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[Moto Z2 Play  Accessories] unerds:
found some other indev moto mods on indiegogo:

biometric reader mod: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/moto-secure-a-moto-mod-concept-security/x/17667308#/

and air quality sensor mod: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/inhale-make-air-visible-personal-healthy/x/17667308#/

-- really hoping the mod concept takes off and at least is permitted to live in it's own little corner of the smartphone market... i doubt we'll see widespread adoption, but these are some interesting concepts.
[Moto Z2 Play  Accessories] captainstarbucs:
This looks absolutely fantastic. I REALLY miss the Droid style phones. Have a note 3, and I'm weighing my options between this phone, or the OnePlus 5T.

Moto Z2 Play has been really eye-catching, I'm leaning towards getting it, and this keyboard addon would be awesome.
[Moto Z2 Play  Accessories] unerds:
I now have one on order!

They're apparently nearing delivery and will stop taking preorders through indiegogo soonish... They're also discussing delivering a model a bit early without a built in battery, since they're nearing mass production.

Here in Canada, it's been tough getting ahold of mods. The gamepad isn't available at all... Every retailer has the 1st Gen speaker, projector and zoom... I know it's risky and a bit pricey, but I just want to support the mod platform, but Moto and it's partners aren't making it easy.

It wasn't easy to pull the trigger on a device that specs/benchmarks lower than flagship devices from 2 years ago, but the mods are really intriguing...

Every other device is basically in an arms race... Z series is trying to carve out it's own niche... So far, I'm really happy with it, having come from an LG G3.
[Moto Z2 Play  Accessories] potter3390:
is there a way to buy this mod? now they close the preorder?
[Moto Z2 Play  Accessories] unerds:
you'll have to inquire with the development team, but i imagine you'll end up having to wait for some kind of retail release at this point... i know they don't always make it that far, but if they won't accept an additional contribution, that's what you'll have to hope for - or perhaps, someone who backed wanting to sell theirs.
[Moto Z2 Play  Accessories] air bear:
Honestly this mod was the one thing i was hoping for more than anything else, and albiet the second gen mods are nice they're generally not worth the upgrade, but this keyboard mod will be the cou de gras for buying the moto z2
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] jsahlen:
I have a Pixel 2 64 GB, and I've been seeing astounding battery drain by Google Play Services lately (I believe it started with the November OTA update, but I can't be 100% sure). Some days are worse than others, and on those days Play Services will be responsible for 30% or more of the battery usage. I haven't been able to pin down when it happens, other than that disabling location services doesn't seem to affect it. Deleting data for Google Play Services as well as the Google app, and rebooting the phone, seems to fix the issue for a day or two (during which I'll get fantastic battery life), but then it comes back.

Are there any other fixes I could try? Anyone experiencing similar issues?
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] gm007:
Try turning off wifi and Bluetooth scanning.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] jsahlen:
Thanks! Bluetooth is off, but wifi scanning was turned on. I'll report back here if I see any effect at all.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] celsian:
I'm having the same issue. Factory reset didn't resolve the issue. Giving the scanning off a try.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] dsg2003:
Same here... does not have a pixel phone but latest oneplus. google play service goes to nearly 30 % in GSAM monitor. I have searched in web and someone says that google updates play service in the background in the last days. and many, many users are talking about massive battery drain because of google play service.

What can we do?

PS: Wifi seraching is off, bluetooth, too... no difference!!
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] tomkubina:
Same here - 50 % battery drain.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] foghorn67:
Same here, tried a factory reset twice and still got the same thing.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] jsahlen:
Hi, OP here again. So, yesterday, with Wi-Fi Scanning turned off, Play Services seemed to behave well on my phone—ended up with about 3% of total battery usage at the end of the day (~ 15 hours). Hopefully it goes just as well today.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] foghorn67:
Is turning off WiFi scanning the Settings > WiFi > WiFi Preferences and the three options..

-Turn on WiFi automatically

-Connect to Open Networks

-Open Network Notifications

Or is that something else?
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] jsahlen:
Today my Google Play Services ballooned back up to > 20% usage :(
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] gm007:
It's in location settings.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] junkimchi:
Dropping by to say that I am experiencing the same thing, only when I have wifi turned on. I'm fairly confident that it's caused by wifi.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] gm007:
It's not wifi, it's all sync activity that happen when connected to wifi,like Google backup and photo backup...
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] foghorn67:
Whats funny is that while having problems with Play Services on my Pixel 2, my Pixel XL 2016 has been a champ. Until I re-activated it as a phone on Project Fi, now Play Services is starting to go beserk. Not sure if it just needed a few moments, or if this is an all day thing that will just follow me around no matter what phone I use.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] junkimchi:
Dropping by AGAIN to confirm that its happening with these conditions:

- The drain never happens when I'm off wifi

- Drain stops when I reboot the phone

- After I reboot the phone I can get on wifi without drain

- When I connect the charger to the phone while on wifi it starts the Google Play Services drain again

I've tested this sequence for almost a whole week now and I'm fairly confident in my findings, I do this type of **** for a living. Try it yourselves.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] foghorn67:
Are you on Project Fi?

