yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] acejavelin:
Moto has only said that this device would get it, there was NEVER a time frame given. Since Lenovo purchased Moto, the timeline for updates has increased dramatically but in general if they say they will release it then it does get released, eventually. The only official announcement that has ever been given regarding Oreo is in their blog on September 14, 2017... there has not been any other official announcement or statement to my knowledge. Chat's with customer service, posts on forums, Android news outlets that don't confirm with verifiable sources (ie. official links), are NOT official.

Nougat for the Moto X Pure, Moto's flagship device for 2015, is a great example. In October 2016 it was officially announced the device would get Nougat, but it wasn't until September 2017 that the update STARTED a phased multi-month public roll-out, beginning with T-Mobile & US Cellular users, then Sprint users, and after a month or two then Verizon, AT&T and other users got it (with a minor version bump, presumably because there was something that the two big brothers didn't like in the OS because there was zero user complaint or issues with the one T-Mobile users got). It wasn't until January 2018 that all users finally got it. To our knowledge, MFN beta tests began sometime between February and April 2017, and had lots of problems with at least a dozen confirmed bricked devices, with at least 4 major revision changes until August 2017, which seems to be the "finalized" version that actually went to release. And remember the first sentence, this was a flagship device, not even a mid-ranger like the G line...

Let that sink in for second. Not saying that the Moto G5 series will be the same, the example given is probably worse than normal, but still it could take that long or longer.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] yourSAS:
Double negative makes a positive ;)

Let's hope for the best (because that's all we can do)
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] amarz1981:
There is a bald manager in Motorola division who is playing politics to launch Oreo
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smitharro:
Well, if everything is going according to plan, the Moto G6 Plus will probably ship soon. If so, I will buy that phone.

My Moto G5 Plus wil then (probably) never have received official Oreo. That's what Lenovo needs us to do to survive: buy new phones!

I don't agree with that policy, but it's understandable. That Moto G6 Plus will probably ship with Oreo and never receive Android P before I buy a new model. It is what it is.

The reason I keep buying the Moto series, is the usually reasonably good support on custom roms: at the moment of this writing I'm running Oreo 64 bit (LineageOS) smoothly on my Moto G5 Plus. Furthermore it's good value for your money!

So: by the time Android P arrives I'll probably switch to a custom rom on my Moto G6 Plus for a while until the next phone ships.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
You're right that kind of policy is understandable but not fair for the customers so on the long run Lenovo will loose customers. Before Motorola was sold to Google and then to Lenovo imo the main reasons to buy a Moto device was good value for the money, almost stock android and fast updates, beside the good support for custom ROMs.

That's why Motorola had users with a high brand loyalty. That's going to change if you promise something to your customers and neglect it later.

We both had a Titan (I remember you from the thread there) which was a really good device for the money in 2014. I bought this one for similar reasons, good price, stock like android and a bit brand loyalty. The promise to get Oreo wasn't the main reason but it was a point counting for the 5+.

I'm not willing to buy a new device every year and if this device won't get Oreo I have to overthink if my next phone will be a Motorola/Lenovo again.

OEM's should sometimes think in longer intervals and not always run for the fast money.

Apple and Samsung already have most of the cake, if smaller manufacturers want their piece too it's important to not loose customers, they won't come back in most cases. Honesty and reliability may kind of old fashioned values but they are high rated by customers. Maybe that's how Lenovo can survive on the long run.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smitharro:
I mostly agree with you! But still I think it's good value for money, in spite of the lack of updates.

Of course I considered buying a Google Pixel phone to be sure of regular updates. But the prices of those phone are way higher...

Once Lenovo took over the Moto branch they had to cut costs or give up the Moto phones all together. Unfortunately they chose to cut down on development.

Then again: this is the downside of Android phones all together: updates sink in way too slow. Also with the 'big boys' like Samsung.

Solution: buy an IPhone! No, just kidding, that's the last one on my list... [emoji6]
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ElGuapo315:
Might as well buy a BLU phone at that rate with zero updates promised.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
Agree, it's a great device for the money with or without updates.

