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[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
As far as I know the 28.85-17 is only available in the US because only they received the 93-18 nougat OTA.

Reteu didn't get 93-18, we stayed on 93-14 and updated to Oreo 28.85.13 than which was now updated with October security patch to 28.85-13-3.

So yes, it seems that Motorola releases different builds for different regions as it was with nougat too.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Scarecrow.:
Worst case scenario we'll have to flash a custom rom...which I intend to do in the near future.. But lets hope there's a solution to this other than flashing a custom rom or unlocking bootloader to revert to appropriate build..Let's wait and watch...they might unify the -17&13-3 builds with the next update maybe... Cause US will need to be updated to latest security patch too mostly...
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] NZedPred:
Just re versions, as [MENTION=5237901]Wolfcity[/MENTION] has said, it seems that Moto are now splitting the branches up between channels, but this time slightly differently to nougat - now just retus appears to be on the 85-17 branch, every other region on 85-13.

As long as people post the OTAs, you'll be able to upgrade to the next version for whichever branch you're on, even if it's manual. I've been keeping a collection of OTAs that I've received either by myself or from others, and they are all available here (note they are renamed to show the from and to builds, as sometimes two different OTAs have the same name):

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9sr0t1b93db829h/AAAXkrYGsEFHWMVi5bgw8Uvla?dl=0

I'll be keeping this up to date, heck maybe I'll start a new thread so it's a bit more prominent. Next, I'll flash 85-13 on my phone and see if I can get 85-13-3 OTA. Edit - not available yet for me.

Also, for those that are rooted, might as well just use the TWRP flashable zips. At least using those you don't need to worry so much about not being able to downgrade.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Harsh.gundecha:
How Is it possible to receive update notification when phone is rooted with magisk ?

Becuase i am getting security patch update notification while i am rooted on oreo with magisk !!
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] NZedPred:
Simply because the updater doesn't even check if you are rooted or otherwise modified. The checks are done by the scripts for the OTA, when you attempt to install them (if you have the stock recovery).
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Harsh.gundecha:
So it will not install right ?

(might be dumb question, sorry :D)

Thank you
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] NZedPred:
If you don't have the stock recovery (e.g. you have TWRP instead), then it won't install.

If you have a stock recovery still, then the best case scenario is that it will work out that there has been a modification, and the install will fail. Worst case is that it would brick your phone, although that *should* be unlikely. I'd play it safe and just install TWRP, or go and disable the update notifications (that can be done somewhere in Settings > Developer options).
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Jimisballjohn:
I am about to do a factory reset to my phone, after I have installed Oreo and October patch OTA. I haven't unlocked my bootloader and I currently don't remember if I can at least execute twrp on my phone. Is there any considerable difference between a wipe performed through twrp and a factory reset performed through the stock recovery menu? In other words, is there a reason to go through all the fuss of executing twrp and wiping my phone through it?

UPDATE: Eventually, I selected to factory reset the phone through stock recovery. The procedure of restoring the phone to as it was before the wipe is actually pretty easy and faster that it used to. However, the Motorola Phone App still needs 1-2 secs to open from the moment I touch the icon. I opted for Google Phone which is pretty neat I would say.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
You know that you won't get back to nougat with a factory reset? About your question: No it doesn't make a difference how you factory reset the device.

You can do it from stock recovery (I prefer this) or from device settings. No need to boot or flash TWRP for that. Only if you want to wipe more partitions than cache or flash something TWRP is useful and for that you need an unlocked bootloader.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Jimisballjohn:
Yep, I knew that factory reset does not drop my OS version back to Nougat, I just wanted to do this factory reset due to the update to Oreo. As I said, the phone feels just like it was on Nougat; the problem with the dialer is persistent, that's why I use now a different one. After July, when my warranty is over, I may root the phone, just to see if this pixel camera mod is worth the fuss made about it. I hardly take photos with my phone (not even selfies), but Adaway, Greenify are the best reasons to go for it.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] snoozer854:
I just did the Oreo 8.1 update on my g5+ yesterday and was wondering if the drop down menu is supposed to look like this(it is showing up white) .

The Power Off/Restart box is also white like this?

I have a feeling this isn't right.

Looks kind of tacky looking

If this is not the way it should be is there a way to fix it?

I hope I posted this to the right forum if not sorry.

Thank you
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] PumaPerez:
I guess it depends on your wallpaper. Try darker one.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] snoozer854:
I am using a darker wallpaper.

