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[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] anderd:
Hahaha, right! I was in need of a laugh today, im glad i visited XDA lol..
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] andrei1412:
This answer you'll get from Samsung service :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] cmauribon:
You can reset knox by go back in time with a DeLorean DMC-12
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] modz2014:
ok its not a joke now its being serious about development anyway im sure there is something that can bee done with bootloader and kernel
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] BLuFeNiX:
Is there actually any proof that it's an e-fuse? I have seen a lot of conjecture, but no real evidence. It could just be a section of memory that is normally read-only.

Either way, we currently have no way to reset it.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Drzhivagolikesandroid:
Hi
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] sofir786:
It's not anything physical as far as I can tell, it there's plenty of xda articles, but there is definitely what's called an e-fuse involved with tripping knox
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] BLuFeNiX:
Ok, can you provide a link to something that actually proves that it's an efuse? I have never seen any actual evidence. People merely calling it an efuse is not evidence.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] sofir786:
https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s7/help/how-knox-warranty-void-efuse-burning-t3407518

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Older phones which had Knox did not have e-fuse which is why in phones like the galaxy s3 you could revert Knox to 0x0, from the s5 or s6 they implemented Knox with e-fuse hence why there's been no way to revert it since then, only way was too fake Knox 0x0 through custom kernel

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Knox

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Just to add, chainfire confirmed a long while back thay e-fuse was involved

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Just a few more bit and bobs here too

http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] BLuFeNiX:
None of this is proof. Most of what you posted just explains what an efuse is. Where is the actual evidence? Chainfire said he does not know whether it is an efuse or not, and if you read the top post at this link, would suggest that it is not an efuse...

https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] sofir786:
They've used the word fused here, now I know this doesn't prove anything but it more than likely is pointing to it considering the language used, having actual proof would mean a Samsung dev releasing closed sourced info.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] BLuFeNiX:
Or perhaps a savvy engineer with a microscope could show us real evidence of an efuse.

That is not what "fused" means in that context. Listen, I'm not saying that it definitely isn't an efuse, but to assume that it is without proof is a bit foolish. If it is an efuse, then can you explain how the Exynos processor-equipped variants HAVE been resettable from 0x1 back to 0x0?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] sofir786:
Old Samsung phones have been able to reset Knox, as far as I can tell from s6 which i owned, once Knox was tripped that was it, the only way to have 0x0 is though faking it through at a kernel level, that's why 100% of custom kernels available for the exynos variation have fake 0x0 flag. If you've seen otherwise please show me that, as far as I know no one with 0x1 Knox flag on exynos has done that, i have the exynos variant btw.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] karakent:
I tried to change the motherboard with a new one, but knox is always 0X1.

Why? Can you help me?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Baxi011:
Salut,ar merita sa "trezesc"knox-ul pentru custom rom? (s6 edge)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] andrei1412:
Yes, because samsung dropped the support.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] josuecas:
Thats 'cause the new one has tripped knox too
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Anduril97:
I appreciate you hahaha
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] AlexDC2013:
Hi! I have an Galaxy S9+ and I'll like to root it. If I use a kustom kernel to hide the knox tripping would I be able to use again aps like Secure Folder and Samsung Pass?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] esmaeil mohamadi:
not at all
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] venus342a:
I'd suggest you to use KNOX Reset 0x0(0) - Project Kilo app to mask the value to 0x0(0) in a single click.

venus342.com/kilo
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] modz2014:
Venus342 your app I haven't tried this yet does this reset Knox counter to 0x0 using software only so then it will trip Knox but reset the count ti 0x0 so you be able to use Samsung pay ect I haven't done any research on this a long time
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] PrimaCora:
Knox fuse blown = permanent Knox blown on hardware.

Knox reset = Knox virtual reset so you can use Knox reliant apps, however you're still limited to 80% battery, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] smallville7123:
i like you :P
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] manousos1:
hello can anybody tell me if my knox is tripped??

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can anybody tell me if my knox is tripped

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https://m.imgur.com/gallery/WfMX6Mk
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Horgyboy:
So no solution to fixing the knox???
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Horgyboy:
no fix yet?

I have the same problem. Tried evertyhing but cant get it running
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] spawnlives:
You issue in KG / RMM state being in pre- normal state. You can check state in download mode.

Flash firmware to fix.

