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[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Mîkòtø:
I can't flash SuperSU since 11/14 built idk the reason I did clean flash and since after that SuperSU gets stuck at patching sepolicies every damn time :/ also sideload or fastboot flashing doesn't work either, and I don't like magisk it breaks my audio drives -.-

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I had that problem when I was using magisk and as soon as I removed it, it worked just fine though try newest version of ROM it doesn't gets stuck on boot logo or random reboot with stuck on logo but magisk do break audio drive for me even if I flash module or not -.-

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I had that problem when I was using magisk and as soon as I removed it, it worked just fine though try newest version of ROM it doesn't gets stuck on boot logo or random reboot with stuck on logo but magisk do break audio drive for me even if I flash module or not -.-
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] minkimac:
No 3 dot menu

Can't find 3 dot menu in titanium backup in validus 16.3
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Phazmos:
There isn't one, never was.
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] trabando:
Any sound mod for louder headphones?
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Phazmos:
If you really want to boost headphone volume

Open mixer_profiles.xml

Under headphones increase rx1 and rx2 digital something or other values. This next line is most important:

I am not responsible for any damage that may occur (to your device or to your ears). You take full responsibility for anything that may happen by changing those values. I have no idea how high you can go before you damage your device, but simple logic would dictate that increasing to much will cause damage, so proceed with caution.

Good luck
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] minkimac:
The menu button

Actually i'm referring to the Menu button. Can't find a way to go into the preferences.
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Sachi315:
On the latest 11/25 build has anybody else experienced MMS problems? I cannot send or receive MMS I have tried completely reflashing complete clean Flash and using multiple different text messaging apps and none of them have worked. I have full service and LTE from Verizon and also tried popping my SIM card in and out that also did not work.
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] THERAJ12:
Yes same with AEX....Stock works fine. It has something to do with the apn settings on these custom roms the default apn under MMSC is blank...but if you notice on stock this field is populated....will need a way to edit apn settings on these custom roms since currently no option to do so.
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Sachi315:
Yes it sucks that the APN settings cannot be modified but I have not had an issue with MMS until the latest build of validus
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Thebear j koss:
I did. I had to change some fields in the provider settings.

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I edited mine. Don't edit the MMS Apn, edit the provider APN
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Sachi315:
The problem is that I can't it's all greyed out
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] THERAJ12:
Can you provide steps please? I'm unable to edit any APN settings
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Thebear j koss:
Settings--->mobile network--->APN---->choose your preferred network---->click on whatever field you need to change. I edited 3 or 4 fields for t mobile fast LTE to get MMS working. Been working fine ever since.
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] THERAJ12:
No option to edit APN on latest AEX...what build you on?
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Thebear j koss:
The latest from 11/26.

EDIT, sorry I am on Validus not AEX
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] THERAJ12:
Strange I had same issue on Validus...I'll clean flash and try this week
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Thebear j koss:
Try going to backup/reset in settings and reset connections to data and WiFi also.
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] THERAJ12:
Yea tried on both validus and aex ...restored stock and I can MMS fine and edit APN but strangely the APN settings look the same as custom ROMs so still trying to figure it out
[Moto G5S Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] trabando:
Change access point name to your own provider and you will be able to send mms. Also try to set mms size limit to 300kb. Try to use "textra sms" app if default sms app doesn't have this option..

My Apn is always on wrong provider after clean flash. I change to Vodafone nl and all works.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] CollinFX45:
I returned my Essential phone and I'm sort of regretting it now that the Pixel 2 is out (not the XL). On the surface, these phones would have appeared to be somewhat similar but now after the announcement and all the specs being revealed, they're quite different devices. Here's my take on the differences and I would be very curious if any Essential owners are thinking of switching (and I'm thinking about re-buying the Essential):

Pixel 2 wins:

+Faster updates

+Better camera

+A few Google exclusives like unlimited Photos storage for full resolution

+IP67

Essential wins:

+Bigger battery

+Higher resolution screen with much smaller bezels (and that speaks to the overall physical design too)

+Cheaper when comparing 128gb options

+Modular accessories (if you're into that, I personally can't wait for the high-quality audio attachment!)

I know this is a pretty simplified view, but I'm having a really hard time on this one mainly because of the 1080P 5" screen, smaller 2700mah battery and overall quite boring design of the Pixel 2. I loved the look and feel of the Essential, but had major complaints about the camera. It seems at least the camera's speed has been improved, so that is a major feat.

-Collin-
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] spotmark:
Not tempted by either of the new Pixels, but the Mate 10 Pro might be a different story.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] TheDethEgineer:
The only thing I like the Pixel 2 is the huge third party accesories support.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] CollinFX45:
Yeah I think it's safe to say the camera on that thing is going to be awesome. But I'm not sure how much carrier support it will receive in the US (if any), so sadly it's out of the running for me. I sure wish the Essential supported WiFi calling on Verizon.

Like cases and whatnot? Can you elaborate a bit? I was excited about the accessory possibilities with the Essential much more :)

-Collin-
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] TheDethEgineer:
Yes, there are many great cases ans screen protectores since day one for the pixel 2. Every other software aspect will eventually get to the Essential and other android phones. Remember Google Assistant last year? Few months later every phone with Android 7 got it, then Android 6 got it to. Even right now you can install Nova or other launcher to have that Oreo feel.

Edit: I am excited to see the potencial Essential and third party mods. Moto Mods for the Z are great, if we can get like half of that it would bre great
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] spotmark:
You can use Google Voice with the Hangouts dialer as a workaround for WiFi calling. The Verizon service inside my house is terrible so that's what I do.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] BonkersTheClown:
Got my Essential Phone through Sprint. If I could swap it straight up for a Google Pixel XL 2, I'd be sorely tempted. My PH-1 is buggy and tends to be unresponsive. The XL 2 has an AMOLED screen, the lack of which is a significant downside on the PH-1. It would certainly be nice to have a better camera too. The only thing that might give the PH-1 an edge is the ability to add accessories -- but there aren't any to speak of that I actually want. It certainly baffles me that the Pixel 2's are still Verizon exclusives. What is the thinking?
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] CollinFX45:
Those are good points, although I think the Essential screen still has the wow factor. And yeah, the modules are definitely an unknown quantity at this point.

For the Verizon exclusives, I have no clue what they're doing. But while trying to beat the iPhone, one carrier exclusive is not the way to do it (same for you Essential...Sprint? Really?). It definitely is surprising.

-Collin-
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] QD2DC:
On a smaller screen the 1080p will look pretty good. It'll be a negligible difference I think. And the lower resolution will help with battery so that should be comparable too. The biggest differences are going to be camera if that's a big deal for you, price, speed of timely updates, and overall design. On the pixel 2 you got bezels but you also get front facing speakers. The essential looks nicer I think with the minimal top bezel. But that's all subjective lol. With that being said I do have the pixel 2 xl on order
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] bill3508:
If the Mate 10 pro worked on Verizon I'd go for that. Pixel 2 xl doesn't interest me. Sticking with the Essential for now. Very happy with it
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] QD2DC:
Any idea what bands the mate 10 supports?
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] bill3508:
According to gsmarena:

TechnologyGSM / HSPA / LTE2G bandsGSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only)3G bandsHSDPA 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 21004G bandsLTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 6(900), 7(2600), 8(900), 9(1800), 12(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 32(1500), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300)
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] QD2DC:
Darn no band 13.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] bill3508:
Yep. :(
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] swagglepuff:
The essential supports wifi calling all day long, Verizon won't allow a non Verizon phone to use their features. Why does everyone blame the phone for the carrier specific features not working on an unlocked phone.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] CollinFX45:
Sorry, maybe support was the wrong word. I’m not blaming Essential.

It works on the Pixel, right? Is that because Verizon sells the Pixel? The unlocked one has identical features. It’s just a bummer that Verizon “certified” the Essential but won’t really allow full use of their features. At least it uses VoLTE and CA though.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] swagglepuff:
The pixel will have all Verizon features enabled. Customers are not happy about the pixel xl 2 screen. It's get crapped on right now.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] elsamuraiguapo:
I'm on Sprint so wanting a stock Android device with flagship specs it would either have to be the essential or the pixel 2. I got the essential for free, but even if I hadn't, Sprint regularly offers deals on upgrades or new lines so it makes more sense to go that route rather than pay $850 for the pixel XL 2. That being said if I could have either one free of charge I'd probably get the pixel for it's massive Dev community. We still don't have root yet on the essential, while the pixel will probably have a gazillion custom ROMs wirhin a few weeks. Oh and the people complaining about to he pixels bezels need to sit down and shut up. The bloody phone has dual front firing speakers. Everyone *****ed when google took those out on the first pixel after the Nexus 6 and 6p had them, and now they brought them back and people all of a suddenly have moved on to wanting a bezels free phone instead....
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] Exsurgence:
Build Quality and Stock Android is very important to me when considering a new phone.

I just watched JerryRigEverything's video on the durability of the Pixel 2 (So should you). Needless to say, I will be sticking with PH-1
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] CollinFX45:
So I decided to buy a Pixel 2 (small version) and while I like it, this feels like a three year old phone. The screen feels TINY compared to the Essential. It's small and light, but my god what a waste of space on the front. Yes it has stereo speakers, but they don't sound anywhere near as good as what HTC is known for.

