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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Treble doesn't matter in this regard.

LG has promised updates for V30 and G6 every 90 days (starting with Oreo) for THREE YEARS so they would be placed on

Google's endorsed business program.

You will get that, with or without Treble. Treble will not make OEM/carrier push out updates and faster than they wish.

LG has NOT made similar promise with 2018 G7 and V35 (which launched with Oreo and has official Treble). So, will be interesting to see if they also get at-least 90 day updates. ;)

Treble makes updates technically easier for OEM/carrier, but does not mandate them.

Whereas, Google's endorsed business program DOES mandate updates, and V30 will have updates with or without Treble.

Android Enterprise Recommended requirements

See? Treble doesn't matter for updates.

So, now that V30 has Oreo we will get updates every 90 days, supposedly for THREE years.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] SGCMarkus:
Check out https://www.android.com/enterprise/device-catalog/ ;)

Basically every LG phone is on that list by now O.o (yes, also the G7 and V35).

But what im more annoyed by is that some LG low/mid end devices got an update to android 8.1.0, while the flagships are all stuck on 8.0.0
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
There's a difference between Android Enterprise Recommended Certification and just "Enterprise".

https://www.android.com/enterprise/recommended/

I quoted the specific Recommended requirements, like security updates every 90 days. Does just basic Enterprise have requirements?

Here's the Android Enterprise RECOMMENDED list, and G7 and V35 are not on there.

https://androidenterprisepartners.withgoogle.com/#!/results/browse-all/2
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] GrazzaD:
Thanks guys. LG made similar promises with the V20 and the update releases for my phone have been terrible. Really poor. My brother had a G5 and that's been even worse. I'll be switching to a Nokia (Treble enabled!).
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Well, V20 isn't on Google's Enterprise Recommended program list. Neither is G5.

What does Nokia have that can even compare to the LG V30? Believe me, I looked at all the phones last year and V30 was the best, with too-big Galaxy Note coming in 2nd. Nokia has also dropped the headset jack and has no Qi wireless charging. At that point you might as well buy a Pixel 2 XL, which also comes in behind the premium features of the LG V30.

LG has to give at least security updates for three year's for the two phones on that Google Enterprise Recommended list -- V30 and G6 -- starting with Oreo. Every 90 days is the minimum, from what I can read. They can do more, if they wish.

So far, they have done it. We have 20A and 20B for US998. Europe H930 has had two Oreo releases. Canada H933 received their first Oreo update in May and are supposed to receive their 2nd this month, according to the carriers.

Custom ROMs from major dev groups of course have MONTHLY updates.

V30 has several of those

-- but I assume we are discussing official OEM/carrier updates?

OEMs/carriers will still release updates when they wish, even with Treble. Treble doesn't force them to release updates.

Whereas this commitment to Google's Enterprise Recommended program DOES force an OEM update schedule commitment for three years.

I think this was some of the reason for the delay in LG rolling out Oreo for V30... LG knows once Oreo is released, the regular updates have to start for all the variants in this program.

I'm not defending LG horrible update history for other devices. (Motorola is equally bad, for the last phone I owned.) But I'm curious to see how LG phones which do have Treble (V35, G7) fare vs. those which are on this Enterprise Recommended program and which don't have Treble (V30, G6). ;) Hopefully, LG will improve on ALL current devices, but this Google Enterprise Recommended program holds their feet to the fire.
[Fire TV General] calatravo1:
hi guys,

i have a question about using ps 4 controllers on the firetv stick. i managed to use them about a half year ago but now the way i used seems not to work any more (changed the BT MAC adress manually).

now do u know if there is a way to connect them without root or with root? i just want to play games over moonlight streaming.

am i able to root my fire tv stick one on the latest firmware?

thank you for your help!

calatravo
[Fire TV General] rainman74:
The Fire Stick 1 is toooooo slow to play games via Moonlight anyway. I strongly advise against it.

Yes, you can root the stick if you have a firmware lower than 5.2.6.1.
[Fire TV General] calatravo1:
Okay so is IT possible to Connect ps4 Controller with fire TV Stick 2 with(Out) root?
[Fire TV General] rainman74:
as far as I know that works only with boxes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7cXlnbTAR0

but a trick seems to work:

https://xdaforums.com/fire-tv/help/unable-to-pair-ps4-controller-to-firetv-t3250644
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-honor-request-bootloader-unlock-code/

This will be the death of Huawei.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Jonathan-H:
Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.

