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[Android Apps and Games] Will_T:
OK. I will just be OK with this. Mainly what confused me is this:

The definition of "All" is "Including everything".

The definition of "Archive" can be two things:

A place to store all historical data (noun). or: Something you do to an entity to mark that you are finished with it and just want to store it in an archive for historical purposes (verb).

Gmail uses archive as a verb that you do to an email. And then uses "All" as a synonym for the noun version of archive as a historical place to store all emails. To me this makes sense but that is just me.

FairEmail (and others, I guess), use archive as a noun only and as being synonymous with "all". The concept of archive as a verb is not used.

I understand now and can adapt. I think because I have used Gmail for so long, "Archive" as a verb and "All" as the substitute for noun version of "archive" makes sense. But if you do not ever use archive as a verb by which you "archive" an email, then using "Archive" to title the folder that contains all emails makes more sense.

Thanks. Still love this app!
[Android Apps and Games] Will_T:
You know, I am not sure why, but in the Play Store I do not have the ability to write reviews. Even when logged in correctly and when on the detail page of an app that shows as me having it installed. For example on the FairEmail app page in the store, I can read reviews, but have no button to write one of my own.

Edit: I found this posted on another site for the benefit of others like myself who have accounts that don't allow them to write reviews. It seems to work.

Try the workaround below. I found this trick mentioned in one of the support threads that Google stubbornly ignore

Go to the Play Store page for the app you want to rate, e.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand

Copy the app ID (after ?id=) from the URL bar - here that is: net.osmand

Go to https://play.google.com/store/ereview?docId=, adding the copied ID: https://play.google.com/store/ereview?docId=net.osmand

You should now see a blank page with a small text box in the middle.

Just write your review and click Submit. You can then edit or delete the review the usual way, from the store page.

Not working any longer.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That's likely because you are using a Gsuite account. Thanks for the intention in any case.
[Android Apps and Games] Will_T:
I am not using Gsuite. And unfortunately the workaround does not seem to work for me. I can write a review using the steps listed above, but when clicking "submit" the page grays out and nothing happens. So I do not think my review is getting posted. Oh well.

edit: a comment at the above post does indicate that the work around has stopped working. And the following from a Google support page may be why I can't review the app:

If any account on your device is part of a beta program for an app, you can’t leave a review for that app.

I have a few apps that are beta. It says you can leave the beta program to write a review and then rejoin the beta. But someone said that when you rejoin, your review is hidden or taken down. Weird.
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
Yes, if you are in the Play Store test program for FairEmail, any review you post on FairEmail won't be visible in the public Play Store page for FairEmail. You can leave the Play Store test program for FairEmail and use the GitHub version instead.

Here's how you can install the GitHub version (please leave Google Play Test program before doing this):

https://xdaforums.com/t/app-5-0-fai...vacy-oriented-email-app.3824168/post-86775613
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1879 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will have a new advanced account option to ignore the schedule configured in the receive settings. This way it will be possible to synchronize business accounts during business hours only and to make an exception for private accounts.
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
A suggestion on that end. Maybe instead of making it per-account, wouldn't it make more sense to define the sync times per account-category?

Meanwhile, the app can keep a list of categories to both "auto fill"-suggestions while entering a category name in the account settings. E.g. if I have entered the category "work" in account 1, it should be shown in a drop-down menu while entering a category name in account 2.

Then in the Receive settings, there could be a toggle "category-based scheduling". If toggle is activated, one can configure a different schedule for each account category. The "?" icon redirects to an FAQ how to add a category to an account.

Why? This way the user doesn't have to set and later modify the schedule for each account when he has multiple work and private accounts on the device.

Again, it's just an idea / feedback. You will have to determine yourself whether it makes sense and how complex adding such a feature would be. If it's not worth the hassle, then that suggested way is quite nice in itself.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The idea is nice and I will give it some thought. However, the extra level makes it more flexible, but also more complex, both regarding how to explain this and implement and maintain this.

The current implementation is rather straightforward on the other hand.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Just that you know:

The app doesn't have smileys (maybe your keyboard has???)

The app will show the spam messages in the spam folder of the email server

If you are very happy with the app, you rate 3 stars of course

Your Gmail account stops working on May 30 because it is a stupid app

The app doesn't store sent messages

Generally, the app is a waste of your time.
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
Some companies get a 5 star review for scamming people. Fairemail gets 3 or 4 stars for being a "great email app". I don't understand some people either..

