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[Android Apps and Games] TB0815:
Hm, then I am too stupid for that. I went directly to a inbox, opened one of the unread messages, delete them and jump back to the inbox. => Should not because there are two messages.

I read the second one, got back to the Inbox, opend the mail again and delete it, jumped back to the inbox. => should also not because there are still more unread messages in the inbox.

I got explizit to the inbox, no notification, no collective mailbox or something else...
[Android Apps and Games] Ines*:
Note that '*next* conversation/msg' is a newer one. (Edit: if navigation direction is not reversed)

By enabling "showing conversation action bar" and "position with a dot" in Settings > Display, you get indications if a previous and/or next conv./msg exists.

Even coming from a notification, FE seems to have the unified inbox as reference if unified inbox is set as the start screen.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
It must just be me or my phone but I have problems with swiping in the unified inbox.

Sometimes swiping works perfectly. But if it didn't work the first time (opened the message instead of deleting it) then my repeated attempts at swiping to delete (the closed message) persistently reopens the message instead. Maybe my screen is too sensitive or the built in AI (?) In my phone (android pie) is trying to help me. I don't know. But I thought to mention it in case I was not alone.
[Android Apps and Games] TB0815:
How I said: to stupid ;)

That was it! I thought das next conversation is the next message. Of course in a conversation you have to think in antoher way.

So it works :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There was an edge case where the background sync would display a swiped away message again, but this has been fixed in the latest version.
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
You can change FE's language to English somewhere in FE settings.

That's what I've done since I'm in testing mode and comment a lot here on this thread
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In the miscellaneous settings to be exact.
[Android Apps and Games] cobben:
Swiping is as swiping does, there can be several overlays of different "swipes," or I suppose more properly named "gestures" in a device.

In my Asus Z6 I am using an app FNG (Fluid Navigation Gestures) to produce gestures similar to those in MIUI, which I have become accustomed to.

In FNG you can define up to 4 edge gestures (swipes from each edge) for each side, and up to 4 bottom-up gestures, with settings for their sensitivity.

These can very easily conflict with the ones built into Android by Google, and ones that Asus has added, and ones that various apps define.

With Android 10 Google is apparently trying to standardize the gestures, up to appoint.

This could become interesting soon . . .
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I think you are right.

On my phone (as one example) when I swipe to delete a notification more than once or twice, android pops up to ask me if I wish to continue receiving those notifications or whether it should prevent them. So I know it's watching and why I thought of a similar ai interfering wjith my FairEmail swipe deletions.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail explicitly requests to disable the AI on Android 10, which is enabled by default causing Android to add notification actions out of the blue. I don't like this AI stuff, it is more for people who cannot think for themselves.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I don't like it either. I don't like constant surveillance from anyone. But I don't know how it can be disabled in android pie.
[Android Apps and Games] :
Is there any way to select multiple emails and forward them all with the two of a button?
[Android Apps and Games] PauloNeto15:
Why it isn't available in the brazilian Google Play?

I am using the F-Droid edition, but I would like to buy the Pro from Google Play.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, this unusual operation is not possible.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail is not available in countries with a high number of unfair or unreasonable reviews, which includes Brazil.
[Android Apps and Games] ouzowtf:
Because of
[Android Apps and Games] xmiseggs:
I haven't seen it, but would it be possible to add a search within an email I have open?

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This would be a very interesting option, I have needed it on more than one occasion, especially for work.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am sorry, but I have currently no plans to add these features because they will hardly be used.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_creep
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Just for information: After changing several FE settings as described in the FAQ, the battery consumption now seems to be very low again.
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Can you please share which parameters you set and their values?

It could be interesting for all of us.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Yes indeed! Would be very useful information. Different networks behave differently and optimizing is sometimes a challenge. Your data would be very useful. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I agree and when providers need specific settings, I can add them to the built-in profiles.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just release

stable

version 1.774

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I read the FAQ (39) Marcel pointed me in his Post #9662 and changed what there is recommended.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
This is probably not practical, but if possible would be cool.

In my united inbox, spam messages from the same spammer often come in three. Each slightly differently worded, or from slightly different senders, to 3 different mailbox accounts. I create customized rules to send them to my junk folders.

