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[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Az Biker:
I know I'm splitting hairs here, but for clarity sake, it depends what you mean by stock :D

If you use TWRP to restore a stock backup, you will have your stock Rom back, but you're still rooted, TWRP is still installed, and if you run a cust Kernel, that is still present.

If you want to return the device to stock, flash the factory image in fastboot (do not remove the -w in the flash-all.bat file), and you will be stock; no TWRP, no cust kernel, no root (but you will still have an unlocked and critical unlocked bootloader though).

Sorry, OCD kicks in every now and then :p
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Nothing wrong with OCD bro! The more info we all have, the better ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] force70:
Jeez what it is it these days with all the lazy people? No one reads anything and certainly dont use the search function. Just expect to be spoonfed like little babies

Mods need to crack down on this crap, its out of hand.

sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Az Biker:
I understand what you're saying.

But Xda of old used to be very harsh and abrasive to newcomers (granted many deserved it) and Xda is trying to get away from that 'elitist" feeling, and move a little closer to a community that includes devs and grateful, contributing users.

No doubt this is a fine line to walk, and sometimes is a double edged sword.

As you mentioned; rude, entitled, lazy users bombing the devs with ridiculous requests, ungrateful comments, trashing their work, and all the stuff we old timers (and some newer, responsible members) all dislike about the less harsh, less elitist Xda tends to take the joy out of devving for many. And they leave or stop.

It is truly up to the old timers and newer contributing members who dislike the lazy, entitled, non-contributing members to teach them and new members the old ways.

Yelling, flaming, and being rude to new, lazy, or ignorant users only creates more discontent and more useless content.

We should all endeavor to make a few attempts to kindly, and respectfully steer these members in the right direction. Those who are just here for a free handout or to cause trouble will eventually be weeded out.

tl;dr

Xda is a fine balance of development and user in the same community, make every effort to train new users and be an example of what Xda is supposed to be (help, contribute, learn, etc), if you're tired of dealing with these users, don't be rude or mean; just sit back, shake your head, and report the iditos :p

Much respect and gratitude to the members who do the right thing, who patiently help, teach, and guide.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] uofirob:
When did the removing lock screen password become a thing before flashing? It's been a while (and my current process doesn't require me to do it). I try to stay up to date, but with so many pages on so many different threads, I've been falling behind.

I ran into an issue flashing the feb factory image ("Your bootloader is corrupted") so I had to boot to fastboot and reflash the Jan factory image without wipe and things were back to normal, and I didn't have to remove my password to get twrp to work. I've been seeing more threads talking about removing all passwords before flashing, I'm just wondering, why is this necessary? Is the version of TWRP not able to handle passwords well at the moment?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] CyberpodS2:
Just since the Feb update. Is just an inconvenience unless you have banking or other high security apps or the like. Been no issue for me. It'll be fixed I'm sure.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] uofirob:
Does this just impact TWRP or does it impact flashing the Feb Update? (Thanks for the quick response!)
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Just TWRP. Fastboot is not dependant on twrp.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] jrbxx7:
That issue has been covered many times and then some, so i guess u actually read something if u were able to solve it all by ur lonesome. I guess we can put our spoons away. Good job u get a gold star for the day.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] force70:
Lol...he sounds upset he had to actually solve something on his own.

sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
Glad you solved your issue. But why are you so angry?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] pj1000:
I've been here for almost 10 years and I can confirm that, on the average, everyone seems just a little bit angrier these days. Maybe a sign of the times.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] CyberpodS2:
Lol those of us not in NY and Cali are happy...
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Bwahahahahaha!....Nice one bruh! ???
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] galaara98:
but happy in NY an CA is equal to angry from Idaho... so, relative i suppose :p
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] clothednblack:
I live in California and I'm happy.... As long as I ignore our governor that is. ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] force70:
Id be happy if I lived there too, no snow and its never -30 lol

sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] clothednblack:
We get snow here all around us, but not right where the town is, and you are spot on with the temp lol. The only weather that's sucks here is the rain, it comes down hard and sideways.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] force70:
I can deal with rain, dont have to shovel it or clean it off my car lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] wtherrell:
Fires, mudslides, earthquakes. Beautiful scenery but lots of crazy people.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] clothednblack:
I like earthquakes, I'm sick like that. But I don't like the Tsunami warnings that follow here. Wiped our town out back in '64
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Then there's these things that just drop in unexpectedly on us from time to time!! ??

https://www.weather.gov/ict/toptenkstors
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] clothednblack:
Need a thumbs down button for that one! No thanks! Lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Don't blame ya! Impossible not to watch though! You'll never forget it that's for sure!!!! ??
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] force70:
Umm yeah....ill take a pass on the twister.

Snow is better than that lol

sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] imaverik:
Twisters are fun though... they like to play.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
Heyyy! I'm in NY and am pretty happy...just got back from surfing in Florida [emoji41]
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Ehnoah:
So how stable is TWRP actually on the Pixel 2 XL? Worth to Install, or wait for now?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] clothednblack:
It's stable, just have to remove pin and or password protection to be able to use it till it's updated. The February ota kinda borked it, but it does do the job
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Ehnoah:
I see. So with all the new Security it getting harder? Gonna wait for it then. Root can be done without and I dont plan to use a Custom Rom atm, since stock is fine.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] madscribblerz:
Is there another thread tracking twrp's progress on fixing this issue in general?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Not that I've seen. Just have to wait until Team Win or Dees_Troy come up with a new version ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Az Biker:
I've not found a thread for this either.

They've been pretty good about updates when issues arise, but since it's not a huge inconvenience to remove all security before using TWRP, (not like we're in TWRP 3 times each day) I wouldn't expect a special build just to correct that... BUT I've been wrong before :D
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] AndroidClone:
:good::good Just use a custom Kernel and the recovery works a OK with pin
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Wanna bet!! ?

Not if your on the February build it won't ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] pj1000:
For me, changing phone security to "none" only gets me to an frozen TWRP screen when I fastboot the img file. TWRP still doesn't work when I try to use the installed version. even with security set to none.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] otonieru:
By unfrozen, did you actually mean frozen instead ?

You might face a "no touch" issue, which normally can be solved by using custom kernel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Fastboot the twrp.img again. Then see what happens. If it works, then flash the twrp.zip, then custom kernel, then magisk.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
Then you have something else going on. You need to reflash your twrps, as advised above.

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No, that won't work for the Pixel 2 XL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] sirxdroid:
Again, you don't really need to flash TWRP. You can simply `fastboot boot twrp.img` then you can `adb push` files to /tmp and install them. The files will be gone when you reboot as /tmp is just an ephemeral location, when running TWRP think of it as its own OS with its own idea of storage locations.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] djtosh:
Struggling with this security issue as my email forces me to always have security on device and so i cant remove & re apply password everytime i wanna use twrp without removing my email. Does anyone know of a way to bypass the exchange email security issue?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Pkt_Lnt:
Did you try the post directly above yours?

Here is a post with more info on using adb:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=75467677&postcount=989
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Az Biker:
Serious question, no sarcasm at all...

If you're worried about removing security once in a while to access TWRP, isn't an unlocked bootloader a bigger security issue?

Working for the DoD, my work phone has secured email, and there's no way an unlocked bootloader is an option.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] ram4ufriends:
It's not about the security...my corporate email doesn't allow to remove screen password..so everytime I want to go to twrp, I have delete the email account, remove screen password, twrp, add screen password and setup email account again...
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] force70:
Get a work phone, thats what i do.

Well i told them i will not use my own for for work purposes so they gave me one lol

sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] endomatic:
I turned off my WiFi,disabled data and put it in airplane mode. Then removed fingerprint and pin. Proceeded to bootloader and flashed February update let it boot, back into bootloader, boot trwp.img, flash twrp.zip, Flash kernel and Magisk. Let it boot, reapply pin and fingerprint. All is good. Email is fine as well as Android Pay.

Give it a shot
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] micmars:
Precisely.

The requisite unlocking having been made, it seems some are preoccupied with putting the baby back from whence it came.

Prior to the February update, a use of required security in TWRP it provided confirmation that TWRP had successfully booted. If it weren't prompted for your password in TWRP, you knew to reboot recovery. L

Even with an unlocked phone, I can still remotely erase my device from my Outlook admin screen.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] DudeThatsErin:
I am trying to log in to TWRP while keeping my security pin or pattern. When I login to my phone with it it works fine but when I type it into TWRP it says it is incorrect.

Any ideas?

TWRP will work fine if I turn off the security pin/pattern. I don't want to have to do that every single time I go into TWRP.

This is on the lastest version of the Panda 2XL (3.2.1-0).
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] phyl0x:
Mailwise app has exchange bypass built in (well as an option, read their faqs for steps to enable). not the perfect mail app, but its good.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] CyberpodS2:
If you don't want to do that your going to have to live without TWRP or use one of the workarounds ( Which to me are even more of an inconvenience than just redoing the security once in a while) until it gets fixed
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] djtosh:
Im not worried about anything its having to re enter email settings everytime that is annoying.

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Thanks for a useful answer mate, works a treat ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] henderjr:
+1 on Mailwise. Though my work is going with AirWatch soon which sucks. They're going to disable other methods. I think I'll still be able to hide root and whatnot from AirWatch but not sure. Most annoying part is work calendar will be separated from personal calendars.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] corywf:
Nine email app works for exchange as well. It requires a PIN to access the app but doesn't lock down the whole phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] unt0uchable:
Been trying to get my touch working in TWRP. Installed it originally through booting to the temporary img and installing the zip. Just did that again to update to 3.2.1-0 and still no touch when I get into recovery. I'm running a rom but I honestly don't recall which. I'm trying to get to recovery to flash Nitrogen. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
Have you disabled your lock screen security and then fastbooting into twrp?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] sirxdroid:
Power off the phone completely. Start it by holding power button + volume down. Select Recovery from the menu.

Or just boot the TWRP image via fastboot. You do not need to have TWRP installed.

fastboot boot twrp.img
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] unt0uchable:
No lock screen, and when I boot to the twrp.img it works....

...but booting into "recovery" from the boot loader menu, no touch works.

So you're saying whenever I want to flash a ROM/Kernel, just fastboot boot twrp.img instead of turning off and going into recovery?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
A custom kernel should fix the touch issue so you shouldn't have to fastboot every time. But the lock screen issue will remain the same.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] DudeThatsErin:
Ah. I was hoping this was fixed and I did something wrong. :/

Well, at least that's only a minor annoyance.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] sirxdroid:
Hmm, maybe this is new, but touch works for me when I start TWRP from bootloader or from ROM 'adb reboot recovery'. It doesn't work if I reboot to recovery via some reboot app.

Yeah give it a try, you don't really need to have TWRP installed on the phone. I haven't tried it with flashing a custom ROM, but it definitely works to flash a custom kernel + Magisk, that's what I do.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Alxoom33:
When you flashed the TWRP.zip file and the kernel.zip file, also flash the Magisk.zip file in the same TWRP session. That should allow your TWRP to stick and touch to work properly.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] bleez99:
AsAh

Stop using Google Exchange services. I use a really nice paid app, Aquamail, which uses EWS. No IT department involved, and your company will not have the ability to remote wipe your phone. The only entity doing any remote wipes is me. Test drive the free version first. It's a very complete mail application, with a very responsive developer.

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I also noticed the data partition is not encrypted. If you push your zip files to /data, you can read and flash.

Also in an earlier post, fastboot into twrp, push your files to /tmp and flash from there.

I installed Elemental X and Magisk with the push to /tmp method. Easy as pie, no messing with security settings.

I can't take credit for the push to /tmp method, but it works, and did not have to touch security settings.

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Ah yes, one more thing. TWRP will ask you for your password. We know that's going to fail, so cancel out of that to get to the normal TWRP UI.

That's where your opportunity to push to /tmp comes into play.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Nekromantik:
Its strange how TWRP devs not saying they looking to see if they can fix this new bug or not.

Its a genuine problem.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] p70shooter:
Maybe they have real lives they are getting on with, not exactly life threatening is it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Nekromantik:
Urm....it takes 5 mins to let people know that they will be looking at it.

I did not say why have they not fixed it yet or that they are taking too long. :rolleyes:
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] p70shooter:
Maybe you should stop the money that you're paying them...
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Pkt_Lnt:
nevermind, too many tabs open :eek:
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] CyberpodS2:
The fact the same folks you are complaining about have kept the OP listed as BETA tells me we accept whatever issues we have knowing it's possibly not ready for prime time... it'll get fixed when it gets fixed.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] twiz0r:
nm
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] dredq:
What can you safely wipe in TWRP? Can you wipe everything and Fastboot install factory images?

