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[Nexus 6  General] tjxddt:
I preorder a pixel 2 XL during October 4th event, have been using 2 XL for 2 days now.

Really good battery life : at least 24h battery life with about 8h Screen on time.

Blazing fast: On the latest Oreo, everything is smooth and fast. No stutter whatsoever.

Stupidly great camera: everything photo looks like shot by professional camera.

Squeeze is fun: l start to love to squeeze the phone to launch Google assistant.

I really want to say I love the 2XL, but I really can't. I'm hesitating to whether to return 2 XL and move back to Nexus 6 based on the following reasons.

Hardware issue

1. Screen is a deal breaker:. The color are extremely dull, red looks brown and white looks green. And I had noticeable Burn-In on the bottom of screen for less than 15 screen on times within 2 days.

2. Charing is slow: I experienced 2 cycle of charge that took 2h 30m from 0 to 100%, this result has been confirmed by at least four independent sources, including PhoneArena and Youtuber Jerome Ortega.

Personal opinion

1. Screen on 2 XL is smaller than Nexus 6: On paper, both phones have 6 inches screen, but 2XL is 18:9 ratio versus 16:9 on N6. So you have a narrow a screen with smaller viewing area than N6.

2. Speakers are slightly louder than 2 XL

What's your thought? Should I return the 2 XL?
[Nexus 6  General] runekock:
The Pixel 2 XL was moderately bad at the bend test:

[youtube]BVKnt7H4zVc[/youtube]

I like my Nexus 6, but I guess it all comes down to your personal priorities.

Edit: Google says that they are considering a software option for brighter colors.
[Nexus 6  General] tjxddt:
The video you are showing is Pixel 2 made by HTC, not Pixel 2 XL made by LG. They have a very different internal structure.
[Nexus 6  General] shadowcore:
In my opinion, switch to the pixel 2 or just get a samsung if you are bored with nexus 6.

Even though somebody might say otherwise or hate mw for this, do not ever trust LG made stuff.

It is no surprise to mw that the screen is bad and ita made by LG. Their QC is bad and its that for for years.

Might be confirmation bias fallacy though on my part
[Nexus 6  General] Sanabil:
Well Nexus 6 is a great device the AMOLED panel with the stereo speakers , not to mention has also wireless charging. Am currently using it as my DD.

But obviously pixel 2 xl has all the latest specs . Personally I will pass on this year's pixel 2 as it's not a compelling phone features wise. I am running Oreo six rom atm. It's fun flashing and using it but yeah at times Shamu can lag or feel slow due apps now being more demanding.
[Nexus 6  General] runekock:
Oops, sorry about that.

As to burn-in, this comment indicates that it isn't permanent:

https://disqus.com/by/xda-c75a8b67d7bb88f3595e8738de86ae2b/?
[Nexus 6  General] dgm_mixtoon:
Nexus 6 is good, but only bad is the camera with 30FPS.... No 720p at 60fps ,1080p at 60FPS, no mods ,nothing!
[Nexus 6  General] turbo23:
Mine does 4K video on back camera...pretty good for an old Motorola.
[Nexus 6  General] DDQW:
you do realize, that LG is one of the largest IPS Panel manufacturers and pretty much every ips panel on any phone is made by LG?

Also pretty much every high end ips monitor (ah-ips at the moment) also has a panel produced by LG.

So i am pretty sure many many people here are using LG Panels without knowing it is from LG and without any problems
[Nexus 6  General] shadowcore:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/77m8uv/pixel_2_display_megathread_poll/donkcbx/
[Nexus 6  General] dictionary:
You completely missed what they were talking about. He's saying that a lot of the things we use these days use LG panels, and we don't have any issues. By you saying to never trust LG, means you aren't going to be using a lot of tech.
[Nexus 6  General] EternalFlame:
IDK man, i read a lot comments the past few weeks that most of us wants the N6 just with newer specs back, and i think the N6 is the greatest and best looking phone on the planet. Heck if i had the budget i would found a company that builds just the N6 in different sizes (5" , 5.5" and the classic 6") with the newest specs and whatnot, just for the sake of it lel.
[Nexus 6  General] tjxddt:
Thank you for your detailed reply.

Due to the burn in/ image retention, google has offer me to replace my 2 xl. So I move back on the old N6. To be honest, the moment I move back, I starts to remember why I switched at the first place.

I agree that 2 XL despite the obvious screen problem, is THE best phone you can get this year.

I'll keep this thread posted once I get my hands on the 2nd 2 XL unit.
[Nexus 6  General] Gysper:
Buyers remorse is just something we'll all need to make at some point. I've had my N6 for more than two years, which is longer than any phone I've owned. Thought about replacing it at some point but the N6 has never failed me. No problems at all.

Unless you need something that faster, better camera, better battery then yes, the N6 has these flaws but the build quality still lives up to 2017. I believe the next phones that are in line would be the rumored OnePlus 5T or the Galaxy S9 which is rumored to come out earlier to combat the iPhone X. So if you can hold on until next year you can decide between the S9 while the Pixel 2 may have its quality control fixed by then.
[Nexus 6  General] luciusfox:
So zero quality chinese "oneplus", or a worse than zero quality (intentionally crippled) samdung? You aren't exactly proposing any compelling alternatives.
[Nexus 6  General] Mega Montana:
LOL the screen burn in on the N6 is way worse than the XL2, so that's a very flawed reason for keeping that whale. I agree it's a fantastic device, but it's amazing you even care about screen burn in after using the N6 for that long
[Nexus 6  General] Gysper:
Well I never said they were better, but every single Pixel device has its share of problems. At least Samsung showed its promise with its quality control video after the Note 7 fiasco. Haven't heard any issues with the S8 or the Note 8.
[Nexus 6  General] luciusfox:
That's a pretty bold and unsubstantiated claim. Sounds like you're just trying to convince yourself against one.

Yeah, because if its in a video, it must be true.

You probably didn't hear about any problems because they're paying people off like they did at the start of the Timb Bomb 7 problem.
[Nexus 6  General] Gysper:
Not going to argue here because were going a bit off topic here, but the point was that the OP should consider other devices if they weren't satisfied.

Now unlike some companies that make mistakes, at least they acknowledge improving their products. Seems to be the opposite for Google, we all enjoy the N6 and the Pixel 2 stuff convinced us that quality control is a step back.

EDIT: Google must of listened but they issued this statement about the issues

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/phone-by-google/FRyoLZZjXvo
[Nexus 6  General] Guyinlaca:
I loved my Nexus 6 but replaced it with a Galaxy Note 5 and now a Galaxy Note 8. The Note 8 is the closest thing to a perfect phone I've used, but I am intrigued by the fluidity of stock Android on the Pixel 2 XL.

As much as I loved the huge 16:9 screen on the Nexus 6 and the custom ROMs etc, the battery eventually weakened, the screen developed burn in and discoloration, and the software began to slow down. I could try to bring new life to it (again) through a new ROM and custom kernel, but Oreo ROMs for the N6 seem to be buggy so far, and many developers seem to have moved on. Even if I put in the work, will the weak battery be an Achilles heel?

If the screen is the most important, go with a Note 8 and install Google's Dialer, contacts, keyboard, messages, calculator, calendar apps. Paired with Nova, and Dark Pixel theme, it feels close to stock and is quite fast. If the latest updates are your concern, stock with the Pixel 2 XL. Google's new 2 year warranty for the Pixel 2 line should give some peace of mind.
[Nexus 6  General] runekock:
Actually, the Oreo roms mostly get good reviews from their users. The major problem seems to be some special Bluetooth use cases.

At least half a dozen devs are building Oreo roms for the Nexus, though I've only spotted one (Elektroschmock) doing device specific work right now. But even older phones often attract new developers, so I'm not worried.

The battery can of course be replaced.
[Nexus 6  General] luciusfox:
They already said ALL of that.

I am now more convinced than ever that YOU are trying your hardest to talk yourself away from it.

I haven't seen *ANY* suggestion that there are any quality issues with these devices, and nothing you've suggested contradicts that.

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Bluetooth, also the fact that mobile data randomly disconnects and won't reconnect. That's a pretty nasty problem.
[Nexus 6  General] Gysper:
[MENTION=8472040]luciusfox[/MENTION]

Dude, the thing was posted yesterday. I never said anything bad about the device, I just looking out for the OP's concerns.

BTW I think you're trying to convince me that there's clearly nothing wrong with it, good for you. Now if you spent good money on something and it turned out there was something wrong with it, then you would want to know if a company spoke up about it. There's the link.....

Now you can butt heads, scream shout, do all you want to contradict someone's opinion, but for the love of god please don't turn this into a drama show.
[Nexus 6  General] HueyT:
SamDung phones are so locked down that I refuse to buy one. Cracked 2 Nexus 6 screens and now bought my 3rd minty fresh Nexus 6 :)
[Nexus 6  General] shadowcore:
Except burn in for a 1000 euro device is funny.

I bought the n6 for 350 euro.

Im not sure about others, but ihave seen how thw smartphone business has become more and more expensive with basically no real quality of life improvments.

Believe it or not, i would rather buy a nexus 6 with updated specs than a pixel, galaxy, iphone, or oneplus.

Because, ironically, all of these new devices arent even real upgrades.

Losing the 3.5 mm headphone port/jack for a dongle.

Smaller display estate.

Useless screen formats like18:9 or else.

Smaller or same batteries.

Higher prices to keep profit margins.

Everthing else was there.. Not sure abput those that likw pixel, but i would rather not be bothered with paying 1000 for a smartphone with LESS features.
[Nexus 6  General] Mega Montana:
Throw in a 2 year warranty now by Google and this is a non issue. I guess if you really didn't want it anyway, it's as good as any other excuse for you. GL continuing to use that killer whale
[Nexus 6  General] shadowcore:
Warranty is supppsed to sway customers into buying a bad prosuct with a high price tag? Lmao

Im not sure you know, but mosr of us here use custom roms and tinker. Warranty doesnt cover that, and googlw warranty doesnt work in places where there is no google.

Edit:

Nobody buys a produxt knowing it will fail and be at thw mercy of the ones selling it.

Do try harder. Also, we are debating here. Pixel is objectively worse than our device.

Also, im not sure why you are here.

I would upgrade to any other thing, which the same specs and custom rom support as thw n6.

The pixel is not that phone. Its a. Iphone clone with android makeup.
[Nexus 6  General] Mega Montana:
LMAO you ain't got the $. Tell yourself whatever you need to. Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about, your opinion matters only to you and just because you or a couple other people share a similar opinion, don't make it fact Buy it, don't buy it, who gives a chit. I'm not sure you know this or not, but most of us here don't care what you think. Nice day to you
[Nexus 6  General] luciusfox:
I looked at your link, yes, dated YESTERDAY.

Google said ALL of those things LAST WEEK.

I couldn't care less if you bought a pixel, or a rock. Why are you even here?

Whatever you end up with, I suggest you not throw it at windows, because that could land you in jail.
[Nexus 6  General] shadowcore:
I know you are trolling, because i dont believe someone as stupid as you knows how to breathe.

The pixel is just not a good cost/features resolution.

There are a bunch of reddit threads that have some very sound explanations.

In essence, most people do not have money to throw 1000 euro/dollars and thats alright. What i am interested, is where do devs go.

I have seen a bunch of devs leaving for the oneplus and the pixel.

Neither of these strike me as convincing options.
[Nexus 6  General] Gysper:
Ahh, did I hurt your feelings when I said OnePlus and Samsung in one sentence?

Hey, I'm not against any company that delivers a product. But clearly, someone has favoritism.

In fact, I think the Pixel 2 is a fantastic device, I would buy one but when you do your research, then you'll know what's happening.

I'm here because the OP had a concern, I simply stated my comments. Then comrade bigmouth here decides to use the power of the internet to blow away some steam. Now if you told me they said all those things last week, well you didn't even read what they said. Hint: So the two-year warranty all part of the plan...

So that's it, I'm done. Good luck OP and hopefully your P2 replacement isn't as bad as last time.
[Nexus 6  General] luciusfox:
The launch price of the N6 was $650/$700 US, for 32 or 64 GB.

The p2xl is at $850/$950 US for 64/128 GB.

And interestingly, the p2 (5") is at $650/$750 for 64/128GB. So twice the storage in exchange for a smaller screen when you compare the $650 P2 against the $650 N6.

So not nearly the same difference as you suggest.

The N6 was a bloody expensive phone for 2014.

It certainly wasn't "350 euro".

I think you missed the memo... because the P2XL **IS** the updated Nexus 6.

Huh?

So Snapdragon 835 isn't a better CPU than a Snapdragon 805?

I can't speak for everybody obviously, but I've never once EVER plugged a headphone into ANY cell phone.

EVER.

So good riddance to the dirty water injection port.

You split the same complaint into two lines. So lets call that ONE semi-legit complaint.

I'm going to actually reserve judgement on this particular point until I've had at least a few days with mine in my hand (which I'm supposed to have in 2 weeks). The overall size I couldn't care less about, I'm just marginally concerned that the 1/4" loss in width might make the OSK to hard to manage.

???

N6: 3200 mAh.

P2XL: 3520 mAh.

Not sure where you learned about numbers, but 3520 is bigger than 3200.

Combine that with the fact that the hardware will consume VERY SIGNIFICANTLY LESS power to accomplish the same amount of work (take the pixel visual core for instance -- 90% less power for hdr than doing it on the CPU, and the CPU itself is on 10 nm process instead of 28 nm, which means that it is FAR FAR more efficient). Basically, you can think of the 3520 in the P2XL as being roughly equivalent to having a... 5000 mAh battery in a N6.

Prices addressed above. Not as big of a difference as you are pretending it to be.

The only "feature" its missing, is wireless charging. I'll miss that, but all the NEW features that you are too blind to see, will surely make up for it.

And if not, then there is always this; https://www.amazon.com/Version-Wireless-Charging-Receiver-Nillkin/dp/B06Y5FDXD4

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Bye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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Yeah, because reddit isn't just a swarm if iTards....
[Nexus 6  General] Mega Montana:
Yes, Reddit threads told you so...nice way to add credibility to your unbiased opinion by starting out your reply like that too. You should stay over there and not post in XDA if your psyche is too fragile to handle someone who disagrees with your opinion, without responding like a child and start lobbing personal insults. You're story is full of BS anyway, hope your psyche feels better about yourself now.
[Nexus 6  General] shadowcore:
So lets do some babysitting here. It feels like 4chan lmao.

The nexus 6 only compares to the pixel 2 xl or the pixel xl because of size.

And as your point out, the Pixel XL is 200$ more expensive at base price.. The pixel XL is not EVEN available at Amazon. de, where I bought my nexus, just the normal Pixel.

It was expensive, and as you can see now, the XL and XL 2 are even MORE expensive. lol

According to https://www.cnet.com/products/google-pixel-xl/preview/

The XL was roughly 750$ at launch. Not sure if you can count, but thats about 100$ more than the nexus 6 launch price.

Why the increase in price? Who knows! lol

Yes, yes it is.

Upgrade is a broad term. Just a few performance numbers and a new SoC do not constitute as a clear upgrade, especially with the smaller display and lacking things like wireless charging.

Its more like a sidegrade,

GOOD FOR YOUUUU!

Now tell me, hows life with the dongle! Ugh, I feel just dirty using that word! lol

Tell me, can you both charge and listen to music or youtube or pod casts? I hear you need bluetooth.

Why couldnt they just plant two USBC ports? But it doesnt matter anyway, because I am not the intended audience for this phone.

Hold on there sherlock.

Smaller screen estate means you can see less stuff and do less stuff with the display.

The retarded display ratio of 18:9 means you will get black bars in videos, when taking pictures or even when playing games.

See above.

Nah, dont worry about that. If google is smart, which they arent(LG POLED display duh), they will probably enable features where you wont need the top part of the display. Gestures are other commands can help you there.

You dont say? Why couldnt they fit a 4000mah battery? its 2017 and people dont mind thicker phones for more battery. 300mah at this point is hardly an upgrade though.

Significantly less is all you had to say. "Very" is redundant.

Yeah, maybe. I would wait before i trust marketing gimmicks.

Sure!

100 more for last years device.

200 more for this years device.

Next year, I bet it will be 300 more or 400.

Just have your fun with your new toy.

I am sure it overcompensates for something, be it your personality or your intelligence.

Actually, generalizing about a group of people is a bad argument. I read a good argument there that, phones are increasing in price because companies have to keep making profit, as sales and the smartphone industry raches its full saturation.

I actually dont care about the price increase, just the lack of features, that fail to justify that price.

There should be a legal age limit to start using smartphones.
[Nexus 6  General] Zaprz:
I've thought about getting the pixel 2xl, as an upgrade to my N6. I like the google phones, but I really don't care for LG phones. This is due to having to replace my daughters LG phone 4 times. While it was covered under warranty, it was an inconvenience. I really do like my N6, best phone I've ever had, but I know it's going to need replaced eventually. I just hope it holds out long enough until suitable replacement is out there. I like the wireless charging the most, out of all of the features they have done away with, it saves the usb port from getting all screwed up. After 2+ years, my battery still lasts all day, not heavy use but in a poor signal area where I work. I haven't experienced the burn in a lot of people have talked about. My screen is just as bright and clear as the day I bought it. If something were to happen to my N6, I would probably end up with a pixel 2xl. How happy I would be with it is the question.
[Nexus 6  General] Declan79:
I'm also considered to replace my N6 with LG V20? Why nobody considered this machine?
[Nexus 6  General] shadowcore:
While it has nice specs, it has issues with LG being LG.

https://xdaforums.com/v20/help/lg-v20-worth-buy-t3695170

https://xdaforums.com/v20/help/rooted-how-t3687209

No custom roms, probably because LG refuses to release drivers for the device. Rooting seems like a hige hassle. Reminds me off optimus4x hd.

Just head over to v20 forums. You will find that it is a barren wasteland compared to shamu rom support.

If you dont care about that, be very careful when you buy LGs.

I have been burned once by them. They have no software support and depending where you live, zero customer service.

If you wanna switch from shamu, oppo plus 5 and the pixel 2016 or pixel 2017 are options.

Sure smaller screensize with the regular pixel2016,2017 but rom support is bound to be perfect

The xl 2017 seems to be having a lot of buzz about ita screen.

If you want a pixel 2 xl , i suggest wait. Prices will drop, if the current bad display fiasco continues.

Just watchout for that LG QC.
[Nexus 6  General] Declan79:
It's kinda hard to find in my country, but let see near the future

Thanks mate
[Nexus 6  General] AsuraDas:
Rocking the small HTC Pixel 2, I have bought many LG phones and seems like with the exception of the Nexus 4&5. I had issues with them. I like liked the G6 it was buggy and surprisingly less reliable than the G5.

I still have my Shamu debating selling it or using it as a nano tablet. It's real solid I replaced it with a new LCD(was cracked) and put in a newer battery. Broke Qi charging debating if I want to fix that as well. There are certainly better phones 3 years later but I believe the Nexus was the best phone I bought relative to year I bought it
[Nexus 6  General] almahix:
I bought a Pixel XL 2 and though it was a great phone, but it really didn't offer anything the 6 didn't. It was shiny and new but just not worthy of succeeding the 6. I sold it on swappa the same day I bought it, also on swappa. I wrote a post about this earlier today.
[Nexus 6  General] CodadVaill:
I just returned a Pixel 2 XL last night, after less than 2 weeks of use. There were enough little gripes I had with it, that I couldn't justify spending $850 on it. For me, the screen was not too much of an issue once I used the "vibrant" setting (I know, I know..super saturated colors, but that's what I like :D) I really didn't like the light theme, and having to use a dark wallpaper to use the dark theme was annoying. I also couldn't stand the white "fade" at the bottom of the home screen. I know these issues could be sorted out by using a different launcher, but I feel like I should have the choice to change these elements without the need of a third party app.

These weren't really deal breakers on their own. I typically keep my phones stock for the first year or so, then play around with custom roms until I find what I like. However, the biggest gripe I had and why I returned the phone was the built in speakers. Almost every time I was on a phone call, the top speaker would crackle a little bit in my ear. Same issue when I played any kind of media without headphones. Music, podcasts, videos...all had an unacceptable level of crackling from the top, and occasionally bottom speaker. This happened at pretty much any volume over 50%. I initially was going to exchange the phone, but after reading that a lot of these phones have this issue, I decided I didn't want to take my chances. I will wait and see what the Pixel 3 looks like..or the next OnePlus phone.

So now I need to decide what rom i want to run on my faithful old shamu. This is my daily driver, so I need something stable that I won't have to fiddle with too much. Is it worth trying out one of the newer Oreo builds? I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts/suggestions.
[Nexus 6  General] ozzmanj1:
I've personally tried a ton of Oreo ROMs and feel they are not there yet. I went back to my favorite custom room so far. Nitro room 7.1.2. Great battery and lots of customization. I don't even want to go to Oreo right now. The 7.1.2 Oreo room is just so nice and fast and lightweight. I use the pico gapps package with it. But from what I have read there are those who are waiting for Oreo for Shamu once all bugs are taken care. I'm not trying to bash the devs here. I'm super grateful for all they do. But seems like there's always a bug or two for the Shamu with Oreo. Biggest problem I had with Oreo was severe battery drain

Anyways. I'll leave it to you which custom room you like whether it's nougat or Oreo ?