It would be cool if one could select all 3 and FairEmail could use computer logic to rapidly create a rule (regex?) that would handle all 3 in one common rule. Like it now does in the rules screen for a single message. That would be really cool!

(I can dream)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Keep dreaming ;)
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I think the biggest battery saving was the reduction of the synchronization time from 7 to 1 day for all synchronized directories; then the complete night shutdown of the synchronization.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
The FAQ says

"If you have at least once a day internet connectivity, it is sufficient to synchronize messages just for one day."

I just changed my settings as above.

Why is that not the default?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Because we cannot assume everybody has internet connectivity each day.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
But FE knows how often each device has an internet connection and could therefore automatically and independently reduce this synchronization value to a corresponding value for each device; in addition, there is the manual synchronization triggered by a scroll down.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail cannot predict the future.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.775

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The is mostly a maintenance release.

There is a new privacy setting to show all hidden texts (default disabled). Previous versions of FairEmail showed all texts, hidden or not, which could result in odd and duplicate texts.

Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Text hidden by using the CSS style attribute "display: none;"

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/display

Some senders appear to send all texts twice, once for displaying on larger screens and once for displaying on smaller screens. One of the texts is hidden and the other is made visible depending on the screen size. Since FairEmail strips most CSS styling, both texts were displayed. The latest release will strip hidden elements to prevent double texts and adds an option to still be able to display all texts, whether hidden or not.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
But can FairEmail see the past, and then sync since the date of the last internet connection only?
[Android Apps and Games] cobben:
I have 7 days because I am syncing over 4 devices, and by experience I know that within usually a week I have decided which emails to keep, answer, delete, etc.

On my Android devices I have generally battery usage for FE of around 1-1.5%, which I do not see as a problem.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That could be done, but there is more to it: older messages might be marked read or moved by another (desktop) client without being noticed by FairEmail. One week is a reasonable safe period in which I expect most if not all messages to be handled in some way.

Nevertheless, I will consider to add an option to do just this.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am sorry, but I can't do this because it can cause trouble with Google. The Play store version and associated Play store purchases and the GitHub version with an alternate way to get the pro features need to be strictly separated to not violate Google's rules.
[Android Apps and Games] dirtyreturn:
Protect Yourself, Man! Yeah!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It is not about myself. Violating Google's rules might result in FairEmail being removed from the Play store, affecting everybody who did install FairEmail through the Play store. Also, Play store purchases would be lost in this scenario.

Edit: currently there are about 2000 installs from the Play store and about 100 from GitHub, so the Play store is the most important distribution channel.
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
OK Understood - next time I'll purchase directly from you. Or maybe I'll just purchase it again directly. Thanks.

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I enabled debug and both messages in the outbox are dim, but show the following after:
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Seen=true, so you should be able to delete these messages in the most recent version. Long press on the outbox folder and select to delete local messages. The question remains why these messages were not moved to sent though.
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
Thanks, I worked that one out. But that only provides direct access to the main email account. Other inboxes require accessing and exiting via folders.

My point is that the Inbox is the primary folder for each email account, rather than the root folders, it would therefore streamline the app if the inboxes for each account were directly accessable from the menu rather than the mailbox folders as these are also available from the folder icon once in the inbox.

Does that make sense, or is it just me who wants to view account inboxes one by one?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please make a GitHub issue for this. I will give this a thought. Are the any opinions on this? My idea is that the navigation menu is already pretty crowded.
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
Thanks, I will do. But I'm just suggesting replacing direct access in the menu with inboxes instead of root folders so there would be no increase in entries.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Okay, but where should the access to the folders go to?
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
Its already there as an icon from the inbox.

So you are just swapping direct access to folders with direct access to inboxes

You could, if wanted, add a count of how many emails are unread in the menu against each inbox too.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
For me it works. Mi A1 on stock Android 8.1.0, fully updated. App version 0.47.
[Android Apps and Games] BunnyWarrior:
LOL you are a living coding maschine :) Sry for the delay I switched to the fdroid version and did not keep up with the thread. Thanks to your new update feature I am back to the bleeding edge. Donation was worth every buck.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is no such icon. There is an action bar icon to show the folders of the primary account only. All menus should have a single action not depending on previous actions as well.

Edit: it is not that I am not open to suggestions, but I have to find a balance between user's needs and simplicity somewhere. This means also that I cannot make everybody happy.
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
I am referring to the folder icon to the right in the top blue bar when viewing an email inbox.

