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[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] munchy_cool:
icloned. I personally will never buy a device which is copy of an iPhone. During the presentation they seemed proud of it, heck they even called it the Fruit Phone X. Asus has just lost it, as has all the other OEMs who copy the Apple notch whether it be Moto, Vivo, Xiaomi, Oppo, LG. I would rather switch to Apple instead.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] cheeze.keyk:
Hoping it also. :fingers-crossed:
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Gborg3:
Looking at price and specifications of the 5Z, as long as it's available with some kind of bootloader unlock then this is my preferred flagship beater. A single AOSP based rom like AICP or CRDroid for it and I'll be happy as long as we keep it up to date.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] rav101:
This!

This phone looks like really good hardware and actually from what little ice read, I'm seeing that Asus have gone a lot closer to stock with the software as well.

If the bootloader can be easily unlocked then all it needs is one AOSP ROM (which given it will be treble enabled shouldn't be too hard) and we are a go.

I really do think this will be a good device for them. With treble being mandatory for all phones shipping with Android 8, it should take away a lot of anxiety from manufacturers who provide poor software updates as long as the bootloader can be unlocked
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] cheeze.keyk:
well. we could ask the devs from ZF3 and ZF4 [MENTION=8232311]planet9[/MENTION] [MENTION=1813976]shakalaca[/MENTION] [MENTION=5261746]anhenrique[/MENTION] if they will get the ZF5.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] fcuk90:
Looking forward for zenphone 5 with s636 price around below 400 and BL unlocked and source code release!
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] fastjohnson:
Seriously drooling over this 5z the specs are killer, as far as the notch I could care less that it resembles a essential p1. The specs the aspect ratio is spot on. Think it may be my next device after it's been out for a few months and see how it rolls. Hopefully Asus keeps the major updates coming for it and a place in the modding community. That sd845 tho.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ascertion:
I am considering this device. It seems to tick all of my boxes. I do wish it was waterproof, but for the price I'm strongly considering it anyways. Does anyone know Asus reputation with RF performance?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] inashell:
What's RF..???

Addition : RF performance is pretty good.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] rav101:
I think it's radio frequency, ie if this phone gets good phone reception.

There is also SAR (specific Absorbtion Rate). This is something that measures how much radiation a phone outputs to your body when the phone is at a certain distance. This is something that should be spoken about more. Phones can up the power for a better signal but it should be the optimisation of phone strength without outputting more radiation into your body.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] inashell:
Thanks for telling about about RF. And I knew about SAR, still:good:
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] prashantmahto:
My asus zenfone has heating issue. It is getting hot after 10 ,15 min
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Note10.1Dude:
If this were offered in a Google Play Edition I would jump all over it. ASUS bloat and support, no thanks.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maor545:
Asus told me via their FB account, that USB2.0 stated on GSM arena is incorrect. So afterall there is hope, that the SD636 version will be one of the first midrangers with proper USB3.1 with all its perks!

I just wish, that asus doesn't screw up something on the phone, because so far it looks like a killer phone.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
The Moto Z3 Play will include the same SOC, so we'll see. I'm unsure of when the 5 will release outside of Asia, but they need to move quickly. :cowboy:
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] cheeze.keyk:
I don't think so. look at their Zenfone 3 models its already running android Oreo unlike other companies that still stuck on nougat.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] prashantmahto:
some time it's good but some time hang too much
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maor545:
SD636 version launched today in Taiwan and Singapore. I just hope they already have it on display in Taipei ASUS stores.

price 12000TWD cca 400USD is nice compared to Zenfone5Q
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] justyourimage:
delete me
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maor545:
well, they updated zenfones 3 to Oreo and since this supports project Treble, there really does not need to be any outstanding support from ASUS. If it has global LTE support and supports USB 3.1 and alternate modes, it would not have any competitor for the price. There are not many phones to have NFC and good camera in this price range.

Just wait a few days to get complete specs.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
The 5Z was already confirmed to be $499 for the Western market. I'm sure the ZF5 will be under $399 (maybe 299-349) in the US/EU. Other markets might pay more, but you have to factor in the value of their currency and differences in the markets.

Asus has to compete with Huawei, Moto, Sony, ZTE, Essential, and whatnot in NA & EU. I doubt they would price the normal ZF5 at $399 considering the competition. Most people buy phones via installment plans in the US, not off contract. Setting the price too high is like commercial suicide.

I guess we'll see what happens by July!
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
ZF5 comes with FM, notifications LEDs, 3.5mm audio jack, stereo speakers, SD card, dual SIM with a wide range of bands, NFC, all three GPS networks, etc. Many flagships are missing the features...

Too bad it's got the notch :(
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] prashantmahto:
Ya, I agree with you
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Taskman:
Zenfone 5Z looks nice. Sure it's cloned much from iPhone.

