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[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
The OP hasn't been updated in nearly half a year now. I suspect that there are many in the same boat as you are. In reality this thread should be archived and closed since there is no development whatsoever. If there comes a time when temp root is obtained a new thread should be opened. All the big players seem to have moved on.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sasory:
I also sell my Pixel. I will buy a new Pixel 3, or 1+ 6T, or Mi Mix 3. It's a shame that we can't unlock the bootloader!! I love my Pixel 2XL so much
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] twinkyz1979:
It seems to me some people are still active in this thread so it's not dead just the person who started it hasn't updated anything in a while.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Exactly. So close it and start one that is meaningful and active if needed. As of now there is no possibility of temp root. When there is we can start all over again. They won for now. Lick your wounds and move on.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bartoszkasprzyk0906:
Hello. There is someone able to help me unlock the bootloader, of course I will pay. I have verizon Pixel 2xl

Wysłane z mojego Pixel 2 XL przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
After 142 pages over 10 months, with no successful exploit for root found, I think you just may be out of luck my friend. But hey, "Hope forever springs eternal" :cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] djmouse:
I'm going to veriziom because I took the deal ,buy one get one so I have two XL2s,wife and myself but my bill I'm paying for both idk,that's why I'm going in,I'm going to ask about OEM unlock and if it's a matter of them releasing the HOLD after having 75 percent paid off or 100 like I've read about with some other phones.I want an answer if not,if they say it's Google were getting on the phone with Google in store on speaker.My bill is over 300 a month with 3 lines,it's crazy and I can't do what I want with my phone.sorry for rant but I'll post my outcome.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] headcreepz:
Unless you have something to contribute....quit posting what we already know
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] infamousvincci:
Wow. Attitude.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Eh, he's just butthurt because he bought a Verizon device and no one has been able to unlock the bootloader. I can understand how he feels, but Verizon locking bootloaders is old news. If this thread teaches anything, it's that sensible XDAers don't buy Verizon devices unless they are a masochist or looking for a challenge.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mkhader:
i recommend you all to sell your pixel 2 xl Verizon variant phones now before the prices go down, and buy instead a phone from google directly.

everything now is beautiful and unlocked , installing mods and roms everyday without hassles and black magic
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
[MENTION=2461175]mkhader[/MENTION]: Not really supposed to mention buying an unlocked model in this thread, but at this point I would say it's the best option available. Like I told people months ago, Verizon learned from the Galaxy S4 and other devices where a bootloader exploit was found and really locked this one down.

There may yet be an exploit that hasn't been discovered, but it will likely be another year before anyone finds it, if the track record of the Verizon Pixel XL is any indicator.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jmartin72:
This will not help anyone, but I'm going to post this anyway. First off, I want to say that I believe Verizon has the ability to Lock, and unlock the bootloader and here is why. I ordered my OG Pixel the day of the event. After a couple months of using it, the speaker stopped working, at which point I called Google, and they had me send it back. I got a shinny new one from Google. I inserted my SIM card, booted it up, and what do you know I was able to unlock my bootloader. I played around with the very few ROM's that were out there at the time. After a while, I got board and went back to stock, and re-locked my bootloader, but the option to unlock was still there. I also want to add that after getting this new phone, when I would go to the Verizon website to look at my devices it changed from saying that I had a Google Pixel to Unknown device. A few month went by, and even after the monthly updates, my option to unlock the bootloader was still there, and from time to time, I would unlock, and flash a new ROM that would come out, but I always eventually went back to stock and re-locked the bootloader. One day I decided to up my data plan, and I went onto the Verizon page to change plans. It would not let me change my plan on the website, and instructed me to call customer service. I did this, and after telling the Rep. what I wanted to do, and what was happening, I was put on hold. After about 5 minutes the Rep came back on and said I was all set with the new plan, asked me if I needed anything else, I said no, and we hung up. After I hung up, I went back into the Verizon website, and the first thing I noticed was that It no longer said "Unknown Device" , it actually said Google Pixel again, and showed a picture of the phone like before I sent my other one back. After seeing this, I went into settings, and what do you know. My option to unlock the bootloader was grayed out. Whatever they did caused my option to unlock the bootloader to go away. I called them back, and explained what had happened, and told them, I wanted them to put everything back the way it was. Of course I was told they didn't know what had happened, and they didn't know how to put it back. I was never able to unlock it after that, and I have since moved on to the Pixel 2 XL. Verizon is definitely the one that locks the bootloader. Pretty sure that they can unlock it, but also sure they won't.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] djmouse:
It's 100 percent verizion,Google sends there phones unlocked from them.The only good out of this is Google sends unlocked phones,probably creates what verizion wants or since there partners ina sense,says lock all verizion units see if anyone can find a back door.I don't know if anyone with the skills has actually tried,but at least is shows there taking security more serious witch is good,in it's own way.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kitila:
Google creates the operating system then sends the operating system out to all major carriers to allow the major carriers to install their bloatware and all their dirty dealings on to Google's operating system. once the carriers in the manufacturers do all their bloatware and put all their dirty hands into a software it is didn't sent back to Google and Google then approves it and then Google sends it out over the air.. so at the end of the day Google had to approve of the locked bootloader Google has the ability to unlock the bootloader since it is Google's software
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
This is true of most phones, but not the Nexus or Pixel devices. If Verizon had modified the P2XL firmware, Verizon would be hosting the firmware package. However, if you head over to Google's download pages for Nexus and Pixel devices, you will find the current firmware package available for the P2XL. There are two variants there. One is for Telstra devices, but the other is for the rest of the world, including Verizon. I don't recall instances of Google Store-purchased devices using Verizon SIMs ending up bootloader locked. Thus the bootloader included within the firmware package is not locked.

The problem people on this thread are having is they are unable to find the trigger that locks the bootloader. I can only speculate here, but I think during the "checking for updates" process in Android setup, the setup routine transmits the IMEI to Google, which then compares it to a list of Verizon devices. If a match is found, either a command to encrypt the bootloader is sent, or an encrypted bootloader is silently installed in place of the unencrypted one. Setup than continues. This ability to directly update the device during setup has existed since at least the Nexus 6. Prior to that Samsung had a similar setup that pre-installed specific apps based upon the region code of the device, but the Samsung setup was easily modified by changing the region code.

The net result is a device with a locked bootloader. And yes, Google did agree to the locked bootloader, as it likely was part of the sales agreement between Google and Verizon. That agreement likely also precludes them from ever unlocking the bootloader.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] slogar25:
Unfortunately I believe this is the case as well.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
This seems to be the going theory ATM. Just to clarify the above post by [MENTION=2807229]Strephon Alkhalikoi[/MENTION] it's not the bootloader that Google / Verizon locks or unlocks but the toggle that allows it. I'm sure that was understood but it jumped out at me.

This idea has been given credence in the past day or two when Google was able to turn on battery saver just by flipping a switch server side. And this is not even at bootup, it's while your phone was active. So how difficult would it be to simply gray out and make inactive a toggle? It must be an identifier on the device that a server will check against. Seeing what Google did yesterday I do believe we're out of options. The only thing Verizon does is tell them which devices to lock. They have no other input imo. Once your device is in that database you are SOL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] infamousvincci:
Someone posted this in g+ guys. Idk if it works or it will help you guys.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] lucky_strike33:
Nope it doesn't work
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hexlay:
Anyone tried disabling apps in recovery, without phone even entering setup?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
I actually did think it was the bootloader itself, but the clarification is welcome. TBH I didn't even think of Google locking out the toggle, as I haven't read the article about battery saver turning itself on...yet.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Here it is, at least one of the threads. Not happy campers out there. https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...ses_power_saving_mode_turning_itself/e5xl907/
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
[MENTION=2659927]bobby janow[/MENTION]: I read that after I posted. Definitely not a happy crowd. But at the same time they don't have many choices, unless they want to track down a Chinaphone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
I know it's crazy out there. But to bring it full circle, it seems like an easy task for Google to lock out the OEM switch on any device of their choosing. I even think they are doing it to their own refurbs but I can't be certain of that. Perhaps it was a test to see how many complained. At some point bl unlock, even on a Google device, will be history, imo.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] djmouse:
I agree,but verizion had to make the request for the locked OEM toggle so i blame verizion,I was on ATT for almost 20 years I bought the HTC ONE A9,it was the same deal except if you wanted the option you had to request it on HTC site.why can't this be the same doesn't make sense.The only way you get the bloat is if you setup the phone with the verizion sim inserted,I factory reset about once a week just to keep my phone clean idk OCD anyway I set it up without my sim in and just do the my Verizon app to pay my bill.i haven't made it to the store yet to discuss my bill and OEM toggle but soon.So my IMEI is definitely locked to verizion,I have my theories but I'd be here for days.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Blame Verizon? I'm sorry what exactly do you mean? To me all they did was what they said they would do, lock the bootloader so corporate networks could buy the device without worry. There is no bloat that you can't delete. Those days are over as well. As for your IMEI locked to Verizon, that's not entirely correct. Your IMEI is registered with Verizon whether or not you have a VZW bought or Google bought phone. Nothing is locked. Your IMEI is listed as a VZW phone and as such you will not be allowed to unlock the bl no matter the provider. I hope I hope this is clear. As for them OEM unlocking your device... lol. Not a chance. But I do understand your frustration. Next time just...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
[MENTION=5002991]djmouse[/MENTION]: A more appropriate example than HTC is Lenovo / Motorola. They offer all the devices and accessories they make on their website for purchase. A device purchased from them will have a locked bootloader. However, all their phones except ones with the "Droid" branding can be unlocked by sending a request to Lenovo. "Droid" branded phones are permanently locked to Verizon and cannot be unlocked.

As to the bootloader unlock toggle, good luck with that. Verizon's stance on bootloader unlocking is crystal clear, and can be read in its entirety here. For those not wishing to click on the link, in short Verizon does not want "unapproved" firmware on their network (i.e. custom ROMs and mods) and doesn't want their help desk clogged with calls from idiots who have no business rooting their devices in the first place.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] digitalmorphinex:
"From idiots who.."

Go **** yourself.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Don't be a ****. No one is an idiot here.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] digitalmorphinex:
I didn't say that. He did. Which is why I said what I said. No one here is an idiot.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
And I never said anyone here was. Because we wouldn't be clogging a help desk clamoring for help. We'd fix the problem ourselves.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] digitalmorphinex:
A few posts up I said how I talked to Verizon and Google support about this.. which falls into what you said. So okay. Indirectly.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
To be blunt, the bulk of the 8 million members of this site shouldn't be rooting anyway. But that's another discussion for another time.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Truer words haven't been spoken here. Thanks.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] digitalmorphinex:
What people decide to do is nobodies business. Including yours or Bobby's. You started off as a rookie just as much as that bulk of 8 million members. You and your buddy are not above anybody.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Ok let's drop this. It never ends well. No reason to criticize what anyone thinks if there is no benefit to the community.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Snowflake, your comments have been noted and given the due consideration they deserve: none.

Last word is yours, as I'm done with you.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] digitalmorphinex:
True story.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mrkhigh:
To be blunt the majority of the users here have had full control over their PC's for years. They know the disadvantages of root. They've (including us) have accidently broke their windows and Linux builds before Android was even thought of.

Let's not act supperior. There is only one way to learn and that is to do.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
This statement is demonstrably false. Go to any device forum on this site other than a Nexus or Pixel, take a look at various development threads and see the multitude of comments about how X or Y isn't working and pleading for a fix. A user on this site that has had "full control over their PCs for years" would already know how to generate a log for the developer to use in troubleshooting. They wouldn't need to have their friggin' hand held over something that is supposed to be basic knowledge on this site.

I don't have to act superior. They need to smarten up and start playing the game the way it was meant to be played.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] twinkyz1979:
For all of you who are supposed to be "Senior Members" you sound like a bunch of whiney little babies bickering back and forth. All of you need to grow up!

This is a community that is supposed to help each other not be little people for lack of knowledge. It is very simple if you mess something up and can't get it fixed yeah feel bad for them but everyone here knows the risk and if you don't then you shouldn't be here.

