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[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Of course I can. Generally, I optimize a lot for MediaTek chips as well and I don't want to exclude the owners of these devices (they already have been excluded by years of CAF release).

The main reason is because lot of low-end devices are using these chips.

- When you compare SWE/Tuga/etc, do they feel faster than Kiwi ?

- If yes, do you have example of a device and website where the other browser is faster ? :D

Faster is better, so if you find, tell me, so I can profile the CPU/GPU usage :highfive:
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Everyone,

There is a release to do, and there is a choice to make to change a default setting, and I want to involve the community.

Tomorrow I am going to release the updated night mode (which solves lot of night issues), and we need to pick the default contrast.

You can change it in the settings, but it's the default for many users (there are 5,000 daily users).

Currently the default is 95% contrast

95:

99:

AMOLED black (pixels actually turned off):

One remark about AMOLED mode:

It saves lot of battery, and is very comfy for the eyes (less light reaching your eyes), but there is a "ghosting" effect when you scroll. I hated it the first minutes, but now is my favourite.

I'm afraid it could scare users believing it's a bug (it's really disturbing).

To understand what I mean, you can try on Arstechnica under very low light, or Reddit (black theme) and scroll fast.

This is because the pixels are turned off, and takes few milliseconds to turn on again.

Which contrast do you think should be the default when enabling Night Mode ?

Note: I am asking people from Play Store as well (by email) so don't feel offended if your choice is not taken, I take the + and - from everyone.

EDIT: Fixed preview links
[Android Apps and Games] Ayman ae:
Turn them pixels off

Your browser is lightweight and efficient you should go all the way.
[Android Apps and Games] b.roid:
AMOLED! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] _DarkKnight_:
99% is the best wiev :highfive:
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Results so far:
[Android Apps and Games] b.roid:
wow! even though I prefer amoled I'm just happy to have night mode back in chromium :good:

I really like how you are using user feedback to develop this. very cool :cool:
[Android Apps and Games] robotkoer:
My two cents: if you add a feature that's *purely visual*, *configurable* and *off by default*, it doesn't matter what the default is, as long as the option is there. Simply pick the option you like the best as default and show a toast on first launch of the feature that you can configure it _there and there_.
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
True. I will add the toast, thanks :)
[Android Apps and Games] narco14:
Salut Arnaud pense tu que c'est possible d'importer les favoris de chrome bêta dans kiwi ou pas ?
[Android Apps and Games] bagajohny:
What is advantage of CAF based browser?
[Android Apps and Games] Tilman:
Don't know if this has been reported before, but there seems to be a bug with most visited pages. on the home screen, like if my most visited page is xdaforums.com/lg-g6, on the most visited pages it only shows up xdaforums.com, it doesn't direct to the forum page, just the home page, checked it with other few sites as well, it just directs to the homepage of the website, & not the actual sub link.
[Android Apps and Games] abacate123:
Optimized to Snapdragon, afaik.
[Android Apps and Games] SynthBpm:
CAF itself doesn't do any development anymore, and hasn't for a while, so I'm assuming most of the CAF optimizations aren't really applicable anymore. things like their use of Qualcomm's version of LLVM might still be useful though.

one thing I'm most hype for is to have an up-to-date chromium fork with adblock and the bar on the bottom. I am just so hype for the bottom bar.
[Android Apps and Games] :
Off topic - Correction Solus Budgie is best thing to happen
[Android Apps and Games] KernelCorn:
I love this app! After the Ghostery update FAIL, I'm pleasantly surprised by how fast this app is. Does everything I need plus some. The bottom toolbar is awesome too! Excellent job with this browser.

I can't wait to see what future updates bring!
[Android Apps and Games] matrixisreal:
1 Password manager (sadly you have to have Pie for integration in browser, so for now copy&paste)

2 there are times where this is better, but most of the time I would want it to open in background for later reading

3 you can do it with #simplified-ntp in chrome://flags

4 better, remove the news from the app, and use 3rd parties apps for news

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BTW is there a chrome flag to enable displaying tabs in the recents like in KitKat times ?
[Android Apps and Games] matrixisreal:
why does kiwi appear 2x as a browser app?
[Android Apps and Games] choukajohn:
1. I'm already using Keepass but it is always a problem with all these passwords manager to detect the fields.

