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[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
settings > notifications > manage notifications > block all notifications.

geez

framework error , no idea.

geez
[Android Apps and Games] eloko:
Geez. Hard to understand on plain one sentence, 5 words English...

Geeezzzzzzz
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
if your asking for a more detailed explanation , which i think you are ; then click on settings , scroll till you get to "notifications". click on "manage notifications" and then move the "slider" to on (will turn green) for "block all notifications from this application". that should do it.

on the framework error message , there is a button for report issues or maybe even better get a log of the error. good luck.:)

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[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] , congrats on the over 40,000 "thanks" mark. that's a bunch of helping out!!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
About the storage access framework, please see here:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq25

About the permanent notification, please see here:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq2
[Android Apps and Games] eloko:
Geezzz...

Is factory image... And I gotta do all that for storage blah blah?

Also, I want notifications, just that constant icon showing annoying...

Geez people...

Ps. Just playing with the REAL. HELP. The rest can fo
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Thanks for all your work.

11.46 MB! Wow! I remember when it was a 6MB app. So, I must be getting twice as much app as whatever I originally paid for! ?

(Just kidding of course).

Aren't you running out of dinosaur names?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You are definitely not using a vanilla factory image because the storage access framework is a standard Android component since Android KitKat.

The earlier referenced FAQ explains how you can disable the permanent notification.

This is all real help, but things don't change by themselves.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail is packed with visible and invisible features and is still incredible small for what it offers. It won't fit in 640 KB though, lol.

http://www.faktoider.nu/640kb_eng.html

It wasn't really coincidence that I picked dinosaur names because there are plenty:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dinosaur_genera
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
edited for content
[Android Apps and Games] Stephan Windmüller:
What do you mean by "generally supported"? There are several Mail clients supporting this, either out-of-the-box (Sylpheed, mutt) or through Add-Ons (Thunderbird). There even is an implementation for K-9 Mail.

RFC 5322 has a description of the use-case. However, it is still an advanced option you will not find in clients like Outlook.

My proposal would be to add the feature, put it below the "forward" action and on first use show a warning like "Remailing an e-mail as-is could be classified as spam by the receiving mail provider. If in doubt, use [Forward]".

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The domains were not the same. Sometimes three different domains were involved: The sender, my domain, and the recipient.

Overall I used several domains and never ran into any issues.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have to support FairEmail, which is a lot of work, also due to the many questions I get, so I am not going to add this until I am reasonable sure most providers do support this. I already know that for example Microsoft does not support resending with resend headers. So it is not enough to say other apps can do this too.
[Android Apps and Games] Stephan Windmüller:
Okay, I can live with that. Thanks for taking it into consideration.
[Android Apps and Games] Utini:
I just got my Pixel 4 XL and it seems like K9 is having troubles with Android 10.

So I decided to try out FairEmail and so far it seems really nice.

There are a few things that bother me and I couldn't find anything in the options to change the behavior of FairEmail so I thought I would ask here:

1. I use two gmail account but both use my private mail servers domain/smtp. How can I change the smtp adress + login for my gmail account in FairEmail?

In "identities" I can change the smtp adress and port, but the username + password is greyed out so I can't edit it.

2. I use several mail accounts and currently, when I open FairEmail, I get a list of my accounts. As soon as I click on one it will open the account and show all it's folder (inbox,sent,spam,..).

How can I change the behavior to instantly go into the accounts inbox when clicking on one of my accounts?

3. How does FairEmail manage battery usage in situations with low signal strength or fast switching signal between Edge/3G/4G?

This was a major K9 bug that could drain the battery completely within 1 hour.

4. How is the battery usage on FairEmail in general? Is there anything in the options I can change to reduce battery drain?

It is currently the #1 app in my battery usage statistic (with a huge gap between #2).

I think that's it for now :) Thank you in advance!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If you did setup a Gmail account with the quick setup, you can't change the username and password. You can create a new identity for another SMTP server though and delete the Gmail one if you wish.

Just long press a folder in the folder list and there will be an option to add it to the navigation menu for quick access.

FairEmail will not drain your battery with an unstable internet connection.

