yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Biggiemac28:
Hey if anyone could help I would appreciate it

I updated my phone via OTA oreo and it somehow got stuck on the powered by Android load screen with no futher actions and I have tried a matter of all button combinations and only have been able to get to fast boot loader but when I try recovery it's gets back to square one of powered by Android. Now I didn't monkey with the bootloader or anything it's still locked so I can't flash anything but my pc does notice my phone as a fastboot device but it won't sideload due to lockstate. So coming here to listen to some experience and bounce ideas because I don't want to give up on this phone.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
Can you get to recovery, and adb sideload the ota?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Biggiemac28:
Wish I could

I tried to jump into recovery and back to the powered by Android I go.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
Hmm, wonder if boot.img is hosed, that sucks.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Biggiemac28:
If it is hosed is there even a way

At least the phone can get into fastboot mode I just don't have the experience to fix boot.img and essential is essentially useless on their end lol
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
with the bootloader, there doesnt appear to be anything you can do

you cant switch slots

some how need to get to the other side. what happens if you hold down power and vol down/up repeatedly and just have keep rebooting, it might trigger a fail and boot the other slot? dunno, im outta good ideas at this point.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
That i feel is the best sequence, you tested everything before throwing away the key (ill never mock a person who at least does a minimal setup to test everything)(or wipes, cleanliness is godliness). Good man. I don't want you or anyone to think that its against the rules or whatever to relock stuff. Its just a terrible feeling when i read someone did all this, didn't test their boot condition, and now have a fancy paperweight over, what would you say, an half hours worth of work grand total? When messing with something that can clearly doom your device, i would take all the care and precaution possible.

And granted, there are people in this thread who have bootloader unlocked/critical unlocked and QFIL'd their phone as well. Those things also happen in the game of flashing firmware back and forth. I myself, always test my environments before i get started flashing everything, just to be sure the communication/cable is good. I have flashed this device more than most on this forum, never once had a hiccup.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
[MENTION=3053466]RandomPooka[/MENTION] I added the essential adb/fastboot and cleaned up OP a little bit, decided ill leave the links. Someone might need them someday.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Thomas Cloutier:
I'm still confused on what I'm doing wrong. Every time I try to run the flashall.bat file, it won't recognise my phone, and it flash anything over to my phone
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
Open a cmd prompt where your adb and fastboot are, type in adb -version

Then type fastboot --version

That's minus minus version

Screen shot results
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] easyrider77:
so I'm curious now, I was reading a thread that said don't re-lock the bootloader. They were referring to mainly with custom, and I get that, which I've done root long enough I know better, but I have a question on stock+root.

If/When I get this phone, I will of corse root it, and am curious, if I root via unlocking the bootloader and magisk, will relocking the bootloader (which of corse will wipe the phone again) will that brick the phone or mess up the phone in any way?

I ask because right now I currently own a Moto g5s Plus, and cannot lock my bootloader at all....why you may ask, well, with this phone (not sure about other phones) but with this phone, unless, and ONLY until you have the "latest" firmware via zip or otherwise, you CANnot lock the bootloader at all, it just will not lock (at least on my xt1806 US variant). The latest stock zip for this phone that is currently out is 1 to 2 versions older than the latest one and there is no newer, and I accepted the OTA for a newer version, which means the zip I am using is now an "older" version of my firmware, and therefor the phone see's a newer on the phone and cannot backwards flash and still lock the bootloader.

Now don't confuse this with me saying you can't "flash" any firmware, because you can, and it works just fine, only difference is you cannot lock the bootloader, for cases you want to sell it, or send it in for reapairs etc., you can still flash whatever your little heart desires on the phone.

So that given, I am close to having enough money saved up for this essential phone, but I want to make sure I can re-lock the bootloader if it's needed. So if I root, with stock only, (no custom at all) and say take an OTA, will I still be able to lock the bootloader at that point and time after the ota, if there is no current up to date zip of the stock firmare?

I hope that all made sense, I have a hard time explaining some times what I am meaning, so I hope it was clear enough to understand.

IF in the case as like this moto g5s plus, you cannot lock the bootloader until you have the latest stock firmware, I may refrain from buying an essential phone.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
nope, you can lock the bootloader whenever you want. Its generally a PSA to lock your bootloader last, when you have verified everything works as it should.

Taking OTA with magisk is a bit more involved, but not impossible. I just leave it unlocked altogether.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] easyrider77:
Right, and I normally do leave it unlocked, except in the case I am selling it or sending in for repairs. Aside from that I never touch it. It's good to hear I can re-lock it then. In that case I'll buy it. I am SO sick of lenovo promises that seem to never come thru Ie: oreo hasn't hit STILL, and the moto phones are in NO way what they used to be hardware wise. In fact the new moto g6 they released, has 1/2 the cpu of the g5s plus, I'm still scratching my head on that one.

