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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Make sure you use the settings database editor app to set Google as the default assistant app and voice recognition service.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] panni:
I did. I went by the book (your tutorial and article). As I said, everything including Assistant works, I just can't activate Voice Match.

Edit: I tried it again, only using the versions listed in your article, as well as the old Google app - now the Google app complains that I should update the Play Services and under "Voice" "OK Google" is greyed out and says "Retrieving settings" (translated).

Edit 2: I let it update the Play Services, now "OK Google" is simply greyed out.

Edit 3: Now I let it update the Google app, which changes the "OK Google" references to "Voice Match" - when enabling Voice Match I get the blank screen followed by a connection error.

Edit 4: Google Assistant has installed itself, when I start it an activate Voice Match in the setup process, the same blank screen with the connection error appears.

May this be related to the Show Mode introduced recently?

Edit 5: GOT IT WORKING! I had to add English (US) to my languages in the Google app and set it as default. Before only German was listed there. (This is not in your updated guide btw)

OK, now I have to figure out how to use the Google voice command with a docked/loading device.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] crashnburnMDA:
So changing this FLAG/ Setting allows you to switch between HANDSFREE access to "Ok Google" and "Alexa" key words?

Could we do this via? :

- Some UI Button to trigger the SWITCH between G & A - Some App/ Script? - To start off.. without having to change "code/ text" allowing anyone non techie to do it.

- Could it be done using Voice Commands from G > A and A to G?

Which is why I'd like to have EASIER Switching. Alex is more task oriented while Google Asst is more Natural Language friendly.

Interesting approach with Nova.

Wondering whats the updated word?

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What DEAL was this? Can you please Link/ Share when / how you got for 20$? I see them now for 49.99.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] zeroday0:
i can not use Add new setting on app Settings Database Editor. anyone help me!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] panni:
No, keeping Alexa enabled results in both assistants working at the same time, at least for me, on Fire HD 10 with Show Mode, 5.3.6.4.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] crashnburnMDA:
Seriously? This would be great. I'd love that.

- How did you make than happen?

- Does it/ Can it do the same without ShowMode i.e. not on the ShowMode stand but lying down somewhere YET LISTENING for ALEXA or OK GOOGLE?

Can anyone else corroborate on a similar experience?

Can the same be done on HD 8 tablet? (I am wondering if it has Show mode?)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] panni:
I don't know whether it can be done on a HD 8. I listed some of the details here.

Although while being stable at first, Google seems to lose its ability to react to OK Google over time and needs to be reset, at least for me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] crashnburnMDA:
1 - I am surprised no one else has jumped on this to try it out and give more test results.

2 - How much time to lose ability/ how often the RESET?

3 - Process of RESET?

4 - I honestly would not mind switching between, ideally via Voice but if both can work together - brilliant.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
The Google app latest update isn't working for the assistant. It won't recognize voices, and voice match doesn't even hear anything. The last version I know worked really amazingly, was 8.33 beta. Remember to have Nova launcher turned on in accessibility services too.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] panni:
Oh? Interesting. I've been using 8.13.12.21 and it loses the OK Google keyword detection over time, if it activates at all in the first place. I'll try 8.33 beta. Do you happen to have a link?

8.33.6 beta? or .5? There's also a .8 out there.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] panni:
OK, this is a semi-guide now and it uses 8.33.6 beta, which seems to work well.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] crashnburnMDA:
Hope that some shares their experience of testing on HD 8

Which device did you test this on?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Both the 10 and 8. 8 was a while ago.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] redhonker:
2017 Fire HD 10

5.6.3.0, rooted

Google Play Store installed

Google App 8.59.7.21

Google Assistant 0.1.187945513

I was hoping there is an easier way to do it on a rooted tablet with Activity Manager. But nothing appears in the settings.

I have followed the steps. Notes

0. Before the steps, Google Assistant will ask me to change setting to make it default but there is no place to do that.

1. There is no entry for voice_interaction_service. I typed the script to add one

2. I'd think a script will work to add assistant (just like 1) but I used the SetEdit

3. My alexa_enabled is 0 so I did not do anything

4. After reboot, Google App. > Tap More at bottom right corner > Settings > Voice > Voice Match -> Access with Voice Match. Switch it on, press "I AGREE". It asked me to say OK Google it can't never hear me. I know the mic is working because I can say thing to Google App

5. I cancelled and tried to start Assistant from launcher. After I tap "I AGREE", it's just hour glass.

6. Reboot. I have pattern unlock enabled. Not it goes into the cycle of wall paper and black. I have adb enable amazon.alexa.tablet to get back unlock screen. So somehow the steps above caused it to be disabled.