And about iPhones: Last on your list? It isn't on my list at all ;) If someone gifted me one it would be faster on eBay than one can say "fanboy phone"...:)
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] NoAngel777:
Go for it. Maybe they'll release Oreo for G5 soon after You buy it :)

BTW I got second security update for Moto G5 this month, first was Nov.2017 patch, which I got last week, and found it to be released 5 months after official announcement on their support page. Yesterday I woke up and saw an update notification which shows Jan.2018 security fixes, includes "KRACK" fix. 2 updates per month, that's a lot for such phone. maybe maybe we get Oreo next :fingers-crossed:
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smitharro:
Dream on...
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] For_itembine:
Agreed it's great even on Android 7. I wouldn't be upset if my iPhone 7 plus or Nokia 8 got stolen and all I had to use was this phone. It's really good. When they update I hope it's 8.1 and not 8.0 tho. I mean this phone feels faster than my mate 8 and that was a flagship 2 years ago
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] GtrCraft:
This logic is so dumb. You buy a new phone for the next android version but if the version after that releases you will flash it with custom roms.

The G5 Plus will get P too with custom roms so you are basically wasting your money.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smitharro:
The new android version is, of course, not the main reason I'll buy a new phone. That would, indeed, be dumb. But, also a better camera, a larger screen, a faster processor and more storage space are strong reasons. In fact, they are the mean reasons! And yes, I'll start using custom roms as soon as they are somewhat stable on my next phone.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M1810:
What i don't like about custom rom's is that they change some stuff (charging off) and other stuff remains stock (low battery advise when device is off) and that makes me crazy.. i prefer an outdated os but all stock than a new os with mixed stuff.. that's why i can't stand windows computers UI...
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] robinjnrocks:
Great experience with Moto ?

Moto will not release Android 8.0 Oreo for Moto G5 plus until they did not launch Moto G6 plus with Oreo 8.0, these days this is what Moto strategy is. You want an update then buy a new Moto phone wow ?

Great clap for Motorola for not able to provide Android Oreo 8.0 in 8 months for Moto G5 plus, this really gives me really positive experience?.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] riggerman0421:
Don't feel too bad about having to wait. My wife's Samsung S8+ just received it's Oreo update yesterday. If she had to wait that long for a flagship update, I can wait for my G5+update.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] robinjnrocks:
Yes I understand what's your point is, but Motorola was a company which provide fastest Android update, back days it beats even Google Nexus devices,

And now days Motorola just launched phone with Android 7.0 and push only one update which will be 8.0 not 8.1 and that's it, your Android support is finished,

Asus company which I always bash them for not giving Android update, but they Android 8.0 update which is a highly customised Asus phone, where all Motorola phones are pure stock Android but they still didn't able to give an Android 8.0 I am not even asking 8.1 in 8 months,

And forget about everything which I always says about Motorola which is quality control issues hardware issues screen burn issue screen flickering issue.

In 2016 my family has 8 Motorola phones

Which includes

Moto G3

Moto G3 Turbo

Moto G

Moto e

Moto e 2nd generation

Moto X play

Moto G4 Plus

Moto G4

But now only I own a Moto G5 Plus and my brother Moto G4 Plus that's it everyone ditched Motorola phones, and they are not even planning to buy a new Motorola device.

I hope Motorola fix their Android update and security patch update issue and improve some quality control issue then I think still Motorola is a brand still very good company until Lenovo don't ruin it.

I was a Motorola fan,
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Kdemwa:
March Patch Security Update Roll Out Everywhere on Moto G5S plus (Note:- G5S plus) but No Update In Moto G5 plus :(
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] smitharro:
Depends on what rom you choose and what you expect from it...
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M1810:
Well, most of them does this.. i'm talking about the animations of charging when the device is off.. maybe i missed some, but all the lne's that i used kept the lineageos battery charging.. but when you got no ppwer and try to turn it on it uses the stocl motorola animation.. it's a detail but for some people like me it drives us nuts haha..

Of course this is nothing against the ROM's.. if it wasn't for then we wouldn't have any choice sther than the damn slow motorola update policy..
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Ae3NerdGod:
*either
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Kdemwa:
Lmaoooo :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M1810:
Thanks. My main language is spanish, i missed that error.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] riggerman0421:
Actually, other
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] firefreeze234:
I will get a Nokia phone next time.

