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[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Firipu:
Not disagreeing, but I have a Mix 2 and redmi note 4. They both have a very active dev community. Really can't complain. Not as amazing as e.g. Nexus devices, but still very good imo. Can't comment on Oneplus dev community though.

And the 2s is a treble device.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] tbalden:
wireless charging will always be asked for but hardly be undestood by me.

It's utterly slow compared to any charging solution on market.

Then you go on the charge for a day... it's somewhat convenient, but takes some more room in the phone internals, and on your desk with the charger.

The glass back is more for the awesome mobile network speeds and wifi reception.

As much as I hate glass for shattering, my experience always shown that metal chassis results in poor reception.

Well that's about it. I'm curiously waiting for the oneplus6 to arrive. It was a long time ago with the OnePlus One when I last saw how OnePlus fares...

I'm sure I'm gonna have the U12+ too as well this year, but I needed to check another qualcom rocketed device this year (no kirin or exynos for dev purposes on my end) :)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] epr:
Have been thinking about upgrading from my OP5 to the 6 but now, as I can see all the specs, I will stay with my 5 and wait for the 6T/7 because of the following reasons

- only USB 2.0

- Fingerprint on the back

- no wireless charging

- Camera quality (don't think it's much better than OP5)

- no stereo speakers

- Notch (I don't really care about the notch but if I had the choice I would prefer a phone without)

I really like my OP5, it's amazing fast. So I think my next phone will be an OnePlus again, but not the 6. I will wait and see what comes next.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] cultofluna:
On mi mix 2 are about 2 or3 custom ROMs that you can try i think...

On oneplus 5/5T are about 15!! custom ROMs & 6- 8 kernels to choose...!!..
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] liam_davenport:
Roms aren't made in a day remember that bringup can take months depending how many people are working on said rom
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] NaterTots:
I'm not really impressed.

Last year HTC went to the glass back and didn't include wireless charger.

This year OnePlus did the same thing. Why bother going to a phone with twice the chance of breaking without including something you didn't get with metal?

Oh well, with phones being released with treble it's easier now than ever before to put aosp onto it. Mi Mix 2S looks really good
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] masri1987:
can you explain this whole project treble? i liked the mi mix 2s but i didn't want MIUI

Doesn't MIUI have a 360 hour waiting period for unlocking bootloader?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dejan16v:
People always point out OP price being lower then competition (i.e Samsung) but you can get competitors ectualy cheeper by carriers subsidized phones via contract.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] tbalden:
This is only great if you let them pump out your money off of you on a decent thick subscription package. If not doing so you'll pay a hefty interest for a locked device with many times slow updates.

Of course many exceptions exist.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] pro4ever:
Went to see the op6 at carphone warehouse and my initial impression stick with 5T until 6T is out hardly a upgrade for those who have a 5T :)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] NaterTots:
I don't know anything about their unlocking prices, and Google about treble.

There are some really good XDA articles in the benefits.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Predator_XxX:
People are people, they want all the features in the world without paying more. Just compare the launch prices of OP6, S9+ and Iphone 10 and u will have a particularly good idea that OP6 is complete value for money
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] tbalden:
Yah, it computes pretty well. Launch price 520 euros is just excellent.

And that's why you'll see popping up all kinds of people asking for more....more more more :)

That said, yes, other devices can offer more and cost more. (Being a true HTC fan I know it too well :D Still gathering dimes to get the HTC U12+ as well when it comes out, so I can develop two devices hands-on this year)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] trsix:
Original poster must be pretty bored. Don't buy it.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] n.pikota:
I do not understand why many people require too much. Other devices like Samsung, Huawei, HTC, Sony and more when they get a rom aosp lose most of the features. And people still use the roms
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] thejase:
In the usa, bands. Not enough network band coverage.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] SlyUK:
[MENTION=7911954]Robbo.5000[/MENTION] You mention Mi Mix 2S in your original post. When is Mi Mix 3 likely to launch ?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Robbo.5000:
I would assume it will be after Qualcomm release the next flagship SoC, (maybe called the 855 if they stick to the current naming).

I cannot imagine them releasing a new model with the same SoC as the previous model.

Just looking on Wikipedia and Qualcomm appear to release a new 800 SoC approximately every 9 months, so we may see the next version before the end of the year, if they keep the current trend.

The Mi Mix 2S was one of the first to release with the 845, so hopefully Xiaomi will be as quick with the Mi Mix 3.

Potentially it could be late this year or early next year, though this is all pure conjecture.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] SlyUK:
Thanks for informing of this. Was planning on buying OP 6 in September, but may wait it out until the end of the year and see what happens. Interesting times ahead.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sachinfan:
I want to ask a question? Is this phone ok for normal everyday use, I mean i am using a iphone 7 now and was looking at s9 for 2 months.....before I decided to be reasonable with my finances and wait for op6.

