yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] optimumpro:
You are right that CPU/GPU is not exactly below the battery, but it runs vertically the same way as battery, and there is no more than 3-4mm distance between the processor and battery. The better design is processor running horizontally in the top section and battery wider and shorter, starting closer to the middle of the phone.

I had Xperia Z1 with horizontal design, and even if CPU temperature was 70, battery stayed at no more than 30 degrees.
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] vuckovic_stefan:
If you enabled intelithermal than that's normal

It downclock CPU when it is hot

If you want constant high CPU frequency disable intelithermal and restart device than you will be able to set any frequency.

Or just wait for the device to cool down

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I agree. Definitely better design. I saw some increased battery temps, for example when using gcam, it goes up to 40 degrees... Some guys reported much higher temps, probably gaming plus charging phone...

Nevertheless phone is great, for the money i paid especially...

For Sony I don't have any good words, many friends have used their phones, believe me everyone of them said to me this is the last Sony phone I have :).

I heard they give poor sources and their software is bad, laggy, in the very beginning it works but as time passes problems arrive...

I was thinking about buying Z5 dual SIM becauss I read they finally made a solid device, I saw some good reviews...

Not many phones left with SD card slot plus real dual SIM slot plus fm radio :). Z5 has that all, that was the choice, I was thinking also about z3+ but they are messed up.

But Zuk came from a friend who was dissatisfied and gave me really good price :) so the choice was made :)
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Ghost52367:
I personally like the overall size of our fone that fits in a single hand and that we can reach the top of our screens without having to move our hand to the middle, plus the hardware spec for this size and price was a really good, also this fone tougher than it looks, mine has fallen down a bunch of times but still going good. Frankly apart feom heating I don't find our fone to be that bad. Satisfaction is the feeling. Hey do you mind telling me whether phones with the infinity display has the same size as our phones?
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] vuckovic_stefan:
LG G6 and S8 last time I looked

6 inch display 18:9, same size like Zuk

Yeah I like the size also, never was a fan of 5.5 inches and above...

But now you can get 5.5 inch display , 18:9 proportions, in the same size as 5 inches phones.
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Shinichi Kudo:
Low Compute Score

For some reason, i am getting way too low score on Geekbench 4's Compute Benchmark.

I am getting somewhere between 3000-4000, whereas on other roms 7500+ seems common.

On Bootleggers with 710 MHz, i am getting around 8900.

So can someone help me out if I am doing something wrong?
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Mrdream94:
+1 AEX 5.4
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] abhi.goel:
yes the only thing you are doing wrong is by comparing the benchmark scores... benchmark scores are just nos. not something of great priority or worry...you should not be worried about them as long as you are getting the performance from your device which suffices you.. once i got antutu score which even surpassed Mi 6 ... and i was like how the hell 820 could beat 835... since then i have stopped worrying about them
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Shinichi Kudo:
I am in no way trying to compare anything here. I am just pointing it out that since the performance is dropping so sharply in the compute benchmark, all the apps that run on the same principle will be bottlenecked as well. Geekbench is a very reputed testing platform and I am just comparing the scores of my own device with different roms, not with others and stuff. Just pointing out as there has to be a reason for that and the dev might just find a serious bug underneath.
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] jhobc:
This happens with all ROM with Treble support.

On games I don't have low performance also on Antutu I get almost 72k-73k on GPU score
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Incrovantilist:
Hey [MENTION=7594064]xzr467706992[/MENTION]

Thanks for the frequent updates and upstreams man. Awesome kernel.

Only issue I'm facing is that the sound control is null. Whatsoever values i set in KA for microphone or speaker, no effect at all.

Is there an explanation for this or its happening only to me? Using no other audio mods.
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] vuckovic_stefan:
Hello Dev

When intelithermal is enabled in KA, frequency goes down for both small and big cores, and above 70 cores shutdown.

What I noticed is that CPU freq doesn't go up to value they we're before intelithermal downclock.

For example I use 2.2 for big cores but after downclock by intelithermal freq goes up to 2073 and won't change when I try to increase it.

For small cores that value is 1478 mhz.

Of course I waited device to cool down completely.

So this is kinda bugged, what is your suggestion?

