yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G 2014 General] Danilo-Sanchez:
thedeadfish59 has helped me to fix HDR on AEX, and I've sent the fix to rahul1892

I think we'll have a new build today.
[G 2014 General] Oshmar:
Please do not choke the developer with a lot of messages! let him work in peace, it is his time, not ours.

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rahul1892 also also launched the dotOS 2.4 for the Falcon, who knows after a while he can also bring it to the Titan...
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
So you're playing with Oreo roms too!? Awesome!
[G 2014 General] Danilo-Sanchez:
Yes. Right now I'm using my build of AEX 5.7 with HDR fixed.

Thanks [MENTION=5284910]thedeadfish59[/MENTION]
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Great news! Looking @ afh every hour! Lol!
[G 2014 General] elsrdelasarmas:
look at this https://xdaforums.com/moto-g/themes-apps/moto-camera-slowmo-t3231608

also we have slow motion in stock

i have to say also that i'm not an expert but i think there's something bad with gpu in kernel or roms, in RR O i can't run Ultimate Driving Simulator and in AICP i downloaded it for testing and it loaded but being laggy as hell (in nougat it runs smooth even at max graphics), also noticed that even animations lag so maybe there's something that makes gpu processing faulty or idk, also ROMs are stable for daily use apart from the games problem.
[G 2014 General] m00nlighter:
I have tested this ROM and it is fast (faster than DU 11.7) and sufficiently stable by my standards.

However I need Bluetooth for my headset and my external Bluetooth speaker so I reverted to the stock ROM again :(

I can only hope that [MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION] will be able to include fixed HDR in the updated AOSP-CAF build along with fixed Bluetooth.

Then I'll just add nano gapps, install Rootless Pixel Launcher 3.6 (just google it), and disable the JIT compiler that only causes lags on our old CPU—and here you go, the stablest and fastest Oreo ROM :)
[G 2014 General] CMKdaGreatest:
How do you disable JIT compiler?
[G 2014 General] m00nlighter:
It's somewhat complicated and requires adb access and root permissions, so you have to be rooted.

Moreover, you have to have some free space on /system partition (I'd say around 300 megabytes) because ALL packages (apps) will be recompiled, including system apps. As for the data partition, it is hard to tell, depends on what apps you have. I recommend starting with minimum required apps.

First, disable the JIT compiler

Second, clear profile data and remove compiled code for all packages

Third, force compile all packages using "speed" compiler profile (AOT-compiles all methods in app code)

And finally, add/edit the following two properties to system.prop:

This will permanently disable the JIT compiler.

This will force AOT compilation for apps, including updates and new installs.

After that, reboot and enjoy your FAST Oreo ROM :)

Why JIT compiler should be disabled on old devices like Titan?

Read the excellent post by Farhan on Stack Overflow here:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40336455/difference-between-aot-and-jit-compiler-android#

Where did I get this info from?

Official Android docs. See

https://source.android.com/devices/tech/dalvik/configure

and

https://source.android.com/devices/tech/dalvik/jit-compiler
[G 2014 General] CMKdaGreatest:
Can this be done in stock marshmellow? If it can, then will it improve performance??

You should consider making a thread on this, it can help everyone
[G 2014 General] m00nlighter:
It cannot be done in stock Marshmallow for one simple reason: there is no JIT compiler in Marshmallow, so there is nothing to get rid of :)
[G 2014 General] thedeadfish59:
Perhaps, Bluetooth MIGHT NOT ever be fixed in future (in AOSP-CAF of course), however, you all can try this HDR fix (in attachments) I just made from the HDR change commits, flash and check

Note: Stock Lineage Snap might not let you use HDR, but any other cameras (i.e MotoCamera, OnePlusCamera...etc) will surely let you use HDR

[MENTION=7775840]sapo_joe[/MENTION] , you might want to try this out
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Thanks man, I'll download this, and try it later on Pixel Experience and (probably) Lineage 15.1...

Right now I'm using AEX 5.7 with HDR already fixed by Danilo Sanchez... HDR now works also with Google Camera 2.5!

