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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] nastor944:
There is no solution for now, people from other forums tries to patch battdrvr.dll.

But two things may help a little:

1.You may completely disable battery monitoring

HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery rename or remove string battdrvr.dll

But you lost monitoring completely.

2. change HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery\Order change value from 15 (in my case) to 0. - After this battery lasts longer until power off.

There is not complete hardware or software solution for this problem. We need to wait. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] nastor944:
Low Battery warning:

By default, a PPC will sound a warning sound when the battery is running low (10%, fixed value), but there's no way to disable or change the notification. To enable this, so that it is visible in the "Sounds & Notifications" control panel, set:

HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications\{A877D663-239C-47a7-9304-0D347F580408}\Default = "Low battery warning" (REGSZ string, no quotes)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] BUMP THAT:
Anybody have any updates on this? I have noticed this more on WM6.1, but it was still an issue on WM6. I just find this so annoying!

Is there any radio that can fix this? I noiced that this battery reading issue only occurs when the Phone Signal is on. When off, it never happens to me. Or it seems. So it has something to do with the radio.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Imperium:
bump, anyone got a solution?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] ChInEsE ChIcKeN:
this is very interesting, i bought the seidio 3200 battery i am having the same problems. i just tired the

change HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery\Order change value from 15 (in my case) to 0

i am going to see how that works out throughout the day
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] ms0529:
Tried It

I am having same issue, reset the registry key to "0" and ran for a full day, no change, still incorrect reading. I have a 2700 Mah battery and the charge indicater is completely wrong on it. I have cycled the battery as per reccoemndations, but still get wrong power remaining readings. Can remove the battery and resets itselft to a more correct reading.

I am out of ideas, guess we need someone from HTC to chime in with a hardware fix.

MWS
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] ChInEsE ChIcKeN:
i have tried it too and it still does the same thing. i would still need to pull the battery and restart the device for the batt meter to get a more accurate reading. i could do it about 3 times before the battery dies completely.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] dampeal:
is there this problem with all extended batteries or just with the larger ones?

the reason I ask is that I've got a $17 credit at Amazon and was thinking of grabbing a 1600mah battery, it's only like $22 with ship so I'll only pay a few bucks for it really...

I wanted to get the larger one but it's fat and won't fit standard carrying case, but the 1600 is slim and will fit in place a regular battery
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] ms0529:
High Capacity Batteries

I have a Seidio 1600 Mah battery as well and it exhibits the same issues. Seems only the standard 1350 battery will issue correct capacity information, at least as best as I can try. I have experimented with the 1000, 1350, 1600 and 2700 mah batteries, all "brand" names, no el cheapo batteries and only the 1350 seems to work as we would expect, which leads me to believe it is firmware in the phone itself that is the problem, programmed to compare useage to the standard battery capacity and report the differential as remaining power. Only resetting the phone, actually removing the battery resets the unit.

I think it is an HTC hardware / firmware issue, but could be wrong. All I know is I have tried 4 different batteries and got the same results.

MWS
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] pepeto2001:
I use a 1600mah battery from ebay and I've never noticed that behaviour!. I was thinking about buying seidio 1600mah battery, but I didnt know it was displaying bad battery meter...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] invasion13:
Hi,

since i've updated my rom, official HTC WM6, from 6.0 to 6.1,

my battery status has changed:

With wm 6.0 i had at full charge a forecast length about 13 to 15 Hours

Now with wm 6.1 at full charge it indicates a 6 hours duration.

Quite odd, did you notice that with official/cooked roms?

regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] juiceppc:
Seems like the extended batteries are not compatible with the Kaiser. Unless you enjoy removing and reinserting your battery all the time... :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] arche3:
hey guys. battery question

Question re: all extended batteries for kaiser tilt.

I know you need to pull out the battery to see the right charge level. but do you have to? when it shows say 9 percent battery and you just keep the battery in and you keep using it does the phone turn off? or will it just keep going?

Is the take battery out trick necessary for function? I can live with the battery meter reading wrong but the phone keeps going.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] aztilt:
Phone will turn off when the battery meter is low. Pulling out the battery reset the meter to about 55-60%. The first turn off time is longer with the extended battery by about 3 hours in standby.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] arche3:
thanks. I bought a cheapo

extended from ebay. Ill see how it works. its a 3.7v. 2800ma. Liion Polymer battery. I am pretty convinced since these batteries are all made in china they are probably all the same since they all exhibit the same behavior. it was 23 bucks delivered. I wasnt about to buy a mugen or seidio extended for 80 bucks and have it still behave all crazy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] arche3:
been using my ebay 2800

after one complete drain and charge overnite. the battery is a beast. just goes and goes. i did the registry hack setting to 0. and I did pull out the battery to reset the gauge. plenty of of juice for web surfing, bluetooth all day, wifi on constantly, push enabled all day, etc. great 23 bucks spent.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] ZoRaC:
Any new development on this issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] shopcity:
I too got a 2800mah battery from ebay i get the same results as well running the battery all the way down then restarting to have it read at 55% i hope sum genius can fix this mess :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] markdmumy:
Does anyone know of any type of "fix" other than removing the larger batteries on the Tilt/Kaiser to get it to recognize the larger batteries?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jamieay:
How does the current measurement work?

Does anyone know how the current measurement works on these batteries? My guess was that there ought to be a registry key that contained some calibration value (which could be messed around with to fix this issue), but I can't locate it. My guess was based upon the phone measuring and tracking how much current it is drawing from the battery - is that not correct? Does the battery itself keep track of current being drawn by the phone?

Jamie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] beanbag1973:
extended battery fix???

I take it by the way this thread has died out, that no one has yet found a fix for the extended battery reading issue. :(

or maybe it's moved to another thread!

any ideas????

cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jamieay:
Nope, I'm not sure that we're going to find a fix. I posted a note just before yours looking for any suggestions as to where some calibration values might be stored in the registry - I couldn't find anything, and haven't heard anything from anyone else. I'd bet a shiny nickel that what I'm looking for is somewhere in the registry, but I can't find it.

Jamie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] beanbag1973:
bummer

yeah, i've also tried searching through the registry... with no luck. I have read somewhere that it could be something to do with the battdrvr.dll file.. maybe someone needs to hack into it. I have edit'd this file, but have no idea what all the numbers mean.

I have also read on another post that people with a similar problem on the ipaq have tried this... plug in wall charger, soft reset, remove battery (leaving charger plugged in) for at lease 1 minute, reinsert battery, then charge to full... not sure if this will work on my tytn ii, but will give it a go and see what happens :rolleyes:

well, lets keep praying someone finds something.

cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jamieay:
Give it a try!

Let me know how it goes!

Jamie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] beanbag1973:
no go

didn't work... still has incorrect reading..

I use a program called Tbattery... it's says the full mAh is only 1920 when it should be 3000...so i guess it is just a software/firmware issue.

anyway, if i find a solution i'll be sure to post it here..

cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jamieay:
Interesting....

Your battery reports 1920mAh capacity - Mine reports 1380mAh. Do you know if the battery capacity (as reported by tbattery) has changed over time?

Is there a util to do a full registry dump? If so, I'd be interested in comparing a dump of your phone to mine and see if I can uncover anything.

Jamie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] beanbag34:
tbattery

When i first used tbattery, it reported the mAh as 2020.. (although the battery had only gone through it's 3rd or 4th charge cycle. it's since dropped to 1920 and that's where it seems to sit now, which makes sense, because when i pull the battery out and re-insert i get about 30% more juice.

I'm not sure what util. would do a reg dump. i haven't really played around with any registry software..apart from PHM reg. editor. but if there's any values of the registry u want to compare, let me know and i can list it here.

how much percentage gain do u get by removing/re-inserting the battery..if any??

cheer's mate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jamieay:
I'll get a pretty good increase - if I take it all the way down to almost dead, pop out and reinsert the battery, It'll show about 50% left.

Jamie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] DeathmonkeyGTX:
I'm on my second extended Kaiser battery. I got it for $20 shipped, and it's a 2600mAH. Most days it gets down to 50-70% and I plug it up to get it back to 100. Periodically (every ~50 charges) I drain the battery until the phone turns off. Then you pop out the battery, wait a second, and stick it back in. Boom, you got lots of extra juice. I don't know how many times it takes before the mofo doesn't turn on, but then I charge it all the way and battery life improves slightly. Also, if you're caught without your charger you can use the "battery trick" to get up to a week of Kaiser if you're using a 40" aerial and being conservative with the device. Without the aerial and using it as normal, I can get 2.5-3.5 days out of it pulling the battery trick. This battery has been through near zero Fahrenheit temperatures and 105 fahrenheit with ~98% relative humidity for days on end, and one year later it's still kickin' great.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] gee2012:
Project Treble seems not yet to be implemented in the current beta ROM. Hope it will be enabled in the stable version to release Google security patches separately from firmware updates quickly.

To check if it is enabled:

- install adb

- enable usb debugging

- open windows power shell

- connect the phone to the PC

- open adb and type: adb shell and look if the phone is visible

- type: getprop ro.treble.enabled

True: enabled

False: not enabled
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 2WildFirE:
for me output is false
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] gee2012:
For me and probably all other beta users too. Maybe it will be build in the stable Oreo version.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mitchst2:
I'd imagine Treble is for patching stable builds only, whereas betas will come as full ROMs.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] gee2012:
Agreed, was thinking the same.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Araa01:
What is this? [emoji849]
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] gee2012:
You mean Treble? If so here it is: Google splits since Oreo updates in firmware updates and seperate monthly Google security patches. Oems that support this can roll out security patches to fix leaks/vulnerability`s quicker (monthly would be best) and roll out firmware updates seperately when they are finished.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitg16:
It would be great to have treble. But if beta version don't have it, I think it won't be there in final version.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] losbeekos:
Treble Nokia 8

Treble will be available in the stable Oreo for the Nokia 8, source: community.phones.nokia.com/support/discussions/topics/7000012202/page/last

ps. I can't post links yet so just copy and paste :D
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mitchst2:
Good news OneUp on OnePlus :svetius:
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] srikanthuk:
Oreo is officially here. Can anyone confirm
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] losbeekos:
I can confirm, just got the official Oreo update notification. Haven't updated yet, still at work.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] srikanthuk:
I updated but don't have a system to check. Do let us know
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cyprox:
My brother got the update and checked, no Treble enabled unfortunately
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 2WildFirE:
I can agree I checked by myself and... False

Powered by Nokia 8
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mitchst2:
As well as the bootloader unlock Nokia need to enable project treble.

https://www.xda-developers.com/how-project-treble-revolutionizes-custom-roms-android-oreo/amp/
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] srikanthuk:
Damn :(
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CazeW:
There's not going to be any treble. https://www.gsmarena.com/current_nokia_phones_will_not_support_project_treble-news-28590.php
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mitchst2:
Strike one!

This could be a real nail in the development coffin even if we get bootloader unlock. Why develop for difficult phones rather than those with treble which apparently makes it a breeze.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mitchst2:
https://www.xda-developers.com/why-...-phones-wont-be-project-treble-certified/amp/

But of a bummer, but with bootloader unlock if we get that treble might be possible on custom ROMs.

Also not impossible for Nokia via ota it's just a risk they aren't prepared to take.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mitchst2:
Sony's solution to OTA partitioning.

http://www.ljdjt.xyz/index.php/2017...mentation-with-firmware-over-the-air-updates/
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TeddyBeers:
TBH if their going to keep updating it seriously fast, expecially year after, fixing the issues, than I'm more than happy to stay fully locked.

I've been flashing loads of ROMs since htc desire Z, through nexus 4, first moto g, than moro x force.

Always there have been something wrong, or just didn't work as it should.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mitchst2:
I'm happy to stay stock if the updates keep coming. However I was hoping come this time next year when we get what might be the last update there was a strong development community behind this phone. Things aren't panning out that way though.

The only thing I'd unlock for right now is a custom kernel with BLN.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jygar:
I’m coming from a Nexus 5x and while Treble support would be amazing it wasn’t a dealbreaker given the speed at which Nokia are doing updates compared to everyone else except Sony.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ryanraven:
Would like to see an unlocked bootloader etc, at least when the phone gets old we can install a fresh custom/stock ROM like Lineage OS to make it feel new again!
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrBelter:
and yet 3 short months later here we are all wondering where on earth the updates are lol
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Toedwarrior:
Well actually there is no development delay. Treble makes it more easy to develop since your problem is not with development treble wouldn't change anything .
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MrBelter:
Would you like me to buy you a sense of humour?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] uchihakurtz:
Isn't March the latest update already? April patch will probably come in a few weeks or days. I'm just seriously waiting on the new Camera UX, man stock one sucks.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bsdnix:
Perhaps I am bit slow and I don't get that Treble project thing. I saw that someone has mentioned some hardware limitations such as partitions of the phone. So what is wrong with flashing the phone with USB cable and perhaps tool like one that Sony has "flashtool"...? Also, someone has mentioned that you need to have open bootloader. I am having Nokia 8 (not sirocco) older version with Android 8.1 on top, and if I go to developer mode, I have option to OEM unlock bootloader. Am I missing something? This means that I can unlock bootloader, right and if so only what I am missing is a damn tool to partition phone and flash Android 8.1 with Treble support... If I didn't understand you correctly, please correct me and explain in simplest way possible.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] arceuss:
That doesn't work just like that. Just checking that option of unlocking bootloader doesn't actually unlock the bootloader. You need to get a bootloader unlock access code file from hmd, flash it via fastboot. Then someone have to build a rom with project treble enabled. As far as I. Know, Nokia 8 doesn't support treble.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bsdnix:
Ok, so as a step one HMD needs to allow bootloader unlock which I don't see any particular problems with that. They can do it at any time. Sony did it via their website.... Also for making those partitions, they can build the tool (I am quite sure that from recovery, you can do almost anything. And with proper tools, that can be solved). I am quite surprised that HMD didn't took that into consideration as (if I understood correctly) for each update they will need to put additional man-hours to "support" ROMs for Nokia's that originally doesn't support treble. Now multiple with all those Nokia's that came with Android 7. That is a lot of working hours. Instead, unlocking bootloader and building a tool can save them lot of time and hours/money in the future. Don't you agree?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
What's wrong with flashing via USB cable is that not all people are going to do this (in fact only minority of techy ones will), so they would still have to support old partition layout or ask everyone to go to a service point which would do it for them. Both are costly solutions.

As for unlocking, the switch you mentioned is only the first step. Next, you have to go to fastboot mode and initiate unlocking via adb. On Pixel and Nexus devices, you simply entered specific command. But on other devices (Nokia, HTC, etc.), you also have to enter unlock code you got from OEM. And Nokia does not officially issue those codes. yet (they promised to do that at some point in the future).
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bsdnix:
I cannot agree with you. As a former programmer, there is no thing that you cannot solve by writing a program. In fact, you can even call commands for flashing phone. Only problem can be installing adb drivers on your machine. Actually, when I think of it, that can be done as well...
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
Read my post again. I didn't say it cannot be done technically. I said that most owners won't do it. The great majority of them are not technical people. So they won't even know that there is an update that has to be installed manually in the first place, let alone installing it themselves.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] VAHLTE:
Pie then?

Any news on whether it's enabled in Pie?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] stuffynet:
No treble in pie
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] S5Guy:
What I'm not getting is that, if the bootloader is unlocked, shouldn't it still be possible to flash a working generic system image?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] arceuss:
Removed
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
Sure, you can flash GSI. But without Treble support, it won't boot.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] S5Guy:
But isn't Treble support a software feature?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] revanmj:
It is. But first of all it requires re-partitioning of the device memory (unless it had unused partitions that can be re-purposed for Treble, like in OnePluse case from what I remember).

Second, it's the kind of software feature that is hard to do by community developers, since it requires a little different kind of driver binaries that support HIDL (HAL interface definition language) standardized by Google. So you have to either get those drivers from similar device that already has Treble support or try to hack existing ones into being compatible with Treble (which takes lots of time and knowledge).

HMD won't add Treble support due to first point (re-partitioning is a risky process and since you'd have to change both slots, A/B updates won't protect you from failure here). On the other hand community developer scene for Nokia 8 is basically non-existent, so I wouldn't count on getting unofficial Treble support this way.
[Magisk] penciluser:
Is it possible to implement this into a magisk module? Or does it need to be baked in the rom which is why most custom ROMs have it implemented.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] AmilDK:
Hi, i'm domenico, i read everyday your forum from italy. I decided to write here becouse i don't know how to solve this damage.

I have the same problem reported here

https://xdaforums.com/axon-7/help/signal-update-a2017gv1-2-0b02-t3602415

I read around that is needed to do a backup of modem and other file but i dont and now i can't use a sim card it says no network connection and when i try to call tell me airplane mode on.

Anyone please know if there is something i can do? i tried to run fastbot for use miflash and restore the original image but it doesn't work can't go in EDL mode
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Choobilsky:
Flash universal bootloader and the modem for A2017 from the lineage os thread. Then you should get radio signal again.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] AmilDK:
I don't know how to do It Can you give me more information please?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Choose an username...:
Is your bootloader unlocked? Do you have TWRP? If you do, go to the LineageOS thread (located over 'ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries') and download the 'A2017X Universal Bootloader' and 'A2017 Modem' from there (there should be a link to androidfilehost where the universal bootloader and modem files are located). Be sure that you download the A2017 modem file (NOT the A2017G or A2017U one!).

After that simply put them on your phone and flash them via TWRP
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] AmilDK:
Thx for the help, i do not have bootloader unlocked and not have TWRP.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] AmilDK:
I've installed TWRP but when i try to enter in recovery (Power + volume up) nothing happen. Just blackscreen
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Choose an username...:
What version did you install? 3.1.1-0?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] AmilDK:
Followed a guide and with minimal fastboot and adb tool put in the phone the 3.0.4-0-ailsa_ii.img successful After that can't go on with steps and if try to open recovery nothing happen
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] WesTD:
Install Stock ROM from EDL with MiFlash.
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] AmilDK:
i tried with twrp 3.1.1.0 same can't access to recovery

miflash doesn't recognise my phone in edl
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] WesTD:
Is your phone on edl mode?
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] AmilDK:
Yes i think had a problem with drivers. I out the phone in edl from cmd with adb then opened miflash but can't see the device