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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
Is it DBT We need to be on when the beta hits

Also I'm rooted at the moment so I will obviously need to be on the correct stock firmware but has anyone run into issues with the beta if they were previously rooted with Knox tripped?

Or to simplify it, I have heard that tripping Knox screws up ota updates permanently even if you return to stock, is this true? Or a myth lol
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
No, DBT is just one of the CSCs that the beta will be available on.

XEU (UK), XEF (France) and some others will also be included.

You have to be on the latest build available for your CSC at the time the beta is released, as for the screwing up OTA thing, it is indeed a myth. I have received OTAs with tripped KNOX, they work just fine as long as you're completely stock.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
That's awesome man cheers!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Mehdi0507:
Okay these are great news!!! Laat year DBT was included in the beta program in the second phase so I hope that DBT will be in the beta program from the beginning :D
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kapooo3:
Saw on other forums that the international version which is this just showed a Z version which is pie beta? maybe it's to start the beta program since the international versions can't be leaked?

http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/XSP/SM-G965F/version.test.xml
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Mehdi0507:
Yeah you saw this from my reddit post huh ;) I sure that this is indeed a hint that the beta program will start really really soon. Maybe tomorrow who knows?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kapooo3:
I heard not all CSC get the beta, XSP which is mine has the build in it's server so I'm getting it? maybe?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
Beta builds (ZRxx) are showing for all OXM multi-CSCs on the FOTA server, at the start, only BTU will get it, followed by DBT and perhaps XEF and INS to follow.

Other CSCs are usually not part of the program, so it's unlikely that XSP will get it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Tizen99:
Where do you have the information from that only BTU will get it first?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Mehdi0507:
The things is can't know for sure. He suggest it will be more that because of the past beta program. But maybe Samsung will launch beta directly in some more countrys I mean who knows except for Samsung itself???
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Tizen99:
Yes, the beta programm could be like the one last year, but im confident that more countries will get it from the beginning, because the first beta from Samsung for the S6 was only in UK an Korea, the second one for the S7 in UK, Korea and USA and the third one from last year for the S8 were two phases, with the first phase in UK, Korea and USA and the second phase in Germany, France, etc.

So there were year to year always more countries who can test it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Mehdi0507:
Yes that's what I think too. Samsung has recognized that it will help them more when these countries are in early enough to deliver a better software when the beta ends. Hope it starts tomorrow or on a few days so I mean in 3 days max.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] iamnotkurtcobain:
S9+ Exynos with October Base
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] darknagel:
how? Mobil data= off? what do you do in the 8H screen on? scroll on homescreen? :silly:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] denwathappened:
I'm rooted and on custom ROM. If I flash this thru odin, will I get system OTA updates for my phone? Im planning to bring this phone to stock ROM because I will switch to N9 and give my phone to my girlfriend.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
yes.

Use AP, BL, CP and CSC_OXM in this case (not the HOME_CSC_OXM!) so root gets removed (knox still is 0x1 which can not be changed back to 0x0)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] denwathappened:
Removing the root is all that matters right now, as long as this phone gets ota updates from system when I get back to stock, I'm good. Anyway, you're a big help! Thank you so much!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
both works fine if you flash a firmwarepakage that was released as an OTA Update for your active CSC.

Otherwise OTA wont work.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] denwathappened:
One question though, my device came from Saudi Arabia; CSC is KSA. But when I reset my phone while my local sim (Phililpines) is inserted, my active CSC changed to XTC which is an openline CSC for PH. Since XTC is the active and current one, should I flash firmware based on XTC?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
G965FXXU2BRJ3/G965FOXM2BRJ3/G965FXXU2BRJ1

is the lastest firmware for XTC, just use that for OTA Updates to work :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] denwathappened:
Thanks! Now, I'm pretty sure that I won't get bootlooped or anything bad that can happen when I get back to stock rom. I just have to follow the instruction on flashing stock rom, right? The only change that I will do is choosing csc_oxm instead of home_csc_oxm.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
correct
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kingdave82:
I have the October 1st security patch now, and its pretty much ballsed up Bluetooth on some critical medical devices I use.

According to the software info screen I have version G965FXXU2BRJ3 / G965FOXM2BRJ3 / G965FXXU2BRJ1.

To fix the Bluetooth problem (I really can't want around for the next update in another month) I'd want to downgrade this. Trouble is, I can't make head nor tail over which version I previously had before the October update (I am fairly confident in using Odin though so know how to flash the firmware).

Can anyone help me identify which version was previous to the one I have, and if it is indeed possible to downgrade?

Thank you
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
What's your CSC?

Knowing that would let me tell you the previous build for your region.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kingdave82:
G965FOXM2BRJ3

I'm in the UK, and bought the device SIM free, unlocked, unbranded and direct from a Samsung store.

Cheers
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
Settings > Software Information > Service Provider Information

Post the 3 CSCs it shows there.

UK includes BTU and XEU, so just want to be 100% sure.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kingdave82:
All the info under the Service Provider SW ver. section:

SAOMC_SM-G965F_OXM_BTU_OO_0038

19f5c5c611047ece

BTU/BTU/BTU
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
G965FXXS2BRI1 / G965FOXM2BRGA / G965FXXS2BRH8

This is the previous build for BTU.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kingdave82:
Thanks murtaza.

Reading your original post (or rather the second one) it says once 15th October update is installed you can't downgrade. Is that still the case? Or have I understood it incorrectly? (Basically, can I downgrade from my current version to previous?)

Also, how likely is it that my device gets completely wiped in the downgrade process?

Now just to find a site with the firmware on! Updato insists I have an ad blocker installed even though I don't and won't let me progress, and SamMobile just has me going round in circles trying to download any firmware without actually letting me do it!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
I have BRI1 hosted on AFH and MEGA, links are somewhere in the 1st or 2nd post.

The downgrade protection is for really old builds (older than August).

Basically you're already on XXU2BRJ3 and you're flashing back to XXS2BRI1. Both are v2 builds, so you're free to flash any builds with XXU2 or XXS2 prefixes.

As for not wiping data, it's not compulsory when upgrading, but it is when downgrading. You'll have to flash AP, BL, CP and CSC_OXM (which wipes internal storage).
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] denwathappened:
How can I uninstall samsung pass and secure folder app? My phone's not rooted anymore since I flash stock rom thru odin. But sinxe I trippes knox, I know for sure that those apps won't work anymore
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aminaweng14:
after install the firmware my battery life is so fast to drain .. what can i do ???
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ma_t14:
May I ask why would you return to stock rom after rooting?

As for your question, this method is the closest you can get to removing systems while unrooted as far as I know:

https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] denwathappened:
Thanks! Will try that one out. To answer your question.. I'll be shifting on Note 9 and will give my phone (S9+) to my girlfriend. I want her to still get updates from OTA instead of downloading an entire custom ROM every month just for this phone to be updated so.. going back to stock rom will solve at least that problem. I still have to work out on those apps that won't work bec I tripped my knox
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blazingnks:
my new exynos S9+ came with G965FXXU1ARCC, and I updated it to G965FXXU2BRI3 soon (OTA update).

I found that the geekbench scores on BRIE are almost the same as those on ARCC.

I am confused, becasue BRIE is much newer than ARCC.

can G965FXXU2BRI3 users share their geekbench scores?

do you find this firmware get higher or lower geekbench scores compared with your original stock firmware?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
Why should the score be different?

Performance in backbench was the same from the beginning till now.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kapooo3:
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but, when the beta comes out for Germany DBT would anyone from XDA be able to provide a odin flashable like this one? and if so could we keep flashing until in comes out in January do we need to flash back to stock?. does flashing back wipe data or knox or anything risky? thank you sorry for long question
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
With previous betas, it's uncommon to have Odin flashable ROMs, people usually get their hands on the OTA zip instead. The thing about that is that you have to be on a specific build to sideload that OTA otherwise it won't install.

If Odin flashable ROMs are leaked anywhere for any of the beta builds, I'll definitely post them here in this thread.

Flashing back to Oreo from Pie Beta WILL require a full wipe, but will NOT trip KNOX.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blazingnks:
I just want to know that whether we will get significantly different Geekbench scores when we are using different versions of official firmware.

Hence, we can find out which firmware is fastest.(I guess the Geekbench scores on newer versions of firmware would not be lower than older versions)

I heard that some firmwares would limit the CPU performance and the others would not. Does this situation happen on Exynos S9+?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
geekbench scores on all firmwares were identical on my SM-G965F.

Haven't heard anything else....

Maybe the Snapdragon Model scores could be different but I doubt that.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ratsalad:
With no disrespect, I can't see the point of performance testing, it either works and does everything you want/need it to and you're happy with it or it doesn't do what you want and you're unhappy with it then it's time to sell and find another device...

Just my opinion, no offence intended
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ptko15:
This was extremely helpful! Thank you to the OP. I need a bit of clarification however, I had a Verizon GS9 + and I flashed T-Mobile's software through Odin. Should I be getting all of the T-Mobile frequencies now? Including the new 700mhz and 600mhz?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
AFAIK, 700 MHz was enabled by default already.

Band 71 (600) is also available on all variants, and yes it should work just fine on your phone. You can use ServiceMode or something to confirm you're connected to it if you know you're in an area where T-Mobile has deployed Band 71.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ptko15:
That is what I was under the impression of. I was also under the impression that Tmobile had those frequencies in my area. But I'm not picking them up at all. Goes to show that sales reps can't know everything.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
If TMo does have B71 in your area, it's not necessary for your phone to connect to it, especially if there's a decent signal from another higher capacity band available (B4 for example).

The G965U (T-Mobile) and G965U1 (Unlocked) S9+ both support Band 71, so there's no chance that it's 'disabled' or anything. The phone chooses band preference automatically.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Edoardo001:
Just one question, i've searched around the internet and some people says that knox tripped phone wont get ota updates and some that will get. so anybody has right infomation about it?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
Knox 1 with stock unchanged Firmware + right firmware package version for your active CSC will get OTA updates.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
hs anyone been able yet to download the new firmware from today?

G965FXXS2BRJ6

is aviable for DBT and NEE and possibly some more.... but SmartSwitch and SamFirm both are stuck at about 13% with only 0,5Mbit Speed.

Sammobile has the firmware already but also only about 3 Mbit (as free user) updatohas it not yet....
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
I'll have mirrors up ASAP.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Edoardo001:
Thanks, i will search for a guide to do that
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Tizen99:
It isn't available OTA yet, right? Because there is nothing on my DBT S9+.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
G965FXXS2BRJ6 download links:

AFH

MEGA
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
It's only on SamFirm for many European CSCs.

This sort of situation is uncommon for it to be released as a full FW, but not be available as a FOTA package.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
This has happened before with s9. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Tizen99:
The OTA update is now out for DBT.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Hellrazoraj:
Is this the new oneui update?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] KoRoZIV:
No
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
Tue Beta Starts possibly in 15. november first.

One UI should come in January 2019.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] henklbr:
Just confirmed, [MENTION=1572395]maik005[/MENTION]
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blazingnks:
have you run Geekbench on the latest official firmware? (e.g. S2BRJ6 / U2BRJ3...)

The scores were still identical to those on the origanal (initial) old firmware?:confused:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
yes, today.

Exynos S9+

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/10833048

3760 / 8923

original mesaured from geekbench Team(?)

https://browser.geekbench.com/android_devices/390
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Segamalaga:
Please, let me ask you something:

Is this rom DTB CSC?

Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
I believe you mean DBT (Germany), then yes, it is.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] brouwerchris:
New PHN : OTA and on Samfirm :

XXU2BRJ8 / BRJ4 / BRJ4

Build date 20181108
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] nicholas64:
I just flashed new PHN firmware and intelligent scan unlock is now much faster
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cyberon:
Maybe this is the reason Pie was delayed, something wrong with BRJ6?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
Nope, Samsung likes to release different builds for the same thing lol.

Note 9 got two November patches, ARK2 and ARK3, exactly the same build just compiled slightly a few hours apart.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
AP: G965FXXU2BRJ8

Baseband: G965FXXU2BRJ4

CSC: G965FOXM2BRJ4

Since it doesn't seem like a significant update over BRJ6, I won't update the OP unless this becomes the more common build which seems unlikely based on how many countries have already received BRJ6. I will upload it to AFH and MEGA however, always good to have reliable download mirrors.

BRJ8 download links:

AFH

MEGA
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] iamnotkurtcobain:
Which CSC?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
PHN (Netherlands)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cyberon:
Also with the beta coming we have no idea in which build we should be to be able to update.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
Just be on the latest possible build for your CSC, being on any other build will not allow you to take the beta OTA.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cyberon:
What I mean is "if" the beta gets released today being on this build might not be a good idea because it isn't released on DBT yet.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
Ah yes now I understand what you mean.

Yeah you're right, if you're planning on joining the beta and you're on DBT, you should only and only be running BRJ6.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kapooo3:
I'm on BJR6 Flashed from this forum, and it came out for my CSC, if I flash back to my original CSC will I lose data?

The whole purpose is because my phone is from Singapore XSP and I live in the US. If I flashed back to original will I get the beta since I'm in US and have US sim card? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
No, the beta in the US is only available for G965U. Not for the F variants.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blazingnks:
thanks for sharing.

BTW, which firmware were you using when you got this result? and what's the CSC of that firmware?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maik005:
brj6.

Dbt.

S9+
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Notstewie:
Thank you for this. awesome
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Jidhin George:
What is your experience in battery? Does it drain faster now?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
So the beta OTA for DBT (Germany) seems to be live with the following build:

G965FXXU2ZRKA / G965FOXM2ZRK9 / G965FXXU2ZRK9
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winxuser:
Has anyone been able to capture a link or gotten the update.zip to share with everyone
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
I'm trying to see if I can get my hands on it, will definitely upload it to AFH and MEGA and then share it here.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winxuser:
Awesome. I'm using dbt firmware at the moment. But I'm in Australia so I couldn't download it anyway
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
Pie Beta 1 OTA update.zip for Exynos S9+ (SM-G965F)

You MUST be on XXS2BRJ6 to sideload this OTA file.

Download links:

MEGA

AFH
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] stickydonkey:
Thank you OP. Have you installed this?

Just to be clear, copy the ZIP to an SD Card, reboot phone to recovery and update from SD card, done?

Does anyone know if this will Wipe? I assume not.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
I haven't installed this personally since I switched to a Note 9.

As for the installation, I don't use the SDCard method since I'm not entirely sure if it works. I just use ADB to sideload the file, takes a while, but it works just fine.

Put the OTA file in your ADB platform tools directory and run:

adb sideload *filename.zip*

You'll see progress on the log in recovery mode on your phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kapooo3:
Have some question OP, 1-It does not wipe data if we sideload right? 2-And do we have to keep doing the same process everytime a new beta comes out? 3- when the official P comes out in January and you post it in this fourm do we have to do a wipe? 4- Knox? And it's stuff like source folder will still be working?. So sorry for asking a lot but thank you
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
1) Correct. Sideload does not wipe data. Always recommended to make a backup just in case.

2) Yes, betas are always posted as OTA zips since Odin flashable builds aren't available to the public.

3) You don't have to, but I will recommend it.

4) KNOX can not be tripped with OTAs. If you're worried, keep OEM Unlock disabled, that way no file that isn't signed by Samsung will actually flash.

Secure Folder should work because KNOX isn't tripped. If for any reason it doesn't work, it's probably due to a bug in the beta.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Isovitisgr:
OP what about the firmware XXU2BRJ8? I have this one installed in my phone, can I sideload this beta?

If not, can I go back to the firmware you suggested before I sideload the beta?

Thanks, and sorry if my question is noob...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
Since OTAs are only partial updates and not the full ROM, you have to be on specific builds to take them.

In this case, it's BRJ6. Yes you can flash back to BRJ6 and then sideload the OTA.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] stickydonkey:
Worked flawlessly. I used the SD Card method. It didn't wipe and i'm on a South African ROM.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winxuser:
Hmmmm pie. I love pie
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LaurynasVP:
Can I download it to the root directory of my phone and then flash it using recovery *stock without getting anything wiped etc?

I mean, would it work if I would flash it on my version downloaded it using my phone, not using adb?

Thanks in advance!

Pic: https://imgur.com/a/9iUWptr

Edit: nope, had to use side load method
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shawnaye:
you guys used this method?

copy the ZIP to an SD Card, reboot phone to recovery and update from SD card.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winxuser:
No I don't have a sd card. I had to use adb
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
Installed perfectly with sd method on xeu

Also accidentally brought a theme over to pie but all seems good ??
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shawnaye:
nvm. got it to work! updating now.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aj7400:
How much exchange price did u pay to upgrade to a note 9?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MeltdownSpectre:
Way higher than I should have paid since my S9+ was badly scratched.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aj7400:
Did u find any diference in performance compared to s9?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Harthouse:
I am on XXU2BRJ8 (before XXS2BRJ6). May I flash this Pie OTA, or must reflash XXS2BRJ6 first?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] KoRoZIV:
You need brj6 in order to sideload. You can try if you want but it will not work.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Incarniac:
I've not tried to sideload a beta before, quick question: Can you flash e.g. back to Oreo (BRJ6/BRJ8) via Odin from the Pie beta without losing data (using HOME_CSC) if you wanted to, i.e. without losing data? (aside from the fact backups should be done)