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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fredbred:
Hey is this a HTC deHey is this a HTC dealer Thread? :)

The TyTN isn’t a finished device. There are much more bugs and “features” which should be avoid.

1 Video – its really slow. I don’t mind games, I even don’t watch video , because I have other devices for this, but if I wan to scroll the internet page, that’s not the speed I have never seen before! Why takes it so long to switch between portrait and landscape?

And the video from the camera I also pretty slow.

2 Speed – I have used a Fujitsu siemens n560. It was MUCH faster even if it was older and has 64mb ram.

3 The keyboard – this was one of the features why I have chosen tytn. But why they do not think if the do anything. Omg where is the ctrl key? How can you copy and paste? I have always to use the pen for it. No they put rather a key for opening the explorer, which I have used twice so far. And why have I to use the fn key to write a comma? And do you like the style of the keys? Its not even possible to write comfortably the last row of keys if you bent the display? And why are the functions of the keys doubled? Its for disabled people or maybe if you bite off some finger bored from waiting? I would expect that I can configure every key not to have three key for OK two for enter…

And maybe try to write any non-English letter – no we are in the world where no others languages exist.

I tell you, they are not selling what they are telling – What you have been told is not what you get.

What is good – the speed of gps starting, If you use quick gps.

Have a look how fast a under $200 device can be! Put Hiphone in youtube and you will know how fast the screen should react and switch.

Its not only about the damn driver, the parts of the phone are not finished. Not if the producer tells you: It’s the best you can get...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XtreMe_G:
which is why you should try a cooked rom. the internet scrolling thing u mention? its a bug in pie, there;s a fix for that......if you decide to stick to pie, cause lets face it, pie is a pile of **** anyways. try opera mini or mobile. oh and btw......i did get my tilt for under $200

as for the OPs question, there are tons of posts here about the performance of these devices (you might also want to look in the upgrading section to see the performance of cooked roms) and I'm not gonna dd anymore to it. At the end of the day, you are the one who has to make the decision, and you are the one who will be using this device, my advice to you is just choose wisely......i took the jump and got it even after hearing about the video issues, and i never regretted it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] xmoo:
Just get a Kaiser and wait till end of March when the drivers will be released.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Digitaltigre:
If you buy this phone you'll be taking a risk. It may be a small risk depending on what you'll have to pay, but a risk nonetheless of not being satisfied. At least you will have made your choice in good conscience and aware of the situation. Truth is we shouldn't have to compare this device to much older ones and say it's better. It shouldn't warrant a comparison at all but since it does there is obviously a problem. There are those that will tell you their TyTN II is "SUPER ACCEPTABLE!" but that's hardly the point. I didn't buy this thing believing it would have acceptable performance. This device is supposed to kick ass and we believe it would if it used the complete architecture of the chip inside. I got mine for $700 and my plan here on out is to just grin and bear it. There isn't an alternative device available yet and HTC has us over the fence on this thing. The anticipated fix is not going to address our concern of enabling the second core of the chip we paid for. I can confirm for you my experiences with the TyTN II and keep in mind this is before I 'dragged it through my backside' by flashing the ROM. (By the way why in the world would it matter whether it's been flashed or how many times programs have been installed/uninstalled?)

- Video playback is fine if my source is 320 X 240. I have always re-encoded my video anyway in an effort to save space and optimize everything. For this reason I didn't know there was a video playback problem right away.

- The camera is almost unusable. I have turned on the on-screen fps display and in sunlight I get ~18fps, in ambient light make that ~4fps and if it's semi dark forget about it. This effects taking pictures and taking video. The video I shoot ends up looking like a blurry mess and any picture I take better be of a stationary subject or else I will usually miss the shot. Interestingly enough the device takes great photos though.

- Screen rotation is a sore subject. I want the thing to be fluid but instead I have to watch it redraw slowly and in seperate pieces.

