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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just release

beta

version 1.311

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases
[Android Apps and Games] styr:
Hello there, is there a possibility to add an option to have the from, to, cc stuff part collapsed by default?
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
On latest version,

Message view now has a bar and circle at bottom of the screen always visible:

It is always the same, does not change.

What is the point of it?

I can not seem to see what it does or supposed to do.

I have action bar disabled so it is unrelated to that.

Also,

I got a reply from a mail sent from fairemail,

But it is not grouped to sent message:

Although, my email is quoted in mail.

So,

Click quote button to see email I sent:

Image appears as thumbnail:

Click on image button:

And okay,

Image placeholder disappears, but no image:

But I am unable to show inline messages in message view, i have show inline attachments checked,

and then clicked okay on show images

Image only appears inline if i click

show original.

I believe that was not the case in previous versions

Same thing happens in sent folder:

I sent an email with inline image, but it will not show unless i click show original

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It is slightly worse with action bar as it takes up more space with it:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is already an option for that.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This experimental new feature indicates the position of the message in the message list to give you an idea where you are when navigating left or right. If most of you think it should go, I will remove it. This was indirectly asked for here.

I have seen this happen myself too a few times and each time I looked into it, it was being caused by the sending app not including the messages references. This cannot really be fixed by FairEmail. I am aware that some providers, notably Gmail, group messages by date/subject to workaround this, but doing this in FairEmail would result in more complicated queries, possibly resulting in more lags and extra battery usage.

Please send me the raw message file for inspection: show headers, download raw message, save raw message, report issue.
[Android Apps and Games] styr:
Can you please tell me the name of the option? I'm having a hard time finding it.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
"Show address details by default" is what you want to disable.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
I see.

But the whole point of gestures is to declutter screen, for example replace previous and next buttons with gestures. Having a visual for gestures in a way takes away the point of gestures.

I can see where user suggestion of 1/200 can be handy when swiping, but please make the visual optional like the action bar, or maybe only with action bar?

As for some users, clean space is more important for message view without distractions of buttons and indicators

Oh.

Is this because outlook changes headers on sent, which forces the use of references to match draft with sent?

Weird that references are not a part of headers which gets automatically included on reply.

Not sure why it only appears when show original is selected.

The image appears here:

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<p dir=3D"ltr">All the text.<br>
more text,<br>
text is here</p>
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</div>

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Comes to mind,

Can it be that simple?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will show the position indicator only when the action bar is shown.

The references should always be included when replying, this is the whole point of the references, but some providers just don't do this, making it hard/impossible for apps like FairEmail to correlate things.

Please send me the EML file, so I can debug it.

Edit: never mind, I have already found the problem.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

stable

version 1.312

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Hi. I tried playing around with settings of Titanium Backup to ensure it gets backed up but no use.

Only option left for me is to reduce the size of downloads. The total size of 3 mail accounts is about 3 GB. In several of these accounts important folders have data for 3 or more years downloaded with attachments ( I rarely use a PC that's why everything is on cell).

Option of reducing keep messages for ever- i don't think reducing that is going to help since they are already downloaded and only won't be shown.

Can you please suggest what is the best way I can reduce the size outside of setting it up again?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You'll need to reduce the time messages are kept. This will result in deleting the messages being deleted from the database. There is a twice daily job that deletes message files, including attachments and cached image files. You can run this job manually by long pressing 'Privacy'. Nothing will visually happen, but the storage space will be cleaned up. You can see in the Android app settings how much space FairEmail is using before and after cleaning up.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks man. Fantastic! Will do that

:good:

Edit : [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] Thanks again, reduced to 1.5 GB but yet TiBu wouldn't Backup but 3C Toolbox could. On the past TiBu backed up even 2.5GB so the problem is with TiBu. Glad that backup was possible. I hate spending time on this. You are very helpful:good:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.313

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version shows original messages within conversations (inline), which made it possible to add an option to show original messages by default for known contacts.

