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[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
Interesting perspective!

My mind immediately went to uBlock Origin with its varying levels of complexity for the user to handle. Easy mode by default, that even the most basic user doesn't need to think about. Then medium mode, where the user has to take a more proactive role, but gives superior protection, and so on.

What if on the first run you were to let the user choose between regular email and privacy oriented email? With the disclaimer that the discerning user would have to take a more involved approach and understand what they're getting into with the privacy by default approach.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I understand the suggestions, but the goal of the project is something else: helping people protect their privacy better. Therefore, it might already be a step too far that you can disable confirming links, etc.

Moreover, I don't think this will solve unfair and unreasonable reviews.
[Android Apps and Games] heisert:
We are humans. And not every one is like you or me.

+90% are stupid or other. I cant believe it but i see it every every Day....

But there are a little less "normal" humans.

Edit: ive forget: I can't take one star rating seriously. Almost no app actually deserves one star. There are also stars between one and five
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION], you added a feature to search in accounts lately and it was truly a nice addition. From my perspective, the search feature could still be improved a little bit. If possible, I would like to be able to search in the unified folders, mostly the sent and archive ones.

Use case : I know I sent a message to someone about subject X, but I don't remember which account I used. Subject X is frequent so searching everywhere turns out a lot of messages. If I could search in sent only, it would make it much easier to find the message I'm looking for. Of course I still end up finding it, but that would be more convenient.

Let me know what you think.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I think that you can't have everything.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.974

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds searching in the message text, which is a frequently requested feature.

One of the improvements is that periodically checking for new messages will be enabled automatically on the first "Still here" (see this FAQ).

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I am sorry to add to your work but i must still be doing something wrong and I don't know what it is.

I'm on FairEmail version 1.972 and I'm still having the text display size we discussed previously where the displayed text on some emails is just too tiny. It only happens on a few emails so I am guessing it is not a general setting. The majority of messages are displayed at a decent size. I don't really want to use the 'show original message' toggle on these messages.

I believe the docs said the text display problem was fixed in the latest version but it is still a problem for me so I am doing something wrong or misunderstanding your previous recommendations about displaying 'reformatted' text.

I will send you the raw message privately.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Forgot the screenshot.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
A better screenshot showing the difference in text size between the address are and message area.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The sent message looks fine to me.

Maybe you want to disable displaying (three) different text sizes in the display options?
[Android Apps and Games] Ceresek:
Folder search in move to folder

Thank you for the folder search !

I noticed the folder search feature originated in a discussion about sorting incoming messages to (many) folders. I also do that, and while having folder search helps quite a lot, I was thinking whether this task may be made even easier. One possibility would be (optionally ?) sorting the folder list to move to in "most recently used" order, that way the chance of having the right folder appear among those first displayed could be quite high (I realize the tree view might not permit this).

One very good tool for sorting incoming messages, unfortunately from the desktop domain, is the Nostalgy plugin for Thunderbird. It maintains a database associating (I think) sender addresses with specific "move to" folders, updated every time a mail is moved to a folder. For a given message, it then offers those folders where messages from that sender were moved to most often, and this seems to work surprisingly well.

Does any of these features sound like something that would make sense ? As it is, sorting incoming messages is still relatively cumbersome.

Petr
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This sounds nice, but it will also complicate the source code, which will eventually make maintaining and supporting FairEmail difficult.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
In case anyone else has the same display problem I described, Marcel figured out why _some_ message text displayed in tiny font on my phone.

There is a privacy setting in FairEmail to 'display hidden text'. I had it set to on (my paranoia) and the tiny displayed text I was seeing was the 'hidden text' sent in the message. Turning off the setting to display hidden text solved my problem. The rest of the message was in normal font.

I hope this helps someone else.

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You mean you find maintaining and supporting FairEmail is now 'easy'? :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail is in no way simple to maintain and support, but what I am afraid of is the dark feature creep.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I know. Just making a joke.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.975

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This is a release candidate for the next Play store release.

