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[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kountry83:
[MENTION=5904514]troy5890[/MENTION]

Hey bud where on Reddit did you see he said that?

I'm curious
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] icenight89:
Closest thing in could find:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Axon7/comments/8d04lu/some_good_news_for_the_axon_7_a2017u/
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kountry83:
[MENTION=3338509]icenight89[/MENTION]

Thanks bud!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Infy_AsiX:
Hifi DAC, quality (Samsung) 1440p OLED, Dolby certified speakers, Daydream VR support. Only close competitor in two years is the LG V30 but that lacks the front stereo speakers and has display issues. Maybe the GS9 if you drop the hifi DAC instead. OnePlus still doesn't do even one of those features, 1080p pentile OLED is a large remaining flaw IMO.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Soyunamortz:
So you saying it's a no go ?

Wtf we gonna do of they really screw ZTE and there is no more azon 9 :rolleyes:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rzarectha:
this is very worrying. I am wondering what does this mean?

I can't understand how erasing support for their existing phones makes sense in light of the sanctions. Even for the G that is the European version.

Also, if the closed beta build would be "leaked", it would only bring oreo to the U, right? G will be stuck on N unless someone can modify the kernel
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mickey36736:
Actually, on the Germany website. They use html style to hide the download button.

If you press Ctrl+Shift+I, expand the code until you find

<li class="download-item">

and delete

style="display:none!important;"

The download button will appear and you can download firmware as normal.

Pretty interesting.

Direct download link. For A2017G

Android 7.1 Nougat B10

http://ztemobile.de/softwareuploads/Axon7_Nougat_B10/Nougat_B10.zip

Android 7.1 Nougat B08

http://ztemobile.de/download/Axon7_Nougat-7_1.zip

Android 6.0 B10

http://ztemobile.de/download/Axon7_B10.zip

Edit: All links are down. Damn it.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] miniwire:
Finally! Someone who puts this whole flagship market in two sentences.

I cant think of any Phone that only has advantages over the Axon. Everywhere are downsides, as he said, the V30 is the closest competitor, that will be a viable option. (Atleast for me).
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] P650SE:
I'm looking to dump this phone as soon as possible and switch to something else. :(

The LG V30 is too expensive for me so instead I'm looking at the Huawei Honor View 10 and Xiaomi Mi Note 3. I have found the AMOLED display on the Axon 7 to cause a lot of eyestrain in comparison to previous devices, so switching to IPS will actually be a good thing in my opinion. Both of these devices feature excellent camera setups and also come with IR blasters, as well as the option for 128GB of internal storage. Loosing the stereo speakers is not the end of the world because unless you're holding the device in landscape orientation, they don't make all that much difference.

The Honor V10 also has the advantage of being available from within the UK, so if there's a problem it's easy to get a repair under warranty. (Unlike the Axon 7 which would have to be returned to China!)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Infy_AsiX:
I decided to make the switch from stock N to AOSP RR 8.1 a few days ago, following the recent news about researchers finding that stock like ZTE omits some security patches.

Only really losing on Dolby for its speakers (mod install's not the same). I couldn't be much happier about making the switch, entirely worth it. More secure and proper ROM with likely community support into the future. You can read my raving in the respective AEX and RR threads.

With this recent ban news, my hand would be forced and I'd definitely have to if I hadn't already decided to a few days ago.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] P650SE:
I'm running Nougat RR on my Chinese A2017 at the moment. Unfortunately as good as the Oreo ROMs are, they don't serve much purpose for me because none of them seem to support encryption. I have mentioned it NFound a couple of times but he is not interested in adding support for encryption. :(

The only option is to run AEX 24/02 which for me is unstable, or the old Project New World builds that lack features and have empty customisation menus. I was looking forward to the official update to Oreo since it would be based on a stock Android-style interface and include support for encryption, but now that seems not to be happening unless someone leaks it.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] JLLE:
I will stay with the Axon as long as it works. I don't see for instant a smartphone who can bring me the same satisfaction and specifications for the price.

Envoyé de mon ZTE A2017G en utilisant Tapatalk
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Infy_AsiX:
Fair enough. Each person's needs and feature requirements changes the suitability. Personally I don't have the need for encryption and prefer not having it for the performance trade offs. Stock would have it's own obvious flaws so there's always compromises.

You're right, there isn't an overwhelming developer community. If stock goes, it's all there's left.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] troy5890:
I just realized something, would this affect RMA returns from current customers? I planned on sending mine in for them to replace the battery under warranty
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Raffelberger:
Exactly this. Got my phone 4 months ago and the screen has problems, I can push it back to work and make proper contact again. Hope they will do proper RMA.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hamburgle4:
Spoken like a true wumao lol
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Menergy:
How is current situation reflecting any security updates? Is it all over with any updates of any type?

