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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] fish312:
I finally managed to get my S9+ rooted, after 21 horrible days in RMM Jail. Used the provided G965_PIE_Root_for_OEM_issue_devices_V5.zip with Pie (G965FXXU2CRLN) and twrp-3.2.3-0-star2lte.

Now I'm on Pie and not really liking it, the UI changes are not to my taste. I want to downgrade back to Oreo but I'm terrified of losing TWRP/root again (and spending more time in unlock jail) . Is that a risk or am I just paranoid?

I should be okay if I only flash the AP part of the Oreo firmware right (say flashing AP_G965FXXU2BRJ3_CL14479316_QB20051944_REV01_user_low_ship_meta.tar in Odin)? Or is there a better way to do it?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gaww:
Stay away from Odin firmware and just clean install an oreo rom.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] evaworld:
How did you escape this rmm state after 21 days??
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Mrferrelli:
I have a root question. I noticed some threads out there mentioned that if you root your Samsung Galaxy s9 plus that you don't have Samsung pay or the secure folder anymore and I wanted to check and see if that was still the case and if there is a good link here through XDA that has the instructions to root the phone but still maintain all the phone's normal functionality as well as root access.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Gabi1998boss1:
I need help please

Si I attempted to root my galaxy s9 plus (exynos version) on android pie (9.0) but I ended up in a boot loop so I flashed a stock firmware and now my phone is ok but I still want to roo it but I don't want to end up In a boot loop again please can anyone tell me the right instructions to follow
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gaww:
Still the same - you lose them.

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Follow the OPs instructions and start with oreo. Then later you can update to pie with a rom - no need to mess with odining firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Lolinajdi:
Loli

Are there any issues or problems like boot loop etc?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bdwilk:
Even if 100 people tell you no issues and 100% safe always be prepared for issues and bootloops.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] daviddema:
[MENTION=3931450]dr.ketan[/MENTION]

Is there any hope for people whose phone seems to remain stuck forever in RMM state prenormal? I've read and read, tried everything, did everything by the book, followed the instructions to the letter... never does RMM state clear after 7 days (phone bought in Saudi Arabia, CSC ksa/ksa,ksa/ksa in software info).

I checked the S9+ of my friend who bought it in Saudi months ago and never tried anything out of the ordinary with it: his RMM state is also prenormal... Are some countries locked forever?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] faoineag:
Thanks to this fantastic guide I finally managed to root on my Galaxy S9 + with Android Pie. Now for firmware updates how do you do it? Will I receive the notice?

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Thanks to this fantastic guide I finally managed to root on my Galaxy S9 + with Android Pie. Now for firmware updates how do you do it? I will receive the noticed?

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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Lolinajdi:
So there is no problems?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bdwilk:
My 1st and 2nd attempt failed. I'm not sure how anybody got it to work on stock pie with root. My 3rd attempt only worked because I flashed a "custom" stock ROM after flashing TWRP. I haven't tried to go to stock since but I have tried Soldiers firmwares where it flashes a pie bootloader and bricks me every time. I have to flash an Oreo bootloader to recover.

So yeah there are problems. Best thing to do is read read and read again and be prepared for problems.

Check the post below your last post for more confirmation.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] evaworld:
Thanks a lot for your detailed reply. Will try doing this again and hope it works.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Lolinajdi:
There is some question

1:are you have root on your Samsung Galaxy s9+?

2:are magisk root is Supports Samsung s9+? Or need Modified version of magisk,

3:how I can install twrp recovery and magisk root safely ?

4:if root my device can I use hide root Feature to hide root from Samsung apps?

5: I read that if I root my device the Knox e-fuse is will be burnd immediately and will be Adversely affects on bootloder is that right?,

6:are the magisk +oem+efs backup etc

Is it updated with latest version I mean all files are updated?.

7:if I install twrp recovery only are my Knox counter is will be tripped?

My device is

Samsung Galaxy s9+

I Have two year warranty

I hope you will answer my questions
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] evaworld:
Bought it second hand in Egypt

EGY/EGY/SMP
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] faoineag:
How do you do with updates? Thank you

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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] daviddema:
SMP is a CSC code meaning "test/sample". Not sure if it has anything to do with the fact you can't clear the prenormal state.

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I tried everything you did except for point 15. Will give it a go next time. I don't have much hope though, after seeing the s9+ of my friend who has had it for months and still has RMM state prenormal as well.

Regardless it's absolutely infuriating and unacceptable from Samsung to implement such shady practices, with complete lack of transparency about what it does and how it works (or doesn't). This was my last Samsung phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] fish312:
1. Yes, I am finally rooted after a long long battle. I have not tried Magisk Hide or SafetyNet tests yet but those are lower concern for me right now.

