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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shri080:
Hey guys,

Read through some of the few comments and reviews, but obviously won't be possible to go through all the 90 pages. So, need your help.

A little background, I get bored of phones quite often so I keep changing phones every now and then. The last phone I had was the Note 8 which I absolutely loved. After 11 months of extensive using, I had to get bored of it and I made a brave choice of buying the Vivo NEX ( If it wasn't for the NEX, I wouldn't have bought a Vivo phone even in the wildest of my dreams).

I love the NEX. Especially its design and battery life. After using it for the last 2 months, it feels like every other phone is outdated especially with the top chin having all those sensors and front cameras. NEX truly is futuristic in terms of design and the full view display is a joy to use. But the story doesn't end there, as I have been using only Samsung phones for the last 3 years, the biggest thing I am missing on the NEX is the crazy display my note 8 has. Well, I had kept Note 8 for almost a week along with the NEX to make the right choice. Though I did an extensive comparison and finally decided to sell the Note 8 and keep just the NEX, now I have again started missing that super crisp and supersaturated display. I am super particular about displays. So, now I obviously don't want to go back to the Note 8 and I find Note 9 ugly, with that thicker chin and boxy design. Unfortunately, the V40 has that bluddy ugly notch, so no way I will be buying that either.

Long story short, now I am thinking of picking up a phone with a quad HD display and the only option I have is the LG V30+ here in India. I will be buying it as my secondary phone along with my NEX. So, I wanted to know few things from you guys. I am planning to pick up an used one from OLX. Here are my questions

1) Are there any major concerns as far as the display and the battery life is concerned? I have seen the phone in person and I liked the display a lot, though not as much as my Note 8.

2) I am buying a 3 months old phone for 22,000. Do you guys think that's a good deal? Or should I negotiate more?

3) And how has your overall experience been with the phone in general?

My buying decision will be majorly dependent on your suggestions. Thanks in advance for all your time and effort to share your experiences!!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
Let me break it down for you.

1) The display is great but you will notice some banding in certain shades of grey when the display is on low brightness, some people will claim they don't have this issue but it is present on all v30's, it's just that some don't notice it and those who do notice, get used to it over a period of time.

2) There is no good tempered glass in India for this device, so your options are to go with a film type screen protector or get a UV glue tempered glass ordered from China.

3) battery life is amazing, don't be fooled by the 3300 mAh capacity. This phone manages power like a beast and I usually get an average of 7hrs SOT on a full charge. In comparison my old Redmi Note 3 with a 4000mah battery just gave me a little under 5hrs at its best.

4) Software support from LG is doubtful. We'll get only upto Android P update and that may probably be out when Android Q would be announced. Custom ROM support is also not great.

It's an amazing phone and for 22k you will not find anything even close to it at that price so I'd say go for it. If money is not a concern then go for the Galaxy Note 9 which currently has the best display out there.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shri080:
Thanks a lot for that information :) Really appreciate it!!

Well, I wanted to buy the Note 9 but I didn't like the design. It's very boxy and the bezels are thicker than Note 8 which was the biggest turn off for me.

So, are there proper screen guards at least? I am not a fan of tempered glass. I rather prefer using a good screen guard. And do we have good cases for it? Because for my NEX there are hardly any cases?

And how bad is the screen banding? And how often does that bother the viewing experience? Is it only during some shots with grey in the frame or is it all through? And I don't remember how bad that viewing angle tint change was.

And by any chance have you compared it to the NEX? In terms of display especially. Thanks again for all the info :)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
You'll notice the banding if you're under 30% brightness while watching darker movies like for example DC movies. Cases and skins are easily available and you can get the regular PET film screen protectors easily as well but that won't protect it from drops so I'd recommend a case with a big enough lip. I use this case, it's slim yet very protective.

https://www.amazon.in/dp/B07F6274GY/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_bKdUBb485DW56

I haven't compared it to the NEX but I'm sure the LG display is better in terms of color saturation and resolution. I wanted to buy the NEX as well as I also was avoiding any phone with a notch but I got a deal I couldn't resist for the v30, I got 12k off in exchange for my 2 year old Redmi note 3 on Amazon which made the final price only 23k.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shri080:
That's an awesome deal you got :) Even i got an amazing deal on my NEX. Sold one of my old Mi MAX for which I got 9.5K and plus 4K cash back on HDFC card. So, I got the NEX for 32.5K :) But sold my Note 8 for 35K which I was not very happy about. I had spent a total of 73K for it including the case and insurance. That's why I don't want to spend do much on the phone anymore, unless it's something really innovative and exciting. NEX is absolutely beautiful. I just miss that sharpness from my Note 8 and hence planning to get a secondary phone.

