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[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] droidbot1337:
once again....... this is not about "EMUI8" or "Oreo"..... this is about treble! oreo does nothing for custom roms if it does not have treble. huawei could still update to oreo without implementing treble but like i have stated already, it wont really matter since other devices are getting treble and a H8 treble rom an be hacked together from them.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] gnondpomme:
I don't know for treble but I am 100% sure hnor 8 wil get oreo and EMUI 8 this has been confirmed to me by the honor french twitter account

here is a picture of the conversation (yes in french ... ) :
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ThePS4Gamer:
YES! THIS is the end of the story. Please close this thread now. ("L'un ne va pas sans l'autre. Vous aurez bien Oreo avec EMUI 8!" in English: One does not go without the other. You will have Oreo with Android 8!)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] pix106:
You mean these threads :)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bakgrund:
Have they mentioned anything about Treble?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkionline:
No mentions on all Huawei devices about treble.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ThePS4Gamer:
From Honor France: "L'un ne va pas sans l'autre. Vous aurez bien Oreo avec EMUI 8!" in English: One does not go without the other. You will have Oreo with Android 8! So, Oreo is actualkly confirmed!
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
I knew if they were going to give us emui 8 it would be with Oreo I don't know why other people thought they wouldn't give it to us. Smh
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
It is highly likely that Oreo will bring treble since the Honor 8 already has the vendor partition needed for treble.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Krikoo:
I just read that honor 8 will get emui 8 but new android still not confirmed. Btw What is treble you guys talk about?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] _DaveP_:
It's a discussion about oreo, who is it for you to decide to close a thread, I've seen you say it a few times now, arrogance isnt a nice feature.

We will discuss this until it actually starts hitting our phones, if you don't like that, leave the thread alone.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hackslash:
Previously the hardware implementation done by the vendor (for example Camera) was tied with the Android version it shipped with. This means that the hardware implementation also contained the necessary Android code so that it could work. So in case of EMUI we have the hardware implementation plus the necessary code to run it on EMUI. Since all of this code was packed in a single file, it's extremely difficult to separate the two and extract only the needed information to for example make it run on custom firmwares.

With treble, this practice changes. Now the hardware implementation and the Android specific code is separated and are now independent. Thus with only the hardware implementation, you can easily make it run on any Android firmware including custom ones. Treble is a huge step towards custom firmware development since it offloads much of the work which was previously required.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Leon Lambra:
Isn't there an Honor Beta group on Facebook which required an invitation to get into?

Some dude posted this on Reddit earlier

https://www.reddit.com/r/Honor8/comments/7wh4gm/more_from_honor_us_on_emui_8/

Can someone who is in that group double check if this statement is right?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ThePS4Gamer:
Honor India now says the same thing:

https://twitter.com/WaG_Gaming/stat...y|twsrc^android|twgr^copy|twcon^7090|twterm^1
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Leon Lambra:
Can a Mod maybe combine all the different Honor 8 Oreo threads together? It's getting out of hand if you ask me.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
I would like if you wouldn't go around just spamming the same thing on these threads but that's not gonna happen. Yah I agree that there is to many threads but still, it really isn't hurting anything.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
I just hope emui 8 fixes the late notification problem I have sometimes. Also my led doesn't flash when I get notifications from whatsapp or telegram, only sometimes though.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
What do u mean by late notifications problem?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
Sometimes the notifications from apps are late or don't come till I turn on the phone from sleep "doze"
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Set those apps into ignore battery optimisations. That's what I did and I never miss notifications from WhatsApp, snapchat, etc.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
I tried that bro. I guess my heartbeat is to low for my Wi-Fi and must be timing out. Cus I have done all that and still miss them.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Which apps specifically?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
Whatsapp, telegram, snap, gmail, hangouts.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
I use all those apps except telegram and I always recieve notifications. Infact sometimes WhatsApp notifications get delivered to me faster than my sister's iPhone.

Have u set them to close after screen lock? Also make sure that WhatsApp and Snapchat have system wakeup turned on.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Lukke2804:
Whats that system wakeup setting? I dont have it?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Under battery setting of an app don't you have system wakeup? See screenshot in my previous post.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Lukke2804:
No just the warning of an app has a high battery consumption and closing after screen lock
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alvichone:
Neither me. I remember this option in some previous update, but now it's only 2 options.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Maybe they removed this in a later update. Are u recieving the notifications properly? Which security patch r u on?

