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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
I use the phone how I like to hehe. That was my personal real-world usage in that period. I don't care how others use it - I'm sure many others use phones in many other different ways, so it's useful having different examples. I've posted many SOT screenshots in this thread already of my other periods of usage and I tend to get 6-10 hours SOT over a day or so, depending on what I'm doing with the phone. Again, this is with no tweaking and it's with the Exynos model. And it's with AOD enabled over the entire period.

Interesting that you don't seem to acknowledge the fact AOD being enabled and in use drains the battery significantly over long periods. Again, even with your tweaking, it is highly unlikely you would get anywhere near 15 hours SOT with AOD enabled and in use for 30-40 hours over a total of 64 hours on battery.

And again, my screenshot shows 3-4 hours SOT with no tweaking over 64 hours. And with AOD enabled. And I still had 18% battery left. And yes, the main point of my latest screenshot was to show how good the battery endurance is when the phone is in standby/idle, with mainly light usage, but also with some periods of heavy usage.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
The game the

So you used it that way and calling it real world use? OK.

And when did I say AOD doesn't eat battery or I didn't acknowledge of AOD sucking battery ?It very well does. Neither I expect anywhere near 15 hours sot with AOD and various other factors when "on" but definitely outruns the Exynos twin.

Edit: I flashed the latest updated ROM on the G-965F . Checking it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
I'm curious as to whether people who are posting their battery stats are using Power Saving Mode or not? Any battery stats that I posted are always with Power Saving Mode turned OFF.

As someone mentioned this isn't a d**k measuring contest (at least it shouldn't be).

If people have some useful information or questions about how they can increase the battery life of their device - Great.

I'm using Greenify with adb commands & notSABS 1.0 to disable a number of system apps (Bloat) I've also disabled background data on the apps that I don't need to sync in the background - FWIW I'm also running Swift's Black Themes (idea being that a black screen uses less power) ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Yes, I call it real-world use, because that's how I genuinely "used" the phone in the "real-world" during that period. Real-world use can vary. In some periods, one may want to play a high intensity game for 5 hours straight - this could mean your SOT is 5 hours with a total of only 5 hours on battery. Other periods, one may be using the phone just for replying text messages, which would perhaps produce a SOT of only 1-2 hours over a total of 100+ hours on battery.

In my opinion, it's more useful to post a SOT screenshot and describe (as much as you can be bothered hehe) exactly what you did during that period. For example, if you're mainly watching video and reading documents, a SOT of >10 hours is not surprising over 1-2 days (I have consistently achieved this with the Exynos model with no tweaking). However, if you're performing heavier functions like GPS navigation on high accuracy or gaming for several hours, your SOT is going to be much lower. Randomly posting a SOT screenshot without some detail of what you did with the phone can often be misleading.

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I've never enabled any Power Saving Mode for any of the screenshots I've posted.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
Just because you used it for 3 hours in 3 days doesn't mean it means real world though you used it really . I highly disagree with you here. I can keep my phone in drawer and take it out for 5 minutes everyday to use and then can't say that "that's my real world usage". I would rather name it "purely testing purpose usage".

A smartphone is to be used and screen stays ON while using except when you talk. Thats real world usage as that's a real smartphone to be used that way even though usage pattern varies from person to person.

When I say real world usage it means an hour of talk ,an hour of web browsing , an hour of video in YouTube , gaming for 30 minutes , social media surfing for an hour , using map for an hour, playing songs for 2 hours, making some excels for 30 mins etc. These numbers vary from person to person and some1 may use few more or less stuff. - real world.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Again, that's how I used it during that period. I wasn't "testing" it. Your definition of "real world usage" is subjective. You actually appear to agree with me, as you said it varies from person to person, and some may use "few more or less stuff". Exactly!

EDIT: by the way, my original objection was with regard to your implication that 3-4 hours SOT on battery for 64 hours with >30 hours used by AOD (without any tweaking, and with 18% battery left) is "not good" - I'm yet to hear any convincing justifications for this implication still. You've even written that it's "expected" to only get 3-4 hours SOT on battery for 11-12 hours (without AOD enabled?) without any tweaking, which logically means that you should be relatively impressed by my latest data - therefore describing it as "not good" doesn't sound completely logical. Remember that I performed over an hour of GPS navigation on high accuracy and 40 minutes of web browsing, so the 3 hours SOT wasn't all light usage.

However, you seem to have moved the argument to some arbitrary definition of what "real world" use is...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
Veries from person while using it,not when NOT using it or using it 1 hour daily. So absolutely not agreeing with you there as your real world usage concept took a completely wrong turn.

