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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] AddictedToGlass:
All too often I witness someone shoving an expensive unprotected phone in their tight ass-pocket, as if it so tough it could never flex, and it makes me cringe.

IT FLEXES! And there's dust particles made of granite and concrete floating about everywhere, including that tight ass-pocket! LOL!

If you treat a phone like it's an expendable piece of crap, that's exactly what it will look like in no time, no matter how much you paid for it. If you treat this phone like you spent a thousand bucks on it, it should look like a thousand dollar phone in a year, IMO, and the cheapest glass screen protector should last months. If it doesn't last, it's because you "oops"ed your phone. If you keep "oops"ing it, you're gonna break it, simple as that.

Now in an effort to actually add something of VALUE to my post, I'll say this;

During the curing process of my installation of the Whitestone, I inadvertantly pulled out a tiny bit of the partially cured glue from the edge while wiping it down for the second time with the alcohol wipe. That created a tiny edge-bubble. I was able to dab a bit of glue onto it from the empty tube using a toothpick, and it sucked right into the tiny void. I quickly reapplied the UV light to cure it.

There MIGHT be the chance at the first sign of lifting that you could do something similar with the second tube of glue that is provided with the kit. For those that need to do it more often, simply regard it as a sort of touch-up maintenance now and again.

I'm not going to argue about whether that should even be necessary given the cost of the protection, as that's a moot point to me. I think we can all agree that in the end, results are the point.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] borijess:
Has anyone tried this? It looks like the Whitestone dome at a 1/4 of the price.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...209.html?spm=a271v.8028081.0.0.62a54290B9mHUN
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] StevePritchard:
They are so similar/identical, you have to wonder if they have come from the same factory.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] bober10113:
wow my experiance is almost the same. Ive had 2x screens lift exactly like OP describes. wonder if i should get these instead. for the same price with shipping in canada, i can get 10 of those.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Almighty1:
You have to order a minimum of 10 at a time. How much is the shipping?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] sefrcoko:
You usually get what you pay for. Chinese knockoffs can look the same but they use low quality materials (hence the price). Always a catch in my experience.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Slightly off-topic, apologies... Does anybody know what the Whitestone UK returns address for RMAs is? I've damaged mine, and have gone through the warranty process, but the UK address was only displayed during the process, and I didn't take note. The confirmation email only includes the US address.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Almighty1:
Hard to say until one actually tried it. There is the Invisshield sold by one of the forum members, Gorillath used by Magic Howard on here. These glasses are cheap to make and Whitestone just had the head start on it and while Whitestone is a Korea company, the Dome is still made in China and while there may be knockoffs or even competitors, there could be improvements made and the price is not that cheap since you are buying in quantity as they will not sell you just 1, you have to buy 10 as a minimum and then even on aliexpress, the minimum is a 100 so it's only cheaper because of the quantity as buying one usually has the costs of shipping involved as both Invisshield and Gorillath is not cheap after you add in the shipping.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] itoYo:
guys im the process of buying these, will report back on how they compare to the whitestone dome ones.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] :
Not sure there are many of us around here who would treat our Note devices like they're expendable. Even those of us who prefer to go naked with our displays. I certainly do. I like to feel the glass and interact with my display the way it was designed to perform, not under yet another layer of glass. But that's just me. I do not treat my devices poorly. Accidents can happen but that's life.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Y0sHii:
Already Broken product

You can't honestly think it's appropriate to send your customers damaged products that have spilled glue entirely throughout the frame the phone goes in to the point I can't put the phone inside and the wipes were glued inside. I could've stopped there but I'll continue.*

Not only was the frame badly glued but literally every alcohol pad was already opened and the pads dried out. Wait, there's more.*

The phone protector itself is ALREADY BROKEN. INSIDE THE PACKAGING! ARE YOU SERIOUS?

I've even provided photos to show you the damage. This is pathetic and you should have higher standards for your paying customers. I will definitely be sending this back for a full refund. What about this is acceptable?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Where did you order it from?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Y0sHii:
Amazon
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Limeybastard:
That's probably Amazon's fault. They probably didn't check it and sent it back out.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Agreed, that's what I was thinking too. Things happen.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Y0sHii:
Regardless of who's at fault I'm already in the return process so it'll be solved soon. Never had this issue with the first one i ordered..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Considering how you blasted Whitestone I think the question of who is at fault was valid ;). Glad you're getting it sorted out though, always annoying to have that type of thing happen.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Y0sHii:
Seeing that the screen protector is broken but is packaged with the frame around it with no damage makes me suspect that it was packaged from Whitestone like that (given the reviews on their website, wouldn't be surprising) because if it was damaged by Amazon wouldn't the entire frame and screen protector be damaged? Not to mention the frame was glued from the inside as well, doesn't really matter tho.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] AlexanderBlaQ:
I have had 1 witestone since Jan it does have a minor crack from being dropped but it's fairly unnoticeable other than that I have had 0. Issues with my white Stine no lifting edges (unless I try to used OtterBox case)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Which Otterbox case? My Commuter fits well, so I'm guessing you mean the Defender?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] AlexanderBlaQ:
Yes the defender sorry...

Don't even try it had my apigen case on with the Whitestone for a while so issues tried putting the defender case on and almost instantly I had air bubbles on the bottom left-hand Corner and right-hand corners.... took it off I haven't tried to put it back on since
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] LBTaylor1984:
Had this fitted on a brand new phone, lasted 3 months, and the top corner went bad suddenly spiderweb like marks.

Over night the two side edges started to lift as well, bearing in mind it was on my desk thats pretty special. Contacted Whitestone got this standard response.

Never got back to me, and have ignored me since.

Well supposedly it's my case, yet i can tell you from trying to move the case to touch said protector it was impossible. Then I asked them the same question again, but without a case. Guess what not having a case is a cause for it lifting. There only other reason is curing time, at 3 months how long is it meant to cure?

Company is a bloody joke, selling a great piece of glass, if a little thick, using sub par Loca glue. At £40 a pop Whitestone can do one, I worked out that most phones are kept for a 24 month contract, if every 3 months I have to change the protector thats £320 over the lifetime of the phone. If I get insurance at £9 a month it's £216 for the life time of the phone, which covers all and any defect. So it's cheaper to insure it than protect it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] StevePritchard:
My second install has done this after two weeks. The first install worked fine for 4 or 5 months since installation last year.

The lifting for me was actually on the Bixby button side of the phone, but in the same general location as the OP, but a bit longer, and it appeared out of nowhere. My case definitely doesn't apply pressure to the glass (it's a Ringke Slim).

However, I do have a bit of a theory as to the cause...

When I installed this Whitestone I allowed the LOCA to travel too far down the phone before releasing the glass. When the glue flowed, I actually ended up with a small area with a few bubbles showing, exactly where the OP had his problem. I managed to work the bubbles out, and I thought I had a good install.

I'm wondering whether the thickness of the glue in those edge areas about two thirds of the way up from the bottom of the phone is less than the other areas, and this is the cause of the lifting problem. As most of the glue was in the lower half of the phone when I dropped the glass onto it, rather than the glue spreading out evenly from the centre, I noticed that it spread out to the sides, then up the edges, meanwhile also spreading up and out - these two flows ended up meeting in the Bixby/Power button area, and on one side for me, actually met at the very edge, leaving an island of no glue by the button forming a bubble that I managed to work out.

If this pattern of flow also happened on the Bixby button side, but instead of a bubble it just left a very thin layer of glue, then it could explain why that area is susceptible to the lifting problem.

I know we shouldn't be having these sorts of problems, but there doesn't seem to be a better option for protecting the screen of the Note 8 with a full-adhesive screen protector.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Nastrahl:
I always considered screen protectors are for preventing scratch damage and not shock ones.

Here you need a protector if you want to insure your phone...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] fridaycider:
Does the replacement whitestone glass come with more adhesive ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Yes, there are two tubes of adhesive supplied with each glass.

Interestingly, my warranty replacement was the v2 jig which includes masking tape for the speaker, and also the absorbent pads that fit at the side to take up any excess adhesive.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] ruffnexx_uk:
Interesting, i've had my protector on for almost 5 months now, few light scratches...no lifts whatsoever, my theory is that you probably whist cleaning excess glue created a little air pocket as the glue eventually contracts, hence the 24 hour drying rule, following this to the T as well as working on a level table is critical as the glue has to disperse evenly ( i used a spirit level tool) and my install was 100% perfect 1st time with no lifts or airpockets.

I do have cases...pitaka and a range of samsung cases which i alternate
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] ruffnexx_uk:
Well...that'll teach me to be so smug......7 days later i woke up to find my whitestone dome screen cracked......hahaha
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] edit:
I applied the glass and everything looked great (did everything by the book) BUT after a week on the top corners I got some bubbles that seem to multiply as the time goes by... what happened? How can i prevent that from happening again?

I only used 2 Samsung cases, the alcantara one and the led flip case.

Another issue that I had was that even if I put the pads to the left and right of the phone where the buttons are the glue still found it's way into the buttons... took me quite a while to clean those.... How I can prevent that from happening again? Will my buttons have issues as the glue will harden over time? Any hints how to clean that? Mild alcohol should do the trick?

