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[Fire General] spcdust:
Literally every time the tablet went into sleep mode when it came out I would either get the error message immediately or shortly thereafter - in the later cases it almost seemed like the error message was a delayed reaction as it would be preceded by the device freezing and/or an app, which was on the internal memory, not opening properly (again likely related to the OS running very slow?). I figured, and have read, that with Amazon 5.6.0.0 upgrade they had implemented energy saving mechanisms which may have accidentally included un-mounting the card but don't know if that's true and then you experience the same on 5.4.0.0.
[Fire General] Hallo32:
I have the problem ~ every 2 weeks.

How is the recovery for 5.6.0.0 created? I would expect a script which copies the /boot to /recovery and apply a patch.
[Fire General] joycie840:
I had an update last night that fixes the install button on fire 7 7th gen 5.6.0.0 it works as should now
[Fire General] Hallo32:
Which FireOS version does the Tablet show now?
[Fire General] joycie840:
its showing 5.6.0.0 i reset it because it wasnt letting me install apps with sideload unless i hit the sleep button so i reset it and it installed some updates when it finished it worked as it should now all sideload apps install as normal
[Fire General] DB126:
The updates were likely for Amazon apps and not FireOS. The greyed out install button happens sporadically; not everyone sees it all the time. Glad your device is working now.
[Fire General] joycie840:
I don't no if it makes any difference but before i wiped my tablet i uninstalled kindle kso and factory reset it and when it restarted it was on os 5.6.0.0 but then i had an update called fire os 5.6.0.0 now i no its the same name but it was a proper update because it restarted and optimized it but then after that i also had 14 little updates that all installed without restarting now the install works as normal
[Fire General] DB126:
Interesting; thanks for sharing the details. A bit irresponsible of Amazon to not bump the build number but not the first time they (and other OEMs) have gone this route. Seems more prevelent when an OTA update contains only fixes/patches vs feature enhancements.
[Fire General] Aethernoob:
spcdust I have 2 16GB HD8's

I also have a 64 GB scandisc SD card that seem to be working fine.
[Fire General] Hallo32:
Can you take a picture of your Sandisk card? They have a bunch of different models. ;)
[Fire General] Aethernoob:
I don't know how to post an image on here yet but I can give you the info

SanDisk Ultra micro SDXC UHS-I Card with adapter Is what the package reads.

(Micro SD XC 1 or XC I is what it says on the actual SD card itself)

"Ideal for Android powered and other smartphones and tablets"

64 GB Speed up to 80 MB/s** 533X
[Fire General] Hallo32:
I have the same card and it is failing sometimes. :confused:

Why did this happen sometimes?

https://www.sandisk.de/home/memory-cards/microsd-cards/ultra-microsd-400gb
[Fire General] DB126:
Failing how? A faux SD card 'unexpectedly removed' message on wake? Could be a FireOS 5.6 timing issue with a read attempted before the slot/card is fully powered up and ready. If so Amazon will likely issue a fix in the coming weeks.

Larger capacity storage devices sometime take longer to initialize. Might try a smaller 32 GB card if available.
[Fire General] Aethernoob:
The capacity is too large I think

I think the fire will only take 256 GB SD card
[Fire General] Adyatan:
Guys If you are having SD Card issues then check it with this app : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.humanlogic.sdi

If it says SD Card invalid then your SD card is fake.

I bought a 64 GB sandisk card which was fake.

Currently the 128 GB one is working fine.
[Fire General] geordie1882:
Amazon Fire 8 playstore answer?

Hi Everyone, I was stumped with google playstore stuff not loading properly until I found this article. I wait patiently for a 5.6.0.0 rollback. Im using a 2017 fire 8 HD 7th Gen, its brand new as of Nov 6th.

I was able to install play store using this blog

cant paste the url obviously so desperate few will have to put it in order in the topbar :D:cowboy:

blog.the-ebook-reader.com/

2017/06/09/how-to-install-

google-play-on-2017-fire-

tablets-in-5-minutes/

,method. I uninstalled all google .apks first. Then rebooted and installed the exact files in the post, I did not use newer versions, I used them exact files in the order of the bullet point using pre installed app ES File Explorer. They all installed without giving me the previous (Parse Error) I was getting, I assume with newer version of the google account, etc etc etc. Play services and play store asked me to open after install, I just went with done and didnt open anything.

I turned it off for a few minutes and started her back up. I started playstore and it asked me time sign in, to my delight :) .

Hope this helps.

p.s. I think I was getting caught out by the google account having to be installed first, somehow!

Regards

Geordie1882
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
At the moment, there is no way to roll back an HD 8 no matter what FireOS version you are on. Seems like this is the only Amazon Tablet that can't be rolled back.
[Fire General] Hallo32:
It seems to happens at the state transition.

The tablet has been used and goes to sleep through time out. (No power button press) It seems that an app tries to access the SD card and the display lights up again with the message, that the SD card has been 'unexpectedly removed'.

I'm not expect any fix from Amazon, the default reply has always been, "I will send you a guide for the factory reset. ...." (This is not fixing the problem.)

Getting a smaller card is not a solution. I'm looking for a 128GB one.

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I'm using the 64GB version, but Sandisk points always to the largest one.

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No fake in my case.
[Fire General] DB126:
Suggests a power management issue. No surprise given battery life has been the focus of recent FireOS updates and a major talking point when 7th gen devices were released. Amazon does tend to squash bugs over time via OTA updates. Telemetry gives feedback long before issues are reported in mass. Keep in mind the purpose of this device from Amazon's perspective. If folks get frustrated and toss them aside the portal stops generating revenue. They don't make a tablet for the sake of making a tablet.

Pick your poison.
[Fire General] xcowdudex:
kindle fire 5th generation OS 5.6 root access

can I get root access with OS 5.6? I tried the one for 5.1 and it hangs after transfer and won't reboot.

It still works though, not bricked
[Fire General] DB126:
Absolutely not. Nor can you rollback to a rootable build. Lucky you didn't brick the little fella trying to sideload 5.1x. Virtual butt was likely spared by trying to apply a 5th gen image to a 7th gen platform.
[Fire General] Hallo32:
With this guide and a rooted installation the move to 5.6.0 with root is possible.
[Fire General] DB126:
Assume you mean 5.4.0.x (not 6.4.0). Are you stating this worked for you or suggesting it should work? If the former thanks for confirming. Otherwise, it is not known if FireOS 5.4 is compatible with any of the bootloaders linked in that post. I'm guessing 'yes' but still needs to be confirmed with a working device that remains stable over time with no radio, display or audio glitches.
[Fire General] Hallo32:
It has been a typo. the right version is 5.6.0.

I did an update with this method from 5.3.1 to 5.6.0 with root rights.
[Fire General] DB126:
Great - thanks for sharing. Keep an eye out for the anomalies noted in my previous post which have afflicted other Fire devices (notably 3rd gen HDX) with bootloader/FireOS mismatches. It seems 5th gen Fires don't have that problem...at least based on those running a 5.0/5.1 bootloader with higher FireOS revs.

Curious - do you plan to stick with FireOS long term or eventually attempt a 5.3.1 rollback, reroot and go with a custom ROM?
[Fire General] Hallo32:
Custom ROMs with 5.3.1? Are there any guides?

The last information I have had, has been, that this is not possible because the the boot partition can not be modified without destroying the digital signature.
[Fire General] DB126:
Wow - where have you been? :)

Root, SuperSU and FlashFire are the only prerequisites to access (flash) any custom ROM for this device. You obviously have all three having munged 5.6 onto a 5.3.1 base. Suggest looking at the threads (OP in particular) for Fire Nexus and LineageOS 12.1. Both are fully featured, highly stable custom ROMs that bring out the true potential of this device. You'll be more than a little surprised at the difference with very few downsides.

Note the above custom ROMs are the only two currently receiving regular maintenance. There are 4 or 5 others but most haven't been touched in well over a year and thus lack the benefit of collective learnings acquired over time.
[Fire General] Hallo32:
The last time I had searched for alternative ROMs, they were only tested with unlocked bootloaders.

But at the moment the ForeOS 5.6.0 seems to work nicely for me.
[Fire General] DB126:
Yeah, you have outdated information. There has never been a bootloader unlock exploit for the 5th generation Fire. Same with many newer non-Amazon devices. FlashFire (the spiritual successor to odin) brought flashing ROMs and other system level components to the masses. Unfortunately, tightening security has made rooting increasingly difficult as evidenced in recent Android and FireOS builds.

As an aside, all of my devices except the 5th gen Fires (which can still boot TWRP) are fully unlocked. Yet I still use FlashFire to apply some updates as it is easier than dropping into recovery when an precautionary nandroid is not required. Marvelous tool.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
Gotta go older. 2nd Gen for example. Kindle 8.9 is out of this world. I have to admit, the older FireOS was, the more I liked it. Not sure what happened where FireOS ended up being the mess it is today. For curious readers: if root is truly a must in order for you to own a device, all FireOS versions of the 8.9 are rootable, you can flash TWRP recovery, and there are a dozen, if not more, custom ROMs for it. I got mine used, eBay for $35 a piece.

The only Amazon tablet I own that isn't rooted and or TWRPED is the HD 8. It was on 5.3.2.1 when I bought it. It's now on 5.4.0.0, and OTA has long been disabled. FireOS makes me hate this tablet. If it weren't for the hacks we found, I'd have trashed it lol. I own a Fire 7, HD 8 and a few Kindle 8.9.
[Fire General] DB126:
I also own a few 2nd gen HDs. Great little machines. For those looking to upscale 3rd (but not 4th) gen HDX devices are fully unlockable, rootable and have nearly a dozen ROMs available including 5 Nougat variants. Hardware wise HDX models run circles around anything else Amazon produced and are very competitive with today's mobile devices. They are a bit pricier on eBay, typically $50-125 depending on screen size and condition. That said, from a value perspective it is hard to beat the 2nd gen HDs.
[Fire General] Hallo32:
Is there a diff between the 5.6.0 download from the amazon page (595457020) and the ota update for 5.6.0 (595457320) available?
[Fire General] DB126:
Unknown but me thinks the OTA update may be a smaller 'patch' as the full version approaches a GB in size. A bit much for those on slow/metered connections given the frequency of FireOS updates.
[Fire General] Hallo32:
The captured OTA is a full update like the one from the Amazon webpage. The buildnumber has increased by 3.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
When I see a Fire 7 or HD 8 OTA to Amazon's planned update to Nougat, then I'll reset it lol.
[Fire General] DB126:
Amazon's quiet FireOS v6 announcement in late 3Q17 primarily targeted gen 3 Fire TV devices with an accompanying statement that older TV device would not be "upleveled" at this time. No word on other devices.

Opinion: I would be shocked to see v6 rollout to 5th/6th gen devices based on past experience. More likely a new generation of 7/8 inch models will come out mid-2018 with the new OS as a talking point. Not so sure about 7th gen devices which include the substantially updated and better equipped HD 8/10. All that goes out the window if FireOS v6 contains Amazon ecosystem capabilities that can not be back-ported to an Android 5.1 base. Remember why these devices exist in the first place.
[Fire General] Hallo32:
Which build date is shown under the version 5.6.0?

I see also an update for 5.6.0 but the *.bin seems to be faulty. The hash doesn't match and jar is not able to extract the bin.
[Fire General] Hallo32:
At least now, they are pushing smaller differential updates as OTA updates.

Is Amazon monitoring this forum?
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
I would say yes they are. How often? I couldn't guess. I know one thing is certain: they devoted a whole .1 OTA just because of me. 5.4.0.1 was released some time after I discovered the ability to disable system apps and was primarily to stop us from doing that. However on Fire 7s, you can downgrade from 5.4.0.1 to 5.4.0.0 and as low as 5.3.2.1. So monitors yes, but clearly not using the same people for very long, or they suck at taking notes.

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If you are running 5.6.0.0, check the build.prop. There should be a date in there.
[Fire General] Hallo32:
Yes, you can still downgrade, if you have such a tablet but all the new ones seems to be delivered with a higher version of FireOS. Also most of the older versions may get the ota.

If I would be able to get a second Fire 7 (2015) with the old rootable FireOS version I would be happy.

At least one of the support staff knows very well, why a few older FireOS versions are wanted. :) (Thanks to the person. ;) )

By the way, the link on the Amazon page is also pointing now to the new FireOS 5.6.0 build. But the file can not be extracted with

jar -x

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Sure, I would do this, but I have no access to the tablet of the person.

