yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] shawndh:
The reason why people (n00bs) keep asking what's the best ROM....

It's hard to find all the ROMs in the first place. I started looking for a new ROM for my wife's MDA about a week ago. I'm not really a n00b to XDA-Dev (usually in Artemis forum) but I wasn't familiar with the Wizard forum. The problem that I had was that I couldn't find the ROM threads. I don't mind reading them, but I'll read a few posts and someone will mention a ROM I didn't even know existed - I'm still learning about older (but new to me) ROMs.

I posted a question similar asking to point me in the right direction based on a list a requirements. I think the post was deleted or never replied to. You senior members are familiar with this forum, n00bs are not. These forums are NOT easy to follow, even for those from other forums who are not n00bs. But if you're willing to flash your device, you gotta do what you gotta do - READ.

However, my suggestion for a stickie post (that I would believe would eleminate a lot of these posts) would be to have a Stickie of all the Cooked ROM threads. Everytime a new ROM comes out, just post a link to the thread with it's name/ver#. That way you can find what you want to read about. It doesn't eliminate the need to read the threads, it just helps to find the threads. I don't think it would be that hard to maintain that. I'd be willing to post all the ROMS I've read about and tried with links to the thread. Let know what you all think.

PS, If this is already in the wiki, I aplologize, but haven't been able to access the Wizard wiki for 2 days now. I just remember a page of all the official shipped ROMS.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] shadezero:
I just cook my own with the kitchen.

I'm not sure if that makes performance worse or what. Since I don't know what method other chefs use to make their roms (compression, custom tweaks, etc)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] alber786:
WCRX ROMS are the BEST

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WCRX is the BEST ROM
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Mlkfahl:
I think there should be a poll in this thread with all the recent roms posted to see where they stand.. It would be nice for the guys making these roms so they know how many people are using their rom..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] sslashflo:
Wrcx 1 Is The Best!!!!

I agree wrcx roms are excellent.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] uzoc2005:
It's already known...

The best is always the simplest and most stable (and the latest/sometimes). I just downloaded the plain Boring T-Mobile 5.2.1622 for the Wizard (8125) he also created an AT&T version. Then you simply install the apps you want and test them as you go or as others would say "create your own ROM" but this is the easy and simple way.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] cellaccme:
BEST ROM I ever had.

I started out with a Cinbular 8125. found this forum, learned to unlock it and install other roms. I first used NBD versions 8 through 9.2. All of them were slow and had camera problems and freeze up. Then I discoverd TNT 1933. TNT was fabulous, until i found out the camera didn't work after a while and freeze up the phone. So I gave black diamond a try, which I installed with T-Mobile, UK 2.19.11 radio (to fix the "call and text" problem). Everything was great until I found out the videos that I recorded, couldn't be played by Windows Media Player. So then I decided to go back to TNT 1933, and buy the CoolCamera program to fix my camera issues with TNT. CoolCamera rocks! it's faster than the original camera program. It was worth the $17.95 I had to pay for the CoolCamera. So this is what worked best for me.

Great Combination with No Problems so far.

1. TNT 1933 with Touchflo. (the rom)

2. T-Mobile UK 2.19.11 radio (to recieve all your calls and text everytime)

3. YouTube streaming video fix (link found on the BlackDaimond thread)

3. CoolCamera (Do a search on google for it)

4. PocketCM Keyboard (a cool extra add on keyboard similar to the iphone)

Enjoy.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] badguy999:
noob. TNT cant be the best rom, cause i tried it and it had many bugs. I wasnt satisfied. Coolcamera is available in every "store" for free. U should spend money for other better programs like navizon or anything else. octaivoi 5.8 or 6 is the best rom IMHO for wizard.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] neonkoala:
1. There's no need to go round calling people 'noobs' is there really?

2. Learn to spell and make grammatical sense.

3. He's entitled to his opinion.

4. I'm pretty sure promotion of 'warez' isn't allowed.

5. "octaivoi 5.8 or 6 is the best rom IMHO" Correct. This is just your opinion and doesn't mean you're automatically right about everything.

6. To be honest, just go away, you're not helping.

cellaccme: Thanks for taking your time with this. I agree with the radio ROM, I have had the least problems with this one and I know quite a few people have to use this to get decent service on certain carriers. I have also found TNT ROMs to be some of the most solid ones.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Mr. Zach:
I use the same setup just about, just minus the coolcamera and i'm way happy. i'm yet to have any substantial issues with the TNT series roms.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] cellaccme:
If you are going to say there was many bugs, then please be more specific, cause TNT still needs some add-ons for it to work properly. Please, no generalizations, be specific and detailed.

Because I can also say that I used Octiaivoi, and it gave me alot of problems too.

As for getting CoolCam for free, if u are going to make that statement, then please provide a link to the stores you are talking about. Otherwise, don't make things up on this thread. Because I can also say to you, a store is giving away laptops for free. You going to believe me?