Huawei will continue to flourish.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
:good: Yep ok mate.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] bravo261:
yup. some people may not LIKE that you can't root a phone, but the actual percentage of those that won't actually buy the phone for this reason is minuscule.

otherwise, the first time a phone manufacturer sees their sales actually explode after releasing unlooked bootloaders, they'd always unlock it, but that's simply not the case
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Ok I think you're being quite short sighted here, allow me to explain a little.

People who root their phones, usually the same ones who mod and develop ROMs and love a tinker, generally speaking the techie in the family, the one who your family tends to turn to when they have an upgrade come around or need something fixing.

Those very same people are more than likely to recommend a phone which has the ability to root, bootloader unlock and modify than they are one which has a completely locked down eco system.

You can say what you like, you can say I'm full of it, but I've seen how people react to a company changing its principles in regards to bootloader unlocking, HTC did this once, they then reversed their decision after seeing an immediate decline in sales, not solely due to the device either, it was the people's influence which caused it, then after two not so great phones later, they were a struggling company, and make no mistake, HTC was a colossal company which was on the up and up, bare in mind they made a lot of what android is today.

Huawei are making the exact same mistake because they overlooked how important that 1% is and the influence that they have over the vast majority of other users who value their opinion and will commit to a purchase on their say so.

It doesn't matter if you believe me, it's just an observation I've witnessed when HTC made the same decision.

Sure they'll continue, they make other components as well as phones, in all fairness they could stop selling phones and still survive.

But for XDA, for development, for what we know today of Huawei devices? Lol If you think it's quiet here on the p20 pro forum, wait til you see the ghost town of a thread there will be for the p30 and pro, I doubt there will be a single ROM, no Dev would be dumb enough to buy it.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mantiyeah:
**** I am receiving my phone in 5 days...
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Rheumatoid:
Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] all the pugs:
Huawei is targeting the Apple clientele. They couldn‘t care less about bootloader unlocking. Look at their advertising, their USP is design, camera, beautiful visuals. They don‘t sell to the tech nerd who wants to flash different software.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Damn.

You may still be able to do something , there was a guide on the above link posted by a user which can unlock the bootloader by all accounts.

This phone is quite a beast and there could and should be another way in the future.

Plus Huawei will probably reverse their decision, that's not confirmed by any means but I think they will.

Funky Huawei ( which is normally not what I'd recommend) will probably see a lot more action now that official unlocks are gone too.

Don't worry too much, if it's still possible someone will find out.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Please see the fifth post in this thread. That's all i have to say on that matter.

You're right in what you're saying, they however are wrong in what they're doing and they'll find that out the hard way.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
That's cool :good:

Good thinking
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] LSHA1980:
It only works with your phone
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Rheumatoid:
Sell the phone to, not the code :laugh:
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] LSHA1980:
Got it
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] yabbadabbadoo:
I'm shocked. I received my phone today and wanted to root it and now I read this.

Maybe you guys can help me understand a few things because I haven't tampered with any Android device since 2014.

- will I be fine with the standard pre-installed EMUI or am I missing some really cool and better custom OS when I can't unlock and root my device?

- I've used Xposed, AFWall+, TWRP and XPrivacy on my old phone - are there similar and equally safe tools for unrooted devices?

- How can I make backups without TWRP?

- are there any known workaround procedures known that would let me unlock the bootloader without that code from Huawei? Is it likely that there will be one?

Thanks
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Rheumatoid:
you can still get a code today
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] yabbadabbadoo:
How? The link https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail is down

can't find https://www.emui.com/en/unlock_index either

EDIT: Tried everything. There are too many websites which seems unprofessional and half of them show certificate errors. Finally I wrote them a complaint about this via Mail and provided all the data like IMEI etc
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jcrompton:
Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
I wouldn't now personally
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] raph84:
Same question here. I have my Twilight P20 Pro lying here, unused since release in fact (so way past the return window) and meant to give it to my wife, but only with Root Tools (Adaway, YT Vanced etc.)

I missed the window since I was traveling and support won't help me.

I get it, my fault for not doing it in time but what now? I wouldn't mind paying for it, as the only other option appears to be selling the device at a huge loss (I paid full retail) and finding a different phone altogether.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] yabbadabbadoo:
Huawei support rejected me request. I like the phone a lot and hope there will be a hack...but actually I feel like sending it back, because I wanted to use Magisk and without TWRP I feel a bit insecure, I don't know if the Huawei backup app is reliable.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] daywalker386:
got my P20Pro today :/ if there´s no unlocking possible... kick it to the trash, and switch the brand again. Thx Huawei... liked your phones very much, but if i pay 650 Euros, i want to use it how i want....
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] srmanuel:
Where do you ask for the code? I will try to ask for it and it they don't give it to me I will turn it back. My operator is giving me a similar deal for the s9+, so good bye huawei

Enviado desde mi CLT-L29 mediante Tapatalk
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] 115volts:
Huawei

Hannah

Hannah (Huawei Support)

Jul 27, 12:16 CEST

Thank you for contacting Huawei Support UK.

