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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Can definitely confirm the very bad communication strategies from HTC. One doesn't get a bit of information. Even writing via FB Messenger was pretty weird, because noone really felt responsible, when I asked if the external card could be used for installing Apps directly on it.

Twitter the same and even the Phonecall was not a satisfying experience.

Luckily my U11 Life works like a charm and with a Cam App for the Pixel 2 even the pics are really good.

The security updates are always sent out about 4-6 weeks after initial appearance from Google, so I can live with that.

So far I don't see such huge benefits with pie, so I am not in need of a new phone, but have to admit, I was never an early adopter, even though a new phone is always great to have and to explore.

As for Pie from HTC. I could imagine, it's coming for Xmas, on the other hand they might have to do quite a bit pushing their Xmas sales for their newer phones, so we might even have to wait until 2019.

I sure won't ask them, as we all know it would be kinda useless ?

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Also thinking of an Pixel 3 , but it is not sold in Austria by Google.But would buy it in Germany

For me it is not only because of Pie!
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Of course, Pixel 3 has other features as well.

Good luck with Germany then. Maybe sending via logoix.com is the best way. Ois guate ;)

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Logoix is 10km from me - Freilassing 83395 Border to Salzburg ;)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Mucho praktisch. Then go ahead and order it [emoji847]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Or someone is gifting me a Pixel 3 ?.

I get a strange Feeling for no Pie in November ?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
We will see that in about ten days when the next update comes to asian u11 life devices. But i doubt it, HTC will be one of the latest one to update their devices and u11 life will probably be the last of their devices to get pie. Even with treble and android one HTC looks like a beginner when it comes to updates. At the moment i´m building my dream computer (thats a lot of money in there haha) but somewhen in spring i get rid of the u11 life and get a device that at least has a corret treble integration so GSIs work without modifications of the vendor partition and i dont need to care about OTA updates anymore.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
And sadly again... No Pie with November Update, this is not what i would call faster updates HTC.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
So you have the November update already? That's almost fast for HTC.

As I've said it once. They might send out Pie as a Xmas gift [emoji1]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
No i dont have the November Update, would have been amazing if it was there in europe. But HTC publishes the Updates for u11 life Android One 1-2 weeks earlier in asia and from the file name of the downloads for the Firmware files its easy to see if its still oreo or changed to pie.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] moghm:
Guys, its been a pleasure but I am now moving onto pastures new i.e.pixel 3 forum. Great phone the U11 life, just shame about the update situation as we know.

Also, as this is an update topic and i now have a new phone to compare the U11 life with, I believe the 8.1 update on U11 life broke synch contacts to bmw i drive e.g. not all contacts would show up on screen, I tried this on a 2018 mini with similar technology and same issue. With 9.0 on Pixel 3, no issues at all. And the U11 life also worked previously to 8.1 update.

Not to turn this into a bug post, but I also find that rapid charging became very inconcistent on the U11 life.

Anyway, if i can be of any further help, Ill be around on pixel 3 forum.

Once again, thanks.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Ok, didn't know that. I would've been very surprised, if HTC had managed to deliver Pie for the U11 life before the end of the year. They have never been the fastest in terms of Update Rollup. With Android One they at least committed themselves to somewhat faster rollouts (approx. 6 weeks after Google release) but even that shows they only do, what they have to. I still think, it will be with December update or even January.

We have to acknowledge, it is not the Flagship-Phone and so they focus more on other phones.

I instead am not even looking, if Pie will come, as I would be disappointed from Update to Update w/o Pie.

It comes, when it comes, needless to mention, Android One wasn't meant to work this way.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
I think Part of it is also googles fault. If they make rules for something they have to control if other Companys are following their rules. HTC didnt make it even once. Every securitypatch was too late. And IT shouldnt matter if its a flagship or not, they advertised the Android One Version with faster Updates so it has to be the first of their devices getting pie.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Yes, partly true. I guess the thing is, if Google made their update policies too strict in first place, many Vendors wouldn't have joined and Google would've faced a disaster.

Google is depending on the Vendors as well, they can't just dictate rules to follow.

