yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Yes. That distinction, rather how this does compared to K9 should be mentioned in FAQ to make or easier for you
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Newer versions of K-9 Mail do not support signed only or encrypted only messages for good reasons, see here:

https://k9mail.github.io/2016/11/24/OpenPGP-Considerations-Part-I.html

https://k9mail.github.io/2017/01/30/OpenPGP-Considerations-Part-II.html

https://k9mail.github.io/2018/02/26/OpenPGP-Considerations-Part-III-Autocrypt.html

Edit: the FAQ has been updated with this information:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq12
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Educative. Thanks for sharing and adding in FAQ:good:
[Android Apps and Games] TheMadRuffian:
Suggestion: Make the menu 'filled' icons just 'outlines'

IMO, it would give a refreshed look to the app
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Which icons are you exactly talking about?
[Android Apps and Games] TheMadRuffian:
These
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Besides that it is a personal preference, not all these icons are available in an outline variant:

https://material.io/tools/icons/
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.140

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version is not available in the Play store.

[MENTION=4078157]chantoine[/MENTION] there is a new feature you'll probably like ;)
[Android Apps and Games] TheMadRuffian:
Just noticed FairEmail doesn't show up under the "Add accounts" section in the android settings neither do the previously added accounts under "Accounts for Owner". Why is that?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Why should it?
[Android Apps and Games] TheMadRuffian:
All the accounts I have on my phone are shown under the accounts section. So I was wondering if FairEmail was designed not to show for privacy reasons.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail is designed to be independent (of Google), so doesn't use Google accounts, etc. Therefore FairEmail has its own account storage.

FairEmail will work properly on devices without any Google service installed.
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Wow, that's huuuuuuuuuuuuuuugeeeeeeee :good::laugh:

Can't remember how many times i digged in the settings to enable / disable sync :p
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
It does.
[Android Apps and Games] TheMadRuffian:
I was surprised because even apps which favor google less environment like DAVDroid show up. Hence the question.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Where is it? Can't find it...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
https://support.google.com/android/answer/9083864
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.141

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version is not available in the Play store.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Oh wow. Never knew it even existed! ??

Never too old to learn, thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have added the following FAQs:

How can I use the provided quick settings?

How can I use the provided shortcuts?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.142

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version is not available in the Play store.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks for handy sync quick tile

Does this app employ a different sync mechanism or is it the same as what is used say by G mail, Google etc? Reason for asking is that I have some automation set up for Google stuff and will that affect
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail synchronizes (sends/receives email) using IMAP.

I don't know if the Gmail app uses the IMAP protocol or some other Google proprietary protocol.

Anyway, all changes in messages and folders will be processed by FairEmail.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Cosmetic request.

Is it possible to center the texts ? (see screeshot)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
How notifications are displayed is determined by Google / manufacturers, so no.

This is how the standard Android notification template looks like:

https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/notifiers/notifications#Templates
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
I am using FairEmail with Manual Synchronization and only on wifi (via afwall).

When connected through data notification shows,

As it can't connect through data, only wifi.

Yet the consumption is fairly high for my usage:

And,

Will the Quick Settings tile help by disabling sync when not checking mail?

Currently, for Manual Sync option battery usage is too high, as

I am presuming FairEmail still tries to connect regularly to server even when data internet connection is restricted and even though no folders are being synced
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The quick settings tile turns FairEmail completely on/off (it is the same as the advanced synchronize settings).

FairEmail will retry to connect with a logarithmic back-off time, so it will wait increasing longer to retry.

Please install BetterBatteryStats and post the wakelock statistics of FairEmail here.

I also like to know which version of FairEmail you are using.

Edit: FairEmail will keep the device awake during the back-off period. I will see if I can change this.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
The last release I was using was 1.138

Just updated latest release and installed betterbatterystats.

You just need dumpfile?

Just started logging, so will post later
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.143

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version is not available in the Play store.

This version will stop retrying to connect after 2 minutes to let the device sleep again. The account will show a timeout exception in this case. FairEmail will try to reconnect on the next connectivity event (for example when switching to another mobile / Wi-Fi network or disabling flight mode). [MENTION=3138030]m0d[/MENTION] this should fix your battery usage problem.

The 'add' button in the account/identity list will be animated when there are no accounts/identities yet.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Another cosmetic request.

When contact photos are enable, they are not displayed in sent folder.
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
Fresh install v.10

Setup my gmail account and syncing started.

Left it syncing.

Tried opening the app 20 mins later and am presented with compose email page and this error.

Cannot use back button.

Restarted app, rebooted phone but issue persists
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
v0.10

I can no longer add an identity for a real identity/alias. Error message: 535 5.7.0 authentification failed

It worked with the main address.

To use the same context:

• main address: 102030@association.com

• identity/alias: abcdef@association.com
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This will be fixed in the next version.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There was nothing changed to authentication, so I am wondering why this is.

Edit: you should fill your alias address into the email address field and use your main email address as user name
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
Oh yes, sorry. Works fine.
[Android Apps and Games] Primokorn:
Could you add the email address for each identity when composing a new email?

We can have several providers with the same ID.
[Android Apps and Games] BunnyWarrior:
I have a guess. Will edit this post with the results.

Edit: My guess was right. It does not work with the trial account of mailbox.org. Tried it with my main, paid, full acc and it works fine. Sorry for stealing you development time. Was afraid to test it with my main acc due to the risk of killing my cat.
[Android Apps and Games] Orphee:
Can it support office365 accounts ? (Work email)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Outlook works, so I guess "yes".
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Just to clarify, this won't work with yahoo since it doesn't support IDLE. Am I right?

If that's the case, it is a regrettable no-go as it's tied to things I can't change:eek:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Maybe I will add support for providers without IDLE capability later, but there is a reason why you shouldn't use such providers:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md#FAQ5

In short: it will use more battery power than it should.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
That would be great. If you add support:good:

For me, your responsiveness and quality makes it worth buying your products including this when you go pro with it
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
App keeps fcing after adding a Gmail account. I get a Java error, see attached screen shot.

Running the latest version. Account does not use app specific passwords. (it's a throw away account I setup for a form). Right after that error the app will force close. I can't get out of compose mode.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This was reported before already.

Today there will be a new release with lots of stability improvements and bug fixes.
[Android Apps and Games] Kelvino9:
Congratulations for naming your baby ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Arbabpk2000:
C9 Pro Oreo Update Issue.

Hi,

I have C9 Pro Hong Kong version, yesterday I was checking for software update and I was happy to see that Oreo update build number:C9000ZHU1CRG9 was available so I updated my C9 Pro.But since than I am facing issues as many applications like Twitter, LinkedIn,Email, Messages etc are not working whenever I open these applications error message and application stops.

I am wondering when I contacted to Samsung Agent in Hong Kong via Samsung contact live chat he told me that Samsung Hong Kong still have Nougat for C9 Pro so I am astonished that how this update arrived for my mobile when official is saying that no update yet is available for C9 Pro.

Please help me to resolve this issue.

Regards,

I look forward to hearing from you soon.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
+1[emoji2]

err on the side of kindness
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

alpha

version 0.11

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

There are not many new features, but under the hood lots of things have been fixed and improved. This version should be more stable than previous versions.

Please report any problems you encounter, so that these can be fixed.

Edit: due to database changes, you'll have to setup your account/identities again. Hopefully this will be the last time.
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
There is no dl link, is it normal ?

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Sorry, must be me. One click to get the link...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
They are and actually version 1.142 changed that the photo of the recipient is shown.

You might need to clear local messages of the sent folder and synchronize the messages again to get the correct photos.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Yes ! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Since a series of bugs was fixed since the latest stable, I have just released version 1.143 as stable version in the Play store.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

stable

version 1.144

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version will be available in the Play store after Google's approval.

This version will retry to connect the first two minutes while keeping the device awake and after that retry to connect each 15 minutes while letting the device sleep. This is a necessary compromise because keeping the device awake will result in extra battery usage and alarms will not go off more frequent than each 10-15 minutes in doze mode.
[Android Apps and Games] JLowe:
I have latest stable installed (pro) with only one email provider but with different identifies ("aliases" +....) which are already setup in settings identifies. Is there something I need to configure if I reply that automatically the right identify is selected?

