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[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
No need to appologise, even if you simply had more pressing things. And at the time you got the notification, you obviously did. ;)

Im pretty sure that on a default initiall install (especially stock, as opposed to open GApps) EVERY app is defaulted to auto update as soon as its downloaded / installed. I havent tested this, just a vague memory of past experience.

Lets differentiate between "Google"and the "PlayStore app". You have it installed, it will update stuff, including itself. If you do not have the playstore installed, google cant update apps.

As for clearing data, I wouldn't be suprised, as that is an explicit step of "please clear my preferences /settings". so I wouldn't relly expect anything less.

I often manage my account by logging on to my desktop, and manage multiple accounts. Although, it kinda contradicts the above. That would be its black-box nature, and us just guessing.

Downgrade? I have only seen where I flash a new ROM or firmware (even though its the just released update for the current month) and there will already be updates that will install; including the PlayStore on the latest Pixel;l Firmware. One of my early (failed) attempts was to try and trick the playstore that I had a newer version of apps (eg YouTube) installed. But it updated itself to the correct version. Its a hard situation to simulate to have an APK of a newer version than on the playstore; so I basically dont know, although I could test it with one of my own apps. hmmmmm.... if I cared enough...

And thus its a small part of the detach! Method 2 and Method 3.

I cant remember exactly, but I am sure I have been using bind mounts since very early (Gingerbread or soon after). But maybe you are speaking directly to what was used in a google ROM than what was enabled withing toybox or busybox on custom ROMs

Not sure what you mean here, as google have been doing MANY updates in only the last few weeks.

I am running two phones right now. A Samsung S4 running Oreo and a Pixel 4A running A11 stock (umm.. pretty modified). They are running slightly different version of the Playstore. Same actual version number, but different trailing numbers/identifiers (beyond the standard version). On my Pixel 4A, I have seen recently that they have broken some of the 25+ steps I use to detach (but it still hasn't updated behind my back, I am leaving it to see how long) while on my S4 the detach check is passing all tests. Simplyre-deatching any item corrects all items, as its shared code they are breaking.

Black-box and probably device related. Pixel phones are treated with a special interest.

Its a service that they have a financial interest in. ie driven by $

This and sudohide from what I hear. I follow the other script based detach thread and all the issues those guys have. I just wanna pick them up and give them a good shake. ;)

No. Its totally all specifically about the PlayStore app itself. Hence my statement above that if you do not install the Playstore, your apps will not get updated.
[Android Apps and Games] GabbyWC:
I have noticed that even with detach method 3 for the YouTube app, the detach disappears after recent Google Play Store updates. Now with Play Store v26.5.19-21 or newer, the detach attempt results in errors in TeMeFI v1.1.12 and a bomb icon is shown as soon as your app is opened. @DiamondJohn , can you please investigate?
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
I mentioned all what you said above. ie I already investigated it, and tested it on my device, and as stated below, it reports an error but continues to work, and simply re-detaching fixes it. Until the next "major" playstore update...

Google have been updating the playstpre quite a bit recently. Upto a few dyas ago (when I had to wipe my phone) I was running the detach of YouTube (and many more) after google had updated the playstore, multiple times. My internal check was failing, and even erroring out just like you said. BUT YouTube NEVER updated, ie the detach actually continued to work, even though Googles updates cleared some of the steps I used. Obviously they dropped and recreated the components I changed. The weird thing is that this all happened on my Pixel 4A,but an older device, a 2013 S4 running LOS based custom Oreo ROM (Havoc-OS) wasnt affected by the same vending updates. Weird.

To fix all the issues, you simply need to run a single detach again on any single item, and that will reinstate ALL my changes for ALL detached apps. Its the shared steps that google has replaced/reverted., or the steps I take to ensure all is good after each detach do the trick. Remember, I do not detach the PlayStore itself, so updates can and will occur. I didnt want to add another background process running all the time to monitor PlayStore changes.

When you say its "re-attached", did you actually have an update occur? As I said, I was running for a couple of weeks with the check reporting that it was broken, but no updates made it through.
[Android Apps and Games] GabbyWC:
Thank you for the detailed reply. What's happening now is that after Google Play Store updates to a new version (as it did minutes ago), it actually shows YouTube in my list of apps to be updated and the "enable auto-update" option for it also shows a check mark. I haven't actually had YouTube update automatically but I suspect that it could happen if I leave the auto-update option for this app enabled. Aside from that, TeMeFI does not even list YouTube as a detached app after Google Play Store updates to a new version. In case you're wondering, I'm using an unofficial build of Pixel Experience Plus 11.0 on my Xiaomi Redmi Note 9 Pro (joyeuse) global version phone. I'm starting to think that something is messed up with Google Play Store on my device. I may try Mikanoshi's SudoHide as an alternative solution if it works with LSPosed.
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
You should NOT be going into the Youtube page on the playstore where the auto update is set. Thats just begging to be updated.

I think Google have made some questionable changes to the playstore of recent, that have meant repeated updates to the playstore. Because their updates break some of the components of the detachments, thats probably why it will not appear in any list. Google have happened to break the place I get the list from; but it is stored in multiple locations, I just check that specific one for the report. If you run the check, some of the steps are still up and running, and those appear to have been enough for my Pixel 4A running stock A11. Did it appear in the list available to be checked? it did on mine.

As I said above, I had it in the "failed" state for a couple of weeks, and it never auto updated. But I also NEVER visited the playstore page. That is also something I have warned against doing, multiple times.

And you could also simply re-detach it to fix it.
[Android Apps and Games] Techguy777:
Well I'm not sure but after detaching YouTube vanced from the playstore I uninstalled it and trying to reinstall it gives me an error message on vanced manager. What can I do to fix? Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] Techguy777:
I figured it out first I uninstalled YouTube vanced because it wouldn't load I don't think it was because of the app I was using my dad's phone to set something's up for him. When I uninstalled I figured a reinstall would put everything back the way it was. It doesn't you go in the app reattach it to the Play store then I installed the real YouTube app off the Play store then I deleted the Play store data rebooted after uninstalling the YouTube app and then I was able to reinstall YouTube vanced the right way
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
I'm not sure I understand the steps you physically went through, but TeMeFI's detach ONLY affects the playstore. So if you install / uninstall outside of the playstore, the detach will have NO effect. Interesting thing that proves this point, if you detach an app, then uninstall it using the settings app or ADB (ie something outsiode of the playstore), then, the PlayStopre will not be able to re-install it as it will be blocked by TeMeFI's adjustments. Similarily, you will notbe able to uninstall it via the PlayStore while it ios detached by TeMeFI; it treats that as "suspicious" behavior and blocks it! I have accidentally hit this wall a few times, where I detach it, uninstall it via ADB, and then get blockedin the PlayStore when I try to re-install it while its detached. The option is to simply install outside of the PlayStore (eg via Vanced Manager App), OR remove it from detachment (Simple) from TeMeFI, and then go back to using the PlayStore as you would normally.
[Android Apps and Games] Techguy777:
Even Vanced Manager was unable to reinstall it after I uninstalled without fixing it. I have no idea how it works. It does really detach apps good though. For some reason on my S10 lite Instagram always updates and I can't use the edxposed module with that version of Instagram. It used to have a setting inside Instagram app that you could turn off for automatic updates. However in the recent versions they have gotten rid of it. It doesn't do it on my tablet just the S10 lite. So I detached that app to. Now I have another problem because I had installed it on my secure folder it no longer will allow the module to work I've uninstalled and reinstalled a dozen times no good. This is relevant to this app I'm just saying.
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
And again from a PM. Please, unless there is something specifically private, this thread is a better option than a PM, where only you would be helped.

No, *NONE* literally means *NONE* and not *ALL*. They are complete opposites in the english language. You may choose to only disable, and let Magisk handle it. The delete is the "big guns" with a physical delete of the files. And hence its the "last resort".

I *try * to include a toast explaining what each step of all methods actually mean/do. If you miss the toast the first time, if you long press the home icon, it reloads the current step/menu, and thus also re-displays the toast, giving you a another/better opportunity to read what you may have missed. the first time, for whatever reason. I personally use this feature all the time. You can also long press the menu item and "Preview" the code, or what is used to fill the following sub-menu. On a side, everything has a short AND a long click action in the UI. And hence the second post in this thread, although its outdated. The code tells you EXACTLY what it does and how.

As for this method and A11. As I said previously, it doesn't work for me in A11. I havent spent the time investigating as to why not.
[Android Apps and Games] andybones:
Tail between my legs... Apologies for the PM.

And I think you do a great job with toast messages, I read slow, so it's nice to know how to get the message to pop up again.

With how powerful this app is, and not being great at understanding what the code fully means, (I'm trying harder) things can get confusing.

I should of understood better what *NONE* meant within the dialogs, I think I'm getting it now.

Maybe it'll be best to pull out my old HTC M8 and test things on that, as I simply can't fool around too much on my Daily Driver.

I'm a bit confused about the A11 part as initially in the post explanation of bootloop blocker, you mention the use on A11.

Unless I'm not understanding something correctly.

I guess the way I interpreted the Module was more of a "Random Bootloop Blocker", which is my fault, as you mentioned in the post explanation, having no TWRP, makes it difficult when on the go, running into a bootloop, and it would be interesting, if could setup (not asking you just stating) a sort of protection against these bootloops, and have it go ahead and delete ALL the modules fully when the device bootloops more than your desired X number. Can't say I'd be good at trying to accomplish this, but that's half the fun, I think, right?
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
I updated the post. My daily is a P4 running A11 and I built it with that n mind, but the dev and testingwas done on my old device,, runnoing oreo. I didnt see why it wouldnt (and stilldont) work in A11. I have updated that post to make note of the issue. Thanks.

Its not really a "RAndom Bootloop" stoper, as running it all the time, would eventrually disable the selected module, unless you reset it every few boots, before it went into action.

To disable ALL modules, thats already handled by Magisk built in features. The idea of this feature was to automaiclly disable one, without haviongto reconfigure all the others.
[Android Apps and Games] andybones:
I Appreciate you updating that post! Strange that it's working in Oreo but not A11.

Thank you for filling me in on that's how Magisk already is handling it. I must be running into some un-related issue.
[Android Apps and Games] Timmmmaaahh!:
Good morning! Detach worked fine for YT but can't find YT Music (both Vanced). I just can't see its proper package name (com.google.android.youtube.music?). Does it have another name in TeMeFi? The list seems to be very limited when selecting 'DETACH: Select Package then Protection level v5'. Using version 1.1.12
[Android Apps and Games] Spannaa:
It should be listed as: com.google.android.apps.youtube.music
[Android Apps and Games] Timmmmaaahh!:
Cheers! I just restarted my system and it does appear in the list now. Detach worked smooth as always. Any reason why only 47 items are visible in that list? I have over 270 PS apps installed.
[Android Apps and Games] Spannaa:
No idea, I have183 apps listed and only 130 installed.
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
As I have said many times. You can only detach items that are attached in the playstore data. The list presented by TeMeFI is what the playstore records as attached. Just because they are installed, does not guarantee the playstore has attached it in its own records. For example, if you clear the playstore data, all your apps would still be installed. But it will take some time before it catches up with its house-keeping. NB: deleting the data will also clear all your detachments (as there is nothing attached anymore).

As for the number being greater, the list also includes items the playstore has attached in the background, but keeps as a secret from the user. For example, the playstore itself!
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
You also probably experienced the lag in time between having the app installed (NOT through the playstore) and the playstore assimilating the link with your installed app(s), I have vanced youtube installed, but have the music one detatched and frozen.
[Android Apps and Games] Spannaa:
It also include apps that have recently been uninstalled and all of the Google Play system updates.
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
And "recently" is an understatement. I think it also stores your Library. ie apps you installed a long time ago and have uninstalled. You can detatch them also;)
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
New Version v1.1.13

The following items are of interest

Minor Spelling correction in the battery history report

Fixed the display of info toasts on single level extended items eg "Hosts file check" now shows the toast explaining that you select which host file. there were only 9 examples, which is propbably why I missed it.

There are a bunch of new items which actually relate to reporting on another project I am about to release which builds HUUUUGE hosts files

Download: SEE OP!

New Items. within the menu at "TeMeFI Configuration>New Menu Items"

Updated Items. within the menu at "TeMeFI Configuration>Latest Updated Menu Items"

Enjoy and stay safe.
[Android Apps and Games] Philnicolls89:
How long should it generally take for this time lag to correct itself? I too recently installed youtube music vanced and can't detach as it won't show up in the list.

It does show up in the play store as an update being available though.

I have turned off auto updates for now, so it not being detached doesn't worry me all that much.

I am just wondering if the issue will eventually correct itself (its been about 24hrs), or if I should be trying to find a solution to the problem.
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
I give a technique I have used myself in the following post, as well as a few times previously.

https://xdaforums.com/t/app-tool-temefi-comprehensive-system-administration.3806260/post-85403505
[Android Apps and Games] Philnicolls89:
Worked like a charm, Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
New Version v1.1.14

The following items are of special interest

A new method to check / compare the mediaDB with the actual file system contents. This new feature can be found at: Dynamic Lists>Media Scan>Compare Media DB to File System

we are also now past the 13th release....

Download: SEE OP!

New Items. within the menu at "TeMeFI Configuration>New Menu Items"

Updated Items. within the menu at "TeMeFI Configuration>Latest Updated Menu Items"

All should be the ones mentioned above.

Enjoy and stay safe.
[Android Apps and Games] KiroEMousa36:
i cant find youtube in the list *its vanced* shouldnt it be com.google.android.youtube ?
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
Because its the most common one to be detached, I explicitly put it out of order, and at the TOP of the list. Yes, its google's youtube app. There is no Vanced in there

With code generated lists (such as the app list of attached apps) you can filter the list by long pressing the "X" button when the menu list is visible, and typing in a few characters (case insensitive) such as "youtube" to filter the list down. And you can do it interactively. ie filter a filtered list.

Now the other thing to be cautious of is that YouTube is attached. Just because it is installed, does not mean its attached in the PlayStore, and hence wont show up in the list. See step 2 of the following post (and many like it)

https://xdaforums.com/t/app-tool-temefi-comprehensive-system-administration.3806260/post-85075037
[Android Apps and Games] curiousrom:
FYI this link in the OP:

Returns: @ the present: Not Found (#404)

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[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
Yeah, I noticed that the other day as well. What was annoying is that it actually says the up-loader deleted it. Which of course I haven't, and wouldn't of set an expiry time.

Re-updated with the latest. Im actually always running the next version, so its the next version, but I dont think the menu has changed
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
Interesting, I just noticed the menu file comes in at 900+ lines; many are simple separators and spaces. I have always been saying that there are only 500+ actions. The other thing to remember, many many of these individual menu items lead off into dynamically generated items, so the actual list / menu count is WAAAAAAY longer.
[Android Apps and Games] esszett:
Hi @DiamondJohn & all,

I have been trying to find the optimal Doze settings for my device for quite some time now. Although I am reasonably satisfied, but as we know: better is always possible!

Finding the right balance between Light and Deep Doze is somewhat complicated and unfortunately varies from day to day. On days when I'm walking a lot, I'd prefer to just let the phone stay in light doze mode, while on days when the phone is mostly lying around, I'd prefer to skip light mode altogether. So every setting always comes down to a compromise.

In Android, there is the energy-saving mode. I actually find it pretty good for my needs, because there is no light doze and the device goes directly into deep sleep and stays there until I actually wake it (however, there are hourly, but unnecessary wakelocks). The AnyMotion function seems to be completely ignored.

When I try to reproduce this behavior using "device_idle_constants" (all "light" settings set to 0), I get exactly the desired behavior - if I don't move the phone. However, as soon as I move the smartphone, it rains wakelocks like crazy (several hundred thousand in a few hours). And, of course, that drains the battery a lot.

Has anyone ever successfully tried to reproduce the Battery Saver with "device_idle_constants"?

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] DiamondJohn:
Doze setting are generally working on IF statements about what is happening on your phone. There are 10+ different settings, and one of them is something like how long after moveent to allow doze;which wouldbe when you are walking. If that would suffice, that up to you to create your personal profile. I have include a description of each parameter to make that easier.

But, it sounds like you are not satisfied with that.

The other choice, which sounds more likely to satisfy your requirements is explicit switching.

I use a custom launcher which allows scripts to be run on secret hot-spots or specific gestures on an area (a hot-spot or a swipe on an existing icon). I use it to run a force-stop on a long list of apps and then shut my screen off. You could get some script to switch you doze profile on request. There are many ways to trigger a shell script. Only you would know the way you need your phone to run. I swipe up or down in my weather widget and that turns AIOD on or off. Wee all have slightly different ways we want out devices to react.
[Android Apps and Games] esszett:
Exactly ;)

I did several "experiments" with different doze settings (BatteryGuru's doze settings, system's battery saver, OS's Aggressive Idle settings, your comatoes settings, and, of course, many own settings). After a battery cycle I analyze the battery dump with BatteryHistorian.

As far as I can see and understand, the "motion_inactive_timeout" causes the device not to switch back to deep doze mode for this period after a movement, but to stay in light doze which ignores AnyMotion. During deep doze, the system always expects feedback from AnyMotion - as soon as motion is detected or if you deactivate the AnyMotion function/sensor, the system exits deep doze or never even reaches deep doze respectively. However, I've not yet tested how the system behaves when I set the light Idle values to 0 and this motion timeout parameter to e.g. 43200000 (12h). Maybe this will bring me closer to "recreating" the system energy saving mode with more aggressive timeouts, which more or less completely ignores AnyMotion and only wakes up the device for maintenance task.

I hoped someone already tried & tested that :)

That would be my non-prefered option that I would use as a real last resort because that would be too inconvenient for me on a day to day basis. Thanks anyway!

Thank you for taking time to deal with my "problem" and answer me! :)