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[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] ooklathemok:
I'm seeing more and more people use Android phones Google-free by not installing gapps and getting all their applications through alternative sources like F-Droid. When I look at the custom ROMs for the Essential Phone, I see most have gapps baked in.

Just curious if anyone has experience on the PH-1 without gapps or Google service. What ROM are you using? Any issues?
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] DoR3M3:
Yes I'd love to know if anyone has gone microG, Xposed FakeGapps on Oreo with a custom rom?

Also if anyone has used Terminal Debloater on Stock Oreo and doing ok?

Thanks
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] TheIronLefty:
Does Generic System Image come with Gapps? if not then you can use that.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] ooklathemok:
I was thinking that as well. In fact, perhaps the deodex ROM is without gapps. I'll have to ask in that thread.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] DoR3M3:
If that reply was for me, I'm asking more about Custom Roms.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] gadgetguy08:
It has been a long process, but I am most of the way there. Used deodexed Oreo Stock. Had to use Tingle manually to patch the framework.jar to get microg running. Haven't debloated yet, but most of the stock apps are disabled at this point. Most apps I use are from F-Droid. Using it as DD now.

Took several days to discover the NFC point is very narrow at the bottom center of the back. I had thought I had broken something. :silly:
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] DoR3M3:
I think I'm 99.9% there with CarbonROM LOL...

UnifiedNip is registerd in system, but this section I can't checkmark, even after rebooting. I was using the latest Preview GMSCore, I'll flash the rom over and try with the Stable GMSCore and see if it makes any difference and report back.

I have Xposed, FakeGapps, Magisk 16.7, Magisk Module for F-Droid Privilege, and Debloater (Terminal), and F-Droid. Everything working pretty good, Debloater systemlessly removed some Gapps I didn't want, Browser, Calendar, Gallery...
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] gadgetguy08:
I don't have "UnifiedNlp has known location" checked even though Satstat and OSM clearly show the location.

I am using Core -127 from NanoDroid 17.7.

Debloater is up next.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] DoR3M3:
Well I just wiped/formatted, flashed back the Oreo fastboot image, now ready to flash in carbonrom and try this as I said with the stable versions of microg... ;)

BRB... :)
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] gadgetguy08:
How was your experience with FakeGapps? I kept getting Null pointer exceptions. Tried v1.1 and 2.0.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] DoR3M3:
Where did you see, get this at?

Ok UnifiedNIp is registered in system - [Checked] :)

To make everything work correctly, you'll want to push the GmsCore.apk to /system/priv-app/GmsCore/GmsCore.apk and then extract the lib/ folder from the GmsCore.apk to /system/priv-app/GmsCore/lib - otherwise the bundled libraries will not be found by the app and the maps library will crash apps.

If you don't know how to extract from an .apk, just rename to .zip, then copy out the lib directory.

I did have Xposed modules installed for this, so I will go back one more time, wipe it all again, and this time, see if I get it again. :)
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] gadgetguy08:
I had the FakeGapps errors in the Xposed Log [systemless version 90.2-beta3]. Tried several things. Interesting you didn't experience them.

I was always able to get UnifiedNLP to registered. It just doesn't show that it has a known location in the microg self check, but SatStat, OSM and others show it.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] DoR3M3:
Xposed showed a notification, I mean, you just looked in the logs, or how did you first know?

What is SatStat, OSM and others?

How are you installing microg? I just installed the apk is all, these versions and in this order;

Services Core - com.google.android.gms-12221403.apk

Services Framework Proxy - com.google.android.gsf-8.apk

Store (FakeStore release) - com.android.vending-16.apk

DroidGuard Helper - org.microg.gms.droidguard-14.apk

This is how I intalled microg on another phone and rom and it always worked.

So you have UnifiedNIp is registered in system - checked? For some reason I had to do the steps I mentioned to get it registered... hmm
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] gadgetguy08:
I noticed I had an issue with FakeGapps because the MicroG self check showed that sig spoofing failed. At some point after that, I found the Xposed logs showing many errors for Null Pointer exception. I searched around but could not find anyone else with the issue. I submitted an issue on github.

SatStat, OSM are open source apps that will show location on a map. They are able to locate me so I know it is working using UnifiedNlp Settings (shows in the Setting > Location settings).

I installed microG using NanoDroid 17.7 using the full package.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] DoR3M3:
How did you install Xposed?

Ok on NanoDroid 17.7...
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] gadgetguy08:
I installed Xposed Framework 90.2-beta3 systemless through Magisk.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] DoR3M3:
I'd use the Xposed Installer - XposedInstaller_3.1.5.apk;

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3034811

But I've learned a trick with it, flash rom and magisk, then install Xposed as the first app, and install the framework from within Xposed 'Install/Update' click cloud on right... :)

P.S. I'm not using Xposed any longer since it will break SafetyNet check....
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Masterguy:
Should I return my new Mate 10 pro?

very new here. Bought mate 10 pro from amazon recently. Absolutely love the phone. it's so snappy and has fantastic camera and battery life. infact got one for my wife who loves the phone too. But, there are news/rumours circulating that Huawei plans to completely abandon mate 10 pro in north America and last update was in sometime in march.

While rest of the world with same model gets updates it looks like Huawei has turned a blind eye to customers who purchased in the US.

I'm not on of those guys who is willing to root or change device version to get updates. it is one of the reasons to buy a premium device. I'm wondering if I should carry a premium device with no updates in the horizon. I mean I'm not really sure if there is any point in doing so.

Still have about 10 days left. Should I return it or just hope Huawei will update this device and hold on?

are there other easy options to get timely updates?your thoughts pls....

https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-gpu-turbo-update-phone-list-886196/
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] pablo11:
Actually, I think that the US made it extremely difficult for Huawei to sell their product.

So they might have reason to hold back on US handsets.... I just remember that Huawei were almost blacklisted in the USA for a while.....
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Masterguy:
They are infact updating other models. Not sure why they are holding this back.

Decisions! Decisions!!

So love this phone. Hunt for another crappy samsung phone will leave me high and dry.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
Hard question, huawei support will probably give you a bs answer so thzat you keep the phone.

I havent heard that they are abandoning the US handsets from what I heard they just late on updates but so are the UK and Australia. For all i know you should not keep the phone if timely updates are important to you.

If you love the phone exept for that one fact i think it is worth keeping it. there is no perfect phone and if updates are not your biggest concern then be it. LG and samsung lack behind on updates even more. so in this regard you are still alright (my friend once did not receive one update in 6 months on his s8 last year) LG v30 (flagship of last year) just got the oreo update.

If you ask me your phone wont be hacked and destroyed if you dont have the latest android security patches (many oems got caught faking the newest versions anyway). and for the safety of your data: lol you give them away for free to all those tech companies anyway so why bother, the intelligence services already have access.

and especially all this huawei is a bad chinese spying company stories are completely made up and not backed by any evidence. this is coming from the only country that actually got caught (snowden leaks) so i would highly doubt everything these "intelligence" services say without providing solid evidence.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] KevinAce:
I called support yesterday after seeing that article. They told me the US Mate 10 Pro is definitely getting face unlock, camera enhancements and EMUI 8.1 but no guarantee on GPU Turbo... It sucks. I am disappointed. You are better off returning the Mate 10 Pro and getting a P20 Pro. The P20 Pro allows for VoLTE on US carriers including T-Mobile and AT&T out of the box and then you'll get the updates we all want. The international version of the Mate 10 Pro, the BLA-L29, does not support VoLTE out of the box. You have to unlock bootloader and root the phone to make that work and then you'll get the updates you want but I believe every time you update your phone from that point on, you have to set it up from scratch...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] shreyashmalani:
I contacted Huawei service as well and they did mention that US version will get an update. I guess US model will be among the last to receive updates as Huawei really doesn't have much market here so they would focus more on other regions. If slow software updates bugs you, yes return the phone. I have been using this phone for 6 months now and i like it except for few s/w bugs which are annoying but not deal breaker for me. Hopefully 8.1 will fix most of those.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] KevinAce:
US is not getting GPU update. But seemingly everything else but last in line
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Masterguy:
spoke with CSR. He didn't give out too much information. He said that this is a new device and chances for not having updates is highly unlikely given huawei is selling these phones as unlocked in US with warranty.

He said it may get delayed depending on when the software is tested and ready for release. But again no commits since he didn't have any dates. The only thing he told was he cannot comment on news from third party sites.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Masterguy:
Don't get hung up on GPU turbo update. I work for the world's best GPU company (NVIDIA) . The numbers they quote are usually fudged. Yes you can have 10-15% perf enhancement with improved power efficiency, But don't read too much into it.

Now coming back to my usage, I rarely game. My usage is usually email, browser, messages, maps. I have moved away from all this phone gaming 3-4 years back. So your news that all updates except GPU turbo update sounds encouraging to me. But then again I'm not sure if I want to buy a sales tech support specialist. Still dilly dallying on my decision to keep the phone or not.

Phone is too good. Just worried about not even getting security updates let alone major updates.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] KevinAce:
You make excellent points. I don't game on my phone either. They are making the USA wait the longest just with general updates which I'm unhappy with on my BLA-A09. And on my home rig I have a GTX 1080. I'm very happy with Nvidia.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Masterguy:
You are worried about long wait. I'm worried about never ending wait :) . Phone is just sooo fluid. it just flies.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
Not true I have bla-l29 c432 and volte works just fine since I bought it in January. Just not all carriers support it.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] KevinAce:
The BLA-L29 works in the USA with VoLTE with which carriers? Maybe you misunderstand me? I said the BLA-L29 does not work with any US carriers with VoLTE. Huawei locked it down since they have a US version of the phone, the BLA-A09.

I'm sincerely curious because I've tried many and have not had success. Definitely did not work with T-Mobile...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
lol sorry i just read the part with the mate 10 pro, skipped details on the p20 sentence. sorry
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] mister_tu:
Just picked one up as well on Amazon prime day and also felt a little weary because of lack of updates and also spoke to tech support and reassured me that updates will still come, but not in the manner the rest of the world is receiving. They still intend to be a player in the states in the future so it makes sense for them to continue to support their small fanbase currently in the states. And it seems they have a location in Texas dedicated for phone repairs, and maybe I'm reading too much into it, but hopefully it means they're investing/gambling on a future here in the states.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] penfold:
I have the mate 10 pro usa version ...If I had the option to get it today I would not get it, not because it's not a fantastic phone but because after speaking to their customer service today, the details which I posted in another thread, they have obviously relegated the usa models to unwanted cousin status. It's possible it may get future updates but it is not in their priorities.

I would either get a different make like the oneplus with usa support or get an international version of the P20 or the upcoming mate 20, definitely not a usa model, unless you get it at a bargain price.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Jerkies:
Hmm, still interested in buying, but maybe its better to spend the extra $30 on Amazon to get the international version (BLA-L29) and avoid the US model.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
Amazon Germany now sells it for 450€ compared to the starting price of 800€ (with tax). I think roughly 40% discount on whatever it started at in the US is a good deal. If you'd only save like 25% for a 'previous-year-flagship' i think its too expensive. Here in Germany/Europe prices of Android phones drop very fast. Especially LG and samsung. The G7 hit us with the ridiculous price of 850€ in Mai and dropped down to 575€ (30%) already, in just 2 months. Samsung S9 dropped from 850€ to 590€ (30%) in 4 months. Thats why the oneplus 6 isnt really the "cheap alternative" here, all the other phones, released before one plus, dropped to 500-600 already.

Then again I dont know how prices develop in the US in general. I would not suggest buying it for more than 65% of its starting price. Thats still too expensive for a phone that wont see much support and with last year's soc. (On the contrary, an extra good deal should be what justifies the bad update policy.)

If I had to choose today, I would opt for a OnePlus 6. It has an attractive price and software support, decent battery life and a faster (future proof) soc. I really think that all the downsides of the OnePlus (mono speaker, camera just under the top 5 and missing ip67) don't overshadow the overall package you get. Especially since there are the exact same waterproofing rubber bands used to seal up the phone than with all the ip67/8 phones.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] cyberdog433:
Same boat, I bought one on Prime Day. Fantastic phone, super fluid, quick, fastest camera I've ever used. The news since on the GPU update, which isn't the be-all as it only works with a limited number of titles at present, is worrisome. While I don't need constant android patches, once every month or two would be nice. - For some reason, I'm not a Samsung fan, can't explain it, just not. Came off a ZTE Axon 7, which was a great phone for 2 years, but the Mate 10 Pro just flies.

What are the options to rebrand to another country on the BLA-L09? - Worth doing, do we loose anything, does anything stop working, and can it still be done?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] antmunny:
I just saw that this phone is back down to $499 on Amazon. Then I remembered that the Huawei unlock program ends tomorrow...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] matemade:
Get a Oneplus 6. This would be the best choice for now.

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Get a Oneplus 6. This would be the best choice for now.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] mister_tu:
I have until August 16th to return my device and going to use it vigorously until then to make a decision on whether or not to return it. So far, the EMUI hasn't killed it for me as I just slapped on nova launcher, but I am finding a little quirky things that I wish I had stock android as I had on my oneplus 3.

I am in love with the speed and battery life and it's almost enough for me to deal with the slow (potentially non-existent) updates. In terms of hardware, I can't find anything comparable.

Phones that work in the US I would even consider

Oneplus 6: Notch and smaller battery

LG V30: Lack of ram, smaller battery, much more expensive

Samsung Note 8/S8 Plus: Lack of ram, smaller battery, slow Samsung updates

Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S: no waterproof rating, smaller battery, fragile ceramic body, not all US GSM bands supported

Google Pixel 2XL: slightly more expensive, smaller battery, questionable screen, lack of ram (BUT STOCK ANDROID)

Essential Phone: too glitchy; reports of lots of issues, poor camera, VERY fragile, super tiny battery

Anyways, it's so hard for me to turn away from this phone considering that I paid $500 on prime day, got the $70 credit for signing up for Amazon Chase credit card, and also saved an additional 5% for using said CC. That puts this phone in the $400 range for me. Very hard to beat that given the options.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] cross1989:
who told you bla-l29 does not support VoLTE??? its on my phone...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] KevinAce:
The BLA-L29 does not support VoLTE with the US carriers. The BLA-A09 does.

Obviously the BLA-L29 supports VoLTE with international carriers.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] mister_tu:
I know can't stop thinking, 'if Hillary was president, I'd have a fully supported huawei mate 10 pro us variant'
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mox512:
So as owner of Mate 10 pro, ill suggest you to return.

Phone has lot issues, that imo is not acceptable for such price tag.

1. You can't set up custom notifications sounds

2. It has glitches with fullscreen rotation in Crome.

3. BT stack is unstable, much more worse that previous Huawei phones.

4. Doesn't have wireless charging

5. Doesn't work properly with "Hello Google" when locked.

And in comparison to Mate P9 it has only two new features: PD and Desktop mode. And one improvement: Speaker is way much better now.

Add to that update delays and you will end up with cheap Xiaomi buggy stuff.

This means it doesn't worth it's money.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] mister_tu:
MOX512, i have not yet found any glitches on this phone - BT works fine (outside of the volume dimming when receiving notifications when i"m playing music).

