yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] johnnyman25:
I get this also on small ota too!I download now the one u mentioned 148(156372)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] amigoloco:
if the windows hisuite app refuses to connect to the phone, after the first update, shut it down completely and open it again, then it should connect.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] johnnyman25:
Perfect im on 148 version now!!!!Thank you very much my friend!!!

Very good instractions!!!
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DANDANA:
BLA-L29C432 on 142 here, i can download but on restart i get an invalid package on installation screen on the phone. Have tried with 145 and 146/148 both FullOta and OTA.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] amigoloco:
This message only occurs if the update is not approved for your imei yet.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DANDANA:
For all i get approved in FF
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] amigoloco:
Maybe you should try factory reset, before doing the procedure, I did the update two times succesfully.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] trojjacker:
[MENTION=317806]DANDANA[/MENTION] Try factory reset then upgrade to 145 from 2018.06.11 OTA, 585MB, #144250, after that upgrade to 148 (#156372) from July 25th, 550MB.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] madphone:
I also get: "Software install failed! Failed to check the update package. Please download the package again."

I tried to upgrade from 145 to 148, which was approved.

Edit: now with the other 550mb package it seems to work.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Tiago A:
Rocking 149 not certified yet
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] erichkooi:
Anyone receiving patch01?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] timo.helfer:
150 is on FF
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] paxydermos:
Hello guys, just a question i am a bit confused, i have unlocked the bootloader and i have root with magisk etc everything works well , i am on the night shot update now. 8.0.0.145(c432)

if there is a new update , like OTA or in any way, the procedure is still the same? and i imagine i will lose the root access and then i have to re-flsah it?

Thanks
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] trojjacker:
[MENTION=9114748]paxydermos[/MENTION] Wouldn't recommend it. I haven't tested the procedure with root so try at your own risk.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] DANDANA:
OK, so it seems like not all the versions are created equally. I have managed to update from 142 to 145 with 144303 from FF and from 145 to 148 with 156256. Somehow, even if all the versions are showing as compatible, not all can be used to upgrade. Thanks to [MENTION=8144174]trojjacker[/MENTION] for info.

And i had to install the hisuite apk manually. Also i had problems connecting the PC to phone, the solution was to go to security-more-revoke HiSuite HDB authorisation and deselect allow HiSuite to use HDB; reselect allow after will connect to phone.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] santiago-gnr:
Thank you!!! It works... Now I have B148! :good: :good:
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] neox25:
Update

hello how to understand me by your proposed method update ismeta BLA-l29C 146 (432)?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jchallett:
Thanks very much for this, I thought I'd never get 148 but this worked like a dream.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] paxydermos:
So whats the solution for example if emui 8.1 is realease , cant i flash the stock firmware ?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
Its funny i knew about this for a long time and tried many times but I always only tried FullOTA. i feel stupid now lol
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] troublecro:
First my phone is recognized as some obsolete Samsung in HiSuite second HiSuite says there's no internet connection lol
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
I don't know about the Samsung issue but are you on a LAN wired connection? I had to use my laptop with WiFi and it worked. My desktop PC did not, said no internet connection.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] troublecro:
It's pc and it's connected via wire phone is in wifi....same network
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Thasscas44:
Yes, received patch01 today, OTA on C636.

Change log popped up and said it was urgent and fixed screen display errors when gaming.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] st169:
hi,

i couldn't find my phone on the list.

i have BLA-L09 8.0.0.145(c432)

[IMG="here"]https://s1.eksiup.com/f9826d96911.jpg[/IMG]

idk how to make this image smaller. sorry. :(
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] victoriacori:
I tried to update myself but I can not show windows 10.

I uninstalled hisuite from the PC and the phone, restarted both, installed hisuite 5 on the PC and connected the phone. He does not see the phone and if I try to install the apk directly from the phone, although the option for unknown sources is activated, he opens it to me, shows me what he will access but then tells me "app not installed". At the moment I have version 141 of the firmware. Tips?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Maxama123:
Yes received this Urgent bug fix. It's good to see they can issue out quick fixes. Go Huawei.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] felipy2k:
Thats what im talking about... Im on 146 (c432) rebranded from c605. 150 is up and no OTA till now. I really dont get It .. ..im afraid to be out from updates from now on ! Maybe is IMEI related?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Grumpy Cat:
What the hell is this garbage?

I keep waiting for updates to improve EMUI Desktop, the camera and other bugs that have been overlooked for years and I get this crap? I don't even play that game.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] avatar_ro:
totally agree with you.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] wooley4766:
Most people on this topic are not very patient.

Ota updates are rolling out monthly by imei.

I get usually get ota updates 1 month later.

If u want quicker updates u can try beta versions on ff or fh. But has risk of brick.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] androidni:
You must be the only one getting monthly updates!
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] troublecro:
Nope I'm getting them too. They might be delayed a bit compared to FF but they're coming.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] mscion:
Was just wondering. Does the GPU turbo improve overall graphics performace or is the improvement for a few specific apps that take advantage of this feature? Thanks.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Daryl18:
The July Patch (Model BLA-L29, Cust C605, Compilation .137) as come to my phone on July 15th -estimated-, but no signal of August (.139) w/GPU Turbo :(
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
It's a dedicated technology which the game specifically has to support... Right now there are 2 games PUBG and another one, forgot what it's called. It works pretty well for PUBG...rather than increasing fps it's ist much more stable. Also the new game suite allows for notification free gaming.

BTW: I am also getting monthly updates... for some reason people are always complaining about updates... Hell even in the Pixel 2 Forums they are complaining.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] mscion:
Thanks. I'm not much of a gamer, except for word games, lol. I guess Huawei believes gpu turbo will be widely adopted, otherwise not sure why the effort is put into it. I would be happy if it just improved launcher and various transitions.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
I think EMUI needs to be discontinued and a new Android skin or Android one is needed.

Well Huawei is the second biggest device manufacturer now, I think some top tier games will support this, if Huawei pays them money. I think it's just to smooth out their lesser powerful kirin SoC which is fine with me since gaming experience on the "flagships" mate 10 pro and p20 pro is very bad. It's nice to have this kinda support...if they bring Android pie before this year ends I am more than happy with their update policy
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] troublecro:
Personally don't care bout Emui skin as I use nova which runs flawlessly as launcher.

I jumped on 148 train too :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] myselector:
I just received the 148 update OTA.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jeremy08330:
Good news, if someone could check if Xloader01 or 02 would be great.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] abyss71:
yesterday i got : BLA-L29 8.0.0.148(C432)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sampei:
I've forced updated to BLA-L29C636 B143. Finally got GPU TURBO function.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] ciciu:
I just received BLA-L29 8.0.0.148(C432) via OTA
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jeremy08330:
148 ôta is xloader 02.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Meteordust:
Received OTA 8.0.0.148 today.

Hi,

Received OTA BLA-L29 8.0.0.148 (C432) today.

Netherlands, KPN network.

Did the small package this time, around 550 mb, all good :good:

Greetings
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] krGemini:
any c185 middle east variant received the turbo update on mate 10 ALP-L29 yet ??? FF showing two updates 136 and 137 but both don't approved.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] felipy2k:
Im on 146 updated from FH. I Just connect with Netherlands server tru my VPN service and no update found ! I really dont get Huawei update policies !
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] mrocca:
Hi All, does the IMSI have anything to do with the Ota upgrade schedule / distribution?

I've bought my phone in Italy, it is a C432, but I have a SIM from Argentina and I didn't get any OTA update after updating to 142 from FF.

Now, I'm in Italy and I'm still on 142 and no OTA available for me yet.

Thanks for your feedback.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] troublecro:
Huawei has nothing to do with your FH tampering.

148 rolling out via OTA in Croatia.

Once a month :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] felipy2k:
But about crap OTA policy they do ...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] troublecro:
I don't understand....what crappy policy in Europe? we get almost a monthly OTA over here. We're among elite.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sargos76:
Crappy huaw...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] troublecro:
Dunno bout that. We're in heaven here update wise. I don't tamper and pay FH...i get updates on time(almost :D)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] felipy2k:
Not everyone as Huawei send It by IMEI ....
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] JoshuaLintag:
I get monthly updates here.

I don't understand why everyone uses FH. You guys rebrand then force update through firmware finder and then complain why you don't have timely OTA at the end of the moth.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
Stop Wondering, they are haters... They would be angry with "crappy" Google/apple update policy if they had a pixel or iPhone and received an update 2 weeks later. After all Huawei is the second largest device manufacturer, one cannot expect they push an update to all devices globally at the same time... No servers could withstand that.

Some people get caught up in a bubble they lose track of reality. Huawei delivered almost monthly updates, almost all of them did not just bring security updates but also new features from recent phones. This is very good support compared to others and that's a fact.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] spring80:
i have the same question, still waiting for 136 or 137
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] troublecro:
Exactly,I'll fu*k my phone with FH,then install god knows what VPN to scheme my way to Netherlands,then blaim Huawei that I don't get OTA :laugh:
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Archibald1963:
Why people screaming about updates, if the phone is working without bugs, it is great...

