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[Shift General] cmonex:
i'm travelling tomorrow, when i get the time i will be on MSN, you can PM me for the MSN details, i already have a few people on the contact list but it's ok

but first i need to get some other things tested before getting to the SD
[Shift General] cmonex:
to enable 2) you might have to have a booting snapvue to install the special hardSPL (which of course needs to be developed on a test device) which would enable access to hard reset and flashing without booting WM.

THOUGH, now it turns out there is still a hope that you can reflash it in a non booting state before even installing the hardSPL, but more testing is needed to confirm that. the only thing that's been confirmed so far is that you can't hard reset it with a key combination. but flashing may be possible.
[Shift General] cmonex:
OK there *is* a way to enter bootloader from vista without having a booting WM. and there is a way to access that bootloader. which means you can both flash and hard reset, by issuing commands to the bootloader,

but of course tests are needed :D

this concludes my work for today, tomorrow i'm travelling all day, i might be online on MSN to talk to though.
[Shift General] michael85:
This is great news! :D Is this is a way to speed up the design of a hardspl?
[Shift General] jonburge:
getting notepad and rotating screen

loving the mods so far. I would like to activate notepad and screen rotation. Also, in explorere I would like to scroll down with down arrow instead of jumping to links. Help please.
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
For notepad, install the attached program, which came from here.

I have screen rotation via SPB pocket plus, works perfectly.

Scrolling in explorer? Do you mean Internet Explorer? I don't use it, I have Opera mobile, which also jumps to links with the arrow button.

Oh well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hi.

To see a correct layout for pocket weather (and others) in real vga you ve to choose "default icons" instead of "vga icons" in pocket weather/options/icons....

Dani
[Shift General] rosrog:
task manager services

could anyone tell me how to get into task manager services please? i need to stop the snapvue cervice. thanks
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Install taskmgr.exe, which is attached to this thread.
[Shift General] rosrog:
task manager services

Pantaloonie, thanks a zillion. Got it.
[Shift General] rosrog:
task manager services

I've installed the task manager, but now I'm not sure what to do to find snapvue and stop the service in the manager
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Run task manager, go to the dropdown menu at the top right, and select the services tab. Right click on the Snapvue(SVT0) service and set it to manual, then right click and stop the service. The start menu will then be accessible, although you may not see it. Click where it should be, top left.
[Shift General] rosrog:
task manager services

thanks. i followed your instruction and i have the start menu now. tnx
[Shift General] rpawly:
guys im about to loose it, i cant for the life of me get my background black, I had it before clear storage, dont know what happened where it went how i got it before. On my phone i use the htc theme with a black jpg as the background picuture, on the shift its grey.

cmonex said i needed a imageviewer from wm6 rom to select it then disable transparency but i cnat find that and i cant for the life of me find a all black tsk file.

someone want to help, 2 hours on this is enuf!!!!!!

thx in advance :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
dani , oh wise and smart software guy :) u should really get a custom pweather layout for us at 96dpi :) wink wink :)
[Shift General] AndyGarton:
Thanks everybody involved in getting us this far, my Shift is now at least twice as useful as it was out of the box :)

(Although my taste for the prospect of 800x480 and SD card access is now fully wetted :) )
[Shift General] rpawly:
allright damnit!!!!!!!!! omg lol please oh please attach that tsk file you just posted

while your at you could post the pweather icons :)

thanx
[Shift General] AndyGarton:
Weather icons attached (includes the license file from the author).

I'm new to iLauncher and don't know how to get the tsk file?
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
The snapvue today theme gives a black background, even if you turn off the snapvue today plugin.
[Shift General] rpawly:
pantaloonie omg that is what i had done before, wow thx alot :) 2.5 hours trying to figure it out.

i need a smoke haha
[Shift General] rpawly:
id loveto have just the top half of the snavue today screen with the clock and calendar and then just open space after, anyone know a way to do that?
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
You should look at installing HTC home plugin, it's similar to what you want.
[Shift General] rpawly:
ya had that before it does funky things to the buttons at the bottom and stuffs.

maybe just a calendar thing, i saw one of the roms for the athena and it had a nice clock / calendar on the same row.
[Shift General] sonietje:
SnapVue weather tool

I was wondering if somebody could tell me how to use the weather tool of SnapVue without using the SnapVue today plug-in. I activated the SnapVue plug-in and selected the weather tool. In task manager the process \Windows\SnapVueDLGs.exe WeatherDialog was running. When I deactivated the SnapVue plug-in I tried to start the same process but nothing happens.

So I think with some help from the specialists here it should be possible to use the weather tool without SnapVue.

I tried pocket weather but it takes another 8MB from the scarce storage and doesn't look very nice.

I like my today screen as it is now (see attachment) but I'm only missing some weather info.

FYI: I'm using the 128dpi RealVGA because I think the 92dpi is to difficult to read for me.
[Shift General] rpawly:
dont know about that, but the memory problem will be the first to be fixed, we are working on it right now.
[Shift General] rpawly:
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[Shift General] sonietje:
OK, thanks for the reply. In the meantime I will enjoy my fully WM6 enabled Shift (which is already much more than I ever expected to be possible), while I wait for the memory problem to be solved by you guys. Please let me know if I can be of any help to speed up the process.
[Shift General] rpawly:
hey can you give a link or attach the big icons from ilauncher
[Shift General] AndyGarton:
http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showtopic=5538
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
SPB Weather would fit nicely on your screen, and works in all DPI's.

It's not free, but whilst I could never (publicly) condone software piracy, I will say it's not hard to find a 'working' version ;).

Don't remember how much memory it uses though, but it's sure to be more than you'd like.

Edit - just checked, the installer is 1.8mb.
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Pic of a hideous full screen keyboard attached. And don't you just hate those fingerprints all over the screen...
[Shift General] rpawly:
Pantaloonie..oh knower of all things good for winmo :)

calendar for my today screen, i saw it in the athena thread but i cant find it anywhere.

was it part of a rom possibly?
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
What kind of calendar? One that shows the whole month on the screen, or just the next few days?
[Shift General] rpawly:
what i really want is snapvue chopped off under the clock and calendar.

is it possible to edit the them and remove half of so that other plugins can use the bottom?

i use pocketdigitalclock (almost like snapvues but with seconds)

is it possible to put 2 plugins on the same line? (dont think so)

but yes a calendar that shows the month layout.
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
I don't remember seeing one in the Athena forum, it may be worth dropping a post there to ask.

Only one plugin per line with WinMo, unless you want to learn how to code...
[Shift General] AndyGarton:
Anybody brave enough to delete the sn*.* and snapvue*.* files from the windows folder (after SnapVue has been banished of course)? It's 5mb of storage space which I could rather do with...
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
I'll pass on that one, as I'm keeping the snapvue interface.

It would probably be ok to delete them, but.... don't forget, no hard reset if you kill WinMo.
[Shift General] sonietje:
Office mobile word template missing

Would somebody be so kind to post the standard template of Office mobile Word because I ran the 'Auto Clean' function of SKTools and it deleted all the templates. Each time I start Word Mobile I get an error message 'An error occured. The document could not be opened'. This will avoid that I have to reinstall Office mobile again. Thanks.
[Shift General] rpawly:
i cant seem to find my address book anymore in winmo. someone have a lnk file or a location for the program in winmo?

maybe someone can attach a blank 1 or one they filled up and ill blank it out.

found it
[Shift General] AndyGarton:
Exact same thing just happened to me so I'd appreciate this too.
[Shift General] rpawly:
i have installed jimmys_office2007.cab for the 2nd time now and excel is not wroking. Can somone let me know why.
[Shift General] HDLord:
Having installed RealVGA, I am delighted to have lots of screen real estate, but does anyone know if it is possible to get the whole icons showing for Comm Manager (the icons do not get scaled down, so get cut off in the smaller area), or for the weather function in SnapVUE to show completely instead of being cut off at the bottom (so I cannot see the temperatures)?
[Shift General] killer_t:
Any news for Windows Mobile Player???
[Shift General] sonietje:
This is what happened to me when I first installed the office2007.cab I found elsewhere on this forum. After resetting WM and following the tutorial of Tito all the office applications were working perfectly. But this was before I used the SKTools 'Auto Clean' program that deleted the default Word template (see previous post)
[Shift General] rpawly:
what would you play with it hehe
[Shift General] rpawly:
we really need one of the experienced wm guys to analize mxip_initd.vol ....... this file is 16mb large.

and provision.zip is 2.8mb

getting rid of those 2 files would be very nice
[Shift General] rosrog:
calendar

did anyone have any problem with calendar after removing snapvue? my calendar has become unusable since and asking for new data base with error message. Any ideas please?
[Shift General] rpawly:
which snapvue, and what do you mean remove? were not using it but i dont htink that anyone has actually deleted all instances of it.
[Shift General] rosrog:
calendar

no , I didnt delete snapvue. Only changed to stoped the service
[Shift General] cmonex:
so anyone with bricked WM yet?

i've yet to find someone who has time on MSN to try the new hard reset idea with me :P
[Shift General] rpawly:
going on my trip in the morning, no hard reset for me right now hehe, id rather stay home and work on the shift hehe
[Shift General] cmonex:
yes possibly!
[Shift General] rpawly:
Ok only 6.6 megs of storage space free:

RealVGA 96dpi

Digital Clock

Resco Explorer

Resco Registry PlugIN

USB Tool

Office 2007 (only excel and word)

Outlook 1 IMAP

Contacts (vol file is 700k)

Pocketweather

Ilauncher (VGA Icons)

IExplorer 6.1

PIE Plus

Quickmenu

CERDisplay

Thats it, Its functional for my trip, unless i get a pdf lol that install cab is like 8 megs though, massive bloatware.

Been using USB Tool exclusively for 2 days, its great can RAdmin into my vista side and copy files to winmo and run CerDisplay to remote into the winmo side. Everything from my desktop.

We really need our experienced users to have a look at a couple files in the windows dir, from what i understand they do not need to be as big as they are 18Megs storage space total for 2 files!!

1. mxip_initdb.vol 16Mb (i read something about replacing it and it goes down to 1 meg or something it was over my head)

2. provision.zip 2.8Mb (As far as im aware its the auto install of the new sim chip, but we can do it manually no?)
[Shift General] cmonex:
no worries, have fun :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
cmonex whats the registry location and value to make iexplorer report itself as a desktop browser?
[Shift General] Vs1979:
rpawly,

Something like this - found it on the herald forum from hypen....

Disguise your version of Pocket Internet Explorer Internet Explorer 6.0 running on Windows XP!

Many web sites that require encryption (such as banks and online retailers) don't verify if your browser support high encryption, they just check the browser version.

This registry hack will make Pocket Internet Explorer identifies itself as Internet Explorer 6.0 running on Windows XP, which may let you connect to web site that check the browser version

NOTE - This hack will prevent web sites that provide Pocket PC specific content to be able to know you're actually using a Pocket PC.

Browse to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent \

Change the default value from "Mozilla/2.0" to "Mozilla/4.0".

Change the "Version" value from "MSIE 3.02" to "MSIE 6.0".

Change the "Platform" value from "Windows CE" to "Windows NT 5.1".

Some web sites may just compare the user agent string, but if this is not enough, browse to the Post Platform\ sub key and delete the "240x320" value that specifies screen size.
[Shift General] killer_t:
Guys, why i can't open xda-developers web site from windows mobile with the internet explorer posted in tito's guide?:(
[Shift General] guidogiangiacomo:
It doesn't work on my shift.

Is there another way? I can see pictures opened when I insert a picture in a mail, so some kind of program is in the shift. How can I activate it to see picture?

Pimg.exe (Picture and Videos) is not present in the shift, just as link in startup menu but non working: someone could test if copying the right files it will work?

Thanks
[Shift General] juiceppc:
OMG! Sorry to break the flow of this amazing thread. All I can say is WTF is wrong with HTC for making you people jump through all these hoops? They should have just implemented full blow WinMo to begin with. What a bunch of D-Bags. Really. I'm really starting to hate that company.

Here's to you smarties figuring all this out.

SD access

800x480 resolution

GPS

Phone support
[Shift General] cmonex:
news: i talked to a shift owner on MSN - had his shift hard reset without booting WM.

the tools to do that are not public yet, but i'm writing something that'll make it a lot more userfriendly, right now it isn't. though this is one of the tasks that'll be done faster on the actual device when the project gets enough donations. :)

until then, if someone's really desperate with a bricked WM, you can contact me in PM and i'll help.

so you can go on with WM hacks / experiments, there *is* a way to hard reset :) even if you totally screw up WM. but of course i don't recommend just going ahead and try every hack on earth, because you'll still need to PM me for help and wait until i can get back to you... that will be so until the userfriendly tool is made.

you can also flash ROMs using a similar method. i will need help to test SD drivers using that method, until the device can be bought
[Shift General] danielherrero:
wow, really nice news¡¡¡¡.

Thanks

Dani
[Shift General] Vs1979:
cmonex,

I don't have any problems with my Shift, but am happy to give your tests a whirl.

If you want to PM me with the details, I'll happily try it.

At the moment, my Office blocks MSN and as I am in really basic accomodation at the moment, its difficult to get access to the net to load MSN at the moment, but I'm happy with slow delays etc of messaging via emails.

Anything for the furthering of the project....

Any ideas with the SD stuff as well....
[Shift General] citivolus:
cmonex, that's fantastic news! not to get to far ahead, but do you think wifi access from WM will also be feasible at some point?
[Shift General] michael85:
They will try this offcourse. I had a conversation about this.

I think it's possible to work with WiFi with Vista on (connect it using WMDC)

I also think it's possible to get the WiFi working without Vista powered on.

The WiFi card is an SDIO card and I know they are working on drivers for this to see if it works.

BUT, they need a test Shift for that so keep on donating everybody! :D
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Hi Daniel,

or maybe some of the other experts.

Can you please check, if that great simplification to liberate the shift to be found on the MoDaCo site will work for non-English versions of WM.

There is this issue of the startup folder (Spanish inicio, mine will be the German equivalent) that has to be created and so on. Daniel has reported and warned several times.

Or isn’t that an issue with the automated changes that are made following the instructions on MoDaCo?

Am I right that this is a step taken later?

Thanks for your help.

Settembrini
[Shift General] mw65719:
Just to make everybodies life a little easier and save some "search time", here is a link to the MoDaCo thread that Settimbrini is talking about: http://www.modaco.com/content/Windows-Mobile-News/266537/Liberate-your-HTC-Shift/, found this in the Shift forum of UMPCPortal.com
[Shift General] rosrog:
Can anyone help? after upgrading to wm6, my calendar fails to accept new appointment, gives error message to restore database.
[Shift General] cmonex:
thanks, but the tests need MSN (or icq, yahoo, IRC, all that is fine), so i hope your msn access will get better later. :)

SD testing comes after flashing ;)
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I dont know if It was specified in modco. I didnt see it. But be sure you create \windows\startup directory because german startup directory wont be executed after you install realvga and copy to it links to file explorer and maybe (clearstorage).
[Shift General] rpawly:
just checking in from my business trip. nice video :) where was that 2 weeks ago!! :)

cmonex good news with the hard reset, if i were home id be on with ya :)
[Shift General] vido:
Hi Andy,

First and foremost I must thank all those that have worked hard to get the shift more usable. The question for you is how did you get your shift screen to fill up the whole screen?

I have installed RealVGA as well as the 96dpi package but when I turn it on, the icons look very small and I still don't have the full use of the whole screen.

Can you or someone please tell me how this can be achieved, is it thriugh the use of the iconlauncer or am i missing something here? I took Snapvue off the today menu and all I had left was just a blank screen (I could have added more stuff to it but still it wouldn't ave filled the whole area)

Thanks in advance for this.

Regards,

Vido.
[Shift General] sbueschi:
Vido

you can adapt that by increasing the size under settings/system/screen-text size. This for the screen texts. For homescreen icons it demends which icons and programmes you use. In quickmenu you can chose big or small icons.

For unselecting snapvue i hope you followed the earlier instructions in the sticky topic on i.e. howto enable today elements BEFORE you disable snapvue.

Otherswise i recommend strongly to follow titos or the modaco walkthru. cheers
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Just to clarify, there is not yet any way to make windows mobile on the Shift run in wvga, so we're stuck with vga which leaves the black bars at the sides.
[Shift General] HDLord:
The Acrobat Reader is bloated, I agree. There is freeware called Pocket XPDF, available at http://pocketxpdf.sourceforge.net/, which is only about 1 MB and does the trick. You have to save the attachment before you can open it, but that's a small price to pay to save 7 MB, I would suggest!
[Shift General] HDLord:
Is there a progress bar showing how close you are to affording a machine?
[Shift General] Pawel062:
provision.zip is for htc's connection setup to setup ur data connections to connect properly to ur network. we all use this on other wm devices so know what it is. im pretty sure u can get rid of its reg and connection setup files and use that space. dont see really where it could affect the device in any way. once ur connection is setup who needs it :p UNLESS u travel and use different sims.
[Shift General] sniveri:
for mxip_initdb.vol:

http://www.airfagev.com/forum_view.asp?nav=1&msg_id=92804&referer=forum_topics.asp%3Fcode%3Dall
[Shift General] HDLord:
Has anyone tried reducing the size of their mxip_initdb.vol file this way? One thing that you clearly cannot do is to back up Contacts onto the SD card (yet), and I am reluctant to sync with the Vista side (as this is not a back up, and I could end up losing all my Contacts). Personally, all of my Contacts are synced with my Exchange server, so I can get them back that way.

Sniveri posts a link which suggests that a wayward mxip_initdb.vol file is only 1.6MB, TEN times smaller than on the Shift! A reduction would clearly be a huge saving, but has anyone been successful reducing it, yet?
[Shift General] kamikun:
Lookin' for some bullet points...

Just an interested outsider watching this all develop and weighing getting a Shift.

Could someone answer some basic questions? Or set up a FAQ page or sumptin' for this kind of Shift-related stuff?

1. I understand that the liberation won't survive a hard reset, so how often does the Shift need to be hard-reset while operating in full-on WM mode? (And roughly how long do you think it takes to completely "recover" from a hard-reset?)

2. How much RAM does the WM side operate with? 64Meg? 128? The entire RAM that's available to the Vista side?

3. Are apps that are installed in WM mode installed to the hard drive or into RAM? IOW, will installed WM apps survive a hard-reset? (Could traditional backup programs like Sprite or Spb be used to restore the previous registry?)

4. Any idea what kind of battery life you might get just operating in WM mode alone?

finally

5. In your opinion is the conversion yet to a point that the Shift can function as a WM replacement device? (i.e. Can you use it as reliably as any other WM device for work or play?) If not, do you think it'll get there?

Sorry if these questions have been asked before; thanks.
[Shift General] cmonex:
yes in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=376111

though it needs to be updated by ltxda, hopefully tomorrow
[Shift General] cmonex:
2.: it uses its own ram, 64MB

3.: neither, they are installed into nand flash. a hard reset by definition means clear the storage so no. but if you just mean removing the battery, then yes apps survive the reset, that's not a hard reset.

4.: it seems it's quite good.

5.: not yet but it will be achieved soon.
[Shift General] kamikun:
Thanks for that. Shame that the memory is stuck at 64... that's sooo WM2003. I assume NAND and RAM are seperate? Would hope so.

It's amazing to watch you guys suss this out. I agree with the other posters here; why did they go to so much trouble to cripple WM when it's obvious that there are so many users who really want the mobile functionality.
[Shift General] nbos04:
the answer to the above is "Don't Know", but I could guess it has to do with the release of Exchange 2007 and the push by Intel and MS to create greater usage with Exchange and Intel "integrated" solutions. After all, one of the very first press releases for the Shift had the CEO of HTC and one of the lead directors of Intel on stage together to talk about their "partnership". Not that I am paranoid, I am just sceptical. After all, WM allows from individual usage, while SnapVue forces an Exchange requirement and ensures you are relient on VISTA (currently the only OS running for this) to use the full capability of the box. It also is trying to expand the UMPC/PPC market into the corporate world where "big money" can be made with some significant tax breaks to boot - no matter what country you are in.

OK maybe I am a little paranoid.

Final point - I may not be a computer wiz (at least not for a long time), but watching everyone here crack the WM issue is amazing. Well done. Once I get the Paypal bugs fixed (I am currently stuck on a modem line due to circumstances), my donation will be coming to this cause.

Cheers and beers all!