yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] giardux91:
With OOS, if you are rooted you can have always on (by flashing the magisk module) and you can turn off heads up notifications by using "tiles" app.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] aswathsaru:
Yeah ! But kinda not a fan of OOS.

In custom ROM I can change lots of settings like status bar, navbar pixel touch,

Music ambient, etc...

So thought to move away from OOS
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
I use pixel experience with red flare kernel

it is not as customizable as crdroid and other roms

but it is perfect for me and the camera is google camera much better photos than oos and no bugs
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Zynchro:
May I ask, which version of Pixel Experience?

The latest official one is from 8/8/2018, is that the one you're using?

Also, do you, by any chance, know which oos firmware Pixel Experience is based on?

Last thing, I really find your posts amazing, I've seen you post on various threads, and everytime you post something very useful.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
thanks for that

yes I use build 8/8

based on 5.1.4 firmware but you can use it on 5.1

5 normally just make sure you flash non treble kernel (when you do)

it is stable and amazing with exceptional battery life
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] b00dymoon:
Wich is better in your opinion bluspark or Franco kernel for battery life??
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Neither
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] b00dymoon:
Suggestions for extended battery??
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Yeah yeah, we know ZeroMatter is the best kernel you worship so much. Another fork soon ?

blu spark as well as franco are not the best, but they're balanced for daily usage.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Overthinker:
Personally I'd prefer bluespark.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bud7dha:
An easy set and forget kernel for stock OOS stable branch (5.1.5) is SimpleGX. No kernel manager needed. Idle drain is decent. I've been using this kernel for several months now without issues. https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/kernel-simplegx-v1-0-25th-nov-t3710074
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Not a fan of ZM anymore so don't assume things.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] thanhnvt194:
where i can get red flare kernel?

got nothing after google a while :)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Just Google treskmod and you'll find it.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] KLit75:
Anyone tried the 10/5 build of DU?

That used to be my go to rom on other devices but I find it hard to navigate the Google+ page. Mostly want to know which fw to flash and anything else useful.

I think they updated to pie.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
I posted on their forum 1 month ago and I got no reply

I was on 5.1.4 and it did not boot

so you may try your luck with either 5.1.3 or 5.1.5
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
What Pie ROMs are people running?

I've been sticking with CNP, but I tried Liquid and it had the Swipe down on fingerprint for notification shade,which I use a lot. But liquid was giving me crazy battery drain and instability so now I'm back on CNP. I tried flashing Omni and Cdroid but both wouldn't boot
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] rushier.ivan:
Maybe it's just on your end. People in LR chatgroup are posting easy 8+hrs sot on the latest build (10/05)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] fp1707:
My favourite currently is Codename Phoenix pie by [MENTION=4837394]siankatabg[/MENTION] . Xe give update every Sunday. OnePlus Camera works on this so camera shouldn't be an issue(even front portrait works)

Battery life also, is the best I've experienced amongst any Pie ROM.

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I suspect the battery drain happens for strange reasons to random ppl. I seem to have this strange drain and heat in some ROMs and not others. Linus tech tips made a video about this. Maybe that's also causing you troubles
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
Yea after trying most of the Pie ROMs out there, I'm back on CNP. It's by far the best in terms of stability, battery life, and features
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
LR with Reaper kernel destroys CNP. Just saying. I've tried them all.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
From my last devices I used, out of all the Custom Roms I installed, which was just about everyone of them, I never found one that worked better then Stock. There were either network issues, camera issues, other firmware bugs that the Custom ROM had, etc...

In the end I found that Stock Android worked the best, if I wanted the best Hardware Support.

So, I've been reluctant to install any Custom Roms, Oxygen OS seems to run fine, hardware working good, not much of any problems, but of course, what OS is bug free...

All I'm doing to OOS is debloating it, running microG and a custom kernel...
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
this applies to many devices but not the 5T

if you just use the right rom and kernel

thanks to google camera port (I don't need OnePlus Camera) so the only thing that would make anyone stick to the stock is not there anymore

I use Pixel Experience coupled with RedFlare Kernel I am not thinking of flashing OOS at all

that setup is smoother with better battery not to mention the stock pixel experience much better than OOS anytime
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] yoye_cros:
In what LR destroys CNP?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] rushier.ivan:
Optimization. Smoothness. Battery. Most importantly, KIND DEVS.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Everything lol
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] yoye_cros:
Ok, I will try it. Thanks!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
OOS is just as good as any custom rom if you do things properly. The problem is, most people might not be willing to put in the time and effort on a rom from a manufacturer.

I've seen the understanding, that this is taking a step backwards and making more work using the rom from the manufacturer, and I understand this. But when a manufacturer is putting out a good rom, with only a few minor things that actually revolve more around the choices someone doesn't like, but not bugs or performance issues, then this is a different matter.

Oxygen is a custom rom, it is not Stock Android, it's OnePlus's spin on Android. Android One is Stock Android.

You do these 3 things, you'll make Oxygen run as nice, if not nicer than any custom rom out there, but it takes time, and the patience to be willing to learn how to do it.

1. Debloat

2. Signature Spoof Patch

3. microG

If you do this and run microG, you'll get the great battery performance without the need for another kernel and smooth/fast running too, but you can also throw in a custom kernel and improve it even further!

Oxygen is not a crappy rom, it has glitches like any rom does. There is no perfect rom, remember that!

Here's the Truth, "Best" is Subjective to the Needs of the User! In the world of Technology, Software, Firmware, Roms, there is no such thing as Best, unless the alternatives are a complete flop. Oxygen OS is not a complete flop. ;)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
Okay, so I exclusively run OOS as I believe it's way superior to stock AOSP at this point, even on Pixel/Android One phones. Now my questions for you are:

1. What's your method of debloating? Currently I use the Magisk XXX rom that recently got discontinued, but it's good for debloating.

2. What is "signature spoof patch"?

3. What's the best method of going about microG? Should I debloat everything entirely and then flash microG or just do my normal debloating and then flash microG?

You've presented some good ideas that I didn't know about and definitely interested in learning more to push my device for complete performance. Thanks!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
Good Avatar! LOL :)

1. On the subject of Debloating, there are two methods to this, removing by hand manually, or systemlessly with an app like Debloater (Termnial Emulator). By doing it systemlessly, for those that care to keep the system intact, then Google OTA updates are possible, do it manually, break the system, no OTA.

2. Signature Spoofing in a nutshell is allowing microG to spoof as the replacement for Google, here's an article I found;

https://blogs.fsfe.org/larma/2016/microg-signature-spoofing-security/

3. I'm actually working on an article on all of this. microG in Stock Android has been a passion of mine for the past year, so I figured to write up something to help others.

At this point in the article I'm like at 95% done, which is only three things I'm looking at, SafetyNet, Xposed and the microG UnifiedNlP package.

1. With Xposed you can't pass SafetyNet, so for those that don't care about SafetyNet, then the article is done, and can be used already, as you might of noticed by my screen shot.

2. At present the big challenge is trying to do this without Xposed to pass SafetyNet...

3. Without Xposed that leads us to not having supposed microG UnifiedNlP package support, this is the reason for using Xposed.

4. In regards to the UnifiedNlP package, I'm looking at "Location" in OOS to see what I can do to change the microG support for this, but then that is going to mean manually removing and no Systemless, so then no OTA for those that want this.

So for now it's a pick of the Lesser Evils; Xposed, SafetyNet, OTA... LOL ;)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] rushier.ivan:
I agree with you with OOS. However, for me, it doesn't need much debloating. And yep, that's why BEST is SUBJECTIVE. ;)

For my usage, I get the best out of OOS (OB17) by having alternatives for other custom ROM features by:

ROOTING: Magisk (Camera M module for oil paint effect fix)

KERNEL: Reverse Flash Kernel HMP by [MENTION=4766140]crian[/MENTION] (For better smoothness, battery, and performance– Like.. Seriously)

THEMING (to make OOS Beautiful lol): Substratum (Ozone for ui tweaks, K-clock for center clock), Swift Installer, Lawnchair V2

QUICK SETTINGS CUSTOMIZATION: JOneplus Tools, Tiles app (really good app, like you can disable heads up, notification history, advanced power menu, and more!)

So, yeah. I'll stick to this for a while. Pie custom ROMS are getting better day-by-day. LR, CrDroid, and CNP are daily drivers for sure. I'm personally keeping track of them and wait until something comes up that suits my personal preference. I believe that when official OOS Pie for 5T comes out, Pie Custom ROMS will pretty much become perfect! :fingers-crossed:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
Sounds nice... I think OOS is quite a nice rom, just a few touches and not bloated. ;)

Actually just to debloat there isn't much. The only issue right now is with "Location" in OOS, the microG UnifiedNlP package isn't binding in the rom, so it's what I'm working on at the moment, trying to get the support direct through microG instead of needing the UnifiedNlP Xposed Module to do it.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
[MENTION=8949533]DoR3M3[/MENTION]I'd love to see your article on the process of OOS and microG. Will it be a step by step guide for debloating and setting everything up? You should make your own thread in the guides section! I've been on CNP Pie for a while now but I'd love to try out debloated OOS once your article comes out :)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
It's a Step by Step guide from beginning to end, guaranteed or your money back! LOL ;)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
I'd love to give MicroG a go but I depend on my Google Feed from the Google app too much so I could never use it unless there was a workaround for that.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
microG is about replacing the Google Services/Framework and becoming the replacement Back-End of Google. So whether someone wants some Gapps, or no Gapps, it's suppose to work both ways...

For a lot of people the idea is to use microG to be free from the Google Services, have better freedom and security, while still using some of their favorite Google apps, or going Google Free, and give the phone better performance, especially in the area of better battery life using microG.

With Roms that have Gapps preinstalled like OOS, the best way is to run and setup all the google accounts/gapps you want to use. Then debloat, and hopefully everything is still working ok with microG.

For the Google Feeds, you just have to be willing to play and try, I personally don't use any Gapps.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Zynchro:
5.1.4 Firmware

+

AOSP 9.0.0

+

(Latest and non-treble) RedFlare Kernel

Absoloute smoothest and longest lasting battery I've ever experienced.

I say this, and I sincerely mean it.

I've tried so damn many Kernel + ROM combinations, and I've always found RedFlare to be the best kernel, but I've never found the 'perfect' ROM to pair it with.

I've tried AOSP 9.0.0 a few times in past, but never combined with RedFlare. But imo, best setup you'll ever find on a OnePlus 5T, and it's based on Android Pie!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] MsuatafaKhatab:
Encrypted ؟
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Zynchro:
Unfortunately not yet. :(

NFC also doesn't work, forgot to mention that.

Other than that it's the most fluid Android ROM you'll ever experience on a OnePlus 5T, imo.

Also the actual boot times are like 5-7 sec.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] MsuatafaKhatab:
Can you suggest encrypted rom as i still new

Thanks
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] jmtjr278:
I enjoyed red flare for quite some time. Smooth and battery friendly. I just couldn't get past the not waking up on fingerprint or double tap after being in deep sleep. It didn't happen all the time but it happened enough to be bothersome. Have you found a workaround or does this behavior not bother you line it does me?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Zynchro:
Never have I ever experienced this, sometimes there's a marginal delay when unlocking through the fingerprint scanner, but it isn't a huge let-down.

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Treskmod

Pixel Experience

or

OxygenOS with RenderZenith Kernel and latest Magisk + xXx NoLimits ROM.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] KLit75:
Im really confused about something. In August I flashed a treble recovery but have yet to flash a treble rom. I thought this alone made it treble ready but after using an app that lists all sorts of device info, it concludes treble is not supported.

Ive been on AOSP EX for months now but if I choose to install a treble rom...???

Can I just flash it like any other?

I thought if you had a treble recovery, treble would be supported. I have a vendor folder in /system

Thanks
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sjain11:
How's the performance?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Zynchro:
Well the smoothness is superb, and so is the performance. That is to be expected when you're rockin' the RedFlare Kernel.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sjain11:
Alas, i still can't use it. It doesn't have VoLTE support.

Can redflare be used on OOS?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Zynchro:
Unfortuneately no, RedFlare is custom-ROM-only. Howevere you can experience the same smoothness and battery life with RenderZenith kernel.

One if the main reasons RedFlare is so great is because of it's EAS implementation, which RenderZenith also happens to have. EAS, for example, is one of the reasons Google Pixel phones are so smooth. OxygenOS also has some kind of EAS implemented, but it isn't ass optimized as Pixel's.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
RedFlare is OOS compatible

the flashable zip is universal it detects wether you are on OOs or a Custom Rom and do the magic :)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sjain11:
Can you please pm me the link for redflare?

I searched everywhere but couldn't find it.

Thanks.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Zynchro:
Search: treskmod

When you're on the site, go to "Get Treskmod", then tap the Kernel folder, now go download the latest kernel.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
https://dl.treskmod.ru/kernel/op5/
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sjain11:
Thanks. Installed it. It's working.

Would you mind sharing your configuration.... for better smoothness and performance?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
just keep it stock
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pepopk:
Dude, can you provide me a link for this AOSP 9.0? i found one but the latest security pathc is aug 05 2018 and that I didnt like that.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DEVILOPS 007:
Just run LR man. It's much better and more up to date.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] pan466:
Can you use pill overview on that one?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
Does the DEV participate on XDA? I looked around, I'm not seeing anything...

This is all I've found at the momet;

https://github.com/mTresk/android_kernel_oneplus_msm8998
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
he is in xda but the kernel is not here(no thread)

mtresk

there is a rom here that has the kernel by default

this is the best kernel for 5t hands down
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
To bad no OP for the kernel to help users understand what's going on with it, versions, options/patching, tweaks, etc., as well as for support, chat, etc... Hmm :eek:

The rom is MSM Xtended...

Remember --> Best is Subjective to the Needs of the User! ;)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
well ultra smooth good battery life

all the features except overclocking

really this is the smoothest experience I have had on any phone with very good battery and stand bye
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
Well I've debloated OOS and running microG, so that's a real battery saver doing this.

For the moment I've been playing with the Stock Kernel in Kernel Adiutor, but now I have EXKM, so I plan on playing with RenderZenith.

As I get my hands on more kernels and see what's going on, maybe later I'll just roll my own.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Princeland:
do you save with micro g? In screen hours how many minutes / hours are they?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
I never run Gapps so I can't give you any estimates as to battery improvements. I run microG to untie myself from Google and to be free of it! ;)

I also look at it by not being tied into such a huge ecosystem, you will have greater security too. Of course doing the wrong things, can get in trouble with or without Google...

The reason you choose microG is to have Freedom and Privacy over Google, that's the main objective, if you get better battery life great, but you will certainly not get worse either.

My understanding is the Gapps and the Play Services do cause more of a drain, so by removing and replacing comes the improvements. Not to say that microG is improving, just that it's the better replacement.

You could certainly have messed up battery life without Gapps and running microG, that is going to depend on what you do if you don't optimize in many ways.

Removing Gapps is removing a bad layer, adding microG is adding a good layer. So remember, as with the approach to Layers, you always need to make sure you are adding more good Layers to the system as you move forward, optimizations, good kernel and phone settings, etc...

This is a good article in relation to kernels and batteries, but EXKM also helps you to gauge the performance too;

https://elementalx.org/the-truth-about-kernels-and-battery-life/

Hope this helps... :)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I feel that the most consistent ROM is AOSiP, needs 0 tweaks and last 10 hours with my usage.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] justinn01:
Link for the latest AOSIP?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
https://get.aosiprom.com/dumpling/
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] justinn01:
Thank you.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bud7dha:
The dev is on telegram, has a chat group there, has his own server for builds (rom and kernel), actively helps users, and is well respected by people who know him. ;)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
I didn't mean Telegram when I brought up the words support/chat, that was a mistake on my part, but to instead use Development Platforms, is what I meant.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] jckjr:
Can you point me in the right direction to learn more about microg? Can microg be ran on all custom ROMs?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
Directions ---> https://microg.org/ ;)

microG can be run on roms that have Signature Spoofing support, or you patch it for the support, or you run the Xposed Module - FakeGapps, which will enable Signature Spoofing.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] jckjr:
Thanks, I'll check out more about it.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ernia75:
Hi everyone.

Do you recommend a stable rom, with high-performance battery?

What do you use?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DoR3M3:
I recommend reading and learning first, have you done this already? I'm assuming no, when you ask a general question in regards to battery performance.

https://elementalx.org/the-truth-about-kernels-and-battery-life/

https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-save-battery-life

There is heaps of information online and the reason I am saying all this, is because I am running Oxygen OS debloated and with microG as example with awesome battery performance, maybe Ultra Performance! LOL

The point is, any rom you use can have Ultra Performance, it's up to you, to figure how to do that, not just rely on a so called rom to do the job for you. This is like as they say, putting the Cart Before The Horse! ;)

There are to many facets/variables on the subject matter of Battery Performance, and just Categorizing it into a Box as the ROM, for the complete answer to everything you are looking for.

So if you don't learn, then later, after installing who knows what, and doing who knows what with the rom, you're back to crappy battery performance, blaming the rom.

Cheers :)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
AOSiP is the best you can find without having to tweak.

I don't really understand people that says "use X kernel cuz its the beeeestttt" cause it's just an excuse and a placebo effect.

Built-in kernel is usually good, unless the dev doesn't know anything at optimisation.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ernia75:
https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/development/rom-android-source-illusion-project-t3752223

is this the rom?

I am currently using the OxygenOs with the magisk XXXNoLimits module, but with the last OB the battery life is much less.

I prefer to install roms that have a good stability and that are ready, rather than making difficult passages that involve little compatibility with the system.

I was also undecided about trying:

- crDroid

- LineageOs

- Codename Phoenix
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Ain't the google guy, so I'd never recommend Gapps in the first place.

Got bored of OOS firstly because of Gapps integration and other stuff like community apps (like they even listen to people), you can have same navigations with an APK, but then again, i prefer having a navbar.

-CrDroid is ok, i don't like it but it's stable enough i guess.

- LineageOS is crap without another kernel (RedFlare or Krieg)

- CNP takes you as a hostage (pre built gapps) but I heard it was good and it is when i used it on Oreo

With AOSiP, along with Swift black theme (so every app are amoled black {and not that ugly grey} i get about 2 hours per 20% with Bromite, Youtube vanced and some rare SMS, keep in mind i'm a light user and i don't game at all with my phone.

You won't have problems with AOSiP but it's up to you.