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[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Two years ago when I was in the market for a new device my final two choices were between the N6 and the Moto X Style. The Moto X Style lost. Not because it isn't a good device - my roommate has one - but because of two things. The screen, and the camera.

No matter how you slice it, LCDs are older technology, and not as battery efficient as AMOLED. As a more mature technology they are more trouble free than AMOLED however. But for media consumption, having your blacks actually be black more than compensates for burn in. Burn in which, I might add, I don't see on my device to any noticeable degree. Oh, and size did matter here.

As for the camera, ignoring the obvious, the lack of OIS, more pixels does not equal better pictures. Wonder why so few flagship devices go above 13 megapixels in 2017? It's because of the law of diminishing returns. A simple truth about a digital camera is that the more pixels a camera has the less light each pixel can take in due to decreased surface area of the individual CCDs making up the sensor. The solution OEMs came up with? Decrease the pixels and increase the aperture. For me, the decrease in pixels was more than offset by improved light gathering capability and the presence of OIS. HDR+ is a bonus but didn't figure in my decision.

Heading into 2018, I still would take the N6 over the Moto X Style. But about this time next year I anticipate having a Pixel 2XL, so there you go.
[Nexus 6  General] runekock:
Two things I don't like about displays today:

1) Unnecessarily high resolution, which makes the SoC work harder, leading to less performance and worse battery life. There is no point in having more details than the eye can see (around 300 dpi).

2) Pentile on almost all amoled displays. It looks fuzzy, unless of course the resolution is unnecessarily high. It was noticeable on the Galaxy Nexus with its lower resolution, and it makes me think twice about the OnePlus 5.

Google should have given the N6 a 1920x1080 display without pentile.
[Nexus 6  General] Bill720:
screen technology and camera performance

Bingo. The reason why the Galaxy Note 2 (that I used before) was able to get away with just 720x1280 on a 5.5" Oled panel was because it used a proper subpixel layout that did not share pixels. These days, 1080x1920 is probably a more appropriate choice for this size class, but if the panel uses the dreaded "pentile" layout, then it automatically decreases the perceived/effective resolution.

Thanks to its proper RGB subpixel layout, the Pure Edition could've gotten away with a 1080x1920 panel and had resolution to spare, but the Nexus 6 needs its 2K display in order to compensate for the loss in sharpness that is caused by use of pentile.

No matter the reason, as you mentioned, forcing the chipset to render exponentially-higher resolution graphics strains it more than would've been necessary.

It's interesting that you mention this because, one year ago, I was in the market for a new device and the Pure Edition won on the basis of its unlockable bootloader, Verizon compatibility, and having one of the best screens in the industry. I'd been burned by Samsung and their "super" amoled nonsense twice in a row by that point and decided to get away from it altogether for future daily-driver smartphones (at least until the technology matured).

While I too was originally concerned by the high camera resolution, figuring that the mainstream reviewers' opinions were probably right, I was pleasantly surprised to find that it actually does a really good job. You are correct to say that resolution isn't everything, but I was pleasantly surprised. Lack of optical stabilization was a slight letdown, but I've been nothing short of blown away by the quality of the photos, especially when one considers how low the bar was set by the mainstream reviews.

The "battery efficiency" thing is debatable, but the contrast ratio of the Pure Edition is very good as it stands, especially considering its nearly-triple maximum brightness output when compared to the 6. The lack of "perfect black" is hardly even noticeable unless you're using the device in a particularly dark environment or are really looking for it.

I could give the 6 a pass here if the software complemented the hardware, but as it is, the default calibration is nothing short of horrendous (and it gets worse as you turn the brightness down). Having to install a custom kernel and fiddle around to get something that almost matches what the other phone can do out-of-the-box with the stock kernel is a noteworthy letdown for me.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Screen calibration? You've been watching too many of Erica Griffin's review videos on YouTube. She is the only device reviewer I'm aware of who goes so insanely into depth regarding the screen. And I get why she does it, since without a screen a smartphone is but a chunk of plastic, metal, and silicon. But there are more people like me than there are you: people who don't actively look for issues like that. That said, I have to wonder if my device, being a late vintage, used an updated panel. The colors are about as accurate as on my laptop.

I say that because I've never had to install a custom kernel to fix something that to me isn't broken.
[Nexus 6  General] def1003:
some idiot comes into a nexus forum filled with a million ways to change anything you want and cries about not being able to change things... what?
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
[MENTION=6656143]def1003[/MENTION]: And who exactly is the idiot? Up until your post the discussion has been civil between [MENTION=5170671]Bill720[/MENTION] and myself. We may not agree with each other, but he has put forth solid reasoning behind the assessment he made. He's earned respect for that, as the two devices are indeed very similar in specifications, and choosing between one and the other is difficult.
[Nexus 6  General] Bill720:
on Oled screens...

I can't say that I watch too many of her videos, (the last one I actually remember was the Galaxy Note 2 dummy phone drop test series) but I'll study up take a look at some of her thoughts on the Nexus 6.

My opinion is based on more than benchmarks (which objectively demonstrate poor quality) however. I'm not "that guy" who has a calibration gadget and calibrates all his monitors, but I can tell the difference between "good enough" and when everything looks like a cartoon. It's not just that I'm accustomed to the Pure Edition and all of the other monitors and screens that I use on a regular basis; it's also the fact that, after looking at the real world and then the Nexus 6's portrayal of the world, the mind knows that something isn't right.

That's not to say that it isn't fun to look at sometimes, but the mediocre default calibration crushes the natural vibrance of the displayed image, both objectively and subjectively. And that's at normal brightness. Turn the dial down, and things go from disappointing to downright silly.

I realize that OEMs are bound by some unseen force to perpetuate the myth of Oled's "vibrance" by applying these hyped-up calibrations from the factory, but all I'm asking for is the option. In the Moto X Pure Edition's stock rom/kernel, the user is given a choice between a "natural" and "vibrant" profile. If they'd provided something like that on the Nexus 6's stock software, I'd be accepting of their willingness to make an effort. From what I've heard, Samsung and OnePlus now give at least 2 choices on their Oled-equipped phones. I understand that even the "natural" option isn't anywhere close to perfectly calibrated, (regardless of display technology) but it at least lands the ball in the park, which is all I want.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Ironically, that is what Google is doing for the Pixel 2/2XL. But only after people complained about the natural color palette Google used. If blame were to be applied for the punchy and vibrant colors of AMOLED, look no further than Samsung. And since they are the biggest Android OEM, more people see their screens and expect all other screens to look like that.

I think I'm one of them. My last device was a Galaxy S4. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] Bill720:
thoughts on Oled calibration

Perhaps Samsung has trained its customers to expect cartoony results on Oled screens by using their marketing muscle to perpetuate the myth of Oled's "vibrance." This doesn't mean that it's a mainstream opinion though, as Apple has historically managed to get their iPhones in the ballpark as well. We'll have to see what they do with the new Oled-based iPhone X.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
I don't know if it will do anything, but I just installed an Android 8.1 ROM and toggled the SRGB colorspace option in Developer Options.
[Nexus 6  General] damiloveu:
For the same money, about $100, the Kodak Ektra has much faster overall performance and brighter screen.
[Nexus 6  General] Bill720:
RGB and Kodak

That option is there in the stock rom too, but it doesn't do anything. In fact, if you back out of the developer options and go back in, you'll find that it is turned back off.

That's an interesting-looking product for sure, and while I would have to assume that they put a decent camera in the thing, there's very little support or discussion on it anywhere. It doesn't even have a forum on XDA DEVELOPERS. The biggest non-starter for me, however, is lack of band 13 LTE and CDMA support/certification for Verizon. This could possibly be an attractive buy for AT&T or Tmobile customers, however, depending on how the rest of the experience holds up.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
[MENTION=5170671]Bill720[/MENTION]: If I recall correctly it's nothing special, with its only claim to fame being the camera.

And I did notice that the SRGB toggle shut itself off.
[Nexus 6  General] Bill720:
Kodak fails to replace Motorola...

Probably true. After reading/watching some of the few mainstream reviews that do exist for it, the conclusion reached is that the camera is acceptable, but nothing better than the high-end phones of 2016. The rest of the experience was average (at best) and the device does not appear to have gained enough mainstream traction for "XDA stuff" (root, Xposed, custom roms/kernels, etc.).

While we're on the topic of alternative phones however, for folks who can tolerate Oled, the OG Droid Turbo combines the camera, features/software, and elegance of the Moto X Pure Edition with the screen technology and chipset of the Nexus 6, while adding in a positively massive battery pack. The prices on that phone have now dipped down below $100, (with some being sold for as little as 75-85) but a $25 ransom must be paid to be able to unlock the bootloader. If it weren't for the Oled screen, that thing would come dangerously close to "daily driver material" for me personally, and the fact that the navigation keys are hardware instead of drawn on-screen does eliminate the prime cause of uneven Oled panel wear.
[Nexus 6  General] peekie:
with the nexus rooted and using the paid app colour changer pro i have tweaked my nexus 6 to a really good screen with all the colours and tones looking perfect , without that app the screen was not the best , now i think it is , but using the same app on my samsung s8+ has boosted the look and feel perfectly , if your not happy with your screens look then try that app as it will make you enjoy your old nexus 6 or any oled or lcd phone.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
[MENTION=225371]peekie[/MENTION]: I'm sure he has already done that. As much as we may like the device, we have to keep in mind this device is not perfect. As someone new to the N6 he found the experience disappointing, mainly because of the screen. I can understand where he is coming from, even though I've not had any issues with the screen. What I did find laughable was the poster who thought a budget Kodak phone could in any way compete with two flagship-level devices.
[Nexus 6  General] Bill720:
On calibration software...

It is worth mentioning that (on the Nexus 6) only the screen experience was disappointing for me. Apart from that, it's a solid device that "reminds me of home" in a lot of ways. I couldn't have asked for a better backup/secondary phone. It's a solid piece of hardware with only one noteworthy bummer, so I don't want to sound too overly critical of it.

Regarding "universal color shifting software," it's been my understanding that outside of apps that can work directly with the kernel, there are always negative side effects. With that in mind, unless something has changed since then, I'd like to stay away from that stuff.
[Magisk] xNotta:
I like to switch between two different developer's kernels and they seem to work better when flashed over the stock kernel and not custom kernel 2 being flashed over custom kernel 1.

My resolution to this is to restore to my stock rooted with magisk kernel then flash the other custom kernel. This results in a Magisk brick where you can't uninstall Magisk and you can't install magisk again due to the stock boot image being modified. The only answer to fix the Magisk brick is a system wipe and rom re-install.

If I uninstall between kernels, all of my Magisk settings and modules are uninstalled too if it doesn't just give the modified boot img thing again.

How can I swap between kernels while restoring stock without getting Magisk bricked?

Example: Custom Kernel 1 > Stock Kernel > Custom Kernel 2. This always leads to the Magisk brick.

Nexus 6, 7.1.2 NitrogenOS, Stock kernel, ElementalX kernel, FK Kernel.
[Magisk] shadowstep:
Whenever I have to move between kernels, I do the following:

Dirty flash ROM zip (to restore the stock boot.img that ships with the ROM) or manually extract the boot.img from your ROM's flashable zip and fastboot flash it

Flash Magisk zip

Flash new kernel zip

Reboot and profit!

I haven't faced any issues ever with this process, following the order listed above. Give it a shot. Good luck! :good:
[Magisk] redsun_ravi:
Y no back up stock boot from the starting?
[Magisk] shadowstep:
Why do you need to backup the stock boot image from the beginning? It's already a part of the ROM zip that you flash. You can always dirty flash to go back to the boot image that ships with the ROM that you are using or extract it from your ROM's flashable zip.
[Magisk] redsun_ravi:
Y unpack rom and repack boot

Y flash whole rom and loss magisk setting, fonts, adblock host and other stuff

While u can just give 10 sec to back up boot
[Magisk] BurnedDrake:
No real need to fastboot flash it, just flash the boot.img in TWRP, only takes a second before you flash Magisk
[Magisk] shadowstep:
Repack boot? I never said that anywhere. Also, I hope you mean unzip the ROM zip file.

Anyway, backing up the boot image would serve no purpose as the OP wants to switch to a different kernel, which means a different boot image that the one he/she is using right now. It'll be pointless.

Of course the boot image can be flashed via TWRP too. I just gave that as an alternative option. Never said it has to be done a certain way. :)
[Magisk] BurnedDrake:
Oh I know, it wasn't a criticism, just one less reboot is all
[Magisk] yung40oz84:
U don't lose all the magisk stuff on dirty flash. The only way u lose all that is running the magisk uninstaller. I wipe system, boot, and cache, dirty flash ROM, then magisk, then new kernel. All magisk modules, host files, settings are still present no matter what device or what ROM. Boot is included in ROM so dirty flash flashes that stock boot.img and starts fresh.
[Magisk] Shished:
You can flash kernel with fastboot.

Extract boot.img from zip, then run

fastboot flash boot boot.img

After that you can backup boot in twrp and flash magisk.

Repeat with other kernel.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ohaai:
I have my d850 for a long time. in the past it did this thing where it would reboot constantly until I plugged it in. A new battery solved that issue. Now, 8 months later, it happens again, only difference is that plugging it in doesnt help. Ive tried two new batteries this time, first one didnt work and i figured it was faulty so i returned it and got another, which still doesnt fix the issue. I turned on the phone without my sim and sd card which made no difference either.

I just unrooted my phone and reset to stock, which still doesnt fix the issue either. should i bother with a third new battery to test this? this phone works so smoothly, still fast, still a GREAT phone...I just cant pin point the issue thats causing the reboots as ive tried all i can think of. Id hate to have to toss it. any other suggestions?

thanks in advance!
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] souler456:
Have a good read on this thread right here... Maybe some comments may help you :)

:D :) ;) :good:
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ohaai:
wow thank you. i have seen a few other threads on how to disassemble the phone for screen flicker, overheating, etc but I havent came across this one. I tried applying thermal paste ( an idea i found in the thread you linked me to), it seems to restart less (without the sim card in, but wifi and location/google maps works fine). since its restarting a lot less, im thinking of opening again and actually purchasing and applying the thermal pad.

Does anyone else have suggestions? and again, thank you!
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] souler456:
I use Non-Stock ROM for my device ever since 2 years ago (not a fan of Stock ROMs), and I have no issues aside from early throttling (can be solved with thermal pad). Maybe the issue only persist because you use Stock ROMs. Try changing into Non-Stock ROMs like AOSP or LOS with a good kernel.

:D :) ;) :good:

---------- Post added at 05:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:54 AM ----------

Edit: If you don't want to, I also remembered that "paper" trick, don't know what thread is it, but it fixed the bootloop on some users. Maybe it's on reddit
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ohaai:
thats the thing, ive always been rooted. always. but for testing I did unroot and revert back to stock and the problem still sticks. after realizing that I rooted again and went back to marshmallow (instead of nougat, and ive tried more than a few roms using marshmallow and a few different ones with nougat). So ive done with non stock roms for a long time, and i do prefer it.

So ive done the thermal grease without the thermal pad and it worked for a day(literally), and stopped working and constant rebooting all over again. I got a new sim card today, no luck. so i may try this thermal pad. but since just the theermal grease seems to not have fixed the issue, im not so sure the thermal pad will work either, but will give it a try.

another thought though, when flashing roms or kernels, it goes through the process like normal! but when actually booting up or when operating (like texting or surfing the web, or just sitting on the counter/in pocket), it just restarts constantly or bootloops(just shoes the LG screen and turns off, and then LG screen again, and so on)! i cant pin point the issue. im gonna look into the paper trick and possible look into purchasing a thermal pad. can anyone provide links in the one they used? i saw the link in another thread just wasnt sure how long that would take to ship to me. maybe i can see what other used?
[HTC Startrek] Smith2001:
Hi all

I just wanted your views on what to do with my Qtek 8500.

I'm about to buy a brand new Qtek 8500 sim free for £65.

I just wanted to know exactly how i should proceed in regards to upgrading it to the latest ROM and WM6 with the newest radio for the best coverage. This includes any spl things and CID unlocking (though i do wonder is it CID unlocked due to it being sim unlocked?)

Any thoughts and suggestions on how i proceed would be greatly welcomed.

Thanks all

Dan
[HTC Startrek] Smith2001:
Had a look around and decided to get a I-mate smartflip, now from what i have read its the exact same as a Qtek 8500 except the name on the front and a few screens and software changes but still the same WM5.

However as this has a smaller ROM as the 3125, will installing the clean edition of the WM6 rom here work well or will the phone be really really slow?

I'm aware i will have to CID unlock the phone and that looks simple according to this forum but any points on how to flash the new radio also off the WM6 page would be helpful.

Thanks
[HTC Startrek] damiantmc:
Hey, good to here another joining in the STRTRK parade lol :-p

I got the Qtek 8500 from expansys about a week ago to supplement my tytn 2 (for the £65 bargain!) and have since cid unlocked and installed Erofish's WM6 rom, the latest version also includes Office 6.1 which is very handy, I thoughrally recommended it, it runs very fast and very stable, its made the phone so much better. with just windows mobile 5 it felt old and horrid but now it feels great, its even a bit faster. I'd go for it, the grace of winmo 6 is great
[HTC Startrek] Smith2001:
I've just updated my MTeoR to WM6 and thats brought it back into life too. thanks for replying, as a new user i am insterested to see what you think of the battery life?

As a previous windows smartphone user i am used to charging up the phone every night, is that something we have to get used to with the StrTrk ?

thanks again
[HTC Startrek] Jozer99:
My 3125 lasted 3-4 days between charges, with moderate use. If you are talking 4-5 hours a day on ANY cell phone you will probably have to charge it daily. Also, there are two battery sizes (I don't know which size the 8500 has). The larger battery has a back cover that is not completely flat. This is the battery I had (standard on the 3125). The small battery will probably only last 2/3 as long.
[HTC Startrek] Erofich:
Qtek 8500 has 750mAh battery

Cingular 3125 has 1100mAh battery
[HTC Startrek] unwired4:
Mine arrived today and I got WM6 on it... following the various guides here - only to discover that the internal speaker doesn't work!
[HTC Startrek] Smith2001:
did you buy a qtek 8500 or the smartflip as its cheaper?

also which WM6 did you go for? the one with working GPRS or the other one that doesn't work with GPRS ?
[HTC Startrek] unwired4:
I bought the qtek as the imate wasn't on expansys list yesterday... and I went for the Gnatgosplat light rom - and gprs worked fine on that.
[HTC Startrek] Smith2001:
Mines arrived, i am pleased with it, didn't realise that the keypad was so huge but overall impressed. just gotta find the time to put WM6 on it now.
[HTC Startrek] Smith2001:
Just pruchased a 950 mAh battery off ebay for my new imate smartflip, which i love by the way!!

anyone got one of these batteries running and if so how much more charge can i expect over the 750mAh?

thanks
[Blade General] sdcar1985:
I've tried and searched just about everything to get my internet work properly. I have full bars of 4g LTE and my internet is still going ridiculously slow. I have good coverage where I'm at. I've tried searching online and on YouTube looking for different apn settings but nothing seems to work. My speeds are all over the place and I've never seen a fast download speed. I've seen some good uploads but that's bout it. Anyone know what I can do? Their customer support didn't help much.
[General Questions and Answers] nn920cc:
Hi/Hello Ppl my head will explode because of this..

*i have Samsung Galaxy Note 5 running Nougat 7.0

-is there any way to remove the Clock & Time from lockscreen because its covering my beautiful wallpapers or art wallpapers that i do ??

-i tried every Google search for even days not hours only.. < Found Nothing..

-i don't want to install 3rd playstore apps because consuming battery life !!

-i have Root access and i tried all exposed modules all seems working on Lollipop or marshmallow..

-any help plz..

-at least tell me where i can find this ugly clock in system folders/files so i can delete it with Root Explorer or replace it with null 0 byte file or even reduce its permission..??

-Thanks in Advance..