yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Suzook1:
can some kind person do a quick video on how to do the ADB for this PLEASE
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Wagedroid:
This beta 2 that is posted by op is not unofficial, it was just released then immediately pulled because of an issue with com.phone.android constantly crashing. I've been running it since release and I have no issues. I wrote a few pages back detailing what I did cause I too experienced what you have as well as many others with my initial install.

I would also like to note that another user in this thread with at&t is not having any luck with this beta 2 no matter what they did, but I can't guarantee they followed my process. Best of luck.

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Would've been easiest to update via SD. There's plenty of tutorial online, and on YouTube on how to sideload. ADB is the same all across the Android platform. Remember to chooses sideload in recovery.

And wipe right now before you flash ota
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] JeffATL:
What's wrong with ATT one? The aqgl posted in the op for s8+ is unlocked,? Is that one good f or ATT?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Crsdr37:
You get it if not pm me I can help you.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Reechings:
Anyone know if it's possible to Odin flash just the modem/baseband from a newer nougat build onto a beta 1 existing system? My LTE signal works but is a bit finicky and i thought it might be because i am using the sideloaded ATT beta 1 on a Canadian S8
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Wagedroid:
I think it should be okay, only thing that would really screw you up is if you flashed a bootloader from nougat on and Oreo build. Post results
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rohitece06:
Well I did follow these steps (post #268)

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s8+/ho...pdragon-s8-t3700907/post74502061#post74502061

I also did factory reset but I still ran into same problems.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Arden144:
How did you manage to do this on a Canadian S8? I have a G955W and there is no AQGL baseband for my phone. The one provided has a model mismatch in odin..
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] nofearkingbiatch:
I finally flashed beta 2. Everything runs good. Only negatives are battery life is worse then beta 1 and there's a problem with the lockscreen. When I lock it whatever app I have open stays on the lockscreen and the music plays also if there is any. Haven't had any force closes or anything. Probably gonna go back to beta 1 tho.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Reechings:
Try this one:

http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=32D570EF8EBC11E7963AFA163EE8F90B

I did update from my sdcard for the Oreo part though.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Arden144:
Okay. Now I really screwed myself over. Don't know what I did but I flashed back to my phone's original odin images and now I'm getting an error for drk missing. No idea how to fix this! Help would be appreciated as fast as possible haha
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] eregev:
Are you flashing all 4 files (and CSC not HOME_CSC)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Arden144:
Yeah I was. It was failing to boot from dm-verity and even my Telus stock image didn't work but the engineering one from SamPWND does work. I'll try this again on a different day
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] eregev:
PM me if you need more help. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] JeffATL:
Can someone let me know if it makes a difference which firmware I Odin for the AQGL (ie xaa, xas etc)? I am currently on ATT prepaid but may switch to TMobile soon ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] a13xemz:
Has anyone been able to grab the OTA files so that those whom are not enrolled can update?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cam30era:
Keep an eye on this thread for a flashable zip to update > https://xdaforums.com/att-galaxy-s8+/how-to/looking-brave-people-to-try-t3699352
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mabk:
Flashed AQGL to Oreo via recovery and I'm still on 7.0... what gives?

Can anyone provide insight into what might have happened even though the flash appeared successful? I skipped step 1 because I think I am on the latest baseband.

Is odin recovery different than the built in recovery or something?

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I can't download the baseband (should I be getting the carrier-specific one or unknown?). Every time I follow the link it redirects me to https://www.sammobile.com/join/ even though I'm already signed in with a free account. Any tips?

update: The earlier versions of the baseband are actually accessible, but can I use those? Also Is it really 3gbs?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Wagedroid:
1) follow directions. No one said you have to be on the latest baseband.

2) Odin doesn't provide a recovery

3) search but more importantly READ. All your questions can be answered with this very simple process.

4) yes these builds are 3-4 gb.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mabk:
Thanks for the reply. I'm understanding the resources to be downloaded more now. Though, I'm not sure where to download odin from; is it included in one of the links?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kieppheubac:
I am on CRD4 from crc5.

