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[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Ok, using the new 1.1 DZO released today, here are some comparisons to the prior 1.1.

Problems:

1. Market: worked in previous version (able to download), now I can access, browse, but when I attempt to dl I get a error saying "the process android.process.media has stopped unexpectedly. please try again." Have restarted multiple times, same problem.

2. Pictures: when trying to choose a personal picture as wallpaper, I get the same error as in #1. It repeatedly tries to load my pictures, and the error keeps cycling and I can't get out of it without a restart. Interestingly, I can browse my storage card pictures from the pic browsing program at times with no problem, other times I get the same error; intermittent.

3. Camera: taking a pic, I get the same above error.

4. Dialing and calls work fine, cant get a conference call started; it appears that everything works as you click the buttons and add a caller, but the speaker goes dead and you can't hear anything and the two parties cannot hear you.

3. The usual: still awaiting bluetooth (clicking the start bluetooth button gets the blue light flashing, though), GPS; when these work, I will have few reasons to keep going back to win mo.

Pros:

1. Storage card back to working!

2. As previously mentioned, all browsing actions much smoother. Web browser is now very usable, provides good browsing experience that can rival opera; very fast browser.

3. Calendar, contacts sync working great.

Anyone know if there is a fix for the android.process.media error? This is a great build, very usable, if this error gets fixed this will be very stable. I am beginning to salivate about the possibility of having a fully functional android with GPS and bluetooth . . . Thx DZO and others, keep up the work you are appreciated.

Edit1: I get the android.process.media error on start-up. clearing it, android still functions with all of the above.

EDIT2: after 4 restarts, I was forced to re-enter my google name and pass. After doing this, Market works! Accessing pics with no errors . . . maybe google info needed to be reset; whater, just happy it works!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Could you put it on youtube? I really dont want install qt on my netbook and download a file, but would like to see. It would also give the phone more exposure, possibly luring in some additional developers to keep this momentum going. I am a full convert myself. Unbelievable what you smart folks have achieved!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zakkain:
This new 1.1 release is great, and don't think I'm not amazed by your work, dzo - but is there a new cupcake build coming soon as well? One with market and google mail/calendar working? I really love the on-screen keyboard and despite the great progress you're making on 1.1 (honestly, its sweet), I can't help but wanting cupcake to catch up to it in terms of features.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Used android for the last two days (latest 1.1). Have to switch back to win mo for everyday use. I can live without GPS and bluetooth, but it is the battery drain that is killing me. Turning of Toga internet connection isn't a great option, because it seems that anytime I turn it off, if a longer period of time comes before I turn it back on, it never reconnects, and I have to reboot. After rebooting, I have to re-calibrate my screen, set my max programs to 4, start Toga; it gets frustrating after a while. Keep up the strong work, I think battery stability (at least for me; others?) is the largest barrier to everyday use.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Homeylarry:
can anything be done to the initial build to prevent this much battery drain?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Are you sure you are using the the correct panel type and sleep mode, for me android uses no more power than wince. If you keep the network on, then it should last more than a day, with it off it should go at least a few days (obviously depending how much you use the phone).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
currently using panel type 3, and sleep mode 1 on my vogue; what are you using dzo? I am definitely not getting a half day with moderate use.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] moekind:
how do u know what panel type you have?

I have a bell vogue

& how exactly do i edit the default.txt file to

change my panel type?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
open the default.txt file using your txt editor of choice. the last bit of text contains values for sleep mode and board panel type. You can try converting default-vogue.txt to replace default.txt (just rename to replace, or type the new name in haret). On my sprint vogue, board panel has to be set to 3 to avoid the white screen of death at startup. Sleep modes that I've tried are 0 and 1, both of which seem to work fine. Search and read earlier in the thread for others experiences.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
this is my first time trying android so ill try to keep up reading this thread... i downloaded the latest 1.1 version (stable) and it booted and runs great

two questions regarding my experience

1. the keyboard is glitchy when i type, is this normal?

2. i used togga and it says that internet is connected but i cant access anything that uses the net, any suggestions?

thanx
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
regarding battery life, 0 is the sleep mode for best life/ Be sure that you are getting a blinking red light when the screen is off, if it is green then you need to uninstall some programs that may be acting up or restore a backup of data.img. I have this problem and usually restore a back up around once a week. I was originally working with an old data file from a previous build but have just this weekend gone with a fresh data.img from the 1.1 zip file on martins site. I'll let you know if this solves the random sleep problems I've been experiencing. FYI: when everything is running right, the numbers above stating battery life similar to or better than winmo seems to be accurate.

