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[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please change the keep alive interval back.

What you want is not possible. You can mix push messages and periodically checking for messages with one interval only. Different intervals for different accounts are not (yet?) possible.

You could do this with an automation app though, please see this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq78
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You'll have to choose between normal and compact mode.
[Android Apps and Games] ghoppa:
Ouch, too bad! I thought there would have been an option to hide it in the appearance settings.

No worries, thank you anyway!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is not that simple because there can and will be other things on the third line too.
[Android Apps and Games] ghoppa:
Ah interesting, like what?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Whether the message was replied to, forwarded, classified, is snoozed, has attachments, the number of messages in the conversation thread, etc.
[Android Apps and Games] ghoppa:
Nice! I still think that being able to hide it would give a more polished aspect to the mail list view, but it's not such a big deal and if it's useful for other purposes I'm fine with it.

Thank you for everything Marcel!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a configurable padding on my to do list, but it won't be high priority.
[Android Apps and Games] Tutache2:
ah ok I see, thanks for the very fast answer. Probably gonna find a compromise with a 8 hr sync for those 3 accounts.
[Android Apps and Games] ghoppa:
Nice, I will wait for that with hope, if it won't come, I won't die ;)

Thank you so much Marcel!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1767 is available on GitHub now.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
I am having issues renaming Spam, folder to match server.

App insists on keeping Bulk mail folder, even after being deleted.

And, I get errors:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please try 'force sync' in the three-dots menu of the start screen to sync the folder list.

If you want to select another spam folder, you can do this in the account settings.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
Force sync, removes the Spam folder that I renamed.

I renamed the Fairemail Bulk mail user folder to Spam.

App recreated a new Bulk mail folder, with Spam folder creating errors.

Force sync removes Spam folder.

What I was trying to do was have Spam folder in device, just in case to check server Spam folder.

However app is not allowing this. Instead it insists on Bulk mail.

So, when or if a spam mail is received user will not see it. Since yahoo server has Spam and app uses Bulk, which does not exist in server only in app.

How to handle this case, just in case server mistreats a mail as spam
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
App might already handle this:

Selecting Bulk mail as Spam.

Naming scheme is confusing.

As all other folders has no naming issues.

Inbox - inbox

Drafts - drafts

Spam - bulk mail

I just want to make sure app is checking the correct folder, and not the nonexistent Bulk mail folder

@M66B
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is no FairEmail bulk folder. There are only folders as they are on the email server.

Apparently, Yahoo didn't allow renaming of this folder.

So, please select the right folder as spam folder in the account settings instead (via Manual setup and account options in the main setup screen).

Long ago, Yahoo was one of my first email providers. However, these days, Yahoo isn't great anymore to put it nicely. Yahoo is one of the very few email providers not supporting IMAP IDLE (push messages) for example.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The name is as Yahoo has chosen it to be.

@Ines* can you please tell how your Yahoo spam folder is called?
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
My Yahoo spam folder is called Bulk Mail.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will support a Material You light/dark/black theme (Android 12):
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Beautiful! Just waiting for Samsung to release A12
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The opinions about Google's color choices vary considerably.

I was a bit sceptical too, but actually there are a few nice themes IMHO.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If your device has Android 12, you might want to give version 1.1767b a try:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Grrrr!! Samsung get on with it. Does anything besides Pixel have A12 as of now?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a beta Android 12 version for some Samsung devices, but FairEmail won't work properly with this beta due to a bug in Android.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Works fine! 🥳
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
Hi Marcel, I have a small question please.

Gmail is my email provider and in FairEmail I have the Spam folder set to 'Notify on New Messages'.

For an email that was automatically sent to Spam by Gmail's servers the 'Heads Up' Notification is displayed, but then the Notification disappears and is not kept in the Android Notification Shade (causing me to miss the notification unless I happen to be looking at my phone when the spam arrives).

I don't have the same problem with Notifications for other folders, they all work correctly and stay in the Notification Shade.

Do I have a setting configured incorrectly, or is it another problem?

THANKS :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Are spam messages maybe being marked read, for example with a rule?

