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[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] ooemir:
1- device= bla-l29

2- c636 137

3- i use 2 weak c636 137 i use hwota update to 138 and now brick

4- rebrand and update only hwota for mate 10

5- my orjinal phone bla-al00

6- only use hwota update c636 138 and now brick my phone. Now my phone Black Scren and pc device manager see usb ser.

I use dc phonix al00 board software but not install bootloader.

http://www.imgim.com/68incib2496565.jpg
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] k4fari:
DC Phoenix or HDE Flasher is used to flash the Board Firmware. But in the case of mate 10 with latest firmware bricked phones, DC Phoenix and HDE Flasher are not capable to flash the Board Firmware even the phone is detected as HUAWEI USB COM 1.0 . So for all those who are trying to install the latest and pre-release builds should avoid this to let their phones alive.

PS: The developers should look into the latest firmware what is causing hard bricks.

Regards
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
This means that Phoenix can't use its "backdoor" anymore.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] k4fari:
When phone is bricked DC flashes in factory mode (USB COM 1.0) while backdoor is used in fastboot mode.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
This means USB COM 1.0 is useless without actually connecting the test points, which unfortunately are not available for Mate 10.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
1- bla-l29

2- c636 142

3- /////////c432 142///////////

4- update packing instally %50 closed on screen

5- my orjinal phone bla-l29 so rebrand

6- device manager see usb ser.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] k4fari:
No, you are not getting the point. The hard bricked phones having no connectivity with Pc need test points, i.e to detect phone as Huawei USB Com 1.0 known as Factory Mode.

HUAWEI Phones have 3 flashing modes: i.e., 1)Fastboot mode, 2) Upgrade Mode (by pressing vol +, vol- and pluging in usb cable), and 3) Factory Mode (Usb Com 1.0).

To flash board firmware phone must be detected in any of three modes . The phone which is already detected and visible as USB SER in Pc doesn't need any test points. USB SER drivers are available to put phone in USB Com 1.0 (factory mode).

The main issue is flashing board firmware as new firmware installation via HWOTA or other HrUpdater are hard bricking the phones. Even though the phone is detect-able as Factory Mode without disassembly and test points , DC Phoenix is unable to flash board firmware.

Hope many things and points are now clear to many of the readers.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] ooemir:
did anyone solve the black screen problem ? (hard bric)

how long will we wait :(
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] royhanks3:
In all honesty, I do not think we'll be able to solve this issue on our own. The latest updates are seemingly removing the bootloader, or access to it which means we currently don't have the necessary tools to flash board software to the device. More people need to either complain or contact Huawei so we can all get this solved as a community.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
I know how Phoenix work, that's why i said that maybe you still need to actually connect test points. The fact that USB Com is available without test points doesn't mean you will be able to flash the board software.And the fact that it doesn't work with kirin970 proves it.

Clearly, these bricks are not hardware failures so if Phoenix cannot flash it in USB Com mode, makes me think that:

1) Test points are needed no matter the port is showing or not

2) Something is wrong with GPT

3) Kirin970 works differently and Phoenix doesn't work in USB Com mode

These are only speculations, obviously.

What Phoenix guys told you when you talked to them, they have any idea why their tool fails?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
And regarding to the purpose of this thread, so far my opinion is that the culprits are the firmwares from 16/04 , no the "noxloader" ones. Here's my examples based on the info I've got about these bricks.

1) B132C636 - > B134(noxloader) C636 - > B135 C636 = no brick

2) B132C636 - > B134C636 (16/04)-> B135 C636 = brick

3)B132636 - > B134C636 (16/04) - > B134(noxloader) C636 = brick

So far the only common point (beside C636 brand) is that all those that bricked, at some point they updated to a firmware from 16/04/2018.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] k4fari:
The support team of Phoenix has clearly said that they dont know whats the issue with their tool and can not give any time frame to make Phoenix working with Mate 10 Board Firmware. Further more , i was on C636B312, i updated to B134 noxloader , Phone was showing NRD90-test , i downgraded to B132 and phone gone dead (black screen i.e USB SER)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] okbakaka:
Guys advise please
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Why don't you check by yourself using the tool that you find here - > https://xdaforums.com/mate-10/how-to/beware-bla-l29c432b147-t3817241 < - also read that thread and decide yourself
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] okbakaka:
Thx sorry if i bothered you, the thread is related to c423b147 i thought is not relevant i will check the tool
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
No problem, just read that thread carefully, so you better understand eventual risks, then it's up to you. [emoji6]
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] ante0:
I just renamed title rather than making a new thread. But I can add (Any FW) to title or something :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] ChaseRxx:
Good one! Buddy
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Just to get something clear as day.. If I don't flash anything and don't root and just wait for the official OTA to come to my phone, I have 0% chance of brick right? (or close to 0% as possible)...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
As long as you only flash official OTAs, yes, you are pretty safe from bricks.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fixarik:
where is huawei mate 10 test point?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] royhanks3:
It hasn't been discovered yet
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fixarik:
4pda.ru but not say. DC-Phoenix if I buy credits and can't flash, will they refund the money?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] salvo1278:
sorry I would like to ask a question, but is it so difficult to find this blessed testpoint?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
You are willing to test, eventually?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] salvo1278:
I'm sorry you have new info about the testpoint? in a few days I will have one in my hand !!!!!!!!!

