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[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] Artmov:
Will this TGSP work with a case, more specifically with the RhinoShield Bumper?

Are there any comparisons between the Dome and InvisShield?

Is it possible to order the Dome TGSP as a backup and not the entire kit?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] ctrekd:
Yes this works with rhinoshield. They probably will but the replacement seems to be barely cheaper than buying the whole kit again it seems.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] zetsumeikuro:
For me there was a visible manufacturing defect right in the same spot where you cracked your protector. It was a fairly visible air bubble, basically a defect from when they were curing the glass. Just a little bit of force in the area caused my protector to crack right in the same spot.

They want $15 and some change for "shipping costs" + you have to pay return shipping for the defective protector under warranty. I think the kit minus the UV light is around $30~ if I remember correctly. Their warranty replacement process is costly and they want you to mail the product in first as opposed to putting a hold on your credit card.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
Ah now that makes sense. I thought you meant bubble in the application/glue and not the actual glass protector.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
I installed it. It's okay, just wish it had good oleophobic coating like my zaggs.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] kellybrf:
um...that's not something anyone's ever said about a zagg. this has the best oleophobic coating I've ever encounteredl
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] force70:
I agree, the only other one ive ever used which was close is intelliglass.

sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
Guess my zaggs were amazing and my friends. Whitestone grabs my fingerprints more than my zaggs.It is what it is
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] pipnmike:
I just received mine today and installed it tonight. Watched a couple of installation videos and went straight to it. Because of casing, the protector fits on perfectly. The biggest thing to pay attention to was releasing the pin as soon as the glue was in the middle of the screen. Just waited for the glue to spread all over and cured it. Very easy installation actually. The glass itself is very smooth, unlike any other cheap TGSP i've used on previous phones. Resists fingerprints pretty well. Pretty satisfied.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] zrepiV:
Not super happy with this. small air bubbles all over place so might have to reinstall .
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] mkouk:
I was sceptical about the Whitestone... very expensive, very complicated installation, combined with my OCD, I thought it would never work, especially the battle between time to install and dust particles making their way on the screen.

I received it today via Amazon UK. Watched a couple of videos to familiarise with the process and it turned out perfectly. I can't believe the difference in clarity compared to amFilm. It's like the screen is naked.

The only downside is coverage area, I'd have liked it to cover a slightly bigger area of the screen.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] Snow02:
Then you probably need to warranty return it because it's defective. I've got extremely oily skin, and I don't have to wipe the screen off except maybe once every few days. This has the best oleophobic coating I've seen.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
I'm having to do it 4-5x a day. I'll contact them, thanks!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] Snow02:
Yep. The only other thing i can think of is you could have possibly installed the glass upside down. I'm sure only one side is coated. Not likely that happened, but I'm sure it's happened to someone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
It feels like there's a coating but it's not super smooth and my finger doesn't just glide. I know I made sure I put it on right (I've watched like every installation video since it's been out for the note and s8). Now let's hope I can actually get in contact with someone
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] dmarden:
Just another voice of confirmation that the Whitestone product has, by far, the best fingerprint/smudge resistance of all the products that I tried before it (basically all of them).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] chriskwarren:
Are you able to see two small dots at the top and bottom of the protector near the speaker grill?

Installed this last night (became available on Amazon.ca unexpectedly so I jumped on it) and this is an incredible protector. The oleophobic coating is excellent. Absolutely no bubbles and the alignment is perfect. I am very, very picky about screen protectors and I am happy with this one. I am using it with the Spigen Rugged case and there is the right amount of clearance between the glass and the edges of the case.

For installing, here are my observations:

- watch a few install videos, including the one on Whitestone's site. Installation is not hard, but there are many steps and it would help to be familiar with them (and the time needed for some steps) so that you can just move to the next step and avoid getting dust on the screen, etc.

- make absolutely sure that the table is level. Not level-ish, but as level as possible. The LOCA needs to slide down the middle of the screen, and then when you drop the screen on the LOCA the LOCA needs to spread out evenly. This won't happen properly if the table is not level.

- use a reliable power source for the UV light. I plugged mine into a USB power supply that had plenty of amps, but after 20 seconds the light would shut off. I guess the UV light did not draw enough current or something, cutting off the power source. This caused me to have to re-cure a portion of my screen and it was no big deal in the end as it seemed to work fine.

Great protector. I'm a bit OCD about protectors and had all but given up on a good TGSP since I got my Galaxy S7 ages ago. This one is legit. Install is not hard but takes some thought and prep beforehand.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
Yes lol, only when there's light on it directly. My friend got one for his note 8 awhile back, I'll go see if his is different. I still contacted them about a warranty replacement.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] chriskwarren:
If you can see the dots then I believe that you in fact installed the screen protector on the wrong side and placed the smudge-resistant side face-down. Explains why it feels rough for you.

