yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bovirus:
Does one of the latest ROM version has the option to read SDHC card?

Which one?

And about latest Alkoor RC ROm where can I download it (I don't understand russian).

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
SDHC? Are you sure? I have known that is a hardware limitation...???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
unlike the dell 51v i dont think the hardware in the 4700 works with the SDHC drivers. there are several posts about this , so i think unless there is a MAJOR breakthrough we may NEVER see SDHC for our beloved 4700.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bovirus:
Typically teh contacts for SD and SDHC are teh same.

In SHDC change the way to request info and tehanswer by SDHc cards.

But the hardware it's tehs ame.

Infact as example, the HTC Universal doesn't read natively teh SDHC card, but SDHC utilks you can change teh SD from SD/SDHC Type I/ SDHC Type II.

With SDHC type I & Tyope II you can use SDHC up to 32GB.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
I used to think the SDHC for the 4700 was impossible until I heard what Dmitry Grinberg did for the Palm...

http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2008/09/19/dmitry-grinberg-releases-sdhc-driver-for-palm-os/
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
Hi,

There's NO way the hx4700 will read/write SDHC ... Although the pin-layout is the same, SDHC uses a completely different adressing method. This has been discussed about 325583196416 times before, and up to now nobody ever got an SDHC working.

:D

Dirk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
I hear you, and yes I know it's been talked about over and over. (vulcantourist included :mad: ughh) it's just that when i saw what Dmitry did with the Palm, when many were saying it was impossible it gave me hope anew, albeit it was on a totally different device.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
yeah right, i see you also ran into that vulcan :) ... SDHC has all to do with a firmware upgrade that is not available for hx4700. Most of the people think it can be done by OS upgrade, but that's a complete other story.

:D

Dirk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
SDHC for what?

you can buy 4GB SD card, and huuuuge CF cards (I have 16GB CF and 4GB SD using in the same time so that 20GB capacity is enough for me as my music and movie pocket entertainment...)

B.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bardenas:
What about this rom? Is the vivi´s one with some changes made by topas.

WM 6.1 20764.1.1.1 Vivi version + WM6 CHT IME by topas
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
Hi,

CHT means 'chinese' .. if that's your language, go ahead. If not, search for WWE.

:D

Dirk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
PIE Browser problems with Sanjays 6.1 ROM??

I have been using Sanjays ROm v3 (full) for sometime and it works generally quite well, though a bit slow at times. I just recently had the RAM upgraded to 128K and now it seems even slower if that is possible.

Are there any tweaks I should be making to benefit from the extra RAM memory?

Also, I'm not finding the Internet Browser (PIE) built in to this ROM is very good. It seems to work Ok to surf to Google & display results; but many sites I try and surf to just show the following behaviour: status says "Connecting..." for ages and doesn't do anything else. When I click stop I get the status download bar at 0kb just before the page navigation terminates. Also, after this has happened, the whole system slows down to a crawl until I do a soft reset.

Anybody else have PIE problems in Sanjays v6.1 ROM? Is there a better browser I can install that would do the job better? I was wondering about Opera Mobile v9.52beta (with Gears plugin) - anybody else got experience with this?

Thanks

NigelS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hx4700_Enthusiast:
"....Anybody else have PIE problems in Sanjays v6.1 ROM?"

I don't recall trying that ROM. I do know that there was an issue with PIE in earlier ROM's (I'm not sure if it was a problem in both WM6 and WM6.1)

There was a patch that fixed it.... "img-54919-IE_bug_fix.rar" which contained.... "Football_Axim_WM6_ROM_s_IE_bug_fix.cab".

Sanjay's post #449 on page 45 mentions a CAB for PIE 6.1.

I believe that was intended for users of the "Lite" ROM (NO PIE).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=371079&page=45

Hope this helps.

Note: I'm running PhamQuang's Build 20764.1.4.3 PV.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Sadly, I have been officially HX4700 less for a while now with my batteries completely gone and on button failed. But I follow this forum with interest in what people are doing with the 4700.

NigelS, I was never happy with the PIE in my full V3 ROM. It never worked for example on my banking site. This was one reason why I created the lite version. My preferred browser was definitely Opera. It worked well on all sites and was fairly responsive.

You may also want to try PhamQuang's latest ROM to see if it has a better PIE.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jjohnson1701:
Hey DP,

I was interested in upgrading my iPaq 4700 to 6.1, but I'm wondering if any of the roms will mean that I lose the HP provided apps, and if I will get the sliding panels interface as well.

Thanks,

James
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
Hey thanks Sanjay & hx4700_Enthusiast

I think I wil probably reflash with the Sanjay lite ROM and then put Opera Mobile on instead.

@Sanjay

Which is the latest PhamQuang ROM? I lose track of all the discussion on the various variants around!

@hx4700_Enthusiast

Is PhamQuang's Build 20764.1.4.3 PV the latest? Do you have a link?

Thanks

NigelS

Edited:

@hx4700_Enthusiast

Dont worry to reply - I (re)found your post from late-Jan09 with the link
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
Unfortuately, the PhamQuang doesnt work for me - wi-fi won't connect.

NigelS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tomaaa:
hx4700

hello there.

i'm new in flashing PDAs, and i have a question. When i started bootloader, and followed instructions to flash my PDA from WM2003 to WM 6.0, bootloader wrote CLIENTCLIENTCLIENTCLIENT and stoped. Is this normal? Or there should be a progres bar, or somekind of notice that flashing was successful?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lyger:
PIE Browser problems with Sanjays 6.1 ROM??

With 128mb RAM I would recommend you increase the pagepool on the ROM you choose, I would go with a 16MB pagepool or 0pp (Device will handel the pagepool). This will increase the performance of the device during compaction....you won't notice it..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
Seems you forgot to put your device in bootloader-modus. Hence the BootLoader.exe can't connect to his 'client'....

Try again :)

:D

Dirk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
I am using the latest PhamQuang - PDAViet rom, and working fine! Also the WIFI with WPA2 ! ;)

B.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hx4700_Enthusiast:
Wi-Fi Fix - WPA

I'm assuming that you were trying to connect to WI-FI running WPA.

You must install the WPA "fix" to get it working when using the PhamQuanq ROM. I believe that holds true for about all the cooked ROM's.

See page 167.... post 1669.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=371079&page=167

Best Regards,
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
Hi lyger

How do I go about changing the pagepool? Can it be changed retrospectively? As I have just finished reinstalling all my apps after re-flashing with the Sanjay Lite v3 ROM.

Thanks

NigelS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
Hi,

SkTools lite can do that for you

:D

Dirk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
I have installed skTools (latest) in demo mode, but I cant see any option referring to changing "pagepool" - is it called something different?

I've also got a tool called PagePool_Changer.exe, but this appears to only be able to modify ROMS in the form *.nba whatever that is? All the ROM images I have downloaded are either *.nbf or *.nf0. Can anyone help?

Thanks

NigelS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Monia:
Thanks algasystems

Thanks algasystems. Hey sanjay I still have the Windows Mobile Lawn boot screen though... It looks the same as the pdaviet rom I think... I'm not gonna reflash back to check but i'm pretty sure.

I guess it's a good thing you started this thread... the vulcan was probably going to loose it any day now.

I'm using the 4700 rom editor for mods, what are you using.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
try this post in this thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2147932&postcount=548

for more instructions search on "modpp"
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
Hi,

I've a problem with my ipaq hx4700. After upgrading to a modified version the ipaq doesn't start any more. Neither soft- nor hardware reset is helping.

Only when I plug in the power, the screen turns on and displays the boot screen with windows mobile 6.1.

Than nothing happens :-(

Any idea or is my ipaq dead?

Cheers, Dedi
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nrmsmith:
Separate Install of WMP 10 Mobile?

Does anyone have an installable CAB for Windows Media Player v10 ??

I have stuck a copy of Sanjay's v3 lite ROM on my hx4700 (which doesn't contain WMP 10 mobile in the image) and stupidly didn't realise until trying to install Slingbox Mobile on it, that this software requires the presence of windows media player codecs and other support dlls (so, incidently does PocketMusic player which relies on the presence of WMP in order to play MP3 files!).

If I can't reinstall WMP 10 mobile (which doesnt seem to be available on the web) then I will have to go back to Sanjays full ROM.

TIA

NigelS
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
no way dude. try TCPMP first or coreplayer which i use on sanjay's v3lite. there is a codec pack for TCPMP on this thread somewhere or on mobilitysite . . .. . or if you cant find it i can post a link to rapidshare.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
Hello,

Press contacts/messaging & soft reset. You should get option to clear data by pressing calender, do so, after about 10 secs soft reset.

Repeat last action if you wish or it fails. Then soft reset again.

All should be done and working now. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
:-( Nothing happen. It's dead until I plugin power. Then and after pressing calendar+itast and soft reset the Boot Screnn appears - but nothing more.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
Take off the battery, wait 15 minutes en try again.

If nothing happends then flash it again.

Greetings, Andre.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
I forgot to tell that. I've tried this already. And the boot loader modus is not available too :-(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
This might help. Don't use the HP bootloader.

Use the Chrismrul bootloader. Copy the bootloader & the Rom file (*.nfo or *.nbf) to the root drive (That will be the C: drive).

I recall that 2003 versions are calender/iTask & soft reset pressed at same time, whereas WM5 &WM6 will be Contacts/iTask & soft reset.

Once in bootload mode there is no backlight or charge indication, you can barely see the HP logo in the centre of screen.

The rest of the details & instructions come with the chrismrul download/web site http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=243857

Beware that at the end it's a bit wishy washy..... After all the *'s or #'s and you see 'Done'.

Remove ipaq, press contacts/messaging & soft reset.

You should get option to clear data by pressing calender, do so, after about 10 secs (should be time enough as it never clears ) soft rest.

Repeat last action if you wish or it fails. Then soft reset again. Then maybe once again for luck.

All should be done and working now.

Now pairup with your PC after set up & naming it in Start, Settings, About.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
:-(

I tried everything. My ipaq shows no boot screen, no hp logo after pressing itask+contacts (or calendar) +soft reset.

The only sign of life shows my ipaq when I put him into the cradle. Than there is a Windows Logo with "Windows Mobile 6.1" below and a "2.61" in the lower right corner. That's all. Nothing more happen. When I pull out of the dock the screen wents off.

I assume, that the accu might me dead? Is there a way to put the ipaq into bootloader mode, when he is in the cradle?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
Here you have an Internet address of interest to your problem. We hope this helps.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&sl=vi&tl=en&u=http://www.pdaviet.net/forumdisplay.php 3Ff% 3D125 & prev =% _t

Greetings
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
Hey, for all of ya thinking of upgrading your ram, why not get one of these instead:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=130291301194&Category=55824
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
sorry, but the link doesn't work
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
You can not push the reset button when the Ipaq is in the cradle so you can't put it in the bootloader mode, maybe you have an USB kabel with connector for the Ipaq?

If you have you can try it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
Deleted, double message
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tomcrosley:
hx4700 and google maps

Is there anyway to get the hx4700 w/rom upgrade 6.1 to work with google maps when you don't have a wifi connection.....in other words, will it work off my gps receiver without having a wifi connection?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
Sorry for the mistake.

Put it all here again, the original link PDAVIET.

http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=26286

Greetings
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] coruscate:
Google and off line tiles, general answer is NO.

Google maps tile the data and deliver it by selecting it in two basic ways 1. the center point of the screen using the GPS coordinates supplied by reading the NMEA stream coming from your GPS (CF, bluetooth, serial, or SD) and 2. the zoom level of your view.

