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[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Afaik its no problem using polarized sunglasses

I don't have polarized. but a few people with polarized ones tried it and there wasn't any issues. It depends on which LCD it is.. some are really bad with polarized sunglasses and some not
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jal3223:
Does the screen seem to have a curve to it on the edges? I'm wondering how difficult it will be to find a tempered glass to fit it.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
No it's absolutely flat and has just a little curve on its edges. You can see it if you zoom into those pictures.

As for tempered glass take look here: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07CXGZPXM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_NefeBb1QY1RZ2
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jal3223:
Good deal. That small curve on the edges may be an issue. Maybe not though. Thank you for sharing.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] samteeee:
[MENTION=5832952]5m4r7ph0n36uru[/MENTION]

Greetings from Canada;

I was just wondering if the U12+ has converted to the A/B Partitioning structure or not

and if yes, wouldn't it have an effect on the "Development" in general?

Thank you.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Yes U12+ ships with full A/B treble support.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] axello:
Hi everyone,

I'm a bit confused and decided to post here. Sorry if this has been already answered.

1. The phone is dual nano sim but if you install an SD card, it will use the 2nd nano sim card slot? Or is it a single nano SIM card and a regular SD card slot?

2. Can the SD card in the phone be configured as adaptive storage? Maybe it is just related to the Android version and the answer is yes as running the latest OS version.

3. If I configure my SD card as adaptive storage, travel and replace the SD card by a 2nd nano SIM card, will the phone have issues despite the loss of data on the SD card? After my trip, will things be back to normal after reinstalling the SD card?

Thanks all for your responses.

Axello
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Hi,

let me try to answer your questions:

1. hybrid-Dual-SIM. This means the extSD goes where the SIM2 normally would be. On travels you'd therefore have to replace the extSD with the according SIM2.

2. Yes this is possible on HTC phones.

3. Yes and No. So let me go in some details, as this applies to ALL Android phones allowing for usage of extSD as adaptive storage. If you configure the extSD as adaptive storage and want to replace it by a SIM2 on your travels, you'd have to re-format the extSD to external Storage prior to ejecting the extSD, as you'll run into a lot of problems otherwise. Same applies for reinserting and formatin it to adaptive storage after your return.

I'd go with the option to run an extSD card strictly as an external SDcard, but never as adaptive storage in such a case as yours. Even though I'm running 279 Apps on my 64GB U11, only 26GB of my internal storage are used at all. All photos go rght onto the external SDcard, and are synced to the cloud while on Wireless LAN n the evening.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] axello:
Hi 5m4r7ph0n36uru,

Many thanks for answering my questions. I'll follow your advice and I will not format the extSD card as adaptive storage.

My only concern here is that, in the past, I had issues to use app in my mobile (HTC Butterfly 2, ...) to copy files from the internal storage to the external extSD card (not having permission, ...) . With the HTC 10, I set the extSD to an adaptive storage and could get both as storage.

Thanks again,

Axello
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] samteeee:
Thank you for replying back and all your help & time in the forum.

I'm about to place an order today and am torn between 64GB & 128GB,

Would there be any performance(Read/Write) gain/loss between the 64/128GB UFS?

Thank you.

---------- Post added at 11:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:29 AM ----------

They're using the Apple's "Taptic Engine"!
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
No they are not using Apples Taptic Engine, but Edge Sense works the same, utilizing an own type of linear actuator. Just wanted to make clear that they didn't bind the feedback of the buttons to the vibration motor, but to something separate.

Regarding storage variants, there's only one here in Germany, as HTC ships 64GB only - don't need any more as I'm really more of a cloud-based user. But as far as I'm aware from the U11 there aren't any losses between different storage variants on the used UFS 2.1 storage.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] samteeee:
Thank for the info.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maxesxp:
How well does edge sense work with a case? Particularly the auto rotate disable feature and the double tap
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Review sample is going to arrive tomorrow. Already got a TPU bumper at hand. Thus I'll test this immediately and report back. Am interested in that one as well :)
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jal3223:
How about any tempered glass protectors?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Simple googling will bring up a quite some options mate.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jal3223:
No, I was asking if you already had one for the unit that you're receiving tomorrow. I'm interested if they are going to fit okay.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Ah understood. No don't have one. It's still on its way as well.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] idees:
Now i have a pixel 2 xl. I am considering to buy u12+, what do you think guys is it worth? :rolleyes:

(my previous device was u11+)

thanks
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mouzaihem:
It's very similar to the U11+, so if you enjoyed that device, then go for it. If your budget is tight and like your pixel, you could also wait a few months to see the pixel 3 and then choose between the u12+ or pixel.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] idees:
I was very satisfied with u11+, I just wanted to try the pixel experience.

