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[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] gbdlin:
Yes, they're doing exactly that: releasing updates for part of the world at a time so people won't kill their servers. That's also why not everybody gets update immediately even if in correct region. And that's why they pulled out updates temporarily twice (spike of download attempts can trigger that to protect their services that are not only for providing updates for our model).

So far for now, RETCA, RETIN, RETBR and TKPCA are rolled out.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Txuy:
Retail 8.0.0 went out Yesterday ... Im testing it right now.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] timster01:
Rogers Wireless (RCICA) has also rolled out Oreo to their Moto Z Play.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] djdelarosa25:
retapac still on Nougat
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] giel_vandanu:
I'm curious, what if I sideloading the retin version to retapac? is there will be any problem with that? does anyone here tried it?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
Anyone with reteu that got the update during the latest rollout ?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] djdelarosa25:
The update file is universal. The software channel will never change. I'm on retapac and followed this tutorial. Everything worked. Though, I'm still eager for the official OTA to arrive for my software channel.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] giel_vandanu:
ok I'll try it. Thank You!
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] tag68:
From other phones I know there exist different build numbers, and not all build numbers that are published on one channel are published on others.

Example:

Retapac gets Build 1,2,3,5,6

Reteu gets Build 1,2,3,4,6

If you apply OTA update 5 from Retapac while on Reteu 3, you won't get any OTA until you flash some reteu firmware (or apply update 6 for apac which contains differences to 5)

If you apply OTA update 4 from Reteu while on Retapac 3, you won't get any OTA until you flash some retapac firmware (or apply update 6 for eu which contains differences to 5)

Often confusing detail: The update file names always tell for which build number they are to be applied to. Not which build number gets installed. In the example both OTA Retapac 5 and Reteu 4 show build number 3 in the file name.

Sometimes the softwarechannels get completely different builds, for instance reteu 1,5,8,11 and retapac 1,4,9,12. Then you're on a dead end as soon as you apply 4 or 5 of the different channel.

I don't know why so many people here tell it always will be that the software channels don't matter. I'm sure, it makes life easier for developers and QA to keep the versions in sync. It makes sense. But why does anyone know that no special requirement for some channel will cause a different build number path? Did something change in the update logic which I didn't notice?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] marrano9000:
RETAPAC is out! :D
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] michalw2:
Next week hopefully reteu will be released.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] shaoran23:
Do you get the OTA directly from AT&T or do you update it manually ???
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] JonasVFC:
So, is this really worth it to update? How is the speed compared to the Nougat version? does it lag on unlock?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] djdelarosa25:
A lot of users have been reporting issues with the update. As for me, I have noticed that it is noticeably faster than Nougat. It doesn't lag on unlock.

I would suggest performing a factory reset after updating and not restoring your apps after. I think a lot of the complaints stem from people not performing basic troubleshooting than anything else.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] iorme:
confirmed, got the update this morning
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] giel_vandanu:
so far so good, no issue for me.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Criss_Kza:
Hi guys,

Can anyone share the "new" battery experience with Oreo?! It will be my major reason to NOT update to Oreo due to worst battery scenario that is very possible to get! I'm having excellent battery on Nougat and there is no point to update except security reasons .. "New" Oreo functionalities are not at all important to me .. really don't understand why all major updates are not having "promised" better or at least the same battery experience like previous versions!

Thanks for your input Oreo users!
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] IncendiaryPyro:
Mine seems to be about the same as it was on Nougat.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Txuy:
Mannualy AT&T MX isnt release yet., RETAIL works fine in almost any country, not great, just fine,
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] djdelarosa25:
Battery life has been more or less the same as Nougat, in my experience, at least.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] M1810:
hope they change that ugly font for the lockscreen clock in 8.1, i mean it doesn't even match the font used for the alarms :/
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] JonasVFC:
has anyone from reteu channel got the update?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] rezniqsvk:
No, sadly :{
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] TigerCourage:
Out in Japan today, confirmed on Facebook.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] pkadavid:
Just got the 8.0 update notice in the US. Downloading now.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] ZephyrBlaze:
I have the RETUS version and i have received the update today.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] ZephyrBlaze:
It is not ugly, but i agree they should change it to the default google font.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] dandrumheller:
Here as well, unlocked RETUS on AT&T.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Criss_Kza:
There is/was any timeline announcement for RETEU channel?!

Thanks
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] brun3llo:
Does Oreo comes with a dark theme out of the box or you installed something?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] jeldtoft:
Still no reteu.....
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] timster01:
No. By default, the theme is white.

To use themes, you'll need Substratum and Andromeda if you're not rooted. Rooted only need Substratum.

Alternatively, a developer named AndroidRei (https://plus.google.com/+AndroidRei) made 18 themes that don't require root or Substratum

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mksMsSW7ZsIVvXrgRmxGGtfvSvB-wOF6

How to install: Install at least two themes (like a normal apk); Power off and power on; Settings> Display> advanced> device theme; Done
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] djdelarosa25:
Just curious, why do we have to install at least two?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Zeljko1234:
Just read that g5s got 8.1. It's newer but z series is above g...

Anyway it's just an info, most likely z play is done with updates. But who knows, maybe Moto surprise us :)
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] theforbidden:
Waiting for June update to correct bugs in oreo.....
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
Since Oreo is not yet released for Europe, I think there will be a new build for us with more bug fixes.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Ustetind:
Let's hope so.

Just a though: I wonder how much effort it would actually take the Lenovo/moto devs to share a bit more precise information about update procedures and progression. I mean, could it in any way be a disadvantage for them? It feels like it's taking forever when we're not provided with any information at all...
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
I work in software development and it's not that hard to have a precise release date. Also we deliver the software updates using a slow rollout and if a critical defect is detected by users then we abort the release and deliver a new build with a fix the very next day. If there are only small bugs (minor, trivial), then those will be fixed in the next update scheduled for a precise date.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Zeljko1234:
I'm guessing that with all changes, Moto does not have much resources to spend on the older devices. Could be just couple or even one dev to take care of one or more devices.

Luckily, firmware is almost stock and most of the code is the same for all Moto devices.

However, it's still risky for them to release major update (if we can consider 8.0 -> 8.1 as major). If something goes wrong, unsatisfied customer is bad advertisement.

Anyway, I'm pretty satisfied with the current build. Most of the bugs they fixed during SOAK. Uptime was about month and half and I rebooted for another reason, not because of rom itself.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Zriron:
I sideloaded Oreo and doesn't faced any bugs to be honest. And I'm happy with substratum [emoji5]

Wysłane z mojego XT1635-02 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Zeljko1234:
Yeah, it's better to have what we have then get buggy update. During SOAK it was like that, first two build was rock stable, then third brought new launcher and "tons" of bugs.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] djdelarosa25:
motoota.lolinet.com doesn't seem to work anymore. Can anyone confirm?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] rodrigo9411:
Yep, it has been down since 2 weeks ago or something...
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] KimWex:
Still no update for reteu software channel ?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] noobgg:
No
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Zeljko1234:
Really?! :p

Usually US is getting last...
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
Only the z2 play got Oreo update today on reteu.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] noobgg:
Reteu still nothing?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] tag68:
7.1.1 Patch February 2018 is current, yes.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] noobgg:
The thread is about Oreo, but thanks
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] tag68:
I give an answer to your (!) question if Oreo for reteu is out and what the current version is, then you tell me it would be off topic? Kidding?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] noobgg:
I never ask for the current version, i ask for the new. I now the current. This is what you understand ,not what i say. I don't say you are "off topic", too
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] keulieminogue:
Reteu germany downloading now ;)
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Zeljko1234:
Oreo or P(ancake)? :D
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
Z play?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] xNick95x:
Oraes getting Oreo right now! Please could you tell me if there are any bugs? I'm concerned about battery life and camera performance
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] keulieminogue:
Are you guys kidding? ähhh Oreo, Z Play (thats the thread about?) Yes.

update was successfull :) runs smooth so far.

Have Fun
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
Build number?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] keulieminogue:
Patch level is April 2018 - if this is sufficient
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Zeljko1234:
Both are about the same, maybe slightly improved. Camera has a new GUI, better or worse.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] xNick95x:
Thanks for your reply man! I'm getting negative comments regarding battery life so I don't know if updating is a good choice or not ?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
I also got an update today.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] lhex:
Wtf! Official android 8.1 on Moto Z Play?
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
Sorry, wrong phone. I was using my Pixel 2 at that moment.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Zeljko1234:
Well, I had to update as part of SOAK. I had one app as huge battery drainer (Amazfit), after fixing it (uninstall, clear cache, install), battery is crazy good again. Maybe is good idea to do factory reset after upgrade but I was too lazy to setup everything again :D
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Baronik:
I just got update in Poland (reteu) - 1153 MBs - currently downloading!
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] rezniqsvk:
Slovakia downloading now

Its 1150,3
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] macomaco:
What is the build number? Thanks.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Baronik:
Opn27.76-12-22
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Sebastiann70:
Me too ... finally! :)

Krakow, Poland.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Criss_Kza:
Now downloading also in Romania!!
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] razorsbk:
Perfect. Sa îmi dai și mie un mesaj sa îmi zici cum merge după update.

(I asked him for feedback).
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] G4liant:
The update also hit reteu, i updated my thread with the update.zip
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] brun3llo:
I guess my retgb is another victim of the brexit... No update for me so far
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] astmacca:
Getting OTA in Australia reteu now.
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] djtom1:
new launcher is so ugly :(
[Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion] Baronik:
I don't even know how it looks, I use Launcher 3 (Pixel 2XL AOSP launcher) and don't need anything else.
[Omni Q&A] akwala:
I increased the number of rows in the layout of the tiles in Quick Pulldown, causing the buttons to scroll off the bottom of the screen (screenshot attached). Since the Edit button only appears when the pulldown is expanded, I can no longer access it. I can't find another way to edit the tiles. Is there a way to fix this or am I SOL?
[Omni Q&A] akwala:
Fixed it. Here's how:

In Settings > Omni Gears...

> Style - disable Header image.

> Buttons > Keys - disable navigation bar

This made the buttons at the bottom of the pulldown visible and removed the superseding navigation buttons that overlayed the buttons in the pull down.

I was then able to change the number of rows in the pulldown.

This is a UI flaw. Since there's only one way to get to the Edit button for the pulldown tiles, it should not be possible to accidentally inaccessible. An obvious fix would be to make it appear even if the pulldown is not expanded. Alternatively, the pulldown should never expand beyond the top of the navigation bar.
[HTC U Ultra Questions & Answers] Amphibius2:
I got the notification today that there's Oreo available for my U Ultra (I'm in Germany, Hessen) and just wanted to ask if someone's already done the update and if they could share their opinions on it
[HTC U Ultra Questions & Answers] Cr1TiKa7:
I've done the update yesterday and i guess twrp ****ed it up. Now i'm using a custom rom cause I haven't done an backup of my old system.
[HTC U Ultra Questions & Answers] QDT:
I guess you are on the Single SIM phone. From what I've been reading here and there, people are saying it is more finished than the DualSIM. Although it has a very aggressive battery saving settings so many of your apps will be terminated while the phone is on idle (apps such as Skype, Signal, WhatsApp etc.) unless you grant them exemption from battery saving.

The SOT is said to be shorter than Nougat.

However, to properly install the OTA you do have to have the factory recovery (not the TWRP).

(I'm on DualSIM and still Nougat so take my words just as a hint.)
[HTC U Ultra Questions & Answers] Amphibius2:
I've been on Oreo for a while now and I would say that the battery life got better after a bit of use. Kinda like if the phone had to get used to my usage? Went from 2h SOT to nearly 4 and a half hours SOT. I didn't reset it or anything. Just went with it and it works fine for me. No real increase in power since nougat was already very smooth and powerful for me. I like the design though. Don't regret installing the update:victory:
[HTC U Ultra Questions & Answers] QDT:
So, since I've just messed up with my Xposed/Magisk install I think I use the 1st of May for upgrade and tweaks.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Vell123:
Hi all, I was wondering since we have Safestrap, https://www.xda-developers.com/snapdragon-samsung-galaxy-s8-galaxy-note-8-safestrap-recovery/ https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-8/development/recovery-locked-nougat-7-1-1-safestrap-t3772765 , something like TWRP but for locked bootloaders and we have an Oreo OTA https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/how-to-install-android-oreo-snapdragon-t3716281 shouldnt it be possible to have a custom Oreo Rom for the N950U?

Shouldnt we able to abstract the bootloader need for Oreo form the zip, as well as the system, apps etc and have a full running and rooted Oreo rom that has the proper bootloader to boot. Also we could import safestrap in the Rom so if things go bad we can always go back to a previous backup without worrying about starting ALL THE WAY OVER TO ROOTING....and if we create debrick imgs and or fiehouse for the N950u if we accidentally hard brick the phone cant we just come back no problem. I've been thinking aobut this for some times even reached out to a few devs. Any input?​
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] shidharth solanki:
Why all the devs developing same UI in different Roms.

We wants some NEW UI like color os, xperia, vibe UI, flyme UI.

Please build Roms with NEW UI.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] preyan:
Why don't you make one for us?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] MaveFL:
Sure boss.

May we help you with something else?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] Black_Stark:
Ok boss and.for flavours what u prefer. ? Vanilaa, strawberry, chocolate, mango, banana, pineapple almond,
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] shidharth solanki:
It is not funny man.

Every one is making Roms with same UI. They know how to cook Roms thats why I am asking for NEW UI.

If i know how to cook ROM than i dont ask that.

This is not the thing to be angry.

And If you want than develop all the flavours...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] Androbots:
I am waiting for the company to publish the sources for NEWUI its a pretty sick rom and much better than say Miui hope the company is fast. Also i am trying to port Oxygen OS 5.0 I know it's closed source but I can try.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] shidharth solanki:
What do you mean By NEW UI...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] Tatoh:
You should try MIUI, it seems to fit your criteria...
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] MaveFL:
I don't think you fully understand how is the process of "cooking" a ROM.

That ROM must be open-source (i.e.: the source code is free to use for everyone), ROMs like Samsung Experience, Oxygen OS, Vibe UI, Color OS etc. are NOT Open-Source, so how to build those ROMs if you don't have access to the source code? Of course, there is a workaround for this, that's the porting of a ROM, but it requires insane amount of work, time to fix bugs and errors. Also worth noting that the device MUST have the same (or at least very similar) hardware, you can't port ROMs for kenzo from, say, OnePlus 5. And even then, kenzo has some old blobs and drivers, so porting ROMs is even more difficult.

Hope that helps.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] shidharth solanki:
Now i understand thanks for your time to explain all these things
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] Sophia92:
U can use substratum end endless variety of launchers to customize your rom if you don't like something. Using these you can change every component of the user interface to whatever you like.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] Aditya@123:
Wait for dot os oreo
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] sssaini007:
Rude

I see People here on xda are hopelessly rude when someone asks these kinda requests. What's the matter guys? Ever heard of something called 'freedom of speech' . C'mon guys we're better than this. Accept one's perspective. In a way he's right. I've been feeling the same for a very long time now. Everyone just tweaking the same stock android a bit here and there and naming it like: super cool os, cosmos os, crazy fast os and stuff. Hell, some don't even give screenshots of these roms cause they know it's all the same.

No offense btw, really. I respect every dev's selfless efforts into Making all the free roms for us. But u know someone needs to think out of the box once in a while. We got so many devs here, instead of divided efforts why not try a collaborative approach and cook something which was really hard for someone to do alone. Kind of like bringing TouchWiz ui, Xperia or any other cool stuff. It's just an example not to taken too to the point of though, if these OSs are hard to port.

No offense to anyone :) thanx to all the hard working devs :highfive:

And guys please try to behave better :victory:
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] pks20031992:
very true, they are more rude when you ask something in their telegram group.

---------- Post added at 04:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:08 PM ----------

and they must collaboratively cook a ROM , so that they can fix almost all the bugs and make ROMs better than they really are.

IMO they try to cook one ROM, fix some bugs and then move to new ROM that's very frustrating. I have tried almost every ROM out there for kenzo and all have some bugs here n there. bugs like low net speed, excessive heat compared to miui , lags etc.

Sorry for my English BTW.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers] Aditya@123:
If dot is is available for your device then try it it has android p ui and if not available then wait for it
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ttran001:
Snap Shots/Cabs

Here are some cabs that most people tend to use.

A lot of people asked for the splash screen and radio from v3.0, so here it is...

You need to flash it the same way you would with any rom, it will only update the splash screen and radio and not the actual rom/OS.

Open Touch v3.0 Splash and Raido
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mda07:
finally!!

CANTT WAITT TIL it comes out...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] !eon:
So excited now, just can't wait to get my hands on it!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] molesaied88:
so is this done or not? im lost.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] omegatek:
:rolleyes:

Can't wait... I've been waiting for this bad boy.

I'm currently using the 3.0 Opentouch and it is AMAZING!

Looking forward to 6PM...

Thanks for all your hard work!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] timace:
can...

i just flash from previous version, or do i have to hard reset??? -thanks and cant wait
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ElProempie:
Go to start, settings, systems and tab clear storage. Be sure you backup all your files on your storage card or you pc.

Then just install the ROM and your done.:cool:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mda07:
yea just flash from previous version..no need for hard reset but make sure you do backup your contacts and what ever else you may need..
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mda07:
question??? to ttran001

"Things to do after flashing your device:

Network Wizard

Go to \Start\Settings\Connections\Network Wizard

Choose your location and provider, do not reset the device when prompted."

how come we shouldnt resart when prompted after network wizard configures the device??
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] timace:
ok thanks ive used pimBackup before it saves the contacts to my sd card right so when i start with the new rom they will still be there???
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] nKiwan:
IT'S LIKE CHRISTMAS ALL OVER AGAIN!! CAN'T WAIIIIITTTT!!! Ttran, ur ROMs are like crack, I NEED IIITTTTT :P 11 minutes and counting...

Thanks for your hard work ttran! make sure u tell ur family that we appreciate your work and dedication ;)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] mda07:
am guessing pim backup is included in this rom so you will just go to pimbackup and restore all your contacts to your phone from your sd card...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] molesaied88:
6 eastern?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ttran001:
CST - Uploading now...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] infamous54:
[gene quagmire]Gitty Gitty Gitty Alrrrrrrrrright[/family guy]
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ttran001:
The first version is up, check the first page folks,

Enjoy,
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kreep22:
downloadin now. about 80 percent done, you the man T