Please see here about battery usage and where to look for the real battery usage (the Android battery statistics are quite confusing):

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq39
[Android Apps and Games] Utini:
Hey again and thank you for the quick reply!

If you did setup a Gmail account with the quick setup, you can't change the username and password. You can create a new identity for another SMTP server though and delete the Gmail one if you wish.

Under "identities" I can't create a new one. I can just edit my existing one (but not the username/password). So I guess I will have to run the wizard and add "other provider" and then use the gmail IMAP but my own SMTP?

Are there any other specific gmail settings I would need to take care about which won't be setup automatically when using "other provider" instead of "gmail"?

Just long press a folder in the folder list and there will be an option to add it to the navigation menu for quick access.

I already tried that. But with several accounts/identities this leaves me with 4x "Inbox" in my quick access. Also it would be quicker to simply click on the accoun and, instantly get forwareded to the inbox instead of opening quick access and then selecting the inbox. But I understand that there is no other workaround?

FairEmail will not drain your battery with an unstable internet connection.

So does it stop syncing and wait for stable signal?

Please see here about battery usage and where to look for the real battery usage (the Android battery statistics are quite confusing):

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq39

I already read that link (and the whole FAQ, which is greta btw!). My statistic looks like this:

#1 FairEmail with 5%

#2 Screen with 3%

#3 Android System with 2%

#4 Google Play Service with 2%

#5 Phone Idle with 2%

#6 Android OS with 2%

#7 + #8 are AccuWeather and Google Play Store with 1%

#9 Mobile network standby with 1%

So FairEmail uses the most amount of battery on my device (with only 2 gmail accounts so far). According to the FAQ this is unusual.

I already unchecked syncing all folders in my accounts except inbox,drafts,sent,all messages, trash
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Thanks - I'm still looking into this - would be helpful to know if you're using gmail or yahoo or outlook as your From or redirected to domains without any issues? I'm interested in how the servers behave.

2) The 2008 RFC example you shared would actually violate DKIM and DMARC thus causing mail to be rejected and/or treated by spam for many (most major) domains. In fact it has been superseded and the example been removed in 2013 by RFC 6854 . However the additional headers "Resent-From/To" remain valid. Neither RFC speaks to SRS, just to adding Resent-X headers. Without SRS any redirect will break SPF (at a minimum) - which may be problematic.

The later RFC speaks to using "un-replyable" From and Resent-From fields - however I suspect this is not what you want.

It would be really helpful if SRS had risen to at least a draft RFC - are you aware if that's the case? I could not find anything.

(PS I was unable to find any currently listed Thunderbird addons by searching ATN for either SRS or "Sender Rewriting Scheme" - which addon are you using?) There are a bunch for "redirect" tho ). The top search was https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mailredirect/ which clearly doesn't support SRS so this one could well be a problem - also see comments about it failing with some servers.)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Look for a big '+' button at the bottom right in the list of identities (Setup, step 2, Manage).

The navigation is account > folders > messages. Navigating from the account to one folder would make it impossible to navigate to the folders. Note that other folders can be part of the inbox too, so it is not always about the inbox. You can color code folders and change the display name of a folder to distinguish them in the navigation menu instead.

Basically, yes.

Maybe you used FairEmail the most. It is hard to say what is good and bad. Check the log (see also the battery FAQ) for what is happening.

IMHO you owe somebody excuses ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=10036357]gc01[/MENTION] see here: https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mailredirect/
[Android Apps and Games] Utini:
I did exactly this but didn't see that I could change the pre-selected "gmail" to "custom". Now it works as intended!

Well K9 had an additional icon next to the account. Clicking that icon would navigate to the folder overview, clicking on the account would navigate directly into the inbox.

I guess I will just have to get used to the FairEmail way (which is just one additional click).

I will just spy on it for a few days and add information here (or the log file). Thank you for your help so far!!

I owe somebody excuses? I don't understand, who would I need to excuse to? :o
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have used K9 mail for ages and the navigation always confused me. FairEmail has a clear and simple navigation structure: account > folders > messages

There is no extra tap needed if you add the inbox to the navigation menu as suggested.

