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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I won't stop with the project, but it is pretty frustrating to see so many one star ratings for something not caused by the app :-(
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1737 will crash, there is a new release underway. Sorry for the inconvenience.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
This too shall pass.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
This is normal, people are dumb and blame everything they don't understand for things they can't control themselves, because they don't understand them.
[Android Apps and Games] 30jp:
Hey,

I have a question about attachments.

When I take a photo and share it with Fairemail, I get the option to remove private sensitive (GPS) information and adjust the size of the photo.

However, when I start to create an email and add a photo as an attachment, I don't get that option.

Now it may be that I have a setting wrong or that it is not possible this way.

It's not a big problem, but do miss it. Greetings
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Try to use the image button instead of the attachment button and make sure the image options are enabled in the three dots menu.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Whether this is normal is debatable, unless the general consensus is that mankind should be stupid.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
It shouldn't be like that, but you can't educate people that don't want to be educated.
[Android Apps and Games] 30jp:
Well, I actually knew that I was doing something wrong and that it was processed in Fairemail. Sorry to bother you on this sunny Sunday. Greetings
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
That is excellent news.

Unfortunately most internet users are very ignorant and have a long history of blaming the wrong thing when there are problems. Like in the late 90s, when Microsoft's Internet Explorer was by far the most used web browser, and lots of people who knew nothing about HTML etc started using Microsoft's desktop-publishing-like web page authoring program (what was it? Dreamweaver?) to create web pages because they just used a WYSIWYG interface and that program then generated the HTML code. Not knowing anything about HTML they had no idea that the program generated the most appalling HTML mess, including a bunch of tags etc that were not normal HTML, and in some cases were wrong HTML, but Internet Explorer - only - was made specifically to render the output of their own horrible web page authoring program. So all those web pages ONLY worked in Internet Explorer, and broke in competing browsers, as a deliberate tactic by Microsoft who knew that all the ignorant users would blame the competing browsers rather than the hideous Microsoft web page authoring tool. It was dreadful, but a nasty successful tactic by Microsoft that drove a number of otherwise very good browsers (for the time) out of business despite being much better than Internet Explorer. Sadly it's something very tempting to companies who gain a dominant position, and Google have started playing that game with Chrome.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
A week ago I went into the US playstore to look for 1 star reviews to downgrade them. Frankly I had trouble by just scrolling down to find any which were not 5 stars! So to find them I finally resorted to pre-selecting the reviews to only show one stars and then downgraded those.

I think other developers would kill to have your reviews. Like several others have written it is impossible to please everyone in anything. The overwhelming consensus is that your app is brilliant.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Much of mankind _is_ stupid. That is a fact.

Reminds me of an American radio show that took place in a town where "all the women were beautiful and all the children were above average".....

Stupid people are what allow calculating averages. Actually, many are not really stupid. They may have doctorates in Dutch literature or Renaissance art but don't know anything much about computers. Most people that use computers know very little beyond the minimum. That's why Apple is so successful. Their products 'just work' and the user needs very little knowledge to use them. CEOs of multibillion companies usually cannot fix their computers. That's why they have tech support departments.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't expect everybody to be computer expert. What is frustrating is that people don't ask for help and just run for the 1 star button.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Is it really V 1.1737 which crashs? Because in the changelog is written that this version fixes the crash.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1737 is okay. I need a break.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
You need to worry less about your app. Relax a bit more.
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
It's a sad reflection of the way so many now want and expect instant gratification and don't feel they should have to put any effort into anything, coupled with the vast number of apps presented - most of them junk or clones - for any search for anything in the store, and the ease and speed with which people can add or remove apps. Then add to that the social media obsessions with instantly reacting to things with likes, thumbs up and downs, and this is what we get. Let's try this one ... ooh, I don't understand that instantly so one star, uninstall, install the next, repeat. Whereas I don't do any of Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok, 'likes' etc at all, and know enough about things like emails, POP3, IMAP, SMTP etc, if I install an email program or app and it doesn't appear to have things to dig into and learn, lots of settings to explore and configure, I immediately know it;'s not going to be good enough for my needs. Then again, I spent my evenings in the late 90s helping other users of a minority OS (Acorn's RiscOS) that the main ISPs couldn't provide support for get their internet connections up and email (and newsgroup software - we were big on newsgroups back then) applications working. Spent quite a lot of time telneting to ISP mail and newsgroup servers and conducting mail and news sessions by hand, typing the commands and looking at the replies to find out why the applications for our OS weren't wworking with whichever ISP, and even querying the mail servers for their settings and jumping through hoops to 'escalate' the problem high enough past the customer service drones with zero tech knowledge to the actual engineers to let them know the servers were configured incorrectly. So ... I'm not exactly an average email app user.