And of course, don't forget to blame the app for it's "web version". web.email.faircode.eu is the place. You gotta scan a QR code and now you can load all of your messages and even write new messages or reply in your browser! Requires your Android phone to stay connected for it to work, though. Also, new lines will only work via CTRL+Return. Think of it like WhatsApp Web **

Here's the proof:

"ruthless scam for the elderly!" - 5 stars

"Great email app. Fast, clear [user-friendly], simply great. Highly satisfied" - 4 stars

** No, there is no web version. Think of it as a belated April fool's joke motivated by a German Play Store review talking about the "web version" of FairEmail even though no such thing exists lol

P.S.: just went for another round for up & downvotes
[Android Apps and Games] Will_T:
You know, I would not let a few dumb reviews get you down. No matter the app, there are always a certain percentage of those. Some are trolls. Some are just not thought through. (Like the occasional 1-star review on Amazon that goes on to write "Love this product. Best performance and value there is!") In a nutshell, some people are dumb jerks, and some people just make dumb mistakes.

As an end user of apps, I have learned that in the Play Store, any rating above 4.3 or 4.4 deserves a close look as the app is certainly well loved. Your app shows a rating of 4.7 and I would consider that a virtually perfect rating. I think it is almost impossible for an app that has more than just a few hundred users to get much better than that, so stay positive. Without a doubt, the vast majority of FairEmail users love the app. And anyone considering FairEmail and seeing a 4.7 rating, or even 4.4 or 4.5 will not have any hesitation at all to try it out.

By the way, I think your policy of responding to Play Store reviews is a very smart policy. That way you can correct mistakes and misunderstandings and get some of the less than 5 star reviews modified. Of course, you have to be careful that once you realize the few cases where you are dealing with a real troll, you make sure to let it go. Trolls want no more than attention and for them, getting attention from the creator of a 4.7 rated app is hitting the troll jackpot! Never feed a troll if you can help it.
[Android Apps and Games] dalepl:
Very well said. :)
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
+1 , u.s. playstore
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
as a pretty much "full-blooded" conspiracy theorist , just how many of those reviews are actually real people?

guess there is no way to know without 20gazillion hrs. of legwork. if even that could be done.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I just downgraded all the 1 stars in the US playstore.

Fairemail is by far the best email app around.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1883 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version will automatically save a new draft revision (=restore point) after every new paragraph (=basically using the enter key).
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
English review you might like or not like

IMHO it is pretty unfair, but I am the mad man.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If use your own domain for email, it might be a good idea to create an account here to monitor the domain:

Harden your email - Mailhardener

Mailhardener helps you secure and monitor your domain from being used for fraud and spam.

www.mailhardener.com

There are many similar services, but in my opinion this one is excellent.

Your mad developer.
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
IMHO, anyone managing an own mail server should be capable to create a subdomain for MTA-STS returning a static text and set the DNS records for SPF/DKIM/DMARC. It's not a huge hassle as many people think (been there, still doing it).

But it could be interesting for people who don't want to manage anything themselves. Be it because they are not tech guys, or be it because they just don't want to spend time with it.

There's an alternative for both email and HTTP btw: Scott Helme's report-uri.com. But it doesn't focus on emails, but more on HTTP headers and reports, though. Even though both DMARC and TLS-RPT reports are possible there too.

Mailhardener's biggest advantage IMO is that the GDPR-compliance doesn't depend on whatever deal the UK might agree on once the current agreements expire. The Dutch aren't leaving the EU anytime soon after all. Hopefully. 😅
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I serve my own text file, which is indeed rather simple, and mailharderner will still work with it ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I may be forced to remove Gravatar support from the GitHub (and F-Droid) version of the app:

There IS a privacy policy both in the app description and in the app itself

Gravatars are NOT fetched by the Play store version of the app

Gravatars CAN be fetched by the GitHub version, but only after explicitly enabling this in the display settings

I have had this "discussion" (between quotes because the answer was simply "add a privacy policy") before with Google.

