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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Desmanto:
I sometimes wonder how some can wait for hours/days for a reply, but unwilling to spend 5 minutes to read the last 2-3 pages. Therefore, I conclude that, Reading is a very difficult skill to obtain.

But for such a critical information, if I am the one who has the risk of bricked, I would still re-ask again, after reading the thread.

Anyway, any news from the users from the first page? What is the Bootloader state when you got bricked? (I assume they are unlocked) I can see that both unlocked and locked 8.7.5 users can downgrade without bricking (even though xiaomi states starting from 8.7.5). When there is a conflicting information, I will choose to believe the official statement.

Info obtained from MIUI forum, even though the users have unlocked, they still can't flash any ROM after bricked by this ARP. The problem is there is no 8.7.9/10 fastboot rom available yet. Locked users definitely stucked already, no question.

That is older version and only for Indian version. Should have been blocked by the ARP too. But still for those who have Indian version and have bricked, still worth a try (at your own risk)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] e.roc:
Hi all,

i read now several articles in the internet, ok I understand that this "anti rollback feature" is a kind of safety matter. But I don't understand why i can't downgrade software because my hardware will brick.

My understanding of root, backups makes me think "why not".

Ok, status quo:

Mi Mix 2, unlocked, official twrp installed, current OS MIUI 10 by xiaomi.eu 8.6.28beta, backup (complete).

So my question is, if my backup includes everything (boot, system, data, etc.), where is the problem to rollback from any backup to the other, or clean my cell (wiping, format data) and install whatever I want, I mean it's just software?

IF I install a OS version with this anti rollback feature will twrp gone (I don't think so)?

Or does this "f**k my cell bricked" only happens if I'm a "normal" user (locked device, standard recovery)?

BTW, I tried 8.7.5 (beta from xiaomi.eu), I rolled back because of statusbar issues with the german language, no problem.

Many questions, I know, but I hope that someone can help me out.

e.roc
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] khb8255@gmail.com:
I ... Hard brick .....

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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lawong:
so am i affected ?

im on miui global stable 9.5 , unlocked bootloader and flash resurrection remix , after using it a few days and then i flash beta 8.7.5 FIRMWARE only not full package.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] n3w0rk:
How comes no one received the 8.7.10 update? This update appeared one night and I installed it derpy as I am. Now I am regreting it... :(

Thats unbearable to being chained by one miui rom. I wanted to change to multirom once they releases their developer roms.. ;(
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ramubhat:
I am on 8.7.12 global beta with unlocked bootloader. Now i am unable to flash twrp using fast boot. Getting 'anti rollback check fail' in fast boot cmd window.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Devanshu_Sharma:
Yes, worked without disassembly in my case as i could see my phone connected or recognized in the device manager in ports section.

Note : I have installed all the drivers available for the device according to my windows and its architecture.:fingers-crossed:

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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Thradya:
So, can anyone chip in what is exactly happening? This thread is even worse cesspool than miui forums.

ARP as implemented in pixels is completely disabled when the bootloader is unlocked - the only side effect is a warning during boot. It is a security feature that doesn't in any way prevent bootloader unlocking or flashing a different rom. What exactly xiaomi did different?

Can anyone compare images with and without ARP? Full 8.7.12 zip is already on miui download site and we know that 8.7.5 doesn't have it.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] momo1098r:
I have update my RN5 to 8.7.10 >8.7.12 on twrp and before reboot i install magisk. No issues.

But, now can i flash a custom rom???
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Devanshu_Sharma:
Backup current rom through twrp and try installing custom rom. It should work fine. :)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] n3w0rk:
I usually root my Smartphone by booting a custom recovery (TWRP), then afterwards with Flashify (requires root) I flash my recoveries. So miui won't reset it back. Try it if you are willing to risk it.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Desmanto:
No, this is no only software. No amount of backup from previous version will save you. AFAI Read from here : https://xdaforums.com/v20/how-to/bootloader-qfuses-arb-how-to-brick-t3673622

When you upgrade to newer version, the ARB is blown to the qfuse, which only can be written by higher version only. When you try to restore your older version backup, the ARB is lower than the one in the qfuse, thus trigger the protection. In a proper implementation of google ARP, UBL devices should not affected by this. Even the locked one, simply refuse to boot and should be able to be rescued by flashing back to the same ARB index or higher one. But here, we have users got their phone bricked by the improper implementation of the ARP by xiaomi.

They choose to brick the phone instead of giving warning. That's one of the problem. Until now, there is no yet another statement to clarify this, especially what to do for those who have bricked their phones.

I don't know much about which part that does the check. But looking from the booting process, it should be either the aboot or sbl partition. I think at least 4 partitions will be checked against it, boot, recovery, system and vendor.

Let's see if someone can successfully come back from the bricked and hopefully made a tutorial on how to do it step by step.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] pro4ever:
I have 2 days to unlock bootloader on global rom 9.5.17.0 . i unlock only to use RR , AEX , Dot os so should be ok as i anit downgrading to miui ??
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] tlf55:
With this "new anti roll back" can I still unlock my bootloader (I still have 6 day to wait) and install TWRP then magisk to root the phone ? I mean nothing to do with an old version of MIUI ..

BTW I'm on 8.7.5

And secondly can I install a custom rom like RR ? (This part is optional.. for now I just want to root ..)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] YoussefR:
I'm on MIUI 10 | 8.7.12

Do I Get Affected?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Sigray:
You won't have any problem with 8.7.5 but do not upgrade!

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Yes.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] PranayHotkar:
So to clarify the doubts of all the people who are on 8.7.5 miui10

My phone's status:-

Bootloader: unlocked

Miui 10 build: 8.7.5

Recovery: stock recovery , but flashed twrp in fastboot mode [ fastboot boot twrp_recovery.img ]

(Check screenshots for proof of my previous rom: 8.7.5)

-> I couldn't downgrade to 9.5.13 using updater app, so I had to flash twrp via fastboot.

-> installed aosp extended, without any problem.

Note: for those who are still on 8.7.5, do not upgrade to a higher version. I would rather suggest you guys to downgrade to a stable miui 9 version or use a aosp based custom ROM.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] napes22:
Is this an issue for all Xiaomi phones, or just the Redmi Note 5?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] PranayHotkar:
All phones running on latest version of miui developer ROM
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] raptorddd:
you are affected only if you on miui 10 8.7.10 do not downgrade

i was on 8.7.5 some apps FC so i revert it back to 9.5.14 using fastboot and miflash.

on my experience (NOTE might not be the same) in lg g4 international h815 there was no antirollback. but for my variant H811 tmobile USA there was antirollback. it changed i could downgrade to lollipop if i had the first arb marshmallow rom intalled. then antiroll back changed in marshmallow. once i updated to arb 2 in lg there were like 2-3 roms released then changed. last was arb3. but we could flash aosp/laos. ect/ only stock rom from LG could not be downgraded.. so if its the same it should not affect custom roms aosp ect. only stock roms from xiaomi.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Gonz19:
Hi I would like to share my experience: I downgraded from MIUI 10 8.7.5 to MIUI 9 9.5.17 by updater app, with my locked bootloader. The first boot last like 15 minutes, even I had to turn off and turn on to set up the device. Now it's everything ok.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] n3w0rk:
Did anyone downgrade from MIUI 10 8.7.10?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cesarXP:
That ends with a brick
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmed_HM:
The same here, except that the first boot took less than 15 minutes
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Sigray:
The edl mode doesnt work on note without opening the phone
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] avercros:
Well with the new 8.7.12 beta you can't perform wipes using fastboot, it shows: anti roll back check failed.

My phone has the bootloader unlocked, in this case, what is the purpose of bootloader unlocking if you can't even wipe userdata/modem in fastboot?

