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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
EDIT:

SOLUTION in in post #19.

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I'm on stock rooted US998 Oreo firmware with recently re-rooted V30. Before I was using SuperSu with no issues, but this time I'm using Magisk and Titanium Backup says I don't have root. Of course I do and I've given root authority to Titanium Backup in Magisk Manager.

When opening Titanium Backup, I'm getting an error message that my phone is not rooted -- even though I've given Magisk permission to allow Titanium Backup root privileges.

I've uninstalled and reinstalled Titanium Backup (one suggestion)

Someone also suggested installing different version of BusyBox. I like Stericson's Busybox, so I installed that (whereas before I was just running pure stock busybox).

Neither action fixed the problem. I can always go back to SuperSu, but anyone else having the same problem?

I am a reluctant Magisk user, I do like SuperSu -- but surely you can use Magisk with Titanium Backup...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] guapinoy:
It must be the combo of SuperSU and magisk. I just have Magisk 16.4 beta and no issue with Titanium Backup on stock US998 rom. Try a fresh install.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] JWnSC:
I was the same way..but super su isn't supported anymore :( . Switched over to magisk recently and titanium backup still works. There is a few steps I had to do first to get it working properly on Oreo. In magisk manager settings select "global" for mount namespace mode. I also had to change preferences in titanium to get it working. Change app processing mode to interactive, restore 1 app, a window will popup, check allow from this source

After you can change back to "auto,direct" app processing mode in titanium and everything should function like usual.

I have had issues with root explorer initially. For some reason it denied permissions for root without asking. Had to go into magisk, select on the upper left corner, superuser, and enable permissions for that app.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] mehra1:
Even for me magisk and titanium combo working just fine.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
For me it was SuperSu that worked fine since January on Nougat on open market LG US998 V30. But now on Oreo, it's Magisk that's not playing nice with Titanium Backup. Magisk 16.4 beta? I'll try that. I was just on Magisk16.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] JWnSC:
Maybe try restoring unmodified boot.img? Might be super su clashing with magisk. I'm on magisk 16.0 and it's working fine
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I flashed the full Oreo KDZ so that should have restored the boot image. I of course lost TWRP and root, so now reinstalled TWRP and this time chose Magisk -- which is where I'm running into issues with Titanium Backup.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Nope. 16.4 magisk doesn't work either with my Titanium Backup. Real puzzler.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AdmiralKirk:
That is definitely strange. I flashed the full KDZ for Oreo and then rooted with Magisk 16.4 from TWRP and Titanium Backup works fine for me. (It complained briefly about the type of SU I was using but worked fine otherwise).
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] lmservas:
Did you flash Stericson's BusyBox to system/xbin or use that installs every boot method? I know from experience with my S8+ that TB seemed to prefer it in /xbin for sure. Also are you using TB Pro?

This is the first decide that I have ever used Magisk with and I have to say that I absolutely hate it and systemless root as a whole. I can't get a damn module to install in magisk and have only been able to successfully flash a couple zips in TWRP....it's nuts.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] petepc:
I also could not run Titanium Backup initially...

What worked for me was:

1. Open Termux,

2. type "su" and enter

3. Select once only and Grant permission when the su request popped up

4. Exit Termux

5. Now try running Titanium Backup again, and the su permission popped up. Granted.

(running Magisk 16.0 on H930DS V30+)

YMMV
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] gazzacbr:
Working good for me also.

clean install to (unlock bootloader)

install titanium backup

from Backup settings/Backup folder location select "Storage Provider"

make sure it says "Filesystem storage" for using with internal memory.

I initially used an SD card from my old HTC M8 so needed to select "DocumentProvider storage"

both locations worked fine.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Thank you. This will probably be my solution when I have time to mess with it this weekend.

To the others asking, yes I am using Pro. I have used Titanium Backup for years over many devices with -- on both mine and my wife's phones -- and also install it for friends on their phones.

What it's complaining about it is the SU being used. It's not recognizing Magisk's permission for some reason, and this post sounds like the solution. I'll try it this weekend.

The other issue is it's not exactly a clean install -- it's a clone from LG Bridge of my daily V30+ which is not rooted. This other phone I'm installing it on IS rooted, and I'm trying to get all my daily phone apps/settings, etc onto this OTHER V30. I even uninstalled and reinstalled Titanium Backup, but something is still wrong.

Still this solution sounds keen. I'll try it.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] gazzacbr:
Hi, keep checking, it must be something simple.

I can only say its working fine on mine. I have 8.1.0 pro version if that helps.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] gazzacbr:
Hi, what does it show when you click root access on the overview page?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
It says no root detected, yet in Magisk Manager that app specifically has root. I'll mess with it this weekend.

