yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] caleb16:
Usually the first time it takes a while on initializing but after that instantly
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Vcek:
Try the G892U rom instead of the G892A
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] mmarsie:
Error flashing part 1 of v3. any help?

<ID:0/005> Removed!!

<ID:0/005> Added!!

<OSM> Enter CS for MD5..

<OSM> Check MD5.. Do not unplug the cable..

<OSM> Please wait..

<OSM> Checking MD5 finished Sucessfully..

<OSM> Leave CS..

<ID:0/005> Odin engine v(ID:3.1203)..

<ID:0/005> File analysis..

<ID:0/005> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/005> Initialzation..

<ID:0/005> Erase...

<ID:0/005> Complete(Write) operation failed.

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

<ID:0/005> Removed!!

galaxy s8 active
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
Please remove the op from your quote. Did it write the rom like it was supposed to? Did you use the modded odin? Usb 2.0? Did it write the whole file then fail? Did you use the U version everyones been getting to work?

We need a bit more information. As a fail is to be expected when this works as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] mmarsie:
there was no change on the screen of my device throughout the entire process leading up to the error so its hard for me to say, i would think none of it was written at all as the device will just boot back to stock when rebooted. Definitely used the modded odin however im not sure if its the same version OP linked as that link was dead for me
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
Their are guys saying use the U Rom not A. As well as you can Google Comsey odin. Or the modded 3.13.1 I think

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Also try flashing the bootloader first
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] mmarsie:
Downloading the U version now, gonna give that a shot. then i'll try the A again in the reverse order. i would imagine the steps remain the same doing the BL first?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
Start reading around post 500 and on and a lot of guys had success from there

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I on 950u would flash bl then ap then bl again
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] eliasdeejay:
Hi is it possible to install normal s8's safestrap on an active s8?

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Hi is it possible to install normal s8's safestrap on an active s8?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] cromagnon17:
Galileo satellites

Can someone using this ROM tell me if they can see Galileo satellites using the program GPSTest by barbeaudev ? On updated Oreo variant At&T all I can see is GPS and Glonass (see screenshot attached). Not even Beidou, which would improve the positioning further.

The screens should look something like :

[IMG="GPSTest with Galileo"]https://12727424133807359040.googlegroups.com/attach/a023797f24041/GPS_Galileo.png?part=0.1&view=1&vt=ANaJVrFKkQmy7CZ7p09uaI4g7hvEY4AqXD6ydigd0uIr-dEGD15HQ76LKFKYubzXXUsKi6cDPx178q1nSWnCUuQoDXOomShSdaGYuaEl2ORHrkkyra-rnts[/IMG]

with Galileo satellites marked with the blue flag of European Union
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] BuddhaTeh1337:
i have an ATT s8 active using a usb 2.o port and am getting the following errors. tried switching USB ports after first failure and it becomes com6. attempting to flash AP_PCR_G892A_BLV3.part1.tar.md5

also after rebooting, receive error message

currently attempting to download G892U files and try those after reading back a few pages.

update: still no luck. looking to flash back to stock if anyone has the proper files. till then im soft bricked and only able to enter download mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TerminallyiLL:
It Finally Broke

I don't know what happened, but it's so stupid fast now I think it's broken

This can't be normal...
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
That's about my internet speeds.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] BuddhaTeh1337:
any support would be greatly appreciated. my phone is still bricked. :(
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TerminallyiLL:
This is what I get.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] cromagnon17:
Thank you, not a good result for me :( if Galileo was seen, that was a reason to flash this ROM

Yet I wonder, with root access if a file can be edited to activate this constellation. Beidou would be nice too, the signal is pretty strong from what I've seen.

People are talking about editing some file /vendor/etc/gps.xml but I looked in a few images and I could not find such file ...
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TerminallyiLL:
I'd be willing to try the modded .xml file, but I'd need to look to see that it wouldn't interfere with my GPS signal. My old lady has to be able to track me! Couldn't you run it on Android Studio with the modded .xml and have it use your phones GPS Sensor? The emulator seems to really put out accurate data on my computer running Ubuntu, Kubuntu Linux. If we discuss it anymore here, we're probably going to get moved to another thread. Message me on Telegram if you want me to help you out [MENTION=599615]nun[/MENTION]FUX or email terminally-ill@gmx.com. That goes for you guys trying to get G892A rooted. Rooted one... RIP, and got another one, rooted it too, using this process, and didn't have any issues. Hurry up and you can beat the AT&T Pie update!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] BuddhaTeh1337:
can i get this link as well please?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TerminallyiLL:
I don't have that phone anymore. I'm on my second 892A, but I'll see if that's Drive link is still up.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] BuddhaTeh1337:
i tried flashing this BL first as well and get

not sure what the issue is there. i did not have repartition selected.

