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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Battery drain

A thought on the battery drain problems that people are reporting with the PDAVIET ROMs since I see 3-4 days battery life - unless of course I play music for hours.:)

Remember that WM6 is based on WM5. A long time ago, Menneisyys published a set of tweaks to improve performance of WM5 ROMs. A problem he found was that ActiveSync comes on periodically, finds nothing to sync, but runs anyway and kills the battery. He published a fake server hack that you can apply if you DO NOT need to sync mail with an Exchange server. Since I do not need to do so, I have applied this patch. This prevents ActiveSync from starting periodically and improves battery life. Below are the steps for this hack, repeated from Menneisyys's blog at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=861&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

1. Click the ActiveSync icon on the hx4700 (in Start/Programs).

2. Go to Menu/Add Server Source. Add any random information in each field to create a fake server.

3. Go back to Menu/Schedule, which has just become enabled, and change the two drop-down lists to "Manual". <-- This is the key point!

4. Now, go to Menu/Options and delete the new fake server setting. It will be at the top. All your non-server ActiveSync pairing(s) will be below it. You can leave them alone.

There is a lot of good information that Menneisyys provides in his blog. It's worth reading.

It would be interesting to know if this helps improve the battery drain situation for some.

Regards.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lyger:
ms .net cf3.5

anyone upto intergrating cf3.5 into a rom.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wsuo2006:
Can't flush ...

I can't flush the rom. I have followed the instructions to the letter, but just can't put the rom on my 4700. Do I have to reinstall 2003 first? I have WM5.1 on at the moment.

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] panoz:
Well actually this is the one that doesn't work for me.. i don't know why but the tty-usb app freezes and the best thing it has done so far is display "pas" (and then freeze). That's on winXP SP2, i don't even want to smell vista!! I'll try on different pc's when i get the chance though, just in case..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
Don't know what you mean by flush. As far as I know, there's no need to reinstall 2003. I'm not sure how you got to the point you're at now but, have you seen this thread:

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=243857

That's the original post for the chrismrulz bootloader that is also linked to on the first page of the thread that you're reading now (via flyingarizona?) Anyway, the chrismrulz bootloader instruction set is the main deal. Download it. Follow the instructions on the site. STEP by STEP, and you shouldn't have any problem. Hope that helps.

edit: a few more things I remember from times it didn't work smoothly for me:

1. when you run the bootloader program it stops the activesync process running in memory (wcescomm.exe) But what if you don't have activesync installed on your PC to begin with? I think that it may be important that you have previously installed activesync on your PC because it installs certain updated drivers etc. that may be relevant.

2. do not name the folder "bootloader"

3. if all else fails you might try this advice I found somewhere:

1) Downloaded chrismulz's Bootloader.exe

2) Created C:\IPAQ

3) Put Bootloader.exe and ROM .nbf file there

4) put in bootloader mode

5) Put hx4700 in cradle

6) Ran Bootloader.exe and clicked "Ok" a time or two

At that point, it seemed that mtty became unresponsive. Three separate times of running Bootloader resulted in no data being copied to my iPaq. So I continued with the following:

7) Copied hx.nbf to C:\IPAQ\Bootloader (where mtty11a.exe resided)

8) Ran mtty11a.exe

9) Selected the port \\.\WCEUSBHS001

10) Hit [ENTER]

11) At USB> prompt, typed password BOOTLOADER

12) At HTCSPass.<|Y|HTCEUSB>, typed lnb hx.nbf

mtty FINALLY started doing something. And soon I was finally seeing |x|x|x|x|x|... going across the window.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] baldeagle:
Soft reset issues with DA_G_4mb Rom

Sorry to report, but after a few weeks of testing, I've had to remove the DA_G_4mb rom from my device.

There seems to be soft reset issues which result in the device hanging on the boot screen, although this is recoverable by removing the battery, this method resets the date and time and is a pain in the butt. The problem does not seem to happen all the time, and I've tried to see if different apps are causing the issue, but with no real conclusion.