Also, will we be left with Google Play market or other Google services not functioning even on already released official 6, 7, 7.1 android versions? Like getting a message opening the market saying, "your Android device (manufacturer) has not been authorized/passed Google verification" or "your device has not met Google use policies" or similar.

I was also wondering if Oreo beta version is eventually leaked, will there be even a hypothetical chance for its official use after some tweaks from the interested soft. development society. I have an A2017G.

For me Axon 7 still works great, battery lasts for a good 7-10 hours with moderate use on 7.1 B09, screen is rectangular which I love unlike any of the notched and cut on the edges current flagman devices from other manufacturers, DACs work great and it has overall been a wonderful experience so far. Something else to note, I was utterly surprised recording on a DJ set recently in 1080p [MENTION=7825661]60fps[/MENTION], how good both the video and audio quality was. I can't believe the overwhelming in the hall bass was pleasantly cut by the mics to allow for all other frequencies, resulting in an almost professional recording. Picture in this dim and varying lights environment was also nothing I would have expected from a device like this and watching some recent YouTube video recorded entirely with the Google Pixel 2, what I have got out of the Axon 7 was at least x2 better in worse conditions to record and no post-processing.

I will also probably keep my Axon until it dies but I hate to think it will lose access to Google Play and any future security updates. Such a great device...
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] phan_tom:
Axon 7 is great phone,

as for license,

i think that we may not lose our Google services for this phone

due to this phone was already certified before,

but for upcoming ZTE devices it highly possible,
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kitcostantino:
I think everyone, including ZTE, could be slicing this wrong. US parts /= to Samsung. maybe qualcomm is out, but sammy (screens, exynos chips, etc) is not *technically* an American company. Huawaii, in a show of support could easily supply chips, or even smarter, buy ZTE outright, and all the rest? (software updates, google play, etc) can be done without any license (aka flash gapps zip) any checks that aim to prevent such can be gotten around, so its time to make the android phone for custom roms (and no, One Plus doesnt count in my book bc they still arent flagship level imho. lol) sammy can still sell screens (Korean company, after all) chips, ram, flash memory, etc. in essence, zte will have to pivot. and that will most definately hurt qualcomm more than them (and allow broadcom to try to buy them out again)

ZTE would have to embrace custom roms and developers, and make 3-4 phones instead of 2 dozen. (all the mid and bottom tier are garbage anyway). if the axon 7 was $400, why not? maybe im just reticent to accept the scenario, but i also feel like there is some hope yet for ZTE if they play their cards right. then again, i could be totally wrong about all of it. i will use my axon 7 until it dies as it is my favorite phone i have owned 2010-present.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] icenight89:
Uhhhh.... As much as I love Axon 7, I'm not a blind fanboy. One Plus 6 and S9+. In its generation no phone could compete spec wise, I yield to your point on that. But the software and dev support was lacking, even though great efforts were made by a select group of keys individuals.

But the mobile market has moved on, current offerings trump axon 7 spec wise, and have much better support. Project Treble will ensure this.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jawz101:
$400

Yes, this is the future and newer phones have newer specs but, comparing this phone to those phones, this phone is like 90% of an S9+. The Axon 7 still is a steal on which we lucked out.

I disagree about the dev support. I really need one ROM to feel satiated- LineageOS- and the maintainer for the Axon 7 had unprecedented communication with ZTE themselves. The fact no one else jumped up to port ROMs over doesn't mean much to me except I don't have to scroll past a bunch of cheesy ROMs on the forum.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Infy_AsiX:
I only mentioned about nothing matching in hardware. I've been let down on software with every Android vendor in the past. Ranging across Sony, LG to Samsung. After around two years I have to move to AOSP regardless, in some cases for security or others the improved custom performance or features.

On software, I think ZTE's support of the Axon 7 leading up to Oreo and this crisis was pretty decent. OnePlus software is full of issues, it's blessing is it's third party developer community. Samsung equipped Exynos are arguably less competitive the last few generations, continuing with this generation too. Where they include Snapdragon, it's bootloader locked I think. You didn't mention LG, but their support and software updates are terrible.

Moved on yet none have succeeded the Axon 7 on it's multimedia suite. Better spec mainly in just an upgraded SoC.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Choose an username...:
Oh come on. This phone's only weak point was the software. If they get barred out of Android or if they don't use Exynos chips, the budget flagship segment (we could say it's the $550 segment now) will simply disappear. The Axon 9 would have been very good competition to flagships and midrange phones alike...
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] RobboW:
The camera isn't flagship either, although it's better than I expected from peoples comment in this forum, especially considering the price point.

