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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] fmorgado1987:
You want fast updates? Buy a Pixel!

Xiaomi is known for it´s great specs/ price relation but it´s terrible in the update department, this varying given model x or y. As for our Mi A1, yes, updates are a little slow but still on time :) .
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] nicolasmart:
I had a Moto G³ too. I've always used custom ROMs with it. It was amazing but stock really sucked.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Klasputnikov:
Xiaomi has the worst community in the world, no doubt.

Anyway, seems like the pre-oreo update, less than 100mb and after 3/4 days Oreo was released.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ritik99:
Actually the case remains same for most devices. Haven't seen many who say Stock ROMs are better than Custom.

I also installed custom ROMs on it, they are working great and community is still somewhat active.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] fmorgado1987:
I hope you mean, the official support by Xiaomi :p.

Because when it comes to the developer community, it´s a whole different story!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] InvalidDNA:
You must read the android one part of Google Support pages. 18 months guaranteed security updates are part of andoind one program.

But, There is no such enforcement for major updates. According to android one program, Manufacturer has to provide at least one major upgrade. This is where people misunderstand the things.

As Xiaomi has already released a one major upgrade (i.e Oreo 8.0), the 8.1 update can be based on xiaomi's own decision. So, we can't blame Xiaomi.

Pixel 2 - 3 years of android updates

Pixel or Nexus - 2 Years of update + only security updates for 1 more year.

Android one - 18months security update + at least 1 major update

One more that has to be remembered is that Android One phones get the updates from Google's hardware partners. Not from Google.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] ГАСООП:
That wouldn't surprise me at all. Notice that screenshots with new patches are floating long before Google itself releases given patch.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] insan.waq3y1:
mi a1 official website saying this

Stay fresh over time

Mi A1 ships with Android Nougat, and will receive 2 years minimum of OS upgrades. And since Android One users are among the first to get new OS upgrades when they’re released, you’ll have access to the latest features and innovations even sooner.

so he promise 2 years of os update

not 1 major update and not only security update
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jfelips:
Am I the only one who remembers that xiaomi promised Mi A1 would be one of the firsts to receive Android P?

But we're not even getting 8.1 atm ?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] taurnilf:
Did Xiaomi even promise 8.1?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cristewor:
May update release for everyone

Release for everyone
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] InvalidDNA:
Lol..

Because, they do not know that there will be a 8.1...!

They have removed the android P things as soon as they came to know about 8.1.

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You are right. They might have used that for marketing purposes. They must have used the word ”updates” in place of ”upgrades”.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Klasputnikov:
It's a bit tricky, the developer community is awesome, the consumer community is really bad.

Xiaomi official support is okay when it takes to MIUI, a bit slower on Android One.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] denisval:
Complete and utter BS. Only Google's own devices are guaranteed to get each version and get it first. If you want the same update frequency as a Pixel, get a Pixel.

These are the Android One guidelines, aside from those we were promised an additional major update by Xiaomi when the device launched:

https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=en

Be happy that you receive monthly updates and an additional because they are in no way obliged to provide more than they do right now, in contrary.

To add to the argument. Be happy that you have Oreo seeing that the adoption rates for Oreo are still on the lowside:

https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] solis_f:
*Insert sarcasm*

Nooo Xiaomi cheated on us by selling us a sub-$200 device with excellent hardware for the price and not providing equal software support with a high-premium Pixel device! :crying: :mad:

*End of sarcasm*
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] taurnilf:
Is this the first time we that we got the 5th of the month update? We usually get the 1st of the month. The 5th matches the security update of the 8.1 screenshots roaming around. 8.1 at the end of the month anyone?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] lukeaddison:
The worst thing about the Mi A1? User's moaning constantly about updates.

This is a super cheap phone that in many ways, performs better than my old Nexus 6P. Monthly security updates are always there before the end of that month and personally, I experience zero bugs.

It's almost putting me off coming to XDA to read about exciting things that developers are working on in there spare time.

The Mi A1 is an awesome phone with great support but this is the first time I've had a device where such a large proportion of the user base are so negative. There's nothing to be negative about!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] SinkyChan17:
THANK YOU. The update discussion is getting old. If you don't like your phone, buy a new one. I used to own a pixel and as fantastic as it was it had its fair share of issues as well. Phones are phones, updates are updates.

As long as you can still use the features your phone came with, what's the issue? What will getting 8.1 really do to you? I'm sure some of you will have answers but.. will they really hold up or be that valid?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ottonet:
Ok, I'll try to put it in the most politically correct way, and I want to be clear for everybody that no racism is intended in my reply.