The new pixel 3 will be available I think at the end of the year , so i think I could give a try to u12+
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] qriozum:
Hello :)

Is anyone familiar with the included in the box HTC U12 + is a back cover (case) as was the case with the HTC U11?

regards

q.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mouzaihem:
Yes, there is a clear plastic case in the box; same as the one that shipped with the U11.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] qriozum:
Thank you very much for your answer.

I ask, because I would not like to receive another order in the form of a case after receiving the U12 +;)

With U11 it was enough to put it in a pocket (empty, without keys, coins etc) and on the back housing you could see tiny scratches: /

Regards

q.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
Right, I'm sure Apple patented their implementation, but that doesn't stop HTC from coming up with their own.

I would opt for the 128 regardless of whether or not it's faster than the 64. I also use cloud services, but for the sake of battery life I keep as much local as I can. I'd have bought a 512gb iPhone X if Apple had made one.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
There is indeed a patent of all this. It's about HTC Edge Sense mate ;) Has been part of that patent all the time.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] samteeee:
Agreed!
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
Well... I just sorta almost accidentally preordered mine on HTC's financing plan. I wasn't sure if I'd be approved but then poof I had an invoice number, lol.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
I ordered a Spigen Liquid Crystal (from Amazon; it's not even on Spigen's site yet).
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] qriozum:
I've seen this case, that's why I asked if HTC added its case in the box.

Honestly, this case which was added to HTC U11 is good.

regards

q.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MNoisy:
Although it might not be as satisfying or specific, HTC already has the support section up for the U12+ on their site.

https://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-u12-plus/

It seems to cover most of the non-physical/hardware questions I have seen so far in this thread like edge sense, customization, haptic feedback, apps, storage, personalization, screenshots, reboots, and more.

I figured I would get ready to hit the ground running when my 12 arrives to replace my 10. It is not SUPER detailed, but a good start.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Myrmeko:
Oh, ok, dope.

I thought they were some sort of software buttons, but they are literally the same thing as before. Only that the trigger is not a button that get pressed, but the actual metal frame bending inwards.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Hello mate,

as my device arrived and the first few cases as well, I cann tell you the following:

HTC Hardcase: no need to say that everything works as expected

KingShark Transparent TPU Case: all Edge Sense 2.0 gestures are working just fine

QULLOO Clear TPU Softcase: short squeeze, sqeeze and hold, and hold actions are working as expected, while douple tab is a little bit unreliable (read up here for further informations)
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
It's also not really bending like you say. It's nearly the same as edge sense feature there are sensors behind the metal frame and each time you "press" on it the sensors gonna "feel" something through the metal. It's more like the heat in your hands goes through the metal and is being recognized by the sensors. That's how I understand that. If I might be wrong, feel free to tell me and I will edit my post lol
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] daniel4653:
Well you could slap in a micro SD card. On my S9 I have a 128gb SanDisk. So I opted for the 64 gb Blue U12+ to save myself $60 USD [emoji4]
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] daniel4653:
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[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
lol, that’s not enough storage for me. I haven’t yet had a good experience with adoptable storage (Apple Music will save to the microSD but Google Play Music won’t??), so having the most base storage is important to me. If Apple had released a 512gb iPhone X, I’d have bought it.

I’m eyeballing that 400gb Sandisk for the U12+ :eek:
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Apple Music as well as Google Play Music can be setup to save to the external SD. Just like the Camera App. That's why I never need nore than 64 GB internal. Just take a look:

Installed Apps: 250

Used Space: ~ 30GB internal

Everything else is step by step going to external SD. Buy a larger external SD and all will be just fine.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
I know that’s how it’s supposed to work, lol.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Meanwhile I got my retailunit in translucent blue. Damn that thing is just so gorgeous.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Oskala:
I wonder if the touch screen issue (with lots of ghost touches and the notification panel going down by itself) also is a issue in U12? Was watching a review and the notification panel seemed to be coming down without no reason. If it's a problem with this phone as well, I will cancel my order.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Max128:
I do not see this on some reviews i have look. is look fine. Someone have the phone can confirm this ?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] idees:
Does anyone use Android messages for SMS on this device?

I am asking because google's app wasn't work on my U11+
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
No touchscreen issues on my end at all. Running EMEA 1.15.401.4 DUGL on my end.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Electronic Punk:
In what way does it not work?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Googles Messages isn't well optimized for Dual SIM usage, as all Google devices have been Single SIM. That's indeed why I am using HTC Stock Messages App currently.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Electronic Punk:
It works fine, once you apply the tweak via ADB, can select SIM card and carry on.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Oh didn't see that one. Will have to do a proper forum search tomorrow to check it out. Thanks for the heads-up mate.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] idees:
what's tweak via ADB?

