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[General Topics] bryanbelt:
Seven Is Awesome, But. . .

As I had mentioned earlier, I think SEVEN is quite the fantastic program. My hesitation, however, is rooted in the fact that SEVEN is beta. . .not a reflection on the program's quality, but on its longevity as a "free" solution. In addition, it does have some issues which I haven't been able to get past. First, it's not a true IMAP solution. . .it's an advanced POP polling setup that runs through SEVEN's servers in order to achieve the push effect. . .you WILL get pretty darn fast notification of new email. You will NOT have emails that you delete on your phone deleted on the gmail server. You will also only have access on your phone to things that come into the "inbox". . .meaning that if you wish to move an item in your phone's inbox to another folder, it will not provide the reciprocal movement on the gmail side. The whole point with using gmail in tandem with my WM6 was the fact that it was now IMAP. . .changes made on my phone side were reflected on the gmail side. . .something that is negated when SEVEN is put into the mix.

Just something for you to consider. . . .
[General Topics] hjlow:
im pretty sure it deletes emails in my gmail inbox that I delete on the phone only..
[General Topics] pcharouz:
I updated the first post with links and separated free/pay, I am using seven right now, and I like it so far.

if anybody has anything to add, or knows of any other solutions pleas speak up! :) I want to create a poll when I have more of them..

also, could someone please give me a link to windows live?

Edit:

sweet, check it out, this post made it to the first place on google... :)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...Z&q=best+free+push+email+solution&btnG=Search
[General Topics] tzuyang:
I tried mobipush it seems good concept but doesnt seem to be too reliable.

using seven but it slows down the pda abit and opening of the pocket outlook. but its quite reliable and fast. am using it via wifi
[General Topics] pcharouz:
so far, i like SEVEN the best, but sometimes i have trouble downloading attachements, anybody have the same problem?
[General Topics] acwyau:
I've tried them all and was going to stay with my mail2web solution (with gmail fowarded), but I was getting tired of not having my conversations threaded and having to go into my Gmail account on my pc to mark all the emails that I had already read or deleted. Seven was okay, but seemed to slow my Vogue to a standstill when selecting my email icon. Mobipush wasn't going to work, since it would not keep my contacts, appointments and tasks updated along with my gmail. I tried PushEffect as a last resort and so far it is working very well. I have my gmail set up with imap enabled on my phone and get messages just a few seconds slower than with the mail2web exchange server. The few seconds delay is worth it, as being able to keep my emails synced between my phone and desktop, while keeping my conversations threaded is exactly what I was looking for.

A bonus is that none of it is dependent on a server application like Seven or Mobipush.
[General Topics] leaskovski:
This could be a great thread.

I still think it is a shame that the POutlook team didn't really implement more feature to IMAP in it (IDLE and folder mappings).
[General Topics] nahguam:
May as well as mail2web to the pay solution. $4.50pm allows you to change your reply-to and remove the "sent by" bit to emails. I've used the service since Nov 06 and it's always worked seamlessly.
[General Topics] dearls:
Ok what i am wondering is if anyone uses the verizon wirelesssync push mail? secondly what are the advantages to using push really? if battery is being eatin up with push software running whats the diff in just using reg email to check at intervals on phone? I have 4 email accounts setup and set 3 of them to check every hour and the other once a day. plus i use imap for the email which seems to be a big problem with these other programs

let me know what all think....

Don
[General Topics] cuboosh:
mail2web for sure.. they maybe have 6hrs of downtime per month max.
[General Topics] Bushrod:
Wow, this is amazing. Thanks for the tip. I added my domain and changed my MX to point to Hotmail. I love it!
[General Topics] pcharouz:
I added a poll, so lets get voting!!!
[General Topics] bryanbelt:
No problem. . .seriously, email is the app I pay most attention to and the Hotmail/Windows Live for Windows Mobile solution has just been a "steady Eddie" for me since I went to it. I pretty much use the Windows Live exclusively now. The only thing missing is the ability to sync my calendar with Live Calendar Beta. I worked around that by using my existing calendar with Google Calendar and GMobileSync. Here's how I do this:

