yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dschingis1:
Report - wm6.1 + wpa working

Hi,

1st: thanks and everything

Just to sum up my experience and spare followers some reading of the thread pages. Means, nothing new to discover in this post.

I upgraded to wm6.1 using the "recommended" ROM from http://www.winmobile.us/ form the forum user dpdurst.

This one:	"HP iPAQ PPC WM6.1 Rom build 21054 - Alkor build 21054 very stable build and fast!"

After the upgrade i too could observe that wpa did not work. So i used the patch introduced in this thread by bulesz:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3257845&postcount=1669

The Process went as follows:

I used the bootloader.exe as described by dpdurst. The process hang up at 38% which, as i found out, is normal. I disconnected the device and proceeded as described.

Afterwards install the wpa patch as described.

Best regards

DschingisOne
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sieradz628:
hx4700 - WPA2

Hey, tell me how I can connect to the HP hx4700 wifi network with WPA2 encryption? I tried various methods, but none really did not bring the expected results:(

Thanks for your help :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
Not on wm6.1. Use Spiaatie's 6.5 and you can use WPA2 TKIP.... no AES.

That's about it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sieradz628:
Thanks for your reply.

I used this ROM 6.5.3 and WM 6.5, both by Spiaatie's, but still could not connect to WPA2, now I have WM 6.1 rc to Alcor, it is possible in this ROM? ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kadmon:
Arrgh - no WPA2/AES!

Yetserday I put Spiaatie's 6.1 ROM on my old dust-gathering hx4700 and was blown away by how easy it was to do... So..

Number 1: MANY THANKS to Spiaatie and his colleagues/collaborators on this board...

Number 2: Arrgh! I just assumed it would handle WPA2/AES no problem! Really disappointed that it doesn't and it's back to the dust-gathering for my 4700...

I live in the City Centre and just can't go back to TKIP on my home router - there are dozens of APs visible in my area and lots of students - I'd be hacked in no time... From what I have read, WPA/TKIP cracking is at the stage of idiot-proof click-here-to-crack apps - i.e. its not like its cracked in theory but would take 3 weeks to crunch. And I assume that holds for WPA2/TKIP. In any case, my WRT54GS only seems to have AES and TKIP+AES dropdowns for WPA2 Personal.

- Does anyone know whether this is a 4700 hardware limitation (I believe WPA2/AES often offloads work to h/w) or whether we can ever expect this?

- I'm willing to be reeducated that WPA2/TKIP is secure...

(and sorry to sound ungrateful for the spectacular work of getting the ROM out in the first place)

kadmon
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] worby9:
Hi, I received the last week this old nice machinne; have the 6.5 spiaatie´s rom but I want downgrade to the original wm5 rom, how I can do it? where I can find the original rom? thanks, Roberto.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DavidinCT:
Look on the link on first page...it has a link to the original roms...

I'm selling my HX4700 look up on the forsale threads or look up my posts I started...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] worby9:
Thanks for your answer but all the links on the first page are dead! I look in the HP page but just are the upgrades, not the original and complete rom to downgrade. I hope anybody can help me. Roberto.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dkena:
Hello,

please link to ROM SL61V3_lite link.

Or other old WM 6.1 ROM for iPAQ HX4700.

Thank you.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FinlStrm:
I too am looking for a WM6.1/6.5 ROM for my iPaq hx4700. Links would be hella awesome.

Seems as though all the links I find in other threads are dead.

Thanks!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] h.n.c.cox:
Where is the BootLoader.exe

Can anyone please provide a working link to the BootLoader.exe

My iPAQ is stuck and I need it ...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] klau1:
Let me know if it worked for you.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] arek_aras:
Hi,

I have HX4700 with WM2003SE and I'm looking for upgrade to WM6 or WM6.1. Links with ROMs are death. Can any one help me??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] toja56:
Pagepool is what largeness?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
Modifications were done to the algasystems ROM on post.. 110 I believe. So pagepool is same.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Da_G,

Great work! Would you like me to add this now to post#1 or should I wait for your further changes on imgfs?

EDIT: Already added it!

