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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lightninbug:
Just because I'm telling you want you don't want to hear, doesn't mean I'm being rude. Did I call you any names? No I did not. I have been EXTENSIVELY working on rootting our device. Me and several (14) others started in telegram about a week or two after the device was released. Over time people left for Exynos, gave up, or went for other devices, leaving it to just me. And now I have moved on.

I'm letting you know that there are NO KNOWN BIG Devs working on rooting the snapdragon S9+. Is there someone working on it silently, that isn't known to this community/others, or has no previous exploit releases? I can't speak for that. I can speak for myself and others who were working on it, we are on to other projects now.

We put well over 200+ hours into it. Again, there's no way to fully "write up" what we all tried....We did all the OBVIOUS, and MORE. I have more important things to do with my time, than to write you a report as to what we did. Be glad you got this much of an explanation. The root was that much of a concern to you you would have been in the boat (telegram chat) since the beginning. Good luck on root, and good luck finding any andvanced developers to work on it for you.

TLDR: Keep praying for "Joe Schmo" to release root for you guys. There are absolutely zero WELL KNOWN developers working on it. SORRY IF IT'S BLUNT AND NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR.

And to OP.. Prove me wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Son Rise:
For Which devices US S9s.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
Any variant. Its just a discussion about root despite what some of the more rude people on XDA think. Its just a place to talk about it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] DaPoets:
I use Samsung Pay as my primary means of payment on a daily basis so much that if it wasn't for needing a physical drivers licenses I would just leave my wallet at home at this point. If Root breaks Samsung Pay then it's not something I would want.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
Thats a real good point! I feel the same way. I have been thinking alot about a digital D/L that would be stored on your phone. If that could happen, I would no longer need a wallet. I think all but one of my credit and debit cards are on Samsung Pay.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kimLJT:
I do really love rooting most specially for blocking ads, since non root adblocker used VPN to omit ads which compare to root can be easily add via hosts file without additional software/task (which obviously draining additional battery). also my wifi tools can be run via root only. and wanted to do more and it is only possibe via rooted phone.

though there is a rooting method already in here but seems i cant keep up on that much besides I cant use any pc for now. is rooting like flashing zip file possible as what older devices can be easily did? or way more easier rooting method than currently in here is way much better.

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] VICosPhi:
Root is a must! Phones these days are like computers and when I pay $$$ for a flagship phone, I expect I get "full control" over my device. Samsung Pay is "nice to have" but Viper for audio, Adaway, Titanium backup, TWRP are a must to enjoy my device to its full extent.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
Hey guys, I finally gave up. The haters won! I decided to move on... I had a great time with my S9+ but can you guess whats in this box? If so hit thanks because I am closing this thread and heading over to the Note9 forums (Hint!)

There is an amazing story behind this picture that I will share that regards veterans like myself that will make some people smile. But right now I am going to post this pic and... :victory:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] babyboy8100:
Agreed. I want root but mostly for customs roms. I missed flashing new roms every other day. Also linage or any AOSP rom would look great on our S9+... Just imagine.

I just hope Qualcomm gets replace by some other chip maker and allows us to root. It should be treated like a PC we should have the right to erase the current OS and install whatever we want! I can only dream.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lupin57:
+1 :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Bofahad:
Sure , device is nothing without TWRP , Root & Exposed .
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Son Rise:
Impossible to get TWRP with these dam locked bootloaders
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lightninbug:
Watch what you say, someone might get offended. ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Bofahad:
am waiting to Friday gonna be 7 days , going to be Crazy!!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mrnovanova:
Where is "Yes, but I can't, and I'm cool with it"?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] swieder711:
Lack of root and TWRP is keeping me from buying an S9+. I am on Verizon, so Exynos is not a good option either.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] storm68:
Well get used to it cause many phone companies are locking bootloader now indefinetly, Huawei being the latest and many to follow. Rooting may be a thing of the past if we don't get an exploit and crack. Sad but true...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
That is sad, real sad.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MicroMod777:
Hey Scott!!! Big blast to the past!!! Whats up old buddy!!!!! :))))

My ROM days have too long been gone since the LG G4.

Sadly, it looks like our prime of making roms came and went. It was nice while it lasted.

I've learned to live without root sadly for the past two years. We need a new breed of young super hackers to come along and crack the code. The past great ones we've had in the have moved on to greener pastures.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Karlinski:
To would be awesome! I'd be glad to throw in some cash as a bounty.

As for the future of unlocked bootloaders, it's hard not to consider going back to iPhone with no control over my Androids anymore...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] buddahj:
Clean Rom was fantastic. I used it forever on my nexus 7. Always appreciated all the hard work you put into your builds. This is my first Samsung device. I've been using HTC for the past 8 years, so not having root has definitely been different. Team Venom, J case and the guys had me spoiled lol.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] AndroidUser00110001:
As a long time Nexus/Pixel user I have always rooted my phones but since I received a bug filled Pixel 2 XL (Verizon) I learned to live without root. After my Pixel XL 2 debacle I switched over to the S9+ and am continuing to learn to live without root.

I switched from Chrome to the Samsung browser for ad blocking and using Package Disabler Pro+ to kill bloat I do not need. Other than that I really have no use for root any longer.

Using Nova and all the Google apps I can gives me pretty much the same experience I had with the Nexus/Pixel devices.

Not sure if I will miss the faster updates since each update my old Pixel received seemed to cause more issues...

Just my two cents...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] quailallstar:
I want root on my T-Mobile is S9+.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gravitywell:
I'd like root for my S9+ Snapdragon on T-Mobile!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] baymon:
Honestly, I used to be on the pro-root side but now I'm ok either way. I primarily wanted root so I can do adblock, change the default emojis, and do some minor tweaks with xposed module.

I now have disconnect pro and Youtube Vanced, which solved 95% of the ad issue. Can't do anything about the horrible emoji situation, but I'll live.

Plus, once you got a touch of Samsung Pay, it's kinda hard to not use it when you can. And that means no root.

Additionally, I came from the dark days of windows mobile and early days of Android where rooting is a simple flash operation. Nowadays, I'm honestly a little bit scared with the complexity of just trying to get root to stick on your phone without bricking it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Son Rise:
I heard root is coming soon for all galaxy s9/so plus carriers.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lightninbug:
As did I.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] quailallstar:
Where did you hear this?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lightninbug:
The developer asked to not be linked on XDA. Use Google or duckduckgo to find the thread.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Kolyasport:
give me a link please
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] storm68:
I used Google and nothing found. All inquiries were old. Latest was in March.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mech_supernova:
Root would be nice but most of the stuff I used root for on my other phones can be done on here without it and work just as good if not better, the only thing I can't do is use my favorite adblocker and completely de-bloat the phone. I was able to disable most of the stuff and am trying a different adblocker now though
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Damn right, clean rom on the S9...works for me.

So ditch that locked down snap and go exynos Scott (well unless your on CDMA lol) lets go!

sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jazzespresso:
It is becoming more difficult to root devices for each new Android version, also seems like many OEMs locking their bootloader as well even if device is unlocked version. Even Chainfire himself said, it is going to be more challenging to get root. Also top of it, many apps now won't even work if you have root - yes I know there are several solutions to this such as systemless root..etc... there are several articles and discussion future of Google's Android, what all coming down is that Google eventually locked down everything, becoming next "Apple", considering that Google is working on Fuchsia OS, which eventually replace Android in core - maybe not very soon, but that direction they are aiming - we probably know a little more in upcoming Google I/O 2018...

as I posted in other forum, I have not Snapdragon S9+ unlocked, as you know, does not have root (never will, unless someone comes up something). Not having root, does it really bothers me? not really...i can live without root, but again if somehow root available for Snapdragon S9+, I will take it of course, but not planning the change my phone or buy phone based on root-able or not.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Its true for some manufacturers devices root is either difficult or a complete impossibility these days. Even the new pixels are brutal to mod...barely any roms for my pixel 2 xl and compared to the action we saw on the nexus 5,6 and 6P pretty sad.

At least on sammy exynos devices root is still easily done, we had root and twrp within a week of the S9 dropping. I can see a time when even exynos are unrootable though...already started with the OEM unlock wait time...prelude of things to come i think.

sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
Ha! I wish I could!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Hypera:
Root always nice to have, unfortunately as other said, many apps starting to not run if the device is rooted and/or unlocked bootloader. Customization beyond stock, ad-blocker without VPN, Lux Auto Brightness with sub-zero setting, backups, and probably few more things are nice features. If google can program "advance user mode" that allows us to do those features without root would be nice. I have read that there are less developers for rooted apps as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
IM kinda shocked, 1/3 of the people that took the poll don't want root.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Makes you wonder why they are even here, kinda like when people comment about not wanting to voidi their warranty on a development site...always makes me laugh

sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
Im still agast that sd sammys are locked down. I love snap dragon devices (moved to sammy after a load of htcs) but

Exynos will have to do as root benefits are still to great
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jah2110:
https://www.search4roots.com/how-to-easily-root-samsung-galaxy-s9-sm-g9600-android-oreo/
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] philiptibbs:
Doesn't work we have already had a member pay and only works on Exynos .
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Kolyasport:
answer one click root

screenshot, answer one click root: https://ibb.co/ex5gg7
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] storm68:
I hear what your saying, but, apps are now getting ways to do things without root like YouTube Vance, disabler pro, adclear, amongst others I'm forgetting. That's the reason why I check in on XDA nowadays. There's more to xda then just a root section. :silly:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Yes its mostly for roms/ development root just comes along with those mostly.

sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
This is very true. I have a YouTube Red / Play Music Sub so I am goods there. I just really want host level ad blocking at this point. Even with VPN and Samsung Ad Blocking on the internet I still get too many ads.

IM using a package disabler that works well.

But its the point of it, I pay nearly $1,000 for a phone to watch ads? No!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] storm68:
Completely agree with the ads and privacy ordeal. Loved my Xposed for that. Do miss it...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Son Rise:
You talking about this bro?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] thehullman:
Too risky on a £800+ phone. Rooted all my phones from the S2 but not any more, my S8+ was rooted and had a serious ear piece sound issue, flashed stock rom and unrooted the phone and sent it back to Samsung, they sent it back unfixed with a letter saying naughty boy.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] philiptibbs:
Yes someone already tried it and the website said yes and then when they tried to root it wouldn't work and they talked with support and support said USA S9+ can't be rooted yet only Unlocked international phones .
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jah2110:
But, s9 sm-s9600 are international unlocked... :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
Right on!

WOW! Did you trip Knox?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tiliarou:
Depending on the countries, tripping Knox is an issue or not for Samsung after sale service. In some cases it might not void the warranty.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] celine62:
i admit i would like to do it yes but my s9 + is french and i do not know at all
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] thehullman:
Well it was rooted, that usually trips knox or so I've heard :D
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] 0-0-0:
I'd take a look at these two links for starters and tell Samsung they're being naughty boys.

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1998801

https://www.piana.eu/root/

And also search for "european law rooting phone".
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] thehullman:
Well it still doesn't stop Samsung refusing your warranty and I'm not going to spend thousands on a lawyer and take Sammy to court. So if drink driving in the EU was legal and you got arrested in the UK are you saying you wouldn't lose your licence?.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tiliarou:
On the second link it's written that you don't need a lawyer to start a civil action to court.

Moreover, on your example, it depends on the reciprocal agreement between EU countries but I would say in most cases you wouldn't lose your license.

For example, if you overspeed in Poland I don't believe you would lose points or get to pay the fines in your original country, however some agreement are in place, for example between France, Spain and Italy.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] thehullman:
I still wouldn't risk it til, even though I am addicted to flashing roms but look what happened with my S8+.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Walo:
Hi, what kind of application do you use for this? I have tried several but I still have the problem, especially the ads within the apps

Thank you!

Enviado desde mi SM-G9650 mediante Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
There are a couple No-Root methods, but they primarily involve using a VPN to reroute the requests and skip the ads.

I use Private Internet Access and it has a function called MACE. Works good for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] storm68:
Is there a link for private internet access? Is it an app?

Disregard. Found it but it's a membership type app. Grrrrrr
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] IndDoc:
Yes, even I'm facing occasional problems with ads within apps, like Podcast Player with Adhell3 and SABS. But Adhell3 is able to block effectively 90% of all ads, so it's ok I guess. VPN apps are battery hogs & slow at times, so I avoid them.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] thehullman:
The days of rooting and the risk of killing your phone are over. Who needs a custom rom when you can nearly replicate it yourself using different themes, I used to root for Dolby but my S9+ already has it, they where happy days from the S2 upwards but times change and who want's to keep updating a custom rom every month, not me anymore. :D
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Then why are you even here on a development site?

sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] thehullman:
Not everything is for root, what about all the themes on here, wallpapers etc, come on son, wake that brain up if you have one.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Oh i see, you want to make your phone look cool to show all your buddies....well yes I guess there are those who are here for that too.

Good point.

sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] thehullman:
my phones already cool lad, with or without themes, you still on the S2 I guess. :D
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
So when root does happen I expect you won't be using it lol

FYI I picked up an S9+ and have been looking into root :).. it's slow moving however as I also work full time and pretty much working on my own
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
Cool! If there is anything I can help with let me know.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] thehullman:
No, who needs root, why lose your warranty, those days are gone for a lot of people.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
IM not sure where you are located, but here in the US, if you have a carrier subsidised S9+ you dont need to worry about voiding the warranty. The carrier, in my case Verizon, would replace the phone under warranty if something was wrong.

I know in other countries you may have to contact Samsung direct and get the phone serviced. That would be a problem for them but not for the majority of users in the US with carrier devices.

Also, if you have insurance on the phone and you have an issue and its not covered by carrier then you can get insurance to replace, no questions asked.

So for me, warranty is a non issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] FdeKlerk:
ROOT all the way.

Hi.

I had my S9+ for a week just to wait for OEM unlock option. Once that popped up it was time for rooting.

I can't have an android phone let alone a flagship in stock OEM shape "For me that is a waste!".

Root gives meaning to devices like this, changing; modding and breaking it sometimes.

Root gives access, gives functionality "Yes one does get app nowadays that do a certain amount with out it"

Root gives me Xposed, titanium backup, tasker, Substratum and so much more.

Without root, its like having a car with no turbo.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Sabertooth:
I used to root all my phones. Don't feel that need often anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] HACK3DANDR0ID:
Becuase Samsung REFUSES to let us unlock our Boot Loaders, and the fact that they will not give US/North American Customers the option for Snapdragon or an Exynos Device (Especially now that ALL Bands are running and working on T-Mobile USA, leaves me to believe that Samsung Mobile and Qualcomm have a North American Exclusivity Contract, stating that Samsung Flagships with Snapdragon Chipsets can ONLY be sold in the USA, and we are given no option to order from TMO uk or even Samsung uk. If you didnt already know their S9+ comes with 128 GB. And of course NO OPTION to Unlock our BLs, when the rest of the world can? Samsung just lost a big customer. In the last 3 months i had a S8+, Note8 with SamFail, but couldnt stand the 80% battery, bought a Galaxy Tab S3 (If anyone is interested, PM me) and 2 S9+(s), oh and a Samsung Chromebook 3. My registered devices list is 3-4 pages long and im done after i write a nice letter to Samsung telling them how, what and why i am leaving... So long Samsung! I will no longer be a slave to your ways.

I have decided, as of this week, i will be Purchasing a Google Pixel 2 XL and will most likey stay with Google Flagships and Moto mid-range (Moto G6) Devices. (Fun with Development, cheap enough to brick)

I was hoping, when i got my S9+ on March 13th, like most of us, i was hoping that OEM Unlock would suddenly appear, cant say i didnt give it enough time :(
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] dparrothead1:
Just picked up a S9+ yesterday after breaking my second N6. Now that I have found out that Substratum works on Samsung stock, I may not root.....except for being able to remove some unwanted bloat!!!

Really enjoying this phone!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Bitcoredotorg:
I can't vote in the poll, but no root is stopping me from purchasing this phone. I do want root. I'll only buy an android phone as my primary device if I have proven access to root to do as I please with my device.

Super eager, willing to help if needed.

Thanks Scott.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] philiptibbs:
I'm interested in root only to get rid of all the bloat and maybe a few other things. If there is anything I can do to help please say so. I have tested for the S5 and LG V20 . I'm always available for testing and have insurance so if I brick it thats not a problem. I have the T-Mobile S9+ .
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] pspbyer:
I have installed the SABS adblocker and installed the u1 firmware but still prefer root.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott:
Very well stated!

Yeah man, to be honest here... I totally understand that. Thats how I used to feel back when I was cooking ROMS and compiling source code. Had to have a fully unlocked and supported device like the Nexus 6. I still keep that around to flash or otherwise play with.

But yeah, the worst feeling is waiting for root and knowing that the device is awesome but its a no go until it gets unlocked / rooted / etc!

Edit: Wow, this is my 28,500th post! Pretty interesting number to catch out of the corner of my eye.