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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
I think your comment here possibly exposes a language barrier, as you seem to have interpreted me being "fond" of gsmarena - given that the S9+ loses to the S8+ on gsmarena (albeit only by a small amount), why would I be "fond" of it to support my points? It actually supports your points more, but then as we've already established, you clearly discount gsmarena. The galling thing is that you seem to put more weight in arguably even more "unscientific" data with your comment "

I am just not seeing...

". I've heard about shooting one's own foot, but someone's foot must be very painful by now!

Furthermore, in the last few hours that we've been exchanging posts here, there've been two people posting SOTs exceeding 7-10 hours. I notice they are using the 256Gb exynos variant, which is actually the same as mine - I maxed out the specs since I knew I was getting it for free hehe. Perhaps the 256Gb exynos variant has better than usual battery life? Or perhaps the updates including April 1 have improved the battery life like what anandtech referred to?

I feel there's a "clutching at straws to make my points seem less valid" theme (I forget what this fallacy is called in philosophy hehe) happening in your posts since I called you out on making a comment about your "SD variant having no problems and is cheaper yet way better battery than the exynos variant" rant. You seem to be heavily distracted by gsmarena tests - again, I'd suggest re-reading my posts. You're basically saying/implying that the way I used "probably" should be replaced by "certainly", but then that wouldn't be accurate as neither you or I did the testing in gsmarena, so we are by no means "certain".

And again, all I have to say about this comment here is how "unscientific" it is. At least my 1-2% came from some objective data. For whatever it's worth, I'd like to re-iterate that I've seen many comments on youtube etc mention that they are satisfied with the battery life on the S9+ exynos variant. In fact, this thread itself is littered by it! But even if there wasn't a single comment like this, that wouldn't prove anything - absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Remember that there are probably millions of people out there that are satisfied with their phones who don't bother reading or commenting on forums like these. On the other hand, I've noticed that no matter how good the battery life is on a certain smartphone, there'll always be people making comments that it's not good. I remember actively reading about the S7 and S7 Edge when they were released - many tests/reviews (on both personal and business levels) showed it had great battery life, but various forums were still littered by people being unhappy with it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Mihnea1996:
Has someone noticed a difference between March and April security patch on Exynos variant? Bought mine few days ago, just curious if Samsung tried to improve something. The update was pretty big for a regular security patch(around 65MB).
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
I've read everything u typed, just couldn't find anything meaningful at all to be considered eligible to respond back as whatever u have been typing for the last few msgs are having no relation to the battery life or sot or such, all u have shown was all about the same 3 or 4 unscientific but same stacked tests proving absolutely nothing aconpanied by "probably" and "perhaps" terms invalidating your own claims.

Those 7,8 hours SoT, yeah I know how to get them, got them too easily , have seen many earlier, some1 even posted 10 HR SOT with more than 4 days of runtime in this thread itself ..!!?

Internet is flooded with such results too, unfortunately XDA hasn't been spared.

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256 gb Exynos variant has better battery life??? Are u seriously saying this? R u even having basics of how SoC functions with respect to the firmware ?? I'm not surprised u r far away from understanding a governor, let alone the schedutil . Or I should forgive you as that's another "perhaps"!!! I got the latest update too, and was the first person to inform it in another thread & asked users if they saw any changes , as I haven't found any in battery endurance.

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I can go on and on, but I think I'll have to look at many irrelevant arguments later? Certainly not worth it. Bye.

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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
The only thing new to mention in response to this is that I never said simply having 256Gb variant equates to a better battery life - there are several other possibilities why this variant may have better battery life, including manufacturing/assembling errors in non-256Gb variants.

Otherwise nothing new to respond to there, so "Bye" seems like a good conclusion to our discussion.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
Security Patch updates are regularly ~ 50 Meg for my different devices... ?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Despite the somewhat mocking tone from Virgo_Guy of this, this is actually believable as long as you have AOD disabled. This is what happens when you don't do any moderate-heavy tasks for more than a few minutes a day, and go several hours at a time during the day not actually using the phone much. For me, it simply reflects the quite excellent standby drain.

