yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] syrguy1969:
neodorian.....I concur with a few people that posted after you, and as I was stating since my first response to Miss E (and at this point, I use 'Miss' VERY loosely), it was not WHAT she was saying, it was the HOW and WHERE!!!!

The bottom line is this: She should have been polite, proffesional, and take it up with A_C in private, not lamb-baste him publicly in front of the world!!!!

Now...as a perfect example, look at your post...your agreeing with the post of the most reviled person in this thread, and the cause of this apps demise, but you did it in a polite, well worded, friendly manner, and look at the results....nobody is upset at or flaming YOU, we are in a discussion about what you said, and everybody still thinks of you in a good light....see what I am talking about? I think Miss E could learn a thing or two from you!!!!

Now....I respect you and your opinion, but the issue of if A_C was in the wrong or not is between A_C and this supposed authority Miss E, and I respect his decision (of which I am sure he has his reasons), and stand by it!

In closing.....neodorian thank you for at least posting a well thought out and wordrd version of an earlier travesty, you proved my point to Miss E that it CAN be done....thanks man!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ROCOAFZ:
Here is a question and i don't know this for sure. Do you have to release the code if the software is still beta and unfinished? S2P is not finished. Great app, still a few bugs. Until it's a non beta i wouldn't think you would have to open the source as it would mean someone could rip it off. Not sure though Just asking.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xd1936:
Well, that kinda sucks... thanks to the single member of the GPL police! Everyone who's considering donating, now would be a good time... let's all give A_C a reason to search for a new library!

Oh, and I accidentally uploaded v0.17 to savefile here:

http://savefile.com/projects/808610719

And, silly me, RapidShare:

http://rapidshare.com/files/95999038/S2P-0.17-WM5.cab.html

...I should be more careful...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] neodorian:
Well, I apologize for butting in. I didn't mean to fan the flames or anything. I didn't read the early parts of this thread so I didn't take into account how things were done.

When it comes down to it, someone's manners are pretty much irrelevant when it turns to matters of agreements, licenses, and law. I understand that Miss E is coming off as the jerk and I'd probably agree with that sentiment but the fact remains that despite a poster coming off as a ****, a valid point is a valid point.

He/she shouldn't have started off so confrontational and won't do any good by posting that way. I just hope that A_C can take care of his business and work things out as to do right by the community including both the PPC users and those other great coders who developed the code that allowed him to write his great apps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lakrfan348:
Neo I hope you didn't download his program and are using it... ? Then that would defeat the purpose of you defending your point and Miss E
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marriotheblackguy:
This Sucks!!!!

I am seriously PISSED:mad:..That B*&$# "Miss E" has ruined a good thing..I really like this player and saw a future version as my permanent replacement for all audio players....I'm already jonesing for a new version....THIS SUCKS THE BIG ONE AND SO DOES MISS E!!!:mad:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jeffreynew23:
You're on of the Best

AC you in my top 2. Thank you for all the hard work that you have done. When I get payed I will send something your way. S2P 0.17 to me, is the best player out there. I wish that you could have continued. Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] syrguy1969:
neodorian....you really do not need to appologize, as I mentioned before, your being constructive and displaying your opinion in a well formed manner. That is in the spirit of this community.

Also, I really don't think neo using these apps is hypocritical at all. All he is doing is stating how things are, not blasting the forum like Miss E did, and I do believe experessing our opinions is a great aspect of this forum!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] perasite:
I notice that Miss E has not responded to:

Each time she pops in here it is to further insure she bashes A_C, example:

This is what people are so upset about. That is ABSOLUTELY not necessary. You have NO IDEA what he knew when he started. The point behind your statement was just to drive the knife a little deeper. It did not serve to inform anyone on the actual licensing issue at hand. Like someone pointed out, if A_C had known "better when he started," do you REALLY think he would have listed the Thanks to: xxx segment in his original posts pointing out that he used MAD and GSPlayer? I doubt it, and thus I doubt he was trying to pull a fast one like you are insinuating.

I am very interested in your response to vampirbg's question. This time let's try to answer the question without the personal opinions and barbs at A_C and just state facts.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] babaq:
Thank you for all your work, I hope you will find some good library again and try to continue S2P development. I believe that you don't want to violate any license.

Miss E: you should say that in a polite way, shouldn't you? If you can of course, maybe you are a lawyer... anyway, I wouldn't want you as my neighbor... oh no... definitely not.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pumpiron579:
I am so sorry AC, Damn good program. Donations on the way.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] qball1616:
A_C,

I am sorry to hear that you won't be continuing work on this app. It is by far the best media player out there for the ppc and it is still in its early stages of development. I hope you find a workaround to continue this application.

