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[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Didn't test the lastest alpha release.

I'd say there are nothing big to adjust, and a software il always moving.

The only surprising thing (for a new user), for me, is the time taken, when launching FairEmail, to get it updated and ready.

I explain :

- i use it on 2 phones + on my webmail,

- it is always running on one of the 2 phones (+ webmail), say the "professional" number, and from time to time on the other, to test your releases, and to access my mails when i have my "personal" number,

- this phone needs several minutes to get FairEmail completely in sync and depending on the case, if i try to launch it i get no response until FairEmail is ready, or a temporary irrelevant display if the unified inbow is shown (the last mails are not shown, and old ones still appear unread while they were read since the previous launch).

Not sure of being perfectly clear.

Maybe i have many mails to sync between two uses on that phone... and don't know if and how to manage this (pop up saying "first sync could take several minutes" ?).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I like to know more about "i get no response until FairEmail is ready": do you mean the app is not responding or that you need to wait until the messages are downloaded?
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
I use Smart Launcher 5. When i click on the icon, i get a little pop-up with "FairEmail" and nothing else. I have to click on "back" to launch another app.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure what you mean. Maybe a screenshot can help.
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Explaining another way, while FairEmail is in this preliminary sync (for a few minutes), it runs as a background task but i can't have it at the forefront. It "appears" as non responding.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am still not sure what you mean. Synchronizing happens in the background at low priority, so the user interface (list of messages, etc) should be visible and responsive (you should be able to open messages). Isn't this the case for you?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Would this be a good text?

"Downloading messages can take some time, depending on the number of messages, the speed of your internet connection and your email provider"
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Yes. Maybe add "for the initial launch" after "messages" ?

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During a bunch af minutes, not always (generally : not). Unless i keep it on forefront.

(i'm used to, so it's not a problem for me)
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Done.

I think you're ready to go, apart from one thing that we maybe discused before. When you create a new account or identity and want to fill in the domain name and the host name, a space is automatically added after the dot. So, if you want to type domain.com it becomes domain. com, and smtp.domain.com becomes smtp. domain. com. If you can fix that, I think 1.0 is born.
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Are those buttons a bigger than before?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, they aren't.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The buttons occupy the same space as they did in the message action bar, but there is a little less padding, so they are a little larger, but the difference is minimal.
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
OK, thanks.

I thought they looked a touch larger.

I presume "padding" means the white (in this case) border around the visible icon?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, padding is white space, which is generally touch sensitive (so, you don't need to tap on the icon exactly).
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
OK, thanks.

So they could be made to seem smaller while still being just as easy to use. That might look better, although it's obviously very subjective...

Thanks again for the great work.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I agree it looks better if the icons are a bit smaller (more padding), so:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/4941c0c3df7bc2b6963f0ae9df5d9d7741e8bf9f
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Cool!
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Have been happy with FairEmail since I first downloaded it as an early release some months ago! Marcel you rock!
[Android Apps and Games] Hiroo Onoda:
Removal of the message action bar does improve the reading experience for me. As I also don't use the conversation action bar at all, finding it redundant in my use cases, there's even less distraction on the screen now.

I'm also happy with the latest changes bringing back the trash icon, since that is something I use very often.
[Android Apps and Games] mcglick:
Someone mind posting a screenshot of the new message screen layout?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
I'm happy again! Seriously, I love the new layout, definitely an improvement over the old action bar. Keep it up!
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Thank you - think it's looking pretty solid at this point.
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
That looks pretty good indeed!

I'd be even more happy if the "Move" button would be back again [emoji6] But that's very personal since I never use the "Archive" function but move emails to separate folders ...

Thanks a lot for your neverending efforts to make this the best mail app by far! [emoji1374]
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
I also like the latest update. Maybe the buttons are a bit too big (they look bigger than the one in the address section).