But frankly the 1 star 'it don't work' review idiots are people who do not need and frankly can't cope with an app as fully featured and configurable as FairEmail anyway. It's just a pity that their reflexively trained instinct to 'thumbs down' from social media means they can't help star rating on their way out rather than leaving quietly.
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
Suggestion: dynamic auth error Messages instead of statically implemented ones. See

Outlook WTF · M66B/FairEmail@657962c

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - Outlook WTF · M66B/FairEmail@657962c

github.com

So instead of the fixed condition throwing an exception, you could read a file from your GitHub repo containing an up to date list in case of some error and then dynamically throw the corresponding error.

Upside: you can dynamically set a touple of provider and error. It does not require an app-update to display an error message or to get rid of an out of date error message.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The idea is good, but Google will remove the app from the Play store for this.
[Android Apps and Games] famusc:
Hi, how does the "auto optimize" option in receive settings work? I expect it to keep account always in sync on work hours, and maybe switch to 15 minuts on off hours, but it's not actually working like this.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please see here about what auto optimize does

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq39
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I like to know if saved searches are useful to you and how you use them. I will extend the FAQ about searching later today and some real life examples might be useful.
[Android Apps and Games] O_DoC:
I used save search when looking for something cross (two or more) folders/labels and do not want (yet) to create/change the current structure.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
I use saved search to find important emails which I need again and again.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Hi Marcel, I did a search by activating the checkbox starred (as you advised me). But the checkbox is ignored at all.

The shortcut (clicking on the star) is working perfectly. Could you please double check the code?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
My guess is that you are using the search index. Please read the text below the on/off switch for searching via the search index.

The next version will visually clarify this by low lighting the server-only options.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Silly question: What is to do for saving a search in FE?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please see this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq13

tl;dr; there will be a save button in the top action bar after searching. At the same place there will be a delete button when using a saved search.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If you are adventurous, you could install version 1.1739d.

This version adds importing vCards into the local contacts database (send options, manage, three-dots overflow menu) and is supposed to reduce working memory usage. Please be aware that this version might crash. In this case you can install the "regular" version 1.1739 as an update again.

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Thanks, I misunderstood this button ... ;-)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If you are adventurous, you could install version 1.1739c (a crash was fixed).
[Android Apps and Games] O_DoC:
Just to notice (really not important though)

The 'about' still told ''1739a'' after installed the ''c'' version.

And more important : everything look good "as.usual" : )

Do you need some specific tests / feedbacks ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I forgot to update the "letter" version (which is new BTW). Next time ...

Just use the app and report any problem you encounter as usual.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
So now even XDA has found out about this OAuth bug, through an external forum 🤔

Outlook users are having issues with email apps, but there's a workaround

Users with Outlook accounts have been having issues syncing email with third-party clients. and a brolen OAuth certificate is to blame.

www.xda-developers.com
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Maybe someone suggested an article, it could have been me ;-)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a "d" version available on Github now.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Again a question to the search. I would like to search a folder incl it's subfolder together with other information like a string or a star.

If I write the folders name into the search box this don't works. Is this already possible or is it a feature request?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can search for messages only, not folders. The folder name will be shown in the found messages.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1740 1.1741 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

To find and fix any crashes quickly, please enable error reporting in the miscellaneous settings.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A new Play store voting round would be appreciated ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
From today on I won't provide personal test versions to fix specific problems anymore, which means you'll need to wait until the next GitHub update, even if your house is on fire. The reason is that there was a bad Play store review because the app connects to GitHub now (which is to check for updates and which won't happen in the Play store version). This kind of things are pretty frustrating because I have tried to help somebody here with a specific problem :-( Not anymore!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am going to limit the time I am spending on this project. The app will keep being maintained and supported, but new features, even smaller ones, will have low priority.

