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[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Try4Ce:
The lack of a proper manual mode is really a big bummer for me as well, coming from the fantastic camera apps of the galaxy series. I mainly used manual modes on my S7 and can't do so on my Pixel 2 XL, which can be frustrating. I REALLY hope Google listens to us and implements some sort of manual control over the most requested parameters like ISO, Shutter, Exposure and so on.

About the Hardware / Software Side - I can fully understand that the software and hardware of the HTC U11+ appeals to a lot of people. HTC Sense is, without doubt, THE best custom android framework out there - It's fast, beautiful in design and layout. And pretty darn feature rich. HTC knows what they're doing.

The main thing that makes me never touch an HTC device again (I had the HTC One, One X, HTC M7 and M8) is their crappy support, how rude they became towards customers (here in germany it became abysmal) and their update policy (which became better tho over the last few months/years). The U11+ is a beautiful device, but the fact its from HTC makes it an absolute no go for me.

But looking at the HTC U11+, it becomes pretty obvious that it was usually planned as the original Pixel 2 XL. A combination of the current Pixel 2 XL and the HTC U11+ would've been fantastic.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] baginz10:
Received my 2nd replacement today. Screen burn after less that an hours use. Same build date as my last replacement. It also has a few scratches on the back glass which I would ignore if the screen was perfect.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] BR7fan:
What number do I call to get google cs. I have bad blue screen
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] baginz10:
08003286081

I don't think they do replacements for blue shift.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Trinaaa:
My story... Got one in December, after a few days there was a spot at the top which got bigger every day. Ordered from Google, returned it. Got back to my og pixel xl.

I really loved the pixel 2 so i decided to order again from a german shop. Received it past Thursday, today again...at the half bottom black spot, a black stripe next to it from left to right. Will send it back.

Damn, why do we need 3 ore more phones to get one which is not defective?! I'm really pissed and hopefully one day...the pixel 3 arrives.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] BR7fan:
So basically you have to do deal with it?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] baginz10:
If it's that bad you should contact them
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Basically, yes.

I bought the phone directly from Google and complained about the blue color, because it was like looking straight forward to the sky.

They said me that the screen is like that, like "it is what it is", and they don't exchange or apply warranty on that. They told me if I want a new one, I should return first and then buy another one, which most of the people do here, but honestly I don't have the patience or the time to be exchanging phones every 2-3 days until I get a decent unit.

I just returned the phone, grabbed an U11+ and never looked back, Google is not taking my money this year; probably for the Pixel 3 if they decide to put a minimum of quality control over their phones.

:)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hmmmsomething:
Have any of you tried the February update and noticed whether the flashing screen issue during lock/unlock has been resolved.

I sent my phone through the RMA processes for screen flashing when it locked/unlocked. The new phone I received started having the same issue less than 24 hours after I turned it on. Wondering if its a software issue rather than hardware.. I don't want to go through the RMA process again if I don't have to. It is also frustrating that Google hasnt given a clear indication as to whether the issue is hardware or software related.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] daneb_l:
It looks like it stopped for me after I did the Feb patch, no occurence since the update.

I'll keep monitoring it for a few days.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] baginz10:
My 3rd replacement arrived today. Brand new device manufacture date 21st of November. Just after I finish setting it up I notice a dead pixel! Can't believe this, if I had originally purchased it from Google I would of had a refund by now. The quality control is an absolute disgrace.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xflowy:
3 times rma gives you the right to refund? thought this was a myth.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] baginz10:
I think it's 3 repairs but not 100% sure.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] umx:
i got my phone today from google.. manu date is jan 16th.. Still has some slight blue hue, doesnt look grainy to me. havent seen any other issues yet
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] hmmmsomething:
So far so good after February update!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
Only your third? Lol I'm on my sixth or seventh device!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] matt1515:
Mine is manufacture date of December 1st I find screen is great. I understand a dead pixel but slight off shift blue is nothing. Can't say I can notice it on mine only thing I notice is the black smear "effect" but that doesn't bother me really. Really is an awesome device.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] lifesgreat:
i originally order a the P2XL 128GB in december, and got a device with a pink hue, RMAed it and recieved a device with A LOT of dead pixels in the top right of the displayed. did a refund on that one. waited until last monday to order another pixel but this time 64GIG i have to say the device is perfect. no issues at all. obviously it will have some blue shift but im happy. manufacture date on the new is 1/29/18. good luck.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] justin654:
Started noticing strange discolored lines in my display. Awaiting my replacement device now. :| I've only had it for a week or so. Never had this experience with any other device. Sad especially that this is the most expensive device I've bought.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
You can get a dud with any phone unfortunately
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] daneb_l:
It's very likely that the Feb patch fixes the flashing screen issue. Updated over a week ago and haven't had a flash since.

