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[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] shadeau:
I was facing the same question and ultimately decided to get the OP5T because of price, headphone jack, and custom ROM use. I never had a Pixel, but I've had a great experience with Devs and ROMs in the OP3T community. I didn't have Dev previews of Oreo, but it only took 1-2 months after official Oreo release to have working Betas for Oreo on the OP3T and that was before OP released the Open Beta Oreo source tree for Devs to use. I imagine that ultimately this is going to come down to preference. I prefer the price of the OP5T compared to the Pixel 2 XL (granted Black Friday sales may skew this a bit) as it allows me the opportunity to upgrade my device more often. I've also looked heard a lot of issues with the 2 XL's screen and need a headphone jack. Granted Google will probably fix the screen issues at some point.

If you're really interested in flashing custom ROMs I'd recommend looking through the threads for the Pixel and the OP3T/OP5 to compare the selection. I expect most ROMs in the OP3T/OP5 thread will eventually make their way over to the OP5T and the same for the Pixel ones.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] decscomputer:
Same here

Just for add the pixel XL 2 take more of 2 hours for complete the charge and in my experience using it the battery drain so fast sometimes 3% without use it. I'm an user exigent when use the SmartPhone and I used the pixel XL 2 like I use the oneplus 5T and the pixel drain the battery more fast than oneplus 5T Even the pixel xl2 having the battery more big.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] fracman:
Just sold my pixel 2 xl to get op5t. Display was horrible and dev isn't gonna happen for a while if u want custom ROMs.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] x111:
google is done, 3 generations of trashy phones.

op5t is good for now.

pixel 2 phones have terrible design, huge bezels, ugly AF glass insert on the back, very poorly low body integrity, no waterproof, no wireless charging, pretty low quality Amoled screen, and where the f.... audio jack !!

there is no excuse in the world to remove audio jack !!

and on top of that it cost over $1000 !!
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] tsquare2112:
I got the Pixel 2XL and had it about a week, filled out the RMA form as soon as I could order the 5T. Oddly, my Razer Phone came in the day I ordered the 5t. The XL2 had too many screen issues for me to keep, at $1,000 it should be 100% perfect. The Razer phone is pretty nice, but after using the 5t I will be sending the Razer back tomorrow and using the 5t for the foreseable future.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] barondebxl:
So far from the truth. Trashy phones? Absolutely not.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] neocryte:
I had the Pixel 2 XL for about 2 weeks. The camera is phenomenal, blows the OP5T camera away. No comparison. But the blue shift was nuts, even when just typing on the phone the colors would change all the time. I couldn't deal with it.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
I think the camera will get better with time though.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] neocryte:
How? Lack of optical image stabilization really hurts it.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TonyHoyle:
The Pixel 2 XL is probably a better phone than the 5T.. But then there's the £350 price difference. It aint *that* much better..

I've owned Nexus phones since the Nexus 1.. when the original Pixel came out.. but I just can't see 'fast updates' is worth that much money, so I've got my first non-google phone on order.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
I sold my Pixel 2 XL for this. The camera on the Pixel is definitely better, but as far as everything else, the OnePlus 5T wins. Build, RAM management, Speed, Fluidity, etc. Even the single speaker sounds better in my opinion. Full screen apps even work better on the OnePlus.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] wolfeyes30:
I was watching your listing for the Pixel 2 Xl.

