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[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] vargasjei:
I contacted Support, and they toldme to delete some of the recents apps I have installed, and after that everything so far working good.

I don't know if it was coincidence or what, but again happy with my nokia.

I decided to wait for OTA of Android Pie because the flashed manual, had many bugs. Maybe HDM is still fixing some things.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] trveller72:
I use Samsung Internet, can't remember to clear the cache before (no need for it)

Just cleared the cache now, 150MB, it took a couple of seconds, but phone was still responsive (I was able to scroll up and down).

To be honest, I do not like the chrome browser to much, on Android or Windows, I like very much the Samsung one for Android and Firefox for win.

Why do you have to clear the cache anyway? The phone has plenty of memory.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Fygaroo:
I just cleared cache on chrome 603mb and no frezze i could navigate my phone and it took about 15 sec to clear the cache . This is the first time i cleared cache manually. Android pie stable.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
Clearing the app and DNS cache speed up the browsing experience.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] satyantatavalu@gmail.com:
Miracast not working screen mirroring problem
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
Hi, does anyone know why the latest Chrome feels laggy/choppy while scrolling? I went to an old version of Chrome and now everything is smooth.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] :
I am thinking of buying Nokia 7 Plus.

Is Android Pie update stable enough (It would be a new phone so I would update to Pie on a clean install)?

Do you recommend Nokia 7 Plus?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
Same here also glitchy sometimes the screen flickers , using fireforx

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Poco F1 vs 7+ here is the compare , other than the cpu the deference is minor , still waiting on the face unlock by Nokia

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-very much , for me in comparison to over mid range specs , and the Tough Nokia build quality , the ziess camera , can't find anything near its price point with half the features.

- if you are not a power user and care about skin features such as display colors ,shortcuts , heavy customization , the android one program isn't for you .

- been using the 7+ for 3 month now since its release and not a single issue with anything , even the beta bugs were minor
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
If you are planning to spend 25-26K rupees, I would suggest you to spend 4k more and get Asus Zenfone 5z. It's way better than Nokia 7 plus and way more powerful. Nokia 7 plus can defeat it only in terms of software updates.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
Face Unlock since June ?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] rounend:
We are still in the "coming months"... :)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] azizmulhim:
I have recevied the pie OTA update on my phone Model TA-1046. (Middle East)

Really reluctant to apply due to reported bugs.

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[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Ganre:
Android pie stable has face unlock
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] aazizz:
Really! I didn't find this option yet!
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] trveller72:
Is this different from the one in Oreo?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] BigD18t:
It's under security, smart lock, trusted faces, but it's not reliable for me, works ok for a while then reverts back to plain finger print unlock.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Rubens95:
I think that maybe in some time trusted face could disappear for all because in the new pixels phone Google disable the feature saying They do not consider it safe enough without a dedicated 3d unlock hardware. It's just a hypothesis, but since Nokia is Android One, I think it can share the same fate
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Ganre:
Its trusted faces
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] trveller72:
We had trusted face on Oreo also. Did not work to well.

Looks to me that the one in Pie is the same thing.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
That's a bug on Nokia 7 plus. I noticed it on Oreo as well. Smart lock options keep getting blank. If you re-enable them somehow, they are gone again after a reboot.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Chuck93:
Still no update in Europe? I am still at Android P beta...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
I like it a lot, and I have found the solution.

Before you reboot just disable it in trusted agents option, reboot, and enable it again...viola, it is back!

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Still no update in BiH also.

My brother has Huawei P9 Lite 2017 which is one and half years old, and he already received September patch...and I am sitting on August and waiting...

Android seven this is, not one :)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
Yeah I know that trick too. But it's really annoying. If you reboot the device again, it will be gone and you have to again go to Trusted agents and disable and reboot again make it work. It's a lot of work.

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You can sideload anytime
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
Yes I know, and I have tested all betas so far...but I think this Pie is not ready to be stable release...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
I have been telling this from the beginning. It's exactly the same update that we got on DP4.1 with no changes at all except the device shows "Certified". It needs a lot more polishing in order to be called "Stable".

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But you can sideload September Oreo update (2.22M SP01). I'm on it now.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] BigD18t:
I would have rather they delayed it, but the usual entitled people were moaning on here and Twitter it HAD to be out before September ended or Nokia broke their promise so Nokia did push it.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
Yes it was kinda pressure. HMD was probably thinking of taking a bit more time, but due to pressure from users, they had to release it in a hurry. And also they didn't want anyone else to release Pie before them (as 1+6 already did that prior to them)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] BigD18t:
I just replied to your DM, but not sure it's sent as I can't see it.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
Yeah I got it, buddy
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
How, via ADB or? Do you have download link?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
Link: https://xdaforums.com/nokia-7-plus/development/ota-nokia-7-plus-ota-links-t3818774

You can read the instructions in that thread as well. But it's preety easy. Sometimes it may give timestamp error while sideloading, but changing the active slot solves that issue most of the time.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] k3dar7:
i'm not sure, about what you talking... you have enabled/set trusted face in Settings/Security/SmartLock and after reboot is this setting page/activity blank? on me N7p&Pie not have this problem after reboot
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
It's a known issue faced by a lot of users of Nokia, Pixel, OnePlus devices.

Link: https://community.phones.nokia.com/support/discussions/topics/7000016900 (just for example. There are numerous complaints in Reddit and XDA regarding the same)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MatthiasDS:
I still can't see this "lots of more polishing" it would need to be "stable". It's literally rock stable over here and even the list of "issues" that has been posted in the other thread consists of either very minor cosmetic things, or things that aren't bugs at all.

It's a great update. I'm happy I sideloaded.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Micahvdm:
I couldn't agree more. People just like to ***** and moan on here.

Its become worse than Reddit...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Liftedcorn:
So, I opted for DP when I was on Oreo because I wanted to try Pie.

And I got the stable update when I was still in Development Preview program.

But, I want to roll back to stable Oreo and then normally upgrade to Pie.

It's not giving any option of OTA rollback for Oreo on official site, neither can I un-register for DP program.

Any help ??
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
Here

https://xdaforums.com/nokia-7-plus/development/ota-nokia-7-plus-ota-links-t3818774
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] divvykev:
So, based on this theory, if I had moaned a bit more my Nokia 6.1 would have been updated along with other countries and my 7 plus would not still be on August patch? This would keep inline with the Android One promise on their website and packaging?

All some of us ask for is what has been promised OR communication that things are delayed for quality purposes.

Would love a list of things I am "entitled" to please. Want to know what I am losing out on!

The phones are mostly high quality but are severely let down by HMD's tech support. They need to stop churning out phones and start churning out updates.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
Very good point. Today my friend received Pie on his Sony Xperia XZ2, along with October patch.

This is not a big deal to sit on 8.1.0 and August patch, but also this is not what was promissed...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
Thanks for the answer.

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Friends,

I tried reseting W-Lan, Bluetooth setting but still the problem is there. I am getting dead air 50% times. Any solution?

I want to roll back to Oreo but the process is looking little cumbersome. Do we have straight forward steps and relevant files. Link please.

Thanks in advance :highfive:
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
Dont panic, its a piece of cake.

You have files here

https://xdaforums.com/nokia-7-plus/development/ota-nokia-7-plus-ota-links-t3818774

And detailes about downgrading here

https://xdaforums.com/nokia-7-plus/how-to/finally-downgrade-phone-official-t3849437

The only thing you have to pay attention to is changing slot if you need to.

Feel free to ask if you need anything.

Good luck
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
Thanks. On a trial basis doing factory reset and will observe for a day. Or else flash Oreo or roll back.

What is changing slot? Pls elaborate.

Thanks for the links. Will come back :svetius::highfive:
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
Read the second link, you have details there...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
HI,

I tried and getting following error. Asked a question in the forum you suggested, posting here if anybody has a clue.

E: Update package is older than the current build, expected a build newer than timestamp 1537621412 but package has timestamp 1535731607 and downgrade not allowed.

Installation aborted.

What could be the reason and solution?

Thanks
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
Alright so after getting some assistance I am able to downgrade to Oreo but immediately it is giving me an update of 1431 MB. That way I will again be forced to install Pie which I don't want. What to do? Or it is an Apr update or May?

Not sure, just going with the flow :fingers-crossed: Let's see
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
What build did you install? For example, I flashed Oreo with August patch.

Can you post screenshot?

