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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] julian67:
My two-penneth:

I think it's really important to keep SELinux set up exactly as mandated by Google. If people know enough to believe they ought to change it then they can surely do that for themselves.

Dolby Atmos: Please don't substitute it, it's probably the best audio enhancer out there; more and more movies are becoming available with Atmos soundtracks. It also has the great benefit of an off switch, and it doesn't cause problems for other apps with their own audio systems and/or hooks i.e. NeutronMP, UAPP, Airaudio, BubbleUPnP's Audio Cast and so on. I have tried Viper audio in the past and feel really strongly that this is something that individual users ought to choose if they want it, and they can enjoy/suffer the results good or bad just as well as if it was baked in, without making the ROM unviable for people who find it problematic.

I use Atmos for watching movies on my Tab and it is really surprising how good an experience it can make of the two built-in small stereo speakers, or even earphones. For 2 channel music I switch it all off except the level normaliser and enjoy the music pretty much how it was intended. As far as the extra features of Viper audio and similar I know people love all those headphone frequency response correction systems out there but a long time ago I realised that next to using some decent headphones they are very lame. It's quite enlightening if you have two different earphones that are included in those apps which claim to make one earphone sound like another, or to correct deficiencies. Apply the super scientific corrections for each earphone in turn and listen in wonder as the earphones acquire a whole new set of problems without ever quite correcting the supposed intrinsic faults. Different? Yes. Better? Hmmm (Hmmm is the generous version, for use in polite company).
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MotoJunkie01:
Thanks for the input. I, too, like the OEM Dolby Atmos features on the Tab 3. I'll leave it in place and will most likely include any additional audio features as optional installs, allowing each individual to install what he/she wishes.

As to the SELinux modes, I just finished my custom kernel for this device. It has insecured boot support and init.d capabilities. Most importantly, it can be toggled by the user between permissive and enforcing modes. I've added the Lionfish CPU governor and moderate over clocking from 1.0GHz up to 1.21GHz. After thorough testing, this has not caused any notable increase in CPU temp or strain on the Cortex A-53 CPU cores. I'm working the last few bugs out of the custom ROM now.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pndwal:
Re overclocking potential:

It's been a while, but due to a screen fault I just got out my warranty info and noticed I'd kept the original Lenovo box sticker for TB3-850F. It says: CPU:MT8161P QC 1.0GHZ 64BIT. So it seems on-line information, Kernel Auditor, Phone Tester and CPU-Z etc, are in fact reporting CPU / Vendor correctly as MT8161P.

I guess CPU speed may still be crippled by MT6735 hardware / SoC. PW.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeblaGaming:
Why are all downloads from MotoJunkie01 not working (and his account disabled )
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pndwal:
See post #339 here: https://xdaforums.com/android/general/guide-lenovo-tab3-8-tb3-850f-t3559786/page34. PW.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Catscratch:
Thanks. But there are already oreo roms out there. :confused:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pndwal:
For what?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pndwal:
What device do you have? PW
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Catscratch:
Tb3850f
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pndwal:
Interesting as I monitor 7 XDA threads for TB3-850F, as well as the Russian development thread at 4PDA for TB3-850M & TB3-850F.

No members in these threads are aware of any development beyond N, (LOS14.1, RR) for this device. In fact, we have only just got stable LOS14.1 for TB3-850F through efforts of Russian developers [MENTION=628215]chipa[/MENTION]76 and [MENTION=5968730]al_rus[/MENTION] of 4PDA, & [MENTION=8548258]wezroot2k[/MENTION] of XDA, and are happily trailing. -See recent posts in this thread: https://xdaforums.com/android/general/guide-lenovo-tab3-8-tb3-850f-t3559786/page42

If you have O ROM for TB3-850F, please give me a link and we'll have a good laugh at ourselves but will be otherwise ecstatic! PW
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wezroot2k:
PW before anything else about what catscratch said i must let you know that in recent times there been lot of talk of O being able to be ported to many devices through android new Treble Platform(google is your friend)but only on devices with Treble support, but there DEVS who are using twrp to make non support devices able to support treble which in turn will make it able to install custom roms even PIE.

Was gonna mentioned it in your main Thread but wanted to deal with LOS port First.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Catscratch:
Ok. Sorry. Maybe I got a little bit confused here with all the device model numbers.

I'm using a Lenovo tab 3 8 Plus. Maybe I messed up the model number? But isn't this a tab 3 8 forum?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pndwal:
Good point, and I'm very aware of project Treble.

Do you think you may be able to utilise it to develop our device? PW.

---------- Post added at 09:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:41 PM ----------

That's a shame - was really looking forward to trialling Oreo. :)

Need to be quite specific with model numbers to identify platforms, etc. I think if you check settings, about tablet, you'll find your model is actually TB-8703F or similar. (Or could be TB-8504F, but that would be Tab4 series.)

Yes, ours is a 'tab 3 8' series device. But these are all (as far as I'm aware) running on MediaTek platform.

However if yours is a 'tab 3 8 plus' series device its a very different beast (the plus makes a difference), running on Qualcomm Snapdragon platform.

Its a similar story with other OEMs. For eg, my Huawei Ascend Y550 runs LOS14.1 ported from Huawei Honor 4x. This is a "Cherry" series device. However many are confused as they have Huawei Honor 4x also, but its "CherryPlus" series. The former runs on Qualcomm Snapdragon platform, and the latter on HiSilicon Kirin platform.

Hope the information helps, regards PW.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wezroot2k:
For sure, might take some work though.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pndwal:
Good stuff. Look forward to the time. PW
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pndwal:
Just out of interest, what actually is your Model number in Settings, About tablet? PW
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Catscratch:
It's TB-8703F.

Running Android 8.1.0 (los 15.1)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pndwal:
Ah - Qualcomm Snapdragon device. - Both performance and OS well ahead of ours too. :( PW
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pndwal:
ANNOUNCEMENT:

This thread is now largely discontinued, although it will continue to be a valuable resource.

For further discussion go to this thread:

https://xdaforums.com/android/general/guide-lenovo-tab3-8-tb3-850f-t3559786 Despite threads title, a general discussion on TB3-850F continues here for now.

For NEW THREAD For Stable & Near Bug Free TB3-850F LOS ROM, go here:

https://xdaforums.com/android/general/rom-lineageos-14-1-lenovo-tab-3-8-tb3-t3900320 Regards, PW
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] zeko_1992:
i need custom recovery for SM-P601 / 3G 5.1.1 Lollipop

links for CWM AND TWRP is dead

plzzz help
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] norman88:
You could find TWRP 3.1.0-1 for SM-P601 (20170326) in this link (post #1):

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-1...-p601-cm13-unofficial-builds-note-10-t3272812
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] zeko_1992:
ok .. thx
[Touch Cruise General] allanmb:
I got my Orbit 2 last week for valentines day and am loving it! The only problem I have so far is that I cannot connect to HSDPA. I am on O2 UK and in an area where I think there should be coverage (Newcastle/Gateshead area). I have it enabled on the phone yet 90% of the time I get 3G and the rest I get Edge! I got a new sim with the phone so it *should* be compatible....

Does anyone know if this is a problem with the handset? Or is this area not yet covered?

Thanks

Allan
[Touch Cruise General] mrvanx:
afaik HSDPA is only available to business customers dude :( I personally left O2 last year due to the REDICULOUS prices they charge for data. Tmobile webnwalk has HSDPA available to everyone and the bill works out a damn site cheaper.
[Touch Cruise General] be_vigilant:
Check out 3 instead. I swapped from 02 and never looked back

£20 a month for

600 Texts

75 any network minutes

1 gig a month on HSDPA speeds!!!
[Touch Cruise General] allanmb:
I have just switched to O2 so leaving them is not an option! Mind you the tarrif aint bad! 600 cross network minutes, 500 texts and unlimited we browsing for £35 pm. Coupled with that, the Orbit2 only cost £49.99 which is pretty good.

mrvanx, I am on a business tarrif so that shouldnt be what is limiting me as far as I know...
[Touch Cruise General] jonboyuk:
Strange - I'm on Online 30 with unlimited txts & internet with my yearly discount) for £20 pm and I get HSDPA no problem...
[Touch Cruise General] phsnake:
u need to check coverage - for example - Glasgow is no tcovered at all. Shame
[Touch Cruise General] Aleemz:
I Don't get HSDPA in Stockton/Middlesbrough, but I was in Luton over the weekend and saw the H symbol a few times.

I'm on the 600 minutes, 1000 texts, and unlimited web bolt-on, and insurance for £42:50. Still deciding whether to keep the handset (Orbit 2) or wait for something with better drivers.

I havn't cancelled my contract with Orange yet, where I get 800 minutes, 400 texts, unlimited data, and Care (insurance) for £52ish.

