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[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] johnnyman25:
Low quality photos??

See my mate 10 pro album here.Almost the 99% of them are on auto

https://flic.kr/s/aHskz33JWU

some examples

IMG_20180612_193618 by John, on Flickr

IMG_20180526_214449 by John, on Flickr

IMG_20180512_171709 by John, on Flickr

IMG_20180413_181726 by John, on Flickr

IMG_20180408_162100 by John, on Flickr
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
This is one photo i took today. It was taken around 5-6 pm and sun barely went down. I can't understand how this phone took this shot. My old g4 is much more capable than this i think. Did I do something wrong or it caused by other things not me?

I think i know how to shot photos but since i have bought it i started not to take :crying:

Thank you in advance btw

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sa6zRfoN9KzKDYNU6

2.photo

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HSv2inMtfHD6yoj49

This has some good details on wall, but not on this princess unfortunately. This may be some chinese game but i do not like this. Every time when	''ai'' recognize person this will be a problem for me, and as far as i know ai cannot be closed on mate10 series.

Last trick from me, some friends says 1x1 zoom is increase details, moreover for night shots using flash is also increase detaile for portrait photos. This is my observation :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] johnnyman25:
The first photo is bad. Never use portrait mode when the light it's not very good.

Use normal photo or the other mode to select the bokeh u want.

The second is better. Try Manual or hdr with bad lighting will help.

Mate the 10 pro be with you
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] 0alfred0:
My photos come out excellent i dont understand how you got these pictures looks like u zoomed in 5x lol

I never use portrait or bokeh effect, i find it takes away a lot of details. I think the quality is great especially at night time.

Pro tip: to avoid lens distortion, use 1.4 zoom for portrait shots. google camera does that by default and it makes your face look more natural. it seems closer to the camera but is actually an arm length away.

For panorama shots i tend to use the boosted colour mode as colors fade away in the distance... everything else ist auto

The Portrait shot of myself was done with the Google camera port v4 (v4 is th only one working for me) by miniuser123, the port is not 100% accurate with colors it tends to have a blueish tint but i like the quality.

all in all this port is made for exynos samsung and it is very buggy (front cam not working a lot of crashes) but portrait on back camera works really well, just dont try anything else, it doesnt work.

Generally you can get a pic with similar detail and more accurate colors by putting your backcam on 1.4 or 1.5 zoom and then take a picture of yourself with good soft lighting (have a window without direct sunlight to your site) this way you get the detail/texture of the skin and enough light to have the details of the hait and eyebrows. Have you arms streched, keep the phone steady with both hands and take the shot carefully with a prepositioned finger. again, never use portrait effect. bokeh will be ok here.

The panorama and my motorcycle are shot with the 2x zoom feature enabled. I did that to have the town closer but for the motorcycle shot i actually wanted to have the background closer. Zooming brings the objects closer together, with normal shot the hills in the back look too small and far away to be noticed

the building is shot late at night (european spring at 10pm/22:00), it was a lot darker than the photo suggests so i am very happy with the result. i actually see a lot more than i did with my eyes. I also tried a night shot but didnt have tripod or something to lean my phone against
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Adriz_82:
Do you think that the camera will be improved in the near future? Any hope on this?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] 0alfred0:
No, how should it be improved? They will add some p20 pro features with handheld night shot and ai but the camera will stay the same... Can't fix everything with an update.

Seriously I don't know what you expect from a phone camera this is one of the best out there... If you only get bad shots maybe you need to think about reading some stuff on how to use a camera. T.

I mean all the flagships take great point and shoot photos. I just think pixel is the best for that and all the others are even better in pro mode (and features and modes)when u know how to use it.

You see all those pics online "shot with pixel/s9/p20pro" and they look a lot better than yours but they were taken by professional photographers under perfect settings and after that they did some high end post production on them.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] novastar1:
Never mind it

Just accept that this board is full of whiners that are better at complaining than taking photos
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] JoshuaLintag:
I think what he meant was that if the camera will get an update to fix the 1.1x zoom problem. I hope it will though.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] madphone:
the camera can be much better through software tweaks. Gcam proofs it in portrait mode. Unfortunately all the bad stuff about our camera is still bad in p20. the camera is not made for taking pictures of people, unless they are really ugly and need a lot of make up. And the bokeh is not much better than on cheap chinese phones.

And of course they could add something like googles hdr+. Samsung did it and it helped with dynamik range.

i guess 80 % of phone camera improvement is made with software nowadays. normally you don't get any of those on the same phone (except Pixel/Nexus, my 6p still holds up with modern phones and often beats the mate 10 pro). But at least we are getting some of them. Better then LG, HTC, Samsung...
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] howard5:
thankx

your all feedback are very nice information .thankx for sharing here.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] ThoroSOE:
One has to say, that the terrible "beautification" effect for faces has been notably turned down with firmware version 142. At least in good to medium low light. In low light an other software effect makes faces unnaturally smooth: the aggressive noise reduction and sharpening. Still works well with artificial structures (can yield rather impressive results!) but is really bad for faces and natural objects.

All in all one can say, that there is VAST potential for improvement in software. The hardware is great - as far as current small sensors and small optics go. You just have to look at the rare examples, when the Mate 10 (pro) gets one truly amazing picture. As those are - as I said - rather rare, it seems that means that the software did NOT work as intended in them ;) But still it shows, what is possible. The main thing the Mate 10 (pro) struggles with is inconsistent quality and strong overprocessing, both can be improved via software.

Who expects current smartphone cameras to be on par even with mid tier compacts, not to speak high end or DSLRs, should seriously take a break and think about how unreasonable that is. There WILL be a day, when technical advances (f. e. curved sensors that are way more accurate) and software (truly intelligent and accurate stacking of the best parts of a multitude of images) will put the raw quality of small sensor cameras on a level that we currently only know from DSLRs. But these days are still a bit off.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] :
I don't know about the whiners in this thread and in general, but i'm fine with being top 5 phone cameras on auto mode, and top 2 cameras with manual mode.

A lot of people pick the Pixel 2 XL over every other camera, but the pixel is VERY limited in shooting modes, and manual controls, if you care enough about photo quality, then I don't see the problem with playing around manual mode and learning how your camera works, rather than just pressing a button on auto every single time.. The Mate 10 has amazing lenses at f/1.6 and a decent sensor behind them, you are NOT limited with what you can do with this camera if you know how to shoot pictures. If you don't then stop whining if your pictures turn out ****, learn shot composition and what ISO, exposure, shutter speed, and white balance are, then maybe you can take good photos in the end.

I have a friend with a $2000 DSLR and he still can't take a decent photo.

HOWEVER, the only thing that really grinds my gears is the sharpening amount that the mate 10 does to its photos, its really insane how MUCH sharpening goes on in the photos.. and this you can't change unless you shoot RAW all the time. The oversharpening amount literally ruins some pics for me, they just look plain bad even if everything else is fine.

Also, the HDR mode is literally broken in this phone, 90% of the time I get better shots on Auto, and HDR mode always crushes blacks in almost every scenario I use it, so I stopped using it completely and trust Auto. (This maybe has to do with the monochrome sensor information, since you always get perfect exposures with the monochrome sensor, you probably never gonna need the HDR mode by itself..)

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One impressive thing I'll say though (and I've seen this from reviews as well as personal opinion) is the GREAT video you CAN shoot in low light. I went to a performance yesterday and me and my friend both took videos with our phones, he has Pixel 2 and me the Mate 10, his video is ****ed up with noise levels and looks like **** in general. Mine looks like it was shot by a professional video recorder, I don't know how the **** they did this but.. if you can get a stable video shot, it's incredible. If you move around a lot then no it's not good since no 4K stabilization (OIS only), but for filming performances where you sit down and can steady the phone, it's on another level I tell you.

Also the more impressive thing is the performance of the camera in ISO 1000 and up, I took some auto pics that looked like they were literally on ISO 50, the detail and everything was there, it looked like an ISO 50 shot, and it turns out it was an ISO 1000 shot with very high shutter, I am blown the **** away.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] JEELK:
Is it possible to shoot raw on the front/selfie dual camera on the mate 10 lite?

I was wondering this bc

I am hating the post processing on the p20 lite on front and back cam (and I think I saw the same sharpening and smudge/blur and compression effects on the p20 etc) resulting in very low resolution in areas that are supposed to be smooth, and strange spikey like artifacts on edges.

Shooting in raw provides muchmuchmuch better results, I can count the hairs on my legs ( instead of auto jpg wit post processing: blurry spots oil painting like bit not quite like that if it's darker.)

The post processing on the p8 was waywayway better, on the front and back, like straight out of a compact camera. What have they done to the algorithm :(

Any solution for that?

Give me grain instead of blur and sharpening effects resulting in too heavily sharpened edges with spikey artifacts and low res in areas that are supposed to be even, the low res areas leave the pics hardly editable, everything you alter shows up in those areas.

Also editing in gallery instantly resizes to lower resolution my pictures heavily on save (or open in editor) . From ~3MB reduced to ~800kb!?

Huawei, Whyyy

This also was not the case on the p8

I liked the native editing app, it was oké for tweaks and I liked the B&W converter. Now it also doesn't give avy numeral indication with the sliders, also very annoying when trying to duplicate a setting on another photo.

Any tips are welcome!

is perhaps possible for us to use the oldnative camera app from the p8 or post processing settings or gallery edotor (next to?) the newer versions?

I can upload some examples if anyone's interested in about one and a half week(study deadlines) from differences between native camera app on the p20 lite, raw VS jpeg and the p8
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] WaxysDargle:
thank you for this. i have a hard time dealing with all the complainers when it comes to this phone's camera. it is definitely in the top 5. i actually like the results more than i did with my s9+. it's an awesome camera, and no it doesn't compete with pixel2 in daylight, but it is a much more well-rounded camera system than the pixel2, hands down. low light photos are fantastic.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Huawei Mate 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] cruzargel:
1080p 60fps looks really bad, not sure why.

1080p 30fps looks better, but sometimes there is blurriness.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] amonrei:
There's focus hunting in 60fps but if you set to AF-S it's ok. Better to use 30fps for extra stabilization though.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] baltobalto:
Unfortunately video is bad if not awful...

Just my opinion after two weeks of testing it.

It's the first time that i am so disappointed from a flagship.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] walhabri:
Just received two days back update for my mate 10. Just by luck I recorded a 1080p 60fps video and I noticed that the clarity of video and sharpness has improved dramatically. You can proof this if you record a similar length video at 30fps. The size of 60fps video is double of that for 30pfs meaning that the frame rate has doubled.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] GuestD0493:
The best video I've ever shot with a phone, including Pixel 2 and Galaxy S8. That is IF you got a tripod, or stable hand, if you don't then it's bad.

The 4K video I shot using my hands was perfect, looked like a DSLR video or some ****, noise was non existent and the processing was amazing for a smartphone. I filmed a ballet performance, with changing stage lights and fast movement, also it was pretty much pitch black in the concert room except the stage which was lit. My friend used his Pixel 2 to shoot 4K at the same time, and his looks like **** compared, too much noise and it just looks bad.. the Pixel 2 video looks like it came from a smartphone straight up, the Mate 10 4K looks like it came from a $700 mirrorless or something.

I have to say again, this was video shot while SITTING at a ballet performance, in this situation where you don't have to walk around, Mate 10 has the best video out of any phone I've seen. If you have to walk and move around a lot, then a very good stabilizer 4K is the best video phone, S9+ or OnePlus 6 come to mind..
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] DominatorX1:
Just a quick one.

What do you think about the video settings for Mate 10 Pro. I have the phone almost a year now but right after I bought it in around few weeks I disabled the video stabilization which is EIS and of course it has OIS built in. I mostly shoot 1080p videos do you think it is a good idea to keep the EIS on as well or just to have it with OIS. What I do not like is the image is somewhat blurred and distorted when panning and when not enough light due to the EIS. But still would like to hear your opinion. Thank you!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] JastaPein:
You may wanna watch the video link below shot entirely using Mate 10 & Gimbal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwJrKzNz1E&t=3s
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] JoshuaLintag:
Has the video quality changed at all since EMUI 9? I feel like the 1080 video is crap and unusable at all
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] revjamescarver:
Since EMUI 9?

What do you mean "since" EMUI 9? The mate 10 shipped with EMUI 8 and has for the most part has not even been upgraded to EMUI 9 except for beta versions. As with any major upgrades there will probably be some bugs with EMUI 9 (and probably with the camera) that hopefully will be fixed before the general release of EMUI 9
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] DominatorX1:
Hello,

Does EMUI9 includes stabilizing in both 1080p and 4K since I no longer see the option to disable or enable it?

Thank you!

If you are not familiar with the upgrade and how to perform it , then you not should type! The official release is already provided and for those who waits for it can upgrade via Firmware Finder as I did fully official build 9.0.0.161
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] domy_os:
Everything works as before.

720p HD 30 fps > OIS + EIS

1080p FHD 30 fps > OIS + EIS

1080p FHD 60 fps > OIS

4K UHD 30 fps > OIS
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] DominatorX1:
Thanks! I will continue to shoot in 4K anyway. Best quality as the 1080p looks more of a 720p upscale.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] domy_os:
The only problem with 4K is 10 minutes limit but I agree with the quality, it's good even in indoor use.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Huawei Mate 10 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] prettejohn:
Selfie blurred faces?

How do I get it to focus on all faces in a selfie? I take a selfie making sure I don't have Portrait mode switched on but still my face is in focus whereas my family are always out of focus. What am I doing wrong?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] felipy2k:
Well my mate 10 pro front câmera looks like Moto E or something worse!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
Almost every time when it sees face it tends to overexpose the photo so i am using gcam. It produces much more realistic photos and no beautification effect. I don't think hdr+ works but sometimes it gives different results than hdr+ off. Link is in below :o

https://xdaforums.com/mate-10/help/gcam-mod-mate-10-t3729078
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
There! Something just happened! Did you take a picture of it? Rate this thread to express how fast the Huawei Mate 10 can go from "zero to picture". A higher rating indicates that launching the camera app and taking a photo is extremely fast such that you never miss an important moment, like when your cat attacks the couch again.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Csetoue:
Is it fast?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Name108:
There is a hotkey from standby, by pressing volume down button twice fast, the camera launches and takes a shot. By taking a shot it is also written time in which the camera launched and took a shot. For me it had shown 0,8-0,7 sec in this way of shooting.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] zengqcan:
Should I replace the camera glass?

I've been using my Huawei Mate 10 for 2 months. And now, when I open the camera app and I can see some tiny little flickering on the screen. The pictures I take are not clear enough now. Then I found there are some scratches on the camera glass. I think that's the reason why pictures are not clear. I want to replace the camera glass. Have anyone tried this before?

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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sportyfr:
Hello all,

I have tried unlocking my blue angel through the sim unlock tool,

ive trawled the pages of the thread to try find an answer. Ive posted in that thread what i get when i try to unlock. Could people please have a look and see if they have any solutions. I am just wondering whether this unlock sim tool will allow me to use the phone on the THREE network?

Many thanks

Sportyfr
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sportyfr:
anyone please?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jdc:
You know, you are not being very descriptive.

Where did you get the unlock tool?

How did you run it?

What errors are showing up on the screen when you put the SIM into the phone?

What model of phone do you have?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] DJ_Steve:
the blueangel is NOT 3g (except the cdma harrier version) so no you wont be able to use a THREE sim card in it, (or if you can three will cut you off quick as they dont like people not using their network (they us o2s network for 2g so whenever someones in only 2g signal area its costing 3 money))
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the Huawei Mate 10's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] alex_official:
Quite good
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] jimmyrich78:
I don't get the EMUI 8.1 still even though I've read lots of articles stating I should have got as one of the first phones it was sent to. I call Huawei and they saying it's cause there doing batches of 10000 phones a time and I should get it sometime before the end of the year. Which is proper shiiiite!!! And the chance of getting EMUI9 looks far away, unless I'm wondering the might just skip 8.1 go onto 9 but that's being optimistic. Also not had security update for months either. What can I do as feel Huawei are promoting there doing these updates in press but in reality it's not how it is... My mums even had the update on P20 lite she got her phone after the date Huawei stated in press they were rolling out to mate 10 pro yet she's ended up with and still nothing for mate 10 pro.

Anyone any ideas on dealing with Huawei other than just resigning myself to there just not to be believed and are really bad at rolling out updates. Like the phone but this has put my faith in Huawei in debate. It's like once they sold you the phone they can't be arsed to keep it updated properly or even to there own timetable. Think I'll consider oneplus next phone they seem have there act together.

And they stopped giving out unlock codes so I can't even custom ROM to get around it myself which I would have done for sure than wait for ever for bloody Huawei. Do you think it is worth me trying to get a unlock code from them on the basis there not updating my phone so the least thet can do is enable me to sort it out myself!!!?? Reckon worth trying or should I just suck it in and resign to fact huawei will send updates much much later than they promote like several months late. And if they don't improve never by a huawei phone again or recommend to friends family which I have done until now.

Sorry bit of a rant but these things piss me off as big tech firms think they can say and do what they like n tell you jog on and accept no responsibility or acceptable reason other than nothing they can do u get it when we can be arsed!!!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] troublecro:
Here in Europe we're getting too much updates in fact
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Coreinsp:
EMUI is good but the only thing that I really hate are the ****ty themes damn why are they so crap?? why cant it be like Samsung themes that changes everything and not only the home screen icons and the wallpaper. huawei really needs to improve their theme engine and theme store cuz they suck ass.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Huawei Mate 10 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] amonrei:
Fast As The Flash (or Superman)

This was 24-100% in 70 minutes. If this is not fast i don't know what is. :silly:
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] AlphaKimori:
I got 5% to 100% in 1 hour when phone is turned off.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Shady282:
Really fast, from 5 to 100% in 1 hour for a battery that lasts 1.5 days with normal usage.