yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chrismrulz:
Updated my bootloaders again. The drivers now install properly on a x64 os.

Looks like the GUI Version has been fixed now too.

Successfully flashed a hx4700 under vista x64 with it.

Download: BootLoader | BootLoader (GUI Version)

The only thing that may potentially not work is the GUI version under devices other than the hx4700, or flashing the official roms with the GUI version.

Theoretically they should, but I don't think it's been tested yet.

Anyone making hx4700 roms, why not include these instead of the hacked HP ones?

It will have far less troubles. the HP ones can brick your device.

You can even make a settings.ini to auto-install your rom so they don't have to select the file.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chaimanu:
This question to WiFi user.

Which SIP phone do you use on HX4700?

Which configure tools and SIP software work and stable?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tbmorris:
Virus warning

I keep getting a virus warning when downloading these files. Avast terminates download. Anything to be concerned about or is this just ?a fluke.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chrismrulz:
nope, its just the way it works is a bit similar to what viruses do.

doesn't touch anything in your system though.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zivelik:
my ipaq stack

i tri to install any rom by the bootloader but i got :

HTCSPass.< YHTCEUSB>lnb C:\BootLoader\WM6_4700_ENG_0_32_FIX3nb0

:F=C:\BootLoader\WM6_4700_ENG_0_32_FIX3nb0

:A=80000000

=00040000

:L=FFFFFFFF

start NB image download

Fail to synchronize with the host (1)

USB>

sins that the i can't do no sr or samthing elss

hav you any idia
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kotsa:
hx4700 bricked:(

Today I was flashing WM6.1 on my hx4700. Everything was OK until I came to my PC and found my 4700 dead, display turned off, not responding, totaly bricked. It looks like it have a drained battery, but it showed around 85% when i started flashing it.

I have no idea what to do now.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pegaz:
I had the same, read my post few posts above...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chrismrulz:
basically just, dont flash with the hp ruu bootloaders (mods or official).

they stuff up under certain os's (bricking your device), offer less options, and don't allow all versions to work because of the secuirty / version checking.

mine shouldn't be able to brick your device. it will either flash the rom properly or not at all.

i've even taken my hx4700 out while mine was flashing to it and it just needed a soft reset (although it's not recommended to try that).

if you like ease of use, you can use my GUI version of the bootloader. seems to be 100% working for hx4700's. just hasn't been tested for other iPAQs where it may tell you it's finished when it's not.

sometimes mine can recover one screwed up with the hp bootloader, but the damage may be permanent depending on where it happened in the flash.

alkor will hopefully be including my bootloader with his roms from now on.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kotsa:
I was using your bootloader (BootLoader.exe).

I tried to measure voltage of my main battery, V-meter shows 2,792V. I think this is my problem, battery is drained. I'll get my wall charger tomorrow (I left it in my office) and try to recharge it. But it was about 85% on that WM5 meter, probably some kind of error :confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
chris, sorry to interrupt but what is shown on the "bootloader mode" screen???

http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/ipaq-hx47xx-series/231049-dead-hx4700-recovery-possilbe.html

we need help in this thread...please
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jellogwapo:
PI 8 problem

hi, i reflashed my hx4700 with sanjay's SL61V3 rom

everything works fine, and fast but when i tried to install PI 8, i get the following message when i try to run the program (after successful installation):

The specified module could not be found.

i've tried several soft resets and reinstalls but i keep on getting the same problem. the PI 8 installs successful but i can't run it.

i've tried to google for possible solutions to this problem but no good. i only found two links in russian forums having the exact same problem with hx4700 unit upgraded to wm6.

any ideas? any help would be greatly appreciated!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pegaz:
backlight

Hey,

I couldn't find it. Does anybody know how to turn off automatic backlight that turns on when sd/mmc inserted/ejected ? It really makes me nervous.:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] albertorrent:
Hi

I would like tu upgrade my hx4700.

please tell me wich of these rom have :

WM6.1

net CF3.5

IRDA working

wifi WEP and WPA working.

thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
Ping ... Ping

Seems this thread has gone dormant. Is anybody home ... have we wrapped up our tasks for our hx4705?

Or just moved to another page?

Frank K-F
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] albertorrent:
Yes, it would be great if a final rom with every thing working well would come out.

If it already did, please, let us know.

thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello Frank,

I do think that there is not much more that we can do with our beloved but aging 4700. The ROMs that are out are good, but certainly not all perfect for all people. Kozhura and PhamQuang did some good ROMs. These and ones they spawned in this thread and the Kozhura's are about as good as it's going to get for the 4700. The 4700 is aging and I think most of us will move on soon to newer devices. Some might even skip the new iToyComputer device.

I still use my SL61V03 lite ROM and it fits my needs perfectly. However, I confess my 4700 is literally wearing out. My battery life is really poor and some buttons occasionally fail. But it still works - like those two little robots still traveling around Mars many years after they should have died. I doubt there will be another base ROM for the 4700 but who knows...perhaps some genius will port WM7 to the 4700 - if our batteries still function.

Long live the 4700. Best regards to all that still use it.

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elparra72:
Hi Sanjay,

I'm trying to cook my own ROM based on Vivi kitchen but I'm having a lot of problems with XIP porting. I'm reading a lot of posts and it looks easy but and I'm doing a lot of test but my ROMs don't boot :-). Do you have experience on this?. Could you help me?. I've changed SYS to 20273 (With troubles in some dlls) but boot but with XIP is 19949 and I can't change it. Thanks a lot in advance.

El Parra
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
sorry to hear your 4700 is playing up.

i would like to thank you for your lite version , i have been using it for a long time now and it suites me fine. i added opera,TCPMP and Sprite backup..it works perfectly until I installed software for 2003 and crashed it...lol

reflashed with your rom again and restored the backup.. working perfect again....

i have a question though. do you know how to get rid of the soft buttons at the bottom of the today screen? mine show calendar and contacts both a bit redundant seeing as there are buttons for these....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
Is this out there? With no blank bubbles?

Does anyone know if this is out there? Without the the blank bubbles. NET CF2.0 in the rom would be fine.

Thank-you

Sunday
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] djcristi:
new build, wm6.1 20748 has Flashlite 3.1 integrated, hope to see this on hx4700 :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elparra72:
yes djcristi but all that new ROMs are base on Omnia ROM and they've ported XIP 20748 only. SYS is 20273. Alkor has a HX4700 ROM based on 20273 XIP and SYS but I've not tested yet. You can try it and post your experiences ....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello El Parra,

I used maimach's tools directly instead of using Vivi's kitchen. Vivi's work is great, but for me the tools directly were better. They are designed for WM5 but work really well on WM6.1 as well. Give them a shot. You can find them on this forum.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hi Spud42,

Thank you for the kind words. I will continue to use my 4700 until I can't stand the battery life anymore and then will look for something else.

Wisbar has an option to remove the calendar and contacts buttons. You may find this thread interesting.

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=260306

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello

My 4700 runs BT GPS ONLY with GPSGATE , I cant make it work directly , bt mannager works , paired devices etc but all soft dont work with bt gps directly always I must run GPSGATE before , Its a rom trouble ?? 6,1 Algasys

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
lhasistos,

If I understand your question correctly, I think you are saying that GPS works only after you run GPSGATE and not before. If so, your installation of GPSGATE may be the problem. I do not have GPSGATE installed but use another BT navigation program without problems on my Lite ROM. You may want to remove GPSGATE and see if that helps other apps perform better.

If I have misunderstood your question, then perhaps you can explain further.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
yes i too run sanjays v3_lite rom. i have no trouble with a GPS mouse i bought off ebay and tomtom6....

so if sanjays suggestion does not wirk for you maybe try his rom? i have used it for well over 6 months with no problems...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
First thanks both , yes ,Sanjay you are in the way its correct , but I cant run garmin Que without gps gate . all other gps soft that needs to connect to my Holux dont SEE any gps if I dont run GPSGATE before(bt ok see and paired device).I suppoused that GPSGATE take control over all com ports.This not happend in my old HP WM5 (please, never more ).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
I am using Garmin Mobile 10x and Garmin Mobile xt software without any issues. Today I tried Astro Navigator II with the same device and needed to set the correct com ports in the External GPS settings under settings.

