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[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amolecule:
:laugh:

Google should seriously look into their India pricing. This is actually embarrassing esp after doing #googleforindia events left right and center.

Have one price point and stick to it. Paying 200 usd over and above the US counterparts is ajoke.

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Guys who own the smaller pixel which color has better feel blue white or black. I owned the og black pixel and wont mind a different color.

any reviews on white and blue vs black? I will end up putting a case anyways
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
The pricing difference is also due to the high import costs in India. Import duty is very high in India.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amolecule:
Thats understood. But price fluctuations are what this is about in a small.span of launch time.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
That is the discount given by Google because of the underwhelming sales. I know it's unfair to us as we pre-ordered the devices even after the hardware flaws and Google screwed us by first handing out free vr to those who bought offline and now this price drop.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rrohanjs:
What small thinking some of ull have .. if the price falls isn't it better for others, u already bought it so how does it matter to you. Mera Bhala nai hota to kisi aur ka bhi na ho, wow lol

Instead contact Google and ask them to give you some credit or something else free to compensate you for adopting it early
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] soodgautam:
What needs to be done for Flipkart to give the 300 bucks credit for delayed delivery?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nickporwal:
Thats what people are saying. Dropping the prices in just 1 month of launch, thats pretty un-appreciated for those who bought it early. Moreover, Google can give the difference as playstore credit to those who bought it early. If you can drop the prices now, it means they can also have lower launch prices. They are just greedy.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Ok so I sideloaded the ota and phone feels a bit faster. White navigation bar looks neat in settings. Looks in sync with the settings app. Although in phone, messaging and many other apps navigation bar is still black.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] th3discodancer:
Any links?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sultan of Speed:
Anyone in here who received the OTA?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
nope... been trying since morning... no OTA yet... dont want to flash the factory image or sideload so will wait..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sanshis:
Bigger Pixels is so so costly that i ended up buying a cheaper one.

https://www.amazon.in/FosoTM-Silico...srs=5790706031&ie=UTF8&qid=1512328997&sr=8-34

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https://www.amazon.in/s/ref=nb_sb_n...19031,k:Ringke+[FUSION]+Crystal+Clear+pixel+2
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
I don't think ota are rolling out yet. Just the images have been made available.

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Why don't you want to sideload?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] th3discodancer:
Thanks.

I tried a cheaper one as well. Unfortunately, though, since I have the Panda version, I noticed a halo being developed around the fingerprint scanner due to wear.

Firstly, I've been baby sitting this phone and I'm astonished that the area around the FP scanner has been already started showing sings of wear and tear.

Secondly, I suggest everyone with the Panda version to go for a case that subjects the area around the scanner to little or no exposure.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sanshis:
try with Bumper TPU than

https://www.amazon.in/FosoTM-Silico...790706031&ie=UTF8&qid=1512328997&sr=8-34&th=1

Yep; i am on Panda too, and know the Pain.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Amolecule:
So I havent bought d phone yet dude. And a flawd pricing is flawed pricing.

Who said mera nahin toh tuhmara bhi nahin.

Abhi cant even criticize google?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nitin.chobhe:
I tried to do that and my sideload fails after serving the update of about ~50% :(

I must mention, I was rooted and had custom kernel. But before sideloading I had unrooted. Don't know what's missing.

Nitin
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
I have stock setup so didn't had any issues with it. Issues over ota was one of my main reason to stop rooting the phone. If you were rooted you could have just downloaded the whole factory image and dirty flashed it unless you wanted to unroot and go back to stock.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
Excellent app I must say. Thanks for your suggestion. This is exactly what I wanted.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sstiwari:
Guys how is network reception with Pixel 2 & Pixel 2 XL. I am planning to get one of them tonight, whichever will have better deal. I have pockets where HTC U11 & iPhone 7 had pretty good signal. But Galaxy S7 had no network at all.

Any input is highly appreciated.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] th3discodancer:
Thanks, man. Looks promising!