I am, so I called them and asked for escalation and told them it follows me on my 2016 Pixel XL and factory resets don't do anything. They asked for a bug report so they could send it to the engineers. Hopefully they will get back to me.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
Google Play Services is still API 23 here.

It should be updated to API 26 for Oreo users and API 27 for Oreo 8.1 DP users.......

Sent from my Pixel 2
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] foghorn67:
I don't know what this means.....

Anyway, my issues seemed to have vanished. I'm finally experiencing all that excellent battery life people have been talking about.

I don't know if it's something Google did on their end that is now changed, or if it's the following:

-On my Google Now feed, there was a ton of stuff checked in the "you showed interest" section. Every NFL team, several political figures, a few movie franchises, and it kept going. It was like 5 minutes of unchecking stuff.

-I uninstalled Pandora. Even without firing up the app after a boot, it was causing issues.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] 530farm:
I've had play services randomly draining battery with no real understanding why. I did toggle off its background activity and haven't had it since
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] jaywright:
GPS Battery drain and casting

Same issue with Pixel (original) and Oreo 8.0 with GPS November release, 11.7.46. Also kills Casting to my Chromecast devices. Originally tried a factory reset, but this did no good at all.

Removing GPS updates, then installing August release 11.5.09 returns bettery to normal use and restores ability to Cast.

Unfortunately I cannot find a way to prevent auto updating to latest GPS every day, so having to repeat process daily.

I have reported to Google support who have requested a bug report from my mobile. Hopefully they will acknowledge issue soon and provide fix.

Anyone else experiencing casting issues too? lots of mention regarding battery drain but not re casting.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] foghorn67:
Inexplicably, my battery drain is back. It's like it took a break for my 5 day weekend, and as soon as I go back to work, it starts hammering my battery.

Gee, Google. Thanks....I guess.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] lbreak:
Don't worry guys - this has been the story of Android for the last 6 years, nothing out of the ordinary. Just got to accept shyte battery life due to random drains that have no logical explanation.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] stackz07:
My battery was excellent on my first device. Then I got a RMA and am now experiencing the issue described.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] dmitry59:
I had the same issue on different device. During thanksgiving i saw one update of gmail app and after it battery become good.

Yesterday (29th_Nov_2017) the issue is back. Seems like some Google Apps issue once again. Looking for update in next few weeks.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] stackz07:
Did you travel for Thanksgiving? Your cell coverage could have been the culprit.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] foosion:
It seems that battery drain labeled Google Play Services can happen at random. Just because drain started after you did something (an update or whatever) does not mean that thing caused the drain. It may or may not have.

I sometimes think Google Play Services battery usage is a catch-all rather than being anything specific enough to tie down to a specific cause, especially a specific cause which can be fixed by the user.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] foghorn67:
Project Fi is RMA'ing my device. Maybe it's a HW issue. I'll find out soon enough.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] JasonJoel:
I've been getting like 25-30% battery drain from Google Play Services on my S8+ for the past week or so. Same signal strength, same usage.

Google f'ed up something in the last services update. Super annoying.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] junkimchi:
If you search "Google Play Services battery drain" on reddit you'll see that a bunch of other devices are also suffering similar issues. I started a post on reddit and it seems like a lot of people came to the conclusion that it is related to wifi usage. I would have to agree as my experience is in line with theirs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...e_play_services_causing_severe_battery_drain/
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] JasonJoel:
Eh, maybe, but it happens to me even if wifi is turned off and wifi and Bluetooth scanning turned off in location services.

Haven't tried also turning off Bluetooth, though, as I have an android wear watch.

---------- Post added at 10:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:26 PM ----------

After reading that thread though, I turned off wifi and reboot my phone. I'll leave wifi turned off instead of turning it on and off, like it suggested, and see if it happens.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] stackz07:
I uninstalled allo and duo and turned GPS to device only. Am at 55% with 3.5 hrs screen on now.. And I streamed spotify and Bluetooth for a solid half hour while driving. Happy again :)
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] dyingearth:
My brother's pixel 2 xl was having drain problem. After I did a full factory re-image (minus the wipe) and enrolled his phone to beta program, the problem disappeared.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] foghorn67:
I can't shake my GPS drain issues. It upgraded from 11.7.46 to 11.9.51 and seemed to do okay for a few days. Until it didn't. It got down to 49% battery with 18m of SoT today.

It's pathetic. Reset after reset, wipes, safe boots, and a brand new replacement and I am done and tired.

I called Project Fi to arrange a refund and they are looking into it. They said it's beyond the "Buyers Remorse" return period. I was able and willing to work with them for a solution during the return period, and they just strung me along until it coasted past it.

They did little to fix the effort and I reminded Project Fi support that this wasn't a matter of defective HW, it's GPS going bonkers with my account. After my replacement device was sent, I told them my phone is constantly warm and still chewing through the battery. Their response was closing the ticket and telling me to call in and re-open it if I still had issues. A response only possible by not reading my emails.

They were supposed to call me back today to see if a refund exception was possible, but they lived up to their horrible customer service and didn't return my call.

I'm done with Google and my 8+ year run with Android. Google Stores, the Pixel campaign and Project Fi were supposed to address the naive attempt at turn key solution, but it hasn't worked.

I spent the early days chasing stability with ROM's like Bugless Beast and CM and finding kernels and switching carriers to see who supported the latest blessed Google devices. From the Droid to the Nexus to the Google owned Motorola and back to the Nexus with brief jumps to Galaxy flagships here and there. In that time I stopped rooting and ROM'ing and just waited patiently for Google to run Android like they cared. I thought the Pixel 2 was it, I was wrong.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] mokijoki:
Solution from the Google product forums might be worth a shot:

Update any Google cast capable devices on your network with the latest version of "Google Cast Receiver". Any Google products (Home, Chromecast, etc) should have been updated automatically and probably aren't the problem. The most likely culprits are Android TVs including Sony Android TVs!

Go to your device's Google Play store and search for "Google Cast Receiver" and update it!

The battery drain is being caused by a version mismatch between Google's November update of Google Play Services and slow-to-update cast capable devices on your network.

You may have to update it manually. To update the app, you literally have to type "Google Cast Receiver" exactly like that capitalizing the first letter of each word or it won't find it.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] SurferLTU:
I'm experiencing Google play services battery drain on Galaxy NOTE 5... and it drives me crazy....

....feel's like 10 years of friendship with Android is coming to the end... things aren't changing through decades... :(
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] 530farm:
I think this isn't applicable to this problem. That apk looks like it's for Android TV devices only.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] tkhvbcht:
my problem its whatsapp and facebook, its drain like big time...not see that google play service drain the battery.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] peakvcty:
Seems caused by my location or wifi at location

I've noticed that whenever I go to universal studios

My phone will start to heat up in my pocket and Google play services is draining 30-50% of the battery. I am using WiFi here at the park. I never have this issue at home on wifi. If I clear data on Google play services it'll stop the problem till the next time I return here. I hate doing that though as it wipes out my Android pay credit cards. I wonder if it happens on certain wifi routers as I read another person having the issue whenever he goes to work. I do not charge my phone before the issue happens, it starts before I plug it in but it is on wifi. I'll have to test keeping wifi off but problem is I get poor signal inside so rely on wifi when indoors. Anyone notice it happens only at a certain location too?
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] JazzVH:
Exactly the same situation, one Wi-Fi network (work) where Google Play Services goes nuts and starts draining my Nexus 6p's battery. Arrive with about 90% battery, down to 48% after an hour - without even turning the screen on. Culprit is indeed GPS and it can be somewhat stopped by turning of Wi-Fi, I've found, not always. Doesn't happen at home Wi-Fi or anywhere else.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] redz1234:
Very Interesting..

I have been swapping between my Pixel2XL and S8+ every couple weeks till I decide which will be my daily.

Haven't noticed any battery drain on either phone over the last 1-2mths..

FYI.. I also have Wifi and Bluetooth scanning turned off and both phones are completely stock with regards to ROMs and such.

ReDz
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] gadzio:
Strange that nobody mentioned that but just clean the cache of the google play services and the draining disappears. If it comes back, do it again and it's solved.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] xFirefly93:
One thing I tried with was installing the latest Google Play Services app myself manually (google "latest Google Play Services arm64) because I had a version from november/december on my Pixel 2, which could be the culprit and reason to the horrible battery drain for a lot of people around here?

My battery drain is more acceptable at the moment with this minor solution.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] BruceElliott:
Answer: Post #2 of this thread, by gm007

Folks, the cause of this problem is properly identified by gm007 in post #2. Turn off Wifi and Bluetooth scanning, which are hidden under Location settings. Here's the deal:

"Wifi scanning" means that Google Play Services, Google Backup Transport, Google Account Manager and Google Services Framework can turn on your Wifi at will, without showing the Wifi icon or any other indication. They do this for two reasons: (1) They can triangulate your location from known locations of millions of home and business Wifi routers; and (2) they love Wifi when you are connected to Wifi because of its blazing speed. They can snatch up data from your phone or download updates to the above four services and more in a twinkling of an eye.

The particularly evil part, though, is that after you disable "Wifi scanning," after a period of time they will scan your phone using Play Services, notice that Wifi scanning is disabled, and then simply re-enable it again without asking. That is why this thread is full of reports of the problem returning.

That is an explanation of what's happening but not a solution. If you don't use Play Store much, you can use a firewall to block network access by the above-mentioned services. However, that will block access to Play Store and may interfere with other apps that need to check in with Play Store. Don't even think about cloud services " instant apps." That will be a nightmare. Also, if you allow Google to sync your data to their cloud, you are simply handing over your data. Better to back up to your PC using Titanium; however that requires root and now Google is "decertifying" devices that are rooted. Ultimately Congress will need to get involved with this abuser whose market cap is larger than the GDP of most nations.

P.S. This is Google's instruction to app developers about how to do the functions described above:

https://developer.android.com/training/location/change-location-settings

The difference is that Google does not bother to ask the user permission.

PPS. The common wisdom is to update Play Services to the latest version to help with battery drain. Poppycock! Every succeeding version is ever more onerous and able to do things to your phone on its own. A recent version added "Find My Device" and "Google Pay" as device administrators under "Settings...Security" without any warning to me whatsoever, let alone permission. I de-authorize those two services as device administrators by un-checking them and then "Google Pay" checked again a few hours or days later.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] mamarcac:
First, thanks for the awesome explanation. Second, wow Google. Just wow...
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] Omkar2609:
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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
T-Mobile is shipping out my V30 today :) :) What's the first things to do to tweak this ? Would like your help and advice please.

- Do I run the updates first thing, and download and install the latest T-Mobile version for the phone before doing anything else ?

- I want to follow this guide;

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/turn-your-lg-v30-into-google-pixel-2-0180558/

Is that guide still valid and up to date ? Installing the Pixel 2 launcher works ok on the V30 ? And the other Google apps like the Phone, and Contacts ?

- How bout the app disabler ? I heard there's issues with it due to the newest T-Mobile update ? Is this guide still valid ?

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083

Download those two apps, and those will allow me to debloat specific apps I don't want ?

- For ad stoppers in broswer and apps ? Is Blokada the best option ?

- Anything else
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] SHosp:
Honestly, I would install the 10c system update and switch to Nova launcher then play with the phone for a week before starting to de-bloat/modify anything more. The 10c update seems to have addressed a lot of the scrolling lag issues some were experiencing. The T-Mobile version seems to be pretty clean as far as bloat (unlike AT&T and Verizon which are jam packed). This will also give you a baseline to compare against so if you do want to modify, you can note the difference.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] CHH2:
First thing.... put a case on it.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] herkules:
And a tempered glass

Enviado desde mi LGM-V300K mediante Tapatalk
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] sicerik 1980:
Check this out.

https://youtu.be/_8H7lmOmqkw
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] steve841:
If you want the simplest ...

Just uninstall or disable what you dont want. On Tmo, it's not bad at all.

If you're on Verizon - good luck. Ive never seen so much bloatware installed.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
Which ad blocker are you guys running ?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Septembersrain:
Blockada. Most of my apps don't have ads but I'm loving the fact that it stops ads in Zedge. Those are just plum annoying and frequent.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
Maybe when I did the app disabler I turned off something that these ad blockers need ?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
So, I did everything in my first post, and the phone looks and acts almost like a stock Android phone. Only thing I didn't do was installation Pixel type theme from the Play Store, mainly because what's really to be themed now after my tweaks ? I installed the Google Phone. Google Messages. Google Calendar. Running the Pixel 2 Launcher. Only thing I might so tweaked with a theme on the V30 would be the Settings menu and maybe status bar ?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Septembersrain:
Most likely. Though it could have something to do with the Google apps you installed as I noticed a lot of blocking that Blockada does involves Google analytics and tracking as well.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] stu5797:
The lg package disable is so helpful. Thanks op! Got rid of all my bloat
[Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers] cenkaetaya:
Hi, there are now two of us in the same building with XZ Premiums which have a WarrantytimeService Notification permanently stuck on the notification bar.

I have noticed this seems to only happen when connecting the company work profile / google apps email account.

does anyone know how to get rid of this? what this is? or why its here?

This only happened after the Android 8 Orea update.

Video showing image of notification:

https://youtu.be/xP3ULyeKJwQ

Thanks
[Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers] Saadkhalid786:
probably you are rooted so use Titanium backup and uninstall warantytimeservice.
[Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers] cenkaetaya:
We are both running stock android without even a homescreen launcher.

My phone is a few months old, my friend just got his 2 weeks ago brand new at BestBuy.
[Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers] petermp_:
I got the same issue. Brand new phone. No mods.