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[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
I wouldn't mind the font color to change (maybe bluish for dark theme and greenish for light theme) in addition to being bold, rather than the background.

Though I'm also fine with the way it is now - the bold shows up just fine (at least in dark theme).

Changing bg might make the app look a bit too busy - esp. if there are read messages in between unread.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.659

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

A colored background for unread messages is too much "bling-bling" IMHO and besides that it will conflict with multiple selection. However, using another text color is possible ;)

Reply is a main action, so this version will show a reply button if there is one message expanded.

Somebody suggested to use white cards in the light theme, which should have be done in the first place.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
The highlighted text is *too* highlighted, imo. See screenshots (original & light) with a more subtle color. Add color select option?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
The Floating Reply button should offer the same options as the Reply button in the action bar, otherwise it is not helpful in many cases.

In addition - as mentioned before - the link 'more apps' only leads to an error in the XDA forum.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Which unread text color would you suggest for the light/dark theme.

The text color is part of the themes and I like to keep it that way because there might be more themes in the future.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The floating reply button is meant as quickly reply, so IMHO there should be no choices. You can always use the reply in the action bar for less common reply actions.

I forgot about that, but it is odd that the link doesn't work. I will look into it, thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
The fast normal case of quickly reply, however, should always be that one answers all (participants). If necessary, you can still remove individual ones who should not receive the answer.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
IMHO this is a good idea, so unless there are a lot of objects, I will change this.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Thanks Marcel - will look after it comes through play store.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
OT, but...OMG Play Store search us awful! I have, literally, put in the EXACT NAME of some obscure app and it doesn't show up at top of results, if at all!! Okay, done venting.
[Android Apps and Games] gabe1977:
Using nova Launcher along with Tesla unread. When a new email comes the badge is shown but if you delete the notification the badge also dissapears and does not stay showing the number of unread messages. is that right?

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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Did you enabled "Show launcher icon with number of new messages" in the FairEmail's miscellaneous settings?

Edit: I will move this to the notification settings in the next release.
[Android Apps and Games] gabe1977:
Yes I enabled this option but It only shows when there's a new message. The badge doesnt stay showing the number of total unread. It works with other apps like Gmail, Outlook, aquamail.....

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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Can you please add the unread count widget of FairEmail to your home screen and tell me if it shows the correct number of unread messages?
[Android Apps and Games] gabe1977:
The widget does exactly the same for me. Shows 0. if a message enters it shows 1. But if I delete the notification (from the notification area) shows 0 again. Maybe It works that way. I just thought the number of unread would stay in the badge

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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is supposed to work like this. If the notification has been swiped away the message is considered to be seen. FairEmail has a separate status for unseen and unread. This is also to make it possible to swipe notifications away and still keep the messages unread.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
Firstly, I think that a highlight color is unnecessary. That being said, the 'highlight' theme colors you chose seem backwards to me. The color for the dark theme (#FFB300 according to my pixel viewer) is 'brighter' than the one for the light theme (#B27D00). The result is that the light theme (which I don't use) looks okay, but the dark theme is hard on the eyes.

I suggest a 'less bright' color, such as CCB681, for example. It serves the purpose of highlighting without being harsh in contrast.

Not sure why you linked to the FAQ. I did a page search on 'theme' and mostly saw lined-out items. Hmm
[Android Apps and Games] gabe1977:
So the badge shows unseen messages not unread?. Sorry I'm a bit confused. isn't there a way to swipe the notification and still see the number of unread in the badge? In other apps the number of unread stay and only decreases if you read or delete a message

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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.660

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

I can imaging that not everybody likes highlighted unread messages, so I have added an option for this (default disabled).

[MENTION=9502827]gabe1977[/MENTION] the widget and badge will show the number of unread messages now
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I thought the bold text for unread was perfectly adequate and similar to other apps. I will therefore not use this option.

But, if something similar for starred messages was possible that would be great! Please.....
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
The "More Apps link" works now, but there is only one infinity character on the widget here.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The infinity symbol means more than 99 unread messages.
[Android Apps and Games] gabe1977:
Now It works thanks a lot :)

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[Android Apps and Games] JJ111:
I definately don't like, that the floating button replys to all, because I often get Messages via a E-Mail distribution list. In 99,999% of all cases I just want to reply to the sender, not the E-Mail distribution list, which is added if I now click on the floating button.