https://ibb.co/d7XOZ9
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
Mate 10 test point
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
You mean ALP? Any proof or source?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
ALP...get my phone recognised by pc with usb com 1

Edit: might work for BLA too...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Nice! But i wonder if can be flashed successfully with Phoenix.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
I don't know yet..asked Valdemaras from DC-Unlocker site/forum and the his answer is not so positive....
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Hmm, that's bad news! I wonder what's the reason behind that statement.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
Today l will buy 3 days license HCU and try to flash board software with test point usb com 1.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
How to unlock FRP with no O.S. ?

Hi all,

Since installing XposedInstaller_3.1.5-Magisk.apk as outlined on page 1 of https://xdaforums.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268 (followed by the install of the framework) my BLA-L29 C636 has decided to run bootloops.

All attempts to recover have failed as somewhere along the line the Huawei gremlins re-locked the FRP and I didn't check / notice.

Now with no operable OS to get in to unlock it.....

Can't re-flash (anything)

Recently bought phone as BLA-L09 C34 (OPTUS bloat Australia). Rebranded and re flashed to BLA-L29 C636 LAST WEEK Have even run https://openkirin.net ROMs with success.

About to buy 15 credits with DC and have a go with DC_Phoenix

Any (other) thoughts to recover or remotely unlock the FRP?

Thanks
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Let us know, but most like it will fail because those boards are old and designed fir the xloader01. But i hope i'm wrong.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Which build do you have installed?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
BLA-L29 8.0.0.144(C636)

:(

?

Looking forward to any thoughts you may have

:)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
Good news!!! It works with test point usb com 1 and dc phoenix...my mate 10 ALP-L29 is back to life!!!

edit: with test point doesn't matter what kind of xloader you have...board software from dc-unlocker is 01 and l was on 02....
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Great news indeed! So the USB Serv mode, triggered by the xloader brick it's "fake", so it needs real test point.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Wow!?

You've got me at "test point usb com 1"..

Looks like I have some homework tomorrow.

Late here downunder

PS

Currently have a fail with DC Phoenix

Device found: GAB0217C01000203

IMEI: xxx blah

Build number: :BLA-L29 8.0.0.144(C636)

Product model: BLA-L29

Batery state: 6241mv

Device not supported

user accepted update not supported device

Extracting partition XLOADER...

Preparing file to write...

Writing XLOADER partition with file XLOADER

XLOADER partition UPDATE ...FAILED

Device not supported

18/10/2018 10:23:46 PM Writing device finished - INCOMPLETE

Have sent log as requested by DC, to DC.

More to come
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] ante0:
That's because you are on a firmware where fastboot is updated. It can't trigger the backdoor.

I guess you should be able to downgrade using testpoint...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
Pfff....l need NV partition for my phone(erased long time ago when l was trying everything to get it back to life)

To work ..... someone with the same phone as mine have to backup his phone NV partition and give it to me

Mine is ALP-L29
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] andre_ferreira:
https://pt.ifixit.com/Teardown/Huawei+Mate+10+Pro+Teardown/100096

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board Huawei Mate 10 Pro
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] ante0:
That's the wrong side.

Mate 10 and Pro look the same

IF now testpoint is the same on BLA and ALP.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Hi [MENTION=1803475]manager77[/MENTION] / all

Just lost 24Hrs with distractions..

Any pointers or links to Mate 10 teardowns and testpoint usage details?

DC-Unlocker have refunded. Dead end at this juncture. Do I need to use DC Phoenix (board software?) again once I've got to the testpoint?

Looking forward to hopefully not binning AU$750 (except maybe when I get it very wet with broken seals)

:)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Oops

Stupid question above given ifixit links and pictures.

About to jump in and teardown my BLA-L29 brick and hopefully flash via testpoint..

Any pointers to how to connect to pc via the testpoint?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
What do you mean?Connect it as you always did, the difference is that if the test point work, DC Phoenix will be able to flash.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] ante0:
Connect USB to phone from computer, short testpoint with ground.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
"short testpoint with ground"

Question answered. Thank you
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
Did you animate your Mate 10 pro with the test point?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Nope the only report was the one for ALP, so it's not confirmed yet for Mate 10 Pro.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
Is Mate 10 pro gonna be all right?

:crying::crying:
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Will let all know when I get there or fail in the next week or so.

Waiting on some needed tools to pull apart first
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
The tools are a hair dryer and guitar pick! ? And lot of patience.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Hi all / [MENTION=1803475]manager77[/MENTION] / [MENTION=2642882]Pretoriano80[/MENTION]

Update for my bricked BLA-L29 8.0.0.144(C636) that I've just opened:

When earthing the test point (at X or Y or another part of chassis - see pics) phone boots if it is powered-off or reboots if it is powered-on (eg in fastboot mode)

Ready to follow https://www.dc-unlocker.com/flash-bricked-huawei-phones-in-huawei-1-mode.

(Installed drivers as linked/downloaded)

Q: How do I get phone into ready state with Huawei USB COM 1.0 port up given above?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
After making the test point, what version did you flash from dc phoenix?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Install this driver manually - > http://www.mediafire.com/file/ob6ii95ybktzb5n/HUAWEI_USB_COM_1.0_driver.zip .

Then it should be recognised as COM1.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
When I connect my device to the computer, it looks like usb com 1.0. Do I need to install another driver?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
With test point?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
No. I never opened the back door. Will it detect new hardware after 'test point'? How do I install the drivers? Did you save your device?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Thanks. Have downloaded

Have attempted to install all inf(s) manually with only "hw_usbdev.inf" working without error

Have discovered if I connect USB with phone off/charging, hold Vol- down then ground testpoint, we get a boot to fastboot but I'm not seeing COM port

Real problem therefore is with boot when I ground testpoint. At what point should I have USB connected?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
As far as i can see from that previous post, test point seems to work, so you should be able to revive your Mate 10 Pro.

Install the driver directly from Device Manager, manually.

I didn't had to recover my device because i never bricked! ?

You have to figure that by yourself, i never used test point on Mate 10 Pro.

You should install the driver from Device Manager. Select that Qualcomm driver and update the driver, using the COM1 one.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Therein lies one of the problems

From https://www.dc-unlocker.com/DC-Phoenix-flash-repair-tutorial I'm getting the feeling that I should be using drivers for HiSilicon not Qualcomm... ?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Yes, you must use Hisilicon, not Qualcomm.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Haven't flashed - yet

Having trouble with the testpoint as mentioned AND possibly the drivers

Drivers might be sorted as outlined and downloaded in "Method 3" at https://www.dc-unlocker.com/DC-Phoenix-flash-repair-tutorial (NOTE - need HiSilicon NOT Qualcomm drivers). Follow "Huawei USB COM 1.0 port visible flashing GUIDE (HiSilicon phones)" link.

I'll let all know if/when I find my way to getting the phone up via the testpoint with Huawei USB COM 1.0 port visible
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
[youtube]rkpmygqHL-E[/youtube]
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Great find.

Now just need to get to step 0 first via/with testpoint :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Well, i know how to find my way around installing drivers, but that video might help you.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Thank you - It might - once I have the phone showing up via the testpoint (ie step 0)

:)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
[MENTION=2642882]Pretoriano80[/MENTION]

My friend said that the test point was made to show the phone on the usb com 1.0 port. My device is already seen as usb com 1.0 port. I just need the right program and the right board software ... I've been waiting for 4 months :)

'''''''''''2

25.10.2018 20:13:47 Starting to write device in FASTBOOT mode...

File to update: BLA-A09-BD_1.0.0.36_Board_Software_Android_8.0.0_EMUI_8.0.0_05022GPJ.dgtks

Device detected:

COM3: HUAWEI USB COM 1.0 (COM3)

Writing bootloader...

Writing BLA-A09-BD_1.0.0.36_Board_Software_Android_8.0.0_EMUI_8.0.0_05022GPJ_3.dtwork...

Error writing Bootloader

25.10.2018 20:14:21 Writing device finished - INCOMPLETE

'''''''''''2
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
You're a step in front of me friend.

Doesn't sound good if you're connected with COM 1 and you still can't proceed.

It sounds to me from what [MENTION=1803475]manager77[/MENTION] found, the whole point of the testpoint is to bypass the Xloader problem (Sounds like you have this problem)

If and when I get to a COM 1 connection via the testpoint, I will let you know what I find.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
He's not! That COM1 connection wasn't set by test point, it ended up like that because he hard bricked the device.

DC-Phoenix doesn't work in that case, even if it shows COM1 in device manager.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
That's what I was thinking but I wasn't 100% sure. Therefore agree. It makes sense.

