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[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] brainscollector:
Yep, fiance takes care about hugs and more than that.

Poor people that are life frustrated

BTW, dot pattern is only while using Gmod camera sackheads, I'm not using raws to take automatic photos but to take manual shots. Get over it and sell your 5t if you don't like it, there are plenty more phones out there. Buy iPhone Master race or Samsung like everyone does
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] DoKaTSuYa:
Where is the O+5T community ? not much talk here...
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] vercetti:
isn't this correct actually?

I mean, sure it's extra work and not simply click and shoot, but wouldn't this get rid of all the problems that the OnePlus software causes? No more oil painting, lost details,...?

Or is a raw photo shot on a smartphone not comparable to how it is recorded on a DSLR? Is it not an untouched version of the info the image sensor captures?

If so I must agree with brainscollector (even though I would have used a slightly different wording ;)).

Thx,

vercetti.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] ttarze:
Photo taken backlighting.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Bart1981:
I took these pictures today and I think they are horrible. I can't really compare them with the 4.7.4. rom, but to me it looks like a terrible oil painting... Especially zoomed in. And it wasn't even that dark in here.

And when taking a picture zoomed in with the camera app, it gets even worse...
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] meboy:
That is a complete defect or something right?

Those images didn't really capture like that right?

How common is this?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Bart1981:
I'm afraid they did. Images with an object closer to the camera look better. Bit I was quite shocked myself when I saw this outcome....

Not shure if this is normal for a 5T or not.

This close up looks quite ok if you ask me.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] meboy:
Close up still looks terrible. Like something is broken.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] anjugeorge:
Even I feel their less sharpness on the zoomed pictures. Is there anyway this problem could be fixed? Or Can i return and get the LG G6?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] xer0o0x:
is it possible to shoot with the 20MP camera?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] micdarau85:
this is how the low light sensor kick.s in when there is no sufficient light for the main camera on 4.7.4

Works great ... you get more light

https://youtu.be/ja4Bb03OByY
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] TurboBot247:
The G6's camera is worse than the 5T's. LG's processing is just as bad, too. At first glance, LG's shots look sharper, but while they do retain more detail than OnePlus's camera app's shots, much of that "detail" has been processed out with the loss of detail simply being compensated for by oversharpening the image. Colors in LG's app are far more unnatural than OnePlus's, and due to the old, Sony IMX258 sensor used on the G6 (compared to the IMX398 on the 5T), dynamic range on the LG camera suffers, as does low-light photography in general. If you want a better camera than what the 5T offers, you're either going to have to buy last year's Pixel or spend 2017 flagship money for your flagship phone. You could buy a Pixel 2 for $100 more and get the best camera in a 2017 flagship. Or, buy an S8 (but only do that if you're willing to rid the phone of "Samsung Experience").
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] meboy:
Pixel 2 images are horrid, overly processed, fake looking.

Samsung colour accuracy is still the worst flagship.

3T and mate pro are top of the pile for true to life but have some other issues...

There is no great option right now..

I'm waiting I guess.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] SilverSurger:
My images look similiar - very much like an oil painting, especially when zooming a little on the taken picture. I'll try with another camera now.

Edit:

It's quite a lot better when using GCam with HDR+ enabled. Still get that oil painting effect though.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] meboy:
I would immediately return a device doing that. It has to be defective. That's not some slight thing.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] SilverSurger:
I don't think it's defective, the pictures are fine. It's probably a littler overagressive when it comes to the postprocessing, so using the GCam solves the issue for me.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] lucahack:
Agreed
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] meboy:
Can you post what you think a good image is using gcam?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] SilverSurger:
Sure - attached is a comparision. The file "gcam_mod" was taken with the gcam.

Edit: Argh, XDA compresses images apparantly. Give me a sec.

Edit2:

With gcam:

http://i.pi.gy/R8P9E.jpg

Without:

http://i.pi.gy/E149Y.jpg

When viewing at full resolution you can still see the painting effect very clearly. Today I'm more unsure about the quality difference between the two cams, two days ago I thought it was more visible - but that was a sunny day too, today is very cloudy. Still think the gcam is better though.

For me personally the Photo quality is "good enough".
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] meboy:
Thanks for the effort but that subject matter makes it really hard to tell anything.

Just a simple indoor shot with some colour and hard lines would be much better.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] SilverSurger:
Understandable - I'll try to take some this evening and will get back to you.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] meboy:
Here is 100%. Will get compressed but I think they will look really similar either way.

Neither look great but again subject matter..
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] SilverSurger:
Indoor shots:

gcam:

http://i.pi.gy/xkeW5.jpg

regular:

http://i.pi.gy/LNZgA.jpg

Here the difference is very much noticeable.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] DoKaTSuYa:
Can you guys try this :

https://youtu.be/L2UVqCenTdk?t=628

Use HQ Mode for low light...
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] DoKaTSuYa:
And try to find by yourself, when the second 20mpx sensor start to be activated.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] vagkoun83:
HQ has more noise at low light pics..with HQ the results are terrible..
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] SilverSurger:
Ditto here, results are rather terrible.

The second sensor gets activated with light below 10lux.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] DoKaTSuYa:
Really ?, no proof about what you say, it shows that HQ mode has less noise and better details in this video at least.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] vagkoun83:
Whenever I test auto vs auto with hq at the same object the pic taken with hq is worst. Am I the only or has anyone other the same results?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] sammy4fresh:
OnePlus Camera is So Great it make my cousin spent her end of the year earnings on.

I was wow the first time i come across the full specification
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] meboy:
Okay.

Yeah. Gcam is much better. But still seems 3t can't focus. The paper on the desk is almost but everything seems off. It's decent though.

Reg is so noisy. For that lighting, terrible..
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] tiny1055:
I could be wrong but I think HDR mode indoors is really bad on this phone, at least when I was testing it the 2 weeks I had it. Might be worth taking photos indoors with it off just to see if they are better.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Navi44:
Seems 3t is better at Max zoom. No oil painting effect
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] meboy:
That image is so terrible...
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] xer0o0x:
jpg is ****. If I want to photograph something important, I always make a jpg+DNG! Why you talk always about jpgs, you can solve the problem if you do a DNG!
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] meboy:
Shouldn't "have to" do that.

It should Not be sh..
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Navi44:
Happen in dark room. Try with any phone for that matter
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Navi44:
Here is another one in low light with gcam
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] nani67:
these are some pics i clicked....

not sure if they are good or bad, to me they look nice
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] redberkey:
Love the 1st pic, dudes elbow deep in his nose!! Dig me some gold!!
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] fuarkgl3:
Selfie not bad. Rear cam is worse than op3, plus we have one useless cam there too
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] nani67:
Wow,

I haven't even seen it in the pic till u pointed out, my view was always on the bus and how the pic looked like when shot in darkness
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] quetzalquatl:
Useless? Why?

That's a pic made with the secondary camera. Don't judge the subject, just tell if is that bad. No lights in the room whatsoever, only from the notebook screen and keyboard.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] quetzalquatl:
And that cam is used in Portrait Mode too for depth effect.

So, is not that useless after all.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
New version of OnePlus Stock Camera:

https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/oneplus-ltd/

You should install the camera and the service, I do believe the camera had a huge improvement.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] cd993:
Are you able to provide any example shots?

I'm selling my S8 and switching to the 5T soon, exciting!
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
I did not make any thorough analysis but I can assure that even with HDR the photos have not anymore the paint effect when zoomed.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] cd993:
Great, thanks.

Out of curiosity, have you used the Google camera port and if so, what's your thoughts on it and in comparison with the stock camera?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
Google camera port is a holy crap when HDR is enabled in OnePlus 5T. There is a dott pattert in the image that ruins any photo that has been taken with it. The stock camera has improved a lot between versions, the only remaining issue was the HDR postprocessing and I do believe that this has been fixed with this latest update.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] cd993:
Wow, very reassuring! I should be getting my 5T this Friday and will look forward to seeing what this device can do.

Are you by any chance able to provide any low light examples?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
Enviado desde mi ONEPLUS A5010 mediante Tapatalk
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] cd993:
VERY nice!!

Thank you
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
Here is another one
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] pargas:
How did you install? Camera didn't install due to conflicting package. Running freedom os. Should I uninstall original camera with Titanium backup and then try? Edit. Tried to delete the stock camera but seems impossible to remove it. Any ideas?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
I was able to install it only executing the apks.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] PriPhaze:
Looking great to me , i don't know what is everyone complaining about.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] BlitterTwisted:
Can't say I've noticed any improvement in photo quality from using the Google Camera app.

At first I thought the rear camera was terrible. On one occasion I've managed to take some decent shots outdoors with overcast (cloudy) weather. But indoors or in bright sunlight it doesn't seem right to me, it underexposes and is very dark.

Front camera is better than expected though.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
Here is one of our Christmas moose in the office
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Yaime:
Hi there!

I just got my new 5t yesterday and I just saw how crappy photo is makes. I read this thread, installed the latest OT camera and service apk, the Google Camera Port, did a reboot, etc., but still, the edges look crap and the focus is terrible as well. What else can I do? I'm a hobby photographer so good quality matters for me. My Nexus 5x made way better photos :(

I'll show you some photos (before any app update, after OT camera update, and with Google camera)
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
Can you take a picture with your Nexus 5T too? I don't see any problem with the photographies you have posted in this thread :S
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Yaime:
Look at the edges of the box, especially where the phone's and the box's edge meet.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
There is no problem in Oneplus 5T image, Nexus 5x has an aperture of 2f and OnePlus 5t 1,7f. This makes the depth of field of OnePlus 5t shoots smaller.

https://www.exposureguide.com/focusing-basics/
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Yaime:
I know but the quality still looks bad imo :(
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
I don't agree with you.

