yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] GingaB:
Wow looks great. What phone do you have and what is your setting?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] naxo_n5530:
Settings

What settings do you have? Could you send me captures, please?

Regards
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] raj.ayush78:
Such great dynamic range with gcam compared to stock and much more sharper photo. Takes every colour much more accrately. Love it. Gf reat work miniuser123.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] reycosare:
Parsing problem when installing on my galaxy s8 oreo exynos version. Any fix? Please
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] PreemPalver:
It doesn't work anymore for me after I've updated to oreo. Just a black screen.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] zain720:
Redownload the APK and uninstall previous versions, if there is one.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] miniuser123:
I think Pixel 2017 config will be the main one with ZSL hdr+ replacing the rather useless auto hdr+ mode. I planned to release it today, but just found a little bug with tap to focus...

Other than this stuff like advanced denoise settings, save portrait shots to same folder etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Reza7612:
Dxomark score

I think if dxomark test your ported camera in s7 edge. The score will be higher than 100 in photography. Thank you very much .:good:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Pavamarea:
S7 Edge, Android 7. My settings i saw here in this topic. I will edit my post.

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I will edit my post with more info.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Pavamarea:
Model > Galaxy s7 edge exynos Nougat

The "thenoise" option I change according the luminosity, in night scene i increase this value. These are the settings used in the photo posted by me a few posts.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] sumbeam:
Fantastic! I was going to ask for the possibility of saving all the pics in the same folder...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] oraned:
new Version??

When a new version came out Google Camera with working portrait mode V8??
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] GingaB:
Never ask for updates. XDA rules clearly states that. Just be patient it will come when the OP is ready...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Pavamarea:
Portrait mode is working for a long time.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] reycosare:
I did it already still parsing error. Any solutions please
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pogi.paul0119:
Use different browser
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] rippedwarrior69:
Any way to remove the empty black under the shutter button? I'm on at&t note 8 Android 7.1.2 and I like the navbar disabled. But it leaves a empty black space. Other then that it perfect. I like it better then stock note 8 camera. Just needs to use both cameras.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] dabuendia:
Back Camera not working on portrait mode // S7 Edge Exynos.

Thank you !! you are awesome! but ...

My back camera still NOT working on my S7 edge - Exynos. Android 7. Please help :crying::crying: Im running V7 right know
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Onepunchbro:
bro. I think I read that [MENTION=4798833]miniuser123[/MENTION] says that decreasing underexpose multiplier to below 100% will decrease dynamic range and I saw your setting is set to 75%. What do you think?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Din-Ace:
Can someone share best settings for s8 plus exynos..?

Please...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] suraj244:
Hi miniuser123. I'm using this port all the way from V2 and I find this absolutely brilliant! I wanted to know if there's a way for Google camera to save images on SD card.

A few pages back someone suggested of an app called GCam Tool which moves/copies the files . But it's such a pity that you're providing the port for free but still someone wants money for just moving the files.

I enabled move app to SD card in the developer options and moved the Google Camera app to SD card but the images still save on the internal storage.

I am not rooted, so I cannot map the pointer of my root directory to mock SD card as the internal storage.

Please advice.

P.S. I created my xda account just for this thread :P
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Pavamarea:
To be honest, i don't understand completely this underexpose settings. Maybe if i changed the underexpose values in that night photo i would have had an even better result, but I was passing through the street, nor did I think of those values.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] raj.ayush78:
ZSL pixel config??????. Was waiting for this from the start. I think the first port to support ZSL on exynos. This will be the biggest update for gcam, imo. Tysm
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] dbzgts:
The picture quality is already the best. Do we still need any update??

Only low light areas and we can see it is noiser.

https://flic.kr/p/Fh3L1k
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] raj.ayush78:
Why not make the best even better??
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Onepunchbro:
In good day, from my extensive testing I can say gcam beats stock samsung cam most of the time.

But in low light, even after trying various configs, the samsung cam always produce brighter photos than noisy gcam. One thing I notice is samsung cam can capture photos sharp even at 1/10 and 1/4 (rarely) and max iso 1250.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] edcs93:
All the photos are taken by GCam without effects?

What are your configurantion?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] dbzgts:
Yup, it is untouched and not edited. But you need more light to get a good result. Maybe you can try to take a selfie near windows in daylight.

Only change few things.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] edcs93:
The configuration are the same here. But I can not have the same focus like your bird's photo.

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Why do you increase i decrease the values? I do not know what this option does

Até que enfim um brasileiro aqui rs
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Red Lava 60:
The bird is not by phone... only the selfie was by phone(from checking the EXIF)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] dbzgts:
Yup, the bird photos was taken with my canon.. LOL

But the selfie photos is better than my bird photos,right? ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] masdacheri:
Buy telephoto zoom lens for u phone to catch far object with depth of field subject (blur)

If u want calibration noise with denoise and underexposer values try taking a picture in a dark room
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Vscoiskindacool:
Wow, Pixel 2017 config working on Exynos! This is some amazing work, I couldn't have guessed we would be seeing this much improvements from the very first versions you released!

Great job, miniuser123!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] edwardsiow:
hi, may I know should I enable smart burst? what is the purpose of smart burst? thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] silicij:
Did I missed new version?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] 7UIS:
I have also an Exynos Samsung - S7 edge (SM-G935F) - but when I use the model as "Pixel II" or "Pixel II XL" (this means it's the 2017 models as you're saying) and then, using any of those models, when I take a picture at daytime inside a room with a window appearing on the photo, allowing some of the sunlight to enter by it, then, suddenly a pink shadow appears on that zone that sunlight is allowed to enter. This occurs just after image processing.

So, this also happens to you? Despite this, there isn't any other issue when using one of those two models?

P.S.: I'm not judging you, or what you have said earlier, but I'd like to know if you face the same issues as I do, as your phone is also an Exynos Samsung but mine's a S7 edge. . .What's your? And in case you don't face these issues, can you provide the settings you are using that made Google Camera able to work with any of the 2017 Pixel devices?

Thank you for your time and patience reading this. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Vscoiskindacool:
I was referring to the fact that miniuser123 stated that on the next version, the Pixel 2017 ZSL config (not model) will be working on our Exynos phones.

However, I don't face any of the issues you described here when using the current version on my S8+. I use Pixel 2 XL as model and Nexus 6 Auto as the config.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] utsavar:
Here you go.

https://files.fm/u/9m36d6dx

It's the pro version of GCam Tool.

P.S. This kind of apps are very easy to make. I will make one for you guys If V8 won't have option similar to this app. (I'm just lazy :silly:).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] miniuser123:
V8

V8 is out. Please read changelog and bug list in OP.

If you find the new Pixel config too unstable, feel free to switch back to Nexus config, it should work as before.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] suraj244:
Thanks buddy :) I appreciate your effort and reply. With a little R&D I've found the GCam Tool mod V1.06 which supports SD card as well!

Since I'm still new to XDA, I'm unable to post links to the file and the virustotal scan!

For anyone who wants the apk, do send me a message and I'll share the app along with the scans from virustotal. Cheers :)

Or perhaps someone can post on my behalf for now:D
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] rajarshi10:
Thank you for this version. However, if I use your settings the camera gets stuck and doesn't move on Exynos S8 Oreo, then we restart and the same thing happens. Basically, it's unusable. V7 did not have this problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Vscoiskindacool:
True, it's also freezing up in my device after 2 or 3 seconds. I was able to use it once, and it seemed very good, not locking up after every shot to process, etc, also with the ZSL working well! Unfortunately, it was a one time thing, and it went back to not working properly haha

Any way we could help you solve this? With logs etc

Thanks for your work!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] thavishalovesme:
Best. Update. Ever! Thanks a lot [MENTION=4798833]miniuser123[/MENTION]... working fine on my S7exynos! Keep up the good work! ??
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Misch94:
Getting a fatal error when opening the portrait mode on V8 on my S8 Exynos. Doesn't matter if front or back cam.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] raj.ayush78:
ZSL mode not working/freezing on s8 exynos. Also the front camera potrait now produces much more noise than v7 even on nexus 6 auto. V7 front cam was very good.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] suraj244:
I had to disable camera.use_photos to view images within Google camera app. I did perform a clean install and cleared cache and data, open settings and force close to get the default settings.

Is there anything I'm doing wrong? Using Galaxy S7 Exynos.

Other than that I think V8 is a brilliant upgrade over V7! Cheers for the good work :D
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] lazylord2016:
Portrait mode is not working since V7 on rear Camera, even on the V8. it only zoom in on the object. Front camera working fine. Using Samsung galaxy s7.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] oraned:
settings and noises

What are the best settings and noises that I've seen a lot of settings in v8??
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] dbzgts:
Perfect... the color reproduction is more natural than v7 and the photo get more details. Good job for the dev. Thanks a lot for your hard work

https://flic.kr/p/24XvSZv
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] raj.ayush78:
I changed the front tuning to pixel II xl. The nexu 5x one is perfect just like the v7. But, kindly look into the ZSL on s8 exynos plzz.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] wk123:
Thank you for the new version 8!

Running into issue on both v7 and v8 with video mode. When recording video, the audio plays first showing the initial screen, then the rest of the video plays.

Have you seen that?

Thank you in advance!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pogi.paul0119:
Thanks ..got is sorted out.. now working really well on s8 oreo exynos.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] oraned:
hdr in oreo

why in oreo the hdr processing so Slow??
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Vscoiskindacool:
Mine is still freezing up... Mind sharing what you did?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] raj.ayush78:
Plz tell what u did for ZSL
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] scaschera:
V8 works great on A5 2017 with pixel 2017 processing, good job?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] nvrmndryo:
It still creates new folder for portrait.

** ignore, miniuser already gave this option in V8.

Thanks [MENTION=4798833]miniuser123[/MENTION]
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pogi.paul0119:
Just changed pixel 2 to nexus auto....
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] oraned:
why in oreo the hdr processing so Slow??

why in oreo the hdr processing so Slow??
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] raj.ayush78:
Thats not ZSL. The pixel option is the new one. Not working on s8 exynos
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] meloalain:
Thank you very much for your work sir. If I had a credit card I would have donated something. Nevertheless, am very grateful for you grate job.

Am not good at setting up this app for my s7 exynos. Please can I have the config you think it's the best for you? Thanks

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Bro please can I have your configuration?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] yogacrypto:
my I know your setting screenshot ,, I have A8 2018, I use v4 already, it works with pink portrait photos result

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] OnimushaPooh:
is that the set lens blur to 12m make any diff on portrait mode?

thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Gaurav k21:
Yes for me it differs a lot from 5MP and application is also quite Stable without any crashes even after enabling Front Camera HDR+ ☺
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] OnimushaPooh:
Wow Cool
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] adam.nephin:
I am unable to take videos with V3. Does anyone else have this issue?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Justiz5533:
I only know, that switching to 60fps forces my Phone to reboot but in general video recording doesnt work for me either
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Hasan4390:
How to get rid of the purple background, anything white turns into purple in my GS7 Exynos...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] miniuser123:
V4

V4 is out. Please read OP carefully. Front cam hdr+ for S7, low noise in HDR+...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] eruanii:
Myyy. That slow shutter function is amazing!!! Using s8 plus
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] salim0786:
Works the same on S8 but on v3, it crashed sometimes. Hope v4 fixes that......... thnks a lot [MENTION=4798833]miniuser123[/MENTION] for this mod :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] paolomanalo21:
Great v4 update! The non portrait front cam photos are amazing in slow shutter!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] xantrk:
Amazing work dude. Thanks so much!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] adam.nephin:
Mine still doesn't work with the setting:

"Config camera HDR+: Nexus 6 hdr+ Auto"

The only setting that works is AUTO otherwise camera screen just stays black. Has anyone else had this issue?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] conan724:
Portrait goes wrong

The coming out portrait photo was not like when I take it. the center (usually my face) is moved down to the left. This only happen with the rear camera.

My phone is Snapdragon S7.

Anyone got this issue?

[IMG="screenshot"]https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4765/39806443712_26e8f36410_k.jpg[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] UXELLR:
Great work with v4. The slow shutter really decreases noise.

1. Would it be possible to have this option as a toggle in the viewfinder(like flash icon) ?

One thing I like about Gcam vs stock is the fast shutter for capturing movement indoor, like kids and people at a party.

I can ofcourse go to settings manually in those scenarios.

2. There is som issue with every port of this app, not just your version. Sometimes in direct light on front and back there is a pronounced halo/circle/rainbow effect at edges(see added pic from front cam). Do you think this is fixable?

S8.Nougat.Exynos.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] miniuser123:
No such problem on exynos s7.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] thavishalovesme:
Amazing work.. thanks a lot Dev ☺
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] adam.nephin:
Portrait mode, slowmo, and video recording still not working on my Exynos S7.

That being said, I do appreciate the hard work Dev.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] miniuser123:
1. Of course a good idea, difficulty level is unknown atm.

2. I saw that. Strangely it went away when I totally disabled manual shutter adjustment in HDR+ mode. Perhaps I could add a 3rd shutter mode, which uses stock camera2 auto-exposure, but that mode could have side effects too.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] UXELLR:
Thanks for answers: ) I have a feeling sometimes the HDR tries to "hard". There were also issues with the orginal Pixel phones with Halos that were fixed by software. I'm not sure this is the same thing. Probably not.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] KidSpartan:
I have a S7 flat, exynos version. I tried to turn on HDR+ for the front cam with the fix on v.4

How can you know if it is turned on or not? When I switch to the front cam (not portrait mode), I don't see the HDR+ toggle on the top bar like I do when I am using the rear cam (non-portrait mode). When I use the rear cam, I can clearly see the HDR+ toggle.

Otherwise, great work, dev! You are amazing! Keep up the good work!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] thavishalovesme:
For the 100th time, portrait mode only works on human not objects. Geez! Why are people so dumb nowadays?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] sumbeam:
Mine too...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] maderos:
For S8 exy choose Nexus 6 hdr config.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] sumbeam:
It worked!

But now, all the pics taken with the front camera are purplish...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] masdacheri:
Setup v8..hdr parameter : pixel 2017...config : pixel 2017..if got freezing or error change to hdr parameter : default, high, very high config change to Nexus 6 auto hdr..other setup delete folder n no zoom for portrait.. for calibration noise wait on night test
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] abdullah10_____:
Not able to install this version

When i download it says, error parsing the package. What should i do to install it .Btw i own a S8+ oreo exynos
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] maderos:
Download from google disc to your phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] AlexOptimal:
What should I set the custom noise scale and offset to if I want the most crisp image? I want as little denoisng as possible. Should I turn it higher or lower to achieve this? [MENTION=4798833]miniuser123[/MENTION]
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] scaschera:
Just posted my setting in other post

https://xdaforums.com/samsung-a-series-2017/how-to/google-camera-port-t3700724/page6#post75801461
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] masdacheri:
Set to 5-10 value
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] ehmjay1628:
v8 working fine. only problem is pink color on front cam on my s7 edge. help pls.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] dbzgts:
You can view my settings a few page back. In this new v8, I didn't change anything. Are you using note 8 exynos,too?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] raj.ayush78:
Nexus 6 config worked from the beginning. V8 introduces pixel config with ZSL to take quick photos. But, the pixel config is freezing on S8 exynos for some reason. So, choosing the nexus config will give the exact same photo as v7. No improvemnts in speed or colour.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] dbzgts:
you can view my settings a few page backward. But in this new v8, I didnt change anything. It is preset settings.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] masdacheri:
Yup i think crash with ZSL
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] meloalain:
No sorry I have an s7 exynos

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Just set the auto exposure to 'slow shutter' then reboot your device
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] miniuser123:
Enter settings, force close, after that correct settings will be applied. I assume that you haven't touched any of the Advanced front cam settings.

The problem is that the camera is initialized before default settings are applied.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] abdullah10_____:
Explain me clearly plz
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] mh7:
Hi

Im trying to install the new ver.8

But I got this error

I uninstall led the old ver.

Also made reboot

But nothing work

Any one faced that???

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] maderos:
If you click google disc link, it saves file but it's a problem with autoinstall. You have to check that file in your google disc and click download. Then instalation is ok.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] abdullah10_____:
Thnks bro.This worked for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] miniuser123:
I would rather lower Luma denoise params. In a fairly well lit room up to ISO 200 "Custom Luma denoise good light" set to 0.05 gave me very sharp results on back cam with ZSL mode. If it doesn't help, decrease medium light or low light values too. Enable "Apply custom denoise params" and "Tuning master switch". Unfortunately at higher ISO this resulted in too much noise for me, so I am on default settings at the moment...

Regarding noise scale and offset lower values mean less denoising. Only "a" values seem to have an effect.

Front cam is less sensitive to these denoise settings, I can hardly see a difference.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] PreemPalver:
Adding this just to report that on Oreo the new v8 pixel config for HDR+ is too unstable and causes freezing whenever I change any settings, even "initial zoom on portrait".

Nexus 6 settings seem to work just fine. Thanks [MENTION=4798833]miniuser123[/MENTION]
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Theking haha:
It seems it cant process foliage really well at night compare to stock camera on v8 google cam,the foliage is very blurry. For videos the words of things are not processed correctly resulting in blur.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] silicij:
Every photo is still in its own directory. Should I enable something or..?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] TatteredAttic62:
Hey guys! Am I the only one whose face looks red when taking a selfie? Especially on portrait mode? The sharpness is also too high! You can see the pores on my skin... Has anybody figured this out?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Red Lava 60:
Use beauty mode, as for the red i am not sure i am on s7 exynos and it is working fine for me
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] TatteredAttic62:
It's already on! Dunno maybe it's because I'm on s8 plus exynos!! Thanks for your reply anyways!!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Red Lava 60:
Not sure, but beauty mode on my s7 works good, removes a bit of the pores, tho on s7 the stock front camera is not even 30% good as compared to this, not sure if the same about s8, try playing with the hdr models maybe?