yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Honor 7X  Questions & Answers] Tweetytek:
My TWRP is failing to create a nandroid. Appears to complain about a file: /data/misc/bluedroid/jRE44lYnDrC62LWViXPkgC

Yet, when I go into /data/misc/bluedroid , on the phone, using root explorer, /data/misc/bluedroid is there but its empty

I'm using TWRP v3.2.1.0, on an Honor 7X BND-AL10

Any ideas?

recovery.log:

...
...
I:addFile '/data/misc/bluedroid/jRE44lYnDrC62LWViXPkgC' including root: 0
==> set selinux context: u:object_r:bluetooth_data_file:s0
I:Error adding file '/data/misc/bluedroid/jRE44lYnDrC62LWViXPkgC' to '/external_sd/TWRP/BACKUPS/A5RNW18426003196/2018-07-22--05-56-25_havoc_hi6250-userdebug_810_OPM4171019021P1/data.f2fs.win'
Error creating backup.
I:ERROR tarList for thread ID 0
Error creating backup.
I:InfoManager saving '/external_sd/TWRP/BACKUPS/A5RNW18426003196/2018-07-22--05-56-25_havoc_hi6250-userdebug_810_OPM4171019021P1/data.info'
createTarFork() process ended with ERROR: 255
Backup Failed. Cleaning Backup Folder.
I:Copying file /tmp/recovery.log to /external_sd/TWRP/BACKUPS/A5RNW18426003196/2018-07-22--05-56-25_havoc_hi6250-userdebug_810_OPM4171019021P1/recovery.log
[Honor 7X  Questions & Answers] steven360:
Probably because your phone is encrypted. Not sure how this would affect backups but that's my best guess.
[Honor 7X  Questions & Answers] Tweetytek:
Not to my knowledge, it is not encrypted
[Honor 7X  Questions & Answers] steven360:
It probably is encrypted. If you're on a ROM, you should be able to check in the "security" section in the settings app. Not sure how to do it en EMUI. To decrypt, follow this.

YOU NEED ROOT TO DO THIS.

---------- Post added at 09:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:06 PM ----------

I dont think you need root to run this command. Try this in terminal emulator app (because stock terminal, if you have one, is garbage) or adb shell. No root needed.

getprop | grep encrypt

It should look like this.
[Honor 7X  Questions & Answers] mumith3:
Dear OP,

Sorry this post supposed to be at Q/A forum.

[MENTION=4393511]matt4321[/MENTION]

Respected mod, please move this thread to respected Q/A forum section.

Regards,
[Honor 7X  Questions & Answers] Tweetytek:
YES! It is encrypted indeed. So, I did what you suggested and the phone was knackered. Could not download anything , could not access much of the internal storage. Got reboots and fc.

I figured out that the /data partition and other locations were not setup correcttly. You cannot decypt by simply doing what you suggested.

My phone , on reboot, bootloops - so thanks for your "help" , grrrrr
[Honor 7X  Questions & Answers] steven360:
Well, I did exactly what the instructions I posted originally said, and they work flawlessly. So, you did something wrong. There is no other explanation. "Grrrrrrrrrrrr."
[Honor 7X  Questions & Answers] Tweetytek:
I can assure you, there is very little to "go wrong" with your instructions.

No, it is very simple to edit the fstab entry and reboot.

And for a start, the vendor partition was mounted read-only (ro) so I had to "mount -o remount,rw /vendor" which you failed to pick up on, and then after the edit set it back to ro.

You also state in your post "Not sure how to do it en EMUI." so how did you do "exactly what the instructions say" on an honor 7x because you were "Not sure" so I take it you dont actually own this phone and therefore could not possibly have "flawlessly" got this working.

Put simply .... I would advise anyone reading this thread NOT to follow the "help" from [MENTION=8339737]crayonicle[/MENTION] on here
[Honor 7X  Questions & Answers] mrmazak:
Well [MENTION=8339737]crayonicle[/MENTION] has directly quoted the method from a correctly working guide. Reading his post the process looks correct.

