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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
There will be some wierdness until you do some debloating. As of now, the assistant is relying soley on the Google app, while it also activates Amazon replacements and gets lost. I was hoping you were going to say they were talking to each other. Lol. The other option is to download system app remover by j rummy I believe. That makes sure to actually uninstall it instead of just deleting the apk. Then use a root explorer to delete the folder. Replace the Amazon apps you don't like with Google apps. Don't uninstall Amazon photos. If you're tech savvy enough to know what system apps to delete, ypu can delete the contact and calendar apps, and their sync counterparts. Then flash pico gapps and install the google calendar and google contact apps from play store. I'm currently testing the HD 10 in a special mode that appears to allow me to debloat at will without crashing the system. I need someone else with a HD 10, that's is NOT debloated. This could lead to some special things, but with me being the only tester, I'm kinda lost too. PM me if you'd like to assist.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
Just to update- the newest update to the Google App/ Assistant works well with the FIre HD8 for me
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] ThisCrimsonDiscordia:
I've got an HD 10, and while it is debloated and heavily modded, I backed up every system app I removed so I can bloat it back up for some testing. How can I help?

Sidenote, completely removing Alexa and converting the Google app to a system app(along with Services, framework, etc) using App2Sd's tools seems like it did make Google Assistant the default Assistant app, minus the actual entry identifying it as an assistant, it seemingly holds up well enough.

Also, what's the point of keeping Prime Photos?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Until I can figure out how to hack Amazon's settings for the lock screen wallpapers, deleting it will not allow you to change the lock screen wallpapers. If you do, you have to use my systemUI mod, to change them.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] ThisCrimsonDiscordia:
Even before I rooted the Fire I was unable to change the lock screen wallpaper, Amazon Photo or not. I like your initial fix for it, though, doing away with the lock screen entirely is definitely a huge improvement. The whole tablet, in fact, is nearly indistinguishable from the day I pulled it out of the box. I've got SuperSU, Xposed, Hacked Flashfire, Nova Launcher, Material Shade, and several Google replacements for their amazon counterparts loaded to the system, in addition to several Xposed modules that do some nice custom work without messing with anything in the framework. On that note, can anyone tell me a good method of discerning what module is likely to try and modify the framework or something else that will leave me bricked? I ask because Amazon is likely going to catch on soon if I brick anymore lol.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Can't tell you how many times I've reflashed stock. Unfortunately the only way to modify the framework right now, is mannually, by decompiling the apk and editing it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] ThisCrimsonDiscordia:
Well if you need someone to test anything just let me know. Still picking up a lot of this as I go, so I may need a little guidance.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Thanks and totally understandable. In the past year and a half, I've pretty much tought myself all of what I've posted here on XDA. I'm still learning too. This is an area of study that's ever changing.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] vinodv:
Hi,

I was looking for just this information. How do I go about completely removing Alexa on a rooted HD10? I know how to do the latter (making Google, Services, Framework etc. system apps), but would appreciate some pointers on the former.

Vin
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
If you're rooted, You can download system app uninstaller from Play Store and just uninstall it like any other application or just go to the application folder and delete the APK.

Edit: if you read the options and download secure settings app, you can do it that way too.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] vinodv:
Thanks. Just the app named Alexa (or whatever it is called - don't have the tablet with me atm)? Are there any frameworks, services etc. to get rid off as well?

Vin
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] ThisCrimsonDiscordia:
There's an Alexa shopping app too. I used Apps2SD, which has a lot of options (including uninstalling system apps) accessable from the page listing the apps. It has them listed alphabetically, so just look for another app or service that says Alexa. After that just clean up any residual associated files in /system/priv-app and you're golden.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Just Alexa app and Alexa cards should be enough.

Edit: if you don't plan on using the shopping apps, you can uninstall them too.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Nah. Should be good to go.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] crashnburnMDA:
Is it possible for Hands free access to both... Google Asst/ Ok Google and Alexa?

Or Easily switch between both of them (When in an Alexa oriented mood or GAsst mood)?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
I believe only through Bluetooth. You would toggle that in the voice settings of the Google app. Beyond that I do not know. The full assistant is new on lollipop and I haven't really explored it at great length yet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
I have them both enabled on the HD8 and on a rooted HD10. I just followed all the directions with the exception of making the adjustment to alexa_enabled in the Settings Database Editor. They both work great. The issue I have is getting my parents to learn which assistant does what
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] ppp127:
I am a non - English speaking area.

How can I use another language?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Tap on the Google app, then the three lines at bottom right I think. Then settings, voice.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
I've never used Alexa. I don't even know what Alexa sounds like. Wish I could help here lol.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
Thanks- but it's just because each assistant has strengths and weaknesses. Alexa is great so my dad can say "Alexa, play oldies radio" but if he wants to know about Elvis time in the military, Google is better at giving him that information. It's also a generational thing. Every time I look at my parents phone, they have the 8 icons from the desktop spread across 5 pages since they still are adjusting to touchscreens. I just put Nova Launcher on every device they have and locked them
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
You can set default music players like Pandora and what not through Google Assistant. I know it works for Pandora because I use it. Just ask assistant to play some music and she will suggest installations.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
Thank you for the suggestion. My dad is very particular, though. He likes to have random songs play, but once he hears a cover of a song not done by the artist who he associates with it, he never uses that service again. Amazon Music is the only service who hasn't committed that sin (though, I'm sure it's just a matter of time). He also likes Alexa's "personality and charm" a bit more
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] MLM1020:
Fire 5th Gen

Hi All,

I'm desperate to get GA running on my 5th gen Fire (as it can't run on my Note 3 phone). I followed the steps but I think I missed a step or screwed up somewhere. Can you please let me know where I went wrong? I used ADB ... Also wondering if installing RootJunky's SuperTool is recommended? Beyond AMZ Shopping I don't care for much of the other stuff.

These are the steps I took:

1. adb devices

device shows

2. adb.exe

(bunch of stuff appeared on screen)

3. shell pm grant by4a.setedit22 android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS

(bunch of stuff appeared on screen)

4. adb shell settings put secure voice_interaction_service com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox/com.google.android.voiceinteraction.GsaVoiceInteractionService

(nothing happened)

5. adb shell settings put secure voice_recognition_service com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox/com.google.android.voicesearch.serviceapi.GoogleRecognitionService

(nothing happened)

6. adb reboot

I can log into Google Chrome and Gmail, but cant Google Play,Voice or Asst. It asks me to sign in but then says "Can't establish reliable data connection to server"

Before starting, I installed these:

Google Search 1.2.0

Gmail 1.8.6

Google services framework 2.3.4

Play Store 10.3.12-all [pr] 198814133

Play Services 11.5.09

Google Asst launcher 1.0.4

Google Acct Mgr 5.1-1743759

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Can't wait to start using Google Assistant with my mini!

PS - Drag thanks much for all your work and creating this thread
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Won't work on the fire 7 without downgrading the Google app. Between this thread and the on in the Fire 7 forums, someone stated they got GA to work with Google app 7.X.X. you'd have to look through the posts as I don't have a link at the moment. If the play store doesn't work, uninstall all 4 apks and reinstall from the guide in the fire 7 forums. Use the apks in the links, not the updated ones. Let the play store and services update on their own.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] MLM1020:
Thanks so much for getting back to me so quickly. I didn't even know it was called a Fire 7 :rolleyes: Will follow your advice and report back!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Check settings, device options, and it should tell you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] MLM1020:
Yes, it says "Fire (5th Generation)" 5.6.1.0 March 22/18
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Yeah it's a 7. As with my last reply, try experimenting with google app 7.X.X. That's what I recall someone saying they got it working.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] MLM1020:
Hey DD, would you mind reading my post. Any advice would be great. Also, sent you a PM. Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] MLM1020:
Success: Fire 7 (5th gen) os 5.6.1.0

Wooo Hoo! Success!! The problem I was having was total user error on my part. I didn't realize I had to use Settings Editor - yeah, yeah I know.... I installed the apps in the order [MENTION=2584773]dondraper[/MENTION] & others posted "1. Google Account Manager 2. Google Services Framework 3. Google Play Services 4. Google Play Store" followed the instructions - this time using ADB AND Settings Editor. The only (interesting) hiccup was Step #8: "Open App and train voice". Since I disabled wireless during the installs I did not receive "Settings/Voice Detection" option. I exited out and proceeded to install the older version of Assistant (which gave me some 'retry' error), enabled wireless and rebooted. When I opened Assistant it had already recognized my "Google Home Mini", synced all my info and prompted me to set up voice recognition - easy peasy! I'm loving it! Now I can ask Mini "what does my day looks like?"... HUGE THANKS to [MENTION=489359]dragonfire[/MENTION] for this - now I don't have to upgrade my sero phone hahaha... And big thanks to Draper for the older GA version
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
I just read your message right now- sorry about that. I'm glad it all it all worked out for you!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] MLM1020:
Yeah, I'm luvin it! Couple ques: Were you able to remove any AMZ apps? What method did you use? Do you suggest I install Launcher Hijacker And Nova? Any thread links would be great. Thanks again
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
I'm not sure if you can remove Amazon apps on the 5th gen. The 8HD I have is a 7th gen and I don't think it is possible until it's rooted. I sent you a message on some apps I would suggest, which I hope is useful to you. I'm not 100% sure they all work with the 5th generation
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
System apps can no longer be disabled unless you are onFireOS 5.4.0.0 or lower or have root access
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] MLM1020:
Awesome. Thanks so much!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Kryxan:
Works beautifully, hands free Google assistant on my fire HD 8. Alexa is still enabled on hold home button, but I'd like to get both Alexa and Google Assistant hands free. Is that possible?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
I have both hands-free. I think Alexa on the HD8 , the screen has to be on for hands-free to work though.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Deeco7:
'Access with Voice Match' doesn't seem to work for me. When switching toggle on blank page shows and does nothing then shows 'Problem while connecting' dialog
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
I do too. Still working on why. I think it has to do with trusted agents and the mucked up Amazon lockscreen.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Assistant stopped working sometime after August 1. I had to downgrade back to the August 1 beta release to get it working again. This isn't just a problem on Amazon tablets. A few of my other devices are having the same issue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
Yep. Same here
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
I had to redo my S4. Strangely not affected, aside from ok google not working the assistant does fully work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Latest: had to further downgrade to 8.13.12.21 beta. Seems now everything works. Assistant plays the news ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
That version works well for me. Here is a link for it for anyone who needs it (no reason to scour through APK Mirror when you don't have to) https://drive.google.com/open?id=1aZ4PbJdZ_Jo8oNZYdQX9oJvS6ym4AjuV
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Ivorin:
Thanks for the update.

Can anyone share more details about what the "full" Google Assistant can do on a Fire tablet? For example, can it:

• Be activated by the "OK Google" wake-word, and under what conditions?

• Compose an e-mail via voice dictation?

• Search for e-mails containing specified text?

• Play songs from a specified artist or album? And on what music services?

• Set timers, alarms and reminders?

• Create an appointment in the calendar app?

Are there any other nifty things you like doing with it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
Yes- the Ok Google wake word works after you follow the initial steps in the original post

Composing an e-mail doesn't really work (from my experience)

You can search through your e-mails

You can play a song from an artist, album or playlist after you link a default music app (Google Play, Youtube Music, Pandora, Deezer or Spotify. I've only tested with Spotify and that works). Personally, I prefer using Amazon Music via Alexa though

Timers and reminders work

Creating appointments didn't work for me
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Ivorin:
Although Google Assistant works pretty well on my Fire HD 8, on my Fire 7 I'm not having much luck. Does anyone have it working on a Fire 7? Here are the steps I tried:

• Clear the app cache of Google App and Play Services.

• Uninstall any existing Google App.

• Wipe the cache partition via booting into recovery mode (hold down Vol Down + Power).

• Install the specified version of Google App: 8.13.12.21 from a source such as https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-search/google-search-8-13-12-release/ (perhaps the right version is arm-v7a + nodpi)

• Apply the changes to Settings Database Editor as specified in this topic's first post.

• Open Google App: Settings -> Voice -> "OK Google" Detection -> From Any Screen: Enabled. When prompted, train the voice model.

• Although "OK Google" now works as a wake-word from any screen, it doesn't follow commands. Instead all it does is search the web for whatever you said. It never speaks aloud either.

• Since there was no Google Assistant app on the home screen, I installed that tiny GA launcher app that someone posted in this topic. But launching it eventually yields: "The Google Assistant isn't available on this device. There are a few things your device needs to use the Google Assistant."

Perhaps steps like the above would work on the HD 8 and 10, but not the Fire 7. I haven't yet tried it on an HD 8 because Google Assistant already works there, albeit without "OK Google" detection.

Any advice would be much appreciated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
So I got Google assistant working on the latest version of the Google App. You will have to uninstall/delete it though.

1. If you downloaded the Google App as an APK, and made it a system app in /system/priv-app, go to settings > apps and games > manage all apps > swipe left to all apps > scroll to Google App and clear ALL data in it. Then navigate to the priv-app folder and delete the Google App folder and it's contents.

2. Navigate to /data/app and make sure to delete any folders related to com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox

3. Reboot your tablet.

4. Go to the play store and download the Google App (making sure you are signed up for the beta version).

4. Once installed, navigate to /data/app and move the com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox folder to /system/priv-app and reboot.

6. Set up your Google App and Assistant should be good to go.

I think the issues was: The folder in /data/app contains the Google App base.apk and a library folder. You need the library folder. When we downloaded and installed the APK, even if we made a folder for the Google App, it wouldn't create or download it's library, even as as a system app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] sensboston:
Haven't visited this forum for a long time (my family pretty happy with new, latest FHD8s bought for $20 on the latest Amazon sale - I've got two of 'em - nobody can beat this price/quality). But I've got funny how people are trying to get rid from Amazon "bloatware" just to install Google's "bloatware" :D :D

P.S. [MENTION=8165603]DragonFire1024[/MENTION], nothing personal, you're doing a great job as an explorer and "white hat".
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
I own several Amazon tablets. It has nothing to do with favoring one over the other. I do the same things to several other products I own. I'm in it for fun and problem solving. Maybe I'll find an exploit or vulnerability on the way. For me it's about what makes a device operate better whether or not it's Google or Amazon or anything else.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Also, I give it to Amazon...on the HD 10, the display really is amazing. In fact most of the hardware is pretty amazing. It's fast in all respects (even when 'bloated'). Their settings mess up the wifi pretty good but I've worked around that really well. $150 really is a good price because they could easily charge a lot more. If you look at a lot of my 'hacks' you see most are related to improving the services they already have in place. It literally is a matter of finding the switch and making it visible and usable. If the graphical interface changes, that's all stock. I've done no visual customizations or hacks. I've just made these things run a lot better.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Supersonic27543:
:laugh: Even though both are bloatware, Google stuff "looks" more "polished" out and usual for the most.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
I get more of a kick out of the fact I can easily replace Amazon's software with Google's and just how easy it is. This is all about fun for me and making everyone's device work better for them. Nothing more nothing less. as I said before if I come across other things in the process then awesome. I have no intentions of doing any other kinds of customisation in terms of visual aspects. There's plenty of Xposed modules that do that for you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
Yeah- the HD10's are impressive. Easy to root and with apps like App2SD being able to have Swap RAM, they are really fast. I've seen complaints about them in the comments of AFTVnews every so often which I don't understand, especially since you can get them for $100 on sale.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] tylerhole:
Apparently those complaining haven't been reading through the HD 10 forum here for all the ways to make it better, lol.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dondraper23:
When I comment, I always provide a link to this forum
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] tylerhole:
Nice [emoji1303]
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] haiti525:
I have followed the procedure in the first post exactly, and I'm experiencing the following problem:

Pressing the microphone button in the launcher quick search box, or in Chrome or in the Play Store results in the tablet starting to listen, but then it stops listening before there is time to say more than one word. If you do manage to say a full word before it stops listening, no text is created in the search box.

I do not need or want full assistant, I'd be completely happy with just having voice search in Chrome / Play Store

My Fire HD 10 (2017) is rooted via the process described in Retyre's post in this forum, and the tablet was never, ever connected to Amazon or an amazon account (This Fire is not registered under My Account) - I don't need or want to connect to Amazon. Alexa was never active, so she was already at 0 in Settings Database Editor. Fire OS version is 5.6.0.1.

I have no idea how or where to start troubleshooting this. Can anyone offer some suggestions??
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
Do you have Nova launcher installed? If so make sure the ok Google option is enabled in Nova settings and also in accessibility settings in the tablet. Also make sure the 'assistant' setting is added to secure settings. Also you have to uninstall/delete the 'unified search' apk.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Letitride:
Using & opening the Settings Editor as described in post #1 - one of the following line might not be there

voice_recognition_service or

voice_interaction_service

Thus, there is nothing to edit ... what I did, scroll up to the top, add the new line for it (missing one) - then, add the value (used ADB for mine), i.e.

adb shell settings put secure voice_interaction_service com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox/com.google.android.voiceinteraction.GsaVoiceInteractionService

Save/exit - continue with other steps, follow the instructions carefully, power cycle/off & restart, etc.

OK Google Now works fine - search & results come up, just not speaking or talking back ... but, I'm happy & pleased with this.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DragonFire1024:
If Nova Launcher is installed then you have to activate it in accessibility settings for most of the sounds to work. but I honestly cannot say I've ever had any problems with the sound.

Edit: perhaps I should replace the OP with the much better guide I wrote for the article. For future reference until I rewrite the OP, this is a bit more clearer https://www.xda-developers.com/replace-alexa-google-assistant-amazon-fire-7-hd-8-hd-10/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] panni:
I've got a particular issue when following the OP: After everything is done, I can't activate Voice Match, no matter which version(s) of gsf/gms/quicksearchbox I use. The activation starts, I get a blank screen, and after a couple of seconds it shows a connection problem.

Everything else works.

I'm on Fire HD 10, 5.3.6.4 (5.6.3.0), rooted (retyre method with SuperSU +busybox).

I've used:

- com.google.android.gsf.login_5.1-1743759-22_minAPI21(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk

- com.google.android.gsf_5.1-1743759-22_minAPI22(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk

- com.google.android.gms_11.5.09_(230-164803921)-11509230_minAPI21(armeabi-v7a)(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk

- com.android.vending_8.3.41.U-all_0_FP_170066753-80834100_minAPI14(armeabi-v7a)(240,320,480dpi)_apkmirror.com.apk

As per your more recently updated article I also tried "com.google.android.gms_11.5.09_(240-164803921)-11509240_minAPI21(arm64-v8a,armeabi-v7a)(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk" to no avail.

I tried "Google_8.13.12.21.arm.apk", which was posted as working a couple of pages ago, as well.

Is it absolutely necessary to install exactly the old versions listed in your article?

Any ideas? I've searched everywhere.

Thank you!