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[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Sad to read.

What is your opinion on this proposal: on the certificate selection page add a NoOp certificate. This certificate will not sign. The selection of the NoOp certificate will be stored with the identity like a real certificate . Voila, default signing work for every identity.

Yeah, I know, my first suggestion was logical better.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is not really a good idea IMHO.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A little background info on the Gmail "too many simultaneous connection" problem that recently showed up: earlier versions worked around this with a reconnect delay of 90 second after the internet connection was lost. The most recent versions don't have this delay anymore, but will just retry with increasing waits while suppressing the alert. This is an attempt to prevent the reconnect delay and to reconnect earlier.

However, JavaMail appears to handle out of bound alerts sometimes in band causing the alerts to slip through as an authentication failed error, which is and should be notified directly.

I am not sure if it is better to restore the reconnect delay or to suppress the authentication failed error because there might be more situations where the alert slips through. An advantage of the reconnect delay is that there will be less connection attempts, saving on battery usage.

Anyway, it is a bit of a regression caused by trying to improve things.
[Android Apps and Games] mirhl:
I get this is as-privacy-as-you-can-get and all

And it's even quite funny that you are probably one of the few developers having already implemented SAF properly before it was mandatory

But why in heaven do attachments have to work so painfully?

I have to first save them (say a pdf).. then launch my program of choice and open them from there?

Can't you send an "open" intent to those files?
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
I think doing things correctly and safely takes precedence over doing them fast, here. If it takes longer to sync, so be it.
[Android Apps and Games] cogano:
I see. Thanks.

I got used to that functionality with Nine Email client (closed source, though). Addictive feature.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You shouldn't need to save PDF files first to view them and for me they are opened when I tap on them. In fact an open intent is being sent.

The question is more if you have a suitable viewer installed. Try muPDF for example.

Which viewer are you currently using?

I hope you are using an up-to-date version of FairEmail because this was a problem in now 'very' old versions (actually in the receiving apps not processing the file type correctly).
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Hi,

Scheduled sync don't work anymore for me on 2 devices, since last builds. Don't turn on anymore at 7.30 am for example.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have tested this a few times and it works reliably for me.

Which version of FairEmail are you using?
[Android Apps and Games] _Kingo:
Hey,

is it possible to disable or edit the sender signature globally ? I searched the settings for a while but didn't find anything.

It's a bit unconvenient to uncheck the signature every time If you don't want it. + There's a typo in the german version: "Privatspähre" -> "Privatsphäre"

Thanks in advance!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Setup > step 2 > Manage > tap identity > edit signature > Save.
[Android Apps and Games] _Kingo:
Ah, perfect. Thanks a lot! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Where exact? I don't find it on crowdin.
[Android Apps and Games] _Kingo:
Well in my Version 1.837 (F-Droid) the standard signature says:

"Gesendet mit FairEmail, einer Open-Source-E-Mail-App für Android, die die

Privatspähre

ihrer Nutzer schützt"

I would be willing to contribute but didn't have contact with crowdin before. Do I just have to register and then I can edit the string ?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Yes, after registering on crowdin you can edit all strings. But I think that you also will not find on the actuel crowdin this (wrong) string.
[Android Apps and Games] _Kingo:
Maybe it was wrong when I installed the app :confused: Are crowdin changes repercussive for existing installs ?
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
1.842
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I think that changes on crowdin only are in the app-version(s) which is build after the change.

So on every release-note you see the point 'Updated translations'.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Recent versions have no default signature text anymore, so this text is also not an available on Crowdin anymore.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
A suggestion.

I was recently shopping in a store with poor mobile data access. From within the store I sent several emails to my wife containing numerous images. (It's Christmas shopping season). The emails had trouble going out and stayed trapped (with red exclamation marks) in the 'outbox' and 'operations' folders. Swiping down and other refresh manoeuvres in an attempt to resend did not work. I finally discovered the 'envelope icon' in the opened stuck email which when clicked on resent them out when possible.

My suggestion is, since this is a relatively rare occurance, the user may not remember that clicking on that envelope icon in the opened stuck email is the way to successfully resend the email. Maybe the word 'resend' either in the 3-dot menu or instead of the envelope icon in the opened message might be a clearer indication to the frustrated user when that happens. As mentioned, swiping down in the unified inbox, operations, or outbox folders did not work for me. Whatever the reason for that.

And there was no option i could find to move the stuck email back to the inbox.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That icon is to move the message back to the drafts folder, not to resend the message.

FairEmail will retry to send on each connectivity change and you can pull-down the outbox to manually retry sending.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have found the cause for schedules not working and it should be fixed in the next release.
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
You are the best ! Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
That's logical but for whatever reason they did not resend 'successfully' even though I swiped down repeatedly in the unified box and also in the outbox. FairEmail attempted to resend but did not succeed. The resend finally happened when I got home 45 minutes later under my home wlan. Mobile data connection existed in the store (but not internet i could access) because I could phone my wife but the stuck emails remained stuck. Maybe the problem had to do with FairEmail accessing mobile data even though it was available.

Anyway it is a rare event but frustrating when it happens.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What was the error message in the outbox or the operations list?
[Android Apps and Games] Harshatxda:
App SUGGESTION / NEW feature-

Feature-

An option to be enabled during playback time, which enables to play audio only and disables all video playbacks & their buffering.

Once this is enabled, during a playback screen, the media window can be made blank also as we want to load audio files only.

Uses-

In poor connections.

To save data.

While traveling in remote locations with weak net connectivity.

Stable Audio playback without buffering any video files. No fps requirement.

I can support with some small ideas and changes on the same if required.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't see how this is related to FairEmail.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.843

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

All reported bugs should be fixed now.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I almost took a screenshot of it but sadly did not. Sorry.

But, I just checked the log and it went back far enough.

Jakarta. ....

I cannot add the screenshot of the log here.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Part of log.

I was in the same location in the store throughout.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Read/write errors indicate an unstable internet connection, so I am not surprised sending messages failed.

Next time let FairEmail figure this out. Eventually the messages will be sent.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Not to belabor the point, but there was no internet connection! I did not log into whatever publuc internet the store had. So the only connection available was my mobile data connection which FairEmail elected not to use.

The mobile connection was excellent. I texted my wife repeatedly with no problem during this time.

Maybe FairEmail was trying to use the (maybe existing but not available) store internet instead of the available and functioning mobile data connection. I know nothing about how that choice works.

I did allow FairEmail to try and figure it out. FairEmail did not succeed in figuring it out. The emails only finally went out when I got home and manually refreshed FairEmail again at home where my home wlan was available and logged into. That was at least 45 minutes later if not much more. My setting is for FairEmail to automatically synchronize. So, FairEmail attempted to resend multiple times but always unsuccessfully. The messages did not eventually go out until I manually refreshed at home.....

I'm just providing real life feedback of what actually happened.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The read/write errors are in the log, so there was a problem with the internet connection or maybe with the connection to the email server. Anyway, FairEmail uses whatever connection Android makes available.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
In list folders, the numbers of messages don't match together (see screenshot).

The green arrow is the real value, the red arrow is false (random number).

After a manual sync by swipping down, the numbers match with the real value.

(I see the same issue with the trash folder)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The red arrow shows the number of messages on the server and the green message shows the number of messages on the device. These numbers can be different, considering FairEmail will not synchronize old messages.

What I like to know is which number was updated after the manual sync.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
On the server there was only 1 message, not 13 (I had the webmail in front of my eyes).

The server value (red arrow).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I like to know what happened with the other 12 messages.

Did you delete them using the webmail?
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
I never had 12 messages in the

same time

in my draft folder.

Push seems to fail again (FE v1.843).

I sync manualy at 14h13, messages of 13h55 and 14h02 appear.

I have sent you a debug info.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please send me the debug info (long press 'Support' in the main navigation menu).
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Done a few minutes ago.

Is this problem of push could be related to my mobile provider ?

I changed of provider 10 days ago....
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It seems the keep alive interval is too short for two of the providers (I have replied to the debug info telling which providers).
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
OK. Thanks.

If I understand you correctly,

1. FairEmail just uses whatever internet connection android tells it is available.

2. Android, in my case, must have indicated to FairEmail that internet was 'available' — even though it was not really available because it was a store wifi that I was not logged into. As such, it was not really 'available'.

I'll check my pie android settings to see if there is a setting I can change in android to avoid that situation in the future. Maybe it's just how my phone handles wifi.

Furthermore, FairEmail does not have a setting/option that would enable it — when faced with a persistent 'unstable internet' situation and inability to send emails — to try using mobile data instead. Correct? That would be nice but probably not possible under android.

Thanks for explaining.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is the responsibility of Android to manage internet connectivity. This can obviously not be done by individual apps because it will likely result in all kind of conflicts.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I understand.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.844

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

There are just some small improvements and minor bug fixes and it looks like all the bugs caused by rewriting account management to allow managing individual accounts have been fixed now.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] Poor Grammar:
:eek: I was looking for 43 download and realized it was updated again... Slow down there sir...Nice work btw
[Android Apps and Games] wajool:
Great open source app for privacy conscious people. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] selemine:
Maybe you want to remove the parameters from github notifications too

?email_source=notifications&email_token=AAAEL5NDYKUZMD7PO5FSR3LQYKOFJA5CNFSO4JP4IOC2YY3PKVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGOEGX6OEY#issuecomment-76083
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What is the next website for which parameters needs to be removed? Bottom line: undoable and unmaintainable.

I am happy to add more parameters for removal, but they need to be at least somewhat standard and it should not break things.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Hi,

there is a nice article about FE on xda: https://www.xda-developers.com/fairemail-email-app-privacy-conscious-android/
[Android Apps and Games] JJ111:
Yes, indeed, a great article.

[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]: you fully deserve this ?

---edit---

I commented the article - [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]: hope more people will now use your amazing app!
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
finally. [emoji318]
[Android Apps and Games] otiel:
I got this notification for the first time last night, while in airplane mode:

Airplane mode was already on for 5h. No message in the outbox, no operation pending.

Is that a bug?
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Sorry, still did'nt start today... Latest build.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, this is a minor bug and it will be fixed soon.
[Android Apps and Games] otiel:
In that example, parameters have more purpose than pure tracking only, since they are used to mark the relevant notification as read in your GitHub notifications panel.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.845

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This is a maintenance release and a release candidate for the next stable release, so this would be a good moment to update the translation in your language on Crowdin (registration is free).

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Noticed sync on Gmail is slower for the last few versions. Refresh time set to 15 minutes.

This is noticed over last few days on stable wifi

Do I need to change timings and if so what would you recommend?

Thanks for your time
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There was nothing changed to synchronizing messages recently. What is exactly slower?
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Incoming mails and sent mails appear after considerable delay (I haven't timed them) compared to web version of Gmail.

There was always a delay which I got used to but this is very noticeable now, so in a hurry end up using web mail version.

Nothing has changed on my side, except it used to be 27 minutes which I reduced to 15 as mentioned in recent posts
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please send me the debug info for a check.

Edit: Gmail push messages are mostly near instant, but not always.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks for fixing it.

Scrolling issue resurfacing as I mentioned in the mail. Don't know if it is device specific

Thanks again
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I can't reproduce the scrolling issue.

About [MENTION=6285129]beeshyams[/MENTION] problem: receiving messages was disabled in the receive settings, which is my fault. Formerly, scheduling enabled/disabled the main receive setting, but this is no longer the case since the account management rewrite. Unfortunately, I forgot to write upgrade code to enable FairEmail for when it is being updated when a schedule disabled it. This has been rectified in the most recent releases.

So, you might want to check your receive settings ...
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks.

Also the toggle header display corresponding to the option chosen should change to prevent user error

Edit : To clarify, it should show "disabled" or "enabled" as per the toggle state
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What should exactly be changed/improved?
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Please see the screenshots. I am suggesting that "enabled" or "disabled" should change according to the toggle state.

Now it shows "enabled" in both cases which is confusing and more so in translation ambiguity in other languages
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
IMHO the title and the state of the switch, on or off, is pretty clear.

We can talk about the title, but changing the title depending on the state of the switch doesn't seem a good idea to me.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Politely disagree. I got foxed for a few moments when you pointed out the problem on mail and re-read. It then struck me that title may be adaptive to toggle state

I think the title is fine
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Suppose somebody does turn the switch off and the title changes in "disabled": this would negate what the switch means and could be interpreted "if I turn the switch on, things will be disabled".
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
You have a valid point which brings to the other suggestion of appropriate wording-- I am at a loss but maybe others can pitch in.

Confused to give a workable suggestion but there is a problem lurking
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I guess changing "Enabled" in "Receive messages" would be an improvement since the switch already indicates enabled/disabled.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Makes sense to me
[Android Apps and Games] Indranil0:
Can I kill all operations? There showing 3739 operations and still increasing.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please read the remark above the operations.

The questions is more why are the operations piling up. Is there a problem with the account connection? Is there any error message showing?
[Android Apps and Games] Indranil0:
I'm new user I selected all then mark as read, maybe I did some repeated actions. The notification is synchronizing 1 accounts 4236(+) operations pending
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please check the account list (setup, step 1, manage) and the operations list (main navigation/hamburger menu, operations) for any errors.

You can tap the question mark icon in the operations list to see what the operations exactly do.

As long as the operations are being processed, which might take a while, there is no problem. Just have some patience until the sync has been completed.

Most email apps do not expose what they are exactly doing, but FairEmail does.
[Android Apps and Games] Indranil0:
Yes I have seen its marking as read. But can I kill these operations? Without wiping data:D

And why operations are rapidly increasing? I didn't do any action after that.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Operations have a purpose, so no, not without side effects, like for example the message not being marked read on the server.
[Android Apps and Games] f465gt:
Hi people,

is there a way to cluster mails based on the sender address? I would like to see e. g. all mails from YouTube.com as one cluster, or thread. Add far as I understand the settings I cam group mails based on the topics, like conversations. But this is a different case.

Thanks in advance!

Sebastian
[Android Apps and Games] Gothorian:
Problems & censors.

Hi! I downloaded FairEmail from Fdroid (Because FairEmail is not available in my country, according to Google Play, im from Argentina). The thing is that I could add my Outlook account without problems, but when adding a Gmail account does not allow me, telling me that "The authorization of google accounts will only work in official versions since android checks the signature of the application", honestly I do not know what it talks about if I have everything official. What is the problem?

PD: And I don't understand why Google play censors your application in my country. I feel very ridiculous.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
You quote the whole OP (which is quite useless), but you don't use the main source of download.

I help you, it begins by Git...... :D
[Android Apps and Games] Gothorian:
Edited, thanks man. Generally i dont download things from git. But, yeah, u have right, the git source works. Thanks! But still i dont understand why Google censors some apps in my country, like this one. :/
[Android Apps and Games] Vudu.:
Not available in my country

It says "This item isn't available in your country. (Argentina)". I do not understand, it was available before. I had installed in my previous phone which was an LG G3, now I bought a Samsung S9 and I cannot reinstall the app.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can sort on sender via the action bar/menu. Alternatingly, you can search for similar messages using the magnify glass in the addresses section of a message.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail is not available in a number of countries where people too often leave unfair/unreasonable reviews, including Argentina.

FairEmail has gone through a lengthy verification process with Google for approval of the Gmail quick setup wizard. This approval was only given for official builds (Play store and GitHub). Differently signed builds, like the F-Droid build, are not approved. F-Droid could ask for approval too, but this will likely not happen.

Anyway, use the GitHub release instead:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/README.md#user-content-downloads
[Android Apps and Games] Gothorian:
Yes, you are very right, being a review reader, I know with certainty that Latin Americans are very bad at giving reviews of all kinds (Unfortunately)

Yeah, I already downloaded the Git version and it works great. Thank you very much.
[Android Apps and Games] PastagaCigales:
I understand your logic, though it depends on how you access your mailbox. Using several devices, I, on the contrary, consider that syncing mail deletions is unsafe, as an unwanted erasure on one device will spread to all local copies of the mail account, and so there will be no way to recover the mail, wereas as I proceed today, if I lose my mails on one device, they will be on the othee ones.

The reason why I sometimes delete mails on the server but want to keep them on my phone is that I use my mail account for different purposes, and so do I with the devices I use to access my mailbox.

Obviously, if nobody else requests this kind of feature, you have no reason to add it.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a trash folder to undo accidental deletes.

Messages you want to keep for specific reasons can be moved to specific folders.

Anyway, for now I don't see a good reason to add this. Note that everything that is being added needs to be maintained and supported too, which can get problematic in the end if each and every feature is being added, which is called "feature creep".
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.846

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version was mainly released to fix a rare crash caused by a bug in some older Android versions.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] f465gt:
That's a different use case. I would like to have the mails grouped/clustered by sender, like this: https://bluemail.help/what-is-cluster-mode/

It means that you only see one entry per sender and all messages are collected in a collapse-able tree structure.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't see why that would be useful. How are the messages of the sender, potentially quite old, related to each other?