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As far as I know no.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Horgyboy:
I have tried the latest Odin. And the firmware linked in the video. Got any other better idea for firmware maby?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] spawnlives:
Use can use website to download firmware like sammobile or updato.

You can also use PC apps like samfirm or frija to download the latest firmware.

From your other post looks like you are on bootloader version 4. You will have to download this version or higher. Bootloader version number is the 5th from the right of the firmware name.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Horgyboy:
I have done all the things you mention. Did not work either
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] spawnlives:
What are the issues with flashing?

How are you trying to flash?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Horgyboy:
I use Odin and it fails.

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I even got the original files from sammobile and it still fails.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Jakob1379:
Heyo!

I am trying to fix this as well, though I am not an android developer. I would like to help out if there is anything I can do/provide. I am currently running on a Samsung S9+ (rooted by the power of Magisk 19.4).
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Youdoofus:
no, no resetting knox
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Horgyboy:
I think knox destroys the motherboard with its e-fuse. So it is a physical damage done by Samsung themselves. They have become apple.

But if in some miracle you find out a way to fix it please shout out. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Horgyboy:
I fixed my problem. Finally..

Used the last two months arguing with my carrier and samsung.. In the end all they could do was change the motherboard in the phone.. And they wanted 500 bucks for it.. So i said fusk you and took the phone home..

As a last try i tried to flash back to stock..Once again.. But with the newest firmware and newest odin... Did not work... then i tried a patched odin v3. And HOLY S/¤%&#...

https://xdaforums.com/android/software/patched-odin-3-13-1-t3762572

It finally works... So i guess my motherboard was not fried from the e-fuse... What a damn big pain in the ass this has been...

Lets hope i dont f.... it up when trying to root and get a good rom this time.. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Jakob1379:
I will have to try and confirm this on Saturday. Can't wait... This is actually quite a breakthrough as it indicates that the infamous efuse is a lie
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Horgyboy:
Let us know how it goes :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Jakob1379:
I had some problems with flashing the newest update. Could you maybe link to what files you're flashing?

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I had some problems with flashing the newest update. Could you maybe link to what files you're flashing?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Horgyboy:
This odin https://xdaforums.com/android/software/patched-odin-3-13-1-t3762572

And the latest firmware from your country. https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s8/firmware/SM-G950F/

It failed on me too the first time because i used an older odin.. Good luck :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Adriantewe:
Howdy, im sorry to ask this late.

In this case. What did you do with your phone ? (Untick oem unlock or etc)

I tried to reflash 3 times already (ap, BL, cp, csc. Ticked that 4 items only) and nothing happen even after i make sure to use that patched version..(samsung health and pass still blocked)

My guess is there seems miss step in my flashing.

I hope you still read this and have time to reply, thankyou in advance!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Youdoofus:
You have to flash the stock firmware, wait 168 hours with it up and running, no reboots, then turn on dev settings and it should be there
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] SilentStorm31:
Wait so ur knox got reset?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Jakob1379:
I think mine have been as well. Because I've seen the screen with setting knox password and then having to entering it. Unfortunately this was before I knew anything more about it and was just flashing stuff.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] reddymax:
So do you mean now after flashing the firmware you are able to use the Samsung secured folder and Samsung pay . If yes do kindly provide the screenshots and even detailed instructions on how to get that
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Solace50:
100% spot on. You will never be able to reset this physically without replacing the actual chip on the device with a fresh new one from Samsung. Something that is outside the scope of a vendor. You can however with a custom kernel spoof to the the OS that the device is still compliant but not on stock firmware if the device is locked (Without some exploit). The actual Fuse still remains blown.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Simulta:
This is an official statement. (If they tell the truth). But I don't know if there is any possible resetting of that.

This guy tells he can reset the Knox counter. By the way, is this the same as warranty void counter?

https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-the-Samsung-Knox-counter-be-reset-Is-it-a-hardware-or-software-flag

I have also read that you can flash the full ROM, to set it back, from 0x1 to 0x0 (https://c.mi.com/thread-1898682-1-0.html)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] reddymax:
yeah whatever you said is completely true because when i contacted samsung care for this issue as s health ; s pay ; secure folder and s pass were not working for which after the phone had been checked by their technicians i had been told that they need to change the board entirely and it voids warranty and it will cost around Rs21K. so i guess it is indeed embedded into the chipset.

