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[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
OK, I've tried to use MIUI 10, but it us very impractical to use unless you already have a Mi account. They have some good features and battery life seems actually quite good, but the ROM itself seems bloated with unwanted systrm apps but are actually part of the settings. It's very nice visually, but very weird and difficult to transition to. And that is without even considering the Mandarin in many of the apps and settings.

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What kernel manager r u using?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhi8897669398:
Ex kernel manager app with madys latest kernel
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
I went back to OOS and I have to say I'm a little disappointed with the battery drain :/. I should just stop changing ROMs so often :P. I mean, I just want some simple ROM, with battery life and stability being most important. I like some features, but the ones with too many dials and so are so frustrating to get around. Any recommendations for which ROM I should stick to? (Sorry this technically isn't related to this thread, but you guys seem the most knowledgeable)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
For me, NitrogenOS was probably the simplest to maintain. Always stable, battery friendly, plenty of customizations, but not too many. Updated easily, backups worked flawlessly, worked GREAT with substratum. Perfect for anyone who wants a stable rom with easy maintenance in my opinion
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mvn66:
For battery life and stability my experience with omnidragon has been great for the last few weeks. 5 hrs SOC, smooth with stock settings and no issues at all. And simple. Just flash and forget. Would definitely recommend.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
What Gapps do you generally use?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Open gapps nano. Trying out GZR Zero right now. GZR nano is out now too. But since I'm setting up fresh, I'm checking out Zero
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
Yeah, GZOSP seems interesting although I don't know the technical differences with AOSP other than it's AOSP and CAF
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] henningsieh:
Opengapps Nano is a good choice in most cases, I think.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
I see there are 2 versions of omnidragon: R & S. What are the differences? I can't seem to find it on their thread :P
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] william_lie:
I choose GZOSP if i were you, stock Android, no customization at all, battery friendly, REALLY FAST.

If you like to try some new features ＆ customization, jump over to MSM Extended (hint: plus Mady kernel) :svetius:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
I tried MSM Extended and it's clearly a good ROM. From first flash the battery life is very good. But I would say about 25% of it's features I don't know what they do or how to use them. And Mady's kernel is clearly excellent from my experience.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] sankar13:
R is the rounded corners version and S is for square version.

Also, the link for each build is given separately in the OP of the thread. :)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Hi [MENTION=8200943]Slectone[/MENTION],

In the last months I have tested almost every rom and kernel, and I share your opinion. Too much features that I do not need, to much settings which are frustrating.

After my journey I also came by GZOSP (mentioned above) which is very good in battery and speed, but for dark theming you need something like Substratum.

This week I thought about my journey and everytime it seems I come back to OmniRom in combination with the OmniDragon kernel.

In fact, I can not think of one thing I do not like about this combination, except that I am always looking for a combi which is even better in low battery drain.

I would therefor recommend OmniRom with the OmniDragon kernel.

This way you can use EX kernel manager or another variant to block some wakelocks, you can disable fsync and are more flexible then with the stock Omnirom kernel.

I am using AppOpsX to prevent some apps keeping the rom awake, further the script which I mentioned some posts back, which is also a nice list of my experiences.

When you want something good out of the box without any bugs (Omni is really really good in this!!), you really should try this combi out.

When you want some help I can share my further setup.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
I just noticed, thanks though :)

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Thanks, very informative post. Do you know the differences between Omni and Omnidragon ROM?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
OmniDragon has more features integrated as wakelock blocker, appops, optimisations etc.... you can find at the OmniDragon topic.

You could try OmniDragon and 'forget' the options you do not need or use, I felt more comfortable with the combination I mentioned.

Just download both and install them on a wet and windy saterday or sunday to see what fits most for you..... ;)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mvn66:
Hi [MENTION=8175708]Jan_L[/MENTION],

Do you mind sharing your setup. As I read in some other post you mentioned the use of GSM doze module shouldn't be necessary if your setup is right. In my case I have a lot GSM wakeups, reason I'm using this GSM module.

Thanks in advance.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I edited

my post

and added the Excel I am using to remember some settings, as my updated omni.sh script which I am using as debloat script.

No guarantees, you are completely on your own when using this stuff!!!
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhi8897669398:
I hope u bring some new tweaks (try some different tweaks settings regarding governor profiles, touch boost, max min CPU/GPU ,......)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Hi [MENTION=7385580]Abhi8897669398[/MENTION],

What do you have a fantastic forum name btw....

About the tweaks; every situation is different. For example, I do not game on my smartphone, only normal stuff like email, internet, agenda, facebook etc...

