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[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Maybe the wrong thread to post but has anyone looked into live migration of Android? I would love to (am testing currently) how to do this and work around the "device is busy" issue I have now. I'm looking at a minimal ION recovery build to migrate to so that updated images can be pulled then migrate the user back to the updated version. I was kind of hoping to just do it but I could use some help. From there, my goal is to interface data.img to an update-- ensuring ION > Hero and vice versa compatibility as well. Who's good at this? I've got pieces figured out, just need another brain to help me pull it all together. Cyanogen and Jesusfreke have things like this out there and we can do more with our 'disposable' setups. I think everything but the kernel should be able to be instantly dropped in and my long term goal is an apt/emerge style updater.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
I can not seem to get wired headset audio to work. I've tried booting with the headphones plugged in but it just keeps playing through the internal speaker. It was patched several months ago but did it not get continued in new kernels?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Are you using normal mini-USB headphones? Because those won't work, you need to have headphones with the special "HTC" adapter.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
I was able to use a standard headset adapter back in March when it was first patched. Had mine shipped from Hong Kong and it was definately not an HTC product.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
Weird... I'm pretty sure I can't even use standard mini-USB headphones in WinMo! :/
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
I find this displeasing. Does anyone have what was patched to enable it? Maybe I can look into it a little.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
So not sure where this issue belongs, but I feel like its deeper than my system image. I am using Zen's xRom and my sleep button is for some reason making my backlight go to 100 percent brightness. The widgets won't change it, and when I make it less in settings, it just reverts when my phone goes to sleep.

Making the red button only go back, fixes the issue but does not allow me to lock the phone. Any ideas?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Ok, seems that my Radioshack-special headphone adapter does not work with WinMo either. Disregard my last posts. Too bad my CD player jammed in my car the other day.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
On my kaiser i used the standard (non-htc) usb to headphone adapter with noc problems for months, now i have a new on (with two adapters) and it works, too. The only thing i need to do is:

android must be out of standby

no audio should be on

When i then plug the headphone in it works perfect, if i plug it in while playing audio or while android is in standby it will use the internal speakers.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Maybe because I just wanted a headset to work so I got a crappy mini audio to normal adapter too. I didn't care about it since I'd hide it in my car but maybe that was the issue. Guess I'll Ebay another $8 one from Hong Kong and see then.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Here that is the one i used before (but it got lost :-( ):

http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Adapt...r_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=apparel&qid=1252048449&sr=8-4

and this is the one i got no (great in car cause you can use the one adapter to connect to your radio and the other to load the phone:

http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Audio-Hea..._26?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1252048625&sr=8-26
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Thanks, I was looking at one of those splitters. The review made me lulz:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
accidental post..
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
there is a new basefiles.zip file being uploaded to google code. Support all new builds based on squashfs and all old builds based on cramfs. To keep all things equal we will be making the rootfs detect kaiser or vogue builds and enabling or disabling wifi accordingly. We're really trying to get all the rootfs/kernel stuff back to one base set of files and hosted on google code.

It seems the new base files I uploaded use the old button configuration, with all the new support. It wasn't on purpose, we (pmos) and I are looking into a user selectable way of doing it..

I will post the 'new' keymap zimage to google code in the morning.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
Can you push any changes to the rootfs/initrd here:

http://github.com/vilord/android-initrd/

Ask Jesse (vilord) for access if you don't have it already,

Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
totally, I'll forward that to pmos who was doing the changes.

small update to base files package uploading, includes a zimageoldbuttons and zimagenewbuttons, just rename whichever layout you like to zimage. Also this is the first step to making builds generic to both kaiser and vogue devices, there's no need to change the builds, the rootfs will autodetect which phone you have and work accordingly when it's finished.

I also make a new thread specifically for the rootfs, all kernel related stuff should stay in this thread.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
rolf, wrong thread, sorry.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bchi49:
Bluetooth A2DP T505 mssmisonpackage.zip 9/5/2009

Anyone got Bluetooth T505 working with mssmisonpackage.zip 9/5/2009 or the latest basefiles.zip 9/6/2009 12pm? I never got it working fully before? the closest I got was playing music but it stops 2-3 times a second.

