yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] zabardast_1:
Nono01

Before flashing any rom,download the 'WST Tool' and run the 'CID Action' button to verify the CID lock/unlock status of your phone.With ipl/spl 3.08,it becomes quite difficult to downgrade and CID unlock the phone,therefore,I'll advise you to get it confirmed if your phone is already unlocked or not,ok

Cheers! :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Nono01:
i won't try if somebody,please give ma an answer...is my vario G3 or G4...ipl/spl are 3.08

EDIT:

@ zabardast_1

where can i find this tool, and hou can i run it?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] shadow2000:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=295038&page=1

It says for my Phone G3. SPL/IPL 3.08 at all but i'm not sure about that.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] zabardast_1:
Download WST 4.2 from the following link and follow the instruction in this thread :-

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=329170

YES ! your phone is a G3 device with ipl/spl 3.08,The WST 4.2 tool will also verify it,ok

Cheers! :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] shadow2000:
WST tells me that my Phone ist locked. What is the best method for IPL/SPL 3.08 to cid unlock?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Nono01:
ok, i have pushed device info and it says

"Warning!

A device was detected but one (or both) of RAPI

Communications and Applications Policy isn't

enabled.

Use first button for that purpose and try again"

i have clicked Enb. RAPI and its same again, even after restart

EDIT: it works....

=> Bootloaders:

IPL: 3.08 (G3 device)

SPL: 3.08 (G3 device)

Built on Nov 13 2006 at 14:02:18

Copyright (c) 2003 High Tech Computer Corporation

=> Firmware:

OS: 5.1.xxx (Build 15671.3.3.0)

ROM: 3.8

Registry AKU: .3.3.0

Radio: 02.69.11

Protocol: 4.1.13.30

i have a CID Locked device...so tell me the procedure :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] shadow2000:
Here is a procedure to cid unlock but does it work for 3.08 at all?

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies

What about these instructions:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=263116
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] zabardast_1:
Its required to downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx to CID unlock the phone using lokiwiz02b tool,then upgrade to ipl/spl 2.xx for upgrade to any wm6 roms. Read and try to do the method correctly as instructed here in this guide :-

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...0for newbies

Although,it sometimes becomes quite difficult to downgrade from ipl/spl 3.08,but its possible.You can also download the official carrier's rom and flash to downgrade to first ipl/spl 2.xx and then onward flash the Button's Rom 1.05 to downgrade to ipl/spl 1.xx and apply lokiwiz02b to unlock.its better to decrease downgrade step wise, 3.08-----> 2.xx-----> 1.xx.

You'll find all the roms/tools and instruction in the above link.

Goodluck
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] shadow2000:
**** i have tried to downgrade to Button ROM but it finished on99% with an error. Now my Phone boots with tri color and reboots after a few sec.

Any suggestions for me?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] zabardast_1:
Download and flash the official rom or you can try xda_minis_launch.

Good luck
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Nono01:
thanx man, but your link is not working...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] zabardast_1:
Check out this link its working :-

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies

Cheers!:)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Nono01:
jup it works...

if my phone error's on 99% im gonna kill myself
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Nono01:
question? can i save my ROM that i have on my vario, so if my phone error's i can just put it back again?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] zabardast_1:
YUP ! you can if you have mini-sd card or sdcard inserted and use the method 'mtty' as per instructions and commands in the thread.

What you need is a MiniSD of at least 128MB (NOTE - All existing data inside will be wiped), the mtty program.

mtty can be downloaded at http://xdaforums.com/download.php?id=9864

To dump the ROM, first kill the wcescomm.exe process on your PC or disable USB connection in ActiveSync.

Then restart the wizard in BootLoader mode (Camera+reset), run mtty.exe and select \\.\WCEUSBSH001 as port.

After connected, enter "r2sd all", then ALL ROMS (IPL, SPL, Radio, OS) will be dumped to the card (If you only want OS, you may issue "r2sd os" instead).

After the USB> prompt returns, the operation complete. Put the card in your Wizard and reboot it, then it will have a prompt telling you to press a key for SD recovery, follow the instruction then it should be fine.

Cheers!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nickco43:
Here is my two hour old Pixel 2 XL VS Huawei Mate 9. My pixel has a build date of 10/12/2017.

Dead on:

[Pictures took a dump]

Slight tilt:

[Pictures took a dump]

Google RMAed my phone after I sent them those pictures.

UPDATE:

1. All OLED have some sort of color shift.

2. Not all OLED screens have a strong color shift

3. Not all Pixel Two XL's are created equal. Some have more color shift than others.

4. This is the only good phone on Verizon that will have custom ROM support.

5. Anyone on a GSM carrier should learn to live with the color shift or buy a OnePlus device.

6. LG still has QC issues on ever phone they make.

My replacement device still has a blue tint but it is better than my original device.

Overall this is the best phone on the market currently with Verizon support. I got to use my dad's iPhone X today and iOS is not ready for a phone without a home button.

Update 12/17/17:

I am on my third device and all three had noticable blue shift. The second device had screen burn in.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] alnova1:
Dead on???
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
Viewing angle.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] epagib:
Sorry for dumb question. What differences am I looking for between the pictures?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KCP100:
I just got mine today in US. I honestly don't have any complaints with mine. I downloaded Oreo Colorizer to give the display a wider range of colors, which works for now. I'm sure Google will address the colors with an update. As for the tint, maybe I'm just not seeing it, but this screen looks gorgeous to me at all angles.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nickco43:
The pixel two XL has a blue tint notably on the top of the screen when looking at an angle. The mate 9 has no such tint.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] seniorstew:
My V30 has the same blue tint issue. It won't change unless Google decides to switch display partners
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Don_Perrignon:
The blue tint is from the polarizer. If you want a new screen, let it be for another reason - you have a few to chose from, potentially.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] El Daddy:
Got my phone today. The display looks great!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] iceman4357:
we need everyone to start posting the hardware version that are having issues. Under About Phone -> Model. Mine shows hardware revision 10. I have no issues so far.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Golf c:
I have 10 My only issue is touchscreen sensitivity is iffy. Especially on the edges and bottom right corner.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Rodeojones:
I'm also hardware revision 10. The blue tint is there, but it's much more subtle in person than what I was expecting based upon the videos and pictures I saw before getting the phone. I don't know if it means I have an updated version with the display issue toned down, however. But I thought it was worth mentioning.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] iceman4357:
Right. I figure at least we can track revisions this way and can determine when its changed and if its better.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] josephpalozzi:
If the blue tint was from the polarizer, wouldn't all LCD screens suffer this? LG has plenty of experience making LCD screens, the majority of which polarizers do not cause this blue shift.

Could blue tint also come from using plastic as substrate and potentially being less transparent to longer wavelengths than glass? Viewing at a less than 90° angle increasing the amount of plastic the light has to travel through and thus potentially filtering out more of the lower energy (longer, red-er) wavelengths?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nickco43:
Mine is rev 10 as well. I'm starting to get use to the blue tint. I am very curious to see what differences the replacement device will have. The one I have now is a Canadian model even though I am in the US.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JimSmith94:
That makes sense to me. I had heard about the polarizer and wondered what if anything that would do to the look of the screen.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] zetsumeikuro:
It would take awhile before anyone starts seeing revised versions and that's even if Google does anything about it. I have a feeling they probably won't do any major hardware revisions and just push a software update out for screen saturation.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] tjtj4444:
It would be good to mention build date as well. Fixes in production quality (both display plant and phone assembly) will not increase hw version. HW-version increases when the hw-design is changed by R&D (new PCB, changed components etc).

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But these issues are not new to Google, of course they have seen these issues during normal internal testing and beta test.

And some issues might be basic production issues solved in the next batches.

Regardless, it is very difficult to predict what happens and when.

Also sad to see that Google does not respond at all so far.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] 1981greg:
Might be dumb question but we're do I find my build date.My XL 2 has the screen burn in ,the blue tint , and now while on phone call loud pitch and phone reboots 2 to 3 times a day .Google shipped me a new replacement arriving today see if there's any difference.Google has been very accommodating but still in denial there's a real problem
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bose301s:
Pretty much all screens use a standard polarizer, the Pixel 2 phones use circular polarization, however if it was the polarizer you would expect it on the Pixel 2 non-XL model as well, so I don't think it is the polarizer, but who knows, maybe it is an interaction between the circular polarizer and the POLED vs the SAMOLED.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
I know they got panels from LG i am saying Samsung couldnt do it becuase Google couldn't give them as much money as apple could. Iphone is going to sell a ton more screens then google ever will. And exactly why i am staying on note 8. its panel is perfect compared to pixel 2 xl
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] starche_old:
So, the wattanty is MOT transferable. That what I was thinking of, thank you for confirmation.

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Don't get me wront - Sammy's HW is fantastic, TBH - probably the best in Android world. But SW portion of the deal,,, I can't stand TW and I need AOSP. That was fine on Note 2, but with closed sources AND locked BL- I cannot install AOSP any more. Thus, no more Samsung for me.

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Well, if it's on TW than yes. But it's very fast on AOSP tho.