Please report any issue you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] Andriy U.:
Dear Marcel,

after upgrade to the version 1.974, the automatic sync of my beloved Mail.de (Dovecot) was automatically switched off and the periodic checking was activated. I was/am absolutely happy with a push mode of Mail.de and do not have any problem with the battery usage. Letting me no option to keep automatic syncing is not an improvement. Please, revert the changes made in latest version, or, if possible, add the option to keep the automatic sync with Dovecot IMAP servers for the users like me. Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Check out version 1.975 ...
[Android Apps and Games] zarere:
Something is broken in this version, even after activating always sync in settings after a few minutes the mail goes to manual sync again.Tried 3 times already always the same result :(
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Did you disable auto optimize in the miscellaneous settings?
[Android Apps and Games] Andriy U.:
What I have to do to keep automatic syncing with Dovecot server? Please, guide me. I have updated to 1.975 and in the Settings - Receive - When:Every 30 minutes - I have selected "Always synchronize these accounts": Mail.de. But, after 2 minutes the connection to server was automatically closed and in the settings the "Always synchronize" Mail.de was off again.
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
Thank you so much for the "Search in text" feature!

It works flawless in the reformatted mode but not if your viewing the original message ...

In both 1.974 & 1.975 releases.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The best you can do, is fix the configuration of the server, see here. The second best you can do is disable auto optimize in the miscellaneous settings.
[Android Apps and Games] Andriy U.:
Disable auto optimize in the miscellaneous settings has solved the issue. Great! Thank you very much!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=6749263]Licaon_Kter[/MENTION]

When will FairEmail finally be updated on F-Droid?

Can it be made possible that a developer selects which versions to build and which not?

The latest version on F-Droid, version 1.953 of 12 days ago, will crash and this bug was fixed in version 1.954. Note that the current version is 1.975.

My inbox has been filling up with inquiries for quite some time now, wasting valuable time. To save time I am considering to redirect people complaining to https://forum.f-droid.org/ I am pretty sure you are not going to like this ...

So, please, when will the F-Droid version of FairEmail be updated? Can this be fast tracked?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
What exactly is changed how and where with 'Optimize settings automatically'?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
When an email server says 'Still here' within 3 minutes, FairEmail will automatically switch to periodically checking for new messages each 15 minutes, making an exception for all the other accounts. You can prevent this by disabling 'Automatically optimize settings' in the miscellaneous settings.

This was added because I am tired of complaints about battery usage. The alternative is to default to periodical sync instead of always sync.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Today there were yet again several unfair and/or unreasonable 1 star ratings, for example for deleting all contacts (FairEmail has no permissions to write contact data), blocking the email account (I am pretty sure this was not caused by FairEmail), for continuously crashing (the Play store developer console says that 0.09% of the daily sessions results in a crash and looking into the crash reports, virtually all crashes find there cause outside of FairEmail). There were almost no positive ratings, so this was not good for the average rating and also not for my motivation either.

I fear that [MENTION=4423722]Heiser[/MENTION] is right ...
[Android Apps and Games] Licaon_Kter:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

> When will FairEmail finally be updated on F-Droid?

Latest build can be seen here always: https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/eu.faircode.email/lastbuild but that cycle has not been published yet albeit it ended Feb 15 (https://f-droid.org/wiki/index.php?...m=&hidebots=0&hideanons=1&hideliu=1&limit=500)

> Can it be made possible that a developer selects which versions to build and which not?

That's not the issue, we build the latest at that cycle start time. We are well past that moment now.

> The latest version on F-Droid, version 1.953 of 12 days ago, will crash and this bug was fixed in version 1.954

I have that version but never saw any crashes, that's unfortunate.

> My inbox has been filling up with inquiries for quite some time now, wasting valuable time. To save time I am considering to redirect people complaining to https://forum.f-droid.org/ I am pretty sure you are not going to like this ...

I find that fair, though read below

> So, please, when will the F-Droid version of FairEmail be updated? Can this be fast tracked?

There is no ETA, a network problem slowed down the last 3-4 cycles (eg. they even hit the hard time limit of 36h, leaving many apps not build) and that should have been fixed this week. Yet, there's no news and the last cycle is not published for 7 days already.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I have created 3 accounts, so far FE has indicated in the notifications that 3 accounts are monitored. Now FE shows that only 1 account is monitored, although according to the settings at least two of the three accounts (as an exception) are selected under 'always synchronize'. Also, a mail count is now displayed in the widget even though there are no mails in the notifications (it is set to always be identical).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please check the log (via the navigation menu) about why the 2 accounts are not connected.

