yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Shift General] Vs1979:
OK so thanks to Michael who commented on Browsing using Contacts and Pictures, I managed to gain access to the Windows Mobile File Explorer and other software on the device.

First step is to create a new email.

From the menu Insert - Picture.

Using the browse capability go to the Windows folder

Locate Start Menu and press Ctrl C

Browse to Settings

Press Ctrl V

Go to Snapvue homescreen and goto Settings

Start Menu will be visible and you can then access File Explorer etc.

Hope this helps....
[Shift General] Wiz:
Excellent. I have sent myself the executable of PHM.lu's regedit, saved it into my documents, and am now able to access and edit the registry!
[Shift General] michael85:
Great! Any possibilty to enable blocked things like office or is it not installed?
[Shift General] Vs1979:
Also in my limited investigations, I have managed to almost access Windows Vista from the Windows Mobile side.

Using Resco's Explorer with its Network Access functionality, I performed the following.

Under Windows Vista, run the ShagCtrl application.

Install a Certificate, this can be any file you like.

You will see the progress bar appear and drop up and down. If you listen you will hear the sound of a new device being added.

Do NOT click OK when prompted as this will remove the device.

If you load up Device manager, you will see an "NDIS shared Internet connection" (or something similar) appear under network connections.

If you open CMD and run an IPConfig, you will see that this connection has an IP Address of 192.168.160.102 and a gateway and DHCP server of 192.168.160.1.

From the Windows Mobile side, load Resco Explorer and goto Menu - File - Network - Map Drive

In the dialog that appears, you should see Computers near Me (or similar) and under here should be your Vista machine.

If you share a drive, or select the Vista computer and put \c$ on the end, it should try to connect.

This is as far as it gets me so far. Was a late one, but I couldnt get it to actually connect.

So close yet so far.

In Addition, if you try to run a cab file it will error. This is because HTC have remove the Open command file association for Cab files.

Using your favourite WM registry editor goto HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\.

Under Default type

wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete

cab files will now install correctly.

Hope this helps...
[Shift General] sacramoso:
Hi,

I ama anew user of Shift. I am did not understand clearly what did you mean about full WM6 or 6.1. Knows somebody how can we have a full WM6 on it? Pls help me I really need a full WM6 system also.

Thx.
[Shift General] foxmeister:
Ok, so I've accessed the Start menu using Vs1979s instructions, and I've found that Windows Live messenger is on the device and works ok. I'd like to try and install Opera, but I need a registry editor that isn't a CAB file in order to add back in the registry key to support CAB files - can someone point me in the direction of one?

Thanks,

Dave
[Shift General] danielherrero:
How did you load Resco Explorer on Snapvue?
[Shift General] rpawly:
Daniel and all,

I have followed your steps and was able to connect to the winmo side of the device, i can see Pocket PC in explorer and manipulate files.

And it does shut down the 3g to vista side.

Confirmed

Interesting note: While connected via activesync, i enabled wifi and it lost its connect to the winmo side. It looks like when you enable wifi on vista it disables access to the 3g modem.

I was able to install soti pocket controller as daniel was.
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Gee, what are you doing?

Hi rpawly, Daniel and all the rest,

fascinated by what you are doing I read your posts, most of the time I haven't got a clue what you are talking about.

I am just some user who would really like to use WM completely, at least as far as is possible.

I am still waiting for the gadget, but I am already frightened that because of my lack of expertise I will snap Snapvue.

So this is what I would really like. Do you or anyone who understands what is going on write some sort of step by step manual which might enable us to change Snapvue. Us = people with just some basic knowledge. I own an HTC Vario II with WM 6.

That would be really really nice.

Settembrini
[Shift General] rpawly:
ok daniel and others i need something new and shiny to do :)

anything to test?

anything anyone wants to know?
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
So you can reverse the steps to return 3G use to Vista?
[Shift General] sbueschi:
Thanks to Daniel and other guys, i managed to edit the registry as described, execute now CAB Files without problems and also installed Quickmenu. Furthermore SPB Pocket plus, which has it all. And Documents to go, which enables now to read office files and PDFs. And I of course donated to the Shift project.