That is a completely different situation like someone gaming every day and pushing his phone to the limits.

Regarding the governors this will also give another demand and so another user experience.

Try yourself and find the best for your situation ;)

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There is a new Luis kernel out, based on kernel version 115.

Only thing I miss on this kernel is usb fastcharge (high current), further Luis is great (although performance of HolyDragon is even better).
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
May try some different things soonish. At the moment, I barely have enough time to check xda. Til then, feel free to experiment and share here
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
So I settled on Omni this time around. I preferred its feel to Nitrogen OS. I tried out [MENTION=8175708]Jan_L[/MENTION] recommendation to flash the HDK and I have to say, I'm really impressed. Some very, very good battery life without you kernel tweaks.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
[MENTION=8251855]gFknQ[/MENTION] How exactly do you run your tests? I'd like to back up my experience on these ROMs and kernels with numbers than just telling you what works for me. Like that I can be a little more helpful :P
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I charge my battery to 100%, clear exkm stats(from notification area and clear battery monitor, green circles shown below) and then just let it drain. Accubattery, bbs, and gsm stats automatically start when unplugged, so no need to clear anything. So that's the easy part. The hard part for me testing multiple kernels is maintaining consistent usage. If I use an app or play a game, for MY test, I have to use that app around the same amount for all tests. If I play injustice for an hour on one kernel, I try to match that amount of time throughout testing. Same thing with all apps. But it is not necessary for you to do so, just daily usage is all. And when I am testing, all settings must be consistent. If I use greenify, underclock cpu, etc, it should be the same for each test, unless I am testing tweaks. I guess there are a lot more intricacies than I realized with my testing and too many to list them all here. But honestly, all you need to supply to be useful to me and other readers are battery stats from daily usage and what adjustments were applied like stock settings, doze, tweaks, 3rd party apps or whatever you used to achieve your numbers
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Clearing stats
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
On OP3, Omni, HDK, your tweaks

I think I charged it to 85% last night.

A few games, YouTube, and Reddit is what I spend most of my time on my phone doing :P

I have to say, really impressed with the drain, idle and active. I will say that some of the animations seem less smooth, and some things take a few milliseconds longer than I'm used to.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Turning off fsync will give your phone a small extra boost.

I am using omni and hdk on an op3t but do not notice any stutter. I think the 'tweaks' you are using are the cause of that...
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] vinoxflame:
omni+hdk best combo for stability, battery and performance
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Bearthquake:
Try using omni dragon instead. Same thing, extra features, and more optimized.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhi8897669398:
What is hdk?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Holy Dragon Kernel
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Holy Dragon kernel ;)

Edit:

Haha, it seems I have missed the post of [MENTION=8251855]gFknQ[/MENTION] :eek:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] henningsieh:
Hello everybody,

I read and try ROMs and kernels for several weeks and now I want to contribute with my last experience:

OnePlus3T_Beta30-(09-07-18)-FIRMWARE-flashable.zip

RR-O-v6.1.0-20180715-oneplus3-Official.zip

open_gapps-arm64-8.1-nano-20180705.zip

Magisk-v16.6(1662).zip

HDK_OP3_AK2_OMNI_V0.1.2.0.zip

That resulted in nearly 6h SOT while listening to podcasts, reading forums/blogs/xda and streaming some media content in home wlan.

But, I have a question: why did I never see any wake locks to block in ExKM?

Thank you!
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
First complete test in a while. First ever on MSM Xtended & Mady's X26 kernel
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] smitmakani:
Wow Thats amazing...

Whats you setup ? Rooted ? Kernel Tweak any ? App Ops setting ?

Thanks for sharing
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mister_meet:
FYI this is his thread and all the important information can be found in the starting sections of the thread. He has tested many kernels and all their tests can also be found in the starting few sections of the thread
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mk_1996:
Back to lineage os after a while. Was really confused between some kernels. Finally flashed franco kernel and i don't regret it a bit. What's impressive about this kernel is the standby drain. Since this is the first cycle of testing i decided to watch some videos. The kernel feels smooth. Anyone in this thread who doesn't like tweaking around much and need a balance between performance and battery should go for franco kernel. Its a flash and forget kernel. The downside ofcourse is that it is not updated frequently (which is kinda okay coz francisco's a busy guy and the kernel is perfect as it is) i personally dont mind the no frequent updates part. Its stable and works as it should.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Hi [MENTION=8357285]henningsieh[/MENTION],

Good results and thanks for sharing!

You could try to disable fsync and choose powesave governor with 133mhz as startfreq. for gpu to get even better results.

I think you also have some wakelocks which you probably can disable with ex kernel manager. Because of your question; are you using ex km in expert mode?

And are you using appops to prevent Google play services and Google play store keeping your phone out of deep sleep? This could also help a little to improve your results and make it even better ;)

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Hi [MENTION=8251855]gFknQ[/MENTION],

Besides the perfect drain results again, what is your user experience compared to for example bootleggers and do you like msm?

A rom is more then just measurements and test results, Just curious :laugh:

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Hi [MENTION=7554367]mk_1996[/MENTION],

Do you have some screenshots to share about battery life, drain and the defaults in ex km Franco is using?

I have tested franco's kernel in the past. Indeed an install and forget kernel but that time it could not impress me because of too much drain and some options which were not available....

So I am curious about the rest of the info; may be I will give it a try again... ;)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] henningsieh:
Thanks [MENTION=8175708]Jan_L[/MENTION], but exactly that's the point.

Please have a look at my my exkm wakelock screenshot again: there are NO and have never been ANY WAKELOCKS VISIBLE AT ALL in my exkm. Therefore I cannot block anything!? :eek:

I can see wakelocks in BBS and in Wakelock Detector.

Or did I get something wrong? :confused:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I haven't tried hdk in a while. Do you also not show any wakelocks when using other kernels?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] vinoxflame:
maybe you have an older version of exkm
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] henningsieh:
Yes right, have never seen any wakelocks in ExKM - regardless of the used kernel.

BTW: what is "hdk"? --EDIT: oh... the kernel's short name! Please forget that. ?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I think Bootleggers was just slightly more stable. But MSM is good and everything seems to be settling in and getting more stable with everyday. Think MSM slightly better battery. But I have MSM all set up now, and it seems to get more stable and battery every day. If something goes wrong on MSM, I'm not worried, as I would go back to Bootleggers in a heartbeat. But here's what I mean by MSM battery just getting better.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
lol.. Holy Dragon kernel
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] henningsieh:
Wow, unbelievable stats...!! :eek: :good: :laugh:

Don't laugh at me! :crying: You were too fast, I have already edited my stupid question! :D
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
hmmm... is paid version exkm and advanced mode?

Edit... AND YOU GRANTED ALL PERMISSIONS?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] vinoxflame:
using hdk on omnirom....wakeblocks is there
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mk_1996:
Do you have some screenshots to share about battery life, drain and the defaults in ex km Franco is using?

I have tested franco's kernel in the past. Indeed an install and forget kernel but that time it could not impress me because of too much drain and some options which were not available....

So I am curious about the rest of the info; may be I will give it a try again... ;)

Unfortunately i moved to stock oos as i plan on giving this device to someone else. Rest assured the drain could be because of wakelocks. By default most of the wakelocks are already blocked in Franco's. Drain was decent. Most of the time it used to go in deep sleep instantly. Another thing to note is that i underclocked the big and little clusters coz i wanted more battery from my device and i usually dont game much. So needed that extra juice. Wifi and 4G on all day. Lot of push notifications. Music via BT. With this kinda usage i used to get through a day easily. I took a screenshot right before i decided to switch to LOS. Though not enough info is provided in the screenshot. Rest assured its really a great kernel. [MENTION=8175708]Jan_L[/MENTION]
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
What about speed, features and setup?

When I tried msm and what I remember about it, it's stability was good but it had too many setup features I did not like.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I was about to answer your question and noticed a new update for MSM with a lot of changes.. like selinux enforcing, new animations and more. so let me flash new update and I'll get back to you by the end of today after I see how stability, battery, speed etc are after new update. And thanks for all your help and input on thread [MENTION=8175708]Jan_L[/MENTION]
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I did not update. Have to clean install. And since I just got set up, I'm not ready to do it all over again. But msm seemed a little slow to me at first. But after a couple of days, it seems at least as speedy as Bootleggers and definitely Nitrogen. I think people who claim it is slow need to let it settle. I think features are comparable to Bootleggers in quantity, just different features, maybe a few more. I like all the kernel and doze customization that comes built into MSM. Right now, I think I prefer Bootleggers. But when I decide to clean flash latest update (or possibly wait for the next), it has additional new features, so I'll just have to try and see and report back. If I have to clean flash anyway, I am even considering trying OOS. I just don't think it will be able to keep me happy for too long. If I decide I can stand it, I will test some kernels
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mister_meet:
Do give OOS a try . I am also trying it right now . Experience is pretty ok. These are my stats with no tweaks at all except for Greenify and naptime.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mister_meet:
I am using the custom rom - 3TOS with Franco kernel
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
[MENTION=8251855]gFknQ[/MENTION] What kernel do you recommend on Nitrogen OS? Kinda wanted to to try it out again :P
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Pablo.x:
What do you expect?

