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[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
Oneplus 6 is not certified for use on Verizon network.

There will be no support from either Oneplus or Verizon for this phone.

Period.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] sterns:
Thank you, duly noted. I think we are arguing over two different things.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
I haven't argued a single time. I have only stated easily verifiable facts.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] sterns:
Everything I have stated is verifiable.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
Verifiable by what? Installing a beta OS and basically hacking a device to work on an unsupported network?

Listen to yourself!
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] Logan0829:
...the dudes just saying how he got it to work? Kinda what the post was made for lol. Who cares if it's "officially supported" smh lmao.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
Who cares? Potential buyers. People spending hundreds of dollars.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] Logan0829:
But he got it to freaking work so why does it matter lol. Potential buyers see what they're getting into if they're reading this. My God how dumb can people be ?*♂️
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] sterns:
I would say that anyone looking to buy the OP6 with the intention to try to get it to work with Verizon know what they are getting into, including the possibility it does not work at all. The OP6 in general in the US is a bit of a nerdier phone to begin with. It's not what I would call mainstream.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
Potential buyers do see what they are getting into-

only because of my posts, and mustibeta's https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=76949730&postcount=3

This is the whole point!
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] Logan0829:
ORRRRR they see that if they buy the phone and use dp2 they can use Verizon ?? if they're okay with that then there's no issues with buying the phone.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] sterns:
From reading other forum posts on this subject I knew what I was getting into. I was prepared to switch to T mobile. With regards to the 5T posts, it seemed like half of the people got it to work with Verizon and the other half did not. 50% is not persuasive enough to hedge $580 on. So I think it has been made clear elsewhere. If someone does not do their research ahead of time then that is very much on them.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
OP6 is not compatible with Verizon.

https://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-6-doesnt-work-verizon-or-sprint

https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-6-sprint-verizon-compatibility-866662/

The original poster is trying to convince you that he can get it to work with a beta OS and a few tricks.

Avoid at all cost!

Neither Oneplus nor Verizon support this phone on Verizon's network.

Even hardware of OP6 doesn't support ALL LTE bands used by Verizon.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] sterns:
It's been confirmed, User: nabbed is in fact a loyal Verizon employee. Not to be trusted, this man ONLY supports at Verizon network free of "unsupported" devices.

Avoid at all cost!

Do not be fooled by his android community signature, he only supports Verizon controlled devices and infrastructure. Don't let him convince you that following corporate-set guidelines is the only way to live.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
I don't quite understand why this is happening.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] mastibeta:
Y'all are hilarious. If you got it to work, that's awesome. Maybe it will be a permanent loophole, maybe the full android P release will prevent access to Verizon network...no telling. I also wouldn't encourage anyone to buy a OP6 with hopes of using on Verizon, but if you have the cash and want to try...more power to you.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] stevew7:
Thank you for the helpful post.

For the record, I understand op6 is not officially supported on Verizon. However, neither was the zte axon 7 and it has worked great for the past almost two years due to the assistance of users on this forum.

I don't want to carry two phones and just need voice to work even if it is on 3g. The second sim is my Verizon work line. So my use case is a little atypical. However based on the 50+ pages of posts in the zte axon 7 forum, there are many USA power users who were using their phones like me with Verizon as the backup secondary sim.

I am a power user like many users on this forum. I understand the Verizon "experience" may be poor because this phone is missing Verizon's key LTE band 13 which is the only lte band in many areas of the country for verizon. For others reading this thread, if Verizon is going to be your only sim, the op6 is not for you unless you are willing to accept 3g only and be warned calls and texts do not seem to work on stock Android 8.1 as of 6/29/18.

I will join the p beta and give it a whirl and report back. Thanks!
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
OP6 is not compatible with Verizon.

https://www.androidcentral.com/onepl...izon-or-sprint

https://www.androidauthority.com/one...bility-866662/

The original poster is trying to convince you that he can get it to work with a beta OS and a few tricks.

Avoid at all cost!

Neither Oneplus nor Verizon support this phone on Verizon's network.

Even hardware of OP6 doesn't support ALL LTE bands used by Verizon.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] SelfElevated2:
One plus 6 only supports gsm networks and bands. Verizon and sprint use cdma bands to make and receive calls. So sorry will not work on Verizon
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
Incorrect. OP6 is supported on the US Cellular network, which is CDMA based, not GSM.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] SelfElevated2:
Yee it is but only because of the frequencies us cellular uses. Its very clear what carriers are supported in us on their website
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
Don't understand. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with what I said?
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] SelfElevated2:
Im not agreeing or disagreeing. Im basing my info off whats written on one plus website. You are correct it supports us cellular and thats cdma. However the main cdma carriers verizon and sprint aren't supported. I don't know why and don't care. I have tmo. But this op is being given false info. It doesn't support Verizon.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] sticky_racing:
OP is coming from Axon 7. It's not certified for vzw either.....