Feedback, thanks, donations and purchases are appreciated.
[Android Apps and Games] tbv2005:
Short question: is it intended behavior that if "show address details by default" is disabled (conversation threading disabled as well if that matters) and you swipe to a unread message it scrolls automatically down to the message and you don't see the 2 lines for sender and subject, whereas when you swipe to a read message there is no automatic scroll and you directly see the sender and subject. Not sure if same behavior with action bar (i just disabled the detailed sender). I find it a bit weird as specially for unread messages the subject would be interesting...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I don't see how the subject (shown in the message header), not showing address details and scrolling are related, so can you please explain this in more detail?
[Android Apps and Games] tbv2005:
Mh, maybe I need to take a video. But first I try to explain a bit better. So first after an additonal test it only seem to happen in the unified inbox. Up to now I always had the sender details on and dind't notice anything like that. It's "happening"since I turned sender details off.

So.... If I'm reading an email and then swipe to the next email to the left there seems to be a different behavior (in the unified inbox) if that email you swipe to (so the next one) has already been read or is unread.

If it's unread: swipe happens normally and you see the sender, subject, bar and show original button. However if that next email is unread you see the swipe animation and directly maybe 0.1 sec later a automatic scroll down to the message, so sender, subject, bar and show original button is hidden and you need to manually scroll up again to see them. Hope that explains it bit better....
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The unified inbox is not handled differently than any other folder.

Single unread messages are automatically expanded (there is a setting to disabled this), but there is no automatic scroll.

So, I still don't understand what is happening :(
[Android Apps and Games] tbv2005:
Ok, thanks :svetius: I will made some additional tests and come back. Maybe it has to do if it's a mesaage in a conversation or single message and read / unread was just coincidence.... (just a guess)....
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.314 1.315 1.316

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
For inline attachments,

It is working now, but one comment:

If image overflows screen width in portrait mode, there is no scroll,

If you rotate to landscape image fits fine, though,

Other than rotating device, to see image user must click show inline attachment, then click view button to open image using system app chooser, i.e. gallery

Scrolling might cause issues with swipe mechanism.

Zooming (text size) did not help.

Maybe having image fit-to-width of screen, somehow?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Images should be scaled to screen width minus margins. I will check tomorrow if it still works okay.
[Android Apps and Games] tbv2005:
Ok, did some additional tests. It has something todo with auto expand. When you turn off auto expand and you just see the 2 lines of sender and subject, then manually expand you also have this scrolling (but then you already have seen the subject/sender). Weird is it doesn't happen on all emails. To be sure I also tested with the conversation bar buttons (to be sure has nothing to do with swiping), but getting the same. I just send a short video via the Report Issue button to show what I mean. It does not hapoen when you have "show address details by default" turned on. If it's intended (or my device is just strange) no worries, I can live with it :D. Thanks for checking in advanced!
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

Problem in creating new folders in Gmail on latest version. Sent you logs

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] vladsol:
Marcel,

If there is a folder "All messages" I see every message in conversation, let say in INBOX, doubled with "grey" one from "All messages" folder.

Is it normal behavior?

And if I remove whole conversation - the Trash folder have two the same removed messages.

Update: FairEmail shows only one message in the Trash folder, but if you use another MUA you can see two the same ones.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have an idea about what is causing this and will try to fix it.

Thanks for reporting.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I will see what I can find in the log files.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail shows what a provider, likely Gmail in this case, tells FairEmail what messages are in a folder.

Gmail lists each and every message, except trashed messages, in the all messages (archive) folder.

FairEmail shows duplicate message dimmed, so you can easily see what is what.

tl;dr; it is not FairEmail that is doing this

Edit: I have just added this FAQ: Why do I see duplicate messages?
[Android Apps and Games] vladsol:
Definitely FairEmail caused the "double-trash" issue.

Let say: When conversation with only one message is opened, you can see another dimmed one - it's ok - your explanation is clear enough.

If you remove the

message

it causes

no duplicates

in the Trash folder

But if you remove

whole conversation

it causes

double message

in the Trash

And yes - FairEmail shows only one of them (in Trash), but on server they are two.

PS: I don't use Gmail - it is my own server and I consider the virtual folder with All-but-trash messages is handy one (especially when there was a "Search by sender" button in FairEmail ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Which folders are the messages before deletion in?

Can I get a temporary email account on your server to test this?
[Android Apps and Games] vladsol:
Any folder, but 'All'

I've sent you credentials by email (hope I found right gnupg key...)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail does what it should do when trashing a messages: moving it to the trash folder. If this causes duplicate messages, this isn't caused by FairEmail.

I have tested with your private server and I can't reproduce the issue you are describing.

When I tried to move a conversation to trash, which means moving the inbox and duplicate archived message to trash, it fails with the mesage:

N19 NO [EXPUNGEISSUED] Some of the requested messages no longer exist

This is not something I can fix or workaround and more a problem of your server with handling a message visible in multiple folders.

Which server software are you using?
[Android Apps and Games] vladsol:
I use dovecot.

And as you explain, fairemail really try to delete both messages: real one and its "reflection" in the "virtual.All" folder. May be, sometimes it does it with success, but sometimes server is more fast with removing "virtual" message.

Anyway, "dovecot deduplicate" command works quite well, so I can live with it.

Thank you for explanation.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a difference in deleting a single message using the message action bar or deleting a conversation using the bottom action bar. The first will delete one message and the latter all messages in the conversation, including the one in the archive folder.
[Android Apps and Games] fmbo:
Synchrolization

Hi,

Since last night, I can't get any synchronization for my accounts. (still possible with K9 mail)

I haven't changed anything in my configuration and FairEmail is updated to the last version available in Playstore.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Fmbo
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Are there any error messages visible in the account setup or folder list?
[Android Apps and Games] fmbo:
No message except when I try to refresh:

"La synchronisation sera effectuée à la prochaine connexion d'un compte"
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That indicates there is no account connection.

You should be able to see the account state in the account setup.

Post a screenshot when in doubt.
[Android Apps and Games] fmbo:
I can't do this right now; I'll try later
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

stable

version 1.317

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases
[Android Apps and Games] fmbo:
I'm back;

here is a picture of what you've asked

[IMG="image"]https://ncloud.zaclys.com/index.php/f/75348535[/IMG]

Fmbo
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Image/link doesn't work ...
[Android Apps and Games] fmbo:
Another try
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The image shows none of your accounts are connected and don't show any errors.

You are not connected to a Wi-Fi connection, so my best guess is that you disabled the option 'Use metered connections'.

If this is not the problem, send me the debug info by long pressing 'Support'.
[Android Apps and Games] fmbo:
Where can I find the option Use metered connections?

I've got the same problem both on wifi and 4G.

Is it the "Utliliser les connnexions limitées?"
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Use metered connections is an advanced option, accessible from the setup screen.

Send me the debug info and I will check what is going on.
[Android Apps and Games] chgrbt:
Have you ever wondered if it could be a comment from another developer who just put up a 1 star and a comment to make it look legit?

I can't imagine how much simpler your app could be!
[Android Apps and Games] Namnodorel:
Well, you gotta ask simple for who? I understand everything that is going on. But the average user has likely never heard of IMAP and SMTP, and thus could have no idea what to do with all those fields you can fill in.

If you want to make the setup/inteoduction easier for such users, you likely need to _really_ hold their hand. I'm thinking of the nowadays popular "onboarding", or an introduction at the first start of the app. Most Google apps have it, and many others in the Play Store as well.

That includes usually: Going through every important setting with the user one by one. Fullscreen, big font. No more than one or two instructional sentences per page.

For FairMail, the first page could be something along the lines of "Welcome to FairMail! The E-Mail client that keeps things simple and respects your privacy. Let's started!"

then for account selection "First, choose your E-Mail provider from the list below". With a list (not dropdown!) of supported providers. Preferably big buttons, and/or provider icons next to their names so users can recognize theirs faster. And at the bottom of the list "My provider is not on this list."

Depending on what the user selected, the majority of users will then have to do nothing but enter their mail and passwords and don't need to think about mail protocol stuff at all - if you select a preset provider, the fields port, server etc. are not prefilled but aren't even there so no user gets confused about whether or not they are expected to do something.

For identities, on the next screen there could be a prominent option "use the same provider as before", which then tries to setup the identity with the earlier provided credentials. Finally, one or two more pages for theme and contact permission, and even the least technical user should have managed to set everything up.

The key concept of the whole thing is to make the user always just think about one thing at a time. Right now, the first thing you see are five (!) things to configure, which already looks more complex than gmail/googles two-field-sign in. When you click on a button, you gotta figure out that you are now expected to add an account (having multiple accounts and dealing with account lists likely isn't even relevant for some users who just want to use one account) by clicking the FAB. And after that, you are again bombarded with fields to fill in. Things a lot of users don't need to worry about like primary checkbox, sync, store sent messages and sync interval are currently not hidden behind an "Advanced" option but all shown at once.

All of the new things I mentioned are surely not more simple programmatically - but they are from an UX perspective. Because there, simple means to have as little amount of stuff on the screen the user has to pay attention to as possible.
[Android Apps and Games] 73sydney:
I got nothing against anyone making a dollar, as I stated I am just very much over apps starting out as free and then when you've sunk time into not only using them, but providing logs, feedback and suggestions, and encouragement, out comes the version with in app fricking purchases with its hand out.

All I'm saying is I'd like to see right up front from devs if they have plans to charge for their apps from the get go, the opportunity is then left to each individual if they then want to install the app and go down that road.

I respect your answer, and the reasoning behind it, cheers.
[Android Apps and Games] TheMadRuffian:
So far, this is the simplest yet intuitive mail client I have ever used on android. I shall keep using it as long as it stays the same. Ergo, the comment doesn't make any sense.
[Android Apps and Games] eldervamp17:
Love this new app :). Setup is basic and simple. Its fast and retrieves all my emails immediately. Was using K-9 for a long while. I felt it had too much configuration options to do and I always had sync problems with it. One question I do have though and forgive me if it was already mentioned and I missed a thread but in the Outbox folder, how do you delete messages in there? I have my Sent messages in the Sent Folder and they are also in the Outbox folder as well. The emails did go through to the recipients email. Reason for me wanting to delete is because I did a typo on a emails address while trying to send and now the email is stuck inside the Outbox folder with a 1 notification that I can't get rid off. I just ended up uninstalling and reinstalling the app and it fixed it, just wondering if there was a better way to solve that. :)
[Android Apps and Games] jeffhart4890:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] sir, is there any way to make FairEmail not be in continuous sync & not show the notification ? I mean so that it only syncs for new mails when I open the app, & other times the app goes to deep sleep. I am asking this because I am a student & I have to read a lot of material (using browser, dictionaries, pdf & ebook reader etc.) on my phone, & having such an option to put the mail to deep sleep on demand would be helpful to keep the mind focused, because I get a lot of continuous mails in a day. Sorry for this weird request.

Otherwise your app is superb. Clean interface, lightweight (please keep it that way always). I sincerely wish & believe your app will be the best mail app. Thank you for your hardwork.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Can you please put this in an issue, so it can easily be found back when the moment is there to work on this?

As a side note: people won't get smarter by presenting the world simpler than it is.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Deleting messages from the outbox is currently not possible, but is on my to do list.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Disabling continuous sync and not showing notifications are two different things. Especially in areas with bad coverage it is important to synchronize email whenever possible. Android should allow you to configure notifications, but I am not sure if this is possible on Android 6 Marshmallow. Which Android version are you using?

Edit: similar issue: https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/issues/16
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Hi,

Little typo in 0.22, the provider's name you added is SFR.fr, not sfs.fr

Best regards

Christophe

Envoyé de mon SM-A520F en utilisant Tapatalk
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This will be fixed in the next version, thanks!

Edit: can you give me a link with setup instruction for this provider?

Never mind: my French is good enough to understand this is it: https://assistance.sfr.fr/service-et-accessoire/sfr-mail/serveurs-messagerie-sfr.html