yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Michuuuu:
hello, what is the battery life on this rom?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] palmbeach05:
Reasonable, and depends on how much you use it in a day
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] A.Rahman96:
I have a question I know it may be unusual

I installed the SEP8.5-Lite ROM, and I want to get the Screen recording feature from SEPerience-Rom to work in my SEP8.5-Lite

so I pushed /other/ssr/ScreenRecorder to /system/priv-app/ and now it appears in the settings, but now I need the Quick Settings Tile for it to actually work, how can I grab it from SEPeriience-ROM.zip as I did with ScreenRecorder app?

EDIT: I pushed Seperience:/system/bin/screenrecord to /system/bin and I was able to successfully record the screen via terminal.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Stern Marak:
S secure not working on j500f.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] ZeroGlitch:
It will never work on rooted phones
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] prototype74:
Don't bother to do that. It might break some features on lite ROM. Rather download an app or use adb record.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] ashish1989:
Does this rom has adoptable storage feature for J5 2015
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] amirizad_7436:
Not by default
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] ashish1989:
How to enable it then permanently
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] palmbeach05:
By finding the flashable zip available here on xda?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] ashish1989:
Are you using it, if yes, have you encountered any problem so far?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] palmbeach05:
I have used it, yes. I have had no problem with the rom, but i don't use adoptable storage
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] amirizad_7436:
You know man i hanging out with this low storage problem but didn't find any great things on adaptive storage

It some times completely stuck and maybe hurt yoir sd(that was exactly happened to me and i had to change my sd)

How ever best way is to use apps that move obb to sd with partitioning of sd or install apps on it

I again prefer to install apps on internal storage you know

It's enough
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] ashish1989:
You are right, some users have reported the same about adoptable storage, it stops working randomly

The obb to sd method with partitioning of sd card you are speaking about does the whatsapp folder can be moved or created in sd card as I think it is the only folder which takes maximum space
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] ashish1989:
Using the rom since many hours, didn't find any problem at all, the rom is smooth, have decent battery life

My only concern is my low internal memory of phone which is 8gb

Does anybody have any solution for it, specially the whatsapp folder which will take maximum space in future and will fill the internal memory of my phone

Otherwise the phone is working like charm
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Michuuuu:
Always on Display work?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] amirizad_7436:
this rom does not have this ability

use odyysey note 8 for that
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] anur@g:
You can flash a zip and you'll get that feature
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] ashish1989:
Well I think I will nlt need that now, as xinternalsd xposed module resolved my issue, my whatsapp folder is now on sd card and the phone will not get storage problem in future
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] anur@g:
Which xposed you're using? Edxposed? Or rovo89's xposed?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] ashish1989:
Rovo89's xposed
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] palmbeach05:
Edxposed is for 9 and 10, maybe 8 as well. I forget offhand
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] ashish1989:
For 9 and 10
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] anur@g:
Yes I've read that github page. Developer recommends rovo89's xposed for Android versions below pie. But i was just asking out of curiosity whether that works in nougat ☺️ Biggest advantage is that It passes safetynet.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] come2kashi:
I'm using this rom in j500g. It is working perfect but one issue. My OTG is not working. If there is any solution plz tell me. I have checked in other roms & otg is working.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] palmbeach05:
otg for usb backup included since around v3 release from what i can see
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] come2kashi:
Ok then how to enable this option and where it is present ?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] amirizad_7436:
At aroma installation
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] come2kashi:
Ok got it Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Michuuuu:
how to delete search bar from switch bar?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] amirizad_7436:
Reflash the rom and untick it on aroma installation
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] A.Rahman96:
How can we integrate system apps updates into system on TW ROMs? Titanium backup and link2sd don't work l
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] palmbeach05:
Magisk module. Systemizer
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] A.Rahman96:
This module is really nice thank you, but it doesn't work on updated system apps, I get error message "app exists"
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Graka27:
Is it possible set SD Card as Internal Storage in this ROM? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Graka27:
How? It would be great if you can help me :D

I can't find format as internal storage options in settings
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] palmbeach05:
Adoptable storage zip here on xda
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Graka27:
Thank you so much, It works.

