yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G 2014 Android Development] fromerito:
It is worthy to install the rom then? Or should I have to wait?
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
It depends on how important WhatsApp videos and Instagram are for you. Other than these bugs I saw, there's nothing wrong with the ROM, it works just fine.
[G 2014 Android Development] CMKdaGreatest:
Twitter videos work perfectly
[G 2014 Android Development] fromerito:
I have the older version of the pixel experience, the first one actually. Can I install this one without doing wipe? Like an update?
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
From the first build to the latest there was a rebase of the ROM (from AOSP to Lineage Os). I would recommend a clean install. Be aware that Instagram and WhatsApp have some problems with videos...
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
[MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION],

In the 6th release of CypherOS, the changelog states that "Whatsapp/Instagram videos not playing bug fixed".

You're a maintainer for both ROMs.

Can you please provide some info on why this bug is fixed in Cypher and not fixed in PE?

Note that I'm not blaming you for anything, I'm just curious.
[G 2014 Android Development] RenanQueiroz:
It should be also fixed on PE, I didn't include in the changelog because I've never had this issue on PE...

(By the way, I've only tested Instagram and can assure it works just fine, some of my testers were the ones who said WhatsApp was working, I can't test it for myself though.)
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
Renan, I can confirm, WhatsApp videos record but show blank on preview (when you cut the video before posting) and Instagram doesn't open the camera either for videos or photos (both on latest PE build).
[G 2014 Android Development] Cistto:
I have 2 problems with this Rom.

1.-I have 2 alarms and one of them sounds at the indicated time and the second sounds 10 minutes after the program

2.-Whatsapp notifications do not reach me until I wake up the cell phone

how can I solve it
[G 2014 Android Development] Teenzips:
[MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION]

Please, add native night mode
[G 2014 Android Development] RenanQueiroz:
Impossible...

AOSP Night light causes insane lags on Titan, and PE doesn't support LiveDisplay, so...

Not happening.
[G 2014 Android Development] Oshmar:
I use the night mode a lot for my readings on bootleggers and I have no lag.

It varies quite a lot ... I have not read about yet, but I have no idea of the actual functioning of the live display, my screen only reduces and increases brightness, most of the time ... inaccurately.
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
Night light really increases hardware strain, but not to make it unusable (I use it on LOS15, works perfectly), but with a black theme it becomes less necessary. Most apps I use (including XDA) have a "dark mode" that makes up for it.

Anyway, there are more pressing matters, like the instagram problems.
[G 2014 Android Development] Oshmar:
For me it's indifferent, Live display is a feature that I always leave disabled, it does not help me at all. On the other hand I only use night mode for readings, I do not use for apps like social networks ... only in Google Books, and it does not have a dark theme, so I always prioritize those that have this feature, I have some good books to read.:cool:
[G 2014 Android Development] coolshesh40@gmail.com:
can i ?

Hey developers i just wanted to ask is it good to use if i flash it ? i mean it doesnt cause any major problems like i am just a day to day cellphone useage kinda guy ...reply ASAP thanks
[G 2014 Android Development] Oshmar:
Can install, no problem.

Do not forget to have twrp updated.:good:
[G 2014 Android Development] raulshma:
Camera in Instagram does not work, Instagram videos do not play and WhatsApp videos in status play sometimes but chat videos does not in the app.
[G 2014 Android Development] t334go:
Yeah, I have the same issues and it has been mentioned already, so surely the dev is aware. Hopefully he will do something about it, although he has stated before that this would be one build for quite some time now.
[G 2014 Android Development] tejasrao1996:
[MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION]:

AOSP-CAF 8.1 for Moto G 2014 (TITAN)

Pros:

- Fastest Oreo ROM I've ever seen

Cons:

- HDR broken and SELinux Permissive

Download: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=5862345805528049539
[G 2014 Android Development] CodeDroid:
For some reason I can't set a wallpaper with Backdrops with this ROM. Everytime I try to do so it tells me there isn't any app available that can apply the wallpaper.
[G 2014 Android Development] CMKdaGreatest:
Who built it? You or Renan?
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
[MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION], is this a one-time build or you are going to resurrect AOSP-CAF for Oreo?
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
He made it clear this won't be a regular build like he's doing with the other ROMs, and it won't be supported by him.
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
It's a shame because AOSP-CAF is probably the closest to the vanilla Android in terms of codebase so it should potentially be the fastest one. However, we have to respect his decision.
[G 2014 Android Development] tejasrao1996:
True. Its almost pure vanilla.

Renen spent almost a week making this build. He resurrected titan in someway, getting Oreo for Titan plus making the build so smooth that it works sometimes even better than Nougat.
[G 2014 Android Development] RenanQueiroz:
And exactly because it is the closest to vanilla Android, it gets the least number of users... Go figure...

Most people nowadays only care about customizations, and not stability...
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
What he's done was deemed impossible by previous devs... Renan deserves our utmost respect and appreciation for that. He and the devs that are working on roms for Titan are all great guys! Remember, they have PayPal accounts too! ;) :D
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
Sad but true. People want all the bells and whistles on a device from 2014 with an old CPU and 1 GB of RAM and then complaint that there are lags and freezes.

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[MENTION=7328084]tejasrao1996[/MENTION]

Have you found any more bugs? Does offline charging work?
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
Agreed with the first part.

About your question, I believe it's charging offline since Renan didn't mention it on the buglist.
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
Well I haven't seen a topic or post with release notes for the AOSP-CAF 8.1 by Renan. Can you please point me to one?
[G 2014 Android Development] t334go:
Well, I believe he only posted it on G+, even on his website I haven't seen a mention to that. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway here's the link: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+RenanQueirozRRQ
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
Thank you!

I guess there is no point to try this ROM then because it will be neither updated nor supported.
[G 2014 Android Development] tejasrao1996:
I didn't check offline charging since I don't use it. I haven't found any bugs.

Renan said there is a BT bug, but since I don't use it, it doesn't matter to me.

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What reason is that? And why to update it? It has zero bugs plus it's pure vanilla. So it'll remain the same. There is no need to update it when everything is working.
[G 2014 Android Development] Oshmar:
It is interesting some customizations, as long as it is not in excess. ROMs like: Toxyc and Bootleggers have customizations in the right measure.

Few ROMs can have lots of customization options without seriously compromising stability, AEX, dotOS, and RR are the biggest examples of this.

It is preferable and smarter to find and use a ROM with the features that are useful to it, than to use one that does not have such features and to be hammering the developer's head all the time to add a feature you want.
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
It has at least three bugs. Two of them are common for all current Oreo ROMs: HDR is not working in the Moto Camera and SELinux is permissive. Moreover, you also mentioned some BT bug.

In my book, this is far from "zero bugs".
[MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION] I do apologize for discussing the AOSP-CAF build in the thread dedicated for the official PE build, and will stop as soon as you tell me to.

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There are many apps that make it possible to customize your ROM.

Just a couple of examples:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.msfjarvis.substweaks

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.simonesestito.ntiles

The advantage of using apps for customization is that if an app is misbehaving, you can safely uninstall it.

If a ROM is misbehaving because of the added customizations, then you have to wait for a new build or move to another ROM, which takes a lot of time and effort.
[G 2014 Android Development] teco10:
Hello!

I've been using Aosp - Caf since Renan made the download available.

In my opinion, of all that I have tested, it is the best rom Oreo I have ever installed in MY titan.

Too fast, I did not find any bug or lag important, except those mentioned, as Hdr I do not care, and offline loading much less, this rom is excellent and look I like to customize, but she is too beautiful for my taste.

Note: I'm sorry to be speaking about this rom in the Pixel Experience forum, but as mentioned above, I decided to express my opinion.

Congratulations [MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION] Warrior!!

Hugs.
[G 2014 Android Development] RenanQueiroz:
It's alright, I allow OT on my threads.

I'm glad you liked it! I'll release a new build with Bluetooth fixed soon, since it doesn't seem to work right now.
[G 2014 Android Development] CodeDroid:
[MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION] Any idea what causes random freezes and force closes in apps such as browsers and social media apps? It happens to me regularly in this ROM as well as with Cypher and pretty much every Oreo ROM I've tried so far. No issues on Nougat however. Can't seem to figure out what's causing it despite trying alot of things.
[G 2014 Android Development] RenanQueiroz:
Take a log...
[G 2014 Android Development] thatboy18:
Is the quick toggle for ring, silent, vibrate gone? It used to be in May-ish build? Can't find it anywhere.
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
[MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION]

That is great news!

PS is there any chance that you might consider updating your previous AOSP-CAF [OMS][TITAN][UBERTC][STABLE] build with the latest security patches? According to [MENTION=7775840]sapo_joe[/MENTION], it's the fastest Nougat ROM available. And with the latest security patch, it could be a perfect daily driver until Oreo ROMs become mature.
[G 2014 Android Development] RenanQueiroz:
Not happening, I already got my hands full with Oreo.
[G 2014 Android Development] Oshmar:
[MENTION=279777]m00nlighter[/MENTION] I did not refer to customizations in aesthetic question, what's more, if you have something that I think ridiculous is spruce the peacock.

I say in relation to productivity, something really useful, like color engine, or at least a dark theme, or simply actions in the navigation bar and status, something like that.

If there are roms with such stable and available features, I see no reason to use an extremely crude rom and install applications to get what some already have by default.
[G 2014 Android Development] CodeDroid:
Here is a log during which my web browser froze twice.
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
My work is closely related to software development (I'm not a developer myself but I happen to have lots of hands-on knowledge about the process).

I can surely say that EVERY added feature alone is a potential bug source. Moreover, combinations of new features are also potential bug sources.

Less features = less potential bugs = less bugs in the released version. This is the way it works in the real life :)

You know why stock ROMs are mostly stable? Because testers spend hundreds of hours testing them.

Nobody will spend that much time testing custom ROMs. Because of this, I have always preferred clean custom ROMs.

Of course this is my personal opinion, if you like a lot of customizations - it's your choice.
[G 2014 Android Development] Oshmar:
Like I said, I'm not a fan of dressing peacocks.

Some actions are in fact interesting, and very useful, well, there are a range of roms for all tastes, the dotOS for example is the fastest I have ever installed and very stable, so my daily drive, I have tested all, the fact a rom being raw does not mean it has more stability or better performance than another, this can only be proven in using, anything besides is theory. ;)
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
Well then I'll wait for the updated AOSP-CAF Oreo build with working Bluetooth. It would also be great to disable ZRAM as well if it's not disabled already :)
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
The oreo aosp caf ROM is almost as fast as that nougat version and is updated to the latest patches.

Makes no sense to work on nougat anymore.

Zram is already disabled, since Renan used the same tree as his other latest ROMs. I checked that.

Now if you want a more mature Oreo ROM with no bugs, go for his latest LineageOs 15.1. It's as fast as its nougat version, and bugfree, disabled zram, offline charging, all the good stuff included on a relatively pure aosp ROM.
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
Thank you for the suggestion. I'm thinking about it.

Can you uninstall all the LineageOS proprietary apps by cleaning them from /system/apps (or whatever path it is) before installing OpenGapps (pico or nano, I've not decided yet)? I need as much space available on the system partition as possible because I'll be moving some apps from data partition to system partition.
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
You can do that with the twrp file manager. Flash the ROM, clean the apps you don't want deleting them fom system/apps and priv/apps and flash the gapps. Pico is OK if you don't care about google now feed. Be careful when deleting apps integrated with the system like launcher, keyboard, etc...
[G 2014 Android Development] Oshmar:
It can also flash the mod created by Vegadata, the Lineage apps remover.
[G 2014 Android Development] Wolfcity:
Or you can use a gapps config file.

https://github.com/opengapps/opengapps/wiki/Advanced-Features-and-Options
[G 2014 Android Development] teco10:
Hello! [MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION] I do not know if they informed you, but if so, sorry to be informing me again.

I noticed in Aosp - Caf 8.1 that the videos and gifs in whatsapp are not working, and saw in another forum that this is also happening in the Pixel Experience.

If arranged we would be very grateful Brother.

Hugs Warrior.
[G 2014 Android Development] RenanQueiroz:
This is supposed to have already been fixed.

Get a log during the problem so I can see what's happening
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
Didn't test o AOSP Caf, but on pixel experience both WhatsApp and Instagram have problems with the camera. Instagram simply doesn't access the camera.
[G 2014 Android Development] CodeDroid:
WhatsApp videos and gifs are working just fine for me here on latest version of PE.
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
This is interesting. Have you installed WhatsApp from Google Play of from a standalone APK file?
[G 2014 Android Development] teco10:
So, I'm using Aosp - Caf 8.1. I noticed this, and I joined a forum that Thedeadfish59 opened for these discussions and I saw some commenting on it in the Pixel experience, so I took it to Renan.

I have installed Whatsapp by the play store, and this is happening, so I can watch it, I have to go to the gallery because it does not work there.

[MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION], I'm kinda new in this system stuff, I still do not know how to get the Log of this error, I'll see how it does and if I can get there, ok ok.

Hugs!
[G 2014 Android Development] CodeDroid:
Installed it from the Play Store and it's been working flawlessly.

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Read this to learn how to take a logcat.
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
[MENTION=7775840]sapo_joe[/MENTION]

Have you installed WhatsApp and Instagram anew or restored these apps from a previous backup?

I'm just trying to find the root cause of issues here, because I need a fully featured WhatsApp (it's a must have app) and Instagram (it's a nice to have app).
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
All new from playstore. I don't use Titanium backup or a similar app.
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
Well judging by the info on Google Play

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.whatsapp

WhatsApp was updated on July 16, 2018.

There MIGHT be version-related issues because WhatsApp is working on other people's devices. This requires further research.

Guys, can you please report your versions of WhatsApp?
[G 2014 Android Development] t334go:
Mine is 2.18.203, installed from playstore. I have wondered too if this is an issue with WhatsApp itself because I got the same problems with other roms like bootleggers for instance. But that doesn't explain Instagram issues, so I don't know.

Honestly, I don't even care anymore. PE is the best rom for me, I always come back after testing any other. Obviously I'd love everything working, but running stuff from the gallery or file explorer is not a big deal for having such a good rom in my hands.
[G 2014 Android Development] teco10:
Thanks man for the tip!

Arriving at home I will read and see how it does and then can get to Renan my problem Blz.

hug.
[G 2014 Android Development] teco10:
Hello!

Staff really do not know what happens, I had reported yesterday that the videos and Gifs of Whatsapp was not working and I'm with Aosp - Caf 8.1, I opened the app today and tried to see videos and gifs again and today without explanation it worked !!

There was no update, I honestly do not know.

Hug.
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
This is a known problem, and affects Instagram too... The developer is aware.
[G 2014 Android Development] teco10:
Speak friend!

I know that, Renan even asked for the Error log so I could pass it to him, just look at the conversations above!

Plus what I'm reporting is that out of nowhere, it started working, no explanation hand. lol

Plus the problems as I said I'm also following here in the forum friend.

OK! Hug!
[G 2014 Android Development] Jimisballjohn:
I've just installed it and it feels a little bit snappier than original OS. I'm definitely keeping it!
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
[MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION]

Talking about your AOSP-CAF Oreo build, can you please consider compiling the version with the Bluetooth fixed using Qualcomm LLVM compiler—just as you did for the last version of your AOSP-CAF Nougat build? Qualcomm says that by using it, you can achieve up to 10% more performance, and this may prove really helpful for our old slow MSM8226 on titan.
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
I've been thinking about this ROM too... A bugfree pure aosp ROM will probably be the last ROM my phone will see until it dies...
[G 2014 Android Development] RenanQueiroz:
It won't make any difference... LLVM doesn't work too well with Oreo...
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
It MAY make a difference if JIT compilation is disabled altogether. Titan is an old device with an old and pretty slow CPU, and the JIT compiler that has been re-introduced in Nougat and somewhat improved in Oreo does not bring a lot of performance improvements. I tend to think that on titan, the JIT compiler may even degrade the overall performance.

There is an excellent post by Farhan about AOT vs JIT compilers on Stack Overflow :

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40336455/difference-between-aot-and-jit-compiler-android

PS if someone with a rooted Oreo ROM is willing to experiment:

1.

adb root

adb shell stop

adb shell setprop dalvik.vm.usejit false

adb shell start

2.

adb shell cmd package compile --reset -a

3.

adb shell cmd package compile -m speed -f -a

4.

Set dalvik.vm.usejit=false in the system.prop file

Source:

https://source.android.com/devices/tech/dalvik/jit-compiler
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
Dude, you seem to know so much about this stuff, you should start compiling some ROMs! It would be of great value to the community! :D
[G 2014 Android Development] m00nlighter:
Unfortunately, compiling ROMs and fixing low-level bugs like offline charging or HDR requires the level of skill and understanding I do not have. I can only tweak the existing ROMs :)
[G 2014 Android Development] Thiago Mendonca:
I am using a version 8.1.0, with the level of the security patch, of July 5, 2018.

After formatting my memory card as internal memory, an error occurs in the picture-taking application

When I enter the picture-taking application, an error appears saying that the memory card could not be found, and therefore does not take pictures.
[G 2014 Android Development] femolystic:
Is this the same for everyone? Cellular data signal on this rom for me is always Edge. I've never had H+
[G 2014 Android Development] sapo_joe:
If yours is the double sim version, make sure the data sim is on the first slot.
[G 2014 Android Development] CodeDroid:
[MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION] So I'm sorry if I'm disturbing you but I still didn't get a response from you on this. Did you find out anything from the log?
[G 2014 Android Development] RenanQueiroz:
I/InputDispatcher(750): Application is not responding: Window{6f251ef u0 mark.via.gp/mark.via.ui.activity.BrowserActivity}. It has been 5078.9ms since event, 5005.5ms since wait started. Reason: Waiting to send non-key event because the touched window has not finished processing certain input events that were delivered to it over 500.0ms ago. Wait queue length: 3. Wait queue head age: 6262.0ms.

I/WindowManager(750): Input event dispatching timed out sending to mark.via.gp/mark.via.ui.activity.BrowserActivity. Reason: Waiting to send non-key event because the touched window has not finished processing certain input events that were delivered to it over 500.0ms ago. Wait queue length: 3. Wait queue head age: 6262.0ms.

Still, I have no idea what's causing or how to fix these things lol
[G 2014 Android Development] davvalderramac:
Hi. Are you going to launch a new ROM update?
[G 2014 Android Development] Droidriven:
Why not just wait and see? Asking this question isn't going to make it happen any sooner.
[G 2014 Android Development] teco10:
Hello!

Personally I have to say that I have tested several Oreos Titan roms, and in my opinion on stability. battery to Aosp - Caf is really the best so far, although the bluetooth is broken and Renan does not update it again (unfortunately), the DotOs was another despite that on my Titan, it had a lot of apps freeze.

More for daily use the Pixel Experience is excellent on my Titan, well fluid, cool battery ta, I can not complain, for everyday use, it really is one of the most stable I have ever used.

Congratulations again [MENTION=7344859]RenanQueiroz[/MENTION] for the great work you do for our Titan warrior.

Ancy for updates.

Thank you Warrior !!

Hug.
[G 2014 Android Development] Oshmar:
In my opinion, all recently released 8.1 ROMs are stable and fairly fluid, I have used them all and I can say that none of them have had any relevant problems, they are very mature and excellent for daily use.

I believe that many complaints are simply reasons to draw the attention, nowadays understanding perfectly the displeasure of some developers and abandon the Titan, and I am quite right, I would do the same.

Users of Titan (Not all), are really too inconvenient, those who complain most, those who ask ETA more, that attitude, this behavior should be reviewed.