yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Subversive Asset 2.0:
This is how we check things.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/2558/exifds3.png

^that's a 1280x800 screenshot, so that's why I don't hotlink it.

But check this out...you don't see any camera make or model information here.

Something that should be present is something like...this:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6199/exif2si7.png
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] alc630:
If my quick PrintScreen capture doesn't satisfy you STILL....

Please try to download files in the ZIP folder I attached, and RE TRY it.

Or, give me your email, I send it to you personally.

Edit: I downloaded my own zip attachment in the previous post, and IT WORKS. So, try the pics from the zip file I uploaded.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Subversive Asset 2.0:
OK, this checks out. These pics are legitimate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Subversive Asset 2.0:
The reason it's important is because...unlike what you say, it's not just that I or someone else is "frustrated with a crappy camera" because...remember...we all have the same camera here because we all have the same phone.

So if one person is taking amazing pics, then the entire community deserves to share in that.

Since we have the same hardware
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Synssins:
I agree that the photos look amazingly clear, to the point of questioning their source. Especially when compared with existing photos that we have taken. There is probably a better way of saying "Prove it" though.

They are beautiful photos nonetheless. Since you are taking such great shots, share with us what you have for a Camera app, and what settings you are using so that we can use the same settings.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] alc630:
That's fine. That's why I explained that I linked the images from Flickr.

Then I attached the pics on xda.

Then I put print screened the exif data.

Then I put the pics in the zip files.

I also stated my settings.

I also stated which updates I did.

I think I have shown that I WANT to share the setup with everyone.

But you straight out accused me of something. At least things are cleared up now.

Edit: Look to my 1st post. I have all my settings in there. And subsequent posts, I posted my Camera app for the China pics, and my current Camera app. I also explained that the most important thing that I did was to rub off the thin plastic film on the camera cover (battery cover). Take a picture with and without the battery cover, with MY settings, with MY camera app upgrade, and you will see that, AGAIN, the "setting" that makes the MOST difference, is the have a CLEAN camera cover. I assume no one else rubbed of the thin plastic film on the camera/battery cover. If you did, you will notice that, like I said before, it will become hazy.....then it will rub off completely....leaving you with a better than new clean camera cover (on the battery cover).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Subversive Asset 2.0:
exif data is supposed to be the most transparent and least painful way of proving it.

no one just took into account that there are several things that can inadvertently wipe out the data (e.g., upload service); personally, I wasn't aware that was possible (especially since you wouldn't think that xda itself would not preserve the data), so that left the only possible of manual removal.

sorry. But it was a perfect storm against you, lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Synssins:
There it is.

I removed some info from the post...

I will play with my settings tonight.

I also noticed the cover has some cloudiness to it. Hoping to clean that up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mbernstein:
alc630 is completely right. Look at the photos attached (they all look bad anyway, as I was just testing his idea). There are two sets of two photos, one taken without the back cover, the other one with. I believe I don't have to say which is which. Same settings, taken one minute apart.

That's why in good phone cameras like Sony's Cybershots and Nokia's, besides having a much better and bigger lens, the lens is outside. There is no ****ty cover. I'll try to remove the coating of the cover (there actually seems to be one). It should improve things a lot. Although this doesn't "cover" the fact that the Kaiser camera's quality is well bellow what should be expected from a phone as complete and as good as this.

-upload failed: but this is a simple test anyone can do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] alc630:
Actually I took all the pictures WITH the backcover on. None of my pics were taken with the back cover off.

But again, it just shows how the lighting, and everything else affect the Kaiser's cameras, including the backcover cleanliness.

I took those more recent pics to test the quality when compared to the China pics, because I had a different version of the Camera app in the China pics.

The thin plastic "film" won't come off easy. It took mine about a couple weeks to a month for it to completely rub off. I didn't really expect it to come off, I just have a habit of rubbing the lense clean with my shirt before every picture. But eventuall it came off and my pictures got way better than any setting could do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mbernstein:
I understand that you took the photos with the cover. I proposed a very easy test that anyone can do that confirms what you said. The difference of the photos I took should be greater than just removing the coating (as I removed the cover itself) like you did, but this method proves your point nonetheless. Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] samo.chan:
Here's two from mine.

Don't think my pics look anywhere as nice as some others...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Hazz-Prophet:
That´s what I see when I leave home and go working...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] robosiris:
These photos are hilarious and were taken yesterday as I was driving (very carefully, lol). I'll let you figure it out, lol.

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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] viperr007:
the new mgm grand
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] schemer:
@alc630

Look at this picture above, because the exif data is still there we can know right away that this was not taken by a kaiser camera (unless he intentionally altered the data). It was taken by a canon EOS 40D. You don't have to go a long way of proving it. Anyway your case is understood because of some third party mechanism or filtration, your exif data were wiped out w/o your knowledge. I advise that you use imageshack or other medium next time you upload your pics.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CraZyLiLbOy:
Hmmmm I smell bull****, of course he didn't take that picture with his phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Subversive Asset 2.0:
although it would be pretty nice if the kaiser did HDR like that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] samo.chan:
Why would people Want to post pics of other cameras and pass them off as their Tytn II ones? I can't understand this concept at all...

After all, isn't just a test of how good the Tytn II's cam is?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Subversive Asset 2.0:
well, if you can fake someone into believing that your kaiser takes better pictures than it actually does, that could be an incentive. Remember...most of the times, people don't really associate the kaiser's camera with "quality," so anything otherwise is a potential breakthrough
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dwarf:
Heres some pics I took in Applecross on the north west of Scotland when I went for a drive with some friends.

Taken with my kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sonox:
Malbun/Liechtenstein/Europe/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mugglesquop:
Panoramic shot on my way home from work... Good old English country side :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Foxhunter123:
About cleaning the lens...

Now it wouldn't happen to be the fact that we all are not aware of if there is some protection plastic covering the lens - you know like the plastic that often is on phonescreens that many people tend to keep on to protect against scrathes...?

I dont have the nerves to run a knife around the sides of the lens but I must admit it's tempting to try if there should be a thin layer of this plastic HTC just forgot to tell us about... :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mugglesquop:
lol :p nah.... or is there....?

i always for get to give the lens a quick clean before i use the camera :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] laakness:
That an Evo V or VI I see in the first pic?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikehoot2020:
Photo taken inside the Gaylord Texan Hotel in Dallas. All settings as default/auto.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bpapa9013:
Rainbow falling on sewage treatment plant.

Here is a lovely picture I took from my office window of a rainbow falling on a sewage treatment plant, not exactly a pot of gold but hey...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dwarf:
It's a VI mate
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] badbert:
Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions! Download that file and zoom in.... If I couldn't shoot a sharper focused pic than that with a EOS 40D, I darn sure wouldn't post it for others to see. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] laakness:
Badass, I have an VIII myself and love the older ones.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TCP:
my photos from Marseille

Last nadavi cab.

Same setting as alc630

without back cover

:):)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] schemer:
I don't think you're getting the point exactly...if you download that picture and zoom it in, you will get a pixelated one because that was already resized.

The metadata tags defined in the Exif standard includes:

Date and time information.

Camera settings. This includes static information such as the camera model and make, and information that varies with each image such as orientation, aperture, shutter speed, focal length, metering mode, and ISO speed information.

A thumbnail for previewing the picture on the camera's LCD screen, in file managers, or in photo manipulation software.

Descriptions and copyright information.

You won't find some of them in your camera phone though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] munraf:
Pic

Brooklyn Bridge, NYC
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tropmonky:
Geotagged pics!

Click the link below to visit my Geo Tagged pictures album in Google. LOVE IT! :D

http://picasaweb.google.com/tropmonky/PhotosTakenWithGPSTags/photo#map

BTW, much better pics after I took the plastic off the cover!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sparrowhawk:
Including a self-portrait in the car's wing mirror, I see.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Foxhunter123:
Ok...

I tried to clean the lenscover with my shirt and as written earlier in this thread it became blurry... But I didn't have the patience to keep cleaning so I took a cottonstick (you know the one you can clean your ears with... ;) ) and put it in some ethanol and then wiped the lenscover with that.

It did the trick! The blur has gone and the lens is clean!

Of course as always: Use this advice at your own risk :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mbernstein:
Complimenting the last post, I searched the net and found a tip to use BRASSO. I used a clothstick and put a drop over the cover plastic "lens" for a minute or so. Then I wiped it up with clean cloth, some water, then cloth again.

Now daylight photos with and without cover are pretty much alike. Very small differences. Interior night shots, with the cover are blurrier than without, as if out of focus. I am gonna keep testing.

The Brasso idea worked for me, but repeating the guy before, do it at your own risk.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sparrowhawk:
Some of the shots you get in low light are quite lamentable.

Pretty blonde chick playing with my instrument ;) after my bands' gig last night:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] technocat:
Heres some I took with automatic settings....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jacky_zhuxg:
Totally agree with you. the pics will be much much better when take the battery cover off. Thank you very much.

The thing is how can we take the thin plastic off with a simple way? :)

following two pics is captured by me today, one is battery cover on, the other is not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pepeto2001:
and the pictures will be MUCH sharper if you DON't apply HTC camera fix...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] badbert:
Just picked up my ride from the tire store today, thought I would share a few pics. Yes they are from my AT&T 8925!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moegdaog:
heres a pretty lil #
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Raymongo:
Finding Nemo!

Here's one i made in the aquarium in La Rochelle (Fr)

Not only did i find Nemo but I found his whole family :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Knumb:
I took this last week. I think it turned out ok since it was the first time I tried the panoramic setting...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rhamsterman:
Art??

I can't resist playing with the "effects"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Rhamsterman:
But for General Photography

A picture taken through the wifes sunglasses :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] antihrist:
this is pure horror of a car. never seen anything so ugly. hope this is not really yours and you are just kidding.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] thestapler:
Stock setting on latest HTC 6.1 rom:

Some random drawing I saw on the wall:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] JstarLuvsTina:
thats one of those donks..or dunks.. some **** like that right..

while i was in Miami for Memorial Day Weekend there was a car show and 2 artists "Rick Ross" and "Plies" had around 20 girls with 3 cars such as the one you posted, after i upload the pics..ill post em.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sumitescp:
Taken from Kaiser, All auto settings, nothing changed.

PIC #1 from my bedroom window.

PIC #2 my ps3 wallpaper on my 32" tv
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Brownstone:
Our Beagle Oscar, enjoying the sunshine at our bedroom window.

BS...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jg13x4:
My dog:

A squirrel that we feed in our backyard:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GWelker62:
My contribution

Note the rear view mirror. If you know the stadium being built, you know the one in the mirror.

Schaweeet!

Can you tell what bar this is?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Bronx31:
Giant Stadium, and Coyote Ugly:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] badbert:
You got me... I couldn't help but take pictures of this monstrosity!!

The paint is called "Chameleon" (very expensive) I talked to the owner, he spent $30k on the paint and body work!! He wouldn't even tell me how much he spent on the suspension mods, and wheels and tires! He owns the tire store and this is his dispaly, it gets lots of attention! had it been a two door I would hate the guy for doing that to it. But being a four-door it would have just been salvaged for parts for someone's two door. So he actually saved the car!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] strikeone:
nice car up there korben ;)

j/k; nice pic though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GWelker62:
Giant Stadium?, dude, not even close... but score one point for Coyote Ugly. I got an ass whoop'n (literally) by the chick dancing on the bar. It was part of getting a "body shot". If your good and keep your hands to yourself, they pull out a leather belt and perform corporal punishment on ya. :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rajm11:
well just a try

this is outside of my apartment one morning at 7 Am
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GWelker62:
One of my best pics yet

I also took this pic with my Tilt.. :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] AthenaLod:
hehehe, really good one
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tyeo098:
Psh Gary...

This is the view from my window. Not everyday, but sometimes.

My CARMY
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Allude2Prelude97@gmail.co:
Was this from the rocketry contest in The Plains, Va?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bronx:
I was thinking almost the same thing but just a quick glance at steering wheel told me the truth...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tyeo098:
Why yes, yes it was. I knew somebody would recognise it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ill13:
Taken at a flower and garden center in CT, USA. I will adjust the levels/remove noise, and possibly re-size on the pic, but I do that to all pictures I take regardless of camera.

this is taken with a tilt, the only editing/changes from copying off of the pda is resizing of the image, no color/sharpness/etc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] F2504x4:
As in life, timing is everything:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Synssins:
Panorama!

I took the following picture(s) in the middle of Lake Delton in the Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin one week after the lake washed a 400 foot section of shore out and drained itself in under 2 hours.

I used my Tilt for the photos, and then used MS Digital Image Suite Pro 10 to stitch them together in a panorama. Hence the overlap or double blur you may see in some sections of the image.

No color correction or adjustment to the images was made otherwise.

Click the image for a larger view.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MACkjam:
I took this one recently of my latest acquisition:

The Beuchat Chrono Diver 650m:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fun_gun_uk:
couple of mine

I do alot of digital photography(my hobby really) think these look a little over exposed but was just point and shoot as didnt have my camera with me.

took this one for a mate whose a games freak
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] strikeone:
nice pics everyone, especially yours F2504x4 :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tw39515:
outside my house
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zeezee:
haha wow...dirty :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bnycastro:
Breakfast
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Cheesy Dave:
Put a fork in it ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zeezee:
Here are some i took while on a walk:

Some child:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mikulec:
LOL, some child, good one.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Allude2Prelude97@gmail.co:
Ya, I was there too. I was an exhibitor from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Here's are a few pictures that I took last week before a major storm hit my area.

i love the panoramic one!!

tvos
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] godfa7h3r:
How bout this one? It's always a good decision.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] starclassic:
New Toy Story ride at Disney's California Adventure. with the big blue mickey loop from the roller coaster behind it.

I forgot to set for higher resolution.

Nice pic nonetheless for night time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] strikeone:
recently got back from a vacation to Arkansas:

duck-mobile rides:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] covflyer:
I am new to all this and I guess I must be going wrong somewhere.

My HTC TyTN II takes rubbish photos! See attached.

How do you all take such brilliant ones?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pepeto2001:
take the same photo without battery cover....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] F2504x4:
thanks...I was really surprised at how good it turned out...:eek::D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vj4:
ok i dont know if this worked as im using opera mini this was so shoking i had to share brighton few weks ago naked bike ride for some reason probably anti cars
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] strikeone:
yeah - no problem :).

try Nadavi's HTC Camera fix; it's what I use.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] moegdaog:
Here are pictures i took with my kaiser....two pictures were taken before i had nadavis camera fix, which are the two pictures i took in downtown toronto...the mime photo and skyline backround picture. The other two are images i took after i had nadavis camera fix installed...they are pictures i took recently at a barack obama rally in d.c...if you guys could plz tell me if you think one pair of pictures looks better then another pair...i dont think nadavis fix makes that much a diiferece because my two toronto images look really good...even the skyrise building backround photo that was taken in the night time with barely any light looks good...and the obama rally images had really good lighting cuz it was in the daytime, so i wanna hear some responses on if theirs a difference between the pictures....thanks guys
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] covflyer:
I think your Toronto pics look better!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] c-tang:
Nice photos people I need to get out and take some I was unimpressed from the first few I took. My old phone HTC/ T-Mobile dash with its 1.3 MP seemed to do better. But I try some more.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] covflyer:
I'm sorry, I thought you were taking the p*ss until I saw this on another thread and it works!!

The picture is loads better

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ThatGuy16:
A couple of macro shots

I must share this as well :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ApexPredatorBoids:
naja kaouthia

Here are some quick snapshots of one of my monocled cobras. I guess they didn't turn out all that bad but I'm still kinda disappointed with the Tilt's overall camera performance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GWelker62:
:):):):)

Oh.... which color do I pic?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Oh.... which color do I pic?[/QUOTE]

pick the silver one off to the left side..:)

tvos
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
Sometimes, kaiser just goes crazy and makes bad ass pictures. I guess abundance of light is really crucial for its camera.

Look at the detail and deeper focus
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
light is the key to good pictures with the tilt/kaiser....

what were your settings and camera version?

tvos
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mikulec:
OMG, my dream car.

btw very goo pic.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
Standard stuff, maxed quality settings.. i think default sharpness (+3). Was an overcast day so everything was lighted nicely..

Lol thanks.. living my dream =)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Kraize:
What car is that?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mikulec:
Subaru Impreza wrx sti
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mabyrd:
taken off the coast of France a month ago.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] AthenaLod:
this might be the best i have seen in this thread. might u share the settings?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Photographed with the Tilt / Mastered with Photoshop..

Mabryd,

No disrepsect with your photo, but I was drawn to touching it up with photoshop!

You did a great job on capturing the photo... was this random or are you a professional?

As you can see, I removed the people off the shoreline and added the seagulls in the background for effect. I really like both versions, but drawn to the b&w photo.

Enjoy,

Tvos
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mycell:
Vac Pics

Here are some Pics that I took with my tilt while on vacation in Chicago.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] smoka:
Where at in Arkansas...Hell thats where I am now..lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sparrowhawk:
Main street, Bailieboro, Co. Cavan, Ireland:

In the other direction:

St Kilian's church, Mullagh, Co. Cavan:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pjwilkin:
Rochester castle
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sparrowhawk:
Down by the lake:

Bushmills distillery, Bushmills, Antrim, Northern Ireland:

Giant's Causeway, Antrim, Northern Ireland:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Sparrowhawk:
Some more from the Giant's Causeway:

In the airport coming home.