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[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Digital DJ:
If these prices are true, I'm not sure I can justify paying over $1100 for a base model GP4XL. I feel like prices are getting out of control.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Oh-So...-listings-reveal-premium-prices.435166.0.html
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bluey45:
Yeah those prices are insane for a P4XL. At these prices you could at least say give us a larger battery and more ram!

With discount / No discount

Australia	Google Pixel 4 64 GB	$1,333 /	$1,500

Australia	Google Pixel 4 128 GB	$1,532	/ $1,724

Australia	Google Pixel 4 XL 64 GB	$1,642	/ $1,847

Australia	Google Pixel 4 XL 128 GB	$1,832 /	$2,061
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Digital DJ:
Almost $50 a month if you're getting just the base model. I'm sorry I really love the Google pixel line of phones but I cannot see myself paying more for a phone that I would for a laptop. I think it's about time for me to go back to the Motorola line of phones which are about the closest to the Google Pixel line in my opinion. Depending on what the Google is going to say, this may be the end of my run in the Google pixel line of phones. Although I'll probably just keep my Pixel 2 XL going until it absolutely falls apart because as I understand it Google does a good job of supporting their devices for about four or five years.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mattakacas:
Update Pixel 2XL to A10, Root w/ Magisk

Quick question from a novice here, but I already have android 9 rooted via magisk on my pixel 2 xl (which I accomplished via the patched boot image approach almost a year ago). I've already got fastboot/adb working on my PC and my bootloader is already unlocked on my phone. If I follow the steps titled "Flashing factory images" and "Rooting with magisk" (pinned to first page of this thread) using the latest magisk manager (7.3.4) and latest magisk (19.4) should I be good to go? Again - all i'm trying to accomplish is rooted stock android 10. I'd be using the 'taimen' factory image from googles 'factory images' page (e.g. 10.0.0 (QP1A.190711.020, Sep 2019))

Thank you in advance!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
Yep, you should be good to go with your methodology. Just make sure your platform-tools are up to date before you start, and set your screen lock to swipe or none as well. Happy flashing :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Will008:
I highly doubt these will be the prices in the US. I'm not located in the US and when I was trying to buy an unlocked pixel 3xl at release I couldn't cause of the stupid Google website billing system (IP has to be in the US with a US billing address). Then I looked into buying it from Europe and it was more expensive in Europe on Google's store, when I looked at other websites that sell it in Europe they were way overpriced than the official Google store in Europe.

I think and hope that's what going on here cause if the prices are true then they are just plain stupid.

After all that dialed down and people started reporting 3XL bugs and issues specially with the battery life, I decided to get a 2XL which was a decision I'm very happy I made. I think my 2XL can easily give me one more year if I wanted, but I still want to get the 4XL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ghisy:
Ugh, Google is getting ridiculous with pricing! Pixels were already expensive but this...

Honestly, if I can have GCam working fine on a non-Pixel device, I might go with OnePlus in the future. That 7 Pro looks dang nice.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] clothednblack:
Just spent over $1200 on my new phone lol. Im certainly enjoying it though [emoji106]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Digital DJ:
I'm actually looking at the Moto G8. It's releasing soon. But yeah I can't justify that kind of money (Google pixel 4xl) for what is essentially a camera.

I've always thought the Google the best phones out there. The biggest reason I have the pixel line is because of the unlimited storage. I'll probably at this point either go with the Motorola G8 when it finally releases or I may even get the pixel 3A XL. I may even wait to see if Google releases a 4A version. I don't need to spend an extra five or $600 for a metal frame
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Digital DJ:
Hey guys, since I loaded A10 I can't seem to perform a nandroid backup. I thought it was as simple as getting into recovery and selecting backup then swiping, but it keeps failing. Am I missing a step?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Digital DJ:
Is anyone else having problems making backups?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Digital DJ:
Ok I'm going to assume that TWRP isn't playing nice with A10 and leave it at that.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] post-mortem:
Have you tried backing up over adb?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Digital DJ:
No I haven't, I honestly forgot about that. I guess I should look into doing that. I've never done it before but I've always known that it's an option. So I guess I know what I'm going to look into today
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] srqrob:
Never heard of this. Be interesting to hear how it works for you.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Pkt_Lnt:
I've used that for a couple years. A couple medical apps that require being unrooted dictate, so no root.

https://developer.android.com/studio/command-line/adb

General ADB page, scroll down to the section for backup:

I use this on my Linux box -

adb backup -apk -shared -all -system -f ~/Pixel2XL_adb_backup/backup09302019.ab

A good tutorial -

https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/

One caveat, though I see the warning when I update Platform Tools, it still works!

