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[Android Apps and Games] O_DoC:
I'm sure you don't need my though to figure out that, but if nothing had change on FE side and it already worked well before, these issues are obviously on MS side or something between user devices and mail servers.

When one crush his finger, people complain about the hammer instead of the one actually holding it.

FE is a good damn tools but still a tool.

It can do a lot of things and so much better than the others but can't be the answer for average Joe,...and even less for all the Karen outside.

You'll never get rid of those kind of people, but could ignore them, and focus on the huge majority of satisfied users and community support.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Although the app is still unavailable for new users, I have just released an "emergency" release in the Play store (and on GitHub) to explain what it going on.
[Android Apps and Games] O_DoC:
Hi,

Is there a delta between 1732b and 1733 ?

Just checked the change log and not the code.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, there is no tag for 1732b, but this are the changes 1732/1733:

Comparing 1.1732...1.1733 · M66B/FairEmail

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - Comparing 1.1732...1.1733 · M66B/FairEmail

github.com
[Android Apps and Games] O_DoC:
Like the line 420 in EmailService.java ヅ
[Android Apps and Games] lpedia:
@M66B: Note that there's a newly-reported MS security issue with AutoDiscover. See, eg https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...odiscover-bugs-leak-100k-windows-credentials/. If the flood of complaints about Outlook authentication failure began only in the last day or so, this might be the reason.

MS has definitely done something in the last day that breaks IMAP access to Microsoft 365 mailboxes. FairEmail and Aqua Mail Pro (on different devices) began reporting authentication failures for the same MS 365 account starting about 24 hours ago. Both had been working fine before that.

This morning I tried to add the same account to two other email apps, and they can't connect, either. I tried a different MS account with similar results. The accounts are fine; Outlook / web browser on a Windows PC are not having any trouble accessing them, but those are not using IMAP.
[Android Apps and Games] lordearl:
I have always had issues with Microsoft accounts and third party apps. From calendars to email apps, cloud systems, you name it. They are just an appallingly run company.

For my own business, we have set up entirely different mail servers and run entirely on Linux with no issues. On Android our staff use FairEmail.

@M66B fear not, the time of big tech will end and there will be users lining up at your door....
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Hi,

I have a question related to the new feature saved search. I want to save a search for a string and a star. But as soon as I click on star the search takes place with omitting the string. As a third parameter I want to save into the search that fairmail shall search on the server.

This isn't currently possible as well. Any plans to make it more convenient?
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Ha ha, Free, the french lowest quality provider, especially in mobile ? Not for me :D
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
But, we just got rid of floating compose button. Having 2 floating buttons instead would be worse blocking more of the view.

I think the more traditional previous / next buttons would be more appropriate:

You can have them at the top of thread view, bottom, or in bar like in other mail apps:

---------- Post added at 01:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:44 PM ----------

Not a big issue, just a slight annoyance,

Did you find out which part of view is creating this:

Just out of curiousity.

It occurs when navigating folders, and when returning from message back to folder:

It kind of looks like the beginning of progressbar, but does not complete because loading finishes almost instantly:

I.E.

Which is found:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source.../eu/faircode/email/FragmentMessages.java#L131

https://github.com/M66B/open-source...in/res/layout/fragment_messages.xml#L118#L127
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is a spinner and it has always been there.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
Okay.

Is there a need for it?

I ask because, there is no spinning since it loads before it can spin even a little. At the moment only a dot appears before message list appears.

It could actually be causing delays in switching views, initialising only for view to be called since it is already ready.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Spinners will not cause delays and are needed on slower devices.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
This looks good, for when you click a message and wait for it to load (rather than a dot in middle of screen),

https://storage.googleapis.com/spec-host-backup/mio-design%2Fassets%2F1CKRv3HV_Dt47_p83oMTZwsbPkEFWiITR%2F04-linear-placement-attached.mp4

Not sure how simple it would be to implement, though.

https://material.io/design/components/progress-indicators.html#linear-progress-indicators

However, not sure how to keep it consistent either for returning to list from a message/thread.

Thank you for the response.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A pull request is welcome.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.96

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This release is not available in the Play store.

This version add previous/next navigation in the conversation view.

XDA thanks, purchases and donations are appreciated.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
As mentioned earlier,

Same applies, as it is again 2 floating buttons instead of one,

Floating buttons are blocking mail view, scrolling not possible since mail fits in page, and buttons once again blocking:

Same as before, but twice the trouble,
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The floating action buttons are in the middle of the screen, so the chance that they overlap an attachment save button is minimal.

The action bar and the navigation bar are full and swiping left/right will not work properly because the address fields and message text can be selected, so I see no other solution, do you?
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
But, the first email I opened had the buttons blocking attachments, making it unable to use.

Minimal should not be an option.

It should be after the message or at the very top, like normal next previous page standards.

As of now, there is a high chance it blocks parts of messages.

In previous 2 cases it blocks saving and viewing of attachments.

---------- Post added at 04:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:17 PM ----------

One option would be to have it at bottom of messages after all messages.

Similar to how to audio players handle controls:

Here in above image, playlist is messages in container and controls (next previous) should be below underneath it all
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Are you willing to sacrifice a part of the screen space? I don't think this is a good idea.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
Why does it have to be floating button, though.

Why not add it at the end of the previous view as normal button?

That way it would not appear on top of messages nor attachments
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Because it will take away space.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
For example,

Simple calender app has next previous day button at the top which switches to next day or previous:

---------- Post added at 05:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:14 PM ----------

How?

View is now scrollable, so it will appear at the very bottom.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is no space in the action bar anymore, so that's not going to work.

A button bar at the bottom will to away reading space.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
No, not bottom bar, nor action bar.

Just Previous and next button add to layout after message/thread.

One that suits style of thread/message view,

Again, it will appear as part of view with message, so it will always appear at the end and scrolled away when possible,

So that when applicable to scroll, it scrolls away too.

Nothing floating or fixed. (Just aligned and spaced properly)

As of now, sometimes parts Of message is blocked from view:

And message fits in view, so you can not scroll to reveal hidden letters.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I have the same problem, with a button blocking a crucial word in the message.

Tried to rotate the screen to read it, which made the app crash.

Can send you a crash log if you want, it happens with all mails.

Edit: app crashes when rotating the screen in the thread view, with or without messages expanded.
[Android Apps and Games] tbv2005:
Thanks a lot for finally finding a way to implement!!! Next donation will be done on Monday (no access to a laptop until then). Thanks again!
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
I'm using 1.95 and pictures in emails are shown even when not selecting the 'show images' button.

And I'm not really sure if I'm happy with the floating action bar. It just looks out of place between the header and the body.
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
Ah, not just me having FairEmail failing to authenticate an outlook.com email account today, then.

While Thunderbird is not having this problem today, TbSync in Thunderbird has had most of one day a week for the last month or so when it failed to authenticate with my outlook.com address book and calendars. Has cleared up over night each time, and I've always assumed some Microsoft mess up, not the software. I'm presuming the same will be the case with FairEmail and the mailbox authentication.
[Android Apps and Games] lpedia:
I managed to get both Aqua Mail and FairEmail talking to my Outlook mailbox by removing the original account setting, setting up an account of type 'Other provider' and entering an *app password instead of the real account password. It didn't work if I tried to add the account as type Outlook/Office 365.

* In an Outlook.com account, you can generate app passwords if you have 2FA turned on. You need to generate a different one for each app.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Tap on 'More options' and enable to search for starred messages there.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Hi Marcel, I can't find auch an option. Could you give me more directions to use star and text at the same time?
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Marcel, I double checked the play store for new reviews and there is not a single one complaining about MS bug. It was the German Playstore BTW. Imo that's a good sign
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
By now everyone knows that Marcel is a genius and any issue willbe fixed immediately!
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Or Marcel has a workaround like releasing an emergency update explaining MS customers what's going on
[Android Apps and Games] avalx:
I've got this when trying to setup Outlook account.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please scroll down ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Read a little back and you know why.

Alternative solution: use the 'Other provider' quick setup wizard.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There were enough bad reviews about this :-(

I guess it helped to remove the app from the Play store.

If this problem doesn't get solved, I will be force to stop with the project.
[Android Apps and Games] deechte:
I've said it before, but you really need to grow a thicker skin. Get some professional help to structurally boost you self confidence and to be able to let negativity from others wash away easily. I mean this in a positive way, there are courses for this. I could even recommend some, being from NL like you.

Because every time there's a couple of negative reviews you come wining in here. And each time you make the thread that you'll have to stop the project. Do you realize that the actual people following this thread are by definition not the 1-star raters you complain about? No one here is part of the problem. Do you realize that your repetitive threads to stop the project only reach an audience that loves it, and thus only hurt your actual supporters?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Try to imagine a complaint about every three minutes. A thick skin won't help here :-(
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Since I don't like loose ends, I have finished implementing saved searches. Therefore version 1.1734 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store for existing users after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Saving searches have been moved from the search dialog to the top action bar of the search results. If you used a saved search, there will be a delete instead of a save icon button. There is a new dialog asking for the name and color to display in the navigation menu as well.

