yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
my key layout:

volume up/down work

power = back

d_pad center = menu

added new apps:

adialcode

amarok remote

ambient

import_vcard.apk

jchat1.1 (doesnt work)

stocker

vOICE android (not sure what it does)

allbinary suite

itunes controller (i think this requires wifi)

multireader

httpdownloader (does this work for anyone?)

andro

startup.txt

loads android when haret his clicked

http://rapidshare.com/files/153459330/android_mods.zip.html
[Touch CDMA Android Development] njakobs:
Thanks playing with it now, let you know how it goes. Cheers
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
Martin,

if that guy got you the G1 Rom I am sure you have seen this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=432661

hopefully this virtual keyboard is an APK we can borrow:

*edit, after further reading, this appears to be a "preview" so I have no idea if the image is real or official. Its a nice pic so i'll leave it up.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ~David:
Doesn't work, I keep getting "Error reading file. Expected 4096 got 0" when I launch haret.

Edit: My bad, it didn't extract properly. Booting now :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
whew good. I tested everything and it was working well for me :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
Hey Magister,

I included your vcard importer in my for mentioned data.img file. It does not seem to work for me on my xv6900. It is behaving as an app that is not compiled for 1.0, as it does not appear in the application menu, however I am positive its in data/apps

I included it in this file so others who are unable to mount their data.img file can try. Any ideas whats going on?

btw, I appreciate that you took the initiative to build something like this.

-unsung
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
I WANT THIS!! lol.

we REALLY need a sip...can ANYONE right one?

i am starting out in c++ as of a few weeks ago...? and know some visual basic and have played with linux for quite a few hours...? idk. i highly doubt i would be anywhere near able to do this.

anybody?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Grondinm:
so i have a question...not really related to android but generally related to running linux on the vogue. I would like to have a full linux distro that boots automaticly...meaning no more winmo.(i think this has been asked and discuss befor) i found a few distros but they all talk about a special bootloader(wich is not surprising) but i'm thinking that flashing one of these on the vogue would brick it. one example would be http://handhelds.org/familiar/ but they seem to be focused on HP products(anychance this would work on the vogue) but i guesse the real question here is. Is theire a full linux distro out theire that will run on vogue(this is when i wish i had stuck with linux in my eraly computer days cause now i just don't know enough about it to try and make one myself from the kernels and binaries i found i will probably at some point try to build one...maybe more once i get a new phone so as not to brick my onle phone) sorry if this as already been talked about just had to ask and i really like linux more tha windows for stability sake...i just wish i knew more about it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pchasco:
I'm not sure why you would want to do this... Other than a longer boot time due to having to start windows first, I see no reason to remove WM from my phone. Android on the Vogue, though making great strides, is in no way ready to replace WM. Even when it's ready, I'm not sure I ever will remove WM. There are too many risks with no gain. Android runs exactly the same having been launched from Haret as it would from Windows. Only from Android you cannot use ActiveSync to flash your radio if necessary.

And I don't think there's any validity to the stability argument. Windows Mobile is solid. I'd like to see some figures that demonstrate any mobile Linux distribution is more reliable than Windows Mobile.

I'll be using Android on my vogue, but I'll be launching it from Haret.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Grondinm:
ok so my stability argument was based on desktop distro's. I'm sure i'm in over my head but i would just like to have linux running on my phone...so i can boot right to it no windows at all....
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pchasco:
My contract will be up and I'll be ready to buy an Android phone before Android is ever stable enough on the Vogue to completely replace windows. I would recommend against replacing WM on your Vogue.

And off-topic: I would like to see figures proving Linux is more stable than Windows XP on even a desktop. I've used both extensively, and have had more application crashes in Linux after a week than in XP in a year. Linux itself may be solid, but many applications distributed with Linux are not.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Grondinm:
well i'm only talking about core functions here....of course the OS experience will only be as stable as the apps developed for it but linux at the core is more stable than windows will ever be...and i on the other hand(altho my experience with linux might be more limited than your i don't know) have had xp and vista crash at least once a week doing different things as for linux it never "crashed"(unless i messed up) in a 6 months spand.

On topic:Thanx for the recomendation that's kinda the way i was leaning was just wondering how possibble it might be.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Magister2k7:
Hm... it is 100% compiled for 1.0, as I downloaded SDK a few days ago. And on emulator it works fine (however, it was installed there automatically by Eclipse plugin for Android, which is bundled with an SDK. Maybe you should try to run your image in emulator and execute:

adb install "Import VCard.apk"

Maybe that works?