2. Taste and colors... I think this is not a bad idea to add this as an option

3. Nice thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] waldis2:
Please add the option to turn off Materail Design (rounded corners) and favicons in address string.

It would be great.
[Android Apps and Games] Gero71:
Chrome and Brave does also, nothing to worrie about.
[Android Apps and Games] csagan5:
Hi [MENTION=9196003]arnaud42[/MENTION],

since this version of yours was released after Bromite's 68.0.3440.87 on 3rd August, I think perhaps you used Bromite's patches for the import/export functionality?

In that case - both for fairness and to comply GPL v3 license, but mostly for fairness - would you please release the patches for Kiwi? So that improvements can go back to the original project (that's why I am releasing the patches as well).

I never managed to add a better UI interaction for the import/export e.g. a notification for example, did you perhaps add that?

Thanks! :)
[Android Apps and Games] Tomatot-:
Hi [MENTION=9196003]arnaud42[/MENTION]

I was wondering, to improve the user experience, could you add an option to have a new tab button always available right next to the tabs one (so on the right side of the screen, bottom or top depending on where is the toolbar). I think it would save us a lot of time instead of pressing "tabs" then to far to the left to click on new tab. Also, the new tab button right now is at the bottom left, which is very hard to reach with one hand. So my idea would be both faster and more comfortable.

I don't know much about coding but it doesn't sound that hard to integrate and I'm sure a lot of people would like it. It would be closer to a full desktop experience.

Thank you anyway for your work, again. :)
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
You can just hold the tabs button down to open a new tab.

I agree about moving the "+" button over though, it is a stretch on big phones.
[Android Apps and Games] Tomatot-:
I didn't know that, my bad! Thanks a lot for the tip. :)
[Android Apps and Games] Emu:
That's an excellent trick! What would also be cool would be to swipe the omnibar just like tab switching is implemented already but it would create a new tab if there is none on the right side.

I would love to be able to move tabs by pressing and holding them in horizontal tab switcher. I'm still sad Chrome removed the option to show tabs in recent apps. If anyone knows how to re-enable this old feature please tell me.
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
I like the sound of that, i never knew it was an option.
[Android Apps and Games] kvevand63:
WOW!! Just installed your Watermelon Dev Pre-release and IMHO, huge difference in night mode. Contrast set to 100.The websites that I had trouble with in night mode are now crystal clear with no washed out text. BTW, thank you for night mode applying to the drop down menu. Huge improvement, great job!!
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Thanks, I'll finish it tomorrow I guess so if there is anything you want to be changed there let me know ;)
[Android Apps and Games] kvevand63:
You are welcome. There are 2 items that I would like to point out: In simplified NTP view (#simplified-ntp in chrome flags), the bookmarks and downloads buttons under the search bar are not visible. Secondly, in the drop down menu box the 2 buttons on either side of the bookmark 'star' symbol are not visible. Both in night mode only. Otherwise, fantastic.
[Android Apps and Games] Pourush Sharan Bhargav:
Unable to see the screenshots posted on xda developers using kiwi. The image could not be loaded message arrives whenever try to open a screenshot
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
Please ! Make news on the homepage relevant to country.

I am fed up reading headlines about American football (rugby with body armour ) and baseball ( rounders with an oversized bat ).

I live in the UK and want to read about real football ( u know, where you kick a "ball" with your "foot" ) :D
[Android Apps and Games] :
I remember something about news is related to a parrticular server that Kiwi fetches news from.
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
This week I'll try to work on the homepage, we can look together what kind of feed to use (one idea was to use reddit, which is really not bad)
[Android Apps and Games] :
That's a good idea, using reddit myself:good:
[Android Apps and Games] mirallasadams12:
Hi. I want to suggest the feature in which you can click on the search tab and select a search engine you prefer before entering your search. this feature is on Samsung internet browser and it makes it easier to use your preferred search engine rather than having to go to settings then clicking on your preferred search engines which by the way I think after clearing my browser history all the manual search engines are gone except Google which I don't like. here is a screenshot of the feature I'm suggesting.
[Android Apps and Games] :
That seems like a good idea :good:

Can you pull data from Google News if its possible?
[Android Apps and Games] andrepgaspar:
+1 for Reddit, that would be enough for me
[Android Apps and Games] matrixisreal:
I am still on the camp of removing the suggested articles completely. Making the browser no frills working machine . but if the feature itself is not that heavy, then I guess its OK to leave it. But if it lightens up kiwi by a significant bit, I would be for removing
[Android Apps and Games] xmiseggs:
I use feedly as a news feed
[Android Apps and Games] joakimbo:
I don't know if this is a phone related issue or if it's the browser, but when I Google something in the browser and push a reddit link it opens sync for reddit, but doesn't open the link, just the app with the last subreddit I visited.

I need to go in to recents and back in to reddit app, then the reddit thread or subreddit shows. Anyone else got this? I'm on the oneplus 6 open beta 5 btw

Edit: I tried with Chrome as well. Issue stil persists, so it's likely a software issue in the oneplus beta
[Android Apps and Games] :
Or maybe how the app handles external links. Notify the Reddit dev and report the bug?
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Hello,

Welcome to a new release of Kiwi Browser. Yes, for that time, I am earlier than the planned date :highfive:

The night mode is really better in my opinion :victory:

The APK is now targeting API Level 28 (Android P).

Version Watermelon (October 23, 2018)

Good news! New release is already here, with Night Mode 2.0!

Thanks to the Kiwi community and contributors

[+] Added Japanese, Portuguese (Brazil), Russian, Turkish, Vietnamese

[+] Significant improvements to Night Mode

[+] Better compatibility with Android P

[+] Much better filter against intrusive ads

[+] Resolved issue with reCAPTCHA

Pro-tip: in Settings, Accessibility you can choose the Contrast level.

Already available in XDA Labs, progressively deployed on the Play Store.

Next release +/- 12th Nov.

Enjoy!

Arnaud.
[Android Apps and Games] freak4dell:
I installed this to see if Google Assistant would work, since it doesn't work on Brave. Unfortunately it doesn't work in Kiwi either, but loving the night mode so probably will keep it. Are there any plans to get Assistant working? It's been a known issue on Brave for over a year but no response from them.
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Hi,

It works for me.

What version of Android you have and how do you trigger the assistant ?

(I say it works for me but maybe I talk about something else ? So I want to double-check)

I can check, thanks

Arnaud.
[Android Apps and Games] freak4dell:
I'm on Pie on a Pixel 3. Activating by voice does work, however, the UI does not pop up. It does chime and respond to voice input after the chime. Squeeze to trigger and holding the pill to trigger does not work at all. No UI pops up, and it does not respond to any commands.

I think the blocking that's applied causes it to not show the UI. Same thing happens on Brave and Bromite.

If it helps at all, here's the GitHub issue from Brave:

https://github.com/brave/browser-android-tabs/issues/459
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Got you, I was thinking about something else then :)

I am going to check.
[Android Apps and Games] simpsonr:
Feature Request: Option to turn off the shared image with the link when I use the share capability. I share a lot of links with friends and Kiwi does this thing where it share two pieces of info... the page link and an accompanying image... I'd like the option to turn that image sharing off... it confuses a lot of folks as they try to click it and all they get is a snippet image... they don't scroll up and see the link. Furthermore, I'd love it if the link had some accompanying text... like the article or page title... so they know at a glance what the link is about. Thanks much. Best browser out there by far!!!
[Android Apps and Games] alagga:
I'm getting ads on zippyshare.com.

Very annoying are the onclick ads which open a new tab showing ads.

The ads appear on nearly every download from zippyshare.com.

Maybe you can fix this :)

Best greets and keep up the amazing work!
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Will fix this one specifically, they have some anti-adblock thing there ;)
[Android Apps and Games] jobhax:
Love the app now. Only request left is adding extension support. I know you got user scripts in the works though. Looks great and since the bookmarks finally works it's usable for me :victory:
[Android Apps and Games] dr460nf1r3:
+1 for User extensions. Having extensive adblock and Support for useragent change is the thing which lets me use Firefox atm
[Android Apps and Games] kvevand63:
Loving the night mode!! ❤️❤️
[Android Apps and Games] b.roid:
love the menu in night mode now :good:

interesting you need to set to 101 to get white text which is easier to read anything under makes text grey. is this by design?

in anycase 101 looks great :)

thanks for the awesome work
[Android Apps and Games] b.roid:
also not sure how hard this would be but having custom rss feeds for home news feed would be amazing.

then everyone could have their fav sites load in home page.

not all of us read the same news sites. i hate seeing fakenews from Google :angel:
[Android Apps and Games] Tomatot-:
Amazing update and amazing dark mode. I'm glad to see you're updating the app more often now. Every single new update is exciting as well and add proper features.

As I suggested before, could you add a box to tick to turn on or off dark mode? It would fit better with the other options (desktop and annoying ads). Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Ah true :) It would be more logical with the checkbox.

I haven't thought about it.

Thanks for the kind words too
[Android Apps and Games] Emu:
Night mode is A+
[Android Apps and Games] xmiseggs:
Congratulations, I like to have versions every little time, I like the dark mode, I like that now eliminates much better the ads there are even less blank spaces (where there were ads), it's faster ... impressive, what a good job.

Please in the menu option: "Contrast Night mode (gray: 97, default: 9..." move under the own option and in smaller font (gray) the text that shows this option in parentheses, is cut and not read all the text of the option.

Thank you very much for your work
[Android Apps and Games] D4xel:
Did anyone try this browser on a smart TV with Android TV as OS?
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
It works on Nvidia Shield ;)
[Android Apps and Games] D4xel:
Thanks, I'll try it on smart TV!
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Good luck!:fingers-crossed:
[Android Apps and Games] chabula:
how to update and how to see which version is running, now I only see a number
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Latest shows version 70.0.3538.64 in Settings -> About

In the Play Store this is release Watermelon

(note: it's not actually Chromium 70, it's a heavily modified Chromium 69 with some 70 features)

I need to add the release name some day :D
[Android Apps and Games] Yippee-ki-yay:
Solved (new version)
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Glad to hear :)
[Android Apps and Games] Tomatot-:
When I'm using the night mode, while I'm scrolling, the font gets very blurry. Is it the same for you? And is there anything to do to improve it?

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Edit: switching contrast to 101 helps however when I'm typing here on XDA for example I can't see what I'm writing.
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
It's due to the way AMOLED screens work.

When the luminosity is very low, then the pixels are shut down, and when you scroll they need to re-light.

https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...moled-phone-have-this-or-only-the-op3.451965/

This is called Blackbleeding, it's normally, and after a while you kinda get used to it. But it's surprising, and that's why AMOLED black is not default in night mode of Kiwi ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Tomatot-:
Very interesting and it makes a lot of sense. Indeed I have an AMOLED display.
[Android Apps and Games] chopoLet:
Thank you so much for spoiling us. :D the browser looks so awesome in my end now.

Good work sir arnaud42
[Android Apps and Games] kkandy:
If you hold long for opening links in new tabs and such I always get a force close.
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Ah I'm very very very interested. I've heard of this crash, but never caught it.

Next time, right after a force close, can you send me the logcat logs ? (in private or email at arnaud@geometry.ee) using logcat.

If your phone is rooted you can use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nolanlawson.logcat&hl=en and just save the logs (or any equivalent tool)

then I can figure out what is going on.

Are you using Substratum btw ?
[Android Apps and Games] kkandy:
I sent you the logs via eMail. After disabling the substratum theme (Swift Black) for Kiwi it's gone though. Maybe there is still something to change on your side.
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
I've asked the devs of Swift Black, let's see
[Android Apps and Games] Tomatot-:
If I may again add a suggestion, I think it would be interesting to reverse the order of the options when clicking on the menu icon : instead of the list going from top to bottom, going from bottom to top. So it would be easier to rich "next / bookmark / etc. Icons" as well as main options such as new tab etc.