And given the standby drain is very good, it actually adds more weight to those "stacked" tests that I recently linked showing the S9+ exynos doing very well with its battery and handling heavy tasks - sure, that's not how most people use their phones, but I think the only difference is that they don't do all those heavy tasks in a "stacked" fashion - there's "standby drain" in between these tasks. Therefore, I think the "stacked" tests are only not very meaningful if the standby drain is terrible, as the overall battery drain is not captured well. However, since standby drain appears to be universally excellent (seems to apply to all phones in general actually), I think these 'stacked" tests are a good reflection of real-world battery life. Could be wrong, but just trying to use logic to make conclusions. Would be nice if others could do the same hehe.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
First(317.06 MB) received on 30th March, 2nd(61.33 MB) on 25th April. Apart from wallpaper quality change, I haven't seen any noticiable improvement or might have missed.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Boy, thats now how manufacturing/assembling is done or varies based on storage capacity for the same model. Neither u have the basic technicality to understand my old msgs nor this one due to your lack of maturity or experience. U r living in a world of "probably", "perhaps", "may" & "possibility" that all together confuse you affecting your thought process......

U forced me to respond 1 more time and I did, absolutely just not another time no matter how many times u keep trying.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
I'd appreciate it if you could use logical arguments against any statement/argument, rather than ad hominem attacks. Also, no one is forcing you to respond. Also, words like "probably" and "perhaps" are often used to be charitable.

Regarding manufacturing and assembly, I would suggest that mistakes can happen in certain batches etc all across the board, with every single component of a phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Shan89:
9+ exynoss
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
When u respond continuously with poor, illogical-driven statements, I'm forced to respond with logical arguments, so technically u r the one forcing me everytime to respond.

"Probably" , "perhaps", "may" etc. are not "data" to prove yourself. Such statements simply make this thread clunky and cluttered, let alone having no relevance.

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Manufacturing Issues with batches can happen across the board, but it has got nothing to do with storage capacity(UFS 2.1 on the s9 series) and storage capacity has got nothing to do with battery life. So, completely disagree with you and your suggestions r of no use. But you would end up responding and twisting your own stuff as if u meant something else..... Instead, stick to the thread, be factual, understand the completely data driven outcomes of anandtech, strategy analytics' thorough analysis on the chips being used on the s9 duos and If NOT interested, forget everything and enjoy ur phone without flooding out here with loads of irrelevance. U r fine with your s9 plus, not me and I'm not alone, in fact there r uncountable people facing it when i search it online and hardly find any1 using the snapdragon version having bad battery life, throttling or facing heating issues. I've a few flagships lying around with me, none produces such issues as much as the s9 plus does. Tried another s9 plus, to come up with same results and I completely agree with those lab testings unlike you. Hope my discussion with u dies here as this thread is just getting flooded and looks cluttered, and I have zero interests in your responses.

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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Zero interest in my responses, yet you are responding to them. Just another example of why this discussion needs to "die here" - at least we can agree on that.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Looks good. With a single sim installed, I get good results, ofcourse lower than yours but still acceptable. But when I use with 2 sims(no network issues), its a different story though.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
An example of my real-world experience so far:

Posted on another forum:

https://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=883604&p=6232984&viewfull=1#post6232984

Some further musings - battery strengths:

1. Low idle drain, even with AOD enabled and in use (~1% per hour) - I say "in use", as AOD can be enabled but actually automatically disabled when in eg. pocket - in this case, the idle drain should be even lower.

2. Low drain when watching offline videos (but I think most modern smartphones are excellent with this)

3. Low drain with bluetooth (again, probably applies to all other modern smartphones)

4. Only moderate drain with what I consider to be a heavy task like continuous High accuracy GPS with mobile data.

With regard to extremely heavy use, examples of such scenarios can be seen in previous links posted in this thread, where the S9+ exynos did very well in a real-world situation - of course, it may not be how people use their phones everyday (after all, who has time to be continuously gaming, watching video etc for 7 hours straight on their smartphone hehe), but they are real-world situations all the same.

With my current discharge cycle, I just watched around 2-2.5 hours of YouTube via the built-in Samsung browser and lost around 10-15% - I'm pretty happy with that. Seems to be another strength of the S9+ exynos.

EDIT: watching YouTube was via Wi-Fi (strong connection at home).
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Mihnea1996:
Using S9+ for about 2 weeks. The battery life seems pretty decent to me compared to my old flat S7. What are the chances of improving something with a firmware update? Samsung is going to release the Note 9 in six months and the will use the same Exynos. These mistakes cannot be there again.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] eduardmc:
I use BK package disabler. I read that ut has been remove from the olay store. Only who downloaded it before should work
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] xmatharux:
Can't find that bk package disabler anywhere
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
A request to all: whoever posts battery endurance, plz mention the following :

1. Snapdragon or Exynos version.

2. The entire lists of tweaks such as

applying of black theme , wifi Scanning off or not, data/wifi both on or one is off, nearby device Scanning is on or off, whether wifi power saving on or off, how many email accounts r in use and how many are in sync and what all are in sync, gallery etc r in sync to cloud or not, location method is in high accuracy/battery saving/GPS only, "improve accuracy" is on or off, if any power saving is enabled, "smart stay" and other measures in advanced feature settings are on or off, if any package disabler or manually disabling stuff via adb etc.....

3. Single or dual sim used.

4. Show the screenshot in full using "scroll capture".
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] pepo187:
I have really bad battery life with my Exynos version...3 hours and 15 minutes...and Imcon 15% battery left. I used to get 5 hours easily on S8+ ....this is unacceptable!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] pahick:
My phone just shut off and I plugged it in right away, then took a screen shot. Over 7 hrs SOT. Verizon S9+
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] hem.acharya:
Not worse than mine.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Hangoverr:
I'm sure everyone is concerned about their battery life. But what are you doing really matters. If you leave everything on, then you have to expect bad battery life. How many apps you have. What is syncing in the background, how many sensors are working, all those matter. Post those details

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Same thing applies to people who are posting 10 hr battery life. If you are just reading text with not many apps, then you will get it, but please provide more info on what you are doing, what's enabled and how many apps you have and how they are syncing.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] hem.acharya:
I don't k kw why but Android system consumes a lot of battery life for me. I am mostly on wifi I expect better sot.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
Was likely pulled from the Play Store for the same reason as SABS Thread has been locked - DMCA and you can "thank" Samsung - BK Disabler was replaced briefly with BK Manager and that's been pulled as well - Don't know if the Dev is willing to get into a legal battle with Samsung & wouldn't blame him if he didn't!

I'm fortunate enough have the app already ?

Sent from my SM-G955W ??
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] xmatharux:
Oh boo couldn't you just upload the APK to somewhere then?

Also someone please explain why I have a battery drain of roughly 5.5% per hour - that's with location battery saving and 4g/WiFi yet at night when I basically turn all my data off it does to about 1-2%...something is keeping my phone awake using data but I don't get why this is so complicated (btw this has always been the case with all my phones)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] shaggyskunk:
No - It's a paid app.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] xxaa:
Here they say Exynos = very bad battery time cause by cluster and changing state not optimise :

https://www.androidcentral.com/samsungs-galaxy-s9-battery-problems-explained

Did you speak about the update for Exynos ? In the comment someone say february update= bad, march update is back on track.

Otherwise I read somewhere else that qwhd give about 3 hour SOT and FHD 5 to 7 hours. The same as before with S8+.

I'm reluctant to buy this kind of short time battery life phone to start, so you kind of scare me if I don't have 5 to 7 SOT !
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
No update fixed anything related to battery life I assure you.

Galaxy note 9 is supposed to have an early release with a much bigger battery and quick charge 4.

https://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-release-date-specs-camera-pricing-cost-02529417/
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Cristi10:
Today's results, i was away since morning always connected to lte, when i got home switched to wifi. It really shows that it depends how you use your phone and sot is fluctuating. I used my phone as a hotspot for like 3 hours today and i didn't always had the best reception. Qwhd+
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Tweakecho:
didn't get any pics but brand new out of box with a quick top off yesterday morning leaving house at 0600, i was down to ~18% with 4.5 hours of SOT at about 2230. most of screen was the random fb with some youtube and music streaming for about an hour.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] :
s9+ 256gb exynos here (power saving off).

mainly emails, whatsapp and web surfing... :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Like mine or somewhat better than mine.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Hangoverr:
Seems like you don't have any apps installed.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] crossdeath:
pretty satisfied, using the exynos variant
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Makes me wonder how u guys use the phone. Single sim is having minor advantages [MENTION=3820914]batterylife[/MENTION]. But How's that unbelievable endurance as yours?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] crossdeath:
well, i honestly don't know

brightness set to auto, i use wifi/lte during the day, apps that i mostly use are chrome, facebook and instagram, sync is on, aod is turned off..
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Hangoverr:
Do you have Google activity controls turned on? I used to get 5 hrs sot during 1 day usage. After turning it off, I'm getting 7 to 8 hrs usage with 2 days usage.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Hangoverr:
My battery life with above change
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] hem.acharya:
If it's in by default then I haven't turned it off. How do I turn it off. From device settings or google settings?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Hangoverr:
Settings - google - personal info and privacy - activity controls. Also put apps which you don't need to sync continuously to sleep. You should receive notifications still depending on how they implemented it though.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Google's activity control is useful in various ways. Turning them off isn't ideal....but yes, since it's Samsung, probably one needs to do so to get some acceptable batterylife, unlike other flagships.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Hangoverr:
Right. It's completely users perspective. Everyone has good battery life. Only difference is what is your priority. Is it screen on time or stand by time or just constant updates. Most of the people who say I had bad battery life, they have to start thinking what their priority is. Some like to allow background apps and google data mining and that's helpful if they use that and they are putting their battery life into it. But for some who don't need that they have to make sure those are turned off so they can get good stand by time or screen on time.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Differentiates and makes lot of sense when one doesn't need to turn them off one by one in other flagships(wherever applicable) , like my old pixel 2 xl or Current oneplus 5t.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Hangoverr:
Yeah. Im just talking about s9 and s9 plus.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] omer7:
How to turn it off? Where can i find its settings?

Edit: Ok, i have found it in my mobile. But what things have u disabled under "Activity Controls"? Because there are different things showing like web & app activity, device information, voice & audio activity etc.?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Hangoverr:
I have disabled everything. But it's up to you and depends on what you use. Google activity controls is not the only things. We have to put all apps to sleep as shown below in your battery settings.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
That's interesting. Looks like by default, all Activity controls are "Paused" for me except "YouTube Search History" and "YouTube Watch History". Not sure if that's because I disabled them when first setting up the phone (via that "setup wizard" thing that automatically starts after a factory reset)?

I'm one of many here reporting very good battery life on the S9+ exynos. It certainly would make sense that Pixel 2 XL doesn't suck as much battery with all these "Activity controls" enabled as on S9+ (since Google would have things more optimised on their phones). It would be very interesting if those reporting bad battery life on the S9+ get good battery life with these Google services disabled (including that SMS app permissions one I referenced before).
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Hangoverr:
We have to remember that pixel is designed to be efficient with Google os. If they can't accomplish that, they don't get any sales. Also, pixel has very very less features compared to Samsung phones. Not everything is used by everyone, but we have to only enable what we use. Many people ask why not get a pixel if you are disabling everything. Well no one makes displays like Samsung .some people like me but samsung for that. And having a s9 plus for 500 bucks within release of month, why not buy Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Hangoverr:
I know this is not right way to get usage while charging. But I had to plugin charger and step aside for sometime. I plugged in when I had 4% left and sot was 7 hr 2 min. another thing I did, disbaled fast charging. I don't need fast charging Everytime. I just enable when I'm in a hurry. Disabling it extends the life of your battery. Trust me it does. Otherwise you are looking at reduced battery life within a year. Had to sell my axon 7 for that reason.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Yes indeed. I personally would have gone with the Pixel 2 XL (or wait for the Pixel 3 XL) if I wasn't already used to the Samsung environment (I was using S7 before) and if I actually had to pay for the S9+ (I got it for free). In saying that, there are certainly several advantages of the S9+ over the Pixel 2 XL, as even the people complaining about poor battery life here admit.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] IllyaK:
How did you get it for free?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Not sure how that's relevant in this thread hehe, but it's quite simple - someone got it for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] IllyaK:
Lucky you haha. Question right now, I have an s9 plus that I got for 600. I can sell it for 700 of craigslist, and get a different phone. Would any of you guys recommend me any phone to buy or wait for? I have my eyes on oneplus 6 but am unsure of the quality of the phone and customer care of oneplus. I know it is off topic but I hope some of you guys can give me advice on this subject.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] turtuv:
My sot is ridiculous. I never reached 4hours. I don't know if I have a defected battery

Inviato dal mio SM-G965F utilizzando Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
No defective battery, no defective phone or such unless u r living in an area with very poor network receptions. I assure you that people getting very good batterylife are more or less tweaking and disabling various features.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
I would never consider a OP6 over the S9+ at least that you are addicted to ROM flashing and development. The S9+ is the most balanced and versatile phone in the market right now. I returned my Pixel 2 XL back in February because screen is garbage and it had many issues with software and compatibility, so the best is to keep the S9+ and wait for Pixel 3 to see if they fixed the few things needed. I would love to see the S9+ hardware with Pixel software.

;)

As the guy is pointing out, coverage, applications and configurations will impact directly to your battery, but coverage is the one you can't change unfortunately.

As long as you have the proper configuration, you can achieve pretty decent times. This is from now, which I think is my best so far; no special tweaks or disabling settings, WQHD+ resolution, mixed usage WiFi/LTE, 3 mail accounts syncing always, full Google Now usage, GPS enabled all time in high accuracy, Bluetooth and Wifi enabled the whole time, etc. The only thing I disabled is AOD because is not useful to me:

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