Ok so now, I have one last question. I think I have the PIE root figured out, since they don't yet have a twrp for pie (yet).

To get root simply do the following:

Files needed: twrp img file and stock recovery file

Flash procedure:

-boot to fastboot

-fastboot boot twrp.img

-reboot recovery

-when in recover flash magisk zip file

-flash stock recovery file

-reboot system

From this point it will be like normal, you update magisk manager as needed, but twrp will no longer be on the phone but root acess will be.

I hope I have that correct ??

Also will the above process affect antying if I decide to flash stock rom, and re-lock the bootloader again?

As I said I will probably 99% of the time never even relock it, if at all, I just want to be prepared "in case" it ever needs to happen.

BTW aer0zer0 thanks for the quick reply, I didn't even get a chance to check my email and you already replied lol, was a very nice surprise.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
So this is a/b style. There is no recovery partition, recovery is in the boot.img

You will need a copy of your stock boot.img, because you have to replace twrp.

So

1. Disable all pins/passwords/thumbprints , and make sure you have working adb/fastboot environment prior

2 download twrp, magisk, and stock boot.img,

3. Go-to bootloader, and flash twrp

fastboot flash boot whatevertwrpiscalled.img

4. Vol up to reboot to recovery

5. Once in recovery, copy magisk and stock boot.img over to phone.

6. In twrp, flash the stock boot.img

7. Then mount system read only in twep

8. Flash magisk.

9. Reboot, should be g2g.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] easyrider77:
Awesome, easy enough, thank you so much for the help.

I am not sure where I got these, it was from one of the xda threads, but I have 2 files and of corse magisk, which I already have.

-PIE-9.0-091.img (stock recovery img file if I recall right)

and

-twrp-mata_11.img (twrp recovery img file)

So those 2 img files and magisk should be all I need, and just follow the steps, unless of corse anyone knows of newer files, which I can download and save before I get the phone.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
Yeah,looks good
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] easyrider77:
Great, thanks again for the help.

I look forward to this phone. I actually have been keeping an eye on this phone since release. While the initial realease was a disaster, the company has done some amazing work turning this phone around in what I would call a very impressive manner. It was near dead on release, and I myself, among others thought it was a sinking ship.

I'm really impressed at the fast efficient way they have done on this phone, and even though they dropped release of this phone, they have kept true to their word and delivered. That says a LOT about a company.

It's a shame they dropped any other phones, I wish truly that I had finances to give to support this company, I'd gladly do it.

Andy Rubin reminds me a lot of Steve Jobs for some reason. He seems to be, very innovative and a real out of the box thinker like Steve Jobs was, which is a rare thing in today's world. So sick of everyone just copying ideas, and never taking a chance to try new things. I commend Andy for even taking a chance in the phone market today.

I just hope the company can get back to making phones again
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] ohitspat:
Have stock rom 8.1, rooted on April Security Patch. Looking to update to latest security patch while maintaining root and slightly confused at the process. Can anyone be kind enough to give me a step by step process on how to do so?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] nummer:
Found an app that patches TWRP to allow internal storage in backups. I don't want to do it for myself, but I want to see if it works.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BBl-D9XEEpxNM8Yzc85lg_h1wx3tUgs-/view?usp=drivesdk
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Natakranta:
Hi, I'm on my way home to unpack my PH-1, reading forums since I ordered it last Monday.

So I have no live experience with Essential yet, but I have some with A/B partitions devices (Pixel 2, Mi A1, Pixel 1 and Pixel 1XL).

I use simpler procedure to update my wife's Pixel 2 every month with Google images and reroot it with Magisk. Since I do it once a month only I don't need permanentny installed TWRP to boot image. I just plug the phone to PC (adb debugging enabled, bootloader unlocked since day 1)

adb reboot bootloader

On PC i run flash-all-w.bat (yes, Windows...), it flashes phone with current factory image I downloaded but not erasing user data ("-w" removed by me from bat file). Let it boot. Let it settle a minute. Then again:

adb reboot bootloader

When it boots bootloader:

fastboot boot twrp.img

Then it boots TWRP without actually flashing it to boot partition. Not sure how with Essential, but on Pixel twrp decrypts internal storage after I draw the lock screen pattern.

In booted twrp I flash Magisk.zip and Vanced YouTube installer zip.

Reboot system and done.

New factory image with Magisk on top of it.

I'm eager to experiment in the evening with my new phone.

And welcome everybody!
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
We don't have fastboot boot....... You need to flash it
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Natakranta:
Wow, that's unexpected hit :eek:

Is it the Essential fastboot version not providing the boot command?

