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[Shift General] danielherrero:
Yes, using mortscript cab....
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Install JBed first (or similar)
[Shift General] rpawly:
daniel its beyond that, ive loaded iexplorer6.1 (had to remove opera 5 megs) pocket office, and outlook 4 accounts with imap folders and i only got 15 megs left storage and program.

when i copy a large cab file on it complains about size whenever it drops below 10 megs, no documents, no nice browser, (or the cache to go with it), no pictures, no other media, no gps, no pretty front ends, no weather apps, no photo speed dials with the phone apps to come, no messenger, no networking tools. List goes on and on.

In my treo i have a 2 gig card and it works out nicely, the major thing for me is attachments in emails, on my phone i save them to sd card so im sure poutlook is taking a nice chunk of my storage memory.

daniel, what is your memory stats at now?
[Shift General] fatouraee:
Here you go http://rapidshare.com/files/99127595/office2007.CAB.html
[Shift General] rpawly:
fatouraee, the excel in that cab is not functioning on my shift. Install went fine other programs work from cab but excel gives brief hourglass then nothing.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
18 MB free. I installed.

1) Opera Mini. Its (imo) the best browser in the market in only 200 kb. Remove Opera and IExplorer.

2) Newbreak.

3) Pocket Weather

4) Resco file explorer and registry.

Thats all, by now
[Shift General] sbueschi:
9MB free, i have:

Resco explorer and registry

Office Reader

Quickmenu

no browser yet

picture viewer

1 exchange account with rather large agenda and contacts
[Shift General] fatouraee:
i will take a look and let you know asap...
[Shift General] rpawly:
but with opera mini you have to install jbed no? requires java

you have no email accounts setup?
[Shift General] rpawly:
can you post the office reader cab?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
yep,. jbed. But beleive, its nice.

I ve one direct push account and two more (gmail and hotmail)
[Shift General] fatouraee:
The office2007 cab works fine for me but i ma using an athena. :) . i want a shift and i already put the money a side for it . just waiting for u brave souls to get the kinks out :).. and in my free time i do programming for iphone and ppc.. and do some cooking and mods...

I have the office in individual cabs... :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
Ok i have tracked down my storage issues, the following files are taking half of my storage space, can someone shed some light as to what these files do?

We only have 37.44Mb to start with, these 9 files is 27 megs of so we only got 10 megs left :(

i swear tha mxip_initdb doesnt have to be 16Mb good lord.

I cant wait to throw a 16Gb sd card in this puppy.

mxip_initdb 16Mb

provision 2.72Mb

phcanoverbmp 1.96Mb

SnapVue 1.17Mb

msim.192 1.1Mb

GAC_System.xml_v2_0_0_0_0 .98Mb

gdiplus 987Kb

wmcore 949Kb

Gax_mscorlib 892Kb
[Shift General] cmonex:
the mxip_initdb initializes database stuff

phcan stuff is a dialer skin or similar

snapvue is snapvue

msim is for a software keyb

the GAC's (you mistyped second one) are for .net cf

i forget wmcore right now :/
[Shift General] rpawly:
Well after scrubbing i got 10 megs free again of storage

pocketweather

opera mobile (just couldnt take loading java, its like a virus no?!?!)

projection digital clock

schaps reg editor

Cant really do anymore, i guess ill add office reader, and work on things for the project.
[Shift General] Pawel062:
block title bar just blocks the title bar, in other words the top black bar's certain bit. this is part of snapvue. nothing really interesting. as i said before, best way to remove snapvue is to replace snapvue.dll with one that is modded to show the start menu then get back everything else.
[Shift General] Pawel062:
i believe shift is like other new phones where it doesnt have ext rom.
[Shift General] Pawel062:
phcanoverbmp is for images for pin pad and usually also has some dialer images and sometimes battery images. rest cmonex explained well.
[Shift General] Vs1979:
Re BlockTitleBar.exe I found that this is what also takes the Fn + Keys to control things like volume/brightness etc. When thinking this was the prog that covered the Start Menu and etc, I replaced it with winrar. When then testing for "open" key presses that may trigger something, I kept getting an application launch (It was winrar I replaced it with) with unknown command line errors.

Replaced the original file (i.e. deleted the winrar renamed to blocktitlebar.exe) and the FN + Keys were working again.
[Shift General] rosrog:
installing .cab files

Please, i also followed the info on editing the registry as described, but couldnt execute any .cab files. Did i miss anything, eg space, dot, etc from this (wceload.exe ''%''1 /nodelete)?
[Shift General] sbueschi:
i use the office 2007 cab, posted earlier, works for me. Alternative is Documents to go (not free, but good) http://www.dataviz.com/products/documentstogo/winmobile/index.html
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Remember you ve to modify the "Default" entry in "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\" path....
[Shift General] sbueschi:
no other things to do, just type very exactly as it was posted into the described line, then it should work. Dont forget to reboot then.
[Shift General] Vs1979:
Also double check your spelling. The %1 should be between the quotes, and make sure they are proper Double Quotes not two single Quotes

You've written

wceload.exe ''%''1 /nodelete

it should be

wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete
[Shift General] danielherrero:
wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete
[Shift General] killer_t:
Windows Mobile 6 + SnapVUE...
[Shift General] danielherrero:
hehe, share, share
[Shift General] sbueschi:
Come on! how did you do that?
[Shift General] killer_t:
Simply set to manual and stop SnapVue(SVT0: ) in Service tab

But in today leave the snapVUE theme...

It's pretty for me..:o
[Shift General] danielherrero:
ahhhh, yes, yes The problem is snapvue service is necesary to get 3g connectivity in vista side....:(
[Shift General] killer_t:
...wait...

I do not know how I did

I always have 3g connectivity in vista side
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Reset the vista side and tell me if you continue getting it.....It would be a nice news. In my case dont
[Shift General] killer_t:
OK...

Leave snapvue in all Today... Today element and theme!!
[Shift General] killer_t:
I always used your descriptions Daniel, and my 3g connection in vista has always been on!!

and Now are on!!

i can do a video if you want..
[Shift General] danielherrero:
NO no no I beleive you:)

I will try again...
[Shift General] killer_t:
From Fabric factory i have

- I Send me mail with fexplorer and taskmanager.

- I have add fexplorer in startup directory (with Daniel trick) and reset snapvue from vista side.

- In fexplorer start taskmanager and i have set to manual and stop SnapVue (SVT0: ) in Service tab.

- With regedit addon i go in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\ and under Value Data i have type wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete

Now i have WM6 and i can install all i want, with all SnapVUE capabilities and 3G connection in vista\wm6 side.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Maybe Its only me but doesnt work for me. This is what I do.

1) Stop Snapvue and disable it.

2) Until this point I ve 3g in both sides

2) Reboot snapvue.

3) SnapVue service isnt executed on startup so Internet Share connection probably isnt launched (for me)

3) I cant get 3g on vista side... :(
[Shift General] killer_t:
You have disable service in vista side? or upgrade vista?

I haven't upgrade vista..

In vista side, the shift comm button have all function? you can on-off the phone capabilities in vista?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
No, I ve done anything in vista side.

You ve to disable it to no execute the service again when you reset snapview. If you dont disable it then SnapVue Service will be again up when you reset snapvue....
[Shift General] killer_t:
No i don't have disable anythink in vista...

try to set manual and stop SnapVue (SVT0: ) in Service tab, don't disable it, and restart all vista service.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
But If I dont disable SnapVue service It will be up again when I reboot snapvue..... Other option is stop set it automatic and stop it each time you reset snapvue....
[Shift General] killer_t:
we have an equal device.... It would be nice if we found the problem...
[Shift General] killer_t:
No, my snapvue in vista are always on, and when i reboot wm side, nothing happens, snapvue doesn't restart!! And my 3g connection are always on.
[Shift General] rpawly:
Ok guys im up

killer give me a step by step of exactly what you want me to check. Dont leave any step out and ill follow exactly and let you know what i get.
[Shift General] killer_t:
Ok Step by step i have do this action...

From Fabric factory i haven't touch NOTHING in Vista side...

In Windows mobile side i have

- Open new mail and into add file, chose image. Here copy/paste the folder startup in my document use ctrl-c ctrl-v.

- Send to you mail with taskmgr.exe, and this annex copy into startup folder just copied.

- Copy annex taskmng.exe into my document-startup

- Now recopy this folder into windows tree (use new mail, add image ctrl-c ctrl-v....)

- Reste SnapVUE from Vista.

- After restart, taskmanager appears and set to manual and stop SnapVue (SVT0: ) in Service tab.

- With regedit addon (in taskmanager) i go in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\ and under Value Data i have type wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete.

- That all i've doing.

Reset all.

After i've wm6 capabilities and 3g connection in Vista side
[Shift General] rpawly:
Just to be sure, what to do you mean fabric factory?

I think you want me to perform a clearstorage?

If so please someone give me step by step on doing that as well

also please attach taskmgr.exe to this post

and the regedit is part of the file taskmgr?

and then you want a battery pull out to reset the snapvue side?
[Shift General] killer_t:
Yesterday i have to do a clearstarage.exe (i've put inside windows startup) because wm6 with sim at startup are frozen. i remove sim and do clearstorage.exe..

After i've do step by step i've write in post, the taskmanager i've use, are attached in my post.

REMEMBER INSERT CLEARSTORAGE.INK INTO STARTUP FOLDER.

I've install resco esplorer 2007 - taskmanager -Opera Full. if you want i link this 3 software with rapidshare ..
[Shift General] killer_t:
Inside this LINK there's Opera, Rescoexplorer and Taskmanager i've use...:)
[Shift General] rpawly:
can you please document the clearstorage part of the process, im retarded :)
[Shift General] killer_t:
Simply with rescoexplorer, copy clearstorage.exe, go in startup folder, and paste link here.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hi.

Please be caferul with the files posted. Resco Explorer is a pay program so admins can remove it...:eek:
[Shift General] killer_t:
Thank you, just correct!! :D:D
[Shift General] killer_t:
Daniel you have to do something??

Your 3g connection are on?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hi.

It works if the service is up the snapvue boots and then is stoped manually but It doesnt work (for me)if the service is disabled to not be executed after reset.---
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Hi sbueschi,

I want to use SPB Pocket Plus as well. After some time now, have you got any problems with it?

On my HTC Vario II I tried to use Quickmenu and Pocket Plus together which didn't work fine. Any problems there? Which one is more useful in Snapvue's case?

Thanks

Settembrini
[Shift General] killer_t:
why don't you set it to manual and stop it?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
hehe Yes I can but I reset the device several times per day and I will forget it most of the times. The other problem is that snapvue service replace the current theme after reset. My wish is to set my custom theme and see the start button but I should to stop snapvue service after reset and then set again my theme :(
[Shift General] sbueschi:
settembrini

i use pocket plus since approx 2 years on all my recent WM devices (Artemis, Kaiser and Pharos) and i never had an issue. I must maybe mention that i use a regular version i paid for :-) in Snapvue so far i used Quickmenu, did not install SPB, resp reinstalled it again for storage space reasons. I would not recommend to use both in parallel on the same device anyway since many functions are similar (todayscreen functions etc) and i can imagine this is confusing the system.
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
Its been a couple of days since i've contributed - i needed to go out and earn some money. looks like you guys are doing loads and getting somewhere.

All has not been quiet in the meantime.

I have 12.23 mb storage free with:

- Office Mobile 6.1

- IE 6.1

- Total Commander (for registry hacking)

AND

- RealVGA 96dpi settings - I have uninstalled the actual software as it has done its job.

Some of you guys (Daniel/rpawley) seem reluctant to disable the snapvue dll. I have had this disabled for three days now - no issues whatsoever and I have perfectly fine 3G access from Vista. Also, my Fn keys all work okay. Because I couldn't work out how to disable it, I just deleted the service from the registry.

A couple of screenshots attached. 96dpi is fantastic. At this res.you can use Excel and Word properly and reading and writing emails is a pleasure. Vista becomes redundant for the most part and so I get to work for a lot longer without access to a power supply.

rpawley, you listed a number of big files, some of which you have deleted. Which ones?

I am going to install a couple of bits of software (acrobat reader) and then hang fire till we can work out how to make use of the sd card. For me, this beautiful device is primarily a business device and so I'm not bothered about music, movies, etc. More about how I am going to finish a proposal, catch up with emails and do a bit of research on a mammoth train/plane journey.

I was using it on the train the other day, sharing a table with a couple of strangers who begged me to demonstrate the machine, which I took pleasure in doing. Believe me , they were suitably impressed (and envious) - one being a laptop toting professional, the other a blackberry user. Both saw the benefit of replacing their device with this.

Although I was engrossed in hacking the WM side during the remainder of the three hour journey, one of my fellow travellers pointed out to me that I was getting a load of envious looks from other passengers that were walking past.
[Shift General] sbueschi:
Hard reset help...

Guys

anyone discovered yet a key combination to hardreset the mobile part?

I bricked it somehow by overwriting webview.dll when i installed

internet explorer and now the mobile part has a frozen surface, meaning

taping and keyboard doesnt work at all. soft reset from vista works but once snapvue is up its frozen, i therefore cant enter anything to access clearstorage. Help much appreciated, S
[Shift General] cmonex:
it won't popup a notification if you send an sms or something? could we talk on msn (icq or yahoo works too)? just PM me with your msn address. the reason i'm asking is your device doesn't have much to lose so we can experiment to see how to hard reset it.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Tito which version of realvga did you install?

I installed a cab I found on athena forum and bricked my device. When wm booted the directory \windows\startup wasnt executed so I couldnt do the tipical trick in these cases. Of course Quickmenu stopped working so I couldnt launch file explorer or other program. Finally I had to return it to the shop and they gave me a new one.....
[Shift General] tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk:
Yep, that's the one I used. My theory is that the snapvue dll was your problem. I had already disabled mine. Remember that at 96dpi, your title bar is smaller - maybe snapvue got confused and decided to kill your baby.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
And what exactly you did to disable snapvue? Do you mean to change the today theme? stop snapvue service?
[Shift General] kornelt:
Hi all,

I am probably one of the few people in the world with an orange brnded htc shift, not that it matters, but Im willing to help out and test stuff out. Just offering my help :)
[Shift General] cmonex:
is it sim unlocked?
[Shift General] kornelt:
it wasnt, but now it is.
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
More details please - how much did Orange charge for the unit, what is the data package like, how did you get it unlocked?
[Shift General] rpawly:
Keep in mind the memory constraints we have for now. Using big front ends can really eat your storage/program memory. the shift doesnt have as much memory as a phone does.
[Shift General] rpawly:
I think i just felt something run through my body seeing the 96 dpi :))
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I felt it too when when I installed realvga. But can someone posts the safe steps to install realvga? how disable snapvue.dll?. I am not sure if the shop will accept other return in 3 days ;)
[Shift General] rpawly:
great idea cmonex :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
lol they would look at your like you have cinco cabezas :/
[Shift General] kornelt:
Hehe, sorry dont know that. Orange are not selling them yet. You see all I got was a box with an orange branded shift and an unlock code. Have connections :) I have pics over at UMPCportal.com if anyone wants to see.
[Shift General] rpawly:
tito pm waiting
[Shift General] rpawly:
Daniel,

That realvga really does make it sooooo much more usable of a device on the winmo side of things. And from my battery testing one could easily use 2-3x longer, web browsing and email and office stuff than the vista side.

I think u daniel should really dig your heels into the sd card stuff, if you have enuf knowledge. That is what we need prior to a custom rom to make the device really usuable.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Did you already installed realvga? I did it with my old HTC Universal and my athena but I want to know the safe procedure. Tito said he disabled snapvue.dll but, how did it?
[Shift General] wu5262:
My way of useing Shift

It's nice to see that the SnapVue is now hacked. Have you ever ask yourself why you want to hack SnapVue? I guess is to save battery life. I too think SnapVue with more function is great, and thank you all for your effort to make this happen. However i took a rather different approach to extend the usability of my Shift, you want to use Shift longer so you avoid using Vista and use SnapVue (WM6?) I say why not extend the battery and use Vista fully? :)

Look at my thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=374139&page=4

I now have the ability to use Shift on Vista part with max battery drain setting without putting the device to sleep what so ever for 1 whole day.

There are always ways to solve problems, i guess i am using the extreme ways. And not everyone want to carry an extra battery. This is just my personal view, i spend lots of money to buy the Shift which is an UMPC, where SnapVue is it's sub-part, i rather use its main part more often then the sub part. Just my thought, and keep up the good work SnapVue hacking team :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
nope i havent and i wont till tito gives up the informatio'n

im not mailing my baby across the ocean again, it was already traumatized by making the trip over here the first time. I got it a green card already and shes staying!!

lol at least thats what my esposa says .... shifty is my new amante now if i can just get my esposa in for a little grupo de tres or some intercambio de parejas with the shift ill be good to go!!
[Shift General] faisal.husain:
Hi WU5262,

I think we all want the best of both worlds, I would love to have tomtom and integrated GPS working on this fantastic device. The other guys on this thread thank you for getting us where we are so far...
[Shift General] rpawly:
but think about it this way, without carrying the battery you could actually use for the day, with realvga you could get some decent screen real estate. most office people on the go only need their email some web browsing and some basic word/excel editing and/or creation.

It definitely nice that vista is sitting there a button away for anything more.
[Shift General] wu5262:
That is true, omg, just come to my mind, once the SnapVue part is totally open with GPS and phone, i can use it for more then 14 days without charging it......
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
I agree with what you are saying in a way, and I have bought an extended battery.

But I bought the Shift, not because I needed yet another UMPC, but because I knew I would enjoy the hacking and flashing that would come with it.

It makes me laugh to think of all the time the HTC engineers spent trying to lock the device down, only for us to gleefully unlock it again.
[Shift General] rpawly:
i dont know about the 14 days thing

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=376748
[Shift General] danielherrero:
hehe, ok. I see you learnt the most useful spanish expressions :). I am doing a big effort to not disable snapvue service and install realvga. Grrrrr but I will be a good baby and will wait to a safe procedure.....:)
[Shift General] rpawly:
im patiently waiting :)

tito ............ im tapping my foot on the floor ......... being patient :)
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Talking about batteries. I ve two external battery. One of 20000 mA and other 5000 mA. I was surprised because both have similar size, they are small, so I use the 20000 mA. Althought I carry it in my little samsonite bag and Vista is much more powerfull, I love the fresh speed of WM. Grouping RealVGA, Opera mini (It already works in realvga), office and access to sd to install more programs and navigators will make winmo side perfect to perform common tasks. And of course Vista is there for working hard with strong tasks....
[Shift General] wu5262:
lol...didn't come across this,

SlingPlayer Mobile 4 hours (3g) (POutlook: 4 IMAP accounts Check Frequency 2 Mins)?

I can do exactly the same thing in Vista for about 2 hours.

um....interesting, so the Windows Mobile part doesn't seems to save that much battery after all. Still, everyday usage is good enough.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I pray to have the same patient...My doughter (see my avatar) is watching at me saying....."Dad dont do it....dont be a bad boy"....
[Shift General] rpawly:
i think if i lowered the screen brightness to half it would of helped out alot, as you can see the mp3 test, had the screen switched over to the vista processor which was shut down and it got 11 hours of running straight.

So i think those number will go up at least 25% with a resonable lcd brightness settings and add to that if your only using pop3 email access at like 30 mins or something then that adds alot more, all my tests had 4 IMAP "PULL" accounts checking in 2 mins intervals. (synching alot of folders)
[Shift General] wu5262:
I agree, i love the speed in WM, and i can't wait the day we have voice and GPS inside this, my personal wish is to have WM using whole screen instead of what it is right now, it will make GPS looks amazing :)

btw when talking about battery, it's always better to measure it in Watt Hours, the one i have has is 171WH, the 20000mAh one is 74WH, and the 5000mAh one is 56WH, so you see, the 20000 one shouldn't be much bigger since it's capacity isn't much different.
[Shift General] wu5262:
ya, i guess LCD brightness is the killer of battery.....
[Shift General] rpawly:
I bet you will see that in the next 5 days, if not sooner, a little bird told me :) well the screen part anyway :)
[Shift General] sbueschi:
yes thanks, but didn't work with the notification, once teh screen did freeze (max 10 seconds after boot..) not even notifcations pop up anymore. I bootet about 10 times until i managed to enter via explorer/windows/into clearstorage.exe including entering 1234 in less than 10 seconds :rolleyes:

so i start from scratch but am back from brickdom.

Thanks for your care
[Shift General] rpawly:
cmonex??

hard key sequence during boot for clearstorage??
[Shift General] sbueschi:
the tip about clearstorage in startup is clever until someone discovers such key sequence, i will also place a shortcut on the todayscreen...