Thanks to all you guys. Cheers, S
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Nice. Now I am not alone in the dark :D

In my tests many times I ve to reset both parts(snapvue and vista) to get 3g working properly on vista side again after activesync was connected:confused:(specially after resuming).So it would be nice to find a procedure to avoid it.,,,,
[Shift General] citivolus:
can someone test playing media files using TCPMP? also does anyone own a Slingbox that could test Slingplayer?
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
I haven't bothered, as there is no room for media on the device.

We need SD card access!
[Shift General] danielherrero:
There are some winmo services with curious name (got with TaskMgr program)

1)Bluetooth audio gateway

2)Sync bluetooth server

3)Bluetooth HID Loader.

Too many bluetooth services running in a non bluetooth windows mobile, isnt it? Maybe there is a way to access BT hardware from winmo side? or maybe BT hardware is really on winmo side (but hidden) and shared with vista side?:confused:
[Shift General] citivolus:
true, but at the rate you guys are going, it is appears fairly likely that we will have SD card access in the near future! cmonex confirmed it with a test ROM, so that confirms the wiring is there. better to know that video performance is worthwhile pursuing!
[Shift General] killer_t:
Daniel, ivn't loose 3g connectivity... why?
[Shift General] parkertseng:
I did the following process and gain the access to file system of WM side.

First step is to create a new email.

From the menu Insert - Picture.

Using the browse capability go to the Windows folder

Locate Start Menu and press Ctrl C

Browse to Settings

Press Ctrl V

Go to Snapvue homescreen and goto Settings

Start Menu will be visible and you can then access File Explorer etc.

I can also connect to WM file system through WM device manager on Vista side.

There are few questions need to be answered.

1. How to install the *.cab file on WM side? I always get an error saying about the certificate.

2. How to install quickmenu on WM side?

3. If I uncheck the Snapvue from the items to be shown on today, what will happen?

Thanks in advance!
[Shift General] rpawly:
Daniel,

Any progress with RealVGA ?
[Shift General] x5-rwk:
i agree. slingplayer is a must. i have it on vista but the battery life is bad.
[Shift General] rpawly:
If you have no confidence in your abilities i would suggest waiting until someone releases a ROM file that you can just do it all in 1 step. Daniel and the brains of the group are doing the base looking around now.

Stay Tuned
[Shift General] cmonex:
excellent, let us know.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Working on It. Installers for HTC Athena refuses to install....
[Shift General] damiantmc:
hmmm

Hey guys, fascinated by whats going on here, I really wanted a shift when they were first rumored but then the snapvue thing came along and I changed my mind, great that your working on it, I may become a shift believer again lol. anyway, what I was thinking (and it may be completly stupid or wrong but i'm trying lol) I have a TYTN 2 which is supposed to have the same basic underlying chipset for the winmo side, so couldn't we borrow some of the drivers, commands and registry settings from that to try and gain additional functionality, may require some tinkering but might work. if you need anything from my device let me know.

Damian
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hi.

I am getting problems. I have the tipical problem. You know, you cant launch startu button, etc. I ve emailed me and copied on \windows\startup a .tsk, a link to explorer, rescoexplorer.exe and then reset but It seems they arent executed. Any idea?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
In spanish the startup directory is \windows\Inicio but It isnt being executed. I ve created a small C program that prints a messagebox in "Hello world", I ve copied to \windows\inicio and It isnt shown. So, or the directory is incorrect or Windows is refusing to execute the contents.....
[Shift General] danielherrero:
A few days ago I removed some elements of \windows\startup directory. Please, could someone zip them and post it? maybe this the problem. Thanks
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I even have removed \windows\inicio and system boots. Maybe is booting from other directory....
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Please can someone the content of \windows\startp directory and the files?:(
[Shift General] michael85:
I'm at my work now. If no one has posted this tonight, I will do that for you.:)

Arround 7 PM (we're in the same timezone ;))
[Shift General] killer_t:
Here!!!!!

Inside the zip file there's a italian folder.. Rename to spanish!!!:D
[Shift General] danielherrero:
wow thanks. One question. Are you sure It is being executed?, can you put a link to any program and reset to see if It is bein executed?