These things should not happen for how much the kit costs and how expensive the phone is.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] mikeyjrd:
Getting some lifting as well on the top & bottom left corner after installing it for 1 month. Its shaped like a 1/4 of a snowflake.

Using the Unicorn Full Armor Beetle with the built-in protector removed. Good 1st case and i didn't switch cases since good 1st whitestone installation.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] gsser:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B074W2MC7L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_MJvHk1F4MDCHd

i use this case and it fits perfectly fine. dropped my phone 3-4times still no scratch
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] R-iel:
Tmax glass is a dome clone but more case friendly. I use it and can confirm. It's also cheaper!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] ruffnexx_uk:
I've had a terrible experience with whitestone, despite paying for a replacement glass for a heirthero pretty good product ..to say the least I am dissapointed in them... absolute radio silence...but theyve taken my money, i think ill just have to raise a PayPal dispute.

I dont think its a good way to treat customers.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] nickbarbs:
Just use a plastic wet application screen protector and move on!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] kenpaci:
You using this case with whitestone dome glass?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] gsser:
no
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Owenboy89:
This has prob been said already but cases can push your screen off....I have gone out and bought ultra slim cases the lot and some do and some don't....

but I have a answer if it's the case causing the agro.....there is a company called pitaka and they make aramid fibre cases....not only do they protect your phone really well but they are they are the worlds slimmest case....On flat screen phones super slim cases doesn't make a difference but on edge phones it is an absolute god send. My wife has one and it doesn't even come near the screen but very very strong at the same time......only prob is they are about £40 but if you putting whitestone on then I can tell you don't mind spending to protect your phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] babak:
The pitaka for the shape that has only protects behind the phone and not even the sides, I have it but I do not use it anymore, phone twice minor falls and twice broken whitstone.

guys, if you want good protection stay away from pitaka, it's very thin and it's beautiful, but it does not protect the glass film.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] DeeXii:
Did you ever figure out a solution to this? I have the same problem. There has to be a solution as I have seen these installed on others phones with minimal issues. Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] CBMC:
I have had luck taking a little bit of the loca on a thin piece of cardboard touching it to the spot on the edge. The adhesive should fill that spot. Then cure with light.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] bligui:
I'm on my 4th one lasted 3 months, and the bottom corner went bad suddenly spiderweb like marks and the top corner totally lifted. At first looks great but now my phone looks like crap again find it hard to justy another one at the price they are it's gonna cost more than the phone at some point of buying so many
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] DAvid_B:
Stop complaining when you guys take your cases off and on. Put the protector on, put your compatible case on, and stop goofing with it. You wont have a problem. If it lifts, you have a bad case, or you keep taking your case off and on..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] shagy38:
I have had mine on for 7 months and I have not had a issuewith it lifting Imo best screen protector for the note 8
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] NIKKOTUASON:
Just ordered one for myself, after reading this thread I'm kind of worried. To the people that are not having any problem, what case(s) are you using?

Thaanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Otterbox Commuter for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Limeybastard:
That's the one that doesn't have a hard inner shell right?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Yes, two pieces (soft rubber inside, hard outer shell).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Schroeder09:
My wife's note 8 had the OtterBox defender and one of those wet install screen protectoes. I have a whitestone dome on my pixel 2 xl and I love it.

We just had a scare when she dropped her phone and it landed screen first onto a corner of s metal object. Luckily nothing happened but I decided it was time to look into the screen protector and s compatible case as I knew the defender doesn't work with the WSD.

I seem to remember initial impressions of the WSD for the N8 being positive. Now it looks like that's changed as time has gone on and the WSD has shown that it doesn't withstand the test of time and sversge use on the N8.

Are there any full adhesive options that are FLAT for the N8? That's what they did for the pixel 2. Everyone whined and complained, but the protector looks good, feels better, and most of all; does its job. If such a protector was and and used with the defender the phone could be completely protected aside from the round edge display on the side. Yes, this would be annoying feeling the edge of the protector when you interacted with the edge functions on the N8, but at least the $800 phone would be safe. In my particular case my wife doesn't use her edge functions at all, so it'd be no love lost for her anyway.

I think this is the best solution seeing how protecting the edges without lifting seems impossible. Are there any location products out there like this?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] sefrcoko:
It may not be a good idea to use the WSD with the Defender, but it's not exactly true that the WSD doesn't stand the test of time across the board... The type of case plays a role, at least to some extent, as does application of the glass, etc. Yes it has lifted for some, but it has not happened to everyone either. See pic in my post above yours, for example. You may still prefer a flat design of course, and the WSD or others could still go wrong without a case, but just wanted to clarify based on my experience, fwiw :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Schroeder09:
Yes, I saw your pic and it's fantastic that it's working for you. I love it on my pixel and had planned on getting her a new case because I know the WSD doesn't work with the defender. Again, the drop was what spurred me to pull the trigger on the purchases. That's when I found all the negative reviews.

I appreciate your input, but now with all this being said the question still stands: is there a loca style TGSP like the WSD that only covers the flat portion of the display?

EDIT: do you have any more pics and/or any pics that are more clear that show the space around the edge of the WSD and the OtterBox defender? I'm a big believer in OtterBox stuff. The cars have saved my phones from a lot of damage. I suppose you could chaulk it up to luck, but I attribute successful protection of the phones I've had to the OtterBox defenders. If I can't have the defender I'd like to have the next best thing. I'm interested to see how much area is left around your WSD and edge of the commuter to see how much room is left to allow for the flex of the case to NOT contact the WSD.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] sefrcoko:
I've only tried a few other protectors, but that was early on and they weren't full adhesive. They were pretty bad. I did however take a lot of pics of the Whitestone and Commuter for another thread, which might help: https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=75673038

I don't want to completely defend the WSD either...I'm very happy it's working out here but I know people have had mixed reviews too. I haven't tried any flat protectors, but someone else may be able to recommend one.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Schroeder09:
Yes, I understand your point that it's worked well for you. I am just seeing too much negativity about it to feel comfortable taking the risk. Then seeing that their customer service isn't being helpful kinda puts the icing on the cake to make me decide to pass on the WSD.

Are there no full adhesive, flat TGSP for these note 8's? Anyone?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] NIKKOTUASON:
I too was having doubts about spending $60 on a screen protector. I recieved mine last night and it was my first time installing anything like this but it went perfectly. I had a small bubble but I managed to squeeze it out. The thing that annoys me is the adhesive is oozing out from all sides...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Schroeder09:
Why is everyone having trouble with getting loca all over the place with this piece? I have the pixel 2 xl. I put the WSD on it. There were a couple little absorbent loners that were to be put the sides of the screen in the installation jig. The loca was supposed to be absorbed there. Doesn't this kit have those pieces?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] sefrcoko:
My first WSD didn't have those extra bits, but my second one did. Still leaked more than I would have liked.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Same here.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Note8Canada:
Hey Whitestone Dome. Can you please email me back? I've tried contacting you multiple times with no response. Getting pretty irritated that I'm being ignored.

thanks, Don
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] iceepyon:
If you are using your device in a environment that is extremely hot and humid, then this can occur. Or if you are using your device with the GearVR headset for a prolong period of time this can happen also. Once you let your device cool down for a bit your can get rid of the bubble pretty easily. As this has happened a couple of times on my Note 8, when I use it to watch 360 videos for a extended period of time.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] winol:
Mistake, delete this
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] babak:
Everyone talks about how it sticks but nobody says how fragile it is for falls, I broke two after a small fall and now I'm looking for a valid substitute, but apparently, it does not exist.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] NIKKOTUASON:
I got lucky I guess, mine fell off the bathroom sink table onto the bathroom tile face down and only received a minor hairline scratch. I was sure it would be cracked.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] babak:
what is clear, even in your case is extreme fragility of this glass for falls, we look elsewhere.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] sefrcoko:
That's not clear at all lol, only anecdotal. Tempered glass isn't indestructible. Better that it break than the screen when it hits something hard like tile, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] akslow:
there is one. I already use it on my screen:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2pc...747.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.7e3d4c4dZXY1oU

You can get 3pcs for 15usd and its great deal comparing to domeglass
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] babak:
it seems very interesting but 60 days shipping time? do not you have a link on amazon italy?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] galaxynote2:
I bought the Whitestone Dome and the installation went perfect. 2 days later I found a small crack at one side with two hairlines going -thankfully- to the bottom of the screen. I said thankfully because it means that the hairlines will not spread all over the screen and they're barely noticeable right now. A replacement set is about $30. I found not one but two screen protectos in a bundle for about 13 bucks with oleophobic coating already instaled and two bottles of UV glue. I've checked the photo reviews and I've seen that the cutouts are exactly the same as the WSD glass, so I'm almost sure that it's made in the same factory. it also means that I can use the same tray from the WSD kit. I ordered it and it should arrive in two weeks. I'll tell you guys how it ended then. As of right now, I'm sure to say that Whitestone is ripping off our pockets. Check AliExpress guys, there're a lot of good deals with good, unbiased reviews.