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[Shift General] danielherrero:
Yep, I put links to resco explorer and clearstorage in my today....as lifeguards......
[Shift General] rpawly:
what do you mean daniel?
[Shift General] cmonex:
because that battery is goddammit UGLY. :D
[Shift General] sbueschi:
tstsss:eek:
[Shift General] cmonex:
1234? that's just to say yes to clearing storage in clearstorage.exe

i still don't have an SPL dump from anyone's device to say more than that.

umm.. also a tester for SD drivers would be nice ;)
[Shift General] :
But you have to admit he is right :D

On topic: I received my Shift on thursday and so far I love it.

The only thing I do not understand is how they (HTC) thought of the combination of Vista and Windows Mobile.

It looks like a great idea but for some reason they forgot you might want to have your e-mail on both sides of the coin :)

Right now I only have my E-Mail, Agenda, Tasks and Contacts in Vista but no idea about how to get them cross the border to SnapVue.

Pointers?
[Shift General] cmonex:
.....LOL ;)
[Shift General] :
If you could enlighten me on how I could aquire that SPL dump for you then I'd be more than happy to do so :)
[Shift General] sbueschi:
search for the USB tricks earlier in this thread. 2 methods that work
[Shift General] rosrog:
.cab files

Look! you guys are wonderful and i'm grateful. I actually used the two single quotes instead of the double quotes. now, it installed perfectly. Many thanks.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I ve added to resco today plugin (Its a today plugin launcher)links towards file explorer and clearstorage. In this way if start button doesnt work or something goes wrong I can hard reset with one only click on the screen....
[Shift General] :
Thanks!

Lol @ 48 pages to browse once more :D
[Shift General] sbueschi:
sorry, here it is - :cool:check this one out: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2010980&postcount=87
[Shift General] :
Shanks :D

I just found another post by Pantaloonie about sending yourself USBtool.exe and thus providing a virtual usb cable.

I'll try them tomorrow when I have had some good sleep.

First I'll have to finish my work..... :eek:
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Still wise to browse through the whole thread, as mistakes were made which you won't want to repeat. One bricked Shift so far, don't be the second!

Perhaps time to start the Shift Wiki?
[Shift General] sbueschi:
yes, the one with usbtool is a bit easier and works fine as well
[Shift General] rosrog:
today screen

i have successfully imported today.reg with resco, but what next step should i take to find my owner info? any step by step on getting a today screen on snapvue? the initial threads i read seemed a bit difficult. please help.
[Shift General] sbueschi:
with Quickmenu (if installed, otherwise download it, check attachment list in this thread) you can access the personal settings where you find the today settings. You should have the standard WM6 items enabled to select if your registry import was correct. Select those and disable the snapvue item. Make sure you have quickmenu working. Some of us me included had an empty todayscreen once :mad:
[Shift General] cmonex:
if it doesn't work out with the other people who've offered their help, i'll let you know, thanks
[Shift General] :
Sure, no problem.
[Shift General] michael85:
One thing I noticed, when I put the phone in bootloader state, I don't have any sound or music anymore on Vista.

Is this sound regulated by WM or something :confused:
[Shift General] cmonex:
possible, by the radio in the WM part, maybe. but that sounds like a complicated implementation really
[Shift General] cmonex:
some news - i got two SPL (bootloader) dumps, after examination it turns out they are identical (Shipped 1.30 version)

1) they do not allow hard reset by keycombo

2) they do not allow flashing from SD

3) there is a way to enter bootloader without booting OS, but i don't know yet which key or button has to be pressed.

solution:

1) make hardSPL (if you don't know what hard-SPL is then go have a look around this forum outside shift part. but basically it is a modified bootloader version that allows you to flash custom OS'es)

2) hack in hardreset keycombo into hardSPL and SD flash etc.

until hardSPL is done by shift project, the hard cold truth is, don't mess too much with snapvue to make it totally unbootable. BUT of course if we find the key(s) to enter bootloader, and also get mtty working, then you can simply issue a command to bootloader over the virtual USB connection. then you can hard reset. but until that's worked out, just don't mess too much!

and of course, a test device will greatly speed up hardSPL development, but until then some volunteers can help somewhat.
[Shift General] michael85:
Great! Big step forward I think.

