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[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
In Thunderbird, for example, a correctly separated signature from others is recognized as such, displayed pale (see screenshot 1) and therefore not automatically quoted when replying.

With the mail from FairEmail, however, this automatic recognition fails (see screenshot 2) - no idea why.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
As far as I know there is no standard for signatures, but maybe you can surprise me by sending me a message from Thunderbird with a signature.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Yeh, but most email clients follow RFC-3676 which defines a signature tag as "-- \n"
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Most of my mails to you came from Thunderbird, e.g. the one with Message-ID: <5D57EC41.1090200@gmx.de> and have a correctly separated signature with my coordinates, which is of course pale in Thunderbird.

If I read gc01 like this, the only thing missing from the FE mails might be the '\n' after '-- '?
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Don't for get the space between the 2nd dash and the newline. 2 dashes, space, newline is the standard tag.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Yes, I have corrected this in my posting.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Assumed was just a typo as the space seems to be what started this discussion.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Maybe I am overlooking it, but I don't see anything about signature in RFC3676.

In which paragraph is this defined? Edit, I guess section 4.3.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Point 4.3.:

There is a long-standing convention in Usenet news which also

commonly appears in Internet mail of using "-- " as the separator

line between the body and the signature of a message.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The problem is that this standard applies to plain/text messages only, while most messages are html formatted these days. I could simply strip the last paragraph starting with DASH DASH SP on reply/forward, but there is a risk things will be stripped that shouldn't be stripped. Also, the question is what the last paragraph is when a message is html formatted.

I am also afraid that people are not going to understand that DASH DASH SP is used to separate the signature from the message in case the receiving email client doesn't support this.

So, if you want to use this, just start the signature with DASH DASH SP and accept that on reply/forward the signature is replied/forwarded too.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Just updated to 1.669 and this time 'about' immediately showed 1.669 correctly without my needing to reboot.

Just FYI.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
While the RFC speaks to text only, in practice its pretty common to use HTML in the signature itself on lines subsequent to the separator.

However, the separator tag remains the same "-- \n".

As for what the email client should do - I really don't have strong views, but following what Thunderbird does would be pretty reasonable choice as would do nothing.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am already busy implementing this, so stay tuned.

I don't see in the standard that there needs to be a newline, just DASH DASH SP.

"There is a long-standing convention in Usenet news which also commonly appears in Internet mail of using "-- " as the separator line between the body and the signature of a message. When generating a Format=Flowed message containing a Usenet-style separator before the signature, the separator line is sent as-is. This is a special case; an (optionally quoted or quoted and stuffed) line consisting of DASH DASH SP is neither fixed nor flowed."
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Yeh - however, It is "the separator line between the body and the signature" - which means the newline is really a part of the separator in order to make it a "line".

Certainly that's how pretty much everyone reads this.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.670 1.671

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds a send option to use/decode Usenet style signatures [MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] [MENTION=10036357]gc01[/MENTION] can you please check if this works as expected. Note that you need to remove the "-- " from your signature(s) if you enable this option because FairEmail will adds this too.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
With a mail written with FairEmail it works so far with the signature separator within FairEmail, the signature is also not quoted when replying with FE.

BUT: Outside FairEmail, the signature separator is still not automatically recognized correctly, e.g. by Thunderbird. And FE does not yet recognize the correct signature separators of other people who have written them with other mail clients (which is correct recognized by Thunderbird) -> their signatures will then be quoted when replying and quoting with FE.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please send me a message with a signature from Thunderbird that is not recognized by FairEmail. Alternatively, send me example EML files.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Thank you - happy to check once there is a play store version released.

Ack on removing "-- \n" from sigs.
[Android Apps and Games] flocke000:
I just got the update to 1.661 on F-Droid. I don't know how many updates have been released here since, but I just wanted to give some feedback and tell you that I love the new card UI. Keep up the good work ?
[Android Apps and Games] Nordlicht_13:
Leave E-Mail unread

Hello Marcel,

it would be nice to have the option to

leave an email unread when you read it.

Best option would be to mark an message

read after x seconds or never.

