yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] martyotaku:
here r the cabs i had ....might be they r older versions?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lusta1988:
I know...but he is about to release the hybrid based on nothrills build...which im guessing is probably also from att...judging by the same radio which for this reason is probably the only one to work with this rom....so. Anyway that would be nice.....he could work only on the rom build and the windows mobile newest build
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
looks like they haven't fixed the glitch on OZ (at least on aim) where it constantly shows the notification up in the top bar even after you select go or close.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sebastianmc:
any difference in video performance??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xzon:
anyone having trouble cooking in a different dialer? i cant get any to appear they all come in white blank
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] punkcell:
This is the best day ever come home from a game of paintball to find 2 new roms waiting to be touched.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gadgetdad:
Two items, any other mirrors out there, stuck on 0% trying to download on both of them....

Do you need Hard SPL on this one? Just had my tilt replaced and havent done this yet as didnt know if i wanted to try shipped rom for awhile first or not. I would love it if I could flash straight instead. Any help would be appreciated.

Nevermind on the mirror - Rapidshare is back up and going... but still looking for help on need to hard spl....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fb401:
This is awesome. All I need is for somebody to strip out the bloatware and leave it be.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] XtreMe_G:
being that its an at&t rom, nope you dont really need hardspl to flash this rom, but why take the risk?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gadgetdad:
thanks for that... i have to retract my statements on the mirrors i can't get anything to download right now....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Im uploading to 4shrared right now. I know there is already a 4shared mirror out there. I can upload to Megaupload after this if you like.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gadgetdad:
Nice! You are going to make me a Raiders Fan with that effort :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] the_passenger:
"HTCHome"="2_10_18132020_0"

isnt it the newest?

I've stripped it and custom to my taste but it seems like it doesn't reset at the end of customization. Hm, I did something wrong? :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Raspster:
Question, how much ram is left after all the bloatware goes on...?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] the_passenger:
mine is around 150mb available.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] 65coupei6:
On my Tilt with fresh flash it shows:

114.55 Total Storage

85.27 Free

101.32 Total Program

67.17 Free

It's interesting that is has MSVC 1.6.19209 (most updated version) but it still has the Unknown or Private Caller bug which will not announce or play a ringtone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pietrucci:
Compared the list of software with the 19202 version.

Seems quite a few applications in 209 are older than the 202 one's...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Here is a megaupload mirror

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RZHPZ0JV

4Shared Mirror

http://www.4shared.com/file/42402293/38f829a6/RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_.html?dirPwdVerified=3055f585
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gadgetdad:
Thx Got it to dl, flashing now :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] herg62123:
Here is some picks for those who want to see them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Looking over your comparison. Most are not too bad except its seems very odd they would use the older camera. I wont be suprised if we see another version of this ROM pop up in the very near future.

Has anyone stripped this and seen if it includes the new HTC camera fix?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Yes i think that is the newest. Id like to see an extraced version to play with and see if its different. If one isnt around before next weekend I may pull it out myself. I have a super busy week at work this week.:(

Can anyone who has installed this comment on the home?

Has ATT ever included a HTC Home before in any of the previous roms? I dont remember it in any of the official releases.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
I decided to put my phone to good use and stop flashing until the official shipped ROM comes out.

Gotten really tired of bug hunting with WM6.1 3.02, 3.03, 3.08 & 3.10. So I'm not even going to bother with 3.14.

Someone tell me if you can cook out SQM with this version... Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shafez:
I thought I was the only one flashing all the time somtimes 3 times a day.

I guess I will follow you and start to use my phone too

Regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] princeasi:
well, i think there is something fishy with this rom. Awhile ago i ported the 6.0 att customizations to the wm6.1 3.02 rom and ended up with this same type of rom, with the same errors from the porting. These errors were: startup animation without sound, and cingular video not working! With that being said, you would think this would be an automatic fix from att, even in a test rom!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] idj1975:
nice, i have to use bbc for work & the 'hung' vibration was getting really annoying in the other roms
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Raspster:
Ok, so it looks like there is the same amout of bloat as before with the 6.0 att rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fb401:
To answer your last question, no AT&T has never included HTC Home before.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] abhiku:
Bluetooth PBAP in WM6.1

Can someone verify if BT stack in WM6.1 has PBAP (Phone book access profile)?

I need to transfer address book to Accord navigation system & it need PBAP to be enabled on phone..

Thanks for looking..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
YES, The PBAP protocol is included in the test image.

Also, For all the people squaking about older programs, I can tell you a lot of the CORE components have been updated. + the 202 version doesn't count, it came here modded already.

For the noobies wondering what this ROM means:

A couple of things you need to understand. THERE ARE NO SHIPED 6.1 roms until a device ships with 6.1.

The is a release of the final MS code, shippinjg to OEMs officially on Tuesday. It is NOT important for any applications. It IS IMPORTANT for base MS apps & overall system improvements.

It will not be important for apps, until HTC has gotten their hands on it & reworked the OAL (OEM Adaptation Layer).

So this may be great for ficing issues & speeding things up, but I have completely stripped it & while a lot of the core components are updated, the apps, & etc. are still par for the course, some even being older. But again, the apps in it are what HTC provided MS for tresting purposes & these will be modified AGAIN once the OAL is reworked. I am certain the INTSHRAPP will be better hidden this time too. Or reworked for monitoring.

This is the FIRST KAISER oriented ROM (Particularly AT&T) to ever be released & right now it is a complete mess with over 20MEGS of the famous AT&T crap ware.

There will be more, but not until the HTC folks & AT&T have had a look & there say.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirooga:
arcsoft version

which version of arcsoft mms is this rom running? do we have confirmation that mms is working with att service on this rom?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
A few more tidbits!!!

1. This rom is set to communicate with MS on a twice-weekly basis.

2. The cid.dll camera module is newer that that of the fix on the HCT website & indeed contains the fixed code.

3. The big one!!! At least for the time being, or for test purposes at least, AT&T has

NOT

found a way to monitor the use of Internet Sharing!!!! Instead the ar using xml to kill it, deleting it during customization. So tether away, but of course don't over do it. ;)

4. ArcSoft MMS 5_0_31_7 WM6.1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irockash:
Has anyone tried the Video Share on here (does anyone even care for it)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Confused Stu:
Thanks for the info. Don't suppose you know what info it's sharing with MS, do you? Currently playing with this myself, but if it's timebombed then I won't even think about releasing.

Thanks again.

:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] eagle 1:
I did get a wierd sms after I installed this rom

it said "WVCI 1.1 111"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] skyfighter:
Does anybody has an idea for what purpose the ROM communicates with MS!?? :eek:

Where did you find this info!?

In the Quality Hotfix from the HTC Page is a CIF.DLL with the version number 3.21 - in this AT&T Test ROM is a CIF.DLL with the version v3.14. Are you sure the last one is newer? :confused:

According the Options Menü in the MMS-Folder it is v5.0.31.11.

Did anybody manage to cook in the standard 3G Video Dialer from Kaiser? I have the Dialer with Smartdialing and the Video Dialing Option Menü, but everytime I try to make a video call it only does a simple speech call (although I'm in a 3G covered area). Looks like I've missed an Option or a few Registry keys!? :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] martyotaku:
thanx for the info GSLEON3.....anyone got a clean rom yet?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
For all you ROM flashing junkies, I decided to quickly cook up what y'all have been asking for, a version without some of the AT&T bloat.

Here is a quickly modified version, with all the CABs remarked out from OEM\OperatorPKG\config_operator.txt, to prevent automatic installation. The cabs are still there.

;CAB: \WINDOWS\MP_CVSDcpl_20070202.cab

;CAB: \WINDOWS\PP_CWS_PIE_Default_0409.CAB

;CAB: \WINDOWS\C_getmail.ppcwm5.Release.cingular.CAB

;CAB: \WINDOWS\C_GetTeleNav_27Nov07.CAB

;CAB: \WINDOWS\TeleNavPlug_27Nov07.CAB

;CAB: \WINDOWS\PP_XpressMail_launchCamera.cab

;CAB: \WINDOWS\MsPacMan.2577.CAB

;CAB: \WINDOWS\PT_Extra_RIL_Setting_13Mar08.cab

;CAB: \WINDOWS\OZPocketPC_4_1_6_c.CAB

;CAB: \WINDOWS\Cingular_Pre_Midlets_20071219.CAB

;CAB: \WINDOWS\Today_Order_05Marb08.cab

;CAB: \WINDOWS\Move_Camera.cab

;CAB: \WINDOWS\HTCAP_Service_ATT.CAB

You can install these yourself, with either Sleuth's UC 2.0 (added SDAutoRun.exe and modified config.txt) or Tier Install (link found in Start Menu\Programs\Tools), both which I've cooked in.

NOTHING ELSE WAS CHANGED. (Radio & test splash still included.)

I haven't flashed this myself, nor do I plan to, so if you have any problems, you're on your own :D (Which is why I haven't created a new thread about this either)

If you want more stuff removed, wait for someone elses' ROM or extract it and rip out what you don't like yourself, using the ROM kitchen. (The AT&T Bloatware is in the OEM\OperatorPKG folder).

ATT.3.14.502.1.NO.CABS+UC2.0+TierInstall.ROM.RAR

4Shared (complete)

RapidShare (complete)

Megaupload (too many server errors, will try tomorrow if others need another mirror)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] martyotaku:
thanx alex i knew u would come threw......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] djaladin:
You didn't properly log out of OZ Messenger before you flashed. This also happens if you turn off your phone and back on without properly logging out. Log into the OZ Instant Messenger, and then back out. That should fix the weird text.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fb401:
YES!!!! You are the best Alex.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Thank you very much kind sir.

I'm sure I speak for the entire Kaiser Community that your presence is greatly welcome and always appreciated. Looking forward to when you release a WM6.1 ROM as I know you are waiting for an official release :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] swtaltima:
just wondering if this being an att rom does it have the ability to pick up on the whole unauthorized internet share thing I heard a short while ago? Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirooga:
ok so flashed alex's and MMS works! Very nice. Can't wait for fully cooked ROMs from this. The speed is great. I assume this is just something from alex's have-bake for us but every time I reset my phone tries to connect to media net and fails. It works if I tell it to connect right after that so I have no idea why it fails that first time. Thanks Alex for the quick release of this ROM to start trying it out.

Hah have to search again to find how to remove PTT. It's been a while.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Here is what I use for my connection settings : )

There is the PPT fix for anybody who needs it as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] PointZero:
HardSPL?

Sorry for the newbish question, but does this test ROM require HardSPL? I'm excited to give it a try, but I don't really want to go through HardSPL if it does require it. Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
It's not hard to do a HardSPL.

I would highly recommend that you do that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] the_passenger:
you can't.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
VSBenchmarks

For those who have flashed, would it be possible to install/run Spb Benchmark and VSBenchmarks? I'm interested to know what if any speed enhancements exist on this ROM vs WM6.0 stock and other WM6.1 stock ROMs (NoThrills 3.14 doesn't count).

Thanks in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
These test were performed after a fresh flash and a hard reset before testing.

_Alex_ 3.14

VSBenchmarks

Graphics Test: 1138

Others Test: 1817

JPEG Test: 2374

Games Test: 1359

Sound Test: 0630

Final Score: 1463

SPB Benchmarks to follow.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hackmania:
delete folder

Gret work alex but 2 questions:

1 how do i delete the folders that appers on programs (the one that has the at&t name like a&t mall that still appers on programs

2 i dont see the uc2.0 or tierinstall
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shogunmark:
Has anyone noticed the default APN for media net is IWS.att (i think or maybe .cingular, i already changed it when i couldnt connect anymore) instead of WAP.cingular?

what prompted me to look is that i couldnt connect yesterday and when i did it was sloooooow like around 400k for downloads... after i changed back to wap.cingular everything was good again. I also noticed i couldnt use certain internet apps with IWS (opera beta, skyfire beta), i believe they "fixed" some things with that new apn.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Sleuth255:
@chefs playing with this rom:

Another quick cook to allow customization to stop on reset for testing purposes may be to replace checkautorun.exe with an older version which sets autorunflag in hklm/comm. I've just started looking at this ROM and the AT&T bloat is everywhere :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
YOU CAN CRIPPLE IT THOUGH. ;)

I think you may be able to rip it out as well, but it'll take a bit of work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
It was covered in the SQM + WM6.1 thread. Sleuth255 removed some DLLs (discovered when comparing his ROM w/ 3.02 stock), while akadonny went further, with steps provided in that thread.

It's another reason why I don't want to cook one of these ROMs. Debug mode with phone home capabilities is a sneaky way to get feedback. No wonder why these ROMs get leaked out by Microsoft, HTC & AT&T so easily. They want us to be their guinea pigs and fix their bugs, all for free too...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Squuiid:
Just got a Sleep Of Death on this ROM.

Won't wake from sleep and had to remove battery.

Shame, I quite liked it apart from this and the echo/reverb during a voice call when I spoke.

Original AT&T Tilt ROM did this too. None others since however.

Going back to NoThrills v3

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=379411
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] djaladin:
Cellular Video Working?

I'm sorry if this has been covered in other WM 6.1 rom variations, but with this being an "official albeit test" Tilt ROM, I was wondering if anyone can get Cellular Video to work? I'm one of those rare people who don't totally hate all the bloat because I actually use most of those things from time to time. I can understand that there may be issues getting CV to work in cooked roms not meant for Tilt users specifically. But since this one is made by the carrier for exactly that customer, I was hoping it would be functional.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fb401:
Sir, this is what you need: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=333898

There's a tweak in the program that changes what you device is identified as. In a custom rom the Kaiser is identified as HTC_Kaiser, which is wrong. It needs to identify itself to the AT&T network as the HTC-8900 which KaiserTweak can do.

And I'll say it before the others, make sure you try to search first.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] djaladin:
No offense, but why does everyone assume that you haven't search just because you don't have an answer? I thank you for pointing me in the right direction. But even searching within that thread for the term "cellular video" yields no results.

As we all know, searching is what we tell everyone to do before posting a question. And as we all also know, searching often does not reveal the results you're looking for unless you use the perfect terms that the search engine is looking for. None of my 5 wording combinations could find anyone that got it properly working.

In every previous 6.1 ROM, it was broken. So I simply waited for someone to work on it as I have not had the knowledge. Stupid me for thinking AT&T would get AT&T's feature working. :P

Again, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I'll post back if it all works out.

******** EDIT ******** No luck. The Cellular Video link now works because the device is recognized properly, but Real Player is unable to connect. If anyone has any other ideas, let us know! I'm a half a step closer to working CV now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirooga:
signal strength and gps lock

I'm not sure if this is true for anyone else yet but this radio has amazing signal for att in so. cal. In google maps I am getting a gps lock in 10 seconds or less outside. In my house 15 to 20 seconds. I'm also getting at minimum 1 extra bar of 3g in my house.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anubis9278:
i tried it today. its a lot better than before.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irockash:
Before where? On the Tilt or on something else? Thanks for letting us know!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gadgetdad:
Rom Thoughts

Great reception in NW Ohio prolly best seen on stock or cooked so far.

GPS fix was less then minute on Tom Tom and held 8-10 sats whole time.

Had issue with "error connecting bubble" yet posted fix of editing medianet connection to wap.cingular instead worked great and actually increased speed of teathering.

Videoshare is smoothest i have seen on an att phone - very quick load time, pic quality is good and lag is decent.

Changed device name in advanced config to 8900a and able to get everything used to be able to on old stock rom but still getting error in real player for CV like other poster Anyone Have a cab for realplayer to see if downgrading the prog will get the error to go away.. (tried quick search didn't see anything) To further Clarify I have searched and found cabs for real player but they all include reg edits to change non att stock roms to allow for cell video. I am looking for a clean real player only cab to replace the one there and not change anything else since all else is working great for me and i dont want to take a step back on other items geting this going.

HTC Home Plug seems to slow device down significantly. On all other roms with Home enabled and no background running programs i would expect 60+m free prog space yet on this rom it consistantly drops to 40-45 with no running programs. Once removed from today screen shot up to 50m free, still lower then normal and would love to find out what else is dragging this down. BTW using quickmenu display mem free in titlebar as gauge for this.

Switch to slide open screen refresh rate is very quick once updated settings in advanced config, faster then thought i would see from stock rom, competes with speeds i realized on Alex's roms.

Bluetooth stack holds good for all three headsets i use, able to get 5-10 feet further from phone then was able to on old stock rom and still stay clear.

Only other wish for this rom would be to use a different dialer screen and still maintain ability for VS. I tried retouched dialer and option went away so i assume ability is tied to dialer.

Just my humble thoughts...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stozmon:
In San Francisco I can report similar findings as in socal and others. Amazing signal strength and call clarity. VERY zippy, even with all of the bloat. GPS locks in less than 30 secs INSIDE...that is absolutely unprecedented for me, GPS was always VERY slow to lock regardless of what I did. CV now also recognized but real player exhibits unknown error.

Near-Best ROM I've used, and I've at least tried most of the popular ones floating out there. Can't wait to see this thing run to its potential.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tankers:
I have been running this now for 3 days. So far, the ONLY thing I can't seem to do is activate the Voice Command with the talk button on my bluetooth headset. To do this with the 6.0 versions, I simply installed voice command. Anyone else having this issue? Anyone solve it?

thanks

troy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] leoiden:
come on peopl;e extract the cabs for voice command and music id and other applications that are newwer!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
DUDE, What's the MATTER with you???? Don't say that crap. You're gonna have every idiot from Timbuctoo to B.F. Egypt trying to install this on their HTC TYTNII.

It'll work for your AT&T unit, but not other CID locked units from other carriers. You're gonna have 20 idiots a day PM'ing me to get them out of BL.

This is an AT&T ROM!

NOTE: ALWAYS HardSPL. I have seen AT&T slipping new security protocols into upgraded SPL versions. If you do not HardSPL before flashing ROM's you just may end up stuck with that ROM until someone with the time decides to fix it.

I have had three issues already this week where new guys flashed the updated AT&T rom withou HardSPL & so far all three of them are now stuck with AT&T roms & have not been able to hardspl.

If people try flashing this without HardSPL & end up stuck or Bricked, please contact: gadgetdad, LOL ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dcd1182:
i ported this OS to my HTC titan and I have the same issue using a plantronics 510. hoping someone finds a fix...