I guess I'll try to find used XL 2 - to see the screen first. AND than, if the screen is not so bad, to go ahead to buy new one or get that used one..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
you're still missing the point. I am saying Samsung did not make the pixel's panel is because google could not afford them. That is all. you'll need to learn how to read
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
I've owned 2 different Pixel XLs and now a 2 XL that I did NOT purchase. I have RMA'd all of those devices under warranty without any question or hesitation from Google. They don't give a **** who bought the phone. The warranty follows the phone. That verbage is obviously there and they could technically deny you warranty service, but clearly they're honoring it for anyone who has the device.

If you don't like the screen, come up with a reason to RMA it - whether you bought the phone from Google directly or not...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Voicebox:
I don't doubt what you say as they also gave me a brand new replacement phone (retail box with accessories) for a 13 month old phone that was defective. Clearly they stretched the warranty and then should have sent a refurb. I do think they go above what their warranty says for Pixels since they don't want bad press for "their" phone.

However, I also seen people in the Google forums saying something like, my phone has a problem but I bought it on Craig's list and Google says the warranty doesn't apply. Obviously people should try, but once outside the terms of the warranty, people are subject to the whims of the random person in customer service.

The question I responded to was is the warranty transferable, and it isn't. That Google is not sticking strictly to those terms is at their discretion, like for any claim outside the terms of the warranty.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] starche_old:
Well, looking at price tag (at least here, in Canada) the price for XL2 and Note 8 is on par, thus I would think Google SHOULD be able to afford great screen. Why that didn't happen - good question for G to answer
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mlin:
I'm not sure this is even close to true, how do you know "Google couldn't afford screens from Samsung?"
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] tsl05:
I think this issue has been way overblown, but I agree that if you pay $1000 for a device, it should meet your standards, whatever those may be. If it doesn't, then RMA it until it does or look elsewhere. To me, this is the best device on the market in terms of overall package.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] starche_old:
Especially that on original XL there was actually Sammy's panel (correct me if I'm wrong here). Google was able to "afford" it last year, so...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Voicebox:
I think this discussion is viewed the wrong way. The decisions on what goes in and which suppliers to use are not dependent on what "Google can afford". It is entirely about getting a cost that will hit a price point the

consumer

will pay. Also included in those choices are ability to deliver, and all the technical issues like compatibility, and everything fitting together in a small enough housing. The package has to make sense for the consumer relative to what else is out there.

In this case, they're dealing with 2 different models and manufacturers (Pixel 2 and Pixel 2XL), that have to be similar enough to be the same family and also at a cost that makes sense relative to each other.

My personal opinion is Google traded off in using the LG screen. Basically LG probably came in at a lower price because they're getting into OLED screens, and they can't charge what Samsung charges. Google added that Pixel Visual Core chip, which cost something. Plus in the XL they have the extra stereo speaker and related guts to output stereo. So they added costs that aren't in competing phones, and so decided to take stuff out, like the DAC. And I think they went with the LG screen to save some money per unit on the XL.

But they could also have faced the issue of Samsung couldn't deliver either in volume or timeliness for both phones, so they kept it for the smaller, which probably costs a lot less. The screen and housing are two of the biggest cost single items that are different between the two models.

Couldn't find anyone costing out the Pixel 2. But here was a costing estimate of the Pixel. You can see that there's a whole lot of room for marketing, logistics, customer support, returns, dedicated engineers, overhead, etc. So Google could decide to eat some of the costs. But I think they costed they Pixel 2 XL to be in line with the industry.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...Google-Pixel-XL-Manufacturing-Cost-Line-Rival

http://mms.businesswire.com/media/20161025005551/en/551538/5/GooglePixelTeardown.jpg?download=1
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
Because it's very simple. Apple is going to pay a premium to get Samsung to make their panels and they can afford it because they are going to sell am exponential amount of iPhones when compared to the pixel XL 2. I would also venture to say the pixel 2 was a prior contract that was kept. I'm not saying the pixel isn't the best device out their its screen just isn't to my liking with the blue tint. Everything else is fine by me.

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Read my post above why. Apple can pay more plain and simple

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Prove me wrong, find a pixel 2 XL cost breakdown. I bet the pixel XL screen cost very close to the 2 XL screen. LG does not have near the reputation of Samsung in anything let alone their screens.

So they take out headphone jack, dac, no wireless charging still, lesser screen quality then other flagships and cost more?? Doesn't add up to me. I understand chip cost a little more and one little speaker cost a hair more not enough to matter though. Still doesn't add up
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] whyme45125:
I actually think google went to LG to try to drive a different manufacturer to build a good oled panel since their tvs are so great and to help the market since samsungs' screens has a monopoly on the mobile device market. Competition drives innovation also helps bring the prices down and in the end leads to success.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
If this were true (which it isn't) why didn't they go with LG for regular pixel too then??
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] whyme45125:
WHO PI$$ED IN YOUR WHEATIES THIS MORNING?

