yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] TMShadow:
ive been following this thread since the start but i was never a member so i couldnt post...and after seeing all this work you guys have been doing i had to register just to thank yall

i would try to contribute but i realize that we shadow users want the 6.1 asap so im gonna leave it to the pros

once again appreciate all the work guys:D
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] freyes01:
ND4SPD as soon as you finish with the rom please let me know how can I package few utilities on it (e.g CommManager)
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
Kind of some bad news, I guess I was doing the XIP in a hurry, but when I tried to flash the rom to my phone, it just stays at the stick together screen. I'm going to have to restart porting the XIP because I'm going to wipe all the files and start over.

It shouldn't take as long since I know what I'm doing now.

Yeah, I'm on Team 868 TechHOUNDS from Carmel, IN
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] maxima00se:
How much longer do you think it will take? You are doing a great job man....keep up the good work.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
Done. I just booted up the phone and am happy to say it works with the new XIP. Will test for power cycling and other issues and will post soon.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
Problems/Features:

All comm works through the comm manager and through settings

Accidently added T-Mo bloatware and it messed up the initflashfiles.dat, causing there to be nothing in the start menu, I had to access whatever I could through recent programs

Seems to not power cycle (will wait for a little bit longer, though)

Starts up first time with a messed up T-Mobile default scheme. Will delete this and make it start with the sliding_panels_media theme.

I haven't tested a WMDC connection because that messes up the power cycle test. Will do so soon.

As soon as I fix the few problems up (takes about 5-10 mins) and I am happy with what I see, I will post the rom
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
Problems/Features:

All comm works through the comm manager and through settings

Accidently added T-Mo bloatware and it messed up the initflashfiles.dat, causing there to be nothing in the start menu, I had to access whatever I could through recent programs

Confirmed to not power cycle

Starts up first time with a messed up T-Mobile default scheme. Will delete this and make it start with the sliding_panels_media theme.

Will test WMDC

Camera looking for resource. Will add it in.

As soon as I fix the few problems up (takes about 5-10 mins) and I am happy with what I see, I will post the rom for testing
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] shadowmike:
Thats great nd4spd. if theres one thing you could test is internet sharing.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
I don't know if you caught my PMs but it looks like you've made a lot of progress. I can't wait for you to post what you are happy with. As I said in my PMs I have no problem testing it out on my CID unlocked shadow once all comm paths work (i.e. phone and EDGE).
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] benjaminries:
I will test the new ROM on my phone as well.

So as I understand it, if ND4SPD can fix all the problems he just identified, we'll still be looking to address the following issues:

1. Any minor bugs we discover in newly cooked ROM.

2. Hardware scroll wheel (when rotated) moves selection up/down, not left/right, in WM6.1 Slide theme

3. No Slide/Neo coexistence (I'm PMing the dude who ported Neo to Shadow WM6 to get more background research on this)

Is there anything else - any other loss of functionality compared to the existing official WM6 Shadow ROM?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
What do you mean by #2? When I installed his last one my wheel went the right direction clicking it. I don't know about actually rotating it. Which do you mean?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] brandun_6:
He means rotating it...it should move left/right instead of up/down.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
That's what I thought. Hopefully the new ROM is posted soon but it looks like there were a few more issues he ran into.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
As soon as I get home, I'll rebuild the rom. I think I've plugged all the current problems. It takes about 10-15 minutes for it to rebuild the bin file that has the OS. I'm pretty sure I'll have the rom ready to post this evening.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
I flashed the rebuilt rom onto my phone, unfortunately, none of the changes I tried to make stuck except that now it started with the Sliding Panels Media theme by default. I think I've found the file that's been causing all the problems now. There was another initflashfiles.dat file that shouldn't have been there that didn't add all the apps to the start menu and as a result to camera and ActiveSync didn't work.

I am running G'reloc on the files right now and will rebuild the dump again. Will post soon with update
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] shadowmike:
sounds good nd4spd can't wait.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
I can't understand what is going wrong now. In the old rom, everything came into the start menu. After the port it doesn't work. There was one file one the previous XIP module list that I didn't port is the initvmmap.exe and that's because the shadow never had that and I didn't know where to put it in the memory (just in case I messed it up. Does anyone know?

I'll upload what I have now. Camera and ActiveSync still don't work. Will be about 15 minutes
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
I hope it is tonight, cuz the small time I had the last version on was nice even though it wasn't functional enough yet.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
I hope so. I can live without the camera and WMDC while the bugs are worked.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
Explain what you mean by the start menu not working please.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
Nothing shows up in the start menu. The only stuff you can test is on the home screen and in the recent applications menu.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
here is the link: http://rapidshare.com/files/109940079/RUU.rar.html
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
Is file explorer in the recent apps menu initially? If not does anyone know some way to access it with limitation? Damn, all the comm is working and now this.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
This is kind of frustrating me. Do I need to run all the JumpSPL stuff again or not? When I do it asks for the jump address, when I don't run it your RUU errors.

Update - I am a goof ball. I got it to work. I just needed to read and remember what to do.

Update 2 - Flashed worked. Scroll wheel still goes up/down vs left/right. Enable advanced network functionality is enabled by default - disabling allowed for a successful sync with WMDC. You can't edit the registry from connected computer - access denied error.

Update 3 - Figured out how to access file explorer. Used the old IE trick - I made a favorite shortcut to file://\ and presto. All of the shortcuts are visible in the windows\start menu folder. cab files will not install. can't install programs through WMDC. Using the Security Configuration Manager from your computer to try and change the configuration of the Shadow doesn't work because apparently the correct certificate for it to even work isn't installed on the Shadow. I'll keep testing what is already installed and see what doesn't work. Hopefully someone with more skill and time can figure this one out. Also, I've had it on for more than an hour now and it hasn't power cycled.

Update 4 - More than two hours now and no power cycle. Everything that is listed in the start menu folder functions correctly from what i can tell so far except the camera already known. All of the under settings work. After you manually configure your EDGE connection it works great. Bluetooth and Wi-Fi work, at the same time as well. The wheel light still doesn't work. I'll update this if I notice anything else but I think I'm stalled for now until programs can be installed.

Update 5 - Windows Live functions correctly but instead of it naming the account Live it names it Hotmail. No biggie to me.

#6 - Still no power cycle after 4 hours. SMS/MMS both work once you configure MMS. The new task manager, threaded SMS, and PIE are nice. Multiple message selection is nice, even though you can't choose more than one message at a time unless they are next to each other (unless I'm missing how to do it). Being able to select text off a web page to copy in PIE is nice as well. I better get some rest now and stop messing with this before I am up all night.

#7 - Wheel light works when you get messages and calls, just doesn't turn on when you touch it. You can also copy/past in messages. The new sliding panel screens seem much faster than Neo. Plus it looks easier to modify. I actually like it better than Neo. Now I am quiting for tonight.

#8 - Woke up and it was kind of stuck. I set an alarm and it didn't go off and for some reason I couldn't get it to unlock. I thought it was frozen but the time and phone LED were still functioning correctly. I kill the phone and restart it and then everything was back the way it was before, and the alarm went off.

ND4SPD where did you get the WM 6.1 ROM files that you started with? I don't recall. As you know, my phone is CID unlocked and now it's acting locked again and like a locked down development device.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] tjken33:
After following this thread from day one, I finally toughed-up and decided to try the this latest test release. I for one am amazed at the progress all who have contributed have made. This test 6.1 shadow rom runs great! Even thought I may have sum time before I find sum bugs (like the comm managers words being a bit jumbled) this release is working pretty well. That coming from a person who isn't as shadow tech savy as some.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
Updates

I'm going to keep editing my post above with updates.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ha85:
wow this is great news! Since I'm not tech savvy at all I'm going to wait a little until it seems like a lot of the stuff is working...can't wait though!
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] mr.g:
how do you install it? and what are the bugs that need to be worked out??
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
i've started to update my post here, http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2144339&postcount=228, with things i am finding. you'll have to read in the begining pages for how to install it.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] benjaminries:
I take it you've tried running this unlock tool?

http://www.elims.org/downloads/HTC-Tmobile/SDA_ApplicationUnlock/SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe

Also ND4SPD, do you think perhaps you ported one too many XIP files? Could you post two lists: the XIP files ported from the emu image, and the XIP files remaining from the WM6 ROM?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] beamer069:
SDA Unlocker reports phone is unlockable.

I also tried SurrealNetworksAppUnlock -- got error did not have sufficient permissions.

I tried several cabs-- Resco explorer, Smart explorer, TCMP, and a few others. None of those would install. I did get 2 cabs to install however. Total Commander and a cab to add Office Mobile 6.1. Both installed No problem for some reason. Icons not added to all programs (which is still empty)

Thank you ND4SPD for all of your hard work and everyone else that is contributing!
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
The 2 that worked for you must have been signed with a certificate that this ROM already has. When I tried changing the security config with the Microsoft tool it said I needed to put a certain certificate on it and it'd be able to change. You'll be able to run the 2 if you use the method I mentioned in my update post. Why did you do the Office cab, just to see which if any would work?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
Tried everything I can think of including this to see if I can get around security settings, nothing works yet. I can create files/folders on the device though.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] beamer069:
Yes thats right. I figured it was a microsoft app and what the heck. It gave me hope so I tried a few more after that.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] mr.g:
i tried looking for how to install and couldn't find it. could someone just post something please?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] beamer069:
I just checked and total commander is not signed. Its website states that phone must be unlocked to install. That is strange.

Link to page with total commander info:

http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=16509
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] beamer069:
Its earlier in THIS thread like page six or seven....

Download the SSPL file... there is instructions in that folder.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] beamer069:
I am having same issue now except i powercycled and when phone restarted seems frozen. Time and led work fine. However no keys will respond. Cannot power off, removed battery, restart, worked after second time.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] tjken33:
thats weird. I to set an alarm over night and I woke up to it going off. Everything is working fine till this point. In that I mean no freezing or lock ups yet. Maybe it has to do with the programs you guys installed? i only installed Live for right now.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] beamer069:
I reset phone to test for this because you could be right.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] mr.g:
just installed it... pretty good interface... nothing bad... just the fact that there is no task manager... active sync doesnt work... NO FILE MANAGER everything is pretty good, good job... keep up the good work
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] mr.g:
forget it.... i got active sync to work
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] tjken33:
the task manager works also. Better then wm 6 IMO
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] beamer069:
the_matrixx showed how to get to File Manager via pocket IE. From there you can run the programs you want to put them into Recent Programs. Active sync does work unless you are trying to install a program through it.

It does I like it so much more!
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] shadowmike:
ND4SPD YOU ARE GOD... ive had this installed over night and will not be putting tmobiles rom back on for awhile untill i need something like the camera. lol.

but. cant wait for the next version...

mms works with no settings entered here. also if i can get smarttoolkit installed that will be the best solution to the start menu not working for now.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] beamer069:
Good thinking shadowmike! I will try it as well!
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
WOW. Lots of feedback from a lot of people! Thanks to all of you who gave feedback! The_matrixx, if you want to go back to the t-mobile rom, just start up the phone in bootloader mode (see shadowmike's post from a few pages ago). Then you can run the RUU and it will install the T-Mo rom

I don't know. There weren't any XIP files from the emulator image because it runs on the computer, but here's what I ported from the Motorola Q:

ceddk.dll

certmod.dll

coredll.dll

devmgr.dll

fatfsd.dll

filesys.exe

fsdmgr.dll

imgfs.dll

In the thread that Da_G posted in, he talked about taking away references to a fsdspy.dll file. However, the shadow doesn't have this and I didn't worry about it. The shadow has something like HTCfsdspy or something like that.

On another note, I found a file in the OS folder in the SYS package that was called CertInstaller.exe. Is that the program that checks for certificates on cab files? If it is, tell me and I'll delete it. edit: nvm, it's the certificate installer isn't it?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] shadowmike:
just to save time and not going through pages. to enter boot loader mode.

1. disconnect usb cable from phone.

2. turn off the phone.

3. take batt. out and put back in. (optional i do it just to make sure theres no pwer in the phone)

4. hold camera button and turn on phone. you should see a screen with 3 colors.

4a. if you see stick together and then windows mobile screen repeat step 2.

4b. if you see the 3 color bootloader screen plug in your usb cable to the phone and run t-mobiles update.

also nd4spd a better question is what changed from the first rom you posted with a working startmenu from this one ?

since most of the non working parts of the first one are fixed and thats the only thing that broke theres something small making it not work.

also i think i like the home screen going down and up over left and right.your going to have to click the wheel one way or another and to not have to click it just to get to the bottom seems better to me, as of right now it take a total of 3 clicks of the scroll wheel to get to SETTINGS : Background Image, turn the wheel to scroll down and then clicking to get to background image. The old fashion way if the scroll wheel scrolled left and right it would take a total of 6 clicks just to get to settings and then scrolled to background image. So in turn as is it now is a time saver. I know that others will still want left and right. my .02

also i have had no success installing smarttoolkit. however im going to reload the tmobile rom install smarttoolkit to my starage card. get any of the reg edits and then reload nd4spds rom and input any of the reg edits :) and see if that works.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] beamer069:
Has anyone gotten any reg edits to work? I have tried a couple but neither one worked. Nevermind I got one to work so I dont know what I was doing earlier. I enabled message sent notification lol. Time to turn it back off!