Please note, since PDAVIET's variations are now one of several WM6.1 ROMshere, I'm planning to change the name of this thread to "HX4700 WM6.1 ROMs". Will do this on March 8.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gregy74:
Da_G your ROM is great. With your ROM Resco today plugin works again.

Response of my 4700 is really fast. Everything works great.

I can see that build is 19716.1.1.0

I just noticed something. Before I get 240% average speed-PDAVIET ROM (benchmark in Coreplayer) and now I get just 170%. But I prefer this ROM.

Thanks Da_G.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
Interesting, I wonder what method coreplayer is using to determine speed. It certainly doesnt "feel" 70% slower..

Perhaps one of the older dll's was chosen by pdaviet for it's faster speed (at the cost of stability)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mykie:
try to download it but rapidshare say, enabel java script, it is enabled.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
It happened to me. I updated Java and, presto!!

Good luck
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gregy74:
But I don't care about that. Everything what is more than 150 % is ok for me.

Your ROM is really great and faster than PDAVIET ROM. Thanks again.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Thanks (for this and your ROM), though clearly I am missing something?

[Selected Path]
C:\a\dump

[Core OS]

[Versions]

[Language]

[DPI]

[Certificates]

[Missing Manifests]
5a5fc519-da01-4e7d-a9da-00a4648f24bc.dsm
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
If you are showing that, it means the .dsm (and most likely .rgu's) have been removed from the build by the person who made it - i've never seen an OEM build like that so i'm gonna guess your base ROM has already been cooked, in which case no splitting it into packages without the .dsm's.. some cooks remove the .dsm's for a number of reasons, typically to save space (.dsm and .rgu are not required during the operation of the system, only during the build process) - also could be to obfuscate the ROM to make it harder to use as a base. Or they might not even be aware that the tools they are using are stripping the .dsm and .rgu's out (some kitchens do this)

You could take the .dsm's from whatever ROM that build is based on, and copy/paste them, and that will split most of the files (but not the ones the cook added, and it won't restore the .rgu's so you are going to have difficulty modifying the registry)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mykie:
you are right, did also update java, dont understand why they say you need to enable java because it was enabled. Give then the warning update you java.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
DA_G

The fsreplxfilt does not appear to be loaded (no replstorvol shown in database list in SKTOOLS).

Any ideas?

Also, can you explain how you extracted/remade the XIP?

Thanks

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
Hmm, should be loading, it's being called normally in the XIP registry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt]
"ReplStoreHostVolume"=""
"ReplStorePath"="\\ReplStorVol"
"ReplStoreName"="ReplStor"
"ReplStoreDoImmaculate"=dword:0
"ReplStoreCacheSize"=dword:0
"NumDirsToExclude"=dword:f
"DirsToExclude"=multi_sz: "\\mxip_initdb.vol",
"\\mxip_system.vol",
"\\mxip_notify.vol",
"\\mxip_lang.vol",
"\\cemail.vol",
"\\pim.vol",
"\\Documents and Settings\\default\\user.hv",
"\\Documents and Settings\\system.hv",
"\\Windows\\Profiles\\guest\\Temporary Internet Files\\",
"\\Windows\\Profiles\\guest\\Cookies\\",
"\\Windows\\Profiles\\guest\\History\\",
"\\Windows\\Activesync\\",
"\\windows\\messaging\\",
"\\Temp\\",
"\\Windows\\System\\PushRouter\\clientqueues.vol"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\MSFlash\FATFS\Filters\fsreplxfilt]
"dll"="fsreplxfilt.dll"
"order"=dword:1 ; must be loaded before other filters

Was it being loaded in algasystems version? Maybe the newer dll I brought over is having some compatibility issues.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
Yep - was okay in the algasystems version. I checked the registry with the algasystems one and they the same. So, I would guess a file incompatibility issue - you ported the new filesys, but was the filter dll from the previous ROM?

Thanks

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vivi:
Dear Da_G,

I dump your ROM and find that no rgu and dsm files.

If you have , please send to me and I will make a new ROM Kitchen for WM 6.1.

For making our devices better.