I do my best to make this a perfect app, but some of the Play store reviews are pretty frustrating and demotivating. This is not good enough given the goal of the project to help people protect their privacy. I know there are a lot of happy people as well, but the group of ignorant and demanding people seems to be larger by the day.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The bad review about connecting to GitHub got even up voted, WTF.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
It's almost the weekend Marcel. Power off your phone, shutdown your laptop, take off your Mi band, take your partner away for the weekend to the beach, countryside, wherever you like. And Enjoy!!Forget about FairEmail for the next couple of days ( like you said) even if our houses catch fire!Seriously!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1745 has been released in the Play store and will be publicly available after Google's approval.

As said, I will keep maintaining and supporting the app, but new features will be postponed unless they are useful for myself.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
You're a good man and a superb developer. Fairemail is perfect already.

Enjoy your weekend.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1746 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program, which might take longer than usual because Android Auto support was enabled (it was already available in the GitHub version).

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Background: I got a new car today which supports Android Auto.

Edit: related FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq165
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
As of today Outlook/OAuth works again. It took Microsoft a week to fix this. Please keep this in mind when using an Outlook account ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Related to Android Auto and your privacy: Google Maps is used by default and Google will know where you go and went. My advice is to use OsmAnd instead. Android Auto integration is ongoing.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A documented reason why privacy friendly apps are pretty important:

Android, iOS apps bad for privacy, study finds

Plus 'widespread potential violations of US, EU, UK privacy law' as an added bonus

www.theregister.com

None of my apps contain any tracking library!
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Hi Marcel, what about buying fairmail from the play store? Isn't there a tracking

possible via Google play services?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
As the article says: Google can track 100% of the apps. You can prevent this only by removing all Google services from your device (by using something like LineageOS).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have tried to release FairEmail with Android Auto support in the Play store. The result was a policy violation:

"App category not permitted - At this time, we are only accepting apps within the Media, short form Messaging, or categories supported by the Android for Cars App Library."

So, I was forced to released a new test version 1.1747 in the Play store (and on GitHub) without Android Auto support, which might take seven days to be approved. That's nice if a critical bug needs to be fixed now ...
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
If you think about it, driving is not really compatible with mail reading. That's why they accept only short form messaging apps compared to mail apps managing "long messages".
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't disagree, but still quite a few people asked for this ...
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
All my emails are gone. What the ****.

Fairmail don't shows any email, The inbox seems to be empty. No directories are there. The setup wizard tells me that I shall setup a new identity. Hae? Any help on this?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It seems that the app data is gone or damaged.

Did you force stop the app? Do you use a virus scanner?

Force stopping might result in data loss, there is also a warning about this. Virus scanners are know to force stop apps too, without warning you ...

Which device with with Android version are you using? Some Android versions kill apps too:

Don’t kill my app!

Hey Android vendors, don’t kill my app!

dontkillmyapp.com
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
No, I didn't force stop the app. I dont use a virus scanner.

I use an Oppo x2 find pro. How can I restore the data? Some data like saved search is there, but it dont show any result. How can I restore the data? Is it possible that there is a problem on server side?
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
I restored the account via the wizard but it shows up with a different identity. The old identity which is not working any more is still there.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The only server is the email server of your email provider. If the database got corrupted, which it looks like, the data can't be restored, other than downloading from the email server again.

Your best choice is to set up the account again with the quick setup wizard.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If there was still an identity, I don't think there was a problem with the data.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Ok, I did, but a new identity is shown up. The old is still there. There are saved searches which dont works any more. How can I get rid of all these stuff?

Furthermore a further identity which I used for sending sometime is gone as well. Arrrgh. What happens here. I have a 4 weeks old backup on another phone. Is it worth to restore it from there?
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Everything is gone.