Well, It won't at the first time since I had error 1 in twrp. After downgrade the twrp its installed succesfully. :D
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] leduardocosta:
Hello, I have a j500m. Everything works fine. However the sound in the ear speaker volume is very low. I already reset the system and reinstalled and nothing to solve. The first time it was fine. Can you tell me where the audio files are for me to take a look at?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] VovoKrall:
It's REALLY smooth, way more than LOS 17.1, but I really disliked its... well, Samsung interface, so I returned to LOS.

But congratulations on this amazing work. I never thought my J5 would run so buttery smooth.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] prototype74:
In such cases it could be possible that a CSC feature is causing this issue. Try to remove CscFeature_Audio_ConfigCallVolumeSteps from /system/omc/customcsc.xml

Ok lol, thanks for you opinion😂
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] muhammadabdullahnazir6:
Best ROM ever!
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] sprylog1:
why are some apps missing from the playstore, in the stock rom they're all there, the netflix app and other apps i use are not available on play store in this rom
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] muhammadabdullahnazir6:
All apps are still there for me.

Try re-installing the ROM or Install those apps from Google chrome
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] sprylog1:
Thx i got it working after re-installing and clearing play store cache and data and updating worked and got the apps back on play store
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] hasangillani66:
Ok, Guys, I Have Tested Many Roms For My J5(J500H), But Found This Rom To Be The Best. Its Butter Like Smooth and Has Best Battery Life. It Gives Me The Best Samsung Experience Of All The Roms On XDA.

As Far As The Adoptable Storage Is Concerned, I Recommend You All To Flast This File (Attached Zip File) . You Can Get Adoptable Storage Without Magisk Manager Or Supersu.

By The Way, Thank You So Much @prototype74 :love::love: For Developing This Magnicifent Rom For Our J5. Everything Work Fine In This Rom With Zero Bugs. I Recommend Everyone On XDA To Flash This Rom On Your J5 2015 Because This Is The Best. By The Way, I An Using 32 GB Class 10 SD Card For Better Performance.

And Also If Anyone Wants This Theme Which I Am Using I Will Give The APK Below Install It And Then Apply The Theme From Galaxy Themes ;)
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Cristianhenrique13:
I installed a rom and I have kernel version 1.6 can I install kernel 2.0 on this rom ? is my mobile is a j500m?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] come2kashi:
During whatsapp calls observed volume dropped dramatically and not hearable properly. While on calling with sim volume is ok. Please reply any solution???
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Ghostman09:
The ROM actually runs great.But I have a problem with my J500FN aka j5nlte to which I can not find a solution. I have an Internet Radio App (Antenne Niedersachsen) ... whenever I run this, and then turn off the display. Then after a few minutes, the internet radio (via Wifi) is always terminated. So only the sound goes away. If I then only turn the display back on, then the sound also comes back immediately. I don't even have to enter my PIN. I have tried several energy saving options to turn off. But that all helped nothing. I had also turned off this battery manager from Samsung completely. So that he should not save power. But still does not help. Could anyone observe something similar? And does anyone have any ideas? Actually, I would otherwise be super happy with the ROM. Also because it is the only one where VoLTE and VoWifi works. But that with the Internet radio is for me an exclusion option. I'm currently using the Lineage OS 18.1 which also runs great, but doesn't have this problem. But there is no VolWifi... which is a pity. Thank you!
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] shrecker909:
does things like snapchat and instagram and telegram and camera and does sim work for j500h because i downloaded android 12 rom and nothing work
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] prototype74:
You can install QuasarKernel 2.0 but according to some reports in the past time it causes issues on J5 2015. Rather stick with QuasarKernel 1.6

It might be an issue from WhatsApp side. If the problem still persists, try to remove the CSC config "CscFeature_Audio_ConfigCallVolumeSteps" from /system/omc/customcsc.xml

The app you use probably gets put to sleep. To prevent that, add your app to device maintenance app > battery > unmonitored apps

The Known bugs and Issues section at OP is pretty empty, in case you didn't read it.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Ghostman09:
Hey, i tried that. And added tha app to unmonitored apps.. but it doesn't help....this was the first thing i tried.

Maybe other idea?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Ghostman09:
Okay. On the same page there is a button called "Battery consumption" if you click there and then on the three dots there is a menu item "Optimize battery consumption" ... there I then set the switch to not optimized for this app. Now it seems to work.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] GalaxyA51user:
Liking it... installed last night on my J5 J500F of my dad, he liked just like me😁
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] robrazil:
Hi.

