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[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] moeq123:
As far as I can see this whole Situation; we will get a taste of Android P anyway. Either officially or non official.

Official: because there in fact is an unused Partition (unformatted)

Unofficial: because hobby dev peeps around the globe were able to make the oneplus 5t Support treble.. therefore custom Rom creators should be able to create Android P roms for it.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
Are y'all really surprised that we wouldn't get a P beta? Lol
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] fp1707:
Yes I'm in. Let's make a petition on change.org ?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Astroks:
Many people said of the oneplus 5t, it's the best against essencial phone... Better software, updates, design... But Essencial phone 1 have the beta xD :D

Now who is the best ??

:p

I have a 5t
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Astroks:
Android P require treble ?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] butterbeanmash:
I know this won't go down well, but did none of you do your homework on OnePlus before buying the 5t? OnePlus launch a new, replacement device every six months and concentrate on marketing and selling that; Every six months our new (to us) device gets moved to the back burner.

This is not a new strategy, and should not come as a surprise! Google how OnePlus 2 owners felt! I owned a 3t that was virtually obsolete four months later!

And every time this happens - every six months when a new device is launched - there is a thread on XDA to petition OnePlus about the unfairness of it all!

If this news is a surprise to anyone you should've been more aware of how the company operates.

Rant over.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
Really dont't care for stock android p beta.

Much prefer for oxygen beta program with android P :p

Stock android is very poor and lack customization and feature option that oxygen offer.

If i want stock android experiance better solution is AOSP custom rom with plenty of feature and customization insteed of totaly naked stock android by Google IMO.;):)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ps000000:
So we get OOS beta based on P later. (OP6 get first.)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] CrEaTiiOn_187:
I'm guessing we're still getting Treble support. There already is a /vendor partition created in one of the Beta updates iirc and they said: "Something exciting for you OnePlus 5/5T owners later this summer". So i'm guessing they're referring to Treble support.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cutmylifein2:
Where is it written?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] CrEaTiiOn_187:
Look at the screenshot. Last section of text.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cutmylifein2:
Later this year and later this summer are different my friend.

Later this year means December and not before that.. but OnePlus 6 will get it immediately on launch..

Essential phone has got it already.. y not us is the question
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] CrEaTiiOn_187:
Yh one does not always remember the exact words. P requires Treble we do not have Treble hence why we don't get it yet. If you really want it install MoKee ROM which enables Treble and wait for an Android P GSI.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] unrealmac:
Everyone should stop acting like treble is a hardware based thing.

The only reasons we did not get the beta is that Oneplus 1. is too lazy to deliver 2. wants to boost OP6 sales.

Treble is something completely software based and can be added at any given time (even without bricking the device).

I think the real reason we are complaining is (like the title says) that Oneplus is announcing stuff for a device that isn't even on sale yet.

It's like Google would have said "...and of course Pixel 3 is getting the beta from day one. We are already testing it internally and it is working great. In the meantime we are all very happy that you bought Pixel 2".
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] azsl1326:
Not surprising from OnePlus. Unfortunately, they only seem to be concerned with what's the best way to make more money even if it involves abandoning their current users. This move, like all the moves they make, is about money. Doesn't matter if they ignore their current flagship device or users. Sad but true.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] leo06:
How OnePlus abandoned current users? I guess because 5 and 5t don't have the latest Android available right now? Or maybe the OOS is not usable and full of bugs?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] azsl1326:
Why aren't they offering a trade-in promotion for 5T users?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bornaradusin:
i was able to go through the trade in but the amount is hilarious, better sell it on your own somewhere :fingers-crossed:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] null0seven:
Sir you give us 500 euro and the old phone & you walk home with new OnePlus 6 !:D
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bornaradusin:
Pretty much haha, to be honest i don't think oneplus 6 is worth it, few mm of screen, nasty notch, and more money, seems like 5t is the last one from them that i take
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] xocomaox:
They have not abandoned their current users. Anyone can make the assumption that most people have a OnePlus 3 or newer, given the lifespan of a smartphone these days. The OnePlus 3 is two year old at this point. It has the latest version of Android available right now and in a FREQUENTLY updated Beta program. This is also true for the 3T, the 5 and the 5T. Arguably the largest percentage of their current userbase.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I am also wondering whether Treble is mandatory for Android P. Did Google say anything about this?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] stankyou:
Devices released with Oreo out of the box is required to have Treble. Since 5T was released with Nougat, it's not mandatory.

https://www.androidauthority.com/project-treble-818225/

Sent from my OnePlus 5T
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
You know how people are. Something new is released and people demand it for older devices, because logic.

Also, props for your avatar. I personally think that album is trash, but they have some fire records under their belts.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] stankyou:
Haha I know right.

As for the avatar, well it was my favorite album then. After several releases I find the self-titled as my favorite.

Sent from my OnePlus 5T
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan [emoji6]
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Kookitza:
Android P Developer Preview 2 ported to the Motorola Moto Z
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Elmar_Raguse:
Jep same here... Just disappointed... Every single time something cool happens... Google arcore, project treble, and the p beta... Oneplus just doesn't care... That's the reason I am selling my 5t and switching to the Pixel 2 xl...
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
"OnePlus 5/5T friends, we'll have something nice lined up for you later this year." Also mentioned earlier in this thread...

So, Oneplus might bring Android P to 5/5T... :)

But, is Treble mandatory for Android P? If so, then Oneplus has to bring Treble to 5/5T. That would imply they changed their thoughts, because they've said they believed that modifying the partition layout via OTA is too risky and therefore "decided not to implement Project Treble on current OnePlus devices."

Or will there also be a non-Treble AOSP 9.0?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] CrEaTiiOn_187:
Treble is not Mandatory for P to work on Devices, it just takes longer to actually recieve the update as OEMs need to change all the things to their Layout and stuff. Actually they can implement it pretty easily as there is a partition of 1.6GB available on the 5/5T that is not used by the system(not even detected). Also in later Open Betas they were converting some HALs to the format that is needed for Treble so considering these things Treble could very well come the 5/5T devices.

What we know for sure is that we definitely will recieve Android P with or without Treble.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] worldsoutro:
Oneplus is a company, no kidding they are trying to make money.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Losing customers is not the best way to make money.

How do we know for sure Google will release a non-Treble version of AOSP 9.0?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] CrEaTiiOn_187:
Google always releases Source Code. Now if you want to build it with or without Treble support is up to the OEMs. They can either build a GSI(Generic System Image) or this has been build by Google (not sure haven't read up too much on Treble yet) or they go for the normal route. Build P add their own OEM skin on top and push it out to the 5/5T.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Thanks. I asked, because I thought Treble is going to change things that much, such that you can't build a non-Treble AOSP from the same source code. But, i guess i was wrong. :)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Lebo-Wog:
Too much complaining here, Samsung s8 and note 8 owners are still receiving the 8.0 update...

the op5t will recieve android p for sure, and it will be ported from the OP6, so if you really want it, installing the ported rom wouldn't be hard, and it should be as risky and buggy as installing p beta on the op6.

I am excited for the op6 lunch tomorrow, we will recieve alot of stuff from it both officially and unofficially (like face unlock got officially ported to the op5), the cameras on the op6 are very similar to the op5t, sooo I'm hoping the camera software gets ported to op5t and have better low light images.

Cheers.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
This.

These people are in here freaking out about not getting P beta like we won't get P at all.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] kermex:
Agree! I sugest by starting a thread here, and gather all users.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Kookitza:
Android P beta for the OnePlus 6 is now available
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Cpt. Strawberry Crepe:
Time to wait for someone to port it over to 5T. Blessed be you.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] CZ Eddie:
I don't care about Android P at all.

It won't support Substratum theme options so screw that ish! :rolleyes:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] unrealmac:
Treble is 100% mandatory for Android P if you want the Google Play Store to be installed.

If Oneplus releases an Android P update it will have treble. The thing I can really think of is that Oneplus will release an OOS Version with an Android P skin and that will be the next time we will freak out.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Says who? Because, if Treble is mandatory for P, then the Xiaomi Mi A1 also won't get P, while being an Android One phone... :confused:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] haikalizz:
Treble is not mandatory but is recommended for new phones
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Cpt. Strawberry Crepe:
Where did you get that? Out of your a*s? Don't spread misinformation. "Google requires every Certified Android device launching with Android 8.0 Oreo and above to support Treble."
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] haikalizz:
I don't see the a lot of the newer devices launching with oreo with treble if it's required when launching with oreo and above and I don't see treble as a requirement to pass the Android CDD.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Cpt. Strawberry Crepe:
Really? Tell me a device that launched with Android 8.0/8.1 and DOESN'T have Treble.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] hpbrasil:
I will answer you in a simple and complex way so you understand one thing ...

1- Android Oneplus P of the 6 comes beta in partnership with google ...

2- Stop thinking that Oneplus has obligation to launch Beta for the 5 / 5T, the company continues to support the 8.1 and when leaving the official P will be released for the One 5 / 5T ...

3 - If it is looking bad sale your device and get a Google Pixel, and stop whining i little ****

:fingers-crossed:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bradl79:
ummm.... that is almost every business, Apple and Samsung do the same, Oneplus is still bringing Open Betas to the 3 and 3T
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] haikalizz:
Ok my fault. All devices that comes with 8.1 requires treble support. Looked at the wrong test suite. But still P doesn't require treble to run
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Cpt. Strawberry Crepe:
Of course. No Android version will require treble to run UNLESS some years pass by. Maybe in Android 11+. If P required treble to run we would be screwed. :P
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] haikalizz:
I've seen people trying to port P into a Xiaomi Redmi 2. Since op5t has unofficial treble support, why don't try a generic P image for treble?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Cpt. Strawberry Crepe:
Bceuase lots of things will be broken, starting from kernel
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Yes, that was my question: is Treble mandatory for P on existing devices? So, probably not. You better be right, otherwise we would be screwed indeed. For new devices it's mandatory since Oreo.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
https://youtu.be/BekWYF1RuQk

This is what you guys want to sign that petition so bad for. To run an extremely lackluster Android P beta build. Have fun with that.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] M3drvr:
I could see Android Q being mandatory to be honest. Since anything that launched with O had to support it, and P as well. Who knows what else they'll bring to the table due to treble? What loss would Google have if they make Q mandatory to support it? Something that launched with N and didn't? That's 3 years old bare minimum.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cutmylifein2:
Nokia 7 is getting android p dp3 and we are still trying to improve our Oreo build, camera and stuff
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] hpbrasil:
MiMimimimi
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cutmylifein2:
Grow up baby... Grow up...

Stop whining around here like a baby..

Go to some kids website and watch some cartoons whining around like u joker
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] hpbrasil:
Look who is crying in the forum because of Android P, have not yet sold their device to buy a Pixel?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cutmylifein2:
No one f***ing wants ur advice to purchase a pixel or a Ferrari.. u have money u purchase it.. don't bloody give free advices when not asked for one...

I have paid money for this phone and other phones of same amount are getting android p.. why should we be left out... Y can't they give us an option to update to android p..

They owe to us.. each and every OnePlus buyer
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] gyan9430:
Yes completely agree with you , this is not a way to push back a device just 6-8 month old while other similar devices are getting full development support.

Plus what they do when you ask on there forum they lock the post delete all the comments and restrict any similar type of threads. This is slap on our face .

Last year my 3T goat oreo update earlier than 5 so i bought 5T and look what happened ???..
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] hpbrasil:
They owe nothing to anyone, the update will usually come when they get the final version of Android ... Stop crying.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fir3blade:
Wrong.

They owe us a great camera as they advertised..

For example
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Yash93:
I understand are phone is the latest among flagships device but still the marketing of one plus is they launch new phone every 6months so it was bound to happen.. & About camera oneplus is not advertised to be a great camera its more about performance speed always.. yes the camera is not upto a mark for flagship but gcam is way better.. clarity is great you have an option try that instead.. & Even now our phone runs great snapdragon 835 is a great chipset which still runs very good & battery life is great...
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Rajeev:
Gcam with Dots :silly:.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
Im sure will see Android P beta based on Oxygen erlier autumn when Google finalize the OS.

I personal don't care and don't want to test right now and have to deal with bugs all day.;)

Also i'm using substratum theme and until find a solution with Android P continiue uses custom theme engine even with unofficial throuth some kind or workround i don't care about P.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] unrealmac:
So after yesterdays news we for now know for sure that we will be getting Android P and (maybe, more likely not because.....Oneplus) Android Q.

Android P requires Project Treble and this is the one thing I was hoping for: official treble support from OP because this expands the unofficial lifetime of this device by a lot.

Btw: I am really impressed by Essential and how they perform in terms of software updates. If the Ph-1 had an OLED screen I would have preferred it over a OP5t. I still think that this is the best looking phone in a LONG time. So sad that there won't be a Ph-2 :(
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] M3drvr:
Agreed about Essential. I was so impressed that it was going to be my next phone. Not only did they provide major OS updates, along with Beta, and Security updates. They provided updates that drastically improved the camera! Went from a not so good camera, to a top 5 contender. Thats what i consider great software updates.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] AbdNz:
Now OP 5/5T officially support project treble, so now we have some chances of getting Android P beta support.

Fingers crossed
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] roytje2803:
Hopefully OnePlus will make Android P beta available for the OnePlus 5/5T now we have been given the treble update :)

Fingers crossed
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] unrealmac:
I don't want to destroy any hopes but there isn't even a 1% chance that they will provide Android P beta.