I have checked it out today and phone looks superb, if not a bit too big, and the build quality looks great. I am however not wanting to be surprised later into knowing that this is meant for people invested into rooting and custom-roms.

I am a regular guy with no intention of rooting ever....just wanting a "flagship" experience at reasonable cost.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] i.snehal.kiran:
i am currently using oneplus 5t since launch day. Although i am in rooing and custom roms but this time i stick with stock rom and experience was really good.

i never unlock or rooted my 5t. it is very much fast with zero lag . The os updates are timely. no force closes, no lagging apps, and app opening time is also very good.I have not rebooted my phone since 2-3 months. dash charging works good. So my guess is op6 will be good buy.

PS- i hate iphones and its all restrictions come with it (not to mention over priced , over hyped, very less customisation in ios)
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Robbo.5000:
OxygenOS is widely regarded as the best factory customisation of Android. It is very close to vanilla AOSP with zero bloat. It is very fast and fluid and very stable.

OnePlus are very custom ROM friendly and actively interact with the community and so their phones become a firm favorite with the custom ROM community. However the phone is definitely more than good enough out of the box and does not need you to go down this route to get the most out of it.

OnePlus phones are great phones and I personally would never consider a Samsung S? over OnePlus, as the price difference does not match the minimal quality difference.

For me, I feel that this OnePlus release is a very 'safe' upgrade, with no sign of any innovation, so as someone who likes to look to the cutting edge I think there are alternatives to be considered.

If you are less interested in the cutting edge, then you will definitely not regret buying the OnePlus 6.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] netgar:
I see op6 running stock ROM and rooted with magisk to get rid of ad's and unwanted apps.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Robbo.5000:
Just to give a bit more food for thought, the Xiaomi rumour mill has been rumbling these last few weeks over the release of the Mi 6 replacement. There is a rumored announcement before the end of this month, possibly the 23 or 24, though the latest thinking is for the 31.

Naturally this would be the Mi 7, but rumours have circulated that it will be called the Mi 8, to reflect the 8th anniversary of Xiaomi.

Some rumours even suggest that both will be announced, with the Mi 8 being something similar to a plus version with some more premium features.

If the rumours are to be believed it will have secure 3d face unlock, which passes Google's security requirements, which will allow authentication of banking apps, etc. It will also have the fingerprint sensor integrated into the screen.

The screenshots that have been leaked appear far more believable than the leaked Mi Mix 2S, which had the camera in a small notch in the top corner.

If the screenshots are true, then it has a very minimal bottom bezel and a top notch. Due to all the extra hardware needed for 3d face recognition, the notch takes up over half the screen width.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] GizmoFreak:
Just wait for a day and see YouTuber's going crazy on the camera. This is what I feel after seeing sample photos and videos. Photos appears to be good.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cst79:
You can't go wrong with OIS + 1.22um pixels.

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I also thought the Xiaomi Mi8 would be a good alternative to OP6, especially given the 4400mAh rumors (I suppose this size is for the big phone - which to be honest, is likely to be of the OP6 size - not the smaller one).

But I just looked at the Mi 2s review on GSMArena, and for a 3400 mAh battery and SD845 the endurance is a worrying 59h, while for roughly the same screen size and battery the OP5T manages to get 82h.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] CyberSloth:
So currently have Pixel XL 32GB (£50PCM O2) pre-ordered OP6 (£36 O2) had the OP2!! A worthy upgrade or not to bother? Excited for what i see!!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] nguyenlucky:
Not to mention the V30, with exactly same chipset, screen size (2K res) and battery, manages 93h (with 33h of calling) o.O
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septfox:
Might be underwhelming for some, but it finally presents a decent, cost-effective modernization for those of us with old OLED flagships like the Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx.

Yea, there's a loss of display resolution and wireless charging, but everything else is either equivalent or a straight upgrade. Plus it gets Band 71 out of the box, which is becoming an increasingly viable alternative to dealing with Verizon for rural coverage here in the states.

The LG V30 was the previous shining star of hope as far as I was concerned, but due to the circus that has been their quality control, developer support, and regionalizing/carrier-exclusivity BS, I'm considering alternatives to giving them money. OnePlus wasn't in the running for me before, but with them now finally taking up OLED screens... *shrugs*
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] qwertyaas:
I'm just curious how the camera/image performance is between the 5T and 6.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] denja12:
Price value no doubt a great value, but not looking at price... i dont know if I would buy it
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] ABotelho23:
Personally I still don't understand why the price keeps increasing if the additions keep getting smaller year-over-year.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Robbo.5000:
The switch to a Samsung AMOLED screen, much more premium materials and now the much better camera modules have accounted for the big increases over the last couple of years. These were some of its biggest criticisms with the first couple of phones.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] ABotelho23:
So all the changes that were introduced in the OP3 means price increases for the OP3T, OP5, OP5T and now the OP6?
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Robbo.5000:
Now I think about it, you've a point, to some degree.