When I do test this (maybe it'll take time, as I'll be travelling for the next week or so... ) I'll report here.
[G 2014 General] rahul1892:
My apologies. I didn't know everyone was waiting for AEX 5.7 with HD fix. I thought, since 5.8 will be released in few days, i would make a build then. :D

If you guys still want 5.7 with HDR fix, I don't mind :o
[G 2014 General] thedeadfish59:
No need to update 5.7, do it after August Security Patch, till then people can use flashable zip I just gave here, dont take pressure for building...
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Thanks a lot man! Please, could you also include the ambient display gestures on it? It makes this ambient display thing a lot more useful!

It can wait for v5.8 though, no need to be building new ROMs every few days! Then we get all fixes on the new version...

Thanks again!
[G 2014 General] RenanQueiroz:
Not happening lol, I've tried everything I could and bluetooth is still broken... I'm not gonna work on that anymore

But saves storage, saves battery, and improves app launch time...
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Oh boy, that's sad news... But if even you couldn't fix that, well, better forget about this CAF and focus on to the ones that work... Lol
[G 2014 General] m00nlighter:
That's bad news. Well then I'll wait for the next build of PE with HDR fix included.
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Since the devs are visiting this topic regularly, let's talk about roms that deserve a new build for Titan, be it Oreo or Nougat...

I believe AOSiP, Dirty Unicorns, GZOSP, CrDroid (Nougat, still supported by the team)...

What do you guys think?
[G 2014 General] Wolfcity:
I think this device has a great selection of ROMs, Nougat and Oreo. I'm really thankful for this, when buying a titan I was afraid there would be no or low development. But it was the opposite, there were so many ROMs to chose from! And that this device will ever see Oreo was unbelievable for me.

Imo, AEX built a great Nougat and Oreo ROM, also Pixel Experience is awesome for 8.1.

I want to say thanks to each and every developer who built ROMs for titan. I made my way from Titan Prime over Turbo ROM and Minimal OS up to AEX and other 8.1 ROMs.

This device got a lot of great development and everything that will come up in the future is more I ever hoped for.

But the ones [MENTION=7775840]sapo_joe[/MENTION] mentioned are the ones that are interesting. Some others are abandoned, for example I would really like to see how a minimal OS or Turbo ROM would perform on 8.1...
[G 2014 General] m00nlighter:
In my opinion, Renan's AOSP-CAF Nougat ROM

([ROM][7.1.2] AOSP-CAF [OMS][TITAN][UBERTC][STABLE] https://xdaforums.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-aosp-caf-t3637776)

definitely deserves a new build with the latest security updates—because as Renan informed us, Bluetooth cannot be fixed in the Oreo build of AOSP-CAF :(

AOSP-CAF is the closest to vanilla Android and consequently should be one of the better ROMs (if not the best one) in terms of performance and stability.

I think that combined with the last security patch and HDR fix (if possible), this would be the best replacement for the stock ROM until Oreo ROMs become as mature as Nougat ones.
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Without Bluetooth a ROM is useless.
[G 2014 General] CodeDroid:
For some people but not for others. I almost never use Bluetooth so it doesn't matter to me.
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Well, at least for people who listen to music it's useless...

But back to my previous message, another rom tht people are putting on a good word is Havoc... Anyone knows it?
[G 2014 General] CMKdaGreatest:
I do!! I also own an Athene (Moto G4 plus). It is the most stable Oreo ROM for Athene right now.

Also, its Havoc lol
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Just remembered another rom that I'd like to see on the Titans: Omnirom.
[G 2014 General] tejasrao1996:
Havok is good. But just like DotOS, HavokOS is kanged. Many devs hate them because they don't have a single original code. All blatantly copied. Ask renan or deadfish.

DU was my fav in MM as well as Nougat. But comparatively difficult to build for new devs. Jack (Dev of cosmicOS) tried many times but couldn't.

Renan will be leaving the development right after he released a final build for all his ROMs which is this month. Because final year of his school. Plus within 2 months Android Phone will be released and development of Oreo will stop.

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Turbo ROM yes! But sadly the whole project was abandoned right after the last build. I remember vidhanth and vatsal building so many official ROMs for Titan. LP and MM were the prime days of Titan.

Then [MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5284910]thedeadfish59[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5945246]jackcicci[/MENTION] did some great work.

Since development of Oreo will stop within a month or 2, I don't think we will see new builds which will be maintained.
[G 2014 General] CMKdaGreatest:
It's "Havoc" not "Havok" lol
[G 2014 General] RenanQueiroz:
Well, I consider Titan's tree to be relatively stable right now, the only things left to do are Enforcing SELinux (which would've never have been fixed anyway, since we never found the source of the issue) and some random issues with video playback on Instagram and WhatsApp which I also wasn't able to find the cause.