I think your problem lies in the com port you need to identify which port is default for the GPS and then set it up accordingly in the programs.

Hope it helps
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello : Trouble was some wrong value in register from GpsGate , I made a hard reset and see that all works fine , Garmin with GPSGATE and other soft without it . Now I make an clean install of my soft .Thank you for responses , ROM work fine isnt the problemm.

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
hey ZinFab,

i see from your sig you are using mame and nes and neogeo emu's.how are you controling the games?? never mind silly me i just reread you sig and saw the BT gamepad... which one is it? is it the chainplus one that was out a few years ago? if not which one and what drivers are you using to get it to work?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
It is the chainpus one works like a dream I did manage to get the latest drivers I can email then etc if someone wants...The controller I bought on ebay, it was more an experiment but hey Metal Slugs is the S&*t
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rockerduck:
It's really hard to choose the right rom ... they seem to be all nice...

I generally use tt6 and opera in wireless wpa connections. Which one do you recommend?

thank you
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
I think that its the best choice , until netfront or opera 9,5 works over device memmory.I experienced with these 2 browsers that always something works in device mem. and turns filesys exe working for a time .Netfront are unestable in external memmory ,not in use only when you turn on the device and opera 9.5 some files isnt impossible send to cf or sd card , when you close the browser filesys works one or two minutes , you can see this in task mannager or in drain current .Opera mini dont have any trouble , you run with ie 28 mg free mem and close over a large navigation with 28 mg free mem.For me its the best , for you tube or streaming video im use TCPMP.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Yop.Solo:
Should ActiveSync be installed ?

I'm new in this forum. Hello to everybody !

I just bought an hx4700 on eBay and found this forum while googling about it. I would like to try the Rom from Kozhura on my device.

For "Step 0", I've a fresh (re)installed Windows XP SP3 to flash the iPAQ but I would like to know if the bootloader will work if I don't install ActiveSync 4.5.

Thank You.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
Install AS 4.5 first. I believe that some drivers get installed so that XP can communicate with PDA. Pair up your PDA to your PC and then run the bootloader. Bootloader will kill the AS service automatically and then bootloader can be used to flash your PDA.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rockerduck:
thank you lhasistos so... which rom do you recommed for using tomtom and a reliable wpa wifi connection?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello Rockerduck

Im using Algasys 1710 rom , you can find in first post ,at this time I dont find any troubles ,, I tell you my litle experience , cheked with IRDA , BT , WI FI WPA (im not test but Im sure thats works) , Installed and working GPS Mobile xt OK , Garmin Que OK ( I use QUE instead of Mobile xt its more usefull for me but i have installed XT ok), TCPMP ok also in video streaming , Opera mini with Java , NAVGPS PRO ( Aviation soft ) ok , Adobe reader from diamond V2,5 ok , HI Calc ok , Active sync via BT ok , A2DP audio BT ok , Flex mail ok ,Resco explorer and resco registry OK also Im test a lot of soft no troubles at all (always was MY SETTINGS or something , never rom troubles ) PIE dont works well , HERE YES Probably rom , but I test PIE in IPAQ 211 and dont works also with original HP WM6 ..............

I have not installed NOW any soft thats makes miracles ( SK TOOLS ; MEMAID ; PMECHANIK :etc you will have misterious troubles in one or other time, belive me , if you need make changes by hand in registry or files ,I work very hard for tune my 4700 )) I never install TOM TOM because I dont have maps for my country , I m use MOBILE or QUE from Garmin because here I have a beautifull pack of vectorial maps of my country and others countrys too. I also test IRDA OK , Now I have a clean install only with soft that I need , I never installed other rom Im happy with this , sorry its my experience

If you want ask me more I will help you
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello

I dont know if its the correct place , sorry if not

I have IPAQ 4700 ( I love ) also a IPAQ 211 , 211 have a very low volume from factory , but if I go to TCPMP I can increase volumen in steps with "increase pre amp 25%" and works with a good level (only here) The question can I touch some registry value that control general volumen level in OS WM6 ??

