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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] benrees21:
Vivid display is on by default on both XL and standard pixel. I don't notice a difference if you switch it off. Unfortunately I am unable to confirm if sRGB is on as it's in retail demo mode and locked down. Sorry.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Hitman3984:
Vivid display isn't on be default with my demo mode but I agree, didn't see a difference either.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Guyinlaca:
I tested the Pixel 2 XL with vivid colors on and off. With vivid colors off, the screen was very dull and gray. With vivid colors on (was on by default) the screen is a bit more exciting but still falls short of the Note 8 visually. I realize the Note 8 pumps up the saturation, but it's more pleasing to the eyes. I wish the Pixel 2 XL had a more saturated option.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] akenis:
So it sounds like there is an option in Display settings for Vivid? Original Pixel XL doesn't have that....just sRGB in developer options, which is off by default, and makes a big difference in saturation.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
Actually the of pixel is the first device I felt I didn't need to root or Rom
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] droidguy22:
I also felt same way, Pixel 2 XL screen doesn't hold a candle to Note 8 screen, not sure how Google has the audacity to price equal to Note 8 with that weak hardware, my 2 XL is going back
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Hitman3984:
Lol audacity...

The display doesn't equal the entirety of the hardware
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] droidguy22:
display is the most important part of the hardware, also the phone felt cheap with that plastic coating, no where $1000 quality..you feel like holding a knock off you bought for $400
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Hitman3984:
And it's no where near as badyou're making it out to be.

The average user will like the screen
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] droidguy22:
yes it's bad considering $1000 price, also the phone felt cheap with that plastic coating, no where $1000 quality..you feel like holding a knock off you bought for $400
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Hey, i'm not sure is it that bad considering $1000 price? Did it feel cheap with the coating or no? Does it feel like a knockoff, asking for a friend.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Hitman3984:
We agree to disagree
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mlin:
I agree. My only worry is that there is going to be a high degree of variability with screens. The fact that impressions of it have been all over the board leads me to suspect this may be the case. Then it becomes a crap-shoot of whether or not you get a good screen. Anyhoo, I guess I'll wait and see how mine looks next month.

Kinda funny how Ars technica, who has possibly been most damming of the screen, still state the Pixel 2/XL as being the best Android phones on the market.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] beezar:
Had a LG G2, loved the colors, then got a Note 4 and despised the overblown saturated colors that Samsung does. Had to switch it to basic display mode every time I loaded a new ROM because those colors are blinding.

I'm not really sure how people could possibly prefer Samsung's unnatural over the top cartoony colors.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mrhumble1:
Gotta admit, this is a little worrisome. I am gonna keep my pre-order though. I have no doubt that if there's massive return rates that Google will do something about the display. If it's a calibration issue then that could be just a software fix. Otherwise they might have to replace phones. Either way, if I get one and it's garbage, I'll just return it. My Nexus 6P is still working fine so it's not like I'd be without a phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mlin:
I wonder if this is why the screen hasn't much bothered me. Ever since Samsung introduced the display temperature options, I have always set it to basic. Furthermore, on my 6P I kept sRGB on from day one and have done the same with my Pixel XL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] ProAm500:
To be fair, the average user is buying a Samsung, not a Pixel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ricey:
I think most people are too used to Samsung's default over saturation already. On samsung devices if you set the display to "basic" (sRGB) the colors look the same as the 2XL, ie reds brown and colors washed out. This whole thing could have been avoided if Google just added another color setting like Samsung did with AMOLED Photo, which gives a sort of in-between of washed out sRGB and the full over saturation "Adaptive" setting.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wazka2:
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Look at that screen difference! It is not the matter of calibration. Poor quality panel on Pixel :(
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] underscore_overscore:
Same here, the news about screen inconsistency is very concerning, the main reason I pre-ordered the 2 XL was for the bigger screen and battery. I use my phones for ~3-4 years, so I really hope this one works out. If that screen is garbage, i'm going to send it back and stick with the old HTC One M8 i've been using. As this will be my most expensive phone purchase, I expect the a 2017 Pixel 2 XL OLED display to be much better than the 2014 HTC LCD display, Or at least have consistent colors - I don't really care about colors being vivid, just that whites should look consistently white and not grayish in some parts of the screen.

