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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
I agree that 4-5 hours SOT of light-moderate use should be a minimum (and in fact, I'd be personally disappointed even with that as my 2-year old S7 was already achieving that, and usually more, despite bad charging habits hehe). While I respect those that are heavily tweaking their phones, I also agree that this shouldn't be required when you're paying so much for it (although those people heavily tweaking their phones seem to get quite ridiculous SOTs like 8-9 hours over 1-2 days, so you'd think they'd easily get 4-5 hours without these tweaks).

Perhaps the Google Pixel 3 XL is the next phone for you? I'd have gone down the Pixel route if I wasn't already used to the Samsung environment (and if my "free phone for the year" was enacted 6 months earlier - there's something about having the "latest" flagship release hehe).

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Spot on. I sometimes am in disbelief as to what the carriers do. One aspect that I can't get over is that you can't even uninstall some of the apps, as if the carrier is forcing your hand. I suppose at least they can be disabled! But it makes you wonder what other "back-doors" they've created hehe.

I'd refuse to use Windows if I couldn't get Admin rights (and even then, it's not as "Admin" as most Linux distros). Thank goodness we don't buy our computers from a Carrier!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Exactly.

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You spoke my heart out.

And I strongly feel the galaxy note 9 would come up with its full potentials with a much bigger battery.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
The Carriers are getting paid for the Bloat that they bake into the Firmware & worse than that - They're also selling your real time location to 3rd party companies! They aren't leaving a penny on the table!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...tream-location-data-sharing-securus-1.4666739

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zd...rs-selling-access-to-real-time-location-data/

So while we may be less than enamored with Samsung..... It's the Carriers that we pay exorbitant monthly fees & they are selling our personal information on top of that!

European privacy laws are far more robust than North American... and we were worried about the NSA lol ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
First screenshot is of GS9+ snapdragon. Model G-9650 bought locally.

2nd screenshot is of GS9+ exynos. Model G-965F bought off ebay for custom Tom support

Conditions on both :

BK package disabler, disabled about 94 services and 8 bloatwares.

screen resolution: FHD+ photo ,videos sync off

display always on OFF

device scanning off

NFC off

No power saving

Only wifi,did not use mobile internet at all for testing purpose

both dual sims, 64 GB storage

find my mobile off

location on: accuracy is in power saving

bxactions used in bixby

Auto brightness off,was at 50%

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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Yiayiah:
Jesus, SD845 is so much better. Screw that Exynos chip

I did a factory reset yesterday and my estimate battery time keeps showing "Learning Usage Pattern" so I don't know exactly if the factory reset helps my situation or not
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
First screenshot - Model no G-9650, GS9+ snapdragon.

Second screenshot -Model no G-965F, GS9+ exynos.

Third screenshot - descriptions of settings used.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
Descriptions of settings.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
What?????? U r just a mannerless bully!! I have seen many many many many and many videos where Exynos is better than snapdragon version in batterylife, performance and heat (I seriously do not remember where I saw those videos:laugh:now ) :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:...

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Jokes apart, I very well know the snapdragon is better this time, but 15 hrs of SOT is rather unbelievable if you did not go for any power saving mode, but then, u took a lot of measures and tweaks as per the third screenshot and I kinda believe that with a pinch of salt.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Often takes around 24 hours for it to complete the "Learning Usage Pattern", so just wait a bit more. Hope the factory reset is worthwhile (as it's a bit of a pain having to re-install everything etc).
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
Who knows Sammy might update the exynos chip in future but it's sad dat both perform differently

I gave th G-965F to wifey dear as she is a light user . 4 a long-day-use G-9650 stays in my pocket.win win for both of us lol

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I'm no bully and I saw wht u did der:cyclops:

with no msrment and settings modifications 5 hours/14 hours and 8 hours/20 hours is standard for G-965F and G-9650 respectively for me.

Edited: typo error -corrected.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] W737NG:
I'm currently trying to decide btw U12+ and S9+ now, but reading through this thread is nearly depressing. If I go with S9+, it will be for sure an Exynos here in Italy (currently 636€ dual sim no brand), I would like to go for the SD but it would mean import taxes and such with higher cost...

In this regard, if I go for the S9+, a couple of you mentioned package disabler pro: which is the correct app, the brown icon one or the blue? There's also a blue one for Samsung.

Tnx
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
Honestly, I wouldn't mind all the bashing and complaining here.

I have Exynos version and I'm so happy, and I know people in other forums that are really happy with the battery as well, mostly from Spain, so you will get the same version.