Apart from that, everything else works just fine, and because of that I don't really see a reason to keep maintaining it (only thing you guys would miss are the security patches, but I don't think they are as important as most users make it look like).

With that out of the way, there's nothing new to bring in an updated build, so I don't really see a reason to make one...
[G 2014 General] m00nlighter:
Hi Renan,

How about integrating the HDR fix mentioned by [MENTION=5284910]thedeadfish59[/MENTION] in #66?

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77218960&postcount=66

PS The official Cypher 6.0 was also updated ;)
[G 2014 General] RenanQueiroz:
The next builds will have the HDR fix included, I've already said that before...

I know about Cypher already... Titan has been added to the official roster, it's up to them to make builds...
[G 2014 General] m00nlighter:
That's great news!

I'm really eager to investigate on how an updated build of PE—with some Google apps debloated—will perform in comparison to the stock ROM.

As for now, I'm quite OK with the heavily debloated stock ROM (where I disabled ZRAM, added a 256 MB swap file to the /cache partition instead, and force enabled Doze on the stock kernel with the help of ForceDoze and Apps2D, plus pimped the UI with the Rootless Pixel Launcher 3.6—I even have notification dots now, on Marshmallow).

However, with HDR fixed, there are no more blockers for me not to move to Oreo where the AOT compiler has significantly improved :)
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Well, most ROMs are kanged to various levels, it's the right combination that we look forward to... Right now, very few ROMs are really original stuff, like Lineage, aoscp... Even the mighty Dirty Unicorns has kanged stuff on it...

I tend to like pure roms myself too, but as Renan said, we're waiting for cypher to release an official build, so, for now AEX is good enough for me, even with all kanged stuff... Or maybe because of it, who knows! :D
[G 2014 General] RenanQueiroz:
Facepalm...

Do you even know what you're talking about? I think not...
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Well, it seems that I don't.

Enlighten me please?
[G 2014 General] RenanQueiroz:
Kanging is copying someone else's work without giving credits, it is not true that "most ROMs are kanged to various levels, it's the right combination that we look forward to", we look forward to NO KANGING AT ALL.

Just because you use something from another ROM, that doesn't mean you are kanging, as long as you give credits and maintain authorship you are fine.

Uhh, no... DU and AEX always give proper credits as far as I know...
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Well, I've seen many developers openly saying they "kanged stuff" from others, and giving credit to the authors at the same time. That's why I thought that whenever you get code from someone else's work and merge to your ROM, it's kanged. Credits given or not.

In the end, AFAIK, whenever you take Android code from someone else's work, you're kanging it, with or without permition. Etiquete asks to give proper credits, but some people (like DOT Os devs and others) just don't do it, and are frequently bashed by other authors because of it.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying that.
[G 2014 General] RenanQueiroz:
Using someone else's work while giving credits is NOT kanging, it is actually the reason why things are open source, so that you can learn from them and/or implement them into your project.
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
Android Pie is already running on Moto G2013 (Falcon)!!!

The known bug is, as usual, the camera...

Are we to expect Pie running on our devices?

Still amazing! Kudos to [MENTION=4123481]klozz[/MENTION]jesus!
[G 2014 General] waingro808:
Any chance of Android GO ROM for this device?
[G 2014 General] Shillopellos9:
I believe this device would benefit alot from Android GO. I would want to see it as well (if any developer is willing to sacrifice his time to make it happen ofcourse)
[G 2014 General] CMKdaGreatest:
[MENTION=5284910]thedeadfish59[/MENTION] you should consider opening a discussion thread for Android Pie ROMs, since they are also being developed now
[G 2014 General] thedeadfish59:
Okay, go here now, and oreo discussions will still be done here
[G 2014 General] Oshmar:
With the roms LOS 16 and Xperience 13.0 running well, will they still release the official Cypheros parfait as they said?
[G 2014 General] CMKdaGreatest:
[MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION] should answer this
[G 2014 General] sapo_joe:
This is most strange... I asked a few times Chris Crump himself and he said that the Titan rom was ready to be built on their servers... An that was a month ago. :confused:
[G 2014 General] tejasrao1996:
Its not up to him. Its upto the cypher team. They've to build it.
[G 2014 General] RenanQueiroz:
It's not up to me, Cypher has their own build server and they make builds whenever they want. I only maintain the tree updated and working well.
[G 2014 General] Oshmar:
I understand perfectly.:good:
[G 2014 General] danapk:
I'm sad because they do not do official roms like cypher or lineage, it would be great to have updates every time, more abandoned projects I think ..:rolleyes:

do not expect roms as official cypher..

because no test candidate is

http://www.cypheros.co/jbs/
[G 2014 General] Oshmar:
I'm not expecting it.

