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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
I had a massive battery drain the first hours after the update, but it was only in the first couple of hours and stopped after i charged it full for the first time with 8.1.

Do you follow other threads for other HTC Phones? No Device gets updates each month except for ours. The U11 is still on november 2017 security patch and the u11+ is on december 2017. Both dont have 8.1. Additional to that the u11 grilled a lot of sim cards after the update to 8.0 and HTC isnt able to fix that. In the last half year nothing worked like it should at HTC. Porpably moversi left the sinking ship just in the right time.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] daYMAN007:
Today i got the update for 8.1 (May Security update). I'm kinda pissed about how long they took for this update
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Yep, battery drain is gone here as well. As I thought it was more likely a battery calibration issue.

Ok, have to admit, I didn't follow the other HTC threads, but on the other side there is a big difference between our phones and the u11+ and u11. Ours is Android one and there entitled to get further updates. But HTC still is kinda slow in updating. To be fair, I have no comparison to other Android One phones, so I can't say, how fast they are getting updates, but could imagine, they are possibly faster. Is just a guess though.

As I have lived with earlier Smartphones that didn't get more than maybe 2 updates during 3 years of usage, I'm ok with the Update Situation with my U11 Life. Yes, could be faster than 6 weeks after Google delivering the Security Patch, but hey. Nobody said it will be a 0-Day Update thingy.

By Helloween Android P will come and then some couple of security patches and then the cycle is over and by then it's time to switch the phone anyway [emoji16]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
I was wrong concerning the battery drain. I simply didn't use it during day, so it was kinda ok, but now it's going down 1 Percent every 5 minutes maybe. That was not as bad before. I'll leave it on now, until the battery runs out, then I'll restart and will see, if something still drains the battery that much. Must be an app, as it just can't get worth with a version update [emoji34]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] street_dog:
my daughter have a xiaomi mi a1 and they are actually worse than htc with upgrades...
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Ok. Have heard, that Xiaomi is quite bad with updates but had no clue how their A1 Phones are being handled.

Well, I guess this A1 Cooperation with Google isn't yet as far as it is supposed to be. Maybe updates come faster in the future, but the Cycle with our phones probably won't change. I can live with that

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
Thats wrong, the U11 life will get the next two main android versions. It came out with Android 8 and 2 Years of OS Version Updates that means it will get minimum android version updates till winter 2019. So there will be official Android 9 and if there will be android in two years also android 10. But maybe google finished their new system in the next two years. (I dont hope so)

For your battery drain i dont have any problems and i used it a lot after the update. But i allways use magisk module to enable doze for play services and greenify. Also i disabled most of the "bloatware". Going to make a new "magisk rom" for Android 8.1 in the next days but i will change the name of my module with the next release.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
It was 2 yrs in the beginning announced b Google, then mysteriously HTC said only 18 Month and that's what I was referring to, but as of now this timespan seems to have gone and 2 yrs is the overall given Time for System Updates.

Then I'm with you, that we will hit Android Q aka 10 as well [emoji4]

Battery drain: updated Chrome, but didn't seem to do it. Then all of a sudden it showed "phone is used as USB-Device" or similar. That message comes up, when it's plugged in, but it wasn't [emoji15]

Restarted it. Still it showed 6+ hrs time left, although it was only 40min from full loading.

Deactivated Chrome as it was still showing the most usage.

With Firefox Beta it seems to have normalized. Having 10 hrs time left and increasing.

What still is weird, that the "Time since last full recharge" is gone and there is only "22 days" as seen on the screenshot. Using German language, but shouldn't be an issue.

Will try my forthcoming with FF. I prefer that one anyway if it wasn't so slow on Android. [emoji19]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] NexusMT:
Firefox with uBlock rocks dude. Actually blocking ads compensate a bit for the worse performance in Android.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
I started a new discussion thread over here https://xdaforums.com/u11-life/how-to/u11-life-android-one-discussion-thread-t3801309

better use this thread just for the update and update delay related things and post problems and thoughts and everything else in the new thread. Will keep it much more clean everywhere.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace the Firefist:
June Update ist rolling out
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] yano213:
Hope they start a new beginning for the update ! And we will have P soon too !
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Anyone else got new security update ? Im still running May's ? Many Thanks
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
You should be able to Update to june Update. Its available since 29.06.

Would be great if we would get july Update in the next week
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
What do u mean 'should be able ...'

Im waiting for OTA as I havent received the notification that gives me the option
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
July update is available now

HTC is getting much better in terms of quick updates in the last months.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Disagree, in the sense that they skipped June's update totally for me, didnt get it. Got July's. Did others get Junes security update ?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
You and everybody else who didnt get the ota notification could have allways Updated with one of the other methods. The files are available since second Day after june Update was published. At least with the full Firmware and Software file you could have made the Update and thats available for about 1,5 - 2 weeks now. All you need to do is care enough to read.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] AlanFla700:
Yes I received the June and July update without any problem.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace the Firefist:
Same here.

But they still haven't fixed the 0 Byte SD Card Bug.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
I read but again I will disagree. OTA notification should be displayed to the user and we should not be forced to go and look for it !!!
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Where is my PIE ???? :)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
Wrong thread, its not delayed yet. HTC has 2 months time to bring P to our device, thats what google published this morning related to android one devices and the P update.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Haha, u take life far too seriously my dear. The comment was meant to be a tongue in cheek one. Hence, Wheres my PIE !!!

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Im curious, where do u get "HTC has 2 months time to bring P to our device" from ? Is this from HTC website somewhere ?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
Sad if this is your life, but no wait...this is a developer forum... and everybody knows asking for eta is forbidden here even if its just a joke. Just imagine the flod of posts if in every device forum just one person asks for an eta for p. That would be several thousand new useless posts.

Yeah sure u r right google publishes its stuff on htcs webside ;p
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Asking for eta is forbidden? Since when? Having said that I didnt ask for an ETA but u chose to give one of 2 months. Im interested in that one. Have u got a link on HTC website or something ? Many thanks
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
So, tweeted Urbanstrata for an estimate on PIE for our devices, lets see. Has worked for me previously. Excited...... :)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Thanks Dude :D
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
I´m starting to get angry about HTC again. Well they improved their release of security updates a little bit in the last months. But now Nokia (HMD Global) and Xiaomi are showing whats possible with Android One, for both Companys it just took 24 hours after google published the Patches to realease August 2018 Security Patch to their Android One Devices. Its the 20.08. now and we still didnt get it. The rule from Google for the release time of security patches for Android One Devices is "It can take UP-TO 14 Days" 08-2018 Security Patch was published on 06.08.2018 that means today is the last day. And we shouldnt forget that the companys getting the patches a month earlier from google so they have a whole month to test it.

I just had a very strange Live Chat with HTC Support Germany. The guy "Adam" told me that HTC doesnt have any Software Support and they dont publish any Software Updates and he doesnt know more. xD I asked him if he works for HTC or any kind of third party Call-Center but didnt get an answer to this.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
I guess it would show this Week.

But i think with no Android P this Time :)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Damn Wrong , New guess this Week ? :D
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
The only apology i could accept would be if Android 9 Update would come this week. Everything else is just ridiculous
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
I wish , so maybe a delay is Good this Time :)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] Itognito:
Agree, but would that be more ridiculous than the whole update schedule for the u11-life till now.

If I remember correctly, I read that Nokia announced that the first A1 phone from Nokia will get the pie update in September. I guess we won't get the update for the u11 life earlier and therefore not this week. Actually I doubt we'll see it in September. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Maybe the rumored release of the U12 life a1 will strengthen their efforts to deliver updates on time.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
Sad to see what happens to HTC in the last weeks on social media channels like twi... or faceb... and so on. They were able to make their customers so angry that nearly every post from official HTC account get instantly hate posts by a lot of users asking where are the updates and why they are still selling devices and so on. If you look at this company and how it went in the last two years for them and you look at the official numbers what they made in the last quarter or first quarter 2018 or in 2017... Its sad but i think we will see the last HTC device in 2019 if there will be anything new after the u12 line at all. BUT and yes that has to be a big BUT... They deserve this, HTC never listen to what their customers want or need. The slogan is true and they develop briliant stuff but its not all about inovations in hardware there is other stuff that also matters and HTC never cared about that. HTC does not even care about googles rules for android or the GPL or anything else, why should they care for their customers. The U11 life was my last HTC after 7 Years only HTC and due to the fact that HTC is nearly dead it would be a big mistake to buy HTC devices anymore. Yes i know that could cause them to die quicker but why should anyone buy devices from a company that doesnt give a **** about you after you paid for the device? Today HTC is just a bad joke compared to HTC 3 years ago and even 3 years ago they didnt care about updates and stuff their customers want. But now after they had to fire 30% of their employees, the PR chef left the company and a lot of managers too it looks like they dont even care about this hard reactions they get on social media plattforms from their customers.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Sry for Offtopic : U12 Life not in Android One Programm? Is this a Joke?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Surely according to urself we need to wait up to 2 months ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by saturday_night

Wrong thread, its not delayed yet. HTC has 2 months time to bring P to our device, thats what google published this morning related to android one devices and the P update.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
Do you even read anything or just write some unrelated stuff?!? The problem i am talking about and most others too are security patches updates, not version updates. Btw you are on my block list for a long time but that doesnt prevent from notifications of mentions or quotes, so pls stop writing my nick or quoting me.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Its an Open forum and im not trying to annoy you, You replied to my original message if you track back. Also, u mention in your quote specifically Android P. Im only having a debate here, nothing personal
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Hey [MENTION=2169069]moghm[/MENTION] : urbanstrata mentioned his last day at work.

I think they skip August Update and threy release Sept. Update with Android Pie?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
August security patch just arrived, a month too late

59.1MB
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Was ah "Quickie" :)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
[MENTION=1467505]Jackthe[/MENTION]riefl Thanks for that info, let me check :) Only August update available, Disappointing. It would also seem you have to go and look for it i.e. manual check, no auto alert for this one as with the last one. HTC shambles, very poor.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
If you compare timewise the monthly security updates to the one Google delivers, then you'll recognise there is an approximate difference of 4-6 Weeks.

Given that and furthermore acknowledging that a Version Update is a bit more of an effort, than a Security Update, you might (at least I did so) come to the conclusion, that the Pie Update will eventually be sent out in October, probably around Helloween. [emoji317][emoji316]

HTC has so far delivered all the security updates in the same timely manner, so Pie will reach us as well, but not today.

If that is a disappointment, what will happen with the real tough things going on in life? [emoji6]

Just saying. It will come and there is imho no point in being worried yet.

It will come, no worries.

As of the alerts. They show up, but I guess the interval of checking is a bit bigger, so it might have taken until tomorrow or so.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
[MENTION=8794152]ucomix[/MENTION] 8.0 to 8.1 was more than 6 months so october for Pie would be a good result. Dont know what u mean by

'real tough things going on in life?' ? This discussion is in context of phone updates and not life. :) There is a hope that HTC read this forum and we get results based on that. Hence, there is merit in whinging on here re: topic of thread.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
I was relying to your "disappointment" but you don't seem to be disappointed too much [emoji6]

I said October as well, so we might even get a September Security update before the Pie Update. Time will show.

HTC reading our comments?

I doubt that, but even if the did, it wouldn't affect their planned timeline.

It will come, sooner or later [emoji847]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
So over the months I have been putting a lot of pressure on HTC re: updates via facebook, twitter, etc. You would be surprised at how many companies employ people whos only job is to scour the internet in search of articles that are relevant to their products. I come from the nexus world as far back as nexus 4. What a phone all the way to nexus 5 5x, they were. The development by individuals in their ROMS from XDA often became part of official releases e.g. CRT effect when minimising screen. Im a bit spoilt from nexus 5 and 5x days where we signed up for betas and got latest updates. Im not that disappointed, you are right, just vocal . This social media platform is so powerful,can really get heard now:)

Just to add to this, dont want to blow my own trumpet. We had a major issue when stock ran out of nexus 5 within the UK. There was a big revolt between the nexus 5 buyers. We were able to contact the UK director of Google via XDA who made a promise to the guys on the forum that he would perosnally make sure that new stock was prioritised for the UK. We got our phones within days after that. Very exciting times indeed. Ill try and find that post......
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Well, I wasn't spoilt, when changing to this HTC U11 Life and had some issues with the Service Line and hencey expectations got really low.

As we have been getting our security updates all 6 weeks, I'm convinced we'll face Pie latest until end of October. If it makes it for x-mas, I'm fine with it as well. Is still all better than other Suppliers starting with "S" [emoji6]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Any News on Pie ? :)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
I used pie gsi for the first time today, nice and smooth system looking great once there is substratum theme support for it. You can read about it in the how to gsi thread, but for stock pie i think we have to wait a long time. Even if google made rules for updates/security patches HTC just ignores them since they published the u11 life android one. And i think thats also the reason why the u12 life doesnt have android one.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
I msgd on twitter, no reply. I read one plus 6 has got pie ready for its phone. So much promised by android one, so little delivered. Pixel 3 launches next month, so that maybe the fastest stock route to pie for me...

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....o-oneplus-6-and-you-can-get-it-right-now/amp/
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Its a shame for Google , others deliver faster.

So no Pie with September Update:(

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But i guess Pixel3 not be cheap , will wait for a 300€ Pixel 2 :)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
https://xdaforums.com/mi-a2-lite/help/xiaomi-provide-updates-android-one-t3838497

Look at this, seems xiaomi's update delivery going pretty well as far as security updates are concerned. No way to verify but looks like they got Septembers security update.....
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsou77:
Here it is! September security update :)

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Cool, OTA ? no prompt on my phone ill check :)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
It runs smoother since the Update ?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Not noticed any significant changes
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
So Nokia is able to follow Googles rules of 2 Months for Android One System Updates. They just finished it and they are in the final test stage now and if no problems will be found they will start the OTA for official pie in the next days. This was already delayed because they had problems with some kind of certification but even with this delay they are still within those two months. HTC support doesnt answer anything related to updates for pie except for the "timeframes will be announced in due course" like it was posted six weeks ago. Sadly HTC just doesnt announce anything until its already there and in my point of view thats the worst communication with customers one could do.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] street_dog:
but, and a big but too...you can't unlock the bootloader on nokia...
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
But Maybe we get Pie without Security Update?Does this ever happen? :)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
With "we" you mean Nokia or HTC? In the latter case we won't get Pie without Security Patches. September came this time even in September not around 5 weeks later.

HTC has improved in that case. Maybe even Pie will be sent out before Xmas [emoji28]

Nokia is getting the Security Updates as well, but have no clue how fast. Probably even faster than HTC.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
HTC cant Release Pie w/o Security Update?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Why should they do so? If you were developer, there was maybe a chance to get it earlier in the process w/o Security Patches, but there is no sense at all in sending out a new Android Version w/o Security Patches, so don't hope for it.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
This is going to change https://www.xda-developers.com/nokia-8-bootloader-unlock/
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Just to make u guys feel a bit better https://www.androidcentral.com/android-90-pie-stable-update-now-rolling-out-nokia-7-plus
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
[MENTION=2169069]moghm[/MENTION] thanks wanted to Post this also :D
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Since Nokia went back to Finland, things are getting better exponentially. Delivering their phone with Android One was the best Decision and opening the boot loader is one another great thing. I could imagine Nokia can get back to their success, before Android and Smartphones entered the Techworld. [emoji4]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
fabnapp from Twitter may know as he Posts Updates.

He is working for HTC :)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Well, I can wait for the Pie Update, but thx. I though might ask, if there were any future plans for the U11 Life in order to be able to install apps on the external card as well. That would be a nice feature [emoji4]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Ill get on it
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
You wont get that without any thirdparty apps. Google stoped that for Stock Android because it could be a vulnerability to the security of the device. There are some oems out there which still integrate it by themself for their devices but with Android One you will never see this again.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Alright. Didn't know that, as HTC just mumbled around that they had no plans, but couldn't say why it wouldn't work.

Thx

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
[MENTION=7715118]saturday_night[/MENTION] also new for me :)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Any News? ?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Lots of google apps being updated. I think we will get pie soon......
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Yes , that was some "Material Design" Updates from Google Apps.

You mean that ?