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[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MatthiasDS:
Nonsense. I have never done anything to "tease, provoke or insult you". I've been polite throughout and if you're going to disagree, feel free to quote me on it.

When you are listing ten so called bugs and some of those are clearly not (seriously, "some magisk modules not working" is objectively not a bug) then it doesn't matter who I am, you're wrong either way.

Sure, the guy that's accusing others of being insulting, provoking and teasing is going to be patronizing. Good effort man.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
You are surely a POLITE man (although in your own terms) and you know a lot about Android. But I am sure this is the only smartphone where you have used Pie and that's why you are pointing out my "some magisk modules not working" which are working fine on Pixel 2. Secondly, if you have to quote the bugs I reported, you should quote all and let us see how many people call them "not bugs". And again, you are POLITE in your own way as I am in my way. You may call me rude for telling the truth, but I don't care as long as I know what I am saying.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MatthiasDS:
First of all, that's a baseless assumption.

Secondly, it is not up to Nokia to make sure Magisk modules are working. Basically those are modules that tamper with the Android OS and evidently when a new major OS version is out things might break. That it doesn't break on pixel, fine, it's still up to Magisk devvers to ensure their modules work with the new OS version, not Nokia. And it's still not a bug.

I've given my idea on your full list you posted in the other thread. I've given just one example here to highlight my point that when you post things that are objectively not correct, you will get called out for it.

I'm not calling you rude for reporting on bugs. That's fine. I'm calling you rude because you are basically saying me and others who are saying they're not experiencing some bugs are liars and just "don't admit it". That's not "telling the truth". Nor is it anywhere near polite, just like patronizing people isn't.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
When someone denies all the bugs and says "not facing any of them" and calls it a device specific issue, that's ironic! A problem or two may be device specific, but someone needs to know that these updates are universal and meant for everyone and are not device specific. These are the people who prevent the developers from improving as they never find any bugs or issues whatsoever. But I would definitely report bugs as I expect my device bugs free and I can point out each small bugs and expect HMD to fix them.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MatthiasDS:
Not sure on the device specific statement, but when I say I'm not experiencing listed bugs it's not being ironic, it's telling the truth. What gain would there be for me to lie about it?

Of course you should report bugs. Even if not everyone is experiencing them, they still should be looked into.

But don't call people liars because they're not experiencing bugs you are experiencing.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
My comment was not for people who are not facing a few problems. My comment was for those (not taking any name), who reject all the bugs and say "not facing any of them". That sucks! If HMD geta to hear them, they would think everything is fine and no polishing is required. And I know what you are saying about Magisk modules. The reason I inclided that point is because if a module is qorking fine on some Pie based devices and not on other, then it must be a problem with the device or qith the specific update.

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If I was the only one who faced the bugs, then I could have said the problem is with my device. But when other people reported the same type of bugs (not necessarily all the bugs that I mentioned), and then suddenly someone says "not facing a single bug", that means he is either trying to be oversmart or he means to say we have defective handsets and his handset was made with special care. And trust me, there are people who find immense pleasure by proving their devices are the best and everyone else has a faulty device (even if rhtey belong to the same family). Look around and see how many people have rolled back or want to roll back to Oreo and people are reporting bugs everyday. If there was no bug at all, nobody would want to go back to a old update. Anyway, let us not go off topic.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MatthiasDS:
They should still strive to make everyone happy. So report bugs, go ahead. But the solution should not be that people who are not experiencing bugs should lie that they in fact are.

For all we know it could be hardware or driver related. Different phones make for different hardware and drivers. A non functioning module could be triggered by that without it having to be due to Nokia's Pie update. Magisk do things on a level normal apps don't, it's not Nokia's responsibility.

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Or that there are differences in batches or something like it. We already know two different types of screens are used and one is much better than the other.

This is the main thing here: others not experiencing bugs does not invalidate or deny you having bugs. Don't take it personal.

Gladly, but then don't provoke others in the first place.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Saswata Chakraborty:
Cool!!
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Stransky:
Anyone in UK with N7+ TA-1055 received PIE OTA update yet? Or the Oct security patch.

I have an N8 which is not Android one and it already has the Oct patch. TA-1012
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] divvykev:
I'm in the uk but sideloaded the update. Looks like the UK are always the last to receive any update.

I think HMD should be taken to task about android one claims. They're not fulfilling their promises.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Stransky:
Seems strange that the Nokia 8 which is not Android One should get the Oct patch in UK and the Nokia 7+ which is Android One has to wait for it, never mind the Pie update.