https://www.xda-developers.com/adb-backup-and-restore-depreciated/
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] srqrob:
[QUOTEI use this on my Linux box -

adb backup -apk -shared -all -system -f ~/Pixel2XL_adb_backup/backup09302019.ab

A good tutorial -

https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/

One caveat, though I see the warning when I update Platform Tools, it still works!

https://www.xda-developers.com/adb-backup-and-restore-depreciated/[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the link on the 9to5. Backup worked OK apparently but I'm either not brave enough or not smart enough to try wipe and restore. :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Pkt_Lnt:
Well, the one time tested adb restore it worked for me. I wiped and restored using adb when my 2XL was brand spanking new, to make sure it worked. I like to have a feel for backup / restore before it becomes a necessity. :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andy6685:
Since I am still kind of new with the whole adb vs fastboot thing, what's the difference between the two? What are the pros vs cons?

Thanks for the help!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Pkt_Lnt:
They are different tools, no pros or cons to compare the two, both are useful and the tool to use depends on what one is trying to do.

Fastboot is an "system image" tool, while adb is a "software maintenance" tool for system and apps, that is how I see them.

Here are two good beginner tutorials.

https://android.tutorials.how/fastboot/

https://android.tutorials.how/adb-commands/

One needs to read and try the commands to learn them, there are many resources out there using Google to search fastboot and / or adb commands. It will take some time and expereicned to learn to use these complex, powerful, indispensable tools. ;) :highfive:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andy6685:
Thanks for the quick, thorough response. I'll check out both those links :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] eruben:
After upgrade to Android Q my battery life got about 30% worse. Is there any tips for A10 to make it better? Thanks
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] simplepinoi177:
I know Pkt_Lnt gave a great explanation and some really good resources, I look at the two in these two basic terms; fastboot only really works (as far as I understand, please someone correct me if I am mistaken) in the Bootloader mode/environment, whilst* adb can actually be used while inside & using the System and/or Recovery mode/environment.

If this helps clears it up for anyone......
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] baxxter106:
Sorry for double posting but in the other thread nobody answers - hopefully here:

i flashed the changed Magisk boot.img without twrp. root is working fine, but gPay won't work anymore. Is there a solution for it or did i something wrong? Magisk shows SafetyNet status all green.

Thanks for help...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] srqrob:
It seems to me that unless you're willing to fiddle with it over and over, you need to choose between Google Pay and root.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] baxxter106:
yes, unfortunately. i will never get in head how root will "destroy" security.... i rooted every phone until now, because i think, i know what i'm doing. my banking app (ING) runs although root.... paypal works, paydirekt - the german paypal don't.

so cards will be ok for paying, piss off gpay... ;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] simplepinoi177:
Yes, unfortunately, things aren't as easy as running a custom kernel and/or MagiskHide and passing SafetyNet any longer... Even doing all of those things doesn't quite do it...

The working method can be found

HERE

: https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/magisk-google-pay-gms-17-1-22-pie-t3929950/

And if you want to streamline it a bit, info on the Magisk module automating it (created by 73sydney) can be found on post #176

Now...the method -- especially manually the way the OP lists it -- can be quite convoluted with varying different degrees as exactly the minimum of what needs to be done; I've seen some say they don't need to run an SQL editor, some do, some need to re-initialize Google Play Services and some don't, some need to still run MagiskHide on two/three Google services and some don't. It may be as [MENTION=4370729]srqrob[/MENTION] says and you will either need to "fiddle with it" in the way laid out in that thread or be forced to choose between root or GPay...

Good news is that there are quite a lot (i'd say most) of people who up to now and very recently claiming success; which I would add on to as I am successful now only after following the OPs method when nothing else would "hold"...

Good luck and hope this helps....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] baxxter106:
Thanks again for tip me the "wink" to this other thread! It worked like written in first message. Paypal and my cc is now working with gPay...:good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] tripLr:
Thanks to @73sidney . Your famous
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Az Biker:
Apparently I've developed a layer of mental rust in the few months that I've not flashed anything.

Here's what I wanted to do:

Upgrade from 9x to 10 (removing the -w)

Here's what happened:

Flashed the latest 10 factory image .20 (-w)

bootloop

boot into TWRP (internal storage 0 MB)

Repeated just in case, same result

Flashed the latest 10 (-w INTACT)

flashed latest 10 EX

flashed latest magisk

all good (except the remount issue with some apps)

What I'd like to do:

revert back to 9 (hope my twrp backup on my PC is good)

restore the 9 backup

then flash the .19 (I just read somewhere that .19 is better than .20) with the -w removed

and hopefully be on 10 with all my apps and data from 9.

Anyone want to chime in with a better plan, hit me with advice, or insanely flame me for borking the 9 to 10 transition???

[MENTION=3730810]Badger50[/MENTION], [MENTION=4618389]simplepinoi177[/MENTION], Bueller........Bueller......Bueller

TIA
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
First of all...CONGRATULATIONS on your Senior Mod promotion! Well done my brother! :good::good:

As for your other issues....I'm sure you updated your platform-tools first.

After the first failed flash, did you switch slots and try it again?

Since you've already wiped your device, I personally would just leave it be on A10 instead of all the other hassle to go back to 9, but that's just me.

No need to flame ya bro, you could've just had a bad file, or who knows what....this is the P2XL after all!

When I updated to A10, I also used the .20 version, and it worked fine. Just another ghost in the P2XL machine my friend :cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] tweaked:
This.. I had to do this when I was able to OEM this Verizon model phone. I hadnt flashed anything in like 6 months and when I tried on this phone it never worked right. Bootloops and weird hangups. Updated my tools and issues gone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] tripLr:
Tools ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
He means platform-tools :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] simplepinoi177:
Dang…I wrote out a reply and after 15 minutes of writing, it crashed and got lost! So here’s my attempt at the response once again…

First of all, I am deeply flattered and humbled that you called on me. And a big congratulations as Badger said.

What you outline seems to be the safest and surest method, and I can’t find anything too bad on it.

But I am curious about going another route. What if you update it to the latest 10/Q Oct. update, stock, go through the initial set up process, then boot into TWRP and restore just the data partition (and internalsd if you have it). In my experience, I’ve found that the data partition isn’t really touched or modified in the initial fastboot flashing stage, and that when the device is updated, you will get a “optimizing app” the first time you run it right after that, and I believe that’s when your data/apps are adapted to running with the upgrades. So I have my doubts that you have to be running the original version that goes with the data partition in order to seamlessly upgrade everything.

But, then again, your method really is safe and solid and I can’t find any fault in it, and mine is just a curiosity.

In any case, again, I am deeply humbled and honored to be called upon by you; you have my deepest appreciation. Again, congrats on your elevation as well!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Az Biker:
I might try this as it sounds like it would work. Thanks!

Some things I really like about Android 10:

-Dark Mode offers black GOOGLE bootup screen

-I think the device is snappier (could just be the clean install too)

-speakers sound noticeably louder

A few things I don't like:

-no more CLEAR ALL in recent apps??? WTH???

-the usual pain of some apps not up to 10 standards and being wonky

-not app drawer button (must now swipe up to open app drawer)

[MENTION=3730810]Badger50[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4618389]simplepinoi177[/MENTION]

Your kind words on my moving to SM are greatly appreciated! Thank you very much :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sam Nakamura:
Hey Azzzz, there's a "clear all" button, you however need a fast swipe to the right to make it appear, not sure if you missed it or if I missed anything... anyway the SN looks gorgeous on you! :cool: :highfive: :angel:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Az Biker:
Appreciate the SM compliment, thank you!

I am fast swiping to the right like mad with the recent apps showing, not seeing any 'clear all'... Is there a setting I need to adjust? I'm using Nova Prime....

When I Googled it, several reviews of Android 10 said "clear all" was removed.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sam Nakamura:
It's definitely there with stock launcher and I remember about recents now being handled by launcher or something like that, it's probably nova.. (check Pic, it's however German)

Edit: latest build, not using nova on this device and it's the only A10 device I own so I can tell what you're missing on nova settings if there're any, again on up-to-date stock it's there...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Az Biker:
Probably Nova... I wish I could schleiben all my apps :p
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sam Nakamura:
lol :laugh: enough to pass immigration test!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] loadie:
This is with Nova using 2 button navigation. Seems to go away with 3 button nav. I can still swipe apps away though., Just not in a batch
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Az Biker:
Thanks for the info! Which nav button you doing without? Home button? I'm going to try this right now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] knox0x1:
Can anyone point me in the right direction to unlock my bootloader and root my pixel 2xl running Android 10?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] simplepinoi177:
Following the OP of this thread should still get you to where you want to go; most of the info on there is still relevant, even 2 years later and on 10/Q. There are a few minor updates/caveats for your consideration though...

First, after a certain bootloader version (I believe it was the one that came out in April), Google, in their "infinite wisdom", removed the need to run the "unlock_critical" command to completely unlock the bootloader.

Second, anytime a thread is referenced as a resource to download a tool or file, it would be best if you went directly to the developer's website (TWRP, Magisk, Google [factory images]).

Third (and this was always true), actually the best way to install Magisk is to boot (either temporarily or permanently) into TWRP and use the Magisk installation .zip to achieve and gain root -- as opposed to the listed manually patching a boot.img and then manually flashing it.

It looks like, for the most part, all of the links seem to link to the current correct locations...so...there's that.

Good luck and hope this helps...!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] tripLr:
All launcher suck compared to Niagra

Works well on 10

So. I bought a used pixel xl2 on alamzon and received it the day 10 came out.

So far. I got magisk sideloaded and the boot image to the October 10 patched.

Gonna flash it tomorrow.

Long time note 4 user.

Thanks all
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] tripLr:
Got root !
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] SOCOM-HERO:
Anyone having play store download issues? Getting stuck on "waiting for download". I've tried a variety of suggestions and nothing works. Getting concerned something is up with 10/Q.

Tried wiping cache/storage for play store/google play services/download manager, restarts, etc. Nothing. Anyone have this issue?

Also, looks like the always on display settings are absent, I have none.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] simplepinoi177:
Hmmm...that's peculiar....

In addition to clearing the cache and storage, try uninstalling updates for both Play Store and Play Services...

As for the "Always On" settings, I'm finding them in Settings, Display, and "Lock screen display"; if you're not, then that's something deeply wrong!

Some things to keep in mind... I hope you made sure to uninstall any Magisk modules (or even just Magisk itself) when upgrading to 10/Q as it can easily make things go quite "wonky", as I'd come across here...

Try those...good luck...and hope this helps!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] SOCOM-HERO:
Not seeing the setting at all in display settings. I got the phone today and followed the instructions in this thread to go from locked/stock to unlocked/10. I noticed I lost the ability to change AOD and this play store issue around the same time.

Should I uninstall magisk and see if that helps? Maybe it's because it prompted to install a newer version (20.1-59fd38bb) rather than the standard 20.0.0. I don't know what's up. Strange device compared to my OP6 lol.

edit: uninstalled magisk, reset play store/play services and restarted the device. After a few minutes, some apps downloaded and I noticed something unusual installing via the play store "android.autoinstalls.config.google.nexus" - unsure what that is. When I pressed it, it went away. However, other apps will not install that were queued. Very strange behavior imo. I'm also seeing "device not certified" in play store now. It was before...

Still not seeing lock screen display for AOD.

Installing magisk again, in twrp I see "failed to mount /system" and "failed to mount /vendor" in red. I also cannot take nandroid backups getting the same error. I'm more concerned with that since Titanium Backup doesn't work on Android 10 (or at least it isn't working for me).

However, play store does work again. I think the magisk version was the issue. I'm sticking to 20.0.0.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] simplepinoi177:
Well I'm glad you got a lot of it figured out!

In terms of TWRP, it's backup, and the "failed to mount"...that's is a known issue upgrading to 10 -- they're having issues getting "write" access to the system, so Backup and Restore amongst other things are out of the question for now -- and we're all holding in suspense until the TWRP team fixes and updates it.

I'm not understanding how/why you can't see the "lock screen display" settings... I was able to find it, specifically, by searching the search word "always on" in the "search Settings".....maybe you'll have some luck there....?

But glad to see you got Play Store back in order; although I'm on the "Beta" channel for Magisk and had no issues -- I wonder if you somehow were getting the "canary" builds....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] SOCOM-HERO:
I was put on Canary by default and didn't realize it. That's the culprit!

Went to stable channel and all issues resolved. The ambient/AOD issue has been resolved separately from a very odd, but helpful google support thread.

https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13641689?hl=en

I guess I turned it off to test it out without realizing there is a bug in settings sometimes where the option is removed. Getting it back on requires some tricky steps.

I'll wait for a TWRP update I suppose. Very annoying not being able to use either TiBackup or TWRP nandroid recovery, but it is a new device for a family member and I wanted to set it up quickly. My daily is an OP6, where both of those backup methods work. Sounds like I'll be staying on Pie with that phone for a while as the bugs get worked out with Android 10.

Thanks for your help!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] BrokenWall:
I have been reading over some of these threads about getting Root on my P2XL. I am coming from completely locked with latest Android 10 installation. Due to Google's restrictions with call access and blocking apps, one feature I really need is Call recording which is forcing me to root. Sadly alot of these steps are talking about doing this using Android 8 or 9, or when going from 8 to 9.

Anyone able to assist with pointing me in a more direct approach and maybe an idea what to be prepared for with monthly updates.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
Fwiw, I updated to 10 the same way I updated to 9, via dirty flash of the factory image. You'll need to unlock the bootloader, which will wipe your device, so backup all your data before you begin. Make sure to turn on OEM unlocking and USB debugging in your developer options before you unlock the bootloader. Once your all setup again on 10, you'll need the magisk manager app so you can either patch the boot image for root, or you can use TWRP 3.3.0-0 to flash the magisk zip. It will be necessary to have updated your platform-tools on your pc as well. As far as monthly updates go, myself and many others just fastboot the factory image, then just flash root in twrp after the initial boot up to the monthly security update. That's it in a nutshell. Feel free to ask any further questions, but please read all you can before you start :good::cool: