yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siralsmooth:
Io I'm 100% at a loss. I booted twrp, did a backup, checked the box to allow modifcations before I exited, and no matter what steps I have taken, even following what has been posted to a T, restoring stock, ota update, factory reset/cache clear, etc. I'm stuck at the wear24 bootloader. This dumb thing is completely FUBAR!

Anyone have any ideas here as to how to get this thing back to stock at this point? Because nothing I try will work, and I'm ready to chuck it into the trash.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joelphilippage:
Have you tried flashing the SuperSU zip posted earlier? In my experience, there was no going back after flashing the recovery even after trying to restore factory defaults. SuperSU patches the boot so it can boot up.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siralsmooth:
Just flashed it on a whim and got it to finally boot
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bkkzak:
Any luck on this?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
Unfortunately it's not, I still havent figured it out, but it looks like the drivers are there, they just need to be built into the current ROM.

No luck yet.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
Are there any seasoned developers out there able to compile a ROM?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Undergroundstudents:
Piercing through back cover.

I have an idea. In theory if one measured the exact dimensions and points at which the connector is located on the board. Could we not take a hot needle and pierce it through the back 4 times to make an easy access to the data connector.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xim737:
I'm waiting my watch next week. If everybody need a tester of new featured firmware with nfc or new bands (sim-free) - I'm ready!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] genaldar:
Strap Extender

If you don't want to bother replacing the strap, and losing the wifi antenna, but you have big wrists I suggest getting a strapbit extender. I bought the 20mm and it works fine.

https://strapbit.net/
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bakedpotete:
I am unable to install the Android Messaging app. When I check on a browser it says the app is incompatible. any help? do I have to load it with the adb over wifi?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siralsmooth:
I've become a fan of pulse messenger, has a lot of good features, works well in conjunction with the pulse app on the phone.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lifeisfun:
Just open the playstore on your watch and install it there
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bakedpotete:
It's not appearing in the playstore, not in any of the categories, when i search for it by name or just "message/messaging" :confused:

I might try the pulse messaging app since that seems to be my only option
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lifeisfun:
Try to reset the watch
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bakedpotete:
actually tried that multiple times now, also while trying to fix another problem (bluetooth phone audio is unavailable) which I still haven't figured out :eek:
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siralsmooth:
Is this the app you're looking for?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bakedpotete:
Yes! Not sure why it was not coming up on the play store the other day (telegram was the first result unlike your search) but it was there today. Now, I seem to be having a problem where the Message app crashes everytime I open a conversation. edit: after a couple reinstalls and reboots, it seems stable now
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tumist:
Hello. Is there any movement towards Google Pay support?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
Thing is, it would be a catch 22. To enable NFC, the system needs to be modified which would cause SafetyNet to fail. I don't believe Magisk Hide works on Wear.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tumist:
I've seen people using Magisk on LG Watch, so it's possible, i think.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
I just found that. Interesting.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stern.m33:
Supersu

Hey can someone please post the supersu zip. The original link is Dead. Much appreciated!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Undergroundstudents:
I added it as an attachment here
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siralsmooth:
[youtube]bEmKH7ylSXc[/youtube]

Would be nice to see this one come to the Wear 24
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
The Wear24 is listed as a possible port not supported yet. I opened an issue on their GitHub, we'll see what the development team says.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdeets:
Anyone look into porting it to the Wear 24 with the guide?

https://asteroidos.org/wiki/porting-guide/
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobyman7035:
how do root this? where is the link URL tutorial, thx...or its just installing SU apk?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bkkzak:
This thread is the tutorial, try searching it
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
How to install TWRP recovery and achieve root on the WEAR24 watch
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheGr8Poulet:
I got the watch from the exact same place! Combined with a eBay coupon, making it 65$ CAD before tax.

5) Personally, I prefer AW2.12 then AW1.5. I was having issues with Google Fit on AW1.5. In addition, the user interface is better in AW2.12 IMO.

6) I believe if you tried saying "Ok, Google..." it should work.

9) I got no issues with this.

10) IP67 - 6 (Protection from contact with harmful dust), 7 (Protected from immersion in water with a depth of up to 1 meter (or 3.3 feet) for up to 30 mins)

Hope that helps!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prmbasheer:
I guess both of us bought from the same seller on eBay. Now, they have upped the price by CAD10. Even then it will still be a good purchase.

5) I agree. The interface is more eye-candy and fluid mostly. Only negative for me is being forced to use physical button to bring up applications. Also, the noticeable lag when using tilt to wake up.

6) My bad. It wasn't enabled in the watch settings. I got it to work now. It is suggesting me to go out with an umbrella :)

9) It happens with my watch. Even today morning when I picked the watch up, I saw the default face instead of the one I had selected.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] james_richards:
Will this work with no sim

My LG G watch just died after years, I am on art and have a Moto G6, I think it will but before I buy, will this work with no sim just as a smart watch attached to my phone. I just hate to spend $50 and have a useless bracelet.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qkall:
i'm on tmobile and I love using the wear24 - basically everything works through bluetooth sans a few apps which require wifi/hotspot to use (google play music comes to mind... not sure what else).
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prmbasheer:
Most of us here use it without SIM. This is a Verizon exclusive device with a Verizon SIM inside but it is now sold unlocked. So you are free to just pair it with your smartphone and use it like you use any other smartwatch. Just make sure you update the device to AW2.12 and disable the Verizon apps. By just pairing it with your smartphone, you can even control messages and phone calls from your smartwatch, even to the extent you can hear the call through watch speaker.

Hope this helps.

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I have the watch for five days now. Android Wear updated to v2.12. Verizon apps disabled and all the settings tweaked to increase battery efficiency.

Result: The Last recharge was a good 32 hours ago. RightNow battery reads 57%. I am pretty sure I will get another day out of it. So for me, this is easily a charge every 2 days device. I am very happy with that charge cycle. Awesome value for a CAD80 device. But keep in mind that I am not a heavy user. I mostly will fall under moderate user category.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tangojg:
upgrade Wear Os

My watch is now on 2.12 after doing system upgrade...I keep reading about people being on 2.7 or 2.8....Why does my watch say it is up to date?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agentx3r:
12 > 7 or 8
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prmbasheer:
It was an active thread for sometime but suddenly looks stagnated. C'mon guys, let's share best practices and keep this thread going.

I love this watch. I am a light user. I get two days out of one charge. Everything works perfectly. You can even control calls, but can't take calls through the watch because you can only hear the other end. Your voice is not captured by the watch's microphone. I have it synced with my LG G6 and I am able to even control my phone camera from the watch. I can view and capture pics using the watch.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
Stagnation occurred because no one has created a custom ROM for it that enables NFC. I'm not even sure it's possible. Root has been achieved, but it's not very easy to connect it to USB. It's just a watch, there's not much else to talk about.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Douglaa9630:
And we can't install a custom is wirelessly without having to open the watch?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
No.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prmbasheer:
No, you cannot. Rooting the device and installing custom recovery involves opening the back of the watch. But this watch doesn't have any custom ROMs. So it isn't worth opening up the watch. But as it is, the watch performs well. I personally don't see any reason to root it or install a custom ROM.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] QkTreasures:
Yep sometimes it falls under if it's not broke don't fix it. I remember I had a tablet that I just couldn't leave well enough alone & ended up bricking it LoL [emoji3]
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnuke:
Could you reupload those files or point me to where they are and send me a link please (the link is dead)? I need the files to unbrick my watch.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nenitosoyyo:
Very excited, ordered the watch on ebay too with a promo code, got it for $75. Seeing what you use the watch for is what I was looking for, and that you have the same phone as me and everything is working perfectly eases my mind. I was a little worried I was going to have trouble using it with my phone and in Canada. One question, I have come to realize that its wireless charge, and just recently purchased a qi charger for my phone(had the phone for over a year and did not know I had this feature, till last month at IKEA I seen those wireless charges in the dining area and gave it a go, I was shocked it worked XD). Would the pad charge the watch fine, or do I need some special type of wireless charger that works for watches?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prmbasheer:
It is a great smartwatch for the price and it works flawlessly in sync with my Fido networked LG G6. I am glad that you finally figured that LG G6 has wireless charging :) From your question, I am assuming that you still haven't received your watch. The watch comes with its own wireless charger and is compatible only with that as far as I know. The bundled charger works well and charges in quick time. No worries there. Good luck with your watch. Do let know if you have any further questions when start using it.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nenitosoyyo:
I am glad I figured it out too haha, and thanks for answering my question, was worried after reading here that there was no outer port(which I am aware of after reading thread that there is none) and only wireless charge. I didn't even read the description when I purchased it, just saw android wear and the price and hit the buy button without any hesitation :silly: lol. pretty sure I'll be back with more questions once I get my hands on it. Thanks again :)
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
There is no outer port. As he said, it comes with it's own wireless charger.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Douglaa9630:
i have been using this since June of this year and the experience with it has been really good.

answering messages in my wrist is really convenient than taking out my phone from my pocket.

also controlling and playing music from the watch is really cool.

but i have a few questions that if you guys could answer.

1) its possible to have two keyboard languages in a the watch?

2)any luck having the watch mic working for calls? and also for google assistant because it dosent detect OK GOOGLE on mine.

3)are there any compromises if i replace the watch bands, just for curiosity:o

4)any rom development for the watch?

5) well this one is if you are a TMO customer: is digits possible on the watch in WiFi?

6) how to remove the sim icon? well we dont need it for most of us because we dont have verizon or do not want to have a relationship with them

7) is it possible to activate watch in a network that isnt Verizon, for say Telus?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prmbasheer:
1) I am almost sure it is possible. Go to Personalization>Input Methods and add a keyboard.

2)As far as I know, there is no workaround to make the mic work for calls. Google Assistant works fine for me. The mic picks up the commands.

3)Don't try to replace the wristbands. The band houses wifi and Bluetooth sensors.

4)No. In my opinion, it doesn't need one.

5)I am using Fido :)

6) Go to system apps settings and try disabling the Verizon, Message+ and Wear24 apps.

7) No, it is not possible.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siralsmooth:
If you haven't already, I did it on both of my units, open the back cover and old pull the damn SIM card out. Battery life will be fantastic because the watch won't be looking for cellular. Your can also just turn off cellular in settings, but if it goes dead or reboots, it's back on. Thus, pull SIM and throw in trash.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pyoungworth:
How did you disable messages+ and install standard messaging app. I don't have an option to disable it under system apps and even though messages is installed I can't select it from the apps (it is listed in settings though)
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerflash:
You can use ADB to do this.

ADB shell pm hide is the command look it up
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sins07:
On Android Wear 2.0, those apps can be disabled in the application manager. No need for ADB commands. On 1.5, you will have to use the pm uninstall -k
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lifeisfun:
Go all the way down in the Settings/app list and select system apps again , you'll find it in the huge list there :)
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crackass:
Okay let me get this straight because I might buy this watch and you seem to be able to get stuff working. I’ve read so many things and so many people say different things. I don’t have Verizon Service like most. With Android Wear 2.0 (the newest update), can you...

1. Make phone calls using the Bluetooth. People say microphone doesn’t work for calls. Also can you say “OK Google call John” and not have to fiddle with anything and start talking?

2. Can you say OK Google and text someone. I read somewhere that the google assistant would try to send it over cellular and fail and there was no option to change it to default to send through the phone.

3. Do I have to use Verizon Messages?

4. Anything else I shoulda know that may be annoying?

Thanks for the help. Hopefully you or someone can reply ASAP because there is currently a coupon for eBay Canada I can use to buy this watch but it expires tomorrow.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geminihc:
just got this myself and it seems updating it to android wear 2.0 causes some microphone issues as someone else posted (so it's not that my watch is weird or anything).

OK google works fine, but other mic functions dontwork
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawndak:
Mine updated to 2.0 right after I connected to wifi. Then a day later I checked the version and it had updated to Android Wear 2.7! Seems like it is indeed still getting updated!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkuligowski:
I don't quite understand this. Mine does not have a disable button for the Verizon message application. Just the force stop, permissions, advanced, etc... Like other system apps the only option is to remove upgrades where the disable button would be.

Update - nevermind figured it out
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lifeisfun:
You welcome :good:
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] probstc:
1. No. The crappy speakers allow you to hear the call, but the microphone does not pick up any sound.

2. Yes and Yes. "OK Google" works quite nicely once you enable it on the watch and as long as you install a message app (I installed Android messenger) things work very well.

3. No. I have disabled all the Verizon bloatware and no longer see it in the app tray on the watch.

4. Yes. While the rose gold watch case is very nice, the pinkish watch bands are hideous - Get any other color! As a Canadian I will probably never use the LTE functionality and I am just getting the nerve to perform surgery on my 2-week Wear24 to replace the bands, hopefully even preserving the LTE antenna.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PesSarmiento:
So let me know if you succeed changing the band. I will follow your steps to change mine. I don't care about LTE so I'm looking as well to do the same.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] probstc:
I will be following this thread

I have had my Wear24 for about a week and let's say that I feel for all those who paid full price for this watch. Not that it is a bad Android Wear smartwatch, but it is pretty "meh" for it's original price of $350 USD. Based on my experience and trying to respond to some of the previous comments:

What works:

- Yes, you can disable all the Verizon bloatware preinstalled. Super easy: You go to the system settings under apps, find the offending app and disable it - It is now no longer on your app list! :good:

- Yes, you can install a different message app (I select Android messenger) and it works very well. :good:

- Once I disabled cellular service, the watch get very decent life, approaching 2 days with my use (light-moderate). :good:

- I am able to use the dialer to dial out, and while the speaker works the microphone does not (due to the fact that the Bluetooth pair on your phone treats the smartwatch as a Bluetooth speaker. If someone can let me know if this can be changed I would be grateful. :D

My next challenges:

- Get Android Pay or any other "Pay" app installed so I can take advantage of the NFC functionality. :fingers-crossed:

- Decide whether I can live with the hideous watch bands on my rose gold Wear24 (I love the casing though), and if not, perform surgery so that I can replace the bands. I am tempted to wait after hearing that 1) the SIM card can be replaced and 2) there might be the possibility to hack the OS to permit extra cellular reception. :confused:

All in all, for the $80 USD I paid, a decent purchase, especially now that my venerable Moto 360 is on the verge of expiring.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pyoungworth:
I have disabled messages+ and installed Android message but for some reason it won't work. I installed a different sms messaging app but not sure why but the normal Android messages doesn't work. The app loads but I can't receive messages or send messages through it. I have uninstalled the app and reinstalled but still doesn't work. Any ideas?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mobadr:
This is very interesting. Could you please explain more? How do you know that the SIM is replaceable? Are they not using an eSIM IC? Did you see any photos of the watch taken apart?

I have ordered one of these because of the price, it's my first Android Wear watch, and we don't have the LG Urbane 2 in the UK either which would have been my other choice. I'd love to have the LTE and NFC working, and I'm kinda willing to take it apart if there's any chance it'll work.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sins07:
i've taken it apart and there is literally a modular sim slot where the sim can be removed. it is not a stripped down eSIM, it is a regular fully formed nano sim
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richardyiu:
Do you mind take some pictures? I am curious how does the watch's interior look like
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jackson1983:
Interested to get 1 as well but really considering as it seems it's quite difficult to get the straps replace. Anyone succeeded in doing it?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mobadr:
Awesome! Mine arrived yesterday, when I find the time I'll open it up and post some pics.

Regards,

Mo
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mobadr:
How did you open this? I got as far as removing the straps and the four screws on the back but nothing further. My attempts to remove the back only resulted in a lot of scratches along the edge. :(

Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards,

Mo
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jizzay1:
What's your build number? (settings, about)
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
You don't need to remove the SIM. All you have to do is disable it via SIM Info (system app) and factory reset.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darren1:
I used adb to stop airplane mode turning off Bluetooth or Wifi, and now keep the watch in airplane mode. Airplane mode stays activated on reboot and stops any drain from the sim card. The commands I used were.

adb shell

settings put global airplane_mode_radios cell,nfc,wimax

If you want to return things back you can use

adb shell

settings delete global airplane_mode_radios
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prmbasheer:
I have turned off cellular in settings. And yes, it will be on once the device reboots. But I can handle that. It takes a few seconds to switch it off again. Is it easy and safe? Opening back cover and getting rid of SIM? Can you explain further how you did it?

Also, what are the apps in system apps settings have you disabled? I have disabled My Verizon and Message+. Are there any other Verizon specific apps that could be disabled to save battery and make the device look clean off Verizon apps.

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How do you use adb shell? Also, what purpose does enabling aeroplane mode serve? Will it not affect functions of the watch? Can you be more detailed about what you did and how it helps? I don't get it.

Thanks.

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There is no option to disable SIM Info in system apps. The disable option is greyed out. Any details?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darren1:
Here's a link explaining how to use adb on your watch over wifi.

https://xdaforums.com/android-wear/development/guide-how-to-connect-adb-wifi-t3368602

You won't lose any functions using my method because the adb command allows Bluetooth and Wifi to stay on in Airplane mode. This means only the Sim card and the none functioning NFC chip are placed into Airplane mode, saving battery life.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siralsmooth:
Small tri wing screwdriver, and either a micro flathead or a hairdryer/heatgun with a suction cup and a guitar pick or micro flathead. Literally takes me 2-3 min Topps to pull the back. Worth mentioning, if you plan on rooting, as I also did on one of my units, you'll need to remove the back cover to access the USB/dubug pins. Really depends on just what your plans are. As for disabled apps, almost anything factory that I could I did. I usually see 2 days of battery, and a day/day and a half with always on and a minimalistic watch face.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
No, open SIM Info and disable the SIM, not the app itself. Again, it's best to factory reset after.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chupacabra117:
Hi, Can someone please measure the absolute length of this watch? From strap mounting pin to pin would be great. Thanks.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lwang9:
Disable the cellular and it would be a great watch.