I haven't seen a phone I would replace my Axon 7 with yet. I find it's performance is plenty fast enough and it has everything I need.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Oki:
With all the money invested in the design of the Axon 9 and so close to the production phase I do not see this a dead end. Most probably ZTE will license the use of their design to another manufacturer so they could have some return from the investment.

In a clever industrial agreement, they could even assemble the phone, leaving the final step and boxing to the cover company. That way all the liabilities, certifications and rights goes to the cover company while ZTE would still be assembling most of the product and receiving royalties from the distribution of the phone by the cover company.

I do not see a big problem on what has happened, and ZTE seems to be fine with it. For sure the ZTE Axon 9 won't have that brand and model. but as I have already explained, I see the product out using US developed technology but with a different brand and model.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Choose an username...:
Lol "Nubia Axon 9"
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] aclegg2011:
I'm waiting to see what zte says about being able to update their devices. If zte isn't able to I might as well release the edls have have from them. I think the last one I have has the Feb security patches. My axon7 stopped working cause of my power button broke.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jawz101:
The U.S. govt is just trying to squeeze competitors out of our allied partnerships. America supports gadgets from S. Korea and Japan. We just want China to build the stuff for cheap.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] RobboW:
I'm a n00b with modding and repairing the Axon 7, I've kept mine 100% stock and only done official SD updates to the latest Nougat. Does the Oreo EDL package flash everything, including recovery etc? So repartion if that is altered?

Is there a regular SD update to Oreo?
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
Things get worst as UK also consider taking action againt ZTE

https://www.neowin.net/news/zte-now...rity-risk-to-uk-may-also-lose-android-license

The all situation have impact to Qualcomm as ZTE is 4th largest smartphone seller at US market.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-zte-another-blow-for-qualcomm-idUSKBN1HO0XT

https://www.androidcentral.com/zte-banned-using-us-based-hardware-or-software-its-products

Realy bad news as i was hoping for Axon 7 succesor this year.:(:mad:

Also Huawei target Kirin SOC as Huawei exclusive and not thinking selling to other OEM.

https://liliputing.com/2018/04/kirin-chips-likely-to-remain-a-huawei-exclusive.html

So only Samsung remain the only real altarnative but again liitle change again.

With other words ZTE is done from smartphone market.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Menergy:
With so many flagships around including the latest from Sony, HTC and the P20 Plus, I was doubtful anyway I'd be going for Axon 9, especially from the leaked 9 data which is nothing but completely behind of what Axon 7 brought to life in a single device. ZTE might be in big trouble about its smartphone/NE business but what I believe is most important for all of us now is the software future of Axon 7 itself (G and U). Its only and really competitive flagship so far.

Even if we go for some of the currently available or upcoming flagships, we still would care if the Axon 7 would only be a senseless brick in the hand with whatever software it came with/is now, or we would still get at least security updates. My unit is perfect in every relation - screen, CPU, battery, camera, DACs, Dolby Atmos, speakers, operating speed etc. and I am not going to throw it out, even if I buy something else.

Sorry but not all of us are from United States, have the A2017U or have any relation to the US government. ZTE, despite of their problems, should still think about their global Axon 7 users, especially as Oreo was so close to get out. So must be the international community. Because tomorrow it may be Huawei, or Xiaomi, or someone else. Until we have Apple and Samsung only. Or isn't it time for the Chinese government/outsourcing industry to stop producing and assembling iphones/other ready-to-use devices of American companies and let them make them in the US. Wouldn't it be funny and wouldn't Apple go bust within less than a year? World is big and is not US market only.

And frankly I don't want to know at all but still hope ZTE won't leave us all in the dark.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] aclegg2011:
Well, the two biggest problems is they cant use Qualcomm chips and modems and probably won't be able to use android globally (or any us based tech or software). So this affects all current and past zte devices. They'd have to find a new chipset and modem to use and possibly a different os. Being on xda you're actually not screwed due to custom ROMs. Im not really sold on the whole zte/huwaei security issue, but ZTE screw themselves by selling American-made tech to n. Korea and Iran in known violation of trade sanctions. Zte admitted to the wrong doing, paid a fine, but failed to discpline senior staff.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Choose an username...:
Almost off-topic, but the leaked renders were from the M9
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] 0Kajuna0:
Are you talking about Oreo betas? That wouldnbe awesome
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Menergy:
I read somewhere they already paid 1.2 billion in fines so not firing/punishing senior executives is not on its own justifying what they are getting now. I agree they shouldn't have involved in trade with Iran and N. Korea, but they still paid quite a hefty fine. And they for sure would have agreed to pay even bigger fines now just to keep their business running, if they were given that option.

US government has been after ZTE and Huawei for quite a long time but since Huawei has its own IT portfolio and would be hardly affected, they went for the weaker of both (and I believe this is not just against ZTE, it is part of the trade war with China). I guess more companies need to start making their own chips and OS's since now US-based corporations own us all and it may not be the last case to see.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lafester:
You say this like it's a bad thing. China has been abusing ip and trade for far too long and needs a reality check. Zte could have easily complied with the (over lenient) terms but failed to do so. If they want out of this now it's going to take far more then just a fine.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kitcostantino:
unless the button itself physically broke, these are really easy to change.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/152860365450
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ScaryBugThing:
FYI, it appears there is confirmation that an informal resolution process is underway and they are allowing ZTE to submit "additional evidence."

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HS0JB
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jawz101:
In other news, Qualcomm lays off 1,500 employees. Cause - effect

http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/19/technology/qualcomm-layoffs/index.html
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Oki:
All this about ZTE trade issue has only been a warning. Banning ZTE of using US chips and software is just a warning to the Chinese Authorities. It will sure backfire us all here in the US. If it goes bad, the Qualcomm would be laying off more employees, same for other suppliers and third tier companies here in the US. If there is final settlement between US trade office and ZTE, then the China will have some fresh air until their own technology could be at the same level of Qualcomm, Intel, AMD, Apple, or TI. Kirin processors are only 1 year behind in terms of performance, so give them a couple more years and then no one will want to use expensive processors from a troublesome country.

I believe the big losers here will be the US tech manufacturers. ZTE already has the support of the Chinese government so they could face some difficulties but they will survive. On the other hand, US tech manufacturers don't have the same support from the US government and they all are suffering the barriers created by all the current trade measures against exports.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jawz101:
I've thought about this a bit in regards to the losses for the U.S. as I've been shopping for Bluetooth earbuds a lot lately. Chinese ear buds will say when they're using a Qualcomm CSR chipset and when it has aptX and cVc technologies. I never see that in the features of U.S./Japanese/etc. ear buds. Even this phone came with the Qualcomm iZat location function.

To me it says most products we buy don't use Qualcomm chips in anything but phones and never pay for additional feature licensing. Yet here we have Chinese companies putting more investment into a U.S. company. All this does is change where the money goes and not in our favor. All I've purchased is Chinese earbuds because they're reasonably priced versus $200 ear buds from U.S.-endorsed ear buds. And the Chinese ones actually use Qualcomm hardware.

I guess I don't think it's our hardware manufactures that lose much. I mean, they build everything in China anyways. I think they'll lose on the money from the sales of the bells and whistles.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lafester:
Says Qualcomm planned this in January. How is that related to zte?
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jawz101:
Qualcomm wasn't in the dark on the issues that may affect their business. ZTE & Qualcomm's businesses drive one another. I'm sure they drew up plans in case. If ZTE is one of the largest phone manufactures in the world and half of the largest manufacturers use their own chips, ZTE could've been one of Qualcomm's top 3 customers. They're very related.

I could imagine Qualcomm launching Operation Lost ZTE as soon as needed.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] RobboW:
Does Trump have a hand in it somewhere? Seems to be trying to run the US as a company but it's way more complex. Trump may have been successful in his own business but his IQ is not amazing and his redneck ego is gigantic. All this anti Chinese stuff lately from him seems mostly business related. Wouldn't surprise me if there's a link.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rzarectha:
I was on LOS 14.1 until today. I have switched back to stock through EDL today, upgraded to B10 with SD method.

Surprisingly, my phone is uncertified now. I have stock rom, recovery, everything. The only thing that is not stock is that my bootloader is unlocked. If I recall correctly though, just unlocking the bootloader would not cause your phone to be uncertified.

Did Google cancel certification for the Axon 7 even for N roms in light of the trade ban, or am I missing the reason why this is happening?

Edit: yep, pretty much confirmed; I have reset the phone twice, formatted all internal storage and SD card to make sure absolutely no hint of root is left. I have then wiped the play store data and cache and it reverts back to un-certified every time.

I have downloaded Xda Labs and installed Magisk manager for its safety check scanner.

ctsProfile: false

basicIntegrity: true

Does this indicate that there is something wrong with my phone or is just google that detected I have a ZTE phone?

edit2: 1 hour ago, when I was on MM B10, when I copied the N B10 and went to system update, the phone told me there's an OTA available (that one usually fails).

I have tried to check for OTA update now on N B10 and it tells me that no network is available. This could indicate that the ZTE OTA servers have been recently brought offline. This could mean two things: 1. they will remain offline for good or 2. maybe they prepare the O update.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] laikexpert:
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ZTE OTA servers are offline:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Axon7/comments/8ebxdh/zte_ota_servers_are_offline/
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kountry83:
[MENTION=4517849]laikexpert[/MENTION]

Yup same here