The whole beta thing is marketing for the OP6. They now added 5/5T to treble because they commited to 2 years updates and they seem to understand that treble is worth it in the long term.

I am just wondering when treble support hits the stable release. Normally from beta to stable it's often pretty long but then the stable updates always works flawlessly.

Anyway. Now we can be sure that there will be any Android Q GSI that we will be able to flash :)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
The beta honestly isn't important. An actual P release is. Which we'll be getting
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fir3blade:
Now having treble support Android P betas may be more likely.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Xak:
Who cares about P beta. Betas are buggy. We know we will get the non beta version. Not buggy.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ishan.ranatunga:
since 5T support project treble, we will get a stable version later this year i think. so why are you crying for a beta version. :P
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
We'd be getting P regardless of Treble or not. We'd now just be getting it faster because of it
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fir3blade:
Betas are buggy is nothing but generalizing.

OOS betas weren't buggy for years.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Gawa77:
No stable build without betas ... Only a question of time and with treble it will be delivered faster ... so what up ... :eek: :svetius: :cool:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cutmylifein2:
Android P beta ROM ported for our devices..

A heads up though it is only compatible with mokkee implementation of project treble

https://www.xda-developers.com/android-p-beta-port-snapdragon-project-treble-devices/
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Void_Dragon07:
wow noob question but whats the mokkee implementation?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Explyy:
It's an unofficial Treble implementation for the 5T by XiNGRZ, MoKee dev. (https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/mokee-rom-brought-project-treble-t3776107)

He repurposed an unused 1.4GB partition as vendor partition.

---------- Post added at 07:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:17 PM ----------

There seems to be something wrong with OnePlus' Treble implementation: even proper GSI (so not "semi"-GSI like the Android P Beta) don't boot (I tried LOS 15.1 and AOSP).

Hopefully the next OB will solve this issue, it's kind of ridiculous that "hacked" Treble implementations (like MoKee) work, while the official OnePlus implementation does not.
[Treble-Enabled Device Guides, News, & Discussion] kanaan360:
Hey I was wondering what would the best method be to bring project treble support to all devices I know that vendor partitions and the partition table might defer based on manufacturer and I know that a script for every device is out of the question, but let's say I wanted to make a script for all OnePlus or all unlocked Moto devices since 2013 what would be the best method to do so and is anyone willing to help me in this project as I am rather new to coding
[Treble-Enabled Device Guides, News, & Discussion] Araa01:
Project Trable only for android 8.0 because this is featured by google.
[Treble-Enabled Device Guides, News, & Discussion] CosmicDan:
Repartitioning is the easiest part. Getting the vendor shim is the real work. You can't just copy hw libs to vendor and have it automatically work.

For repartitioning, safest to write a script for each device. Every partition table differs so a universal solution would be too prone to errors - and this is semi-hard brick territory (e.g. could require testpoint and EDL flash)
[General Questions and Answers] filipsnew:
This question arises from the fact that the app seems certainly useful on Android 6, but not in 7, because of the implementation of the feature of forcing doze to skip sensor detection of device moves. Do you think this is right?
[Android Apps and Games] Tilly pham:
2018 has been a great years of mobile games, especially for fighting genre. I have recently come across some ninja similar-looking games which have the same genre on Android.

When I type the key words “Ninja Shadow”, these are so similar that i had to try all of these and they are quite similar in gameplay.

However, after a while, some get really boring. Here are some of my personal opinion and ranking, hope if you have any interested in those games , you might find it useful and are able to choose the right game for you.

3. So stand in number 3 is the game called: “Shadow of Death”

At first impression, the sound effect is absolutely amazing with cool soundtrack. The gameplay is very simple but I found it quite boring from the start because of the “frozen” enemies.

When you move you cannot fight and in return.

However the skills are quite nice with cool effect come afterwards

2. In number 2 I have “Stickman Legends”

So this game is quite popular already. It has good music, nice characters, epic skills

However it can not pleased me due to the fight itself. It confused me somehow due to the creeps, they just all over the place and I can not see with my eyes where I am and how my skills go.

It is quite a pity.

1. In the first place in my list is “Overdrive: Ninja Shadow Revenge”

This game is not popular yet I suddenly found it and tried it. It also has good soundtrack, nice characters, epic skills as well. However the pace is not so fast and you got to see what you are actually fight with.

It’s just that the game is quite hard but I like challenge you know.

Comment your opinion for me. Thanks
[Asus Zenfone 5 (2018, ZE620KL) Questions & Answers] Kevinkuensken:
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Thx
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