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[Shift General] Pfeffa-rah:
Hi,

I had no hibernate problems with my shift also none after SP1.

I did have to reinstall Shagctr (vista commanager) and that fixed the sound too.

Also I removerd Origami after my second boot. It is useless anyway...

greetz,

Pfeffa-rah
[Shift General] herpi:
No hibernate problems on loader or using "balanced"?

Now, first: I am not a technical guy like you guys but ...

--I have the idea that it always hibernates and resumes correctly when on the battery charger.

On battery only:

--That it hibernates/resumes correctly when setting the battery powerplan to "balanced"

--That it always hibernates wrong when the powerplan is set to "power saver"

So somewhere the Power Saver settings are causing the problem?

I will keep testing. It's a boaring Easter anyway.

PLs could you guys check if that is also the case in your situtation?

Huib
[Shift General] koala996:
can you check with the advanced settings of the power saver mode to see which one leads to the issue?
[Shift General] sonietje:
I think this could be the cause. I changed the powerplan from 'power saver' to 'balanced' this morning. Since then I didn't have any problems putting my Shift in sleep or hibernate mode. I will continue testing it and keep you informed. But there is hope ...
[Shift General] koala996:
look at the advanced settings in both mode to see what is different please,

it could help us to see what can lead to an issue and what won't.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
When I turn off the device It is rellay suspended ( I configured it in this way). But after some time the devices goes hibernate and this change is done in low power consuption so the problem arrises......
[Shift General] sonietje:
I checked the advanced settings in the 3 powerplans and included the results in attached pdf file. My first conclusion is that it is caused by the powersave mode of the wireless adapter but I still need to check this more in depth. I keep you posted.
[Shift General] koala996:
nice job man !! I think that the first page is the most interesting.

USB and WIFI could be the reason .. If we can be sure about the option, we could keep the power saving mode :)
[Shift General] sonietje:
Vista suspend problems solved!

I think I found the cause of the suspend problems. I have been testing it for hours now. No matter which powerplan you select if you change the wireless adapter setting to 'maximum performance' in the advanced settings of the powerplan there are no suspend problems anymore.

Could other people also try this to confirm that this is the only cause of the problem?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I ve changed it right now and I am going to test your solution....;)
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Hi Daniel,

did it work? And did it also solve your problems with with the 3g connection?

Maybe this is a stupid question, but I am a newbie waiting for his Shift, being prepared for all sorts of surprises.

S.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I am testing it right now. 3g continues disconnections only happens when device isnt connected to power(and not always). I am trying to find solution to avoid it....:confused:
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Problem solved

Well. I ve been doing many tests and changes and I thing the sd, suspend crashes and 3g closed connections are gone.

I use equilibrated energy plan but I hadnt any issue when ac connected so I ve modified this plan to make equivalent the behabiour when not ac connected, but not sucess. The problems are still there. Its incredible because the configuration for ac connected/disconnected is the same :confused: I ve modified all the parameteres (usb, expressPCI, , etc)

So I ve set High performance plan and I ve modified it a little bit, only screen brightness when no ac connected and now all works correctly. I start the system (no ac connected). Then I suspend / wake, hibernate/resume the system several times being ac no connected and the problems are gone. 3g connection is very stable. No crashes from standby to hibernate state. No sd missing problem. So by now I will keep in this "High Performance" modified state :)

pd. So It seems that a plan is compounded by customizable parameteres by by the user and hidden parameters):eek:
[Shift General] Settembrini:
3G connection

Hi Daniel,

thanks for the solution. I think lots of people will find it useful. Maybe someone can confirm that it works for him as well.

S.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Finally I had a crash from suspended to hibernated. I left the device turned on. After 10 minutes It went to suspended state. And after 30 minutes It tried to hibernate (This is how I configured it) and It crashed because the system turned on by itself reporting a previous system crash.

So I ve removed SP1 and all works correctly now in all the power modes. I will stay in this way until Microsoft releases officially SP1 (via windows update).

Dani
[Shift General] wu5262:
just to let you know Microsoft has already release sp1 officially through windows update, i click update yesterday and SP1 is there, installed it so far with no problem. Can't say i can see any improvement...device wake up speed is still the same, SD card still can't recognize after wake up.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
When I execute Windows Update there arent updates for me :confused:
[Shift General] koala996:
the updates are not there for everyone... it's location by location ... I don't have it on my computer .. but there are a crack ;) .. search for VISTA SP1 RC2 patch .. and you'll find how to get it .. simple and clean !
[Shift General] michael85:
That's the release canidate version and not RTM (Ready to manufacturing)

The official version is downloadable on the Microsoft site :)
[Shift General] Settembrini:
no automatic suspending or hibernating

Hi,

whatever I do, my shift doesn't automatically (after 10 minutes) go into one of the sleeping modes.

Turned of wifi, turned of Kaspersky, changed powerplans...

Nothing happens! - the thing is an insomniac!

Similiar experiences? Tipps and tricks?

Thanks!

S.
[Shift General] pitt1983:
i've eliminated the ibernate files and "program" that takes a 1gb of hdd memory.

using only suspension mode. it works fine with sp1 (in italy i can install only RTM) but work ok.

i've the only problem that when i left suspend time the sd card come to be recognised like i insert it the first time( my english is orrible....)

and sometimes the wifi card don't go. i must take off from comm manager and retake on.

but for the rest all work fine.
[Shift General] Settembrini:
no sleep no hibernate

Hi,

what to do? Can’t go into „sleep“ or „hibernate“. By chance – Vista sort of told me – I found out that it might be the “HTC HID Pen Driver, htcpen.sys” that causes the problem. My driver version is: 1.1.0.0

I guess everyone has got the same version.

Any ideas what I can do?

Thanks!

S.
[Shift General] koala996:
the RC2 is the RTM .. there have been no new build.. it was a big surprise.. but the RC2 is good.. and that's why it became RTM.

Release Candidate.. mean that it can turn to be RTM.. and that's what happens to the RC2 :)
[Shift General] Settembrini:
real problem

Hi,

what to do? Can’t go into „sleep“ or „hibernate“.

By chance – Vista sort of told me – I found out that it might be the “HTC HID Pen Driver, htcpen.sys” that causes the problem. My driver version is: 1.1.0.0. I guess everyone has got the same version.

In the mean time I deactivated the driver, but no success. So, do I have to uninstall it to find out, if it works? And how can I reinstall the driver?

Any ideas what I can do?

Thanks!

S.
[Shift General] koala996:
look at the post up there from pitt1983 .. maybe it will help
[Shift General] Settembrini:
look at the post up there from pitt1983 .. maybe it will help

No, that solutions doesn't appeal to me. No hibernation.

Isn't there anyone who really knows a thing or two about this. And can you have a look if you have the same error message. In German it is like this:

(Systemsteuerung/Leistungsinformationen und –tools/ Weitere Tools) There is a yellow sign and the information „Einige Treiber behindern den Wechsel von Windows in den Energiesparmodus.“ Wenn ich auf die Meldung klicke, bekomme ich diese Angabe: HTC HID Pen Driver, htcpen.sys.

I don't know the expressions in English is something like this:

(control / Performance Information / More Tools) There is the yellow sign and next to it the information "Some drivers stop Windows going into sleep or suspend) Clicking on the message I get: HTC HID Pen Driver, htcpen.sys.

My driver version is: 1.1.0.0. I guess everyone has got the same version.

In the mean time I deactivated the driver, but no success. So, do I have to uninstall it to find out, if it works? And how can I reinstall the driver?

Any ideas what I can do?

Thanks!

S.
[Shift General] pitt1983:
sorry, can you explain your problem in a semplified english? don't understood so much your problem
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
After updating the HTC Hid Pen device driver via windows update, I have driver version 1.0.0.4, driver date 03/08/2007
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Hi, I did all the windows updating, but it is the 1.1.0.0. version on my Shift. Is it possible to get the newer driver in any way? It might solve my problem.

Is it possible to deinstall the driver and try out if visto goes to sleep without it. An how can I reinstall it after that. Or can it done automatically as I do not know in which folder to look for it.

Thanks

S.
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
1.1.0.0 should be newer then my 1.0.0.4.

What is the date on your version?
[Shift General] jerrry:
Please, I was do a hard reset (factory settings) by Fn+F3 key, I was confirmed (Y) the operation, but now Shift showing me a black screen and don´t react to any keypress or etc. I don´t know how long time Shift needs for finish this operation, but now It is more, than 1,5 hours, when I started the hard reset process. What can I do? May I wait or remove battery and try again?

edit: Fixed. I was removed battery and repeat these steps again, and now, all works ;-) God bless to xda-dev!
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Pantaloonie, you are right 1.1.0. should be newer, the date of my version is 27.1.07

Thanks!
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Hi Pantaloonie,

you tried to help me. Please, let me know if you or someone else has got any idea, what to try.

No suspend or hibernating from the beginning. Here I found a piece of information:

(control panel / performance information and tools / advanced tools)

There on top of the page I find a yellow sign and next to it the information: "Some drivers stop Windows going into suspend or hibernate) Clicking on the message I get this: HTC HID Pen Driver, htcpen.sys.