1. I add an entry in my phone.

2. Sync it up with a pre-established Google Calendar using GMobileSync, OggSync or GooSync.

3. Go to the calendar in Google Calendar and download it as an ical file (.ics).

4. Go to Calendar Live Beta and import the .ics file.

5. Voila! It always matches!

I understand that this solution is not ideal, but it works. I would have stayed with the Google Apps solution if only I was able to get a decent push-mail setup working, but they all seemed to bog my Treo 750 down, eat up memory, crash the phone or just plain wouldn't work. Hopefully Microsoft will integrate IMAP Idle into the next upgrade to WM6 and then none of this will be relevant or necessary. . .
[General Topics] Sendaris:
The SEVEN app is really lightweight when running in the background, and can support multiple webmail/imap accounts as push email. I've been using it since it's early beta and haven't found anything near as good.
[General Topics] friguy33:
Mobipush is great b/c there is nothing installed on your phone but it doesnt save any sent mail...couldnt get some of the others (seven) to work with yahoo! unless i pay to upgrade to yahoo plus (umm...no). Hotmail was great, fast push email, but i dont want to change all my accounts over to hotmail (now use yahoo and aol). Id like to change everything to gmail, but whats the point, might as well just check for email every 30minutes.
[General Topics] Genjinaro:
I have a free Yahoo account & Seven works perfectly with it.:confused:
[General Topics] rickyboy:
email

I uses mail2web.com and they have never given me any problems. You cant beat a free 2003 microsft exchange server.I think you all need to give it a try!!
[General Topics] StarMonkee:
I've been trying to find a decent push solution for months now - here's my current verdict:

mail2web - pretty good, i'd prefer not to have the signature added to emails, and I'd like to use my own address.

z-push - this seems to work really well, plus you host it yourself. The downside is it doesn't like large mailboxes. My mailbox isn't huge (~7500 messages) but the 5 second polling by zpush takes longer than 5 seconds so it stalls. For small mailboxes this seems perfect.

emoze - doesn't work with the device in standby.

flexmail 2008 - works really well with imap idle, but doesn't integrate with pocket outlook, htc home, or s2u2.

emansio - no html support and seemed to randomly stop syncing and crash.

mobipush - I tested it out last week and it seems to work flawlessly. The only concern I have is security. It shows all your emails on the web interface, so until someone eases my paranoia, I'm not really comfortable using it for my work account.
[General Topics] pcharouz:
how do u set up z-push?
[General Topics] StarMonkee:
You'll need to use it on your own webserver. Basically you just unzip the files somewhere on your drive, then set an alias for z-push. For apache, it's something like:

Alias /Microsoft-Server-ActiveSync /path/to/z-push

You'll then need to edit the config.php file to point to your mail server. My settings are:

$BACKEND_PROVIDER = "BackendIMAP";

define('IMAP_SERVER', '10.1.0.20');

define('IMAP_PORT', 143);

Then restart apache, and set up an activesync server on your phone.
[General Topics] leaskovski:
Im trying to setup zpush for use with gmail imap at the moment and it looks like it might be brilliant!

Modaco say something about installing "php-imap" as well.
[General Topics] dragonuk.test:
I have just started mobipush, it is quite simple and straight forward to install. I am always focus on how free services offer minimal security. Can you explain what you mean by it shows all emails on the web interface?

You can login to the mobipush website, it list all email accounts that you have setup to push to mobile device. You also have an option to wipe all remote data, I assume this mean emails on your phone.

Alex
[General Topics] atomkinder:
Hey guys, this is probably a shockingly dull question but I feel I need to ask none the less.

With WM6 using mobiPush will my phone have to be connected via GPRS (no 3G & no EDGE) all of the time or will it, if the connection isn't present, connect automatically to receive email?

See, told you it was dull.
[General Topics] PsyOpWarlord:
You have to have data connected (GPRS or EDGE or 3G etc) all the time for push to work.
[General Topics] atomkinder:
I thought as much, just checking.

