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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] TrueMS:
What about drivers? Trying new cable? If you flashed some ROM, kernel could be bugged - not allowing connection with PC. In your case I would reflash stock newest ROM. In my case the newest ROM (8.1) is good for me. Everything works good and connecting to PC too.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] dems7:
i told you,same drivers & usb cable just working fine with another mi a1.

Can i flash rom /twrp without connecting pc?

My device doesn't have twrp installed on it
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] TrueMS:
Does fastboot work?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] dems7:
no.in fastboot mode also not connecting to pc
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] TrueMS:
Well... I have no idea, can you charge the phone? So you can check if the USB connector is fine. And a question, doesnt it have installed TWRP already...? Everything is possible...
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] dems7:
it's charging well.same usb cable connects with my same pc easily with other mi a1.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] TrueMS:
The owner of the phone must have somehow corrupted something - kernel, ROM, drivers... I dont know but something must be bad. Not sure how to fix it.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] dems7:
owner says he never connected it to pc.

Ok,whatever,now can i flash stock rom without connecting to pc
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] TrueMS:
I guess you cant, but you can try to update with the updater in the settings. Does it have some custom ROM or stock?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] _mysiak_:
Did you install drivers for your phone? As far as I know, it must be done for every connected phone manually. What do you see in device manager when you connect your phone while it's on and in fastboot mode?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] dems7:
it have stock rom,may 18 security patch updated,oreo 8.0.0

I installed drivers manually for mi a1,as i say i can connect my friend's mi a1 easily on same pc.

My phone on device manager showing 5 tag of "bluetooth device"...on searching for drivers online....after few secs it says.....can't find.

From mi forum i got some help,tried but no success.....

i opened "let me pick list....." it showed in left column 2 options google,inc & samsung electronics.in google on right column options are 1) android ADB interface v 11.0.0.0(28.8.14) 2) android bootloader interface v 11.0.0.0 3)android composite ADB interface v.11.0.0.0. 4)%usb/nvidiaUsb.deviceDesc% etc.... 5)%usb/vid_04e8&pid_681c&mi_04device descrelease

One good guy from this forum suggested--c:windows:inf:wpdmtp installation by righ click on this file....i tried,it shows...the INF file you selected doesn't support this method of installation.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] apexashwin:
Try diff cable? Had the excat problem on op3 fixed it by using original cable
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] dems7:
it's original cable.it connects other mi A1 easy with my pc.only mine not connecting
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] N1ck474:
Then Force root with Apps like "kingroot' (i don't like apps like that but if you haven't any possibility...), Then try to install TWRP from Flashify (idk if it works with A/B) then from TWRP install another rom.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] dems7:
let me try.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] 143raja:
Close MI Flash Tool application before connecting your phone to pc.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] dems7:
kingroot not working.i tried yesterday.

Is unlocked phone come under guarantee?It's 10 month old.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] Smikel Philip:
Any updates on this issue? I have the same problem. I think mine started after Android 9 update. It used to work before. Thats how I used to share my files from phone to PC. Now when I connect it, the starts charging. But there is no notification in the phone or the PC. Any solutions?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] ZeroSlasher:
i too had this issue once I was in stock oreo, don't remember how it happened. Only thing that was working was proper charging. No MTP, No fastboot and edl. Fastboot recognised the phone something like "usb descriptor request failed". Tried a lot of things to fix it. But none worked. At last i got the monthly update and it made everything right and things went back to normal and phone started to get recognised in MTP, Fastboot as well.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] minlinsez:
I had same problem at my mi a1 after update Android 9. I can connect with my PC before update. I thought there were some reason why we can't connect to PC . I thought because we are unlocked and root ours mi a1 and we are update our devices via otg. That were corrupted software problem and we cannot connect to our PC anymore. I was still waiting for sort this problem .
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] jhs.bdn:
Any solution to this? It's happening to me since july update. Not sorted with recent august update. Any help would be appreciated.

Update: i can't use my new dac in the phone. It's like usb socket only functional for charge. Damn it!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
I'm about to get my first hearing aids. Four years after cancer diagnosis my hearing loss is moderately severe, thanks to ototoxic Cisplatin chemo.

Modern hearing aids link to devices via Bluetooth Low Energy (BTle) protocol adopted by hearing aid manufacturers. Apple developed and patented a BTle protocol they call MFI (Made for iPhone.) Almost all hearing aids support it.

Android does not have that Apple licensed protocol, so Android users need third device that links to the phone and links to the hearing aids and passes phone calls or music streaming to the HAs. Most third party devices have batteries that last 4-6 hours, and cost $3-$600 in addition to the $4-6K for hearing aids. Getting an iPhone is the solution, seems most HA users have iPhones (I found an HA forum with good users and info on the web.)

