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[Android Apps and Games] chanh2018:
After install ver 1.1118 over ver 1.1112 (in Play store), the toggle Text size (at upper right corner) is no longer working.

Nevermind.....Reset to default in Display will bring this function back
[Android Apps and Games] gimpy1:
CW18 NO [OVERQUOTA] Over quota (Failure) CW18 NO [OVERQUOTA] Over quota (Failure)

Can you tell me what the above message means? I received that message on two separate occasions when sending a message via a websites ordering process. My question is, "did the message get sent and received" by the company?

The error sends me to your question and answer section which says,

"(130) What does message error ... mean?

A series of lines with orangish or red texts with technical information means that debug mode was enabled in the miscellaneous settings."

The message shows up orangish in color on my phone. And I'm not sure what the debug mode is referring to.

I do need to know if the message was sent, though, as it's in response to something I ordered online.

Thx.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will look into it again.

[MENTION=670396]smw6180[/MENTION] it will be fixed in the next release.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
My best guess is that your mailbox is full.
[Android Apps and Games] The_Two:
Since a few weeks i have recognized that when I synchronize the mails by pulling down in a folder the view does not schroll to the top when new mails are loaded. In the "Sammeleingang" it scrolls to the top.

Is this intended?

I use the current Play Store version.
[Android Apps and Games] NothingCanHurtMe:
Hey, I'm new to trying out FairEmail. Have been a K-9 Mail user for nearly a decade, but since upgrading my phone to a stock Android 10 (my old device ran 6.0) device, I've been having some issues getting it to work right with IMAP IDLE and getting messages and notifications to arrive in realtime. I suspect newer versions of Doze are the culprit; but even after adding it to the whitelist I've still had issues. So I thought I would try something more up-to-date and under active development. FairEmail seems to check all those boxes.

So far, I'm liking a lot about FairEmail. It's obvious to me that it has many, many features and options while remaining lightweight in size. It's getting harder and harder to find email apps that work well with more traditional email servers that follow open standards (ie, IMAP, POP3). I've been getting frustrated asking for advice on email clients to use for Android other than K-9, and 99% of the answers I get are along the lines of "just use Gmail." It's like most Android users have just given up on having strong, independent email support on their devices. So I really commend FairEmail for sticking by those principles.

My main criticisms of the app are quite minor. I find the options/settings menu to be very confusing and cluttered. That is a shame because it is the first thing you see when you launch the app, which probably turns many people off. But once you get it set up, the main interface (folder views, mail list views) is very clean and usable.

Also some of the language/terminology in the English version, anyway, just seems a bit... awkward/"off". It comes across as being quite transparent that the app is being developed mainly by one person, for whom English is not their first language. That's not a criticism of the developer at all; just suggestion that some help from native speakers might assist in tweaking some of the language a bit.

Right now this app is easily 4.5 stars and could be 5 stars with some UI cleanup. Has the dev considered commissioning a usability study? Even an informal one might be helpful. Also, is the dev accepting patches? Since FairEmail is FOSS, I wouldn't mind diving into the source a bit and hacking around and possibly submitting patches in the future.

Thanks again for creating a great app that I'm still having fun testing. I think I need to give it a good week, test-driving it as my daily driver before I formulate a more fulsome opinion on it.
[Android Apps and Games] gimpy1:
Thx, Marcel. I have spent the last 4 hours or so trying to delete everything in my emails using the Gmail and Outlook apps themselves (not fairemail).

I think I have pretty much succeeded.

Thx, again.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

On latest Version

I created a new folder in Gmail, can see it in Gmail folders. However, when I try to "move" a message to this new folder, it doesn't appear in the "move to" menu

Just to be sure, force synced Gmail a couple of times but it doesn't help

Edit : Can't see in "copy to" menu also
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I can't reproduce this issue and there is no difference between handling of new messages for unified or individual folders.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The settings screen has already gone through several iterations, but I am always open to suggestions for improvements.

Note that setting up an email account is most of the times easy with the quick setup wizard, but that there must be a more traditional way of setting up accounts too. There have been quite some bad ratings like "I can't setup IMAP/SMTP" when the traditional way of setting up was more hidden. There are many more considerations and experience like this which made the setup screen what it is now.

Regarding English text: please tell me what should be improved.

I don't have the means for a usability study.

Patches are welcome, but always contact me first to tell about your plans to prevent disappointments.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure what this is about [MENTION=5420028]gimpy1[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] kost7:
Hey Marcel, thanks for FairEmail.

I am having a problem with spam handling.

A couple of senders whose previous messages were delivered normally are now (wrongly) recognised as spam and the emails are put in the spam folder. The problem is that no matter how many times I select 'not spam', the message disappears for a second (presumably going to inbox) but immediately after, it returns to spam. The same happens when I select the 'move to ...' choice.

The only way to save the message is to move it to an another email's account inbox. Am I doing something wrong?

I am using v1.1112 from Google Play.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Is folder synchronization disabled in the receive settings?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1119 Citipati is available on GitHub for download.

Changelog:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The version adds a big new feature I have been working on lately: custom rendering of reformatted messages for more control on how messages are being displayed. This feature is an experimental option, which you'll need to enable in the miscellaneous options.

Custom rendering will be faster, use less memory and will be more accurate. You'll soon notice that there will be less white space and that bulleted and numbered list will be shown nicer. I would like to hear if message look better now.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
No, "Sync folder list" enabled, as always

Edit : I can see the folder on web [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please long press the inbox in the folder list, select to edit the rules and check if there is a rule for the sender.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I guess the folder is unavailable for IMAP.

Please see this FAQ how you can fix this:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq141
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Custom rendering works really good! Reduces white space, makes the mails much more readable!

:good::good::good:
[Android Apps and Games] kost7:
Thanks for the prompt reply.

I checked and double-checked, but I could not find any matching rule. I hardly ever used the 'block domain' option, so I don't know what the reason was. Anyway, I went ahead and deleted all rules and the message did get moved to the inbox - so all is fine now.

While I was at it, I could not find any option to bulk delete all rules - did I miss that, or is it the way it is?
[Android Apps and Games] flotux:
Hi,

I installed the latest version from GitHub and now the move to folder function does not work correctly anymore. When selecting am email and using the function move to folder only the folders Inbox, Spam and Sent are shown. If I search for the folder "Newsletter" it is shown in the selection list. But I cannot move the current mail to this folder.

In previous version I saw in the move to screen all subscribed IMAP folders.

As a test I also enabled the experimental features but that didn't make any difference.

Any idea for this behaviour?

Kind regards

Florian
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
The settings for this have IMAP enabled and identical to all other folders that show up

I don't think this is the reason , since I have been creating folders on the fly very often (though not lately) and never had an issue. IDK if another recent post with difficulty in moving is connected

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will auto remove block sender rules:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/76a0ff9ba844899381f015ba469b0e3fc79c642a
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am looking into it now ...
[Android Apps and Games] gimpy1:
This was your answer to me when I asked you about an error message I was receiving. So, I went in and erased every (several thousand) email messages that I could find, :D.

Thx.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1120 Citipati is available on GitHub for download.

Changelog:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version was released to fix not all folders always showing. This was caused by an earlier "optimization".

Blocked sender/domain rules will automatically be removed when moving a spam message box to the inbox (there is a little inbox icon/button for this).

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Does this mean that all rules created so far for spam senders will be null and void. I don't think that's what you meant or I am missing the point
[Android Apps and Games] flotux:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

I installed the updated version and now the move of emails works again.

Thanks for the fast correction.

Your app is really awesome!
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Fixed :) :good:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Only the rule for the sender of the message you are moving from the spam folder to the inbox will be deleted.

When this isn't done, the message will automatically be moved back to the spam folder by the rule, which is most likely not what you want.
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
Thanks for the fast add of the new rule setting.

You are awesome!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail will show the available space on the email server in the subtitle of the folders list, if the server supports this. The list of accounts in the setup will show this in more detail.
[Android Apps and Games] The_Two:
Hello Marcel,

I tried in which situations this happens on my phone. It only happens in the inbox folder (in multiple accounts) that, when manually synchronizing by pulling down the message list, it does not scroll to the top. So the new messages are not visible, and i have to scroll up manually.

In all non standard folders and the unified folders it works as expected.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Just to be sure: the message are new and unread and were not downloaded earlier?

Edit: the messages need to be newer than the date/time the account was created and it will work for IMAP accounts only.
[Android Apps and Games] The_Two:
Yes, the messages are "new" ones , but it could be that they were downloaded by a collection service a view minutes before, but are not marked as read.

So they were not downloaded by FairEmail, but by another server of my provider. I did not know that in this case something is changed on the IMAP server.

I have tried it. When the message is really new, it scrolls up.

Is there a reason for this behavior? For my usecase I would not expected this behaviour.

Thanks for your instant and perfect support.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I can only tell that the message needs to be new and downloaded unread from the server to let the message list scroll up.
[Android Apps and Games] boa05:
Hi, now that the protonmail app became opensource, would it be possible to add support for it in FairEmail?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1121 Citipati is available on GitHub for download.

Changelog:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version optimizes a few things, hopefully this time without side effects.

The new custom rendering for reformatted messages is enabled by default now and support for subscript and superscript was added.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] Stirius:
Hello,

thanks for your application which I started to use after having a new phone and not having notifications based on labels. However, there are few very important things not working as we need...

1. aliases - I have a lot of aliases with google, people writing to our eshop support email or different ones. In gmail it was simple, I just answered the email and my aliases where the email was sent to was used. However here just the main account and email is used and I cannot change it. I cannot even use other aliases to send emails. This is "a must' for us and our business.

2. is it possible to add an icon directly to the email to mark it as unread and to copy it to a different folder? Without the need to click the three dots or search for it somewhere else? We use it a lot and it's quite complicated now to use it as we cannot put it directly to the email.

3. Is it possible to have two folders in the same notification channels? For example, we have one for paid orders via paypal and one for card payment. It is not necessary to have different channels for them, we just need one different sound and now we need to create to channels which then takes more space in the notification area.

4. templates from Google are not working. We have several templates prepared for emails in gmail however they are visible here as drafts and it's not possible to work with them at all

There are few more minor issues but I can't remember them now...

Best regards,

Karel
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can enable editing of the username of the email address in the identity settings: setup, step 2, tap Manage tap identity, tap Advanced.

You might want to disable automatically marking messages read in the advanced account settings. You can move a message via the folder icon just above the message text.

It is not possible to have one notification channel for two folders and I have no plans to add this because almost nobody will need this and it would complicated both the source code and usage of FairEmail. Suggestion: use the account notification channel and create notification channels for the other folders.

Gmail templates are proprietary and not exposed to third party apps. Note that FairEmail has templates too, which works for all email providers.
[Android Apps and Games] Stirius:
Thanks for answering. Just that read unread issue, well, in 90% I want them automatically as read but sometimes I want to mark them as unread and having the icon right at the top together with spam, folder etc. would be great to have...
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Just double tap...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Which needs to be enabled first ...
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
Hey [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION], I noticed that Delete permanently from the three dots menu in MessageAdapter doesn't work for Gmail unless the message is in the trash. I guess it's because the message is still in the All mail folder. Permanently deleting should delete it everywhere. Thanks for looking into this.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail will send a delete command to the email server, so this is more a Gmail oddity. Nevertheless, I will see what I can do.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=5445418]Dark_Eyes_[/MENTION] can you please test this:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/06cdd66ae2a5a11073699cc0647764bd7e8718e5

Note that the intention is to prevent permanent deletion of the same message in (other) user folders (=messages with a label in Gmail).

Edit: have have reverted this commit because there will still be a risk the wrong messages are being deleted.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Is grouping or making lists (pre-defined) of addresses to send a mail possible?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can define groups in the Android contacts app, which might be useful for other apps too, and insert a group via the three-dots menu of the message composer.

Edit: there is a new FAQ about this: https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq152
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1122 Citipati is available on GitHub for download.

Changelog:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version was released to fix a crash in the new implementation of rendering reformatted messages.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] Stirius:
I mean setting as unread when you are already in the details reading it. You can double tap in the list, not while having it opened...
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
You can do that too - with the icon on the right below the text.
[Android Apps and Games] Stirius:
Ah, there is another small icon... It would make sense to move it to the position where all the icons are already (there is enough place to do it) not to spread it to more places. It's just confusing...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
On smaller screens there is not enough space and mostly you'll need the icon/button after reading the message, which is why it is at the end of the message, close to where the thumb of most people is.
[Android Apps and Games] Stirius:
I understand, but could you add the option to choose what icons to have at the top of the email? Then everyone would be happy... ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
IMHO there are already enough options, arguably even too many.
[Android Apps and Games] Stirius:
Yes, but this is already done, you can choose what to show in the body of the email, moving etc. So having one more enable/disable option would not harm it in any way as it is quite clear...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
At the gas station:

What does a drop of gasoline cost?

Nah, nothing.

Can you please drip my tank full?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
Thanks, I understand why you reverted it. By the way, it wouldn't have worked because the file has to be in trash or junk to really be deleted. If there is only a single message in archive (no labels or anything), using the delete option does nothing. Any chance you look into that particular case? (No risk of accidentally deleting a message because there only is one...)
[Android Apps and Games] Stirius:
Okey, you said that using gmail templates is impossible which I understand. However, I wanted to take and copy it to the application but as far as I can see, it's just a plain text. I am not able to use and copy there images. Is it possible to make templates using html? Thank you.

Edit: also it would be nice to say or tell others that it is not possible to use gmail templates. They appeared in drafts and when I was working with it and then deleted the draft, it disappeared also in my main gmail account and the template was simply gone, which is not good at all...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can copy HTML to templates, but attachments are not supported.

Edit: I will consider to add this, but it will be a lot of work and I am not sure if it would be worth while because it is not asked for frequently.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Is it actually possible to set a different font size (only) for mails from certain senders without this having the same effect on all others?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, this is not possible.

If you want to highlight messages from selected people, you can use rules to add colored stars.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Thank you, it's a pity, a highlighting is not necessary - only with certain senders the font is smaller than with others.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can't have everything, sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Thanks, it's okay. ...... I only just wanted to know if maybe now, with the new reformatting, it's possible.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] Spoke too soon! Unfortunately it's back on the latest version.

Same folder /behavior as I shared on mail earlier
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1123

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds support for images in templates [MENTION=5406377]Stirius[/MENTION]

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just added a folder to a Gmail account and when I try to move a message the folder is listed.

Please make sure the folder isn't grey anymore (grey means the folder is yet to be added).
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
No, it isn't grey, it's a folder created few days ago. Screenshots show folder not grey (normal) and it not appearing in the alphabetical order

Edit : [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] Now it shows, glitchy behavior
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Glitchy is not likely, so there is probably another explanation.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Drafts don't get deleted on Gmail

I delete drafts, they are deleted temporarily, and re-appear even after a sync. G mail drafts folder shows them being present at the time of reporting and even after a few syncs

I reported this on mail to [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] and he couldn't reproduce

If anyone else finds similar behavior, please quote this and report

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Did you already double check the identity used for the draft?
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Yes Marcel, it's correct. I shared details on mail

Edit : I don't see this mail in sent folders of other IDs so it belongs to this Gmail account only
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I can't reproduce it and given how deleting messages works, I don't see an obvious explanation for it as well.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Let me know if I can help troubleshoot

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION], I too have been stuck with a draft that wouldn't delete. It's been awhile and I don't remember what account (most likely Outlook but maybe it was Gmail) and how I made it disappear. I've been deleting a bunch of drafts in all accounts ever since withour any problems though... I'll report if this happens again.

About my deleting issue in Gmail, have you been able to reproduce it [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]? It seems that the Delete permanently option in the menu doesn't work in Gmail except if the message is already in the trash or junk folder. Weird how messages are handled by Gmail. I don't think the solution is to delete every similar messages, but maybe move the particular message. id to the trash and then delete it?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Gmail messages, not in the trash or spam folder, can be deleted completely only by deleting the corresponding message in the archive folder. The (indirect) problem with that is that the message will be deleted from all folders (labels).
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
I have tried to delete a Gmail message that is only in the archive folder with the Delete permanently option and it doesn't work. I have to move it to trash and then delete it. That's not very convenient...

I understand that an inbox message will also be in the archive folder, and deleting it from the inbox won't delete the message from the archive, but that's a different usecase.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
For me deleting a message from the archive folder deletes the message from all folders. Note that the folders need to be set to synchronize to let FairEmail follow the delete.