Cheers!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Thx, I've switched from using 1 to 0 for sleep mode, will run for a few days of normal use and see how it goes.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
1. normal - cupcake version has better keyboard, but other problems - read more of forum to learn differences

2. hmm; have you signed in to google sync services? who is your service provider?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Bug, don't know if this has been posted: screen unlocks when the camera button is pressed.

As an aside, anyone know how to disable the low battery warning?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zakkain:
Yesterday the android.zip file (latest cupcake build) was last updated a while ago - but today it shows it was last updated very recently - 20th of April.

Is there a brand new Cupcake build as well as 1.1 build, dzo? Or am I insane?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
I typed the wrong command and made a cupcake build with the latest kernel, it should work so I've left it there but the system.img is just the old one.

There's a new kernel with much better usb and no keyboard glitches there now too.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] imfloflo:
The cupcake version work for me.

Which driver should we use to install "Android Phone" under Seven/vista ? Cause i have a HTC G1 and the modified driver but they don't seems to work with my Polaris and your files.

With this version android-20-04-09.zip my phone was detect but impossible to install good driver.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] radem205:
hey dzo, is it possible to integrate the new cupcake version (SDK1.5) into your files? And do you know if the google services will work with this new SDK? I ask this because we (polaris users) doesn't have a working sofkeyboard yet and I like the google services on your version.

thanks for your answer!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Does this mean that the 1.5 cupcake now can get calls during data sessions? Last time I checked (which is about every morning and throughout the day :)) There were still some issues with this. I look forward to the upgrade but was holding off until the data / call issue was sorted out, as 1.1 works a treat for my needs, I dont mind the blue keyboard... iphone users are awaiting OS 3 just to get landscape keyboards ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Great point, the battery status fluctuates so much that I get a low battery warning and still run half a day with the phone. Is it possible to change the threshhold or remove it altogether?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
thanx for the reply, i got the internet working by placing my user id in the txt. file so im good there

just curious, is there a way to manage your processes, i noticed there isnt an option to close apps by default, but i did see a task manager in marketplace that closes apps but had to be able to root, do we fall into that category??

i read somewhere that you can edit how many processes can be open at a time, i believe the default was 6, i dont remember.... where can i edit this setting if its true...?

thats pretty much it for now.... except that googlemaps wont detect my location via gps but ill look around for a fix soon if there is one (not that important in my case)

any suggestions appreciated, thanx all for this dream project!!! i cant believe i havent tried this earlier

EDIT: found this regarding to tasks count

and found out that GPS still doesnt work so im good here...

thanx again!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
my camera takes pictures but only in such low lighting that its useless. An older image update had the camera perfect. I have the latest updates, can anyone shed some light on this?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
same here, the view while taking pics are scambled so you cant see anything...

anyone know how to increase in-call volume?? cand find the setting for it...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] htctoucher:
anyone know why when i try to run haret.exe the screen just flashes white?

using 1.1 by the way (or tryin)

edit.. nevermind i see i should try changing to type 3

thanks for all the great work!

much smoother than wm :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Panel type could be wrong, use 0 if you don't know the panel type. The other reason for this would be if you had an elf and not a vogue.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] htctoucher:
yeah thanks got it to work on 3.. it was on 0 i think

man this thing is cool, but winmo just has more features.. and seems oddly easier to use especially for multi tasking

also this killlled my battery

but great work as i said before.. really cool!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
no idea, been wondering this too. anyone have intermittent luck with togga? works on reboot most of the time, after being off for a while (hours), try to get a connection, and it never connects?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
email, yes.

alarms, dont know but i believe so

actually everything gets saved, apps, call logs, contacts etc.

there is a task manager in marketplace that costs a buck but you can go to developer tools, developer settings and change the max amount of processes open at a time to prevent all your apps open eating your resources
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
i got a question, what directory must i make so it reads my music?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Hi dzo,

What is the current status of the possibility of having bluetooth running on our vogue? GPS? Does it still look like GPS is a never, and bluetooth a far-fetched maybe? Just trying to gauge what to hope for in the future. Thanks for all of your work (you too f00bar, and others).

