yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] tnthd2:
Since you mentioned OIS, what does OIS do to make the sensor output better, specifically texture and noise quality? If you don't know, it does exactly jack squat nothing to the sensor. It helps with the whole package, but that doesn't make people like it more than the Pixel 2.

And the Xiaomi 5s is not a failure, at least in terms of camera quality. The least you could do when trying to argue against it is to look up review results for yourself. Look at the comparison tool at GSMarena for the 5s in stereo mode compared to any other phone cam, instead of talking about something you know nothing about. People make the results and tools available and you don't even bother to look at. Sad!

Why people make unsubstantiated claims about something they don't understand or even try to learn about? Opinions can always be different, but at least have some informed opinion.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Lol you're one to talk. You don't think OIS effects low light photos? Interesting. You should do some reading. Noise levels in low light are highly related to OIS.

It is ranked about the same as essential phone by most reviewers.

If you're going to call me out, at least be right
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] tnthd2:
Absolutely not. OIS reduces vibration from your hands to help getting sharper images. Same exposure parameters with or without OIS give exactly the same noise level. It does nothing to help noise from sensor. If you think it does, explain or cite how it does.

The effectiveness of OIS on smartphones is dubious at best due to the very short focal length on most phones. If it's really effective, those gimbals wouldn't be in high demand or that expensive. But this is another matter unrelated to the photo quality of sensor output.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
"If your camera meters the need for a slow shutter speed which will cause camera shake, there are two ways to switch to a faster shutter speed:

1. Open up the aperture. Opening up the aperture (makes the hole bigger and therefore) allows more light to come in and so reduces the time the shutter needs to stay open. ["Shutter speed" is simply the time the camera keeps the shutter open.]

2. Often, especially in low-light situations, this will not even give you a fast enough shutter speed to hand hold the camera, so the second way is to use a higher ISO."

"At this slow shutter speed and without using a tripod, we will obtain a blurred image if we hand hold the camera. But, with Image Stabilization, we are now able to hand hold the camera without worrying about camera shake (1/15 sec. is 2 stops slower than 1/60 sec.).

If the light level falls further and the camera now needs an even slower shutter speed, say of 1/4 sec. (that's 4 stops slower than 1/60 sec.: 1/60 sec., 1/30 sec., 1/15 sec., 1/8 sec., 1/4 sec.), Image Stabilization will not help us eliminate camera shake in this case. It will, however, reduce its effect.

Note that IS works irrespective of the ISO used. Whereas High ISO forces you to use a high ISO (with resulting high noise and image degradation issues *1), IS allows you to keep at a low ISO while still reducing camera shake (thus keeping maximum image quality). That is, it does not mess with your selected exposure settings (you keep the shutter speed, aperture and ISO you want to use)"
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] tnthd2:
Hmm, that's a lot of quote, but not sure how much you understand or believe in all that. How do you adjust any of those settings with any (except one) cam app?

Whatever exposure setting you take a picture at with OIS on, I can take another picture at the same setting with OIS off. The noise level will be exactly the same. There might be a difference in sharpness, but how much difference will depend on how firm I can hold the camera or if I use an external stabilization device or not.

Like I've said, it helps with the whole package, but it doesn't explain how the G6 get higher noise score than the Pixel 2 which also has OIS. It's all in the software.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] gk1984:
What that user was trying to convey is OIS let's you use a slower shutter with less motion blur due to camera shake. Slower shutter equals lower ISO, which likely results in less noise. This doesn't help for moving subjects though.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] tnthd2:
That's the theory. Slower shutter speed *requires* lower ISO for the same lighting level, since the aperture is fixed. But in practice, I wouldn't give it up like that, but rather try to brace myself to reduce vibration or just use a stabilization device/tripod so I can shoot at the same exposure setting and get the same acceptable noise level.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_head:
I think you have it backwards.

A slow shutter allows you to use a low ISO.

A fast shutter requires a high ISO.

This assumes shutter an not aperture priority.

Also 1/focal length is the minimum shutter speed to not have noticeable shake at correct lighting.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Ibanez33:
I feel like this has gone a tad off topic. Not to say its completely irrelevant but I feel the starting point is, us comparing both the Ph1's and the P20 implementation to know whats different.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
I don't how discussion about OIS would be off topic since the discussion is whether or not that could directly effect the output causing one to take better pics, which is exactly the original question was, but ok.

