yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
This is just an observation, I'm not trying to imply any rudeness towards you, but you've been a member for almost 8 years, and in that time you have not learned the differences?

Stability and smoothness, battery and idle, etc., can all be had just as good on any rom, no different than any other, because Android is Android, what one can do they can all do, and that also means the roms from a manufacturer, just like OxygenOS.

People ask the same things about Linux, when new to the world of Linux, which is better, and it's the same, Linux is Linux, what one can do they can all do.

One thing that has not been mentioned here, is the firmware for hardware support from a manufacturer, this code is kept typically proprietary from all the major manufacturers which becomes the biggest hurdle of trying to support this hardware on custom roms.

Some of the developers have created good work arounds, hacks, incorporated software/firmware from other projects like camera replacements, etc., some times better, sometimes worse, it all gets down to likes dislikes, unless something is really bad. Again, unless there's a problem, it pretty much gets down to personal preferences is all.

We all don't drive the same cars, wear the same clothes, like the same foods, right? Well, it can be pretty much said the same for Technology, Android and ROMs.

Sure there are times when something can really be crappy, but in todays world of technology a lot is standardized on many levels from hardware to software, etc.

Take OxygenOS, strip it down, tweak and customize it, put in a new kernel and it's just as stable/fast smooth with battery life also like any other. The only thing it lacks are features. Now if a manufacturer has really messed up their firmware with bugs, and a 3rd party ROM has fixed this, or offers something better, then this can be the advantage here, it all depends, because software, no matter who's making/hacking it has bugs.

Features are typically the only major differences between ROMS.

So better is subjective to your needs, and you have to play and learn to figure out which you like.

So which is better to you, a Mazada or Toyota, chocolate or carob? You see my point? Point is, unless someone is really messing it up, then there is no better, only differences. And with some skills, not even developer level, you can make any of them just as good as the other...

If you're implying that someone isn't going to customize a ROM from a manufacturer, just simply install one or the other and be on their way, these could be true.

So the question really, is someone just looking for something to be on their way, or are they here to learn? If someone is here to just get something different and be on their way, ok, but if someone wants to learn, then no...

P.S. This is not a rant, whine, *****, cry or troll with any attitude, I'm just simply making a reply is all, trying to point out some things and help clear the air on this subject. :)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
nothing comes close to tresk's features and smoothness

and pls stop talking s**** and drive people away from tresk

many posts you make to speak negative about tresk,grow up

because it's an amazing experience
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Lol you're mad if you think tresk is that good. It just isn't but you clearly haven't tried that many good ROMs to compare properly
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
tbh the difference between roms is so minimal

that the experience won't matter

what I am saying is that leave them try it
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
I can't speak for Tresk Pie because I haven't tried it yet, but back in Oreo, Tresk was by far thr most polished custom ROM imo. I'm currently very happy on OOS Pie tho, OnePlus did a great Job with it
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] BigBrosMo:
Used to use custom ROMs all the time before I got my 5t but since then just used OOS because it's been great... One of the things I love about it is the speed of their face unlock over the Android version... But now I am annoyed with some features (or lack of) on Pie and thinking of going to a custom ROM. Is it still true that oneplus implementation of face unlock is only on OOS or has it been ported/emulated yet on other ROMs? Is there anything else that's currently only available on OOS that'd I'd be giving up by trying Bliss etc?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Face unlock and all these oos only features will never be printed as they are proprietary features in a closed source ROM. However there has been a remake of oos navigation gestures which is decent but not as good as OOS nav gestures you get only on oos. I'd definitely recommend bliss ROM especially now we have Celtic kernel. It's getting an update on Sunday!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Dior DNA:
It may sound like a silly post, but: I like OOS 9.0.1 a lot. :good:

I may switch one day to a custom, even leaner, ROM. Preferably vendor independent GSI.

Perhaps pure Phh Treble AOSP baseline once it is no longer 'experimental'. Or GZOSP should it come.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
been running asoip for 2 days now, pretty soild experience, and no bugs from what I've seen. dev did a pretty nice job even if it's only the first build ??

btw paranoid has released a pie beta build if anyone's interested

https://xdaforums.com/project-trebl.../paranoid-android-pie-beta-qssi-8998-t3886750
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Xokoz:
Yep, what OOS is providing right now is what most people seem to need. Nothing to complain about, so it would be madness to bully yourself with switching custom roms every second day.

GSI sounds interesting, but then again it is new concept and needs **** ton of polishing. I'm afraid it won't top the experience over "normal" roms in this Pie era. The progress is definitely great to see happening though.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] preference:
I'm not super well known around these parts but I've been a flashaholic for many years, flashing roms to various Android based devices.

During the short period where Nougat was king, I thought that Luis's implementation of Resurrection Remix was one of the most complete, high performance roms on the market.

Oreo came along and I'm going to finally list my favorites in order of enjoyment (best to worst):

AOSiP 8.1 - the only ROM where volte and wifi calling always worked for me.

Liquid Remix 8.1 - tripndroid era, when the partnership between kernel and ROM development existed.

Omni Tresk Mod - take plain old, reliable Omni and make it look like a pixel.

If I didn't mention you please don't take offense, we've been blessed with a lot of roms on this device.

Pie is here and I bet you know what my list is going to look like.

OOS

AOSiP

Liquid Remix

CNP

So yeah, take it from a veteran AOSP lover. OOS 9 does pie justice and man the phone just flies. Try the latest OOS with bluspark 153 and don't forget to call your doctor after 4 hours.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Blu spark? Not RenderZenith? Also have you tried Bliss? I'd say that is my favourite ROM right now. Then AOSIP and BL and LR and OOS.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] siliwangi:
and what recomended from you, for me, for my Device? i hope get prefer from you, thanks,..
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] preference:
I honestly think OOS + BS or RZ gets about the same performance overall, but RZ typically has drained more battery due to less deep sleep in my experience. Make sure you fastlane both the little and big cores to experience thumb sex
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ganeshbiyer:
I am going to add Omni ROM along with Ob22 as the best ROMs going around.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ps000000:
I switched between 8.1 and 9.0, :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:

I miss High Brightness Mode when using 9.0 ROMs.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] preference:
I know when to correct myself, at least on the OOS front. I think weeb kernel is the best balanced now, though bspark is still up high on the list for me
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
This is on Weeble OP; (Doesn't exactly inspire confidence) :eek:

Note: I am not a pro by any means but in fact, a complete noob, so bear with my mistakes and enjoy the kernel!

Don't be mad at me, I'm only quoting... hmm

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5/development/kernel-weeb-kernel-t3847996
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] preference:
I can only speak for the stable oos release. This guy is talking about running it on a custom rom, which I have not attempted. I didn't think week even supported custom roms lol
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] siliwangi:
where im find that rom?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] preference:
You need a vendor partition before you can upgrade. Revert back to 5.1.4 and upgrade to 5.1.5, or simply wipe your phone and flash 5.1.7. after that, you can wipe your phone or upgrade to pie directly. I strongly suggest wiping the phone each time (complete format) in twrp.

Yep, no computer necessary if you have the latest 9.85 or 9.91 iterations of bluspark or the latest codeworkx twrp. Go decrypted if you have the chance to save headaches. Flash the newest twrp versions if you haven't already.

If you got all those steps down and still couldn't upgrade to pie, then it'll be the first time my advice didn't help someone get to the promised land.

Edit: i am an idiot and thought you meant you couldn't upgrade. Leaving information for the silent minority that still can't figure the **** out.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
I always run into more problems with Custom Roms, especially hardware support issues...

I personally run OOS stripped down as a microG rom, which I am working on for release hopefully soon on XDA.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] siliwangi:
im watting for you rom,and hope for gaming experience best rom, and not warm that phone when use gaming,.. :malaikat:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
I have not seen any mention of OxygenOS getting warm/hot when gaming...

hmm
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] siliwangi:
im use latest pie yesterday, when im playing high frame rate game like PUBG,VainGlory,Aspalt,an fortnite, my phone warm after 1hour feel hot,
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] arek78:
Codename Phoenix PIE - undoubtedly Best Rom for OnePlus 5T
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] sam00561:
Where to get this rom from and does wifi calling work on it please.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Lol no
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
You're right, and we're not talking about gaming, we are talking about ROMS, and he is saying that he has an issue on a PIE ROM. ;)

Are you talking about OOS Pie running hot?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] siliwangi:
yes im feel hot, not like Oreo rom OOS, i hope next pie rom feel better to used for gaming experience
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Glaux:
Pretty happy with OOS right now, plus 9.0 fixed a lot of annoyances I had with it.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
Same here, are any of the custom ROMs up to par with OOS Pie yet?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] valeriee:
Yeah CnP is the best for me so far, would love to hear what others think though
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
OOS for sure
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] valeriee:
Why do you think that? Have you compared it directly to CnP? I haven't tried the new Pie OOS actually...
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
I've tried pretty much every custom ROM and nothing has matched OOS in smoothness for me. RenderZenith is just too good with OOS.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Not good, I flashed it yesterday and was having magisk modules crashing and camera app kept crashing. Also I had lags and lockups. I'd highly recommend staying away from it. There are much better custom ROMs and stock too.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
I thought you didn't like OOS?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] lewyrobson:
Don't listen to DEVILOPS007, I'm on treskmod for 2 days and everything works, no magisk modules crash or camera, ROM is smooth. Still going back to oos because of navigation gestures.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maria_gr:
I guess you have been bad mouthing treskrom, just because the dev banned you from the telegram group, correct?

Not cool. If you don't like the dev, it doesn't mean you should spread incorrect information about his rom, just so others can read it and don't install it. Just my 2 cents.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
What do you mean don't listen to me? You think I'm making it up or something??

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I literally tried the ROM 2 days ago. Yes I don't like the dev and yes he bans for no good reason so yes I dislike him. However that is not why I am saying these things. The problems I had were very real. Substratum even didn't work except for one theme. So don't tell me it's incorrect information when you weren't on my phone. I flashed it like any other ROM including the firmware linked in the download folder. I didn't flash anything extra or mods or anything but had many many problems.

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Different story between Oreo and Pie
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maria_gr:
Alright, if that's your experience with it. I have never encountered such problems with the rom, which is why it took me by surprise.

However, it's worth noting that you are literally the only one reporting such issues. Every other person that has tried this rom, always praises it for it's fluidity and fast and smooth experience.

I hope they get solved for you or that you find a rom that better suits your needs - there are lots to choose from either way!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
I used to praise the ROM on Oreo but it just isn't there yet imo on pie. And I'm not the only person facing issues. I'm in a telegram group and many have faced these issues. It seems to be common among Omni/Omni based ROMs apparently to have these random problems.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Well Pie feels generally smoother to me. I think OOS is the only pie ROM we have that is actually good and ready.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
Ahh ok, well PIE hasn't matured much, if this is the one you are talking about, Oreo great here.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Manan79:
Aicp Oreo with Blu spark kernel... amazing battery life and smooth as butter...tons of features all work
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ps000000:
OB23 done right.

Oneplus use linear brightness slider instead of log. slider in other Pie roms.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] lewyrobson:
Is there Any custom ROM with OOS navigation gestures?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
All custom ROM oos gestures aren't nearly as good as oos
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ps000000:
I just found that MOKEE ROM build PIE ROM together with OREO ROM since JAN 20, 2019.

:fingers-crossed:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
it is so so smooth

smoother than OOS

don't belive what he says he hates that rom for unknown reason

treskmod is amazing rom and a must flash and try
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] danceeeee:
Cant wait for resurrection remix Pie.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
he has oneplus 5

and there are enough testers on the telegram group
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Dude don't lie to him. Flash OOS with RZ then come back and apologise

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No and that's part of the reason why I had crashes and bugs when I flashed it. Although 5 and 5T are similar there are still big hardware differences and bug's that her introduced when blind building. If you want to go the custom ROM route I'd highly recommend AOSIP or Bliss. Or stay on OOS.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
I tried them all

also aosip kernelnis based on redflare

what I am saying is the tresk is a highly talented developer

red flare the best kernel for custom roms for the 5t
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Zynchro:
I am unable to boot Treskmod Pie.

Wiped, formatted, installed (with and without Magisk 18.0).

Also, are there any working OxygenOS Cameras on custom ROMs, with 60FPS, Slo-mo and portrait support?

Maybe like an APK you can download and install with a custom ROM. I know that crDroid has one, but how did they implement it into their ROM I wonder...
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] preference:
If you want exclusive oos features then you need to stay on oos.

Even the OOS cam on codename phoenix doesn't compare to the legit OOS cam and all it's recent development. GCam boasts about quality and hdr, but the pics I take with OOS cam have fooled plenty of people online. GCam is better (subjectively I'd say 10 to 15 % better), but it's slower at snapping photos, particularly when hdr is on.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ps000000:
RR Pie released.

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/rom-resurrection-remix-os-6-0-0-t3747038/post78747862 :fingers-crossed:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ps000000:
click "RC" tab

DU PIE RC released Jan 30 , 2019

https://download.dirtyunicorns.com/?device=dumpling

:fingers-crossed:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ps000000:
RR PIE by Luis is my favorite now (best for my lifestyle).

:fingers-crossed:

Havoc

Official RR

Liquid Remix

crDroid

Official DU

Official Omni

AICP Pie

AOSiP Derp

Official Mokee Pie

Xtended

Candy

Carbon

Bootleggers

etc.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ganeshbiyer:
And this too (RR Pie Beta)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] rushier.ivan:
U guys gotta try DerpFest AOSiP. :)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] preference:
I just wanna bring up that it's sad to see XDA deteriorating. Outside of a select few threads, it's been tough to accept the decline in responses and general community engagement. I'm part of the problem, I've been on the other communications platform that may not be mentioned.

Anyway, I love the people still posting here, and I wanted to contribute too.

Treskmod, tho managed by a madman, runs perfectly on my op5t. It has working vowifi, it has pixel features, and it's smooth as **** EAS. I run a hmp kernel (ask for links if you want) that makes it run very similar to OOS, which is why it's my favorite custom ROM right now.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] chinesekorean:
I'm interessed.

Actually, i've never tried treskmod and i've been curious about what it delivers (gapps level) and what does it flashes (firmware/gapps/rom just like CNP or gapps/rom ?)

It may be ideal to DM me about it please, since it would be spam here.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Agreed, hands down the best rom available for us imo. Better performance and smoothness than any other ROM like tresk.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bud7dha:
CNP, derpfest, tresk ... Where are the custom roms that will run without gapps? Luis RR might be a no gapps option, but snap camera has kept me away from RR and LOS. If the Librem 5 didn't cost over $600 for middling hardware, I'd purchase it just to get away from dependence on google.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
AICP
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bud7dha:
It doesn't use gcam exclusively? Maybe snap, or both.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
It comes with snapdragon camera but you can uninstall that and install gcam
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ps000000:
DU official pie just updated to FEB 09 build.

https://download.dirtyunicorns.com/?device=dumpling
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] chinesekorean:
RC, not official.

CNP is good for me at this moment, but I may change it to something else, just dunno what

EDIT : Tried Treskmod, lol, it's bad. Will go back to CNP, at least everything works as intended.Now I understand why there isn't any topic related to this untested rom.

-- Slow GCAM (really ? don't put any if you don't even use it)

-- Gmail crashes without reasons

Enough reasons to say "no".

And where is speed ? Like seriously, it's slower than AICP lol
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] niko2931:
I think you've installed it wrong, I have neither of those problems..

Gmail could be caused by not having a default webviever.

The gcam problem is caused by you not having the right settings..
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] preference:
I'm gonna double up on this comment. The gcam is broken no doubt, the developer leaves it up to the user to install the camera fix. Once installed the camera should at least be functional. I chose to disable it and install the latest arnova. No regrets.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] niko2931:
If you actually read on the telegram channel, there are plenty recommendations for the XML files needed..

I've never had such a good camera experience as with treskmod!

But I will give you the point on the user needing to "think for themselves", but in reality it's not hard at all
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] chinesekorean:
"install it wrong" haha ok thanks for your contribution.

And of course gcam not working is my entire fault, yeah of course, i'm testing 10 times more ROMS than you do weekly, i don't have such issues on them,it's dev's fault, period.

But yeah, blind building is synonym of quality and fully working system, of course.

It's just borked, just admit it, AOSiP doesn't have problems,CNP doesn't have problems, OmniROM doesn't have problems, OOS doesn't have problems, don't tell me what do I need to do when i'm clearly not faulty.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] niko2931:
You should seriously relax...

How exactly did you flash the ROM, if I may ask?

PS. don't say that it's the developers fault.. be nice to them! They do this for free and don't need that negativity! Which is why a lot of developers take their roms and kernels elsewhere..
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
Just flashed CNP and really like it. I think custom Pie ROMs are finally starting to catch up to OOS Pie.

Bootleggers and AOSiP just got updated, how do they compare to CNP?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Jamie_oppo:
Aosip is a fan favourite ATM. I'd recommend it over cnp.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ps000000:
Liquid Remix Pie just release FEB 10 , build.

TugaPower release first Pie build.

(seem to be Monthly release like Havoc Pie and Bootleggers Pie.)

AOSiP Derp is great for me too.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Simonis:
I can recommend tuga rom 9.0 it's extremely smooth with

Good battery life and for me, after trying a lot of Ron's, by far the best custom rom
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] preference:
I'll give it a shot based on your recommendation, but I have not been able to escape the grips of Tresk, CNP, AOSiP, and OOS. The holy quad-rom trifecta. I hope tuga convinces me, if I am at all disappointed then I will flame you until Jesus comes back.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Simonis:
LOL ? try it it's good, flash rom (magisk is included)

Then gapps and noverity v3 , If you are decrypted
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maria_gr:
Totally agree with those 4 options but I always add AospExtended to the mix as well. My all time 5 favorite roms.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] preference:
I can't help but say that on 8.1, aosip was probably my go to choice. AospExtended is really good, I can't help but wonder if it has developed into a good pie rom, haven't been following it