2. Use the Pie files provided by [MENTION=3931450]dr.ketan[/MENTION] in the first post, everything should work.

3. Follow the steps I listed in Part 2 of my post and take note of all the dangers I listed. You won't permanently destroy your phone unless you try some partition nonsense, but you risk going back to OEM jail.

4. In theory yes, I have not tested out Magisk Hide or safetynet tests yet. Note that you will STILL LOSE Samsung Pay and Secure Folder, there is NO WAY to get them to work once the Knox efuse is burned.

5. Yes, you don't even need to succeed root. The second you flash and boot into anything custom Knox is 0x1 forever. I don't know what you mean by adversely affected, i guess some buyers might not like it if you try to resell?

6. Don't use the latest version. For TWRP use twrp-3.2.3-0-star2lte.img, the rest use whatever [MENTION=3931450]dr.ketan[/MENTION] linked as per android version.

7. Yes, Knox will be tripped. See #4 and #5.

Good luck and don't give up. So long as your S9 isn't a snapdragon core you should be able to get there eventually. It took me 21 days and 3 failed attempts after all. My previous phone was the S4, so much easier in comparison, did it all in a single afternoon. Let us know if the untoggle/toggle of OEM unlock works!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Lolinajdi:
I mean that I read if Knox efuse brund it will be affecte on the bootloder and Your device will be damaged with no repair and forever

2

I will be using

Twrp-3.2.3-0-star2lte.img

3

Do you have a guarantee when you work root

I mean your device guarantee ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] fish312:
There's always an inherent risk when you modify a device, so there are no guarantees at all. Your warranty will probably be void and official Samsung repair shops will not be able to help. That being said, it's quite easy to recover from a failed root if you just flash official stock rom again.

If you are still worried or cannot afford to risk it, perhaps it might be safer to keep stock android. I personally need root, but plenty of people can survive without it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gaww:
Guarantee is still good in Europe but dead in US - unless you break it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Lolinajdi:
Is it possible in the future to see a tool that allows to rest Knox counter?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gaww:
99.99% unlikely. They can make it look 0.0 on a rom, but it doesn't fool things like Samsung wallet.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cristiansc93:
Why wouldn't this work on a snapdragon variant?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] JasenkoP:
No offence but the answer is in your question, and in the OP.

Exynos is so differemt from Snapdragon, to compare them would be like apples and pears. Yes boths are fruits and thats where the similarities stop.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] RapsodyR55:
Succeeded

I just wanted to reply that the whole rooting proces completed successfully and till now no problems have shown up except for the setup error that had something todo with "perm_" and that's all i know

my bad that i didnt supply a log with this post [MENTION=3931450]dr.ketan[/MENTION]

i rooted the SM-G965F / DS "the european dual sim variant" on android pie

in order to make sure i had no error's/problems's did i restore the stock rom on the device like from this post : https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s9-plus/how-to/official-stock-firmware-thread-samsung-t3764479

and the funny thing is after you flash it and etc, is that i wanted to switch the oem lock as soon as i could "hopefully" so i went to the settings, enabled the developper options without logging into google or samsung but hey, the oem unlock is not there!? "i knew that because it's reported everywhere"

so then i logged into google to use the play store and etc, but at that moment it seemed to enable the oem unlock button and was i able to proceed the rooting process :D

after that moment it was all a matter of following every step [MENTION=3931450]dr.ketan[/MENTION] provided. this means that the twrp version i used was also mentioned in the post.

Till now i rebooted the device several times without problems and the Root works Flawlessly thanks to [MENTION=3931450]dr.ketan[/MENTION]
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] umbash:
g965f with MDM locked... work for my mobile?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] nic0n:
how can fix the RMM STATE PRENORMAL?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Use the search!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] joe535:
My s9+ remains in prenormal.. I see oem unlock, it is active. In the status page of Android, the state is official... No chance to flash twrp.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] nic0n:
i did it but don´t work.

same for me

i'm waiting many days and still can't flash twrp
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] joe535:
Where did you buy the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] nic0n:
I didn't buy it in an operator store.

CSC : XEU

country: UK&IRE /GB

any idea?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] joe535:
Unfortunately not.. But I just like to find out if there are any parallels... I bought mine from the UK as well. It is a blue model with 256 GB, which is not available in the EU market. I found out, that it is a Singapore-model...

CPU is Exynos so actually it should not be a problem.. First, I even did never see the OEM unlock, althoug I followed the insctrucions of the threads here....

Then, I flashed the December update, branded (Austrian A1). I suddenly found the OEM unlock and activated. The phone had to reboot. So far so good.. I thought "YES, one more week to wait until I can flash TWRP"...

3 weeks have passed - no fu....g way to flash TWRP... Only official binaries are allowed to flash...

I assume that there are some phones in the market which cannot be customized this way..

A pity... As I said many times, this was the last phone I bought from Samsung..
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] revtech101:
Here is what I did:

I had made a change to the csc(Tmobile) and I had also put in a custom rom from TekHD to have Tmobile calling features. My Bootloader unlock toggle disapeared with that rom. I tried to flash roms but my prenormal state would not let me switch roms. I didn't understand this because I still had TWRP in my recovery?

To make my oem bootloader unlock option to appear again, I switched back my csc to the original via realterm and a combination firmaware. Then I flashed the latest OEM firmware via Odin.

My OEM Bootloader unlock option appeared right back.

Particulars:

G965F/DS

Orignal CSC is XSG

Made in Vietnam
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] joe535:
So you already did successfully flash TWRP once? I even could not do that. No matter if I wait 168 hours or 168 days, the state does not change from prenormal..

Now I am using a Vodafone SIM, see what happens...:rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] revtech101:
Yes I did flash TWRP again.

You have to put your S9+ back to stock to get boot loader unlock toggle
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ashyx:
When it rebooted after enabling OEM_UNLOCK you should have intercepted it by holding the buttons and forcing boot to Download mode.

Not only would this prevent data from being wiped but should have allowed twrp to be installed along with RMM bypass.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] joe535:
I actually did as described, thats why I am so :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

So, shall I disable OEM unlock again, wait 7 days and then re-enable ?

I am actually tired of waiting 7 days, because I have been waiting more than I used my phone.

And 800 Euro for not using it, is a waste of money.

As I already wrote, the OEM unlock NEVER appeared with the original firmware .

After flashing thze December Firmware, I saw it the first time, and after activation I booted into download-mode and tried to flash TWRP first. Did not work either...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] albertoduqe:
I apologize for the maybe not so polite question but: what is the use of root with one kernel (no idea if it is updated) and zero custom roms? ?

Thanks for the work to everyone involved in this, of course.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bdwilk:
Well there's several "custom" stock ROMs available and some Oreo ROMs and even a couple pie ROMs but mostly it's for control over stock OneUI. I'm on UltimateROM which is a custom stock ROM and it has some useful custom features that in addition to the OneUI features makes it more fun than some AOSP ROMs on my 5t. Root enabled apps like TiBU and magisk modules like V4A and substratum can only be used with unlocked bootloader and root.

These are just a few reasons why I choose to root my s9+.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] albertoduqe:
Ok thanks!!!

Been using xiaomi devices for a while and the development for s9+ with exinos looked so barren in comparison :P

If I may ask: where are those roms? I can't find them here at xda... probably don't know how to look for them...

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Ok I see now most of them might be in the cross device threads, that belong to the S9 subforum...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ashyx:
Well Tbh if you need to ask that question then you don't need it. :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] albertoduqe:
Yeah you probably right

Still wondering what you might mean with "you don't it" though :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] fares70:
Maybe You should take a look at the S9_S9+ Cross Device Development Forum , there are quite a lot Custom Roms and Kernels .
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] albertoduqe:
Yeah that's what I found out after posting.

Sorry for the bother guys...

Thanks!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ashyx:
'need'
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] revtech101:
Does your CSC match your Original CSC?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] joe535:
I am sure that not, because it is a Singapore model. And off course I do not have a SIM form Singapore.

And I did not plan vacation there :D

So my phone is lost, isnt it??
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gaww:
If you haven't messed with it recently, go to Download mode and see if locks are off and if prenormal is showing.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] joe535:
Yes, it is exactly as you described.

PRENORMAL

OFF

OFF

AND OEM-unlock is visible and activated in the developer-options.

So, what is the correct way which is 100% working?

Just wait 7 more days with phone on?

Please notice that I have a debranded formware installed:

PDA/AP Version G965FXXU2CSB3

CSC Version G965FOXM2CSB3

MODEM/CP Version G965FXXU2CSB3

Region DBT — Germany

Build Date 2019-02-08

So, do I need to flash a branded Firmware (VF2) in my case? Then wait 7 days?

Or Shall I toggle the OEM-unlock twice? Or toggle once, wait 7 days, toggle again and

wait another 7 days??

You see, there are a lot of possibilities to fail, but only one to succeed.. So who knows what is the

correct way??
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lukjod:
How to update to newer firmware? Do I have to repeat procedure? To save all data only way is to use titanium backup or this can be done any easier?

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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Nanaassuman:
Is this method working for the latest firmware update
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gaww:
Don't mess with locks - prenormal is the problem now. I would use your phone as normal so Samsung will be able to remove it after 7 days. Do not update with ODIN or factory reset or it will reset the 7 day clock.