And ofcourse I considered with AOD on for that 11,12 hours with 3,4 hours of SOT and that's really poor for a phone costing so high. Nowhere I mentioned it's "expected" I said people were right about those poor readings.

I actually laughed at your screenshot data and felt like correcting you and so did. BRB.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
You appear to keep repeating the same things without any new justifications (although I think you may have mis-interpreted my last post regarding AOD). Therefore, please re-read my previous posts, which addresses all those things already hehe.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
I've read all the pages. Most of your contents look like essays praising the batterylife or performance from every direction when in reality it isn't and inferior to the snapdraon counterpart in some areas. You are in love with ur your phone than being truthful and logical at times.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] bassgenerator:
nicely written and especially true:)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
It looks like some are using power saving mode or other incorrect ways to flatten the sots or battery life and stuff as if competing in a "contest".

So correct. I became a part of it when I look back at last few messages. Just won't be at all anymore.

So with these useful steps without root ,how's your battery life now ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
My battery is what I posted a couple pages back and I'm not trying to squeeze every last second out of it - Aside from draining the battery down to zero being hard on the battery - I'm never away from a power source for too long to charge if needed & whether I get 10 hrs or 20+ isn't really an issue... I mean it's not like I'm going into the wilderness for days on end lol. There's also a number of good external battery packs that are available if needed.

I don't use FB - WhatsApp etc which are known to be battery hogs - so there's that too ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Ausboy 2011:
Exynos 3rd cycle in very happy with batterylife. Aod off, no sync plenty of Facebook and forum browsing dragon ball dokkan and legends, spotify bluetooth to headset and gear s3. Powersaving mode only enabled on cpu.

Will update after full discharge :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
Thats a nice screenshot when u ain't using social media stuff. And with those apps you would get little more of what I'm getting as u have some nice steps taken:) and not at all like few monkeying around with the phones .

Do you think black theme actually helps? There is so much of bla bla bla on amoled and black theme but not seeing something worth saying lately. Lol, I actually switched between black,white,blue, brown themes and all are giving almost the same batterylife.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
Yeah using a Black / Dark Theme as well as Black Wallpaper & Black Apps is going to produce a relatively insignificant battery saving - But if you prefer that look anyway (I do) you might eke out a marginal increase in the battery's daily usage.

Black on an Amoled display doesn't (according to the experts) use any energy... so they say.

Have a look at the links below ?

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Bla...display-how-much-battery-does-it-save_id87425

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/comments/6qo3gh/amoled_themes_and_battery/
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
Ya I know the technical explanations well. But not noticing the same or as per how those articles say
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
You can see it when you use the phone constantly noticiably as the phone will be used killing battery constantly but only the light emitting diodes of individual pixels will be required to be lit(other than the black pixels, while having a black theme) than a theme other than black where all pixels will be required to be lit (wherever no black). When kept idle , a black theme or wallpaper will hardly help.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Right, "in love" with the phone so much that I've said repeatedly that I would have returned it by now if it had actually cost me money. Returned it not because of poor battery life or performance, but because of other issues (inconsistent oleophobic coating etc) - again, time to re-read? And now you're using a straw man argument by mentioning snapdragon. Implying dishonesty is also unwarranted and is somewhat of an ad hominem attack. Again, no convincing justifications.

I'm one of several just in the last few weeks on this forum alone posting that I'm happy with the battery life and performance of this phone.

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Looks good. Just curious, what do you mean by powersaving mode only enabled on cpu? I don't know much about powersaving (as I don't use it) aside from the "MID/MAX" options?

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As Virgo_Guy has essentially mentioned, you would only notice the difference if your specific use of the phone allows it. For example, watching video in full-screen won't make a difference, but spending time in Settings etc would. The referenced article simply compares the scenario of "staring at the wallpaper". It becomes logical that having pixels that light up brightly (eg. white) would drain more battery than having pixels that aren't lit up at all (black).

Personally I like to use the phone in default settings as much as possible - it's an "OCD" issue hehe. If there was a "black theme" built-in by default, I would have likely selected it by now. It's actually a bit ridiculous from Samsung that this isn't included by default.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Ausboy 2011:
Happy days
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
Love is blind and so your essays don't impress. I saw you lying in this thread itself about the snapdragon variant when I re-read.

As someone said this isn't a d*ck measuring contest here, #I am not a part of it anynore. Thanks but no thanks.

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Didn't see noticiable difference in heavy use also. Sometimes good battery and sometimes bad with/without black theme.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
And the ad hominem arguments continue, which is rather sad. Again, nothing convincing still and I certainly don't want to be a part of this.

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Nice! I'm still curious what you mean by power saving only on cpu though.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] marsen2567:
I always have root before and have used Greenify lots of times. I never knew it can be used with adb commands for those without root. Now, I know. Let's see how effective it is on mine. Thanks for the idea.

I had 8 hours before but it only happened twice. On average I get 6-7 hours SOT inbetween. Let's see if I get past that and no, I'm not using power saving mode.

I'm on Exynos btw, I hear lots of people gets triggered by it here, so I'm putting this right here as a P.S.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
There's a number of Root apps that can be used on an Unrooted device with adb commands - BBS - Wakelock Detector - GSam Battery Monitor - Tiles - Active Toggles - System UI Tuner - Material Notification Shade as well as Greenify etc ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
My SOT with heavy gaming:

:cowboy:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] marsen2567:
Yup, using two of those for quite sometime now. But on Greenify with root, I was on the fence about it, if it really was helping the battery on my other android phones, because when I uninstall it I think I had a much better battery life but I'm not too sure. But then again I was using tons of powersaving apps beforelike amplify, powernap, etc... Maybe it will be different this time on this phone, being unrooted and all. Fingers crossed
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] marsen2567:
So far it's looking pretty good.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] marsen2567:
Greenify actually works for me, man! Aod off, powesaving off, +WQHD, Performance mode on, Light to medium use. I got a lot of time because it's summer. Holding this for almost 8 hr straight. :D
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Black theme indeed helps , discard your doubt about it. :good:

..

As far as your sometimes bad ,sometimes good experience with a black theme is concerned I kinda sense that you might feel it irrespective of which color theme you use. If so, thats the exynos 9810's kernel at work i believe. Inconsistency to be precise and it might have(or might not have) changed with the "BRE5" firnware since its equipped with a kernel with a changed kernel no.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Data after 9 days of usage [MENTION=239534]bre[/MENTION]5 in light to medium usage. Smooth UI became buttery smooth , viewing experienced is tuned further well, but batterylife is exactly like before and is just average.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] zathus:
You can turn on power saver and have it only throttle the CPU
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] harry92008:
With BRE5 the stndbay seems to have worsened. Such light usage still it drained pretty quickly.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
I think you have a serious issue, because BRE5 update fixed many battery problems.

Try to clear cache from recovery to see if that helps.

;)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] itstock:
Feels same. It was bad and now it is worse.

aod off

wifi power saving mode on

no cloud syncing account

seven inbuilt apps disabled

68 apps slept

black wallpaper

no bttry hungry apps
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] mtm1401:
Get GSAM and look at your screen stats - 5 hours SOT is reasonable if you're outside in bright sunlight and the screen is at full brightness, same applies with signal, low signal = more power used.

I went to watch some golf the other week and got about 2.5 SOT/12hrs total as there was no signal and the screen was full brightness all day. Charged the phone the next day and got 6.5 SOT/16hrs total with some gaming as I was at work/ at home indoors with full signal/ wifi

Also get accubattery and see what your screen on/ off drain times are and see if you can locate a problem.

On a side note I'd really like to get my hands on a pixel or oneplus to compare my usage but don't have the money to throw around, as I'm 75% sure that the difference in battery really isn't that great in the real world.

:eek:

(Exynos btw)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] itstock:
All the time connected to WiFi in indoors and mobile networks have full signals.brightness at 50%. I checked with better battery stats for weeks nothing is draining battery unusually. Then factory resetted and cleared cache. Dual sim exynos.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] imkr1:
BRE5 seems improve standby...
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] W737NG:
Hi guys, quick question. I just ordered a unlocked S9+ dual Ex here in Italy, I read about a lot of you doing a factory reset just out of the box, shall I do it even before putting in the sim and before updating for the first time?

Tnx

(A friend with the new update is around 5h sot without any prior major reset, I'll upload my stats as sonn as I get the phone.)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
(a) Insert Sims

(b) Check for system update, download and install

(c) Switch off

(d) Press volume up, bixby and power off swtich all together ,release when Samsung screen appears

(e) Select wipe data/Factory reset and do so

(f) Reboot

(g) Go through the setup process, install apps

(h) Repeat step (c) and (d)

(i) Select Wipe cache partition , do so and reboot.