Both my phone's are sim free and not dependant on any particular carrier so that is not a few (EE in particular are slow).
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
Friends,

My previous calling concern is still there. For better understanding, let me quickly update.

Post last update to Pie - stable, I am unable to make calls most of the times. 8 out of 10 times i get only dead air and nothing else or if sometimes the called party picks up my call. I cannot hear a thing nor they hear me. Post restart it works for a call or two and again the same issue.

Anybody else is facing this problem? Any remedy?

Thanks
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Fygaroo:
Did you try factory reset? For better understanding its best to do a factory reset and then report bugs if they are still present .
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] NeBouse:
Updated to Pie yesterday (official OTA) and so far only one "bug" detected :

I have no tonality when I call a mobile phone (meaning I don't hear in my phone that the other phone is ringing).

I have tonality when I call a "regular" phone btw...

Did anyone encounter this as well ?

(Please don't tell me about factory reset, you should'nt have to do a factory reset after an OTA update if that update is not borked...)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] xidian:
Interesting , I have been on the beta program from 1 tell the official release all through zip without data reset , no issues here what so ever :confused:
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Fygaroo:
After a major update factory reset is recommended thats just how it is and you should try it . I had some issues after pie but fr fixed it.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] NeBouse:
That is true when you flash roms, not with OTA...

Do you really think the average user does even know what a factory reset is ? Not everyone is tech savvy as we are on this forum, and we represent less than 1% of users of this phone...

So no, factory reset should not be mandatory after an OTA. If it is, then it's because Nokia didn't do their job correctly.

EDIT: I'm not saying I won't do it, I'm just saying that we should not have to do this to have a perfectly working phone after updating...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Fygaroo:
Well its not only nokia . I dont know how many phones you had but every time i updated my phone to a new os version i had to FR . The average user in my local community knows about the factory reset or at least has a family member that knows about it. If something dosnt work you try FR , at least thats what we do here.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] artifex21:
I have the same bug. Sideloaded OTA without factory resetting my device
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] NeBouse:
Just for the sake of it, I've done a Factory Reset and guess what : still the same problem...

Just lost 1h of my life for nothing ^^

That bug is not really a big deal but it is a bit annoying not knowing if the other phone is ringing or not...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Fygaroo:
That bug is a big deal as you cant hear if the phone rings. But fr was worth a shot and now you can try and use nokia suport app.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
Yes i have this problem as well. I get a dead tone / air and when i check call minutes would have started but i can't hear a thing.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
Yes i did some days back. Even i tried going back to Oreo and was able to downgrade to Oreo but same problem was there.

I have contacted Nokia support and they gave following settings. I tried them as well but still the same issue.

Screen shots for you all to check and try (if you are also fab a similar issue)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
Adding SC
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] NeBouse:
Thanks for your feedback, I've tried all the steps of your screenshots with no luck of course ^^
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] shailinder:
I know, these steps are nothing but time pass from nokia support. I will try and take it up with them again.

Do let me know if you find a solution.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] jv.batista:
Not quite on topic, but related, the October security patch is not out yet right?

According to their website all the releases before came out on the 18th as clockwork but they missed the mark for this month...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] d0dgebizkit:
Any reason why this hasn't fully rolled out yet? I want the fully stable version so I can use Android Pay again... I don't want to go back to Oreo.

I don't get why they're delaying... They've got the update ready as done already have it...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] grubber24:
Today, for the 1st time I had a huge problem commonly faced after the stable Pie update! The screen was completely blacked out all of a sudden. I could hear sounds, check messages from my smartwatch, toggle music using a Bluetooth headset, but the screen was dead. The phone didnt restart after holding on to the power button, but thankfully i was able to restart it using the power and volume up key combinations. Now its back to normal. Anybody faced this?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] schetz:
Faced it twice actually, first time on DP 4.1 .

Had to restart with power + volume key as well on DP .

On stable, it remedied itself in 5 minutes (received phone call). And I didn't have time at that point, otherwise I would go through power + vol routine.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] jaskiratsingh:
I too have faced this once. It was fixed when i received a call.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Rubens95:
I faced a few minutes ago the same problem, I called myself with another phone but nothing happened like my phone was turned off. I had to restart using power+vol up
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Bysler:
Today it happened to me the first time. A (hold volume up + power) restart did the trick.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] trveller72:
Had the same issue this Monday.

It was after i had my phone being scanned at airport security. I thought that was the reason.

Phone came back after 15 minutes when I pressed just vol up without restartijg.

