yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
In the next update, I could place this as an option on aroma-installer (you could choose between selinux permissive or enforcing).
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] benstyle1:
An opt-out for gapps would be nice.

Thanks for your work.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] zhuchella:
Plz, add full photo for incoming calls.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] totalnoob34:
That'd be much appreciated. I need to pass SafetyNet! :(

EDIT: I forgot to thank you for creating this. Choice in ROMs is good :D
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] AndroidEJ7:
Agreed! Would love to be able to flash NanoMod with this, which I haven't been able to do on Fulmics.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] xXNahNahXx:
Does Android Pay work with this rom?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] totalnoob34:
I don't think so, but I can't test the ROM until the H850 version is released.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] xXNahNahXx:
Yup just tried it out and can confirm Android Pay doesnt work, and SafetyNet Check does fail.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] rock-2:
ScreenShot please????
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] askermk2000:
I'm downloading H850 version now. I was having problems with installing Fulmics 5.0, talk about good timing :)
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
Remember not to install the rom until the two zip are available. :)
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
In the next update this is corrected.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
In the new build you can select this apk from aroma-installer. Thanks
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Hadi99:
Can I migrate from the odex version of the ROM to deodexed (when that gets released) without having to cleanflash?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
Not, it is not possible. Is required a clean flash.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
There is a build available for your variant. Contact me in private for the tests on RS988 variant.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
There is a build available for your H850 variant. Contact me in private for the tests.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] goast:
Pm sent
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
By the way, Safety net passes with permissive selinux or enforcing.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] totalnoob34:
Oh, does it? Didn't know that. I thought that security feature was mandatory for SN. That's good to know.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] wolfu11:
PM sent,

. Thank You
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Ziomall123:
Hi, is the version for H850 working?? I'd like to try Your rom.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
great rom runs great 20L was hot this rom is fast and keeps heat down just don't turn kernel panic off lol I did I keep hd calling video calls just don't use global apn passes safety net used custom kernel in zip don't flash any other kernel did that too
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] black metallic:
the battery drain is ridiculous
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Tinbender418:
Having issues with the link. I only see downloads for the g3. Would like to at least try the deodexed version for h830.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
The deodex version for the H830 variant is up for test.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] wolfu11:
This is the error for the rs988

SYNAX ERROR!!! aroma-config on line 246 col 49

Updater process ended with error 1

Error installing zip file
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] wolfu11:
edit: double post please remove
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
I will check
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] AndroidEJ7:
Any way you could make gapps optional?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
830t deodexed works great the v30 cam is flawless all modes work the only problem now is odexed v2 configuration file on all versions at the moment the v1 configuration works dev is working on it

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gapps isn't possible now you can use nano close as you'll get in this roms options if you use global you get no hd voice but tmobile apns work great no heat like 20l played mc5 for 1 straight with Bluetooth on it was little warm not like it was
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] AndroidEJ7:
I just didn't want any google apps at all. Tried G-Killer but it just sends me into a bootloop. Not sure if possible with stock ROMs but would love to use MicroG/NanoMod with this. Would be the perfect ROM for me.

If the dev could look into it for those of us that prefer no google apps, it would be much appreciated!! :)
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
I haven't done nano on this rom just flashing every way to see what happens but you can try needle or haystack with nano mod but nano works this rom runs fast I wouldn't worry about gapps
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
New config zip gives error but this one don't so hopefully soon files will be up after testing and dev has time to double check
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
they had problems with their infrastructure.

https://sg-mktg.com/MTUxMjI2MDQ5Mnw...9fFTyJEuajn-RdWPM75dcDYU4RcuvXJpNT68F565V99xX
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
This error was fixed. New test build available.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] wolfu11:
When i tried the new one the phone booted up to the white encrypted screen asking for a reset which sends the phone into a twrp boot loop.

I really appreciate your effort on this but I have relocked the bootloader and am selling this phone.

Going to try my luck with a different Manufacturer.