I appealed after double checking the APK file as downloaded from the Play store (version 1.1875) and there is no trace of the Gravatar URI in the file. The text "Gravatar" appears in some strings (the option texts) and my guess is that this is the problem. If this is the case, I have no other choice than removing anything Gravatar related from the app.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Checking the differences between the latest two Play store versions I found this:

Redacted changelog · M66B/FairEmail@8ebf631

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - Redacted changelog · M66B/FairEmail@8ebf631

github.com
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
IMHO that's okay. If only the GitHub version is affected, there should be less complaining anyways.
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
Ok I went back to update my review and vote down *all* English 1-star and 2-star reviews. Still on 4.8 in the English Play Store 😏
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A 1 star German review about images not showing, which is most likely not related to the app.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Gravatar and Libravatar support will be removed in the next version. Depending on what Google says I might reconsider this, but given the last "discussion" with Google about this, I am not hopeful.

Since a new version needs to be released in the Play store within a week to prevent to app from being removed from the Play store, there will be bug fixing only coming week.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Also, updates only make things worse, so why would I work on updates?

("After the last update, QR codes in the mails are only displayed as red images. It's actually gotten worse with every update")

Red images = browser can't display images = not related to the app.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
downvoted and reported
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1884 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Gravatar / Libravatar support was removed, see earlier comments about why. Basically, Google's monopoly extends beyond the Play store version and as independent developer there is little I can do because a reasonable discussion with Google is just not possible. "The computer says so".

On the bright side, there is a new widget option to use the selected highlight color for unread messages.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1884 contains a critical bug, drafts are sometimes partially being saved and sent.

To prevent F-Droid from building it, it was erased from history.

Please update to version 1.1885

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The app is "eye cancer", 1 star of a German person in English.

Reported to Google, but Google says that the review isn't violating the review guidelines. WTF.

Edit: the review is gone.
[Android Apps and Games] Will_T:
Playstore version just downloaded is 1.1884a. I assume this still has the draft bug? I will check for updates again later.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1885 is still being evaluated by Google ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The answer to my appeal regarding Gravatar was basically the same as the message I initially received. So, as predicted, there is no healthy discussion possible with Google. Therefore I have no choice than keep leaving Gravatar out of the app completely. If you don't like this, please complain to Google.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have replied to Google that they should be transparent about why the app isn't approved for the Play store, referencing EU regulation 2019/1150, article 22, and said that the issue should be escalated if they don't have an answer. I will probably hit a wall again, but I think it is worth a try. I will consider to file a complaint with the EU if there is a "monkey" answer again.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Love your persistence 👍
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will have basic integration with LanguageTool ;-)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1885b is available on BitBucket now:

https://bitbucket.org/M66B/fairemail-test/downloads/FairEmail-v1.1885b-github-xda-release.apk

To use LanguageTool, long press the save button in the message editor. There will be lines below text with text suggestions and you can tap on the underlined text to see and apply a suggestion. Try for example "This is an text".

Gravatars and Libravatars are back as "Show avatars" in the display settings. The code for this won't be compiled into the Play store version at all anymore.

All changes:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/compare/1.1885...1.1885b?w=1
[Android Apps and Games] Reynald0:
I have actually compiled the latest release from source, and I experience this overlapping scrolling that is quite strange.

Spoiler content hidden.

So far I have tried installing over an old build, and clean starting it importing my settings and I keep seeing that entry spawning the filtering registry.

Spoiler content hidden.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That's not the latest version ...

Edit: correction, let me fix that.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
@Reynald0 please pull this commit:

Fixed log recursion · M66B/FairEmail@02d6e01

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - Fixed log recursion · M66B/FairEmail@02d6e01

github.com
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Gravatars is included in the GitHub version again?
[Android Apps and Games] Zilla0617:
Is anyone getting an error with Gmail? This is the error I'm seeing,

*BYE Jakarta Mail Exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out * BYE Jakarta Mail Exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is likely caused by internet connectivity problems. Also, using a VPN, firewall, ad blocker, etc can cause this.
[Android Apps and Games] Zilla0617:
I have 2 Gmail accounts and 1 outlook account setup in Fairemail. Only one of my Gmail accounts is experiencing issues. Only noticed because Fairemail is not allowing the device to enter deep sleep
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What is the exact error message?

This won't prevent the device from sleeping though.
[Android Apps and Games] Zilla0617:
*BYE Jakarta Mail Exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out * BYE Jakarta Mail Exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out.

It's only associated with one of my Gmail accounts. The others are fine
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The error message means that no response from the email server was received. With Gmail this is rather unlikely. Therefore this is probably caused by a network error. It is odd that this happens with one account only though.

