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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
"... we intend to require new apps and games to publish with the Android App Bundle on Google Play in the second half of 2021."

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2020/08/recent-android-app-bundle-improvements.html

This means I have to hand over the signing key of all my apps to Google. Please read here more about this:

https://commonsware.com/blog/2020/09/23/uncomfortable-questions-app-signing.html

This would be worth an XDA article!
[Android Apps and Games] droidsometimes:
Dear Marcel,

as others said already, you are doing a fantastic job.

FairEmail is the e-mail endgame for Android, and you won it. Don't let them tell you any different.

Don't get so worked up about a few people who are either trolling or clearly not qualified to use your product(s).

And stop checking Play Store ratings for a while. That is an order!

Also, yeah, you sound like you really should dial it down a notch - you know, work life balance and stuff.

For starters, one day each week, do something different, don't work on your projects. Do something else, something that doesn't involve on zeroes and ones.

I know it's hard, I can imagine you may feel it's no longer possible for you, because of the workload, the responsibility, and whatnot.

But it is doable. And you have the right to do it.

You owe us nothing.

Don't burn out - not good - I can say from experience.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
hello marcel , bad to hear about still getting one star ratings from people of google play.

i was just thinking about my privacy and the reasons i do not use google services for anything unless somehow cannot be avoided. (which , if i have to use google i find an alternative or just do without). and yes i do understand that being on android puts me in bed with google ; but , have you considered , and i'm pretty certain you have , to just use git and fdroid? i know that the playstore makes FE available worldwide , but is it worth the emotional/psychological strain its placing on you? (which of course only you can determine).

but maybe there is an alternative way (not that i have it) of making it more available than the play store.

just some of my thoughts , which are worth what you pay for them. nada! lol

anyways , like most everyone else on xda and fdroid ; your work , knowledge and time do not go without appreciation.

all the best for you and yours marcel ,

mrrocketdog {emoji:BigSmile}
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Only publishing outside of the Play store is not an option anymore because it would not be very nice to the people having supported the project with a purchase.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
2020
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Last section:

"Requirement for new apps in the second half of 2021"

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2020/08/recent-android-app-bundle-improvements.html
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
I would think that for any privacy/security-minded developer to be even a *tiny* bit comfortable with this is it would require three things from Google: Honesty, Transparency, and Responsiveness to devs, none of which Google is known for.

Yet another reason for me to hate Google.
[Android Apps and Games] h-cspu:
Found a small bug.

Select text (for example a word) and hit copy. Afterward all text to the start of the e-mail is selected. This happens not, if you show the original e-mail, only in the reformatted version.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Selecting text and copying/pasting is done by Android and not by an app, so this might be a bug in your Android version.

In any case I cannot reproduce this behavior.
[Android Apps and Games] h-cspu:
Thanks for your quick response.

Hm, I haven't seen this behavior in any other app that I use.

I am using LineageOS 14.1.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1335

Changelog/dowload:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version will handle network changes in another, more straightforward way in an attempt to fix some edge cases and to reconnect faster. Note that there will always be a wait time of 90 seconds between network changes:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq123

This is to prevent this issue:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq23

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] Wolfsen:
Hi,

first of all thanks a lot for this great E-mail Client! I use it based on Sailfish OS's Android Runtime. Everything runs smoothly, except for attachment handling. If I want to save an attachment and click on the disk icon, I end up in Androids Download Section, but without anything more happened, so no file saved/downloaded. When using K-9 Mail for the same procedure, the attachment is downloaded to the Android Download Section and I can open it from there. Not sure what the exact difference in the handling is, but it would be so nice if this feature would work within my system. Especially cause I prefer FairEmail for a bunch of reasons!

Any thoughts on this? Thanks in advance for every help!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail uses the storage access framework to read and write files outside of the app storage space, so that no all files permissions needs to be granted. This is more or less mandatory on recent Android versions now. Please see this FAQ for more information:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq25

If saving files doesn't work properly for you this way, there is a bug in the OS.

Edit: please reproduce the issue and immediately after it send me the debug info by long pressing 'Support' in the navigation menu and I will see what I can find in the log files. Please include a short problem description, so I know what it is about.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Another example how unreasonable people can be: 2 stars because the quick setup wizard does not work for all accounts, while saying the app works fine for the rest! This is highly motivating, not.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
maybe you'll have to "dumb-it-down" in the wizard dropdown email acct. choices from "other" to "every freakin other email acct."

jk , jeez even i got that one. lmao
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Are you suggesting to generate a list of providers from A to ZZZZZZZZZZ ?

If only providers would configure auto discovery:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6186
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
no no no [emoji4] not an A - Zzzz list of every other provider ; but literally the words , "every other email acct."
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am planning to add this to the "welcome" screen:

I like to hear what you think about this and if this is proper English.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
My proposal (translated per DeepSleep from german to english):
[Android Apps and Games] crypta:
What for?

You won't get 100% 5 star reviews in a world with ppl believing the earth is flat. This gets a bit pathetic.

All you can do is to accept it. It also would improve your personal life.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
hi marcel , i just want to say that , yes your grammar is correct but that [MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] 's translation 'from deep sleep german to english is worded a bit better. after all , dave"s rule #1 is that "wording is important" (my book of rule #1s will be published soon. lol). and also that what [MENTION=265865]crypta[/MENTION] states , in general , is also true. cant please all the people all of the time.

i say add it if not "too much work" for you and see if it helps.

if people would just ask questions if confused before rating would be ideal.

that's all the ranting for now. good luck [emoji8]
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1335

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds a display option for a beige background when using cards with a light theme. Please let me know what you think about this and whether this should be the default or not.

In fact it is not really beige but Cosmic Latte, so FairEmail is suitable for astronauts too now ;)

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
I love it! Please leave it there! Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is not going away, no worries. I like it myself too!
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
'use beige background for cards' is not quite correct in my opinion, because not the cards - as I thought in the beginning - but the rest outside the cards gets this color. Apart from that I also like it very much.

'use beige background for card display' is in my opinion more appropriate.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, I am aware of this, but I couldn't think of a better and short title. Suggestions are welcome.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
" Beige background when using card style"

( light themes)
[Android Apps and Games] monsterkruemel:
great! i like cosmic latte very much!

should be default.

thx for heavy development ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It will be in the next release for new users ;)

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/bb702e751974201261c94a3d76b1fc0f1c15882d
[Android Apps and Games] monsterkruemel:
maybe slightly rounded corners would look good on the cards too ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Cards already have round corners:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/b...a/eu/faircode/email/ViewCardOptional.java#L67
[Android Apps and Games] monsterkruemel:
i need glasses. obviously :cyclops:
[Android Apps and Games] avalx:
I normally use dark theme, but this is really so nice I might reconsider using it. ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It won't work for the dark theme, at least I don't see how without making it lighter.

I switched myself to auto dark/light after this change. This will work on Android versions which support this only though.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
This design enhancement is a stroke of genius , Marcel like so many other features / functions u have provided in this app.:good:
[Android Apps and Games] avalx:
Yes, I know it doesn't work for dark theme - I switched to light theme temporary to test this. I'm not sure my device supports auto dark/light functionality but will look into it - thanks for the tip.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I guess you are a latte lover ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Auto dark/light mode is available from Android 10 and can be enabled in the FairEmail theme settings.

https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/look-and-feel/darktheme
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Tea actually:)
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I just switched to it and really like it. Very nice.

I would be in favor of it being the default.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released a GitHub and Play store test version with cosmic latte as default, so let's see what people say.
[Android Apps and Games] Wolfsen:
Thanks a lot for your quick reply and help! I've just send you the support-based e-mail (great feature by the way). I'm not sure if I can change something within Sailfish OS's Alien Dalvik, have to check for that...
[Android Apps and Games] KOHO:
Swipe Action > set both left and right action to 'Trash' is not working

The last few releases, seems like 'Set Swipe Action' to 'Trash' is not working for both left & right swipe action. But will work if set to other actions other than Trash.

Can Dev please take a look? Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Which trash folder did you define in the account settings?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The Dev has taken a look and the Dev can select the same target folder in the account settings for the left and right swipe action. The Dev also didn't change anything to this for a while. So, the Dev is wondering how to reproduce this problem.
[Android Apps and Games] KOHO:
Thank you so much Dev.

