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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] murso74:
So I turned my sRGB on about a week ago on my OG XL and I'm pretty much adjusted to it. For anyone else who has sRGB on and switched to the 2 XL, when the screens are side by side do the colors look similar? Should be easy to tell if the reds are bad if last year's xl in sRGB and this year's XL don't match up well
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] shadowcore:
This has been the most enjoyable fiasco and meltdown in the snartphone infudustry since last year with the explosing note 7s.

Hey guys, watch out for bootloops, if the 2 xl is made by LG, you know what that means!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Dan37tz:
I was currently using an S8+ and a V30 as my two daily drivers, and just got my Pixel 2 XL today. The screen on the Pixel 2 XL is beautiful, very even lit, no banding like the V30, screen is not grainy as far as I can see. The colors look very natural to my eyes, the default ocean wall paper makes the screen look a bit dull and "washed out" but once you switch to a different wallpaper it looks great. In fact, it reminds of a well calibrated IPS LCD panel which I prefer to Samsung's overexaggerated OLED panels any day.

I put the S8+ next to the P2XL and guess what, they both have color shift at extreme angles. The P2XL shifts more towards a blue tinge while the S8+ shifts to a pink one. I think it's just the nature of OLED panels. It's 100 percent a non-issue for me, I have no idea why people are making a big deal out of it. Samsung's SuperAMOLED panels have been color shifting for as long as I can remember.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] benrees21:
Where is immersive mode?? So I know when I receive mine lol.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] kevlo911:
Agreed, I had the v30 and the pixel xl2 has none of the screen issues that the v30 had. Colors look great, screen is uniform.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] stumpy352:
Very good discussion. Supercurio is a legend in the Android dev scene. I used his kernels on my original galaxy s & on several OLED phones since. Also he created voodoo sound that some of you might remember.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Golf c:
https://xdaforums.com/pixel-xl/themes/how-to-enable-true-immersive-modes-t3554299/post70973571
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] tebower:
I had done the same thing last week with sRGB. Totally adjusted to it, and frankly, can't go back (it's now toooo saturated!)

I visited the Verizon store and compared the 2016 XL to the 2XL side by side with the same wallpaper and icons on the home screen. To my untrained eye, the sRGB on the 2016 XL was LESS saturated than the new 2XL. The 2XL looked great, very clear and vibrant, literally nothing that bothered me about the colors. I looked at the angles, and honestly couldn't notice a big "blue hue" issue. Either these issues are incredibly rare, or this issue is overblown by a few hyper-picky tech bloggers. I smell click bait.

I can't wait for my 2XL to come next month. If there is a "burn-in" issue, I am confident Google will simply replace the device. I have no reservations.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Toothdock:
Good to hear. Mine is coming today.

All these problems sound like things that I would've used the phone for 2 years and not cared about had it not created this storm of panic. I'm not a super picky person about things like that either.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Redrockzz:
If yours is coming today, let us know, how this display is in your opinion. :)

Mine is coming in mid November and actually I'm a bit afraid because all these display-issue topics on XDA ..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] amlwaycooljr:
So I got my Pixel 2 XL last night and one of the first things I did was check the screen with the grey image. With less than an hour of screen time and I had the burn-in that you are seeing around the interwebs, less than one hour of screen time. So either these things are being shipped with screens that already have the navbar burned in or this is something else. Things to note, only the navbar is burned in. I find this particularly odd as in all of my previous phones the status icons get burned in well before the navbar does. Furthermore, I also started off with the dark theme which should have reduced the burn-in affect because, correct me if I'm wrong, when an oled display like this is showing black then the pixels are essentially inactive. So if the pixels are inactive for a percentage of the time then the burn-in should have been reduced, no?

So now my question is, if these devices are being shipped with burn-in then what are they doing to cause that in quality control? Seems ridiculous to have the screen on long enough to burn-in the navbar with quality control tests. If this really is burn-in from less than one hour of use, then oh my, that's just sad. But even if that were the case using the dark theme should have reduced it to the point where the status icons would have burned in before the navbar. It's just plain odd that it didn't happen that way.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Redrockzz:
Google is investigating about the burn-in issue.

But I have to say, that it strongly looks like you dont have a burn-in-issue on your device.

It actually sound more like an "Image Retention"-issue, which is not permanent.

Just stay with your device until google is dropping an update/statement about all these screen issues,

I guess they will do it at the end of this week (at least i hope it).

How is the device so far? What about the speakers? What about the display overall except the "burn-in-issue" or "Image-Rentention"?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] init_dot_t:
My brain is starting to hurt. You say “screen burn-in” but did you test to see if it was image retention? I saw several people on Twitter who received their phones yesterday and noticed the nav bar after an hour or so. But then they did what everyone who’s crying burn-in didn’t do. They loaded a white image and set screen brightness to 100% and what would you know, the image retention went away 100%.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cwalker0906:
My replacement device is shipping today so will know the difference in a couple days
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Redrockzz:
Why Replacement? Because of what? "Burn-in"? ^^

Guys, please forget those reviewers, they all are attention seekers. They all are following the trend to get as many as possible views. I just appeal to everyone to order the pixel 2 xl and test it by yourself.

If you dont like it, you can easily give it back to google and get your refund.

But please dont believe anything reviewers are saying in the WWW. ;)

I will get my device mid November, testing it by myself.

I will stick with it, if I like it and the screen is great.

Otherwise I will probably try the upcoming OnePlus 5t ;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] JohnMichaelCost:
I return my google pixel 2 xl and refund for full price i just see on screen burn in issue my Pixel below on navigation bar even on a top navigation bar they cooked. Any idea what happened with my Pixel 2 ? (I just have original pixel just for temporary if the Google is fixed the issue)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] amlwaycooljr:
I agree, this does not seem like a case of burn-in to me either. That or it's a really odd case of it. I'll keep an eye on it and let you guys know if it fades away or not. To my untrained eye the "burn-in" actually seems less this morning than it was last night but perhaps that is just my wishful thinking.

Outside of that the device is pretty good so far, the blue-tint thing does happen but it's really not that big of a deal to me. Then again I'm coming from a LG G5. Though it wasn't exactly great at angles either. In my case it's actually a step up. The LG G5 gets a bit dark which can at times make things harder to see, the Pixel 2 XL gets slightly blue but still very readable thus far. The speakers are also a world of difference. Much better sound and I'm no longer blocking the speakers when I hold the device, it's honestly great.

So if my issue is just image retention and it'll fade away then I'd say the only real issue I have is the sRGB thing which I'm sure either Google or the Lineage guys will solve. The best part of having a phone with an unlocked bootloader is that if you don't like something you can change it. Though really the sRGB thing only comes into play when editing images that you'll post to the public. Otherwise I can hardly tell the difference. I may be in the minority here but I've been openly complaining about Samsung's displays since their first Amoled. They've always seemed over saturated with the colors appearing fake and unappealing to me. However, if that look is what you want then I'd say it certainly looks "dull" when compared to my mothers Note 6 but about the same as my old G5 color wise. Though white appears to be a little more reddish on the Pixel 2 XL whereas it appears a bit blueish on the G5. Oddly enough the G5 also seems to have better black level control than the Pixel 2 XL as compared on this test http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php and it's not sRGB that is limiting it as I used Firefox which bypasses the sRGB setting. The Pixel 2 XL shows down to 7 whereas the G5 shows down to 4.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Parvinder25:
Honestly guys, I got my device yesterday and I am loving it. To my eyes, it looks great and that is what matters to me. Yes there is slight blue when you tilt the phone but not at all concerning to me. If the device looks fine in all conditions, be it dark or bright, why would I scratch every detail of the screen to get out flaws or what internet asks me to believe. That is the reason I didn't cancel my pre-order and I couldn't be more glad. Amazing device and hands-down the best camera i have used till now (coming from iPhone). The portrait mode quality is miles ahead of what iPhone does with dual camera. Respect for Google. Enuf said.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] obsanity:
It's actually opposite of what you want to do. You need to use as much color on OLED screens as possible because pixels which are off will be the ones showing up as burn in. Everything else around it will be wearing and you can't prevent that. So best way to avoid burn in is to fill the static black areas such as navigation bar and status bar with some color.

Someone needs to do a write-up on what causes OLED screens to burn and how to prevent that.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Redrockzz:
New day, new Pixel 2 xl Screen issue:

A german website made a test about the display and said that "the display of the Pixel 2 XL isnt suitable for Virtual Reality".

The display is supposed to flicker by using the daydream.

More and more issues about the Pixel 2 XL Display. Hope google will come out with a statement asap.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] amlwaycooljr:
I apologize for my idiocy. It's been awhile since I've really researched these things. I tried what you said, white image full brightness and as you said nothing appeared. I also tried lowest brightness and 50%, just cause why not, again no navbar there. I also tried this out https://marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html and what do you know it looks exactly like image retention.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pecata:
I got mine yesterday - everything seemed fine until last night-I found that when on black background and the light in the room is low, one of the pixels on the display does not turn off properly to display black - it stays red.

I called google last night about this and they are sending me a replacement.

The display otherwise was alright...I mean the colors were kind of dull, but Google can address that with an update...no other complaints from me really. I don't have a VR headset so I can test it, but if it is really that bad as they say in that german site then DAMN! Google get your sh*t together!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rsbenedict:
Funny how they have replacements to send out, yet my First-Day order is still not shipped. :( Missed it's shipping date and I didn't order the Panda.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] JohnMichaelCost:
What the heck the note 6 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?! and g5 has ips display don't compare to oled/amoled me for ips is better than oled for color accuracy.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] chrisc93:
I used it in a cheapo VR headset. No issues for me! These sites are just scams
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] amlwaycooljr:
According to the logic given here (https://www.androidauthority.com/screen-burn-in-801760/) for image retention / burn-in for oled screens, bright white is the worst followed by any other static color/image with transparent/dynamic being the best. So it seems dynamic > static, black/dark > white/bright. I'm certainly no expert in this and am very interested in learning the best method for maintaining a healthy display so if you have a source saying otherwise please provide. Thanks. :)

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I know, I know but it's what I have available. It's not like everyone is made of money.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cwalker0906:
Because of blue hue. Two of my co-workers also have the phone and my screen was very different from theirs. Even straight on it was blue compared to theirs. Both of them have very nice screens however
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] obsanity:
Sorry, that article is not entirely accurate. I don't know if there is anything written on it so that's why I was saying someone needs to do that. Logically it's very simple. Pixels degrade over time and will get dimmer as you use them. Do the math for yourself. The effect is inverted from the old CRT type.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Guyinlaca:
Before anyone jumps to the regular Pixel 2, research the buzzing earpieces and loud clicking during calls. They say it will be fixed by a software update but that some Pixel 2's buzz louder than others. I realize some hardly use their phones for calls anymore, but that's a pretty big issue.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blcklab:
Activated immersive mode on my pixel in anticipation of my 2 xl arriving tomorrow. Was quick and easy. If I find it annoying I'll just revert back.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Badger50:
Did you use an app, or adb?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blcklab:
I used the Shortcutter app but had to adb to allow the app access. But with the app I have a toggle. Also enabled RGB mode. I really don't see much difference than before.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
my note 8 is just fine, no blue tint in any angle
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] perveeus:
I'm no expert on this but what you describe above sounds a lot like the way plasma HDTV used to perform.

Image retention was a big deal with plasmas & btw I still have one as my main TV & I know never to leave the screen on a picture that is static & white because it will burn in or very least retain the ghostly image for awhile.

Screen cleaning with a moving white picture supposedly wiped away the retention but not always.

Now the later plasma had pretty much lessen this effect but did not eradicate it.

I am surprised that burn-in is an issue with OLED
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] underscore_overscore:
LOL, I'm in the same boat as you. Ordered on Oct 4 and still waiting for delivery. And I even live just a few miles from the Googleplex. Heck if they had a store, I'd have picked it up. The wait is frustrating, but with all these issues reported, it's even more so.

BTW, I've ordered both 2 & 2XL as I'm not sure about being comfortable with the size of the 2XL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pecata:
The best way to prevent the burn in on amoled screen is to enable immersive mode, that will hide the navigation bar and it will pop up when is needed only. I have been doing this since Nexus 6 and it has prevented a burn in on my screens ever since.

You don't even need root for this to work. All you need is to connect your phone to your PC and via adb to issue the following command adb shell settings put global policy_control immersive.navigation=apps,-com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] amlwaycooljr:
I am surprised as well. Getting a bit off-topic but this website looks at image retention of oled TVs http://televisions.reviewed.com/fea...creen-burn-in-problems-causes-image-retention It does look similar to what happens with plasma TVs but I believe the difference is that while oleds tend to have some image retention that retention usually does not become burn-in, retention being temporary and fixable (if not clearing up on it's own) and burn-in not so. At least that is what my googling has so for revealed to me.

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Thank you, I'll have to check that out when I get home tonight.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] kotaro_14:
Just got mine yesterday and... got unlucky. Placed an advanced RMA order today. ETA is 10/27-10/30. The phone on the left is the Pixel 2 XL and the S8+ is on the right.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] onishchuk4:
Man that looks like poo.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blcklab:
Do you have the issue where your screen won't wake sometimes?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] turbo23:
My closest Verizon store did not have any Pixels on display, so they said. If there weren't so many threads on Reddit about the LG panel, I would not be as concerned.

I expect to see P2XL damage control posts flooding xda right about Now, GO...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
Ya third party Verizon stores have little chance of getting them.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] aohus:
there were a few journalists that stated the xl 2 display was dim. that it's not that bright. thats semi concerning to me.

additionally, i would not compare an XL 2 screen to any sammy phone as sammy phones over-saturate their colors. I hate, hate, HATE it when manufacturers do this. I prefer color accuracy over 'vibrant' colors any day.

The same people that buy over-saturated displays are the same ones that buy TV's from brick and mortar stores that have the most 'pop' in color. Its extremely deceiving.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] FMXP:
I went to a Verizon store to look at a Pixel 2 XL myself.

The screen seems plenty bright, it was set to 100% at default and even in the store which was very brightly lit it was nearly blinding to look at. I was able to get out of the demo app and play with the settings, at default auto-brightness it does tend to prefer being more dim but you can adjust auto-brightness with the slider.

The colors seemed just fine to me but I have a cinema calibrated home theater and I use my Samsung phones in "AMOLED Photo" mode not "Dynamic" so I'm not into the over-saturated colors. The whites did look a bit bluish, suggesting they have a cooler color temperature at default which is similar to Samsung "Dynamic" colors and I didn't see any settings to adjust color temperature. If I cannot set color temperature to 6500K on my personal device I will not be very happy, Samsung gives you full control of color temperature and you can have it as cool or as warm as you like it.

I was able to set brightness to the most dim in the store to look for uniformity issues but that just made it impossible to see the screen under the store lights and I cannot judge how good or bad uniformity is from the store sample.

In general the store sample seemed perfectly OK, unlike the recent Samsung Infinity Displays there isn't a garish pink/red cast over everything so that's a huge plus. But if color temperature cannot be adjusted to match the warmer settings I prefer I will probably return the phone. $1,000 is not cheap and the expectations for how good a phone has to be are higher than ever because of how expensive phones have gotten in 2017.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mrjaydee82:
It looks fine I went to Verizon and factory reset it to take out of demo mode and took many pics side by side with my phone. The regular pixel XL is more saturated slightly that's it. I also lowered the brightness and there is no banding or anything. RIP to people saying the screen sucks...I literally spent and hour with the device. Speakers are decent as well I've heard better but they sound great and gets the job done
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cryppie:
This is great news! That one looks completely different than the display unit I saw. There were almost no reds at all. The top of the Google "G" in the search bar was gray and the red outline in the Gmail icon was also more gray than red. That one is clearly red.

Thanks for the update.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] scubasteve101:
I spent about 20 minutes with both the Pixel 2 XL and the Note 8 today at my local Verizon. The Pixel and Note were not close enough to do a side by side comparison but I did download the same 4K wallpapers to each phone and viewed the both with their stock gallery at full brightness and I could not tell a difference between the two. The Pixel had the "vivid colors" or whatever enabled, after disabling it I could not tell a difference in any photo...still equal to the note. (And both better than my S7 Edge)

The only thing that was unimpressive was the background of the app drawer on the Pixel, it wasn't a super bright white...more washed out, but maybe that's because it's semi-transparent...I'm not sure but something looked off. But when viewing photos it looked equal to the Note 8 to my eyes.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wazka2:
After visiting few stores and viewing few new Pixels I am not sure about that screen. Every one I have seen had some sort of non uniformity... That makes me think whether I want to play £800 screen lottery...

Currently have Nexus 6p and had to replace it 4 times before got one that I actually accept.

Colours looked washed out compared to Pixel 2...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] gettinwicked:
I too went into a Verizon store today. I didn't have a lot of time, but I did take a close look at the display. Honestly, the screen looked great to me! I took it out of demo mode, checked out vivid, and without, looks REALLY good. I have a Samsung S7 Edge, and side by side, I thought the pixel xl looked better. Seriously. I think some of these demo phones have been messed with too much or something. Or y'all are WAY too picky ;). I'm definitely even more excited about this phone after checking it out.

Seriously, don't cancel your orders! Just wait for the phone to arrive and see what a brand new, never touched xl looks like. You have a big window to return it if you don't like it. Don't be scurred!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] turbo23:
I appreciate you spending the time to thoroughly give us a view of a unit, out of demo mode. I haven't cancelled my order yet but was considering the P1XL as a second choice. Did you take any pics with the brightness down low? Thanks again.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mrjaydee82:
I didn't take any pics of the brightness all the way down but I can reassure you...you will be happy with the device I can't wait for it
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mrjaydee82:
Here's a pic with vivid mode on in display setting next to my pixel XL og. Again this is with demo mode off so I can get in those settings. You will not be disappointed with the screen