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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] xiong77:
What do we use to flash back to nougat?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
Lgup and a nougat kdz
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] pre4speed:
Idk, just seems like things are not as they should be with this phone. I can't forward google+ posts, it crashes, in Waze, when I try to push the bar to find alternate routes, it opens and immediately closes that page, I have to swipe up to use that, then when I either accept an alternate, or close that page, it then won't let me report any hazards. I have to close it, force close it, then open again. Reading anything, whether it be in the browser, Twitter, FB, Google+, if I open an article to read then press the back button, the app will return to the top and I'll lose wherever I was. Frustrating as all heck.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gamesoul Master:
Definitely issues that seem mostly unique to your device. If you've tried both upgrading the firmware/software and factory resetting the phone, I can't think of anything that would cause such issues, unless you have a rogue app or apps conflicting that are somehow causing your issues.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] pre4speed:
I agree. I factory rest the original phone, still happened. Swapped out the device, fresh install, downloaded all apps via playstore, still happens. Completely updated software, still happens. I originally thought it could have been my LG backup from my rooted V20 that I restored on nonrooted V30, but still happens with fresh install. That's why I'm thinking to go back to Nougat and try that. You'd think that a nonrooted device would be flawless and just work. Never had any issues like this on my rooted V20.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Something about you setup has to be wrong for this to happen with two separate V30.

You need to find out which app is causing conflict.

You haven't removed anything with ADB or used over of those package disabler apps, have you?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] pre4speed:
Nope, only disabled some Google apps, Chrome (can't stand that slow bloated browser), McAfee. I agree it's gotta be something, but thought redownloading from play store would have wiped out anything. First phone was location issues also. That is fixed on this one. I really need to go back to Nougat and see if the problems persist, I just don't have time to spare to setup again lol
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattgyver:
Is Google backing up your data? When you download from the play store, and it sees app backups, it will reload them onto the device. It's worked surprisingly well on the v30, even when I didn't want it to! Never worked like that with my Galaxy S4 or op5..
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Yes, they do backup app data to your Google account, but only for apps that support it, and only the data which each app chooses to backup. It's not like Titanium or Helium or LG Bridge which backup all data for the apps you select.

You can control the feature in Settings under Backup & Reset.

Edit: Sorry, I misread the context (which I should have understood before posting). Just ignore this post.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] pre4speed:
Didn't even think about that! Lol. Even if I were to manually go down a fresh copy from play store? What about saving just the apk for the apps and sideloading? Thanks for reminding me that with Google, you never lose a phone number OR app data lol
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] cato1986:
2nd v30 after the first had issues with the digitizer and voice to text issues getting bad. Now this one has the same voice to text issue. I hope all is going well with root progress. I will never buy a phone before checking xda again first. You guys have always done great work and made phones better. Thanks guys.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] cato1986:
Any news?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gamesoul Master:
Nope. Still waiting on the V20 Oreo release.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] kr1shna:
Due on 7th September.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Interesting exchange, waiting for possible proof:

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/help/lg-v30-us998-t-mobile-t3823021
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
I'm keeping close tabs on this as well. Other than overwriting EFS, it seems like way too much work, if at all possible

[MENTION=4360019]vinniej[/MENTION] did you have any work on this or can confirm?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] igotroot:
And to think TMO actually pulled off helping to create a non rootable V30+.....OMG.

In all my years since the HTC Evo I have never owned a phone that didn't have root, until the H932. ?????
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ClockworkImpulse:
Running has an exploit. It's just he's waiting for the LG v20 to get Oreo so they don't patch it before then. Be patient or hope someone comes out with one sooner. Which could be a possibility. But worse case its only one more month.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Arcide:
They might read these forums, and after seeing that someone has an exploit they will never release the update lol.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
That may already be the case, and could be a contributing factor in the delay of Oreo on V20. For awhile it even looked to be a factor in the delay of Oreo on H932 as well.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] igotroot:
Well I guarantee you one thing, the next phone that I will be buying will most likely be a Samsung product because those guys tend to have root on their phones more consistently than we LG owners.

I like what LG has to offer, and to be honest with you the lgv30 plus is the best smartphone I have ever owned. Even without Root I find my phone to be very efficient, powerful, and offers a great audio sound which I play my music on through the headphone jack. I am very much into high-quality sound and I do not know what the sound quality is like on a product like the Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
As an S9 Plus and a V30+ owner. There are two things the V30 has over the S9 Plus hands down. The quad-DAC with my Sennheiser HD598C's and the wide-angle camera! Samsung's variable shutter is somewhat of a half gimmick and half function. The sound quality of the headphone jack on the S9 Plus with my Sennhieser HD598C's is so much of a contrast, that I won't even use my headphones on my S9 Plus at all because it just isn't close to sounding as great as the V30's quad-DAC. You can't beat the OLED's on current Samsung devices either. The V30's pOLED is pure trash at best. The G7's mLCD is vastly superior to the V30's pOLED in every single way!

The Galaxy X or S10 though is supposed to bring a wing-angle camera to the Galaxy line, finally! The last couple of generations of Samsung devices are also very easy to cross-flash with modded ODIN right out of the box without unlocking the bootloader.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Dang. It looks fantastic to me. And I have a S8+ and a Note 8. It's not better than those two but it is certainly not "pure trash", lol!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Well... I am a little hard on LG for their lack of quality control. The display lottery with LG is unacceptable! If you happen to get a decent panel that doesn't have uniformity issues, then the panel is decent. Not Samsung decent but not bad by comparison. Either you got really lucky with your display or you might need to see an eye doctor about your vision loss. :P
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Then I got very lucky with five with no issues. ;)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
You have mentioned before that your standards for no issues in comparison to others are very different. Personally, my recommendation is that you see an Optometrist immediately. Needing such a high level of brightness all of the time seems unusual.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
70% isn't unusual, when the display goes to 100%. Unusually low brightness negates the OLED vibrancy.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I don't find an issue with the vibrancy on my H933. It's the fact that half of the panel is darker than the other by about 20% that is. All of our eyes are different. I really wish I could enjoy my H933 as much as you enjoy your devices. My H932 is great! LG needs to get consistency down on a higher quality scale to literally be competitive on the top tier. With Huawei and Samsung in very dominating positions right now. LG needs to up their game! The V30 is a great drive and I personally like my H932 more than my S9 Plus for the camera, sound quality, and the aesthetics of the device. That said, LG is on track for another loss in their mobile division. You can't fault the consumer based on the numbers.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] cato1986:
Back on topic. What's the latest?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattgyver:
There is no "latest". Until Runningnak3d gets Oreo on his v20 (not released yet), and he's got it rooted, he won't release anything for us. Be patient, it'll happen.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] cato1986:
My point is to stay on topic. Thanks
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
Just to be clear, I have an H910 (AT&T) and several H918s (T-Mobile). I can make the F800 firmware work on the H910 (same RSA key), so I am only waiting on the H918 since like the H932, it is the odd man out of the V20s (different RSA key).

As soon as H918 Oreo drops, and I have it flashed, I will post what I have.

I don't so much care about running Oreo, but I want the firmware and drivers so I can start working on Pie for the V20. Much easier to use one rev old firmware / drivers to get an unsupported version working than a two rev old version ;)

-- Brian
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] el.quechon:
Honestly i hope we can get root because i dont like the notch devices are coming with for that reason this phone is a big time keeper btw thanks for the hard work
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Unblessed Be:
Just FYI, you are beautiful person and we love you very much for your great work
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Albinoman:
Wait can't you already unlock the H918? https://forum-xda--developers-com.c...ecowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594/page1
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
No. Read the last couple pages of that thread. That method no longer works, depended on Dirty Cow.

https://xdaforums.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594/page155
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Albinoman:
Oh gotcha. Should've read more into the thread first.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] whojabacod:
? But what if oreo NEVER DROPS?? DUN DUN DUN.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
Oreo for the v20 is under the testing phase right now. This is the worst I've ever seen with an update for a one-model older device.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] R800x_user:
That's LG for ya
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] el.quechon:
Maybe they already know we waiting for that update maybe they are patching the hell out of it
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
Its possible but I doubt it, but then again they took out fast boot commands with the MM update on the v10
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] mrkumquat:
V20 Oreo

Just got this in my feed :)

https://www.androidcentral.com/lg-v20-and-q6-now-being-updated-android-80-oreo
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gamesoul Master:
Shh...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattgyver:
We already knew that, though.. the Sprint v20 has been seeing the update. That article didn't let the specific variations, so nothing new yet..
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ewatt99:
This article is pretty long, but just making sure will we get root one day or is tmobile locked down forever? It's fine if it takes a little longer but I just wanna be sure that it's possible to get it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
I am working on a much safer procedure based on new information that I have gathered.

Either way, I will not be releasing the: "Holy crap this is dangerous as hell -- if you make one mistake you have bricked your phone" procedure, or the new (hopefully if it works), fairly safe procedure until I have Oreo on my H918.

The latest indication from T-Mobile is that it will be around September 3rd or 4th.

-- Brian
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septembersrain:
Well I have my laparoscopy on September 6th. So I might be rooting a phone in bed on pain meds! LOL

This phone will be a beast if rooted.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] scorpio76r:
Best wishes through recovery. We have alot of really good people with alot of knowledge here. I'm sure that when Oreo drops Runningnak3d is on top of it and, the rest of us as a team here will continue to be good we will all prosper.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] RoxAbout:
sept release of v8.1? for the v30?

or were you referring to your H918 device?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattgyver:
He's referring to his h918/v20. We all are PATIENTLY waiting for TMobile to drop Oreo for the h918 so that [MENTION=3167089]runningnak3d[/MENTION] can work on Pie (9.0). Once they release Oreo, then he'll release his root method. He's already stated that, not to far back. Days, if not a week or less ago.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jsh1972:
Just saw a report on notebookcheck dot net that the Oreo update is rolling out to Korea V20 variant, hoping for root soon for my H932!!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vuzeultra:
Many people including myself already purchased the phone at launch when it was $800-1000. It's not as simple as buying it

on eBay at ~$315. Since I keep my phones for 3 years root is important to me :eek: :rolleyes:
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I hope the T-Mobile H932 gets root one day.

For those not already invested in that specific variant but have TMobile service, I was making a reasonable suggestion to buy the best phone of 2017 at a great price, root it, and use it on T-Mobile.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] rdeets:
I do as well.

And I completely agree with you. That's what I did/am doing, and I already have P on it. Amazing phone once your remove LG's software from the equation.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
Why is everyone acting like this ain't gonna happen all the sudden?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
I've been thinking the same thing. Maybe to users who haven't followed the progress and are just coming into it anew, it seems like "What, no root yet, I guess that means it can't be rooted." After all the back story is a long and arduous one, particularly on Brian's part. And few people read up on such things.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] igotroot:
I agree....considering most other brands of premium phones have already been rooted....and yes, new owners just arriving to these forums probably do feel that, "are you serious, no root yet??!!!", type of feeling.

We just have to realize that (IMHO), T-Mobile simply did not want an LG V30/V30+ rooted coming from its inventory.

On the LG side, they only did what their customer (T-mobile) wanted them to do.....but, the fact that LG even locked out (so to speak), the 600Mhz ability from all other variants of the V30/V30+ worldwide is just SCANDALOUS (in the tone that Prince sings the song) :laugh:
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
We keep having to educate people that T-Mobile stopped being "dev friendly" a while back. When I say that, they try to bring up phones from 2015 or whatever. Yeah, well that was three years ago. ;) Even 2016 was two years ago.

The early 2017 LG G6 was the wake up call, but some haven't kept up with current "developments" ( in more ways than one). Many stay focused on their current (older) phone, then are shocked and in denial. "I can unlock the bootloader! Why can't I root?"
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] igotroot:
Exaaaaaaaaaaaaaactly !
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bobdoledonneeddis:
I'm guessing that it's not coincidental that they got more restrictive around the same time that Google started paying search royalties to providers. Rooting would make it impossible to do the tracking necessary to get paid, because we could scrub all of the native T-Mobile apps from the device.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] el.quechon:
Hell yea we will!!! :D
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Fortunately we can scrub these apps from our phones using ADB, even without root. Several threads about that, such as this one:

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/how-to/apps-to-debloat-root-t3746391
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] joeygee23:
Anyone else popping in hoping.. Wishing.... Praying.... Lol!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] deadlyquirk:
According to tmobile Oreo on the h918 should be dropping today. Here's hoping Brian gets us root soon.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] zrzhu:
Today? Hope Tmo will do it. Can't wait to get root on my v30.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattgyver:
Knowing how tech manufacturers are, I'll believe it when I see it.....
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
In with you on that but it doesn't affect me really. Also, the freaking G5 in Mexico got Oreo already ?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattgyver:
Oh, doesn't affect me either. I mean, sure, I'm one of many waiting for [MENTION=3167089]runningnak3d[/MENTION] to get Oreo on his v20 so I can get root on my v30. Really, though, I deal with enough manufacturers as tech support that I know the way they are....

Also, that's funny, about the g5.... I wonder what bugs will surface first..
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] QkTreasures:
Hey guys following here but I also had a question so on my LG H932 my wife took the 8.0 Oreo update but I am holding out on 7.0 Nougat because I thought if I ever wanted root it that it might be better off not taking OTA update?

Am I thinking correctly or should I just take the 8.0 Oreo update to get the new bells/whistles? I also have a LG H918 on 7.0 Nougat that I know can be rotted now but am I also better off waiting on that too since TMO is dropping Oreo soon for it? I really only want root so I can get unlimited WiFi Tether hotspot on both devices. Thank you very much & have a wonderful day!! ?

All the best,

Ron.

---------- Post added at 10:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 AM ----------

Me too as I have a LG H918 & H932
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Several members confirmed that the Oreo update is still ARB 0, starting with [MENTION=4718504]Addiso[/MENTION]'s post linked below. So you should be able to roll back to Nougat if need be.

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/how-to/progress-root-twrp-roms-achieved-t3690577/post76933965

I had stayed on Nougat as well for the same reason, but LG updated my phone when it was in for repair. Nougat was definitely faster for me, and I can't really think of any major benefits to Oreo. There may be a few I'd notice if I rolled back, but I doubt any significant ones. Security updates, of course.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Oreo has better camera, especially Bright mode for low light pics.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Oh yeah, right, the camera. Thank you!

Personally I shot great pictures with Nougat, but since the Oreo update I've had a hard time making the camera do what I want and get good shots. However I know that's not consensus.

During a recent trip overseas, my wife ended up taking most of the pictures that were keepers. I'm just not a great with AI, neither in my camera nor in most other applications. They're too dumb, if you ask me, and more often in my way than they're any help.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
It's funny how the tables turned. T-Mobile used to be the go to carrier here on xda when people wanted an u locked bootloader and root. And that was the only reason why I'd switched to T-Mobile 4 years ago. Now, it's the most locked down carrier. So frustrating, you pay for your device and you still can't do whatever you want with it. I just want greenify and Xposed for V30's sake. We can only hope. lol
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
I heard that you don't need greenify anymore cause nougat and above do a very good job of doing the same thing greenify does.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Well, that's good news. I still use it. There are apps that still run in the background. I don't know, man. Just miss my root. lol
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
I know, we all feel the same way. I went ahead and got a Z2Force a couple months ago for that reason. If we can root phones in the future, it gets really complicated with with the seamless updates with the A B slots and OEM partition. It's super confusing
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
Man, I don't know about all of that cause att and Verizon are much, much worse. I'm using the Moto z2 force right now and only the Sprint and T-Mobile ones are unlocked. Verizon and att are locked down super tight. I don't think there's a phone on either att or Verizon that has unlockable boot.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Any other T-Mobile-branded 2017 or even 2018 alleged "flagship" phones than the Moto Z2 Force (which doesn't have 3.5mm headset jack nor built-in Qi wireless charging) that can be rooted (without an exploit)? Or it's the exception?

I thought they cleared the decks after the 2016 phones. Guess they forgot one...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
Honestly, I don't know. I only picked it up cause it was 325 bucks and can be rooted. I'd hardly call the Z2Force a flagship but its Moto flagship the same specs as the v30 but buggy as hell and wasn't selling so they lowered the price.

Moto uses the same method of boot unlock as the new LG and htc style. All fastboot commands are there as well.

Anyone notice how the more custs Tmo gets, the more they are acting just like Att?

[MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] I really wonder if the One+6t that's coming to TMobile in October will be unlocked. That will prove everyone once and for all cause they are unlocked everywhere else so if the boot is locked, then that will be tmos doing
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Yes but everyone knows my hatred of OnePlus. No QHD 1440p, no IP rating whatsoever, no Qi wireless charging. I don't consider them a premium phone.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
Well I didn't know that about them at all either. Wow. I've never owned one and guess I won't now either. I never trust Chinese made phones anyway cause of backdoors

I'll be sticking with the v30 for a long time cause it'll have root and I should get to choose to do whatever I want the things I buy just like any other damn product out there.

I've already got a bootable SD card ready (should be anyway) but can't figure lglaf out cause it shows every other partition as "unknown" so backing up and restoring TZ partition as Brian said on here is impossible without knowing where it is and I don't know why.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattgyver:
I had a OnePlus 5. Sold it and got the v30. Not upset with that decision..
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vuzeultra:
This is so true. But Honestly I'm going to equally blame LG in this situation. Carriers suck to begin with. Samsung and probably every other company has the unlocked model available day 1. I wanted the unlocked variant! but since I already waited 6 months since the unveiling I couldn't wait another 2 months(and was only in speculation), I went with T-Mobile for the reasons you said. Wow was I wrong, and I don't even have T-Mobile, so I had to buy in full on a 1 month plan, and later unlock it which was a 2 month hassle due to T-Mobiles unlocking system(don't even get me started about that). I spent so much and got screwed again and again. Then there were all the screen issues... I'm really turned off by LG at this point. I still love my v30 to death, but it's been such a hassle since it's unveiling event