was setup properly, DKIM, SPF, DMARC, reverse DNS, etc.

So, I don't advice this anymore, unless you consider outgoing email totally optionally and not critical in any way.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1161

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

After a long search I found out what was causing multiple selection sometimes making the message list not responding anymore: accidentally double tapping a conversation. This and some other things were fixed in this release.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
You don't have to use it as production server from day1. But please have a look at the projects. They solved and or documented this. It is not 2005 anymore.

Make your own experience and maybe the world a bit more decentralized. I didn't want to suggest one over the other project, but I am using mailcow myself. Only spam issue is the damned Vodafone so called perm ip and some seldom servers with custom blocklists for these.

I run my own mailserver sunce more than 10 years and these both projects improved it a lot.

No mention worthy problems the last years.

---------- Post added at 06:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:50 PM ----------

Also everyone can get an account at some local provider. It is cheaper, hazzle free, but still costs more hard currency than selling yourself to google & co.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
These projects cannot solve the delivery problem.

"Only spam issue is the damned Vodafone": this is exactly the problem and it is structurally and does not apply to Vodafone only, on the contrary.
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
This is because I host it via cable uplink. Wouldn't be if the server would be routed via normal hosting.

Also I do have this 'problem' 2-3 mails per year.

You need to setup some dns records (copy and paste as documented), setup the interface and ready togo. I would say 2-3 days max without up-front knowledge. IF you know what you are doing 2-3h.

And to state it clearly : you HAVE TO use a real perm ip like in dedicated, hosted server. Mailserver are not for dial up.

And no, I am not related to any of these projects. I like to make the world a better place by decentralization and FOSS and for this I like to speak up for great projects offering these possibilities.

Also, I am willing to offer some support if anyone wants to try this route. Currently time and money is scarce, but maybe I can help.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=5445418]Dark_Eyes_[/MENTION] https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/156938330
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Marcel, honestly, I feel so empowered to compose mails the way I want them to look with all the formatting tools available. It forces me to write better looking mails that convey the message the way I want it to be received. I feel a bit like an artist
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1162 1.1163 1.1164

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds a new folder option (three dots menu) to show the number of starred messages in the folder list.

You can click on the number or the star to search for the starred messages in the folder.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Very nice feature:good:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I would be grateful if somebody could provide me with a T-mobile.de test account for a few days.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There appears to be lists of popular open source apps based on the number of GitHub stars.

If you like FairEmail, you might want to star FairEmail on GitHub:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/
[Android Apps and Games] Friedel25:
It works fine with expanded folder view :good:. But in compact view only a blank line is inserted and the stars are missing.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is a small bug and I will fix it in the next release.

Edit: https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/747125901153e64066b21dbeb5d5294261236a6f
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Marcel,

Thanks for this new feature.

Strange behaviour however: in compact view, this new setting displays an empty blank line; in normal view, display is correct.

And maybe the english text should be "Display starred message count".
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please see above your comment.

The text will be changed in the next release. Thanks for the suggestion.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Done :)
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
When I send an email in FairEmail, sometimes I get a screen of options (send now, send in 1 minute, etc). Other times that screen does not appear and I just get an acknowledgment that the email will be sent at xx time (3 minutes later as per my main setting).

Why does the option screen appear on some but not others?

Thank you?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The send dialog will be shown when there are send reminders, which includes sending a plain text message. This is because I received quite some questions about why images were not embedded, which is (of course) not possible in plain text messages.

You can disable send reminders in the send settings.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Just when I was motivated again to fix some bugs and improve a few things:

"Annoying ad at the top constantly telling you to buy. Offers to hide it for a week... Tick it off 48 times a year to stop it taking space... No thanks." - 1 star

No, thanks.

Ratings like this drag the average Play store rating down each and every day.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Boss u have a rating of 4.7 on the playstore here in Pakistan. Higher than any other app I know of. One idiot does not create a conclusion. Let it be, let it be. Look at what the majority is saying. Please! Please!
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION], I think the "has attachments" should apply to real attachments only, not inline attachments. Otherwise webmail and FairEmail won't show the same thing. It's my personal preference though. Where do you stand on that?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure which "has attachments" you mean.

In any case "inline" and "attachment" overlap each other.