I decided to go get a new RMA (after having sent back the 1st replacement unit I received).

So 2nd replacement (i.e. 3rd Pixel): Manufactured Jan 9th, but screen considerably grainy and not uniform. Again.

That's it I'm keeping my Nov 10th Pixel until it has a significant defect, or until we have an official confirmation of hardware revision with new improved screens.

I have not seen a single Pixel 2 XL without any kind of grain, that's just bad.

Let's see what Pixel 3 looks like.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mudnightoil:
From what I heard, a large number of P2XLs use a lower bin of the screen that LG uses for its V30.

Since these are the only 2 devices using the screen, and LG still seem to have some issues with POLED for displays of this size, using this screen for the device was an absolutely horrible decision on Google's part. They would have known about the issues, and would have known LG didn't have enough of the top bin for them.

With the mass of returns, the maximum profit margin they hoped to ensure by not going Samsung AMOLED is almost certainly lost. Even more so, as despite their plan to maintain launch price long after launch (like the first Pixel), they've had to cut it heavily already.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Electroluxray:
Wow that's good to hear they are shipping units made in January. And they possibly don't suck! I may wait a bit longer, sell my Pixel 2, and go back to the XL if I'm sure it'll be a latest and greatest version. Is your new device a B/W Panda?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] slg60:
received my 5th Xl. This device is from 04.Jan. Screen is ok, little grainy and white is more less greenish, so no clear white..... don't know what to do anymore.... There is no phone out there which can compete with the xl.... perhaps I will stick with that device now, when I can lower my own quality requirements....hard story for a device which is nearly to 1000Euro....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
I returned my Pixel 2 XL because of all the screen issues and I got an U11+, and couldn't be happier.

I just installed the apk for the Pixel launcher and live wallpapers, and is like having a Pixel 2 XL without the issues.

Best phone you can get right now, and the price also is a really big advantage.

;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dmb219:
My display started flashing when it is turned off. Started on Jan update, continues on Feb. I was on chat for the 2nd time last night. They are dragging their feet about replacing it, having a "specialist" email me within 24 hours. I've reset, reinstalled, it keeps coming back. What's the secret getting an rma? I have a legitimate issue and am very polite and factual. Feel like I'm getting jacked around.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] slg60:
Maybe, but when it comes to Updates, all other phones than pixel devices suck! This is the dealbreaker.... An no oled display, also nogo for me...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Well, is that's the case, then is true that no other devices will give you fast updates, but in my case, I don't need them, and more over, they have been kind of counterproductive for me; when I had the Pixel, I got a lot of force closes with different applications. What's the point to have fast updates and the latest releases if Google doesn't obligate developers to keep with them?. Since Nougat, there are no nice features or deal breakers, so I'm fine with not having monthly updates or the latest Android version as long as the phone is regularly updated and supported.

Regarding the OLED, yes, I like better OLED panels and this is my first LCD in many years, but LG OLED are so crappy and bad, so no much to do here. I prefer better this LCD than the OLED in the Pixel, the difference is abysmal.

;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
Actually HTC lcd screens are just as likely to have problems. Pink/yellow tints
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Yes, but mostly in the asiatic version. Global version was fixed and didn't come with this problems.

;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
Not true. I've had loads of HTC phones. All with the same screen problems. There lcd screens are not very good
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] tatwamasi:
Got a replacement manufactured late December.

It's better than my last one. The blue doesn't really bother me on this one. I'm going to go for a third replacement and stick with whatever is best.

I'd choose this screen over a dead pixel.

