yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sleeps:
what did i do wrong?

First of all, greetings and thanks to everyone who made WM6 possible on hx4700!

I noticed that my device shows only 54.33 program memory? On your screenshot it shows 100 and something. How to enable this?

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SleepyPrince:
If you didn't add your ram to 128mb, that's normal
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sleeps:
You mean physically welded another memory chip?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Well possibly, but I would not recommend doing it yourself!!;)

http://www.pocketpctechs.com
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
MaffooClock:

Interesting. If people are seeing the PDAVIET splash and I'm not, your explanation may be why. When I reflashed my 4700 with the latest ROM, my previous flash may not have been undone. So thank you for the experiments.

Because of the capabilities of the 4700 (e.g. no phone), I believe this ROM can be made even leaner. I will try to repeat your steps and fix the flash the next time.

Do you think reflashing with a Kozhura WM6 ROM would accomplish the same thing? Even the thought of reverting back to the HP WM5 disaster causes me to shudder.

Regards.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sleeps:
uhhh, so everything os OK with mine :D

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
I did the upgrade from PPC techs and my 4700 works fine, been over a year since they did it and no effects at all.

Also posted the new Sanjay 6.1 build to my website for those that don't want to use rapidshare.

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vivi:
sanjay1951,

Great work.

Does this ROM has all rgu files or you deleted them all ?

vivi

Edit : I dumped it , no rgu files.

vivi
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Thank you Vivi. I've found your kitchen to be excellent as well and a great help for ROM tuning. I also read your tips including ones to remove the RGU files, but PDAVIET already had these deleted so I did not need to remove them. I still feel though that for the 4700 capabilities, there are other files that can be removed to free up more space. I will experiment more to see what I can do with this.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Thank you dpdurst for posting the rom to your site. I don't have a site so I appreciate you doing this. It's the contribution of many and sharing that makes this better for all of us.

Regards.

Oh...and Happy Anniversary!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vivi:
Thanks Sanjay,

rgu files are needed in using ROM Kitchen.

If no rgu files in ROM, no way to re-packages from that ROM and use ROM Kitchen.

I want to try this ROM but I also want to add my favorite programs in this ROM also.If no rgu files,then I have to manually add and edit it.

I am working with WM6.1 ROM for ASUS P525 and fixing WiFi error with no success , so no time to build Hx4700 WM6.1 from scratch.

BTW,thanks.

vivi
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] storino03:
Someone should post the ATI drivers from the hx4700 on here.

--James
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SleepyPrince:
Yes, actually is replace the 64MB memory
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hello grayme,

Absolutely you can cook your own rom. I used the base PDAVIET rom and maimach's tools from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=249836 to make mine. It's very easy. Vivi may try to make a kitchen from this but from what he says, it will be difficult without RGU files.

Because people prefer plain roms I left office intact for these shares, but it is easy to remove PPT or other components using maimach's tools for your own customization. I would encourage you and others to try these tools. If you come up with something you want to share, I would be happy to add it to post#1.

Algasystems already made my initial rom better and it is only through experimentation by lots of people that we will find a way to replace Kozhura's talent.

Good luck.

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Charles,

Mon Dieu, mon Dieu. Vous êtes mes collègues pas mon fils eh!

Since both PDAVIET and Kozhura's 6.1 roms came from Microsoft and appear to have identical BT drivers, I'm not sure if we will find a cure for your BT phone issues. So I fear that this may be a "feature" of 6.1. Perhaps earlier drivers from 6.0 would help. If they were stable, maybe there's a way to import them into this rom. I can try but no guarantees. I would also encourage others to try such tests too.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gregy74:
I can use my N80 like data modem in all versions of 6.1 ROM. The phone and pda are connected over BT. I just didn't try Algasystem version. So, I don't have any BT problems.

