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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] avalvidares:
I am using the default theme with its icons. I like it at the moment. I probably change it in the summer.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] nee24:
Thanks - Same here. I have no idea why it's not working for me then. A guy in my office has the same thing. We are in Australia. Maybe it's something to do with our release.

Android Version 8.0.0

Android security patch level 1 December 2017

Software Number 3.20.710.2

Kernel version 3.18.63-perf-g5b0809375102

and@AABM #1

SMP PREEMPT

Baseband Version 2.0.U010241a@71204_84.09_F

Build Number 3.20.710.2 9.0_g CL1014340 release-keys

If anyone can think of any other reason this wouldn't work please let me know.

Cheers
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] simplex19:
I believe this is the intended behaviour. Other 3rd party launchers supporting notification dots like Nova (on nougat 7.0) behave like this as well.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] nee24:
That would seem silly to me and before this update it didn't behave that way at all. What is the point in having dots or item count if you can just see it in your task bar. I'm not sure I believe that is the intended behaviour, but I will read more about Oreo to satisfy that curiosity. Thanks for your post.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] too9s:
Thank's for reply.

I tried to exclude any ANT services and Endomondo from Battery Optimization list, but still disconnect for a while. :crying:

Now I use blue-tooth to connect HRM, it works well but battery drain fast LOL.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RegentELite:
Yes, I have the same bug on Endomodo. Still haven't tried Strava though, because it seems Strava won't record any activity until it detects some real movement via GPS, and I've tried to reproduce ANT sensor loss sitting still in my armchair. It's time to open the bike season, so I'll try it in real world within this month.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivcha90:
Hello guys, when i update to Oreo i lost wifi advanced settings for changing my wifi to 2.4ghz only , how can i set it now on oreo?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RegentELite:
Do you mean Wi-Fi frequency band selection for Portable Wi-Fi Hotspot that you can set either to 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivcha90:
I want to change Wi-Fi frequency band to 2.4 Ghz but not for Hotspot, just for default wifi.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RegentELite:
I can't remember this option ever was on Marshmallow or Nougat. Was it indeed there?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sgokan03:
My 10 has now worse battery life, really worse performance (Snapchat runs at 5-10 fps max. Youtube stutters every 10 seconds.), worse wifi (keeps disconnecting for some reason, not insufficient signal), any sort of VPN almost never works, apps keep crashing and the worse: Play Store always crashes when on an app page.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Igoruss:
Battery life on Oreo is a bad joke. I can get only about 3.5-4h SoT with light usage (wifi, no gps, the lowest acceptable brightness). It's not enough for all day.

I've moved from Moto x style which hasn't got good battery but I at similar usage I was able to get through entire day with 4.5-5h SoT.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tsalta:
dont blame the HTC 10 it is still a rock solid device i got everytime about 30 HRS with my moderate usages wifi always on and watching youtube listening music taking photos and a litle bit of surfing i never play games on my deviced because im not game addicted but the biggest problem here is the ANDROID OREO version.

In fact im still using Nougat only for the reason that HTC and Google didnt menage to provide a rock solid OREO Update optimized for US this is the main reason when im still with my Nougat and im happy with this because i need to device everyday to run smooth and to enjoy the usage of it.

Im pretty sure that a XDA devs out here can bring even better OREO build than HTC and Google if they hire them for doing that job instad to push out something that is complete dissaster.

The main purpose in the UPDATE no matter hardware or software is to make the things IMPROVE for better like Better SPeed mush more user friendly much more optimized with less power consumption and always to make the things one idea better than befor so knowing this for me and not only for me the OREO is not an update it is more like downgrade why?

Well even the OREO is nothing wrong with it just it is not optimized for US they build a ROM and throw it aways and this is not a serious really thats why they push it and the take it back few times and right now the official RUU from HTC website is still missing 3 months later.

I was wondering how much times is needed they to fix it and when they already know there is a major problems with this Update they have to fix it and to provide and upgrade maybe just ONE but if is rock solid base this will be enought for us and for Base for the developers that make Custum Roms here.

So for me it is looking like HTC promiss an OREO update and they push something but hey this is a joke.

I think that all users no even only HTC 10 users have to ASK them by petition or request or writing to them all together THAT they have to provide us with reall STABLE UPDATE that is optimized and mean to be used everyday with our devices.

I know HTC 10 is an OLD device already but this doesnt metter because the promiss is a promiss and if they dont do that this will be my last HTC device and im HTC Fan and user from the past 12 plus years. Never ever was thinking to switch to another manifacturer but this Update change the way i think.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] nee24:
Well all of a sudden my facebook app is showing notification icon badges, the only app I do not want it for, even though I have all notifications turned off. I even have badge icon notifications turned off and I'm still getting them.

My battery life is amazing. I can't complain about anything else on Oreo. The only bad thing is that it took away my badge icon notifications when I've dismissed the notification in the task bar.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] simplex19:
It is certainly an Android 8.0 Oreo behaviour. Recently my other phone - a Samsung Galaxy S8+ - received its Oreo update and Samsung stated explicitly that notification dots will be cleared if the notification is dismissed in the notification shade.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SharonL:
Help with Oreo update on HTC phone

Ever since the Oreo android update, my HTC has gotten worse. Lost all wifi & bluetooth connections, all notifications were removed, and Chrome started asking me to sign in. Never had to sign into Chrome before. Tried to login to my gmail acct & it doesn't recognize password. Tried several times to change it/create a new password, but cell phone still doesn't recognize it. I can change passwords on other devices, just not the HTC phone. The last 2 weeks other apps on my phone started "disappearing"/being deleted. Now other apps have crashed & won't open. Now my gmail acct has disappeared from phone totally & it won't let me add it back. It gets stuck in some kind of loop looking for gmail. After 2 weeks of this & multiple calls/chats with Google, HTC & Sprint, the only resolution I'm told is factory reset data or buy a new phone. This is ridiculous. I've had cell phone for 15+ yrs & NEVER had any issues with updates. Factory reset should not be a valid option. When you do a reset, you can lose all your photos, music, contacts, etc. I also have experienced shorter battery life & connectivity issues with wifi & bluetooth, but that's an easy fix. I can't backup or sync anything since gmail acct is removed from phone & can't be added back.

Is Google, HTC, Sprint or anyone planning a fix for all these issues?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuts77:
I had this issue, after taking the OTA. Tried downgrading (I'm S-OFF) and updating again multiple times, then factory resets, but the issue came back each time anyway. Then I flashed the Oreo RUU (latest US unlocked version) and boom. Problem solved.

No idea what caused it. Probably something broken by the OTA. which was not in the RUU.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] wollah_91:
Since Oreo, i have a very bad SOT with battery saver off. I think this 3 to 4 hours max.

I cant even record snapchat videos without heavy stuttering.

I hope they can fix things in 8.1.

They will update to 8.1 in april/may? Does anyone know this?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dutchblader123:
So Is the battery issue solved as of 5 april 2018? Is the android 8 for HTC 10 now stable and as good in battery as nougat? Shall I install it? Just bought the phone new yesterday
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] landsome:
Mine is terrible (I did factory reset it a couple of times). I would postpone installing.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dutchblader123:
Battery life on mine is fine, getting about 5.5 hours of SOT on oreo.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] benitorios:
Mine is terrible, barely can squeeze 2 hours of SOT. Standby drain is about 5-6% per hour. Battery itself is fine, did the test and only lost 12% in an hour, so it's not a hardware problem. I had double the battery endurance in Nougat.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] landsome:
My case exactly - Nougat showed around 70-80% more endurance, same usage patterns. And it's not only idle loss, screen on time depletes battery like crazy.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] benitorios:
Yep. Phone gets warm when in use, doing simple things like web browsing or Twitter. Haven't found a rogue process, no idea what's going on but it never happened in Nougat.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] oryan_dunn:
Same here, terrible battery life in Oreo. Only good thing is video playback and general framerate issues are better now.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheMadKing:
Has anyone found a way to deal with the wake lag? It's not a major problem, but it's pretty frustrating to have the phone lag for a few seconds from time to time, when trying to open it.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] cyrusct82:
Have you disabled in "Display, gestures & buttons" the "Quick launch camera"?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarima:
I have and disabling gestures/quick launch only helps a bit and doesn't actually solve the issue. I've also done a factory reset as some suggested and it's still present, it appears to be a software problem.

This issue is probably the first one ever that has made me disappointed in HTC. It's such a basic thing and should've easily been caught during testing.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] xtalks:
Are these issues fixed in Llabtoofer's Maximis ROM? I am really hesitant to switch ROMs and I prefer the stock one, however theses isuues are getting out of hand. :(
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] cytherian:
About the video playback, is the stuttering problem solved? I have an M8, just got a 10, and when comparing video the M8 is definitely smoother. The 10 is superior in terms of resolution, brightness, and color rendition. Have to give it that. But the stuttering... kind of surprising on a phone of this caliber.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] cengizbey:
I used to get at least 3.5-4hrs of SOT on Nougat.

Ever since I upgraded to Oreo battery performance has been extremely frustrating with around 2.5hrs of SOT.

My HTC 10 is less than a year old and I am running stock android.

I did the following and haven't come across a solution to battery drain issue yet, I would appreciate if you can suggest a solution

- Cache wipe on Recovery

- Factory reset (twice)

- Implemented the background activity limitation on applications which I offer.

- Boost+ foreground activity and optimal screen resolution is on for almost all apps

- Switched from LTE/UMTS to WCMDA only as I am on 3G

- Brightness is at 50% and automatic

- Gestures like double tap and all are OFF
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] cengizbey:
Are you doing anything special to get 5.5hrs of SOT
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] houston_:
How can I get those graphs you are showing?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xajel:
I have the same battery drain issue, Sometimes when I factory reset the problem goes for a while, then after a month or so comes back again.. sometimes factory reset doesn't help at all, I think wiping the internal memory might have something to do with this.

Any news about any upcoming update to fix all Oreo issues ?

I've already factory reseted about 4 times since Oreo update, and the last one is already not working so I think I'll do another factory reset this time with wiping the internal.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] benitorios:
[edit] Never mind, found the answer to the question I put here
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] bugalugs90:
Downloads from MMS don't work

Since upgrading, I have received a couple of attachments in MMS messages which have a download link. I click on the link and it changes to downloading and then goes back to download, but I can't find the pictures anywhere on my phone. My Downloads App has disappeared and the downloads folder under Settings/Storage/Downloads doesn't contain them. Are they hiding somewhere else, or not downloading at all? I have used 58% of 32GB on Phone Storage. Attachments were 600KB & 184KB.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle:
Have you looked here?

/storage/emulated/0/Pictures/Messages
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] bugalugs90:
I don't have an emulated option under storage, but thanks anyway. I found some other data storage areas in my phone, but still haven't been able to find these downloaded files, if in fact they did actually download from the MMS message. Like under storage/files/Android/data there are heaps of folders, but a lot of the ones I looked in were empty.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] cengizbey:
What is the solution?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] benitorios:
No solution found, I was just asking about partition cache wiping but found the answer elsewhere. My battery performance hasn't improved.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] pradeeppk:
I am using htc10 with Android nougat. According to this thread updating to Oreo make more trouble to our phone. What is your suggestions friends,