I just look into my emails on my phone and

want them unread until I get back into the

office.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a menu item to mark messages unread again and you can enable double tap to mark read/unread in the settings. I have no plans to add anything else.
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
I moved one email in a conversation to the trash. When I opened the bin folder, it showed me the entire conversation, making it seem like the entire thing had been trashed. When I toggled off conversation view, it correctly showed only the deleted message in the bin. Bug, right?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A conversation consists of all related messages independent of the folder. The trash folder is just a folder, so this is the expected behavior. I am not planning to make an exception for this, also because it would have a performance impact.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Thank you for the latest changes related to the signature separator. Here are my trial results: Mails with correctly separated signatures from others are correctly recognized in FE and therefore not quoted when replying. However, this only works with ONE Sig. If there should be two signatures, e.g. one from the sender and another one additionally automatically e.g. from a mailing list, only the last one (here from the ML) is not quoted, while the first one is still quoted. Thunderbird, on the other hand, automatically recognizes ALL signatures, makes them pale (see screenshot 1), and therefore does not cite both of them when answering.

For mails from FE Thunderbird still doesn't recognize the signature correctly and automatically. It is therefore displayed in the same way as the body (see screenshot 2) and would also quote when replying.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please send me the EML files of the message for which signature recognition doesn't work.

FairEmail removes the last signature only to not risk too much of the message. Recognizing "-- " might be an old standard, but it certainly is not a good standard because "-- " might be used for other reasons too.
[Android Apps and Games] TheMadRuffian:
There is a huge blank space where the 3 button navigation bar would be. As far as I have noticed, it is happening only in the unified inbox. Otherwise, there is still a small blank space reserved for the navigation gesture bar. Is it possible it make the gesture bar seamless with the app interface seamless like recent updates to other google apps? I tested this on Android 10 beta 6.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure what you mean because there was never a navigation action bar in the unified inbox. If you mean the space at the bottom, this should appear at the end of the list only and is to make sure the floating action button is not covering part of the last message.

I have already looked into edge-to-edge display, but besides that there is no API to enable/disable this per view, it will be ugly if a view with an action bar, like for example the conversation view, has edges and other views without an action bar, like for example the unified inbox, has no edges. In other words, this app is not suitable for this.
[Android Apps and Games] wirdSchoon:
For example, you could place (in the Swipe menu) delete and spam to the right, and if you move to the left, the mail will be treated as unread again.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is already possible, just go into the account settings to change this.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Even when replying in FairEmail, the line with the signature separator is removed in the current test mail, but not the signature itself.

In the mail in question, the space after the two dash is missing (so I didn't send the EML file now).

Therefore, it is probably important that the signature separator is really all alone on a line, then it can actually have no other meaning. In this respect, the '\n' at the end could already be important.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released beta

stable

version 1.672 1.673

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

[MENTION=7350063]fraschi51[/MENTION] can you please try again?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
In TB now, with mails from FE V 1.672, everything is wonderful: The signature is recognized automatically and is not quoted when answering - great!

But when replying in FairEmail it is still the case that the line with the signature separator is removed, but not the signature itself.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please send me the EML file of the message for which the signature itself is not being removed.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
To the translators: please translate the English text as-is and don't add things.

If you think the English text needs to be changed, please let me know.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Even the additional space steps at the beginning of the lines have now disappeared with the V 1.672! Also with V 1.671!

I have corrected my translation. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Nordlicht_13:
Now I have the latest Github-Version (1.673) on my phone.

But now the colors are not show up in the notification-bar.

I have three accounts with different colors that are displayed in the app but not in the notification-bar like before with the f-droid-version.

When I slide one of the notification away, the other notification from the other accounts also disappears.

Another problem is, that when you tab on a notification it brings you to the global input and not to the account.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There has recently nothing been changed to notifications. Note that account colors is a pro feature.

Notifications always open the unified inbox by design.
[Android Apps and Games] Nordlicht_13:
I use the pro feature and the colors are just in the app and not in the notification.

Wouldn't it be better, when you have separate notification for each account to

get the inbox form that account you taped on to be opened.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Account colors in notifications work for me.

Note that Android might choose not to show colors when there are notifications with conflicting colors.