Alternatives: long press account to go to inbox, but this is not very convenient. An icon after the account name to go to the inbox: small and therefore inconvenient. So, the best solution is IMHO an extra, optional navigation menu item.
[Android Apps and Games] Utini:
K9 works like this:

Account -> Folders -> Messages

or

Account Icon -> Messages in inbox

There is an extra tap needed because I need to open the navigation menu (extra tap) and then click on the inbox.

Identities work like a charm now. I was also able to disable the original gmail identity to only use & display my second custom identity. Really great!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Maybe you want to change the startup screen to unified folders in the display settings.

You still owe somebody an excuse ...
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
right - saw that one - doesn't support SRS and has some problem reports with microsoft.
[Android Apps and Games] Utini:
Oh.. basically unified folders is exactly what I wanted. That pretty much fixed it. Guess I will go for the Pro version then :)

And I still don't know what you mean with the excuse? You mean a favor or a thank you for your help? I really don't get what you mean with excuse :S
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am sorry, it seems I am confusing people, so no excuses required.
[Android Apps and Games] Utini:
Okay, nevermind then! Thank you for your help and thank you for FreeEmail.

I will stick with it for a few more days and if I don't notice any major inconveniences for me, I will go for the pro version :)
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
You will go to Pro anyway.

Maybe u got higher battery why fairemail starts to begin to synch all your Accounts?

Got 6 Accounts and my Android 9 (detailed full/right dots top right) battery stats looking great.

No fairemail at all.
[Android Apps and Games] eloko:
Vanilla, this is coral. To whoever asked. also, to whoever was *****ing about the help thing... You probably got it wrong.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Being wrong is no reason to be unfriendly to somebody.

Without excuses you are not welcome here anymore.
[Android Apps and Games] eloko:
Meh.
[Android Apps and Games] Stephan Windmüller:
I am sorry but here I cannot help. For more than ten years I used my own MTA on a hosted root server, so this experience will not help for most users. But I tested it with my current privacy-oriented mail provider (mailbox.org) and redirecting with Thunderbird worked as expected.

It is very likely that this feature is working right now because most domains use a SoftFail SPF record or that mail providers treat SPF fails like a SoftFail. This way it is only one of several variables which have influence on the required spam score.

You are right, the recipient should have the ability to reply just as if the message had been sent directly.

Sorry, here I cannot help. But I think the work needed to implement this in FairEmail would be in no relation to the number of users requiring such an "advanced" feature.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is not about the work needed, but about if it is useful to a significant number of people and if it works properly and not results in lots of support questions. It doesn't seem to work for Outlook, which would be a problem in itself because there are lots of people using Outlook.
[Android Apps and Games] Stephan Windmüller:
Both reduce the time you can spend on other great features for FE, so I think we can agree here. :)

How do you know if it is not working for Outlook? Did I miss a link?

When searching this thread, I only found my remark that Outlook does not offer this feature. But I was referring to the mail client Outlook, not the service outlook.com.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I guess you missed this link:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mailredirect/
[Android Apps and Games] Stephan Windmüller:
Since I was the first person mentioning it here, I sure did not miss it. But obviously I did not read the description entirely. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I made a stupid mistake in the latest release causing the notification with 0 accounts monitoring not going away, for example when you are synchronizing manually only. I will fix this tomorrow.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
public apology for those who read my post #12035.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Marcel - i'll make one last appeal. Please go back to having more frequent play store releases.

thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] Stephan Windmüller:
I second that. Daily beta updates are welcome as are weekly main updates.
[Android Apps and Games] Utini:
Bought the pro version already :)

Quick suggestion/request:

Let us change the scheduler time for each day. E.g. I would want other scheduled sync times during the week than compared to the weekend.

According to the wiki there is a way to do this via adb but a simple gui option in the settings would be nice.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can just install the GitHub version over your Play store version.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Which days are weekend depends on the culture, so this is not easy to add.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just release version 1.913

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] Stephan Windmüller:
I am using my company cell phone. Sources other than the Play Store are prohibited for security reasons.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
For me it is the other way around: sources other than the Play store are preferred for security reasons ;)

Anyway, there will soon be a new Play store release.
[Android Apps and Games] Utini:
True about differences in weekends. Maybe allowing to add 3-5 fully customizable schedulers are a good compromise?

