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[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Akinaro:
Jesus Christ its like watching kids crying about other kids that dont want to play with them...

You behave like that update is a matter of life and death to you. Like this update would make your phone brand new, add 10000 and 1 new features and give you 2 weeks of battery life.

Get a fricking life... This is just update, your phone is still the same, and if you would use your eyes and brain you would see that every update from every OEM fix something and mess something and rest is placebo effects. Especially battery life, that because of wipe/new apps look good in the first glance but later you get average time and you realize that difference is bellow 5%...

Not to mention that source is some german blog that have nothing to do with Huawei, I can find for you few post about P9 not getting EMUI 5.0 and oh wait... we have it...

And seriously stop that nonsense about not buying from some company ever again. Its like buying LG dishwasher that turn to work good but not so fast as it in reviews, and after that you state that you NEVER EVER gonna buy anything from them, TV, blu-ray... nothing! I can imagine that you have the same face as little kid:

''but eeee... its was expensive flaghip!"

No it was not, I bought it year ago, new from Media Markt for 500Euro(right now average price in Spain, German and Poland is 380Euro), hell P10 right now cost 499Euro...

Not to menton that phone is almost two year old, lets see how many devices from that time period, similar price tag and specification have oreo....

LG G5 - Nope still not here

OnePlus 3 - Still in bugged beta stage

HTC 10 - planed but still no update...

Xperia XZ - announced but still in waiting list... and because its Sony, and before Huawei I used xperias I can be sure that their updates will need 1000 fixes because I never encounter sony update that was good...

Gionee S8 - nope.

Asus Zenfone 3 - nope.

Even damn Xiaomi Mi Mix still dont have update -_-

So now relax, use your phone as always, because guess what? it will work even without update. Dont treat updates like some sort of miracle thing that make your phone x100 better in every way, and most important, stop crying about Huawei because compared to other companies its not that bad, especially that you not getting updates that need 100 additional updates that fix major problems. Compared to any other OEM I would rather get one/two updates but working without messing my device. I buy device for how it work and look, and updates dont really change much, especially when average lifespan of device is 3 years.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
[MENTION=5437891]Akinaro[/MENTION] I guess you need to get a life man. Having time to write so much BS doesn't show like you have one...

Updates are important not just for the futures - about security too. And for the price of the phone you deserve better.

And you say "stop crying" but you are crying too... It's kinda funny. We all have different demands, some people like you settle with less, others want more. I respect people that are ready to fight when someone screwed them... So many better options out there than Huawei and their greedy a** :)

P.S: Using MEMEs is so mature... :)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Akinaro:
Writing that and finding that meme took me less than 2 minutes, in the same time I was preparing diner. And by willing to prepare food with intent of eating it, I can say that I have life, because I was not focusing 100% on that so much. Not to mention that Im not spending lots of time here posting sad comment about not getting update...

Second thing. yes, of course Im not mature, because your emojs are more mature than images with text that I used WAY before they where called memes that just express specific idea/though in funny way...

Of course, yes, humor and making fun is not mature... I will say that when I meet stand-up comedian or people who make comedy shows, especially writers that by average are 40 years old. Im barely 29, so compared to comedians Im a just a kid, so I think I have that nice possibility to use "memes"...

And sadly I see that you not really get the idea behind expression "crying"...

I would explain it to you, but, guess what? Its not my job. and and right about now, I spend 1 minute and 20 second writing that reply in the same time focusing on eating and watching on my P9 latest news.... because i dont really need update for that....

PS. dont compare security updates to major os updates... its really sad that people in xda forum cant really separate such simple things in their minds...

Good day :]
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
And again 1000 lines with nothing important in them (skipped most of them). Too much free time man, and too much on the internet I guess. Emojis is a lot different than MEMEs... It's not about the time to find it, it's about using it at all, when you can just write it.

So enjoy your dinner and then cut the internet cord - as it looks like it's not good for you. At least take a break for a while.

Have a good day. :)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] josean36:
si actualización para el p9.

https://www.androidhits.com/android-oreo-huawei-opens-registrations-beta-test-p9-emui-8/
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jan Philipp:
Thanks for this link. It seems there are different infos atm and we have to wait. Newest Beta App is running fine but no projects available..
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Simon G:
He's right. An almost 600 euro expensive phone which after a little more than 1.5 years now no Oreo gets more is absolute Bull****

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[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] TrivialPanPan:
[MENTION=5437891]Akinaro[/MENTION], [MENTION=6080355]MartinDimchev[/MENTION] and [MENTION=6923575]Simon G[/MENTION],

That's really not the point. The point is : a couple of website had some information to the Oreo coming on P9 and the Beta program seems to be active for the P9, according to the access, indeed there's no project availability.

So, if you want to debate to the software support of Huawei, open your own thread and don't pollute this one.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] OptimusPrime8848:
Until the official announcement we cant say any thing... I read somewhere that huawei has 2 major update policy for its flagship phones... so until it is official dont share wrong info...✌✌
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] drstorm:
I can't because it doesn't work without update. I had to disable bluetooth due to CVE-2017-0785 and WIFI due to CVE-2017-13077 to CVE-2017-13088.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pezmet:
Lol.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
But for the app they doesn't say which phones can install it to wait for beta... It was released for the Mate 9 :)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KrAzYtHeBoY:
This Beta is not for P9 is for Mate9
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Simon G:
What? The beta app is for mate 9?

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[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexz0ne:
Found this :

https://translate.googleusercontent...4069/2&usg=ALkJrhjzCj6H-IyYCTaUy-V3NJ15YuX2nA
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sugardad:
Nice one [MENTION=886192]alexz0ne[/MENTION]! ;)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] chudy_85:
This it's my post on another topic

Here you have

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=74332094

People do it one topic about Oreo no more we need to information and discuss
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sugardad:
Nice one @chudy_85!

Credits are due to the OP :)

I couldn't agree more, One maybe two topics should be more than enough, but people-android-TopicFlood and fragmentation goes hand-in-hand along with links taken from another (helpful) thread without linking the source thus eliminating credit..

Anyways, I was just mad that Huawei (allegedly) was thinking on abandoning It's former flagship leaving it with an Incomplete Nougat (that is 7.0 not even 7.1.1, heck till today I haven't got ANY official security update since April 2017) and only ONE major OS version update. Thankfully your post made me feel again SOMEHOW at ease (P9 will get the update during Q1 2018 thus hoping that till then we P9 users (lite, plus etc) will eventually get some official security update love till then).
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] trettet:
It's not just Huawei who skipped 7.1.1 and the security updates depend on the region you're on, I'm in SE Asia and the latest update has the September 1, 2017 security patch
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sugardad:
I couldn't care more about what others skip or not, I'm/we're talking about Huawei here and not others ( by the way because you mentioned about others, I also got a S7 edge but even though it is currently sitting on 7.0 Sammy had the courtesy and officially listed all it's devices eligible for 8.0 not like Huawei where we hunt forums, rumors and speculations Instead of reading official lists from Huawei).

Excuse me but updates and especially updates for Unlocked Devices (not bound to any carrier) should not be dependant by either Carriers nor even the region, It's Security Vulnerabilities that need to be fixed for crying out loud, I'm from Europe and still #oficially# sitting on 7.0 B386 (FF is a solution but not my cup of tea atm).

--Edit

Today I received a new notification of firmware update bringing me to B391 with September 2017 Patches (P9 Unbranded)

--Moar edit

Today I received yet another notification of firmware update this one bumped the version to B393 along with its latest security updates

I think that Huawei is on a good track let's hope that this series of security updates will continue and of course at some point I expect to receive the anticipated Oreo Update..
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aenaongr:
Thats basically the answer from Huawei official about P9. So i guess that's great news :laugh:
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] aceclift:
the latest unbranded version is B395 so expect to see another one if you get it soon, i've had it a couple of weeks now.

B395 has December 1st 2017 security patch
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] clouds5:
I've had android phones from multiple 3rd party companies (htc, samsung, sony, huawei, wife has a blackberry android) and from my experience you can pretty much expect one major upgrade, if you have a flagship usually two. It's basically been the same for all the brands I used.

Your mileage may vary ofc... But it's always worth it imho to get "popular" phones because most will eventually get custom roms with more recent android versions.

And when you look at what apple is doing with software "updates" (or downgrades...) it could be argued that it's actually better to have an optimized older version than a newer one with planned obsolescence features... just ask yourself what you would expect from a software update. In my experience they very rarely bring more performance or big useful features or anything like that.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
Today I asked our Customer service support if the phone is getting it. Their answer is - NO. Explanation: "We are focusing on our newer models. Thank you for choosing Huawei".

Please blast them everywhere. Customers who pay for Flagships deserve better!
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sugardad:
#HuaFail

[MENTION=5541441]aceclift[/MENTION] Yup, I did receive the update last days of December, bringing the Device to December 2017 fix, but what I/we were expecting never came, a software bump that is...

[MENTION=3628258]clouds5[/MENTION] This device (P9) Not only deserved OREO but it is missing android interim update 7.1 which leaves the device semi-crippled in terms of Nougat features e.g. You cannot long press/tap on icons to get app shortcut menus.

If this device had been updated to 7.1 then OREO wouldn't be such an issue but leaving it to just 7.0 is for the laughs.

[MENTION=6080355]MartinDimchev[/MENTION] Sad but true..

I already did that @ my work (I'm an IT) and to all my friends and family, I compared this device with their LG G5, Samsung S7, Sony, HTC etc etc and showed them that their devices are still supported and still will get a version bump in contrast to HuaFail, this made them reconsider and change their minds for this Xmas Season gifts and upgrades!

Surely also I will not buy another Huawei device not even if they manage to put not three but even five photo sensors, two AI cores and twoflower making his magic dancing on the IC board, their support has proven to be rubbish, no official reports, no info, just user and media speculations and thus users hanging on their browsers refreshing WebPages with info on future updates, support is a Major chapter when buying a Premium/Flagship tech gadget that will follow you at least two years, and HuaFail has failed spectacularly many times its users.

HuaFail was and is good on entry/entry-mid devices upto 120€ where you don't care about features and updates, just proper functionality and that's all, flagship and top tier devices is not their turf as they build reputation and support by selling and not supporting, I guess when P30 is out and enough money will be accumulated then they will start to provide support similar as the competition...
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] reddevilv7:
too bad

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Well that isnt fair from Huawei, and they will lose customers as Samsung did couple years ago. Though Samsung is updating their s6 Galaxy, with oreo according to their blogs. So thats another reason why Huawei is doing mistake by ignoring its 2016 flagship.

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[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] udamster:
Pathetic excuse by Huawei
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KinG5Pac:
I guess it's time to start spamming about this on media maybe but maybe we might get some attention
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Akinaro:
What attention? We knew that they work on it for months, they confirmed that in official forum and it was mentioned few times on twitter. Its just not open test for public. It was said that it will be available in 1Q of 2018 after they decided to skip latest 7 version and jump straight to 8.

Your P9 dont work right now with current android version? you are not "pleased" with bunch of security updates that we had for past months?

Seriously stop treat those updated like some sort of miracle holy grail. Oreo update will not make your device work better or last longer on battery. So put your butt on chair and just wait for official release like everyone else.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
Guess you are from the people that take everything and are always satisfied even if they give them nothing. It may be a good thing and a bad thing..

Sorry dude, some of us expect more and want more. We know what we deserve and don't feel good when someone f*cks with us.

It's not a miracal thing but it should be there. Flagship phone with flagship price - 1 OS update? Are you kidding me. For P8 they came up with the exactly same excuse which is ridiculous!

Yes people should demand more! Should start spamming everywhere - Facebook, Twitter, Mobile forums, Blogs!

People pay hard earned money - one OS update is a joke! OEMs treating their customers like this are a joke!

And it's funny, if you don't expect much in life, don't try to kill our vibe man. Keep rolling.

:)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Akinaro:
the hell you are talking about? -_-

You realize that this is just a phone? And what did you really expect from this update if you prise it so much?

And no, I expect lots from my life and Im doing lots of things to make it even better, but we talk here about phone So you know, stop bul##ting about life, its not the place for that.. Here I would expect rather normal people who dont mix their own weird world with reality, because guess what? My phone work just fine, Im perfectly happy with it, just like most of people who bought P9. It was never real flagship but more of handsome device with nice camera, not powerhouse with 1000 and 1 features. that why I bought it just like everyone else.

Also if you knew how Huawei threat P8... why did you bought P9? You got nice device with perfectly working OS that will be perfectly fine for even next 2 years if not more, you will not have any compatibility issues, your P9 will be working as fine as now. Orea update will not change it to new device.

So really grow up, think about for hour or two, and write what did you really expect from this Oreo update that you treat like ultimate super-mega upgrade that will change your device to some sort of Transformers....

In that time, rest of people will be perfectly happy using theirs P9 with current android version, and just wait for future update as a bonus not some "must have" thing.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] udamster:
P8 had Kirin 935 and that didn't support Vulkan API, which is why they didn't give Nougat.

P9 (Kirin 955) didn't need any thing new as such.

Second major OS update doesn't necessarily affect the device. I had a Galaxy Tab S 10.1 it came with KitKat, then got update to Lollipop and Marshmallow. Didn't notice any lag or battery drain upto marshmallow update. It was a 2014 device, but it made the device even very usable even in 2017.

Huawei did market P9 as a flagship. So it would be nice to have update. Specially the EMUI 5.0 update made it more usable than 4.1.1 (at least for me with redesigned notification shade and all).
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
You are telling me to grow up? Damn internet if full with strange people...

I expect better SUPPORT. Some cheap phones are treated better. Yep it's just a phone but we have our expectations. And people like you only talk it's a phone this is why I don't have high standarts and all this BS. But they do the same excuse for everything in their life...

So if you are happy the way your phone use it this way.

Let us with bigger expectations and demands to show our disappointment. Don't try to convince us to be like you and lower standarts. It was promoted as their FLAGSHIP - just like P8. And they both got the same crappy support. P8 didn't have Vulcan so we can let it go but now there is no excuse!
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghoogen:
Already known if Android 8 / Orea comes to the P9?

22-12-2017 10:24

Huawei Mobile

Dear Gerard Hoogendoorn,

We understand that you would like to have the Android 8.0 for your device.

At this moment we do not have an exact date yet when the Android 8.0 is available for your device, but is foreseen for the first quarter of 2018.

Be convinced that we are working with all devices that have the required specifications, to make the best and correct software update available as soon as possible.

Currently we are developing the Android version 8.0 Oreo update available for the Mate 9 and Mate 9 pro, P10 and P10 plus.

When you receive the update exactly depends on the network provider you are connected to. Some network providers adjust the update just before they forward that OTA to the customer.

You should regularly check whether an update is available via:

Settings - system update - check for updates.

Sincerely,

The Service Team

22-12-2017 11:54
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aenaongr:
I see so much argument over P9. Well if you don't like it mates just sell it and go buy something else. For what it is...its worth the money. Camera is amazing. Oreo wont make it great anyway. Only thing i ask is better battery usage. That's all. From the huawei offices in Finland they told me its going to get oreo as well but they will focus more to newest devices and then to older ones.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
Here in Bulgaria the support center said No Oreo at all. :)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KinG5Pac:
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings about Huawei but I bought this phone and I have rights to demand from manufacturer, I'm new to Huawei devices.

Btw I still own Xiaomi mi3 which is 2013 years phone and it's still getting official miui update :fingers-crossed:
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aenaongr:
Maybe no support for Bulgarian companies. But ueah its interesting so lets see

---------- Post added at 11:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:32 PM ----------

Yes ok but as a developer i can tell you that miui works totally different than Emui and miui development is easier than emui. Anyway if after few months we dont get any updates me and [MENTION=4376225]vampirian[/MENTION] are going to make a fully working rom for P9 based on P10 official rom.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KinG5Pac:
I know how miui ports, I'm not comparing emui miui, I'm just comparing manufacturer support which Huawei doest give a f about it, and we know whole this new NPU thing clearly marketing bs

Huawei could port emui 8 to any phone

P10 port would be great ✌️✌️:highfive:
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirian:
Well , we have many huawei offices here in Finland. Just wait a bit ;) Top priority is P10/Mate 10 / Mate 9 / honor 9. Once they are stable the beta for P9 will start. Its still in the list for upgrading to O.

Because P10 with P9 is very identical its easy for us to develop a firmware for older device. Some few changes and a bit of reverse engineering. Thats all. i kinda start working on Oreo project right now but im trying to get camera working so it might take a while. And no im not going to release it without the Official camera. I don't want to get the stress of updates. i want to release it and let the rest of the devs (or whoever actually left in this forum) to do the customization. or improvements. We have to be a bit united like how we used to be back on Samsung galaxy S2 ages. Loads of projects and loads of inspiration.

PS: Don't forget that every mobile company sucks nowadays Update wise. Huawei is a great phone and especially P9 is a unique and power phone for what it is. Still a great competitor for a 2 years old device.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] syrkles:
Agreed 100%
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] clouds5:
[MENTION=260950]sugardad[/MENTION]: agreed, android 7.1 should have been there. Absolutely.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] udamster:
Dude, where was this list? I couldn't find much on the internet for any official list.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirian:
Its internal my friend
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] udamster:
Still dude, I doubt it would come. HiHonor has confirmed Honor 8 is "incompatible" for OREO. despite being well within 24 months. Its there in Android authority and Android police so I guess it's official. HiHonor said the same for P9 as well.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirian:
The device still getting updates. Its not even on the final Nugat version. As i said its internal. When policies allow the device to get android O they will start the beta testing. Honor 8 is too old. P9 is newer and when android O will come out for P10 it will start rolling out for P9 since they are identical devices.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] MartinDimchev:
Stop lying to yourself. It's clear - we are not getting Oreo. Couple support centers said it. Worst OEM ever.
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] WodanGrimnar:
Maybe vampirian knows something ;)
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] vampirian:
No comment ?

The only thing i can say is that i live in Helsinki and Huawei have one of their headquarters for EU here. The other thing i can say is that i have something in my hands and im working with it as a side project. Now what will happen nobody knows. All i can say is that internally is been an agreement to release eventually Oreo for P9. Now if policies allowing it then it will go on public beta. If not...its not the end of the world ?
[Huawei P9 Guides, News, & Discussion] chudy_85:
people do not argue whether we get Oreo or not. it all depends on huawei, and if it turns out that we do not get it, I go personally on one plus or xiaomi

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