Hmmmm, something makes me think that... Madys kernel! :confused:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mk_1996:
If i was you. I'd be on stock kernel. Its very well optimised for our device. No huge drain. Most wakelocks already blocked. You can try mady's too.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] ianthemojo:
I've been in NOS for the past 2 months now, and only for the last 2 weeks I've been on stock kernel. Always had Mady's with it.

I can comfortably say stock is the best option. Even without any tweaks it's beating Mady's in terms of battery life. It's not as smooth, but it's like a 10% difference that you won't really notice.

Give it a try and report back! My only option for a stable, clean and lite ROM with a long lasting battery life out there, even without any tweaks.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
It has been so long since I was on Nitrogen, and I would hate to tell you wrong. But my experience was Mady's slightly over stock. Franco was also great for battery, and ElementalX was a great option for balance. Latest Boeffla also worked very well on other aosp/gzosp based roms I tried. You might listen to [MENTION=7081373]ianthemojo[/MENTION] or ask [MENTION=2911853]BillGoss[/MENTION] as I believe he has been on NitrogenOS since the days I started this thread.

My personal advice whether Nos or Bootleggers or whatever is try stock for a coupla days before considering an alternative. Stock kernels performed near top for those roms
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] ianthemojo:
When you started your testing and when you did test NOS, Mady's was indeed the best option. But the developer has done such a great job of optimizing it and with the last update, with my usage of course, I've been having better battery with stock.

Again, this is with my usage. Mileage may vary.

I would suggest you testing it again, am very curious to see how it would perform now. If you have the time of course. Thanks again for your contribution!
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
:eek:
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
That is a reallly old kernel version.... ;)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mk_1996:
But the performance and idle drain is top notch. The cpu is underclocked by default too.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
That is most current blu_spark I found, and ther were bad issues. Do you know link for more recent? I got that from link found herehttps://xdaforums.com/oneplus-3/oneplus-3--3t-cross-device-development/kernel-t3404970
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Pablo.x:
r217 it's the lastest release.

Just updated when OOS 5.0.4 was out, so I can say that you're up to date :highfive:

Let us know what about that battery life and smoothness.

I'm back to NOS right now and pretty happy after a month (more or less) on OOS 5.0.3 (just changed a day after 5.0.4 got released)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
https://xdaforums.com/devdb/project/?id=15934#downloads but the kernel you have seems indeed the latest....
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I was going to test kernels on Oxygen even though to me it is surprisingly slow ui and touch, and to me it's an eyesore. But out of nowhere, wifi went out only on phone, works on all other devices and I can't get it to work at all. Reset network settings, uninstalled all Magisk mod etc. Won't even show any networks
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Anyone know if I can flash firmware on top of oxygen? Do I have to use 5.0.4 or can I try ob30? Can I dirty flash open beta rom over stable? I read about "network connectivity issues" on 5.0.4, but I didn't know it meant wifi would completely break. And I haven't been on Oxygen since the first week of November 2017
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/wifi-is-not-working-after-os-5-0-4.796962/

Why i haven't been on Oxygen. This is their definition of "stable"
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Halamadrid:
Hey. I know you have tried a lot of roms by now. Wanted to ask which rom do you suggest to someone who is mainly looking for a stable, battery friendly and for a little bit of gaming.?

I know the decision is totally dependent on the person and his/her preferences.

Just wanted to know your opinion on the same. Because you have tried most of the roms.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
That's pretty much the same things I am looking for as well. If you are not too picky about customizations, like I am, omni, nitrogen, du are good choices, probably omni(omnidragon recommended version) best. I mean customizations are there, but not necessarily for fine tuning every little aspect of user interface, which I do. If you love altering those little things, like rounded corners, button mapping, battery bar, status bar, icons, themes etc, I would recommend bootleggers, or even better, msm Xtended. Problem with Bootleggers is inconsistent updates. Users beg for it, but you'll be lucky to get an update every month or six weeks. Msm Xtended devs love feedback and updating and improving and working with users. Bootleggers seems to avoid any interaction and dev apparently maintains several roms. I like tipsy, and seems to be good work in progress, but incomplete at the moment. Very simple and clean. A little too simple for me. I am fixing to try Havoc latest if I can't get Oxygen up and running, but MSM will be my goto for all the things you are looking for plus all the features I like