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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That's because the preview size has been increased from 250 to 500 characters, but only for new messages. You can delete local messages and sync again to update existing messages.

Background: message texts are stored in files because the texts cannot be stored into the database because of fixed sqlite limits. Generating the preview on the fly from HTML stored in files is too slow, which is why the preview is generated and stored in the database after a message text has been fetched.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Can somebody with a Huawei P30 Pro please try if attachments can be saved?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.782

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds a setting to enable preview texts for wearables. Please be aware that new message notifications will be sent to a wearable only after the message text has been downloaded when this setting is enabled, which might not happen if there is no internet connection or when there is a download limit for metered connections set in the connection settings.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
I had so much hope about the new wearable.Sorry but its not working to me. I turn on the wearable setting but its showing only the Email-Adress and the Subject.

Maybe its on my side. what do you mean with download limit for metered connections?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It works for me, so I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work for you.

Note that the settings will apply to new notifications only.

Please see this FAQ for more information:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq126
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.783

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds support for a SOCKS proxy, which seem to make FairEmail the first open source email app supporting this. You can use this for example to route all email traffic into TOR using Orbot.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
This feature should make it all the more attractive to tin foil privacy guys ,Good !
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
Awesome stuff. Worked on a test email that I sent. Feature complete mail client for me now.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
App just keeps getting more robust.

Isn't orbot just another honeypot ~ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[Android Apps and Games] Ursal:
[MENTION=428817]ammarr[/MENTION] which Smartwatch? Didnt work with my Samsung watch
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
Everything is set correctly.

Maybe this is helpful for a dev?: https://developer.samsung.com/galaxy-watch/design/structure/notifications & https://developer.samsung.com/services-and-apis
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail uses standard Android notifications and only set the "local only" flag to control if a notification should or shouldn't go to an external device. FairEmail does not have control over how this is transmitted to the wearable.

I use GadgetBrige and a Mi band 3 for testing.

Somebody just rated two star for FairEmail not sending a message preview text to a wearable, so at least today I am done looking into this.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The SOCKS proxy has more applications than TOR only.

People in China will likely appreciate this to be able to circumvent the Great Firewall of China, for example with Shadowsocks.
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
do not let it annoy you!

But would still be great if you could look again someday.

So far, you have always done that somehow :D
[Android Apps and Games] RE_Interceptor:
Hey Marcel,

thanks a lot for this App! :)

All I need and expect from a „simple“ mail client and a lot more on top of that ... just installed it today and will definitely donate :good:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am afraid I can do little more than was already done.

Maybe there are settings in your wearable app that needs changing?

Which wearable device are you using?
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
Nope its all set.

A Samsung Galaxy Watch 46mm.

One time today ive got a complete Notification on the Watch. But i didnt how why.

But keep cool. it would be a "nice cake" if it would work, but iam not so sad to give your app 2 Stars if not ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

stable

version 1.784 "Yurgovuchia"

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I just downloaded a dinosaur ?

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https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases/tag/1.784
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
I'm using a Pebble.

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Just sent another donation for FE. I realize it won't get anywhere close to the € 250,000 number you guesstimated ;) but hopefully every bit adds up! Thank you for your dedication to this app.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have made some more changes for wearables, so if the message preview doesn't appear on your wearable, you can contact me via here for a test version:

https://contact.faircode.eu/?product=fairemailstandalone
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
A thought:

In Aquamail there are 2 methods to forward an email : one is the standard way, the other removes the original sender and recipients' names and addresses.

Seems like a useful feature for a privacy oriented app. I used to use it a lot to protect the original sender's privacy.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can edit the forwarded message with the pencil icon in FairEmail and remove from the forwarded message what you want.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I know. But that is several steps. The automated privacy forwarding was a convenient single click.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
For me it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_creep

There really shouldn't be a button for anything and everything or people are not going to understand how to use the app in the end. It will also result in unnecessary questions and I already get enough questions.

Simplicity is an art ...
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Antoine de Saint-Exupery says

""Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away""
[Android Apps and Games] AndyDE2:
View Mails in Plain Text

Hi,

I am looking for a secure Mail-App for beginners.

According to statistics a lot of users still fall for phising mails. Disguising links in an email using HTML is easy. And most users don't even know about it.

