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[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I've used Mady's kernels for months, and they keep getting better and they're already dmn good. I knew I would get good results, but I usually apply my extreme battery tweaks. I haven't ran it stock that much at all. I was extremely surprised and impressed by results with stock settings. They basically were the same as when I tweak. Everything smooth, fast, responsive, fluid etc. I can't think of anything to say bad. So far, best test by alot. Any questions y'all have about Mady's X14 performance or battery just ask. All I can really say is that for me, it does all the things any kernel are meant to do, without any of the issues I had with any other kernel. I would rate it 5 out of 5. But, I had a conflict with one of the battery monitoring apps giving slightly different stats. Still nothing I can knock off for

4.9 out of 5. I used my phone A LOT today. Mainly because I haven't been on a kernel where everything works exactly like it should in over a week of doing tests!
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] BillGoss:
Nice!

I keep coming back to OOS 5.0.1 because I get similar results on stock.

But it's nice to see these results on another ROM.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I've only tried Mady's kernel on one other rom, aicp, for a couple of days. Slightly higher battery drain than on Nitrogen, but still very good still. Testing WhiteWolf kernel now, then going to update Nitrogen and try the stock kernel on it. It's usually pretty good stock kernel,
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] phoberus:
Cool would be a overview in OP of your tested kernels with your rating. Nice thread :)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Gonna update Nitrogen and get a few more test in before I try to draw too many conclusions. Might even give Holy Dragon another try, because they updated, and I have to assume the horrible touch screen issue has been addressed. But if I spend an hour on it and have any issues, I'll move on
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Riddle5:
Is it with the stock settings of the kernel?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Yeah, just so everyone understands, neither these tests, or this thread or my posts themselves are meant to sht on anyone's kernel or their work. I'm merely trying to conduct tests as evenly as possible across the board, and sharing my results. Just because my test with my results show one way, doesn't mean that your experiences with your usage won't be different. In addition, a few of these are built primarily for lineage, and results with an aosp or gzosp based rom, may not perform to their full potential.

Almost all of the developers have quite a bit of experience, and maintain their kernels regularly. So Caesium kernel and Nitrogen and Mady's may release a kernel, not function as expected, or find an improvement can be made and release a new build the next day, several days, or a week later. Mainly, when the kernel base itself is updated, that will effect their build and it's battery life, performance etc.

I had two main goals of this thread, to offer a forum for results, opinions, comments, etc...If you don't agree, or have a different experience than mine, that's fine, just come with your own data. I can't say that ElementalX isn't the best or worst kernel for Carbon Os, because I am not using that kernel with that rom.

The second main reason for the thread, is to test my own tweaks and share them. If I tested nos stock kernel and get 15% average battery drain, then apply my tweaks and get 9%, that's worth sharing. If I use Mady kernel and get 11%, apply my tweaks and get 7%, but opening apps takes forever, or it reboots, or sht force closes, that's not a reflection of the kernel, just my adjustments to the kernel being incompatible. That's the type of things I'm trying to find out to learn and share.

My first round of testing, all kernels with stock settings will be done today. I'll provide my experiences and conclusions, and let y'all now how I intend to begin the next round.

Thanks again for sharing my curiosity and as always, if you want to share your own experiences with kernels and your rom, that's welcome as long as you keep it friendly
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
That was completely flash and forget. Greenify to help with idle time, but no cpu, gpu, governor tweaks etc
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Riddle5:
and naptime x?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Yes, normally. But I noticed at one point it wasn't running, and don't know exactly when it stopped. Going to update Nitrogen to most current today, and may try without Naptime and possibly without greenify for an hour or two and see results. Been using then quite a while, but I want to see what Nitrogen stock kernel does on it's own. It's usually pretty good. I'll post results, but maybe short test
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Naptime is always easy to apply, because you only have to toggle 2 things
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Here is results for White Wolf kernel. Am assuming it's geared towards performance first, balance second. Not so much battery. It comes with synapse. I'm not going to get too much into that, since it's basically just another kernel manager. Quite different ui for manager. You can go to the kernel thread to find out more. But since I wasn't tweaking the kernel, didn't mess with Synapse.

Kernel had the highest active and inactive battery drain of any kernel I tested. But it wasn't extremely high. Fluidness and system speed wasn't the highest I've tested, but was still above average. I give it 3.9 out of 5. Phone died at 15% battery and I thought battery was completely drained because phone wouldn't turn on until I plugged it in. But when I did plug it in it was at 15%. That hasn't happened before in tests for any kernel. Luckily, I took a bunch of screenshots just about 15mins before it died. So here's that
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] nickpapeir:
Great post,so in terms of performance which had the highest score?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I would suggest Mady's kernel or stock kernel for performance. Your going to get all the responsiveness you're looking for, no lag whatsoever, and still get good battery.

Boeffla was one of the fastest and most responsive. But you may want to wait until it comes out of beta testing. And it may cause some system conflicts if you are not on los based rom.

White Wolf would also be sufficient, but with the highest battery drain.

I would avoid Flash and Holy Dragon kernel, especially if you're looking for performance, because both caused terrible lag and other issues for me
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I'm going to rank my test on custom kernels with built-in configurations as following based on NitrogenOS based on aosp. Results most likely would have been different for los based rom, and I may test on Havoc-OS in future

1, Mady's X14 - 4.9-all the smoothness and response with more battery savings than you'll find on any other kernel for Nitrogen

2. Nitrogen stock kernel - 4.7-nothing to complain about, but not quite the battery life I got from Mady's. Nitrogen Developer is more likely to help with any problems if you are on his stock kernel

3. Boeffla - 4.1-I'm going to hesitate against suggesting flashing Boeffla, even though it gets my 3rd best score. It is probably one of the best for los based roms, but crashed my Google camera, which I have not been able to get working again since flashing kernel. It was the fastest to me as far as responsiveness and speed, slightly over Mady or Nitrogen stock with above average battery, Still, it may cause some incompatibilities on AOSP based roms. For those reasons, I will not test it or any other LOS based kernels in round 2.

4. ElementalX - 4-was balanced. Flashing through exkm is a plus, in addition to the ease of applying powersave or performance modes through exkm, which are geared towards ElementalX kernel, but work with about any kernel. ElementalX is also LOS based and I plan to study it further, but have not decided for sure if I will test it in second round.

5. Caesium -4-sufficient for performance and battery, but this version DastardlyDurian did not match what I'm uuse to with Caesium kernel, with past versions that would have landed in the top 3. I will be testing this kernel in round 2, with updated versions of the kernel, both because it is built for aosp, and comes stock on a couple of different good roms) and because of frequent updates to improve the kernel. We'll see how the updates prove or improve both recent tests, and past experiences.

6. WhiteWolf - 3.9-good for performance, but not better than my top 3, with significantly higher battery drain. Will not test for round 2

7. Flash - 3.7- very laggy, super slow performance, will not test again

8. HolyDragon - results inconclusive. Gave up due to terrible touch screen. Am going to try again just to see if it was a one time thing for that version. Will let y'all know more
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Have been on NitrogenOS 4/19 with stock kernel and my custom tweaks for about 36hrs. Getting great numbers, 11.6active 0.36inactive throughout that time. But have updated a lot in playstore, substratum, and magisk, so haven't gone 24hrs without rebooting. But here are some screenshots that are consistent with my experience so far.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] pamposmouskos:
Can you share your custom tweaks please? Thanks
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I will share at end of testing to see if it actually makes much difference. Otherwise, you can pm me
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] pamposmouskos:
I already pm you
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
A few things anyone can do to reduce battery is to not run screen at full brightness. I always apply backlight dimmer on boot through EXKM or Franco kernel manager. Then set my brightness to 44%, which is plenty bright for normal daylight. If you do not use backlight dimmer, 11-22% will provide plenty of brightness without having to strain your eyes to see your screen.

Another thing is to use whatever you want, whether it be Greenify, app ops, privacy guard, etc. Most custom roms include one of these options. I use greenify4magisk for things like Google Playstore, Drive, etc. And I use app ops for social networking apps like Twitter, Snapchat, etc. You may have to play with the settings to set configuration to where it won't interfere with normal function, but that's not too complicated once you get use to it
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I am currently rocking X34 with no reason to update to x35. But I haven't experienced any of the problems often brought up with a few of Mady's builds. I have no explanation why I am not experiencing these issues, but I can share how I flash each build and other steps...or better description might be lack of steps. I have exkm basically set everything (using my tweaks) and set to set on boot. As mentioned before, I have gpu max set on boot with Franco manager, but nothing else in Franco or HKM. I never change them. I have been flashing from kernel to kernel, but never change exkm settings, and all my tweaks applied to set on boot persist as I flash each build. I do not wipe cache or anything. No overheating, no new lag, no stutters, no bad battery drain...

As far as this thread goes, I agree. Can be a useful place for information. But with the current state of rapidly changing developments with Android, I think it would be extremely time consuming and a bit pointless to try to test it ALL right now. Pie is going to be rolling out on different roms and kernels constantly and consistently for the next days, weeks, and months at such a rapid pace, it will be impossible to keep up. I didn't start the thread after Oreo came out until there was a solid amount of both stable Oreo roms and kernels to test and provide good data. I would like to see people share here tho, because 20 different people sharing experiences and info on a dozen different roms and/or kernels is going to be much more helpful and informative much more efficiently, than a few trying to stay on top of all the coming releases. Nitrogen may be releasing one or more builds a day for example, and there is no way for me to install it, set it up, and start to let it settle before the next.

