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[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Apo11on:
You give Huawei/Honor too much credit. The reason they are "moving against unlocked bootloaders" is not because they've done their proper market research and came to facts based conclusion it won't hurt their business, but because there is a serious disconnect between upper management, who gave the order, and who gets whispers in their ears from their so called "security advisors" and because they are not technical enough or care enough to understand the full extent of technical repercussions - how much it will cripple their devices. They have the same outdated opinion as our friend zelendel, and still think only a fraction of single percent of users would be impacted and unhappy, so they will find out the hard way when their quarterly sales start gradually but consistently declining - this is no longer the stone age, people are tech savvy and want the freedom to do with their own property whatever they want.

No clue what you mean by "easily gather and sell your data" though, or what my attention has to do with anything. Are you saying all those consumer protection agencies, all those strict European Union regulations regarding consumer privacy and data protection, FCC and TENAA regulations means nothing and manufacturers can do whatever they want with our data, without suffering consequences??? :confused::confused:
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] zelendel:
No need for it. I have been doing this same thing for almost 20 years. You don't stay this active without adapting to why's coming and being prepared for it. Just look at all the great devs. You never wondered why they are all doing app development now? Even chains moves to IOS.

Really? Is that what you thing? Well keep this in mind. The iPhone is still the best selling device with the best customer service.

Of course they do. Most people don't have the common sense they evolved with. I mean really. Anyone that uses a custom is made by some random kid on the internet and screams security then you are a complete idiot.

You don't get it. We are less then 1% of the mobile devices buyers. Every single person on xda could never buy another device and guess what. It wouldn't even be a blip on the radar.

You need to accept that the modder community is not as powerful or even useful as we want to believe.

Now you assume that I like this change? I don't care either way. I was here when we had to hack out time bombs in beta software. I was here when Android was a wet dream. I was here when Android started and I'll be here when Android dies. It is all part of the cycle. Most won't be able to see that far but then they are not supposed to.
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] br54:
You send me a Samsung

I'll send you this pos honor with 0 updates 0 support and 0 security

If security was their main focus.. They would push timely updates.. Instead they lock the phone so their keyloggers and soyware will not be discovered or removed.

The reason I came here was to unchain my phone from their nwo and the fascist Corp elite... What was I thinking looking to a communist government phone.

As this was a gift..I cannot say much

Buy if I spend my money..I have a total right as to what software runs on it.. Or at least a right to remove any keyloggers, data miners, and the ****ware advertising apks the librards put on my phone thinking they know what's best or how I should live.

Final word of advice... Bring our industry back from China.... They clearly don't give a ****.

**** honor.. **** Huawei.. And **** China.

Samsung.. I'm sorry please take me back.. You let me own my phone.

And to that cooperate ****tard defending their decision to **** on xda and dishonor their word... You sir are an enemy of freedom with your view that the users don't own their phone.

I don't even buy doc Martin's that's made in China.. Because they are cheap crap that don't compare to the UK made ones.

I really tired to be open minded.. But **** communism..

The "ai" that learns you and tells China.... Just think about that..
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Matrix_ver_6.9:
More OTA's perhaps?

Would the Honor 10 have long term support in its OTA updates? (Like the Nexus 5X; Considering it is a 3 year old phone, it had the latest factory rom up to android 8.1)

I have been a fan of the Honor series since 2014 when I got the Honor 3C back then in 2014 given to me by my father.

It only had 1 OTA update (EMUI 3.0 B320) until it was discontinued so here I am relying on custom roms.

I'm using it until now even if the screen is cracked, sides chipped off, and the back cover's corners chipped off too. Old but gold perhaps?
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] br54:
Nope.. These are sell and forget phones.. All they do is report your daily activities to the communist regime.

Don't buy honor or wowwe should stay away phones

Buy Samsung... Better phones with tons of support.

Doubt I can use this phone a year

I was able to update and keep current a sgh i317 and a gtn7000 for 6 years.. Honor don't want that.. They want you to keep buying throw away phones.

Besides.. They run over collage students with tanks.. Simply for wanting to be free.
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
I don't think so bro.The Honor 6x still gets security updates timely and is scheduled to get Oreo as well(beta Released in china)
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] br54:
I know so..I have a bkl l09 with November of last year security.. And 0 updates available.

None of the junk on HFF will install

And system update reports nothing.

I'm on b100 .. So tell me.. Where's this update.

They are using security to screw you out of privacy... Because you know communist and dear leader...

