yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chn110:
I tried it on a 64M RAM 4700, restored backup from Alkor RC build. Worked fine, very fast and stable. Highly recommended.

The one thing that still does not work is Bluetooth PAN. It will connect to my 3G phone and gets IP address/DNS address/gateway. But after that no packets flow. So far I haven't found a ROM that has a working PAN. I can use WiFi to connect to 3G phone but then the batteries of the 4700 and 3G phones burns out in less than two hours. Was hoping BT PAN could save the day.

Also Bluetooth A2DP headphone works only if you don't use WiFi. If WiFi is on (streaming music from internet) then the sound gets broken up more than half of the time. It's as if WiFI and the BT share the same radio tranceiver and only one device can use it at a time.

Aside from these, it's all good. You can run Playstation game on a simlutor(fpsece) almost at full speed.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
chn110,

I tried the latest Alkor ROM finally and works great.

I'm not sure if it's a good practice to restore a different ROM built over an other. That might be the cause of your problems.

Because I'm able to use BT PAN with my Samsung 3G phone and works great and fast.

I'm also able to use BT with GPS and WIFI web surfing at the same time. But haven't tried what you did.

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chn110:
Charles, I tried BT PAN after hard reset as well as reflashing, without installing any software. But neither case worked. Could you share the steps you did to set up BT PAN? Maybe I missed something. Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ddetty:
Alkor ROM 21054 Hard Reset

Interesting event this morning. When I turned on the 4700, it came up in hard reset mode. All apps and memory wiped clean! In all the ROMS I've tried on this device this has never happened. Anyone else had a similar experience.

Dave

iPaq 4700 with Alkor 21054 (no apps) 128M RAM
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ryahp:
I can't remember what ROM I was using but I had a similar occurrence once, too, while I was on a journey. Very nasty, because I didn't have any backups with me... In my case the main-board (64MB) was in probably in a bad condition altogether, because it was one repaired after a water accident.

I recommend carrying around a Backup of the device's on-board memory on a storage card.

cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
chn110,

first you need a phone that support a phone with Internet sharing like a Windows mobile phone.

Steps:

1- Pair your phone with your HX4700 by turning ON Bluetooth, then opening Bluetooth manager, then NEW and Explore a new device. From there acknowledge de pairing process. After you should see at least 2 services available, dial-up and Network Acess point, get both. Follow steps till the end.

2 - Go to your phone and under Start, select Internet sharing. Choose BT Pan and then connect.

3- On your HX4700, go into Bluetooth Manager, chosse Network Acess Point and hold the icon with your stylus until you get the menu were you see Connect as first choice then connect.

Now you should be able to Connect and surf the web.

Good luck and let me know if any problems.

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dk75:
It works with Android powered HTC Magic.

You need unofficially rooted ROM (you will loss varranty) with WirlessTether thought.

I've managed to share WiFi internet throught BT to hx4700.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] superlaziale75:
Hi guys,

It is the first time form me in this forum.

I'm from italy and I have to speak in english every day for work but as you can see probably it is better that I'll try to find another work or to convince the world to learn italian.

After to years in sleeping mode I resumed my hx4700 become unuseful after the official hp upgrade to wm5.

Now I upgrade to WM6 and it works fine but I'd like to install the alkor 21054 but the link that I found:

(cut)winmobile.us/hpmain.html

has a damaged file. Is there a saint soul that can post a functioning link to download the file.

Thank you in advance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Geminidad:
Hey Super,

I just downloaded that ALKOR-version as well. When did you get the error?

Grtz,

Geminidad
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] superlaziale75:
Hi,

I downoladed the zip file three time and the uncompressed file os21054 is only 50Mb. The other os image are always 130Mb.

I supposed that could normal but when I try to install using the included Bootloader the process stops at 38%.

I tryed four time but with the same results. So I supposed that could be damaged.

Moreover 50Mb is the 38/100 of 130 Mb and I think that this is a strange coincidence.

Is it correct?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Geminidad:
Hi Super,

From flashing the previous ALKOR-version (build 20769) I know it takes a while to load. The instructions do say "You may need to put on a pot of coffee" :).

I am going to flash my own HX4700 with this version sometime this weekend and will let you know the outcome.

In the meanwhile you can also contact the owner of the site (click on the link at the bottom of the page on the site), I know from experience that DPDURST is pretty good at following up on his mail.

What is the version you currently have loaded on your HX4700?

grtz,

Geminidad
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] superlaziale75:
Hi Geminidad,

I tested the version:

HP iPAQ PPC WM6.1 Rom build 20769.1.4.5 RC2.2 - Alkor release candidate 2.2

but I have found some problem on the WI-FI connection (WPA-PSK), I tryed to install the patch downloaded from the forum but the problem persist.

So I downgraded to the:

HP iPAQ PPC WM6 Rom - 6.0.7.0 Rel 3 - Very stable build

because the owner explicitly say "Very stable build" but I have the same Wi-Fi problem also after the patch.

So I thought that is better that I try to install the 21054 and concentrate my mind on this one, solving a problem for each time.

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Hx4700 64Mb 2Gb Sd - 1Gb Cf
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] superlaziale75:
Hi Geminidad,

I forgot (sorry) to say that any your kind suggestion after the test will be really appreciated.

Thx

Superlaziale75
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] testmail001:
Same here. Bootloader stops at 38%. Seems that the rom file (nb0) is broken (too small).

I guess I'll have to try some earlier version.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] worby9:
The site is offline!

Hi, I`ve tryed today your site and say is OFFLINE!, could you tell me when re-open the site?

I need to upgrade my hx4700 from original wm2003 ROM to wm6.1; thanks.

I`ve downloaded the 6.1 ROM, thanks!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
Don't worry about the 38%. I thought that it was a problem but i did a hard reset 2 times as usual and....Tada!!! It works.

It's fast!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
38% is normal for the 50MB ROM image. It is just a compressed version and the GUI bootloader progress bar was set for 130MB images. I usually wait say 5 minutes after GUI reports 38% and then do the hard resets. Had no issues. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] superlaziale75:
Yes!

The learned lesson is hope and trust!

Alkor 21054 installed and it works fine.

thx to everyone.

Superlaziale75

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Hx 4700 - 64Mb Ram - SD 2Gb - CF 1 Gb now with alkor 21054
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chn110:
Tried with my HTC Fuze/WMWifiRouter as well as Windows XP as PAN servers. Still couldn't get it to work. It connects fine but no packet flows after that. Also flashed the official WM5 ROM, same result. But when I flashed the original wm2003 ROM, BT PAN works without a hitch.

I am really puzzled by this. Obviously wm6.1 BT PAN works fine in some cases. So is the problem in wm6.1 BT PAN client software? PAN server? certain client/server combination? or certain client software/BT chip combination?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
SPB Mobile Shell 3.5

Can anyone with the 128 upgrade let me know if the SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 can activate the bluetooth. I'm using the latest alkor rom but can't activate BT from SPB 3.5. From the ipaq wireless mgr it works fine.

Cheers.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Quackie:
Hi,

I got the message 38% message. However, when I did the hard reset. I got the "Clearing Data, PLease wait. message" forever. How long do you have to wait? Did I miss something? BTW, I used the alkor 21054.

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
Always do 2 HR's because the first one will just sits there.

Cheers.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Geminidad:
Hi Super,

I was combining a PC system reinstall with the Alkor 21054 flash and it took me a bit longer than expected.

The 21054 ROM flashed just fine, everything went (again) as per the instructions dpdurst has on his site up to and including the soft reset. After pressing calendar a message appears that stays forever. As spetrie mentioned, just give it five minutes and soft reset, worked for me.

I do have a WIFI connection issue but seems to be a known one. I'll try solving it later.

Enclosed please find the log of the install. If your screen looks familiar than don't forget to follow step 5 of the instructions and finish with a soft reset.

grtz

Geminidad
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Geminidad:
Hi Super,

Just loaded the WM6 WPA-PSK Fix onto my HX4700, installed it an WIFI is working fine. The connection feels as if it is a bit more sensitive than before but that may just be me or my access point :).

Sorry I cannot be of more help.:(

grtz,

Geminidad
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] superlaziale75:
Hi Geminidad,

Thank you very much for you support.

I installed the new ROM following the instruction and I did not care for the 38%

Probably the smaller size it is due to release compiling (instead debug).

I executed a clear reset and after 3 minutes I executed a new clear reset after few seconds the HX4700 resume with installed WM6.1. I did not found the hp black theme (very dark and cool) of the previous version (RC 2.2) but now I have the Alkor 21054 installed.

To solve the problem of the wi-fi PSK I installed the patch and now it works fine.

I have just an issue on wifi but I think that it do not depend on the ROM actually I'm investigating (for the benefit of the community, when/if I solve the problem I'll update):

1) PDA can't connect to the work AccessPoint (WPA-PSK-TKIP), I'm the admin.

2) PDA can connect to home AccessPoint (WPA-PSK-TKIP), but can't surf on the web, I'm the admin

3) PDA can connect to the neighbor AccessPoint (WPA-PSK-TKIP) and can surf on the web fine, my neighbor is not so skilled I'm the admin.

SL75
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ddetty:
Battery Dies Unexpectedly

Since installing the latest Alkor ROM, I've had a few battery discharge problems. Overnight, with the 4700 turned off (no wifi access, no BT, not charging) the main battery totally dies. Of course the backup has been dead for a long time.

I'm trying to understand if the issue is the Alkor ROM or is it just an old battery. This is the original battery that came with the 4700 when I got it 5 or 6 years ago. Anyone else having similar problems?

Thanks,

Dave

Alkor ROM 21504; 128M Ram, 1G SD, 2G CF
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Umpal:
Of course it is NOT the ROM (whatever it could be). I also have the original battery. Take this battery out and give it 5V directly from a charger (just connect two cables if you don't have something that could let you do that without exercise but BE SURE ABOUT POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE). Give it couple of shorts for up to 3 seconds. I've tried it many times with many batteries and it usually works (unless the battery is really, really completely dead. In this case I do not recommend made in China substitution because I bought one and it is worst that my old one ;). What I could recommend is this one (not necessarily from this buyer and this price - just to give you an exact brand): http://cgi.ebay.com/BATTERY-FIT-HP-...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3efca3caae)

Hope it will help,

Peter

[Update]

I've found a battery that looks identical like my original old HP and it is even cheaper than the one I've mention above. Take a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HP-IPAQ-180...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item45ef5f739a
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ddetty:
My battery seems to charge up just fine. Just some random time days or weeks later, I'll have a dead battery again.

Dave
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
Dave,

The Rom is fine, I have the original battery and hold its charge more than a week. Do you have application that might kick in sometimes?

Anyway release 2.2 is the best so far from Alkor and does not suffer of battery drain issue.

Regards,

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dk75:
For some reason alarm is waking up screen at the midnight (there is no alarm set for the midnight).

You must carefull set power management so it could turn it of thereafter.

This featur I've observed with Alkor rc1 and Vivi 20764.1.1.1 clean (pretty much all the ROM's that I've had ;P )
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DavidinCT:
Still looking for 6.5.x rom for the HX4700....is there one out there ? Still a very sweet device and someone must have a good 6.5 rom for it...

Please help if you can !!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Umpal:
Haven't heard about it but me too would like to have 6.5 in my hx.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
WM6.5 ROMs for hx4700 does exist. :cool:

Alkor made Alpha WM6.5 build 5.2.28205.5.3.3 in Russian.

I also do have WM6.5 on my hx4700 running it from mid January.

Recently updated build to 5.2.21892.5.0.89

Seems to run fine, but there are still a lot things to do to tune it up.

+ Some photos :)

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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DavidinCT:
Oh, please post a link, I would love to try this on my HX4700 ASAP !!!!!!!! (I hate 6.1 now after running 6.5 on my phone)

Does it run in VGA mode ? (the HX4700 is a VGA device but, never used as one)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ddetty:
I've been running the same applications for several ROMs. None of the apps I use should be 'kicking' in at intermittent times. If it were just a battery drain that wouldn't be too bad. But recently the 4700 did a hard reset then last night a 'partial' hard reset that left the battery almost depleted. I reinstalled the Alkor 21054 ROM and I'll start lookikng at what software may be creating a conflict. This wouldn't be the first ROM I've tried that wasn't completely compatible with the software I like to use.

Are you saying the Alkor RC2.2 is better than 21054? I thought 21054 was his latest refined ROM? Except for the recent resets and battery issue, I've been pretty pleased with 21054.

Dave

hx4700 128MB RAM; 2G CF; 1G SD

Calligrapher 8.5; eReader 3.0; Pocket Informant 9; Pocket Quicken 2.5; Calc98; ListPro 5.0; eWallet 7.0; Opera Mobile 10 Beta; Recordian 2.0; BibleReader 3.7; PowerTap
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bbz_Ghost:
Ok, you can't go posting pics like that and not point people in the direction of that ROM. That just ain't right. :D

I just got an hx4700 in great shape just yesterday, factory WM2003SE on it, slapped the Alkor 21054 WM6.1 on it and now I'm trying out the khozura WM6.1 with the mods by ramsses (1g). The Alkor ROM seems a bit more fluid; the khozura one gives me the impression the filesys.exe issue is kicking in at times, it just stops cold and doesn't respond for several seconds even though I'm not doing anything that should give it that pause.

So, more info about that WM6.5 is most appreciated, even if it's just some testing build I'd love to give it a go, as most anyone around here with an hx4700 would.

As for the hx4700 itself, I'm sorta satisfied. I've been using Axims for years now and, I guess I just got enamored of 'em, they're rock solid dependable units. I'm irritated with the hx4700 in terms of video playback because I have a ton of rips I made or acquired, typically about 700MB per movie, done with Xvid, fairly decent quality and the X50v/X51v play them without breaking a sweat - and I set those Axims to run at 208 MHz speed and the videos still play without issues at full framerate.

Take one of those same videos and try to play it on the hx4700 with that damned ATI Imageon chip in it and they stutter so much it's not even funny. Damned shame because I do like the hx4700 but, I'll probably sell it since I can't get reliable decent video playback of "standard" video clips. And heavens, if I try to play something encoded with h.264/AVC, forget it... bleh.

Anyway, let's have some info on that WM6.5, pretty please. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
There are no links for my ROM yet.

VGA mode? Do you think RealVGA - if so, then no.

ROM is not available yet.

I'm the creator of it.

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DavidinCT:
How soon (as I cross my fingers for a "soon" time frame)will we see it ????? I've been looking for a long time, even if it is buggy as heck, I'll still take it to try...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
Dave my bad, I was talking about 21054 beign the best.

Sorry for the confusion.

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ntba:
Hey guys I'm a total newb, I just got my 4700 and am just beginning, I have 20154 installed but I can't seem to get the wifi to work. I have the two patches but I'm clueless as to what to do with them. I've searched and played around with it with no luck. The two registry files I tried importing with PHM and I've tried moving the wpa patch into windows directory with no avail? I THINK I've done a soft reset (where you just push the reset button) and it still wont work? I think I'm doing something wrong here, anything would be great :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bbz_Ghost:
Well, here's a tip: instead of saying "the wifi won't work" or something similar, try being more specific in the how and why of it not working and then perhaps someone can help.

Are you having an issue with WEP connections, WPA, WPA-PSK, etc etc? Does the Wi-Fi work at all, even on a totally open unsecured AP? That sort of thing...

Personally, I've flashed most every WM6 and WM6.1 ROM there is these days and not one of them has ever given me any issues with Wi-Fi. I do tend to use only WEP here at home, however; I keep a close eye on connections to my router so it's a non-issue with people trying to leech, that simply doesn't happen and WEP is enough to keep casual people out. Having said that, I may switch the router over to WPA later and do some testing to see what's up.

Just upgraded to a 50 Mbps cable connection (from 18 Mbps) and loving it... ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
Woah...Yeah!!! 6.5!! Is your 6.5 rom optimized for 64mb devices. I got back my 4700 from PPCTechs 2 weeks ago now with 128mb. It should run nice!! I'll be looking out for your rom. If you need a tester...I'm all yours;)

Cheers.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DavidinCT:
Come on, someone release a 6.5 rom for the HX4700...Going nuts here with 6.1....PLEASE ????? (or if you can, give directions on how I can create my own)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ntba:
I appreciate the tip and all but I was just summing up what has been going on in the past 100 or so posts and few separate threads by many users and I assumed that it would have been common knowledge as to the type of wifi problem the 4700's are experiencing in regards to it not connecting via wifi be it WEP or WPA. My issue is not one of not knowing why or how its not working, my question is one of how I would go about installing the two patches that are required to repair said Wifi issue with 21054.

Yes I am using WPA, and I did get it to connect once or twice prior to other AP's, I've done my reading and now have found two wonderful zip file sets, one which is a registry patch and another which is a cert and a cab file, which both need to be installed to fix this problem. I unfortunately am not too familiar with PPC and have gotten one for the sole purpose to learn more about them especially on the development side and therefore am having difficulties.

I found phm to install the registry entry but I cannot figure out how to do it and the second patch I've got I've installed the cert but the cab file will not install properly.

I know this will fix my problem as others have had the same issues and have had them resolved once these patches were installed, I unfortunately do not have the experience they do with their devices and need some assistance installing them.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DIMITRINET:
Spiaatie, release your roms please.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
Hey Spiaatie, Will your rom include the phone support?? I know that it's not really necessary on the 4700 but the cf socket kinda opens it up for us. I have an rtm8000 that I use with running voice gsm. It gets the job done but it's not perfect. It was made for wm5.

Good luck with the rom!!

Cheers.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dimeotane:
upgrading from WM 2003

Does anyone know if it's possible to install the ROM upgrade by writing the os21054.nb0 to an SD card? I tried writing the file to an SD card and pressing the buttons to put the Hx4700 into bootloader screen, but it didn't detect the image and start loading it.

I tried using the cradle method but the bootloadergui program said it was unable to find/detect the device on USB . Does activesync need to be installed first to install the ROM through the cradle?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
Yes it needs active sync to start the connection.

INSTRUCTIONS

on this page are the instructions.....in a pdf file
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dimeotane:
bluetooth internet phone proxy settings

It loaded! Once I got active sync installed it loaded... it just stopped at 38% on the progress indicator. It took a few hard resets and soft resets, but it works! Thankyou everyone for this! I can now use all those latest programs!

I found a bug, trying to the internet through my mobile. The mobile internet plan uses a proxy. I've entered everything like I used to on MW2003 but PIE only just shows "locating" below in the status bar and the green ring turns. It's like its not using the proxy once it's connected through the bluetooth modem. Has anyone managed to use their bluetooth phone internet (with a proxy)?

I loaded a better browser, where I can try setting the proxy in the browser to see if that gets results.

Netfront 4 worked with the port 80 proxy entered. So this confirms there's a problem with the system bluetooth internet proxy in this ROM.(Alkor build 21054) It isn't used after being set up. Maybe there's a hidden registry key that's defaulting the apps to not use the proxy settings.

This ROM make my Hx4700 just fly, what an improvement from WM 2003.

I eventually discovered that if I made a new internet connection "bluetooth work settings" instead it was fine... strange but true.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] www26:
Max CF capacity supported + wifi patch

Hey everyone :)

Just two short questions... I am using the latest 6.1 ROM. After installing the WIFI patch I can use WPA, but sometimes the connection gots frozen and have to turn on/off wireless to continue surfing. I have read here about a second wifi patch. Where can I find that please?

Also I am curious about the maximum CF and SD capacity that hx4700 supports because I am planning a flash card upgrade. Can anyone please tell me this for sure or tested?

Thank you and have a nice day all of you :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] www26:
128 MB RAM upgrade?

Can someone please tell me if upgrading to 128MB RAM can be done "at home" and where to buy the necessary RAM upgrade? Thanks!