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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Well It's going to be kept simple - with ease of use, so easy access navigation with all the categorys, on the main page it will show the latest submissions in a box with javscript effects. On the home page will be news where there will be reviews of current/new software (finger freindly) of course.

It's all coded from scratch by moi - because I hate relying on other software such as wordpress and what not.

The front end is complete but the admin panel hasn't even been started yet (I'll start tonight) - I want to get the user end to perfection.

I'll post a screenshot of what it's going to look like in a mo!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
It doesn't seem like anyone is interested - no ones replying or anything :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] matumartin14:
I am really looking forward to it, but i don't know how to help you so i have to sit back and watch.

But if you need some programs or something, then you can ask and maybe i could help you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Well currently I'm having a absolute pain with the website html and css - it's not going how I want it too :p

I think it's because I'm trying to do 3 things at once, code up the design, inplement cool effects (sublte though), and code the php backend... I should try 1 on 1 tbh.

Anyway YES I could do with someone helping me with programs and such - can you PM me because I'm short on time at the moment.

Thanks ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
*sigh* I want to get some word going round first, so people knows about it and are sitting there anticipating it. Don't you know anything about advertising, and promoting (no offence lol)

I've written 1/2k of php and html combined - and the motivation? Simple, I want this just as much as you guys do (if you do want it). I stay up till 4am in the morning developing this - it's a big job, because when I make a website I don't do it featureless, i do the full deal. I'm also trying to find javascript devs to implement some nice effects, to give it that oumph!

I've also been tweaking the design to make it user freindly. I've also been deciding on a domain name (now decided, and bought) and been enquiring to people for some custom content :)

Seriously, this is going to be more than you think!

Oh and there is so much more - but i cant GIVE everything away can I :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Ok it's all coming along real nice :) Expect it to be released (in beta) in approx 2-3 days!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheChampJT:
If you need any help with it, I'm here :D!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Thanks! PM'd you!

Are there any developers out there willing to help with programs and stuff? Ill explain more if you decide to help me out!

Thanks for all your support guyz
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Hey there all! I can see this is a very active thread *Joke alert*!!

Well anyway I promised you a screenshot, and ill show you one - the header is being slightly adjusted though.

Let me know what you think:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
I would like some reply :(

I've put ALOT of effort into this :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bedaweed:
it looks nice but when you had the link up and i tried to open it my firefox kept crashing
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
hahaha, sorry that's quite funny. Localhost - is exactly what is says in it's name .. LOCAL host - as in, on my local computer :P. It's not on the internet, it's on my laptop. It's so I can code the server-side language when im offline etc.

The actual link is going to be: www.touch-innovation.com but there's nothing there yet :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheChampJT:
Looks good, can't wait to check out the final result! Let me know when it's up nd running.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Thanks :D

I'm pleased that you like it, because it's been a total whore to code :P

Anyway, you like it now, and you haven't seen any of the effects I've implemented! Can't wait to show you. All I've gotta do now, is finish implementing the design, and then finish the admin panel and it's good to go!

Should be realased verrry soon. I also need to do a RSS feed, but I will do that after I've added content :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bedaweed:
sorry i just went back into my history it was a different post/website i was talking about

but yours still look nice =)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] moddin:
Looks nice ive been waiting for a website like this where you dont have to sniff through every comment in a thread to find something.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mbarvian:
good job on the coding ;)

the site looks great
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Thanks guys - It's not going to be a fixed layout, so if you have a bigger browser, then it will fit the whole page. Just need to sort out a header that repeats itself well.

I am just sorting out the rest of the design now - the tables for the categorys view and just tweaking it, to make it an enjoyable experience.

I'm not reasing it untill I'm happy and it's workin well. I've also got to implement some SEO tweaks to get the search engine bots to crawl me better!

In a whole, its coming at a nice pace, but to make it a NICER pace I need people to help me with content cos this forum has alot of stuff in it and I can't do it by myself (Or i can, but it's not a good idea, it'll take me ages :D)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] grandpareza:
good idea. Im looking forward to this.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay15:
All these repeated messages, and THAT is the design!?!?! YOu might want to get some graphics people involved. I am sure the layout of the site will be great (it'd better be after all your trumpeting), but the graphics need some SERIOUS work. Zero WOW factor (not that you need it, but that kind of factor brings out the non-XDA crowd ... the lay-user)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Hmm funny that, considering _EVERYONE_ I have asked has loved it (Including a TOP graphics designer!). You seem to be the only one hating it, makes me sad - but you cant please everyone.

