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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pappy35:
My wife is an iPhone devotee and so I'm her default IT support person and as a result I'm very familiar with iOS and it's severely limited abilities.

The single biggest, and best, difference you'll discover is the ability to fully customize almost anything on the phone. Notifications indicators are alway visible at the top of the screen. You can place an app icon anywhere on the screen you want vs. iOS's infuriating mandatory top-left to bottom-right arrangement (ever have an adorable picture of your kid that you can see cause you can't move icons around?). Real widgets that range from daily schedule to weather to, well, just about anything and they can be placed anywhere on the screen and sized as needed (what iOS calls widgets are a joke). App settings are accessible from within every app so you don't have to, say, exit your calendar, go to settings, find the app settings item, make your change, and then go back to your calendar. Android let's you track battery usage in detail, either within Settings or via 3rd party apps (GSam is great for this). I mean it goes on and on and on with the central theme being: Android invests the user with much more control and personalization and Apple clamps the OS down to the point where 1) they all look the same (boring), and 2) they make it impossible for people to take a peek under the hood (every try to figure out why your battery drain is suddenly worse?).

By buying the Pixel, as opposed to any of the other Android brands, you are buying a device that is unencumbered by endless, basically useless, marketing-driven, whizz-bang features like Samsung's old "gestures" or poorly implemented iris or face-scanning that can fooled with a photo, etc..

Pixel's follow the Apple model (one of the few really good things about iOS) of owning both the hardware design AND the OS so you get regular updates directly from Google. On other devices, there are layers of software riding between you and the OS (so-called "Skins" and other hardware-related drivers) and they (Samsung/LG/HTC/etc.) have to devote resources ($$$) to modify these layers which adds, literally months, to the update cycle.

For example, the Samsung S8 was released in April of the this year (or thereabouts) running Android 7 Nougat, Android 8 was release this August and the S8 may not see that until early NEXT year, if ever. The LG V30 just released this month and is also running Nougat and they have an even worse record of timely updates.

I had a few months of pain when I jumped over about 5 years ago and back then Android wasn't anywhere near as capable as it is now. Android and iOS are converging and I prefer Android's philosophy of openness and customization to Apple's every phone is the same model.

Until you get accustomed to the OS don't spend any time thinking about rooting (in the Apple world it's called "Jailbreaking") or unlocking the bootloader to facilitate accessing under-the-hood aspects of the OS that, as a new Android guy who is not a 'techie', you really don't need to utilize it's full potential. Forget about that for now and have fun learning the new OS.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Dc52ltr:
I think one thing you may wish to do is disable imessage, as if still enabled can cause loss or delay of sms messages, other than that, go ahead and enjoy the customisation of Android :good:
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] xT29c:
Just received mine yesterday and got 9hrs SOT. After HEAVY usage. Games, videos, camera, etc.

So far, I am shocked by the battery life.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jemeljsh:
Which version you have ? Huawei Mate 10 ALP-L09 or Huawei Mate 10 ALP-L29 or Huawei Mate 10 ALP-L00 ? Could you post your battery stats ?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] xT29c:
Mate 10 ALP-L00
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] lawtq:
Good shocked? Got mine today
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jemeljsh:
https://youtu.be/lXp-4QyJpmo

Maybe this was tested before the mentioned updates which improved battery life
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Derpling:
Read some reviews and saw video on youtube, the Mate 10 battery life sucks big time, it loses to S8 and Note 8 which is quite embarrassing, barely better than iphone.

I wonder if the update resolved the issue.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] warea:
Mrwhotheboss review was done before the rom update was released. And running Antutu several times is not even reliable way of finding battery life.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Derpling:
Yep but it still weird to see the Mate loses like that, i hope Huawei will address it, or they already have.

Soon we will have the official reviews, then we can judge.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jemeljsh:
It did well on gsmarena battery test:

https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_10-review-1675p3.php

For me phones that have 80h+ on gsmarena battery test are 5-6hours sot phones with the heaviest of usage and with moderate usage they can last couple of days so battery wise everything seems good.