P20 - The Huawei P20 RGB sensor is a 12-megapixels with an f/1.8 aperture and large 1.5µm pixels. The monochrome side has a 20-megapixel f/1.6 camera. These camera work in unison a lot of the time. There's also a 24-megapixel front facing camera with f/2.0 aperture.

Essential phone - Dual 13MP RGB + Monochrome, f/1.9

As you can see, hardly the same at all, which alone would make a vast difference.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Ibanez33:
Well the discussion is about if the app's processing of a monochrome and colour image would offer any improvement to the standard app on the essential phone. Since we can't add OIS it doesn't really aid the topic in question. Does the p20 have a better camera well sure it does and don't think anyone is disputing that. However that doesn't mean the app can't improve things for the essential phone.

For example say you have 2 cars one has a clearly more powerful engine than the other but the standard tyres appear to be a lot better than the slower one. A better tyre would improve the slower car the engine doesnt factor into it.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Then the argument is ridiculous as a whole.

" Perhaps they figured out how better to "utilize" the monochrome camera much better than the devs at Essential? "

How could you factor out everything else to possibly say anything about the monochrome camera only?

You can't possibly separate every other factor considering they all combine to make the output better. There is absolutely no way you can gather any idea/info otherwise from one singular variable unless you have a way to remove the influence of the others.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Ibanez33:
Yes. Take a look at what the Google photos app does with only the colour sensor.

Its not factoring out everything else, it's looking at the options we have. So is listing options we cant change, some how a more coherent and productive discussion?

The app from essential was and still is terrible so yeah I think there's a good chance that someone else did it better.

I still fell like your seeing this as "making this camera as good as the P20"

When it's really just about improving what we have.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] tnthd2:
So far Essential appears to have not used the two cameras at the same time in any mode at all, so they can certainly improve their app by simply living up to their initial design/promise.

They also have a lot to improve with HDR. Atm, they only consider HDR as a tool to help in high contrast situation. They should look at Google's ZSL as a tool to combine multiple exposures from a single sensor to increase DR - just like combining outputs from two cameras. I'm sure their software engineers already have had Gcam mods installed, as well as looking at other implementations and know what they could do, but apparently couldn't yet. Their level of computational photography still has a ways to go, which is quite disappointing considering the impressive background of their lead camera designer.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
No what I'm saying is why bring p20 into the discussion at all?

If we want to talk about how they could improve it in general then yes I'm cool with that but it's an entirely different topic from the op.
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] Ayan Uchiha Choudhury:
Hellow guys, i have an hP laptop with 16 gigs of ram and enough hdd space. also i am running xubuntu 16.04 where i was previously able to compile custom roms. however recently my hard drive had crashed and i had to recover using easeUS. then i formatted it to exFat. Xubuntu as such is giving me write operations on exFat devices. my problem is now whenever am using repo sync a custom rom source it gives error like

ayan@Itachi:/media/ayan/Ayan/Mobile/mo/pixel$ repo init -u https://github.com/PixelExperience/manifest -b oreo-mr1
Get https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo/clone.bundle
Get https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo
remote: Finding sources: 100% (5/5)
remote: Total 5 (delta 0), reused 5 (delta 0)
Unpacking objects: 100% (5/5), done.
From https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo
cf7c083..0f2e45a master -> origin/master
Get https://github.com/PixelExperience/manifest
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/media/ayan/Ayan/Mobile/mo/pixel/.repo/repo/main.py", line 531, in <module>
_Main(sys.argv[1:])
File "/media/ayan/Ayan/Mobile/mo/pixel/.repo/repo/main.py", line 507, in _Main
result = repo._Run(argv) or 0
File "/media/ayan/Ayan/Mobile/mo/pixel/.repo/repo/main.py", line 180, in _Run
result = cmd.Execute(copts, cargs)
File "/media/ayan/Ayan/Mobile/mo/pixel/.repo/repo/subcmds/init.py", line 399, in Execute
self._SyncManifest(opt)
File "/media/ayan/Ayan/Mobile/mo/pixel/.repo/repo/subcmds/init.py", line 171, in _SyncManifest
m._InitGitDir(mirror_git=mirrored_manifest_git)
File "/media/ayan/Ayan/Mobile/mo/pixel/.repo/repo/project.py", line 2292, in _InitGitDir
self._UpdateHooks()
File "/media/ayan/Ayan/Mobile/mo/pixel/.repo/repo/project.py", line 2312, in _UpdateHooks
self._InitHooks()
File "/media/ayan/Ayan/Mobile/mo/pixel/.repo/repo/project.py", line 2341, in _InitHooks
os.symlink(os.path.relpath(stock_hook, os.path.dirname(dst)), dst)
OSError: [Errno 38] Function not implemented
ayan@Itachi:/media/ayan/Ayan/Mobile/mo/pixel$

any help would be recommended and appreciated
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] rajatgupta1998:
Wrong place to ask but yeah, have you installed the latest version of repo and python2 ?

Or before that try `rm -rf .repo` and then init again.

Android Building queries can be discussed here:

https://xdaforums.com/chef-central/android/guide-android-rom-development-t2814763
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] Ayan Uchiha Choudhury:
Yes yes I did both. I also created a new directory and tried repo init. But still
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] SchafferWang:
emmm....

Have you found anything to solution ?
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] Ayan Uchiha Choudhury:
Exfat was the problem. Formatted to NTFS to fix it
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mrmrmrmr:
Hi,

I was using wm6 sdk with Visual Studio 2005 to develop small apps for my needs.

I just want to try my chance with VS 2008 so I uninstalled VS 2005 and installed VS 2008

However, now if I try to install WM6 sdk, it requires VS 2005.

What is the solution for this ?

Is there a seperate WM6 sdk for VS 2008 ?

Btw, do I need to install any other SDKs (.NET Compact framework 3.5 ?) to work with VS 2008 ?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Exitao:
Isn't it part of 2008? Maybe need only the refresh?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mrmrmrmr:
what is refresh ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rhapsody:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...3A-A651-4745-88EF-3D48091A390B&displaylang=en

(refresh download)

It says:

System Requirements

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005, Standard Edition or above (Express Editions are not supported). SP1 and SP1 Update for Windows Vista required.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] drzip:
Simple Fix?

For the WM6 SDK, you need VS 2005 or better yet VS 2008, the reason it' not working for you is probably because you've installed the Express Edition of VS. You need either Standard or Professional edition of VS to use WM6 SDK. It took me forever to figure out this little snag of a detail. Hope this is your fix!

~DrZip

P.S. You also need to install .net framework 3.5.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaseyoooo:
Hi all,

I did backup via LG BRIDGE. How can I just get back my WhatsApp message to my new Samsung S9+ ? I can't extract from backup file (.lbf). :confused:

p.s. my V10 has been broken...

Thanks all!

Kasey
[Nokia 6 Questions & Answers] Khalidskhoso:
Is it possible to change fonts like Samsung phones without root??
[Nokia 6 Questions & Answers] sltushar:
Yes, you can, if u r 8.0 or 8.1 then use substratum and andromeda, to change ur font without root
[Nokia 6 Questions & Answers] BladeRunnerA2C:
Clear me out,

I don't wanna void my warranty on my Nokia 5, 6.

Will performing ADB Commands void my warranty?
[Nokia 6 Questions & Answers] sltushar:
See andromeda is paid and you can use it without root, so you could be able to do that with andromeda and substratum
[Nokia 6 Questions & Answers] Awk8693:
Want to know font change process

Hi ,

Can you guys please tell me step by step of font changing?
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] kevinm2738:
I tried to reload the stock rom on my phone, and lost my IMEI number. After loading Validus ROM on my phone, I was able to retrieve my IMEI number, but I cannot connect to 4G networks. I tried going into the bootloader and running the following commands:

fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
fastboot flash fsg fsg.mbn

But I still cannot connect to 4G networks. Any suggestions?

UPDATE: I flash my phone with Validus 8.1 1.3 BETA, and then booted the phone. It was on 3G. I then rebooted into the bootloader, and ran the modem flashing commands that I did above. I then popped out the SIM card, and booted the phone.

I went into Settings > About Phone > Phone Status > SIM status, and watched the status as I put back in the SIM. I noticed the "Mobile Network Type" turned to LTE for a few seconds, and then went back to CDMA.

Does this give anyone any ideas? I thought this could have been a modem firmware issue, but as you can see above I've been flashing the modem firmware with the latest firmware from the Stock, so I'm not sure what this could mean.

UPDATE2: I noticed that when I am booted into Bootloader, my baseband version is M8953_27.36.07.41u SANDERS_NA_CUST. However, when I am booted into a custom ROM that has 3G working, the baseband is M8953_27.36.07.41e

Could this have anything to do with my issues? I have an XT1806 and tried to flash the stock ROM SANDERS_NPSS26.116-61-5_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] cerobles1:
I had a similar issue with my moto X pure Edition. Everytime I would flash stock rom, I would lose Wifi. I my fix for that issue was to flash stock rom, let it boot up to the welcome screen, turn off the phone like completely off, boot to bootloader and use the commands in this order:

Erase modem1

Erase modem2

Flash Moden NON...

Flash fsg

Use the commands u have up there on first post, but use the order I posted.

Try that and see if that works.
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] kevinm2738:
This did not work for me, sadly. I think I need the backup of someones EFS partition. Does anyone have one for me?

Please let me know.
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] chromeatkobo:
I flashed stock ROM SANDERS_NPSS26.116-61-8_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml, and am now having similar issues. Netowork data shows 'H' instead of 4G LTE. Changing the APN and changing stuff under *#*#4635#*#* does nothing either. I have an XT1806 and my baseband in both fastboot and the settings is M8953_27.36.07.41e. Please help!
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] lufusol:
^Me too.

I have never had this phone working faster than 3G. Which has been a major bummer. I pre-ordered the sanders XT1806 64gb p5 and received it in October 2017. The day it arrived, I booted it without any SIM and saw the stock ROM had around 50 preloaded apps, so I blasted it away and installed Lineage 15. I didn't think to put the SIM in and test connection speeds on the stock ROM. I just went straight to using Lineage 15.

Because of camera issues I switched to Validus Nougat, and shortly after the official Oreo update was released and the camera blobs for it became available, I upgraded to Validus Oreo and ran several versions of that up to the final one. I tried switching providers from Straight Talk (Verizon flavor) to Verizon Prepaid Wireless because I was paranoid that I had a bad SIM or that they were purposely capping me. It made no difference. I just loaded Lineage Pie on it and am once again connected at 3G mobile data speeds.

Just like Kevin observed, it looks like it tries to negotiate for LTE but fails and drops back to CDMA.

My baseband in both bootloader and settings shows as M8953_27.36.07.40R

Any ideas?? I've been using this phone for almost a year and a half now and haven't enjoyed high speed data yet. Would love a fix...
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] pizzaboy192:
You flashed the wrong firmware.

Try https://drive.google.com/open?id=161Z95p4Ss16xgzvAix5O2kxCktY-LwCM which is XT1806 firmware. Then reflash.

You might also want to flash the RETUS nougat firmware and then update to Oreo. I have that too.
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] marcdw:
[MENTION=8250686]lufusol[/MENTION], I didn't see any mention of Kevin's carrier in his post. For your case I did some checking here and there.

Motorola's carrier compatibility chart only shows partial support for Straight Talk. Verizon proper has full support. Not sure about the prepaid service.

The site below also shows only partial but does include a bunch of APNs to use/try.

https://apn.gishan.net/en/apn/straight-talk/motorola-moto-g5s-plus

FrequencyCheck shows supported bands along with an animated percentage graph (100% for supported bands). But, if I'm reading things correctly GSM & CDMA is only up to 3G or 3.5G(4G).

https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...te-na-64gb-xt1806/straight-talk-united-states

If I were to go by the above then technically there isn't a problem with the phone but I don't know. Only others with the XT1806 on that carrier can confirm the limitations.

Moto G5S Plus XT1806, balanceOS 2.0, MultiROM, XDA Legacy
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] marcdw:
[MENTION=8250686]lufusol[/MENTION], ugh, neither of my XDA apps would allow me to add a pic to my previous message or a new one. Resort to using the web.