Or is it the phones bootloader not allowing fastboot boot to be performed even when unlocked?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
Essential didn't provide it, we've asked at the ama's repeatedly....nada
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] TT_Vert:
Guys quick question. I see in the stock OTA update and have downloaded both it and the bootloader version. I am having an issue when trying to install the zip in TWRP. It just says "Invalid zip file format". I have redownloaded it but same deal. Anyone have any input?

Thanks much

Dave
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
It's not meant to be flashed in twrp, they are both meant to be fast boot flashed, one is comprised of their fastboot images, the other is the payload.bin from the OTA, decrypted, and setup like fastboot images.

If you wanna flash in twrp, just dl straight from essential themselves.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] TT_Vert:
Thanks, I found I was just not choosing the img flash option in twrp. Doing so allowed it to work. I've done it both ways successfully now. Now I Just need to find out how to get ok google to work in anything but stock ROM.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] RandomPooka:
It doesn't. That's been a long standing bug.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] TT_Vert:
Yeah so I'm finding. I did a bunch of testing and research and I didn't find much here. I did find one post speaking about it in 2017 but i figured (Hoped) things had changed. Oh well, i'll make do.

Dave
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] RandomPooka:
Is honestly a small tradeoff in my opinion. I almost never use Google assistant, and never with voice activation. If I hadn't truly enjoyed the Pie official release, I'd still be happily using AOSiP as my daily driver.

The only complaint I had with it was that I had to reset my voicemail number to my phone number after every reboot, because it defaults to like *86 or something. Sprint uses the customer's own number for voicemail. There's not full support for updating carrier info/data with Sprint either, but that's really not a deal breaker for me.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] TT_Vert:
i use google assistant daily. To turn on lights, my vacuum, modify the HVAC, etc. I've never had an issue w/ google voice and my s8+

Dave
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] RandomPooka:
I've never had an issue with Google Voice and your S8+ either, but this isn't your S8+, so all your experience with that particular phone really doesn't matter much in this situation.

I own zero things that can be controlled by a Google Home/Alexa/whatever, so home automation isn't in my usage scenario. I suppose if I did, and had them set up to run with voice commands, I'd also be more bothered by the Ok Google not working . BTW, Alexa doesn't work on source built ROMs for this phone either. I checked.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] TT_Vert:
I was referring to the S8+ and voicemail issues. I believe *73 and *74 are what you want to use now for forwarding and no answer forwarding.

Dave
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] RandomPooka:
Not trying to forward. I have to dial my phone number to access voicemail, not the default *86. I can easily change it in the dialer, but it doesn't stick through a reboot.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] TT_Vert:
Ahh ok. Have you considering another VM method? I use google voice and it allows me to see my messages to text and also everything is in a nice GUI. I can check VMs anywhere I have internet even if I don't have my phone w/ me. It's handy when I'm overseas in an area w/ little to no reception.

Dave
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] RandomPooka:
I don't get enough voicemail to make it worth it. It's more of just a minor annoyance. Was trying to find a way to have Tasker set it on not, but that wasn't really working so well. Easier to just switch it on reboot and forget about it after that
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] ranasrule:
Hello. Essential Phone newbie here. I got my EP with 7.1 out of the box and updated it to Pie 9.0 via OTA. Im rooted via magisk and have neutrino kernel installed.

Now I want to go to stock 8.1. How would I go about doing this?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] sash11:
Flash back to stock fastboot image of Oreo 8.1. This will wipe internal storage.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] ranasrule:
what about using OPM1.180104.267_BACK_TO_STOCK_IMAGES.zip and installing via the flash-all-WIPE.bat file ?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] sash11:
That should also do the job.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] ranasrule:
:good:
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] chanh2018:
I checked in Essential site, this version is for Sprint.

Can we use it for any other carrier like AT&T?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] NLBeev:
https://www.xda-developers.com/tipatch-patches-twrp-full-data-backups/

Have read about a pathed twrp image for the PH-1.

But can't find a link to: twrp-mata-tipatched.img or

twrp-mata-11tipatched.ing or something like that.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] jstiel:
I think a Magisk module borked my Google Play in my rooted PH-1. Can this be used to "dirty flash" over the same stock Pie ROM by deleting the boot image so I can keep root and my data?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] NLBeev:
I've reflashed this to sync slot a and slot b.

I just edited .bat and .sh to flash to a single slot.

