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[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] filipsnew:
Battery usage has significantly been optimized

I'd like to taste such a biscuit with my p9 cappuccino

With Nougat july update the split screen functionality has came something tragic
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nate91:
So, there is no official announcement if I am correct about the European p9? No more updates on firmware finder, not even security. Is the official development dead?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] 3m2vinatohr04:
Yep. It's safe to assume that official development is now dead for P9.

Huawei has churned many phones for the past 2 years and sadly even though P9 is flagship, it's now forgotten by them
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] filipsnew:
2 OS is the historical maximum for Huawei, so no chance for Oreo and EMUI 8. The same holds true for security. Anyway the device is good, it works well, it offers many many goodies in functionalities.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
Sad p9 didn't get Oreo,even my 6x got Oreo (a beta build, available on request),never got stable build .
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] zeun:
Talk about p10.... That device got 1 OS upgrade and thats it l, like p9 got 1 OS upgrade too (well china got android 8, but that doesn't count). P20 will get 1 OS upgrade too and they will forgot this phone... Correct me if I'm wrong :d
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
P10 has already pie in beta,it's surely geting it.Even Honor 8 pro (v9) has pie in beta in France ,it's 2nd major update,they are definitely working on giving 2 major updates to it's flagships.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkionline:
They had to decide and it went useless to work for an amount of models, that its the half of chinese Kirin 95x devices. While china still getting updates, we would stuck anyway. You can see on Honor 8, they had 5 months more in supported timeline to work on it.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
I guess they won't do the same for their new devices
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/01/...mui-9-0-1-update-adds-various-optimisations/. Check this out guys
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jan Philipp:
"Huawei is rolling out a new EMUI 9.0.1 update to

Huawei P10 and Honor 9

in China."

This is the P9-Section. No news for us.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nate91:
I checked with the costumer support in Slovenia and they confirmed that there will be no android 8 for huawei p9 in EU (so nothing new), I also asked about the security updates and they said that they still are not sure but probably will release a few more security updates.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] PhoneTechShop:
What bout P9 ?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
Stopped getting updates ,no more security patches too I guess,so it's now in EOL status
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] PhoneTechShop:
So honor 9 is better than p9 ?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkionline:
Thats a 2017 device and will EOL this year.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] zgfg:
What will EOL mean for P9 AL10 Oreo?

It is also 2016 device (like P9 Lx9), it just received recently b540-Patch02 by OTA.

No more updates, just maybe some patch?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkionline:
3rd year is china only with updates every 3 months or so, but might happen like this. Honor 9/8pro europe model is done with Pie, China isnt bound to that rule.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
And what about the midrangers?...my Honor 6x indian model got Oreo but Chinese model got GPU turbo as well and still gets updated:confused:
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkionline:
They all still getting updates, but in other timeframe as i said. Plus, some are a little younger.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirian:
If honor 8 is getting then definitely p9 will take it
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
Bulgarian support center just told me that Oreo may be only for the chinese market. No promise for coming to our country (Europe). Which is weird... :)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] filipsnew:
It's a sin
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirian:
Thats not the case. It will come.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
I saw your post. You are claiming to be working on the Rom but there is no proof anywhere still. Till I see something official can't trust to some unknown dude from a forum - don't get it personal and don't write another novel to explain what you work on and all the other things.

I know Huawei support is noth trustworthy but Huawei is not either... So will wait and see. :)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] filipsnew:
I think clients will deprecate a one year only support for the ROM of a high-end device. Old customers won't choice the same brand for future devices they will buy, if Huawei abandon the previous ones for its bias in favor of new items (and new buyers will do the same, if they know the trend..)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Akinaro:
You really dont get it. We make fun from iPhone users for being "dumb", but truth is that most of android users dont really care about updates or dont even know specification of their phones. Truth is that people who visit XDA or any other similar sites are maybe 10% of WHOLE android user base in the world. Most of young or internet-active users change phone every year or two. Others change phone "when it dont work". If you ask typical user what screen dimension their phone have, or with CPU it have, they will not know. They will probably will not know even version of android, for them its "Android", the end.

You need to look on phones like you look at cars, there are millions of cars, but small number of people actually tinker under the hood with engine, suspension or anything else. Their "modding" end in color, wheels, car stereo and toys inside the car. They are not interest in specification. If its fast, they will say "its fast", not "it have 240 HP with turbocharged with custom exhaust. It make 0-100 in 3.8 seconds"

So understand that most of people will not care if OEM put one or two updates in the phone. People will not cry about WHOLE BRAND basing their opinion on just one device. Because is literally like judging Samsung phones by having one Samsung fridge...

