yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Themes] douginoz:
Sheesh, guys, all this passive-aggressiveness against the author because he's decided he'd like to get a donation for his work. Looks like several people want to make an issue out of it.

Well, look at it from his perspective - he spends hours designing this stuff then if he makes it available on these forums, hundreds of guys will just download it and use it with maybe a 'thanks' in the thread. They're unlikely to bother contributing anything at that point; be honest.

So he's held out for some donations and got some, and is now saying that he'd rather make his new works available to donators and not the general public.

Yeah, he's selling his work. No, he didn't say that up front, but that doesn't mean he's trying to deceive you or anything, he's simply evolved to that kind of model because he wants to. You can twist his words around all you want but really it's just sour grapes on your part because you don't want to contribute.

If you have donated, you're likely to get something soon. Be patient and if necessary send a gentle reminder to him via PM that you've contributed, just in case he's missed you.
[Windows Mobile Themes] chrisd1a1:
folks, it takes time to make these skins, give the guy a break. but if anyone wants to try there own these is a way to use the paint facility on windows.

copy the menu and button folders to windows and open using paint. there are a lot of icons you can download from xda that you can paste over the skin. works fine . a lot of icons are on the following link.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=351551

works well but limited as you cannot change the background just the icons
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Thank you for understanding my position. I could not explain further.
[Windows Mobile Themes] arigold1:
Heres my opinion because i am free to give it:

I do believe that it does take time to develop these skins and i know that the developer DID put much time and effort in BUT

I have been drooling over these skins for a while now waiting to find the DL link to the one I really liked to try it to see if i like it. Now it seems that I was just being teased this whole time. I will never a hands on experience with it to see if I like it or to see if I feel it is something i will actually enjoy and be donation worthy.

The applications located on this board are fine works of art. A REAL artist does not care about making a profit off of his artwork because he ENJOYS creating it.

If you want to sell your skins get off the board and put them on your own website and see how much money you make. Either that or stop using the word "DONATION". I'm not paying a dime for software I don't get immediately and don't get to try. I hope the moderators read this as well.

BTW, I donated to Slither2006 because I've enjoyed seeing the progress that has been made on SCLPC++. This thread is an insult to the entire community.

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[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
I respect your opinion but I do not agree.

If you have followed this thread since its beginning, you know to stop links to download three skins that their numbers can download the idea that if you liked that, I think I have already shared not-for-profit, but what I led to this position is the interest of the people in my latest skins and little interest in making a donation ridiculous.

If you are so interested in black fur and has been able to verify the quality and effort that entails made, I think make a donation will not cost so much effort and somehow I do encourage more.

It may be that you do not want to make any donation, I do not understand what compels anybody, you have two options very simple to forget my fur or wait for the release for all, which is not much time for that to happen.

With regard to what you have to do moderators think it is exclusive to this decision, because I do not think that any harm on anyone.

Thank you for your comment.
[Windows Mobile Themes] ryncppr:
First and foremost, how do you want to try a skin out???? You see the skin, you know if you like it...its not like its customizable in anyway!!!!

Secondly, Here is my problem with your complaint...if you like the skins so much and don't want to donate try an build one yourself!!! I showed a preview a few days ago of the skin I am trying to develop and let me tell you one thing, its tough.... Pixels don't line up, buttons look weird, Icons don't match, ect.... Its not as easy as finding an icon, placing it in a program and whala it works.

I plan on releasing my skin in the near future because I enjoy learning a new program. (GIMP) But for you to expect an artist to just give away his hard earned work your nuts....

A perfect example is FTouch software, yes you can have the old version which seems to work fine, but if you want the newest version which is hands down much better FTouchSL you need to pay for it. So basically what I am saying is, if you don't want to donate for the skin don't, just don't expect to get a copy of the skin you want!!! or as you put it to try out.

Keep up the great work JAMILU007....:cool:
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Thank you for your words ryncppr.

Please aya peace, we do not want bad atmosphere between us.

At no time did I want to reach that people discuss. :eek:

All this does not help me change my position, be patient, all come in due course.:o
[Windows Mobile Themes] blazingwolf:
I think the major problem here is the use of the word "donate".

The definition of donate is:"To present as a gift to a fund or cause; contribute." (Got this from thefreedictionary.com)

So, if I was to give you money for the skins because I like them and I want to then that would be a donation, but I don't necessarily have to even though I have gotten something from you.

However, you are asking for money right off the bat. So this means you are selling the skins.

Definition of Sell:"To exchange or deliver for money or its equivalent" or "To exchange ownership for money or its equivalent; engage in selling" (again from thefreedictionary.com).

This is your right and I can't say that I blame you for the work you have put in to them but at the same time it is good to be upfront and honest about it.

In my opinion if you just say that you are selling the skins then there will be no more misunderstanding and all that want them will know they must pay to get them.
[Windows Mobile Themes] ryncppr:
SCLPC_RynCppr_Midnight SKIN

Here is my addition to the SCLPC skinning world...hope you all enjoy...let me know if there is any problems as this is my first attempt at this!!! :eek::eek::eek:

PREVIEW:
[Windows Mobile Themes] piphunter11:
damn nice!!

man!!

ur much appreciated!!!

i bet evrybody would benefit it ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Slither2006:
Donations and new Black skin.

Hi Jamilu007,

Man it's so funny reading the last few posts....I've had this discussion a few times in the past. I don't mind anyone getting donations for work they have done and are providing for free. This includes applications, skins/images or even clever config files that in the end help the user.

I think to avoid this discussion arising again maybe you should state "Please donate if you like using my skin and appreciate the ammount of time it took me to create it....you may donate for that reason and not any other :)

That's a friendly way to say it with a clear reason for the user to donate. Back to skins....I've tried the black skin and find it wonderful! Thanks for your contribution to SCLPC++ and the XDA community Jamilu007! :)

Keep the skins coming guys they're looking great!

Please no flaming guys.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Slither2006:
What he said! :) Great job!
[Windows Mobile Themes] brunoisa10:
hi man

great job

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] brunoisa10:
I agree with you

Jamilu : yo have posted the first DL and then removed after seeing many guys want to test them

It is not the goal of this community to sell the job before testing , I was ready to donate first and Now sure I never do , too bad attitude

What I understand is that WHEN you realise it is great and so you want us to pay your icons and so on. Hopefully many guys don't do like that here

SURE IT IS VERY NICE . JUST THE WAY SOUNDS BAD ASKING DONATING TO SEND PRIVATE MAILS. FOR ME YOU COULD PROOVE YOUR GOODNESS BY GIVING A DL
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Well this well, and to be completed discussion.

He restored links to fur who got the first post of this thread.

You can download skins without donating nothing.

The skins Black_Azul and Black_Color are no longer available for anyone, for moral reasons.

The last project that was working HOME 2 Jamilu I canceled.

I hope that they enjoy the work and finish this discussion.

I apologize to all if my intention has been misinterpreted did not want to do any business with all this.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jiv0077:
Black Skin

Not trying to start any bad blood, but if I donated could I get the black skin?
[Windows Mobile Themes] adomila:
Bible icon request

Hi JAMILU007, would it be to much to ask, if I request for a Bible icon? Thanks.

- the best things in life, are for free... this is definitely one of them...
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
For skin wants..?

If I tell you that if not worth anything of the above.
[Windows Mobile Themes] adomila:
Originally Posted by adomila

Hi JAMILU007, would it be to much to ask, if I request for a Bible icon? Thanks.

For the very first/music(headset) icon. The Lord comes first before anything else :) I hope it wouldn't be too much of a bother.
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
adomila.

Excuse me but that the translator does not understand well

Want an icon of the Bible in the first menu in place of Headset (MUSIC) .. Right ..?

From that we ablando skin ...?
[Windows Mobile Themes] blazingwolf:
It's sad that you have decided to do this but it is up to you.

I believe that if you would have clearly stated what was happening with your skins none of this would have happened.

Good luck to you JAMILU007. :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ryncppr:
DO you have a Bible Icon you want used???? If not I'll post a few tell me which one you want and I'll insert it into my skin for you if you like it!
[Windows Mobile Themes] nblakqori:
guys, i have a sugestion.

since every body uses their own particular programs and therefore need particular icons of taste, i will provide some links that i found in the net, that teaches how to work with graphics. in this way every body will be able to costumize their skins and of course share it with the forum.

personaly i have made two skins (alien skin and the D skin, i got the icons from the internet as freeware and costumized a skin).

for begining:

here are some nise collection of icons: http://www.crystalxp.net/galerie/en.6.12.scat.1.html

here are some nice tutorials (very helpfull): http://forum.crystalxp.net/index.php?showforum=28

just so u know to make a nice skin (when u have the material) it probably takes couple of days.

but i think it would be beautifull if more people start working on graphics, so that the skin library will become very rich

PS.

i love the work of Jamilu007, it is high class.
[Windows Mobile Themes] adomila:
yes, if it is not too much to ask.

do you mean "abandon" instead of "ablando"? if yes, then, i guess there is really much more i could ask :confused: please reconsider and don't abandon us, you're the one who started this. just don't mind the negative feedbacks and focus on the positive side...
[Windows Mobile Themes] adomila:
Hi ryncppr, please do post the Bible icons so i/we could choose. TIA. :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] douginoz:
It's worth noting that on the first page of this thread, the author gives away some skins. The others you get if you donate. So perhaps a way of looking at it is that the artist is contributing his artistic skill to the community; you are free to download some of that, and if you like it, you can donate. If you donate, you get even more of his artwork.

As for those demanding they get everything free, get real, get over it, or move on. The only thing you get for free is advice, and it's worth what you paid for it.

As you can see, making a big deal about having to donate has made the artist make some choices, so now you lose out. That's the real world. I suggest you contemplate your place in it.
[Windows Mobile Themes] brunoisa10:
Hi Jamilu

well done :)

what is your next project ?

do you want to workwith slither making the cube self customizable , like changing icons or background ( like Fonz)

happy to see there was a misunderstanding and now all is good

have a nice day :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
If I want to say "leave" as I echo my last project on which he was working, I stopped and I do not think that what ends

Right now my morale is on the floor and I am not wanting to do anything else.

Enjoy fur is on the top of this thread are free and I hope will be useful.

Can I say for skin wants the icon of the Bible.

If you need any more can let me know.

Example:

Skin ....Menu......Position....icon ....
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Well recovered morality, I have decided to continue to make more skins, these new skins will be available to all those who make a donation, do not bother to say that I may not believe that the skins of the first post of this thread already have enough guarantee that they are good and warm maximum.

Any excuse is a sign of wanting to profit from others without giving anything in return.

The skins are under construction and I think in a couple of days and I will be terminated.

I leave you some pictures.

Skin Home 2_________________Skin Black Neon

he rest of skins are also available.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Moe5508:
Dude, I can understand it must be hard-work putting out all these beautiful skins, but I've always had a problem with developers who start out on a free forum and then realise, based on take-up in that free forum, that they'd like to "commercialise" their product. You probably would have lost interest in working on this project if no one in this forum had shown the slightest interest and given some feedback, but heck what do I know???? Think about what would happen though if all the ROM chefs and other great developers here suddenly said they'd release their work only to people who made a donation?
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
I understand what they say but I am not going to think about donating all my work.

I have already given 4 skins without asking for anything in return.

I do not want to start over with these issues, I am doing the skins are for those who donate something and others already have 4 of the first post of this thread.
[Windows Mobile Themes] blazingwolf:
That black neon skin looks great. I'm glad you are back to making skins. :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Skin HTC Home2 finished.

Continuous skin Black Neon.
[Windows Mobile Themes] eumel79:
Excuse me, but it sounds here only for product advertising, maybe you should go out a shop. :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Skin Black Neon finished.

I hope they like, whether they have any idea for a new skin, I try to make it, I am open to suggestions.

Soon liberare some skin so they can download those not wishing to donate.

Thanks to those who have donated what they could.
[Windows Mobile Themes] udgn:
Keep up your work look really great and I saw your post in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=358102&page=112

Nice!!!!
[Windows Mobile Themes] udgn:
will donate soon.
[Windows Mobile Themes] und3rmysp3ll:
Please Choose ONLY One!

FAME OR FORTUNE (Please choose ONLY one!!!)

I think you need to answer this question the next you decide to post your next skin.

The Defination of Donation:

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Donation \Do*na"tion\, n. [L. donatio; cf. F. donation.]

1. The act of giving or bestowing; a grant.

After donation there an absolute change and alienation of the property of the thing given. --South.

2. That which is given as a present; that which is transferred to another gratuitously; a gift.

And some donation freely to estate On the bless'd lovers. --Shak.

3. (Law) The act or contract by which a person voluntarily transfers the title to a thing of which be is the owner, from himself to another, without any consideration, as a free gift. --Bouvier.

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Everyone on this post and this mainly throughout this website is for sharing and developing their work. The majority do it for the following reasons.

1. They Share to get themselves known and make other friends.

2. They Share because it helps, evolves and furthers future developments..

3. They Share because its in beta stage and their working out the bugs.

4. They Share because someone wanted it and they had it. And wanted to share and give it to them.

"MANDATORY DONATIONS". Your EXPECTATION of a donation is a contradiciton of the word Donation! Someone chooses to give an donation. Its their choice to give the gift.

Donations is NEVER expected, but Always appreciated! That Expectation makes you unappreciative if you get a donation.

Like it was your choice to share and your choice to stop or not.

The irony, people really like your style and work. And they are the same people you are criticizing as ungreatful users for not making a donation. I couldn't believe you referenced the amount of downloads you had. And then you compared how much more you had compared to others people who shared their work.

I don't want to sound or come off like I am flaming this post. Hopefully you will concider what I have to say before you make another post like this one.

You need to check out the other users who share their work. You will find the following:

1. The more people download it tell them how much their work is being appreciated!

2. They do it to help out and they ask for beer (or icecream) as gratutity for their hard work.

I know how much time and creativity goes into creating anything. If you need to be paid for that, which I think you should, you should ask for payment and not for a donation. By selling your work you will avoid all future disappointment of people not donating. You need to be more upfornt like the other people expect compensation of their work.

Remember "MANDATORY DONATIONS" is the same thing as SHAREWARE.

I hope you continue your work because your extremely talented.
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Next release of all furs.

His words have made me change his attitude and I want to prove that the persigo not get rich with the donations that may be made by the people.

In the first post of this thread as I have seen I felt that discharges to the work performed released.

The response to all this has been a couple of thank-seven grants, this is what brought me to anger and why I take the decision to give my new work who valued truth and showed me with a simple penny, because I never have put a price on my works, the price it has to be the making and appreciates things well done.

My intention is to reach all my work and that there are many people who do not have a Paypal account to make a donation, it makes me feel bad and I want to see these people also enjoy my work.

For this reason, as I said I am going to change my way of acting and liberare all skins for the entire world and that is able and willing to conduct a donation.

I do not know if I arepentire of this decision, what happens after d continue doing that now depends more skins for SCLPC + + 51 and 52.
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Already have available all the skins on the first post.

I hope to be liked by everyone and see their comments that they seem.
[Windows Mobile Themes] douginoz:
Seriously Jamil, stop making any more skins for free if people are so rude as to demand that all your work is given to them for nothing. Having a few available to everyone for free should satisfy most people. The remaining inconsiderate, rude people getting irate and insisting that this site is only for free stuff can go back to downloading torrents and ripping off everything else they normally do.

Piss off, idiots.
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Neither Fame or Fortune or Gratitude

Thanks doubinoz, by his words that I think like me and understands my anger.

I will have to direct everyone to know that I think all this.

At first I leave available to all skins for some as a test devices in their not-for-profit, with a message that made it clear that if liked my job well could make some DONATION.

The downloads were fired and only two or three messages of thanks and no donations were the result of this work, it did me grow and continue my work to make more and better skins.

The result of this chooses to give my skins only to those who make a donation, that angered a few who immediately found a little time to air their grievances through messages.

Popravi my position and I came back was climbing skins for all I could download and store the latest made to reward those who make a donation.

This naturally not happy that many arremetieron with more force, making boast knowledge of the Dictionary and exposing the meaning of the word donation, but those words got to change my position and I decided to give his work freely to all thinking of those who did not could donate and that he could not compel anyone has make a donation in exchange for my skins.

Well right now we are already So a couple of days ago to release the skins and I would like to see a message of thanks, I think today is not yet charged, nor need to have a Paypal account, simply discharged while the skin I think we could do.

From und3rmysp3ll friend, I do not expect any household, I suppose finish tired of his last message on the forum or perhaps this busy trying skins, it was not me, I hope he enjoys them.

But let me tell you this and the many who are hanging out for these forums to hunt things free and testers, people who put their time for you and people like you to enjoy the best in his SRP deserves at least some simple thanks.

For others say thank you for your great gratitude and say that I had withdrawn shortly links for downloads and FREE pass available to those who make any GRATIFICACION.

Thanks again to all.
[Windows Mobile Themes] tjkhattak61:
JAMILU007, whatever other says about you, I only say this that you have a beautiful heart and those with beauty in their hearts can only produce the kind of art that u r doing. Great man keep it up and do as u like, I am with u through and through.
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
As I see the SCLPC + +0052 is it slow somewhat, I suppose that the good Slither2006 want to start it with all errors repaired, I have to make a couple of skins more.

I begin today, and this is what I have for the moment.

I hope you think that comment.

tjkhattak61 Thanks ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Another new item in production, will be available shortly.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Polleke-MF:
oops wrong topic
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
He wants to say that he does not like the Topic ..? Because ...?

Options two.
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Skin in Construction
[Windows Mobile Themes] curious george:
No. He isn't saying he does not like the topic. He is posting that he originally noted in the wrong topic and corrected himself. I believe.
[Windows Mobile Themes] VooDoo1:
Downloaded...but how do you install it?
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
I thought Polleke-MF, meant he did not like the subject, has never had to say anything on this thread.
[Windows Mobile Themes] JAMILU007:
Hello VooDoo1.

Requests you how to install the skin, has been commented on this thread but you recall.

I guess you know the program created by the master Slither2006.

Talking about the now famous SCLPC++ version 0051, if not you know it I suggest you pass on his thread.

Once installed SCLPC++ in your PPC only has to download my skin extract the file. RAR on your PC and copy the entire contents within its CFP / Application Data / SCLPC++, below the CPP and restart when you run SCLPC + +. Exe already seem with the new look.

I hope this clarification of doubts, if not well do not hesitate to ask us for that.