Because different zoom levels are actually a different set of tiles, you only get loaded the data for the extent of the screen at the zoom level you are viewing.

You must have a live connection to the map database over the internet (wifi, Bluetooth, serial, DUN) so that it can serve the next tile that you move to as you change location.

The current data loaded is cached, so what is loaded will stay in memory as long as the application is alive. You can search directions and it will load all the tiles you need into the cache, and they will still be available when you disconnect from wifi ---but only the tiles for the zoom level you were at will be loaded.

This is the only workaround if not connected to the internet, otherwise the general answer to your question is no, you can not, not at this time, not without caching.

Generally the application Google maps will work, it will center the view on the coordinate received from the gps and it will display no map data because it can not access the server when the connection to the internet (in your case WIFI) is broken.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE ARE NON Google applications that crawl and harvest data from the Google Maps data. Terracrosser is one of them. It is tricky for the average map download setup, and in Windows 7 it must be run as administrator. I did the Marin Peninsula and it was about 4 gigabytes based on my zoom level. It will also crawl Yahoo maps the same way. You can set for Photo, terrain or map tiles. It will show you where your coordinates are streamed from your gps on the map and center it on the screen, however it is only a picture and is not a navigation software and you will not be snapped to the route.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] coruscate:
hx4700 sideshow

Hi folks,

I am using Sanjay's V3, it's been great.

I've used just about every ROM out there, and flashed back to this one after personal needs not met on the most recent Alkor release.

I have one problem that may be several.

It synchronizes great to Vista or 7 over USB (with the occasional need to reboot and conflicts with Slide to Unlock.).

WMDC on Vista or 7 does not recognize it and does not install the WMDC drivers.

It also does not see the service for Windows Moblile Sideshow (use most recent developer preview)

The hx4705 could be one of the most awesome Sideshow Mobile devices ever, but not if we can't get it to connect.:D

Is there a driver I can load in Vista or a bluetooth drive upgrade I can cook or install onto the hx4700 that will allow it to be paired to the Vista machine and offer up the Sideshow client, besides just the ad hoc or PAN services?

Thanks for anybodys thoughts on this and general bluetooth syncing to Visa or 7.

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] coruscate:
Sideshow and hx4705

Ok, I reinstalled sideshow, and this time it comes up as an option to turn on in my bluetooth services in Windows 7 for my paired hx4700 device.

I am using the little Targus 2.0 EDR bluetooth dongle as it has Widcomm stack version 6.sumthingorother and it is pairing nicely compared to my other Blue Soleil and Difusi dongles.

The sideshow for Windows Mobile on the hx4700 shows the desktop machine as the primary user.

Next step is to do the join Vista workaround to enable the greyed out boxes in SideShow on Windows 7.

Sooooo close......
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
bELIVE OR NOT ITS YOUR BATTERY , I HAVE THE SAME TROUBLE , ONLY HP SCREEN IN CRADLE , nothing to do , no boot mode , no soft reset , no hard reset , until I change my batt , with this other zas , all works , then I change to my original and all ok .I flashed again , not necesary but ...

I suspect from Opera 9,5 Beta 2 , I installed in memory device and I have my first trouble same as you said .First time when I disconect my batt coming up the sys , but in the second time never more until I change batt .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] david1954tw:
about wm6.5 for hx4700....

who have wm6.5 for hx4700 i'd try it. thanks....plase.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Juvenile24:
im having an issue with my hx4700.

the back up battery doesnt charge at all. stays at zero percent. i tried doing a hard reset n soft reset but didnt make a difference.

i currently have alkor rom. if i reinstall rom or upgrade rom will it make a difference for the back up battery?

plus i tried removing battery out, and then when i reinstalled battery i started getting task errors.

is the backup battery important? if i leave da back up battery alone will it cause n e problems.