I will admit, the camera kicks ass. It's fast, it's colorful, its portrait mode is fantastic, but I sure do miss the Essential in every other area. Also as for Oreo, on the surface it took me half a day to even realize I wasn't using Nougat. Remember a few years ago when a new version of Android brought TONS of new features and flare? Boy are those days dead.

Best Buy now has the Essential for $599 compared to the $750 I just paid for the Pixel 2. This is going to be a really hard decision. If Essential could release the portrait mode sooner than year-end, I would jump back to Essential right now. I am such a sucker for that portrait mode. Here's a sample from the Pixel 2 I took yesterday.

-Collin-
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] QD2DC:
I have the pixel 2 xl on order too but I know it'll be hard to give up the Essential. My friend got hers already and it is nice but two totally different designs. The 2 xl isn't bad but there's something slick about the no bezel design the Essential has. It's hard to decide cause the camera is a night and day difference.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] gr00vy0ne:
I received my white Essential phone a few days ago and took it to the Google pop-up store (in LA) yesterday to compare it versus the 2 and 2 XL. While I really like both the 2 and 2 XL, I am keeping my PH-1.

I think it comes down to what device you're coming from and what you're expectation are. For me, the PH-1 is superior to my current device (Xperia Z5 Premium) with a larger, better screen in a smaller body; better battery life and performance; and fast built-in storage and nicer design.

Things that are basically par is the camera. I normally carry another camera anyways and am playing the waiting game assuming Essential will eventually get the software right.

Things I'll miss are the IP67/68 rating, the dual front-facing speakers, some Sony customizations, the lanyard loop, and the headphone jack.

The last two things were going away anyways so I can't be too mad. As much as I think removing the headphone jack is bad, I rarely do use my wired headphones so I understand.

Ok, i lied. There's one last thing I will miss...finding accessories. The PH-1 has the worst accessory scene and probably will so for a while. Thank goodness it's well built. The Pixel 2 is still in my sights but it was hard looking at a smaller screen. I just love the way the PH-1 feels in my hand. When you put the Pixel 2 live wallpapers on it, it just has this intangible quality that makes me want to keep it. :)
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] CollinFX45:
I think you hit the nail on the head. The Pixel 2 screen feels drastically smaller and more cramped than the PH-1. As for the headphone jack, as much as I hate the removal no amount of complaining will fix it. I have the V30 as my other phone, so headphone is definitely covered there.

I honestly think I'm going to go back to the PH-1, but will ride out the Pixel 2 for another day or three. I'm surprised that battery life is as good as it is. No trouble getting through the day, though I'm a fairly light user when it comes to SOT.

-Collin-
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] houstonironman:
I received my PH-1, Verizon is my carrier. I am suffering through signal drops constantly. Can't stay on LTE for any length of time. Cell drops every few minutes, sometimes requiring me to jack with getting it reestablished.

I've already reinserted my SIM back in my old phone and am researching what my next phone will be. PH-1 has a long way to go before it's a usable phone for me, at least using Verizon.

My black PH-1 will be going back, as well as the white PH-1 (which is in route). I really wanted the PH-1s to work out for my wife and I. Can't wait for constant cell drops to be worked out.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] QD2DC:
Strange the Essential has been really solid for me on Verizon Just curious are you using HD voice or just plain old CDMA?
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] aer0zer0:
Is the essential LTE band locked like the u11?
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] QD2DC:
No it has access to all bands and CDMA if you don't want to use HD voice aka VoLTE. I replaced my u11 with the Essential as my daily because of this. It's a much more reliable work phone for me than the u11 was.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] houstonironman:
HD Voice was active on my old cell phone/sim, so I thought that might be the issue. I disabled it on My Verizon online and then tried to add it back. My Verizon showed it not able to be added back as 'incompatible with ph-1'. I've tried only CMDA, as well as others. Nothing resolved.

I'm on an older grandfathered unlimited data plan. Thought that might be the issue.

I've reached my frustration point and am throwing in the towel. I can't cope with the buggy cellular performance. I'll certainly revisit Essential down the road. I really liked the ph-1, outside of the inconsistent cellular.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] quadcrap1:
You left out:

Pixel: Works properly with Verizon. Correctly hands off Cellular/WiFi. Does not lose reception when you pick it up.

Incredible: Terrible problems with Cellular/WiFi (and reverse) handoff. Loses reception when you hold it. No word from company regarding a fix for this problem.

With those points added, the choice is simple, since reception is kinda important, you know.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] mhajii210:
Reception problems

Guys I'm on T-Mobile in Los Angeles and my reception is exactly the same as my HTC U11. I know others have reported reception problems on T-Mobile as well. Maybe it's region specific? If I had that problem I would at least try replacing the phone to make sure it's not a hardware problem. I have perfect reception so it's weird some are reporting it and others are not even on the same carrier.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] QD2DC:
I can report the exact same with Verizon. I came from the nexus 6p then HTC u11, and now the essential and service has been comparable to both.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] going_home:
Short answer, yes.

I never keep phones more than 6 months.

I will end up getting the larger Pixel2.

I'm already bored with the PH1.

I've maybe used the 360 twice.....
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] iswope:
This in a nutshell.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] CollinFX45:
Well with the $200 price drop, I caved (again!) and now have the Essential in hand haha. I'll test it hands-on against the Pixel 2 and make my own decision I suppose :)

-Collin-
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] cap1tal1sm:
Just wondering, where do you live? And what steps did you take to get it on your Verizon network?
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] QD2DC:
Without being too specific I live in southern California. And all I did was take my already active sim with HD voice enabled on my line and popped it into the essential. I set preferred network type to global and turned on enhanced 4g lte mode for calls.

If you have not enabled HD voice, you have to do it while your sim is in a Verizon 4g lte phone, otherwise it'll fail adding the feature to the line. I learned this trick using other unlocked phones that Verizon does not support. In my case I used a Samsung s8. But in the past I've used an iPhone 6. Both Verizon branded. One the feature is added and enabled and tested on the dummy phone you should be good to throw it in the essential. This worked when I tested the HTC u11, and other unlocked phones like the nexus 6p, ZTE axon 7, and unlocked pixel. I assume it'll still work when I get the pixel 2 xl ?
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] aer0zer0:
I have joined the club..... should be g2g since I have a vzw HTC 10 with everything pre enabled.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] cap1tal1sm:
I'm in between getting the Essential and the Pixel 2 regular. Which one has a better screen you think? Pixel 2 has AMOLED but only 1080, whereas this is more similar to my current G3 with 1440p IPS-LCD.

I'm also considering that the Essential might not work well on Verizon's network, whereas the Pixel 2 was literally made for Verizon exclusively.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] robertc88:
Not interested in the new Pixels after seeing them at Verizon. The Pixel 2 was too small and the bezels are ridiculous. The XL is too big and too tall and costs to much and the display I did not care for. Went with the Essential when it was available on sale.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] QD2DC:
It really comes down to preference. In the smaller screen of the pixel 2 the resolution won't be noticeable. It's hard to ignore the essential now with the price drop. And you have to consider the importance of the camera since the pixel 2 is easily better. I'm not that concerned with the camera, the essential is good enough for my needs but that may not be true for you. Then there's updates. Pixel will be first and latest and greatest, but essential hopefully won't be too far behind.

And the pixel wasn't specifically built for Verizon. Just like last year there is no difference in hardware or software between the unlocked and "Verizon" model. It's just a way to get into retail stores and subsidize the pricing for those that can't pay full retail or finance and other way. No different from the essential, same radio and band support across the board. The essential works wonderfully in Verizon, tons better than the HTC u11 for for me, comparable to my nexus 6p If anything.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] JasonJoel:
Each to their own. I don't like the Pixel 2 at all, design wise, and the Pixel 2 XL is simply bigger than I like.

I'll stick with the Essential phone for now. It has been working awesomely so far. As far as camera quality, I have no idea. I take maybe 20 pics a YEAR, and haven't taken one yet with the Essential...
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] cap1tal1sm:
Curious what you ended up going with. I'm between the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 myself! Coming from the G3 so I'm used to a 5.5" QHD screen.

Have you seen the Cellular thread???? https://xdaforums.com/essential-phone/review/cellular-strength-throughput-t3646146/page3

Dude, so many people have been having signal and radio problems, across ALL service providers, including Verizon. No way the Pixel 2 has 50 posts about people not getting service in areas where they did with other phones. So it's clearly an issue, just because you happen to live in an area where you aren't affected doesn't mean its there. And that is literally for the most BASIC FUNCTION of a phone lol.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] QD2DC:
I can only attest to my experience and it's been great. That's not to say issues don't exist but I can't comment on what I'm not experiencing. Are they using HD voice or just plain Jane CDMA for calls? What were they using prior to the essential that they are comparing to? I came from HD voice to HD voice, not CDMA so I can't say how CDMA performance is compared to HD voice, but that is relevant when it comes to complaints since both have radically different coverage.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] CollinFX45:
As for quality of the screen, I don't notice a very big difference. Now the form factor and size of the screen is EASILY discernible and I think the Essential is way better. The Pixel 2 wastes an insane amount of space and the screen FEELS very small, where as it feels huge on the Essential.

Totally agree.

Well I still have both and cannot decide. I like literally everything about the Essential better, other than the camera. The problem is that the camera is so damn good on the Pixel 2 that I just can't give it up. So I'm going to use both until I absolutely have to make a decision.

-Collin-