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[Android Apps and Games] The.Night.King:
No, can't say its bad.

Actually dev said in op that if a users is privacy concerned, he should take a look at csagan's bromite.

I'm a bromite user but want to try kiwi. So I wanted to make sure whether kiwi has trackers & GMS dependency.

But I'm in no position to say its bad, I've full respect for the dev and his work.

GMS dependency means that the app relies of google services framework for some functionality.

But I'm not sure why 4 Facebook trackers are required.

Source of my info :

1. Search for kiwi in yalp store, you'll see dependencies.

2. Click on exodus privacy check you'll see 4 trackers.

https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/reports/13854/

Facebook trackers will definitely track your online activities, which is not cool. But it may be true that the exodus privacy report got outdated because it was last updated on Aug 16, 2018. Being a gapps-less & privacy concerned users I definitely don't want GMS dependency and fb trackers in my browser.

But let's wait for devs reply.

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Well, no one dares to laugh at the night king.:cool:
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
I'll find a way to kick FB out, if it saves a half a megabyte that's even better, keep in mind that the goal of FB Analytics is to count the number of active installs, that's it.

For removing GMS, as far as I know, the only Chromium-fork that does it is Unobtainium: https://gitlab.com/thermatk/Unobtainium -- which I can recommend you to take a look, but I am wondering if it breaks any functionalities or somehow has tried it and seen if it breaks anything ? :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Mhh no, you are right. I just have billions of things on my plate, and this one is relatively high.
[Android Apps and Games] b.roid:
any Facebook or Google stuff you can take out the better :good: :cool:
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
AGREED

+1
[Android Apps and Games] xmiseggs:
I totally agree, we don't want any tracker and if you can avoid anything google better. :good::good:
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
Does brave browser have these FB trackers and GMS dependency ?
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
GMS yes, and instead of FB analytics they use MixPanel:

https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/reports/7045/

https://github.com/brave/browser-android-tabs/commit/a016aade8f8333c822d00d62738a922671a52b85

they are writing their own tracking system, now you can see it's even their main commit activity :eek:
[Android Apps and Games] The.Night.King:
Thanks a lot.

I couldn't find any installable apk of unobtainium & I've never compiled an apk.

BTW how to know whether an app has GMS dependency? Only if its in play store, I can check using yalp store. Like say, I don't know whether bromite has dependency, so how'll I check?
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
This works for all apps, go to: http://www.javadecompilers.com/apk

put the APK you want to check here, then look at AndroidManifest.xml, if you see com.google.android.gms this means it integrates Google Play Services

or if you see in sources/ a folder "com" then a folder "google" then you know what it means
[Android Apps and Games] onliner:
That's weird.
[Android Apps and Games] Chlorophyll:
Brave vs kiwi which is better one in giving us security?

Pls reply
[Android Apps and Games] jerryn70:
Will be great if you look at this issue

https://github.com/kiwibrowser/android/issues/10
[Android Apps and Games] Emu:
I will join the choir and approve removing the Facebook analytics. I used Intra the other day and was puzzled why my phone was making so many connections to Facebook domains when I don't use any Facebook related apps and haven't logged into Facebook on my phone ever.
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
When holding backspace (delete) in the google search box it lags HUGELY.

Any1 else noticed this ?
[Android Apps and Games] kvevand63:
Yes and no. If you are referring to the search box in Kiwi, works fine on my device. However, when I access chrome://flags from Kiwi and use the search bar in flags, it lags a lot. Probably not a Kiwi related problem, at least on my device.
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
No i am referring to the actual search box on google.com
[Android Apps and Games] djcsurf:
Yep, that's part of the problem in which I posted about. No one else had posted about it. Maybe specific to certain installs!

