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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
Picked up my V30 from T-Mobile last night. My immediate impressions, coming from an S8 and previously a Pixel XL are that this phone is great but does have some immediate flaws.

Some initial thoughts:

- The finger print scanner is blazing fast. On par with my old OnePlus 3 and my Pixel XL. In comparison, the Samsung S8 fingerprint scanner is slow, often unresponsive, and in a horrible position.

- I work from my home office full time and I spend A LOT of time on client calls. I often have headphones plugged into my phone for these calls. I just got off of a conference call and could immediately tell that the audio output through even pretty basic in-ear headphones is significantly better than my S8 was. Voice clarity is much improved and people sound more like they are in the room with you, rather than on a conference call. This is HUGE for me. And I imagine that music quality will see this same improvement through the headphones.

- I was happy to see that there was SIGNIFICANTLY less bloatware to uninstall/disable on this phone than their was on my Samsung S8.

- The overall UI is extremely fluid and fast. The speed of opening quick settings and the notification drop down, navigating through settings, and swapping between apps is on par with my Pixel XL, which is a breath of fresh air coming from the S8. However, there is still some lag to be had within apps, but I'll discuss that below.

- The camera is excellent. I'm not seeing any blurry photos, as others have apparently seen.

The negatives...

- The stock LG dialer and messages apps are hilariously ugly. I was able to get a new theme installed, which cleaned those up a bit but it still doesn't compare to the stock Google dialer/messages apps. Future "Pixel" style themes for the V30 will likely fix this, though.

- I have seen noticeable and consistent scroll lag in some apps like Chrome, Instagram, Facebook, and even in LG's own themes app. I've changed animation scaling to .5x and enabled GPU rendering in developer settings but I haven't seen an improvement. I've only had my phone for about 12 hours at this point so I'm going to give it more time to adapt. However, if this doesn't improve and/or starts effecting more apps over time, it might actually be a deal breaker for me.

- I compared the Pixel 2 XL to the V30, side by side, in my local Verizon store. The front facing speakers on the 2 XL put the single bottom facing speaker on the V30 to complete shame. The downside is that those front facing speakers come with larger bezels, though. Unfortunately, in my short time using the V30, I've already found myself accidentally covering the bottom speaker more than once.

I still have my Pixel 2 XL on order and at the moment, I don't intend to cancel it. If I find that the lag I'm seeing in some apps does not improve over time, I'll probably return the V30 and hold out for my 2 XL. I don't want to give up wireless charging or the headphone jack. But I will if I have to, in order to get a 100% lag free phone. Especially at this $800+ price point.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] melihcarter:
I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying friend [emoji848]
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] lyall29:
I'm starting to experience lag and stuttering also. This goes away with a reboot, but I don't really want to be forced to reboot several times a day. I've tried LG's cleaner app and that doesn't help. I've tried enabling the force GPU rendering, and that doesn't help for me either. I'm hoping that future updates help out. This phone is the perfect size and feels so nice in the hand. I really don't want a different phone, so I'm going to wait and see if it gets better.

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@sn0warmy...you can find the stock Google dialer on APK mirror, I posted a link in a thread about the dialer. And you can download the Google Messages app from Google play.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
He's saying that compared to the Samsung S8/S8+/Note 8 screens, the LG V30 screen doesn't look as good. I do concur with this. I wouldn't go back to the S8 because I much prefer the overall feel and UI of the V30. However, compared to the screen on my S8, the V30's screen looks noticeably washed out. My current long term decision is between the V30 or the Pixel 2 XL, which essentially share the same screen. So this is not much of a consideration for me. However, I could actually see this being a deal breaker for some.

That's right. Forgot about that. I'll try installing those. I'm just afraid I won't be able to truly replace the stock LG dialer/messages app system wide. But hopefully I'm wrong.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] lyall29:
They do replace the stock LG apps. You just have to make sure and set them as your default dialer and message apps
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
Yeah, it's quite disheartening. I honestly think that if they went with 6GB of RAM, the lag/stuttering would be a non-issue. The lack of 6GB of RAM in these 2017 flagships, including the Pixel 2 XL, really has me scratching my head.

I believe this is the sole reason why the Note 8 (with 6GB RAM) crushes the V30 in Phonebuff's head to head speed tests. For instance, the V30 beats the S8+ (with 4GB RAM) in the same speed test.

If OnePlus can easily do it, LG and Google should be able to, as well.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] RealEvil:
My G6 has weird, terrible lag sometimes too. A reboot does fix it, but waiting a while sometimes makes it go away too. I know this is a V30 forum, but sad to see this issue persists across these 2 devices. Its not a deal breaker for me, but sure is something that I experience way too often on a 2017 smartphone.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] eduardmc:
i have the v30 for a day and i can honestly say that the note 8 is smoother and never lags. i have the note 8 for month and i really think the 6gb ram plus samsung new experience optimoze for it has really help the devices. i was always with 1gb ram left which means the phone was using 5gb most of the time.

now my v30 is smooth but not that smooth. facebook app on my note 8 was smooth. here scrolling is jerky and stuttery. i did install package disabler to see if disabling more bloware would help but still the same.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
Sad to hear.

I must say that as much as I want to love this V30, it keeps letting me down. This is my first real day off testing it and I'm already running into additional issues.

1) My home office is at the far front of the house, pretty far from the router. Nonetheless, my Pixel XL and Galaxy S8 were still able to get a very solid wifi connection in the office and manage to consistently get 50mbps+ download speeds. However, in the same spot my V30 barely hangs onto the wifi signal and can't get beyond 5mbps.

2) While I was at the gym earlier, the V30 had consistently bad 4G connection and Spotify songs kept having to buffer. And when I got onto the stair climber and turned Hulu on to watch a show, it kept timing out. Meanwhile, my Pixel XL and S8 both had 4-5 bars of 4G and never lagged once at the gym with Spotify or Hulu.

The wifi situation has finally convinced me to go purchase the Google WiFi mesh network today. So I got that setup and it fixed the wifi issues for my V30 in my office. However, these two new issues with the V30 are big red flags to me.

At this point I've decided that I'll hold onto the V30 until my Pixel 2 XL arrives. At which point I'll turn the V30 back in to T-Mobile and pick up a super cheap phone with my JUMP! On-Demand plan, just to have as a backup.

The disappointment continues with LG. :(
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] lyall29:
I'm sad to say that the light bleed around the aluminum frame and the edge of my screen is going to drive me nuts. It's all I can see now. I don't know what I'll do yet, but I'm considering returning my V30 also.

Edit...I purchased an Incipio case from Verizon and it did cover the light bleed but it was too bulky for my taste. I swapped it out for a Speck case and now I'm happy. The Speck case is not too bulky and covers the light bleed just fine. Now I'm not considering returning my V30. Hopefully nothing else goes wrong.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] eduardmc:
i did notice since someone else mention it. restarting the phone. i just did and the phone is back to normal smooth and fast. it will eventually slowdown in hours or a day. im going to see how long does it take since this might be some ram managment issue. before rebooting i had 600mg ram free. right now i have 900mb and phone is lag free.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
Now I'm very curious to see a break down of how much RAM is getting used up by LG's OS/bloatware, to seemingly eat up over 4GB RAM so quickly.

The big thing I'd like to figure out here is whether or not the Pixel 2 XL (with 0 bloat) will do just fine with 4GB of RAM. Or, if the progression of Android to 7.0+ has simply outgrown 4GB of RAM, making 6GB the new minimum for consistently lag/stutter free usage.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] eduardmc:
i believe the 6gb should be the standard. my pixel xl couldnt keep open even half of the app open with my note 8. 4gb is bare minimum.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
Add Feedly to the list of apps with obnoxious stuttering issues. Oh and the Google keyboard started randomly failing to recognize finger swipe gestures, forcing me to resort to tap-to-type.

I'm starting to think there is something seriously wrong with this LG software. It's making me miss my S8, at this point. ?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] 20degrees:
Uh oh. I rely heavily on Gboard. Hopefully they release a software update asap.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septembersrain:
I love it. My wrists have not ached since I got it. Being this light at first it felt like a toy. Now it feels perfect.

The call quality is crystal clear, data speeds really impressive, is fast and I've had no app refreshes, the screen is beautiful, I'm starting to like the silver though I originally wanted black but the finger prints, and the finger print scanner is faster than my iPhone!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] melihcarter:
Any lags in apps or scrolling up/down?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septembersrain:
Not for me, no. It scrolls differently than iPhone and I had to adjust. I turn off animations so it's very smooth. No complaints here.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] scoobyrln:
im happy just wish some one can make a stock android version leaving the lg camera though as the main apps
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] lyall29:
What?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] eduardmc:
after the lag mess the phone got. (was fix by doing a restart). phone has been smooth since yesterday. this will be my deciding factor to keep or return the phone. i cannot handle laggy devices. loved my pixel xl and note 8. both werw very smooth and consistant devices.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] lyall29:
I haven't had any lag or stuttering since yesterday morning. I wish I knew what causes the occasional lag, but it appears that it won't be a big deal. Now that I have my new Speck Grip case, I'm 100% happy with my V30. The size, weight and feel of this phone is outstanding. I made a mock up of the Pixel 2 (5" screen version) out of a piece of 1/4" plywood yesterday while at work, and it's amazing how close the Pixel 2 is in overall size to the V30. The Pixel 2 is only .230" narrower and .230" shorter than V30 (.230" is a little less than 1/4" ), and has a 1" smaller screen. I feel like LG made the V30 special for me :)

I'm just glad I didn't have a moment of insanity and return this phone for a little light bleed around the edges, which is no longer a problem. I was seriously considering this option yesterday. :eek:
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I use

auto-reboot app

(requires root) to restart my device daily when I'm not using it -- usually while I'm sleeping. Keeps my phone fresh. Of course for the LG V30 I'll have to wait for the carrier unlocked version that will have root, which is why I've not bought this yet. I don't buy until I have root on Day 1.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] EVOme:
I wish I knew what lag you guys are talking about. My phone has been running great since day one. I have not sent my S8+ back yet just waiting for an issue to occur and I cannot find any. I am in love with this phone.