I've now flashed my device with SK61V02_4 rom, re-installed the exact same apps and all is well.

Sorry I can't be of any more help as to the cause, and wonder if anyone else has the same problem.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
How did you know what to remove or did you just remove the obvious? (It irks me that whilst removing anything with pps or ppt in it gets rid of powerpoint and pxl, etc. is obviously excel, there are going to be other bits left in there that aren't needed and are taking up valuable space that could be used for useful items?

rayone's bat looks like a bit of fun to use though. :)

Is it worth building on the idea with a huge one that enables people to pick and choose what they have or don't? For example, if there was a single bat that removed all the apps, people could delete the bits they didn't want to remove and run that...?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello Graham,

While some of the files in the DUMP folder are obvious, for others I used ResourceHacker (freeware) to confirm their purpose. However although you can remove just the files from the IMGFS, the registry entries will not be cleaned. For these, I decompiled registry files default.hv and user.hv and removed the corresponding entries from there.

Hope this helps.

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Thanks, I'll have to give that a go (found a Resource Hacker, but not sure if there are different ones for different platforms of files?)

Does it create a list of files per application (I'm still keen that we should share the knowledge around :))?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
ResourceHacker is available from http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker. It allows you to see what's inside a dll. I used it to get an indication of the purpose of dlls that I was not sure of. The other tool that helps also is a good hex editor like xvi32 or winhex.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] WODP:
It would be very nice.

What about HP Image Zone and Pictures & Videos... Is it possible to keep just the last one?

You can also remove How do I.

You can put Office (Word and Excel in Programs folder).

Remove Navpoint and disable touchpad (not necessary).

As far as it concerns games... i also like them, especially Solitaire :)

Have you consider implanting SRS WOW application in rom, to increase sound effects?

This would than be a perfect rom =)). I would still maybe made some changes, but we have to think about most people, not individuals.

(Did you think to remove also Messaging, Contacts? We have better alternative. Ok ok that's enough for now :D)

sanjay, if you manage to cook it, i would be happy to test it.

I hope you succed and regards from Slovenia.

WODP
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
I like the idea of a base ROM with most of the original software installed (as Kozhura supplied via his ROM's), but include a bat file that uses can then modify and remove applications on an individual basis. I personally use office and PowerPoint, but would like the compressed version installed. I also use the games on occasion when travelling. I see from the forum that every one has their own flavours of what they want included and not included, so the only way is to provide the tools for each individual to customise themselves.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bundleofjoy:
Compressing modules?

I have been asking myself this question for a long time, maybe someone more knowledgeable can answer it:

why would we want to install compressed modules in the rom?

Compressed programs cannot execute straight from ROM (XIP) and have to be decompressed and loaded into the pagepool (consuming precious RAM ).

Since the internal flash filesystem is useless for installing software into (because of compaction issues), why not make max use of the ROM for storing uncompressed images (saving RAM at execution time).

:rolleyes:

Jan
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vimesUK:
I am glad that you asked that question Jan as I too have wondered the same thing but assumed that it was only me not understanding the situation, as it usually would be..!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
This is concerning news as I was about to bite the bullet and give this version a go...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
I'm not concerned as I have never experienced the same symptoms...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gwolford:
I don't believe that XIP is enabled in the hx4700 WM5/6 ROMs. A decision made by HP when they developed the WM5 version that all of these are at least partially based on.

In devices that don't XIP, decompressing and loading can actually take less time (by a small amount) than loading an uncompressed program from (relatively) slow storage. So compressed executables can save on storage and may actually slightly improve performance.

Additionally, every byte saved from the base ROM would allow additional items to be stored as there is a hard limit on the size of the ROM image.

On another subject, all the Cooks out there, thanks for your efforts!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobgreen:
Anyone know how I can change the page pool directly by UltraEdit?

I need 0MB Page Pool~~
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] baldeagle:
What version you using? As the SK61V02_4 rom has been working flawlessly for the past couple of days. The DA_G version was ran ok but had softreset issues.