Quoted from here.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=76980317&postcount=3

I know him and he says he is not sure about on emui, because he is on different rom.

Here is link to yet another guide (this one from honor7x and emui) showing basically same steps.

https://xdaforums.com/honor-7x/deve...ata-emui-8-t3765403/post76029664#post76029664
[Honor 7X  Questions & Answers] steven360:
Thanks! Glad you got your phone to work, but mind keeping the asshole level down?
[Honor 7X  Questions & Answers] Tweetytek:
I think we can.... just stop posting bollocks and the level will go down ?
[Samsung Gear S3] marspoki:
Hello,

I have a Google Pixel 2 and the Gear S3. If I want to set up a call, it takes about 10 seconds until I hear the sound (ringing or voice) on the phone.

Is there a solution for this?? Does anyone have the same problem???

I use Stock Android 8 with current update.

Thank you and best regards marspoki
[Oppo Find X Questions & Answers] rezesius:
Does the Find X support Seamless updates a.k.a A/B Partition layout? Thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] ^^rac:
Hi guys!

Im looking for a version of HTC X Button that is compatible with WM 6.1. The current version i have, worked on WM 5 / 6, but for some or other reason not on WM 6.1, it does not close the programs?

I dont want to use something else, becuase X button take almost no resources etc......

Any ideas?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] emyself:
I have a some error.X-button can run,but can't show at TODAY!(top right corner)

X-button Version: 1.50,1.51,2.0
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] hebigakure:
yea..i want it too.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] sun_dream:
X-button can run,HTC TaskManager2.1 Build31487 For My Hima_ROM
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] hebigakure:
can u give us the cab for the x-button,sundream?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gixermouse:
I've done it before but I can't remember how!

That's what's gonna happen to you kids when you're 47 too! ?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] DarkJoker360:
J5lte variant: https://mega.nz/#!EPAEkQ6Y!aV4XWlL_U1QJRloWa_mebB7lvPaLdOxTpykLpnKWoV4
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] #imavi:
Sir what are the pros and cons of go edition
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Vicka79:
cool!!! ;)
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Ali jouhara:
Thanks man ❤
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] DarkJoker360:
Added j53gxx build !

j5lte will be available in 2-3h, Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] BumblebeeTF:
It would be nice if someday NFC will be fixed. :P
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Vicka79:
please screen shots.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] garylawwd:
It's lineage just Google it or look at the screenshots in the older thread.

Lineage is everywhere :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] BumblebeeTF:
Maybe we want screenshots which will prove that ROM is working. :P
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] garylawwd:
But them screenshots could also just be pulled from Google images or whatever so that's not proof ?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] GatoA:
descargue la ROM y use el TWRP 3.2.1 y me da error 7

intente también con el recobery de lineage y sucede lo mismo

ayuda por favor

es el j500M
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] jann.ry09:
maybe your device is j5lte ..
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] LU SONEVESSO:
The links arent working for me...:crying:
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] garylawwd:
Because you need to manually copy and paste it in to a browser because you are using the phone app :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] LU SONEVESSO:
Ooooh I didnt known that :silly: thank yooou :):D
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] zizomohamed:
rom support arabic language???
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] mkichhoat:
Please check voice on call not working (J500H)

Thanks bro
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Giunta._:
I have the same problem, the rom work perfectly but when I call someone he can't hear me and I can't hear he. Pleas check it

:fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] LU SONEVESSO:
Where's the link for j5lte? It's already available? Just a question
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] DarkJoker360:
Yes, read post 2 ;)
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] garylawwd:
Post #2 is j5nlte not j5lte man :silly:

Edit: I apologise it is for j5lte but it is written in the second post as j5nlte. Sorry about that but it might want to be updated.

Thanks alot
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] leopseft:
Bugs: 1: Phone calls doesnt work. In fact phone makes the call but neither microphone nor speaker work. 2: If you enable software keys instead of hardware keys, the phone after reboot becomes unusable. Power button and touchscreen doesnt work and you need to remove battery. Touchscreen will only work if the power botton works, then you just press it once to turn off the screen then once again to turn it on again and you are able to use it in order to disable the software keys, but the rom is very unstable and laggy untill you disable it and reboot the phone again!!
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] redymedan:
the download links does not works! please re-upload
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] yoni22:
no funcianan los link q suben en todas las rom del j5 -.- suban a otro lado mega no anda
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] madvinegar:
I am experiencing lately an odd bug.

If I leave my s9 plus for some time without messing with it, the fingerprint scanner is not responding. Ofcourse I can just press the power button to open the screen and then the fingerprint scanner works great as it should. I can try to unlock the phone many times after that, and it will work as it should.

This only happens once if I leave the phone idle for a long time.

Anyone else with the same issue? Is there any possibility that the fingerprint scanner is getting into sleep mode...?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] SAproX1:
Yes i'm having this problem with lg v30 Havoc rom.. fingerprint stop working after idle..
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Fullbustah:
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
*/

Android Open Source illusion Project

AOSiP stands for Android Open Source illusion Project. We are an AOSP based custom ROM, twisted with the latest features from all over the Android development community. Quality and stability is our first priority as we are dedicated to bringing you the best Android has to offer.

Team Illusion:

Josh Fox (@xlxfoxxlx)

Paul Clark(@Dabug123)

Akhil Narang(@akhilnarang)

Sri Harsha(@srisurya95)

Sean Grondin

Support/Community:

Full support is always on the top of the list. Visit our AOSiP Google plus community for all your ROM needs. There we have all the latest links to gapps and other helpful communities. Or just stop and engage in off topic fun.

Source code:

AOSiP Github

Device Source

Kernel Source

Downloads:

AOSIP builds

TWRP 3.2.2 (Los treble enabled)

TWRP 3.2.1. (Treble enabled revocery by codeelixir - try this in case with formatting problems)

Installation Instructions:

--> Clean flash (ie, wipe data, system, caches)

--> Flash ROM

--> Flash gapps

--> Flash theme ready gapps (optional)

--> Flash Magisk/SuperSU for root (optional)

Credit/Thanks:

Mike Williams(founder and creator of AOSiP)

Google

Dirty Unicorns

AICP

ABC Rom

Screwd

Omni

Krexus

Cyanogenmod

SlimRoms

ChainFire (SuperSU)

Beanstown106

Cory Collins

Any others I may have forgotten

All our testers​

XDA: DevDB Information

AOSiP, ROM for the Lenovo P2

Contributors

Fullbustah, mikeioannina, highwaystar_ru

Consider donation to support development

Donate via PayPal to mikeioannina

ROM OS Version: 8.x Oreo

ROM Kernel: Linux 3.x

Version Information

Status: Stable

Created 2018-07-24

Last Updated 2018-09-10​
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Fullbustah:
Bugs:

Same as official los15.1 (bt calls)

Fixed:

Face unlock

Gcam working (highwaystar_ru's fix) - tested with OP6-1.2.1-GCam_5.3.015-Pixel3Mod-Arnova8G2

Built with latest sources

Kernel upstreamed to 3.18.116

Should be treble enabled (not tested)

VoLTE working

2018-08-12 build

Built with latest sources

Kernel upstreamed to 3.18.118

August security patch

2018-08-12 build

Latest sources

Kernel upstreamed to 3.18.121

September security patch
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] saikiran001:
bro what is the use of two roms when the one by subham is stable and that is unofficial too?
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Fullbustah:
I guess same as having multiple RR roms. Even tho some are unmaintained still same thing.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] palbadi:
Great ROM

'Treble'-d rom

Magisk 16.7 with custom TWRP

FP gestures are stable

Everything is stable
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] shabab malik:
OMS Support?

And is play store certified?
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Fullbustah:
Yes, subs working and PS is certified with magisk (didn't test it without magisk).
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Fullbustah:
According to my tester, PS should be certified even without magisk.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] shabab malik:
I am currently on Lineage official and f2fs for data. Should i install it on f2fs or i have to format it to ext4.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Fullbustah:
I don't use f2fs, but it should be working. But back up your data in case it doesn't work.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] palbadi:
Yes for both..
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Samanvith:
Is this treble..enabled
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Nextstar:
Yes
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Fullbustah:
Tried havoc gsi
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] shabab malik:
Hi [MENTION=8490867]Fullbustah[/MENTION] are you going to maintain this rom?

I have asked because your previous rom is not updated since a while.

Previous release of Lineage 15.1 have fixed and add many things like call recording. Hope you will maintain and update this rom since it is the only rom based on Mike LineageOS.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] palbadi:
Was it with your aicp vendor??

Fan of Havoc OS. Installed it Redmi Note 3. Make thread please...
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Kielbek:
[MENTION=8490867]Fullbustah[/MENTION], will there be any differences if I flash your GSI or phhusson's one? Have you ever tested it? I know that there should be no differences in theory but I want to know how it is in the practice. I haven't seen any discussions about flashing different GSI's on our forums, only people asking for treble versions of ROMs even when they're already exist for a long time. I'm asking for it because I see that your ROM also have BT Calls bug inherited from Lineage so I'm curious about that. I can't check it myself yet so...

---------- Post added at 05:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:30 AM ----------

Man, you can flash ALL of them (https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list) already after first build of official Lineage. All you need to do is to flash system image with Treble enabled recovery. Why are people so ignorant on this forum.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] palbadi:
Yes I already knew the list and procedure but lazy to try myself. I need confirmation...

Are all those GSI (except P dp4) stable as much as Lineage 15.1? I just need Volte mainly. is it patched in Vendor or system as well?
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] shabab malik:
I too want to know about GSI roms bugs.

I haven't tried GSI yet but wants to try Havoc or Resurrection.

But didn't find any thread what's working or not in lenovo p2.

Hope soon people will flash GSI roms and give review or something so other can flash too since there are so many GSI available.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Kielbek:
They should be as stable as LOS. This ROM uses Lineage vendor image and contain the same bugs as you can see so it is a little bit confirmation for that. That's what Treble project really is. I don't know about volte because I don't have knowledge how extactly it works. For me it is pure software based feature because hey, calling via Skype on LTE network is almost the same, and it should be related to system image of ROM, not vendor image. The only requirement for having working VoLTE is LTE/4G modem and system with proper implementation of this function and of course proper configuration from your operator in phone settings. I don't know why it is a problem with custom ROMs. Maybe I'm just wrong and the feature is related to vendor image but I don't really think so.

---------- Post added at 07:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:58 AM ----------

I could test how it works for you (and me ofc) guys and report then but It's still 9 days for me :(. I'm going to do this ASAP because I'm curious AF and need to confirm this.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Fullbustah:
[MENTION=4487044]shabab malik[/MENTION] I will maintain this rom, but keep in mind that I'm new to android stuff, so I will keep the rom up to date with mike's and aosip's repo, always use newest kernel version. If any fix appear and I will be able to implement it I will do so.
[MENTION=4525023]palbadi[/MENTION] I flashed Havoc GSI from here on top of aosip.

About GSI, check it yourself. I think volte was problem as probably other things, but it could get fixed already. If you just want to try already made oreo roms, its is not worth to wipe your entire device to decrypt it.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] palbadi:
Ok. I will try Havoc after decrypting if I will get time.

Thank you.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] shabab malik:
That would be great.

Please make a separate thread about GSI roms.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] shabab malik:
Hi [MENTION=8490867]Fullbustah[/MENTION] u are currently using Havoc os GSI?

Is there any bug or issue which are not present in Lineage official?
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Fullbustah:
I don't know, flashed GSI just to test functionality of treble and then flashed aosip again. For more information go to havoc gsi thread. But I don't think that GSIs are better than normal roms.

BTW I built and used Havoc based on Mike's trees few weeks before. It has few bugs, like need of touch fp reader every restart to boot in to android (same as early CrDroid oreo builds) and random fc on google apps.
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Fullbustah:
New build is up!
[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] Fullbustah:
New build's up!
[Moto G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Attedz:
Hello everyone :).

