yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] TexNY:
Sounds like a short on the Digitizer contacts. If you have ever taken the hx4700 apart, you might not have connected the contacts firmly. The contacts must be even and firm, both above and below the tape strip. When I replaced my Digitizer, I used a few pieces of scotch tape to make sure the thin strap contacted securely, both above and below the tape strip that is already hoding the strap down.

If you have never taken the unit apart, something else is causing the problem. If you are technical and very careful, you can replace almost all the parts from here: www.repairhppda.com.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
Excellent ROM

Installed Alkor RC-

Outstanding Job! I am truly amazed! And No Blank Bubbles! Thank-you so much for all your work.

Sunday
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 76Capri:
I just installed this ROM and am having nothing but problems! The filesys.exe is constantly at 90%+! This of course makes the PDA unusable.

This is with no other software installed, just the ROM flashed.

Is there something else I need to do to resolve this?

I have been using a WM 6.0 ROM with minimal issues for about a month and thought I'd upgrade to WM 6.1
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tony7351:
WiFi problems

Hi I have just intalled the rom From PhamQuang (fast one) I solved the blinking icons changing them to read only. The problem I have is that I cant connect to my local WiFi network. It detects the network I made the steps (security key of the network) but never connect!

any ideas???:confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
76capri ... i have been using this rom for over 6 months with no problems. other than the ones i caused...lol try another hard reset.....

tony7351.... this has been covered many times... search this forum for answers....sometimes there is a fix sometimes it cant be fixed ... depends on which rom version you have used.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rayone:
I'm a little reluctant to believe it's a hardware issue as I just need to restart the unit for the touch screen to start working again. It's like the device is auto locking for no reason. Also after I full reset, it doesn't happen... usually starts 1 day after doing the AcitveSync fake server schedule.

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wangshanlian:
who can give a link of alkor rom
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
Hello,

You can find it here: http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/hpmain.htm

Greetz, Andre.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mayyhem84:
new guy ;)

Hello everybody!

I am totally new - I have my hx4700 for one day. I've came up on this forum while looking sth about this palmtop. Using Your advises I was able to ROM it to WM6 r4 by kozhur. and while reading forum I've discovered this thread! It is really great!! but can You please tell me.. which ROM should I use from all of those mentioned here..?? please.. I've already downloaded sth like 6 or 7 of them o_0 I am not sure which version I have - You are mentioning 128 and 64. I think my is 64 - as I go to system->about I have sth like " Memory: 57,84 MB ". I hope that is it?

and (maybe little off topic - sorry for that.. ) can You give me link to some page with programs for this palmtop or system? I have problems to find sth else than games :/

thanks very much for any help and replay!! :)

cheers, mayyhem84
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] xdjdx:
WM6.1 Kozhura with modification by Ramsses (v1g)

Hello,

Posted on the 30.11.2008

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/hpmain.htm

I have installed this version and everything works, even the wifi with encription enabled.

On other versions where the wifi/encription did not work I used the wzcsvc.dll from WM6 (attached). I used Resco file Explorer to overwrite the offending dll.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mayyhem84:
thank Tou for such a quick replay! actually I was not having any problems with wi-fi on the ROM that I've installed. Other was with bluetooth - this one works fine. But the thing is that one that You gave me works, but slower than kozhur's r4 :| I do not suppose that it should be like that?

so maybe other suggestion..? I would really appreciate :)

thanks for interest!

mayyhem84
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
Welcome!

IMO, go with kozhura's wm6 version3 or sanjay's wm6.1 lite version. I've tried all the roms and I think I'm most satisfied overall going back to wm6. The new roms can seem speedy at first until you put alot of programs on them. Just my opinion. I also always increse the pagepool size to atleast 6 or 8 MB regardless of the size of your ram. You can do this very easily with a program called modpp available in this thread somewhere. It's also useful in just checking the pagepool size of a rom if you don't know. Easy to use, takes a second. All the roms are available on the flyingarizona site. Give them a try!

BTW if you like palm programs you might be interested in StyleTap. It's a program that lets you run palm programs on a ppc. I think there's a demo on freewarepocketpc as well as many other good programs.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 76Capri:
I have noticed that all the 6.1 Roms I installed do the same thing. Filesys.exe goes to 90%+ and the system runs SUPER slow.

For those using 6.1 what is your resolution to this? Are you using the filesys patch? For the brief periods that filesys.exe is not using most of the CPU time wm6.1 seems to be the best Rom to use.

By comparision I have used a 6.0 ROM on the flyingarizona page for about a month with only minimal issues. It started to slow down a bit as I installed more programs So I went on to use the 6.1 ROMS..with zero success so far

I'll have to try the page pool mod suggested here. Does that help with the compaction (filesys.exe) issue???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
I don't know if the pool mod will help the compaction issue. The only advice I know for that is:

1. Always install programs to cards and keep main memory as clear of stuff as possible. This means frequently checking to see if programs sneak something (large) onto main memory even if you chose "card install"

2. Change internet explorer history, cookies, and temp to a card

3. Change the temp/volatile file to a card.

4. Change messaging to a card.

5. Leave device on as much as possible when battery issues aren't a problem (as soon filesys.exe kicks in it runs it's course until finished and turning off the device won't help, as soon as you turn it on it will pick up from where it left off)

6. Always use cab files to install programs even if you install to a card.

( installing by an exe file from the pc uses main memory temporarily although if you follow the above advice it's probably not an issue)

7. Change the dll and exe search path to a card and move some files that you safely can (trial and error)

8. Use a program called "fontonstorage" to move any installed font files to a card (font files are often large; very useful for asian language fonts )

9. try 2nd tip posted here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2251594&postcount=800 to modify patch_filesys

Most of the above tweaks can be done easily with sktools or other tweaker programs which makes it a little easier than doing all that reg editing.

...pardon the long winded answer :p
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mayyhem84:
Thank You very much! I've already downloaded this and will test. Really big thanks for that reply. As I was testing the 6.1 kozhura during day I can say it is ok and sometimes it gets really slow for example as I've installed opera. but after some time of using software it gets ok again. so I will change as You advised.

Thank You for a pagepool as well - I do not know what is that, but will check it and do whatever needs to be done ;)

Programs.. palm.. ppc.. I thoutht it is the same, but probably not :/

Lots of work in front of me ! no time to waist :D

Thanks very much again!

mayyhem84
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
You're welcome!

The Palm OS used to be different, I guess now it's the same. Anyway, there are a lot of good programs written exclusively for palm os, from a few years ago, that you can run on a ppc using Styletap. Here's a link: http://www.styletap.com/
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 76Capri:
This make sense now. I've lurked here for about 5 months now and have continually read that the filesys.exe was no longer an issue. I guess it isn't as long as you let it run it's course? I still like the idea of using the patch to throttle it back a bit.

Anyone have a suggestion on a really good media player to replace WMP? I'd like something that will do libraries and playlists as well as play movies. Being able to add skins would be nice. TCMP does the job of playing files, but isn't pretty...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cerebros:
Coreplayer is the best player for windows mobile. Puts WMP to shame.

http://coreplayer.com/content/view/28/69/

Hope it helps.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Umpal:
And do you know how to do this on WM6.1? I've tried many times with different version of patch_filesys.exe but it doesn't want to work.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 76Capri:
I know how, but have not tried it yet.

As stated before thread:

http://xdaforums.com/show...&postcount=800

Tells you how. The problem you are having is that the patch is not tailored to your ROM/PDA. You have to edit the patch using a hex editor. I wonder if the patches need to be PDA specific or ROM specific...If it was only ROM specific we could build a library of different ones....