All that locked bootloader does is secured their communist spywares
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Honor_CEO_George:
Hi Citdo3,

From your question, I suppose you are a student with an outstanding academic performance cuz you are asking a question about our strategy and vision :)

Basically, the advantage of Honor can be seen from our slogan "for the brave". Actually, we have been putting lots of money in R&D in terms of both the hardware and software so that you can see a booming advancement of AI technology and EMUI in the past few years, bearing the risk of innovating in a wrong direction. We hope our customers could have the same spirit as us which brings us together.

To be more specific, our advantage is that we have got the advanced technology, we have got the most beautiful ID design, and we have got the best value for money products.

Many thanks!

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Hello dathtd119,

The reason for Honor 10 to adopt the Notch design is simply that we are trying to provide a bigger screen-to-body ratio to our customers whereas the front camera is quite important. We provided a built-in setting to hide the notch so that this might not be a big problem, besides the notch design is not that bad, from my perspective. As for Honor 11, we haven't decided on this yet, but we will investigate our customers first to analyse that whether the notch design is unacceptable.

Thanks!

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Hello gavinfabl,

Thanks for your support of Honor:D

We totally understand that you guys desire a regular security update to enjoy the new functions of EMUI.

However, it is really difficult to make the update regular because different honor products have different hardware and software so that our engineers have to do different tests for those products to ensure the update would be stable to provide the best user experience.

Cheer mate!

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Hello McGrady1,

It seems you are a fans of Hoston Rocket. So am I, I am fond of YaoMing:laugh:

Regarding your question, I promise you that our new technology is revolutionary and you will be shocked when it unveils.

Right now I can't tell you what our new technology is, but you have my word.

Please stay tuned, it will be released on 6th June in China.:o

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Hello sahil4518,

Thanks for your question. Actually, this is exactly what our AI technology could help. Our intelligent AI powered by the independent NPU is able to learn your behaviour and automatically allocate the resources to give more CPU and memory to the apps actually used to ensure a smooth experience. :o

Please perform due diligence next time:laugh:

Thanks and have a nice day!
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sam Nakamura:
[MENTION=9182872]Honor_CEO_George[/MENTION]

Picking just the convenient questions makes you look lazy and settled, tell us why your company isn't able to maintain the possibility of an unlocked bootloader and security the same time while other pig players on the android market can (Google, OnePlus, Xiaomi), are your competitors superior and technical more advanced?

What's the reason for your advertising on xda-developers when just canceled the most important feature for this audience here?

Wouldn't regular updates and a guaranteed support window (like 2 major android updates and 3 years of monthly security patches) offer a much better user experience than just locking up the bootloader?

Where do you see reasons this audience should decide for your products & services?
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] br54:
China likes blind kiss asses

They do not like criticism

I knew when I said I was a long time Samsung user and was interested in their product... They would send me one.

Honestly. It is a good product.. But with 0 development or support.. Which takes away any longevity .. So 500 bucks thrown away

When you can pay a bit more to Samsung and have a better product with support and longevity.

Money better spent... And no China slave labor.
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sam Nakamura:
Not even necessary to jump back to Samsung, there're better alternatives, with better value for money ratio, with liberal device policies, continues software updates and huge community support... Looking at you OnePlus :D
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] br54:
I am indeed ditching wowwe

This guy says stop asking for updates.. Everytime you do..a wowwe tech gets the hose again.

The reason I buy Samsung.. Are for the made in Korea ones..I never buy the Samsung made in China ones (cough tfailble). Only att.

I'll never make the mistake in looking at or buying one made in China again.

Only honorable thing for wowwe to do now is fall on a sword for the lies and deceit.
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] awells845:
I don't understand why users are bashing Huawei/Honor. If you don't like there products, don't buy them.

In my opinion Huawei and Honor are doing well and i think the only thing holding them back with regular updates is too many variants of devices. They should scrap the different device codenames and make one device with support for all region specific bands. This will reduce the workload for them and allowing them to provide timely updates for there devices.
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Amirk365:
???? Samsung? As in the Samsung who throttles their batteries and phone performance and whose devices in the lower and mid range will never see a proper update? I'll take my chances. Now run along to your fanboi thread.
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] br54:
Let's put it this way

Before I own another China phone

I'll get a apple
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] awells845:
Nice. I would make apple crumble. :laugh:
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sam Nakamura:
Apple however produces in China, as per their logo on every device "designed by Apple in California - Assembled in China", according to your former arguments this doesn't make any sense...

