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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] planedoc:
Usually first Monday of the month is when they post monthly security updates if I'm not mistaken.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] twiz0r:
Obviously not if you check your phone for updates every hour. Thanks for playing. Good day.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] nikhil.agrawal:
I thought it's coming with 8.1, hope Google releases them with security patch. Would be better.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Peylix:
I could care less about the color boost. I use immersive, so the nav change is moot for me.

I just want my godamn camera audio fixed for video recording. It sounds like a webcam from 2004.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mrjaydee82:
Update yay!! And now I'm very pleased with the display
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] photostu:
if you fine peeps get the chance... some before and after pics would be stellar :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] MrMeeseeks:
Did they enable VoLTE in the update as well?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mrjaydee82:
This is from my girls pixel 2 xl. Before and after
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mrjaydee82:
Doesn't look like it
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mac796:
What the hell is wrong with people why are you useless? Maybe was inside joke I hope
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] MrMeeseeks:
Ok, thanks. I guess I'll stay on 8.1 then.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xKTx:
AFIK, VoLTE can only be enabled at 8.1. This update is still 8.0 so there's no VoLTE still. As for the color options, I still prefer the more natural colors.The boosted is fine, just a tad bit more vibrant than natural. But the saturated mode tho! The reds really pop, almost to the point they hurt my eyes.

Here are some pics btw (left to right: boosted, natural, and saturated)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cescman:
Except for galaxy S4 for a year, I used exclusively nexus devices since the Nexus one. Perhaps I am not that used to the vibrant colors of samsung devices, I actually had no problem with the old natural sRGB display before the update. Just updated few hours ago and I changed the display settings back and forth...... and yes... I agree the more saturated display usually does look better, but it's also a bit fake to my eyes
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Mele:
I'm wondering if I'll get that update since I'm on 8.1 developer preview?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] varun.gid:
no u wont u have to revert back
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dratsablive:
Depending on your carrier, VoLTE should already be working. I needed a new sim card from AT&T (Plus they had the wrong information on my phone in their database.)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] a.demarco:
Got the update yesterday... Saturated is too much, boosted looks pretty good to me. Happier with the display now for sure, although I am still having touch response issues.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Scottatron:
And no-one has posted the OTA link? For shame XDA, for shame.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Krusej23:
Still haven't received this update on my phone. I thought Google was supposed to change their rollout method so that if you checked for updates, it would give you the latest update.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] NWTSCL:
Odd how it still isn't available on Google's Factory Images site nor on their Full OTA Images site. They only offer the Sep 2017, which is what came with the phone.

https://developers.google.com/android/images
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] WorldOfJohnboy:
:Feverishly mashes update button to no avail.:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] raidflex:
I got the update last night, so far so good. Also VoLTE has been working since I got the phone on Verizon.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Shuthefrontdoor:
I don't understand, I had volte with tmo before I returned mines
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] TheSt33v:
November update has been added: https://developers.google.com/android/ota
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] pahlerc1:
What's the EMR version? Unless you have Verizon, looks like we're still waiting for others to get posted... I'm on Fi, neither of those two look like the factory images I need
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xlr8shun:
not sure, its only for the pixel 2's though, none of the other devices have an EMR version whatever it is..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] nxt:
Mine is purchased from Project Fi, I just applied the 8.1 EMR by sideloading and it works.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] pahlerc1:
Okay cool. I'm gonna wait out some of the afternoon here and see if more get posted before push the EMR version.

Thanks for letting me know!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Jigganaughty:
I haven't read thru all the pages of this thread but if you have your Pixel 2 XL on T-Mobile to take advantage of their offer, the update will NOT show up. I kept trying it all day and it just kept saying I was up to date. I popped in my VZW nano-sim from my V30 and voila, OTA update showed up on the first try.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xKTx:
My bad, I should have specified I was talking about VoLTE on AT&T. My apologies again.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xlr8shun:
on tmobile as well, took advantage of the $325+$100 promo..

can confirm that i have also been mashing "update" all day with no success, however when i also remove the sim and reboot, i still have no success in getting an update that way either.

unfortunately i do not have another sim to try
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] homegeek:
Why would T-Mobile block the update?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EMcTx:
I just got my phone, and haven't put sim card in yet. Was able to get update immediately. This is a good alternative for people who don't have another sim to put in, like me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] BoozYooNit:
Probably because it includes more than just security fixes. T-Mobile damned near always insists on a 3-week testing period before approving any new builds, especially if the builds involve firmware changes to any radios. (And it also gives 'em a stick to poke Google with for that Verizon-exclusive deal.)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] akenis:
Tmob here also. Sep .010 build. No luck checking for updates. Looks like OTA sideload is available:

https://developers.google.com/android/ota

So tmob should be on Nov .025?

