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[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] edwaine:
1. I'm not a HMD Employee that can guarantee anything on your phone.

2. You're wrong that Nokia doesn't have any recovery tools since Lumia days because I own one before and I've been re-flashing Windows 8 Phone firmware everytime my Windows 10 Mobile got messed up. Want proof? Look at this and check their tool at Microsoft website:

Windows 10 Mobile Device Recovery Tool FAQ

3. If your phone you've mentioned is 2016 released, then it is meant not to receive any major updates anymore, just security updates only Your Phone was released January 2017, why you cant update your Phone?

4. HMD Global is only 19 months old. WTF are you expecting for an infant company if your viewing them as "amateurish" and "support is worse"?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] jimmygumble:
On point 2 there, did you not understand what I said? I'm sure I was saying that they did have tools in the Lumia days ie. wp7 to wm 10.

For point 1, I'm know you are not an employee yet you gave advice to flash ota without a disclaimer. Hence I was curious why you would be so sure. No need to get uppity if someone asks you a question you don't know the answer to.

3. The Nokia 6 is still receiving updates but if you manually flash an ota there is a possibility you stop receiving them over the air. There's a thread in the 6 forum where people including myself have observed this. Hence my question to you before.

4. Regarding 4, lts a matter of opinion based off observation so I'll leave that alone.

Anyway to stick to the subject of the thread I think OTA updating is unaffected if you manually flash due to the fact the we still receive the April downgrade OTA after manually flashing the June update.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] edwaine:
Point taken my bad

I do have a disclaimer on my page. Please visit it here:

Nokia 7 Plus OTA & Fastboot Collection

Well so far this has not yet proven on Nokia 7 Plus but there's a possibility for that. Especially if the variant is different. So far both TA-1046 & TA-1062 are compatible and same OTA links based on the Logcat I recovered on both devices.

Well here's an update for that. As per Nokia Conversation forums & chat support:
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] jimmygumble:
Whoops. Never read that disclaimer there. Sorry my bad!

One positive out of the this rollback issue is that me and anyone else with a ta1055 can sniff the May and June updates when this gets resolved. :svetius:
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] SirGarmaples:
I'd prefer built-in gestures. Sure, XDA's alternative is more customizable, but the "Pill" Gesture Navigation System integrates with the System UI in a way which isn't possible with XDA's app. But hey, you do you. :)

That was for someone updating from Oreo to Android P. A dirty flash/install isn't recommended for a person upgrading from Oreo, so I did not mention that method since they would have to do a full wipe either way. ;)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] edwaine:
If you happen to rollback to April firmware & this Rollback Bug is fixed, I hope you can also get the Logcat so we can compare all the OTA releases. So far the OTA links are for TA-1046 & TA-1062
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] hazam1992:
Tried to get deep sleep to work, but no luck... Any ideas?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MK99:
There is beep sleep, but not so good.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] edwaine:
Another update. Hopefully this also marks another release.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
I would like to advice anyone who have manually installed the security patches post the rollback, please check if you need to install the rollback zip with april security patch 1st and then update. Stick to the official method so it wont cause further bugs and problems.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] BigD18t:
I used the links on your thread for my TA1055 and they worked fine, .
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
So my install history is Oreo June Update , P June 5 3.08 , P July 3.10 , and now i rolled back using the zip manually with data wipe and now on April patch, from the previous comments it seems there is an issue with then new patch? should i check for updates or wait [MENTION=5132573]grubber24[/MENTION] plz help
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
I suggest you should wait for the new build which nokia is working upon. As per the last update, its on its way
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
well do thanks my friend :)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] vahtmestar:
My phone just found update for 5/18 patches. Let's see do we get all the way till July.

Edit. Was there some tweaks to system on May update preciously ? Now changelog only tells, that it contains security patches.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
Man i am so lost with these upgrades , i am on April update and the battery life is 3 days!!!i don't know what are they doing with the software:confused::(
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] vahtmestar:
I don't know is this some placebo effect, but phone feels lightning fast after updating back to july patches. So Hmd have resolved issue and at leas I was able to update back to most recent software.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] I_m_animesh:
Android p beta 4 is here lets see lill is back on nokia 7 p or not...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] SirGarmaples:
I wonder what will they change in the next update? Some spelling corrections? Some battery tweaks? Can't wait. :laugh:
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
Lets hope it's a quick update from nokia:D

---------- Post added at 10:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:27 PM ----------

Android P Beta 4

check it out guys, now More devices from nokia are in the program according to it:

Nokia 6.1
Nokia 7
Nokia 7 Plus
Nokia 8 Sirocco

Impressive
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Sanjayrao20:
Hope they get back navigation gesture
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] vishal.kprasad:
Battery consumption overnight

Hey, can you tell me how much charge did you guys lose overnight (like 11 to 6).

I lost 20% with always on display.

16% with always on switched off.

Seems a lot in both the cases.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] vishal.kprasad:
1. New navigation gestures

2. UI tuning of 4G symbol in status bar

3. Adaptive battery

4. Round UIs everywhere.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] SirGarmaples:
I remember Adaptive Battery being a Pixel-only feature though, maybe not?

Round UIs everywhere? That's unlikely since Google likes to keep that to their Pixel phone's first, but who knows what'll happen.

Another thing I'm hoping for to arrive is Markup. The ability to edit screenshots and draw on them as soon as you take the screenshot. This is already on the Pixel and Pixel 2 phones.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Sanjayrao20:
Could some one please upload antutu benchmark results running on Oreo please. I got what i think it's a really good score on dp4 of 162143
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] lifenight:
I see +/- 140.000 on the Google search results with Oreo.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] AshuYadav00:
When will beta 4 will be available, how much time did nokia take for beta 3 to release.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] BigD18t:
About two weeks after the pixel got it
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] SirGarmaples:
Since this beta is a minor release, we might expect it to come sooner.

Or not at all. ;)

Same here, losing a lot of battery overnight. Now, I always wake up to my phone powered off. I lose around 15% overnight from midnight to 10am or 9am.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] I_m_animesh:
Thats the problem of beta
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] SirGarmaples:
Yeah, I expected to see bugs here and there and to lose some battery endurance, but the UI is much smoother now. I hope that the final release (or Beta 4) would solve most of our issues.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] domdom2020:
This is the beta 3 but as soon as I have the setup delay the normal buttons come up. But you can see that the gestures are in the system. So I ask if anyone is using the Android P DP2 Beta2 version? I would need the Quick Step Launcher from there. Would someone send that to me please? I try to activate the gestures. To do this I need the launcher.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/qjqgrgXLMHfKDsqw8
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] AshuYadav00:
HMD have same employees of the old nokia, and their office is just on the opposite side of the road from nokia headquarter.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] VonCrisp:
And yet the background processes are written by a Taiwanese company.

Its great that the design is solid but the software still needs a lot of work.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] digitall1982:
can anyone confirm that picture quality from stock camera app is better in android p beta compared with android 8.1 stock app?

thanks
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
Hope So too, btw here is a video by xda team on the Beta 4 on the one plus 6 , looks good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjLRprUfsQA
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] SirGarmaples:
No, that's Beta 3 (DP4). OnePlus 6 hasn't gotten the Beta 4 update yet.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shubham412302:
I don't see a point in people rushing the company. They need to test the ROM for a bit before releasing it. You don't want to brick your device or have some major bugs.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
i agree, but what time frame would you consider acceptable here? last DP was 15 days and the previous was one month,i would argue that there could have been some major show stoppers before release but Nokia's team isn't sharing any new info unfortunately
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] ivo777:
Does it work NFC (Google Pay) in Android P Developer Preview 4 Beta 3?

Thanks in advance!
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] SirGarmaples:
Since the phone is "Uncertified" It will not work.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] saifo1999:
Here you go, Please tell me if it works :)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] domdom2020:
The first file (com.android) can not be installed at all (there was an error parsing the package) and the second file is too old and unfortunately can not be installed via the launcher, but I'll try it again.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] AshuYadav00:
How much time will they take for DP5 beta 4?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] beje86:
Going by previous betas, I think we can expect early-mid August with the August security patch already merged, but that's purely speculation on my side.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] sarath medithi:
The Rollback OTA update issues has been fixed by Nokia. Last night I Rollback to 2.13B via OTA update surprisingly I got two more OTA notifications for may and June. May be July patch OTA is waiting as I downloading June OTA.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
I just read on the Nokia Forums that the issue is fixed now. Thanks for the update!
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] donjamal:
put quickstep.apk into system/app/ folder, set permissions to 644 and it works. there's a bug though - you can't use it to show you recent apps (it gives a fc) so probably there are some libraries that we are missing or a newer version may be needed.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Ollie2:
Could you please confirm that after the OTA rollback and the device is updated to June or July security patch that the device is now certified in the Play Store so that things like Android Pay work?

https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/7165974?hl=en

I noticed a comment on the Nokia forums where it was certified after the May rollback but not the June
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] vishal.kprasad:
Battery Usage

Could you please tell me the average battery drain in android p beta 3 compared to O.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
In android P the battery drains from 100% to 5% in around 26 hours. That is around 1% drain in every 15-16 minutes. In oreo, the battery lasted from 100%-5% for about 28-30 hours, i.e. 1% in around 17-18 minutes.

This is my observation based on my usage pattern. Anyone else having some other experience?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
Good point but when you say usage, what is the avg. SOT you clock between this 26hrs. *assuming you are on Android P aka Pistachico
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] domdom2020:
My problem is that I have no root rights to do this. I'm just about to create a new version so that it still works. but good to know that this version does not work anyway. I have already installed the apk (created a clone with lucky patcher) but the launcher always crashes. I'm just about to find out how I can fix this. Unfortunately, I'm still new in development and I do not really have a PC. I am allowed to install on the pc of my dad nothing. That's why I'm doing just about anything with any apps for the phone. But let's see maybe I can get it anyway.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] vishal.kprasad:
Which one would you rate better in terms of battery

DP 2 (earlier one) or DP 4 (current)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
DP4 is much better without any modifications. DP3 needed us to use an adb command to get the battery usage in control.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
Around 6.5-7 hours SOT in both the cases.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] k3dar7:
for me usage is better, also in DP4 i use in BatteryManager manualy set restriction for many apps i not need for background...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] donjamal:
That sucks ? root helps with loads of things ?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] domdom2020:
yes unfortunately I have no paypal or other payment methods that work. Otherwise I would have Root already. :( :crying:
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
Thats pretty good. You mean to say you have turned off automatic management in battery manager and restricted the background activity of the apps you dont use?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Sanjayrao20:
Which voice recorder do ull use? I can't trust the ones on the store. Could someone port an apk from another phone or a custom rom
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] salahmed:
I use Sony audio recorder from Google Play Store

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.androidapp.audiorecorder
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] avsroy:
So after playing with the P beta versions for over a month now, last night I went back to Oreo. The battery drain issue was the biggest reason. DP-4 started misbehaving over the past few days and it became too unpredictable for my use. I had no issues with the OTA downgrade. It went back to 1 Apr patch and within an hour updated to May / June / July. So I am all set now and the battery life is back to amazing! Am at 58% after almost 25 hrs off the charger and 3 hrs SOT.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Brotuck:
Battery drain ?

It really is working fine.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nokia 7 plus met Tapatalk
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] avsroy:
I have some 85 to 90 apps installed and it is quite possible that some of them must have created a battery drain problem as many of them were unsupported as per Playstore ....
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
I have almost same amount of apps and some which require background service like accubatery , navbar apps , and i have pixel live wallpaper on and i can't notice any battery drain , normal use: ~1 day 6 hrs , gaming (PUBG): ~6hrs

PS: off topic, google camera is working great on this build , better exposer than stock camera
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] avsroy:
Very possible as it actually depends on the specific apps we have installed. P preview worked well save for the minor issues. However the battery drain issue for my combination of apps was not acceptable. The Oreo version is much better at this time for me.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Sanjayrao20:
Which pixel wallpaper apk did u use? I tried all available on apkmirror... It doesn't install or it crashes. I'm on dp4
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] vishal.kprasad:
which version of google camera?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] I_m_animesh:
Plzzz link of google camera
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] sarath medithi:
Arnova, CameraX, Skullshady all these are working on this build without any major issues.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] vishal.kprasad:
This might be something out of subject here, but the I think Watermark in Nokia Camera is too bad. Its very large in size compared to the overall pic and if you move it from portrait to landscape, you need to re-adjust the watermark everytime.

Let's ask HMD to improve it in android P atleast, to be something more like Oneplus (very little subtle watermark that you dont have to care while clicking pictures).

PS: This might not be very important but just one suggestion.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Doktaphex:
Why anyone would want to add a watermark from their phone manufacturer to any photograph they take is completely baffling to me.

Each to their own I suppose, if we were all the same, it would be a very boring world. :good:
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Brotuck:
Posted one hour ago: (on nokia support forum)

We're working on Beta 4 release now but I cant give a definitive release date at moment as release testing is still ongoing.

Stay tuned and will be with you soonest.

Regs

Skink
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
Thanks for the update here! Hopefully it would be released by next week.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shubham412302:
Has anyone noticed this that out phone actually has LED but its faint.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] vahtmestar:
Where is it located ? 7 haven't noticed anything related to led.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shubham412302:
Besides the front speaker. Its on only when screen is on.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] beje86:
Wouldn't that be either the proximity sensor or the ambient light sensor for auto screen brightness?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
As rightfully mentioned, that is the light sensor or may be the proximity sensor. But if its the proximity sensor, why is it continuously on?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
Sorry guys been busy here is the version all functions work for me

Google camera Mod apk
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] irshad506:
Fingerprint Vibration and more

Please add on/off option for fingerprint vibration in android P because it bother.

As well add support for EXFAT SD card.

Pictures in night are yellow in Oreo please solve this problem as well.

THANKS
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
Buddy this is the wrong forum. Posting the bugs you face on xda wont help. Use the nokia community forums for reporting these bugs. Also, this is a thread for Android P and not Oreo.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Stevenwang68:
Hey guys， still no way to enable pill gesture? Has anyone tried to replace the Nokia-modified Quickstep launcher with pixel's Quickstep launcher on DP4?:(
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Doktaphex:
The pixel does not use Quickstep launcher, it uses the pixel launcher, and it will not help to enable the gesture navigation.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Ruskovak:
Android P is better for me. I had lag with Oreo and now its gone. :)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
Since last 2 days the battery usage SOT is not moving past 3 hours 38 minutes. I am watching a series in which each episode is roughly around 50 minutes. Today I watched 5 episodes which comes to around 4+ hours of SOT. Also there must be some usage from other activities too. It has stopped logging after 3 hours 38 minutes even after today's usage.

PS. I have already restarted the device to check this but gave the same result even today.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] salahmed:
August 20... The possible final version of Android P from Google
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
WOW. Good news but when do you think it will be available for 7+?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] domdom2020:
I believe it will come sometime in the middle of September.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Doktaphex:
Whenever it is, let's hope they release the kernel sources, as they are legally required to do.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
ya don't worry about that, all the modders community is waiting for it :D
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Srem:
Can anyone tell me if the screen colour accuracy/saturation is fixed in P? Or is there an option to adjust these settings?

Oreo can't be adjusted and I find reds especially bad
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] domdom2020:
https://www.change.org/p/hmd-global..._gb_1.v1.pacific_email_copy_en_2.fake_control

Please join the Change.org petition. This is for bootloader locking.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Sanjayrao20:
What's the shortcut for taking screenshots?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] BigD18t:
Volume down and power.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
Just flashed DP3, so far so good. No issues observed in last 2 hours.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] dan.socea:
Hi guys! Is the new navigation bar not accessible in the latest beta? I looked everywhere but can not find the option to enable it.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] SirGarmaples:
It's not present in this beta.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
it is present (if you did a full wipe u could see it) but i have searched all the system and data and still can't find the toggle or the package :eek: , Nokia really don't want it in this beta
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] dan.socea:
Apparently it's been removed in this latest beta.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Danchibald:
Is there any info about DP4 for Nokia 7 plus?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] spaha-bih:
the rumors says Android P will go official on august 20th, so I think we will go straight to the official version, and skip DP4.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] SirGarmaples:
I don't think so, Nokia will most probably be releasing Beta 4 in or after the next week since they had released Beta 3 in about two weeks from when the Pixel got it.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] riscum:
Exactly. I'm even betting new DP this monday or next monday. (Most likely next one though)

What i suspect is that the delay on the final release will be bigger.

DP's on the Nokia 7plus have been much less reliable than on the pixels. I wouldn't be surprised that the final release would take more time to get it bug free.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
I agree the game plan here is to release DP4 on the release date of P ? , and the final release after a month
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Hassaan24:
Can anybody confirm that oem unlock option in developer options in android p beta 3 is dim not accessible?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
here you go
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Brotuck:
If you do a upgrade and it was enabled it stays enabled. Still grayed out...

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nokia 7 plus met Tapatalk
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] SirGarmaples:
Anyone else experiencing random crashes in the Files app? It's strange and it also crashes when trying to rename a file, copy or move. :confused:

For now, I'll be using Solid Explorer.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] SirGarmaples:
Anyone know what does "logd" do? From the name, it might be something related to logging or it may be related to the BBS app itself.

It sits at the top in BBS in the processes tab.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Sanjayrao20:
I switched back to oreo around 8 hours back... But I've still not got the security patches. I'm still stuck on April. Please help. I even unregistered from previews.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Hassaan24:
If its enabled on oreo it says enabled after update right??

So in this case like yous can i able to unlock bootloader??
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Ruskovak:
Facebook app crashes when im trying to open comments section. Someone knows a fix for this one?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
as far as i know the july update bug hasn't been fixed yet on Oreo (there is a community forums and Nokia is working on it) you can check it
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shubham412302:
It works fine for me