No news at my end yet. Need time. Hopefully will find some over the week-end
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
I would start with uninstalling the "old" drivers and then try again with the COM1 drivers.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Done that. Confident on that front.

Problem is still boot on earthing the testpoint. Pro is soft-bricked and does bootloops.

Need to find a way to get it up via testpoint without a further boot with COM 1
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
Guys....let me explain:

Long time ago l bricked my ALP-L29 when l tried to flash android 8.1 over 8.0. I was able to use only black fastboot with no recovery, erecovery, download mode...nothing

I puchased dc phoenix and HCU license but without any hope. Every time l was trying to flash boardsoftware with dc-phoenix and sigmakey...device not supported!!!

After l have discovered testpoint for mate 10 l tried again with dc phoenix...and surprise ...my phone was coming back from death. This means flashing board software with testpoint overpass huawei new patch security
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
Where is the location of the test point in Mate 10 pro? Which test software and what version of dc phoenix did you use?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
I don't know if testpoint fot mate10 pro is the same with mate 10 not pro. For mate 10 not pro l have posted picture with testpoint. I used dc phoenix 62, last one.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
ALP-AL00A-BD_1.0.0.58_Board_Software_general_Android_8.0.0_EMUI_8.0.0_

Did you use this software?

Dc phoenix recently published. November 8th. But there is no new software for bla-l29 ... Does it work in Testpoint 'mate 10 pro?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
Guys..anyone with easy-firmware, gem-flash account can download from there this file :

ALP-AL00A-BD 1.0.0.58_Board Software_general_Android 8.0.0_EMUI 8.0.0_05022DUL.zip

It is a board software repacked as a zip file. I need to try something..

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Yep...this one works in testpoint for mate 10 not pro....
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
He has an ALP device, so how he would know where BLA's test point is located? You can either wait for someone to test the same point on BLA or just try it yourself.

His device was not completely bricked and Fastboot was still available, so results might be different with a hard-brick caused by flashing xloader01 on xloader02.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] henrysinn:
Hi [MENTION=1803475]manager77[/MENTION]

Great to hear from you and thanks for the reply but I think we have very crossed wires.

The situation with my Mate 10 Pro:

It's a soft brick. When you power it up normally it does bootloops. The OS doesn't start.

Can get to recovery (Can shutdown)

Can get to fastboot (Phone Unlocked FRP Locked. ) More at https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77907742&postcount=204

Trying to fix:

When I earth the testpoint it boots and hey-presto, it does bootloops.

As a result, there is no stable power on scenario whereby I can plug in the USB and get Huawei USB COM 1.0 port visible to use.

I suspect once I have worked this step out, then using the Huawei USB COM 1.0 port to flash will be moving more towards child's play (ie - the easy bit)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
My device (bla-l29) is completely hard brick. No fastboot, no recovery. Usb com 1.0 port, but I can not install software.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
Listen...if anyone has bricked mate 10 when was trying to downgrade from xloader 02 to 01...with huawei com 1( with testpiont) can unbrick device wirh dc phoenix
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
That's the theory, but someone should actually try it.

Obviously they should try with physical test point, not that USB Serv mode caused by the brick.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
Is not in theory...2 days ago l was trying by myself. After revive my pfone l was flashing it in dload with service firmware with xloader01. I had first xloader02. My phone finished hard bricked. I did so because l thought flashing it l will get nv partition back. Used testpoint with dc phoenix and my phone comes back!
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
[MENTION=2642882]Pretoriano80[/MENTION]
[MENTION=1803475]manager77[/MENTION]

That's my mistake
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
How you bricked your phone
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DevrimSeven60:
5 months ago :/

C636 -> C432 REBRAND

no fastboot, no erecovery
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Oh, then it's great, as long as test point is the same!

Regarding NV, you should be able to fix that with HCU, do you still have the box (or a backup of imeis, sn, etc).Flashing other people NV would result in a cloned device, more or less.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Yes, it's a known issue, DC-Phoenix can't flash, even if it shows as COM1 port. You need to use test point and try.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
Hehehe...it is not so simple. I was trying fix it with hcu but it is not complete.Need some more
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Which information is missing, board id?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
Nope...even l got everything back ( sn, imei, vendor etc) my device has no service mode...

Trimis de pe al meu SM-G935F folosind Tapatalk
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Hmm, i think is due to that cinese board used by DC-Phoenix. Iirc a friend of mine had the same issue after flashing the board with Phoenix.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] manager77:
Maybe yes maybe not...all l need is nv partition backup from the same phone as mine

Trimis de pe al meu ALP-L29(C636) folosind Tapatalk