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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
You said you would do a factory reset over the weekend.

That was a week ago.

why'd you change your handle btw it was confusing figuring out who i spoke to a week ago

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the web browsing is done over wifi and people said wifi was ok so that part of the test somewhat correlates with user experience

Usually i don't pay much attentin to automated tests ie ones where there is no human using the thing

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Do you use any app to track battery temps ?

I use 3c battery monitor. If your battery spends most of its time in the 40s that's yur problem right there.

It should ideally be either in the low to mid 30s. That is presuming you aren't out in the dry Delhi sun all day and in some ac room

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nopes. I say go ahead and do that reset.

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This is an important clue. If its getting warm doing nothing then it is doing something just that you can't tell what it is doing. Unless you figure it out your phone will be dual purpose as a hand warmer in a hot country which isn't very useful. Hence a reset did nothing because the problem in your case anyway lies some where else

How is your overnight drain btw ? over a period of 8h how much % battery do you lose

on wifi only

on data only

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As far as speed goes, how much free memory on the pixel/5T when seen in dev options - processes compared with the sammy ?

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oh wow he does a reset and now things are better

quelle surprise :D

You didn't reset before as you said, you just cleared cache, this can help with lag & battery life and is the first thing to try. because its less drastic than a reset. Doesn't always work though. Still, the option is at least there. It isn't with others, LG for instance. Only nuke and repave.

Let's see whether the heat thing comes back, it could just be something stuck that a reset fixes. Remember ota updates are nothing but dirty flashes, things can and do go wrong. A reset fixes things, generally speaking
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] awan39:
Other party voice is blocked in all call recording apps till now in Exynos variant of S9 & S9+
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
BP monitor is exclusive to the s9/s9+, so No, can't be used with the predecessors.

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Now, [MENTION=280390]Ur[/MENTION] queries:

1. Go to any store other than those two, and ask(bargain) including the paytm offers, how much they can reduce! It did work for me.

2. Its true that difference is not much at all to justify the price difference. I can go on and on with this and eventually will get back to the same conclusion that it's a very minor upgrade from the s8 series.

3. Again, here also I can write pages here, but End of the day, as per me, pixel 2 & 2 xl have better performing cameras OVERALL.

4. No, that case isn't enough for any kind of drop protection.

5.Probably it won't. Android central has an article on this saying If the VR's model number is SM-R325 or SM-R324 then your Gear VR will work, otherwise NO.

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I tried almost all call recorders on the s9 plus. Yet to find one that works flawlessly.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
Don't have the pixel 2 xl with me now, so can't say and never had to feel the need of checking it.

In the 5T about 2.8 gb and S9 plus(with most bloats disabled) about 1.8 gb available.

Samsung experience/touchwhiz has come a long way with improvements but still behind..

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I think u missed my msg.:) What I meant was I already factory resetted (did from recovery) that resets the settings as well (after ota update installed) and post setting up the phone, erased cache in recovery which is what I do after every ota install/full flash with every phone. Heat Issue was not resolved and so did that entire process another time from general management>Reset>Factory data reset and then erasing cache after setting up the phone. Issue remained same.

But heat issue resolved after I went to general menagament>Reset settings. This is weird.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Just to confirm again when you say 1.8GB, that's what you see in processes in Dev options ?

Can you post a screen shot of both showing this amount free

Whatever you're the second person in this thread that has done a reset and confirmed an improvement. Now can you tell us what your SOT's are like. Will be interesting to compare with your previous post.

The way people in the router community do custom flashing is. Before the flash. factory reset. After the flash, Factory reset again.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] v_square:
Yeah I know I thought about resetting the device. But someone in this thread itself advised not to. Plus I've been really busy off late. Can't afford spending a day setting this thing up again. On a side note, I followed a simple trick suggested by Galaxo60 . I turned off background activity for 'android system'. It seems to have a good overall impact. See the logs for yourself.

PS: Usage included browsing, whatsapp, few pics taken by camera, 2-3 other random apps.

Brightness was on auto, but since I was inside, it was around 20 to 30 percent.

Optimized mode under performance setting, AOD disabled, sync on, location on, resolution wqhd.

Most importantly, mobile data was on. It shows wifi enabled for the whole time because somehow wifi-scanning was on. :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
That was Virgo guy who then updated to say after he did another reset his heating troubles went away.

ok, so this is interesting.

SOT of 5h20 with 40% left in the tank.

Most importantly here is you are not on battery saving

AOD disabled is saving you 1-2%/h

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CPU States
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1.79 GHz (): 22 m 28 s 2.8%
1.69 GHz (): 5 m 7 s 0.6%
1.46 GHz (): 13 m 28 s 1.7%
1.25 GHz (): 7 m 22 s 0.9%
1.05 GHz (): 13 m 46 s 1.7%
949 MHz (): 8 m 10 s 1.0%
832 MHz (): 1 h 24 m 37 s 10.6%
715 MHz (): 23 m 30 s 2.9%
598 MHz (): 24 m 45 s 3.1%
[COLOR="SeaGreen"][B]455 MHz (): 2 h 48 m 43 s 21.2%
Deep Sleep (): 7 h 5 m 41 s 53.4%[/B][/COLOR]

Almost 75% of the 13h runtime was spent at 455Mhz or sleeping

There is a little confusion with how wifi whether on or not is reported.

wifi on says 19s which is proabably what you did

wifi running seems to be recording something else.

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Other Usage
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Deep Sleep (): 7 h 5 m 41 s 53.4%
Awake (Screen Off) (): 52 m 10 s 6.5%
Screen On (): 5 h 19 m 49 s 40.1%
Wifi On (): 19 s 0.0%
Wifi Running (): 9 h 13 m 2 s 69.3%
Doze Interactive Time (): 5 h 19 m 20 s 40.0%
Doze Idle Mode Time (): 5 h 9 m 27 s 38.8%
Sync (): 3 m 45 s 0.5%
No or Unknown Signal (): 1 m 32 s 0.2%
Poor Signal (): 1 m 53 s 0.2%
Moderate Signal (): 1 h 24 m 37 s 10.6%
[B][COLOR="SeaGreen"]Good Signal (): 9 h 44 s 67.8%
Great Signal (): 2 h 48 m 52 s 21.2%
[/COLOR][/B]Screen dark (): 3 h 32 m 37 s 26.7%
Screen dimmed (): 29 m 6 s 3.6%
Screen medium (): 51 m 29 s 6.5%
Screen light (): 6 m 29 s 0.8%
Screen bright (): 20 m 6 s 2.5%

89% of the time spent with good or great signal. Is that your usual reception ? should help with drain so long as the network isn't too congested

Can you quote here Galax60 making this suggestion ? it wasn't in this thread
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
Yes, in Dev options. Interestingly, the 5T is having more RAM hungry stuff running like nova launcher and battery suckers like Chrome browser and stuff.

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SOT is like 4 and half hrs to 5 hrs with about 17 hr run, and around 7 hrs with just around 11 hr run(both cases, BK disabler disabling about 50 services, apps and bloats except AOD, Bixby vision in the Samsung's. No disablers or any such in 5T.

1st ,5T

2nd, GS9 Plus.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
Well, I wish I did but couldn't . This is what I'm trying to convey that no matter how many times I factory resetted the device before or after, the "warm" nature wasn't removed. But "reset settings"(only settings, so there is a difference there) did the trick and I'm forced to think if it's due to some bug that factory resetting failed to click something that reset settings did.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
ok, this challenges my thinking on free ram then. 1.8GB free should be enough to run anything and quick. Fastest memory with the latest CPU

Am surprised how much system takes up. Still 2.5GB of RAM after debloating with BK disabler ?

oneplus at 2.9GB for system? seriously....

What is oneplus & sammy running in that 2.5GB (!)

Sammy reserves upto a gig just for the camera, so that might be it. What is oneplus' excuse, some sort of dedicated cache in RAM to speed things up..

Even though the oneplus has 8GB just 6GB is available which should put both phones on an even footing. Oneplus must be tweaking their UI somehow to give the perception of being faster.

the V30 takes up just 1GB with stock and no debloating. Possibly less with debloating

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You are saying there is an option called 'reset settings' that is different to factory reset ?

so there are in effect three options in recovery then

wipe cache

reset settings

factory reset

?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] v_square:
1. No.

2. Buying a phone is ultimately your call. If your priority is battery life, and you are bothered by black crush and color banding, it would be better to stay off S9+. And Samsung has publicly said that for them Exynos and Snapdragon are fairly equal, which is real bull****. Given their track record, Samsung is never gonna accept it or, issue an update which addresses this specific scheduler issue.

From my posts it may seem like I'm anti-Samsung. No. I genuinely enjoy their hardware, at least more than other companies. It's just that when they mess up, they mess up bad.

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I already mentioned wifi-scanning was on. That's the reason wifi is shown as running for 13hrs.

Yes majority of the time signal is great. Only when I'm travelling to work it fluctuates.

No that was probably in another thread. My best guess is 'S9+ Exynos Battery Benchmark' thread. From the look of things, it seems like disabling "background activity" for android system would break some thing or other. But untill now I haven't experienced anything negative. Plus, there's a huge improvement in battery life.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] v_square:
This option is within the phone settings itself.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] billubakra:
Thanks for replying.

1. Getting Note 8 for 60400 and S9+ for 62500. Smart cafe/shop owners told me to buy from paytm and get addtional 10k and 9k cashback respectively. I wanted to buy it in my friends firm name but paytm wont mention gst number on invoice. Please guide.

2. 3. Thanks

4. Which is a good case then, which is also screen protector friendly?

5. How to find the model number on the vr? With the s7 there was an offer to get the vr at 50% off. Any offer this time.

Why aren't the call recorders working? Any explanation by Samsung? Try acr and boldbeast also.

Battery I can handle, but wait black crush and color banding, what the heck is this and is everyone facing this in our country?

If I use the same Samsung and Gmail account that I am using in the S7 in the S9+, fingers crossed no budget as of now though, then will it work simultaneously on two phones at the same time?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
No idea what Sammy and OnePlus doin' with that RAM(6 gb both), but certainly oneplus doing it better even with older SoC. Sammy had never been good at RAM management and it still holds true today even though much improved over the generations.

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No, no such "reset settings" in recovery. Wipe cache and factory data reset only in recovery, both didn't fix. Also, Settings>General Management>Reset>Factory data reset didn't fix.

But, Settings>General Management>Reset> Reset settings DID work.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
it shows up in the bbs stats regardless of whether scanning is on or not from memory with other phones

He mentioned it here with directions how to disable background activity.

I'm unable to tell with the BBS logs what effect this had, only an idle BBS log with screen on under a minute and compared with your previous might say what got turned off. I am assuming moment the screen is on it will resume activity, the effect here is it allows the phone to sleep better ie remain at a lower clock speed.

Anyway post your sot when you're down to 5%. and lets see whether you can maintain that SOT cnsistently

Evidently your reasons for phone heating are different to Virgo guy
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] v_square:
In my opinion every S9+ plus on the planet suffers from this. Degree varies. And you notice it or not is yet again another story. I thought it was a no-issue. But once I started reading this thread, I definitely could reproduce the issue. What's worse, it's a screen calibration issue, which doesn't effect the regular S9 somehow. Goes on to show that both panels are different and need different tuning. Seems like Samsung just blatantly used same profile for both panels. Works fine in regular S9, but not in S9+.

Also, these 2 issues are inherent to amoled technology and currently no device in the market is devoid of them. So basically if you're getting an amoled, these issues would be there. But the important part is, how much? Upto a certain degree it's acceptable, but not more. Have a look at this thread.

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/colour-blending-blacks-problem-t3765385/page38

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Keeping a record of battery stats. Will dump all together. Regarding the 5 percent thing, I plugged into a charger before leaving the office.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] billubakra:
[MENTION=5310268]v_square[/MENTION]

Thanks for explaining it and for the link. Never noticed it in the s7 though but people are saying otherwise about the s7e. Also in that thread its mentioned that an update was rolled out, did it help?

Besides battery and this screen issue, any other con about this phone? From where did you get your phone, via paytm?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] v_square:
It is present on all amoled screens. Point is, whether you notice it or not. Since I've been using Amoled since galaxy S2, I've grown accustomed to it. Also, the degree by which it is present is also important. In S9+, if you watch videos in a dim environment, you'll surely notice it. But personally I don't think it's a deal breaker.

Regarding battery life it's a hit or miss. One day you may get good enough results. Next day you may be gasping for juice. It's not better than S7 edge for sure, compared to when that phone came out. I used to get consistent 6 to 7 hours SoT without turning anything off.

And I bought it from reliance digital store under buyback program. They were offering 70% buyback if I use their sim, otherwise 60. I opted for the latter since I don't like Jio to be honest. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] billubakra:
Thanks. What are the terms and conditions of the reliance store? And how much did you pay exactly? Not finding a good deal anywhere.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Killer333:
In case if you need a tempered glass for S9+, I recommend this one:

Sparkling Trends™ Premium Case Friendly 3D Tempered Glass Screen Protector for Samsung Galaxy S9 PLUS 6.2 Inch (Black) - https://www.amazon.in/dp/B07BFJ7281/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_zjz1AbP4FTCG2

At first i thought i would never use a tempered glass or a case. But later, i realised that i should get them for sure.

I've tried many tempered glass products and most of them doesnt fit properly, doesnt stick firmly and most of all, you'll have unresponsive touch screen. For this, you've to increase the touch sensitivity.

After many trials, i found the above as perfect and satisfactory. It sticks firmly, its clear, touch response is awesome and smooth. You dont need to increase the screen sensitivity. It works very well. And its a case friendly tempered glass.

You may feel some glare issues. But its a minor issue.

So, before applying, place it on screen and check for touch response etc. If you dont like it, you can return it.

And for case, Im using Spigen Neo Hybrid Case

Clear case would be good at first. but, after sometime it will turn yellow, dirty and doesn't look good.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] v_square:
Just don't break anything. It should be in working condition. Normal wear and tear is acceptable. You can give the device back between May,19 to July,19. I paid full amount 72900 INR, plus 500 INR buyback program fee. Since I paid through HDFC credit card, I got 6000 INR cashback.

When I return the device next year, they would be offering me 40K. Important part is, those 40K can only be used to buy something from their store only. But that's okay with me since they have every major flagship available at launch. And most probably I would be buying another phone when I give it back. Not a bad deal in my opinion. Flipkart and all would only offer around 15 to 20 after a year under their exchange program.

To sum up, I paid 27400 INR to use S9+ for 15 months. Works for me :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
I wonder if it actually works!!! I ordered this tempered glass from amazon India and received it, applied it with utmost precision and you know what? This is one hell of a garbage tempered glass screen protector. Why???

Reasons:

1. It has the infamous rainbow effect and while using it feels like using a 6k,7k phone with a very low quality screen.

2. The sides do not stick properly, a "gap" remains.

3. Touch response is not good, even after increasing the touch sensitivity in settings.

I bought it after seeing 6,7 nice verified buyers reviews(all reviews r given by seller's kin I believe) in amazon.in. Once I came to know that this one is of really low quality, I wanted to write few words as a review to help other potential buyers. But astonishingly!!! you cannot review it:( BCOZ there, the product is always in "pre-order state" no matter when u purchase, and tags it as "not released yet" even after delivery and you can only pre-order it and will be delivered very soon once ordered. Its a "trick" by the seller and Amazon India already confirmed it to me and working on a resolution so that customers don't get cheated.

*Plz see the screenshot below(I bought this product).
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Killer333:
You were right about the reviews. And yeah, we cant write a review.

Coming to the product, I don't see any rainbow effect or unresponsive touch issues. no gap as well.

I did not even enable the sensitivity option and it works great. Only issue I've is normal Glare and sometimes fingerprint smudges. Other than that, It has some small minute dots which can be seen or visible in bright sunlight.

For me, Its fine.

I'll try to take a video and post it here.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
What's the reason behind "very inconsistent battery life" of the s9 plus?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aj7400:
For me the android system is taking alot of battery,

Any idea what is that?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
Not much in my case I believe, need to dig more into it to get an insight with yours. But hey, atleast u r getting good battery life it seems, unlike mine.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aj7400:
How to check whats causing android system to drain so much battery
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] v_square:
You can do what I did. Go to battery menu. Tap android system. Disable background activity. Done.

You got to take care though. Once you restart the device, it turns on automatically.

I've experienced better battery life than before by doing so. Give it a shot and report back.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Apps you use that depend on android ? everything gets lumped in there, services etc

if you're getting almost 5h of sot with battery just past the half way mark i'd ignore it
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aj7400:
I am getting 5 h sot with 100% battery
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
How ?

Your screen shot says 4h43 SOT with a runtime of 13h19m with battery left as 45%

Ohh you have charged the thing in between which means your screen shot is misleading and hence useless
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aj7400:
Hahaaha ... check the graph ,

It has been charged by approx 50 % within the usage .

So you need to open your eyes and see first and then comment
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] billubakra:
Guys check this out

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S9_ShootOut_1s.htm
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
How about you post proper graphs to begin with ?

You deserve to be slapped for posting BS like this!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aj7400:
You know what , i am not here on xda to fight .

Come in real life infront of me and ill thrash you like crazy , and you wil remember your whole life
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Do as you are told or figure your **** yourself moron.

You were slapped now fcuking learn. I dont wast my time with idiots like you
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aj7400:
****ing *****

your parents might be regretting why they brought a ****** like you on this planet.

You dont deserve to live , go die.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
yep here is an prime example of a fool who cant learn. hehe

i've made an example of you so others don't post the same nonsense.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
Given that price gap is low between the note 8 & s9 plus, any discount by the seller + official paytm cashback is a good deal, what matters is where u r get the highest discount without compromising on genuine sources.

Note 8 has somewhat better battery life, S9 plus(Exynos) has inconsistent and lower battery life with similar performance. If I wr u, I would go with the s9 plus just to sell in max 6 months or so(eyeing on note 9/pixel 3 xl or iPhone...).

PayTm has an option to input details for gst claims and such, irrespective of seller gives or not, paytm should and will, (paytm provides another bill post product delivery) if u update those inputs first in paytm account. Just talk to paytm first just in case...!!

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I tried 2 cases - spigen ultra hybrid and liquid air(tried all spigen cases on different phones in the past), first one is just better as it grips the phone very well, non slippery and can provide drop protection upto an extent without giving much bulk keeping the phone transparent, only gripe is the case becomes yellowish over time but that's a non-issue for me.

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To find the vr model no, follow this:

https://m.vrheads.com/how-find-your-gear-vr-model-number

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No offer or such regarding vr this time around so far, I believe.

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Why would Samsung explain for 3rd party call recorders not being compatible!! it's not even legal in few countries.

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Acr etc. don't work fully, I tried as I said earlier.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion] billubakra:
Thanks for replying. Can you please share paytm's link where it is being sold? Not able to find it.

Those spigen cases will mess up the screen protectors.