- Scrolling - it isn't certain that scrolling problem is a result of the missing drivers. I have to say that scrolling isn't very good but there is a fix on this forum to make it more reasonable.

- GPS works great, I've never had an issue with it although it kills the battery fast. Especially fast when using Google maps or live search because then you have the active GPRS data session combined with the gps.

- Battery life - I have a 1600mAH bat and I have to charge it every day but then again I auto download podcasts and such so I am partially to blame. As I understand it the drivers would increase battery life.

That's about it from me. Sorry this post is so long, let me wrap it up. I don't think anyone can tell you to buy or not to buy. You'll just have to make a decision yourself. At least it will be an informed decision, unlike mine.

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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gqstatus0685:
"Video is not the biggest issue for me, but should I not buy the phone and support HTC who refuses to cooperate?"

With all due respect to all you guys complaining about video drivers.. STFU! already.

No one complained until one geeky ass dude bought it up. I have no problems playing my movies on my device or streaming it via orb.com. I get no lag and for god sakes it's a mobile phone not a computer. It surpasses most devices to date. I have no complaint about this phone. This is like my 40th something phone that I've had being that I work for AT&T and they provide me with devices. When the update comes people will still be *****ing about the video drivers. What exactly are you guys trying to watch? Live video feeds from Mars!?

Seriously get the phone you will not be disappointed. For the record my device does not lag when I slide the screen, etc. I've installed Schaps 4.31 best looking ROM to date. Haven't found another ROM that made me want to change.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
even with no video drivers, it's still the best branded phone in the US. theres nothing better. (yet)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MACkjam:
AMEN TO THAT BROTHER!!!!! I couldn't agree more with you!!!

I think that people expect to dial to Pluto with live feeds from the nethergalaxy and back!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] greenbrd:
Awesome! So it is the official AT&T position that we should all install cooked ROMs on our Tilts? Is that what you tell your customers? And it won't void the warranty? That's fantastic news.

Can you please post your store number and employee ID number so your statement can be confirmed with AT&T corporate? Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] svcglobal:
IMHO, if the Kaiser is used just for business and not extensively as a toy (for games) it is a great device.

Someone wrote "The TyTN isn’t a finished device. There are much more bugs and “features” which should be avoid" but what is the device that is really finished?

Gadgets, like cars, are man developed and, since all of us are imperfect, our devices can't be finished without errors and issues, no matter what.

Installed all GPS software available in my drawer like, MioMap, TomTom, Route66 and iGo and all worked just fine.

Just for the records, the great wireless system get my own home signal up to next neighbor (one green bar) and he is located 150 feet away, both home brick made, no wood walls.

Being a business man I used to avoid games and videos and didn't feel yet any video problems, besides the software experts that, with knowledge, are claiming for new drivers.

So, is up to you, but remember that perfect devices did not exist.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Delta_flyer:
If the OP were coming from a Treo, the answer would be obvious,,,quit wasting your time with Palm!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zagan:
hard to say for me, it's pretty snappy, not slow at all and I only use the phone for the PDA side of things I only have 5 hours worth of calls (in/out) over a 6 month period.

In terms of video problems/lack of video drivers, I reckon the people are running poorly made program from the outset plus ruinning too much crap on the side slowing the CPU down even more, the youtube videos showing this "problem", have the TyTN II using bluetooth, this would be polling for devices every 5 seconds or so, checking thing are still working and stuff this will be chewing up CPU cycles wheather people believe that or not, plus I wonder what the other crap they have running as well, as the tomtom they have on demo mode, slowing thewhole PDA down more.

Anyway, I have Copilot 7 + tomtom 6 on my phone, I find copilot 7 works better than tomtom, though tomtom might make better use of it's features both are basicly the same program though.

In terms of videos I've downloaded/streamed videos from youtube on my phone and they run perfect to me, playing 640x480+ screen size DivX videos seems a bit pointless to me on the TyTN II, as it would never have been made to do such video processing in the first place.

As for browsers lol, IE for pocket PC is pretty crap and if you want the quickest processing out of it you need it to be in fit to screen mode, and then only use sites made ofr PDAs in the first place.

Using IE for full sized websites is a silly matter indeed.

I've currently been on the hunt for a new PDA web browser.

The best I've found is the Opera Mini 4 for full screen stuff but it can't do pop up web sites for example bank websites and net banking etc won't work, but I'm thinking of doing a youtube video showing how fast this java program will run on the TyTN II, people would be shocked compared to the crap IE hands out.

Minimo .2 is a ok IE replacment though a bit quirky.

I think Iris is a better suited IE replacment though, it can do desk top websites but the program doesn't grind to a halt like IE does, yet still does the PDA website column thing quite easy.

I'm still waiting to try out Skyfox but that browser looks to be the goods people.

in terms of OSes I reckon Symbian is much better and faster than WM6 but compared to features it does lack big time, the main reason why I got the TyTN II in the first place, but what can ya do at the end of the day.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Digitaltigre:
I won't STFU thank you very much. The OP asked a question about the driver issue. You entered a thread with the title "Should I Not Buy New Kaiser Because of Video Problems?" and tell us to STFU about them?

I can't convince you that there's a problem with your device any more than you can convince me I don't have a problem with mine so here's an idea - just speak from your own experiences and stop trying to discount mine.

I like how you say he won't be disappointed. How do you know that? Do you offer him a money back guaranty?

Here's another example of my experience. I mentioned before that I download video podcasts on my device. Here's the story on two of them:

Keep in mind this is with Coreplayer 1.2 using the QTV overlay. (the newest best option we have for playing video right now)

CNN In Case You Missed It -

320x240@15FPS plays fine - no dropped frames

G4TV Codemonkeys -

640x480@30fps plays terribly dropping frames like crazy. I get 5fps and so I just can't watch it.

Am I trying to watch live video feeds from Mars!? Hardly. Just a podcast.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jasperrr:
Could you give some recommendations for cooked ROM's. I tried dutty's WM 6.1 and that one is SLOW as hell.

It's definitely slower than other WM6 devices.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jb2001:
here's my 2p's worth :

Right.. Im not saying the tytn II doesn't have any issues it does as highlighted previously, i've had loads of diffferent PDA's over the years including HP Jornada 548, Toshiba e540, Dell Axim X5, HP iPAQ HX4700, HTC Hermes and I liked every device i had (well except the tosh) and lets face it all the afforementioned devices had issues of there own, some bigger that others.

IMO One of the main gripes people here have with the tilt is that they have paid top dollar and inturn expected a super dooper fast device (I don't blame them), and in turn got a device which was adequite, but well below expectation. I suppose its a bit like buying a ferrari with a desiel engine. It gets u from A to B but its not a ferarri.

Anyway...

I on the otherhand got mine as a free upgrade to my tytn from my operator and don't have any hangups on cost. The tytn II is one of the best "convegance" devices i have ever used, GPS, 802.11G, GPRS, 3G, Edge, HSDPA, Quad-band, keyboard, camera, tilt screen the list goes on and on. OK so I cant watch hidef Divx moves on my 2" screen, but why would I want to??? convert them to 320x240....and just like magic....no stuttering....no problems and I'm still running the shipped rom?......from what I have read although i havn't taken the plunge yet most of the cooked roms are far superior that the original and do offer significant speed improvements, im hanging out for the HTC fix before i start buggering about with the Roms but hey each to there own.

In short BUY IT
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Delta_flyer:
I tried Dutty's and found it too buggy. I'm currently using Sleuth's 3.0 WM6.1 and like it so far. Alex makes some good ROMs but he doesn't have a WM6.1 yet. I like the clean ROMs that aren't loaded with crap I don't use. Then I can build up from there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jonas768:
Im Sorry for getting this thread to front. But after hours searching this was the best i found;)

Actually i just bought me a Tilt on Ebay for around 380 Dollars. Anyway...i also looked out for the P3600 phones. Now im thinking if the p3600 would may have been the better choice, because i dont think the on-screen-keyboard is that bad (as i dont think im gonna write many emails anyway).