I think tapping on a notification should always go to the same place, the unified inbox, where all unread messages are.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I think that if you have separate notifications for each account, tapping one should go to the inbox of that account - but then the other notifications should remain visible.

Personally I would even prefer that tapping a notification with only one message would open that message directly.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Tapping on a single message notification (you'll need to expand the summary notification for this) will open the conversation the message is part of.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There can be notifications for messages in different folders of an account, so this is not consistently possible.
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
Then what about an indicator or grey text showing which message are the deleted ones? Now that I think of it, I don't actually mind seeing the entire conversation thread because it immediately provides context. Otherwise you'd have to go to the relevant folder and search for that specific conversation again.
[Android Apps and Games] Nordlicht_13:
The Colors in the notification now work on my phone too.

I installed Fair-Email from the scratch without importing the saved settings.

I had not the unified inbox selected to show at the start, I have the "Merged Folders".

Tabbing on the notification then brings you to the merged folders and you have to

thing on which account the email just came in.

Update:

Now I got two mails on one of my accounts and the color is gone again.

So it' working with one mail and not with more mails.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Trashed message are already shown dimmed in conversations.
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
This could well be because Thunderbird only changes color shading on sigs when the sig is pure text - if the sig is HTML it correctly leaves it alone.

So I suspect that TB is recognizing the sig but leaving it as dictated by the HTML.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail will recognize DASH DASH SPACE NEWLINE signatures both in plain text and HTML formatted messages in any case.
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Hello Marcel,

Weird thing but not important: in the main window, the font size in the upper part of the screen (showing either Messages or Conversations) is bigger in portrait mode than in landscape.

Maybe could you use the same?

It will be great with a little font size and if you can move slightly the text to the left toward the hamburger, all the text could appear (for languages that uses longer strings than English).

Thanks.

La Globule
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Android is showing it like this ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 1.674

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Please report any problem you discover.
[Android Apps and Games] kuba-orlik:
Swipe problems

Swipe gesture does not work on some messages. I'd post a video, but the site won't let me (even with an external link)

(Btw, why does a project of this size use a single thread on xda for reporting issues? It's a nightmare trying to figure out whether or not my issue has been reported, etc :crying:)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
What do the messages have in common?

Be aware that you cannot swipe a message to a folder the message is already stored into. Other exceptions are the outbox and read-only folders.

Also, make sure you have set a swipe targets for the account the message is part of.

Identified issues are mostly solved the same or next day, so you'll never have to search far. GitHub issues are disabled on all my projects because they are too frequently being misused.
[Android Apps and Games] kuba-orlik:
It in fact seems that swipe only works for messages from one specific account

How can I set up swipe targets?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Setup > Manage accounts > tap account > select right/left swipe target
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Swipe does not work when you are in a thread (conversation mode on)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Did you already try to reduce the number of folder to synchronize to 10 ?
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
OK I cleared app data, uninstalled the app, and re-installed it and setup my account from scratch. Not syncing any folders other than the ones that are synced by default (INBOX, Drafts, etc.) Will keep it like that for a bit, and add in folders as the day goes on.

Edit: still having folders that don't show messages regardless, even though they have messages from today in them. Does not seem to matter how many folders I'm syncing. :(
[Android Apps and Games] Sas-3:
[MENTION=2799345]M66B[/MENTION] Just to clarify, is the encryption-feature postponed, or removed completely?

Thx sas
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Encryption was removed because I found myself spending a lot of time implementing encryption for maybe a handful of people. I might add it back when there are more people using/supporting FairEmail.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The latest version seems to be pretty stable.

Are there any remarks on this version?
[Android Apps and Games] Sas-3:
Okay fair enough, I am using it myself for some mails but if the user experience was more straight forward, perhaps more people would start using it.

Perhaps you make encryption an addon pro feature; I've already donated that weekend and would be willing to pay some more for a hassle free implementation in my new favourite mail client ?

Thx marcel and best regards,

Stefan/sas
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Yes, it is stable !