BTW, keyboard now much more usable in today's release. Thx.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Using 1.1, for me it picks up all the music on my storage card. I place all my music in /Storage Card/My Documents/Music/, but this does not seem to matter.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
The exposure algorithm is a bit crap so it takes ages to adapt to the light and without the preview you can't see what it's doing but in the end it should work in bright light. I'll have a look at fixing the preview when I have some time, it's caused by not having 320x240 resolution now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Volume control in the market has a setting for voice, haven"t tried it but it may work. Let us know how it works out.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Sound Manager works great. Find it in Market.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
I get that as well. I seem to have the most luck when I start IE in Winmo before booting Android. I used to have the connection die after leaving it on, say, overnight but have not experienced this with the later builds. Hopefully 1.5 and the new "modem" we may have a more robust data connection app...even though togga works for the time being and I am grateful to have data access!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Using 320x480 resolution on my vogue (in default.txt); 320x428 works perfectly, however was missing some of bit of the bottom of some programs. With 320x480, tiny bit of scrunch on the screen, but I can see everything on those programs that were cut off at the bottom of the screen.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
This won't work, the in call audio is supposed to be controlled by a userspace android library that hasn't been implemented yet. Until this is done you can't change the volume (or enable speakerphone).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] browningj:
Sorry in advance for the dumb question, but how would one go about combining dzo's new cupcake release and f00bar's release as it seems like there are really strong points with each one.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Actually, I now prefer the blue keyboard to the cupcake keyboard. It is now more accurate, does less of the screen jumping thing. Still get occasional jumps to the wrong place on the page when typing too fast, but much improved in this respect as well. Great work dzo.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Thanks for the insight. I was wondering about speakerphone a few pages previous to this. I thought all the pieces were there, but apparently not.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
awesome! looking forward to it, thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] a_mi_dis:
I have a HTC Touch from Verizon (XV6900) and I managed to run android on it...

It currently has a 1.60.30 Radio and I want to update the radio to 3.42.50... how do I do that? I need a detailed tutorial on how to do it because I don't want to mess up the phone...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
im having a problem with my media files, i was managing my folders cuz it would not read all my music (it only read just one folder in my music directory and my ringtones folder) and now it wont display my pictures or all my music besides what i mentioned... it just flashes the window and disappears in pic viewer...

i tried media scan in dev. tools but it wont work...

any suggestions? im on 1.1
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
You have to change the app process limit back to unlimited when viewing photos.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zakkain:
Anyone else having an application force close error when you try to sign into google services (latest 1.1)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
thank you that fixed the pictures

any suggestions on the music issue?

my folders are like this... root/ my documents/ my music/ **albums divided by folders**

and it only reads one of the album folders under that directory which i have like 7 more which doesnt want to find them for some reason

and my ringtones in root/ my documents/ my ringtones is also read

EDIT: never mind, i fixed it!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
I've noticed that with the current 1.1 (apr 20) I can change the screen brightness in settings>Display, by moving the slider all the way to the right, and then sliding back down. This sticks only until the phone sleeps, and then it is back to full brightness the next time the phone is unlocked. Is there any way to make this stick so I only have to change each reboot maybe, or is this not possible with the current 1.1? TIA
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Sublimeinlife:
This is my first post but i have read the entire thread and such.

I'm running 1.1 and With the newest kernel (4/20) i have lost the ability to use the use the internet. Togga says its connected but no apps will connect for me

I also have the screen brightness problem like the poster before me

If someone has any idea of how to fix this i would much appreciate it as for now i am switching back to the old kernel but i will miss the keyboard being so nuce
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Soft resetting a few times usually fixes this problem. If it remains after multiple soft resets, sometimes the data.img or other files get corrupt. Restore them from the original, and start up again. You do not need to roll back if you did have the internet working in this latest release.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
what i did is imput my account username in the default.txt in the empty space after ppp username (exp: *****@sprintpcs.com, its under settings/system/device info) and make sure you have a connection established before booting android. after that just toggle on and off with Togga
[Touch CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
I made a card with Android and some good apps for a buddy who has the vogue, but on Verizon (Irun Android on Sprint). I know that there are issues with data and what not if your not up to the latest radio version, but is there a reason why he would get a black screen after running Haret? Is the panel type the same for Verizon as with Sprint (3)? Does the phone need to be unlocked first? Mine was already unlocked and running a custom ROM prior to me getting into the Android thing, so I'm not sure about this dependency.