So if anyone wants to continue to share Oreo or Pie, please do, and THANK YOU again for everyone that has. I will probably wait for Pie to be available for encrypted device or a mostly stable OnePlus 3/3t Pie rom, whichever comes first
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
May be I am mixing up kernel versions, but as I remember X33 was very stable and with low drain.

After that (X34/35) thermal settings missing, frequencies non-persistent, less important things like changing and changing back touch boost to input boost to touch boost...

It just does not give me the impression of a stable platform where alpha / beta / final testing is done before features are added and things are changed.

Although a very good kernel and an enthusiastic team of good people, I do have more trust in the OmniDragon and Luis kernel because of that.

But, may be some versions later I will try it again. Always curious ;)

And as said before, it is fantastic what all kernel and rom developers are doing. We can choose what fits best for us, for every taste something available :o:o
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Pablo.x:
I'm right now on NOS 9.0, lastest build 16/08 if I'm not wrong and it's just amazing. There's not a lot of personalization (most likely AOSP) but there are no bugs, all running great and battery life as good as it was on Oreo.

Of course it's a great rom to try if you want P taste
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Nitrogen Oreo didn't start off with a ton of features either. But it was one of the first roms, I would call stable(even though the dev would never call it stable), and he didn't add features until they worked correctly. I hope he continues that philosophy for Pie. It saves users and dev huge headache
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
No problems with X34. Everything works fast and fluid on MSM Xtended X10. Phone stayed cool and battery last forever. Just more of what I am use to from [MENTION=7072514]mady51[/MENTION]. All stats from use with my tweaks
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] ianthemojo:
Hello guys! How y'all doing?

I'm back with some feedback about my experience with Pie on the Pixel Experience ROM.

I was using NOS 8.1 for about 2 months and was pretty happy with it, wasn't considering changing anytime soon, until I saw people really happy with the Alpha Pie builds and I decided to give it a try.

Anyone considering jumping on the train, I advise you doing so. You won't be disappointed.

Battery wise, with my usage, which consists of about 2-3 hours of music listening, 1-2 hours of phone calls, 1-2 hours of Youtube and mostly just social media and messaging on either Wi-Fi or LTE/LTE+ (I would consider this heavy usage) I have been getting 4-5 hours of SoT consistently , which is pretty darn good considering it's still in Alpha stage. Not to mention over night I only get about 0-1% of battery drain over 6-8 hours of sleep time. It's on par if not better than on Oreo. This is amazing!

Performance wise, holy crap is this thing smooth. Like really smooth, better than on any Oreo ROM I've tested. And that is without any changes to the Kernel. It feels a bit snappier as well, really responsive.

I do make some personal changes to the Kernel using EXKM, just so the device doesn't get so hot (although flashing latest Caesium Kernel helped a lot in terms of heeting) and to improve battery and overall fluidity a bit.

Touchboost: OFF;

CPU Governor: Interactive;

MAX Freq Little: 1478 MHz;

MAX Freq Big: 1824 MHz;

Boost options:

0: 1228 MHz;

2: 1324 MHz;

Duration: 1400ms;

I/O Scheduler: CFQ.

My settings are pretty much the same as SultanXDA's settings. The rest I leave it stock as in with Caesium stock settings.

Of course since it's Aplha some things don't work, like NFC and Encryption. But I never use NFC nor Encryption, so I really don't care.

Things to note is that GPS does not function correctly as well. It can pin point your location accurately but I wouldn't recommend it for driving for example, has problems with directions. But even with Oreo I had these problems.

Some people also said Hotspot wasn't working properly, didn't have the chance to test it yet.

Apart from that everything is working great. Haven't had any FC's or random reboots nor any major bug. Can safely say this is Daily Driver material.

Anyone wanting to flash, on their thread there is a complete and detailed guide and a Q&A on how to do it properly on page 3.

Basically just flash ROM + Gapps (links in the OP on their thread) and it will work wonderfully. Magisk 16.7 is also working like a charm.

Battery stats on Pie are bugged, some apps I use don't display (like Phonograph) and even the SoT may not be displaying correctly.

I am available to answer any questions you may have.

Glad I can help!

Update: Hotspot is working fine!
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Got a little more free time and feeling kinda testy(kids finally back in school). Thinking about trying a few of these out (not Pie)...any suggestions or requests? Factory encrypted and want to stay that way
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Pablo.x:
If you're not going to jump to P yet... go back to N, flash PA 7! :D:D
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Siraccool:
+1

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or omidragon highly recomended by a lot of users

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talking of nougat though one combo that i highly recommend is aosip nougat with kroniccore kernel
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I do know that Omnidragon does not have full hardware button customization for Oreo, but are planning to implement it on Pie when released. I spent a day on OmniDragon though, and it is SPLENDID. That may be the first Pie I try once it is released.