Again, there are "the good" android OEMs, even out of China, no extrem solution is needed, good solutions are rather close - it's just this OEM which joined the "never again cooperations"...
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] br54:
Thank you Samsung

They made me a update

Just to let wowwe know

They know all your code.

NK solider ran across the dmz with the code

Samsung.. The better Asian choice.

As for one plus

https://www.howtogeek.com/340174/its-time-to-stop-buying-phones-from-oneplus/

The apple commit was a joke..I hate apple for the same reasons I've turned on wowwe.

Made in China.. I'll pass. Walmart is failing for these same reason... China junk.
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sam Nakamura:
But what about those customers who purchased the device already in expectation of an unlockable bootloader? Sure if they have 60 days to get the unlock code but of what use will this code be, all developers will just leave, there will be no one who will develop for this dead devices...

If I had bought a view 10 or p20 I'd be really pissed, especially as the signals this company sent into the community were totally different, nobody would have expected such contradictory and far reaching action - I think they owe a better explanation to their customers than just "for security reasons", where were the security concerns when starting the honor open source project?

That's a scandal in my opinion!

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This link is outdated already... Situation changed but sure, there are difficulties too but compared to this situation here with huawei / honor it's complaining on higher level... But enough fanboyizm from my side... lol

99,9% of today's world is "China junk" as you probably know, still not all is bad, I'm not a friend of generalizing things because of one bad experience...
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] br54:
I've got a really nice taken care of view 10 for sale

Included will be a kickstand case

A premium screen protector

Pm for details

Since development is dead it will die

I have no use for this device.

I miss helping and discovering new things and programs.....I don't need daddy chin telling me what I want or need under false security.
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jordan46:
Hello, would it be possible to have a AI companion feature, not a voice assistant whereas the he or she AI personality talks to you having a conversation about places, animals, tv personalities etc.other people and AI personality can join in too as well. i have a few suggestion please read

#1 multiple fingerprint and 3D facial recognition

#2 AI camera augmented reality CGI for picture and video background of places

like KingKey 100 etc

#3 moving picture extended duration

#4 zoom in with camera have have high resolution with autofocus

#5 resetting UI to stock, for example notification animation back to stock etc

#6 capture text to notepad alike feature

my 7X is on the 7.0 android version and i don't think i'm going to get the Oreo update, is there a way where you could give us a server access website to get the desired ota update or a website form, sending phone number, model number, build number, IMEI number, country?
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
Try firmware finder bro
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ramheer:
Android P Beta

Hi I would be interested in seeing an Android P beta ROM made available for the Honor 10 the same way OnePlus has the option with the OnePlus 6 and Xiaomi has with the Mi Mix S2. What would be excellent is a dual boot option using 2 sim cards and 2 different ROMs. I look forward to hearing your reply thank you.

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Could you please please send out an update for video recording stabilization using EIS? That would really be a game changer! I look forward to hearing your thoughts. ?
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ramheer:
Image taken on the Honor 10, stunning
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] shashank1320:
Any plan for uniform ROM version for international or may be for all regions that will have same ROM version and security patches, supporting all the LTE bands so that -

there are no need of rebranding to a different regions

VOLTE supports wherever you.

no confusion over the features one region has and other dont (NFC on Honor 6X is just an example)

Any roadmap to include Leica Camera to Honor Brand?
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mudnightoil:
From what I'm hearing, this indeed may well be a play to get the US authorities (and by extension networks) on board with their stuff again.

This being the bootloader unlocking withdrawal.

If that really is the case, just do it in the US market, FFS. Why damage your brand globally?
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
Yaa exactly
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sam Nakamura:
Because they're totally clueless and undecided, unreliable even...

Just started to built up a community in the "open source scene" by projects like the honor open source project, sending developer units out, team up with xda-developers just to destroy all their efforts the next day...

There's either a serious disconnect between the upper management and the staff or they suffer mental illness :laugh:
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Double Chin Bigot:
Hello Mr. Zhao,