You can disable auto updates in developer options...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] baconwizard:
I did that it is 1365 MB smth and it got me back to oreo :(
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] salahmed:
Nokia pushed June security patch update for Android 8.1, let's hope second beta update coming next
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] batkoin:
yo mate you broke my heart :(
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] yabhuva:
In India update available of June security for n7+
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] TheSaarth:
Just got this on my Nokia 7 plus India version Android P developer preview.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] fulvio1993:
Gcam doesn't work on June patch
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] TheSaarth:
Got me back to Oreo and completely screwed my **** up. Everything is crashing.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] vishal.kprasad:
yeah!! same here, can anyone suggest the latest version of gcam working for N7+ please.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Brotuck:
So you were on android p beta2 ? And got an ota back to oreo ?

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nokia 7 plus met Tapatalk
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] TheSaarth:
Yep!
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] daavid1995:
It's not the DP3, it's just a Oreo update with june security patch.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
The Bugs are Minor if u can handle them then yes, check with the fourm for Bugs and solutions
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
MENA here got June patch Oreo 8.1

:)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] riscum:
Cancelled that security patch update on dp2. Thanks guys.

I only managed to pause the installation .. is there a way to cancel ?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
Why? Are you on the beta?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MadSandwich:
after rollback i cant back to android P, when i'm installing it from the adb it say to me that i have a newer version and he couldn't install it, how can i handle that?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] riscum:
Yes

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We should try to reach Nokia . Or a Android related news blog to have some exposure .. this is a tremendous fail.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
Mybe post on The community fourm?

Thanks for letting me know won't update;)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MadSandwich:
I asked for a help on a community forum, and i very sorry to my self that i didin't read yeastarday before update that ****ing secure update can ruin my phone and after stuck will roll my phone to the Oreo :crying:

UPD:

i can't post a link, but on community forum moderator said:

"Hi everyone,

I try to get some info on that and will pass them on to you all as soon as I can.

Best regards, Laura."

So I hope it took's not a lot of time to solve that problem
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
:( Sorry for your trouble hope it's fixed ASAP
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
Screen shot - Not possible because of update coming just after you start your phone post downgrading. Once you install update, you back to the same Pie built:eek:

Where did you get August patch? I have downloaded the link or ROM via Nokia site.

Disable - :laugh: you to reach there to enable it. System does not allow, trying again with SIMs out and will not sign in for WiFI. Let's see if that works. Otherwise, Nah "sawaal he nahi uthta" .:silly:
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
Alright. After initial hiccups, now I am on Oreo but with April security patch because I downloaded the link or ROM from Nokia site. I can download August or September security patch (if available) but how do I install them?

Any tip...

Thanks
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
You sideload them like any other.

But you already installed something....
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] d0dgebizkit:
Is there a way to force the update to stable 9.0 via OTA? Clearing a cache or changing simcard or something?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Rubens95:
Nope
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Liftedcorn:
Thanks.

Can I also know how do I downgrade ?

What are the steps ??

Because I couldn't find them on Nokia Community forums or elsewhere.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
It is the top post in guides section.

You must be looking on the wrong forum :laugh:

https://xdaforums.com/nokia-7-plus/how-to/finally-downgrade-phone-official-t3849437
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
Anyone on Pie can plzz confirm if the OEM unlocking option is greyed out by default like mine (see the screenshot).
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] schetz:
Greyed out here as well. No point in confirming by screenshot as it looks exactly the same (used RAM as well) :D
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
So, basically the OEM unlocking indicator is showing turned on and greyed out. ???
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
I just got the update in Europe, Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Previously I tested Pie and downgraded to Oreo, and then sideloaded September patch...so updates will continue on regular basis no matter what.

Cheers
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MatthiasDS:
Yes, so you can see its state without altering it.

With me it's greyed out but disabled.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
My bootloader is locked and still greyed out with the option toggled ON.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] k3dar7:
Try off/on devel opt.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
Doesn't work. Tried many times. Anyway, that's just a false display. If the bootloader was really unlocked, it would have shown a warning message at every boot and play store would have been uncertified. I am sure, if I do a hard reset, it will show toggled OFF (but that's really unnecessary).
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] k3dar7:
Is more strange, i have unlocked and oem switch is off with text about connect to internet, while i connected ;)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
That never happened to me. I did upgraded to Pirle twice while my bootloader was unlocked. But then I had to roll back due to missing gestures and unsupported magisk modules (like Dolby). But now I locked both the bootloader and critical and upgraded to Pie. But the OEM unlocking opinion is showing toggled ON and greyed out. But like I said, I am 100% sure, the bootloader is completely locked now as I no longer see the warning message at boot up. And also, I am not sure if you have ever noticed or not. If the bootloader is really unlocked, if says "Your bootloader is already unlocked" unser OEM Unlocking option. But in my case, even though the option is showing ON, but in my case it is saying "Allow the bootloader to be unlocked" which is shown when the bootloader is locked. So, I don't know what exactly is going on. This is something I have never seen on any of my previous devices. I know a hard reset may show the actual state of my bootloader, but I can't keep doing hard resets.

