yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ximinez84:
Ok, first off - unusually high power consumption was caused by BatteryStatus (which is now called HomeScreen PlusPlus). I removed it, and used acbPowerMeter and got normal results with the original HP battery, as well as the 3600 mAh, non-HP spare.

This doesn't, however, change the fact, that the extended battery lasts shorter than the original. I'll try a few more things and post the results.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
If its Agasys 1710 its a very good rom ,all working

Now you will find roms that are a bit faster that this , but for first time its a very good room stable and easy to flash .

Good luck
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dghx:
Hi,

I'm new to HX4700 and too flashing rom - so excuse me if my questions seem dumb.

A few weeks ago I bought a used HX4700. It had WM2003 installed. I played around with it for a few days got comfortable that it was ok and flashed it with WM6.1 SL61v3 rom. Result was perfect. I was glad there were people kind enough to share their rom.

About 4 days later it started acting up. The display would develop lines, and the images would break up until it was useless. Reseting it would correct the problem but only breifly. I decided I should try WM2005 and see what happened - same results.

Anyone out their know what's got into it?

I'd appreciate any help cos I'm a little bummed out about it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
It might have memory problem...?

Try to put on an official ROM, and try the machine..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gwolford:
Multiple installs of WM2003, WM5, WM6 WM6.1 havent worked on two devices....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dghx:
Thanks for your replies:

1. The WM2005 I had installed was from the HP web site - so official version. I've now even tried reinstalling WM2003 from HP web site - same results.

2. (Gwolford) could you elaborate on your multi installs comments - should I be doing something to remove previous versions before installing new versions?

Something else that I've noted:

a. it seems to be happier sitting in the cradle then out of it no matter which of the fully charged batteries I use.

b. it seems to be getting worse with every new installation.

c. it seems to get better when the battery is removed from the device for a number of hours - battery reinstalled - and put back on the cradle. Before I did this (last night) I was almost ready to conclude that it was bricked.

Thanks for your help
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dghx:
Hi again,

I've just finished checking the battery voltage using a multimeter. The batteries have a plus on pin 1 and 2 (going from left to right with the pins on the left hand corner of the battery) and a minus on pins 5 and 6. I am getting zero volts across any combination of the above (i.e 1 and 5, 1 and 6...) and approx. 0.9v on combinations of all the other pins. Is this right? Seems odd.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lfenlin:
There are hx4700 rom kitchen ! ROM 20924 is faster EVER!

4700 wm6.1 中文 kitchen _ 只用点击五次鼠标就能生成rom(更新完整20924模板)

新年礼物，送上HP4700 20924 纯净rom，稳定才是硬道理
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Dont try to do any test in batt contacts , not usefull at all , batt have a complex circuit inside . There are one conclusion , if you batt works with your machine and you have aprox 4 hours of works all its ok , no other test .Probably you have both batt s bad , the inside Varta batt and the main one .

You can check your internal batt , remove the backcover and quit the Varta mini batt , then test outside , with multimeter , check voltage and current , be carefull with current its only 6ma . As techical pourpouses only check if have 1,2 volts its enought http://www.repairhppda.com/product_info.php?pName=backup-battery-for-hx4700hx4705&cName=batteries
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dghx:
Internal batt is faulty -I had measured it and found it at 0v - even if pda said it was 100% - but this seems to occur common enough.

would faulty batts (internal/external) cause it to misbehave (display breaking up, horizontal lines - eventually or suddenly end up with a completely white screen) even when connected to ac? It requires multiple resets to bring it back.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Probably yes , first you can solder any rechargeable 1,2 V cell then probe , dont install no rechargeable cell , its only for test . try this solution , check and then if all works fine buy an original Varta batt and if its possible an original HP external batt.

Good luck
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
I've been using mine for months with no internal battery at all (removed) with no problems. When I change my main battery, I have to reset only the date.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Also if you have installed the Varta batt in good state you have to change date and status of automatic bright when change the main , in all roms

You give me an very interesant idea , if I remove my internal batt and I dont have any trouble I prevent oxide or corrosion acid ,,,,,,,,,,,
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Hackashaq:
Thanks

Will check it out. downloading now, had to use "Raysource", hope it's safe!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
Problems with Vivis version 20764.1.1.1

Hello.

I have installed the latest version of Clean Vivis version 20764.1.1.1. and I have a number of problems or faults that I describe below.

1 .- Some times when I try to connect to the wifi through the system is connected but I notice that there is no valid network. Disconnect to connect again and does not let me turn off the wifi. Is it a failure of the vesrion Vivi? (To be solved with a Soft-Reset). With the latest version of AlkorRC not happened.

2 .- When I am connected to the laptop via USB cable sometimes becomes synchronized with the laptop and even though the disconnect the USB cable to synchronize the hx4700 is still trying (to be solved with a Soft-Reset).

3 .- The connection via Infrared does not work. I think at this point and after trying different options for operating system (original WM5, WM6 kozhura, WM6.1 ALKOR RC ,...) I think it must be a hardward problem.

In my opinion I think it is more stable Version of ALKOR RC.

Does anyone have pictures or have installed the version "4700 wm6.1 kitchen中文_只用点击五次鼠标就能生成rom (更新完整模板20924)"?.

A query, someone knows if there is any company in Europe to upgrade the memory to 128 MB.

Thank you.

Note: I use an automatic translator from Spanish to English. Sorry
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dghx:
Hi all,

I'm still getting the misbehaving display (display breaking up, horizontal lines - eventually or suddenly end up with a completely white screen)

So since my last post I have:

1. Completely removed the internal battery - which was dead to begin with. I've seen a number of posts of people running the 4700 without it - so I don't think this is the problem.

2. I've installed k5r1g_ncf35 "successfully" same results as sanjay's 6.1, wm03, wm05.

3. Only post I have found related to this issue any where resulted in the 4700 being sent to HP and being diagnosed that it required a new mother board. I think this might be a little extreme because there are moments were it works fine then the display just goes crazy.....(lines, multiple images of the same thing etc.)

One thing I haven't mentioned before - I'm using the Chris Universal bootloader (bootloader.exe) for cooked rom and the HP setup for official Rom. I tried using the bootloader_gui.exe but it seems to hang up at 38% no idea why and not sure if related to this issue.

At this point I don't think the issue is software related so it must be hardware related can't think of what it could be. Unit was working fine one moment (on sanjay's 6.1 rom) - then I plugged in the car charger and it started acting up but can't think of a why.

Any thoughts or suggestions welcome.

At this point, I guess, I should also ask if anyone knows where I can get a good deal on a motherboard (hoping that this is the problem and not the lcd).

Again, thank you all for your support and welcome help.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dghx:
I've noticed a piece of metal (looks galvanized) inside the 4700. It is embedded in the casing. The motherboard would seem to reset on this. There are contact points on pcb where the mother board contacts this metal piece. There is also traces of tape (insulation) on the pcd. Anyone have any idea what it is, and if it is meant to make contact with the pcb or not?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Take photo , I will see in mine
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Verify lcd connector to mother , clean contacts and conect again , make a LITLE pressure with your finger over it , move to check if a bad solder its inside the mother connector ...BE carefull with yours fingers , all it s very fragile
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dghx:
Hi all & thanks lhasistos for you help,

attached please find photo of metal object which I have now realized is a magnet - so I am thinking it should be insulated from pcb. Not sure what magnet is doing there but some how think it has something to do with the lcd.

I have tried cleaning the contact as suggested by lhasistos - also inserted a piece of paper on top of the ribbon and closed the lever over this to increase the contact pressure - unfortunately I am still getting the display issue.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ceffi:
wm6.5

Hi @all,

i've tried today the new wm6.5 rom. Here you can find my first impressions:

- Load pretty fast (better then alkor rom)

- soft reset works fine, the image include a softrset button on today screen

- but there is no way to disable notification, because, you don't get the detaild list of notofication (it will be empty)

I hope there will be a new version soon?

regards

ceffi
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
This site shows how to make a JTAG connector for hx4700. The connection points are in the same area you mentioned. (if the link doesn't take you to the hx4700 page then navigate links to embedded arm\hx4700 and look at the pdf handbuch/manual) (maybe unrelated but, interesting with good pics)

http://home.arcor.de/EDAconsult/Page3/index.html?c~6.3
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
Here's the hx4700 JTAG manual from the above site.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] toja56:
Please, and a manual for extension of RAM?​
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
please can you take photo more closed to red circle , first plane .I dont know if backlight its by fluoresent tube or leds .this isnt the cause of your trouble , its only for sent an answer .Once time ago when I have installed Sanjays V3 , when change my main batt only the first boot my display was incorrect , double image etc , solved with soft reset and never again until batt change .

one question if you have your machine working in today screen without touch it , your display becomes bad??How much time ??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pdc4:
Hi,

I believe the magnet there is used to secure the plastic/rubbery screen cover that HP shipped with the 4700... There are two hinges on the left side, and a small magnetic plate on the right side to keep it in place.

Regards,

P
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
Newbee question

Hi,

I would like to use my hx4700 as source for an a2dp bluetooth receiver. Which ROM could you recommend?

