yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
So true, 210 is a good data device, but for sound and GPS it is very poor. The screen is impossible to seei n the sun . I dont know what HP was thinking. They were even promoting these with several different GPS devices. Maybe if you only travel at night? Anyway, I would recommend finding a ROM that you like and sticking with the 4700. Put your money in a high gb CF and donate to the guys that keep these devices running! But thats just me. Good luck

Sunday
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
For HP4700, you can use 4GB NORMAL SD, and there is 16GB CF so you can handle 20GB capacity..:) (I am using this combo...and every program is installed to the CF..and the navi stuff is running on SD...)

other question:

I have set the rotate screen function to one hardware button in "Settings/Button" and its working very well (switch between portrait-landscape mode with a single button pressing), BUT in landscape mode I need the other rotation... :(

Where can I change the direction of the landscape rotating?

Thanks,

Bulesz
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello , install Pocket Power , you will have , power icon , power screen icon , reset icon , and rotate screen icon in 90 degrees steps , its a small soft that you can install in device , its only 120k
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
Thanks, I will try.

But I would use the hardware button for rotation, but I need the opposite direction as the default...:(

Cheers,

Bulesz
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
Go to settings, system, screen. You then have the orientation options Portrait, Landscape (left or right handed)

Select left handed and accept

Screen will then go to landscape.

Use hard button to change back to portrait.

Now screen will toggle between left handed landscape and portrait.

Also note that if you press & hold down calendar hard button it will change screen orientation
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
WOW! :) Thanks!

I wanted to reply to my question to get the same solution just now as you mentioned! :)

Thanks again its a very useful info! ;)

B.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
WM6.1 ActiveSync with 2 PCs error code 86000107

WM6.1 ActiveSync with 2 PCs error code 86000107

I have been having this issue with numerous WM6.1 ROMs. It would appear that MS have a fix:

"This is a known issue and was fixed in AKU 1.2. The customer would need to contact the OEM to see if they are providing the fix. Action: Customer upgrades to Windows Mobile 6.1 Customer normally sync's with two PC's and when trying to sync with the second PC sync fails. Results: Error code 86000107 Sync fails Cause: The issue is talking about deleting more than 100 contacts. However, it’s not specific to the delete operation. As long as there are more than 100 changes in one data type to be synced to the desktop, you can hit this issue. Resolution: The fix is available to the OEM's (device manufactures) and the customer will need to contact them to see if they have an update available."

I believe Vivi ROM has AKU 1.1.1, so we need to wait for AKU 1.2 to be released and hopefully Vivi can create a new ROM for us all.

Vivi, would this be possible? I hope so, as I really like your ROM.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
there are also 32gig,64 gig and I recently read of 100 gig. i have had reports on aximsite/mobility site that 32 gig CF does work ... they should all work as the CF standard for CF1 allows an addressable space of 137gig.....didnt bother to look for the CF2 std as 100 is the biggest card i have seen... its ment for pro cameras but a cf is a cf...... ask to try it first before buying... then let us know...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dk75:
As for CF1 or 2 all should play well because it have it's own on-card controler (processor and other things). So it only connects and send data - everything about addressing memory is done by on-card chips. So whathever it is 16GB or 100GB it doesn't matter.

Also I've didn't seen CF1 card bigger than 16GB - that why I've bought that one (Kingston - it was cheaper x133 16GB that I could find at the moment ;P ).

Second thing is whatever CF card could work in UDMA 0-6 mode with 4700 - that I don't known but all CF faster than x133 make this speed with UDMA mode.

So if we buy x233 CF card then it will work but... whatever it will be x233 speed or x133 speed that I don't know. Any one have x233 CF card and could do transfer speed test with say... "Pocket Mechanic"?