Here’s new review that also mentions sot and shows battery usage. I am sold thats its ok in terms of battery. Dude has 6hours of sot on heavy usage.

https://youtu.be/KLa_0dyIIr4
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] lawtq:
Well so far I'm getting over an hour SOT every 10% of batter, this is what I hoped. Pic and so on will come. And yes those tube videos really did scare me too

Anyone found a video of the 10 vs 10 pro for battery life? Really want to see how mine is against the pro
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Derpling:
I guess it's good, the Mate 9 really set up very high standards :), i see the Mate 10 is not an improvement in battery life, at least not directly as it has higher display panel but more efficient CPU.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] warea:
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Notebookcheck battery test results for Mate 10 pro.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] lawtq:
Greatest battery life ever

One hour and 30 minutes sot before it got to 90% then slowly to this lever. This is almost all 4g, bluetooth on all the time andI toggle gps as I need it, which wasn't much at all today. No games today either which I hardly play. On mate 9 I'd have 20% work plus 7 hours sot. Withth this I got over 40%

I have the cat 18 high speed setting on too, maybe I'll get more battery disabling this setting. Sitting at 40% left after 7hrs 35 mins sot, Not bad

Really want to see how the mate 10 stacks against mate 10 pro battery life wise

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[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] ramheer:
How did you get cat 18 switched on?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] lawtq:
Settings, wireless and networks, mobile network, advanced, where you'll find Lte high speed mode
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] tboy2000:
This is the second day of using the phone. I would say I am a heavy user. My result is below. It's good but I was expecting more as Huawei says the 970 is more efficient than the 960.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] lawtq:
After 20 hours since full charge this is very good battery life! On course to get over 11 hours sot over such a long period of time.

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Hour sot, only used 5% battery

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[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] xT29c:
loving the battery
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Csetoue:
Can you guys put above the screenshot which version of Mate are you using? Thanks
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] ikenvape:
Coming from a Mate 9. You have to give it time to adjust to you to get optimal results. Anyone posting the first week battery results, it's nearly the same as an ordinary phone. Still a good base to go on. The ai still needs time for pattern adjustment to unlock it's true potential.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] xT29c:
ALP-AL 00
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
[YOUTUBE]7H9pAn4Hl50[/YOUTUBE]

Look at this test! Mate 10 (non pro) is put to shame! What's going on????? Is this true??

Also look at the Mate 10 screen brightness on this video. It's supposedly at maximum brightness but it looks so dim!!
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] tboy2000:
I think this has been discussed. Perhaps the Mate 10 in that video had pre release software before Huawei released a bug fix to stop the battery drain. Either way, it's not good for Huawei as potential customers will just think it's bad and won't know it has been fixed.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
And the screen that looks very dim?!?! Is that the maximum brightness it can do??? :(
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] warea:
Don't take those test too serious.

There was a similar "test" before that was thrown around to bash the Mate 10 pro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXp-4QyJpmo

And yet all the actual reviews instead put Mate 10 pro to be the king in battery life.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
In those tests the iPhone 8+ is one of the worst. This is also not normal! At least in past iPhones.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Kzyw:
What level of brightness have you used? It must be very low ... no?

Your Mate is 10 normal?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] lawtq:
Auto all the time
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] VTEChump:
Is this good?!
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] SAVVAS.:
Actually in that video the screen looks like ****, nothing less nothing more. I don’t know if there are two type of panels.... Some videos from YouTube I can admire the screen and some I can hate it. The funny thing is that the Black version was always the bad example from I have said.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jvidia:
Sh!t

I want the black one :(
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] tboy2000:
In battery settings, when you tap on Launch, are you managing apps automatically or manually? I think this setting is the equivalent to run under lock screen setting on Mate 9.

Right now I have them and all set to manual and all turned off except some specific apps I want to autostart and run in the background. Just wondering if best to let the phone take care of apps automatically or control it ourselves.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] djmaxi:
Hey guys,

How do you managed those impressive SOT?!?!! I only get around 6 hours on WQHD, model AL00 firm 8.0.0.118.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Klanac89:
This tests mean nothing...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] xT29c:
I will need to do more test. Some days I get 6+ SOT, others 4. My phone usage doesn't differ that much.

I.M., Clash of Clan, You Tube, Music, Podcasts, Web-browsing.

NO email, facebook, twitter, or other social media garbage.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] white43:
I've got the black non-pro running Asian firmware (C636) 119.

Have wifi and bluetooth on all the time. Make minimal calls, browsing, Facebook, whatsapp. Connected to Huawei watch and by bluetooth trackers.

Getting 50% drop in a day, so lasting me 48 hours.

Better than the Mate 9 Pro for that. I expect it would last way longer if I didn't have bluetooth on.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] jemeljsh:
Battery life is above avarage on Mate 10. My mate 10 alp-l29 is getting ~6-7 hours of SOT in heavy usage - Sync,BT, Location always ON while running Whatsapp, Youtube, Chrome and Spotify throughout one charge.

Best part I like about Mate 10/Huawei is how well it sleeps while left for night charged up to 100%. Left it at 2300 @ 100%, picked up 8:00 next day (+9h) and it was still at 100%. Besides iPhones that I have had mate 10 has been awesome mobile signal reception wise, which also impacts battery life.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] dizdaizda:
Wow. Brilliant battery life. Two days ago I discharged my phone by 56%. Now is 11% left. :svetius:
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] guztavo1:
Guys, is there any way to turn off data when the screen is off? I had this mode in my asus zenfone 3 zoom, and it was wonderful for standby time, but i cannot find anything similar in the mate 10.

I do not like the normal battery saver mode, as it makes the phone slower, and also notifications from apps like whatsapp dont work when im using it.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] gm007:
And how you will get notifications if data off when screen is off lol?

Anyway i remember there is a toggle for it but i don't have the phone to tell you where, I remember it's called "data always on" Maybe search in the settings.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] guztavo1:
Because when the screen is off i have no data, so zero battery drain, but when the screen is on i get all the notifications automatically. In the current battery saver mode, even with the screen on, i dont get notifications because apps dont work on background, so i have to open like 5 apps manually separately to see if there is something new. Email, whatsapp, viber, skype, etc etc. So its a pain in the ass. The screen off data off is perfect for me. Does that make sense?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] madkhaz:
So, do you getting good battery life by using manual setting or does notification for specific apps been received when screen off?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] mitch181:
why wi-fi is indicated while it was all the way off

how to explain this circumstance?why wifi is shown?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] gm007:
Turn off wifi scanning in location settings,the 3 dots in upper right.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] SkyboneNoya:
Set up a sync on demand profile in Tasker app.

You can set data on when screen on / data off when screen off as well.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] avatar_ro:
Satisfied

Mate 10 Pro, dual sim on the same carrier.

Location On High accuracy

Location History ON

WiFi ON always

Bluetooth used for a few hours

Official Rom no root

Never used power saving features.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Shipoftheline:
I've only recharged every second day on a regular basis
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] SkyboneNoya:
I'm still waiting for my mate 10 to arrive but I was wondering if anyone has noticed considerably more battery loss using alternative launchers like Nova Launcher?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] guztavo1:
That actually sounds very good thank you!

I downloaded Automateit (because its free, tasker is paid), and there is an option to turn off autosync (not to turn off data), will try that for a while and then go to tasker otherwise. But thanks for the idea, i didnt even know this existed!
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] SkyboneNoya:
No problem. Tasker and apps like it are such a hidden gem! Glad I could help
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] avatar_ro:
to be honest I use only Nova from the beginning since I hate EMUI... that's a good question though. anyway, for me battery life is great. (from my point of view indeed)

edit: I have mate 10 pro
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Those of you who are using gsam, does the sot time match the built in battery monitor?

According to gsam i'm getting approx. 12h

sot while the built in monitor says 4.5h..

12h just can't be correct.

I'm using a Mate 10 pro.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
How/Where do you see exactly sot in battery parameters monitor ?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Settings - battery - usage - hardware - screen
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] lawtq:
Yes the same
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Ok.

It differs alot on my device..

Don't remember that I had this problem in other devices.

Any idea what to check? Some settings perhaps?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] lawtq:
Clear gsam data and start again with.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] WDawn:
Using Nova on my Mate 10 Pro, and it consistently shows up as one of the apps using a lot of battery. I don't mind though as battery life is still great.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Just tried didn't work..

The built in monitor seems correct but gsam is waaaay of..
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] lawtq:
So odd! Try doing this on Full charge?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Yes couple of times..

Tried reboot after full charge too.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] guztavo1:
It never matches so i uninstalled it. Use accubattery, much better

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I tried tasker and automateit. None have the option to disable data because apparently root is needed (and i dont have it). However, tasker has an option to block outgoing connections (through vpn) which has a similar effect on screen off, without root. So i am testing it.

The only thing i am missing is to put a timer. I dont want all connections to die immediately after screen is off. Is it possible to say, block connections 10 minutes after screen is off? I did not find this option in tasker, but maybe there is a way to do it.

Another thing i want to do, is to keep connections alive when the charger is connected, even if screen is off (for example at night when downloading updates in my sleep, with the charger connected).

Do you have any idea if this is doable?

cheers
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] SkyboneNoya:
Yes try use the Wait task under *Task in Action Category when editing your profile in Tasker.

It will wait however long you set it to finish the rest of the profiles tasks. Although I'm not sure if this will take more battery?

You can also set up a new profile from * State / Power / AC example: keep data / sync on etc etc and use if statements also for alternative options as seen in my screenshot.

Sorry if the image is huge I uploaded it from XDA Labs app.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] albireox:
My battery life is pretty terrible. It loses around 7-8% at night even if the "ultra battery" is enabled (so no data connection active). Can't figure out if it's an app problem or the Huawei messed it with this one. I have the Mate 10 L29 with the 126 build.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Same here, have been using this phone for one week, in the beginning the standby drain was about 1% hours which was "acceptable" but suddenly yesterday I lost 20% in 5 hours..

This is with all stuff on (GPS, sync, dual sim, wifi etc. the way i use on every phone)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
Wait a bit. Phone and NPU have to adapt at your habits.

Moreover, if you have bad signal where you live and with all on, don't be surprised.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] albireox:
It seems a little strange to me that other phones that don't have this "NPU" don't have these battery draining issues.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
Wait a bit or wait an update what is your firmware?

I have incredible battery's life on 127-C432
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] albireox:
L29 C636 with 126 build.

You're on the Pro so the battery should be better because of the amoled screen. But I'm more concerned about the standby battery draining.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
Yes sure.

Don't know about mate 10.

Do you have bloat installed?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] albireox:
No bloat. About 30 apps installed but none of them caused issues on other phones I had.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
Post your battery consumption settings please
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] albireox:
Will do this in the evening. I've just charged the phone. No obvious power eater, aside from Google Play Services.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
Ok

Wait your feedback.

Cheers
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Brutos08:
Is your phone going to sleep I use to lose battery at night and the phone wasn't going to sleep also do you use Launch to restrict apps that can run in the background
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
According to gsam phone was deep sleeping (for about 4h) but still battery is draining..

I just found out that the draining happens when I'm connected to wifi.

When turning of wifi (but connected to 4G) the standby drain is much better (around 0.6% h)

Perhaps a Huawei soc problem?

Never had this problem on phone using snapdragon soc..
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Brutos08:
Yep I have the same on wifi so I set the phone to turn of WiFi automatically when screen is off. I go bed with say 80% and wake up with the same or 1% less
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Bromsoket:
Yes that's a workaround but it should not be like that, phone deep sleeping but still draining the battery..

Perhaps som incompatibilities with my router?

I don't know but I've never experienced this before, I have always had wifi always on on my previous phones...
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mohamad Gahed:
If anyone is facing huge Google play services drain the solution is very simple

Just clear the cash and data of Google play service and let it be updated again and it will work as it should.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] G0bl1n:
What is interesting AccuBattery app reports measured battery capacity as approx. 3750mA, not 4000. On my previous Huawei Mate 9 it would report much closer to the claimed 4000mA
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] WDawn:
I can confirm that turning off wifi while the phone is sleeping improves battery life (good 4g reception though)

130 apps installed, everything on, i lose about 3 percent in 8 hours of sleep.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
i loose 3% with wifi on aswell.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] SkyboneNoya:
Crazy. I didn't lose a percent over 6 hours idle with new update and everything on. ALP - L29 8.0.0.128 (C636) few min sot posting this.

Think I could have gone 8 hours maybe. Lol dog woke me up..
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
100 - 20 % !

26 Std without charging

6Std 33min Display on time.

(this night my phone lost 10% in the night - but im okey with this because batterylife is awesome)

and i think the ki needs some time to calibrate.

so i will do a check next week again from 100-20%!

For now i will charge only 90-20% ;) its better for accu
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
You don't charge until 100%? In fact I read it's better but is it really better for battery guys?

I always charged when I am at 30 - 40 % until 100.

Is it wrong?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
in fact you shouldnt charge till 100% yes. and you shouldnt charge if you above 50%.

best is from 20% - 90 %

thats why your phoneled is allready green after 90% and the last 10% are much slower.

Trust me on this one man. You batterylife is much longer this way!

there was a batterystduy from a universaty that only handles batterys.

Just google it, you will find 100 tests and reports that you should only charge from 20-90%.

I can search links if you want, but they will be in german.
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] lawtq:
In fact it's up to 80% you should only go to. But as life is too short and how many years do people really keep phones, I'm charging to any percentage I want cause next year I'll have the mate 11
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] sonydesouza:
Ok thanks for information dude ?

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Not false ?
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
you are right, in both ways. 90 works for me fine so ill do this :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Guides, News, & Discussion] elviss0812345:
Guys am i doing something wrong ? Mate 10 Pro BLA-L09 Lte/Wifi ON, screen brightness is about 35-40%

https://imgur.com/6t5mGiX