I know you will ignore this message as well because it isn't comfortable and/or doesn't contain a$$-lickery towards your brand, but I want to say that I'm extremely disappointed by the recent events, and I want to clearly state that Honor 9 will be my last Huawei/Honor device, and most likely my last Android device. I'm extremely disappointed with the bootloader decision and with the short support period you are offering and the clunky updates. While the hardware is good, the software is dragging the device down. I can't recommend your devices to people anymore. To a customer that likes updates and the OEM actually caring about what I want/think I think Apple is far better. The reality is I owned an Apple phone and I still miss it and regret the sale but it was too small in hand. No Android phone will compare to the level of finesse and commitment that Apple has towards their devices. And seeing all the recent events, XDA si still suporting your company, I'm better off removing XDA from my life. This is my last post. Thanks.
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hackintosh5:
Well what disappoints me most is that they are willing to break the law to keep source code hidden; I asked for a kernel source and... They REFUSED!!! The one on the website is broken and without config or instructions, as well as having errors in the code. They said that "I'm sorry but we do not have access to the source code"WTF OF COURSE YOU DO!!! My question, Mr. Zhao, is why you employ people who delete code?
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sartaj prince:
Sure ..i really want a new device... Maybe iys better than a 2013's note 3.! That heats up while u play games!..? i am a 17 year old kid ..so my parents not buy me a new phone but i like gaming so much thats y i want a new device!

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Na that is not a bad company!! Its still a best..some fools says that huawai is a bad company..but i still love that new device!!! So.!

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Damn u have one plus 5t man!
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] zacharias.maladroit:
[MENTION=6282269]sartaj prince[/MENTION] wow - so you're playing to my emotions - even offending people only to get what you want ?

Don't be so gullible kid !

I've got the Galaxy Note 3, too and it's the best phone EVER - not even getting hot, not sure what you're doing with it - the only issue is the aging battery and the occasional hiccups it's having (well, it's close to 5 years old, after all)

What I stated was from folks who work with those companies and have first-hand experience from usage & handling :angel:

I've seen some indications that Huawei does improve - HOWEVER what's the matter if you're doing two steps forward and one steps back in the worst way ?

Then (potential) GPL violations and other stuff, that definitely doesn't shine a positive light on the company.

ENOUGH !

[MENTION=9182872]Honor_CEO_George[/MENTION]

Is your experiment finished already ?

Did you get the reactions, impressions and data, insights you wanted ?

What are your conclusions ?

Or was the purpose only to post occasional marketing mumbo jumbo ?
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sam Nakamura:
lol
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] br54:
Wowway sucks

But this Samsung 9!

And I can remove ****ty bloatware and any carrier iq or otherwise soywarere off it.

And I didn't want it to game..I only wanted the ir blaster.. Only thing the view has going for it.. It controls a lot of stuff.

Honor view 10... Universal remote.. Only thing it had to offer.
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Speedo.thc:
[MENTION=6870018]Tecalote[/MENTION] : Very nice, i know you (reputation) and maybe you know me too.

These month I have to renew my "park" devices for all my family, (me+ my wife+4 child's).. so 6 devices to get: and after study the offer and possibly .. I will change all my first choice (huawei/honor) for Xiaomi devices, coz of bootloader, but not only this: I will have better hardware for less cost , and good community support, even if I will do my custom ROMS myself ..
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tecalote:
[MENTION=5300098]Speedo.thc[/MENTION] Nice to meet you! :)

I have seen you made very good Roms for the Honor 7. It would really a big loss to lose developers like you and many others here in this Huawei / Honor forum on xda.

I am pretty sure, Bootloader Unlock Codes will be still available after the 60 days countdown. Perhaps little bit different as until now. Actually Huawei is working on a solution. I heard this from a man, which was working for Huawei and has a good connection to the management.

I am unable to convince you or others to stay with Huawei / Honor. You decide, if you want to switch to Xiaomi.

Maybe you'll think about it. :)

I am waiting for the outcome of the story. If I had stocks, I would not sell them just because bad news goes through the media.

Even if we would not get unlock codes from Huawei anymore, we can still get them from DC Unlocker. Rather, it would be bad if devices came onto the market where Unlock can no longer work. But I do not think that Huawei is so unwise.

The other side is: I feel at home in the Huawei Forum. Both here on xda and on Android Hilfe De

I love it when people argue about who is right :)

And others, in turn, express their frustrations with some derogatory remarks.

Thanks so much to everyone who posted here, and especially to those who are committed to keeping the community alive...
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] oae08:
Why is there no EIS in Honor 10 camera? Will an update add this later?
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
Their is EIS at 1080p 30fps
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] oae08:
Are you sure? No review mentioned this
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
I saw recombu's review and he has said it has EIS at 1080p 30fps and I think it comes via a update
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lisbon2004:
Hi guys!

Is there any recap on this (and list of questions answered)???
[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] otonieru:
Trust me, it doesnt really worth to read. Most of it are marketing statement If you have interest in Ai itself, google will do more for you rather than this crippled Q&A thread did. :silly: