yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
[MENTION=6035969]Subho1999[/MENTION]

Tha first 3 pictures are Force-Stop It app. It is extremely outdated and doesn't necessarily show system apps or processes. All the app on there are constantly running, plus others sometimes. But when greenify won't hibernate an app, this app usually will.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] phoberus:
Also a nice try would be DU with different kernels. Stock seems pretty good, I tested it last weekend with my setup and also caesium worked nice
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] goodoldie1996:
Which font are you using? And is it desire theme?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Big Blu theme playstore. Best theme. Rate it if you like it. It is updated regularly.

Font is Magisk mod.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] goodoldie1996:
I tried installing the font, but it says that tits not a magisk module :/
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Yeah. This has been brought up before. Only solution is to find a copy of Magisk 15.0 or install Magisk 16.0 after a clean flash and try again. It hasn't been updated in a while and so I doubt it will be. Sorry. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. If you can get it to flash it'll work until you clean flash again.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Riddle5:
So... It's good or nhaaaa?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I would definitely say good. It woud average out to 6 hrs screen time. Over 20hrs total. You are using an excellent rom with about the best kernel you can use. You are set with all you need for a daily driver

What happened to DU? Or are you just a flashoholic like me?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] goodoldie1996:
Have you tried MSM xtended rom? Will you be doing a test on that rom as it's stock kernel is mady's kernel?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I'm on Bootleggers and probably sticking with it for a while. Customization, performance and battery wise, it is where I want to be. It takes a lot more to switch roms than it is to switch kernels. Bootleggers has a couple of bugs, and they are not addressed in next update, I may consider trying a different rom. But anyone who tries any rom and cares to share about it here, is free to do so.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] goodoldie1996:
Yes, bootlegers is by far one of the outstanding oreo rom. I loved it and even i did not want to switch, but there were some bugs like apps crashing, reboot took me to charging screen, poweramp crashing (music is very important to me). So i had to change rom. But I definitely will be looking out for the change logs and the feedback for the next bootlegers update.

Currently using omni because I'm tired of jumping roms, all the time it takes for setting up apps. I hope PA team releases their oreo ROM soon.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Yes, I'd like to try crdroid, msm latest and possibly a couple of others. But like you said, setup time is a lot. I would have stayed on Omni, but I need my longpress right hardware button to be able to take screenshot and that option was not available. Can you confirm if that option is still not possible or a screenshot of hardware button options. Bootleggers needs to fix notification slider and reboot issue. They seem to be simple commits, but I don't build roms, so I can't really say. But I don't have apps force closing. If next update for Bootleggers is not soon or does not fix these issues, I'll move on, and probably try MSM first
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] goodoldie1996:
Unfortunately, the option you require is still not available in omni rom.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
It's just hard for me to leave Bootleggers when constantly getting stats like this (custom kernel with my custom tweaks, of course)

Look at average battery time in GSam picture
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Riddle5:
it's still DU I'm very fond of that ROM, I'm thinking about just changing it until Paranoid Android comes out
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] AndreiVolk:
All the phones have a hardware key combination for taking a screenshot. The most used combinations are volume down + power button and home + power button.

The first one it's android's default combination and it's present in all the custom roms. And since I'm on omni i can confirm it works here too ;)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
This is actually what I was referring to, Easy screenshot, no third-party apps, no button combinations QS pull down
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I realize my results are not typical for everyone's use. There are some *basics" to remember when trying new kernels. Before you try any rom or kernel, read threads thoroughly. If you don't understand some of the things that you read, research before you go in head first. I read threads about roms I've never used and see comments about hard bricks and boot loops, etc, and generally, it has nothing to do with the rom, but is because mistake in flash process, or failure to follow directions. And things that are explained in detail and sometimes bold letters in OP or throughout the thread. Always read about changelogs etc, before you flash. Developers will most of the time give you all the information you need. Updates may just be security related, or may be a complete overhaul. They typically inform us of these things to prevent us from making mistakes.

When it comes to kernels make sure to follow recommended flashing procedures by reading threads and following instructions. Always flash your current rom before flashing a custom kernel. You do not want to flash a custom kernel on top of a different custom kernel, it can cause problems
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Scorpion70:
Great ?

I have a question, Does DU rom have tap to wake feature?

Cuz i didn't find that!
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] goodoldie1996:
No, they disabled it by default in v 12.2.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Priix:
Hey , I'm new to this phone so can you suggest me a rom & kernel to try or which is it that you liked .

from the few post i get that bootleggers + franko seems to be working great.

anyways , my first concern is heating . does it heat when you play online games ?

and wbt performance ? Doesn't franko kernel slide more towards battery ?

finally, is there any rom that has do not disturb while gaming ?

Thanks in advance
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
There are multiple roms that are capable of all your needs. I prefer stable and battery friendly, without sacrificing performance. My recommendation if you are new to device is to read READ read threads. Op's and recent comments will generally tell you all you need to know. If users post bugs and they are confirmed multiple times throughout the thread or after most recent updates, you may want to avoid that rom. But there are multiple choices that are stable and battery friendly, but it really depends on personal preference. From roms I've tried recently, Omni, Nitrogen, Carbon, Cosmic MSM Xtended, Bootleggers, Aosip, aokp, are all stable enough to be daily driver. Ground Zero roms like Validus are usually rock solid as well. Just read threads, features list, etc and try the ones that sound like they might be the one. As far as custom kernels are concerned, the same thing applies, read everything. But I would personally recommend sticking to kernel that comes with rom and let it settle and see how well it works before flashing a custom kernel. Developers include kernels that work best for their personal roms with settings that make their rom more fluid and friendly.

Oxygen honestly is a great choice as well, but there again, it is all up to personal choice. There are too many options for different types of users to say this or that one is the best
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] goodoldie1996:
Bootleggers FTW!
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Checking reboot now
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
It reboots now!
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] goodoldie1996:
Yep, i flashed the latest build just now. It works fine. :good:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Going to test this setup today
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Ihe87:
Madys x-14?

Edit: The question is: why not the latest one (x-18)? :confused::)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mvn66:
Did you dirty or clean flash? And OB26 or OB27 firmware?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
That's where I got the best results for my use. Latest versions are too busy for me. Sometimes less is more. I might try x18 after this. I have never tried latest
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I dirty flashed. Switched to ob27 a few days before. It works well
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Bootleggers 5/23

with Mady's X14
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Everybody asking about my font, it's found here. Does not work for everybody https://github.com/HUMORCE/Systemlessly-Font-with-Tsukushimarugo-A-CJK-Sleek
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] vishruthys:
I'm on bootleggers latest build and stock kernel. Getting great idle drain but active drain is very high! Any tips to reduce it? Haven't tweaked any kernel settings
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] MohammedAbid78611:
Yo mate what's the substratum theme you have used it looks pretty dope IMO

And thanks for the results you post it helps a lot in choosing the kernel
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
That's a high number. What were you using your phone for during that hour the screen was on?

First thing I can suggest is use built in battery monitor or any app that helps figure out what is causing drain. GSam, Better Battery Stats, Greenify, or anything that can show you what is running and what was running. You can't fix battery drain if you don't know what is causing it. I'll be willing and more able to help you if you do that.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Big Blu Substratum in playstore. It is awesome and regular frequent updates. Developer is friendly as well

I pair with Valerie theme. I use Valerie with Big Blu for Android system and System ui and Valerie only for QS tiles
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] scrbenni:
[MENTION=8251855]gFknQ[/MENTION] does support microg on bootleggers? Thx
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Excellent question. I do not know for sure. Below I have given their thread. If you check OP it gives link to telegram or you can just query [MENTION=7581763]Rkschunk[/MENTION] on thread. I have never used microg, but it is something I have been considering. If you find anything out, and it works, please share it on my thread

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-3/one...opment/rom-bootleggersrom-2-1-stable-t3765818
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Riddle5:
for me it works better in DU mady X18, the mady x14 I feel a little loose and with more battery, soon I will try the x19 and see how
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I switched to X18 yesterday. Now ther is new one. Probably let X18 settle a little before switching up
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Okay. X19 it is
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Bootleggers with Mady's X19 kernel. Almost 5 hrs screen tiene, 20 hrs total and still half my battery left people
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
[MENTION=8251855]gFknQ[/MENTION] so far which is your preferred kernel on Bootleggers? You clearly seem to know your stuff and your the one who converted me to Bootleggers :P
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I'm still trying to figure that out. I've only tried stock, Mady X14, X19, and Franco on last Bootleggers build. My choice was Franco on previous Bootleggers build due to some incompatibility with Mady's and slightly better overall battery (and probably performance) than stock kernel. But latest build is different. Getting better results and full compatibility (as far as I can tell) with Mady's and stock rather than Franco. I'm on Mady's X19 and my tweaks work great. Now I am testing the hotplug features, but just started, so we'll have to wait and see. But long story short, Bootleggers has a very capable kernel built in. One of the best "stock" kernels I've experienced. But is it better than Mady? I haven't made that determination yet. My advice would be to flash Bootleggers and keep stock kernel for around 48hrs on your device with your normal usage. Keep note of your stats every 6 to 12 hours. Then flash Mady's and do the same. Compare your results. Post them here if you want, I know my results, but yours, I'm sure, will differ. I'll continue to experiment and post results here
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] desiresiscool:
Can you please tell what tweaks you are using, thanks
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
It's on page 16.

Set all on boot:

Underclock cpuz

Little Cluster - 1132

Big Cluster - 1056

Both min - 307

Both governors - Interactive

Disable Cpu TouchBoost

Disable msm_thermal

Enable Core Control

Do not allow work queues

Gpu:

Max frequency - 315

Min frequency - 133

Initial - 214

Powersave governor

Backlight Dimmer Enabled

High Brightness Disabled

Only setting I adjust for memory is

Set Dirty Ratio to 20

I/O - cfq

Readahead 128

TCP Congestion - cubic

Block Wakelocks:

Wlan_wow_wl

Wlan_pno_wl

Wlan_ipa

Wlan_extscan_wl

Wlan

Sensor_ind

Qcom_rx_wakelock

Netmgr_wl

IPA_WS

[timerfd]

NETLINK

Disable gentle fair sleepers
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] ianthemojo:
Have you considered using Alucard CPU Governor and Maple Scheduler? At least for me or gives me a bit more battery life but an overall even smoother UI.

Am using Mady's X18 Kernel.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I have added my kernel settings to OP, 5th post. They may be adjusted, modified etc varying by kernel and/or rom I am using at the time, but generally they stay the same. My settings are ALWAYS the tweaks I use to get the best battery for my usage, BUT I will not tolerate lag or poor performance, and if I experience such things, I will update my posts and experiences. These settings work great for me, your usage surely differs, and therefore more than likely, your battery life and performance may differ as well. If my settings cause issues either don't use them, adjust the proper settings according to your issues, or post about it here, and I will TRY to find an answer or solution.

Thanks everyone
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
A couple people, whose opinions I deeply respect, have suggested these very same settings you are. I tried them both together and separately, and noticed a slight difference in speed, but not quite as good battery. That was a different rom and different kernel, so I may try it again. Checking out Mady's x19 hotplug features right now. Thanks for the tip
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] ianthemojo:
I might update and try the hotplugs as well. My underclocks are not as aggressive as yours, but still managing to get around 14% to 15% active drain and 0.3% to 0.5% idle drain on NOS with X18 while maintaining a really smooth and responsive UI with Alucard and Maple.

Prefer the stability on NOS rather than Bootleggers, even though I know I would get better battery in BL.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] desiresiscool:
Thanks
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] ianthemojo:
Interesting fact, the Conservative governor gives me slightly better drain (around 1.5% to 2% on active drain) than Alucard, while still maintaining the same UI smoothness.

Read somewhere some time ago that the Conservative governor gave better performance than Interactive, while conserving more battery (hence the name). It was a Reddit post on the OP5, but I did see and still am seeing improvements over Interactive on my OP3.

Just thought I would share this.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
There is an explanation of both found here, if anyone is interested. Thread is a little outdated, but general description still applies

https://www.google.com/amp/s/xdafor...f-to-date-guide-cpu-governors-o-t3048957/amp/

5: Conservative:

Description:

This governor biases the phone to prefer the lowest possible clockspeed as often as possible. In other words, a larger and more persistent load must be placed on the CPU before the conservative governor will be prompted to raise the CPU clockspeed. Depending on how the developer has implemented this governor, and the minimum clockspeed chosen by the user, the conservative governor can introduce choppy performance. On the other hand, it can be good for battery life.

The Conservative Governor is also frequently described as a "slow OnDemand". The original and unmodified conservative is slow and inefficient. Newer and modified versions of conservative (from some kernels) are much more responsive and are better all around for almost any use.

8: Interactive:

Description:

Interactive scales the clockspeed over the course of a timer set by the kernel developer (or user). In other words, if an application demands a ramp to maximum clockspeed (by placing 100% load on the CPU), a user can execute another task before the governor starts reducing CPU frequency. Because of this timer, Interactive is also better prepared to utilize intermediate clockspeeds that fall between the minimum and maximum CPU frequencies. It is significantly more responsive than OnDemand, because it's faster at scaling to maximum frequency.

Interactive also makes the assumption that a user turning the screen on will shortly be followed by the user interacting with some application on their device. Because of this, screen on triggers a ramp to maximum clockspeed, followed by the timer behavior described above.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] ianthemojo:
Check this article on XDA.

https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...s-with-conservative-governor-for-some-reason/
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] deepakdavidster@gmail.com:
Hi all,

I just installed DU12.2 , I see that wakelock blocking option is not available in the kernel manager (EX), So DU doesnot have blocker option?

Also if I install Madys kernel will EAS scheduler option will be there?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I have very little experience with DU. I can only guess that it has some default wakelocks. You may ask here to get better answers from a larger reader base than what I have here. Sorry can't be more helpful https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/info-list-oreo-roms-kernels-available-3-t3688139/page234
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Looking for readers' opinions on Liquid Remix or MSM Xtended roms. Please
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mk_1996:
Never tried liquid remix(want to try though,cant bcoz of exams). MSM is a dream come true. At first i wasn't impressed with the battery life but i gave it some time and boy it did wonders. Mady's a genius. I usually tweak a custom kernel but on MSM i left it at stock and was hapoy acc to my usage. My usage includes, Car BT for an hour a day. Lot of push notifications and sync in the background. Some YouTube videos. Streaming amazon music,some social media and with this kinda usage i used to get 5+ hours of SOT. Sometimes 6. I stream a lot of music and most of my battery is eaten up by bluetooth. So i would say MSM is as stable as a ROCK. Well optimised. Snappy. Plus if you have some feature requests,dev would most probably add it. I really wanna try liquid remix. I've heard great things about it. I would see whats all the fuss about in the coming days.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] matti05:
[MENTION=8251855]gFknQ[/MENTION] can you help me to figure out what is causing this horrible battery drain?

Bootleggers newest, Madys X19, 5.0.3 firmware, I applied your settings from 5th post.

Overnight stats below
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Your screen on time looks fine. Screen off not bad. Are you using GSam widget? Because nova launcher and gsam should not be using that much battery. I'm including my app sucker stats below so you can see. I don't use Spotify, but it looks like a big battery drainer. Might consider using Greenify for Spotify. Maybe put Facebook in shallow hibernation. Or try Facebook lite or an alternative like Maki or Material Facebook from XDA
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
[MENTION=8251855]gFknQ[/MENTION] can you help me to figure out what is causing this horrible battery drain?

Bootleggers newest, Madys X19, 5.0.3 firmware, I applied your settings from 5th post.

See gsam only uses 0.4 for me

What is xdrip?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Will be testing latest ElementalX, Franco plus all these kernels on Bootleggers including stock kernel starting today. All with my tweaks
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] matti05:
I don't use gsam widget.

Xdrip is a glucose monitoring app. It uses Bluetooth to communicate with another device.

I will try to greenify Spotify and check Facebook alternative.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Okay. I tried to look up xdrip and it said something about glucose monitoring and Bluetooth. I have no idea about that app, so if you need it, I wouldn't change anything there.

But I don't understand the super high battery drain on Nova at all. Unless you were setting Nova up or have a lot of widgets, I can't imagine why.

But still, in my opinion, your overall battery drain is not terrible. I often experience between 11-12% with.screen on. I never use much more than 1% with screen off, BUT I use shallow hibernation for Maki(Facebook & Twitter), Snapchat, Instagram, etc. And xdrip+ may run a little while screen is off. But again, xdrip is health related, and in no way would I try to advise you to change anything with it.

Have you had your current setup with Bootleggers and Mady's for a while or is it new setup? If you have had it for a while, are these the the type of results that you typically get? Your results should improve at least a little by greenifying those social apps. Good luck and let me know how it goes

Edit : I never use Bluetooth, so naturally, my drain will be less