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[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nephilim:
Nice, I was super happy when I saw this since I didn't realize Verizon were going to be idiots and lock down the bootloader. I didn't get the original Pixel XL because I only upgrade every two years and every other Nexus device I've owned through Verizon still had an unlock option for the bootloader in the developer options so I assumed this one would be no different.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] capsnbottles:
I just sent mine in for same reason, they tried to send me to Verizon but I wouldn't let them. Phones on it's way to Google, hopefully I get Google version back instead of Verizon one
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nephilim:
Why did you send your phone in first? You make them send you a device so you can transfer your data and then send it back. I still have my other XL 2. When I called Verizon I told them I want my new device first and they said that would be fine.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] capsnbottles:
Google required it, Verizon was gonna send one first all u had to do was pay taxes and then get them back when they received phone.

I didn't wanna chance getting a locked bootloader from Verizon, I want a Google one
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nephilim:
Dude, there is no payment needed at all to replace your phone through Verizon. I called them, told them I had burn-in, they setup a new phone to be overnight delivered and I got it today. That was it. I don't know who you talked to but there is no taxes required on getting a replacement due to a factory defect.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] capsnbottles:
Yeah I think the guy I talked to was an idiot and didn't know what he was doing. Oh well, I have a note 8 and will have a unlocked bootloader in a week.

I was hoping to follow your path and get lucky, nothi g I can do now it's in the mail
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nephilim:
Well if it's coming from Google you have a good chance of getting an unlocked version.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] capsnbottles:
I thought so myself, but after speaking with Google they said they send out Verizon locked phones if I bought from Verizon. Oh well looks like I'm returning when I receive Thurs and ordering one plus 5 t
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mrjaydee82:
Verizon told me to call Google so I called about my issues.. The thing that sucks is I gotta send my pixel 2 xl first and once they receive it Google will send me a brand new 1...sucks but I'm gonna do it...just sucks I'll have to use an old Motorola Z Droid Play lol and I'm going to NYC for vacation next week and won't have my pretty Pixel 2 XL once I send it in
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nephilim:
Dude, I bought my phone from Verizon and still got an unlocked device as a replacement. Don't sweat it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] capsnbottles:
I hope your right, will find out Thurs
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nephilim:
Um, no reason you have to send your device in. Whoever you talked to at Verizon is a moron. I called Verizon tech support and he told me there would be a package along with my replacement to send my defective device back in once I received the replacement. That way I am able to transfer my data. I'd suggest calling Verizon back.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] capsnbottles:
I was told the same thing. I put mine I mail yesterday like they said and I woke up to email saying my rma shipped and would be here Thurs. You should be good if you act quickly

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Verizon told me the same thing, it was Google who asked for phone first

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Did your phone come from a Verizon store or from Google?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nephilim:
I purchased my device through Verizon, I've specified this multiple times by saying I called Verizon for my replacement.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] capsnbottles:
Where did yours ship from?

Mine is coming from Illinois
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nephilim:
Wherever Verizon gets their devices from. Like I said, I'm thinking they might be getting their 2 XL's straight from Google because of the issues so that Google is able to oversee damage control. I don't know for sure though. All I know is I purchased my original device through Verizon and talked to a Verizon tech rep to get my replacement. The replacement I received was unlocked.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
my rma came with forth worth with avzw sim installed.. i didnt even know it was in there until i booted up and toggled oem unlock and unlocked it.. i noticed a vzw sim was preinstalled when i went to put my sim in it

thats about all youll hear in here, theories lol someone should take a better look into the locking mechanisms
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] knox0x1:
So would it be safe to say that the rma's coming from forth worth are going to be unlocked?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KyleK29:
My theory is a mixture of the other theories. That there's likely a database that VZW maintains with the IMEI's of their phones. I'd guess the Fort Worth location is a Google RMA distributor. They're possibly dropshipping the phone on Verizon's behalf and some where along the line, Verizon is supposed to update their database with these IMEI's. Whether they're delayed in updating (possibly people beating the database to the unlock) or Google isn't passing the info on, it's not getting done.

A phone that hasn't contacted the internet will say under "OEM Unlocking" to please connect to the internet or contact the carrier.

I think the storebought phones are being automatically put into the database when the employee scans it into the system. I did a replacement 2XL at the store (within 14day period) and it wasn't turned on with the SIM (ever), it's never removed the message under OEM Unlocking. My first one had the SIM in on first boot and loaded the VZW apps + grayed the OEM (no message).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
ft. worth isnt a google rma center.. its where most the rma phones come from not just pixels.. and not just verizon.. my galaxy s8+ rmas and even lg v20 rmas etc. all came from ft. worth..

also working for US Cellular and Sprint now their rmas also come from Ft. Worth.. typically when you return defective devices for most carriers these are also shipped to ft. worth.. So this makes me believe theres some sort of distribution center in ft. worth that all the carriers/oems use
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Rootuser3.0:
Damn that's a good deal for 500 who would sell it for that cheap? A financed one I suppose be careful with that as it can be blacklisted for non payment
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] joshw0000:
I had a Pixel 2 (not XL) from Verizon that had some weird phone issues. Basically every time I made or received a call it took 10-30 seconds before we could hear each other. I tried to remedy myself and tried everything that Google suggested but the issue would always come back. It was deemed an antenna issue. I made Google replace it instead of Verizon in hopes of getting an unlockable model. They sent a Verizon model. :(

I found a good deal on a new Google 128GB Pixel 2 XL on Craigslist over the weekend. Anyone wanna buy a new 64GB Verizon P2?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] stalls:
Ya Idk.. I guess they won out in some office work party and never even opened it.. IPhone user lol... It was cheap.. I offered $500 and they took it
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Brokenbit:
I had a recent Target purchased Verizon model that was replaced due to screen touch issues and blueness. The replacement unit came today from Ft. Worth, phone only, no SIM card, accessories or Pixel box. The bootloader was able to be unlocked like the other Ft. Worth phones. Thanks for this thread!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
And now what will you do? Unlock the bootloader and compromise the device? Why did you want this? Why didn't you just buy a Google version? Just curious.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Brokenbit:
Root, adaway, flash ROMs... $550 off the device with the Verizon credit and Target gift card.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] humdrum2009:
Seriously not trolling here but this is a phone development website.

Most xda users have unlocked bootloader's on one of the phones that they use.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Paranoid@ndroid:
Called Google customer support to complain about my buggy Pixel 2 XL after 8.1 OTA. They had me run a series of tests but they didn't make me do a factory reset (they just stated they would document that I did). I honestly would have just kept the phone and not RMAed if they could remedy it, but they eventually reached the conclusion that I would need a replacement.

They notated my account and emailed Verizon that we went through diagnostics and that I needed an RMA. Called Verizon tech support the next day and had them pull notes from Google, and they agreed to send me a warranty replacement phone. I got my Pixel Panda from Ft. Worth today with no sim card installed. I booted it up and couldn't toggle unlock until I connected to WiFi and reboot the phone. After a reboot, I was able to toggle it and I proceeded to unlock the phone.

Couldn't be happier! :victory:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
That's absurd and incorrect.

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So you saved a ton of money yet you're still not happy? Which roms do you intend to flash? Still just curious. Also you can get ad blocking without root.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] humdrum2009:
So what's absurd this is a developers website, or most user have at least one unlocked phone?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Well both actually. There are development threads within each device forum but to say this is exclusively for developers is patently untrue. Visit some other forums on this site and they have nothing to do with rooting, hacking or development. There is a lot of information about devices such as smart watches which can't even be rooted and device modifications such as Substratum which don't require root or unlocked bootloader. They are help threads, information, questions and answers and various communications between users. I'd venture to say that the vast majority of forums here have nothing to do with development. Now within each device forum there are specific development threads but that is not the case here. This is for "Guides, News and discussion" if you look at the title.

Extending that description, no, most users do not have at least one unlocked phone. Where did you get that idea from? As a matter of fact I would venture to guess that the majority of users even in this Pixel 2 XL forum do not have root and don't even wish to. Perhaps in the old days but root and flashing has seen its day. There is just no reason to root for most users now. (Most, not all so flame off) Besides the fact there are no roms other than stock and a kernel or two.