At least the following build dates has been seen of 5.6.0.0

31 oct

15 nov

10 dec
[Fire General] DB126:
No disrespect but I doubt the incremental update was solely driven by your work. A point release often follows a major update as kinks are ironed out. Clearly one or more adb blocks were added in this release likely due in part to your published findings. So yeah, Amazon probably monitors XDA forums but I don't think the day-to-day activity defines their business/technical plans.
[Fire General] k0nkuzh0n:
Anyone who updated to 5.6 and has a tablet other than the HD 10... do you have hands free Alexa now? Or is it still exclusive to the HD 10? Thinking about getting a 7 or 8 for home automation, but if it doesn't have hands free alexa, it loses quite a bit of value. And the HD 10 is just too big for me for this purpose.
[Fire General] DB126:
Amazon's feature matrix is pretty clear on this point. If FireOS 5.6 brought new functionality there would likely be more hype. Certainly in customer reviews if not by Amazon.
[Fire General] k0nkuzh0n:
Ya I'm aware of the matrix, but that very well could just be marketing. The reviews for the HD 10 that I read imply that its hands-free Alexa function came about because of FireOS 5.5, which I don't believe the 7 or 8 got.... but they did get 5.6. That is why I ask.

Can you actually confirm that FireOS 5.6 didn't change this for the 7 or 8? Or are you just going by the matrix as well? I appreciate your help!
[Fire General] DB126:
I don't have a device running 5.6 nor the time to spin one up at present. I did spend time reading recent (last 60 days) customer and professional reviews. Aside from a few individual quips there is no strong evidence 7/8 inch models inherited hands free listening from FireOS 5.5/5.6. I suspect the capability is there; Amazon just has the throw the switch. Also possible there is a low power audio component in the HD 10 SOC that supports background listening without killing the battery.

I do believe Amazon will heavily tout this feature if/when is becomes available which factors into my opinion.
[Fire General] razers7t8:
Can't Install Play Store

Hey guys. So I got a fire tablet 10 and I installed the Google Play store and and it worked fine. Then I created a new login for an extra user on the tablet and I tried to install the play store again on that side of the tablet and it's saying that google play services failed to install. It also says the play store failed to install, too.

Why is that?

The only thing that changed is when I installed the first play store initially, the tablet hadn't updated. I updated the tablet after to the latest version of fire os, created a new login/user on the tablet, and tried to install the play store on that side, but it keeps saying install failed when I try to install the play store and google play services.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lytNFI1lQiz3zck3fpzKC5H1N98k8EQ1/view?usp=drivesdk
[Fire General] Hallo32:
Is there a point to not install open gapps?
[Fire General] DB126:
Even the smaller builds (pico, nano) are overkill contain packages that do not play nice on FireOS.

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As you are discovering Google components don't like to be installed under multiple profiles on FireOS. Some crafty members have found partial workarounds with child profiles; hopefully one will pop in with insights. That said, I don't believe you can set up two or more fully independent profiles each with their own working copy of the Play Store.
[Fire General] Azimoff:
Hello guys, I have a question regarding new update. Since I updated to the latest version, I noticed that my name on the top is gone. Is there any solution to back it again? Or should I downgrade?
[Fire General] DB126:
Downgrade for that? Unfortunately, no option in FireOS so rolling back (with associated disadvantages) is the only path.
[Fire General] Azimoff:
Yes I see. I've read all comments related this topic. Fortunately, I installed Google Play store and it still works. Btw, I have question again :)) As you know in play store there are so many font changer programs. The best one is iFont. before installing this, I would like to know, is it working in non rooted Amazon device? As far as I know, it should work in non edited stock android without root. Do you have any idea?
[Fire General] Swift2603:
Hello guys,

I received my Fire7 2017 just yesterday, and of course it updated from 5.4.0.0 to 5.6.0.0...bummer. Will I have 5.4.0.0 again after a factory reset?
[Fire General] gabosius:
Factory reset will not roll back FireOS version, but there are few recent reports of successful downgrades to 5.4.0.0 on Fire 7 (2017) devices.
[Fire General] Gerbs03:
Profile Options

I recently purchased a kindle Fire 7 and it updated to 5.6.0.0 quickly. I noticed prior to the update that I had an option to create another adult account and child accounts. This option seems to be gone. Am I missing it somewhere?
[Fire General] Swift2603:
It's under Profiles & Family Library
[Fire General] Gerbs03:
Here's the menu I get when I go to settings. Is profiles nested under something else?
[Fire General] lbit:
Hi,

I just got a Fire 8 HD with fireos 5.5. I couldn't find half the apps I wanted in the amazon app store so I had to install gapps, which has been easy with no issue. However I have 2 major problems that I don't see mentioned in forums so I'm wondering if it is just me or what.

Both Google play and Settings are initially present in the Home screen and work fine from there. However after they do some automatic updates, these 2 icons in the home screen becomes greyed out and if I try to launch them I just get a message saying that the app is no longer present in SD storage (note that I installed themm in main storege, no SD card installed). So fireos knows the icons are useless ans still they cannot even be removed (very insightful from amazon!)

Second issue is that all apps I install from play store have no icon anywhere in the home screen. The only way I found to launch them is from Google Play. So I first have to manage to launch Google Play, then search for the app and then click on Open , which is pretty inconvenient.

Do you know if there is any solution for these 2 problems (while keeping the stock launcher). I.e. Some way to create shortcuts for these apps in the one of the home screens?

I think I read about an app that can create such shortcut or at least providing some help to open apps installed from the play store, but I cannot that article anymore.
[Fire General] Blackhawk2306:
Has anyone achieved downgrading from 5.6 to 5.4.0.0 on the 2015 edition? Just in case it is needed.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
As far as I am aware, you can only downgrade from 5.6.0.0 to 5.4.0.1 to 5.4.0.0 and all the way to 5.3.2.1 IF you have a Fire 7. Any other Amazon tablet will brick. I'll be corrected if I'm wrong though.
[Fire General] DB126:
Variations of this issue have been reported by others. Searching this thread and one related to installing Google Play Services should offer some clues to what others are doing. It's possible a recent tweak to FireOS 5.6.x.x and/or Google Play Services is behind the glitch. Good luck.

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You will need to search the forums and make your own call. There have been claims both ways. In many cases device generation is not mentioned so the picture remains a bit fuzzy.
[Fire General] lovedgor:
My wife has a Fire 8 with OS 5.6.0.0 installed. I used these instructions to install Google Services and now I can use google store to download apps. http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...oogle-play-on-2017-fire-tablets-in-5-minutes/
[Fire General] Booty Meat:
Sorry for the noobish question. Its been quite awhile since I have used anything android related. I picked up the Fire 7 (most recent model) and was able to put the play store on it right away. I did this with the intent of giving it to my friends wife so she can use the Cricut app which apparently needs Google services to run. I have kind of a 2 part question here. I originally set this under my name and my amazon account. Since I have everything I need under the "roberts fire" profile is there anyway to logout of my amazon accounts and have her sign in hers under "roberts fire"? The reason I ask leads to my second question, I made her her own profile and attempted to install the APKs there but when getting to the Google Services APK I receive a "app not installed" message when trying to install it. I suppose I have a couple of other questions too as a result of this, if I am able to succeed would there be a way to make her the primary profile and then delete mine off. Is the fact that I am currently on 5.6.0.0. preventing me from being able to install the Play Store under this profile?
[Fire General] Hallo32:
You can change the connection to an Amazon account but I don't know if the user profiles will be still useable.

At the moment it seems to be only possible to install Google Play Services global on the tablet.
[Fire General] Booty Meat:
So would that mean there is no way to install the Play Store on additional profiles? Do I run any risk doing a complete restore and signing in on her account and then installing the APK's again? I just havent seen many people that have done it on the non-HD 2017 models on 5.6.0.0
[Fire General] DB126:
There may be a way but few (if any) have found it while maintaining full Play Store functionality. Previous attempts have primarily focused on curating a child's app portfolio in an equally limited profile. IMO you should rebuild the device with a single profile using the desired credentials.

Note this limitation applies to Google services layered onto FireOS. Obviously works fine using 'pure' Android.