Also, the camera don't work anymore. I'm using the Vogue/Touch device.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
camera app is pulled for now, it doesn't play nice with the newer builds. It's a work in progress.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bchi49:
thanks for the update.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
use "pro paint camera" from market, works great
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bchi49:
Thanks! It works!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] craig0r:
I can confirm that I don't get phone-audio through my T505 with Zenulator's xROM port. I haven't tried media-audio through it. I wouldn't be too concerned about it right now, there's still a LOT of work needed on bluetooth in general.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
HTC Tatoo

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1997&view=1&c=htc_tattoo_htc_click_100

lists the kernel as 2.6.27

(don't know where that info came from)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] arleybarros:
vogue-hero on Nike

Hi there, i'm testing vogue-hero builds on Nike, and as i sayd to pmos69, it works just great, of course there's no wifi and gps, but everythig else, including sms and exchange, works fine.

the only issue, is that when the phone vibrates (any kind of vibration), the touchscreen stop working (heave to restart) but i still can use with the hardware buttons.

I'm posting this just in case of anyone heave the interest to correct this and make a oficial release for this device.

Thanks a lot, and congratulations!

i found a video where the guy heave the same problem, but he don't know that is the vibration the problem (4:22).

i don't heave any of the other errors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ze_4DITTw8&feature=fvw
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
Talking CyanogenMod - This Donut smells like JET FUEL! (EXPERIMENTAL) [9/8 - v4.1.6]

CHANGELOG

---- v4.1.6

* BIG PERFORMANCE INCREASE! CFS/Cgroups are out, BFS is in!

So...anyone think we can get this in our kernel?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
BFS itself is under testing, but besides that, it was tricky to backport to 2.6.29.

I can only imagine how it would be for 2.6.25...

Not saying I wouldn't like to see it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
something to look into
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Magister2k7:
If you look closer at BFS, you'll see that it's performance is better only on multi-processor systems, so I don't think it will help us much.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
Teoretically, but tests are scarse and Cyanogen, who ported it to his custom android kernel reports very good results.

There's a big "rash" between current CFS and BFS going on anyway. A lot of politics involved also.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
I've spoken with DZO already regarding this. He (and I) agree that BFS won't give us a performance increase over squash. I was thinking perhaps when we get a rom but not before than.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
Its a different BFS.

Its not the Boot FilesSystem, but the "Brain **** Scheduler".

Its a Linux task scheduler in direct competition with the currently used one: CFS - Completely Fair Scheduler. (by Ingo Molnar).

Its the return of one of linux's old hackers (Con Kolivas) and it's generating a hell of a thunderstorm.

(A lot of politics and bad blood involved also)

One big problem: It was tricky to port (by Cyanogen) even to the 2.6.29 kernel.

http://slashdot.org/story/09/09/06/0433209/Con-Kolivas-Returns-With-a-

http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/Con-Kolivas-Introduces-New-BFS-Scheduler
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
Here's the patch against 2.6.31...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dzo:
This kernel is only for devices with MSM7X00 CPUs, other HTC phones will not boot.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vimafeje:
ok, tank's

i'm searching here: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/ a kernel for my trinity.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] njakobs:
Great update DZO can't wait for the real thing.

Everything works fine except no vibrate on received sms

LOL right about crash with more that two notifications. How do you clear them?

Cheers
[Touch CDMA Android Development] roxorz:
what the heck still won't load and i'm on the 3.37 radio
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
Testing on my Verizon Wireless Touch (xv6900). Observations:

Keyboard

+ New keyboard works amazingly! I can literally type using my fat thumbs!

- Sad to see that haptic is gone now.

~ I like how the keys on the keyboard highlight and offset when touched. If I may make a suggestion: could they offset to the upper left, with more of an exagerated offset to allow me to see what I am pressing? My photoshopped idea of what that would look like:

Data Connection

+ Data connection lasting much longer.

+ First time I have been able to get a data connection without having a pre-existing one in WM6.

- Upload/Download Aarows are missing now?

- data connection still dies and does not reconnect. Does not seem time related, but rather once I have reached some amount of bandwidth?

SMS Service

+ SMS sends/recieves

- SMS Fields are not labeled...

Top Field is message

Bottom Field is MTN#

*entering text into the MTN# field causes the program to crash and I cannot force quit

Charging Port

~ Not sure if phone is charging, nothing indicates that it is/not

If you enter text into the number field, it causes it to freeze.

DZO, thanks again for all of your hard work on this. I literally check your site for updates daily! Keep it up.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ibri:
Unfortunately it seems it will no longer boot on my Sprint Touch either :( I click Run in HaRET and it shows the HaRET: Booting Linux... progress window, and it looks like it gets to 100%, but it doesn't go any further :(
[Touch CDMA Android Development] roxorz:
exact same thing i'm getting
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
Strange you guys aren't able to run this on your sprint touch, because my understanding is the sprint hardware was the same as my VZW hardware. I don't know if it makes a difference, but when I loaded the new files, I also downloaded the new config and diffs files.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] swatspyder:
Works on my sprint touch...

I am using the maps application after a soft reset.

Data works for a little bit but then stops pulling data after about 2 minutes or so.

Calls are also unable to be dialed... SMS message failed to send or receive.

Replaced zimage, initrd, default, .config and I am running it from internal memory, not the SD card.

HTC Sprint Touch

ROM version 1.12.651.1

Radio version 2.13.00

H/W version 0001

PRI version 1.33_003
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wmvdg123:
Great update! Works well on my sprint touch:)

-Data now works without a preexisting connection. If you have a preexisting connection the green "G" works and if you don't the "G" doesn't but you still get data. The username and password fields don't make a difference now. Web browsing is smoother. It times out in about 2-3 minutes.

-Calls and sms work fine

-I like the SMS notification. More than two does cause it to freeze. Any chance we could have a notification for missed calls?

-The changes to the keyboard make it much easier to use.

-I'm running from my card.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] itsallsubliminal:
this is absolutely PHENOMENAL! I can't wait til u get it working to the fullest!

I don't know anything about development, but i followed the steps in post #1 and it worked like a charm... but i did not add the .config file... what will/does that do?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] brynhewko:
Working on Telus Touch

I gave android a try on my Telus touch today and it seems to be running great! Nice work! I can't send or receive SMS yet, but I am sure that this just has something to do with being on telus...

Other then that, data connection works great. I did web browsing and google maps. I have made and received calls too!

I will be watching this thread closely for updates. Any word yet on when Android will be released? I've heard second half of 08...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wmvdg123:
I should add that the data seems to be working throughout the day. I've been using it all day and even though I started without a preexisting data connection it has been fine. I don't think its dialing in, just keeps the connection active. Which is fine by me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ipod69:
seems decent my data doesnt work on bell though
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wmvdg123:
push the side button that normally activates the camera.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mike171562:
Titan

Anyone got this to work on the mogul I can only get to where the red line bounces back and forth from left to right, I never get to a GUI. I just noticed that when I press the camera button I get a flickering keyboard
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bombzhome:
Apparently the Mogul doesn't have enough RAM. There has to be some sort of SD Drivers so we can use that instead of the internal RAM of the Mogul.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] unsungboxer:
I know this isn't related to Android Development, but I found some functionality on the Global time app that I did not realize was there.

Open your virtual keyboard (currently camera button)

-hit "L" key to toggle on the city lights.

-hit spacebar to overlay an analog clock.

-scroll through analog clock using up/down volume keys.

source: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/05/androidglobaltime.html

If you guys are like me, I like to show off android to people at work, the 3D globe is a real eye pleaser. enjoy!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] roxorz:
i really wish i could get this to work again.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Aaron McCarthy:
I have everything up and working fine on my Telus Touch I just have a quick question about google maps in adroid.

When you install google maps in WM6 you have the option of the "find me" or whatever its called using aGPS... when your driving it gives you up to date tracking etc more or less.. becomes a GPS program without using GPS... although I have a gps reciever and it connects to that to. Does this version do that at all? I cant seem to find the find me menu on it. Logic would dictate that no it doesnt include that feature yet but I just thought I'd ask in case I was missing something
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Yeah I know it's the other one :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
tatoo yourself

:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0nVyjcoGzE
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
definitely a better touch keyboard:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
hey guys im using the latest mssmison package with the latest jac xrom and its running pretty solid. Thanks for making my vogue alot better!! my question is, is gps supposed to work automatically or do i install something? or is it not supported? im using an verizon xv6900 with nfsfan 6.5 v15 rom. also, is there any way to have the hero widgets work or look alike widgets? i cant find much in the market. Thanks again
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derringdo:
Didn't older versions of Android on the Vogue have that same HTC keyboard (compact QWERTY/QWERTY) in addition to the Android keyboard? I see that the recent versions (e.g. the ones after switching to squashFS) only have the default Android keyboard. You used to be able to disable the built-in Android keyboard and use the nicer HTC one instead, unless I'm somehow missing something...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
yes gps should work if you already have it unlocked in windows
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bensmiller:
keyboard

well that seems to be the keyboard that is used in the xrom though I had trouble going into settings and switching it it wouldnt change from the android keyboard but then I was like hey and long pressed on a txt field and changed it that way cause I like the compact qwerty and presto much better keyboard.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derringdo:
Ah ha, I see. For some reason it wouldn't switch to the HTC keyboard until I long-pressed on a text field and chose "touch input" under input method instead of Android keyboard. Cool!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
yep, that's the way to work it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bchi49:
HTC Tattoo looks fast, and it's resistive type of screen, and QVGA 320x240 and it contains the HTC Sense items. That ROM would be a better port to Vogue/Touch compared to Hero.

http://www.htc.com/www/product/tattoo/specification.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvnlcEt6dG4
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
no need to post in two threads, we all read both this thread and the google ion thread. does look promising though, we've all been waiting for this.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derringdo:
Any idea when the improvements from this rom show up on the Vogue? Someone posted in the comments section that they already have it running on their Vogue, so is it already incorporated into our roms? Apparently there's a huge speed difference, at least on the Hero. Maybe our phones will benefit from it too?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
It's already in the latest zenulator hero builds.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] derringdo:
Oh interesting. Could you point out where to get it from? I've just been following the Google Code download page and I don't see a zenulator build there. I'm using the latest JAC xRom, does that contain the speed fixes?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
i'll put it up at vogue-android for easier access. and this is the kernel thread now. general discussion isn't supposed to be going on here unless it's related to the kernel.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Maybe this isn't a kernel thing and more of a programming thing but in regards to the Android VNC server being developed, is there a way we could somehow translate X11 calls to the framebuffer and then maybe put a different flavor of Linux (Debian) as the base?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
The "flavor" we use for the linux userland tools is basically busybox.

Using "normal" gnu useland tools seems a bit heavy on an embedded device such as these phones.

Just my 2c.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Busybox is just a toolset though and I know what we have now is a very minimal one meant just to launch Android but I think it would be nice if we could develop it a little further.

I know (at least back when I could) that running Debian is trivial to memory. From someone better than me:

http://brad.livejournal.com/2400054.html

and LXDE on Debian on Android.

I still never figured out how to get around the (new) bus error when trying to chroot though. I'd love to apt-get while downloading from Market..
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
Those are userland tools. You're free to compile and use them. Nothing too difficult about that. You're free to keep the current kernel and replace busybox if you want.

They are not exactly what's needed or very convenient to use on a phone. That's the reason busybox was created and does a great job.

Might as well remote access a decent system from your phone if you want a full linux distribution...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] enatefox:
Well, the reason I ask besides being able to run Firefox seamlessly in Android is to be able to chroot to a temporary image so I can continue working on an app that would allow us to update builds kind of like Cyanogen and JesusFreke have. Unless it's a zImage update then maybe just force Android to reboot and not the whole phone. Unfortunately, chroot doesn't seem to work anymore and if it was in a more friendly (to me) environment I could maybe debug it better. Keeping it related to the thread, is it a kernel issue with chroot support or should I be looking at something else?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] femmyade2001:
android 1.6 won't boot

I'm trying the system-cmsdk.img file, and it keeps failing to mount. I used the required base files (basefiles-20090915.zip). I tried renameing the img file to system.img, and i even left he file name unedited too. I get the error:

Failed to mount /system

/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off

/ #

Any suggesions, please?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
name the system-cmsdk.img to system.sqsh. i accidentally named it the wrong image type.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] femmyade2001:
Thanks, zen. It worked perfect. I noticed that it was missing android market, though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
The new (donut) market will be launched in October.

Its being completely revamped but is not available yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ma9Xh67Eyo&hd=1
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmos69:
And her's another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_BLXHBhTq0&hd=1
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cointelbro:
Can someone explain what the MDDI clock is and what a good setting for it is? I remember dzo posted his personal settings for it a while back, but I can't find them.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Soon, I'll have a build out with the new market ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
how did you get the new market working?

Nevermind i figured it out. It's uploaded to vogue-android now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] femmyade2001:
Daaaamn, i'm loving the new market! this is soo coool. My only problem right now is that my google contacts wont sync! My mail and calendar sync though...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zenulator:
It will get sorted out soon. Mean while post in the Vogue-Donut thread. This thread is supposed to be for kernel related subjects.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lubenoit:
Yes, it take years to make crappy windows mobile and still is, It needs a real competitor.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cointelbro:
apparently google contacts is down systemwide right now
[Touch CDMA Android Development] canyoufindben:
They're back now.