@topcaser
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-rushes-to-register-autodiscover-domains-leaking-credentials/ suggests that email clients need to be adapted to address this vulnerability.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't think this is related.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am depressed and I am afraid that will go away only after letting this project go.
[Android Apps and Games] deechte:
Oh really it will. It's entirely your (subconscious) decision how much you'll let things affect you. You can learn to change how that internal mechanism works. Don't you know people around you or public figures who are able to let any criticism just slide of them? That's not something you have to be born with, it can be learned. But it starts by you being willing to change that and not accepting being a victim anymore of anyone or anything.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Like I have said before, dedication and distance don't go very well together. I don't depend on the project for anything, so I can easily take distance and let it go, but wouldn't that be a waste? It is just a choice, of which I have made countless in my life (I am 55 years young).
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I don't know, maybe they are blocking something in the meantime. https://portal.office.com/ServiceStatus is not reporting any related issue anyhow.
[Android Apps and Games] asripath:
it might be a drop in an ocean....

i just came across your app and

have been using it for a week odd..

thank you
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
😂 Marcel Rutte (I'm sure you were thinking of that guy).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Without going into politics: he is cut from another wood than me. It will burn faster ...
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Anyway, whatever you decide, make sure that you will not miss this project! (I will, but that's a side issue.) And keep in mind that a next project will be treated the same, if you want to make it broadly available like FE.

I wish you all wisdom with your choice.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Oh I agree totally. We , as users, will be desperate to scramble onto something that vaguely reminds us of FE but you will also have to decide what app you will use. I can't bear to think of going back to any of the apps I used before this and most of the new ones have proxy servers and are a privacy nightmare. Besides it's your baby and you cannot just let it wither away....or can you?
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
Well that was easy.

So today FairEmail still not re-authenticating Oauth so won't sync, while Thunderbird continues to sync. As after a few years I don't remember how I configured accounts, I checked how my outlook.com mailbox is configured in Thunderbird. Just configured manually in Thunderbird like my other imap accounts, no Oauth, no special app passwords or any of that. So I deleted the account in FairEmail, then created the account again manually, server name, account name, my normal Microsoft password, picked an account colour. It syncs fine. Maybe because it's just the free outlook.com mailbox with a standard free Microsoft account, and I don't have a desktop Outlook/Outlook365 subscription, but just treating it like any old IMAP mailbox works for me.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
The saved searches are really wonderful. Love it once understood how they are working. Saying that, why is it not possible to use a search string in parallel to the other meta options like star? This would be helpful
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please tap on 'More options', scroll down and you can select 'With star'.

The star at the top is a 'shortcut' to search for starred messages only.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Marcel, there isn't a dialogue like that in more options.

Here is a screenshot:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
"Markiert" is what you are looking for.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Another feature request regarding saved search: imagine, you have an important email. OK, We can tag it with stars but sometimes I would wish to have a shortcut to them (since you need it from time to time). Isn't it possible to create a search out of a currently opened email? E. G. One could select which search parameters he wants to save from that email like title, sender and/or tags. What do you think?

I give you an example use case: I build a house and get quotes for certain things. From time to time I need to review the quotes.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Too easy.

I didn't related that to stars. Sorry for my dumb question.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In the expanded addresses section, between the message header and message text there is already a search for the sender you might want to use.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a new release, both on GitHub and in the Play store to workaround the Outlook authentication problems. In the error dialog there is a button to change the password, which will switch the account from OAuth to password authentication, which is normally not possible. There is also a help text for when 2FA is enabled, in which case an app password is required.