Also I am afraid I might than accidentally sent the reply message to the whole list and not just the recipient.

So I would handle it like the reply button above: if there is only one, than direct reply, if several options than the possibility to choose one.

Or a toggle, so one can set the floating button to reply always only the sender (I would choose that) or to reply always to all (like a friend here on the forum would prefer).

Than all would be happy.

What do you think?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I tend to agree with this. Reply all is less common and should be done via the action bar.
[Android Apps and Games] JJ111:
Thanks.

Otherwise this might happen:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx4jQtlAh0s

???
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Well ... I don't. Reply-All is pretty much the standard default.

For non-mailing lists, it is absolutely the natural choice. For personal or business.

For lists - the default is typically the list - but this depends on how the list software is setting the replies - they all changed to accommodate dkim/dmarc etc.

So, I'd vote for the default to be reply-all as this is the better choice for the majority of likely users.

And you can always remove and recipients easily enough.

To make this a little easier, you can do what gmail does - and allow the reply-all/reply/forward button option in the compose window.
[Android Apps and Games] JJ111:
At work often a person from administration sends an Info-Mail to 50 or more colleagues. Sometimes I have a question or similar only for the sender. If I would hit the floating button with reply all, I would have to manually remove the 50 other addresses.

I think I close to never use reply all, but I believe you, that you do.

Thats why free choice in form of a toggle seems to be the solution. Than you choose "reply all" action and I choose "reply only sender"

Than we both could be happy ?

I am a big believer in free choice.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
honestly your work email is set up all wrong - they should be using mail groups - even in exchange - and the default for that kind of group is reply to specific address not group.

your case is special as your work stuff is done completely wrong.

My view of course :)

That's of course the challenge - some people like blue and others like pink. The goal is to make things reasonable and as sensible as possible for the majority use cases.

Since reply and reply-all are both very common, be nice to have simple way to pick - like I mentioned before, google provides the choice in composer between reply, reply-a and forward - that might be a nice way to go. Wherever Marcel ends up offering that choice it would be nice to be all 3.
[Android Apps and Games] steakhutzeee:
Evening :)

Is it possible to hide this Gmail "tag"?

Spoiler content hidden.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
This is just the bad habit that many people only reply to the sender, although there are many more parties involved. Especially with "normal" lists, it goes without saying that everyone involved in the conversation who has read the first mails should also know my answer.

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With the current setting, the widget is unfortunately no longer usable here, because I always have several hundred "unread" mails in all accounts and folders, so that only the infinity symbol ALWAYS appears here. Previously only the number of NEW unread mails appeared - and as soon as you deleted them from the notifications, the number went to zero. That was fine for me. Sometimes I set already read mails to "unread", so that I can notice them later on another device and work on them in peace.

---------- Post added at 06:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:40 AM ----------

If someone wants to see all the unread mails and not just the number of new ones, he can use the other widget, right?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, that is not possible because it is a parent for child folders.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The widget is supposed to show the number of unread messages.

Consider to use stars to mark messages that need attention or move the messages to a folder "to do".
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
About the reply button: I will change it back to reply sender and add long press to reply to all.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
As I said, the widget is then useless in the current configuration with my several hundred unread mails in all accounts and all folders, where then only the infinity symbol is displayed, so I will probably delete it.
[Android Apps and Games] gabe1977:
Maybe there could be a option to make the widget/badge to show only new message or to show all unread. Or maybe make the counter to show more than 99 messages and not just infinite (?)

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[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I know that I have several hundred "unread" mails in all accounts and folders, whether they are 300 or 302, does not really give any information gain. So for me only the choice - similar to the other widget - would be a reasonable solution.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am willing to add an option if you provide me with a title for a check box that is understandable for everybody.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
ALL unread mails

ONLY NEW unread mails (until they are removed in the notification)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am playing an average user: "What is the difference between all new and only new new messages?"

This is not good enough.
[Android Apps and Games] gabe1977:
Yes that's the way It is shown in similar email apps

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[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I didn't say all new ones, I said all unread ones.

---------- Post added at 09:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:57 AM ----------

For the average user, it is as logical or illogical as your "wrong" abbreviation of the translation: you can reply to the sender, you can reply to everyone, just as you can reply to the list. But you cannot reply to a template. Mine only ...
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Sometimes, by the way, the number of new (then of course unread) messages actually appears in the widget. And only after removing the messages from the notifications does this number change to the infinity symbol (where it used to change to zero). With this behavior I can live also well. :)

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And now there is zero in the widget again - just as it used to be. Very mysterious, this flexible widget behavior ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This shouldn't happen and I cannot reproduce this behavior.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] can you please send me the debug information right after zero or the number of unread messages is being shown?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This problem seem to be more a misunderstanding: the widget will show the number of unread messages in folders set to notify (with a bell icon) only.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Good Morning. Couple of comments

1) In conversation mode I see 3 basic levels : (A) Top level, List of all threads (B) List of Messages In 1 thread and (C) individual message.

When in (A) and there is only a single message clicking it takes you to (C) to view the message (skipping B which makes sense).

However if you now click "back" it should go back to (A) but it goes to (B) with a list of one message. A second click of "back" is needed to go back to (A). Please make "back" also skip (B).

2) In conversation mode, view a list of messages in thread (B) - now view one of the messages and click Reply - decide against it and press "discard" button. VIew goes back to (B) but the "discarded" draft is now added to list. it has to be deleted a second time. Please change to actually delete discarded draft.

3) card view of folders - since I use compact-view for message index the folder list still has quite a bit too much space - may I suggest compact-view apply to folders as well?
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Risks of 'Reply all'.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...2bb69e8c4e39_story.html?wpisrc=nl_buzz&wpmm=1
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Technology won't stop stupid. Anything documented in a written communication is a permanent record that can be subject to subpoena at a later date.

Standard training for use of email includes the rather obvious guidance to minimize what is put in writing and always write things in a way that you'd be comfortable seeing your email made public - including in court - and always check who you're sending to. I've seen emails going to very wrong people due to address completion and failure to check - is this a flaw with address completion? No - its a human flaw.

Anyone using email for business/work communication needs to pay a lot of attention to whom the communication is going and the content. Applies to personal too of course.

It is less about reply-all dangers and more about people's behavior. People can always do silly things.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is just a list of all conversations and a list of messages of a conversation, so not three levels.

Messages in a conversation can be collapsed and be expanded. Pressing back will collapse a single message, which can be disabled in the behavior settings.

Deleting a message will first move messages to trash. Trashed messages will be shown in conversations, so you can easily find it back when you changed your mind. Maybe there should be a setting to disable this.

I already compacted the folder view in the most recent version. More is reasonably not possible.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Agree. Just pointing out an interesting recent story.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Based on the comment of [MENTION=10036357]gc01[/MENTION] I think drafts should to be permanently deleted on discard instead of being trashed. Are there any objections to this?
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Agree.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
In principle, trashing instead of deleting should be followed for all messages.

One could argue the reasons are equally valid for drafts too. Consistency of logic should stay unless you have an overwhelming reason
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
If you start a mail, but then look for an additional info in another app, the started mail is saved as a draft. But this draft will not be deleted permanently, because you want to continue with the mail and not write it all over again, right?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In fact this is why it is as it is now.

Maybe trashed messages should not be displayed in conversations.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Sounds reasonable
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
In netguard you can make a one-time purchase as well as a regular, monthly financial support. Even though the latter is probably hardly ever done, are there other reasons why the FairEmail app doesn't provide this as well?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
As you say, this is hardly done, so I have omitted this for now to keep things simple.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.661

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
For me, a discarded message never has been a message, so it can be deleted instead of 'saved' in the trash can. If i want to get out of the message I'm composing and come back to it later, there is a button for that: Save draft. I don't think I have ever wanted to dig up a discarded draft from the trash ever.

On the other hand, trashed messages being shown in the conversation list has often saved my butt. That's why I want to keep that like it is. But discarded drafts that appear in that list only confuse me.

If you decide to keep trashing discarded drafts and not to display trashed messages in the conversation, at least there should be a warning message: 'This conversation contains trashed messages. Do you want to show them? Yes/No' at the top of the list.
[Android Apps and Games] Hiroo Onoda:
I like the floating reply button and the short press > reply to sender / long press > reply to all works great. Now that we have this, the reply button on the message action bar is useless, right? How about you replace it with another action from the menu, like forward?
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Using rules to snooze

Hi,

I want to snooze my mail on my office account from friday 18:00 til sunday.