BTW, I have Nova launcher on my phone. Are you guys with the lag using the stock launcher?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] lyall29:
I'm using Launcher 3 (Pixel launcher 2), but I tried switching to the stock launcher when my phone was lagging, and that didn't help. The only fix for me is a reboot. But I've been lag free since yesterday morning. You will definitely notice the lag if you ever get it. The scrolling gets very choppy.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] EVOme:
I'll keep an eye out on it. So disappointed there's no SD card in the XL 2. That's the only other phone I'd choose if the V30 fails me. I'm over the S8+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] lyall29:
I'm giving away a case...https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/accessories/lg-v30-t3667430/page5

All I ask is for whoever wants it, gives me $3 for shipping.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] EVOme:
I'll try it out. Thank you!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] lyall29:
Did you get the pm I sent you? I don't see it in my Sent messages.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] EVOme:
Sure did. Money sent to you just a moment ago. Thx!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
My lag has been with Nova launcher. The launcher shouldn't matter since it's really only while in certain apps.

Like lyall29 said, you will notice it when you see it. A good example is while slowly scrolling through Instagram or Facebook, it stutter's mid-scroll it's like the app freezes for a second or two and you have to try to scroll again to get it going again.

In Feedly, it's while reading through an article. It will do the same type of stutter, described above, and you'll end up skipping 1-2 paragraphs and need to scroll back up. I've tried rebooting but it comes back shortly after.

For those who are reporting no app stuttering/lag, I'm curious, what are your window animations scaling settings and did you enable GPU rendering?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] EVOme:
I hear you. I turn all the animations OFF. I want it snappy as possible. I have not done the GPU change though. I have not experienced the issue.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] eduardmc:
i experience lag. after reboot lag is gone. i do not get lag in IG but in facebook and twitter official app lag and stutter like crazy. my note 8 doesnt lag at all. even enabling force gpu R still lag. i gave up and downloaded metal fb and twitter client. smooth has butter. other things dont lag. anothe app that lag/stutter is the tmobile tuesday app.

different manufacture program their kernel differently for their cpu scaling i believe it might have to do with that since both note 8 and v30 same cpu. rooting and using a different kernel would smooth things out but already read that would could only dream of rooting :(
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septembersrain:
Same. I've also tried the GPU rendering and it didn't change anything for me. I do think turning animations off has made a huge difference. I know I turn off animations on my iPhone devices too.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] lyall29:
I haven't had any lag in 2 full days! I think I've found the best launcher for our V30's. It's called Lawn chair launcher. It's free on the Play store and it's better IMO than any ported Pixel launcher out right now. Here is the link if anyone wants to try it...https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.deletescape.lawnchair.plah

If you do try it, go to the read more section in the app's description on the Play store, and click on the link to enable the Google Now feed. I heard about this launcher on All About Android and another Android site, maybe Android Police, I can't remember.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septembersrain:
It's official, I went where I originally got no service. Only lost service for a second but I'm still getting 1-2 bars everywhere else. Went through Lakehills, Mico, Rio Medina, and Castroville. Only lost service for a few seconds by the Medina River Dam. Not bad.

-All cities in rural Texas.

Can definitely say huge improvement over 7 Plus with an Intel modem. Can't wait to see how band 71 turns out.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
Yesterday, after experiencing lag/stuttering issues and Google keyboard freezes through nearly 2 days and multiple reboots, I decided to disable GPU rendering and rebooted the phone one more time.

I'm happy to report that another 30+ hours have gone by and I must say, things are looking much better. I don't know if it's that I'm thinking about it less and just using the phone, the GPU rendering setting, or if the phone truly is getting better as time progresses. Either way the phone feels super fluid and the lag/stuttering I was getting previously seems to have mostly disappeared.

Oddly enough, the apps I was experiencing stuttering issues with previously have all received updates from the Google play store since yesterday, as well.

I'm much happier with this phone now. Hopefully this keeps up. I'm still not pleased with the poor 4G signal I'm getting in areas where my previous phones had great signal. And I'm finding that this phone is very picky about being placed on the wireless charger *perfectly*, or else it won't charge. With the Galaxy S8, you just throw it on the charger and it always charges.

So there are still some little things that bug me enough to keep me excited for my 2 XL to arrive. However, my experience with the V30 is definitely improving.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Addiso:
Currently loving the phone, no issues in terms of lag but will update if I do see any coincidences of it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] melihcarter:
Based on what I'm reading here, everybody with production date after October is happy with their device. Which shows that the first batch quality check was bad and lg is paying more attention to the new production units. I wish they just acknowledged the issue by releasing a statement and assuring people that screen problems will be taken care of with new units.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Addiso:
Mine shows 10/9 on the box.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septembersrain:
Mine is 10/08.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
10/09 on the box for me. No display issues to report. My issues have all seemingly been software related and those issues seem to be improving as time progresses and apps get updated..
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] baric88:
I like mine, no big issues so far I wish it was a bit more customizable but a nice step up from the note 5
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] eVoLpaNda:
My manufactured date on the box shows 09/2017. I pre ordered my V30 and I have lag, stutters, scrolling issues in multiple apps, and all the screen issues. I am coming back to android from the iPhone 7 plus and I am not sure if I will keep this phone or not.

I have been annoyed more often than happy with this phone so far. I was thinking about the note 8 but I usually don't like Samsung phones. I only have 4 more days to figure it out!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septembersrain:
If you're having issues, I wouldn't recommend staying with that device. At least exchange it. If not, return it. Compared with my 7 Plus, I've felt like I'm upgraded. If you don't feel that way, perhaps you've either got a defective device or the V30 isn't for you.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ern88:
Coming from a Nexus 6p. The V30 is a great upgrade. I am also using the Pixel 2 launcher. Not crazy of the LG launcher.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septembersrain:
Wow. I would have never seen this or anything close on the iPhone!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] AndroidPurity:
I am super happy with mine! This is the closest to a perfect phone I have ever had and I have had a lot. If the following things were changed then it would be the perfect phone to me....

- 8mp front facing camera with bigger pixels and/or better aperture

- Stereo speakers

- Charge at least a tiny bit faster.

- LED notification light

- Metal back like V20 (doesn't have to be removable)

- 6GB of RAM

If they do those improvements on the V40 and keep all other features, it will be amazing!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] PlayerR:
Picked up mine the other day, moving up from the V20. Love the phone so far, as a pro photographer I put the camera thru the paces & it's just as good if not better than the V20. Overall I like the lightness of the phone over the V20's heft, performance is def nice as is the screen. No lag issues either & I have it loaded with apps.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septembersrain:
I really would like to see more photographs! I'm not really a picture taker, definitely not a pro. I know the V probably stands for video but I just got this device for its light weight and band 71 mainly.

If you wouldn't mind sharing one or two in a hard to shoot environment like in the dark or really bright out?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonzey231:
Welcome to Android! Those speeds are very common for me on my 6P!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Can't do full metal back and have Qi wireless charging. I won't buy a phone without Qi wireless charging. All my phones have had it since 2013. You can have plastic, kevlar (like my Moto XT1225), glass, whatever, but not metal. And with IP68 rating, I think the only thing that will work is glass. Phones that don't care about Qi wireless can have all metal and IP68 -- but then I wouldn't be buying this phone.

But otherwise good list -- almost identical to a list I made in another forum about this phone.

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I get those speeds all the time on my 2014 Moto XT1225.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septembersrain:
I still have yet to use wireless charging! I'm so behind...

I feel like I stepped out of the stone ages after a few years with the iPhone devices.

I did like iOS but gee wiz, I didn't realize just how many features I was missing. This V30 has been quite a fun experience.

I'm catching up, slowly!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
Don't worry, the features make it to iPhones sooner or later. I'm still shocked that for a company known for its "design" that they still keep pushing those bezels. iPhone X is finally a step in the right direction for design but that notch, I don't care that it has mini Kinect in there.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] AndroidPurity:
Yeah, I am aware it wouldn't have wireless charging with metal build. But personally I can do without it. I have barely ever used it before on my previous phones. Especially with a phone that has really good battery life like the V30 and fast charging I see less need for it personally.

Plus I use my phone while charging a lot, and with wireless charging you can not use your phone and charge it at the same time. So thats the biggest hang up for me with wireless charging.

Although I see your point with the IP68 rating. That is important to me, but it's not a deal breaker for me. Although I think a metal phone could be made IP68. For example there's metal on the sides of the V30 and other IP68 water proof phones. So I do not see what limitation there would be.

If a partial metal phone can be IP68, then why can't a fully metal phone be IP68? Of course theres a rust concern of the coating/paint is scratched but it could still be IP68 I believe.

Anyways yeah, that list would be a dream. I think it's just a matter of time before someone get the entire list of a dream phone like that. Although this V30 is so close to perfect its crazy. The V40 might just be perfect possibly!