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[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] :
I would suggest flash any other rom than this one, i also tried everything but drainage remains the same , by the time it will get fixed.good:
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] solim:
It's amazing what all of you guys are doing without official sources (shame on xiaomi for not respecting gpl). I mean come on, they released stable nougat not long ago and we are playing with oreo thanks to you. A big props and keep on rocking :highfive:
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] MattHdH:
Weather cannot work,, not shown data
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Pawnzer:
There is no system calendar app.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Lukitos97:
Which one is better in terms of performance/speed and battery life. This rom or Nitrogen OS Oreo 8.1?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] MattHdH:
Anyway, how to flash LH kernel. I am already flash, and booted. but a few minutes later, my phone rebooted looks like bootloop.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Mr. Hase:
For me both are the same, but I use the Roms with LH Kernel
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] super bird:
The battery needs urgent enhancements due to the drain
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] rootedmind:
just flash it same as ROM, via TWRP
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Mr. Hase:
flash rom

reboot

after the first start go to twrp

flash lh kernel

wipe cache / dalvik

reboot

enjoy

this worked for me
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] kl34n:
Can anyone give the link for LH kernel, please? Thanks in advance

Enviado do meu Redmi 4X através do Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] keysersozer:
https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3738247

Gesendet von meinem Redmi 4X mit Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] kl34n:
is this better than Clarity kernel? sorry for the noob questions
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] jk2108:
Can u guys tell me abt the oms substratum themes....becos rr rom ks all about personalising the device....since currently the two best themes i tried was pitch black and swift black...both wont work with oms....both works with legacy roms....the oreo builds out there fr santoni are oms only....can i have any possible way to have themes fr my phn
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Pawnzer:
Both kernels are great , and I've used them both. But for now, I used LH Kernel.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Bones13:
Try turning off ambient display
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Nik001:
RR OTA is broken. RR team will add new ota app soon
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Dynaguy:
LH kernel has issues with some devices , it won't boot and shows no sim likes that
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] tenoce:
Is anyone else experiencing issues when connecting Bluetooth with the latest release? I can connect to other bluetooth devices, but voice is not transferred to loudspeaker (such as my car audio or Jabra loudspeaker).
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] tjengo:
I can confirm.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] tenoce:
Bluetooth bug report

*****BUG REPORT*****

I'd like to report a bug: when connecting Bluetooth with the latest release, I can connect to other bluetooth devices, but voice is not transferred to loudspeaker (such as my car audio or Jabra loudspeaker).

Logcat file attached to the post.

View attachment 4428569
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] vaas kr:
When battery percent crosses 50 and below , the display becomes light yellow tint... :confused:

Is there any settings for disabling it?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] xzy99:
Yes, bug is legit, even I am experiencing it.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] brcr:
How much SOT do you get?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] xzy99:
9-10 hours or more.. using greenify + alucard governer + gms doze so obvious
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] brcr:
kernel?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] NTLinhHaHa:
Is it because of the battery percentage, or the time of the day?

Have you ever heard about LiveDisplay, and Night Light? Check it out in Display settings inside the Settings app.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] vaas kr:
It was set to automatic :D

From Yesterday wondering what causing it ...

Btw i checked only night light from settings and it was off only... But didn't check live display... :good:
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] NTLinhHaHa:
Automatic = off in day, on at night. Put LiveDisplay to off will probably solve your issue. But that yellow tint is good for your eyes though. Try changing the color temperature.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] xzy99:
LH oreo
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] MattHdH:
Yes I did that. But still like bootloop. Anyway I am on baseband v32 globaldev. whether it is influential? And my device 4x variant (3gb/32gb)

My steps are the same but still bootloop. But anyway I am using Gabriel Kernel now,,, and fix my heating issue.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Bismuth83:
need link

plz provide the download link for luis build.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Mixified:
Thanks ;)
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] His Dudeness:
Uhmm...download link is dead.

Anyways, judging by the problems reported, would be better stick to an stable Nougat ROM for some time.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Mixified:
I have a question, on my device already installed RR 5.8.5 with encryption is on. The problem is if i reboot a device, the saved fingerprints aren't recognized. If i install RR 6.0.0, do i have to format data from TWRP to solve the problem ?

Sorry for my bad english :crying:
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] keysersozer:
Its a bit crazy. Same Problem here.

And if u restore a data Partition from nandroid backup with active Fingerprints or any other security all fp and pws are wrong.

Try disable all security settings and then make data Backup or flash Rom.

