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[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Hayeni:
Just for the info I have done it twice, flashing other versions other than my original one BLA-L09C316 and the security patch & kernel got updated to 1 January 2018 without changing my model. For example I flashed BLA-L09C432B128 and it went through, but after that I am still on BLA-L09C316B115. All is still good and VoLTE & wifi calling are both working.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pacman1969:
Where are you located. I am mate 10 non pro c432 and am based in Ireland. I am on 125
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] cyvr1:
Germany/BLA-L29 (Mate 10 Pro)

Update on BLA-L29 8.0.0.129(C432) received last Friday (02.02.18)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maxama123:
BLA-L29 8.0.0.131 (C636) - 533mb download for Mate 10 Pro updated in Melbourne Australia via Telstra 4G Network.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Cephalus:
My ALP-AL00 (with ALP-L29 firmware) just asked for permission to re-boot to install the .131(C636) update. This is the second OTA update I've received since getting the 'phone.

Release notes indicate that they've added VoLTE and VoWiFi (for carriers providing those services), along with the usual run of minor tweaks and Google security patches.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] avilif9990:
L29c576 118

Still no update
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] abnobre:
BLA-L09 8.0.0.125(C605)...

Unbox was today. No updates available. Will this variant receive updates?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Setting.Out:
Please forgive my ignorance.. I bought my device from an online seller in Singapore.. I have an Alp-l29 (c636) firmware (installed originally I'm assuming).. I'm living in France, so a Europe version would seem to be what I'd need.. I've read the OP, but am unsure of the region difference(s) as per the international versions.. I've been receiving updates, all my services seem to be working fine, but I'm wondering if a the "correct" version for Europe will provide better service/experience..

I've searched Google but can't find any documentation to give a satisfactory answer. The firmware app says I can flash another version on my device, but dont see any information about region dependency or functionality.. Any links or answers would be appreciated..

Thanks
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
One possible issue could be VoLTE and WiFi Calling non working with European carriers. Obviously, if you live in Europe, it would make sense to rebrand it to C432.

Oh, and another issue could be the warranty, meaning that Huawei will most likely ask you to send it in Singapore, in case you need repair assistance.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Setting.Out:
I don't have Volte through my carrier, nor use wifi calling.. So, no reason to change.. :) Lets hope I don't need warranty service.. :)

I do notice the built-in cloud service doesn't work, but I don't know if changing firmwares matters (plus I don't need the service)..

I was wondering more for ril, if the firmwares would effect my cellular or other radio function, or provide any better experience. I've seen that this firmware code should receive updates nearly as regular as others.

This is the longest I've stayed on a stock, unlocked, unrooted device.. :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
Yes, i forgot, cloud services also depend on your region.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] SirSeanM10Pro:
I assume you have a UK Huawei ID?

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Doesn't work. I assume when you cleared data, you went straight to the SG version?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] arianamirgholami:
When first I saw your commend i thought yes there maybe an issue but with iso/exposure choices

But now I updated I can tell that OIS doesn't work at all (however our phone has a secendery monochrome camera that they should be stabilized together and not having ois at first place is a better idea) but now we have it and they turned it off!

Do you have email addresses or something to report bugs?

Edit: and for that sound problem try turning histen 3D audio off its always better not having it for more details
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Tscope:
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/contact-us/

Yes Histen is turned off..

Please write to them so they can put attention to the different bug's
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Dominator916:
Mate 10 ALP-C636 9.1.0.301 August Security Patch
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Garri100:
Sorry, please tell me, did not notice changes in the camera? Stabilization works fine? Or stabilization does not work again?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maxama123:
Update from Melbourne Australia. 3.82Gb.

Note: I've received another large 3.5gb+ update.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Garri100:
Have you noticed any changes in the camera? Fixed stabilization?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] adisptr13:
Already update to emui 9.1 bla-l29 singapore version, so far i don't see any problem with these update but who knows later i just want huawei to fix the gesture, sometimes when i swipe up they're missread to recent apps even i didn't hold the gesture and it's annoying for me, the camera and video recording is good battery life still same like before, and i didn't factory reset it's fine right update without reset ?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Shymmy:
After I updated to 9.1, in the same place (building with very thick walls) I had signal problems (the signal became weaker, from 4G/4G+ has jump to H/H+).

After returning to 9.0, I have 4G/4G+ in that place again.

In areas with good signal there are no problems.

Bucharest/Romania, BLA L-29, C432 version, Orange carrier.