The fact is that this phone is hugely adopted by people living in emerging markets. Now, I presume that technical knowledge of mass-market devices such as smartphones is not as widespread as in the western/northern emisphere. Last week an user was complaining on xiaomi official forum about I can't recall what app was missing on his phone (Photo Gallery, if I'm not mistaken). He didn't even think of downloading a gallery app from Play Store. He spoke like he didn't even know that something like Play Sore does exist. And he's not the only one!

In addition, there must be cultural habits according to which, many marketing declarations are taken as solemn promises, and a huge importance is given to promises. This brings a lot of misundrstanding around what is released, when it's released and what's the subject of the release itself.

Statements like "They promised that we'd have Oreo by Dec. 31st", or "Xiaomi cheated us" are extremely common, like the suspects of regressions being introduced (allegedly, on purpose) between a release and the following ones.

Again, I have nothing against emerging markets and the people who lives in there, but yes, I believe that for all, some of, or at least one of these reasons the Xiaomi user community is one of the worst around, and one of those where users are constantly moaning about updates.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tiemichael:
To me, as a European living in one of these emerging markets for several years, it seems that these emerging markets have long overtaken Europe and US (sad, but most likely true)

Just look at the multiple custom ROMs for our Xiaomi A1, most of them are developed by people from India, or Indian origin - the most vibrant place for SW development.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] pvineeth97:
Yup. Devs especially from India have really good & in-depth knowledge of Android and Linux kernel. You must see the official CAF work done at Qualcomm, most of it is done by Indians.

So, [MENTION=4844212]Ottonet[/MENTION] trying to contrast the western/northern part with eastern part of the world is kind of illogical. I have seen many people from western parts of the world especially Europe asking silly questions in forums and Telegram.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] mermigas:
Complains... complains complains all the time for updates for every phone maker.

I am in XDA for the knowledge of the future updates, additional features and use of custom Roms.

That’s all

And if you are not satisfied then complain to the maker.

Anyway the stock beta 8.1 is fine and runs with no problems
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] jawadpe:
is it just me or the battery back up just shot up so much after the may update!!! got around 3hrs 30 min and 50 % battery left!!!

any one else getting the same?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ottonet:
I'm not pretending in any way to be right, I was expressing an opinion that a) could be totally mine, unless someone else shows up agreeing with my opinion, b) could simply be wrong.

At any rate, I was not talking about developers community. I carefully choose the term "Xiaomi user community" to separate the many good developers that I know, follow and appreciate from the huge number of users that seem unable to grasp how a OS development takes place. Again, I choose "Grasp" as a verb, knowing that to really "Understand" an Operating System can be hard also for experienced "power users" be they in or outside Europe.

No question is intelligent enough. People has the right of asking silly questions. All in all, it is by asking and receving replies that knowledge builds up. Though, asking silly questions is one thing, to ignore how the device that you paid a significant amount of your salary works leaves me with some unanswered questions, but complaining at the beginning of a month for not receiving that month's update is a totally different thing altogether. I guess that many europeans act the same, just it does not seems so to me, but I admit that it could be a matter of perspective.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] solis_f:
The point I think, we all can agree on is that complaining in XDA forums (which their purpose is totally different) about a device's lack or non-existent software support (which is again subjective) from a company is not going to help anyone and it has come to a point that it is boring and toxic. Wanna complain to a company? Go to that company's website and NOT IN THE INDEPENDENT (NOT BACKED BY THE COMPANY) DEVELOPER FORUMS
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] pvineeth97:
Moreover, this for the people who say we shouldn't complain about OTA updates.

Xiaomi is blatantly claiming "And since Android One users are among the first to get new OS upgrades when they’re released, you’ll have access to the latest features and innovations even sooner.".
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] solis_f:
"Among the first" is not the same as "The first"

"Even sooner" is not the same as "As soon as possible"
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ottonet:
Oreo Adoption rate is 5.7% since May, 9th.

To own a device that represents an absolute minority of installed OS's automatically puts us "among the first" to get the new OS.

And we are there since last January.

Well that means to be "Among the firsts" to me.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] TrueMS:
I am sorry for everyone I offended with this comment. You are right that my comment is BS and I am sorry. It is not Pixel device that gets updates on time with the most of the features. Feel free to criticise me.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] solis_f:
It's not about you. It's about the general complaining attitude shown in these forums, which is not constructive, nor is helpful and definitely not needed.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] pvineeth97:
Still Mi A1 is not among the first to get Oreo 8.1.

Oreo Release Date: August 21, 2017

Expected according to Xiaomi's statement - Jan/Feb 2018, considering Mi A1 was released in September.