Both are amazing devices, I used to have the U11+ and it was really good, but depends in what kind of software experience you are aiming to have.

;)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] W737NG:
Yeah I mean, the difference on endurance between E and SD can't be SO huge, otherwise Samsung wouldn't be able to stay quiet like this I think.

I'm mostly interested in the camera so I'll wait for the reviews, even if by pixelpeeping the files from dxomark looks like S9+ might still be leading a bit.

I'll stop here btw, don't want to get OT, sorry mods.

If anyone can enlight me on the correct app I would appreciate it, thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Like Galaxo60, I'm also very happy with the SOT I get from this phone. Attached another screenshot below - had relatively long periods of quite heavy use this time, hence why the AOD didn't have a chance to take up much battery hehe (although my battery stats say AOD was in use for over 3.5 hours).

Regarding the camera, from my point of view, I think all flagships have overall pretty much equivalent quality here. If I had to pick one, the Google Pixel 2 is probably still the best overall though (although it sounds like it's a bit slow in processing the image at times). I was also watching some OnePlus 6 camera reviews and actually preferred some pictures taken by it than the S9+ (keeping in mind the S9+ is much more expensive). I'm sure the latest HTC will be amazing too (I remember it actually surpassed the almost universally number one rated S7 camera in 2016) - they make incredible smartphones.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
U12+ is up wid few comparison reviews atleast in YT and some articles. Equipped WITH Sense UI, HTC always had cleaner interfaces with less bloats than Samsung UI/experience UI in my experience,having used the HTC one , HTC one m8 eye , HTC U11 in the past.

Sadly, I have the exynos s9+ in my country and equipped with an SoC that's scrutinized with negativities on the s9/s9 plus from the beginning and having been experienced with those negatives more or less on daily basis ,I would have waited a few more days to get a proper insight of the HTC U12+'s camera and then have taken a decision backed by a proven SD845 SoC, if I were you.

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Package disabler apps are 3rd party apps -something Samsung keeps forcing Google to get them removed from the playstore and Google keeps removing them for service violations, as Samsung wants users to use them whether u like them or not. So recommending a package disabler would be not ideal. Without them too, you can certainly get it through, via root access or without root access via adb commands but then it's something for you to taste based on how tinkering type you are. EOD it's your call. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
One thing that hasn't been mentioned (afaik) people with the Exynos version have one huge advantage over the Snapdragon variant - Unlocked Bootloader! So regardless of battery life - With Root access there's far more options available with the Exynos chip ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Thats so so true, but rooting isn't everyone's cup of tea, and keeping the tinkerers aside, a fast, fluid smartphone with a long lasting batterylife is what "other" vast majority prefer...

I'm by all means a "tinkering type", but my parents and family members are no way in that league and I rather give them one without root. And secondly-the warranty void.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
True enough - But with a Locked Bootloader you don't even have the option of getting proper Root - That'd be like your own Windows pc without Admin access ?

Sent from my SM-G955W ??
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Fair enough, but does the PC's or the MAC's warranty get void for having Admin access? Ofcourse it doesn't.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
In many parts of Europe Rooting does NOT void the Warranty - North America needs to place the consumer ahead of the corporations.

Somewhere the rights of ownership of Smartphones got sold out ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Here in my country Samsung sometimes does honor warranty and sometimes doesn't when knox counter is triggered. Not having a clear transparency on the same.

But even if they did, it wouldn't be alright to hand over a rooted smartphone to those who haven't heard of the word "root" in their lifetime with a risk of possible data breach, privacy concerns and financial losses at worst.

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I was in Cisco Network Data Centers for quite sometime, it was funny, irritating and a concern at the same time that, employees weren't allowed to configure their smartphones with exchange, if smartphones were rooted. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Cristi10:
My usage today. As you can see, i also had some heavy usage on google maps. The phone was shut down while i was applying a screen protector. It was 60% wi fi, 40% 4g.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
The google maps part sounds familiar hehe. Looks good, based on your use there, you're on track to achieve over 6 hours SOT and it doesn't look like you've "tweaked" much right? If the latest patch "fixes" the battery somehow, I honestly can't wait to see the SOT hehe.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Weuiwer:
I just got my phone yesterday. But my sot was terrible for first 2 cycles like 3 4 hours at max. I used heavily for first cycle as i was setting up my phone but second cycle was not promising either. I downloaded accubattery and completed a full 100 cycle i will post tomorrow when the cycle ends with all the infos.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Cristi10:
I uninstalled whatever i could (my csc version doesn't have much apps installed and most of them i can uninstall). I don't think that i did other tweaks, it's been pretty good, i just installed the may patch, so hopefully it will be even better now. What i want to see improved is standby drain. If i use the phone a lot it can last me quite a while ( about 1h/10% sot). If the srandby improves let's say, it cuts to half, i think i cand manage 2 days with my usage.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] harry92008:
Finally 6hrs of SOT. Took quite a few tweaks though. Renovate + Notorious Kernel+ greenify aggressive doze + most of the apps permanently sleeping. Some other tweaks. Too much effort to get decent SOT on such an expensive phone. Would get a note when it's out (given the battery is decent).
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Exactly my point.

Now coming to the Note 9, here is where my eyebrows get raised :

1. Since the Note 9 would be equipped with the same In-house & Qualcomm SoCs and since the 9810 is more powerful than the SD845 , will Samsung get it right with the N9 Exynos as they will again have to de-tune to match with the latter and in case the scheduler mechanisms, kernel shi* don't walk hand in hand with that "matching".

2. Rumors suggest of having the N9 with a massive battery but rumors may blow out of proportion (looking back at Note 7 fiasco):)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] itstock:
Existing discernible diff. can be removed via software updates making way to the Galaxy Note 9.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] INFERNO997:
So far, so god ... this is the newest update on dual sim exynos variant. No gaming, about 4-5h music streaming, 2h video watching and the rest is just regular use.

https://imgur.com/a/IeKLUzf
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Looks good. Did you use dual sims btw?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] INFERNO997:
I have two sims in the phone, occasionally I use two at the same time, but 80% of the time I use my main sim only.

For me, the battery life is good given the processor enormous power. My only complain is that the phone gets hot sometimes, but it is summer after all.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
Another cycle of usage:

:)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] mtm1401:
Signal strength and screen brightness are the big killers in all honesty. If you can minimise standby drain there isn't much else you can do.

Look at the ratio between time spent at different brightness levels vs % battery drained at each level. When I'm inside its 3/1, when I'm outside it's 1/1.6. (Can't be bothered to do the maths fully to show the rates of drain but you can hopefully see what I mean)

Also it's really easy to hit the 24 hour mark if you go to bed with more than 20% as the phone will sit nicely idling and make the stats look great ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Cristi10:
It seems that after the may update battery life is better. At least the standby is improved, i will see in the following days.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] mtm1401:
Damn that's some good standby drain, I average 3% but think that's driven by several factors, I.e. I tend to charge my phone overnight, AOD is on, Bluetooth headphones and Spotify & always check my phone too much so interrupt doze etc.. Have you modded your phone much?

I noticed that recently the cores don't spin up to the full frequency so wonder if Samsung modded that quietly in an update?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] dknugr:
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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] dknugr:
here is mine
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Nice. Is that Exynos? Looks good, especially with AOD enabled and in use for over 12 hours there.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] dknugr:
yes, G965F Exynos version. I was also surprised, and I believe if AOD is turned off it will get more SOT
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
For sure you will get more - you can see AOD took up 7% battery, so I think you'd actually still be on 12% based on your screenshot and could probably push towards 7 hours SOT. Again, sounds very familiar hehe.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
"BRE5" weighing 426.25 MB OTA being pushed for Indian GS9+ users. Do update, let the ROM "settle" in a week and check for batterylife & SOT.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] xmatharux:
I havent updated my phone since April and just received the newest software update. sounds like its helped people a little - is it worth rebooting my phone to factory settings after the update?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Do factory reset it, and then erase cache in recovery post installations of your apps and setting them up.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
For me the BRE update really improved battery life, and moreover, it fixed Android System battery drain, so I have it enabled now with no further implications.

:)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] :
The Exynos variant, and I get from 3.5 to 4.5 screen on time depending on my usage, which is mostly LTE and I use OVPN a lot, which is the number one app that drains my battery especially on LTE.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
[MENTION=9156259]Sobertooth[/MENTION] pm sent ?

Sent from my SM-G965W ??
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] madvinegar:
Here is mine. Not too bad I think. I believe a black theme assists.

Exynos Duos model. April security update (ARD4).

If the May security update helps even more, that would be great.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Attached below is another good example of the low standby/idle/light use drain of this phone, despite AOD enabled and in use for a very long time (as you can see, there was some heavy usage too with GPS navigation on high accuracy for over an hour). I'm still on the ARD6 update too. If the BRE5 update improves battery life, this would be remarkable. I think I can easily go 3-4 days of light use with this phone, especially if AOD was disabled.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
Thanks.

