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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
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.... First show those "threads and forums" links here, otherwise users in this forum would love to disagree with what u agree to disagree[excluding 1 guy:laugh:]

.. Fans often get pain on back, get offended, become sentimental and jump into defending their expensive toys with poor irrelevance - merely I care about.

I stuck to the point that SD variant has maintained a balance of batterylife, heat and performance unlike the Exynos variant with proofs in my earlier posts that tore apart the ones sprouting lies. "Issues" with either of the variants is another discussion that I haven't discussed yet, so trying to divert the topic won't help ya.

I've to say. U r a rare person on earth finding Bixby useleful, a tool the rest of the world has been trying to get rid of. Like this :

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s9-plus/how-to/bixby-button-stay-die-t3780081/

1.Yes, it slightly saves battery when disabled as it stops taking up resources as the OS prevents it's services from running in the background. I already checked it few times earlier and though minimal, it does impact on battery when enabled.

2. Only when u enable the Bixby again, it checks & triggers for possible updates and not when u keep it disabled.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
I'm not going to spend time tracking down every post I've seen of people reporting great battery life. This forum itself already has plenty, whether qualified or unqualified, it's hard to tell in most cases. Then there's Samsung forums, androidcentral forums and numerous youtube comments which you can feel free to spend time searching through.

Again, you seem to want to enforce your unhappiness about battery life quite forcefully which of course you have every right to do - that's your experience and analysis. I've had my real-world experience and also have every right to report my satisfaction, contrary to yours. My attempt at a joke/humour and being charitable failed miserably above it seems hehe, regarding snapdragon...

Regarding Bixby, I have read and seen many videos of people finding it useful. And no, I am not going to link those hehe, as again, they are easy to find via Google or YouTube.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
You couldn't even bring a single link and constantly trying to prove otherwise using words like "many", "several", "forums", "plenty", "most cases" etc. Fact is there is NONE in the internet. Fact is, in many other forums(including Samsung and android central forums) , in a pool of unhappy consumers , there is one or two who come and say "I'm having very good batterylife" with the phone being tweaked just like a few in this forum itself.

I keep using several phones, so my unhappiness doesn't last long as I get another 1 to test. But enjoy it when I get to face people when they get injected with BS and keep trying to infect others, (NOT pointing at you here).

I support when Samsung shines, not when they fail or any smartphone for that matter.

Yeah, I keep watching tech videos, reading tech articles at every moment, everyday. And truth be told, no such "many" exist liking and finding Bixby useful. Only a very few exist,like you. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
The fact that you used words like "NONE" and then contradicted yourself in the same paragraph is interesting. You also have to remember that many people who are happy with their phones or battery life don't post about it. Android forums actually have many reporting great battery life and very few that are not.

Bixby is actually very useful in specific situations but certainly not essential. It's sort of a gimmick in a way, but it can do many things faster compared to manually tapping away - it's growing on me. I certainly wasn't a fan of it initially, but I gave it a chance.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] bassgenerator:
ARD4 European Exynos:svetius:

At any time from my setup 8 hours SOT
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
I used NONE bcoz there is NONE. U repetitively used "many" here and there and failed to link up a single one(where it can prove your "many") and even after that, using the same word. Contradiction u say :laugh:

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Bixby very useful? Tell me one instance u found it to be very useful. I understand u r using this garbage for the first time and experimenting, so won't stop u there., keep experimenting.;)

... A note: I rofl'ed at bixby vision recently, it fails to recognize the very basic stuff I use daily, have a look.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Dude.. . I know how u r getting good batterylife as u already mentioned earlier what all things u did to get it. Thanks for the post though. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] bassgenerator:
Yes. Just now I try all the time to have mobile data turned on and no wifi.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
I have been running with this option disabled for weeks and so gar no problems at all.

;)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
The fact you didn't even acknowledge your contradiction is quite telling.

Bixby is faster for many things than doing it manually like setting an alarm to go off in a specified time. For example, to set an alarm to go off in 1 hour, you just have to say: Wake me in 1 hour. To check the weather in a specific place, you just ask it rather than tapping here and there. There are many other examples of its use and it's actually very good at setting commands with multiple actions etc. But then I don't expect you to believe me in this either since I'm not linking anything hehe. But seriously, there are plenty of posts and videos out there demonstrating how useful Bixby can be.