My posting is not just related to titan and what was said regarding making it official or not, wanted to include all the devices listed on the cypher server, the updates are random, have always been so.

But if we stop to analyze, no ROMs, except for Lineage (weekly) and Mokee (daily) have updates / fixes in an organized way, the others wipe ice.

I do not expect an official cypher, but it would be great because it is a fantastic ROM, a reference. And it's my favorite ROM.
[G 2014 General] danapk:
is a great ROM more if you do not have a maintainer it gets difficult to have official ROMs..:D

I'm waiting for a ​​miracle haha , brief an official lineage rom
[G 2014 General] Oshmar:
From what I've read and seen in recent times, the issue is not related to a lack of maintainer, there are some issues that are relevant, one is that some developers are not interested in engaging in an official project, simply because it weighs on the developer the issue of commitment, of the established rules, and not always it pleases everyone ...

I do not dwell on the term "Official" of a ROM, this is just status, in my opinion it is excellent this way, and everything went very well until today.

What's more, what separates the official unofficial version is just two letters: U and N. nothing more.
[G 2014 General] danapk:
if there is no compromise with the rom, there is also risk of not having updates and corrections..

in fact no one wants to be an official developer of a cell phone as old as titan.
[G 2014 General] Oshmar:
In fact no one wants to officially keep any device, regardless of whether it is old or new, and this is a fact, the proof of this is that there are several new devices without a maintainer.
[G 2014 General] CMKdaGreatest:
[MENTION=5284910]thedeadfish59[/MENTION]

As I know, the last version of RR Oreo is 6.2.1

Will we be getting an update to that version?
[G 2014 General] thedeadfish59:
Nope, I will move directly to RR 7.0.0 Pie when I will be free and RR source will be ready for alpha release (That will be a separate thread), 6.2.1 has only latest sec patch included, otherwise it wont be any diff than the final version I have released, so chill :) And yes I will be maintaining official releases in future as well if my device stays alive

(To all who seeing this comment: No ETA for Pie releases please, since am so busy these days, I only log in to xda to reply to comments)
[G 2014 General] chuy19312:
Oreo roms are good, but i want to know if there is a fix for time and date, sadly on my Titan, Sim Card doesn't work and on this android version doesn't save my time and date after rebooting, but it still get saved on TWRP

I Tested dotOS v2.5, AOSCP, Pixel Experience And Lineage OS 15
[G 2014 General] chuy19312:
After much time i know what were the reason of not saving time and date when i had no simcard on Oreo

For time and date auto saving change this line

persist.gps.qc_nlp_in_use=0 #Change it to 1

Doesn't work on every rom but worked on Cypher Os Parfait and Lineage OS 15.1, it didn't work for AOSPExtended Pie
[G 2014 General] chuy19312:
I have some questions, how to fix bluetooth enabling after 7 or 8 seconds instead of 2 or 3 seconds like on other android version roms? also, bluetooth id was 00:00:00:00:5A:AD on every oreo rom. is there an way to fix it?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / 5 Plus Questions & Answers] surfistche:
Hello fellow Xiaomi users,

I got my Redmi 5 Plus a few days ago, updated it only via the system update (no custom twerks yet).

Currently I have the stock Android 7.1.2 N2G47H and the stock MIUI 9.6.2.0 NEGMIFD.

I have a couple of questions about the phone and I would really appreciate your help:

1) Will this phone get an official Oreo update? I've read that there should be one, but couldn't find any official date mentioned.

2) Stock launcher - I noticed that I couldn't remove app icons from the stock launcher. Is there a way to do that, and customize it all together?

3) Nova launcher - Since I couldn't remove unneeded app icons from the stock launcher, I installed Nova. An issue I find with it though, is that I no longer get skype notification sound - only vibration. Also sometimes messenger fails to make a sound as well, but that happens fairly rare. Any idea on a fix for this? Or maybe recommend a better launcher, that works with the phone?