Thank you for this kernel!
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] xzr467706992:
Another guy says it works lol
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] vuckovic_stefan:
Yes, it works for volume (headphones/earphones) it produces much louder sound , couldn't increase more than +2 with Viper4android :)

For speaker it doesn't

Mic I don't have a clue, never touched

Please look into this intelithermal frequency stucking :)

Thank you!
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Ghost52367:
The loud speaker one doesn't. But it's one awesome kernel. I'm getting mostly around 6 hours sot.
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] amiransari2:
Tell me best setting for the gaming

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Link for the kernel plz
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Mattia46old:
https://xdaforums.com/zuk-z2-pro/de...-kernel-gpu-oc-zen-f2fs-t3661822/post76272129

Works only on 04/16 build
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] knigam:
It doesn't work for me either. You previously ignored me when I reported this!
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] vuckovic_stefan:
Take it easy bro. Dev doesn't owe you anything. I reported also one issue if he can/want he will fix it, if not no one should have problem with this. Read XDA rules
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] knigam:
That's why didn't bother him next. But he always replies the same with 'lol', that's annoying.
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Tomatot-:
Could someone share the voltage table from Kernel adiutor for example? I'd like to apply on another ROM/kernel and I don't have the values in mind anymore. Thanks a lot.
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] abhi.goel:
there you go..
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Tomatot-:
Thanks a lot!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Voidity:
Hi all.

I'm asking this question because a friend of mine told me that he knows someone who could crack and unlock pretty much any phone's anything, for a price.

Just the other day, my friend took back his phone from another person (why he took it back is another story) who had been using that phone of his. So obviously before my friend could use it he'd need to factory-reset it. But at the last step the phone asked him for the email password of the previous user, the person he took the phone back from. Instead of contacting that person, he sent his phone to the... well, hacker. Then the next day he went to take it back and it was unlocked already! He paid about 40 dollars for it.

How?! O.o

He also told me the hacker could even crack or bypass iPhone X's lock screen, but that would cost about 500 dollars. For Note 8's lock screen, he said he could do it with his eyes closed.

So what is all this?? Is all this possible?

And Knox? Is there really some way to crack Knox?

Please enlighten me. Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] winol:
About knox, there is no way to reset it once tripped, because it is a fuse, (an e-fuse), I know

that cracking the lock screen can be done, but it involves resetting the phone
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Voidity:
The topic question is about NOT tripping Knox while cracking it. Whether there is such a way, or tool. Because I was told by someone that someone else could do it.

Cracking the lock screen can be done but involves resetting phone? Reset how?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Limeybastard:
Love stories when it's pertaining to someone knew someone that could or did something. My neighbors friends daughters step dad's uncle Ron, reckons he can hack any phone including bypassing Knox.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Voidity:
I'm not saying I believe it. That's why I'm asking here. I wouldn't have if I believed. At least explain how he cracked the FRP.

So I'm taking your response as "no, Knox can't be hacked".

Next person.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] winol:
Knox is made as it is for this exactly purpose, you can get through it, yes, but leaves the trace 0x1, which means someone tampered with it, so the owner(individuals or corporations) can know for sure it has been compromised, and take the adecuate meassures about it, as for unlocking a device without the propper passwords or biometrics, that is something that can be done, but nobody even knowing how-to do it, will teach you how to do it here, as it could provide a way for potentially illegal practices, and try not to be so adammant in yor post
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Voidity:
Lol and I'm not even asking to be taught how to do it. I'm only asking to know whether there is or isn't such a way (or ways). That would already be satisfying. Because right now something that I trust a lot (Knox) is, apparently, crackable. I of course wouldn't believe what I was told so easily, and so I'm here.

What I'm saying is that I understand pretty well how Knox works, and I know what I'm looking for. I'm just here requesting input from anyone who might know a bit about this topic, and I thank anyone who responds.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] winol:
Well, you got the answer, no, there is no way to crack it without showing 0x1, that's it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Voidity:
Yes, I want to believe "no" as well. And that's what I'd believe for now. I also personally do not think it's possible. But considering it was coming from someone who cracked the FRP....... That was what made me to make the effort to start this thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sefrcoko:
OP, you've raised a few different issues here...password unlocking and Knox...

Knox can't be reversed once tripped, period. Fuse-based or something similar to that anyways, no way to undo that.