This is a workaround, which will probably cause problems later on when Microsoft disable Basic Auth (password authentication). See also here.
[Android Apps and Games] famusc:
Does the quick sync option for pop3 and imap save battery in addition to data? Is it safe for Gmail and office365 exchange? Thx
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
Just to express my view on the issue, when I decided to look for a new Android email client some months ago, if FairEmail at the time had said flatly that it didn't support Microsoft/Outlook.com email accounts and wouldn't in the future, but otherwise everything else it did then and does now, I would still have tried it, still have chosen it over all the others I tried, still paid for the Pro license, and would still be happily using it now. Frankly, I'm not bothered. I only have the outlook.com address because it was given to me automatically when I created a Microsoft account for the assorted Microsoft desktops then laptops I've had since then. The only emails I get in that mailbox are the automated calendar ones which I'd turn off if I could be bothered to make the effort, the odd account security one which is also sent to one of my main non-Microsoft email addresses so I'd get anyway, and the odd (usually automated) response to me submitting feedback about Edge Canary from Edge Canary where I'm logged in with my Microsoft account. They'd be no loss, but actually i have Outlook on my phone anyway (but not laptop) not for the email but for the calendar which syncs better with my laptop than the Google/Android one. I haven't configured it with any other email address than my Microsoft one, but it does fetch that tiny trickle of Microsoft email to my outlook.com address, so if FairEmail didn't fetch it, I could read that tiny bit of email in Outlook while doing the over 99% of my normal email use of my other 5, non-Microsoft mailboxes in FairEmail.

So, for me even if FairEmail lost the ability to connect to my outlook.com mailbox completely I wouldn't be bothered, and would think it a crying shame if such a brilliant email client, head and shoulders above any other Android client I've tried, was abandoned just because of this issue with Microsoft mailboxes. But that's just me, and I know there are people who cry and scream about things (even if the issue was made clear at the outset) without any attempt to understand the realities of things: that must be very wearing and stressful for app creators.

Oh, and on another matter, Marcel, I'm afraid disability makes me drop in and out of conversations, be unable to write, or even read for stretches of time, and forget there were things I should reply to in the periods when I am vaguely functional. So a belated thank you for addressing the issue I raised about occasionally needing to switch the original display of a particular message to light theme from the dark theme I have FairEmail configured to. Those new menu entries and especially the optional theme switching icon in the message display is perfect. Thank you - such great support for the needs of a user.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, it will. It wil work for most providers.
[Android Apps and Games] greta123456:
Same here, from yesterday all I got is server authenticate failed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please update to the latest version, tap on the error notification and in the error dialog on the edit password button. See also the release announcement of the latest version a little earlier here.
[Android Apps and Games] greta123456:
Thanks, and now works great 😘
[Android Apps and Games] droidsometimes:
This, a million times!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Doesn't this look nice?

How to:

Add folders to the navigation menu by long pressing folders in the folder list.

Long press a folder in the folder list of an account to set a folder color. The unified system folders will use the color of the underlying folders, if they are not conflicting.

Set account colors via manual setup in the main setup screen.

Search for something and save the search with a color.

Pin the navigation menu.

Select solarized as theme.
[Android Apps and Games] no.one.writeme:
Hi Marcel,

Just to give feedback of my Hotmail account ( username@hotmail.com ), with 2FA via Microsoft Authenticator. I just logged to my account and created another app password.

It is working again as before.

Thanks a bunch.

Best regards,

Luis
[Android Apps and Games] Andell+:
Hello all,

Ive been trying FairEmail lately, and absolutely love it, and am hoping to switch from AquaMail which is what I had been using until now. However, though I am attempting to move away from Yahoo altogether soon, I do still need to get emails from my Yahoo accounts in a timely manner for the time being.

I've had AquaMail and FairEmail running at the same time for a few days, and noticed that while AquaMail generally will notify me of Yahoo emails within a few minutes at worst, FairEmail takes significantly longer to do so, if at all. Sometimes I will go into the app and refresh, only to see emails it never notified me of.

None of the other providers I use with FairEmail have issues, and I've disabled battery optimizations, etc.

As Yahoo does not support standard push, I've tried various settings for the "check periodically instead of continuous synchronize," trying it at the default 1 x 15 minutes, and changing the value to various other amounts to see if it works. I couldn't find documentation in the FAQ of exactly what this setting means though. Does 2 x 15 minutes mean it will check twice in fifteen minutes, or once every thirty?

Regardless, I really couldn't care less about battery or data usage, so if there are any settings I can change, regardless of how much additional battery or data they will take, I would like to make it so FairEmail can receive messages as quickly as AquaMail does for Yahoo. Its worth noting that it never has trouble fetching emails if I manually refresh it, so if I could just, say, make it as if I manually refreshed it every few minutes, just automatically, that would be great.

Hopefully someone can help me out as to what settings I could change to get FairEmail fetching Yahoo emails quickly if possible!

Thank you!

EDIT: Not sure how to delete posts on XDA, but changing the keep alive interval in advanced settings for those accounts seems like it did the trick. Thanks for the fantastic email client, I love it.