The jump to the 3T only really have a upgrade from the Snapdragon 820 to the 821. I don't remember there being a big price increase, but considering how little changed, any increase should have been minimal.

I do seem to remember the 5 had a large increase and, on paper, there doesn't seem much that justifies it. Again, the only major upgrade being the change to the Snapdragon 835.

There was little in the way of price change with the 5T, with the major changes being slimmer bezels, which shouldn't cause any major price change, and the upgrade to dual lens setup on the main camera.

We see a jump in price again now with the 6. However we do see a significant jump in quality, on paper, with the on board camera modules. Although they are not the best in class, they are a big jump in quality over the 5T and are certainly good enough to be called flagship quality.

It does seem like there is little to show for the fairly large launch price difference between the 3 and the 5. But since then there does seem more definite changes where you could justify the smaller price increase between the 5 and 6.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Geeksquek:
I feel same
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] ABotelho23:
My concern about the price is that phones like the OP1, OP2, and OP3 were almost all on part with the flagship phones for so much less. It was real value, it was real flagship killers.

Now, it's fallen behind in features that are more or less standard for flagships; water resistance, wireless charging, a higher resolution display, etc. It's not that I didn't expect the price to go up over time, it's that it's 30-40$ increases every 6 months. That's insane increases while some manufacturers are actually bringing down prices year-over-year to try and grab a bigger chunk of the market.

OnePlus used to be half the price of flagships with the same features, and now it's 3/4 the price while having less features compared to the flagships of today.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] sl1k123:
Well, that´s just business tbh. Gain a culty following and jack up the prices "inconspicuously". Suck tho.... I´m actually so disappointed with my op6 I´m putting it up for sale as we speak.... Just as soon as I´ve reverted it back to stock. Much happier with my op3t which still works real well and battery lasts longer (duh) xD DISAPPOINTED ;(
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Robbo.5000:
Wow, that's interesting to hear, I'm currently still using my OP3, which I'm still happy with.

Would you be willing to provide any feedback as to any specifics, other than battery life, that your disappointed with? No worries though if you'd rather not, don't worry about it.

Personally, I'm looking forward to see what Xiaomi are going to announce next week. See how much of the rumour mill is true. The Mi 8 could turn out to be this year's must have flagship, if the price is right.

Thanks.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] sl1k123:
Battery life, Camera quality is fine by my standards, however, especially selfie camera is slow to respond (is wavy/jittery). Screen is fine imho but still lackin vr quality since 1080p. Usb 3? Where´s that? Come on 1+, it´s 2018 and that´s just ludicrous. Not that I personally find it a huge issue, but in principal. In addition to all this, the software seems half-assedly compiled or smth (missing features which were stock before). All in all I like the looks (notch or no notch, I don´t give a ****) and snappyness but just ain´t worth the price since it doesn´t correspond with the bang.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] trsix:
Not the phone for you sounds like. 15 day return policy.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] sl1k123:
Yea, which is surprising since I´ve loved every single phone from op so far. Anyway, I only paid 260e for it so I´m better off selling it forward instead of returning.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Klanac89:
The S9 is 529€, the Mate 10 Pro with 128GB is 20€ cheaper than the OP6 64GB and almost any phone is about 500-550€.

The Mi Mix 2s I can get for 414€.

OnePlus is not cheap and have no.good price.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] chakra:
OnePlus 6 will have the best community support of all you mentioned, roms, kernels, mods, root....

You can't even root a US S9+
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Klanac89:
Welcome to 2018

You can buy Pixel, you can look for Android One or go with Xiaomi, when you need custom stuff. Remember, 5 years ago, OnePlus sell 1080p with 64GB for 299€, today you still get 1080p and 64GB for 519€. In 3-4 months you will get a "not bad" LineageOS. The last 1% look for root but this is it.

When I get 6.3 inch with 1080p and 3300 mAh, bad speaker, a "ok" camera, no IP, no IR and so one for over 500€... Than I don't care about custom rom, kernel and mod.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] NaterTots:
All treble devices will have better custom rom support, than in the past, since they can all run a straight AOSP build with everything working right out of the box.

As long as you can unlock the bootloader of course.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] SlyUK:
Ahem Huawei...cough cough !
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
Yep. You can get a Pixel 2 for around £599, heck an S8 plus is cheaper and better than an OP6. It's just not worth it this year.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] nigelhealy:
When it is a 6 monthly release cadence each increment will necessarily be smaller than an annual release cadence. It would take progressively older phones before you saw a suffiiciently big change to be worth changing. I got the original OPO, then the OP2, but the OP3 was meh for me but when they did the cpu and battery bump for OP3T I got that, the OP5 was meh, the OP5T meh, but by the OP6 with ceramic I figured its worthwhile enough to upgrade from my 18 month old OP3T. Somone on a OP5T would be both reasonably in agreement its not that big an upgrade.