I'll Appreciate ur help.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
I have had the same problem and after replacing the backup battery for an new one is it working perfect now.

You can buy the backup battery on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.nl/NEW-V6HR-IPAQ-HX...PDAsAccessories_PDAs_JN?hash=item160319472242
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Juvenile24:
if i dont replace battery, n leave it alone, is it OK?

is da back up battery very important?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
No it is not okay, you must replace the backup battery, you cannot use the PDA without it.

When you do, you get a lot of errors.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
I've been using mine for months without any backup battery. Works fine, except if you remove the main battery then you need to reset the date/time. That's all. A soft reset only results in a warning message of low power backup.

btw. I recently went back to the original hp WM2003 ROM just to try it out. I thought it might not work without the backup battery because of the way the pre WM5 ROMS are so entirely different in the way they work, but surprisingly it worked fine for that ROM as well. :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
Maybe there is a difference with the rom, I had the rom from PhamQuang and after replacing the backup battery the errors are gone.

@Juvenille24

Maybe you can flash it again and see what happens then?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Juvenile24:
which rom is the most popular one on this forum?

it may be my rom since last night i removed main battery for overnight, and this morning the backup is working. then when i used it at college. thr backup battery went down to 0% and wasnt charging at all .

once i take it off cradle , the backup just dies after most of the time after few 1 or 2 hrs. is this normal?

i currently have the alkor rom.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
You can download the newest rom 14-01-2009 from Vivi WM 6.1 CE OS 5.2.20764 : Official Style , ported from hTC Diamond ROM 4 MB PP.

http://rapidshare.com/files/189454772/4700_20764.rar

With the main battery in it de backup battery stays on 100%, if not then de backup battery is defect en must be replace.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Juvenile24:
is dat rom in english? is it stable?

and from this site which rom is very common?

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/hpmain.htm
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
All roms in the link works fine but new Vivi have some advantages over these , fatest , reclaim ram over power up , more mem free , working IE , .netframe work 3.5 etc

Try Vivi
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
I agree, I have been using Vivi ROM for a over a month now and it is the best I have had so far.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
The rom is in english and very fast and stable.

Same for me, i think that at the moment the Vivi rom is the best choice.:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Juvenile24:
i saw the backup battery on ebay but i have to wait a month to receive. i could go elsewhere to purchase it for a more expensive price.

but is it a MUST to fix it ASAP? or can i wait. any warnings that i should know off?

BTW, my backup battery doesnt charge. stays at 0 %
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
I don,t now where you live but you can also order it here:

http://www.repairhppda.com/product_...x4700-series&gclid=CLD_-66_mZkCFYFA3god0yubag

You can also search V6HR BATTERY with google for the nearest shop.

If you will flash it without backup battery then do that with a full loaded main battery or better let it connected to ac power.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Juvenile24:
that site charges 10 bucks for shipping to New York, USA.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Juvenile24:
If I switch backup batteries, do i have to reinstall programs or reinstall OS?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
No thats not necessary, you must establish then only the date again.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] BiggDen:
Backup Battery

I thought wm 6.x no longer uses the backup battery.

Wasn't the backup battery only in use for wm 2003 - wm 5.5 so you won't need to reinstall programs after a battery swap?

My backup battery died years ago and my 4700 works perfectly w/ wm2003. Only thing is I need to reinstall third party programs if I swap the main battery or let it drain.

I may update to wm 6.1 because I won't need to re-install programs after a battery swap.

-Den
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] BiggDen:
Vivi or PhamQuang?

Can someone who has experience with both Vivi and PhamQuang ROMS list the main differences?

Does Vivi come with the latest ClearVue PDF reader? I am not a fan of adobe acrobat reader for PDAs.

Is anyone using Vivi ROM with wpa2 wireless?

I am leaning more towards to Vivi's ROM because it seems to have more freespace.

Did anyone try Alkor RC2.2?

Any input would be truly appreciated.

-Den