Yeah I bought a VZW Pixel 2 XL in hopes someone with more knowledge than me may find a way to achieve root. Maybe I was wrong for believing that but guess what it is me that feels the pain of my own choice no one else.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] micmars:
You're right...no one should blame you for the childlike hope you innocently reposed in others.

Negativity springs from the naive belief that lecturing others on how they should think or write is the grownup thing to do.

I'd avoid the latter and treasure the former.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ncrawler:
Children

Tomato Tamato :confused:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hexlay:
Instead of following thread and providing solutions, you fight for what again? perhaps create a whatsapp group and "fight" there? people here look for solutions, instead i see situation where i need to prepare myself a popcorn !
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] micmars:
Indeed, popcorn and a lager.

It's five o'clock somewhere.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
Close enough for me in Auckland or Sydney! :good::cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] :
*yawn* still no news on unlocked bootloader for pixel 2 xl? I accidentally bought one only to find out OEM unlocked is disabled (and buyer: VRZ from some imeichecker) when I was about to flash a custom ROM. So so sad....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jjj551280jjj:
For anyone who had success using my method- if you flash a bootloader update using the ?temporary? bootloader permissions it's no longer temporary, but I'm not a senior member and you all just want to bicker, your lost cause attitudes is why you're getting lost cause results HAPPY FLASHING!

<Update: I forgot to reiterate, I used download mode to switch the network mode to RUIM using cdma tool, if that's too hard I can help you, unless you were here talking down on people who "shouldn't be modding in the first place" because everyone starts somewhere, ?but nobody deserves help?>
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] slogar25:
I think you might need to re post or at least re write your method as it has gotten lost in the bickering back and forth.

I'm not actually sure of anyone having success with your method. But I am willing to try again. Also, I'll have to look back but I don't think you outlined the bootloader steps and the cdma tool instructions as mentioned here
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mrkhigh:
What he said....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hogyoku:
I'm in the same boat as you. Wil probably end up selling the device
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TonikJDK:
Great idea, I would suggest a separate thread. One that focuses on your method and leaves behind the mess of this thread.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] oryanh:
Has anyone tried this? I guess i will give it a go this evening...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] shooterlgk:
Is this the same method that u first posted?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jjj551280jjj:
Yes
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] b00ster23:
Okay, you leave off with go into the bootloader... Now what command is it that you think is going to work to unlock the bootloader. Please elaborate, and would be great if you would post video as a tutorial and proof
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jjj551280jjj:
I can't offer " proof" as this is my only device to record from, I'm not wanting to collect the bounty and will openly tell you it's on an *if-it-works-for-you* basis, use the standard fastboot flashing unlock, it doesn't show in the bootloader that it is unlocked, but doesn't produce an error message when you run the command. You can then flash factory images, or just the bootloader portion from a firmware image package and boom, it's permanent. You may or may not need to edit your nam using cdma tool, I can't find a link as to why that would have helped, if you need help doing that part, message me, as I'm willing to help those who aren't talking down on those needing help
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] b00ster23:
So you found a way to run a command with no error, but it doesn't do anything? Is that correct?

And you've flashed a factory image too? And you've flashed a BL image too?

I'm just looking for information here... I'm not talking down. Sounds like you take facts neagtively... Probably thinking I'm committing a hate crime too... SMH
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jjj551280jjj:
Yes, no, yes, yes. It allows you to temporarily flash until you flash a bootloader image, I'm not taking facts negatively, I'm not an Android developer primarily, I work with Windows as my main beast, this thread has widely turned me off to the community involved however and I think the amount of negativity in this threads is why no major developer is helping unlock our bootloader. I only want to do this to spite Verizon, however there are people here who don't deserve the help they are getting. At this point, my phone is unlocked. I'm sorry it's not working out so easily for others, but it seems to me only the fresh modders in these threads have the working attitude to actually solve problems. Don't be arrogant when trying to ask for assistance.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] b00ster23:
Okay so I gotcha, I think. Essentially you've found a way to flash a 'factory' image with unlocking a BL, correct?

So how exactly did you unlock your BL? Didn't you say you ran the BL command, and it didn't do anything, but also didn't error?