The battery isn't much improved but the charging time is noticeable faster.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
crd4-cre2 up
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mopartonyg:
??? What does your post mean?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
crd4 to cre2 is up to download... -.-
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mopartonyg:
Ok thank you was not sure.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
CRD4 to CRE2

S8+

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mrO5YtzZJR4kGiKpeqSsJFKqxPlHCbC-/view?usp=drivesdk

S8: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XbKEFU0jVxKyk73yaffMWC9UhZEpqeL7/view?usp=drivesdk

*credit to FatalONEM8 for sharing the link*

*rename the file with adding .zip*
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jac0b:
Which is the newest update S3CRE1 or U3CRDA?

Update: I found my answer if I used simple alphabet order. SMH
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
CRE1, you could also get CRE2

update: didn't see the bottom of your comment. SMH
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
its pretty good
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] real77055:
was on CRDA. tried to odin back CRD4 and after that CRE2 and got samsung experience force close.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
that's weird, it's working fine when i odin back to crd4 then to cre2.

try reflashing crd4 in odin then flash the cre2 in stock recovery. if it still says it force closed, you'll have to try factory resetting. if it still continues go to cre1 and wait for the next update after cre2
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] real77055:
I did it twice. also tried to just boot with CRD4 after odin. again force close. the only thing thats worked is to flash back CRDA. yepp, have to factory reset
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
because what i did was crd4 ap,bl,cp and HOME CSC.

then you have to add . zip to the cre2 file and flash that by using flash by adb or sd card in stock recovery.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] real77055:
R U sure about Home CSC? should be just CSC/ yep I know . the file was without .zip(common thing)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
if you wanted to keep your data then yeah home CSC
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aroy97:
Could anyone tell me why the updates are being made for CRD4 instead of CRD7, I would assume, most people like me are already on this firmware. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why aren't the updates made with the latest firmware in mind.

Would seem like a pain to have to Odin back to CRD4 and then flash the desired firmware, i.e. CRE2. Sure it'd take 10 minutes tops, but why not just make a direct zip for flashing from CRD7? Just curious
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jdelano:
It's because CRD4 is the officially released firmware version
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cbendixe84:
Holy crap. They finally updated the S8 on USC
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] fish2222:
Which version? I didn't get an update available.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] FatalONEM8:
U3CRD4, I saw it on samfirm
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] fish2222:
That's the one I'm on, so I guess I picked the right one! [emoji23]
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Engr610:
So flashing HOME_CSC in Odin will retain everything? I'd like to go from CRE1 to CRE2 via CRD4 Odin, but don't want to go through the lengthy process of restoring my current setup.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Dudash:
I had that exact same problem after flashing CRDA and then trying to go back to CRD4. Samsung experience home kept force closing no matter what I did. I tried reflashing CRD4 multiple times, cleared cache in recovery, etc. I could access settings and luckily smart switch still worked because I had to factory reset as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Wagedroid:
Battery stats on CRE1. Over 4 hours of screen time 12+ hours since full charge.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] fish2222:
I've lost 10% in an hour. This is crd4.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
yeah home csc keeps your data intact only the att models wipe after each flash
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] unk2009:
Was it difficult switch from cre1 back to crd4?

Greatly appreciate all your help
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] FatalONEM8:
Not at all it's super easy.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] unk2009:
Thanks, did you use the link that shared a couple of pages back for CRD4 via SD Card?

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Were you able to do it via the SD Card or did you have to use Odin?

This may be a redundant question but will I be able to receive OTA updates after I flashed to CRE1 via the SD Card method?

Thanks again for your help.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Engr610:
Just my luck.....I am on ATT...ugh!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] maliibu31:
You know, I flashed an update via SD card on my S8+ (Verizon) not too long ago and I already forgot if it wiped my data or not. This post reminds me it does not lol.

Is CRE2 Playstore certified?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
play store is certified on cre2
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] amieldl143:
Bro. Are you able to get U3CRE3 for

g950u?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] FatalONEM8:
Maybe.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tailgunner9:
Waiting on post with CRE3 from someone Please
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kcsevo:
CRE2, for me, stutters a lot. Battery isn't that good either. Looking forward to CRE3 to test.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jpholmes:
CRE1 was okay, CRE2 was terrible. Had overheating poor battery and performance.

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Are there any apps that you guys recommend to increase performance for S8+
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mperez19:
I'm currently on CRD7 looking to go back to CRD4 in order to flash CRE2. I already have the CRD4 firmware, so if I flash that with the Home_CSC, I shouldn't lose any data correct? Using Odin of course.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Dudash:
Correct. Home_CSC doesn't wipe data like the other CSC file does.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Jay Goom:
Unless, of course, you're provider is AT&T...in which case, data WILL get wiped regardless of flashing Home_CSC or CSC. Supposedly you can avoid the auto-wipe by rebooting just before a certain script is ran...but I never had much luck in doing so...but it has worked for others.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] FatalONEM8:
Um no, flashing HOME_CSC doesnt wipe data, neither does CSC_OYN. What does is update zip flashing and flashing USERDATA in odin.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Jay Goom:
Good to know. Thanks for the clarification.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jpholmes:
Is CRE3 coming soon?

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Did you hear that oneplus has already started working on Android P beta and we still busy with Oreo.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tailgunner9:
G955USQU3CRE4 & G955USQU3CRE5 is on the server but only some people can get to CRE3, CRE4 & CRE5 so just have to wait..... It will be on over in June before we even get May Security Update.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jpholmes:
Why hasn't Samsung enrolled in Android P beta
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] FatalONEM8:
Come back in October :)
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aroy97:
Okay so I went from CRD7 -> CRD4 through ODIN, then adb sideloaded the CRE2 update, now when I boot, it tells me that Samsung Home Experience has stopped working. I somehow managed to install Nova Launcher through recent apps list in play store so I'm able to use the phone temporarily. Anyone know how to fix this as I want to go back to the default home launcher. I tried installing the latest apk and it fails, says "App not installed", would really appreciate anyone's help.

P.S. - It also says Edge Screen has stopped working and yes I have cleared data/cache
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] FatalONEM8:
Try wiping data.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aroy97:
I tried resetting settings which didn't work, don't want to wipe my phone though, I have too many things saved and installed, it will be a pain to reinstall everything and setup again.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kcsevo:
Just do a back up through backup/restore in settings then factory reset. I had similar issues and factory reset was the only way to resolve it. Then I restored everything.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tailgunner9:
Just got S3CRE2 Update from AT&T on S8+. Wish I had know this few weeks ago since it was on server that long. Could have already had it on phone. OH Well??
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Dudash:
Wow. Samsung is updating their bootloaders fast. The latest builds on the FOTA sites for the S8 and S8+ are U4CRE6.

People were complaining that it had terrible battery life so I didn't update either.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tailgunner9:
Yep I agree. See server has them up to G955UOYN4CRE6 Never know what carrier will use.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] FatalONEM8:
The reason for this is because Samsung ****ed up and forgot to patch samfail so now they have to increment the bootloader again and include that patch.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mehdyabdul:
hello everyone, i used to play around with roms long time ago. now i'm trying to learn again. i have a galaxy s8 locked to cricket. i found a thread that provided the files to flash to a different carrier firmware. i tried it and failed(auth). im thinking it's got something to do with the fact that my phone is updated to the latest bootloader g950usqu3crd4. is there any hope for this phone? thanks for the help
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jpholmes:
I went to CRE2 from CRD4. I experienced poor battery life and overheating. So I reverted back to CRD4. Hoping all issues will be resolved in next update.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] dv8ed:
Been trying to get my G955U1 firmware back to G955U I'm on bootloader U3 no wonder it keeps on failing. Guess I'll sell Verizon phone unlocked with un-bloated firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lilpetamoix:
Hello, I'm currently on G955USQU3CRD4 (VZW) and would like to switch back to T-mobile.

Do I just download G955USQU3CRD4 (TMB) and flash with Odin 3.13.1?

It would be great if someone can confirm if this is doable.

TIA!
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] allenjthomsen:
actually the latest on their firmware site for the s8+ snapdragon is G955USQU4CRE8 not a good sign at all from what i can see especially if they patch samfail.

It also looks like anything above CRE4 for G955U1 will also be bootloader 4 so dont run anything above CRE2 on your phone either until it can be confirmed that CRE3 and above wont block samfail.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] macmane36:
Why do you say it's not a good sign?

why do u say it's not a good sign?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jdelano:
Yes that will work
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] amieldl143:
Do you have the file CRE8 Or CRE9 for S8? Can you pm me on how to pull files. Samsung.firmware.science not working even by manually doing it. Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lendawg:
Those aren't showing up for me on samsung.firmware.science either. Only goes to CRE2.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962339331458994432

credit to 3Pelin for uploading

s8+ cre8: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=890278863836287655

Note: if you use Google Pay, cre8 is uncertified
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Dudash:
Also note: if you don't like the update, you're screwed until we get an Odin firmware using bootloader v4.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Engr610:
Anyone try CRE8 yet? I'm willing to take the plunge. Will report back.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jpholmes:
Yeah, can anyone please try CRE 8 and report back?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Josephigloe:
I'm on cre8 on s8+ with no issues, installed great no issue and everything is smooth and battery life is awsome.

