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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] bigboyhf:
I have the Blue Ant now for about a week. I have no problem with the ear hook, but the speaker bud can sometimes cause pressure on my ear. I have learned though that the ear hook can be pushed down which effectively raises the speaker bud up and relieves most of the pressure on my ear. When I make or receive a call, I push it down a bit for better listening and then back up when done. Very comfortable this way.

I had a Motorola h700 paired to my phone before I got the Blue Ant and this caused malfunctioning of the unit. I had trouble getting it to trigger voice commands and answering calls. It was very frustrating, but then I deleted the Motorola from my phone and it works perfectly now. I think that the Blue Ant will scroll through devices when there are more than one paired rather than make or answer calls... Anyways, all fixed now and I generally have to lower call volume as it is quite loud. I get no more complaints from the other party online about noise or wind! The Motorola actually amplified ambient noise and was virtually useless unless in a totally quiet room.

I tried on a friends Jawbone and it was not as comfortable as the Blue Ant. I don't like ear gels stuck into my ear canal as this is uncomfortable to me. It was also heavier and floppier. The controls are better on the Blue Ant. My only complaint is like others have mentioned is that they should have reversed the function of setting max noise cancellation and ending the call. I have yet to recharge it, but I guess it will be a good idea to do so soon!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] p51d007:
I've got both headsets. Had the jawbone for almost a year, then it died.

While waiting for Aliph to email me, I bought a Z9. Fit was superior, but

everyone said I was muffled. Incoming sound was a LOT louder.

Then I figured out what the problem was. I'm LEFTHANDED. I wear the earpiece

on the left ear. If you look at the Z9, the microphones are on the bottom, toward your mouth, IF worn on the right side. On the left side, they are on

TOP, AWAY from your mouth. When I switched it, everyone said I was clearer.

But, I couldn't adjust to having it on the right side. I got my replacement from

at&t and went back to the jawbone. The z9, nothing wrong with it at all, other

than the "righthanded" nature of it's microphones. Plus, in every test I did,

everyone said the jawbone had better noise cancellation. I did sort of a "blind"

test. I never told my victim (test subjects) which headset I was using.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] RemE:
I'm right handed, but "left eared" and see the exact performance that you describe. There is no perfect headset, I find that I now use both, Jawbone in the car, Blueant outside in the wind.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] rotohammer:
Warning: The following is not about a Blue Ant Z9 nor Aliph Jawbone.

I've got a dozen headsets. The Sennheiser VMX-100 is the most comfortable unit I've ever used. I've worn it for 18hrs in a day. I wear it to bed streaming audio. No static, no complaints from the other end of the call, no one can believe I'm on a bluetooth headset.

Nothing goes into your ear, and its slim and adjustable. My wife could never get one to stay on her small ears, but the VMX-100 fits perfect too. It has a micro-usb charge connector like Jabra also.

The VMX-100 also has dual mics.

I've mixed and matched parts from all my headsets trying to build the ultimate in style and function. I've even molded my own ear insert pieces. I know what you guys are going through. I'm glad all that is behind me now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] kcchen:
Nice... glad to hear you like your VMX-100, but its neither a Blue Ant Z9 or Aliph Jawbone...

;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] flipside101:
Hi all i have the blueant and love teh size however i fint the fit in my ear is poor, is anyone aware of any hacks/replacment caps that would improve things ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Optimistisch_nl:
I used the cap from my Jabra BT 8040.

The Jabra cap is not big enough to put it straight on the BluAnt

You have to remove the cap from the BluAnt en use some tape (to make make the base bigger) in order to fit the Jabra cap.

HTH
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] bigboyhf:
The ear bud on my Blue ant fell off. It now fits much more comfortably in my ear and is very stable even without the bud! I was going to send it in to Avery Sound for them to make a custom ear piece, but I might just wait, since it is so comfy with nothing. The only concern is that there is no protection to the little rubber covering on the speaker tube... So far there doesn't seem to be any problem at all and I can wear it almost indefinitely. The ear bud on the other hand caused some pressure and was a bit uncomfortable after a while.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] RemE:
Word of warning on the Avery ear pieces. They are comfortable for sure, but, I find that they seal too well, the Jawbone is now too loud, will have to stuff some cotton in it as directed. Also, when not talking, my ear is plugged like deaf in one ear. I find myself back to the Jabra eargel on the Jawbone. I think Avery needs to add a second port to outside air to allow for a little more balanced feel, I'll be calling them..

I may try the other Jabra eargel on the Blueant.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] flipside101:
Cheers for the advice evryone but im seriously thinking about selling the blueant as even in slightly windy places (and im in the middle of London here) people cant hear me . Ill try playing with the bluetooth settings but its getting annoying is teh jawbone any better ?

