yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kjb86:
Does anyone know why I can't make the registry change?

All I get is a "access denied error"

And if I use the .net configuration it won't even allow me to apply the settings either.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] garfield2412:
confirming

hi,

confirming that my device has gained a little bit on its speed.

it looks like the apps and the whole ppc shows everything smoother. (HTC Kaiser)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] victoradjei:
use the cab file on post number 1 :cool:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kjb86:
I did use it.

The Cab posted doesn't allow me to change the settings.

So after manually trying to change the registry, I get the access denied error.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jwy2k2:
Are those skTools tests really applicable to this?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ya Boi D:
If It Doesn't Work ??

If you uninstall the cab, will all changes revert back to the original? Registry settings & all ?:confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ya Boi D:
Anyone ??????????
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jembot:
Revert to .NET 2.0 Settings

Haven't tried to uninstall it yet. But just to be sure, use the .NET CF Configuration Tool and set the value in the <Device Policy> Tab to "Default" (the original value)..Or the "2.0.6129" just to make sure it uses the 2.0 version. Then proceed to uninstall.

Hope this helps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ya Boi D:
Thanks for the advice.:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mugglesquop:
just installed on my T-Mobile MDA Compact III (HTC Artemis) noticed a small improvement on speed, but for a 6mb install (and only having 12mb to install to, even with very few apps) i'm wondering if its worth it...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tmknight:
what tool are you using to access the registry? I recommend total commander or fdcsoft task manager.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tmknight:
I have to agree with the original premise of this thread. My Treo seems to be a tad faster (at least more consistent performance) and I feel I am seeing much better memory management. For example I've been demoing the NetFront browser and frequently get memory errors opeing full pages such as CNN or USA Today, then upon closing the browser still having only 6-7mb of free app space (bad leak). The browsing performance is much better, yet to have an error. And I am seeing more memory freed at application close.

Good catch to all who contributed to this find?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dschoenike:
running it on my sprint mogul, and things feel snappier. And like tmknight posted, memory management has improved. Nice work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KukurikU:
Microsoft says:

Q: Which versions of the device OS are supported by NETCF 3.5?

A: Windows Mobile 2003 For Pocket PC (both first and second editions), Windows Mobile 5.0 (all flavors), Windows Mobile 6 (all flavors), Windows CE 4.2 (AKA Windows CE .Net), Windows CE 5.0, Windows Embedded CE 6. Windows CE is a customizable OS and must include NETCF V 3.5 dependencies in order to run NETCF V 3.5. Contact your device OEM to find out if particular OS has them.

Q: What is the size of NETCF V 3.5 on device? Can I install NETCF V 3.5 on to storage card to save space?

A: NETCF V3.5 needs about 6.5 MB of storage space (depends on the device). NETCF V3.5 can be installed on to the storage card. About 1.2 MB (depends on device) is required on the main storage for that configuration, rest would be located on the storage card.

Q: I have other versions of NETCF installed (or in ROM). Do I have to remove them in order to install NETCF V3.5?

A: There’s no need to uninstall previous versions as NETCF V3.5 is side by side with older version. However one might choose to uninstall previous versions in order to save storage space on devices. Note you cannot uninstall NETCF version which is located in ROM nor would it save any storage space (because ROM versions are located in ROM and not in the storage).

Q: After NETCF V3.5 is installed, will older application automatically use it?

A: No. Applications would use version of the NETCF they are initially compiled for if this version is available for maximum compatibility. If older version is not available on particular device then application will be promoted to NETCF V 3.5. It is also possible to configure particular application (or all applications) to use NETCF V3.5 automatically. NETCF V3.5 Power Toys includes utility which does that.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KukurikU:
wow! look at my benchmark with the NET CF 2.0.7045.0

Integer;178.6754;Moves/25 usec

Floating point;5.764;MWIPS

RAM access;1636;Speed index

Draw bitmaps;618;Speed index

Main storage (write); 565.17;KB/sec

Main storage (read);3426.66;KB/sec

Storage Card (write); 369.83;KB/sec

Storage Card (read); 978.34;KB/sec

my trinity and ROM 3.1.2. Lite AX3L rules!:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chrisd1a1:
trying this on my windows5, and can see the difference the cube always ran a tad slow. not anymore
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] strifej:
Getting an error at the end of the install telling me to stop all processes and make more storage space. The same error is being seen by users on the Modoco thread.

I have an Elfin (HTC Touch 128/256) running Blue Elves 5 (Windows Mobile 6.1 19521).

45mb free on internal memory.