7. Clear data for Google and Assistant. Retry. A bit worse and it hangs after I tap Access with Voice Match (before "I AGREE")

So I can't seem to get Voice Match working. Any suggestion?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Downgrade to Google app 8.33.X. any of the beta 8.33 should work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] redhonker:
Which version are you using?

I downloaded Google App 8.33.6.21 (arm64-v8a + arm-v7a) (nodpi) (Android 5.0+). I had to uninstall the latest and then install this version. Upon reboot, it says Google is not the default assistant. In SetEdit, voice_interaction_service entry disappeared. I reset it and reboot. Again I got the background/black cycle and had to adb enable amazon.alexa.tablet.

But then it's the same problem -- it can hear me. :(

Side question: do you have a tweak so that it will show the owner information on the lock screen?

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
You just want the 'arm' version, no dpi, android 5.0+.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] redhonker:
I downloaded the version "arm64-v8a + armeabi-v7a" for 5.0, no dpi.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
This one

Google App 8.33.6.21 (arm-v7a) (nodpi) (Android 5.0+) https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...oogle-app-8-33-6-21-arm-android-apk-download/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] redhonker:
Yeah, that worked. Hope it stays. Still suffering from the unable-to-logon problem sometimes.

Now if I can get the wallpaper to stick....

Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
What version of fireOS?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] redhonker:
5.6.3.0
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
May have been patched then. Let me know what you come up with, if anything.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] mateoeyoo:
confirming this works with the edit from OP on 12/8 fixed the issue where google assistant doesn't respond to voice setup.

device: fire hd 10 OS 5.3.6.4
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Jcursiolf:
Quick question: does this enable Assistant on any language or just English?

Note: this is a gift for my mother, so it doesn't really matter if the the assistant is Alexa, Cortana, Google or whatever. The point is that it must speak Portuguese and Alexa doesn't.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
I've only tried English. It has limited support for other languages so you would need to play around with it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] gdroid666:
"If you are using Alexa, you will Have to disable it and install the latest version of the Google App located at this link. Make sure to also have Google Play Services installed."

what exactly do you mean by this?

do you mean just switch off hands free alexa in the fire OS quick settings menu? or is there some other more detailed procedure that you didn't link to?

and if it is as simple as switching it off in the quick settings menu before you install theGA then after you get GA installed can you just switch alexa back on in the quick settings and have bot assistants working simultaneously on the same device? will alexa still work at all after? or is it like GA only works when you switch alexa off in quick settings menu ,but switching alexa on in quick settings will enable alexa but disable GA ? also does it work on fire HD 8 8th gen latest OS version?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Nightmare-Rex420:
will the google assistant and alexa talk to eatchother on the tablets or is them communicating with eachother only for actual home and echo? thats ofcourse with them installed on diffrent tablet? i assume not when on same tablet but that would be intresting if they did.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
I don't think they both work at the same time. Then again no one has said anything otherwise.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] crashnburnMDA:
This method seems to say both work at the same time.

https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/help/digital-assistants-alexa-dock-google-t3869694/

Can you please test it on "your" 8 & report back?

As we have some examples of it working on 10. I'd like to get it if it does both.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] TT_Vert:
Double post sorry
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] TT_Vert:
Anyone else get a "trouble connecting" error when you try to enable say "OK google" any time? I want to have it set up to always be listening like alexa but I cannot seem to figure out why this error comes up.

I went ahead and cleared google app data and tried again. I this time got to the area to train my voice but the mic isn't picking anything up for some odd reason. I do have those two lines added in secure as well as the assistant line. Oddly if I click the voice search it will detect audio fine.

Thanks

Dave
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] drizzt09:
I noticed this on my xioami phone. When I click on microphone or clicked the search what I'm listening to. All same error.

I tried uninstalled Google app and reinstalling it. I cleared cache and data on Google app. After a reboot... It worked once... Then back to same error.

I was using Microsoft launcher so I switched back to my default launcher (androidOne pie launcher) and now it works everytime.

I have not tested switching back or other launchers I happen to have installed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] TT_Vert:
Odd, I'm using the stock launcher still. I'll try to uninstall the google app completely and try again. Here are my settings if anyone sees any issue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] drizzt09:
But it's Amazon stock launcher. I'm wondering if they have added a permission for certain launcher or launcher devs. Just a hunch though till I test others
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Make sure you downloaded and are on the Google app version 8.33.5.21 BETA, but nothing later because there after it seems to lose functionality for a yet unknown reason, which includes the current version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
It used to work just fine with fire launcher. It's how and why I got such a laugh out of this trick.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] TT_Vert:
Are you sure it's 8.33.5.21 and NOT 8.33.6.21? The top of the first line of the first post says to use: com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox_8.33.6.21.arm-300818087_minAPI21(armeabi-v7a)(nodpi)_apkmirror.co

"*****UPDATE APRIL 5, 2018 - This guide will activate the FULL Google Assistant!***** USE THIS GOOGLE APP AS OF DECEMBER 8 2018, https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...-apk-download/ " This link links you to 8.33.6.21

Uninstall/reinstall didn't work either.

