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[Android Apps and Games] Licaon_Kter:
The icon is fine, both on website ( https://f-droid.org/en/packages/eu.faircode.email/ ) and in client, but I do see it missing when you search.

The padding is an ongoing issue. :)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not sure what you are asking, but FairEmail is mainly focused on privacy and security.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
How do you like the new 'show original' button? Is it an improvement or annoyance?
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Is fine

Though I can't use it - known Xposed crash
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
imho an improvement :)
[Android Apps and Games] PeterLustig61:
Looks quite good to me. Before officially posting in PlayStore it might be good to wait for some time until most of the tiny buglets have shown up and are fixed. Much easier with a smaller and patient audience. First impression matters ..

Greetings

Peter
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
For me it's too much because I will hardly use it, but 'annoyance' is too much for that. Maybe it can be put between the < and > buttons at the bottom, that I also hardly ever use. But if people like it... Can you move it to the right, maybe that looks a bit nicer? Now it is right above the salutation, making it look a bit cluttered.

Edit: oops, not possible, that's where the Show images button is already. Then just leave it like it is now.
[Android Apps and Games] dorqus:
I like it, it's easier to access than the three dot menu from earlier versions. Thank you
[Android Apps and Games] tiktok1:
I think both show original and show images are both too prominent.

Can't they both go on the <> bar?

Can we have an option to hide that bar too?

thanks for a great app
[Android Apps and Games] BreckZeBoulay:
Nice idea ! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] TheMystic:
On the FAQs page, permissions that are optional are very clearly mentioned in a separate section. Can't really spoon-feed users any more than that. But why are the permissions not explained in the Play Store listing?

Often the decision to attend or not may be deferred.

Thank you.

I still don't see disadvantages (from a user perspective) of having an 'optional' feature.
[Android Apps and Games] nadir husain:
Yess. I would also love to have this feature. GitHub is where most of your lovers are anyway, Marcel 😄
[Android Apps and Games] TheMystic:
On that note, why not provide 'plug-ins' if you feel more features will lead to the app getting bloated?

Total Commander is a nice file manager app where many of the non-essential features are available via plug-ins.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Making the Play store description longer won't help and might even be contra productive.
[Android Apps and Games] TheMystic:
I think he pays more attention to the negative reviewers (I also think his competitors and distractors have mastered the art of irritating him :ROFLMAO:) than those who are supporting him.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
A plugin architecture is complex and never finished, and besides that, plugins can't get more permissions than there were already declared in the app's manifest.

Moreover, a plugin architecture is a security risk.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Reviews play a role, but also the amount of work now and in the future and the number of people interested in a feature. So far, nobody ever asked for this, so I don't think a significant people would appreciate this feature.
[Android Apps and Games] TheMystic:
You know there are a lot more fake reviews than genuine reviews. Yet you keep paying more attention to it than it deserves. Your app is a competitor to Gmail and Outlook. So you really have two massive giants who want to kill your app. A lot of the negative reviews could well be from entities hired by them.
[Android Apps and Games] TheMystic:
I disagree. I thought there was a limitation to the number of characters allowed in the description.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a limit of 4,000 characters, which also means a complete permission description won't fit.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
@quertiy @nadir husain @TheMystic

Proof of concept: auto insert invites · M66B/FairEmail@4fb57ea

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - Proof of concept: auto insert invites · M66B/FairEmail@4fb57ea

github.com

Can one of you send me an invitation for today and update the invitation to another time?

If you like, you can contact me for a test version:

FairCode - contact

FairEmail, NetGuard, XPrivacyLua support

contact.faircode.eu
[Android Apps and Games] TheMystic:
I will send you one shortly.
[Android Apps and Games] TheMystic:
Just installed FairEmail and I see that Calendar activities are a Pro feature. I'll pass this on to someone who has paid for this.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Why don't you support the project? You are asking for new features after all ...
[Android Apps and Games] TheMystic:
I don't use FairEmail. If I do, I'll surely support this project. I'm just too used to Gmail and Outlook and their modern designs. Sorry.

P.S: I didn't ask for any feature here. I only participated in a feature request discussion where I expressed my views.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I think that's odd, but okay.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
In my opinion, good functions are clearly more important than good looks (which is a matter of taste anyway).
[Android Apps and Games] TheMystic:
I have never used FairEmail, so unable to comment on functionality, or how it compares to other similar apps.

The primary reason I use the official apps is because my data is already with the companies providing the email service (in this case Google and Microsoft). So the official apps aren't going to get anything that they don't already have. Plus the UI is something that I'm very used to, and also very comfortable with.

