yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
You're on the latest!

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] diver5007:
hi wtianxin,

My solution , hope it the same for you.

I also had problem flashing the new ROM many times with my PC.

Next I change to another PC but also had the same problem.

For my case, the flashing problem stopped at the first line "password" at the letter "p" and under Task Manager, the "multi_port/usb TTY " stop responding.

Next I took my hx4700 out of the cradle,

clean the connection contacts ,

resit it carefully, with some light weights on top of the HX4700.

Then I flashed the Alkor_ B2_Ramsses_Kohura_v1g.nb0 (not Alkor****.nbf)

I have tried this method twice successfully.

This is also to say that either my cradle or my HX4700 has some very bad contact problems.

regards

Richard

(PS : I work as an electronics service engineer. )
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] delvig:
Hello,

I am a french user of HX4700 (actually ROM Windows CE 2003SE). I bought last year WM5, mais I didn't install it. Can I install directly ROM 6.1 ?

Where may I find the latest version 6.1 (french if possible) ? And last question : how to install it, please ?

I have read lot of pages in this forum, but it's very difficult for me to understand what has been written. So, excuse me for my bad english.

Thank you very much for your help.

Patrice
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] diver5007:
Hi Patrice ,

Yes , you can upgrade from wm2003se to wm6.1.

go to this site and download the Bootloader program from Chris (many thanks)

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net

the instructions to use this program is also included inside.

next goto page 1 of this thread for the WM6.1 ROM.

I would recommend you to use the SL61V3 ROM first. I am still using this.

the latest wm6.1 is from Ramsses (many thanks)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=398762&page=42

As for french, sorry.

cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] delvig:
Thank you very much for your help and for the speed to answer !!!

Just 2 questions, please :

* are those Rom French or English only ?

* why do you recommend me to use the SL61V3 ROM first ?

Many, many thanks again to you, Richard
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ramsses:
I WILL BE AWAY FOR THE NEXT WEEK - no support for a while!

Andy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spetrie:
I created a file called phone.dll with notepad and just inserted a 0 in it. I then saved this to the windows folder on my HX4700. TTN7 plus services then available
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zeshrek:
Hi all. Sorry for non french people, but as i'm french too.... i'll answer in french to his question.

Salut Pat'

1/ Les ROM sont en Anglais. Probablement parceque ceux qui les ont réalisés sont majoritairement de langue anglaise, ou bien qu'ils souhaitent lui trouver la plus large audience possible. Je pense qu'on ne doit pas être plus d'une douzaine de francophones sur le forum, contre je ne sais combien d'anglophones.

2/ En ce qui concerne le pourquoi la SL61V3, c'est que c'est probablement celle qui te posera le moins de problèmes. Il faut savoir que certains ont augmenté la mémoire de leur HX700 a 128Mo (contre 64 d'origine), et que les images de ROM réalisées pour des modeles 128 ne passent pas sur les 64.

Celle qu'il t'indique est celle avec laquelle tu auras (probablement) le moins de pb.

Si tu as besoin d'aide, n'hésite pas a me mailer. Je suis encore débutant sur le sujet, mais depuis une semaine que je m'amuse a flasher la rom de mon 4700, je commence a piger le systeme
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
Where is Pocket MSN

Does any one know how to put Pocket MSN back on my today screen? I am running the latest 6.1 ROM kozhura mod by ramsses.

Thanks a bunch

Sunday
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Flyer1969:
I'm not french, but this video was the first I saw and started me to search for infos about my HX4700: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cltN7fhxks

Regards

Flyer
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zeshrek:
I used to have the same problem, and finally, the only solution i found was to use Palringo instead of MSN Messenger.

You can find it here : http://www.palringo.com

* It's FREE

* Compatible MSN, ICQ, AIM, iChat, Yahoo, Gtalk, Gadu-gadu (?) and Jabber (?)

So bye bye pocket MSN...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
Hi

Have not posted or been here for a few weeks running the 1f version I think the one just after Kozhura got all uptight about you using his rom.

Will the Cab make the registery difference or must I make em manually? does it work?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
I've gone back to the SL61V3 ROM as the latest ROMs by both PhamQuang and Kohzura are just not working right:

With Wisbar Advance 3, they failed to hide the bottom bar on the today screen.

With Resco Explorer, the todayscreen plugin failed to show.

In messaging, it failed to delete the emails from the server when they were deleted on the device.

Battery performance seems better (just a feeling).

I've seen quite a few others are using this ROM too, maybe this would be better to use as a base Andy?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
SD / SDHC to CF Adapters

This topic was discussed some time ago ... but now is a good time to re-visit.

Originally skeptical about the merits of this adapter ... I now see a promising use. My digi-cams can use SDHC cards ... and I have now several 8GB cards for taking stills and video clips. Such an adapter would enable me to view my files on my hx4705's VGA 16 bit monitor.

What is your experience, which adapter have you tried and what has been your experience? For me, cost is secondary consideration.

Frank K-F
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
this isnt the place for this question but they work quite well. i have the older sd to CF and had no problems with it.if you go to www.mobilitysite.com (old aximsite and ipaqHQ combined) check the forums in the storage card section there is a discussion of them there. in short SDHC to CF works.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
SD / SDHC to CF Adapters

Spud42, I appreciate your pointer to 'mobilitysite', however I haven't found there what I am looking for. And your comment about this topic here suggests that you haven't been here very long.

I do know that these adapters work ... the question is how well in the context of the hx4705 ... e.g. video clips on SDHC ... viewed on the hx4705 via the CF adapter. Such clips are minimum VGA 24bit with sound, to 720p and 1080i.

From time to time I loaded onto my 16GB SanDisk CF-III card several DivX movies at max quality ... that play w/o skips or pauses .. at the various formats cited above (e.g. PATTON, a file at over 1GB in DivX plays wonderfully in a 16:9 PICTURE BOX). Thus my goal is the achieve a similar level of viewing experience with my own videos ... not just file transfer.

Such personal viewing is my only chance to see old movies while on travel status. Otherwise my hx4705 is primarily a business tool.

Frank K-F
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ipaquser07:
4700 battery case micro switch problems

Hi all,

I too love the ipaq 4700, loaded all the upgrades etc. However, one day when I had to perform a hardware reset (as sometimes happens) I discovered that one of the screws holding the cover in place had disappeared and instead of pushing the reset button, had pushed the stylus into the case! Yikes. It seems that the small micro switch that is controlled by the battery cover is now locked in the off position and stuck. Applying gentle force to the switch fails to return it to the normal position.

Does any one out there know how to:

a) bypass the switch, or

b) if it can be returned to its normal position without breaking it.

And before you ask - the device is way out of warranty.

Thanks in advance for any ideas that may help!

Cheers,

Chris
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elparra72:
Can anyone send me the WM5 Spanish ROM?

Hello, I'd like to make some test with Spanish language and I need the original HP WM5 Spanish ROM for hx4700. Can anyone send me a link to download it?. Thanks a lot!!!

El Parra
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
hp have the sp wm5 in their page , if you dont find , send me PM

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
The file is , SPA-hx4700_ 2.01.14.exe , its about 133mg, its the last upgrade from hp for wm5 spanish . the link is not anymore in hp .

this is the readme .txt from the version . sorry but I only copy the origial TXT as is in SPANISH I know that this forum its only english but this its the original doc

PM

Notas de versión de la Utilidad de actualización de memoria ROM

de su HP iPAQ Pocket PC línea hx4700.

18.03.05

___________________________________________________________________

Lea la siguiente información importante relativa a la actualización

de la memoria ROM de su HP iPAQ Pocket PC.

Esta es una actualización de ROM que contiene reparaciones para

componentes de software en la ROM. Controle la sección de Soporte y

controladores del sitio Web de HP para futuras actualizaciones de

ROM y software para este producto.

___________________________________________________________________

C O N T E N I D O

1. Requisitos del sistema

2. Información importante acerca de la Utilidad de Actualización

de ROM v2.02.014 de HP

3. Problemas conocidos y alternativas

___________________________________________________________________

***************************

1. REQUISITOS DEL SISTEMA:

***************************

* Un PC anfitrión con Microsoft Windows 2000 o Windows XP.