It started flashing the moment I applied the latest update, btw. I'm not sure why it's intermittent, or why it didn't happen on my old phone with the same update but I'm fairly confident it's software, not hardware.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pro4ever:
Hi purchasing a pixel 2 xl on ebay and have asked when it was purchased. as have heard later production models are slightly better? Is this true also phone was bought on 12jan by seller.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] tatwamasi:
[MENTION=4429075]pro4ever[/MENTION], what are you concerned about? If it's blue shift, ask the seller to photograph it?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] andybg40:
Show me a user forum on here where people are not complaining about the screen. Not possible.

Unfortunately, it is about sacrifice, with all manufacturers. Colour shift, burn in, non uniform whites, grain etc, etc, etc. You cannot avoid it, but can you put up with it?!

Sure, some manufacturers do 'seem' to have it worse than others, but forums are populated with negative bias, that's just human nature. I haven't seen a thread this long on a HTC forum, so you could argue that their screens aren't as bad as this pixel version. Horses for courses.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
There's plenty of forums and people that are not complaining about the screen. It's fine
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
I'm sorry, but couldn't disagree more, and every review and analysis out there about the Pixel 2 XL mentions the screen.

Take this video as an example:

https://youtu.be/Nt68U_orA0A

:victory:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
That settles it then that 1 review must be right ??

Alot reviewers carry the pixel 2 XL as there daily phone. The screen is fine. It's not as good as Samsung no. But it's good. Sorry but there's a massive amount of people that are happy with no complaints. These forums are a tiny fraction of people
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Indeed, screen is fine, but for a 1K phone, you don't expect a screen to be "just fine".

And even when people is happy, most of them are not 100% satisfied with it neither.

:)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
https://youtu.be/Hi2tjMLVpdQ

Something like 5 Pixel 2 XLs to 2 or 3 iPhone Xs.

For them and everyone else, it's all subjective. Some people can tolerate it and some can't. I can but maybe because mine doesn't seem that bad or I can see past it and just enjoy everything else that's great on the phone. It's just easy for people to spot app the hate yet not the love for the phone.

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Who's ever 100% satisfied with a phone? I'm sure your U11+ isn't perfect for you.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Yes, it is perfect, but as you said, for me.

It has all the things I need and it covers all my points. Probability for someone else, the screen and other things are not that important and the Pixel is the perfect fit for them.

I never stay with a phone that is not perfect to my eyes and covers all my needs.

:)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
Fyi. I'm very fussy when in comes to screens. I sent back 4 oneplus 5t phones cause everyone had uneven tints...had 4 htc u11 and 3 HTC 10 all with light bleed. Pink and yellow tints. I had 3 Samsung s6 for pink tints. I sent back the mate 10 pro for an uneven tints. All amoled screens have bad batches. There just not overhyped like it has been with the pixel. Mine is great. Good temperature with no uneven tints...and the blue tint is never ever noticed
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Right so how about seeing that the Pixel 2 XL can be perfect for other people?

Edit:

Correction. You actually DID just say it can be perfect for people. My bad. LOL
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Quasar83:
I'm thinking about going for the regular Pixel 2 instead. Have not heard of any screen issues with that one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
True. It's the same phone but old 16:9 ratio screen with wasted top and bottom bezels and smaller battery. If those you don't mind those two things, go for it. I would've actually went for that if the new design of the 2 XL was available in a smaller factor.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Quasar83:
Yes, but I want to go for that over a messed up screen. I'm very picky when it comes to screens.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Pick up a 2 XL, try it for 14 days, if it's messed up enough for you, return it and get the Pixel 2.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Quasar83:
Maybe I will. Can't order it directly from Google in Norway. Have to go through vendors that have imported the phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Ah sounds like a hassle but at least they're available for you. Be sure to check their return policy.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Quasar83:
It is a hassle and also more expensive since they are imported. A 64GB Pixel 2 XL will kost me 1198$ here. 944$ for the regular one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Wow. That's US dollars? That's a huge extra cost! I don't think it's worth that especially if you can get a good alternative for less.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Quasar83:
Yes, USD. Maybe I will wait and see how to Galaxy S9 turns out. At least it will be released here in Norway.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Electroluxray:
I'm using the Pixel 2 after returning two XL2's.