Stays the same color no matter what color the wallpaper is.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] NZedPred:
Is normal for Oreo
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] javi.fanelli:
Hi guys, does anyone know when is it going to be able oreo for retla? I am from argentina and still on nougat june security patch. Thanks in advanced!
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] snoozer854:
Oh OK was just curious. Think it looked better in Nougat

Other then that it seems like everything is working fine

Thank you
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
This. You can try substratum to change those colors.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] nicolap8:
I'm using Nova launcher and mine is black.

Also the shutdown/restart small overlay has a black background.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] bazinga137:
That can't be true, maybe it is set to lean more towards the white one, but if you use a very dark wallpaper it will be black. Also it doesn't work for live wallpapers, it's always white on those, needs to be an image to work.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] snoozer854:
I changed the wallpaper to an all black one and it changed to a darker shade.

Didn't realize this was how it was designed to work.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] caroku:
I'm in Chile and no Oreo for retla, still waiting (Movistar).

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[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] javi.fanelli:
So, it seems we'll have to wait for it a few more days. Thanks man
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] gothicVI:
Has anyone captured the October reteu ota? I upgraded with the initial us release from nougat to oreo and applied the September ota aswell and after that never got an offer for the October patch.

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[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] TargetedNuke:
So far no October update on retus
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] neodarklink:
Since October 22 running Oreo 8.1 here.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] javi.fanelli:
Whats your (new) build number?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] protik77:
Got October patch in retus.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] charliepop:
Just updated mine too.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] JohnSmith8786:
Unrelated question but have you figured out how to get rid of that wifi calling notification?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] protik77:
Nah, it comes and goes. Because I've a work profile, I often see two icons. At some point you will just forget about it.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] JohnSmith8786:
Give this a shot it. Go into the wifi calling settings and select mobile preferred, then toggle wifi calling on & off a few times. It worked for me just curious if would for someone else.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ElroyJx:
You should have it soon, I just got opss28.85-17-2 a while ago and I'm on ret-us. No changelog though.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] TargetedNuke:
Got it, downloading now
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] neodarklink:
OPSS28.85-13-3 October security patch since twoo weeks ago :D
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] javi.fanelli:
Thanks man!
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] kuzo:
I comment on my experience.

When I was in nougat, I am one of those who lost the imei by installing custom rom 8.1, but I always had copies of persist and EFS. Whenever I came back to stock via fastboot I lost the imei, until stock 8.1 came out. What I did was to update using OTA and the imei problem was corrected forever... Now I try any custom rom, either 8.1 or 9 and go back to stock 8.1 for fastboot and no problem, I can lock and unlock the bootloader as many times as I want and everything very well.

I clarify that this does not work for those who have installed another persist.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] caroku:
I have updated a couple of days ago, retla.

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[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] manos78:
Hi,

I'm sure that Motorola will finally release the Oreo firmware for the Moto G5+.

However, I feel that:

- They be only one release... after it, no patches or security releases will be published.

- This Oreo firmware will be 8.0 and not 8.1.

- The new firmware will not have Treble support.

In fact, after the Lonova adquisition of Motorola phone brand, the Moto devices have decreased the support!
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Rocketfin:
They're still going to continue providing security patches, now that Google is requiring regular patches. I also remember them saying something about 1 major software upgrade plus 2 years of patches which would make sense
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] psychopac:
2 years of security updates on a Lenovorola device? Am I reading this right?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M1810:
yeah, 1 year of system updates and 2 of SP's (the first year is included in the same year as System Update support)
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] phil0sophic:
Gonna suck with no treble support, that would make a huge difference in future operability.

https://www.androidauthority.com/project-treble-818225/
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M1810:
Hopefully some dev may find a way to give us treble :)
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] manos78:
This will be only true for new certified devices. That's after the release of the P version. So, current devices (with Nougat or Oreo) will not satisfies this.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] psychopac:
It's almost mid May and I'm kind of pissed that Moto hasn't released any news about Oreo update yet.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Rocketfin:
Multiple Motorola Twitter handles have stated they are in the final testing of the update. I don't expect they will really be announcing much more than that until the final OTA is ready
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] thedr34m13:
Also apparently MFN members are under a non-disclosure agreement about soak tests, so unless someone decides to leak Oreo firmware using a throwaway or something we'll be in the dark.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] cpm:
2 years security updates and 1 system update may not be too bad for a budget phone.

However now that Nokia is going with Android One on 2018 smartphones (so far), they'll be getting my money next!

