yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] toja56:
Hi Kozhura,

please too lite version with maximum free memory RAM.

thank you
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
Ramsses,

I wonder if it is possible to set pagepool to for ex. 6MB instead of 4 or 8? What about 5MB?

somewhere I read that for hx4700 pagepool set to 4,5MB makes bigger improvement.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

Bigu1975
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
4.5Mb was the 'standard' that the stock HP WM5 ROM had - WM6.x doesn't need such a big pagepool to get good performance as compared with WM5. 4 and 8 are what are typically chosen for 64Mb and 128Mb machines - there is no hard and fast rule though. Go too big and your machine will be prone to lock-ups... You can set it to 6 - it doesn't need to be a power of 2! I wouldn't go above 5Mb for a 64Mb machine, as it will be less stable (don't ask me why, it's just based on experience, verified by others too).

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
Folks

PhamQuang has posted some new ROMs (appear to be mixed hybrids for the imgfs and XIP), but they are not customizable by us. I don't know whether that is because he has used different, incompatible tools or has packed the imgfs partition in a non-standard way to make them hard to modify by others (I hope this is not the case, I'm sure we all recognise his hard work here, even when we do make derivative ROMs from it - preventing this seems to go against the our desire to share knowledge for everyone's benefit :( ).

I think I can make a stripped down 19588.1.14 using PhamQuang and Alkor (@4PDA) current ROMs, but I hesitate to do so as Kozhura is due to post soon (and will probably do it better ;) )

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hi Andy,

We are all waiting for Kozhura's new rom, but you should continue your efforts as well. If you come up with something that works well, please don't hesitate to share it. It's good for all to do so.:)

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
Many thanks...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] albertorrent:
yes,

I wante two things that never worked with 4700 and WM6 (if I'm wrong let me know wich ROM) :

- installing certificat

- wifi with WPA connection

than in advance if you are able to do it for futur rom !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ankhazam:
Well certificates work, the personal ones, not the root ones though :)

And as of WPA... I suggest the Odyssey Access Client :) WPA-TKIP works nice :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ccsukso:
Having issue with Thai language installation

Hi, I've gotten an issue about Thai language installation.

I 've tried almost every Thai enabling softwares in the market which are designed for WM6 and some for WM5. They don't work at all. My HX4700 shows that *.ttf and *.dll files cannot be copied to the device. It doesn't work neither I install it in sd card. I have tried some of WM5 Thai enabling software for WM5 too. They don't work neither. My 4700 still have the same problem.

I don't know how to solve this problem. I've tried all roms provided.

Any advice?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vivi:
Take a look at this.

http://www.smart-mobile.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123777

vivi
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] albertorrent:
In fact I want to try to use my HX4700 as a phone with wifi connection connected to my internet provider.

To do that I need to install root certificats and connect to WPA WIFI connexion. (to use a software such "SJPHONE")

without the root cert I cannot do anything.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sleeps:
Have you tried this little tool?

http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/p12imprt.html
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
hi guys. i have installed sanjays v3_lite and its working for me. in 2003se i had moved the "my documents" to the CF card. how do i do this in WM6.1 ??? the registry entries are different.... i thought i had it once but it only worked for 1 attempt. next turn on it was back to main memory......does any one know the reg key? i tried to google for it but after 30 minutes of reading and searching i gave up.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
Please look at this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2251594&postcount=800

Regards.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
i had read that already but i didnt want to rename my CF card to "my documents" its a 4 gig HDD.... i just checked the registry and saw that the CF card is actually refered to as PCMCIA in the registry, the entry above the SD Card entry...i suppose if this is the only answer i might have to do it but how many files and folders can you have under "my documents" ? is there a limit. i dont want to use the SD card slot as it has all my music on it. i have 2 2Gig SD cards for thr music and everything else is on the CF drive....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
HP iPAQ 4700 WM6.1 (kozhura Edition) The Return

It seems that Kozhura has already prepared a new version of Winodws Mobil 6.1.

The first images are of the ROM in Russian.

According to my understanding within an hour will be the link with the new version

I hope you realize a version in English.:)

You can see the work of kozhura in http://4pda.ru

A greeting:D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ridolfo:
According to Kozhura's latest post on 4PDA, the English version will follow a bit later, maybe this week-end.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
I have a working CE OS 5.2.19581 (Build 19588.1.0.0) (i.e. with the 581 XIP and a 588 imgfs) based on Alkor's R2 ROM (@4pda.ru - thanks to him!). Kozhura has an earlier imgfs and a later XIP core, so I will try to merge these and upload!

Andy

Edit: PhamQuang's latest 19915.1.2.0 release suffers from the same issue as some of the other releases where there is a incompatibility with the MSFLASH driver such that the replstor filter does not load - so it works, but not nearly as well as it should...

