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[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] lottjam11:
No issues for me using non-rooted S9 (Android 10) as master and a rooted MK809V (Android 5.1) as slave.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrmrmrmr:
this result became stable now. Each time I connect the slave , same sh*t happens:

1. slave turns on BT and Hotspot

2. master connects to slave through wifi (HUR)

3. master says "android auto connected"

4. nothing on car Head Unit.

what's wrong ? what else should I try ?

I have other rooted slave phones to try but that would not make any change , I assume

I also have a MK809V but it is not Android 5.1 , should I downgrade that ? (is that even possible ?)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrmrmrmr:
My car is a Jeep Compass with UConnect 8.4

Is there anyone who could run this on similar car setup ? Thanks.

Master is running Pie or above and slave is tethering:

Running in root mode: Yes

If running in non-root mode, is the splashscreen visible on the car: root mode

If running in non-root mode, did you set the masters BT inside AAGW app?: root mode

Did the slave actually turned on the hotspot on the slave: Yes

On the master did you select the slaves BT in the Wifi Launcher app?: Yes

When the master connected to the car's BT did the Wifi launcher app started up?: Yes

Did the master connected to the slaves hotspot?: Yes

Did the AA icon appeared on the master at all (in the notification bar)?: Yes
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Netzmark:
Hi @mrmrmrmr, I have similar efects. In my oppinion WiFiLouncher is not able to run properly AndroidAuto to the wireless projection mode - on some phones. I have MIUI-messy Xiaomi Mi9/And10 and have behaviour moreless like you. But it works if I run AndroidAuto using Tasker after Emil's WiFiLouncher gets HUR connected.

Generally you need WiFiLouncher for nothing. You can disable it and BT as well. Then turn WiFI manually ON, choose HUR connection, and run Tasker to launch AndroidAuto - and then it works.

But I still have problems at the Slave side, everytime I must choose there that need to use AAGateway and Always - but it is not remembered choosing. Annoying for me.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrmrmrmr:
Hi,

I believe my situation is not identical to yours. But I am open to any ideas, and I will try you suggest.

But I didn't understand : with what trigger shall I launch Android Auto on tasker ?

And what process will be launched ? If it is simply Android Auto, I can also start manually to test.

(AndroidAuto to the wireless projection mode) - how do we do that ?

Why I don't think my situation is different:

1. I don'T use Xiaomi phone , as written by Emil, Xiaomi phones (MIUI makes a mess), try not to use it for Slave

2.. My master-slave communication is not broken. Master (phone) detects Android Auto and says "connected" as I wrote in previous post. So , there is no problem in WifiLauncher. It does its job.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Netzmark:
I cannot be convinced that WiFiLauncher does the job in your case fully succesfully or not, defineitely not in mine. I also get connection established but not AA displayed on the car.

Running AndroidAuto manually does not work, I have tried it of course. But ran by Tasker it does, so it looks like Tasker somehow forces "wireless projection" AA mode.

1. I use Xiaomi for Master not Slave.

2. My connection is not broken either but projection is not working.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrmrmrmr:
Ok. I just tried it with Tasker task provided by Emil.

Did not solve my issue. But I have a few questions to you:

1. If I use wifilauncher, it connects to HUR and also data connection is active , so the phone (master) can connect to internet. If I manually connect to HUR, data connection is still enabled but not used. Phone (master) loses internet connection. How did you solve this ?

2. On my slave phone (Galaxy S5 - rooted with unofficial Android 10 firmware) , I see that the cable (USB) connection is for charging, on notifications. I can change it to PTP / File Transfer / USB tethering manually. But I don't know which one is needed for AA. Do you have any idea on this ?

3. Which phone should I see on Car screen as connected ? Should I see the model name of slave or master phone ?

I still believe my problem is between slave and car.

I need help on that. I have many phones to test with. And I can change firmware of my S5. But I don't know which one would be successful.

I also have a TV stick but without a screen it is very difficult to make tests.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jimsey:
Wheres the best place to buy a rock pi s ?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Netzmark:
1. Android 10 is **** in this case. It sees strong Wifi connection and not paying attention there is no internet to stay with the mobile data. It's common problem and I have the same on Xiaomi and OnePlus (which is much less messy). Solutions:

- developers mode and "Mobile data always active". Not dreaming as mobile data charging, but does not work on Xiaomi however it shoud. Another Xiaomi bug I guess.

- forget HUR in WiFi manager and try connect again. This time ignore a message from Android that there is no Internet on the HUR and just wait. Some people say it will establish connection but don't try use it as internet providing. Does not work on Xiaomi.

- change wifi properties from DHCP to Static and remove Gateway IP data only, all the rest remain untouched. Save. Should be as above. Does not work on Xiaomi as cannot make Save with missing Gateway data, maybe your phone will allow it.

- change wifi properties from DHCP to Static and put IP 192.168.1.100, Gateway 192.168.1.1, Prefix 24. It's been worked in my case. Android throws a popup asking if I want to use Mobile data but Wifi connection is also established.

2. I would say you need set USB thethering but I'm not sure. I can't see a question like that on my <Oreo slave.

3. Dunno. I have a car head with Windows CE with apk handling some USB converter connected to USB. It is to allow AA over USB transmitting. Next I have Slave connected to the converter...

So it is Radio<->Converter<->Slave. So I see converter connected.

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Hmmmm, I'm really confused now :(.

Now it seems to me that the thread is gererally about an apk "Headunit Reloaded V5.2". Is this apk made to be installed directly on the car radio with Android having Wifi?

Because I use apk named "AAGateWay 2.2" being installed on some phone connected to the car radio over USB handling wired AndroidAuto.

But both use the same WiFiLauncher on the master phone.

Am I right or some total misunderstanding?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrmrmrmr:
Actually on my master (Samsung Note 10+ , stock Android 10) , HUR is identified as "not internet providing" but in any case it does not use mobile data. So it detects that the wifi is not providing internet. Also, if I use wifi launcher, it uses HUR but still uses mobile data for internet. How does wifilauncher do this ?

About question 2, I selected USB tethering but it did not help.

BUT, I have this new experience which the wireless AA works ;

As suggested by Emil, I tried this manual setup process:

[*] Getting rid of all automation and manually starting it all (regardless of Android version on master and slave):

Uninstall AAGW on the master (I guess this is Wifilauncher, not AAGW)

Start the headunit server from within Android Auto on the master

Create a hotspot on the master

Open AAGW on the slave and make sure it's not set to tether

in AAGW make sure you select the masters hotspot

Go to the car and plug the slave in

Start the car

If slave is running in ROOT mode, slave will first try to connect to the masters Wifi and you will see a notification on the master that AA is running, only then the car should recognise a plugged in device.

This works with my Slave (Galaxy S5) and the USB connection is identified as "USB Accessory connected"

So now I am considering to use this manual process.

But why doesn't the automated process work for me ?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Netzmark:
Emil's magic ;). In my case it doesn't work, manually or with WiFiLauncher done, my phone never wanted to use mobile data. Only when I've made what I said.

As I understand Master is our hand phone with AA and it need WiFiLauncher, Slave is the one connected the car and it needs a AAGW. So it is true what you guess (guessing I'm right :))

What do you mean "start the headunit server", what apk do you mean?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Robot Ross:
Hey,

Are you part of the beta test?

If so, contact Emil - he can direct you to the best reseller.