* Microsoft ActiveSync v4.1 o una versión posterior instalada

en el PC anfitrión. La última versión de Microsoft ActiveSync se

encuentra disponible para descarga en el sitio Web de Microsoft.

* Su HP iPAQ Pocket PC

* Una conexión USB directa entre el PC anfitrión y su HP iPAQ

Pocket PC.

******************************************************************

2. INFORMACIÓN IMPORTANTE ACERCA DE LA UTILIDAD DE ACTUALIZACIÓN

DE ROM v2.02.014 DE HP

******************************************************************

***PRECAUCIÓN***

Esta actualización está diseñada para borrar y sustituir la

imagen actual de la ROM y toda asociación ActiveSync existente,

incluyendo todos los archivos de datos y los programas del

usuario instalados en su iPAQ Pocket PC y en el iPAQ File Store.

HP recomienda que los usuarios realicen una copia de seguridad

de sus datos personales utilizando Microsoft ActiveSync o iPAQ

Backup antes de proceder a la actualización de ROM. Esta es sólo

una medida precautoria y no debe ser utilizada después de la

actualización de ROM.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] treynolds:
I Can't Believe I've Read the Whole Thing...

This has been a fascinating thread and I've learned a lot; not sure yet if I want to update my 4700 to 6.0 or 6.1 yet though, or which ROM to use...

I do have a couple of questions:

Would WM 2003SE be considered the WinXP of the PocketPC world and 6.0 or 6.1 Vista?

The reason I ask is that our corporation is still using XP because of the problems with Vista. From my reading of this thread, it appears that for the non-power user, non-programmer, I *may* be better off sticking with 2003SE instead of messing with 6.0 or 6.1?

What I see here is a lot of wonderful work by very dedicated people, but the work is based on smartphone ports of WM, not PDA implementations. This seems to be the reason for some of the driver/software incompatibility issues?

I really don't want to have to tweak an update to get it right. It would be nice to have a build that was as close to "stock" on a iPAQ 210, without violating copyright issues. Is that possible?

There are some items in ROM that HP includes with the 4700 that I would personally like to retain, but it seems that many of the ROM builds omit these.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Tony
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
it is irrelevant how long i may or may not have been here. this thread is about the roms and furthering them. NOT about CF to SDHC converters!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
MY Friend only one thing , OS from HP 210 WM6 its very close to WM6.1 but slow, today you have a very stable and fastest new roms 6.1 .Im use my hx 4700 with new 6.1 rom with excelent performance Im really very happy all works fine. the worst rom that I used was HP WM5 .Now I have a "new" machine fast and stable , belive me you can upgrade to WM6.1 its other world.I dont know what items you can retain ??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] treynolds:
Which 6.1 ROM build are you using?

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
I have installed Algasys V1710 , I use all that I want i dont have any trouble , you must know that PIE (internet explorer) don t work with 6,1 any versions , but who want PIE ?, you can install very usefull and more powered browsers Net Front, Opera MINI or Opera 9,5 . In ORIGINAL HP 6.0 PIE dont work properly too ....in 6.1 have office , outlook or t mail , the original navpoint ,the original vga keyboard , all set of BT tools and wi fi, you have all that you need , all soft works NO MORE filesys times , its flash over all soft . Tell me what you need and I will try to explain more for you .....

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pegaz:
Message problem

Hi I used Alkor_B2_Ramsses_Kozhura_v1g it's was guite good not much issues until I found the one with messages after i set up email settings i can not create new email just taping NEW and nothing happens. Is there any chance to fix it ? I liked also the HP wallpaper which is gone in different roms...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pegaz:
Hi Andy, is there any chance to get from you HP theme(default one) form 1g rom? Thanks in advance
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hi

Its a know issue , try to make a hard reset , I have experienced this problemm, As I know when you install new soft this happends , I dont remember ,first make a clean instalation , then configure your accounts , then install other soft , probably you dont have anymore this trouble .I think isnt the rom ..if this not solve install Flex mail , the original t mail delete mail in screen every time you download new one , and this isnt a rom issue ........you can read in mail help......
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kounkhmer2269:
Youtube

Hello, everyone!

