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[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] 314NTMD:
GSM should have known it`s a defective unit& redo the test before posting the review. How come only they get subpar battery life results on U11+ while others report great battery life and a nice screen?

Personally, I think it`s important to get a review right the first time especially it is quite a reputable site.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Cherry_Blue:
I wouldn't be so sure, it could be that HTC are having trouble with the new LCD6 display.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] paatha13:
Well until now only GSM is writing the worst things.

All the other reviewers like those Android central not mention such issues with both battery life and screen quality.

Also all user here at XDA having the device are very pleased with overall quality and performance on the U11 plus.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Cherry_Blue:
Android central said that the battery life provided between 4 and 7 hours of screen on time which isn't very impressive.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] paatha13:
4 to 7 hours SOT is very good battery life.

I imagine the 4 hours SOT is with LTE most of the case and high brightness level and 7 hours with most WiFi and lower brightness lever for example 40-50%

With my Galaxy S8 plus that’s the SOT I get so as I can see HTC has the same behavior and no problem.

Now I’m having one week now Huawei P10 and having 5 hours SOT per day mixed WiFi-LTE usage.

So judging from that the battery life for HTC is above average and on par with my previous S8 plus and current P10.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galactus:
Heh I've heard it all now
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Cherry_Blue:
My point with that statement is that a key feature of the phone is a HUGE battery which comes at the cost of weight. Now if this extra 30g of unwanted weight isn't able to provide more battery life than say the LG v30 then it seems really quite bad.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galactus:
Agreed and yet you make these claims based on ONE review, despite the user reviews who claim over 24 hours use with good SOT, good SOT when under heavy conditions on LTE and youtubers like Tech Zilla who had to delay his review because he couldn't drain the battery with normal usage.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Cherry_Blue:
I actually have the device on pre order and would wish nothing more than gsm arena to be wrong so I don't have to send it back but they seem more objective in their testing than the youtubers I've seen so far.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Arcide:
They have always been biased towards samsung (or whoever pays the most). I wouldn't say they're exactly the most objective review site.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] iad77:
Fear not... the gsm arena reviewer does post on the comments and his reply to someone yesterday was ....

"Hey,

1. No you won't notice the low brightness. It's hard to explain, but the screen somehow looks brighter than it is, a few of our colleagues thought it had an above average brightness than our tools measures. So, no, I wouldn't be worried about this. Plus - the screen has great contrast and lovely colors, so I think you'll like it.

2. The phone easily lasts at least a day, and even two days with a normal usage pattern - using the phone before and after work, lunch time, and before bedtime."

Panic over? :D
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] papaettoui:
Hello guys,

I will buy the htc u11+ from hong kong. It will work on Europe networks?

Thanks
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] papaettoui:
Guys i just received the device.. All set.. All perfect.. Just an issue with the screen.. The screen is not as clear as expected.. And the brightness must be also in full to be ok.. I dont mind to have it in max brightness.. But the issue is with the screen.. Is there any solution or that's the case??
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] papaettoui:
The main problem is with the brightness not the screen (colours etc). I need to have the phone to max brightness in order to be normal. Is there a reason for this?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] giocorrado:
I just got my unit yesterday evening and i can certify that the display its owful!!! Max brightness its below average , looks greysh , and white looks kind of washed grey. I am so disappointed . If i compare the display with mate 10 Pro and Pixel 2 XL i simply wanna cry!!! I hope HTC will do something ,not even a cheap phone has such a poor display brightness!!!
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] janny_buh:
Could you please check your display manufacturer? You can use 'AIDA64' or 'DevCheck Hardware and System Info' to find it out.

HTC may have used two different manufacturers for the display (for M10 they were Sharp and Tianma) with slightly different brightness

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[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galactus:
Something can't be right. Side by side with S8, the S8 is brighter and more saturated, but the U11+ is still bright. S8 in basic or amoled photo mode, colours look similar to U11+

HTC Megathread, someone with S8 and U11 and U11+ did a comparison. Brightness is good and the display is better than the U11.

Devcheck and AIDA64 do not show display manufacturer.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] janny_buh:
I've pre ordered my U11+ from HTC Club and I can't check myself, but Devcheck should show the panel manufacturer under 'Hardware' section, under 'Screen size' (at least, with HTC 10 it was possible).

I'm reading another Italian forum and I found some pictures with U11+ and Pixel 2XL in sunlight, HTC is less bright... Also U11 seems a bit brighter, but U11+ should have greeter viewing angles and a better black level.