Okay, we need to make a hardspl, but now we know something. Thanks! ;)

EDIT:

Why is it that when the device is in bootloader, the display is blanc?

Is that because of HTC didn't want us to let us see things?
[Shift General] rpawly:
01234567899
[Shift General] cmonex:
it seems so :P

edit: i'm checking if the virt USB functionality works at all in bootloader, and is not disabled by HTC in the shipped SPLs... will let you know when i get to know more
[Shift General] rpawly:
cmonex

when i enterbootloader

screen goes black

then vista tells me the following:

"one of the usb devices attached to this computer has malfunctioned and windows does not recognize it

2xclick on it gives

usb controllers

location: port_#0001.Hub_#0002

no drivers installed for this device

i tried to update driver and it says the best driver is already installed.

Dead End
[Shift General] rpawly:
ok im off shift haxing duty for tonight ttyat
[Shift General] rosrog:
today screen

I'm very grateful. quickmenu is installed and works fine. Now I have an elegant WM6 today screen. thanks to you and all intelligent guys out there.
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
Sorry guys - it was Friday night when i sent the last post and my wife was trying to get me out the door to do some weekend socialising.

Anyhow, this is not hard.

Download and install a registry editor (there's the really simple one mentioned earlier that you download, unrar, rename file to .exe, etc.) or, now that we've all got access to file manager you could install resco or total commander.

Then, go into the registry to HKLM\Services and delete the service that runs snapvue.dll. I'd tell you the name but it isn't there on mine - because I deleted it a few days ago. :rolleyes:

Then when you reboot you don't get the black bars - and you actually get to keep any theme you might have previously selected.
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
Also, having stopped snapvue you now have access to the standard start menu, although you won't see it (the icon isn't there).

When you run RealVGA, the icon is put back.

So, unless you really like Quickmenu, you can unistall that too.
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
Danieal, I'm sure this is not true.

I am not running snapvue at all and I have perfect 3g connectivity on both sides.
[Shift General] sacramoso:
Hi Guys,

it could be very useful, mainly for beginners - like me - to summarize, in a normal basic English language - of course step by step - how can we use WM6 on Shift in normalmode, how can we add new programs, how can we sync wit Vista without Exchange server etc. I know it is written in this topic but I hope it could be a good help for everybody.

thx.
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
I'm working on a full guide to getting from "factory settings" to "something usable" right now.

It may take me a while. :eek:
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hi.

Finally I took courage and installed realvga again, and spanish language pack. Dont worry, all works now but had the same problem that before but this time I did it in a safe way. Its confirmed that after install realvga, when system boots doesnt execute windows|inicio but windows\startup. I dont know why.....

Its really nice to manage file explorer, mail, etc with real vga, hehe. Does someone know where there is a link to office cab?
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Hi Tito,

that's fantastic. Same point as nemeth, I do not understand all of what you and the others have done so far, but I am fascinated and before I start meddling with WM I would really appreciate a manual for a "semi-idiot" in these matters.

For example, when I am brave enough to change VGA where do I get the file? In which folder? Has the original file to be deleted, probably in same folder and so on on...

Hope this isn't asked too much.

Keep up the magnificent work!

Settembrini
[Shift General] michael85:
About the memory on snapvue, this is stated on the HTC site:

I don't have that much on SnapVUE. Maybe they hide something? :confused:
[Shift General] michael85:
Just a question, why is it you can't release it?

Will they know it comes from you?

I heard somewhere that the beta rom includes WiFi, SD an GPS access.

Is this true? Is it simple to compare the rom I have now with the beta rom to see where the WiFi, SD and GPS differences are? (I think drivers)
[Shift General] rpawly:
I definitely dont have tha much in snapvue!
[Shift General] michael85:
Me neither! But it's weird that this is stated in the specifications on the HTC site.

I extracted the spl yesterday for cmonex and also saw the less ammount of mb.
[Shift General] rpawly:
so from the spl can you tell what the address spaces contain?

we dumped them all but i cant read that stuff lol
[Shift General] michael85:
Lol, don't know that much about it :p

Maybe we can only see the space it has used and not the free space with this... :confused:

Ahhh... I wish I could read that stuff and program my own things too.....

EDIT:

Anyone noticed we have 52 pages within 1 month about this topic :D:D
[Shift General] rpawly:
ya we need a mmmm irc channel or something equivelant for working on stuff posting is tuff when in middle of something and waiting for email notifications to travel the net then person to check email and respond in kind.
[Shift General] michael85:
The only problem is the different timezones and not everyone knows how to use IRC ;)

I do, used it in the past but now I'm not using it anymore for a long time.

I noticed that the XDA ftp is down. Any reason for this?

I'm willing to setup an ftp for file sharing for the shift :) (yes only for the shift :D)
[Shift General] rpawly:
well this thread has 20 thousand views so far, if they all download 1 attachment ............................................ ya know be careful with your bandwidth
[Shift General] rpawly:
we also need to find a memory chip to replace the 1GB we have now

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=376237
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hi.

I wanted to share with you how looks winmo with realvga:)

NOT ENGLISH USERS REMEMBER to create the directory \windows\Startup and copy the links you have in \windows\inicio (in spanish) because once realvga is installed then window will execute \windows\startup links on startup,not your original startup directory (the name depends on the languaje, Inicio in spanish)

Dani
[Shift General] rpawly:
daniel youve been a bad boy, YOU DIDNT WAIT!!!
[Shift General] danielherrero:
hehehe, I know it but I did many safety issues.
[Shift General] killer_t:
Can you write Step by step how to do to install? please..
[Shift General] rpawly:
were working on it killer
[Shift General] killer_t:
Thanks.... i wait.. :D

Daniel you are the brave!!!
[Shift General] rpawly:
daniel has good skills in winmo and understands why things work not just how they work in the OS
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hi

Please wait for the step by step guide tito is preparing. As you know realvga can brick your device (I bricked mine 4 days ago). I only wanted to show you how will look your device very soon :)
[Shift General] citivolus:
does the webcam work in WM6? you can test this with Microsoft Portrait.

thanks!
[Shift General] rpawly:
i agree Daniel, i know more than most and im waiting, daniel has a ACE up his sleeve, he got his shift at a local store lol, instant exchange. even if his daughter tells him its bad! :)
[Shift General] michael85:
About the instant exchange, you can also use Windows Live Messenger with windows mail ;)
[Shift General] michael85:
Only for the people who are posting in this thread could get a PM with account details. (and people who are working on it off course)

Let me know if you guys are interested in this :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
did that go over my head, or was it lost in translation?
[Shift General] michael85:
What do you mean? :confused:
[Shift General] rpawly:
post it in the project section and see if the true developers are interested.
[Shift General] rpawly:
Exactly lol
[Shift General] michael85:
Edit... just wait for the tutorial from the other members :)

Will do that, thanks for the hint
[Shift General] rpawly:
Micheal,

I mean that he can physically exchange his Shift at a local store if he bricks it.

LOL
[Shift General] michael85:
Hahaha lol :D I thought and Exchange emailaccount for pushmail :D

Ahh well, now everyone can use snapvue with Windows Live ;)
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
And how many more times do you think they'll let him do this? ;)
[Shift General] rpawly:
Guys and Gals,

Please make sure everyone donates to the Shift Project. It will allow the Developers to get ahold of a device and really get down to work on creating a device we can all really use instead of just these rudimentary hax.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=375898
[Shift General] rpawly:
hehe, I hear you! Dunno depends on how smooth of a talker he is, I would suppose :)
[Shift General] michael85:
I think they won't let him exchange it again :p
[Shift General] rpawly:
oh i could get 3 at least!!!

<--------Smooth Talka ............ errrrr bleh
[Shift General] danielherrero:
hehe. The seller told me "If the device bricks again maybe you want to choose other model..."But I said..."No, I want thisi model. I will try to not brick it again". In this shop (El corte ingles) if the owner want to return it because he doesnt like or change it the first 15 days then the manufacturer must accept without any cost for the buyer or the shop, so teorically I can return it n times. Anyway I prefer not to try it again......;)
[Shift General] michael85:
Hmhm... I live in the wrong country.. Here it's send to HTC to repair it and then you'll get your own device back.

I'm only going on holiday to Spain now, just think I can beter move to Spain. :p

Weather is much beter over there :D
[Shift General] rpawly:
awww just take your daughter with you and let her win the shop owner over for you :) que linda
[Shift General] michael85:
I think that's not a great idea, I think she is going to tell them herfather is very bad :D
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I ve to say that I was with my daughter when I returned my device because my wife wasnt at home. Mayby you should try this strategy if you ve to do it, hehe. If the seller is a woman she will accept the change for sure¡¡¡ :p
[Shift General] michael85:
Rpawly you were right! Ahh well, now we all know which strategy we must use if we have a problem and need to return it :rolleyes:
[Shift General] sbueschi:
Tito

which realvga did you use and how? is that on the device somewhere or did you load that. If yes can you hive a hint which file (just to avoid i brick something)

thanks
[Shift General] rosrog:
opera mini

I'd like to install the opera mini but not sure what jbed file to install first. Any link or attchment will be appreciated.
[Shift General] michael85:
Please search in this thread. He already said witch one.
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
As more people buy the Shift and discover this thread, we will be answering the same questions over and over. If you guys do any step by step instructions, please add them to the Shift wiki - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Clio

If you don't know how to add to the Wiki, then at least attach your step by step instructions to your post as a .txt file attachment, so they can be easily found by viewing the thread attachments.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager-2.html
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Real VGA is found here -

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=327830&highlight=real+vga

Don't install it unless you have stopped the snapvue service from running at startup.
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Do you mean black bars at the top and bottom, or to the left and right of the display?
[Shift General] killer_t:
From Fabric factory i haven't touch NOTHING in Vista side...

In Windows mobile side

- Open new mail and into add file, chose image. Here copy/paste the folder startup in my document use ctrl-c ctrl-v.

- Send to you mail with taskmgr.exe and usbtools.exe, and this annex copy into startup folder just copied.

- Copy annex taskmng.exe into my document-startup

- Now recopy this folder into windows tree (use new mail, add image ctrl-c ctrl-v....)

- Reste SnapVUE from Vista.

- After restart, taskmanager appears and set to manual and stop SnapVue (SVT0: ) in Service tab.

- With regedit addon (in taskmanager) i go in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\ and under Value Data i have type wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete.

- With usbtool you can connect the 2 Side, and share file.

- Remember, add in windows/startup a shorthcut to clearstorage.exe.

Reset all.

enjoy!!:)
[Shift General] pl670:
LEFF and Right........ Could you also please expain why I can not add the reg files to the today screen? (except for me being THICK ;) )
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
OK... the black bars that we have been talking about removing were the ones at the top and bottom of the screen - they were placed there by the snapvue service to hide the start button and taskbar.

The black areas at the left and right are caused by WinMo running at it's native resolution, nothing can be done about them - yet.

As for the reg files, have you imported the attached file using a registry editor?
[Shift General] pl670:
I have a toshiba g900 its native res is 800x480 and it runs full screen by default. what would i need to copy to port the settings accross?
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Very good question - I don't know. But I do know that cmonex and others will be looking into solving this.
[Shift General] pl670:
As for the reg, I get Syntax Error, Both through PHM and TRE regedits any other ideas?
[Shift General] sbueschi:
Thanks Pantaloonie, yes i deleted first the snapvue.dll in the registry under the snapvue service. (only the dll line, not the whole snapvue service-folder) and the bars are gone. Installing realvga and the 96dpi cab now. So far i have proper 3G connection still on both sides
[Shift General] danielherrero:
The people hasnt waited fot the tito's guide to intall realvga so I ve to repeat a very important thing. If your winmo isnt english edition then create the directory \windows\startup and coopy to it the content of \windows\inicio (in spanish edition, for example) because after install realvga the system wont execute the original startup directory but \windows\startup (like english edition)
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Thanks Daniel, I forgot about that. This was the cause of your bricked unit, so it is very important info!
[Shift General] sbueschi:
done - so great

all worked fine, snapvue is in the coma, realvga works great and both vista and WM with no issues. Thanks. Cheers, S
[Shift General] rosrog:
opera mini

Daniel, thanks to you. its working fine. I'm grateful.
[Shift General] killer_t:
Installed correctly :D but the Characters are too small
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Yep. If someone doesnt create the directory and doesnt disable snapvue service and current theme isnt snapvue (this theme lets you click on settings button and then start menu, etc) and your language isnt english then you get a beatiful and expensive stone, or hammer, because you will have to return it to the shop.... ;)
[Shift General] Vs1979:
OK so another one who jumped before reading Tito's guide.

I installed RealVGA perfectly. No worries - English language as well so no probs with the startup.

So my question is : Have I missed anything, but I still have the black bars at the side. Any ideas for getting rid of those.

Also anyone tried any rotation software on the WM side or VIsta side. One of the reasons I have this is for ebook reading. And Portrait view would be great.

Cheers
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Hi Daniel,

I sort of understood that, but in your thumbnails it says "inicio". So did you do some more changing or is that how it has to be?

Settembrini
[Shift General] danielherrero:
inicio is startup in spanish.....
[Shift General] Vs1979:
FYI installed SPB Pocket Plus and managed to get the screen to rotate. So thats good.

Just as asked earlier, any way to use some more real estate by improving resolution and getting rid of those black bars on the side cos that would make it much better for acrobat reader etc.
[Shift General] fatouraee:
RealVGA it only changes the screen res in the same screen size but your items are smaller and screen fits more stuff. the bars on both sides are becuase the wm it only supports 240*320 or 460*640 so i dont think without some serious moding you will be able to use them...
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Exactly...
[Shift General] Pawel062:
wvga isnt hard to get working on the shift. once ill get to cooking roms on it ill be able to most likely get the 800x480 res working.

to those who like to have snapvue still working and also have the start menu fully on the top. use the cab in the addons rar for the athena ap3.0 rom. replace ur snapvue.dll with the one in there BUT first install sdkcerts to ur device. cab is on xda. specifically it can be found in my battery icons thread. after that u should have snapvue running at same time and start menu showing.

dont know how realvga will work then but u can always remove from startup and u should be able to get it running again via settings.

the space limitations on this device will kind of kill the cooking of roms since we cant put too many of the nice htc applications on there. i will find ways to work around this though. enjoy ur shifts until then.
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
You get snapvue and the start menu working together simply by stopping the snapvue service with task manager.

Leave the snapvue today plugin turned on, and you get the start button at the top.
[Shift General] cmonex:
the path is defined in a resource dll for the shell and that of course gets changed when installing realvga
[Shift General] rpawly:
ohhh you think your soooo smart dont ya :)))) lol im retarded heh nj
[Shift General] danielherrero:
very, very, very smooth. No softkeys but no problem for me.....:cool:

No zoom needed. In fact there isnt zoom in. Probably because 640x480 doesnt need it......
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I dont like snapvue......
[Shift General] rpawly:
hah can you say tease :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
i guess ill be the first to mess up :/

someone want to post the location of the remove programs file and how to get there from file manager :(

i tried to load opera mobile *not mini and it gives a error saying the version is outdated get the latest :(
[Shift General] foxmeister:
Install PIE 6.1 by following the instructions in this thread and it seems to work ok!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=365164&page=3

The CAB file didn't do anything for me at all, despite the fact that I've "enabled" them in the registry - I do get the CAB icon for it, so I guess that it's a problem with that particular CAB file.

EDIT: I should say that I didn't copy the files into WINDOWS - I just dumped them into "My Documents\Business" and ran them from there.

Regards,

Dave