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Are you finding battery life even better with the ARD4 update? I'm feeling like it's better here although it's only one cycle. Getting close to 7 hours SOT this time with about 18 hours on battery. Was only roaming LTE for a few hours this time though and Wi-Fi for the rest (both are enabled but obviously only one is in use at a time). Quite impressive considering none of that SOT was doing stuff like video watching. Oh and I'm using Bixby too hehe.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
Yes, I find better battery with ARD4, sometimes I can get more than 3 hours SOT and still be around 60%. Also standby time improved a little bit as well.

:)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
I acknowledged several times that the Exynos s9 duos fail in battery-performance-heat management with top notch lab testers' in-depth lab tests that u could not understand in the past. In addition, posted my my real world proofs in few posts in this thread itself and in other xda forums.

Other than your false claims of having many, many, many and many links that practically do not exist anywhere but in your brain, u failed miserably to prove anything. With zero proof, blabbering and misconceptions it's you contradicted all the way.

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Those 2 Bixby examples YOU MENTIONED are far better done by Google assistant. (try it out;)

Now I'll tell you this : AI assistated commands, natural language understanding, commands executions at core level within Samsung environment , app integration etc. are being expected out of Bixby to be executed as "extra" in comparisons to other assistants, but so far it's been a poor man's show as it fails to execute them properly in the first place and hence that extra hasnt been anything useful:laugh: let alone not even understanding basic country specific English accents that all other assistants do.

Worth noting that with the recent Google I/O announcing the advancements of AI - counting from developing, adapting and adopting new natural voices, complex queries of multiple actions to be performed at a single instance, kids "please" & "thanks" mode integration to mimic a human being (you, if u r the user) to have a kind of "real conversation" with the other person in the other end, Google voice is way way way more advanced than this poor Bixby..... In such an era, I find Bixby sh*t - a sh*t. It's no way justified to have a poor buggy duplicate assistant that eats up battery, doesn't function properly and takes up resources within the OS plaguing the smartphone itself.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
No matter how many times you try, you still contradicted yourself. And it's not the first time too - you did it with that thing related to snapdragon. And again, you're bordering on the use of ad hominem attacks again, which is always a sign of a losing argument.

As of now, Bixby is there to complement Google Assistant and I find it great (you can watch a video I think by sakitech to see more details of this) - it understands what I say almost 100% of the time so I don't have any problems with that. Sure there're lots of overlap, but I'm finding Bixby useful for times when I need to operate the phone hands-free too. One YouTube comment summed it up nicely:

Bixby: commands and navigation

Google assistant: Web searching and information

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Nice, but I'm always skeptical with any apparent immediate improvements observed after an update - when did you receive that update? I only just got it, so I'll see if this improvement is actually a placebo or if it's real!
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
Like 2-3 days ago.

:)

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I'm not getting butthurt, but clearly you are when you write with so much frustration and anger.

You come here and cry because the S9+ doesn't behave like "OTHER FLAGSHIPS", but why does it have to?, just because you say it?, why you are expecting that a Samsung phone behaves like a Google or Oneplus phone?; different brands, different features and different configurations. From this point, your whole argumentation is wrong. Is like if I complain about an Apple computer doesn't behave the same like a Linux one; that's how stupid it sounds when you write and compare different things.

I just feel pity for you and your case, and moreover, you are not looking for solutions, but you are looking for conflict here. You are just wasting our time and messing up with the nice ambient we used to have here.

You are the classical Joe that complaints for everything, and when someone else offers a solution or workaround, they don't accept it and then just keep complaining. This is only a reflection of who you are in life and the kind of attitudes you have towards it. You like the conflict and dissension, but not only that, you don't listen to others and the only valid arguments are the ones you bring to the table, because you think you are the smartest guy around here and everyone else is lying or they don't know what they are talking about.

I will ignore your posts from now on (as you recommended), because probably you will answer this post full of hate and brainlessness (as you always do), with a lot of technical and empty data for you to feel better and prove to the world that you are right and everything else is wrong.

You are wrong from the moment you think you are right and you close your mind to other possibilities and opinions, no matter how good you believe you are in prove it otherwise.

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[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
No matter how many times proven otherwise, some people are adamant like children. Sun rises in the west and pigs fly in the sky-according to them.

You couldn't show a single proof to backup your false claims and then thinking I'm losing..?, it's so clearly seen who lost miserably in the past and present with every loose argument.

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.. Bixby is trained with US English and native Korean only so far. Anything different is a problem for Bixby to understand. For example Google assistant understand my accent completely due to native accent support but Bixby fails here and there.

.. Bixby is just a parasitic duplicate app for already hugely popular and fluent Google assistant that understands several languages and accents.