If typical user will be happy of how device look, if its fast and if it make good pictures, it will buy another phone of that brand, they will not spend every day on forums complaining about updates that really just change number in phone info tab, and screaming to not buy phones from them anymore.

As for Oreo update: We knew month ago from rumors that we will get it somewhere in Q1 of 2018, so just sit your back part of body and wait. Its not like your phone is dying or dont work. I have latest update and phone work amazing, just like it was working with previous updates. Nothing to complain, because if I would complain... I would buy new phone, simple as that.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] filipsnew:
Yes, this analysis seems correct (iPhone users, though "dumb", generally obtain more extensive support.. 2, 3.. years.. so I don't know how really "dumb" they are :)

Obviously devices with Android 6 work as well as with 7 or 8. (Some features sometime get worse in new releases.. but generally the new ones are useful and interesting)

I know however that, e.g., Samsung has guaranteed "old" devices like S7, and minor items as A3/5. I really don't do a drama of that, and certainly I don't change an excellent (and expensive) device like I change ties. So.. that's all falks!
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Akinaro:
Oh Jesus, ""extensive support"" for iPhone... For just past two months P9 got 3 or 4 Security updates. If this is not good update support what is is it? You want 1kg gold bar with it?

And dont compare Apple updates with Android, those are two different platforms, Apple can afford such long updates, because devices are very similar to each other, when Android OEMs like Huawei have dozens of devices with different spec to support, and P9 was never "real" flagship in the first place. It had one big update and now we god bunch of smaller updates. Just like any other similar device made by other companies.

Also your mentioned Samsung ""minor items"" like A3. Well they DONT HAVE oreo yet, They will get, it but not now.

Just look at google statistic: https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html

Less than 1% of devices have android 8.0 This version really get pushed to market right now by everyone.

All Oreo updates for android devices are coming just now in first half of Q1 2018, so please someone explain me why people complain about Huawei update if every god damn OEM do exactly the same, difference is that we just dont have open beta test like others. Big deal...

I really dont understand this drama post that we had here for past month, this topic should be empty and everyone should just wait for update happily using their perfectly working devices as they are with current version.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] filipsnew:
Yes, that's true, Apple haven't fragmentation, a big advantage in this context.

The security updates are undoubtedly good.

Effectively, I remember sometime ago I looked at the history of upgrades in Android versions, relatively to the models closer to Google, i.e. if I remember correctly the Nexus devices.. well, even they didn't ever go over one important update (that is, new OS in the phone)

And about the Samsung mentioned devices, honestly, it seems reasonable they will be upgraded (they are 2017 items!). The singularity seems rather for the S7 (if it's right what I've read about it). Would it be the 3th OS the device would see?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Goldak:
What do you expect from Oreo? I dont actually see any killer feature... the only important thing would be treble.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] filipsnew:
Honestly I don't expect anything extraordinary. I remember the review, some months ago, and they remarked the very little difference respect to Nougat. There should be also a pejorative element, if I remember well, in the layout and/or notifications. The unique noteworthy feature I think it was the decentralization of "permission to installation from unknown source"
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirian:
No you are right that's how it looks to you. What I can not understand is:

You are claiming that Huawei support is not trustworthy and Huawei (as a company?)

How many updates you had so far? You have to understand something very important....Many devices are not getting updates. The main reason is that when you buy a device which is branded by Vodafone for an example and Vodafone won't push updates to their Vodafone customized firmwares, the updates will not arrive to your device.

Since I love to write novels I have to remind you as well that almost every 2 weeks you have a new update. Either is security patch, either a new camera add-on either a battery fix. Officially I am working with patches for P-Honor range. Not specifically for P9.

Back to work

Cya
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
No one gets updates every 2 weeks. My phone is unlocked and for the year and 4 months I have the phone I got 4 or 5 updates. It's bad in the update side. But this is not the case right now, it's ridiculous because we didn't get even 7.1, now if we don't get Oreo Huawei will be the biggest piece of sh*t ever. P9 was a flagship phone and not very cheap, yes it was cheaper than other flagships but hey, they put the price, not me... Whatsoever, I am just saying, no one to trust about getting Oreo untul they see it in there OTA... :)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirian:
Within 4 months Huawei has been released 4 updates at least. P9 came with MM. Since then there were many updates. I am sorry for your experience with Huawei. Sell your "piece of **** phone" and go buy something else that gets more support. I would suggest you to read my long "novel" post.

QQ GL
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] StonyD:
Sony gives every 4-5 weeks a update with security patches. I know it because before my P10 i used a X Compact, Z5 Compact etc
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devil Trigger:
Why are people so toxic about this topic? Why people that want their investment to be at the top for some years are treated so bad? Why if someone says "bad things" about your phone you start to complain? Can a person want an update without being harassed? If you aren't interested in updates why are you in this thread?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
I am talking about P9 versions. I know that Sony are one of the best when it comes to support.

---------- Post added at 03:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:19 PM ----------

Because when some people buy something, they think IT'S THE BEST ever and defend it at any price. It may suck big time, but they are so blindsided that it's ridiculous. Just like Some people defending Android over iOS and opposite... Sick story bro... Puting feeling is gadgets is ridiculous. And they don't see it as investmen, it's something they have and because they have it - it's the best no matter what. For normal people it's not perfect and they can see it.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirian:
C432

Open firmware finder. Check the updates. Check how often an update is been released. Check how many updates you had. How much more?

Any average user wouldn't care less about updates. As long the phone does what the user wants.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devil Trigger:
But on xda you don't find "average user". I think you can tolerate the fact that some "power user" here wants updates, you don't?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
Which is worse that they don't care and don't know why they need updates. Later when their credit cards are empty they are crying all over the place. Security patches should be a MUST every singe month. About OS updates, yeah they are nice too. For example I don't like 3rd party launchhers - after time they slow down the phone, but I really like the app shortcuts, really useful for doing stuff faster.

Some people need picture in picture... We all have different needs but there is no excuse for supporting flagship with one OS update, the OEM is complete trash and doesn't deserve customers.

Still I have hope that Huawei will not screw us and will release it everywhere. Only thing I don't get is why the f*ck they don't come with official info on their facebook and twitter which phones will get the update so at least we can be informed. (And we can sell our phones now and get something else).
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] trettet:
For my region, I've been receiving security updates every month, my current Security patch is December 2017, Huawei never missed a single monthly security patch afaik since Nougat in my region C636.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] udamster:
Even I'm on C636 but still on Nov 2017 security patch. No updates in January or February
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Devil Trigger:
First of all, P9 was a flagship the time it was released.

Second, Power User doesn't mean Rich User. P9, here in my country, dropped the price quick, I bought it for 250€ more than one year ago. So people that are power user not always buy the best of the best, but sometimes they have to be content.

Third, who wants updates here doesn't want "tinkering under the hood", but wants official updates from manufacturers.

Finally, this is a thread that talks about Oreo for P9. If you aren't interested in updates, why are you here complaining about people that want updates? Just leave this thread and move on. It's simple.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] NOSTALGIA:
CLEANED A BIT. STOP THE NONSENSE.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] cheesepizza178:
My P9 is still on March 1, 2017 security patch. I'm currently on nougat and it works flawlessly. But why am I not receiving security patches regularly? Mine is C185. Full code - EVA-L19C185B385.

And also how do I go to C432?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] nigxxx:
i receive yesterday update with january 1st security patch., here in croatia. i dont know what else came, it was a 1gb update
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] udamster:
Did you get the recycle bin feature for gallery and 3D dynamic camera
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] nigxxx:
i am sorry I cant check it for you now, tonight when i come back home i will see, and give you more info
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jan Philipp:
Yes, it came with B397. The 3D-Mode is really nice and there's a folder with deleted fotos in the gallery.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] nigxxx:
https://pasteboard.co/HbiQfRQ.jpg

january 1st secur.patch
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jan Philipp:
Your "screenshot" about the Patch-Level is no proper answer to his question (seriously, you should read the manual about taking a screenshot). He wanted to know if the new features (3D-Mode + recycle bin) were included in B397. Answer: Yes.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] nigxxx:
I believe that topic is about oreo on p9, so we are both wrong. I dont care about this options i dont use them anyway. I just want fast,updated and bug free os .
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkionline:
http://cn.ui.vmall.com/thread-15000019-1-1.html

Oreo confirmed now by product manager.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
Now it's time all the Owners of the devices to send Feedback from HiCare app and demand the update or they may leave it only for China! :)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkionline:
View attachment 4447382
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] SkyDrive.:
And for all of us who don't speak Chinese, what does it say?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] cheeze.keyk:
do you think they will enable project treble on their Oreo Update for P9?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] blue_moon:
What does it say?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Akinaro:
First two symbols say "prepared" or "ready", third symbol look like "in".