also the phone still says security check fail: PIT on the screen after the attempt.

much appreciated. i bought another one yesterday myself to run stock firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
Start at either post 450 or 550 and read from there user report a fix in there somewhere
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] BuddhaTeh1337:
is this post the one you are talking about? the link he provided no longer works.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Vcek:
Anyone who got Security check:PIT fail error, try resetting factory default from phone settings before rooting. (FRP/Reactivation locks could interfer in re-partitioning)

I will try later, but using it as daily driver and I need my phone data at work.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] eliasdeejay:
Amplify

I want to use amplify but i don't have guide what to limit. Help please
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] bradical711:
There is no guide on what to limit. Most of the time you don't even need to limit anything. Especially with this ROM, the battery life is amazing by default. If anything, all that matters is that you have a clean app portfolio and the settings/services you use. If you happen to use a lot a social media apps for instance, battery life wouldn't be so great but in my case (YMMV) I can easily get about 9 hours of SOT and 2 days standby. I can't tell you what to limit and what will work for you. Just use BBS, test things and do your research. You will learn but it will take time, a lot of the time you won't need apps like amplify... Just do some more research on XDA.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] timfox89:
Hi, my phone is version: G892AUCU4BSC1 will it be possible to root? This seems to be boot loader version 4 if I've been reading correctly. Will it be possible to root using the files here for version 3 maybe?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] robnitro:
I have v4 too.

I don't think you can root v4 until they crack the bootloader, because you can't roll back. If you have v4 you can't use v3 and below. If you have v3 you cant use below that, and so on. It's similar to LG anti rollback mechanism which I had to deal with before.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
Exactly correct. Issue is rev 3 was hard enough to crack. So for 4 to be cracked at minimum a bit 4 combination file will be needed
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] timfox89:
Figured that, but thought it was worth a shot asking. Sounds pretty tough, I'm a programmer but never tried to crack a bootloader....
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
You get the boot img from the combo which we use for rooting. And then flash a su injected sys img

But newer revisions blocked some of the flashing and s8 and plus we have a method of a sued combo firmware where we can then flash the rooted nougat. We have to have the boot img from the combo though since ots permissive
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] robnitro:
Just got an update notice for patch level May 1, 2019

G892USQS5BSE4/G892UOYN5BSE4

I assume that would change me to v5 (5th digit from the left)? If so, I'll wait
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] fender23:
I need help on trying to get my s8 out of a boot loop. I have tried Cromsy, 1.13 patched, and even flashing back to stock with regular Odin, and nothing has helped. It goes to installing system update and says no action instead of displaying the att logo. I have tried 6 different firmwares and nothing will actually write to the phone.

<ID:0/003> Added!!

<ID:0/003> Odin engine v(ID:3.1203)..

<ID:0/003> File analysis..

<ID:0/003> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/003> Initialzation..

<ID:0/003>

<ID:0/003> FAIL! (DeviceInfo)

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

<ID:0/003> Removed!!

My bootloader version is v3, and I am pretty desperate for any help right now. Please reply if you need any info. Thx.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] DaveGIGGITYGOO:
So I have the G892A Att model I first flash on AP V1 or V2. I downloaded V3 BL but it does not appear as an available file when going to select it on BL on Odin Im using the 3.12 odin version please help
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] adzify106:
I'm having issues with stock AT&T firmware, my phone can't use Carrier Aggregation overseas and is making my LTE download speeds very slow. Would flashing with PCR fix that? Or would it allow me to flash with a different CSC that would enable my local carrier settings? My carrier supports CA, VoLTE & VoWifi but the stock ATT CSC is not working, my carrier CSC is TEL or XSA.

I'm on G892AUCU3BRL1 so not sure if I can go to custom ROM from there.

[MENTION=5759239]TheMadScientist[/MENTION] or [MENTION=8360749]partcyborg[/MENTION] any ideas?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
I'm not sure on that one. I barely got my own volte vowifi working. I've seen us models with other cscs from other countries work but I don't know how they've did it
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] ComputerVllahia:
Hey guys,

i still get an fail like this:

<ID:0/006> Added!!

<OSM> Enter CS for MD5..

<OSM> Check MD5.. Do not unplug the cable..

<OSM> Please wait..

<OSM> Checking MD5 finished Sucessfully..

<OSM> Leave CS..

<ID:0/006> Odin engine v(ID:3.1203)..

<ID:0/006> File analysis..

<ID:0/006> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/006> Initialzation..

<ID:0/006> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/006> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/006> SingleDownload.

<ID:0/006> system.img.ext4

<ID:0/006> FAIL!

<ID:0/006>

<ID:0/006> Complete(Write) operation failed.

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

Then I've tried to flash the BL first. Then I tried an different Odin ( the 13.1B Patched One). But everywhere i get an error like the above one. When I try to flash the BL first, it says:

<ID:0/006> Set PIT file..

<ID:0/006> DO NOT TURN OFF TARGET!!

<ID:0/006> FAIL!

Now it keeps booting into recovery. I dont know what to do. I was von V3 official.

I would be happy about every advice. The Link from the chinese guy is broken...

Thanks!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] adzify106:
[MENTION=5759239]TheMadScientist[/MENTION] & [MENTION=8360749]partcyborg[/MENTION]

Well I bit the bullet and tried to flash the PCR G892A V3. The BL>AP>BL flash option would not work kept getting PIT errors for the BL file, is OEM Unlock in Developer Settings required to make this work or is it irrelevant?

I found this post and link to a different V3 BL: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=78765301&postcount=471

That BL file flashed successfully and then PCR AP flashed successfully and I have root but the CSC is STILL showing as ATT and still no OEM Unlock option in Developer settings... I thought PC had changed CSC to OYN as per notes? I feel if the CSC is still showing as ATT then the PCR has not flashed correctly?

EDIT: Just did a check and version info shows

AP: G892AUCS2ARA1

CP: G892AUCS3ARG1

CSC: G8982AATT2ARA1
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] ComputerVllahia:
Do you still have the file on your PC? The link is broken. So you could reupload it for other users. This would be awesome :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
It changed your model to a u or should have I thought but is att active csc. This device was always weird. Also these device do not have oem unlock. The CSC can be manually flashed if you have a copy of it
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] adzify106:
The link is not broken, works fine that's how I downloaded it: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UfVUgNdyDYvVMfe5C6K6qLjECmyNNHV8

But beware! Read below, I don't think it is working well as this is not [MENTION=8360749]partcyborg[/MENTION] V3 BL and I am finding a few bugs with mine after flashing. I got the exact same error as you reported with PCR V3 BL Part2.

-Well if it doesn't have OEM unlock I guess that is a good thing?

-Are you saying if it flashes correctly the model should change from G892A to G892U?

A few notes after my hybrid flash using "BL3_G892A_root" & "PCR G892A V3 AP Part1" files:

I'm getting "Xposed has stopped unexpectedly" often, the Touchscreen is laggy when using pinch and zoom, no Youtube installed, duplicate phone and contacts icons and I'm also randomly getting a greenish screen that flickers after unlock - but if I lock the screen and unlock it goes away. All of these things make me think it has not taken the flash well and the fact it is not using PCR BL Part2 might be contributing.

I'm also confused how the AP & Modem can be on different BL versions?

AP: G892AUCS2ARA1

CP: G892AUCS3ARG1

CSC: G8982AATT2ARA1

There are a few ways to change the CSC, I was hoping to try the PCR's stock OYN that PC included, if this didn't fix my Carrier issues then I will try some root features to manually flash or modify - no point unless I can get rid of ATT CSC first. I might try reflashing from within the phone OS as PC suggested previously he suggested Odin might be causing flashing issues - I'm hoping that helps iron out those bugs and put the OYN CSC code as it is still installing all the ATT bloat. I might try the G892U BL V3 file unless anyone else has any ideas?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
No the CSC should base itself off the sim Inserted or at least does on reg s8. I never had this device I just know how the method works and such
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] mekkelrichards:
Hello all,

I recently purchased a Galaxy S8 Active (AT&T). It was on a stock firmware out of the box. I this ROM, and I attempted to install it. I must have done something incorrectly, because the phone would no longer boot. I researched how to use Odin to flash the phone back to the stock firmware but was not able to complete that process.

This is what my phone shows during the download mode flashing process: https://imgur.com/BjhUoXb

- If you look at the last line, it says: "SW REV CHECK FAIL : [abl]Fused 4 > Binary 3"

This is the message that Odin fails on each time when flashing the stock firmware: "abl.elf, FAIL! (Auth)"

How I can get this phone back to stock firmware?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] partcyborg:
You are not running a compatible bootloader version as mentioned in the op. To get back to stock you just have to download and flash stock firmware using Odin.

You are getting that error for the same reason the ROM won't work for you, you are trying to flash firmware at bootloader version 3 when your device already has 4, and you can not downgrade bootloader versions. If you attempt to flash firmware with version 4, it will work just fine
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] mekkelrichards:
Thank you. I believe I understand now.

Do you know where to find the BL v4 firmware?

