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[Shift General] cmonex:
OK got the debugtools uploaded to my site

http://hpcmonex.net/debugtoolspart1.zip

some of the tools might not work ... i did not check if all dependencies are in the zip. please let me know if any of the apps fails to run.

i know for sure that the GPS tools will not work because you need the gps driver files too. (no worries i got those too)

and i did not include some that i was not sure about what they are doing. i will find out soon hopefully

but what is of particular interest to you is the USBTool. put that in \windows and run it, that'll allow virtual usb connection to vista.

usage (quoting from a review): "USBTool. This offers a menu with two options - cable in and cable out. When you select cable in with Vista running it creates a virtual USB connection between the two personalities of the HTC Shift. This allows you to run up Mobile Device Center and explore the WM OS from Vista."

that reminds me, here are also some vista tools that may be useful (one of them is for wdmc usb setup?!). i don't know if all of them are present on the retail version of the shift

http://hpcmonex.net/shift_vista.zip
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Thanks¡¡. I will try it some time....if I cant hard reset I will go to the shop (willl close in 2 hours)
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
The debugtoolspart1.zip file seems to be corrupt in some way, it showed me a list of various files but when extracted, i only get 2 shortcuts and one cab file.

edit - OK, I'm a numpty. I had 'hide protected operating system files' turned on.
[Shift General] michael85:
It's working here :)
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
OK, when I run USBTool.exe, it tells me "Please plug in cable firest" complete with typo.

Now Vista is searching for drivers....

Yup, it works, Device centre has connected to the WinMo side.

Thanks for that cmonex, it's a lot more user friendly than the previous method we were using.
[Shift General] spamcatch:
You run usbtool on the wm side? Any way to get it there without using a sim card?
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Yup, place it into the windows folder on the wm side, then run it.

You'll need to email it to yourself, so a data sim is required.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I am back again. I went to the shop with my shift and they gave a new one, hehe. I know, I know, DONT INSTALL REAL VGA. :)
[Shift General] sbueschi:
I did that and successfully import into the registry, rebooted, but the standard items still dont appear in the today settings. Did i miss any preparation step beside the registy changes? thanks, S
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Its imported from kaiser. I am installing my new shift and I will post again....
[Shift General] fatouraee:
you have to goto home>items

and select the items that you want to show in your home screen...
[Shift General] sbueschi:
i know, thanks, in the items they dont show up. its still only date, snapvue and windows live
[Shift General] killer_t:
Nothink to add windows media player function??

Notepad??
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hi. I ve imported correctly using resco registry. Do you have resco registry installed?
[Shift General] sbueschi:
its another one, but with import function as well and i imported the file you posted.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Ensure It ve imported all the items under hklm\software\microsoft\today\items
[Shift General] rpawly:
I did it 2 days ago, only reformats the vista partition.
[Shift General] rpawly:
i did it 2 days ago, when i had snapvue issue, it does nothing to the winmo side.
[Shift General] rpawly:
LOL WHATEVER YOU DO DONT INSTALL REALVGA on your shift. Daniel is not a idiot and he could not recover it.

Be careful.

Not everyone has a local shop just to drop in and replace.

Daniel you fortunate that the local store to you carries the shift. It will be funny when htc gets it back as a warranty replacement and says WTF!! haha
[Shift General] rpawly:
daniel,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2018439&posted=1#post2018439
[Shift General] michael85:
Did you guys tried some of the developer tools?

if you open qxdmsdlog.exe you see you can log to an sd

unfortunately it's not working :(
[Shift General] rpawly:
I think our biggest issue right now is figuring out how to perform a hard reset on the box, no one wants to risk their 1600 dollar baby without being able to revive it.
[Shift General] rpawly:
so this gets rid of the connect, disconnect, then vista will connect?

can someone please post step by steps to get up and running.
[Shift General] Pawel062:
just came in to say nice job to everyone. looks like loads of progress. some things i would do though are to

replace the snapvue.dll in the windows folder with the one in the snapvue cab for athena.

it will then give u back the start menu on top.

use a reg editor and u'll be able to then get ur soft keys back.

change tsk to something else and ull have a pretty normal windows.

then just use the registry on here to get all the today plugins.

ill try to find some time to get the proper dlls for wifi, bt, and sd so everyone can get those back.
[Shift General] rpawly:
Ok whos gonna replace the snapvue.dll ??
[Shift General] Pawel062:
:p i dont have one so dont look at me. no worries, its a older dll than the one u have but its just modded so it wont hide the start menu. Boygenius was supposed to test but has been busy lately.
[Shift General] rpawly:
!! i just came back from brickdom!! im such a chicken without the hard-reset, i would be willing do anything if i had that up my sleeve.

unlike daniel i would have to ship mine back to europe for replacement. would take weeks :*(
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Hi.

Not missing but installing sp1, etc. And of course bringing full wm6 to snapvue but.....without realvga, hehe

Usbtool is easy to use. This is what I did.

1) Turn phone off. It will stop Internet Sharing service. If you skip this step sometimes the process wont work.

2) Run usbtool on winmo side and then menu/cable in

3) switch to vista side. Windows Mobile center shoud start connecting in few seconds.

4) Manager your pocket pc from vista, play with it, etc

5) Once you ve finished switch to winmo, bring usbtool to front, then menu/cable_out. Then exit

6) Turn phone on again. It should connect 3g correctly in vista side.....

Dani
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Its a nice idea. Specially 2GB ram. I put 2GB ram to my samsung q1u and the performance increased dramatically...
[Shift General] rpawly:
daniel,

where you dling SP1?

also you wanna try that athena snapvue.dll on your shiny new box? and then after you tell me it works lol ill do it haha.
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
Same here, without a hard reset I'm going to be very careful what I change.

Plus, I like Snapvue, and Quickmenu gets me anything else I need.
[Shift General] rpawly:
Just a FYI,

im testing sling player for one of the members and it really ate the program and storage memory up on the device down to 8meg storage and 7 meg program after installing.

SD support anyone :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
pawel,

what do you think about the black bars?? those are really eating up screen real estate.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I think you and me are excused for this test :)

ehemmmm, who is the third one in the list? ;)
[Shift General] rpawly:
ya hehe we took one for the team already, I know there is no I in team but..............looking at a bricked winmo was pretty ugly and helpless, not being able to recover
[Shift General] michael85:
just got my device in the bootloader.

see attachment, just open this on wm side.

problem is that the screen stays black (JUST LIKE THE STARTUP OF WM SIDE)
[Shift General] rpawly:
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[Shift General] michael85:
thanks ;) was already editing it, but you were too fast :D
[Shift General] Pawel062:
u need realvga for it. man the shift is in so bad need of modding.

here is how realvga works as far as i know:

realvga tells wm to stop using the 192 resources that make everything 192 dpi. instead it tells it to use the ones in the cab for eather 96 or 128 dpi. are u guys installing both realvga cabs? the realvga app AND the resources for 128 or 96dpi?

check the threads on athena forums to make sure. if u werent then u know now why it didnt work.
[Shift General] rpawly:
can somone post the files necessary to get pocket office loaded, pword and pexcel

we also need to get the file associations into the registry so u can open from emai attachments.
[Shift General] fatouraee:
Here is the cab that installs office2007 mobile... http://rapidshare.com/files/99127595/office2007.CAB.html
[Shift General] rpawly:
thx fatouraee

6megs :/

wow we REALLY REALLY need SDHC card support like 2 days ago!!
[Shift General] rpawly:
can someone post a lnk file to the brightness settings in winmo
[Shift General] rpawly:
If your winmo says your running low on space prss ok to clear up some space BE CAREFULL.............It erases stuff in the my documents folder!!!!!!!
[Shift General] parkertseng:
can any one kindly solve the issue for me please!

many thanks again!
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Here goes......

And this page explains how to do it...

http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...the_programs_in_your_set&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
[Shift General] sbueschi:
1. How to install the *.cab file on WM side? I always get an error saying about the certificate.

Edit the registry as described in this thread by Daniel earlier to enable WM to execute cab files

2. How to install quickmenu on WM side?

Email the exe to yourself (exe extension removed so it does not get blocked by your mailsystem, rename it back to .exe as soon as you have saved it)

then execute it

3. If I uncheck the Snapvue from the items to be shown on today, what will happen?

dont do that, your today screen will be empty - some of us suffered a whole day... read posting 171, enable those first.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Exactly. Dont forget to email too the two dll that must be beside to quickmenu.exe....
[Shift General] Vs1979:
Regarding the SD drivers, I will give these a go if some one can upload a set. I did notice that at least sdbus.dll was quite considerably smaller than the file on my Kaiser. Hopefully its these minor dll changes that'll be enought to detect the SD card successfully.

Ive compared great chunks of the registry and compared to my Dutty's ROM for Kaiser, they are very similar in regards to entries for SD cards etc.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
It would be nice if possible. Access to SD and GPS would bring us gps navigation, etc. Access to GPS will be possible, I am sure. We only have to get the drivers working. But I am not very sure about shared devices between winmo and vista, like BT, WIFI and SD. Obviously one side should control the device (probably vista) and the other one should act as client but It needs software to do it and I am not sure about it.....
[Shift General] 127.0.0.1:
GPS

I did try the HTCGPSTool provided in the dev tools, but no luck. I can connect on COM 8, but it hangs winmo. I also tried other versions HTCGPStool.exe for the qualcom chip, but still nothing.

Is there an associated driver that I am missing? I am worried that the antenna is not connected. If that is the case I would be willing to try to connect it if possible.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
The driver isnt installed. Same thing happened with HTC trinity. I am sure someone will know how to add the driver....
[Shift General] Vs1979:
I never got into any of the ROM Cooking projects, so I was just interested in knowing if there is anywhere to download for example the entirely unpacked Kaiser ROM or another of the QUALCOMM chipset devices. I have no qualms with trying to load most of the missing drivers and reg settings to see if there is any device connections.

My Clearstorage let me reset to a vanilla build again, So I'm going to test putting this in as a service instead of a Startup app. Can cancel every reboot, but will hopefully give me the chance to reset if something hasnt quite worked.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Good luck¡:)
[Shift General] killer_t:
A good idea it's to add a Vista executable can to start clearstorage.exe..
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Yep, I ve tried it. I unassambled ShagCtrldll.dll and there are interesting api functions, like reset, installcertificate, etc, but there isnt any tool to execute remote programs. In order to execute a program on the device using RAPI (very easy) first must be set a usb connection. We know how to set this connection from winmo side using usbtool but I dont know how to do it from vista side. If we get it using any of the debug tools for vista side then I will do a little program that executes ClearStorage.exe from vista side....:D
[Shift General] Vs1979:
Also does anybody know anything about finding and unlocking Extended ROMs at all. Like on most of the phones they store install apps on them. If the Shift has one, and can be easily unlocked and updated then this maybe a way to automate the rebuild with disabling the "Snapvue" functionality without having to send files over data.

Currently I am living in Switzerland and the data tariff for my UK SIM is obviously void (and as a temporary worker getting data packages is almost impossible), so after a £400+ phone bill, my preference is to keep emailing to a minimum, even with the solution for disabling snapvue, you would still need to at minimum send over USBTool to allow access from Vista.

So any ideas RE extended ROM, I'd be happy to try...
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Its related with modify HKLM\System\StorageManager....
[Shift General] Vs1979:
OK have just done some quick reading. Appears that the Kaiser does not actually have or use an Extended ROM. To this effect, do we believe that the Shift may have also followed this design.

Which leads us back to gaining access via bootloader etc I presume....
[Shift General] parkertseng:
Hi

Regarding the cab file on WM side, I read the post from Daniel, it said I have edit the registry.

I was confuse which registry I should edit? Vista side or WM side?

Since I can't run any cab files before edit the registry, how do get to install regedit on WM side

in order to run the cab?

Can some one kindly explain steps in detail?

On the quickmenu issue, where can I find the quickmenu file?

from WM side in Shift or from other mobile device?

Thanks for the reply!
[Shift General] thaihugo:
anybody found a game properly working on WM side? have decaled graphics or touchscreen. Anybody found a working replacment for gx.dll?
[Shift General] killer_t:
Daniel you will able to play windows media player mobile?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
WMPlayer isnt on the rom. We need a rom dump from kaiser or any other and copy the files \windows\wm*.*.....
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
You need to edit the registry on the WinMo side.

You can download Schaps Registry Editor from here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=347178

Unpack it on your pc using winrar.

Rename the REGIST~1.001 file to RegistryEditor (no file extension) and email that to yourself. In WinMo, save it from the email - when you do this rename it to RegistryEditor.exe. You can then run it.

QuickMenu can be downloaded here -

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-quickmenu-v2-7.html
[Shift General] killer_t:
we can reactivate all function with dump?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
hehe, posible but not easy. Some programs requires files and registry additions. In my opinion 64 MB is too small space to put Full WM6.1. We will have to choose between components.....
[Shift General] rpawly:
in doing my battery tests im having to remove programs to install a new program, i loaded 1 mp3 and maxed out the memory lol SD support is vital to everything we are doing.

I mean my treo has more memory than the shift

Shift Storage Mem: 37 / Program 43

Treo Storage Mem: 57 / Program 48

And from what i understand the treo doesnt have much memory lol
[Shift General] rpawly:
I would test and retest this extensively DONT BRICK your baby
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Yep, we need URGENTLY a ROM in order to flash it to Vista or there could be many returns to shop.....So be very very very careful....:o
[Shift General] michael85:
I thought there were people who had a beta rom or something?

Maybe that person can share it with us and we can extract it to look at it :)
[Shift General] Pantaloonie:
The 'Shift Project' members have an early ROM for the Shift, ask one of them.
[Shift General] cmonex:
we have the rom but cannot release it as is.

we can provide you with some files from it though.

what is needed?
[Shift General] cmonex:
excellent. someone finally tried enterbootloader.

you can also run it on vista side, but needs the usb connection to WM, then just execute a RUU to enter bootloader.

are you able to connect to the bootloader via mtty in vista? i posted mtty earlier in this thread

if yes... then only one task is remaining before we can fully make the shift a normal WM6 device.

and this is... find a way to enter bootloader using key combination during reset. i.e. without bootable WM6.

p.s.: if mtty is working... can you tell me what this command reports: info 7
[Shift General] cmonex:
well, you are right, though you can easily hard reset with bootable OS. the issue is how to hard reset without bootable OS. there must be a way, just need to find it ;)
[Shift General] cmonex:
only replace it if you first install the required certs for it. did PK tell you that?

otherwise snapvue will just stop working

also, replace whole snapvue, not just the dll

but if you pay attention to these things, the end result will be nice; it'll keep snapvue and allow you access to WM too
[Shift General] cmonex:
you have to enter bootloader and using mtty, set the correct debug flags
[Shift General] rpawly:
Well im nearing the end of the road with HTC Support.

I am in contact with the developers from Taiwan.

They have told me the following:

1. There is no hardware method of performing a hard reset on the shift's winmo side.

2. That if they determine that the winmo side is corrupt, one would have to return the device to HTC (your local HTC support) and they would perform a ROM reload of the device.

3. They will not release the ROM to me to fix myself.

4. They are considering and checking with higher ups if they can give me the procedures they use for flashing the ROM. (I told them i could get the ROM 3rd party) They are quoting a security issue with releasing the ROM.

So there you have it. BE CAREFUL.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Well, I am sure that Shift project will release a rom soon. Where did you found pocket internet explorer?
[Shift General] rpawly:
i attached it to the battery test page
[Shift General] cmonex:
oh why do you believe this total bull****. :P

i already noticed many people at an OEM company often don't know what the device is like at all.

1) you can clearly see people here have performed a hard reset just fine! the SPL supports clearstorageflag anyway.

2) nope, you can reflash yourself as soon as shift project can release a hardSPL (needs a test device of course). then of course custom roms!! but project needs a device for that.

3) who cares? :P especially with hardspl. but these people are so nasty... i have tricked many such companies before and worked out how to flash the devices (i'm not talking about HTC devices now, various WM and winCE devices).

4) you should not have told them you can get the rom third party, because a) it is not true *yet* b) better not to tell them such things.

what i'd like is dump the SPL from one of the devices you people have. so i can see exactly which SPL you got, which features it has etc. if someone wants to help then please contact me in a PM.

if it is an SPL that has a hidden hard reset key combo we just need to figure that out then (it is possible to find out either by copious disasm or by trying keys randomly).

if it doesn't have the function compiled in, there is still a way to solve that.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Happy to listen it.....:)
[Shift General] rpawly:
cmonex

the only rebuttal i have to your post is that this is not a rebranded device and its the manufactuer's developers saying there is no hardware button press hard-reset.

The rest i agree with, was just letting people know the extent of the information provided to me. :)

And that some people may not be aware that there is not a quick fix if they brick their device :)........ as of today
[Shift General] cmonex:
oh, don't worry, even original manufacturer (OEM) people can be dumb, as i said in my previous post... many of them are not willing to release a ROM *at all*, and then you have to find out how to make one and flash it. (i've done that on quite a few devices before so i can prove it is possible :D )

i got a couple of PM's, should be enough for now, thanks! :)
[Shift General] rpawly:
pm is there
[Shift General] rpawly:
Is everyone else battling the storage issue???

Im fighting with winmo on this every day.
[Shift General] rpawly:
Has anyone loaded the office2007.cab that was posted here?

all hte programs work except for xcel. I get a small hour glass then nothing.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I think the only way to increase storage size is having access to SD Card. It would be nice to run tomtom/igo/sygic on snapvue size.....:D
[Shift General] danielherrero:
how much size¿ where is the link?:o nI know it, I am a little blinded....
[Shift General] Vs1979:
You can download Schaps Registry Editor from here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=347178

Unpack it on your machine using something like winrar.

Rename the REGIST~1.001 file to RegistryEditor.exe and email that to yourself. It will not need installing as a cab that way.

Hope this helps...
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Works¡¡ thanksll.....
[Shift General] Vs1979:
They should appear under settings. Bottom Right Icon on SnapVue home page.
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Snapvue executing Bandswitch to keep direct push with 2G and save battery.....
[Shift General] firedup:
Thats really neat. How did you do it?
[Shift General] danielherrero:
I emailed to myself the cab installer and followed the instructions to execute cab files (changing the registry)
[Shift General] danielherrero:
Opera mini on snapvue....
[Shift General] danielherrero:
...and quickmenu brings to us the start button.....
[Shift General] rpawly:
I followed it step by step but says that set cannot copy start menu destination is the same as the source folder

is there 1 step missing?

nevermind its in the same dir i was going insdie of start menu dir
[Shift General] firedup:
COOL!!!!! So you now have full internet access on the snapvue side? Does it load also if you click on a link enbeded within an email?
[Shift General] firedup:
I too did this and then slapped myself. Its not the settings folder within the start menu folder - copy it into the settings folder inside the root (the windows folder) ;)
[Shift General] citivolus:
AWESOME! Can someone please try installing TCPMP and play some videos? How about Slingplayer?
[Shift General] foxmeister:
Is that Mini or Opera Mobile? I've been trying to download the trial edition of Opera Mobile all day today, but it doesn't seem to work for me. Opera Mini is Java based, so does SnapVue already have the JVM?

Cheers,

Dave
[Shift General] rpawly:
you can import contacts now using windows live, enabled with the start menu hack. get your contacts into windows live online, then tell it to sync.
[Shift General] citivolus:
that's so awesome! Can you please report on the performance of it within Snapvue? Is the information readable or do you need to zoom in and out? How smooth is the scrolling? Are there any physical keys on the Shift that trigger the Soft Keys?

I'm so close now to ordering one given that we can finally install apps within Snapvue.
[Shift General] rpawly:
how are you guys able to email yourself a *.exe every server ive tried has chopped the attachment out.
[Shift General] foxmeister:
I renamed the file so that it had no extension, and then just gave it its extension back when I saved it from the email.

Regards,

Dave
[Shift General] rpawly:
Better yet i have emailed myself pim.vol from my treo and saved it to personal dir then using file explorer copied it to the my device dir after renaming the default pim.vol to pimold.vol.

All my phones contacts are there after a reboot.