Many thank
[Shift General] killer_t:
Blocktitlebar.exe and poutlook.exe are executed..

But i don't see PKG...

Mah..
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I ve called HTC and they tell I should return the device. Ok, today I will do it if I dont find other solution.....
[Shift General] killer_t:
how have you doing?
[Shift General] michael85:
What is the problem you have why you want to return it?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
\windows\startup (inicio in spanish) isnt being executed so I cant take control. And of course, imposible to hard reset, etc, etc....
[Shift General] killer_t:
You have move or erase it..

You try to send sms to shift?
[Shift General] michael85:
Can you browse? Can you recieve an email?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Yes I can. But the content of windows\inicio isnt being executed. Maybe because I installed RealVGA.cab....:confused:
[Shift General] rpawly:
Daniel,

I just woke up, can I do anything for you besides installing RealVGA.cab lol :)
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I can browse. That isnt the problem. Windows refuses to execute \Windows\inicio (startup) and Its there, beleive.....
[Shift General] rpawly:
I can definitely verify that the shift executes /windows/startup, in my whole process i was adding things to it and they were popping up on startup. It is suppose to use that dir 100%
[Shift General] killer_t:
Send me the *.cab you have installed...

The startup folder dosn't start....

Try to send you (excuseme) file.reg, and see if you can open it..
[Shift General] rpawly:
Let me know what you need ill go to drop my son to school and be home about 20 mins, dont know what i can do but of course ill help, maybe you just need a hug :/
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I ve installed it. All was fine. Screen was nice. But QuickMenu and other startup programs, like bandswitch, wasnt executed. From then I ve tried to place things on \Windows\Inicio (\Windows\Startup in www) but windows doesnt want to execute their contents....
[Shift General] michael85:
Do you have regeditor on it?

Maybe you can force there to execute something?

Did you try to delete the exe of realvga?

Does anybody know if the installed programs exe is working of even on the device? Then Danielherrero can try to delete the program.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hi. RealVGA isnt a program. Simply makes changes on the registry:(
[Shift General] michael85:
Do you want a backup of my registery?

Maybe you can import that.:)
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hehe thanks :) but I ve tried to do it and doesnt work. I think only way is hard reset....
[Shift General] michael85:
Isn't there a way to startup a program from the register?

Then you can start the cleanstorage program.
[Shift General] killer_t:
No, there is a realvga.exe, if you can to remove.....
[Shift General] michael85:
Do you know where it is located?
[Shift General] rpawly:
Daniel,

Im expecting a call back from HTC today with word from the Taiwan engineers. Dont be hasty and return just yet.
[Shift General] michael85:
Was the original language Spanish of did you switch from english to Spanish?

EDIT:

It's professional, not a smartphone so you can't switch...

Which realvga did you try?

I saw this one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=327830

there is stated that you can only use it on english OS versions..
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Anyway I removed all the files and directories created by the cab...
[Shift General] Vs1979:
Hey Daniel,

Did you perhaps try creating a new folder with startup contents and name this \windows\startup. In case something has altered the registry to look for the name \windows\startup.

A real stab in the dark, sorry :-)
[Shift General] rpawly:
and you get the same result?
[Shift General] rpawly:
if thats true then it would surely be looking for /windows/startup not the spanish version.
[Shift General] michael85:
This is installed with the realvga_11.cab

You can see there is nothing in the registery.

Please search your device where the things are locatied.

It's makeing a realvga.exe Maybe in a folder "ce2" or something?

And of course a shortcut. Maybe it made an enlish folder "startup" or something?

<parm name="NumDirs" value="2" />

<parm name="NumFiles" value="1" />

<parm name="NumRegKeys" value="0" />

<parm name="NumRegVals" value="0" />

<parm name="NumShortcuts" value="1" />

EDIT:

See this:

<characteristic type="MakeDir" />

- <characteristic type="RealVGA.lnk" translation="install">

- <characteristic type="Shortcut">

<parm name="Source" value="%CE2%\RealVGA.exe" translation="install" />
[Shift General] killer_t:
Only hard format are permitted with ClearStorage.exe

if you want i can send to you this file...
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Thanks....but what can I do with that file if I cant execute nothing....:confused:
[Shift General] Vs1979:
That doesnt mean that on its first attempted launch, that Realvga.exe didnt create (or modify) registry settings. If you binary edit the realvga.exe, you may see some reference to registry details, I noted quickly that there are CLSID entries in there which are from the HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT registry structure.