There is information that Android P will support direct connection to hearing aids.

https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-2-bluetooth-hearing-aids-android-p/

Reading the DP Program Timeline, DP4 should be a Release Candidate with final APIs in place for testing. https://developer.android.com/preview/overview
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] MishaalRahman:
Looking forward to an answer regarding this. I would love to update the article to confirm it works.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] renndachserl:
I also buyed an iPhone in order to test the connectivity to my aids but I'm a bit dissapointed of iOS.

Looking forward to get some information about the new hearing aid connectivity features in Android P - can somebody report if they are already integrated the the developer preview builds?

Hope that not only Pixel devices will support them, because I'm actually very happy with the OnePlus devices. Maybe there would be a way to enable them on non-Pixel devices.

Regards,

dachserl
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] s1dest3pnate:
So is the belief that Android P will allow non-A2DP hearing aids to stream audio/music? My dad has non-A2DP hearings aids (has to use a separate transmitter between the hearing aids and the phone to be able to stream music) and I have DP4 installed, so I can probably test this but I'd like to confirm first if my understanding is correct.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] renndachserl:
Hi,

yes, streaming audio, making phone calls like with Made for iPhone (MFI) aids.

See this article: https://www.xda-developers.com/android-getting-support-for-bluetooth-hearing-aids/amp/

Would bei very nice if you and your dad could test and report if it is already part of the DP4 version.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
It is not visible or useable in DP4.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] renndachserl:
Do you know any date for the final release?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] STraver:
I use Oticon OPN HA's and am on DP4 using a Pixel XL. I don't see anything in the menu that suggests HA support is now available. I don't know when the final release of P will be.

I got my hearing aids 2 years ago and had to buy an iphone because only apple had the low power bluetooth which the OPN's use. My understanding is that this tech is proprietary to apple. Two developments since then. One is Oticon released a version of it's Oticon ON software for android. It doesn't allow streaming but will allow you to change programs and volume on the HA's. This spring Oticon released its "ConnectClip" device, about the size of a match book, which connects regular bluetooth to the low power bluetooth used by the HA's. You can pair your pixel to the connect clip and it will act as an interface and stream and manage phone calls. The other advantage with the connect clip is that it will work with any bluetooth device, i.e. laptop, tablet, etc. I paid $150 for it.

Hope this helps.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
Did you read my first post?

Hint - second link

-> click it and read <-
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
Did you see the first link in my first post? It has proof that P shows HA support, but it is hidden code for now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] STraver:
No I didn't but I'll check it out. My Dr. always said Android would offer support at some point.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] lucky_strike33:
I would wait till DP 5 which should come out in first week of August. I also wear a hearing aid that works well with Iphone and have a dongle for the android. Its a pita!

I have the ReSound Hearing Aid.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] s1dest3pnate:
I've got my dad installing DP4 now. I'll let you know probably either tonight or tomorrow whether HA streaming support works or not.

Update: DP4 installed on Pixel 2. Phonak HAs were already paired but saw no additional option for music streaming (still only Phone and Contacts options). Tried YouTube any way but audio still came through the phone instead of HA. Went to Developer Options and didn't see anything related in there. Unpaired/forgot the HAs, re-paired but still to no avail.

Thoughts? Do you think they just haven't implemented it in DP4 and maybe it'll be in the final?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Meandering Wanderer:
Just throwing this out there for consideration, when Google enables HA support in DP5 or full version of P, wouldn't we be waiting on the HA manufactures for firmware updates to the HA's themselves. My thought is that the HA's that have a made for iphone designation or even just a generic bluetooth ability, it's the HA firmware that enables the features.

I just received my first set of HA's, Oticon OPN 2 miniRITE, and I'm looking at getting the Oticon ConnectClip to give me the ability to stream. Oticon could take years to implement the android features into their firmware.

What are your thoughts? Firmware updates needed??
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] shennings1:
I sure hope Google helps us out with Android P. I have used an iphone with my widex hearing aids for about a year now... sucks. Soooo ready to get back to Android.

---------- Post added at 10:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:28 PM ----------

I think the Manufactures would race to get that streaming technology to their hearing aids if Android comes through.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] s1dest3pnate:
No change with DP5 either. No option in Bluetooth settings for media/audio/streaming.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
Accessibility Settings? That is where I would expect them. Not that it matters really, but MFI support is in accessibility settings, as most HA users and Audiologists look for them on fitting setup.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] lucky_strike33:
There is nothing in accessibility settings. I tried to connect with the HA but it doesn't pickup the hearing aid. I sometimes get GN to pop up but doesn't connect
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] s1dest3pnate:
With P being out now, we need to check this again. My dad is out of town but I'll have him check when he gets back. Can anyone else check in the meantime?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] lucky_strike33:
I just tried with the resound gn. When trying to add the HA the GN shows up and able to connect but I can't hear any music in Spotify. Still missing code I believe.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
Thanks for the update [MENTION=5265802]lucky_strike33[/MENTION]. I am getting mine this week. I'm active on the Hearing Tracker Forums, and a couple members there who have HAs tried too after the Pie update and no "hearing aid Bluetooth profile" or "hearing aid manager".

I guess Google is holding off enabling these until later like the Digital Well Being and Slices will be later. It might be active with the next few monthly security updates, or maybe not until the Pixel 3 in early October.

I sure wish we knew. I may switch to an iPhone soon, from all I have read about MFI features and the disadvantages of Android with HAs and an intermediary device. :(
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] lucky_strike33:
I have an old iPhone 5 that I am using for workouts. It works great with the HA.

I'm wondering if the Bluetooth for Android needs new hardware in order for the HAs to work on Android phones. If it's just simple code then they may be having problems implementing them to the phone?? I wish I knew as well!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Badger50:
Iphone!?? Say it ain't so Joe! But I do understand my friend. Gotta do what ya gotta do :cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] shennings1:
Blue Tooth Hearing Aids and Iphone

I will be the first to say that I am no fan of the Iphone.

But... I switched to Iphone last fall to take advantage of the Hearing Aid Streaming Technology.

I have the Widex Beyond 330's, both ears. I started out with my much loved Pixel and Comdex device to stream... what a pain and just did not work well... at all.

I gave in and bought the Iphone 8 plus, and it works very well.

Streaming directly from my phone to the hearing aids has been life changing

.

If you have a friend that has an iphone, you can easily try it out with their phone.

Having said all that - I will be one of the first to consider jumping off the iphone ship if and when android brings direct streaming to hearing aids. I waiting!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
That is an unknown as well.. It depends on how the BT for hearing aids is implemented by Google. On the hearing aid forums, many think that the HA manufacturers will need to add hardware to make this work, others think that a firmware update to the HAs may suffice. Some think this Android HA support may take up to two years to roll out. Who knows?

Yeah, my friend, I know. I have a Pixel 2 XL, and Android smartwatch I like (LG Watch Sport), a Pixelbook, two Google Home Max, three Google Home Mini, one Chromecast, and a Vizio smart TV that I cast to with MLB at Bat, Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Google Movies. I subscribe to Play Music (got it during roll out @ $7.99 / mo.). Ugh. ugh. ugh. :rolleyes:

I've searched long and hard, and I can add most Google apps to the iPhone to use the features that I am immersed in, but still, ugh.

On the hearing aid forums I have found a couple users who swear by the intermediary devices, not so much because they can connect to Android, but the fact that they connect them to multiple devices, like landline phones, computers, two way radios, and anything with Bluetooth. That is something to consider.

I'm going to trial two different HA brands in parallel for the next 60 days, so I will see. I also have checked and Apple has a 14 day return policy, so that may get squeezed in as well.

This technoweenie is getting over his techo geek head. :cyclops: :D :(
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
More info from the last few days. It appears now that new HAs *may* be needed for direct Android connections, though it is not entirely clear.

Press release partnership with GN ReSound and Google:

http://www.gn.com/Newsroom/News/2018/August/GN-Hearing-and-Google-announce-partnership

New GN ReSound HA model "Quattro" / Beltone "Amaze"

http://www.gn.com/Newsroom/News/2018/August/GN-Hearing-announces-new-Premium-Plus-hearing-aid

Here is the Google technical page on "Audio Streaming for Hearing Aids (ASHA) on Bluetooth Low Energy Connection-Oriented Channels"

https://source.android.com/devices/bluetooth/asha
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah I just saw this article:

Google is developing native hearing aid support for Android https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...native-hearing-aid-support-android-gn-hearing
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
All the sites looking for new click bait, including the Android fanzines are grabbing it from here, the best sources.

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2018/08/streaming-support-spec-for-hearing-aids_16.html

https://source.android.com/devices/bluetooth/asha
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah I know where they grabbed it from. They linked it in the article. I don't know about it being click bait but just saying it's good it's made main stream tech sites.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] lucky_strike33:
What this means is we will need to get new hearing aids?? In order to work with Android??
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
It is not clear yet, but it does look like that now. The just announced ReSound Quattro, the new chip enables 100% faster processing, 100% additional memory, 35% increase in frequency bandwidth. That might be needed with the new BTLE processing to enable the "minimal impact on battery life with low-latency while maintaining a high quality audio experience".

We were hoping that a firmware update for existing HAs would be all that is needed, but it appears new chips with more processing power is required too.

Mostly it is now a wait and see into September or October. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
Agreed that it is good to hit the mainstream tech sites.

Sorry, was cranky over another frustrating experience at a HA clinic with being treated like a senior retard by the HIS there. They all think if you are old and need hearing aids, then your brain only has the ability of a two year old. I've been through three clinics like that, on to # 4. (sigh)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
Well, the price of having a direct Android connection with an hearing aid is pretty steep! Sounds like just the Pie update with that support will not work with any existing hearing aid.

From the hearing aid forums:

https://www.resound.com/en-us/hearing-aids/resound-hearing-aids/quattro

Makes buying a new phone and watch for $1250 much more attractive, even if it is an iPhone / iWatch that has the direct connection already built in. :rolleyes: :eek:

I have Costco ReSound Forte 8 (ReSound LINX 3D) and Phone Clip+ (a humongous P.I.T.A.) now for under $2900, though I'm in the trial period and can return until Feb. 2019. The logic of an extra $5000+ just to use my Pixel 2 XL without the Phone Clip+ dongle defies logic. I'm waiting until the Google event on Oct. 9th in the hopes that what I know now is incorrect and existing HAs can be upgraded with Pie.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
Well, heck! Looks like the direct Android HA support is farther away than we hoped. And since I have had mine for a month and a half, I'm not going to spend $6k to $8k again soon to get new ones that will work with my Pixel 2 XL.

http://www.startribune.com/gn-hearing-hopes-to-connect-android-phones-and-hearing-aids/495218801/

hopes to connect" :(

I tested a loaner iPhone for a week, and it made the experience of wearing and using hearing aids much richer of an experience. I'll visit the Apple store in town tomorrow. The release of the Pixel 3 phones and the total lack of any mention of direct HA connectivity at the launch event makes this decision much easier. :rolleyes:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
Things are changing fast, not only have the smartphone companies released or announced new products, but it appears that fall is the time that new hearing aids release as well. I posted above about the ReSound Quattro and Google working on direct hearing aid support with Android. Word out there now is both have indefinitely delayed release of the software updates to do this direct connection for Android.

Now Phonak has a press release to announce new hearing aids that will stream with Bluetooth to any device that uses bluetooth, Android, iOS, Mac, Windows, Linux, any and all bluetooth devices. Here is the write up:

https://www.hearingtracker.com/phonak-launches-first-real-bluetooth-hearing-aid

High points:

Stereo Bluetooth streaming - Streaming from iPhone, iPad, MacOS, Android, Windows, and any other Bluetooth-enabled audio device.

Hands-free calling in stereo - True hands-free calling from Bluetooth-enabled phones and VOIP services like Skype.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
That's definitely something that I would love my father to get. It's great he can text but he avoids phone/video calls because it's difficult for him. Thanks for the share.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] leonardopsantos:
Enabling Android ASHA on Pie

I've not been following the whole thread, but read the last messages, so I apologize if I'm repeating something that has already been said.

The last Android build for the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL I tried was one month ago and the stock Android does not have ASHA enabled. You need to download the source code, enable ASHA, compile it and flash your phone. I can confirm that build PQ1A.181105.017.A1 has support for ASHA on the Pixel 2 XL. I believe HA manufacturers are gearing up to have products supporting ASHA. As fas as I can tell, any Bluethooth Low Energy HA might support ASHA with a firmware upgrade.

Disclaimer: I do not work for a HA manufacturer.

Cheers!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
Here is an update that brings this thread up to speed. Google released two new "hearing loss" features / apps that, for now, need wired headphones. Those who use BT headphones or earbuds (or hearing aids) are still SOL.

https://www.hearingtracker.com/news/google-sound-amplifier

My primary phone is now iPhone (gawd I hate to say that), but I keep my Pixel 2 XL updated, waiting for when there is actually direct hearing aid support that Google and GN ReSound have promised. GN ReSound Quattro is the HA that is promised to work with a firmware update whenever Google releases that support in Pie. Also Phonak has released the Marvel that works with standard BT (not Apple proprietary MFI) and works with Android phones, though reports from those with Marvels report quite a few glitches. Still it is a huge improvement with much promise for the future of those of us with hearing loss.

tl;dr still waiting, fingers crossed
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Badger50:
Sorry about the ithing my friend! But ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Hopefully one of these days Das Google will get their *-*t together for HA users. My son recently switched to an ithing as well....my wife and I cut him out of our will the next day!! ???
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
Ima gonna 'dopt your "ithing" terminology, since I hate using that other ithing thang, :good: :cyclops:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pkt_Lnt:
Has anyone with HAs installed the Q DP1 beta? I usually wait until 4th or 5th release, I may jump in on this. :good:

This is exciting! Scroll down to the second entries under Accessibility.

https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-beta-changes-google-pixel/

edit - Reading again more carefully, one needs to enable the feature in the System Feature Flags setting in Developer options. That is explained in the section above this Accessibility section.

settings_bluetooth_hearing_aid: Enables you to pair a Bluetooth hearing aid.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] lucky_strike33:
I was able to enable it but couldn't get my hearing aid connected.