Let's get a public stable release and rate it 5 stars on GPlay :p
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
So, what is not straight forward? In fact this hurts because everything is as simple as it can be and you everybody has been invited dozens of times to provide feedback. Such remarks let me think to stop development right away ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
It doesn't seem to be straightforward yet ...
[Android Apps and Games] Sas-3:
Sorry you got me wrong: I ment it IS/WAS well implemented in fairemail and now is dropped... :good:
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Hey, don't! Maybe some people need to get used to it, coming from their older email app they want yours to be exactly the same. Me, I loved it since the first version I installed and it is only getting better. I love the minimalist design and behaviour. I'm already waiting for your calendar app with self-hosted storage :D
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
Sent a log, had an error deleting a draft message

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Okay, you meant encryption.

Encrypting/decrypting messages with OpenPGP is simple, which was why I added it in a early stage. However, sending a properly formatted encrypted message appeared to be a lot more complicated and I have yet to find a standard where this is described properly. I don't like guess work or reverse engineering other apps, which might not follow the standards correctly themselves.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks. This is the reply I sent:
[Android Apps and Games] Sas-3:
I think I had this error, too when swiping a draft to trash or archive? in my gmail-account. Perhaps it is related to the fact, that these items show up in the "all emails-folder" within gmail?

edit: I could replicate the error and sent a log
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
All emails are in the Gmail all emails folder. This is normal.

The odd thing is I cannot reproduce this issue. Anyway, apparently this happens with some providers in some circumstances, so I am going to change trash draft from move to trash to delete permanently (with a question if you are sure about that).

Edit: I just go another report of the same problem. Maybe Gmail changed something.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

beta

version 0.38

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

This version adds support for signatures. You can configure a signature in an account (so, you don't have to enter a signature for each linked identity). Signatures is a pro feature.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In the most recent versions the setup has been simplified. Are there any comments on this?
[Android Apps and Games] Namnodorel:
Better now :) I still got a couple of ideas regarding interface/button placement and such if you're interested though
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please share.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
What exactly are "local contacts"?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please see this FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq84
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks. Sorry should have checked FAQ before
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Don't worry, as a result of your comment I have added "Local contact information is based on names and addresses found in incoming and outgoing messages" to the FAQ as a clarification.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have just released

stable

version 1.675 "Lingwulong"

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This is mainly to fix this issue, which I didn't understood correctly earlier:
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Never ending story. My rules:

Friday 18:00 til Saturday 23:00 - - one match Friday 18:50

Friday 18:00 til Sunday 23:00 - - no match

?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have created a similar situation and both rules match the same message, so this works for me.

Maybe this is caused by differences in Android versions?
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
Mmh, effect is account independent. What can I do?
[Android Apps and Games] jaholm:
I will do.

More info: if till date is Sunday email from Friday last week was found.

If till date is Saturday emai from Friday of the current week is found
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Android 10 and Swipe right menu for settings etc.

With Android 10 out shortly, and it's required use of gestures - I wonder how this intersects with FE's use.

It probably makes sense to add the swipe-right-menu in FE (the one with settings etc) to the hamburger menu on top as well to avoid conflicts with system swipe.

I have not tested FE on Android 10 (i didn't do the beta this time and I don't have a Android 10 simulator for FE either). Perhaps this is fully accounted for already.

It may also impact the use of swipe actions for messages as well?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No worries, I am using FairEmail on Android 10 for months already ...
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
Hah - nice.

Kinda thought you'd be ahead of this . thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] gc01:
1) Conversation Mode and Trash

I have deleted many emails - but for some reason they keep showing in conversation mode on the Account Inbox - very counter-intuitive.

(My non-tech test subject thinks it doesn't make sense to her)

I think it's fine to show reply messages from the Sent folder (though I'd be fine without those too) but I think things from Trash should definitely not be shown. I don't feel strongly about keeping messages moved to other folders - but anything in Trash should only be visible when you specifically go to the Trash folder - it's special.

(version is 1.675)

2) Gmail webapp has an option to make "default reply" either reply or reply-all -this might be worth considering for the float reply (which one needs long press vs short) - could make more people happier?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Showing trashed messages in conversations has advantages and disadvantages. You can always decide to permanently delete a trashed message if you don't want it to show up in a conversation. Also, how often does this situation occur?

Note that there is now a setting to permanently delete drafts on discard.

I prefer to let the floating reply button have a consistent function without any settings.