Thats why - for example - Thunderbird mail (for pc) allows users to view the message body as Original HTML, Simple HTML or Plain Text. When selecting, each message will be displayed in the selected mode.

I wanted to link to a screenshot showing the menu-option, but XDA prevents new users from linking to outside sites.

Is it possible to insert something like this in a future version?

Thx and Greetings
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
You don't need such an option in FE, because FE already has it built in and does it automatically: By default, FE only displays the secure text part of a mail. Only, if the user wants to see an HTML mail in individual cases, he only has to click once on the button for the view of the original mail.
[Android Apps and Games] AndyDE2:
Unfortunatly it does not.

I have a test-phishing mail here. If viewed in Text-Only mode in Thunderbird it displays no text at all. Only a short message that the user should switch to HTML-Mode to view the mail.

The reason is clear, because in plain text, you can't disguise the link within the mail.

In the HTML-part of that mail there is a link the user is tempted to click. If he clicks it, he is forwarded to a fake paypal-site or whatever.

Yes, I know that Fairemail shows a popup when clicking on the link, that the target is different from the supposed target. And this alone is a very good feature. But since I am asking for beginners, they probably don't know what to do with it. I would love to attach a few pictures to illustrate. But I can't since I am a new user here and the board-software does not allow it.

I don't think that anyone would doubt, that a text-only view mode would make reading emails more secure. Since I have not found a single Mail-App on Android that has that feature, I thought it would make a very good stand alone feature for an App. To stand out of the crowd of apps.

So if its not hard to implement, why not have it. If it's too hard to implement. Forget I asked.

Thanks and greetings.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
You can tell the user that one generally don't click on links in mails. A user should at least learn the basic things before purchasing and using a PC. There are also several paid PC tutorials. By the way, I know the display options of TB, so I don't need a picture - therefore I am of the opinion that they are not necessary in FE [if a user, before he sits in the car, also really first makes the driving license and reads the operating instructions ;) ].
[Android Apps and Games] AndyDE2:
Why? PC software has the needed options. It's Android with it missing the basic security functions to avoid phishing.

And I agree... the user should learn about it. But on the other hand, if they did, they would not use Android in the first place. :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I think two views is more than enough on a mobile device, especially with simplicity in mind. FairEmail properly warms about suspicious links, so why should one be willing to offer the simple (certainly not in technical sense) HTML view for a plain text view for occasionally a phishing message? Even safer is writing letters instead of emails. How far are you willing to go?

In my experience more people want the opposite: always display original messages. This is probably the reason you won't find what you are looking for. So, FairEmail is probably the best you can get for your purpose..
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.785

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This is mostly a maintenance release.
[Android Apps and Games] xmiseggs:
Hi, I don't know if there's the next request.

With a Gmail account, in a thread I get gray emails that are in the trash, I don't want to see messages in a thread that were deleted, how can I stop seeing these deleted messages in the conversation?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This has been discussed already multiple times.

It is not very often that you delete messages from a conversation and if you did accidentally delete a message you can find the message back easier this way. If you really don't want to see the message again anymore, you'll have to permanently delete it via the message three-dots 'more' menu. Note that this is irreversible.
[Android Apps and Games] xFlesk:
hello there

first of all i'd like to thank you for a great app ;)

have a little question, dont kill me if it was already spoken, but this topic grown already alot and it is hard to follow ;)

is there any way to set by default ability to show images in all emails ? instead of manually picking each of them and clicking on the images to reveal.

cheers
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
See the first option under settings >Privacy
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a button/icon just above the message to show all images.
[Android Apps and Games] xFlesk:
this is what im talking about ;) this button, i would like to set by default what this button does to all my emails.

i turned it off for now and see no differences. still must click on image to reveal.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
If you are talking of the button highlighted, then** NO**, it defeats the purpose of a privacy conscious mail client. If it's something else please add a screenshot
[Android Apps and Games] xFlesk:
almost, sometimes when you have things like logos, icons etc in email, they are invisible. but then you have this image button, just on the left of one you showed me. you must click it, and then allow it to show all those logos etc.

hope you get it, because i have no idea how to take screenshot on my phone ;)
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
#thedevilsdictionary #AmbroseBierce #nikedlab

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nikedlab.na.devildictionary

PERFECTION, n. An imaginary state of quality distinguished from the actual by an element known as excellence; an attribute of the critic. —Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Good one :)

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I can't figure out what you mean. Surely you can Google how to take a screenshot and upload it using the clip icon at bottom left.

