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[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] combat goofwing:
You can now register for Oreo. 8.1 beta update ,via OTA.No need to side load or wipe device
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] jmljel:
When I use my earpiece I notice that it doesn't record my voice using non-google apps such as what's app. However, phone calls, google voice search, etc. work fine. Are there any other people having the same issue? If unplug my earpiece everything works as expected.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Emanuel09:
downloaded and installed 8.1

i like it, for now i dont have any issues, is more faster than 7.1.1 because i had very lag before. and the camera is more faster now
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] chiadrum:
Does anyone know if the OTA flashes fine with root/unlocked bootloader? (On 7.1.1 Stock NMJ51B) Never installed a ROM or really used root for that matter. I did that to try and get Viper to work but I gave up.

Essential support said they don't know of any issues but also referred me to XDA.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] peturd:
I'm having the same issue with video calls on Facebook messenger as well as using the speakerphone on messenger. Didn't have this issue before I flashed the beta OTA
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Locura18:
Same here if I'm on speakerphone. I guess a factory reset would fix it. But I haven't had the time.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] peturd:
Yeah honestly it's not a huge deal breaker. Im enjoying the speed of this beta more than I would talking to people. Funny how phones work.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] srgrusso:
I feel stupid for asking this question but how do you remove an app icon from the home screen? Long pressing does nothing for me. Am I missing something obvious?

Thanks

Edit: never mind must of been a glitch. I rebooted my phone and was able to long press and remove it. :o
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] jblaze10:
I got the beta ota 8.1, it downloaded and installed fine and for that matter has been great! I went to set a location smart Lock and confirmed pin lock. The header says smart Lock but screen is blank https://photos.app.goo.gl/anP6UZD9tF1GOwNw2.

I did search and found nothing, sry if been posted and I am aware it is beta, just reporting.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] dhorgas:
Any updates on a new beta build?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] spotmark:
After only 2 weeks?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] dhorgas:
Yes. After two weeks. Agile development and all they are doing is tweaking the OS, not developing it from scratch.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] spotmark:
Good luck with that.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] dhorgas:
Apple has a 2-week beta cadence. Many companies have it as well.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Skripka:
And a bit coincidentally Apple has lots of folks unhappy with the final consumer OTAs of iOS 11, if the internet is to be believed.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] dhorgas:
You shouldn't believe the internet in this case. It's skewed by a few vocal complainers. iOS 11 and its revisions are no more or less solid than 10 or 9 before it.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] lazybum131:
I have the same problem, tried Skype, FB Messager and WhatsApp, and it continues even when plugged into a headset. No issues during normal calls though, on speakerphone or with a headset. I just got the phone a few days ago, immediately installed Nougat updates followed by the OTA 8.1 update when it came down after registering on Essential's website.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] rignfool:
Send them an email... Or buy another device...

No one here is in direct contact with anyone... And if they are... They ain't telling...

No one likes ETA requests...
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] dhorgas:
Yes, thanks for your advice. I don’t think I expected anyone to be in direct contact per say, but a question not asked is a question not answered. Either way, looks like we’re into another multi-month ride before we get official 8.1.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] rignfool:
If you're feeling antsy... There is a LineageOS that everything works but OK Google with the screen off...
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] VennligFiende:
Better have a longer beta cycle than rush out the door with stuff that has known issues. There will be always post release issues but minimizing its number via a longer beta cycle is perfectly fine.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] dhorgas:
I agree with this, but it can’t be indefinitely long. If anything they should just address the deep sleep issue and then they can take their time with other things. The deep sleep is a pretty critical fix. Anyway, sit and wait I guess.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] VennligFiende:
How their Product Owner prioritizes things depends on many factors. I have 3 development teams under me and I don't always agree witht he PO calls and neither do the teams but in the end is up tp the business people to balance all competing issues and make a decision.

For a first version, it had its expected fair share of trouble and it is getting better. I bought a few PH-1s to give to my dev teams and all but one person are using them as their primary phones.

We don't do much dev for mobile devices but all my guys and gals are very senior devs and very discerning. The fact they are using the PH-1 is a good indication. I personally own 2 and it works well for what I use it.

I cannot recall on rev 1 product that did not have problems. You learn a lot from those. If you survive that beating you may go into great things....

BTw, I am no fan boy, if something comes with the same stock Android and materials, I will try them as well.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] navimpact:
After updating to 8.1 B1, I noticed that much more storage space is being used. My phone is showing 22GB under System. What are others seeing for storage used on 8.1?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] derausgewanderte:
21gb, but I don't know what it was before and what apps shoved into system. Overall I have more storage because I started fresh.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] SteveHG:
24.6 GB here. It was simillar in 7.1
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] mrthink:
Essential just officially released Oreo 8.1

From twitter @ 1.04PM EST:

"We're excited to announce the full release of Android Oreo 8.1 on Essential Phone! Check your phone now for the update."

The download servers seem a bit overwhelmed (1GB download).
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] jonsama585:
I was on 8.1 BETA and checked to see if I had a system update for the official 8.1, turns out I did and the update was supposed to fix screen jitter scrolling, have march security patches and enable dynamic icons for calendar, total was about 278 MB.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Caltinpla:
Available OTA ... Updating now!
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Bet this is official release of the beta only. Wouldn't get too excited.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Skripka:
No it is a new build. March security patch
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
So a new build they didn't test and is only approx. 300mb, the standard size of a security update?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Skripka:
OTAs only need deltas...not a whole new OS. Which if you're already on Oreo shouldn't be that gigantic.

If you're coming from Nougat..then yea it should be a 1gb download
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Yes and an ota security update is the same size. I pretty much guarantee it has no changes from the beta, but feel free to prove me wrong
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Skripka:
People on Reddit report among other things that navbar hiding is implemented.

300MB of deltas is not "no changes".
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Again, when you get a monthly security update it is around that exact size.

I'll get to go check Reddit
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Skripka:
One gent reports the kernel version is now 4.4.120 with the OTA...so a new kernel as well....which quite fankly is very rare. Most handsets go stangant on the kernel and lock it in forever once RTM of the handset happens
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] rignfool:
Yes... Go get "news" from Reddit...

This was the laugh I needed
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_head:
Flashed my 8.1B back to stock from Magisk and ElelementalX kernel.

Taking OTA now
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Did I say anything about news? I said to see any features people may have noticed

Geez every thread I see you in you're being an ahole. Having an every day period or something? Xda the only place you can be a **** without getting a shot in the mouth?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] rignfool:
If every post you made didn't include your "I'm always right attitude" I wouldn't have ammunition...

I am usually pretty helpful... And I dig thru parts of Android that most don't...

However I have read... And do understand... Which I can't say for most...

You realize this is a developers forum... We don't hold hands... We don't sugar coat...

Obviously there is enough information that most can figure it out... But when sorting thru crapposts... It get tough
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
You're like this in every thread to everyone.

Glad you feel big behind a computer screen though!
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] rignfool:
No... It's just you snowflake
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_head:
Can we all get along?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] jonsama585:
Well I can say the default camera app got more grainy for regular photos and takes better low light pics. The twitchy multitouch was fixed.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] cabegol:
I connected my Sony MDR-1000X and it shows LDAC as the codec. Is that just a cosmetic feature, or is it really using the LDAC technology? I had assumed it was working...
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Wanya79:
Hi there, i received today my PH-1 and install fresh the Android 8.0 Beta, how is it possible to force every App into Fullscreen? i've tried that with adb shell settings put global ESSENTIAL_LAYOUT_WHITELIST "*", the command was recognized and reboot then, but nothing changed for example in Youtube or Instagram, then i tried to put in the command per app com.google.android.youtube and com.instagram.android but after reboot, doesn't work, any Tipps?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] DROIDESP:
So more sneak peek than beta.... At least they put up a nice feedback form on it.

I was hoping for additional builds through to the 8.1 launch :)
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDethEgineer:
I dont know about 8.1, but for 8.0 this is what they answered me:

Our plan is that the next Oreo build will be the official release. If we see a need to spin another beta build given our feedback from beta we will.

Another beta build will likely be sideload but the OFFICIAL Oreo release will be an OTA.

-Marcus

At the moment we're only planning on the one build, but that's something we'll be re-addressing as the beta continues.

And yes, any future beta builds will need to be sideloaded.

-Sean
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] luyen:
Have anyway to delete single history call ? I found option to delete all call history only.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] 12paq:
Essential stopped the white list on the last couple updates for Nougat.

I use this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.tsdo.elw

Works fine.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] mackentosh:
Anybody having issue with the phone going into a deep sleep and not being able to unlock unless you hold the power button down?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Msean.o:
Nvm.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Msean.o:
Does anyone else's wifi signal cluster say "HD"? I've never seen this before. I'm assuming it's related to wifi calling, but I'm not sure
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Msean.o:
Yes. Happened to me like ten minutes ago
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] jasonevil:
so far, working great. I was able to add substratum and change themes as well using andromeda. It seems like once a theme is added it shows up in settings under display - advanced - device theme. you can change themes then once you have activated them the normal way under than menu without plugging into a pc...
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] 2015Ducatimulti:
isaw your post and went and looked under the display settings and advance and I see no device theme, I have the unlocked version and I`m on 8.0 Beta
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] jasonevil:
i tested it first and revised my post. i believe substratum adds that into the settings.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] mackentosh:
Do you have any mods running for kernel or navbar hider, I'm trying to narrow it down
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] P4ndur:
I had issues with waking up the phone. For me it was because of hiding the navigation bar. Seems that Oreo have some issue with forcing Immersive mode.

See also this thread:

https://xdaforums.com/pixel-xl/help/android-oreo-immersioln-mode-problems-t3666479

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[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] JCBomb:
When they say you can just go back to the old build, does that mean we can sideload the old build without having to wipe the device?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott41373:
Holy battery drain, Batman!
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] prgopala:
I have the location icon constantly on the status bar. Not sure what app is requesting location continuously. Or is this an oreo bug?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] okgnew:
Do you get random reboots and application crashes?

E.g. Chomp SMS crashes regularly.

Also battery drain is worse than stock 7.1.1
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] DROIDESP:
Any ideas what is causing it? I am not seeing any excessive drain on mine.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] elkay:
I will say, I already miss the battery stats of Nougat (not Essential's fault).
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] luyen:
I got a notification "Mobile Data Has Run Out" sometime and no way to clear :(
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Wanya79:
Me too, it's even there when i close all the App's
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] xxBrun0xx:
Yes this is an Oreo bug. The essential team said during the last ama that this will be fixed in next update (which should be official Oreo).
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] prgopala:
Thanks mate
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] dca1970:
it seems that "lift phone to wake" has been replaced with "double tap to wake"
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] luyen:
no, I think double tap to wake is not available for this phone, because this feature based on hardware specs, not by software only.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Tikerz:
For real. In 15 hours 52% drained with the screen OFF and only 26% drained with the screen ON. 2 hours of SOT.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Scott41373:
Not sure. I went to bed with 54% , woke up to 11%. It says Google play services was 18%, and that screen on time was 1hour 48 minutes since last full charge. I did the install as a flash over existing data, not a full wipe. I'm sure a fresh flash would help, just haven't gotten around to it yet.

---------- Post added at 05:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:16 PM ----------

Mine drained quicker than that. I guess what gets me is the overnight loss. I also have a persistent background notification for ACR, a call recording app I use. It does not show that app in the battery statistics.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] elkay:
Something is causing a wakelock. The device doesn't sleep at all. It's not as easy to see with Oreo battery stats, but this gives it away. My active time is same as my last unplugged time of 7h38m. I only had the screen on 1.5h of that.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] dca1970:
I have not noticed any difference in battery drain. at least with screen off. lost 13% in 10 hours last night. I have very few apps installed though.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] jasonevil:
So far battery is good for me. Been off charger for 10 hours now and I'm at 52% left.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] vergilbt:
Got an hot reboot after I was missing a call and want to open phone app? Anyone else expiring same?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Teloah:
Anyone having trouble setting a lower ringer volume? It automatically goes back to a higher volume when I set it to almost quiet. If I set to a higher volume it sticks.

I have also had some random reboots. Maybe I should to a clean install?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] okgnew:
Yes, I get random hot reboots about once a day.

Also have random app crashes about 3 times a day.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] VennligFiende:
So far, the only "problem" I got is that in Camera Zoom FX sometimes makes the phone vibrate. Weirs bit not a big issue.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] billybong10:
Got a reboot in the middle of the night...was stuck on boot screen for a half-hour. Ended up hard resetting and now it works but can't unlock with fingerprint. It's not even an option.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] OldManJax:
Having issues with the sound not working. I have to reboot and when I try to reboot the phone hangs up. I have to hold the power button for a while for it to come back on.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] JCBomb:
I really hope they bring back their b/w lift to wake screen.

This Oreo one is lameO.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] italiangi:
I did
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Teloah:
I agree.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] DROIDESP:
I don't charge my phone at night (just because it's not convenient) last night was the first night where the battery dropped significantly 100% to 9% in the AM. I am not that worried about it since Essential clearly listed battery drain issues with this Beta.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] barmar12:
It is possible to go back to the nougat?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] JoRocker:
Hmmm.... I wonder if that's mentioned in the OP? I'm not sure... You might want to read it to find out.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Mania626:
They better come out with a second beta fast ,lol, my phone is constantly freezing and rebooting a lot.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] rignfool:
Why would I bother to read the OP when I can just ask you? /s
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] NavySpark:
I know it's only been a few days but I'm reverting back to 7.1.1 Battery life not nearly as stellar and I have had a few losses of all sound as well as location bug. Nothing too serious but ill wait for final release to see if it's all ironed out. I do like the 8.0 notifications but everything else was very minor upgrade for me.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] elkay:
Got my first hot reboot clicking to watch a Youtube video from a Facebook link. Been stable until now. Battery life is still an issue, but they said that right off the bat. Hope they can narrow down what is causing the wakelock. On N the only time I got a wakelock was from using Hotspot.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] ad78:
my beatsX volume were not functioning. for now im using my Sony XBA 2.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] tomzefi:
Wired. I have not had one issue yet. Day 2.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] jnclocker:
Battery life is stellar on this build. Clean install.. going all day without charging. Best I have seen in a long time.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] superior8888:
Happy for you. And the constant lag and stuttering? [emoji6]

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[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] NavySpark:
Don't get me wrong it was good, but I was getting close to 7-8 hours SOT and drain of only a few percent if left untouched through the night for 7.1.1 I often went two days without charging with my usage.

I was able to get about 1.5 days with Oreo but needed that charge the second day for sure. I am sure Essential will clear up the issues by release.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] superior8888:
The worry is tho nougat is also stuttering. I hope they be able to fix that. I mean lineage is smooth as butter.

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[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Teloah:
A noob question, but I'll ask anyway. Is it the same outcome to do a system reset or a flash with wipe? And can I flash the OTA beta after wipe?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] JoRocker:
You can sideload adb with a wipe and would probably get better results. Next beta probably won't be OTA, but official will be. Hope that answers your question.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] glasscitysd:
Anybody getting video stutter with no sound? Goes away when I turn the phone off and on but keeps coming back after awhile
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] jnclocker:
I haven't noticed anything yet. What's amazing is the battery life... Unbelievable
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] superior8888:
Keep going then [emoji4] dont try lineage, youll never go back [emoji23]

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[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] mhajii210:
Lineage

I actually sent them feedback about Oreo beta. I told them performance and touch scrolling is still horrible on stock Oreo beta. I suggested they checkout Lineage and try to copy whatever Lineage is doing right. It's like a completely different phone. I was about to switch to OnePlus 5T until I tried Lineage. Now at least I can patiently wait for Oreo 8.1 to see if stock finally catches up to Lineage.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] elkay:
Actually, I must say, contrary to prior posts, scrolling on this release is the best of any so far. Any lag is see now is only attributed to LCD refresh rate vs. OLED. It pretty good now.
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] superior8888:
It might be the best so far, but dont fool yourself with that. Its 4gb ram and sd835, this shouldnt be laggy AT ALL. It should run like it does in lineage. If you say its pretty good you havent tried.

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[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] glasscitysd:
So is lineage pretty much Rock solid considering switching over from this beta the installation seems straight forward. I imagine even though I have the sprint variant I'd be able to switch to it still?
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] superior8888:
Yeh, it stable. Some users say mic is bad and ppl cant hear them but i dont have the issue.

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[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] glasscitysd:
Guess I'll give it a shot if I have mic issues I'll just go back to stock no biggie
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Wanya79:
I must say i've got horrible Accu Drain, with Plane Mode on i lost over night 14 Percent!! how can that be?! i have no clue, Accu Statistics sayin nothing, ok i use Bluetooth a lot, but with Plane Mode on every connection is cut off and then still 14 Percent?!
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] superior888:
edit: Sorry wrong forum

edit2: but dude, it's a beta. it also says to expect battery drain. come on ;)
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] Wanya79:
After installing GSAM Battery Monitor, i found at, that at the Top there are Android Kernel (OS) and RCS (Phone) , so what can i do to avoid this from sucking my Accu down..
[Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion] superior888:
Give it a couple of cycles.