So it doesn;t work directly, need to something else...

Please can anyone explain what is this, and what need to be done? i am little noob with these things ;)
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Electronic Punk:
Was hoping some bugger would have dug it out already

HTC seriously still haven't fixed this?

Basically set it and never worry again, Google Messages doesn't like there is no default, once it has a default you can still easily select either SIM when you are sending and select the right one when replying etc.
[MENTION=398245]LeeDroid[/MENTION] was going to put it in his Tweaks but clearly forgot ;)
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] idees:
so i should install ADB program at first...
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MelBurNe21:
Someone that has the U12+, can share the camera app. I would like to try on my U11 if it works the smooth zoom.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Myrmeko:
Well, jerryrigeverything made a video about the U11.

The edges actually flex to let you press on the pressure sensors that are placed underneath the metal.

That's why it also it snapped when he bent it too hard. The part where the pressure sensors are located is thinner and more flexible than the rest of the metal edge.

Anyway, nobody would ever bend a phone that hard unintentionally, so dont worry about breaking yours.

Still, you shouldnt sit on it. Just use your front pockets.

Any phone will probably break under the pressure of, like, i dunno, 60+kg.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
#Bendgate literally was because people are too careless with their devices, aka, back pockets.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Anon2016:
Edge sense uses strain guages. That means it is 100% detecting bending of the frame, but it's very sensitive so the amount of bending can and should be so low that its undetectable by human senses.

Edit to add that this doesn't mean the buttons use strain guages, I don't know how they work on this device yet.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Edge sense also on the buttons. Same tech.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Myrmeko:
Same as #pengate. They are too careless to put the pen the right way in.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] OGhoul:
I just got mine. My god, this this is beautiful. My jaw dropped when the plastic gave way to that translucent back. HTC is still the only Android OEM that can hit Apple levels of hardware design.

The screen is gorgeous (even if NEITHER of my screen protectors fit (one is too narrow, the other has a notch where one of the horns covers one front camera).

The buttons and Edge Sense seem fine to me. Those do feel like they're a linear actuator, however all other vibrations from the phone feel like a plain jane vibe motor. Needless to say, I'm confused about it, lol.

I'l have more feedback once my backup restores and I get the phone all set up.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shango22:
Is there no way to use the flash in portrait mode when using the back cameras?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
.... lol it works in both landscape and portrait just fine... can you show us somehow what exactly you mean?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shango22:
Obviously, not portrait camera orientation mode, portrait photo mode (bokeh mode).
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Yes in bokeh mode the flash gets disabled, at least for me as well. Has got to have something to do with how the tech works. Saw this on other smartphone brands as well.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Gandalforce:
I was watching YouTube in landscape and I noticed the Edge Sense causing the volume to go up by "twisting" the phone on the edges... ?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
My first power cycle, only halfway through but if the first half is any indication of the 2nd I think my battery life will be just fine. And I haven't tuned this baby up yet.

I'm not having any issues with the buttons but getting used to double tap for one handed use and the back fingerprint sensor is a bit of a chore.

It is a completely new design for those of us who are HTC fans so it will just take some getting used to.

And I don't pay attention to ole JerryRig. He rated the U11 as the most damageable phone of 2017 and mine is still in New condition.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Great cycle [MENTION=3795321]LibertyMonger[/MENTION],

just as my last two ones. But as I'm in the car a lot today. This weekend won't be in any kind representative.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
Yeah I ended up with over 6 hours SOT so I'm not believing the reviews that say 3.5 hours SOT lol.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Take this ;) quite heavy usage, with lots of browsing, Facebook, Instagram, videos watched, photos taken. Uploading/downloading stuff. If I use this phone and keep it uncharged overnight and use it again, it is same to the battery life my Huawei mate 10 pro had. At the moment active usage is a bit worse, but that's normal since our phone has a LCD QHD and a more powerful SoC.

In love with this phone. I probably could get 5/5.5h of screen on time with more total usage time. Best stats I had so far with this device. I can also reach 6 hours, maybe more but then with less total usage time of course
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
Can't complain about that! Nice
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
*EDIT I cannot get these pics to upload, maybe they are too big. I will have to figure it out.