The Wifi is a lot better is all I'd say I see so far of material gain, moving from metal to ceramic OP3T to OP6 is very noticeable, the Wifi disconnect problems further from router seem to have gone.

I lost Android Pay on Android Wear (Google Pay on Wear OS) for some reason I'm trying to debug.

I got the 8GB 256GB. I think 8GB is overkill but $100 18% more for 4x the storage seems like a good investment. A few times 64GB was a little tight if I was traveling for long time with lots of downloaded media and making videos away from Wifi, but the $ prices for $50 more for +64GB or $100 for +2GB +192GB seemed to point to my choice as best value long term.

My other spare beater phone has 16GB with a 64GB SD and I'm happy with that.

Phones need to get cheaper not faster, a 2 year old phone performs perfectly adequately. Its things like the all-LTE global phone changes came in with the OP5 to help when traveling with LTE in more countries, those are the fringe benefits of newer phones.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] samteeee:
For a lot of us that been here for a long time and those that are here and care for development and customization, there is only one choice, OnePlus, as they picked up where Nexus went out!

With that in mind and the price point I think right now 6 is the best unless you can spend more then this year

the best is HTC U12+, IMHO.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] B3501:
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[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheNetwork:
We need a pointless post button next to the thanks button.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] dj_chapz:
1. There were no major brakethroughs in tech that are ready to be used. Underglass fingerprint is still kinda beta. Foldable phones still just rumors. 100% screen-to-body ratio? Still has flaws.

2. Wireless charging - the most obvious gimmick being sold to people ever. You need to put your phone down (cant lift it or use it in that time) and its slow. Cable is faster and you can actually move around while charging depending on cable length. I dont understand people who claim wireless charging is something good.

3. Waterproofing - Its not official, but its there. Keeps the phone protected and the price lower. You probably wouldnt use your phone underwater, so why do u need IP ratings? Even phones with IP ratings cant go into salty water nor does the warranty cover water damage. Its certified, but not under warranty.

4. Camera - they need to get rid of the second cam. Keeps the price up so someone can have better pics on Instagram.

5. Point of the phone is performance - and it has it, lots of it. Its kinda waiting for the newest bycicle and expecting a race car. People expected a Note 9 from OnePlus.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] NaterTots:
I think wireless charging is great. Especially now that wireless Android auto is happening and so many vehicles come with built in charging pads.

Nice to not have to plug in my phone every time I get into the car
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhericurls:
I'm big fan of wireless charging and have been using it for a few years. I use it a lot at work and when I go to sleep. I don't have to fumble around for a cable and just place it on the mat. I just find it extremely convenient and there's no wear and year on the phone or cable. If people don't use it fine but it should of been on this phone.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Robbo.5000:
I would also add a point about FHD being more than good enough, except for people wishing to use it for VR. Anyone claiming that they can see big differences beyond FHD are either holding their phones way too close to their face, or have a phone with a cheap, lacklustre, badly calibrated FHD display and the difference they see is not due to the resolution.

However, I would dispute that there's no breakthroughs. As Huawei and Xiaomi have shown, there has been some massive leaps forward in the quality of images that computational photography can create. Both the P20 Pro and the Mi Mix 2 are creating exceptional images, in tricky lighting, that experts say would not be possible with the given hardware and conventional image processing software.

Some uses of machine learning are now mature enough to be very useful, e.g. accurate real time translation of spoken conversations, done completely on the phone.

This, for me, is where I believe OnePlus have lost ground to some of the competition. As for hardware, I agree, it's definitely as good as it needs to be and going beyond becomes an exercise of ticking boxes and adding bigger numbers on paper, rather than adding real world, discernable improvements.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] old_fart:
Sad news for us and our passion.

https://www.theinquirer.net/inquire...ed-the-support-for-bootloaders-on-its-devices

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Less is not better.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] _Dennis_:
I to an a huge fan of wireless charging, but I also understand why it's not in the OP6. The coils and IC chips cost money, the design (so it fits in the phone) cost money, time, and space. Using the qi symbol costs money, and it wouldn't increase sales very much. Overall it would be a bar investment for OnePlus.
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Disgustip8ed:
These are the reasons I chose the 6 instead of any other phone. I can afford an S9+ or whatever flagship is out but I love the stock Android with Oxygen features without the bloat. I look at it this way, I can sell my 5 for $375-$400 and buy a 6 for another $175. Heck yes, I'm buying a 6 for under $200!
[OnePlus 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] ben cherian:
Water resistant certification

Wireless charging

2k amoled display (not sure it will come nearby)

Stereo speakers

Notchless display