yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
You are correct, alot of times the software is to blame, but the Roms also have many issues. The bluetooth seems to have been the most stable part of all of them however. I noted you mentioned Pocket FMS. You may want to try APIC. They have now become free download for the basic map on PPC and also windows. Much smaller downloads and much faster in screen refresh and also load times. Plus features that PFMS do not have.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
This is the only place I know of in the US - http://www.ppctechs.com/
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
Big weekend...I understand the GPS via Dongle very cool! relating to this ROM anyone tried it on 64mb device I have not upgraded and don't want to flash for no reason.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mcdonn:
Good to see more support out there for the 4700

Havent updated ROM since 6.0 in Nov 2007. Looks like some serious improvements may move me to trying 6.1

Thanks to all the developers for their terrific efforts.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
I dont' think you would have any issue, the rom itself is only 49.2 megs so it should be no problem for even 64 meg to flash. I think reading on the 4DPA russian forums trying to decipher what they were talking about, it was mentioned that they had more memory left over after flashing this rom.

I also noted last night again on russian forums that there is a WPA-PSK fix but I have no way to get that. I got all through the registration but could make out the image words and couldn't translate them so just gave up.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Wild Bill:
WPA-PSK TKIP, This worked for me on 2 different routers, Enter your settings, try to connect, then edit your settings, delete Network key and reenter (note, This time letters appear, instead of stars)This works usually a couple times, then you have to do it again.Workable, but, not ideal.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Dickster:
SPB pull down menus

I am currently trying the new Alkor rom. Everything seems to work OK. But I am experiencing a problem with SPB programs.

In SPB programs it seems like the pull down menus are not working. As anyone else experiencing this problem and is there a solution for the problem?

Edit:

I am able to select the menus with the touchpad. I do not see this as i real solution for the problem.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
I am only worried about it because I flashed with 1 Kozhura rom and it was a 128mb verison only!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
As far as I know that was the only 128 meg version that existed. The others are all 64 meg
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
I have not been able to WPA-PSK TKIP to work at all this morning at work. On another note, I left the PPC out of the cradle last night 86% and this morning there was 84% battery still left. Not too bad.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
CF and SD cards in it?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
is this better than foxit PDF reader ? i am using foxit on sanjays rom as well as foxit on my laptop XP pro.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
Both CF and SD are in the machine
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello , for me its the best , reflow works fantastic , fast and stable , only one bug when you work with full screen you dont come back to standar menu without close it (program), but its insignificant
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
These values are perfectly normal , Some times when we power off the machine Active SYnc sill work in background and in the next morning drain values are bigger than usual described . Before power off , turn off AS , some soft need it and we dont know that its active ie: garmin movile XT I have this trouble and was too hard found what sometimes drain betwen night and day was bigger than other days . Verify turn off AS in background !!!before close .

Also its another mistery not yet resolved , sometimes batt goes to 15% from 100% in one night (machine off) , only one time over one or two months , I have also a 211 and have the same mistery .This happends with new batts and in diff machines with diff OS with only common point both are HP and with the same battery , yes same battery both are identical one 2200 mah and other 4700 1800 mah , same electronic inside DS 2761 , from axim IC.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Dickster:
I think the WPA-FIX mentioned on the russian forum could be the use of the old wzcsvc.dll form kozhura's 6.0 fix 4 release. You can find this file in the post:

http://xdaforums.com/report.php?p=2386791

I just replaced the file (using active sync, because you cannot copy the file on the pda) and it looks like the wifi WPA-PSK is working like before.:D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
I left AS open for this test to see what would happen. I did do the server trick however. I have never gotten this good response from overnight not being plugged in till this rom. Maybe luck don't know. Most of the time drain is 20%-35% on other roms same test.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
Will have to give this a try and see if it works in the 6.1 version.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Dickster:
I Think it will. It is the solution ramsess used in his modifications of the kozhura 6.1 rom.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] myn5054:
Where in the PDA you must replace the file? In wndows folder?

Thank in advance
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Dickster:
You have to overwrite the existing file in the windows folder. I first tried this directly on the pda and got a message that the file was in used.

After searching I found that the file should be replaced using active sync. I tried this and it looks to work for me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] myn5054:
Thank, i replace the file, in windows folder via activesync, you must select that you can see all folders and file, Then you raplace and hualaa, the wifi run ok.

Thank you all
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
Paraphrased readme file on WPA-tkip fix from 4pda.ru :
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
BTW, not really related, just reminded me, I found a simple trick to avoid the compaction thread kicking in as often is by leaving the device on when plugged in.