.. In Google's version of android, Samsung never required to forcefully implement a sub-par assistant when Google assistant was already there, unlike Apple's siri in their own iOS.

.. Bixby vision is a joke, I've shown you proof in my earlier post.

This list goes on. But still BIXBY IS SUPERIOR to you because you bought your beloved s9 plus. Hehe

As I told you earlier, you are a rare human being who likes an epic fail like Bixby over Google assistant and thinks the former is better when Google assistant is just far far ahead of Bixby at any point of time. Try putting legit arguments, but I understand u have none.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] varun.gid:
guys can you please taking this on personal messages?? This is all so unnecessary .
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
It's you all the time responding to my messages whenever I criticize the s9 plus which is what I'll do whenever I want at any moment and time irrespective of whether any1 including you likes it or not. U can always select the "exit" door for yourself whenever u end up seeing, reading my msgs and then end up getting hurt and fail to face consequences. I'm owning the s9 plus and then criticizing it where its going wrong. And as such, do you think I'm getting butthurts here??:laugh: Butthurts are getting irritated & becoming sentimental whenever I'm saying against the s9 plus - due to pain ;), not me. Hehe.

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What a screwed up and lame way of thinking. I pity you right there. Different brand, different configuration, different features and then trying to imitate like a standalone echosystem by providing duplicate email clients, duplicate galleries, duplicate file managers, duplicate appstore, duplicate cloudstorage, duplicate assistant, duplicate... affecting performance, fluidity, batterylife and more confusions than doing any help ........Rest of the android OEMs stay as close as Google's echosystem even with their own skins applied and there is nothing like samsung echosystem to defend. Educate yourself before trying to teach others.

Who told u I'm looking for solutions here in this forum? That too from someone like you? LOL. like disabling every feature of the s9 plus that Samsung is so proud of in the marketing, and then keeping aod off, Bixby off, uninstall all social media stuff, using them in a browser, implementing dark themes, disabling android systems activity and thinking its helping batterylife without hampering the android functionalities :mad:, using a single sim version and then posting SOTs and rejoicing that it's having fantastic batterylife.:laugh:

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Ofcourse smarter than you as I have never been a fanboy to any brand or gadget like you and have a privilege of using several gadgets at a time to play around with, professionally.

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LOL, just speak for yourself. It's you and just another guy from the very begenning in pain, not anyone else. What I see is - the ambient weather being polluted by your misleading and incorrect informations regarding the s9 plus from the very begenning . It's xda, not your beloved personal honeymoon suite.

Correct, thats what I am. Not a fanboy by any means though.

Do at the earliest, u failed so far and I'm counting on it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] itstock:
My old gs8 + and note 8 both have significantly higher battery performance. Samsung gone mad.:p

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Mine goes flat in 13 hrs wid mod use. Replaced it after 3 weeks and it's no different
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Yes it's getting really sad. At first I thought he was trying to be constructive in a rather inflammatory way (got nothing against that hehe), but then he goes on a rage about Bixby and appears to try to "prove" that what I'm feeling is wrong - almost to the point of telling/forcing me what I should feel and think. I think that is very insulting. As I said, I'm just grateful I don't have such apparent rage and unhappiness about a device. At the same time, I've observed some flaws with the S9+ (black crush, image retention etc - you can find my posts in other threads even on this forum) - I'm constructively critical and honest and I don't need someone attempting to force me what to feel and think! Anyway, it's all fun times and hope you can take all of it with a grain of salt etc. I really value your input and polite way of writing.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] itstock:
I too easily get 7 hours of screen on time wid gn8 and gs8+. A known store person hinted me b4 buying as several customers complained.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] itstock:
Totally agree with you. Bixby is such a crap. And Vision needs cataract operation asap.:D
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] gekko300:
I get around 8 hours SOT on my S9+. Stock ROM, auto brightness enabled and Bixby+AOD disabled.