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He's definitely disagreeing with you. You should fight him.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] crazdgrunt99:
I do find threads like this quite interesting. I have found videos on Youtube of people getting data to work on LTE and CDMA X1. I agree partly with [MENTION=2848395]nabbed[/MENTION] as he is correct about it not having all bands (missing B13 LTE) and that it's not officially supported by OP or VZW. However, this does not mean it's impossible for it to work on the network. it will have reduced coverage not having B13 but will have B4 and VZW has the default deployment of B13, B4 on every site now so coverage may just be bad deep indoors or far from the tower. Sadly Verizon is no longer allowing new devices on the CDMA network ready for shutdown and OP6 doesn't have VoLTE by default VZW.

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I do find threads like this quite interesting. I have found videos on Youtube of people getting data to work on LTE and CDMA X1. I agree partly with [MENTION=2848395]nabbed[/MENTION] as he is correct about it not having all bands (missing B13 LTE) and that it's not officially supported by OP or VZW. However, this does not mean it's impossible for it to work on the network. it will have reduced coverage not having B13 but will have B4 and VZW has the default deployment of B13, B4 on every site now so coverage may just be bad deep indoors or far from the tower. Sadly Verizon is no longer allowing new devices on the CDMA network ready for shutdown and OP6 doesn't have VoLTE by default VZW.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] geoff5093:
Proof? US Cellular uses CDMA, have you verified it works for calls and texts over CDMA? Because on Verizon I can connect to 3G just fine, but it's data only, no calls. Also, US Cellular roams on Verizon and Sprint for voice in more than half the country, so without Verizon and Sprint calling support, it's not really supported.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
I am sorry, I don't get it. You want me to check if US Cellular CDMA bands are supported?

1) Both USC and Oneplus have it on their websites that OP6 is supported on USC. The conversation should stop right here.

2) OP6 has a CDMA modem - CDMA 800 / 1900 & TD-SCDMA. https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_6-9109.php

3) I am sure that, aside from a single LTE band, the Verizon network would also be supported on OP6. However, it's not authorized. Verizon simply does not allow OP6 to be registered on their network. That's my understanding of it.

I heard that if you call Verizon or USC and tell them that you have some authorized phone, like a Pixel or something, and you get a guy in a good mood on the other end, they just might activate your unauthorized device for you. Try that.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] geoff5093:
I know the bands are supported, cdma is also supported on Verizon but as we know, just because the phone can support it doesn't mean the network allows it. Where has us cellular said that it works on their network? I'm not disagreeing, I just never saw it stated before.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] SOCOM-HERO:
Pretty stupid discussion all around. If you can get it to work, great. I switched from VZW to T-Mobile for this phone, dropped my bill substantially and the call quality and network are actually better in my area. I can actually make and receive calls from my desk now!

OP6 could potentially work on 75% of VZW's network, but it would need I believe band 13 to work all over. Plus, you need to get the device certified to work on their network going forward. At anytime, VZW could pull your IMEI off their network.

I'd say that this is all moot, because VZW is phasing out CDMA in favor of GSM (finally). Plus, if you want a OP6, you know darn well it is a GSM phone. Get a GSM network.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] x111:
Verizon is a very trashy service, why would you use it ?? people should stop using this trash, and make Verizon bankrupt !!

However, oneplus must support any couriers frequencies on this planet.

anyway, as long as you have internet connection with this garbage Verizon, you always can use online phone number.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] geoff5093:
Why is Verizon trashy service? It's the best network on average in the US for coverage.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] x111:
mainly because of CDMA and complete absence of using normal gsm frequencies, no excuses for it !!

it's like no excuses from any company by not including 3,5 audio jack !! nonsense !!
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] geoff5093:
It's not nonsense, Verizon chose cdma decades ago and at the time it was superior for range and reliability. Besides Verizon is LTE now and cdma will be retired next year.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] strictlyphat:
Dude same here. I had oneplus one and two, years ago on TMobile. Went back to Verizon and missed it so much. Recently convinced the wife to switch to T-Mobile because our monthly 24 gb for a family of 4 was running out with 7 days left. TMobile paid off all eip via prepaid card and my bill is 75$Less. 2 days later got this oneplus 6 and couldn't be happier.