In K9 the right email address is selected automatically.

In my installed Fairemail I have to check always manual to which of my aliases the email is directed and then need to manual select the correct email address for sending the email. Is this a normal behaviour or did I something wrong?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.145

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version is not available in the Play store.

There is a new advanced option to allow editing sender addresses. You can edit the 'extra' part in this example:

name+extra@example.com

Note that most providers, including Google, will not allow this to prevent spam, so this is mostly useful to people running their own email server only.

Although it was almost no work, a big change is using the Android SQLite support library instead of using the most likely older sqlite version installed on the device. This will most probably fix the occasional crashes on Motorola/Lenovo devices with an older Android version. More important is that it will likely significantly increase the performance. A downside is that the APK size is now about 1.25 MB larger. For now I have not included the 64 bits libraries, else the size increase would be more.

Thanks, purchases and donations are appreciated.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
First of all see the release notes above of version 1.145.

FairEmail should select the right identity automatically and actually I rely heavily on this. If this doesn't work properly for you, please give example addresses of emails received and of the identities you have configured.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
Your fix in 1.143 made a big difference in consumption:

I have not tried latest versions yet, with changes.

In regards to connection timeouts,

I am getting a lot of concurrent timeout exception, even after switching OFF synchronization and switching back ON once I want to check mail and have a wifi connection.

It also happens when one of the accounts takes long syncing messages, for example 1 mail gets a lot of junk so while the junk messages are syncing the other account gets concurrent timeout exception (isnt it queued for same providers?)

As you see in image above, the 1st account is connected and syncing lots of messages, while the other account gets timeout.

Once timeout reaches it takes a long time to re-establish connection. I tried keeping sync off and only switching on when I want check mail, bit it did not help much.

I believe multiple ON and OFF toggles might help, not sure though.

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That should not be an issue.

There should be a way to create separate apks for different versions. This might require separate, queued, compilations.

But, there are definately ways to do it automatically:

Gitlab somehow has the option to package artifacts (zip file with apks and universal apk)

https://gitlab.com/jensstein/oandbackup

Download sign, zip file containing signed apks, build is debug apks:

Also, includes universal apk (6.1mb instead of 1.8mb)

Also,

VLC have separate builds:

http://get.videolan.org/vlc-android/3.0.13/
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please update to the latest version.

I am not going to release separate versions because there will always be people wondering which version to install. The APK size is still acceptable small.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just added this FAQ:

How can I check if reading email is really safe?

Note that versions before the latest version will crash because some of the tests let the Chrome Custom Tabs crash. The latest version has a workaround for this.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Is a wipe data of the app can be usefull to prevent errors ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Mostly not. What is the problem?
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
No problem so far.

It's just to avoid possible reportings due to the quite big difference between 1.144 and 1.145
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

Regarding sync Quick Settings

Thinking it could be greyed out when sync is disabled and normal otherwise

Or is it designed to but I can't see it because of substratum?
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
Seems to be working better.

But, twice I was still able to sync when global sync was off.

Once, when I switched on wifi, in the morning after wifi and data were both off and synchronization was off.

And once when I switched off global sync from quick settings tile:

First account timed out because I connected to data first, then wifi, switched on/off/on and second account connected to server after syncing some folders turned synchronization off through QS tile, and then tried syncing folders, they synced

After a moment both folders disconnected since global sync was off. So I guess there is a slight delay after QS tile turns off.

But it does not explain 1st case when it connected with global sync off all night, turned on wifi in the mor ing and folders synced even though it was still off.

But I was not able to reproduce.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The tile is activated/deactivate on turning synchronization on/off, so it should show similar to Wi-Fi quick settings tile on/off.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Turning synchronizing on/off is done asynchronously in the background, so there can and will be a delay, especially when turning synchronization off.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks

Substratum issue and expecting them to fix it is a waste. Have to live with it unless you decide to add a tick /cross above that but then it is extra work for a small section
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just added this FAQ:

Why are edited sender addresses not working?
[Android Apps and Games] ConstMan:
Found information for yourself, thanks))))
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What was this about? Maybe it can be useful to others too.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.146

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version is not available in the Play store.