Hello Google lock is a little annoyance - would like to get that feature resolved as I do use hands free a lot.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] mister_tu:
Btw, in the other forum, looks like Huawei starting rolling out US updates. Al beit a ****ty update, but I think it's a good sign that they are pushing out updates nonetheless.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Masterguy:
What updates? Any source? I haven't received anything.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
You can get the Rootless Pixel launcher (I dont like nova it just does not feel right to me) and an AOSP Theme (download from either google or EMUI Theme Factory app). this makes it almost stock android experience. Additionally you can download Google Wallpapers app, then download pixel live wallpapers from xda to complete the experience.

I would not just look at the hardware specs when comparing phones. all phones have smaller batteries but some have similar battery life like op6, pixel and v30. The notch is nothing bad, unless aesthetics are very important to you and you just dont like it. There is no downside from a usage point only aesthetics.

Some screenshots of me using Aurora Live wallpaper, it changes according to daytime and weather.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] XERO_Racer:
Is this a joke? LOL pretty damn ridiculous IMO

1. I can clearly set custom notification sounds for SMS, FB Messenger, and Gmail etc. (if there is anything i miss please clarify)

2. Never experienced a fullscreen glitch in Chrome

3. IDK what BT issues youre having but I NEVER had any issues in terms of stability

4. This is a pretty stupid excuse, while wireless charging might be nice, but most people still use the cable, look at the OP6, it doesnt even have wireless charging and its basically a top tier phone again this is a pretty ridiculous excuse to return a phone

5. While thats a valid issue, thats more of a minor nuisance

Quite honestly the whole complaining and whining about lack of updates is overboard, use the phone as intended, clearly your expectations are pretty silly for what this phone is going for price wise ATM

OP: I'd honestly keep the phone, dont let the lack of updates scare you, most of the time you wont even notice anything if you get an update, its just another security patch if anything, yes there is a supposedly a new update coming but is it going to give you superman abilities? Dont think so, new features are just there to keep you entertain, and most of the time it wont affect the phones everyday usability, maybe the face unlock will give you better convenience but thats about it
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mox512:
1. You can clearly custom notification ONLY for these 3 apps: Gmail, FBMessanger and SMS Messager. Try simple Microsoft Outlook and be surprised with difference in comparison to previous EMUI version. At least how it is for now for BLA-A09 8.0.0.112(C567). Really hope HW will hot fix this.

2. Lucky you. I didn't had them on Mate 9 on p*rnhub.c*m but i do have them on Mate 10 pro. And you know i put the site name with intention, to make sure that its well known site with enormous amount of traffic and they cannot pass such bug to production.

3. Once again, Jabra Elite 65t 50% of the time connecting without A2DP profile is a bummer, as well as my Camry loosing connection to phone from time to time even in middle of playback. I never had such stupid issues with Mate 9 with the same devices. And believe me i've done re-pairing and all this stuff that can be done without root.

4. I just want to say that even latest iPhone/Galaxy has wirelesses charging and next Pixels going to get it. And IMO its time to put this feature in, since glass back is already there.

Please, do not bring this cheap Plus and/or Xiaomi stuff as comparison. Huawei, Apple, Samsung is building SOC. I know that it's not obvious for non tech people, but these so called manufactures just follow Qualcomm suggested design patterns, and procure components that complement SOC. The only thing they actually invent is bloatware and phone names.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Masterguy:
I have been able to set different notifications for different apps. My outlook, whatsapp, SMS all have different settings.

Regarding, wireless charging, it was a feature that was never advertised. I'm not sure why you would have gripes on a feature that never existed. If Apple and samsung are offering it and if you specifically want that feature you should buy them. I personally don't care. The provided wall charger charges my phone rapidly and I'm happy about it.

BT issues, yes i have seen quiet a few complaints. wondering if its the aggressive battery thingy that is causing it. I haven't experienced anything yet.

BTW I received July update. I was of the opinion Huawei would completely abandon the device. Looks like not. hopefully 8.1 comes soon too.