Where is the Fastboot stored on the phone?

If I erase things in Fastboot instead of TWRP what should I not erase?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Badger50:
You can safely wipe data and ART/dalvik caches when flashing a new rom, or before doing a restore. If your going to fastboot a factory image, then yes you can wipe system since the factory image will install the system again. Fastboot is your user interface for bootloader mode. It doesn't actually reside on the phone. As far as wiping things with fastboot, it's pretty much an all or nothing deal. If you format user data with fastboot, you've just wiped your phone, just like wiping internal storage with twrp. Hope that answered your questions.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] MrBrady:
I found a useful work-around for TWRP not working correctly since the February security release. This experiment assumes you already have TWRP installed on your phone and uses the USB Adapter Plug that came with our phone (photo attached) as a USB-OTG storage device.

Plug a thumb drive into the USB adapter plug that came with the phone

Plug the USB adapter into the phone

Boot to TWRP

Once TWRP boots it will ask for your password - press cancel

Press "Keep Read Only" on the next screen

Press "Mount"

Choose Storage 1 (at least that's how it appears on my device)

Click "Back"

Now you can use TWRP as normal, but accessing files from USB-OTG
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Swamphound:
Nice pick! I can confirm that this also works with a OnePlus USB-A to USB-C adaptor and a Kingston Data Traveler 2000 encrypted USB stick.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] eushaun99:
So Storage 1 is the USB storage? So we need to move zips to the USB and flash from there?
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] MrBrady:
Looks like it. Haven't tested further yet.

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Just flashed Flash Kernel and Magisk from the USB-OTG and it worked fine!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] v12xke:
Some of you out there probably already know this, but you can also just put kernel and magisk zipfiles in /data and not need to touch security/fingerprints either. Drop them there beforehand, reboot to recovery, hit cancel to bypass entering your password, hit install, and then navigate to the data folder. Files there are not encrypted so you can just queue them up and flash as usual. This should work with monthly security updates as well.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] MrBrady:
Good to know! That's even easier!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] nldxda:
Is it safe yet to use TWRP to make a nandroid and then boot the phone up next without sluggishness or brokenness in the OS or the constant loading bar upon each boot of Android?

I've been wanting to finally root, flash xposed and install gravity box but still haven't because of the aforementioned issues..
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] DIXZ06:
It is safe.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] nldxda:
Thanks, have you flashed all these things?

Guess I can go ahead and try a nandroid first and see if my phone doesn't get all screwy afterwards
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] CyberpodS2:
I am currently running a restored Backup after trying a couple custom roms. No Ill events that I can detect.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] nldxda:
Thanks, bout to give it a go..
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] CyberpodS2:
Just tried this on the latest flash kernel update. Copied flash and magisk to /data and went and did my thing. All good brother! Thanks for the info!!
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] nldxda:
so it looks like its actually NOT safe to temp boot TWRP and make a nandroid and boot back into android OS..

After booting straight into android, I get the slow loading google screen, and the sluggish OS upon loading... everything is slow! Also, each following boot also still has the slow google screen/loading bar present, followed by OS sluggishness..

To clear all these problems out, I did adb sideload ota.zip and even in the stock recovery, I had to wait a few minutes until it "connected" to my phone before I could flash the OTA..

What is going on with this and why hasn't anyone else reported this problem? Only one other person in this thread has confirmed to have this issue as well..

I used "twrp-3.2.1-0-taimen.img"
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] TheUndertaker21:
This seems to be a very slow development.

I'm surprised since twrp devs usually quick as updating and fixing issues.
[Google Pixel 2 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Az Biker:
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would you temp boot into TWRP, make a nand, then boot back into your current setup? As soon as you rebooted you lost TWRP from the temp boot.

The slow connection and slow boot comments make me wonder if it's maybe a hardware issue?

I DON'T mess with OTA's, I just use the factory image, so not sure if there is a different process there.

Are you using a USB 3 cable? Have you tried using a USB 2 cable?

To rule out any gremlins, maybe try starting from scratch using these steps.

I've used this literally dozens of times and it's always worked.

Best of luck!