If you are lucky and prenormal disappears in 7 days, backup it up with smart switch and then ODIN TWRP. Follow directions for that, which will wipe your data, so that's why the backup.

If prenormal won't go away in 7, go back to square 1 and follow instructions of this thread. You might first ODIN updated firmware first then.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] revtech101:
That's your problem right there. Your CSC has to be original! Your firmware must be from the appropriate group of Firmwares. In this G965F forum, that would be any of the global roms.

You don't need a sim at all to unlock bootloader.

I unlock Exynos Galaxy S9 plus bootloaders at my WILL. No waiting 7 days. Not even waiting 15mins before I twrp it.

Singapore (XSP)

Singapore (MM1)

Singapore (SingTel) (SIN)

Singapore (StarHub) (STH)

Go to tekhd.com and read about how to uninstall his detonator. It has specific instructions to reverse your CSC properly. Once you do that correctly, your bootloader will appear under developer options.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] joe535:
Okay, will give it a try... Now I am running the German DBT version. Will keep it for a week and see how it works. If not lucky, I will flash the Vodafone CSC, disable OEM unlock, wait 7 days, enable OEM unlock, wait another 7 days..

See how many years it will take :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gaww:
You can eliminate the last 7 days if when you unlock again and it asks to factory reset, do so but don't let it complete - go to download mode right after it starts.

If prenormal is gone, you are ready to go.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] albertoduqe:
Hello everyone.

Thanks for the tutorial and the support first of all!

I've been trying to connect to Odin for two days with no luck :P and I've read and tried all kinds of stuff I found online to no avail. So any hint will be greatly appreciated.

The device is G965F. The computer is windows 10.

Device is properly detected on charge and mtp modes and adb works when usb debugging is enabled. Odin detects it in all those situations. I installed and set up SmartSwitch, uninstalled it, installed again, installed samsung adb drivers on their own... no use.

When on download mode neither Windows nor Odin detects anything. I went over device manager in windows several times, no related driver si there when on download.

So well as I said any hint will be nice :)

Thanks in advance!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] j0ewhite:
Hi guys, need a hint on what I should do for below:

I am on Oreo rooted S9+.

What do I need to do to update to Pie?

Flash Pie rom using Odin (lose root) and re-root?

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Nanaassuman:
Yes
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Ogy77:
One question,I have s9+ CSB9 fw not rooted device amd have oem options turn off when I want turn on device want restart factory?Is this ok?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gaww:
No !! Just clean flash Pie.

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When factory restart starts, go straight to download mode and flash TWRP.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] albertoduqe:
Nobody?? :(
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gaww:
Never had any such problems and possibly no one else has either. ODIN is normally always working on Window.

Try another computer to see if it is the phone or computer.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] albertoduqe:
OK I was going into I don't know what it is called, the other mode, pushing volume up instead of down LOL

Sorry for the stupidity... Already changed CSC and flashed latest firmware :)

THANKS!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gaww:
Volume up is for recovery, which you didn't have. Good luck .
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] albertoduqe:
Yeah it seems I will need it at this rate :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] joe535:
Does it make sense to switch off OEM-unlock and reset the phone?

Then restart the 2x7 days procedure from scratch?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] gaww:
This has been written a thousand time.

Reset, but immediately go into Download mode. If you don't see prenormal, you are done - just ODIN TWRP and proceed from there.

If prenormal on, 7 days.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Nunezgerardo65:
Dgr4
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ashyx:
Correct.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] joe535:
Well, it has not been written exactly 1000 times :victory:...

When (if} I succeed one day, I will write a kind of state diagram..
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Aquajd:
SO i have followed the instructions - progressing through the patch and my phone is bricked - phone screen went black and dull vibration when using the power button. Cannot load into download mode or restart the phone. Also the OEM patch stated my device (an S9+) was a note 8 if that means anything.

Any advice?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] revtech101:
Unplug phone from PC.

Put phone into download mode. Leave it download mode. Be sure you pressured volume up to ALLOW for download.

Connect phone to PC and let it update drivers. It will need a whole different set of drivers for Download mode. Have patience.

AFTER the PC has updated its drivers, open Odin.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Wesley_NL:
So im still 8.0 but i want to go 9.0 , but thing is im afraid i cannot root back, looks more complicated, and i dont want to brick my device, so is it safe to root pie ? And can i revert if i can not get it done ?

I see this tread dont use magiks to root ?

I have sm g965f exynos ver

Its just i need root for full backups and adaway , custom roms well , they arnt rly that great lately, random reboots , some stuf dont work exc... i use offical rom rooted
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bdwilk:
The "custom" stock roms like Ultimate, LightROM, and Devsbase are kept up to date so my advice is just to use those and then all your worries are gone.