I'm on Nougat 7.1.2 Pure Nexus rom using latest Gboard keyboard.
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
Im on galaxy s6

Android 7.0

Latest update

Oh and samsung keyboard
[Android Apps and Games] kvevand63:
I'm thinking specific installs also. I'm running Android 6.0.1 with Swiftkey. I tested with Chrome stable and Kiwi and have no lags with using Google search box on either one. Have you tried clearing cache and history on Kiwi? Or uninstall and reinstall Kiwi. You can now backup (export) your bookmarks and reinstall (import) them. Just remember to move the bookmarks.html file out of your Kiwi download folder before you uninstall Kiwi or it will be deleted. Move the file back to download folder after reinstall so you can import the bookmarks back to Kiwi.
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
There is no lag wen typing only wen deleting using the back space button and only in the google search box

1st time its a little slow then gets worse and worse each time u do it.

Almost like its running out of ram, it never did that with firefox though
[Android Apps and Games] dar_zen:
long press back for history. i noticed that the history and new tab button go up when you have a lot of steps to go back. i think ''full history'' should stay at the bottom. fantastic update
[Android Apps and Games] tanfidzularus:
It would have been nice if we can add custom search engine as default
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
You can, just go to the search engine and do one ir two searches and it will appear
[Android Apps and Games] tanfidzularus:
Got to say im impress with overall performance. Good work man
[Android Apps and Games] elocnix:
First things first. Thanks for your efforts in making this browser, arnaud42. It's flawless on my Wiko Pulp 4G (SoC MSM8916). :good:

Now, a few rants. :p

Unfortunately, trying to add Searx.me as a search engine doesn't work. Probably something related to proxies they're using. Otherwise, works just fine with DDGo, Qwant and Ecosia.

Considering privacy and all kind of tracking systems, I'm with others: less G#@$*e and FB.

BTW, fingers crossed for FB debloated build.

Maybe you could add an option to send anonymous usage data or to set different flags for those options that you need as a feedback, e.g. number of downloads etc. Optional is always better.

Thanks again and keep it up!
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Yep that's the plan.

For Searx, I'll take a look
[Android Apps and Games] tanfidzularus:
I mean in setting. As a default theres only google on it

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Sorry found it, my mistake :silly:
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Happy that it works :victory:
[Android Apps and Games] Moycano:
Dude, this is hands down the best experience I had with a mobile browser (period). After using it for about 24 hours I went to Google PlayStore to leave 5/5 stars.
[Android Apps and Games] Android450:
I'm still having issues with video previews overlapping wit other content like this example on the OnePlus forums [MENTION=9196003]arnaud42[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] tanfidzularus:
Sorry i spam alot,

is there any plan to add scroll button or some similar methods to quickly return to early/ top page?

And i notice that every time i press a link to open in a new tab, tab always open in back ground. An option to open it in foreground or immediately switch to new tab would be awesome.
[Android Apps and Games] Sheetzie03:
I agree it's awesome. I miss Google sync, can't lie, but that's not the devs fault. Bookmarking option was just added, other than Google sync, that was the missing feature for me. What a great experience.
[Android Apps and Games] b.roid:
not sure why you would want google sync? just use chrome if you want google experience.

i like to see kiwi stay independent of chrome/google :good:
[Android Apps and Games] treboR2Robert:
AGREED
[Android Apps and Games] ramping:
Do you guys find any workaround to have speed dial or bookmarks as home screen?

Is the only feature I miss.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] ozyk100:
I don't know what it is related to, and I really, really love this browser but I simply can't "teach" it to give me relevant news in home tab that are based on my previous searches, visited sites and news... Is that something that is dependent on Google search history and sync or is it something that can be implemented or fixed totally independently and is not linked to Google? It keeps giving me news from 'News India' 'Forbes' 'YouTube' and totally unrelated sites... Can someone please educate me on this problem?

I posted about this some time ago, and have been patiently waiting for update hopping that it would get fixed but problem still persists... I'm from Croatia, and while I don't visit sites from my country I really don't need or want news from India or something unrelated to my interests...

