yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello always that I change or remove my batt ,clock and date was over , I check my back up batt and its ok , 1,4 volts and good current , dont worry with the bu batt, istnt the trouble ,Also i connected a external BU batt 1,2 volts and its the same when you remove batt, clock and date are missing ISNT A BU BATT TROUBLE .........its rom or these values arent in non volatile mem ,this happends also with HP WM 5
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] guachimingo:
Hi,

From Ramsses:

http://rapidshare.com/files/12024294...19588.zip.html see post #841

Link is down, please, refresh.

Thx.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MagooChris:
Hello all,

New user here, been using my hx4700 for just over 3 years. While I was looking for a way to fix my broken sync port I read somewhere that a person had a hx4700 with WM6... and I'm like, no, surely not, HP decided not to do any more work on the PDA (and frankly their last rom update to WM5 was pitiful) so this made me curious and it led me here. I’ve browsed this thread a bit, but I haven’t managed to find what the differences are between the different roms. Am I just blind? If not, can anyone tell me anything about the different ones? I have a bit of time as I have to get the sync port replaced before I can do anything useful with it, but I thought I’d post now to get some input from the consensus…

Seeing as I only have the HP WM5 rom on there, would anyone like me test how the upgrade works for a particular rom, or does it not matter what the old system was?

Thanks to anyone who helps :)

MagooChris
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
hi MagooChris, it does not matter what you had on the ipaq aas the rom is reflashed. there is not a major difference between roms. some have had a bit more trimmed from the registry , uesless reg keys that are not used etc... some have different drivers for wifi or newer xip versions. not sure about what that means.. i have been using sanjays v3lite rom for over 6 months no problems. it doesnt have win mobile media player or pocket IE in it . i added TCPMP and Opera 9.5 and i find it works for me. it works with my wireless router (netgear) but i only use wep not wpa . best reason for me to upgrade to WM6.1 was A2DP which means i can use my nokia BT501 BT headset now. sweet BT stereo sound !!!! i watch movies on TCPMP direct d/l from the net no shrinking for the ipaq and dont disturb the wife....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hi MagooChris

You will have a big difference , HP Wm5 its unusable , all new roms have no big diff , but compared with WM5 yes its day and night . I have installed Algasys rom with no troubles , but I think that the Sanjay litle version its the best choice , Why ? because in most new roms PIE ( Internet explorer) its too bad , same for W Media Player , then you must install new soft same as TCPMP and opera 9,5 , you dont need anymore IE and WMP in your rom ,Sanjay litle rom dont have these soft and others that you don t need , you have more ram availiable for others pourposes . I think same as you I dont know why we cant explain diff between new roms Its time to do .

Post if you need more help from us

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rawrrawr:
Are there any solutions to this?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rawrrawr:
Anyone have any ideas on this?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] B4RG34ARS3:
If the battery is ok then it may be the lever for the b/u battery is broken. See my post above (#1233 ) for replacement battery. It's located bottom right. The slider where the padlock is on the battery cover activates it. If you take off the battery you should be able to see a tiny lever through the cut out, if not chances are it's broken and impossible to replace, I know I've looked high and low for another, can't find one suitable to do the job. I ended up soldering the contacts with some wire, doesn't fix the clock resetting though, but it did enable the ipaq to switch on. Your ipaq not turning on will be a future symptom when the switch itself fails.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
As I know, not , also the backlight settings are missing , if I set to automatic when I change batt comes in normal mode . Its strange , if the machine have a RTC (real Time clock) its suppoused that its powered by BU batt when the main isnt present. I repeat you , I test my BU batt , its OK in voltage and current , I connect other in BUB (back up batt ) contacts with same values 1,4 V , same trouble. Perhaps alls 4700s have the same troubles in this question . If somebody knows this ,please post ;thanks

PD: switch have two states ? one when slider press it and other when main batt is out , connects BUB ?? If the switch drives the connection to the BUB when the main its out perhaps here we have the trouble , In this case the switch is an inverter with two states midle with up connected and midle with down connected is this true ??? I dont know but I dont think this because its a lot of time for change state, in this case values are missing too , for me its only one action , ON and OFF .........

Confirmed : I see inside the 4700 switch its only on , off , 2 active contacts , others two , for mounting only
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rawrrawr:
I need some help. I've got 2 programs installed that I can't seem to remove. I went to settings->remove programs but it says the program can't be removed and asks if I want to remove it from the list. I select yes but the program is still in the list and I still see the icons. One of these programs are the windows live messenger. I tried re-installing and removing, but to no available. For the other program, I couldn't even get it to re-install.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
You have to remove reg velues or if you have a backup make a hard reset .

First try with Mobile registry editor , you can see the entire 4700 reg in your desktop PC , find these values from the soft an delete then you dont have any trouble in delete the entire soft folder .

Other its a hard reset and if you have a previous backup ,simple restore

you cant delete because are some reg values that made this impossible
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rawrrawr:
Hmm tried removing the registries but didn't help. The clean reset was the only way. Had to reconfigure quite a lot of stuff and reinstall my softwares but its so much better not to have spoilt softwares lingering around.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Remember , the best way its always made a spb full backup before installing new soft , and if you will modify any of the sd card , save the folder in your pc before , spb and other backup soft only restore main storage and registry not cf or sd card files.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
FYI

After upgrading from 64 to 128 mb thru PPCTechs I have found that the K5R1g works perfectly. I did change the pp from 4.5 to 8. This seems to have made a dramatic difference in the speed (soft reset is almost instant)BT and wifi work great don't have a irda device to use to test it. But all in all this is the only 6.1 ROM that I could get

1-Constant smooth syncronization with active sync/wm devive center Vista and XP Pro)

2-NO empty notification bubbles.

3-BT connection with-HP latest keyboard, HP navigation, bluant speaker,phone modem

4-No erratic behavior ie:sudden soft resets, blinking icons

5-WIFI is great

I have installed

-RESCO Media Suite 2008 7.5(with today plugins)

-SPB Mobile Shell

-MSN Pocket PC (with today screen plugin)

-Coreplayer 1.25

-Westtek 5.1

-Pocket Mechanic

-HP Navigation with 2006 maps

Every single item works perfec!

Thank-you so much Ramsses and K I much prefer my 4700 over my 210 anyday!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MagooChris:
This may be a stupid question, but is that ROM or RAM size, or am I confusing the matter? (In the Memory page of the asset viewer it gives 2 different sizes).

Also, what WIFI security options are available with 6.1? I'd just install it myself and see but my hx4700 doesn't have a sync port and repairhppda hasn't shipped my replacement one yet :(

On that note, has anyone here had to replace the sync port themselves? Could anyone give me any advice?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] B4RG34ARS3:
I've attempted it a couple of times, it's hard work, very fiddly and you need very good eyesight. Mine isn't so good I used a jewellers loupe and a 0.5mm tip on the soldering iron. Some very fine solder (leaded preferably as it melts at a much lower temperature than the new non-lead variety) you need to be quick with soldering as you can easily lift the pads if you leave the heat on too long.

Just make sure you clean off the old solder the best you can, I used desolder braid with flux and brushed it away whilst applying heat. Try not to remove too much solder as you can use it to flow over the new contacts. I found it easier doing this as it's hard getting the right amount of solder on the iron. I've never had to work with SMT components before.

Just make sure you line up the contacts exactly and then solder the mounting posts, be careful not to put too much solder on as it will run into the contacts housing. Once it's fixed in place add a tiny amount of flux to the pins and hold them down with a needle or some similarly suitable fine tool while you solder. Starting from the left it doesn't matter if you bridge the first four but try not to if you can, just practice for further on, it's extremely important you don't bridge any of the other contacts. Set aside a few hours if your not comfortable doing it. I have to say the hardest part is taking off the old sync port without damaging the main board.

Hope this helps, I was lucky and it worked first time but it didn't fix my problem with the battery not charging.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MagooChris:
Hey thanks for that!

From what you've said here each of the pins need to be soldered on, is that right? from the looks of the old unit, there was only soldering on the sides of the port housing, and the pins seemed only to be touching. The old port had broken out of the solder that was on it. I found this out by opening it up and the port just fell out. The interesting part was that if I got the port on the right angle (aasuming that each of the pins touched the right spot) I could get it to sync & charge.

I guess I'll just have to see when the new port arrives :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] B4RG34ARS3:
Check this web page, it might help you out.

pinouts.ru/PDA/ipaq_22p_pinout.shtml
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zeshrek:
You can find it here

http://rapidshare.com/files/121151025/ROM_v2.01_B19588_HP4700_B19588.zip.html

or

http://rapidshare.com/files/128224247/ROM_v2.01_B19588_HP4700_B19588.zip.html

Or many other places

Just seek "ROM_v2.01_B19588_HP4700_B19588.zip" in google
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
Ipaq 614

Can I use this to upgrade my ipaq 614?

Thank-you

Sunday
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hi

If you read this big post you will see that its for Ipaq 4700 also in the first lines from the tutorial says for 4700 .

I think if you flash yours 614 with this roms probably you will make a beautifull brick .

regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigu1975:
The instruction for flashing 614C can be found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=425536

IMHO the best WM6.1 ROM is located here (v1.4 the flash method is the same as obove):

http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=...458697&usg=ALkJrhjYHrEshJk3z3oa49RuAaQPYyNJDg

Good luck.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] v2c7:
thanks for helpful tips
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] aemandien:
latest iPAQ hx4700 WM6.1 ROM?

Hi All

Haven't been here for a while now ... was actually checking up on another thread and thought the hx4700 WM6.1 "hype" died ...

Just a quick question ... what is the "latest and greatest" hx4700 ROM available (for 64MB hx4700)???

Has the "root" certificate problem been sorted out yet?

Any feedback would be great. Thanks

AJ
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] alaraf:
Sanjay1951, thank you for your ROM! I have successfully installed SL61V3_lite on my hx4700 and it works stable.

However, I have found two drawbacks.

1) I can not connect to the Internet using my mobile phone and Bluetooth connection.

I have clicked Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> "Add a new modem connection" in "My ISP" group and then in "Select modem" filed I have only 3 options: Bluetooth, Generic IrDA and Hayes Compatible on COM1:.

There is no Cellular Line and Cellular Line (GPRS) option required for GPRS connection.

2) I can not configure a new e-mail account in Pocket Outlook. I tried to create a new account from Menu -> Tools -> New Account. Every time I try to do it there is no any action.

Anybody know how to fix this issues?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] weldonjb:
Great Work

Great work guys!! I have given new life to my HX4700 based on all this great info. Sanjay, I used you ROM set, and it works like a champ, though I know (and you also say) that it only stands on the shoulders of giants.

Now I am in the hunt for mods for my device. With GBA, MAME, SNES and PSX games loaded, along with movies, music, DOOM, etc, I am in dire need of external buttons.

To that end, I have snagged (but not received yet) an IR keyboard from Ebay for less than $10 (soon to be hack fodder), and I have also bought the BGP100 Bluetooth Gamepad, though the first one that was delivered to me was intermittent at best. When it worked, it was a marvel, but I think the unit is damaged (and so does the vendor who is nicely replacing it).

We shall see what a little mad tinkering can do.

Also, has anyone been able to successfully write or find a driver to use a PS3 Dual Shock bluetooth controller with Windows Mobile yet?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
are you talking about the chainpus BT gamepad? if so where did you find to buy one? i cant find any in australia and none on ebay in aust...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MagooChris:
I just did a search for it in Australia and came up with about 3 online sellers that have it, and a distributor I use has it as well, so you can get it new in Australia for about $80 -100 :) It looks pretty good, except that I don't think that the hx4700 would fit in it...

For those who may be interested, I've received my sync port, now I just have to find someone in Melbourne who can solder it on for me...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] weldonjb:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MSI-Bluetooth-G...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

ebay was where I found mine
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
I got mine on ebay also...struggled to get it working but somehow got my hands on the latest driver vs 1.5 (i think) I have it so if anyone needs it please send me a message I'll mail you or something...

What I'm interested in is the PSX games emu's etc can you point me in the right direction.

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Yop.Solo:
Une ROM en français.

delvig showed me a link to a translated (in french) 6.1 ROM : http://www.ppccool.com/index.php?showtopic=9371

It's 98% translated (some words doesn't need translation) and rather well done, even if I'd have translated some sentences in other way but... I haven't had to do it so I keep it as this. :p

The ROM works well : same speed as Kozhura's, no battery leaks,... Well, no problem at all while a week of testing. :cool:

I don't know if it'a a new rom from scratch or if he started from a ROM of someone else... The author just thanks "vivi" for the kitchen.

For not english speaking people :
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] landsmarra:
Good day to all!

I am the proud new owner of a used HX4700-series device and although WM 5.0 is OK, I just yesterday found out that WM6.1 can be installed on it! The device is just great and I look forward to using the crap out of it with a new and improved OS!

I apologize for jumping in the game late here, but I do see that on the first page of this thread, there are numerous versions of WM6.1 created by different individuals. Can someone recommend a version that's stable and can be used on my stock 64Mb unit? I'm not sure if there are any functional differences between the versions either.

I appreciate your opinions!

Steve

New York
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gkleding:
What am I doing wrong

I have tried everything to flash my phone but when I try to put it into bootloader mode it just does a soft reset. What I believe I am doing wrong is the unrar process. I am using winrar to extract the dio file but I think this is wrong. Can you email the program I should be using?

Thank-you so much

Sunday
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wazz72:
WM6 Contacts Manager

Just downloaded and installed this to my HX4700,

WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar

works fine, except The contacts manager wont work. Does anyone know how to fix this, or is there a newer version than this that works 100%

Thanks

Warren
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
Have you seen this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=430632

vivi's hx4700 ROM kitchen thread here is probable source:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=401068
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] delvig:
It's the same thread made by dofyx on PPCCOOL.

Many thanks to him for this french translation (I'm also a french user).

Only one question : does somebody know how to allow more memory for programs than for storage, please (I could make it with WM2003SE, but not with WM6.1) ?

Excuse me again for my bad english.

Patrice
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MagooChris:
I'm new on here too and haven't flashed my HX4700 and I asked the same question about 3 pages ago. It seems that there is a lite rom that has removed IE and WMP from it so that it doesnt' need to take up as much space, and you can find much better tools for surfing the net and media. It's probably the one I will try when I get someone to solder on my new sync port :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
no a 4700 wont fit"in" it but its BT so it doesnt really have to ...

http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/x50-x51-accessories/96294-bluetooth-controller-modding.html

a thread where someone modded one... pics seem to be missing though...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
try this.... i had it working on the 4700 with 2003se but not enough buttons and they somehow gave 1 button code when pressed but another when released. not a problem with the program but with the ipaq. i have not tried it on WM6.1..... also there are hints at a new version i will start to look into it again

http://www.fpsece.net/index.html
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mike789166:
Broken sync port

Hi, I had a problem with my sync port and finally decided to investigate. I took off the cover and using a 10x magnifier I discovered that the port was lifting the pads from the motherboard. I used a fine soldering iron (no solder) to heat the pads enough to resolder to the M.B. and it now works like new, even better as I'm using Sanjay's lite rom. It is brill. Many thanks Sanjay.:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] klau1:
How long does the rom update take?

I am trying to update with the SL61V3 rom. Using the non-GUI bootloader, The HX4700 has been on the cradle with the boot screen and the PC has been on the MTTY screen for more than 2 hours.

How long does it usually take?

Is the MTTY supposed to appear non-responsive?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chrismrulz:
if you downloaded it from my site it should come with instructions that tell you what to look out for and what to do.

in the newer roms it will be unresponsive after it's said something, at which point you need to do hard and soft resets to the hx4700.

depends what the mtty console says.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] klau1:
thanks for the reply.

It worked after I moved from an Active Sync 3.8 computer to an Active Sync 4.5 computer. Of course many things are different once computers change. But it now works well. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] delvig:
Hello,

Does somebody know how to allow more memory for programs than for storage, please (I could make it with WM2003SE, but not with WM6.1) ?

Patrice
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] klau1:
that is not possible since in the WM5/6 OS, all the RAM (not ROM) is already allocated for program memory.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] delvig:
Thank you for this fast reply. Is it possible to use an other way to have more memory for programs ?

Patrice
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] klau1:
just like desktop computers, the only way to increase RAM for program memory is to buy some, ppctech offers this service.

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=207657
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
If you can figure out how tadzio's big storage tools works, and use it to cook one of these hx4700 roms, then you can shrink the imgfs and actually get more ram available. Simply removing programs such as in the sanjay lite version is not really giving you more ram available (as much as I like this rom)

Other than that you can add a new larger ram chip via ppc techs or some other company but it's not worth the cost with such an old device.

As my hx4700 is getting so old I'm tempted to try to do this myself as a fun project. It's method of attachment (BGA) to the board makes it vey difficult to DIY at home although some people have done this kind of thing on other boards using everything from hair dryers to pizza ovens :eek:

Additionally, you can easily change the pagepool size of your rom using a program available here called modpp.exe . It's simple to use on any rom before you flash the device. It changes your page pool size to anything you set.

IMO you should set your pagepool size to 8MB even with the standard ram size of a stock device. sanjays lite rom has 8MB pagepool by the way. I think many people are enjoying this rom and thinking it's because it's cleaned up and gives them more ram, when actually I think the main reason is that they've got a larger pagepool.

Read this post from Solnyshok about pagepool size on the hx4700:

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=230392

Read the first post here on tadzio's big storage tool thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=298327
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Linus_18:
problems with tadzio tools

the problems following the above procedure are regarding how to obtain a valid nbh file.

infact we have only encrypted nbf files, is needed the password for decription I think.

from a dump directory one can obtain a smaller bin file (ImgfsFromDump) ...and after this ???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
make sure all programs are installed to storage cards not memory that will help a bit..its not as easy as in WM2003se to move things around. i still haven't figured out a way to get rid of "my documents" in "my device" i have a "my documents" on my CF HDD but have to manually copy files to it. the old trick of "ignore my docs" file doesn't work. notes in particular seems determined to use the docs in my device...

i have 27megs available after a reset but mem leaks drop this to around 24 after use....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] delvig:
Thank you for your answers.

Where can I find modpp.exe (the link is dead) ?

Patrice
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
I found this place to give the best bang for the buck on my HX4700. They added another 64 megs of ram for a total of 128 megs ram and 128 megs rom. I have never had another problem with running programs since this upgrade. It was 169.00 bux and took about 5 days total time for the mods.

http://www.ppctechs.com/home.htm
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lhasistos:
Hello , somebody knows why my 4700 with a good back up battery loose date and time when I change main batt . Im not find the solution , I have nothing wrong , back up batt good in current and voltage , no lacks , no bad contacts , micro switch in main batt attach ok ........ also I check with multimeter and have 1,2V inside the machine without the main battery .I dont remember if WM5 have this issue too , now I have 6.1 from Algasys.

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
Both my 4700 and my 2755 do this..