As for 4GB normal SD - where... I thoght that last normal SD was 2GB.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
normal 4GB card can buy on ebay, I have bought here in this hungarian webshop: www.xxldvd.hu

I have this card:

http://www.xxldvd.eu/index.php?page...ufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1

It cost less than 10 euro...:) its about 10 USD.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
yes there are 4 gig SD cards that are NOT SDHC. they are not standard but they do work..

as for speed of cards , it doesn't matter if they are capable of a faster speed . the 4700 will us them at its max speed anyway. so paying more for 133 or 233 is a waste of money.

http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/storage-card-forum/

check here for some good info on what cards work and dont work etc...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
I found this DS , its the inside chip 4700/21x battery s , perhaps this will be usefull for some developer . I see a lot of troubles in batts , here its how its works .http://rapidshare.com/files/193766328/DS2761.pdf.html
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dk75:
Has anyone succed with flashing any ROM under Vista Home Basic 32bit?

I'm trying and UniversalBootLoader claims that "System Windows can't connect to sellected device, path or file. You could not have permissions to connect to this element.", but in Device Manager "HP USB*Sync" is avilable.

I've tryed installing new MediaCenterDevice 6.1, I've patched USB drivers with drivers from "flyingarizona" site and nothing...

Fragging Vista...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
As soon as my wife gets off her machine I'll test it for you. Windows 7 works great along with Vista HP with SP1
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
I guess you already tried 'right-click' ::: run as administrator ::: ?

:D

Dirk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello

Im tryng to format my cards to FAT32 under Vivis Clean rom , but Its impossible , error 01F "something attached to device not functioning says" Pocket mekanik , under resco " Cant format , see if your sd card its locked" ....

Something knows what is wrong , rom dont have format command???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dk75:
Yes. My user have administrator rihgts and I tryed RMB's "Run as administrator" too. This same result.

I've tryed Bootloader.exe, BootLoader_GUI.exe, ROM in RAR, ROM in ZIP, ROM unpacked... all that on Vista Acer laptop.

Maybe I will try to install XP on my Linux BOX and try there... maybe - I don't want to thought.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
You should format it with windows: my computer/manage/devices.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello bulezs , under windows/Activesync CF and SD cards are "folders" not "devices" , can you explain me more ,thank you.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
Can you format the card via a card reader using Windows XP? Do you get the same messages? It may be an issue with your card.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
nope...plug the card with a reader to the PC with XP, and after recognized, right click on my computer / manage

and at there if I good remember, select Storage / Disk devices or something (I have hungarian windows..:D )

And there is in the list the SD card too, so you can format it whatever you want..:)

B.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Ok , boths, thanks , its ok ,with a card reader I have no problemm at all , my cards dont have any trouble , I can format under windows but 1) I dont have a CF card reader /writer ,only for Sd , 2) I want to know why I cant format under WM6.1 ,its my rom ?

Its clear that I can format under windows , with a card reader . I discover that cards in FAT 32 runs faster , I format only SD to fat 32 with noticiable difference .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
I think my SD card was formatted FAT32 originally and fortunatelly my CF card was preformatted, due I dont have a CF card reader either..:)

FYI: Copying the files (movies) with activesync is veeeeery sloooow...:)

B.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
By default my 2 g cf its fat16 , but the millon dolar answer its : CAN YOU FORMAT SD OR CF CARDS in the machine (ppc) with resco or pocket mechanik ? Im not .I suppoused that its a rom failure........isnt a problemm , I can format in windows xp with any cheap card reader....Its only a personal curiosity
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
Formatting SD or CF cards in hx4705...

I have used PocketMechanic some time ago to experiment with the same questions you just raised. Yes it can be done and it worked well for me as I recall; however, I did something dumb while formatting a new (expensive back then) 4GB SD card, and trashed it. Could not format after that in the PPC nor in my Notebook PC. I also trashed a smaller CF card .. with PocketMechanic .. though I don't recall anymore what I did wrong.

FrankK-F/ MI-USA

En Mohacsi vagyok, Bulesz!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Thank you FrankKF, I try in windows XP sys . Can you format in your PC ok with a card reader ?? , I will buy an inexpensive 23 to 1 card reader for this ....

I only have an SD card reader , I can format to fat 32 ok , now I need format CF card to Fat 32 I will do in XP
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
Én meg Veresegyházi! :)

So, back to the topic, I have red that formatting to FAT16 will boost the speed of the SD card...

I have tested it, and it was a bit slower than the default FAT32...so this tunuing is crap..:(

(tested with Transcend 4GB SD)

B.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
get yourself a card reader ,don't need a fancy one i think mine does 7 types.. but we only really need 2 ..SD and CF. you will save yourself time in the long run because active sync transfers are very slow... much quicker on a reader.

in the storage card forum on www.mobility.com there was a big discussion on fat16 vs fat32 etc... it all depends what type of files you are storing. if all you have is large files like 4 Meg mp3'3 or even bigger movies then format fat 32 with bigger allocution unit size. if you have lots of small files like notes etc then use a smaller than default setting.

if you right click on your "my computer" icon then choose "manage" when that starts choose "disk management" when that starts click on the drive/CF/SD card you want to format say yes to the warning about loosing any data...save if you need to first.... then you can choose fat (16) of fat32. the next drop down box should give you allocution unit size... inn k Byte i think.... try different sizes and see which is faster for you... cause it depends on the card and the type of file size mixture you have...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
16bit vs 32bit formatting

As I recall under 2GB ... 16 bit is OK, over should be 32. As for the other question ... speed vs file size, you can set the sector size to target your typical file size. On a solid state device however, this is likely only affect the storage efficiency .. smaller sectors waste less storage on the last sector of a file.

Frank K-F
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
fat16 vs fat32 formatting

As I recall under 2GB ... 16 bit is OK, over should be 32. As for the other question ... speed vs file size, you can set the sector size to target your typical file size. On a solid state device however, this is likely only affect the storage efficiency .. smaller sectors waste less storage on the last sector of a file.

Frank K-F

PS: Minimum sector size is related to the overall size of the device. This has to do with how many sectors the opsys can manage.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
thanks for so interesting data , I never have seen CF or SD cards as disks under W Xp "my PC , disk management" (activesync connected) only my PC hard disks ...

I have never been able to drive SD or CF s as disks , only as folders , also if I want to transfer a file from PC to Device when sys says "save file to..." "my device" not appears in the options ...only my desktop (not inside too ), hard disks etc ...but never "my device". I can only access to my device and inside folders via My PC from desktop.all what has been said under AS .

I have noticed a small increase speed when SD its Fat 32 ,(programs , files etc ) soon them comment that happens with the CF in 32 based in long time loading Mobile XT and inside big maps .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkafka:
GPRS settings

Hello,

I've tried to connect to GPRS network using mobile phone (bluetooth). But with this ROM it does not offer setting for GPRS connection. How to setup GPRS connection (e.g. APN name). There has been possibility to setup gprs by entering of extra dial string (+cgdcont= ..). WM6.1 does not offer theese setting in modem setup..

Thank you ..

Radek
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Try this perhaps solve your trouble.......but please edit your signature with your data , we dont know yours rom version .http://rapidshare.com/files/195560562/XDA_Developers_HP_BT_Phone_Manager.cab.html
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rkafka:
Thank you very much. I will try it..

(I'm now patching registry with extra init string).

Radek

I'm using Vivis Clean version , 20764.1.1.1
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DuperMan:
GPRS solution

Funny that you mention this rkafka because I actually just stumbled upon a solution to this issue today.

http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121979

DuperMan
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bardenas:
I had the same problem. I have read you solved it installing Vivi rom over Sanjay SL61V3 ROM.

Finally is that the solution? I mean... do you have reboot problems again, ten days later?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
I dont know the reason ;I supoused that its some about the 8 mg PP(sanjays) and the fat32 sys (vivis) but yes its true , I have Vivis working about 2 weeks with no troubles and lot of soft resets , be carefull with Oxi Hibernator , I killed from start menu , some times when you recall ram with it next time when you startup your 4700 frezzes .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
Still running with no issues with soft resets. Boots up fine. Seems stable and quick too so far.:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] TexNY:
I'm jumping in on this a little late, but here's my suggestions:

1) Buy a cheap multi-card reader for your PC. It will save you a lot of time in the future when you copy cab files to PDA. It's a waste of time to install from PC via Activesync as most apps install their crap onto your PC also, and that is very unnecessary.

2) If you want to format any disk (or SD/CF card) within XP, use suggestion given about Disk Management. It's under Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Disk Management, or run this: C:\WINDOWS\system32\diskmgmt.msc from Start, Run. Once there, if a card is inserted into a connected card reader, right-click on the drive in the bottom portion of Disk Management screen, and format.

3) If you want to format on PDA, SKTools has a built-in utility to do it. With SKTools, you don't even have to think.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bardenas:
Glad to hear that!! :D Many thanks to both for the great solution!! I also removed Oxios Hibernate from the PHM Tray to avoid more problems. Thank you very much!

I am sure this rom is the best so far. 36mb free program memory at startup (so now I can run iGO8 perfectly); IrDA, BT and Wifi working well (with wpa-fix) and very fast!!!

This is great! Thanks Vivi!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Thank you very much , Now I have a multireader and my Cf was formated to 32 , the only soft that I cant probe was SK to format , all others cant format inside ...no problem Now I have a bad cheap reader NOGANET(plase dont buy this) and a new beautifull CARRY (taiwan ) thats works fantastic All probes was finished ...

Thank you also for Win tips ......
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Im happy for you , other , change language in PIE its set to thai go to Western .See before goes off with task manager 3.1 if tmail or word its working , kill both processes , also remove poutlook from services in startup .If you want to make an experience install memmaid , change default folders for PIE , cookies , cache and history to any card ,and try tweak for maximun speed ( be carefull , quit oxios ) then tell me .....perhaps sometimes will frezzes at start up but try its dinamite if works for you.......

Plase link or instruccions for WPA fix I need and I dont know how
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Hackashaq:
Cool new hack for WiFi

Not sure if anyone else has figured this out, but the attached reg file will make iPAQwireless.exe the default wireless manager from the network icon and from the today wireless plugin.

Always bugged me that they used the MS wireles manager, not too useful!

Hope you enjoy it!

(remove .txt from the file after you download it)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Elis:
Hello, I want to know if connection WPA-PSK works, if or no?

Pleasae.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
Some pages back you will find the WPA hack.. I am using it well with the latest PDAVIET rom..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Elis:
WPA-PSK does not work, some solution?

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
try this link to the fix

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1559930&postcount=23
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ximinez84:
Extended battery problem on Sanjay's ROM

Hi all.

I'm currently using Sanjay's SL61V3 lite and it worked fine until recently. Last week I got a replacement, third-party, 2000mAh battery, but it seemed to be buggy. At exactly 34% the device just turned off. I took it back and they replaced it with a 3600 mAh battery. I fully charged it and began testing. And the results were bad. It seemed to drain much quicker than the original 1800 mAh battery. At first I thought I'd just take it back, get my money and forget about the whole thing or look for extended batteries from other manufacturers, but then I googled the problem, and it seems a lot of users had this problem when switching from WM2003 to WM5 back in 2005.

Now, when I got my hx4700 it had never been tampered with, it had the original rom and equipment. I then first got an original WM5 rom, which quickly pulled back by HP back in 2005 and flashed the device. When I noticed it was crap, I did some research and went straight for Sanjay's SL61V3 lite. I never did any other upgrades.

I know there is a XIP upgrade, that goes from 1.0 to 1.10 (my device still shows 1.0), that may be the solution to this problem, but the file is missing from the HP server. Is that really the solution? Will it not f**k up my device? Should I had installed the update before flashing with SL61V3? Is it not too late to do this now? If XIP update is not the case, what should I do apart from taking the battery back to the shop and getting my money back? Is there any way to enjoy extended battery life on my hx4700?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello , first of all I ever said that replacement batt was lotto , I have a lot of them thats works under one year not more others died for software troubles , (batt have an inside IC with eeprom , soft isnt the same as originals ) Also I have two new originals HP extended batt 3600 and one 1800 with no troubles at all .You can try with Camerun Sino batt its good , but not the same as original .Why dont upgrade to 6.1 rom and retest ....you will find very good roms in first page and link asociated flyingarizona with details .......

When no original batt fails died ,not discharge , you cant charge it anymore I dont experienced discharge troubles , yes for services that still working when you shut off . Try install battery status , this free soft inform you drain current Normal values are 115 ma when its in today screen , 480 ma working with WI FI , 300 ma working with BT , If your machine its working with filesys exe a few minutes you will see 300 ma for one or two minutes then reaches to 115 ma .If you have values from 115 to 200 ma in today screen your batt must have 4 or 5 hours of life (1800 ) more than 11 with 3600 . Overnight discharge its about 2% (if you dont have any soft working in background ie: tmail , activesync , repllog etc ......see this...)I dont know under the "beautifull" WM5 by HP
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ximinez84:
I'm am running Sanjay's up-to-date WM6.1 lite and I would like to exhaust all other options, before reflashing the ROM.

As for Battery Status, do you mean this:

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-batterystatus-v0-03-201.html ?

It seems to be XDA Neo specific.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bardenas:
Well I don´t use PIE. I terminated pword but tmail didn´t appeared, and poutlook removed too. Soft reset and... it sticks on boot screen again!!!! :(

Now in the second one (without number). I didn´t run oxios... :confused:

This time hard reset has solved it, but I have to reconfig it so I will flash Sanjay rom (SL61V3.zip) again anyway. One more time!!!!

For the wpa-fix, bulesz has the solution: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3257845&postcount=1669

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Edit: I have flashed Sanjay rom and now "clearing data " after a hard reset goes off for itself like with the vivi rom. Is normal? I didn´t say that the first time I flashed vivi rom, I had algasystem rom. This rom is 128 mb too.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Not Neo specific , Im using in my 4700 with all roms that I installed .

http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm#Download or try other very usefull site for us PPCWxxxx you will found it in first page ITS FREE , then you can customize with SMCLOCK2 or other theme as you like but first installed you have all data in screen for test pourpouses , pay attention with drain current these value gives you an important data about the machine works , in first place how much time its filesys exe working , When filesys its working you will see about 300 ma drain , if not 115 /130 with screen on at midle bright without any other soft working .Batt dont reaches for itself . About your 34% , do you have any soft installed as Rino Code today panel??These soft limits the lower % of batt at specific value
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ximinez84:
I have iLauncher 3.1. The original battery and the extended one I've got (3600) all go down to almost 0% before the device shuts down. It was only the 2000 mAh that had this problem, but I took it back and got the 3600 mAh instead.

[edit] I have tried BatteryStatus and my PDA's power consumption NEVER goes below 350 mA, even with the backlight off, on the original HP 1800 mAh battery, and stays between 400 and 500 mA on the non-HP 3600 spare. There are no resident programs, except BatteryStatus (that I know of) and I've let it run for some time just to make sure it's not the filesys.exe issue. Any ideas?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
well , first step , check if filesys its working in task manager , you will see ie: 98% cpu usage ....then check if some other service its active with high CPU drain . If you have pocket mechanik you will see in the upper screen CPU activity (same as osciloscope) , normal its 4 % or 5% .. Work with task manager "show cpu usage " for discover services or soft that may still working with high cpu usage .I think that you will discover some extra activity that makes your machine drains 500ma in stby , isnt normal , these value its usuall for Wi Fi but not in today screen ..Good Luck