Can anyone kindly recommend or suggest a compatible program that would enable me to view youtube running my hx4700 (with 2003 SE)? Yes, I'm still running 2003 SE.

Thank you in advance for you help.

Anthony
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] treynolds:
Finally Did It...

Ending up with a non-functioning backup battery in my Hx4700 forced my hand to install the WM6.1 Classic update over WM2003SE. Battery status for the backup battery showed at 100%, but changing the main battery for the spare would cause a hard-reset. I couldn't find a replacement for the battery, so I cleaned it with vinegar and reinstalled it so that the electrical continuity through that part of the system board would still be the same.

I had some hic-ups however...

I tried to install Kozhura's latest update via Chris' bootloader, but it would just get stuck and showed no signs that it was proceeding. I then made sure that the cradle was connected to a USB port on the system box, rather than through the monitor, which functions as a hub. I also checked the box that told the Hx to charge via USB (even though my battery was 100%).

I then used a utility to unzip the RAR file to a folder. That worked, but then it hung on the black Windows screen and wouldn't proceed. I was finally able to get a green welcome screen by using Andy's latest build:

Alkor_B2_Ramsses_Kozhura_v1g.rar

That now works okay. I ended up doing a SOFT RESET after the install instead of a HARD RESET, which brought up the welcome screen and then did the setup and sync with Active Sync 4.5.

All seems well, with the exception that I turned WiFi on, it found our network no problem and surfed to brighthand.com. After leaving IE, the WiFi icon in the lower part of the screen disappeared. A soft reset brought it back.

So far I'm liking this.

I assume that to rebuild my app install, I simply load apps into the main memory, as there is no memory partition, correct?

I noticed that the HP Image Imagezone slide show hangs when referencing images from the SD card and that only the Task Manager would stop it.

I assume that the unit is displaying True VGA (or something close to it)?

Thanks everyone for all the hard work. I figure that since the original WM5.0 update from HP would have cost me about $45 shipped, I'll split that equally between Kozhura, Andy and Chris. Thanks everyone!

Tony
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chrismrulz:
ahh, there's been issues with people flashing using USB hubs, just needed confirmation that it was actually a problem.

i'll add it to the bootloader descriptions when i get the time.

btw, no need to unrar or anything, the bootloader does that.

there's also a post in the original brighthand threads about the bootloader being detected as a virus (false alarm though, just todo with controlling apps and installing modded drivers unconventionally).

glad to see you got it working.

on another note, does anyone know the differences between all the hx4700 roms? (mainly performance / functionality)

been using SL61V3. it's a bit confusing about what the Alkor_B2_Ramsses_Kozhura_v1g rom is..

is it the alkor one that uses stuff from the new iPAQ 201? others link to names like it labelled as ramsees' rom.

is it a combination of the best of the latest roms? who made it? (so i know when his latest of it is out)

kozhura's has .NET CF 3.5 so it must be pretty recent. which other ones have .NET 3.5?

it'd be good if someone that's been keeping up to date could do a roundup of all these. where's menneisys these days :P

some of the links on the first post have had newer versions come out i think.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] treynolds:
Chris,

I could not get kozhura's latest to get past the initial screen.

Ramsses = Andy

As for a listing of what ROM includes what, that would be nice.

The one I loaded (mentioned above), is WM6.1 "Classic".

WM2003SE had a 'memory' icon right on the Today Screen that one could use to access the system to close rogue apps. I thought 6.0 and 6.1 included a pull-down button/menu in the upper right corner of the screen to close apps, but this build at least, does not. I have mapped the Task Manager to my 'record' button, at least for the time being, so that I can close apps that I no longer need open...

Tony
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chrismrulz:
All hx4700 WM6+ roms are classic, that's all it'll run (it'd be cool if someone would do a mobile one though, i have a cf card that makes mine a phone).

You can find pocket pc apps that will allow you to do more with what you could than in 2003SE in that area. (some will let you just click x to bring down a menu that allows you to properly close it)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] yildi:
Thank you very much all!

I have installed Alkor_B2_Ramsses_Kozhura_v1g.rar ROM and it works like a charm. Even my home WPA-PSK Wifi connection works without any problem (this was not possible with some earlier ROMs that I have tested). Hx4700 is not my main PDA anymore (I have bought a 210 in the mean time) but it is quite usable again, after all this HP-WM5 fallacy... Thank you very much Kozhura, Alkor, Andy and Sanjay.

Best regards,

Murat
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chapito:
New ROM HP Ipaq hx4700 WM6.1 [Alkor Edition] Beta 3

A new version for the IPAQ HX4700 done by the WM 6.1 ALKOR.

This beta 3 is based on ROM version 20273.

Here I leave with you the link if you want to test it by:

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=70688&st=510

A greeting and good luck.

Note: We used a translator automatic. Sorry for the inconvenience.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chrismrulz:
lol damn, just upgraded to the b2_v1g version the other day.

whats different about ittttttt???? never gonna be able to find out.

alkor's are based off the 201 right? should mean they're better i guess..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pegaz:
MY HX4700 died after Alkor B3 update :(

As in the topic, nothing happens does not charge, no bootloader dark screen.I used included utility... Just at 99% then it went to 100% and it threw an error : time out or sth... That's mean it is the end of my PPC ?? help me please
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pegaz:
HX Alive again

I desperately disassembled HX took off the backup battery put together again and still the same I did it twice and nothing. And then I tried once more enter in bootloader mode and I saw it again!!! :) Before HX didn't reacted for nothing behave like a piece of plastic no signs of any life. So when I saw bootloader i tried to flash again this time with chris bootloader (thanks man for that great tool!)This time flashing was successful. This rom is good for me so far, however I haven't test it to much but I doesn't have those issues(IE didn't work, couldn't write new email, IR didn't work etc) that made me mad in the earlier versions (kozhuras r5, ramzes 1g, and last I used before- Algasystems).I'm staying with this rom. If I find any bugs I'll write about them.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hi Pegaz

PIE dont work in 210 too , I have one from factory , dont work ....I have algasys isnstalled , and only pie its a trouble , but I dont use ,please can you tell me diferences between algasys and you new Alkor 3 rom Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Not necessarily. Being based on different hardware may mean it doesn't work at all...

Personally, I've found the latest ROMs to have flaws in them...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
i agree, i'm using Sanjays V3lite and have been using it for approx 2 months.

added opera,ilauncher TCPMP, sprite backup,mobireader,tomtom6,cabinstall. and i have found no problems at all. :):)

i have read all the posts in this thread and most of the stuff Rammeses/andy has done is to clean the registry of dead links, a LOT of tweaks and newer versions. but there have been mixed results from the posts i have read. some like them others say there are faults?? flashing icons etc... dissapearing icons ...

i personally am happy with what i have and dont want to change and reinstall every time i try a new rom.

BTW does anyone know of a utility to remove a LOT of duplicates in the calendar? i have had outlook problems (not rom related) and when i re synched i ended up with heaps of dupes.... i dont want to go through 4 years of calendar entries to clean it out........
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hx4700_user:
Duplicates in Outlook.

If you mean lots of duplicates on your PC version of Outlook, then I've had this problem after changing ROM's, restoring my PPC from a backup utility, the re-syncing. I used a freeware app "Outlook Duplicate Items Remover" from here http://www.vaita.com/ODIR.asp It extracts the duplicates and creates a copy which you can review and delete as you wish.

Hope this helps.

Mike
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] badgerdid:
I posted this in the other thread, dont know which was best one

I want to know which is the best lite rom version to use

I only want to run tt7 on the 4700 so need a rom without any software installed, or at least one with the least amount installed to give me more ram, preformance etc.

tt7 IS working fine as is, but i dont need most of the stuff on there,

any suggestions?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pegaz:
Differences I noticed between algasys and alkor b3 - nice wallpaper that I like, IE working fine in algasys it hung up all the time, during startup you can configure time zone,email as usual in algasys it was deleted hmmm what else..? In algasys i didn't like the skin of mediaplayer. That all I can say for now don't have time to install java emulators etc
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
i would suggest Sanjays 61v3_lite version then... i use it with tomtom6 quite fine. it has pie removed,windows media to name a few . there is a link from the first page..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
thanks, i am d/l ing it now..looks like what i need.....