Alarmdroid has a very easy and simple way to adding different alarms for different day-periods and times.

Basically, like in Alarmdroid, I could imagine a time frame e.g. "06:00h - 22:00h" and below you have the days that you can check for which this time frame will apply for.

In my case that could be:

03:00 - 22:00h: Mo

06:30 - 22:30h: Tu, We, Th

06:30 - 00:00h: Fr

09:00 - 00:00h: Sa, Su

Btw, regarding yesterdays battery drain conversation: It seems to have settled and be fine now. I changed a few settings as described in the FAQ and now FairEmail is on the very low end of the total battery usage!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I like to keep scheduling simple for maintenance and support reasons. If you want to use a more advanced schedule, you can use a specialized automation app to turn sync on/off, even per account.
[Android Apps and Games] fitittome:
Hi, Since the update before last (maybe Thursday or Friday last week) my e-mail widget displays and infinity symbol, whereas previously it used to display the number of unread mail. Have I missed something in the config?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Infinite means more than 99 in this case, so you have 100+ unread messages. Solution: read the messages ;)
[Android Apps and Games] fitittome:
No honest. 14 in the inbox all read. 2 unread when I check just now, one was this notification! I need to debug!

edit: I can see some javax.mail.MessageRemovedExceptions in the log. Should I resync, somehow?

edit2: It is showing 7 unread in Drafs, 115 in Sent, 665 in archive and 28 in trash. None are really unread when I check via the web browser.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
The second option under Settings / Notifications is on or off?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
So, there are more than 99 message unread.

You can pull down the message list of a folder to synchronize it.
[Android Apps and Games] fitittome:
Moi? Indeed it was off. Switched it on and all is OK! I don't think I have been fiddling there recently!

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See that answer above. It fixed the symptom of the infinite symbol and the actual number of unread in the inbox is displayed. lol Thanks for the reply though!

edit: Even though that fixed it, I was able to goto the web interface for the e-mail and use a filter, is:unread in the search box, I then selected them all and marked them as read. There were many thousands in the 'All' archive. It just tidies things up.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
This option has only been newly introduced for some time.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Not really.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Well, if he hasn't updated for a long time, he couldn't have changed it accidentally, because this option didn't exist in earlier versions.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Not sure why you choose to listen to one whiny person who should have been using released not beta rather than the active beta folks.

You also said earlier that google may not allow this at some point. And it is not as convenient as letting play store do the updates.

Whatever ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That was not the only reason: FairEmail is also slowing going into maintenance as well.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Then I suppose this forum has no further purpose.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There will always be questions and feature requests.

Please be aware that releasing takes time too, especially in the Play store.
[Android Apps and Games] eloko:
FYI, storage access framework is system files app. I had it frozen because is useless, it doesn't give you that many options, so I use FX explorer. You could add that option to use whatever you have installed. Also, I found how to remove the icon on status bar, just disable service on notifications. All this is in Android Q, January update.

I'm gone now.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Just FYI: another short review of FairEmail https://mobilsicher.de/ratgeber/fairemail-datensichere-e-mail-app-kurz-vorgestellt
[Android Apps and Games] Ines*:
Possible explanation if I am not mistaken: there was a recent change in obtaining the number of *unread* messages (your old setting) for the widget. Before, only folders with notify 'on' were taken into account, that condition was dropped.
[Android Apps and Games] fitittome:
Maybe, my use case would fit that scenario exactly. The unread items in the none-notified folders were all ancient history, so not immediately visible, or even displayed (no. against the folder) on the web interface either. Oh well, it wasn't a show stopper, I'm otherwise really happy with the way this app has developed and the support offered!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FX explorer can replace the storage access framework, if it adds support for it.

This cannot be done by FairEmail.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.914

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

[MENTION=9691440]Ines*[/MENTION] I have been in doubt what would be the right solution, but I have decided to revert the change.

[MENTION=10036357]gc01[/MENTION] this version will be available in the Play store.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
Test/beta or stable?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is no Play store test program anymore ...
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
Hmm i see still the option
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can still join, but there won't be new test versions published in the Play store test program anymore.