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[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
I'm just talking from a usability perspective; previously there was a way to reply to a single message in a conversation. Now, you have to collapse all other messages to be able to reply, which is not an easily discoverable behavior. I would expect a bunch of people to be wondering why the reply button isn't showing up. IMO replying (or forwarding etc) should be simple and easy to get to. Its not even in the 3-dot menu, so the only way to reply is to collapse everything else.

I'm glad you're experimenting with making the UI a bit more minimal. For now, I've switched the option to just expand a single message at a time. The option to allow people to select up to 3 actions seems like a good one. Is there a reason why 'spam' would be always visible? Maybe I don't get much spam, but its probably the least used button for me.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
How can you use a rule to capture all messages in a folder?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
By using a regex ".*" (without quotes) for the sender.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Thanks for the regex... Is there any way to automatically delete duplicate mails in a folder (as it is possible with a TB-AddOn)?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If there is a way to recognize the duplicate messages with one of the conditions, you can automatically move messages to the trash folder.

Note that IMAP does not allow duplicate messages, so are the messages really duplicate?
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
I have updated to 1.0007 via the Play Store, but I do not see any difference neither in the display nor privacy settings tabs...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That's correct, because version 1.1007 in the Play store is different from the GitHub version.

Just install the GitHub version over your current version to get the latest features.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Well, the MIDs are identical, the rest of it anyway... but there's probably no way to check during the move action if there is already a mail with an identical MID in the target folder, is there?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, there is no way and this should not happen. Message IDs are supposed to be unique.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1008

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The encryption related action buttons have been moved below the show images / original message buttons to make room for a move and answer action button.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
Thank you so much for bringing back the "Move" button [emoji1376][emoji1376][emoji1376][emoji1360][emoji1374]

The message action bar is now very convenient and super useful again [emoji16]
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Again, I don't see them? (something wrong with me?) or do they only show when default encryption is chosen?

And why 2 answer icons?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a move (folder icon) and answer button.

The answer button is needed for when multiple messages are expanded, see the earlier discussions.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks. Got it for answer (single /expanded)

What about encryption buttons, which I can't see. Do I need to enable default encryption methods to see them?
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
The interface just keeps getting better all the time. Really great now. Moving several options from the top bar (that required scrolling to access in long messages) to the floating reply icon is a major improvement.

Question:

The spam flag icon: does it just move the message to the spam folder or does it create a rule for future messages to be considered as spam?

Also, once clicked on, can it be reversed? How?
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
If you tick block sender, a rule is created as explained. See screenshot.

If you want that rule to be reversed, go to inbox and edit rules or simply delete that rule

Edit :if you simply click OK without choosing any option, no rule is created but the message is pushed to Spam folder. Go to spam folder and click on the newly introduced icon to push it to inbox
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

Is there a case for third option (after the rule creation explanation)

like "don't create rule but treat as spam"?

Because OK is for all three cases and it may not be clear what to do if you don't want to create a rule but push it to spam
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Actually, it is clear as is. It is my fault for not remembering the options were clearly presented.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
You don't need a third option because if you don't tick 'block sender' there were no rule created on click 'o.k.'
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A received message needs to be encrypted for these button to be shown.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1009

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The version adds an icon button below the message text to quickly mark a message read or unread, which will be especially useful to people who disabled automatically marking messages read (in the advanced account settings).

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
In version 1.1009 I have an overlap between unsubscribe and answer buttons.

I would prefer the read/unread button at the top with other buttons, and the possibility in the settings to select what buttons to show (in the same way we can select the possible action in the notification)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Can you please post a screenshot of the overlap?
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
Please see the screenshots.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks.

Can you please tell me which device you are using?

(this is for determining the screen size and resolution)
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
Xiaomi MI A3
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
The overlapping is here also with my umidigi S3.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
I agree. I was looking at it as a new user to the app and save them possible confusion [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
This is already the case, even a new user should be able to read ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1010 1.1011

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The version moves the unsubscribe button below the show original message button.

[MENTION=10193669]aalto73[/MENTION] [MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] can you please confirm the overlap is fixed?

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1010

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The version moves the unsubscribe button below the show original message button. [MENTION=10193669]aalto73[/MENTION] [MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] can you please confirm the overlap is fixed?

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
It's much better now - thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Overlap is fixed but this icon alone (like in the screenshot of [MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] ) is quite ugly ^^^

EDIT : attached screenshot of my OnePlus 5
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1012

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The version moved the unsubscribe button again, but there is a catch ... [MENTION=4913921]BreckZeBoulay[/MENTION] [MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] [MENTION=10193669]aalto73[/MENTION]

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
I don't like version 1.1012...

I was not shoked by the position of the unsubscribe button in version 1.1011, as unsubscribe button is not present in all email. But again I would prefer to be able to select what buttons to show, it will make everybody happy.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Configurable button would not make me happy because support will be more difficult.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Note that I have been saying a number of times not all buttons will fit on one line.

I have changed it a number of times today already and I will change it again if needed, but you (multiple) need to tell me what you want, also considering smaller screens like [MENTION=4913921]BreckZeBoulay[/MENTION] [MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] [MENTION=10193669]aalto73[/MENTION] are having. Note that there are even more smaller screens.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Note that I have been saying a number of times that not all buttons will fit on one line.

I have changed it a number of times today already and I will change it again if needed, but you (multiple) need to tell me what you want, also considering smaller screens like [MENTION=4913921]BreckZeBoulay[/MENTION] [MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] [MENTION=10193669]aalto73[/MENTION] are having. Note that there are even more smaller screens.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Good for me. Just missing the archive icon to have a full line of action bar (?).

For information, the red arrow shows a missing icon in the legend section.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There won't be an archive icon if there is no archive folder or if the message is already in the archive folder.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Yes sure. It was just in case of....
[Android Apps and Games] papakitou:
Hello, great app si far.

Is there an option, not to quote entire conversation when I send an email?

It uses so much data
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, but you can always edit the replied-to message of course.
[Android Apps and Games] papakitou:
Thanks for your immediate response.

So, after click reply, in right corner there is a edit button, press it and select delete to remove any quoted messages /attachments?
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
I think the cross button has already been debated, with the conclusion to have direct access to all buttons. The answer button has also been debated. I really think that the possibility to select via settings the buttons/shortcuts to show is the solution.
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
Thank you for iterating quickly on this and finding a working solution. IMO, the cross button is fine; it basically bundles all the 'single click' actions to get rid of the message from its current folder (trash, spam, archive). A better icon may help.

If you're still looking for ideas, another option could be to move the two 'view' options (show images and show original html) into the 3-dot menu to free up space. Really, at this point its just about trying various ideas to see what fits. Main actions can go in the bar directly, and extras can go into the overflow/3-dot menu.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1013

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The spacing between the message icon buttons has been reduced a bit to make it possible to show all icons on smaller screens too.

[MENTION=4913921]BreckZeBoulay[/MENTION] [MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] [MENTION=10193669]aalto73[/MENTION] [MENTION=428817]ammarr[/MENTION] can you please let me know if it is okay for you now?

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
Yes it is ok for me, thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Now here it's very good.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Personnaly I didn't have overlaping issue, my first comment concerned the ugly lonely icon :D (at the right of the screen)

My OP5 screen is big enough to use the previous padding ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Snappy reply!
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
I don't know how much programming is involved but would it be a possibility to offer the same configuration for the action bar as it is already realized for the notifications popup? There you can choose which operation you want to be visible ....
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1014

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
Looks fantastic! Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] Hiroo Onoda:
Three things:

- Sorry if this has been answered, but ain't the delete option in the three dot menu redundant?

- Just a small gripe, but could the display of the reply arrow in the message action bar only be shown if there are in fact multiple messages expanded? Since I don't use conversation threading, this button's superfluous with the orange button on the bottom

- Android nav and notification bar coloring is neat, but I think it'd be even better if that color was the same as the FE one. Right now, my FE has the default light blue, while the Android bars are a darker shade of blue.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The delete in the three-dots menu will always permanently delete a message.

Showing things optionally will always result in questions why it is not always shown.

The Android top (status bar) and bottom (navigation bar) are shown in the same color because they are not part of the app.
[Android Apps and Games] Hiroo Onoda:
Yet you don't seem to care much about these questions when it comes to why the encryption buttons aren't there ;)

A few modern apps I know colorise either status or the navigation bar (or both) according to their themes, thus creating a fullscreen like effect. I just think it looks nice. Look at these images as cases in point.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Encryption is not used by many people. Details do matter.

IMHO the apps on the screenshots look ugly. The Android status and navigation bar should have a different tint. See also for example here:

https://material.io/components/app-bars-top/
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
So far so good. Thanks!

Just maybe another suggestion to further improve the visual:

Do we need the 2 thin separators above the line of icons, and couldn't the downward arrow (in between the 2 separators) be moved on the left hand side, below the arrow pointing upward?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Lines are used to separate sections. The mentioned lines separate the header, the (collapsed) addresses and the body of message.

https://material.io/components/dividers/
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] your app ; FairEmail , is far and above so many other apps in design and especially maintenance. i forget who said it (apologies) but FE was rock solid many many builds ago.:good:
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] , searched thru help section but if there i missed it.

can i keep messages in a conversation separate from each other? if not then its ok on my end. just wondering. :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If you mean showing single messages: you can disable grouping of messages in the display settings.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
well dang. that was easy. shouldve looked harder. [emoji106]
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] just wondering if it would be possible to put the attachments and the seen button after the original message content but before the quoted ones? Sometimes for long messages that have been replied and forward a few times, the attachments and seen button are very far from where you end up reading...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
By default attachments are shown on top.

You can mark a message read/unread both at the top via the three-dots menu and the "eye" symbol at the bottom.

There is a setting to collapse quotes by default.

Anyway, I am not going to make changes for this.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
Thanks, I just realized that the collapse quotes by default doesn't seem to work with my work email. That's why my arrachements appear all the way down. I'll send you a raw message later to debug the collapse quotes automatically, because I agree with you that I wouldn't need anything else if that was indeed working properly.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1015

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] Timmmmaaahh!:
So will you alternate making people happy? lol... Just kidding. That could be achieved by adding toggles for everything but that would only make your fear of feature creep more real.

Is there any particular reason why you're updating FairEmail roughly twice a day? This isn't good for OCD people like me that want to keep things up to date :D

I was going to search if this had been asked before but it's virtually impossible! I'm subscribed to over 200 threads and this is by far the most active one. I don't know how you guys pull it off but you make it seem like this is a chat room ^_^
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
About the updates: please see the discussion about the message icon/buttons. Of course this is also to satisfy your update urge ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Timmmmaaahh!:
About the overlap issue? That's can't be the only thing that explains this much updates. It's not satisfying the urge, it makes it impossible to satisfy that urge :'(
[Android Apps and Games] Kockowan:
Hello,

is it possible to uses several accounts / aliases even with its own dedicated separate GPG- or S/Mime-key?

Is it possible to choose between S/Mime- or GPG-encrytion with same email / account, if both types of encryption are provided?

(S/Mime of course in pro version only...)

Thx...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes and yes.

Related FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq12
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
This is the best prank I have witnessed in quite a while. :laugh:

By the way, the headings for the various settings have massively boosted readability. Good choice. :good:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1016

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The message icons will be "flowed" now and shown in two rows when there is not enough space. The encryption icons have been moved back to their original position, so that on wider screens all icons will be shown in one row. [MENTION=4913921]BreckZeBoulay[/MENTION] [MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] [MENTION=10193669]aalto73[/MENTION] [MENTION=428817]ammarr[/MENTION] I like to know if it looks okay for you. A screenshot would be nice.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
It's so kindly asked that I can't refuse your request :D

Look nice for me and thank you Marcel !

EDIT [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] : After looking my screenshot, the white zone of the message body is not centered. There is more grey on the right of the screen than on the left side.

(Hope to be clear)
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
It is ok for me (but I do not use encryption).
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
I'm not sure what you mean.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Try enabling left/right indenting in the display settings and you'll understand.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
What is the meaning of the 2. symbol from right in aalto73s post? I don't find it in the legend.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Return to text only without showing images.
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Does that refer to the second of the three Conversation settings?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Ah, thanks, Marcel, that's why I don't see it here, because only pure text is displayed here. But an inclusion in the legend would be - as noticed earlier - quite useful, wouldn't it?
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
OK, thanks.

I initially thought that BreckZeBoulay was talking about the icon positioning (after you mentioned the "flowed" arrangement), so I couldn't figure out how left and right came into it.
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
Looks good to me!
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
See my fabulous arrows :laugh:
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
OK, that's what I thought you were talking about first, until you said there was more grey on the right... Whatever.

If you're referring to the space where I've put the green dot, I think it's logical to have it there, because the "display images" and "display original mesage" icons belong to a different category to the others.

I hope we're talking about the same thing.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Encrypt, verify signature, show images and show original message are always shown at the end, so that show original message and show images are always at the same place.

The other action icons fill up the remaining space, possible wrapping to a second row.
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Like the "unsubscribe" icon in the image attached to ammarr's message #13053?
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
I am talking about the grey background of the app and the white uncentered rectangle of the whole message.
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] , you understand what I mean ?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Marcel has already answered that it is due to the setting of conversation indentation.
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
OK, so we were talking about two different things. I was focusing on icon positions and flowing/wrapping.

Marcel does understand, because he explained it to me in his #13046 before you sent #13054.
[Android Apps and Games] gimpy1:
Marcel, I have a question concerning receiving messages and being (not being) notified. Just now and maybe for the last week or two, I have not been getting message notifications in my top bar when I do not have the Fair Email app opened.

I dl'd the latest update from XDA, then opened up FE. At that time, I had 7 new messages pop up into my messages, and at the same time, the FE icon appear in the top bar (status) of my browser. It was not there before. The time on these 7 messages showed a 4 hour time difference between the first one and the last one. I assume that is the time I received the messages.

I have looked thru all the different settings (such as notifications, received, display, etc.) but am not sure which one I need to check/uncheck so that I receive the notification in my status bar.

It's also possible that I may have done something in the settings of my phone, and it's not related to FE at all, as I sometimes do mess with different privacy settings, etc. ?. Thx for any suggestions you might have for me.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please make sure you did disable battery optimizations for FairEmail (see the setup screen). Also make sure receiving is enabled in the receive settings.

It might be worth to take a look here:

https://dontkillmyapp.com/

If you cannot figure it out, please send me the debug info by long pressing 'Support' in the navigation menu.
[Android Apps and Games] gimpy1:
Thx, so much for your quick response. The disable battery optimization for FairEmail was not checked. I enabled it. So, maybe it will work now ?.

I had looked at that setting, but, I did not press the "manage" button. Instead I looked at the two colored options to the left of the manage button ?.

Thx again. Hopefully that fixes the problem (I'm sure it's something that I messed with in my phone settings last week, and not FE).
[Android Apps and Games] Stephan Windmüller:
Hi Marcel,

would it be possible to support soft line breaks with format=flowed?

If I receive a message like this, each line break is preceded by a whitespace character. This way the displaying client knows that it might ignore the line break and wrap at a different location in the paragraph as it sees fit.

Right now FairEmail only wraps at the hard line wrap, ignoring the Content-Type. This way the text looks ragged until I zoom out far enough.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Send me an example raw message file and point me to the standard (RFC) and I will see what I can do.

You can save a raw message file via the three-dots menu just above the message text and you can find my email address by long pressing 'Support' in the navigation menu.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Does this need to be enabled by some settings? Couldn't find

Sorry for the bother