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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I just can't get into phones that don't have QHD, built-in in Qi wireless charging -- and a whole list of other stuff that's missing for a premium phone. Essential has...

* No QHD

* no Qi wireless

* no IP68 dust/water resistance

* no headset jack

* no microsSD slot

So I think Essential is like OnePlus, another pretender. I don't see any reason to consider them when I want those features on my phone.

Maybe Essential's second phone will be much better than their first.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheInfiniteAndroid:
This is exactly my reason for holding out with the V30 H930DS, no other phone seems like the "complete" package to me, the only other phone I would slightly consider is the Xperia XZ2 but the fingerprint sensor placement is horrible, the V30+ ticks every box for me
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] johnmurrayvi:
The "COPY" and "IOCT" commands are not in the V30 LAF implementation.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] brossovitch:
Pixel devices are missing most of that though.

No 3.5mm jack, no SD card slot, not wireless charging, and no IP68 rating.

And they're absolutely amazing, run stock vanilla Android as Google intended it, and they don't void warranty for unlocking bootloader just as OnePlus doesn't.

And they cost more than a V30.

If we unlock our LG bootloader it voids warranty even though we can't even do anything with fastboot. (Reference to H932 TMO V30)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Pixel at least has IP67 and QHD. OnePlus and Essential has nothing for IP rating nor QHD.

And yes, I'm not buying Pixel either but they're not as bad as Essential and OnePlus. I also expect Pixel next year to add Qi wireless charging -- since Apple has.

LG V30 is the only phone where I'm not giving up something (QHD, Qi wireless charging) from my 2014 Moto XT1225.

Since then, especially late 2016 and into 2017, also IP 67/68 rating became default on premium phones like Motorola, Samsung, LG Pixel, even Apple. Apple even added Qi wireless charging.

Those that didn't aren't really premium phones. Especially OnePlus with its laughable 1080p, when all top tier Androids have had 1440p QHD since late 2014. (Even iPhone X has 1135p and Qi wireless charging.) You can buy them if you wish, but they're not competing with top tier phones like LG V30 or Galaxy S9/S9+.

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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mad Medik:
The OP5T is noticably faster compared to the V30. The community and company support were a world apart from LG. It was normal to be receiving monthly updates and their open beta was more frequent than that. Dash charging is faster than quickcharge 3.

The OP6 is rumoured to be released April 18. I will gladly swap my H933 for a OP6 if someone wants the trade. Matching graphics, better processing speed, ip68, support for flashing (doesnt void warranty), dash charging, more core memory and it is less expensive list price.

See here for some info:

Edit: As discovered by Chazzmatt, the gadgetsnow article contained incorrect information and as such was unreliable.

Link removed to avoid confusion.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheInfiniteAndroid:
This is absolutely spot on, it humours me how underated the V30/V30+ where considered and yet they seem to have everything ticked on the check list, even in aesthetics in my opinion the V30 is absolutely unmatched it's a beautiful device, the raspberry rose on my H930DS is truly one of a kind, I knew full well about my bootloader being locked down (although unfortunate) but I just had to have one anyway, but I have faith in the Devs on here to find a workaround or exploit, regardless, OnePlus would be more appealing if they stop with the cutbacks on features but then that would obviously include a price hike.. And Essential could do with a design change imo
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] SGCMarkus:
The OP5(T) is also running a nearly stock android, while the V30 has the whole LG UX.... and believe me, without it, its fast af (still really unstable currently, but fast af). But yeah, the update support, and those betas from Oneplus are indeed better. Would be nice if LG offered something similar. But i also heard from people on discord (xda server) that you can ask the LG Support if you have problems with developing (also for kernel/roms and so :confused: ), gonna try that out today
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
They might be gone, but lgup writes still so I it may be just a different command setup, so basically there has to be a way. Of course I'm totally blind to the whole LAF side though
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
1) upfront, I do agree that LG would improve their situation by encouraging development the way OnePlus does.

2) However, I think OnePlus is full of crap and I will never, never buy their phones until they have top tier hardware specs/features.

3) That link you posted is full of lies, er, misinformation. You might want to remove it as it damages your credibility. :)

WISHFUL THINKING

WISHFUL THINKING

It says the OnePlus 6 has 1440p. It does NOT.

No, OnePlus doesn't have ANY IP68 rating.

That's just what that site HOPES it will have -- because they know real premium 2018 phones should have those specs. ;) OnePlus 6 does NOT, according to many, many other sources. The phone has not been released yet, but there's been lots of credible leaks.

I can see the difference between 1080p vs 1440p. I've had QHD since 2014 and I'm not downgrading to a 1080p display.

Also, in my opinion, One Plus "Dash" charging is crap. I'm not replacing my universal Qualcomm QuickCharge chargers for some overpriced proprietary charger. I'm still using QuickCharge chargers I had for my Motorola phone on my three V30. $5-$6 each. With OnePlus you have to buy more of their ($30, last time I checked) Dash chargers if you want extra chargers.

Also I'm not throwing away my Qi wireless charging pads.

Strange OnePlus tries to copy Apple on everything, and can't even copy Qi wireless charging nor an IP rating?

Do you want to know why? It's because OnePlus doesn't really build their own phones. They are a sub-brand of Oppo and can't really design/manufacture their own hardware. They have no way of putting in Qi wireless charging if OPPO doesn't have it on their phones...

One day OnePlus will join the big boys -- when OPPO lets them -- but until then they're not a premium feature phone.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] unimatrix725:
Seriously WTF? If the bootloader is ? u can just install root from custom recovery.... Perhaps I'm too high or fell through a wormhole...

Selling my Note8 for a V30+ really soon. Sold out except Sprint & international models...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Holy smokes, why didn't we all realize that sooner? :rolleyes:

Welcome aboard, good to have you here.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
Yep, too high. Way high . Must be some good shiz though ?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Yeah, sort of the sequel to "Hey, there's an OEM bootloader unlock in Developer Options! Why don't you all just do that?" (asked in countless locked down bootloader threads)

So, it has progressed from "OEM Bootloader Unlock option Dev Options doesn't do anything if the OEM/carrier doesn't want it to do anything"...

To the current situation where actual "Unlocked Bootloader doesn't really do anything if the OEM/carrier doesn't want it to do anything."

[MENTION=3952503]unimatrix725[/MENTION], if you really don't know -- if you're not just making a joke -- then read the

post #2 this thread below.

Yes, that thread goes for over 100 pages. Doesn't matter. Post #2 tells you what you need to know. If you still want more information, the first 7 posts tell the complete story.

But, we knew all this back in September before the LG V30 was even officially released, due to what happened with the LG G6. The journey since then has been trying to overcome that obstacle.

[TMO H932 ONLY] Progress Towards Root/TWRP/ROMs with "unlocked" bootloader (not achieved yet)

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/how-to/progress-root-twrp-roms-achieved-t3690577
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheInfiniteAndroid:
This thread has steered off course a little lol, this might be a stupid question but is there anything I can do personally to help out with this?, I'm expecting my H930DS soon and I'll be ordering another V30 strictly to help towards development, so variant and network doesn't matter.. My hope is that the H930DS gets cracked or something but in the mean time I'd be happy to help out however I can with other variants
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] rayzerblayde:
... Would it be silly to suggest that we start a bounty for a working method to root? Seen this suggestion thrown around, with varied levels of success, on other phone threads. *wishful thinking*
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Just because nobody is posting rooting procedures in this thread does NOT mean nothing is happening: [MENTION=3167089]runningnak3d[/MENTION] is still working on his LAF magic, exploiting download mode to root.

He cracked it for V20 and earlier models, possibly even ones that DON'T have unlockable bootloaders. But in recent days he's been busy developing a simple and safe tool for it. It's a far more involved procedure than simple hacks of the past, requiring writing small chunks of TWRP to the misc partition, piecing them together on the carrier partition, and copying the completed TWRP image from carrier to the laf partition (download mode) from where it can finally be booted, so that the "real" TWRP can be flashed to recovery. Oh, and along the way backing up partitions that are temporarily overwritten, hash checking and comparing those backups, and restoring them in the end to make sure nothing is overwritten or lost due to bad transfers, bad cables, bad drivers, or bad users. It's a lot of work.

Once he has that tested and released this tool, he's said he'll work on the other models -- including eventually V30 H932, which still has at least a theoretical chance of rooting, if we can find a LAF version that has the necessary loopholes (specifically the COPY opcode) and which will boot on V30.

So don't despair because it's not there yet. The lack of postings in this thread does not mean the process it dead.

Instead, go to the LAFsploit thread linked below and donate to runningnak3d if you are able to and if root is important to you.

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3676011
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
I really hope this someday, somehow allows root on my 933. Obviously there was no chance of root in the past but now that there is a chance, feels like a carrot hanging in front of me. It's amazing what these developers can do.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
I hate being a spoilsport, but I believe the rooting of models without unlockable bootloaders is only for V20 and earlier. (And even for those it still isn't reality yet.) On V30, security was tightened a lot further, so that even if we should manage to flash TWRP, it wouldn't boot because recovery is checked (dm-verity, RSA signatures or both, I forget) unless the bootloader is unlocked. That's why [MENTION=3167089]runningnak3d[/MENTION] has been saying often that only H932 (and open market models, of course) has any chance of rooting, because at least their bootloaders are unlockable -- even though their fastboot is neutered.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
I think Dm verity is non-enforcing with bootloader unlocked and even further magisk flashes a disable zip . But twrp does boot in the h932

Deleted the rest cause I misread

Edit: found my answer on verity and bootloader

"Google says that devices shipping with 7.0 will have this feature, but strictly enforced mode will only be active on bootloader locked devices."
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] techlogik:
What? OnePlus doesn't void your warranty for unlocking. They don't encourage it, but they are more than will to give instructions for flashing their Beta software and running a different recovery/TWRP. Nobody has ever said their warranty wasn't honored because it was unlocked. Their main devs are all hired from XDA and well known Android Dev Rom builds from not long ago...the guys at the core of OnePlus are XDA/custom Rom gurus and Devs.

Anyway...wish OnePlus worked on VZW....we are kind of limited with VZW as customers to the Pixel and what else for unlocked Android with great hardware/high-end?????
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
That's exactly what he said.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mad Medik:
Chazzmatt beat me to it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] droidxxxxx:
Thinking about getting the v30 at T-Mobile. Poking through the forms here.. Can't really find anything in stone about a sure-fire way to root and ROM this device.. any good news on this? Before I go get one LOL?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Not yet.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
That's for the T-Mobile variant. There are others which have root, TWRP, ROMs:

Open Market European H930 V30

H930G (Italian) V30+

Open Market US998 V30

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] seloka180:
i have korean edition v300s

any chance ?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Not unless you can get bootloader unlock and find some way to root or flash TWRP.

The ones which have that are approved by LG to have bootloader unlock from the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list website, and they have full flash commands available.

T-Mobile has OEM bootloader unlock option but no relevant flash commands available.

There IS a T-Mobile H932 IN China -- a Frankenstein phone which is part T-Mobile and part European H930 firmware, which is rooted and has Galaxy S8 TWRP (don't laugh) -- but we don't know the methodology. What part of the H930 was needed for the bootloader unlocked H932 to then get root and TWRP? And WHY estoric Snapdragon Galaxy 8 TWRP, why not LG Joan TWRP?

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] seloka180:
Thanks for the information
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheInfiniteAndroid:
Is there anymore information about this in another thread, I've never even heard about this but it sounds crazy lol
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Sure, the T-Mobile root investigation thread. Hit the end of that thread, go back about three pages.

Ah, start with post #1082, and read to present.

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/how-to/progress-root-twrp-roms-achieved-t3690577/page109

Also this thread gives you some clue how it was done:

[Frankenstein Phone] Using LGUP for crossflashing

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3780969

Just not which parts were flashed and why those parts.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] GDane1:
So does this mean that Sprint v30 will have unlocked bootloaders? Thanks in advance
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] R800x_user:
Unfortunately a bootloader unlock for Sprint isnt possible. Unless someone cracks the bootloader.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] SeeZaar:
Uf that would be a big mistake, no offense
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Why would that have been a big mistake? The S9 and S9 Plus models are so much easier to convert to another carrier or non-carrier firmware. Root is also being worked on for the S9 series of devices, which haven't even been out that long. As an owner of an S9 Plus though, the speaker sound on the S9 Plus is awful by comparison. There are positives and negatives to buying a V30 or S9. Ultimately, the person buying it needs to decide what will work better for them based on what they expect from it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] SeeZaar:
That's true, but if u planning to do root n other stuff then why u just don't buy pixel 2 or oneplus or something similar
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
With the V30+ and S9 Plus I have. I don't feel the need to root either of them. Some people still like to have root though. Xposed, AdAway, and a much easier way to debloat and enabling features is made much easier when you can root the phone. If you aren't interested in unlocking the bootloader or root. That doesn't mean someone else isn't. Personally, I would like to see all phones come with the option to unlock the bootloader and have a full set of fastboot commands. That way, everyone has a choice.

The V30 is not a bad device at all but neither is the S9 and S9 Plus. I could have easily pointed out how superior the S9 screens are also by comparison. :P
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Because of specs. Both the LG V30 and Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ are superior for premium features I want -- like 3.5 mm headset jack and Qi wireless charging.

