[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] m.mishka:
I know what to expect of a sub-whatever device, thank you. Moto G5 Plus has a very capable camera - VERY. It seems though that a 32 bit stock ROM really limits Camera 2 API's capabilities, which I quickly learned when I saw just how BAD Moto cam's shots actually we're in comparison to GCam put on this ROM.

It's a great phone, and software like this here makes it even better. I've lived with G4 Plus for a couple of years, and that really good too, and even with a nice snappy ROM from some very talented developers here. And I really do put my devices through paces. I run work and personal profile on each, an exchange and another encrypted email syncyng hundreds of items each day, and there's a constant sync of just about everything else, too. Plus I run a busy Facebook page from them and post a lot of photos, using mobile Photoshop and Lightroom apps. As well as that I do my accounting on these phones. They're pretty good phones. AND especially for the price. And especially considering that this one has one of the best cameras in its class.

... So yeah, I do try to find something to make the most of its hardware, and I think I now have:

Once I got GCam going on this ROM (don't ask me how), the photos are amazing, and far superior to Moto cam, too.

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I'm on Alize, and I don't actually see any difference in battery life at all.

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Thank you so much. I'm very pleased to announce I'm back - for good! :laugh:

Long story, but basically Moto camera turned out to be total rubbish in comparison to the modded GCam and I'd rather tinker and contend with glitches than go back to a phone-full of Moto-awfulness.

After that post, I was up for half the night returning everything to stock, then installed the October security update OTA that immediately came through, and - EXCITEDLY - launched the stock camera app to take a few pictures of my sleeping dog, anticipating something marvelous, of course. And - omg! - the photos did look really nice. How happy I was to be back on stock and with reliable-ISH camera app (and there's a definite ish there, it's a buggy camera on Moto) that films video without crashing, too. I didn't look forward to all the debloating I still had to do on that stock ROM, but the night is long, as they say, so I set out to work.

Then, it occurred to me to pull up the photos I took with the modded cam when I wrestled with it while it was constantly crashing. When it had worked, I had actually thought that photo quality, colour, sharpness, HDR rendering, were all very good - VERY, but I was dead convinced (or hopeful) that the Moto camera would beat that modded GCam hands down. But I couldn't have been more blown away at just how dreadful Moto cam's photos were in comparison: blown highlights, washed-out colours, zero sharpness in my poor old dog's hair -- ZERO. What Moto cam did, it seemed, is took compression shortcuts and all similarly brown pixels together and creamy-shaded ones, and white, and do on, into closely positioned groups ... On close inspection, my dog's hair all consisted of fuzzy washed-out blotches! On comparison to GCam, Moto cam's shots looked like it was foggy in the house. I even cleaned the lens, despite it appearing clean anyway, but of course it didn't make any difference. And - all of the highlights in the fur were awfully overexposed, yellow-edged, pixelated. No definition whatsoever. I nearly died! My poor dog!

I thought that GCam may crush, it may not do the panorama, it may do whatever the heck it wants - but I'm having it back. And especially as it comes with this marvelous ROM!

And it did crash, my GCam. (I installed GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V5.) I read somewhere (in this thread, I think) to switch the video to 4K and disable the stabilisation, and then to turn off the motion effect in photos. And I did that, but it still crashed on video. I couldn't film anything. But the photos were really pretty when it didn't crash, and by that time it was getting close to 9 AM, and I am usually well-stupid in the morning, so I decided to go to bed, with a firm conviction that if I do anything else with my phone, it's very likely to be something I'll regret.BI restarted it for a good measure, took some sleepy test-shots of my duvet, then hugged it good night, and went to sleep, thinking that if need be, I'll install the Snap Camera Arnova & co. recommend, but I'm staying with this ROM and with this camera.

First thing in the morning, I set out to search for solutions. Tried my camera again, and how shocked I was - the video didn't crash it anymore! Wow! I was in luck and hoped it's last. When I tested the front camera, the video was awfully dark, really underexposed. Like, very. Not a problem, I thought, I'll install something else - something I'll do only video calls with. Restarted. Tried again - and front camera video is fine. Rear is good also. And from both phone cameras, the quality of video is great!

I'll definitely check out the links you posted, and I'll definitely try out that camera also and let you know.

For now, thank you guys so much. You're all geniuses! Thank you for all the development, your patience, your helpfulness, and your time.

Love the ROM! Love it. It's snappy, clean, and most esthetically pleasing. Thanks so much.