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[Android Apps and Games] tussle-russle:
I marked the message read. Exactly i just marked one, and it moved both. In the destination folder, it appears only once again.

Ok, i don't know if posteo do so, due I didn't have such a behavior before.

Again some words to the 2. issue: "Search emails on server" was already enabled. Then i tried long press on the folder and went for "sync all messages". Now the missing two messages are shown up. Is there a reason for this behavior? Because pull down in the folder itself to refresh didn't bring the messages to daylight.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Since you confirmed the duplicate messages had different message IDs, the provider is doing something strange.

If the messages appear when browsing and not when syncing, the messages were older than the number of days to sync for.
[Android Apps and Games] tussle-russle:
Ok, thanks for assistance. Everything is fine now :good:
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
Got a anr popup while using signal SMS app. Logs sent. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
Thanks so much!
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Not important but bringing it to your attention Marcel.

When I go into one of the trash folders, select all from the hamburger menu and then delete all, FairEmail deletes them but always leaves one message not deleted. Did it consistently on several accounts. The remaining message can then be deleted.

Not a problem but weird behavior.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I checked the source code and I see nothing that could be wrong. I also can't reproduce this.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Does not happen unless there are a lot of messages in the trash folder. Tried it with only 6 messages and they all deleted.

Previous reported behavior was in trash folders containing 150+ messages.

Maybe a cache memory problem ?

Not a problem. Just reported because it happened in 4 different mailboxes and I thought it was strange.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
Quote originally posted by gc01:

Ah - somehow I must have forgotten that lol.

The latest version is settling nicely and FE is pretty awesome - does anyone have any suggestions how to get additional exposure for FE - are there (good) review sites for example that might help? zdnet or techadvisor.co.uk or digitaltrends or pcmag.com perhaps ?

Link to Slant's Android email app comparison

https://www.slant.co/topics/13679/~android-email-apps

as of a few minutes ago only FE and Gmail are listed.

Link provided for those who want to go there, use/create your account (FB, Google, and email options), and do some voting/adding 'pros', etc.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Voted and added more Pros ...

---------- Post added at 12:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:45 PM ----------

More Reply vs Reply-All.

With the action bar a popup allows user to choose. If you choose reply all you can always remove and "step it down" to reply.

With the floating button, there is no menu and once you're there - there is no ability to change your choice to "reply-all".

I think it would be better if the floating button had a popup menu choice - and if not possible I would suggest reverting back to reply-all as the default.

Alternatively - once user is in reply compose window - a choice to change to reply, reply-all or forward would also work.

As it stands now, its too easy to hit reply and the path to recover back to reply all is quite tedious. (So says my non-tech users ... :) )

After explaining long press for reply-all vs press for reply ... User says l : "Gee that's really confusing ... why doesn't it reply to everyone"
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will change "Until the end of the time condition" into "From the end of the time condition" without disabling the hour selector. So, the logic will be changed into snooze for xxx hours relative to either the message received time or relative to the end time of the condition. This will allow for making a rule for Saturday and snoozing 24+9=33 hours after the end of the time condition, which is 9 o'clock on Monday.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Sorry, this sounds complicated.

Please explain the new mechanics on this example for snoozing:

* friday 18:00 - 00:00

* saturday the whole day

* sunday the whole day.
[Android Apps and Games] MaxRabbit:
I am experiencing some unexpected behavior after re-enabling "Confirm moving messages" under "Behavior" in Settings. Now, it prompts me "Move 1 message to Trash?" or "Move 1 message to Archives?" with those two buttons, but there is no prompt "Move 1 message to <Folder>?" if I use the "Move" button and select a folder to move the email to.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is not as difficult as it might seem.

Snooze hours after the end of the time condition:

* friday 18:00 - 00:00: 24+24+9=57

* saturday the whole day: 24+9=33

* sunday the whole day: 9
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That's correct because selecting a folder is considered to be confirming.

The next release will log where the messages were moved to.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will have an option (default disabled) to permanently delete drafts instead of trashing drafts on discarding drafts.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Mmhh, may be I'm too slow to understand but how comes the 9 hours in play? 24-18=6.

And you think this mechanism is intuitive to understand ?