Other people have the same problem so it's not just me with Magisk.

I may have to go back to SuperSu like I had with Nougat.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] fatboysh:
Working fine on mine also
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] SilverZero:
TiBu 8.1.0 working just fine with Magisk 16, although I've only tried freezing and uninstalling apps with it. I'm using LS998 firmware and boot.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Thanks. I also changed to global just now to make sure everything works, but I actually got Titanium Backup to accept root through this suggestion:

I just did this too (deleted the data/data folder for Titanium Backup), and now it's working. When I tried root again, I got this notice below -- but I said don't show again. Seems to be working now. I just backed up all my apps.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Kylewolf:
If this is not working for me what are my options to freeze the update notifications?

I believe I deleted the right things, would you mind sharing the folder locations for both titanium backup folders?

EDIT: messed around in settings of TB, suddenly works, If I can figure out what exactly I did I will share.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] skanskan:
Is it Magisk's fault or Titanium's fault?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Scroll up a couple of posts to see my fix.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=76768430&postcount=19

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] R4Ck:
So, any of the solutions didnt worked for me and i was stuck on the first page of TB.

The solution that i found was to enable the TB permissions manualy in Settings > Apps > TB > Permissions.

After this it works fine
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Hmmm.... just rooted another V30 today and ran into this problem again. Even though I already had a solution I tried what you suggested, but Titanium Backup already had several permissions. I didn't see any that were turned off/unchecked. So, I went back and did this to get it working again:

Uninstall Titanium Backup and then delete the data/data folders for Titanium Backup.

Then reinstall Titanium Backup and give it root permissions.

See screenshots in post below.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=76768430&postcount=19
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Skulldriver:
hello!

I am hoping someone can help me... I am currently using a Samsung Note 9 N9600 phone... rooted with magisk 17.1.

I have tried everything listed in the forum has posted and am desperate for a fix...

any advice or suggestions would be amazing.

thank you!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
This didn't work for you? I'm currently using Magisk 17.3 but still the fix is deleting the older Titanium Backup folders, after first uninstalling Titanium Backup. Then reinstalling so the folders are created FRESH.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Skulldriver:
Hi Matt,

that is correct...done this a few times in different ways...no luck.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Skulldriver:
hi Chazz,

should I update 17.1 to 17.3 for magisks? and if so can I just flash 17.3 over it or do I need to uninstall?

also...would installing busybox pro affect it? it never installed busy box and gave me an error so I deleted it. I was also getting error prior to it.

any help much appreciated
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Probably best to flash the uninstaller first, just to make sure.

But this Titanium + Magisk worked for me even on stable Magisk 16.0 many months. That's where the screenshots came from. It's just I had to do it again when I switched to another V30, and this time I used Magisk 17.3
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Skulldriver:
Hmmm well I'll give it a shot...

And this is what I get for doing this on the note 9 ha.

But sort of new to magisks too.... when I flash the uninstaller... do I need to wipe anything or can I simply in twrp flash 17.3 right after?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Doesn't hurt to wipe the caches first before reinstalling.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Skulldriver:
sorry to keep bugging you Chazz...

my data folder can't be mounted....can't install anything or flash or back up...in twrp.

would you be able to kindly help me walk me through this pretty please :)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Try going to the TWRP reboot menu and then reboot to recovery to make TWP load again.

Also make sure you have let TWRP be writable, to be able to make changes to your system. That's usually something you swipe to agree to in the very beginning and you say "don't show me again" -- but make sure you chose the right answer.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Skulldriver:
Had to do an entire format data wipe.... then installed magisks 17.3. But now getting same error. Going to delete data folder once more and them uninstall and them restart and install. Will let you know and appreciate your time.

---------- Post added at 03:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:03 AM ----------

hi Chazz...

to confirm do you uninstall both TB and TB pro or leave pro installed?

also do you delete both TB data folder and TB pro data folder?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Uninstall both, delete both folders. I only had one folder -- for Pro. (See screenshot, post #19). But if you have two folders, delete them both. You want to get rid of it entirely and start fresh.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Skulldriver:
Chazz! You sir are the man! it finally works thank God.

I appreciate your help and time sir. Wish I could return favor.

I have magisk 17.3 and uninstalled TB first then both TB data folders and then restarted. This time though left TB pro key installed.

Thank you so much!!!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] watashi39:
wrong file permissions (for TitaniumBackups own busybox)

I have a Pocophone F1 running LOS16 with Magisk 18.0, and I have not been able to use TitaniumBackup (currently 8.3.0).

