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[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Not dying. But I'd guess everything they should have changed on how their system and Apps work for Oreo is something they now have to do. As I read restrictions by Google got harder with Pie on that end.

In addition on my German blog I'm still getting a lot of mails from users of Samsung, Xiaomi, Nokia and other OEM crying about how bad Pie is, and how many bugs are present. All bugs on all OEM are that similar that I have to assume they are introduced by Google.

So I'm currently really asking myself if I really want Pie (and I'm someone who wants major updates fast in general), or if I just wait there's more months or so.

Nevertheless HTC should tell us something about the status of the update at least.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Groby:
Hi,

I've received OTA 1.30.708.2 with Patch 1st September 2018 Oreo 8.0 some days ago. Hopefully next is Pie! :)
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] karlanal:
no hurry, i decided, well i havent decided it, i just can live vith my phone like this anymore

button work fine but in a call, as soon as the phone is on my ear and i move it a little bit the earspeaker goes allmost silent

and in one calll this happens 2-5 times, very frustrating

the phone is one of the first batches and i just hope they are willing to accept it and repair it on warranty over the imei number
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Electronic Punk:
It is of course nice to see someone who will defend HTC whatever the reason, but those times should be fairly over now.

While the marketing budget for HTC hasn't been stellar for a few years (those skydiving htc one and m8 adverts with Gary Oldman were fantastic) they did have a strong community behind them. Elevate is still there, but they seem to have shut the door but accidentally left the lights on with Kensei the last guy running it apparently forgetting to pull the plug before suggesting that if you love HTC phones, then you are going to love Alaska airlines. Well and truly ditched a community that would have done anything.

Don't treat HTC as some small business, they may act like it with their underdog status now, but if they don't want to work with developers or the community anymore they are getting what they deserve. Android P was first shown 10 months ago, released 5 months ago, how hard is to provide an update somehow without seeing global third-party run Twitter accounts spew out the same marketing drivel.

You might think that they want to provide a high quality release, but both Oreo releases for the 10, 11 and U12 have issues that were never addressed. God knows why they still don't align themselves and release global firmware updates and make their life easy, they did it to some extent with single sim and dual sim.

Would love to be wrong and do check here to see if any news has come every day, but I think HTC is starting to move on.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MirageBlader:
They speak about a 2019 phone before even releasing P for they're current flagship.

I see it coming that they will release a new flagship before the U12+ will see P.

The lack of communication is terrible.

I totally agree that HTC isn't a small company and they shouldn't act like everything is fine. It's they're own fault that people abandon HTC.

I switched to HUAWEI after being with HTC since HD2. No idea what they're marketing is thinking.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
No, the new flagship comes later this year. Pie will be released soon, won't take that long anymore.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MirageBlader:
Last word from HTC was in August with a "soon" for the release schedule if I didn't miss any news.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] GaetanoS.89:
Last news were talking about the upgrade in Q4 2018 so this means December, but is always appreciated got the upgrade a bit later but having the HTC optimization and not get a very soon upgrade full of bugs and not well optimized.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
The only 2019 phone as of yet is the Desire 12s as the Low End Device. And as already said above, Cher Wang said on CES 2019 that the flagship, or as she named it the 5G phone, will hit markets somewhen in the second half of the year, as they will use it as a relaunch of their Smartphones devision. So first half all we might expect to see (only guessing) might be the Mid-Range device
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shankly1985:
Really do wish HTC was more vocal about updates. They announce the update will come and that is that. You then left thinking when?

No information about progress, nothing.

It's one of my biggest complaints I have against HTC is there addressing the community needs to be better.

Become part of the community, and you will have there trust.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] GaetanoS.89:
Hi guys,

Any news or updates regarding Android 9 or any patch update?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
It will come when it's ready, could be next week, could be in few weeks. Android 9 is still buggy and the OEM needs to fix those bugs, since Google doesn't think of fixing then. So better wait and have a bugfree system, then having a bugfest system and all people are annoyed and raging against the company
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MirageBlader:
It's not like Pie is a pure bugfest. It's that the last word from HTC was August with saying a release schedule will come soon.

Beside, they didn't updated their Apps for like ages. The phone app looks like it's still on 4.0. no word from them. The support is terrible, I hardly find 1 positive review or experience.

I think, that's where the hate for HTC comes from. Also their information on what phones get Pie didn't cover some 2017 released phones which are capable of having it. At least from what I saw.