I will tweak the header, and the layout well... wait and see :)

I'm not very good at dark designs - but this is my attempt so live with it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] A.J:
well good job man i like it

keep going on bro
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Thanks dude

UPDATE: 80% complete
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SeanFromSoCal:
I'm curious to see what you end up with. A website design is always going to be debatable so I wouldn't give much thoughts to any negativity unless it gets excessive. But you've coded it from scratch?? I don't get that.

It looks as if you are building exactly the same features as a Wordpress system would have--categories, subcategories, rss, seo friendly urls, comments, etc. So why would you need to start from scratch...that's why I'm curious to see what you are doing differently that requires you to take the path you took.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
The reason I've coded from scratch is because I code the things I NEED, and not have aload of stuff I dont. I also hate relying on other people's stuff - if I can't do it myself, then I will learn how to do it - and make it better. If you see what I mean?

Yeah, you could call any website that's been hand coded to suit there needs, a basis of wordpress. The fact is, just because wordpress is a wide known CMS system, doesn't mean everything revolves and should be compared to them!

This is a CMS system that I have coded to this website's needs - so it run's nicely and what not.

See what I mean, I could go on all day :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] caballero600:
Lots of work!

I'm following this project and it has a lot of work in it, this must :D be a great website!!! And it's time to have a web with some xda-readers working on it, here there are many talented people!!!

I have seen some caps and I can say that is in the right track!

So I want to see this site active as soon as posible.

go on,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Thanks for the comment cab :) It's 95% done (:D) I will be putting it on the internet soon - where you can view it.

I will be adding forums as well
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Okay it's all finished :D:D:D:D

I'm going to round up some people (if you are willing to help PM or REPLY A.S.A.P!!!)

These are the categories I'm going to use (Please feel free to correct or add some)

Contact

Messaging

Shell's

Media Players

Image Viewers

ROM's

IM Apps

Keyboards

Dialers

Miscellaneous

Thanks for your patience
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mchapman007:
I will add a link from my site to yours (MobileMatt) when it's ready... Maybe add a section for WM Themes?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
That sounds great mchap! Thanks :)

And yeah I have a sublist - which I plan to do, because at the moment I want to roll of the programs, get them undergo and then I will start on expanding the site even more so. So yeah expect the start of themes within the following few weeks :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Oh i forgot to mention - to begin with it will be free programs only (as such), and then I'll start rolling out the cracked versions (from different forums)

which will be accessible from a private panel - where anyone can login and sign into to get them, does that sound ok?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SeanFromSoCal:
Now you've thrown me for a loop. You are going to have all the freeware developments that the XDA community has produced plus more touch/finger friendly apps. And you are also going to have the *cracked* shareware/commercial-ware software aka "Warez" in a private section??

Tsk tsk... You perhaps should have been more clear about your intentions that are against this forum's rules.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Hmm I didn't know it was against the rules :O

This is a hackingg and what not forum so I thought this must be allowed? :P

Okay maybe I won't then :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SeanFromSoCal:
In Firefox, the site navigation doesn't function at all and the layout isn't lining up properly.

Also a big NO NO...you have at least one MAJOR SECURITY flaw in your website.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheChampJT:
Looks good, I really like the menu panel. I found one thing, you can somehow scroll down past the end of the page.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] snachez:
hmm, that sliding, bouncy menu looks kickass, but is pretty annoying. i dont want to hover and wait for it to do its slideyness before I can click a link. Functional usability before fashion is important to a lot of folks.

Apart from that, will be good when finalised. Just make sure every single app on there has at least a few screen shots. :)

Also, I agree with SeanFromSoCal - Cracked apps are a sure fire way to stop any new apps from being developed. If you pay the dev's, they will continue to create & update their programs.. if there is an abundance of cracked version available.. what incentive do they have to keep developing. Everyone loses. If you're too poor to pay for an app you find usefull, you're prolly too poor to afford your phone bill. Dont be a **** to all the hard working dev's.