The Zen UI have become much better. ZF2 was horrible in thes regard. ZF3 and the new ui became much better(still not good) and ZF4 made ZenUI actually quite OK.

Camera is looking very nice and takes good pictures but not all the way up to Pixel 2 or S9 quality, which wasn't expected really.

If I'm not mistaken they also allow BL unlock with tool for most of the newer phones (ZF3 and ZF4) so ZF5 should ged it too.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maor545:
ZF5 comes in three versions: A, B, C

The B is on sale in Taiwan. the A version has nice support of LTE bands :

FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28, 32)

TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41)

WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 19)

EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz)
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
I only heard of the Z. Where do you get this info?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maor545:
ZF 5z is different model with SD845.

For ZF 5, there are 3 versions with different LTE support. It should be already on official website of ASUS.

Also is possible, that version A will be 5z and 5 has Asian version B and EU/global version C.

Specs update: So today ASUS replied to my support ticket, so I have confirmed from the engineers, that the USB is only USB 2.0 and no DisplayPort alternate mode support.

So still Huawei Mate 10 and galaxy s8 make the two cheapest phones with all the bells and whistles. I do not think the 5z will bring us any feature update.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] WeBMaZTaH:
I currently own the new ZenFone 5. And it's already awsome. I did compromise on the notch but between Zenfone 5 and Zenfone 5Q/Lite, i chose zenfone 5 because of the usb type c and AI.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] kitchenfork:
Any chance of a mini review (camera, screen quality, battery life, software etc.)? I have been eyeing this off out of all the mid-range phones and am close to pulling the trigger. I really hope the bootloader is unlockable.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] hands0m3:
Just bought the Zenfone 5 ZE620KL off eBay for $399 will be here monday.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] WeBMaZTaH:
Here is the Review of ZenFone 5 by Yugatech. Group of Filipinos who reviews latest gadgets locally and internationally. Think of the like Android Authority. ?

[youtube]xRc8vc_h2gc[/youtube]

Let me see. I have some samples here. Here's the link from my Google Photos. All shots are in Auto Mode.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/I0B4VTkabAAJtXiE2
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ashenphoenix:
I just received my Zenfone 5 a few hours ago. Is this supposed to be the xda forum for the Zenfone 5 too (not only 5Z)? Because there is a Zenfone 5 forum, but it's about the old Zenfone 5, which was released about 2 years ago.

I switched from a Moto X Pure, I loved that device and used it for 2 and a half years.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
Despite the numbering, the 636's CPU is actually between the 821 and 835. Single core performance is very close to 821, but multi is 5000 or so. Multi for 821 maxes out around 4300-4500 in GB4. GPU isn't near the 821, probably closer to the 808. So yeah, the CPU is more than sufficient for everyday tasks! Keep in mind the Pixel/XL relied on that CPU.

Dunno if I'll buy it, haven't seen any info regarding treble yet or a solid US date. Also, we need B66 & 71 in the US (T-Mobile). Moto Z3 Play is supposed to have the 636 too, let's see which is cheaper.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] people211:
sample pic I took with the Zenfone 5
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] people211:
Another
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] JamesFoster:
I like the design and looks of the hardware. The price is very good value. I'm not going to complain about the LCD display for £500. My problem is that Asus are doing an awful job of communicating the release date and availability. They seem to have a problem getting their phones out through the Networks. And the Zenfone 4 is available through the CarphoneWarehouse. But only online and a few big stores. Even Amazon UK are regularly out of stock. Finally there is the issue of ZenUI. I hate it. I don't want a rubbish launcher. I want stock themes and notification tray, and stock apps and stock settings. I don't want dozens of garbage pre-installed Asus apps (that can only be disabled). Also Asus could do a much better job on supporting and updating their devices.

All in all my next phone will probably be either Oneplus 6 or Motorola Z3. And HTC U12+ as an outside choice.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] EMJI79:
Did you take those with stock camera app?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Renaf2:
i buy zenfone 5 ZE620KL 6.2" 4GB RAM SDM 636 (1.8GHz) i'm happy with it i have the Galaxy S8 and i find the zenfone 5 very good for the price and performance and zenui pixel interface is not bad ; just the settings are ****ty very ****ty XD
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
Can you hide the notch like on the LG G7?

The 5 will more-or-less release by July 2018 in western markets, because they need to get the 5Z out too. Zenui appears to be a major departure from the older version, including far less bloat. I feel it's closer to Grace UX now. Personally, I might choose the Z3 Play depending on availability.

And it's android, there are literally hundreds of launcher alternatives on the store. The phone is probably treble compliant, which means someone will try to boot an image of stock android, or even a custom ROM like on the Mate 10.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] JamesFoster:
The HTC 12+ is out of the question and the Oneplus 6 too. Coz I don't want a glass backed phone. The only advantage of a glass backed phone is wireless charging. It is too slippery, too heavy but worst of all too breakable. Even with a case you can still get a small crack which will then become a big crack. So it looks like the Asus 5Z or the Moto Z3 Force will be the only games in town. Asus have slimmed down the ZenUI and removed many useless apps. Plus it looks like they are sticking with Oreo notifications. And Nova launcher prime takes care of the home screen.

Everyone knew in the iPhone 4/4S days that the glass sandwich design was highly vulnerable to damage. I will take 7000 series Aluminium, stainless steel, Titanium or Magnesium alloy, Polycarbonate even soft touch ABS plastic over glass. I'm ignorant about the ceramic materials as used on the HTC U11+ and Essential Phone. Better than Gorilla Glass I guess.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Renaf2:
For now i can't hide the notch like the LG G7 But Maybe in the Future update by Asus Or The Solution on the App in the Playstore
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
I'm you on this. That's why to me, the OnePlus 3T, with its metal body and 16:9 proportions, is still much better than the great majority of stuff coming out today. You can tell the new devices are all about looks, but made to be disposable. And of course, the manufacturers want you to get a new phone every few months, so if it cracks or breaks, all the more reason to do so.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Renaf2:
Screenshots of Zenfone 5 2018 ZE620KL ;) :

Stock Rom with Zenui no theme, just wallpaper is changed

I buy the zenfone 5 ZE620KL Device (with notch , face unlock , animoji , IA) 399 €uros but you can find it cheaper

I do not trust the Benchmark tests but I still put the score on Antutu Benchmark for info :

Zenfone 5 Stock Rom with Booster IA Activated : 139 267

Samsung Galaxy S8 Renovate Ice Rom : 207 016
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] JamesFoster:
I ordered the Razor phone from 3 (Mobile network in the UK) because it is insanely cheap. But also because they have used a full metal jacket. I returned it because the screen is not bright enough for my taste. Samsung really screwed up with the Galaxy S3, S4 and S5. They used cheap rubbish plastic. HTC used quality polycarbonate on the HTC One X. I'm careful with my phones. But I still drop my phone once a year or so. I hope this all glass trend (which is made worse with tiny bezels, smaller frames and huge glass screens) dies.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] chuckRN:
Here's the full phone specs of ze620kl from the official asus website.

And some screenshots from cpu-z.

I also tried rhe service mode code from ze551ml which is *#*#4636#*#* and it worked but it's very limited.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] WeBMaZTaH:
Hey bro! How did you made that screenshot long?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] grodri19721:
Ok guys here's my review coming from Sony Experia premium zx with 835SD this phone is pretty quick too very smooth camera works great i think it takes better pictures yoo so far im Happy can't complain
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ashenphoenix:
Just a few notes: I have a Zenfone 5 and I wanted to share some great things: Treble support, bootloader unlock tool on ASUS website, Fingerprint API support, camera2 API support.

3 software updates so far, and a bigger one is coming in mid-June with lots of fixes and probably Android 8.1.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] kitchenfork:
What's the screen like? Good colours and contrast etc.? I will be coming from an S8 (AMOLED) so just wondering in general what the screen quality is like.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Renaf2:
I have the S8 and the ZenFone 5 ZE620KL and the colors of the screen is good ....
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
What about battery life or SOT?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Renaf2:
Very Good SOT better than my S8

Actually i have 63% but it's a second day without charging
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ashenphoenix:
I changed from a Moto X Pure, sceeen is a lot nicer (you can also customize it and there's AI too, which changes screen color temperature, if you like it).

Battery is about 5hrs sot from 100% to 0%.

Some photos I took: https://photos.app.goo.gl/u3neMD4SA0xriOU53
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] grodri19721:
Camera is great how can we get pixel camera to work on our devices
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] chuckRN:
Once you do a screenshot, some options are gonna show up in the bottom. One of them is to take long screenshots. It's very similar to the scrolling screenshot option on samsung phones.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Renaf2:
Another screenshots battery life
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] mrsato:
There are so many devices that have a notch and two cameras on the back, along with a fingerprint reader. And for the record, Apple/iPhone was not the first to do those things. I'm so sick of people crying iPhone clone. It's not a f'g clone. MOST flagship or near flagship phones are like this. It's not cloning, it's following trends, which is all Apple did.

All that said, I too am hoping this will be the first Zenfone that actually gets good love in here in terms of development. Seems it's unlockable and rootable already, so it's encouraging. For the price it's a good phone, maybe great.