I do have one question that maybe you or someone else can help with. Every time i open s2p i get a message saying that the storage memory is low and to use file explorer to delete old or unused files. Now that message seems simple enough except for the fact that I have over 11mb of storage free on my phone.

Any help on this from anyone would be great.

thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SultanH:
Let's get a donation for A_C to find new library

Me too. What the &$*$*@ did she do that for? :mad: Seriously what a stupid thing to do.

This would have been the best player.

A_C how much donation do you need to look for another library. Give us a target and we will set a goal. Let's all get together a fix her damage to the community.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] E_Shinobi:
It's envy, nothing more...

A_C, props to your unbelievable fine work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marriotheblackguy:
Paying My Share

Receipt ID: 1AK85034JC884082N, paid my share let's all try and make a contribution:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 100million:
Folders and finding MP3's

Is there a way to turn off all the folders except the ones that you have mp3 in?

It would be nice to only see those folder and easier to find what you are looking for.

This is a nice program
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bpack428:
A_C,

do you think you will ever continue the development of S2P?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
Where is the download link???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dfkimbro:
Did you read the first post in the thread? A_C has removed the link and is not distributing the program until he has resolved the issue of what decoder library he will use.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vampirbg:
If you release a beta or even alpha version of your program you are bound by GPL to release the portion of the source that touches other GPL'd code... These days even commercial companies sell beta or even alpha software as complete (Vista?) and then use customers to iron out the bugs... :)

BTW more than half of the open source programs (even some big and feature rich ones) are in permanent beta... :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xd1936:
Hint hint wink wink look on page 35
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] del4:
+1

I, too, would really like to see this as an option...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dfkimbro:
Oh, sorry, I overlooked your previous post no. 341.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
"her damage to the community". Thanks you just give me another reason to NOT share the source code. What would happen if I did so with my framework? somebody would simply take it, use it, and if someone was just pointing that the source code wasn't public domain but has a specific license, he would become the bad guy?...

What do you think the guys behind MAD should feel? what about their community? they spend time implementing something (and basically the fastest mp3 decoder you can find), distribute it under some restriction (which isn't that big, it's common "free software", basically it's just promoting more code sharing), and that doesn't mean anything to you? They just have to shut up because you like the software made using their lib?

I suppose A_C didn't knew it, and made the right choice by stopping development, I wish him good luck finding the perfect lib, and I'd be happy to discuss with him the result of my search for such (I never made a player mostly because of that: I can't find anything with decent performance that would allow playback + animation, I hope he will).

Just my 2 cents...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] !Kernel Panic!:
Please Continue......

Web Accept Payment Sent (ID # 08480659VC394182T)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] superflysocal:
Don't know much about programming and even less about GPL (although this thread has given me a crash course), but wondering if this could be a workaround for A_C:

What if the program was written in a way that it provides the GUI but you have to provide your own mp3 decoder for it to work, sort of a BYO decoder. Maybe, install the program but drop in your own .dll file or something. Would the author be violating GPL then if the actual GPL part of the code is not included in the program. Again, I am not a programmer and don't even know if this is possible, but just a thought.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Jackuuuuu:
sad to find out the news A_C!

Please come back soon!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kasush:
Unfortunately there are no winners in this scenario.

Open Source gets a big black eye.

The XDA community loses (at least temporarily) a promising application.

A_C gets caught between being accused of stealing and being stupid (I believe he is neither a thief nor intellectually challenged)

Miss E gets labeled a lot of really offensive terms.

I personally believe open source is a great thing, I also believe that Miss E approached this entire situation in a very explosive manner. I believe A_C did not use the GPL'd code without complying on purpose, as stated if he had not listed MAD and GSPlayer nobody would have known what back end he used. I respect A_C's right to not release the code, although I feel he and everyone else would benefit from the OSS community. I also applaud A_C for doing the right thing when the issue was raised. He did not delay, he immediately acted and that shows great responsibility. I truly feel that because so many people are not familiar with the entire philosophy of open source that they most have no idea how much good it can bring us all. I only hope that people don't condemn open source because of this issue. GPL did not cause this, it was a mistake or oversight and nothing more.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Flip78:
Miss E

Well, I just read the thread and have the following remarks :

1. The form is important. Being aggressive as the new comer Miss E did just prevent to have discussions based on facts and figures. Therefore, no constructive exchanges follow.

