yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Both have a different usability factor apart from being close to Pixel UI. Treskmod is lean, fast, limited but highly usable features where as, CP is also fast but is more feature rich which to some like me are an overkill. You can also try the OB8 which is a huge improvement since the last all betas and best till date if you care about battery mileage.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] janis_dschi:
I was on omnirom the last 3 weeks. No bugs at all. Good batterylife. But i love customization so i wanted to switch to codename phoenix again. Cnp is a rock solid rom. i waited nearly 4 weeks for an update.. So i read in this thread treskmod is quite nice. I flashed it and im really impressed. Everything is so sexy :D the only bad thing in my oppinion is the "full" gapps package. It sucks to much battery (Normally I flash pico gapps). Try it yourself.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
After months of flashing and testing out roms i have finally settled down with stock oos rom ob8. Never found my phone to be so smooth and fast with amazing battery life. Trust me with this one, no custom rom can match this.

Give it a try.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] alewis2k12:
Even better than XXX no limits????
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
Now that is a tough call. But if i am asked to rate then i would rate 10/10 for ob8 stock rom and 9/10 for nolimits.

And by custom roms i meant roms which arent based on OOS.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maria_gr:
Liquid remix and franken rom used to be identical but not anymore. Liquid remix has changed since then, both in terms of features as in terms of under the hood changes as well (a total rebase of the rom was done and it's a lot smoother now).

Plus, it never had seldom updates, it's just that Dev was posting updates only on telegram and not on xda but he is posting them on the xda thread now as well.

Definitely pay back a visit to this rom again, it's really good :)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] SlyUK:
Which kernel do you use with Liquid Remix ?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maria_gr:
It has built in the singularity kernel which is pretty good.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bud7dha:
My thoughts exactly, mainly due to the camera. Do you use a custom kernel? If so, which one? I use blu spark ATM, which I think is quite decent, but I'm wondering if there's one with even better battery life - not really interested in a ton of features.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
I am using the stock kernel and i am getting really good battery life.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
You can try SimpleGX if you want rock stable and no fuss kernel for battery life or Try Helix engine on the stock kernel.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Anmwoap:
Do you use any tweaks or just vanilla OOS without debloater and stuff ?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
Full stock, just like op5t out of box.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Princeland:
Which is the best kernel for Oxigen OS stock 5.1.1 android Oreo 8.1?

Any best vs stock kernel?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] big_b0sss:
treskmod with singularity kernel with tripndroid works really well. Coming from Aosip and before CNP. Using oneplus gesture too
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bud7dha:
Depends on your needs. There are plenty to chose from. The following should all work with 5.1.1.

FrancoKernel https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/kernel-francokernel-r17-18th-jan-oreo-t3737469

Boeffla-Kernel https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/kernel-boeffla-kernel-01-2018-t3736205

blu_spark Kernel (and TWRP recovery) https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/kernel-t3706295

SimpleGX Kernel https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/kernel-simplegx-v1-0-25th-nov-t3710074

Flash Kernel https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/op5t-flash-kernel-v2-15-1-t3729330

Singularity Kernel https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/singularity-kernel-t3767387

New Kernel https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/newkernel-t3710363

ElementalX Kernel https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/kernel-elementalx-op5t-1-00-oxygenos-t3724179

RenderZenith Kernel https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/kernel-renderzenith-t3748440
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Xokoz:
https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/help/dk-rom-h2os-t3792038

This one looks really interesting. Anyone willing to do further testing?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Yeah ! Looks good. Thanks for the headsup. Downloading now.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
Tried it yet?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Yes ! It's basically H2OS stable with added functions like CPU control, Inbuilt Magisk, Xposed, Google Play store, Viper etc. Everything is already baked in and you to enable the respective features. The setup is a pain, as lot of bloatware from H2OS is inbuilt and i am currently working on a debloater so as i can flash that along the rom in twrp. Rest, is smooth and battery friendly as OOS.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Xokoz:
Does it have customized kernel inside?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Nope ! It has the stock OOS kernel with pre defined profiles. You can choose profiles based on you usage and the script automatically applies defined value. You can also choose min, max and gov manually. A new thing that someone made me notice with OB8 and this H2OS stable is that now OP has changed the kernel min freq to 518mhz instead of 300. I still have no clue what impact it has on overall fluidity and standby. You can set it back to 300mhz manually for both big and little.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
A debloater would be amazing! If you manage it then please make a thread or something and post it.:good: Thanks!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Sure ! Attached below. You can edit the updater script to further customize it as per your liking. Also, i have attached the Calendar Sync Adapter that is missing. Install it just like a normal app.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bmwkeith:
Audax 8.0 with Singularity kernel. OOS stability, Viper works out of the box, and very snappy.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
Currently on the new DK rom. What can i say about this rom. Stock OOS rom (h2o) with customizations with oos camera and everything stock. Simply perfect.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] dariett:
This morning I'm trying treskmod after a lot of time on OOS.