The S9/S9+ is the only real competition. V30 is the "right size" between the two, in my opinion. Goldilocks.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
True, and the V30 looks nicer in my opinion. They both have their strengths and weaknesses but both are great devices. Samsung has the bigger install base though, meaning their community and development usually moves quicker than the LG communities. Then again, a part of the issue there is LG's delay of how they offer bootloader unlocks. If the S9 Plus and the V30 had an offspring with the best of both devices rolled into one. That would literally be the must have device for me. V30 looks, Samsung OMOLED, SD845 with 6GB of RAM, LG's UI, LG's wide angle camera with Samsung's variable aperture, stereo speakers, quad-DAC, and ODIN support. :D
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Some of that will be in the V40. More refined OLED, more RAM, hopefully stereo speakers.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] seloka180:
Sorry I have decided to give up the v30 and Go back to the iPhone due to lack of root and lack of developers ،????

this is why people love the iPhone and samsung .
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsmarch:
Instead of complaining about the lack of developers and root, why not become one yourself?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Wait, you're going back to LOCKED DOWN Apple iPhone because you don't have root on T-Mobile LG V30?

I have root on V30, why don't you? ;) Open Market LG V30 US998, as well as two other European models have approved bootloader unlockand root, with TWRP and ROMs. If you want root right now, everyone knows those are the ones to buy while devs look for exploits.

Where's your root on your iPhone? Now, if you had said another Android, that might make sense. But iPhone? Seriously?

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsmarch:
I will add that someone the iPhones do still have a jailbreak. Depends on iOS version and which phone. Just as a heads up. That's where I switched from.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Silenus21:
Just ordered a V30. It was cheap but as it is the Sprint version I don't expect root right away.

Hopefully I can install some package disabler app like I did on my previous S8 without root. That and adguard can take care of my basic root needs, although I'd love the speaker stereo mod.

Have anyone tested that?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] seloka180:
i have korean edition v300s

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I mean developers are not interested in this great device

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any way to backup apps data without root in oreo
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] devilsmarch:
We have someone working on root right now for the v30. He's ran into some issues but he's still trying his hardest.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
People who think the iPhone is a less locked down platform and an alternative to Android always make me laugh. The giant douche might not be practical for everyone but it is still the better option over the turd sandwich.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] seloka180:
I hope it will come out with a good outcome. Thank you for the information.

I love the root My goal of buying this divice is to enjoy with root . exposed . titanium backup . twrp ...?? i love custom room
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Silenus21:
Not to play devil's advocate but a jailbroken iPhone is a sweet device. I've used a lot of them, it just gets tiring when there is an update and you are left out. If the iPhone had custom ROMs that could always get update without losing a jailbreak it would be a more popular device to people like us who like to tweak a lot of their devices.

But a stock iPhone is really boring, at least you don't need root for a lot of tweaks and apps on Android.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheInfiniteAndroid:
Yeah because there's plently of development forums for iPhone... Oh wait... Lord knows why you'd downgrade your device, a non rooted V30 still tops a jailbroken iPhone... Samsung's software sucks imo but hey enjoy your now worse phone :)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septembersrain:
Oh boy was jailbreaking tweaky though. I enjoyed it on my old 5s but you had to be really careful which sources you used from Cydia. They had their own malware issues like third party apps on Android.

You could also easily cause a ton of springboard crashes or end up with the Apple logo stuck and have to reset whole device.

Certain tweaks didn't work together well but yeah, it was pretty fun.

It seems Android is becoming like iOS now. Trying to wall up the garden. It's disappointing.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheInfiniteAndroid:
Android is taking a step in the right direction though, the under the hood improvements it's making a long with functionality, Android imo surpasses iOS so to say that it is "becoming" iOS makes no sense to me because it's implying that Android is getting worse... Which it isn't, does it have certain visual aspects of iOS or similar features to iOS? Sure, but we execute it a lot better
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ranahan:
unlocked bootloader.

oreo H930ds - v20d-global-com

Both sims working.

flashed european firmware; flashed new_unlock.bin via fastboot. (no fail at all)

done!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] gazzacbr:
Yes, as many others. These 'old' threads are quite misleading now. Hopefully the op's are still around to update the titles.

But adding a new post to these just brings them back up to the top (hint)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Yes, ever since Mid-May you can root any V30/V30+/V30S on the planet -- except T-Mobile H932.

Thanks to [MENTION=6158380]TxanMoe[/MENTION]! See the WTF BOOTLOADER Unlock and Root thread.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
Yeah, I was subscribed to the threads that were at the time following if root was going to happen. Not seeing anything in them I kind of figured nothing new had come about. I had even read the wtf thread when it first came out but didn't have a clue what was going on, not many did. Wtf was the right title.

Not a big deal, finally figured out root was possible and couldn't be happier now. Only a few weeks behind.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
"WTF", because what happened was crazy. But it worked. MAJOR (wonderful) bootloader unlock exploit! The kind you dream about.