//remark: adb is a tool from Android SDK
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Grondinm:
So I finally got to try the new version based on sdk 1.0 and so far so good.(writing this from andriod browser) The only issues so far is that the screen bounces around(up and down) a lot as I type. And the other thing I will ask a question. How long should the media scanner take? I launch it and it says media scanner started scanning \sdcard but I left it for like 5 min then tried music player and it says no sd card. How long should it take consider I have a 8gb card about half full? Apart from that great work dzo it boors faster than any other version. Can't wait to see what you do next.

EDIT:did a little more testing and it enabled the process viewer dev option. when i open the media scanner i see android.process.media for a few seconds then it turns red gets a red line across it and disappears...does this mean it stops...why would it stop...2 much data...2 big of a card?? it's about the only thing stopping me from using this on a full time basis. that and the lack of bluetooth....but i could do without that if i could get my music...i should also add that the raw image viewer does find images to display...(makes me assume it can read the card then)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mjchoi824:
i don't know if i'm doing something wrong, but i just copied the files from the zip over the files from the original files i had on my card. i ran haret and when android booted up everything was the same. are those new apps supposed to show up in the apps list?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
ya there should be new apps in the list. just try deleting everything and starting over again from a fresh download.

thanks a lot jake! its pretty cool, i like that ambient music player for the most part.

the things stopping ME from using android are lack of keyboard and calendar :(

@dzo/raymondf13:

has anything been going on with that tmobile employee? (please tell me youre pming back and forth and have things moving right along! :))
[Touch CDMA Android Development] LeftysRule22:
(If this has been brought up already please ignore me)

To whomever is developing or decides to develop the keyboard, it would be really awesome to see T9 functionality. I personally dont think a full screen portrait keyboard that is usable for someone who texts 3k+ messages a month is possible on our screen. Maybe i have fat fingers...but the touch keypad on WM works very nicely.

Anyway, great work dzo and everyone else contributing i cant wait to see where this goes and dump WM!

-Lefty
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
The current kbd is kernel device driver so T9 is not really possible or sensible, what will eventually happen is that a user space kbd will be used. I've already seen a few kbd implementations so it is possible, we will just have to wait till somebody does it well.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
oops sry noob moment :p
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
i definitely would second prediction capability. but i gotta argue on a fulscreen portrait keyboard not being usable (coming from a 3k+ texter)

try this one out:

ftp://ppcgeeks.com/Vogue/Users/jim256 - jim2561/Best WM Soft KB Setup.zip

that'll solve all your worries till android is great and arrives full.

what I propose is...a keyboard for android just like this one i have posted but of course with a couple enhancements :) I have already contacted a dev concerning this.

the only bad thing about this is that:

a. vogue screen is not very sensitive at all.

b. vogue screen too small.

c. vogue (on wm) is slow.

im hoping to have an HD within about 5 weeks for real cheap (chk my sig!) and i CANNOT WAIT to try out my kb setup on that....will never want for a hd kb again :)...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Grondinm:
hat to be a bug but dzo any idea on this?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2772891&postcount=1093
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Hi, the card is mounted in the correct place but it has the root filesystem on it so it isn't mounted in the way android expects it to be. The media scanner works but it only seems to find audio files at the moment. Perhaps if you put pics in /dcim/Camera it will find them. I'm not too bothered about fixing all this stuff at the moment because it will be much easier when the thing is open sourced.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] njakobs:
Hey I have been using this setup for a few days now. Only change I would make if possible would be to use the 'end' key as back and the power button to switch off the screen as the end key does now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] violentz313:
Is anyone able to download anything through the browser everytime i try it says cant find sd card?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
no not yet. however my file pack contains a program called httpdownloader which supposedly can do this. i havent had any luck.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] violentz313:
thanks for the quick response
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
I've finally got the power collapse to work, there's a test kernel here:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage

It should put the phone into a very low power mode when suspended (led is red when power collapsed). I haven't had time to do lots of testing, let me know if you have problems with it.

Martin
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
awesome. ill dl and report back tomo afternoon. any progress on getting that rom off the g1?

would that even be our best move or...what? not to insult or imply anything but, I find it sort of odd that you aren't more excited about that possibility. care to enlighten us as to why?

thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mispook01:
NOOB here. If I read this entire thread, do you think that it would be appropriate for an Android noob to experiment with this ROM?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pchasco:
So far so good with the power collapse. It's hard to determine its effect on the battery though without a power meter. It's not running warm though, so I would assume that it's not draining the battery.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Kiraly:
LOL! I'm an "Android noob" and I did not read the entire thread and I'm experimenting with it. :D

I think if you are technically inclined and know how to do a soft reset and install a CAB then you'll be fine. This will not make any changes to your WM system on your phone. If you have problems when in Android, all you have to do is soft reset to get back into the window environment.

