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[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adambomb_13:
DUDE! These questions are all answered in other threads... Do you not realize you just hijacked a really important thread?

Jeeze WTH is wrong with people???

I'm starting to think they read the title hit go to last post and then post some crap that they want an answer for without reading ANYTHING AT ALL!

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I also am wondering if there will be a way to do this using ADB perhaps or some other option other than cracking it open. For one it sounds like its next to impossible to open it without ruining the speaker. I see oreo in our future now (no thanks to Verizon) thanks to this awesome find among other major things to make this one of the best watches now. But breaking it to have those things seems like cutting my nose off to spite my face...
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
Awesome work, make a separate thread for it.

Awesome work you have done here, just ordered a Wear24 a short while ago and have been looking for this all over the place! :)

Although I think you should really make a new thread for this with instructions, it took me going through pretty much all the comments on a lot of threads to find this.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daniel910821:
Hello everyone, i'm interested on buying this watch (50-60 dollars it's a very good price), but i'll like to know if someone use it on spanish as this is my main language
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
Normally you should be able to, on startup most android devices ask you to select the main language and according to a list on stack exchange (I would link it but can't as I haven't made 10 posts yet) Spanish is supported from android 2.3, and it runs on Android 7.1.1 so it should support Spanish. However I am not 100% sure. :|
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soskey22:
funciona bien en español pero el google asistant tiene limitada sus funciones
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joelphilippage:
Okay. I got a working cord by crimping the ends directly to paperclip bits instead of trying to splice the ends to a motherboard cord. I guess it had too many connections. Now I'm getting the bootloop. I initially flashed the latest official TWRP image but got the bootloop. I restored the backup "TWRP_backup_2.0.0.151212" and cleared cache and data but still couldn't get it to boot back up with stock recovery. Could someone give me the correct order to do everything? Thanks!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mkorenko:
Did you get the bootloop after flashing TWRP image and nothing else? What version of AW were you on before flashing?

Do a full wipe, then restore the backup "TWRP_backup_2.0.0.151212853", then flash ota update zip.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roswellraygun:
I was stuck in a bootloop for quite awhile and tried what I thought was everything. Awhile back [MENTION=8963962]mkorenko[/MENTION] mentioned something along these lines and it worked for me:

- First flash stock recovery, then boot into it, factory reset + wipe cache, then boot into twrp again and flash ota update, reboot

It's annoying because the stock recovery factory reset wipes the sdcard, and you have to transfer the ota over again. I've followed this twice now though, and it's been the only way to get my watch to boot.

Now I have a problem. When I fastboot flash twrp, if I keep system read only, then twrp gets overwritten. If I allow modifications, I get a bootloop. I don't install anything in twrp, I simply boot it then reboot the system. What am I missing here?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mkorenko:
Currently I have a flashed TWRP instead of native recovery (+root), and I am able to mount system with write access, also I've done system backup/restore (you can't restore system in r/o mode) and didn't get the bootloop.

That's really weird. You can try wipe + fresh install, then boot into the os, pass the setup, install all updates and then go step by step with twrp (flash, then reboot to os, then reboot to twrp, etc.).

We definitely need to collect all these steps to the ultimate flashing guide once we'll have a separate forum here.

Are you guys using the latest official twrp build?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joelphilippage:
I've been alternating back and forth between the first TWRP image that you said worked to the latest build but keep getting bootloop. I also tried roswellraygun's method (flash stock recovery, wipe, boot recovery, flash ota) but still have the bootloop.

I've also tried wiping everything restoring the backup and flashing the ota.zip.

Would just restoring a backup made after flashing a working TWRP fix this or is it more complicated than that?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
I may be the only one NOT to ever get a bootloop, so I'll post the exact steps and versions to see if it identifies any steps others are doing to cause the bootloop. This will be super detailed.

Unlock Bootloader

1. opened command prompt on host computer with Adb and Fastboot (Windows 10 pro build 1709)

2. via command prompt - adb connect 192.168.0.xxx

3. via command prompt - adb reboot bootloader

4. via command prompt - fastboot OEM unlock

5. Connect hand made USB connector to computer and then to watch terminals

6. Click OK on Watch screen to Unlock

Flash TWRP

Prior to Flashing TWRP, I performed many READ ONLY commands via "Fastboot boot twrp.img" command (using Mkorenko's 3/14 build of TWRP)

Prior to Flashing TWRP, I performed a factory reset on my watch, connected to Wifi, allowed system update, enabled developers settings, enabled wifi debugging, accepted ADB connection from PC, ADB pushed supersu 2.79 to phone storage from mkorenko's 3/16 gdrive link, downloaded mkorenko's 3/16 build of TWRP)

1. opened command prompt on host computer with ADB and Fastboot (Windows 10 pro build 1709)

2. via command prompt - adb connect 192.168.0.xxx

3. via command prompt - adb reboot bootloader

4. via command prompt - fastboot flash recovery twrp.img

5. Connect hand made USB connector to computer and then to watch terminals

6. On Watch click Allow Modifications to "Keep System Read Only message"

7. On Watch click Install

8. On Watch select SuperSu file uploaded prior

9. On Watch slide confirm

10. On Watch wipe davlik/cache ( i may have gone back into the TWRP Wipe menu and done this again to confirm)

11. Reboot to system

Everything worked, no boot-loops, nothing out of the ordinary. Hope this helps.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roswellraygun:
I have always used the latest (3.2.1-0) except a few times, when trying to get out of a bootloop (in case that was part of the issue).

So I have successfully flashed TWRP, with "allow modifications" (now twrp persists after reboots), and I don't have a bootloop! It seems to me, that if I flash TWRP and "allow modifications", I also had to flash root, otherwise I would bootloop. Is it possible that flashing root, which patches the boot.img if I'm not mistaken, is necessary?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joelphilippage:
You were right! I was trying everything everyone else tried to fix the bootloop and nothing was working. I never tried flashing SuperSU since I assumed this would make things worse. I just flashed supersu and it booted up! Thanks.

Some things I learned in the process:

-I had no big problems getting the back off the watch after heating it with a hair dryer for about 30 seconds, though I did ding it up a bit with the screw driver. If you are really worried about cosmetics, maybe invest in something very thin designed for prying off covers.

-You have to remove the little black rubber sticker in order to remove the sim card and connect to the pins

-You shouldn't have too many connection issues if you crimp the ends of a USB cable directly and securely. I had almost no failed connections after making pin connectors directly on the end rather than trying to make a nice connector with something else. It may be a bit harder to just use tape, but it gets pretty easy once you get the hang of it.

-A USB 3 connector doesn't seem to matter.

-Removing the sim card while trying to make a connection seemed to make a big difference for me.

-I was never able to boot back up to Android Wear after flashing TWRP even after restoring default system and recovery, but this didn't seem to matter as long as I flashed SuperSU.

Also here are the commands to remove Verizon apps after rooting:

adb shell
$ su
1|dorado:/ # mount -o rw,remount /system
dorado:/system/app # pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.vzw.hss.myverizon
dorado:/system/app # pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.verizon.jumpstart.chargingapp
dorado:/system/app # pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.verizon.jumpstart.app
dorado:/system/app # pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.verizon.lpa
dorado:/system/app # pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs

Thanks everyone for all the help!

-Joel
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
Just got my Wear24 and now I have rooted with all the help from the posts that are on page 19 and onwards!

Awesome thread and great work!

Also the fact that you can queue fast boot commands is really helpful, thanks for the tip! :)
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
I have been trying to get the sim to work (Three UK) but it won't connect (or even recognise the sim) even though I have entered the app settings correctly (according to their website) through adb.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
A lot needs to happen to get this to work. What LTE Bands does Three UK support. Remember right now it's locked to Band 13 for Verizon.

1. Need Watch to recognize SIM card. I also had issues with this and my Fi card. Others on this forum had some success with screenshots.

2. Unlocking LTE Bands. This is not an easy task, but I've seen some XDA discussions on this (https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059)

3. Changing APN settings. Since we have root, this is the easiest task to accomplish.

Let's break this down for each step. This is one of the major requests for this device.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
Thanks, I have done the APN settings but I guess I'll have to redo that if I get the first two done somehow. I have used 3G and 4G with this sim but I don't know which bands unfortunately.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joelphilippage:
Mine didn't recognize it until a reboot (Also using Fi). How do you have it inserted? Mine had the notched side facing the pin connectors. Did you put the foam pad back in to hold it in place?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
I have it inserted the same way you do but no, I did not put the foam pad back in, thanks, I'll try that now.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
Here is a picture of my watch with the back off:
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
Here is where marcsoup got his Google Fi data nano SIM card to be recognized. Not sure if he did anything special, the contacts were taped down to the original Verizon card.

https://xdaforums.com/android-wear/help/verizon-wear24-to-unlock-carrier-t3715300/page8
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hfutxqd:
Are you sure the SIM card can be replaced ？
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
Click the link in my post directly above yours, it's been done.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcsoup:
I didn't do anything special at all. Simply removed the original Verizon card and put the Project Fi in its place.

My new watch arrived last night and I'm flashing it at this very moment.

I am being a lot more gentle this time xD
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
Cool, I am currently trying to get Philips or flat head screws in the back because my trim-wing screwdriver is to big but I managed to get the screws out after a long time. Also where is the speaker/speaker wire located because I haven't seen it.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcsoup:
The speaker is actually on the bottom of the sim assembly. It's two layers. The top layer contains the sim card and test points, along with the connector for it. The bottom layer contains the piezo speaker. I took some pics of the old one I killed, but my phone doesn't want to cooperate right now, so I'll upload them in a bit.

--

Finally, they uploaded like 3 seconds after I posted.

Also, here's a couple hacked up usb connectors I made. They're not pretty, but one of them works. The other I accidentally swapped the data connectors...
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
Neat, I just cut a USB A to B cable and crimped the ends into a 4 slot wire holder.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
Your images are 320x240. I can't see anything.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Uclydde:
Any tips on getting the back off? I can't find anything thin enough to use to pry it off. I keep trying a suction cup with a ring, but the suction cup just comes off.

EDIT: Nevermind, got it open. Used a blow dryer on high for a minute or so, then the suction cup worked.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bkkzak:
Would you mind posting a photo of your suction cup on the watch? I'm curious where you got it too, because I may go that route rather than scratch the device up.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Firez85:
Hello everybody. I want to buy this watch, lte I do not really need, but nfc and android pay are needed. people who got root who ever tried to activate nfc and install android pay?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
Go back and read page 23. NFC is missing from Kernel.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Timmons:
Sorry if this has been asked before but looking at the pictures of the usb connection. it seems you have to hold the cable there and it doesn't just connect in but lining it up while you are typing the adb commands to push the recovery over. Is that the gist? There is no option for flashing recovery in any other way but to heat up the back of the watch with a hair dryer and pry off the back then hold pins on it while typing?

Is there no way of connecting debugging through wifi finding an open port and using adb over it?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
Once you enter a fastboot command it will wait there for a connection before it executes (unlike ADB). So for fastboot commands you can type the command in, then go over to connect it. (fastboot OEM unlock) (fastboot flash recovery twrp.img).

ADB commands might need you to type it in and use a toe while you hold the connectors... If you move the SuperSu file over via ADB WiFi prior to the fastboot work; you not need to use ADB with the USB connector.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lifeisfun:
I'm speechless that XDA Wear24 forum was still not created :(

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=76046283&postcount=22775

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Great news here

https://www.xda-developers.com/twrp-moto-x4-verizon-wear-24/
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
It'll happen soon enough. In the meantime hoard cheap wear24s when they are on sale.

What do we need to do to get delveopment started? Even though basic rooted stock ROM with the NFC libraries would make most on here happy. Having the kernel source in hand, are we missing anything but capable people?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Timmons:
Is there no way of leveraging the debug over wifi to do this without opening up the watch? Using just "adb connect ip"?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Uclydde:
https://imgur.com/w75xq6k

I got it with my ifixit toolkit.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
Fastboot requires USB. I know the thread is long, but there are discussions on it in here. You must open it up just once.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Timmons:
OP needs to update the first post on this thread so that it includes a faq with common questions or a new thread created to summarize everything while there isn't a board dedicated to this yet. You mentioned to buy up the watches while they are on sale. I know verizon isn't making them anymore and its a great watch definitely but with twrp support do you really think it'll take off and become more valuable once custom roms etc become available? I'm real curious as pretty much every device i get.. i try to hack with info from xda.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
The ifixit toolkits online seem to be black and blue, yours is clear. Can you provide a link to the kit you have. I'd hate to get one that doesn't work.

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Mkorenko, are you up for starting a new thread? I can help with content if you don't have time. Can you start a thread as a junior member?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Uclydde:
I got my "iFixit Pro Tech Toolkit" on amazon about 6 months ago for around 60ish dollars. But checking amazon, I don't see the exact version of the toolkit I got. I see a version that looks near-identical besides the suction cup (lol). It seems they made a revision of the entire toolkit just to change the suction cup. Anyway, looking around, I found what looks like an off-brand of the toolkit with a suction cup that appears to be the one I have. Which is here: https://www.amazon.com/ORIA-Screwdr...id=1522250766&sr=8-9&keywords=ifixit+tool+kit

I should mention though that the suction cup that I have is a bit too big for the back of the watch, meaning that it would probably be better to just get a different, smaller suction cup. If anyone decides to go the suction cup route, just know that it will NOT work without at least using a heat gun/hair dryer for a few minutes, and even then it'll take several attempts with the suction cup. But if you don't want to scratch up the back of the watch, this is probably the best option.

Another tip: with one hand, use your pointer finger to pull on the ring attached to the suction cup, and use your thumb and middle finger to hold onto the watch. Then, with your other hand, insert something similar to a guitar pick into the crack between the back of the watch and the sides that opens up when using the suction cup. If anyone needs a photo guide of this process, let me know.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
I am currently downloading the source for the ROM and am going to try compiling it with NFC in in the build and enabled.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
Did we just get a forum????

https://xdaforums.com/t/verizon-wear24
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
Not exactly. It's a topic, so it's more like a collection of the threads. Notice the parent forum for each topic is still the same. Also [MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION] XDA Labs can't load the URL.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blk_jack:
That's fine, it's not in the API.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Uclydde:
I tried to fashion one of those usb connectors, but mine wouldn't work, so I broke down and bought a usb to 5 pin connector, then just broke off the 5th pin on the end (the one connected to the extra black wire), and then I softly bent the 4 bins a little closer together. This worked beautifully, and I can easily hold it in place with one hand while I use my other hand to enter commands. Here's the one I bought:

https://amazon.com/gp/product/B000V6WD8A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Timmons:
Does the version of twrp that is for wear support wifi? Or once you do this usb connection and put recovery on it, is there a way to transfer files over (ideally roms that people will develop later) without reopening the watch and reconnecting the usb pins each time?

Guess this is where everyone is trying to activate NFC comes in?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Uclydde:
Well, you could boot into the watch normally, then use adb over wifi or adb over bluetooth, then use the adb push <file> <target location> to send the files (roms) to the watch, then boot into twrp, and install the rom from the system storage.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcsoup:
They made two versions. I own both. One comes in a grey case and the other comes in a black case. They updated it a little while back so the black case one has a larger set of bits and a few extra tools such as the plastic guitar picks and the metal pry tool. Here's a pic of the old version of the iFixit pro toolkit. I'm obviously missing a few tools and this kit has been heavily used. The old version comes with the clear suction cup

Also, no matter which method you choose to open the watch, make sure you're doing it on something soft like a cloth. It might seem obvious, but a reminder can't hurt. I managed to keep the back of the new watch nearly pristine but scratched up the bezel on the watch by stupidly placing it face down on the table.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
Did you use the hair dryer method? I attempted the Hairdryer with a small 1.25" suction cup and had no success, maybe I didn't get it hot enough. I might need better tools to do this. Would be great to have an actual perfect step by step with links to the exact items that 100% works, as users seem weary about opening their watches.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcsoup:
I just used a pry tool and pried it up as carefully as I could. I didn't bother with a hairdryer.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maamdroid:
Thanks everyone! I got twrp and root all setup.

I used a hairdryer and then the suction cup to get the back off. I did the hair dryer for about a minute and it wouldn't really come off. Once it cooled, I did the hair dryer again and then the suction cup was working to get it up just enough for me to be able to get a metal pry tool in one side. Once that was done I just slowly worked around the whole back and got it off.

I'm keeping verizon, so I only lifted up the tape and scratched off the black foam over only over the test pins. Once that was done, I was smooth sailing. :)
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wzhy:
You shouldn't use TWRP's built-in backup function unless you dont want to flash the official OTA. The right way for backuping system is boot into TWRP then run adb command on PC.

Just type "adb pull /dev/....(your system partition path) C:\system.img"

Restore can use adb push. All this command need you are in TWRP otherwise you dont have permission to do this.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bkkzak:
I've never heard of this, can you elaborate the benefits and functional differences?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wzhy:
TWRP's built-in backup function is base on files. It tar all files and compress them if use compression. Backup the partition is base on partition. Just like the Google's factory images. In addition you can use fastboot to flash this image if you have unlocked your device.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
OK, I bought the kit you are using in hopes that I can remove the back without a scratch. Not having much luck; how are you getting the pry tool in without damaging the back? Which specific tool, and where? If we can make a step by step that is flawless, I think we will get more people to unlock theirs as well.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lifeisfun:
Heat will do the trick, heat it up with hair drier
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
My hair dryer must not be hot enough, I've tried 8 minutes with no luck.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lolwatpear:
Can someone answer a few questions?

1. If you are on any version of Android Wear 2.0 this should work, right?

2. How are you resealing the case? Is it losing it's water resistance?

3. Can you increase vibration strength with root?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gundabolu SC:
How on earth do you remove the back? It doesn't budge one bit. What is the point of entry to start prying it?