yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elvini:
Hello, yesterday i flash my 4700 with HP iPAQ PPC WM6.1 Rom build 20769.1.4.5 RC2.2 from http://wm6.winmobile.us/hpmain.htm

After i flash, i cannot access ipaq file store again..

my 4700 only detect sd card. no ipaq file store anymore.

how can i resolve this?

tq
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
"ipaq file store" is something from wm 2003 i think. wm5, 6, 6.1, is different and doesn't have that.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
Anybody flash with an sd card? My cradle/sync cable is unavailable.

I've tried:

sd_img.exe os.nb0 os.raw

then

ntrw.exe write os.raw f:

I put in card, got to bootloader mode, pressed power and ...nothing.?? It doesn't show any progress, just stays on "serial" screen. :confused:

SD card is 2GB. too big? tried with 300mb partition on card, still no joy.

:confused::confused::confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elvini:
i think "something" that wm2003 called ipaq file store is memory 128 MB ROM (Up to 80 MB in the iPAQ File Store).

And i'm sure, that wm6 still have it..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
wm5 uses persistent storage. wm2003 did not. you will loose some memory if you changed from 2003. but with other advantages.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] uzi74:
I'm using the PDAviet rom and using this fix http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9298 I got WPA working
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] frblckstr1:
^ According to that thread the driver/chipset is not capable of doing WPA2-PSK-AES
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpetro:
hello from Greece! : Today I flashed Alkor wm6.1 build 20769.1.4.5 on Hx4700 .ASK :

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Very quick!

1.DONT support SDHC ! Dont "see" more than 2GB SD

2.I dont like the BLANK WM6.1 welcome page.

Please any solution ?

Many thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpetro:
Look my comments ! And HELP me!

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Very quick!

1.DONT support SDHC ! Dont "see" more than 2GB SD

2.I dont like the BLANK WM6.1 welcome page.

Please any solution ?

Many thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
4700 can NOT do SDHC. the hardware can not support it. many have tried but it just wont work do a search for previous failures...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Geminidad:
HX4700 up and running

Downloaded the latest Alkor build from dpdurst's site, its working like a charm.

Acquired TomTom6, installed that, same thing.

Thanks everyone for the support and recommendations. :)

Am left with my foldable keyboard being seen only briefly but when I move to e.g. Word it does not respond. I have not yet checked the forums and will do so in a minute but if anyone has an idea what may be up, I'd welcome your input.

regs

Geminidad
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
try newer drivers... is it BT or direct connect?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
Battery

Hi I need to replace my ipaq's battery and I remember reading somewhere that the new Ipaq 210 battery fits.

Can anyone confirm this? this is the battery FB036AA

and HP's link http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF06c/A1-329290-329223-329260-329260-3551521-3551524.html

its 2200 so i'd really like to get it if it works.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tgk20:
new Alkor rom

hi guys just wanted to update Alkor ROM 21054 is up and here is a link

a new link

http://www.mediafire.com/?okrzzmntomi
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
limit reached on this rapidshare.... where else can i get it?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pedra125:
(sorry my english)

hello

when a new version for hx4700?

What is the best version?

thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tasirith:
Thanks for the link TGK but the ROM file within the zip does not expand properly, comes up with a file error on extraction.

Anyone else have this problem ? Or does anyone else have a copy they can post the link for ?

thanks

Tas
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
im looking for it too, found out about it here and it seems dpdurst will post the rom on his site soon. link to his site from this link or from first post in this thread.

ALKOR ROM THREAD

EDIT:- not there yet... LINK to site
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tasirith:
Just managed to wade my way through the 4PDA russian site (with the help of Google Translate) and managed to download it from there.

Haven't installed it yet though as i need a reaplcement battery first before i go any further :(

Tas
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tasirith:
Alkor Rom 21054 - http://rapidshare.com/files/331676459/ENG_Standart.7z.html

Haven't tested it yet guys because my main battery has collapsed and waiting for a new one to arrive.

Let me know if you can't get access to the file for some reason

tas
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Dickster:
Links works excellent. Flashing my device at this moment. Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
Alkor ROM buld 21054 is now posted on my site for downloads
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ddetty:
Alkor ROM 21054

Thanks dpdurst for the link for the new ROM. Installed just fine and having the tool for setting the pagepool size is pretty convenient. I'm still trying to understand the best setting for pagepool size. I installed with pagepool set to 0. That might be creating an issue with trying to install Calligrapher 8.7. Calligrapher reports installing fine but won't run. Only the default input methods are available. Anyone else having similar problems.

Dave

hx4700 128M Alkor 21054
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Dickster:
Why set the pagepool so low. If I understand correct you have updated your device to 128 RAM.

I did not verify, but I thought elsewhere in this topic 4MB was recommended for 64MB devices and 8MB for 128MBdevices.

I would try the 8MB pagepool as I guess free ram is not the issue with a 128MB device.

Though i do not have a solution for your problem with Calligrapher 8.7.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ddetty:
Pagepool was set to zero to test the so-called dynamic pagepool and hopefully mitigate the filesys.exe slowdown. I don't see any difference in speed with 0, 8, or even 16MB. I'm still testing to see if the filesys impact is reduced.

Also, changing the pagepool size did not help my Calligrapher problem. Installation reports install was ok, but it doesn't work.

Dave

HP 4700 128MB: 1GSD, 2GCF Alkor 21054.1.1.1

Ilium eWallet, ListPro and Power Tap; Olive Tree Bible Reader, Pocket Informant; Pocket Quicken; Opera 10; Calc98; eReader
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] coruscate:
TKIP problems, used old work around

Had WPA TKIP problems, followed this old workaround:

Enable WIFI.

Wait For WIFI To Start The Connection Process.

Disable WIFI.

Enable Wifi Again.

Now My Wireless Connects And Works.

coruscate
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DavidinCT:
Does anyone still have access to the WM 6.5 rom for the HX4700 ? Is anyone running it or is there a updated version ? I really want to be running 6.5 on this awsome PDA...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Aviamaster:
After installing Alkor ROM build 21054 my WiFi not working properly. For few seconds I've got a avaliable my WiFi network with strong signal and then these network is unavailable.

I removed WiFi profile, and reset device, e.t.c...and nothing.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tasirith:
I actually appleid the old wifi patch and it works now
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fonville:
Loaded several ROMs on my hx4700 on Monday. Settled on the Alkor 21054 ROM. It is noticeably faster and I haven't hit a single issue with it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
Hello

I had the same problem with my WIFI network once the IPAQ updated with the new ROM Alkor 21054.

I have a WIFI network to WEP 128bit and I worked I had to use the patch from "lygeros" published in:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=485486&page=5

post 46 (Wifi_fix.zip)

There are two files to import into the registry of the IPAQ.

I hope you too will work.

A greeting.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] coruscate:
WPA PSK TKIP not working

I need a better solution to my WPA PSK access problems.

My workaround to turn off and then turn on is no longer working

Lyger's reg files didn't help.

I remember someone having a DLL patch work.

I thought I remembered Sanjay's ROM working with WPA PSK (1)

I have tried searching the thread, but it doesn't return entries even with words I know exist.

Any suggestions on getting the new Alkor 6.5 rom to work with WPA PSK would be greatly appreciated :)

Also, PDA Viet splash screen shows on startup before the Alkor splash, so I'll attempt going back to OEM WM 5 and then back to Alkor.

Cheers!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
Then I leave the program developed by Vagus rede wireless to connect to WPA-PSK.

I have not been tested since I do not have this type of wireless networks.

I hope that you find helpful.

A greeting.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ridolfo:
The Vagus WPA-PSK fix worked for me on the latest Alkor ROM (without it, it couldn't connect).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Aviamaster:
This fix resovle my problem :-)

Thanks a lot.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Tondo1:
Unable to upgrade the ROM

I have upgraded the HX4700 ROM several time in the past with a Windows XP PC.

Now I have a Windows 7 64bit machine and, after the launch of the BootLoader_GUI.exe and the selection of the new 21054 Alkor ROM, every time I receive the following error message:

\\.\WCEUSBSH001 port can not open

and the process stops.

Can someone kindly help me?

Thank you in advance!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
Off to PPCTechs!!!!!

I installed the New Alkor rom and it's NICE!! I've been battleing with the idea of upgrading the ram for a while and I'm getting it done. It shipped today. Can't wait to get it back, slap on SPB shell 3.5, Igo, running voice gsm (I gotta Audiovox rtm-8000), and it all run be running fast with ram left to spare!!

Hey.... any cookers out there runing 128mb that could bring us a WM6.5 for the 4700!!!

Cheers!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ryahp:
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I thought the new Alkor rom is 6.1, or did you just misspell here?

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hx4700 64mb - Alkor 21054
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] www26:
Thanks for this fix! Now my pda works like a charm with WPA PSK TKIP.

Cheers!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Vervol:
Some screens of 6.5 on 4700 http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=70688&view=findpost&p=3908657 ;)

And if someone wanna see it on device i post link for "Alpha" on "Test versions" (Тестовые версии)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
Hello Alkor.

Very. very, very interesting this contribution in the ROM's for the hx4700.

I thought nobody could not "cooking" a WM6.5 ROM.:eek::D

A few questions.

"I see that the ROM is in Russian. For when the English version.:(

"The ROM is for IPAQ's with 128 or 64 Mb:confused:

A greeting.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
You seem to know what you are writing about which is clearly more than me. :)

I'll things another go and see if that works.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bulesz:
Wm6.1 + Sdhc

Supporting SDHC is hardware or software (WM6.1) issue on HX4700?

and.. how could I know about a card that SD or SDHC? (winxp doeasnt recognize, but with its own usb reader its working correctly!) ???

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello Da_G,

PDAVIET posted his rom in two parts. The first is available from http://pdavnsoftware.com/Mobifuns/ROM/HP4700. Enter "PDAVIET" (in caps), and then "pdaviet" (in lower case) as password to access the site. In it, you will see three files. The WM6.1 indicates 2.61.19199. However, I'm sure that this is a collection from different sources, but since I don't speak Vietnamese, I cannot ask. Since you were able to port from scratch, I would trust yours to be fully identified as the real deal.

I look forward to your rom!

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Grayme,

A number of things could have gone wrong. So some questions.

1. What did you modify in the dump folder (you cannot delete the system dll folders without risk).

2. You can remove the programs (PPT, etc.).

3. Did you change the initflashfiles.dat file? If you modify that, you need to remove the first two bytes with a hexeditor such as XV132.

On another note, I agree, Da_G seems to be our best hope for future roms. He seems to be fully knowledgeable about ROM architecture so let's see what he comes up with.

Go Da_G!

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
I think it has to be down to that initflashfiles.dat. :mad:

Maybe if you don't put it back to read only? :o

Plus, I have changed it, so what is this about removing the first two bytes?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Ah:

5. Modifiy initflashfiles.dat (which I've attached). After modifying the file I open it in
a hex editor and remove the first two bytes - making the first byte 3B (";"). I save it
and mark it as read-only.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=269288
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
It was that initflashfiles.dat needing the first two bites removing! :D

Already said goodbye to Powerpoint, Solitare and Bubble Breaker :cool:

Now, what else can go to make way for some useful items... I just need to work out how to do that! ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Excellent! Glad you were successful. I'd be careful to not remove any of the folders that are system related. I tried and got a very unhappy 4700. But things like PPT, the games etc are good candidates to remove. You can also remove the TSK files for any "themes" you don't want to keep. Sound files you don't want can also be safely removed if you really need the space.

Good luck.

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
Your post raises a question (at least for someone who is in that obscure zone of thinking he knows something, but not knowing **** actually). Is there a point in making a ROM "leaner" just fot the sake of it? I mean, unless we want to use the freed space to introduce other programs, is there a benefit in having a leaner ROM?

Thanks for your help
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
Less clutter in the filesystem and registry hive(s) means a more optimized OS, as far as speed goes. But nothing terribly noticable, generally.

The latest releases of imgfstools supports "bigstorage mode" which allows you to reclaim the unused space as user-accessible storage. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=298327 - I have not personally tried it with the hx4700 ROM yet (although I intend to shortly) - it works great on my 8925, not so much on my i607 (bigstorage results in no-boot, uses disk on chip storage so no benefit at this point anyway)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
One other thing we found on the universal was that when you got to a point, if you removed anything else there was no increase in available memory to the device. Though in the case of the hx4700, they all seem pretty full so that probably won't be observed here?

However, if you never use something, why not remove it as personally I'd rather have it 'cleaner'.

I am looking forwards to what Da_G is producing. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
Speaking from that same obscure zone... isn't it better to have as lean a rom as possible so as to keep compaction from running less often? Leaner rom = more persistent storage space?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
If bigstorage does work, and you get more storage space as a result of a leaner ROM, then yes, it follows that compaction would need to run less often as a result. However it also depends on the coding of the compaction algorithm (does it take free space into account, and not compact until necessary, or does it mark things for compaction in a queue as soon as the blocks are written?)

Assuming bigstorage does work, it would be a simple test. Create a lean ROM, one with bigstorage and one without, and run a controlled series of tests on each, noting when compaction kicks in.. if bigstorage makes the difference compaction should take alot longer to kick in.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hi Pepeluu,

This is a matter of personal preference or need I suppose. The net increase in the amount of space you will gain beyond the clean version of roms out is not great, but if bytes matter then some users may be able to safely remove these. Bottom line is - this is not difficult to do so people should feel free to experiment and tailor stock roms to suit their needs. This is how we all learn.

Besides, it's fun to play!:) And remember, if it doesn't work, you can always reload a rom that does.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
:) Well said Sanjay...

Keep testing all.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
File library?

Does anyone know of a resource of what all the files are for?

As in, 'these are the files that go into Pocket Excel', and conversely 'tshres.dell.0409.dll is used by...'

If not, should we make one (maybe in the wiki)?

It would help us all play with the tools to make our own customised ROMs, knowing we have removed everything we don't need for a certain program.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hellogadgetman:
Mates I think you should point this thread more and more to the other (kozhura) thread so as to have more people working for it.

Keep up the good work...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
grayme, use the package tool stickied in the development forum to break the ROM up from one large folder into packages - for system things like pocket excel (part of office) it will be in the folder SYS\Office*

Typically the OEM does not bother splitting its added things into nice, neat packages, so further work is required there isolating the registry entries from the .rgu, typically they are in one 'blob' and not spread out within the.rgu though, so that makes it a little easier. I find that it also helps to sort the files in the OEM\ folders by date/time, you will typically find that related files are bunched together as they are processed in that order when the OEM creates the ROM. Note that this only applies to original OEM supplied ROM's, once they have been cooked the .dsm and .rgu files may have been removed (depending on the cooker) and then you cannot split into packages or process the registry the typical way (you have to use a tool like CeRegEditor to compare .hv's, for example) - also once cooked the date/time on each file will reflect the time the build was assembled by the cook, not the original date/time of the files, so sorting OEM\* by date/time will not be beneficial (as it is processed alphabetically by BuildOS)

BuildOS does the reverse of packagetool, and merges the .rgu's into default.hv and user.hv.

Ervius has merged these 2 programs into one BuildOS+Packagetool, and that's what I currently use to do my cooking, works great. Although I don't use many of the advanced features (i like doing things by hand)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
OK, I believe I have completed porting on the XIP to 19199 ver,

Changes as follows -

Registry:

* Removed superfluous drivers from loading in XIP stage (XIP should be bare-bones, only sufficient to support the filesystem main imgfs is on, where full driver support should be loaded) - HP and all cooked ROM's I checked up to this point loaded in drivers for wifi, bluetooth, dockware (?!), sd card, touch screen, usb hid, display, LED's, pretty much everything.

* Added initvmmap.exe and device.exe settings for improved memory management

* Implemented Cachefilt.dll (the filesystem filter had been ported to XIP, but registry not modified from WM5 to actually load it)

* Removed references to fsdspy.dll

Modules Updated:

* ceddk.dll

* certmod.dll

* coredll.dll

* devmgr.dll

* fatfsd.dll

* filesys.exe

* fsdmgr.dll

* imgfs.dll

* initvmmap.exe <-- new

* fsdspy.dll <-- removed

Interestingly the CE OS version in about appears to have gone down with the coredll.dll change, but I triple checked to verify that it is in fact newer.

No changes have been made to the imgfs, all changes are in XIP. After a few days testing of the new XIP to verify stability etc. I will work further on imgfs (it's pretty well to my liking as is :) )

Anyway, here is the link: http://rapidshare.com/files/97699882/nk.rar.html
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
Fantastic job! I am still a bit confused as to the 19199 vs 19716 build. Can someone explain?

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DavidinCT:
Interesting indeed.....English version wanted here too !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gsp_pda:
Hi,

I had the same problem but then after a bit of searching I found out the solution.

You need to reboot Win7 while holding down F8. Select "disable driver signing".

Now run the self extracting exe so that it extracts the folder and exit.

Change the properties of the Bootloader.exe contained inside to:

Compatibility mode, Vista SP2

and run as administrator.

No run the bootloader.exe and allow it to install the drivers, and flash away.

Occasionally it doesn't start flashing (happens on XP too), but just quit the bootloader (make sure it doesn't have any running processes left behind).

Reset the hx4700 and re-enter bootloader mode and try again.

Looking in your device manager you should see a mobile device (before you disabled driver signing it would have had a ! by it)

The nice thing is that when you reboot your PC, the driver signing is re-enabled so these legacy drivers can never interfere with the ones used by Windows Mobile Device Centre for syncing.

Cheers,

G.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jeffoz1:
Hi, sorry if this has already been covered but my search facility does not seem to work properly and this is a very long thread

I have my IPAQ 4700 working great on Sanjays v6.1 rom. Can't believe the longevity that I have had on this great unit thank to all the great minds that have been working on these roms. I recently installed TT7 and had it all going except no sound. I also now have no sound on any other applications. The sound slider on the Today screen does not stick when you increase the volume. I have uninstalled TT7 and I still have no sound. Did the installation remove or overwrite windows vital files for sound. Dont want to reinstal the rom unless i have to. Any help to resolve would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Jeff
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
Hi Jeff,

Go to your windows directory, select "show all files" and search for btcoreif.dll, rename it as btcoreif.old and softreset your device.

This should resolve your problem. ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jeffoz1:
Sound is back. Comtech you're a legend. Thanks for responding so quick. I thought i was going to get nuked. I have not re-installed tt7 yet but hopefully all will be cool now.

cheers mate
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
Should I upgrade?

Hi all,

Thanks to this thread to keep my beloved HX4700 upto the latest.

I'm running Algasystem ROM right now and pretty much satified exept for Internet Explorer that use almost all CPU available after couple pages browsing.

I tried previous Alkor 2.2 ROM and found it prone to lock and was draining my battery quicker.

I would like to know from you guys that tried the lastest from Alkor 21054, how it goes, likes and dislikes. I understand I need to apply the WIFI patch. It is also recommed for 64M Ram?

Thanks to all

Charles

HX4700
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ryahp:
Tried the Russian Windows Mobile(r) 6.5 Classic 28205.5.3.3... Seems like there is still a lot of work to be done. BT, Input Panel, Power Settings, are not working, doesn't properly come back from sleep... just to mention a few things. Maybe it works better on a 128MB device (mine is 64MB and I only had about 12MB free with no Programs running.)

For now I go back to the latest English version not only because of my non-existent Russian knowledge.