In response to your enquiry, we would like to inform you that the unlock code application service has ended, as of July 25th 2018, to ensure user experience and safety. Moreover, unlocking the bootloader of a device voids the warranty and it wasn’t recommended since it was the source of multiple software issues due to unauthorized software modifications.

Huawei used to provide users with corresponding unlock codes to meet personalized requirements due to the usage of different ROMs, which is an extra service and does not belong to consumers' rights.

However, due to possible problems caused by unlocking your device (such as system built-in function failure, device freezing, and power consumption increase) we will no longer provide the code.

If you have any further questions, please, feel free to contact us.

I hope this proves to be useful and I wish you a nice day!

Best regards,

Hannah

Huawei Support - Customer Care UK

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It is strictly forbidden to share, disclose or reproduce this message or any part of your content with third parties without the sender's written consent.

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[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lambstone:
Remember the US had some consumer law that said "warranty void if this sticker is removed" is illegal? Is it legal in the UK for manufacturers to say that unlocking bootloader voids the warranty?

EDIT: Found it https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] djsaad1:
I was about to order one, then caught this thread. I will just wait for the next pixel now.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Or the 6S
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] noone606:
Devastated had been looking at this one for a bit but if it cant be unlocked why bother stupid move by the manufacturer

This decision will destroy any development even if a payed/3rd party option becomes available

Such a shame seemed a decent phone
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Well in all fairness mate, even without it being removed it was a dead section of XDA. So this will be the last nail in the coffin.

They'll feel the impact of it for certain, their reasoning is that only 1% of users root and mod, but what they have overlooked is the importance of that 1% and their influence over the rest of the people who commit to a purchase, root or not. Said it before, the same happened to HTC , they never recovered.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mrabcx:
There has never been much independent development for the P20 phones (nor for the Mate 10 variants). The main reason for unlocking would have to be 1) root phone 2) install a generic Treble ROM but then you miss out on VoLTE etc.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
By all accounts treble is screwed, review every 10 mins, fingerprint doesn't work.

Root it's useful for a lot more than that.

Mods

Titanium

Ads

Root apps

Lineage

Root access

To name but a few

Look at my Sig, the amount of ROMs I'm used to is insane, HTC get a lot of attention, OnePlus, Nexus

The last time I saw such a lack of development I had a note 4. Never again for me. Potential is there though.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mrabcx:
Sure, I myself would never buy a phone which I can not root.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the rumored Mate 20 Pro which may come out in 4 weeks time. Would need to have some development for it in terms of unlocking and rooting or otherwise it will be pretty quiet on the forums here.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Yep it's not going to happen, the only way would be an unofficial exploit which will probably cost and then Huawei will consistently work to have it blocked.

Development for that phone will be dead.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] bluedragon38:
Thanks a lot ! i will keep it.

I took a P20 PRO 2 weeks ago because they let us unlock BL .. and now this ? and VLC case ? What the f*** , i just want to sell back my phone really... -_-
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lambstone:
Yeah, back in the day, HTC was what you would get if you wanted an android phone. I still fondly remember my HTC hero. Loved that phone
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
An absolute masterpiece of a device, as good as the hd2 I'd say in terms of popularity.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
You've had it for two weeks? Send it back
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] noone606:
Major strength of android is the choice it gives us cant support anything that reduces that

I still think its a stupid decision by huawei
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fatguy666:
Crap, my phone's coming tomorrow and only just seen this. I'm gonna miss Viper4Android ?
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] bluedragon38:
Too late mate , pass from 1 days.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fatguy666:
I emailed Huawei, thought I'd chance my arm, but they just sent me the standard response. I'll probably keep annoying them and hopefully they'll give up and send me the code.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
Huawei won't give any codes, perhaps if sales plummet so much and they link the decision to remove bootloader unlocking to the decline they may reverse it, beyond that, Huawei will be stone faced about it I imagine.

But by all means harrass them, they deserve it.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Maniolo101:
Bootloader unlock code - bruteforce

1- I think the support from huawei actually give the code if you send them all the info... but I don't like that idea.

2- I would like to try to brute force it with a bash script. Anyone know what the is the code made of? digits, letters, ...

