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[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] HiatiX:
Ok guys, here's the thing. I've been using Nexus 5 since its launch (4+ years now). Now with a replaced camera, replaced power button, and cracked front glass (happened just 1 month ago for the first time), I think its time to upgrade.

Considered V30 (but I don't think LG will release it in India any day soon, plus the development is almost nil), then thought of buying S8 but I have always been a vanilla OS guy. Finally, they released OP5T and I guess this is it. As budget is not the factor for me (but worth the buck is), I think pixel is a no go, Note 8... nah, now it comes to S8 vs OP5T (as I can always make UI vanilla).

What do you guys think? Which one should I go for? What are other alternatives? How much fragile S8 Screen is?

Preference: Camera, Performance, Display and DEVELOPER SUPPORT.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] 75markus:
I will get it .... coming from a Oneplus2, my wife will get that

i hope Oreo lineage will start soon for the 5T, cause i already use it on my OP2 since weeks and don´t wanna downgrade to Nougat ...
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Bill9994:
I will stick with my op5. Fp sensor on the front is a big deal for me, I'm constantly using my phone when I have it laying face-up on the desk. If it had ois and ip68 I might be tempted to give up the front fp sensor. Hopefully the op6 moves to those features.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Shady282:
Actually, i m lost between getting Mate 10 or OP 5T... can someone help me decide ? they are almost same price in my country... so hard to decide. i mean the mate 10 has a better cam i guess.. and runs smoothly. but never had a huawei before.... what do you think? updates? and such.

Thanks :)
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] jeff5347:
^^^^^

I'm kinda curious as well. I currently have the pixel XL 128 from a 6p replacement. I love the XL but really like bigger phones. Water resistant, fp sensor and face unlock I really could care less about. Getting the 5t would upgrade me to a bigger screen, 835 vs 821 so a better processor. I already use tiles to get immersive mode so that could be done on the 5t as well and with my current XL I haven't flashed as I was waiting to see what the mate 10 pro and 5t offered. Would you guys jump to a 5t from the XL. If the cam on the 5t is = to or better than the XL that's another +.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] temporarium:
Tempting, but IMHO the Asus Zenfone 4 Pro has more to offer.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] wolfeyes30:
Currently have a 3T and debating whether to get the 5T or a Pixel 2 XL. I do miss getting all updates first when I had the Nexus 6. The screen issues I have been reading about has halted my purchase of a Pixel. On the other hand, I truly dislike the button configuration of OnePlus phones. Volume on left side and power button on right side and also the slider is absolutely useless to me. Time will tell I guess.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] followyourbliss1:
Im waiting for the real life review to come in.. Great performance phone.. Camera not so hot..
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] blue5055:
Yes I'm getting it. Just wish OnePlus had a trade in program like Google does with the Pixel. Just bought my OnePlus 5 3 months ago!
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] daniel-t:
I just pre-ordered it with an upgraded contract, from O2.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Thunderbolt:
Im thinking about 5T and U11+. It's a difficult choice.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] usmanxhmed:
Hard to believe you are confused between Stock UI/Root friendly phone and a skinned phone with may be with more bells and whistles. They both having nothing in common other than price,

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Very confused post bro.

Price difference between two, if price don't matter, then screen is certainly doubtful on Pixel 2 XL. I was not happy with scrolling issue with OnePlus 5, had to resale it. Screen matters if you get faulty one and if your eyes are precise.

You can change button configuration in OP5T in settings with ease, or further via root if required.

Volume buttons are used rarely, not all the time. If Alert Slider is useless, you can ignore it, it being there should not hurt you, just don't use phone tilted at angle 90 degree, you won't see it mostly :)

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Yeah, just U11 is few hundred dollars expensive, very hard to resall, have LCD screen, skinned and even slower updates.

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Yes it will be downgrade, if you buy 5T.

- More speedy, less lag, smoother.

- Stock UI

- Bigger Screen

- Easier to Root and Modify

- No curve screen, so no image distortion at edges

- No curve screen, harder to break screen. ( Not Curved on edges)

Keep S8 is better, you get TW, highly beneficial Screen Resolution, little bit lag, smaller screen, smaller battery and mighty shinign shimmering fancy useful curved screen as well.

On a serious Note, if you are good with TW, should stay on it.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] big_b0sss:
I am a nexus fan moved to Samsung after they killed the nexus line. I miss messing around with phone. Samsung is difficult to modify. Think I'll go with op5t
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Maroc_Specops:
Note 8 kills it
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] wolfeyes30:
Confused....how?

Please show me where you can change the volume and power buttons to have all 3 on the right side of the phone? I think you're confused on what I meant. I use my volume buttons quite a bit.

The screen is my concern with the Pixel 2 Xl and all the other issues I been reading about on the XDA.

Also 5T should be shipping with Oreo not Nougat. The new stable 3T 8.0 ui looks just like Nougat, why?

Have a wonderful day.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] AcmE85:
That's where you are mistaking.

From all full resolution samples I've seen so far, it looks like oil paintings are back once again, just like on the OP5.

https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t_hands_on-review-1686p3.php#image0
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Thunderbolt:
U11+ will start with Oreo, so...:D Have a bigger battery, much better camera. Screen? to be honest, for now LCD is better ( for me) black is black, white is white, not blue-pink-green. Maybe that's the price different?
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] kolembo:
The Mate 10.

If they're almost the same price Annnnnd you're not into altering your phone, the mate 10 is a much more premium device.

The 5T it's great - practically.

But Huawei with the Mate are not playing in the same sphere as oneplus
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] usmanxhmed:
Note 8 killed many owners, they paid for 1 phone, they got two, stacked one over another to make one extra long phone in length with the super duper curved screen.

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Mate 10 is much more premium as no one minds

- Heavy Skin

- bloateware

- duplicate Apps

- laggy software

- Lack of snapdragon

- LCD screen and not Amoled

- More weight

- 4GB ram as compared to 8GB means inferior hardware

- 64GB as compared to 128GB

- Bluetooth 4.2 as compared to bluetooth 5 of 5T

- Unspecified Corning Gorilla glass of Mate10

- No resale price of Huawei

Yes you are right Mate 10 is much more premium SmartPhone

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I never said you can bring it on one side, but your decision to buy smartphone based on Volume/Power key on same side is nothing short of legendary. Yeah you must be DJ, that you need to toggle Volume buttons all the time for precise bombastic sounds.

OREO looks like nougat? i think you are talking about Oreo launcher, which you can use on any phone.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] wissou050987:
hey guys, I have a $40 off code for the 5t that I got at the launch event, I won't be needing it as I'll use my student discount, PM me if you're interested
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Shady282:
yeah, it is like i really need to buy a new budget phone :(

I like the oneplus 5t, the development support is amazing and you will always get the latest android !!!! But hard to repair.

The only thing i don't like about huawei mate 10, is no development support and i don't know about if huawei will keep updating with latest android...

Never had any of those brands that is why i was asking.... sorry for talking much about it. :good: :D
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] paulbax:
I currently have the GS7 and I'm just sick of Touchwiz and how incredibly slow my phone has become in the past few months, I'm really just over Samsung as I've found this happens with any device of theirs that I've owned.

I'm really tempted to get the OP5t but the one thing that's putting me off is the lower resolution screen. For anyone who's owned a 5, do you think I'll actually notice the difference in screen quality?

I just want the screen to be clear and vivid, but I would definetly be turned off if I could see visible pixels.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] wolfeyes30:
Look at your first reply to me about hardware button configuration. You misunderstood what I meant abd you replied with incorrect info.

The thread is about are you getting a 5T and I posted my dislikes and not sure what I want to do. Are you getting one? Why? Why not a HTC... Samsung? What makes you prefer one phone over another? Everyone has reasons and it's not for you to determine what someone else's priorities are for a phone.

Look at the notification shade and the settings menu on OOS 5.0 tell me it looks any different than 7.1.

Go buy an iPhone...I hear they're the best.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] droidhd:
I own Galaxy s7 at the moment and thinking to change it for OP5t. I like everything about OP5t except I am not sure about camera.. If it performs better than S7, I would go for it, if not I am afraid I will have to wait a bit longer or go for LG V30. I don`t care about IP certificates etc, as I always look for phone to be on dry side. All I am searching for is decent camera, so OP5t GO or NO-GO?

Please lets put pixels aside, we are looking for pixel size + sensors..
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] JDROIDS:
Yeah I just returned my Pixel 2XL and I am ordering the 5t. It wasn't the price. I think having 8 gigs of RAM and a greater screen to body ratio along with much easier and assured custom ROM development, make it worth it over the Pixel 2XL regardless of price.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Devhux:
Going to wait until people here get to try out the camera. After both Mashable and Mr. Mobile commented on camera quality issues, I'm a little torn.

https://youtu.be/dOFa-TsPoGk (Mr Mobile)

http://mashable.com/2017/11/20/oneplus-5t-review/
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
Since I only use the camera for an occasional Instagram or Facebook post, it really doesn't concern me. Reviews seem to be split on camera quality. Some praise it, some don't. It's probably somewhere in the middle and that is good enough for me.

Had my 8GB order placed by 9:02AM. Estimated delivery on the 24th.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] lensgrabber:
Still my favorite phone of all time but man you're holding on for the long haul. Now that I think about it, it's only been three and a half years. Seems so much longer than that. Imagine the speed bump from the One.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] usmanxhmed:
I was not saying, i know it all, or you cannot have your own reasons, i was saying button shade is not the thing usually people decide their purchase on, benefit of OP5T is you can root it and put any button shade you want. Who knows if they will not put solid button shade in Oreo as well. HTC/Sammy is skinned, most don't like it here i guess. Hard to customize them as well if can't be rooted.

iPhone is better, if you can add couple of features to it, like for me ability to freeze desired apps and reduce the price by 300$. Or i can give my money to Apple just for their keyboard, Gosh iOS keyboard typing is like it's typing it self, you never have to correct anything, prettier Apps are something else.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
I have an iPhone 6S for work. I despise the Apple keyboard. To each his/her own.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] barondebxl:
May I ask why OnePlus over pixel 2 XL?

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It was for me until I saw battery tests. Amoled and battery life swayed me to the 5T

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Camera and display for S8. Performance and support for OnePlus. Both devices are excellent really. People like to talk about Samsung and all that but theS8 is a fantastic device. Plenty of features, probably the best all around of 2017 when you consider size, specs, price and features. But the OnePlus 5T is the phone to get for stock Android folks that like that fluidity and speed or stock Android as well as wanting to root and all of that. No IP67 ratings nor wireless charge and all that though. I ordered 5T and I'm super noticeable excited. I don't use wireless charging, I don't go swimming with my phone nor do I take it in the shower but it still cool features to have . I will miss some of the Sammy features but I'll live. I'm excited!
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
My Pixel 2 XL often had to reload apps. And I'm talking about small built in apps like the dialer or messages, etc. The Pixel 2 XL needs more RAM.

Also the larger top bezel bothered me a bit, especially when the huge curves at the corners of the screen. Just looked top heavy.

Also, many of the apps I used didn't use the full screen.

These were just a few reasons. I know the OnePlus 5 was fluid and never had problems with RAM. So I figure the 5T should be just as good, if not better.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] barondebxl:
Totally understand and good reasons. I think the 5T is the perfect alternative to the pixel so great choice.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Heisenberg420:
This thing has UFS storage, right?
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Mario1337:
Yes but the HTC has a bigger battery and at the moment there are no drain tests on the u11+. We will see
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] barondebxl:
Oh my bad u said U11+ I thought u said regular U11
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] keyzjh:
Yes UFS 2.1
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] aenews:
Already purchased early today within a few hours from open sales. Trying to sell my OP5 as quickly as possible. Yes I upgrade pretty much every time OnePlus releases a new phone. They also tend to have very high resale value, so it's well worth it especially if I sell ahead of time. Also I used the student discount on the 5T, so it was cheaper than the 5.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Gian #15:
Hi all,

tomorrow I'll receive my 5T, I have already bought OPO and OPT. Fantastic phones!
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] lordneopt:
No. Like the 3T it will have less support over timeline, the 3 will have the same support as the 3T that was released 6 months later, they will both die on Oreo and that isn't a fair play from Oneplus.

Rather wait for the regular version of the 6 and get it so i can have 2 full major Android updates and not just one for their idiotic policies.

Crap decisions make crap devices and the 5T is no exception.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
That is your opinion and we all know what opinions are like. :)
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] lordneopt:
We also know people who buy stuff also has to make arguments for buying that stuff. My argument is a real and very bothering one. If i'm spending 500 on a phone i will take two years support, not near one. Having only a major release as an update is total garbage for a phone priced as high as this one is. Not even taking in consideration all the other downsides it has for that.

If you bought a crappy 5T and are trying to justify your purchase, that's cool. Still has lower time support versus a non T version, which funny fact should be arriving March or April with the new 6.

So, if people do not desperately need a new phone waiting to get more time with a already expensive phone is a much more sane and well thought decision.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Bee:
Honestly I've wanted to buy a OP since the OPO but I have never been a real fan of the fingerprint on the front screen so when they managed the last bit (fingerprint on the back) I was caught.

You could say it was the last part to convince me.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
I'd put the 5T up against any phone on the market. It runs circles around even the Pixel 2 XL and most likely will continue to do so even if it were stuck on 7.1.1 for the next two years.

Software updates don't always mean a better experience, take iOS for example. It's been a mess since iOS 7.

I don't need to justify my choice. I know it's a good one.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] lordneopt:
iOS is not the piece of software that it once was, it's garbage now, it even sutters on newer hardware, not a problem with the hardware but with the lack of optimizations.

Furthermore i'm not asking for a 4 year old device to be updated, i'm asking 2 years, two major versions like Google demands to access the play services. A device with two years is more than capable to fluid nice if the software is optimized, so cut the chitchat talk because that makes no sense.

People tend to turn fanboyism into an extreme, this case of the updates is a total bull****. Oneplus is not a cool one doing this, it has to respect the times she agree to provide software updates. Releasing this pseudo refreshes mid year and not supporting them like a new device but as the older one is bull****.

I couldn't care less about oneplus, google, apple, etc. I buy my devices for what i think and believe i need, and i believe this marketing strategy of not providing a proper timeline with refreshes is bad for the people who buy the T vs the regular version. So, if you think it's the right one, good for you, people with the 6 will be laughing hard with one more android update just 4 or 5 months later while you have to be flashing custom roms and so if you are patient enough not even have the proper blobs.

That said, good for you with the T. It's your money, your phone. Still a ****ty purchase to me.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
By your logic then, only a Pixel device would be a good choice. Samsung, LG, etc., all are horrible with updates.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] barondebxl:
You need a cup of coffee
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] gianton:
My OPO is running Oreo, the most important thing to me is dev support and OP devices have that.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Griffiths_Anna:
This might be a lil bit out of topic, so I really want to buy this phone so bad, I got a friend who lives in Washington dc and can order me oneplus 5t from there but she said that a lot of times although the website says that the shipping cost is free at the end they will charge you around 21 percent for the service tax etc... Honestly I don't even understand about the regulation in the US cause I live in Indonesia

Is this even true? If not, can someone explain it to me? Especially someone that has ordered oneplus 5t through the oneplus website?

Thank you
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] robinsc:
Already got it. Just saw the pros and though I was saying I won't get another phone with no removable battery or expandable storage basically that's not an option eanymore. And this is the best price performance in a Qualcomm 835 flagship/flagship killer.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Rebel7022:
Yes this phones is dope
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] vimto25:
Got mine today from O2 in the uk, come from op5. Very happy with my choice. A very good polished phone. Not only is it a winner when it comes to performance it's now got killer looks that competes with all the 1k flagships.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] iamterence:
Did everyone here order on launch day? Or has anyone order the day after. I wanna know if anyone who ordered a day later have gotten theirs yet, or what their ETA is
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Sisyphus306:
I ordered on release day and got it yesterday. I'm only 20 miles North of you, so I imagine you'll get yours Monday or Tuesday, assuming it shipped the same day you ordered it.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] iamterence:
When I ordered on the 22nd the shipping date or whatever was supposedly Dec 5th. But I've been seeing basically everyone saying how they've gotten their devices way earlier than the site said
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Mike02z:
Yes, I'm getting one even though I'm on VZW. I got a single line plan with T-Mobile and if I have reception where I need it, I'll likely move to T-Mobile as VZW is a PITA and too expensive.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Rebel7022:
You got this Bro. DooozE iT. Sounds like a plan. I been done that
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] stankyou:
Does anyone know if the 5T only have one model worldwide or is there sort of a Global vs US & Canada versions out?
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] egren58:
Traded my note 8 for it..
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] bkeaver:
Ordered mine. Returned the V30 and returning the S8 active for it as well.. [emoji16]
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] temporarium:
Out of curiosity, what was wrong (less appealing) about those two?
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] bkeaver:
Several things. I carry 2 devices this condenses it down to one, price, root, custom roms. I have has all but one plus 5 and love oxygenos over Samsung and LG UI.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] penfold:
does no one care about the crap camera?

I was planning on getting it but after I saw the full size samples (from the non-paid off reviewers) I can't have all my photos looking like oil paintings with no detail. I need a decent camera ....my moto x pure (with snap camera) still takes far better pictures than this garbage.

I'll still wait to see if they manage to fix it with a software update otherwise no dice.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] bkeaver:
No I don't. First off historically one plus cameras are sufficient and especially for the price point. I'm not paying 1000 bucks for this phone and you need to keep that in perspective. So for a 500 buck phone the camera can be loomed at as ok and that's fine for me. If you want a better one then spend more for another phone.

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[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Soufiansky:
It may be fixed with a software update, just wait.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
One would hope so. I'm sure they are getting many complaints.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Fir3blade:
Hell no this is OnePlus, did they ever fix a camera with a software update?

You have been sarcastic, didn't you?
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Quinnaay:
Had mine a few days now S7 edge is sold, this is 100x better.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] keyzjh:
The oil paintings are caused by the HDR mode (at least in my experience). I always turn it off now, and the picture quality is still decent,

It's not S8 or Pixel great, but it is more than decent, especially in good lighting conditions

It does deteriorate noticeably in low light conditions though.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] iamterence:
Yeah, I definitely noticed this earlier. HDR is a no go for this
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
Gonna shelf this a while and go back to the Note 8 until it gets some camera updates -- if at all.