Thanks in advance. I'm trying to increase our user pool...and he is an old-school linux guy, so maybe he could help in development ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Sublimeinlife:
Hey guys thanks for the input, a few soft resets did actually fix the problem, and i neglected to mention im on verizon so i didnt need to edit the defaut.txt thanks again
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zkush:
i was able to run the cupcake version, but when i try 1.1 it wont boot. the screen just turns white.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Looks like the latest kernel is broken for panel_type=0, you need to set it to the correct value.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
i havent tried cupcake yet cuz its said that it has many bugs still

anyone care to tell me what still needs to be done in that project to make it useable like 1.1??
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zkush:
how do i set it to the right value?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
Open the default.txt file, find the panel value (board_panel something), change it from 0 to 3. save it. If 3 doesn't work, or you don't have a vogue, trial and error from 1 to 3 until you find one that works.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] magicalan:
i have not cheked this threat in a while and i wanted to know

If there's ever gonna be a rom for android?

Thanks. :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
I'm trying to automatically detect the panel type, can you try the latest kernel and see if it detects your panel. Get the latest kernel and boot with board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 and mddi_client_vogue.vsync=0. Then open the terminal in dev-tools and type:

dmesg | grep anel

If it works it should say "Panel type set to X", where X is your panel type, if not it will say "Unknown panel type r1=Y". If it says the latter, can you post the Y value and which panel you think you have.

Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] aross6:
Well unfortunately, running Android is still known to kill SD cards after extensive use at this point, so running Android from internal NAND flash memory just seems more than unlikely (in my humble opinion)...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] magicalan:
hmm so for example i buy a new storage card and on the one i have already i put android...does all the info go in the android? it doesnt not put anithing on the phone? i wanna do that :D android rocks :p
[Touch CDMA Android Development] aross6:
Correct... nothing is actually "installed" on your phone, rather everything runs off of your SD Card and you simply run the "Haret" executable from WM File Explorer to boot it...

At this point I would recommend Dzo's v1.1 as it recieves calls and marketplace works perfectly...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] magicalan:
thank you very mch for your info :) ill try bouying a new sd card to try android :D also.. dzo v1.1 has any bugs? xD or anithing i dont know lol am a sprint user :)

thanks in adavance
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
still to be done..

GPS

Bluetooth

USB Connection (i think)

Buggy Keyboard

thats what i know so far, its good enough for me to use as a main OS anyway and boot back to WinMo if i need anything.... i fell in love when i saw how good it ran onmy vogue that WM is my secondary OS at the moment lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] infinateLoopMan:
Dzo's v1.1 and camera

Is the camera working in Dzo's v1.1? when i use it everything is working ok except the camera. The camera works fine in cupcake but i'll be sticking with 1.1 for now. any info?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] magicalan:
I have another question sorry guys am just really insterested.. well tomorrow am buying a 4gb sd card for my vogue and i was wondering if i put the android on it and all my stuff that i have on my sd card that came with the vogue will it mest up my 4gb sd card?

am scared on putting it on there and then messing up my sd card

what kind of damage does it make?

can i just erase everithing and fix the sd card?

edit lol

also is there any FAQ out there for sprint users? jjust incase i dont wanna have trouble lauching it and making everithing thats supose to work ... work. >_<

thanks for looking at the questions and answering in advance lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zkush:
are there still probs with storage cards being broke. im broke and cant afford a new one
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
I've managed to get hardware accelerated openGL working. This is something that wince doesn't have and I had thought that perhaps the hardware was disabled on our phones so this is good news. It's still not quite ready but it definitely works. I'll post a new package soon.

Martin
[Touch CDMA Android Development] magicalan:
can u answer some questionns aboveeeeeeeeee :( i dont wanna have to buy another sd card -.-
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike21pr:
mine has no issues

ps: has anyone noticed how smooth the OS is? it scrolls just as smooth as the iphone with no skips if you do it rite....

im starting to think... (ok, im convinced) that all the performance issues on our devices is mostly WM fault and not the drivers issue, anyone who really took android for a spin can agree
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
There have been reported problems with android and storage cards. I don't think they are due to android, though, here's why.

If you read much of PPC communities, you will find that windows mobile has problems with corrupting or hiding data on storage cards. Happens worse with some ROMs, less with others, with larger files in some conditions, smaller less noticeable files in others. Some people have felt certain brand storage cards are better and others are worse, but all are succeptible (I have the storage card that people say would not have any problems, and lost a bunch of data on my card BEFORE android). Myself and many others have had to reformat (FAT32, btw) and restore storage cards due to win mo long before android came along.

So, regardless of whether you use android or not, you should 1) always have a current back up of your SD card, and 2) realize that any data is never 100% secure on the SD card, EVEN IF you have had no problems with win mo and loss of storage data before. It can happen at any time. So back your junk up, try android, and have fun!