There is a notification setting to let the number in the widget match the number of notifications.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I can't see any reason for this in the log... what's the best way to email it to you? As written, the setting has always been unchanged so that the numbers in the widget and in the notifications should match.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can send me the debug info for the number of connected accounts, but there is no useful logging for the widget.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Searching in the original message is not possible and will be disabled in the next release.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Oh, I'm sorry, there were no more mails in the notifications because of the automatic 'Do Not Disturb' mode. As soon as I turned it off, the two numbers in the widget and in the notifications matched again. Sorry for the unnecessary trouble.

Can you please tell me again how to send you the debug info with the log?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Long press 'Support' in the navigation menu.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Thanks, I forgot it .... Mail is on the way.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The cause is this:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=81835213&postcount=12569
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
But then why is there a check mark in the receive settings for synchronizing two accounts forever?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Because only some of the email servers say "Still here".
[Android Apps and Games] zarere:
Doing that fixed the issue, thanks for the fast response again.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
When I was recently traveling abroad with a limited simcard I turned off the option for FairEmail to automatically check for new mail on my several mail accounts and I had to manually swipe down to check for new messages.

Now I'm back home and want to revert to where FairEmail periodically checks for new mail automatically. But - I forgot where that setting is. Could someone please remind me?

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] Shakidor:
Perhaps press "Manage" in "Setup accounts", then go into each account concerned and deselect "synchronize manually" (or words to that effect), in the "advanced" section.
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
Good to know ...

Thanks for all your hard work on this fantastic piece of software!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Didn't you just disable receiving in the receive settings?
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
That was it. I just couldn't remember what I had changed.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
as frustrating as things must get for you in taking care of the many many aspects of an app of this top-shelf quality (not to mention the users) [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] , we appreciate you deciding to continue on (for now).:good:
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Next time you might want to off the "Use metered connections" settings in the Connection tab. Then your mail will be automatically checked again when you're using the hotel wifi, for example.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.977

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds a signature editor, which is a feature that was frequently asked for. The editor allows you to insert images as well, which will be sent as inline images. Please try to create a nice signature via the identity settings and let me know if everything works as expected.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
Almost ready for 2.000 release.

Maybe it is time for a new distraction.

A new challenge.

I suggest either a browser or a file browser.

Either will keep you busy for a while.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not going to start any new project anymore. Example about why not:

My answer:

Response:

So, given how "grateful" people are, why would I put any effort into a new project?

There were today only 1 star ratings.

People are going to get what they deserve: free software that collects personal data for advertising purposes or worse.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
I am speechless! And I thought everyone had half a brain - I guess not! [MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] I would request you once again to ignore! To develop or not to develop is your decision but please don't let morons upset you.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
How can I ignore this?

In the meantime there was another unfair/unreasonable 1 star rating.

If people want to be superficial/uninformed/unforgiving/plain stupid, that's fine, but without me.
[Android Apps and Games] tillithz:
Whooa, people can just not use it if they have a problem. I liked it enough to pay for it and would continue too. There's still grateful users or here.

Wanted to see if a feature could be added. Different notification sounds for each account.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If only people contacted me if they have a problem, but unfortunately, they often just rate 1 star and give me no chance at all, not even when I respond to the review, which is frustrating to say the least.

Please see here about how you can set notification sounds for accounts:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq145
[Android Apps and Games] zarere:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] I'm currently using netguard and fairemail in the past I've used xprivacy and xprivacylua basically each time I see an app made from you I know that is the best app for its purpose, so don't pay attention to the stupid reviews that some people have.I've never seen such great developer like you. Keep up with your GREAT work.Once again THANK YOU.
[Android Apps and Games] tillithz:
I tried searching and found the link. Thank you

Screw these people, everyone knows that when you respond the way you do to anything negative, that's what counts. Not the issue itself. Many just look for the bad reviews but when your response is seen it shows your dedication.

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Another request, any way to make the reply button in the lower right be reply all? Instead of going to the navigation bar?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Try long pressing the reply button and take a look here:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq60
[Android Apps and Games] tillithz:
Ok I get it now why you'd be frustrated with the negativity and reviews. Fairmail is too damn perfect and not a complaint can be had! What will I ever do if I can't complain about something?

Maybe the knuckleheads just need something to complain about and won't ever be happy.
[Android Apps and Games] Danmann:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION]

Focus more on posts like this. I've been the same user as him since xprivacy.

I've never used Netguard because I use afwall and other vpn connections instead, but I'm pretty sure it's also a great application.

Is it worth the money in the playstore? Do you need this? Otherwise you could get rid of the playstore. In any case, it's not worth pushing yourself down.

I personally try to avoid star ranking platforms (I even hate the thumbs up here ;)), even for my business. Less advertising, less money, but also less stress.

Especially for a nerd app like fairemail. I like to have many settings, but probably 99% can't handle them. They are just overwhelmed and don't even appreciate it. They wouldn't do without the comfort offered by Google and Co. anyway.

Anyway, I think you know all this. I hope you can focus more on the good things.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am planning to add a text like this:

Are there any suggestions for improvements?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
In addition perhaps, if possible, "This can be checked in the following way..."
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Does the image need to be of some format? I added a jpg pic and it doesn't show up-only an icon of pic shows, even in web mail

Sent you a mail with that signature too

Kindly advise
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
I think this is good advice.

I still cannot believe after all these years developing for android that you focus a lot on ratings and playstore.

I thought it started out as a challenge or new adventure.

Most of the people who interact with you thoughtfully, are grateful. Bought your app. Donated.

So, why are you worried about the idiots who do not want to think. The people who sheep through life with whatever is fed to them.

If you trully are in it for the fame and fortune, and want to be a programming rockstar maybe you are focusing on the wrong category of apps.

Games are where people seem to spend money on, candy crushes pokemonnies all those shooter games, seem to be where money is being made.

But even these apps you will have the hordes of ungrateful users that do not understand that anything manmade has bugs, and lots of bugs

But at least you can make money, by have children buying in-apps purchases without parents knowing... or parents buying latest new masks/dresses for their simulated pet game

In all aspects of life there will be millions of people loving and hating the same thing, be it music, apps, sports, etc.

Ratings make it even worse. If it keeps bothering you that much then probably the advice above is worth thinking about.

Using github as the sole release point, and garnering attention from other sources; i.e. xda, reddit, twitter, where else ....
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The message I received has a nice picture.

Note that most email client by default do not show images.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Ahh. Thanks. But how come I don't see it in sent mail?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a good reason for that and I will see if I can improve this in the next release.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Maybe something on lines of showing actual device usage and that FairEmail will usually be less than..
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released version 1.978

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

[MENTION=6285129]beeshyams[/MENTION] this version will show signature images in newly sent messages and showcases the proposed battery usage message.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
[MENTION=6749263]Licaon_Kter[/MENTION] I guess it won't take much time anymore until everybody who has installed the F-Droid version of FairEmail has switched to the GitHub release. If it is not possible to solve a serious problem like this within a reasonable time, I wonder what the future of F-Droid will be ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I like to here about the new signature editor. Is it ready for release in the Play store?
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
I am always amazed at the speed of your response!:good:

A suggestion - instead of saying "Info" please make it something like "more details on battery usage" or "important info on battery", since battery usage can be easily misunderstood

You may like to have a look at link below (Adguard) and incorporate some aspects in FAQ as well, if you wish (though a separate FairEmail usage like in this case may be an over kill)

https://kb.adguard.com/en/android/solving-problems/battery

Thanks, all fine with the images for me
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I can understand how you feel faced with this crap (excuse my French). It is very sad and disheartening.

But remember there are also many others who appreciate your expertise and support.
[Android Apps and Games] niix:
Hi,

I would like to ask if there is a way to do some advanced searching through the emails. Locally and server side.

For example search by a specified sender plus some other search parameters.

Of course with pro features activated.

Thanks for answering
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please see this FAQ about searching:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq13

In short: searching is by default done in the senders, recipients, subjects, keywords and message texts.

If you mean using search operators like and, or, not, near, etc, this is not really suitable for mobile devices, which is why the search has been kept simple.