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[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] :
MagiskHide should already change the ro.boot.warranty_bit and ro.warranty_bit properties to 0 but if not make a boot script and change it using resetprop. Also, just because it's an eFUSE doesn't mean it cannot be masked to 0x0 by software, it just means that we cannot actually reset the real value.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] reddymax:
Did you try it out ?

But I doubt it that though we may be able to mask it to 0*0 using magisk or script but still the apps would look it real value and not marked up values thus making all these efforts back to point zero because all we want those values to be reset is so that we can use those apps spay ,secure folder and s health.

Anyways do let me know if you are successful in your approach and are able to use those apps.

Thanks for reading and for your response.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] :
Apps can't check the real value, they check the device properties, to use Samsung health just edit build.prop and change ro.config.tima=1 to ro.config.tima=0.

Or, if you want to do it Systemless-ly use a boot script and resetprop...

Other Samsung apps may check files, installed apps, Safety net, device properties, etc. etc.

If you don't believe me download this application: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bryancandi.knoxcheck, Or any other Knox checker application and check it in MagiskHide, it will show 0x0.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] reddymax:
Actually it's nothing about not believing you, infact you are quite knowledgeable then me .it's just that I want to be sure about it .

Well I already have 0*0(3) I saw it in recovery mode

Anyways I want to know if you found solution for other Sam apps like secure folder and spay .

I hope you don't mind be asking everything in such detail because I am not really well versed with editing build prop and all and I a would be really grateful if you could provide me a detailed procedure regarding this considering me a layman in editing build prop systemles-ly .

All I can do is unlock bootloader n install custom recovery n ROM . Well I understand we can edit using notepad++

But the systemles-ly route I have no knowledge about. And I would like to go by first method if other Samsung apps too work (just don't want to go through such long process just for s health?)

Anyways thanks for the info shared.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] :
The (3) is only visible in Download mode, That is NOT part of the actual eFUSE value so there is NOT a property for it, nothing in the system can check the (3). Apps or any other Processes in the system can only check 0x0 and 0x1 which MagiskHide will mask to 0x0.

Again, if you don't believe me download the Knox Status application, put it in MagiskHide, and see for yourself.

I'm sure with enough steps to make sure there is nothing Samsung Pay or Secure Folder can detect, you can get them to work.

The bootloader (Download mode) checks the flag from some other partition which is probably something in /dev/block, apps cannot check this either because they would need root, this is what the device properties are for.

If you dig around enough you can probably find what you need to edit in order to change the Download mode sting to 0x0(0), Again, just because it's an eFUSE doesn't mean you cannot mask it with software, it just means that you cannot reset the actual value.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] reddymax:
So as per you it should work for all apps if I edit build prop
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] :
EDIT: I found out that this guide for some reason will NOT change ro.config.tima to 0, I will update this guide as soon as I get the chance!

This method will probably only work for S-Health but it is not a long process, here is what you have to do:

1. Be rooted with the latest version of Magisk

2. Turn on MagiskHide in the Settings of Magisk Manager

3. Download a root browser and browse to /data/adb/post-fs-data.d

4. Make a file for example "shealth'

5. Edit that file and add this:

#!/system/bin/sh
resetprop ro.config.tima 0

6. Give it execution permissions by opening a Terminal application and typing

su
cd /data/adb/post-fs-data.d
chmod +x shealth

7. Reboot and Samsung Health should now work!

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No, that alone will probably not make all Samsung apps work.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] reddymax:
Thanks for taking your time and giving out detailed instructions.

I would have loved to see some way to enable spay and secure folder . Anyways as of now I will try out this for s health.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] :
I wish I could experiment on getting Samsung Pay and Secure Folder to work, but right now my only Samsung device is an SM-T350 (Samsung Galaxy Tab A) which doesn't have either one of those apps. I can still give you advice on what you can try if you want to try and get those apps to work though. :p
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] reddymax:
Sure thing then:) do tell me what I can do for even those two to work.

Because I mostly care for spay over secure folder and s health
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] :
Okay, did you do the S-Heath method I posted above?

I suggest you to do that first because other Samsung apps may also check that property.

