yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
Glad you tried that, it was worth a shot.

I see on another thread they have the source code, so it's just a matter of time now for Root with the recent popularity of a $50 LTE Watch.

I haven't seen anyone confirm that you can change the LTE bands with any certainty, without that I don't think the APN changes will matter.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adavis99:
Anyone actively dev'ing this watch?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enyce9:
how about dirtycow exploit https://github.com/timwr/CVE-2016-5195
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwbentley:
Just received mine yesterday from techrabbit. I can't get it to connect via Bluetooth. The only thing that seems to be affected by this so far is Google play music. I can't start a song from the watch to the phone because it won't connect to my v10 Bluetooth. Anyone else?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arupman:
I'm in the exact same boat. Hoping any of you that get this working will post here! Definitely willing to contribute to a bounty for this.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Timmons:
Updating the wear24 apk so that it works with any carrier would be great too.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlson03:
Not sure if you mean installing the apk, but I downloaded it from here....

https://apkpure.com/wear24/com.verizon.jumpstart.app

Its still the verizon one, but you can customize the default watch face with it
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
I think he meant APN. My shipment got delayed, but I'm fairly certain com.verizon.jumpstart.app is a preinstalled system app on the watch.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlson03:
hmm, don't see that in the app list on the watch
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
I believe the system apps are listed separately.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlson03:
Yeah, checked in the system too, but there is "Wear24" app in there....when I disable it, it breaks the watchface tho.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
Yup, that would be it. Why would you disable it? Anyway, we're way off topic now. Remember, the guy meant APN, not APK. ;)
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlson03:
haha, yeah, I disabled it just to see what would happen....probably try to find another watchface app anyways. Good luck getting your watch!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevina90:
Happy to confirm that metal link style straps work great!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wingzero:
Would you lose the water resistance pulling out the original band/pin connector?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Timmons:
To clarify I am referring to that apk that people posted the url for. I've downloaded it and it installs fine but as I'm on AT&T it doesn't appear in my apps list, I'm unable to open it. Judging by the screenshots you can edit the watchface details and put customized items on the face with the wear24 app. Not seeing a way to do that unless you have verizion.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
Marcsoup,

What version of the OS were you when you attempted Kingroot? Again its a shot in the dark, but I'm curious to see if it would work at 1.5 and 2.0 (and all the other iterations). I'm already at 2.8.0.182823779, my phone first booted with 2.0; so I never had a chance w/ 1.5.

2nd Question. Any images of you swapping the NanoSim card; specifically the speaker cable that broke. The speaker is HORRIBLE, but would love to avoid breaking it.

- Thanks!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcsoup:
I was at the same, 2.8.0.

The speaker and Sim are on the same piece and use the same cable. I didn't actually break the cable, it's the piezoelectric speaker that I put a tiny bit of pressure on while swapping the Sim which apparently messed it up. The thing is extremely fragile. I played around with it again last night and was able to get some sound out of it, but very quiet. To swap the SIM, there's a small bit of black foam that if you remove it, you can slide the card right out and put your own in.

I'll toss some pics up when I get home tonight.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rubber guard:
great. I'm set to receive my watch tomorrow and your posts are helpful as I evaluate doing some of the mods you are pursuing.

Re carriers/sim: I see t mobile as an access point name on your previous screenshot. What about one of those data only T-Mobile sims? I still carry one of those from the 300mb for free offer from years ago. I don't use it regularly, but to my knowledge, it hasn't been shut down. I may need to convert it to nano sim first, I think its a full sim at present, ill have to extract it from my Nexus 7 3G to confirm.

Would that work, or would we have the same issue as with the Fi Data Only sim (which I also have)...it identifies, but is unable to activate and be used without proper APN settings? TIA

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And separately to those with your watches, is the order of steps for initial setup important to get everything in ideal configuration? I think I've seen contrasting posts on the importance of doing steps in certain order.

Without input from those of you who have done it, I'd probably go in this order, but any input is welcome (and likely helpful for others as they receive and setup their devices).

Activate

disable stock/vzw apps, replace any needed apps with preferred substitute. Any other settings needing to be changed?

pair / BT pair

accept system updates

etc
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flexia32:
For me I had to update before I could disable any Verizon wear. And then after the update I had to reset in order to install other messages app
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcsoup:
I didn't even think of mine. I'll have to grab my TMobile Sim out of my ancient tablet. I get the email every month saying free couple hundred mb has been refreshed.