Very scary considering my plane tickets were on the phone:D
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] AshuYadav00:
Happened to me two weeks ago, my device was like it was bricked for two hours. This happed before too like power button stopped responding, screen doesn't on.

Well these problems show that update is still not quite stable.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] sam@123:
Is anybody having an issue with unlocking.Sometime phone gets stuck on lockscreen while unlocking
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] aniket3700:
Bugs found so far

1. The no audio while calling issue

2. Media sound stopping sometimes

Have to restart the phone to make both of them work again ....hope they get fixed.

Also , is there an option to disable the notifications popping up at the top of the screen in pie?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] aniket3700:
How do I rollback to Oreo???
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] divvykev:
i am assuming that you are new on XDA so I will send the link to a thread for this

https://xdaforums.com/nokia-7-plus/how-to/finally-downgrade-phone-official-t3849437

Not that difficult to search!
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] AshuYadav00:
In dark mode some apps bottom bar remain white like in message and YouTube. While in WhatsApp or any third party app it is black.

Is this a bug or this happen with google apps only.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
Follow the link given above, If you need assistance do not hesitate to contact me...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] AshuYadav00:
Some google app like google allo, rewards, Hangouts bottom bar is black though.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] mrkrazy:
October security patch is out but no bug or camera fixes...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
No bug fixes? This is really not OK. The have released Pie a month ago, and didn't fix anything so far.

Not serious if you ask me, even if multiple bugs have been reported by multiple users...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] mrkrazy:
Yep, I agree... Nokia is launching way too many phones and the software / development of each model is suffering!
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] d0dgebizkit:
Did the pie beta change the default font of the phone's text for everyone?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] sam@123:
Did they remove gestures in Oct update
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] mrkrazy:
You just meet to reboot and they'll be back. Even twice if it doesn't work the first time... Once was enough for me :)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] sam@123:
Thanks.Reboot fixed it
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] magiQx:
Hi all,

I (and i'm sure a lot of others too) am still waiting for the official OTA Pie update for Europe (Romania) model TA-1046. Are there any news regarding the Europe rollout? I read about sideloading it but many are reporting bugs with that version of pie and im inclined to wait until these are fixed.

Thanks
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] cristi.blidariu:
I received 2 day's ago official Android pie,model ta-1046,operator Telekom.RO
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] magiQx:
I bought it without carrier brand. (emag). Yet still no pie.

How is it? Ant bugs so far?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] cristi.blidariu:
Same here, bought from eMag,from my point of view is run smoothly,I feel like the battery is drain a little fast compare with oreo,well it past only 2 day's,I will see in future how better will work
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] magiQx:
guess ill wait then. maybe ill receive it the following days.

Can you maybe post a screenshot?

is there a way i can download and install it manually?

do we have a list with the available versions released per country?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] cristi.blidariu:
there you go

ps:You can download from here android pie,then sideload
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] magiQx:
Thanks! Already looked at that link but wasn't sure.

Gonna play a bit now.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] cristi.blidariu:
K,good luck :)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] magiQx:
so, probably not the right way how i did it.

i was on this: WW 2.22A SP03>WW 2.22M August 2018 (B2N-222I-0-00WW-B05-update.zip)

then downloaded and installed this:

WW 2.22M August 2018>WW 2.22M SP01 September 2018 (B2N-222O-0-00WW-B05-update.zip)

and after that, this one:

WW 2.22M SP02 October 2018 (B2N-222R-0-00WW-B05-update.zip)

Now im downloading and will install this:

Android Pie 9.0:

WW 3.22C September 2018 (B2N-322C-0-00WW-B01-update.zip)

and after that, this one

WW 3.22C_SP01 October 2018 (B2N-322D-0-00WW-B01-update.zip)

I think i could have gone directly to Pie, right?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] cristi.blidariu:
Yes,I have the same version,as you can see from screenshot
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] magiQx:
I know, i saw that.

Tried to install B2N-322C-0-00WW-B01-update. No luck, i get some error, see attached file. Any idea?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] cristi.blidariu:
It might be a file corruptions,download again,if you success give a factory reset in order to run smooth
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] magiQx:
Thanks but i tried that. Downloaded several times also over mobile data and wifi. Same error. Should i maybe try pie developper prebiew and then the final version?

A screenshot to see how it is now. Cannot get past that.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
You are on Oreo with October patch, right?

You cannot install Pie on the top of your build because your current one is newer than Pie you are trying to install...