Also if you increase the "minutes till turn off when on battery power" slightly it will help as well (at the expense of battery ofcourse)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Yes you are right , in HP WM5 this happends , perhaps some 6.1 roms have old drivers or something from WM5 , when AS its active try to connect every x seconds even the machine its off .Other when you sync your machine with PC via AS (USB or BT) after you close the connection see with task manager all new running programs that you have : tmail ,comm manager, etc these processes drain current in off mode too . Before close you must kill these , memmaid can do the job or soft reset with pocket power manager ( for not press the inside button EVERY TIME , JUST TICK the icon for this). For safe off you must have 115 ma drain , you can install Battery status , and you have drain current indicator in screen , seems to be cosmetic screen but its invaluable for test , also for test if filesys exe its working , if that happends you have high values same as 400 mah until finish .

All as I said will help for low drain in off mode . Its a common practice said that its a rom fault for something that isnt .Most troubles are caused by beta soft ,bad soft , soft that makes miracles , old registry values , dirty installs etc etc etc .EXCEPT HP WM5 , here my friends nothing to do ITS A VERY BAD ROM its a daily surprise You cant predict what happends the next minute.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
I really like cook's tip for changing the SD Card as above.

To add to that, I found it's also useful to change to "Storage Card")

This is useful because there are sometimes programs that have setup files that use the word "Storage Card" in their ini file. Opera mobile for example did that in one of their recent beta releases. You can always go in and change all the references in the ini file SD, but it's a hassle.

Also in alot of reg file text tweaks (by menneisyys for example) the words "Storage Card" are usually used.

Just be sure to do this early on, before installing alot of software or you may have a mess.

edit: Hmm, change of plans, cook's reg change doesn't seem to work. it creates errors. i've found some threads mentioning the same thing: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=268060
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
I just flashed with the new alkor_rc rom but it would not flash the usual way using the chrismrulz bootloader! I had to use the bootloader included with the alkor_rc rom downloaded from the 4pda site and follow the directions from the thread there (in russian) ....Google translation:

Raspakovyvaem to drive "C".

Starting Butloader_Gui and open OS.nb0.

We are waiting for when proshetsya to 38%.

Close the program, vytaskivaem cable, a 2-and incurred hardrezeta.

...so from the words above I figured, start the bootloader gui and choose os.nbo. (at that point instead of seeing the usual terminal window, you see a small box showing the progress in % numbers) when it reaches 38% it stops and then you disconnect and hard reset twice. It worked!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Dickster:
Is anyone else experiencing the above problem. I noticed it is not a SPB problem but I think it in the rom. I have the same problem when I go to start – setting – buttons and try to change the assigned program with the pull down menu at the bottom of the screen.

Did I mis something. I downloaded the rom from the site of dpdurst. I did not find a bootloader included and was able to flash with chrismrulz bootloader (twice).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
Strange I had no problem twice now reflashing the 4700 with the Chrismrulz bootloader. Went really fast too.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Wild Bill:
Bootloader

I used the Bootloader (Chrismrulz) and File (New Alkor) from this site, it was much faster (Flashing).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
The other bootloader I used was downloaded directly from the russian site 4pda.ru and was included with the alkor_rc rom.

I tried both the dpdurst alkor_rc and the 4pda one (exactly same rom, confirmed by hexeditor) with the chrismrulz bootloader as i've done many times before and it just hung there forever. I tried several times. If it worked for others, great, just not for me, don't know why.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
After trying the new alkor_rc rom I'm going back to good old sanjay lite.

I couldn't get wpa-tkip to work with the fix and had problems with contacts. It doesn't seem much faster either, though it's got nice graphics.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jabra:
Thank you for your help :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] LimboMan:
Link to algasystems file...

...is it no longer active?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] toja56:
you click on text above above filename: "Request Download Link"

Next window click "Download File" ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] toines04:
Can't connect with activesync 4.5

Hello to all,

I have installed today the 6.1 rom to my 4700.

Everything seems to work well, exept the connection with Activesync 4.5 to my Pc.

I have tried different cable's, reset my 4700 a few times but nothing seems to works.

I must tell you that iám verry new with this material and i have search a long time on this verry good forum to find the solution by my self.

Can someone help me to get Activesync working?

tia
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] naboo:
Yes, there is an issue with ActiveSync and PDAVIET WM6.1 build. I've noticed that the synchronization is slower and less reliable. To synchronize I have to reset my PDA and reboot my computer - then first synchronization is successful but every next fails - computer doesn't recognize USB device.

I'd say USB settings in PDAVIET rom are not quite compatible with hx4700.

Naboo
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vimesUK:
I agree with you. I have found that activesync on the PDA will remain active after the PDA is removed from the docking station and can't be stopped, even using Pbar 1.5. You can tell it is still running as the two arrows on the today bar at the top will show that it is still connected after it has been removed.

Reconnecting the PDA will not re-establish a connection with the PC, even when the PDA is reset. I have reboot the PC and the PDA for it to work again.

HOWEVER

The above can be resolved and it does work a treat if you go into Settings. Then into Connections. Then click on the USB to PC link and then

untick

the option for "Enable advanced network functionality".

Then reboot the PDA.

From then on the connection to the PC works fine, well at least it does for me :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Linus_18:
issues on wm6 r3 kozh and wm6.1 from sanjay

on my hx4700 i had problems, after flashing wm6.1 from sanjay, with active sync, problems with recognizing my SD 4gb and problems cause i didn't find any more the TASKS application (instead CONTACTS, MESSAGES, CALENDAR working).

I discovered, instead, that after installing USB_HDD and putting in my CF-USB HOST ADAPTER from ratoc-international, my 100 gb usb hard disk worked perfectly when connected to ipaq 4700, so that application it's useful only for people that has USB HOST ADAPTER.

I think that for having more ram in the hx4700, some application not often used, can be compressed using upx. the slowing for decompression will not influence, doing this way, the global speed of the device.

i have no memory expansion on hx4700, in wm6 kozh r3 upx-ing a lot of apps i arrived to have 32mb ram and 41mb for storage. i compressed even the windows mobile splash screen (256 colors instead of 64k) and moved from device to sd everything i could. pls don't try to upx-ize the dll cause often the apps don't work doin't this.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] info5404:
Version Difference

First of all big thanks to kozhura for his fantastic work. Just got my hx4700 and flashed it to kozWM5. Love it, but filesys.exe is driving me ape****.

First question: From what i understand the filesys.exe problem is much improved in WM6. Will that apply to koz WM6 R4? Or does it only apply to WM6.1 versions?

Second question: What exactly is the difference between kozhura's versions of the roms and say sanjay's viet based rom? What modifications does kozhura make to his roms or is it just a clean standard oem-like version?

Third question: What are the major differences between the koz WM6 r4 and the WM6.1 version? I'm going for max usability and the filesys.exe issue is a major factor (it REALY pisses me off lol).

Last question: Anything major between sanjays and algasystems versions? Anyone ran both? Which one seems to be more stable?

Thanks. Fantastic effort. Well done.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] toines04:
Thanks a lot!! Your tip works verry well.

I must search voor the USB connection part, because on my device it is not under connections but in the system map.

Thanks again.....

Antoine
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] naboo:
Yes, I also can see some improvement. Thanks for a good tip :)

And here is another suggestion to have the option "Enable advanced network functionality" disabled by default in future builds.

Synchronization works much better now.

Naboo
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
You know I have always found this to occur too. I have been meaning on posting about it, but never got round to it and was surprised that no-one else has too. I found that with Sanjay's flavour it did it less initially after flashing, but seemed to to it more over time...

It isn't life threatening, just annoying! :o
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Linus_18:
twice i tried flashing wm6.1 cleaned and then turned back to wm6.

i used spb backup successfully to keep apps and start menu shortcuts as before. however i notice that my 4 gb sd don't works (i have to eject and then insert again) on the boot of the device. i saw there was a "sd disapperaing reg hack" for other devices maybe related to this, but couldn't fix this. i also had active sync problems, even correcting the "adv. usb functionality" the device don't sync and it's not recognized from pc...this for me. so i prefer turn back to wm6 of kozhura, that with pocket hack master, quick menu and usb_hdd (rhmartin) is the best version i've tried, even if there are rgu and other files in windows folder.

...still waiting x sdhc drivers to test my still unused 8 gb sdhc :-(

hope this helps.

wm6 & linux familiar on separate cf 1 gb (used for backup too in remaining partition) booting directly (haret, ram rescue) from WM6 @ hp hx4700 ipaq with 4gb sd & 16 gb cf. Accessories: 100 gb hard disk usb linked, ir keyboard, cf-gps, extended battery, 8gb cf & 4 gb mmc cards; developer of visual studio 2005 for mobile devices
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] info5404:
cool

Cool. Do you have a link to a guide on dual booting familiar/wm6? How do you connect the hdd to the hx4700? How well does familiar run for you? Afaik it's quite well supported xcept for wpa. Any issues?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] LimboMan:
Thanks! I now get the page that you're referring to. Link may not have been working the last time I tried. I kept getting the main page for the download service vs. the download file page.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Algasystems,

I am a few days late installing your version of this ROM, but finally got to it this evening. I like it and have added your link to the first post of this thread. Hopefully that will make it easier for people to find it. (Not sure HP is due any credit any longer for the 4700 ROMs so as I develop more, I will probably continue to use generic WM6 splash screens for my varieties.) ;)

As people make further changes, I will try to add the links to the first post.

Great job!

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Charles,

Yes thanks I see from the pda4x link that BT phone appears to be a problem. I have a question though...did you see similar issues with the WM6 Kozhura ROMs?? I'm trying to establish when this problem started.

The BT drivers in Kozhura's withdrawn 6.1 ROM appear to be identical to the PDAVIET drivers so while I can't confirm, I'm reasonably certain that the same problems would have been seen with that ROM - if it had worked.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] algasystems:
Thank you! ;)

Regarding the logo, you're absolutely right, but I like to make things

as stock as possible :)

BTW, can someone point me to Kozhura's withdrawn rom?

I'd like to experiment a bit :)

Edit: the link on the main page is wrong (it points at the main site)... Can you fix it? Thanks!

Cheers,

algasystems
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
Sanjay,

No, I didn't try Kozhura ROM since first, it has been dropped, and second the PDAviet seem to have a shorter story of issue, so I took the best for me. I don't know if this might help you but I found that my machine was more prone to crash/freeze when BT is working. When I'm using BT, I can see that my memory is dropping dramatically. I would be curious to know if people with 128 Mb upgrade have that issue too.

I had to install memory hungry apps to memory like Pocket Informant 8 and MS Voice Command and this doesn’t help my case. If you telling me that it shouldn’t matter, then I’ll leave it to 64Mb otherwise, I’m considering the upgrade seriously.

I’m trying to give you as much information I can…

Thanks a bunch!

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
Sanjay,

Let me know how you find this recooked ROM. I'm curiuous to know if the reg fix/clean has improved stability a bit. I might go with Algasystem ROM while you try to fix BT issue... if any...

Thanks

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] alan sh:
I have the Koshura 6.1 rom here at home. It's 35Mb - how do I get it to you (I don't have a rapidshare account or anything)? I never tried it - the horror stories stopped me.

Alan
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lennysh:
Is anybody making any ROMs for this device anymore? I just got one for free, and was just wondering if I needed to make my own 20924 ROM, or if somebody else already had one. Please link me if so. Will save me about 30 minutes. :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Lennysh,

You have done good work on the Dell so if you have a 4700....go for it!

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bub181:
It will be great if you can make a new ROM for us lenny. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gwolford:
I loaded HP iPAQ PPC WM6.1 Rom build 20755.1.4.0 - Alkor release candidate from wm6.flyingarizona.net and my device would stop recognizing CF Cards.

If this can be fixed, I would love to go to this ROM as it seems to be faster that previous ROM.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
Works fine with mine both CF and SD are no issues.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] TexNY:
I have found this build to be almost perfect. Only thing I can't fix is Zipview. I tried associating .zip in Registry, to no avail. Only other nag is ActiveSync can't be killed -- keeps reloading, using 500+k of memory.

-- TexNY

hx4700

hx4705
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Megaduck99:
My activesync doesn't reload. Try using the Fake server trick, I did.

Also the Automatic brightness doesn't seem to work, or is it just me?

Oh and the navPoint service is still present...

Megaduck
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gwolford:
dpdurst

I loaded PhamQuang rom with the same problem. I then reloaded WM2003, same problem......

Looks like my hx4705 is failing.....

The connector looks good, both inside and out (under microscope), so no obvious failure mechanism.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tanfather:
Seems to me that SL61V3 is still perfect ROM for hx4700 except some error handlings.

Both Alkor_Beta3 and Alkor_rc has problem to install Japanese commercial IM(ATOK). Installation success, but does not work. All the files installed into \Windows can not open.

After copying files extracted from cab manually, it works the trick.

However either pushing reset pin or software reset by xpshutXp, back again unworkable. All the files can not open again.

Are there anyone who experienced as same as above?

I am still trying to identify the reason why...

---

hx4700 64M+128M WM5

hx4700 128M + 128M Alkor_rc
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
Yep works perfectly. Battery lasts a bit longer now.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] TexNY:
Silly me -- I forgot about the fake server trick for ActiveSync. Works fine now (no reload).

I use SKTools to stop the NavPoint service and set to Manual -- works fine.

Auto brightness doesn't work here either. Not important to me though.

Now if I could get Zipview to work, I'd be set. Not critical, but I like the ability to have zip files on storage cards. Let's me have extra junk to keep handy (mostly manuals and readme files, plus I use Street Atlas USA without a GPS and I can keep a ton of map files zipped for easy retrieval when I travel)

-- TexNY
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] arnoldg:
where can i download the new akor version, on the russian site i can't find it, my russian is not that good :)

maybee the is a link to the file, and i assume that his latest firmware is english.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
here is the rom and others.....

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/hpmain.htm
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] arnoldg:
is there a reason why my flash stops at 38%, i left for several houres and it's still at 38%

what to do ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] WODP:
Is there anyone who is capable of making WM6.1 for HP 21x?

Thanks to all developers!!