Hopefully I will buy the V30 today. Banding issue could be an annoyance for me as I am super sensitive to displays. But let's see. If I don't like it then I can still give it to one of my friends :) Thanks again for the quick response and all the info :)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
NO, it's not present in all V30s. They're been people who go to zero and still have perfect displays. They just don't talk about it much because they don't have a problem.

Also, as you mention, for most people this very low brightness is a NON-issue -- because by going so dark you are negating OLED vibrancy and contrast in the first place. They don't go that dark.

I run my display at about 70% and when I set up my friends' phones (11 total so far), I set it at that level for them. No complaints. Of course, I turn auto brightness off.

But yes, when it is present it's usually under 30% brightness -- but more often with even less like 15%. This is why Google "fixed" the issue with Pixel 2 XL (which uses the same V30 OLED display) by limiting how low brightness can go. They set their ZERO brightness at about 30% of V30 brightness. THERE, problem solved. :p

The issue however, is for people who could have "perfect" displays on Pixel 2 XL, they will never see the super blacks at true ZERO level like some can in the V30.

"Minimum Brightness" in smartphones is almost never true minimum brightness anyways. It's an arbitrary setting, the minimum brightness the OEM wants you to see. OLEDs historically have banding issues at super low brightness (ie not NORMAL) brightness levels. I see the same complaints with OLED TVs. I'm sure Samsung in the past has done exactly what Google did last year to "fix" the issue. They just don't let the display go down to that level. They cap it.

LG -- not having as much experience with OLED displays in phones -- made a rookie mistake by letting the minimum brightness be TOO low.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shri080:
Finally bought the phone for 22K. It's a 3 months old phone and in absolutely new condition. So far the phone looks and feels amazing for the price I paid. Luckily got a full edge to edge tempered glass too at a local market but had to pay a premium price of 600 bucks for it as he was the only guy to have it in the entire market. And the one whom I bought the phone from was generous to give me 2 nice cases. So, it all seems to be sorted for now. Find the attached pictures to see the tempered glass.

The display colors and sharpness is definitely better than my NEX and the phone is much lighter too. But to be honest, I wouldn't be paying anything more than 25K for it even if were to buy a new one. It certainly doesn't have all that a flagship phone should have.

Front camera is terrible, the viewing angles are bad too. But of course I knew this all and hence wasn't disappointed. I bought it mainly for the design and display. Going to keep my NEX as well along with this beauty :)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
This phone has more than 99% of so-called flagship phones. LG V30+ is true premium phone.

1440P OLED (537 ppi)

Qi wireless charging

3.5mm headset jack

Quad DAC

IP68 dust/water resistance

normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens

128GB internal storage

microSD port for additional storage

bootloader unlock and root

Tell me another phone that has all that? There aren't any.

Yes, front camera could definitely be better.

Yes, I would have liked front facing stereo speakers.

Yes, 6GB RAM would have been even better, but the phone is fast with no lags.

Nothing wrong with the viewing angle as long as you look straight at the phone, which I do. I don't look at the volume buttons when trying to read email... The viewing angles will be bad for OTHER people trying to read your email. ;).

2018 Vivo Nex you keep raving about doesn't have all the features of 2017 LG V30+. Only 1080p/388 ppi. NO IP rating, no Qi wireless charging that I can see. Certainly no quad DAC.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shri080:
Sorry i beg to differ. It doesn't feel as premium in the hand as my note 8 did. In 2017 you can't accept such a terrible front camera. The viewing angles are definitely not up to a flagship phone standard. The loud speaker is okay.

But yeah it certainly is a great phone for the price. Having said all the above things, i am totally in love with this phone. May be because its more of my secondary device. My Nex certainly has better camera and over all better design. Nevertheless i am super happy with this phone for now :)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Specs-wise, the 2017 Samsung Galaxy Note 8 was a close 2nd to the 2017 V30+, maybe even a tie. I didn't like it because for me it was too big, but that's personal opinion. But if someone likes the Note 8 better, for size I'm not going to argue (except the V30+ has quad DAC). But no other 2017 phones came close, leaving out too many features. I've had 1440p OLED since 2014 and I've had Qi wireless charging since 2013. I'm not DOWNGRADING. I also appreciate the IP68 dust/water resistance.

I don't take a lot of selfies, so front camera doesn't matter to me much. I do wish LG had put in a better front camera just so people would shut up about it. :p

I really don't understand complaints about viewing angles. I look at my phone when I look at my phone. I hold it in front of my face. I don't try to read email with my phone lying flat on desk over to the side two feet away from me. It's MY phone; I don't want other people reading my screen. Bad "off viewing" angles are somewhat a positive for me. ;)

Maybe your usage is different and you share a lot of videos with friends on your phone... In that case, the off viewing angles would be a negative.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shri080:
Haha what you say totally makes sense. I have the habbit of nit picking :P Having used Samsung phones for the last 3 years my expectations are too high when it comes to display :) But like you said, the viewing angle is not an issue in daily life usage. But would you pay 60 or 70K for a phone with this issue? That was one of the main reasons i dint buy the pixel 2 excel. But for 22K i cant be asking for more. Haha :P
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
[MENTION=4265825]shri080[/MENTION] I would suggest getting supcase if you don't mind spending much on case, they got some great cases. Also IMO v30 is the perfect flagship except for the front camera, LG UI and their updates.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
I have no clue about the viewing angle issue, I have zero issues regarding that.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
When you tilt and view at certain angles the display turns a little blue.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Which is good for your privacy. I tend to actually look at my phone when I look at my phone, so it's not an "issue". If the people beside me complain they can't read what's on my screen, what do I care?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
Lol I hope it was sarcasm because it's only colour shift which doesn't help in hiding the display contents much.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shri080:
While i agree with you to an extent, i am musician and many a times i watch videos with others and thats when this gets annoying. But thats not very often, so can live with it. But the point is not just that, lg had launched it around 850 dollars when they first launched it globally and an expensive phone like that simply cant have this issu. Though i completely understand that this problem will not be as much of a botheration as some of us are making it to be, we have to make sure the company makes a note of this and don't take buyers for granted. There are other devices in the same price segment which offers better display. But now the price has come down and to an extent that justifies the product. But my point still remains, that the companies can't sell anything they like to consumers and we just blindly say okay to it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Pixel 2 XL has this issue even worse. Theirs is even more blue at off angles.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
Display issue?

Anyone facing this, idk if it's an issue since it happens only in home screen and not in lock screen.

Check this out for reference :

https://youtu.be/XBRNnydyDAc

Also if it's a black wallpaper then it's like the notification bar is highlighted or separately lit in white/Gray. Check this video :

https://youtu.be/J74YW8F7xLY
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shri080:
That was one of the main reasons for me to not buy it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
It was pointed out by many users that all oled phones have a blue shift at an angle, some have less and some have more. On my v30 I hardly notice it. I've seen this and some rainbow effect on OnePlus 5 & 5T.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Mostly for the people who said it's harder to see the display with the color shift. It either is or it's not. They can't have it both ways. ;)

If it's harder to read, then that's a positive for privacy. If it's not harder to read, then don't complain about it.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
It's definitely not a deal breaker but it's not okay for a tier 1 brand.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sid@developer:
Guys,

Yesterday was a pretty bad day for me. I just rebooted my device... yesterday evening, As usual the secure start up showed on and I entered the correct pattern, but unfortunately it didn't recognize... I entered the same correct pattern...more than 10 times...still the same....so i again rebooted and tried...still the same.... rebooted my phone several times and tried...still the same. But since I had no other way, Went till 30 times and the data got erased.. But fortunately, I had backup of my data of almost 90%. This situation seems very wierd... So...now I restored most of my data. Can anyone explain what might have happened ?

PS: Pls turn of Secure Startup in your settings.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shri080:
2 days with the phone and I was sadly done. It wasn't as snappy as my NEX and the display wasn't to the level I expected. Note 8 is in a different league altogether. Anyway, came here to say good bye :)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
You clearly got a bad unit. And the tempered glass you added on ruins the display quality, that's why I mentioned there is no good tempered glass for this phone in India. The NEX will of course be a bit snappier due to it having an sd845 but it's not much of a jump over the 835.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I don't put anything on my glass display.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
I chucked my "edge glue" tempered glass coz it was literally collecting dust under the glass. Got myself one of those LOCA tempered glass from Ali and now I can't even tell there's a tempered glass on my phone. I highly recommend it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sai444:
Is Vodafone or Airtel VoLTE working for anyone?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sid@developer:
Nope.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
Is anyone using a wireless charger with the v30? I bought a 10w charger and charging is obviously much slower than cable but it's noticeably hotter. Anybody else facing this?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sid@developer:
Generally, Wireless Charging gives a lot of heat.... It's recommended to charge in a cool environment...Like Air conditionered room etc....
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] anirudhs2owner:
I use wireless charging. It is slower. Takes about double the time. And it gets warm but not Hot. I keep it in an AC room
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Yuvrajgharat:
Nope, mine is working fine.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
Wireless charging is such a fail then. I bought a 10w charger and it's charging only 0-38% in an hour, much less than LG's claim of 0-50% in 55mins.

---------- Post added at 02:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:42 PM ----------

What's the charging rate?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sid@developer:
Did you charge at room temperature ?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sai444:
Can anyone suggest me good in-ear earphones. Wired or wireless?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] gazzacbr:
Check LG v30 accessories thread, lots of talk on there. I have SoundMAGIC E80C and great sound.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] suyogmh:
No and doubt it will ever support. I have raised this with LG India Support since June 2018 and they always send canned standard messages. They also told me (got calls from LG india) that this issue is escalated with technical team. Though we know that there is not much technical but more of financial thing may be between LG and Operators.

But I just saw Pixel 2 is going to be supported on Vodafone VoLTE and LG Q7, Q Stylus show as supported devices , these as recently added.

So there could be hope.

If possible anyone who want to have VoLTE on their V30+ or even G7 should raise support ticket with LG by sending them email on serviceindia@lge.com
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sai444:
I did check those threads , only two models are spoken about. Soundmagic E80C and 1more quad driver. So I thought I can get response from Indian users alone over here.

So I guess E80C stands out among all. Thanks
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] anirudhs2owner:
RAVPower Wireless Charging Pad for iPhone X / 8 / 8 Plus https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0787WXCVF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_8XXYBbBF63YXV

This wireless charger is at a steal right now. Ravpower is one of the best ones out there. And it's a QC3.0 compliant one.

Hope I have helped someone buy this by sharing it here.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
A steal at 3k? I don't think so.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] whyzee:
Just bought a V30 and I’m sorely disappointed with the selfie camera. I’m on June 2018 update and didn’t update it further as I wanted to have the option to root. Do newer update fix the front camera quality or is it all just the same? What do you guys recommend? Thanks.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sid@developer:
For selfie camera...I recommend you to use Google Camera with HDR+. It makes the camera much better.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] kunalchowdhury:
Are we not getting any Security updates for the V30 in India? Mine is running Aug 1st update.

Cheers

Kunal
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
And as long as you get the November update it's still fine. At least every 90 days is the requirement for Oreo. That last update with "August 1st" security patch was not released on August 1st, but instead was released end of August. So, it's still been less than 90 days. If you get an update with November patch released sometime before end of November, it's still in the 90 day window.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
If you bought the v30 expecting to take selfies then your research was poor. It's known that the front cam is bad on this phone and it is limited by hardware so no software update can fix that.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] whyzee:
Thanks for stating the obvious but, that’s still not answering my question. I’m looking to get the best front cam performance possible on this phone.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
How is that not answering your question? I already said it's limited by hardware and no software update or even apps can help you. You're better off with the stock camera app.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
TWRP FLASHABLE "ROM" versions of full image India KDZ

For those who have bootloader unlock and TWRP, [MENTION=3138121]seadersn[/MENTION] has made a TWRP-flashable "ROM" (KDZ in TWRP flashable file form). This continues the TWRP-flashable KDZ tradition which has been available for US998 and Europe H930, to update easily to newer stock firmware using TWRP. He's gallantly expanding to other variants.

He will also do future updates when they arrive.

See top of

post #1 of this thread for the TWRP flashable link.

Please go to his thread to thank him. He's putting a lot of effort into making TWRP flashable KDZ for our phones.

These "stock" zips are for people who have TWRP and want to update to newer stock firmware very easily. These are not conventional ROMs that any variant can flash. They are merely TWRP flashable versions of full image KDZ. If you live in India/Philippines/Indonesia and have an H930DS this "EAS" region firmware is for you. For instance it would (should) give you India Jio VoLTE with a Jio SIM card and is currently the newest firmware available for that region.

This "ROM" (really TWRP flashable KDZ) is also probably compatible with other phones like Europe H930 as some have flashed other H930DS firmware onto H930 -- but they have slight bugs like showing phantom 2nd SIM card. However someone flashing this "ROM" over H930 should have very good reason for doing so, not just for fun.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
What's new in this update?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Just security patch, probably. But we now will have TWRP flashable ways to update. A lot of people requested that.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
You love my screenshot, don't you? :p

I haven't received August security patch in that build yet...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
You can upgrade via LGUP with full image KDZ or you can flash the TWRP flashable zip file via TWRP.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
To which one? August Indian ROM?

Also is that LG firmware site trusted?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
Did anyone get the auto update yet?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
Which auto update?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinnerz2000:
We should be getting a security patch update this week and maybe some minor bug fixes.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deepak111:
Oh you sure there's an update coming this month?