Edit2: Okay, it works - I've uploaded an English CE OS 5.2.19588 (Build 19588.1.0.0) - It has the flashing start menu icons (which I suspect is an issue with Kozhura's too as it seems to be related to the XIP), which are fixed by making the links read-only. ReplStor is okay.

The registry has been cleaned of the last vestiges of the erroneous device Ilium, Rhinocode, today panel and WebIS keys... The extra Dockware files have also been removed. The XIP has been similarly cleaned and Alkor's unnecessary filesystem filter inclusions have been removed. In addition, the most stable wzcsvc.dll is included rather than the newer dodgy one, black theme added, and latest RDP client included.

Here it is:

http://rapidshare.com/files/120135977/ROM_v2.01_B19588_HP4700_B19588.zip.html

Seems to be flipping quick! (The above version is 4.5Mb Pagepool, included is the modpp.exe to change it to the 4Mb for 64Mb, 8Mb for 128Mb machines or whatever size you want!)

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jast82:
Thanks andy,will try your rom immediately.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tgk20:
Alkor Edition

alkor has released a new edition (HP iPAQ 4700 WM6.1 [Alkor Edition])so for so good.:):):)

google translation is

1. HIP - 19581 version.

2. SIS - 19588 version.

3. Potvikal slightly.

4. Clean of debris.

_http://rapidshare.com/files/118858096/Alkor_B_2.rar.html

_http://depositfiles.com/files/5692585

4pda post link

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=70688

no flicking so far

keep it up Alkor good work
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
New Ramsses and Alkor

Andy, Alkor

Links to your new ROMs will be on post 1 in a few minutes. Thank you for sharing these ROMs.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vimesUK:
Andy....

Is the Alkor ROM in post #835 a newer one than the one that you have used, as there does not seem to be a flickering problem...?

Although I'm not sure what...

3. Potvikal slightly.

means...?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] djcristi:
please also link the new kozura's rom
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
It's the same base ROM...

The inclusion of the 'CacheFilt' filter in Alkor's original B2 registry stops the flickering, however, it also radically slows down the performance of the file access (read speed to about 30%) - as verified with SKTools - and loading ilauncher on startup seems notably slower on my device. I would accept the flickering (and kill it with the setting of read-only on the *.lnk files) and keep the faster access speed.

I am going to play with the associated CacheFilt registry to get the speed back - watch this space!

Andy

Edit: Here's the answer (this may be applied to my latest ROM if you have already downloaded - I will fix this and repost the ROM with this included):

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\CacheFilt]
"EnableFileCacheWriteBack"=dword:00000000
"EnableFileCache"=dword:00000000
"LockIOBuffers"=dword:00000001
"dll"="CacheFilt.dll"
"Order"=dword:00000002
"FileCacheWriteBackTimeout"=dword:00001388
"FileCacheWriteBackPriority256"=dword:000000FF

The trick is to load the filter but only have it use the cache filter to control handle access, sharing, and byte-range locking for a volume ONLY. The Read access is restored to an acceptable level.

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vimesUK:
Thanks for your very detailed explanation Andy, even though my eyes have well and truly glazed over with total wonder at your expertise :)

I think that I will wait a little for your uploaded 'fixed' ROM - will I need to use that tool to reduce the PP to 4mb, as previous....?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
Here's the revised version:

http://rapidshare.com/files/120242943/ROM_v2.01_B19588_HP4700_B19588.zip.html

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
Hi,

I have two comments to two last ROMs:

1. Ramsses ROM: it is pretty fast but I already found two issues:

- programs icons are blinking (after putting in CF and SD cards)

- using RealVGA 128DPI I can't see contacts

2. For the Arkor edition

- only issue with contacts

About contacts - I can see list of nemes but after taping on name there is white page :(

Regards,

Bigu1975
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vimesUK:
@bigu1975 - does that include Andy's latest ROM as listed in post # 841........?

(for point 1 that you make)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
I will check and let you know :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vimesUK:
Thanks Andy for your updated ROM - I have just tried it and found with the same applications loaded I have 36.54mb free at the start as against around 32mb free from your last ROM.

No flashing and very responsive is my first impression :)

Will try it out further.

Excellent work from all of those involved in the creation and adapting of these ROM's.

EDIT: Just to be clear I'm using the ROM from post #841
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
Anyone using this? Wifi working? what about contacts? I am really keen to take the plunge as I'm still on 6 ver 4 from Kozhura? Any advise?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
Hi,

I tried three posted here newest ROMs:I have two comments to two last ROMs.

First of all I would like to thank you for the hard work.

First very good impression is the memory size - after reset I have ~36MB of free RAM !!!

1. Ramsses (Andy's ROM):

- From Post #833

it is pretty fast but I already found two issues:

- programs icons are blinking (after putting in CF and SD cards)

- using RealVGA 128DPI I can't see contacts

2. Ramsses (Andy's ROM):

From Post: #841

it is pretty fast but I already found 1 issue

- using RealVGA 128DPI I can't see contacts

Testing this ROM I have feeling that the file read/write is faster...

3. For the Arkor edition #835

- only issue with contacts

About contacts - I can see list of names but after taping on name there is white page.

I have no chance to test them in details. If I will find something more I will post it.

Now I am using ROM from Andy from post #841.

Regards,

Bigu1975
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tgk20:
iam using Alkor edition and no issues with contact at all names and details are fine.

wifi is working fine too
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
Do you use RealVga (128 DPI)?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Andy, I've changed post #1 to this link.

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lyger:
Excellent work from everyone, things are looking up for our devices.... Have you seen this?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...84-f862-4e02-a2b0-0003b4565f34&displaylang=en

I've not been able to make it work so far....

It seems to be only for phone devices...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
Sanjay: Thanks!

Regarding the 128DPI issue, it may require the 128 DPI resource DLL. I don't use RealVGA, but I will have a look around

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
Andy,

I would be very grateful if you find solution. This ROM is very fast, very stable and gives the highest size of free RAM. The only problem which I have is the issue with contacts.

Problem doesn't appear when the RealVGA hack is disabled and starts to appear when I use both real VGA DPI: 128 and 96.

Before I used Sanjay's ROM and there was no problem with contacts.

BTW on this ROM there is no problem with Windows Media Player skin on RealVGA.

Many thanks in advance.

Regards,

Bigu1975
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Deltang:
How to flash?

Hi all,

I am new to HX4700 and need to find instructions on how to flash its ROM. Been looking at the first 10-20 and the last few pages of this thread with no luck. Could someone please direct me to the right place.

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
I am not an expert, but will try to help you.

I use Chris bootloader file to flash my hx4700. So we have...

1. Download bootloader from:

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/bootloader.zip

Then follow the instruction from the same page: http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/

Step 1: Make a new folder in the root folder of your harddisk drive. make sure it has no spaces.

e.g. C:\BootLoader\

don't use something like C:\Boot Loader\ as it contains spaces.

* NOTE: Having spaces in the folder containing the rom file will cause an error to show because it can't send the file to the device.*

Step 2: Download the WM6 rom and bootloader into the folder you just created in step one.

BootLoader: BootLoader.exe.

* NOTE: Don't download them into another folder that has spaces, put them in the folder from step one.*

Step 3: Put your hx4700 in bootloader mode by pressing ITASK+CONTACTS+RESET, And put it in the sync cradle.

* NOTE: It's best to charge your iPAQ or have power connected before you perform the rom upgrade.*

Step 4: Open the BootLoader.exe from the folder, and select the ROM file when it asks you to select a rom file.

It will automatically find and extract the nbf file, remove the header, close activesync, then start uploading it to your device.

* NOTE: You may need to put on a pot of coffee, it takes a while. It will show an error after uploading it, and stay in bootloader mode, but it will still work once you apply step 5.*

Step 5: Lastly, perform a clean reset by pressing CONTACTS + INBOX + RESET. When asked to confirm the clean reset press CALENDER.

* NOTE: You may need to soft reset before or after doing this. This step is required by all bootloaders. (Solnyshok?s mod etc.) Don't skip it or it will not boot up.*

Note: If using Windows Vista, You will need to install special drivers. A dialog box will prompt you to install them automatica

Regards,

Bigu1975
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cyberdude_pete:
Can't get Ramses ROM. Rapidshare keeps kicking me out saying I don't have Java enabled. I do, and I've tried two browsers. Anyone have an alternate link?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
I'm uploading a mirror to Uploaded.to.

Andy

Edit:

http://uploaded.to/?id=2yhc2n
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mr Joshua:
I'm actually posting this using my Hx4700 w/ the rom from andy's #841 post and a Think outside folding Blue tooth keyboard.. using PIE. programs I have installed on CF consist of "Handy sniffer 2.0" "VM net browser 1.3" "wififofum 2.2.12" "TCMP 0.72rc1" "TCMP FLV Plugin" "Adobe Acrobat reader 2.0" PHM Reg Editor 0.70"

i'll be testing the latest release of minimo, Iris, Net front, realvga, etc.. no issues so far w/ anything.

Storage:

Total: 82.59

In Use: 4.64

Free: 77.95

Program:

Total: 58.31

In Use: 38.11

Free: 20.20

Props to Andy, Kozhura and everyone else who keeps cooking new roms. keep up the awesome work guys..

~J
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cyberdude_pete:
Sweet. Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Deltang:
Thanks bigu1975

I will try it in the next week or so and am sure all will be OK.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tgk20:
sorry i don't use RealVga but I am sure you are in the right place for an answer:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
Try this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=327830

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ridolfo:
I think the point was that bigu1975 does use Real VGA, and has problems with the Contacts program. Then tgk20 stated that he doesn't have any problems, so bigu1975 wanted to know if he's using Real VGA.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] RiPLeY78:
Ramsses i found a problem with this rom. Before i was using your previous release, pp 8mb. I had no problem with mi WEP encripted wifi and that release.

With this release, the wifi adapter of the hx4700 takes an ip, but it doesn't seem to get the ip of my router as the DNS. I can access any ip, but no directions. It never happened to me with any wm 6 or 6.1 rom (though i remember something similar with the official hp wm2003 rom). It's solved just putting the DNS yourself, but somehow annoying as you have to change it if you connect to other networks.

With the previous release i never had that problem.

Maybe is I'm doing something wrong?

PD: Thanks for all of your (and many others) work. Is keeping this good old device in use after 3 years ... (if it was for hp ...)

PD2: With this release i've found that there's little use for setting the pp to 8 instead of 4.5. It seems to be working fine with 4.5 and putting it to 8 gives little (or nothing) of an improvement (if anything, 6 is ok).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
It was more to poitn him at the latest version and the 128dpi package.

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
RiPLeY78,

Yesterday I was testing my WiFi (WPA-PSK) - it worked brilliant. I don't have any problems with DNS assignment.

I have also noticed improvement - I get connected just after I set the connection details. On different (older) ROMs I needed to turn off and then turn WiFi on to get it worked (after configuration).

I am using dlink 624T ADSL router.

Regards,

Bigu1975
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
I use WEP with no problems. Try removing the connection (iPaq Wireless App->Turn On wifi->settings (Wireless TAB)->click and hold on your connection and "remove settings"). Also check the "HP iPAQ WiFi Wireless Adapter" (Settings "Network Adapters" TAB) has "Use Server Assigned IP Address" and the Name Servers settings are blank.

8Mb PP is only relevant for 128Mb devices - it makes the response a fraction better.

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
Andy,

I am using exactly those packages and also this RealVGA 1.1 tool from link you provided.

The same software I used on previous ROM and contacts were fine. As a work around solution I will probably install another contacts software :(

thank you.

Regards,

Bigu1975
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] RiPLeY78:
Tried that before (though i just retried to make sure). And i have looked before into all of these settings. I'm accesing google trough 209.85.129.104, though i cannot access it normally.

The curious thing is it's getting an ip and the gateway right, but no DNS at all.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
filesys.exe.... again

Gents,

I know that there were hundred of posts related to filesys.exe problem...

I read a lot of this but I need to confess I still don't know what can be done to avoid filesys.exe problem.

even on the newest great 6.1 ROM, from time to time I get the filesys.exe is consuming the CPU time in 100% :mad: I can only perform the soft reset to kill this compacting process. On different devices which I have with ROM 6.0 and 6.1, this problem is not so noticeable.

My question to you is - what is the reason of this - the hx4700 itself or just there are problems with ROM? Of course my intention is to find the solution at least :)

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

Bigu1975
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
That's good to know as the wzcsvc.dll differs from Alkor's in that it is the older one that Vagus identified as working with WPA-PSK. This must be the one to go for!

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] RiPLeY78:
Did some test. Removed the WEP and left the network opened with no encryption. Still the same problem, so it doesn't seem to be related with encryption.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
It is more likely your router not giving you the info - try power-cycling the router.

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] RiPLeY78:
It was the first thing i did but nope, not related to the router. I have 3 more devices connected to it via wifi (including an s200 with wm6) and they work properly.

I remember I had this same problem with the original wm2003 that came with the device shipped, i had almost forgotten the problem as is long ago since i changed it. Exactly the same problem, the hx4700 won't get a valid DNS server ip configured automatically (not only from my router, ANY wifi connection gives the same error). Then i investigated for more than 6 months with no results, and just ended up configuring manually the DNS, and thinking it was a factory bug, till i changed the rom to a wm5, which solved the problem, that has disappeared till now. Anyway I don't know if someone else suffers from the same error or it's just my HP that doesn't work properly.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] RiPLeY78:
Oh **** pretty simple!

The problem is in the MY ISP settings in connections. It doesn't work as usual. Just created a new network and set it up in "Connections to internet" and private network. Now it works properly ("My ISP" does NOT work). It may have no sense but it worked.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Linus_18:
issues last 6.1 roms alkor-kozhura-ramses

with the latest alkor-kozhura-ramses ROM i had a issue about changing ppc theme (can't change from HP rom one) and an issue about bluetooth automatic recognizing of gps with some apps (route66, tomtom); for this last issue what can be done is manually set port (com5 or com8) instead of automatically manage gps in settings; remember to off external gps if you use different apps with different com ports, I solved this way.