ZinFab - Use the SK61V02_4 rom you won't regret it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
The DA_G version. What softreset issues?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
You should be able to. There's a good description of how to do it at Brighthand. http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=230392&highlight=PagePool.

However, the easiest way is to use modpp.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
Off topic. Anyone doing anything with andoid on the 4700? There seems to be quite a buzz about it on some of the other threads with devices not to different than ours. Is this just a pipe dream or would it be possible?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] megalosnikos:
ipaq

After a power cut at a time when the decking rom 6.1 ip ipak 4200, I stopped working. What can I do? Toth to Recharger rom? Played no electricity and battery
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] baldeagle:
The problem I had with that rom was when I soft reset more often than not the device would freeze at the boot screen/start up screen, the only way to get the device to work again was to remove the battery. This has only happened with the DA_G rom, not quite sure why, my device is setup exactly the same with the rom I'm using now and no problems.

I tried all the listed solutions but nothing worked, even re-flashed the device a couple of times and still the same problem. Switching to a different rom was the only solution for me.

If I'm the only one that's suffered with this rom, I appologize, just thought I'd post what had happend to me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Makedonk:
You are not the only one with that problem. I have experienced the same problem... And I can't sync my notes with my pc either. But everything else works. I'm thinking of switching back to Sanjay's second version which i used before this. But i'll wait a few more days to see if somebody (Da_G?) cooks another rom :-)

/Makedonk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
http://rapidshare.com/files/91884767..._for_QVGA_.zip

that file was corrupt, this one works!

Still not sure which version of 6.1 to go for?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] eze:
Soft reset issue

I'm running the DA_G_4MB rom and I have had the lockup on soft reset happen twice since I have flashed it a week ago. Both times were shortly after I flashed it, and the past 5 days have been without a problem. Although I don't find myself soft resetting much either. Perhaps this is a software conflict?

On other problem I had shortly after flashing was when my PDA would not respond to the buttons after an auto-shutoff. This would require a soft reset to correct. Again, this problem has been non-existent in the past few days.

Aside from those, I have had no other issues and I'll continue to run the DA_G rom until I see an update to it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wsuo2006:
it works !!!

Thanks for the help. I have successfully flashed the SK61V02_4 rom on 4700.

It turned out there were some problems with my PC.

The new rom is really amazing. I was just about to sell my 4700 because it was too slow with WM5, but now with this new rom, it is so fast. How did they make WM5 that slow for the machine?

Anyway, thanks for the great work on the rom!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rayone:
Recompiling the default.hv

Folks.

I need a little advice.

I've decompiled the default.hv, but when I try and recompile I get:

Microsoft (R) RGUComp Version 1.0.000

Registry file processor and hive builder.

Copyright (C) 2004 Microsoft Corporation All Rights Reserved.

built: Nov 19 2004 15:17:13

importing registry file ".\boot.rgu"...

InitRegistry FAILED in file ".\boot.rgu" within a few lines of line 1.

BuildBootHive: (RGUComp) !ERROR failed importing ".\boot.rgu"

wmain: (RGUComp) !ERROR failed building BOOT hive

I've tried:

1.- Saving as Unicode

Now I haven't made any chances to the file I just decompile, then compile... here are the commands I use:

SET _FLATRELEASEDIR=.

rgucomp.exe -o default.hv -nologo > default.reg

This works fine.... then....

rename default.reg boot.rgu

set _FLATRELEASEDIR=.

rgucomp.exe -b

And it doesn't work.

Any advice appreciated.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ridolfo:
Did you put "REGEDIT4" (without the quotes) in the very first line of the rgu file?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] heklei:
Did you soft reset with a (simple) password enabled, because I found that in both ROM versions, DA_G 4 and SK 61V02_4 during the reset the PDA hangs and I had to do a hard reset with data clearance. So i got back to the latest Kozhura WM 6.4.

The second problem was that I could not synchronise the PDA over bluetooth with Windows Vista.

greetings, HNK
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andrzejbobyk:
WM6.1_Lite

It would be great to have a link... Please, share!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rayone:
Yes, tried with and without.

Do you think it's a problem of extraction from the ROM image? It loads fine in Reg Workshop.

UPDATE:

I tried with Da_G's original image and it works.... so it's a problem with my image....

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello andrzejbobyk,

I decided to make a few more changes to my personal rom. As I mentioned, it is a

lite

version with some apps removed and others kept. However it will NOT be stripped bare. I should be ready to share it in a few days after I test it to make sure it works well enough.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] albertorrent:
thanks thanks thanks again !

Sanjay,

Since I have seen you can speak french, will you make a rom with an "azerty" keyboard and the french vocabulaire for the word completion one day ?

(we are some that could be very interested ;-) )
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Huck33:
thanks too :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] irfl:
Device ID keeps changing...

I am using Sanjay's 8mb pagepool version (see post #151) and have found that the Device ID name (Start/Settings/About/Device ID/device name) keeps changing after a while, no matter what I do to reset it. It always keeps getting back to WINDOWSMOBILExx where xx is a changing number like 23 or 47 or something. The name I gave it is still somewhere in the registry, but only under HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Windows CE Services/DeviceFriendlyName and no longer under HKM/Ident/Name. I wonder if that is causing some of the problems people have with synchronisation. I have some of those too under Vista Home Premium, but if using the same USB port on my PC and waiting enough, I usually can sync, even with the random name (Vista PC still sees it with the original name I gave it)...

Anybody else observed this autorename "feature"; is it particular to this ROM; is it particular to all 6.1 versions; etc... ???

Otherwise this ROM runs very well, thanks Sanjay and all the others!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello albertorrent,

I think you are referring to my communication in French with my dear Canadian colleague Cjean (who has such sadly misguided hockey loyalties), but unfortunately I can only just get by in the language. Sometimes I even have trouble in English.

By Word completion, I assume you mean the autocorrect feature? If so, that's dead simple...replacing the autocorrect.0409.txt file in the dump folder should take care of that.

Replacing a keyboard may also be simple enough as explained by algasystems in an earlier post. Earlier, I replaced the keyboard for uolos with a Russian version from Kozhura's Russian rom that he sent me, but I have no way to test it to see if it worked. You may want to look up the algasystems post and try it yourself. I would also recommend the Resco Keyboard which I believe has a French option.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Irfl,

A while ago, I briefly downgraded to Vista but fortunately was able to recover from the disaster and am back to XP. I never tried to sync WM6.1 with Vista, but as I recall, did not have a problem syncing WM5. With Activesync, I have seen instances when my device name is reset but it did that for WM2003, WM5, WM6, and WM6.1. It seems to happen after I hard reset the 4700, rename it and then try to sync. Activesync with XP thinks it's a different device with the same name and changes it. Vista may be doing something similar.

Hope this helps.

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] albertorrent:
Thanks Sanjay,

I'll see wath I can do.

I have had an issue with the first rom of this topic : "PDAV61KBD"

after few weeks of use, I noticed that when I use some soft and ask for something a bit complicated, the soft close itself. I have had that issue with :

FoxitReader : (PDF reader) when I zoom on a picture

karpocket : (".kar" player) it never ends a song it closes before( with good registration)

WormsWorldParty : some times, it close itself when playing

Wifi (WEP): When it connects, the wifi connection close down few second later

except that, I had a probleme trying to connect to a WPA web (freephonie), it never asks me for the connexion information so I cannot use my username and password so I cannot connect.

Does any one have a tip for my issues ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Linus_18:
Nice Ideas

I wonder nobody thought this.

If I move Office .EXE Files (PPT.EXE, PXL.EXE PWORD.EXE) to SD-CARD and remove it from ROM I suppose one can have some more good space free.

I don't move DLL cause I think those will always be seached inside \Windows folder.

Same thing can be done for MobileCalculator.exe, HPImgView.exe, How Do I.exe and corresponding help Files.

Just Testing if this nice idea Works.....

(at this time 34mb ram free and 64mb free for storage with BT/WIFI apps removed from \Windows\Startup, Quick Menu application and the following Today Plugin: Tasks,Calendar,Ilauncher,Resco Explorer).

Wisbar -> SD Card

Ilauncher -> SD Card (except ilauncher.ini)

If you use Jeode Java VM can also compress evmcore.dll with UPX

If you use EVB Runtime you can also compress MSCE*.dll files with UPX.

HOPE THIS HELPS !!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bbalazs:
certificate load problem with Da_G fw

Hi there,

first of all a big thank you for all the effort you put in cooking, i guess i'm not the only guy out here who appreciates your work.

I have updated my hx4700 to Da_G firmware (nk.rar) today, and during setup I have encouneterd a problem. I must install two company certificates to enable access to company exchange servers, but the certificate installer responds: "The certificate was not successfully added. Please restart the device and try again". With the former fw I just tapped the cert and it installed OK.

I have tried the following:

- Restart the device and try again :)

- Copy the certs to SD card, no success

- Copy to My Documents, no success

- Copy to \windows dir, no success

- start certinstall.exe on its own, no success.

You might be interested in having a look at this problem, thanks,

Balazs
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cook:
filesys.exe eating CPU and battery (DA_G Rom)

Hello,

filesys.exe eating CPU and battery (DA_G Rom)

is there a solution ?

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
Try TMan to close background programs & tasks.

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-tman-v0-9-9.html

And use the fake server trick to mislead ActiveSync.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andrzejbobyk:
I had the same issue with kozhura's 6.0, try NOT to check "Use PocketPC device name for Bluetooth" in Bluetooth Settings/Accessibility and just write down your chosen device name in the text field above the checkbox - hope this helps.

I'm using Vista, BTW.

Regards - Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
SL61V03 and SL61V03_lite

As promised, I'm sharing a lite version of WM6.1 which I use. The ability to completely sync Outlook, including Notes, is vital for me, so I used this is based on the SK61V02_8 rom I shared earlier.

Because I made some minor registry changes to the base rom, I have reposted both FULL and LITE versions of the roms to keep the version numbers aligned. The new roms are ones are: SL61V3 and SL61V3_lite.

SL61V3 is a complete rom and is identical to the earlier V2 except for the minor registry tweaks. SL61V3_lite is the rom I use and from which I've removed apps that I have not used in a while. It saves memory, and some may find it useful if you do not need the removed apps.

I considered suggestions for adding other apps but opted to stay with a clean base. Removing apps only to replace them with others that not everyone may want seemed pointless. Also, IMHO apps that can be separately added are better left out of a rom. They can also be updated as newer releases are issued.

I like the V2 roms as they are. So the minor registry changes in both roms are only here to save a few steps when resetting. They are:

- Error Reporting is disabled by default

- Device turn off time on battery is a more practical 3 minutes

- NavpointService is removed. Doesn't have to be manually deleted anymore.

Removed from SL61V02_lite are the following:

1. Windows Media Player (can't do gapless playback)

2. Internet Explorer (didn't work on my banking site)

3. PowerPoint (never used it)

4. HP Image Viewer (redundant with "Pictures and Videos")

5. Games (ok...I may have to put these back!)

6. WelcomeCenter (I been welcomed already)

7. BTPhoneManager and some phone related registry entries

(I have a phone. I have a PDA. They don't need to talk. Thank you.);)

The lite version is NOT stripped bare. For example, it still has help files for apps that are in the rom (I never know when I will need them.)

Opera over WiFi works fine. Activesync works over bluetooth. Word, Excel and my other apps work fine.

NOTES if you want to try the lite rom:

1. Because WMP is gone, you will need to add your favourite player to play audio.

2. Because IE is gone, you will need to add your favourite browser (opera, minimo, etc.) to open files that were associated to IE. You can also open them with Word - but it's ugly.

Links to both roms are below and on post #1. Feel free to try if you wish.:)

SL61V3: http://rapidshare.com/files/102131440/SL61V3.zip

SL61V3_lite: http://rapidshare.com/files/102132189/SL61V3_lite.zip

Regards,

Sanjay