Thx in advance
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dghx:
Hi,

many thanks for your answers and comments now I know:

1. The magnet is for the plastic door (that never occurred to me because mine never had one).

2. The terminals should be insulated from the magnet.

Please see attached photo for:

1. Typical display

2. A closer picture of the area mentioned in an earlier post.

There does not seem to be any pattern on when the display starts to go bad. I have used it for over an hour and then suddenly (esp. when I pick it up) the display starts to go bad. Once it starts going it does not stop. Some times I switch it on and the HP start display and the windows start display are perfect and then the today page is a mess. It seems to get better after a few (over 4) hours of rest with the external battery off.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
All have the Headphone BT option in BT mannager ........
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
Try Expansys: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=116272

They currently are upgrading my hx4700 to 128kb. Given the current state of GBP Sterling, the price they quote for the job is probably a good deal.

NigelS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
i hate to say this but it looks like a video chip fault. is it hot when it goes funny? and you said that after a rest it came good? it could be the LCD itself. we used to diagnose laptops by using an external monitor... pic on monitor =good lcd=bad. pic on monitor bad. video chip bad...swap motherboard.. our problem is we cant use another screen unless you have 2 4700's and try to swap LCD........
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Why dont try True Connect ,(RaspBerry Software ) you can see yours ppc screen in your PC monitor . Perhaps this can determine if its LCD or driving chip.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
sorry , double post , please Mr Admin can you delete this ,THXS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dghx:
Hi,

thanks for the excellent suggestions!

I did like you said and got the exact same pic on the monitor - so this points towards the vid. chip.

Coincidently I sent the same screen shot to someone that was recommended to me - he replied it was probably the vid. chip. He claimed he could fix it without replacing the motherboard (I was told he was a guru in these things)and seeing that I don't collect paper weights it will be in his hands tomorrow.

Hopefully my next posting won't be that the guru was actually a witch doctor.

Again many thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Hackashaq:
Good luck, what country is the guru located in?

Please let us know how it works out.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ceffi:
Hi,

I#ve tried to delete with "total commander" by deactivate the read only permissons, but i'm not able to delete these files in wm6.1. Does anybody have an idea to help me?

ceffi
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
Try SK Tools or Rescue explorer. Both offer free trials.

I usually modify the Tom Tom cab and remove BtCoreIf.dll & BtSdkCE30.dll. The other dll does not seem to cause any issues.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
ROM status update for any one interested: Been running WM 6.1 CE OS 5.2.20764.1.1.1 Official Style Vivi version for about three weeks now with no issues. Runs fast and no battery drains. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
Thanks for the info.

Because this company knew that the update to the hx4700 64MB to 128MB The company is actually PPcTech USA-California, only eXpansys makes partner in Europe. ($ 169 U.S.).

I tried contacting Rusas shops that perform this work but without reply.

Does anyone know of other company or store closest to Spain .. and cheaper?.

Thank you.

Note: We used a Google Translator Spanish to English
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
I still have many problems when I connect via Wifi with Rom WM 6.1 CE OS 5.2.20764.1.1.1 Official Style Vivi version.:mad:

I used IE, Opera Mini, Opera 9.5b2, UCWEB 6.38, etc ... On many occasions, almost always, the system freezes and you have to do to unlock a SR. Does anyone have this problem?:confused:

On the other hand I have seen this ALKOR working on a new ROM. When in English, ALKOR?.:)

Greetings.

Note: We used a Google Translator Spanish to English
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
Benchtest new ROM

Hello Sanjay,

Just to give you my 2 cents.

I just installed your new ROM with 8Mb page pool.

- I like the new icon that has been added (battery, clock, etc...)

- Interface seems to be a little faster.

- While I was configuring, BT manager, PPC completly froze. The device didn't want to soft reset or hard reset. The screen was totaly OFF. Had to remove the battery + soft reset and it came back to life. Strange enough, I didn't lost my installed apps but lost their config.

This looks pretty the same behaviour as post from dpdurst.

I don't know if BT has something different but seems to be more prone to crash.

Other than that, I prefer this ROM.

Regards,

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
resets

Dpdurst, Cjean,

Thanks for letting me know. Would be interested in knowing if this keeps happening. I made no changes to BT in this version from the PDAV61KBD one, so the drivers are identical. The BT drivers in both the Kozhura rom and PDAVIET rom also appear to be the same, so I am certain that whatever issues we are seeing with BT would be identical in both.

I will also keep exercising BT on my device to see if I can find circumstances that cause the issue. Not sure if using drivers from earlier versions would be helpful.

Perhaps algasystems has some thoughts on this.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
Interesting thread about Paging Pool specific to the hx4700:

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=230392
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Thank you pepeluu. I think I've done all I can think of on this rom and so hope that other more experienced cooks can make it better.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello Alan,

No I did not use the compressed versions since I think the general desire was for an rom that is as close to "original" as possible. I may experiment with these in the future. Actually PPT is the only application that takes a lot of space. Word and Excel are not that storage intensive.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello Charles,

No the HTC task manager is not in these roms. This was built by comparing the algasystems improved rom and Kozhura's 6.1. Since you are using a 64mb device, I would suggest trying the 4.8mb pagepool version. It will give you more memory for BT. Would appreciate knowing if BTphone works since I have no way to test this.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] toja56:
Hi sanjay1951,

Please, what is he like difference between by those version?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Uolos:
page pool. 4 and 8 mb.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
On he way home the BT and the GPS worked just fine, I have a suspicion that its a program I ran before this that gave me memory problems. I'll do some more testing but it is working so far.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
Sanjay,

Thanks for taking care of us like if we were your sons.:)

Well maybe dead PPC like is just a bad luck because it just happened once. I remember this happened to me a longgggggg time ago.

As far the BT, when I use BT phone and another BT device, the PPC is slowing down like crazy and sometime the whole PPC freeze. I don't know if this symtomes may indicate a low memory or high CPU usage. I tried to minimize the BT phone manager to see the memory available but PPC crashed.

I'll report further observation when I have.

Regards,

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mda07:
wouuld it work with a tmobile wing/herald
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
Hi mda,

No. It won´t work. ROM is device specific.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Linus_18:
HI cool, i link usb hdd with a USB-HOST-ADAPTER i bought from ratoc system international; USB HD that i has, is 100 gb, and has separate battery power;you need a program from rhmartin named USB_HDD that was included in pdaviet rom for hx4700; linux familiar boots from INSIDE WM6; you can search RAM RESCUE and HARET; RAM RESCUE creates a partition in a cf card (no damage x other files) and installs there Linux; HARET loads LINUX from inside WM6; it's not a real dual boot; after running linux, you have to soft reset pocket pc and sometimes to remove battery and then insert it again.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Sanjay and algasystems, thanks :)

Does anyone really use PPT on their machine? In my kitchening it is the first thing to go, I rarely use it on a desktop and never have on a PDA.

Any chance we can cook with your ROM to remove the bits we don't want to add those we do? Vivi's got a kitchen and I can play happily with that; however it is getting the base ROM in the kitchen that I need an idiot's guide for... :o
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nunesfl:
Hi Guys, is it possible to convert this WM6.1 ROM or Kozura's one to use it in hx2*** series ? I see more initiatives to generate ROMs for hx4700 than to hx2***... there is a lot of hx2*** owners like me that would be very very happy to see a working run (without bugs) in their IPaqs...

Tks,
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
ROMs for Hx2700 already exist. See here.

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
I use PPT on my ipaq. (given not very often) but I too would like to know how to get new base rom into vivi's kitchen
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] albertorrent:
Hi Sanjay,

I found that net CF framework 3.5 could increase the speed :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=373721

Is it possible for you to includ it in your futur rom ?

thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] detty:
Sync Issues with WM6.1

Has anyone experienced erratic behavior with syncing WM6.1 to Vista Windows Mobile sync center? After doing the 6.1 update, it seems that I can sporadically make a connection with the USB interface. Usually, the desktop doesn't even see the ipaq plugged in. I've tried with and without 'Enable advanced network functionality' checked on the USB to PC settings page.

Dave
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
I have not had any issues with Vista and the 6.1 yet. That seems to work fine so far.

On another note, I'm able to duplicate the crashing hard reset of the PPC now with GPS software. It appears that running my flight GPS software for about 15 mins, and then shutting that down and starting up Co-Pilot v7 causes the PPC to hard reset after a few minutes of CP running. It seems that if I run only one of them the whole time there is not a problem. Not sure I'm going to stay with 6.1, its faster than the 6.0, but stability is key for mine when in the airplane using the GPS.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Vervol:
hehe:D

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=70688&view=findpost&p=2442796
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
what are those images? I dont want to register only to see them...:(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
Thanks ALKOR.

I can not see the first pictures of your new ROM and I'm not in 4pda.ru.:(

I am impatient to test your new rom and I am sure it will be as reliable and stable as the previous one (RC).:D

Greetings
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Vervol:
U'll see it late ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
WM 6.5

Guys, is there any news about the WM 6.5 rom? Somebody has wrote to find, but would need any experience about it! ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Vervol:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=485486 ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] munkypoo7:
Probably a stupid question... would this work on my iPAQ 111? :S
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ceffi:
I#m using sktools, but it doesen't work, all files are busy by os. How can i release them to deletion?

greatings ceffi
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
SKtools should show the files as replaced in the ROM. You should be able to delete with sktools

If not then try:

The problem comes with two files from my device/windows/

BtCoreIf.dll

BtSdkCE30.dll

rename them:

BtCoreIf.dll.old

BtSdkCE30.dll.old

And then, do a soft reset

The original ROM BtCoreIf.dll & BtSdkCE30.dll should be back and all working.

Never used total commander but it should be able to do this too.

Once booted back up you can then delete the BtCoreIf.dll.old & BtSdkCE30.dll.old files that you renamed