Thanks.

vivi
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello Da_G,

Unfortunately, the PDAVIET rom used as the base for all of these already removed the .dsm and .rgu files so they are not available. I'm still looking elsewhere...! If I find one with them, will pass them on.

Thank you for your efforts. It is really great to see the level of help that everyone on this thread is providing to develop a perfect WM6.1! Wonderful.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
vivi, I did not modify the imgfs, so the .dsm's and .rgu's are still missing (because it's algasystem's modified version of sanjay's modified version of PDAVIET's modified version :) )

I intend to recreate the imgfs partition based on 19199 professional when I get a chance, so that will have full .rgu and .dsm with it..

I've tried both PDAVIET and 19199 fsreplfilt, and neither one will load up, i'll probably step through the XIP again with that in mind and find out exactly where the conflict is. Are you seeing negative consequences by the fsreplfilt not being loaded? I have not noticed anything so far..

Time is short for me this weekend, so I will probably not get a chance to work on it again until monday. But I will be hovering around on the thread to help with any questions I might be able to answer :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
You are right about the rgus and dsms, it was your ROM. :-)

Didn't you say that you had the original base ROM at your disposal?

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
To all members (kitchens & cookers) thanks for all your energy you put into make new ROMS for the HX4700 :)

I thauhgt the chapter was closed after the dead of Kozhoura 's pda :( ... bu NO, the episode continous :).

Not easy to choose wich ROM ;)

(Have 128 Mb RAM ... any suggestion ?)

So now (for this moment) I'm using the Rom of our friend Da_G.

May the FORCE be with YOU.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] WODP:
Also my thanking to all who put energy and efforts and help so unselfishly.

As it conserns hx4700 - the best PDA ever, is alive with your help, so i'm very grateful.

Thank you friends!!!

I would like to ask for advice which of this wm6 mod. versions is the best by your experience?

Can someone write short review of + and - of these versions (someone who tested them). I have Kozhuras last rom with touch pad disabled and it works great. Are those roms in any way better as it considers performance?

Thank you for all replies and keep up the good work.

respect, WODP
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] enigma460:
I just tried the Da_G rom and couldn't get the WiFi to connect.

Went back to Sanjay rom and no problems with WiFi.

Don't know why it wouldn't connect.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
wifi works fine ... have you tried a manual wifi-connection?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
newbie question

:confused: Am I supposed to convert nbf files to nba before using the mamaich's imgfs tools? I read other tutorials that said so but with this rom I can't figure out how. I know about xda3nbf tool but I can't figure it out. (parameters etc) Thanks for any help.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
No need to convert to nba ipaqshaq :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
Wow, thanks. That was quick! :) btw Probably getting ahead of myself here but is there some difference between the vivi kitchen and just using the mamaich tools? I guess what I'm asking is, what exactly is a "kitchen" ? You guys have said earlier in the thread how it was difficult to make a kitchen from this rom without rgu or something but isn't this imgfs stuff a kitchen too? :confused: Thanks again. Great thread/community here.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Huck33:
thank you so much

great job

:D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
Out of all the different machines, is there one which is the closest to the hx4700 so that I can concentrate on that tutorial? Many of the tutorials for cooking are written for certain PDAs like the wallaby, blue angel, etc. I'm not sure what applies to the hx4700 and what doesn't. Thanks for any advice on what to read.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Thread Name Change

All,

Since this thread has now gone beyond the PDAVIET roms, I intend to change the name to "HX4700 WM6.1 ROMs", in keeping with the content.

Hope this doesn't mess up anyone. New name tomorrow.

Regards

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Linus_18:
i just want to ask this.

if i add some app to a rom, can i free ram ?

is this good for device ?

do the app work fast if i do this ?

on my hx4700 with wm6 from kozhura, battery now has a duration time of 24 hours, with wm2005 i hadn't this problem, and battery had duration time of 60 hourse.

do someone knows the cause of this?

it seems that some services don't stop when the device is in standby, so battery is fast drained.

i think i'll do a sprite or spb backup and will try wm6.1 da G, looking if this problem has gone and mainly if my 4gb sd card will be recognized (on sanjay and algasystem roms this doesn't happen).

if not....then i think i'll go back to wm6....newer isn't always better :-D

LAST: if someone interested, HTC ZIP app cab file is available if you search the HTC apps and is a nice application working fine on hx4700. other apps need to be certificate so not working i've seen.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
Linus, close the "background running" programms with TMAN ... freeware: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-tman-v0-9-9.html

small & easy :)

Also use the tips from the SBSH forum , post #8

http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showtopic=11823

This works in my case ... it's the activesync issue.

btw, I stopped after nr.3

Not sure about those reg. hacks in nr. 4 (those were made for WM5 ... )
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
Da_G rom is working well for me. Thanks Da_G!

Did you use the so called BigStorage Tools for cooking this?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Cerdito:
Yesterday I tried Da_g and it works great, also WiFi, no problems at all.

I also updated Net CF 2.0 to NETCF3.5 and that works good, it seems to be faster, but that is only the feeling that I have.

Great Job, Da_g.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Cerdito:
Those Reg.Hacks works for Da_g WM6.1 no problem at all
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
To answer my own question on extracting the XIP section, this is quite useful:

http://www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=40125&fpage=3

Andy

Edit: but I can't get rommaster to work!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Toymanx:
Hi

After flashing the latest WM6.1 Ifound it to be a little unstable, at least on my device. Probably it`s just a incompatibility with some software titels I use.

Has anyone similar problems?

It would be great if someone could build a version without additional stuff, like

the never used iTask, HP´s security software and the "How do I" tutorial.

greetings....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Cerdito:
Working with the Da_g Rom now, its working great but it fails to turn on Blue tooth.

Getting following error, The Bluetooth radio failed to turn on due to insufficient driver memory available, You must perform a soft reset.

But after soft reset I have the same problem, anybody knows how to fix this.

Thx.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
Did you install TomTom?

You may have dodgy application-replaced btcoreif and btsdkce30 dlls.

Rename them (use resco explorer) in \windows, soft reset, and then delete the renamed files. (this will restore the ROM versions).

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Cerdito:
Thanks Ramsses for your quick anwser, yes I installed TomTom and after deleting the two dll-files its working.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
This is my aim.

I tried removing the Enroller Customer Experience, PIE (I use Opera instead), Powerpoint (a personal hate of mine!), Excel (never use it on the PDA), etc. and whilst it booted, the icons went all wrong. :o

I'll keep at it, but if we had that library of what each file did, that should make things easier.

However, I note that you don't use iTask, I do, so my ROM wouldn't be any good for you on that one alone, but if it was easy enough to do your own... :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Nobody else who is more knowledgable than me going to answer? :p

I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong, but I see a kitchen as an easier to use version of 'just using the mamaich tools'. The kitchen uses the same tools, just it does it without you needing to type commands into the command line.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
Steps to edit XIP beginning with .nbf:

1.) Strip first 80A27 bytes from file, leaving nb: (New file starts with E9FDFF00)

2.) Use msflshtool.exe to seperate XIP from nb: msflshtool.exe filename.ext -d -p 1

3.) Use xipport.exe to extract XIP, rename filename.ext.part1 to xip.bin and click "dump xip.bin"

4.) Make your modifications (be sure and re-base any modules you bring over from other ROM's, and pay attention to .txt files as modification is needed there as well)

5.) Use xipport.exe to write xip_out.bin

6.) Pad xip_out.bin to same size as original xip (pad with FFFF, once you have padded xip_out.bin once every time you build xip_out.bin after that the tool with leave the padding, so you only need to do this once and leave the file there)

7.) Use msflshtool.exe to write XIP back to .nb: msflshtool.exe filename.ext -r xip_out.bin -p 1

8.) Replace original 80A27 bytes that were stripped, you now have .nbf with modified XIP :)

Note that most any error in the XIP will result in a no-boot situation, but recoverable by flashing a working ROM. So mistakes are costly in terms of time (flashing takes a while!)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
My understanding is the kitchen implies each module (with its associated registry - RGU - files and dlls etc.) is explicitly separated so it can be incrementally and selectively combined. What we are doing here is taking an existing set of ROMs and combining the dlls, exe etc. by hand - there isn't a handy gui where you can select which module you want. Also, the registry is necessarily hand crafted too. So by using the extract/rebuild tools, we are making a ROM, but it isn't a kitchen, more a roadside burger van!

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
Cheers - exactly what I was looking for! :)

Any joy with the ReplStore problem?

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Yes, that too. ;)

The package tool is no use on the PDAViet Rom to in effect make a kitchen. :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
Have not looked at it since I tried filter from PDAVIET ver, busy weekend, and my PDA is in use :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
So that explains why the bepe tool didn't seem to do anything on this one. Thanks again. :)

...Da_G's post has raised the bar, this stuff looks intimidating, must go read more. Any particular tutorials or readmes you guys could suggest that are the closest aligned with hx4700? I thought maybe the blue angel wiki because it originally came with WM2003SE like ours did but, it's got a different processor and had more ram.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Our needs

Ok, so as I see it reading the past few pages on this thread, our objectives are:

1. Find a working rom that can be corroborated to be the latest build (I assume, preferably from a VGA device) with the RGU files we need

2. Port this to the 4700. Yes, it looks like DA_G is the person to do that.

3. Build a Kitchen.

Have I got that right?

Not sure if anyone looked at the WM6.1 ROMs for the Universal. I'm wondering if any of these have the needed files to make them "portable" to the 4700. With VGA already built in, might be easier than sourcing from QVGA devices.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cook:
HX4700 Dead

I upload ROM sk61v02_8.zip play a little with my PDA reinstall all my softwares, realVGA, resco, spb, tomtom and co.

All was OK

at one time can't switch Bluetooth on "driver insufficient memory"

try soft reset : same

try hard reset, stay on "cleaning" a long long time

try soft reset again: dead. Impossible to power it on.

any advice or help will be greatly apreciated.

thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
See post # 257

Did you install TomTom?

You may have dodgy application-replaced btcoreif and btsdkce30 dlls.

Rename them (use resco explorer) in \windows, soft reset, and then delete the renamed files. (this will restore the ROM versions).

Andy

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cook:
Hx4700 not dead :) Not dead and Yes for the bluetooth I just install TomTom version 6.032.8531. with previous 6.030.8320 was OK

Thanks for this tomtom Info, I will try.

By the way I update ROM to nk.rar post#219. can I safely restore backup (spb backup) from backup taken with ROM sk61v02_8.zip post#151 ?

Thanks for your great work !!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
I've been merrily restoring backups on each rom from this thread.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
Second crash

Hi all,

I just want to report my second severe crash within a week.

Like the other time, started with a freeze (non responsive to anything), I soft resetted and then blank screen. Tried many soft reset,, still blank screen. I had to remove the battery couple of seconds and then went back to life.

This occur with ROM sk61v02_8.

Questions

Is it possible that this is related to filesys kicks in?

It seems to happen when available memory is low (less than 10mb)

Lucky, I didn't loose anything.

Any suggestions?

Regards,

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello Da_G,

Not sure if you have seen this post. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=58124&st=390 Your rom has made its way to Russia, and Kozhura (yes the master) has made a comment that I'm afraid I can only read through Google Translate. You may want to see if this is helpful for your builds.

Kozhura appears to now be making roms for the E-Ten 800, so we may be able to get a base rom through that route for continued 4700 development. As I wish I could read Vietnamese, I also wish I could read Russian!!:(

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
I have no idea what all the files are for, but what was fsdspy.dll for (sounds rather unnecessary and unwanted?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
He doesn't seem impressed?

ceddk.dll - This module does not change the meaning, and it is in 5.2 and 5.1
had no distinctions

certmod.dll - same as 1 - e

initvmmap.exe - the module is generally unnecessary to poketah he
kommunov for NTS

fsdspy.dll - but it is better not to remove, with progress will be disrupted,
I malformed

Still, Da_G's ROM works...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
The main issue is that there is no caching on the internal FLASH ROM - the replstore problem - so this is much slower than it should be. Da_G is aware and will no doubt sort it out.

Andy