[Sony Xperia XZ2 Questions & Answers] xarinatan:
with everyone sitting on their asses with ice on their tits nothing is going to change.

I know Sony is still one of the most prominent ones in the opensource areas, and I do apologize for not realizing there's still so much left of it; I've been playing with it all morning, and I've been trying to compile a ROM with just the things I need based on their official build instructions that are on their developer website which at least are pretty solid and seem to work so far (though I haven't built a full ROM yet, first need to download 30gb+ of android repo again to a separate buildserver I just set up for this stuff, my desktop only has 4gb ram so I think that won't be enough)..

But I just don't get why everyone seems to find it normal to get dictated what software you run on your personal computer that just happens to be in your pocket. In fact, even for desktop PCs that seems to be true these days, Windows can be an absolute cancer to remove from some laptops and OEM desktops, WHY? WHY does it have to be a fight to just own a ****ing device that you pay hundreds of euros for? I think that's insane, and I think it's even more insane that people are defending this sort of behavior, just because the hacking/opensource community has so far managed to break the DRM every time, at the expense of losing major security features such as SELinux etc. Back on the Z1 compact that wasn't a thing, I can use ALL of the hardware without restrictions on a fully AOSP 8.1 Oreo, for THAT I absolutely applaud Sony, but using that to tease me into spending another 600 euros with an experience that is basically a rollercoaster of "what the ****ing **** they can't be ****ing serious about this" absolutely turned me around again, so excuse me for my rough language, but I still absolutely stand by my words, and I absolutely contacted both the EFF and a Dutch lawyer bureau to see what I can do about getting them to release the DRM on the camera, because somewhere I feel like what I ran into with my new phone doesn't hold up very well especially in European courts.

update: seems I cheered too soon with the build instructions, only the XZ and XZ1 appear to be in the list of devices when choosing what to build for.. even if I merge the source dump from their opensource archive into the directory, I guess that's also why there's not much opensource roms to speak of? building just doesn't seem possible right now?.. why? the phone has been out for 4 months :|||| Are you seeing what I mean with that rollercoaster? I just wanted a new phone, I have a fulltime job at an hour drive away (that's 2 hours of spending in a car a day), I need my phone daily and I don't have time for this bull****, which is exactly why I bought Sony, because they always claimed to be so opensource friendly, but so far I've just had to use my old phone the whole time and spent literally days and had to spin up big beefy buildservers just trying to get this thing to work the way I want it to. I just feel like I've been scammed out of 600 euros and I could've gotten a better experience if I would've gone directly to China and grabbed anything that has a snapdragon on there and some promise of a remotely decent camera at half or less the price.. I wish Fairphone made waterproof devices, then I wouldn't have to buy a whole new phone every few years but I could just fix it up like you should be able to with any general purpose computer ... but I'll leave it at that because I dumped enough salt about the state of things in this thread already.

update 2

https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Andr...rted-by-open-devices-program/m-p/1324359#M316 I guess this is the main reason why? It'll "become available soon" ... guess I'll just patiently wait with my nonexistent brick until it 'becomes available' then? :/

update 3

https://www.xda-developers.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-845-kernel-source-code/ hmmm .. Well Okay. I guess I can wait those few weeks for the opensource ROM. But that better also be fixing the ****ing camera because I kind of doubt it, that's gonna require the DRM 'patches' first (AKA disabling SELinux and applying dirty hacks)... so I'm still quite curious what the lawyers will find.