I don't think the order really matters honestly. I personally went pair, update, disable apps, and edited preferences to my liking. It worked well enough for my purposes, except the Sim card/apn.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rubber guard:
Just confirmed lte bands for fi via support chat:

"LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/9/19/20/28/41 are compatible with Project Fi."
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gnice18:
Just a heads up, I took a shot and cut down my band as small as I could and I was not able to remove the plug part from the small circle that the screws poke into on the band. The copper plugs cross through that section and the serrated blade I was using wasn't doing the job. Even though I've ruined my OG band, I'm going to do some grey rtv silicon and call it a day once I find the right strap that works with the screws.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcsoup:
That sounds a lot like my method of working on electronics. Rip it apart with a knife then glue the remains back together xD

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Ok, so, I dumped all the pics I've taken in an imgur album. I don't feel like embedding them here.

https://imgur.com/a/4tnUr
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FoneWatcher:
Are you looking onthe watch itself or your phone apps?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcsoup:
So, like a moron, I somehow managed to break the SIM card connector last night... I'll see if I can possibly resurrect it during my lunch hour at work today so I can continue messing around with it. Whoops...

Again, word of warning, that SIM/speaker assembly is EXTREMELY delicate, so don't be as rough with it as I was.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
No dice with Dirty Cow.

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Does anyone have the 1.5 or original Recovery IMG for the wear24? Would like to rollback from 2.0 to see what happens.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
I'm just realizing that we do not have a USB interface, so Fastboot won't work. I saw a RootJunky Video (for the Moto 360) with a constructed USB adapter that plugs in though the ports underneath one of the straps. The FCC images posted earlier in this thread show that one band is for the LTE antenna and the other is for the Wifi Antenna. Does any one know if the Antenna Connections for each band Double as a USB connection? If not, where can we interface for fastboot?

Anyone actively trying to root the Wear24?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcsoup:
If you take a look at the last few pages on this thread, we've been trying to figure it out.

https://xdaforums.com/android-wear/help/wear24-how-to-install-whats-app-android-t3714203/page4
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bensdeals:
Thanks!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FoneWatcher:
I have had this watch for only a few days and I am completely in love with it. Super fine AW - well worth it at USD89, let alone the 50 I snagged one for. Blows away my Moto 360, which I also love very much.

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Awesome pics, thanks. I wouldn't have the nerves for that job!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cableguy_2018:
I've had my $50 tech rabbit purchase for a few days now but am having trouble with messages. When it was first activated, I was able to reply to a text using voice to text, handwriting, or keyboard. Then, after updates, I can only reply using voice to text (on message+). For those using Android messages instead of message+, how'd you set it up? Everytime I try to disable message+, I no longer can send messages or do any calling. Heck, I'd be ok using message+ if I could type replies instead of voice to text. Having a smartwatch to discreetly reply to texts in meetings is blown to bits when I have to speak replies out loud.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwbentley:
Meaning these features (keyboard, handwriting) fail when you use them or you cannot find them?

If it's fail do a factory reset and let everyone update first before setting it up

If it's cannot find them. The keyboard setting is hidden under reply with emoji
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cableguy_2018:
No, meaning they are not even an option replying through message+. All I get to pick from is "voice to text" or pre-typed phrases.

I get ALL the options when I install Android messages but the messages never send. They indefinitely say "sending." I'm beginning to think this watch isn't even worth the $50 steal price.

I haven't factory reset the thing after getting it activated on Verizon service so I will try that I suppose. (I reset twice while using as Bluetooth only but had no luck.) I'll post update after trying...
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FoneWatcher:
Not sure why yours has that problem, but mine is incredible and waaaay exceeds my expectations. Easily worth the 89 regular sale price IMO.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lifeisfun:
Same here, excellent watch
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwbentley:
You don't have the emoji option when you press reply?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cableguy_2018:
No, I didn't have the emoji option at all. But, I just factory reset the watch and started the whole process over again and now have the option again. I can reply using voice to text, keyboard, or pre typed messages. However, the Play Store on the watch says there are 7 apps ready to update. They are:

1.) Android Wear - Smartwatch

2.) Clock

3.) Google

4.) Google Fit - Fitness Tracking

5.) Google Handwriting Input

6.) Google TalkBack

7.) Looks Android Wear Watch Faces

I'm afraid to update these because when I did the last time, I lost the emoji option in message+. The version of these apps on the watch currently and the version it wants to upgrade to are:

1.) 2.0.01512128253 --> 2.8.0.182823779

2.) 5.0.1.009.148772186 --> 5.1.0.006.163316094

3.) 6.15.24.25.arm --> 7.19.20.25.arm

4.) 1.64.10-200 --> 1.78.02-230

5.) 20161201.0 --> 20170322.0

6.) 5.1.0 --> 6.1.0.182429506

7.) 1.1.0 --> 1.10.0

Anybody have these versions (or others) that still have the emoji option / ability to TYPE message+ replies? For now, I'm just not going to upgrade anything.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
How are people able to send SMS with Android Messages and make / receive calls? I've read everything I could find, but nothing works.