Therefore main menu would take you directly to the inbox and from there the top right folder icon takes you to the folder view for that particular account
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That icon is meant to navigate directly to the folders of the primary account only.

Another thought: adding the inboxes to the navigation menu would raise the question which other folders should be part of the navigation menu. Maybe not your question, but somebody will eventually ask about this. FairEmail is meant to support multiple accounts, so listing the accounts in the navigation menu is the most logical.

Does anybody else have thoughts about this?
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
Long press only lets me star or mark unread, not delete.

I am running 0.47
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Long press on the outbox in the folder list, not on a message in the message list.
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
So it does, would make more sense to navigate directly to the folders of the account currently in use.

The question of which folders should be in the nav menu... well an email app is for primarily reading email right, perusing subfolders is a secondary action...

OK, it seems I am a lone voice in wanting to primarily navigate to the inbox of each account simply. Its just I dont really understand why one would want to view the folders per account over the inbox per account, at least in the first instance, after all thats the primary purpose - to read email.

Either way, loving the app thanks again
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The unified inbox is just about that, reading the emails received. Most people want it like this and most email apps have something similar.
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
Not suggesting to remove the unified inbox.. just to switch to each inbox easily
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You are in sync ;)
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Maybe then it is good to sync for the set amount of time plus additional days if there was no connection previously. So, if the setting is 7 days like the default is now, automatically add days if there was no connectivity for more than 7 days.

That will not affect current behaviour unless there was no connection for a longer time, and people can safely reduce the sync time if their usage pattern allows it.
[Android Apps and Games] cobben:
While I was migrating from Bluemail I had set 30 days and sync on all folders, which did not work so well as my provider complained that I had too many connections at the same time.

Not in person, rather via shutting down some of them automatically
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That is not a bad idea when limited to the number of days to keep messages for. Maybe next version ;)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That's a known problem with some providers.

Related FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq23

I don't see a good reason to limit the number of folder connections, but who am I? A much better approach is to simply slow down things if there is too much traffic. This is what Google does, but strangely enough they limit the number of folder connections too.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Probably a default setting of syncing for 4 days would be enough for most people, because then it covers the weekends (including Good Fridays ?).
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
It would also depend on the number of folders you have synced and the number of emails that you send and receive.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Absolutely! I don't think anyone was blaming FE , just trying to optimize battery consumption. It consumes less battery than most apps I have used:)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Synchronizing 1,000 folders wouldn't be smart to say the least. Receiving 150 emails each day shouldn't be a problem at all if they are pushed.
[Android Apps and Games] sethnet:
Maybe I haven't seen it but looking for the synchronization settings to vary the number of days I found that I had to do it folder by folder, with a long press to enter the properties of each of them.

Is there any way to change the days to sync for all the folders at once? And, if there isn't, would it be possible to add an option that can change the settings all at once, including a warning saying "this action will change the settings of all the folders"?

Enviado desde mi ALP-L09 mediante Tapatalk
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Since you won't be doing this often, you shouldn't synchronize many folders and different folders mostly require different settings, I have no plans to add an option for this.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In fact FairEmail is already doing exactly this:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/b...java/eu/faircode/email/EntityFolder.java#L218

So, somebody already had this idea much earlier ;)
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Sometimes you forget how smart you are ?
[Android Apps and Games] _nomercy_:
At first thank you very much for maintaining this great piece of software!

Using the experimental "bottom filter bar" the conditions are (unfortunately) AND connected. I would like to have unread OR tagged mails visible. I dont know if it makes sense for other users or it could be configurable somehow.

Im about to purchase a licence. Does it make more sense buying the PlayStore or F-Droid Version? Just asking. Maybe its not so unlikely that it will disappear from PlayStore.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The filters are what they are: filters. Filters are by definition 'and'. This will not be changed because else it would likely confuses people.

I don't see why FairEmail would disappears from the Play store. It is more a question if you want to depend on a Google purchase or not. Another difference is that Google takes 30% off of each purchase.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
My recommendation is neither of the above but direct from the developper's github website.

The github version contains additional features and the payment all goes to the developer.

The Playstore keeps most of the payment.

The F-Droid version is not under the control of the developer and not always uptodate.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There are no additional features in the case of FairEmail. In the case of NetGuard there are important differences though.
[Android Apps and Games] Surfinette:
Hello,

I get a very strange pop-up error message when opening emails sent by the Netflix newsletter.

The message says:

Unexpected error

Object must not be null.

I have to click 'Cancel' to close the pop-up window, but then the email is completely blank.

Then, when I click on the little square icon, which is supposed to show the message in its original format, I can finally read the Netflix email.

I'm not sure this strange behavior existed in previous versions (I'm currently on 1.775).
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Correct. I misspoke thinking of NetGuard.

Sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] misquia:
Hey there, just dropping by.

Some feedback:

I'm a Nine user and just recently downloaded this app since I liked the principles behind the app.

That being said, I'm not a big fan of the UI. I feel it's a step back from the clean, polished design of Nine. One of the things that gets to me is the font on some parts of the app (like the left-side menu), it reminds of me Arial or something where the font is 'sharp' looking. It's not the rounder/flat font that I would expect from a modern design.

There isn't an option to change the orange accents on the toggle buttons or that blue background on the top (would be nice to have a color wheel to select the colors we want to have along with our theme).

The buttons need some work, as for what, I'm not sure. I don't have specifics, it might just be the text mentioned earlier, but it just feels off to me.

Ideas that can be taken from Nine that would be appreciated would be a passcode lock (I use 4 digits), maybe accompanied first by a required password? (this isn't on Nine)

Along with an option to scramble the numbers on the number pad and erase all data after x failed passcode attempts OR require the full password after x failed attempts.

Without at least the passcode lock in place though, I don't think I can make the switch just yet. Once that's in place, I'd totally be willing to purchase the app.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Next time please 'Report' it, so I can see what went wrong.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The design is 100% material design, including the fonts. So, I guess you just need to get used to it coming from another app.

The design of FairEmail is deliberate simple without bling-bling, so you can concentrate on reading and writing messages.

In the display settings you can select another theme, including a more neutral gray theme. Selecting colors is not possible because Android supports fixed themes only.

In the setup you can find biometric (fingerprint) authentication in the navigation/hamburger menu.
[Android Apps and Games] misquia:
Nine somehow manages the color wheel though.

https://imgur.com/ffzWoZn

https://imgur.com/lP2XQN1

That said, I didn't notice the grey dark theme, which would make it alright for my use.

I don't trust fingerprint authentication at all, hence why I currently use Nine because it has the passcode lock feature.
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Why don't take the time discovering FE before asking to change everything to your taste ?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The shown settings doesn't change the accent color, only the top action bar color.

The fingerprint authentication allows entering a pincode too.
[Android Apps and Games] misquia:
If you're referring to the color scheme side of things, that's minor. Security features that are available on my current mail app that isn't available on this one is a major cause for concern for me. Going through the settings, the discovery part didn't come up with anything.

Would that be a new passcode that I can setup? On Nine, I have a 4-digit code separate from the one I use to unlock my phone with.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail currently supports biometrics authentication only.

Note that this is an extra security layer only and not a replacement of your device's security. The fact is that apps never can protect themselves as good as the device is protected.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
General note: I get lots of features requests, some useful, some bizarre. However, the number of features requests and the number of purchases and donations are out of balance. I will keep working on FairEmail, but the pace will be slower to keep it a fun project for me. There were also some complaints about too many updates, which is another reason to slow down.

Maybe I should just sell FairEmail, like so many other email clients were sold and turned into evil tracking and advertising monsters. Just kidding! But there is also a message in this.
[Android Apps and Games] misquia:
Right, the app passcode was always meant for that extra layer of security, coupled along with the 'erase data after x amount of failed attempts' option.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Also because this was asked more often for, I have put this on my to do list, but be sure to read my previous remark too.
[Android Apps and Games] misquia:
Good to know! Don't let me or others get you down, I'm just doing providing some honest feedback from how I see it. Please keep up the fantastic work, you're doing great with this app. :D
[Android Apps and Games] cpu2910:
Option: Not mark as read?

Hi Marcel,

what about the promised option?

I can't find it in the newest release...

I would be very useful (to me), if expanded messages on the mobile will not be marked as read, so I don't overlook them on the PC.

BTW: Best email-App ever!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Which promised options?

You can disable marking messages read in the advanced account settings (so, this is per account).