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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The sound option will be shown only when there is a suitable recording app.

See also the release notes:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases/tag/1.473
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
I tried this Audio Recorder (Record audio files) - https://f-droid.org/app/com.github.axet.audiorecorder

I have installed, but it seems the intent doesn't exist there.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
There seems to be a small visual bug with the size of the (smaller and bigger) scroll handler, when scrolling with and without touching it.

The smaller one is wider than the longer one.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.475 1.476

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
Sorry, what is the current message action bar?

The home message button is great!

Thomas
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The bar with the trash, archive, reply, etc actions.
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
You are now thinking about replacing these buttons with flying buttons?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A fixed message action bar (at the top or bottom of the conversation list) would require to check the possible actions on scrolling because a new message can be scrolled into view. A message in the archive folder cannot be archived anymore, etc. I have already tried this and basically it could work, but there is a price in the form of extra CPU load, which could cause delays on less powerful devices and could cause extra battery usage. For now I think the home button is a simple and effective solution, but lets see what other ideas there are.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Home button is great!
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
And what do you think of the bar on bottom with the back and forth buttons? This could be a bit higher and accommodate the home button and the upper bar buttons or 3 dot menu...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This will have the same problems as I have already explained: increased CPU load.
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
But why or where is the difference.

Now we have two bars. And there you have to load Individual, too. Archiv folder no archiv button...

I think it would be perfect to have one bar probably horizontal scrollbar.

And the order of the buttons Customizable.

The high priority direct and the low priority in 3 dot menu. Everything in the scrollable bar...

Thomas
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Development in FairEmail is moving so fast! (And I thought you were moving to maintenance). I went to do something else and suddenly I'm 2 versions behind!

Love the new home/edit. It's where it should always have been. You're brilliant Marcel.

Now you can move to maintenance. So I can have time to pay attention to something else.

;)
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
It works well if you record audio here with the original Android sound recorder (com.android.soundrecorder). By clicking on the video icon OpenCamera opens and I can take a *picture* with it and attach it to the mail. I can record a video with OpenCamera, but it will not be attached to the mail. Clicking on the picture symbol AND the attachment symbol opens the system file manager in both cases. Sometimes a file can be selected and attached there - but sometimes this is not possible because everything is grayed out there. In general, you should be able to select the apps - if there are several - that you want to use for the process. For example, I'd rather find a file with the TotalCommander, etc.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Then TotalCommander should implement a storage access framework provider and be ready for Android Q as well.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Should all apps be offered for selection if they are suitable? This would mean that - besides the TotalCommander - also the ES File Explorer does not meet these requirements.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The storage access framework is available since Android KitKat. The goal of this framework is to unify file management and more importantly to make it possible to run apps without access to all your files (without storage permissions), which is much better for your privacy. File managers do not fit into this goal. Privacy wise file managers are dangerous and unnecessary. Look what happened to ES file explorer. So, better get used to the built-in file manager.

https://www.howtogeek.com/231401/how-to-use-android-6.0’s-built-in-file-manager/
[Android Apps and Games] fitittome:
I've only just noticed this behaviour and is counterintuitive. If there is an e-mail address in the body text, FE hyperlinks the domain element of the address.

I can see why it/you may want to do this, maybe to check out the domains web site. But is it not more likely that you want to create a new e-mail to that address if you tap on it?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please see this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq90
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
By 'SE file explorer' do you mean 'Solid Explorer'? If yes, how can I select it after clicking on the attachment icon?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can't select a file explorer because FairEmail uses the storage access framework for your privacy and security.

My advise is to not use any file explorer at all and get used to the built-in file manager. See here about why you shouldn't use ES file explorer:

https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/16/android-app-es-file-explorer-expose-data/
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
Good to know.

Do you take a file explorer?

With the built in you can't do everything.

So what du you prefer?

Thank you for the tipps,

Thomas
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Thanks for the info, but the ES File Explorer is completely blocked in Netguard right from the start. So the danger described in the linked site might not really exist in this scenario.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The built-in file manager is sufficient for me.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I gave up on ES.Explorer when I discovered MiXplorer. Much better. But I think it too will break.