I have tried everything mentioned above but with no success. Then I have tried the steps mentioned in the TitaniumTrack-KB (Home » Knowledgebase » General KB » Root & Rooting your phones). The first steps have worked fine, but the step using the busybox coming with TitaniumBackup has failed:

/system/bin/sh: ./busybox: can't execute: Permission denied

Looking at the file permissions of /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files/busybox has revealed the problem.

-rw------- 1 u0_a134 u0_a134 214328 1970-01-18 17:42 busybox

For some reason this executable does not have the proper file permissions. I have changed these permissions to reflect the permissions of the other binary in this directory (sqlite3) which has the file permissions 0755 (user: rwx, group: r-x, others: r-x). If you are in the directory /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files/:

chmod 0755 busybox

In my case, I don't need to set "Mount Namespace Mode" in Magisk Manager to "Global Namespace", changing the file permissions seems to be sufficient.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] smudgy:
Changed (TB) App Processing Mode temporarily - Result

I had same problem (Magisk 17.1). Simply taking your first step and changing App Processing Mode to Interactive was enough to summon the SU request from Magisk (Magic!) and set it up. I can go back to auto setting now.

As sidescript, I found nothing happened when I started new Rom with v18 Magisk so I Uninstalled and went with 17.1 instead. I suspect now if I update to v18 everything will continue OK.

?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Nemeziz 56th:
You had working SuperSU on Nougat? What would you say, it is possible that SuperSU would work normal on Oreo?

I have Magisk as Root on Oreo and hate it so much.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Yes, but that was a year ago. I've not been on that since Oreo... SuperSu probably no longer hides root. I don't think it's been kept up. Don't know about SuperSu any more.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Nemeziz 56th:
I do not have a problem that supersu cant hide root. 4 Months ago i self tried to set up a working supersu on oreo but without success, just had a hope that this thema will again alive.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Gold_Phenix:
Some buddy tested makisk 18.1?

Wysłane z mojego LG-H850 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I'm using 18.1 and use Titanium Backup daily. But my initial root was earlier version of Magisk, and I updated to 18.1.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] svendsvin:
I've installed Magisk (latest version) on a brand new phone (Samsung Galaxy J4). It is just out of the box. All apps that need root are granted access. Also Titanium Backup! BUT when I start TB I get the error: Sorry, I could not acquire root privileges...

I'm lost here what to do to get TB running. Any help please?

EDIT: I've removed the question to the Magisk forum. Didn't see this was LG V30 forum.

EDIT 2: Though I removed my question solutions are welcome to this very annoying issue.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] zetsui:
Still cannot Google pay or paypal
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
That has nothing to do with Titanium Backup. This thread is about giving Titanium Backup root access with Magisk. You are posting in wrong thread.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] zetsui:
i got my tabs mixed up sorry!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
I have a TB user app backup every other day, but it stopped working, so I uninstalled. When I reinstalled, it would force close, so I fixed it with their FAQ: https://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/ti...m-backup-troubleshooting.html#crash-on-launch

However, scheduled backups still don't work. It says the backup was run successfully on the day it's supposed to, but the backup dates for each app are older. I've granted Magisk 19.1 root privileges, as well as all all permissions through app info. It's essentially the stock TB settings, and I have my backups on external SD. Permissions should be OK for the SD. When I delete all backups, then wait for schedule to backup all apps, it seems to run successfully. Why won't it actually backup via schedule? Is there a setting I'm missing? :confused:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Still working fine on Magisk 18.1. I have automatic daily backups, with most recent dated this morning.

Have not installed Magisk 19.x yet.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
This started well before I installed Magisk 19. I only upgraded because I thought it could solve it. Are there any TB settings I need to have for this to work? It's weird that it just stopped...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
Is there a setting that will not overwrite backups if they already exist? I can't figure out what's going on, but TB claims that the schedule was completed on time, but will not overwrite the old backups.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I use the setting to keep three backups before overwriting.

There is a setting to PROTECT a backup which I don't want overwritten. I use that for the half dozen apps I don't want updated. These protected copies are my fail safe. So, for those I actually have 4 backups -- the normal three and the "protected" copy.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
Well I have no clue what to do about this, nor why it magically stopped working. I have it set to keep 1 backup and overwrite each time. I can't seem to find the PROTECT option you mention though.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Protect this backup option appears when you click on a specific backup. But also may be found elsewhere in the multitude of settings?

I would suggest changing to keeping two backups, and see if it keeps to two? Then run a couple more times and see if either are overwritten.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
This app has become such trash. I set up a user app backup for 5 minutes ago, it didn't start. I opened TB, it finally started, but is sitting on 0%, and I have to force stop. I'm on stock 20G, TWRP installed, rooted w/Magisk. I have turned off battery optimization for TB. Any attempt to contact the developer is never replied to. How's that for supporting your product??
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I open Titanium Backup it opens instantly and starts instantly.

I'm 20g rooted stock firmware also.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
I shouldn't have to turn on my phone, nor open the app manually for the scheduled backup to start, that's my point here. The scheduled backup doesn't appear to actually happen, though it says it's successful, it doesn't update the backup date. I'm glad it works for you, that means there's hope. I can't for the life of me figure out why it won't work on my end.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I don't turn on my display for the automatic backups to work.

But I'm asleep when they happen. I'm talking about now, manually just testing.

I don't know what's wrong. It sounds like something is either conflicting with Titanium Backup running in the background or something with your Titanium Backup is corrupted.

Or for some reason your Titanium Backup does not have all the permissions it needs, especially if it can't overwrite older backups.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
It asks for 3 permissions, and I've granted all 3. I just set up another backup to run after changing backups=2. It backed up 4 apps then mysteriously stopped, no notification, nothing...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] sirganon:
I've been using TB for years and never had any problems once I got it setup correctly. Are you saving your backups to your phone's internal memory or am SD card? If it's to an SD card are you sure you have that setup properly? 99% of the time when I have had a problem with TB it was because I didn't have my SD card correctly setup.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
Same here, just started acting up. It says Filesystem Storage is not writeable, so I have to use DocumentProvider Storage. It's on the external SD, not internal.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] gazzacbr:
Fyi, only permission needed is storage, other 2 are off on mine.

As said above, must be storage access. Did you check storage provider and try internal?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
I get it, you people think that TB can't backup to external SD, but it can and it should. What good is an internal storage backup when I need to wipe and reinstall? I had it working through external SD via DocumentProviderStorage before, not sure why it stopped.

I know you're all trying to help, so I'll see if backups can go internal temporarily. Once that starts working, I'll work on getting them external.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Right. If it backs up to internal fine, then it's something with your microSD card or permissions.

I have mine set to internal, and I can copy the backup to external if I wish.

I've never tried to have it make backups to external, although you're right that it should be able to.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] eigerzoom:
the different versions of titanium backup seem to operate differently in my experience.

there is the modaco plus version and the pro/donate version.

for absolute success on an external sdcard move your backups to the android folder on your externalsd.

'Android/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup' folder

go into TB Menu - Preferences - Backup Folder Location and click Detect and then choose 'Whole Device'.

It should then find backups in the keramidas folder and you can choose that.

You should be able to use the default storage provider 'Filesystem' (option at the top of the backup folder location page), but you can try another if that doesn't work.

WARNING: ALWAYS BACKUP YOUR KERAMIDAS FOLDER !!!BEFORE!!! ANY ROM UPDATES OR YOU CAN SOMETIMES LOSE THE ENTIRE CONTENTS

its happened to me, and it sucks, here's your friendly warning.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] gazzacbr:
Only trying to eliminate the problem step by step.

Of course backing up to internal is not good because you have to remember to re-backup to somewhere else.

This same version of TB on my HTC M8 backs up to the external sd card.

Only problem I ever had was first loading on Nougat on the M8 and that was resolved by changing the storage provider. Did you try the different options there?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
Attempting to choose Filesystem storage claims my external SD is not writable. I used to have an app that allowed certain apps root/write access to external SD, but that was over a year ago. I wonder if something like that would work? I also have Magisk obviously, is there a module that will provide write access through TB?

Since we're talking the V30 here, what folder in Filesystem storage should I be choosing that you all have write access to? Nothing external under "mnt" nor "storage" are writable, the only way I've found is through DocumentProvider, but as we've seen, that doesn't work directly (anymore, for me at least).
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] gazzacbr:
I think when you choose the place for storage you need to select the external sd and then grant TB access to it. Long time since I had any problems so cant remember exactly :confused:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
Wow, so if I can bookend my idiocy with TB for a second? I installed the Magisk module ExSDCard Access Enabler which creates a new path to external under /mnt/media_rw/SDCARDNUMBER. I guess I wasn't getting proper permission through FileSystem nor DocumentProvider to the external SD, but this solved it. So I'm now able to backup directly to external SD once I point to the folder created by the module.

I knew it had to be something silly, I thank you all for your help thus far!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] eigerzoom:
Or you can just put your backups in the Android/data folder on your external SD since android always has write access to that folder regardless, if you bothered to read my post....

this is well documented issue around marshmallow/nougat there was a clear division put on how android handles external media with the adopted storage provisions

https://nelenkov.blogspot.com/2015/06/decrypting-android-m-adopted-storage.html
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
I read your post; I didn't want my backups tucked under the Android folder. Personal choice.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] gazzacbr:
But wouldn't the backups under the android folder be cleared if you uninstalled TB? Maybe to clear and reinstall a new version.