Can you share some pics of the phone with the case on?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
The reception is solid. Haven't had any issues till now. I'm on Airtel and in Delhi.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sstiwari:
And can anyone provide feedback about Smaller Pixel 2. Thanks.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
I can confirm the same. I'm on Vodafone in Delhi.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] blueren:
Phone loses signal in pocket? You wear almoonium pants? :D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sstiwari:
I dunno wear aluminium pants, but I think ya replied with aluminium hat on ur head.[emoji6]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nickporwal:
Its good. Never got dropped unnecessarily

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What's the reason? Will you not get further OTAs if you flash manually now?

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You have answered yourself. If you are on custom kernel or recovery, OTA, will not work.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Nah.. I had Ubuntu installed just recently and to get the sideload done I would need to flash the Android tools and what not... It's tiresome.. so just planning on waiting
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Didn't Google release seperate ADB and fasboot drivers. It has become quite easy on a Mac now thanks to that.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Lakshay Sethi:
I own the smaller pixel JB. I can vouch for JB having the best in hand feel and also goes well with most cases. The fabric case, charcoal colour blends very well with the phone.

If you're going with the smaller pixel, go with JB.

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Own the smaller pixel 2, reception is great. On Airtel in Delhi.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] blueren:
This is all that you need. replace your current adb / fastboot (if any) with this version and you're all set.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sultan of Speed:
Android Authority says OTA's will come next week.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] karanaggarwal:
Offer is live. 5k off on mrp on the 2 XL and 8k instant discount on using any debit/credit card. Makes it around 60k for a brand new one :eek:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kkrazzyyguy:
It's so stupid that the phone gets 12000 discount.

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RT this tweet for making it reach the ones who need to hear this. I hope they compensate us. https://twitter.com/_unclaimed/status/938477986575032320
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] karanaggarwal:
Tweeted the same thing
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sharp-Razr:
These guys are destroying their reputation. This is crazy. They're worse than Samsung. Though I cancelled my pre-order I cant help but feel really bad for those who bought the P2. I'm certainly not pre booking the Pixel 3 next year. My OG Pixel XL will see its 2nd or even 3rd year with me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
that's what I was telling everyone we should submit online petition for this injustice after such below par device offered with bad support there should be some accountability on Google so that such thing doesn't happen in future.

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this is what I added to your tweet we have to be blunt https://twitter.com/theanuragest/status/938089546775896065
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] karanaggarwal:
Any email id on which google india support can be contacted ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
use this edge-support@google.com i have used this
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nomad47:
I can understand the frustration. Google is taking Indian market for granted. A price cut of 13k and 21k on a flagship makes absolutely no sense.

The pixel should have been priced at the current selling price at launch if Google was worried about sales figure. They pulled the same crap with 6P also, although price cut of 6P was not this huge.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sharp-Razr:
I suffered with my ownership of the 6P when they refused to support VoLTE and the infamous bootloop issue.

The Pixel 2 should have been priced at the level it is at now ie after discounts to bring it more or less at par with the price overseas. Whatever said and done the Nexus/Pixel ownership experience will never be the same again. Combined with the pathetic resale value of these devices Google continues to disappoint. Are they really capable of building premium handsets or just VFM ones?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Got an automated mail that this is an unmonitored email address. Please visit support.google.com
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nomad47:
Outgoing Pixel XL is having an exchange value of 12.5k. speaks volume of google
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sharp-Razr:
Yep, that's precisely the point I'm trying to make.₹12.5K for a handset that cost me about ₹78K last year. There's no difference in exchange value for higher or lower capacity models.

My iPhone 7+ does slightly better in that regard. But the main thing is Apple doesn't screw you over within weeks of buying their handset.

Not good, Google. Not good. From now I'll think 10 times before pre ordering one of your products.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
I am using this and getting reply... but try this support-in@google.com it's the mail Id of grievance officer.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Ok thanks will try this one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Horoscope:
unbelievably shocking to see such huge discounts just 15-20 days after we bought the device....

Google and Flipkart might by laughing at fools who pre ordered or bought the phone on release day paying full 61 / 73k

will always regret this purchase, this is will be my last Google phone... better to move to brands like OnePlus who offer flagship phones at half the price..

VERY DISAPPOINTING and FRUSTRATING

I am not sure if Google or Flipkart will listen to our voice.... sad day for Consumers
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
I will agree... Google has royally ****ed itself ... I won't be buying another google pixel series anytime soon.... Thus kind of behaviour is just plain stupid and google should be known of the pain....

