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[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
Nope the camera was a belter, no denying it.

I've a relatively strong feeling that the user making that video has some kind of nostalgic affinity towards his Lumia.

Which in all fairness could have had a DSLR strapped to it and when you bought it you got a free date with a supermodel and it would have still been awful.

The camera was awesome but I would still pit the p20 pro against it when it's in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing.

Not bashing the 1020's camera, it was stellar, but that yellow, that OS, that app store, that build quality, just everything about it beyond the camera was a world away from acceptable, totally atrocious, I really can't say anything good about the windows mobile platform and I was an early adopter as an ambassador so I got all the phones.

Honestly I gave most of them back, including this.

The only thing I liked was the dark UI and the font.

That's about it.

Eg: Sonos app for Android, free, iOS: free, windows mobile: on release, £7.99

Comparisons Vs the pro when used with the stock settings and the punchy AI is not a fair comparison either, pro mode with a user who has a clue is.

In that sense, pretty much any phone is defeated.

Dxo are testament to that.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
+1 to this.

And further to that, you don't cart a DSLR around with you unless you're one of those guys who has a backpack on constantly.

I've taken some awesome shots with my DSLR and I'm not under any illusion to think I'm a pro, but if I'm waking down the road and I need to film something or there's a shot I'd love to catch. I'm not going to whip a 1.2lb camera out my pocket.

My phone is always with me and as a phone it's camera is second to none for what I require.

Point and shoot for me is above average.

Video could have been a lot better, although ois I have missed coming from the OnePlus 5

Pro mode, when in the right hands, is unbeatable.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] fitness33:
I own a p20 pro and I must say the camera of this phone is pretty much amazing and getting better and better with every update. 80 mb raw dng and adobe Lightroom is all you need to take professional grade photos. Also night mode is out of reach for other phones at the moment.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
I found out some weirdness.

I turned off FHD in display as I couldn't really tell the difference in sharpness visually.

My understanding was, lower resolution = better performance, better battery (less pixels to push)

Without making the connection, I noticed that my 60fps video and transitions between give screen and Google feed was lagging, as was Asphalt 9.

Couldnt work it out.

Then I turned it back to FHD and Asphalt 9 started to run even better? Lol makes no sense.

Anyway making the game run faster actually had a knock on effect of making the camera behave as it should and the phone ran a lot quicker.

It you've got HD turned on or adaptive resolution in Display, turn it off.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] Frontfiringspeakers:
Lack of 4k video or 1080p 60fps stabilisation is the phones biggest failing.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] MicasjasM:
I agree still photo's in low light from objects not moving are great, I am talking about low light fast moving objects.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
By all accounts all of the cameras have OIS so it could be changed in future updates.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
Fast moving in the dark? Not sure any phone with the level of details that the Pro can capture would do any better.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] orangecroc:
Most DSLR cameras struggle with fast moving objects in low light.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
Precisely, lower detail faster exposure would help but you'd need a beast to eliminate blur with relatively high levels of detail.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] aseanity:
My top complaints is the black crush/smearing effect when display is dimmed down. I use my phone very often in a dimly lit room. So the black smearing effect annoyed me so much
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] orangecroc:
What do you mean by this?
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] Pretoriano80:
AFAIK camera modules that use OIS,are bigger and cost more. So not every smartphone's camera has OIS and it cannot be implemented later, not without upgrading the camera module.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
I have read that the cameras in the p20 Pro (all of them) have actually got OIS however it's not been utilized, as in the camera modules do indeed have that capability.

Be nice to get an update which allows it but i really can't see it and can't say how accurate the details of this article were.

Time will tell i suppose.

EG: https://thenextweb.com/plugged/2018/04/09/huawei-said-p20-pro-doesnt-ois-3-cameras-lying/
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] Pretoriano80:
Oh, though you were speaking about cameras in general.

If the cameras really have OIS and Huawei doesn't use it they are either dumb or to confident in their AI s**t.

But we are speaking about Huawei here, so i guess we can expect anything... [emoji16]
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] RidgeBoyGenius:
I'm in Canada (got my model from Fido). I am of course disappointed with the lack of legitimate updates that i get. The updates that I do get are the security updates, and they're a minimum of 1 month late. I'm also disappointed with the locked bootloader, which stopped me from re-branding my device.

That being said, the performance and camera are really outstanding. The night mode camera is also awesome. There are moments when i wish i still had my Pixel 2 camera, but otherwise, I have to say I'm impressed. Battery life has also been amazing. Really hard to find negatives about this phone.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] aseanity:
Here is the video I took, it might not capture in the video clearly:

[youtube]cudZBnGKmZ0[/youtube]

Squeeze your eyes and pay attention in the earphone's black wiring. When I drag left and right, you can see the black trail or the black smearing effect of it

From the video might not be obvious, but if you really turned your display brightness down and use your phone in dimly lit room. The back smearing effect is very noticeable especially in the setting menu ( darken interface) and gallery.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] jj03:
It is true. I have seen a teardown of the p20 pro and it showed all three camera's have ois.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] all the pugs:
Just because the lenses are floating does not mean they have ois.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] hfmartins:
I am seriously disappointed!!!