The three dots menu should maybe be on the right side?
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] You are taking care of button size reduction

I also feel 3 dots should be on the right side as is common

Also the delete option can be deleted from 3 dots menu since you have a delete icon already

3 dots menu - since there are so many options does it make sense to have double pane menu (thinking of small screens)? This will also give you more screen space for small screens in case you need to delete some icons
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
All buttons/actions are ordered on frequency of use (my estimation) and the most used are the closed to your hand (assuming most people are right-handed).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Double pane menus are not supported by Android. Instead menus are scrollable.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
But you don't see that the menus can be scrolled - so I had suggested earlier - if possible - to show a small arrow at the top or bottom to indicate further menu items.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Besides that this takes even more room, Android menus are not really customizable.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1002

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version will be available as test version in the Play store too [MENTION=10036357]gc01[/MENTION]

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] HerrT:
Is "left handed" a typo or do you really think so?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is a typo and has been corrected.
[Android Apps and Games] scanno:
Don't know if this has been asked before, but received mail notifications do not seem to reach my android Wear device. I have to Pro version.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Mi 9T Pro met Tapatalk
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please see this FAQ for a possible solution:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq126
[Android Apps and Games] scanno:
Thx will have a look at that.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Mi 9T Pro met Tapatalk
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Didn't find icon for this action per change log

"Added action icon to move spam to inbox"
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is an inbox icon which will be shown where otherwise the flag icon (report as spam) is.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
You may also only see this icon if you are in the Spam folder and open a message classified as spam.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In fact it will be shown for messages in the spam folder only.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1003

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

There is a new display settings at the bottom to colorize the Android navigation bar. I like to know if this works properly for everybody.

This is a release candidate for the next Play store release.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
For me (Android 9) the colorized Android navigation bar works good.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Sorry for this but it looks like I need help again

Can't see display settings at bottom (edit even after enabling in display settings)

Edit 2-maybe because I am using Gravitybox, I can't see
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Settings -> Display, scroll down to the end.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks. As edited, I did that but still don't see, possibly because I use Gravitybox
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Gravitybox ...
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
I don't seem to have that nav bar.

Maybe my phone's too old, or my Android settings are the cause...
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
Maybe this has already been debated, but I have some comments on the blue bar that is at the top in the conversation view:

- could the two settings (sorting and duplicate) be included in the three dot menu (as they are in the unified inbox view), as probably not used very often?

- when scrolling down, could this bar be hidden to have more space (as the adress bar in firefox for example)

- could the search function be available within a conversation?
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Nice idea adding info on moved functions (reply to all, etc.) on first message opening.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The sort and filter action icons will be shown if there is room in the top action bar, which is more convenient than having to open the three-dots menu.

I will try if scrolling up the top action bar is a good idea.

Searching is a folder action and not a conversation action.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is indeed not available on all Android versions.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1004

Changelog/dowload:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version was released to fix connectivity issues caused by a change in version 1.1002

You are strongly advised to update.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] niix:
Hi again [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

I would like to suggest an idea.

What about having two channels for updates: 1, let's say, beta or dayly, and another a bit more stable, maybe weekly + critical.

In the settings there could be the possibility to opt in to one or both channels. I would opt in for the weekly one ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Who's gonna tell what is beta and stable?

Some beta versions are stabler than stable versions, which is why designating versions beta or stable was abandoned a while ago.

In fact, there is a known, serious bug in the current Play store version that is fixed in the versions of today.
[Android Apps and Games] niix:
It would be you deciding. I would not say beta or stable, just daily and weekly.

Together with the weekly I would put critical, like the last one of today.

So if it's just improvements and minor staff, I'd publish them in the daily.

Alternatively, I would just let the user decide if he wants to be notified anytime or weekly or monthly. Critical fixes that interfere with security or functionslity, I would notify anyway.

In my case, I don't update everytime, also because I'm on data and not WiFi.

Of course this is just my opinion, you're free to handle it as you like ? I'm very happy with this app
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I write all changes down in the changelog, so you can decide for yourself if an update should be installed as well.

Anyway, the last version of today is worthwhile to install.
[Android Apps and Games] JJ111:
I like this idea! When reading an E-Mail I don't need this bar. I don't even know what the sorting should do, since I only open one E-Mail at a time and also I don't know about the duplicate - what does it do? Also I only used the top 3 dots once to set compact view and the size and now I don't need it anymore again.

