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[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Thank you for your feedback. There are various reasons for the delay, most of them cant be discussed here on the forum but to give you a wider prospective this year OnePlus was one of the OEM's selected by Google to Test Pie so the transition was easy and quick as comparison to earlier builds. OnePlus was one of the quickest to get Pie only after Essential and there are still a lot of bigger OEM's who are still sitting on Oreo.

When you buy a OnePlus Device the company policy usually says 2 Years of Software Support and an additional year for security updates and with increasing no of devices it becomes difficult to deliver everything at the same time for all devices. OnePlus is never the quickest in providing the updates but will eventually get there.

None the less, i agree with most of the pointers that you have mentioned and a company learns from their past experience. We have better plans for 6T and will do our best so that none of the supporters feel the same again with the later devices. Thank you once again for sharing your honest feedback and words of advise.

PS: If you are someone who wants to stay on the bleeding edge and 5T is not your primary device or you can afford half baked software, i can try to get you a spot in our contributors list if there is a space available and the team considers you a fit, just to make it up from my side. Feel free to hit me up over PM with your details if interested.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fir3blade:
No offense, but all this arguments sounds like excuses to me.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Chaplan:
With all due respect, and i have been following your posts and contribution for a long time:

1- If we are comparing i will leave Sony as an example, Xperia XZ2 was chosen for PIE developer program, Xperia XZ Premium, XZ1/XZ1 Compact (previous to XZ2 line) already have PIE, stable.

That's what i call quick.

2- Increasing number of devices and its difficulties are an OEM choice, not user choice, yet that kind of retracts your promise for the 6T not going the same path the 5T did as mentioned.

3- I will have to decline your proposal, being this device the one and only, my main device per se, just makes it impossible for me to get into the closed beta team and test whatever is published.

My feedback is honest as you said, it always is.

I'm not on a Purge here over OnePlus.

But truth be told, I was to decide between a Xperia XZ Premium and a OP5T when i upgraded from my OP3.

Money aside, and I could have gotten the XZ Premium for less the price i paid for the OP5T, strange but true, I bought the 5T based on the wonderful OP3 experience.

I felt I bet on the wrong horse to many times to consider OnePlus when i decide to retire this device, all because of software/firmware issues (Monet effect on camera is still there, late and half baked treble, not so timely android version upgrades, late security patch release on stable branch, no support for OnePlus camera on custom ROMs... the list goes on).

With that said.

Thank you for taking the time to address my post but damage control isn't kicking in to be honest.

PS: Not here for rant purposes, this post and the former were made with all the respect for XDA rules so I hope they stay when moderation kicks in.

Piece.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] jgcaap:
You guys can add the features quite quickly to a new rom which is mostly aosp as also cherry pick all the changes and problably do the rebase in 1-3 days. You got a team right? I find strange that people which compile roms as hobbies can release pie with a lot more features and release earlier then the official from the company. But that is me... :) what are your thoughts?

If you want to offer a phone is perfectly fine. I am up to it. :laugh:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] the Doctor:
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[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Cpt. Strawberry Crepe:
You are trying to defend them when there is nothing to defend. It's a million dollar company and they are doing this on purpose so they can sell more units of the 6T. There is no way they can't have a stable version of Pie when they had access to the code way before because of what you said about Google choosing OnePlus. Secondly they work closer with Qualcomm so kernel and blobs and stuff like that are already available to them. Thirdly, the 5T has the same CPU and GPU as the Pixel 2, which you will say it doesn't matter but oooh it does because everything needed for this SoC is out there. Fourthly, it's not so difficult to port the ROM from a 845 to a 835 when you have a stable base and it's been 3 months already. Better keep your sweet words to yourself, we don't care about that. We care about the 550€(+shipping) we paid and look at them throwing sh*t at us. Why would we go for the 6T as it will face the same fate as the 5T eventually after a year or maybe less?

Keep in mind I'm not saying anything directly to you, but I am stating my thoughts about the company itself quoting a post talking about the company.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cieffe54:
The beta 19 is unusable for the BT bug in the car. The bug has been fixed on the 5.1.7 stable but not on the beta .... No I ask PIE how they all ask but at least one bug fix!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Would be fixed in the coming beta :good:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cieffe54:
...coming... the 5.1.7 stable is more than a week gone out
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iXaidyiu:
I guess he is implying the fix is most likely to come soon with the fix and Pie altogether...
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] captainstarbucs:
Am I the only one here that doesn't care much about pie? If it doesn't have a call whitelist built in to block these MFing robocalls day and night, I don't mind staying on 8.1 it's a rock solid build.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] izzyserious:
I think you're the only one, yeah. But that's fine, to each their own.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
He's not. Count me too. I've tried a few Pie AOSP ROMs and honestly it's not worth the hype. I mean, I AM excited for OOS's version of Pie, but at this point I can fully admit that I'm hooked onto OOS. It's just so much better than AOSP and more functional. So the custom Pie ROMs here effectively killed that desire for the new shiny thing until OnePlus releases their version of the new shiny thing, and then we'll talk
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bdwilk:
Apparently you haven't tried all the shiny new things. But the main thing is OnePlus is holding back the custom ROMs from being perfect by withholding crucial sources that are needed from them. Whoever still believes they are the "consumers choice" and that they listen to the community is seriously delusional. This is my last OnePlus device for a long time.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
You're right, I haven't. I only tried Pixel Experience and CypherOS, and while they were nice, I just don't like the feel of AOSP anymore. It feels basic, boring, and even lacking compared to OOS. And I have no desire to try any of the other AOSP ROMs that are feature rich because I prefer the basic barebones experience. And if it is OnePlus's fault that all custom ROMs lack some type of functionality somewhere, that's completely fine with me. OOS changed the game for me, and I'm happy with it. So I'll stick with Oreo until Pie comes.

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It's also a general rule of thumb that if you don't purchase a Google device, you're not gonna get updated anytime soon. No matter how many times a company promises that things are gonna change, it's not gonna happen until it does change. Essential phone gets a pass because 1. Authentic stock Android and 2. It's Andy Rubin's company, so of course he had to be on top of that.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bdwilk:
You would be right but things have changed. I agree with [MENTION=774530]Chaplan[/MENTION] when he says that when Oreo came out the older devices got it before we did. Now the 6 has had pie for months and 6t is shipped with it but the update is nowhere to be seen for us.

Please don't believe this crap that they couldn't give it to us first.

Look at it this way.... who would buy a brand new, more expensive device (6 or 6t) if they could buy last year's cheaper device that already has the latest Android version?

That's the only reason they haven't given it to us. It's not to sell us on the 6/t it's to keep the new buyers from buying last year's device..... 5/t ...... at a cheaper price.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Chaplan:
Development focus was never on this device. Throwing sand in the users eyes is quite easy and that's that.

It's not a PIE issue alone and I shared many hiccups that OnePlus has swept under the carpet over this device lifetime on my previous post.

T series devices are great, development and support lacks high though because their development efforts have already shifted towards the next device.

All relevant Android publications are giving this leaked Closed Beta screenshots the stamp of a major Open beta China release.

What a LOL.

FAIL on them, XDA portal also hasn't come clean about it.

Or it might simply be a OnePlus PR move to mitigate the more informative view a few of us have shared.

Fact check:

Nothing major will come out before the holidays... if it does I'll gladly eat my hat.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mesmurized:
I did.... then returned it 2 days later. Nice phone, but love this 5T so much more.

Thought I could live with the tear-drop notch (better than 6) and USB headphones (no 3.5mm), but the missing notification LED and fingerprint was the last straw. I use those several times everyday for the really important stuff. I found the almost edge-to-edge touch screen a problem for my fat fingers (haha.

Plus but not a deal-breaker, was also hoping they'd finally make good use of SIM2 slot. OTG is good, but an always installed always ready extra flash can be very useful.

Naturally others use their phone differently and don't find the changes a nuisance.. but for me.... it was much more than a nuisance. As an engineer, the camera was good-enough 5-yrs ago, I don't care about super high resolution, or the fastest CPU....just make it easy useful, flexible, expandable, speedy, and durable.

Maybe 7t, 8, 8t will get me excited enough to relearn everything ... but I'm not holding my breath. Hopefully I don't have to go back to Google's expensive line-up
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] jd1001:
No disrespect intended in anyway but a survey on fonts? Surely this can't be real?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iXaidyiu:
Hope this survey will mark a good start for OnePlus concentration on the Font changer they have implemented in their OS but has close-to-never further developing it. And hopefully the result of this survey will be directly reflected in the upcoming Pie updates, too!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ALPHAWolf96:
A Google Sans font option would be nice to keep every app look in line with all the Gapps getting Material Design V2. Also then I won't have to use one extra magisk module!?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fir3blade:
"we are listening" and "never settle" seems to be some sarcastic slogans coming from OnePlus.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] cezarvrabie:
Next Open Beta changelog :

-updated font style

-updated oneplus switch

-updated gallery
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] denie kristiadi:
Everyone get their pie update, their midrange phone, xiaomi, motorola..while oneplus 5 pie update nowhere to be found.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] pillowsnyc:
I pray that this isn't real
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fir3blade:
This won't be real, updating font style will be a separate beta [emoji6]
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] intoxicated.mad:
How about community app??

And weather!! Lol
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] jgcaap:
How about the update app?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sid_Dungeon:
Now even the poco f1 got the pie beta! Damn. Thought OnePlus was better than MI.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Lirchu:
Too bad when they have several p update for 6t and not the first build on 5t.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] pillowsnyc:
How about the notes app?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Tyler83:
Now even the Mi A2, which is a 150€ device got stable Pie.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] hpbrasil:
Mi A2 Android One.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Aswin08:
To people getting too excited, here is the latest official status from an OnePlus Team Member Jeff. H

Pie is NOT coming this month for OP5/5T.

Source : OnePlus forum.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fir3blade:
Nobody gets excited here as we know OnePlus is settling nowadays.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
Lmao rip. I kinda wasn't expecting it anyways, and there's only two weeks left in this month
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Nobodyslight:
He says over. That's a weird phrasing for that. Sounds to me like he's saying it wont take over the rest of the days in the month to complete, but not the 20th. IDK probably not tho but that is a weird way to day jt
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Aswin08:
Yeah, just noticed, his statement is confusing. Maybe that's what he tried to do - to confuse.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Cpt. Strawberry Crepe:
Where is my new Beta update with community and gallery fixes? ?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Nobodyslight:
Can you blame them ? I'm sure they get all the blame and I'm sure that's all they can say and they're just trying to keep the pressure off them. Or maybe they don't know anything and they're just trying to sound informed.

But it's probably a translation error lol
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Aswin08:
Yeah translation error it seems.

Afterall Pie IS coming this month.

Hope they don't screw up the camera more.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] djmcnz:
I hope it's true because so many people here have already thrown all of their toys out of the cot, there's nothing left to have another tantrum with!
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] intoxicated.mad:
Yeah each hour we are getting closer to pie update ✌️
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Nobodyslight:
Well thank God. But ours wont have as many features as the betas for the 6, but honestly I won't complain. Pie is coming FOR MY BIRTHDAY LAWL
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] tcat007:
Enjoy Pie after eating turkey. ??? π
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Armani05:
Enjoy Pie after eating Oreo ;)
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] jgcaap:
Yeahhhhhhhhh. Within means... In the end? Lol
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] intoxicated.mad:
It's obvious Mark the last day of November ?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Aswin08:
Just when I expected them not to screw up anything with Pie, it seems they already have.

OOS Pie breaks Magisk Hide.

https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1065023623570907136?s=19

Will stay in Oreo.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] radz_:
I don't need Pie then. I hope OnePlus wont release pie for op5/t..[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] The_Overthinker:
Is just magisk hide affected, or is SafetyNet broken too? I'm sorry, I couldn't make head or tail of the link :eek:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ahepas:
Why are you guys whining all the time? Now you are whining hypothetically about an issue that isn't there yet... Relax and if you cannot wait flash a custom ROM...
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] jgcaap:
Whining is a sport. Not everyone is good at it. But some of us are excelent on doing it. :p
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Aswin08:
Are you on your sense? Who is whining for pie here?

I can only see healthy discussion here.

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Am not sure either,i need to ask someone using oos pie. But magisk dev is saying its also a security flaw and he is gonna write to OP about that. So most probably it will be fixed in future.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Nobodyslight:
A hidden post has been created on the OnePlus forums.... I guess we'll see what happens when it goes live....
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] the_reckoner1_1:
Just curious. How do you know about it if it's hidden?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] intoxicated.mad:
He used show hidden files option :p
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] intoxicated.mad:
You were right but it turned out to be a thread for 6t update lol
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] JackSparrow17:
For 5/5T OnePlus team have only one reply ' NO ETA'.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] intoxicated.mad:
BTW Jeff at oneplus forums has replied it would release as Pie with in Nov
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] zer0se7en:
That's ok. I was expecting it before Xmas. Sigh....
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] izzyserious:
Well, within November is absolutely before Christmas...
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mozotti:
There is a hotfix for BT issues for OB19?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DesertVelo:
Probably in the next beta. 5.1.7 addressed the BT issues.

Sent from the singletrack...
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit potdukhe:
https://www.bgr.in/news/oneplus-5-5t-android-9-pie-based-oxygenos-open-beta-update-is-almost-out/
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fir3blade:
"almost" "soon" "just around the corner" and so on can/might be weeks in the OnePlus world...
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit potdukhe:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DcF0qvZkxCPimZse6Qxb0w-OWfTcxk9R/view?usp=drivesdk

This is the link of hydrogen os pie beta . I am just copying and pasting on this group from community app.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] AhmedFaiz:
Seems like there is a leak in the oven.. thanks.. dirty flashed over 5.1.7 then flashed magisk.

Everything seems to work great... Atleast h2o pie looks good.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Pranjalesh:
Can i just simply update it from the stock recovery of 5.1.7 and clear cache after flashing ?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] AlexX-DE:
Why you spam this and another threads with this China hydrogen pie Beta? :confused:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit potdukhe:
I just provided the link if someone wants to try the rom. And it's the only group I have posted this link.

If you don't want to try just ignore it man . No one's forcing you .
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] djmcnz:
Who ate all the pies?
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iXaidyiu:
What he imply is that, IMO, there is a dedicated thread for H2OS Pie and thus the discussion between the two OSes should be seperated to their respective threads.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Chaplan:
I have to agree!

Surely feels like supporters are gonna feel a lot different on the 6T and later devices.

or is this so much in the past already?:eek:

Plans... to settle for sure.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Well i was expecting this to be raised by someone so good that you have mentioned this. The Developer program is something which is very close of my heart and i have been one of the few who strongly recommended some of the members and got them in the program. I have always felt that OnePlus is one of the best developer friendly devices and mostly thanks to this program and some deliberate decisions like making kernel source code available on the launch day for some of the previous devices and allow for easy unlock of all OP devices unlike some other OEM's.

Having said that, the program is suspended temporarily, there is a big difference between suspended and terminated, i can assure you this is not the end of the program. OP is working towards something of a bigger and better value to the development community. Currently 6/6T development would not suffer much as its going to be unified soon and most developers already have the 6 so it wont make much difference and for the next line of devices the team is going workout something soon.

None the less i appreciate your concern towards the developer community and the OP stand as a whole and i assure you that we will push for a viable solution. I have made some recommendations in the amendment/introducing something better for the most deserving and hopefully OP will come up with something bigger and better :fingers-crossed:

This is not the full stop, its just a pause, the Best is yet to come :good:

Coming back to the user community, the thread title for the OP is going to change soon and hopefully that will bring some joy to the users as a whole and one unified platform for all supported devices :highfive:

#NeverSettle
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fir3blade:
#NeverSettle sounds like mockery in this context
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Well it's just a way you look towards it. For me it's an progressive attitude to achieve more as there is always scope for improvement.

On the contrary I feel it's a mockery when developers who have received the devices rant about oos and bugs found on public platforms like Twitter. Developers should talk about the solutions rather than highlighting the problems. They have the money to buy all pixel devices but when it comes to oneplus everyone expects a free device :laugh:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] qsnc:
You have a point there, fully agreed. But at least partially: choose your devs more carefully instead of ranting here ;)

That might be because Google's software is still superior and most of all: released for ALL supported devices on the same day. A feat that (at LEAST for Treble devices) should be rather easy.
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
Guys its good to discuss the off topic once a while but let's keep the thread on topic and avoid off topic clutter. I will share any further developments on the case as they are decided. If anyone of you want to discuss more about this article you are free to open a seperate thread in the discussion section. Thanks :good:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
As I just said and discussed here is the official statement on what we were planning, it's coming back, bigger and better :highfive:

Here is OnePlus' official statement clarifying what'll happen to the developer seeding program:

"Apologies, we weren’t as clear as we could have been. We’ve temporarily scaled back our developer program while we work out how to make it even better in the future. We’ll be updating the selection criteria and communication channels with developers in our seeding program for better co-operation. We will restart the program and select Devs based on the new criteria and will work on providing the best possible support to community development efforts for OnePlus devices."

Source: https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...om-rom-kernels/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

There is a lot hapenning behind the scenes and I can't discuss it in Open but the team is working towards a solution rather than discussing the problems. OxygenOS would not be here today without out community and developer support and we can't thank you enough for your contribution.

Stay tuned for more details and upcoming updates :highfive:
[OnePlus 5T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Fir3blade:
Sorry but this is nothing but marketing blablabla.