2. Who is Miss E ? Why creating a new login to state such a "point of view" ? This also is preventing the form to be understood or properly discussed.

3. Miss E can be a representative of a player currently being sold for instance ...

4. Anyway, we all loose a great player.

5. Thanks again A_C for your work. Next step : donation.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] syrguy1969:
You point out some valid points Tene, but as I (and a few others, including (most recently) Kasush) have mentioned....it isn't WHAT she was saying, it was the HOW. Now I use your PocketCM, and respect your work as well, but I can only imagine the reaction to a post from a user with NO history, charging in, accusing you of doing this, that, and the other thing wrong, and making demands of you!!! I really don't think you would see their side before you reacted and (rightfully I may add) defended yourself...as would I and many other followers of PocketCM. That was the problem with this whole thing....this "Miss E" shouls have approached it differently.

P.S. Great work on the latest version, I love PockerCM!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
Come on... of course, it's not the kind of post that are welcome, but how would you like her to say it? I have the feeling there was no real good way to say it, even if, I agree, it could have be more private.

That's easy to say, as I don't use GPLed code, (actually I don't use third party library at all), but I disagree, and if I was stealing someone's work to make my app, I would apply the same rule to me. Developping software isn't just taking what you can/want and use it. And between us, developping a mp3 decoder is a lot harder than anything we're doing here with our "finger friendly UI".

I'm still hoping that some people will start this kind of flame for everybody that is redistributing my binaries in their ROM, website, forum, etc... ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mr.r9:
LOL @ xd1936.......I swear that you made my day :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SultanH:
Point well taken from Kasush and Tene. Didn't mean to throw a fit, because we lost the lovely program (our joy and hard to find program).

We fully understand and support the spirit and genius behind Open source and the greatness that would have resulted from it in this case. But sometimes developers don't want to share and there is nothing wrong with that. So my intent was to quickly get everyone to the best course of action without making A_C feel bad. ===> DONATION so we can continue getting this program up and running.

If he decides to share the source and get other developers invovled so the program can devellop faster and better that would be great, but if he doesn't we are still behind him with the donations.

I forgot to post the receipt from my own donation when I posted that previous note. here it is: ID # 26086946M7803645M
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] itolson:
a2dp Works.....

if you use pocket music, pause the track then run s2p....

hey presto music to my ears via bt headphones....

i gues you just have to enable the a2dp side of things somehow.

are there any programs that will do this..

Its a great App, just like my iphone...

i am almost tempted to sell the iphone to be honest.

Great Work, Shame it has to stop.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] luciusz:
I feel so sad,,, this app is one of my favorite ones.... Q___Q

so fxcking sad.....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] A_C:
Stay tuned...

Hey guys (& Misses)

After some studies, I've finally find one reliable decorder - the one that comes along with your device. It's quite hard (at least to me) to be used, but, at least, it's feasible. So, keep your fingers crossed, continue your support & stay tuned...

Thank you to every donators, your every penny will worth it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xd1936:
Very nice! Good luck with implementation, and thanks for not giving up!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kasush:
In version 0.17 a2dp works without resorting to any hacks of starting another player and then switching. There was one version which only played through the left channel, but that has long since been rectified.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] itolson:
woops.

that will teach me to read all 38 pages....

i only read the first few..

thanks, i will try without the other program, is there a hidden equaliser ???

The track selection is excellent, have you tried the lumen one, it feels a little smoother, lumen looked as though it got canned though. shame really, good job this one is still going though.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] azzambm:
how you can prevent the S2P form toggling off the screen ????

because when it does that, I can't toggle the screen off manually and I have to softreset....!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] BadTasteUK:
Thank GOD someone uploaded it... when I saw that A_C had done an MP3 player I was really happy, only to have my heart sink when I went to download it from the first post.

Nice one XD! :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] voileuxcool:
Hi, i have a probleme, the picture of album don't appear .... i have classed the album with their pictures but it don't work....

ben
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cavalloz:
thank you very much
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gullum:
This is amazing there are some miner problems as mentioned before but this is release 0.10 so there will be bug fixes I'm shure :) and this is the best and fastes player I've tried so far.

donation come your way
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] somphon_r:
Works great

S2P works smoothly on my P526.

All problems fixed on 0.12

Thanks A_C.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pocai:
This player is the best I ever seen, clean, beautiful, congratulations for this amazing software, i,m already use S2U, S2V and now S2P. You Rock!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eagle0815:
Hi,

thanks for that program! I really like it!

