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[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepaktalwalker:
I would keenly like to be not one but both the kids of yours....:cool:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jogg3r:
Guys, stop crying. **** the update and keep your LG v20 anyway. Omg this is ridiculous..
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] popwar:
Maybe h918 is taking so long because tmobile is trying to fix the current issues with other variants that have gotten the Oreo update?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Andy Chi:
Welcome to the family son, we gonna get u a poco phone and some nice school clothes too because school is about to start :highfive:

My kid gonna be looking baaaadd... All the kids gonna be jealous. :fingers-crossed:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Worschtebrot:
I need the Update for Android 8. For App Clone. And no i wont use an App from the Store for it. Too risky.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dudeawsome:
That's to build a kernel not the whole system
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
I've contacted each and every one of LG's websites that have any of the H990 variants listed and one of them has just responded to my email with this:

"Hi Igor.

It is now available you can go to setting - general - about this phone and check for it ,or you can go to your network provider for further assistance.

Kind Regards

LG Service Team

"

I've checked both the About section and the LG Bridge and no, the update isn't available.

Can the rest of you confirm this or is it really began to reach some of the H990 variants?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] samirpujara:
I have 990ds in India and daily checking for updates, but no luck yet.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Trastommy:
Same model. No shuck luck, no luck at all.

Enviado desde mi LG-H990 mediante Tapatalk
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
Well that's just peachy. LG just went from giving us no information at all, to just spreading lies. That's how every company should treat their customers. Clap clap...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] rssy:
Today also I had a talk with a LG representative just to confirm that will the Lg V20 start receiving oreo update from 7th of September he said that it may take upto 1st week of October for oreo to get released in India for LG V20 H990Ds. I was expecting this as it is LG so the months and deadlines will keep on increasing...... Hope so LG may improve itself or else LG will be soon out of the smartphone market even after giving fantastic devices to the world....

Edit: It is 100% confirmed that Lg v20 H990ds in India will start receiving oreo update from 7th of September. The update will be released in batches till first week of October...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] krk2krk:
If you check the below link you can see that no source code published for 990DS edition still. I guess it will take 2 weeks to 1 month at least to get 8.0 in 990DS phones after we see the Source code. Sorry if I broke anyones heart !!!

http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=h990
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Worschtebrot:
What do you expect. They wont learn. Their whole CEOs and Software Department should get fired. I write an Letter to Computerbild here in Germany tomorrow. They should ask LG whats with their **** and slow Software-Support and with their promised Update Center. I bet it was a Lie so the People will shut up a few months.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Trastommy:
I'll wait, thanks

Enviado desde mi LG-H990 mediante Tapatalk
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
The ironic thing here is that those V20 variants that already did receive the Oreo update are only for two countries and most of them are either for Korean or US operators. I don't remember the last time I saw an Android (or any mobile OS) update reaching carrier units way before the international and unlocked ones and I don't get LG's policy on this one.

I get the fact that Oreo first arrived on the South Korean units, but I don't understand how US carriers (excluding T-mobile for some odd reason) got it before the H990 variant (which doesn't require any approval from any operator or the installation of any kind of their bloatware). I could deal with all of this nonsense with more ease if LG could give us some insight or any kind of information of why they're releasing the Oreo update in this kind of fashion and why is it so hard for them to give us an official timeline, but I guess it was naive of me to think for a second that a corporation could act like a normal human being for once and openly talk about their plans for one of the products we gave them our hard earned money for.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Andy Chi:
LG ............ = B U F U <--------God Level FACT.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] goulash2011:
It was utter naive of me when i bought the v20 last year to think this unit would be supported in a timely fashion, i got excited that it came with android 7 out of the box so assuming it would be one of the firat phones to get oreo...

Hmmmm im preety gutted..but hey now i know no LG phones for me in the future..

November security patch leaving everyone vulnerable to whatever securiry holes there are....farrrk that im going nokia 7 plus asap..dogs them LG seriously.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] antoyn:
That's weird, because the H990N seems the only H990 variant which have its Oreo kernel source being uploaded to the LG open source distribution website, but it did not even receive Oreo yet (OTA and LG Bridge).
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] speculatrix:
If the 2nd screen feature can be made to work in Lineage OS, then maybe we won't care so much about official support by LG of Oreo?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepaktalwalker:
Not possible in Lineage OS or any other Custom ROM. Source codes for Second screen were not released by LG anytime till date.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] cnjax:
I've read the ss builds that are out there are full of issues and half baked at best, no where as good as stock second screen
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Andy Chi:
RR rom has it and it works great. Select the SSdev ROM version. It's on Oreo too.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepaktalwalker:
Post just above yours says it all.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ottersR:
I'm on the SS LOS version and it's definitely buggy. Switching back to Super tonight
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
You do realize that AOSP second screen is still in development and is a work in progress, right?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ottersR:
I'm sure he's aware of that. Still, he is correct. It needs to be ironed out but it's still usable if people want to endure the bugs.

Off the top of my head I encountered a few bad bugs:

Awful battery management. My phone couldn't even charge past the drain rate(without QC)

Sometimes I couldn't get back into the phone after it locked. I'd unlock and the screen would stay black until I pulled the battery. If it didn't just go black it would take upwards of 20s to turn back on.

Internet would randomly stop while downloading. Had to pause and restart many times.

Phone got HOT. Too hot. V10 right before bootloop hot
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
I'm running the most recent Resurrection Remix build (8/31) and while it's not perfect it is an improvement over where things where at a month ago. Battery life is a little bit better for me and my V20 is pretty cool for the most part compared to earlier builds where even I had some heat issues going on. It's not quite daily driver material but it's getting there.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] techops:
If I don't use the second SIM on my H990DS can I flash F800 or H915 kdz Oreo safely?

https://lg-roms.com/LG-Firmware-List/LG V20
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepaktalwalker:
No.....You can not....Please never try that or else you will end up with a brick in your possession...:cyclops:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] joaovictorsouza:
It will not brick your phone will just not boot up (I've tried F800 kdz). I think that H900 need some flag in kernel
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] henrylar:
what about H990N - has anybody tried that one on a H990DS?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
I'm running the latest H990N firmware on the H990DS and it works perfectly.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] lukem99626:
H990n oreo is end of december now apparently ha screw LG they pulles this with the g4
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
Where did you get the information about December release?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] lukem99626:
Lg security
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] goulash2011:
^thats some tragic news.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] AidenM:
-- delete, wrong thread --
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] buongu:
are you sure? they said October 2018 for the g5, which is 6 months older, why would they leave the v20 behind? :(
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
I sure hope he's wrong and that it's some kind of misunderstanding...Waiting until December would be nothing short of savage and unfair on LG's part :(
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] krk2krk:
Could be, But nowadays OEMs are delaying beyond a limit to make us to purchase their new flagship. I am having H990DS now and I dont know when I will get Oreo. I am hoping to get it before end of this year.

I had LG G3 and it received Lollipop within 40 days from the day Google launched it. So this is a great example for us to know about the duration which is needed to provide an update to Flagship. V20 released with Nougat and still stays with it for almost 2 years. It is Shame on LG !!!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
Guys, please bear in mind that LG is one of the OEM that have a really bad software development team. Not since the day of G4 and V10 start bootlooping or G3 flicker issue but it is since their first day of involvement in smartphone market, they can't really maintain their software. Take a look, most of LG smartphone is stuck with earlier version of android as example..

LG G2 EOL on Android 5.0, not 5.0.2 or 5.1.1..

LG G Pro EOL on Android 5.0.2, not 5.1.1

LG G3 EOL on Android 6.0, not 6.0.1

LG G4 EOL on Android 7.0 ( for korean ) and 6.0 for others model ( Nougat Beta's doesn't count )

LG V10 EOL on Android 7.0, not 7.1.1

LG G Flex EOL on Android 4.4.2, not 4.4.4 or 5.0.2 or 5.1.1

LG G Flex 2 EOL on Android 5.1.1 and some on 6.0, not 6.0.1

You can't rant if Oreo got delayed because i believe most of you already knew how f**ked up LG Software team are and yet, you still choose it.. *Sighh*

I remember when i used Xperia Z, it was a great phone and well maintained by Sony..

from Android 4.1.2 up to 5.1.1.. way higher than LG G2 and G Pro 2..

Why wouldn't LG learn some from Sony? If they still thinking it is comfortable to stay like this then one day, LG will be gone from smartphone market..

So guys, are you still going for LG for your next phone ? Well.. I will, probably V30 or V35 because of that wide-angle camera has been really handy for me..

Software? mehh.. If it was LG, then i don't put my hope too much....
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] goulash2011:
I came from a windows phone after i let go off android 5 years ago..

I stepped back in early 2017 grabbed a great phone but wasnt aware of LG track record with software development.

It is a shame though...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
It's a shame about LG indeed. I got my H990DS V20 about a year ago and I absolutely adore its hardware and features (especially since I got it after its price had dropped significantly). Still, it could use a bump in performance, battery life and stability and I certainly hope that Oreo will do the job in that regard. And it's hard not to be pissed of at LG and their software support considering that they are more than capable of creating very good hardware.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
Also, so much for the aforementioned 7th of September roll out date for the H990 variants :D Unless some of you did receive the update by some miracle? XD
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] kingtm:
I have V20 H990DS AME version and no Oreo for now. There is no OTA or update form LG Bridge. LG is a ****ing lie all of us.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
Yup, I still find it hard to believe that Oreo was officially released more than a year ago now and they still don't have what it takes to deliver it to one of their best smartphones in a normal amount of time. Sigh...

P.S. The fact that my model of the H990DS was made in Korea and that the "real" Korean models already got the update more than a month ago really adds to the entire irony :D
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] uxairmalik:
i guess you are right
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
LOL, I'm starting to feel like the H990 variants of the LG V20 are from Mars or something and that it's almost an impossible task for LG to update them and thus they are considering abandoning the ship and giving up XD

I could understand that the H990DS could present itself as a slight challenge because of its Dual SIM capability, but I can't believe that the regular H990 models could be so different from the rest of the variants that it become a problem or a huge task for LG to update them to Oreo. This is getting silly now XD
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] cnjax:
Oreo blah I don't get all the hype, all you get is the cookies LG left out the creamy white center
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
Well judging by the reports of those that got the update it brings significant improvements to performance over Nougat (at least in the case of the V20).

That's enough of a reason for me to welcome Oreo with open arms :D
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] cnjax:
Funny, I've read several people report on here, battery drain, screen retention still a problem, invalid sim issues after getting the update, and the list goes on
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Creative_X:
+1
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] X-Nemesis:
Nothing on the H918 front yet?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLoonyRebel:
"Soon" according to T-Mobile. Whatever that means.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] zeusofyork:
Screen retention appeared to be good. But under heavy sustained use it's still there. Kcal totally eliminated it for me....bricked my phone and now I'm on stock. ****kkkkk. I used to have full day and then some on my 6600 mah. Now... Not so much.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vortell:
LG appears to be working on pie. I will say both s5 and note 4 had battery issues tell 8.1 roms were refined enough. There is also a period with increased battery drain until things seem to smooth out and get better.

https://m.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-android-p#lg
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
How can I install the firmware from another LG V20 variant on my H990DS? Can I do it without rooting and flashing it via TWRP? Is it possible to fool the LG UP application into thinking that I'm using some other variant? (since it's not letting me to install any other firmware than the one made for H990 variants)

P.S. I don't care about bricking my phone, I'm so tired of waiting for the Oreo update and so sick of LG in general that I've decided to install it forcefully on my V20 no matter the consequences.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] PhantomGamers:
I'd like to point out that these are merely this guy's predictions.

With it being September already and the majority of V20s still don't have even 8.0, I wouldn't hold my breath for Pie.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
LG is skipping again with Oreo for us and currently working on Android P for V20 because they want to play a catch-up game with the others company..

Ehem..

No, they're not.. I'm just telling you a lie, please don't put too much hope on LG software development team..
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] techops:
The news about Android P doesn't sounds legit, same as the official news about LG opening new Software Upgrade Center in South Korea back in April. Their intentions for faster and timely updates have proved to be lies and "fake news". Unfortunately the case with LG G4 update to Android 7 is repeated - only the Korean G4 has been updated officially to Android 7. I'm really disappointed about their policy. I think asking and naging LG twitter accounts or their live supports is pointless, because there is no official statement about the international versions H990*/DS.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] carlosjcar:
I have given up on LG upgrading my h918. They are not even going to 8.1 just 8.0. Im looking at my options now. I like the G7 but it will probably get stuck in 8.0 and never see 9.0. So im hoping the G7 One is cheap enough. The android one program will do a better job at upgrades. If that is not cheap enough then Ill go for the Oneplus 6. A friend has it running the open beta 9.0 and it is extremely stable for an open beta. It is not worth my time to wait for LG to get their stuff together.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Winterdeath:
I was thinking the exact same thing.

I do love the V20 as a phone, I can't deny that, but if LG don't get their act together and update it in a timely manner (or update at all) I will switch to another manufacturer's phone out of principle as I don't want to support a company that doesn't give a crap about me as their user and someone who spent my hard earned money on one of their devices.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] ssnova:
Not sure if you guys saw this, but LG is opened up a new facility/division to focus on software updates:

"The Software Upgrade Center will not only be charged with developing and delivering regular OS updates for LG smartphones, it will also be responsible for ensuring a consistent user experience on LG devices by continuously testing the stability and compatibility between hardware and software after updates"

http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2018/04/l...upgrade-center-for-faster-smartphone-updates/

I'll be one of the first to say that LG phones suck at software updates, but like I said in an earlier post, at least they acknowledge it and are taking steps to address this in the future. I don't expect a complete overhaul any time too soon, but "in the future", I'm hopeful they are serious about getting better with software updates with their new facility and new hires (if they knew what they were doing, they would hire some developers from here!).

For now, my LG V20 is my backup phone, I'll wait and see if they deliver the proposed updates, especially the alleged Android Pie update for the V20. Companies change over time, why I'd like to say "never say never".. management changes, new directions and changes take time. If a company wants to survive and they lack something, they address it, they have to improve, and it looks like LG is taking steps/actions.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Creative_X:
I have given up too. Lazy LG company. I will get OnePlus 6
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] PhantomGamers:
Let's not blame LG here, I mean sure blame them for the delay getting 8.0 out and the lack of 8.1 but 8.0 has been ready since July, it's all on T-Mobile now.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_infinity:
Better wait for the 6T :P
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] techops:
But what to say to H990DS owners? If 8.0 has been ready since July, why we have not yet received it :)

LG V20 H990DS should receive the update, regardless of the carrier.

And BTW according to LG Electronics Middle-East we already have "last update of OS was released for all device where in U.A.E. " :confused:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jogg3r:
No Oreo for the V20. Who cares? Stop crying and be happy with an amazing phone! :rolleyes:

God guys, you lost control of your lifes..

Let The ****storm begin. :victory:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] cnjax:
So many tears
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheIronMaiden:
Heres a handkerchief
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] CaseyS:
Good thing I have a H910 with oreo. It's really not all that special haha
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] daverup:
I can almost forgive LG for no OS upgrades.

However,

No security updates or patches for the Unlocked Unbranded Non-carrier US996 V20 in almost two years is not acceptable. This phone was nice hardware, but without security updates, junk.

LG security is an oxymoron.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] buongu:
exactly, I don't get people mocking us for demanding updates, especially security patches. With all the things we do nowadays with our phones (home banking for example), and all the security alerts we constantly receive, how can you buy a flagship phone and be fine when its support practically stops after only 12 months? :/
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] cnjax:
Yeah but complaining on a forum that isn't LG isn't going to accomplish anything.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] macckus:
does not it have to be updated for the h990 ds variants?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jerryvail924:
Glad I rooted and installed alpha omega rom?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_infinity:
It should be, but it'll take some time.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Creative_X:
Till december :(
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] daryula:
after several announcement of promised Oreo update which never comes

Ha! I won't even believe this anymore, i'm so eager to install a cusrom on this device tbh

if you guys says Oreo is available on T-Mobile, guess what it's only for you there H990DS still on 7.0 :(
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] YPG70:
I wonder when US996 will get Oreo update? I am planning on keeping this device for atleast 5 years.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] shouk_1987:
I agree with yoy

V20 is a great device and have many unique features till now and it is probably my last LG device if they keep the same strategy

All vendors now focus on software updates and developments while LG is not at all

Main draw backs are battery which is crap and i already own a bog 6K mAH batttery with its cover but it's not practical for a everyday operation due to its bulkness and phone size and weight and grip it's very good in emergencies or traveling

Screen retention and crappy front camera and ofcourse software department

While a lot of positives are there to be honest

I have managed to catch the poco f1 armored 256 / 8 in India ( ( due to its capabilities over the price ) to a friend there and waiting for any traveller to get it to me in my country in Egypt

I will hand the V20 to my wife instead
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dudeawsome:
Right. Let me rephrase it we can hope they give us fastboot commands back.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] tahirkhann08:
any news for the H990DS Dual Sim global version?
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dudeawsome:
No information but LG did promise that we will get Oreo so that means all v20s just timing may vary