Oreo 8.1 is not released yet.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] solis_f:
Android 8.1 was released in December 2017 for Pixel and Nexus devices
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Klasputnikov:
Can admin close threads like this please? Only silly complaining
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] NeoDaemon:
Anyone has a link for the fastbot img from may? TY
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] pvineeth97:
So according to Android One's policy "among the first phones", 8.1 should have been released by January/February.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] taurnilf:
Err, no. Don't take texts out of context just to fit your narrative. And where does it say that Android One's policy "among the first phones"?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] solis_f:
Even if MiA1 gets 8.1 in August it will still be among the first to update to it. A very few phone have updated to 8.1. Anyway I'm out of this conversation, I cannot guide someone who doesn't want to see.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] denisval:
I've posted these a couple of pages ago but will repeat them for you. These are the guidelines which an Android One device should follow:

source: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=en

This means that we are getting more than we should. We already had our major update and are promised P in the future. Also it clearly states that the timing of the updates will be according to the company's possibilities. They don't have to give it to you the next day. They are also covered for incremental updates because they have two weeks to actually roll out an update. Aside from that we need to get 18 months of software support (to early to tell), at least one major update (which we got) and several smaller security updates (which we got every single month so far).

Xiaomi is in no way failing the Android One promise so far and these discussions are pure and utter nonsense. Someone should close this thread and delete it so that it can make place for more informative information :)
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] faffu41:
Threads like this are just useless and annoying, may update increased of a lot battery life, just stop complaining over and over for the same things... U don't want 8.0? Plenty of custom ROMs. U want more battery life? Plenty of stock compatible Kernel's. Just stop complaining, is hideously annoying.

CLOSE THREAD.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] pvineeth97:
Custom ROMs lack security. So no Custom ROMs...

Read CopperHeadOS tweets: https://twitter.com/CopperheadOS
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] atttoush:
Not to rain on your parade bro, but the Nokia 5 was released with nougat last year before the Xiaomi Mi A1, and it has been updated to 8.1 more than a month ago.

Just saying.

I hate it when people lose their objectivity in favor of being a sheep fanboy. Comparing our Mi A1 to less competent phones like samsung is not a good approach, we have to hold Xiaomi to their promises, like people holding Nokia to theirs. Criticism is the best.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] freekarol:
My battery is ok after this update.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] taurnilf:
Okay, just to be clear, exactly what did xiaomi promise with the mi a1 that they weren't able to do?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] denisval:
Not to rain on your parade bro, but what promises did Xiaomi actually make that it didn't live up to? As far as I can tell the Mi A1 is living up to every Android One guideline and then some. You have nothing to complain about. Go outside, enjoy life and stop these useless discussions. Your arguments are baseless and purely subjective because "you feel Xiaomi should do better". They don't.

(Not a fanboy, this is my first Xiaomi phone and I'm well impressed with it, especially at its price point.)
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] solis_f:
Also nokia 5 is not a very a good example and a less competent phone overall. More expensive, less capable hardware. Oh and I almost forgot: Nokia has locked bootloaders and ABSOLUTELY ZERO kernel sources released. Xiaomi is doing a great job here compared to Nokia

Also, if someone here was a Xiaomi fanboy don't you think we would have got a MIUI phone? We are here for Android One and not Xiaomi. Xiaomi just happened to be the OEM to do it first
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] bira_:
As we all own mi A1, and know it's flaws and strengths, we better discuss meaningful issues like what happened after may update?, Is it worth do the update or be in April or March update, what gained and what lost like that. XDA forum deserves such discussion and not silly arguments to the OEM and device.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] bertone_x19:
May-feeling

The May update gave me my first non-intended reboot...
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wired Life:
anyone from germany received the may update?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Absynth30:
i got the update 3 days ago. I can only tell the batter slightly improved.

I also hoped for 8.1 but i think i must wait a little bit. The only reason i want 8.1 is because i am hoping to have VoLTE and WiFi call fixed finally (as beta users reported to work fine)
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] ZeldaWW:
I got the update message, but i did no want to risk flashing it until i know this:

IS BATTERY REALLY FIXED? or how much improvement do you see?

I have other 3000mah phones were the battery last a lot more than xiaomi.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] taurnilf:
I easily get 8 to 9 hrs SOT since i bought the phone last dec. Battery has never been a problem for me.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] demencia89:
8, 9 SOT? I honestly can't believe you. It's been hard to believe myself when I see my phone has been withouth charge the whole weekend with 4 hours SOT. I've reached 6 SoT with 1 day and 15 hours. But never even close to 8 or 9.

[IMG="SoT"]https://imgur.com/FhxI3r4[/IMG]
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] henk_j:
With Franco kernel and with forcedoze with conservative and cfq i can play all day . :)
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wired Life:
now i hate xiaomi and myself...

after may update i must unlock bootloader before root and now everything is lost...

before the update i did the bootloader unlock many times without data loss

because of that i dont have any backup

f*** it!

is there a way to unlock bootloader without data loss? for future updates...
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmed Kassem:
Apply the OTA with an unlocked bootloader.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wired Life:
But after that the bootloader is locked again so i must unlock it?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmed Kassem:
No, if you apply the OTA with an unlocked bootloader you will end with an updated version with unlocked bootloader. Just did that with May update.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] taurnilf:
Believe.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] cherryb8844:
???? agreed. My friend have Moto g5s plus and still using nougat. I'm very satisfied with Xiaomi's work. Thumb up for my choice.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] N1ck474:
Yes

Same for Moto G5s

7 Months ago=Nougat

Today=Nougat with September security patches.

Or Huawei Mate 10 Pro, a 600€ flagship=Android 8.0 still on March update..

At least xiaomi is up to date every month
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] roshan2989:
Yes bro agree with you,at least we getting monthly update..Some of the users are crying for 8.1 update in xioami forum.:D
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] JockeSve:
And withing 24 hrs after release of 8.1 same people will start crying/whining about 9.0. :rolleyes:

- (Because Brand X / Model Y already got it! )

That's same a**h**es that start threads here over and over again whining about same thing.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ritik99:
Nougat with April Patch, AFAIK.

Oreo isn't coming, as it requires 64 bit OS, and Moto has 32bit. It's promised to them and will come if Moto finds a way to do it.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] N1ck474:
Moto G5s have a 64bit SoC, not 32bit.

where's the problem?

64bit will be activated with the Oreo update.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] da.diazt:
I have root I try to install the update of May, uninstalling magisk to later return to realize the root, but it continues giving me error, what can I do?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] rkunaal:
today i received the update but i'm already on May security patch
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] taurnilf:
Done installing. Wonder if there are new changes or this is just a preparatory update for 8.1.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] N1ck474:
No fixes for me, GPS Fix still broken like First May update.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] BtB:
Got it too. Still 8.0, May 5 patch. Version is now 9.5.13 (from 9.5.11). I hope too it's preparatory to 8.1, some say they start to get stable 8.1....
[Moto E4 Themes, Apps, and Mods] zendude:
If you find the maximum volume level too low in Lineage 14.1 , here are the steps to replace the configuration file, mixer_paths.xml, as root.

- Download the attached file, mixer_paths-moto-e4-lineage-14.1-new.xml, to your internal storage, /sdcard.

- Execute the following commands from terminal or adb shell.

mount -o rw,remount /system

cd /system/etc

# make backup of the original xml just in case

mv mixer_paths.xml /sdcard/mixer_paths.xml-0

# assuming you downloaded the new xml in internal storage, /sdcard

cp -av /sdcard/mixer_paths-moto-e4-lineage-14.1-new.xml mixer_paths.xml

chmod 644 mixer_paths.xml

cd /

sync
​

- Restart your phone for the new settings to take effect.

If you need to revert to the original settings, you can use the attached original xml and apply the same procedure as above.

This method is based on Moto G4 Native volume boost by hp420.

As always, proceed with caution when you are root.

​
[Moto E4 Themes, Apps, and Mods] skullkid383:
Couldn't u just replace mixer_paths.XML in systems/etc of course u would have to rename it tho
[Moto E4 Themes, Apps, and Mods] zendude:
Yes. Some people might prefer using a file manager with root access to achieve the same result if they are more comfortable with gui over command line shell.
[Moto E4 Themes, Apps, and Mods] b@dv3g3t@bl3s:
Will it work on Stock by any chance?
[Moto E4 Themes, Apps, and Mods] mn1968:
Yes
[Moto E4 Themes, Apps, and Mods] b@dv3g3t@bl3s:
Awesome! Thanks!
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] n.pikota:
Oneplus 6 is there. I'm thinking of upgrading from my Huawei mate 9 to oneplus 6. I get tired of the little development of the Huawei community. Someone else goes to oneplus 6?
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vankata1:
I dont believe the OP6 is on sale yet. Still I have decided to buy one as well. The mate 9 is great and all but I still can't get used to the UI and the development for this phone is pretty much absent.
[Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] p51d007:
Nope. Out of the box, they have way too many bugs, customer service is terrible.

In about a month or two after release, their phones aren't too bad, but, I don't like being

a beta tester. I've had 3 Huawei Phones. Mate 2,8,9. Out of the box, all have been perfect.

Plus, Oppo's cheaper cousin was suppose to be "less expensive" than all the other flagships.

They started out with a basic phone, good specs, low price. But, with each version they have

jacked up the price, and made them like every other overpriced flagship, "stylish, slim, colorful

& bla bla bla" Glass on the back? Why? Most people will put a case over it, to make sure it

doesn't break.

Nope, I don't go for Oppo's OnePlus with all their viral marketing BS.