The good: screen colors more accurate and uniform, almost no color shifting, low brightness is better, it's a one handed phone but just barely, seems faster in my opinion.

The bad: smaller screen - and I needed to enlarge my text, it's boxy on the corners and sides, and it's not a thin phone on the edges, battery life is noticeably less than the XL2, the bezels are giant - the same size as the first Pixel.

But it's about the overall experience. I prefer a more accurate screen to a large one, personally. So far I'm glad I switched to the regular 2. I only miss having a big screen. Next year I'll get the XL3 assuming they sort out the OLED issues.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Namolas:
I just received my 128GB Just Black Pixel 2 XL yesterday. Ordered directly from Google but I did *not* get the preferred care (just because it was already so dang expensive!). I am wondering if there is anything in particular I should check with the screen while I am still within my 15 day return window?

I may be opening a can of worms here but I would rather find out if there is something wrong and address it now rather than find it on day 16.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rickysidhu_:
I traded my OnePlus 5T for a 2XL, paid about $120 on top, bought the 5T for $730, so I basically got the 2 XL for $850. Considering the 2XL was ~$1400 after tax straight from Google at the time, I feel like I got a steal!

Almost no blue tint when looking off-axis, but I do notice some colour shifting on white backgrounds. Sometimes it gets to a warmer tone (yellow), other times cooler (blue).

It's not too bad though, as it's hardly noticeable and I couldn't be happier with this, especially compared to the 5T.

Not to get too OT but the vibration motor on the 5T was horrible. Feeling the vibration on the 2XL is a HUGE step up, just an additional thing I noticed aside from the screen.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Namolas:
This is good to hear actually. I couldn't decide between the Pixel 2 XL and the 5T. I originally ordered the 5T a week ago and then cancelled it within an hour and ordered the Pixel instead. Figured I'd give the Pixel a 14 day trial run and if I had screen issues I would just send it back and get the 5T instead.

I'm really enjoying the Pixel a lot. It does have a blue shift but I can't say as though I really care. It doesn't bother me any more than any other phone I've had. So as long as there's no other problems with the screen she's here to stay. :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rickysidhu_:
Download this app called something like "display checker" or "display tester". It has lots of tests you can run to ensure the display isn't defective. That's what I did when I traded for mine!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xflowy:
could u provide us with a manufacturing date?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Namolas:
Yes. I was quite surprised when I first ran the IMEI check. Its pretty old. :eek:

Manufacture date: November 06, 2017

Shipped from factory: November 08, 2017

Estimated phone age: 3 Month(s), 1 week(s), 3 day(s)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] daneb_l:
I've had 3 Pixel 2 XL's. The best of the 3 was manufactured in November. The other ones were from January.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xflowy:
thats why i asked :) having a 128 black myself and wondered if google is even manufacturing them recently. i guess, there are no units around and probably never will be. should of gone with the 64 model. at least their newer ones dont have the blue tint. mine is horrible on a 11/1 mf date.

how is yours? getting blue when doing the slightest tilt?

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does this also apply to the blue tint? as i read this much by now, that im pretty sure, that blue tint is getting less on average with recent units. ofc there are exceptions.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Namolas:
Yeah blue tint is a bit excessive. Definitely more than devices I've had before but it doesn't really bother me. I adjust my screen to vivd warm using night shift 24 hours a day on all my devices anyways. I did run that app that was suggested to me and was unable to find anything else wrong with the screen at all. No dead pixels, graininess, banding or anything else. I would never send it back just based on the blue tint personally.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] daneb_l:
The blue tint is the same on all 3 devices. It's definitely noticeable.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
Yeah my first 4/5 phones were like this but last ones have been money. Very little to no blue shift. Getting into Samsung territory now just not as bright
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xflowy:
even the january devices?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Pyr0x64:
My 2xl was...

Manufacture date:	January 03, 2018

Shipped from factory:	January 05, 2018

The blue shift isn't bad enough to bother me. My old S7Edge has a rainbow effect when tilted.

I was more bothered by the crush and smearing at low brightness. Since disabling adaptive brightness and using Screen Balance it's much better though.