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[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Since last version, I have these operation errors. Have never seen them before. The first two are on my own mail server.
[Android Apps and Games] dctrbnsttr:
I have noticed them too since the last few updates. They seem to occur after I use the menu item to empty trash. It appears that if some accounts have no trashed email, those accounts throw the error. If I simply swipe or long click each email in the trash, I don't get errors. My errors may not be quite the same as yours.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
I am too, mostly on my Yahoo account.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
These errors occur when emptying an already empty folder. Eventually, after 10 tries, they go away. The next version fixes the underlying problem.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1394 is available on GitHub now:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

[MENTION=4356248]heinhuiz[/MENTION] [MENTION=768975]dctrbnsttr[/MENTION] [MENTION=10106102]nadir husain[/MENTION] can you please double check if the empty folder problem is fixed?
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
For me it occurred after emptying spam, and it indeed has disappeared now. Thanks a lot for the quick fix!
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
It's fixed Marcel. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] dctrbnsttr:
Yes! Fixed!

Thanks!!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1395 1.1396 is available on GitHub now:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] BokeB:
`Added display option to disable image placeholders (reformatted messages only)`

This feature from 1.394 does not work anymore on latest build.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks for reporting this, it is fixed in version 1.1397.
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
Excellent feature, thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The recent releases came with text separator lines enabled by default after having invested some time into reducing the number of lines.

Should this keep being enabled? Are the lines useful or the other way around disturbing?

You'll probably see them in commercial messages, etc, but not in "people's" messages.
[Android Apps and Games] dctrbnsttr:
The separator lines are useful for me. And one can always turn them off should one not like them.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
This should be enabled as it is. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Somebody reported that saving attachments doesn't work in version 1.1400. I can't reproduce this and I think it is an incorrect report. Nevertheless, I like to be sure, so please test it and let me know if it works.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Works fine for me too.
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
No problem either.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks for the reassurance!
[Android Apps and Games] akki42:
Notification Actions: "Trash" (enGB: "Delete" / deDE: "Löschen")

Hi M66B,

in Settings - Notifications, the first action (title_advanced_notify_action_trash) is titled "Trash" in .../values/strings.xml, however "translated" to "Delete" in enGB (and accordingly "Löschen" in German).

The underlying action is indeed "moving to trash" - and does only work on IMAP if a Trash folder exists (and not when using "mark as deleted"):

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/b...c/main/java/eu/faircode/email/Core.java#L3874

Would it be possible to also implement a "IMAP: mark as deleted" routine for this action (which might then truly be called "Delete")?

Many thanks - for this and the great work in general!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If you mean the IMAP delete flag in relation to the EXPUNGE command: this won't be added because both many email servers and many people cannot handle this properly. Related FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq160

Note that many email servers do not support the UIDPLUS extension and therefore not the UID EXPUNGE command:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4315

tl;dr; this will result in unexpectedly losing messages and is therefore unsupportable.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I don't know if this has anything to do with FairEmail or if it has to do with the keyboard I use. But here's what happens.

—I reply to an email.

—I wish to put my answers interspersed between the received text. So, I click on the edit icon and choose 'Edit as reformated text'.

—the received text has a left vertical quote line, which is correct.

—by clicking on <enter> I can type my text in various locations without having the quote line appear on it's left.

But,

—if I rearrange my answers by copy pasting *unquoted text* from one place to elsewhere things become confused and my pasted text now is marked with the left quote line, which I do not want.

I understand why the phone would consider this as a quote despite coming from unquoted text but it is annoying.

Is there a way to 'unquote' text?

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am aware that this doesn't work ideally, but this is hard to fix because the Android text editor is very basic, not to say prehistoric.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=6910712]maybeme2[/MENTION] try selecting the text and use 'clear formatting' in the text style menu.

Edit: this doesn't work because it won't 'break' the quote. I will see if something like this can be added.
[Android Apps and Games] Amd4life:
Where can I find the setting to swipe to delete WITHOUT having to confirm delete in a second prompt?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
By setting the swipe action to move to the trash folder.

Permanent deletion of messages always needs to be confirmed, see also this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq160
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I was just mentioning it in case I was doing something wrong. Don't work too hard on it. I can live with it. FE is still the best — by far!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Coincidentally, I hit this issue myself too today, so:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/e68a03252c731a848743c8f41b66be94badb5247

Next version.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
You're the best. But you already knew that.....

