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[Shift General] cmonex:
why are you talking about WM2003? 128MB only recently started to be more common, since the athena and kaiser.

do you know what RAM and NAND are? how would they be the same? :O

and yeah, god knows why HTC chose to do this! :D
[Shift General] cmonex:
how to hard reset your brick? see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2051246#post2051246
[Shift General] rosrog:
cmonex, Daniel, and all the great guys out there, pls consider this. I installed skype on the winmo, and could make a call and be heard( through the 3G of course) but I could not be heard. Any thing to do to install the micropone on the winmo side? Also is it only through paypal we must donate? I want to donate to the shift project but dont have a paypal account. Any options for payment?
[Shift General] killer_t:
Only way is donate to the project, and wait the guis!!!

You can donate even if you do not have a paypal account,

you can use credit card without paypal registration..:D

here the link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=376111
[Shift General] rosrog:
I've tried already, it must go through paypal, a hectic ordeal. I have started the process with them anyway,cos I really want to contrbute to the good work you guys have done. you have enlightened me immensely, and I'm grateful. Hopefully, as soon as paypal verifies my details my contri should roll in. Many thanks.
[Shift General] spamcatch:
Hi CMonex,

thanks for the good work!. I would like to experiment a bit with my htc shift's GPS. Would you be so kind as to send me the GPS libraries? GPSTool alone does not work..

my address is spamcatch at hccnet dot nl
[Shift General] wg5566:
The idea of install the Office Mobile components indivisually is great, not everybody need all of them.

Can you do it for the latest build of Office Mobile for WM6.5?
[Shift General] boygenius:
I did the same thing...homescreen has carrier, owner information, and HTCHomePlug. Guess I shouldn't have unchecked SnapVue plugin, huh? :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
Daniel,

is theres some way we can send a email to ourself to have it execute mobile explorer with an attachment? or something along those lines? Anyone?
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
I don't want to send mine in either. The guy on the UK helpdesk said he will have a play to see if he can find a solution in the next couple of days. They've only had the shift for a week, which is about the same as me. I'll let you know.........
[Shift General] rpawly:
If i can find the file name for windows explorer on my treo i could email the file to myself and see if i can run it

or maybe someone could email shifthtc@gmail.com their shift explorer executable, im not sure that the name is explorer, but the file manager.
[Shift General] rpawly:
Hey boy,

Did you get yours back? snapvue that is.

You can hard reset using \windows\ClearStorage.exe, if needed....

if we can get mobile explorer running we could execute this file and hard reset, according to daniel.
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
I tried that. It's fexplore.exe in the windows directory. You can't run .exe files from email attachments.
[Shift General] rpawly:
mmm you can run a cab file from an attachment, if someone could make a cab that runs fexplorer.exe we would be all set. We just need to copy the fexplorer.exe to a dir and execute the file.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa924359.aspx.

i know squat about this stuff lol
[Shift General] rpawly:
can you email it to me shifthtc@gmail.com, trying to make a cab now.
[Shift General] rpawly:
interesting note, i have used the shift control program 2x in a row now and selected reset windows to factory defaults it reboots the shift but it doesnt reset anything that i can see on the vista side and the snapvue sides doesnt even blink during the process.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
POulook refuses to execute cabs directly. I am seaching other ways, link, etc....
[Shift General] rpawly:
thx daniel, i have tested here and my failure is not the same as his, i dont get notifications of new emails to pop up. i can access comm manager (with modem / flight mode) Connection settings, time and next appointment, power screen, backlight screen, and thats it :/ i may have in my ultimate wisdom turned off notifications lol, good lord, im retarded.
[Shift General] rpawly:
at least we know the shift control center/advanced/set windows to default (ie. EnvCfg.exe) ...... on the vista side DOES NOT WORK AT ALL!!
[Shift General] boygenius:
yeah I can access notifications and get into POutlook, just not the Today screen settings :)
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
not quite - it resets Vista settings to factory default -does nothing to SnapVue.
[Shift General] rpawly:
actually it doesnt reset vista, lol ive done it 3x now it does it thing reboots and everything is exactly the same on the VISTA side.

anyhow, there must be some key combination in conjunction with power on that will ask if you want the wmobile side to be reset for factory defaults, all htc phones have that no?
[Shift General] carolusx:
SD Card?

anyone seen if the SD card is accessible from WM6 side?

Cheers
[Shift General] rpawly:
its not ..... YET :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
On the phone with austrailia support, he asked me what i did, errr something about attachment and gibberish regarding screen flickering lol, .... before putting me on hold he asked if i did a "hard reset" i said i didnt know how to do that :) they got some lame music on hold ..........................................................you would think they would have a big list of things to do. 2 different support personnel in 2 different countries now have had me on old hold for about 20 mins today heh,.................. well he says he will email in .... not to long.... hard reset instructions. he said he will get 1 out and email me..not too long.. so we shall wait. Asia opens in a couple hours lol, ill call around the world till i get the correct response.
[Shift General] foxmeister:
Just tried it here and I've had no joy. To be honest, I rather suspect that the hardware isn't physically connected to the SnapVue/WM6 side of the device and it's most likely that it will never be possible to access it unless Vista is running - which would defeat the object totally IMHO, since I want to run WM6 to save battery life.

On the plus side though, I've just managed to install full Opera Mobile on it and it is working fine - looks like I shall have to buy a licence for it! I also managed to get the Citrix client working fine, which means that the only thing I can't now do on the device that I wanted to do is watch DivX under WM6, since there just isn't enough storage space available to hold any reasonably sized DivX files (without the SD card being available anyway).

Regards,

Dave
[Shift General] boygenius:
Ok, got snapvue back...all is well. I sort of don't remember the combination of what I pressed, but it involved holding down the right mouse click button, clicking on the 3G connection icon up top, and then pressing settings. That brought me to SnapVue settings instead of Connection Settings for some reason. Went to Start Menu folder, launched File Manager, selected Guava Bubbles which launched the Toay screen settings, and enabled the SnapVue homescreen plugin...let me know if this works for anyone
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Nice :)

Other big discover. I was on vista side and often 3G connection was on and off with the tray icon on and with red cross. Then I opened windows mobile cencer (on vista side) and It was connecting¡¡¡¡. Then I opened file explorer and I was seeing the windows mobile side¡¡. Then again, sound similiar to unplug usb device and It dissapèared and 3g connection was on again.

Its nice to know that we can control snap vue side from vista but I want to control it because I cant use 3g from vista (each 10 seconds switch from windows mobile connected to 3g connected)...any idea?. I dont know what I did.....
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Ok, I ve it¡¡¡

Open on vista side internet sharing (\windows\IntSHRIU.lnk). Status should be connected. Ok, you can surf on vista side. Now go to mobile side and click on disconnect on internet sharing side. Then on vista side you will listen usb tipical sound. Open windows mobile center and should be connecting and finally connected and you can manage windows mobile file system from vista side....Continue testing....
[Shift General] rpawly:
pressing right mouse button and pressing 3g or the signal strength button then settings takes me to connections settings.

do you have a sim in it?
[Shift General] Vs1979:
Sorry danielherrero, been up now 36hrs with work and brain not entirely playing ball. Could you properly step by step your vista/WM access.

Also can you note things like software installed on both sides(if relevant) and SIM in or not etc..

Cheers

Jim
[Shift General] rpawly:
i get no usb sound nor does windows mobile center connect

when i disconnect the 3g connection from wmobile the network icon disappears from vista and windows mobile device center says not connected forever
[Shift General] boygenius:
Yeah, I had an AT&T SIM in when I did it...try holding down the right mouse click button for a while (10 seconds), then hold the 3G icon until the status pops up, and click Settings...will try and recreate it on mine and let you know
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Step by step.

1) On vista side. Its 3g connected. Mobile center opened. IN settings "Allow usb connections" checked and "Allow connections from bluetooth" selected. Second combo set to "automatic". Rest of the checks and checked.

2) Swich to snapvue and execute \windows\IntShrUI.lnk, If status is not connected then press "Connect" left soft key.

3) Ensure vista side continues connected to internet (tray icon connected).

4) On windows mobile side press "disconnect" left soft key button of Internet sharing dialog.

5) Switch to vista side. Windows Mobile center should be connecting.....

And thats all. Now you can manage the windows mobile file system from vista. I ve repeated it several times. This morning I ve upgraded to SP1 but I dont think its related, isnt it?

Dani

Even I ve installed soti pocket contoller and I can control "remotelly" windows mobile side from vista side. These pictures have been take from vista side using pocket controller capture tool, controlling windows mobile side using pocket controller....
[Shift General] rpawly:
I tried 10, 15 and 20 seconds no dice.

Were you able to re-create?
[Shift General] rpawly:
Steps to try and recover SnapVue

Firstly try to Remove the battery and restart the handset.

If this fails please go into Snap View Mode and try to Tap in the bottom right hand corner of the Screen were the Settings button is meant to be located. If the Menu pops up please click on Clear Storage and follow the prompts.

There is a Hard Disk Recovery Method the process is directly out of the manual below.

5.2 Hard Disk Recovery

In case of system failure, Windows Vista® can be recovered to the hard disk by running the hard disk recovery utility. Before starting this utility, make sure to back up important data and files.

To run the hard disk recovery utility

1.

Shut down the Mobile Computer and then power it on again.

2.

At the start of the boot-up process, immediately press F3 to run the hard disk recovery utility.

3.

You will then see the following screen:

Recovery process is starting .....The process will delete all data on the hard drive.Do you want to terminate the process? (Y/N)104 Securing and Managing the Mobile Computer

Press N to continue with the hard disk recovery process. If you press Y, the hard disk recovery utility is terminated.

4.

The next message prompts you whether or not to rebuild the MBR (Master Boot Record) data:

Recovery process is starting .....The process will delete all data on the hard drive.Do you want to terminate the process? (Y/N) NDo you want to rebuild the MBR (Master Boot Record) data? (Y/N)

If, aside from drive C, you have created other partitions in the hard disk and you want to keep them, press N. If you press Y, your partitions will be deleted.

5.

A confirmation message then prompts you whether or not to continue. Press Y to start the hard disk recovery process. If you press N, the hard disk recovery utility is terminated.

6.

After the recovery process is complete, slide and hold the POWER/HOLD switch for about four seconds to shut down the Mobile Computer.
[Shift General] rpawly:
I am now running the hard disk recovery, I have asked HTC Australia to pursue the button combination hard-reset for the windows mobile side. I told them i knew like 10 people in the same boat as me.

my box is now running recovery and making partitions and running a program called ImageX, that was initiated by the command x:\windows\system32\cmd.exe -startnet.cmd (it took about 15 mins)

Well the command he gave only recovers the Vista partition back to factory defaults. It does nothing to Winmo. I have made him aware of this and pleaded for the hard-reset command.
[Shift General] rpawly:
UPDATE:

According to HTC the Reset SnapVUE button in Vista executes teh ClearStorage.exe Command. So this is not the hard reset we were hoping for. Ive hit that option about 20x and still the same results.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Its amazing that HTC didnt test how to hard reset windows mobile part:confused:, one of the most repeated action executed by windows mobile uers.. If he cant hard reset his device wihout take it to the shop then we have a big problem problem researching on how to convert snapvue to wm6. And sorry for all the problems rpawly :(
[Shift General] Vs1979:
rpawly,

I'm not sure if you have tried this, I havent quite read all the posts (sorry) but I had a similar problem when I first got into the file explorer. i.e launched theme changer and disabled SnapVUE.

Whenever I sent emails, they did not appear as notifications.

So i sent a text message to my SIM. Lo and behold a notifcation.

I selected reply and cancelled the message.

This then gave me access to the outlook email tool and the browser functionality that has become our saviour :-)

From here, I copied the whole Windows folder to My Docs. It errored, however, inside was one of the theme files.

I then copied separately the Startup folder to My Docs.

So to save on data usage, I created a new email included the theme file. Cancelled the send and receive, then moved file from drafts to inbox. This let me open the mail and "save as" to which I selected the My Docs\Startup folder.

Then using the browser functionality I copied and pasted the startup folder from My docs to Windows.

Yanked the battery out (hadnt been running Vista at this point :-)) and when powered back on, the startup process launched the theme manager and Today page settings.

Enabled SnapVUE and havent disabled again (although will resolve this once I get quickmenu installed etc)

Hope this helps...

Selected reply but cancelled the message.This left me in the email manager, I then managed to complete
[Shift General] danielherrero:
wow, nice solution¡¡. I was trying to copy the tsk to \windows\start to launch theme manager on startup but I didnt know how. Thanks¡¡:)
[Shift General] Vs1979:
Yep, you can really come up with some blinding ideas when are bricking yourself that you have bricked your lovely new toy :-)
[Shift General] cmonex:
one thing that would be really useful. i don't have a shift still, so can't try myself, but the question is, how to enter bootloader mode.

you need to find the key combination or if you have debugtools from a beta release shift (i will post that stuff, if it isn't posted yet), you can easily establish a virtual usb connection to vista. you can then use RUU or just plain activesync stuff.

with that, maybe enterbootloader.exe would work.

as for hard reset, the SPL version i got here does not have the hard reset key combination, it is simply a commented out function. but it can of course do a hard reset after it finishes flashing an image or if something has set the clearstorage config flag in nand.

before you ask... yes you can also hard reset from mtty using task 28. but again you must enter bootloader mode for that.

as for usual SPL capabilities... it has lots of MFG commands... hardspl might be based on this SPL if we don't find a better one. nice news: it is very clear it handles SD (yes you can load image from SD too).

BTW about the lack of key combo to hard reset, this SPL is old (not even version 1.0) and i haven't fully disassembled it yet anyway. so let's hope.

but again, if you can enter bootloader mode, and get vista to see the shift from mtty - you're in business. i will upload a mtty for shift vista soon.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hi.. You can see windows mobile side from vista. Even you can stablish a activesync connection from vista side. I explained it a few posts before. I hope It helps....

DAni
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
BRILLIANT!!!!!

It didn't quite work for me but this did:

- From messaging (I was lucky, I left the Windows live theme add-in there), I did the copy/paste of Windows\Startup directory to My Docs, using New Mail Message, Insert Picture, ctrl-c, ctrl-v.

- I then emailed myself a 3rd party file explorer program (.exe file) from Vista

- In snapvue saved this to My Docs\Startup

- In snapvue, create a new email and copy the My Docs\Startup back to Windows

- In Vista, Reset SnapVue

- One Snapvue has restarted, the file explorer is displayed on the screen. Navigate to the Windows directory and run any .THM file

- Put Snapvue back and press ok

- Run clear storage - obviously this is optional but, for me given the amount of rubbish I've tried to save to get SnapVue back, it seemed like a good idea.

Obviously, you are going to need a SIM card with data plan to do this.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I know how to modify sounds/notifications. (Why HTC set "no sound" for incoming mail???")

Just rename attached file to sounds.lnk (upload tool didnt let me upload lnk file), copy it to snapvue part (or email to you) and click on it. Now you can change the events....

I ve added too interesting links to other applets. For example Today theme changer, remove programs, etc
[Shift General] cmonex:
i've read all posts in this thread, but saw your solution doesn't work for some people, the usbtool in debugtools is explicitly intended for this purpose so maybe it'll work for everyone.

btw, if the shift has two keys to emulate softkey presses in WM (i don't remember right now, i only saw the shift for 5 mins so far :( ), then try pressing both while booting WM, that's the hard reset key combo for shift SPLs that have it compiled in - the one i was checking out in disassembler doesn't.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Yes, it isnt a easy way and when I use it to copy files I ve to reset Vista side if I want go gain 3g connections again....:o
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Even so, you've done some excellent work, and you've given a lot of people confidence that it can be done. Thankyou!
[Shift General] rpawly:
Ok this is going to work,

I tried to extract resco explorer and use it but it says its unsigned so i need a explorer program, mmmm a little help?
[Shift General] rpawly:
FYI:

I also put resco's cab file in the startup dir before copying it back and it installed on snapvue's restart. Although it didnt run the program after installing :(
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Try to send you a link to to Pocket Explorer....
[Shift General] rpawly:
daniel i got it just didnt know the name of any ;)
[Shift General] sbueschi:
VS 1979, a medal for you, it worked perfectly, Thanks!

Cheers, S
[Shift General] danielherrero:
:) I mean (sorry for my english). Instead of sending yourself a exe file, simply send you a link (remove .txt))to Windows File explorer and put in on \windows\startup...
[Shift General] rpawly:
i dled pexplorerarm.exe

renamed in dox to pexplorerarm

sent email to snapvue

sent sms to snapvue

saved as pexplorerarm.exe

did all the copying

restarted snapvue from vista

says pexplorerarm.exe is not a valid program

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[Shift General] Vs1979:
Rpawly,

Follow steps in

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2008609&postcount=21

to get a registry editor

Then the last bit of

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2008163&postcount=17

Then you can install any cabs you want. Including Resco.
[Shift General] rpawly:
Installing the cab was not the issue, getting resco to run after the install was :/ it installed fine but didnt "auto load" itself after installing
[Shift General] rpawly:
Ok guys back from Brickdom!!!

used the following steps. It was a combination of techniques :)

Originally Posted by tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk

BRILLIANT!!!!!

It didn't quite work for me but this did:

- From messaging (I was lucky, I left the Windows live theme add-in there), I did the copy/paste of Windows\Startup directory to My Docs, using New Mail Message, Insert Picture, ctrl-c, ctrl-v.

- I then emailed myself File Explorer.lnk from Vista

- In snapvue saved this to My Docs\Startup

- In snapvue, create a new email and copy the My Docs\Startup back to Windows

- In Vista, Reset SnapVue

- One Snapvue has restarted, the file explorer is displayed on the screen. Navigate to the Windows directory and run any .THM file

- Put Snapvue back and press ok

- Run clear storage - obviously this is optional but, for me given the amount of rubbish I've tried to save to get SnapVue back, it seemed like a good idea.

Obviously, you are going to need a SIM card with data plan to do this.

Thks to Everyone that helped out with this. Sooooo Much
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
Anyone figured out how to stop the snapvue dlls running on startup? They put the black bars back on the screen and disable the start menu.
[Shift General] rpawly:
Daniel already has a different today screen running.
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
Yes. But if you reboot, the today screen reverts to the snapvue theme and the start menu and softkeys are hidden.

Not a big issue - it just looks a bit weird.

:confused:
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Snapvue is deployed as a Windows Mobile Service.

1) Copy TaskMgr

2) Open Services tab.

3) Change it to disabled.

4) And reset device....

Thats all.....:D
[Shift General] rpawly:
Oh i had thought he already had it loading that way, i guess i assumed
[Shift General] rpawly:
ask and ye shall recieve :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
tito or daniel you guys want to put that into instruction form, i know daniel is soft on english, although not bad at all :)
[Shift General] danielherrero:
It isnt too complex.

1) Install quickmenu to ensure you can use Start button.

2) Ensure and reensure you can use use it.

3) Send to you today.lnk posted before to open Theme manager. Uncheck snapvue theme and snapvue item.

4) Restart device (QuickMenu has a handy option to reboot device).

5) Copy TaskMgr.exe (link is in this forum...dont remember where) using email system.

6) WARNING(DONT DO THIS STEP. ONLY TO TEST PRETTY START BUTTON).Run it, go to "Services" tab. Select "SnapVue(SVT0:0)" item and then select "Disable". Restart device......

Its not a good idea to stop this sevice because you can lose 3g contectivity from vista and maybe other needed thigs. You will have to live with a black "Start Button"....

pd. Its a good idea to put a link to quickmenu in \windows\startup to ensure its execution...
[Shift General] rpawly:
daniel after installing quickmenu should we see the start button up there? or just by running the executable from the file manager?
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Quickmenu is excellent, has an option to start with Windows, which is ticked by default.

It gives you access to everything.

I have no visible Start button, but it is there, just click on it.
[Shift General] rpawly:
got it ur right not there but is clickable :))