yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] azn_flip:
Hey guys I'm purepnoy_01@yahoo.com and that was my ad on craigslist that was flagged.

Now heres my side I'm not selling the Kaiser unlocker software itself I'm just simply selling my service to other people that want to maximize the potential of there tilt. if I'm breaking any law i apologize for this and i will stop doing this service asap.. Again i really apologize for my actions it wont happen again..I will modify my ad on craigslist ill just sell my tilt with the games+ software that i purchased...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] azn_flip:
Heres the new link to my ad as i promise i have EDITED my ad.

If I'm still breaking any law plz let me know i will change them asap... again i do apologize for my actions thankz

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/ele/609869145.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Don't you think it would've been wise to seek distribution permission before using someone else's hard work to your benifit.

How would you like it if you woke up tomorrow & found I had sold the motor out of your car? Should I have let you know or made arrangement before hand with you? Maybe give you some credit? Since I fix a ton of bricked Kaisers here, have been around these devices before PPC 2002 came out, I'm sure I know my way around CE as well if not better than you. So maybe I'll be posting $0.50 unlock & modification service. Why not? I do it for free all day some days.

BTW,

the mods now have your IP number thanks to your post! I guess we'll now see if it matches posts from another user name!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Olipro:
if you want to sell the unlocker then FIRST negotiate it with me, the software is *not* licensed for commercial purposes whatsoever.

that said, if someone's too stupid to be bothered to do it themselves and wants to pay you for a SIM Unlock then if you want to offer that service, you can license my software from me on a royalty basis, everyone wins.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] 4yunweb:
get those Bastards !!!

now seriously, i think that's a good proposal, a win-win. Olipro certainly deserves the royalty.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
Yay! A Happy ending! Everyone Wins!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irockash:
From my understanding, he wasn't selling the unlocker, but doing the unlocking. For instance, I unlocked my roomate's iPhone, charged him lunch. Sure he was capable of doing it himself, but he preferred I did it; I seem to follow instructions better (or know when to detract from directions).

Now that doesn't mean I agree with was done, if anything he should've made an arrangement with Oli. Proper credit should be given where it is deserved.

I've unlocked a few of my friend's phones with software on this site, so if you want your cut, I've got a few burgers waiting!

Edit: To throw this in there, I only charged them lunch because I was using my free time, and was hungry at the time, I've also done it for free. That iPhone was a mess (solidified I would never get one), took a total of 5 hours. I got hibachi for that one!

Also, not over yet, did we get the guy from France?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
HOWEVER, Since you use Handango's name & offer LISENCED software & games to be transfered, I would be expecting contact, a nice phone call (since you posted your phone number) or a letter from the SIAA.

Not fun buddy. I think the lasty SIAA fine I heard of was 10K for the first offense.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
There is a HUGE difference between unlocking a friends device for free & using somebody else's intelectual property for commercial purposes.

Just like music. you can copy it & play it for friends, but you cannot broadcast or sell it or use it for any financial gain without consent & license
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] azn_flip:
GSLEON3	Don't you think it would've been wise to seek distribution permission before using someone else's hard work to your benifit.

How would you like it if you woke up tomorrow & found I had sold the motor out of your car? Should I have let you know or made arrangement before hand with you? Maybe give you some credit? Since I fix a ton of bricked Kaisers here, have been around these devices before PPC 2002 came out, I'm sure I know my way around CE as well if not better than you. So maybe I'll be posting $0.50 unlock & modification service. Why not? I do it for free all day some days.

BTW, the mods now have your IP number thanks to your post! I guess we'll now see if it matches posts from another user name!!!

again i wont argue with you..like i said b4 i do apologize for my action once my extra tilt is sold i wont be doing this anymore...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] azn_flip:
GSLEON3	HOWEVER, Since you use Handango's name & offer LISENCED software & games to be transfered, I would be expecting contact, a nice phone call (since you posted your phone number) or a letter from the SIAA.

Not fun buddy. I think the lasty SIAA fine I heard of was 10K for the first offense.

I didnt buy the software at HANDAGO.com i was just giving example or a proof that it cost $20 a game
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ~~Tito~~:
There is a quote button you know.:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
LOL doesn't know how to use the quote button but knows how to unlock phones. LOL.

Not sure if I would trust his work :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ~~Tito~~:
LOL, for a sec I thought it was him. . . then I realized he was quoting.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] azn_flip:
Here you go..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
LOL you still didn't do it right.