PS: 9.0.0.246 vs 9.1.0.300.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Haroun:
Sad thing to hear about an ''Update''. Btw how did u go back to 9.0 my friend? Did u just dload 9.0.0.246? Thanks in advance.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Shymmy:
Back to 9.0 with HiSuite, from the PC.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Apad121:
UK id yes.

When I cleared data, I then back onto the Singapore region.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] eng_samy:
I don't have any signal problem after update, 9.1 has some issues need to be resolved but i can 100% confirm that 9.1 has no signal issue

BLA29 C185
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] dadito89:
How true is it that the camera is getting worse? Someone can affirm or deny it to me.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Garri100:
Yes, the camera is getting worse! Optical stabilization stops working. If you shoot video, then 1080p 30fps, then stabilization works and 1080p 60fps is just awful. As for the photo, that is, problems, the master does not always recognize scenes, auto focus slow picture is not half clear. I rolled back from 9.1 to 9.0
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] adisptr13:
No i dont have any problem with camera and video bla-L29 c636 singapore version and also the battery is very good with heavy user like me 21 hours and 7 hour screen on time, quiet amazing
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sampei:
Hi adisptr13.

I have one question, I also have singapore version BLA-L29 but after updated my phone to 9.1 then OTG function is not working.

Have you got this issue or not?

Thanks.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] adisptr13:
It's normal bro, flashdisk, external hard drive, card reader with 128gb microSD was working fine, i'm using Ugreen 3.1 OTG adapter
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Huezo147:
9.1 the camera works well for me I tested it in video and photos, recognition of scenes equal works, the AI does its job, in video it still stabilizes me well, you know if you are already launching the August security patch?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Garri100:
Are you shooting 1080p 60fps video? If so, try taking a walk while shooting and see how the picture jumps. I'm back at 9.0 and again everything has become excellent. I will wait when everything is fixed and then will upgrade to 9.1
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] andrei80:
Mate 10 and for that matter P20 series never had and never will have EIS for 60fps or 4k.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Garri100:
Then why, when I wrote to the support center, they answered me that in the next updates they will fix
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] andrei80:
They didn't get the part of you trying to get EIS at 60fps or don't know anything about it, or care much. Most of them are not that passionate about phones.

I have both the Mate 10 Pro and the P20 Pro and both have always laked EIS using 1080p 60fps and 4K. It's a known fact and quite annoyng and dissapointing that they never solved this problem. The good thing is that I am not really tempted to use 4k because I see it as a waste of space and don't own any 4k capable device. 60fps is less detailed and sometimes more fluid on many devices, so I'm not that interested in that either. Just botheres me that this should have been an easily fixable problem during the years these 2 flagship phone have been released.

On a more positive note, EIS works in 720p and 1080p 18:9 too...just tried
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Garri100:
Yes you are right

in 4k there is no stabilization, but at 60 fps at 9.0 the picture is much smoother and this can only be during stabilization.

But you are right, they should have solved this problem for a long time, the smartphone easily coped with it
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] adisptr13:
I'm normal too using 1080p 60fps for video the stabilizer work really well even when i'm walking or a little bit run

Huawei mate 10 pro BLA-L29
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Garri100:
EMUI 9.0 or 9.1?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] adisptr13:
Emui 9.1
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] andrei80:
Compare it to 30fps footage...

Also compare the field of view
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Garri100:
How to solve the notification problem on 9.1

Impossible to respond quickly say from the curtain
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] cheeze.keyk:
got the 9.1.0.306 update last night.

I think it's too big for just a security patch. lol
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Huezo147:
In which country you're getting it you already have 9.1?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Grumpy Cat:
Anyone else find it weird that a security patch is damn near 4 gigabytes in size? What the hell could Huawei be possibly adding or missing for that matter to justify the size?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] thor84sh:
You knew that Huawei switched to full Firmware Packages in preparation for an end of Android?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] PoLiThS:
Maybe OTA updates were braking things... What's the problem of a full ota package?

Sent from my Mate 10 pro
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] meltyburger:
im afraid to update mine to 9.1

can i still use googleplay and get updates?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] steelmaggot:
Huawei has changed the file system for the 9.1 update to EROFS, hence the 4GB Full OTA
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] cheeze.keyk:
Philippines. :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Haroun:
Well I've updated my ALP-L29 to 9.1 and this is my initial feedback:

Fingerprint sensor is more responsive and became slightly faster

Photo quality increased and I think AI is doing better especially in low light conditions

Didn't notice any difference in sound quality at all

Haven't tested video quality or stabilization (I don't take that many videos anyway so I'm not bothered) but I'll do some tests soon

Can't say a lot about battery performance but it doesn't look worse but I'll keep an eye on it.