The bands supported by the XT1806 (from GSMArena) should be compared to the bands used by Straight Talk. Maybe to see if you're not getting what you should or getting all that you can.
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] lufusol:
Update: I reflashed stock nougat 7.1.1, rerooted, fixed permissions on /persist, that got 4G/LTE working again. Then I reflashed PE 9 and 4G/LTE remained working. Haven't tried another custom Oreo or Pie ROM since the fix, but PE Pie isn't exactly running flawlessly (it's like the fp reader doesn't exist, and Bluetooth audio keeps "buffering") so I plan to try lineage pie and maybe even go back to Validus Oreo final and see if I can retain LTE functionality while fixing those issues (sure would be nice to see Validus Pie, but doesn't look to be in the works, even GZOSP Pie seems to have been abandoned)

Anyway, fixing persist permissions while on the stock ROM was the solution for me
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] marcdw:
[MENTION=8250686]lufusol[/MENTION], GZOSP Pie build was released a couple of days ago so not abandoned I guess. ?

ZTE Axon 7 A2017U, Project New World, Multiboot, XDA Legacy
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] lufusol:
This is now off topic but I'll respond why I said what I did:

The official GZR all-in-one ROMs thread here at XDA has a link (to AFH) containing 4 GZOSP Pie builds for Sanders, released from mid September through early October 2018. No updates since, and no Validus (Pie) builds in sight.

You're right, of course, they just need to update their thread and afh uploads. I went to their official Google+ page and found this:

Syed Sajid

Ground Zero Roms

Jan 22, 2019

New Validus Pie Beta v3.0 Official build for Sanders(Moto G5S Plus).

- Android-9.0.0_r30

- Jan Patch

- Latest Validus Sources

- Updated Blobs to pie

- update media codecs and profiles from deen PPK29.68-16-8

- uprev to health@2.0 hal.

- gps: Increase batch size to max

- update camera blobs from stock OPSS28.65-36-6

- update sensors blobs from LA.UM.7.6.r1-03700-89xx.0

- update GPS blobs from LA.UM.7.6.r1-03700-89xx.0

- update AptX blobs from LA.UM.7.6.r1-02500-89xx.0

NOTE: its beta build

Link: https://sourceforge.net/projects/sa....Beta.3.0-OFFICIAL-20190122-0743.zip/download

Party on! I love me some Validus. Will try it ASAP. Lol
[Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers] marcdw:
Ah yes. With each ROM announcement post there are different download locations I noticed. The ever-important OP hasn't been maintained. [emoji53]
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Supersonic27543:
Hi, how many people has tried downgrading to 5.6.0.0 from 5.6.0.1 in Fire HD 8 (2017)? [MENTION=5063211]unforsaken[/MENTION] already told that it was possible, but, just for the peace of mind of mine and many other people with no devices except this, I would like some people with other devices (and have an Amazon support center nearby to return the device) confirming that! ;) You can find the links for the .BIN of 5.6.0.0 in unforsaken's thread in this forum.

Thanks, and good luck with downgrading!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] unforsaken:
I bear witness and testimony.

I have successfully downgraded from 5.6.0.1 to 5.6.0.0 like I mentioned here. My only advice is, if you are too scared to try, please don't. Patience and time could bring better results regarding a working exploit for 5.6.0.1.

:)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Themes, Apps, and Mods] tnc68:
Hi

I have an S8 and have installed the black graffiti theme from the samsung store, in order to set the system menus to a look I am happy with. This is a black/white/grey colour scheme.

It works well enough, but the colours on the sliders in the system settings are bright (white) when set to "off" and grey when set to "on". I would like to have them coloured the other way.

What is the best way to modify this? I don't really want to trawl through all the themes on line.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Efeler_Gibi:
Use substratum.
[Google Pixel XL Accessories] williamskott:
I use the orginial pixel xl, i wanna ask, is there anybody use moment lens?

Im looking to who want to sell moment lens? Include or not the photocase, and wanna deliver it to my country,,, thank u
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] kimLJT:
anyone knows what are these? were installed (without my knowledge) last april 11. was shocked as theres a lot of these exists about 200+. i tried to uninstall but it wont be gone. im a bit worried with these weirds installed apps. anybody help me please.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] GaryTan:
did u install any theme ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] silegeek:
env relates to theme stuff I believe, so is possibly to do with that
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] kimLJT:
a few only around 2 or 3. but these apps are a lot really but is it really normal?