Way to go Einstein. :)

Oh and btw way I seriously doubt you paid over $200 for all those games. Nice job selling hacked games. I hope you get busted. I seriously do.

If somebody is dumb enough to buy a $600 dollar tilt then they deserve what they get. You can go to AT&T store and pay less for a brand new one.

From the looks of it you are using Dutty's ROM LOL.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ~~Tito~~:
Enough guys, let him leave peacefully. If he barks back, then FEED, FEED!!

Ok, Olipro, what should we do?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
So you're using a trademarked name for an example. Hmmm....I wonder where you bought the sofware from, lol....

I intimately know of another forum, very, very itimately... I guess I could check into the all IP numbers there, see if they match the ones here & I bet then I'd know EXACTLY where you "bought" the software from.

Just always remember, that there must be honor even among thieves & when you want to make money online, the last person you want to piss off is a really tech savie person that has the knowledge to bypass all sorts of electronic security measures.

I promise to be nice though, I won't subscribe your # to any sms or 976 call back cons, scams or spam & my word is golden.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ~~Tito~~:
This is how you do it, all you do is clikc the quote button on the persons post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Like this, Tito???? Wow.

Anyway, I agree with the great & wise Tito. Enough is enough & at least the guy reached out & owned his crap. Not many would do even that much!

So now it's all on Olipro, his decision to make.

I had to bust your chops a bit azn_flip. But I think that the way you took the flames from everyone & actually took the time to respond here & ask for foregiveness & acceptance is a big first step that many would avoid. I commend you for taking that step. I believe you are probably a good guy that just made a move without really thinking it through. We've all done that at least once in our lives.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ~~Tito~~:
Why thank you :p. Lets let Olipro decide, I am sure he has had a good chuckle from this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] azn_flip:
thank you guys...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ~~Tito~~:
Sorry for being a ****, its that time of the day :p.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] grandpareza:
you must have balls the size of coconuts. If I was doing something like that I would have just ran as hard as I could. Though it was unmanly in the first place, it is pretty manly of you to admit it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
This whole thread is like a good thriller book(detective novel). In the beggining there was a crime, then the thief showed up, I am looking forward to the end.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irockash:
But we still have the problem of the French guys, right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
I think I have misunderstood it, so the one that was apologizing is not the French guy?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Olipro:
no, sadly not, just need to out-sell the ****er.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
ok, so this is not the last chapter?

I hope u will get him.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
I don't normally do this but I would like to quote Sharon Stone in this instance.

"Some people deserve to die" - The Quick and the Dead
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
I hope u dont mean me.:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
LOL, I'm sure ATW just got a kick out of your literary comment. As to the "Die Bastard" I'm sure he was refering to "Pepe LaPew" or whatever the "French Flogger" is know as these days.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
I know for a fact that many of the games you have listed are commercial games. You are breaking the law by offering to sell them unless you are actually transferring a legally purchased license to them. If you only bought the game once then you only have 1 license to transfer.

The remaining games are Freeware and I believe that the freeware license model specifically prohibits commercial distribution. IIRC, it actually states that if you incluse the freeware in any "Bundle" then you can only charge a menial fee for assembly of the bundle. Charging $10 per game is selling a copy of the game and violates that license, again breaking US Law.

Just ask AstraWare if they're okay with you selling their software under your model.

I have a PSP and purchased a "Pandora Battery & JigStick Kit" from a very honest seller who went to great pains to make sure every buyer know that the information neede to make this kit was avaliable on the internet for free. Also, just to buy the needed battery and Memory stick would cost over $40. He got a deal buying them in a lot and was only charging $50 shipped for the whole kit. Sure he made a bit but he did it right and he even told the creaters of the Battery & Stick what he was doing. Other sellers were chargin from 80 to 100+ for the same thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] azn_flip:
Ok im sorry about that.. i just reposted my add i took out everything now basically im just selling my extra tilt...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Thank you for making that correction.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
File a report with eBay

What you can do is click on "Report this item" that is at the bottom of each listing, and follow the steps to report "Offering to electronically send or receive copyrighted material" or pick one of the other options, whatever you think fits best. I did this on the one I found that's still active from one of the posts above. You can report up to 10 item listings in one complaint.

If eBay gets enough requests to investigate, they will hound the guy. Heck, they gave me grief because I put "like new" in a listing headline, which is against the rules (I didn't know).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
I am wondering who is S.Stone? ATW? Olipro?:rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] skhorchid:
He is been removed from ebay, if all will report this will not happen any more and they should be punished for this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dperren:
Why do the developers (to whom I am very grateful) on here not release their software under some form of licence (e.g. GPL, although that does not forbid anyone selling your software) which provides some form of legal recourse with regards to the tossers as mentioned here?

I reported the item to the ebay abuse team, though no idea if they'll do anything about this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tubaking182:
just thinking

so long as any time you develop something you put that it is copy written and have an about page or link in it that states that you made it, you should be able to do something about it, that and you can probably find a way to find him and send a german assassin his way to get rid of the french. but i never really liked the french to begin with
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mr_magoo:
Hows This

I posted my own little ebay add here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190214622830

Tell me what you think. I really like all the work you guys do I lurk here all the time. I don't post much but I'm add my little contribution, lets hope they dont ruin my ebay account :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mfrazzz:
Nice, but just like the n00bs we have here in the forums, I'll lay odds you'll have people bidding on your auction in the last few days of it. People just don't read. I hope some do read it and understand it and actually find out they can do this for free themselves.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ionutzu:
Look man, instead of trying to undercut the french dude, you can do something to promote the fact that the service you are offering is FREE and thus claim the obvious that the frenchy overstepped all boundries of good faith. I mean, your unlocker was never meant to bring profit was it? You did it out of pure passion for the thing you enjoy doing - programming and messing with ppcs. In the process you helped us by not paying the TOTALLY UNREASONABLE fees that one would pay for unlocking such a phone - so the idea is, yes, the frenchy is selling your stuff without permission and I know how fkin frustrating that is because I'm a programmer too, but you gotta know how to promote yourself because in the end it's all a publicity stunt, make yourself a website and claim free kaiser unlocking tools made by you, within days with our help you'll be indexed by google and anyone even looking for unlocking their kaiser is going to get there right away.

We can do this ;)

(oh and btw I'm a web designer too haha)

~John
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mr_magoo:
Well 34 hits so far no bids, that is a good sign :)

I think there will be a lot of NOObs here over the next nine days of the auction.. But hay maybe this will teach them to fish!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Vol22002:
I know that this guy has to be a member here

This was a good idea I wish I had known about this site 10 months ago this guy got me for $100 for the 6.0 Dutty's rom with the cube and unlocker and some other software Here is some of his ebay auctions right now (130213339404) and(140223633544) I was mad as H3ll when I found out it was free software!!!:mad:

http://cgi.ebay.com/PPC6800-XV6800-...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/8125-8525-MDA-W...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aberz:
Heres an idea:

There is a review section in ebay .

make one

title: TILT , Kaiser ... unlocking scam , you can do it for free , easily.

You can go there, write an in depth instruction for your unlocking . With link, pictures and such. Make sure it can convince the "noobie" buyers that they can do it themselves easily.

Then we , anyone here who have ebay account, can jump into that review and rate it useful. we will pump it up to the top in no time. It will catch people attention when they browsing for unlock solutions. Well, too bad if they dont read. But anyway, I think this will cut a big piece out of their income.

What we should do

create a detail instruction video for unlocking the kaiser and put it on youtube and such. should include links to the needed files

Hopefully , we can use the video to post auctions on ebay for 99 cents. It will prove that unlocking is not something that a pro can do.

What else I think that we need if we want to carry out the ebay operation.

We need auction lister ( the more the merry ), at first , just 1 lister is fine. That guy will post up auctions for like 50 cents.

Then we need donators. Some one with extra cash, 50cents, please jump on and buy that auction and give the lister a positive feed back. of course, you bid, please pay. 50 cents is there to cover the listing fee, final value fee and paypal fee. We need around 20 feed back to create a good reputation.

Listers now have good reputation , and some how manage to list and sell. 99 cents is fine. With the aid of ebay , listing this stuff is steam roll.

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my opinion about the service using these software.

The softwares are created for free. Its fine if you use that to help you friends and their grandmoms unlocking the phone. But if you make some money out of it then you are exploiting the developers IP and good will. Should contact the developers first and ask for permission. I think the will let you through with some donation here and there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aberz:
very nice post.

be patient. 34 hits is nothing. out or 34, 17 are from this forum checking your auction lol. , no offense but should be "their" instead of "there" . And why 10 days for 40 cents more ? 25 cents for bold is more effective to catch attention if thats what you seek. And end it on Sunday 7 pm pst to max out the hits.

My concern is that the noob will **** in their pants when they read the post. It doesnt look very easy for new users to try it themselves.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] themuffinman26:
haha that is funny. Just change there to their in the description :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] livefastdiefun87:
Hell even if majority of views are from the forums at least the other people have looked at it. Even if one person uses this auction then at least someone has not paid that prick
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mr_magoo:
Ooops I will do that now thanks guys, I was a little buzzed when I posted the add..

Yea, I was kinda thinking that too.. Maybe someone with better teaching skill then me can revamp the steps so it is a little easier.. or hopefully they will READ..

Maybe I should add a link to this thread too..

Yea I'm gonna do that.. oh and 90 hits so far
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aberz:
reading is painful for someone, I am planning on making a video tut but my camera is crappy T_T
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mr_magoo:
Ebay shut down my add for using the other guys text bastards I will start it again
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Martinjv71:
Of course ebay will remove your ads when you are trying to trap people. Seriously- Hopefully this person learned their lesson. Maybe all developers will learn a lesson by this- liscense all your software so it cannot be copied and then you have real proof that the programs are yours. If you do not want to go throught the trouble then only send it to users through a P.M. and then write down the names of those that have it and maybe that will help track down the criminal. If you cannot stop piracy of Mac and Microsoft program then you definately can't stop freeware. Trust me, I am on your side. just report that ad to Ebay and let them handle it. If you try to "trap" potential buyers then you are also being a fraud and can get in trouble for posting products that are not really for sale.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tin_man:
This is getting very tedious now.

Lets get a few things straight. Olipro cannot copyright the unlocker. For these reasons:

1, His own words "finally managed to get the patched AMSS to boot... a nice big "up your arse" to Qualcomm."

So that means he has hacked AMSS which is Qualcomm's intellectual property, you cannot copyright something you have hacked.

2, He has patched a special radio rom to enable the unlock. The radio is a hacked version of a HTC radio which is their intellectual property.

3, Also the legality of HardSpl is also in doubt as it is a modified version of a HTC spl, again their intellectual property.

So lets stop all the rubbish here about Copyright. There is no copyright on this nor could there ever be. He can not copyright modified versions of someone else's software.

The tinman.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Martinjv71:
UM FYI- a license is not the same as a copyright. Either way this thread is old.

I agree with you- it is too tedious- and yes you are right, he cannot license modified software.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] floyd fan:
Do you have the email address of the guys selling your software by chance?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mr_magoo:
New Ebay Auction

Okay I have made a new ebay add check it out here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190215061631

Tell me if it looks okay and catches your eye :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mr_magoo:
It is not my software it is Oli's from the first post, I'm just pissed they are selling it :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
Someone selling her? Just messing but I thought you might want to fix it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mr_magoo:
Yea I noticed that after it was posted it should be fixed now :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ProudPop83:
I just looked at a couple of those ebay ads.... WTF?!?! Who in their right mind would send a phone to someone to do all that he is proposing? Seriously if you just google Tilt programs, the results come up usually as free and lead the searcher here.....:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mr_magoo:
Yea well this is my last ebay ad I will post, hopefully it will save someone a few bucks.. I know it is futile but hey they pissed me off and it's kinda fun ****ing with them :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ProudPop83:
Dude **** with em all you can.... what they're doing is not cool. Capitalizing off of others hard work...shame on them....;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sambartle:
The simple fact is that it's impossible for a small time developer to properly protect their work, no matter how many times OliPro reports it they will just open a new account and start selling it again.

The ONLY solution is to have a huge banner on startup of any future releases that points people to a static (stickied) thread on here that basically says..

"The software you are running has sent you here because you indicated that you had paid for this software.

If this is the case then you have been ripped off and should report or return the software and seek your money back."

As for the unlocker I've just tried it from the download I made ages ago when Oli released it and I have to say it's pretty damn slick yet again.. I'd be happy to donate to Oli for it as I know its his work.. Thats about all everyone here can do now.. It wont stop the f**** that are selling his work but might at least buy him a few beers to help a bit!!

(Donation on the way right now to do my bit.. Cheers Oli.. your work is appreciated by the real XDA fans..)