yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] matt1313:
This is running really good
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Things have definitely changed! Heck, remember when SafeStrap was all the rage for Sammy's?? Good times for sure :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] elliwigy:
haha good ole safestrap.. i used to love mobile odin..

the setcpu was updated in march but the dev hasnt updated it since despite saying he was lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] JoroBo:
Thanks for this great kernel! I have EX Kernel Manager and enabled the gestures but I don't understand how sweep2sleep works and searching the forum didn't help. Can someone explain where do I have to sweep exactly? It doesn't seem to work for me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
You have to sweep left of right across where the navigation bar is located
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] JoroBo:
Many thanks! I am still getting used to the navigation bar, coming from Oneplus One with hardware buttons ? Would you consider adding double tap to sleep? I believe it would be a great addition.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Will008:
You can use Nova launcher for double tap to sleep.

You can also download an app called "OnePlus gestures", gives u the same gestures u had on the OnePlus and u can customize and add more gestures.

I used to have a OnePlus 6 and now I use both of these on my P2XL and very happy.

Cheers
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Ph0z3:
Does this have Zen v2 in it?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] JoroBo:
Thank you, this app is great! I have been using Nova Launcher on OPO for 4 years but want to give stock launcher some time before I go back to Nova :good:

Cheers!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Nope.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Ph0z3:
Bummer..... O well, still going to use this. Was just curious what all it had.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
I believe a couple other kernels do. At least Zen is on Evira kernel if I remember correctly.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Scottay5150:
RAM Management.

Firstly this kernel kills the stock experience in Bootleggers.

Has the aroma installer been pulled from this kernel?

And is there a way to keep more apps running in the background with the settings? Tell me what to do.

Thanks in advance.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Aroma is still there. However, you can download the express zip through the EXKM app. Not really a way to keep more apps in the background, you could try and set your read ahead higher and see if it helps. I only keep 2-3 in the background personally. But that's me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] No1sy B0y:
Can anybody recommend settings provide a balance between power saving and performance?

I've had it on stock setting since I installed it and have not noticed a change in battery life. In facts, I feel like it drains it faster than before I had this Kernel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] No1sy B0y:
Thank you both. I will try that MOD.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] SoulEviscerator:
For anyone concerned about battery life I can only recommend the app "L Speed" (in Play Store). You can tweak many aspects of your system with regards to performance, battery and system health. It needs root but that shouldn't be a problem in a custom ROM community. :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] dew912:
Hi all,

Any idea why Google pay stopped working? Haven't had a problem since I bought my 2xl at launch...
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
March Android updates are out! :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] JoroBo:
I have the same issue and thought it is because of substratum. Do you use substratum?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] dew912:
Nope, not here
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Cowbell_Guy:
I think it is an issue with the latest Magisk- they have been discussing in their threads
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
Update!!

Latest EXKM adds the ability to flash recovery zips and Magisk modules, twrp, and even Magisk itself. I think the only limitation is you can't flash AROMA installer zips, and I doubt it would be viable to flash an entire ROM, as they are meant to be flashed in recovery.

Control all options on this and other kernels with the latest EX Kernel Manager: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.exkernelmanager

Download:

ElementalX-2.12

Changes:

-March security patches
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] pkgnex:
Thanks, as always, for your great (and fast) work!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] shindiggity:
Link takes you to 2.11

Edit: working now ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] keda:
I think Google play service is getting smarter on detecting unlocked bootloader or modified partitions, somehow....

I'm on Stock ROM + custom kernel with unlocked bootloader, no root or Magisk. Google pay no longer works this week. I wonder if this can be fix with kernel upgrade.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] alvintimothyjr:
I've only had my Pixel for a few days and I am somewhat new to its rooting process. My understanding is that twrp and magisk need to be flashed after flashing a custom ROM. Does EXKM currently eliminate this process?

Thanks
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Sentheb3ast:
What features/boosts does this kernel bring? Also can I use stock with this?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Read the OP, and yes, you can use it with stock or custom roms.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Sentheb3ast:
I don't understand most of it, so does it improve performance or battery life? And what are the sleep gestures?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] sublimaze:
1. I strongly suggest you research the features/terms that you don't understand before messing with those options.

2. This kernel gives you options not available in stock kernel which potentially improve performance and/or battery life. Again, do research to determine which options are best for your needs.

3. I'll make the last question easy for you. Sleep gestures let you swipe or tap the display while phone is asleep to wake it up (in addition to pressing power button).

You've been a xda forum member long enough to know that modding requires effort on your part. Everyone starts out lacking knowledge. But don't let that deter you from learning on your own.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Az Biker:
EX is set up in a way to give you a very stable, better than stock experience, both in performance and battery life (especially with pre-set profiles for each).

To be honest, unless you are wanting to learn how to build kernels yourself, you have way more chance of goofing something up than you do of finding a bit more battery life or performance from flar2's builds (or any cust kernel for that matter).

Wake and sleep gestures are just that; they are gestures that will either wake the device or put it to sleep. Sweep up to wake, double tap to sleep, etc.

Spend the few bucks, get EX Kernel Manager, best $ you'll spend!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] JimSmith94:
Not sure if this is common with this new release, but I have used this kernel for a long time and this is the first time I've had a problem installing it.

I installed the March security update with flash-all after removing "-w", fastbooted the latest twrp.img, installed the latest twrp.zip, installed the new ElementalX.zip and my phone hung on the installing 100% complete screen and never went back to the TWRP screen!

I had to hold the power button to force a reboot. Then I was able to reboot to bootloader, select recovery, and install the newest Magisk.zip. Everything seems to be working fine now, but I thought I should report my issue. Should I try to reinstall or is there anything I should watch out for?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
There was no change to the installer, probably just a glitch with TWRP.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] clothednblack:
It's a glitch for sure, I've had it get stuck at 30% before. Hasn't happened in a while but twrp can derp out at times.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Freak07:
The freezing bug while doing an Aroma install in twrp, is an ancient aroma bug that probably will never get resolved, as aroma is not actively maintained any longer as far as I know :svetius:
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] MrBrady:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] My phone is actually happy with this March update. Not sure what changed to make it stable on my phone. Previously I would get reboots on startup unless I drastically lowered the clock rates on both sets of cores. Now it boots and has zero issues, which is amazing!

(BTW - flashed the March update through EXKM - unsure if that's related. Didn't see options for OC, which I think was why my phone didn't like it previously.)

EDIT: Disregard. After a few manual reboots, started getting random reboots at startup again. :-/
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Az Biker:
Like others are saying, likely just a glitch, or maybe something got fat fingered?

I just updated to March security last night; flashed latest factory img -w, booted into the installed latest TWRP, flashed EX 2.12, flashed latest Magisk, and all is well in 2 XLville.

If nothing else, the 2 XL is the MOST fickle device I have ever encountered, as is the opinion of many others who've dealt with bazillions of diff devices.

If you experience any gremlins or unusual activity that becomes irritating, I'd simply repeat my process above until the freakin' device submits to your will and whim!

So, it's not you, it's your Pixel 2 XL :p
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
You likely installed the express zip, vs downloading the kernel from AFH. That's where you can set the OC during the twrp installation process :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
Update!!

K-Lapse support

K-Lapse is a new color control driver that allows you to schedule night mode, or reduce brightness with optional schedule, or change color values with brightness. Very versatile and full of options. From [MENTION=5913332]tanish2k09[/MENTION], more details: https://xdaforums.com/android/software-hacking/k-lapse-kernel-level-livedisplay-module-t3907031/

Latest EXKM adds K-Lapse support and the ability to flash recovery zips and Magisk modules, twrp, and even Magisk itself. I think the only limitation is you can't flash AROMA installer zips, and I doubt it would be viable to flash an entire ROM, as they are meant to be flashed in recovery.

You need EXKM version 4.05 for K-Lapse support on this device! It is rolling out on the Play Store now...

Flash directly and control all options on this and other kernels with the latest EX Kernel Manager: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.exkernelmanager

Download:

ElementalX-2.14

Changes:

-K-Lapse support
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Br4no:
Hello everyone,

Do you know, how to properly save the zram settings???

E.g. I would like to set zram size to 1024 and have that setting permanent. But after every reboot I have to set the zram size manually again, because it resets back to 512....

Thank you!!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] dew912:
Any updates on Google pay? I know a few others have mentioned it isn't working for them either. Is it working for anyone currently?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Seanzle:
Thank you!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Ph0z3:
Finally got my phone unlocked & TWRP installed, then flashed this... Only options I got during setup was the two minimum processor states...

I'm not rooted, how do I pick my scheduler & the other features?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] seabro01:
You'll need a kernel manager app.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Ph0z3:
I have exkm, but can't really use anything, because I'm not rooted.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Gotta have root bruh if you wanna take advantage of the EXKM app and what you can do with your kernel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Ph0z3:
That sucks... Had full control of everything on my Nexus 6. Just got this new p2xl & things are a lot different over here.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Yeah, unfortunately, it's the way it is. Was the same way on the 6P. No big deal to root though. Unless you have some particular apps that don't work with root.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Ph0z3:
Yeah, got things for work... Can't be rooted..
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Tex99:
With the last ex kernel and ex kernel manager update, is kcal control working for you? I'm trying to put back my profile but the colors remain unchanged. Thank you

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[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Maverick Jester:
I have the same problem.

[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] the Limit RGB option is also missing, and it appears that colour values are capped at 156 (as opposed to the usual 256).
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] bigJbig:
Same problem here.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
I'm fixing it now
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
EXKM 4.06 rolling out now
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Az Biker:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION], I just updated EXKM 4.06

You make my time on Xda so much better!

Reliable, rock solid kernel regularly updated.

Open to suggestions, some implemented.

Something breaks, it's fixed lickity-split!

THANK YOU for all you do, and how you do it!

Your Kernel manager is hands down the best money I've spent in the Play Store.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] keda:
Would like to know about this too.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Maverick Jester:
Doesn't appear to have fixed the issue for me, but I'm using Kirisakura kernel so it may be kernel specific. Gonna flash ElrmentalX and check if it's still a problem.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
Kernel doesn't matter.

What is the issue exactly? Everything works as expected for me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Maverick Jester:
There are three issues:

The multiplier values for RGB are still capped at 156.

Attempting to adjust K-Lapse settings causes the device to lock up, and forces me to perform a hard reset.

Having K-Lapse set to apply at boot seems to cause the phone to randomly lock up and force me to perform a hard reset as well.

So I'm not sure where the issue lies, exactly, and why I wanted to flash ElementalX to see if the issue is specific to the kernel I'm using (i.e, the issue may not be EXKM at all, and simply an issue with the K-Lapse driver implementation in Kirisakura kernel).

EDIT: ignore, still experiencing issues. I'll have to do some more investigation.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Tex99:
About the trouble of set on boot (if you mean after reboot) I wrote a post some weeks ago.

With a color profile or a gesture set on boot, if you reboot your phone and don't keep the screen on after boot, it will freeze and force you to perform an hard reset.

It happens with all kernels and kernel manager for pixel 2xl, at least for me

Btw kcal now works, thank you, but the set on boot doesn't work after reboot

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[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] RE910177:
thank you so much sir!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Maverick Jester:
Interesting, thanks for the feedback. I'll set my colour profile using a service.d script instead.

Oddly, this has only started happening since K-Lapse was introduced, along with the white screen issue you mentioned. Then again, I was using FKM to set the KCAL profile, not EXKM.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
Not sure how #1 is possible. The values are 100 to 256, or 0 to 256 if limit RGB is disabled in the app.

Number 2 and 3 are kernel problems, which are definitely not present in ElementalX
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
I can't reproduce a crash, but the values are not committed with apply on boot (should be easy to fix that)

EDIT: EXKM 4.07 will fix apply on boot
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
Another release, 4.08, should fix any remaining color issues, especially if using a different kernel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] cognitivedissonance:
Since posting this, I've begun keeping my system version up to date right along with the monthly factory image releases. That doesn't resolve my issue, and since my original comment (above) I've never once had EX Kernel Manager successfully download a kernel update. Every single time, I have to go download the kernel manually and flash it in TWRP. It's a bit aggravating that this feature doesn't seem to work for some reason.

Does anyone have any thoughts on what I could do about this?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
I always download it through the app to test, never fails. I wonder if there is some kind of ISP caching issue? Or perhaps an adblocker is interfering? If so, exempt elementalx.org from adblocking.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] shindiggity:
Very weird, I flash kernels all the time with no issues. Never reboots like it's supposed to but flashes fine.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Felosis:
I can confirm I have success flashing both in TWWP and EXKM. :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] JimSmith94:
High brightness mode still only works for me if I open the app first to get root permission. Then it seems to stay on until I manually turn it off. Have you had any luck updating to the latest API yet?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
It's on my (very long) to-do list
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Sam Nakamura:
Love K-lapse actually! Thanks for the new stuff :highfive:

Edit:

I have some issues with pocket mode not at all working, can it be related to this kernel? The proximity sensor is working totally fine regarding test apps, proximity gets registered but eventually gets ignored, hence the device can be unlock even inside the pocket (by both, fp & dt2w)

https://xdaforums.com/pixel-2-xl/help/pocket-mode-proximity-sensor-ignored-t3909529
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
Will you be building an EX variant for Q?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] flar2:
There is a build available in EXKM. Untested though.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] art.montesinos:
Just downloaded. Thanks!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] qwer777:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] What is the path for the kernel parameter that is edited by the slider under Misc -> Vibration in the EXKM app?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
Well, here goes nothing!

Well, its working. Little cluster was pegged at 1900 for a while, now has calmed down after a few minutes.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] billycar11:
just wanted to post my google pay has stopped working too on 2.11 and 2.14 im all stock except for this kernel and unlocked bootloader my safety net all passes in rootchecker pro so now what is google checking to annoy us
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] pkgnex:
Q - Preview-1 Wahoo kernel source dropped today!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
EX 3.0 for Q has been available through EXKM since yesterday.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] pkgnex:
Yeah... but it was just the last Pie kernel (2.14) renamed! Did you look at the source commits? ;)

The reason, of course, is because Google hadn't released the changes when Flar2 updated the defconfig and released v3.

Now he can start actually merging stuff...
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
I didn't know that. I would have thought 3.0 was actually updated for Q.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] pkgnex:
Yeah, I understand that seems implied. And maybe something changed that wasn't documented... although that's not how Flar2 usually works.

I was just wondering how he changed it before Google released the source for Q-preview-1 wahoo kernel, which is why I looked at his git!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Ph0z3:
I really wish installation on this was like the Nexus 6 & could pick all the options with the Aroma installer.

I'm non-root, so I can't pick anything with exkm, or anything else. I'd really like to adjust the scheduler & such..
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
So, if you root you can customise the EX kernel with EXKM.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Ph0z3:
I'm aware. Though 2 apps I use for work don't allow root & I'm not going to chance things with magisk, as I'm not sure it'll completely hide or not.

So I have to stay "stock"
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Maverick Jester:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] I still experience issue #2 mentioned above. I have K-Lapse and KCAL set to apply at boot, and if I leave the phone for long enough that the screen turns off, as soon as the screen turns on, a white haze covers the screen. Does not matter how long the screen was on prior to turning off, it happens.. Only solution is to reboot and effectively leave the screen on.

Oddly, I only experience this issue using EX Kernel. I don't have this issue with other kernels.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Br4no:
Hi [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION],

How is possible to change the size of zram?? I did it via ex kernel manager, but it always reverts back to default.

Thx
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Tex99:
Hi, I noticed this problem: the pixel night mode deactivates the color profile. If I active and then deactivate the night mode the color profile does not return and I have to go to the exkm settings to reactivate it.

Thanks

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[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] pkgnex:
Something is cooking in the 3.00 tree!

If Magisk and EX both get updated for Q this weekend, I may take the plunge on Beta 1...
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Maverick Jester:
That's to be expected. The default night mode changes display colour using the HWC, whereas EXKM via KCAL does this in the kernel.

Default night mode/greyscale has always deactivated the KCAL colour profile, they're solutions that cannot co-exist. A better option would be to set a night time profile using K-Lapse, which works alongside KCAL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
EX 3 is on it's second iteration. There was 3.00 available as early as March 14th, and now there is 3.01 that was available by March 20th or earlier. Both were available for download on the EX KM app.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] pkgnex:
Yeah, that makes sense given the merge dates. I hadn't looked at the commits on that branch for the last several days, so I missed 3.01 until now.

Since I'm not (yet) on Q, I can't see the kernel availability in EXKM, and the Q kernels are not yet on Flar2's AFH.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
Well, now at least you know that the kernel has been rwice updated for Q.