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Logcat for those who care:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Either or works as long as it's beta. If you installed it as a system app, clear your dalvik and cache before reinstalling. I recently had an issue where I couldn't reinstall that version and I couldn't figure out why. I forgot I managed to fix Amazon's screw up of apps not fully backing up to external storage. So I didn't clean out the data folder on the external sdcard. Took me days to realize the issue. Also check /data/app and data/data for any googlequicksearchbox folder and delete them before cleaning.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] TT_Vert:
**UPDATE**

Success, not sure what I did but I ended up uninstalling, rebooting, reinstalling, rerunning all the secure settings commands, rebooting again and then it worked. Very odd and I'm not entirely sure what I did wrong the first time.

How can I know if it's a beta? I sideloaded via adb using adb install, i don't know if that installs as a system app. I've also tried to pm uninstall the google app just to be safe and made no difference. I've had no issues installing or uninstalling thus far. What I SHOULD mention is that on initial install it opens a screen where it just sits. I'll take a screenshot of it and post.

I just used the linked apk in first post, it doesn't specify it's a BETA in the file name: com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox_8.33.6.21.arm-300818087_minAPI21(armeabi-v7a)(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk It seems the playstore wants to update the google app, should I not let that occur?

Dave

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Also, given I've had to redo this every time I reinstall, here is an easy copy/paste solution to do all of this in one step

and if you want to verify:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] willwalk93:
Did the spotify linking break recently? I just installed with the current versions on 5.6.3.0 and ok google works, but it only opens a web search, won't interface with netflix or spotify or youtube.

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] TT_Vert:
Wait, you guys got ok google detection working when screen is off?

Dav
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] crashnburnMDA:
https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/5/1...ble-roll-out-home-smart-speaker-smart-display

How does this Google Interpreter mode play out on Amazon tablets?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Currently the last known Google app version to fully work on the HD 10 at least, was 8.33.5 or .6 Beta. unless Google fixed the severe amount of bugs since then, it's not likely to work on the tablet on the latest Google app version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
Not "bugs"; rather extended feature/functionality that many find useful. Unfortunately, it requires the full Google Play Services suite (quite possibly portions of the framework) that are difficult to install on a non-rooted host that is not engineered to run Google's services.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Full assistant will not work on the 8 or 10 tablets on Google app version higher than 8.33, beta or not. Tried it again few days ago to no avail.

Edit: at least not on FireOS 5.6.1.0 or lower
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] crashnburnMDA:
Interesting.

Curious - What about the opposite - Could the Amazon "Kindle" stuff be loaded onto a normal Android Tablet/ Phablet or Phone? to get best of both the worlds.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
Many Amazon apps are available in the Play Store although capability varies from counterparts that come with FireOS.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] crashnburnMDA:
Of course and I use those apps even on my iPhone.

What I am asking about is "what FIREOS" experiences have been or can be "reverse engineered" and ported/ migrated in the opposite direction. ? Handsfree Alexa? The way Google Asst has been ported in the opposite direction?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
Few that I have seen across multiple generations of FireOS. Folks initially wanted extended Kindle reader functionality outside the Amazon environment. No dice. Then Prime Video was a thing. Now Alexa. Amazon doesn't release source code and, unlike Google, places restrictions on the underlying platform. Could some crafty individual with no life work around those blocks? Probably. Seems unlocking the bootloader on a low-end gizmo has everyone's attention at the moment.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Can only go so far and do so much before you can't reverse anything else without breaking the signature chain. Unless I find anything else or any other ways around that, there's not a whole lot I can do now.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] sensboston:
Popping up this forgotten thread: I tried to enable Google Assistant on my Fire HD 10 (even I would be happy with just "OK Google" detection for search) but had no luck at all: enabling "Settings"->"Voice match" shows error dialog "Trouble connecting" (but my connection is perfect).

Is anyone able to get Google assistant or "OK Google" detection on Fire HD 10 (2017)? Could you please provide an instruction?