Is there any way to disable update available notification?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] zxWade:
its ... bad

since yesterday morning my apps worked fine but then i lost track of my phone and it ran out of charge and it turned off after that some of my apps like Lineage 2 and Clash royale and dead rivals are crashing after getting to the game main menu (the game loads till then ) i tried restarting the phone , reseting preferences , reseting internet setting , re-installing them ( only clash royale and lineage 2 ) but no use my other game (shadowgun legends ) works just fine . oh and instagram crashesh after i go into someone dms and Cymra crashes after i go into effect store
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nolia:
battery is draining so bad 20% within an hr after charge and thats with no apps running in background. Its connected to wifi and not many apps installed. Just an odd few like WhatsApp, Twitter, SkySport Football, PowerAmp, MatLab and Kenwood App for my car. So only hope is to wait for an update from HTC?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ninja X:
I am on leedroid Oreo and my phone has the same heat problems. How did you fix it?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xajel:
I couldn't fix it, It's worst also as my battery is already wearing out. now the phone works for 2 hours max reaching in the 60's (rarely below 60%, and only one time it reached 48%) then goes into restart loops which can be only avoided by plugging it.

I'm always carrying a battery pack, thinking about downgrading now, The Oreo update didn't bring anything special over Nougat but bugs (battery, bluetooth & notifications), and it seems HTC forgot the phone.

The only thing stopping me from downgrading is the hustle and I don't have time to do it now.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] benitorios:
Can anyone based in the US contact HTC Support and pile pressure on them to push a fix for the botched Oreo update? I bought my 10 in the US but am based in Europe and whenever I post the online support form, I get redirected to the HTC Europe site and I doubt any message was sent.

This update is a total joke. At the time of writing this, I've been on battery for 4.15 hours with 53 minutes of SOT (light browsing and various small apps) and I'm already down to 48% even with power saver on.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
That's just your Battery dying and not related to the Oreo Update.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] benitorios:
I did the battery test in diagnostic mode and lost only 11%. It's not my battery dying.

Let's stop pretending this update is not a total mess.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ninja X:
I'm thinking of downgrading, but 30usd is pricey.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] supeRUUser:
Welp.... based on the above I decided to give the update a shot and it just destroyed my battery life. Just last week, with Nougat, the phone was lasting 2-3 days of semi-light usage. I was used to finding the phone all the time holding on to life for quite a while even with 1-3% remaining. Now, it doesn't even last close to a full day with ZERO usage: I charge the phone and turn it on, put it down, and come back ~18 hours later to find it already dead.

I am now trying to run it with wifi disabled (but mobile data still on). So far it seems to be doing much better, at least right now it's only down to 90% after being on (and idle) for almost 7 hours. Obviously not a real solution, but it does show that it seems to be caused by wifi.

I haven't installed any apps, nor rooted or even flashed TWRP since flashing the RUU -- everything is "stock." Speaking of which, did you guys without this problem install the RUU, or the OTA update? I wonder if this could be a problem with the RUU only?

Has anyone successfully downgraded back to Nougat? *I just tried the 2.51.617.32 zip and it says "FAIL12 RU_ZIP_ERROR" :(
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] matekaneve:
See HERE
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ninja X:
I get 100% CPU on Oreo. Any advice? Greenify, Magisk, Project Zhana Kernel Mod Leedroid 15.2 Stock Kernel. Kernel auditor power save gov
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] supeRUUser:
Argh, I saw that thread but somehow missed the relevant post #2. Thanks, I'll try that!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] supeRUUser:
Turns out I spoke too soon. Even with Wifi off and minimal use (<30m SOT), the phone barely lasted 18 hours. Today it's already down to 75% after 3.5 hours and only 5m SOT.

Worst update in the history of software! If anyone's on the fence about installing, I definitely wouldn't recommend it.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] gustav30:
Is there hope HTC might roll out an update to address the battery issues, or do we think there 2 years of device support is up?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
First was 3.16 then was 3.18 and latest is 3.20.

Its just not for all regions. So prolly only minor changes.

But yeah. My guess is it'll take 1-2 months for the next update.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ninja X:
What is your idle/no program CPU usage?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ninja X:
What is wrong with my phone? 100% when on clash royale
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ninja X:
Install Elemental X and disable touch boost in kernel auditor
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xajel:
$30 for what ?

---------- Post added at 01:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:03 PM ----------

Elemental X is a kernel ?

While I'm already OOW, I didn't unlocked my bootloader (it's unlockable, but I didn't do it), only S-Off at the moment.

Does Elemental X completely get rid of the issue or the Nougat is better ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ninja X:
Elemental X lets you use the AKT, which helps a ton.

30 use for sunshine

---------- Post added at 12:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:12 PM ----------

Elemental X lets you run off touchboost, already noticing the difference. It's about nougat level. The 30 use is for sunshine, I thought about going back 2 nougat.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xajel:
Yeah I already have Sunshine (I'm already S-Off) so I don't have an issue with that.

So Elemental X is a Kernel, I have to unlock the bootloader to install it and I just flash the kernel ? sorry but I never installed custom kernel in HTC before (I always like stock kernels, used Samsung and Sony before). will I loose SafteyNet with that ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ninja X:
Elemental X enables the AKT to work well by enabling you to disable Touchboost

---------- Post added at 09:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 PM ----------

Uh, I think that if you don't have TWRP then you need to unlock. Go through the HTC devices process or just use the HTC batch tool since you have sunshine. Safetynet is a pass on my HTC.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] marto777:
Hello.From yesterday i have a big problem with the battery.The battery drain without even using the phone.On the night it was drained 75%.Before i it was 7-8% but 75 is too much.Im with original firmware last from when it released.Nothing new installed nothing changed.I tried every fix that i saw on this site but dont have improvment.Everything started before 2 days, when i connected the charger i saw notification charging slow but ignore it.From there i tried 3 different chargers (all of the QC 3.0) and 3 different cables, but dont saw this notification again and never again saw fast charging.The phone says for example 20min to full batery, than after 10min when i look onto it again it says 15min to full baterry.

So battery drain is almost same if i use the phone or not.In betterbatterystats i never see Deep Sleep. And dont have Quick charge anymore.My phone is rooted but firmware and kernel are stock.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] supeRUUser:
Good question. I haven't rooted since flashing Oreo, in an effort to see the the problems while still "stock." This means no app can collect CPU stats in Oreo, unless I'm mistaken?

I ran 'top' over adb shell, and it's showing mostly idle (~375% out of 400). At the same time, though, the phone is doing much better on battery today than yesterday -- 30% after 27 hours, 26m SOT. That's still not as good as under Nougat, and Wifi is still completely disabled. Still, I'm wondering if I need to give the new system a couple of days to "learn" about the battery, or something?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ninja X:
26m of SoT for 30%! That's terrible.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] supeRUUser:
Yes, it sure is. But it's better than the first two days! I didn't change anything except actually installing a couple of apps (Spotify, Google Voice)... so I have no explanation, but curious to see if it continues magically improving. :) I'm still leaning towards downgrading back to Nougat but will give it another day or two.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] InvicTech:
Just wanted to share my experience after the Ugrade to Oreo. If encountered the following bugs:

> Bluetooth Media Controls sometimes don't work. Have to turn off BT and back on on HTC to get it working again.

> Screensharing to Chromecast with HTC-Connect doesn't work sometimes. Have to restart the HTC 10 to get it working again.

> And I get random hickups with Hotspot(4G), where I have to disable and re-enable it. USB-Tethering works flawlessly though.

Anybody got the same kinda issues?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] supeRUUser:
Today I have 48% left after 24 hours and 1h38m SOT. Nothing changed. Looks like maybe Oreo is just extremely conservative about the battery level until it collects a few days' worth of stats? Just a guess but it's the only one that makes any sense to me.

I still haven't tried enabling Wifi since the first day so I'll do that now.