Their 2018 lineup seems pretty impressive. And their update speed is comparable to google's .
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M1810:
Yeah.. i became less and less friky about oreo.. it will come when it comes.. hopefully by the end if abril as some rumours (which i don't have sources, just heard) indicate..

I'll plan to stick to devices that keep the bezzel as i don't like the full display..
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
There were some new leaks about the Moto G6 and Moto G6 Play yesterday and according to experience more leaks suggest that a release is about to come in the near future. And when Lenovo handles it like with the Moto G4 in the past these devices will ship with Oreo and we will get it a bit later too.

But at the end of the day this is all reading coffee grounds.

And I agree, I don't want a beezel less display also no notch and even not a 18x9 display.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Andra5:
How about the Xiaomi A1? Is that any good?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] firefreeze234:
Xiaomi is good , but it had its own fair share of issues lately, like the major bugs on the Oreo update .

If you are planning on buying a new phone I advise you stay away from mia1 bcoz it is scheduled to get just 1 major update next and most of the phones launching in 2018 will also get the update . Moreover mia1 is using a fairly old snapdragon 625 whereas most midrange phones launching in 2018 are having 630 , even 636 .
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] VK16:
G5 Plus Issues

Guys!! Are you guys having issues like strange restarts or phone heating? Even back camera doesn't launch, too many issues. What shall i do??
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] SiddharthHarishkumar:
Moto G5 Plus Oreo Update

I think, Motorola will bring Oreo update when the rest of the companies will bring the final Android 'Z' update.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Androidtroll:
I have had the same problem some months ago, but they fixed it with an update, check if any update is available
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] ugupta100:
You changed the title ?
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] acejavelin:
Wipe cache partition
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Rocketfin:
That's honestly just dumb and adds nothing to the discussion
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] TimelesslyPrecise:
About to go with a Sony unlocked phone..... this is ridiculously painful moto...

Here it is, May 20th 2018... and still no Android 8.

https://imgur.com/a/jgQ8B2R

[IMG="d"]https://imgur.com/zDCbYh6[/IMG]

[IMG="d"]https://imgur.com/AJy0dkx[/IMG]

[IMG="d"]https://imgur.com/RedogkZ[/IMG]

[IMG="d"]https://imgur.com/5dUeS1A[/IMG]

Thanks Moto.

You've got a brand new Sony fan now.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Wolfcity:
93-8 is march security patch. After that we have also 93-10 april security patch out. Let's look what's coming next. Btw, I had a few Sony's... I would not swap again.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] TimelesslyPrecise:
ah, thanks for the heads up... kind of looking at the Pixel 2 models also... my GF has the 2xl, and the battery is better than anything i've seen yet...

Cheers!
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] acejavelin:
I am honestly starting to believe that Oreo isn't even going to happen... No news at all from Moto, which is actually normal, but no word in ANY circles (forums, reddit, "reputable" news leaks, twitter, nothing) of even a beta or soak test. I understand there shouldn't be due to non-disclosure agreements, but there ALWAYS has been in the past with every Moto device. Thinking it's just not going to happen at all, at least not in any time frame that makes it useful or relevant.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] M1810:
motorola india official said that it is coming and they are preparing tests for a better experience.. ST shouñd start soon
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] acejavelin:
Sure... We've been hearing that for 6+ months, I'll believe it when I see it.
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] nightwalkerx22:
Well
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] myshkommp:
Hi to all! There is a hope that it will soon begin to distribute 8.1 on the Moto G5. I think that on the G5 Plus as well.

Here's what I found:

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8352893
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] TimelesslyPrecise:
They're working on it.

I'm just gonna leave this here:

A random article from andr0idcentral where they talk about .com/android-one-moto-x4-now-being-updated-81-oreo

Oh, and here is a comparison by ph0nearena where they talk about .com/phones/compare/Motorola-Moto-X4,Motorola-Moto-G5-Plus/phones/10479,10398

Oh, and a nice article on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Oreo

i'm not even sure how the x4 is a different phone. -_-
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Onebryteday:
No OREO?

Maybe the title should be just plain "No OREO".