In any case, new message notifications work the same for all folders.
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
No, I don't have any rules in FairEmail, and the message is unread in the Spam folder.

I agree, it's odd. I guess I'll try to do some more testing.
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
From some brief tests it seems that this problem only occurs with an email that was automatically sent to Spam by Gmail's servers.

If I manually mark an email as Spam the FairEmail notification works correctly.

It's a little bit difficult to test though because I very rarely get any Spam, and of course I can't force test a Spam email via Gmail's servers.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Gmail spam messages are marked as read, so this is to be expected.
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
Are you sure? Because if this was the case I would never have noticed that I had received a Spam message in the first place.

But I immediately saw it when I opened my PC today, because I have Gmail's Spam folder set to only show if unread.

Then I wondered why I didn't have a notification from FairEmail, so I opened it on my phone and the message showed as unread in the Spam folder there too.

So I'm not sure it's correct that 'Spam messages are marked as read'?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure, but new message notifications require messages to be new and unread.

If you open a spam message on your PC, it will likely be marked read and as a result FairEmail will remove the new message notification.
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
I understand, but that is not what happened.

It's late here now, so I will write and explain again tomorrow.
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
Thank you,

So it is an issue with Yahoo web UI, disguising folder as Spam.

Thank you for your time,

I just wanted to make sure.

Same here. Unable to switch subscribed newsletters at the moment, though.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
New messages in a Gmail Spam folder are marked unread, even in my FE spam box.

I have just tested this and set a notification on new messages in the Spam folder, and that arrives as expected and does not disappear by itself.
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
Sometimes, I go through the local contacts list within the app and clear some of the unnecessary addresses and also to rename some contact names. As I marked "add senders of incoming mails to the contact list", some addresses like noreply@ and no-reply@ are added too. So I would like to suggest:

1. being able to long-press mark multiple contacts after searching and bulk-deleting them

2. never adding no-reply addresses to the contacts*

3. adding an option for an account-independent contacts and frequency count such that the same contact doesn't have to be added x times for x accounts but only once

* This one may however cause troubles if a noreply address was marked as "not Spam", I think, so such addresses would need to be an exception and added to the contacts
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I've added multiple select for local contacts to my to do list, but this will be low priority.

I don't think it is a good idea to ignore no-reply addresses and account independent contacts. Many people set up an extra account for newsletters, etc, so blocked and allowed contacts should be account specific.
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
I can see that and that's why I was speaking of adding an option (e.g. a toggle) while the default behavior remains the same as that's what people are used to now.

Also, an account-independent contact list should be slightly more efficient in terms of retrieving but especially in terms of memory and disk usage. Though probably more of a theoretical rather than a noticeable improvement for the end user.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What you can do is long press on a local contact and mark it as "never favorite". This way the contact will never be used for suggestions, etc.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will support swapping (reversing) the primary and accent color for the Material You theme.

Edit: example:
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
Thanks for confirming and replying, that was my understanding and experience too.

How did you test? By manually marking a message as Spam? I also tested like this and also found the notifications worked correctly in that situation.

But for an email that was automatically sent to Spam by Gmail's servers I didn't get any notification.

As I said, it's a little bit difficult to test though because I very rarely get any Spam (like, 1 in 3-6 months), and of course I can't force test a Spam email via Gmail's servers.

Maybe it was just a one off glitch on my side. I will change my setup slightly to accommodate this and make a note to check the next time some Spam arrives.

THANKS @heinhuiz and @M66B :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1768 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/dowload:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I have one Gmail account that seems to work like a spam magnet. I set the Spam folder to notify on new messages and I got a new notification within 5 minutes 🥴
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
😀 Ok, good to know (y) I guess it was just a glitch on my side then.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail will be 10 MB bigger because Google forces apps to include emoji. This is the policy:

The alternative is worse: let the app download the emoji on demand from Google's servers.

As a comparison: the app is about 20 MB now.