No way I could be bothered going through this wait all over again on another Moto.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] echo92:
Nokia certainly looks a good option for updates (as far as I understand, 2 major updates/3 years of security patches). One of the things I'm waiting to see is if there's an official bootloader unlock for Nokia Android devices - so far I've not seen the existence of the official unlock page.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
A bit OT but just to share some information:

Very important point, an unlockable bootlader would be a complete deal breaker for me.

I'm not into Nokia stuff but I found this thread about unlocking but only for chinese customers:

https://xdaforums.com/nokia-6/how-to/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-qualcomm-t3769930/page1

Also there's something about "buy" an unlock code?

In the Nokia community it sounds like there isn't a way to unlock and probably never will:

https://community.phones.nokia.com/support/discussions/topics/7000011661

To come back to topic, for me the intervals of security patches for the Moto G5+ are absolutely ok for a midranger and if we get Oreo within the next months I'm satisfied.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
It's you Emily??
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] TimelesslyPrecise:
yeah i'll pay the extra ~$100 for a Sony Xperia phone, from what i hear they keep up with the software...

Bye Moto. it was good while lt lasted.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M1810:
No soak test yet.. don't expect it coming june
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] LLegion:
Good for mifrange phones but ee see motorola os not inyerested in updates anymore so ill will go with huawei or xioami
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Rocketfin:
At least they are interested in using proper English ./s
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] wowdog:
https://www.mysmartprice.com/gear/2018/05/21/motorola-moto-g5-android-8-oreo-geekbench/
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] javi.fanelli:
Same here. Thanks!
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] bugmen:
Anyone has December security OTA for retus (28.85-17-2)? Or any valid method to revert to reteu without loosing data?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] versus004:
OTA December 1st security patch (reteu), on unlocked bootloader since 2-3 days.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Just wait a few days, it will be released in your region too. No need to change the channel, it's only the security patch, no other fixes.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] bugmen:
Probably is as you say, but unfortunately some month ago, when it was not clear that different channels still existed, I used this zip to manually upgrade from 85-13 to 85-17. Now since my device is reteu I am not sure I will receive the OTA given the fact that my device is on the "wrong" channel (retus).

It's not clear what was the purpose of that zip given the fact that moto continued to release 85-13 updates afterwards... :confused:
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Ok, you're most probably right, the OTA updates for your firmware won't be pushed in Europe.

The only way to get back on track is to fastboot flash the 85-13 firmware and after that apply to the 85-13-3 update or flash 85-13-3 and take the85-13-5 update which is just rolling out.

You'll find the firmwares here:

https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] bugmen:
So, in order to do that I need to unlock the device, no other way to flash with fastboot as far as I know, right?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
No, these firmwares are signed by Motorola so you should be able to flash them with locked BL too.

Be aware that you will lose your data from internal storage so back it up somewhere before proceeding.

Here's a guide incl a flashall.bat file:

https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/how-to/fastboot-oreo-stock-rom-october-update-t3876014/post78350397

flashall.bat file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zfh67uzfle9hsco/flashallO.bat?dl=0
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] bugmen:
[MENTION=5237901]Wolfcity[/MENTION] Thanks again, in that case what about omitting "fastboot erase userdata"?

EDIT: I tried with the idea above and it worked like a charm, reteu, 85-13-5 (December), all working a NO DATA LOSS! :)
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] beluczywo:
OTAs do NOT work after pre-release Blur install -- help

I installed the pre-release Blur file to an XT1687 (Sprint G5 Plus) which got me to Oreo 8.1 (August).

Contrary to the thread, future OTA's did NOT work -- and they work on an identical phone which waited for the normal push.

Phones are NOT rooted and never have been.

I downloaded the OPSS28.85-17-2 stock file.

It will not update with ADB SIDELOAD -- it says 0.00% uploaded and gives no error message. The zip is fine, you can click on it and view the contents -- it is NOT corrupted and it exists within the Android Platform-Tools directory.

Since the phone is not rooted, I can't do an ADB Push.

This feels like the pre-release update orphaned me into a situation where I just can't load anything now.

Can anyone help with some instructions to get back on a true, factory firmware so that OTA's work again -- preferably without losing the phone's entire setup

FYI -- the LMSA "rescue" is ALSO a dead end (which is really scary) -- it says the "device is unsupported" when the phone that waited is perfectly fine with that tool.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Scarecrow.:
Hey...I'm in a similar fix as you were by flashing the RetUS firmware over 85-13(I have a retIN device)...could you help me out with the steps you did?..Aslo I'm hoping you did this over a locked bootloader? Cause mine is locked.

Thanks a lot.

Cheers!:laugh:
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] bugmen:
[MENTION=6650694]Scarecrow.[/MENTION] Yes, locked bootloader, no data loss.

Save your important data (safety first), download the last complete firmware .zip file (85-13-5), extract it, reboot in bootloader mode, then flash the files step-by-step using fastboot and the commands [MENTION=5237901]Wolfcity[/MENTION] suggested in the post above omitting only the "fastboot erase userdata" (I did not run the bat file, I executed each line individually), then reboot and profit. ;)

In order to verify if the procedure works properly you could flash the previous build (85-13-3) and wait for the OTA (I did not perform this check).

Glad to help. Maybe this procedure could be written somewhere.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] mjrider:
Did you do the other erase steps?, or did you skip them all ?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
You have to skip only "erase userdata" to prevent them from being wiped. There's a possibility of small issues as there may be some problematic files in data but this is mostly the case when flashing bigger updates, a security patch should not cause trouble.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] irfanalinawaz:
Any link to 85-13-5 fastboot.zip?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
As far as I know 85-13-3 is the last you can get:

https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] bugmen:
I got 85-13-5 here: https://plus.google.com/112864292314114682801/posts/SAoKVij61dp or https://rsdsecure-cloud.motorola.co...ubsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] irfanalinawaz:
Thanks a lot:)
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] baskye:
Did you try the 85-13 channel from 85-17.

I'm also in similar situation.

Thanks for the post and files. Now changed my software channel from 85-17 to 85-13 with December 2018 security update without data loss.

Also the play store device is not certified issue has also gone.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Scarecrow.:
Don't have access to a PC right now...Will try in a few days...thanks for your status update anyway :laugh:
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Scarecrow.:
Hey [MENTION=5237901]Wolfcity[/MENTION] [MENTION=9481105]bugmen[/MENTION]

I just flashed the fastboot rom for RETIN.. Thank you so much for all your help..back to the appropriate version with locked BL.

Thanks a ton!!

Cheers!:laugh::laugh:

PS: I used the 13-3 file..and immediately got the 13-5 December security update on setting up.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
You're welcome. Nice to hear it worked for you.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ashutoshmatari:
Thank you guys I successfully relocked my bootloader and flashed stock rom. Cheers!!
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] lm_1970:
Hello. None of those two links work for me. I neither can download the firmware from LMSA, it says device unsupported. Any other link to 85-13-5 stock firmware?

Thanks in advance.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Second link is working for me.

Try again, it it won't work I'll mirror it for you.

Edit: Sorry, you're right, the download stops after about a minute.

As far as I know this build hasn't uploaded somewhere and LMSA has to be updated too.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ashutoshmatari:
I have uploaded the 85-13-5 stock rom in android file host. Please search there as I am a new member, I can't share outside links.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] barbocorp:
Are you full stock? What theme do you apply?

Is Substratum + Andromeda working for you on 8.1? Thanks
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
I am on stock 8.1 rooted with Magisk 18.1, the theme is Swift Black for substratum. Should work with Andromeda and unrooted too.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] lm_1970:
Downloaded and installed. Thank you.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
POTTER_OPSS28.85-13-5

Latest full stock firmware December Security Patch

Should be valid for all regions except US

Credits to [MENTION=9713865]ashutoshmatari[/MENTION]

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603910445
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] gothicVI:
Can that one be installed by renaming it and storing it on internal memory and running the search for updates?

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[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
No, that's a full fastboot firmware, no OTA update.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] spandy992:
Thank you so much bro. Relocked bootloader sucfessfully (retin). But i didnt get February update.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] diegomartinezlovey:
Someone can share february security patch
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ashutoshmatari:
I think motorola hasn't rolled out February security patch for retin channel yet, still waiting.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] riggerman0421:
Already here in US.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] spandy992:
Is it signed? My wifi hotspot didnt work after flashing this.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ashutoshmatari:
yes it is a signed image by motorola. I have flash this file, mine is working fine.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] spandy992:
Sorry. My bad..

Hotspot drivers were corrupt on my laptop.

Rom is fine.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] massima:
Which OS? Disinstall previous drivers, then start you potter in fastboot mode and connect to PC, it will install drivers for you. Use the command "fastboot devices" in a terminal to verify if it is detected. It should work, i did it with my Debian:cowboy:
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] FLASH+HACK:
I have Windows 10, but the problem is that at the time of connecting it does not detect it or install the drivers
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ashutoshmatari:
You can download drivers from motorola's website.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] massima:
If you connect your potter in "fastboot mode" (start your potter pressing vol. down+power and choose fastboot or bootloader mode) not in "adb" mode, what happens??
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ashutoshmatari:
Any news of february security update apart from US region?