I'm doubting that.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
On Crowdin I asked in a comment at the playstore.txt what are meant axactly with keyword management. Could you please clarify this.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The example was the same as previously: snoozing end at 9 o'clock Monday.

If you have a better suggestions about how to solve this, taking into account that rules need to be independent of each other, please let me know.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Keywords are a kind of labels, see here for some more information: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5788
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Thanks, but how are they used in FE?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In the message 'more' three dots menu you can manage keywords. They will be shown in the addresses section.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Ah, o.k., thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
I guess the chain of rules where taken into account on every new arriving mail. Why should should the user do such calculations? This can be done by FE.

My suggestion:

If there are a couple of snooze rules it's easy to see by FE if there is a contiguous time range (End and start time is 0:00 at successive days (that have to be sorted before searching for time ranges) ).

If so, FE will snooze the incomming email until the end of this whole time range.

May be it's necessary to have on option to disable such a concatenation of time ranges but I don't think so.

What do you think about this?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Making rules dependent on each other is the way to go to make the code less maintainable, hence:

"... taking into account that rules need to be independent of each other ..."
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
My suggestion depends on your restriction that only one day is selectable is a rule and not a day range like a time range. Is there a reason for this?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Just keeping things simple, but maybe this needs to change.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.662

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any problem you discover.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Now it would only be desirable if - if feasible - the complete signature (!) were included in a mail draft, i.e. WITH a complete signature separator ("-- ") which is defined here in the signatur. Unfortunately, the last blank of the three characters is always cut off, even if you use " " instead.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Since you can change the identities while composing a draft this is not possible.

FairEmail includes signatures "as-is" and doesn't cut off anything.

If you think FairEmail does, please provide a complete example.
[Android Apps and Games] GozerOfSomeGozerian:
About these 30 days and the FAQ...

Hello.

I saw in the program a 30 day delete section.

Now I've got 9000 IMAP emails.

I am scared.

Are all these emails going to be deleted on the server after 30 days? (IMAP and all that)

I expected this vital info to be in the FAQ's, but I could not find it.

I downloaded it from F-Droid. The other program there Librem also got the 30 day delete option, so with over 6 years of IMAP mails we had to kill that program ASAP. Deleting years of emails is NOT what we enlisted for ;) . And now I read FairEmail has it as a function too. So how do we kill deleting everything on the provider server after 30 days? Only 3 weeks left to total annihilation, so I must know if we need to uninstall it. And if uninstalling the program will not prevent the destruction if thousands of emails anyway. (will the program do this even after being uninstalled?)

The second issue is the double creation of the same account.

When creating an account it is really easy to make a double of the same account. We ended up with 2x900 email duplicates with 2x the same account. (where the rest is we do not know, but we got errors about stuff not being able to get executed. HD full?)

Creating more accounts should not be in the same page as creating the first account.

We are in the process of deleting the 2nd double, but first we had to change the password of the double, to make sure any sync does not empty the emailprovider server (who knows what horrible bugs exist). Where on android tablets are the many mails being kept? We could not find them by Total Commander. We wanted to find the 2 huge same folders. Are they rooted? Can the program+email migrate to the SD card? Are the emails themselves being stored, or just an image of them?

I hope I'm not being too questiony, but the thread is really long so I am sure some of my issues are already answered.

:cyclops:
[Android Apps and Games] wirdSchoon:
I would be happy if FairEmail tries to save the images, graphics and symbols displayed in a mail so that this download does not have to take time again at a later date.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail will never automatically trash or delete messages, unless you explicitly enabled this.

You can just delete your duplicate account (open the account settings, in the menu there is a delete option).

Messages are stored in the internal device storage and cannot be stored stored elsewhere, please see this FAQ about why not:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq93

FairEmail deliberately doesn't store the raw messages including all headers to save on storage space.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
In the first screenshot you can see my signature as HTML code (here with - but the behavior is identical for a normal blank). In the second screenshot you can see how the mail arrives. Everything looks normal at first, but if you want to reply and quote the text, you can see that the line with the signature separator already ends after two characters. (third screenshot)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail will store downloaded attachments (including inline images) until the message is deleted.