I am pretty shocked by this monopolistic dictating behavior of Google.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
April 1 🤔
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Why should every app include those emojis??? It would be better if Google downloaded it via play services once and stored it for the whole system and for all apps to use.
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
I was thinking the same thing, but assumed that I didn't understand correctly, because that would seem crazy... 😀
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Another Play store voting round would be appreciated.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have gone through the source code and it appears that the Emoji font file is provided by Google Play services.

The next version of the app will fetch the Emoji font file by default for the Play store version to be compliant with the new Play store policies and optionally for the GitHub version (you will be able to turn this on or off in the privacy settings).
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
Pardon my ignorance - what and where is s Play Store voting round?
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Marcel is asking us to write/update a 5-star review about the app in the Google Play Store to make the global vote more accurate (even of you installed the GitHub version).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What I would like is that accurate/inaccurate reviews, are voted up/down (there is a thumb up/down for each Play store comment).

Example: THERE ARE NO FOLDERS IN MY POP3 ACCOUNT !!! 1 STAR

Of course not, POP3 is from 1988 when people had an inbox only.
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
Ah, OK. I thought it meant there was some monthly play store page for users to vote for their top ten apps out of some list or something I wasn't seeing.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1769 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/dowload:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

You are advised to update to this version, unless you like drafts being left in the drafts folder ...
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
What are tracker protection lists?

What happens if I select to use them?

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If you tap on the info button, this FAQ will be opened:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq159
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Another example:

Maybe there was a typo in the password, or an app password was needed, etc.

No, of course not, the app is to blame! 1 star! The developer is an @#*¢%! and doesn't deserve any chance.

It is so easy to rate 1 star and so hard to develop an app like this :-(
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Google:

Me: that's easy, just tick that my apps do not collect data and save. Ready!

I think this data safety form is a good thing because all Android developers are required to specify which data their apps collect in detail, including examples.

Meta wil have a lot of work to do filling out this form ...
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Cool! I did not know that.

Very nice.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
@M66B I think there's is a small inconsistency with the dark Material You theme. The background color (behind the cards when you swipe them) isn't the same as the date decorator, which is otherwise always the case on the other themes I've tried, including the light Material You theme. It seems a bit odd like this especially when sweeping cards away. Is this intended?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Can you please send me a screenshot by email showing what you mean?

For me it looks good, but maybe I am missing something?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
Sorry Marcel and everyone, it's a mistake on my end. I customized the header color a long time ago on my personal builds and forgot about it since it was the same color as the background color for the solarized theme, which I used pretty much all the time.

Thank you Marcel for the continued and lightning fast support (even helping dumb people with their own bugs :D).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
@mkasimd since I believe local contacts can better be retained disabled instead of deleted, the next version will cycle through favorite, never favorite and normale contact state on tapping on a local contact.

Multiple select is a bit overdone for this list IMHO, also because most people will use the Android address book.

In addition, it will be possible to search from the local contact popup to refresh your memory why you blocked a contact, etc.
[Android Apps and Games] droidsometimes:
But saved drafts that are supposed to stay in the drafts folder will not be removed? Because I use the drafts folder as sort of an online scrapbook.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The comment was about a bug, so no worries, your drafts will stay where they are.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1770 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1771 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The version was released to fix all reported bugs.

I like you to test if long pressing the send button at the bottom of the message composer still shows the send dialog, also when you navigated away from the app and back.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Here it works as expected.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Works as expected. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] Friedel25:
Hello Marcel, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

I am sending you a message about what I found out.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will check if you are sending to a "no-reply" address. The current check is if the username part of the email address (username@example.org) contains "noreply" or "no-reply". Please let me know if you think other things should be checked too.
[Android Apps and Games] sbellon:
Perhaps "do-not-reply" also?
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Marcel,

Maybe should you check either the sender's address as well as the Reply to if the header exists. I have a newsletter mail in which the Reply to contains "noreply".

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
The current implementation checks if you are sending TO a no reply address (outgoing message), not whether the FROM or REPLY-TO address of a received (incoming) message. So it will warn you if a message you are composing has a noreply address within the TO and perhaps also CC and BCC fields. So there should be no need to check the FROM and REPLY-TO fields.

At least that's how I understood the commit https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/68070aebfeed5afed1a37bea7779894d2affd112 but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
[Android Apps and Games] Baspla:
Is there a way to make swiping to "Archive" store my mail by the corresponding years?

My Web Client and Thunderbird automatically do this, but i can't find any option or mention of this feature in FairEmail.

Greetings
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Correct :cool:

Also, sometimes I do send to no-reply addresses, which I know are working. So, it is a warning only, not a hard block.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You can change the archive folder in the account settings (under Manual setup and account options in the main setup screen).

The app won't create automatically folders though and won't change the system folder mappings automatically. So, you'll have to do this once a year yourself.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1772 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Not in the changelog, but if you disabled the image dialog, you can now long press the image button in the media action bar in the message composer to show the image dialog anyway.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
And yet again there are remarks about the number of options:

https://www.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/qlsry8

This is pretty frustrating because it happened so many times somebody complained about the number of options and later came asking for a new option. In such cases the answer will always be "no".

I hear you saying "put the options away behind a button, etc". I tried that: 1 star: no options! :-(
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
There's a joke. One guy is running in the rain, asks the other: "why are you running away? It's just God pouring on you". Next day, that other guy is running himself as it rains. Claiming he runs only to not step on God's rain.

Blames and excuses. They will keep haunting you. They will make them sound as rational as they can. But in the end it's all just blames and excuses. So don't even bother to measure the extent of your work with what they say about your work.

You cannot make everyone happy. Some just refuse to be happy themselves anyways. But fact is, that the widest majority of your user base is happy with FairEmail. It is the best rated email client in the Play Store after all, despite of a few low star reviews.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1773 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version was released to fix the message composer not opening because the OpenKeychain app isn't responding.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Did FairEmail already caught you when sending to a do-not-reply address? ;-)
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Yes, it works perfectly, there is an orange warning message on top of the confirmation popup.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is a pretty disappointing 1 star review:

OAuth is not available for third party builds, mainly the F-Droid build, because Google, etc didn't approve these builds to access their (OAuth) servers. It took me literally months to get permission from Verizon (for Yahoo) to use OAuth. Allowing this for third party builds, which is explicitly excluded in the contracts I had to sign (!) will eventually result in revoking the granted permission. My inbox would "explode" of the complaints of hundreds of thousands people who can't access their account anymore!

This is also explained when you are trying to use OAuth in a third party build, which makes this review pretty frustrating.

Anyway, end of rant. The next version will have a setting to change the card padding, so you can use the compact view with more padding and the normal view with less padding.

Another Play store voting round would be appreciated.

Edit: fortunately the guy updated his review after my explanation.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Since a while there is an option to donate with Monero because it is privacy friendly and anonymous. Unfortunately, this is also why it is often used for illicit purposes. Since I don't want to be associated with this, I am planning to remove this option. Are there any objections?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1774 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This is a release candidate for the next public Play store version (once a month only now to prevent 1 star reviews for "too many updates").
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Hello Marcel,

About this new release, I've seen that in the 3-dot overflow menu, the size of the two items "Text size" and "Padding size" follows the setting itself that is if using a small size, the font used to display the texts is small.

I think it is a bit weird and it made me think of a bug at first sight compared to the others items that are homogeneously written in the menu.

I'm not asking for a change, it's only a thought.

What do the others think about this?

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
I agree - it does look a little odd.
[Android Apps and Games] ammarr:
I found it a bit clever to cycle between the actual sizes in the menu 😃
[Android Apps and Games] O_DoC:
Hi,

First thing is I really couldn't have any objections -os course- as this is completely under your own decision (and I never plan to use that option).

But -just my two cents- about the 'reason why' you / we / all of us would use or not use this kind of donation option...as far as I know... millions, billions currencies are ''illicitly and purposely'' moved everyday by cash and bank transfer easily around the globe...do we stop using cash or bank account / transfer...?

Well as told...just my 2cents.

Good night everyone
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1775 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

There is another solution for showing the text / padding size in the overflow menu. Please let me know what you think about it.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
I like this. More uniformity !
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
This new size indicator is perfect and visually better than previously.

Thanks Marcel.