The screen brightness, auto or not is all over the place...

The system has no reproducibility... Dim mode sometimes kicks off.. . Some others dos not...

Look at the attched pic... Where are the options below the round circle that should have all the colours? What I am missing...?

Answering calls sometimes is by dragging a circle from the middle to the right side where the green circle is... Sometimes it just takes pressing the green circle...
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] worldsoutro:
What do you miss about the pixel 2 camera?
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] pratik_193:
As per jerryrigeverything, only one camera has ois.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] all the pugs:
Locked phone —> drag, unlocked phone —> press
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] hfmartins:
Thank you for explaining that to me! It is such a basic thing, but for someone not used to this, it was getting on my nerves!
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] RidgeBoyGenius:
The color reproduction on the P20 Pro is just hugely inaccurate. I take a lot of sunset pictures, and as much as I mess with the settings, I'll never get a picture that's accurate to the colors I'm seeing. I can get unique pictures that no other camera on a phone could take, and that's cool, but I want accurate colors, and it's a bit of a bummer that I can't achieve that with any combination of settings. My pixel 2 never had that issue, it gave me stunning sunset photos.

Also, the Pixel 2 had a better auto mode. I was more able to take it out of my pocket to snap a quick pic and not have to re adjust anything.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] RFD_Yesstyle:
turning off AI helps
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] RidgeBoyGenius:
It's been off since i got the phone, but thanks for the tip!
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] orangecroc:
Change the colour output profile.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
Haha what does it mean then pal?

There are other articles about this too, I'm sure I can Google it for you but why would I deprive you of finding it yourself.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
Yea I didn't know much about them before I got the 6P which was a dream to root etc, mass abundance of ROMs, just didn't anticipate the madness this phone has taught me..

It's crazy compared to a Google / 1+ device.

Still, something about it I love.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] all the pugs:
I'll keep it short, but floating elements are used for various reasons, for example:

- to ensure optimal image sharpness

- to correct optical errors

- to assist proper focussing

- to dampen harsh movement

- for additional shock resistance

etc etc etc.

There are dozens of reasons why Huawei decided to to construct the lenses the way they are, but none of these says it MUST be used for an optical stabilization. So to claim all of the lenses DO have optical stabilization just because they are floating lenses, is bull. Even IF all three lenses COULD possibly provide OIS from the hardware side, they don't. So it doesn't make sense to spread any rumors about the camera modules. The Mate 20 is coming soon and the P20 Pro will no longer be the top model. Don't you think IF it was so easy to add OIS function to the camera, there would have been an update by now? Maybe the camera module will be re-used for the Mate 20 and it have OIS, so the development cost for a new module is lower, but I highly doubt this will ever come to the P20 Pro.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] orangecroc:
The lens housing has the same mounting as OIS but likely doesn't have the mechanical elements for OIS adjustment. That, or the AI stabilisation is just a Huawei using different naming to make the AI in the phone look better.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
Lool thanks for keeping it short pal, I'm only saying what I read, plus it does make sense, that AI stabilization is not just AI I don't care what anyone says.

More to the point. As much as I couldn't specifically prove that there is OIS, the same goes for you proving that there isn't.

Even more to the point.

It makes no difference, so all of it is bull :)

Lol rumours.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] RooBoonix:
I find auto brightness great. Responsive and smooth transitions.

You're missing the line that says you can't adjust colour temperature when eye comfort is enabled. Go to the previous screen and disable eye comfort temporarily to adjust screen colour temperature.

Coming from a Nexus 6p I was worried that I'd miss the pure android experience but I am really finding that the P20 Pro is a fantastic phone and it does everything I want it to
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] subhani:
Auto brightness works extremely well for me. No black smudges that others are reporting.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] beko1987:
I can join this part of the forum now! My P20 Pro will be delivered in (apparently) 30 minutes! Upgrading from a Nexus 6p which has been lovely, but time to move on! Hoping itll be a bit of a performance increase anyway!

I'll keep it stock for now, as custom roms and such seem to be in a bit of infancy, plus I read a thread about no unlock codes... Have got the how to make it stock with nova bookmarked though, I have the paid for nova in my app library.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] subhani:
Well done. Try substratum themes and Hamzio7 apps. No root required. You can change system notification panel quicksettings to follow stock Android and settings page look stock Android. And of course, I use nova too. Then gapps like calendar, Gmail, gallery and messages. It is pretty much stock Android like that. It's battery stats and dialer that I use often that are EMUI skinned and I actually like the battery stats theme.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] hfmartins:
I hard reset the phone due to the quick draining speed of my battery... And installed all apps from scratch. No backup was used.

Now I am seeing some apps presented as twin apps on the Apps Notification section, that I think they shouldn't be on there as the only twin app I have is WhatsApp!

Am I missing something here?
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] RidgeBoyGenius:
Hey, thanks for the tip! I'll try this and see if it helps.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] beko1987:
An hour in and my eyes have stopped aching, I always though the 6p screen was very good, but I look at it now and can see a difference!

I'm quite liking emui for now, going to give it a fair crack anyway before firing up nova! Put the app drawer back on, killed all the home screen rubbish and changed all the app defaults and taken a nice picture of a flower... Also using the fingerprint sensor instead of the soft keys

Might look at the notification drawer though, thanks for the tip. Will also look at adb removing the Huawei apps as they do nothing for me, and make the app drawer cluttered

Its like I've swapped my Laguna for a jaguar f-pace! Very happy with it for £21 a month Inc contract! (with Ee now, and I actually have signal in my house!)
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] subhani:
Awesome stuff man. Glad to hear it. I'm also on EE and I also use the fingerprint scanner like you do. Takes some getting used to but definitely worth it if you can soldier it for three days, it will become second nature. Best of luck, mate.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
Erm ouch.

Yea you might want to remember how long your got to send it back..

You can't unlock the bootloader anymore dude..

Great phone but that's where it ends.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] beko1987:
Yes, it's fab! I charged it up overnight, and got up at 4am to shut the windows as it got chilly, and unplugged it on 100%. 4h20m later, and I've flicked around the net and facebook and played a bit of crazy taxi, and streamed music in the car over BT it's at 95%. Going to have a day of not charging it and see what happens. My 6p (although the battery was knackered, and it has the shut down at 40% malarky) would need charging twice a day.

My Spigen case came yesterday and that makes it much nicer to hold, slippery little sods arent they! The screen protectors however aren't so good... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07DFJJY88/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Doesn't sit quite right, wrote the first one off as I had it half a mm too far to one side and the case pushed it up and off the screen, had to adjust the second one, but on the top edge of the phone it isn't sitting on the screen no matter how much I rub it. Leaving it on for now but will be trying another type.

Registered on the Huawei app and played with the themes, their very nice, still yet to remove the bloat. And there is much bloat, with no apps open it idles at 2.5gb ram used, going up to 4gb used with a few things open. Not terrible, but could be lower!

And it fits in my ****ty cheap dock at work, which is nice. Doesnt need to fast charge at work
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] andreas1996:
I went from S8 to P20 Pro before 15 days. This phone is a beast for everything. (I don't care for video recording quality I found it good but not perfect)
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] walkerx:
There is some bloat but nothing like you get on Samsung devices. It also has AV built in so don't need another app for that.

For UK users if you got the C782 model the network provider will install their apps, but you can remove them.

If you use Nova Launcher be warned that the stock Huawei widgets will cause it to crash and not reload.

You can change layout of screen so looks like standard android instead of looking like an iPhone.

Remember you will need to tweak some settings to get it how you want.

Overall it's an excellent piece of kit (I've come from Nexus 4, 6, Pixel XL then Mate 10 Pro) and if u like taking photos you can't really beat the camera unless use DSLR
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
My phone got put on a diet day one, I even killed battery stats off unintentionally lol.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] MicasjasM:
I compared pictures made with the p20 pro and pictures taken with a S8 and to be honest mine were one big blurry mess but the ones taken with the S8 at least were good. But I think it had to do with settings so I am trying again in September.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] kloodee:
Spec wise is as expected, update wise is really bad. I am still at 130 and my device is CLT l29 dual sim. Cant enjoy gaming yet and cant justify $10 to do an update with funky
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] dlads:
I'll bet you could take a clearer and better picture if done correctly with the pro.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] mclisme:
Extremely satisfied after 2 weeks of ownership. I chose the phone over its competitors for the camera but it proves to be an excellent package overall, to the point that I would recommend it even to people that don't worry about the photo quality so much but simply need a great phone.

Everything runs butter smooth, the screen, color and clarity wise looks amazing, autonomy is great, charges stupid fast, and the design and finish make it stand out of the ordinary black smartphone squad and feel pretty special. I even like EMUI, it has most of the features I need or offers good alternatives. Just changed the Home screen style to typical Android drawer but other than that I like the way settings menus have been polished and rearranged, it slightly feels like iOS but in a good way, aesthetics and sleekness definitely an improvement over stock Android. I also switched to touch button navigation and just love the feeling of it even more, phone almost feels like it has no edges any more :good: There's several other small bits that I am forgetting right now (like the desktop view implementation) that show how much thought has been put into every little detail. Personally, after several Nexus devices I had become pretty bored with the simplicity and raw look of stock Android to the point that every new Nexus device I got felt more or less the same for the everyday use to my previous one unless I started flashing custom roms. The P20 Pro has been very refreshing in that aspect.