Thank You
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
If you are root, you should flashed no-verify-encrypt and format data partition (no wipe) before to flash any Rom.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
Rom is a good one worth the wait.ive always format data then wipe dalvik, system , data , internal and cashed then flash no-verity-opt-encrypt-5.1 don't reboot go home in twrp go to reboot options choose reboot to recovery when it does you swipe to modify system flash Rom then do no-verity-opt-encrypt-5.1 again lol never lost recovery that way
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] wolfu11:
I know this info thanks, that wasn't the cause.

it was something else I was trying to do while installing the rom (long story). has to do with 21c..

I figured it out after the fact but.........

I'm just tired of LG I guess and ready to move on.

Take Care
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Manhas:
Installed h850 and config file after and always stuck on boot
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
I should review the installation of official xposed and asgard kernel for the H850 variant. These two features are causing bootlop. If you use stock kernel, you would not have problems.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Manhas:
I

tried with stock and asgard both of them always stuck on boot
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ivanfix:
Sorry, where is the configuration file for 850 model?

Inviato dal mio LG-H850 utilizzando Tapatalk
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] suhridkhan:
Working great on H830.

The standby battery drain is much better compared to the stock rom.

Thanks.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
I flashed asgard worked easy all configuration zips 830t had guy flash it on 850 too and it worked great no issues Cesar I sent logs but it works right never had probs
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
sorry issues with upload my bad just showing it works
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] NolenUmar:
cesarandres_8911, thanks for the ROM! I was trying to see if the vulken andreno drivers worka on other roms, theoretically, would it be fine if i just copy the system folder the drivers are in and paste them, say, while in twrp?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] :
For people using this rom, I would like to know if this rom is better than Fulmics and why, as I am yet to see a reason to change over. Thanks
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] suhridkhan:
This is more stock and simple than Fulmics, which I like.

Also, last time I checked (don't know the current situation), t-mobile WiFi calling was not working on fulmics.

It's just a matter of personal preference.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
This is how you flash

Erik C:

in twrp format data back out to wipe dalvik,system,internal,and cache then hit home install no verity don't reboot hit home go to reboot options in twrp reboot recovery it will start back to twrp swipe to allow mods then flash Rom don't reboot you just flashed new boot and system data go to home in recovery flash no verity then home reboot options in twrp reboot recovery flash configuration zip for extra flash no verity again to be safe then you are good

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don't put global apn you lose hd voice and video calling on 830t use T-Mobile apn config Rom is great Ian just a tester but trying to help
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
deodexed version when ready 830t, the network is better on this Rom for me so far
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] doncompadre:
is it needed for 850 version to install also a config.zip ? i saw that the file is 2GB and the 830 is only 1.8 GB.

so must is still wait for the config file to use this rom on my 850 or is the 1 file i can download enough to work with it?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Smart Ru:
Everything doing good Wt a fantastic from it is. But there still have some bug I think. fr example.When I tried to change my network mode.Ifound it didn't work... Second,I don't know where can I change my beast video sttimg.. Final, I wonder why the charge speed was so lowed .

The output of my power bank is 5v 2a.:)

Tks slot.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] totalnoob34:
First off, please read through what you post, man.

For what concerns the charging current, the phone behaves as it should, limiting the current when the screen is on. If you try powering off the screen, waiting a minute, then checking Ampere again, you will see a higher current. Keep in mind that some older power banks don't play well with new phones, I had to replace mine with a Quick Charge compatible one.

I can't help you with the network issue, though.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Smart Ru:
All in all, Tks you a lot.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Char_G:
Oh nice, a new ROM for our h830 :)
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
you have 850 or 830 the battery issue just change the thermal file or get magisk version charging_tweaker.zip the network issue if 830 do dial code *#546368#*830# or 850 in pdp is apn and before that there's more and calibrating battery helps after flashing this rom
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
Ive tested this ROM odex and deodexed its about ready now after holidays should be close Cesar
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Negrin82:
I want to try this, but there is nothing in the download folder. Is there any mirror? Thanks in advance??
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] jsergan:
Here are direct links for v1.0 odex

H830 https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=231552

H850 https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=231557
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Negrin82:
Thanks![emoji1531]

Sent from my LG-H830 running RR in Puerto Rico

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Not found...

Sent from my LG-H830 running RR in Puerto Rico
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Overclock96:
This is a very good firmware, it's better than Fulmix!

But I would like to know when will the update?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
cesar is very busy his job keeps him I'll try to find out something for you guys I run 830t deodexed he will find time soon try telegram links posted for rom
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] jsergan:
This one? H830

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962021903579494961

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617949240

H850

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617949569

If not, then try to use VPN
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] vkeza057:
Please explain. I think people would like to know the details. What is better than Fulmics?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] jm98:
I can answer that. It is more fluid than the stock rom. And the stock rom is more fluid than Fulmics.

But i'm staying with fulmics because it has more features... :)
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
have v30 with manual mode working Cesar will probably put it in Rom or we will make a zip
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
see and that's play store graphy and works
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Phong phamj:
the 2.0 version is soo smooth
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] TitoXx:
Nice ROM it works great so far, the only issue I have is that VoLTE isn't working for T-mobile. I thought this was based of the original 20N Rom.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
volte works man just don't pick global I fixed op to say that if you pick global you lose hd calling video to reinstall wipe data to be safe do it clean
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] TitoXx:
I didn't pick global, I might have to reinstall.

Edit: Got it fixed, was an issue with sim card. now it works fine.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Azul Baseem:
2.0 is flying and Mk's latest beta is simply the icing on the cake for me. I SINCERELY appreciate being able to debloat before setup. The only thing I could recommend is adding some other apps to the debloat list, like TMobile and Lookout (darn thing starts scanning before phone is even set up) or anything one might gain from losing, just for added convience. :cyclops:

Thank you very much Cesar!
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Manhas:
Is there an h850 2.0 version? Thanks
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Azul Baseem:
H850 was discontinued, as mentioned in OP, but the config files still work
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
if you use twrp you can mount system and goto system priv-app or app delete anything you want it will stick make backup in case I'm not dev just help 850 config still works its in op and g6 cam works everything is running but wallpaper changing
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] melodystyle2003:
Anyone has actually tested it on h850 to share his experience?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
I tried on 20n 830t and worked I flash kernel mk beta after everything was done configuration and worked perfectly it will work I'm sure
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Negrin82:
Can't find V2.....

Sent from my LG-H830 running RR in Puerto Rico
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Azul Baseem:
Search 'H830' in androidfilehost
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Genji-2d:
I downloaded the V2.0 file but in aroma it said 1.0. I checked the aroma changelog, still identical to 1.0? Any tips to why's that?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
v2.0 is deodexed 20n didn't need anything but that v1.0 is odexed 20m but config files can be used on 20n not the Rom all downloads are in op nimax project the link is right leads to files
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Genji-2d:
In a nutshell i need to be on 20n freshly stock and flash config.zip for V2.0? Cause in the androidfilehost there a full folder label 2.0 with the H830_20N_V2.0 with the size of a full rom
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Genji-2d:
Update: Its an aroma mistake just flashed the file and OS tells me is nimax 2.0. OP could at least add that warning in thread
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Hadi99:
Btw the lack of manual mode on the G6 camera is due to the image quality mod. If you check that thread, there is a fix for it.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
mmanual mode works on g6 cam I had no issues I have v30 cam working great also if anyone has problem I have xml for g6 cam goes in root etc folder not cam ill upload if you need me media.xml permissions 0644 works great that's fix
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] dowisetrepla:
Is anyone else having issues with WiFi calling? I get error REG99.

Everything else seems to work, the ROM is smooth!
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
I never had a issue but we will look in to that no o e else did what phone do you have
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cesarandres_8911:
Dont selected apn global setting during aroma installer (when you flashed the zip file from twrp). The global apn setting brick the wifi calling and video calling. You need use apn stock from T-Mobile.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] dowisetrepla:
Correct, I'm using both the stock apn and kernel. Volte and video calling work, it's just wifi calling giving me the error, so just trying to figure out if it's an error on my end or a bug.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
this is etc stock pan put in etc 0644 then restart see if it helps
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
try mk kernel beta or whatever they work great for me you're first one with issue
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Genji-2d:
There is one thing that kill's this rom greatness.. Is that the home screen wallpaper does not change.. I can apply a new theme and everything is fine (wallpapers changed) but on a reboot it revert back to the default one? Anytips on that.. It a downside for me because i do update a lot of root module and they all need a reboot to apply
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
the wallpaper fix is coming soon Cesar is trying I'm looking into also it will be fixed soon join telegram if you want to test new features when they come and v30 camera will probably be put back in since it works great now
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
Okay wallpapers sticking what you need to do is switch to easy home delete LG home reboot wipe data on 360 wallpaper and any LG wallpaper app in app manager I'll have new home fixed soon but use whatever you like magisk mod xml let's you install Sony motor any home app from play store we will get fixed thanks
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] misquia:
I think there should more stock apps added to AROMA's uninstall list like: Amazon, LG Backup, Lookout, Quick Help, Tasks, and the T-Mobile apps (Device Unlock, T-Mobile Name ID, T-Mobile TV, etc), just to name a few.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
tmobile apps just make back up go to twrp mount system go to advanced then file manager /system/app or /system/priv-app make sure you're in folder of app click blue check delete.lg has weird thing about system apps titanium backup had to come up with force remove by recovery way back g2 I think
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] Azul Baseem:
Agreed :) just a nice idea to avoid the manual process
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] zlatkomas:
Hi I wanted to say your rom is great and I like it. I was wondering if you could added some tweaks

1. In navigation bar for back key -Long press acction ( custom ex. Kill app)

2. Quick Pin unlocks (unlock the phone automatically when you entered PIN or fingerprint is correct )

3. Always allow fingerprint unlock even after rebot

4. Choose of Force connection on 4g or 3g or 2g

Thanks
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
Cwould someone test this wallpaper fix unzip and move to system priv-app not flushable it worked for me
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] sandemans:
Does the bluetooth calls work with handfrees and weareables?

Regards
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] abced123:
Compare to Fulmics ROM ?

Any diff compared to Fulmics 5.5 ? What is /system size ?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] nizarp:
Can anyone confirm if VoLTE (H830) works on this ROM?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] jsergan:
Unfortunately didn't work for me
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] goxthak0:
Is installation guide is same for v2 or just need to flash in Aroma installation
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
v2 installs the same way js it worked for others but we did in twrp did you wipe data for wallpaper and restart fix will be included next update you can change to other lock screen long as its not live right
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] gotandroid73:
It works. Ensure you change permissions after moving. Minor bug Kaliedascope force closes. Great Rom!
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] ecompton59:
thanks for checking that yes folder 0755 everything else 0644 I'm just a tester cesar did great we have v30 cam working and wallpaper next update will have no issues at all
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] boybkol:
Video call is not working on this Rom even though I enabled volte and disabled global apn in aroma. Is there any fix?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] opoeta:
Any way to install on H850 ?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] neearai:
when core.jar was cracked by lucky patcher, All the Apks will not be able to installed.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] badmf80:
Was wondering if anybody has t-mobile wifi calling confirmed working on this rom? Saw that some people were having trouble with it.

Also, this has Xposed framework correct? Does that mean that it can't pass safetynet?

Thanks in advance.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] TitoXx:
T-Mobile wifi calling and VoLTE work fine.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] dietoro:
this rom seem the best till now, let's seen in the future.
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] jerryspring:
Chose system su and system xposed and when opening Xposed it says it's not installed. What went wrong?

H830

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No more rom and fixes zips links? Not in the o.p. Thanks
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] VIPID4U:
Hello can you help me install / flash twrp on my H830 lg g5 so i can try this custom rom. I would reallyappreciate it thanks in advance
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] SaidJan:
Telegram group link doesn't work. Please update it.

Also any plan to update to H83020o ?
[LG G5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Developme] cheeze.keyk:
is this discontinued [MENTION=6969018]cesarandres_8911[/MENTION] ?