My driver version is: 1.1.0.0 from 27.01.07. I guess everyone has got the same version.

In the mean time I deactivated the driver, but no success. So, do I have to uninstall it to find out, if it works? And how can I reinstall the driver?

Any other idea?

Thanks, thanks, thanks!

It is like having some little piece of something between your teeth and trying and trying to get it away your tongue gets sore.
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Hi Pantalloonie,

yes, I know, you have not or have you installed SP1 by now?

I did it, hoping to solve my suspend and hibernate problem. No change, but a bunch of new problems. Control Center doesn't really work anymore. 3G driver for marval adapter doesn't show up in the device manager.

Whatever. Have you got any new idea about suspense? Or what could be wrong with shagcontrol? Of course, uninstalled and installed again. Maybe I should start from scrap.

Thanks!

Friedhelm
[Shift General] pitt1983:
sorry but restoring vista?
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
I installed SP1 yesterday, it has broken 'suspend' on my Shift, but hibernate still works, so I can live with that for now. Everything else seems ok, or no worse than before.

You need to re-install shagctrl after installing SP1, you'll find it in C:/Program Files/HTC/Control. It does seem more buggy under SP1, but works most of the time.
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Thanks for all the tips and help.

Finally I started everything again and kept controlling when the suspend / hibernate mode was broken.

Now, it seems that it is the external mouse, which installs a HID driver. Experts! does that make sense? I do not know anything about these hardware matters. But after the installation of the mouse suspend / hibernate did not work any longer.

Now, I am going to instal SP1 again and hope for the best.

Any recommendation of an external mouse that works without damaging anything? Preferably with a small USB stick.

Thanks!

Friedhelm
[Shift General] mw65719:
External Mouse

Friedhelm,

The Shift has bluetooth built in. Why not just use a bluetooth mouse?
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] bk227865:
i send a raw dng to lightroom and only the very center part of the image is properly exposed ?
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] NZtechfreak:
I saw this in several other examples of 40mp shots. Seems inevitable with that many pixels in such a small sensor, likely can be remedied to a reasonable extent in Lightroom or similar. I don't know what people are expecting from 40mp shots here, it's obvious they'll be significantly compromised?
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] enderffx:
Raw is raw, so no preprocessing to remove the vignetting has been done. Create a lens profile in your favourite Raw converter or wait untill someone else did that job.

The raw benefits are there to reap, THANKS Huawei.

Ender
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] bk227865:
This was shot in 10mp mode (or is raw always 40mp ?)

I've locate other raws on the net that has the same effect.

at http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/huawei_p20_pro_review/sample_images/

It's not only that everything becomes darker at the edges, there is also a blue/green color cast.

This would make shooting in raw a real nightmare ?
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] bk227865:
Ok thanks for the reply , i understand that raw is supposed to be unprocessed sensor data , but i never considered that the exposure changes from center to edge of lense would be that bad.

I still hope that it has something to do with the multiple lenses , and maybe the data from one of the lenses is not properly processed in raw.

I had some similar trouble with the super ccd Fujifilm S3 Pro.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] enderffx:
Hi,

no, itj just vignetting, something existing even on $10k lenses, just not as obvious.

Its all good & perfect, if you cannot create a lens profile for yourself, try Automatic or wait until someone in-the-know did so.

Ender
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] vessk0:
Vignetting is strong, but the biggest problem is the severe green tint around the centre and the purple tint in the middle of the image, it takes additional steps to fix this. Fixing vignetting is pretty easy, however, you will just increase the noise.

The problem is the small lens. You have to cover bigger sensor and you need bigger elements for that. Also, the lens is of pretty bad quality, quite soft, especially when you are not looking in the centre of the image.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] otonieru:
I hope people understand what it actually mean to shoot in RAW :silly:
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] bk227865:
Yes i know what raw file's are.

And you can only spot these lens imperfections using the raw file , since they are corrected away in the the processed jpg files.

Hence the title of the topic.

The P20 pro is the first time i'm peeking at raw files on such a tiny sensor/lens device. My other lenses are a bit more uniform across the image, so that surprised me a bit.

Makes me appreciate the auto jpg's on this phone a bit more, they already do a lot of work.

So far i am really in love with the night shot and silky water modes.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] otonieru:
If we are into technical specification, its due to the larger sensor used in P20 Pro, its harder to provide even light/brightness when sensor size used is larger. Corner will have less brightness and sharpness.

Its like trying to cover a square piece of paper area using a bottom of our drinking glass. It will always left corner area uncovered.

This is also happening to most of Full Frame DSLR and Mirrorless professional camera.