What does IMHO mean? I got a Cingular 8125, with T-mobile 2.26 as the base rom, before flashing the TNT rom. Maybe that is another combination to consider that makes this TNT rom work good.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] badguy999:
Sorry man for calling u noob. But i am pretty sure what i am talking about.

I am speaking of my experiences with different roms for g4. U have to try the octaivoi rom. It is most beautiful, camera album working, gprs, wifi , bt all working. The rom has fast boot time, no freezing at all, i have 2.19 radio rom. I had 2.47 and 2.61 too, with all no problems with missing call etc...

IMHO= in my honest opinion

BE honest , all roms works very similar fast. I have cpu overclocked to 247 and i dont noticed any change. Other roms are as fast as octaivoi, but have bugs( battery life too short, no application preinstalled that i need, slow boot time, freezing...).

I tried TNT 5 basic(lite) and i wasnt satisfied with boottime, and rom freezes 2 times in 1 day. Then i flashd wizard with octaivoi 5.6 and found great rom.I tried also octaivoi 4.7 months ago and it had bugs, wasnt stable as i wish. Now is perfect for me .

btw coolcamera is available in several forums with ppc applications. And it is a neccesary program for our wizard I install the coolcamera always after flashing and i use cc ofcourse.

i hope u will understand what i am writing about. cause : "Learn to spell and make grammatical sense#.

have a nice day

;)

matej
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] akashastrega:
my best rom ever...

You cannot beat the cat!!!

Jaguar 3.1 by NTS rocks!!!

Very stable, fast and dependable. I love love love this rom.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jochsey:
As a new person looking for ROMs it would be heaps easier if there was a thread with links to download them. All in the one place.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mfrazzz:
A poll is absolutely worthless. Most of the people in these threads that live on this board don't stay on any rom for much more than a week or two, then they go flash the "next best thing" that is released. Its been started and tried many times, and the polls don't mean a thing (I remember almost a year ago a poll got started and it showed Most Beautiful Edition rom was the most popular. A week or so later most people had moved on to Core, or something else that was then out and working better. For months afterwards new people to the boards would find that poll and install MBE as it was "obviously" the most popular since that thread showed it was. By that time very few people were using it.

If the roms were slow to be released, this might work, but they aren't... There is a new rom every few days (or an updated version of a current rom).

The Kaiser forum has a sticky that is maintained that lists the current roms available. It works pretty well, but you have to have someone to maintain the thread (and It had better be a moderator, or you will have a dead thread when that original person moves on).

Someone started a Wiki Page that lists roms. I updated that page with my releases, but I was one of the few updating it, and nobody reads the Wiki anyway so I stopped.

So IMO there are 2 solutions that might work...

1) A moderator creates a thread and maintains it (reason I say a moderator is that nobody else can update the first post other than the creator of the thread)

2) Someone create a thread that points to a Wiki page with a listing of the roms (and then lock that thread and make it a sticky). Then ANYONE can maintain the Wiki page to keep it updated.

I think #2 is the best option since it will avoid another dead thread...

BTW: the banter a few posts back also proves that "What's the Best WM6 ROM" is a joke. You have two people that love two different roms for two different reasons. There is no "BEST" rom... Some people love Lite roms, other want packed. Some people have to have the latest version number and others want one that is reliable. Some want FTouchFlo / Cub, and other hate that... So the better route is for people to write up a review of a rom, and state why they like it and why they don't (and you need to give specifics of what the pros are, not that it just "kicks ass" as that doesn't mean anything. Same for the cons)...

Ok, I'm done with this thread as I don't see it going anyplace constructive currently.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] g0dblissyou:
Octavoi is so far...the best

The newest verison of octavoi is rocking fast...as im using it to type this on wifi, omapclock set @ 264. The lag is not as bad as other rom, and internet experience is amazing, and I have the kraiser tooo so it takes a lot to impress me, also I had the wizard since it came out...trying all the wm6 rom, this is the fastest and best experience, try it guys. The wizard still kick ass!

Oh and anyone wants to know multi-tasking in this rom is awesome tooo, cause I have msn chat and office word and typing this without lag....yeah
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] :
so let's oink.

i am operating flawlessly at 169 mhz, and try to impress me lol.

3.5 mb PP, 37 mb mem free.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jeffla:
I use Mfrazzz's R3 release and have been since its release. My priorities were in this order: stable/reliable, available program/app memory, speed. So far I have had no issues with any of his roms that were not already listed in the first post. I get about 2 days out of my year old battery. I am anxiously awaiting the final release of R5 to give that a try.

I use battery status to over clock to 247 with boost to 260 and find that all the roms I have tried perform about the same. The biggest difference is in their reliability and available ram and battery life.

I use my phone everyday for it's intended purpose as a smart phone. So if you want a os that will rival the OEM's, then Mfrazzz is the way to go.

Unfortunately we are loosing him to the Tilt. :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] akashastrega:
While I used to be a member of RFA (Rom Flashers Anonymous), since flashing the cat, I have stayed loyal. I've run this rom for a few months now and see no reason to flash to another, as I stated, it is super stable and quick.

However...as rom's get released here pretty much daily, and as the "best" rom truly is taste dependent, I agree that polls and such are useless. While I love the Jag, and have started the NTS fan club, others may disagree. While I love the stability and sleekness of Jaguar, others prefer TouchFlo, or want a truly vanilla rom. If we were to create any type of poll or side by side comparison's, they'd need to be broken down into categories...true vanilla, sleek and minimal, chocked full and pimped out. True vanilla having nothing but the OS, sleek and minimal being like my precious Jag---has a few needed apps but not too much more, chocked full being a basic OS with many supplied apps, and pimped out being TouchFlo's or Fave5's and whatever has all the bells and whistles and more. We would then have to categorize those by a star rating based on stability, speed, etc...so it would turn into a clusterf*ck because of all these categories, sub-categories and daily new editions!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] aldiersa:
hi all.....can u help me please.....?????????

how to upgrade my O2 XDA mini to wm 6

thank's.........
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xda2_haseeb:
A Perfect BASE ROM

Can anyone tell me which ROM would be BEST as a BASE ROM for Cooking. Please provide it's link of downloading to.

OR you can give me download link of unedited version of Microsoft Windows Mobile 6 ROM.

Thnx in advance.:D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] :
unedited IS NOT best base lol.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xda2_haseeb:
Sorry but u didnt understand unedited is the best as a BASE ROM. By the way THNX anyway.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ndn715:
nothin is right. if you are asking what the best fully stripped and unedited rom is and haven't been following this forum enough to know, then you aren't prepared to cook out what you want.

start with a vanilla version, such as theloons 318 bare, wrcx1, its right's official or vanilla roms. fully stripped means that you need to try to get all the dogfood stuff out, all CIP, all the misc MS reg settings, put some services back in, get the comm mgr working, and much more. it is not for the inexperienced, trust me, its taken a long time for me to figure out how to get deep into cooking... try a vanilla one that an experienced chef has taken the time to get right... you can get what you are looking for this way. it's much easier to pull out what you don't want than start from scratch, the benefits in the end to you are not worth the work it will take.

let us know when you can cook a 318 to 37mb free :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mfrazzz:
Sorry, but I don't think you understand... First, there is NO official WM6 Wizard ROM. So asking for an unedited WM6 rom doesn't even make sense unless you are planning on porting the drivers and all to make a rom for some other phone work on the Wizard. In my experience, all of the ported roms have issues (but some of them lately are becoming much more stable, but they still have bugs due to driver conflicts or the porting not being a complete match with OS and the drivers available).

Second, the 318 build is the only real Wizard WM6 rom. The unedited dump won't work (it was hardcoded to the phone it was pulled from), so it has to be edited to be made to work. Search around for ingenetics and you may find the original dump file (somehow I lost my copy or I'd point you to it.)

BTW: even an unedited WM6 copy from Microsoft for the intended phone, is far from perfect (and has bugs and issues).
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ndn715:
even with the misc bugs from porting, the edited ones here still work better... i tried out a wing for a week and i forgot how bad stock roms are :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] stmasi:
Wait a minute! Something from M$ having bugs and issues?!?!

:eek:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ndn715:
oh sorry, those are features :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] stmasi:
Hey...as long as we stick to the proper technical terminology, I'm fine with it.

:D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xda2_haseeb:
all i actually need an official T-Mobile WM6 ROM for Wizard. Thnx for all the answers and i can figure everthing out on myself (i guess so). Dont under estimate me im using computer since i was 3 years old but still everybody needs some push. By the way Thnx to every body But please do tell me any link to official T-Mobile WM6 ROM for Wizard.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Here is a link to ingenetics original rom;

http://rs180.rapidshare.com/files/57225880/ROM.rar

How to cook a rom

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=313920

Loons way for noobs

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1675677#post1675677
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ndn715:
c'mon man, please read our posts before you reply.

THERE IS NO TMOBILE WM6 ROM.

there is a reason that we play around with ported builds...

and we are not bashing your computer skills. same here, ive been hacking **** since i was three, and im the lead admin at a $90 million company... whee!

the chefs on this board are beyond experienced and most likely have no free time, its amazing that they can put these out at all. i'm not even close to that level, and i havent had any other hobbies for 6 months... you wouldn't believe the time this takes...

true advice... take a vanilla but fixed rom, 318 if you like, and get it completely customized how you want. full dsm, rgu, hv, initflashfiles, etc.. to not only practice, but then you'll know where you want to go with a full base.

if you want a challenge to start before you go fixing the 318 base, try taking an existing rom, and pull everything out of it to make a base. mms, camera, comm, phone... everything. first, if you can do it, you'll have your base. second, if you can't, you dont need to start with a base...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] akashastrega:
Those fabulous features are exactly why I went and loaded up Jaguar instead...I preferred NTS's features...oh wait, Jaguar has no features (at least by M$/Tmo standards!!).

