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[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) Questions & Answers] parveshchaudhary:
1. Downgrade Google Play Services (Remove app from device administrators and use link2sd to uninstall)

2. Force Stop and Clear Data for Tez and Play Store

3. In Magisk hide Tez, PlayStore and Google Services Framework, Google Services Library

4. Pass the SafetyNet in Magisk

5. Reboot to get the device certified in Google Play Store

Now the App should work fine.

Worked on AEX 5.4
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) Questions & Answers] Haider**:
I am on bootlegger rom .
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) Questions & Answers] aayushrrverma:
I was facing same issue . i downloaded tez , then magisk app and magisk hide tez app .

Now long press tez icon press "i" button on top or click on app info , click on storage clear data ,clear cache , now open tez it worked for me in jaguar and pixel .
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] bidav1:
hello i have a huge battery drain with google play services.

i tried erasing cache partition, removed google account from device, cleared app cache, erased all recently installed apps etc

nothing helps. i did not try hard reset.

photo is attached, thank you guys for the help
[General Questions and Answers] chop_tomatoe:
i was thinking about buying this phone for my mom.

she needs it for basic tasks such as whatsapp.

does stock software has alots of bloat?

is battery life good?

is there any rom that is bloat free and easy on battery?

is it easy to unlock bootloader and flash custom rom?

any thoughts?
[General Questions and Answers] LinuxPanda:
lots of bloat IMO

battery life is good

All custom ROM are bloat free. Remember no volte on custom ROM for MTK devices.

Bootloader can't be unlocked. You need to flash TWRP using sp flash tool.

Stay away from moto c series phones. Why? I got moto c plus and the kernel source is a mess.
[General Questions and Answers] chop_tomatoe:
already bought it, will i be able to install lineage 14.1 on it?

i would be happy with that.
[General Questions and Answers] LinuxPanda:
Yes, just check respective section. :)
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Icculus760:
Any idea how you'd power off the device if the system freezes? Normally I'd hold down the power button or remove the battery, but there's technically no power BUTTON and obviously no removable battery. How do you reboot the phone if the "hardware keys" don't respond?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
It's a touch sensitive button that translates commands just like a mechanical button would translate such commands within the U11. As a matter of fact it is pressure sensitive in order to make possible it always reacts to your commands.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] hitmanhunt:
As I wrote on another threat. I'm really impressed with metal frame with no weak spots because no physical buttons. After all, I really like this new phone!

BTW haptic feedback is here also while phone is discharged.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
As far as I tested it, there is a slight haptic feedback even though the phone is off, when powering it up. Thus I'd guess the power manager takes care that there'll always be enough juice left in the battery to give us such a feedback. By the way you can deactivte this feedback in settings completely, once you got familiar to the new digital buttons.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Mario1337:
Did you try the face unlock and the fingerprint scanner? Any delay? As you own the HTC u11, what about HTCs software updates? Thank you!
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] techlogik:
Impressed...only thing I would like out of them is a OLED display. Otherwise, will probably get rid of my bulky Pixel 2 XL and switch to this phone. Bootloader Unlocking, rooting/modding/Dev support have always been fantastic with HTC phones...and I can use it on Verizon!!
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Yes I did. Face Unlock needs a little delay as they recognize the depths of your face and eyes to make it more secure and to make sure one can't trick it with a picture of yours. Fingerprint is really fast. Didn't recognize any delay when trying it out. Nearly on pat with the brilliant technology of Huawei's fingerprint scanner I'd say.

Well that's an arguable one. For me personally I'll always prefer an LCD over an OLED, as OLED stolill suffers of burn it's and the LEDs are getting dimmer in time, due to manufacturers running them to bright for such an organic material.

in fact HTC switched back from Gorilla.Glass 5 to Gorilla Glass 3 which is, on the one hand much sturdier, and on the other hand allows for more brightness of the display. Held the Pixel 2XL once and holding my U11 currently. Both are bulkier in hand, as HTC got ergonomics on the U12+ right in any way.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] hitmanhunt:
Really Corning Gorilla Glass 3? As I saw pre-production piece, I can't check it well. I see htc.com has no informations about version of GG. Interesting! Anyway good to know!
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] simplex19:
https://www.androidauthority.com/htc-u12-plus-colors-868077/
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] techlogik:
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Features like AOD I really like, I know there are apps like Glance Plus, but they put little drain on the battery and I find useful with OLED. But I've also used other apps to do the same thing with LED displays on the HTC/LCD displays in the past, so I can live without OLED/AOD and have ways to give notifications/info without a pre-cooked option in a Rom. I've had my Pixel 2 XL for 3 months now, AOD always in use, there is no burn-in....Google fixed these issues assuming you don't have it in Torch mode always and activity randomly on the display. Putting it face down turns it off as well as a preventive measure at night. OLED are better in every way, except a possible burn in issue when it comes to color/black reproduction.