To remove modules from M. look in following thread.

https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/magisk-v16-3-magisk-modules-remover-t3776718
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] ajolly:
Is there a way to downgrade from 9 to 8 without wiping user data? If I try I get "Can't load android system your data may be corrupt"
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] NLBeev:
Did you use of the Oreo back-to-stock images available in the OP?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] sash11:
Have you tried booting into the other slot? It probably still has 8.1 on it.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] rignfool:
If you successfully booted 9... And try to flip back to 8.1 without a wipe... You'll more than likely not boot...

I read somewhere a long time ago that it was database mismatches that won't let it work... But who knows at this point...

It's a crap shoot that you usually lose
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] ajolly:
Tried both the flashboot images direct from essential and this thread. Unfortunately somewhere in the mix even my pie install seems borked (reflash pie, but notifications wont show, but are recieved, wifi doesnt work, etc). I'm going to unlock critical and do a full wipe.

While I'm at it - this thread lists OPM1.180104.267 as the most recent 8.1 release, but I thought that was for Sprint only and otherwise use .234?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
They are all the same. No special firmware for Sprint.

Go scorched Earth with Oreo, the ota to pie
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] onema:
Will Sept security update be posted? Thanks
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] RandomPooka:
Go to the Essential web site and download it right now from the source.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
Im in the middle of the ADK, 1 bar 3g, I won't be able to do it till this weekend. [MENTION=3053466]RandomPooka[/MENTION] is right. Use the fastboot images from essential
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] onema:
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

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Okay, thank for the info!
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] mobileman88:
I used that... upgraded and can't get touch to work. Had to do the following :

BTS to Aug

OTA to Sep

Root again
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] techlogik:
Error...deleted.

Thx
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] jimbo77:
A little help. I was trying to downgrade from PIE to OREO but i get the following errors:

C:\Users\******\Disco C\Desktop\Downloads\OPM1.180104.166_BACK_TO_STOCK_IMAGES>fastboot -w

wiping userdata...

Erase successful, but not automatically formatting.

Can't determine partition type.

FAILED (remote: unknown command)

erasing 'userdata'...

FAILED (remote: unknown command)

finished. total time: 0.004s

C:\Users\*****\Disco C\Desktop\Downloads\OPM1.180104.166_BACK_TO_STOCK_IMAGES>fastboot flash abl_a abl

target didn't report max-download-size

sending 'abl_a' (780 KB)...

FAILED (remote: unknown command)

finished. total time: 0.004s

C:\Users\******\Disco C\Desktop\Downloads\OPM1.180104.166_BACK_TO_STOCK_IMAGES>fastboot flash abl_b abl

target reported max download size of 536870912 bytes

sending 'abl_b' (780 KB)...

FAILED (remote: unknown command)

finished. total time: 0.005s

C:\Users\*****\Disco C\Desktop\Downloads\OPM1.180104.166_BACK_TO_STOCK_IMAGES>fastboot flash bluetooth_a bluetooth

target didn't report max-download-size

sending 'bluetooth_a' (396 KB)...

it's stuck there, it doesn't continue. If I try the Pie version it had before it also gets stuck. Did i just brick my phone? :(

PS: I've tried different cables, usb ports, rebooting both the PC and phone and no success.

EDIT: Rebooted the phone and data is still there, booted fine. Should I try with another PC? Thoughts?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] mobileman88:
Did you unlock critical?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] jimbo77:
THank you! I did try to run the command before and I get the message saying it's already unlocked

FAILED (remote: Device already : unlocked!)

I did a manual factory reset of the phone, it boots fine. I was able to re setup everything. I just can't downgrade using the BTS files. Even trying to flash the same build i'm on ends in errors

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Seems to be working fine now. Had to use my NOTE 8 USB Cable to get it going... What a nightmare but it's all good now, flashing Oreo with no errors
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] mrcooter:
Just to clarify, you tried the unlock_critical command? This device has a regular unlock like all my previous phone's and then a secondary critical partition unlock. Just checking as it's worked fine for me going back and forth.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
Lol, I have a cable I treat as the Golden child for that very reason.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
september BTS is up
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] indian84:
Stupid question.

Will touch work in TWRP if I clean flash this September BTS?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
Nope, our twrp needs to be updated, plain and simple, or pre-patch your own boot.img
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
Updated September link to include a patched boot.img and twrp11 (even though I know it doesn't work)
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
Added september novendor images
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] indian84:
Thanks.

So I can downgrade to August update using BTS right?
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] aer0zer0:
The bts has a patched boot in it. If you have a usb otg cable, you can plug in a mouse and have twrp work.
[Essential Phone ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] NLBeev:
Maybe for your bts.

Did trial/error with the September boot.img patched by the twrp 3.2.3.0 installer.

Patched it again with Magisk manager.

After this second patch restored the image with EX-Kernel manager to the active slot.

Root and twrp are both working. Also after changing stockboot with EX version 3.08.