In this guide I will explain what is image persistence/how you can prevent it happening in the first place and how you can fix it if your phone suffers from this. This guide applies to all phones that suffers it and will work for rooted and non-rooted devices. I will try to make this guide easy to follow that everyone can understand this. There might be typo errors because English isn't my native language.

Steps to do if your phone is affected by this:

Non-root GUIDE:

Download app called sFilter (or similar) that can apply filter on your device.

In the sFilter app settings enable Blue Light Filter and set Filter opacity to 10%. Set Color of the filter to black. In other filter apps settings are probably similar.

Custom ROM GUIDE:

You can install Custom ROM like LineageOS or Resurrection Remix that have option to calibrate colors.

You need to have unlocked bootloader (GUIDE to unlock bootloader on Motorola phones). You can search on xda for specific guide for your phone. After unlocking bootloader you need to install your preferred Custom ROM. If your device supports Treble project you can look for ROMs here. If you device don't support Treble you can search on xda for other ROMs.

In the Colour calibration settings (maybe different, depends on ROM) put these values:

You can find Colour calibration settings in LineageOS by going Settings --> Display --> LiveDisplay --> Colour calibration

Root GUIDE:

Your device needs to be rooted for this. Also your kernel needs to support KCAL (Most stock kernels don't support this). If your device meets these criterias then continue.

Download app called Color Control. Open the app and allow root permissions if prompted. In the app put these values:

Hit thanks if it helped!:good:

More to read:

How to flash Treble ROM on supported phones

A well explained post about image persistence from Reddit user

Android Authority article about screen burn-in
[Moto G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] stifmaster81:
there are already roms in motorola g 6?

Enviado desde mi moto g(6) mediante Tapatalk
[Moto G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Attedz:
Yes.
[Moto G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] stifmaster81:
Can you put the compatible ROM link for the Motorola g6?

Enviado desde mi moto g(6) mediante Tapatalk
[Moto G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Attedz:
I personally use LineageOS Treble ROM.
[Moto G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] stifmaster81:
In the motorola g 6?

Enviado desde mi moto g(6) mediante Tapatalk
[Moto G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Attedz:
Motorola G6 Plus version. But it will probably work on normal G6 version too. If something fails you can reflash your phone back to stock by following this guide https://xdaforums.com/moto-g6/development/stock-firmware-moto-g6-t3792292

Here is guide how to flash Treble ROM https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/
[Moto G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bluemgt06:
I didn't know this device had image retention issues? LCDs usually don't, it's usually the OLED displays. I had my phone sit on TWRP recovery all night and no image is stuck.
[Moto G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Attedz:
This is common problem on some Moto and LG phones.

LCDs screens don't usually do this but this seems to be issue on Moto & LG phones.

OLED screens don't suffer from image persistence, they can suffers from screen burn-in.
[Moto G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Helacornio:
I have ressurected kernel and kcal keeps crashing , any tips?
[Huawei Mate 10  Questions & Answers] mister_tu:
Just purchased Mate 10 Pro and so far loving the hardware, but the software is letting itself down a bit, but I'm trying to cope.

My one main issue is when connected to Bluetooth audio and receiving a notification of any sort, it lowers the BT volume really low. It takes about 10 seconds for the audio to return to its normal level, whilst missing all the media playback during that time. Is there any way to remedy this?

Is there a shortcut to disable all notifications altogether during media playback (except for google maps)?
[Huawei Mate 10  Questions & Answers] pickupman66:
im not sure it is a bug at all. that is just the way it performs. mine does the same.
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] ostrolk:
Has anyone installed Phoenix OS v3.0.2.451 on an ext4 partition?

I installed it on a dual boot laptop yesterday, on a ext4 partition. I hadn't had time to check it out yet, only know that the default file manager don't see Linux partitions, but see only NTFS partitions. That's not a problem, as I keep most of my data on NTFS partitions, for both Linux and Windows to see (read/write) them.

This is an UEFI system.

It seems pretty snappy.

(I had both Remix OS and Phoenix OS quite sometime ago, but had removed them .)