The protector has those dots that disappear completely when the LOCA fills them. I cannot see those dots at all under any light scenarios (I just sat under a bright light and I can't see them). The dots would be visible if installed upside down.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
Nope, I rewatched all the Whitestone videos for the 2xl and I 1,000,000,000,000% know I did it correctly. The dots are just easy to see

After watching this is tech today's video I just think it's meh for extremely oily people. Even his Whitestone had a lot of fingerprints on it and he said he likes the oleophobic coating and that it's good. Oh you can see the circle on his at the 4:20 mark
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] LLStarks:
I'm almost positive I've installed mine upside down at this point.

Fingernail scratches appear to be permanent.

Does the warranty cover this?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
By upside down you mean the side that your fingers is supposed to touch is on the screen? But isn't this protector slightly curved for the edges or am I wrong? Cause I would think you would notice the edges of the protector to curve away from the screen if it is.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] ilal2ielli:
The protector is flat or nearly flat. The LOCA used covers the gap between the curve of the screen and the glass. If you look at the phone with the Whitestone installed, you can see the layer of LOCA.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
That was going to be my next guess if it wasn't curved.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] stumpy352:
Does the edge of the glass feel sharp, or can you feel the 2.5D rounded edge? If it feels smooth, it's up the right way. Only way you'd scratch it with a fingernail is if you're scratching the anti shatter film, which should be on the bottom.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] vil-2:
I've just received mine. Totally disappointed by the flatness, not what I was expecting. I guess I should have come read this thread before :rolleyes:

I'll ask for a refund and try the InvisShield. Or maybe stay protection-less and get an insurance.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
I ended up returning it and repurchashing it. I'll get my new one on the 6th
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] LLStarks:
I don't feel sharpness, but your explanation seems to confirm my fears. Hopefully I can get a warranty replacement.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] ginfest:
I bought this and the Invisishield. The IS fits alot better IMHO. The inly thing better about the Whitestone id that the install is marginally easier. But after installing one loca-based protector you quickly figure out how to do it even with out the plastic cradle.

My only complaint was cleaning the speakers up. WS includes tape to cover them, IS didn't!

All in all I like the fit of the IS better.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] jonstrong:
Still waiting for my InvisShield to arrive...sent out via SingPost 3 weeks ago before they switched over to DHL...hopefully arriving soon. Re: speakers: Wouldn't a small strip of scotch tape be sufficient to cover the speaker and keep the LOCA out? Or, as somebody else suggested here, maybe a small amount of Blu-Tack putty in the speaker opening -- removed after the first pass with the UV light (not sure how clean you could keep the edges though with the putty).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] ginfest:
Yes I should have covered them!

The thing about these loca based, after its spread its so easy to ruin before its cured. Trying to wipe up the excess you can move the glass very easily. And that seems to cause bubbles which are a pita to get out. I found it very easy to get a bad install but maybe thats just me.

Trying to clean the speakers was near impossible before curing. And very tedious to clean them after!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] stumpy352:
For the speakers, I just dabbed the majority out with the corner of a tissue while wet. Didn't touch the glass. Then after curing, I carefully scratched out any remaining loca with a needle & blew it out with compressed air. But blue tac would have been the go.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] drewlim:
Problem is that it has to be exactly the same size of the speaker cut out maybe you can get away 1 or 2mm over. The length of the tg on both sides of the speaker is almost exactly where the speaker holes starts as well as the tg speaker side cut outs. If they give a little more clearance then it would be easier to put something on the speaker to protect it from spillage.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] fullmetal509:
[MENTION=8805597]Whitestonedome[/MENTION]

You guys sell the screen protector separately? Without the kit????:D:confused:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] evanwier:
"about as much"

The SGFresh InvisSheild protects more and is curved like your Samsung Note 8 version.

I am actually replacing my whitestone - which was great, but flat and doesn't cover the curves/edges at all with an Invisshield. Going to even use the Whitestone installation jig with the SGFRESH for easy installation
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] Bogega:
Whitestone installation jig is not compatible with InvisShield glass. Had the same idea, then both arrived and I realized it will not be possible. One of the parts (the upper one if I remember correctly) of WS jig has four small limiters that are designed for the size of WS glass. Of course you can try to remove them but out of the box it won't work.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] evanwier:
Darn! I was hoping it would fit the same, oh well guess I will be manually doing SGFRESH.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] LLStarks:
There's no cross-shipping for warranty replacements? That makes no sense.