This version mainly fixes bugs.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Just a little typo 1.14

6

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It worked but not now.

I made a fresh install of 1.145 (now I have updated to 1.146) and now contact photos are not displayed in folders (in my case at this time in sent and trash folders).

Identicons are displayed even on contacts who have a photo.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It works for me.

Did you grant contacts permissions in the setup?
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Sorry, my bad, shame on me !

But at fresh install, FairEmail asked to grant contact permission, no ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Sometimes a picture says more than a thousands of words:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/screenshots/setup.png
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
the worst is that this screenshot has been made by...... :rolleyes:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Actually the screenshots have been updated, see here for the most recent ones:

https://email.faircode.eu/#screenshots
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Didn't mention it before, but the tile :

- is always "white" on my LG G4 on Android 7.1 with LineAge OS 14.1 (sync active or not) (thought it would be "grey" if inactive and "white" if active)

- is correctly displayed on my Samsung A5 2017 on Android 8 (blue if active / grey if inactive).

[edit] not a big deal...
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Account colors in the notifications seems to be a bit broken when you have two or more mails/notifications for mails.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This will be improved in the next version.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail sets the colors properly, but it depends on your Android version if and how the color is displayed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

stable

version 1.147

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version is not will be available in the Play store after Google's approval.

This version adds a two column mode for list/message in landscape mode, if the display with is sufficiently large.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Seems to work fine for other apps, like tasks (open source, https://f-droid.org/app/org.tasks), that's why I'm wondering.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Looking at the source code the difference is that Tasks also sets a color for the notification summary group. FairEmail cannot do this because the individual notifications can have different colors for different accounts. Maybe this feature should be removed.

A little background: notifications are structured like this:

-- expandable summary notification (xxx new messages)

---- expandable new message notification 1

---- expandable new message notification 2

---- expandable new message notification 3

Colors are set on child notifications only.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Quoting the start post is unnecessary.

Writing in all capitals is considered RUDE.

About your question, please see here:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email#secure
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Okay, I tested it in tasks for different priorities and only the higher priority color is used for the app name and icon and the notification options are in the color of the priority of the task.

Now I understand it.

Please don't remove it. Maybe a short text in the FAQ about that could help?!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I think it is better to remove something that doesn't work properly. I am not really waiting for questions about this minor feature as well.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Lately, I have been working hard to iron out all bugs and I have been adding a number of new smaller and bigger features. I have also put an effort into improving the documentation and added a series of FAQs. I hope this is being appreciated.

I like to hear what you think about the current state of FairEmail. I am still not sure if I want to release FairEmail in the Play store, but let's take that as the goal.
[Android Apps and Games] TheMadRuffian:
Honestly, I think FairEmail has come a long way. I'm completely satisfied with the current state of the app along with its FAQ documentation. It gets everything I need to do, done in the most efficient, privacy friendly way. The FAQs are elaborate and easy to understand.

The reason for a tremendous development in such a short period of time is, my guess, the nature of the developer to listen to the audience/users and implement the features which are practical so as to keep the app from being bloated.

As far as the future is concerned, it would be better to keep the app maintained and keeping it bug free before implementing any new feature unless its a top priority. When a new feature is implemented, maybe we can see FairEmail 2.0?

Thank you [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] for putting your time into such a wonderful project.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
That's easy for me, above reaction contains everything I wanted to comment.
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
[MENTION=8286619]TheMadRuffian[/MENTION] said everything, the app is close to perfection now.
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
Yup absolutely what madruffian said, well done and a huge thankyou for your tireless effort.

Being a user of many of your apps this is clearly the one with the most potential in terms of number of users, because everyone uses email on their phones.

I don't know how many K9 users there are, but when the word really gets out about this app then thats your immediate potential audience at least. I think most of us came from K9.

Once Fairemail starts getting reviewed on the larger general readship sites then they will come... But will probably need to be on the playstore for that to happen.
[Android Apps and Games] folusmile:
FaireEmail notification really look beautiful fairEmail is in class of a professional email client. Thanks you Dev