yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] firefoxrebo:
I downgraded it to Nogut and I think I am fine now. F**k this update. I think this company is intending this sh*t to push up its sales.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] cthompson1972:
Fix for battery drain for Note 8 after upgrading Oreo

1) Go to settings

2) Go to Apps

3) Click on the three dots located in the upper right hand corner.

4) Select "Reset App Preferences"

5) Power your phone off and on again and the battery draining problem should be fixed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] firefoxrebo:
Have you tried it on your own ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] cthompson1972:
Yes. I am on my phone right now and have been on YouTube this evening with normal battery drain. After the update yesterday my battery was draining for no reason and I had to charge my phone three times. I remembered this fix from the last update when I didn't want to reset my device. I figured it had something to do with all of the Apps utilizing my location, so I wanted to do a reset of the Apps without resetting my device and it worked.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MACHEK:
Weird I did it and has not come back on
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] AcE1296:
Same here, it actually solved the issue. It showed as bixby voice was consuming the battery. I switched the toggle off and it has been better since then.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MACHEK:
Since updating I've had the best battery ever, love it now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] lsxd126:
How did you get that stunning battery life!?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] westham7:
Factory reset fixes 99.9% of problems
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ptheguy:
LOL hate to break it to you, but on my note 8 I get about 5 days on a single charge. I'm a regular user too, so I make phone calls, go online, use Bluetooth, and etc. Only difference, I don't use wifi.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Dankees:
How do you keep the background data off? It resets every time there is a restart.

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How do you get so much Screen Time?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Chickendick:
Is Sync enabled? It was for me after the update and once off solved my draining issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] p0wer1:
Could you please show how you downgraded to Nougat? I am having the same issue as you. Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] p0wer1:
hahaha....went back Nougat..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Limeybastard:
Wow you did it without anyone showing you how?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Alek7:
Guide downgrading Oreo to Nougat

Use Odin v3.13.1

Download Nougat firmware with 3rd generation bootloader (example N950FXXU3BRA8 works fine, the "3" indicates the generation)

Reboot into Recovery Mode and Factory reset your device

Open Odin, reboot into Download Mode and connect your device to your computer

Flash BL, AP, CP, CSC (choose the normal one, not the "Home" one) with only "Auto-reboot" and "F. Reset Time" ticked

Click start and enjoy (your device will automatically restart)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] p0wer1:
Right on! Download your carrier firmware..

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yes...it's not that complicated as it seems.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Cristiano Matos:
I did the same. Tried Oreo two times. Both factory reset and my battery was horrible. I live in Brazil and still no official firmware for us. I used Italy and Poland.

Maybe when official hits some battery improvements may happen.

Meanwhile nougat is great on my Note8 SM-N950F
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] mezdup:
Thank you! This did the trick for me. My graph is finally flatlining again overnight as it should be. It's annoying to have to go through setting all the permissions and associations up again but worth it to fix this ridiculous battery drain issue.

https://imgur.com/a/kIAp3
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] kenloon2004:
Try to clear partition cache.. it will improve battery life.. do it monthly..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MMCSTORE:
Thx it works ??
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ismo69:
Worked for play store update problems too!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Café King:
Can you downgrade without formatting the phone?

/CK
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] tahrang:
How to clear partition cache?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] juliospinoza:
Yep. Worked for me too.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] kenloon2004:
Turn off the device.

Press and hold the*Volume Up*key and the*Bixby*key, then press and hold the*Power*key.

When the green Android logo displays, release all keys ('Installing system update' will show for about 30 - 60 seconds before showing the Android system recovery menu options).

Press the*Volume down*key several times to highlight 'wipe cache partition'.

Press*Power*button to select.

Press the*Volume down*key until 'yes' is highlighted and press the*Power*button.

When the wipe cache partition is complete, “Reboot system now” is highlighted.

Press the*Power key*to restart the device.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] tahrang:
Battery drain after oreo update

I completed that yesterday, and though the drain is not as bad as before (50% in 5 hours, without use). Now it is around 20% during night, when the power saving and performance mode are on. So there is still some drain.

thanks

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What will be the effect on apps after this?

Will I have to reset preferences manually, or will each app ask for permissions?

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] cthompson1972:
Each app will ask for permissions. This also gave me a chance to do some cleaning as I had way too many apps that were utilizing my location. I have a lot of apps on my phone but after the cleanup I am now I am able to get through the entire day with 55% battery power left.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] mamba94:
This worked for me too! Thanks for sharing this was driving me nuts..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] edo101:
The apps using location...isn't there a setting in Google to disable enable apps to use my location? DOes this take care of all the apps? I am only getting 4.5 hours os ST with normal minimal use. I don't think this is acceptable. I thought 6 hrs was the normal?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] insanedrunk:
Omg dude thank you so flipping much!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] and.traini:
It worked for all the morning and the duration of the battery was fantastic. In the afternoon I have had it again with the error message in attach...

Thank you for your helpView attachment 4487827

Inviato dal mio SM-N950F utilizzando Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] nuclearrage:
Well you might be unlucky and have to factory reset . Can't read what the error message says , looks like an android system app is hanging, most likely due to something that went wrong after oreo update.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] SenorObscuroDeLosSith:
Device idle always active

Hi guys,

I have a note 8, updated recently to Oreo, yesterday and today when I had a look over the battery details I can see that Device idle is matching the same time as the phone itself on battery (if for example I see in Battery details: 22h 10m on battery, Device idle shows the same 22h 10m). Shouldn`t idle come up only when the device is left for some (during night for example)? Or is this normal behavior?

As I`m a new user I can`t post pics unfortunately...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] vojopd:
It is normal.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sefrcoko:
Yes like vojopd said, it's normal. You are right it seems misleading to call it "device idle" but mine shows the total uptime there too. All good.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] SenorObscuroDeLosSith:
Thanks guys for the info :svetius:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Arthurvben:
^^^^^^^^

What this guy says
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] henklbr:
[MENTION=2748793]mezdup[/MENTION] [MENTION=6037236]MMCSTORE[/MENTION] [MENTION=4429834]juliospinoza[/MENTION] [MENTION=3595557]mamba94[/MENTION] [MENTION=1297380]insanedrunk[/MENTION] [MENTION=1047194]and.traini[/MENTION]

What does this exactly "reset" from your apps?

1. Apps "permissions"?

2. Apps "Cache"?

3. Apps "Settings & Configuration"?

Or ALL of the above?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] juliospinoza:
You have to reset all your apps, you can do that on the three dots upper right.

After that every single app will return at it's original permissions and you have to grant them when you use them again.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] mamba94:
All of the above. Once you re-launch your apps you'll be asked to allow permissions/settings as needed per app.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] insanedrunk:
For me it addressed apps running in the background by reducing app run times. For example spotify won't preload music fit me while I'm at work. Before it would load a whole station for me. 2% battery drain an hour alone.imagine how many apps preload images and audio/video for you when it's off.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] alher591:
ive noticed standby is a lot better after oreo update. overnight i would normally lose 5-8% now its usually 1% of drainage over night.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Limeybastard:
Will this revert Gsam pro back to stock again? Meaning I'd have to run the ADB command again?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] juliospinoza:
I don't think so. I have SABS and the process didn't deleted the permissions.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Limeybastard:
I did that, now all my WhatsApp contacts in chat history show as numbers instead of their names. Any advice?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Limeybastard:
Here's what I'm talking about.View attachment 4497969
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] juliospinoza:
Go to settings/apps/WhatsApp and give permissions to contacts and storage.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] juliospinoza:
Like this in app permissions
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Limeybastard:
Thank you
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sunking101:
Mine was too for a couple of days but now I'm back to 10%+ overnight drain in aeroplane mode. I haven't installed any new apps or tweaked any settings. Frustrating.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Muntasir Mahmud Saif:
10+ overnight!!! use nougat bro...i lose only 1% overnight... totally 1%
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sunking101:
Is there an idiot's guide to reinstalling Nougat and to prevent the auto-update to Oreo again?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Muntasir Mahmud Saif:
are you on stock? unrooted? then ??
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sunking101:
Yes, stock and unrooted. First Samsung device...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] edo101:
So Nougat works better for you batterly life wise than Oreo?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sunking101:
I've no idea. I bought my Note 8 and it auto updated tl o Oreo the same day. I was gettng great standby battery life but now I'm not...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] alher591:
I would recommend going into recovery mode and resetting your device. once booted and setup performs factory hard reset.