The handset is said to feature a nearly bezel-less 18:9 display panel similar to the one found on the LG G6 and V30 which Google indirectly funded by investing a trillion won ($886 million) into LG Display’s OLED operations this spring.

This wasn't just a simple purchase order agreement. They invested in LG for a reason, what that is idk. But my guess was to help breed competition in the screen game. Btw sorry I was WRONG and that you're butthurt over that. Must suck only being right all the time. And if you say it isn't true because of the smaller pixel then enlighten us all why don't you since you seem to know the answer yourself. Post proof too not just your opinion because mine was discarded for just simply guessing. lol your genius must hurt right now.

AND DOES ANY OF THIS MATTER? NO

IGNORED
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] boilerjohn94:
Sending back my Pixel 2 XL that was manufactured on 11/13 because of the blue screen. The screen was terrible. Very disappointed and debating whether to try again or just move on with the Note 8.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Voicebox:
Prove you wrong in what way? I know LG doesn't have near the reputation of Samsung, particularly in displays. That's the whole point. I think Google went cheap by going with LG instead of Samsung for the screen. If it costs about the same as the Pixel XL screen, they would be getting a 6 inch screen for the same price as the 5.5 inch Samsung screen was last year. And was that Samsung's cutting edge screen at that time? Looks like the S7 Edge had the same size and spec screen, and it was released 7 months before the Pixel XL. So it might have been 7 months old at that time versus this year's screen is probably LG's newest model since it is in the V30 also. So it should cost more if it were a Samsung display. Which is isn't.

I'm not saying Google makes good hardware or design decisions. In fact I think they don't. They waste money on things only a minority of users appreciate. Who wanted stereo speakers and squeezable sides to activate Assistant over having a 3.5mm headset jack and smaller casing? Not a whole lot of people. Who wanted to have the Pixel Visual Core? That's at least a useful chip, but would people notice if Google hadn't put money into it? But they think these are valuable features and charge for them.

If you had asked me last year how the Pixel phone prices made sense, I'd couldn't justify them then either. Since I'm on Google's Project Fi, I was all set to buy last year. And they came out with the Pixels. Which looked dated, and then when I saw the specs I thought they were about $150 too high. Not water resistant, no sd card slot, smallish screens for the phone sizes. But Google does this as a hobby and not their main business, so aren't really in touch with customers. If they had to sell as many units as the main players sell, they'd get a better feel for where they stand relative to competitors.

This year, I can't justify the prices either, though I think the phones are much better than last year. I save about $20/month on Fi, so that lowers my total cost. But otherwise, I wouldn't even have considered it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
Just received my 4th unit. Previous was built October 12th, new one is November 17th. Absolutely ZERO difference between the displays, except the newest one is actually a little more grainy. I'm going to keep this one for a few weeks to see if it burns in like the previous phone. I am using Navbar apps this time to help stop the problem. I'm also hoping the graininess gets better with use - this is a thing with LG TV OLEDs where they get better uniformity with usage hours. Blue shift between the two phones is exactly the same (not great).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ram4ufriends:
4th one..crazy.... You got new phones as replacement all the time? What reason we're you giving for RMA? Did you return them accessories as well or just the phone?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
1st unit was pre-order from Google. Returned it for refund because I was disappointed in the display. Not worth $900~.

2nd unit was bought used on Swappa to save $$$. Sold it the same day because the display was no better.

3rd unit was bought locally from Craigslist for $650 due to bad scratches on the display. RMA'd because it had burn-in.

4th unit is the first RMA unit I've received. I'll keep it because clearly, it is what it is at this point, and now I have a brand new phone for $650. There are no great displays out there as far as I'm concerned. They've all looked the exact same. Maybe there's a unicorn or 2 out there, but I haven't found it, and won't bother looking for it unless we get definitive proof that new batches later on are better. I'm not returning the accessories. That can be their gift to me for ****ing the display up so badly.

In the near future, they won't be sending new phones for RMA. They're just waiting until they have refurb units available, and those refurbs won't include accessories or an original box either.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] starche_old:
that's very disappointing story, bro... Fell bad for you...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] parakleet:
Mine is build date 11/23

Just as blue as my last 3
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xflowy:
and how about some other values like the graininess and shifting colour shades when adapting brightness?

do you guys have the whatsapp low volume on voice messages bug, too?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Milchbeck:
Mine is Build Date 11.11

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