yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] kewlzter:
Yes

Magisk and all its modules work fine. Adaway has Root privilege along with other apps, and works fine.

Only issue is Magisk crashes upon opening and I have to open it two or three times. This doesn't hamper root privlage only opening the interface.

I've experienced this with all variations of install including with F2FS loopback, Dm-verity, or coded, installed.

Only Two steps? hmm let's see:

From a working Oreo install.

1: Reboot into Bootloader

2: ADB Flash TWRP

3: Start Recovery (TWRP)

4: enter echo commands in terminal *

5: Flash Magisk

6: reboot.

Yeah I can honestly see your problem, you are only doing TWO out of SIX steps. lol

Edit: *the echo Terminal commands are:

echo KEEPVERITY=true>>/data/.magisk

echo KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true>>/data/.magisk
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] kgian2007:
has anyone successfully root with oreo firmware?when i try to root through TWRP with Magisk 16.4 i get bootloop with unlock boot-loader warning screen and i have to re-flash everything from beginning
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] huatz84:
I've just gone back to stock oreo from lineageOS. After flashing oreo fastboot ROM,I flashed TWRP directly,formatting my data and restoring my EFS backup. My phone can boot but If I reboot the phone,It goes back to fastboot screen and I have to press start to boot to the phone. It works fine after that until I reboot the phone then it goes back to fastboot screen and I need to choose start to boot it properly. I still leave my phone bootloader unlocked coz I want to go back to lineage once it has lesser bugs. What should I do to skip those fastboot screen every time I reboot my phone?
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Johann0109:
Yes, I've rooted stock oreo successfully, you have to execute some commands from terminal emulator
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] ihateverizon1:
.

i am having the same issue as the guy above you. How did you do it exactly?

---------- Post added at 03:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:21 AM ----------

ok i figured it out sort of. it was what that other guy said here:

From a working Oreo install.

1: Reboot into Bootloader

2: ADB Flash TWRP

3: Start Recovery (TWRP)

4: enter echo commands in terminal *

5: Flash Magisk

6: reboot.

Yeah I can honestly see your problem, you are only doing TWO out of SIX steps. lol

Edit: *the echo Terminal commands are:

echo KEEPVERITY=true>>/data/.magisk

echo KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true>>/data/.magisk

so do that order. I did the terminal first and i also went throught the phone sign up. So it should work now. good luck
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] kc7gr:
Can I use SuperSU instead...?

Good day,

The phone: Z2 Play, XT1710-06, dual SIM.

The build: Android Ver. 7.1.1, Build number NPSS26-118-19-1-6.

I've unlocked the bootloader successfully, and am ready to install TWRP and a root package. My question: Can I use SuperSU instead of Magisk? All the rooting references I've come across so far point to Magisk, and I was wondering if there's some operational reason I would need to select it over SuperSU.

Thanks much.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] prathyushmr:
its created a boot loop after insralling twrp ,not sure how to recover from this

its created a boot loop after insralling twrp ,not sure how to recover from this
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mrphil101:
so it looks like more than two lines/steps, as in op, to get twrp and root. Pretty significant difference actually. Maybe the op should be updated to keep people from doing something that obviously doesn't achieve much of anything except problems and anxiety.

edit I got phone a couple of days ago, and was waiting/hoping to get O before i installed twrp and root. there were 6 or 7 consecutive security and a radio updates when I first cranked er up, but no big O yet. My beloved Nexus 6 is a fubar, i couldn't afford a high end phone so settled on this mid-range. Unfortunately development on mid-range isn't as quick as on the high-end units. All the confusion of doing it this way and that way is why I decided to hold off.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Junior Passos:
TWRP updated to version 3.2.2-0.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Mark2014:
Tkx.

