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[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Hi, with the newest github versions I won't get notifications any more. Is it just me or a general problem?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Nothing was changed to notifications, but I guess this is still a side effect of your previous problem.

Try this: in the miscellaneous settings enable debug mode (last option) and in the debug panel which appears, tap on the repair button.

To others: don't use this if not needed!
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Wow, it's workings again, Marcel. May you want to write what the problem was?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Notifications were probably disabled.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Hm, I don't think so. I am using the fairmail sync tile prominently to quickly toggle fairmails synchronisation. And this was activated...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please long press the inbox in the folder list and make sure notifications are enabled.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am pretty happy myself with the account category headers. I hope they will be useful to some of you too.

The latest GitHub update shows the category bold if bold was enabled for the date headers for a more balanced look.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Hi, is there a possibility to reconfigure (e. G. Masking icons) the navigation menu or the order of shown stuff in the navigation menu?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The collapsible sections (account, unified folders, etc) are fixed. The order of the menu entries is fixed too, but you can reorder accounts and folders via the navigation menu of the setup screen.
[Android Apps and Games] francwalter:
Hallo, is there a way to shortcut the settings of the accounts?

At the moment in:

Settings > Main settings > Manual confguration and account options > Accounts

I want to disable and enable accounts a bit faster, but I don't know if there is a way to get a shortcut to exactly this setting.

I have some accounts which I don't need usually but only sometimes, I dont want to have all their mails in my general postbox.

Is it possible?

Thanks.

frank
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is not possible because accounts are not meant to be routinely disabled.

Maybe you can set the accounts to manual sync or remove the inbox from the unified inbox (long press the inbox in the folder list of the account).
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
I have one account out of my 6 which I normally only want to 'do' on my laptop, but available on the phone just in case of some laptop problem, so I set it up in FairEmail but just set it to manual sync only, unlike the other 5. So It's in the accounts list and if I do need it on the phone I only have to tap the manual sync icon for it, but otherwise leave it alone so its emails aren't usually on the phone.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1755 is available on GitHub now.

"Banji" might be the smallest dinosaur ever. In any case it seems an appropriate new name to me because the memory usage was significantly reduced when there are a lot of messages on the email server.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

@Ines* says that messages will flicker on being marked read on expanding. It isn't that I don't believe him, but I can't reproduce and can't explain it. Please let me know if you see any flickering and if so, when exactly. Related change:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/5364c539eb4dacd5eb8969bdd0f8f824dacd0aba

A small new feature is that you can select "no font" for outgoing messages in the send settings now. This means that messages will be displayed with the default font at the receiver's end. Messages will also be a bit smaller, but in most cases this will be insignificant.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
I don't see any flickering.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
On the matter of false/fake Play Store reviews, I just stumbled upon this one for a nice little tool set called Trail Sense:

"Burns battery. Cannot find a method of stopping it shy removal. So, for the sake of the cost of phone replacement for a failed battery. . Uninstalled. I have tools that show this app consumed more bandwidth and battery in a few days than an app left running for weeks. No need to install another".

Apart from using no background services unless you deliberately let it monitor the temperature and the barometer, the app does not even connect to the Internet at all.

I wonder what tools the reviewer used to measure bandwidth 🤔
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Sometimes I reply with "Are you reviewing the right app?" ...
[Android Apps and Games] m0d:
I was having problems trying to set up an old yahoo account.

Wizard opens up a window that does not have internet access. Is there a way to use installed browsers instead?

And

Setting up manually causes,

The email server said: '[AUTHENTICATIONFAILED] AUTHENTICATE Invalid credentials'

This was caused because yahoo requires you to set up app passwords first: accounts.yahoo

Finally, it worked but one thing,

In browser it displays Spam folder.

But in account set up in app, that was not an option:

Only Bulk mail shows up, which does not seem to exist in browser
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The app will use the installed browser, although this might not look like it.

The next version will guess that the bulk folder is the spam folder:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/85cb09ea886d62e4e2832df363cba5f0b9c3bfb3

The email server should send information about the folder types, but "dinosair" Yahoo probably won't.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1756 is available on GitHub now

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Since I am regularly having a slow internet connection is it useful to see how sending a larger message progresses, which is now visible in the sending status bar notification.