I would really like some help or at least clarification on this but I will keep waiting patiently for solution (if it's possible)!
[Android Apps and Games] Tomatot-:
Thank you for your last update. It's really awesome and exciting. Your features are very relevant and useful. It's a pleasure to surf the web with this app. Thanks again, and keep it up :D
[Android Apps and Games] teostar:
Great update. Just 1 suggestion; can u make the speed dial links occupy the lower half of the page when news suggestions are disabled? This would make this the best one handed browser.
[Android Apps and Games] Gero71:
I see that it works for Bing and others, but unfortunately not for startpage.com :(

Been testing Kiwi now for 2 weeks en comparing with Brave, and must say you did a really great job.

I had the same question (and some more after testing Kiwi), just search this tread. Most common questions are already answered by the dev (and other users).
[Android Apps and Games] CubaoX:
[MENTION=3956128]Gero71[/MENTION]

I posted that link before:

https://support.startpage.com/index...page-the-default-search-on-chrome-for-android

You can add Starpage that way.
[Android Apps and Games] Gero71:
For some reason startpage.com will not appear in my settings. I tried that trick many times now.
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
I'll reach to startpage and ping you. When this is happening it means that the search engine is not detected properly (like the opensearch tag is not put properly).

I'll let you know soon,
[Android Apps and Games] CubaoX:
Strange, it works for me.
[Android Apps and Games] maze00:
Realy a great browser ! Thank you very much. One question. Is there a way to have a button for the bookmarks on the top bar or accessible with a swipe option ?

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And maybe a possibility to erase the browserhistory on exit ?
[Android Apps and Games] kvevand63:
Look at this in chrome:/flags: #simplified-ntp.

Enable this and buttons will appear for bookmarks and downloads under the search bar on the new tab page. Its not on the main bar at the top but close. Cant clear history on exit, but in Kiwi/settings/privacy, there is an option to close all tabs on exit. Hope this helps.
[Android Apps and Games] maze00:
Thank you very much. Maybe it will be available in the future.
[Android Apps and Games] sedan206:
excellent, very sorry that it is not displayed below, i have to constantly pull your finger up

it would be cool if the panel was moved down

Sorry for my bad English, i from Russia
[Android Apps and Games] Tomatot-:
If I may I would have a tiny suggestion:

Just add a box to tick for the night mode, exactly like they exist for ads and desktop site. It would be more coherent and offer a better visibility. But that's not a big deal obviously. :)
[Android Apps and Games] bejunk:
Cant enable normal tabs or swipe up url bar

Im on Lineage 16.0 (Pie), on an old phone (Moto G2, 1gb of RAM only). However it shows me the simplyfied tab view & swipe up from url bar not works... :(

Also there's no switch in settings to force enable/disable the tab view (ive seen that in changelog) Anyone has an idea or maybe thers an flag i can enable?

I have root, so ive looked for the "low_ram"-config in build.prop & default.prop etc, its not there...

peace :)
[Android Apps and Games] :
You are right about the tab switcher, it's a low memory problem. People with phones of 3-4GB RAM.

Swipe is not from url bar, but the tab button. Swipe up from Tab button summons the tab switcher.
[Android Apps and Games] kvevand63:
1. Look here: Kiwi/settings/accessibility. At the bottom you will see the toggle for the tab view setting. Even if you set the toggle for simplified view, the swipe up feature will default the tab view to scroll.

2. The only flag I know of for tab switcher is this one: #enable-horizontal-tab-switcher.

3. Haven't played with build.prop in a while but back on Android 4.4.4 and 5.0, I have added low_ram config to build.prop and it did work. Not sure about Pie but you could search XDA for build.prop mods for Pie.

Hope this helps you somewhat.
[Android Apps and Games] bejunk:
Hey, thanks for your tipps, but sadly they dont work...

The toogle for the tabs is there after updating to newest build, but it just has no effect (restarted the app of course). The Swipe up feature dont works at all...

2. I know that too, but i would prefer the normal style.

3. No, you've got me wrong. I know from previous iterations of Android that having this flag, removes the classic tab switcher and forces the simplyfied one. Thats why i mentioned it. I didnt touch my build.prop, i just look there if i may have this flag... (i dont have..)

btw, tried Chrome Canary and its the same with that tabswitcher

hmm
[Android Apps and Games] MiliWanili:
Updated to latest version and same bugs as before still occur: touch register above your finger sometimes, some websites show the "show simplified view" message at the bottom.
[Android Apps and Games] jianwen03:
Can you fix / allow me to disable Chrome Modern Design under chrome://flags ? Not a fan of how blinding the new ui looks & night mode causes some text to be unreadable.

Great browser other than the tab switching animations are too fast/jerky.
[Android Apps and Games] dceamit46:
will there be support for chrome web extension ?

much needed
[Android Apps and Games] hovnonium:
When i open link eg in messenger which points to www.facebook.com it doesnt transform that link to www.m.facebook.com. can this be optional/forced in setting maybe?
[Android Apps and Games] dceamit46:
1.Nano ad block (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nano-adblocker/gabbbocakeomblphkmmnoamkioajlkfo?hl=en )

2. tampermonkey ( https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo?hl=en )

using script - https://adsbypasser.github.io/

(edit - added the script link )

at least add this ? to support
[Android Apps and Games] xmiseggs:
Sorry but I do not understand, why "Nano Adblocker", Kiwi already includes an adblocker, also Nano is based on "Adblocker Origin", is not the latter better?
[Android Apps and Games] dceamit46:
some time many things are to be blocked at personal level that may be needed for some other.
[Android Apps and Games] BonnyBedlamBoy:
hold your fingertip on a related link and choose to open in external application. was already mentioned within this thread btw.
[Android Apps and Games] jiraffa:
Despite of being announced as a light browser, i notice that kiwi browser uses more RAM memory than Chrome( currently i have tons of bookmark in chrome).

With the same page open:

KIWI: 225 mb

CHROME: 137 mb
[Android Apps and Games] 283fabio:
Depends on the smartphone
[Android Apps and Games] matrixisreal:
not used RAM is wasted ram. So this means kiwi does have performance improvements
[Android Apps and Games] matrixisreal:
I would love the ability to show bookmarks instead of the recent visited sites on the new tab page
[Android Apps and Games] kvevand63:
Enable this in chrome flags: #simplified-ntp.

It wont show you an itemized bookmarks list, but you will have a bookmarks button on the NTP.
[Android Apps and Games] matrixisreal:
it works, but sadly the button is black (on black background) in night mode.
[Android Apps and Games] sedan206:
I have a new idea, and I think that is very useful for ease of use of the browser,

what do you think ? How do you like the idea? I'd love to see this

.

Currently, this panel is displayed at the top (chrome://flags: #simplified-ntp - ENABLED), on the right is download button, useless button, need a recent tabs button.. this innovation will make the work in the browser very convenient
[Android Apps and Games] nixie2121:
love this browser, only issue I have is sometimes a web page comes up completely blank. does not happen in other browsers, do you know how I can correct this? thanks so much for your work!
[Android Apps and Games] joakimbo:
Just turn off hide annoying ads for that page.
[Android Apps and Games] gabrielss:
This would be great!
[Android Apps and Games] :
That's because of the in built adblocker and cosmetic filtering. If chrome were to include an Adblocker chrome too will use more memory.

Nevertheless it's still marginally faster than chrome for me. :D
[Android Apps and Games] jiraffa:
https://topjugando.com/clash-royale/bandida/

I am discovering this new and great browser...and i meet some problems to play video to full screen mode. I attach link above to be checked since when i try to play it in full screen mode...screen comes completely black
[Android Apps and Games] hovnonium:
Btw i want to open link in messenger app, it points tonthis browser but not a mobile link......
[Android Apps and Games] Android450:
Working here
[Android Apps and Games] jiraffa:
Here too...but i have problem in full screen mode....screen tuns completely back,but sound keep on working

What kiwi version are you using?
[Android Apps and Games] Android450:
Okay, now I see what you meant. I'm on the latest version
[Android Apps and Games] Emu:
Can we get a undo closed tabs button?

I know Recent tabs exists but

1) It opens past tabs in the same tab and you can no longer go back

2) It takes too many steps to reopen a closed tab in a new tab.

3) Recent tabs is redundant when we already have History.

Same applies to copy image url.

Right now we have to open the image in a new tab then select the address in the omnibox then copy the url. But many image hosting sites redirect you to their full layout and you can't even click on the image anymore! Please please consider bringing back Copy Image URL.

Both of these made sense. Google is making so many stupid design decisions lately for no good reason.
[Android Apps and Games] █████:
please make it possible to install the pre-release from your git reposity. The Installation fails if I try it now. I don't care if it is another Installation or if it Overrides the current Playstore version
[Android Apps and Games] BonnyBedlamBoy:
you have to install the public release from the reposity to install future pre-releases from there.
[Android Apps and Games] :
Reddit..What's the suspicious dns requests?
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
All detailed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/androidapp...kiwi_duckduck_go_which_is_the_better/e7nf5wc/

If you block the queries, no suggest, no adblock.

I could bundle the adblock list (it would make the APK bigger), but not suggest for sure.
[Android Apps and Games] vipinaggar:
Are you planning for extensions support
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
yes, user scripts first, then extensions
[Android Apps and Games] Emu:
Can you please support the latest Unicode for emojis? Emoji 11

Kiwi Browser vs Cake Browser (any webview browser)
[Android Apps and Games] sedan206:
you offer and ship the author useless functions

We are waiting the edited bookmarks, and you are interested in absolutely unnecessary emoticons, just like children
[Android Apps and Games] Emu:
lol look at this guy. My suggestion is extremely helpful for anyone who uses the browser to communicate on social media. Nobody cares about syncing bookmarks like a grandpa. If you want Chrome-like features, use Chrome. I think this browser is all about being BETTER than Chrome so yes, it should be steps ahead and cutting edge, not trying to chase after legacy features. And System Webview of the same version renders emojis properly so this is actually something that is broken and visible. When you browse and look at boxes with X marks, you ask yourself what is wrong with your browser and you want to uninstall. Nobody has ever uninstalled a browser over bookmark features. My request is about fixing a bug. Your request is about adding a feature. If you have a brain you understand that one has priority over the other unless you're a Windows 10 developer. lmao
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
Yes, today
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
The thing is, if it would take me several hours I wouldn't do it because it's very low impact.

In this specific case, I know that to get support for Unicode 11.0 all I need to do is to update a library called ICU ( http://site.icu-project.org/home )

Since it's a small task (I need only to pull the new ICU repo and recompile) and it may bring other improvements (like perf or binary size) then I do it :)
[Android Apps and Games] █████:
can you share some Insights? I am very interested in your current ToDo List. Whats next, what are your plans..?

And also: how can I send you my pocketmoney? After you added user scripts I need a way to send you some love ?

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can you share some Insights? I am very interested in your current ToDo List. Whats next, what are your plans..?

And also: how can I send you my pocketmoney? After you added user scripts I need a way to send you some love ?
[Android Apps and Games] ssaikiran:
Hey dev... First of all I should appreciate your great work... I'm loving your browser...thank you!!

I just have a question..why is the browser not updated to latest chromium builds as OP says it's built on latest Chrome Canary build??
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
I'd rather squeeze the pocket money of the big corporations (for Google for example it'd be nothing)

After the today's (upcoming) release, the main things will be to do bug fixes (there is some flickering in the UI or glitches in night mode, and quite a few adblock fixes to do) and implement bookmarks to the homepage, then likely user scripts.

We talk and discuss the priorities on Discord almost everyday so they are still changing and you are welcome if you want to challenge them.
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
I need to update the original post. You're totally correct, that was the plan (this is why also +/- the name Kiwi/Canary :laugh: ) but in practice, the latest Canary has some serious stuttering issues and performance regressions since Canary 70.

So I went with a full fork and I am backporting functionalities from Canary (ex: long-press to get History).

I may regret the decision one day, but so far, I feel so much better (as a user) than following the latest bleeding-edge.
[Android Apps and Games] arnaud42:
I wrote a partial fix, it's almost working in the version that gets released today. The full fix should come next release.
[Android Apps and Games] jiraffa:
Greats news! Can i download this new version? Where?

Thx again for your support