Also the building I work in has a TMobile tower on the roof so I'm loaded with signal AND RADIATION. LOL
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] crazdgrunt99:
It's not bad because they use CDMA, in fact, most countries that large geographically use it like Canada with Bell and Tellus and Russia with Tele2. and worked well for them. Also, talking "absence of using normal gsm frequencies" in the US all networks use non-standard bands that are really only used in North America, for example, B13 LTE and B4 UMTS/LTE with more but too much to write here. Most other countries use the same as here in the UK and most EU and other countries for LTE use 3/7/20. However GSM 2G, yes they are the same globally for networks that do use it like T-Mobile and ATT in the USA.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] waltermax88:
I have bought and returned every Oneplus phone that came out, and was heartbroken that I couldn't get it to work on Verizon. So I got the Oneplus 6 yesterday and after downloading the ROM for Android P latest update, it is working perfectly on Verizon and I am thrilled. Try it. You'll love it.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] Eric214:
So you're saying that latest Android P had the OnePlus 6 working with calls, text and data with no issues? :rolleyes:
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] waltermax88:
No issues.

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Got it to work perfectly with Android P beta 3 update. Followed instruction from online site. No root. Everything is perfect and I am overjoyed. Even have simultaneous voice and data which I didn't expect. Didn't have to change any of the settings or anything. It just worked. This is verification of your work.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] crazdgrunt99:
Was it LTE when in a call or X1 CDMA using data?
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] waltermax88:
I have no idea. It looks like in the top right hand corner it says 3g. Switches back and forth to 4g. But I'm getting 10mbps download. By the way, I'm only getting simultaneous voice and data on wifi.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] crazdgrunt99:
Ok cheers.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] halocon:
Is that MegaBytes per second or Megabits? Kind of confusing when you type acronyms in all lowercase.

Mbps = Megabits per second

MBps = Megabytes per second
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] APrettySwellGuy:
Just dropping in to say the ZTE Axon 7 isnt official supported, yes, but it does officially support all the bands required (This "official" is the word of ZTE, not Verizon). You can pop in a SIM thats already activated and it works.

When that one user said "Previous OP have worked on Verizon" - that is very sparingly. Usually missing main features. The guy with the "Dont Tread On Me" flag was in the right. Even if you can somehow hack the phone to support a band that even OnePlus doesnt officially support (regardless of Verizon), that's risky, and you may as well just either get TMobile or get a phone that supports all bands.

But the big thing for people like me who found this thread looking for an answer: It lacks band 13, it doesnt work to the fullest extent. I feel the same sorrow you do. But then again, ZTE is a nice brand.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] waltermax88:
Megabits
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] KamranMackey:
Just wanted to pop in here real quick: TELUS and Bell don't use CDMA anymore. They shut down their CDMA network on January 31st last year. They're now GSM-only carriers, so they've been the same as all other carriers in Canada since then except for Sogetel. The fact that Verizon still uses CDMA is ridiculous but I'm glad they're shutting it down in 2019.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] quantumcity:
You can get it to work on Verizon and people have done it. Yes, OnePlus and Verizon won't give you support but so what?
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
Extra information to those who actually may need support, but won't receive it.

Just trying to be helpful.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] SnarfSnarf:
So by your logic the OP6 needs to be certified on the thousands of networks around the world in order to register on that particular network. I can't imagine that world. There are phones I have bought overseas that are not certified for any of the US carriers and they register just fine with a proper sim card (GSM).

Best just to say the OP6 does not have all of the CDMA bands that used by Verizion's infrastructure.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nabbed:
This is not a logic thing. It's a fact. OP6 website does not list Verizon as a supported carrier in the US. Multiple technical publications reported that exact same thing. If you try to activate this phone on their network, they will refuse.

You can trick a Verizon rep into thinking that you have a different phone and maybe that will work. You may even be able to trick them to enter your IMEI into their database of legal devices. However, if you already have a Verizon sim, you may get it to work, like someone people did here. However, any hiccup in the system, they upgrade it or check your account - your IMEI will get blacklisted.

GSM has a completely different set of rules - you can use any gsm device on any gsm network pretty much without restrictions.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] techlogik:
You guys claiming it works on VZW are full of garbage. The chipset doesn't have band 13. Which is the main LTE bands they use everywhere. If it does get a signal, post a video of your phone so we can see it for real making calls, sending texts and data. Guarantee you might get some crappy 3g legacy band and possibly 1x CDMA partially, but you are not going to have the real VZW speed coverage and bandwidth you pay for. You can't make firmware and chipset bands magically work from Android P that don't exist.

Will monitor thread for your video.

Also, there are plenty of apps which will show your bands and signal, install also and post in your video as well, along with kth these magical web links to make it all work you claim are around.

Thanks
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] tian6869:
you understand this is XDA forums, the place where people trying to "modify" phones which ALSO are't support by the carriers or the phone maker (e.g. will void their warranty), but people posting the instructions and other follow the instructions any way?

What is the different between those posts and this one?

Why are you keep attacking OP who just try to share his info and experience?

Also, in OP's first post, he already state that the phone is not working on Verizon network. So, even what you are saying is true, it is just repeated information, not extra or helpful information.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] george241312:
It works I've tried it, Only issue i had though was really slow text messaging. Texts take around 30 seconds to be received, normally its instant.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] geoff5093:
It works, but is severely limited. Definitely not viable for people in rural areas or weak signal areas.