So is the P3600 faster and doensnt have most of those problems like this skype thing/scrolling etc.?

I suppose its also kind of faster in games and has a faster camera.

So what do you think? Just unlock the Tilt and put it back on ebay hoping to get some dollars out of it?

...I hope the prices for the P3600 drop down again (to around 230$ like in springbreak, wehre i couldnt get it:() and buy it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] coolVariable:
I agree with this statement.

I would also advise against getting the Kaiser.

Almost every new phone has wifi and GPS.

And the new iPhone will come out in June - prob same date the original iphone came out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] andaroo:
here we go again with the whole "kaiser is crap"

here we go again with " my kjam for 5 years ago is waaaaay faster"

jesus, they dont even run the same software,

put windows 95 on a core 2 duo, its gonna be the fastest personal computer on earth,

get real people and stop comparing the kaiser in this way,

and time and time again its been said before, sell it and go whine somewhere else
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Cynical_Wes:
A tiny point, I know, but the point of the tilt is to be able to position the screen as you need it. You must have a very uncomfortable wrist posture indeed if you're able to type AND see the screen at the same time with it fully tilted. I find half way is ideal, and the keys are easy to access from there.

As for the handset in general- I've had mine for a little under 2 months, and apart from battery life, the lack of MSN when I first got it and the fact that it uses USB headphones, I've got no complaints. The battery is my fault for using it too much (playing music, always online etc), and MSN was easily fixed with a .cab from this site.

Sure, the video can be laggy, and yeah, it's a pain, but if you downscale it to fit the screen better, then it's bang on. I'm not saying that I wouldn't welcome a video driver to fix the issue, but it's not the end of the world. After all, it's a mobile phone, not a full pc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sorted69:
No he is not saying that at all so stop trying to stir crap up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trade67:
A coworker uses a Tilt, I got a 8525 (recent used purchase). I never experienced a major slowdown or freeze, he has to soft-reset his phone a few times a day. I do, however, use a cooked rom and a few other upgradeds and his Tilt has stock everything. But it's sort of in line with what I hear a lot in the forums that Tilt is a lot less stable out-of-the-box than the previous version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bigboyhf:
I have not had any issues with my Tilt other than the speakerphone that is seemingly half duplex and virtually unusable. I have a Dutty's ROM and a few other tweaks and it runs acceptably fast for pretty much everything. PIE is quick enough for Pocket PC oriented sites. I've tried Opera Mini 4.1 and it is fairly quick and easy to use, but still no flash support... Voice quality, BT, general PDA functionality, email and GPS are all working excellent! I don't notice any screen lag with my ROM. Switching from portrait to landscape could be a bit snappier, but depending on the screen it is between 1 and 2 seconds...perfectly acceptable though not perfect. My camera works ok. Shutter lag is pretty bad... But I have reasonably good pics from it. Forget about action shots due to shutter lag. Video in well lighted (oudoors) scenes are acceptable to me for a phone camera. I suppose it could be a lot better, but usable for my purpose on a phone as opposed to a dedicated video cam. Low light vids are pretty sucky due to very low frame rate. The keyboard is Ok, not great. It is definitely better than the I-phone touch screen. The keys could have better feedback and some of the more common strokes could be shortcuted better. The top row of keys sometimes is a bit crowded by the screen and there could be a little more space provided. But I am getting used to it and while not perfect, is adequate.

Overall, I like this phone and do not regret getting it. My son got an I-phone and it is pretty cool. Lacking voice dial, 3G, GPS and dedicated keyboard killed it for me. But if I-phone ver. 2 fixes these things and HTC fails to solve some of the shortcomings, I could see flipping my opinion...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rayan:
I really think the "video problems" on the Kaiser shouldn't stop you from buying one.