In any case the phone is not going to deliver 100 dollar bills even afte android 9, 10... Update.

I am on 142 and mostly happy with everything...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Meteordust:
Simply using a VPN is not working I believe.., don't understand why people pay for their updates with FH unless they not getting an update at all, and indeed like mentioned who knows what happens with your phone regarding to the official OTO updates when you force updates with FH...?

Think & maybe I'm the lucky one to have this phone for 4-5 months now and already had 4 updates with new features.

Receiving each time in the third or fourth week of the month the new security updates.

Actually didn't found one bug yet, paid 200 Euro less comparing if I would have bought a similar phone like a Samsung, for me this phone (BLA-L29/C432) rocks with his hardware and camera.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sebastiii:
There is bug on my side :

Rotation not working in home (start after v137)

Stereo sound inverted on video recording.

Quality of recording in video like they apply a filter sharp or something more visible on human face.

But for the rest it's a nice phone. I have try to explain those bugs at the hitline and they tell me that they escalade to higher support but unti' those days nothing come back at me. They tell me that they will phone me or emailing me but nope.

Tapatalk
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] smaberg:
Only want to say, -Sweden is crappy about updates, here we are about 6 months behind everyone else, so yes I force updates, as the first fw had allot of bugs in it and it's draining battery!
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
Do you have c432? If yes are you seriously saying that swedes are on February android security patch?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] smaberg:
My wife has not forced update and it's on 137 firmw.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] troublecro:
That's something wrong. Is device bought as c432? Free device or provider? I got like 6 updates in 6 months since I bought it and it came with 128 I think.

132,137,142,145 and 148
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] impala65:
Got the update right now in germany.

I'm very happy with the updates so far, they s re comming constantly and even bringing new features. :good:
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mostar088:
Got 148 today in Sweden, not long ago 145.

No problems in Sweden at all.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mikaelwikner:
I live in Sweden. I get updates every once and a while.

C432

.145

Skickat från min BLA-L29 via Tapatalk
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] naufalalyakbar:
Can't connect to 4G+

ALP-L29 build 138 (c363)

Does anyone has CA (4G+) isue? Mine can't connect to 4G+ and only 4G the whole time and btw I already enabled CA and Highspeed in setting.

Factory reset, Nothing happened.

I put my card in other phone, 4G+ works just fine.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] JoshuaLintag:
Try resetting the network settings
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] naufalalyakbar:
Already done it, and still stuck on 4G :(
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] gerwinbrouwer:
Downloading BLA-L29 8.0.0.148 (C432)-Full right now here in the Netherlands on the Mate 10 Pro with HiSuite.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] bknez:
No 148 in Switzerland
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] madphone:
Android 8.1 is now approved for BLA-AL00C786.

I guess in 2 months the international version should have it too.what do you think?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
They also said Android Pie is starting in September for P20... Id rather see Pie in December than 8.1 in October. Hopefully we get both.

Anyway even if they are fast on Android Pie, I dont think they will release it before the Mate20 has been out a month.... they gotta promote the new software features to sell the phone... they wont release an update saying "hey guys, you can buy the old phone and have the same experience."
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] COJR3:
Hi friends, I've got BLA-L29 C185

Does anyone have 8.0.0.148 on same C185? soon or later we will get same update or not?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] PoLiThS:
Getting as we talking 150 right now.... Oops

Sent from my Mate 10 pro
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Aethergr:
Just received official FULL-OTA on BLA-L29 for .148 C432 in Denmark
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jeremy08330:
150 approved;)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] k4fari:
I have updated my mate 10 to 129 c185, new themes have been added named as aurora, almondflower, blossom battery life much much imroved in 129 and the anorher interesting thing i have noticed is improved image quailty of the camera. May be my assumptions about photo quailty but i hope other peoples will share their views on it.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] k4fari:
Here are the screenshots
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Repear88:
I already have the aurora, almondflower theme ... And I'm on 128 (c636) on mate 10 pro. So I suppose there is not too much difference.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Kornelije23:
I have BLA-L29 8.0.0.127(C423) But when I search for new updates it shows me no new updates. I live in Germany. Thank you
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Grigorijs:
The same for me (Norway). Still have been waiting for 129.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
Same in France
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] tristan202:
Living in Denmark. Have 129 from FunkyHuawei.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] greenbat:
What's new in 129?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] saeedbg:
Guys what about c185 build 128 battery life?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jalal.awed:
I've been using the update for over 24 hours, no problems with battery life so far. Still great

I have a question though, do you have any problems with the 5GHz wifi?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] saeedbg:
Better than 119 or not?

What about camera?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jalal.awed:
I guess it's the same, i had no complaint about 119 though.

Right now 70%, last charge 8 hours ago, with 2+ hours SOT , one of which is gaming..

As for the camera, i didn't use it today :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] supermarioarv:
Same in Greece.... Still waiting For new update

Στάλθηκε από το BLA-L29 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
In what way is the camera improved?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] k4fari:
On old firmwares when a photo was taken and zoomed it look like oil painting, but in 129 photo taken with camera, retain its details on zoom.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] thomaspHK:
Can you share any examples from before te update that show the "oil painting" issue well?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Repear88:
I would like to see it too :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Sounds interesting.

I'd like to see some samples if possible.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] el.eco:
Same in Greece:(

---------- Post added at 02:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:36 PM ----------

Did they solve the issue with scrollable widgets (they doesn't update)?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mario_Wiznycia:
I would also be interested in knowing this. One of my biggest complaints with the phone.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] robnik3:
Yes, got .150 15min ago.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] oula77:
Same here in Finland.

Any news regarding the P20 camera app and super slow motion video?

(sorry if this has been asked already)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] 0alfred0:
I am downloading 150 via firmware finder dns method right now.

the p20 features are coming with emui8.1 in september or october. its already approved for chinese model.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] troublecro:
150 are just security patches?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] amigoloco:
Yes. I got the security patch .150 via ota three hours ago, after manual check for update on the phone.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
Same here in France 148 official Ota
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] bknez:
148 recived ota in Switzerland [emoji2]
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] madphone:
Weird, why 150 isn't approved here? Which version is your device? Mine is C432
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] myselector:
150 has arrived for me OTA.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sipi1302:
148 firmware OTA update yesterday in Croatia on my Mate 10 pro
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] paxydermos:
Guys i have received the notification of updating to .148 OTA, i have unlocked the bootloader and i am root, do you know if i should update or no ?:D
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
If you update, you will have to install magisk again, that's all.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] piero60:
i have update to .148 italy
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] nicogri:
Same here c432 France official Ota today

Envoyé de mon BLA-L29 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] TheInfiniteAndroid:
Anyone know the difference between C782 and C432 I got my Mate 10 Pro from Carphone Warehouse UK (Unlocked) and put my EE SIM card in and I'm on .132 but other people who purchased in the UK seem to be on C432 with .148, what can I do?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] steelmaggot:
Mine also C782,bought from Carphone Warehouse unlocked
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] TheInfiniteAndroid:
Yeah in another thread a guy told me C782 is UK stocked in Carphone Warehouse & Curry's etc and C432 is EU stocked through carriers such as Vodafone, I'm thinking of rebranding to C432 as they're already on .148 and we're stuck on .132 :rolleyes:
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Hackedieter:
I received. 150 (c432) today morning in Germany

Gesendet von meinem BLA-L29 mit Tapatalk
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
What is the changelog please?!
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pretoriano80:
August 2018 security patch.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] royhanks3:
Hey everyone with Alp-L29. Aside from the build number change, can anyone tell us the differences between 139 sp-1 and 141 sp-1?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
Thanks a lot
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Rhadamanthis:
. 150 in italy c432 L-09

Inviato dal mio BLA-L09 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Hackedieter:
I think "SP1" is coming with 01 Xloader

Gesendet von meinem BLA-L29 mit Tapatalk
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sly68:
Hi guy, when do you received 148 ? IAM from Slovakia and I have C432 145.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] J-omg:
BT latency introduced in 148 (SOLVED)

Just got the update to 148, and now I had noticeable bt lag when watching videos.

Changing BT codec from AAC back to SBC solved it.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] MrTore:
Huawei Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29 8.0.0.148 (C432)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Hackedieter:
I've updated to 148 via FunkyHuawei

Gesendet von meinem BLA-L29 mit Tapatalk
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mostar088:
Screen on Time on Mate 10 Pro with 148 is awesome:good:
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] shreyashmalani:
Wow. That kind of looks impossible [emoji28]
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] royhanks3:
I understand that lol. But are there any software differences, changes in battery life? Anything else different aside from xloader and build number change?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
Bluetooth with 148 is awesome finally!!! ?