If not, then you'd be better waiting for the kickstarter. The final software (as far as I know) won't be running on the Rock Pi, but uses it's own hardware.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ntemis021:
i tried to coinnect my master (s8+ rooted) with my slave (leagoo m5 rooted) to my vw t-roc 2018 infotainment but with no luck.

i installed aagateway to my slave and did all the necessary settings

then i plyged it to my vw and poped a msg and choose aagateway always

then a pop screen to my vw apeared "aagateway is waiting for master connection"

then i made a hotspot in my master and connected the slave to it but nothing happened,

tried to run aa from my master but still nothing.

and i see that when i open bt to connect master with slave the wifi on slave goes off so i must keep turning it on to connect to hotspot.

should i make hotspot from my car?

anything that i might have forgotten?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ScrapMaker:
For me, WiFi launcher has never worked on Android 10 or 11. I've only started the HU server manually. The tasker route never worked either. I believe the intents must have changed. My goal was to get things working smoothly before worrying about the launcher, but now I think I'd rather just focus on the dongle version for overall less hassles.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrmrmrmr:
Head Unit Server is a feature of AA , not a separate app.

After you enable developer options in AA, you go into menu and start "head unit server"
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Netzmark:
Understand, thx.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrmrmrmr:
[MENTION=842765]Emil Borconi[/MENTION] , I know you are busy with your Kickstarter project, but I guess I need just a little help.

The manual method you wrote works for me. WHat may be the problem with the automated method ?

Thanks.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Netzmark:
Hello Gents,

Anybody know? There are TV stick versins http://ali.onl/1EFV and http://ali.onl/1EFX.

I'm not sure the difference except the RAM, RK cheaps are the same 3299 so this MK809V seems be only worse.

Any user of one of them here?

Is RAM capacity important in AA case? These 1GB are cheaper and more popular.

Important for me is the boot time after power on connecting, a reason is obvious I think.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrmrmrmr:
problem with TV stick.

today I tried X96S TV stick.

What I see is, when the Car HU detects AA it changes USB mode and at that point, since the TV stick has no other power supply its power is cut and the stick reboots.

is there a solution to that ?

How can I force USB mode of the TV stick to the correct mode so that it never gets changed ?

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weird problem on close (not identical but very close) phones.

I have an S4 mini and an S5 phone , they have same custom Android firmware.

On the S5, I can make the manual connection mode work.

But on the S4 mini same procedure does not work.

The only difference is that on the S4 it seems Android Auto is installed. When I connect the USB cable it asks me to choose between Android Auto or AAgateway

Is that a problem ? (having Android Auto installed on Slave)

How can I remove Android Auto ? (it is not displayed within the installed apps)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mandrsn1:
I can't wait for the Kickstarter. I'm backing it day 1.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DragonQ:
After a lot of trial and error I managed to get this working with my old Galaxy S5 (running LineageOS). I'm not sure if Android Auto will start on my master phone automatically without being rebooted each time though - I'll need to do more testing on this.

There are 2 issues that I've found so far:

* Lag. It's not too bad but there's a lot of stuttering when it zooms in and out of places in Google Maps, for example.

* My car charges from the USB port even with the engine off and the car off. I can't see a way to change this functionality, and am concerned that keeping the slave topped up will drain the 12V battery.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] GPSSlovakia:
is it possible to use it with VW infotainment MIB2.5 ?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] korangar98:
Can the slave run the wifi hotspot instead of the master?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Marshy33:
I've had success with a mib2 in my Skoda.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] paryav:
>>If you get a MK809IV try to get the one with Android 5.1.1 as the one with Android 7.1 has problems with the tethering.

Emil I found a MK809IV with Android 4.4.2 but otg not enabled by default. In settings I see parameter "USB: connect to PC "turned off by default. Its reset any time after reboot. Device has root. How I can setup it to on by default?

https://www.programmersought.com/article/526096232/

I have found this guide but : changing value direct in file revert value on exit editing to 1, only set in Settings USB change value to 2
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrmrmrmr:
is there anyone with information about these 2 issues ?

This is a great community and a very long thread. I believe there must be someone with identical setup and experience.