Otherwise.. U have to wipe data.

Sry for Bad english. [emoji23]

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Im back to rr nougat too.

Much smoother and better Overall experience. Lets wait a bit for oreo. [emoji6]

Gesendet von meinem Redmi 4X mit Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Mixified:
OK i'll try, thanks :o
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] domi.nos:
I downloaded v 6 here https://sourceforge.net/projects/resurrectionremix-oreo/files/santoni/
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] vishalpal555@gmail.com:
can anyone telle whats the key number for fp scanner
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gogyly:
For all of you who experience overheating , just update to firmware V32 and then clean flash this room. It worked for me.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] prin2ce:
Best ROM for santoni , Getting 11 hrs of sot just some ui glitches here and there I think they are from source side thank you [MENTION=6569827]Nik001[/MENTION]
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Prathu_:
How's this ROM?

Any better than Pixel experience rom? I am currently on Pixel experience rom...
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gogyly:
I'd say all of Oreo roms are quite similar in mean of speed and some source bugs. You need to know what you like and then decide what is best for you. I like RR from nougat days so I just hop on the Oreo release as soon as they make it stable.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Prathu_:
Is it stable?

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What do I have to do to switch from Pixel experience to this rom?

New to this
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] sonalsaha:
Clean Flashed. Booting up and then restarting. tried both firmware 28 and 32. Solutions Please.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] juhasz.jozsef:
When I tried clean flash I got bootloop...

For me the following worked:

Im on v32 firmware and TWRP 3.2.1

1 flash rom.

2 wipe data&cache then reboot to recovery!!!

3 flash unofficial gapps nano

4 wipe data&cache then you can reboot to System

5 after finishing setup, you may flash magisk v16 if you want root...
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] sonalsaha:
did the exact same thing, did not work. Same thing happening with all Lineage based roms. AOSP rom working fine.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gogyly:
I'm on redwolf recovery (go to worldgiz for that, never had problem flashing anything through it)

So steps are

- Wipe everything except SD card and internal storage then select install

- Go to your downloaded rom and install it

- Go to your downloaded gapps (I'm using nano) and install it.

Then reboot, you don't need to wipe cashes or anything.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] juhasz.jozsef:
When I tried clean flash I got bootloop... :(

I suspect it must be an opengapps related bug.

Without opengapps clean flash is fine.

Same thing with alomst all oreo roms...

Might also be TWRP 3.2.1 bug...
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gogyly:
This gapps work with me open_gapps-arm64-8.1-nano-20180119-UNOFFICIAL
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Pa4h:
SourceForge.net does not open. Upload firmware, recovery and GAAPS with third-party file hosting. Thanks!
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] drivtheod:
Try to remove sim tray and probably it will boot.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] juhasz.jozsef:
Now it's working fine, but later I'll give it a try.

Anyone else having issues with BT car audio media control buttons not working? Worked fine in nougat...

Other than that, great ROM thanks dev!
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] sonalsaha:
Thanks A lot. seems like my jio sim card registration was triggering reboot.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gogyly:
I think it's a Oreo bug. Don't know if anyone solved that for now. Did you try to disable battery optimization for BT?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Prathu_:
Hey,

I'm currently on Pixel experience ROM, and I want to switch to this rom, can anyone please help me do that.

I'm very new to this.

?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] xxXDeaDlyGhoStXxx:
I did a clean install of this ROM.

I charged it to 100% and in morning it was 82%

I killed all apps using greenify.

I have attached screenshot of my complete battery cycle.

I think SOT is ok but Dev needs to work on standby.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gogyly:
You should try clarity kernel. I'm using v2.0 and battery backup is great
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] eliezerben:
Exactly. I loose more charge when device is in standby than when the screen is on.

Hopefully bugs will be fixed faster now as official source of kernel has been released
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] FrankKrue:
please [MENTION=6569827]Nik001[/MENTION] implement power on scheduling now that kernel source are released

thanks for your work
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Rezaul Kaim:
If pocket direction on battery drain about 6-7% per hour

And please add app locker like RR nougat..

Thanks for the excellent rom..?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] xdaksumesh431:
Greenify always drained more battery fr me by running in background tbh...i prefer using governers and wakelocks fr standby optimisation...

And in this case...rr actually has more standby drain than other oreos...same result with all kernels :/
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] criticallife:
is there a way on how you can change its font style ?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] rvj5:
Is it also for red 69mi 4 2gb/indian variant?

Is it work with my redmi 4? Please answer! And please tell me which steps I need to take to flash it?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] gogyly:
Mate don't quote whole op.

And of course it will work with redmi 4/4x.

Need to do full wipe (except SD card and storage), then flash zip, then flash gapps (8.1 unofficial) .
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Yousef Algadri:
Don't quote the whole OP please

Yeah, it works for Redmi 4 (santoni not prada)
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Android Jaeger:
Kernel Source for Redmi 4X released:

Link:

https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/santoni-n-oss/
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] eliezerben:
I noticed that Tap to Wake was turned on. When I turned it off, the battery drain stopped during standby.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] metelhammer:
first of all thank you very much for this ROM and efforts been put into, i found this issues/bugs hope this get fixed in future update and since now they have released kernel source codes.

i did not faced any major issues/bugs with this rom as this is first build but i would like to mention that came across.

1. battery drain on standby both day and night, i did feel device bit warm in pocket during day time.

2. while charging device getting hot than normal even battery portion feels warm after reaching some % charge device feels normal or no heat or warm. if possible it would be great if device charge at normal speed if there is any changes in charging speed.

3. double tap to wake not working.

4. while using with mobile data battery drain fast.

5. device feels warm when connected to pc.

in short the main issue i found is device getting warm in various situations and stand by time battery drain other than haven't faced any issue.

this issue maybe solved if i use custom kernel but since we now have original source code i am waiting for some kernel based on official one.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] bodnar1026:
i waiting stabile Custom rom and Kernel. I like LineageOS aaand Resurrection Remix :) Amazing Official Kernel source 4X :)
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Prathu_:
This rom is good, but this is the most buggy rom i have ever used!

I cannot open Twitter, I cannot use protected apps(AppLock) at all!

In built app lock was the main reason I installed this rom, but that just stops!

Not only these there are many apps which stop with this error

PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] NTLinhHaHa:
Highly likely there's no change in charging speed. Monitor the device temperature and report back with full details and numbers. The battery getting warmer while charging is normal behavior. Anything under 42 C degree at room temperature (25 C deg) is acceptable and is not a bug.

This ROM doesn't have double tap to wake naturally, and high chance it won't, ever. You can acquire that feature through a custom kernel supporting it, such as Clarity.

That is also normal behavior. All phones drain the battery faster on mobile data than on wifi or on nothing. You need to specify how fast.

Is it because when you connect it to PC, the phone is in charging mode?

Yes but battery drain is one of the things that keeping me from using RR Oreo at this time though. I personally am still on RR 5.8.5.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Prathu_:
Can anyone please look into this and help me solve my problem!
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] metelhammer:
thank you very much for replying yes i do aware about device may get warm while when charging and that is normal thing but it is quite strange that the battery area also getting warm during charge and whole device feels warm the battery temperature varies in between 42 degree celsius to 46 degree celsius (checked using cpu-z) also i noticed that after reaching some charging level device doesn't get warm (at least it doesn't feel warm in hands and temperature is around 35 celsius ) my guess this rom might be designed to charge quickly at some charging % and later with normal speed.

also i noticed that device is getting charged fast than regular compared to MIUI 9 beta build or AEX and possibly this resulting into heat.

battery drain on standby consumed 16% of battery usage for me.

i do not remember after trying several roms exactly but i think double tap to wake is natively available in RR nougat version, maybe its a bug or it is not supported by rom yet.

yes this feature can be avail by custom kernel but currently i am not into using custom kernel such as clarity because currently they are based on ported sources, i will try them later since now we have official kernel source codes.

No, while when connected to PC device was in file transfer mode as i was copying data back to device and i did noticed the heat. it wasn't there while when i used MIUI 8/9 or AEX Oreo/nougat.

i really do appreciate the efforts put into making this ROM RR is my all time favorite ROM and i was waiting for this build since long and now it is available.

please be noticed that i do not want to criticise developers i just reported the things i noticed so that in future we can have pretty much stable build with less or no issues.

this is at least i can support by telling issues with rom.

thank you.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] flowi:
Can you please stop pestering busy devs and wait like everyone else does? To help you solve your problems: do NOT use early releases if you cannot wait a few days till the dev fixes a bug. Use a well-tested ROM if you can't deal with bugs. Do not hassle the dev by reposting your problems or USING CAPITAL LETTERS (in your earlier post) - he does this for free in his spare time, so the only thing written in capital letters should be THANK YOU.

Hope this solved a few of your misunderstandings.

Best regards from snowy Vienna

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Hi,

the thing with dt2w is that it WILL drain your battery on our device, no matter what.

In detail: Redmi4x uses a LCD panel as opposed to other devices using OLED panels.

LCD panels usually have a combined power source for the panel and the digitizer, i.e. you cannot power the digitizer without putting power on the LCD as well. Thus, if you want the device to wait for a double tap the LCD must be powered even in deep sleep, causing a certain degree of battery drain (of course the screen is off, no backlight etc. so the drain is limited, but it is unavoidable). Custom kernels try to reduce the drain, but cannot overcome hardware limitations.

OLED devices do not have the screen and the digitizer powered together. So these can be waiting for dt2w with just the digitizer powered, resulting in way less battery drain in deep sleep as the panel is completely shut down.

So even with the kernel code available, dt2w will still be an issue on santoni....
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] alzz:
Since lineageos 15.1 is released, is RR now rebased?

Is se policy now restrictive?

Thanks :)
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Mixified:
What is the best camera app to use in a this ROM? Because the stock camera is very poor to using :)
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] oziojik:
use MGC gcam mod
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] jadephyre:
Insulting people will get you nowhere, behave yourself.

Reported by the way.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] vishalpal555@gmail.com:
he shouldnt speak of what he doesnt know.... and he was earlier dictating other guy not to pursue for help to dev as if that guys is gonna help him... so i got to know that guy is bit rude.... and i had to be that way with him too.... but apologise as i shouldn't have said this to him in xda as its totally dev based.... but he deserved that in normal world...
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] leojbriones:
Battery

How about battery consumption? Still high as all the others Oreo ROMS?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] chrxss:
How can I add signature spoofing support. I want to install microG.

Since the ROM is odexed I cannot install the NanoDroid-patcher.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] sonalsaha:
Can we have a Oreo Go edition rom for Santoni. Light weight andorid system seems like a nice idea.
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] NTLinhHaHa:
If you know about the correct impact of dt2w on battery life and what he said was wrong, please correct his statement and prove us why he was wrong. How are you so sure that he doesn't know? I see his "dictating" as a way to protect and respect and the devs, and he did it with sincerity: "Can you please..." "Hope this solved a few of your misunderstandings."

Back to the problem, I am still confused if the difference between LCD and OLED panel technology has such an impact on smartphones' battery life. As you said he didn't know the right concept about it, can you please enlighten us?
[Xiaomi Redmi 4X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] ajayteja reddy:
Rom link pls?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KD8DNS:
i have a tilt and love it but is for personal use. i was told by my boss that if i got a blackberry he would pay the service. sooooo, instead of buying one at full price i was wondering if anybody in the u.s. on here had a bb curve for att for sale if so please e-mail me at kd8dns@yahoo.com
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] _Alex_:
In the future, the proper forum for this is the General section. Some mod will see this sooner or later and move it there.

Let's keep the flames off until then :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] twistkill:
eeeeeeeeeeew..u sure u wannna go for a blackberry??

;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kyphur:
Why not install the Blackberry software on your Tilt and let your boss pay for the Blackberry service?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KD8DNS:
he has this stupid i.t. guy and the jackass says it must be a blackberry device, i already brought up the software idea!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kyphur:
So tell your boss to buy you a Blackberry device since you already have a better solution and his retarded it guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] grandpareza:
I second that.

To be honest my friend, I had a Blackberry before coming to Tilt...among a million other phones. I had the Curve. You cant get AIM to work, the apps are trash, browser is worse than PIE before scroll fix, the maps didn't work right and sooo much more. You cant record movies, the pics are 2mp, and soo much more.

Thats my 2¢...but if your boss forces you...i suppose you could go with a pearl...its not as crappy as the curve.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KD8DNS:
ok so does anybody know who has one for sale really cheap
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Menneisyys:
Also, dont forget to repost your req to the forums at http://crackberry.com/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] srmz:
My problem is similar to KD8DNS.

I am about to be given a blackberry to access our company Lotus Notes mail on a Domino server. Our IT department insists that we are bound to use a blackberry device and not the connect software.

Can anyone tell me that if I install the software myself on my TyTn would my IT department be able to know of this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ben5757:
If you connect to corporate bb server, your IT have to grant access each time you connect a device to the server (whatever real bb device or wm device with bbconnect you use).

Same each time you reinstall the bb client (change rom, hard reset.....)

I had myself to convince them, and finally they accepted, to connect me thru bbconnect. Had given a try to bb device for a couple of months, but impossible to get used to it.