Instead Google is tightening the compliance rules bit by bit, with the goal of getting an infrastructure, where the vendor is absolutely interchangeable. A factor, that is the biggest disadvantage to Apple so to speak.

Apple has only one HW-Vendor and thus users always have the same experience or features.

Decoupling OS-Software from Vendor-Software as beginning with Oreo and Project Treble, was the best step towards a more unified (and separated from vendors) infrastructure, where updates can be rolled out faster. Google does, but some Vendors like HTC still need several weeks to roll out those updates and quite a long time for OS-Updates, hence it is not that much Google's fault, many users not being satisfied with the Update Situation.

Companies like HMD Global with their Nokia phones have shown, how Android One is meant to be.

I am confident, the overall situation will become better and better, but not with our U11 Life.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Still the same **** , my Wife kills me if i buy a Pixel ? Maybe a One Plus 6 /6T would not be bad.

Also a Good Camera.

No Wireless Charging or IPx Certification.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
True, but still sad to see that treble and Android One isnt enough for HTC to change something. HTC would have needed a change so Hard and they were still not even able to notice it, not even with Android One. And there are rules from Google for Android One... Google is sending every securitypatch to all manufacturer a whole month before those are published by Google. Google writes on its own site for Android One that it can take "Up-to 14 Days" until the patch has to be available for Android One devices. That gives HTC and every other Company 44 days to implement, test, maybe correct something, test again and finaly Start the ota update. 1+ is now showing the Android World that it can be done even faster than Google for the Pixel devices, 1+ published the last two securitypatches 3-5 days earlier than Google published them for Pixel. Google is going to change the rules for Android devices in general for the future, thats undependent from Android One. One developer just need a Single Day of work to Update a device with the latest securitypatches and test everything, actually it just takes ten Minutes to Update the build Server and the Rest is just testing, sad to see that its not worth that little bit of work for HTC. I asked the Support several Times for the source Code for Android One Version but looks like HTC dont want to publish it, even if they have to.

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Yeah, i want a New device too.... Waiting for the mi9 could be a good reason to wait a few months longer, also i spend about 500€ each month for my new Computer the last two months and going on for another 3-4 months haha
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
Pixel Phone still wont be sold in Austria.

I saw an offer for an new Pixel 2 today for about 300-350€ in Germany.

Tried to get this;) But this is a Offline only offer... ( Retail)
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
Android pie with october Update is here
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Oh, you got it already? But wait, October Update was already a while ago without pie, so you mean November Update?

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
True, they say it's still October Update and yess, I knew, it would be come before Xmas [emoji16]

Happy updating folks ?

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] jacktheriefla:
To bad , i already ordered a new Pixel 2 for 350€

*that means double PPPPPPiie*
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Almost Pi(e)² [emoji16] have fun then

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Noticed a Battery drain since update? WiFi, GPS, BT and such turned off, but looks strange. Will keep an eye on that. Hopefully only an issue with calibration after the update

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
Probably HTC just needed that long because they changed the boot animation ;p
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
:D maybe

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] street_dog:
i see the same here. Only 17 min SoT. lets hope it just needs to recalibrate.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
No Problem here with battery but i allways clean Flash with every Single Update and full Charge the device after that... 2h screen on time and only 12% battery used
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Yes, after a while of nonusage it did better. Guess it will be fine again tomorrow.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] street_dog:
sounds good...
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Yep, recharged it meanwhile and now it seems to be back to normal (94% - 1d 3h)

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] vanbroekhoven.wim:
I just recieved build 3.59.401.1: Android 9.0
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] street_dog:
Seems like U11 Life is the first HTC model to recieve 9.0. So maybe we have to give HTC some credit for not forgetting that we have an AndroidOne phone. :)

Still not totally happy with battery life, it is a bit worse than before the upgrade. I used to have 68-74% battery left after a workday. Now, i know it was the first workday after upgrade, i had 58%. Maybe have to let the phone "learn" a bit more?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Would say it empties quicker, than pre Pie and responsiveness has gone down. Probably due to the battery saving function, which closes programs completely, if not used recently. The magnifying glass when clicking into text is nice, the horizontal alignment of open Apps is imho not so useful, especially as it takes longer to open and until you have flipped all open apps aside.

Am not complaining, but so far I see yet no real advantage to pre Pie.

But let's wait a bit, how things unfold

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] street_dog:
I thought i only imagined the slightly slower responsiveness, good to see someone else noticed. And yes, a horisontal open apps, at least "clear all" could be right at your fingertip, not the other end of all open apps.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Yep, the close all button is missing and if one has to swipe from one end to the other, it's way more time consuming, than vertical app selection.

Hope, there will be some updates to gain speed again. We'll see

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
I dont notice any slow down of the system, but i allways deactivate all system animations and i deactivate about 30 stock apps incl about 90% of all google apps. What i noticed is that the system animations in android 9 are longer than it was with 8.0+8.1, maybe this is the reason that it feels slower. The recents screen changes are absolutely bad and makes working with recent apps much slower. But all of this is Googles fault and not HTC because it was changed in stock android. I have to look it up but i remember that i have read something about bringing back android 8.1 recents to android 9 devices, that would make it nearly perfect. The rest is just that i am missing xposed+gravity box for android 9 haha.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] Hawk19:
Can you share the rom or OTA file please for Android 9 Update ?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
Stock boot.img and system.img are already in my collection and full firmware/software file will follow as soon as it is available
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] Signor Rossi:
I wonder, is the GPS Location Service now a simple on or off? I'm missing the Battery Saver option.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
In the swipe down menu you have the classical GPS Button where you switch it on or off.

Furthermore in the settings there are the same options as before (iirc)

Or did you mean something else?

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] Signor Rossi:
I meant this, but where is the Battery Saver option. You are missing it too. It's now a on or Off setting?

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Sorry, forgot about the battery saver.

This option is there as well and that new Option "Intelligent Battery" is new. That keeps track about apps, which weren't used recently and shuts them down completely.

The classical "Battery Saver" is there as well and can be switched on/off or depending on Battery Level.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] Signor Rossi:
No, this option is completely missing as all other options for GPS Modes are missing. The Battery Power Saving setting is something completely different.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Oh and GPS is turned off on my previous attachment. Switching it on makes it appear with a torquoise background, as seen here

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] Signor Rossi:
Dude, no offend, but you do not understand what I am saying.

In the Past (Android 8.1 and lower) I was able to switch between, I guess, 3 - 5 different location service modes. Now it's only on or off.

It was, if I remember correctly.

GPS off

GPS device only

GPS Battery Saver

GPS full

I remember there where even more before 8.1

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Ok, your question was maybe not so clear that you meant those options within GPS only.

It always takes two to communicate, so maybe there was a sender problem as well, betire... Whatever.

That's true, those options seem to be gone. There seems to be no more further fine-tuning for the GPS usage.

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A quick search reveals it being a fact

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...-now-binary-setting-battery-saving-mode-gone/

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
Finaly HTC was very quick... december 2018 security patch is available
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] street_dog:
this close to the pie update...now i'm impressed...
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Me too, almost wanted to rant a bit, because we were still at October Security Level but then the December one pops up. Well played, HTC ;)

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] SHA_NDY:
So when do you usually get your security updates?

Here in Germany it alway comes at the very last day of the month...
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Austria reporting in: Approximately 5-6 weeks later, (depending how to look at it. Isn't the initial Google Release during 1st week of the month? Then it would be 4-5 weeks after initial Release) so it comes in the first or 2nd week of the next month.

You got the February update already?

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] Signor Rossi:
I just got mine.

I've always understood that Google does them on the 1st. But only sends them 1-2 weeks to Pixel phones. Another 2 weeks later usually it's ready for us.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Update: Had a look and here it is already ^^

Arrived a bit sooner than the last ones

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Here we go again. March Update came

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] saturday_night:
Thats online for about a week :good:
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Not sure, it was that long up here in Austria, but haven't checked for some days, so it might have been. Would wonder though, as the other updates never came before the end of the month.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] SHA_NDY:
Anyone's got the June patch?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ozan2:
Nope.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] street_dog:
we probably won't get any... we'll get Q i August instead... ?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] SHA_NDY:
:p :laugh:
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
I like it, when there are ppl being optimistic for no rational reason at all [emoji28][emoji28]

Working on Q is sure one reason for a late June Patch, but I'm not so convinced, Q will hit the U11 Life in August already.

HTC has actually immense problems with the rollout of Pie for their High End Phone U11. (Which is no Android One and will receive no further Major Updates, even if it was released only last year.)

In that case I'm really happy I got the U11 Life Android One Edition, as we got (or will get) 2 Major upgrades and security patches on a regular basis.

My issues with Bluetooth headphones while having the phone in the back pocket are another story and maybe worth another thread here, but overall I'm (being no early adopter nor a heavy tech geek) so far satisfied with it and that being said about a phone being almost 2 yrs old now.

I'd say we get Q(ueso) 1 month after the initial release [emoji4]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] SHA_NDY:
Monthly updates means monthly updates. that's the android one promise and philosophy. In fact it's July and June update is missing...
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
You should add a "usually means"

If HTC, or some other manufacturer is busy, then there won't be an update on a monthly basis.

Afaik there are no sanctions from Google, if a Security Update arrives late, especially now, where preparations are running, to provide even newer phones with Android Pie.

I'd say, Google is still satisfied, because of that and not being too pushy about an update, that might due to come, but may be postponed for a little longer, than usual, or even gets integrated into the Q update.

Sooner or later we'll get the June Patch, but I can't say, if it comes separately, or with the 2nd promised Major Update. We'll see

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] SHA_NDY:
At the end of the day I'm still satisfied with having regular updates at all. Before Android one with my old phones it was a mess getting updates.

I will definitely stay on Android one in the future.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
I guess, I'll stick to Android One as well, but still depending on the phone as well. Next one might be a Nokia, but not sure yet. My U11 Life will serve its purpose, as long as it is working properly and I don't think Android Q will make it inoperable :)

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] SHA_NDY:
that's exactly what I'm afraid of. Android Q could make storage access very slow and depending on your daily phone use-cases this could mean taking a step back...

https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-storage-access-framework-scoped-storage/
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Ok, wasn't aware of that. Hopefully there will be some changes in the storage handling in the final Q Release.

As it seems it might not get as bad, if you don't handle huge files, but might still mess up apps like Galleries and such.

Let's hope for the best.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] SHA_NDY:
I always hope for the best :good:
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
[emoji106] [emoji4]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
And here we go. Got it yesterday. Is the latest update I got so far on the U11 Life.

This could confirm my forecast for the update to Android Q. This will probably arrive around Christmas.

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] SHA_NDY:
And July patch arrived as well...:good:
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] street_dog:
two updates within a week...that's new...
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
So much for getting Android 10 around Christmas.

Actually even the January Security Patch is a bit overdue, compared to the cycles of the last couple of patches (around 4-6 weeks max)

I hope - as far as Android 10 coming at all - that it doesn't slow down the overall speed.

Having lately seen a slowing down within the play store, but overall performance still "yummy"

Well. Let's hope for the best. Maybe the easterbunny has some Q in his nests for us. ;)

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] SHA_NDY:
Hopefully it has...but there are many Android One phones hanging around without Q until now.
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ozan2:
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What about your SOT guys?
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] SHA_NDY:
I get about 2-3h, no gaming, not much surfing, no videos
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Not really tested, as I tend to plug in the powercord way before I'm below 60% [emoji1]

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[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ozan2:
Me too, 3-4h
[HTC U11 Life Guides, News, & Discussion] ucomix:
Laaadieees and Gentlemaaaan.

HTC U11 life proudly presents....

Android 10 Update.

Tbh: I thought, they had given up on updating us ever again.

Thx #HTC. I'll test it soon

Have fun fellow HTC U11 life Users and let's hope, it doesn't break anything.

P.S.: I'm in Austria, but I have no clue when other Regions will get it. Hopefully you get it all soon!

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