Decisions decisions.
[Touch Cruise General] allanmb:
I managed to find a coverage map for HSDPA (http://www.webmap.o2.co.uk/map.asp) and it looks like there is very little coverage for o2 at the moment. Only major cities South of Leeds have coverage...
[Touch Cruise General] nickbro:
I only got a H on my phone when I was in Bristol Temple meads. Anywhere else the post I got was a 3G sign, mostly G tho
[Touch Cruise General] nickbro:
Acroding to the HSDPA map, the middle of no where in wales (Search:NP7 0EX) and it's HSDPA, yet somewhere like plymouth is not, how odd
[Touch Cruise General] Anks:
I believe it is just coverage, I'm on O2 and I live and work around Docklands in London and almost permanently have a H displayed.
[Touch Cruise General] ~J~:
I've noticed I often get a H too, although more commonly I get an "E"? What's this mean?
[Touch Cruise General] HandySpanner:
It means Edge.
[Touch Cruise General] mrvanx:
With regards to the 'Middle of nowhere' getting HSDPA you never know that might be where O2 did thier trial for it?? But its more likely they did the trial on the IOM since they hold the contract for telecoms dont they??

Im quite staggered how little HSDPA coverage they have since Tmobile seem to have it nearly everywhere where there is 3G??
[Touch Cruise General] S0ylentK:
H in most of Brighton but on Vodafone

Before I realised the RSS thing had sucked 80mb from my data plan oops .

have to be careful now.

:)
[Touch Cruise General] nickbro:
Nope, middle of nowhere was not the trial, only seems to have gone HSDPA in the last month or so, as it wasn't HSDPA when I was there on my phone.
[Touch Cruise General] Dashers:
I get HSDPA in Bath with O2, works a treat.

Strangely enough HSDPA appeared across the south west just after the outage on boxing day (or was it the 27th? can't remember exactly).

Alas, where I live I don't even get Edge. Which is why the Wifi is so useful. If I want to download anything big, I just do it on Wifi.
[Touch Cruise General] pebsuk:
Watford

I pick it up when working in Watford so would guess it's a coverage issue..
[Touch Cruise General] dysoong:
I think its a coverage problem. I'm in london (north, east, and south east usually) and get an almost permanent H symbol.

The only problem for me is that the speed is effectively the same as 3G, in london anyway.

I've disabled HSDPA to test this and get 121-128Kbps for both 3G and HSDPA.

(try http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed or http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1 to test for yourself)

O2 customer support reckons that the number of users in London is overwhelming and this reduces the speed.

Pretty crappy if you ask me....

My friends assure me that data speeds on O2 increase significantly when you get outside london, but I've not had the chance to leave the big smoke since getting my Orbit2.
[Touch Cruise General] AdamR78:
This is (probably) a stupid question.

I have the Polaris, and live in Fulham, work in the city - yet I only ever get GPRS or Edge... my phone didn't ship with a new sim card, is it possible that I need a new one for 3G or HSDPA?

A.
[Touch Cruise General] redredwine:
still on the limited rate here. anyone noticed an increase without highlighting their problems with O2- i've had one fruitless conversation with O2 cs that i hope to not repeat!!
[Touch Cruise General] kutonglupa:
UP!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[Touch Cruise General] loomx:
I now get hsdpa everywhere, before i only got gprs usually, and youtube now works 100%, never worked before.
[Touch Cruise General] redredwine:
Nope i'm pay monthly with bolton and still stuck with crappy speeds. Anyone else? Are you still limited snalbansed?
[Touch Cruise General] snalbansed:
Still slow

Yes, unfortunately. I haven't got around to clearing an hour in my diary and composing myself for a tortuous discussion with the customer service experts...

What are the key words to use?
[Touch Cruise General] Aleemz:
Middlesbrough town centre looks like it's just been upgraded to HSDPA - showing over 800kbps.
[Touch Cruise General] itolson:
I am on contract with the free bolt on and do not get any better then 16k speeds on hsdpa....

are you guys on business contracts....
[Touch Cruise General] jimbouk:
I'm in Boro too it seamed to change over at 8.30 this morning.

How can you tell your getting the full 800k rate. I'm on a business contract so should get it but i know thats no guarantee.
[Touch Cruise General] jimbouk:
Just done a test with dslreports.com.

I'm getting 76 kbit/sec im assuming kbit/sec is the same as kbps.

Time for a call to O2.
[Touch Cruise General] DMAND:
Is it me is or is O2's HSPDA coverage alot more patchier recently, before I used to get a "H" almost al the way along my tram journay (Walsall to Birmingham) but now I get the whole range G, E, 3G, and H and now at the front of my house 3G back H :confused:
[Touch Cruise General] Aleemz:
I use dslreports too.