Thing is it has become tiresome to constantly see threads such as "Potential great news for Verizon users" when there is no such, so called, good news. If you can get a replacement device for some reason, which some users have played the game, and then you can unlock then so be it. But you buy a Verizon device for $300 or even less and then complain that they lived up to their end of the bargain? Stop. Spend the money and you'll never have to visit a thread like this again. This has been going on since October of 2016 with the Pixel and nothing has changed, nor will it. Forget a bounty, forget removing the sim, forget bootloader unlock if you buy it from Verizon at a discounted price or a payment plan. That's just the way it is. Scamming the system is just that. Unbecoming for a development site. ;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] humdrum2009:
Well we disagree ,but anyway that's what makes this site work is input.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pixelsquish:
Got my Pixel 2 XL from BB, Verizon variant. Contacted Google for a warranty fix the other day, and a new replacement phone is headed my way here from Illinois due here tomorrow and I'll report what it is. I personally could care less if it's unlocked, my rooting days are over.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pixelsquish:
New phone got here in full retail packaging with cables and another charger. It did come with a verizon sim installed which I immediately took out and subbed in with my AT&T one. Gonna set it up then run through tests for the screen, black crush, gray pixelation, speaker rattle, video audio static, etc...

Bootloader is locked and I'd rather have the second free rapid charging wall wart than an unlocked bootloader I'll never use lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] humdrum2009:
What state are you in if you don't mind me asking?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pixelsquish:
NJ
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
haha. ppl get so worked up these days.. i for one feel lost without root.. on another note, you dont seem to care for this thread much but i am glad I came across it or else I probably would have just put up with the minor issues I had and not received an unlockable Google variant.. id say this thread is serving its purpose just fine... im sure theres some out there that for w.e reason (like me) couldnt get a unlocked device from google and came across this thread or will hopefully if they havent yet and might get lucky
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] GHolbrook4:
You can unlock the Verizon bootloader until they patch it.

https://phandroid.com/2017/12/29/verizon-pixel-2-unlock-bootloader/
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] psone:
Having some speaker issues. Google said they only offer standard replacement because I bought from Verizon. Can anyone share their experience with the process? They want me to mail my device in, first, and then wait for the replacement device to arrive back to me. I could exchange with Verizon but I'm hoping for a possible unlocked version back.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
so yru goin through google then? most everyones thats got a google version in return has gone through verizon i believe.. in fact most who went through google got vzw locked ones
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pimpmaneaton:
This is what I did for a screen issue. The replacement I got was a Verizon device that was bootloader locked. I got a shipment notification of my new device being shipped out a few hours my old device was dropped off at the post office. So I had the replacement about 2 days later.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] psone:
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I wasn't aware. So I call Verizon to get a replacement and they'll ship it to me in advance and it might come unlocked?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
correct.. thats what i did.. they send u one next day air if u got insurance then u ship old one back later on.

and ppl gettin shipped out of ft. worth seem to have better luck
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] fix-this!:
So if I buy a Verizon pixel XL now I'll be able to unlock the bootloader? According to Android athority you can.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pandacookie:
No. That info is for the Pixel 2 variant only, not for the 2 XL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andyroidna:
I have a Verizon 2 XL. I've noticed a pink hue on my display and was wondering if I call Verizon for a replacement, according to this thread I'd possibly get a phone with unlockable bootloader? Also, would it be refurbished?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] psone:
Luck of the draw, most are getting new or like new.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
read a few posts and ull have your answer lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andyroidna:
Ft. Worth pixel on the way!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] CyanideHD:
I have speaker distortion, and I'm going to request an RMA soon, hoping I get an unlocked version. Will post where it came from and if it came with sim or not.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dkotoric:
Does this work on Pixel 2 XL or only pixel 2.

I had mine replaced through google a month ago but they sent me a Verizon one as a replacement.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
P2...non XL version.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dkotoric:
That sucks, I assume people have tried it on the XL and its not working then?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
From the article in redit, you would be correct. Sorry man :crying:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dkotoric:
I saw it on another thread and one guy said it worked on his replacement pixel 2 xl
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] psone:
Just wanted to follow up. My replacement XL 2 arrived from Ft Worth and had a original plastic around it, had a label on the device back with date 11/20/2017. It looks brand new. Rooted and VERY pleased. Thanks OP for sharing info.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] stkman32:
I can confirm...I originally bought from Verizon and had to send back for an issue. I decided to try the unlocking steps and it worked flawlessly. I am now rooted. The only difference I see now is that I get an error message saying the device has an internal issue and to contact manufacturer at 1st boot however I push ok and all is good.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andyroidna:
Can I unlock the bootloader even if I don't want to root? Or unlock bootloader and root in the future? In case Verizon has an update to lock or something, I wanted to make sure it's unlocked so I can root later if needed. (or can they not do that and this is a stupid question lol)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] CyanideHD:
The lady said they are sending a device to me tomorrow, but with no original accessories or packaging. Is this normal? I hope I still get the unlocked version.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
You can unlock the bootloader any time you want, and root or don't root if you want. Be advised, it will wipe your phone when you unlock it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KyleK29:
Add another to the YES list. RMA'd via Verizon Chat yesterday, phone arrived this morning. Labeled as Nov 20th, looks brand new with no sim installed.

Turned on, logged in, and hit OEM Unlocking. Got a unlocked one.

Came from Ft. Worth, Tx.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
thats common.. has to do with root and magisk patching the dtbo img
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
yes.. its an rma, not a brand new device.. well device might be new but u already have original packaging and accessories when u purchased the device, u dont send that stuff back
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Fascinating that since the Pixel 2 has bootloader unlock no one has any problems that require an RMA. Coincidence?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pixelsquish:
I received a locked device with my RMA but it came brand new and retail packaging with all the accessories. This was directly through Google
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] capsnbottles:
Same thing happened to me, then I seen this post and called Verizon and bam got a unlocked one
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andyroidna:
I just got my Ft. Worth RMA device. Only phone, nothing with it. OEM Unlocking is still greyed out! Do I have to log in to my google account? All I did was put in my SIM, skipped all the other start-up processes like fingerprint and all. I enabled developer options, and OEM Unlocking is greyed out. Am I doing something wrong?

I first tried it without SIM, no go. Then I turned on wifi, no go. Then I put in SIM, still greyed out. I've done a factory reset, I've added a google account, no go. I then updated to December security patch (it was originally on September), still no go!

Did I just get the only one from Fort Worth that isn't a Google version? Lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
The question is what did you buy in the first place? That's what you deserve.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andyroidna:
That's cool and all, but that's not what this thread is about...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
It's all about that. Why do you think it's not? Possible to get an unlocked device and possibly not. If you don't there is no reason to complain since that's what you signed up for. I'm just stating the obvious. I think we can handle that in this thread.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andyroidna:
This thread is about people who bought a Verizon phone, RMA'd it, and received an unlockable Google version instead. My post is about that. YOUR post makes no sense in this thread.

This thread isn't about people getting the same phone they originally bought. It's about people getting the Google version even though they had a Verizon version. So it's not about getting what I "deserve". Or am I mistaken?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Yes you're mistaken. It's about potential. If you didn't get one unlocked that's part of the discussion too. Complaining about not getting one is also part of the discussion and something that is uncalled for since you don't deserve it. If you don't like my point of view that is really on you. But I'll state it and stand by it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andyroidna:
I wasn't really complaining. I was stating my results after RMA'ing my device. I was also asking if I was doing something wrong, perhaps someone could guide me if that was the case.

I don't really like your point of view, but you can definitely state it and stand by it. Your response, though, provided no answer to my question so I'm not really sure what the point was. Either way, thanks for the reply!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheNerdLLC:
You need a chill pill.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
I wasn't referring to you. You accepted it graciously. But there was even someone that returned the replacement device because they couldn't unlock it. That's what I'm talking about. Most of the RMA are to try and get an unlocked device. In the pixel 2 forum, with the unlock hack, there are zero RMAs. And that observation is after my chill pill. Lol. How silly.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andyroidna:
So, did I just get a locked one from fort worth? I mean it is what it is, just wondering if I'm doing something wrong
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] CyanideHD:
I received mine from fort Worth and it came with a Sim but it was unlockable! Currently have magisk and v4a installed!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] capsnbottles:
Yeah sounds like it, try again, dont worry about what others say in here. They dont know you and never will

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Same here

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Same here
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andyroidna:
Anything different I should try if I get another one?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Are you serious? Another one?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andyroidna:
Yeah I'm gonna get like 6-8 more
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Lol. You are my hero.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andyroidna:
Thank you. I try