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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Under Oreo, LG V30 updates have to be delivered within 90 days (due to Google's Enterprise Recommended rules). The last ESA (PHILLIPINES/INDIA) INDONESIA) region KDZ was delivered END of August with August security patch.

That means a new ESA KDZ is due by end of November.

LG can always deliver sooner if they wish, but can't be longer than 90 days.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
Yes I just remembered, but Philippines ROM was delivered with June security patch right? I'm using that one and still stuck on June patch.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Looks like your normal should be 5h sot

Must be some of your apps. A reset and then reinstalling everything back does not fix the problem if an app or more is running longer than it should be

After a reset, reinstall a few, monitor for a few days, then again few more, its a slow, annoying process. Lack of root makes this more tedious than it should be
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sid@developer:
I used my phone in safe mode for 3 days...in a row...still having that issue... now... we cant blame the apps?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
80% positive reviews on amazon india. Already thirty verified reviews up since it went on sale less than a week back :D

https://www.amazon.in/LG-V30-18-Ful...ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&pageNumber=1

This thing's moving
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] aswathsaru:
Can we root LG V30+ India variant ? And install custom ROM?

Model : H930DS

Edit : it seems indian variant will be unlocked :( just gone through the forum and got this info.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xebeck:
G6 also had a very similar pattern to this one... That's how I was lured into buying it.

G6 experience is also how I've come to distrust the tech review channels.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Are you saying your experience with the G6 was much better than the tech reviewers would lead you to believe ?

That people on amazon helped make your mind up
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Wonder if there will be more colours released. Amazon only has Aurora Black and Cloud Silver

Where is Moroccan Blue & Lavender Violet.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xebeck:
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No...

It was pretty much opposite of that.

Its experience got so difficult for me that I had to sell it within 2 weeks at a 15k ( 36k - 21k ) loss.

The poor bloke who bought it from me also exchanged it with someone for a 11 month old Pixel. He and I have become WhatsApp buddies over our grievance's of G6.

And before that I had bought my wife a V20... It bootlooped.. thankfully it happened within 10 days of Flipkart return plan so I exchanged it and then immediately sold that new unit but at a loss of 11k( 42k - 31k ).

So now she is happy with her S7 and I have a MiA1...

But my belief from LG has not gone yet...

Just can't decide between U11 and V30. Right now they are at very similar prices.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Explain ?

A boot loop within 10 days of purchase is a record even for a G4 and i have one of those.

V20 i have is just fine over a month in. I don't expect a boot loop ever, given i didn't find any one report one in over a year in the g+ community. G4's started failing sooner.

Bootloops for LG's are g4 & V10, it stops after that with future models or is less likely.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xebeck:
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I guess I was unlucky with my V20.

And these are facts that happened to me...

Also please note that I don't believe in being loyal to or anti any brand.

I just want my money's worth.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shethsa:
Battery drained 20%in 3 hours of standby. Will try with battery saver mode 2
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
What happened with the G6 ? why did it become so difficult within just two weeks
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xebeck:
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I'll tell you but kindly don't attack me back. I'm not hating on any brand.

1. I did not like the UI experience especially coming from 3t to GO( used Nova launcher so ok)

2. Standby battery drain was atrocious. I'm not a heavy gamer at all( only play those text story games,if ever), Just use Twitter and WhatsApp apps and for FB, Instagram and everything else ,use chrome. And I always clear apps from recents menu regularly( out of habit )

3. Heating issues were particularly worse. Once I felt it warm on my chest through the shirt pocket while in a car driving at 5 in the morning with AC on. I hadn't even used the mobile or any apps by then. Just got up, took bath, put phone in my pocket and drove off. That was the night after office when I had put it on OLX.

And boy was it a ***** to sell them...

And it's not that I was looking for a reason to sell them. I put in a lot of time searching the net and various forms to find a solution... Nothing worked...

That is why I do not believe in tech reviewer's any more.

Tech Altar's video on G6 convinced me. But after these problems I reached him on Twitter and his response was, 'oh yeah it happens. I don't use it much so it's fine.'

I was like,in my mind of course, You could've put that in the review and I would've........

So now I've bought a MiA1 and am reading up on XDA about U11 and V30... One of them is gonna be mine come January.

At XDA real users do come up with all aspects of the phone and that is a little assuring if time consuming.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] saj2001ind:
In XDA also you will find a lot of fan buys which can persuade you...but after all finally it's your money and your choice

So far if you change themes and use Google apps on V30 it will turn out to be a pixel phone with much less price .. this is all I can say if you hate LG ui like me

And sound quality is the biggest reason one would consider v30 and that too with 128gb

All in all this time it's great package but again it's your money and choice ...choose wisely
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xebeck:
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Thanks for being polite ( I guess politeness and courtesy are like the headphone jack in these times ?. )

I've seen the fan boys.

At the pixel 2 forum, I was in conversation with a dude who had just bought a Pixel 2XL and informed us all there. All I asked him was how will he manage without the dual SIMs ( which was one of his concerns that he had told us earlier ) and some other random guy decided to simply rebuke me on that question. Calling me stupid , less fortunate and telling me to write to Google to make one with 9 sim slots just for me?.

I found it very amusing.

It's not your favorite sports team that you have got to back all the time through thick and thin. It's a consumer product and you should just want to have the best for your money whether it's Rs 14999 or Rs 44999.

I've been scorned twice now by LG mobiles with V20 and G6 but I'm still considering it's next V30.

Because it's was as much as my fault buying them without due diligence as it was theirs for making them.

But if V30 is a 'bang for your buck' mobile, then everyone should go for it ir-respective of it's brand.

Cheers...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Point 3 causes 2. it should not be heating up to begin with when doing nothing.

Implying, possibly, there was a hardware problem. Was approaching the service centre an option ?

All assembled in India these days so should be serviceable in India as well.

Tech reviewers can't help in what in your case appears to be a manufacturing defect. Definitely the case with the v20. Freak case.

When assembling maybe they didn't apply enough thermal compound on the G6. What's odd is to get two phones like that in a row. You're really pushing the odds there. And prices you quoted are for brand new, so no dodgy sellers there.

The U11+ if its available would be a better match for the v30+

Camera is decent but HTC's silly premature decision to get rid of the headphone jack weakens it in comparison to the V30. Once you use the wide angle you will miss it when its not there

What puts me off HTC phones is they're difficult to repair. Failures are less common though. People almost swear by them for reliability

As a rule i only buy phones with a manufacture date three months at least after launch. Figure this way any manufacturing defects in the system will have worked their way through. Any screen anomalies fixed etc. This is where i take any negative points about a device by reviewers and people here soon after launch with a pinch of salt. Pre production models are by definition not perfect. Retail versions are generally good. If not there's always warranty.

Anyway, kudos for still considering an LG after two duds :)

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Two phones or two box solution. No more battery problems. Old trick that applies today and will apply in the future.

Google's problem is their phones must not upset their partners. With the nexus series they were niche. The nexus series never threatened any partners sales

Then they got rid of them and introduced pixel which is overpriced for what you get. Again its the same game plan. Don's piss off the partners. If the price is high, people will look at the partners offerings. Again, it won't compete for sales with them

Same with surface products from MSFT, same with the iphone x (no competition with 8, 8 plus or earlier)

You have got to really want x, surface anything or pixel on an emotional level to justify the price
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xebeck:
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All good points...

Thanks
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shethsa:
On battery saving mode 2, battery drain is much slower. Guess I'llake this my default. Guess I'm spoilt coming from the one plus five.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xebeck:
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Also

How can one check the manufacturing date of the mobile if it's ordered online...?

It's a good logical point though.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Difficult to stick to as the hype builds up and hitting the buy button becomes irresistible. But this gives you plenty of time to research, meanwhile the price drops, software updates fix bugs etc. Every phone that comes out has some drama attached especially on xda.

manufacture date is on the sticker on the box and inside the phone for those with replacable batteries

There's an app calld LG phone from, hmm seems its been renamed to

LG Phone Info

Idea is manufacture month and year that the app gets based on IMEI should match the manufacturing month/date of the sticker on the box
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
No, the latest ESA KDZ for Phillipines/India/Indonesia all have August security patch. But LG India insists on numbering theirs one letter behind LG Indonesia and LG Philippines. But ESA = ESA.

Dev has examined ALL the ESA KDZb with the same security patch, and they're exactly the same. What gets installed depends on what SIM card you have.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
So there is another Philippine ROM after your Oreo thread?

If so why didn't I get OTA for August patch..
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Not sure why you didn't get OTA, but I've posted the latest KDZ (with August security patch) in the India KDZ thread. It's 20C.

In the future, I may have to use "LG India" numbering due to people not understanding how these regional KDZ work. I can't help it LG India released their Oreo two months later than the identical KDZ released in Indonesia and Phillipines, but still tried to number it as 20A...

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
Ya i thought I didn't have to format again... Then I wanted the sound mods since the volume was so low while using headphones so I figured I'd flash custom ROM since I'd have to root anyway but I've found a work around after reading those threads so I thought I'd stick with this ROM and was waiting for August patch forever. Now that 20C is official Indian stock one right?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
See attached screenshot. Top is the ESA region 20C with August security patch, and bottom is the 20B ESA region with August security patch. Developer [MENTION=3138121]seadersn[/MENTION] has examined both and says they're the same. But the bottom one was released in India, because India is one letter behind.

If you install the 20C, you still get Jio VoLTE, still get the LG India help app -- if you have India SIM card. It installs what's needed, depending on what you have.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
It's the same with Philippine ROM too, everything worked like in Indian ROM but no August security patch OTA. Is there anyway to find the one intended specifically for India only? Which one do you think I should flash?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
You can install "India" ESA 20B, but I already have the ESA 20C in the KDZ threads.

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/development/h930ds-lg-v30-india-h930ds-t3814426

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
This one??

H930DS20c_00_OPEN_ESA_DS_OP_0807.KDZ

I can anytime downgrade and unlock bootloader right?

And do I need patched LGUP ?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Yes that one. Yes you can downgrade it anytime. You need LGUP, but you don't necessarily need dev patched LGUP just to use the upgrade function.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
No update in the last 3 months. LG has officially broken the Google policy.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] suyogmh:
Any update for LG V30+

Is any other variants of LG V30+ or even V30 in other countries have got security updates after August 2018?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sid@developer:
I think V30 Verizon Variant in the US got update..
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Europe just got one yesterday . We posted the KDZ.

Verizon VS996, T-Mobile H932, and open market US998 got updates after August. US998 was in late September. T-Mobile in October.

However, no country/region H930DS has gotten any updates since August.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
Some of the carrier US variants are getting more regular updates. They even recently got an update to improve the always on display.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Just checking and no country/region H930DS around the world (Hong Kong, Australia, Taiwan, etc) has gotten any updates since August 2018. They

all have August security patches with August dates in the file name.

Other V30/V30+ models have gotten updates since then, but not the H930DS.

T-Mobile's recent update for H932 reportedly gave selfie camera some kind of portrait mode.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
What do they have against the H930DS?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I don't know, but I have a theory. First, some information...

If you go to

this site and look at all the various regions' H930DS firmware

, you'll see EAS (India/Indonesia/Philippines), AUS, ARE, GCC were last updated in early August. HKG was mid-August (August 16). Then others like SEA, KAZ, TWN, CIS, 8WN, 9SG were all the same date -- on August 24.

The file name has the date the build was "created", but that doesn't mean when it was RELEASED. They were tested AFTER the build was created, then released. But still ALL the H930DS in the world -- all those regions -- last had updated builds in August.

Except for Hong Kong (HKG), all the various regions seem to be released in two waves (early August, late August).

8WN and TWN (August 24) have EXACTLY the same file size.

CIS and KAZ (August 24) have EXACTLY the same file size.

9SG (August 23) and SEA (August 24) have EXACTLY the same file size.

Same with many of the early August releases -- same EXACT file size for two or more regions, even though different regions. So, some are probably all identical, but just name differently? :rolleyes: (KAZ and CIS are for former Soviet/Russia affiliated countries. 8WN and TWN are both somehow Taiwan connected. You see my point.)

2) I see the same file size similarity for several of the "August 24" regions back on "May 26". But the "early August" regions actually got their previous update "May 30" (except for India which for some reason got separated from the other EAS region countries for that release; unless India users were savvy enough to download EAS KDZ released outside of India).

So, my conclusion is ONE team is devoted to H930DS. In May, they batch built ALL countries/regions on May 26 and May 30. However, for August, they tried to break it up and do early August (4), mid August (1), late August (6). Again, this is build creation date, not actual release date -- but they are roughly tied together. "Release" (partial image OTA, followed by full image KDZ) is usually within 2 or 3 weeks of build creation. Some of the "August 24" builds were actually released in SEPTEMBER.

But why the CHANGE from one large batch release (end of May) for ALL H930DS to different stages (3 stages in August)? Why? Don't know.

Then, something happened in November. There should have been either 2 or 3 waves of build/released throughout November (if they followed the August plan). What happened?

My theory is LG H930DS team may be ditching the "stages" and going back to one batch build week -- since so many are the same image. In doing so, they have totally discounted the "early" August build dates and their timeline is now centered on the "late" August build dates -- and thus they are going back to one large batch release all the same week? This would mean 11 region/country builds were all created the last week of November, are being tested, and will be released soon (partial image OTA, followed by full image KDZ). So, EAS, AUS, ARE, GCC and HKG will all be OVER the 90-day mark. But SEA, KAZ, TWN, CIS, 8WN, 9SG will not.

If another two weeks goes by with no H930DS, then I don't know. :confused:
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] suyogmh:
I have got last update on August 29th which included August Security patch. Also I see almost all variants of 930DS got it before end of august.

So we have 3 months(September, October and November) on since that.

Does this not violate Google's "Android Enterprise Recommended" certification? I believe (someone can confirm) that device must get at least security update once in 3 months as minimum requirement, so any other country variant other model got update later should not extend 3 months period. Exact same device must get update within 3 months.

This will be my first and last LG phone. I hope Pixel 3 Lite is cheaper, in 30-35k range.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
See the three posts above yours for discussion about how no H930DS has gotten security updates in the last 3 months.

I'd rather have headset jack and 1440p than pixel 3.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] suyogmh:
I have read those and that's why asked how it can be still be labelled as "android enterprise recommended"

I said Cheaper Pixel (Called Pixel 3 Lite) which according to rumours will have 3.5mm jack but with FHD display only.

Does Google have any duration (after release of handset) which 90 days security update clause is waived off?

Actually no VoLTE support, comparatively (vs Samsung , Apple on Indian Networks like Jio,Airtel) slower data speeds are also issues which LG is least bothered about. Pixels are also not doing good in these.

So only option is Samsung , upcoming base Galaxy S10 if priced below 50k will be good deal.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Rumors? The 2018 Pixel phones hav been released. ;) Neither has headset jack.

The smaller Pixel has always had 1080p instead of the 1440p QHD all premium phones (Motorola, LG, Samsung, HTC, Sony, etc) have had since 2014. I'm not downgrading.

The official name is Pixel 3 vs Pixel 3 XL.

I was formerly a huge Nexus fanboi, owning Nexus phones and tablet. But ever since the 2013 Nexus 5, Google lost their way. I had to go with the 2014 Motorola Quark (in India was Moto Turbo) and now 2017 LG V30+.

The only good thing about the Pixels are the cameras. After being an early adopter (2012, 2013, 2014) of Qi wireless charging,

Google DROPPED it in 2015 (with idiotic excuses)

-- and now has only added it back in 2018 because Apple did. After making fun of Apple for dropping the headset jack, then Google turned around and did the same.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] suyogmh:
Not sure why you are confusing with current Pixel 3 but I never said Pixel 3 but upcoming rumored Pixel 3 Lite.

http://theindependent.sg/google-to-release-a-more-affordable-version-of-pixel-3/

No OLED display can be deal breaker but FHD is ok for me. Main thing is price, if it is over 35k then big no.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Sorry, you mean THAT rumored Pixel 3 Lite. :p I completely forgot about that rumor, as it doesn't interest me. Snapdragon 6xx? 32GB storage? (and of course no microSD card slot) with 1080p. I thought you were calling the smaller Pixel 3 "Lite", compared to the larger Pixel 3 XL.

IF this phone is real, anybody explain why it says "C" instead of "G" on the back for a Google Pixel ? It's like a bad Chinese knockoff. :rolleyes:

Yeah, supposedly Pixel 3 Lite will even have a headset jack -- which (IF this phone is even real) shows Google again (like with Qi wireless) is admitting they have screwed up in dropping a popular feature? But then Motorola did the same thing -- putting headset jack and HUGE batteries in their budget phones while no headset jack/credit card size batteries in their more expensive "premium" phones. Makes no sense.

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It's very strange. And while it's only the "H930DS" (not the other variants)-- still H930DS covers major countries across Asia/Middle East.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] suyogmh:
32GB storage looks very strange to me, minimum 64GB is kind of normal now for even 10-15k price range now.

Also I hope it is dual SIM, rest of things look ok for me.

BTW, I heard that LG is going to launch V40 in India soon.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ankit360:
Yep. My last lg mobile. This is how lg will die. by its own mistake
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] suyogmh:
Unfortunately Samsung is bringing even more hideous trend - "holes in display".

Man ,do these companies care for what customers want?

BTW No update still for LG V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sid@developer:
Nope... Companies like Apple and Samsung don't care about what customers want...they just design in their own way and want the customers to use the device the way the company designs...

This is not true for OnePlus... That's the reason, they became successful in a short span of time...

LG is like... partially cares... Partially doesn't...LG is between Samsung and Oneplus.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Maybe you're lucky! ;) Recent update is causing the dreaded LG bootloops on LG G7. Luckily, it's just SOFTWARE related, not hardware.

December 5, 2018

LG G7 ThinQ Bootloop issue: official statement update

But maybe that's why no recent update for H930DS! Maybe they caught something similar BEFORE it got released, and they are having to re-work the update?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ankit360:
Yep. I love how meizu 16th / nubia x is build.

But currently i m happy with v30. Wish airtel volte enable on this devive. The reason i want volte so bad because while on hotspot it wont drop connection to 3g if someone call you.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] suyogmh:
Yes, Meizu 16th is very good, refinement of V30+ design without unwanted notches, holes.

Vodafone has added LG Q7, Q stylus in VoLTE compatibility. These are only LG phones with VoLTE(no Jio) in India.

I have followed up with LG support since June related to this VoLTE support issue but they are least bothered.

This is very clear since latest LG G7+ Thinq also does not support VoLTE of any of non Jio operators.

Also I feel most users are not at all bothered about it, whenever I raised this on many Youtube reviews via comments, many users kind of got offended with me for raising such non issue.