Thanks
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Netsoft:
This is my unlock code - 48H5RT3P0TCHNAB2
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] seebaax:
so how unlock p20 pro now? its not posible? i got 7 days this phone and i wanna unlock it ;/
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dlads:
If root and custom ROMs are like me something you really want / need. Then whilst your phone is new, send it back pal.

Get the 6T when it drops.
[Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] RiTCHiE007:
i was in the market for a new phone and was thinking of buying the p20 pro but after reading all this i think its better to not support this type of behavior in any way and guess i wont be buying any huawei device.
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] riz157:
Hi

I’ve had my vivo nex s for over 2 weeks and found the onscreen fingerprint unreliable. At times it works perfectly and then at times very fustrating it doesn’t work at all.

I’ve noticed when it’s warm or I’m outside, not sure why.

I’ve reset my fingerprints added couple of times for the same finger but that doesn’t help. I’ve noticed when phone is heated it’s less reliable and doesn’t work at times.

Not sure if it’s faulty or that’s the experience of most out there

Please share your experience and do you think I’ve got faulty set.
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] Co.okie4u:
Absolutely no problems with the fingerprintscanner.

I've double registered my fingers and it's working perfectly.

Sometimes it takes 1 second but in 99% its working nearly Instant.
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] GBOX:
Perfect!!! And with a screen protectors or tempered glass? Co.okie4u you have a private message!!! ;)
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] Saloei:
I also have my moments with the fingerprint scanner. The elite X3 scanner was more a hit than a miss compared to this phone. I will say the it has improved with the 16.5 update but it needs more work. It's as if the registered fingerprint file gets lost.
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] dstarr:
I'm having the exact same problem. Very Frustrating!
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] Guy1731:
Yes, double registering your fingers does the trick. Works flawlessly over here. ;)
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] GBOX:
How you double register your fingers? Each finger for twice saving? Thanks
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] delinde:
I have registered my thumb 3 times and im around 75% when i hit the fingerprint reader.

My main problem asides from the 75% is that its a very small spot on the screen and that i often dont touch it 100%. That, combined with the 75% reliability, means im lucky if im at 50%
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] Co.okie4u:
As i said absolutely no problem with the fp scanner.

Even when only my half thumb lays on the spot. I think it's a registration problem. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] GBOX:
May be but you have registered 5 fingers? In each save one finger? Or 1 finger for 2 saves :D

Please Co.okie4 you have an unread private message since 2 days from me, can you read it? Thanks
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] Saloei:
I have the same finger registered three times. How I managed to do that is place the finger not on the entire scanner but place the finger on part of the scanner to where you can still see the scanner light. Also use the edges of your finger on partial scanner. I kept trying and it worked. My misses are now less. This shouldn't be the solution as it should just work, but that's one way to get around the problem.
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] Dooomlord:
No problem for me.

The only issue is its a little slow when compared to generic finger print, but the awe u get by people around is totally worth than extra second.
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] darveniza:
Just be aware that you have to follow the instructions as stated on the screen. Use the pressure you would use as usual and when you are registering the edges of your finger grab your phone as you would in real life and with the same pressure as you would use.

I found that if you do this too lightly or too hard you will not recreate it in daily life and hence the failure.

Also register the edge side of the finger that you would touch the screen with, not the entire edge left and right
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] speeeeder:
Hi,

I use (official) LinageOS 14.1 in my athene and wonder if there will be ever an official Lineage OS 15.1. In https://xdaforums.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/oreo-roms-table-t3717226 I see some activity on several ROMs but non of them seems to be what could be LinageOS 15.1.

Are there plans to get one of the ROMs ready to be official LinageOS 15.1?

Do the creators of these ROMs work together or does everybody tries to solve the same problems again and again?

Are the "LineageOS Device Support Requirements" (https://github.com/LineageOS/charter/blob/master/device-support-requirements.md) to difficult to achieve? If yes what are the exact problems?
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] Ayan Uchiha Choudhury:
Unless blobs for Oreo are out which can be ported to athene it'll be problematic. Lineage 15.1 needs came proper camera working along with twrp and so on as of now without proper blobs those are impossible.
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] echo92:
Also, I recall that most Oreo based custom ROMs appear to have permissive SELinux (relaxed permissions about what apps can access from the system). That's not permitted by the LineageOS Device Support Requirements which require devices to be running enforcing SELinux. I'm not sure if custom Oreo ROMs are yet booting with a working enforcing SELinux.
[Android Head-Units] kawasakiracer25:
hello i have problem with my joying car stereo

my top line is not working (return, house, volume button etc)

Therefore I made a firmware update but without success

someone has an idea