I really love my Kaiser, and believe me, I've had my fair share of HTC devices already and the Kaiser is by far the best of them all. Even with the problems it has. (There's no perfect device yet).

I can assure you that I can play full screen videos at 320x240 resolution with The Core Pocket Media Player (latest version) and I can Skype with no problems whatsoever. I can play video games, even emulated ones like SNES, Sega, etc...

You can really do so much with the little bugger, you can (if you are into it) hack it like there's no tomorrow...

Even the so mentioned slow camera has been "fixed" by a stupid trick of cycling the device off/on with the camera running!...

You can't go wrong...

But hey, that's your decision, besides if you don't want to risk it, then go the ebay/craiggslit way and you can find them pretty cheap (Tilt version).

Cheers!

RayanMX
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] P1Tater:
Ditto......

No problems here. I can do really anything I want to. The only thing is that there are some small problems with some of the cooked roms, however, with a little tweaking, you can even work around these. ****, nothing is perfect. What you have to remember is that some people just look for something to ***** about. I say go for it and if its not for you, then return it. No big deal.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] IamJoker03:
Reserved

Changelog (02/02/2018):

{DEVICE SPECIFIC}

*Disabled "HD Capable Notification"

*Disabled AlwaysOnDisplay (Bugged Out)

*Fixed Hardware Rebinding issues

{ROM SPECIFIC}

*Added Clock Customization

*Added Pattern Grid Size

*Added TouchScreen gesture settings

*Added LiveDisplay tile

*Added Privacy Guard

*Added Back Less notification sounds

*Added Dynamic Navbar capability

{KERNEL SPECIFIC}

*Upstreamed Kernel to 3.18.92

*Added Boeffla wakelock blocker blocker

*Misc. fixes

PS :- Join the [MENTION=7936659]aicp[/MENTION]Mido group for latest news & test builds.

CHANGELOG (20/02/2018) :

{DEVICE SPECIFIC}

*Added PixelStyle

*Improved Scrolling Responsiveness

*Enabled Night Light

*Added missing keylayouts

*Hardcoded Black level pattern and iso for ov13855 camera

*Enabled Real time lock-screen charging current values

*Improved Call quality

*Increased Speaker volume

*More I missed

{ROM SPECIFIC}

*Introduced Berry-Styles (New Theme Interface)

*Added Adaptive Icons

*Added Pixel Bavbar & Toggle

*Added left statusbar clock & clock code performance improvements

*Added Battery Customizations

*Added Navbar Tile
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] boyriot:
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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] pixel52:
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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] ebrahem khedr:
So far The ROM is awesome but missing 2 thing to be perfect for me

1- the ability to kill an app from recent menu * not the button but in the menu itself (x) like in most ROMs like Cardinal and crdroid

2- expanded desktop

Bugs

The main camera not working
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] hans william:
+1 hope the Dev added the feature

Had to flash newest driver Omni/Sony blob to get the camera working
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] pixel52:
gcam too... FC

---------- Post added at 01:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:23 PM ----------

hi,have you the link for driver.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] ebrahem khedr:
Google camera mod is working fine

I have Samsung sensor btw
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] hans william:
Here

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=890129502657577141
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] pixel52:
Steel Force close
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] hans william:
Really sad, just check your camera sensor with app tool like aida64
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Sahmadkhn:
Camera not working

Forced closed google camera working BT crashes some tym
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] hans william:
Here Sir

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=890129502657577141
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Niki Exodia007:
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[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] febry_valdy:
Great job mate.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] te-kashi:
Snap Camera doesnt work.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] Diego1976:
hi to all, the bluetoot does not function especially when connected to the car speakerphone .. do you have any solution? does anyone have the same problem?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 [Snapdragon] ROMs, Kernels, Re] kabelitz:
I can not find the Power Settings menu.