yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bigsteve:
A few UK site a taking Pre-orders for around £500.00
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mmick:
Though WM is more powerfull than Symbian, I currently own a

- HTC TYTN (WM 6.0 Schaps + 400MHz Samsung + almost nothing running and default phone/OS apps)

- Nokia N82 (S60 v3 + 333MHz)

My N82 is FAR faster than my TYTN! Despite N82´s slower CPU and not being a PDA, it´s fast on everything but emulators!

WM is just slow! Horribly SLOW! Even on TELEPHONE tasks (like showing people calls, SMS, etc) TYTN takes lots of time doing everything even after a fresh OS installation.

WM independently of the CPU/RAM/Programs loaded *is* slow! My N82 pure and simple is smooth on everything TYTN should be!

- N82 is faster on web browsing (a lot faster!)

- N82 is faster on flash youtube videos (fluid vs. very choppy )

- N82 is faster on wifi transfers (both at 1m of the router)

- N82 is faster on menus (a lot faster!)

- N82 is A LOT faster on phone commands (showing caller, SMS, etc)

- N82 is faster opening high resolution pictures

- N82 is faster opening office documents, including PDF/Powerpoint

- N82 records VGA 30fps video + TV-OUT + 5MP pictures

- N82 refreshes the main screen very quickly. WM devices seem to take 2-3x more time to update the screen

- N82 has a standby screen (that screen that "screensaves" with a clock + date). WM devices turn off the screen to save battery

- WM 6 has a *VERY* ugly GUI. WM icons/fonts are so ridiculous ugly and old that a 2007-2008 PDA reminds me Windows 3.11 GUI!!!

the question is: WTF is Micro$oft doing?!?! How can a "smartphone" be fast *on everything* a PDA does and on 2008 WM still remembers Windows 3.11???

If a "SE X1"-like PDA comes + S60 v3 + touchscreen I´ll never comeback to WM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chunkymonkey:
I'm the first to have a pop at MS when it's warranted - and it oh so often has been since I went from my Amiga to a PC.

However, Windows Mobile, whilst an annoying bugger in a number of ways (hardware aside - nowt to do with them as Lordsmiff points out) is remarkably useful in certain that ways that no other OS is that I've tried is, most particularly in how 'open' it is.

Windows Mobile seems always to have been designed initially by marketing people and then handed over to (no doubt hard-working, underpaid and talented) programmers to realise. But it's drawbacks are also it's benefits, in that it's so 'loosely' designed that even I can get my head around increasingly-detailed and complex parts of how it works and how I might, and indeed do, modify it at low-enough levels to surprise even me.

Other mobile device OSes are, in my experience, much harder to monkey with (no pun intended) beyond installing software. They're not designed to be modified by me of course so that's no criticism of other OSes. Windows Mobile also isn't designed to be modified by me, and yet I, an admittedly dozy tit, can do a lot with it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/10/no-wonder-sony-ericssons-xperia-x1-is-so-good-htc-makes-it/
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Lordsmiff:
I'm not quite sure what the little equation means at the end of your rant but you've answered your own question...

That's exactly the point - your N82 is nowhere near as capable as a TyTN or most other PDAs. Aside from the fact that your conclusions are somewhat skewed, the operating system on it has a specific function with some other bits bolted on whereas the WM devices are from the ground up designed to have lots of software installed and work more like a mobile computer.

It would be better to compare the N82 to an ipaq 514 or some other WM smartphone device rather than a tytn where the limitations of both are similar.

The N82 is a phone with some PDA functions bolted on whereas the tytn and it's ilk are PDAs with some phone functions bolted on.

I liek and loathe both Symbian and Wm in equal measure so you take your pick as to what you prefer but spare us the rant (especially on a forum of fans of this particular format).

it's like shooting fish...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] KillaSirrom:
Ya'll can look at it any which way ya'll like. the bottom line is windows mobile performs really shabby. And balmmer like an ass doesn't really seem that he intends to take the google's android seriously. They didn't take the Iphone seriously..

"what a smartphone without a keyboard.. that cant be a business device, and for 600 dollars" eyah thats what balmer was sayin.. however look at the sales. the iphone is doing ridiculously well in sales right now. oh and with the sdk they jsut released things are gonna get way more interesting.

I'm not an apple or google fan boy I am a htc tytn/hermes owner. I just really wish they'ld do thinks properly and cut the sloppy / bloated coding.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] sacwoo:
Not retail but with a contract. I cannot spend over $400 on a phone and be tied down with a 2 year contract.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tonyb15re:
If you're getting that stressed about it why not join in on the Linux Coding discussion... Theres a thread somewhere on the Forum..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Vision77:
Honestly I think WM7 will probably be the mobile OS that makes or breaks Microsoft...but even then Windows Mobile will be far from dead for the simple fact that its so hackable. Android has a lot of potential but I will save my official judgment for when a Android device is actually released. You also have to give your props to apple for making everyone step their game up.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] zim2dive:
Why did I have to run the oxvga hack then? (on my Dell x50v VGA WM5 device)?

WM5 would light up all the pixels yes, but made NO use of the extra pixels (without the hack).. instead it just took one pixel of QVGA and made it a block of 4 pixels on VGA. ie. there was 0 resolution improvement without using hack software. That is not "support", at least not in my book.

We'd see many more VGA devices if it were truly supported.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mmick:
You have a very biased vision and some of your comments show how little you know about other technologies/OS. N82 *is* more capable then a TyTN in every single way, just lacks touchscreen and built-in qwerty keyboard (as several PDAs).

I could discuss all day long about N82 vs. TyTN but you probably know nothing about N82 capabilities. So I´ll simplify to you about that present S60 and phones like N82 (333MHz + 128Mb RAM + Wifi) can do:

- read/edit/create Office 2007 documents or PDF

- full web browsing with flash (and in a few weeks with flash3 for youtube)

- FTP, network servey, network folders, multimedia server

- photography/video editing

- full POP3/... mail download/read

- 2D/3D games far more advanced than WM without 3D chip (95% of all PDAs)

- advanced PIM

- full PC sync and far easier sync!

- 16 Million color LCD + PAL/NTSC TV-OUT support

- you can add whatever software you want until your microSD card is full (GPS, Office, PIM, games, web browsing, etc etc)

and does all this and more far smoother/faster than my TyTN.

Now...unless a touchscreen determines if a device is a micro-PC or not, I don´t understand your (biased) point!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] !Kernel Panic!:
Video Demo of Android.

:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] KillaSirrom:
Co-signed. apple definitely did some wizardry to the industry. and i thank them for that. apple is truely a innovator take alook at a few of the new handsets touching the market form reputable hardware vendors and handset providers as well. What do they look like?

samsungs i900 - iphone clone

htc p3479 - very iphonesque

samsung f480 - iphoneesque
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tonyb15re:
Yeh they screwed up iTunes so that a huge amount of IPOD users thought their devices were knackered and paid through their noses for replacements/repairs that were not necessary.. good stuff NOT
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vn1977:
Why is this in the Hermes Mobile 6 part of the forum? Could you please restart or move this topic to the general XDA where it belongs?

I'm sick of getting notifications about crap like this when I want to know when there are updates to ROMs.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] leo-chan:
absolutely agree with you...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kaalgoosy:
wm needs to die for our next gen os's to progress

when i say wm is dead, i mean the next gen os's like android will make our current wm versions look like black and white television. the fact that google has tossed in their hat with the iphone sdk developers shows they're ready for something we're all ready for; a serious wm upgrade!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kaalgoosy:
i understand how content most of us are with our wm devices, we have the most flexible devices around; i'm just thinking about the future. come on now; who wouldn't like android running on our hermes?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] froos:
As I understand it, HTC is the one building this device in license for Sony-Ericsson. If that is the case, they will have a pretty good clue what makes it tick :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Lordsmiff:
You are absolutely right - I know nothing about phones\technology\operating systems and I bow to your obviously superior knowledge in this area. Your well thought our argument (I particularly liked your 'advanced PIM' point) has convinced me to sell anything I own that has a plug.

Smiffy.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kaalgoosy:
now we're talking...

all you guys know these new os's that are already up and running on beta phones won't be released until us the consumers are fed up with feeding off of table scraps of these giant corps. schillings, let's bring on the next gen already!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Roobuls:
The thing that I think is wrong with WM is that microsoft make it look very much like their desktop operatiing systems (eg. Win XP).

Same file explorer, same Microsoft Outlook features, same Windows directory structure and sub-directories like "Fonts", "Start Menu", "Profiles", "System", etc.

So many similarities it's not funny. It's like and Elephant trying to act like a Mouse!

I think it's all B#ll Sh#t. Make it a full on mobile (hand-held) operating system. Not a copy of Windows XP.

Then people might start to be happy with it.

Let's face it, if you want a mouse in the palm of your hand you don't want an elephant.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kaalgoosy:
beautifully worded Roo...

with all its faults, the Iphone is at least trying to deliver a laptop experience. I got a feeling wm is gonna get a huge push in the ass for the future much quicker than they wanted to and are forced to stop milking this antiquated os!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] surur:
Actually thats why I like it. Want to add a font to WM? Just copy a TTF to your font directory. Try doing the same in PalmOS.