Breaking lockscreen passwords in another matter entirely...I'm sure you could Google that but I don't think it's appropriate for discussion here.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Voidity:
I understand tripped Knox can't be reversed. I know. And if a hack attempt trips it, then the hack has failed. But my question here is whether it's at all possible (even theoretically) to crack Knox without tripping it.

Yes. Lockscreen can be bypassed or broken. But what about FRP? My friend's phone's FRP has just been broken. Hmm...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] winol:
Discussions about knox have been around in xda for years, no, there is no way around it, never have been, I doubt there will ever be, as it would render samsung pay as not trustworthy, that is why tje e-fuse is a physical security flag
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sefrcoko:
Ok I understand now... Anything is possible in theory I suppose, but if anyone ever cracked enterprise-grade security like Knox it would essentially render it useless for all (because it could no longer be considered secure). Samsung has millions of dollars, if not more, riding on preventing exactly that. No one has cracked it yet, and it has only become more secure over time...so I doubt they ever will.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Voidity:
Thanks. The ways both of you put it make lots of sense. I'm regaining my confidence. After all, Knox is something that has gained the approval of many governments and organizations around the world and is declared fit for government work.

Then again, I learned that the Snapdragon Note 8 could be rooted without tripping Knox right? (Is this still the case?) Does this mean anything in terms of Knox security? (Mine is an Exynos by the way, and AFAIK Exynos Note 8 doesn't have this issue.)

Lastly, well... this concern isn't exclusive to Knox because any security system may have yet-to-be-discovered potential exploitable flaws, but Knox also has its share of flaws in the past, such as http://www.wired.co.uk/article/samsung-knox-security-vulnerabilities. I guess we can't really do anything about this individually.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sefrcoko:
Most of the Note 8 Snapdragon variants have a locked bootloader, so the root method is different there and do not affect Knox as far as I know. Other differences though, like not being able to charge past 80%, etc. Exynos bootloaders are not locked and use the standard root methods.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] smokeyb4201:
Hello all i think i have managed to turn off the samsung secure boot. i can write to the recovery without blowing the bootloader fuse i tried write the s8 snapdragon twrp to my recovery in past always just getting secure boot fuse blown resulting in having to odin

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back to samfail v3. Somehow this time all i get is a screen saying please take phone to att authorized retailer we knoticed you have unauthorized software on recovery. I reboot phone boots back into the pre rooted stock rom samfail v3. My knox is not tripped i also can do full back up and restore on flashfire pro no problems all partitions i was to afraid do bootloader partitions but can all the other protected ones modem efs ect. Am i losing my mind or is something going on here i have the full backups 6 gig worth saved so if so maybe someone more qualified can look at it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] smokeyb4201:
Cash that i odin it back samfail v3 if only that easy
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ultramag69:
Just throwing in my 2 cents...

I believe there is a hack whereby the kernel is replaced when rooted. This will show that KNOX Warranty void is 0x0...

In reality KNOX has been triggered and Samsung pay won't work but the bootloader screen does say that KNOX hasn't been tampered with. Flashing a stock rom with ODIIN will reveal this trick however...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Voidity:
What I meant was if rooting could be done undetected by Knox, essentially does that mean Knox has... failed?

All this is beyond me as I don't have knowledge of those inner workings of them. :confused:

One of Knox's primary jobs is to monitor and protect the kernel, no?

I guess if in reality Knox has still been tripped then Knox has done its job...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] smokeyb4201:
No I have a Knox checker it says Knox is valid and see linux is in permissive. I'm on a att n950U but my stock recovery is for a n950X but I can load it and be rooted . I assume all v3 samfails are same.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] winol:
Do your secure folder and samsung pay work? Or is it only a cosmetic appearance?, maybe I am not getting your post right
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] smokeyb4201:
My secure folder works fine

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Not sure about pay I always uninstalled it I don't trust my info on rooted phone anyway lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sefrcoko:
I don't think so, because the Snapdragon bootloaders are still locked even when rooted. I think that's why Knox isn't triggered, unlike Exynos where you can flash custom recovery which triggers Knox. I'm not an expert though :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Alek7:
Exactly, Knox will be immediately tripped then a modification of the boot partition is made (for TWRP installation for example)

Since the bootloader is locked on US variants, you should'nt be able to trig the Knox counter "easily" like on the others variants, because you can't modify the boot partition
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] me2151:
FRP is easily bypassed without tripping knox. Im not going into details because of legal issues but all you need is a special firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Voidity:
Well then... What does this mean in terms of security provided by Knox?? Would this, and everything that this could lead to, compromise whatever Knox is trying to protect?

I'm pretty confused since I have no knowledge of how all this works. :confused:

Yea. I realized that FRP could be bypassed after I did some quick googling. For me I think the steps are pretty troublesome.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bbbobbbo:
Congratulations to the OP, now this is a very good thread as many would like to be reassured Samsung and Google have put all their efforts into combating theft crime.

I have had phones stolen in the past, and now I have a Note 8 running Oreo, with biometrics and password protected (kind of paranoid, but hey, been there before), and I would like to be absolutely sure that a potential thief will be left with only a brick, so they'd be discouraged to steal in the future.

Now, with all that FRP bypassing, I'm not so sure anymore...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] winol:
Some here are getting somthings wrong, every safety meassure can be cracked, (at least for common devices) the important thing is in reality is, that the user or owner can be aware that the system has been tampered or compromised
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ultramag69:
I think there is some confusion here as to what is going on...

Yes the lock screen and google accounts can be bypassed and reset, however this means that the phone will need to be set back to factory and have data partition formatted...

As for Knox, that's a whole different kettle of fish...

If you wish to bypass Knox by rooting the phone you will find it impossible to access the secure folder as that is encrypted so anything in there is safe as it won't be retrievable.

Yes you can fool the phone into thinking it doesn't have Knox tripped (this will also show Knox Warranty Void 0x0 on the bootloader) but this requires a custom kernel with the hack thus needing a data wipe after reset and is only a cosmetic thing...

The least secure part of your storage is the external sd card. If you use encryption on this then you won't be able to retrieve it if the phone is reset but then again if the phone is stolen and you lock it with your google account nothing will be handed over to a 3rd party either...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Casper Young:
Whenevr you do something to the device such as Root or install a custom ROM you're bound to trip Knox. However there is a way to reset it. Use a Knox cleaner that is specific for the device.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] wishinew:
sorry not picking on you..just picked your reply as a general response starting place..

Ok..Knox can totally be tripped and reversed.. I've seen it done with my own eyes..Case #1.. rent- a center phone.. recently i bought a bunch of good wills bag or phone deals in Utah and i have in front of me some top end phones that are locked.. it just so happens one turned out to be from my area(i travel to buy lol)

Anyways i TRAVEL TO THE LOCAL RENTA CANTER AND ASK THEM ABOUT THE PHONE.. they Demanded I return it and called the police when I refused.. Mind you I've all ready been messing with the phone to see what i could do my self before showing up to the store.

Well, when the police arrive they demand the phone and hand it over and they're acting like I stole it until I produce receipts for them and that one.. the call the store in Utah and it just so happens to be the main one with the local big wigs in their offices for that state.. and they confirm that I indeed did buy them..

The police then ASK ME what I'm trying to accomplish and so I show them the lock and said since I bought it legally that they should remove their software.. and the police agreed and asked the manager to have it removed.. manager left for a second and returned with a little rectangular box and placed the phone on it and plugged in a usb to the phone and the computer and typed for about a minute and the phone went in to reset..top said knox tripped ..fuse something and fuse something.. frp lock went from locked to unlocked.. and it reset into download mode.. and it did something and said when it reset "are you sure you want to uninstall KNOX CLOUD SECURITY" he hit a key.. phone did something shut off and came back on and said welcome to team mobile.. setup.. no google setup....

So I got to digging and ran across the web site for know and MDM install and implatashion.. and it had all sorts of how to remove ..remote..know this and that.. still reading it.. id link it ..but only if an admin says its ok.. maybe it's new maybe its not.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Whiteninja73:
It is possible. I flashed the Xcover pro with knox lock to att. No knox enrollment and everything still working as normal.

The trick is to get it in Odin mode.

You have to trick the phone when it’s loading the knox enrollment and take the battery out because it’s set to keep you from entering boot mode.

It’s actually really easy.