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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Just went to one of my local stores and the Pixel XL 2 was the only phone in there that didnt work. The battery was dead and the guy goes 'yeah its a problem with the demo, we arent the only store to have problems' so who knows if theirs is one that is bad and just did that so people couldnt see or what.

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If its anything like the V30 I'm currently using, you will love it. I cant see anything wrong with mine (not saying there isnt units out there with problems) This thing is simply amazing. I came from an S8 and to me it rivals that, I prefer this one just because of the edge panel. I may be partial to this also because it doesnt lag lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jagman96:
Contrast or at least black levels look better on the 2XL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] scubasteve101:
Were you in SE Florida by chance? My local store had the same problem...only dead phone in the place was the Pixel 2 XL. I brought it up to an employee and they hooked it up to a different charger and it turned right on.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Nope North Dakota, I asked him if he could switch it out and he said no.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] georgiapi:
Very limited viewing angle that immediately begins to fade and give off a blue hue. Unacceptable. Order canceled.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] JeffBea:
Thank you sir, maybe I'll get mine a day sooner.[emoji12]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] pcloadletter1:
The screen is polarized, so off axis viewing will be affected. On axis viewing should be better in more diverse lighting scenarios.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
Can't remember the last time I didn't look at my phone straight on
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Redrockzz:
ohhhh damn, this looks absolutely ****ty :/ So afraid if my device will be better .. (expected release 15-18 november)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Toothdock:
Ok so I just got mine in the mail.

The phone seems absolutely fantastic and I have no problems with the color quality of the screen (I'm not noticing muted color/grain/smear)

However the blue tint is the only thing making me be super hesitant about this. It's enough that if you are holding your phone in any way except directly dead on to you, its got blue tint. I thought 'I only look at my phone straight on so it doesn't matter' but these phones are big enough than unless you have it P E R F E C T L Y aimed at your face the bottom or top half is gonna start to have tint.

Here is a video taken with my 6P showing the situation. No idea whether this is better or worse than others, can anyone confirm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtBMuqfeuvw&feature=youtu.be
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pecata:
No. Do you?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blcklab:
Immersive mode

Sorry. To be clear. I meant when using immersive mode. I should have Googled before asking or checked XDA. It is a known issue specifically with immersive mode.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] amlwaycooljr:
That is exactly how mine looks as well. The blue-tint issue appears to be the biggest problem with the screen imo.

As for the navbar issue I had mentioned earlier, it has essentially vanished for me. I can no longer see the navbar at all in the grey image. I can make out the nav icons for a second or two before they too vanish. This is clearly image retention and, at least for my device, was temporary and has now cleared up. So the only issue I have now is the blue-tint.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Shuthefrontdoor:
So many fanboys defending this obviously **** screen, why isn't there a 79 pg thread in the s8,s8+,note8 forums about screen burn in/ image retention? Because it's a rare fault that amoleds can suffer from. Shouldn't be this common on a 2017 $1,000 phone
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
Well that's exactly what I did I loaded the white screen I also did a screen repair app it stayed nothing would make it go away after many hours of trying to run the white image and the colored repair app nothing would make it go away. Brought it to Verizon today and swapped it out got a new pixel 2XL right now so we will see. I also got confirmation from Google that it's a problem from the first batch of phones and if I have another problem with it Google will handle it themselves. As far as replacing the phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rjrobins:
I have a Pixel XL and bought the Pixel 2 XL. The device is amazing and just the waterproof and expanded storage from 32GB to 64GB are worth the jump for me. I do not have a problem with the sRGB coloring issues. It looks fine and once I turned on that feature of the XL in the developer options, I realized it's acceptable. Do I wish this wasn't an issue? Yes, 100% but it's the way Google wants their devices and just like the headphone jack missing, there's no much we can do about it. I am hoping for a software update as they have indicated.

The Blue Tint is my issue with this phone. I'm on a replacement device already. 1st one received on 10/19 and returned on 10/20. 2nd received on 10/23. I can say the blue isn't as overpowering as it was on the 1st device received but it's still there big time. What does bother me is Google's response. I've attached it along with a picture of the device. I downloaded a picture of a white background and enlarged it on my Pixel 2 XL. I took pictures with the Pixel XL of each angle. Dead on view it's perfect with no blue tint. Google says this in regards to blue tint issues: "The slight blue tint is inherent in the display hardware and only visible when you hold the screen at a sharp angle." I don't find a phone sitting on a desk and viewing it at that angle a "sharp angle" but as you can see in the picture I was wrong. This device when viewing a white screen looks blue. It's not a slight blue, it's blue. The "always on" lock screen clock, when sitting flat on a desk, has a blue haze. Their specific response to that flat blue screen picture: "I understand your concern and I would like to inform you that we can go ahead and initiate a replacement request. However, you can experience the same with the replacement device as well. As the device screen is working as intended and the blue tint is inherent in the display of the hardware component of the device."

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Dku8Z19Ewt4uMSmd2
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
That's the thing image retention is temporary if you go on YouTube and run a full length video 30 minutes or more using the full screen on YouTube and it still doesn't go away that is not image retention that is screen burn-in.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] amlwaycooljr:
Yep yep, I realize that now. I hadn't heard the term "image retention" before today. The navbar issue on my device is now completely gone so all is good.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] onishchuk4:
Btw, how did you test this? I've tried a solid black and also grey image with brightness at min and max. I don't see anything.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
what a joke, I figured they wouldn't actually do anything but keep giving out new phones with the same issues because "they're supposed to be like that" lol. I may cancel pre order tonight or tomorrow and jump on the pre order of iphone x, cuz if I know one thing the screen (that thing we look at and touch every single time we use it) will be beautiful, and apple will not stand by horse**** quality and chalk it up to "supposed to be like that" Sad I was hoping for an actual acknowledgement of their issues and promptly fix them. Apparently it's our lyin eyes. I was going to wait it out receive panda 2 xl but now I'm really on the fence even more so.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ceros007:
"You're holding it wrong"
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] quickstang:
I canceled mine Tue morning which was the day it would have allegedly shipped. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. OPO 5T? S9... Mate 10... I'd have to switch to T-Mbobile for a few of those. Or wait until Nov or Dec to see the outcome of all of this. If I wait until next year, I might as well wait for the S9 with SD 845.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Toothdock:
Well I'm pleased with the phone minus the blue tint so far...So I'm probably gonna keep it.

Switching away from Fi to a traditional carrier is not worth it to me and I am not interested in a smaller phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dems86:
Anyone else seen this on their 2 XL? Think I'm going to RMA.

THE Pixel 2 XL is on the left btw.

What I'm referring to are the vertical streaks/smears that seem slightly dimmer or off color from the rest of the display. It was hard to get a good picture of them, but I think this shows them clearly enough. They become more apparent on white backgrounds and lower brightness, but I can notice them randomly at higher brightness when there is a lighter background.

https://imgur.com/a/8dN3x
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] friendsm_32:
Can someone help me on what the return process is on the phone (Pixel 2 XL). I just can't stop seeing blue. My phone came Tuesday. I'm telling you I love everything about it, I just can't stop seeing blue everywhere. Can I just send it back and be done with it? I bought through Google financing and haven't even received a due date for my first payment. Any help is appreciated!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] theycallmerayj:
Just got mine about an hour ago and the blue is definitely there. Is it a deal breaker for me? No, the more I look at it the more I feel like it has something to with the polarization they mentioned in the conference. Just speculation but I have polarized glasses and something about this screen just reminds me of when you look at car windshields with polarized lenses on. Maybe Google will come and say this outright but if that's the case they won't make that mistake again.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] onishchuk4:
Thanks that worked well. Wouldn't the search box and the static top status icons cause this issue as well?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Bwyan Benton:
This is just my opinion. I've been watching all the fuss about this display silently in the background. Finally just had a chance to go look at the device myself in person. The blue tint is nowhere near as bad as its made out to be by the media. The colors while some say washed out... Look good to me. I have a S8+ and use basic mode for display calibration... Looks pretty much the same in terms of colors. I like accuracy. Not the over saturated punch. Everything else about the phone seemed great. Only thing I'm left concerned about is screen burn in. Which this particular device didn't have. I've had all the nexus phones and the pixel XL.... So I'm a fan of these devices... However when I left the store I found myself saying I couldn't give up my S8+ for this phone. So I'm gonna skip it this year... Not because of the bad screen reviews but because for once I actually like my Samsung phone way to much lol.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Jcsc831:
Search bar

I was wondering the same thing about the search bar :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
So just because some people experience less blue on their screen , doesn't mean those that are dissatisfied and returning and cancelling pre orders may be because those phones are actually defective. Stop saying it's blown out of proportion etc. unless you physically saw that member's phone. Seems to me there's good units and bad. Congrats to you if you have a good one, sorry to those who didn't, hopefully Google will make it right for us instead of your lyin eyes or you're holding it wrong.

can't remember but CNET says 2 or 3 of their 5 test units show this horrible blue and the other 2 or 3 aren't that bad, just barely noticeable.

So there's probably a QC issue between LG & Google or both:confused:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] iceman4357:
Anyone try the Oreo colorizer? Apparently forces the phone to use DCI-P3. Was going to try it out shortly.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/1...l-2-2-xl-vibrant-oreo-colorizer-apk-download/
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] friendsm_32:
Completely agree...also don't believe you can compare spending time on a demo unit vs owning one for days and using it in different aspects of your day. I looked at a demo unit at Verizon on Monday. My unit arrived Tuesday and today I have decided it's not good enough.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] ProAm500:
Just got the phone today. The colors arent that bad. It is slightly muted compared to the 6p, but not a huge deal. I do have to say though, the "blue shift" is hard to ignore. Its very apparent. So much so that at any type of angle you see it. I'm not sure if its a deal breaker or not just yet as I'm going to keep the phone in the box until root, twrp, etc. is figured out. Its PROBABLY something I can live with it, and i'll just assume that its inherent to poled displays, but as has been stated many times in this thread, its not unreasonable to expect better for the price they are charging.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Perry977:
Has anybody tried how the screen looks with polarized glasses? I have had htc 10 amd u11 previously, htc 10 was completely dark with polarized sunglasses while phone was held vertical, it was exactly opposite with u11 all dark when horizontal.. Is there any such polarization on pixel 2 xl?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cwalker0906:
Right on... I have horrible blue compared to my two co-workers, so bad that I called in to rma. The screen on their two phones is slight at a angle, while my phone has a blue hue looking straight on compared to their phones. Just have to get a good one I guess. Should have the new unit in a couple days

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I just did....wow it really works
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] shinasurada:
Went to the Verizon store to compare my pixel XL 2 with the display model. Surprisingly, the display model was brighter and more vibrant than the one I have. I made sure that both phones that the vivid colors option enabled but it was quite obvious.

The store phone wasn't only more vivid but it was brighter and whiter. My phone was warmer, more yellowish. The blue hue was present on both phones but more noticeable on mine maybe because a transition from a warmer white to blue is more noticeable. I think I'm going to return my phone and wait. Sucks that I'll lose the Google home mini because of this. Anyone know when the trade in period ends ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cryppie:
Do you have adaptive brightness on? If so turn it off.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] huskerkate:
what??? "apple will not...chalk it up to 'supposed to be like that'"?!?! LOL - do you not remember "you're holding it wrong"?! Apple INVENTED "it's supposed to be like that"...

and, Google is right - some blue tint is inherent in these types of screens. the only question is the extent of the tint. If it's severe at only slight off-axis viewing angles, then that's an RMA. The guy you quoted, he claims blue tint appears when viewing the phone lying on a desk at a "90 degree angle". I don't know what kind of geometry he was taught, or whether he paid attention, but 90 degrees is perpendicular, i.e., viewing straight on. but, he admitted that there was no blue tint when viewing straight on - so, who knows what kind of angle he's referring to. I would be careful about basing my decision regarding pre-order cancellation on someone who doesn't understand basic geometry....just sayin.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] GoodRevrnd:
From all the talk, I thought the blue tint was an overblown problem. I checked out the phone in VZW store and all other display complaints looked fine, but the blue tint bothered me a lot. Reading a web page would exhibit blue shift at the top or bottom of screen unless the phone was in perfect alignment with viewing. It seems odd to me that people experience this at varying angles. In my case it was 5-10 degrees, in others there's no shift until 30-45+ degrees. I could live with the latter, but that much color shift at such a slight angle is ridiculous. My phone was supposed to ship today but hasn't. I guess I'll just play the lottery and if I lose maybe give up and get a Pixel 2 junior. The XL is a bit larger than I'd prefer anyway.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rajnallan:
I have the blue tone on my Galaxy s8+. I never noticed it till all this fiasco. The reason being when you'll look at a phone you always look at the display facing you only.

Also on different lighting conditions the blue color looks different.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] onishchuk4:
Didn't they tell people to quit wearing skinny jeans when bendgate happened?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] huskerkate:
[MENTION=8654794]whyme45125[/MENTION] - here's someone who understands basic geometry - I'd put more stock in what he says....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] friendsm_32:
This is how my unit is functioning...a slight tilt is causing it to begin to shift. Which with a large phone like this simply operating the phone (reaching for notification bar, switching from one to two and shifting in your hand). It wasn't so severe I would easily live with it. Only complaint I have. With people saying there not all the same makes me think I should send mine back with the chance of getting a better panel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] huskerkate:
i vaguely recall something about that. I stopped listening to what Apple actually says long before that. I still pay attention to its products, designs, and features, but I don't listen to what Apple says about itself - Apple is to self-aggrandizing what Sammy is to screen color saturation...:silly:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robn30:
Those that are choosing to keep this device are letting Google off the hook for putting out a garbage device and charging us iPhone / Samsung prices. The blue tint issue that Google has admitted to is too much for me to even consider reordering. To me a phone that costs me $996 out the door should be flawless. My old ass GS4 and my sisters old GS5 have none of the issues described here. No burn in, image retention, or blue tint issues at all, and both those phones have been in use for 4 and 3 years respectively. I really want this phone for the camera and Android 8.0, but the display being a huge turd is a deal breaker. I actually like the more subtle color scheme, but the other issues are just ridiculous for a device this expensive. Google missed the mark in my opinion, and I think many others are feeling the same way. Very sad and unfortunate. Even worse, I hate Touch Wiz and Apple iOS, so those devices are off the table. My current Moto X Pure is awesome even if it doesn't have some of the cool features of newer phones. The one thing it does have is a great IPS LCD 4K display. I'll wait and see how Google addresses this issue, especially if people keep returning their devices and canceling orders. Good luck to those that hang in there with Google and keep their devices.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] huskerkate:
I would. But, you might want to wait until closer to the end of your 14 day return period, so you have a better chance of getting a device from a newer batch, maybe...?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] friendsm_32:
Since I'm inside 14 day, should I just return for refund and wait it out to see what happens?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] GoodRevrnd:
For reference I'd say my S6 starts to noticeably shift at about 20 degrees and distractingly shift somewhere between 30 and 40, however it's a much lighter blue than the XL. Remember, this is also just an account of one, probably early production, demo unit. I'm curious if the reported differences are some people being more sensitive to color shift than others or there's actual panel variation. I would have never thought viewing angle could be a QC issue that varies that much.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] quickstang:
Mine was supposed to ship Tue & I canceled that morning. One thing I'm not doing is playing the lottery with $930. I don't have the time or patience to SEE if it's good. If not, I'm not going to RMA, wait to see if the new one is better, opt for the Pixel 2 instead of the XL. I'm not playing be kind to Google & do whatever it takes to just get a decent one. We shouldn't have to go through all of this.

Same with people trying to install apps to fix things and adb to fix that.

Unless people have no phone options, I don't see why people do whatever they can to justify keeping the phone.

People need to cancel the stupid thing & wait.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rajnallan:
Mike Barett has made a video and opened a discussion on Reddit about the state of the Pixel 2 XL display.

Please read, watch and share the information below. People need to have a better understanding of what exactly is going on.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/78oyf3/pixel_2_xl_polarization_demo/

Description

The reason the XL has slight blue hues at various viewing angles is due to the embedded polarizer. It is a trade off for being able to view your phone outdoors with sunglasses.

The reason I shot this video is to demonstrate how this works in real-time and to make people aware of this. Many are considering this trade off to be some form of display manufacturing issue which I don't believe is true.

Surely it can be improved upon, but for the time being this is the result.

There is no fix for the blue hue tinting issues unless Google decides to remove the polarizer.

https://youtu.be/mDspwB6JIkg

Thanks a lot Mike Barrett
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] ProAm500:
how bad is it compared to the pixel?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
I don't even know where to start LOL

I didn't quote anyone, I said cnet says of their 5 test units 2 or 3 have really bad blue issue and the others don't. To me this is sounding like the the TV panel lottery all over again.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] AndreaCristiano:
Mine is great! I have none of the issues and all of the greatness !!!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] huskerkate:
That's a tough call. Last year, supply of the Pixels was pretty limited, so I guess there's a risk that if you wait and decide to get one later, they may be sold out. Then again, given the demand last year, I would hope that Google drastically increased its production this year so that you would be safe in waiting it out and ordering later if you wanted to. Personally, I would return for a replacement device right away, and if that one has problems you can return for a refund and wait it out...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
LOL yes because of his lack of understanding geometry means he can't be reliable or trusted to look at a phone at an angle and see colors changing!:rolleyes: