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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] HDG:
hello,

at the moment, ubuntu project is just for intel device built with atom processor and is just specific device built by intel ( intel phone), but in the futur probably became reality for another device...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thentertaina:
ahh that makes sense.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DeepThought:
Had the TyTN 1 also had a dualcore processor?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] milesmowbray:
Qualcomm or not both cores are ARM based and there are plenty versions of ARM linux. It's reverse engineering the drivers for all the various parts of the device that is hard, but it is definately not insurmountable.

The Mio A701 has a pretty usable linux port, everything works on it including the phone part and this is a fairly recent device.

http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/MitacMioA701

Looks like someone is working on this already:

http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHandheldSummary

Android is just a layer on top of Linux and should be straight forward to port once some devices are out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cr2:
Hermes uses 2 separate CPUs: Samsung S3C2442 and Qualcomm MSM6275.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cr2:
CDMA uses MSM7500, and WCDMA(UMTS) is MSM7200.

They have different DSP parts.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] marbalon:
I found something very promising...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XbgzgJgTY8I
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] UKTamo:
Anyone know who the person on the youtube video is?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
I wouldn't take too much from that video.

Firstly, they never show linux booting all the way...becuase it probably doesn't..no drivers to access anything.

Secondly they are launching linux from within WM6...basically emulating it. Even though a VM for WM6 that allows the booting of other OSes sounds like a neat idea, I can't believe it would be practical. The phones run slow enough without any emulation.

When you see a video of a straight boot all the way to a command shell...now that would be the beginning of something usable...

Personally, I don't think I would want linux on my Kaiser. I suppose if

everything

worked (touch flo, keyboard, all data connections, gps) and it had a faster speed then I would think about it. Otherwise I don't see the point. No one is trying to hack into my mobile phone...I don't have very good network options (no LAN, no promiscuous wi-fi) to use all the good linux tools. And, as much as I like command prompt...not on my Kaiser/Tilt.

If there are any valid uses (other than novelty) to have linux on a Kaiser I'd like to know, because it would probably be worlds easier to develop a WM application to get the functionality that you think linux would provide.

Don't get me wrong...I'd try it the day a first stable linux ROM came out, but if it didn't have all the features above, I would soon be flashing back to WM6+
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] milesmowbray:
Your first point is probably right, your second is not quite. The software used to boot linux on Windows Mobile devices is called Haret and can be seen in that video, it is not an emulator but a boot loader.

http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET

The video stops because the rest of the drivers aren't there yet, probably. It's a pretty good start though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
ahh thanks Miles, i was unaware of that application.

I was squinting to try to read ANYTHING on that you tube screen. All i could really make out was the penguin :) I assumed based on the GUI look of it that they were in WM already.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] livefastdiefun87:
I hate threads like this. Just when you think damn someones done it its a question not an answer lol. Got ubuntu on my laptop yellow dog on my ps3 would love a distro on my kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Just out of curiosity... why?

Again, other than the novelty of it, what practical purpose would having linux on the Kaiser serve? What would it allow you to do in an easier way that can't be done currently?

This is a

genuine

question as I would have to question my willingness to use it if it were ever released.

The only thing i could see the usefullness is if I actually wanted to let's say write and test a bash script while I'm on the train, or do some other development work that required a linux box. As far as actually utilizng the functions of the phone...what would be the point?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dperren:
I'd say that speed, stability, and power would be the disadvantages - they'd have to be balanced with the possible loss of features (at least in the short term) however.

Windows Mobile feels 'messy' to me. It bogs down quickly, and doesn't seem very logically organised, nor particularly easy to use with a touchscreen + stylus. I'd like to hope that an alternative OS that has been thought out from scratch, rather than been iteratively built on years worth of technology would be superior - rather like the iPhone operating system.

The additional power (at possible expense of complexity) would also be useful. I used my Linux coomputer to rescue thousands of family photos that would have otherwise been extremely difficult, it not impossible, to access yesterday. No way was I going to manage that on Windows.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
The more features you put in the slower the system gets...true with anything.

I would prefer not to sacrifice the abilities of my phone to get a slight bit more stability (I think it's pretty stable as it).

If you want it faster and more stable, use a clean ROM and don't install extras..it works pretty smooth.

I do both Windows and Linux systems and I don't know that i would want to deal with hacking linux together on my handheld.

Were someone to come out with a fully functional linux based OS for this phone, with all the features that we have in WM then i would consider it.

I guess the difference is being able to RUN linux on the phone, or having the entire phone base off of linux... I wouldn't really care about the former, and the latter as I said...if it had all the features plus added stability and speed...otherwise it wouldn't be worth it.

Of course, I'm not the one who is going to hack it together (I don't know linux and coding THAT well :) )... but I'm sure somebody with a grudge will try to find a way!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] masterdude656:
I dont think it needs to have a practical purpose to be honest. More so, its the matter of choice and having a decision on what to run on the hardware the user buys. A lot of good ideas and inventions never came out of practicality, but because boredom set in. People love change, and new things, and this strives for different projects and what not, leading to bigger and better things.

Yes your question is a valid one, but to answer it, it wouldnt be just for novelty, or at least not for me, it would be because if I had a choice between running Windows CE or Linux on my cellphone, Linux wins by a long shot because I believe a well developed kernal based on the hardware would fly alot faster then Windows CE has proven on our Kaisers/Tilt, but then again, all forms of Linux is community driven, so it always depends who is willing to develop it, and how many pitch in.. Im know a big Linux fan either, so dont call me bias, because I am a very big gamer, and people who run Linux and try to game knows that WINE isnt exactly the best to run some games in, and thats why I keep vista x64 on my desktop, Ubuntu on my laptop, and Gentoo on my PS3 (now that is Novelty mostly :p )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thentertaina:
heres another threadthat i thits very related

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=383695
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
I don't necessarily disagee with anything you say... and boredom can breed invention. But aren't there phones out there that run an OS that is linux based? I guess I would go buy one of those if that's what I wanted. I am not biased at MS either...as I am also a linux user.

Your second paragraph also proves my point in that it is a novelty unless a whole lot of "ifs" are answered (is it more stable? faster? as feature rich?). Again I don't think the distinction at the beginning (which is clearer now) as to wanting to a)

run linux on your phone

or b)

have your phone run on linux

. As stated I don't see much a point in a), but b), if it had all the features and speed could be a good choice. Unfortunately I think we are a very long way away from seeing that come to reality. Because as you state, it is user driven...are there enought Kaiser linux developers out there? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Sess:
I must object to your negativity sir...

You seem to have this preconceived notion that everyone thinks the way you do. Im a sharp Zarus SL-C3100 owner, and Ill tell you that that is the best pda I've ever owned. For an ordinary user, a linux pda wouldn't be pointless, it would be a change of pace. For a power user (a real power user, not the self proclaimed who are feel defined by the simplistic fact they can navigate a little on the console), its can be a mobile workstation. I did a lot of application development on my Zaurus, C++, Obj-C, and some php based web development while on the go. It has been an invaluable tool to me, a bit on the large side however. I bought a universal in order to continue the trend with more integrated hardware for net access (at least wifi worked in linux as well as gpe at the time). If I can get my tilt running linux, especially GPE and have the wcdma radio work, that would be a godsend. Right now, I have a device that can't reach its full potential, and I have to SSH into one of my boxes in order to get my work done. While thats suitable, its nothing compared to native development. I like to have my tools with me. This is only one small example of how my Zaurus was an integral part of my every day life as a hobbyist and a professional. Regardless Im sure a hundred different people could name 100 different reasons for wanting to run linux on their workstations, the same way many pc owners may choose to run osx on their pc's and laptops. Just because it doesn't fit your lifestyle or make sense to you, doesn't make the project useless or pointless to everyone else. Sometimes we need a paradigm shift to see other uses for those things we've just accepted as inevitable. You should be more supportive of the hobbyists and developers who spend the time trying to give you an alternative to the slap dash garbage that some companies give you because there is no other choice. Finally I'd like to say that there are a lot of people like me who purchased the Kaiser because of its specs. From a hardware standpoint, its a mobile device dream machine. Just like my universal, who's linux kernels I've watch support more and more hardware over the years (until now where almost all of its hardware is fully supported in linux), I'll keep the kaiser and watch as support under linux improves to the point where it becomes the ultimate device. If you look at hardware specs from devices in the last 3-4 years, they're not changing much, the kaiser is going to be the cream of the crop for a while. There's no good reason that I can't get a nice car because they don't offer seats in the color I want- I shouldn't be told I should go look for a different car with those seats- A good modder will come along in no time and offer me the aftermarket modifications Im wanting, especially if its as popular in the community as linux is in ours.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] masterdude656:
Exactly! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gthing:
You ... must be joking...

I know everyone thinks windows mobile is great and all, but I for one have NEVER felt that it offered me a great user experience. It's stable, yea, but it's slow, quirky, annoying to use, and not designed for users in any way.

It is designed for features - and I admit it is a feature-rich phone. But even before I bought it, I knew it's "fun factor" could only go so far. I in no way believe Window Mobile is a great operating system but I tolerate it for the features.

What if we had a mobile operating system that was fast, stable, feature rich, and a pleasure to use? What if Windows Mobile and OS X had a baby - taking the best features from both?

If you really just want to settle for Windows Mobile, that's fine. I say never put linux on your phone. As for me, I don't like to keep the bar so low I can step over it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cr2:
One half of your kaiser is already running Linux (this is the Pistachio microkernel controlling the phone/DSP), it's just not visible. Why do you think did Qualcomm and HTC decide not to use wince there ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dperren:
Alternatively it was because it did what they needed it to do - with any future upgrades being a bonus. WM does nearly everything I need it to do, but I don't like using it. I'd much prefer a Linux option, but since that isn't available, WM is the next best thing. If such a thing does become available, then brilliant ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
I agree with that statement to the effect that if ANYTHING comes along that give me all the features I want at a faster speed with more stability then I will use it. i don't know why anyone would argue with that!

But I don't agree with preferring the linux option over WM. Again, if the linux option give me the criteria above then great I'm on it! But just because they were to release a linux based ROM doesn't mean I would use it if it didn't meet my needs. Heck, someone may release an OS/2 based phone ROM that performs the best...and I'd use it :p

Realistically... I see the following happening: Sometime in the next 6 months someone gets linux to boot on this phone (to the effect that it can be used as a mini-workstation). Within the next year someone gets an actual kernel that give us phone functionality and base drivers so we can actually run a linux phone and get "basic" functionality. Over the next year (so year two now) this continues to get developed. Maybe at the end of year two we have a pretty nice functioning linux-based phone.

However, the tweaking and customization to really get it to function like an equivalent WM based phone probably wouldn't make it worth my time at this point to switch. That isn't to say it isn't everything you would hope for in terms of speed and functionality. But I must admit I think it takes more work to customize linux based apps then windows based ones. So, for me (again PERSONALLY...I am not saying defacto) I don't know if all the effort i put into tweaking my phone would be worth it. It's funny that most of us are guilty on spending so much time tweaking things in hopes they run better...faster...to save us time, but in reality we waste 10x as much time in messing around with them. I'm not saying this is bad, as it is an obsession and the nature of the beast.

By the time it got to this I would most likely be off my 2-year contract and have a new phone that contrary to what others have stated will probably be quite a bit more powerful than what is available now. I only paid $100 for my tilt, so i am not tied to it as if i had bought an $800 Kaiser that I think is going to be my homebase for 5 years.

But, that's not to say i wouldn't load linux on my 2-year old kaiser and carry it around too (albeit in the backpack and not the hip)!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dperren:
For me, it depends on the level of devlopment that goes on. The thing I'm not going to do is run Linux for the sake of it - if it can't sync with Outlook, connect to my car via Bluetooth, get my email, make calls, text, use GPS and WiFi, and all the stuff my current phone does, then I won't be using it.

I've made that mistake on my desktop before - installing Linux before it's really desktop ready. It only results in frustration and decreased productivity, which is totally counter-intuitive.

However, the recent developments with Anderoid look extremely promising.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkLordLP:
My friend is trying to fix camera bug on oreo custom rom. But in logcat it says: cant find camera id error. How to fix it? Help please!

Xiaomi redmi note 5A
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] beijing999923:
someone can help me ?
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] D302Thakur:
I'm using AEX 5.7 simply, but not satisfied with that.

Just looking what other people are using/liking !
[Oppo Realme 1  Questions & Answers] galaxynova:
People as i wanted to buy new phone...i m heavily confused between real me 1 and note 5pro...at one place realme 1 has AI processors and other has good battery backup,xda support....can anybody please suggest which phone to buy....it will be highly appreciated
[Oppo Realme 1  Questions & Answers] abhi.s4u:
if u r happy with

no finger print

no notification light

no front flash

no root(yet)

little less price thn note5 pro

AI intelligence

thn go for realme 1 choice is urs..

from my view if hv budget to buy note5 pro go for it
[Oppo Realme 1  Questions & Answers] galaxynova:
Everything i can tolerate other than color OS ?....will go for Redmi Note 5 pro,thanks for support
[Oppo Realme 1  Questions & Answers] Dinkar18:
Used note 5 pro for 2 months and using realme 1 from last 2 weeks. I will suggest u to go with note 5 pro.

Choose realme coz of comfortable grip in hand, lightweight and attractive design.

Note 5 pro is good in battery backup, camera (realme is no where close. Relame has artificial type camera. Over exposed pictures whereas note 5 pro have wayyyyy better and near to real output), software (miui is better and u can have root access too) and overall good too coz its Snapdragon processor and gives better support. Though buying a note 5 pro can be the biggest issue (flash sales ?)
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers] Alpha:
Hi, have been wanting to get the Mi 8 for a while as I prefer it over the Oneplus 6, but I was wondering when would a custom ROM actually come out for this phone? Or any idea on some sort of time span? As I'm not keen on using the MIUI and would rather have like the Pixel Experience or something stock instead with the spec and the camera of the Mi 8.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers] bassbounce:
I think active development is starting after Android P is released.

Android P does have notch compatibly so the os will function normally.

Anyway, give it some time this device is a few weeks old mostly development starts after some months.

BTW I moved from a Oneplus 6 to a Xiaomi Mi 8!
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers] Alpha:
Okay thank you! and what made you want to move from a Oneplus 6 to a Mi 8 and whats you're experience of it all?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers] -fluffy-:
may i ask why u didt mobe feom op6 to mi8

i have them both
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers] Alpha:
Whats your opinion of them both?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers] bassbounce:
The haptic feedback on the Mi 8 is massively better, and I like the camera on the Mi 8 more and the size.

I had a few ago a note 4 got much fun of it, and I went away from Xiaomi because the lcd quality was horrible.

So since the Mi 8 has a amoled Samsung panel it was a insta buy for me.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers] -fluffy-:
well i think mi8 is a nice phone

but wont give up my op6 for it
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers] ZeNiXxX:
Waiting till kernel sources will be out for dipper ... thats the only thing that is left to start building
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers] gugugrp:
The handset does not appear to have been launched in its Global variant yet. I think this is part of the slow development.
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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rach86:
hello guys my phone got bricked and enter a state of endless bootloop

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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] S.N.A.P:
hello everyone

I just got a redmi note 4 SD 3 days ago, after a year and a half with my Sony Z

I'll be able to unlock bootloader tonight and get a custom ROM running

currently I have these choices : AOSiP, Cardinal AOSP, AICP, FireHound, RR, dotOS

I want a stable rom with balance between performance and battery, good SOT and suit for daily driver

so if anyone can give a recommendation, I would very appreciate ^^

thank you all ^^
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] gigiotd:
MIUI is the best choice!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] k3lcior:
I see we have new comedian on the forums
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] gigiotd:
He wants a stable rom, good battery, good performance...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] MyNameIsRage:
You should try out with something stock-ish aosp like los 15.1 . After you've used it for a while, you would be having a basemark in terms of battery life and performance. After that you are free to use whichever rom you want.

And according to me in general los extended by alexey711 has always given me the best battery life. And the performance is just great too.:good:

---------- Post added at 02:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:52 PM ----------

what's the problem in it?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] S.N.A.P:
first of all, thank you ^^

and yes, I know a lot about LOS back in the days with my Sony Z

but I want a little bit of customization and some small features as well so I didn't put LOS in the list

I just flashed AICP latest build earlier along with ElectraBlue kernel and Magisk, so far so good,no bugs, gonna test for a few more days

again thank you, I'll take a look at your choice when I finishing testing this ROM ^^
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] saransh arya:
Yes I noticed it too!?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] gigiotd:
Anyone tried pixel experience?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] S.N.A.P:
had that one in mind at first, but seems to be quite heavy (>800mb)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] MyNameIsRage:
It comes with gapps pre loaded. So that's why it is heavy
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] Ynegi4u:
You can try LOS extended by alexy.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] S.N.A.P:
thank you ^^ but I prefer some customization and small features
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] S.N.A.P:
I know

but still quite heavy

about 500-550mb for the ROM and 250-300mb for the Gapps @@

I only use pico gapps so that's a lot of unused stuffs
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] kannanamdu:
Try havoc os, it has p style animation, status, volume key style, custom animation, font change , better sot.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] S.N.A.P:
thank you ^^

will have a look at it tomorrow
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] MyNameIsRage:
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