I'd appreciate any ideas on this please....
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DragonQ:
My S5 apparently has Android Auto installed because the first time I tried the whole procedure it asked if I wanted to launch Android Auto or AAGateway. So I don't think having Android Auto installed makes a difference.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] llaugerm:
I tried to follow the steps in the OP first post and my LG Aristo (slave) does not allow me to turn the tether on because I don't a sim card in it. I'm using the S20+ as a master running Android 10. I only get a message waiting to connect to Master on my Pioneer head unit. I can't even get it to work manually. Any input is greatly appreciated it.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ntemis021:
i have the exact msg on headunit and i do hotspot on my master and slave connects to it but still nothing.

the slave always says on top "headunit reloaded wifi service running..."

the master don't say anything.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] llaugerm:
Exactly what I have all the time.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] manu.com:
any chance I can install this on a chromecast?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ScrapMaker:
Is there some hack to run standard Android on it?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DragonQ:
Played with it for another 20 minutes today. The whole "detect Bluetooth connection -> connect to WiFi hotspot -> start Android Auto" chain seemed to work fine but the car just wouldn't let me start Android Auto. It worked once, after I rebooted my master, then never again.

The other problem is that whilst the master is connected to the slave's WiFi hotspot, it tries to use that WiFi connection for data rather than 4G. Thus, Google Maps just says "no data" all the time. Any ideas how to fix this?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] llaugerm:
I just gave up with this. I may get another radio with wireless android auto or wait for the dongle.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ScrapMaker:
Run the hotspot on the master, perhaps?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] pavichokche:
Hey Emil, I was just wondering. In your testing, how does the performance of your device compare to wired Android Auto and to the wireless master-slave solution of AAGW? What phone did you use to test?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DragonQ:
I just followed the OP instructions and it says there that for masters running Android 9+, you should create the hotspot on the slave. I assumed this distinction was made because there was some issue creating the hotspot on the master with Android 9+. Are you saying it would work that way round?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ScrapMaker:
Others can correct me if I'm wrong here, but my understanding is the reason why they have Android 9+ call-out has to do with the feature where you can remain connected to a WiFi network AND use LTE. Previous versions would have an issue where the master would not have any internet in the scenario where the slave hotspot did not have an active SIM.

I can tell you that, technically-speaking, the AA HU server is accessible regardless of which is performing the hotspot function. Heck, I bet both devices could be on the same external wifi network. (Never tested that though.) I've successfully tested Android 11 beta 3 for master (hotspot) and slave with 7, 8, and 9, (no hotspot,) and also reversing the hotspot roles. The only caveat for me is that WiFi launcher has never worked for me on Android 10/11 on my Pixel 4 XL. I've had to start HU server manually. Even the tasker option fails to do anything. Given the development effort of the dongle, I've not spent much time trying to fix the issues I've had with my other testing.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] gettes:
Interesting read.

Engadget: Android 11 will offer wireless Android Auto features on most phones.

https://www.engadget.com/all-android-11-wireless-android-auto-support-121515285.html
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ScrapMaker:
I don't understand...I thought everyone had wireless projection in the AA settings...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrniceguy1437:
Based on what I just read in the article, I'd assume you have either a Pixel, Nexus or Samsung?

Anyhow, the auto unit still needs to support the wireless feature...which is the reason main reason most of us are here.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] empty_space:
I saw that too. Doesn't matter for most of us looking through this thread I bet, because the head unit has to support wireless anyway. No wireless on my 2020 Tacoma :(

Tried AAGW with my pixel 2 (android 10) and note 4 (Android 6.1). No luck anyway I tried. Tried the pixel being the hotspot host, note 4 as the host, and all the combinations possible of those two options and all the options in AAGW. Hope that kickstarter solution happens soon

Edit: Just noticed mrniceguy1437 said the same thing
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrmrmrmr:
[MENTION=842765]Emil Borconi[/MENTION]

will there be a "software only" option on your Kickstart project , for the ones who already own a Rock Pi S ?