Anyway, if you are talking of "inline images", there is an option under settings - display
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can allow showing images by default per (trusted) sender by checking 'Don't ask again for ...'. If you are looking for an option to always allow images for all senders: that isn't possible and given the goal of FairEmail, privacy and security, this won't be made possible either.
[Android Apps and Games] xFlesk:
this is a button im talking about, and what it does, is showing all the icons, logos etc

i want to have this option set on by default.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please see here:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-frequently-requested-features
[Android Apps and Games] xFlesk:
ok, thank you for clarify ;) if its a security messure then let it be ;)
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Perfectly logical. I agree.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am aware that there is a problem with the Yubikey and I am aware that there are problems with the notifications on Pebble and Samsung watches, see here for some more details:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-known-problems

I have already tried to fix both problems, but I couldn't so far. Of course, it would be easier if I could test with the actual hardware. If FairEmail would make me lots of money, I wouldn't hesitate to buy the required hardware, but this is not the case. If it is important to you that these problems will be fixed, you'll have to wait until either somebody owning the hardware fixes the problem or you'll need to sponsor me the required hardware.

Note that I already bought a Mi band 3 to debug wearable problems.

I have asked Yubikey 10 days ago to sponsor me a key, but I didn't hear back from them, so I am afraid my request is being ignored. I don't think Samsung will sponsor me a watch, so I am going to save me the trouble of asking for it.

On the positive side: in the next version you can tap on a contact photo to go to the contact, which can be handy if you want to call the contact for example.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
I am going to be unpopular by saying this. Isn't this feature creep? I feel so, maybe wrong

What's to stop one from requesting as an extension message using slack or telegram or WhatsApp and then share media?

It's an email client and damn good one at that, correction, best one - not a communication hub, please don't add such things.

Feel free to ignore me but I had to say this
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I had actually a need for this myself (I hope this is allowed). Instead of looking up the contact in the contacts app I can now just tap the contact photo to directly go to the contact info and call right away.

It doesn't take space, visually there is nothing changed, it is just that you can now tap a contact photo.
[Android Apps and Games] sylvn:
I was missing this feature, it will also be useful when you want to add the email address to a contact
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Actually, that was already possible by tapping on the little address book icon in the addresses section.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Marcel, of course it's your app and you started designing this because you needed an email client for yourself and shared with us. So it's fine from that Point of view.

I don't wish to debate but I think I stated my case.

This addition in no way detracts my appreciation for your work...
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] FYI, notifications have continued to work well on my Pebble so thank you for that. Contact card "linking" is useful as well. I think overall you're choosing the right priorities to focus on ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Are you saying that you are seeing a preview of the message text on your Pebble?
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Hi,

today I realized that it is possible that a mail address in a contact created with Google contacts can have a trailing space. Some keyboards will add this automatically. With a trailing space FE isn't able to display the contact photo, because of the space there is no match.

Yes, I know this is a bug of Google contacts. But would be nice if FE would trim mail addresses before trying to match.
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
Yes, since .782 I believe. I messaged about it yesterday as well:

https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/source-email-t3824168/post80614069#post80614069

It also prompted me to send an extra donation: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=80615285&postcount=9883

I just sent another test email just now, and yes message subject + body are both showing up just fine on my Pebble.
[Android Apps and Games] HsHTCsen:
Hi, i have two accounts. How do I keep my main account to sync always and secondary to sync manually or hourly? I've looked in setting but must be overlooking something and have kept Fair Email as default settings. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will see what I can do.

Edit: unfortunately, this cannot be done without a performance penalty.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Okay, great, so it seems message previews are sent correctly to a Pebble and a Mi band 3, but not to a Samsung watch, which more or less confirms there is a problem in the Samsung software.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please see this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq79

In addition: it is not possible to sync one account always and one account periodically. There were a few versions of FairEmail were this was possible, but this was complicated both technically and in usage, which is why this was removed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.786 1.787

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION], maybe you'll like this article https://www.trouw.nl/economie/online-reviews-uw-oordeel-is-onze-business~bcb5932a/ (sorry folks, Dutch only).
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Should this https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/a6fa65b788166fb15f051b32cd67b1c116b9af66

fix the problem? It doesn't.