I sold my 3T and got a Pixel 2 XL and I have no issues as of yet. Fluidity, speed and ram management seem very good to me. Battery life is phenomenal averaging 7-8.5 sot daily. Not trying to start an argument I just wanted to state my experience. Enjoy your 5T man. Have fun.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] egren58:
This is ceazy lol. Idk how op5 owner can vash a puxel n vise versa..people talkcabout the pixel 2 blue shift.. u the op5t has it too!! It has rainbow effect. Also the speakers are near as good. Camara no way. The reason why me and alot of us like one plus 3 so much is because its the closest thing we can get tova pixel.. also keep in mind i chose this over the pixel 2xl as i dont believe any phone should be 1,000$ bang for buck no phone beats this...
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] acetkbez:
I have a Nexus 6P and purchased the Pixel 2 XL first. However I returned the Pixel 2 XL after a couple days because it did not feel like a worthwhile upgrade at $850. I just got the OnePlus 5T and enjoy it immensely. It feels lighter. My primary focus is not the camera. I am using the OnePlus 5T on Verizon right now. SMS, MMS, voicemail, calling is all working. However I obviously am not getting LTE, which I don't mind much since I'm always on WiFi (I am throwing in a 2gb mintsim to use for data though since the phone is dual sim and I got the mintsim deal $45 for 6 months of service).
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Negotiator50:
Had the pixel 2 xl 128 GB for 12 days. Thought it was a great phone but the blue tint and slight nav bar burn in caused me to return it. Also tried the essential phone for a few days but returned it due to the slight stutter at times. Finally got the 5T 128gb and I am blown away. It feels faster than the 2 xl if that's possible and Oxygen OS is a joy to use. The face unlock is a game changer to me and very useful. I am blown away by this phone and would recommend it over the pixel 2 xl without hesitation.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
Until you use the camera lol
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Negotiator50:
Good point. I'm not a big camera user and coming from Nexus 6, the 5T camera is good enough to for me.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] skinnytoo2:
Is the camera that bad?
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Negotiator50:
I actually think the camera is pretty good. However, the 2 XL is in a class of its own. Doesn't mean the 5T is bad. Not by any means. Just not up to the 2 XLs standard which is class leading.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] neocryte:
The camera is bad. Let's be honest. Terrible in low light, average at best in normal light.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] rickysidhu_:
In canada, Pixel 2 XL is ~1400 after tax, and OnePlus 5 cost me ~730 after tax and the student discount. That's enough reason for me to choose the OnePlus 5 on top of the development available for it compared to the A/B partitioned Pixels
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
By that logic, every smartphone camera is somewhere between terrible and just OK with the exception of Pixels. The 5T's camera (after you turn that damn stupid Beautify mode off) is a solid affair, taking good photos in good light, and finally, in lower light. Video is solid as well. It's not as good as an S/Note 8, HTC U11, Pixel, Huawei Mate 10/Pro, or iPhone 8, but it's about on the level of the iPhone 7/7 Plus and the slightly overrated LG V30's camera for photo quality, and is a little better than the LG G6, Xiaomi Mi 6, etc. Not bad for $499. As was said earlier, the Pixels (and even Nexus 5X/6P) are in a league of their own, and to compare really anything else to them photography wise, save for this year's iPhones, would be total domination in favor of the Pixel.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
I have tried again with the Beauty Mode (on by default) turned off and now it takes some really great shots. Not sure why this is on by default.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
Quoth Donald Trump, "Because China".
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] gianton:
Mine was off by default. I like OP5T camera btw, it's doing what I want for my everyday needs and more than that. I have a DSLR for my trips etc when I want some really good shots. :)
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
Mine didn't have the slider before. With the little person crossed out, it takes great shots.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] neocryte:
I feel like even iPhone 6 takes better photos. And that's a lot of phones you listed with a better camera. I love the phone and have come to terms the camera isn't great, but folks should understand that it's nowhere close to what a 2017 phone should have imo. My 2014 Moto X photos are on par with this. And that camera isn't great.

Agree with you that the Pixel camera spoiled us. The optical image stabilization and the Google software are a winning combo.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
iPhone 6 doesn't take better photos lol, even though those are about the best 8MP main cam photos I've seen..the camera here isn't great, but the point for what a 2017 phone should have is quite similar to what a 2016 phone should have (none of these cameras have drastically improved in image quality this year). I can't dictate your opinions, but I do agree that there is a schism between what a 2017 phone should have and what it actually has. This year, the focus for seemingly everybody was dual cameras and bokeh instead of improving off of 2016 flagships. Regardless, the 5T is still a solid camera in the grand scheme...and no, your Moto X 2014 doesn't take better photos than the 5T lol...my Droid Turbo 2 takes better pictures than Moto's 2014 flagships but it doesn't hold a candle to the 5T or anything above the lower mid-range this year in regards to photography.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
Once you actually find the correct settings that should be off by default, the 5T takes great shots. I think the built in camera and software DO need a major overhaul. Hopefully they actually listen to feedback about it and remedy the problem(s).
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] neocryte:
What are these settings?
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] stanley08:
Let's stop expecting DSLR quality from $500 phones.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
Touché. The reason expectations are so high is because many are upgrading from the 6P, a device priced exactly the same as the 5t and had a camera that was the equivalent of the Pixel 2 today in how it's positioned as far as this year's cameras go, and still stacks up to the best today. That's why all the Reddit posts on the 5T claim it has a bad camera...which outright isn't true. No, the camera on here isn't great, but it is good, and better than basically anything you can buy at its price point today, save for a refurbished GS8 or Pixel.

There is and never will be another Nexus 5X/6P, aka a device that is priced in the upper-midrange that takes flagship level photos, at least not natively. The Asus Zenfone 4 and Moto X4, for example, both have flagship sensors that are 12.2MP, 1/2.55", 1.4um pixel, with DPAF; the Sony IMX362 and Samsung S5K2L7 respectively. Great hardware, but their software to back it up is subpar. OnePlus is on the skin of their teeth with their aggressive pricing; these parts cost money...part of the reason why, all things encompassed, everything below $600 released in 2017 has similar or worse camera performance compared to the two-year-old Nexus 5X/6P, OnePlus 5T included. And, that's ultimately why the Pixel exists instead of the Nexus: it wasn't profitable. Nobody on the Android side of the spectrum has the resource team to build camera software/optimize camera hardware like Google does, which Google took advantage of on their own platform by making people have to pay a premium for that software prowess, along with the hardware...the only company that's even remotely close in its software development resource team is Samsung, and it shows. And even though the GCam mod markedly improves camera quality with smartphones that use it, it's still not as good as it is natively on a Google device since it isn't specifically tuned for other hardware. Simply put, no phone has DSLR-quality photos, and no camera software on any smartphone, other than that of Apple, Samsung, and MAYBE Huawei, will ever compete with that of Google, regardless of the smartphones' hardware.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] neocryte:
That's a bit farfetched. All I want are photos that aren't blurry 90% of the time. I have to take 5 photos with the 5T to make sure I get one that is crisp, in anything that is not absolutely perfect late morning light. OIS needs to be a standard feature imo. Or maybe my hands are too shaky.

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BTW I am not arguing about costs. Pixel 2 XL would be worth every penny of its cost if it had a solid screen. But the blue shift and other problems are nuts for a flagship. The 5T screen is far, far better. And on a phone I use the screen 100% of the time... Camera maybe 5%? So the answer to me is obvious, regardless on the pricing.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
I'd turn off the beautiful mode in the stock app if I were you. This blur problem you're experiencing is something I've not seen from other people with the OnePlus 5T or the 5 before it. If it's really as bad as you say it is, you'd probably have the same issue with even optically stabilized cameras, if your hand is that shaky.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] neocryte:
Beautiful mode is only for selfies right? I am talking about the regular back camera. My hands aren't that bad, I was joking. With the pixel I didn't have the blurry issues.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
No, it's for the rear camera too. That's why everybody was getting such soft images on the 5T compared to even other OnePlus devices. With beautiful mode off, you should end up with more detailed, sharper shots that aren't extremely blurry. Honestly, blur is almost non-existent on the 5T due to the extremely fast shutter, due in vast part to the lack of OIS.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] neocryte:
Ah yes I see it. Mine is off though, unfortunately.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] stanley08:
I just think... If i'm paying less than $600 for a phone... I'm not expecting a breath-taking camera. I am expecting a camera that is 'good enough'.

