yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello

No , Im not using Gmail with OUTLOOK , I only use with my internet pop 3 provider account , for gmail account Im use netfront browser or opera mini

Thank you for yours response , can you tell me something about?

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Linus_18:
issues with kozhura 6.1 mod. ramses v.1a

fast battery drain issue, so i turned back to phamquang old version, though this has less free ram.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mr Joshua:
i'll hazard a guess of it being a driver compatibility issue? it's possible that the older core was found to be more stable with the drivers, etc. that were being used?

i'll give it a go and see what shakes loose..

all i get when extracting the nbf is
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Thank you for taking the time to do some tests. The files have a password without which you will see the errors you saw. The password to uncompress them is: PhamQuang.

Hope this helps.

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mr Joshua:
not a problem i've got all my software on an SD, and my job has alot of down time that i use to test all the roms and software posted on xda and other forums. i like testing them out, posting issues that i've found so they can be fixed, giving something back to the community. i kind of wish i had another hx4700 so i could test more than one rom or combination of software at once.. like the IRD issue, etc.. eventually i'll hopefully get to the point were i can actually fix some of the issues that crop up.

i entered the password in Vietnamese doh! :D

Edit:

i changed the initial 8MB pagepool file to a 4MB with Modpp.exe

and flashed PhamQuang's v26 rom to my 64Meg HX4700.

seems just as quick as all the other WM6.1 roms. also looks to have a custom boot screen.

it also has a few added programs. psShutXP, PHM Registry Editor, Synchro Time and USB HDD.

booted up fine after doing two hard resets just like all the other roms.

i'll post more after i've had some time to look at it fully.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Sorry I can't.

I use gmail, but I forward most gmails (not some exceptions) to my isp email account which I can access via pop on my hx4700.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
PhamQuang does seem to like the custom screen and the other programs. I may share a clean version of this. But this takes time, so I would be interested in knowing if this ROM adds value over earlier versions in either performance or function.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mr Joshua:
the only thing it seems to be lacking so far is a good cleaning psShutXP is kind of pointless at least in my opinion.

it's missing Remote Desktop Connection which i use fairly frequently.

but i tested his rom for awhile yesterday and the wifi issues seemed to be resolved when compaired with kozhura's rom and it's mods. i'm not sure what he's done. but it's been rock stable for me so far.. i'll have to compair it with andy's new v1g to be sure..

i've just downloaded spb backup so i'll post up that data as well when i have time.

cheers

~J
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] engner:
I like this new ROM, very responsive. I feel that it's more stable (until now), than the previous version.

Acrobat Reader and other programs work well (this ROM contains .NET v3.5 not v2.0 like Kozhura's),

but I found two issues:

- I was unable to connect to my hidden WiFi AP using PWA-PSK TKIP

(problem solved with wzcsvc.dll found at post #545)

- Battery life was very poor with my brand new third party extended battery

(I tried different battery driver dll-s, but none of them worked. Then I installed "hx4700 MISC XIP_ENG.PPC300_2577.cab" file and after hard reset battery indicator worked properly, however responsiveness is much worse now)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elparra72:
New Ramsses update 1g (based on Kozhura R5 ROM)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=398762&page=30

Post 299

Downloading.........................
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mr Joshua:
when comparing phamquongs rom to andy's modded kozhura v1g rom

phamquong's is defiantly quicker. it doesn't require waiting for filesys.exe to catch up. however i can't seem to understand why it seems to randomly turn Bluetooth & WIFI off and on randomly. it seems to have the same issue as every other rom i've tested, once you configure a connection and try to connect w/ it. it fails and goes back to available re-connecting again sometimes fixes it but more than likely you'll have to turn wifi off and on.

it seems to recover quicker and more stable from resume than previous roms as well. i tried to run SPB Benchmark on it. i got to the opening pocket word document test and it went into a loop.. would only do 1/13 of that test. hrmm

the custom boot screen and included software was a nice touch, PHM registry editor, and the synchro time. but does anyone really use USB hdd ? and psShutXP? Remote Desktop is also missing but btphone is there? Cipchase2.exe is also absent from this rom, or doesn't start at all. could that be attributed to this roms seemingly increased speed?

heres the memory

Hx4700 64MB bare, bluetooth/wifi = off, CEOS WM6.1 PhamQuong v26

Storage

Total: 82.59MB

In use: 5.48MB

Free: 77.1MB

Program

Total: 58.31MB

In use: 28.91MB

Free: 29.40MB

seems to be a little more bulky than kozhura's with or without andys mods

would be nice to see some of the speed increases and changes made by PhamQuong implimented in andys modifications of Kozhura's rom.

or possibly even kozhura himself colaborating with phamquong.. might be benaficial to xda and the hx4700 community. wishes i suppose..

but for now i'll be flashing andy's v1g and testing that.

if anyone modify's phamquongs let me know and i'll retest it. also let me know which tests you'd like to see done with the roms. and i'll impliment them into my reviews so it'll give people an idea if it's worth it to them to try a new rom. also it would be nice if the people cooking the roms were to have a change log added into the rar file for the roms. so changes could be kept track of. :)

keep up the good work guys

looking forward to testing more roms.

~J
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Puzom:
@Mr Joshua

Hi,

Seems you have tested a lot of roms. Which rom you advise to a newbie as me? Running WM2003 SE 64MB ram PDA.

My most concern is to lose free memory, now hav 40 MB main memory and not sure if wm6.1 give me less.

Any idea when you have tested andy's v1g versione? Was about to flash that rom but rather wait as you testing now ;)

cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Mr Joshua , can you tell us something about Algasys 1710 rom

thank you , its a big work
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mr Joshua:
i've tested pretty much all of the roms released since i started posting here at the beginning of this month, with exceptions like sanjay's rom and alga systems. but i never posted reviews about them and only recently have been reviewing roms, as i don't mind re-flashing my device multiple times and re-installing software. as for a new user, it would depend on what your using your device for, if you want stability, sanjay's served me well for a number of days without any issues. alga systems was also another good choice. andy's v1g which i am in the process of on and off again reviewing, is also a good choice. most of the differences between andys modded versions of kozhura's RK5 are in this thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=398762

which i've posted in and posted the issues i've found. some issues seem to appear in all the roms i test, like wifi refusing to connect after turning on wifi for the first time. but connects right away on the second try. same with the random occurrence of infinite re-connect loop after suspend.

i'd say that andys v1g has the best all around performance/stability. however if you want a rom that was made specifically for the hx4700 you'll need to find the wm 2005 upgrade from HP. and like everything else it's kind of bloated and doesn't give the best memory allocation, program offerings and latest software/drivers as the unofficial cooked wm6.1 roms.

make sure whichever rom you go with you use chris's non gui bootloader tool

which information on can be found here.

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=243857

and downloaded from here

http://www.freetrafficsite.com/BootLoader.exe

and modpp.exe

which can be downloaded from here

http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/906881/modpp.exe

how to use the program

i put it in the same directory i put the bootloader into

C:\bootloader

extract the rom you downloaded into C:\bootloader

you'll then have to open up a command console

Start -> Run-> cmd

CD \bootloader

then follow the above quoted directions to change the pagepool size to either 4MB or 4.5MB for your 64meg device. seems to work quicker for day to day tasks.

then run bootloader.exe and follow the prompts and instructions on the bootloader instruction page

sure i just flashed it to my device this morning as some changes to phamquangs and andys v1g roms didn't go so well.. registry modifications are always a challenge.. :)

i'll post up some basic data on algasystems rom a little later today

Edit1:

Hx4700 64MB bare, bluetooth/wifi = off, Algasys 1710

Storage:

Total: 82.59MB

In use: 2.44MB

Free: 80.15

Program:

Total: 58.31MB

In use: 20.86MB

Free: 37.45
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Puzom:
@Mr Joshua

Thank you for the clear reply :)

I've been doing some research and decided to use Andy's v1g (Thanks Andy for this ROM ;))

Used the bootloader from Chris and already had some issues installing the Vista drivers, as my system does not have wmdc.exe, but has wmdSync.exe.....so after looking on this forum i added the driver manually and all worked.

Flashed the ROM and after hard reset...waiting a bit....soft reset...waiting a bit.....hard reset once more and it booted with a nice 6.1 screen :).

Been testing it for some time and all seems to be OK, free RAM about 35 MB so that's OK.

Indeed i also have the WIFI drop on first connection and on second run it is working stable, so only the first connect is disconnected right away. Odd.

Bluetooth is working fine....yet very rarely I get the automatic bluetooth starting after soft reset, only happens when i used bluetooth before the soft reset. (note that i turned bluetooth OFF before soft resetting).

Perhaps I will test some other ROMS to that will come out after Andy's v1g, as I hardly install software into the RAM, most runs from SD card.

Just to get it confirmed, Andy's v1g is the latest ROM to date right?

Does this ROM come with an 8 MB pagepool?

Cheers.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mr Joshua:
it comes with a 4.5MB pagepool

andys latest is v1g

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=398762&page=30 post# 299

based off of kozhura's latest release

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=398762
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Puzom:
@Mr Joshua

Ok just thought huh v2g....;)

And is it wise to change the 4.5 pagepool to either 4 or 8? Where should I noticed the difference?

Cheers!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mr Joshua:
edited :D v1g

i left mine at 4.5 i wouldn't think you'd notice much w/ .5MB

the 8MB pagepool seems to work better for 128MB modified hx4700's as they have more ram to utilize..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Puzom:
@Mr Joshua

Ok thanks for the info on the pagepool. Will leave it at 4.5 as it runs OK for me.

Sofar it runs as good as the original WM2003 SE ROM I had before, so nothing lost only gaining with the new WM6 sofware tools that don't run on WM2003 nomore ;)

Cheers.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Thank you Mr Joshua , as I see all roms have the same litle issue with WIFI , Im work with Algasys 1710 , its very very stable and all soft that I have test works fine , BT with activesync , BT A2xx earphones , BT GPS , BT in point to point net , etc the only issue that i cant solve yet its with outlook , incoming mails force to old mails dissapear from screen and goes to messaging folder en CF and I can t see anymore , but all are in this folder , i try all settings , from the past 7 days , all messages etc ....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Puzom:
@ Mr Joshua

Hi,

As you tested the ROMS and mentioned you have this WiFi issues with the first connect attempt failing (which I also have), yet I noticed that when you do the first attempt and then just wait for say 5-10 sec, you see the wifi starting automatically and it connects right away.

Does this happen at your side too? if so then i think it's by design as I've found this post on another board:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=84825&postcount=442

Perhaps anyone else knows if these ROMS have this by design?

Cheers!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mr Joshua:
I’m not sure what that issue, would be, I’m using kozhura’s modified rom by andy v1g w/ exchange push mail over Open WEP b/g wifi without any issues.

When I get ready to reflash my hx4700 after my vacation this week, I’ll flash algasys 1710 rom to it and configure mail on it and see if I’ve got the same issue

I’m not sure it’s by design as I’ve found other issues.

I’m positive that after suspending the device by pressing the power button quickly. After I resume it by hitting the power button again, Bluetooth randomly doesn’t start, or wifi is off according to the lack of the today screen icon and the nice X in the upper task bar and in the tray icon. clicking on the settings button in the IPAQ Wireless screen and it brings me to the “configure network adapters” screen but it has no tab for the “configure wireless networks” menu. But the button for wifi in the “IPAQ Wireless” screen is tan, like it’s turned on.

There are other issues to be resolved with wifi/Bluetooth/IRD in these roms.

Which I can fully understand as

#1. WM6.x has only been out since april? 3 months tops?

#2. WM6.1 was never intended to run on the hx4700

#3. No one seems to have all the OEM files needed to build a rom specifically for the hx4700

#4. All the roms coming forth seem to be deconstructed upgrades from companies like HTC, etc..

#5. The roms being cooked are using some pre-release software, from M$’s Codename Crossbow WM 6.x or WM5

Better roms would be released faster if the community as a whole worked together to share information about the roms being cooked, similar to the way the open source community rallies around *nix and BSD. Repairs could be made that much quick if people didn’t employ encryption techniques while building their roms and released all the files needed to modify and re-cook them. As people are only human and no matter how hard they try, mistakes are still made, and idea’s can always be improved upon.

The roms that are being cooked have come a long way, and I give full credit to the people cooking them, as I’ve just started attempting it, and even with vivi’s kitchen, it’s an intimidating processes, takes a lot of dedication and trial and error to get things running even close to right.

So the more detailed information that’s made available the better. All the information people post here about the issues they have with the roms will help the people interested in either upgrading their devices, when improving on cooked roms, or cooking better roms.

So lets keep this alive and free, to improve the roms!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
I’m not sure what that issue, would be, I’m using kozhura’s modified rom by andy v1g w/ exchange push mail over Open WEP b/g wifi without any issues.

When I get ready to reflash my hx4700 after my vacation this week, I’ll flash algasys 1710 rom to it and configure mail on it and see if I’ve got the same issue

Hello Mr Joshua

Sorry , I dont understand (

w/ exchange push mail

), I also work with WI FI open wep , I dont sync with outlook(PC) my pop3 mail account , perhaps I made a wrong setting ... I try to explain , When open messaging (inbox folder ) I see mails from yesterday ie , but if I send /receive mail the new ones that comes from my provider make that the old ones goes from screen and only new ones are in the inbox screen . The old ones goes to messaging folder in CF card and I cant see anymore . Yesterday I test Flex mail( 2007) with good perfomance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] smegol:
Can I change pagepool size on nb0 files with modpp or is it only possible with nbf files.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mr Joshua:
looks like it can be done to me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gethsemani:
Needing your kind advice

First at all I want to say thanks to all you for keep the hx4700 alive!

I have mine with wm2003se and I was reluctant to perform the wm6.1 because I see a lot of "versions" but can't decide which is the most stable, complete and reliable version.

Basically I need a version which allow me to connect any wifi connection available out there, with full and normal PIExplorer also windows media (ths is because I am a regular radio listener for wm streams and need the PIE for youtube video thru tcmp and flasbundle.

Also, I handle a lot of pdf's documents so acrobat or foxit is a must!

Ebooks reading thru Mobipocket.

I really will appreciate your kind comments.

Thanks in advance,

Pablo ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello

Im use Agasys V1710 rom with very good perfomance

you dont need anymore mediaplayer , TCPMP or Core Player was the best for video streaming , you tube , jpg , mp3 aac etc etc etc all files audio and video , you dont want see anymore WMplayer .

For e books , Adobe Reader LS 2.5 , the best , no troubles , reflow

PIE dont works under WM6.1 any version or works very bad ( I dont know if other rom support PIE I dont see this) , there some patches but dont work , you must use NETFRONT 3.5 , beautifull browser , fast and complete (not for flash , here TCPMP OR COREPLAYER with youtube interface) or opera mini 4.1 in Java enviroment (very simple but no flash too ).PIE works calling TCPMP or Coreplayer for flash , if you have this you dont need it .....its simple , you call directly stream video in TCPMP with exellent quality I see TV channels , you tube , listen radios etc with it .If you want good radios see also Resco Pocket radio , very good soft..

WI FI and Bt no troubles at all with WM6.1 all works well , BT activesync ,BT a2xx , BT gps , bt net ad hoc .....WI FI , wep , WI FI , WEP , ad hoc net etc etc OK

I dont have any big trouble with this ROM its very very stable and fast .

If you want to install Java for Opera mini ( I dont like opera 9.5) dont forget to install in windows, sms.dll and phone dll ( you find in this forum) before install Esmertec Java emulator if not Java emulator not runs .

No other issue that I can remember , 6.1 its other word , no more filesys time ,no more freezes , no more battery troubles when you change batt , its fast fast , belive me change rom you and yours 4700 will be happy .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gethsemani:
Thanks for your comments!!...my big concern regarding PIE is which web browser could be set as default browser...Newsbreak is my favorite rss reader and when you want to read an entire new, it redirects you to PIE to be able to see the whole article. For regular browsing I always use Netfront, but that's one of my concerns.

Yes, resco radio is a must too...Is it working ok whit this rom version?

Thanks again for your comments.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Pablo , give me the URL that you want , i check in my browser if its works , or how may work with other soft , pocket radio works fine under 6.1 ,dont worry about PIE , most of special players that are needed for special pourposes are "called " by PIE but you can make work directly in the soft that are called ie if I want to see TV channel I have a litle file thats make TCPMP opens directly or if I want to see youtube COREPLAYER have an interface incorporated dont need PIE , when I installed the new rom in my 4700 for the first time I installed PIE for 6.1 , works well a few days , then I want to clean my machine and made a hard reset , never works again , and as I see nobody have PIE working fine under 6.1.

I try to help you as I can but dont think that 6.1 have more troubles than 2003 I said its other word.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gethsemani:
Oh, don't worry my friend...thanks for so usefull info!

Just in case, if you want to give it a try, this is the newsreader about I am talking about:

http://www.iliumsoft.com/site/nw/newsbreak.php

If it is no major bother for you, and if you try it, please let me know what happens when you click on any news....

Thanks again buddy!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Perhaps this works for you ...........www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=51672&keyword=newsbreak
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
mobipocket works well. i am using it to read asimov at the moment.

foxit works fine as well i am also using it . i have sanjays v3_lite running on my 4700.....

i am using opera as a browser. not sure which version.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
works fine for me , CNET News ,Wired News , etc when read more on line .....opens Netfront as my default browser and i can read all the page on line WORKS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gethsemani:
Thank You spud42 and Ihasistos for such information!

That was all I need to know before upgrade...thanks again

Maybe I need to flip a coin to decide which rom version should I install :D

Last, do you follow any tutorial or guide regarding the upgrade process? Just to be sure not to get a very expensive paperweight:rolleyes:...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Puzom:
Hi,

What problems are there with PIE in the 6.1 roms? Been playing with it a few days now and PIE is working fine. Have all paths pointing to my SD Card, so no filesys.exe issue :)

Also tested opera 9.5 and mini 4.1 yet PIE is working a lot better and faster. Never tested Netfront, will do that later and see if it works.

Oh installed v1g ROM and sofar working OK. Yet had 2 locks up sofar, but soft reset was al i needed to get it running again. Think it was filesys.exe who made it hang as I installed progs on the device instead of the SD Card.

Cheers.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hi

PIE works for 3 or 4 pages ok then ..connecting.......turns slow , not close , I close by task manager and if you see in the task manger its about 10 mg or more , turns sys slow or unestable . I have dll s patched to cf too , inclusive new dlls (browser 96 .dll etc ) . I patched with new dlls also , football version and others , only one works fine for me for a few days , then when I made a HR and install all never works fine again ,as I see in forums its a know problemm.A new version called PIE for 6.1 are in forums , but i dont know how install , because the original exe fire are in rom , for me refuses to install , if somebody knows please explain me .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Puzom:
Hmm ok not having these issues yet. By PIE for 6.1 you mean this post?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=365721&page=2

In your PIE, when you hold your styles on the page, do you get the Zoom OUT option? It seems that is the 6.1 version. (http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/First-look-at-Windows-Mobile-6.1-article-a_2401.html)

Cheers.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
TUTORIAL FOR UPGRADE http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=246529&highlight=hx+4700

Cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Elis:
hello,

that Windows live to messenger works in WM6.1 for ipaq hx4700?

that version can be used that it works?

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gethsemani:
Thanks a lot!!!