I have just one big problem. I can't install Resco today plugin. It is installed, but I can't see plugin on my pda.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
Don't know for sure but, this article might help:

http://www.mobilepractices.com/2007/10/internet-pass-through-connectivity.html
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
So is it possible to boot FAMILIAR inside WM6 without the ratoc HD ? (off topic, sorry :o )

edit: found it: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/RamdiskRescue very cool!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Linus_18:
YOU CAN BOOT LINUX INSIDE WM6; NO NEED FOR HARD DISKS, LINUX CAN BE INSTALLED ON A SD CARD OR A CF CARD (exactly on separate partition of SD or of CF, made by RAM RESCUE, other remaining existing files on SD or CF aren't damaged)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cjean:
Hello Sanjay,

I'm posting to let you know about my latest findings. It appears so far that BT Phone manager would be the culprit. When I'm using this utility to connect to my phone, everything is slowing down and sometimes PPC crash. Not using it, seems that everything is going well and speedy.

As a side note, not related to BT, my PPC freeze for an unknown reason about 1 time or two per day. I don't know if other users experienced this. I'm taking care to kill apps I don't use and had about 10mb free when this happened.

Let me know if you think about something.

Charles
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] detty:
The info on that link may have helped. Adding the referenced registry key with a value of 3 seemed to improve the sync process. Values of 0 and 1 still gave erratic connectivity.

Overall, the WM6.1 seems snappier. One minor improvement I noted over previous ROMs was that the icons in the Today drop down are now persistent after soft resets. I previously had to go into the Settings|Menu page and select then deselect any program entry to restore the icons.

Thanks,

Dave
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ankhazam:
Does this ROM support WPA-AES encryption/authentication algorythm?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
Hmm, are there any cooks currently still working on this ROM?

I have ported WM6.1 from 'scratch' (Kaiser UK WM6.1 build, 19199, which as far as I know is the 'original' 19199 leaked build) to eliminate various issues I ran into with the available cooked ROM's..

If there is not someone maintaining the hx4700 WM6.1 release, I can put together a new build?

Funny thing how my years-old hx4700 continues to surpass new devices in terms of performance..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cerebros:
The little engine that still can...

I'm very interested in newly cooked 6.1 roms. Please post/share in a new thread clearly stating the differences with other roms.

Thanks for all of your hard work guys,.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
What do I read? You are offering to work on a WM6.1 ROM but you are asking for our permission? I believe I speak for the wholle community when I wholeheartedly give you my permission and my blessings.

Good luck and keep us posted.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Da-G,

Go for it!! You don't need permission !!! As I mentioned in an earlier post, it is only through experimentation by many that we will replace the talent of Kozhura. I'm not sure what more I can do to improve the current rom but will continue to test fixes for problems reported by others. However I'm not sure I will be successful with a better product.

I think it is terrific that you have been able to port from the Kaiser, but you should know that the PDAVIET is also 2.61.20 build 19199. I would be happy to link to yours in post#1 if you have something you want to share. You can also start a new thread if you wish and let us know what it is.

Best wishes. I look forward to your results.

Regards,

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Hi albertorrent,

Sorry, I missed your this post earlier. This is really good. Noticeably improves speed. I will try to build this in.

Thank you for this link.

Sanjay
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
Fantastic! Go for it Da_G!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
Really I just love ROM Cooking, and I also love my hx4705, such a powerhouse, i feel like so much more life is still left in it.. any device that I can drop from waist high to concrete more times than I have fingers, without a case, and nothing but chipped paint and some flying memory cards deserves some love :)

The only thing holding it back is the flash chip used, it's not up to par with WM6's memory design, worked really well with the 128mb upgrade for wm2003.

Anyway, I just didn't want to put forth the effort if there were enough maintainers already, I have my hands full with my other ROM's :)

But since I have used this device every day for several years since it's release, I feel I owe it to myself to play around with it :)

Are you sure the PDAVIET ROM is based on WM6.1 Professional 19199? It seems to be based on WM6.1 Classic 19716, from screenshots..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Could you please assist me with where I am going wrong! :o

I downloaded the tools and used the following commands:

prepare_imgfs.exe <ROM name>.nbf
viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin

(Amend what is in the dump\ dirtectory...)

BuildImgfs.exe
make_imgfs.exe <ROM name>.nbf

Burn the resulting nbf with bootloader and the ROM just doesn't work right (boots without the 'getting started' then is just useless). :o (Even when I didn't change anything)

I've never got to grips with nbf's, nba's, etc. so is that an issue?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
I've been stepping through the ROM piece by piece, one thing I noticed is that no-one altered boot.rgu and re-compiled the boot.hv loaded in XIP, there are a number of new settings in WM6.1 that are not being utilized as a result. But most other XIP files have been successfully ported (including nk.exe, big job there!) - Also there are a number of superfluous settings contained in XIP that don't seem like they should be there (Do we really need wifi+touchpad+dockware+todaypanel to work at XIP start? First ROM I have seen do this)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Looks like we have a new guru in the house! :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Da_G:
Haha, by no means a guru, but I have spent several months trying to learn from them..

Re: the issue with rebuilding the ROM, that should have worked, unless you're missing a step I can't think of, it is 3 am here :) Typically .nba outputted from make_imgfs.exe would need to be converted to .nbf, but bootloader can handle both types of files, so not neccessary. Not sure what the problem is there.

Successfully modified XIP in algasystems ROM, brought in the new registry settings (and removed the 'junk' that was put there by HP), updated filesys.exe and coredll.dll.. seems to be working great. Now on to the less difficult, more fun parts :)

Being familiar with the compaction process and filesys.exe, and remembering some comments by someone on the WM team, I thought to look it up again, http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/03/16/552996.aspx - there he talks about a pre-registry, and keys that the user cannot change etc. etc., well those keys are in the XIP's bootstrap registry (boot.hv) and I just successfully modified it, as I have with other devices, so i'm wondering if it's worth tooling around in there a bit.. I may take some time to experiment later.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
I sync mine with Bluetooth...you need to first pair the two devices in windows and then in activesync wait for the program to check each com port and try each one until it connects alternatively find out which one windows uses when paired.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] polmone:
Hi,

registry clean with PM, IE cache in CF and clean, all big prog in CF, memory usage low, reser or no reset, sometimes, without reason, PPC go very slow...

p.s. sorry for my english, i'm Italian and english grammar it is not my best quality :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] aegidios2:
...

You're right, with speed booster i've gain some speed but always lot of slowdown...

Also i've noticed that if you remove the bluetooth icon in today tray the device display a white screen for approx 3 seconds when power on... strange...

Is there someone who don't experience those probs with another rom or build (I use Vivi 6.1 non-clean winmob build 20764.1.1.1), I want to try another one but I don't know what to choose...

oh and thanks for the bluetooth trick, but I'm on vista and I don't found where are the serial port options in mobile device center (I've already etablished a pair between my pc and the hx)

Many thanks again...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
im using sanjays v3lite rom for well over 6 months now... works very well...i use the 4700 everyday as a diary and keep manuals etc for work on it.. quicker and easier to read than getting the laptop out... i added opera and foxit pdf reader.. i use resco keyboard and ilauncher with today warrior.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] aegidios2:
I trying Sanjay SL61V3 since today and no problem yet , also I've found a better synch with mobile device center than before...

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MagooChris:
Did you manage to get one of these? I've found a place here in Australia that is selling them cheap: $49 http://www.pressdigital.com.au/phon...uetooth-gamepad-smartphone-special-p-245.html

I would almost by this myself... if I had something other than point and click games that I was interested in...

I may have asked this myself before, but does anyone know if it's possible to upgrade the Ram of this device without having to send it over to America? I don't have the money for that, but the low memory is starting to annoy me...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] polmone:
Bluetooth problem

Hi all,

i've new problem, with new rom installed, Kozhura with modification by Ramsses (v1g), bluetooth sometimes don't turn on...

Any suggestion?

TNX
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dk75:
Do you uses any SPB application?

I've had bloetooth problem with "SPB Wirless Monitor trial" and "SPB Mobile Shell trial".
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pda1980:
When you say you are using the "Vivi Clean" ROM are you refering to the 4MB PP WM6.1 Vivi Official Style ROM? Thanks in advance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] droideka907:
Bluetooth

I have a same problem with you.. after installing SPB Mobile Shell 3.0.0, and 3.0.0 beta, Bluetooth is not working.. I can't turn it on.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
do a search . i cant remember which pager its on but there are several references to deleting the old bluetooth dll's and replaceing them with either an older or newer set (cant remember which too many posts to read over too many months...lol). i havent had a BT problem with Sanjay1951's V3 lite rom...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dk75:
Yup. This one: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3232627&postcount=1585
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] polmone:
Yes i've spb backup and shell installed...

I download Sanjay1951's V3 lite rom...why it's more than 125mb? Other rom are 54mb...i've a 4700 whit 65mb ram and 128 rom, can i install too?

TNX
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pda1980:
I just wanted to say that I have flashed more than a few different WM6.1 ROMs and I have found the newest PhamQuang 20764.1.4.3 build to be the best. I also have an x51v and the PhamQuang seems to be faster than the WM6.1 ROM I use on my x51v. In case anybody is wondering, I am using an Ipaq hx4700 with the stock 64MB of RAM.

I like Phamquangs 20764.1.4.3 the best because I haven't experienced much of the filesys.exe problem. I have tried Sanjays SL61V3, Sanjays SL61V3-Lite, Vivi's Clean, Kozhura with Ramsses mod, and the latest Alkor ROM, and every single one have had pretty major lag due to the filesys.exe at some time or another for no specific reason and even after hard resets. I haven't had the filesys.exe issue with PhamQuangs newest build except for when installing programs and a soft reset after the installation is complete brings the device back to full speed. Every WM5 and above ROM for the hx4700 will suffer from filesys.exe when installing programs, but I have had the filesys.exe kick in out of nowhere on every ROM that I tried except the new PhamQuang build(Knock on Wood). Thanks to all the people involved in development of these ROMs and a special thanks to PhamQuang for making the best ROM in my opinion.

I have a link below to many different builds and thanks to the owner of the website for providing all the ROMs. It includes every ROM that I have tried except for the Vivi Clean and Sanjay Lite. The Phamquang 20764.1.4.3 is near the bottom of the "Windows Mobile 6.1 Roms Hx4700" list. The website also has Chris's bootloader labeled "Bootloader for XP/Vista" near the top of the page, which has worked for every ROM that I have tried. For most of the ROMs, the hx4700 gets stuck on "Clearing Data" on the initial hard reset after the Flash, but all you have to do is Soft Reset if the device is stuck on "Clearing Data", and then do another Hard Reset after the screen comes up after the Soft Reset and the hx4700 will boot the newly installed ROM without a problem. If you have never flashed a ROM the website also has instructions near the bottom of the page.

http://wm6.winmobile.us/hpmain.htm
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] aegidios2:
Hi PDA1980,

So I've tried PhamQuang 20764.1.4.3 yesterday and found it a lot slower than Sanjays SL61V3 on my device...

Games are very slow (K-rally) etc and apps take a lot of time to run (pi8, softmaker office....) start menu take a while to expand and despite soft and hard reset....

So I come back to Sanjay one...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lgiang1983:
a stupid question. how can i up a rom in nbo file. i often up rom in nbf file with 130mb. anyone can helf me?

sorry about my English.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hx4700_Enthusiast:
I Also Prefer PhamQuang 20764.1.4.3

I have to agree with you. See my posts 1566, 1577 and 1587.

Perhaps the reason some people have issues is that they didn't flash to

HP WM2003 hx4700 Rom - 1.0 JUST PRIOR to flashing to PhamQuang's 20764.1.4.3

I believe the 130 MB "hx4700_11008_ENG_RC_AKU26.nbf" does some important "magic".

Since the PhamQuang ROM install, I have also installed...

Ramsses wififix

Spb Screenshot

Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX

Spb Pocket Plus

MS RDP v6.1

...and that WPA fix (wzcsvc.dll ?) Can't recall the post / or place I found it.

This ROM works well for me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
You can find the WPA fix here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/208118203/wm6_wpa_fix.zip
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pda1980:
Sorry, it didn't work good for you. I don't really play many games on my Pocket PCs, except for simple puzzle and card games. It seems that different people have different experiences with ROMs upgraded from WM2003. I had an Axim x50v for a little while and I couldn't find a good ROM for it. It originally had WM2003 and every WM5 and above ROM that I had tried had horrible lag out of nowhere because of the filesys.exe kicking in and every device upgraded from WM2003 will suffer from the filesys.exe problem at some point or another because of the way the devices handle memory. I really wish the newer programs all worked on WM2003 because I would have just stuck with that, but none of the newer web browsers work on WM2003. The Dell Axim x51v eliminates the filesys.exe problem because it comes stock with WM5, so the device handles memory differently than the x50v and other devices that come with WM2003, so there is no filesys.exe problem.

I didn't have any luck with Sanjays ROMs. The Sanjay-Lite version seemed to run better than the regular, but it was missing key components because my S2P music program wouldn't work on the Sanjay-Lite version. I like the new PhamQuang build so much because it seems to be the most stable and fastest ROM that I have tried and all my programs work good on it, including Skyfire, which didn't work on a different ROM that I had tried. I haven't done all that much testing because I also use my Axim x51v PDA. So far, I'm pretty impressed with WM6.1 on the Ipaq hx4700 and it seems well worth while. I had serious doubts about WM6.1 on the hx4700 after having bad luck with my old x50v, but the Ipaq hx4700 runs much better from my experience.

Anyway, good luck and hopefully someone comes up with a ROM that is consistent for everybody, but for now I'm sticking with PhamQuangs newest build and if everything keeps going as smoothly as it is right now, I will be sticking with this ROM and I won't ever be trying any different ROMs.

By the way, if anybody has an x51v or plans on getting an x51v, I recommend Lenny's A07 Dell Stock WM6.1 ROM. It feels like it's been factory tested and I have been using it for awhile without any problems. It isn't quite as snappy as the new PhamQuang build for the hx4700, but it's very stable and you never have to worry about filesys.exe kicking in because the x51v handles memory different than the hx4700, so you will never have any problems with the filesys.exe no matter what ROM that you choose to use. Lenny also has newer builds that run a little faster than the A07, but after trying the newer ROMs, I have found Lenny's A07 Dell Stock to be the best WM6.1 ROM for the Dell Axim x51v.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] aegidios2:
Hi,

Maybe I've made something wrong...

"Perhaps the reason some people have issues is that they didn't flash to

HP WM2003 hx4700 Rom - 1.0 JUST PRIOR to flashing to PhamQuang's 20764.1.4.3"

I have upraded from sanjay v3 rom... so I will make a second test (first downgrade in wm2003 and upgrade to PhamQuang 20764.1.4.3, thats right ?)

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pda1980:
I didn't upgrade directly from WM2003. I upgraded to the new Phamquang build from the Sanjay ROM, I think. I know for sure that I didn't upgrade to the new Phamquang directly from WM2003 because the new Alkor was the first ROM that I flashed from WM2003 and I never went back to WM2003. I used Chris's bootloader for every single flash I did, though, so make sure you use Chris's bootloader when you flash it. If your device gets stuck on "Clearing Data" on the initial Hard Reset after the Flash, don't worry. Just Soft Reset the device if it gets stuck on "Clearing Data" and then do another Hard Reset after the screen comes up from the Soft Reset and the ROM will boot up fine. The link to the website with Chris's bootloader is below and it's labeled "Bootloader for XP/Vista"

http://wm6.winmobile.us/hpmain.htm
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] plantin:
I flashed my ipaq 4700 to PhamQuang's 20764.1.4.3 rom

works well

but problem is I can not find the

Contacts app

.

in fact there is no addrbook.exe in windows

has anyone come across this problem

how can I resolve this?

thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pda1980:
I have Contacts in my programs. Maybe Contacts isn't showing up in your programs because it's on the Start Menu list?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] plantin:
There is probably some conflict with another app. on my device

because I hard reset and it worked,

then after restoring all my apps it disapeared again

which app could cause this.

never had this with other roms

thanks