***Edit guess XDA was having issues. Here's some pics I shot with my U12+. No special settings since I'm not too knowledgeable with photography.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 123kennet123:
Anyone used a skin With it? Does edge sense still work?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sev7en:
I got mine days ago and I am using it as 2nd phone (first I am with V40ThinQ). I miss the navigation via gesture as not on that native launcher. Did you have any solution already tested for that?

The gesture utility of XDA?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] donkeykong1:
Sorry to quote you so late, but those pictures are amazing!

Here's one I snapped yesterday, really impressed with colour acuracy and detail on such demanding picture. It was simple point and shoot method
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] EMJI79:
Try Fluid Navigation Gestures. It brings similar gestures than OP6 and is very smooth.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Czort666:
Some of mine...
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kixx22:
I have a question, can i get dark themes without doing root? I mean, for example Dark Swift for Substratum?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
[IMG="OTA"]https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1871/44497484912_f39c1587c1_c.jpg[/IMG]​

Hello everybody,

I created this thread so that we can share all information about HTC updates quickly and easily here in the forum.

I'm going to update version numbers as I read the information on this thread.

Regards

5m4r7ph0n36uru

Most recent:

WWE DUGL: 1.30.401.2 / Security-Patch: 01. September 2018

WWE UHL: 1.30.401.2 / Security-Patch: 01. September 2018

US Unlocked: 1.30.617.2 / Security-Patch: 01. September 2018

ASIA TW: 1.30.709.2 / Security-Patch: 01. September 2018

ASIA HK: 1.21.708.3 / Security-Patch: 01. June 2018

INDIA SEA: 1.30.400.2 / Security-Patch: 01. September 2018

RUS: 1.21.411.3 / Security-Patch: 01. June 2018

CHINA: 1.25.1405.3 / Security-Patch: 01. June 2018

ASIA JP: 1.30.454.2 / Security-Patch: 01. September 2018

HTC Android 9 Pie announcement:

Source: https://twitter.com/htc/status/1028000627794706432
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] hitmanhunt:
Well, can't wait for original rom for it. :D Good to check this thread. Thanks
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Will try to provide it as soon as I got hands on it mate. Maybe in a separate thread, as this is in fact regarding OTA updates.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Some news here.

The EMEA retail versions of the device will definitely be delivered with software version 1.15.401.4!
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mdxdave:
Security patch is really 2018-01-01? ?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Are you kidding me. 1.15.401.4 just got released to European demo units. And even 1.15.401.3 already had the 2018/03/01 patch level. Never post something that weird. Personal guess is that 1.15.401.4 ships with 2018/04/01 or 2018/05/01 security patch level.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mdxdave:
Got the information from here: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=76649142&postcount=14 ([ro.build.version.security_patch]: [2018-01-01])
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Will that's a unit running an older software as you'd know if you read his first post on it.

Here's what 1.15.401.3 said. Didn't see any device already running 1.15.401.4:
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] hitmanhunt:
Indeed my unit is on very old version.. My preproduction sample is very old with some differences compare to official versions. For example another color, another nonphysical buttons etc. It has no update since very long time ago. So people shouldn't worry about security patch.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Maybe you'd like to take a look at the spreadsheet linked in post 2. Could be the case that you might find something helpful there ;)
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] hitmanhunt:
Well, my phone is now usable! Thanks a lot!
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Greetings,

latest known software release versions have been added to the OP.

The current list reads as follows:
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Chinese variant is already receiving first OTA 1.15.1405.9. So let's hope there will be some more during the next weeks.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Emerald Core:
Anyone received June update yet ?
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
You know that it is to be released within the upcoming 2-3 weeks mate...

No chance that anyone got it yet.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mdxdave:
Twitter
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Update rolling out in Taiwan 1.21.709.3:

https://twitter.com/ChengmingAlpert/status/1016631336986169344?s=19

Updated the OP as well!
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] imaximuss:
Can you give us some details on this update? did you tryed it?

thank you!
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Well I'm currently using a WWE S-ON device, running 1.15.401.4, but there are some details to name:

- Edge Sense 2.0 and the buttons have been optimized under the hood for sure

- battery performance should be greatly improved, even though there seems to be some further optimizations that might be delivered with a follow up update.

- with respect to the camera the autozoom feature has been fully included, and low light camera performance is said to be better

- June 1st security patch has been included

... and a little bit more.
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] imaximuss:
Great, thank you! I'll waiting for this new upcoming update from htc :)))
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] oblivianz:
Just in time for my trip to Japan tomorrow! :)
[HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion] noomarsil:
What the hell is going on with Pie update for HTC's flagship phone? It's January and we don't have ANY informations about this update, even rumors. Is HTC dying for real?