There are other countless examples. OSX Mobile just hides its OSX base a lot more than WM, and adds sucky restrictions like no multi-tasking for 3rd party apps.

Surur
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Roobuls:
So tell me then, why does it have a "Profiles" sub-directory. Can you actually do anything with it?

It's a bit like a dad giving a toy truck to his son and trying to tell him it's just like the real thing !!!

Bit of a joke don't you think...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Lordsmiff:
The thing about WM trying to look like big windows is exactly the reason it is the way it is.

First off, look at the skins for Wizbar\WAD etc - the most popular ones are ones that make it look and act like vista or XP.

The other thing is, you have to remember the audience that these devices are really aimed at - corporate clowns who sit behind a desk all day and make pivot tables in excel. The WinMo experience is designed to have continuity from the desktop to the phone \ mobile computer \ mobile office.

I work as a senior consultant for the largest IT company in the world and believe me, most of the people who have phones like this don't even install any third party games, they wouldn't know what a profile is and they certainly don't use file explorers for anything more than looking in their my documents folder for that picture of their kids that their wife sent to them by MMS so they can use it for wallpaper.

The people on here are in the minority as far as the people who use these go. Granted, it's an increasing audience and will only carry on doing so and there again, MS have an advantage with devices like these precisely because they look and work the same as their desktops.

People like the familiar - change is never an easy sell - just look at vista...and xp before it...and windows 95...3.1...dos...

Having said that, I think the coolest interface is the iPhone's and if the hardware were better, I'd dump my hermes in an instant...though I might be harder pressed to get rid of my universal :)

Smiffy.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Macgyvec3:
If HTC doesn't release a driver for my Kaiser, I'm never buying another HTC. That Sony looks nice as much as I hate Sony. But they haven't screwed me over as bad as HTC.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
I think wm is great. started to get a little bored with it till i started cooking roms tho. now my mission is to maake the perfect rom to show off knowing that i made it
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] truffle1234:
I think there is no shortage of people like you in this world.... you are the kind who is never satisfied with the best available and always talk about things which are not out yet...

can I ask you one thing... WHAT DO YOU WANT IN A PHONE?????

I can bet my ass you don’t have a clue at all... So I will not waste my effort on you any more...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kaalgoosy:
you're kidding right?

how many apps does wm phones offer around the net free? And how many apps are out for the iphone right now? (and get ready to pay cash money for apps that we had on our old razrs). apples iphone is just another medium to sell their products. yea, it's a real pretty device; but what can it really do? a cheap version of google maps? check out anything apple, from their browser, to their itunes; they're not really about innovation, they're about sell sell sell. and if your content with current os's, stay there; we'll evolve without you
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kaalgoosy:
Do you remember the "best available" internet connection back in the early 80's? Or the "best available tv's before HD? The model T ford was also the "best available" motor car before the vw was spawned. Bows and arrows were also the "best available" before gunpowder
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] LaRiZoHar:
Is it possible to make it appear before 7 days?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Bofahad:
No ,am withing like you for a week
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] peter osoro:
And make sure you flash twrp immeaditily after oem unlock has been enabled otherwise if you restart the phone you'll get dm_verity error forcing you to factory reset and wait for other 7 days like it happened to me.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] SrikanthMergu:
i used dns magisk module then i removed magisk dns module because there are no improvements

after restart my network not showing

tried flashing stock rom not solved same issu

please some help me

thanks in advance
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] TrueMS:
If you dial *#*#4636#*#*, you can see info about your SIM and modem, look at it.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] xloolx:
please a rom resurrection remix based Android oreo for Galaxy s8 and if possible integrate afterburner kernel to change and scall freq and CPU governors

and thx​
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] -Ric-:
Anything else? Maybe we could get you a drink and some snacks too?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] kenton4j:
Really?!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] adj998:
Lol wow
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] SirSoviet:
Don't even report this guys, this is too good
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] coal686:
I know the thread is closed, but I wanted to just say that we have a lot of places on this site where you can learn how to do it for yourself. We would love for you to enrich your mind by learning to develop and then sharing what you learn with others. It's what makes XDA the greatest Android site on the internet. :highfive:
[General Questions and Answers] amit16.js:
Hi there, we've got a slight improvement i.e. portrait mode and something called flash to make gif instantly in our LG q6 cellphone. I'll try getting other things after a reset. that's a new firmware with April patch of 900 mb.
[General Questions and Answers] hinguparth23:
Hey, My ZTE Blade G2 V880H is completely switched off and not starting.

I have tried using sp flash tool v3 and v5 but I am getting an error of "BROM ERROR : S_DL_PMT_ERR_NO_SPACE (5069) error".

