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[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Poopiepants74:
Damn good news!!!

I finally got the damn thing upgraded, and no thanks to Amazon or Element.

They were both useless and kept sending me back and forth between support for both companies.

This is how you were able to break the Ouya console startup process when booting and it works for Element Fire TV's as well.

So it's a bit of a hit or miss, but I am pretty confident it will work if your patient.

1. Download the following file and put it on a USB stick

http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-fire-tv-stick-software-update-history/

Search for: Version 5.2.5.1 (Build 577224220) and download that file

Throw it on a flash drive formatted Fat32

2. Connect a usb keyboard to your Element Fire TV

3. Turn of your Element TV by pulling the power plug, wait 5 seconds and turn it back on with the remote.

4. As soon as you see the element logo start tapping on your "Left alt", "I "(key) and "Print Screen" at the same time. This will cause a break and restart the system. You will do this several times continuously every time you seem the Element logo. The TV should reboot about 3-4 times, so you should see the Element logo 3-4 different times while tapping the key combination. At some point you will see a screen that reads updating.

5. The first time you come across the updating screen wait 5 minutes and if the progress bar does nothing, it is frozen/stuck. Once again, "Left alt", "I"(key) and "Print Screen" at the same time and it will restart. Once again you will see the Element logo and repeat the key combo routine.

You will then see the 2nd upgrade screen and you should see the progress bar moving and it should complete this time around.

Notes:

Never restart if it is updating and you see the progress bar moving or your usb is flashing.

Please reply with any questions, successes or failures.

Good luck!

Poopiepants
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] referee77:
Well, I somehow managed to update to 5.2.5.1. I used a combination of the methods that [MENTION=9220064]Poopiepants74[/MENTION] described in post #5 and post #10. I used post #5 to get to the boot menu, and then I was running into the same error message that [MENTION=338416]fbuzila[/MENTION] had in post #6.

So, I left the TV at the boot menu, removed the USB stick, downloaded and added the 5.2.5.1 update file to the USB stick, put the USB stick back in the TV and continued with the steps to "update from USB", which was successful.

Now my TV has been on 5.2.5.1 for 48 hours and has not attempted to update to a newer version. When I check manually through the settings, it says there is no update available.

I will give it a week or so to see if it 'checks in' and tries to update it its own.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] INSANEMODE:
still stuck on 6.2.6.0 here. can't find a newer package to download anywhere*sigh*
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] referee77:
20 days later...still hasn't updated. I remain on 5.2.5.1 still.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] referee77:
Anyone know where to manually download the latest Fire OS 5.2.6.7 for Fire TV Edition 1 (Element) Edition? I am still stuck on 5.2.5.1. Since I was able to manually update to 5.2.5.1 I'd like to attempt to manually update to the latest 5.2.6.7
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rar ila3289:
Please follow these troubleshooting steps to get the issue resolved.

@ Power off the device

@ Unplug the power cord from the wall outlet

@ Hold down the return button on the TV (on the bottom bezel, next to the power button) and plug in the TV

@ When on the 'Amazon system recovery' screen, release the return button on the TV

@ Using the volume down button on the bezel of the TV, move down to 'wipe data/factory reset' option

@ Press the power button on the bezel of the TV to select ‘wipe data/factory reset’

@ Using the volume down button on the bezel of the TV, navigate to the “Yes” option

@ Press the power button to select “Yes” with the power button

@ Select “reboot system now” with the power button

Please go through the steps and see if that fixes your TV issue.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Poopiepants74:
The only available update to the Fire OS, I have been able to find online is this one:

https://www.amazon.com/television-update

release-margo-54.5.7.2

Build TIME : 2017-06-24 09:27:46

FireOS 5.2.5.1

The latest version Fire OS 5.2.7.0 is nowhere to be found on the internet.

Unfortunately, some apps like Bravo do not seem to work with 5.2.5.1.

I will be contacting Amazon and see if any updates are available.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Poopiepants74:
So after contacting Amazon, they sent me a link to their source files.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/cust...e=UTF8&nodeId=201452680&qid=1564247290&sr=1-1
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Poopiepants74:
So if you have this issue you need the recovery pill file and not just an update.

The recovery file will contain the MstarUpgrade.bin file.

Here is 5.2.6.8 straight from Element.

A quicker way to get into the Recovery menu without a keyboard.

Disconnect the power cable from the wall for 20 seconds, while holding down the power button.

Plug the TV back in and it will turn on automatically.

Immediately hold down the input button which is right next to the power button (Pictured as a Box with an arrow), until you hit the recovery menu.

Select upgrade from USB and you should be set.

It's not recognizing my signature file, so hopefully I will here from them soon to resolve my issue.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] referee77:
Same. Doesn't recognize for me either...
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Poopiepants74:
Good news Element pushed an update which my TV was able to install.

