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[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
I read a few times about articles stating that dark grey themes are better readable than black themes in dark surroundings.

But I can understand the "I need everything black because of my OLED display and the battery!!11" people (a bit) too, even if I don't use the black themes.

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Honestly I never understood the question with the 'yes', 'no' and 'browser' option :laugh:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
OK = use browser tab

Browse = let Android decide

Maybe 'browse' should be renamed in 'open' or 'share'. Suggestions are welcome as always.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
In German it says 'Browser' as noun, not 'browse' as verb. Because after klick there will only apps offered installed as browsers. Maybe a better name would be 'App-Selection'?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It depends on the link type which apps are offered to open the link. This will mostly be the browser, but not always. For example the Facebook app will offer to open Facebook links.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
So app selection's pretty good, huh?
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Ah, okay. In the German translation it's called "Browser", but maybe should be "Auswahl" (choice/selection) instead.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
As I said ... ;)
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I prefer the dark theme over the black one, but it is probably because I'm used to it and because it resembles the xda color scheme.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The dark theme will stay, but the primary blue color will be a little darker in the next release.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Perfectemundo.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
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[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
The Dark theme is the only one I like, at all. Black with white is so harsh. I don't expect an option for this in FE, but I've attached a portion of a screenshot from my Reddit theme as an example of what, at least some of us, consider pleasant colors.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.698

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This is mainly a bug fix release. The dark theme action bar color has been corrected.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have changed 'Browse' into 'Use app' in the open link dialog because IMHO this describes best what will happen. Mostly the app will be the browser, but as explained before it can be any app able to handle the link.
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
"Open in browser" seems the most straightforward.

Edit: "Open in browser" for the one definitely opening in the browser. "Open" or "Open in app" for letting Android choose the app.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A link could be opened by the browser and also by one or more other apps, which is why I don't want to make the browser a special app.

'Use app' is a bit shorter than 'Open in app', which is IMHO better for a button text.
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
Thank you for fixing the themes so quickly [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]!
[Android Apps and Games] zrx8:
1.693 bugs (?)

Hi,

- If a transient error happens during sync, the red message (eg. "* BYE JavaMail Exception: java.io.IOException: Connection dropped by server?") won't disappear from the folder box, until at least one new message arrives to that address, even when synchronisaton would already be possible.

- mass deletion of emails ( == moving to trash I guess) is slooooow.. I mean 3-4 secs/email. Is that normal? Or perhaps is it a server problem ?

- right now one of my accounts shows an empty Inbox (no error status), but there are 2 emails in the Inbox when I check it on the web interface of my provider. It won't change even after manual update.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Folder errors are reset automatically after a successful sync. So, try to manually sync the folder.

The speed of moving messages mostly depends on the speed of the server. FairEmail moves individual messages to prevent failing to move a batch of messages.

Are the message not shown older than the number is days to synchronize messages for? Related FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq39
[Android Apps and Games] zrx8:
If a folder is in error status (red message on folder), manual sync only pops up the same error in a message box as long as a new email isn't received.

Number of days to synchronize is 7 (can this be modified ?), both emails are 1 day old (EDIT: I sent a new message to this acct. and suddenly all the three msgs appeared in FE.)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If the same error occurs, the error is likely more permanent, explaining why it isn't going away.

Please do a manual refresh and send me after the error has appeared again the debug info by long pressing 'Support' in the main navigation menu. Log files often do not contain more than 1 minute of logging, so timing is important.

You can long press a folder in the folder list to change the folder settings.
[Android Apps and Games] Hiroo Onoda:
I like that. Found 'Browse' to be confusing, too.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
This is looking pretty great to me ... unless others spot anything, this would make a good non-beta release.

Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] Kalicouk:
Unusual swipe behaviour

Please forgive me if I'm posing this in the wrong place. I'm not a techie, just want to use open software. Tous ordinary folks forums seem very daunting.

I am in my first week trying your progam. It seems good so far.

