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[General Topics] Alan_SP:
We still don't know what is actual difference between C5 and C6 versions. I have theory (just my thinking on the subject) that everything is same except something related to digitizer, done to alleviate ghost touches. But, from reports here, it looks that C6 has some ghost touches.

Also, from my experience with firmwares (I received my unit with v1.24 and I didn't "rush" upgrades, but waited to see ghost touches and upgraded revision by revision), they all have ghost touches, but also they get better and better.

This means, it looks this is maybe hardware related in some degree (hence C6 in my thinking), but also software can help, either completely, or partially. Not sure if they will completely remove ghost touches problem, but if not, that would mean they could have problem with many users. So, we will see how it plays out.

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My device stays cool when I play Heroes of Loot 1, but heats up noticeably when I play Heroes of Loot 2 (same makes, a bit more complex game). All in all, I guess it just depends on complexity of the game and how it is optimized (HoL2 isn't that much more complicated that needs so much more processing power).
[General Topics] Lizzi555:
Just a ghost idea.

As I don't play with my T10, more editing documents, mails ..., watching videos and surfing - i did not see any ghost touches on both device.

Could it be due to the games and display resolution? Not all software is optimized to 2.5K display.

Also ran some touch screen apps here , no problem.

Hot mtktsap temp sensor: Think the high value is a misinterpreted sensor value . Divided by 3 it would fit.

My T10 becomes warm if stressed but not hot.

Battery significally looses power if less than 15%.

You can train this by charging i.e. up to 20% and than let go down until device shuts down.

Also a battery calibration app may help.

But is it really worth this if you already know what happens.

A lot of my chinese phones have this behavior sooner or later.
[General Topics] axelb2:
The thing is that it gets really hot on the top half ( when held in portrait) when playing for 15 - 20 minutes. I think it gets hot too fast (uncomfortable to touch the specific region). Even after 5 - 10 minutes it gets warm.

That may be, but still the short amount of time mine takes to get hot is troublesome..
[General Topics] YuriRM:
A thermal mod like those made by Chris G. from TechTablets may be the solution for you.

https://youtu.be/AOd-ZI9YbMU
[General Topics] jorbik:
Hello everyone, I received the Teclast T10 E3C5 this week, with firmware 1.31 for the time I have not encountered problems, and it seems to me that the price / quality ratio is excellent.

I would like to know if installing firmware 1.32 is better and in the case how to do it. Taking the zip from the first page from 1.31 to 1.32 I can update it via Teclast ota. Thank you.
[General Topics] LiquidP:
I have a T10 with the chinese FW and a another one with the global FW. The T10 with the global fw had never a ghost touch Problem. The T10 with the CH FW have a ghost touch on the upper right. It brings down the shortmenu. Now after 8 weeks, the problem is 90% gone. I think there is a problem with the digitizer and the laminating process.
[General Topics] axelb2:
Thanks for the tip but is a bit too risky for me.

Also from what i understand from the video, the rear of the tablet gets hotter after the mod and the cpu temps drop, because the heat is transferred better to the outer case.

My problem is that the rear (top part) of the tablet and the screen (top part again) get hot. The cpu according to cpu-z stays under 50 degrees which is fine. So it may be that heat is correctly dissipated to the outer casing, as it happens after the mod is applied in the video.

My biggest issue is with the hot screen though. For the rear i will have an external case. For the screen maybe i'll have to use somekind of stylus....
[General Topics] YuriRM:
Is anybody else noticing the same problem of excessive heat? If not then the tablet should be returned to the seller.
[General Topics] BiG_FooT:
I also ordered the Rock charger supporting MTK pump charging. As I'm awaiting for it's delivery i'd like to know if you are using the Rock charger as the daily charger? Does it charge without issues after using it for a week or more? I'm asking because of people reporting issues here: https://techtablets.com/forum/topic/teclast-t10-battery-issue-mtk-quick-charge/
[General Topics] italianquadcore:
I don't use use it everyday due to the fact that I've tested all my power chargers in last days. Anyway I've purchased it at Amazon Italia, I have a 2-years warranty, I am not worried about any failures. Eventually the problem may be after the warranty period, but I prefer to enjoy it.