FairEmail caches downloaded external images for 3 days or until Android claims cache space.

Edit: the next version will keep downloaded external images until either the message is deleted or until Android claims cache space.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Marcel, I may have stumbled on the reason because it just happened again.

Steps.

1. In unified inbox I deleted a message.

2. Went into trash folder of that account.

3. Hamburger, select all. Contained 6-7 messages.

4. Delete all.

5. Everything was deleted except the message I had most recently deleted.

As I've repeatedly written, it's not a problem for me. It's just FYI feedback.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I guess this is just caused by the order of the operations. FairEmail queues all operations for execution on the email server, so you might have batch deleted trashed messages before the message was actually trashed and present in the trash folder.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
That makes sense.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Some more Non-tech user feedback. As I mentioned previously, they get a little confused by the interface.

They think of Reply to Sender, All and Forward as all "belonging together" - I suppose affirmative actions to take on a message.

The action bar has Sender/All together but forward is in hamburger menu.

They like having the actions in the menu but think that the curvy arrow reply would benefit from popup menu offering choice of which also includes forward in menu.

[My view - the downside of this is you always get the popup - may not be terrible]

From my side, to investigate further, I turned off the 'conversation action bar' option in display settings - but nothing I saw was changed with it on or off. Should the option be removed or did I miss something?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The floating reply button is meant as quick reply. More options are available in the message action bar.

The mentioned option does disable the action bar at the bottom (with previous/next message, etc), not of individual messages.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Ah ok thanks for clarifying the 2 different action bars.

So what do you think of adding 'Forward' to the message action bar 'reply' menu?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Forward was not part of the message reply action because some people wanted to directly reply if there were no other options (no templates, etc). Since there is now a floating quick reply button, I think it is a good idea to move 'forward' to the reply menu as well as suggested.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Terrific - thank you! (I'll tell her the change is coming ... :) )
[Android Apps and Games] cobben:
You should be scared, if you haven't thought through what you are doing, as it seems.

1. You have of course backup copies of all your 6 years of emails in several secure places, and have verified that they can be restored?

2. Before letting loose a new email client, you have of course checked through the settings and changed any potentially dangerous ones?

Yes, IMAP is great, it can effectively delete all your emails in the blink of an eye at the push of the right button, or wrong, as the case may be.

I know, I did that once with Bluemail, but I did have backups.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.663

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any problem you discover.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
I must be blind - where do I find the 'number of days to sync' settings - i've searched through account settings and the other settings - I can't find where this is set.

Sorry for silly question -
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Long press a folder in the folder list > Edit properties
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Hah - thank you .... it's awesome it can be set on individual basis.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Hi,

I received today an email from pearl.de. FE displays this email with:

"Message too large or too comples to display"

The only change to view is to display the mail in html. But no images where displayed!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have increased the maximum message size / number of links in beta version 1.664.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Marcel, a suggestion.

We have multiple settings, and though they are well classified, it does take time to search. How about a search bar, that shows up multiple matching results and on tapping one of them takes you directly to that option?

If you are familiar with GravityBox module, such a feature introduced about an year back made the app much smarter and easier to use. Plus, it would be helpful to new users too, aside from old (pun intended!) users (I was searching for floating reply, I am yet to find it and this thought struck me)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
For now I don't think such a search is necessary because all options are properly categorized. Also, I expect the options to be reviewed once on setup only.

Expand one message only and there will be a orange floating reply button at the bottom.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
With FE becoming more complex, I would welcome this. I have on multiple occasions have had difficulty finding a specific setting.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have added this to the planned features.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks for pointing out reply button.

For the rest, I politely but strongly disagree.

I fully agree that they are well categorized but the needs could be dynamic. If I am traveling, I would want to disable all those features that take extra sync time and bandwidth, for example verification of sender and recipient mail IDs. Similarly schedule. Think of "usage profiles".