So I would be happy to rather have more space for the E-Mail / that the top action bar disappears when scrolling down :)

---edit---

The only thing I use from the top bar is the back button, but I can also use the back button in the android navigation bar, so no problem.

Btw: thanks for the option to color it, I like it ?
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
Thank you for the latest setting (since 1.1001).

However, I have a problem with the colorized Android Nav bar: it is only colorized when in the settings, not when I'm in email list views or when I'm in an email.

PS: I'm on Android 8.0.0
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
I'm having an issue with the floating 'Reply' button not being visible sometimes (latest version). Can't figure out why; happens in both individual messages and certain conversations, but only in some of them. Anything I can do to help debug?

Edit: also happens on older versions installed from fdroid (1.971). Hadn't noticed because there was a reply button in the message bar too.
[Android Apps and Games] nintendo1889:
Is there a way you can use gmails priority inbox, which is a shown as a label in imap folders.

Even the latest Gmail app doesn't properly have a working priority inbox, because when you archive an email, it's still sitting there in the priority inbox. It seems like it's stuck between trying to reclassify an important email as not important And archiving it, so it takes neither action
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will fix this in the next release.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The reply button will be shown only when there is exactly one message expanded.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Can you please try this and let me know if it works for the priority "folder" ?

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq100
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1005

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
Another feedback I have is about the settings menu. While the settings themselves and their default values are ok and should fit most people need, the menu looks complicated... Even if a person does not need to do any modification, it gives the feeling that the app is complicated, even if it is not.

I would suggest to group settings in categories. For example the display settings should be better categorized with a clear title for each group of settings. One app with many settings and quite well organized I like is Lawnchair.

Also the horizontal main menu seems not common, in my opinion the feeling will be better if it is similar to what people are used to (e.g. Android settings).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks for the suggestion, but can you also suggest categories? You'll see it will be hard to categorize the settings.

Note that I deliberately don't look at other apps.

There is a good reason for the tab pages, which weren't there before: people complaining about "where are the settings?" and "there are no settings". The tap pages make clear that there is more than only the main setup.
[Android Apps and Games] aalto73:
Users look at other apps... because they have other apps on their phone, and they compare (and rate) based on what they are used to.

That's a start:

General display settings:

-use two column in landscape mode

-show on start screen

-use card

-colorize the android navigation bar

Conversation/folder:

-group by date

-conversation threading

-highlight unread messages

Message

-use high contrast for message text

-show text colors

-show small and large texts

-collapse quoted text

-automatically show jnline images

Identicons/contact settings

- ...
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
I tend to agree with [MENTION=10193669]aalto73[/MENTION]. The User experience would be greatly improved with a vertical setup of settings, as it would be more intuitve for most people. I didn't know about Lawnchair but just checked, and I agree the way settings are organized is excellent (quite similar to my rom setting actually) and the UI is beautiful (this is admitedly subjective).

As for categories, you already have them: each of your horizontal tab can all become a category, and clicking on it would open the category settings.

Note: I don't know how improving user experience is a priority for you. I'm happy with the app as it is because I know how to use it for my needs, and the management of emails is working perfectly and better than any other email client that I have tried. But if you care about ratings and gaining more downloads, you may consider these suggestions.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] just a little feedback. First, I LOVE how the display option is now separated in subjects. It's really nice and you should do the same with every tab. If you don't have enough options to create multiple categories, only use the General one. It would make it more coherent and uniform.

As for the Action bar hiding, it should show back as soon as you scroll up, not all the way up to the top. Most if not all other apps have this behavior.

Other than that, great job as always. You are really taking this app to another level.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
I have to say that I to have this problem. I don't use conversations so I always have only one message expanded at a time. Sometimes the reply fab doesn't show up, mostly when I see the Downloading pop up before the content loads.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This should have been fixed in the meantime.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1006

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

If there are suggestions to further improve the structure of the settings, please let me know.

[MENTION=5445418]Dark_Eyes_[/MENTION] I don't think it is a good idea to add a useless "General" title everywhere.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=5445418]Dark_Eyes_[/MENTION]

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/bb9e056910a025c50042fe04da61f2ad79926f49
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
For Receive tab some suggestions and if this finds a positive response, other tabs can be modified

General (bold) has (bold means group heading - I am typing on mobile so can't format)

Receive messages

All unread messages

All starred messages

Delete old unread messages

When replaced by Synchronize (bold)

Schedule

Check if old messages were removed from server

Verify (bold) - this tab can be used in "Send" tab also for uniformity

Check sender email addresses on synchronization

Check reply email addresses on synchronization

Folder (bold) - grouped and towards the end since this is not frequently used ( I assume) by most

Synchronize folder list

Manage folder subscription

Synchronize subscribed folder only

IMO, this arrangement a) brings some logical grouping b) allows one to focus /skip some things like I am not using folders at all, so won't even bother looking at it. Conversely, security minded folks would like to see Verify settings in send /receive tabs

My 2c [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

Edit : Grouping would help you in "search" tool for settings, which is on your to-do list

Edit 2: Does hyperlink FAQ for relevant sections sound like a good idea? To me, it does - a) or explains the settings in case of doubt and b) may reduce questions
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
The display setting is indeed better. It's good to have clearly separated sections when there are so many settings on one single page.

However, the changes suggested by [MENTION=10193669]aalto73[/MENTION] for your settings section were even more radical. I believe he meant that clicking on Settings in the main menu would lead to a single vertically scrolling window (vertical scrolling is easier, more intuitive with a phone) with:

PRINCIPAL >

RECEIVE >

SEND >

CONNECTION >

DISPLAY >

BEHAVIOR >

PRIVACY >

ENCRYPTION >

NOTIFICATIONS >

MISCALLENOUS >

With each of these sections opening to the corresponding setting screen when clicking on the section name (or arrow).

I would also suggest a Search on top of the list to search through Settings if feasible.

Lastly, even you you don't radically change your settings, I would suggest you do something about the 3-line menu on the top-left angle of Settings:

- The 4 bottom commands are a repeat from the main menu

- Export/Import/Order accounts & folders are important commands not often used, but I don't see the logic as to why they are sitting here and not in one of the Settings sections ( It took me a lot of time figuring out were to find the export and import commands. )? Maybe Export/Import could go in Miscellanous. Order accounts & folders in Display or Behavior?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The settings have been restructured several times for this or for that reason. Therefore the settings won't be restructured anymore without a very good reason and personal preferences is not one of them.

I am happy to work on the existing layout though, for example by moving settings, adding sections, splitting tab pages.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1007

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version was released to fix showing the reply button in some situations.

Hiding the action bar on scrolling has been removed because there were too many side effects.

I will look into this later again.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
My main mail account keeps getting disconnected (since a few versions?) using 1.1007 and I can't understand why. I lowered the connection hold time from 26 (or 24?) to 15 minutes because I thought this could have to do something with it, but no luck.

Because I can't copy more than one line in the protocol, now as an attached screenshot.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please send me the debug info by long pressing 'Support' in the navigation menu for a check.

Just a guess, since sync=false/false, is receiving enabled in the receive settings?
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Just sent it. Yes, sync is set in the inbox settings and I only unchecked and checked it again today when it didn't work.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
The one suggestion I've had for a long time is a search field for those looking for a specific setting. It is not a 'necessity' and totally up to you to implement this but it would be a helpful feature even for experienced users. It might even help reduce bad reviews from users overwhemed and confused by the many options FairEmail offers.

Just a suggestion.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is still on my to do list, but low priority.
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
IMO there should be a way to reply to a single message in a conversation when multiple are expanded. The current behavior is counter intuitive with the floating icon disappearing and reappearing. For me there is space next to the flag, archive, trash buttons but I'm not sure if that'll work for everyone.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am sorry, I can't make everybody happy at the same time :(
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will see if I can add options to select the message icon/actions with a maximum of three out of this list:

- spam (always shown)

- trash

- archive

- move

- mark read/unread

- reply/forward

I have spent quite some time to make it possible to hide the top action bar on scrolling, but this appears to be not possible without stuttering. Redrawing the message list because the height of the view changed is just too much.

The receive options will have the sections "when" and "advanced" in the next release.