The intuitive way for me was to create 3 rules:

* friday 18:00 - 00:00

* saturday the whole day

* sunday the whole day.

I checked the option "until the end of the time condition". The rules in this chain will be processed one after the other.

This did'nt worked!

Reason "until the end of the time condition" and "the action will be applied to new messages arriving.."

Messages arrives on saturday where not snoozed on sunday anymore.

So how can I achieve this?

Should rules not better be applied on unread messages for snooze?

PS: FE is now now almost complete lag free for me. Really GREAT WORK!!!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The reply in the message action bar can how more actions like reply with template or reply to list.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Since the opinion on this seems to vary, I could:

choose to always trash drafts (current behavior)

choose to always permanently delete drafts

add a global option to permanently delete instead of trash drafts

add an extra choice to the confirmation question "Delete permanently"

Voting starts now ;)
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Reply - mailing list

I got a mail from a mailing list with

From: personal sender's email

To: mailing list email

Reply-to: mailing list email

If I reply to "sender" the mailing list email is used. If I reply to "all" the mailing list email is used twice

There is no way to reply to personal sender's email.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
How to achieve this is a good question. I will think about this.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Since there is a "Reply-To" header, you should not reply to the sender.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Sometimes I exchange confidential information with people on the mailing list to help directly.

It would be nice if you don't get patronized by the mailing/FE list who you reply to.

Replying to all will generate a mail with 2 identical receivers namly the reply-to address. This should'nt be.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is what the standard says about Reply-To headers:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4021#section-2.1.4

I could add another menu item to reply to the original sender, but this could lead to mistakes and confusion.

Edit: this standard is more specific: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc822#section-4.3

"The "Reply-To" field is added by the message originator and is intended to direct replies."

and

"If the "Reply-To" field exists, then the reply should go to the addresses indicated in that field and not to the address(es) indicated in the "From" field."
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Problems should be addressed at the root, so if a trashed message should not be part of a conversation, it should not be there in the first place.
[Android Apps and Games] Hiroo Onoda:
One tiny imperfection I wanna mention is that when using the 'go to bottom' and 'go to top' buttons in message view, there is a bouncing effect in that the screen slightly jumps back towards the direction it came from, then stops. Not a big deal and maybe that's an Android thing which you can't remedy, but I find it looks unclean and sloppy.

Sorry if this has been addressed before.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This effect was deliberately added so at least something happens when you are already at the top or bottom.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Ok, but should "replay to all" not include the sender's email address like in k9?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Reply all is supposed to be to the sender or to the reply-to address plus cc addresses.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I will only vote for my solution:

· a global option to permanently delete or trash *discarded* drafts, plus

· a global option to display or hide trashed messages in conversations.

I think that will suit all, although I can get used to any other solution.
[Android Apps and Games] Hiroo Onoda:
Fair enough, even though I don't see how this is actually useful. If you intend it to be some sort of visual feedback so the user knows that the buttons are working, I think the supposed gain is outweighed by how odd it looks. If you must keep it, could it at least be programmed in a way that it only bounces back when one is actually at the top or bottom, respectively?
[Android Apps and Games] styr:
This solution seems the right one to me too.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
In regards to structure:

There is a slight annoyance in how back button is handled.

It cycles back to every area visited on app, instead of going back one / up one , that is.

So, if you use drawer to navigate to different areas withoit clicking back button, once you start clicking back button you go to each place again. This makes exiting with back button take longer than intended
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
I can't add Yahoo as a provider using imap.mail.yahoo.com port 993 I get "IDLE not supported" when clicking on OK
[Android Apps and Games] nrlnd:
Any chance we will see openkeychange pgp support in this mail client?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Added to to do list, but this is not a promise it will actually be added.
[Android Apps and Games] Rekesz:
Hi Marcel,

I've used Xprivacy and am using XPrivacyLua at the moment. I'm very interested in using this client and will probably switch to posteo or mailbox from ProtonMail. I just have one question (which is open to everyone). I can see on the abovementioned providers' sites that they have many security layers implemented, is the same security present in this app as well? Haven't really dealt with this topic before so even if you point me to an article I'll do the rest myself.