I installed it in my GALAXY J5 SM-J500M_DS and formated SD card as internal storage to expand the 16GB of it but when I try clear the cache or data of an app installed in SD card, the storage information shown always as "calculating..." and when I click on "calculating..." text the CONFIG app crash and close. This problem not happen with apps installed in internal storage like the system apps.

I would like to know if have a solution for that or any app that I get to clean the cache or data without being by the config app native of samsung.

Thank you for any help.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] hasangillani66:
use apps2sd application as root user
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] robrazil:
Thank you for answering me.

I know the apps2sd app but the rom is not rooted.

Is there any app looks like for rom not rooted ?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
did you encounter the "custom binary blocked by frp" problem? And what did you do so that it does not appear after the reboot? Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] hasangillani66:
nope i have never encountered this issue
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] hasangillani66:
it only occurs if you are trying to factory reset a samsung mobile with its bootloader in locked state [in developer options oem unlocking is turned off] then you will encounter this issue. and it could be repaired through ufi box with disassembling it
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
it is a pity that there is no face unlock function :/
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
This rom doesn't support AOD, Does anybody know how to add it?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] GalaxyA51user:
There may be modded versions. You can search XDA or just download an 3rd party app from Play Store
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
People, I was able to add the AOD function, but there is a problem, the program gives an error. Someone wants to help me? :)))
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
Now i am trying to enable FaceUnlock function...
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] GalaxyA51user:
How did you installed? Need to try on J5 & A3 of 2015🤔
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
root rights are needed, (go to system/priv-app)) create a folder "AlwaysOnDisplay" and give permissions "rwxr-xr-x" add an apk to this folder and give it permissions "rw--r-r".
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
Then reboot yourdevice, you can see AOD on Lockscreen settings
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] GalaxyA51user:
Any way without root? On A3, touch screen is dead and can't command TWRP with mouse😐
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
after so many attempts, I was able to add the AOD feature.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] GalaxyA51user:
And it works? Great, you did replaced system/app?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
I im testing it. No system/priv-app
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
I have found some bugs
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
Add this apk file
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
Google Drive: Sign-in
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
after touching 2 times on display, the device reboots itself
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] GalaxyA51user:
The software probably not optimized for it :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] prototype74:
There are 3 reasons why Always On Display isn't included in the ROM which are:

- there is a 50% chance that using AOD will trigger a kernel panic and make your device to force a hard reboot (reboot at Samsung Galaxy J5 Screen) for any reason

- the msm8916 series doesn't have display mdnie (iirc) and doze drivers which means using AOD will drain your battery a lot more than devices that natively support AOD. This is mainly caused because the CPU cannot enter deep sleep due to active AOD

- even if the J5 has an AMOLED display, it doesn't mean it's optimized for AOD

So if you already installed/sideloaded AOD in any way, use it at your own risk.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] GalaxyA51user:
It wont work even on A300FU then? Anyways, didnt needed much:confused:
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] MrMetra:
Hi, the microfone isn't

working any solution? (J500M)
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] prototype74:
I didn't say AOD won't work, I just mean you guys have to expect these limitations and issues when using AOD

By that amount of information about your issue I wouldn't expect a solution at all. Please share a logcat instead.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Nik1239:
greetings developer

first of all the rom is great , fast and smouth , but i have some problems (i can live with them cause i use this phone for gym but i would be even happier with them fixed)

i have the j500fn with 8 gigs of internal storage

i cant take photos or screenshots with stock cam app saying that i dont have enough space available (3.6 gigs are usable) and i havent installed any app or move some music in it yet. Also my sd card (patriot 64gb) dont get recognised from the rom even if i installed the rom from twrp with this one. When i tried to install another sd from gigastone with 16gb it says that i have to format it and when i start the format process it returns this error command '9 volume partition disk: 179,64 public' failed with 'null'

i used a lineage 16 (android 9) built before and twrp 3.6.1 (i installed 3.2.1

version with aroma support now to install this one as you said).

How can i fix it ? how can i provide you a proper logcat if its necessary to diagnose the problem?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] prototype74:
Honestly, 8GB aren't really enough for a ROM like this, especially if you did pick many bloatware/features in aroma installer. Android reserves internal storage for updates, caching etc. to ensure your device doesn't run out of memory. Remove features or apps you don't need then I guess you can take pics or screenshots again.