Anyway, you say you have held the U12+ and feels better in the hand compared to the Pixel 2 XL? By the thinner top/bottom and sides, and with the right case...that makes sense. This is what I loved about my OP 5T...but I switched to verizon...and now I'm stuck with limited options for Android and flagship level phones that allow a modding experience. This is just another option now on the market for VZW users.

Thanks
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Myrmeko:
So... How do you enter the bootloader menu or download mode.

Can you still hold pwr+vol.dwn for download mode and pwr+vol.dwn+vol.up for bootloader?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Still the same way as always. Mechanical buttons convert the pressure into digital signals as well, so the chip knows what to do since a long time. Only difference now: no translator needed any longer.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] evilevn:
Do we know if wifi calling works on verizon yet? I know with the U11 it was not supported on verizon specifically.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Sorry man can't tell you as I'm from Germany and only had chance to test the EMEA variant right here.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] AndroidPurity:
I was actually going to make an entire thread on these "buttons" until I saw your post. I was going to pull the trigger on buying the U12+ as soon as the phone was available for pre-order, ever since I saw the leaked spec sheet. The spec sheet makes this seem like a dream phone!

However my feelings changed when I saw these "buttons" were not really buttons, only touch sensitive bumps. My immediate concern was how awkward these "buttons" would feel. Then I grew even a bigger concern of how rebooting will work if it's frozen.

You say it will work when the OS frozen, but that doesn't seem to make sense to me. Think about it. The touch screen of phones does not work when phone is frozen. So why would touch buttons be any different? I imagine some where in the phone there has to be software that says "hey we been touched, send the signal to the OS to reboot."

For example laptops have completely separate software for the BIOS on a separate drive, so it still functions if the OS freezes. I'd imagine the U12+ "buttons" would have to be setup internally kind of like BIOS on a computer to work when the phone is frozen. It would need to be separate software to ensure it works when the main software is frozen.

So I am sorry but I think we need to get this concern addressed by an HTC engineer or at least an HTC representative. I have already emailed HTC about this issue but still waiting to hear back.

With that in mind I would like to know. How do the "buttons" feel? Isn't it awkward trying to push in something that doesn't move? Also what's the haptic feedback like? Does it vibrate the entire phone equally, or vibrate just that area near the button? How long did you have with the phone to play around with those "buttons?"
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
OK first things first. Those buttons got a separate circuitry as they always had, to make them work even thought the system is frozen.

There is a firmware layer - as its Linux based an separate partition actually - for the buttons. As you might find out if reading up on Linux based systems the firmware layers are a little bit different from the system, and connects the aboot/download mode to the OS. This is the exact same way its working on any laptop running Linux, macOS, or Windows.

So technically nothing to worry.

If it cames to the feel, let me say the following. If you "press" the "buttons", the phone gives a short buzz from the vibration motor as a feedback. You have to get accustomed to that, but can deactivate the haptic feedback completely in settings.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] AndroidPurity:
Perfect timing! I was just coming to update my post because I found out that Apple changed their iPhone home button to only be touch starting in the 7, also in the 8. Interesting I never knew that as a Android user.

Apples soft reset was always home and power buttons held together. But when they changed the home button to be touch only, then they changed the soft reset to be home and volume down buttons. If touch button will work for resetting a frozen phone then why did Apple change theirs when they went to a touch haptic button?

I understand what firmware, and separate partions, and all that stuff is. Except based off what I just found out Apple did with the 7 and 8 I'm still sleptical. Still waiting for HTCs response to my email about this. No offense, I just want their confirmation on this particular issue since no manufacturer has ever done this before with these buttons.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Maybe they just didn't want it to work the old way, or the iOS structure didn't allow for the same to work as on Android. Remember that iOS uses force touch as well and integrated it in a completely different way than Android did. I never understood Apple as there are many thing as well in iOS don't making any sense in his they've been implemented and are working nowadays.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] puneet724:
I was really hoping they would use oled screen.. but still lcd :(
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] AndroidPurity:
After having 3 phones with AMOLED displays I prefer the LCD display. LCD displays aren't the same they were a couple years. Over the past 1-2 years the technology has significantly improved. I prefer the LCD now because....

1.) With LCD there is never ever any burn in. Not even after 2 or 3 years of use.