What do you think?
[Android Apps and Games] Try it or die:
It would be more easier if we can sort the options by ourselves. But I'm sure this means more work for the dev.
[Android Apps and Games] Punky69:
Hi,

first i want to say i really like this browser.

But i have a problem with the add blocker.

Go to the side ThaiVisa, Forums, Thailand News.

When you open a thread with several pages, you can not switch to the next page.

When you disable add blocking everything is working.

Thanks for your great work!
[Android Apps and Games] b.roid:
many sites dont work with adblocker enabled. sites dont like adblockers.
[Android Apps and Games] Punky69:
Hi b.roid,

other browsers with add blocker (Opera, Yandex) are working correct on this side.
[Android Apps and Games] b.roid:
different ad blocker is being used. different ad blockers work different on each site.

maybe Dev will look though and see what issue is.

ad blocker works 95% for me. whenever i have issue i just turn it off in the handy menu and it works.
[Android Apps and Games] djcsurf:
Just reporting that the bug when searching in Google is still present when it lags or doesn't enter typed words. Not sure if a logcat will catch anything but can try unless arnaud can reproduce
[Android Apps and Games] ViVi93:
I too had this issue. But once i built the theme again in substratum the issue got resolved.
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
Same for me still on the latest update
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Hello,

How do you reproduce the issue ? Is it on Chrome as well ?
[Android Apps and Games] Mr saxobeat:
Thank you for the best android browser over there, it will always be my daily driver, but there is some feature that could make it even more awesome:

-Always incognito mode

-floating window ( like the one in monument browser, it is very cool and unique, and it is the only browser with this useful feature )

- download automatically with ADM (most of us use it already, it would be nice if kiwi browser download automatically with ADM when a download link is clicked instead of downloading with default android downloader)

-theming or a dark mode ( not a night mode - seems hard to add to this browser tho .. )
[Android Apps and Games] dr460nf1r3:
For theming use Swift installer !
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
For me it is only when deleting text in search boxes on websites.

The 1st time you do it there is no problem , i think it gets worse each time you do it.

I just reproduced it by,

1. Search for something on google (eg. "word finder")

2. Click in the google search box and hold down delete (backspace) to delete "word finder"

That works fine.

3. Type something else in the google search box ( eg. "Honor 8" ) and click search ( magnifying glass button )

4. Click in the google search box and hold down delete (backspace) to delete "honor 8"

This time it lags very badly !

I don't have chrome but i just tried it on brave browser and that also lags.

I think someone here a few pages back said it may be device specific.

I use a galaxy s6 atm

It happens exactly the same on other sites too.

I always used to use firefox and don't remember having the problem with that.

I may order a xiaomi mi max 3 tonight so i will see how it is on there.

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NO lag using samsung internet browser
[Android Apps and Games] KernelCorn:
Are there plans for an option to be able to clear data upon pressing exit?

That's one and only thing I miss from Ghostery. Everything else with this browser is great!
[Android Apps and Games] alagga:
What exactly is Swift installer?

Or do you mean Substratum + Swift Black Theme?

(Don't really want to use Substratum)
[Android Apps and Games] Gero71:
I have the bug (not able to type in searchbox, password box, reply field, etc) on Chrome, Brave and Kiwi.

So probably something in the Chromium source. When it happens, I go to home screen of phone, open Kiwi again and I can type in the type field again.

Here it's very random when the bug appears and happens with every keyboard I tried, so that is not the issue.
[Android Apps and Games] dr460nf1r3:
Swift installer is a standalone theming app working without root as well
[Android Apps and Games] Emu:
Can you please make the buttons on the top right a little brighter for OLED screens like mine? They're very dark. I already have contrast at 101%.
[Android Apps and Games] b.roid:
yeah probably white text would fix that. i noticed the same thing.
[Android Apps and Games] █████:
I think the settings dialog when pressing the 3 dotts should be ordered the other way around. If i want to reload the page or go Forward/Back I have to stretch my poor fingers to the top. ? but user scripts are way more important... just stick to your plan and maybe have a look at the settings if you are bored thx