Anyway this was my initial feedback, I'll keep updating you if anything comes up.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] eng_samy:
One more feedback to add regarding battery performance, i am sure that the battery performance has been improved in 9.1 vs 9. I am now getting around 6 hours of screen time vs 4.5 hours with Emui 9 with the same apps setup and usage behavior,

Speaker sound quality is not good and loud as it was with Emui 9 but you can live with it.

Pictures quality are almost the same with slight improvement in Emui 9.1
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] gqukyo:
I dunno when it was made available but I just updated to 9.1.0.321 (model ALP-AL00). Haven't used it much yet so can't say what really changed. I do know some of my themes no longer work as they were made for 9.0 Lol

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Yes you can, I know mine is a Chinese model and it already has Play store when I reset it and selected English.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Gremio1903:
Pleased,phone is fluid as fu*k,camera same,battery seems a bit worse but that's subjective

C432
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] myselector:
Some of the photos on mine are diabolical... Photos of my dog indoors look like oil paintings (my partners oneplus 3 are far more detailed). General outdoor photos are fine though.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
I find it really strange. Some seem to report very poor camera and device performance after update, yet others (including me) dont seem to notice any difference (I have BLA-L29 Mate 10 Pro).

And then there are the guys who complain EIS is not working on 1080p60 anymore when it never worked in the first place this is straight up ridiculous. Just go look at the spec sheets and reviews online. EIS only ever worked with 1080p30.

And saying the camera quality is "straight garbage" and "completely useless" without providing photo samples is hating for no reason. Night mode has improved and the Aperture mode takes crazy good pictures nowadays with progressive bokeh (much better than when i bought it 2017). Just check the pic of my 2 mates: The bottle in the front is blurred out, then my friends are in focus and on the ground you can see the rocks are in focus and progressively getting blurry and the people and the house in the background are smoothly blurred out aswell. Edge detection mostly on point.

I dont understand why some people always complain when there is clearly nothing wrong. At least provide some evidence for your claims so there can be a real discussion.

I'll start with some pictures I took since EMUI9.1 came thru. First and last are aperture mode, the others are nightmode vs normal mode (even normal mode photo is brighter than what I saw with my eyes, 11pm in Europe). Generally I think contrast and dynamic range is good, saturation is nice and natural with AI off (boosted to instagram level with AI on). If anyone thinks this quality is "useless garbage" then you need to get your eyes checked.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] wbrambley:
I could be wrong but is it the pro version users having issues? I'm alp-l29c636b300 and no camera issues here.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] andrei80:
Can't see any issues whatsoever. I think battery is a bit worse, but I started using the revamped AoD, so...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] wbrambley:
301 up for alp-l29 c636 in nz. Just security patches?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Huezo147:
I have the pro version, and I can say that it goes very well both on camera and on battery, the video is correct at 30fps and the photos there was a slight improvement in both night and automatic mode, the front camera I feel that also improved a little
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] domy_os:
I got the same, don't understand why is almost 4 GB again...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] adisptr13:
New update huawei mate 10 pro bla-l29 singapore version
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] eng_samy:
Very urgent, anyone please to send me Huawei email client for mate 10 pro 9.1.0.300

I was trying to remove account and data files, it asked me to uninstall the application which is very strange to be able to delete system app !!!

Anyone to share the app with me please
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] xdauser013:
If you reset your phone the email app will be back normally, unless your phone is rooted and you haven't use the normal way to deleted from system.

I'll be glad to share it with you but like you i always deleted after every reset :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] eng_samy:
Yes, reset will restore the apps..but the reset will cost me backing up and restoring more than 80 Gigabyte of data including 4 mail accounts, 4 whatsapp and around 25 app settings. That's way i am requesting your help to send me the apk to install it back
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] boofman:
Just got 9.1.0.300 two days ago, ALP L29, Philippines. Everything works so far
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] myselector:
One of these is in good light outside....

The other is in reasonable light inside.

For the inside picture (and many many others) my partners oneplus 3t in full auto mode takes a much sharper, clearer more detailed photo.

I find the camera VERY hit and miss.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Grumpy Cat:
Use this app if sound kind of sucks after update.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.audiosmaxs.bassboostermusic
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] eng_samy:
Anyone please to share with me stock email client app as per my previous post
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Dominator916:
I uploaded the stock email app, hopefully it's the right one you're looking for

https://www.mediafire.com/file/bht4o1bz6vigg50/Email-com.android.email-901000345-v9.1.0.345.apk
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] eng_samy:
Many thanks for your effort, really appreciated,

Please let me know your android version?

Mine is : 9.1.0.300 C185
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Dominator916:
Mate 10 ALP-C636 9.1.0.301
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] eng_samy:
Unfortunately the version you send not working on my device.

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Please anyone to share with me email client app for mate 10 pro 9.1.0.300 C185.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Dominator916:
Sorry to hear that mate
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] hamadazh:
try this

https://www.mediafire.com/file/i0euii363xzph0o/com.android.email.apk/file
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Grumpy Cat:
Ok so there are definitely camera issues since the 9.1 update. Exposure levels with video are far better at 1080p with 30 FPS over 1080p with 60 FPS. That's most noticeable in darker situations. OIS not working at 1080p with 60fps in video mode, only EIS I think. There is also quite a bit of camera lag in addition to OIS. And did Huawei add EIS to the front camera? There is more camera lag but the image is more stable, this is also in video mode.

Anyone else noticing these issues, contact Huawei for a fix immediately. The Mate 10 is coming up to its end of support cycle.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
1st:

OIS is always on. Optical image stabilization is HARDWARE stabilization, which means it is the way the lenses are built inside the phone. You can tell if a phone has OIS if you grab it near the bottom and keep tapping it on the backside next to the cameras, it sounds like something is loose inside because the lenses are moving around. This stabilization is very subtle and mostly good for taking photos since it removes small movement. Mostly in low light it is usefull when exposure time is higher... it counters movement of your hand in the, for example 0.2 seconds exposure time, when the photo is taken. OIS during video recording almost does nothing as we all can see when recording 1080p60 or 4k30.

2nd:

EIS is SOFTWARE. Electronic image stabilization crops the area which the sensor uses to record a video. The information of the free area on the sensor around that is used to stabilize the video. That is why you will see a severe image crop when recording in 1080p30 with EIS on compared to 1080p60 or 4k30. It crops the frame and uses the information from the sides to stabilize the video using the gyro sensors data. This also happens when recording 1080p with the front camera. You can tell because if you go from photo to video mode there is a severe crop too. The picture below shows what I mean. The outer frame is what the sensor is capturing and the inner frame is the image you are recording. If you move the camera around the gyro sensor tells the camera how the phone is moving and it can counter the movement with the sensor information from the sides. The result is a stable video although the camera moved around (like walking).

The lag:

When EIS is on (only 1080p30 and lower resolutions, front and back camera because Kirin970 cannot handle more, EIS is very challenging for processors) the camera seems to "lag" because it is actively stabilizing. If you move your camra a little bit, it seems like the movement is delayed because it anticipates you to move back. If you move back, the recorded video would not move at all, hence the image would be stabilized (meaning you move the camera around but the frame stays the same). If the camera detects that you are not moving back it will adjust the frame. That is why it is happening with a slight delay. Overall that is the whole point of image stabilization: "make movement smoother".

Exposure 30 vs 60:

This is simple: With 30 frames per second it exposes better because it has twice the time for each frame to let light in compared to 60 fps.

Hope I could help you understand how the camera works a little better.

Short version:

OIS is always on because its hardware, EIS is software and needs a lot of processing power.

Kirin 970 can only handle stabilization in 1080p30 maximum (front and back camera) and has never been able to handle higher resolutions or framerates.

The "lag" is because EIS is on and looking to counter camera movement. If that movement is only one way it will adjust the frame with a slight delay.

Exposure in 30frames per second is better because each frame has twice the exposure time over 60fps.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Grumpy Cat:
Yes I am very aware of the differences between OIS and EIS, I'm merely pointing out the effectiveness of both between firmware versions and the Mate 10, and in my testing some areas are worse.

Also the Mate 10/Pro uses the 970, not the 960.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
Thatnks for pointing out. I meant 970 all along.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Huezo147:
Good on video if I feel a little drag when shooting, but when playing the video both in 30fps and 60fps goes perfect, no problem
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] andrei80:
Also, front camera always had EIS(at least from 9.0 on, I updated as soon as I got my Mate 10Pro)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Grumpy Cat:
Not for me it didn't, front camera was always jerky despite the setting, 9.1 has seemed to remedy that. Mate 10 ALP-L29
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Garri100:
Friends, when I wrote to the support center of the huavei that stabilization stopped working after the update, they told me that everything will be fixed in the next updates. If there were no electronic stabilization at 60 frames per second, they would not say anything, but they say they will fix it
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Grumpy Cat:
So that confirms the camera issues then? If Huawei have acknowledged they exist and will issue a fix then it's not just a few here experiencing them.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] andrei80:
Ok.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] joe `:
Anyone noticed slower charging speed (with stock charger & cable-supercharge) after 9.1 update?