I'll just wait for delivery next week (Oct 26th, if Google stick to the delivery timeline) and see for myself.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] droidguy22:
Comments from youtube video:

"Wow the screen on Pixel is ****ed up. You can especially notice it at the Data Wing loading screen.﻿"

"That pixel screen looks so ugly compared to the note 8, damn﻿"

"Yes the Pixel is faster but the screen is trash. Wow﻿"

"Screen difference is huge!﻿"
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Go buy a note 8 and leave the Pixel Forums if thats what you want is a screen that looks like Note 8 lol People buy the pixel because its the best phone out there. If screen is what you want then you cant "go wrong" with Note 8. But enjoy the lag after 2 months.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] droidguy22:
may be you might want to read the title of this thread and leave this thread

I know about Samsung lag, still using my N6 for more than 2 years, looking to replace it, had so much expectation on 2 XL, mine is coming next week, but I am not a sheep to pay $1000 for such a weak hardware (poor screen, cheap feeling phone with plastic coating, no headphone jack..)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
I was more than a little concerned after reading everything I have about the screen so I called Verizon today I agreed to keep my pre-order and I'm going to check it out for myself to see if I like it. I'm not a fan of the Samsung over Rich displays so I think this might be okay for me I think that if Google gets enough complaints I think that they will push a software update to fix this! I think the panel is more than capable of pushing out a rich great looking screen I think it'll be up to Google to throw an update out there.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gator Brah:
Got my new XL today. comparing my pixel 2 to my old pixel side by side...its not even close to being the same. the new pixel looks completely washed out in color comparison. Dont even want the phone if this cant be fixed. looks like **** m8
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
Perfectly said I couldn't agree more! I think eventually Google will push an update for a setting for this.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] droidguy22:
from Verge:

"At this point, still dripping with anticipation for the really great Google phone you’d preordered, you might be straying into denial territory and telling yourself that this is not the sort of issue you’d notice. But not noticing a thing isn’t the same as not sensing it. Your eyes will pick up on these flaws and you, like me, will start to grow annoyed looking at this screen without even knowing why. Well, the above is part of why.

Another big chunk of the “why” is in the blue cast that befalls the screen if you ever hold it at an angle that’s less than perfectly in front of you. You’ll know this issue from the year 2011, when Samsung was just getting started with its mobile OLED technology and phones like the Galaxy S II looked gorgeous up front but had the weakness of looking blue from almost any oblique angle. The OLED panel on Pixel 2 XL doesn’t even have the decency to look stunning when viewed under perfect circumstances. But it does have that aggravating blue cast that we thought we’d left in the past."
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rsbenedict:
I have held the pixel 2 xl in my hand and it feels like anodized aluminum, not like a cheap plastic coasting like there was on the G5. It has a texture to it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bartolo5:
Ah! Those are very precisely my thoughts about the 2XL display. Was really hyped up to Pixel 2 XL this year but totally skipping it until next year because this subpar display. It's sort of a tragic situation really, which is sort of what prompted The Verge article. You have this phenomenal device all around with this glaring issue a lot of people are just NOT going to be able to overlook.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mezman:
I'm going to keep my pre-order. I might wait if my 6p didn't die consistently under 35% battery but I can't deal with that anymore. I went and looked at a pixel 2 xl in person at Verizon and while the blue cast at an angle was distracting, the colors when looking straight at the phone were not dissimilar to my 6p which I have set to sRGB because I'm a photographer and I want my phone to look as the designers designed it to look.

If ultimately I can't deal with the blue cast, or I'm unlucky and get one with a bad screen, then I'll probably send it back and trade it in for a regular Pixel 2. Dem bezels tho....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] iceman4357:
I was worried about the display a little, but the more people that post real shots that have received their phones today look really good. I do not see any of the mixed colors that the Verge review displayed. I hope that maybe a few of the sample/developer phones that were used might have had issues. Every retail customer unit I have seen looks good. Might not be Note 8 good, but it seems like enough people will push Google to re-think their "natural" color tuning and move to the Vivid everyone is accustomed to.

https://xdaforums.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/pixel-2-xl-t3690923
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] underscore_overscore:
software updates are not going to "fix" bad hardware, that is wishful thinking.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
That's your opinion. I think they can a day fix by putting in settings to adjust RGB
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] haevolution:
If the 2XL has sRGB as the default color settings it looks way better than the original XL in that mode. I turned it on today and it everything has a brown tint. It was truly awful.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dbrohrer:
That only fixes one of the three issues that keeps getting pointed out. So software update allows toggling sRGB. Now the reds won't look brown. What about the screen effects and the viewing angles? It's a subpar piece of hardware on an otherwise excellent product.

I have little doubt that most people will be able to live with the 2 XL display. Some might be very happy with it and I think that's great. But factually, you are getting a worse display compared to the 2016 Pixel XL. You are paying considerably more money for a product that isn't as good as it "should" be. It's principal. I'm not comparing it to the Note 8. It doesn't stand on its own.

It's frustrating. I was really excited for this phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] chrisc93:
Yeah I can understand the frustration too. I've had the phone since about 11:00 this morning and so far everything save the screen has been phenomenal. The reason for the blue shift is because Google decided to put a polarizing layer in the display. Terrible decision IMO. I've always been able to view a screen w/sunglasses on with no problem.

I'm less concerned about the sRGB issue that people are freaking out over. As soon as someone cooks up a kernel we should be able to calibrate the screen to our heart's content.

I was really wanting to like this phone, but the more I think about this blue-shift the more it drives me crazy. I may end up trading it in for a P2 but I'll miss higher resolution and bigger battery.

Coming from a OP3T, maybe I should just wait it out and see what OP is gearing up for next.

Thoughts?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Goronok:
Have had the phone for 6 hours now and for the most part, I'm happy with the screen. It's plenty vibrant and bright. That said, the blue shift is truly crazy. You tilt the phone even slightly off angle and it goes SUPER blue. I'm not sure it's a deal breaker for me as I don't use my phone off angle, but it's definitely there..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
Agreed I just stopped in to a Verizon store to look at it this play I was the only one there had ample time to check it out thoroughly. After looking at it I do like the screen except for when I turn it sideways and see the blue. Other than that everything else I can live with it kind of looks like my LG G5 but a little better definitely not up to the standards of Samsung but then again I don't like those Rich colors anyway. For the price of the phone I am a little disappointed that the panel looks like that. Call Verizon and asked if this is an issue what are they going to do about it in they said straight out send the phone back... Actually thinking about sending it back and getting last year's XL
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cwalker0906:
If you go in settings and search "cool" it shows their is a setting called cool color temperature in developer settings but I can't actually find it when I press on it. Yes developer options are enabled. Maybe a way to fix color of someone can actually find it
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
What exactly does the polarizing layer do not really sure what that is and why would they put it in that's crazy!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] meboy:
Bull****.

Samsung have had the most accurate displays on the market for a while now. (Since around the S6)

Tested many times with traditional screen testing methods.

---------- Post added at 12:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 AM ----------

You people bashing have no idea what you're talking about..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] chrisc93:
So from what I've read on reddit, it seems to improve the screen brightness in sunlight (when wearing sunglasses). I haven't tested this yet, but plan on doing it tomorrow if it's sunny.

I think I'll keep the phone for a few days and try it out. TBH I don't think the blue shift is too bad. Just different. Apparently the Nexus 6P had it too! Also the picture that the Verge posted where the status icons are different colors is BS. It's not like that at all! What's noticeable is when you tilt the screen a little the whole image shifts to a more blue (cooler?) picture.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mlin:
Maybe we need anti-polarized screen protectors...

On the bright side, or rather the dark side, I'm impressed with how much dimmer the screen can go than last year's pixel. Will be much more comfortable to look at in low light.

I think you bring up a good point about the polarizer though. Google did this with the intent of improving viewing in bright sun when looking through tinted lenses. It doesn't so much make this a quality issue but rather a design flaw issue. It doesn't change the end experience, but I think there is an important difference between releasing a phone with a low quality display and releasing a phone with an unfortunate consequence of added technology.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] meboy:
Clearly not based on every picture of it I've seen so far.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] antiochasylum:
Clearly you didn't read the website as I stated.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] meboy:
Can't take your opinion..

I have very good eyes. Can calibrate accurately without hardware and photos of the screen are not looking good.