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Err that's not good. Just 3 hours sot usage and mostly on standby.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
Here's the Battery on my S9+

I've only had the phone a few days - but I'm pretty happy with the battery life etc - Still have some more tweaks to try ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] xmatharux:
That's amazing that's exactly what I want ! Tbh I don't really care about SOT as I use the screen for about 3/4 hours per day..what I do care about is standby drain which looks like is a big thing. I probably get 4 hours SOT over 26 hours ...roughly 3-6 % hour drain.

What would be the best way to reduce standby drain as low as possible (and no I don't want to turn off data or WiFi..that's the whole point of doze)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Not good? People are complaining of only getting 3-4 hours SOT with total 10-15 hours on battery. And I'm showing 3-4 hours SOT (note I still have 18% battery left at the time of the screenshot, so I'd easily achieve 4 hours or more if I used the screen before the standby/AOD drain uses it up hehe) with total 64 hours on battery. You write "mostly on standby", which doesn't make sense to justify what you imply is a low SOT - as I said, the 3-4 hours SOT I achieved there included over an hour of heavy usage etc. I also performed about 40 minutes of web browsing etc.

I'd like to see what SOT you achieve with AOD enabled and in use for over 32 hours and on battery for over 64 hours. Note I'd still be on about 36% battery if I didn't have AOD enabled. Also, this is without any tweaks or any black theme etc.

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AOD definitely takes up a lot of the battery life if you don't plan to charge your phone everyday. As you can see from the screenshot, it used 18% of battery over the 64 hour period. With it enabled and in use, I notice about 1% total battery drain per hour - I think it uses an extra ~0.5%-0.8% battery per hour, which does add up over longer periods off the charger.

Standby drain (where the screen is off and you're not running eg. a game in the background on purpose etc) of >1-2% per hour shows that something isn't right, in my opinion. It could be that you've got several apps "waking up" the phone intermittently perhaps, thus preventing it to go into "Doze"? Or more annoyingly, there could be built-in background "rubbish" processes running, possibly "planted" by your carrier etc? I don't know, just speculating.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] narcis1974:
Rooted phone,no ?

Trimis de pe al meu SM-G965F folosind Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
Stock Unrooted - Just adb commands to enable normally Root apps - Also I don't know what Power Saving Mode people are using when posting their battery info - But Power Saving Mode is OFF on my device ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
How much do you speak over phone daily ? Aside from it, SOT is almost equal to actual usage time in our hands now a days.

With Doze mode since Marshmallow nd up it's really easy to hit 1,2,3 days mark keeping the phone idle most of the time with a very low sot like 3 hours and little more. Definitely people use several hours more than 3,4 hours in total 3 days. You can get the same even with the regular s9 with the poorest batterylife in the series. Achieve more sot and see for how long it runs after setting up the phone properly.

In my old posts of G9650 and G965F screenshots just imagine how many days would I get if those phones were used with just 3 hours SOT and with a single SIM card in them. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Not sure how that justifies your implications - I think there's a language barrier issue.

I could probably get 15 hours SOT easily if I watched a offline video in airplane mode, but I'm not trying to "show off" the highest SOT I can possibly get. I'm using the phone in my real life, and it just so happened that I didn't use it much over those couple of days or so. I would be interested to know what exactly you did during those 15 hours of SOT. I'm quite sure you didn't do gaming for 15 hours for example.

You say it's "really easy" to get 3 hours SOT over several days, when I already told you that there are some people who have posted on these forums who are struggling to get 3 hours over less than one day.

Imagine how many days I would get if I tweaked like you did and had AOD disabled. Again, AOD uses up significant battery over 2-3 days.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
Language barrier ? Or real world usage barrier ?

Use the phone in airplane mode and get 15 hours sot watching offline video? U r most welcome ,do it and see if you can get.

Most olpeople getting 3,4 hours sot in 10,12 hours is correct only, they are right. It's just that their phones haven't been set correctly or nothing has been done at all to get better batterylife. I too get 4-5 hours of sot in 14,15 hours when I do not tweak the G-965F.

But then what about your 2 days 16 hours and just 3 hours usage>>>Thats not how one uses a phone man .It just "shows off" the standby endurance as the math is that it's just little over 1 hour per 24 hours, making no sense of real world use.

Those 15 hours of sot - only if you use you gonna get that. With no such tweaks it gives much less but always so much more than that of the G965F-the exynos model. Cheers;)