4)Viber - I am using dual SIMs. One personal, and one for work. I activated only my work viber, but as soon as I started using it, it transferred all my contacts in it. So now my personal and work contacts got mixed. Wouldn't be an issue, If I didn't use viber on my work PC, and I would rather my personal chats to not be there. Any suggestion on how to separate my contacts? Anyone else had this issue?

5) Alarm sound - I am not sure if this happened after I switched to Nova, but my alarm sound is really low. The phones speakers are quite good, but when it comes to the alarm its quite low. I can barely hear it and wake up :D

6) Freezing - Sometimes when I type in let's say messenger, the phone freezes for some reason, until I type the next letter. For example if I try to type the word "submarine", I can type "subma" but it will freeze on "subm", and when I type the next letter (r) it will spit out both of the last written letters "submar" and then continue to work normally. What can cause those freezes?

I would really love to hear your opinion on these points.

Thanks in advance guys :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / 5 Plus Questions & Answers] SubwayChamp:
1) For sure, in the main miui site is indicated and if is there is a closed beta available then we can expect an official version.

2) Remove the icons from stock launcher will mean uninstall them, you can only move them to the next display and maybe group them.

3) Check if all permissions are granted for this launcher including device control and accesibility, also enable in Nova persistent notifications. I use stock launcher, I put my preferred apps in main desktop, the others just moved them to the right and using the app "My Drawer" from developer Ofir Miron, it´s the only that I found that keeps the same icon from any theme that I pick, the others look very ugly.

I´m rarely use the other points so I don´t know
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / 5 Plus Questions & Answers] surfistche:
Thank you for the reply, I guess I will wait for the update for now, and experiment some more with Nova.

One more thing that came to mind - any way to use the proximity sensor to stop the phone for ringing or to answer calls? I had this options on other android phones - when the phone rings, and you bring your phone close to something (like your year) it picks up. Or when you flip it face down it stops the ringing. Any of these options available?? Can't find them so far. :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / 5 Plus Questions & Answers] SubwayChamp:
You can find Flip to silence ringer in menu from stock dialer.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / 5 Plus Questions & Answers] surfistche:
Thank you, found it. Now let's hope that someone else can shed some light on the other topics as well. ^^
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Questions & Answers] Mustajab Is'haq:
Hey.

Can anyone help me in deciding which phone to get. My daily usage is mostly mails and instant messaging along with maybe 30 minutes of games. Multi tasking is what I need and my current phone heats up a lot while gaming, so please mention any shortcomings of the 5Z. I have been waiting for the 6GB RAM variant of the MAX PRO for a month, still no ETA.

Should I just go ahead and pull the trigger on the 5Z? or Should I wait for the M1 PRO 6GB? I do like stock android and I've read that the 5z RAM management is not good. Please advise.

Thanks and Cheers!
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Questions & Answers] olive23:
The 5z is way better.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Questions & Answers] Xebeck:
My OP6 was destroyed by water so I've bought a 5z about 3 days back.

It's mind blowing for the price.

Great battery.

Almost minute warming as compared to OP6.

Standby battery drain of only 01.00% (yes, One%) over 8 hours at night. OP6 had over 7-8%.

Amazing speakers dual.

Not a heavy UI. ZenUI 5.0 is very streamlined.

And the features that are there are very useful.

And the AI does play a role in the background which you notice in small details. And it's supposed to get better with use.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Questions & Answers] EMJI79:
I think between the OP6. And the 5Z it will essentially be about your choice between an IPS and Amoled screen. Many people prefer Amoled but I personally prefer IPS because it is more true to life.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Questions & Answers] SUHIT1:
Whoever told you about poor ram management just told you the lie of the century...RAM management is super nice
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Questions & Answers] Mustajab Is'haq:
Thats great!

I'll wait until the end of this month and see if they launch the 6GB MAX PRO M1. else I'll pull the trigger on the 5Z.

Thanks!
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Questions & Answers] ferez:
Actually, why not just get the Zenfone 5? Sounds like the most perfectly balanced phone in both price and performance.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Questions & Answers] freddymanson:
yes, get the ZE620KL (Zenfone 5 2018) instead

it have the look and feel of 5Z

but same proc as MaxProM1

performance is better (the OS is fluid)

just the battery is fewer but the QuickCharge always supports u