On some accounts, I can swipe to delete a message. On other accounts, the swipe action has no effect.

Any idea of why that might be and what I can check ?

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] BackToAndroid:
I installed this app Play store, now I've configured all my accounts and went through all the complex settings to match my requirement.

But now I want to switch to latest app and receive regular updates to want to use fdroid or github version.

Which method would you recommend and how will I receive updates automatically?

Importantly, now how did I not lose my settings and configurations? How do I proceed?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can configure the swipe right and left action in the account settings:

Setup > Step 1 > Manage > Tap account > At the bottom
[Android Apps and Games] BackToAndroid:
How do I change/update primary account? It but default took my first signed up about as primary
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can export your settings in the navigation menu of the setup to be sure and you should be able to just install the GitHub version over the Play store version. Note that you cannot use the pro features of the Play store in the GitHub version (or the other way around). This is to comply with the Play store rules.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In the advanced account setting there is a check box to make an account the primary account.
[Android Apps and Games] BackToAndroid:
Export settings require Pro feature!! My main reason to go for github version is updates and to buy Pro.

Any other workaround?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Installing the GitHub version over the Play store version is like an update, so the risks are minimal.
[Android Apps and Games] BackToAndroid:
Ok will try directly installing github version.

Also, where exactly is advanced account settings?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Setup > Step 1 > Manage > Tap account > Button advanced
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
I always update via the GitHub version above of the bought play store version (one year ago or something like that) and I still have the pro functions activated :eek: :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This should not be possible and I will check how this is possible.
[Android Apps and Games] BackToAndroid:
Thank you! I didn't even know these settings existed, really wish dev makes things straight forward to this amazing app.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Don't fix this bug, I'm update-addicted :laugh:
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Ditto
[Android Apps and Games] tbv2005:
Dito 2.... always working for me like that... Hope that's not gonna be changed (also I understand you want to comply with playstore rules)
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Bug Report: Orange Floating Reply Button (OFRB)

My user says that when viewing a conversation, whichever message is expanded first gets the OFRB - if you now expand any other message in that conversation there is no OFRB - it sticks with whichever message was expanded first. She says can you please either make the OFRB move to whichever message is tapped to expand or perhaps auto collapse the other messages in same conversation so the OFRB is available in the expanded message.

She understands that if she first collapses previous viewed message and then expands the next one - then the OFRB shows up. She thinks that tapping a message to expand it should always get the OFRB.

She is on play store non-beta, but I see the same with 1.698

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] cvzalez:
Post to delete

Post to delete
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The problem with this is that it would be unclear to which message the floating action button would apply.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Seems quite a bit off topic (Wrong app) - Nothing to do with FairEmail.

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Well its very counter intuitive as it is now. The button actually disappears after expanding a different message - so having the invisible button attached to the first expanded message isn't useful either - since it's invisible.

Better make it visible and apply to the last tapped/expanded message

If there was an option to keep only 1 message expanded at a time that would also work.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Just for information: By the way, now I know why the phone sometimes displayed new mails in the FE widget, while there was nothing to be seen in the notification bar and also in the opened notifications. This discrepancy only occurs when the phone is in 'Do Not Disturb' mode. As soon as this mode is disabled, the mails are also displayed in the notifications again - analogous to the widget - which is clear and logical.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The last expanded message might be scrolled out of view and another expanded message might be currently showing. So, IMO replying to the last expanded message is not a good idea.

(Optionally) allowing just one expanded message would limit the function of the conversation view, so IMO this is not a good idea either.

Replying to the most visible message would be confusing too because the top message might miss just a pixel and the message below it could be showing completely.

On the other hand it should be clear why the reply button disappears and how it can be shown again. Also, you can reply from the grey message action bar too.

Any other ideas?
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Well i hear what you're saying but she found it completely confusing and non-intuitive. I think she has a point.

The only way to get the Float Button back now, is to go back and try find whichever message was opened first - but she didn't want to reply to that one. So she says it is pointless having the button there - and then after having found that one, collapse it - then go back to the one she actually wants to reply to - expand it ... and then reply ... is kinda silly.