This is what I do every time an update rolls out. smooth device every time.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] akhilnaidu7:
Was having a lot of stand by drain which showed Awake(screen off) a lot in BBS. I got tired after a week of troubleshooting that I decided to Factory Reset and then also go to recovery and reset from there as well.

Does the order of reset matter ? :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] darkieeyow:
My note 8 is just using draining too much battery and very quickly and it's not even showing up in device maintenance.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ImGone:
Not going to take the time to read through all the post but something I've learned that I haven't seen elsewhere is the ability to find the battery drain culprit on an unrooted phone. "Battery usage" is convenient for giving the bigger picture but it does not break down "android system" or "android OS." The better way to see what is taxing the CPU is looking at "memory" under "device maintenance." You have the ability to see what percent of the CPU is being used almost real time by all the services running on your phone. Some rogue service within android can be found and dealt with.

In my case, the culprit was Goggle Calendar. The CPU usage was a constant 2.5+% at all times. Knowing this, I started using a different calendar without issue. I thought it was the widget at first but then it continued after removing.

I was to the point of replacing the battery until I noticed that the mAh matched up well with what my battery should hold (3000mAh). I'm glad I didn't!!!

I hope this is able to help someone else...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] zedzone:
don't you think it was the screen resolution that the battery drained because ??

i just change my screen resolution to FHD+ yesterday, but before that i always using WQHD+, i am still looking for the answer for where is the resources that make my battery drained...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] me_ashman:
I'm starting to agree. My usage hasn't changed and I give it a good workout normally but my battery needs recharging by lunchtime when before it would last until at least 6pm that same day.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] vojopd:
Did you do factory reset after updating to Oreo and started installing apps manually, not restoring them from playstore?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] whelmar:
I did this.... fixed my issue. Battery back to normal.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] me_ashman:
Might be my next thing you do.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] alvin_elizalde:
does this mean like reformatting the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] me_ashman:
Yeah, I'm just trying setting the location to battery saving first. I've noticed Oreo pings location more than nougat.

I have a note 5 I use also and it's running nougat, lasts 3-4hrs longer. Failing that I'll format and start again.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] alvin_elizalde:
my battery drains a lot quite fast as well. and ive seen a lot of people say hard reset the phone. im thinking of doing that too while i still dont have a lot of stuff in the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] chacho_2me:
installing manually thru apk sideload or just install one by one on playstore?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sefrcoko:
He means installing one by one through Play Store, not side loading them all. Still seems like a bit of overkill to me but might be worthwhile if nothing else works for you. The reset is still a good idea though.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] me_ashman:
Wiping and starting fresh hasn't made too much difference.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] chacho_2me:
yup stil the same. just soe minutes on youtube and already lost 10%. not sure if this is normal when using youtube for 30mins
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] arnes_king:
Hi everyone,

I find this super slow motion feature really cool, and I use it a lot. The only thing that bothers me, is that I can record only 0,3 seconds of super slow motion in 1 part. There is an option for multiple recordings in one video, but it makes again 0,3 sec of slow motion, interrupts and then again.

Is there any possibility to record in 1 part more than 0,3 seconds of super slow motion?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] sjani:
Absolutely not.

It is not even 0.3 seconds, it is 0.2 seconds stretched to 6 seconds. The processing power required to process 960 frames per second and store them to memory is enormous that is why SloMo is only at 720 P on this phone. I think Sony with SD845 still does it at 1080p but total duration is 6 seconds for Xperia phones too. So definitely a hardware limitations in terms of processing power and thermal capacity.
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
24-04-2018

* Updated Security Patch : April 5 2018

09-04-2018

* Battery life Improved

* System Performance Improved

NO GOODIX FP YET
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Q & A

Soon
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] ayush4261:
Atleast give it a try...
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Users are having issues on my CR, so same problems might be there for some users.

Trying to fix.

If anyone have GOODIX Fingerprint sensor then please DM me on telegram, i have to check.

Help me so i can help others
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] ayush4261:
We already have 3 RR roms. Also how is it different from the one by kenzolo on XDA itself. Minor changes??:confused:
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Deleted member 8852951:
The battery life is much more longer than the other two RR roms. Goodwork mate ?
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] woodman:
Thread cleaned.