5.2.7.1 is out and it worked for me.

The TV just prompted me out of the blue to install this update and it successfully completed.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] referee77:
Whoa! Mine has done the same thing. All updated and good to go.

That only took 2 years.... *sigh*
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] Joselof96:
Why are global s8/+ like my model SM-G855F enable to unlock the bootloader while the US are completly stuck with an locked bootloader?

Like why are there any diffirence between ua and the rest of the world?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KillerDroid96:
Is Google turning into Apple?

Google is still doing carrier exclusive to Verizon just like Apple did with AT&T. Why!?

-Its 2017 and Google sure as hell doesn't need extra money from a carrier exclusive.

Google trolled Apple last year for no headphone jack. This year they followed in the footsteps of Apple by removing it? Why!?

-IP67 can still be done with a headphone jack. (Samsung etc..)

-Headphone jack sound can be improved with DAC (LG)

-The USB C can still be used for audio even with a headphone jack.

Google charges $200 more for a bigger screen? Apple charges $100 more for the bigger screen and better specs?

Google still doesn't have wireless charging but they did on the Nexus 6? (All the competition has wireless charging in 2017)

Google is playing the Apple game of endless adapters to do simple basic **** so they can pocket more money.

-$20 for USB-C to 3.5mm Jack (When you lose the included one)

-$44.95 for USB-C to 3.5 mm Adapter/Charger (So you can charge your phone and listen to music at the same time...)

-It's 2017 we should be moving away from adapters and cables not adding more.

Google only 4GB of RAM like really come on. At least bump it up for the Pixel 2 XL to help justify the $200 difference.

Google's camera sticks out on this version. Why?

Up to 7 hours of battery on 15 minutes of charging? Like what does that even mean? That's completely relative to the user. Why not say up to 70% in 15min or whatever.

Google why are you still using USB-C 3.1 Gen 1 (5Gbps) and not Gen 2(10Gbps)?

Using LG for the display is disappointing. I would have liked to see Samsung make the displays. Samsung makes the best displays on the market.

The Pixel 2 is a big improvement over the Pixel but still, falls short of the competition IMO. (Samsung, LG, OnePlus etc..)

I'm not saying the Pixel 2 is a bad phone. Its just targeted towards the type of people that buy iPhones.

I miss the phones targeted towards developers aka the Nexus line. Why not have a Nexus and Pixel line?

I'm still rocking the Nexus 6P. I couldn't justify the price for the Pixel XL and still have trouble justifying the price for the Pixel 2 XL

The lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack really rubs me the wrong way. Especially since they trolled Apple last year for not having one. Google fans went nuts over that and couldn't understand why Apple fans acted like it was no big deal. Now Google does the same thing and the majority of Google fans act like it's no big deal. Just shrugging it off. I have such a hard time supporting Google anymore. I've been a huge Google fan since the first Nexus device. I just feel so left behind now. My respect for Google is diminishing fast.

I realize that these are all nitpicking complaints but come on. With that price tag, everyone should really be nitpicking.

The lack of 3.5mm headphone jack has me on the fence. Every time I see an iPhone user walking around with the adapter to listen to music I laugh. It looks so damn goofy and awkward. Picturing myself with the adapter and my Bose headphones for the Pixel XL just makes me shake my head.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
I can agree with you on some points.

Like why troll Apple and then follow in their footsteps with the headphone jack removal. I don't have an issue losing the jack I have an issue with trolling Apple then doing it like it isn't an issue.

The wireless charging is a nice feature I'm rocking on my note 8 but it isn't a necessity for me.

I'm curious to see the how the screen is but all the videos and hands on I've seen it looks pretty darn good.

The Nexus 6p was a great device but it's outdated now. I'm thrilled the front facing speakers come back and that camera bump is to house an amazing sensor. Just saw some of the samples and they are unreal!

They aren't making you spend the money just like the iPhone X but I'll gladly spend the $1000 over anything else on the market
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
If they were trying to emulate apple or even compete with them they would have a higher storage option than 128gb.

Hell even chinese phones have a 256gb option these days.

Google dropped the ball on storage options for sure.

And thats the only thing holding me back from getting one

sent from my Note FE
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KillerDroid96:
Yeah, honestly that's the biggest reason why I think it bothers me so much. Just because they trolled Apple about it. If they would have made fun of themselves during the keynote about removing the 3.5mm headphone jack after last years troll. I would have really respected that but they just brushed it off. I'm not saying that LG will have a bad panel but I fear it will have some inconsistencies between devices. If I get the Pixel XL and the screen is not perfect. Then have to return it to Google to get another one that would really piss me off. Especially since Verizon users can just walk into the store and get a new one the same day if that's the case. LG has had issues in the past with producing consistent displays. Samsung just simply has the best displays.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] abogrhen:
A perfect phone never existed and never will be one in history

you have to know this for a fact

all phones have flows (expensive - cheap - heavy -big -small -skinny - old specs - etc )

and you have to decide what is the most important thing to you and go for it

for example, to me ( vanilla android - OS update very fast ) this is way i got my Nexus 6 before and the reason i order pixel 2

other factors are important but these 2 things are a most for me

And to some people if they removed a thing it will not affect them

like the Headphone jack, i have not used a wired headphones in 2 years (in my phone)

i went full Bluetooth, so removing it is sad but it will not affect me

i wish it has 6 gigs of ram though

and i wish a good nexus replacement show up in the future
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] raidflex:
If they are trying to copy Apple or create a premium handset, then why is wireless charging omitted from the Pixel 2? I did not understand why that option is not present, while ever other flagship smartphone has it.. I also cannot understand not adding an SDcard slot, well other then to force you to buy the 128GB model and charge a huge premium like Apple does.

Edit: I was also really considering a Samsung S8 or Note 8 but after getting burned with a S7 Edge this pushed me toward the pixel. My S7 display had the pink line issue with the screen and was 2 months out of warranty so Samsung wanted to charge $200 for a DEFECT in the device that many others had and no recall was done. This really pushed me away from Samsung. I also had issues with the LG G6 bootlooping in the past and why I tend to avoid LG going forward.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dmarden:
I think they (and every other manufacturer) try to make a decision based on their analysis of what gets them the best return. You (the general you, or we... whatever) need to make a decision about which manufacturer's decision best fits our personal desires. If you can find one that is a complete match... awesome!

I have no interest in SD cards or wireless charging. I was kind of sad when the front facing speakers went away for the Pixel XL, so I am thrilled that they're back. I use headphones regularly, but just bluetooth sets... so I am fine with the ditched jack. I have never had anything resembling lag or slowness, so the performance specs seem great.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] oneandroidnut:
I agree I was looking to try a mi mix 2 and you can get 8 GB of ram and 256 GB of storage on their special edition one and 6/256 on a regular! That is nuts compared to google with half of that!

Yeah for sure and i hope the LG will have a great panel, everything I have seen on the v30 it looks great and i believe panel is the same or very close! I am a verizon user but will not purchase from verizon! I want that google unlocked bootloader!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Born<ICs:
.

Considered response to op's whining snowflake post but yours says it better!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] thesebastian:
They are not turning completely into Apple, they are just barely trying, come on I can buy an iPhones anywhere, with global warranty and more than 5+ years of software updates.

Pixels, on the other side, can only be purchased in 5 out of 195 countries no international shipping (they have a useless Google Store in more than 30 countries at the moment), no physical stores or pickup points for travellers, now they have 3 years of software updates (better than 2), and they mostly sell the pixels "on-demand". Stock never last etc. (Of course there are always stock problems, probably 50% of the Pixels purchased are sold at a much higher price to the rest of the world and with crappy warranty).

So, yes, Google is converting into Apple, but only in the bad sides of Apple. Apple has good sides (stock everywhere, warranty everywhere no matter where you purchased the phone, pickup locations, no inflated price, 5 years of software updates). I'd love to see google adopting these things from Apple, and not the bad things, like giving "exclusive" software features to Pixels (new iPhones) and separating the Pixels more and more from the AOSP.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] georgiapi:
Problem solved. Don't get one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jasbur17:
My dislike is much more trivial. I hate the uneven top and bottom bezels. I guess I'm a sucker for symmetry.

Still gonna be the best phone on the market along with the V30.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Elnrik:
Sounds like you shouldn't get a Pixel 2 XL then. And by extension, you shouldn't clutter the forums with useless posts just to feed your inner drama queen.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Guess you didnt read the thread title lol.

"What i hate about" its not a what i love about it or why im getting it thread.

So technically your cluttering this thread lol :D

sent from my Note FE
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Elnrik:
You must be right.

:good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Cheetohz:
What purpose would extra RAM serve on the device?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] lucky_strike33:
Then dont get it...you will make someone else happier to get it
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Read dude...and you will see your reply to my quoted post makes zero sense lol.

I may actually get it though ....it kinda ticks all the boxes this year for me anyway.

sent from my Note FE
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I'm out of the XL 2 party. I got a good look at the screen bezels today and canceled my order. I like my flat screen so I ordered the regular XL instead. At least I'll be getting a larger phone as this 5" is pretty tough for me to read. Maybe next year Google...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KillerDroid96:
They don't want you to have that option because it doesn't allow them to compete in the way they want. They want to eliminate the need for device storage by making it all stored in the cloud.

A perfect phone is relevant to the person. So many of them have existed. As for a generally perfect phone, it's not impossible. Facts are also a relative term. Scientific facts are always changing. Everything is just a perspective.