Unfortunately I am unsuccesful in solving this issue. Please help me. What is the problem going on?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] EldarKZ:
I've installed RR. And I connected my meizu ep52 by BT. Music , sounds work well. But when i try to call to somebody, call process don't work by Meizu Ep52 BT, it changes to dynamic of phone.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Samlach 22:
The May security patch is on Firmware Finder
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Giuskiller:
Yes and next month we will see June security patches that will finally put an end to the Oreo "telenovela" for this device. For the future idiots comments that i'll read...June is the last term for "Q2 2018" so the last hope to see the major update. We will see, personally day after day my hope goes down...but i really wish i could be wrong
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BnK1986:
Maybe the patch will never be deployed alone and will deploy it with Oreo update
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ThePS4Gamer:
I really hope it will happen. Because the same thing has happened to the B399 update (the B398 update has also had the December patches in it, but the B399 update has rolled out instead.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Yeah I really hope so too :)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] supersakis:
Noone seems to be concerned that Honor/Huawei released "May 2018 security patches" in.. April?

I'm trying to find any information about what is being corrected, but there isn't seem to be anything there. Are they trolling? Or is it a fake security patch?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BnK1986:
Loool you're right
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] pix106:
When do you think "next month patch" is written and tested ? :)

OEM most probably have google patches before their official release, for testing purposes. Such as : https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-a1-android-8-1-oreo-beta/

The "fake patches" you're talking about are incomplete security patches, in which a few patches are missing, not fully faked ones.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] omniapp:
Has anyone received yet the b405 OTA in Italy?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ysnX:
i've received it in Germany today.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] alen1901:
Got it in Croatia too.

Pure Honor 8
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wagierek:
What are your phone variants? My FRD-L09 (PL) didn't get it yet.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] grifovunque:
i receive b405 today, italy.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Old friend:
B405, OTA, Tele 2, Croatia.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Krikoo:
got b405 in Hungary this morning
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] SALENTINVM:
Just received in Italy
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jamalginsburg:
How did you manage turning your UI to black?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] flip360:
B405, OTA, Macedonia
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bdurren:
B405, OTA, France
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zeljkoa:
This morning in Serbia...
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] stefc13:
For those who do not get it automatically: in the update page, enter in the menu top right and select download complete package.

It worked for me :)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] titanick:
Dude thanks so much, I've always wondered why I haven't been getting any security updates ever since last year and I just got B405 by doing what you said!
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] omniapp:
Just got it - right now
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] SALENTINVM:
Just downloaded the theme from EMUI themes factory
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kiruke:
Just received the update in Italy.. I'm really surprised that a 2 year old device is still getting security updates (And another major update hopefully).
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] xsacter:
Still haven't received it on FRDL04
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] tdgxda:
Has anyone in UK got it?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nyssa1104:
Some have received 405 in the UK..

2 people in UK I know changed their Language Input to the Netherlands and got the update on Monday gone. And another got it on English Language Input setting on the Virgin UK network midweek..
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] KiLLerQ1982:
B405 Italy, today.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] havugotwata:
Received it today in France.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alvichone:
Spain too.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] supersakis:
I can confirm that the SIM card trick (placing a SIM from a country that has received the update in the 4G/3G slot) works for B405 in the UK, which hasn't received the update officially yet.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wagierek:
Finally got it here in Poland (although I'm not sure about how long it has been hanging up here).

Is it possible to install OTAs with unlocked bootloader and Magisk? TWRP log shows the following:
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] dikuran:
Just restore original recovery, and you will be able to install at least full package
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Wagierek:
Yeah, worked with full package. Too bad I have to flash TWRP and Magisk once again.

Thanks anyway!
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jshealton:
Not available on the FRD-L04 in the states. How can I make sure I have the latest security patches?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] zinko_pt:
Portugal - Available

UK - Not available

Installed and will root soon.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ScardracS:
Italy avaitable
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
I assume nobody in the US has gotten it, like usual. I'm still on 393 here.

edit: Is there anything on the Play Store to check if a vulnerability that should be patched as of a month or two ago is actually patched?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] xsacter:
Yeah same here, still on 393 in Canada. I guess we'll have to wait until it actually gets released. I'm assuming we should be getting it in about 2-3 weeks, which is unfortunate because I was surprised that they were fast at releasing the last 2 updates or so.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] evilpaul13:
Yeah, I was quite pleasantly surprised by that too. :(
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] SSyar:
my office FRD-L09 device still stuck on B394, Karachi - Pakistan
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nerd777:
Battery seems to last longer, a lot. Can anyone confirm that?

Also no drain in airplane mode 7 hours 0%!!! When I had 6-7%...is that a miracle?