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[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] BlackMesa123:
If in Download Mode you don't find anymore "RMM State: Prenormal" yes you can, just don't reboot in system before flashing my zip or you get locked again. Also seems a russian user in 4pda found a method to bypass the 7days waiting, test it and let me know if it works: boot the phone, set date to more than 7 days of your current date, reboot the phone, sync the date back (even with auto-sync), re-enable OEM Unlock and RMM State should be set back to "Normal" (when the prop is set to "Normal" RMM State isn't anymore in Download Mode)

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Method works on all the phones that has RMM lock support, tbh I don't think s8 has it since even latest bootloader has still revision 1
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Androidwizzard:
doesn't work - at least here for me

and I've tried on previous firmware too, this time on BRA2
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] BlackMesa123:
Onestly Idk, my friend [MENTION=4658360]corsicanu[/MENTION] sent me this, also he's at 100h+ up time so he doesn't wanna test :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] AwesomeARC:
I think it's a countdown. So may not work even if you set time and date. But also...idk...Am just guessing.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] BlackMesa123:
Yup it's a countdown (Device Up Time) but Idk how that user bypassed the timer haha
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
I would expect a value is written to the data partition somewhere (reason why the timer gets reset if the data partition gets wiped).

Possibly this gets updated/checked periodically, maybe against some sort of server time.

This would require a data connection. If this is not available maybe it uses the device time. Possibly why the user above managed to bypass before 7 days.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] BlackMesa123:
Still searching in system about a possible solution, starting to found some interesting things...
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] JeremySS:
Thank you, thank you, thank you for figuring this clusterbleep out. I put a quick write up in the IronMan thread but your solution really should be a sticky. Im on day 3 with many reboots and no isses. https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=75396721&postcount=591
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] BlackMesa123:
Thanks too to the friends that gived me an hand with it? Let's wait they get unlocked so we can really party lol
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] caiquess95:
I'm waiting for 107H anxiously ... I can not stand the use of my cell phone without root :(
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] morostep:
about that if i took out my sim, rebooted and put it back in how long would it take for the rmm state to be normal again knowing that it was before i did that?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] willingtolearn:
44 hours to go and i will be free again?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] tonym900:
Hi guys,

I got a little lost: if I well understood to root an original A5 updated on BRA8 one must waits 168h+ of no reboots and after he can root, right? but can someone of you post or link the updated procedure? I found a mess of BL / firmwares suggestions on various threads: I would like to just root keeping my ROMs and apps installed...
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Andriano24:
And with that you can flash unofficial binaries?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] caiquess95:
after 7 days, did you get to flash the twrp?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] puddingoz:
[MENTION=6911575]BlackMesa123[/MENTION]

Yes mate,can't thank you enough,rebooted many times,into system,TWRP,DL and all good,thanks for your effort,really great job.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] caiquess95:
Is it real then? + 168H and then can flash twrp normally?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Logel:
TWRP is a custom binary. So yes, after that 168 hours of jail I was able to flash TWRP, root the device and install a custom Rom. But after that steps i had to wait again 7 more days until the OEM toggle was available again.

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[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] caiquess95:
it's good to read this ... I hope that here at A5 it works too, because my OEM option did not disappear.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Logel:
I'm sure it will work. You just have to wait 7 days without reboot your phone. And your OEM toggle will appear in developer options. I could bet.

Since many Samsung users have this issue, i think it's not devise related.

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[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ExodusNZ:
Hi guys - Looks like I found this too late possibly?

Ive been waiting 3 weeks to use my Note 8!! Anyways ill quickly explain:

So ive finally flashed TWRP, and THEN installed IRONMAN rom (custom rom) - however - inside settings there is NO OEM UNLOCK - and if I reboot the phone it WILL SAY "Only offical firmwares can be flashed" - so ive got 6 more days to wait till OEM unlocking shows up on my custom firmware (ironman rom) - So since I have full access to the phone can I flash this ZIP or can you only do that when you are in TWRP option?

I know I cannot restart the phone, but thought there maybe a way to help me use this phone more quickly (im too scared to use the phone for the next 6 days, just in case it gets rebooted at work or something and then im stuck with no phone again!

Please help
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] puddingoz:
Read page 3 and do the mods manually is the only way you might recover,don't reboot til mods are done,also you aren't safe on Ironman even after 7 days because OEM toggle is hidden,any reboot can jail you.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ExodusNZ:
Thanks

Which rom do you recommend?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] puddingoz:
Do the mods as I said and fix what you've already got
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] crows:
Hi thanks, you mention the flashable file doesnt edit the build.prop file, do you know if thats been fixed?

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] JeremySS:
The zip does not work for the N8 as the build.prop files are different, but I'm assuming it works fine on the A5 that it was built for.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] MagnoT:
I follow you but I was afraid to ask anything and be flamed to death. Too much info scattered around and people are not posting their current state before trying to root.

I have a A5 with december update (BL rev 3). I already know I can't downgrade my BL.

The missing point is: Can I flash TWRP, boot into recovery right away, do the build.prop thing, root and boot into OS? Is this the whole process? What am I missing? After flash everything will I get locked for 7 days? Then I just have to wait, I guess?

I appreciate any help.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] corsicanu:
The zip fix has a script that edits any build.prop file and removes Rlc folder from priv-app, so it should be universal.

Go into download mode and see if you have "RMM state = Prenormal".

If you have rmm state in download, boot into the rom, keep all network on and don't reboot for 7 full days (168h).

If you don't see that string or if you waited for those 7 days, go in download, flash twrp, boot in twrp and flash the fix zip. Hopefully you won't be locked ever again / for your own safety, flash the fix zip after every flash of any custom tw based rom.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] sefrcoko:
Just to clarify that users have reported rebooting without any impact on the 168h timer (before flashing). If the toggle isn't there after flashing though, then yes they can't reboot for 7 days or else they will end up in jail. The RMM fix seems to help get around that last part though :)
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] corsicanu:
On A5 2017 the oem toggle is there but has no effect if RMM state is already set into the bootloader. In the last 2 weeks i tried all the possible things to reset that state with no luck. So the only way (for now) is to wait those 7 days.

Also my friend [MENTION=6716894]Yahia Angelo[/MENTION] confirmed after 168h uptime RMM state disappeared on his A5 2017 and he successfully flashed twrp and custom rom [emoji16]. I still need to wait another 38h... Cheers!
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] chloeleedow:
Ok so now I might even buy an s9 when they come out because I had almost given up if this stupid oem unlock situation the note 8 had was going to continue on new flagships. So it's in the firmware AP not a bootloader situation? Guessing it's not or else it couldn't be fixed. I'm sure I read somewhere about a bootloader update causing issues now too it might have been snapdragon models?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] corsicanu:
The lock is in the bootloader while the trigger is inside the rom (AP). Usually US Snapdragon models are already pretty locked and you can't do many things, lately they got locked from flashing with patched odin. N950F (non-us) has only this lock (for now).
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Charles Miller:
Could someone do an updated full guide for rooting the A5? As of now, everything is a little too spread out for a beginner to understand.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ts_firehawk:
Even for someone that has been around for quite a while (like me), everything is a bit messy. I can't seem to understand anything about rooting this phone (which, by the way, is the hardest phone to root that I've ever owned) with the January security patch.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Giphitt:
When I enter download mode there's no RMM lock but I'm not rooted. Is there a way to change the files or something. I don't have TWRP
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] corsicanu:
You can find a guide here.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Geekser:
Question - I have an S8Plus - and am prenormal - no oem unlock - essentially I am in jail.

If I wanted to use a different phone while I am in jail - can I remove the sim card from my S8Plus and would that effect the time I have to be in jail? In other words, is it necessary for me to have a sim card in my phone in order to successfully get out of jail in 7 days?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
I wouldn't have thought so. Take it out and report back when times up.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Geekser:
I am tempted - but I also don't want to add time to my Jail Term. LOL- I asked a few people on various help forums on Telegraph and they all said not to remove the sim - I Guess I am just afraid to take a chance, 7 days is already like a life time...if I change my mind and try it out I will report back though...
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] corsicanu:
I personally investigated the java code from framework and from RLC app and it checks for connectivity time... About those 7 days, been there done tha, same thing seemed like a lifetime, but i kept the sim inside and had data and wifi on all the time.. Try to get busy in this time and will pass fast..
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Geekser:
Thanks - I am curious about something and wonder if you or anyone knows the answer to this - I was chatting with some S8 Owners on Telegram and it seemed like some of them had been able to upgrade to Oreo without getting the "Pre-Normal" designation - some were Normal - others like me were pre-normal - which means we are in Jail for 7 days. My question is - why does this happen to some and not to everyone?

I think it is going to become a much bigger deal as Oreo is now getting out to users on S8 and S8 Plus phones - but it would be helpful to know in advance who is likely to get it and who is not. Any ideas?

PS - 7 days will go by pretty fast - just really glad it isn't 30 days!
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] corsicanu:
The answer for your question is that the lock is activated by csc/omc. Some countries have it, some don't. This lock has 2 purposes:

- allow carriers to control the devices bought on subscription and then unlock/unbrand and sell for 2-3 times the amount of money

- allow user to track a device stolen and sold out of the country borders

This is not as bad as it seems, it's a good protection, and encourages users to buy Samsung. Apple has the iCloud thing since years, that makes the device unusable without owner's account, so it's not that new.

As for who will get it - probably all the devices that have FRP will have support for it but it won't be active for all in csc/omc. My country doesn't have support for such, but i activated mine by mistake using N8 omc in a ported rom. And as you know, omc is encrypted since N8, so you can't actually see which one has it.

PS - Glad that is timed and it's not forever. [emoji16]
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Geekser:
thank you very much. With oreo coming out, there are a lot of unsuspecting users for S8 and S8 Plus that have a surprise coming.... me, I am 6 days and counting ....thanks for the information
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] cantenna:
can someone explain who is at risk of these headaches, confused? I thought this was caused by apply the jan security patch but uses seem to be reporting that this is affecting them despite not having upgrading the bl
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] KKTHX:
Anyone tried flashing full 4 file firmware with re-partition (pit file) hmm AQK7 firmware ?

Does it reset everything ?

RMM Time lock etc ?

Because pit delete all partitions and create new ones.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] cantenna:
Is an updated bootloader required? I recently installed a custom kernel from a Jan build (didn't install a new bootloader) but have noted that the build prop entry as well as RLC.apk has been installed, does that mean that this has been installed now?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] JazonX:
The Changes updated might not be hardcoded since you didn't update the Bootloader.

Best way to confirm this would be to - Check in Download Mode - for the RMM State Line.

I guess it wouldn't be there as it's a part of the bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] cantenna:
RMM State Line is just a notification that your locked out of twrp and root for 7 days, you can still have RMM State Line installed but not activated and in that circumstance, you would not see RMM State Line mentioned in download mode... however, if you format... yikes!

Would love confirmation that the updated bl is also required because, as I have found, all indications seem to suggest this is active now on my phone and I have seen a report from a member in xda that says they didn't install the updated bl and that they beleive they got affected by a simple boot.img update.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ALee.G:
Does it work ?

one small caveat ,my phone is already locked !

how am I supposed to get around ,

maybe combinaison firmware ?

twrp root will not work , I already have rmm lock !

what do you suggest I do ?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] corsicanu:
You can read more here. Cheers!
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Davide121123:
Hi, i have a problem with flashing the rom!

When I try to flash it says: This package supports bootloader(s): A520FXXU2BQH4, A520FXXY1AQD7; this device has bootloader A520FXXU4BRA8.

Why?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
ROM? Which ROM?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] AndreCalado:
I guess it might be because flashing a QH4 rom would be a downgrade from BRA8 AND Odin doesn't downgrade bootloaders
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Davide121123:
With the latest update on the ROM relased by the DEV I've installed It correctly. (Sorry for english but im italian.)
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] vinz244:
[MENTION=4778658]cantenna[/MENTION] my phone is almost at 168h (UX3 firmware btw); So now I just reboot to download, then I can flash TWRP? Is that all I need to do?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] cantenna:
dont ask me m8, haven't personally had to dealvwith this yet, just trying to fact find to avoid.

but, from what I understand l, before you start with the reboot, make sure that the oem toggle in usb debugging is enabled!

If you cant access, dont reset, keep waiting. If available and enabled, follow instructions for twrp install to the letter.

good luck :svetius:
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] vinz244:
it just worked! i rebootedto downloadmode the RMM state was gone and i could flash/root !!! finally it youtube background playback is back and adblocking!
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
Make sure you apply the patches or you'll be locked out again.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] vinz244:
did thanks !
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] zocidj:
Hello, if I root with this metod, can I install any new security patches, did I than lose root ?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
I suggest to stay away from small updates which are almost always security updates unless you have a REAL reason to actually apply a security update.

This is what got people into this situation in the first place.

Personally I'm not paranoid enough to think the whole world is trying to hack my device and the Chinese government are attempting to steal my identity. :silly:
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] zocidj:
Thanks for reply. If I want to unroot device, because of warranty, is that posible.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] zocidj:
Any reply ?? :D
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
Just flash the stock firmware with odin.

Knox will still remain tripped but all traces of root will be removed.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] zocidj:
Is any chance that service can know that phone was root, after I flash with odin?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Pat750:
Yes, sure, because Knox is still tripped. But how service handles this situation differs from country to country. If you need service just ask them.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] AndreCalado:
Yeah, that's right. I heard in Europe, warranty is voided only if you take the device to the customer service with custom softwares, firmwares installed. If you flash the stock official firmware again, warranty is valid again. In Brazil, however, once one flash anything that isn't officially signed, or perform any other kind of unofficial alteration, the warranty is permanently voided.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] chloeleedow:
Just thought I'd throw up a quick post that my friend got s9+ yesterday Telstra branded but unlocked Australia and has oem unlock toggle straight out of the box so there is hope for my country and provider at least he's not tried rooting but history would suggest its fine to go if there is root ready for s9+ international models yet? Note 8 Australia didn't have oem out for the box so I found this exciting and wanted to share hopefully he didn't just get a freak phone lol. Cheers guys! Jeff
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] costafabiof:
And when you run this procedure and after installing a ROM it blocks the RMM again, you have nothing to do?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] AndreCalado:
Here is a very comprehensive guide about that matter, I'm sure it would be of much help: https://xdaforums.com/samsung-a-series-2017/how-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] master64nl:
I did the procedure of two steps and after that I tried to make a back-up but still the same problem no mounting data. Do I have to do something more after the two steps?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] BlackMesa123:
That's not RMM, that's data partition encryption. You must first Format Data Partition via twrp, then flash no-verity-opt-encrypt zip or a custom kernel with encrypt disabled
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] master64nl:
Please help me out. I do not follow you exactly. Let me tell you my story;

First I was rooted with Magisk.

I flash with latest odin the new stock oreo.

I flash the latest TWRP with the latest odin.

I stay in TWRP and format data.

Boot back in recovery and flash no-verity-opt-encrypt-6.0

Boot back in recovery and flash Magisk-v16.0(1600)

Boot back in recovery and recover data from latest back-up.

Reboot system and did the two steps because I still got OEM.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] BlackMesa123:
As me and my friend [MENTION=4658360]corsicanu[/MENTION] repeted several times, you must not reboot to system 'till you follow the steps in my post, or at 99.9% RMM Prenormal State will trigger itself, so it's better if you don't reboot now or you can't boot system anymore
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] master64nl:
Okay, so I am in TWRP. How to get too those 2 files in the 2 step methode?

Please make my stap plan in earlier post and fill it with the necessary steps.

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[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] master64nl:
Even trying going back to stock 7.0 the same problems appear. How can that be. Just flash via odin stock rom and flash TWRP and wipe data but the same issue with 7.0
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] costafabiof:
Do you believe that the installation order in TWRP after installing influence on RMM State unlocking?

Example install RMM STATE, then NO-VERITY. Does anything change if it is the other way around?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] master64nl:
I am back on my latest backup again. I was too fast and forgot too set Developer options and enable OEM Unlock option. Aaaaaahhhh so stupid...
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] r4stafari:
Hi there.. was just wondering what happen to my s8?

The thing is i had a custom rom, manually check the steps to remove rmm state, all ok. Go to download mode and did not see any rmm state. Odin flash an oreo BL and CP, still got the message, " only official.... Blah blah blah...". Tried the zip rile thru twrp, also same result..
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] corsicanu:
If you have the RMM state Prenormal in download mode, wait again 7 days and follow the steps mentioned here. The method was tested already on an S8+ with oreo stock rom and worked.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] r4stafari:
I dont see any RMM statw in dowload mode...
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] corsicanu:
You have OEM toggle in developer settings as ON?

You have TWRP installed?

What are you trying to flash and odin doesn`t let you?

Did you tried to flash anything else?

Not having rmm in download mode means your phone is basically unlocked, so your issue might come from bad download, oem unlock toggle off, or the odin flashable not being compatible with your device.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] r4stafari:
OEM toggle=On

TWRP=Yes

When i tried to twrp flash, it didnt complete and auto reboot and got that message.

Flashing a BL and CP of oreo provided by the rom developer. He tried to do twrp dirty flash to update BL and modem on his device, its working. Followed his steps, i got that message.