Go for it!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
It'll all be open source in a week or so anyway but a look at the g1 rom would be nice.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jim256:
o WOW that soon huh? Ok

great

, thanks for the response.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pchasco:
It seems about half the time the phone will not wake up completely when the power button is pressed. It's strange, really. The LED will change to yellow, but the screen will not come on. But later the phone may wake up, even without a reboot. I had a call come through and could not answer it because the screen would not come on and the send key didn't work. The phone vibrated and rang just fine though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Littlefield:
How significantly is our lives going to improve when this goes open source?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Your life probably won't improve significantly until you move to New Zealand! When android is open source though we will get some more apps (Mail, IM, etc) and will be able to customise the userspace for our devices (dialpad).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zkush:
when i send and recieve texts with android and then go back to wm, i notice that my texts dont carry over and some are deleted. any way to fix this?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] njakobs:
Hey Martin, been trying this kernel out and it does seem to put into very low power mode. Too low in fact. Works fine for about 10mins accepting incoming calls and waking from button presses etc but after that I can't bring the device back to life. No buttons work and when an income call is made there is not response from the device.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
OK, I'll look into it, there are bound to be problems with this at first since it's fairly complicated and very hard to debug.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] njakobs:
Been testing this further and haven't been able to pin down when or why it fails to wake up.

On a side note though I was having one of my staff send me txt messages to test. They were sending txt messages with no body which would cause android to crash.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
I can recreate the no wakeup problem by telneting to the device while it is asleep and after a few wakeups it stays asleep. I'll try to find out why. I'll take a look at the SMS code to see why an empty message would crash it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] buggers999:
Titan Wifi

So I have a Sprint Mogul but don't have a data plan. I usually get Internet through wifi/bluetooth, but I can't seem to find any settings for these. Does anybody have any fixes/drivers that I can stick in?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] njakobs:
With further testing I found that when the phone appeared not to wake up it was the screen not waking. By pushing multiple buttons I managed to somehow call my work number. While the screen remained blank and red light showing. This seemed to kickstart the screen again and I have had no problems since, running now for 3hrs.

Seems to be a fault in the screen activation component

Not sure if that helps Martin.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] furrypotato:
So, as a complete aside here .....

From someone desperate for Android but who is using a HTC Elf....

What's it like using it on your phones guys ?

Even though it's not a proper ROM install yet etc are you enjoying it ?

Just wait till it's fully released and you get all the new gmail apps etc. I will be SOOOooooooooooooo jealous :(

In the meantime I'm left to wish we had someone like Martin developing on the Elf. Oh well, looks like I'll have to wait another 6 months till teh end of my contract for an Android phone :(
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
I've noticed the non-wakeup issue myself, however I can always force it to wake up by "mashing" a combination of the power button, volume down, and the red "end" button.

Another issue I've noticed: When I'm in a call and the screen shuts off, I can't end the call by just hitting the "end" button. I have to hit the power button to bring the screen back, THEN hit "end" to actually hang up. This issue wasn't there before.

However, on the plus side, I've noticed that you can actually power-off the phone now, without pressing the reset button!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pchasco:
I'm sure I'm being ignorant here, but how do you adjust the volume?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
For right now, I think you have to set the volume in WM before loading android.

By holding the END button down, you bring up a menu that allows you to toggle in and out of Silent Mode though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
force quit?

Is there a way to force-quit an app, without it freezing? Twice now (over a few different kernels) the sound has locked up on my and I can't hear anything from any apps. Given that the app that is locking the sound would be running in the background, is there a way to force an app to quit?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
alarm and power save

Something else I've noticed with the new power-collapse kernel is that alarms do not work while the power is suspended, but instead wait until you un-suspend the phone.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Magister2k7:
Mogul keyboard

dzo,

I need some help.

I tried to catch GPIOs for Mogul keyboard with HaRET, but I'm getting same codes for different keys. For example, right softkey and letter Q both return GPIO 216. So there is other way to get keys.

Any suggestions?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
It will be a matrix device which means you have to set a gpio for a row and then read a gpio for a column (or vice versa). Also that 216 probably means gpio 16 in bank 2.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Magister2k7:
Hm.. that is too complicated for me :(

As far as I see, in yours board-vogue.c there is a key table, and it is passed somewhere else... and currently I have no idea how (where) to set/read GPIOs.