Also. Speakers. Much worse than the iPhone. What's the point of having front facing stereo if they are just "good enough"?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] civiksi:
Just saw the Verge thing and I was freaking out. Thanks for calming be down before I go to bed
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mrjaydee82:
I never asked you to take my opinion..but okay
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] chrisc93:
I also wanted to add that the blue shift is only really noticeable on a primarily white screen. And it takes about a 10-20 degree tilt to notice it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] giants8058:
Turning night light on in the display settings with intensity at the lowest seems to help the with the blue shift at angles. It's still there though, just not as bad. Holding the phone flat and toggling it on and off, you can see a pretty big difference. But unfortunately then all the colors are a warmer shade. This is disappointing for a $900+ device. People need to contact Google and complain. Maybe it will eventually be addressed. I'm about to.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] androidpixar:
This is what Google said to Verge...

Here’s Google’s position on the matter:

"We designed the Pixel display to have a more natural and accurate rendition of colors this year but we know some people prefer more vivid colors so we've added an option to boost colors by 10% for a more saturated display. We're always looking at people's responses to Pixel and we will look at adding more color options through a software update if we see a lot of feedback."
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] onishchuk4:
Those of you who are posting your experience with a Pixel 2 XL in-hand, can you help us out and add pictures too?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cryppie:
So basically Google is trying to prevent returns by telling people they *might* be able to fix it with updates.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Hitman3984:
Or you know, maybe it's a legit answer?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] meboy:
It's not because it's clearly not accurate.

This whole "vivid" vs accurate argument is BS.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] giants8058:
I actually think the colors look good, but my main problem is with this bluish tint even at slight angles. And when the phone is lying flat on a table, unless your face is directly over it, it's quite noticeable. Just got off the phone with Google, and she's contacting someone in Tier 2 support and will be calling me back soon.

The screen brightness is at 50% and was in a well lit room, but the Pixel's screen is causing the HTC 10 camera to darken the background.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rsbenedict:
Technobuffalo said the screens were good with the pixel 2 only slightly being a bit more vivid than the pixel 2 xl. I'll hold my judgment until I get it in hand. Pictures aren't going to do it justice. I'll compare against my Pixel XL and see. I don't remember thinking that the screen was crap when I saw it at the Verizon store. And no matter what you do, when you compare screens to other screens, there's always going to be a winner and a loser (just look at TV displays in BestBuy). But those differences are less so when you get them home without something to compare it to. Samsung's screens have always been more vivid than the competition. Some people prefer that and others do not. To each their own.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Tehpdub:
I remember something about the glue not drying on the display, Apple had this problem like 5 or 6 years ago, I could be wrong. This could be a totally different situation.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dhaugru:
Maybe the dumbest comment ever.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] FMXP:
I use AMOLED Photo (which is actually calibrated for Adobe RGB gamut) on my Note 4. I'm probably going to hate the Pixel 2 XL screen.

Maybe I should get the rumored OnePlus 5T, which may be announced on Nov 5th...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] beezar:
Thx for the pics, but if that's all there is to it, I'm not worried. Just looked at my Note 4 at the same angles as your photos and it does the exact same thing; never noticed it before. I'm wondering if only the very new phones from 2017 don't show this shift?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mrhumble1:
I have a Nexus 6P and just tried to see if there's a blue tint to a white background or on white text. I've had the 6P for about a year and never really noticed, but if I tilt it a certain way the white screen goes a little blue.

If the Pixel 2 XL is the same way, then this is a lot of noise about nothing. It's completely a non-issue for me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] giants8058:
Not sure if the pics do it justice, but you can tell in person. Checked it against a SG8+ which had a very slight almost unnoticeable bluish shift in comparison. You can always check it out for yourself at a Verizon store and see if it's tolerable for you.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] audioman42:
These screenshots from MKBHD's unboxing video honestly don't look bad at all. The video was recorded with a proper $70k+ camera setup, so it's probably a truer representation of the screen's appearance than the quick snaps from dimly lit Verizon stores that have been circulating.

[IMG="one"]https://i.imgur.com/YYqFdLI.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="two"]https://i.imgur.com/CEI2C43.jpg[/IMG]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cryppie:
I don't think your 6P comment is accurate. Some had a pink tint but not blue. I had two 6Ps; the first one was perfect, the 2nd had the pink tint. After about 20 minutes I couldn't even notice it. I hope I can say the same for the XL. I'll find out tomorrow..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] murso74:
sRGB with "night light" is already pretty bad, I can't even imagine throwing this blue shift into the mix. I just wish this phone would ship so I could make my decision. And the v30 is off the table for me now for mostly the same reasons. I really don't think I want to go Samsung, so I feel like I'm going to be on the og XL for another year.