Im not good at reading but translator also say "prepare"

Yellow, mean "trail version"

Green "new"(but im not sure)

Blue look like "updated"
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkionline:
green = Oreo out of the box

blue = got oreo update

yellow = in beta for Oreo

red = next for Oreo beta
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
Is the Honor 6x in the list?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkionline:
There is a Hisi655 on the list, so why it shouldnt be updated?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
That's a Honor 8 lite I guess!
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
But still Honor representatives are saying it's under testing for 6x so I'm confused:confused:
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] udamster:
I doubt, Huawei generally gives 1 year of OS updates for mid rangers. Which is why even P9 lite didn't get the update. But the processor can easily handle it, hope Huawei changes their mind and gives and upgrade.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
Yup even I'm also hoping so
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] luiszevs:
Good news

https://www.ithome.com/html/android/350901.htm
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jan Philipp:
It's chinese. This forum is english. So, good news for those who are speaking Chinese. :confused: :(
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] luiszevs:
Way, google translate has already been canceled?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jan Philipp:
Google still works. It only has a few problems with chinese websites. It is not capable to interpret the site layout correctly. :) That's maybe a german problem.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] luiszevs:
ooo,it's sadly:confused:
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Supersad:
Honor 6x Oreo has been confirmed by Huawei China forums:laugh:
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bobjbain:
Google translated quite well ;):cool:
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Akinaro:
That last part sound like NPU on latest Kirin processors not features of Oreo...

If that will be part of EMUI 8 its just another proof that those AI chips beside doing simple thing like recognizing camera scene, are just advertising mambo-jumbo...
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] cheesepizza178:
So I got another update today. It's the B94 update and it was 1.25GB. I didn't get the 3D camera thing or the recycle bin either but there are some minor changes...

Edit :

About 1 hour after the first update I got another one. This time to B96 and it was a 295mb update.

This makes it the third update this month. Wow. What's going on at Huawei? 2 updates in a single day and 3 updates in a week...

Edit :

This new update comes with a new app. It's a video editing app by GoPro called Quik. Why does Huawei keep adding bloatware?? First it was Swiftkey, then Google duo and now this. I never use these and there's no way to uninstall it either.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Akinaro:
You actually just got what we all have for months :D

Now just wait for 398.

Latest one is 399 but its not clear if its "official for everyone" because just few people received it for past weeks.

Oreo should be released between end of April and end of May, but I dont think it will hit global market and it will be first limited to few regions.

Of course Im just guessing here, relaying on other devices and other OEMs that in that time release Oreo, so dont quote me on this... ;]
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bobjbain:
B501 on my FF yesterday, it's the hope that kills you :)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] luiszevs:
So what? what new did you get?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bobjbain:
Nothing, not authorised for installation and I'm not unlocked so can't install it via other methods...

Like I said, it's the hope that kills you..
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Arnys:
B501 actualy are B396 , just security update..
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] cheesepizza178:
How did you change the color of your settings page? Is your phone rooted?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] udamster:
Thats possibly a Huawei dark theme
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Arnys:
No root. EMUI theme factory https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.emuithemesfactory.emuithemesfactory
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] luiszevs:
I have C636, the phone is rutted and I can install the latest firmware, but why, just for the Google patch? (
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jan Philipp:
Because it's a sign of good service to keep the patch level up to date. Google-Patches are useful Security-Patches.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] luiszevs:
If it's ironic, ok, I agree, :D ,if seriously - I'll wait for real improvements. Good luck.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bobjbain:
Oh wow, security patches are useful patches, if you want your personal data to be as secure as possible then having the latest security patches installed is a must.

They also include bug fixes that you may not think are important but can improve your phones performance.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] trettet:
If anyone's wondering why the P9 didn't have B4xx as versions it's because 4 is considered bad luck in China and Huawei is a Chinese-based company.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkionline:
Thats choosed by sammy. Honor 8 has B40x...
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] cheesepizza178:
OMG!! This looks epic. Man I've been using this phone for over a year and I've never heard of this. Thanks mate.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Akinaro:
wait... people are amazed by "black" setting menu when its a matter of using any black theme in default app called... themes? That you could do for... always? Even on this forum there excellent XDA black theme with orange addons, and about 10-20 other black themes....

I really dont get it, people cry about updates when they have no idea what their current system can do...