Google is no different. The Nexus devices also had bootloop issues which were a hardware defect that Google did nothing about. Electronics are designed to start failing after a certain amount of time. It's cheaper and ensures that you have to keep buying new stuff. Haven't you ever wondered why stuff used to last so much longer than it does now? Every single manufacturer is going to have defects in the products they mass produce them. If you like the S8 or Note 8 don't rule them out because of a bad experience with the S7. It was out of warranty so that sucks but like I said the devices are designed so they fail outside of the warranty period.

You nailed it, its all about the money aka the best return.

It really didn't because I had no idea what it meant. Also, you did respond to and that post proves it lol You're post is actually whining about my "whining". Kinda ironic don't you think?

They won't change into Apple overnight but they slowly will. Just give it some time. Apple has no inflated price? What fantasy world are you living in? Apple doesn't need to inflate the price they set the damn price and the rest of the market follows. Apple is completely exclusive they aren't open source. They also give exclusive hardware to the exclusive models they control...

The problem is only partially solved by not getting one. The real problem is that people are okay with spending $1000 on a device that has so much missing.

I noticed that also but told myself I was just imagining it.

My post is not clutter. It's properly titled you are the clutter fool.

It would serve to help justify the price tag. More RAM means it can handle more applications running in the background. That's just more example of the purpose.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Elnrik:
Well, good job. You just proved you are the biggest troll on XDA.

I'll be ignoring you now. GL with... Life. You'll need it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KillerDroid96:
Um I started this thread. So that makes you the troll and further proves you're a fool. I think you will be needing the luck more. So please take it back for your sake.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] carrilloevo:
That's why you have lots of options!!! If you're not happy with what Google Is offering, then you should start looking at other phones... I'm getting this phone, because I'm done waiting for updates on my phone, they should be coming right next to Google not 2 or 3 months after Google release them...... I'm pretty sure I will enjoy this phone a lot!!!!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bkrickles:
Wow! This thread has stirred up some feelings.

All I would say is maybe feelings of love and hate (and everything in between), should wait until you have this phone in your hands and a realistic review of it can be had. It probably won't be the best phone ever, but I'm willing to bet it's going to be really good and bring enjoyment and practical use to many.

I've had my Nexus 6P for just shy of 2 years and it's been the best phone I've owned. It isn't perfect and the continuous searching through all the custom roms has been fun, as it's always been with all of my phones.

I should have my Pixel 2 xl in my hands within the next 2 weeks and I'm excited.

Be well everyone!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Raistline:
I am replying for the bolded text only. For someone that seems to care an awful lot about listening to music you have a very odd choice in headphones. I have a hard time taking this seriously since Bose is not really known for their audio fidelity and yet you make an effort to point out the brand name.

The 3.5mm jack was a very big concern for me until I realized that the mass majority of my music listening is through a portable DAC/AMP.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] spinkick:
Google wants you to use cloud storage as much as possible, it lets them glean more information and monitize it, which is their bread and butter.

The headphone jack is going away to rip the bandaid off and start down that path of new designs without it. They want to get the public used to it and also if you save a dollar per phone or more its huge to their bottom line. Likely they will not pass the savings to the end user...

Just hook the adapter to your wired headphones or dac.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] raidflex:
There are many people having this issue, this is a problem that should be fixed by a recall. Samsung is replacing phones under warranty only and on top of that people that got replacement phones are having the same issue with the new device. On top of that the whole process takes about 2 weeks, so for 2 weeks you are out of a phone if you need to send it to a Samsung require center. That is pretty bad customer service if you ask me. I wonder how many people would want to be without a phone for 2 weeks. There is even a Facebook page created for this particular issue.

At least the LG phone that I had an issue with the replacement phone was actually fixed and the issue did not come back.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KillerDroid96:
It's not about the sound quality. It's about the design of the ear tips. I can't stand over the ear headphones because they make my ears sweat. Plus I don't like the bulk so those are out of the picture. I've tried many in ear headphones. They all become extremely uncomfortable after about 30min of use. They always build up pressure and I have to constantly take them out. Then I always have the issue of them falling out. I can listen to my in ear Bose headphones for 12 hours with no discomfort. I've even fallen asleep in them. On that note though I've reached out to Bose about making a line of USB C headphones. They have proposed the idea to the engineering team.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KillerDroid96:
I concur and that's the real reason they didn't include a sdcard slot or bigger storage options. The adapter bugs me a lot. I'll just cut off the 3.5mm jack and solder on a USB-C connector to replace it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KillerDroid96:
Recalls rarely happen anymore. Unless the device puts the person's safety at risk. It's just not cost effective to companies. They generally care more about money than the consumer. They are okay losing a few hundred loyal customers to avoid recalling thousands of phones.