I hope that this panel is at least not worse than my current Zuk Z1

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[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Nokiacrazi:
Cant agree with you. I keep autobrightness at 50% and have to turn it right down at nighttime. Thankfully the display gets quite dim compared to other devices. Outside during bright sun (rare in Manchester, granted) at 100% it's adequate in direct sunlight I'd say.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] petvas:
The display my U11+ has is bright. I don't see a difference to my U11 and outdoors is very bright. I don't understand how people have measured 300 nits only..Maybe there are two display manufacturers and I got lucky, or HTC is doing something else that boosts brightness. This is an HDR10 certified display, and it looks beautiful.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] themrmotivator:
Totally agree. No problems here. Loving this phone ?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] wilpang:
I also like the screen it might not be as bright as the U11 at default levels but the brightness is fine for whatever conditions. I'm not a fan of the Srgb even though it's meant to have more natural colours it makes the display look dull.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] petvas:
It is interesting that HTC chose to put a panel with lower max brightness than on the U11. I don't really understand why they did it, and also at the same time advertise this display to be the best they ever made. Anyway, having said that, I like the display. I also think that it is bright enough and I like the color reproduction in DC1 mode better than the U11. There is also almost no color shift when tilting the display and that is very good.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Scott_K_Nielsen:
I also think the screen is solid. Very good in most environments in terms of color, brightness and clarity. It is hopeless in direct sunlight though.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] bibet80:
Have you tried auto brightness in direct sunlight? I saw some review said the brightness using auto is higher than manual max brightness in outdoor. Not sure if it's bright enough under direct sunlight that you still can comfortably use the phone.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galactus:
My personal device:

Max manual brightness 370 nits

Max auto brightness 420 nits
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] bibet80:
Do you measure max auto brightness under direct sunlight?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galactus:
No, I have a second phone where I simply flashed the torch into the light sensor. This mimics what would happen in sunlight
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] vegetaleb:
So it's still clearly +100 nits less than U11
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Scott_K_Nielsen:
Have not tried that but shall do so. Appreciate the tip.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] bibet80:
Sure. Do share your experience after you try the auto brightness under direct sunlight.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galactus:
Indeed it is
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] yaninowe:
According to anandtech re: HDR10: apparently hardware is capable but software is catching up. I am hoping that once HDR is out brightness control will be greatly improved. Otherwise, what's the point of releasing a handset and claim a HDR10 support (we all know optimal 1000 nits brightness requirement).
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galactus:
None of the HDR10 phones released reach that requirement
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] yaninowe:
As far as I can tell other phones are just HDR ones and not HDR10. That's the key difference.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galactus:
They are HDR10

Sony XZ1, XZ Premium

LG V30

Galaxy Note 7 (Dead), Note 8, S8/+

HTC U11+

None can hit true 1000 nits brightness. The phones with OLED displays can do it for a small surface, not the entire screen. The corner of a Mate 10 Pro screen can reach 1300 nits, but the entire display only reaches 700 in boosted mode and 500+ in manual mode.

Optimal brightness for mobile HDR10 is 540 nits.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] yaninowe:
I stand corrected then! Thanks!

LG in the UK does not make any fanfare about HDR support on the V30. In fact, official specs do not mention HDR at all. G6 was indeed advertised as HDR capable device.

Long story short, if HTC with software update can increase the brightenss of U11+ I will be more than happy.

Not to mention that they are late already...
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] yaninowe:
btw, got my U11+ today. The screen is quite dim compared to U11 (which I used until now). Seriously considering returning this phone. It was super grey in London today yet I could barely see a thing on the u11+. This phone will be useless as soon as the Sun comes out. Can't see how the screen in its current setting can support HDR10.

I am just hoping that as Anandtech mentioned, hardware can support it and simply it needs the software to catch up.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Thunderbolt:
Any others opinion? It is so quiet here...

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[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galactus:
There isn't much to be said. The brightness is good but not great.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] vegetaleb:
I think I would get a U11 or wait for U12 then, can't live with a 2012 screen with my country's sun
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] phucmaster:
the brightness is enough, when you receive it, you need some days to make the glue go away
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
I also get the phone with the fear to face a super dim screen, but I can say that screen is bright enough for normal use, but if you are used to "super punchy brighty Samsung" screens, this is not the phone for you.

I usually don't put brightness too high, because my eyes suffer, but neither I see the screen completely dim. I recently started the process to return my Pixel 2 XL, and I can say that the full brightness in the U11+ is around the 80% brightness in the Pixel 2 XL.

These days I had a little of winter sun here (~13°C) and I tested the screen as well in direct sunlight, and with 50% was enough to see clearly and comfortably. I know I can't compare this with a full summer sun, but I think it will be more than enough for most people and for indoor usage, because being honest, no one stands more than 10 minutes with the phone in hand under a 45°C sun in summer.