It would be easier for some, because that way we wouldn't wait for shipment and customs
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] CappyT:
+1 on this, some of us know linux and can do such thing in a matter of hours, while kickstarter can hold us back months (or years)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] stiaga:
The same for me.

Inviato dal mio Redmi Note 9 Pro utilizzando Tapatalk
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] sibesaver:
Strange. I have a flawless working setup.

Headunit Kenwood DDX9704s

Master Pixel 2xl non-rooted latest Android 10

Slave OG Pixel non-rooted hotspot Android 10 no sim

Still looking forward to Kickstarter because a dedicated updateable device insures updates to phone/AA become non-issues.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ScrapMaker:
Does anyone have a Pixel 4 XL or Android 11 device that actually loads up the headunit with Wifi Launcher? I've always had to launch it manually.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] empty_space:
Hmm, I'll have to see if I can find a gen 1 pixel for cheap. Thanks for posting your setup

Both of my devices are rooted.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] apoorvchandra:
Everything was working great for me until AA updated yesterday and now nothing happens. Anyone else?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ScrapMaker:
Out of curiosity, did you check your AA settings for wireless projection? Apparently that's a thing now. Mine was already enabled, but I think it's because I had a Pixel. This definitely explains a lot of the complication I was having with running the HU manually/using WifiLauncher, etc.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] apoorvchandra:
I have Pixel 4 XL, and I cleared app data and started from scractch (on both Wifi Launcher and AA.)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ScrapMaker:
You still use Wifi Launcher? I thought that was unnecessary with the wireless projection AA update. Anyhow, I just went out to play with my setup, and without WL, I can still only get the link when I manually start the HU. I'll admit that it seems a bit more flakey than before. Perhaps the update is messing with something.

I've never had success with WL and P4XL. Guess I'll try it again, and clear the data on AA completely. Thing is, I've factory reset my phone about 30 times in the last 2 months, as I tried all these tests, and still didn't get any traction. That's why the dongle is so much more appealing to me.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] apoorvchandra:
I had almost a 100% success rate with a MK809V-4K stick that someone has linked a few pages before, and the P4XL. It's only the latest AA update that screwed things up - it still loads AA, but it freezes the headunit.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] bensonburns:
Notification list

[MENTION=224120]Emil[/MENTION]

Is this the only location you'll be giving updates? If there's an email dist list or something I'd like to get on because I will definitely be buying in the first run if at all possible.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] avallk:
It's the 23rd... is it up yet? :fingers-crossed:
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] PeQuEsan:
Quick question, as I've not seen minimum specs for slave... Should an old Android 4.4.2 work (rooted)?

Enviado desde mi Pixel 4 XL mediante Tapatalk
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Hazou:
It worked on my old Razr I android 4.4.4
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mrmrmrmr:
any ideas on these 2 issues ?

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I'd really appreciate if I can get an answer to this.

My colleague is bringing Rock Pi S for another project. If this would help me I will order a spare one to use with this project.

Also, do we need a Rock Pi s with 1GB Nand or is that (Nand memory) unnecessary ?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] pavichokche:
I already asked this question and got an answer here: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=83153141&postcount=2944
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] LLStarks:
The idea is to use the nand instead of asking users to use a microsd, which could be slower. The board will boot from either.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] 49ml:
[MENTION=842765]Emil Borconi[/MENTION] are there any updates on this? Is the Kickstarter coming soon? I'm ready to buy!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] dogiex:
Same here. My F5 is already worn out! [emoji23]
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ScrapMaker:
Don't worry, we're all in the same boat :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] MangoScango:
+1 for the Kickstarter hype train.

In the meantime, has anyone tried out some of the old Nexus phones? I think a Nexus 5 / 5X would be ideal for this (want something running at least 6.0 for 5Ghz hotspot). Does anyone know if these phones react properly to having their USB disabled once rooted?