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I just realized I've got a crap ton of services running in the background like Nova, YouTube ad skip, lookout, Clipstack, Mi Fit, weather etc. and they all have persistent notifications maybe that's what my phone gives me all notifications, coz it never truely sleeps! So if I connect my phone to WiFi and leave it on a table for like 10 hours or so my phone decreases by 20%. Now I'm not sure if that's supposed to happen or my phone isn't going to sleep......
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alvichone:
"Maybe they removed this in a later update. Are u recieving the notifications properly? Which security patch r u on?

I only use whatsapp and no, i can't recieve notifications when phone is in doze state. I have change all kind of features and options in emui with no success.

I am on L09C432B401, 1 january 2018 security patch, no root, bootloader locked, recently come from brick using official rollback mm method, but instant notification isn't a really problem to me.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] zinko_pt:
I also use Nova, Youtube Adskip, Skype, WhatsApp, Mi Fit, Weather (3h interval update) and others, and I my phone doesn't decrease 10% in one hour...
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
No u got it wrong. My phone decreases 20% in 10 hours. So that should be around 2% every hour. I was asking if that's the norm or if something is wrong.

Also it's nice to see someone with all the same crap as me ;)

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So this issue with WhatsApp no coming properly is after the recent update?

Also did u restore ur WhatsApp using the built in backup and restore option? If so uninstall and install WhatsApp again. When a messaging app is restored the system doesn't know or something like that.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
You know what? The weird thing is I don't have system wake up on mine. Is why maybe? I posted a screen shot of what mine looks like.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Did you restore WhatsApp using the built in backup and restore system?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] supersakis:
Why are people discussing whatsapp and other battery configuration issues in a thread for EMUI 8?

Can please a moderator move all these messages in another thread?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
No I didnt.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
Considering I made this thread and I don't mind if they get off topic. I see nothing wrong with it ? to be honest there is no need for your post.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
It happens rarely tho right?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
Yah it does. It's just kinda annoying at the very least. I just wondered if anyone else had this problem.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
I don't really know if it is related but I have screen wake up for every notification, maybe that'll help.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Leon Lambra:
Guys, can we stop talking about notification problems and stuff like that? It has nothing to do with the Oreo Update discussion...
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] SALENTINVM:
Regarding Emui 8 = Android 8 or not, I think Honor France's answer is clear.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Anqrew:
Taking into account the history of Oreo updates for other models, how soon should we expect a beta version to be available for testing? Somewhere in March-April?

Regarding notifications, I get notifications (from Doze) for Whatsapp without any special settings.

But for Gmail, it is still a problem; sometimes notifications are delayed.

By the way, you can disable the Deep doze mode using the following ADB command, it stays disabled until reboot:

adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable deep

As for me, It does not affect significantly the battery life (I get around 7-10% for 10 hours of idling)
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Leon Lambra:
yeah but people are b***** about that these guys are just a social media team who don't have a clue.

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More proof.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] zakk87:
Honor 8 will not be in a beta test program. We get oreo directly.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
Well my grandad had a Honor 6 (The OG which jump started Honor in India). He got Lollipop relatively early but I guess Marshmallow came only in June of that year just before the device hit it's 2 year mark.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ultimatez906:
Has anyone tried asking honor france if there will be treble support
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
I don't think anyone has. Everyone has basically just been asking if we are getting Oreo.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] SALENTINVM:
Honor says that all the phones which will get Oreo, will get Treble Support
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ThePS4Gamer:
Hooray, that means we will have a high-quality AOSP Android 9.0 ROM for the device.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BigD18t:
Will substratum themes work with Oreo ? Would be nice to get away from Emui as much as possible
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] SALENTINVM:
Idk, but i'd like them to work too
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
I thought Oreo had its own theme engine built right into it? Something like substratum
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BigD18t:
That's what I asked, but with Emui find over the top it might be disabled.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Lukke2804:
I think there is a way go get substratum themes to work on emui but i dong know how well that actually works. They do work with aosp roms, meaning with oreo we get treble that will bring us perfect custom roms where substratum should not be a problem
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Old friend:
For notifications when cell phone sleep. Go to Batery-settings and During sleep, mobile data is included. Or something like that. And turn on.

Edit: or try to turn on wi-fi above if you do not have a flat rate on your mobile.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
I didn't even think about that ? that might not even allow themes
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hackslash:
Lol, substratum works in EMUI 5 too. The support level is legacy (the same you get on Lineage but not on other custom ROMs which is OMS).
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sbodezzi:
Seriously? Works every substratum theme on emui?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hackslash:
All themes which support 'Legacy Mode' will run on EMUI. The catch however is, you'll be only be able to theme third party apps like Play Store, WhatsApp, etc. and not the stock EMUI apps like Dialer, Status Bar, Settings since it's not supported by any theme currently available. Theoretically, however EMUI is fully themeable under Substratum.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
Hell yah I didn't even know that. Well hopefully we can change everything in emui 8
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] O.a.T.:
What a joke regarding all the messages about old, incompatible hardware regarding our Honor 8's and Oreo. We've already seen where other vendors are providing Oreo to their even older phones, and even Huawei is providing Oreo on some of it's phones with very similar hardware to the H8. And more to the point, I now have Oreo running very well on my almost 4 year old OnePlus One. Just look throughout the XDA forums and see how many old, incompatible phones have Oreo running. Good Gawd Huawei!!! After losing the partnerships with AT&T in the U.S., Huawei needs to to something if it intends to try to keep a foothold here. As said before, I will have a really hard time buying another Huawei phone should this not come to pass.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
Yah bro that's what I'm saying. But apparently oreo has been confirmed for us and we are getting it during the Q2 phase.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ultimatez906:
Start of q2 should be in March right? So march-may is when we can expect to get it. Also no way they weren't going to give us Oreo when the honor 8 ****ing LITE would get it. Man if they hoed us like that I'd be salty till I got a new phone
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] dkionline:
Q2 is april to june.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
On God if they did that I would be salty asf ? but yah quarter 2 usually spans April 1-June 30 though bro. And I bet they will give it to us as late as possible ? I honestly don't know
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] spica1234:
I guess actually Honor 8 was not planned for Oreo(or EMUI 8 whatever) update in near future or it's update was unlikely, but instead of giving valid reasons, Honor India team wrote recklessly that it's not software/hardware compatible. And that made enough PR damges, at the same time when they've released new models. Thats why they made their stand clear on Honor 8 quickly.

But this proves one thing clearly, Honor generally is not sincere about quick updates and upgrades as well but only in selling and launching new phones. Well it's not Honor only, many companies have followed these strategies but they learnt their lessons.

Well, they actually have realised now that gold standard excuse(which was abused earlier in past by many companies) - 'Software/Hardware incompatibility' - is not adequate as consumers have become smarter.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
It's all bs
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Leon Lambra:
let's just wait.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
Yah ,that's where I'm at in things. Even if they did say we will get it idk with all the stuff they have already said I can't have to high of hope
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] spica1234:
Now after all this long waiting, we'll get it for sure.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Krikoo:
I've just read that Oreo causes strange bugs on other brand phones like Samsung or Xiaomi, maybe on Sony phones too. Hope Huawei won't release unstable versions.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ilya1805:
definately, next time - only google phones. I still feel bad `bout selling nexus 5x and buying honor 8 -_-
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Leon Lambra:
That just happens because OEMs rush the software updates because of users who are impatient. If you ask me, OEMs should take 6 months or more to test the Update instead of rushing them.

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Either Nexus phones or Xiaomi ones are my next phones, Nexus because of the official and long support, and Xiaomi because there is a great big community behind the phones.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayush rao:
But Nexus phones have quality control issues. I'm lucky my Nexus 5X hasn't bootlooped yet.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ultimatez906:
Nexus is dead lol i think u mean android one.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Leon Lambra:
I meant pixel lol
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Megaloceros.Ice:
Hello all i bought Honor 8 today, i would like to know 2 things...

#1 Battery charging time takes 60 mins to charge 60% i charged with the phone off.. its charging at the rate 1% per min... I owned this device earlier it used to charge even quickly i feel..

#2 OREO! Is it confirmed for Honor 8? If so when..
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tucci90:
My charging time is about 1h 20min to 100%..

Yes it is confirmed, but precise release date is open..

But I think oreo is coming same time with emui 8 and french honor tweeted that updates starts rolling out at Q2.

sry if my english suck :D
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Megaloceros.Ice:
Thanked u, Man what could be the problem with the charging then? mine is 5v 2a bundle charger 1% per min is it okay or defective approx full tym is 2 hrs.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jhayzt:
Chin up. I've pretty much confirmed at this moment that the Honor 8 will indeed receive EMUI 8/Oreo. The Honor BETA FB group did a live video awhile ago and I asked if EMUI 8 will be available to the Honor 8 and he said yes. Its just that honor india butchered it when they announced that the h8 won't get emui 8. Blame them. ? So yeah, chin up people and be patient cause the emui 8 we'll be getting is not a cherry picked version. Its the real deal. ♥️
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
Woo hell yah thank God!!! Thank you for this!
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jhayzt:
Wanna post the video for proof sake but it seems like I can't find any screen recorder that has internal audio recorder. :D :highfive:
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
I think this one might! Or could you post the video link or something??
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jhayzt:
Here's the link:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/honorbetausa/permalink/1212247482242155/

You have to join the group first afaik. The answer is around at the 18:57 mark. The guy even mispronounced my last name ?. Nevertheless, we have proof, now we wait like a padawan.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
Thanks I got access somehow ?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jhayzt:
Yeah, I just saw the access group and it was public. XD LEL
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Maverick Honor:
Now that Oreo has been confirmed for Honor 8 by various sources.. speculation should now be steered towards .....:cyclops: whether it will be EMUI 8 based on Oreo 8 or EMUI 8.1 based on Oreo 8.1. :angel: P20 apparently is going to launched in March with EMUI 8.1 based on Oreo 8.1 as per some sources. Since the rollout of EMUI 8 is planned in Q2 for Honor 8, will they sweeten the deal by pushing EMUI 8.1 instead of EMUI 8.?:confused:
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jhayzt:
Looks like we'll only get EMUI 8 AFAIK. Devices like honor 7x/9/v10 will get EMUI 8.1 and/or upto EMIU 9. But if we get treble enabled EMUI 8, dear lawdddd, consider our device to the pool. :highfive:
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Megaloceros.Ice:
Guyz reply me, The bundle chaeger 5v 2a is taking 2h to full charge that too if i switched off or smtymz bit more, is it fine or do mention wt r ur charging speeds.. someone reply.. im using frd l 02 5v 2a.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] timwelter:
Wasn't there something about only devices launching with Oreo getting Treble?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] XeLLaR*:
Switched from honor8 to S8 and i haven't encountered any strange behavior.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
I deadass hope we get treble support. That would make things wonderful!!
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
He is right though bro, Samsung pulled a oreo update from the s8 cus it was having a weird reboot issue. I guess they fixed it now.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] damenbm:
Mine charges from 20% all the way to like 60% in maybe 25 minutes to 30 minutes maybe 45. I don't sit there and watch it charge ? i know mine charges fast though. Maybe it's your battery?
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jhayzt:
I find honor's charging intelligent. It knows if you're using your phone. When you are doing something(Surfing the net, doing facebook, YT'ing and the like) while charging, it will lower the charging volt to avoid heat build up and battery degradation. Its something my old phone doesn't do hence now the battery is poop.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ThePS4Gamer:
No. Some older devices (like Honor 8) from the pre-Oreo era can get Treble support from the manufacturer with the Oreo update. It's not necessary to implement this feature of Oreo on those devices which haven't got Oreo out-of-the-box. But Huawei is doing this with the Oreo updates on different types of Huawei/Honor phones. For example, the Huawei Mate 9, the P10 series, Honor 8 Pro and Honor 9 also got Treble. And this is the full list of Huawei devices which has got the update at the moment of writing. And probably every Huawei phone will get Treble which will get EMUI 8.0 and Android 8.0. Why? Because Huawei partitions their phone's storage to a /system partition, a /data partition and most importantly, a /vendor partition. The vendor partition allows the Huawei phones to get Treble without any issues. If they will put the drivers on it, the components of the phone will work on every Custom ROM that you can imagine. So, this is why the Oreo update is so important for us.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] omniapp:
Maybe you have the wrong charger. It should be 5V/9V to be a quick charger. It has to be model HW-059200EHQ printed with "Huawei Quick Charge" otherways it will charge normally, taking a full 2hrs
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vysakh M Nair:
Its not the quick charge charger. The quick charge one is 9v 2a.. Frd l02 comes with 5v 2 a charger.. Which is regular charger. But if u need quick charge compitable charger u have to buy it from somewhere else. I purchased mine from honor india website for ₹799 which is close to 10bucks.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Old friend:
I did not want to frighten you, but this was stated by a Honor 8 Pro user on Youtube:

"After oreo update.. There is a lag while playing games... Before update Asphalt extreme was running very smoothly, but after upadate i hv encountered a bit of lag. And also after update the ram management has become very strict.﻿"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_1hB9GEP-c
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] agraceful:
This has nothing to do with our phone. Different phone, from ONE person. If you had multiple people complaining about the same thing maybe it'd be different. Don't pollute the thread. Updates on Oreo and the honor 8. That's it. Stop whining about your other problems. Take it somewhere else. THIS is one of the many reasons xda has become trash.
[Honor 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Old friend:
It's nothing trash. You should look at the problems people who have been upgrading their Huaweis to Oreo. Perhaps this is awaiting us. Honor 8 Pro is a stronger device than ours.

To have suddenly had problems with the games.

And do not let me mention that my mails are coming. I'll read this anyway.