FairEmail looks dated (I know it is that way by design) in comparison, and as a first time user, the UI isn't too appealing for me. But I'm sure it is an excellent app otherwise given the reviews I have read about this app. And Netguard is a favourite app.
[Android Apps and Games] fraschi51:
You don't have to use these providers ... there are enough others that are not so data hungry.
[Android Apps and Games] quertiy:
I don't see your email address anywhere.

Just to clarify, I for one intend to buy it. And at least 10 of my colleagues in the next couple of weeks :))

It has a unique feature that I prefer not to mention publicly.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please use the contact form to send me a message and I'll respond with a download link. The auto store invitations feature is not yet a pro feature, so it can be tested with the free version of the app. This will change later though because IMHO this is typically a function which will be used professionally.

FairCode - contact

FairEmail, NetGuard, XPrivacyLua support

contact.faircode.eu

Maybe it is good to make a remark about this: never post your email address anywhere online, unless you love spam. This is also why contact forms are being used ...
[Android Apps and Games] TheMystic:
It is not just email that I use. I also use the cloud storage, photo backups, notes, etc. It is basically the full suite that I pay a subscription for.
[Android Apps and Games] TheMystic:
Why not?
[Android Apps and Games] nvraub:
Hello all...

Is there a setting instructing FM to re-open the eMail last open when it times-out with that eMail open? If so, please share a link to instructions for this setting.

If not, I would like to request such an option.

CURRENT WORKFLOW​

If reading newsletter with multiple links:

Viewing an eMail

click on link to a webpage

webpage opens and complete task

use "Back" to go back to FM

FM timed-out and requires security to open

user completes security requirement and FM re-opens

Inbox with list of all eMails render

user is left to search for previously open eMail if an additional action is required

If eMail was from a previous date, it can be quite an onerous task to locate the eMail.

DESIRED WORKFLOW​

(After user uses "Back" and enters security requirements) FM renders with previously open email, opened.

Cheers for reading!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
You are probably using a PIN or biometric authentication. If the timeout expires, the app will be closed, and this is the only safe way to implement this. Closing means that any state will be lost. Keeping the state means keeping the app open, which means this security measure wouldn't work.

tl;dr; the only option is to turn PIN/biometric authentication off.

Edit: I will see if the current conversation can be re-opened when the app was closed because of the PIN/biometric timeout. The disadvantage is just that: the last viewed conversation will leak, which can be problematic when you are forced to unlock the app.
[Android Apps and Games] nvraub:
Damn... Ok, thanks for the quick reply!
[Android Apps and Games] nvraub:
A second onerous interaction I've notice also has to do with the app closing but it's while reading an eMail. If an eMail is open for a while and then I attempt to scroll, the app closes as if it was at the exact time it timed-out, which is unlikely. I haven't timed this but it's not like 20 seconds, it would be closer to the time-out length I have set which is a couple of minutes.

Has anyone else experienced this interaction?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please reproduce this, and send me ASAP after it the debug info by long pressing 'Support' in the navigation menu.
[Android Apps and Games] johny_doe:
Hello!

Is it possible to set FairEmail so that the app ONLY syncs the email account at startup?
[Android Apps and Games] de_Wolf:
Have you ever looked around in the settings?

Or in the FAQ?

FairEmail/FAQ.md at master · M66B/FairEmail

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - M66B/FairEmail

github.com

For example:

(79) How do I use synchronize on demand (manual)?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is an option for this in the behavior settings tab page.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I am not so glad about 1-star review like this:

But they are insignificant compared to that the cancer of my mother isn't visible on scans anymore after 16 chemo therapies.
[Android Apps and Games] johny_doe:
Thank you! It helped!

And another big thanks for the good work.

Keep it up!
[Android Apps and Games] de_Wolf:
Thank you, @M66B, for sharing the positives as well!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1995c is available now as test version.

Changelog:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

You can get this version by installing version 1.1995b linked in this comment:

https://xdaforums.com/t/app-5-0-fai...vacy-oriented-email-app.3824168/post-87657833

In the miscellaneous-settings tab page, make sure checking for test versions is enabled. You can long press 'About' in the navigation menu to check for updates right away, but the app will do this a few times a day automatically too.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
@nvraub I think restoring the last state is not the right way to solve your issue. Instead, please increase the lock timeout in the privacy settings of the app. Note that you can lock at any time manually by turning the screen off.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
A long press on about don't shows me an update. Within the about menu I also can't find any update. I am on 1.1995b and the option in mid settings to search on gitlab is checked
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Are update notifications enabled? Please tap on the first button in the notification settings tab page to check this.
[Android Apps and Games] de_Wolf:
@M66B, I also fail to start the update.

Installed version 1.1995b/Android 10

- Miscellaneous/check for test versions... -> activated

- Notifications/updates -> activated

If I long press on the ′About' in the navigation menu in the second to last line, then ′1.1995′ is displayed in a small window with blue background color.

Am I at the right ″About″ position?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Please repeat the manual check and immediately after it send me the debug info by long pressing 'Support' in the navigation menu.
[Android Apps and Games] de_Wolf:
Done...
[Android Apps and Games] wimstefan:
I'm glad to read this! 😊
[Android Apps and Games] La_Globule:
Hello Marcel,

I'd like to sync the folder list for an account and I don't find this action.

Can you please recall me where it is?

Thanks a lot.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Folder lists are synchronized automatically, unless you turned this off in the receive-settings tab page.

With 'force sync' in the three-dots overflow menu, you can sync the folder list right away, also if this was turned off.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Recently I got t the update message to 1.995c. okay, that's fine that the update notifications for gitlab is now working. I accidentally searched for new updates commonly in the fstore and realized that 1.996 is available but this update isn't been notificated from fairmail. Neither automatically nor manually by long tapping on i. Marcel, what shall I do now?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
That's because I forgot to push an update to BitBucket, which has been fixed now.
[Android Apps and Games] topcaser:
Does this mean that I am now stuck at the bitbucket channel?
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
No, if you long press 'About' an update should be found now.

Alternatively, you can always disable checking for test version in the miscellaneous settings tab page.
[Android Apps and Games] Langurites:
I just downloaded this version from F-Droid. It works wonderfully. Thank you again for the quick fix.

Should have mentioned before, but I've already paid for the Pro version, so I'm very happy to support you!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.1997 1.1998 1.1999 is available on GitHub and BitBucket now and via the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version fixes all reported bugs.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
This is maddening and as a result new features will be added only if the criteria in the FAQ are being full-filled, with no exceptions anymore:

I will keep fixing bugs, and update the app for new Android versions, just like NetGuard, and for the rest I will add what's useful to myself only. I am more than done sharing my work (a lot!) and getting things like this in return.
[Android Apps and Games] de_Wolf:
When you say that developing apps is not about money, I believe you. But you also have to live from something, because you also have rent or a mortgage to pay, besides the other everyday things and much more what you need to live.

If you use your knowledge and skills for something, you have the right to demand a financial return.

I wrote already in the past that I cannot understand this free mentality. But this does not help you, in any case you do nothing wrong!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Apparently, what I am doing wrong is asking for a bit of money for features which are used professionally mostly, like S/MIME (used by German lawyers as I understood, for example), etc.

If the app was about the money, I am doing something really stupid ...
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Looking at the Play store review of today: people are so harsh. For example, somebody has successfully been using the app for years and is now leaving a bad review, for something which can probably easily be fixed by changing a setting. Maybe the app should be about the money. At least I would have something in my hands, instead of a bad taste in my mouth. Food for thought.
[Android Apps and Games] de_Wolf:
I have been on the forum for a little over six months now and what I have noticed over the months is that you give much more weight to the negative comments than the positive, but they are there in much greater numbers than the negative.

I think it's a pity that you don't manage to let the many thousands of positive opinions win out over the negative ones.

I do not mean my comment in a nasty or patronising way.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Did I? It isn't that the average Play store rating is rising ...

I know you mean well !
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
I have cooled down again, after a good night's sleep. Supporters will still be treated with "priority", meaning interesting features will still be implemented if requested.
[Android Apps and Games] sronweb:
I just realize that there was an open thread about FM here in XDA, and I can report my experience which is very positive since I started to use it from 1 year and half ago. The app is well designed and has a lot of functions for customization, possibility to set every tiny part of the mail client. I was using another popular app which was not able to handle certified mail account which is used to communicate with public administration etc. and I had to look for alternatives and landed in FM.

I use it for 5 different accounts, as IMAP and POP3 and also certified mail.

For some parameters perhaps might be "confusing" because of so many settings are available, but this is not a cons, as is up to the user requirement to decide to stay with basic options, using ie the guided functions to set the account, or go for manual settings.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Thanks. Maybe you can write a nice Play Store review too?
[Android Apps and Games] sronweb:
Yep, I did it already. 5 star! ;) I will add some of these comments.
[Android Apps and Games] chris122380:
This person doesn't understand the fact that even open source projects can require payment for a compiled version. If it's this big of a problem remove the binaries from GitHub or hide them from people like this. You have also always given people a free way to get the app I have no clue why they're bothering to complain they obviously haven't read the frequently asked questions or paid any attention to any responses you may have given them.
[Android Apps and Games] chris122380:
We are always here to support you and I don't mind if you need to vent we all need to.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
There is a new test version available, version 1.1999b.