Is the performance penalty really significant?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The referenced commit is meant to increase performance, but is not a solution for searching for trimmed email addresses.

The problem is that searching for a trimmed email address cannot be done on key, so it can only be a lineair search, which can be problematic if somebody has many contacts. So, this cannot really be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] HsHTCsen:
Thanks for the reply.

I read an article that battery stats were conflicting in relation to Fair Email because of percentages etc and how they're displayed suggesting FE was using more than it actually is.

However, I see eu.faircode.email:account.2 is using quite a bit more battery relative to eu.faircode.email:account.1, could this be because there's more folders in an account? I have default settings, thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The number of folders will not matter much.

If one of the accounts is using more battery power, there is likely another reason. For example due to frequent reconnects or due to the provider often sending "Still there!". Not supporting push messages is another possible reason.

Please see this FAQ for more information and solutions:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq39
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.788

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version allows you to set 'move' as swipe and as notification action. The swipe 'move' action will show the folder select dialog. The notification 'move' action will use the default 'move' folder as configured in the account settings.

Please report any problems you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have changed the title everywhere from "Open source, privacy friendly email app" into "Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app" because I believe FairEmail is now really, really feature complete.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This problem should be fixed in the next release.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Edit: I have added a FAQ about this:

"Without IMAP IDLE emails need to be periodically fetched, which is a waste of battery power and internet bandwidth and will delay notification of new emails." (https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md#FAQ4)

Polling is something from the 1980's. I like to discourage using providers that do not support IDLE. Maybe I will change my mind about this later.
[Android Apps and Games] geronimoge:
Adding it would be great since i need an mail app that is able to handle keys/encrypted mails.
[Android Apps and Games] Namnodorel:
Does the name need to have "Mail" in it? On one hand, that makes ot obviously odentifieable as a mail application, but on the other more generic and easier to forget. And I agree that a unique and memorable name is important.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
For finding the app in the Play store or with a search engine I think having "email" or "mail" in the name is pretty crucial.
[Android Apps and Games] jerryn70:
Post some screenshots in the main post :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
As soon as things stabilize.
[Android Apps and Games] Orphee:
Hello, I'm using Protonmail service/app so I won't use your app but i really appreciate your work and this initiative.

I was using K-9 mail before.

Thank you for your hard work. Hope it will be a success.
[Android Apps and Games] kindlyoldbear:
[APP][6.0+] Open source email

Call it Ishmail.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_(Moby-****)
[Android Apps and Games] :
How about Esoteric Mail? Or Esoteric Post?

Mostly for definition 3, here, but the others can apply too.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/esoteric

Eso for short?
[Android Apps and Games] vipinaggar:
where are the attachments downloaded
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Into the database of the app. The next version will allow you to view attachments.
[Android Apps and Games] Droidphilev:
Woah Marcel! Amazing already. I use Aqua mail for the moment but will surely start using this app! Is it possible to add Fastmail?

imap.fastmail.com

Port	993

SSL/TLS Encryption enabled, but not STARTTLS

smtp.fastmail.com

Port	465

SSL/TLS Encryption enabled, but not STARTTLS
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FastMail will be added in the next version. Hopefully you tested if it works.
[Android Apps and Games] Droidphilev:
Of course. Using it right now although Aqua mail still runs to get some sounds.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am going to work on new email notifications now ...
[Android Apps and Games] xXxGeek:
FastMail has 1 tracker.

Version:
[Android Apps and Games] glops:
Good evening,

Is it possible to add sfr.fr?

imap

host="imap.sfr.fr"

port="993"

SSL/TLS Encryption enabled

smtp

host="smtp.sfr.fr"

port="465"

SSL/TLS Encryption enabled

Tested

To send email : Done

To receive email : I have the message "IDLE not supported"

Thanks for your work
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am sorry, but this provider will not be added because IDLE support is required, see here for more information:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md#FAQ4