yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
First of all, I would like to thank you for taking your time to answer these questions and for your response and cooperation in regards to helping me out.

Secondly i would mention some links where i found the RUU you were talking about. I would say you just have to give it a look and recommend one for me so that i can flash it.

https://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads/P75

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f485/htc-m8-all-model-official-stock-ruu-4-x-x-6-x-x-updated-19-3-2016-a-1940130/

https://xdaforums.com/htc-one-m8/general/htc-one-m8-european-signed-ruu-0p6bimg-t2911563

http://www.carbontesla.com/2015/01/htc-one-m8-4-16-401-10-stock-lollipop-ruu-0p6bimg/

http://forum.frandroid.com/topic/211945-rom-stock-05-12-2015-rom-stock-60940112-kitkat-443-htc-sense-60/

http://www.carbontesla.com/2015/01/one-m8-4-16-401-10-android-5-0-1-lollipop-ota/
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
Recovery Details

Device: One M8

Android: v5.0.1 Lollipop

Version: v4.16.401.10

CIDs: HTC__001, HTC__J15, HTC__E11, HTC__203, HTC__102, HTC__405, HTC__Y13, HTC__A07, HTC__304, HTC__032, HTC__016, HTC__M27, HTC__K18, HTC__002, HTC__A48

Date: 28-01-2015

Build: Stock

Type: Image Binary

File Name: recovery_4.16.401.10.img

MD5 Hash: 78661a189e5df8e7e86bab62272b9c03

Size: 15.7 MB

http://www.carbontesla.com/2015/02/one-m8-4-16-401-10-stock-recovery/
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ckpv5:
3.x -

http://androidruu.com/?developer=M8

You can find 2.x & 3.x here -

https://easy-firmware.com/index.php?a=browse&b=category&id=1160
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ckpv5:
I don't read the whole thread so not sure what is going on here.

If KitKat I suggest 2.22.401.5 from 2nd link.

If still not fix your problem, then try 1.12.401.17 also from 2nd link
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
Neither. I would suggest trying this one:

http://dl10.easy-firmware.com/download.php?ds=133789xtc4c711e0042bc54dc9c3de0d98bc0f5a5a291f240

---------- Post added at 09:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:34 AM ----------

Thanks for taking a look. The OP has no network, after having given his s-off M8 to a "friend" who flashed "something" but we have no idea what (and I don't think the friend does either - and it seems he is not as experienced as he would like to think).

The device is GSM M8, I'm thinking Euro version originally; or at least some other version m8_ul and "converted" to Euro 401 version.

Have you seen issues where the wrong firmware was flashed to the GSM M8, and flashing a lower level (Kitkat) RUU might fix the issue? Similar to the cases we have seen with the CDMA version M8 devices?

---------- Post added at 09:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:38 AM ----------

I appreciate you searching for the RUU, and taking the care to ask before trying anything.

However, just for your education:

The first link is just kernel source, and not a RUU. Won't help in this case. It's not something you can flash/install.

The remaining links either are for Euro Lollipop or Marshmallow RUU. Or Kitkat RUU that is not the Euro one.

Specifically, my thinking (hope) is that flashing a KitKat RUU (for Euro version) will fix the "no network issue". SInce we've seen this work in some instances, for other versions of the M8. No guarantees at all. But it's the best chance we have, in my belief.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ckpv5:
Never come across one. Based on own experience, flashing any GSM firmware (lower or higher than current version) will not brick the radio, only no network service when firmware is too low version than the ROM installed.

Flashing a 2.x KitKat firmware is worth a try. If after 2.x then OTA to 3.x does not fix it, then I guess something to do with broken Sim Tray. Had this experience with M7 that I bought (broken with No Network issue) just to get its motherboard as replacement for my bricked M7.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
Agreed, broken SIM tray is definitely a possible cause of "no network". But since the problem occurred (if I understand the OP properly) right after giving the phone to his friend (to address "laggy" performance), then I suspect software/firmware (something his friend flashed) is the culprit for the "no network" issue. But who knows what his friend did; as the friend seems pretty tight-lipped about what he did to the phone (probably doesn't want to accept responsibility for the network problem). Maybe he physically messed with the SIM tray and damaged it.

---------- Post added at 11:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:30 AM ----------

I'm suspicious whether the friend mistakenly flashed firmware from a CDMA version, or even some file for another device entirely. The friend won't say what he flashed, and seems to not have much clue of what he did (seems like he shouldn't have been messing with the phone in the first place).
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
[MENTION=660462]redpoint73[/MENTION] : Neither. I would suggest trying this one:

http://dl10.easy-firmware.com/downlo...c0f5a5a291f240

The Link says :

File Deleted or Expired. We apologize but the requested file not found, it may be deleted or expired.

No i Don't think the Sim Tray is broken because my Sim card has been detected by it.

[IMG="Sim Card"]http://oi68.tinypic.com/289zfk5.jpg[/IMG]
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
Try this one: http://dl10.easy-firmware.com/download.php?ds=133938xtc0d302a495e7410cc470e929fba487f9eb5808754

Download seems to be working for me.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
I tried it again
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ckpv5:
Go to main link https://easy-firmware.com/index.php?a=browse&b=category&id=1160

Search for 2.22.401.5 and click download it will take you to download page

The filename is 0P6BIMG_M8_UL_K44_SENSE60_MR_HTC_Europe_2.22.401.5_Radio_1.19.21331147A1.09G_20.57.4196.01L_F__signed.zip
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
Don't send me the direct download link.

Send me a full link http://dl10.easy-firmware.com/download.php?ds=134010xtc5ee913d8fe20481846908a11d5edd97a9e76c0c1 like this

When i click on "Start Download Now" a special link get generated for 22 Hours which is available just for my IP Address.

I hope you are getting what i'm tryna say!
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ckpv5:
Just click the "Start Download Now" to download ..

Full link only valid for specific IP, you'll get expired link if using the link for my IP.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
Oh my bad! I'm downloading "RUU_M8_UL_L50_SENSE60_MR_HTC_Europe_4.16.401.10_Radio_1.25.214500021.06G_20.68.4196t.01_F_release_417003_signed.exe"

I waited for this file for almost 2 hours. it took to much time to download. The links are too slow. This file is 78% Downloaded and now after i saw your message i'm about to cancel it. :(
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
Ah, I see what happened there now. I wasn't aware the specific RUU download links were IP specific (not sure why they would even do that). Apologies to the OP for any confusion.

Just to reiterate to the OP, just go to the list of links that ckpv5 supplied, and you will want to try RUU number 2.22.401.5 or 1.12.401.17

Just search the webpage for those version numbers. There is only one RUU with each of those version numbers, so you don't need to worry about downloading the wrong thing.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
I think there is nothing more terrible in this world than waiting. It creates expectations; it builds up fantasies; it puts you on pause. While consciously choosing to wait you pretty much stop yourself from doing anything else.

When the Lord gives and then takes away. Same is the case with my M8 but still its my fault though :(

Anyways just for your knowledge i flashed it with ARU Wizard as i find the other way of flashing boring and i cannot perform those commands successfully.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
One more thing i forgot to add is that i just flashed this RUU "0P6BIMG_M8_UL_K444_SENSE60_MR_HTC_Europe_3.28.401.9_R_Radio_1.22.21331147A1.29G_20.67.4196.01_release_402839_signed.zip"

Not the other one named "RUU_M8_UL_L50_SENSE60_MR_HTC_Europe_4.16.401.10_Radio_1.25.214500021.06G_20.68.4196t.01_F_release_417003_signed.exe"
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
This isn't one of the versions suggested by me or ckpv5. I suppose it doesn't hurt to try. But its the lower level 2.xx and 1.xx RUUs that have the most success fixing the "no network" issue in the cases we've seen.

---------- Post added at 10:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:05 AM ----------

Don't get your hopes up too much. Don't expect a "magic bullet". What we've suggested is certainly worth trying, but no guarantee it will fix your problem!
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
Oh my Lord! I have downloaded and flashed the wrong RUU. :@

Okay let me give it another try.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
As you said

"Don't expect a "magic bullet". "

I flashed both of the RUU you suggested and sadly both of them didn't work for me. :(
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ckpv5:
I still believe it is Sim Tray problem. Your screenshot showing Sim is detected actually is showing the SIM toolkit app. You will still have the app after you remove Sim.

You can try Htc Help app to check your Sim detection to see if it can be detected or not.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
I have shown it to a hardware guy who told me it seems fine from the hardware. When i removed the Sim card the Utility App was gone and when i inserted the Sim card it gave me a message "Preparing sim card" and the Utility App was back there. Where is the HTC Help App?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4yush:
I am facing the same issue. I tried different ROMS still no service. I tried *#*#4636#*#* and turned radio off and on .. it worked once but after few minutes it went and never came back again.. currently on marshmallow GPE.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
Not enough info to be able to help. Do fastboot getvar all, and post the results (delete IMEI and serial number before posting).

Do you mean you tried custom ROMs? Since in most cases, ROM has little or no bearing on network service. Or do you mean stock RUU?

You should describe exactly how the issue started (was it cause by something you did, or just lost signal spontaneously?), what sequence of actions you took, step by step, with exact file names, results of each step, etc.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4yush:
(bootloader) version: 0.5

(bootloader) version-bootloader: 3.19.0.0000

(bootloader) version-baseband: 1.29.214500021.12G

(bootloader) version-cpld: None

(bootloader) version-microp: None

(bootloader) version-main: 6.15.720.2

(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON

(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000

(bootloader) product: m8_ul

(bootloader) platform: hTCBmsm8974

(bootloader) modelid: 0P6B65000

(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__038

(bootloader) battery-status: good

(bootloader) battery-voltage: 0mV

(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic

(bootloader) security: on

(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP

(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT

(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: 205bdca3

(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11

(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0

It just stopped spontaneously, and using custom ROMs not stock RUUs.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
It's hard to help, since you only provided a fraction of the information requested.

I don't know what custom ROMs you tried. So read up on the specific ROM threads, and see if it's a reported issue. Or return to stock ROM, and see if the problem persists.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4yush:
Google play edition only and it used to work there and suddenly it stopped one day.. went back to stock same issue.. It still identifies what carrier I'm using only the network bars dont appear it shows "NO SERVICE"
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
Not sure if it will help, but you can try to flash the firmware 6.15.720.2: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60218734&postcount=5

Since you are s-on, you will need to relock the bootloader, flash the firmware 6.15.720.2 by fastboot RUU mode (flash it twice), then unlock the bootloader again, flash TWRP to the phone, and flash the stock ROM.

A lot to go through, I know. But I don't think your version has an RUU (or at least, not for free) that can re-image the phone in an easier way.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4yush:
Ok.. I'm trying this will update the status..

Edit : Didn't work.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shysoul64:
let me know if you found any solution to the problem. I'm also facing the same issue
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4yush:
I probably think its an hardware issue, does you m8 detect the carrier?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhijin:
Has anybody found a solution to this? I suspect I have the same problem as my airplane mode doesn't shut off but still somehow I am connected to WiFi.

This is my getvar all

(bootloader) version: 0.5

(bootloader) version-bootloader: 3.19.0.0000

(bootloader) version-baseband: 4.0.U605761@60220A

(bootloader) version-cpld: None

(bootloader) version-microp: None

(bootloader) version-main: 6.20.502.5

(bootloader) version-misc: UNKNOWN SHIP S-OFF

(bootloader) serialno: xxxxxxxxx

(bootloader) imei: 35xxxxxxxxxx

(bootloader) imei2: Not Support

(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000

(bootloader) product: m8_ul

(bootloader) platform: hTCBmsm8974

(bootloader) modelid: 0P6B12000d f/e/lc/mbkp s1se=68

x

(bootloader) cidnum: 11111111

(bootloader) battery-status: good

(bootloader) battery-voltage: 0mV

(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic

(bootloader) security: off

(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP

(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT

(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: 205bdca3

(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11

(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0

all: Done!
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] O'seun:
Please help
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] randy_c:
Is there a way to hide the app name on home screen without root?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] ggrant3876:
Not with TW but using alternative launchers that can be accomplished.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] Gr8man001:
Use Nova launcher. If you want to stay with TW launcher, try a free app called awesome icons that allows you to customize your home screen including app names.
[Android Auto General] The 4th Derivative:
I've been using my Pixel 2 XL for a few days now, and I've noticed that when I get a notification on Android Auto (plugged into my 2015 Hyundai Sonata), it completely cuts out the other audio while the notification shows up.

On my Nexus 6, if a notification came in it would put the car's audio into the back speakers, with lowered volume and playing the notification up front. That way I could still hear what was playing and after full audio would be in the front again.

Is there some sort of setting that I'm missing that's different between the two phones? It's pretty annoying listening to the radio and the losing all the audio while a text comes through

Both phones are using Hangouts for texts. The only differences I can tell are the N6 is on Nougat, Pixel 2 XL is on Oreo, and Micro-USB/USB-C
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Themes, Apps, and Mods] dicko101:
I'm not real keen on rooting my Note8 just yet but the only way I know how to change the IME with the Spen is with tasker, Secure settings and root access. Is there a way to get around needing root access to set the IME with secure settings? Orban alternative method? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Themes, Apps, and Mods] DarkStarr:
So I finally figured out how to do this. It requires AutoTools (you also need to give it permission to write secure settings via adb). I'm sure you can configure this in Tasker but since I use Macrodroid, that's what I used.

Configure it to trigger based on an intent, com.samsung.pen.INSERT to be exact. Now in Macrodroid I set this up as 2 macros. For the removal I had it trigger on that intent with the extra of penInsert and a value of false. That means the pen was removed, the the reverse for when it was inserted.

It's the same intent, com.samsung.pen.INSERT and extra of penInsert but with a value of true. Then for each macro I used the AutoTools Secure Settings option then under services it lists input method.

You can then select an input method for each macro, one for when the pen is removed (like Google handwriting) and then when it's reinserted have it swap back to a normal keyboard.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] atakan33:
https://www.ztemobile.de/forums/topic/sicherheitsluecken-im-aktuellen-release/page/2/#post-12012
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] atakan33:
[MENTION=5334294]raystef66[/MENTION] are you ready ?:cool:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] raystef66:
Saw it too... I'm ready as always :laugh:

But it's not the Oreo version as you would like it to be...perhaps it is but at the time ZTE did this statement, ZTE was not sure of O was on track for the next update, who knows... ;)

Anyways they would not call it B08 if it was Oreo but rather A2017G V1.x.0B01 or something like that, don't you think.

Volte and oktober patches sure thing...
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] atakan33:
I hope , this is oreo:fingers-crossed:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ifek:
No OREO in B08 definitely, maybe after they release OREO for USA market?
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChiDi9901:
Where does it say it's Oreo? It's better if you change the title to not confuse people here or or make false claims. Better wait and see what actually is going to come out.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] atakan33:
https://www.ztemobile.de/forums/topic/sicherheitsluecken-im-aktuellen-release/#post-11864[/QUOTE]

are you satisfied:eek:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] xzolteu:
no oreo for axon 7, ever. Maybe for A2017, but for G you can dream
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] atakan33:
why
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChiDi9901:
[/QUOTE]Das Update wird unter anderem den Sicherheitspatch vom 01.Oktober 2017 beinhalten und viele andere Verbesserungen, zu denen wir aktuell keine Auskunft geben, ebenso zum Thema Android 8.[/QUOTE]

Here they only say that they won't talk much about Android 8, so no promises were made other than that the next update will contain the October 2017 patch. Also the other stuff that will come in this update aren't mentioned either, so not even an official changelog has been released.

As I've said, better wait till an official changelog appears.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zobat:
I read at the link you supplied thats it definitely not going to be oreo. So yes, better change the title.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] atakan33:
sorry guys.I just dont understood well
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] joaste:
I suggest changing the title. The next update is not Oreo.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
We are looking forword its been 4 months since last official update for A2017G(German version)

Last was that got OTA was B05.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Spillunke:
Then search for B06. ;)
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
I don't care for B06 since i'm pleased with B05:).

i'll wait B08 IMO since it's around the corner for being released next few hours or days.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
Just got it over OTA.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Lycidias:
Has it MiFavor 5 UI?
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
Didn't install yet since it's quite big file.

640MB size.

I will install it later.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] joaste:
No
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
From anyone wonder the OTA came with B05 already installed at my device.

From B06 there's no OTA.

I can't upload screenshot as Tapatalk don't let me.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nfsmw_gr:
Any changelog available?

Did you notice anything different in B08?
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] [armitage]:
Changelog:
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] paatha13:
Here's throuth desktop browser.

[IMG="OTA screenshot B08"]https://s26.postimg.org/shxa8us3d/Screenshot_2017-10-27-14-45-27.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="OTA screenshot B08"]https://s26.postimg.org/qre97dak9/Screenshot_2017-10-27-14-45-35.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="OTA screenshot B08"]https://s26.postimg.org/ri6zd5cxl/Screenshot_2017-10-27-15-09-05.jpg[/IMG]
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] raystef66:
Uploaded the FOTA B08

Extracted the weblink from logcat and uploaded the FOTA N-B08

https://xdaforums.com/axon-7/how-to/download-a2017g-n-b05-to-b08-fota-t3695484
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jeremy-X:
Hello,

Is the baseband the same one as B06 ? Btw I thought, as a lot of people stated here, that A2017G was not VoLTE capable.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] stando383:
Hello! I have A2017G with stock rom. Right when I bought it (gearbest) I had "Network not available" message when I checked for automatic updates. Now it works but it says there are no new updates. Did ZTE disable OTA updates for A2017G? A lot of people on internet claim there were OTA updates to Android Nougat. I have currently Mi Favor 4.0, version ZTE A2017GV1.0.0B11 which is still Android Marshmallow.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] svsavic:
Do manual update directly to Nougat B08 or 09.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] stando383:
Do you have any clue why they do not provide it via OTA?

Are these B08/B09 Nougat firmwares bug free? I read somewhere they removed some Nougat firmware (not sure which version) from OTA as a lot of people had issues. But maybe the current version is stable. But this is it - too much mystery - why no OTA, is it stable?
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Choose an username...:
No, OTAs don't work because ZTE is a disaster. Just download B09 and install it.

I don't know where you read that thing but the only thing I'm sure of is that these last 4 versions were nearly bug-free. I found zero bugs in B09.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] stando383:
And where the version B09 should be downloaded? I checked german zte website and there is only B08.

Edit: I found it. They claim it is supposed to be used in Nordic countries (https://xdaforums.com/axon-7/how-to/download-a2017g-n-b09-sweden-brand-t3716479).
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Choose an username...:
Use the Download Center. The files are already unzipped and uploaded to androidfilehost.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] svsavic:
There are same bugs in power management nB09 (apps killing in sleep) and monitor.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] stando383:
Is the same issue present in Nougat B08?

Or by completely other words - will there be some benefit when I upgrade from Marshmallow? I know about the security patches in Android, but I would like to avoid having issues in day to day using.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Choose an username...:
That's no bug, you can just go to the power manager and disable app killing while sleep
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mitchelln:
I'm finding battery life is appallingly bad since upgrading from B07. Half the runtime with B08 and B09 :(

I can literally watch the battery percentage drop as I'm using it now.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] stando383:
I upgraded from Marshmallow A2017GV1.0.0B11 to Nougat B08 and I see no major difference related to the battery drain. I even have the feeling it is better now.
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Choose an username...:
Miflash B09 or the latest you can find then...

Use the link on my DFU unbrick guide, it's a thread made by WesTD with the latest EDL packages
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mitchelln:
I am running B09. It's the radio that seems to burn the juice now. Never had a problem before.

Others are reporting this as well. Any suggestions gratefully received!
[ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Choose an username...:
And? I know. MiFlash B09 anyways.