My workaround was to text color my replies so that they would look different from the questions.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1401 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval (which seems to take a long time currently).

[MENTION=6910712]maybeme2[/MENTION] try to select a part of a quote and select clear formatting in the text style options. Note that the similar clear formatting in the top three-dots menu will remove all formatting.

Another new feature is PGP subject encryption, which can be enabled in the encryption settings.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There were lots of very disappointing Play store reviews lately. I am going to accept that the average Play store rating is going down about each and every day, but this goes together with a full stop on new features.

If you are wondering why independent developers like me are giving up and big companies are taking over, this is one of the reason.

All my app will keep being maintained and supported, but there will be no new apps anymore.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Sorry about the reviews. Just remember they are in the minority. Lots of us feel otherwise. The hell with them.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Yes .... The hell with them. FairEmail is the best around and no one with half a brain can dispute that!
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
good for you [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]. take care of you … no one else can. (i mean "base-wise"). and of course thank you for any continued maintenance you feel to provide.:good:
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Sad that such reviews kill the efforts of possibly the best, most responsive app developer.

It's ironical that those reviews affect those who care for the dev and his apps.
[Android Apps and Games] mkrafft:
You made me enjoy email on the go again!

Hey [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION], first off let me say that I am sorry about the Google Play Store reviews. As someone else suggested, please do not regard these as representative of your community, although I can fully understand that it's demotivating.

Maybe I can add back a little bit of motivation by saying that FairEmail is so cool, it actually got me excited about email on the go again, after years of K9, and actually removing it a couple weeks back out of frustration. The threaded conversations are awesome, I *love* being able to move messages around with an undo feature, and altogether, it just feels very powerful with such features as forwarding as attachment, and in general, just having transparency about operations etc.. Filters & snoozing are also really good, although I already have procmail for both of those. Anyway, the point is that FairEmail is super-cool, and it's truly astonishing how you've managed to carve this piece of art in such short time. Thank you so much!

I have a couple of feature ideas, and since I don't really know how you are using this forum, I'll just put them into extra posts, and also not all at once.

Again, thank you for all your hard work, and down let the haters drag you down. One of the things Google has done with Android and Play Store is make mobile phones and apps accessible to a wide audience, and an unfortunate side-effect of that is that wider audience includes a lot of idiots and assholes. Don't waste your time on them!

---------- Post added at 08:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:37 AM ----------

Hey,

Every time I reply to a message, it's quoted at the bottom of the reply, leading to the dreaded top-posting behaviour. I then have to manually delete it, even though the setting under Send → "Quote replied text" is disabled.

How can I make it default not to quote the original message? Ideally, I could still see it when replying, and choose to include it, but by default, it should just not be shown. Is this possible?

Thanks,

martin
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The option quote replied text enables/disables a block quote around the replied to text, not including/excluding the replied text.

You might not like it, but virtually everybody uses top-posting these days. After you have replied to a message, you can use the little pencil icon, which will allow you to edit the replied-to text and positions the cursor below the replied-to text.

Alternatively, you can select the text you want to reply to before replying.

Ideally, there would be an option for bottom posting ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1402 is available on GitHub now.

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The features I was busy with have been finished, but after this version it will mainly be bug fixing.
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

See your work as art.

Art is liked by many, some are willing to pay huge amounts, others don't understand it and some dislike it.

The more a project grows, the wider the audience and the more different opinions you get.

From this perspective, even the worse ratings are some kind of award, as they show that your app is recognized by so many, that you'll get all of the feedback.

Would the audience be smaller, chances are good you get only feedback of your echo chamber - but your app reaches far deeper into the society. And as different as humans are, so you also reach the non understanding people. Feels bad, but is a good thing.
[Android Apps and Games] Tatsch:
Now Aquamail seems to be starting to show advertisements when tapping attachments in the latest beta versions of the paid pro version.

One more reason to use FairEmail now ;)
[Android Apps and Games] dirtyreturn:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] What do you think about - since the github version has a special feature that the play store version doesn't. Could it just have been up for review? :cool:

Your netguard app
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
Getting some odd Javamail error, screen shot attached. I can't force sync my inbox either, running the latest GitHub version.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't know. Google did not provide details.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is probably a bug in FairEmail. I like to see the debug info soon after reproducing this.
[Android Apps and Games] glops:
Hello,

[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

if possible to have the possibility to activate the option "Browse messages on the server" in the settings of the e-mail box

I just want to disable this option with the e-mail box that does not support IMAP IDLE to avoid battery consumption

Thank you
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have no plans to make this an account settings.