..How would you like it if I lifted your website code (that you've been stressing out over for a few weeks) and opened up a dupe site to compete with yours ? http://www.touch-innovation.net/ is readily available for purchase.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheChampJT:
Whoa! I was wondering where the warez references were coming from, now I see.

Yeah, no warez!!! If you plan to post that, guarentee you'll lose the help from xda users, and others as well. Not to mention, it isn't safe, and the site may be shut down for distributing the software.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Sean: PM'd you about the exploit - I'm very optmisitic about it :S My code all looks secure to me (I could of missed something though)

Okay I'm sorry about suggesting cracked apps - It was a suggestiong, and it's not going down too well - I listen to you lot (believe it or not) so I will stop that idea :P

Also the menu could be changed so when you hover over it stays open for ages instead of opening and closing!

It will also have a top navigation bar so easy for all.

GUYS please listen, you may think "sure this guy has been raving about it" but 1 man cannot see his own errors, that's where I need you to help me out :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] grandpareza:
Thanks again for your efforts. Im looking forward to this.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pat123:
Nice work there. Looks good.

One suggestion: How about making a mobile friendly version of the site as well ? It would help people to use it directly on their ppcs.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheChampJT:
Mobile version would be awesome!

Anyways, see it's up and you've been adding to it, need anything just send a PM!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] t.fabien:
And that's why a readily available CMS can be useful.... ^_^

Don't take me wrong Napbree, you got a nice piece of website design here, but there are lots of CMS out there that will do the job just perfect. It's not a matter of re-inventing wheel, it's just that a product that has been tested for 2-3 years is logically less prone to security exploits

Menu looks great, maybe you could add a little "fade-in" effect to the text when it appears, or maybe set the text to be visible even during the collapse/expand of the menu (overflow property should do the trick)

Also, mobile version would be very useful, I tend to browse this kind of sites on my ppc, and it's often very hard to read anything, even though it became a little less awkward with opera mobile

May I suggest not to have all files hosted on rapidshare? I find it's a pain to use but it's not a major issue when it's used on a forum, but on a website, things are different... maybe you could even be a mirror for those wanting to host a project? You could even imagine opening mini-sites to project developeprs, letting them post there files and news, kind of a portal for the best of xda dev applications... That would keep things tidy and clean, more efficient for everyone (I hate reading a 150+ posts thread just to know what's new on my favorite app)

Keep up the good work, and do not forget the most important thing ina website is its content

PS: and oh yeah.. pics, we need pics... I want to see right away what an application looks like and what it does. design is great, but it's a bit dark and all-text
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
That was indeed on my list: get a mobile version on the go, first of all I need to make it bug free, and a nice experience for the computer user. Then I will move over too the mobile version (the mobile version will be on a sub domain: m.touch-innovation.com) And it will redirect automatically if you go onto the main site (no subdomain).

I honestly can't see any exploits! Everything is checked 3 times over before it get's put into the db.

Only thing i need to do is set the rating system, to only allow one per ip ( I turned it off, for when I was testing :P)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ajm144k:
so would you mind maybe putting up a link for your website on the first post or your sig or something instead of having us search around and try to find out what the talk is all about?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
I didn't want to show you guys without all the content - but I forget i gave the link a few days back (oops).

So yeah ok - adding to sig and first post
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
WOW. good job on the website

I never thought it would be this good :O
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Thanks for that :) - I try :D

Anyway, im going to edit the menu, so it bounces open on page load

and STAYS open. Makes things far easier for you :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ajm144k:
thanks

gotta have some basic kinds of advertisement if you want to draw people in!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Well it's not ready yet, so I didn't want it too be announced - but no point hiding it now :P

Anyway - fixed the menu, it stays open :P (Ok fine, im using a dodgy hack but it will work :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ajm144k:
well ive only known about your website for about 5 mins, but i like the idea. maybe ill suggest http://www.ftouchsl.com/ as it seems to be a program designed strictly to help in losing your stylus. the older ftouchflo versions can also be found on xda
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Thanks I'll upload now! I'm going to add a link on the site, where you can submit content - and then I can go through them and add the ones that are good :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Moe5508:
Awesome work dude - this is really impressive. Maybe we can ask the mods to link to this site by making this thread a sticky?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
I'd hope they would - It saves a hell of a lot of time for the browsers of the site.

I am going to make an rss feed so people can subscribe and easily see when there's new content - It's on my todo list (which is HUGE :P)

First I need to get content on the roll, so anyone who wishes to help me PM me :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
One of my freinds has suggested something really good - "allow users to sign up for e-mail alerts"

So you enter your email address (They will be encrypted to a custom algorithm, so if anyone was to hack the db they couldn't read them) and you'd get daily notifications (or when new apps are added)

How do you like that?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mb:
XDA is really - dare I say it - a glorified message board powered by the user-unfriendly interface that is vBulletin.

There needs to be almost an "iTunes" approach to all the amazing homebrew stuff on here. As people have mentioned before, it's a nightmare to find stuff as it's splattered across so many pages.

There needs to be a thinking of what "XDA 2.0" might be like.

Couldn't agree more on some fresh thinking to take this website to the next level, whether that's here or elsewhere I don't really care. But it needs doing and fast.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
That's what my aim is - to bring all the best of the best togeather.

If you read near the beginning of this topic, I plan to make another site like the one I have now, for all freeware programs and stuff, with orginized methods of getting stuff.

I just need to see how well this site does first before I contemplate it!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] infernalshade:
-Without reading the whole thread-

Good site man, but the Navigation-Menu is annoying :D smooth it down... ^^
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mienh:
I agree that the menu should be smoothed when scrolling. Another suggestion is to have the menu stay open as it scrolls after the initial mouse over (or click?).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
On my enormously large "todo" list, it is there - of course it's near the top. I plan on making it bounce open on page load, and then stay open, and then scroll down with you (smoothly, not like it is now)

Also it will have a top navigation just incase anything goes wrong with the side nav :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
RSS feed will be up tonight! I'm setting it up so it shows new "news posts" as well as new programs.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
RSS feed is now setup:

http://feeds.feedburner.com/Touch-Innovation-News

This includes news posts and new programs, please subscribe! :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] grandpareza:
This is an awesome site you built. I'm really excited. Do you have any plans to introduce user reviews. As in, to allow users of those apps to write a few words (or paragraphs) about the application?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] superflysocal:
don't know if this mentioned yet, but for contact managers, many including myself have replaced PocketCM with iContact (many versions but the main two are Burt Edition and subpro edition), mainly due to speed.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] snachez:
I hate to be the party pooper, but check out http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/ and punch in your URL

The site load is 484 kB, that's almost half a MB data transfer just to visit the home page. Not very cool if your on a limited data plan like most ppc users. Even the feeds page is 0.25 MB. Granted its mostly images, but its not very handheld-friendly.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SeanFromSoCal:
While 484KB might be high for some people with a per KB/per MB data plan, its good for a website that is being viewed on a PC or unlimited data plan. Why don't you turn images off when browsing on your limited data plan?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SeanFromSoCal:
We need organization!

You make a great point. But currently this is no open source out of the box solution to organize everything that is going on here on XDA. To do it right its a very daunting and complex task of custom programming. I started doing the database planning (over 60 tables so far) and section brainstorming in the winter, but had to put it down as some other paid projects got in the way.

At least in the meantime until I get my butt in gear, Napbree is taking on the challenge of doing some organization with the finger friendly apps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
Superfly: Yup I know of iContact, and you'll be pleased to know that truburt has allowed me to host it exclusively on my site - so all updates are posted on my site - and you can view there.

Snachez: Hmm, I see what you mean, anyway I'm creating a mobile version of this site - no images (on todo list :P), and I need to create a printerfreindly page (no css = no images) so that if you dont want images, and the (*cough* sexy *cough*) design.

Sean: Sounds like a nice idea - do you plan on doing it in an application of website?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] t.fabien:
who says 'CMS with 3 templates' ? I still believe you're reinventing wheel on this point.

On a side note, links from the rss feed won't work,

eg: first article of the feed links to 'http://www.touch-innovation.com/news/post/3/' whereas it should be 'http://www.touch-innovation.com/?mode=news&id=3'

(Can be fixed two different ways)

Finally, just a little idea: it would be great to have a comprehensive list of all/best available themes for each application. I mean, i click on battery status, read the article, see that there are skins out there, but where do I get them? would be great to have the best of them in one place.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Napbree:
I know about the rss feed - I did it last night (set up the links to go there), but it seems my htaccess file isnt working :(

Lemem sort it out now...

And hmm - Yeah I like that idea - I will start on that now.