I'd have to buy a temp protector and over a week for the defective one to be received by Whitestone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
Not to mention it's 15.00 shipping plus w/e you spend to ship it out to them
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] LLStarks:
I might as well buy the replacement kit when it's back in stock. How much is that?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
40.00
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] LLStarks:
[MENTION=8805597]Whitestonedome[/MENTION] Would you be able to help me out here? We can take this to PM if needed.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] zetsumeikuro:
Yeah, not really sure why they expect you to mail the protection in first it is pretty unreasonable. Can put a card on file and if the defective product isn't received after x days then it gets charged the cost of the replacement. $15 is also really steep for shipping costs, Zagg is $10 and they waive it when you ask them to for the slowest method.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] I7210I:
as far as i saw, i don't understand what does the UV thing does, at all the reviews that i saw, the loca stick does the all trick, so we can buy actualy regular screen protector and just to add loca/adhesive to it, isn't it?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] zetsumeikuro:
Except other screen protectors already have adhesive on there so not sure how well that would work. The loca specific ones don't have any adhesive until you manually apply it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] I7210I:
what about the one with the black borders?

and also, the uv does something?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
I think they want you to mail it in first because they state on their site if it breaks remove the protector immediately because it's no longer protecting the screen and can damage the screen.

Those usually have adhesive on them but is easily removed with a few layers of acetone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] I7210I:
yes, because they are ''so'' good (with the black borders) but actually all the screen protectors can be without adsehive with little water i think.

but beside these we can get to the same result with regular glass protector and the loca stick, cause i didn't saw anything special in the glasses, they are still flat, probebly no machine that can produce curve protectors right.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
You can but finding a curved glass with no dot matrix or adhesive isn't cheap (sgfreshidea I has glass but it's like 12 a price with high shipping)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] I7210I:
the sgfreshidea glass is curved ?or flat like the dome whitestone?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] speed817:
prone to scratches

I've purchased two of these now and both have ended up with a huge scratch within a week. While I feel the adhesive is great, the glass itself is just as bad as the other screen protectors I've tried. Never had scratch issues with my tempered glass for the Nexus 6p or Pixel XL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] zetsumeikuro:
I can understand if it's shattered or cracked then I get it and mailing it in first isn't a big deal. But say for dust around the borders or under the screen, or a botched install at least it can still offer protection. So I feel they should have the option to have a hold placed and the replacement mailed out first.

Yes, the UV cures the loca.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] I7210I:
Yes, the UV cures the loca.

but not the glass, the glass can't be curved

---------- Post added at 06:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:09 PM ----------

Yes, the UV cures the loca.

but not the glass, the glass can't be curved
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] tysj:
Really have no idea what's going on with yours. I was in Hawaii for a week where I just threw my phone into a sandy backpack most of the time and didn't get a single scratch.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] I7210I:
so here is many locas

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_od...C0.H0.Xloca+1000.TRS0&_nkw=loca+1000&_sacat=0
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
So either no one who says they have greasy fingers really and truly have greasy fingers or I'm just getting bad batches. This one is worse with the oleophobic coating, but the glass on this one was cut a little better than the first one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] evanwier:
Why are you using "cured" and "curved" as the same word?

The SGFRESH Glass is CURVED.

The LOCA is the adhesive, the adhesive needs to be CURED.

These are different words.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] Budwise:
Warning: I did the install in a steamy bathroom and I think the steam caused there to be some sort of sparkle effect to the protector. The protector was not wet in any way but the room was steamy to remove dust particles. It is unusable as it is now and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. There a clear area where the LOCA dropped onto the phone glass but everywhere else where it spread it left this terrible effect. I tried curing a little longer than prescribed but nothing is helping it. I peeled it off and it's going back for a refund.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] ilal2ielli:
Sounds like you had condensation under the glass which contaminated the LOCA.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] I7210I:
at the pictyres that was post here i saw that the glass is flat, are you sure that before applying it its curved?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] tysj:
The shape of the glass does not change after application. The UV light only cures the adhesive (or the same as letting normal glue dry is that's easier for you to understand). Whitestone's glass is flat. SGFresh's glass is curved. The adhesives are more or less the same.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] I7210I:
so basicly, any loca with SGFresh's glass(cause it's curved-the only one till now) will make same results
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] jonstrong:
There are different grades of LOCA, and they have different levels of viscosity. Be careful to get the right one. LOCA 1000 will be extremely hard once cured, and potentially impossible to remove without damaging your phone if you ever needed to replace the protector or remove it for some reason. LOCA 2500 is the grade that SGFresh provides with InvisShield, and probably the same grade (2500) is provided with Whitestone Dome Glass as well. 2500 cures to a consistency similar to silicone, while 1000 cures to a much harder material.

A couple of videos on the topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_MI-7_tfbA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4AJqfOM-dc
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] I7210I:
so, screen protector (flat or curved-depends on availability)+ loca 2500 will do the same work?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5ML-UV-Glu...hash=item25e23f78bf:m:me_MpMSItyKRx9tEMIAv9SQ

and

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_od...RS0&_nkw=pixel+2+xl+screen+protector&_sacat=0

by the way after i saw the video you added there, i'm afraid even from the loca 3000 :), it's at the end of the day glue, till now we used tempered glass based let's say on stickers, not glue, here it's actual glue, strong more or strong less but glue, can hurt the device in somehow, isn't it?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] stumpy352:
SGfresh doesn't use 2500 loca. 2500 is much too viscous. It is more the viscosity of 1000, but a different formulation that cures softer.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] jonstrong:
Interesting... I'd like to know more - it seems that viscosity isn't the only attribute to be concerned with. We could find different LOCA 1000 (or 2500) products that have the same viscosity when liquid, but different hardness and strengths once cured.

This seems to suggest that 2500 would be fine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_MI-7_tfbA

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-8/accessories/diy-loca-tgsp-thread-t3684619/page2

This suggests that none (or most) of what's available on the open market is not ideal for this purpose (screen protectors):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weOWdx80SrQ

Looks like your assessment of approx 1000 viscosity is probably right - but the SGFresh formulation is, indeed, softer when cured than most of what's in the market. A good reason to be cautious when buying unknown products with insufficient info! :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] stumpy352:
There is another video of using 2500 vs 1000. It takes an hour and a half for the 2500 to spread.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] jonstrong:
Makes me wonder how uniformly accurate the viscosity ratings are across the LOCA market.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] bradputt:
actually i wondered if we mix LOCA 2500 with distilled water will be less viscous.so that it flows better.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] stumpy352:
I tried mixing with water. It turns cloudy. Not a good idea. There's no water in Loca. The formula needs to be able to cure under UV light. There is no opportunity for water to evaporate.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] I7210I:
so no other option instead buying these exact formula?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] plokm:
If you really want to know contact the glue manufacturer
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] stumpy352:
The glue is cheap from SGfresh. And it's the exact amount you need for the install.

Edit: Sorry, looks like you can't buy separately.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
https://www.sgfreshidea.com/invisshield-true-fit-loca-uv-adhesive.html
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] stumpy352:
Wow, I couldn't find that. Well done.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] browniegirl:
It's in the general section lol they moved it
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Did we put it in the wrong section? By the way the viscosity is a standard measurement though not exactly accurate but it gives a good idea of how fast the liquid is glowing. Whitestone should be using a rating of about 10 to 20. (can't confirm on this)

We are using about 70 to 75.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] I7210I:
it's not a bit afraid to put glue on the screen?!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] rohit25:
Would have loved to buy it... But the damn thing ain't available in India... Or even Amazon US doesn't want to ship it to India... Stuck with finding replacements from AliExpress.. which aren't half the money
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] LLStarks:
Apparently Whitestone doesn't respond to Amazon inquiries. This isn't how it's supposed to work.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] kellybrf:
FYI, for those on the fence there is a coupon for 10% off at Amazon right now. prime shipping, though not listed in stock until 2/15

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B078...pixel+2+xl&dpPl=1&dpID=516TK2LNPtL&ref=plSrch
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] droidrev71:
That link isn't what you're describing. Has it changed?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] BR7fan:
I just purchased this, it will be here on Friday. I'm anxious to try it out.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] BR7fan:
I just got it today, I'm going to install it later when I get some time.

Edit:

Installation was very easy and I'll continue to order this product. It looks amazing !
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] dontbeweakvato:
I noticed on Modern strike online World War Heroes I'm getting major ghost touches primarily when moving both left and right stick making it impossible to play. It is a pretty cool first person shooter for Android very fast paced and you have a lot of other players. But it's only in that one or two games it's fine pretty much every other time.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] blyndfyre:
Finished product picture? Which case are you using?

Mine should be delivered tomorrow.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] BR7fan:
I'm using Spigen Tough Armor. I do not have another tablet or phone to post a picture, sorry.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] blyndfyre:
Can you tell me with your case and the Whitestone screen protector, when you place the phone face down, is there a gap so the screen protector isn't touching?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] BR7fan:
There is a gap, the screen does not touch the surface
[Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories] cdig:
installed mine mostly fine, although i a had a bit of excess fluid that is all gunky that i'm struggling to remove.

Anybody has any success? Tried a credit card, a cleaning cloth, nothing worked too well.