I tried Paranoid Android 3 times when I was on Nougat, and tho it was extremely stable and fast and fluid, I personally preferred RR Zenity and RR Sultanized. In my opinion, PA and DU are overrated. Not trying to sht on anyone's opinion, as most people disagree with me. But that is my opinion
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mk_1996:
Aokp is still alive? Never knew
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Tried it a few months ago.. Not bad at all. And they have nightlies
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I would like to share my latest experience; GZOSP without Google apps.

Cleaned system some days ago and installed latest GZOSP without Open Gapps or GZ Gapps package to see where I would have any troubles.

In fact there were.... some apps did not work without Gapps so I had to find alternatives. The nice part of it; I found alternatives and am very happy with it at the moment.

Replaced:

Maps with Here,

ParkMobile with App Parking,

Open Camera instead of Skully's modified Gcam

F-Droid and Yalp Store instead of Google Play Store

Further all my apps are working without any crashes or whatever.

Only thing I notice (I did not install microG and UnifiedNLP instead of Google) is push messages is not working because it relies on Google servers.

I have to digg a little further because I only notice a delay with messages at WhatsApp.

The nice part of it; no noticable drain when phone not in use and no Google servers which are collecting my data anymore...

Last I had zero percent drain, even with location enabled...

I will let you guys know further experiences in the coming days. My goal was a smartphone without Google Play Services and everything working without issues; it seems I am almost there.... ;)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mk_1996:
Impressive stats mate. I am looking forward to gzosp Pie. They put teasers on their g+ page and it looks promising.
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
Awesome information once again [MENTION=8175708]Jan_L[/MENTION]. I may go that route myself. Just wondering if there would be any complications when it came to things like games with info backed up to google's Play Game, or in conjunction with the many files I have stored on Drive. Third party email apps with Gmail accounts, etc. Have you tried OsmAnd as a maps alternative? I'll have to check out Here
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] DrUnknownEMC:
[MENTION=8175708]Jan_L[/MENTION]

Hmm, how's goes in app purchase/brought apps or Google Play music?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] gFknQ:
I'm curious as well. EXKM, substratum themes, franco manager, game purchases, swift backup, kernel Adiutor donate, greenify, etc. I've spent at least a few hundred dollars for several things I actually use often
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] mk_1996:
Well its kinda common sense. If you purchased these apps through google play,then they will check for the licence verification. If failed to verify,you won't be able to use them. If you purchased it from their website(like i purchased poweramp from their site) then it might work
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Ihe87:
With Yalpstore you can login with your google Account (just create a app-password with your google Account) and download purchased apps. ;)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] DrUnknownEMC:
But doesn't it still need licences verification from Google service?
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] :
[MENTION=8251855]gFknQ[/MENTION]; as already said by others, ofcourse this route is giving some complications when you are a heavy user of Google applications like you ;)

You have to use microG to get some functionality back, but it is not at the same level as Google Services.

I have never used Google's Play Game, was not using Drive for my files (only backup of Whatsapp which is also stored as backup on the phone), and Gmail, so for me it was much easier to throw away all Google services and applications.

I tried OsmAnd but it is not usable for me because adresses from my Calendar are not recognised at all. Also when you search yourself for an adress, a lot of time it is a hell of a job to find it. I installed Here and everything is working without any issues.

[MENTION=7857357]DrUnknownEMC[/MENTION]; I was very rigoureus and decided to delete my Google account last week, so indeed all purchases are gone.

There is a modified Google Play Store which can work with MicroG so you can still use your app purchases. With Yalp it is possible to buy apps, but because license verification afterwards is not working.

[MENTION=8251855]gFknQ[/MENTION]; For me this was a good moment to see if I could use FOSS alternatives which can be found in the F-Droid store, or at least a free alternative from Play Store, using Yalp.

I decided to replace EXKM by Kernel Auditor from HolyDragon (HDK). In the past I have bought Greenify but was not using it anymore because it brought no advantages for me, and Nova launcher which I am not using anymore for about a year now. I donated for Qksms about a month ago but not because of extra functionality, just to help the developer.

Bottom line, for me no disadvantages because of missing functionality or apps I could not replace and a good moment to look again for some alternatives which were not using Google Play Services and/or were free.

The answer: https://chefkochblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/03/the-best-ways-to-download-google-play-store-apks-apps/ and https://xdaforums.com/android/general/gapps-guidetutorial-microg-t3771483

Some usefull information here: https://shadow53.com/android/no-gapps/setup-guide/

Hope it helps ;)
[OnePlus 3T Guides, News, & Discussion] Slectone:
Paranoid Android Oreo is out