March, April, May? I guess we should ask what year? :p
[Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion] Rocketfin:
The Moto g5s+ just got an update to 8.1 announced so hopefully the g5+ will be soon after that. I'm really excited that they made the decision to skip 8.0, hopefully that means they're listening to customer feedback, although it could just be due to too many problems with 8.0 (not complaining either way).

SOURCE:

https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS129979

EDIT: Apologies for the lame copypasta of my comment from another thread, esp. if you're subscribed to both
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] pantelis25:
Anybody knows where i could get a new one??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] aksd:
www.shope2.com
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] fone_fanatic:
cnn.cn for 69.99 + shipping
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omaroid:
for the past week my G3 wasn't reading the sim card well and i had to restart it every time in order to get the sim to work again, untill the last time the sim card wasn't working at all so i went and had my sim replaced with a new one and it worked for like 5 mins then the phone crashed and went into bootloop..

i only see thhe LG logo and the phone never manges to turn on..

i tried a different battery but nothin changed so now i think there is no solution but to do a factory reset, the problem is that i have alot of important files on my phone which i haven't backed up.. is there anyway i can recover these files before doing the reset option???
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] bavoolek:
Hi, so i found an old, fully working version of GCam for Mi Note 2 [scorpio]

It's like for Android M, but it will work on all Android Versions above 6.

I tested it on MIUI 9 Global, China, miui.am, xiaomi.eu/miuipolska, epicrom, LOS 15.1, PE 8.0 and it's working just fine.

I am not responsible for any issues that might happen in process of installing that mod.

How to Install it?

Step 1: Root your device [I recommend via Magisk flash, through TWRP]

Step 2: Enable Camera2Api, and there i have two options for you:

Method 1: An Magisk module that enables this feature, here is the thread and download *CLICK*

Method 2: By editing build.prop file, but how to do it?

1: Download any root file manager [I recommend MiX]

2: Find the prop.build file in folder "System"

3: Scroll to the last line, and add "persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1", save and reboot.

Step 3: Install the APK file, which is under the tutorial!

DOWNLOADs

Google Camera App: *CLICK*

MiXplorer App: *CLICK*

Magisk: *CLICK*

BUGS AND ERRORs

1. Selfie Camera bug - Selfie Cam is upside down

FIX:

Search for msm8996_camera.xml file in /system/etc/camera

Then look for:

<Position>FRONT</Position>

<MountAngle>360</MountAngle>

And replace "360" with "270" [U need to do it twice}

Then Save and Reboot.

2. Slow Motion error

POSSIBLE FIX: Download an Magisk module, i don't know if it's working at all.

Download: *CLICK*

3. Stock Camera HDR crash

I can't find any FIX for that, but Camera2Api is not always crashing HDR stock [But in my case it doesn't crash, working just fine.]

I hope u liked it!

If it helped u, just leave me an "Thank" or something like that, i will be grateful!
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] Haryy9999:
Potrait mode not work :confused:
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] bavoolek:
It could have some bugs, I'm trying to find other working GCam, maybe a newer one.

But thanks for the information!
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] mafury:
when i fix selfie the app stop working. Restoring the xml file not solve the problem i have to reinstall the rom. Another way to fix front camera?
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] bavoolek:
Hard to find another solution.

Which ROM?
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] empy16:
I'm happy that you discovered this and even happier that you shared it! Thanks!

Now, onwards, we need to make the new gcam work on our phones. Can't live without those AR stickers (Not really)

(Also, I didn't have to the front cam workaround. Using RR 8.1.0 r11)
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] qiuas:
6.0.1

Hi,

Do I need custom ROM or will this work on my Mi Note 2 with android 6.0.1, MIUI 8.5 Global (8.5.5.0)?

Can you send me any pictures to compare stock images to the ones taken with gcam?
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] Andrikkos:
It's too buggy. Works at the beginning then it breaks. Not usable man :)
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] bavoolek:
It's working fine on global rom, ut i don't have any pictures to compare at the moment.
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] bavoolek:
I haven't noticed any problems on AOSP and MIUI based ROMs.
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] Elfs_rage:
Post to delete
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] Elfs_rage:
Hello,

Did you test other Google Camera?

