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[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ashenphoenix:
ASUS rep. confirmed that 5Z will be released in the US, but the 5 won't (only the global version, which is already available). The 5Z will be released in mid or late August. (This date is also confirmed on phonearena: https://www.phonearena.com/news/Asus-ZenFone-5Z-ROG-Phone-release-date-US_id106236)

Personally I think it sucks that they announce a phone in February, but you can only buy it in (late) August. Though the phone is already available in Europe and many parts of Asia it should be noted that the 5Z's camera app is unfinished. It doesn't even have pro mode and panorama mode, while the cheaper Zenfone 5 has all of these features.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
That timing sucks. I was hoping it would be available sooner. In my quest to find the perfect phone for my needs, I picked up an Essential phone and surprisingly I really like it (I thought it would be too small and I've read tons of negatives about it online). I'll probably still pick up a 5Z when it's available because I really like the 5 except for the speed (it's not horrible but it is slow compared to the current 835/845 phones).
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sammae7:
Mid to late August is ridiculous. Chances are I'll end up getting a U12+ before then as I need to upgrade soon. I was really looking forward to this device.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gumbyx84:
They should be running the same app as they are both using the exact same camera (as far as I know anyway). Weird. Maybe it's just a Play Store update away.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
Wish they would hurry up
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
$499 US..! Rejoice brothers.

https://m.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_5z_usa_august_13-amp-32410.php
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
I'm glad it'll be available soon. The silver model isn't available for pre-order yet...hopefully that'll change very soon.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
Good. The day after my birthday so I'll make sure I grab it sometime around then
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] vv211:
I don't like that they're limiting the US version to 64GB internal. I know it has expandable storage, but I've had bad experiences with SD cards in the past, and some apps just want to use the internal storage.

I did find a 256GB version at banggood here, but I've never bough from them, and while it doesn't specifically say which version it is (A/B/C), I'm thinking C because it lists bands for CDMA, which only the C version has (according to ASUS' site)
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] XblackdemonX:
Amazon.com
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
It's possible a 256GB (w/ US warranty...) variant doesn't exist. I would take the listing with a grain of salt until it pops up on another US store like Bestbuy or Newegg.

It's also likely that the Amazon page is incomplete or a WIP.

Edit: It says this in the Q&A section

"Only the 64GB version is being offered in the North American region."
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] vv211:
Oh damn that sucks.

TBH I'd take increased capacity over a warranty :p

I don't mind getting like a global version or something with no warranty, just as long as it works with US carriers and its specs aren't crippled. The one they're offering on Amazon has reduced RAM too :rolleyes:
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ascertion:
64GB is not so bad when you have an SD Slot. But I'm wondering where else they are cutting costs for such high end specs. Perhaps weak Antennas, USB 2.0?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
- No IP68 (?)

- FHD+ IPS screen vs QHD OLED of competitors

- Lack of HDR10 (?)

- Weak WiFi (?)

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- Fewer LTE bands

- Gorilla glass 3

- No QC 4+ charging (?)

- Widevine L1 (?)

https://www.androidauthority.com/widevine-explained-821935/

The phone is probably USB 2.0 and not 3.1 spec.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
Newegg has it listed now and it shows a release date of 8/6. Link: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875220078

B&H has it listed too: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...845_6g64g_bl_zenfone_5z_zs620kl_dual_sim.html

Both of the above are the blue version. I can't find the silver version on either website.

However, zones.com has the silver listed here (http://www.zones.com/site/product/index.html?id=106290967).
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Araa01:
U are developer??
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
It is on the ASUS store site now also: https://store.asus.com/us/category/A50071

No silver color though. :(
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
Haha, no. My schedule wouldn't allow for it, and I barely get enough sleep as is! But don't worry, there are 2 Telegram groups, plus...this phone is treble compatible. Eventually we'll have TWRP and access to all the GSI builds.

Newegg > Amazon. NE is tax free in certain states.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ascertion:
According to Amazon questions, this supports VoLTE on TMobile (not WiFi calling though.)
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
Amazon is currently showing 9 blue ones in stock (https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ZenFone-5Z-ZS620KL-S845-6G64G-2160x1080/dp/B07CLT3BDN?th=1). No word on silver yet though.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
Ill probably order mine in the next week or 2
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] charlatan01:
Seriously considering one.. I am a bit hesitant as I am used to lightning fast updates from the likes of Sony and Essential. This would also qualify as the largest device I've owned, but I'm getting over that.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
The 5 has been getting frequently updated and I just read the 5z just got a update for the camera within the last day or 2
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
Essential already has P previews for the PH-1, so they're right behind Google with updates. Asus is not on their level pal. I haven't read anything about a P beta for the 5 or 5z.

Anyone know if the phone has the July security patch? Monthly security patches should give some insight into their speed.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] olive23:
The Zenfone 5 has July patch.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] charlatan01:
Yeah, I hear ya. I don't need updates that fast, but they have spoiled me ?

Glad to hear they're on July patch.

I'm also happy they've released kernel source.. others aren't as forthcoming.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ascertion:
Amazon shows shipping in 1-2 months?

Also, according to the Amazon Q&A, USA gets the B variant.

That said, looking for the USA item on sites like EBay is extremely tedious because the model number is the same for two variants with different band support...?

eBay has a 15% off coupon starting tomorrow that I was planning on using but it looks like only international variants are available.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
Doesn't Asus have a official eBay page they sell their products on
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sammae7:
Amazon showed the "shipping in 1-2 months" message the other day, then out of nowhere it changed to "14 remaining". Now it's back to the "1-2 months" thing. I believe it's just a precautionary estimate.

I'm a little agitated that Amazon seemed to have gotten stock and started shipping before Asus's own store. I pre-ordered from Asus and it just "shipped" a little while ago.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
I thought Asus shipped to deliver the day of release if you pre-ordered? I'm looking to get mine hopefully next week. Hope best buy or someone has it by then
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sammae7:
Not in my case. Mine just shipped and should be here Saturday. What I also find odd is I received no email updating me on anything. Not for shipping and no tracking number information. I had to check a few times a day through my account on their site.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
I signed up on the website to be emailed when the phone became available but I got nothing. I'm most likely going to order direct from Asus but I'd prefer to just go to Best buy and buy it same day avoid the shipping and possibly missing delivery.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
I ordered the silver one on Amazon when it was available to order but not yet in stock. Now the silver one is nowhere to be found on Amazon or any other website. I've asked ASUS on their website, twitter, and Facebook pages when the silver one will be available and I've gotten no response. I really want this phone (silver only) but I'm about to give up due to the lack of a basic response from ASUS.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Eagle1337:
seems like an odd thing to skip.. the silver is so much better looking in videos than in photos too.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] FYL21:
I won't be surprised if this phone is outdated at launch (well, there's already the ROG Phone on the horizon) and probably won't be released officially in Canada.

A local seller in BC told me they can offer it for 820$....
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
Every chip becomes outdated at some point. The next Snapdragon (855) will be here within the next ~6 months, and newer phones will feature fingerprint scanners embedded underneath the screen. But yesterday I read Qualcomm has already begun work on the even newer SD865, which will be built on 7nm EUV (allegedly). :cowboy:
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
I just gave up and ordered the blue one today. So if anyone wanted the silver version, it'll undoubtedly be available very soon. :)
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ascertion:
Newegg and Amazon sold out now. Low stock, or high demand?

Surprisingly these forums seem very inactive. Is there a lot of development for this device?

Seems like Bhphotovideo and Asus still have it in stock.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ascertion:
Almost pulled the trigger yesterday but with the Poco phone being announced it looks like a better value. I'm going to hold off and see what reviewers say about both.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
Poco phone?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
The Poco phone looks interesting but if it is going to have MIUI then it's a no go for me.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ascertion:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-launches-poco-brand-india/amp/

SD 845 + 4K MAh battery.

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It does have MIUI but it will be Treble compatible.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ascertion:
So, I looked at the Pocophone and it did not appeal to me. The notch is way too large and the device looks cheap and is plastic!

I decided to purchase the Zenfone 5z for myself via Amazon, because I was getting tired of waiting for the tax-free options to become available. We'll see how it goes. I've got 30 days if I don't like it.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
What's the shipping time on there I looked in Amazon and they're saying 1 to 2 months
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ascertion:
I paid an extra $3.99 for overnight shipping -- I'll get mine Friday.

But it shows up as Free Delivery to my location by Saturday (2-Day).
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ascertion:
So, this is interesting. I received my device today and have applied all updates from Asus (it took two immediately). However, I noticed VoLTE does not work on the device. After some Googling, I found a dialer screen that should enable VoLTE, but it is completely greyed out. This conflicts with Amazon's Q/A where they stated VoLTE should work on T-Mobile specifically.

Going to email Asus and see if they have any tips. Otherwise this will be going back, unfortunately. It does look like signal tends to be a bit stronger on this device over the OnePlus 6 though.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
That's odd it's listed to support it in the FAQ here http://www.androidbeat.com/2018/07/asus-zenfone-5z-faq/

keep us posted bnh just got it back in stock today I was just about to order until I read this lol
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ascertion:
Asus is telling me that T-Mobile needs to provision my device (which is true, but my account is already provisioned and enabled by default. The device must be capable, software-wise, to utilize VoLTE). So the issue is definitely on the Asus side. Maybe they are working on an OTA, as I don't fully trust normal chat support to understand more technical details like this one.

So far, I've noticed that signal on the Asus is quite a bit better than my OnePlus 6. (Band 66 and Band 4 are the same). The Asus is on the left in the screen shot.

Despite this, the device is very smooth and I do like the screen and speakers. I personally prefer LCD over AMOLED due to peace of mind in regards to screen burn-in.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
Thanks I have TMobile so I'll likely be having the same situation I'm curious if anyone else has it on TMobile and got it working this is the first time I'm hearing this jwilliams over on YouTube reviewed the regular 5 and he said everything worked on his
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
Amazon has both the blue and silver in stock now (only 18 silver left at the moment though). This is the first time I've seen the silver actually in stock. And stupid me went ahead and ordered one despite already having a blue one. Oh well, I guess I can sell the blue one.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
I can't decide which one I wanted the blue or silver. Why did u order from Amazon instead of bnh? Bnh they don't charge taxes. I put the order in Amazon would be charging me roughly $550 bnh my told is $499 free expedited shipping
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
I bought the blue one from Newegg for that very reason and because I had a $25 Newegg coupon so it came to around $475. Amazon is the first one I've found with the silver in stock and ready to ship so I went for it.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
Newegg doesn't charge taxes? How did you get the coupon I'm trying to order one today or tomorrow
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
Newegg collects tax in CT, state gov't came down on them.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
They have a promo for $25 off purchases of $200 or more if you pay with Masterpass. Here's a link with more info: https://www.newegg.com/promotions/nepro/18-1970/index.html
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
Thanks about to check this out now

EDIT: How are u finding the us version on Newegg? When I search it it only shows the unlocked regular 5, there's a link in this thread to the silver 5z but that's out of stock. I can't find the midnight blue at all, I can't even find the silver one unless I calling the link in this thread

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Can you link the midnight blue U.S version? I can't find it through their search
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
All the links I'm using are in this press release (https://www.asus.com/us/News/WfspEI6CvI9WND74). However, the links to Newegg now go to the silver one which shows as out of stock.

Now that some have been sold you may be able to find one on Swappa (https://swappa.com/buy/asus-zenfone-5z-unlocked) in the coming days....
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] sedp23:
Thanks how's Newegg is out guess I'll have to do bnh if I want it now
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] 92GTA:
Bought mine from B&H and it arrives Thursday, I can't wait! It's my first Android phone coming from 15 years on WM.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
Coming from WM, you may want to check out SquareHome 2 launcher. I was a WM user and still think it's a better OS than Android or iOS. SquareHome 2 does a pretty good job of looking and working like the WM launcher.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] 92GTA:
Thanks, I'll look into it. I'm not really wanting to make it into something it's not though simply out of habit, I'd rather learn real Android first.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
FYI, I put my blue one on Swappa in case anyone is interested.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] ditchmagnet:
Has anyone had a mouse working with PUBG through Octopus? I tried it and could get the mouse to look around, but left click wouldn't shoot so that's useless.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] houboy:
Has anybody sold/traded their Note 8 for a OnePlus 6? Does anyone have both? If so, how does the OnePlus 6 compare? Obviously the OS is different, faster processor and GPU, but I would like to hear people's thought about whether they like it better, if there is a way different feel to it than the Note 8. I am currently considering switching over myself. Thanks for your thoughts and opinions in advance!
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] wtr_dhd:
Note 8: better screen, better camera (debatable), ip68 certified.

Op6: fastest phone on the market right now, nothing can beat it. OxygenOS is smooth and has no bloatware. Battery life should be a bit better than your Note 8 too.

I had an S8+ before this which is very comparable to your Note 8 and I don't regret it. The speed and snappiness of this phone is addictive.

I am a hardcore user.. lots of video calls, heavy multitasking with ****loads of apps open on the same time, gaming (pubg) and the phone never breaks a sweat.

Oh and gotta love the dash fast charging. Half an hour and you're back with 50% charge.

The camera is by far bad, close to flagships but missing out here and there to be as good as S9 or P20 pro or Google Pixel 2 XL camera. I recommend watching some reviews to get more insight in the camera. I'm personally not disappointed.

Hope this helped. Good luck.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] monakh:
I also came from a dual-SIM 256GB N8 and mostly agree with what you have said but the camera, man, it's horrid. Nowhere as good as the reviews claimed and absolutely abysmal in low light. It is a very fast phone, the fastest I have ever used (have used dozens and dozens of smartphones over the last twenty or so years). I miss the wireless charging, though I got around it by adding the wireless charger sleeve but it charges very slowly.

By the way, if you trip Knox and install a custom ROM on the N8, it's also pretty darn fast. Just a bit more work to do that. I definitely miss the Note 8's camera.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] keaheng:
If your always been using a flagship phone, oneplus is not for you. Its made for budget type people. The screen, camera, overall experience is not for you. Its for people who dont care about a little small thing thats is missing but the speed. But for the speed itself it does not much different from the note 8 so imo its not worth changing (im not saying upgrading)
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] b.huss2:
See I disagree. I've always went "flagship" in the past. I've stayed with Samsung mostly, and coming from the note 8 most recently. I am not really missing anything. I love this phone. Best of all, I'm back into the custom side of Android again and I get to play a little. I missed that. There's tons of gimmicky features out there that i could have, but wouldn't really make my personal user experience any better. Honestly, I can do more with this phone. For me and my needs/wants, this is a better phone than the note 8, but to each his own.

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To answer your questions, I do like it better. I love the feel. It's a nice phone aesthetically, and I'm happy with the build quality. Feels better in the hand than the note 8 and definitely fits in my pocket better. Holding them side by side, the op6 is smaller, but with basically the same screen real estate. I'm by no means a OnePlus fan, as this is my first, but this was a good start. I personally am glad I made the switch. That certainly doesn't mean you will and obviously there are others that will disagree. This is just my honest opinion.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] masri1987:
I went from Note 8 to OP6.

Miss the camera just a little bit, and SPen features like cropping screenshots and writing on screen
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] intruda119:
My note 8 was having issues and sold it. It was a few days before the OnePlus released. Only bought it because it holds it value.

Community(not xda or Reddit) makes me dislike the phone. Device is nothing special. Not bad but does nothing special outside of maybe 1hr plus of sot. Quick Updates obviously.

International note 8 over most phones.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] wtr_dhd:
OnePlus 6 pictures. Doubt the note 8 will do massively better. Yes in low light it's not as good as a flagship but it ain't bad either.

https://flic.kr/p/28kXMQq

https://flic.kr/p/JLomF2

https://flic.kr/p/JLokBP

https://flic.kr/p/JLokyn

https://www.flickr.com/gp/156174871@N04/Ms4MC5
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] geoff5093:
I had the S9+ and moved to the OP6. No regrets at all. Sure the camera isn't as good and it's not water resistant, but I don't mind those trade offs.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] Freedomalfa:
came from note 8 ,the only thing from note 8 is camera ,but op 6 has more like fast software ,fast updates better cpu ,gpu and camera for me is not bad
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
I switched from a Note 7 to Pixel XL to OP6 Silk White, and I couldn't be happier. But I also was a big fan of Note 7 over the awful Pixel XL. I am hesitant to recommend OP6 over Note 8, just because I loved Note 7 so much. OP6 is a great phone nevertheless.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] intruda119:
Above sums it up. Can't go wrong with either choice
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] colasante_5:
sold Note 8 for OnePlus 6 (my first OnePlus phone) and I'm really happy with it. Obviously it depends on what you're searching from a smartphone. If you like speed, fast updates and modding (like me) you'll never regret the change ;)
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] leondestiny:
is the performance better on the op6 ??
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] b.huss2:
there's no doubt the performance is better
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] leondestiny:
thing is, the price of a s9+ is very close to the price of a 128gb OP6 from where im from..

so im torn between those 2.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
I've set up an S9 for a friend, and it was a fantastic phone. The one thing to consider for sure is that an OP6 comes with a plastic screen protector factory installed and a silicone case (which is actually excellent,) so you are good to go out of the box. I had to spend about $60 to put a Dome screen protector and a Slickwrap on the back for the S9. Takes time and money if you want to protect the glass surfaces. It's amazing to me how no large company like Samsung ever thought of it.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] b.huss2:
That's a tough decision for sure. I guess it depends on what you need out of your phone. I wanted to get back into heavy customization (I like to tinker with stuff and the note 8 was locked down tight), and out from under TMobiles thumb, so I sold my note 8 and give up my jump plan. It was the original jump too, which made it a very hard decision...but necessary to truly get free from TMobile.

After doing some research, the OnePlus 6 just stood out to me as the best choice. I'm not regretting it at all. Super fast phone. Great Android experience. No frills but I'm ok with that, and it's got just enough that I might even used the frills that it does have, and developers will add more . I'm pleased with the caliber of developers that are showing up here. Exciting for sure.