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Do you mean "Files"?

It works well and I have it blocked by NetGuard for privacy. I block all file managers in NetGuard.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I guess you mean Files by Google. Although it comes pre-installed on some devices, it is an optional app and not the same as the built-in file manager of Android.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
So how do I access the built-in file manager of Android?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
https://www.howtogeek.com/231401/how-to-use-android-6.0’s-built-in-file-manager/
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.477

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version adds error reporting to Bugsnag. Error reporting is opt-in and will help to find bugs and problems. See this FAQ for more information about error reporting and let me know if there are any questions about this.
[Android Apps and Games] wirdSchoon:
Is this change also included in the update of FairEmail 1.477?

Unfortunately it doesn't feel that way to me.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, it is, the required velocity was changed half screen / second instead of full screen / second.

I am afraid that the sensitivity will always be a compromise. And I am not sure about the future of custom swipes given the new swipe gestures in Android Q.
[Android Apps and Games] wirdSchoon:
How big can the angle error be? Maybe the problem arises if you don't swipe exactly enough horizontally?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The angle doesn't matter, although it will affect the velocity a little.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.478 1.479

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version fixes the first bug discovered with Bugsnag and makes Bugsnag sessions opt-in too.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If you choose not to opt-in for error reporting and you changed your mind, you can enable error reporting again in the advanced options, section miscellaneous. Error reports are pretty useful and will help improve FairEmail and increase stability in next releases.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Thank you. Well hidden.

Can NetGuard block its access to the outside world?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure what you want to block, but NetGuard can block each and every app.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Sorry for being unclear.

Can NetGuard block the android built-in file manager's access to the outside world?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This question is better asked in the NetGuard thread.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will have a setting to roam like at home.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.480 1.481

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version adds a new option for roam like at home, which is by default enabled. This version fixes a number of smaller bugs discovered in error reports.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Should the 'roam like at home' option be turned off for non-EU phones and users?

Will it somehow impact roaming charges in the US?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The option will have an effect only if you have a SIM card from a participating EU country.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
Marcel,

The only thing keeping me from moving from K-9 and purchasing Pro is K-9's much-loved "More from this sender" feature when long-pressing an email in the Inbox. Any interest in implementing this? or is it already there and I just missed it?

Thank you for your wonderful apps
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Long press the sender's email address to select it and in the copy/paste menu there will be 'FairEmail'. Selecting this will search for the email address the archive folder, both on the device and on the server (FairEmail might not have the message stored because it is older than to keep). In the advanced options, section miscellaneous, you can select to search in all folders on the device instead.

This feature is not limited to within FairEmail. You can search from any app in this way and not only for email addresses (also for texts in the subject and messages for example).

If you have a suggestion for a better one word title for this menu item in the copy/paste menu, please let me know. 'Search' and 'Email' are too ambiguous IMHO though.
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
That's great, I didn't know it.

But it would be great to define which folders to search. If no Archiv folder is selected FE searchs in inbox and sent.

If archiv selected then it searchs in archiv only.

Thank you,

Thomas

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Sorry, I have to correct myself.

If no Archiv folder is selected, alls folders be searched. But the scroll down to load more works not.

If archiv folder is selected, only this folder is be searched.

But the the scroll down works.

Thomas
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Actually, there are three situations:

Archive folder set for the primary account: search on device in the archive folder of the primary account, search on the server in the archive folder (scroll down will search more on the server)

No archive folder set for the primary account: search on device in all folders

'External search on device' (advanced option) enabled: always search on device in all folders

Suggestions about how to improve this or make this more clear are welcome. However, searching in more than one folder on the server is not an option because searching on the server is mostly too slow for that.
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
Ok, understand. But if archiv folder is set, the device folders should be searched. Otherwise only archiv folder messages are shown. And not Inbox for example!?

Thomas
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I think it would be confusing when all folders on the device were searched and only the archive folder on the server.
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
Ok. That could be.

What do you think about the option to choose the folders as option. Standard only one folder.

But for users with many folders it would be great. Slow but complete...

Thomas
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
'Others' seems right to me.

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I would enjoy a more stark difference between read/unread. Only in the Light theme is it obvious enough that I don't have to think about it. ?have a font style difference, too? Background color would be optimal, although, perhaps not keeping with the overriding theme of minimalism.

Also, since we're talking UI/UX, icons next to the items in the 3-dot pop-up menu 'Mark unread' et. al. would definitely be a welcome addition, imo.

Thanks again
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I agree. Only the first line with the sender's name stands out against the rest. Even the differences between the bolded subject line against the normal italics only is hardly noticeable.

Am I right that the subject line and the message preview text are light grey? Then it would suffice to make them white for unread messages.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
Had to purchase to see it in action, but it works better than K-9. Bye bye doggie
[Android Apps and Games] tbv2005:
Sorry, might be a really stupid question, but I don't get it. When I highlight the sender Adress and choose fairmail from the menu I always get a new draft email to that address but no search results.... Pretty sure i'm doing something wrong, but just not sure what....
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I'm searching, but FairEmail does not find any mails, although there are still several with this sender. In my opinion the item in the menu should be 'SEARCH IN FAIREMAIL' instead of only 'FAIREMAIL'. The menu items in front of it also consist of the TWO words 'PRIVATE SEARCH'.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
'Others' would be confusing IMHO.

The contrast between read/unread is for all themes the same, but I will see what I can do.

Menu items should not have icons and it wouldn't be very minimalistic as well.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The subject and message preview are 10 % smaller as the sender name, but do not have another color.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There might be another 'FairEmail' in the copy/paste menu.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Do you have an archive folder set? See some comments back about how it works.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I have archiv folders set in all accounts. But with the option in the settings it find the mails. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have checked the unread indication for the dark themes and IMHO the highlighted sender name stands out properly, just like as in the light theme.

The subject is made bold, but not highlighted and IMHO it would be too much to highlight it too.

Multiple selection already sets a special background color, so it is difficult / confusing to combine this with a background color for unread messages. It wouldn't be very clean / minimalistic either.

Any other idea?
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
A dot to highlight - needs to be drawing attention but not distracting
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
A small icon of a closed envelope just before the sender's name?
[Android Apps and Games] SnoopyDog:
Thank you very much for this great app :) Just "found" it today and give it a try. If I'll stay on it, then I'll buy the pro version.

Just one question on the folder settings: I didn't find a description so far for these:

E-Mails to synchronize (days)

E-Mails to keep (days)

The default setting for the first one is 7 days but as far as I understand it, I can set it to a lower value, especially if IMAP-Idle is used (?)

I am doubting what the second setting means. I hope it does not mean that mails will be deleted automatically after n days. I guess this is a setting for offline reading (?)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please see this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq39

There is an option to keep all messages always.
[Android Apps and Games] SnoopyDog:
Thank you, I've read this already but this doesn't answer the question what the setting "Keep mails for n days" means.

What will happend after n days?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The messages will be deleted locally (not on the server).
[Android Apps and Games] SnoopyDog:
Ok :) Good to know
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.482

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

How searching works was redesigned to be simpler. You can just try it, but reading this FAQ doesn't hurt.

The sender's font size will be increased by 10% for unread messages. Please let me know what you think about this.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I like it. Looks good.

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On other apps I've used when you click on help a search field appears at the top of the documentation site. I know your support opens the FAQ page, but it is long. There is a list of common questions at the top but they do not cover everything.

I use my browser's search to search for specific text but others may not. Implementing a text 'search' on the FAQ page might perhaps save you a lot of support questions. Maybe...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Unfortunately, GitHub does not support search on specific pages.

https://help.github.com/en/articles/about-searching-on-github

https://help.github.com/en/articles/searching-on-github
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
The bolder black font color (light theme) is enough for me to distinguish them from the gray colored other mails as being unread.

I don't like and need a bigger font size for that.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
That's why I switch to my browser to search.
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
The new search is great!!!

Thank you very much.

Thomas
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Amazing continous refinement. Hats off to you for this.
[Android Apps and Games] cyberwytch:
I love this app! I swear I've tried every other email client and the only other one with the privacy/security I need is K-9, which is fine except I can't get used to the UI after using too much Gmail.

I'm ready to get the pro version, and I want to donate instead of buying it on the play store, so that I can use F-Droid and so that you get the full donated amount, but I'm worried about the device count. I only have one device, but I change ROMs too often. Will it appear that I'm using more than one device if I flash a new ROM, reinstall, and try to activate again? Also, is the activation automatic like it is with play store purchases?

I couldn't find the answer to those questions anywhere else. Thanks for your time answering them, and developing this amazing app!!!
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
The new search works wonderfully. And also the other changes of the V 1.482 are IMHO very good.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Works for me.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
I have enabled delay sending message.

With setting enabled, only draft icon appears in outbox:

It could be useful to also have Trash and Force Send

As of now if you want to delete/cancel you need to click on draft and then delete draft.

Also, sometimes you want to send immediately so a force send is useful as user needs confirming to send, by first going to outbox/ selecting message / clicking send

Does delayed sending work regardless if Synchronization is enabled? (Global sync)

Or, does it wait until the next connection via Manual sync?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I noticed another little thing about the signature: When I write a mail with FairEmail, the signature is shown in italics in the draft, but it is no longer italicized in the finished mail. Perhaps it would be better if it were also in the finished mail displayed in italics just like in the draft, wouldn't it?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You will have to go via the drafts to trash or send immediately as I don't want to add actions for this presumably exceptional use case.

Messages will be sent always, even when synchronization is globally disabled. I will change the now incorrect hint text in the advanced options.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, indeed.
[Android Apps and Games] willy_666:
One question to the "roam like at home" function. Does FairEmail just treat EEA countries like the "not roaming configuration" or does it cross check if the sim card country is really part of EEA? Basicaly: do I have to disable this function, if my country is not part of the roaming contracts?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail will check if the country code of the SIM card and the country code of the network are in the EU roam-like-at-home countries and assumes no roaming if the country codes are equal and the roam-like-at-home option is enabled.

So, you don't have to disable this option if you don't have an EU SIM or are not connected to an EU network.

Edit: added to the FAQ with some more info:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq105
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
Okay.

In drafts:

I found the Send At in menu,

Could there also be a button for Send now/immediately ?

Or a separate item in menu for "Send at" and "Send now"
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The send action at the bottom will send immediately (unless you have set the advanced option to delay sending).
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
Is the font size set for compact view?

Not sure about latest changes for new/unread messages.

Especially when there are a lot of new messages, they pop up too much.
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
This is exactly what a few of us requested just before most recent (1.482) version and I, for one, like it a lot.
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
What do you think about a new filter?

Stared and unread messages.

And this for unified inbox.

So I have only the important messages in one view.

About several accounts and folders...

Thank you,

Thomas
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
Yes.

I am testing the delay send feature.

But I was hoping for an easier way to send immediately, for certain messages.

I have it currently set to '5 minutes'.

Testing delayed send I could not find an option to send immediately.

"Send at" will add the 5 minutes delay automatically, so you need to select time manually to send earlier.

Having a button or a separate menu item gives user quick way to send now, in specific cases you do not want to delay the predetermined amount of time:

Or,

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I understand.

But changing the text size 10% and changing colour is a little too much for people, like me, who did not have an issue with it in the first place.

I just wondered if there could be a balance.

I do not seem to be the only one:
[Android Apps and Games] TiTiB:
My appreciative comment was about the font-size change. On my tablet with a dark theme (can't stand plain white—makes me squint) it was not easy enough to tell the difference between read/unread. I had to actually pay attention, and it should be so obvious that it doesn't require any scrutiny, at all.

I agree that a color modification is too much, and am very pleased with things the way they are.
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
Probably +10% only for Tablets or dark mode settings?

Thomas

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Hello Marcel,

could you show the full screen button in not original message/formated message?

If you tap this show original with pictures?

Now I have top tap three times to see the message zoomable...

Another better idea?

Thank you very much,

Thomas
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

Dots color to indicate position of mail seems broken. It shows brown for all conversations.

I don't use this function but thought of letting you know
[Android Apps and Games] ths180:
Works for me.

For first and last message in list orange, otherwise blue.

Thomas