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Google app beta 8.33.5 was the last known working version on this tablet. I'm using it now. At this link scroll down until you see the adb commands and follow the steps. https://www.xda-developers.com/replace-alexa-google-assistant-amazon-fire-7-hd-8-hd-10/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Do you have root? I may have just got a permenant fix for this.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] sensboston:
[MENTION=8165603]DragonFire1024[/MENTION], thanks for the tip but I do have troubles to follow that guide. For Fire HD 10 (2017) it's required to install specific version of the Google Play Services but I can't uninstall currently installed services. Could you hint me how to do this via adb shell & su (or any other way)?

Funny stuff: during my "knocking on tambourine" i.e. playing with different versions of the Google app ( including Google app beta 8.33.5 mentioned by you), I've got somehow "OK Google" working, even without touching "Google app->Settings->Voice->Voice Match" but lost it after reboot :) Now I'm getting stuck on "Teach your device to recognize your voice", I do have endless "Listening... say "Ok Google" (but microphone working OK).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] sensboston:
I do have temporary root achieved via Kingo ROOT: after executing "ROOT" action from desktop, I'm able to start "adb shell" then "su", but after restart I need to root it again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Ok now just use adb to set the settings mentioned in the link and reboot. It will hold. Adb is the easiest way to do this unless you use settings database editor.

If you have root, then do a test for me without setting anything in adb. Download the zip included in this post and extract the files. Place the 2 library files in /system/lib and set permissions 644 (rw-r--r--) and reboot then try.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Well while you have root then add these files. I forgot to add the zip to my previous reply.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Either it's those library files or the latest edition of the Google app fixes the assistant for these devices. Because I went ahead and deleted all the options and settings in this guide, rebooted and said ok Google, it started off automatically. I didn't have to configure any settings or do anything at all it juet simply just worked. It can't be the settings APK because if I recall correctly through my many times of resetting and restarting I believe I still had to do the steps with ADB to get it to work fully even with my modded settings.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] sensboston:
I did it

root@suez:/system/lib # ls -la libgoogle_*
-rw-r--r-- root root 173328 2019-04-26 16:01 libgoogle_hotword_jni.so
-rw-r--r-- root root 9552276 2019-04-26 16:01 libgoogle_recognizer_jni_l.so

but what kind of Google app I should use? With Google app beta 8.33.5 tablet getting stuck on "Listening.. say "Ok Google". I can't follow exactly this guide too, because I can't install specific version of Play services (I do have a different one installed but guide mention some specific version).

Could you tell me, how to uninstall Google play services via adb shell & su?

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Use the Google app you are on now going to settings applications clear all the data in the Google app and force close it. make sure you didn't put any additional settings in the settings database editor app if you're using it. If you did remove them.once the library files are installed in the permissions are set and you did all the above, reboot your device and then just simply say OK Google. If it does not work after that download the latest Google app and see if that works. Also go to the Google app in the play store and make sure you are signed up for the beta program.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
to update play services tap on the Google settings icon in your launcher then tap the three buttons at the top right then tap help when the screen pops up, tap the three buttons again then tap help again then and tap open and play store then tap update
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] sensboston:
I gave up :( There are lot of mess here but no strict algorithms; I don't have more time for "knocking in toumburines" in hope to achieve a magic :)

The best result I've got:

- already installed libraries you've mentioned above;

- first, installed beta 8.33.5 (you said "the last known working version on this tablet");

- issued two adb commands:

adb shell settings put secure voice_recognition_service com.google.android.googlequi
adb shell settings put secure voice_interaction_service com.google.android.googlequi

(and I already disabled Alexa in secure database);

Result: speech dialog closes immediately after opening :(

- updated this beta to the latest release using Play store

- speech dialog started working and somehow "Ok Google" started working but only temporarily. After reboot "Ok Google" detection is disappeared; Google app->Settings->Voice->enabling Voice match always gave me "Trouble connecting. Check your connection and try again" (but my connection is OK).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
I tried to repeat my steps and could not. I was on Google app 9.x.x everything was working perfectly. Assistant and all. And I had to go messing around. Did you try my settings APK? If that doesn't work, then the setting will only hold with root after reboots
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] sensboston:
Could you share/point to the link?

By the way, I decided to leave it "as is": sometimes tapping microphone button is more useful than saying "ok google": if I have my SGS9 or Nexus 7 at same room, phone or other tablet will also catch command :)

One day, someone will release AOSP-based ROM for Fire 10, it will be a good reason to do a bootloader unlock etc. & so on.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
Exactly.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
That's what we've been trying to do. You know how long it took us to hunt down enough sources to even make a working kernel? Not to mention the time we've spent getting it all to work. It's not something that can happen overnight.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] sensboston:
Of course I do! And I very appreciate your work and enthusiasm; the only thing I wanna mention: sometimes published information become outdated and should be updated to the actual state to do not confuse people. It's nobody's fault but might be a not good thing, pushing people to waste time with unsuccessful tries...