Would suggest to start a tweet storm looping sundar pichai ... And for everyone to use same to retweet so he knows....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
i tagged him quite a few time no response and that's when he only gets 200-300 comments ...we have to just tweet without any break then may be something can happen.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Well slim chance... But I want to make sure he knows.... This kind of **** panti is not good ... See at apple artificially maintaining the price of its phones even after a year to keep customers happy.... BC
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
Done.

https://twitter.com/I4MR4M/status/938649130812940288
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
OP3T is fetching a better value of 13500 than that. People will just go crazy. Buying a smartphone these days is more tiresome than buying a property these days.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
hahaha bhai angry young man ho gaya.... yes you are right this should not go down without fight
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
?? bhai okay 5k can be digested somehow... But those poor chaps at pixel 2... I mean... Got no good words to describe their situation
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
this is like adding salt to injuries first of all such issues then these offers also people in India doesn't even know pixel
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Horoscope:
I dont think Google will care for our tweets and anger... all they will do it laugh at us
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Yup... But its human nature to fight... And Indian nature to make a hue and cry for padmavati
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
isse achha to iPhone x le liya hota... showoff k kam to ata
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Bhai given my age marriage proposal me kaam aata... Could have used it in def. Col.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
True.

I ordered a P2 last night and got it for 39999/-. Huge price cut.

With P2XL pre-orders if they had given a discount instead of 12k earphones, this Flipkart sale wouldn't have hurt us.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
loll:D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
Padmavati Lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] karanaggarwal:
It's not 5k... it's 13k technically.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Google doesn't give a ****. It's clear from how they've never managed to reply to a single tweet about the free vr. This is something these companies will have to learn from Apple. Whether you like their products or not their customer service is impeccable.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jomy117:
Add me to the list of people confused by this price cut. I had pre-ordered XL from Reliance Digital but due to shipping delay and my travel I am yet to collect it. After HDFC discount P2 is now 42000 and P2XL is 65000. I'm getting a sweet 8k exchange for an old phone additionally plus a daydream VR and 1 year free jio with either. I'm confused if the XL is 23000 extra worth. I'll only miss the 12k headset which I will lose from the preorder bonus. Decisions decisions..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sxrmafia:
Any recommendations for a screen protector and a good case for my new pixel 2 xl (just black).

I like transparent hard cases but can't find one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] karanaggarwal:
Try the Ringke Bevel case. You can find it on amazon. I was about to order the same for mine after reading the reviews for the same.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
Headset is not worth 12k. I would not have paid 5k for it to be honest. Its a decent product when you are not paying for it. And most people would agree. IMHO, the headset shouldn't have too much weightage in your decision making.

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And my suggestion would be to go with the Smoke Black color option cuz the Clear ones get dirty and turn brown pretty soon.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sanshis:
The only good tempered glass/ there are many for XL is from stuffcool (I have given detailed review of it in my previos comments)

https://www.stuffcool.com/products/...tor-for-pixel-2-xl-case-friendly-edge-to-edge

Cases there are many based on your budget choose one

I like these

https://www.amazon.in/FosoTM-Silicon-Transparent-Protective-Google/dp/B077HWWH8H/

https://www.amazon.in/FosoTM-Silicon-Transparent-Protective-Google/dp/B077HWYMNN/

https://www.amazon.in/Spigen-Rugged-Armor-Google-Pixel/dp/B07475TXJQ

https://www.amazon.com/Spigen-Crystal-Protection-Premium-Clarity/dp/B0747813GV
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] karanaggarwal:
Even i was thinking of getting the smoke black one...but I'm not sure how the Panda Xl 2 would look in it. The clear one would make it stand out more in my opinion.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
Just to give you a perspective - I had a Nexus 6 (White) and used it with Ringke Clear case. Over time the case turned so brown that the white N6 looked dirty and ugly. The white phone body is actually what makes the case look uglier than it is.

I think it wouldn't look so bad on a Black or dark colored device.