It seems ok, I missed custom roms :D

It is already the Gcam and seems work fine (except slow motion).

Someone knows if there are included the lib that arnova posted in the 3d about Gcam?

I can't find a forum (not russian) to follow :D
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
You're new favourite ROM? Does it have oos features like face unlock? Is it smooth? Good performance like tresk and aosip? I'm gonna try it later probably.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Xokoz:
I think Dk rom is gonna be the next thing lol
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
Yes. Everything working just like stock oos out of the box.

Performance was never better in custom roms if compared to oos latest updates.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Awesome! Two more things if you don't mind. What version of magisk is it running and where can I actually download it? I saw a link with folders but couldn't the file for the 5T. I only found the download link because someone posted a direct download link. No clue how I'll find updates. How did you get the file? Thanks. Also, will I need OOS singularity kernel not custom? This rom confuses me as it seems like oos but with loads of aosp features somehow. Thanks!

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One more thing sorry, how do you get gapps? Does it cause problems as it doesn't come stock? Any gapps package that works?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
I would say yes because the front HDR won't have worked if the fix and libs weren't in place. Moreoever, the dev is always upto date on Gcam.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] pro4ever:
Any rom out there other than oos with same quality cam?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Xokoz:
Well, no. Our camera never was the top tier anyway and Oxygenos is closed source rom, which means it can't be fully ported to customs.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] pro4ever:
In that case best oos rom guess its no limits then?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
No, DK ROM.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
Best oos rom is DK rom,currently.

Let us just say it is xxx no limits rom with lots of customizations.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] pro4ever:
Not on rom thread where is it dk rom?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Post # 753
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/help/dk-rom-h2os-t3792038/page2
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] onegooodreason:
I don't have a favourite but instead looking for something stable battery friendly and fast.

Thought firstly of dk but i don't like the extra bloat.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Macdamn:
do it supports substratum?

what kernel do you use with it?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Xposed is is already baked in but Substratum should also work though i dont use it. You can use any of the OOS base kernel.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Glsoto:
How do you use One Plus gesture with treskmod
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] dnsh89:
There's an app called OnePlus gestures. Check it out on playstore.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] abeysoft:
Doesn't it has some menu in Chinese?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
Nope, only in advanced reboot menu.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] big_b0sss:
Download the app its called oneplus gesture from playstore then activate it and hide nav bar
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
I am on Carbon since morning and it is rock solid. Best till date among all AOSP ROMs in terms of battery life and fluidity.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Performance good?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Yeap ! Not much feature rich but is pretty smooth
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Even after 24hrs the ROM still holds strong. The best battery friendly rom in all AOSP roms and even better than OOS to some extent. In the last 24hr usage, the avg active drain was 5-6% / hr and standby drain was 0.4-0.6% / hr with my light to average usage. On OB, my active drain varies b/w 10-12% per hour and the standby is close to 0.3-0.45% / hr with the same setup of apps.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] llvllaster:
Using DK Rom as daily driver. Has many customisation options.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] alewis2k12:
+1 Excellent rom!!!!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fikul:
Can somebody post a link to Franken Rom ? Everybody talk about it but i can't find it.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] lollyjay:
Nope. You have to copy your internal storage to either an OTG or a cloud or a PC
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] big_b0sss:
Hey that's great to hear. Can i trouble you for a nood friendly guide? Please
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cd993:
+1

"if it's not broke, don;t fix it...."

I'm loving stock Oreo right now, but if you say an improvement could be had then I'm very tempted!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cd993:
Are you finding it stable enough?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Dior DNA:
Which one? I see one [UNOFFICIAL] by kylothow and one [TESTING] by Evisceration,

not sure why.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] JetzNicht:
Of course I can.

First flash the latest Blu_Spark kernel with twrp

Then install Exkernel Manager and switch to an interactive governor in the CPU tab and tap the on/off button on the right side to restore this setting on boot.

Afterwards download the AKT.zip here https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5/how-to/akt-advanced-kernel-tweaks-v1-0-op5-t3688259

And follow the instructions in the thread.

It sounds worse than it is, the whole process takes around 7 minutes for the first time.

For me the XANA Extreme Battery works best in terms of battery life, but you can try out the other profiles if you want.

I hope everything is clear, if not, just ask :)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] beaverhead:
validus. great build and rock solid, also great dev. and now there is a slim build from martinusbe.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONEPLUS A5010 met Tapatalk
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cd993:
Curious! Could you please provide a link to this slim build?

How do you find it, compared to OOS, to the usual battery drain, performance, features and camera? Do Google camera ports work on it?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] beaverhead:
battery and performance or great. and the google port camera works. link

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617957302

feature list of validus.

https://github.com/ValidusOs/Feature-List

Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONEPLUS A5010 met Tapatalk
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Lobster$:
Anybody know where to find dirty unicorns rom?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Hetex:
DU for dumpling isn't ready atm
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DocRambone:
Yes, its very stable, not a single crash or reboor.

Use the latest, right now the unofficial one
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
Are there any Oreo custom ROMs with comparable camera quality to OOS?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cd993:
Just to say that I have now Codename Phoenix rom installed and I absolutely LOVE it.

If you haven't tried it. Do so....
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] shafi31:
DU

https://download.dirtyunicorns.com/?dir=dumpling/Rc

https://plus.google.com/communities/109738128866939227235
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] preference:
I like omni best, I would try Phoenix but I am somehow unable to install magisk modules without crashing the phone
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] tonni3:
I moved from Omni 8.1 to Phoenix, and really love it.

Its tweaks are just matched to me, no lag, battery is good.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] SlyUK:
This may help also for those using that rom:

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/codename-phoenix-oneplus-5t-rom-t3733717

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Good to know.....thanks.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Dior DNA:
Which custom firmware is made to be closest to AOSP in terms of least amount of 'extra' features?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DocRambone:
Lineage and Omni, i go for Omni as its more stable and mature
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
I'd 100% recommend LR over Franken. Franken is buggy and laggy compared to LR. LR recently rebased on a much better base so I'd recommend using that.

Here's the link to franken for the 5T.

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/rom-franken-official-8-1-t3775733/page45
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Dior DNA:
You mean LineageOS ROM with 'LR'? I ask, because if not, I may need to add LR to poll thread.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
No, Liquid Remix.

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/rom-liquid-remix-t3766359
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Since the last rebase to AOSP, this is also good. Super fast and smooth and already has the modded Gcam as default. I am testing it since the last 24hrs and need to see how it flares to Carbon. LR seems to be on steroids but guess Carbon would be more battery friendly.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maria_gr:
Totally agreeing with the above posts about Liquid Remix. After the rebase, it feels like a new ROM. Dev is very skillful and fast on fixing bugs too.

I highly recommend it as well.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] skiddiks:
Buying a OnePlus 5T and wondering if someone can give me a rec for a ROM with magisk/xposed support. Searching this thread, it seems like H2OS DK is what I want, but the site is in Chinese and I've read some issues with bloat.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] WNijhof:
Do people here use DU? Coming from OPO to the 5t so quite an upgrade. Du 12.2 was rock solid on my one. But maybe the roms here are better then DU.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
Go for xxxnolimits rom or zoe rom
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] KLit75:
How's the battery life?

Are you using the stock kernel?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Good battery and I'm using singularity kernel which is the stock kernel. Best kernel out there:)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] KLit75:
Thanks. Are you using the RC builds or official (the one in the OP)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
The 9.1.0 one from telegram.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] skiddiks:
thank you, these look perfect!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bmwkeith:
+1
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] dnsh89:
Which is best OOS based ROM and kernel combination for balaced daily use?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] WNijhof:
I think Stock OB8 with singularity is a very good stable start.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Probably DK H20S with singularity kernel.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] dnsh89:
DK H2OS has no bugs?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bobandar:
I have not come across any.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
None that I noticed.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] KLit75:
I've got to agree that Liquid is a very solid ROM.

I'll report back in a few days to see if its the best for me so far.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] dnsh89:
Flashed it and it's smooth so far.. hopefully battery life is better.

Thanks guys for the suggestion.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] dariett:
Now that the Gcam port is in a good state...I'm trying some custom rom, but for no one I had the wow effect. They seems almost the same with some small difference in the settings. I tried treskmod, liquid remix, resurrection remix.

I tried those roms just for a short period (few hours) just to understand the difference (not stability).

At this point maybe the target is stability and battery.

Am I wrong?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Blank Prophet:
Could you tell me how to flash Debloater.zip? Do I need to flash it right after flashing the rom?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
You can do it whatever way you like. Flashing it right after the rom would ensure that you boot clean instead of leaving some leftovers if done after boot.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] KLit75:
Stability should always be what you're striving for in a daily driver. Battery is important to a lot of people, but not all. If you've always got a place to charge your phone throughout the day, mediocre battery life isn't a deal breaker.

I'm enjoying Liquid. For almost 2 days, performance is excellent, its stable and battery is good.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] fp1707:
Did you change kernel or mess anything in Liquid Remix?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] KLit75:
Nope. All stock. Singularity is the kernel and its got a pretty good reputation.

Personally I don't feel like any modifications are needed but one of the cool things about this is built-in wakeblock options and App opps. So if you know what you're doing you could maybe conserve a little more battery.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] fp1707:
Thank you soon much for this. This app seems to work almost better than OnePlus solution because it doesn't react on touch, only on swipe; much like iPhone. OnePlus default reacts to simple touch at the bottom of screen.

I find OnePlus solution way too responsive, I like that I can customise to my liking in this app
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Evolve92:
Hello everyone

I have been using the stock oos ob8 and loving it so far, I want to try a custom ROM with themes support and good camera. I want to use it as a daily driver. Please suggest some roms to try. Thanks!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] sauaditi:
Try liquid remix ROM and XXX no limits ROM for battery and customization... Both are stable and hvng great deepsleep function with latest kernals..

Go for RR rom if you want more customization options but not good battery life and some bugs...

U can try candy ROM too but m facing some problems with latest build

Currently m on liquid remix 9.1.0 hvng great deep sleep :cool:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Any custom ROM you'll try would offer substratum support and majority of roms would come either with the Snapdragon Camera or Google Cam. Inspite of that, you'll still have to Install the Gcam Mod if you care about quality pics. So, you can try each one and see which best suits your usage. (Carbon, Omni, LOS, DU, AOSIP etc are well established roms with dedicated teams) Treskmod, Liquid Remix and few others are new to the party but worth trying.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
LR is new to the party lol? You clearly don't know the history of LR:laugh:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] SlyUK:
Probably means newly redesigned by a Dev gone solo.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
Pardon my ignorance but how old is LR?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
This was the old LR. https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/rom-liquid-remix-t3724147

Paul and Ryan had a disagreement about overclocking people's devices by default or something like that and Paul deleted the old LR telegram chat. From that, Franken and LR reborn became a thing with each working on their own rom. LR has made massive improvements and is likely the best rom out for out devices. Paul was a kernel developer and is still learning ROM development. He did most of the work if not all the work for the kernel part of the old LR. Ryan is much more experienced and makes a better ROM which has the best kernel too (singularity kernel). The old LR was made back in 2017.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] m4str0k:
older than you expect XD i used to install his roms on my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 And My Galaxy S4 XD
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] SlyUK:
So at this time point Liquid Remix Rom is more polished compared with Franken Rom is that correct ?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] m4str0k:
hi guys , can anyone suggest me the best rom for my usage? i need a rom with lack of customizations , some of the best OOS features and (THE BEST CAMERA PERFORMANCE EVER) i mean a fully working GCAM with touch to focus , portrait selfie and more .

is there any rom that achieved what iam talking about or should i just stick with my rooted stock OOS BETA 8 ?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
It's made by someone that actually knows how to make a rom. Franken has a few bugs and is still using the old LR LOS base. LR has rebased and is very likely the best rom out for the 5 and 5t.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] SlyUK:
Lastly Singularity Kernel is the default Kernel, is there any recommended tweaking of it with EXKM ?

Edit:

Or is it Flash and Forget ?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
On LR specifically, the kernel has been set to flash and forget. Most people don't tweak anything but I tweaked a few things to get better performance but slightly wise battery life. I haven't updated to LR with singularity kernel 1.0.7 yet.

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If you like oos then use DK H20S but gcam works very well in custom ROMs like in LR.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maria_gr:
Liquid Remix is definitely more polished.