Changelog:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

In the latest GitHub version, enable checking for test versions in the miscellaneous settings tab page to get this version. You can check for updates manually, by long pressing 'About' in the navigation menu.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Test

version 1.1999c is available now.

Changelog:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

It is possible now to ZIP an attachment in the message editor by long pressing on it.
[Android Apps and Games] joe890:
Hi,

I heard many good things about Fairmail and I would like to know:

Is it possible to prepare/write mails offline within Fairmail an send them

later on e.g. when an "internet connection" is available (IMAP4)? How?

Thank you!

PS

Sent mails should afterwards be listed in the Mail web gui as well:)
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Yes, this is a standard feature and you don't need to do anything for it, except for sending messages.
[Android Apps and Games] joe890:
Hello

I heard many good things about Fairmail and I would like to know:

Is it possble to delete old mails in Fairmail ( (IMAP4), if there is no Internet-connection?

An (and have this delete replicated to the Mailboxes stored at my ISP asap internet-connection is back online or on request? How?

Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
FairEmail is designed to do everything offline, and to replicate it on the server as soon as possible. That's what operations are for:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq3

You can even see the queued operations via the navigation menu (left side menu).

You don't have to do anything yourself for this.
[Android Apps and Games] joe890:
Wow this is really extremely cool !!
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.2000 1.2001 is available on GitHub now and via the Play Store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

Notable additions are OAuth for AOL, support for LanguageTool premium, and zipping of attachments in the message composer.
[Android Apps and Games] joe890:
Hi

do you expect the Solo 1 Tap USB-A (the NFC variant) to work with Farimail, for the case the mobile phone and the

ISP does support it? (do not yet own a Solo)

Solo 1 Tap USB-A

***NFC capable*** NOTE: Solo Tap does not work with all phones. Results of our current survey: Secure your logins with two-factor authentication and stay protected against phishing and other online attacks. Works with Google, Facebook, Twitter, Dropbox, Github, and anything that supports FIDO2...

solokeys.com

Thank's a lot
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Asuming you want to use this hardware key for OpenKeychain, you'll need to ask the OpenKeychain developers this question, but I don't think they will answer you. I know for sure that a YubiKey works because I use one myself.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The latest version was removed because it caused trouble with the authentication of Outlook/Office 365 accounts. I am currently not able to fix this, but I'll ASAP.
[Android Apps and Games] nubla:
Ah, that explains why my Hotmail account is suddenly failing to authenticate in FE.

Is it not possible to downgrade to a lower version by installing an older apk (github releases)? They fail to install for me.

One other minor detail: it it expected that the pinned menu/navigation bar on the left gets unpinned by itself in some cases? eg if I expand it, click to navigate somewhere, then hit the back arrow. My expectation is that when something is pinned, it should remain so until it is expressly unpinned.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The navigation menu can't be pinned and unpinned at the same time, so if you expand it, you'll unpin it too. I think that is logical. Pressing back will close the expanded navigation menu because the app doesn't know if you want to pin it or close it, and close is what normally happens in this state.

tl;dr; if you unpin the navigation menu, you'll need to explicitly pin it again.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
Version 1.2002 is available on GitHub now and via the Play store test program after Google's approval.

Changelog/download:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version was released to fix the Outlook/Office 365 authentication problems. You might need to authorize the account(s) again via the quick setup wizard.
[Android Apps and Games] nubla:
Thanks for the explanation. At least now I understand the reason for that behavior.

Great! Hotmail account is working again with this version, and in my case the account did not need to be re-authorized.
[Android Apps and Games] pakitos:
Hey,

Just wanted to say that I've been using this app for the last few months and it's been good, never had any bug or issue with my usage. The biggest feature for me is the ability to get a notification per subfolder. It's the only app I know that does it, so thank you!

Since I found the app around august (I think) when the app was removed and then came back as "Test" (or that's how I remember) I signed in for it but never found any issues with mine so I'll be switching to the "public" version.

I also got the Pro. :)
[Android Apps and Games] pakitos:
{Mod edit: Quoted post has been deleted. Oswald Boelcke}

Yup, I tried a few apps, can't say I tried them all but none did it and it's quite important for me to be notified per subfolder since not every mail arrives to my inbox.

I can't even find one for me computer so it's my phone the one that actually notifies me and if I'm on my PC I search the subfolders else I use my phone.

This has improved my workflow, that's why I came to thank the dev.
[Android Apps and Games] M66B:
The next version will have a new option in the privacy settings tab page to remove tracking parameters from links by default. Since removing tracking parameters can lead to links that do not work anymore, this will be done only when showing the link confirmation dialog, so that removing tracking parameters can be disabled always again if needed.