2.) LCD display colors do not start to fade and lose their vibrant colors over time like AMOLED.

3.) LCD display technology has significantly improved to have colors about as vibrant and saturated as AMOLED. But without ever losing their color.

If you take a really good LCD display like from the HTC U12+ or from LG G7 or from Sony XZ2 and put it side by side with a really good AMOLED display, you won't see much more difference. The new super LCD displays are just about as vibrant now, without looking unrealistic colors from being too saturated.

Don't get me wrong I think AMOLED displays look great, but I'd rather have a display that is just about as vibrant and stays that way forever, instead a AMOLED display that will become less and less vibrant over time.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tal_sarid:
How's the max birghtness of U12+ compared to the U11?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] pantsoftime:
There are chips on the market that can be used to detect touch and convert it into a digital signal the same way a button does. I'm sure there are several devices in your house that use this.

In this case the phone firmware has nothing to do with how a touch button translates into a signal to the processor (vs a switch/mechanical button). The firmware does have an impact on what happens once the processor actually receives this signal.

Apple's home button has many functions and it's likely they needed a more sophisticated chip to interpret interactions. When you have a sophisticated circuit (with a microprocessor) you never want to rely on it for a fundamental function like reset. When they had a mechanical button they could even have 2 circuits in parallel to maintain the reset function if needed but that possibility went away when switching to a touch button. They're also incredibly sensitive to BOM cost so adding any circuits is kind of a big deal for them. Look at how little DRAM they use as an example. They would rather pay engineers to invent insane memory management functions than to spend an extra 3 bucks per phone to double the RAM.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
U11 is way ahead of the u11+ and u12+. But due to gg3, it is much easier to see something in direct sunlight, than it used to be with the u11+
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
You really want to discuss how the different sensor technologys work and how Linux works with a technician mate. Stop it. No need to discuss such a thing in this respective thread.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tal_sarid:
Is this a speculation or a personal experience with the device?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Personal experience. The OP and I were at the same pre-briefing/event.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tal_sarid:
Well, if the U12+ has worst visibility on direct sunlight than the U11 it will be a shame for HTC. It's really frustrating to see the display outside even on the U11. :(
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
On the u11? The u11 and any AMOLED devices are even too bright for me. The u12+ has a perfect screen for me, even the u11+ is good enough. Brightness is usually on any device, doesn't matter if sunny outside or not, max on 50/60% brightness. But I really suggest you to try it once it starts selling. And don't know how it is in your country in Germany we can order and try stuff and send back within two weeks. So if someone doesn't like that device or anything else he is always able to send it back and get back money
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tal_sarid:
That's really not my case.

In my country most of the phones are barely visible outside and the bare minimum is about 500 nits to see something especially on summer.

I don't need high max brightness indoors but I need to option to boost the brightness all the way up when needed.

The normal U11 is even too dim to my taste when outside.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
You can't use sunglasses?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tal_sarid:
Well, the sun is really powerful in the middle-east.

I always use sunglasses outside in the summer and it doesn't help, the reflections is not the main issue but the picture on screen just looks really really black even on the highest brightness when outside.

Samsung devices are very popular here because they don't suffer from it at all, the max brightness is really high and it is fine to use outside. But you know, it's Samsung and the software experience is really bad to my taste...

Moreover, there is no such thing "too bright" display, you can just lower it down as much as you like but the other way around is impossible when max brightness is too dim for all uses.

I really hope that you are wrong and the display is much brighter than the U11+...
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
5-10% brighter. Screen is almost same, just different glass used and calibration is slightly different, at least how I could test it in person with another u11 and u11+
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] SlyUK:
Whichever phone I purchase in Q4 2018 I will keep for 3 years :), in this respect:

How will the HTC U12+ be regards to security and software updates from HTC and can I expect Android P, Q and R especially as it comes with Project Treble out of the box ?

In terms of the custom rom scene I am fully aware that Team Venom won't be bringing their Venom Rom to the device.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] samteeee:
This year outside of the upcoming Pixel 3, I think HTC U12+ is the best smartphone from innovation, build quality

and sound stand point, IMHO.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] puneet724:
Amoled screen are bayter friendly too if you are using black background
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
There is a guarantee for Android P. Everything else is still discussed if it comes to updates. Hope I'll get more information on it soon.