The camera is a powerhouse, it can keep you busy for a long time trying and comparing settings seeing how to get the max out of it under different conditions and it actually triggers me into shooting way more often than I did in the past, and with some amazing results quite often. (Recently discovered that when shooting in Aperture mode, the photo saves different aperture data at the same time and you can post-shooting edit where you want the focus to be - wow) It really doesn't need any more complements than what's been already said.

My single complaint is the poor/inexisting video features. No 60fps over 1080? No stabilization over 1080p30? I only shoot amateur videos, nothing destined for YT or further publicity but for a phone that focuses so much on photography it's totally inexplicable as it's definitely not a H/W limitation. Seems they completely forgot to build the video mode and when they remembered to do, it was so late that they simply released 3 shooting modes and let it be. I am lucky that I don't need video so much so that I can profit from the rest that the phone has to offer, but for anyone who has video high in his list he'd probably have to look elsewhere which is a pity as it's otherwise an exceptional phone.

PS. I just discovered there are at least manual video controls, (Pro mode > top right corner camera icon) yeahh!
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] subhani:
It's like you're my mental twin. Everything you said was exactly the same reasoning for me. I got tired of stock Android. Needed third party apps to do a few things that OEM skins just do better and feels more seamless, baked in.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] jtirrell:
If I could get rid of this thing I would.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SOI_7:
Greetings to all, first post here!

My short story: I have an Ulefone U008 Pro, which was stuck on Android 6.0, so as many other users I decided to flash a custom ROM. The ROM I chose was Resurrection Remix 5.8.5 (Nougat), which I found on getdroidtips.com (I can't post links since I'm a new user).

Actually, that article is a repost from another post on the 4PDA Forum (which sadly is in Russian, a language I can't speak). The author of the port says that the firmware works fine, except for the Home button (which is not a big deal to me, since I've been able to remap the other buttons easily). However, after some days of tests, I discovered another issue which was not reported: Bluetooth doesn't work properly. I can pair and connect, but when I use a Bluetooth headset I get no audio, neither music nor system sounds (something that didn't happen with the stock ROM). Searching around here I found some possible solutions, like replacing system/lib/modules/mtk_stp_bt.ko, system/lib/libbluetooth_mtk.so and system/lib/libbluetoothem_mtk.so or system/lib/hw/bluetooth.default.so from the stock ROM, but I got no results (or, to be more precise, the first three files made no difference, while bluetooth.default.so makes Bluetooth Share crash each time I turn it on).

So, now I don't know what else can I do to fix this ROM. I don't want to give up, because it's fast, smooth and highly customizable compared to the stock ROM. Do you know what else could I do to fix this problem? FYI, I have both the stock firmware (with boot.img, system.img etc.) and an ADB pull of the original system/ folder for any file replacement. Hope you can help me, thanks in advance!

P.S. Reading through the 4PDA forum (with Google translate…) it looks like the author used a firmware from another phone, the Oukitel U7 Plus (???), probably because they share the same chipset. I don't know if this could be helpful.

Phone specs:

Release Date: 2016

Processor: MT6737 Quad-core 1.3 GHz

Processor manufacturer: MTK

Languages: Norwegian, Russian, Italian, German, French, Spanish, Polish, Turkish, Portuguese, English

Operating system: Android 6.0

Battery capacity: 3500 mAh

Touch screen: 2 touch

FM radio, GPS navigation

Slots: 1 memory card + 2 slots for micro sim

RAM: 2 GB

ROM: 16 GB

Camera type: Rear camera 8 Mp with interpolation up to 13 Mp, front 5 Mp with interpolation up to 8 Mp

Size: 148.2 * 72.8 * 9.5mm

Number of SIM cards: 2

Display Resolution: 1280x720

Cellular: GSM / WCDMA / LTE

Recording accuracy: 1080P

Band mode: 2SIM / Multi-Bands

Battery type: Detachable

2G: GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 (B5 / 8/3/2)

3G: WCDMA: 2100/900 (B1 / 8)

4G: FDD-LTE: 2100/1800/2600/900/800 (B1 / 3/7)
[Moto Z2 Force  Questions & Answers] loldevil:
Hello my dears,

Is there any chance to get this feature on our Z2 Force?

The Moto app on G6 have more features then Z2 Force :( :

https://youtu.be/cYi1MGx9jyw?t=50s

..and inside Accessibility, the option "three pointer take screen shot" doesn't exist, like in others phones..

Thank you!