Just remember you have to be spot on on your install cause if it fails or bootloops your stuck with no phone until they release bootloader 4 Odin files.

There's no going back be warned.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Engr610:
I will probably not dirty flash to retain data. That's a precise method with no room for error. I'll just let the entire update process run its course. I am do to get a replacement phone from Samsung because I have that constant "moisture has been detected" issue that won't go away.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] fish2222:
Apparently USC is pushing out cre2 now. I'm thinking I may stay on crd4 for now since people are having issue with cre2 it sounds like.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] clownin72:
I haven't noticed anything bad yet on cre2 except maybe a little more battery usage but not 100 % sure on that. But also it's hard to tell after just 1 day after updating
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lendawg:
Battery has been excellent for me on CRE2 and it feels very snappy as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
The only issues im experiencing is the play store stuck on "downloading" when updating apps and random reboot when you power your phone on after unlocking the lock screen
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cbendixe84:
I actually am enjoying the cre2 update. Battery really isn't that bad for me. Performance wise, it seems better for me also
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Engr610:
I took the plunge and installed CRE8. Nothing major to report yet.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
Battery and performance seems way better when disabling Samsung Experience Home and use Pixel Launcher
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Drdra3:
Cre8 for me, is leaps and bounds better than cre1. No stuttering, no lag, no random crashes, amazing battery, etc. I don't think the phone runs better than it has from day 1
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jpholmes:
I'll update to CRE8 once the odin files for bootloader 4 are out.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Engr610:
Hopefully coming soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Engr610:
Since I updated to CRE8, I have not gotten that constant "moisture detected" message. Hopefully it was a real fix.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lendawg:
Do you just sideload from sd card to update?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Engr610:
Odin back to CRD4 (if not already there), then install the CRD4_to_CRE8_update.zip in recovery.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lendawg:
Ok thanks...is battery and performance any better with your experience?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] fish2222:
They don't seem to have that update on the samsung science site.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Jay Goom:
Deleted
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kieppheubac:
Stay away from cre2.

Heat up my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Engr610:
Look on page 345
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Dudash:
Not possible to Odin back and CRE9 has been available on ATT servers for like 2 days.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Jay Goom:
How does someone get the firmware from the servers? You said CRE9 has been on the ATT server for 2 days...how can I get that update zip myself, instead of waiting on someone to post it? Better question, for the people that do post update zips...where are they getting them from? Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Dudash:
We have programs that scan their servers and it gives us links that other programs can use to download them. I'd upload and post the update but since people will be stuck on it until an official update and Odin files using bootloader v4 come out, I don't want to be held accountable if people want to downgrade but can't.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mecampo:
that being said, is it better to wait for the official bootloader v4 before we continue updating firmware again? btw I'm on CRE1

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Jay Goom:
I understand your hesitance to not be inadvertently responsible for people's mistakes. I truly do. I'm not interested in any update uploads. I'm interested in how they are obtained. I would like the same capability. What "programs" do you speak of? User-Agent? Any insight would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks again.

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Being cautious, you absolutely want to wait for the official BLv4 ODIN files. If anything happens to your phone while on BLv4...there will be no going back until the ODIN files become available. If it's your only phone...it's recommended you wait until so.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mecampo:
yup, this is my only phone so I would patiently wait.

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] nofearkingbiatch:
Anyone have the crd4 s8+ Odin files. I went through a bunch of pages and must of passed it. Sammobile isnt working for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
https://tx5.androidfilehost.com/dl/...863836285281/ATT_G955USQU3CRD4_ODIN_Files.zip

Flash ap cp bl and home CSC. Don't flash user data.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kieppheubac:
I am on cre2. Is there any fw that I can update via recover ?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Marsh10:
Only 3crd4 to 4cre8 up. That's if you're willing to update to v4 bl and stay there until there are official Odin files to roll back