Regards

lhasistos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Yop.Solo:
Device stuck at clean reset

Thank you spetrie for your help.

Here a sum-up of what I did :

Clean XP SP3 installed (I never succeeded to use the Vista drivers so I use an old PC with Windows XP)

Installed ActiveSync 4.5

Paired up the PDA to my PC

Downloaded ChrisMRulez Bootloader and Kozhura ROM from http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/ in a root directory without space

Verified the ROM is not smaller than 130kb

Switched off the iPAQ with the soft switch at the top of the device

Put it in bootloader mode by pressing ITASK+CONTACTS+RESET simulataneously

Saw the word 'Serial" and the HP logo without backlight

Put the PDA in the cradle and "Serial" changed in "USB"

Executed the Bootloader

Selected the .rar previously downloaded

Waited a lot without closing any box (it helped me a lot !)

Waited until no *# signs are displayed anymore and "code entry point unknown" is displayed (drinked a lot of coffee :mad:)

Took the hx4700 out of the cradle and performed a clean reset by pressing CONTACTS+INBOX+RESET then been prompted to press the CALENDAR button.

Waited many times

Retried

Again and again...

Tried soft reset (nice WM6.1 black logo)

Tried again and again with some clean reset

Waited the "cancelling of data" until the battery gave up

And the device do not boot.

What's wrong ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rockerduck:
you don't have to select the rar file but extract previously the WM6.1xxx 130 mb file from inside the rar then select it...

(I don't think that the bootloader could handle rar files extracting the right file... but maybe I'm wrong??)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
you should do this with a fully charged battery. after the flash has finished you can plug in the wall charger to make sure the battery does not go flat.

i have been using sanjays v3_lite rom for 6 months with no problems.

can you get it into bootloader mode still?? if so try to flash it again. i think chriss said that you use the rar file but i didnt....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
here is a good place to look for this info and much more....

http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/ipaq-200-series-ipaq-210/
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Thanks Spud42 you help me ,if I found solution I post here

Yop.Solo I see in this forum that K rom have this trouble some times if you want try another rom , Im use Algasys V1710 without any trouble , good luck.

The strange thing its that you have the splash screen , you must wait a few minutes after this happends then the machine shows the calibration screen , wait please
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pegaz:
I had the same - you took the wrong kozhuras rom with error, he fixed it after people had problems with his first release(designed for 128 ram mod). Simply just download another rom maybe kozhuras or from someone else and do exactly the same what you did(flashing procedure).Must help.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sassa:
Maximum free memory

I'm looking for ROM with as much free memory as possible because I use hx4700 64Mb just for iGo8 GPS.

Here is my little analysis (immediatelly after hard reset, no SD or CF card)

SL61V3_lite:

Storage free 80,76

Program free 34,31

Alkor_B3:

Storage free 79,66

Program free 35,79

Alkor_B2_Ramsses_Kozhura_v1g

Storage free 80,26

Program free 37,96

So clear winner for now is v1g, but my iGo8 is still not stable enough. It works for navigation but crashes if I touch it too much.

Maybe somebody knows what is theoretical maximum we can achieve? Ramsses, is there a way to make lighter v1h?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] djcristi:
i'm using igo8 with the same rom , and no crashes, intercontinental routes etc, have some issues with some builds, but the latest work great.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
My personal view is that there's more to a ROM than how much free space it has; for me the better question is, does it work?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Yop.Solo:
It works !

Hello.

Thank you for your answers. You helped me a lot ! :)

I think you're wrong but I tried anyway and it failed. I think the problem is coming from the ROM file.

I always flash the device in the cradle with the plug in the wall (as recommended) but I do the clean reset without it. That's why I could wait until the battery ran out (about 3h). I know it was useless : I just was desperated.

So I looked for a v6 ROM from Kozhura and found a tread by himself in russian (thank you babelfish) showing a place to download the v5 ROM (thank you master).

I downloaded CEOS_WM6.1_R5_kozhura_Edition_.rar, unrared it (just to be sure), flashed it and it works ! :cool:

Of course, the clean reset and the first boot were cahotic but I'm very happy now :p

...Now I'm looking for a way to translate it in french :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Charles,

I've looked at earlier posts and didn't see other references to flaky BT issues. Perhaps I missed them, but the only one I found in my quick glance was post #42 from member GSX600FMAN.

So, I would like to ask...is BT more stable in WM6.0? If the problems is in the implementation of 6.1, I'm not sure I can improve it but am willing to try. I would ask PDAVIET but I don't speak Vietnamese.

Would appreciate any thoughts from others on this too.

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
Hi Canadian fellow,

I haven't tried ver WM6.0 and if I do, I believe it should be rel 4. So really I can't comment on it. I have to admit that I'm using BT intensively. I can have up to tree BT device at the same time like phone, GPS & handsfree. I found that I couldn't connect to my cell phone with BT Phone Manager while my BT GPS was working. Maybe this can helps you a bit more.

If someone in the assistance speaks Vietnamese, please raise your hand:D

BTW, if you want me to do test, I'm open to it.

Regards,

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Durex:
As was mentioned by ridolfo and others there are some issues with the HTC task manager not functioning correctly --- I notice that the "Running Programs List" is not correctly formatted. It would be my vote to remove the HTC Task Manager from this ROM, and leave the simpler one that is an official component of WM6.1. I think better solutions for managing tasks and terminating programs are provided by applications like iLauncher, etc.

Best wishes!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Durex:
Can we say "bye bye" to HTC Task Manager?

Thanks Sanjay for the comment. I've voted for reducing redundancy in the above post :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] algasystems:
Hi everyone!

If someone is interested, I've modified a bit sanjay's excellent work :)

- Splash screen sequence restored to original (hp qvga, hp vga, windows mobile)

- HTC X-Button (Task Manager) removed

- PDAViet customizations (device name, aku version, ecc.) almost removed

- Nav Point Mode link is now correctly created

- some registry fix/clean

I don't want to add mess here, so i'll upload the rom only if someone needs it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zoli2006:
Please upload!

I would be intrested : )

Because those the last things what don't like in it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
Hi,

It is not that I NEED it, but I like experimenting with all new developments. I believe that is the way to go forward. I believe many people share my thinking.

I am sorry I am not "techkie" enough to go into ROM cooking, but if I were, I would like other people to taste the recipies.

Thanks in advance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello algasystems,

I'm glad to see your improvements and would be very interested in seeing your ROM. It is exactly through the efforts of many to constantly improve these ROMS that we end up with something really great.

Regards

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cerebros:
If you're done with this "Factory" Rom then I'd also be really interested in using/testing it... This would be the shipping OEM State of 6.1 then?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] algasystems:
Ok, so here it is!

As usual, use at your own risk, etc., etc. :)

@pepeluu:

Yes, 'need' wasn't the right term I suppose.

Btw, beta testers are as useful as developers :D

@sanjay

You're right... and it's useful to learn something, at least!

@cerebros

Uhm... Something like that. Not exactly OEM-state, but something near...

I'm waiting an official 6.1 update to hp's new iPaq 210 to try to cook

something REALLY oem-like :D

bye,

algasystems
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zoli2006:
just to let others encourage: my update was succesful.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
Let us know your experience so far:)

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Charles,

You may want to try algasystem's variation to see if it corrects your bluetooth problems. Otherwise, I'm working on one with different bluetooth drivers that may work. If that works for my testing, I may take you up on your offer to test it with a phone. That's something for which I have no need, so your help would be wonderful.

Regards,

Sanjay