I haven't the faintest idea how much effort it takes maintenance wise but urge you to consider taking a vote

EDIT ; Missed seeing your comment about planned features [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It needs to be custom made, which will be more than a little work.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks for considering. Since it is on "to do" list, it's fine. Whenever convenient to you
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
It takes a few minutes until you have checked all settings, but in my opinion you should take this time - not only for FE, but also for any other program. On the one hand you might see an option you haven't even thought about yet, and on the other hand you don't know what to look for, how the translator has translated a certain word. For example, in the first version I did not translate 'Feature' at all as an inserted word in german, only in the second version I made 'Funktion' out of it.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Definitely - however some settings can be missed - like 'long press on folder' to set sync details. Now I found it again I'm good - but might be nice to have nudge somehow for those settings which require user to do long press - not sure how best to offer this - perhaps just add a brief help to hamburger menu -

help --> some settings are item specific to an item use long press on the item to change.

I'm sure there are better ways ...
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Fyi

I installed version 1.667 but the about still says it is 1.661.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Hi,

time selection and on rules is now much more simpler. good.

How about an 8th weekday: "any" which match any day for rules that should work everyday like in older versions of FE.

OK, If start day is any the end day not be selectable or displayed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There was a hint about long pressing folders in the folder list after setting up FairEmail.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't see how this can happen.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Any day day is just Monday to Monday.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
How can a user know that?

Adding "any" (alias for monday) may be a way, or an explaining text above the selector
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It seems straightforward to me that Monday to Monday or Saturday to Saturday is all days of the week.

Any day was needed when only a day could be selected, but not anymore when selecting a day range.
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
If Monday to Monday or Saturday to Saturday is all days of the week, how can this happen?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You'll need to set the start and end date / time equal to each other to select any day / any time.

If you want to select a time period on any or some days (for example Monday-Friday 09:00-17:00), you'll need to make a rule for each day. Note that the latest version allow you to copy a rule.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.668

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any problem you discover.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
That's why 'any' day (09:00-17:00) would be a nice addition, and maybe also 'weekdays' and 'weekends'.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have added this to the planned features list.

Note that weekday and weekend is culture dependent.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Thanks.

I think the 'business' definition of weekend to be Saturday and Sunday has been internationally accepted, although of course there are cultural differences.

('Workweek' or 'working week' is probably the right term for Monday — Friday, instead of 'weekday'.)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
About 2 billion Islamic people will not agree with you.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
The 2 million Islamic people in the country where I am now do, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workweek_and_weekend#Around_the_world
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Just installed 1.668.

About still showed 1.661.

Rebooted phone and now about shows 1.668.

Must be my phone.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version, possibly a stable version, will have an option to show the subject above the sender.

For the time being there will be bug fixing only.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Have you found out in the meantime why the last blank of the signature separator is not included in the mail?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I did ask for an example to work with ...
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Sure - and I know I used it at that time - but months later, it's something that is easy to forget, so it might be nice to have the app provide guidance for those of us with imperfect memory :)
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I gave you the example in posting #8023

What else do you want? Do you need more information?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It seems I have missed this comment.

Nevertheless, I don't see anything wrong, can you help me?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
The line with the signature separator - it's the first line of my signatur - is three characters long ("-- "). However, only the first two characters of this line end up in the mail.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The signature is appended "as-is" to the message:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/b...ava/eu/faircode/email/MessageHelper.java#L242

but it seems there was a bug in formatting the classic reply:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/99f747510ac64d4e206ef1541a70180de680386b
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
You know that there are only two characters in this line if you want to reply with other mail-clients?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have no idea why that happens, since FairEmail just copies the signature "as-is" into the email.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.669

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Even with V 1.669, only two characters of the signature separator are displayed (instead of three) when answering. Can I save and check an outgoing mail BEFORE sending it as RAW?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, you can't.

Also, if you want to edit in plain text all html (including html entities; the character after "--") will be removed.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
By who and why?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
By FairEmail because you are editing plain text.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
But the removal of this sign must take place before the first mail, which is actually sent in HTML, is sent - not only when I reply as plain text.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
To be sure I have just tested this and it is not:

<p dir="ltr">-- <br>Signature</p>

So, I see no problems.
[Android Apps and Games] styr:
Thank you for the option to swap sender and subject.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
This signatur-HTML-code is in the outgoing mail?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, actually this was even received.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
O.k. and thank you for your tests. So I will have to investigate further with my other clients why the signature is cited when answering despite correct signature separator.