I've disabled Verizon Message+, disabled My Verizon, installed Android Messages, disabled Cellular and disabled the Verizon Wireless Profile in SIM Info. Trying to send an SMS with Android Messages attempts to use the watch instead of my phone and fails. Every time I open the Phone app on my watch it prompts to turn on Bluetooth audio to make and receive calls. When I try to place a call, the Phone app closes. I do not receive notifications when I receive a phone call or SMS on the watch.

I tried unpairing the watch and reconnecting it, but did not get any Bluetooth permission prompts to allow anything. The only thing listed in the Bluetooth Device details is Contact sharing.

I have not tried a factory reset yet as I'm not sure what should be done differently in the process of setting it back up. Any ideas what I should do?

EDIT: I just factory reset it and phone calls are working. I'm still waiting for Android Wear and other apps to update / install, so I can't try SMS yet. I think the reason why a factory reset works is that the Verizon Carrier Profile stays disabled after resetting.

EDIT 2: Android Messages is working. Make sure to enable all the permissions. Only Contacts were enabled until I went and enabled SMS and Phone manually.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cableguy_2018:
I had the same issues. When I spoke to a Verizon rep, they told me the watch wasn't designed to take Bluetooth calls itself. She told me it was intended to work like the Moto 360 in that you can accept or reject calls from the watch but if accepted, you use your phone to talk. (That being said, neither rep knew a lot about the Wear24.)

I have mine activated on LTE and the call quality isn't great.

Regarding sms, I couldn't get them to work with Android messenger at all. I hit the same road block you did. Anytime I disabled message+, nothing worked right.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flexia32:
Guys with Android messager issue try going into the wear app on the phone and on settings wear24 and then hit resync apps. Also go into the play store on the watch and make sure messenger is up to date. I had issues with messenger at first but it works great now
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cableguy_2018:
Flexia32... can I ask what version of Android Wear and Android Messages you have on the watch? Thanks.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FoneWatcher:
Mine was all ****ed up the first time I set-up and tried disabling VZN items as I'd seen directed on a post here. SO that didn't work.

Then I reset the watch, left everything alone (I disabled just a couple of calling apps in the watch System) and it works like a champ.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
What are the "a couple of calling apps"? I didn't see any phone related system apps that could be disabled.

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See my second edit on my post.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flexia32:
I'm on 2.8.040 on both phone and watch
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gkaz24:
Can someone please give a step by step to get LTE and Android messages to work. I've tried so many things but my LTE never seems to work. I have a Verizon pixel 2 btw

Also do you have to pay additionall money for the watch to have LTE? Im just confused on how to get this to the maximum potential. As of now I just have android messenger working. No data though
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qkall:
yeah if you want lte you need to have lte for the watch... however you can always tether to your watch for things that won't work from default through bluetooth (playstore updates, presumably software updates).
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gkaz24:
Ahh. Didn't realize it was extra charge. Not worth it for me! I had an LG g watch and this is a fantastic 50 dollar upgrade!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calvados:
Hi everyone,

Has anyone noticed that google assistant on this watch seems to be a crippled version of the full google assistant? For example with my phones, tablets, and google homes I can say 'hey/ok google play cat videos from youtube on chromecastName" and it plays the video from youtube on my chromecast, whereas the same call to google assistant on the wear24 brings up search results for 'cat videos on youtube'. Same goes for asking google to play music from Spotify etc.

Is there anyway to have the full google assistant on the wear24? My watch shows it is on version 2.8, and the paired phone that I use the watch with has the latest version of the google app, and performs 'hey google' calls without issue.

Thanks everyone,

Cal.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qkall:
like i said everything else should work.. like you can use the wear browser and surf the web and all of that through bluetooth... just streaming from your watch and updating apps are the only thing they need some sort of outside data (tethered).
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SyCoREAPER:
That's Assistant across all Android Wear watches, not just wear24.

No, not unless Google changes it.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calvados:
Wow that's a disappointment. Having full GA functionality was the biggest selling feature for me as I assumed it would be there...but I guess in the end I failed to look into it fully.

I fail to understand why they wouldn't implement the full Assistant functionality in Android Wear. I mean isn't GA simply an interface that makes API calls to the chromecasts who do the actual heavy lifting?

Thanks,

Cal.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SyCoREAPER:
This is just my presumption but full GA is heavy and would probably kill the watch battery or CPU. I think at the minium it should be able to speak and pull up results.

Who knows, AW is constantly evolving, it could still happen.

Unrelated to the above for everyone else reading, a developer and I are bringing an exciting feature to all Android Wear devices. It's in early Alpha but fairly functional. Can't divulge anything more specific, but will update everyone as soon as it's ready.

Stay tuned.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hartleyshc:
Just wait until you have a house full of GA devices (Phone, AW, Shield TV, Google Home, "Assistant ready" Speakers) and you'll discover very quickly how everything is fragmented already.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calvados:
Already there for the most part, (3 google homes, 3 google phones, 2 google tablets, 2 chromecast video, 2 chomecast audio, and now 1 Android Wear), but haven't noticed huge gaps in functionality until GA on Android Wear.

I personally don't feel that GA on AW would be taxing on the CPU or battery. GA is already parsing audio queries (I assume by handing off that task to the bluetooth connected phone), so having it check a larger lookup table to determine what action/API to call, then making said call, should be a trivial expense at best.

Anyways, just my ramblings on the matter.

Thanks,

Cal.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FoneWatcher:
There's the problem right there.

AW's core functionality isn't the same as those other devices at.all. It's primary purpose is discreet functionality. Aw is indispensible for me b/c it allows you to check/reply to communications discreetly (during meetings, while listening to someone, etc.) without appearing rude and/or without the hassle of pulling your phone out of your pocket and reading, especially if it's not important/urgent.

I see these critical AW posts all the time and my guess is that the users who complain, don't really use their phones/AW in the same way that business/social users do, so they miss the whole point.

AW isn't a tiny wrist-phone (although I know this is useful to joggers/hikers) for me and that's teh way I want it.

/rant
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calvados:
To clarify I wasn't criticizing AW, but rather the implementation of Google Assistant within AW. AW as a whole is great, but the GA aspect of it is deeply lacking.

Thanks,

Cal.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Janet24:
Anyone know what i apps i can download to have this working on my tmobile phone 😭. It does not work
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calvados:
Question for those more experienced AW users: Is it normal that wifi is usually disconnected? Pretty much any time I swipe down from the clock face the wifi icon is missing. I check connectivity under settings, and it wifi always shows "Last Used". It's not until I click on that "last used" a few times that it eventually shows "connected". I back out to the watch face again, then go right back into the settings, and it again shows "last used" instead of "connected"

Is this normal behavior? A battery saving feature perhaps?

Thanks,

Cal.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joelphilippage:
Sure is much to my annoyance. Some of my apps like Nav Explorer depend on WiFi to transfer files to wear, so this confuses a lot of users when it doesn't work.

AW will prefer Bluetooth if it has it and will disconnect WiFi to save battery. If you want to stay on WiFi, disable Bluetooth on your Watch or Phone. I have found some apps like Google Fit require Bluetooth to sync up, so keep this in mind.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FoneWatcher:
What doesn't work, exactly? I am paired with a TMO phone and it's excellent in all functions. Doesn't have a heart-rate monitor, but I never look at that data on my 360 Sport, either.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] felolag:
Friends, forgive my English. If you disassemble a watch and swap a SIM card that will work the mobile network and 3G? Oh, they look ****ing great.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
No, it will only work with a Verizon SIM as the APN settings cannot be changed without root access.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qkall:
got updated to android 2.9 last night... nothing seems that different.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leandrocassis:
Anyone can please check if this works?

https://xdaforums.com/android-wear/development/app-pay-enabler-android-pay-oreo-t3750815

Maybe you can get in contact with the developer to see if he can help to enable android pay on the Wear24.

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Anyone can please check if this works?

https://xdaforums.com/android-wear/development/app-pay-enabler-android-pay-oreo-t3750815

Maybe you can get in contact with the developer to see if he can help to enable android pay on the Wear24.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yochananmarqos:
No, it won't work since NFC is disabled.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FoneWatcher:
One huge thing I noticed is now I'm able to put Google Ass't into one of the dials on the default face. It is the single most valuable feature on my 360 Sport and made this Wear24 less useful until now. That's all I noticed so far.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tdavis81:
It appears as though wifi only works if you enable the Cellular connection.