To check if nexus 5x has better camera shoot exactly the same photo with both phones. The ones you shoot with the OnePlus 5t were from a different perspective and more light. Anyway, you can check in my previous comments several pictures taken with OnePlus 5t and I do believe the photos are good enough for a mobile phone, if you want better quality you should invest in an EVIL or Reflex camera.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] simeoni:
One test to check the camera quality is a close up photo of a book page. There you can see the jpeg processing of camera software. Look at the edges if the letters in both focused and unfocused areas.

These photos are not taken with OP5T but with LG G6. But they show a difference of two camera apps.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] cd993:
Quite pleased with this camera, coming from the Galaxy S8
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] cd993:
Simple, but nice
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] cd993:
.... this!
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] rybens92:
Best smartphone camera I ever had ?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] 3Shadow3S:
the OP5T can take photos in raw mode. So, you can see that it is'nt a hardware problem, but a software problem.

I'm a hobby photograph too, and i know that the phones arent so good than the reflex. They cant be so good.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] PriPhaze:
"Im a hobby photographer" if you really are then you shouldn't have expect DSLRs camera quality out of a smartphone in first place.

You are just over reacting... also the one plus 5t pic compared to the one of the 5X you posted still looks better on the 5T
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Yaime:
I do not expect DSLR quality from a phone of course. I was expecting similar, or better quality than my 2 years old phone had. I found that many people disappointed about this issue, so it's not only me. I'm pretty sure it's software problem cause the hardware is kick ass.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Ziltoidia:
So I took these 3 photos to compare all modes, low light condition, there's only a LED light that's behind computer monitor, the monitor itself and the blue accent that comes from my desktop.

OOS 4.7.6 | Cam APK V2.5.1

https://i.imgur.com/vdAkok0.png

It's really easy to see which does worse (way worse) out of all 3.

Focused always on the text.

IMO HQ does its job, definitely captures more light which gives more detailed text.

HQ

https://i.imgur.com/OTE2LOO.jpg

Auto HDR

https://i.imgur.com/0UyHyOy.jpg

HDR

https://i.imgur.com/UnRapgj.jpg
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] quetzalquatl:
I can't complain about the quality of the camera / hw. The SW... yes, should be improved but the 1+ guys seem to try to do it, so I'll be patient about it. And is always an alternative (Google Cam).
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
Such a bad camera...

I don't know what people could expect from a mobile phone camera but to me this looks great
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Elsydeon:
Nice overall shots, but sadly if you look in the 2nd pic at the clump of grass immediately to the left of the white car, as well as the grass in the foreground in front of the concrete foundation, you can see the oil painting smearing issue the 5T's camera has. It only gets worse if you zoom in.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] avEmonsta:
Those are some excellent photos my friend. Did you edit them in Snapseed? VSCO?

The 5T takes some amazing photos really.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] paliyoes:
Automatic mode, no editing.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] vercetti:
if you look at them on a phone's screen without zooming in they really do look good. but c'mon, look at the first pic from the beach with the people strolling along and the ocean to the right. this pic is the perfect example for the oil painting effect that the OnePlus software creates. zoom in anywhere and you find yourself in an oil or water color painting and not in a real picture taken by a camera.

if you're lucky a print in 4 by 6 inch will still come out ok. but probably not. I suppose even in 4 by 6 a viewer would not be certain if the image he/she is looking at was retouched in Photoshop to make it look that way or if it's an actual painting :)

and in reality it's neither, because like you said, you did absolutely no post processing. it's plain auto mode. no effects. and no effects that you later added. and that's crazy!!! that's what people are taking about when they say oil effect.

greetz,

v.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] alexkara:
Check out, there is a new version of oneplus.camera 2.5.21 (20420195) in apkmirror. These are new versions delivered by developers prior to their inclusion in official updates.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] PriPhaze:
i tried with 2.5.17 , and took some pics, yea there was a oil Paint effect but then... updated to 2.5.21 and it seems to be gone?

Or maybe i need to test it more since i just got the 5T today but so far i'm pleased with the quality
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] zarboga:
Captured by Stock Cam

No Edit
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] rodjak:
How do you know that camera version is for 5T?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] xer0o0x:
I took a picture direct in the sky. The left one is the jpg, the right one is the dng after post production. It´s amazing what you get with a raw file:)
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] geminium:
Open camera. Go settings. All the way down to about.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] ikhwan54:
How does the camera compare to S7 Edge right now? right now im thinking of getting S7 Edge 2nd hand 1 year used for £280 ..the 5T is about £400... Is choosing the S7 E the better choice?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] yelov:
If you can get s7e that much cheaper then I would definitely get it instead of 5t. I went from s7e to op5t and the phone is definitely not that much better. Save your money imo.

In terms of camera, s7 is better because of OIS. It also has better dynamic range and gcam hdr+ works better.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] skim234:
I went from Edge 7 to 5t. Glad I made the switch. 5T is superior in every way except camera and expandable microSD.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] StubRouting:
Thanxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx......

:o

Thanks...
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] szulolo79:
I got my 5t since 3 days and today I did some outdoor photos and 4k movie. Very good condition/light and I must say photos are just bad. Looks good on the phone, but on the tv you can easiliy spot oil painting effect mentioned by others. And the 4k movie.... well it is just awful, no details, some kind of postprocessing/compersion/grain... idk what is it, but it is really bad. Could be I did something wrong as it was first time I ever used 5t for pics/movie, but my old nexus 5x did better job...
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] hoseth0711:
This picture speaks for itself. Really hope Oneplus will make an update that fixes the oil paint effect!
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] brainscollector:
And your post is perfect example of someone completely brainless, whining at photo quality when fully digital zoomed... I just adore you and people just like you
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] brainscollector:
Just quick samples. I know that still I'm not using 100% of what this camera is capable of, but results are satisfying me so far
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] PriPhaze:
Hey man nice pics, btw did you post processed them or you just uploaded them as they was?

Does that have HDR turned on? which version of the camera are you using?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] hoseth0711:
Watch your mouth! I don't care if it's zoomed or not, the oil paint effect is simply not ok no matter what! Mention one other flagship phone that does the same
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] hoseth0711:
Wow, very nice photos indeed!
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] brainscollector:
First was shoot with manual controls in stock app, I'm using Lightroom mobile to edit raw photos, it's not that different from what I have seen with my own eyes and how it would look alike just shoot with auto mode but I always prefer manual just to set iso to 100 and have unprocessed image after that. Second was shot in portrait mode.

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All of them have some kind post processing, I remember when photos from Nexus 5 suck as hard as woman from under the street light, and just check what this phone is capable of now after many updates and new API library. The same goes with op5t, just wait for updates, and yet still you can shoot decent photos if you are using manual mode. I know you can blame stock app for painting effect but basically all phones have that, just here it's blown around term, "oil painting" that explains everything and just can be cause of literally any discussion about camera in op5t. I'm just tired of Indian community on OnePlus that whine on everything in this phone, just everything, from design, materials, screen, UI, to camera itself is "bad" for them, so why the f do they bought that phone ?

---------- Post added at 12:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:36 PM ----------

Here's more of my photos

https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...owcase-them-here.50952/page-677#post-17547856
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] enzo_cz:
Guys, really wanna buy this phone, but having seen lot of complaints of Photos I am being strongly converned. What say u?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] brainscollector:
It's not as amazing and not as bad as you heard of. Some ads on YouTube are paid and most of negative comments are made by frustrated Indians that though that they bought pixel XL for half price in terms of camera quality. It's good if you know how to edit raw photos and how to take photos in manual mode, that's all, after that you can take some really decent shots
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] lilhaiti:
Just look at some of the pictures posted in this thread. This phone is very much capable of producing some amazing shots, is it the best, probably not, but it is pretty dang good especially for the price of the phone. And on that note, twice the money does not get you twice the photo quality...in my opinion this phone takes just as good of a picture as the "best" on the market.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] cd993:
Pretty dam happy with this snapper!
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] AravindhStanley:
Guys is this oil painting effect present in normal shots or only low light shots. And the gcam mod gets rid of it?
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] M4Master96:
not at par
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] 3Shadow3S:
At low lights, i think.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] quetzalquatl:
This is a pic in almost completely dark environment. No light source apart from the panels in front (dimmed at minimum). Not a subject of beauty or some sort of artistic pic. Just a low light pic. And, of course, a lot of grain in dark corners but let's omit that for the moment.

So, I see no painting effect. Isn't it? Or it is and I can't see it?

PS. After publishing I see that the pic was highly converted when uploaded. Well, that sucks.

PS 2. Manage to upload the original here: https://ibb.co/iv1YzG

Hope it'll work.
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] Colday96:
Apparently one reason why the 2nd camera sucks is because there is too much light in the environment we are taking the picture in so it does not switch from the primary to the secondary camera....
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] velocity49:
little bit noisy and blur but go for it
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] alexkara:
Try Open Camera from Google Play. Works on 4.7.6. There are many settings. Description. https://opencamera.sourceforge.io/help.html
[OnePlus 5T  Real Life Review] anndrenaline:
Omg looks exactly like my cat. Gonna try taking her photo on the 5T too.

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How to we get that Oneplus watermark on the first pic? Will Gcam produce that as well?