So one question, Is the OP5T camera good enough? Which means, is it 'not bad'? Once the answer is yes... I think that's about it! Right there.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
Really? Every picture I take is blurry and like an oil painting, no matter what the setting. The shutter is fast, but doesn't matter when the stabilization doesn't work as intended.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
I'd switch to the GCam mod then. Particularly the newest Arnova mod. As far as settings go, I'd do Nexus 6P for model, Nexus 6 HDR Zsl for config, and High HDR parameters.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
But that's not the point really. This should be a great camera out of the box. At first boot up you should be able to point and shoot and get some great shots. Until that happens, this phone stays on my shelf.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
Well, it's not a great camera out of the box, and the only devices you're going to find with great cameras out of the box are Google's past two generations of Pixels, HTC's latest, Huawei Mate 10/10 Pro, this year's iPhones, and Samsung's offerings this year; maybe a couple others I haven't mentioned. But devices without the best camera hardware out there (Sony IMX377, 378, 333, and 362; Samsung S5K2L7 sensors, f1.8 aperture lens or wider)like without at least decent software to back it up (which is rare for companies that lack the dev team of the bigger companies, i.e Google, Apple, and Samsung) are simply not going to be up with those devices I mentioned. This OnePlus 5T's camera sensor and hardware are inferior to the best out there, and the software isn't particularly good either, so you can't expect cream-of-the-crop photography here. This is a $500 phone, and camera being the biggest area of sacrifice as you drop in price, the OnePlus 5T doesn't perform to the level of the best out there. It competes indeed, but it's still inferior to those cameras.

As I said before, Nexus 6P type devices don't and never will exist again. I don't know what exactly you came from before you bought this 5T, but if you came from any Google device from 2015 and onward, I'd stay with a Google phone, as their camera software and optimization place their cameras on enough of a pedestal to put what you came from at the same level/slightly superior to other flagships with top-of-the-line cameras, and solidly above something that isn't as good as the best of them, like this device, or the LG V30. If the camera really gives you that much grief here, I'd either buy a refurb Pixel XL (which still has no OIS and will have a little more blur than a device with OIS) or I'd shell out either $150 extra for the standard Pixel 2 or $350 extra for the 2 XL. As you said, you require great photography, not just good photography. But no $500 phone is going to give that to you.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
The mate 10 pro isn't much better of the box on auto mode
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
It's got a better sensor that has OIS on board. It's auto mode isn't great, but the photo quality turned out is about on par to the GS8/Note 8, maybe slightly better. Honestly, of the top-of-the-line cameras this year, I'd say the 5T is closer to the S8/Note 8 in performance compared to the rest. It actually competes quite well, with the S8/Note 8 mainly having the advantage in low light due to image stability.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Baldilocks:
I'd compare the 5T camera to the RAZR V3 more than the Note 8. Really needs some work. The only way to take a clear picture is with the phone propped up against something stable.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
No, the RAZR V3 is more similar to my Droid Turbo 2. Again, your 5T's issue with blurry shots is strange. I'd RMA the unit you have and buy a Pixel 2. One of two things (or both) are catalysts to the problem: A. Your phone's camera hardware seems to have some issues, potentially how it's mounted in the device, and/or B. Some eyes are much more sensitive to blur than others. You need a device that has a camera with OIS, as the small pixel size and lack of OIS really hurt the 5T's camera; the Pixel 2 has the best camera on the market by a good bit. It's only $150/$90 more than this OnePlus depending on the configuration.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
Yeah the mate 10 pro csmera has better hardware but it's been very underwelming. The original pixel or even the HTC u11 looked way better on auto. Just sold the mate 10 pro for the oneplus 5t:)
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
5T is a way better and more optimized phone for less money in every regard but the camera. While the Mate 10 Pro's camera is definitely in the flagship segment, the 5T is a step down. The camera is indeed a good one overall and performs better than just about anything under $600 in the US, but cross over that $600 line and the 5T's camera starts getting beat.

