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[LG G6 Questions and Answers] One Twelve:
ok, lets try something more powerful

Ever heard of

battery historian

Been following that tool for a couple of years but it was too involved to setup. Now its much easier. You can either run it locally on a PC or upload your zipped log file to a server he has setup.

What you do is

- Run your phone down to 10% from full. Use your phone as you would normally with 4g

- go to developer options - Take a bug repport ( dialog window appears with two options on my v20. Interactive and full report. Choose full report.

- when it finishes, you get an option only to share. Choose gmail or google drive. It will upload it. You can then download it.

Now the server he has setup is

here

Upload the zipped log file and click submit, it will analyse your log files and present you with a historian v2 graph and a table.

Screen shot the historian graph, looks like

this

Screen shot the aggregated stats table, looks like

this

Post the screen shots here. Let's see what shows up :)

Quote my post so i get a notification

The problem is with your use, maybe settings and or apps. Could be hardware but leave that for the end. This thread is quite short six months later. So some permutation of the three has reduced your sot to half. Hoping Oreo will fix it is a long shot since it isn't a G6 problem. best is to fix it now if possible
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Sid@developer:
Thnx a lot... Will do it tomorrow...
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Sid@developer:
Hi... Chk My screenshots... Some Kernal wakelocks are too high... [MENTION=5512893]One Twelve[/MENTION]
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] One Twelve:
- see the top cpu running line and compare with screen. When screen is on cpu is running mostly. This is normal. If there was much cpu running with screen off that would be a cause for concern

- this happens between 10:30 and 1pm you are using the screen less but still there is a lot of activity going on and this is over data (battery drops 85 ->65%) what was it doing ?

- gps is not used at all

- doze only activates partially because phone is active.

- what is drain like when you're not using the phone, 3 to 4:30pm, drain looks like 2% per hour but full doze still does not activate which is curious as Wifi is off too. Doze is only partial

- your mobile radio signal is good enough (lots of green :good: ) but data will drain battery faster than wifi

- your drain with screen off is 1.9%/h which is good

- when you do use the screen 1:30 - 3pm there is a drop (65 - 35%) over wifi with good signal strength

- there is a crash around 1:30, what happened ? hover over the one red dot under crashes (logcat)

What i'd like to know is what was the battery temperature range through the cycle, lowest to highest

If you still think there is idle drain, then we need to see what drain is like when it is really idle. Whether full doze activates. So charge up before you sleep and lets see how much is lost over night. Post the battery historian screenshot and device estimate like before
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Sid@developer:
For Doze... I already Use Force Doze...And that app crash was just once...I know that app. 3-4:30...I kept slept... 1-3 ws watching some YouTube videos I guess... Morning I ws busy...with my works... So didn't use my phone that much...

And ya... will Charge and chk my overnight drain and Post the same?
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] One Twelve:
Has it helped much ?

What was drain like before using force doze, i mean just with stock. There shouldn't be a need to use force doze on N

Doze controls wakelocks and bunches up jobs so they are run at the same time so as to allow the phone to sleep longer

Full doze should have activated then even for a short while but it did not

25% drop over just three hours. Is this normal ?

something was happening, check what it is
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Sid@developer:
I noticed a slight difference when I started using Force Doze....

Ya.. I also saw... Full doze not activated...But I dont know why...

25% Drop is not normal...

I will uninstall some unnecessary apps now and charge up the device to around 70-80%... Then Keep it overnight and lets see... What is happening...

I will keep my data and Wifi Off...
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] One Twelve:
Try without force doze from now on to see whether it is interfering with stock doze.

Right, its four times too much. What caused it, you will have to hover over 'top app' line of the graph in those areas and see which apps were active. In theory it should also have slept during that time but got prevented

Yes, that will make for a good baseline to compare with another night with wifi and data on

What was the battery temperature range during that run ? highest and lowest. if you hover over and move along the temperature line it will tell you
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Sid@developer:
To my surprise.... Overnight Battery Drain was NIL and I didn't see your message yesterday... So I didn't turn of Force Doze.

Yesterday, I charged upto 70% and slept... morning also...it was the same. Doze was fully activated....

Le me try another night with WiFi or data On.

Battery Temp was normal all day....
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] One Twelve:
Aha so full doze worked when wifi is off. Since there was no drain then there are no wakelocks or apps trying to get out either

I looked at your first graphs again and your avg off screen drain was 1.9%/h and not 14% as i thought. This means there isn't much drain going on

Try with force doze on, since you had it for the last one but with wifi on for the second test

For the third test try with force doze off and wifi on and we will see whether force doze has any effect or not
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Sid@developer:
[MENTION=5512893]One Twelve[/MENTION]

Here are todays stats... In the last screenshot.... Idle has taken 12%... I don't know whats going on behind that process....
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] One Twelve:
ok, so you decided to spend the day with wifi off.

See the difference, during the morning when you work, there is hardly any drop. Full doze has activated. This is good

Your screen off discharge rate is now 1.24%/h and total discharge was 8%, yesterday it was 1.9%/h with a total of 14% so you gained 6% with wifi off

Yesterday your idle was 14%, today it is 12%

You were on data an hour longer today compared to yesterday for similar sot

lets see what tonight with wifi on will be like
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Sid@developer:
[MENTION=5512893]One Twelve[/MENTION]

Here is yesterday nights data...with WiFi on... The phone went in doze... but the CPU ws On.... 8% overnight drain...

Those kernal wakelocks are the culprits....
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] One Twelve:
Was this with force doze on ?

I don't see a problem here. CPU running looks normal. Doze has activated fully. The drain is due to wifi being on. Your screen off drain is 0.54% or 6% total which is good. With AOD it would be higher.

Doze batches up jobs and gets them done at once, you can see it did at 5:30 then the phone went back to sleep

Yur next night run should be with wifi on and force doze off or disabled and we will see how well stock does
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] louvass:
My G6 has been pretty good with idle drain since purchased. The past week it been draining 40% at night. I did a factory reset and went complete stock no other apps installed, stop the bloat and uninstalled most of it and still lose about 30% at night now. I reset it about 5 times with no change. Any ideas ?
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] One Twelve:
See post

#39

Post screen shots

Let's learn to use this powerful tool :)
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Sid@developer:
[MENTION=5512893]One Twelve[/MENTION]

Here You go.... Wifi on...Forcedoze off... It goes into doze...but after a while....
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] One Twelve:
Still think you have idle battery drain ?
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Sid@developer:
Not really...But Getting less SOT and What is going on behind Phone Idle in battery usage section ?
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] One Twelve:
Today when you finish your cycle check if phone idle reported in battery stats matches that in historian

For the last two work days was phone idle higher than screen % in the android battery stats ?

How much more SOT were you getting earlier during your day cycle
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Sid@developer:
at least 4 1/2 to 5...SoT
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Freakintoddles:
Another one here

I always has great battery life on my G6 until the last Verizon security update that was pushed to my phone. I now get the same problem you all are getting, last night my phone dropped 22% battery life while I was sleeping and that was with airplane mode and battery saver mode both on. Almost all of that was used by "Phone idle" which is absurd. I will try this battery detective tool but I just wanted to report in first.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] kurskoo40:
Is this a greenify alternative or something? BTW I tried it and it's indeed much better than Greenify.

Thanks!
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Percy247:
Wow this battery historian tool provides a lot of information but I am bit overwhelmed by it all. Can anyone point me in the direction of good guide to understanding it or let me know what the most important items are? I am also confused about a number of figures where it does not give me any useful information such as following;

1. Device power estimates - 0 - unaccounted 55.15%

2. Kernel wake up reasons - 0 - unknown - 60 times an hour and 1945 times in total.

Otherwise things seem to make sense. Duration 34h 44, SOT 1h13, Screen off discharge 2.27%/hr, screen on discharge 17.13%/hr. what are userspace wakelocks (45min) Kernel wakelocks (35min) and wake up reasons (26 min)? Are these good or bad figures?
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] dollarpapa:
I guess I'm joining the club here with the idle drain on my G6. It's not my main phone, but the entire reason I'm not using is because the poor battery life.

I had no heart selling it, because otherwise it's an excellent phone, so instead I bought a battery monster (Zplay) and use that as my main phone, but I miss my wide angle lens and the smaller size.

Unlike the OP, I get a much worse idle drain, and this phone was just factory reset and currently it has no SIM in it, only wifi connected. NFC, Bluetooth turned off.

Facebook/messenger lite installed, signed into my google account, no games installed. All updates were installed prior so, it wasn't (or shouldn't ) have been installing anything overnight, there were only facebook notifications in the morning.

So, what happened the first night , screen locked and do-not-disturb on, the phone went from 100% to 79% overnight, between 1am-9am. I even had the always on display turned off.

So, no SIM card, wifi-connected only, bluetooth/nfc - off.

All updates installed prior to full charge.

Everything stock, factory default.

100% start.

Do Not Disturb -on

Always On Display - off.

It's a Tmobile/ unlocked LG G6

I want to investigate this, because I miss this phone, the Zplay is nice, but I like this phone better, plus it's a learning experience.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] dollarpapa:
I got a tip from someone, I can't find the post.

Basically you gotta reset to factory default, and do an incremental setup from there. This may or may not work, I don't know. So far, the phone is acting differently than any other time. Here is what I did, starting from the language selection after the phone rebooted and it's on factory default with nothing installed:

1. Enabled wifi

2. didn't sign in to google, skipped.

3. didn't make a fingerprint lock skipped.

4. didn't enable location , skipped.

5. did not enable some statistics access and google backup.

6. did not install LG app updates.

--

When I was finally on the home screen, I split up the google store apps what to update, while the phone was put back on the charging cable.

After 1 hour, I installed the other half of the google updates.

After that, I went into the apps and disabled a bunch (google music, google tv etc..I don't use these, disabled gmail too, I'll be using the LG mail , which can be modified when is peak-time when is off peak time how many times to check emails , etc) . Also disabled main Tmobile app (my phone is an unlocked Tmobile) which I have no use for.

Updated some LG software (I don't use evernote so no for that) popping up.

Had the phone set for another hour.

Downloaded Facebook Lite and Messenger Lite, signed in.

Downloaded Spotify, Amazon Music (I may delete them)

Downloaded my podcast app, signed in.

Downloaded my weather app (I don't set up a weather widget, old habit)

Enabled Always On Display.

Enabled location services for some apps.

NFC still off, Bluetooth still off.

Removed the phone from the charger and it's been sitting for 2hrs , I unlocked the screen 3 times so far; I've read some facebook posts, checked the weather.

It's still on 100%.

I'll see what happens later, I still don't have the SIM card in it, I'm using my other phone for now.

I won't put it back on the charger, let it sit overnight and see how it's gonna be tomorrow morning, I'm curious what the idle battery drain percentage will be
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] paxsax:
Thanks for the tips,

About gmail you're right, LG can handle peak period, however LG mail client can sync maximum 2 months, how do you manage it?

Thanks
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] clouds5:
I have a crazy drain caused by "com.android.phone"

ACTION_CHECK_NETSTAT which wakes my phone about 10 times per minute :eek: :D

any idea whats causing this? --> see screenshot
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] paulmt123:
I have exact same problem with g5. And that too is on Android 7.0. I think the main issue then is that it's not 7.1. I can go back to 6.0 and get much better battery drain but less smooth performance. Annoying lg won't update to 7.1.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Andrewp87:
my idle battery drain actually was normal, like 1% per hour at night, but I think it is still high and still can be improved.

then I try disable some google application like google music and google TV (i never use), it improve a lot.

I sleep for 7-8 hours and battery only drop 3%.

so my conclusion, because of nougat is the problem... we should disable as many as google application that we never use or still can be replace by other application.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] jshames:
I wish I understood what precipitates the rapid variations in idle drain. Some mornings it goes at 1-1.5% an hour and another morning with the exact same use it will be 3-4%

With no difference in settings, wi-fi, GPS or anything else I can identify.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] jshames:
Gosh my idle drain has really gone through the ceiling lately, and I don't know what has changed. Like 4-5% an hour.

The only think I can do to slow it down is to turn off data

Really annoying
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] clouds5:
I think i got my drain under control now. Did a factory reset, used the "getting the best battery life guide" and installed forced doze (root).

What I've noticed is that the LG G6 uses a lot of battery when the mobile signal is weak, compared to other devices I used in the past. Other than that it's great.

Getting through the day very consistently except one time when I used GPS navigation and was connected to the car stereo and listen to music for a long drive without power supply. But that kills every battery :)

cheers
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] jshames:
I think you're right about the cellphone signal and battery drain. The signal strength varies a lot during the day, even in one location. This might explain the extremely variable battery drain when nothing else has changed.

Hesitant to do the whole reset thing, it takes time and is just a pain in the butt. I have all kinds of security apps that would have to be reset, passwords, etc. But I might end up doing that.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] clouds5:
Just letting you guys know: For me, this wakelock was caused by "fast dormancy". Disabled it in the dialer menu and the battery drain from this particular issue was completely gone
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] LazyG:
had the issue with idle drain, switching phone off, recharging and turning back solved it at least temporary. Before restart had phone turned on without restart for a month or so.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] laoxiaohai:
I tried greenify, and it is absolutely useless. I also tried shut off always display, uninstall applications, turn off blutooth, close applications, clear out cache etc. These helps so little, it is almost no difference I can see.

I read some posts and tried turn off the screen saver from setting -->display-->screen saver, and my phone is back to normal. Everyone who still running Android 7.0 should definitely try this.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] jshames:
I'll try the screen saver thing too, but I think that's only for when the phone is plugged in anyway.

In any case even when the battery drain seems high, it then varies and slows down later in the day such that I always am no lower than 50-60% in the evening when I can get to a charger. I always make it though the day.

At work when all of my Samsung colleagues are looking for outlets, my G6 has plenty of power left.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] electrical potato:
I notice that i still have phone idle battery consumption AS i am using the phone with the screen on. I checked the hours and seconds that they are draining and they are draining at the same time.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] dmccartt88:
I am having the exact same issue. It seems like a I have tried everything to fix this problem with no results. Disabled bloatware, Cleared Cache, Multiple Factory Resets, Disabled LDB (Maybe made it worse??). Installed Better Battery Stats and going to investigate after a full battery cycle. Has anyone else been experiencing this and if so any other solutions?
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Killua96:
Did you notice it on both wifi and mobile network? Tried to disable fast dormancy in the secret menu?
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] dmccartt88:
I have just disabled it, but it has been present on Wifi and when using Mobile Data. I will see if that makes a difference going forward. The drain is real it appears. I am at 47min SOT and already at 79% battery. The idle drain last night was not bad only used about 5% but I believe the problem lies when I am using the screen. It is almost like the phone is being drained from Idle and SOT at the same time. I honestly believe this is some kind of bug and may exchange the phone during the "Buyers Remorse Period". The phone also runs pretty hot (can feel it even through the case) when I am using it. Have never encountered this before. Sucks because I am loving everything else about the G6.....
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] Killua96:
I could say the same (switching to a red OP6 in August), but in my case i've run in this issue only under mobile network, seems something due to the weak antenna and the not-perfect coverage where i live...
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] akulp:
I also have Idle batt drain from last update (ThinQ). LG G6, H870

I did factory reset, but same story. I enabled ADB things an install BetterBatteryStat in this is what I got:

https://ibb.co/jD8STo

https://ibb.co/kpd5ET

Any idea?

Thanks.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] adamz667:
I am getting 1-2% drain during the night (6-7h) on v20b with disabled some of bloat and without battery saving apps. Try AutoSync app to enable sync only after time interval, while using wifi etc... It's very helpfull for battery life.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] akulp:
I do not want to use some "dose" apss etc. to have better battery. I want to find out what is killing batt. But from pictures above I don't see any bigger consumer ...
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] fegitoli:
A lot of the apps that are made to save battery are now obsolete due to Oreo's built-in capabilities. It's probably best to avoid said apps because they may have negative effects on battery life, especially standby time. After uninstalling Greenify and forcedoze, both my standby time AND SoT increased by a couple hours. Do what you like, I'm just making suggestions.
[Tasker Tips & Tricks] clinto69:
Hi Guys,

My phone is NOT rooted. I would like to be able to receive and respond to WhatsApp Messages while driving.

Specifically

1. Receive incoming Message - Voice says "New message from xxx" "Do you want to listen?"

2. I respond Yes or No

3. If "Yes" Message is read out e.g. "What do you want for dinner tonight?"

4. After Message is read out - Voice says "Do you want to Reply?"

5. I respond Yes or No

6. If "Yes" - Voice Says "Speak Message Now"

7. I say my message e.g "Lets eat at that Thai Restaurant around the corner"

8. Voice Says (and displays) - "Did you say Let's eat at that Thai Restaurant around the corner"

9. I respond Yes

10. Message is sent

11. I respond No Voice says "Speak Message Now" or "Cancel"

Does anyone have an existing Profile or could anyone help me out with the steps?

Thanks Kindly
[Touch GSM General] RedL:
Hi guys

Any suggestions on games for my Touch? Given the processer speed etc what games will work and are safe?

Thanks a lot!
[Touch GSM General] RedL:
No one playing games on their Touch?
[Touch GSM General] be_man36:
great game I play is maggot attack pinball, im trying to find a working version of celeris virtual pool mobile but doesnt seem to wok right, cant exit the game and cant enter the menu....also a good game is bejeweled2 but that doesnt work right either
[Touch GSM General] RedL:
I agree that there are some games that just dont seem to work right (struggling to exit etc). Is the Touch unable to hanlde games then? I have a demo verion of Call of Duty 2 on which appears ok but are we left with simple stuff like pacman and bubbles only?
[Touch GSM General] trueg:
I'm currently playing Broken Sword Shadow of the Templars by Astraware. It works great and is completely stylus based, so the lack of hardware buttons is not important. After that I will be playing Siberia 1 and 2 which should be about the same.
[Touch GSM General] flaviopac:
Call of Duty 2 runs well on my Touch clocked to 260 mhz....
[Touch GSM General] sonixpl:
on mine COD2 was really slow at 312 ;|
[Touch GSM General] nik_for_you:
Age of empires works great
[Touch GSM General] EJLT:
yes, AoE is really good.

and i play Flux, Anthelion 2 and simbsoft volleyball
[Touch GSM General] Napbree:
DO you have the elfIN aka touch XL? The advanced/newer version of the touch?
[Touch GSM General] tilley123:
Monkey Island 1 and 2 for me
[Touch GSM General] Ahc2008:
Can you guys please post a link, for where we can get those guys.

For me i would like link for Age of Empires and Volleyball.

And is this for Touch (not dual)?
[Touch GSM General] tomygunner:
i installed some games on my touch and they work well.

allin holdem, billard master2, bowling master, maumau, millionaire, olmi chess(multiplayer), poker challange, sea strike, smart mahjongg, smart simon, solitaire, tropical nights and some more java games like scrabble.
[Touch GSM General] tilley123:
Download the windows CE arm package from scummvm

http://www.scummvm.org/downloads.php

And then obtain copies of monkey island 1 and 2 copy them to your mobile device and run scummvm

Its absolutely awesome
[Touch GSM General] matumartin14:
iphone icopter

Hi, I want to have iphone's game ICOPTER on my touch, but i don't know is this game available on htc touch or not? it would have a different name too, but i really want this game!!!!!!!!!
[Touch GSM General] bububang:
worms also work great :)
[Touch GSM General] matumartin14:
GBA

Can i play .GBA files on my pocket pc??
[Touch GSM General] dyter:
Picodrive

I play to Pacmania, Sonic, Xenon II, James pond II,... with picodrive and @221Mhz and work very fast !
[Touch GSM General] Rudegar:
"Can i play .GBA files on my pocket pc??"

http://sunbug.net/products/emul/PocketGBA.html

all comes to those who search

or aparently get loosers with nothing better to do to search for them ;) :P
[Touch GSM General] matumartin14:
Thanks!

But it doesn't work so well because i am getting error messages. Which buttons do you use? I have ELF 64/128