I don't think that almost half a year it takes to make a working Pie Rom for their 2018 flagship. They are not even providing security patches.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
They are providing security patches, when they release an update with some older date in the settings, it doesn't mean the newer aren't inside. HTC always used some newer patches which were important for their devices and that's why there isn't always the newest date, because they just took what they needed and didn't used the full package provided by google.

Also they don't have that many developers now, regarding the UI of the apps. Can't say anything to it, I also don't know if they gonna do some great changes to the UI
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] zaibatsu:
Is it somehow possible to deactivate rollback protection? I'd like to boot the A slot where the previous software version (before taking the ota) is still available, if i'm understanding this correctly. Would this be doable with s-off?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Just set the slot you want as active over in bootloader/download mode (forgot which is the proper one to use for that command).
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] zaibatsu:
I did that, but slot A doesn't boot. Restarts right after the HTC logo.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] nomaj:
Don't expect up til March. =(
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] karlanal:
you hasve a source for that info or just thinking out loud

than i wont live to witness that event, definitely switching

i think nokia is the best choice, i like where they are going and what they do to get there

keep your ui stockish, means fast updates

no curvy trendy bull****, no notch, do this few milimeters of a bigger screen really matter that much

from what ive seen till now great build quality, dont have to worry everytime is slips out of the hand

good battery and they put pure view on the 9 , that is a big promise and of course they know

that everyone is expecting something a llevel or two better than anything on or comming to the market next year

did i miss something, everything mentioned coupled together makes the perfect phone for everryone

ah yes, they should somehow squeeze the 855 in it, but still great phone
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] nomaj:
I have source. =(
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] GaetanoS.89:
Are you sure is your source is right? Is it directly from HTC?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
Yeah that's why using Google phone in the beta program is freakin awesome on the U12+.

Also it's nice using a dependable device day after day after day, year after year without any bugs. Not only with my U12+ but I can power up my M8 right now and use it without any bugs. Completely content especially with root, Google phone and Substratum.

Not many phones can compare from 2018.

---------- Post added at 03:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:15 AM ----------

I had this problem and the only way I was able to fix it was to get S-Off and roll back to a previous version and take the OTA to upgrade. It fixes both slots. But somewhere along the way after I have this same situation again, where I can't boot my 2nd slot. Not sure what causes it to prevent it.

---------- Post added at 03:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:19 AM ----------

Guess you haven't read the news about Huawei? Glad to see Huawei is getting what they deserve as well. I would never own a China phone. Huawei only wish they were as good as HTC.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MirageBlader:
It's the news, Samsung could do it none would care because Huawei gets all the hate. It's just a thing between China and US. I personally don't care about it at all and in a few years none will, because there will be a new drama going on.

Leave the mentioned drama beside and judge only by the product they offer. HTC could learn a lot how to build phones. I am having a mate 20 pro now and it's by far better then anything I had so far from HTC.

The last good one was HTC 10.

I call it, they will announce a new phone before P hit any HTC phone.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
OP updated.

Thread title was adapted to take into account the fact that the HTC U12+ and HTC Exodus 1 share the same Model ID. Only differences are with respect to software and chipsets.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shankly1985:
Update coming soon but it's not Pie

https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/1095945078655332352?s=19
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] leginag:
It just dropped.

1.53.454.4 - ASIA JP

Still seems to be on September security patch.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] qriozum:
You can see on the screenshot EU version that the date of the security patches is dated on December 1
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] leginag:
Here's my screenshot. Clearly says September.

Which is a mistake, as after the install, it does say December.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] qriozum:
So it was explained, the error is in the content of the changelog :)

regards

q.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] GaetanoS.89:
Which CID you have?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shankly1985:
Nothing showing up in the UK unlocked
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] GaetanoS.89:
Me too. HK 622 living in uk
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] zaibatsu:
New OTA for Exodus 1

Just noticed a new update popping up this morning for the Exodus 1. Unfortunately I wont be able to install it, because I unlocked the bootloader, and there is no RUU available for the EMEA region to flash the stock system img back.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
There are RUUs on easy firmware though. Anyways you won't be able to use Zion any more. Device has to be sent in to set the bootloader properly back to locked/official (as RElocked won't do the trick on an Exodus): see my PSA thread for more information on it.

https://xdaforums.com/u12-plus/how-to/exo-htc-exodus-s-unlock-relocked-t3899432
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] GaetanoS.89:
Which Cid do you have?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] zaibatsu:
HTC__034
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] GaetanoS.89:
I have checked out my U12+ with Cid HTC_622 and still no updates.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ziand:
Here is your RUU for EMEA:

https://xdaforums.com/u12-plus/how-to/collection-htcu-u12-ruu-firmware-t3794664/post79035468
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] WPtE:
HTC just gave an update to the Pie update on facebook:

Edit: apparently it's gone again... the feedback wasn't that good either...

Screenshot: http://i63.tinypic.com/2qx3y2d.jpg

The attachment doesn't work for some reason
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Max128:
I have see it too.

Envoyé de mon HTC U12+ en utilisant Tapatalk
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] noomarsil:
Q2 of 2019 is coming, so they should just give us this f#ckin update, instead of another ****ty statement...
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Electronic Punk:
Wonder why it was removed again.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] dr-jo:
HTC U12+ Europe OTA Update 1.53.401.5
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] geojoking:
Received the update as well, HTC U12+ Dual-Sim, CID 034.

Don't know about performance, too early to tell.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] donkeykong1:
Confirmed CID HTC__034

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[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shankly1985:
Update is live UK unlocked dual sim also.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] AtAM1:
All this wait (4 months) for them to release an update and they finally release one with a December 2018 patch?! SHAME ON YOU HTC!!

Instead of focusing on supporting your flagship device and retaining whatever customer/fan-base you have left, you go and focus on launching crypto phones when crypto currencies are being outlawed. Where is your common sense?? What bloody planet are you on? Stop delaying Android 9 and release it ASAP!!!!!!
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
At first, they take a patch and concentrate on patching, picking and make it compatible. In this case it was the December patch. After it's released, they can focus on newer things. Also if there is no reason to use newer patches and just change it for the stupid date in settings/about, they won't use up money and time for an unnecessary update. If there is a reason and the need of patching something in their framework, which is in newer patches, they will use it.

And Android 9 is not really delayed, they update it later to have a bugfree system, most other companies have phones running with pie and a lot issues. Do you want issues? I bet no;)

Web3.0 and crypto currencies are getting more and more important and are on the way of getting the standard soon
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] AtAM1:
While I respect your view, I humbly request that you stop making excuses for them as you and others that do are empowering them to crap on us.

Samsung and other premium Chinese phone makers are rolling out at least 2 to 3 updates a month with monthly security releases/patches.. They have also received Android Pie so how is HTC different? Have you even seen the critical to high vulnerabilities listed under January and February security patches?

As for current crypto currencies - their days are numbered. The underlyning technology, blockchain, will remain and new government, audited and monitored currencies will be released but that won't happen for another 2 to 3 years. Why focus on something that is losing momentum and on its way out when they need to support current flagship devices by keeping them up to date? Is this what they want their prospect customers to see and experience let alone their current customers!! Have you even seen their Facebook post feed and the comments they are receiving from their fan base?

And if you haven't been following the news - HTC is now signing brand licensing deals with Indian phone manufacturers...

Mark my words.. This is the end of HTC.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Electronic Punk:
To be fair the Exodus just got the same patch so its not getting additional focus, other than the special team working on its specific software of course.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] AtAM1:
Exodus didn't just fall out of the sky. They had their hardware/software teams working on the exodus since September. They spent time working on zion that they total ignored the U12+ for the past several months and the proof is in the absence of timely security patches. They may have been working on Android Pie or maybe not but for them to release an update today saying it has been pushed to Q2.. Really??

Up until today I had a September 2018 security patch. The least they could have done to buy them time to release Android Pie was to release a February security patch but instead they release a December 2018 patch.. What a sh!t show!!

Down with Cher Wang!! She is clearly way over her head. If she really wanted to focus on user privacy, crypto bla bla bla, she wouldn't have rushed and released exodus/zion. Instead, she should have kept it for the next flagship release in mid 2019, removed the garbage privacy invading apps they bundled with their current sense version, fix current edge issues and reworked sense UI... And of course staying current by releasing Pie. This shows users the company is committed to them and to improving their experiences with the devices HTC sells, their security and their privacy.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mammothjojo88:
Well us with the US Unlocked U12+ are still waiting for an update.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] AtAM1:
I feel for you, I really do.

If HTC is indeed in violation of their settlement agreement of 2012 with the FTC then I urge you, seeing that you are an American and impacted by this, to file a report with the FTC regardless of whether they release a patch for your region today, tomorrow or even next week.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] noomarsil:
I'm really curious if bright heads from HTC will pepare UI changes in Sense to make it compatible with Android Pie. I mean, some Sense apps and settings looks exactly like few years ago. In the end, they had a lot of time, with all those delays to give us a full-fledged Android Pie experience. If not - no excuses for HTC. We paid a lot for flagship and other brands know how to take care of theirs customers. Are we worse customers than Samsung or Sony have? We deserve more! Especially for our patience and loyalty!
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] GaetanoS.89:
Did anyone with HTC_622 cid got the update?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
No. They are changing focus and are on track of 5G and AR/VR now, as MWC clearly did show of. Smartphones are no longer the core market of HTC, but will be kept for some more time. Let's see if they'll fade out of smartphones, and when it'll be the case. Nevertheless they are on track if you look at the revenue details and look for AR/VR and 5G.

So now back to topic. This is an OTA thread and no general discussion thread about HTC and how their future might look like.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] donkeykong1:
On topic. Battery life seems to get a big hit to the worse. I'm gonna let it settle for few charges, but, for now it's about 30% worse than before

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[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] AtAM1:
I am aware this is an OTA thread which is why the bulk of my venting was on the lack of and speed of updates/security patches.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] geojoking:
That's weird. Mine's waaaay better.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] donkeykong1:
I know. I read reports about great battery life, and mine is the oposite. Worst case scenario - i'll do a factory reset if my battery doesn't improve

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[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] donkeykong1:
So, an update about my battery life.

SOT is better than before, my phone drains less when I use it, but standby time is much worse. I used to get 0.3 - 0.5 % per hour drain on standby, and now I can't get less than 1% per hour. I can't detect any rouge apps, so I'll do a factory reset tomorrow when I come home from my business trip

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[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shankly1985:
I wouldn't say my battery is better, its the same has before to be honest. The phone does however seem smoother.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] donkeykong1:
I found the reason why my phone drained so fast. It got stuck on low GSM signal somehow. I fixed it and I'm gonna see how it behaves. It's already as good as before and my phone is a bit smoother and snapier

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[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
How did you fix it? For me mobile standby is draining a lot...
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] donkeykong1:
Well, first I downloaded Gsam battery monitor and saw my mobile signal is low all the time. I tried pulling my SIM card out, but that didn't help. What helped was a simple reboot. My signal immediately went from low to high, and it stopped draining. I managed 36 hours off charge and a bit under 6 hours SOT again. Before, I couldn't get over 20 hours off charge no matrer what I did

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[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Venacephalica:
Isn't it the same when activating/deactivating flight mode?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] donkeykong1:
I don't know. I had mobile signal, it was just low and it caused drain. Reboot fixed it for a short time. I had to factory reset my phone afterall. I'm going to see how it behaves now, and if it continues to drain - off to claim my warranty

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[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] noomarsil:
April fools?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvvZiW4AuLy/
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Max128:
Probably.. but some website talking about like this one: https://www.smartdroid.de/htc-bringt-android-9-pie-auf-das-u12/

I'm also looking forward to having pie.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
April's fool was right. They are talking about it, because just one blog mentioned it and yet they haven't had another legit source. This was fake
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] qriozum:
That's right, it's a fejk. There is no update in Poland for HTC U12+, I checked in person yesterday afternoon, switching to the "clean slot".

regards

q.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shankly1985:
Finally some information for the Pie update. Coming June for U12+

We want to share the release schedule of the Android Pie updates for #HTC smartphones. Please note, certain regions & carrier deployment may affect these dates. U11 rollout will begin late May, 2019; U11+ will begin late June, 2019; U12+ will begin mid-June, 2019. Thank you

https://twitter.com/htc/status/1126925854997528576
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Jump1ng:
Nice to see that the current "flagship" is after the two previous models....
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Razorbacktrack5535:
-> U11 -> U12+ -> U11+

Late May - Mid June - Late June
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MirageBlader:
First it was Q1 And now it's Q2. Maybe they release it before Android Q maybe even later.

There no communication from this company. Hopefully someone big shows up soon, buys it and make it disapear.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Jump1ng:
Still the U12+ should be first then the older ones.

I'm pretty sure this will be my last HTC phone, after having almost every model since the Wildfire the journey is coming to its end.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Razorbacktrack5535:
FS :good:
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] dlorde:
Lol! Glad I kept my U11 - I can get used to Pie before it comes to the U12+.

I'm doubting whether HTC will be making another flagship - it's a big commitment, and they've been struggling to support their current models for some time - and given their situation, who would buy it if they did? The clamp-down on Huawei came too late to help.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Simpody:
https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/1131273981594603520?s=19