Done.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
Excellent advice! & coincidentally exactly what I do ??
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] xmatharux:
Which ADB commands would you recommend? (already using GSAM and batterystats) however is there any lines which provide a big boost to battery use?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
GSam & BBS just tell you what is using the battery - Greenify can help reduce the battery's consumption with adb commands (available in the Greenify app) "big boost" is relative ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] mtm1401:
Very strange, by chance I have a similar usage time /SOT today and am doing a lot better. Went for a run, listened to some music, used Bluetooth for a while and a bit of gaming.

Your android system is noticeably higher than mine, I would advise going through your permissions and checking you have location off for everything you don't need (do that for all permissions). Have you disabled the standard Facebook app? The other thing I do is set my phone to automatically reset once a week.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] bassgenerator:
I'm still happy with this Exynos
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Nice, you're on track to achieve about 10 hours SOT over 40-50 hours on battery with light-moderate use? That's about 2-3 hours more SOT than what I would get, which makes sense, since you have AOD disabled and have also tweaked quite a few things.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] bassgenerator:
Yes. Agree with you. This way I want to use my phone still
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] mtm1401:
May I ask what changes you've made other than AOD off?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] itstock:
Android system is higher than yours but lower than many. Good phone with bad batterylife is not what I was actually buying it for. Appreciate the advice but am tired of folks advising me to do several ways of how to get more batterylife when I already tried so many. Going back to my old and gold Note 8 thank god I did not sell it. :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] mtm1401:
I was coming from a 2 year old s7 edge so it was definetly an improvement for me (gone from charging twice a day to only over night), but it's all relative I guess! Out of interest what sort of stats did you get with the note 8?

I'm always sceptical of people making claims about other phones as when I switch between them I don't see similar gains. Would be good to hear what goof looks like to you as you've at least had similar usage patterns on both devices :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] xmatharux:
What did you do to get the android OS so low? Mine is always around 15% don't know why (even with older phones )
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] bassgenerator:
my personal spell
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] harry92008:
A friend of mine bought s9 plus exynos. Standby time is amazing. He uses it for basics, WhatsApp, YouTube, etc but I see estimated time remaining as 42 hours...Damn. on the other hand, mine has estimated time 12 hours. Basically dies in that duration no matter what I do or don't do. Additionally I have most of my apps sleeping, notifications turned off...and other tweaks. My friend is using the cell out of the box. Not even a single tweak. I can only assume that mine is a faulty unit with hardware defect. Only thing is , I don't know how to prove it except for comparison with my friends cell which I don't think they will agree.

Any suggestions on what can be done to compare between two phone to determine any hardware fault??
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] mtm1401:
Won't be an exact science but I think the only fair way would be to both do a hard reset. Also you'd have to be on the same network, in the same location, with the same apps for a period of time. My suggestion would be;

A) update to latest version on both phones

B) hard reset

C) sign in to Google but don't sync

D) download some stuff/ watch youtube/ play games (obviously do the same on both) for a set period of time

E) Switch to Wi-Fi

F) Repeat step D

G) leave overnight in same conditions

If there is a genuine problem I'm sure you'd notice it before step G
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
This discrepancy is what makes me curious. You might find some of the thoughts here useful (read the subsequent posts too):

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=76728405&postcount=18

EDIT: before you do any major resetting to compare, I'd suggest to look at the SOTs too. The "Estimated battery life" meter takes an average of the use over the last week, so if you haven't been using the phone much, then this figure would be high (but the daily SOT would be low).
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] itstock:
:)S7 edge exynos was more power efficient than S7 edge snapdragon and I was one of those happy customers to have the exynos model with a good batterylife.

OK I get about 7 hours sot with note 8 and that's some 2 hours and some more than the current s9+.

Same settings|same applications|same use scenarios|2 sims|same wifi and mobile networks|same person|
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] mtm1401:
Same, but the capacity on my s7 had dropped below 75% and didn't want to pay Samsung to replace the battery and glass on the back (3 times the price of the battery!!! $$$$ :eek: )

That's interesting, I had a avoided the note because I wasn't to happy that they put a small battery in it but obviously that's not the be all when it comes to endurance (damn you Samsung for blindly chasing apple processors). Don't want a notch so will probably hold on to this toll the mate 20 or v40.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
BRE5 disappointed it seems.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] xmatharux:
This was of zero help
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] cavags5:
Hi mate, is that bad, last update?

I have a new s9+ Vodafone, and im thinking in flash this version from the unlock version.

I don't use the phone yet to see, because its first time, but i can compare with my s8 plus.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Yeah, with BRE5 I'm getting lower batterylife than before. And "before" I was not getting good batterylife either.