[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Apo11on:
You really don't know when to give up, huh?...... OK then! You shouldn't let your mouth write checks your ass can't cash - SHOW ME a market analytics research from credible source, where it says the percentage of android users, who want freedom of carrier restrictions, such as locked bootloaders, lack of root access, pre-loaded unremovable bloatware, carrier network lock, etc. is 0.01% of all android users. Don't talk - SHOW ME at least one credible source. You're lucky this is not a court room, because the technical term of what you're doing is "talking out of your ass" and making unsubstantiated claims would have gotten you nothing but sanctions in court.

What a consumer wants means "nothing"?! You know, just to pull you off that high horse of wisdom and "almost 20 years" of seniority - I have been working as an engineer in IT for longer than that, and contrary to what you think - you're not wiser or more senior than people you are conversing with. I've seen my fair share of startups putting investors in the room, as well as bigger companies and there is always one main, primary goal behind any such meeting - to gauge consumers interest and listen to what's important to investors and consumers, in order to create product they would actually want to buy. Saying what I, or other android users want means "nothing", is well....at least very unwise marketing strategy, you'd be the first to go to the market with.

Contrary to your outdated opinion, the market percentage of users, who want freedom of manufacturer restrictions on their devices, as described above, is much higher than you think. You're overlooking the fact, it's no longer the '90s and mobile technology, and computers in general have been around for decades now. First Windows has been released over 30 years ago, and what it means is that unlike before, a lot of people in their 40s and 50s are tech savvy and tech conscious now and understand what manufacturer/carrier restrictions mean and how much better off product are without them.

You also have some legal misconceptions re: leasing vs owning, regarding software on our devices, which I won't bother refuting here, because it's too long and it's a whole separate conversation. However, I will advise you go carefully read Android licenses, ToS, GNU and GPL3 on the devices you own or can get your hands on. If you still have questions whether you own or lease software on your devices - it's best to consult legal professional first, before posting publicly embarrassing comments like the one you did.

For last, but not least I will address this comment of yours "Dont bring desktop pc into this as the 32bit version come with locked bootloaders and with the new bios all OS need a MS signature". Bad English aside, 32bit versions of any OS represent very small fraction of the market nowadays, so besides the fact you're wrong even about those - even if you were right, that small size sample is not indicative of the big picture, whether or not manufacturers lock down personal computers, or how secure that makes them. I don't know what BIOS or which MS signatures you're talking about, but being Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer myself (among other things) I can tell you there are NO UNREMOVABLE RESTRICTIONS WHATSOEVER on any Microsoft OS released to date. No BIOS version will prevent users from installing/flashing custom made or stock modified/patched versions of OS, No BIOS or OS version will prevent a user from installing unsigned application on their PC. Same goes for drivers, although I will admit starting Windows 8.1 the ability to install unsigned drivers is no longer default setting, and needs to be expressly turned on. However, once it is turned on - the user can also install any unsigned drivers on a PC. Therefore, my previous point that devices with not locked "bootloaders" (BIOS) and full administrative access given to users (root) do just fine security wise, if they are managed properly, stands.