Personally, I like my OnePlus 5T better, but given you can get the Zenfone 5 for $85 cheaper, it might be more attractive to some.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] grodri19721:
Coming from Sony Experia zx premium i have the Sd 636 just a little bit slower than my sony but i rather stay with the Asus guys sound is better plus you can do alot more with this phone
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] chuckRN:
So, asus finally answered my question.

In GSMArena, it says there that the corning gorilla glass used was unspecified. The rep from asus zentalk just confirmed that they used the corning gorilla glass 3. I think they used the same for the zenfone 5z.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] gtchs:
Thanks for the info. I've been wondering about that. I love the phone so far and I'm usually pretty good with not getting damage or scratches but I've been thinking of getting the OnePlus 6 and this is one of the reasons (it has GG5).
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Wulung:
Mostlikely will be my next phone, replacing my old S7.

Already launch in Indonesia, with Z5 highest model (8GB/256GB) SRP is $528. Same as the OP6 lowest model. Yet, some different, LCD vs OLED and microsd slot vs none.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] deadwrong03:
waiting on this most likely to replace my zte axon 7. just worried about the us version i noticed its missing. band 12 for T-Mobile

---------- Post added at 01:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 AM ----------

He's saying it works on TMobile

I'm just worried about the lack of band 12

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/bK8jXILWjzc[/YOUTUBE]
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] medo18:
Please can you provide us the website to buy this phone?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] grodri19721:
Yes please provide Website where to buy
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ace42:
There's no reason to worry, he imported the Asian variant from Gearbest. Its band list is incomplete for T-Mobile & AT&T. When Asus officially launches the 5/5z in North America I expect 2, 4, 12, 66, and 71 for T-Mobile. B46 and 252/255 would be nice, but highly unlikely for either model.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] aserate:
Am i the only one who has selfie pic quality that sucks? I know it's not the best but judging from reviews on ytube, mine is far from it. It looked like they were taken with a 3 mega pixel front cam. Z5 user here.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Morak75:
What's your parameters?

I got no problem with selfie mode. ZF5 too.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] aserate:
Im sorry but what do you mean by parameters?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Morak75:
Well did you change something ? Have you tried with or without HDR mode? 4/3 mode ?

Show us a pic to see the issue
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] aserate:
Yesterday I already have tried various parameters (4:3,16:9/hdr,non-hdr etc.) but it still looks horrible. After i updated earlier, the HDR was working and i got better results but sometimes it wont work again. Ill post later the HDR and non HDR pics

---------- Post added at 12:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:14 PM ----------

On a different issue, is there a switch for ai camera? My cam somehow wont recognize any scenes? Although i once saw it recognized a scene but for only a second and that was it, the icon disappeared.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] ben_linux:
Yes I find it quite bad too. It's ok in good light but the HDR doesn't seem to work (even if you force it), it's often surexposed.

For front cam I use a Google camera mod, it does the job better.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] aserate:
Can you give me the link of gcam you used? Much appreciated.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] ben_linux:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7-Final.apk
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] aserate:
Just installed. It force closes immediately after opening :/. The pixel3mod worked but im getting vignette on hdr mode both front and rear cam. :(
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] aserate:
Coming from nexus 6p, i must say I'm pretty disappointed with this cam's quality :( 6p's hdr is tad bit slow but the quality is night and day compared to zf5. Dxomark's score is trash
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ashenphoenix:
Well the Nexus 6P still has one of the best cameras available. I'd say only Samsung Galaxy S9+ and Pixels are better. I think the Huawei P20 Pro creates awful photos.

Back to the Zenfone 5: Don't forget this only costs about 340EUR/$400 and I think for the price photos are pretty great (I'm coming from a Moto X Pure and the photos are way better with the Zenfone 5). Some images I took: https://photos.app.goo.gl/u3neMD4SA0xriOU53
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] aserate:
Maybe i got a defective one?

What mode did you use to take those pics? Auto or pro? Hdr?

And can you post some selfies too so i can compare more? I'd really appreciate it
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] aserate:
Anyone got a lag when pulling down quick settings and there are a couple of notifications? Like the animation of quick setting icons isn't smooth kind of lag
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] grodri19721:
Yes i have the same issues but overall very nice phone
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] aserate:
Aside from often cam and quick settings lag issues, i have no complaints. But they're quite annoying
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  Guides, News, & Discussion] ben_linux:
I' ve got the Z5 and trust me, the camera is way better than the Nokia 7+ and the Honor 10, which I sent back to Amazon.

I can't understand how reviewers can say that the Z5 is a "good" camera, ant the H10 is " fantastic" when the H10 is clearly inferior.

dXo for the first time ever, seems to have made a review correctly. However I find the wide angle useless, as there is too much noise. 8mgpx is not enough for a wide angle I guess.

PS: Asus is aware of the pulling down bug when a notification like Google Music or Spotify is active, they said that they are working on it to fix the issue in the next update.