That's more than twice what I got on my old S6, so I'm happy. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] itstock:
Android system ain't screwing in mine and like 8-15 % max but overall poor battery.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] chickenbb:
I factory reset my phone a week ago and I get good to great battery life now. I'm on the exynos version. The screenshot does not show it but I used the pdf viewer for around 3 hours for studying.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] INFERNO997:
I started a petition, If you want, sign in.

https://www.change.org/p/samsung-s9...m_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] itstock:
Galaxy S8 + and note 8 were fairer than this.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] denzel09:
I think you have a faulty phone or more probably some draining app like Telegram X version or similar.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] itstock:
I fail to agree here as no telegram or such battery draining apps in my unit and most of d radios + sync off. Carrier sent replacement that did not help. A quick google search revealed it's an issue widely spread.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] INFERNO997:
I did 3 hard resets and no change, also I am software developer and I understand what is going on. The processor is just giving more power that is not needed. Simply .. the phone is not optimized and Samsung is playing with us, because they use fu**ing official rom to experiment with kernel and that is not fair for a 900$ phone. And other have this problem and it is widespread problem, this is software fault and mainly Samsung is to blame for that.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Just wanted to post an example of the low standby/idle drain of this phone - see attached below. The SOT of over 3 hours is quite impressive to me, considering the amount of battery AOD used here. I also performed some quite heavy tasks here - almost an hour of High accuracy GPS navigation (with bluetooth connected to the car and music playing at the same time), and also about 15 minutes of high intensity gaming (which I think nearly maxed out the processor for this entire 15 minutes). Wi-Fi, LTE and Bluetooth were all enabled and ready to go the entire period, although the time LTE was actually active was probably only 4-5 hours (as I was on Wi-Fi for the majority of this period).

It's interesting seeing others post quite bad SOT despite having AOD disabled. If you extrapolate my data above, I think I should be able to hit 4-5 hours SOT over 2-3 days if I had AOD disabled. As I've said in a different thread, for those posting relatively bad SOTs, I think a lot of cases are due to excessive standby drain.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Exactly. S9 plus exynos is one of the worst performers in recent times in batterylife.

Appreciate that you created a petition. But will ever Samsung "listen"? Not sure.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
Then as a software developer you should understand that every user and usage are different, and even when there are people with battery problems, also there are people with pretty decent battery, by also mentioning that both Snapdragon and Exynos have both cases. Also mobile signal impacts directly on the battery.

No one is experimenting with us, but is just a matter of configuration.

:highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Sabertooth:
When done wrong, higher performance hurts power efficiency. Problem is with the Exynos 9810 cpu badly tuned at kernel level.

https://www.imore.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-battery-life-problems-and-what-it-means-apple
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ventolino:
I have the s9+ with exynos and a great battery life.

After the last firmware upgrade I'm around 30/35 hours of use with 10 SOT, with social, push mails, internet.

I'm really satisfied with this battery.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Exactly. And yet you get people saying/implying that with tasks like video watching and messaging people, they are only getting 4-5 hours SOT. I struggle to understand why there are such big discrepancies in battery reports.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
10 hours of SOT with 30,35 hrs of runtime is unrealistic unless you heavily tweak the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
For those not happy with their SOT, can they also please post their standby (or overnight) drain? And mention if it's with AOD enabled and in use or not.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
For sure. Also, if we take things by "feel", I feel like there're actually less people complaining about battery life on some forums like androidcentral compared to the S7/S7 edge (and this phone was almost universally touted as having excellent battery life even by those so-called experts). The S9+ battery life isn't the bad aspect of it - I think the "black crush" is a much bigger deal for many people - way more reports of people returning their phones due to this than bad battery life. Also the temporary image retention isn't a good look either. But as I said, there's no such thing as the perfect phone, especially one with so many features.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] bassgenerator:
All that cry over battery life will resolve the Package Disabler Pro. Exactly as for me. 2 months I have no worse SOT than 7 or 8 hours. In the night lost 2 percent of battery in 8 hours.

Karma is free.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Or perhaps buy the snapdragon version instead and tweak nothing.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] bassgenerator:
I don't need to buy any Snapdragon. it is enough one click in the app and done the friend. I won't think yet in Slovakia buy SD for America.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Just curious, what is your bxActions mapped to? I notice it showed up in your battery drain there hehe.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] bassgenerator:
silent profile vibrate: ON/OFF, flashlight , screenshoot, google now
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] ssj100:
Interesting. Anyway, here's a screenshot below of what was initially light usage, and then moderate to heavy usage (stuff like "mira-casting" phone to TV). You can see that AOD sucks a lot of battery especially over long periods. I don't have any tweaks like Package Disabler, as I don't need more battery life (I always charge my phone overnight, but because I'm wanting to post some screenshots of battery life, I haven't done so for the last few days).

(Again, everything was enabled for the entire period as usual - Wi-Fi, LTE, Bluetooth etc)
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Real Life Review] Virgo_Guy:
Latin America, United States, Japan, China, Hongkong etc. have the snapdragon versions. Rest have the Exynos.

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But as per the usage graph on screenshot u r sharing, u barely used the phone for first 15 hours or so.