yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
I wasn't replying to your query. Sorry. I haven't done any digging at all. I was just adding a cosmetic detail.

It seems to me that the sliding tabs/panels of WM6.1 is very similar in utility to Neo.

I think it's also interesting how the setup panel can be removed, or it removes itself.

Perhaps, if you are clever, you can create a weather panel, based on the HTC home found elsewhere.

GnatgoSplat:

It's good to know that you're watching this. Thanks for the update. Oddly, after a cold reboot, I had gotten System Information to display between your update and my last post.

Can you possibly enlighten us as to any non-cosmetic or strictly UI-based changes in WM6.1 and previous versions?

General Observations:

It seems the main additions to WM in v6.1 is the new Homescreen GUI which now has panels. The Panels are similar to the Neo interface from Shadow.

You toggle between panels, up and down:

Icon Bar - typical plugin we all know. Batter, reception, GSM, 3G, wireless... Non-selectable, and not a slider.

Home Panel - Displays carrier, alarm status, nice big clock and (short) date. Pressing the Home softkey returns you to this panel.

Notifications Panel - When unselected, it displays an icon list of the various possible notifications and will show a count e.g. SMS 3 When you select it, it shows individual notification categories, toggle left/right to slide between missed calls, voice mail, SMS, and MMS.

Appointments Panel - when unselected, it shows your upcoming appts. When selected, it shows current appts and toggling left/right takes you to "New App't" Exactly like Neo. It doesn' seem to have a tasks view (correct me if I'm wrong).

Getting Started - this panel has shortcuts to setup email, wallpaper, password etc. You can tell it to unsintall this panel, and it will remove it from all homescreens. It appears sub-menus are all XML, similar to CPL pages. Getting Started can still be found in the Stat Menu

Play All Songs Panel- this one is optional, enabled from Home in Start->System Settings->Home Screen -> Home Screen Layout -> Sliding Panel Media. It enables the Media Player Plugin, similar to that found in other homescreens, and again, just like Neo.

# Photos Panel - I presume enabled exactly the same as the Media Play panel, it shows your pictures. Allows setting them as wall paper etc, same, again, as Neo.

Settings Panel - a 5 category panel; Profile, Wireless Manager, Ringtone, Background Image, Task Manager.

Most Recently Used - this shows up as an option in the Home Screen settings. It doesn't display as a sliding panel, when you press the Start softkey, it shows up as your start menu, with the left soft menu saying "All Programs."

Other Notes

:

MS has finally given us 2 individual alarms. (Unless this is Chronos alarms, the start menu looks similar).

There's also a mysterious setting under Power Settings. After Light Sensor Enable, there is a bar for entry of some form of data with a "1" and the cursor insert point just blinking. Absolutely no descriptor....
[HTC Tornado] markanthonypr:
BUG?? Can't Add/Edit/Delete MMSC settings

@Exitao: I see you're doing a great job at reviewing this ROM, could you or anyone else please see if MMSC settings can be edited/add/delete.. All options are greyed out for me. Thanks.
[HTC Tornado] revanmj:
for me too, could someone repair this?
[HTC Tornado] hizad:
Thanks for the fix, just a suggestion can you please upload the cab file for the fix because some of us cannot dowload through rapidshare and we are using the mirror site (thanks to ppcvn)

Great Rom by the way
[HTC Tornado] revanmj:
I found w bugs:

- Security Settings in Bluetooth can't be opened

- I can't recevie any files by bluetooth or IR (I have turned on Visible and Beams). Someone who sends me it gets error on his phone, on my phone nothing shows up
[HTC Tornado] Lovetz:
Mirror for b2, thanks to SHISH.

http://ifolder.ru/5673912
[HTC Tornado] rainstorm:
The key backlighting does not work for me on this rom - any way to fix this?
[HTC Tornado] markanthonypr:
Couldn't find a way to make it look at pictures on Storage Card. Could someone please check that posibility?

Thanks.
[HTC Tornado] illi:
Registry Settings & Clock

Everytime the phone is power up I lost all modified registry settings incluing the clock/time. The time and date reverted to the default which is 2006 instead of 2008.

I believe theres still a bit of "cleaning" need to be done on this ROM.
[HTC Tornado] illi:
*.Home.xml & *.cpr files

We need to look at the *.home.xml & *.cpr files. I think this is where the slide comes into play. But its greek to me.
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Is this from a power off? I have not experienced this.
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
MMSC? I'm sorry. Is this in the GPRS type settings? I've never enabled mine with my service provider. But I'll poke around. If thats not what you're talking about, please clarify for me.
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
What are you using to view the cpr files?

NV mind. IC. It's an XML file.

Can someone who hasn't removed the "Geting Started" panel from their homescreen post their "CHome_240x320.cpr" file please?
[HTC Tornado] UserN1:
Great work!Thanks so much!:D
[HTC Tornado] illi:
Yes! from power off.

and its .net2 not the latest .net3
[HTC Tornado] illi:
Attached...:D
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
CHome is found in the registry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\CHome\CMyPhotos\Images
string value: chMyPhotos_default = 2452

Find out what 2452 refers to and I think you might be on your way.
[HTC Tornado] mkloeckner:
Thanks for the ROM! It's working great.

I have 2 issues though:

- my Wifi doesn't work. It says "Driver not loaded".

- the Contacts-Button opens IE, the Messages-Button opens WMP

Any way to fix this?
[HTC Tornado] illi:
Install the attached.
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
I don't see what the problem is. You go to Start > Settings > Connections > GPRS > New.

I can change the logon:password in the T-Mobile settings and delete them fine.
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
It seems that this one has the sp5m settings, be default. Yay. It's about time someone else has to add a fix.

:-P
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Interesting. I was just reading that having 3 installed on the ROM can make it faster. There's a tweak or something that needs to be applied, IRC. It was over at Modaco.

Over at Koxo, the big thing seems to be to have .Net2 installed on the storage.

Seeing as most SD are faster (read/access) than the ROM, I don't see that as bad.
[HTC Tornado] ronangel:
wm6.1 for tornado

Guys I'm still at wm5 of my dopod 577w can you help /give me step by step procedure how to upgrade, tnx.
[HTC Tornado] illi:
Downloading .net 3 now and will install to sd shortly.

Use the attached to configure them.
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Look at the sticky threads at the top of the forum and see one authored by Karhoe. Follow his guide, but use this ROM instead of guide's ROm.
[HTC Tornado] qwnyx:
看的不大懂```是修正蓝牙的吗?:confused:
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
No, it solves "the Contacts-Button opens IE, the Messages-Button opens WMP" (接触按钮打开即讯息按钮打开WMP的)

And the post he was answering said wifi not bluetooth. (与后，他回答说： <<无线网络连接>> ，不支持蓝牙功能>。
[HTC Tornado] mkloeckner:
Thanks! That solved the button-issue.
[HTC Tornado] sharedworld:
Sorry for this question...

Hi,

I currently have NitroGeNiouS WM6 rom.

Could please someone explain me what are the benefits in this ROM?

Is it only the "Home Carrousel" and the "Copy/Paste" features?

What about speed? Does it run faster than WM6?

And thanks again for all your wonderful work!
[HTC Tornado] Pumpiron579:
This problem started happening with Nitro's newest rom. This never happened with 3.7, Could it have something to do with the newer GSM that I flashed along with Nitro's Platinum?

Live messenger has allways worked for me.

Checked those settings and have played around with them, setting it from Automatic to WAP....same problem. Desktop connects via internet.

I also tried the same sim card that is in my wizard and hermes and still have the same problem.

I have tried putting the settings from the AT&T site in manualy and I have used that cab that has settings for AT&T, still cannot get IMAP or POP.
[HTC Tornado] iuliu:
camera dont work
[HTC Tornado] GnatGoSplat:
markanthonypr - You will need to delete the T-Mobile settings and replace with SunCom. It should save until you do a ClearStorage or flash a new ROM. I will look into the MMS settings. It could be the MMS I included is too old for 6.1.

Exitao - The changes with 6.1 as I understand it:

1. Copy & Paste

2. CHOME for Slider Home Screen, very similar, if not the same, as Neo (same filenames for images, etc.).

3. Getting Started, supposedly makes it easier to learn how to use the phone.

4. Supposed to be able to auto-complete name fields in SMS.

5. Threaded SMS.

6. Dual alarms. This is from Microsoft, I have not put any 3rd party apps in this ROM.

7. Recent Programs on first press of Start button.

8. Nina font as default instead of Segoe.

Those are the only real changes I am aware of.

hizad - I will post a CAB for the System Info fix tonight.

revanmj - Yes, I noticed nothing related to Security is working. It will require more investigation as to the cause. WM6.1 changed some security features. Also, the Bluetooth stack is from WM6 because the source ROM from Moto Q8 didn't come with a Microsoft Bluetooth stack so that could be the cause of some problems. The Q8 used a Widcomm stack customized for Motorola which might be a lot of work to implement. I would rather just wait for a WM6.1 with MS native Bluetooth if WM6's Bluetooth isn't fully compatible.

rainstorm - I can't reproduce the keypad backlight not working. Mine works fine. Does anyone else have this problem?

illi - I can't reproduce the problem with losing registry and time/date. What 3rd party apps did you install? I have NetCF3.5 and will put it in the next release after some testing.

mkloeckner - I can't reproduce the problem with Wifi not working, it works fine for me with just basic WEP. What settings are you using (WPA, WEP, LEAP, etc.)?

Yes, you will need the Button Fix because this ROM's button shortcuts are set up for the T-Mobile SDA (same as SP5m). The OEM part of the ROM is set up for a custom WM6 I made for my SDA awhile back which is why the TMO settings and SDA/SP5m button mappings.

iuliu - Is it just dark, or completely not working? If just dark, go to Reset Brightness. Anyone else's camera not work?

Pumpiron579 - I don't have a data plan so I can't help you with IMAP or POP, I hope someone else can help you with that or let me know what I need to do to fix it.
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
I'm gonna host this via direct HTTP on my site later :D and update my guide
[HTC Tornado] iuliu:
is dark.cool camera is dark.reset brightness dont work
[HTC Tornado] Pumpiron579:
If you use bluetooth, it is worth the upgrade. It is as fast as 6.0 builds.
[HTC Tornado] illi:
After flashing your 2nd build, the registry and clock seemed to be ok.

Thanks

Edit: I have NetCF3.5 installed to SDCard
[HTC Tornado] illi:
For imap, "cheat" the system with an invalid email domain eg. pumpiron579@xyzmail.com. You take it from there to complete the settings.

Activesync (mail2web.com) worked for me so does yahoo.com.

Thanks
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Perhaps you can save the T-Mobile settings to an installable cab, for those who need it, and remove it from the ROM for those who don't?

1. Copy and Paste? Really? I didn't notice, anyone figure it out yet?

2. CHome, I noticed similarity in the names too. It's not bad, maybe better than Neo. I'm sure that MS worked with T-Mobile so they could use this themselves. I think we will need customisability of tabs. Calendar panel should also have tasks.

3. Getting started is good for setting up common features. After that, it's good it's removable.

4. I'll have to try SMS. I'll report back.

5. Same as 4.

6. I assumed it was MS. But when I saw the second icon in the programs menu, it reminded me of active kittens Chronos Alarm. Same icon I think.

7. MRU, I mentioned this, I like it. Very useful.

8. I read that Nina is a problem for European users? Nina is good for Asian users though. I think it's best to keep a version of each, or a cab to alter.

Other suggestions:

a. Perhaps leave out xt9 and let us install et9 instead? I think most in this forum prefer et9.

b. Do you think we can have a version w/o CHome? I quite like it, but it still doesn't provide the PIM functionality that Facade would.

I would still like to see a version of CHome that would (de)activate with the right softkey. Contacts key is redundant, just press keypad and contacts come up. This would allow for functionality of PIM programs like Facade or PI, and GUI functionality of CHome.

c. Can we remove the sample pics from the ROM? Anyway to for it to view SD instead of ROM/RAM?

d. Please, keep up the great work. I'm going to put a little squashed gnat up on my altar of pagan dieties.
[HTC Tornado] hizad:
Thanks for the great work

Just it is me or there is problem on bluetooth because you cannot activate the beam causing you not to be able to receive any file transfer to you via bluetooth.

the other is you not be able to set the settings for MMSC Setting and video camera just freeze.

Regards
[HTC Tornado] illi:
I'm trying to put the DAY to the clock:confused:

There is this file in ROM, OMAP850_SDHC.dll, does it mean it support SDHC?

Maybe the catalog.exe and cataloginstall.exe should be removed.
[HTC Tornado] GnatGoSplat:
a. I think xT9 and eT9 are the same, the filenames for this version of xT9 are actually et9XXXXX. Are you talking about the old T9 used in Nitro's ROM? It is well... old. T9 and xT9 are both by Tegic, but xT9 is their newer product that replaced the old. Are you guys sure you want old stuff? :) In the StarTrek forum I used the old T9 and those guys complained they didn't want that old, obsolete T9 and wanted the newer xT9 product. :)

b. I could take it out, but I'd really not have to make several different versions. It's hard to keep track of and bugfixes would need to be applied to all versions. Is it possible to install Facade? I don't think using CHOME is mandatory.

c. I think you can delete the sample pics, I usually delete them from my phone. I can delete the sample pics from the ROM, but who knows, somebody might actually want them (though I can't image that). Yes, I'm pretty sure that's just a registry change to view photos from SD. I'll look into it.

d. LOL! :)
[HTC Tornado] Pumpiron579:
I don't want the older stuff. Leave it in. I like the change. You can allways install a t9 cab. I also liked windows 2000 Pro

CHome makes this rom different. I like it. I would not take it out.
[HTC Tornado] illi:
@GnatGoSplat

If you remove CHome, please cab it, I guess many would like to have it.

Thanks
[HTC Tornado] GnatGoSplat:
Unfortunately, CHome can't be cabbed which was why it was not possible to add Neo to WM6 via cab - it had to be cooked into the ROM. I think the best thing is just to leave CHOME there and those who don't like the new Sliding theme can just not use it. :)

No, unfortunately there is no SDHC support. I think there are no Tornado drivers for SDHC. I think the "HC" means Host Controller.

What do the catalog files do, and why should they be removed?
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
A. e/xt9 are different in the way they show suggested words and allow for "new" words. Nitro's and pretty much everyone else's is et9.

B. No problem. How hard would it be to remove it from/with a kitchen?

C. I do delete them, but if I hard reset, they come back. Means they they take space that could be occupied by more useful stuff. Anybody really wants them, I'll post them. :-P Thanks for looking into changing pic source to SD. You can see the results of my digging above.
[HTC Tornado] illi:
Thanks & good nite. I wanna sleep... Tired... whole day testing this wonderful ROM:cool:
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Try this guys, I found it at the Chinese forums, the file name was pretty self-evident.
[HTC Tornado] wanli:
Thank you!:D
[HTC Tornado] nCoder:
SDHC support on Tornado?!

Anyone confirm this one works?
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
I'll bet it does. I found it through a link in one of EA's posts. I don't have an SDHC card, so I can't test.

If you got one, follow the directions in the text file. Easy to follow, easy to back-up.
[HTC Tornado] markanthonypr:
Settings are not under Connections... GPRS. They are under MESSEGING. Highlight MMS.. then press MENU/Settings... then MENU/MMSC Settings... then again MENU... Options for New/Edit/Delete/Set Default are greyed out. Can't chose any.

Someone mentioned, "remove t-mobile and cab them" I really wish I could do a cab with my settings. Hate having to enter them manually every time. But I don't know how to cab:(
[HTC Tornado] markanthonypr:
Slidding Panel can be removed as easily as changing Theam. I like the fact that you are keeping it as Near Vanilla as posible Gnat. Everyone of us will need to do our little part to customize it to our taste and can share Cab files to customize. Fixing None-working issues or adding the ability to easily customize would be a better aproach. Don't jump on my guys,LOL Its just my opinion, I like the goodies too!

I haven't seen coments about speed. Not sure if its only to my eyes, but, I do notice this ROM very fast and Very responsive.
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Have you tried creating your MMS settings under connections, deleting the T-Mobile settings (if you don't use them) and then selecting your now premade MMS connection from Messaging?

If you look around, there are cabs for the various operator settings. Try searching "operator settings".
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
My thinking is that Facade requires to be installed on device. CHome takes up a bit of space.

To be able to remove it saves space. Stripped down version is not bad on a device with tiny memory like Tornado.
[HTC Tornado] markanthonypr:
Yes mate, I removed those and added the ones for Suncom Wireless. But the ones under Connections are only the GPRS connection settings. An MMS connection is created there to reference MMS, but the actual MMSC settings are the ones that tell the phone where to go download the MMS, and those are set under messaging.

Am reading about Creating a Cab :) Hopefully I'll learn how to make one soon. Thanks for your reply mate and for always being around!!
[HTC Tornado] mkloeckner:
ahaha. :D Anyone tried the alarm yet? It works - my phone woke me up, but I can't turn off the alarm any more. Only solution to stop the noise is to shutdown the phone. BUT: Whenever I restart it, the alarm goes on again! It's a vicious circle. :)

Anyone having the same problem?!
[HTC Tornado] bestever:
what is the diferense betwen wm6 and 6.1
[HTC Tornado] markanthonypr:
Alarms working great here!

Just tried it and it works fine here. But it surely served your purpose, didn't it? It woke you up and made sure you didn't go back to sleep :D LOL. Tried 2 alarms with 2 min apart, both went on in time and the Home Button turns them off.
[HTC Tornado] markanthonypr:
Read the thread around page 6 to 8 there is explanation from Exitao and Gnat.
[HTC Tornado] mkloeckner:
mmh. I managed to turn it off.. And a second alarm worked fine. Don't know what went wrong. :D
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Probably you didn't dismiss it properly and just silenced it so that it snoozed.

Bestever:

Don't be suc an @$$hat. Scroll up and read my long post.
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Those settings should be set in registry. Try poking around.
[HTC Tornado] revanmj:
Could someone tell me wich version of Windows Live mobile should work with Windows Live plugin in a Sliding Panel?

EDIT: for MMSC Setting we need to modify registry: HKLM>SOFTWARE>ArcSoft>ArcSoft MMS UA>Config>mm1>MMSCSetting> (Name of your settings, I got Orange one because I used HTC Configurator (It has some bugs so every time I need to modify this settings) if you don't have any setting use HTC Configurator (It can be found on MoDaCo, in Vox part of forum) and after that modify this settings

If you want Auto Complete function in "To:" field in SMS app, go to HKLM>System>Inbox>RecipientAutoComplete and change value of the string MaxSuggestions. from 0 to 4 for example
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
Good find. This should be enabled by default.
[HTC Tornado] markanthonypr:
Worked for me :) But... Its Monday and I gotta get back to work and I need my phone 100% for work purposes, so for now, my testings will stop till either this weekend or I decide on Playing with my 2nd SDA(which I've chosen to keep OEM for now) so back to Nitro's. I wonder how many times(if there is a limit) can I flash my phone??? I've heard that unlimited. Certain amount of flashes and the mem can't be flashed again... Is this true?
[HTC Tornado] GnatGoSplat:
0.1, lol! j/k :p

I have read 10,000 writes for some devices, and up to 100,000.

All I know is I've flashed all of my phones dozens of times with no ill effects.

http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/flash/flashendurance.asp

I don't think any of us, even the ROM cooks, will need to worry about hitting the limit.
[HTC Tornado] markanthonypr:
Well, being that the case, I could just play with it on daily basis, LOL that is if SPRITE BACKUP works. I am restoring a backup as we speak. Lets hope it works. Thanks for all your troubles Gnat. Grrrrr Sprite Failed restore :( !! sigh
[HTC Tornado] chp:
First off, GnatGoSplat, thanks for the builds!

My observations:

MMS: As others have noticed it is not possible to edit the MMSC servers through the GUI. I changed the configuration in the registry but haven't tested that it works.

JVM: Would it be possible to cook in the Esmertec Jbed instead of Esmertec Jeodek?

ClearType: ClearType is disabled in the ROM. It can be enabled using the standard registry entry: HKLM\System\GDI\Cleartype\Cleartype=1

Windows Live: 10.6.0033.0600 seems to install and work fine.
[HTC Tornado] GnatGoSplat:
Future versions will have Segoe w/cleartype instead of Nina. Exitao mentioned Nina being better for Chinese, and the core OS originally came from a Chinese ROM. So I'm thinking maybe Microsoft isn't really making a switch from Segoe to Nina, perhaps the Chinese ROMs always have Nina and WWE ROMs always have Segoe. If that was the case with WM5 and WM6, then it must be the case with WM6.1. I plan to make that assumption anyway, and change to Segoe.

What's the difference between Jbed and Jeodek? I used Jeodek because that's what I have and it's what comes on most recent WM6 Smartphones. I wouldn't know where to get Jbed.

I will look into the MMS, I'm sure it's a simple registry change.
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
90% of the ROMs I've viewed at the Chinese forums use Nina. There's a few use Yahei, but I'm fairly certain that Nina is the Chinese official font.

Someone can post a link to jbed for you if they want it bad enough. (right?) Assuming that it's not warez.

I have heard most people do prefer jbed.

I don't use either so I can't say...
[HTC Tornado] Pumpiron579:
For AT&T Users, all I had to do to get MMS and Wap to work is first I installed the cab I posted back in post 30# then I deleted T-Mobile MMS and T-Mobile Data found in settings/Connections/GPRS.

I have had no problems sending or receiving MMS, Live messenger, and IE works. Live Search and Google Maps.
[HTC Tornado] beer2nd:
About ClearType try this

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=911015&postcount=1

btw, anyone can fix the problem of IR&BT or not I can't send/receive any file from IR&BT
[HTC Tornado] knightcapain:
i can confirm that the new daylight savings needs to be looked at unless its just a rogers towers arent set to the correct time

is anyone able to see the contacts located in the sim in the contacts manager rather than the sim manager
[HTC Tornado] ppcvn:
How can I turn off T9 on this Rom ?
[HTC Tornado] markanthonypr:
Long Press * key and when menu pops up, chose ABC
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
I'm on Fido (subsidiary of Rogers) and DST worked like a charm. If not for the phone, I would have been late an hour.