If you put Verizon Sim in you could end up on the wrong build .023!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Enphenate:
The audio recording quality during videos is still abysmal. Seriously sounds so bad compared to the last 3 generations of phones I've owned (OG XL, S6, S7). Saturated mode is a bit extreme, not quite as crisp as last years Pixel. Hopefully they fix the audio recording quality in the next update.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Justintoxicated:
If I have the unlocked phone, but verizon as a carrier, which version do I need? Also, I do not see any 8.1 downloads on that link.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] ilal2ielli:
Use the non-carrier specific images.

Unless you want to not to be able to unlock your bootloader...

8.1 is in the developer preview images.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] akenis:
8.1 isn't out yet unless you sign up for developer preview. And it doesn't include fixes in Nov 8.0

Did check for update from system settings? If no luck you would sideload Nov .023 OTA.

Edit...based on above comment I'm not sure then.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
My guess is they aren't. OTAs get rolled out in stages. Since Verizon is the exclusive carrier they probably get the first wave of rollouts. I know Google was supposed to be giving people the OTA who manually check but I never got one even on my OG pixel XL. My guess is that feature isn't fully implemented
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bigblueshock:
I am on Verizon, but I purchased the Pixel 2 XL from the Google Store, Unlocked.

If I plan on doing a "Factory Image" reflash, which should I choose? Why would I choose Verizon over the regular build?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
The Verizon build might have a specific radio that will give you the best possible experience. I'm on T-Mobile. I flashed the wrong build on my OG pixel and kept losing service while my wife who was on the correct one had no issues
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] twiz0r:
you want unlocked, not verizon.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
I'm pretty sure that the Google store phones bootloader on Verizon always stay unlocked no matter what. So you want to flash the Verizon build
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] akenis:
According to chat with my Customer Care Preferred care....you are correct about using the non Verizon version on a Google purchased device, even if it is used on Verizon Network. He said it would work on multiple networks.

I was thinking that the Verizon version had something specific to make it work better on that Network. Perhaps?

Support also said that the Google purchased phone should not get bootloader locked if operated on Verizon. We talked about this in the Pixel XL forums also...some said if you put a Verizon Sim in your phone the bootloader could lock. Google said if that happened they could fix it. Maybe a way to get a replacement? Haha..

Still perplexed about not getting OTA on my T-Mobile...care said it was phased, and he didn't know about supposed news about checking for update working on demand.

Funny...finally decided to not root so I can do this OTA stuff!

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That's what I was thinking also. If it was my phone I'd use Verizon build.

Lots of answers!

I had weird issue on original XL also. I unrooted and went back to stock to try and do OTA from my T-Mobile Sep version. Finally got OTA to work and I ended up on the wrong build. Had to download the full package for flash-all Oct build.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] twiz0r:
i'm not leaving anything to chance. my device works great on vzw without their build so I'll keep it like that
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robstunner:
I just got my Panda 2 XL GE and im on September with no updates available :( meanwhile my black on black 2 XL is on November.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bigblueshock:
Just wanted to give everyone an update with some testing and events. This is how being on Verizon with an Unlocked Pixel 2 XL works... Disclaimer: I did not mind redoing my phone

-I started on OPD1.170816.010, Sep 2017

-I updated immediately to Preview (was an OPD3 build. I guess at this point Google scanned and saw a Verizon sim) because I wanted transparent stock navbar

-Today (11/7) I left beta and Google downgraded me to OPD3.170816.012 with Sept 5th security patch

-I checked for updates, and it saw the November 5th update 57.7mb. After this update, my phone was on OPD3.170816.023

Moral of the story, From experience... If you have a Verizon Sim in the Unlocked phone when you initiate the first update, it may move you over to an "OPD3" build. Nothing wrong with that IMO. The only extra apps I saw installed are My Verizon and Verizon Messages, which I use both anyway. (Verizon Messages works great on an iPad. Allows you to make calls over Wifi). Bootloader unlock ability does not change. You can still unlock bootloader.

Edit: Did anyone figure out what EMR means? Looks like that's the build i got put on
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Lambetts:
Yeah but, the audio on the video is not fixed....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Don_Perrignon:
Why are people talking of TMO blocking the update? I thought carriers have no control on a Google phone (Verizon version aside).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] silentscreambt:
What about the burn in effect prevent? Does it work? I really want to buy this smartphone but I'm scared about it :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Lambetts:
Well, it makes the navigation buttons grey after about 3 secs. Technically it should help but, time will tell.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xlr8shun:
OTA Updates still subject to Carrier approval:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/7bfkdr/psa_pixelnexus_updates_can_still_be_subject_to/

i dont know about you all, but i got tired of waiting on TMobile to approve it and just sideloaded the OTA. the same place you can download the OTA google also tells you how to sideload and update.. cant get much easier, and absolutely quicker than mashing "check for update" all day...

google dev ota link: https://developers.google.com/android/ota
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] spooki_spaghetti:
I honestly might do this after work tmo is going pretty slow with it
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
Maybe we all should blast TMO on Twitter
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] raidflex:
If they take 3-4 weeks to allow security updates, kinda defeats the purpose of being on a Pixel phone and getting the monthly security updates.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xlr8shun:
its not that they take that long to approve security updates (theres speculation they dont have to approve just "security" updates), this particular update also had features in it. i bet this is what is holding up the process..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
But nothing effects TMO....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bxlegend:
You would think that by now people would've stopped asking why they didn't receive the OTA and just sideload it. Complaining here is just the epitome of futile. Is sideloading dangerous? Only if you don't follow the instructions. Will it wipe your data? No it won't.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] CarpathianSS:
Can I sideload on 8.1 DP or will I have to remove DP and drop to 8.0 to sideload the November patch?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bxlegend:
Revert to 8.0 and then sideload which will require a wipe.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] akenis:
Took the adb sideload plunge.....

Ewww. Saturated is kinda gross cartoon world. Makes me dizzy!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Doug8796:
Very upset the video camera mic still sounds like a tin can 2003 cellphone on the XL. My daughters LG 70 dollar tablet sounds way better
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] funcrusher:
I hear you. I may return mine because of it. I'm not going to wait around with my fingers crossed.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] imnuts:
The build you're on won't affect the bootloader being able to be unlocked, and an update won't unlock or relock the bootloader.

The VZW builds will work marginally better on Verizon as they will optimize the radio formate for Verizon's network. The generic images will still work fine, but you may have slightly lower performance over cellular.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mkeehn:
Anyone with Project Fi get the OTA? Mine hasn't received it. Or are we waiting for a Fi specific build? I know there have been some of those in the past.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Anaelith:
No Project Fi ota for me yet. I really hope this fixes the Bluetooth microphone problem.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jasonfreeland:
None for me either.

Edit: Took the plunge and did the update via adb. Is it normal for it to say "failed to read command: no error" and stop at 94%? My phone shows the November 5th security level so I'm assuming it worked anyway.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mkeehn:
Okay, not just me then. Good to know. Any of you (Project Fi users) get your promo code for the Home Mini? I haven't. I can be patient, just want to make sure I didn't miss it somewhere.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dude_savage_89:
I spoke to support about the OTA

I spoke to Google support about this.

I told them I use the Pixel 2 XL on a T-mobile netwrok.

Here's what they had to say

When I asked if I could just flash the update using adb, they said

I'm waiting for a couple of days, but I'm going ahead with a manual flash on Sunday.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wtherrell:
Google P2XL is still on September version. Update says my phone is up to date.

???
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] galaxys:
Join the club...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] akenis:
Mine said that also. Think phone finished before adb process. Everything seems normal to me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] toknitup420:
Just flash the factory image if your on a Google store version
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Cowbell_Guy:
Can anyone on Verizon confirm this?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] CarpathianSS:
I got tired of waiting for project fi users to see patch. I side loaded mine and then my wife's when she saw the new saturation options. I can say that my device has had network connectivity issues ever since I side loaded. I would be on t-mobile and then lose connection to the cellular network. Instead of switching to the next best network(for me it would be sprint)it just left me high an dry with no cellular service. These issues are still occurring and I am having to speak with google multiple times still with no definitive resolution. The only difference between my device and my wife's is that I was on DP with 8.1 before rolling back to 8.0 so I could get the patch. She hasn't had any issues with her device after side loading.. Best of luck to ya.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
Which build did you sideload
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] CarpathianSS:
That's the first thing I thought of when my issues starting popping up. I was at work asking myself, did I download the wrong one? Oh $#!* what have I done. Luckily after verifying both the file name and size I can tell you with 100% certainty that I loaded the non-verizon build - 8.0.0 (OPD1.170816.025, Nov 2017)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wtherrell:
I'll do that when I get some time next week.