Please stay civil and don't post at all if you have nothing to bring to the topic or if you can't contribute to fix bugs yourself.

Thanks.

Wood Man

Senior Moderator
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] UriahNazarian:
Hi

What is the difference between this rom and this rom?:confused:

https://xdaforums.com/mi-max-2/development/rom-resurrection-remix-v5-8-5-t3764045
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Device tree / kernel source.

And battery backup
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] UriahNazarian:
It's little confusing:eek:
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] jbmc83:
id say: the more, the merrier! will add this to the index asap :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] UriahNazarian:
Thanks for your answer bro

I'll definitely test it. Battery consumption is the main factor for me.

Can i install Ram without factory reset? & rom without bug?
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Clean install with latest firmware is recommended.

I am using it from yesterday, no bugs for me. But cannot say that it is bugless as there may be many featured which i haven't tried yet.

If you find bugs, please report
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] UriahNazarian:
Im test it

My feeling is that the battery consumption in this ROM is as high as the Efficiency mode in the kenzolo ROM.And by using the power save mode in kenzolo, Battery consumption can be reduced further

And battery performance isn't added to the battery settings

Apart from these, it has a great performance in all areas:good:

Of course this is just my own opinion:)

Thank you for your work and God bless you bro
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] marc.com:
Many rom RR, would not it be better to collaborate between you?
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Magz Heaven:
My thoughts exactly, and help each other to bring a bugless ROM for all Mi Max 2 users. :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] jbmc83:
i dont think it would be that easy. the RR builds rely on different sources and dev trees, each dev has his own little tweaks and tricks up his sleeve. besides, theyre all exchanging ideas and helping each other already, so its best of both worlds: helping each other out with issues but keeping their own dev style. so its less bugs and more choice for us users :)

and dont forget: the more devs, the merrier! and the more custom roms :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Fingerprint in crDroid is fixed.

RR will be fixed soon.

Till then enjoy CR.

More ROMs are on their way, stay tuned.
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] ayush4261:
:victory:
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] MiladHashMan:
thank you pranavaryans.

Your rom is work awesome and main features are stable.

The only problem i have with this rom is low sound on all outputs. Head phone, Bluetooth and phone speaker have the same problem.
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Glad to know that everything works fine for you.

Having some personal issues to solve, once they are solved i will definitely look into sound issue.

Thanks for info.
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] gvsanthu10:
I have problem with safetynet..getting an error while installing the patch.

Can somebody help me?
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Error while installing through TWRP?
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] gvsanthu10:
Tried both via twrp and magisk
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
magisk version? 14+ ??
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] gvsanthu10:
Using magisk 16

In magisk I m getting

Single line of "installation failed"

In twrp I m getting

"The updater ended with error 1"
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Have you flashed safetynetfix through TWRP? link on OP
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] gvsanthu10:
Ya, downloaded from here

https://imgur.com/a/Lpxrp

file name

universal-safetynet-fix-v2-beta-5-magisk-v14.zip

link from OP
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] jbmc83:
may one ask why exactly? something happened?
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
New build coming soon
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pkdlca:
Thanks bro...
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] UriahNazarian:
Thank you so much for your work and effort

What has changed?

battery performance added to the battery settings?
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
will upload with changelog tomorrow.
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] jbmc83:
good to still have you with us buddy :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Thanks mate,

Add my CypherOS also on Index thread :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] jbmc83:
cypherOS! nice, will check it out ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] takusar:
Excellent rom
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Updated:

Link in OP
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Ravi Paandu:
Bro again there is no fingerprint option!! ??

Evry rom i m getng fp option.Only ur roms i m facing this problem

Try to fix that soon bro!!
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] wadiehabib:
Thank you for your work. Any changes from last build?
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
You will see some changes is battery backup + performanxe
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Unfortunately I have no idea that how goodix isn't working on any of my ROMs.

Tried several things by myself, but no luck yet.
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Ravi Paandu:
May be u can take help from other devs bro:confused:

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May be u can take help from other devs:confused:
[Xiaomi Mi Max 2  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] pranavaryans:
Yes you are right.

But conditions are :

Few of them do not bother to even reply,

Remaining few of them are in cold war with me.

Only one of them is trying to help now. (Not mentioning his name as cold war guys will have more problems with us).

Sorry for going that much off-topic.