From my limited understanding it looks like it's ROM/PDA specific so nobody can just give you the right file...:(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Umpal:
Of course I know about it and I changed it. I'm wondering if someone did it successfully on WM6.0/6.1? According to this post: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2251594#post2251594 'cook' did this:

I have to look for this "last" PdaViet ROM and try to patch it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
Just some thoughts...patch_filesys was created by a guy named shsmith on the axim site in 1/06. He wrote it for the axim x50 WM5 upgrade which suffered from the same slow filesys.exe kicking in on these devices that were originally designed for the completely different WM2003 (like hx4700, wrong kind of memory for WM5+ see: http://tinyurl.com/lr4rg ) Anyway, I mention this because kozhura came out with his first WM5 rom long after this which totally improved the hp WM5 version. I don't know for sure, but I think kozhura already added throttle like improvements in this update similar to what this patch does.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] atco22:
I have been trying out the different ROMS and I noticed a little-mentioned feature that I thought was good. On one or two of the ROMs, under Internet Explorer, there is this feature Menu>View>Use High Resolution, but on other ROMs it is not there. I am now using Alkor's ROM, and was wondering how to get that feature into the IE.

Sure, I can always use Opera, but was just wondering if it is possible to add just that feature in.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
New version of PhamQuang of WM6.1 //HP4700 WM6.1 ROM V27 - Build 20764.1.4.3.

New version of PhamQuang of WM6.1 for hx4700.

HP4700 WM6.1 ROM V27 - Build 20764.1.4.3.

Here I leave with you the link to download.

http://rapidshare.com/files/176054467/HP4700_2.08.27_B20764.rar

If someone could translate the comments made at its Web PhamQuang (http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=42073) would be of great help.

A greeting.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Hackashaq:
Here's google translastion:

Version V27, WM6.1 ROM for HP4700 Clean:

- Develop and edit the V26

- Port Full XIP and use SYS ROM from HTC TouchHD:

CE OS 5.2.20764 Build 20764.1.4.3

- Clean Version V27 speed on the basis of Build new and rapidly stabilize

- Links: BT, WiFi works well.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Linus_18:
pwd required-new phamquang rom

ok, which is the password for the RAR file of this ROM ???

AUTO ANSWER LOOKING BETTER : Pass.: PhamQuang
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
Pagepoole

What is the size of pagepoole?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
More Specific

I have the PocketPC upgrade from 64 to 128 mb, should I increase the Pagepoole size?

Thank-you

Sunday
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
I have the same setup, I'm not 100% sure I notice any difference with the page pool size changes
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
Suggestion

What pagepoole are you using on this ROM?

I can say that for some reason I was not able to load MSN or Westtek Today Plugins when I was using the smaller pagepoole size with Kozhura/Ramsses 1g build. Could have been a coincedence.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Linus_18:
New PhamQuang Rom: ISSUES or WORKING ?

Do someone knows if the last PhamQuang ROM has working IRDA/BT/WIFI ? My ROM actually has IRDA not working and every morning I have a blocked PDA and need to remove main battery then insert again and adjust time (I think a bug, don't know why), but however is a good cooked ROM where i used all the space to put small useful apps and DLL to gain space on main storage (obtaining 34.0Mb free ram and 69.4Mb free main storage despite of tons of apps installed) and where i did the filesys_patch mentioned above, so i'd flash new ROM only if there's IRDA working (for my IRDA keyboard i actually can'tuse).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
Could not use SPB Pocket Plus

I did not get a chance to IRDA. I uninstalled when I could not use SPB Pocket Plus. I could install all the software I like to use but I could not get SPB Pocket Plus to work . Had the same problem with ALKORs Release Canidate. Wish I knew why. I always end up installing Kozhura/Ramsses 1g build. Everything works and it is fast. The only glitch I have noticed is there is no "ok" buttons to hit. Example, if the message box says, "You will need to perform a soft reset to complete installation" normally there is an "ok" button you can tap which allows the box to go away, and takes you back to the Today screen, but it is not there. So I have to perform a soft reset to close that out. I do not know why, doesnt seem to affect anything else, just never an "OK" button!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello

Im use Algasys 6.1 rom , these have all working IRDA BT And Wi Fi its fast and only have 2% battery low overnight , try I have installed for more than 6 months , all fine

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
Blank Notification Bubbles

Does this ROM have any issues with Blank Notification Bubbles? Example, does not display Wireless Information in the Connection Bubble.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Dont have any issues with connection bubbles , have all information and signal level inside .Try it works fine , then post your experience ....

Pd bubbles work ok , but why you need bubbles , in connection panel you have all the info about nets..??? and if you have installed battery status you have all the connection info in today pannel....

Good luck
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
Bubbles

I loaded the ROM, I will give it a try. As for the blank notifications, it just bugs me to have these blank notifications come up that would normally contain some sort of info. Plus I have several networks I can connect to, handy to be able to see which one I am on.

Thank-you for the response

Sunday
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
The only software I know of with the blank notification bubbles is the Alkor RC software. All the other software I have tested has the notification bubbles working.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
Is there any simple fix for that? I did install the new PhamQuang ROM but I cannot use SPB Mobile Shell or Pocket Plus with it. It allows the installation but doesnt allow the use of any menu personalization.

It is not so much that I HAVE to have these programs installed or I have to have the Notification Bubbles working, its just that if they do not work, why? I would assume that if there is a problem with using one piece of software there will eventually be more to follow. My issue with the empty notification bubble is, if its empty, why have it come up at all?

Thank you for all the response

Sunday
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
CF Card

You are correct, this is a very good, stable ROM. Does not seem that fast, but that is okay. I was wondering about using my CF card. I have never had any issues before, but I am getting an error message that says the specified path cannot be found. The SD card works fine.

Thank-you

Sunday
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
I post to gkleding about roms , not only for blank bubbles , he needs a working IRDA and as I know not all roms have this fixed . dpdurst can you know roms that dont have IRDA working?can you tell us please .

Regards

Gustavo
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Do you have troubles with CF card?? Can I help you ? I have installed with no troubles in CF and SD card ...

Other , install memmaid and use in tweaks opt , optimize for speed , then tell me , or if you want to lost 2mg of precious RAM optimize for maximun speed .....

See for filesys activity , if you installed a new rom this process will take a few minutes , when filesys stops , speed its icreased a lot

CF , SD cards must work under this rom , can you explain more please ...

Regards

Gustavo
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
I have not tested any IRDA stuff so I can't say what works or does not work for this option.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
CF Works

Pulled the CF out of 4700 and ran in HP 210. Did not work in 210 either. Cab files must be corrupt. Downloaded the MemMaid tool. Very nice, internet is still slow to almost impossible to use. I can get in, but really cant go anywhere. Tested my network with 210 and 614c, they worked fine. Ran the MemMaid on the 4700, I will try more today.

Thank-You

Sunday
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hi , I never see that , but you will try with pocket mecanik , option format CF card ( dont do nothing more with PM is dangerous ), Internet works ok NOT WITH PIE ,for PIE you must install a 6.1 patch , but dont lost your time , the best work its for netfront browser or opera 9.5 or opera mini .First of all check if you configure your net for work with HP IPAQ WI FI Wireless adapter( see settings , network adapters and click HP IPAQ WI FI Wireless Adapter or open wi fi and then settings , network adapters )

Memmaid in option tweaks optimize for maxime speed works fantastic

Other , when you flash a new rom you must do this without CF and SD cards in the machine , perhaps if you flash with cards in machine these was the trouble , try format .... if dont want use P M 211 have an option for these pourpouse Resco explorer too

Unckeck "enable advanced network funcionality" in settings , connections USB to PC , for best connection with PC via activesync

Activesync dont try to connect time to time in this rom , you have a low battery drain , you dont do nothing about this

Im here for something that you need

Regards

Gustavo
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
I am trying to u/g my hx4700 to Sanjays v6.1 rom using Chris's BootLoader, but am a bit confused. I have followed instructions and am sitting watching a window that says \\.\WCEUSBSH001 115200 N-8-1. In the window is the word CLIENT written four times. It has been like this now for nearly 20 minutes without changing. Has the upload finished? The instructions say it completes with an Error Message, but I haven't got that far.

Am I being too impatient? How long should it take?

Thanks

NigelS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
OK dont worry - sorted now - upgrade successfully completed.

Now, any ideas why the display only appears to be in low resolution rather than the very tasty VGA resolution that it used to manage when running WM2003 SE ??

Thanks

NigelS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
been using sanjays v3 lite version for quite a while now and no problems.. mine is in vga...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] linux-ozzy:
Wifi Problems

Thanx a lot for all the nice ROMs.

I am new here for testing all the hot baked ROMs.

I tried the new Rom build 20764.1.4.3 - by PhamQuang but have problems with WiFi. I can not make a connection. WiFi is not working.

The last used ROM SL61v3 was working very well. Can anybody confirm this problem ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
Memory usage on WM6.1 ??

I have u/g to Algasystems WM6.1 ROM. Under memory applet I had about 75MB free (Storage) and about 30MB free (Program). Then I installed spb Mobile Shell which installs to memory, and the Program Memory dropped to 24MB free.

How are people getting round the memory contraints of a 64MB RAM ipaq 4700? Obviously a lot of programs can and should be installed to SD Card, but what is the lowest practical free memory space that can be allowed to retain stability?

Under WM2003SE I used to have an iPaq FileStore which I used to install my most used programs - but this seems to have gone under WM6.1 (I assume, included into the 75MB Storage??).

Thanks

Nigel
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
WiFi connection probs - Alkor RC

I'm also having problems connecting WiFi with the Alkor-RC ROM. It detects the WiFi network OK; but most of the time it won't connect to my dLink DIR-855. This is using WPA-PSK and a 64 digit passkey. It did connect once but has never reconnected since I setup the original connectoid (so I know the passkey is correct).

Any ideas?

NigelS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
Most likely you will need this file wzcsvc.dll to fix the WPA-PSK issue.I have this at home but I'm at work right now. I can post later this afternoon when I get home for you. This goes in the windows folder replacing the one that is there. you may need to use resco explorer to replace.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
I wish my hx4705 still worked.. i'd whip up a 20954 rom in a jiffy. :( Anyone got use for a dead hx4705 + accessories? :) It turns on, but doesn't boot and the screen is jumbled.. heavily used and abused.. with the 128mb upgrade
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gwolford:
What do you want for it?

Email me at gwolford@cox.net
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
Don't worry - I have found the replacement wzcsvc.dll elsewhere in the thread, along with discussion of the issue. I tried the replacement, but for me it didn't make any difference. I have gone back to Sanjay's full ROM and the wifi connects OK now. Only issue I have is cosmetic - an occassional failure to redraw/refresh the Start button, top left corner after a soft reset.

NigelS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] GSX600FMAN:
quote. ...I wish my hx4705 still worked.. i'd whip up a 20954 rom in a jiffy. Anyone got use for a dead hx4705 + accessories?

if you live in Northants, (UK) area I'd be willing to spend a day on it getting it going for you. Other than that try ipaq repair (in Leicester). He can recover the ROM failure.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MagooChris:
Hey All again...

Well it's a new year! how is everyone?

anyway, I've been using Sanjay's lite rom for about 2 months now, working away with the keyboard for input without thinking about it too much... but over the new year break I was showing a friend what can be done on the PDA when I noticed that I could no longer free write and have it convert it into text... there are three input options: "Block Recognizer" "Keyboard" and "Letter Recognizer" is this now standard for 6.1 or is there something up... as I remember in my 2003 version that I could smoothly write and it would pick it up instead of strange strokes for each letter...

Also, where can I find information on creating or modifing a 6.1 Rom... I was thinking of trying to get an "Aussie" (eng UK) language version running...