The Averysound thing looks good aside from the fact im UK based so this adds some on the shipping cost :), this looks liek a possible stopgap though has anyone heard anything about podfitkit ? http://www.podfitkit.com/?gclid=CODx0uGZ55ICFQ6VMAodz28ixg
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Optimistisch_nl:
Thx for the link... just ordered them... will report experiences...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] flipside101:
Oh cool any info greatfully recieved :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] mario23:
Great thread guys...thanks.

I really like the Jawbone and might pick one up tomorrow so this info was very useful.

I like the upgradability of the Blueant though...very cool idea (makes me wonder)

I'll check out the Jawbone in person tomorrow and try to make a decision.

Thanks again...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] bigboyhf:
Just checking in here... I did order the Podfitkit a while back. After two tries (there is enough for maybe 4 or 5) I got a very comfortable fit on the Z9. Been using it for quite some time and it is very durable. I do have to pull it out a bit when charging, but it does so easily and can be pushed back on without any damage. I do recommend it! Trick is to use just a little bit of material and not try fill your whole ear up. There are pictures on their web site and it is very easy to do...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] p51d007:
Personally, I like the sealed fit of the Avery ear piece.

On a lighter note...I tell WOMEN who say everything goes in one ear and out the other, that this ear piece acts as a trap, what goes in one ear DOESN'T go out the other :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] mario23:
Well I broke down and got the new Jawbone 2.

I played with it all day today and love it. The sound quality is excellent of course and the noise cancellation is phenomenal.

The new version uses a magnetic type connector kind of like the Mac's.

It is also a USB cord and a USB/AC adapter is included along with all the other goodies. So now you can charge via USB as well.

It is very comfortable. I wore it most of the day without a problem. After hearing all the rave reviews on the Jabra ear gels, I ordered some of them too...for 5 bucks...why not :)

I would definitely recommend this to anyone...well worth the price!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] notthatcreative:
Jawbone 2

After breaking my two year old JX-10, I went to purchase another unit. I happened to see the Jawbone 2 and made the switch. The unit is very light, battery life is longer than my JX-10 (which was very good) and sound quality is excellent. I've asked everyone i spoke with today about the sound quality and everyone stated is was better than my old unit. The downside is I use MSVC and I could tap the button easliy to initiate the beep.The Jawbone 2 is not as convienient. The JX-10 is a great unit, but I am glad i made the switch.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] smittyofdhs:
you can fix the MSVC with updated EXE files. Someone here ont hese forums was able to get it to work. I've used the updated MSVC with my Tilt and can activate VC from a the headset. I wish I had the link for you. If you can't find it, PM me with your email address and I'll send the file that I used.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] mario23:
By the way, on the new Jawbone, you have more volume levels and the louder setting is definitely loud enough. So apparently no more low volume issues. Also, Noise Assasin stays activated even when cycling through the volume levels. My understanding is that on the original Jawbone, cycling the volume would turn off Noise Assasin?

Anyways, just wanted to share. This just make me even more pleased with my purchase. Awesome unit!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] cib911:
Just got my Jawbone 2 today for my birthday. I must say that this headset is much better than the first Jawbone. Paired easily, and the volume settings are much better. It is by far the most comfortable headset I have used, have had it on all day. It is so light you don't even know it is there. I don't like the price, AT&T screws you for full retail. If anyone wants to buy my old Jawbone let me know, I will make you a good deal.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] smuook:
This one is a little bulkier but I heard the reception is real good...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] mario23:
I got the Jabra ear gels in the mail today and I have to say....I like the Jawbone earbud better. Better fit and difference that I could tell in sound.

I wonder if any of you guys that have the original Jawbone as well as the new one could offer a comparison. I have read that the original Jawbone had some low volume issues. This one doesn't seem to have that problem so I wonder if you would agree with that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] digi0123:
noise assassin........it's all I'm saying.... jawbone 2.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] p51d007:
I agree with the volume issue. I've got both of them. I bought the original JB

when it came out, it died about 12 months later, at&t replaced it no questions asked. The replacement also had low volume. Paired with my tilt, I had to keep the JB on full volume & the tilt on max to achieve acceptable sound level.

With the new JB2, I can keep my tile between 1/4 to 1/2 volume and it is plenty loud.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] RemE:
I had to pick up a JB2 today and compare with my trusted co-worker on sound quality vs. the JB1. On my end volume is much better as noted. Size and comfort is very nice, the new button functions took a little getting used to, I ended the call when trying to adjust volume because the rear button operates more by pushing the back of the earpiece forward. Indoors the sound was excellent.

On their end, outside wind noise is not much improved, bummer. Very odd is that if I was talking and looked to the sky, my voice would cut out. The earpiece "magic" button that rests on your cheek may be losing contact when looking up? In any case it would consistantly do it. I still need to go thru the extensive collection of earbuds and ear loops to optimize the fit.