:cowboy:
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] yaninowe:
Can we please stop talking about "glue" and display laminate? The days of iPhone 4s are over now and technology has moved on.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] vegetaleb:
Do you have a blue filter option with U11+?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
Yes, night mode, and you can configure the hours for it to start and to finish, as well as the intensity of the filter.

;)
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] idees:
At most reviews, i saw that they have the brightness nearly on max in order to look good.

That's the only issue preventing me of buying u11+.

Will be fixed this? I am really confused :(
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
Honestly, I think that if you like the device, you should get it.

Screen brightness is not a big issue, and yes, is not that bright as other phones, but still is perfectly usable. I always go with less than 50% brightness in all my phones, and so far, having the screen at 50% in the U11+ is perfect for me; I even did the test in direct sunlight, and I didn't have any problem looking at it. But if you want crazy brightness, this is not the phone for you.

I just returned my Pixel 2 XL and get this U11+, and I made also some tests regarding the screen. Full brightness in the U11+ was ~80% in the Pixel, so it was not that bad, and somehow makes sense, because I was running the Pixel with 35% brightness.

I returned the Pixel because I'm really demanding when I pay this amount of money for any device, and screen in the Pixel was really mediocre. Since the first time I turned on the U11+, I knew that this would be the perfect device for me, has a really good screen, perfect colors and calibration, besides the possibility to calibrate it for yourself.

I can only speak highly of this phone, 100% recommended.

;)
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] idees:
Beacause I'm sure this is the perfect device for me, that's why I discuss this issue.

I had u11 for 4 months and was a perfect phone.

Now I have a mate 10 pro , I'm not sure if u11+ is an upgrade, but I definitely prefer it over mate.

Thanks
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
I come from a Mate 9 Pro. Excellent display,vibrant colors, Super AMOLED screen, QHD and overall, the finest phone I have ever had.

When I changed to the Pixel 2 XL, it was big hit for me; each time I saw that Pixel screen, I only felt sadness and anger.

When I got the U11+, I felt so nice, because it was like having my Mate 9 Pro, but improved and with Android stock. The Mate 9 Pro and the U11+ are so similar, even in battery.

Regarding the Mate 10 Pro, I'm sure is an excellent device, and I was going to buy it, but I didn't like they lowered the resolution in the screen, no matter how good it is.

;)
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] idees:
I received yesterday my new U11+ and although max brightness is lower than mate 10 pro, it isn't annoying.

I have in at about 50-60% (automatic bright).

Waiting to test in outside at the sunlight.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
I'm glad you made the decision, I'm sure you won't regret it.

So far I haven't found any deal-breakers in this phone, and I'm really picky with phones, and the bright is the only "issue", but I'm sure it won't affect the majority of people using the phone.

:cyclops:
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] vegetaleb:
Can anyone compare the U11+ screen with HTC 10 or even M9 under sunlight?

We all know now that the U11 is brighter but what about the older HTC flagships compared to the U11+?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] petvas:
Today I have been using my U11 plus under direct sunlight and the screen was bright, bright enough. I don't know if there are two display types and I just got lucky, but my display is good. Of course the real test will be in the summer when the sun is stronger..
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] papaettoui:
Does anyone knows a third party app for always on display, where i will be able to use the fingerprint scanner to unlock the phone and not only the double tab? Thanks
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Tumpster:
Living in California with this phone, display is my only knock on this phone and it's small knock at best. I've had mine in direct sunlight without issue but when the sun is direct on you it can be difficult to read. All in all though, I feel like I have a Pixel 2 XL with this phone, my only other wishes would be for VoLTE and some ROMs.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Rayvan89:
It's summer here in South Africa and in direct sunlight the phone is still perfectly usable. My One M8 is quite a bit brighter, but the U11+ is fine in the sun. There is room for improvement, and the reflective screen doesn't help the situation in the bright sun, but unless you're literally in bright sun all day, every day, this shouldn't be an issue.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] lillypad_33:
I wonder if some people who are complaining are having issues with the ambient light sensor? My screen is perfectly fine in the sun. I usually run about 60% brightness.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] verynuclear:
Took me one week now to watch all reviews and opinions about this beautiful device and unfortunately i decided to not go with it because the screen brightness issue is a real breaker at least for me. Even indoor, high brightness is needed when watching some videos or playing games etc. Lame HTC, always comes with some stupid ideas :(

No wonder why there is no development for this device.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] petvas:
You are missing on a great device. The screen is beautiful and bright enough for all use cases. Even under direct sunlight it is perfectly readable
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] verynuclear:
I'm a huge fan of htc, I'm scare this time to drop money and then regret my decision when i can't return it. Idk really, very tough decision.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] petvas:
Why wouldn't it be possible to return it?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] bibet80:
I live in Singapore which is a tropical country where sunshine is all year round. I can tell you that there is no problem using the phone under direct sunlight. I'm not sure if it's because HTC improves the brightness on the new batch, but I don't experience any screen brightness issues that many reviews have mentioned. My setting is around 50% with adaptive brightness always on.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] verynuclear:
It isn't easy here to deal with retailers specially when the device isn't available anywhere except at their shops.