Is it 32b?
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Junior Passos:
Yes.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] cuciu70:
I'm on Oreo roms! I installed the twrp 3.2.2.0 via adb! I state that I read all the posts of this discussion ? so I ask: if I rename the twrp in recovery.img and the same? once in twrp do I have to do a complete data format? ie going to the voice clean, format data, write yes? I have already tried several times to put the twrp 3.2.2.0 through adb! I also did a nandroid backup of the entire ROM on the internal memory! when I try to restore this backup, I get an error message? I did not think it was so complicated to install the twrp and root on this phone ?
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] kewlzter:
No you don't need to wipe Data.

I think you are having problems getting TWRP to stay installed? I normally solve this by installing Magisk, however.

Try ADB: fastboot boot "TWRP"

Then from inside TWRP, install TWRP. (changing listing button from zip to img) .

If that doesn't work, try installing Magisk following the instructions for Magisk including echo command lines.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] cuciu70:
I thank you for your reply?

but I'm still perplexed?

I installed Oreo through the developer's guide! thanks also to htcdevil?

it's not the first time I install twrp via fastboot! I just want to have the twrp that allows me to backup any ROM for this device!

I also saw the video guide of junior passos on YouTube, and they are the same operations I did. I would like to have the permanent twrp for this phone! root (Magik) is a secondary option anyway! one decides whether or not to root!

Magik is essential on this phone to have the fixed twrp regardless of the rom that you use ???
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] kewlzter:
TWRP that backs up any Rom? not possible yet. Some Roms are 64bit (Custom LOS Roms) , and not compatible with 32bit (stock) TWRP, and vise versa.

As for permanent flashing.

In my experience, You gotta install Magisk, or else TWRP disappears after reboot. Apparently, some people don't have this issue, I did/do.

Make sure you follow the Unique install instructions for Magisk.

Good Luck.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] MnemonicSyntax:
I'm having the same issues as above. I've download Magisk but it doesn't show up in TWRP and shows my storage at zero kb across the board.

Ideas? Much appreciated!
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] kewlzter:
in my experience you'll need to ADB flash stock, it will remake your partitions. Allow device to boot to welcome screen.

Then install TWRP, and Magisk, (remember to enter terminal commands for Magisk)
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] MnemonicSyntax:
Okay, so I've done this. Reinstalled my ROM with fastboot and it encrypted my phone. I got to the welcome screen, went back to the bootloader and installed TWRP. But how do I get Magisk on there? I can't download it, I can't seem to mount my drive so I can install it. It requires a password.

This is confusing as hell.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] kewlzter:
try rebooting TWRP. (reboot-recovery) it should decrypt on its own.

when it asks for password, normally a reboot will do the trick, unless you entered a password during encryption, then just enter that password.

Copy from SD card?

if not format data,, copy Magisk via PC/USB,.

then install Magisk.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] MnemonicSyntax:
I appreciate your help and patience here.

Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm not getting it. I've done all this, except I cannot get Magisk to my phone from my PC via USB. Am I missing something in TWRP?

I've gone to mount USB OTG but it doesn't select.

Gah.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] kewlzter:
wipe-> format data.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] cuciu70:
good morning gentlemen. I have problems again in putting the twrp on the rom oreo 8.0 motorola with patch 1 April 2018. I have not yet figured out if on this rom, it works better the 3.2.2.0 32 bit or the other 64 bit! or enterambe.

these are the steps I've done:

from rom with recovery stock, phone in fastboot and twrp flash!

restart in twrp via volume keys!

at this point do I have to do a data format from the clean screen?

I mean with the typing of the item yes !!

I did not do it!

from terminal I typed the 2 strings to flash magisk!

from external sd I flashato magisk 16.0

flash ok!

restart!

the screen appears with the phone unlocked and restarted in 5 seconds!

vibration!

the phone does not restart !!

stays still on the 5 seconds screen etc ....

I successfully installed the various toxicos and r. remix with 64-bit twrp.

I do not understand why the procedure is not successful on this Roma.

I apologize for long text, but this situation is a little paradoxical
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Junior Passos:
Stock Oreo rom needs backup original boot and system partitions with TWRP and restore these before install Magisk.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] cuciu70:
sorry if I insist, but this passage is not clear to me! after installing the twrp via commands in fastboot the twrp is started with the volume and power buttons from the phone, what operations should I perform from twrp ?? I prefer to go for a beginner but I want to understand the steps I have to do!

ok brother! it worked.

I still inserted the 2 command strings from the terminal in twrp!

then I installed magisk.

I thank you so much for your help
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Junior Passos:
1- Install TWRP from this topic

2- In TWRP go to Backup > Mark boot and system > Swipe to backup

3- After go to Restore > boot and system > Swipe to restore

4- Flash zip Magisk (17.1 or 17.2)

5- Reboot

Simple.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] cuciu70:
one last question and then proceed! before the magisk flash, should the 2 command strings be inserted via the terminal in the advanced section? I saw a video on YouTube where a guy even installs the file no truth after magisk flash!
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] stoff_sa:
ayuda con twrp

Alguien sabe como desencriptar TWRP, ya que pide la contraseña y a la hora de ingresarla, no me la acepta, no me puede montar la participio y la memoria me aparece en (0 MG) cambie el formato de la cache y data y lo regrese al original, así, si me lee la partición, pero al instalar firmware stock en oreo con parce de junio, me vuelve a pasar lo mismo y tengo que iniciar nuevamente montan do TWRP y luego lo borra y nuevamente el bucle
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Junior Passos:
No.

Do exactly as I said earlier, you don't need anything else.

Need Format Data in TWRP. Backup your files before Wipe.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] blast1987:
I am getting ERROR 255 trying to flash ROMs with this recovery, is that normal?
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] chalofito:
Please [MENTION=3813670]Junior Passos[/MENTION] update the twrp to work on rom x64 (I know it is not yours) and hopefully you will create a stock rom with all the mods you have created would be great
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Junior Passos:
Feel free to do this.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] zaq21wsx:
what to do when it's stuck on boot logo?

after this bootsplash shows and nothing happens

I'm just booting twrp from fastboot, without flashing

that's my recovery.log: https://paste.tinyw.in/index.php/view/62915220
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sekk:
Dude, idk if it's the android version, but when i had a moto g2(2014), booting into the twrp worked fine, but with my last device(moto z play 2016) it didn't. I guess it won't work with our device too.

If I'm wrong please someone tell me what to do
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] zaq21wsx:
well, I don't know either what's wrong this time, few months ago I managed to boot twrp and install magisk, but this time I can't
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sekk:
Lol it's quite weird... I wasn't able to manage to boot twrp on my z play
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] wanb1i:
Will this work on the Moto z3 (XT1929-17)?
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mariombn:
I installed the last version that came out today. And I no longer find the option to enable the virtual command buttons. Was that removed or moved?
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] creeperlwd:
Could you provide the source?
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] joel-0602:
TWRP LOST

I did the TWRP flash but did not do the Wipe Data. And Recovery was replaced by Stock. Was that expected? Is Data Wipe mandatory?
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] kewlzter:
I find it necessary to install Magisk, to get TWRP to stick. Try it.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] pizza_pablo:
I wouldn't think so, but that's ok, since there is an official version of TWRP, for the Z3 Play at twrp.me
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sekk:
For z3p is this wipe needed?
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] pizza_pablo:
I would not use this version for Z3 play.
[Moto Z2 Play  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] The Analog Kid:
Anyone has experience about up to which Oreo security patch is this working? I have June 1, 2018 (OPSS27.76-12-25-3) download pending just in case it's not supported. Also, after reading the whole thread, I ended up putting together the following procedure (for Oreo) in accordance with all the experiences, suggestions and steps required (those from [MENTION=3813670]Junior Passos[/MENTION] included) I found spreaded all over this 18 page thread (as well as a few other places and 'tutorials'). I'm almost ready to do this myself, but If someone thinks this is not entirely accurate and have something significant to add or dismiss, please let us know:

Steps for stock, encrypted Z2 Play Oreo install:

1. Factory reset

2. Wait for 'Welcome' screen

3. Shutdown device

4. Reboot into Bootloader

5. ADB Flash twrp-3.2.3-0-albus.img

6. Boot (start) Recovery TWRP

7. Wipe (format) data partition

8. Backup stock System and Boot partitions

9. Restore same System and Boot partitions

10. Enter echo commands in TWRP terminal (required for Magisk);

echo KEEPVERITY=true>>/data/.magisk

echo KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true>>/data/.magisk

11. Flash latest Magisk.zip (for root and preserve TWRP)

12. Reboot system
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] thangluong:
Edit: You can follow the solution of [MENTION=4899305]ashyx[/MENTION] through the following link to fix the problem can not flash twrp or boot via Odin. I think it will work ;)

Link: https://xdaforums.com/samsung-a-ser...g-sm-a520f-2017-kernel-source-t3557622/page31

Hello everyone,

After I updated the latest firmware, I was unable to flash BOOT or TWRP via Odin. It just returned the result that ONLY OFFICIAL BINARIES ARE ALLOWED TO BE FLASHED (RECOVERY / BOOT). I think samsung locked the bootloader. Today, I have found a way to fix this problem because knox 0x1 but can not root is not pleasant at all!

I only tested on my A520F, not tested on any other device. I am not responsible for any errors on your device.

1. Go to http://updato.com and download 2 firmware updates with your CSC.

+ Latest firmware 7.0 (November security).

+ Latest firmware 6.0 (MM).

2. Backup your important data :)

3. Reboot to download mode.

4. Add AP, CP, CSC of firmware 7.0 (November security) to the corresponding slot in Odin.

5. Add BL file of lastest firmware 6.0 (MM) to BL slot in Odin.

6. Start and wait a moment.

7. Setup and after that, you can flash TWRP or BOOT via Odin without bootloader errors.

Enjoy!

Sorry for my english...
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
Original info from this thread maybe? :rolleyes:

https://xdaforums.com/samsung-a-ser...g-sm-a520f-2017-kernel-source-t3557622/page31

.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] thangluong:
Hi ahyx, i searched google about not being able to flash twrp or boot after security update in November and know the information is that maybe samsung has locked the bootloader. So, I just tried replacing the BL file of the old firmware that I saved on my laptop and it worked. I do not notice that you have found the solution first. Sorry for it as an act of plagiarism. I will link to your topic as a good faith ;) (sorry for my english)
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] caiquess95:
Oh man, thank you very much !! helped me here too! I had my a5 17 with this 'softbrick' but thank God I was able to install twrp, and so doing root haha I just can not downgrade to the MM.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] kobejor:
this one are 100% work?

i need to download lates MM version and lates Nougat version? then i flash only BL of MM and CP,CSC and AP of nougat version? tia
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] caiquess95:
Vou need to download the latest Nougat 7.0 firmware (A520FXXU2BQK4) and fw plus MarshMallow 6.0.1 (A520FXXU2AQG4).

I, as a Brazilian, downloaded the fw of Brazil.

And then in AP, CP and CSC you put the respective AP, CP and CSC files of the Nougat rom

and in BL the Marshmallow rom file.

It works, man!

At first I had some problems, the smart was out of system because before finishing the process I got some errors (old usb port, bad contact, etc.). Try to keep all the smart USB drivers on your PC, turn on the debug and also the OEM mode and restore your a5. Today I have been able to downgrade and I am using the stock rom 6.0.1
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] mariusra102:
When i try to flash it says: SW REV CHECK FAIL DEVICE 2 BINARY 1
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] caiquess95:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/8173e...911830_QB14224310_REV00_user_low_ship.tar.md5

BL MM (6.0.1) - From ZTO Brazil
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] GenisonPedro:
I'm also Brazilian, and it worked for me! Thank you!
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] jackjt3:
It turned out people were stuck with my A7 2017 using the rom of India nougat, I could not install nor the recovery much less to do the root, with your help here I got I'm from Brazil, I just installed via odin the file BL zto android 6, I entered the download mode and installed recovery and did the root, now only joy.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Jamirorj:
Download ROM quickly in Android Duniya site.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] caiquess95:
same problem hahaha, now it's root after the December patch
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] RubenDGuerreroG:
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I try this with the Android 6.0.1 BL but I recived the next error: SV REV. CHECK FAIL. DEVICE: 3. BINARY: 1

please help me.. my Phone is A5 2017 (SM-A520F)
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
OK two things.

1. You can't have downloaded the boot image specified as it's a rev. 2 binary not 1.

2. Your device has been updated to rev. 3, so you're probably out of luck for downgrading.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Jamirorj:
Same problem here... :(

I can't root anymore
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] lennV:
I just bought the A520F/DS (Malaysia) which still has MM 6.0.1. Can I use the procedure - Flash latest Nougat (Rev. 3 or later) in AP, CP, CSC) leaving BL blank - then do root? (Would I be correct to assume the bootloader will be unaltered, i.e. still be MM 6.0.1?) Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] corsicanu:
Just dropping by to leave some info, I successfully flashed TWRP on my single sim A520F with December bootloader updated to january after porting 7.1.1, and another one, same single sim, with January bootloader. Although, i have a friend with Duos that can't flash anything too since november patch.

So i think this issue is more like a bug, i don't see why samsung would lock only duos devices and not single too. N8 issue is actually the dissappearing oem unlock toggle, csc related. Some countries have it, some countries don't. But in our situation, this is more like a frp lock stuck on, no matter why oem toggle says. I surely hope i am right and future updates will bring duos users the freedom back.

Regards

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[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] waltermsalomon:
Has anyone tried updating to January Security Patch using the same trick? Say, Odin combination of rev 2 BL (from MM) + rev 4 January nougat update (AP+CP+CSC) and had their phones rooted after flashing?

Update: Done using this trick and had my device rooted successfully.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Alroid:
[MENTION=4899305]ashyx[/MENTION]

Hi

Is it possible to skip updating bootloader when flashing, to avoid rooting problems?

e.g. Can we update to android O with an unlocked bootloader of Android N or MM?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
I suggest updating with Flashfire as it won't update the bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] lennV:
I asked a similar question and received no response. I'm not sure if the answer you received about using flashfire answered your question because flashfire requires root. If I understand your question correctly, the rooting problems you want to avoid include tripping knox.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Alroid:
Actually my question was about possibility of using newer ROMs with old bootloaders and you are right, it remained not answered.

Because it seems that new bootloaders are locked and rooting would be impossible with them.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
No it didn't, I advised you to update with Flashfire. :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] Andriano24:
(sorry I'm a noob), but where is the use of Unlocking your bootloafer?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] catdoggy:
*deleted*
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] xDreDz:
Can you upload your BL? It takes me several hours just to download a full rom
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] kalilou23000:
when i try to flash it says

that :

sw rev check fail fused 4 binary 2

please help me i want root my device
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] beccarmt:
Did anyone find a way to bypass this? I bought my A5 recently and it already came with a "level 4" bootloader. Really hate not being able to root my phone :/
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
You can root it, you just need to follow the RMM bypass instructions.
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] beccarmt:
Can you send me a link to those instructions? I tryed searching here but i could only find the "wait 7 days with the device turned on" and the "reboot when in download mode confirmation screen and then boot in download mode again", unfortunately neither worked for me here
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
See this thread.

https://xdaforums.com/samsung-a-series-2017/help/rmm-stateprenormal-t3741319
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] beccarmt:
Ok so i need to flash my phone with the stock rom again and then wait for the 7 days?
[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D] ashyx:
It depends if you are already RMM STATE :Prenormal?