There are two small mic holes that point up when the piece is worn on the right ear, I wear mine on the left so they point down. The Blueant Z9 has the same 2 holes but on the opposite side but I don't know that it makes any difference.

Overall it's a quality earpiece, just a little disapointed in the wind performance, they should have concentrated on fixing that main complaint. The other issues friends complained about was the charging and the new magnetic connector seems very much improved.

Edit - Tried Jabra Ear Gels, not a good fit with JB2 like it worked with JB1. I ended up using the smallest supplied earbud and loop for a good fit. So far it's very light and no pressure points developing like I experienced with the Blueant Z9.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] mario23:
I had the same problem initially. It was just the fit.As soon as changed the earbud, the fit was much better and the sensor didn't lose contact anymore. Hopefully that's all it is for you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] twinpeaks:
I can't believe there's no MUTE button on the Jawbone 2

!!!!!!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] RemE:
No mute? missed that. I'm finding that the call end button is really badly set up because should you just brush the earpiece, goodbye caller! I really preferred the small but dedicated button on the JB1. They should consider reversing the volume and call button functions, I've lost over 6 calls already and I've been trying to be careful.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] twinpeaks:
I'm going against the grain. I'm quickly learning to hate the Jawbone 2. The buttons are awful , there's no mute button, I don't have enough tactile feedback to know if I've pressed it or not...I think this piece of junk is going back to the store. I have not tried the BlueAnt yet but I do like my Motorolla H12 better than this poorly designed fashion accessory known as the Jawbone 2. The Jawbone 2 is nicely paired with a Blackberry "oh I'm cool I have a Blackberry see me I am important" but not for those of us who like precision and basic functionality out of a Windows mobile device, it's best left on the shelf for those who own Blackberries.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] RemE:
Not against the grain at all, I'm leaning on returning mine as well;

The fit is "good" but turn my head just right and it comes loose.

The buttons are pissing me off too.

The voice dial "feedback prompt" is too soft compared to others.

I'm more happy with JB1 for car and indoors and Blueant for outdoors, bikes, wind...

I wonder how the best Moto is, but I've had so many crappy ones from them that I took time off from Moto...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] FLiPinoy9oNe6:
My volume on the JB2 sucks. All my co workers got their JB2 on thier BB curves and volume is awesome. Tried thier HS on my Tilt and volume is way low. Thought it was my headset but when syncing mine with their phones the volume is great. Ive always had a volume issue on my tilt when using BT headsets. Other than replacing the phone does anyone have any suggestions or fixes for my Tilts poor volume quality on BT headsets? TIA
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] RemE:
Sorry, no joy on the volume. The TyTN II and tilt have lower BT volume than previous models, noted on day one and ignored by HTC. Many of us have changed earbuds and done other tricks to improve volume but it's more an HTC problem than anything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] twinpeaks:
When you say "the Blueant" is that z9i or z9 ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] RemE:
That was for the Z9, looking at the Z9i it seems that they addressed the comfort issues that we had to work around with jabra rubber ear loops. I'm returning the JB2 for sure and going to try the 9i next.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] kcchen:
Not giving up on the new jawbone yet....

But I have to agree the main button is sensitive, the earhooks are tough to get a comfortable fit... but not impossible.

On the positive side, it seems to do well in the wind (convertible @ 70)... still instinctively cup my hands over the headset sometimes. And I don't have a problem with the sound or no-mute button.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] awinters:
just got a jawbone off ebay for 60 bills had to send it to replace though, jawbone sells the black for 99 bills at jawbone site.. also got a blueant z9 today off ebay for 54 bills. looks very cool. im charging and will report...ebay is the way to go, saves lots of dough...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] bigboyhf:
One thing I have noticed with the Z9 is that it doesn't do that well in the wind. Also, I have to make sure that I turn the Z9 on before I turn BT on my Tilt. If it is already on, the Tilt will not pair to it... Not sure if I am doing something wrong, but so far that is my experience. It doesn't happen with my Motorola headset.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] edbutler:
I went with the Z9 Blueant

I tried both and found the Z9 the best. The Jawbone was a tad more comfortable to wear but the Z9 was smaller and once you get used to it, it was fine. The noise canceling is about the same on both , I do like the upgradeable firmware with the Z9 which I have upgraded twice now since I got it. Also the volume button is easer to use on the Z9 it has an up and down button. The Jawbone has only one button and when you cycle through the 5 volume stages it goes back to the lowest setting which can be a pain. I also like the Z9 ability to turn the led light off so when your in a dark area and you don't want the led flashing you can turn it off and still use the headset. Now the price is what was the deciding factor for me, I paid $68.00 that was shipping included the Jawbone was about $130.00. I used the Jawbone for 2 hours and then bought the Z9 and I haven't regretted it. Hope this helps.

Ed...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] digitaly:
I personally got the jawbone.... I broke 4 earloops and now the top part after few recharge circle has become loose and I probably have to glue it now... I went on youtube and did some searches and come up with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4393Y7q6K8 also the noise shield it's useless because what's the point that the other party can ear you perfect but because of the noise you can't ear the other party? the best noise shield would be a plexiglass helmet around your head.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] mario23:
Just so you all know, you can turn the led off with the new Jawbone.

I'm still quite happy with it. I wear it all day at work and it is very comfortable. Sound quality is of course excellent. I would like to check out the Z9I just so I can compare the two for myself but otherwise, I'm very happy with the Jawbone 2.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] p51d007:
I've had the JB2 since I could order it on Aliph's website. LOVE IT!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] mario23:
You know what I love the most is that people don't know anymore that I'm on an earpiece. I don't hear those "you sound muffled?!?!" complaints anymore. If I ever find a Z9I locally, I'll try it out...just to know. Otherwise...loving the JB2!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] RemE:
Well I returned the JB2, it simply wasn't better enough, the fit, the buttons are a step back in my book. I did find and pick up the Z9i and also the new Blueant Supertooth 3 text-to-speech speakerphone.

Z9i, slightly better earloop and earbud selection. I still ended up using the Jabra earloop as previously mentioned in this thread and now it's super comfy. The buttons have been re-mapped, one touch to voice dial and end call, Much Improved! Overall sound is as before, good. I'm very happy.

Supertooth3 - Killer speaker phone, it talks (in 6 languages even), it tells you when it's connected to the phone, it tells you who's calling, it can allow you to voice answer calls. Very well made, very good sound quality, loud! Nice clip that stays on the visor (they give you a 2nd one too), the unit magnetically snaps onto the clip so you can grab it and stow it or charge it easily. Unlike the Z9's, this unit's firmware is not upgradeable, but I don't see any irritating features needing a change.

Blueant's really seems to understand how people use things and they actively refine their products, bravo.

Mind you I still like my JB1's and use them too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] kcchen:
Hmm... that's interesting. The noise cancellation to me is very important since I use the headset for business calls primarily, so voice quality is key. On my end, it would be nice to get a headset that produces better sound, but its the theres always a trade-off with everything.

They should have developed an in-ear , sound isolation option for the jawbone2.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] RemE:
Got mine here;

http://www.headsetking.com/p--819--BlueAnt-Z9i-Bluetooth-Headset---Black.aspx

Turns out they were right near my house so I walked in and picked one up, great price.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] sz0pf1:
Blue Ant Versus Jawbone

I've not tried the new Blue Ant Z9i but I purchased and tried out the new Jawbone 2 today.

Based on my testing I find the Jawbone 2, like I found the orginal Jawbone lacking on the user end. Also with the Jawbone 2 I'm not sure that the recepient end is as good as my original Jawbone. While there are some nice refinements in the design of the Jawbone 2, given that the sound is still thin or tinny I can't recommend it. I will be returning it. Someday when I either replace my Tilt or there is a SW upgrade that addresses the bluetooth performance I may revist the Jawbone 2.

The best headsets that I have found so far are the Plantronics 655 and the new 925. I have also, to a lesser degree, found the Motoroloa H12 to be acceptable.

Both the Plantronics are comfortable to wear, deliver on the user end sound quality approaching that of what most other phones deliver and the people on the receiving end can hardly tell that I'm using a headset.

The Motorola H12 is still better than most headsets that I've tried but I still give the edge to Plantronics for both noise cancellation and richness in sound quality on the user end.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] dgduris:
OK. I have tried most of what's mentioned here. I bought a new JB2 and a Sound ID 100.

The Sound ID is a better fit and - with exposed buttons including separate ones for up and down volume - it is the easier to use and has a far better fit.

The JB2 sounds a little better at my end and - per my brother, whom I call to test - the JB2 sound s a little better at his end too.

Driving at 75mph in my car with the bike rack on the roof, both are useless with M$ Voice Command.

At the end of 2 weeks extensive use, JB2 wins on sonic performance. But, when you consider that the Sound ID is half the cost and the better fit - especially as I wear glasses - it (Sound ID SM 100) is the outright winner.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] iampong:
BlueAnt Distributor in Thailand

I think Z9i is better than any brand, I belive in quality so I am distribute BlueAnt product in Thailand now. www.jhcinter.com
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] laakness:
I just got my Z9i 2 days ago and really love it. It's very loud with the Tilt and I can hear it perfectly fine with the windows down and my loud exhaust.

Users on the other end say that I sound good even when I told them that I couldn't hear myself talking at the time. It is almost the perfect size since the buttons are still perfectly accessable without making you look like you have some massive tumor off the side of your face.

I haven't tried the Jabra ear loop yet but I am finding it to be comfortable with the ones it came with. I'm glad I upgraded.