Also, I can only tell you things to try, I don't have any Samsung devices that support Samsung Pay or Secure Folder so I can't guarantee that what I tell you will work.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] reddymax:
hey i did root and all but i am unable to create a file its showing as error occured

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I did this and in the knox checker app it is showing 0*0 but when i open s health it is saying

"unauthorised changes made to your phone .COntact customer service for more information .(0x04#0x4040#0000006aN3030)"

What do i do now?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] :
Try with a different root browser.

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Follow the guide I posted
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Vcek:
hello guys, this is a bit off topic but I thought someone might shed some light on this issue some users are experiencing

model G892A S8 active (att), stock firmware, binary U5, warranty 0x0.

im having issue with flashing stock roms, the flashes and md5 are all passing OK without errors on ODIN v14 . the KG status appears as prenormal or checking, after certain android 9 updated roms are flashed.

issue: NFC crashing, samsung security crashing, settings menu is out of order and many options dont work, att apps and UI isnt installed(bonus?)

affected roms: CSJ3 and later builds Nov. 6, 2019

flashing back to earlier roms will fix this issue but the bootloader still shows the same kg: checking

i got it to work once i cant remember what exactly fixed this, but the same problem reoccured with the latest build on 20-aug

Thanks in advance

Edit: another very interesting side effect of this bug, is that FRP lock no longer affects the phone and it just thinks that the phone has no previous Gmail account
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] mickeydarrenlau:
Did Samsung Galaxy J5 has an KNOX EFUSE?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Aki-to:
Did something change between the creation of this thread and the end of 2020? Are there some (positive) updates to this problem?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] naren12:
I have a oneui 4 device, android 12, and in build.prop there is no "ro.config.tima"

Any different technique for oneui 4?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Dzion:
Sorry to revive this but....

Im sure its been figured out already that the eFuse is not some lie.. but here you go anyways... NXP patent on their eFuse.

US20100072571A1 - Effective efuse structure - Google Patents

An electrically programmable fuse (eFuse) comprises a semiconductor layer, a silicide layer overlying the semiconductor layer, and first and second contact structures electrically coupled to the silicide layer. The first contact structure is configured to function as an anode and the second...

patents.google.com

Just a few thoughts if someone is serious about solving this issue for device resale or whatever.. Most of these IC's are very cheap to purchase.

So, if you can figure out what IC blew the fuse, it can be replaced. From what I have read so far, when the eFuse blows, the resistance changes. Maybe compare resistance of IC's from modified device and unmodified device? Possibly tear down device and research the technology of IC's used on device.. to pin point the IC with eFuse technology.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Aki-to:
When & where will you start working on this?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Dzion:
I'm not going to be working on this.. I only posted to share information. Even if someone figures it out... the majority of people wouldn't have the capability to apply the fix.. phones would have to be sent out to be worked on.. but anyways, I hope this information helped someone.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Aki-to:
Well, then nobody is going to start to work on it.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Ahmed Shahriar:
Hello
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Aki-to:
Greetings
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] modz2014:
ok I found something a while ago sorry it been a while I have working on this and a few other projects as well as working efuse setting the value as 0x0 is in the bootloader then is sent to the kernel the check is done like this which efuse

bootloader checks a value of 0* then is sent to the kernel then sent the checks back to the bootloader while the phone is loading if the value is set to 0x1 it will trip in software

the only way to not trip knox is to create your own bootloader and then sign it as your own so it does not trip it using software
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] iWisp360:
It's the same way in samsungknox.com
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] ronaldC:
It is an OTP eFuse.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] berkwe_:
Bootloader is on but knox counter shows 0x0 how is this happening?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] treysis:
Nope. It's e-fuse. Nothing to do with IBM's eFuse technology. "e-fuse" just means it works like a fuse, but it's entirely made in software. Doesn't mean it's reprogrammable (though I am pretty sure Samsung itself has the possibility with low-level access to the SoC).
[OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers] camdadeye291:
Greetings,

I updated to OOS 5.0 when it was first released and since updating to the latest Oreo based firmware I am experiencing a strange issue. My phone randomly freezes at the OnePlus logo. Is anybody else experiencing this?

I am currently running with the official Oreo based Resurrection Remix build and yesterday it happened again. So I guess it must be related to the Oreo firmware and not the Rom.

I never experienced this issue on Nougat or Marshmallow and it only happens randomly. Difficult it is, to determine the cause.

Peace