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Check this thread I just posted out: https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/holy-s-wow-t3713792
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
Yeah overall I think the camera. Speakers and design are better on the mate 10 pro. But software. Updates. Root and rom development is more important to me. And I prefer the oneplus screen. i All though a flagship camera is nice to have a rarely use my camera . Only the odd pic at s family meal or on holiday so the oneplus will be fine and it can actually produce great photos. it's funny at first then 5t didn't impress me and I was going to keep the mate 10 but I gave the oneplus a couple more tries and it grew on me and now I really like it and I'm looking forward to getting one. It's arriving tomorrow. :)
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] TurboBot247:
Design is largely subjective. Both are around the same size, with the Huawei being slightly heavier and thicker due to being mostly glass and having a larger battery. The speaker on the OnePlus 5T honestly sounds better than the speakers on the Mate 10 Pro; mono sound, sure, but the speaker is loud, lack distortion, and has good bass and treble, where the Mate is somewhat tinny and bass is lost.

The Mate 10's one advantage over the 5T is the camera. Backing by Leica, larger pixel size, OIS, slightly wider f1.6 lens, etc... it's got the superior hardware. The software on the Huawei isn't my cup of tea, but both are imperfect, especially the Huawei in auto mode. But, the main reason why the Huawei beats the OnePlus is due to the lack of OIS on the OnePlus causing detail to be processed out due to outrageously high ISO values and shutter speed (super short exposures) to maintain stability in the image and eliminate motion blur, as well as aggressive noise reduction attempting to control the noise created by the high ISO and the small 1.12um pixels not being able to take in as much light. All of that said and the device still performs well under low-light. Just not as well as devices in the league of the Mate 10/10 Pro.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
I agree. But side by side 10 pro speakers were much better than the oneplus

I honestly haven't found the mate 10 pro csmera very good at all. It must be the software side but in some cases it's actually been bad
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] BrunoArrais85:
Returning my 2 weeks Pixel 2 XL tomorrow due to burn-in. For a $1200 phone here in Canada, this is super sad... Already ordered my 5T.
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] iamterence:
I've been reading this thread, looking at the responses, and I'm going to add in my 2 cents.

If you can afford a Pixel, get a Pixel. Me, coming from the Nexus 5X, I was always looking at OP phones but could never use them because I was on Sprint. Then I had an opportunity to switch to T-Mobile, which also opened up a huge world of other phones for me. This was RIGHT before the 5T was about to come out. Seen the price, the design (I like the knockoff iPhone look tbh), the screen, etc. A Snapdragon 835 in a 6.0.1in screen with the fingerprint sensor on the back and on-screen nav buttons? OxygenOS which is just about CyanogenMod pre-installed? Let's f**king go. Ever since I first heard about OP back then, one thing I've always seen is the cameras are kinda sh*tty, but I figured that the 5/5T camera was a decent enough upgrade from my 5X. And it is. I stopped using HDR because that's what really gets the pictures all crazy looking, at least from my experience, and now I'm seeing people say to turn off the beautiful mode thing, which I'll test out tomorrow on my way to work.

Yes, I would clearly love to stay within Google's world by upgrading to a Pixel from my 5X, but those things just cost too damn much. And that's aside from their hardware issues going on, with the OG Pixel getting bootloops (war flashbacks because 2 of my 5Xs bootlooped), and the newer Pixels with their screen problems.

The only real problem I have with 5T is knowing that I'm no longer going to get Android updates as soon as they are released. I can try some different things with the camera and use VSCO for post-editing, because with my lifestyle and my circle of social media, ain't nobody gonna pay enough attention to my photos to zoom in and see all the weird artifacts (unless I start another war on my Facebook about how Android phones aren't bad at all versus iPhones).

I'm honestly happy with my device. It's a shame that you aren't
[OnePlus 5T  Questions & Answers] Jooosty:
Congrats on your savings.