Thanks.
[General Topics] Zenoran:
is there somewhat of an official z-push thread on here anywhere? I'm trying to get this setup and having problems connecting to google mail..

anyone get this to work?

my log spitting out:

04/02/08 18:31:02 Start

04/02/08 18:32:02 /var/www/z-push/backend/imap.php:41 imap_open() [<a href='function.imap-open'>function.imap-open</a>]: Couldn't open stream {imap.gmail.com:993/imap/notls/norsh} (2)

04/02/08 18:32:02 IMAP can't connect: Connection failed to gmail-imap.l.google.com,993: Connection timed out

04/02/08 12:32:02 Unknown:0 Unknown: Connection failed to gmail-imap.l.google.com,993: Connection timed out (errflg=2) (8)
[General Topics] StarMonkee:
I've had it working before.

From the error, it looks like it can't connect to gmail, but you've got the host/port set right.

I'd try setting the following config variable:

define('IMAP_OPTIONS', '/notls/norsh/ssl');

If that doesn't work, try connecting from the host you're running z-push on by running:

# telnet imap.gmail.com 993

If that can't connect, then you may have a firewall rule or your ISP may be blocking the connection

I hope that helps.
[General Topics] Zenoran:
Well that seemed to work. Thank you. "PUSH" isn't working though.. it will login and sync up but then disconnects, even with schedule set to as item arrives and having push enabled... I used to have regular exchange server setup so I know how this is supposed to work but z-push doesn't seem to be crackin it.

Also, I noticed once you delete an item or view it.. you have to do a manual sync to get it to handle any of the deletions/read items/etc... that sound right? :)
[General Topics] Zenoran:
This whole "PUSH" business really bugs me about Windows Mobile... EVERYONE who has a PDA wants push and OTA sync of their contacts but the only way to do this under personal resources is to setup server and exchange? come on.

Why isn't there a plugin for outlook to allow OTA sync/push and/or a microsoft releasing a PERSONAL exchange solution for everyone? BLEH!
[General Topics] LordDeath:
A question about the Windows Live Hotmail Solution:

Can I setup it just like with ActiveSync/DirectPush to have only the mails of the last 7 days on my device?

Or do I have to delete old mails manually?
[General Topics] StarMonkee:
Regarding the old mails, I found that the device stayed synced and then every few minutes it would send all updates (read flags, moved/deleted mails etc..) to the server - so these aren't pushed, but they are updated.

I did have problems with my phone staying connected, when you check debug.txt there should be pings from the phone every 5-10 seconds. The way I got around this was using the latest build from SVN, but that was before 1.0 came out so I assume the problem I had would be fixed in that. Sorry I can't be more help - I know it does work but I'm not sure about syncing issues.

I do know that it chokes a bit when the mailbox is large. On my work account (~8000 emails, obviously I only wanted the last few days) it took longer to do the diff on the mail than it did for the device to send a new ping so it ended up lagging more and more. Basically I think this was because my work email server isn't that powerful. When this happened, the phone would say 'last connected: xx:xx'. While this was going on, the phone would reconnect to the server every 6 minutes then lose the connection pretty quickly.
[General Topics] paty:
I started to use MobiPush because it can show my email address and allow multi-email addresses. However, it found that it doesn't support Asian lanugage. Hope they will work on it.

I used mail2web before MobiPush. It is quite good. However, it cannot show my personal email address and doesn't have multi email accounts. Any body know the mail2web pay service can do both personal email and multi email accounts? How much should I pay?

thanks
[General Topics] evilc:
ExchangeMyMail - $9.99 a month - not cheap, BUT.

POSTINI FILTERED PROPER EXCHANGE MAILBOXES WITH PUSH FOR YOUR MOBILE !!

I have had the same evilc@evilc.com email address for over 10 years now, so I get a lot of spam. (Just my first name backwards, I aint really evil - well OK, just a little.. )

Most of the spam filtering solutions I found didn't work that great, and I really didn't want to change email address - apart from the fact that you don't wanna give up a 5 letter pronouncable .com, it's handy as it can easily be remembered and no need for a pen when giving someone your email address whilst at the boozer, as long as they can remember your name...

I use postini at work, and really rate it as a minimum hassle, effective spam solution - but they don't sell a single user license. So I looked around for companies that sold email hosting with postini to single users, and found only one - push mail for your phone just happened to be a free extra.

So I got T-mobile web'n'walk flat rate data (The £7.50 a month one not the pro, but I do use my phone daily as a tethered modem and no complaints yet... ) and checked it out.

I am in love.

My outlook at home (ie tasks, contacts, appointments, the lot) synchs wirelessly with my phone, just like a blackberry (In fact, I administer the blackberries at work and I much prefer the exchange solution on my Kaiser to be honest) and I don't have to worry about backing up or synching my phone as it all happens wirelessly.

So not cheap, but worth every penny in my book.
[General Topics] Zenoran:
Other: SBS VM = Free Exchange

Can't live without Exchange now that I tasted it... Microsoft Small Business Server is very easy to install and configure in a Virtual Machine (vmware server) to get Exchange setup... NONE of these other options provide the easy-of-use and integration that exchange has... and I refuse to pay a monthly fee for email sitting on someone else's server!

nice to have yer own exchange.. I get nervous with other companies having my mail and contacts information on their server.
[General Topics] marcellos:
Since when is MS SBS / Exchange free ?
[General Topics] LordDeath:
Since there is something called MSDNAA :rolleyes:

But even if I have Exchange 2007 and Windows Server 2008:

Where should I find a machine which works 24/7 for this?
[General Topics] Zenoran:
Exactly :)

I just use my home PC... if you have some form of cable modem it just means leaving your comp on which I do anyways. *shrug*
[General Topics] wyldelee:
Long time lurker and newbie to winmo. I have been carrying a crackberry for many years and for the most part have been very happy about the switch to a Verizon Touch... other than reliable functional push email being one if the things I have not figured out yet.

I have kind of the reverse problem from most people. I travel around a lot during the day and need to delete emails off the Touch that I will deal with at the office later but I cannot seem to figure out how to dlete from the Touch and have email left on my desktop computer till I delete it later and vice versa i.e. there is a bilateral effect to deleting emails.

Even more alarming, without deleting at all, when i wake up in the a.m. my emails on the Touch from the day before are gone! I have 2 email accounts, work(pop3), and home (yahoo).

I also cannot figure out how to have my work email go into pocket outlook? Instead I have 3 accts.on the Touch : yahoo, work, and outlook. It appears that pocket outlook is getting populated with email only when I active sync and this is redundant.

Verizon tech support couldn't figure any of this out but said I need to use wireless sync and it will solve all problems. I thought I would ask here first since I am not familiar with Wireless sync.

Any ideas or suggestions?
[General Topics] Aeneas:
a good exchange server, even from mail2web could solve your problems. people on here offer it for $5/month, gmail can forward messages in realtime to your exchange account.
[General Topics] unL33T:
Anyone have any that work through HTTP-only other than MobiPush and Mail2Web?

Free Mail2Web won't let me change my "from" address but I don't get enough email to justify another $5/month.

MobiPush doesn't seem to be syncing properly for me.

I want HTTP-only because I don't get cell signal in my school but have wifi access. Unfortunately everything is blocked by the firewall but Exchange and other HTTP-tunnelled applications work. All the IMAP solutions don't work for this reason and I haven't had any of the programs that run in the background work either. Emoze has a "http-tunnel" option but even with that turned on it does not connect on my school wifi connection for some reason.
[General Topics] pcharouz:
did u try seven?
[General Topics] unL33T:
Yes, it also does not work behind the firewall.

I find it to be an annoying program because there is no way to shut down the program that I can find.
[General Topics] stevesrjr:
wow... i finally got my set up working.. after trying mobipush, emoze, mail2web... im using flexmail 4 opened a gmail account so i can use imap idle.. my battery doesnt drain i get messages litterally 2 secs after they are sent.. i have my other email forwarded to my gmail and with flexmail you have so many folder and sync options.. anyone who wants a working solution try this.. oh an now i can use my outlook on my desktop and flexmail on my phone and it just works :)
[General Topics] asbestos:
I get about 100 emails a day. I needed something that works and for me, emoze works great.

My company uses an exchange server and for some reason we can not get activesync working right but through emoze it works great.

It sync's my calendar, my contacts and my emails flawlessly!
[General Topics] leaskovski:
Shame you cant change your vote! Im currently using mobipush and it seems to working nice, albeit a little slow sometimes.

However, it does exactly the job i want for free! :D
[General Topics] gaabrysz:
Does it support HTML ??
[General Topics] pcharouz:
sort of... it formats the html to display on your WM screen in plaintext... which IMHO is even better...
[General Topics] leaskovski:
To the guys that have been playing with z-push....

Did you try it in a Virtual Machine?

I have been trying to get it up and running on Debian and on an Ubuntu machine to no avail. It you have been using a VM, could you possible upload the image (that is if it is all you have running on it?)

Or maybe a step by step guide on how you got it working? I have got it installed, but I havent been able to get it to send emails properly. I think i havent set sendmail up properly to send via gmail!?
[General Topics] R3PUBL1K:
Well, I have always used 4smatphone.net

This is not a free service but its very good - you even get a copy of Outlook to use as well as OWA. You even get a 15 day free trial :D
[General Topics] schizo:
Just thinking of adding one more free pushmail. It's free for me, as an i-Mate user (you need to register your S/N in clubimate website first :D)

http://mail.clubimate.com

Quite fast. But somehow the capacity is very small, and it seems that the trash bin is counted on you quota, and it didn't cleared itself when full.

Meaning, you have to periodically check and clean the trash bin or you'll always get the "exceeded quota" warning. Quite buggy in that means then.
[General Topics] krilb:
hello

Hi all,

very happy to be part of the communauter XDA,:)

For my part I mail2web excellent free push mail that suits me:)

Good day all;)
[General Topics] rleejr79:
anyone using DCD's new 3.2.5 ROM and Seven?

With this version I am unable to add GMAIL, the referral is there, just will not connect to add it to my accounts during set-up.

Any ideas? Had no problem regarding this issue with previous ROM's

*****Update*******

The problem is on Seven's end. Their beta app has acquired more than they believed and are having server issues. It was just coincidental that I changed to this ROM the exact time that the issue occurred. No issue with the ROM.
[General Topics] PLESTIUC:
MOBIPUSH

Mobipush is absolutely the best Free Exchange Service around !

main diferences from mail2web FREE:

1. when you send an email from your device through the outlook email set up with mobipush you actual email address (yourname@gmail for ex) apears in the receivers email box compared to yourname@mail2web.com when you use outlook set up through mail2web Free

2. when you read, delete (or any other action you take) an email on your device it will mark it read, delete it (or any other action you take) in your actual mailbox -

I guess both these things happen because mail2web is diferent in set up. You have to forward your emails from your gmail account for example so the synchronization does not happen in gmail it happens in your mail2web email address, so when you send an email it sends it from the mail2web account and also your emails synchronize in the mail2web account not in gmail, so your gmail emails stay unread or undeleted (hope I make sense)

These are the main 2 reasons I think MobiPush rocks. It's still free but then again it's still in beta so we'll see what happens.

Does anyone know of another service that is free and has these 2 features?
[General Topics] PLESTIUC:
try MobiPush. You'll love it !
[General Topics] cjarchow:
New Kid on the Block Funambol

Hi All,

I've been very interested in this topic and have researched several different solutions. I am currently using mobiPush as I like architecture the best. No client required on my phone, and it just natively works with activeSync. However I am finding the service a little unreliable. Sometimes emails come in seconds, but at times it takes up to an hour.

I have come across another solution that wasn't mentioned on this forum topic so I thought I would bring it to your attention. It is a free open source product called Funambol (http://www.funambol.com). You have to install a client on your phone, but it is very lightweight and easy to configure.

The advantage with this over mobiPush is that it also allows you to synch your contacts and calendar with them so that you have a backup. And they provide you with a neat portal (http://my.funambol.com) that you can actually add/modify/delete contacts and calendars entries and it will be updated on your phone. This is handy if you decide to switch to iPhone, or something other than windows mobile, as they have developed several clients and have an impressive compatibility list.

Currently I am using both services. If it proves to be more reliable than mobiPush then I think I'll make the switch and cancel my mobiPush.

The biggest downside (for me) about both these services is that they don't support HTML email. I know mobiPush doesn't, I am not 100% sure about Funambol, it isn't working for me but it might be configuration thing.