Got home from work and noticed I'm getting H at home now too :)

@ DMAND, I haven't noticed any negative signal issues.
[Touch Cruise General] Aleemz:
Read post number 52 on this thread, and from there-on you'll see how some of us with consumer contracts got the speed restriction lifted from our sim cards.
[Touch Cruise General] itolson:
thanks for the info....

I have contacted CS several times since february as i have been in a H Signal Area since i got my orbit 2.

they keep insisting my account has no cap but i only get 112kbps.

I then got the its because of the amount of traffic, but at 7am i doubt that, i have emailed cs tonight again and will phone them again tommorow.

is it worth contacting the press office or has this door been slammed shut now.

thanks in advance.
[Touch Cruise General] phsnake:
no HSDPA in glasgow still. :-( Biggest techie city in scotland. Shame on You O2. In bloody edingborough it is. Shame on o2 double times.
[Touch Cruise General] nickbro:
Now get HSDPA in center of plymouth, and mostly into the university too. Only Edge where I am tho. Haven't run a speed test yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm still capped
[Touch Cruise General] Aleemz:
I'd still try the press office, but form the posts on this thread it would appear they are reluctant to deal with us.
[Touch Cruise General] dysoong:
Yes they are reluctant. I had a bit of a personal email communication going on with one particular person at the press office, but they stopped answering my emails when I started asking difficult questions and posting difficult responses to their statement here.

I think we hurt their feelings when we questioned the accuracy of their statement... poor things. ;)

I'd still say go ahead and annoy them if you're still not getting full speed HSDPA. They obviously told bare-faced lies when they made up their nonsensical story about "provisioning errors".

Sod the CS team if they're not being helfpful. Go shout at someone in the press office instead.

:)
[Touch Cruise General] Chalky:
3G Capped for O2 PAYG - Confirmed

After a an email exchange with O2 Customer Technical Support UK, I got a reply back from Paul L from O2 who explained that O2 PAYG 3G HSDPA users will ONLY get a maximium of 128k on 3G HSDPA speed.

Quote "Our Pay and Go customers will only get the standard lower 3G speed, which is around the 128k mark.

Only contract customers on O2 will get the full HSDPA and 3G speeds.

If your are after True HSDPA on a PAYG network it looks like T-Mobile is currently your only choice!
[Touch Cruise General] chris10230:
I know this is something that is usually overlooked but you do have a 3g sim card as i had been with o2 a while and never got given a 3g sim and had to ask them to give me one so that i was able to access the 3g/hspda network

Hope that helps
[Touch Cruise General] philm99:
To the guy who mentioned Glasgow;

I've been working at the Airport for the past few weeks (up here for 7 weeks), and have been getting HSDPA no problem on my Orbit two, full signal, bandwidth tests show ~1.5mb/sec. :D
[Touch Cruise General] BadTasteUK:
Sounds like you do need a new SIM card capable of 3G, but also check your BAND settings on the phone, and ensure you not restricted to "GSM" or 2G.
[Touch Cruise General] nickbro:
phone up your phone company and ask for a 3g sim, they should send you one for free
[Touch Cruise General] DMAND:
I needed a new 3G SIM for my Orbit2 rather than ring up I walked into a O2 store and they gave me a SIM which was activated within a couple of hours, now I get HSDPA
[Touch Cruise General] LargePig:
My Orbit 2 has the 'H' but speed tests come up <80kbps.

Confused :confused:
[Touch Cruise General] MusicArt1st:
At least you get 3G 8-(
[Touch Cruise General] LargePig:
Yeah.. Don't know how though 'cause I seemingly don't have a 3G SIM... Or didn't anyway, I've got one now, waiting for activation :D
[Touch Cruise General] nickbro:
is there any way of telling if u have a 3g sim card? without being in 3g area? Just wondering cause sometimes I get a 3g symbol, and sometimes not
[Touch Cruise General] MonkeyWorld:
Pretty sure when I loaded KaiserTweak onto my O2 Polaris it said that the HSDPA capability was disabled in registry - so just set it to enabled and working fine for me - although am on business tariff
[Touch Cruise General] AdamR78:
Got my 3G card now, get H in most areas. But IE is still slow :) Opera is performing nicely though.
[Touch Cruise General] TheOnly1:
3G SIM card???? Strange thing. My SIM (MobilTel Bulgaria) is almost 10 years old and I don't have any problems with 3G or HSDPA.
[Touch Cruise General] allanmb:
HSDPA is now available in my area - the O2 map hasnt been updated but I now get a nice H in the Gateshead/Newcastle area - Happy days :D
[Touch Cruise General] Straputsky:
Having the H is one thing, having the speed the other. Have you tested your speed? I heard several rumors that o2 cuts the transfer rate (for private users, business users are not affected).
[Touch Cruise General] p.dixon0:
Yeah, I'm getting the 'H' in Gateshead / Newcastle and also in my home town of South Shields. Done a couple of speedtests on dslspeedreports and got max of 135kbps which is better than the 3G 128kbps 'cap', but no where near the claimed 9 times faster than 3G!!