Edit: okay, I will make this an advanced account setting.
[Android Apps and Games] glops:
Thank you very much :good:
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
Debug logs sent. Thank you.

I deleted local messages, force closed the app, then it started syncing again.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

I notice random underline on some words, mostly towards the end of sentence

For instance in the last mail shared by you - to post ON... (caps indicate underline)

In the immediate previous mail originated by you - hosts file BASED...

It is very noticeable when you view in regular Gmail app too

Minor thing but wanted to let you know
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will look into it, but I have no idea how this can happen.
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Hi,

I think an option to cut the service (stop syncing) could be interesting. Sometimes we don't want to continue receiving all new messages, all time.

One my non rooted mobile, i have to go to settings and manually kill the app.

On the rooted, i set a MacroDroid macro to kill FairEmail at 23:30.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Receiving new email or new email notifications? You can set a silence period in Android. In any case there will be no schedules to turn things off.

Edit: be aware that killing an app can corrupt its data
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Receiving new emails. I like to see a "flat" discharge curve on my battery when i don't use it :)

Yes, i'm aware of it. That's why an option to exit, carefully closing all connexions before, should be cool.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
+1
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Not going to happen.

-1

Edit: I was already clear about this.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Sorry Boss :D
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have received the debug info with just questions. This is not what the debug info is for. Debug info like this goes unanswered to the trash.
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
This is the only option i have, so I'll continue to kill it. Just did it one minute ago as I launched it by mistake on my second phone.

My previous mail apps were set on manual sync. Fairemail is the first "demonstrating" me the interest of an always sync. But not 24/7 with my usecase.

Anyway, as already said, you are the boss.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is not about being the boss. It is about keeping FairEmail simple, so maintenance and support are limited. If there would be millions of people using and supporting FairEmail it would be feasible to add things like schedules.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Maybe the responsive is part of the problem.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Love the full screen option.
[Android Apps and Games] mkrafft:
Yeah, but that doesn't mean I have to. :)

Nice!

or just not to quote by default. Ideally… ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Would you still like to see a quote header in this case?

(mentioning the date and sender of the replied-to message)

Edit: thinking about this: there is a 'delete' in the 'pencil' menu.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
So freely after the slogan "People, eat ****, millions flies cannot be wrong!"

Why should you make your life easier with media-appropriate and sensible behaviour, when you can also do it 'quick and dirty'? ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Bottom posting is easy to add, so maybe it will be added later.
[Android Apps and Games] mkrafft:
No, especially not since the other side most likely displays the threaded conversation.

Yes there is, there is just the additional step required to remove something that I hardly ever want in the first place.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
After I have put myself together, I am thinking about adding a settings like this:

When replying:

Write above senders' text

Write below senders' text

Omit senders' text

How does that sound? Suggestions for better titles are welcome.

Edit: this would be a global send setting.
[Android Apps and Games] mkrafft:
This sounds great, and I've had another idea, actually:

How about a radio box for top/bottom posting, and a check box for "including reply by default".

The reply would be shown in the compose window either below or above, depending on the radio setting. And there'd be a checkbox, checked by default depending on the second setting next to it. That way, the user has access to the message they're replying to, and can easily tick the checkbox, or untick it, if they want to include the message.

For completeness, I've attached relevant screenshots from K9.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Including the replied-to text is the default for FairEmail and you can remove it using the little pencil icon.

After the next Play store release I will see if I can add an option for bottom posting.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1403 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] I'm afraid you are addicted to FairEmail coding. Despite all the hangovers, you can't seem to quit.

I'm grateful for that. ?
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] sometimes on a website in a form field for an email or an internet address, my keyboard changes to an 'internet layout' with buttons labeled '@' and '.com'. Would it be possible to have that at the To: and (B)cc: fields in the Compose screens too?
[Android Apps and Games] O_DoC:
Certainly the text input type on that field.

Text type vs email type.

Marcel will obviously know the right thing to do for the best behavior of these fields. (Could have side effect we're not aware or some features (^_^)

Tapa'DoC'eD
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1404 is available on GitHub now.

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

[MENTION=4429769]mkrafft[/MENTION] there is a new option to reply below (bottom posting)

[MENTION=4356248]heinhuiz[/MENTION] please let me know if keyboard is better. Hopefully there will be no side effects.
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
It works fine, thanks for this improvement.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks.

I like to see some more confirmation of this because the composer address fields are special multiple address fields with search suggestions.
[Android Apps and Games] O_DoC:
Works fine too! Thanks.

Edit : made some tests and auto-completion is OK on all field ( To, Cc, Cci) as the draft auto-save when tap the icon to pick in contact directly, and everything still in place when back from picking.

Last thing is there's no keyboard focus when back to draft after picking. Dont know if it's ok, like I only used auto-completion so far.

---

Another subject/question please :

According my understanding the refreshing options are

- global -

And could be set to either :

- automatique ('continu' in french ui)

- periodically, with choices between 15 minutes to 1 day

I do not see, if there's some other settings available for each account.

Again, not a request just for my understanding, so I could manage my needs

Here my use-case :

- 5 accounts A1, A2, A3, A4, A5

- A1 and A2 in automatic/continuous

- A3 in periodically 1 hour

- A4 in periodical 1 week

- A5 manual only

Is there a way, with current available options, to do that ?

Or I must do some mitigation ?

I'm ok with that. But like to have some visibility. (Already had a clue for A4 0;)

Thanks for your support !

Tapa'DoC'eD
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Different schedules sounds attractive, but waking up the device potentially more often will result in more battery usage.

You can set the global receive settings to every hour and make an exception for A1 and A2.

You can set A5 to manually in the advanced account settings.

You could set A4 to manually and use an automation app to check it once a week. See the FAQ for details.
[Android Apps and Games] O_DoC:
Sounds good ! Thanks

Nota : I edited previous message with detailed feedback you'd asked about the email-input-type's fields

Tapa'DoC'eD
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Yes that works good now, thanks a lot, it makes typing mail adresses a lot easier!

This also counts for me, including the missing keyboard focus after picking a contact from the list. It would be nice if you can correct it, but it is only a very minor issue.
[Android Apps and Games] mkrafft:
Thanks a lot!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
People are mostly either typing or picking contacts, so I don't think it is a good idea to show the keyboard after picking an account. I am afraid this will annoy people who generally pick contacts.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Does it work as expected?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Which layout is better in your opinion?

A)

B)

C)

Something else
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
B.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
In my Opinion A)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=10106102]nadir husain[/MENTION] [MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] thanks. Is there any particular reason for your choice? Does it look nicer? Is it more functional? Something else?
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
1 vote for B. [emoji573] [emoji190]
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
B looks more symmetrical. Easier for the eyes to focus
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
I will keep A) too to save vertical space.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
A) is completely sufficient and does not need so much space.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The idea of B) was to draw more attention to the wizard button, as in "tap here".
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
And maybe could you rename the Help button into "Read me first".
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Maybe this is actually easier for some people with version B).
[Android Apps and Games] BokeB:
A looks cleaner for me.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Setting up account is very important and therefore whatever makes it clear, which to me is B (I guess you get a lot of questions around this, outside of XDA)
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I choose C. It looks like A but has the Wizard and Help buttons inverted.
[Android Apps and Games] Franz Jakob Tim:
This
[Android Apps and Games] loyl1:
Sometime recently we lost the ability to long press on an email address in the header and copy it to the clipboard. This has been a nice way quickly grab the address to send in an text. It's also helpful when logging in to infrequently used websites.

I first use your email search to find which email address is associated with the account, then long press to copy it. Any chance we could get this functionality back?

Many thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Email addresses in the message header have never been selectable because this will result in scroll problems. Instead, expand the addresses section between the message header and message text and you can not only copy email addresses, but also quickly search with the magnifier glass.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It seems to me that there is no solution which is good for everybody, so I will just leave it as it is.

I have just released the latest version into the Play store. The Google review process takes a long time currently, so it might be available after the weekend only.

My list with features I wanted to implement is completely empty now. This means that any new feature request will probably be considered as "exotic". So, there will likely be only bug fixes and small improvements from now on.
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
I like B better (but maybe because I'm left handed ;) )
[Android Apps and Games] dctrbnsttr:
It's B for me.....
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
A.

Less scrolling much better.