I think some work some do not. I tried to change Resolution to 96 DPI and it would not work when it did on T-mobile rom.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] tjken33:
yea with all this feedback and these updates we'll have a RTM release in no time! :D

keep up the good work fellas
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
The start menu didn't show up after I ported the XIP. But, in that same test version, I had also reverted to the T-Mobile OEM folders to make sure I had all the correct HTC drivers and then proceeded to delete unnecessay t-mobile files.

I'm not sure, but I think it might be because of the fsdmgr.dll and filesys.exe (random guess) that we're having this problem
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] shadowmike:
smarttoolkit loads fine ... on 6.1

like i said before i installed it on the storage card and then upgraded to 6.1 and now all icons are in smarttoolkits start menu.

anyone know the reg edit to app unlock ? because thats all the sda unlocker is. i know ive seen it somewere...
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] beamer069:
Yes, i tried this this morning but could not get to work. Used total Commander reg editor.

In order run unsigned programs you must app unlock your device or add/change the following registry value using PHM Registry Editor for Smartphone or PPC

add HKLM>Security>Policies>Policies

value = 0000101B DWORD = 1
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] mr.g:
IT DOESNT WORK!!! when i connect it has a synchronization error saying i would need activesync 4.5 and i do have it install
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] brandun_6:
Does anyone know if T-Mobile Adress Book works with this ROM?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] shadowmike:
CeRegEditor refuses to create this registry...

nd4spd anyway to have this default in the next rom ?

also anyway to put the 6.1 windows mobile boot image. instead of the old 6.0. :) (this isnt important just visual)
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
That looks really nice! Yeah, I'll put in the wm6.1 boot image instead of the 6.0 one. A dll called oemstartup.dll by T-Mobile forced it to use the wm6.0 boot image. Looks like I'll have to do some resource hacking :). I'll remember to put in application unlock by default for the next release. Thanks for reminding me.

Nice work shadowmike! With people(everyone debugging on this thread) like you working on this, we'll have a nice clean and aesthetic rom very soon!
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] shadowmike:
as stated earlier change the usb to pc connection setting and it will sync fine with vista and xp. i have active sync 4.5 on my xp desktop and have no problems

also nd4spd anyway you could find out from the typhoon guys how they got myfaves and the chome settings in there ?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] mr.g:
i dont have anything in my start menu and i kno thats an unsolved problem but how do i open something and put it into the recent programs? cause i cant open any install programs
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] brandun_6:
For some reason I can't do the SSPL unlock anymore. It goes into the dimmed black screen for 2 seconds then the phone shuts off. I did it before for the first ROM now it won't work. Any help please?

Edit: Nvrmnd I got it right, sorry!
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] ND4SPD:
Actually, I did figure that out yesterday. The new homescreen and the neo homescreen are based the on the same thing. I can use the exact same registry keys/images/plugins from the Neo Interface with the sliding panel interface. Sorry I forgot to mention that before.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] brandun_6:
the_matrixx what do you mean by configuring the EDGE and MMS settings?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
I figured the 6.1 interface was based off of Neo the second I saw screen shots of it. The reason I actually like the 6.1 UI better is that it is easier to integrate other plug ins since it isn't uniquely shaped.

I've actually been using this ROM all day at work and it made it through my tough workload without any issues that I haven't experienced with the stock ROM like strange errors for no reason i.e invalid sim.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
After I flashed to this ROM the MMS and data connection settings were either blank or samples. Once I created or corrected them everything worked fine. Someone else earlier today in this thread said his MMS worked w/o doing this so I don't know which one of us had the fluke situation. Another example of strange settings issues is that the SMS number was in the phone already but the voicemail number wasn't. I've only flashed to this version once so I can't say if this happens everytime.

Anyone flashed and tested this more than once already? I actually don't want to yet since I want to test it over time and see how it holds up under preasure and see if I can help figure out how to get over some of these speed bumps.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] brandun_6:
Thanks can you tell me what settings you put for the data connection settings? And for the MMS setting please?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
Here, this will help anyone with all of these types of settings. http://tmobileuspublic.wdsglobal.com/phonefirst
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] brandun_6:
Thanks a lot.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] the_matrixx:
You got TC and PHM to install on this ROM? If so, where from? The one's I already had didn't work. If I can actually get into and edit the registry I'll be able to do a lot more.