But still blindly stabbing my stylus in the dark, sorry.....
[Shift General] michael85:
What happends when you browse and try to open something?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
When I reboot winmo simply doesnt execute the contents of \windows\startupu....
[Shift General] rpawly:
realvga has obviously told winmo to do something besides execute \windows\startup

on the side, a senior escalation tech that spoke with the developers in taiwan is suppose to call me with "good news" in the next 15 mins or so.
[Shift General] rpawly:
daniel,

so what state is winmo in right now.

can you contact one of realvga guys and have them lend some of their braincells to it?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Well I ve 3 options.

1) Maybe the htc tech contacts you and tells how to hard reset.

2) Change the device for other new. I will do it in 4 hours if I cant solve it.

3) I ve unassambled shagdll.dll and I am watching If I can use it to hard reset...
[Shift General] rpawly:
you can change the device in 4 hours? local store?

if thats true, you dont really have any worries.

for me to change would require me to send it probably back to europe heh.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Well, I hope so. But I dont really know.....Well, hope htc guy calls you....
[Shift General] spamcatch:
As I understand it is now possible to run various WM programs when using a sim card. Thanks for this, y'all!

Any ideas on how to sync vista and snapvue contacts/calendar without sim?

When I'm home tonight I will be able to test some suggestions on my shift and join in on the fun :)
[Shift General] danielherrero:
By now I ve managed to reset winmo programatically from Vista using ShagCtrl.dll. This library has some methods, like ResetWinCE. But there isnt nothing similiar "hard reset" :)
[Shift General] killer_t:
You can add shortcut to clearstorage.exe?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
It would be nice but I cant....
[Shift General] michael85:
Did you also try to add a new folder named "startup" (ENGLISH!!)
[Shift General] rpawly:
daniel pm check
[Shift General] michael85:
Did you got a response from HTC how to hard reset it?:rolleyes:
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I dont know how to create folders using browsing folders system.....
[Shift General] danielherrero:
No way by now...So be carefull with your baby...:cool:
[Shift General] michael85:
It's safe at home now, because I'm working.

But tonight...... :D Thanks for the warning ;)

BTW: do you browse with the picture think or using file explorer?

And I think you can create a folder with holding it and then create or something? :confused:
[Shift General] rpawly:
daniel maybe you can reset snapvue from vista look at your file like that one and compare differences if any.
[Shift General] michael85:
This one is interesting....
[Shift General] rpawly:
ahhh you saw that one 2 :)
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
In Vista control panel, go to folder options and select to show hidden system folders, then you'll be able to see the Windows folder via activesync.
[Shift General] rpawly:
does the screen go off in winmo after a certain time?
[Shift General] michael85:
I didn't noticed something like that, but don't know if it was on the charger.

Yeah indeed :D Maybe time to kill this program and lets see what happends.

Will try this when I got home :)
[Shift General] danielherrero:
where is that file?
[Shift General] rpawly:
in the root dir on winmo
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Seems to stay on when on mains power, but turns off after a few mins of inactivity when on battery.
[Shift General] fatouraee:
There is something interesting there.

2008/03/11 15:20:01.804(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe

This is the phone App.
[Shift General] rpawly:
i tried that it is selected
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Yes but I cant see files...
[Shift General] rpawly:
nice :) thats what im talking about
[Shift General] rpawly:
you cant connect via activesync?
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Odd... that has always worked with other WinMo devices.
[Shift General] michael85:
Isn't that just for the 3G connection?

I tried to start it yesterday but nothing happends.

Maybe we can try to overwrite it with the app from a TyTn II or something?
[Shift General] fatouraee:
I think some sort of registry edit blocks it from running.

pick up any WM phone and goto windows and run it. it will bring up the phone app.
[Shift General] killer_t:
My 3g connection are on!!! always
[Shift General] killer_t:
there's a news for hard resetting!!!!!!:D:D
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Really??.......
[Shift General] michael85:
Why don't you share it with us? :confused:
[Shift General] killer_t:
Yes.. Became my friend to view te Htc shift..:D escuseme..

Step 1 : Shut down the mobile computer and turn the power back on

Step 2 : At start of the boot-up process, immediately press fn (green button of the keybord) + F3 to run the hard disk recovery utility

Step 3 : A message then appears, prompting you whether to terminate or proceed with the hard disk recovery process. Press N to continue.

Step 4 : The next message prompte you whether or not to rebuild the MBR (Master Boot Record) data. If, aside from drive c, you have created other partition in the hard disk and you want to keep them, press N. if you press Y, your partition will be deleted.

Step 5 : A confirmation message then prompts you whether or not to continue. Press Y to start hard disk recovery process.

Step 6 : After the recovery process is complete, slide and hold the POER/HOLD switch to the right for about four (4) second to shout down the mobile computer.

Step 7 : Slide the POWER/HOLD switch to the right again to turn the power back on. The windows setup Wizard runs and walks you through reinstalling and setting up Windows Vista.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
That procedure was reported to format vista side, no winmo:confused:
[Shift General] killer_t:
You have try it?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
rapwly did it.

Steps to try and recover SnapVue

Firstly try to Remove the battery and restart the handset.

If this fails please go into Snap View Mode and try to Tap in the bottom right hand corner of the Screen were the Settings button is meant to be located. If the Menu pops up please click on Clear Storage and follow the prompts.

There is a Hard Disk Recovery Method the process is directly out of the manual below.

5.2 Hard Disk Recovery

In case of system failure, Windows Vista® can be recovered to the hard disk by running the hard disk recovery utility. Before starting this utility, make sure to back up important data and files.

To run the hard disk recovery utility

1.

Shut down the Mobile Computer and then power it on again.

2.

At the start of the boot-up process, immediately press F3 to run the hard disk recovery utility.

3.

You will then see the following screen:

Recovery process is starting .....The process will delete all data on the hard drive.Do you want to terminate the process? (Y/N)104 Securing and Managing the Mobile Computer

Press N to continue with the hard disk recovery process. If you press Y, the hard disk recovery utility is terminated.

4.

The next message prompts you whether or not to rebuild the MBR (Master Boot Record) data:

Recovery process is starting .....The process will delete all data on the hard drive.Do you want to terminate the process? (Y/N) NDo you want to rebuild the MBR (Master Boot Record) data? (Y/N)

If, aside from drive C, you have created other partitions in the hard disk and you want to keep them, press N. If you press Y, your partitions will be deleted.

5.

A confirmation message then prompts you whether or not to continue. Press Y to start the hard disk recovery process. If you press N, the hard disk recovery utility is terminated.

6.

After the recovery process is complete, slide and hold the POWER/HOLD switch for about four seconds to shut down the Mobile Computer.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Last edited by rpawly : Today at 04:18 AM.
[Shift General] michael85:
Yes he is right. You can try it. But I think the storage for the WM side is not on the HD, but on a different flash chip...
[Shift General] cmonex:
that's nothing to do with the windows mobile part. unless it handles more than just the hard drive.
[Shift General] cmonex:
don't give up so soon. it is not impossible to hard reset. did anyone run enterbootloader.exe from vista yet? after running it, try running mtty and see if it can detect the device.

here's the mtty for shift: http://hpcmonex.net/mtty_0513_Test.exe

let me know if that works. if it does, then issue this command in mtty: task 28

that'll hard reset it
[Shift General] killer_t:
But i think the snapvue be formatting with recovery process..
[Shift General] pusler:
The recovery using the F3 key ONLY restores Vista, I hvae done this a few times trying to get a cisco vpn client running on the device.
[Shift General] cmonex:
er of course it boots. it's just startup dir, to run apps automatically. nothing to do with the system boot process itself
[Shift General] killer_t:
:mad::mad:
[Shift General] cmonex:
do you have a shift? i don't so can't try it... but if you do, did you try?
[Shift General] killer_t:
Why i do formatting my shift??

Pusler say the snapvue will not formatting with this action..