E. G. Delayed messages, coloring of folders, colors of stars. In my opinion the user needs to know about data loss can occur to me have a regular backup in place.

arrrrggggh
[Android Apps and Games] alawiggle:
You have 18,000 reviews with a 4.8 rating - it's one of the highest ratings I've seen in the play store and you're complaining because not EVERY single person is complimenting what a great app it is.

I liked the idea of the app so I gave it a try but the thing ended up consuming my battery like crazy with default settings. I I was on a custom rom and kernel so I chalked it up to that but I've tried again on a stock phone and it's the same thing.

So I left a review, one-star, because the app is pretty much useless for me at that point. The funny thing is I KNEW you'd respond to it because you respond to EVERY negative review with reasons why its not your fault it's the reviewers fault. And you did respond, almost immediately with reasons why I was to blame.

I'm not some "the customer is king" type of person but the way you interact with people who have criticism is ridiculous. There's 900+ pages of you whining in this thread about how stupid people are that don't understand your program. Why should anybody have to spend hours fine tuning settings and figuring out the weird quirks of your app when they can just install something that works immediately?

Your app is extremely clunky looking and nothing is obvious about it - the first emails that even showed up just showed some nonsense error about memory blocks with no explanation. It wasn't even loading new emails for me at one point, seemed to have just given up.

If you don't want to deal with the criticism just take the app off the play store or stop working on it - or maybe realize you're app has a GREAT review store with thousands of reviews and you don't need to take every bad review as a personal attack. Seeing how you complain in this thread about reviews and asking people for good reviews who even knows how many of those five star weren't given because you asked.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am sorry that this happened to you, but I have no idea what happened. Data loss like this is pretty unusual. Not to worry you, but this could be the result of a technical problem. This is very rare, but not impossible. Just take care that you make a backup of important data and let's hope this is just an isolated incident.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Maybe I am oversensitive, on the other hand I am also pretty helpful.

Battery usage is atypical and there is mostly a proper explanation for it and I will always look into it and give advise about how to fix it. From what you describe, you are looking at the time on the foreground, which is not the same as actual battery usage.

The interface of the app is based on a lot of feedback, which is one of the reasons why this thread is long. It isn't the same as the Gmail app though, which is pretty feature less.

So, why don't you give me a chance to help you?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I think my perfectionism needs to be used for something else than FairEmail.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1748 1.1749 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
You have to admit that if the program malfunctions, the likelihood that it's you, your configuration or your hardware is very high when the same program works fine for thousands of other users.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
@topcaser I have found an explanation for your problem (folders deleted). This was being caused by an error while synchronizing the folder list, probably due to losing the (internet) connection. The previous version already had a fail safe to prevent the folder list from being cleared and the just released version 1.1749 fixes the error handling for this case.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
@Licaon_Kter can you please take care that the latest version will be build by F-Droid? See my previous comment about why.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Good to hear. But why is it me who ran into that corner case? Rhetoric question. Which versions of fairmail were affected?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This commit is to blame:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/6ce4ddb4741cd622db0fbe51a045e26f9c3fc0db

Which means version 1.1743 up to and including 1.1746, which includes the latest public Play store, which was updated today for this reason.
[Android Apps and Games] alawiggle:
By that logic since gmail works fine for *millions* of users I might as well just use that and not give it a bad review. Or I could call it "featureless" like OP.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Why don't you give the app a chance and ask for support if you have a question? I won't let you down, guaranteed.

Rating 1 star is easy, but developing an app like this isn't.

If you think that there are only perfect apps in the Play store, I am sorry to disappoint you. For example the Gmail app doesn't support push messages and the Outlook app will be slow and crash when there are too many folders.

Please give people a chance as you would like to have chances yourself too.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1751b is available on GitHub now.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

There won't be an update notification for this "b" version.

In the account settings (via manual setup in the main setup screen) you can set a category. This will be used as group header when listing accounts and unified folders. Accounts/folders without category will be sorted at the top and the rest on category name, with an exception for the primary account, which will be sorted on top always.

I am using this to group accounts on personal, business and testing.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1751c supports account categories for the unified inbox too.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Note that accounts, unified folders and messages in the unified inbox without account category will be sorted at the top. This means you can categorize accounts "secondary" or similar and let the other accounts, folders or messages appear at the top.