Note that this is an EXPERIMENTAL version because the send process has been changed for this. It works fine for me, but there might be unexpected side effects.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
If you are happy with the app, I would appreciate it if you reviewed the app in the Play store, if you can. Today wasn't a nice review day.
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
I would write a good review, but it appears that being registered as a beta tester in the store I can only write a review visible to you and nobody else!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks for the intention!

The Play store public and test versions are the same at this moment, so you should be able to leave the test program and keep the version you have installed via this link:

https://play.google.com/apps/testing/eu.faircode.email

There is a risk that the Play store app will reinstall the app though. So, export the settings first via the navigation menu of the setup screen.
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
Done. Hm, writing a review of what looks like a reasonable length in the Store on my laptop looks quite ... long in the store on my phone!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1757 is available on GitHub now.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

The send progress bar has been improved by factoring in data buffered by the network layer. This is done with some native code and therefore this version is still a bit experimental.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Since the number of message action buttons have increased over time, and to prevent a redraw when the image/encryption buttons appear after a message has been reformatted, the message actions buttons were rearranged a bit in version 1.1757b. I like to hear opinions about this change. Note that the original/reformatted message view and images on/off buttons are tinted with the accent color now to make them a little more prominent. This is the result of too many questions about how to show the images.

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases/tag/1.1757
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
Here's some initial feedback:

- using the accent colour to tint some buttons is a welcome change I think. Not only for prominence but also aesthetics. Maybe the Message Action Buttons should be colourised in some way too? (FairEmails 'plain' appearance is a common criticism in play store reviews)

- I would prefer if the Message Action Buttons are not moved to a new line but revert to display next to the show/hide arrow button - because I think this just wastes space unnecessarily on a phone screen. I also don't think it is as aesthetically pleasing compared to previously.

I also have a separate but related question - would it be possible for the user to be to rearrange the order of the Message Action Buttons?

This is because I use the phone one handed a lot and would prefer some buttons to aligned to one side (although see my further posts regarding gestures, since it's interrelated, at least for me).

THANKS for your continued support of this app Marcel, it's most appreciated (y) :cool:
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
On a similar subject, I use a custom gesture app (UbikiTouch) to navigate on my phone as well as perform actions (it has some chained action functionality too), but in FairEmail (unlike some other apps) I can only assign gestures to actions that are physically 'hard coded' visible on the screen, ie: if I hide the Conversation Action Bar, I can't assign delete to a gesture.

In addition. even though the Message Action Buttons and the Floating Action Button are always visible on the screen, they are not visible to UbikiTouch at all (perhaps because they are in the 'body' of the message?)

In my use case it would be great if I could hide the CAB to save screen space/clutter, and instead access any needed actions via the MAB and FAB and an appropriate gesture.

Do you have any thoughts on why these are not visible to UbikiTouch?

Delete and Mark As UnRead are the two actions that I use the most when navigating one handed (and therefore using gestures).

I could set a gesture to click the FAB using screen coordinates, because the FAB is always in the same place on the screen, BUT neither Delete or Mark As UnRead are a choice on the FAB unfortunately.

Might there be some way to work around this Marcel? Can the MAB and FAB be made visible to my gesture app? If not, can some additional actions be assigned to the FAB (and I'll click it using screen coordinates)?

Or as a third option, do these FairEmail actions have intents associated with them? Maybe I could utilise that method as a last resort.

I would appreciate your thoughts. THANKS :)
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
Finally, a separate but also slightly related question, when highlighting multiple Messages in a Conversation, the 3 dot FAB is displayed:

- is there a particular logic behind the order of actions available in that 3 dot FAB? eg: I often highlight multiple Messages to Delete them, but Delete is almost at the bottom of the list so I need to scroll all the way down. I would have thought Delete would be one of the most common actions in this situation, eg: much more common than Set Importance or Send As Attachment - which are at the top?

- might it be aesthetically nicer if the 3 dot FAB replaced the Compose Button in this type of instance, since compose isn't a valid choice if multiple messages are highlighted?

THANKS again :)
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Basically ok, but I found out that when longpressing on both icons to switch the view, there is no tooltip anymore, instead when longpressing to switch back to the reformatted view, there is only the hint that comes when switching to the original view (which of course doesn't make sense here).
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
To delete one or more mails, a swipe gesture is used here, which I find easiest.
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
Do you mean use the swipe gesture when multiple emails are selected? Is that possible? I couldn't get that to work?

Or do you mean swipe to delete one by one? (which of course works and I use it often too, but it isn't the same as deleting multiple messages at once).

:)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The new line is to prevent redrawing when not everything fits on one line and the image on/off button appears. If you think there is a better solution, please let me know.

The buttons can't be rearranged.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This looks like a problem or a limitation of the tool you are using.

The order of the items in the popup menu can't be changed. If it was changed, I am pretty sure somebody else would want it differently.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Replacing the compose buttons would not be noticed by everybody and result in lots of questions.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Long pressing the reformatted/original message view button will open the message full screen, so there can't be a tooltip too.

I will check the tooltip of the images on/off button.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Sorry, you're right of course ... since I rarely use it, I had the swipe gesture in mind for multiple mails as well, which indeed doesn't work.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
Ah, o.k., the image-button-tooltip is o.k.
[Android Apps and Games] jmh2002:
Hi Marcel, I'll let you take some time to review my previous posts a little more, because often you answer NO to everything quickly and immediately, and then later reconsider what can be done...

(maybe that's because of the time that write, and the time difference to Europe, and my posts are the first things you see in the morning, maybe along with some more bad play store reviews that upset you so much... I don't know?)

And to be fair, you asked for feedback, and feedback was given on this and multiple other items - which took me quite some time to do, and to explain clearly, as well as to try and test on my side - and it's after a long period of using FairEmail (as well as dozens of other emails apps to compare it to) and finding situations or asking questions regarding daily issues that I come across. It's not just random thoughts.

And you basically just shot everything down seemingly with very little consideration at all...

I don't think that is a reasonable approach to feedback.

Developers vs Users is a two way street.

Some things really can do with improvement in the app. Or some things can just be done a little differently to appease the situation (again, this can relate to some play store feedback).

But sometimes it really feels like "My Way or the Highway" when conversing with you.

This even when I am polite and tolerant in all of my posts. You often write in your play store replies "give me a chance" - well I ask for the same from you too please.

So you may note that I have lost some patience and needed to 'say something'...

😐
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am sorry you are feeling this way, but please understand that it is hard for me to unite the often very different wishes of people.

I can't help you with the other app, you'll need to contact the developer of the app for that.

Adding yet another set of options to configure the order of menu items and buttons will be yet another complication of the app. As it is, there are already enough comments about the number of options.

The rationale for the second line of the buttons is to prevent redrawing when the image button appears later.

Note that there is a "b" version to evaluate this change, which says it is not "my way or the highway". This change is not yet in an "official" release. I will undo the change, with an exception of tinting the buttons.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There are no intents for this. I think it is a bad idea to give another app this level of control over FairEmail. Another malicious app could delete your messages this way ...
[Android Apps and Games] 30jp:
Hi Marcel,

In my view Fairemail is perfect as it is now.

I don't need another color or another button.

I also don't want to do everything with one hand and if I want to throw something away, I select that and throw it in the trash or press permanently delete, which is under the trash.

And if Office/Outlook no longer works for everyone, then you already know that it is not because of Fairemail, but it is due to Microsoft. That turned out to be, but in the meantime you have spent hours with it, a waste of time.

You can already set so much in Fairemail that every request for change is nagging. Look at me, I found something too. I want this and I want that. But not to manny mb's.

If you look at all those thousands of posts here, the vast majority are cosmetics.

You can also adapt to the program, not everything has to go the way you want.

I don't know what's on people's minds, but hey, there's no better email program than Fairemail.

So for me, don't change anything.

Unless it's a basic thing like sending, receiving, encryption or privacy.

Marcel thanks for the great program.

Greetings
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Hi Marcel,

Maybe a bug in v1.1757: when I swipe left (ie thrash) a single message from the unified spam folder, there is no longer permanent delete confirmation and the message is actually deleted. This popup still appears when I select several messages and click on the Delete permanently menu item.

Thanks for having a look, no hurry of course!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
In the miscellaneous settings, please reset the questions.
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Solved!

It is strange because I don't remember having ticked Don't ask me again...

Thanks anyway!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will allow more selective resetting of questions.

Preliminary change log for the next version:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

Or more detailed:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/compare/1.1757...master?w=1
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
What is a selective resetting of a question?
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
He wrote '... of questions'.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Tap on the reset questions button in the miscellaneous settings and you'll understand.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Again bad reviews about too many updates, even if they are a week apart. I know a solution for this: for now I will stop working on FairEmail and limit changes to bug fixes only. There is no reason to be frustrated, my life doesn't depend on this project.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Stopping with improvements wouldn't be fair to the people appreciating my effort, so I will keep improving the GitHub version and reduce the Play store updates to once a month.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
Hey @M66B, small cosmetic bug, in the receive settings tab, the warning for fast polling shows even for "Always" sync. See screenshot. I think the warning and the text about polling should be hidden, right?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, it should be:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/commit/6229a6fd45ee895828eaddcfd4b4d9fe1a448a88
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
Another small issue, hopefully it isn't on my side, but limiting searches for fts doesn't seem to work. For example, limiting for unread shows a bunch of read messages nonetheless. It works fine when not using fts.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Can you please check again with the latest commits?

Comparing 1.1760...master · M66B/FairEmail

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - Comparing 1.1760...master · M66B/FairEmail

github.com
[Android Apps and Games] mkasimd:
IMHO it's a good choice to update GH more frequently and Play Store lesser so. This also let's GitHub users test the most recent features and give you proper feedback before anyone complains in the Play Store. Meanwhile, the Play Store Version will be an "old stable" version and GitHub more like a rolling release.
[Android Apps and Games] Giocarro:
I'm using FairEmail both for personal and work mailboxes, hence I'll stick with "stable" Play Store releases, but will keep following this thread to get development news and support other users.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1761 fixes all reported problems, including my failures as reported by @Dark_Eyes_

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] steakhutzeee:
Hi,

had a look at the settings but could not find how to enable the status progress bar for sent messages. Where is it?
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
Just as an opinion, the main play store release not updating so often is a good idea, but could the beta test version in the play store not keep up with the more frequent GitHub releases?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark_Eyes_:
Don't be so harsh on yourself, bugs aren't failures ;) Obviously, everything is working perfectly fine now. Thank you for maintaining this great app.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is no option for this. It is always enabled.

If a message was transferred within one second, there won't be a progress bar. Also, not all Android versions support a progress bar in status bar notifications.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have stopped updating the Play store test version with each GitHub version because there were complaints that there were too many updates ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1762 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
[Android Apps and Games] David B-E:
What? That's unbeleivable. How stupid can those people be? If they've signed up to be beta testers, which is entirely their choice, what do they expect? And if they don't like it they can just remove themselves as beta testers and go back to the regular version and that release pace. They've certainly got no right to complain about the frequency of beta updates. I use Firefox Nightly as my default browser on my phone and that gets at least 3 updates every day, sometimes several more. Anyone signing up as a beta tester and then complaining about pace of beta releases has to be a troll just looking for things to complain about and signing up for things without any actual interest in using them just to wind up the developer.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a reason why I complain maybe too often here. There is an seemingly endless stream of similar messages arriving each day in my inbox. Some pretty frustrating, some very rude. If I complain here, that's mostly caused by an accumulation of frustrating combined by trying to solve specific problems for others at the same time.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This 1 star review of somebody who was even provided a test version, is making me reconsidering my role in this project:

If you think that I am complaining here without good reasons, think again.

Edit: I will keep maintaining and supporting the project, but new features will keep being postponed and the level of support will be reduced to prevent further frustration. Can you blame me?

Edit: I like objective advice about this because my emotions are probably clouding my judgement.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Seriously Marcel, you should stop reading play store reviews and using those for support. You have no control over them and there are other ways users can ask questions, here and directly by email. The app rating will remain high, believe me. It might even improve, because I suspect some of these reviewers only to post there because they know that they can annoy you that way.

Nasty emailers you can simply block (it seems that FairEmail provides means to do that 😜) and unfair criticism here on XDA will be corrected by the community.

Announce in the app description that you will not read or respond to reviews anymore. The support options are excellent even without them. Only very few developers use those reviews for support anyway, so most users won't even notice.