I've scoured the web.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Vcek:
Its available online for $3, if you want ill pm you the link.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] mekkelrichards:
PM me. I'd pay that.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Vcek:
Scroll down and choose G892AUCU4... This should fix everything for you after you flash it unless you have a more recent version then you'd be stuck until a newer version is released.

Please note I'm not affiliated with that website, but i vouch for it. you will get link emailed to you within minutes after purchasing.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] partcyborg:
If you send me that firmware I can post a v4 package with the right set of images to support v4 provided they didn't patch it
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] mekkelrichards:
Just PM'd you with a link to it. Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Victel:
Hello, I downloaded the PCRG892ABLV3 file with odin v3.12.

My model is SM-G892

A baseband is G892AUCU4BSC1

Android version 8.0.0

The files are compatible with my phone, right?

Okay I tried it. It failed and I can't get back to download mode and my phone won't turn on, it just freezes at the AT&T symbol and hangs there. Whenever I try to re-enter download mode I get the message saying "An error has occurred while updating the device software. Use the emergency recovery option." I don't know how to get back to the download page so I can re-flash the firmware and I can't even shut off my phone. Whenever I try and hold the power button down the screen just blinks and stays on the error screen. I'm guessing my usb 3.0 caused the crash. I used AP_PCR_G892A_BLV3.part1.tar with the Odin from the description.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Vcek:
You are on Blv4 and you flashed v3, probably failed to flash and lost some partitions. To fix this download the full firmware G892AUCU4BSC1
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Victel:
[MENTION=4234157]Vcek[/MENTION] thanks for the reply. That's good to know but where do I find this full firmware. The issue I'm having is getting back into download mode. I start the phone and volume up to get into download mode and I get the error message saying "An error has occurred while updating the device software. Use the emergency recovery option." I'm sorry i'm not very experienced with rooting
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] mekkelrichards:
I can send you it for $2. I paid $3 for it. It's only available online for $3 and up.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Victel:
I will get it myself, where do I find it. What is the site where i find this firmware, thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] chutun:
sm-g892a fw V4

G892AUCU4BSC1

https://yadi.sk/d/O2Iv_2T51gABBg
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Victel:
that looks perfect except I still can't get into Download mode to apply that
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
If you get the software error screen when booting to download mode. You can still flash with Odin from that screen. It's more of a scare to take it to the store. It is a modified version of download mode that is still functional
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Vcek:
Hold power and vol- to reboot, it wont flash after a failed attempt until you reboot
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Victel:
Sounds perfect, i will try this. I'm guessing cyborg is setting it up with the firmware linked on the last page?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
As far as I know he's moved on from these devices. I may be wrong
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Victel:
So what do I do? Flash the file chutun uploaded?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
If its a revision 4 you can.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Victel:
How do I know? I'm sorry I'm new to this stuff
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] partcyborg:
Cool thanks, now if someone has a link to the v4 combo firmware we will be in business
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] partcyborg:
Read the first post again. I wrote detailed instructions with examples on how to do this

Whoops, I thought I had put the instructions here but I actually never did they were just on my 950U and 955U threads.

Sorry about that! I just copied them over and updated them a little. Let me know if any of it doesn't make sense.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheMadScientist:
5th digit from far end in firmware. I stand corrected. I though he moved on if just wait for him
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Victel:
Sounds good. I guess I just wait for an update for V4 to come up?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Victel:
Any progress? I have no phone and I'm going to need to take this one back if I can't fix it? Should I be waiting on a V4 or trying something else? I attempted to flash this AP_G892AUCU4BSC1 firmware and had no luck
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] chutun:
Flash

You must flash all of AP BL CP CSC
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Victel:
So I don't break my phone further, what is the process I follow for flashing them all?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Vcek:
Select all the 4 files into their respective slots in odin before connecting your phone.

Also if you get any errors in odin, you might want to share the errors in details so we can help diagnose what's going wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] adzify106:
Strange as I have a Telstra Sim (Australia's biggest Mobile Carrier) inserted and it has still loaded an ATT CSC and therefore configured all the menu's and settings with AT&T bloat even though I've flashed the PCRom.

Has anyone with a G892A and PCRom managed to get a CSC other than ATT? In [MENTION=8360749]partcyborg[/MENTION] first post it says 'CSC OYN' pre-installed so I'm curious to see if others have this. I'm wondering if I have missed a step somewhere in order for PCRom's OYN CSC to overwrite the existing ATT CSC?

I was hoping having Root with PCRom that I might be able to flash a G950U XSA or TEL CSC to get my local carrier settings active (especially Carrier Aggregation) but have not had much luck.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Victel:
I have an active-G892AUCU4BSC1 zip file here that I'm not sure about. Do I flash the AP BL CSC and CP and will this root my device or just get it running again?