Instead I am curious to know about the other Teclast power chargers described here ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmKBeVZAMQY ), this should be the only Teclast quick charger that works at 9v/12v - according to the answer "Today, using the Teclast fast charger I got it from 40% to 80% in one hour, I think that it's pretty fast.﻿". Only one hour is an excellent performance, even better than ROCK power charger. Teclast model is APS-KI018WE-G (I can find it only on Gearbest and Aliexpress).
[General Topics] BiG_FooT:
Hi, thanks for your quick response. But the case is that the Rock charger is doing fine, but after a while the Teclast T10 tablet is charging very slow! People are complaining that they cannot charge their tablet anymore (only very slow) even with other chargers. I'm afraid that the MTK pump charge technology maybe harmed the tablet.

As you didn't use the Rock charger long enough we have to see if it was the MTK pump technology that is causing issues.
[General Topics] Lizzi555:
If you search AliExpress for "Teclast charger" you will find quick charger for 7$ and normal charger 5V/2,5A for 6$. Both fit for T10.

My personal experience up to now:

- all 5V chargers work, even 5V/3A type C

- PE chargers from different smartphones will either work slow charging or T10 becomes hot. This differs in multiple tries.

In worst case device became unresponsive for a time.

Hope this helps
[General Topics] Dvalin21:
Ok guys, I had planned on buying this, but I found one that seems a lot better. Voyo I8 Max. Just do a search

Model	VOYO I8 Max

CPU	MTK Helio X20 (MTK6797) Deca Core

ARM-A72 @2.1-2.3GHz

ARM-A53 @1.4GHz

ARM-A53 [MENTION=4149147]1.8[/MENTION]5GHz

GPU	ARM Mali-T880 MP4

System	Android 7.1.1

RAM	4GB

Capacity	64GB

Screen	10.1 Inch IPS Capacitive Screen

Resolution	1920*1200,280PPI

Camera	Front is 3.0MP Rear is 12.0MP

Microphone	Built-in

Speaker	Built-in

WIFI	802.11b/g/n(support 2.4GHz and 5.0 GHz)

Bluetooth	4.0

GPS	Support

G-sensor	Support

4G	GSM:800/900/1800/1900MHz

WCDMA:B1 B2 B5 B8

FDD LTE:B1 B3 B7

TDD LTE:B38 B39 B40 B41

4G:TDD LTE,FDD LTE

3G:HSPA+,HSDPA 21M,HSUPA 5.76M,GPRS class12/EDGE

2G:GPRS class 12 /EDGE

OTG	Support

TF Card	Support (Maximum support 128G)

Audio	MP3,WMA,FLAC,WAV,OGG,AAC,ACC+,eAAC+,AMR(NB,WB),MIDI,AC-3

AAC-LC, AMR-NB, AMR-MB

Picture	JPG, JPEG, GIF, BMP, PNG,etc

Video	DivX,MPEG-2,H.264 ,MPEG-4 ,H.263, MPEG-2

Language	Multi-language

I/O Port	1 x Micro USB port

1 x 3.5mm Earphone port

1 x TF card slot(Max Support 128G)

2 x SIM Card slot

Battery	5000mAh

Weight	580g

Size	246*170*9 mm

Package

Included	1 x VOYO I8 Max Tablet PC

1 x USB Cable(length:1m)

1 x Charger

1 x Adapter (the adapter depends on the country of the buyer.)

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Cost is 229, I will be selling my Samsung SM-T800 as soon as possible!
[General Topics] willthrom:
all the mobiles, actually all the LIPO batteries takes more time to charge to 100%. The last 20-10% takes exponential time. This can be understand like thinking a battery like matrix with holes. At 0% charge there are a lot of empty holes and it is easy to find one to store "energy". When it is at 90%, most of the wholes are occupied.

If you have a USB Meter you can see how it is reduced in any mobile/tablet device

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Why do you think it is a lot better?

The GPU in the teclast is much better and the battery.

The CPU isvery similar....

The screen is smaller, Teclast is 2560 x 1600
[General Topics] Crazy_Oni:
correct. The t10 is one of the best tablets atm for this price.

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[General Topics] Dvalin21:
That Im aware of, no ghost touches, and Notebook Check PowerVR vs Mali and MT8176 V MT6797 Helio

Also, check out the Voyo i8 Plus which is currently released
[General Topics] oiac320:
Any news from the Chinese forums regarding an Android upgrade? I was hoping that we'd see Oreo.
[General Topics] Crazy_Oni:
I'm quite sure we won't get oreo. till now, none of them Android tablets got any version updates.

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[General Topics] fatferret:
My T10 wont pass the teclast logo screen I had also tried to boot to recovery but no luck, wonder if any of you can give me some insight how to solve it? Any feedback will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
[General Topics] The Pool Man:
So peeps -- I find that whenever I pick up the unit and move it ANYWHERE it turns off the screen. Like touching the glass at all on the front and the screen goes black. Yes, I can turn it back on but that's not the point. The point is if I want to pick up the tablet and show someone something it goes dark.

Is this your experience too? Do I have a setting messed up?
[General Topics] Lizzi555:
Do you use a flip cover which will turn of the screen when closed? The front cover has a magnetic function which can shut down the device even when you flip it to the back. Sometimes the magnetism is so strong that it triggers the hall sensor even from the back.
[General Topics] Lizzi555:
APS-KI018WE output specifications: 5V/7V/9V==2.0A, 12V==1.5A (ordered it from Ali Express)

This is same value my charger for Leagoo Shark1 claims to have but shark1 Adapter charges T10 very slow only (like 5V/1A).

According to the description, T10 supports 9V/2A fast charge.

I am wondering whether Teclast PE charger will work better.

The problem with PE from Mediatek is that there are many variants reaching from 5V/2A over 9V/2A to 12V/2A or 5V/3A/5A(TypeC) and not all are compatible.

Device logics has always to negotiate the best matching value with charger and if the manufacturer has not implemented complete code, there might be a problem.

As all PE chargers support 12V, in worst case they might grill the device which is supposed to charge at 9V only. With propper implementation they should agree highest common value.

As all quick charge methods will stress the battery, I am normally using Anker 5 Port smart charger over night. Only if I need more Power in a short time, I use PE.

However, using PE should not influence the lifecycle of 500 full charges without loosing more than 10% of battery capacity.

All devices can be charged even if they are completely shut down, so I do not think that Android kernel has primary to do with charging. There is a circuit in the battery and another one in the phone and in the charger. These 3 will negotiate correct values. To pretend overcharge, most devices will stop charging an ~80% when shut down.

As earlier mentioned, the USB-cable has a big infuence on charging speed. A cheap cable may lead to slow charging. Always spend a little bit more money to be on the safe side.
[General Topics] YuriRM:
Phoenix OS is Android 7.1 based. They claim to be developing an Android 8.1 version. However, it is unlikely that the TOS offered for trial at the Teclast forum will be upgraded to the new version.
[General Topics] Lizzi555:
I would be happy if we receive latest security updates in near future. I do not need Oreo if Nougat is implemented propperly.
[General Topics] Crazy_Oni:
yes like us all i think. but i don't think that we get any security updates. the latest we have is from April 2017.
[General Topics] The Pool Man:
YOU are a GUCKING FENIUS :good:

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As an Oreo user on OnePlus may I offer this: Oreo blows
[General Topics] willthrom:
Careful how you compare the GPU.

The voyo has the GPU: ARM Mali-T880 MP4

The comparison you are doing is with the MP16, which has 4 times more cluster than the one you compare.

Average Gaming PowerVR GX6250 → 100%

Average Gaming ARM Mali-T880 MP12 → 112%

Then the CPU:

Average Benchmarks Mediatek Helio X20 MT6797 → 100%

Average Benchmarks Mediatek MT8176 → 94%

6% is not something you can really compare here..... in my humble opinion
[General Topics] Lizzi555:
Helio X20 is a battery eater compared with MT8167 and Mali T880 MP4 can not reach the performance of GX6250.

I have Umidigi Z Pro with 5.5" screen and Helio X27.

Antutu 3D bench is viewable more fluent on T10.

Battery drain of Umi Z Pro is very fast if cpu and gpu are stressed.

And Voyo i8 max has 5000mAh only - would be a short game without charger connected.
[General Topics] willthrom:
I am convinced... it is the other guy happily adv the Voyo :)
[General Topics] Dvalin21:
With all that considered, the problem is it can't be guaranteed that the ghost touches will stop in this tablet.
[General Topics] vladimir95-spb:
What do a Teclast manager app? Is this is a manager of autorun?
[General Topics] Akropolon:
Hi all, first time posting here. I just got the Teclast Master T10 myself and have been (mostly) enjoying it so far. Today I ran into a whole lot of issues though. Maybe someone encountered the same problems?

In the beginning I couldn't use the OTA updater, so I ran the tablet on the very first version. Downloaded a huge amount of apps, games, everything. Worked like a dream. Installed Nova Launcher, no issues whatsoever.

Yesterday night I finally installed the OTA updates (a stable Wi-Fi was all I needed) and that's when the problems began. Moving from the app drawer to the home menu could only be achieved through the back button: the home button would prompt the "which launcher do you want to use" screen. No matter how many times I selected Nova Launcher and "Always", it would keep on happening. Frustrated, I decided to uninstall Nova.

Only 15 minutes later did I feel like I could/should give it a second chance. But would you look at that: I couldn't install Nova Launcher. Or Evie Launcher. Or any other launcher for that matter. Launchers were suddenly completely shut out thanks to the classic -501 error. Not only the Play Store wouldn't let me install these apps, but seperately downloaded APK's didn't work either.

So what did I do? I thought "If I factory reset this thing, it'll go back to the original state, before the updates". Naive, of course, but it happens. So yeah, I factory reset, but of course all the updates are still there. This is when a new problem reared its ugly head though: Google Play Services. No matter how often I erase the cache, no matter how often I erase the data, no matter which apps I disable, I keep on getting the -501 error when I try to update the app.

I've factory reset the tablet several times since then, but the same thing happens every time: I have to update Google Play Services for Gmail, for Chrome, for pretty much everything, but the tablet won't let me. I'm pretty much going insane over here. Anyone out there with the same issues?
[General Topics] abaithad:
Hi

Did you try installing gapps and see if it fixes your issue ?
[General Topics] Chinaphonearena:
The reason for the drop from 20-25% or so is simple - The kernel is not properly calibrated to voltage.

Download Battery Spy or similar and you will see that 3.50V is hit around 20%. A steady 3.5V should be when a tablet/phone shuts down to avoid damage to the cell. Once 3.50V is hit, if it doesn't shut down, a typical li-ion phone/tablet battery doesn't have enough push back and the power drops sharply from there...

Essentially 3.50V is 0%. Eg, turn off or charge your tablet at whatever % corresponds to 3.50V (can't remember the exact % ATM), or use some voltage notification widget etc..

Have used this tablet over the last few months and it's a great tablet other than this minor (for me) issue and the too bright minimum brightness.
[General Topics] Dvalin21:
So you haven't been experiencing ghost touches? I'm trying to figure out how big a chance I would get plagued with them if I purchased one. The only other tablet with these spec is the Asus Zenpad 3s 10
[General Topics] aclup3:
with that cpu, that screen size and that tiny battery you will be lucky to reach 4h of screen on time... and the heat created by the helio X lineup is just killing devices...

the t10 easily gets 7h SOT and I never seen it heat up

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And for those that have not read the tclast forums, here is an official post translated by Google

"There is much doubt as to what is the difference between E3C5 and E3C6

Here's to answer

E3C5 is Taipower has not yet decided to import pre-installed TOS project project ID; and E3C6 should have been in the TOS formally came out, the original pre-installed TOS ID models shipped. However, due to the hot sales of T10, and TOS delay again and again (to test the E3C5 upgrade and other issues), desperation to adjust some of the E3C6 capacity to native Android system shipments to meet market demand.

E3C6 relative E3C5, the first release of the software for C5 feedback more touch issues a comprehensive parameter adjustment and algorithm adjustment (closer to the TOS official version), it can be the first official version of TOS support (currently Already released).

In addition, E3C5's firmware (touch algorithms and configuration parameters) can be used universally for E3C6, but not vice versa, mainly because of the following:

We have seen several upgrades in the E3C5 ota (using the new algorithm) There is the difference phenomenon of non-touch or touch effect deterioration. In view of the difference of E3C5 after upgrading the software, we apply the new algorithm to E3C6 to ensure the same effect after E3C6 uses the new algorithm and distinguish the difference phenomenon of E3C5 , So when maintaining ota software can ensure that the user can receive a satisfactory result after a single upgrade.

PS: E3C5 or E3C6, upgrade in the follow-up, including the upgrade to the Android 8.0 end of the package, both ID products will be upgraded to the best version at the same time."
[General Topics] YuriRM:
Have you tried the Lux Lite app by Vito Cassisi? I found a recomendation for it on the LeEco Le Max 2 thread for solving the too bright minimum brightness.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitocassisi.luxlite
[General Topics] Lizzi555:
Sounds good to me. They are working on it.

Up to now I have only two minor issues.

1. no native contacts sync

2. Battery usage does not reset after full charge.

As this is with both T10, think it is no setting mistake.
[General Topics] Crazy_Oni:
so you will say that we get Android 8 with both versions? [emoji6]

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[General Topics] Chinaphonearena:
What's up [MENTION=3129964]Dvalin21[/MENTION] ? How have you been?

Right, no ghost touches at all for me.

Sound is really good, good display (though some shades of blue and red show a bit flourescent and MiraVision settings are screwy (contrast and such are useless)), mostly fluid OS (some minor animation hiccups, but nothing that slows you down), gaming is okay but some games are unplayable due to everything being green (Nova Legacy).

We get rid of almost every product we review, but this has been a keeper.
[General Topics] Alan_SP:
I too have this bug, but I use third party battery app, it resets just fine, so it is some firmware/OS bug. At least it is in v1.32. Maybe they solve it. Probably we should start writing about it on their facebook page.
[General Topics] Plumplum88:
What is your experience about Helio X serie? Reality or rumors spread...

My on Vernee Apollo Lite gives this results

CPU part on X20 has no special heating...succeded to stress all 10 cores at full speed during ten minutes with only a drop of 6% in performances...you can't ask that to Snap 652, 805...or even 820!...I still must try with mt8176

The problem is more on GPU part...performances drop reach 30% when GPU is stressed but many other soc are worst with same test : Snap 805 reach 50% performance drop on some devices.

As I use both X20 and mt8176, I can say that in game, there's more heating on mt8176 with 2560x1600 screen than on X20 with FullHD screen...it's obvious on some game like Boom Beach for exemple.

Gaming experience is better on X20 FullHD than mt8176 with 2560x1600 screen

Can't talk about X20/25 serie with QHD screen, as I never try some. T880mp4 should be a little better than powerVR6250 but both are very close

Nevertheless, I'm impressed by T10 battery life-time, on that point, I prefer T10 than Apollo Lite

And I must add that I try Voyo q101/i8 4g (mt6753 version)...cheap construction, buggy software, no OTA, cheating on Android version, 2 screens version without informations!

Teclast is well built (there's still some little mistakes), gives OTA, doesn't cheat on version, and separate versions with references E3C5 and E3C6.

There's some bugs. I was forced to do factory reset when upgrade to TOS 2.0, it doesn't support launcher (Phoenix OS based) and I have one on previous version.

For that reason, choice of T10 seems to be better than i8 Max but X20 (properly used), is not a problem!

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Hello,

I have the same problem...

It comes from TOS 2.0 which seems to be Phoenix OS

Phoenix OS doesn't support launcher...the reason comes from the ability to switch between tablet mode and desktop mode.

I was using Apex Launcher, upgrade lead to unstable system that force to reboot.

I was forced to factory reset like you.

I solved (mosly) the Google Play Services problem with downloading the apk from APKMirror, all works but notification still ask me to upgrade

Edit : I managed to make the notification disappear...install Aptoide store and then install Google Play Services from Aptoide
[General Topics] Crazy_Oni:
would anyone be so kind and explain me what TOS does mean?

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[General Topics] willthrom:
The teclast OS... which as far as I remember is a copy of http://www.phoenixos.com
[General Topics] avtobot:
Global firmware E3C5_G

Does anybody know where I can download the global version of firmware (E3C5_G)? Not update - I need the full package.

Thanks!
[General Topics] Plumplum88:
See the link on the first page officielle the topic!

The "needrom" one...
[General Topics] avtobot:
At the first page I can't find the link for full version of global firmare.

Global firmware have another numbers of versions - V1.03 for example.
[General Topics] albertyx:
hi sime3,

i have the same issue. TWRP posted here works only for the E3C5. Ther is no recovery for our C6 yet. even if i tried using the TWRP with the mese of thetouch screen, i have to wipe alla data to access internal storage. I use the "solution" using a code to unlock the t10 C6 but it not works. I think we have to wait for a correct recovery for E3c.6
[General Topics] willthrom:
Try this: https://mega.nz/#F!v4VykSoA!x8baVhr2WgrOVKb5cRGfdQ!H9FwzA5T

I haven't tried.