yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] speedy56:
I don't know what it is, "wifi connectivity" alarm isn't as bad for me as it was on LOS-based rom

Is battery (and deep sleep) better on that kernel?

I'm using better battery stats

Anyway, the rom is great, this is the only thing that's bothering me.

Edit

I dont know why i cant upload pics with Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Okkakoko:
Signal interpretation may b fine now.. but..more battery loosing than previously build,:3
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] loorenz:
This is the first cycle, now I'll try BBS...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] speedy56:
There are my bbs stats (managed to post the pics via pc).

Soo... "*job.delay* alarm is eating a lot of battery. "Wifi connectivity manager" isn't so bad.

Is there any fix for this? Besider this android drain, everthing else is fine - whatsapp doesn't consume much, same with play services.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] peter-k:
Use Lightning browser. Chrome is a battery pig.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Jevinruv:
Use Kiwi Browser, Got more features, and has playstore updates aswell (CAF) Link
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] alreadyregistered:
Kiwi is not really great in battery.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] speedy56:
I don't get it...1.5 alarms/min

Is there any way to fix this?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] akhilnarang:
Haven't faced any such issue, used them for quite a while here and it was fine.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] L-ViZ:
+1 for lightning browser

very fast n lightweight :) if u don´t need you pw´s synched and tabs, go for it.

using it for over a year
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] darshan1504:
[MENTION=5854483]akhilnarang[/MENTION] Can you enable the option to have no navigation bar again? I use Xposed edge and it glitches with the inbuilt navigation gestures and navbar. I even tried editing the build prop but the navigation bar appears again after reboot.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] irfanfdl:
Is this normal? The highest frequency doesn't move
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] akhilnarang:
Yes its gonna be added. Many users have complained about this. There will be a release this weekend which will allow you to disable both.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] peter-k:
Will you as well add that system apps can not be removed anymore?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] speedy56:
I've also had that problem (I'm using Swipe navigation).

Managed to get around it by installling xda's Navigation gestures app, hiding the navbar with it and than Swipe navigation worked just fine.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] xdatin1:
I was flashig aosip for redmi note 5 whyred but in settings/about phone I see that phone description is Mi A1. Can you fix this? Is there any way to do this myself?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] raymondsanusi:
Do u flash mod cam or module
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] learnerz:
how to enable ram bar in recent??
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] alreadyregistered:
Whyred for me.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] xdatin1:
I am. From magisk Mi A1 ported camera.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] bhatshravan:
I'm noticing some 6-7% drainage while screen off overnight of 8 hours in latest build while it was just around 2-3% is previous build
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] void74:
Hello akhilnarang,

first of all, thank you so much for the latest AOSiP version. Together with Derp Kernel 2.0, I am obtaining much less battery drain overnight and succeeded to reach 3 days of light usage with 8 hours SOT (and two sims inside). Thanks, thanks, thanks!! :)

Only a few questions:

- I think there is a bug in the integrated Camera app of your ROM (I suppose to be Snapdragon Camera), because I can't succeed to enable the GPS in the options, even if the GPS permissions are granted to the Camera app;

- What Camera app do you suggest to use in AOSiP, if I don't want to use the integrated app? MI A2 Camera or Google Camera? (and, in the latter case, what variant?)

- Is it possible to add the RAM bar in the Clear Recents button and memory usage statistics button in the quick-toggles menu, like in AOSP Extended?

- I normally use two SIMS, having a preferred one for data traffic/SMS and on-demand for outgoing calls, and noticed that the Provider indication in the upper left corner reports *randomly* one or another provider, while I can see both, in the right order (SIM1 and after SIM2 provider) if I scroll down quick-toggles menu. Is it normal?

Thank you again!!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] akhilnarang:
If Google Camera, then MGC works well for me, otherwise you can try A2 camera, I personally haven't tried it.

No new features will be added most probably.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] peter-k:
A2 cam works fine for me.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] xdatin1:
Which kernel is best for aosip (whyred redmi note 5) ?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] sushanth_smarty:
Dude its because updating/dirty flashing removes encryption.. I clean flashed it and now tez works...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] learnerz:
even i clean flashed.. but tez isn't working.. tell me the procedure please
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] sushanth_smarty:
Well I use twrp 3.2.2.1 , formatted data and then installed zip .

Boot and check tez .. If it doesn't work go back a build...

If tez works then you can go on to root with magisk latest beta 16.7 I think..

I'm on RR now.. But AoSIP worked.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] raymondsanusi:
That module change ur device name
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] mehedirishan:
One issue here. GPS is not working. I had the same problem in 9.5.22 China rom. Then I flashed 10.8.8.9 global beta and masik 2.4. GPS worked fine on both. The problem is back again in Aosip. Please fix it.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] luisaosan:
I'm facing some issues with Bluetooth in latest build, let's say I'm using my device with a specific Bluetooth device (sound box), when I connect to other one (car or Bluetooth earphones) the device connects just fine, but the sound is reproduced in my rn5 and not the Bluetooth device (that happens while connected to the bluetooth device).

A reboot fix this problem, but I have to reboot everytime I want to switch Bluetooth-sound devices
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] ThePianist97:
I'd like to report a strange fact (maybe not a bug but it's strange): using the chess app "Lichess", I can't play with other people because ,when I do it ,it seems like my profile is connecting and disconnecting from the server. But when I play in anonymous way or in browser ,I have no problem so I think it's the ROM (I also tried to uninstall ROM but nothing worked with that app)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] bayad:
Derp 2.1
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] peter-k:
Which one is the last version with no system file protection? Or, is there a way for switching system file protection off?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] xdatin1:
Camera Mi A2 (magisk module) freez or restart phone when I use front camera. Is this bug on aosip or Mi A2 camera.

Gcam works ok.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] learnerz:
thank you.. updated to 16.7 & hide telephone & google related apps in magisk.. now tez is working fine! ???
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] efex09:
I am on 5 August build. I need to encrypt the device. When I tried to encrypt by going through

Settings->Security&location->Encryption & credentials ->Encrypt Phone

the device reboots without being encrypted.

p.s.I have not flashed gapps.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] bayad:
Derp Kernel 2.1
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] cesarXP:
The stock kernel it's Derp kernel
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] dhirajahuja432:
I really love edge gesters but that not included in this ROM can anyone help
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] peter-k:
Anyone, please?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] cesarXP:
Search navigation in OwlsNest

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Nobody knows
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] peter-k:
I'll try the last one with the flashing bootup animation then.

It pretty sad for me with all this to happen, and seeing Android becoming another IOS.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] THEBANDIT420:
Hey guys love the ROM only issue I'm having is unbearable lag when using chat heads on Facebook messenger, everything else is super quick. Anyone know a solution?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] dhirajahuja432:
Searched and enabled only home gester works not back gesters plz help
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] sidamos77:
Which firmware version is recommended for this ROM (pre-Anti 4)?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Hucast_DL:
[MENTION=5458687]dhirajahuja432[/MENTION]

This is called swipe up gesture if you swipe up from center is going to home a d if you swipe up from the rigth or left is going back... If you swipe up from Middle and hold is going to recents apps
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] biswassumit25:
Wakanda insane battery life is that? Thanks Dev! Much appreciated... [MENTION=5854483]akhilnarang[/MENTION]
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Matt17BR:
Do you get standby battery drain on wifi with AOSiP? Also is that theme integrated with the ROM or did you get it with Substratum?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] biswassumit25:
Didn't check about standby battery drain.. I usually charge at night.

I won't charge tonight and monitor the battery drain. How much drain is acceptable over 8 hrs, with wifi on?

This is included in rom, change the main theme to "blackAF" and the secondary colour to "lime".
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Matt17BR:
Thank you, that's cool. Basically the custom ROMs for RN5 all seem to have the same issue with standby battery drain with wifi on, for me it's like 1-2% per hour (running latest official RR O build) while it was basically 1/2% for an entire night if not less on MIUI. Most people get similar numbers. I think I've read somewhere that the latest weeklies of Lineage fixed this, so not sure if this also goes for AOSiP.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] biswassumit25:
If one rom fixed this then we can hope our wonderful xda community devs will collaborate and fix this on all roms. Is AOSiP based on LOS or AOSP?

I'll check the overnight battery drain and inform.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Matt17BR:
Based on AOSP I think.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] eualex:
Top:Boa:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] sidamos77:
LOS had an additional problem: It would often not go to deep sleep, after unplugging from USB/charger. They are attempting to fix that currently, AFAIK. Workaround was to use a different kernel.

I even had 2-3% per hour on WiFi with LOS 15.1 (even if it went to deep sleep) and with AospEx 5.7/5.8, so the same issue for both. While it was 0.5% per hour on LTE.

Today I installed AOSiP and will monitor over the next days.

It could also be a firmware issue. Currently, I am still on 9.5.11.0, which was recommended for AospEx.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Matt17BR:
The issue as far as I know is Wifi logging, that seems to happen in a broken way and therefore creates huge text files in a few hours of continuous buggy logging. Talking about ~100 mb which is absurd for a txt file, and when it reaches a certain size it creates another log file. I disabled wifi logging by editing a file in the root folder, cnss something, as someone suggested in another thread, but it hasn't solved anything as far as I can see, so it might well not be the issue. I have no idea anymore at this point.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] sidamos77:
I had no WiFi logs on AospEx, so this is probably not the problem.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Cirra92:
Using AOSiP for almost 2 months, not a single issue with WiFi drain, I have stopped monitoring since I didn't have issues but I remember that according to EX kernel manager it was around 0.5-0.6% per hour (screen off)-deep sleep and standby in between usage combined, where as in deep sleep I've been losing up to 5% in ~ 8 hours with WiFi on.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] biswassumit25:
I lost 6% over 8 hr... From 28% to 22%.. Form 2 am to 10.30 am.

Although I got a lot of notifications at night, 4-5 mails, 20-ish WhatsApp messages, 2 texts, 2 Instagram notifications, 3-4 other app notifications.

I guess it's more drain than Normal, according to what you said? I didn't check this on miui so don't know the difference.

Ps. It's 19% now and SOT is 10 hr 8 min.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] sidamos77:
Those with WiFi idle drain: Do you use Android Wear? (just a thought)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] devender_rd:
Hai, can u disable root so that we can use customs ROMs for bank app. Magisk we can use but it is risk. If it is done we can use customs ROMs for daily driver.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Desmanto:
Hi everyone, I am currently using RR 6.1 20180723 build, experiencing massive wifi deep sleep drain, about 3%/hour. You can look at my post in LOS thread for complete detail.

I have no problem that the device doesn't sleep or keep awake all the time. AFAIK, it is the Google play services on body detection sensor, which use only about 0,18 mA (which is not even 0,01%/hour). I've tried derp kernel too, and still the same drain. That's why revert back to stock.

I have turned it off in RR, still the same drain. So we can basically say that the logging doesn't drain up any battery, it is not the culprit.

Nice SOT, this is the SOT I expected. I can get the similar SOT if I use only LTE in RR 6.1. But if I use wifi, the phone would be dead already before reaching 24 hour usage with less than 10 hours SOT.

BTW, can I know your history ROM? What firmware and kernel do you use? What is your previous ROM before AOSiP? I am from MIUI 9.5.17.0. I flash the firmware 8.7.5 in TWRP 3.2.2.0, while keeping stock boot.img from MIUI 9.5.17.0 Switch to RR 6.1 20180706 build and flash nano gapps for July. Then updated later to RR 6.1 20180723 build, flash nano gapps for August. I am trying to figure out which one is the culprit.

I am thinking it might be caused by the modem partition from firmware 8.7.5, since it is beta. So i am considering to flash the MIUI 9.6.3.0 firmware, but the one without the bootloader, so I can stay still at anti 3.

I don't use Android Wear, only Mi Band 2. But I don't connect it all the time, as I don't use any of its notification feature.

Just use magisk and choose to hide the magisk. Or you can use the hide magisk manager too to obsfucate the magisk manager with random package name. Most of the banking app still can be used, but maybe you have to ask other users to test if first if you doubt.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] sidamos77:
During my 2 weeks of MIUI with Global 9.5.13 and 9.5.17, I did not notice the WiFi drain happening.

I also do not think that the WiFi drain is a hardware defect on our specific devices. Maybe it is the firmware or it is the combination of the firmware with our WiFi routers.

I have tried firmware 9.5.11.0 with AopxEx and I have tried firmware 8.7.5 and 9.5.17 (I think) with LOS 15.1. I also thought about installing the newest possible firmware as next try, since this is not much effort.

Strange thing is, it happens most of the time when connecting to my WiFi, but *not always*. Also, during 2 days on Hotel WiFi, it did not happen (running LOS 15.1 with custom kernel).

Yesterday, I installed AOSiP (still using firmware 9.5.11.0) and had 0% drain in 2.5 hours after install. We will see what will happen today...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] peter-k:
Answering myself. The last version is good. Install ROM, install Lazyflasher, install DisableForceEncryption_Treble_4whyred.zip. Works charms and the ROM boots very fast.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] dhirajahuja432:
Thanks you slowy getting used to it but it's not working everytime I don't know why
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Cirra92:
I'm not trying to be a d*ck here, but why don't you try another rom, say this one or Pixel Experience, rom that's based on AOSP rather than LOS sources. I mean you are having problems on RR and you are still on it, I know it's a good rom, used it for a week maybe, and I understand you want to make it work, but as soon as I went to AOSiP my battery life got better and overall experience was smoother. I don't know, just a suggestion, not that I want to take away anything from the rom itself or maintainer for that matter.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Matt17BR:
Welp, so it's the same as every ROM then unfortunately :(

Thank you so much for testing!

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Nope, never used it.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] sidamos77:
Well, on the 2nd day with AOSiP, I also got the WiFi drain. 3% in just over one hour. This is a real pity, because this ROM was the smoothest so far (compared to LOS and AospEx). And lots of options.

I am now wondering, if Gapps could be the cause because this is something that was always the same on all 3 ROMs. I have Gapps Pico from 20180729. Maybe someone without WiFi drain can share their Gapps version somewhere?

So, my next try will be PixelExperience 8.1. Since there is no specific firmware recommended, I'll go with 8.7.5.

If that also does not help, there will only be 9.0, which is quite unstable right now. Or I will sell the device and return to my good old Mido. Or buy a Chiron.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] :
I used this rom with opengapps pico as well and didnt face any wifi drain. Anyway, you can try with latest opengapps. Did you use gsam battery monitor/better battery stats to check if anything else is draining battery?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] sidamos77:
Yes, but there was no particular alarm or wakelock. The device is in deep sleep 90% of the time and drains battery with 3%/hour on WiFi. On LTE, it is only 0.5%/hour.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Cirra92:
I still don't understand what can cause those issues for you. I have flashed different AOSiP builds 4 times maybe, though it was a clean flash, up to date Pico GApps at the time, I've tested even some 4-5 different kernels as well and for the last month I was on 8.7.5 firmware and I didn't have that WiFi drain not even once. The worst drain was maybe up to 1% per hour on standby, but it was mostly down to around 0.6%.

And the apps that I'm using are not that efficient as well, Facebook, FB messenger, Instagram, Viber and Whatsapp all working in the background.

+ as a special note: I have disabled doze (light and deep) through terminal emulator, though some functionality is still preserved, but that's up to Google.

Maybe you should try going from scratch, flashing full MIUI rom for the device variant you have (using MiFlash otr whatever other tool is needed) and then rooting and flashing AOSiP again, but flashing the firmware files intended for Global/Indian variant, as they always post different ones for China. But that's just a wild guess and thought, I would think that the WiFi driver is messed up somehow if your WiFi module is not damaged in any way.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Cirra92:
Delete
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] sidamos77:
I was coming from MIUI Global 9.5.13.0, updated to 9.5.17.0.

Then I installed LOS 15.1 with firmware 8.7.5 as recommended. The main problem there was often no deep sleep after unplug. So I installed Blackbox kernel and got deep sleep. But still got WiFi drain on standby. Flashed firmware 9.5.17.0 (same baseband as 8.7.5), same problem.

I switched to AospEx 5.8 and flashed recommended firmware 9.5.11.0. Got deep sleep, but drain on WiFi. Then I tried NoName kernel and Derp kernel. Same thing. Updated to AospEx 5.9. Same thing. Tried Derp kernel 2.1. Same thing.

Now with AOSiP and firmware 9.5.11.0. Same thing.

Maybe the WiFi chip does have a defect. Then again, I did not see that drain on MIUI and I am not the only one with that problem.

Maybe the fact that no tool shows something unusual points to a firmware or hardware problem.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] Desmanto:
Yeah, I might be seems nagging too long already. From biswassumit25 test here, it supposed to be clear already that there is no excess drain; 6% in 8 hours ~ 0,75%/hour, acceptable. But somehow sidamos77 shows that there is the same drain here again. I've been testing this for a months, finding and testing various solution. If I wanna switch ROM, I definetly want to be sure that the ROM is free from this bug.

Anyhow, sound illogical, but there are reasons why I still stay on RR :

- Backup/restore is always something that I avoid. I have to made a lot of adjustment again from scratch. I am just curious some people can flash several ROMs in a day, but I just can't

- I use Automagic, and I need to make sure that the flow are all running fine again in the new ROM. I have about 50 active flow with 100+ active triggers. Usually there will be 3-10 flows that will be conflict, since I made it ROM specific customization. I need to readjust them again, which sometimes can take a week (I don't adjust whole day, only on free time)

- RR is LOS based, automagic has the action to change the system database setting for it (even though only in EAP version for now)

- RR haven't been updated for weeks. Even small chance, I will assume the update are more likely to come in near time to fix this.

- All above probably are justification. The main ultimate one is I wanna find out what is the cause of this deep sleep. It may occur again in other ROM as well. If everyone just simply switch ROM after they found some bug and not reporting it, how can the devs know and fix it? I have tested it so far to the extent that I am curious and want to see what is the culprit and what is the solution. This will benefit everyone as well, once it is fixed.

I actually have downloaded the ROM and planned to flash it tomorrow. But looking at sidamos77 post, yeah, cancelled it.:eek:

We got something in common, came from MIUI 9.5.17.0, flashed 8.7.5. I am using nano gapps 20180804. Because you have tried AOSiP and face the same problem, while other not; so it seems we ruled out the ROM also. Kernel seems to be irrelevant. Hardware also no problem, because we will know it already when we are still in MIUI. I wonder if it is the firmware, specifically the modem. Need [MENTION=4884186]biswassumit25[/MENTION] confirmation on which firmware he use.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] peter-k:
Many just need a platform for games, Whatsapp and Facebook, they don't do much else with their phoneys. Next fancy looking ROM just enter Wifi PW and go.

Though I have to say you probably need to download a couple of ROMs and try what suits you best. And you don't need to fully set them up every time just for trying. For me personally RR is not the king here anymore, yep I did see higher fuel consumption when tried it.