I'm very new to this wonderful app and absolutely loving it.

I have no idea what's wrong with my swipe behavior, I used to be able to swipe to send some unimportant mails to the trash box, but recently unable to do so. However, if I configure swipe action to delete permanently, then I am able to swipe this mails away then be warn mail will be deleted permanently.

I'm sorry if I missed any configuration, this reaching for Dev's kind help on this matter.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Permanently deleting messages always needs to be confirmed and this cannot be disabled.

This won't be changed because it is no fun to support people who accidentally deleted messages irreversibly.

In general, I am advising against permanently deleting messages.

Please make sure there is a trash folder selected for the account and select the trash folder as right/left swipe target.
[Android Apps and Games] linuxtad:
Hello,

Recently a new Fairmail user and I am exploring the application options. I'm curious, perhaps I'm just overlooking the option, if there's a way to click on an account and have it take you directly to the inbox (or other default folder of your choice). With the current functionality and options selected I click account and am shown a folder list, then have to click the inbox. I would really love the option to skip the account folder list! Hitting back once in the Inbox folder or default folder of your choosing would then take you to the current accounts folders view.

I'd really appreciate knowing if I'm just overlooking this if already implemented. Thank you!

Regards,

Tom
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There are several options:

- Long press the account in the navigation menu

- Long press the inbox in the folder list to add it to the navigation menu

- Switch to unified folders as start screen in the display settings
[Android Apps and Games] linuxtad:
Thank you so much! I feel a bit embarrassed, I went back to the accounts and instead of tapping on the account name I tapped the small icon to the right which takes you directly to the inbox! Perfect and beeter than my previous email app as I can also access all account folders from the same area.

I am getting used to unified inboxes and find them useful at times, but on the weekends I really don't want to see my work emails which I end up clicking anyway (must be a bit of OCD kicking in :D).

Thank you for a wonderful application and I appreciate you sharing it with us. Also, thank you for the quick response! :svetius:

Regards,

Tom
[Android Apps and Games] lezig:
Hi M66B,

Hello All,

Thanks for this wonderful app I just discovered.

I'm a long time fan of your Xprivacy and now XPrivacyLua app (i have the pro version), so when I found out you where the dev and creator of FairEmail I jumped straight in and installed it eyes closed rignt away (well almost to be fair) and went there too for the pro version.

Thanks again for your work and dedication !

Chapeau bas ;)

Olivier
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks.

Please spread the word.
[Android Apps and Games] lezig:
Will do ! :)
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Sorry Marcel, I don't understand.

The blog post only mentions "new apps and games", not existing. From the post, I cannot conclude that they also want the signing keys from existing apps (or updates).

But even if. That change violates the agreement you signed for when you published your apps, and thus - according to European law at least - you are not bound to it anymore. You might want to consult a lawyer on this, but I am pretty sure this would allow you to move away from Google without losing your Play Store customers. You could simply offer them an alternative subscription.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
An expensive lawyer is not an option, so I will be a slave of Google I am afraid. Let's see how the "Epic" battle goes.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1338 1.1339 Thanos

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The main change is that the two tone material design icons are being used. Please let me know whether this is an improvement or not.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
*Love* them icons!!! :good::D
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Looks great!
[Android Apps and Games] Andriy U.:
Excellent icons! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Two-tone icons

I think they look great :cool:.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Very nice icons.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
also +1 on the icons.:good:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1340

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
With the new greyed (and nice) icons, the colored icons have a shaded filling now. (see screenshot)

It's a very personnal thought but I found this a little confusing to know if the accounts are connected or not.

(Hope to be clear)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The latest version changed this by using check marks for connected accounts and folders, but I am open for a better solution.
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Plain color like before.

The more confusing for me is the icon in the header (see screenshot).

Shape icon, not connected. Plain icon, connected.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Solid icons and two tone icons don't go very well together.

For example in the folder list it just looks ugly.
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
As I said yesterday, I think the new icons look great.

If I'm not mistaken, the "connected" clouds have now become lighter and had a tick added to them. Nice too - however, in these circumstances, I feel that the account names in bold black characters (e.g. when a new message has arrived) no longer look so good. Perhaps make them more grey?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Try to enable sender highlighting in the display options, which will result in using the accent color of the theme instead of black/white (depending on the theme) for unread messages. This is the default for new installations as well.

I don't want to make it less bold or lighter/darker because unread messages should be clearly marked.
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Thank you for that information. I've just tried what you suggested, and I realize that I had never seen the accent colour before.

My feeling is that the addition of an extra colour makes the overall effect less appealing, and that grey would be more elegant and more in keeping with the rest of the display. Of course, that is a matter of personal taste.

Objectively, however, I do think that grey characters would stand out sufficiently if they were bold.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Taste is very subjective and it is impossible to make everybody perfectly happy, also considering Android limitations like fixed themes only.
[Android Apps and Games] famusc:
Hi [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION],

I love the vertical split view and I always use it but sometimes I would like to be able to see a single message in full page, instead of split.

Is there a way to see a message in full page when vertical split is enabled?

In case could yuo add an option to do so?

Thx for your hard work
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am afraid you will need to choose. I can't add an option for every little thing. There are already comments enough about the number of options.
[Android Apps and Games] famusc:
You're right, and what about one of the swipe actions?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
All swipes actions are already occupied.

Suggestion: enable two column mode and not two row mode and rotate your device for the one or the other.
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Obviously.

Thank you for all the info.

I was not aware of the Android limitations in this area (in fact, I was aware of nothing in this area :D).

I've just switched back to bold = black.

One last question: is the default colour for non-bold text black or grey (it looks grey on my screen)?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The colors are defined here:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/app/src/main/res/values/colors.xml#L7

#b3000000 = 70% black
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.1341

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Message stars are solid again to make them more visible. I think the transition to two tone icons is completed now, but please let me know if you think something doesn't look right.

Today the average rating significantly jumped down again, which is rather frustrating. I don't see how this could be caused by real user reviews.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
? Perfect

Favicons re-sized? Looks better
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Favicons were not changed, so I am not sure what you mean.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Increasing above 9 minutes will likely result in problems for the system folders and might result in missing new emails.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will add a poll interval settings for individual folders.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Would an option to use polling at metered networks and synchronizing at unmetered be a good pro feature?

Edit: I'm probably using the wrong terminology. I mean an option that on unmetered networks folders set to manual update will sync themselves, and om metered networks you'll have to doe that manually.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Synchronizing of user folders was replaced by polling user folders because of connection failures due to too many folders being synchronized.

New messages should arrive in inboxes IMO anyway.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is already a provision to limit data usage: on a metered connection only message headers and small messages will be downloaded.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
That sounds great!

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

stable

version 1.76

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks

Fixes the problem of connecting failures in most cases

One odd folder still shows this but I suppose over repeated sync, it will get sorted out

If not will revert
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

See a new error

"Failed to create a new store connection" (repeated twice) on one of Gmail folders which had previously connection failure

I had reduced timing to 7 minutes for this and couple other folders with connection failure errors
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I cannot fix this, sorry. JavaMail is reporting this.

Edit: this could be due to connectivity problems.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Not a connectivity issue. Stable Wifi
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is more than a WiFi connection between the device and the email server, so this says nothing.

I have seen a lot of log files of you with connectivity trouble.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks for explaining

Since you remember from the many log files shared, is it something unique to me? IDK, since this is a clean install
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Basically you are the only one complaining about this.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
That's sad and bad for me.

I will watch for a few days and if things don't improve I may have to uninstall much against my wishes
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
small tweak suggestion.

Can you pit the reply all in the footer and put one of the less used icons, eg spam or archive in the menu instead?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Other email apps will have the same problem, but will not be as explicit about errors as FairEmail is.

You will only see emails delivered later.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I use spam and archive much more than reply all ...
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
touche !

How about swapping reply with reply all? As if there is only one reciipient then presumably reply all has the same effect as reply anyway..
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Reply and reply all are not the same with multiple recipients. I use reply more than reply all ...

Edit: FairEmail is open source, so you could change this yourself.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
They looked a little more compacted.. Eyesight :(