Regarding to your SD issue: I guess your SD slot is broken

This error message appears if the device was able to detect the SD Card but wasn't able to read it. Faulty pins might cause this issue. Try to mount your SD Card in TWRP Recovery. If it fails there too, it's a hardware issue from your device as described before.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Nik1239:
Well , I think something isn't working properly with this ROM because I installed the lite version and works fine even with the same sd card.

I didn't picked any bloatware or features in aroma installer at both roms.

I'm happy with the lite version and I will stick with it as it's fast enough with crappy cpu for my usage. I would like to try the non lite one too but I can't live without SD card

Thanks for the roms anyways , keep up the good work 👍
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] alisadty:
Brother, my phone is J5

J500H is like you
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] alisadty:
Hello, install this file in TWRP, then reboot, and when the phone turns on, go to the phone, set the password, then go to the Smart Loke section, there is a section that activates after locking the screen with a face like this.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] kamuisi:
hmm, i have installed it from the morning but it seem not work man. My phone is J500H. Sorry about my english
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] alisadty:
Hello brother, I think it works, but sometimes it has problems

Sometimes I install it and it works

Sometimes it doesn't work

In fact, you must have a custom ROM port on Android 7, just like the A8 custom ROM port
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] kamuisi:
ok bro
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] MauriJ2001:
Same here with a J500M but is not frequent

You can still using it or change it to aosp (or use the J2 port)
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
Good afternoon, people. Today I was able to add the "Secure Folder" feature . If anyone wants , tell me.
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] alisadty:
Hello brother, I also want to know, tell me what I should do
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Saadig:
I'm still working on it because sometimes the application crashes
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] anotherphonker:
How to remove the search bar (samsung finder) in the quick panel?
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] prototype74:
Does it really bother you? If yes, get APKTool from here, there you will also find a full documentation how to de-/compile APKs.

If you're familiar with APKTool, feel free to follow these easy steps to remove the search bar:

Decompile SystemUI.apk

Locate to SystemUI.apk/smali/com/android/systemui/SystemUIRune.smali and find the following line:

sput-boolean v2, Lcom/android/systemui/SystemUIRune;->SUPPORT_S_FINDER_QS_BAR:Z

Replace v2 with v0:

sput-boolean v0, Lcom/android/systemui/SystemUIRune;->SUPPORT_S_FINDER_QS_BAR:Z

Recompile SystemUI.apk and push it to /system/priv-app and set the permission to 0644.

Enjoy a seach bar free quick panel!
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] k0w4rD:
Hi, i would like to download this rom but i dont know what aroma installer is. Currently i have installed TWRP 3.3.1-0, is that recovery enough or do i have to install another one? If so, which one?

Thanksss
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] alisadty:
https://xdaforums.com/t/official-recovery-twrp-3-5-2_9-for-galaxy-j5-2015.3946500/

Install this twrp version
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] k0w4rD:
ok thanks, already installed and working perfect :)
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Sukron23:
Hi, now there is a newer version of TWRP

twrp-3.7.0_9-0, is there no problem if I install it?

Download TWRP for j5lte

Download TWRP Open Recovery for j5lte

eu.dl.twrp.me
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] alisadty:
No problem
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Sukron23:
Hello everyone, I have installed this SEPerience-ROM A8 2018 v5.0 ROM on Galaxy J500G and it is almost working perfectly. The ROM runs very smoothly. I have a question, how to make the icons on the homescreen bigger?

This icon is even smaller than the app drawer icons. I have chosen 320 as the default DPI, I even reinstalled this ROM (without wiping data) and chose 360 DPI but the icons on the homescreen still remain small. If I change it manually in developer option, the icons in the status bar also get bigger, which is not what I want.

And I found a bug, switching 4G cellular data from SIM 2 to SIM 1 or reverse didn't work properly. If SIM 2 is in the LTE/3G/2G position then SIM 1 is automatically 2G Only, I tried switching SIM 1 to LTE/3G/2G but it doesn't work, it's still only 2G and SIM 2 becomes 3G/2G. If possible there will be an update.zip to solve this bug, that would be great. Thank you in advance
[Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] prototype74:
Set the home screen grid to 4x4

This is not a bug but a modem side limitation. If I remember correctly only the first SIM can use LTE/3G/2G whereas the second SIM can only operate in 2G. So, something like dual LTE isn't possible on msm8916, at least not on Samsung devices powered with msm8916.

There won't be an update.zip. This ROM will remain EOL forever.