Regarding Custom ROMs there's the AOSP treble ROM by phhusson under development for all treble enabled devices and if Lee can afford the phone, we can be sure LeeDrOiD will be there as well.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] SlyUK:
Thanks, if I get this phone shall be using it for quite a while.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] idees:
how is the brightness of the display? Is it as u11+ ?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Brighter. And better to look at with sun glasses, than my U11.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] idees:
If it's brighter than u11, which was brighter than u11+, that's very good :good:
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
It's brighter than U11+, a little dimmer than U11, but also less reflective which makes it easier to read it in sunlight.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] idees:
oh, so brightness is something like: u11+ < u12+ <u11
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Yes at least regarding my U11 and the U11+ of a friend of mine.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] pantsoftime:
The point was meant to be about how it's easily possible for touch buttons and mechanical buttons to have the same function for reboots and resets in the event of a crash or lockup. There seems to be a lot of concern that the touch buttons won't work the same on the u12+ vs previous generation phones.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
They basically use the edge sense technology. But let me ask you a question: did you ever bother to open an HTC 10 and take a look of how the "mechanical" buttons worked back then?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] desiregeek:
Did it come with Facebook Pre-Installed on it with no uninstall option..? How loud were the speakers on it compared to other phones like the Pixel 2 XL?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Could only compare it to my U11 in loudness. And it was much louder. Would say by 30-40% at least.

As for Facebook I got to admit, that I didn't look for that one actually.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Just a short heads-up. I'll receive a retail review unit soon. Thus I'll be able to share more details and answer more questions on the new flagship. Will post an update here, as soon as I got it. Stay tuned.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Daimon-xda:
Is the U12+ will have the polarity of the screen vertically , horizontally or in bias.

Cause I've got Polarized Sunglasses and with the 10 and his horizontal polarized screen I see nothing with my sunglasses :eek:
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
I have polarized sunglasses as well. Will make sure as soon as I get the device. But I tested with my sunglasses on the pre-briefing of the U12+ in direkt sunlight and didn't have any problems - as I had as well on the 10.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
Any idea if the feedback given when you use the pseudo buttons is haptic ala Apple or just a vibrator motor? In other words, did HTC actually make their own linear actuator (like Apple's Taptic Engine) or is it just an annoying, angry weighted motor buzzing like almost every Android phone on the planet?

I realize that this is a silly question, but the Taptic Engine feels luxurious compared to a buzzer, lol.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Got to check this as well. Didn't feel like the normal buzz by a vibrator motor.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] hitmanhunt:
Agree. The haptic feedback feels more like... heart beat or something, than vibrator. Must say I'm still surprised after I press it. :D
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
That really sounds like more a linear actuator than (Apple's Taptic Engine), based on my experiences with them. You guys are really making it hard not to drop almost $1000 USD on one. :laugh:

I keep telling myself to wait to see what is announced at WWDC but...

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That drove me nuts when I had my 10.

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Will the U12+/Edge Sense 2 still support HTC's theme engine?

While I know this will likely become a moot point come Android P, there was a set of home buttons that I loved that HTC did when they released the M9.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Edge Sense 2.o won't, as this is just an extra functionality. But HTC Sense 10GP on the U12+ still has the Themes App and thus supports HTC Themes engine, including the lower navigation bar I'd guess.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
I think I get what you're saying. Edge Sense is just extra functionality baked into HTC's Sense skin/launcher. Right?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LeeDroid:
Getting excited by some of these posts... Need to get mine ordered asap! :cool:
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DaConcho:
Edge sense is the side squeeze functionality on the U11, U11+ and now U12+. It can be set up to trigger any shortcuts you want it to do or to launch any apps. Think of it as an extra button to trigger actions. What you were essentially asking was if the power button is themed with the HTC theme engine.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
I guess it was due to semantics. I don't see Sense being referred to anywhere as a separate entity from Edge Sense, so I assumed that was the name HTC was referring to their skin as nowadays. I definitely wasn't asking if a physical button could be themed, lol.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DaConcho:
Lol definitely. HTC Sense is the software skin, which will still have the theme engine in it. Edge sense is the side squeeze functionality. That is just why your question came across as a little strange! lol
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
You mean some like these :)
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] decodertje:
Very Nice. cant wait for my HTC blue U12+ dual sim .

:svetius:
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
Is the rectangular object nearest the finger print reader not aligned properly? Compared to the official HTC glamour shots on the site, it looks like it's shifted upward and is at an angle.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
It's been a demo unit for preview purposes, so might be the case, yes.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
That's a little concerning. :eek:
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
It's glued to the glass. Nothing to concern me in any way.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] techlogik:
And another problem with LCD compared to OLED, put some polarized glasses on, and bye-bye screen...you can't view it any longer.

Glad I have a $450 pair of Oakley RX sunglasses that are rendered unusable with my new LCD phone...where my OLED doesn't have that issue.