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[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] gargyagotra:
Huawei strategy of focusing on AI in form of this dedicated AI chip is certainly unique but it comes with an inherent disadvantage that a regular user will not be able to understand the benefits of improved performance, localized processing, better battery life etc. unless the app developers invoke the NPU for AI based tasks? How are you planning to overcome this challenge in marketing the potential of your phone to the developer community and regular users at large? It would be great if you can publish the list of apps (Both Huawei made as well as third party) who are currently or planning to leverage the NPU capability of this phone?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] mini01:
Will you give kernel / hardware driver to xdadeveloper, so lineageos can be run in best quality on the View 10?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Pramodkumawat:
You guys are making good products but how you can beat others like samsung, Google and all any idea about it. And one more thing what is pratical uses of npu.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] FiKsTyLeR:
Does Honor and Huawei working together or as other company?

if its a different company, Can you bring updates faster than Huawei?

because huawei is known for their long updates, even for their flagship phones..
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] mke1973:
NPU supposedly will learn what apps a user opens frequently and reserve more power for them before they're opened. Can't this degrade performance over time?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] sablehiman:
I really liked the design of view 10, it has kept the 3.5mm jack and still managed to keep the thickness of 7mm also the fingerprint sensor is kept on the front of the device. My questions are

1.How will other apps take advantage of the new npu, will there be any api for app developers?

2. For promoting custom Rom usage will there be a within warranty bootloader unlock?

3.How open will the development around the npu will be ? Will the source code be released?

4.In case of apps with on-device machine learning capabilities will the dataset training done on the npu or only the dataset testing part will be performed using the npu?

5. Why is the rear secondary camera a monochrome sensor and not a wide angle? What benefits does it provides?

6.How much power will the npu use as compared to the cpu and the gpu?

7.In case of bricked device, will there be any tool which will help recover the device?

8.Is the npu used for image stabilization?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] honor_ninja95:
How does the Honor View 10 camera identifies the objects based on scenes ? How does it adjusts the camera mode on the basis of scenes it detected ?

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What is the future of NPU and AI in smartphones and its effects on making life easy?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] amdultra:
As the the honor view 10 is the first few devices that have npu built in with npu chip, how much it can impact most real life scenario usage ? object recognition in camera is the most mentioned one in article in google, so can you spell a few other things for regular case that will get tremendous help with the AI and NPU chipset?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Pradish:
Why do you think that i should go for View 10 than 7x
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] sscsps:
What was the worst decision you had to make while designing the "View 10"
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] sxcs1991:
Is there any dedicated DAC or amplification available in View 10? How is the Hi-Res audio playback quality?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Erbsenkönig:
Do you plan on keeping a headphone jack on future phones?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] GedeonTaylor:
AI camera means that it can recognize objects and different things, so the phone adjusts everything for you to take the best shot possible.

No, and it can't come to older devices because this software needs a specific hardware to work. Now it's the Kirin 970 only.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] drwazi:
1.How is cost efficiency comparing better camera hardware(sensor+lens) to improving camera output through software tweaks essentially brought about by AI(including cost of developing cores+coding)?

2.How is NPU computation different from Main core computation(cant same algorithms run on main core)?

3.does Hauwei collaborate with leica in producing top quality hardware in camera?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] themms63:
1. What makes the new chipset different from the Snapdragon 845?

2. Can the AI enabled chipset detect hardware issues?

3. Does the rear camera setup have a wide angle lens?

4. How efficient is the new Kirin chipset in terms of gaming and multitasking?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] dying_sun:
Hello, I'd like to know if Honor V10 will have the same functionalities as Mate 10/Mate 10 pro and if you plan in future to "elevate" Honor, because actually is often considered as a sub-brand of Huawei, that is not really true for most of us that have tried both brands (I have now a Honor 9 and i prefer it respect to the "different twin" P10). Honor website is a little poor, graphically and in content. Furthermore, will you plan to redesign the interface (also separating Huawei EMUI from Honor EMUI), that is obsolete and not really pleasing to use compared to more modern UI's? You will improve upgrades policy, that for me is a little insufficient in Honor products? I had my first Huawei about seven years ago, my first honor when it was not a brand yet (U8660) and I have seen the marvelluos growth of Huawei, but some issues are unresolved yet :)

Thanks for this opportunity, have a nice day

Flavio (Italy)
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Setemkia:
Concerning the NPU, will it be available to developers for the creation of new apps? That is, is there a way to train the neutral net and later use the trained net as part of an application?

Will the NPU be used for hand writing recognition?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] love4chat:
Are We Going To Get A Budget Segment Phone With NPU?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Jagjot9:
How will the Kirin 970(along with the NPU) stack up against the Snapdragon 835(or the forthcoming Snapdragon 845)? Will the AI image processing on the Honor V10 be better than the software image processing on the Pixel 2? Also, lastly, besides image processing and other basic functions, what will the AI and NPU help the V10 accomplish?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] noniboyba:
question

did you incorporate kill switch for NP unit if it turns on me sometime in the future?:D thx
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Narasimha94:
NPU section & Facelock

Is the NPU SECTION designed only for camera section ???

Is there any AI powered facelock is present for major security purposes(payments,encryption) etc....?????? :confused: :confused:
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] henkka22:
Why Huawei makes rooting very hard.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] espectro2004:
NPU + End User Security

Hi,

Does Honor intend on using NPU to aid in device security, helping already built-in features detect and mitigate potential threats?

As we all know, mobile devices are now a prime target and some websites implement tactics for data exfiltration and crypto mining. Can a NPU help on cybercrime defense?

Cheers,

Antonio
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] DRTigerlilly:
Will Honour allow their phones to have custom roms ? Is the bootloader unlocked?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] AmineKa:
Why

please Why did you changed the name from V to View?:confused:
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] kishansharma:
Hi i am from india and my question is what is the price of the phone bcs yaha price ka bot fark parta he
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] diablo009:
SAR Rating

What are the SAR ratings of this phone?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Moonss:
What is different between AI used in Honor v10 and Mate 10 pro?

Will it be updated according to EMUI?

What is different between AI used in Honor v10 and Mate 10 pro?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] abdiessa:
Can be use FM Radio without headphone?

Is there's streaming when playing the musics?

Which one is better for unlocking (Face ID or Fingerprint)?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] snowman81:
How is Honor able to offer such good specs and features for so much less money than the competition?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] sethengine:
Do all android applications that make use of Neural Network API benefit from the Kirin 970 SoC's NPU?

Thank you!
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] grey30e:
U.S. LTE Bands

Hi, when will the Honor View 10 be released in the U.S. with U.S. LTE bands (for T-Mobile and AT&T)?

Thank you.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] TechnoHackerPro:
AI is Dangerous

Isn't AI dangerous for us?

What if this mobile automatically call someone or send text since it AI powered and can learn by time..:D;)

i dont trust any of AI device .. i'm with elon Musk
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] tommihut:
When it's coming to Finland?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] showstopper1:
Simple one, future of honor projects and vision, with this much rapid pace and pickup in the past 2 years, im curious to know about your future plans to keep this huge fan and user base intact with the brand for the upcoming years ?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] robogo1982:
The NPU, at least for now, apparently has limited capabilities that are visible to the user (scene recognition in the camera).

Is the NPU unit on the Kirin 970 actually a preparation for something bigger in the future?

Cheers! :)
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] akillenb:
Will it be possible to have 2 sim cards AND a microSD inserted at the same time
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Ricbug:
When was the idea born to integrate AI in smartphone ?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] scouser_chris:
Honor view 10

how many people can win is it just one Honor view 10 :D
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] iamsabresh:
Ask honor

My questions to Honor are -

1) Is NPU going to be the future of smartphone processing ?

2) Do you believe one can achieve a fully capable AI that can operate offline with the help of NPUs in the future ?

3) The AI implementation on the Honor V10 is focused more towards camera. How do you think you could improve it's utility in the future with software updates ?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] chan1628:
how does the AI processor help with improving the camera experience?

What are the technical improvements over the top-tier cell cameras currently on the market?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] falcon7204:
There are so many smartphones out there now, it takes a lot for one to stand out. Do you believe neural processing is enough to distinguish you from your competitors, or will you be doing other things to gain top of mind awareness with smartphone users? What will it take to make the Honor 10 a standout product?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Redn2000:
Custom rom support?

I have a few questions regarding regular support, and custom ROM support like LineageOS. As well as one about carriers.

1. Will you allow users to flash custom recoveries on this device such as TWRP or will you be locking the bootloader?

2. Will you release what's needed to properly develop custom ROMs for this new device?

3. How long will this device be supported with OS updates?

4. How well will this device work with the larger US carriers? I'm an AT&T user and would like to be able to keep my service if possible.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Chainbrendon:
Are you implying that it thinks for its self like a brain as your calling it an NPU and not just a collection of great programming like most AI/Assistants?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] devil188:
How long have you been developing and researching this technology to integrate it into your chipset? I can imagine that these things take tons of time.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] snaily trail:
If the phones learns by studying your behaviour, is it spying on you? What data does it actually collect and send, and how is this encrypted?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Newthorn:
Interesting....

:eek: Reading the questions and replies has been "Interesting" to say the least. I like so many others have many questions on this and sooooo many concerns, Is this just going to be a test device or is it going to be integrated into all of the devices produced by Honor?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Miguelet:
Can the new honor VIEW10 connect to the cable monitor and be able to use it as the mate10? :confused:
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] dahndahnbo:
I am intersted tu buy this phone but i must know one thinks before, can you confirm excatly the frequences bands that will be supported on the european version of the honor V10 that will be lunched on the 08/01/18, and also the support for future update
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Here's what I've got from GSMArena:

LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500)
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] GedeonTaylor:
No, only one sim and a microSD or two sim cards, but I'm totally fine with it because you can't see often flagships with SD support at all..
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Unfortunately, no
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] oldtimefighter:
EMUI is not for everyone as you know. Will Honor ever offer phones with a near Stock Android experience?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Gazzasore:
Will the Honor View 10 be fully compatible with Linux?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] xdordinary:
When and where can I buy one?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] raitz:
Is Honor planing on making a bigger (6+ inches) screen phones?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] a-anik:
What's your deal with double tap to wake gesture? Why is it disabled by default on honor phones?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] adfds:
Will the NPU decrease battery life?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] MohamedYoseif:
Hello dector. .

Some other proccesser are fast. .but I notice you mention Kirin 970 like you want to say buy it becouse that. ...

Tell me more about Kirin 970 and compere if possible. .

Thanks a lot
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] eng_kareem:
Why you choose to place Fingerprint sensor on the front, this effects on screen to body ratio?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] GedeonTaylor:
Maybe because of the NPU the phone uses a bit more power, but it has a massive 4000mAh battery so don't worry! ;)
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] skyline91:
how will NPU improve picture quality?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] afroman1888:
Will Huawei/Honor release an SDK to implement the NPU in AI dependent applications?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Cienight:
One question only :

Are you going to include an ois module in the future honor phones?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] jdfjunk:
honor view 10 camera and AI

how does the honor view 10 differ from the mate 10 in terms of camera quality?

can you provide AI (potential) abilities besides the battery optimization and camera scene recognition?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] nosybummer:
What is the kind of storage used in this phone..emmc or ufs???

.its not anywhere mentioned in the advertisement and articles about this phone..
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] NithinM96:
How will the Npu coordinate camera and other tasks in view 10 & how is the data obtained for machine learning
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Dipaditya Das:
Does it supports official bootloader unlocking and rooting of the device?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Yassane:
why the other people buy a phone with a price of 1000+$$$ and leave this perfect phone with a perfect price??:crying:
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Erick-kewone:
How can AI help to improve an image with the pixels that are already there?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Dipaditya Das:
Does it will slow down with future updates?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Abdullah S.A.:
An new series of Honor phones?

So since the Honor View 10 is officially launched, will this mean that there will be a new series of Honor phones with a fullview display? What I am trying to ask is: will there be a successor to this phone in the coming years. If yes, is it also going to have Honor Fullview Display? Thank you in advance
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Riyuzaki:
how the new AI cpu will do with battery use
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] MrBrobot:
This phone looks absolutely fantastic, but what are your plans to help people understand how beneficial the NPU can be, as that seems to be your main selling point? It's definitely something to consider when you have the appeal of cheap but well-designed phones, such as the OnePlus line.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Jagan1996.theking:
Is this honor view 10 has Gyroscope sensor?

Is it support VR video?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Babu mani:
1)How long does it took to train npu? And the AI features used only to recognize face and to detect the 13 characters in camera! Is it's ture itzz trained for such an long Time to save battery and to recognize 13 character in camera ?

2)Kirin 970 made of 5.5billion transistors & npu has 1.5million transistors which is less den 3% of whole chip.do u think this tiny thing can save 50% of battery and increase 25% performance ? Kirin 970 itself a powerful chip with 10nm architecture and tis was enough to an powerful SOC instd of adding npu to 970

3)in the launch event you said it will take a week to an single employee to optimize an app to use the npu,it has been more den 50days after the release of hiAi API and Kirin 970 developer kit,how many 3rd party appz are now npu optimized? what abt in future ? When there is no app which is npu optimized,how does npu can save battery and increase performance ?

4)On board AI is better den cloud, but does this collects huge amount of data ? As far as I know Ai's are hungry for data,how much data does this chip collect ?how safe is my data? For example if I lose my phone,with that tiny chip personal data can be extracted ?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] wAFFLES017:
what is a couple of main differences between the View 10 and the Mate 10?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] GedeonTaylor:
Some of the differences is that the v10 has a 5.99" display vs the mate 10's 5.9. Another differece is the mate 10 has only 4 gb ram, the v10 has 6gb. The v10 has facial unlocking, but metal housing, not glass. These are the main differences. :)
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Jawda:
What the future of NPU and AI ????
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] slezica:
Are there plans to include any VR application that takes advantage of the new AI functions and scene recognition?.

Can be used in games for a interaction like "xbox Kinect"?.

PS: A vote to include again an application like the "Director mode" of the Huawei P8, which allowed to record video from several phones and change the active camera with a touch, I miss that since I upgraded to P9!.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Gazzasore:
How long before the Honour View 10 will be superseded by the Next model
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Sandhusaab:
Does it have gorilla glass protection??

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Does this has a board powered AI powered voice assistant like the cloud powered alexa and google assistant??
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] magoooood:
UAE availability

I was wondering if this phone is going to be available in Middle East e.g. UAE? why just Europe, UK and India?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] spookyspookster:
Does unlocking the bootloader on Honor 10 View still require Huawei ID?

Does it have a warning screen on boot up that the device is not trustworthy like I have seen on some Huawei phones when you've unlocked the bootloader?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Droid187:
This phone looks awesome, great specs as well. Will this device have device have NFC? Also, will this phone have an unlocked boot loader and be 'developer-friendly'? I would really love to get my hands on a great phone with great specs and doesn't come all locked up like Samsung phones. Don't let me forget about keeping the OS open for us XDA members can customize the crap out of it and give tutorials on how everyone else can too.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] leisurebird:
what kind of memory will be built in the view 10 - emmc or ufs?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Badcatalex:
1. What assistant will it use?

2. What version of Android will it run on launch?

3. What is the screen's resolution?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] erzumin:
Are you planning to use this “AI” feature in the future like in some kind of personal assistent like Bixby or Google assistant or is it only applicable to the camera.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] AngryUserLG:
why go with View instead of just using V?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] BlackKnight23:
From what I believe read the View 10 has USB 2.0, if this is true why not a USB C? Does the phone support Carrier aggregation? RCS (advanced messenging) on Tmobile?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] mfhkts:
How NPU work? And How it differ from CPU.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Antonis1983:
Treble and UFS 2.1

The Honor View 10 looks like a great phone. Since it comes out with Android 8 out of the box, does it support project Treble? Also is the internal memory UFS 2.1?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] antariksh:
Why choose Microsoft over Google for AI implementation?

You expect the View 10 to be on par with Pixel 2 in terms of Portrait mode as you have NPU to process the objects in frame (including the front cam)?

Will both lens have OIS?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] PloniAlmoni:
This looks like a great phone, but is your Honor 6x going to get Oreo? I appreciate getting phones from vendors who have good Android upgrade support.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] 21-Savage:
I just want to know just how intelligent this supposed AI will be. I really want to learn about the NPU. Is this a phone that will push new limits for smartphones? Anybody is allowed to answer this as well.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] deepankarverma:
what about this phone with pure Android!!
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] Ivanvizox:
La NPU también mejorará con las actualizaciones?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] AltLock:
Does the View 10 have anything unique besides the NPU?

Personally I don't make that many photos and I don't really need translate. I believe there will be more people like me who ask; What makes the View 10 unique besides the whole AI thing?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] GedeonTaylor:
The phone uses google assistant, and what you can't see is the AI under the hood.

It comes with Android 8.0.0 ;)

The screen resolution is 1080 x 2160 pixels, 403 ppi.

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Honor said because of the big screen which is true, but some people think it might changed because lg had a phone named v10 so Honor explained the letter 'v' in the naming ;)

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It's not an iphone ;)

Honor won't slow phones, apple does.
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] yvsmadhav:
AI in a phone

I am not sure how AI on a phone is going to help. Will it make the phone takeover completely of the lives?
[Honor View 10 Questions & Answers] akehank:
what is sound chip dac?