I'll post a pic in a while if I can find my N6 Ringke case.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] karanaggarwal:
Is the tempered glass really worth 1700rs ? There are some really bad reviews for the same on amazon.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
If you have time and patience, better to order from Aliexpress. You'll get an edge 2 edge TG for less than 700 bucks and a normal TG for less than 300.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] blueren:
Has anyone here gotten a chance to exercise the buy back guarantee option while exchanging their previous phone? FK says that the buy back guarantee price of the 2XL is ~35k. Assuming you're going to trade in your phone next year, are they going to flatly reduce that amount? Even if the offer states something like "Get upto ₹18,000 off on exchange"
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] th3discodancer:
Haven't tried it, but, Correction: 35K cashback within 8 months. It reduced to 28-29K beyond that up to a year.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] blueren:
Still better than 13k. I'm pretty sure the 2xl will not go for anything more than 15k at best, next year on exchange
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] karanaggarwal:
It's with a two year warranty...so at best you can hope that something goes wrong with your device after a year and then google either upgrades you to their next pixel or send you a new device. Which you could hopefully sell for 40-45k.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
Here you go...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sanshis:
Worth it.

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YES, Worth every penny of it... As you must be able to see a small rainbow ring above Time and dot matrix pattern. and Edge to edge protection.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] blueren:
This was never added in my gift card section. So I raised an issue with them and one of their folks called back and confirmed that it will be added by the end of today. So.. yay. 300 bucks :rolleyes:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jomy117:
Unpopular opinion follows.

All things considered the 11k and 5k drop in both models looks like a substitute for Sennheiser headset during preorder. Extra card discounts are almost same as hdfc emi cash back so that's mostly negated(yeah 2k more for smaller one, I know, hence saying mostly).

So I still think Pixel 2 XL preorder offer and current are mostly matched (take any, headset or 5k)

I see a lot of feeling cheated comments all over by XL owners but fail to understand the logic. The smaller one's pricing complaints seem more understandable.

Don't kill me for saying all this. Just wanted to understand if this was due to lack of satisfaction with the XL model that's bubbling up.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] karanaggarwal:
I have the XL one and hands down it's the best phone i've used till date. I no longer have to carry a dslr anywhere or reach for a powerbank after half a day *cough cough apple cough cough*. Its just that I bought the phone at full price (difficult to get a hdfc credit card) and got a daydream along with it which some people are selling for 3-4 on OLX. If given an option I'm sure most of us XL2 owners would have hands down chosen the 60k deal for the Device only.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jomy117:
Thank you! I get where you are coming from now. I for a moment failed to consider that not everyone has a hdfc card. The sudden price drop indeed makes it look like preorder folks got a bad deal. Google should have figured out the initial price instead of handing early adopters a raw deal.

I guess that's the truth nowadays, if you want shiny new things corporates will try to milk you. Only companies like Samsung, OnePlus price it right instead of having price cuts soon after launch.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
Totally agree with [MENTION=4711355]karanaggarwal[/MENTION]

I said this already and I'm repeating myself...If Google had given us a 12k discount instead of the free earphones, this Flipkart sale/price cut would not have hurt anyone who had pre-booked a P2XL. If given a choice, I'm pretty sure that every single one if us would prefer a discount over free earphones (that are just not worth 12k by any standards).

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I remember an ad by Samsung for one of their Note devices...it was clearly mentioned that they would refund the price difference if there's any price drop within 6 months from launch date.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] karanaggarwal:
Anybody else feels that the battery life on 8.1 is draining way too quick as compared to 8.0 ? (on developer preview 2 currently)

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and so happy to see that this thread is one of the most active and helpful threads out here on the pixel forums...a big cheers to all of us :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
I was on 8.1 DP2 for a day or 2 and battery life was as good as it was on 8.0.

I'm currently on 8.1 stable release and no complaints whatsoever with battery life (or performance for that matter). It is stellar.

This thread is alive and kicking. :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Akshaybatwara:
I agree with all those who feel cheated by current drop in prices of pixel 2 devices. I own Pixel 2 XL and would have preferred 12k discounts than those god awful headsets. I feel my 4k RHA earphones had better sound quality ( wired though :( )
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ReapinDevil:
I'm looking to buy the Pixel 2 Xl but I would like to know about authorised service center for the Pixel phones in Bangalore.Thanks
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kkrazzyyguy:
Did anyone get a reply from Google or FlipKart regarding the drop?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Akshaybatwara:
I don't think they will reply. They will just laugh at people who pre-ordered their phones