It's been posted many times, and I've also verified, it works on LTE bands 2 and 4. Verizon usually has at least band 13 and 4 deployed in cities and larger towns, so it will work there, and in rural areas on 3G. But you're right, it doesn't work on band 13 so Verizon performance is extremely poor.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] arwaldon4:
Is there anyway to tell if your area is using band 13? I really want to get a OnePlus 6, but wouldn’t shell out the money if I couldn’t use it somewhat, relying on bands 2 & 4.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] Mike02z:
May have been said but the OnePlus phones are missing LTE band 13. This is the primary band for VZW. Yes, there are 2 other bands that the OnePlus has that are part of the VZW spectrum but you'll have inconsistent results. If on VZW, forget OnePlus.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nujackk:
Did you actually read that? There is no band 13 on the op6

Only 4 and bc0 and bc1.

You will not get the best possible performance using this phone on Verizon. But it will work.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] arwaldon4:
I’m sorry. Did YOU actually read? I simply asked if there was a way to find out if your area is using band 13. You know a generalized statement about the spectrum. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] nujackk:
It's Verizon's main band so unless you're in a small town or rural area then. Band 13 is in use
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] crazdgrunt99:
Yep, if you go to a website called cell mapper. if you look for select provider and search Verizon - 311480 and on the left again look for location and search for the area you want to look at. sites will appear Green = placed and Red = estimated. PP me if you need any help :)

OP6 also has B2 did you actually read the thread or OP6 spec sheet? It is true that you won't get the best performance and will have reduced LTE coverage deep indoors or rural areas but, most of the sites that have B13 also have B2 and B4.

Actually, in cases, as B13 travels further its deployed rurally like in small towns as it can reach much further than B2 and B4. however not saying it's not present in cities as it does give very good coverage indoors and is deployed on a fair number of sites..
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] mrbrandonscott:
Verizon works just fine now

For what it's worth, my OP6 just got the update to Pie last week, and yesterday I noticed my Verizon SIM is working just fine without any intervention from me. Texts are working, calls are working, and LTE data is working.

Before the update, I could only get it to register on the phone as a Verizon SIM by setting it to the default for data (I use a T-mobile SIM as primary, VZW secondary). When the T-Mobile sim was selected as default for data, the Verizon SIM was showing as 31000 instead of Verizon. After the Pie update, it now shows Verizon all the time and never shows 31000.

Before Pie, I could only get VZW data to work, and calls would go straight to a VZW message that said it couldn't be completed because I "didn't have a valid phone number." That and texts would never go out. Now calls and texts both work, and without me doing anything at all to the phone other than doing the OTA update to Pie.

:good::good:

To others point, there is no band 13 on the phone so reception isn't going to be as strong with Verizon in rural areas. But the fact calls and texts are working now is huge for me.

Also another exception- before Pie, Verizon worked "normally" on my OnePlus 6 when I visited Puerto Rico, with texts and calls working. I think the reason why is that it seems like everything Verizon in PR is through a third party network, as the Verizon SIM showed roaming the whole time I was there. I think it even showed roaming on a VZW iPhone a co-worker had.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] waltermax88:
Thanks for that!

Hi: I've been on Pie beta for awhile and occasionally try out my Verizon sim. For the most part, it works, but sometimes it goes off network and can get it back on if I restart it. Hope when I get the OTA of pie it will smooth it out. I really do like this phone. I've had a lot in my life and I enjoy using it. Easy, fast, smooth and fun. Going to put my Verizon sim back in right away. Thanks for the encouragement.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] mrbrandonscott:
Just a heads up, I may have spoken a bit too soon. For the most part everything I said true, and outbound calls and texts are working. I just realized though, when I responded back to my Verizon text I never got the message. So it looks like Verizon texts will go out, but its not receiving for some reason. Either that or its just taking a really long time, and I still haven'y received it as of this posting...

As far as calls go, I can definitely place outbound calls from Verizon now, but I have my Verizon number forwarded, so I can't confirm if it actually receives calls.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] waltermax88:
Yes. I just downloaded the stable version of Android P and put my Verizon sim in. I can verify everything you said. I am not receiving texts. At this point I am switching back to my Verizon phone. I really have fun with Oneplus 6, but texts are a pretty important part of my life. Let me know if you have figured anything out.
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] dgunn:
You could use Google voice and forward your number to Google voice to get text and incoming calls. Google voice is free within the United States
[OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers] mrbrandonscott:
I'm actually forwarding my Verizon number to Google voice... that was my work around for getting Verizon calls on my OP6 before calls started working with Android P. Texts however, do not forward to Google voice. At least not with the forwarding I have in place... I would love it if I could forward the texts.