Something like You described is used in Kaiser's keyboard driver, but it uses EGPIOs, not GPIOs. And if I'm trying to link Kaiser's driver the kernel locks.

--

btw, does ImportVCard works for somebody? I put it into folder /apps of data.img, changed permissions to 644 (this really matters!) and it worked ok.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
I have been searching the internet finding the latest applications:

www.android-freeware.org

www.helloandroid.com

www.androidauthority.com

www.android-community.com

www.phandroid.com

As we grow closer to the t-mobile G1 launch date, apps seem to be popping up all over the place. I have added as many of them to my data/app folder as I could find for you to try out:

AccuTracking

aDialCode

AllBinaryArcade

AmarokRemote

Ambient 0.2

Constitution

ContactsSync (this one is really cool)

FBReaderJ

FeetAndInchCalc

FlashcardsLight

Import_VCard

MultiReader

Stocker

TunesRemote

vOICeAndroid

WordMate

Try them out from eTiger's site www.myhtcphone.com/files/data_mods.zip

Extract, and replace your data.img w/ this one. This will erase all of your saved settings.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eoche007:
G1 Rom Dump

Just a heads up....someone dumped the G1 rom over at the "Dream android development" forum.

Also, I was just wondering how you get the Import_VCard to transfer your contacts. Thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
I assume you mean here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=437703

From reading this thread, it sounds like some stuff is missing. Martin have you had a chance to look at this? It contains system/app/ which has numerous APK's that I think you were after.

EDIT: Trying to drop all of the Rom Dump's /system/ folder, but it says there isn't enough room. I think this is because system.img is 64mb. I transfered all the files i could and tried booting it up. It is listing info about android power wake up at xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
I've had a look at it, but the apps are all odex files (optimised dex perhaps) and I haven't had any luck getting them to run yet.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
I am not having any luck either. I'll keep playing with it. EDIT Found file "Glance.apk" in /download/ folder and it works. However, it was not an odex file.

On a side note, I was reading a thread here at xda, about a linux port to alpine (which I know very little about). What was interesting was that they were launching Haret from the device, while the linux file system existed on an ext3 formatted SD card. Do you see any benefit to this method?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
as in the SD card was already preformatted and used only for Android?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=263079&page=20

Post #197
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
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[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
as soon as i am finished with my room (should be today or tomorrow) i can get my desk installed and FINALLY have a place to work again so you should start to see a lot more help from me on this.

I think a checklist of what needs to be fixed, what needs to be added, and a wishlist of features would be helpful for Martin and others interested in helping.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] spamftw:
help

WOW, ANDROID IS AMAZING

It is very slick, so slick in fact that i'd like to try using itstead of WinMo as my main OS. The only issue of course is Contact importing. I sync contacts with an exchange server, so if I could understand how to install this app

http://www.wrike.com/g1-exchange-sync.html

I don't think i'd have a problem.

What's the easiest way to install an android app? Before you go off on me for not searching, please remember there are some 120 pages to this thread, and it's not exactly the easiest to search

EDIT: So, I managed to find a img file with this program installed, but it doesnt seem to work with my exchange server. Any other ways to import contacts?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gima2002:
Its officaily open sourced

I have been looking forward to this day for a while. The OS has been fully open sourced at the site bellow. I am hoping dzo can get it to a fully fuinctioning state. I find the following to be problems for me at least.

- Not being able to directly dial the internet within android.

- The lack of camera support.

I will start working on a soft keyboard and I will update you guys on my progress. I have experience in java but not in graphic design so if any one can contribute graphics that would help.

http://sites.google.com/a/android.com/opensource/Home
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thebond:
hiii i am using HTC touch ( gsm version, ELF ) has any1 sucessfully installed this on touch or is touch compatible for this... i am eagerly waiting to install this on my device.....
[Touch CDMA Android Development] etiger13:
Open Source Finally!

Now we will probably see a lot more people flock to Android, especially since G1 is launching tomorrow. Darn Sprint hurry up and release the Touch Pro so we can get Android on it.

Looks like there aren't plans to release/develop a soft keyboard until early next year. We'll see about that. I bet thats one of the first things developed, after people work on getting it to work on various devices.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
afaik, no one's run it on an ELF yet, just the Vogue. I have no idea how to find out which one my HTC Touch from Telus is, but I have to assume it's a Vogue, since Android runs on it just fine.

However, now that the source is released, I'd bet money that you will have an ELF version sooner rather than later. :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thebond:
ya hopefully.....people are trying hard to make this thing work in ELF....
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jaredakelly:
what are the chances of making this an actual OS instead of it running linux off windows