Oh, and to the original poster...

nothin has been here helping wannabe cooks for a long time...if you are questioning an answer given,

perhaps you are not quite understanding the cooking process just yet

.

I know I have been here for a while and have read so many threads and stickies and wiki's I'd swear my eyes were going to bleed. I thought I was ready to cook, and my first attempt was almost Brick-inducing...so I have gone back to reading everything in an attempt to fully understand the process. There are many wonderful kitchen's here (as previously stated) where the rom has been fixed to be as stable as possible. Start there. The folks who release these kitchens really do know what they are doing and have released some very good roms. No one is bashing you, don't get defensive...but please understand what you are doing before doing it, rather than figuring it out and winging it!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xda2_haseeb:
lets be frnds and dont fight, i also dont have anyother hobbies since last uncountable years. have a msn ID please do tell me ill add you. and thnx to all who helped me.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] akashastrega:
Nobody is fighting. We are trying to explain to you that there is NO OFFICIAL ROM, and warning you that the cooking process is difficult to say the least. Do you want to be responsible for fubar'ing someone else's device if you release a bad rom on your site? There is no competition here to keep new cooks down...the "pro's" truly do and are helping when they reply to your threads. They are not answering in a certain way to make you not want to try, but they do want you to fully understand the details and processes involved.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ndn715:
+1

we are not trying to be jerks, just giving advice...

please take my suggestion about pulling apart a rom first, i know exactly where you are coming from... i wanted to make mine from scratch, but damn, its hard to get it to the point that others have already done. taking one apart to cook your own is the way to go for what most of us want... post up if you cook it!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] akashastrega:
The "fame" that these chef's have is because they truly know wtf they are doing! They live and breathe this sh*t. I understand a whole helluva lot about cooking ands am still not ready to re-attempt it. I too know computers, my degree is in computers. A PC and a PPC are 2 totally different creatures. Knowing about a PC only gives you a slight edge in creating a rom for a PPC.

No one is trying to bust your proverbial balls here. Start with a kitchen, modify it to fit your needs. Run it on your device for a while, make sure you got all the bugs out, that nothing freezes up, that everything runs exactly as it should...once that is done, release it. I'd love to see what you have in mind. But please don't feel as if we are attacking you. We are trying to save you from a possible costly mistake if you rush into things before fully understanding them.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] hayduke:
password for Ingenetic's ROM?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
password...playnice,

here is another link to ingenetics rom that is already nk.nbf dated 10/6/2007

http://rapidshare.com/users/T4RZX2
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] :
i have the perfect base rom

but i will not share with anyone!

eahueuahea so many stupid question.....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xda2_haseeb:
Hey i wanted to know one thing that is canu edit the taskbar in a ROM? i.e if i want to change the look of taskbar can i? becoz i didnt find any images relating that. Thnx alot and remember ppl i have always starta new thing and with the grace of allmighty Allah i never screwed up. Thnx to him. so try to believe in him and continue ull never fail if ur intensions are good.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xda2_haseeb:
for u i got a speacial answer that is

"Who asks a question looks stupid for some time but who doesn't remains stupid his all life."

I guess it clears your concept about the stupid questions. Thnx.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xda2_haseeb:
is this nk.nbf for wizard?? Thnx.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ndn715:
once again, please read these posts. i don't think these posts can be any clearer. you need to pull apart any rom and start playing. if you put up the argument that you're capable of making a full rom, then figure it out and ask hard questions when you are really stumped and have already really tried. people can't hand hold you all the way, and more questions like these will start to really piss people off.

i sure as hell don't want to get into a religious battle, because i'm sure that allah helps you in many ways, but i doubt he will help you not brick your phone. rotflmao :rolleyes:

and calling people stupid when you ask for help will _really_ piss people off... boto gets to, you and i don't.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] leaskovski:
Ive only just got into upgrading my rom on my g3. There are a few roms out there but the main thing is they seem to be loaded with a ton of extra progs. All I really want is WM6. This touchflo stuff seems to be a load of pony. I dont really like it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Yes it is......
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xda2_haseeb:
Leave every thing i got my answer thnx to all.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
Wow, this is gonna be fun to see, any takers on the 3 day brick post from the author?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] akashastrega:
Can't say there haven't been warnings made.

So NTS...feel like starting a pool...How long will it take before we get a panicked thread...any takers???