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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] MelquiXDA:
I'm waiting BRE5 update for Sanpdragon processor!!! (Brazil)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] vishnu8058:
The much awaited BRE5 update has come for the Indian S9+ model..will report the result after the update.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] bassgenerator:
I downloaded the Alien Covenant and made a sreen where you described the problem. after updating today it looks like this

BRE5

I apologize for the poor quality of the camera older than 6 years.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ah1giwrmhBKqhkkN35XUCwpbb3xe
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] JohnMorts:
Currently updating software...hehe..try mo na
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] cdneto:
Me either, buddy.....I hope we don't need to wait too long time as usual (like end of June) :p
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] JohnMorts:
Everyone, color banding and black crush fix are CONFIRMED!!! on latest OTA Update BRE5 .

Felt satisfied ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
S9

Is the update really fixing? I am in portugal still waiting for the update, hopping it fixes it. But every single s9 has it? Mine is the non plus
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Chirag22ster:
The black crush issue is resoled. I just updated my phone to BRE3. The hacksaw ridge video looks much much better now. I can see the faces of the actors clearly. Lol
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] s0nixx:
Yes update fixed it. And yes every s9+ i looked at had black crush
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] DemonSoul:
download it yourself? LOL i refunded this mobile day 1 that's why i asked some one to confirm it.

Thanks to the ones that replied, now lets see if i get again the s9+ or i just wait for the next flagship

Thanks! Way better than before sweet jesus
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
What movie is that, and the exact time?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Huey85:
He said what movie it was.. Alien Convenant
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
the exact time of the foot with the eggs?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] v_square:
Indian unit got an update yesterday. And NO. IT DOESN'T FIXES ANYTHING.

Before installing the update I observed a lot of things :

1. Color banding when you press and hold the power button on home screen. Ugly as hell.

2. Watched the hacksaw video in a lot of different lighting conditions at 1080p. Sky looks torn in every frame. Helmets look pixelated. Hairs and face are a blob during many frames.

After installing: Everything is #ucking same. Everything.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] bassgenerator:
Now my galaxy is missing. Videos with a black background are now good
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Jelyn:
Done uploading!!! Hahahaha now im inloveeee :))
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] i.m.Shaan:
I have installed that BRE5 update yesterday, in my case colour blending issue is almost gone... :)

Tested with below trailers from youtube.

When we first met

Black Panther
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] v_square:
Hey it's 'color banding '.

On a side note, try Hacksaw ridge cutscene. Or, set blue infinity wallpaper. Go to home screen and hold power button. Look at the background.

Report your findings here.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] bassgenerator:
I have tried but I do not see any such problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] anuveersandhu:
After Latest BRE5 Update on S9 plus (India) I'm still having issue. When we long press on home screen and then drop notification panel up & down , then bottom right area of screen gets distorted. Don't know if it's issue with wallpaper or Display , can anyone confirm ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] i.m.Shaan:
Ya banding. Its a typo.

I checked the infinity wallpaper in dark room with 5 to 10% screen brightness, holding power button... there no issue.

Didn't try hacksaw, will try today and update you.

Could you provide me the link of that video.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
I had someone check out the sky on a s7 and it was the same it's was pixilated and colouring was odd.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] i.m.Shaan:
What is the manufacture month of your device?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] shaggyskunk:
Where can you find the month of manufacture on the S9+?

Sent from my SM-G965W ??
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] i.m.Shaan:
Use Phone INFO app.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Kostasl88:
BRE5 update just received. Black crushing fixed.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
how about banding ? I only notice it on wallpaper if set brightness above 75% in low light
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Kostasl88:
Banding was always an issue with every amoled device that I've owned. Still present but much less.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Flash701:
Has spotty WiFi been an issue for anyone else since BRE5?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] anuveersandhu:
March 2018
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Rushmed:
+1 Dark scenes look much better on BRE5
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] shaggyskunk:
My S9+ was manufactured April 19th - Still on the February Security Patch - But I'm really not seeing much (if any) difference in the display between my S8+ and the S9+... fwiw ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] i.m.Shaan:
So u didn't face any color banding issue ?

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My device is also of same manufacture month, BRE5 update worked for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
BRE5 Did nothing to me...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] shaggyskunk:
Not that I really noticed - I can't really see any difference between the S8+ & the S9+ Maybe I'm just not trying to create the circumstances where it becomes evident? ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Unknown4101:
Hi. U got unlocked version or carrier? Im from greece aswell and havent received anything yet
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
Not understanding why some are fixed and some are not. Unless people have never seen problems that amoled suffer from and after the black crush problems people are noticing them ? Have you checked the video with the foot and eggs and that's a great test to compare think the image is on page 2 to compare
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
I've tested withy everything on page 2 and it still looks like crap...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
Could you put a picture on here please ? Before the update on mine the foot and eggs looked like the bad one and after the update it's like the good one.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
send me the link and the timing for the eggs one, that one i didnt test yed
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] i.m.Shaan:
Search 'alien covenant' in youtube, its a trailer.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
ok in that one its cool but in the hacksaw ridge it sucks still
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
I think hacksaw ridge is just one of them films that will always look bad. Maybe worth trying to test another amoled phone out. Looks poor on mine also but everything else looks alot better.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
Yeah the egg one is better.. but the the blacks still drag a bit in the apps icon wile scrolling
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] th.android:
I also confirm BRE3 fixed the black crush for me. Turned out to be a software problem indeed.

I hope other users get the update soon and hopefully it works for them too.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Huey85:
Yep definitely fixed to an extent. This was taken of my personal S9+ with BRE5 installed, using my work S9. Alien Convenant trailer @ 1080p scene @ 00:43.

Also tried the hacksaw ridge "one more" clip as well, definitely much better colour output and no crushing of blacks. Tried to take photos of it too but because the scenes are waaaaay too dark it makes it impossible for the camera to really pick up how it actually looks on the screen.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Virgo_Guy:
Bud,

I think the update actually resolved the color banding/black crush to a great extent. But certainly hasnt fixed entirely, like the way you have pointed out about Hacksaw Ridge where its more prominent. But I remember my earlier S8 plus having similar (as in GS9+ after the BRE5 update).
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Huey85:
Totally agree here. Hacksaw ridge, prior to the BRE5 update was utterly unwatchable. But now I can actually watch it without all the black smearing and colour banding! Very happy. Hopefully they will continue to tweak the colour, brightness, gamma and contrast profiles over time.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Craphead:
Then that's because you did not receive the correct update yet which is BRE5!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] nudawa:
the issue is fixed with latest update (BRE5) on Exynos version
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] ssj100:
Finally updated to BRE and the banding issue is much improved. It's essentially back to what the S7 looked like, so at least this is one less inferior aspect of the S9+ for me now! Personally I never watch much video on my phone, so wasn't as affected as many others here. There are probably literally millions of people out there who are so pleased about this!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
I updated to BRE5 and i am still thinking its not okay at all but in the alien convenant its okay, black panther still looks bad, hacksaw ridge awful etc.. S9 non plus here
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
I keep thinking the same with certain clips but the only way to tell is try out another phone with a amoled dispay. I'm thinking are alot of us noticing things that we never did before ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
In mine are definitely not fixed, looks like before and like some examples of not fixed.. blacks look like green and way to grainy I really dont know what I should do...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
S2

some 4k test videos I've watched on YouTube look alot better then I look at black panther and some scenes look great and some look awful still. I think to some extent it's been fixed and covered but in certain films it still shows its self.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
yeah idk if i should send it to fixing center from samsung or what....
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] shaggyskunk:
I'm thinking that all lot of people are deliberately hunting for display issues - I honestly don't see any difference between my S8+ & S9+ and I haven't received any updates yet (still on February Security Patch) ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Craphead:
And I'm thinking that you obviously don't know what you're talking about. That there is no noticable difference between your S8 and 9 does not mean that everything is okay, maybe you just don't know what to look for? The issues we are talking about are mostly only noticable in a dark environment and in scenes with lots of black and grey colours. But if that is the case the effects of the issue are so immense it is impossible to notice them, it make certain scenes literally unwatchable. So it is by far not just people deliberately looking for issues, this thing is (or luckily WAS) huge!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] shaggyskunk:
I'm thinking that you obviously think that everyone uses their phones in the same way - I'm not watching videos in a dark environment with lots of black and grey colours...

But I appreciate your telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about.. I haven't been accused of that too often.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] ssj100:
To be fair, at least he used good logic and justifications, unlike some posters on this forum (in other threads). However, he could/should have been more polite for sure hehe.

To be honest, I didn't actually notice any issues either initially, until I started watching scenes that were dark in a dark environment (and even then, it's only certain variations of such scenes that show it significantly). Interestingly, there was one poster (in this thread?) that actually posted evidence that they didn't have any issues with this banding. However, the fact that this BRE5 update seems to improve things drastically pretty much confirms/confirmed the existence of the issue. It does make me wonder why/how that specific user didn't have this issue though.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Craphead:
No, I could and should NOT have been more polite. It is one thing to say that you haven't noticed any issues (which like I said does not mean there aren't any), but it's something completely different to then jump to the conclusion that all the other people in an almost-100-pages-thread gotta be basically just making stuff up or are trying to see problems where there aren't any. ESPECIALLY when clearly one hasn't even been properly reading in on the subject because otherwise one would've known what to look for and under what circumstances the issue becomes apparent. So if you a) haven't even taken the time to actually fathom what the issue really is but then b) still feel like you have to tell people they're just making waves about sth that's not even really there while it clearly IS and has been PROVEN over and over again ITT then you're basically asking for impolite responses IMHO.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Huey85:
Come on guys let's get back on point here.. maybe the OP should include a poll in the initial post to see if people's black crush and banding issues have been improved (I didn't say fixed because it's definitely not fixed, just dramatically improved)...?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Chris_c81:
Couldn't add a poll to this, but created one here:

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/bre5-update-fixed-black-crush-banding-t3798630
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
It's alot better now but there are definitely scenes that still show it, clips from the same film will vary from dark scenes that look great to others still having the problem not sure why tho. I used to have the s8 plus and used it alot in low lighting and never noticed anything like this and that goes for the s7 also. It's noticeable due to the black blocky blobs that make up dark areas like in people's hair or clothing.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] ConnyHedgehog:
There is a huge difference between the S9+ screens. Some people have showed (before the update) with picture evidence that they did not have the issue at all. Maybe you got lucky and got a screen without any issues?

When I got my first S9+ I started it up and immediately when it got to the home screen with the default wallpaper I could see extreme banding. Literally everyone with functioning eyes would have been able to see those bands. I was not "hunting for display issues", it was right there and impossible to not notice. (and of course with dark videos it was even more noticeable).

EDIT: As I've said before in the thread, the update solved the problem by maybe 80-90%. It is still visible in some scenarios, but the screen is so much better :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] ssj100:
I actually forgot to check the wallpaper banding after the update (as I'm using a wallpaper where the banding issue isn't noticeable) - it's resolved! Just out of curiosity, can you link a specific video where the banding is still noticeable?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] ConnyHedgehog:
Sure, as I said the screen is much better now but you can still see it in some videos which have already been linked several times before in this thread :)

If I compare these videos to my old Z3 compact and my IPS computer screen the banding is a little bit more noticeable on my S9+.

Hacksaw Ridge - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pBEnaBYwFI

Black panther - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjDjIWPwcPU

Deadpool 2 trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20bpjtCbCz0

You can also see the color banding in games like Monument Valley 2, but it's waaaaaay better than before the update :) (Before the update, and especially with my first S9+, this game was unplayable because it looked like garbage)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] ssj100:
Thanks, but to be honest, I'm not noticing it really. Before the update, the Black panther trailer was certainly quite bad, but it's effectively resolved for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] shaggyskunk:
Well I just watched the Deadpool trailer on my S9+ and it looks perfectly fine.

When I first Booted the phone I certainly didn't notice anything odd with the home screen default wallpaper.

I think that my comment "people hunting for display issues" has been taken out of context & my meaning by some. I'm not saying that the "black crush" & colour banding is / wasn't an issue & Samsung confirmed the issue (depending on whether or not the update resolved the issue for you) I was saying that not everyone is going to necessarily see the issue with the display unless they are using their device in the manner where the issue becomes apparent & for some people who don't normally watch videos in a dark environment they might not ever notice unless they used their phones in a manner that they normally wouldn't.

As for why I don't see any difference between my S8+ & S9+.... The only thing that might be different is the manufacture date of my S9+ which was April 19th - Perhaps Samsung initiated a change in the display prior to this build date - or maybe I'm just one of the "lucky ones".

Comments made by some, that question whether or not someone "knows what they are talking about" or challenging their eyesight does nothing to enhance their position, in fact it does quite the opposite ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] ConnyHedgehog:
To me it sounds like you got very lucky and got a screen without the problem :)

As I said before there is a huge difference between the screens where some screens looked (before the update) perfectly fine, some looked bad and some looked completely horrible. I'm not questioning your eyesight, I was saying that if you got my screen you would have noticed it immediately at the home screen (and you probably would have returned it to Samsung, just like I did with my first S9+) :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] shaggyskunk:
Yes I know a few friends who did return their S9+ devices - They purchased theirs on the first day that the S9+ was available - And you should know that I wasn't directing all my comments at you ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
Off topic but does anyone have any good apps for films I use show box but that tends to be playing up.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] ssj100:
While I completely agree with everything you said there, it may actually be more useful to see if you can reproduce the issue that has been discussed for nearly 100 pages. Just if you want to. And it sounds like you're already aware of how to reproduce the issue (yes, it requires specific conditions to be more obvious). For the first few weeks of having the phone, I also didn't notice it in video or on the wallpaper etc, until I started reading about it and I suppose my "eyes grew wiser" hehe? There's a good reason why they say it's better not to read too many threads in forums like these!

For me, I noticed it the most obviously on the black panther trailer, but I first picked it up in another movie (offline) on my phone (the movie called "Gladiator") - it was a dark scene and I watched it in pretty much a completely dark room (the banding issue is most noticeable on Commodus' face intermittently when he's talking to Maximus in the celebrations after the opening battle scene). I still had my S7 back then, and compared it side by side, and was rather disappointed that the S7 looked much better (didn't have this banding issue). However, with the BRE5 update, all is well! I must say, though, after analysing some scenes a bit more, I'd guess it's around 80-90% fixed and certainly not 100% (like others have observed too).
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] shaggyskunk:
I'll check out the two trailers you mentioned & see how it looks and let you know ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] ssj100:
The Gladiator one isn't a trailer - it's the actual movie in that specific scene. Also, it may help to compare it to your laptop or desktop monitor.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] speedxpt:
Im noticing right now and my s9 only has black crush sometimes, turned the phone on at 9am until 6pm everything was fine, then i did the test again with the same images and it had black crush again i reseted the phone and it was ok......
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
very odd that the same test one minute is fine then the next has it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Kostasl88:
Where is Toss?

Still waiting for him.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
How you finding the update ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Kostasl88:
It resolved the black crushing to what we can consider now normal for an AMOLED screen. It's not destructive for me any more. Every other aspect of my phone was perfect before the update. No crushes, no calls dropped, no lags etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
I can't remember seeing this on my s8 plus but once you notice a problem or things are brought to light things are noticed more but do you get colour banding in certain video clips ? Is that normal for most screens ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Kostasl88:
Yes. Banding is there and it was there in every other amoled screen that I've ever owned or layed my hands on.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
That's good least I know it's the norm. Can I ask does hacksaw ridge trailer still look alittle odd ? Like the first bit where he drops down and to the right of him the smoke looks very blocky .
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Kostasl88:
Yes it does but now I can say it's watchable. Not the best experience of course. Our screens are not defective, just Samsung denying to add a dithering filter, like Apple did, because Samsung doesn't want to lose a tiny bit of black from their screens that no one would care. If you take an iPhone X and sit in a dark room and display a black image, give your eyes 20-30 minutes to adjust and you will be able to see that the pixels are not completely off. That is not the case with Samsung's screens.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
Does the dithering filter do that cause the pixels to not shut off completely , I remember plasma TVs used to use dithering also. Least I now know that my old s8plus would of looked the same but I never noticed it due to it not having blackwall crush and making me aware of it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Kostasl88:
Yes, apple is using dithering. In my opinion, Samsung should have done the same.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] Ollieden:
I've never checked out the iPhone x to see how well the dithering works but from what I've heard its very good.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] rodrigoduarteh:
Have you solved the problem for the SM-G9650?

There was no update to fix the problem in the snapdragon version in Brazil.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] MelquiXDA:
Unfortunately, no fix for Brazil until now!!!! Only security update!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] brockyneo:
Is the dithering thing that Apple have a software thing that Samsung could do or is it hardware?

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] crossdeath:
it's a software thing
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] mikapharm:
Is it global problem or invidual ?

In egypt the store say its invidual and we can not replicate it in store in strong light

Should i replace it or all plus models are like that?

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Is it a global problem or invidual ?

In Egypt the store say its invidual and we can not replicate it in store in strong lights

Should i replace it or wait for fix