Which?

Otherwise I have a problem as soon as I do this

Method 2: By editing build.prop file, but how to do it?

1: Download any root file manager [I recommend MiX]

2: Find the prop.build file in folder "System"

3: Scroll to the last line, and add "persist.camera.HAL3.enabled = 1", save and reboot.

Panorama mode does not work well .... :(

Because with "persist.camera.HAL3.enabled = 0", there are no worries.

Here are the same two pictures:

persist.camera.HAL3.enabled = 1

persist.camera.HAL3.enabled = 0

Would you have a solution?

[IMG="persist.camera.HAL3.enabled = 1"]https://dl.xda-developers.com/4/4/9/5/2/8/2/2018-05-07_182032.jpeg?key=AFeC4WHX3ocVMPJ7qgVA5Q&ts=1525715235[/IMG]

[IMG="persist.camera.HAL3.enabled = 0"]https://dl.xda-developers.com/4/4/9/5/2/8/3/2018-05-07_182056.jpeg?key=cZTWKI06LzG4cjQ7jU5SOQ&ts=1525715285[/IMG]

ROM: MIUI 9.5 Global Stable

Google Camera: GCam5.1.018-Arnova8G2-V1.7.apk (for example)

Envoyé de mon Mi Note 2 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] bavoolek:
About the other GCam.

Other GCams ale simply worst or buggy.

Explain again, I can't understand your problem.
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] Elfs_rage:
You do not have the problem in panorama mode?

Because me as soon as I do step 2:

While taking photos is faster but the panorama mode works very poorly.

Here is an example of a photo taken with panorama mode and "persist.camera.HAL3.enabled = 1":

[IMG="persist.camera.HAL3.enabled = 1"]https://dl.xda-developers.com/4/4/9/5/2/8/2/2018-05-07_182032.jpeg?key=AFeC4WHX3ocVMPJ7qgVA5Q&ts=1525715235[/IMG]

Whereas if I make the same photo with the same appplication and if I put "persist.camera.HAL3.enabled = 0", here is the result:

[IMG="persist.camera.HAL3.enabled = 0"]https://dl.xda-developers.com/4/4/9/5/2/8/3/2018-05-07_182056.jpeg?key=cZTWKI06LzG4cjQ7jU5SOQ&ts=1525715285[/IMG]

I tested with twenty Apk Google Camera ....

(Camera_com.google.android.GoogleCamera.apk (du premier post), GC_3.2.045_final_3.1_kenzo.apk,GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7-Final.apk, GCam5.1.018-Arnova8G2-V1.7.apk,MGC_5.1.018_FinalMod_v4.apk,skulshady_gcam_5.1.018_v1.9.apk ..........)

And it's the same .... :(

Found on this site:

https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/

So do you also have this problem with the panorama mode?

And if you have no problem, what ROM and Apk Google Camera do you use?
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] bavoolek:
To be honest I didn't try panorama on GCam.

I will try and give some feedback.

About the ROM and GCam:

AEX and the GCam from my post.
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] Luckzzz:
when taking a pic with Whatsapp the pic comes zoomed... Camera2Api really mess all.. I just don't take any pic with Whatsapp now in months.. only with the camera.. Camera2Api worths it.. but it sucks not being able to use all the phone features anyway =/
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] alexmanu1:
What are you talking about? All the new roms have this fixed...
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] Luckzzz:
Wow.. Dirty Unicorns fixed it? I just don't update in months now..
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] alexmanu1:
Dirty Unicorns? No, the devs fixed it.
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] Ghiro90:
Gcam for Mi note 2 !!!

Gcam for Mi note 2 , based Android 7 or Android 8 ( MIUI 9) ?
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] lucy_msy:
just try
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] YoSoyYoMismo:
Has anyone tried Lineageos 16 nightly + bulkin gcam? Bulkin gcam can be downloaded here https://mega.nz/#!bSoTzAgA!HTEAitMDIUk-0Lf7fSVy9UcKf43mzTct-lf0gMsvG_0
[Xiaomi Mi Note 2  Themes, Apps, and Mods] lohtse:
will this work for the redmi note 2 with android 8? or is there a better solution to have Gcam?