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Check if you see the warning message at boot up. If yes, then ignore that OEM unlocking mismatch. I think it doesn't show the current state properly. I think it's a Pie related issue mostly happening to people who have a unlocked device or had it unlocked at some point of time (although I am not sure).

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Are you asking or telling? If you are asking, then just to let you know that sideloading doesn't break OTA update as long as you are not rooted and didn't temper system partition.

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You can't force an OTA update if it is not available in your country or blocked by your carrier. Either you need to wait until it is available for you or you can just sideload. There is nothing wrong in sideloading. It's just an alternative method to get ypur device updated and it's legal by the way.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
I am/was telling that if you sideloaded any official firmware you will continue to receive updates.

Thanks for even better input.

Cheers
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
By the way, plzz share your thought of what you think about the OEM unlocking option that I see on my device (plzz see my posts above for the same).
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
Yes, I am following your discussion about OEM unlocking, but I didn't update to Pie (I have tried it and I say no thanks until they fix some bugs and glitches), so I cannot help at the moment...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
Be ready to face sarcasm as a few Pie users will try their best to prove you are wrong and Pie is super stable. They will even say the problem is with your device only and they didn't notice any issues or bugs. I faced them quite a few times while posting the bugs (mainly cosmetic or visual). I know bugs are common on first few builds and I am completely fine with that. The problem is when people do face them, but still don't admit it. They tease you, provoke you, insult you and still it's fine with eveyone (including the mods who dismiss the report saying "it didn't break any code of conduct"). But if you response, you are treated as rude, rule breaker etc. and are given warning. So ironic!!
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
I am ready, and I don't care. I have tested all builds of Pie so far, and it is fast, animations are very nice, but too many little bugs and graphical glitches for my taste...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
I completely agree with you. A lot of visual glitches which were present on beta updates and are still present on stable release as well. Infact, I haven't noticed any improvement from the final beta update. I feel it's the same thing with a different name (called stable instead of beta) and different device status (from Uncertified to Certified).
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
I couldn't agree more!
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] trveller72:
I have the option grayed out and in off position.

I think it remained the same as it was when you upgraded to Pie.

I never turned on, si it is on off, you probably had it turned on and stayed on.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
I did a hard reset prior to upgrading to Pie and as far as I know, when you do a hard reset, everything goes back to default. So, there is no question of keeping the OEM unlocking turned on before upgrading to pie. But anyway, even though it's showing ON, but the bootloader is actually locked. So, it really doesn't matter to me that much.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] trveller72:
Oh well, another Nokia Pie mystery:D
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
Well said, buddy!! I'm waiting for the Ocotober update and I hope it solves the some of the bugs (considering the amount of time HMD is taking to release the October patch). But, as you know, HMD is now acting like Xiaomi. You can't expect a perfect update. Every update will solve some bugs and create a few new.. ???
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] trveller72:
I am well use to it. I had an OnePlus X before this one:D.

At least I hope for updates for the next 2 years (HMD were ok with schedule after may update).
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MatthiasDS:
Man, if you post things that aren't even bugs at all then sure you will be called out for it.

Other than that, please don't decide for other users that they are definitely experiencing bugs but just not admitting it. That is, indeed, rude and insulting from your side and again you are rightfully being called out for it.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
I was talking about people like you, precisely. Do you even know how to use the search option to find out how many people have reported bugs in Pie (stable) before you call me rude?? I'm not the only one here who is reporting issues after upgrading to Pie. I'm sure you don't even know how many people have rolled back to Oreo die to these particular bugs which you are saying "not bugs". You may please your mind by keep chanting "Oh lord! Those are not bugs. Those are new visual effects", but you can't deny the fact that those are bugs. You will definitely never understand if you do not use both a Pixel device and Nokia 7 plus side by side.