[Honor 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Apo11on:
I already told you - the clinical term of what you're doing is "talking out of your ass". It's not healthy for you, and might get your ass in trouble. But here you go again - making unrelated, clueless guesses about my development experience. I said I have over 20 years of experience in IT, and just because I have a demanding job and busy life, and most of my coding doesn't happen on XDA - does not mean I haven't done dev work, nor does it mean you have done more than I have. You know nothing about me, and are in no position to draw any comparisons about dev experience. Just an FYI, I do have several international certifications in Security and Identity Management fields, and I work for a cyber security company as a team lead in R&D... But you keep guessing bud, keep patting yourself on the back what an elite, know-it-all developer you are.... Most important thing you are missing is that dev experience has NOTHING to do with the subject at hand. I'm not here to measure dicks bud, and if you're arguing for the sake of arguing - count me out. Having longer **** has never made anyone more right or more wrong - hence the amount of dev experience you may or may not have doesn't position you to be a better judge whether or not it's OK for manufacturers to cripple and restrict devices they sell than any other consumer. In short, your self proclaimed development superiority has no merit to the conversation.

As far as court rooms and lawyers go - I've worked with more lawyers in my life, including international, appellate attorneys and CA Supreme Court ones than the amount of actual people you have met in your life. Trust me don't go there - you don't stand a chance. And if you had even a shred of legal experience you would know you would not be allowed to do any "walking over" anyone because it is procedurally not allowed to advocate on your own behalf during any hearings/ex-partes/motions/demurrers/trials, even if you had a legal degree.

I will address this quote of yours "You want something your way? Make it yourself or shut up about it. Simple. " ONE LAST TIME - maybe I can somehow get through your thick skull:

You're essentially telling a development community, which thrives on the freedom of open source, condones and actively combats any software limitations manufacturers or carriers may introduce "manufacturers of the device you buy and own know better than you what you need, know better than you what your priorities should be, and if they take away some of the access on the devices you fully 100% own because think that is what's best for you - you should shut up, bend over and take it". Guess what? That will NEVER, EVER happen and you are delusional for thinking it's possible and will be accepted! Not now, not in a million years! NOBODY will make choices for me on what my priorities should be against my will, and OWNING a product is a binary concept - you either own it, or you don't. If you own it - NO ONE is allowed to put any restrictions on it and I don't give a damn about their reasons why they want to do it. "It's for your own good" argument does not fly here - you have NO RIGHT to impose any restrictions on the device I OWN without my consent. Get it through your thick skull - it ain't about what I want or don't want - if you sell it to me, you take my money and I own it - this is it! You're NOT ALLOWED to restrict anything on something I own, and I dont have to give a rat's ass about your reasons, arguments or priorities. If i chose to grant you an audience, so you could voice your concerns - I may listen to you, but I dont have to. You can't have it both ways - take money, transfer ownership and at the same time restrict users' access to what you dont want them to access. If it's no longer yours - YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS AND NO SAY what I access or don't access, and what I do or don't do with MY device. If you want to have control - dont sell your products. Create museums out of your damn warehouses and charge money for people to walk around, look and maybe touch your devices. Only THEN you can tell people what they may or may not access.

You said most people don't have "common sense to be left with access to root", let alone unlocked bootloader - be that as it may - you STILL have no right to restrict any of their access to devices they bought with their hard earned money and legally own. Will some of them break things or get their devices infected? - sure, but that STILL doesnt give manufacturer the right to take away the access to device they own against their will. Those people will have to learn their lesson the hard way, and either educate themselves on computer hygiene, or pay someone to manage protection of their devices, or buy and install some software that will it do it for them.