However there seems to be a problem with directories containing lots of MP3's:

On my XDA Orbit 2 (Polaris) a folder with 6 MP3's plays fine but another one

containing 500 MP3's (Top500 you know :D ) virtually kills my Orbit2: There is

no response to any key press or Touchflo gesture - I have to do a soft reset...

Am I doing sth. wrong?

eagle0815
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cAnArdtichAud:
Nice !

I've expected that kind of app from you A_C, it's nice, sometimes, the app lags on my Trinity, especially with the turning window (from "now playing" window to song list)

My question is the following : why should we sort albums and artists in folders when your app (i think) could easily sort them by retrieving id3V2 tags ?

=> doing what htc audio manager do in fact.

One next day songs will be sorted by sliding album art, won't they ?:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theme freak:
Thanks a lot A_C you are really programmer master :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cristian1982:
There is landscape mode? I have synchronize the my HTC Touch with Windows Media Player but the cover album not appear in S2P, why?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shahpar:
wwwwwwoooooooooooooooooooowwwww

tnx man I love it :eek:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] illusion8088:
Simply genius

Great stuff.

Can't wait for the final cut.

Bless you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marijn26:
Looks great!

One question though.

How does this relates to pocket melody?

It looks the same to me from the screen shot you posted.

keep up the good work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bram_smulders:
Great great great application!!!!

I love the interface, the looks, the sound i love all!!!

Little suggestion: Make album art inside or totally under the 2 bars, becouse my album art is halfly inside the upper bar and whole inside the lower bar.

gr. bram
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Djay64:
looks awesome

Looks cool, but i think it needs work with the music selecting. I think so far mort player has been the best in being able to get from song to song, and album to album. would rather have favourites where it has folders, where I can also put pics in and have it as the album cover. the song tag thing is somthing i'm not fond of, as you never get to see the album covers as it's usually just a blank screen. something i think the iphone lacks also.

Looks way cool though. can't wait to see any further devleopment. I'm a fan of yours. :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] berwick:
Very nice program

i have one suggestion, hope ts not too greedy

it would be nice if it can be controlled in S2U2 lock screen

then i can throw away the WMP and today plugin
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bridic:
Working great, not lags or lock-ups.

Great beta release.

The only thing I have a slight issue is when S2P reads my card, it is grouping all the songs together (plain list) and not by the individual folders.

Once a song is selected, I am able to view only the song on that album.

Didn't know if this was a bug or something not set up correctly on my end.

Again, great work on the S2P

-bridic-

Edit:

Player was working fine then the music stopped and the player started scrolling through the songs, one after the other, and would not stop to play.

Only a soft reset fixed the issue but only temporary. It is a random issue that might start during the first song played or after 3 songs...no rhyme or reason.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] j.a:
Hell Yeah!

Thanks A_C!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] littld:
Good app. I don't get any album art but it's probably because I normally use Media Player and that shows it. Scrolling the list of all the mp3s is a long list and is very smooth as long as no music is playing. The list as provided with HTC's media player would be very good so you could browse by album etc.

Most of my music is in wma format so I'll look forward to that being added later.

Uses 2.37M on my ppc which is more than Mortplayer but less than Media Player.

Thanks for a great app, good luck with the ongoing development.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] km230580:
Nice Work ..................
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rtakeo:
my htc touch with itunes mac missinsync dosent apperance the albun arts in the music artists... and to start the program an about 30 seconds of wait in the default S2P screen to start the music... its normal
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kcguy:
excellent!

Just installed, works like a charm so far, no glitches. Runs very smoothly on the BA.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ba-C-eK:
A_C Huge gratitude for your work.

Has compared quality of sounding subj with Poket Music and has been amazed, that your program sounds not worse!

It is unique, for me, high frequencies, it seems more than it is necessary.

Whether you plan to make an equalizer or to set parameters through the registry?

S2P Now my basic player instead of PM5

I have made for you donation.

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mozillaxom:
good news

thanks for your hard work A_C, we all still supporting you...i'm waiting for next good news

and again, thanks for S2P "the best mp3 player" ,i think
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ghostofapril:
A_C Strikes Back!!!

yeah , yeah , we all knew it ! , as previousley one of the members said : A_C will strikes back, and here you are it happens...and this time with no lawyer-foolishness from any MESS - E like mother-whatever!!!

thanks to A_C again and again, and everyone in this forum who has shown respect to the community through all the recent messes.

S2P will hit the dogs in the mouth!!!

cheers everyone