I suppose having the HSDPA functionality in my area is better than not!!
[Touch Cruise General] DMAND:
Test your speed and see how happy you are now

I get a crappy 120kbps On HSDPA and 118kbps on EDGE :mad:

Looks like HTC arnt the only people who need petitioning
[Touch Cruise General] MusicArt1st:
HDSPA - South East Durham

Yesterday 12/03/2008 I was getting the 'H' HDSPA symbol in Newton Aycliffe and Darlington areas where I wasn't the day before. the speed? 128kps. Drive a mile down the road and there's no 3G :confused:
[Touch Cruise General] reyjabs:
Speeds mentioned in this forum is way too disappointing and run in contrast to claims made by O2 on this advert.

I believe you guys had a legal basis to request for the removal of "speed" capping or claim a reduced monthly bill.

The rest of us are enjoying speeds way much beter. Just check http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=370624
[Touch Cruise General] Straputsky:
So far it seems that this behaviour is only in your country. According to a german forum the speed there is ok.
[Touch Cruise General] Ekky2000:
I'm also on o2 and can log on to HSDPA for most of the day, i did get just below 200kb/s when i first got my 3g sim. But will 4 hours the best i can get is around 130kb/s
[Touch Cruise General] kutonglupa:
Something in O2 UK's ROM is slowing down the download speed. Use WWE(Original HTC Polaris ROM), Bepe's, Panosha's or any other cooked ROM's and you'll see a dramatic speed increase. Of course use a non-O2 UK sim.:D
[Touch Cruise General] HandySpanner:
What are you using to test the speed?
[Touch Cruise General] Ekky2000:
i've been using http://text.dslreports.com
[Touch Cruise General] Graffen:
Personaly I think the problem with slow HSDPA speeds on the O2 network have nothing to do with the phone, but rather the fact that O2 has only recently begun to roll out it's HSDPA network.

I'd imagine that for the first while, the speeds will not be great, thinking around 1 MBit*, then as the roll out progresses the HSDPA speed will increase to it's full capacity.

I know that T-mobile had slow HSDPA speeds when they first rolled it out.

*don't know the exact speed as this is going from memory
[Touch Cruise General] kremnos:
Coverage varies. Good in some spots bad in others. Radio comms is funny stuff!
[Touch Cruise General] rickgillyon:
I complained about my speed of 130k to O2 because I was getting 400k on Edge previously. They upped my speed as a result and I'm now seeing 650-700k in the same location...
[Touch Cruise General] dysoong:
@rickgillyon:

Can you please tell us how you managed to get this speed upgrade? I've tried O2 customer services five times now and every time I get variations on the the same answer:

"there is not a speed limit, there is no available upgrade in speed, its all down to your network coverage and congestion."

I think their answers are complete bollocks. I've now tested my HSDPA speed all over london (and at different times), in preston, manchester, glasgow, leeds and on the train periodically going up the west-coast mainline in the UK and have never ever seen a speed more than 134kbps.

So - can you tell us annoyed customers exactly who to speak to at O2 or exactly how to complain to them to get a decent speed. They have this annoying policy of firewalling the tech support team from the customer by getting customer services to ferry questions to and fro between customer and tech support.

It be nice if someone with proper speed HSDPA could post a little video of them doing a speed test on their phone whilst using the O2 network so that we can direct the obfuscating tw@ts at O2 CS to the website just to prove they're talking nonsense.

sorry for the slightly ranting tone, but the more people make a noise to O2 CS, the better chance we have of getting decent HSDPA speeds.
[Touch Cruise General] rickgillyon:
I have a business account, I just emailed the standard CS email address for business users. The 130k is the limit, as they clearly told me mine had been upped from 128k. Problem is you don't have the direct contact with support without a business account. Good luck!