Thank you Xiaomi.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kbsarfaraz:
Yes I was on unlocked bootloader.

But if you want to clear your doubt. Do PM me on Instagram

https://goo.gl/Ev3uei
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Optimus Key:
Well I am using miuipro

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well i am using miuipro 8.7.5 Beta in redmi 4x

so FRIENDS PLEASE KINDLY TELL THAT IS THERE ANY PROBLEM
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ahadrox:
So, now what's the latest update about this problem? What to do now if someone is a new Redmi Note 5/5Pro user with unlocked bootloader like me?:(
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] abusalza:
I have clean fastboot 8.7.5 on mine, got notif to update to 8.7.12, after reading about this problem i decided to downgrade trought clean fastboot 9.5.17. flash redwolf twrp and seem okay now...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] -Zeppelin-:
Quick question, as I ordered my Mi Note 5 yesterday from Gearbest (Global version).

What are the chances it'll already come with this firmware?

I really need Custom Roms to get this to work for me, just not much of a Miui guy ;)

Thanks a lot in advance!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Sigray:
You'll get with miui 9 stable.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] -Zeppelin-:
Great, than just unlock asap & flash something else and I'll be good, right?

I guess the custom roms have excluded this new google feature?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fardeenah:
So if I am on 8.7.5 I am fine right?? I can downgrade to previous miui?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Sigray:
Yep
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] schmidde:
I will Install aosip or something today and wait for that problem to solve , then maybe back to miui
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hargitomi:
Xiaomi updated the official announcement, now it is much more informative . Check it here: http://en.miui.com/thread-3156438-1-1.html
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] DedeDocil:
Lets make it clear for those asking about anti-rollback on other devices. For xiaomi devices this anti-rollback is only applied to redmi note 5/pro (whyred) with android oreo & miui10 later than 8.7.5 currently. So if you are not using redmi note 5/pro you are safe for now.

Sorry bad english
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Tyrany:
Have anyone around here installed a custom rom after updating to any of the ARP roms? IF so please describe rom version and procedure,

or,

Have anyone booted or installed TWRP for ARP rom with regular recovery? IF so please describe rom version and procedure,

i'm trying to make a faq for people around here, every bit of info would be appreciated

thanks in advance
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] schmidde:
Just installed aosip , runs as expected
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ramubhat:
Yes I have installed twrp on a ARB rom. First boot into fast boot, the using cmnd boot into temporary twrp using cmnd 'fastboot boot filename.img'. Now u cant flash permanent twrp!.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Tyrany:
thanks for your feedback

please keep the reports coming =)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shubhadeep:
I have upgraded to 8.7.12.

Has any one tried to got to miui 9 from here. Hope this version is not effected.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Incogn:
All your answers are literally 5 posts back. READ
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] raptorddd:
you are stuck there. cant downgrade.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] n3w0rk:
If you wanna check it if you are safe. Go to fastboot and type 'fastboot getvar anti'. If it says anti: 4 then you are screwed. Otherwise you are safe.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shubhadeep:
And i am screwed.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

By the way is it possible there might be newer release that might fix this ?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] arvarobert:
Is this good?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] rocker00:
I can't get this mess at all, for locked bootloader it might be logical but for unlocked bootloader it doesn't make any sense at all!

Xiaomi gives the ability to unlock the bootloader and that means i'm free to do whatever i want since i accepted the risk of unlocking bootloader!! Even google doesn't implement ARP like that, it's only for locked bootloader but Xiaomi dosen't give a **** about that!!

If this will be the new kind of safety from Xiaomi then they should end the choice of unlocking the bootloader same like what Huawei has done since 24-5!!

For users who have unlocked bootloader and still confused, you can't downgrade starting from miui 10 build 8.7.6 and miui 9.5 build 9.5.19, you can't even flash twrp, you can only boot into twrp, so, no permanent twrp!!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kakagi:
From 8.7.6 can I flash aosp or any other custom rom?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cobben:
Either Xiaomi will back off and undo the damage they have already done, or they (more likely) will forge ahead and roll out this "feature" to all their devices.

Goal? Corporate hubris - Lock in their customer base to become the new "Apple".
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cesarXP:
Don't update to 9.5.19, you can't install TWRP for Custom ROMs
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] rocker00:
I really like this "become the new "Apple"

If this will be the new strategy then it will be the time to move to iOS!!

I'm always away from iOS just cuz i want to have full control over my device!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Reep1324:
Where is a lock, there is a key. Don't worry...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ramig:
For Apple IPhone have not Keys...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cobben:
But it will be like the guerilla fight Magisk has waged with Google. Maybe fun for the combatants, but a pain in the neck for ordinary users.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Reep1324:
1.**** apple and **** apple users...

2. If you are here, then you are not ordinary... :fingers-crossed:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Thradya:
Two questions. Since you can't install twrp when on ARP enabled rom but you can keep twrp when flashing from within it and boot into it if not:

- is flashing a different rom possible from twrp on ARP enabled rom?

- what does it take to spoof ARP 4 on a custom rom?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] darthbadar:
Hi guys, I'm currently on the 8.7.12 build. So, because of the ARB feature it means even with unlocked bootloader I can't flash custom ROMs? GGWP Xiaomi.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] n3w0rk:
Are Xiaomi.eu ROMs excluded by this?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] darthbadar:
AFAIK they haven't released the 8.7.12 update.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cobben:
That's to be released tomorrow Saturday.

If it will be released for Redmi Note 5 will be interesting to see.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] atabertass:
On Miui.gr custom rom there is the same problem, someone wanted to downgrade from 8.7. 10 to 8.7.5 and bricked his phone.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] tegazinho:
I think no one asked this, I'm on miui stable with the 9.5.21, so apparently I will suffer from the anti-rollback issue, what if I flash a beta version before 8.7.5 rom (like 8.6.28) (one that is not affected by that issue) will I have problems? Technically is not a downgrade. After that I just wanna get a custom rom like Ressurrection Remix, I hate miui!

Right now: I'm still waiting on the 360h period to unlock the bootloader
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lee480:
undo damage? this is a Android feature. write an email to Google pls
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Pumpino:
This is diabolical. It reminds me of when Xiaomi suddenly began locking bootloaders with a new version of MIUI. What's the point of allowing the bootloader to be unlocked if they pull a stunt like this? This comes after the MIUI download page was down for an entire month and continues to only list MIUI 10 downloads. I might sound like a conspiracy theorist, but maybe the plan was to get everyone onto MIUI 10 and then lock down devices.

I have two RN5s running Resurrection Remix, so I'm not affected. However, I'll likely go with Nokia after this nonsense.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lee480:
and if nokia implements Google's antiroll back feature? who are u going to next? :eek:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Pumpino:
Nokia comes with vanilla Android and does not allow bootloaders to be unlocked. That makes their phones more difficult to brick.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ocramsy:
does the anti roll back also apply for the miuiPro 8.6.28 update?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cobben:
The Xiaomi implementation of it is wrong.

Google lets you disable ARB if you have an unlocked bootloader.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zyphyrs:
i need someone can port or make custom rom for my Phone 4.3 and 4.4 version to run 6.0 application or games into it or make a custom rom for my Samsung S6 or Mediatek Phone 6.0.1 to install default or system application that has lower version Google Play Services, Google Framework and Playstore and account manager. if anyone can Kindly Message me im willing to Pay good price for it! Thanks
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] Pion777:
Hi there, I've got rooted A1 with Camera 2 API enabled.

So, low-light photography on A1 is plain terrible, I've found out that the camera automatically bumps up ISO to values like 6400, and the photos are noisy. Manual mode of A1 allows up to 3200.

This can be fixed by setting ISO manually to lower values, however then you're stripped of HDR in low light and all the different modes.

Next thing is, that in RAW files white dots appear. I've read the same problems existed in ZTE Axon 7 however it was fixed. (https://www.google.pl/amp/s/xdaforu...s-pattern-raw-photos-zte-axon-7-t3579684/amp/)

And Oneplus 5 https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...s-by-third-party-cameras-on-oneplus-5.612091/

The app I used for Raw pics was lightroom, however.

Besides all this, I've got older post on Google camera (gcam), and I don't well, that's another thing I suppose.

So, can anybody try taking raw pics in lightroom with good light and show me results? Did xiaomi fail to implement camera 2 api properly? Did I screw something up?

I wonder if I screwed up something while modding my phone and now I've got some weird issues

[Raw sample](https://i.imgur.com/RO91ThC.jpg)

Take care, peeps.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] faffu41:
Xiaomi didnt implement camera api 2, the device out Of the box has no cam2api.
[Xposed General] adellia:
Hi guys

i have rooted my phone with Magisk-manager and it is working now.

i am going to change my IMEI on phone. so i found i must install xposed framework to do that, but i dont know which version should i install.

the OS already is android 6.0 and EMUI 4.1

any help will be appreciated.
[Xposed General] Dylan2232:
I'm in the same boat. Have you figured out which one to install?

This phone has absolutely no support community. Agh!
[Xposed General] adellia:
huawei Y5

hey mate

just use Maui

it doesnt need root

no one helped in here.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jimek03:
hey guys

I just unlocked 8525 to use on T-Mobile network couple days ago.

I realized after unlocking, my 8525 only detect T-Mobile's GPRS signal so far.

isn't it supposed to detect the change of the available EDGE/GPRS?

my old 8125 detects T-Mobile's EDGE signal.

my question is how can I get T-Mobile's EDGE signal on my 8525.

Is there any additional settings to my 8525 so it could get the EDGE signal from T-Mobile?

Thanks guys.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] galaxys:
You should be getting it 'E' automatically if it's in your area towers. Also, it could be your 8525 radio version or even your OS Rom (doesn't have the E icon). I get Edge all the time in the states....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jaybepr:
Same Problem (FIX)

Hi, i just present the same problem on my 8525, after unlock and Super CID my 8525 just connect to G, no E or 3G (AT&T), i flash back to the original ROM (WM5) and then flash back to the Custom WM6.1 and is back, it works with the E (Edge) and 3G:D, it work for me on AT&T.
[Treble-Enabled Device Guides, News, & Discussion] Jax:
https://treskmod.ru
[Thinkpad Tablet General] unreallove:
I have made a qcn file for tb-8703n

but it can't be opened by qcnview.exe

I really wonder if it can be restored back to the tablet at later times when something went wrong

I did make a full backup of the tablet with TWRP (3.2.1.0)

BUT

I don't know if the full backup includes IMEI and modem

can anyone tell me that?

thx
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X Questions & Answers] hemantac:
MI has released latest 8.7.10 global beta rom for redmi 4xMIUI 10 latest 8.7.10 global beta review and download

changelog::

1.new apps (security,calculator calender)

2.new animations

3.natures sound added

4.bug fixes

for review and download link click here.

https://youtu.be/WUFfYM1I3Nw
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X Questions & Answers] V1ncent9:
Potariat mode?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X Questions & Answers] Dekill93:
Quick reply ?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X Questions & Answers] drkoskr:
still the same miui 9 camera
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X Questions & Answers] allenwang101:
Hyperlink ?
[BLISS ROMS Q&A] Haidoneus:
Successful installation, however OS failed to boot.

OS is installed in an empty partition. After successfully installing, I restarted through 'advanced startup', then 'use a device', pressed Android-OS.

Through GRUB, I tried x86-android but that failed after 'Android_#'; laptop's stuck in a frozen terminal. Also tried x86-android nomodset, but that caused the screen to glitch blue.

The nightly kernels I've tried booting were the 7th July and 9th July updates
[BLISS ROMS Q&A] Haidoneus:
Bump