I'll ask about if there are some new models with different display or not before reconsidering and will try to test the device in real time. The problem is that i can't put my hand on a unit because units available in shops are just mock ones for display only, new ones are sealed in boxes and retailers refuse to open it for checking ?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] petvas:
Actually I had two U11+. The first one bought from HTC last December, and the second one bought a couple of days ago from Amazon. I compared the displays and I think they are about the same, maybe the newer one has a little bit brighter display, but the difference is negligible.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] yaninowe:
well, I have used U11+ today in overcast conditions and guess what: I could not see a thing on the display. As soon as I got on the train - display was fine.

My unit is from the early batch (December) and one thing is clear to me: this display is not a flagship grade. In fact, I have not seen such dim display in years - it is just bad.

If you plan to use the phone outdoors you may want to look elsewhere.

For the record: I like everything else - it's just the display that is just poor. I also own Nokia 5 - tried it today too - no issues whatsoever. Display was perfectly fine and clear.

So to sum up: there is either a display lottery: different batches/different manufacturers or the display is dim "by design" to improve power consumption figures for example.

One thing to note, Aida64 reports the display as SLCD5 while "officially" it is called SLCD6. Coincidence?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] bibet80:
Did you enable adaptive brightness?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] yaninowe:
Always. On by default.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] jaysonline:
With adaptive brightness on and around 50% setting it works well for me. I come from Oneplus One and this has a tone comparatively on the warmer side. I noticed that after 60% brightness the display suddenly becomes vivid and looks great when watching videos. Not sure what's going on, is there any battery saving algorithm going on or what.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Gi3M0:
What you mean with adaptive brightness?Is that auto brightness or where can i find this setting?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] yaninowe:
yeah, there are actually two settings:

1. in the battery settings

2. in the display settings

both do exactly the same thing.

on slightly different note, just started thinking that maybe brightness is intentionally lowered because of.... Pixel 2xl
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Gi3M0:
So both of this settings must be on?Is t that the same?

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[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Chronosus:
I compared U11+ to my old trusty M8 and it seemed to me that on max setting M8 is a little brighter. That said, just used it in the middle of a Mediterranean island in direct sunlight on a very clear day and had no trouble whatsoever seeing what's on the screen .
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] liav12:
Not possible to "overwrite" the settings to let the brightness go higher?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Electro58:
screen brightness

Are you sharing photos for screen brightness?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] deechte:
Did anyone with a dim screen actually send in their unit for repair/replacement? Did that help?

I find my device practically impossible to read in the sun. When I'm under an umbrella, so in the shade, but in a sunny Mediterranean surrounding, it's also hard and uncomfortable to read text.

There's no problem indoors.

So I'm wondering if they'll replace the screen when one complains, and if that helps.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Abidjutt:
Htc u11+

I have a question for you guys I think it to try from Pakistan but I don't know which is best for me hk or tw or any other variant like Chinese my question is

Does Chinese HTC u11+ upgrade able to 9.0 pie
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] dimitrakhs1:
I live in Greece(very bright sunlight).If i turn battery saving off and brightness to the max,i can see.So it's all good
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the HTC U11+'s display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the HTC U11+'s display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] PiggyReddy:
My HTC U11' so display is reddish. Adjusting the color temperature only minimizes it. Anyone else facing the same issue?
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] Reuben_skelz92:
Every HTC phone I've had. 3 HTC 10 and 4 HTC u11 all bad pink tints. Had to send every one back. Was hoping they had sorted it with the LCD 6
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] PiggyReddy:
I had HTC One M8. It's display was perfect.

I asked for a replacement. The customer care guy said they haven't received any complaints regarding display so far. Mine's the first. I don't know if people don't notice it or if I got a bad one. I hope the replacement phone will have a better display since you can't return phones here in India; only replacements.
[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] bloodydawn:
Only 2 gigantic threads concerning HTC u11+ screen:

https://m.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=566&t=5307215&p=1

https://community.htc.com/tw/chat.php?mod=viewthread&tid=84085&extra=page=1&page=1

Mine have slighty yellow screen at bottom.

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[HTC U11+ Real Life Review] janny_buh:
I've just received my U11+ from HTC club (Italy) and I've the same exact problem.

The brightness is a bit low and the bottom part (1/4) of the display is yellowish.

Does this problem affect all units? If it's true, I'll go for a refund

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