What happens if you use 'force sync' in the three dots menu of the start screen?
[Android Apps and Games] Zilla0617:
I tried to reauthorize the Gmail account but it's not working. When I go to the accounts page the problematic Gmail account has an "x" by it
[Android Apps and Games] Zilla0617:
It's unable to sync, the account has a yellow triangle at the bottom. The notification keeps alternating between monitoring 2 accounts and 3 accounts
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Try to run the quick setup wizard again for the account.
[Android Apps and Games] Zilla0617:
Ran the quick wizard, Gmail is unable to sync various folders
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please send me the debug info by long pressing 'Support' in the navigation menu. Please indicate which account this is about.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Which account?
[Android Apps and Games] Zilla0617:
I sent it again with the email
[Android Apps and Games] Zilla0617:
@ Marcel. Thank you for the support
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Can u share the solution to your problem on this forum?will be appreciated. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This commit describes the uncovered issue:

Updated FAQ · M66B/FairEmail@472ea58

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - Updated FAQ · M66B/FairEmail@472ea58

github.com
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1886 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The plan is to release this version as new public Play store version to "fix" the Gravatar issue.
[Android Apps and Games] 30jp:
Why does someone choose the most privacy-friendly email program for android FairEmail and use it for the most unprivacy-friendly email provider Gmail.

Knowing that they use all the information in FairEmail and your phone?

But you can also ask why FairEmail is in the Google Playstore?

Knowing that the privacy you provide with your program will be negated by Google on the phone.

Or have I been sitting in the sun too long?

In the end, everyone should know for themselves what they are doing and I don't want to judge anyone for it.

I probably do the same in other things myself.

It's just thoughts that came to my mind.

I think it's time for me to go for a walk.

Greetings
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
I have been a FairEmail user since before it was publicly released, Dec 2018 to be exact. I have been a Gmail user since 2006. I have used or tried most email apps on the play store. I did not come to FE for it's security( privacy friendly) features , I came to FE because it is the best Android email app and I have stayed with FE because it is still the best. It's reliability, it's customization features, and more than anything the level of support Marcel provides is unmatched. I am willing to bet that a vast majority of users are here precisely because of those reasons and in their day to day operations security is not always front and center on their minds.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Hi Marcel - been a while since I posted - as always thank you for the enormous work you put in to FE - it is very much appreciated.

I know you are usually way ahead on this but thought best to check.

Do you know if FE will work ok running under Android 13 beta 1?

thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The current version of the app should work fine, but the app needs to be updated for Android 13 and the most notable change will be requesting notification permissions. This is not a big change, but is will be a complication regarding user experience, support and probably a series of frustrating reviews.

I will look into this when Android beta 2 has been released.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Thank you marcel - that sounds good.

I did note the notification changes and the media permissions split into 3 as well.
[Android Apps and Games] 30jp:
Hi Nadir,

Maybe I'm too much in my own bubble.

Because I consciously didn't want Google and came to FairEmail because of the privacy and now it turns out that it is simply the best email app.

And yes, that Marcel puts so much support and time into it is great. Although I have already said here that it is best to do less and that he should think more about himself.

What also strikes me is that Marcel is expected to solve problems caused by Gmail and Hotmail. While if people had a good email provider (privacy friendly and paid) there would be no problems.

Or am I thinking too simple about that?

Greetings
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
We all get a different kind of satisfaction from using FairEmail and at the end of the day that is what counts.

Best wishes
[Android Apps and Games] WiraHy:
FairEmail is an open source email app that helps improve your email privacy. It opens all emails in Safe View, which removes any trackers from received emails, so your email activity cannot be tracked. This means that any styling or scripting is removed, so there's the bonus of improved readability. FairEmail has zero ads, analytics, or tracking software built-in, so you can feel comfortable knowing that your emails are completely private.

8 best email apps for Android

If you're tired of Gmail, there are plenty of other great options available

www.androidpolice.com

FairEmail very suite my needs very well.. open source app that doesn't reducing any of it's easy to use functions.. (y)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
So many people contacted me about LaPoste.net.

Quick summary: this provider is basically dead.

There have been problems for about two weeks and recently they disable IMAP and POP3, they say, but what they fail to say is that incoming SMTP is disabled too and that therefore no more messages will be received.

Even if this is being fixed/restored, I am advising you to move away from this provider. This FAQ might be useful:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq112
[Android Apps and Games] 30jp:
Sorry WiraHy,

But on the site you recommend as "best 8 email apps" there are 6 full of trackers and only 2 (Protonmail and FairEmail) that match the description of the site.

My advice, for privacy, don't look to Android Police.

Greetings