Only you can try to do it like if you are rolling back...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] magiQx:
Thank you.

i eventually figured it out after some research. i did switch partitions from a to b and then adb sideloaded pie. now its installing the pie october update. Hope i didnt mess up things now.

Btw, what happens now to partition a if on b is pie?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
That's the right way to do it.

Speaking of partitions you are OK, but you cannot go back to Oreo if you have already installed October patch...

Pie it is ;)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] magiQx:
First impression, i like it. Feels smoother than Oreo and now i have AptX which i missed. I'm curious how it behaves the coming days.

About going back to Oreo, i've read this and actually used some of the guides in that discussion to switch partitions and install Pie. I skipped reverting back and went directly to Pie.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
Yes, it is smooth and fast, but has to many glitches and bugs for my taste.

The guide you used some parts of works but only if you haven't made any changes to original Pie build, which you did by installing October patch...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] magiQx:
ill report back in a couple of days, if there is something noteworthy. For now the only annoying thing is that i cannot lo into whatsapp any more. when i enter my phone number and request the verification code, it says unavailable and to try again in 5 minutes. Been trying since the update a couple of hours back and also on 2 different phones.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
Strange. I am using it a lot and it was running without problems on mine. Did you wipe the phone after installation of Pie (I mean the first version not the October patch)?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] magiQx:
Solved it. Funny actually. I received a confirmation mail from WhatApp that it actually was an issue on their server side. It works now.

Just a bad timed weird coincidence.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
OK, glad it works now.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] I_m_animesh:
No October security patch here..
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
Why don't you sideload, it takes 2 minutes literally...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] I_m_animesh:
Its here...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] d0dgebizkit:
Not interested in sideloading - I don't get why is taking so long, everything was so positive with the speed and quality that the previews came and the announcement of a release in sept ... And a supposed official launch in sept where like 4 people got the official version... And now radio silence. What's going on?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] jv.batista:
it's called 'we f****d up and don't have the b***s to say it...'
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] azizmulhim:
I got the october security patch on model 1046..no enhancement for camera...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
No, just security patch. I am on Oreo an October patch, and I still have the oldest camera firmware...

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Why not interested in sideloading? It is very easy and it is the official way...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] Stransky:
Still on Oreo 8.1 TA-1055 (UK) and just got Oct security patch. What has happened to Pie update we were told was being released for 7+.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
Yes, we got it long time ago. Obviously there is some problem on the island, and as far as I know you are the only who didn't get it yet in Europe.

You didn't miss anything because it is full of bugs and glitches, and looks more like a beta than a stable release.

Still, if you want it now you can sideload at any time.

Cheers
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] divvykev:
Either your carrier or the Uk authorities are holding it back. That's according to HMD.

I sideloaded Pie and got the Pie October update ota. Question is,why would the carrier or authority allow an update for an OS that has not been approved.

The reality is, HMD are in a mess. Too many phones and not enough people who know what they are doing.

Know it's no help to you but it's how it is. They have no idea.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MatthiasDS:
Please don't state this as if it is a fact. Pie has been running beautifully on mine without apparent bugs or glitches. Has made this an even better phone than it was on Oreo.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] pujolsk:
First, I wasn't talking to you.

Second, you should go and see your oculist...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] I_m_animesh:
Battery drain is the biggest issue i m facing on pie which was never in oreo...
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] MatthiasDS:
You can drop the attitude. You're talking in a public thread on a public forum, you can expect replies from anyone. Especially when you make a very generalistic remark that isn't representative for everyone.

I don't need an oculist, Pie is great on my device.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] AshuYadav00:
I don't know why, but I'm having many glitches in this update, sudden change in font size, hang between swipe up gesture, navigation bar suddenly change to white when im using dark mode, battery drainage, touch response hang. And some other minute glitches. which really annoys me.

And also I tried factory reset, still same.

Is my device defected?

Should I install pie again?
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] BigD18t:
Pie on mine was a bit buggy when it went stable, but since the October update it's been great, better battery life, no lockups and face unlock works, feels snappier too
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] wapvikas:
I think dp 4.1wasmuch better than both September n October public update

And i find no difference between September n October updated

The navigation bar area n dpi problem is the biggest concern for me... There are too many bugs ... Wish I could have go back to oreo..

Font size change automatically.. ( check attachment)
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] AshuYadav00:
These are the same problem with mine too

See the font size difference in both article in the attachment.
[Nokia 7 Plus Questions & Answers] d0dgebizkit:
The same thing happened with me but more extreme... I'm on the last DP still though.

(The beautiful background is a photo I took in Heifa, Israel )