We need a bigger (much bigger) honestly to technically fix this flaw. But that will come in cost of portability. And even by then, we still need to think about the light trajectory, because if there are to many light fall outside if sensor area, that would also cost us the image quality

Thats why company choose to use software solution to overcome this. And that what we see in 10MP mode, where the result already processed by the imaging engine. Removing vignette and adding sharpness. Aside from color toning of course.

For me, 40MP and RAW mode is to be used when i know that i gonna use the image professionally and gonna need to tweak it myself later using lightroom or photoshop. (Or even snapseed if am on high mobility)

:)
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] bk227865:
I read something about a quad bayer sensor beeing used.

Is there any benifit in shooting at 10MP in relation to dynamic range ?

I other words is there more going on then just averaging pixels when 10MP mode is used ?

Like documented in the the sony IMX294CJK sensor ?

It uses a Quad Bayer structure, and outputs data binned in 2 × 2 pixel units in normal mode. In HDR mode, integration can be divided into long-time integration and short-time integration for each 2 pixels in the Quad array. In this case there is no time difference between long-time integration and short-time integration, which realizes HDR with little blending offset when imaging moving subjects "
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] vincent2167:
Hi,

Look at this post where we can see the same issue with dng files for the LG G4 (until LG fixed it with the Marshmallow software update).

What's happening here is that there is no flat field correction embedded in the P20 pro dng file; when opening the dng in Lightroom for example, it's going to have strong vignetting and color cast in the corners.

I currently have a Mate 10 Pro and the issue with dng files is the same (I had to build my own profile). However I also had a P9 where the dng files were fine, so it doesn't look like that providing a DNG with flat field correction is now a priority for Huawei. We are very few users shooting RAW and complaining about this, which may explain this.

I have ordered a P20 Pro Twilight and should receive it hopefully at the end of next week (knowing that the estimated delivery date was delayed muliple times...).

I will create a correction profile and share it here.

If you want to create your own, here is a good link (navigate throught the website and follow the instructions): https://sites.google.com/site/cornerfix/home
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] bjanuario:
Can u then please share with me that lens profile ? I am unable to get it right on my p20 Pro :(
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] vincent2167:
I don't have the phone yet, but sure I will do it afterwards (hopefully by the end of the month).
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] vincent2167:
I received the phone today and using my previous methodology of profile creation, I don't get satisfying results. I guess I will stick with JPEG for the moment, hoping that Huawei will fix the dng profile like LG did with the G4.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] NightOrchid:
Dont worry OP, your phone is not faulty :)..

Even though SONY Xperias dont support RAW, thay are a little like this too.. at the 19 or 23mpx setting... you do get a certain amount of barrel distortion towards the edges of the image.. It may be that Huawei look at this and try to do something, but it is normal at 40mpx.

One of the things I do to help this in my Street/Candid Photography with my Canon.. is try to keep your subject in the centre and as big as you can.. what goes on at the edges of your image is often just waste anyway.. also Use Tap to focus (Tap on your subject on the screen), by doing this, you set the cameras light metre to Centre Weighted, therefore setting optimal light settings, which prevents your subject being "blown out" or poorly lit in the image.. With Tiny camera sensors try to drop your horizon, so you avoid placing your subject against a bright sky or background, unless your using "Fill in" flash on the main area..

Dont forget, this phone is less than 6 weeks old and other than the NOKIA 1020, this type of Imaging sensor hasnt been done before, so Huawei/Leica might tweak the camera sensor with updates if the barrelling is that bad.. but until then.. stick with jpg if you can.. :)

Hope that helps :)
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] orangecroc:
Make your own correction profile in your processing software.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] vincent2167:
I finally managed to create a profile that provides satisfactory results. You can download it here.

The instructions are the same than the ones provided in this post. The only difference is that under "Image Correction Options", I set up the Luminance value to 1 and Chroma value to 1.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] AlexRocker:
Thank you so much, this works wonderfully!!! :good: The RAW files look great now and are so much easier to edit in Lightroom! That color cast was truly a nightmare!!!

Is there such a tool for Android? Or do we have to wait if Huawei will somehow correct their RAW with an update?
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] kolembo:
This is a GREAT topic!

Learned a lot.
[Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers] MikeMTS:
Thank you so much. I just got a Lightroom CC/Classic/Photoshop plan since I've been meaning to give photo editing a proper try for years. I really wanted to try using RAW files from my P20 Pro, but after a few days of experimenting I was at a complete loss how to fix the vignetting and color cast. I could get some of the way there but I always ended up with "artistic" final edits rather than natural colors.

I've run a few DNG files through Cornerfix with your profile and they appear to be completely rid of the issues and now provide a great starting point for editing.