Any suggestions?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jwy2k2:
:confused: Aren't those skTools tests just testing the speed of read/write and processor and not the real world use of the device? In particular the speed with the netCF? It seems to me that if you test this way you would probably get a slightly slower speed with the netCF3.5 added because you probably have another process running.(?) Wouldn't a better test be to time a program that uses the netCF with each of the the installations. Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] taykh:
Sorry,

Currently using a HTC TCruise, have installed the NetCF3.5. Using Resco, can only see 2.0.7045.00, the other file that can be seen was '(Default)' so how do I go about enabling the 3.5.7283.00 version?

Some advice please, thank you!

Rgds

PDACraze
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mchapman007:
How can I uninstall NETCF 2.0 once 3.5 has been installed? I would like to free up some room...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] seamanzhou:
Thanks very much!

Succeed to update netcf3.5
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sabestian:
I upgraded a week ago, installed properly, cannot see any difference at all. That includes benchmark testing. Nothing changed.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dinny66:
What does this actually do?

Sorry for the noobie questions, but not looking to break my ppc just yet.

I'm looking at ways of speeding up my HERM300 MDA Vario II and came across this thread.

What will this actually do, and why?

How do I go back if it goes wrong?

Can I completely kill the phone if it goes wrong?

Thanks

Mike

MDA Vario II with WM6 on T-Mobile. Uncooked - Jamie Oliver I am not.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jolas:
Unfortunatelly, after 10 days of use, I had to return back to version 2, due to problems with wifi drivers:(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] funny.zhang:
how to integrates it in my rom?

I want free rom.thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dyetheskin:
ok,my rom has 3.5 cooked in but these registry parameters dont exist to change from 1 to 0, etc. any clue or can these be added manually without causing issues? registry screenshots would help too
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
a lot of funny noob nonsens here:

net 3.5 may be faster than 2.0 but it WONT speed your PPC !

only some net apps maybe run faster.

Welcome to the Placebo-effect. hehe.

you better should use batterystatus and overlock you ppcs.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kanjut:
is this for windows 6.1 only? what about wm 6.0?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] flaviopac:
....:D:D:D:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] RadekB:
Thanks

Thanks a lot! It works perfectly on my HTC Kaiser!:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
How exactly would you expect the framework to make your device work faster? It does change your .NET applications speed and quality... but that's it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jorv88:
hope this works:p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bobsbbq:
Installed the cab but when I open net config it locks up. Can't select any tabs I have to soft reset. I also could not get vsbenchmark to run and finally unistalled it.

This on my i780 WM 6.1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sadthai:
i cooked .net into my rom, however, regedit to option 1 from 0. in term of performance, i can not tell, but memory management seem to be a lot better. i boot up at about 22.5mb of memory usage, and usually after using a few apps and exited, my memory usuage go up to 30mb. with the .net registry option changed to 1, my memory remain at 26mb after half of a day of usuage and with all app launched at least twice.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
That has to do with the fact that CF3.5 has a saying when it comes to the apps you run, not directly of your windows mobile.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mxf:
thank you

thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pisca:
Thank you for your tip, working in my Wizard, solved an issue about some memory drain
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wickedsaint:
Great work

Dear Aksd,

Thanks for the tips. it is working fine on my HTC P3400i. I installed the NETCF 3.5 in memory card. will it have any improvement if i install it in Device memory?

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ajbopp:
When I installed NETCF 3.5 PocketMusic and PocketPlayer both stopped giving me a user interface except in Winamp mode, which I despise. Otherwise I just got a blank screen. Ok, restoring from a two week old backup solved that problem.

Then this morning I powered on my device to see a message that Sprite backup had an error and couldn't do it's weekly job. Tried running the job manual but it errored out again. Tried to reinstall but it would not uninstall. Tried uninstalling manually, deleting files and reg entries, but no luck. Something still insisted that Sprite was there. Tried restoring from backup again. Still no luck.

I'm on my way to a hard reset and restoring from my last full backup that's about 4 weeks old.

Um...don't make the same mistake. Stay away from NETCF 3.5.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dan0zone:
so because it didn't work for u everyone should stayaway from it .... GOOD THING YOUR NOT A GOD

NETCF 3.5 will be part of newer windows mobile to come then what buddy ..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mrpiggae:
How odd. I installed and set the registry, then did a soft reset. Before I did the soft reset, battery was at 54%...after the reboot battery was at 19%. wtf? 35% battery loss after a soft reset? When normally a reboot doesn't affect the battery at all?

Strange. The black hole for battery power...I have no idea why it would do that after putting 3.5 on the machine. I'm gonna roll back to 2.0 for now, but was curious if anyone had an idea as to why it did that?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daeshawn:
Nice

Wicked did the reg hack and voala!!!!!!!! super htc touch
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kafro:
Oh nice, this is a great tweak.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ajbopp:
Well, yeah. because it broke my device to a level it had never been broken before, I'd say that at the very least people should be very cautious of it.

Curious thing to flame about...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] veyka:
What device do you have btw? And, some programs have problems with CF3.5, you can change the version they use I think with the tool.

For example YahooGO! Will only run if you have CF2 SP2 installed and set it to use that, otherwise it crashed :)

Your right.. does seem a bit odd to flame, but maybe giving more info might help.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dan0zone:
well if he said be careful n let us kno what version of windows mobile he tried it on ..... that would made more sense the telling everyone to stayaway from it .....works for some people and dont work for u now u kno not to use it on ur device ..... isn't that what this fourm is about????

to this point we still dont kno what he tried it on

THAT WAS WHY ......we need to kno if it wm5,wm6,wm,6.1 and what u device

THANKS BUDDY
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheChampJT:
Why be cautious? There are plenty of ROM's included this version around, including mine! Adding this will not "break" your device, you obviously did something wrong, or are using apps that don't mix well with this. Not sure if it's been updated, but manually changing this is a little different than cooking with it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rumball:
Strange...I just loaded NETCF 3.5 on my Kaiser with WM6.1 and PocketPlayer and Sprite backup work just fine. No problems found what-so-ever after the install.

Menu navigation appears faster too now.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
you sure it's not an illusion? :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] megatec45:
From what I've seen on the MS website, CF 3.5 is still in Beta and there is no official release yet. Have all the bugs been removed from this cooked version?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] moeloo:
When i look at the MS site i get only a vesion of NetCF3.5 that wil install on my pc.

Where can i get one that for my HTC Diamond? Can some one give me a link?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shakespeare:
Sorry, I could not download the .net v3.5..

Can anyone post a direct download link?

Many Thanks..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frederikk:
Edit : Stupid question because i didn't read all the first post...

Ciao

Fred
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] iTouch24:
have people made the registration change on the cdma htc touch pro with success?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] farwaykorse:
This is what I found on the Download Center:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3c6b-42f1-9fd9-0041345b3385&displaylang=en

What is the diverence or better, advantage of this .cab and regedit over this installation Microsoft offers?

Also this page's says, netcf 1.0 & 2.0 programs should work with it. So is this an more extensive version, or are there still programs made for 2.0 that won't run with this?

@megatec45

There is no mentioning of still being in beta (anymore)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] future perfectx:
ok im having a problem making my firmware 3.5. can someone give me more detailed instructions. id be very glad is someone could help me more.

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tsukasai:
I'm newbie here and need help with installing NetCF3.5. Can anyone point out the step please? or a link? my X1 doesn't seem to run the MSI file downloaded from Microsoft website. Any help would be much appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jgemelli:
I had just loaded 3.5 up after adding Advanced Config (it needed CF3.5) now with this change my web pages rock! Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] megatec45:
Follow instructions from post #1

What you need to do:

1. Install NetCF3.5 on your ppc.

2. Open a registry editor, I use Reso Regsitry Editor

3. Goto HKLM\Software\Microsoft\.NETCompactFramework (this is usually the first entry

4. When you open this you'll see all the .NET installed version change the DWORD value of 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0

5. Chang ethe DWORD value of 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1.

6. Reboot

7.Viola! you have a faster PPC

You can also use the free Reg edit from PHM, Google it

Your registry should look like the pic below when finished.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Diplomat2387:
Has anyone tried this on a Touch Pro..?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] huynhc:
i just did and have no clue if it affects performance yet but doesnt seem to have slowed it down any?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Giannis86:
i just tried it on my touch pro..i dont have any benchmarks to prove anything and its by far too early to jump into conclusions..

however im getting the impression that windows menus and folders load up faster..tf3d SEEMS to scroll better too

note that i soft reset often so any possible changes could not be because of a soft reset..

anyway dont get my words for granted, it could be just a feeling :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] HopelesRomantc91:
So, how does setting the default to 3.5 boost performance? On a percent scale, about how much better preformance should I notice?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] d3thstalker:
Really works on ym LG KS20. Its noticably faster. Much much faster. The lag has been completely reduced and it responds immediately. Really cool tweak, recommended to everyone running OEM ROM.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] signde:
as a professional .net developer, from a technical perspective i see no way that this could have any impact on the speed of your device or even .net applications for that matter.

the .net 3.5 framework relies on a common language runtime to work. this is called the CLR.

.net 1.1 uses the 1.1 CLR

.net 2.0 uses the 2.0 CLR

.net 3.0 uses the 2.0 CLR

.net 3.5 uses the 2.0 CLR

they use the same CLR, which is what interprets .net intermediate code into machine language your host computer/operating system (in this case phone and windows mobile) understands.

.net 3.0 and 3.5 added additional libraries, features, and programming constructs, however when you compile a 3.0 or 3.5 application it still compiles into .net 2.0 intermediate (IL) code.

this is all based my knowledge of working with and programming against the regular .net framework, not the compact framework, but microsoft practices and standards should apply equally across all versions of their frameworks. i could be wrong, but i don't really think so.

the only thing i could possibly see is that if microsoft made updates/improvements to their compact 2.0 framework and included this as part of their 3.5 package. that would be the ONLY explanation for any speed improvements, but even then those would only be with applications written in .net which would NOT be any of the native applications on your phone. windows mobile is almost certainly c/c++ and would not benefit from an updated ms .net framework.

my $0.02.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ruudfood:
I installed this but when I checked the registry there is no DWORD entry for 3.5.7283.00. Do I have to add the DWORD entry manually?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] megatec45:
After installing, your registry should display the 2 "D" words below as shown in the attached screen shot. Just open the .net cf folder, nothing else. You shouldn't have to add anything, only change the values. As you can see, this is how it should look after changing to 3.5 as the default
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Glasairmell:
The tip in this thread worked great ... except it disabled my wifi. Darn.

Any work around for this? NETCF V3.5 Power Toys?

Thanks

Mell
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ruudfood:
Hmmm. I wonder why there's no 3.5 entry for me!? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] themirthfulswami:
!!!!

Ok I just did the reg tweak and I do notice a slight performance increase in a couple of apps that I tried.. but the most shocking thing is that it also fixed an annoying issue with VITO's SMS-Chat that's been plaguing me for months now..

I had this wierd thing where I would be using SMS-Chat, and the menu bar at the top would somehow lose it's "on-top" status and the signal status and X buttons would show through from the today screen. If I tried to use the SMS-Chat upper-right hand menu button, it would react as if I'd clicked the OK button instead of showing VITO's menu. After doing this tweak, that doesn't happen anymore. SMS-Chat works as it should (as well as performing slightly better.. the animations seem a bit smoother and the screen redraws after minimizing/maximizing the app are noticeably faster).

EDIT :

Another annoying issue has been fixed for me by this tweak. Previously, when running Opera Mini via JBed, if I changed my screen orientation to landscape, Opera/JBed wouldn't resize itself to fit. It would stay portrait size and run off the bottom of the screen. Now, it resizes itself to fit properly.

This is great! :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] megatec45:
I have the 3.5 installed to my device, if that helps. It might not work properly on a storage card.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ruudfood:
But the installation is done from the PC because it's an MSI, so it can't be installed on a storage card anyway (at least to my knowledge). :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Imyman:
I cant believe I've been on this forum all this while...and I've missed this post!!! :eek: Works like a charm. Thanks man!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] megatec45:
I'm not sure I understand? There is a cab file in post #1 that is downloaded to your PC, you then copy it to your device, click on it, then it asks you if you want to install to Device or Storage, and it installs.:confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tsponge:
H where can I get the NetCF3.5 without having a rapidshare account
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Hammerz:
Here it is a link (CAB FILE)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rdcolga:
here is the install I used

.NET Compact Framework 3.5 Redistributable
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] phantom27-ck:
I installed it and it seemed to work perfectly on my omnia i910. That is, until I tried to use the weather tab on HTC Home. It can't connect to get the weather information from my custom city or even a default one.

I've tried reinstalling everything. (except a hard reset)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] goon55:
hey I installed the cab from the first post, but under my .net config, I still only have 2.0.7045.0 listed. in my HKLM I also only have this version listed. The install of the cab ran fine, but doesnt appear to have actualy worked on my omnia.

In my installed apps, I have listed:

Microsoft .NET CF 2.0 ENU-String...

and

Microsoft .Net Configuration (i believe this is what I just installed)

Any ideas? Thanks everyone
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] excelex:
need a little help here

can some one list me step by step on how to install this NETCF3.5?? i'm a noob... and i'm just afraid to do something wrong with my handset...

i'm using HTC Touch Pro using windows mobile 6.1 ( if i'm not wrong )

sorry if i'm asking too much

thank you
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] megatec45:
Read Post #1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] skydivewags:
Could we get a link to the update .cab file for 3.5 on post #1?

Since this is missing from the post, I think it is confusing many people. I had to read 13 pages of this thread to find a link to what I needed from the start.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xILukasIx:
Wow it makes my Omnia so much faster!

THANK YOU
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scottspa74:
Refer to Kukurikos post on page 7. That should answer your question, unless I misunderstand your intent.