Thanks.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] silverxbv2:
Finally got the update today. I'm on T-Mobile
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dantes5823:
Well thats a good sign. Guess ill just keep spamming the check for update whenever it comes to mind lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Anaelith:
I ordered from the Google store and not only did I already get the promo code but I got my Mini in the mail yesterday. If you use Gmail, check in the "Promotions" folder/tag, that's where the email with the promo code ended up for me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Kusanagi Fire:
Getting tired of waiting for the OTA to be ready, so trying to sideload. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but when I push the update via ADB, it gets stuck on "Verifying update package..." It just stays there and I've tried letting it run for 15+ minutes.

Any advice/suggestions would be appreciated.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] erojas388:
Try plugging it into a different usb port that worked for me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Kusanagi Fire:
Thanks, yeah, I decided to take the plunge and use my USB A port. I had to pull out my A to C plug out for this, but thankfully it's installing now. Looks like I'll have to keep this handy if OTAs are going to be this slow every month.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Cowbell_Guy:
For those of you with the unlocked phone from the Google Play Store on Verizon, which boot image are you guys sideloading? Have heard that the Verizon specific image may offer better cell signal quality... However of course don't want to break the phone... And definitely don't want to relock the bootloader. Anyway just wondering what you guys were doing.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Kusanagi Fire:
Sideloaded the Verizon version and no issues.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Cowbell_Guy:
Okay thanks, good to know. Just curious why did you choose the Verizon one over the other?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Kusanagi Fire:
Nothing scientific but I assumed there's a Verizon specific build for a reason. Sorry, wish I had a better answer for you.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mkeehn:
I ordered directly through Google Fi, so out of curiousity I just chatted with them on support. The agent said they would be sending out batches of codes on Wednesdays for the next couple weeks.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dantes5823:
Still nothing on TMobile for me. And still no Google home mini code.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wtherrell:
I saw in, I guess another thread, a way to get the update without sideloading. It worked for me.

Involved clearing data from Google framework services then force stop. Go to system, update and hit the button - - several times if needed.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
If you used a Gmail account. Check in the promotions tab. That's where mine was. I've also seen people say the spam folder
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Legobricke:
I wouldn't recommend this option...

Clearing data from the Framework and cause the phone to get wonky.... Lost notifications.... etc.

I've been down this road before and although it does get you the update (in most cases), I ended up doing a full reset a couple of days later due to the phone having issues.

One upside is that if you have enabled "back-up", I found it restored the phone and set-up almost 100%... Screens/most settings/ passwords etc.

So, the restore wasn't that painful.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dantes5823:
I had got an email a while back saying in 4 weeks before shipping id get the code. then nothing. has anyone contacted google over that?

Still haven't gotten word on my trade in as well.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wtherrell:
I experienced no problems at all. Did not have to restore anything.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
You can check in your trade in status in the Google store. Check your order for your new pixel and you'll see the trade in link to see the status. I got that same email. But the code for the mini came in the promotions folder. Look there
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mkeehn:
And on cue, I just got my code and placed my order. Still no November update, though....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Imprezive13:
I'm in the same boat with you. Also I haven't heard anything about my trade in status, as I sent the phone in 3 weeks ago
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dantes5823:
I think I'm SOL for the mini. The dates for orders were till like October 19 and my pixel is ordered on 22nd. Oh well no biggy. I have a Google home already.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bigblueshock:
I still don't understand what the deal is with the November Update for some people. Maybe we can add a poll to the thread? Just a thought...

"What major US carrier did you receive the November update with, or did you NOT receive the November update with?

Option 1/2 ATT Yes/No

Option 3/4 Tmobile Yes/No

Option 5/6 Verizon Yes/No

Option 7/8 Sprint Yes/No

Option 9/10 US Cellular Yes/No

This is my first Pixel device. I had a Nexus 6P before. Eventually Google let Nexus 6P owners hit the Check for Updates button twice, and guaranteed the update when it was released on the first Monday of the month (assuming not a holiday). Regardless of which carrier you're on...

It honestly seems to me Google is now SIM/Carrier scanning during the check update process... Or is going back to the phased rollout of some sort
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Lawlrus:
I've been using Nexus line phones for years on vzw, and it's very hit or miss. Out of all the Android versions I've been on, with all my phone's, I've had a vzw specific radio offer an upgrade maybe twice out of 20+ times?

If your radio is fine, stick with the same one less you HAVE to update. Most of the time issues we're from not updating the vendor on other devices. Radio and bl *normally* don't need to be updated.

I've had more bunk radio updates that I've had to roll back than not
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mkeehn:
Finally got the update prompt this afternoon and have installed it. (Project Fi user)