I think her suggestion makes the most sense:

Whichever message you tap to expand - should now have a floating reply button - if you tap another message it is now should be the the 'active' one for the button.

This is an improvement over the current behavior whichever limits the button to only whichever message you tapped first - all scrolling concerns apply in current case as well - because the first message tapped can be anywhere in the list.

Current behavior as viewed by user - button is sometimes there and sometimes not - so she says she prefers to avoid it as it is not consistently available to reply - and instead will learn to use the action bar to reply.

The point is the user wants to choose which message to reply to - the current approach makes that not easy to do.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
The possibility to answer from the action bar is better anyway because of the more numerous offers. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Sure - you're arguing about a consistent user interface. I agree, it should be consistent or it becomes a bit baffling.

Then just remove the Floating Reply button in conversation mode.

But then for consistency, it should probably be removed everywhere.

Perhaps that's the answer - get rid of it?

I believe it only serves as a fast reply then and only when and if you avoid reply-all - otherwise long-press and action bar take same amount of time.

Google, for comparison, has 3 separate buttons - reply, reply-all and forward. They are not floating - so really more like the action bar except they're at the bottom of any viewed message - at least that's what I see.

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I actually like the google way - always have the option (at the bottom) with 3 lovely big buttons. Tap the one you want and you're done ...
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Aquamail does the same, but you can only open and view ONE mail at a time, so it's probably easier. (However, I would never get the idea to open more than one mail at a time. ;) )
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Also, is there really value in having scrollable expanded messages?

So eliminating that would any message being viewed was always the only message being viewed - in which case there is no longer any ambiguity which message is being replied to.

I think i'd still prefer 3 buttons for replying and no floating button.

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Right - I too have no interest in multiple expanded messages - I think it looks quite messy and also has these reply problems.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I think you are making this too difficult: when you expand only one message, which I expect you will most of the time, there is no problem at all.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Maybe - but what about just removing the scrollable expanded list completely and all problems and consistency of interface go away.

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If the scrollable expanded list stays then I think you have to remove the floating button to keep the UI consistent.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Removing the expanding would mean an extra tap to open a message in a new view, which is not a good idea to say the least.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
my sole non-tech user definitely feels the UI is not right in this case.

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I see that to open a message you need to tap it - that is normal expected behavior no?

Whether it collapses on close of conversation is perhaps a discussion.

I understand there are occasions when someone may want to see all messages expanded, but I truly suspect that is pretty rare - many if not most I would expect typically read and reply to a single message.

Maybe you can have a toggle to turn off scrollable expanded - then at least in that mode the UI is consistent.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I can't understand her problem. It is only logical that the quick reply button disappears when more than one message is expanded. And I love the possibility to scroll through a list of related message texts. I use it all the time.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Single messages are expanded automatically for your convenience.

Related FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq70
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Hah - different people like different things.

Its not a "problem" per se, it's a question of consistent UI - and in this mode the way to reply to a message is not the same as with one message in a conversation.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I understand that different people might have different expectations, but IMHO the UI is consistent:

one expanded message = reply button

She will get used to it, like she got used to you ;)
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Right - and in single message mode everything is fine.

Its when there are multiple messages in a conversation - that's where things become a little off kilter.

My best suggestion at this time, given the competing needs/desires - would be to add an option to allow single message view at a time only in conversation mode.

By making it an option, those who want the srollable expanded can have it, and those that want a more consistent UI for responding can have that.

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She has said the button behaves strangely and she will stick to action bar.

(This is her way of saying UI is not consistent ... even if others find it so ... :)

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Not clear she has quite got used to me either lol

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UI consistency (testing) should derive from what normal users feel - not the techie's on this forum ... imho.

That's why I have one such user - that's only 1 - not sure where to find more.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

ALPHA

version 1.699

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version significantly changes the way how you send messages. I have tested everything I could think of and everything seems to work fine, so I don't expect huge problems. Nevertheless, I don't want you to be unpleasantly surprised by not being able to send a message, which is why this version is an ALPHA version.

Please let me know what you think about the new way of sending messages and please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
In the V 1.699, sending later only works with the two buttons. If you choose a certain time, the mail will always be sent immediately.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure which "two buttons" you mean, but you should select the time with the time lapse button after the send at time.

For me the message is sent at the shown time and not immediately.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
The two Buttons are '1 hour' and '1 Day'. Other times don't work here.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Are you sure you are selecting a time in the future?

For me the message is being sent at the shown time.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Yes, today, some minutes later.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Android alarms are imprecise to save on battery usage (to reduce the number of device wake ups), so try 5 minutes or so.

The message should be visible in the outbox while not having been sent.

You can tap on the little time lapse icon to show the scheduled time.

I have just tested this again and it works for me as expected.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I had already tried for 30 minutes; after clicking on O.k. the dialog was 'now' again and the mail was sent immediately.

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O.k., now it (send later) works as expected.

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If I enlarge a mail text (this was perhaps already the case in earlier versions, but I only notice it now), it is possible that parts of the mail are cut off at the bottom and can therefore no longer be read completely in the enlarged scale, right?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That should not happen and I cannot reproduce it either.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Okay, seems also to have been a temporary problem. It is o.k. now.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

ALPHA

version 1.700

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Besides a few small improvements and some minor fixes this version will check for empty subjects.

The attachment reminder is based on keywords in the language(s) of the device. Android 7 Nougat and later allow you to configure multiple languages in the Android settings and FairEmail will use all configured languages for the attachment reminder. You can define the keywords on Crowdin.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
There is no possibility (except the Back-Button) in the current mail to react to the attachment question.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Back brings you back to the message editor and OK will send the message, so you can decide to add an attachment or just send the message. The only thing I can do is add a cancel button.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
One change I noticed is that when I clicked onsend to send myself a test message I got the attached popup. Not sure I like that and I can't find where to turn it off.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Another long present 'annoyance' is when attaching an image to an email using Files.

The default sort i set in Files itself is by date, recent on top. But when FairEmail uses Files to attach an image it opens the folder sorted by name instead. This means 2 additional clicks, one to change sort to date and another for most recent.

Is there a way to set FairEmail to open Files in sort by date/most recent first - which is the default when Files is opened on its own?
[Android Apps and Games] BackToAndroid:
On https://email.faircode.eu/donate/ page it says,

What does this mean by without Google services? How is this Pro feature going to be different from buying from play store?
[Android Apps and Games] Licaon_Kter:
How to buy from Play store when you don't use such a Play store? This.Is.XDA
[Android Apps and Games] BackToAndroid:
This app is available on play store as well.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Unfortunately, FairEmail has no control over this :(
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.701

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Besides a series of small improvements and minor bug fixes the main change is that less white space will be shown after formatting messages.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
What is with an option for enable /disable the new send Dialog?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I had to look into too many other things today, so I will look into making the send dialog optional later.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.702

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The send dialog has been made optionally [MENTION=2267092]ths180[/MENTION].

Note that the send dialog is always available from the three dots overflow menu.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] sethnet:
I may not have seen it, but would there be a way to make the action bar icons more visible in the unified inbox?

And on the other hand, could you include an option to configure to which other mail (newer or older) we move by sliding left or right?

Thanks for a great job!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What is shown in the screenshot is not an action bar, but an experimental way of quickly filtering messages. I am pretty sure that others would hate it if this would become a space consuming, colored action bar. You can turn it on or off in the miscellaneous settings.

You read from left to right (or from right to left). Swiping to the next or previous conversation follows this read direction, which seems quite natural to me.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Just saw the unsubscribe button today the first time, asked myself what action it is and got reminded again, that there are no long press tooltips for these buttons, unlike every (?) other menu button. Then I thought a few seconds about if it's riskless to press it or if something unexpected is about to happen with the mail :laugh: