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[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] YPG70:
That is true, but I do not use root for Nougat anyway. I am fine as is. This is the only android device which i havent rooted lol
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ssnova:
I'm hoping for the same. I was just searching around to see if the US996 got the update yet because it hasn't shown up on mine. Even when oreo is finally released on the V20 I'll probably wait it out to make sure they got the bugs out of it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Can anyone confirm if the WiFi continues to search endlessly even when connected with the Oreo update? How is the stability and connection strength in general? When downloading something and the screen times out, does the download stop? These are all bugs that are driving me nuts with my V20 H990ds..
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Madmonk33:
Has anyone with AME-XXX V20 H990DS received Oreo update yet. I'm beginning to think it's not going to happen for this model.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dr jakub:
Not yet...probably in the end of the month like Indian model, but to be true LG is the worst company I've ever had. Took them whole year to upgrade flagship...never again LG.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tim3tripp3r:
Re: wifi searching endlessly

There is a hidden setting under security that can cause unnecessary (IMO) battery drain. See screenshots.

I pointed this out in another post and got a response that it helped their situation. I have both of them turned off in my case.

As far as the other ones, connection to WiFi or wireless network?

I haven't seen a problem with d/l stopping after screen goes off, so far so good.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Thanks Tim,

I had those settings already set to off.. I still have flaky WiFi.. I hope things will improve with the Oreo update.. If it ever comes for the 990ds AME variant. :crying:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] -PiLoT-:
has anyone managed to find or know where to find the h91020h kdz? my wife still isnt getting the update prompt so im thinking i may have to flash it manually.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] cnjax:
There has never been kdz files available for the H910
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] speculatrix:
I've manually checked for update and phone says it can't contact the update server.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] krk2krk:
I could sense that the other two models got V20a version that means it could be Beta version. I am already seeing some users getting bugs even though they performed factory reset. LG will take some time to settle with this build and may push other 990DS models with V20b or c. Again take this with a grain of salt. No one knows what is LG's plan when it comes to update.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jesus is God Almighty:
anyone else lost there memo+ widget?

Anyone lost the memo+ bar like 1*4 long bar.... I kinda lost it in the update and the funny thing is that many of the buying themes show on the picture. I have the momo+ program and ended up patching the missing bar with icons I could take out from the program icon and make a "menu" bar... At least it works... but does not look good. There are 2 widgets in the memo+ but not to be seen is the widget bar I used.

I hate that they changed the well known theme of the Orange black, why change something that worked and I think many liked?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPSp_gmD3wA&t=219s
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] darkknight200:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtG29IGXQAAg0Qm.jpg:large

Looks like us996 Oreo is pushed from even arriving in 2018 to the end of January 2019...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] stinka318:
I am having issues with my v20 us996 because I live in Australia for what I've been told the update will fix the issue but not happy about the constant delay......
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Sweet Jesus

I can't believe it... LG actually came through.. The update for my LG H990ds (V20a-AME-XX) to OREO is live!!!! Just finished updating and all seems well so far..
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] speculatrix:
My h990ds seemed a bit sluggish after upgrading to Oreo. That did improve over time, but also I think I got used to it. Many things are more reliable, I used to get a lot of WiFi dropouts which were a major annoyance, now it's solid. Bluetooth was ok, it's really solid now. Battery life might be a little worse, hard to tell.

Overall it's definitely a big win.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I have also noticed this sluggishness.. I noticed it most when I go into settings.. If I go into a sub menu and then hit the "arrow back" it takes a second.. at first I thought it was hanging and would hit it multiple times.. I think its something to do with the way either LG or Oreo has implemented Cache. Could be wrong? Also noticed when in gallery it seems to want to cache the photos before scrolling further and stutters. But I only notice this sluggenish within the system.. Everything else like web browsing and apps perform the same as on Android 7.. I'm happy with it.. Especially with LDAC included. I find the battery management better so far.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
I've had no problems with wifi or bluetooth on N.

So I'm in two minds whether to accept the Oreo update when it does arrive for my Indian variant.

Pretty much everything on my V20 on N works as it should.

The way to fix sluggishness is to clear system cache. The problem is that option isn't available on my V20. You either reset or not which is a bit more involved than setting system cache. I've never understood why that option is present in some V20 variants and not others. It's available on US carrier phones for instance but not on unlocked ones. Seems to be a LG thing because sammy's have the option.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KUSOsan:
This was a decision by Google for Oreo and they removed the option for this reason. I'm guessing some companies added it back in

Here’s what the Android O release notes say:

“Android O gives better guidance and behaviors around cached data. Each app is now given a disk space quota for cached data….

When the system needs to free up disk space, it will start by deleting cached files from apps that are the most over their allocated quota. Thus, if you [the developer of an app] keep your cached data under your allocated quota, your cached files will be some of the last on the system to be cleared when necessary. When the system is deciding what cached files to delete inside your app, it will consider the oldest files first (as determined by modified time).”
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
This is to do with app cache. I'm referring to system cache which shows up as an option with a certain key press combo at startup

Deleting system cache is available on carrier phones going back even to Lollipop but was never present on the non-carrier phones. It was definitely added in by the carrier. Sammy has this reset system cache option in recovery and if the UI feels sluggish that is your first quick fix.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] zero_3:
Still no Oreo update for h990ds in the Philippines. FYI - LG mobile division pulled out from the market sucks to be on LG phones right now.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] scorpio76r:
LG has definitely lost my many years of trust.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dudeawsome:
It's most likely the March security patch and I see Oreo source and ota coming towards end of april
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] enigmaco:
Just received an OTA this morning, I heard Oreo was going to be included with the latest security update, but the file size is only 115mb. so looks like its just the security update Also, its taking awhile to install though its just a security update.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivoh95:
Is it still arb1?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
I'm 99.9% certain it's ARB1.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] quanqw:
Can be root?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mnementh666:
It is
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] evo4g63t:
7.1.1 updates mostly involves vr support and doesn't offer much over 7.0 that is probably why the v20 hasn't got it and instead has had security patches based on 7.0.

Unless Oreo offers performance enhancements that directly affect our model I am not really interested in it.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepaktalwalker:
Please understand that Oreo is a next Android version. So it is only meant for features, performance, enhancements & much more. So it has to deliver best from LG V20. So you need to be interested in it without any doubt for sure...:(:laugh:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] SniperNoScope:
So screen retention is software related as I suspected because prior update there was no such thing on my screen now 2 apps in particular , summoners war and Facebook have ghost images even if I'm on for less than a minute , did root stop the retention? I have the H990DS model
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jody2k:
No not necessarely. To my knowledge Oreo doesn't give more performance and enchancements, just tiny new features and a bit new layout and security updates.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepaktalwalker:
How you can predict as above before it lands on LG V20...???

I can only assume what you say is correct but without admiting the same because you are senior to me here....?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jody2k:
Oreo has been released 1 year already on the nexus phones, it didnt improve performance either

So i can only assume it won't on the lg v20, everything is already optimized to max tbh

We will see ;) i would be surprised if it did though
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepaktalwalker:
Thank you for making me understand....?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] XsaucerX:
Its a colorcalibration problem, thats why using the screen filter helps
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jogg3r:
Is it true that I can't receive an oreo update (when happening) from AT&T because I'm using an unlocked H910 in Germany with of course another provider?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] buongu:
absolutely not true :)

I have been using a huge number of unlocked mobiles from different carriers, and this has never happened, updates always came through.

so don't worry, when the update's out, you'll receive it just as anyone else :)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] goulash2011:
This will be the month we all get the oreo on our handset
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jogg3r:
Not sure if I'll do the update. The phone is running like a beast with nougat. The only bad thing is that I can only achieve 5 hours SoT each day. But good enough until I go to sleep.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] toastyp:
If you are not on ATT you will not receive the updates. Runningnak3d confirmed this with the FTC. FTC said if you do not use the phone on the carrier it was designed for you are not entitled to updates (the amount of control us carriers have is terrifying). Since att does fota instead of ota, there is no kdz available and their servers only push updates to phones with an active att sim. This has been confirmed by multiple people using the h910 off network who can't get the phone to see updates.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] goulash2011:
^isnt LG the ones that are pushing it to ATT for them to release oreo, presuming this then unlocked versions should also receive oreo anytime soon.?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] toastyp:
Yes LG builds the base and sends it to the carriers. The carriers modify it and "test" it on their network before pushing it individually. This is why each carrier variant has slightly different bloatware as well as release schedule. The carriers get to control what happens on "their" phones. LG only directly pushes the unlocked variants software, which is why it isn't heavily bloated and is also bootloader unlockable. This is also why some variants have kdz and some don't. It's up to the carrier to decide how and when they push updates for branded phones on their network. It's what makes makes unlocked phones so appealing. No dealing with a carrier's bs.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] XsaucerX:
Im using my sprint phone with orange and so far i have updated(security patches) about 3-4 times
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] toastyp:
That's not att is it? I'm talking about the h910 not the ls997. Like I said every carrier is different but ATT will not push updates unless you have an active sim on fheir network.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] enigmaco:
Hopefully it fixes the bluetooth and GPS issues this has, 7.1.2 resolved issues 7.0 had. But I been hearing about issues with 8.0 and highly doubt the V20 will see 8.1
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] krk2krk:
i guess the same, it is clear that we will get Oreo, but i suspect that would be 8.1 and that should be. since we have been waiting for long and who knows Android P might have released when we see Oreo in ours.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dannieloco:
Any chance you were able to port to att v20?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
Did Oreo get released for some model that I am not aware of?

-- Brian
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] toastyp:
Definitely not. Until the g6 gets oreo I don't see LG doing anything with the v20. I heard March, then April, then May, and now I hear June is when they are pushing the g6 update. LG's abysmal performance in terms of software support is only going to get worse before it gets better

I'm assuming the guy thought when you said "I will port oreo" you were working on it currently rather than waiting on the actual LG release.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
LOL - I guess I needed the /s

Yea, I was being sarcastic.

As for LG pushing Oreo off, I am fairly certain they are adding in some extra security. Once the kernel source is posted to their site, the releases have always been within a week or so. This is the first time I have ever seen them post the source, but not have a fairly quick release.

-- Brian
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] toastyp:
Hahaha my bad. Sarcasm is one of those things that is hard to interpret via text. No tone or inflection to go off of. Any idea what type of security they will attempt to implement? Yeah it does seem strange even the h910 oreo source is available and they never update the source for that. Anyways I wish continued success on the lafsploit. Awesome to see all of that hard work pay off in a major way!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
If I had to guess, they are probably:

1 - closing the holes in laf

2 - Going to increment ARB on all models (this is actually requires a LOT of extra testing. If they increment ARB and miss a major bug, and the customer can't roll back -- that is BAD)

3 - Make it so that you must use the Oreo firmware to use the Oreo system. So no keeping Nougat firmware and just flashing Oreo boot / system

4 - Add a check for the eng. aboot and refuse to boot if it is found.

That would make it so that all currently rooted V20s would have to lose root to run Oreo with the exception of the H918. Even the H918, they could add a check for an unlocked bootloader and refuse to install until it is locked, and then flash a new aboot that doesn't have oem unlock like all the other models.

It all depends on just how anal LG wants to be.

All just hypothetical guesses, but we will know eventually...

-- Brian
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] hemal_4404:
Today LG announced on their Korean website to launch update Android Oreo for LG G6 on 30th April, and soon will follow to LG V20 and LG G5.

Source:

https://social.lge.co.kr/newsroom/lg_g6_oreo_0427/

https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-g6-android-oreo-update-v20-g5/
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
Well, Monday I will be pulling that down to find out just how much security they added.....

-- Brian
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] EnIXmA:
Still no confirmed month for v20. I heard that they would release it in july
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
I pulled down Oreo for the G6 G600 model. The KDZ format is slightly different (had to update the extractor), but as near as I can tell from booting lafd, they have done nothing to security on that front.

Also, this is G6 Oreo lafd running on Nougat firmware, on a V20. There could still very well be security measures implemented in the firmware itself.

Since this is Oreo for the G6 and specifically the G6 for their home territory ... the V20 could be different. Still get to wait and see ;)

Oh, and yea, no A/B updates (the V30 didn't get them, so I really wasn't expecting them on the G6 or V20), and no Project Treble (again, V30 didn't get it either).

-- Brian
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
In some ways this is good news actually. Especially when it comes to rooting and what not at least this is hinting towards us not having huge complications going forward to LG's Oreo builds. We'll find out more as G6 owners report on things on their end obviously.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KUSOsan:
Glad to see someone of your technical prowess is still in the V20 crowd. :good:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dudeawsome:
Could you send me to new extractor for future reference?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Drooes:
I recently had purchased this v20 and so i dont know much about it! But today i got some app update and because of which my dialer and homescreen changed completely!

Like instead of minimising it was a pop-up, like it use to be in oreo.

Or maybe it's just me who noticed this feature right now!

My device is H990DS (India)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KUSOsan:
Are you using the stock LG Home launcher? They update that separately and you prolly got a new launcher update. As far as the pop up thing that can be changed in call settings I believe. For it to change by itself is kind of odd though unless it was a setting enabled by default for the new LG Home launcher
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Drooes:
Yes i am using a Stock Launcher with some theme from LG world! No root and no modifications yet!

And yes i just found that setting, i did set call display for second screen but since i put up second display to be off in battery saver that is why it converted itself into a popup widget!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jl10101:
That pop up widget has existed since the LG G2. It's part of the LG stock phone app.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BAFLGV20:
LG just created a brand new software development team specifically to push software updates out a lot faster. Soon as i read about it, Oreo was already in development at T-Mobile For the V30, V20 and the G6. and you know how carrier phones can be. They have to rewrite the Rom after it has been made so they can bloat it up.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
A bit concerning that LG still hasn't released the kernel source for the H918 while the H910 has been available for quite awhile now.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] KUSOsan:
Didn't the T-Mobile v30 Oreo update get delayed recently? Thought I read somewhere so maybe that has something to do with it
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
We've had the kernel source for H910 Oreo for a month or two. OTA still isn't out for the H910. So..... who knows why we are lacking the one for the H918 even if it's likely to be the same.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
It may sound egotistical, but I really believe I caused them to delay the release.

That is the main reason I haven't released anything else. I want Oreo.

They can patch the crap out if their sh** but as long as I own the device, I will find a way.

-- Brian
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Still_living714:
Got this from reddit
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] goulash2011:
^thats another 3 months on top of the old scheduled, thats preety harsh and not looking good for unlocked phones either.

Thats insane what there doing to the v20 owners seriously.

Im on a h990ds unlocked but i think my next phone will be a nokia or a pixel if its attractive enough..

So sick of these delays to unlocked and carrier locked phones.

Official LG have lost me also as a customer.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
Don't blame LG or Samsung, if you buy a Pixel XL 2 from Verizon, it is locked. No fastboot commands.

The carriers are evil, and Google had a chance to stop it.

When they auctioned off the 450Mhz spectrum, Google had the money to demand that all phones were FULLY unlocked, and not just carrier unlocked .. but they didn't.

-- Brian
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] joaovictorsouza:
I'll sell my H990DS and buy a Xiaomi, Nokia or Pixel.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] goulash2011:
Yeah nokia seems the go to device for me real soon.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] joaovictorsouza:
Nokia bootloader is locked too?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Still_living714:
Anyone here thinking of going one plus route?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] cnjax:
Unfortunately I think there's enough info in the laf and laf exploit threads for them to target and patch. I have one idea how they'll do it but won't mention it here lol
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
[MENTION=4201835]cnjax[/MENTION] They could remove laf, and it won't matter. I have another exploit that can't be patched, but it is only for the V20, that doesn't involve laf.

Again, I would release it today .. just for the heck of it, but I don't want them to spend a year trying to find a way to patch it. When (if?) we get Oreo, I will release it even though it would really only do the LS997 any good for now.

The V20 has had a can of worms opened that can't be closed. ;)

-- Brian
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] cnjax:
Cool ? beans. You're the man
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nightshadow931:
August??!!!?

I can't freaking believe this.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] exendahl:
I have the similar experience, I live in Nepal and currently using H910. No updates at all. So, what I did was flashed US996 ROM. It is completely save and works completely safe as they both share same RSA key. H915 is also safe to flash.

---------- Post added at 03:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:42 PM ----------

I have the similar experience, I live in Nepal and currently using H910. No updates at all. So, what I did was flashed US996 ROM. It is completely save and works completely fine as they both share same RSA key. H915 is also safe to flash.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jogg3r:
Why u wanna have oreo on this phone so bad? I mean. I actually don't care because it's working like charme.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nightshadow931:
It's not about Oreo anymore, it's about them not giving a crap about their customers.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] goulash2011:
^at least security updates would be nice, still on november release 6 months behind, i though google set a policy for OEM's to adhere to a 3 month maximum out of date updates.

I just thought if we get oreo we would be patched up to latest updates for a while.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
we all have a good working device but it's all about the security update after all.. that's why update is important..
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hdom93:
Sure, security updates are necessary, but I also want the latest android OS and features, I paid over 500$ for this phone and its got a lower android version than my 5 year old nexus 5 that I paid 300$ for. Thats unforgivable. Never buying LG again, probably Oneplu 6T is next for me.