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[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] lycan_codex:
I am switching back from My note 9 and gonna use Pixel 2 Xl again. wanted to sell Note 9 and get S10 +, but looks like they screwed up Exynos 9820 again.

How is Pixel 2 Xl holding up? interms of battery life?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Prattham:
Aged well i guess due to its slow charging i rarely charge it over 90 so battery life conserved a bit
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
40-80% is the the golden rule for batteries. I have a laptop from 2014 and it still holds over 80% of the factory capacity even after almost 5 years.

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Nokia is slowly emerging as a great alternative to pixels. They are great with updates and nokia 9 camera is quite great.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hrithan2020:
Has anyone been able to enable e-sim for Pixel 2 XL for Airtel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
Q beta is ready join beta program :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
I'd wait for some feedback before installing the beta. Usually they are stable for daily use but as its the first beta app compatibility issues might be there.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
I will flash in afternoon just to check and if magisk support and Substratum working I'll continue using it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
check this

https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-dual-sim-dual-standby-support-pixel-3/
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Cool. Let us know if its stable enough to use as a daily driver.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
So what's the verdict on the Q beta 1?? Tempted to get on the Q bandwagon
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Had a RMA for my phone for a dead pixel at bottom left corner. The new screen is actually better. Way better actually. Much warmer tone and less blue shift.

Plus they fixed the buzzing speaker too. I had that since first day, they fixed that totally, it doesn't buzz no more.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] amberjayna:
Installed Q Beta....using it since morning...no drastic changes...maybe magic is all under the hood. Can be used as a daily driver. One funny thing is dark mode is enabled by default..lol...and there's no option to revert back. Also in photos app upon opening a pic when you click top right menu ..the options under it isn't visible cuz the text and background are both white. Maybe they'll fix it in upcoming updates.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
it's good but without adaway and substratum it feels incomplete also it's too stable to be in beta mode.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Downloading now...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Just installed the beta. All apps are working fine as of now. Ambient display is gone for me, double tapping the screen and picking up the phones directly lights up the screen like ios.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Does anyone else also has the pixel visual core service icon in the app drawer? Also icici bank app just wouldn't work on Android q, anyone else also facing this?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Not only the pixel visual core icon but feedback icon... And even the Nova launcher prime and Poweramp full unlocker icon... Something messed.. but that's expected
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Feedback icon was planned. I read somewhere they had intentionally put the feedback icon in app drawer to make it easy for people to report bugs.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Cool... Well so far the Q beta is pretty stable except for some hiccups here and there.. but those are only the Graphics Janks...

What I need to do is get used to the new navigation method of swiping to left for back... Is intuitive but muscle memory kicks in and I keep pressing the blank space where the back button used to be...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Yeah, its pretty stable for 1st beta. Haven't tried the new gestures yet.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Ok so tried the gestures. I don't like them at all personally. Gestures are pointless if they're going to have that huge ugly navbar.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Yeah... But that navbar will go will future iterations.. we can't just jump directly to no navbar... Gotta give time to people to adapt
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Yeah true that but they'll have to sort it out by final release as they are already behind other OEMs in terms of gesture.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
have you tried any substratum theme whether any of the theme working on Q
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Have never used or trusted substratum... It always causes system instability..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
that's all right but substratum and adaway are must have for me let's see I'm again installing q to check is it working or not.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
PSA... If you are on Q beta 1 don't update to Q beta 2.. the Google photos app is broken and you won't be able to see the pictures stored in WhatsApp folder or the screenshots taken...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
Did you manually add permissions to the photos app?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Yup.. doesnt work... got pissed and got my phone unlocked and flashed ABC rom
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] amberjayna:
Can anyone confirm if gesture navigation is broken in Beta 2? The pill swipe gesture to move between recent apps is not working for me anymore.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
It certainly is for several people evidently on the P3XL forums as well.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nitin.chobhe:
That's sad :(

I am desperately waiting for call from Reliance Digital to collect the phone ;) The guy said he would call me in afternoon today :fingers-crossed:

Yes, the fabric cases look awesome! How did you order from US? Links and process please

Nitin
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nishant786:
I ordered it from the Google store and had it shipped to my sister in the US. As long as you have a USA address you can pay from India. Shell be getting it in first week December.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
I too loved the case however it feels so overpriced at 40 dollars.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nishant786:
Yeah it is. But I have this psychological thing about official cases. Plus unless the case isn't at-least as good as the phone, quality and design wise, the whole experience gets ruined.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Well that's definitely true. Official cases do have a great feeling. I hope Google launches the fabric and live cases in India too.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nishant786:
Yeah that's probably never going to happen. OG Pixel cases never came to India.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
I read an article a few days back. It had reference to posts by US customers in google/pixel forums. If I remember correctly, It stated that google hasn't shipped a single panda since 1st Nov. Hope that's not the case in India.

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I ordered my P2XL 128GB JB from Flipkart on 27 Oct. Estimated delivery date is 16 Nov but I don't see any change in the status. Its still stuck at 'Your order has been placed'. I doubt if I'll get it tomorrow.

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When have you placed your order?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit3221:
Same here JB 128GB. Order placed at 12.11 am on 26th Oct.

Still under processing.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
:crying:

So, it looks like we are not going to get it on time.

Last time my Nexus 6P's delivery got delayed, flipkart gave me 5K cash back to keep my mouth shut lol.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nishant786:
Exactly 12 am 26th October. [emoji22]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit3221:
Haha. 5k ain't enough to keep my mouth shut for a 82K phone. They gotta give us 10k at least [emoji39][emoji13]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] anushtup:
Anyone got the phone? It was supposed to be delivered today..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] vd1900:
My friend got XL2 yesterday from a local dealer
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nitin.chobhe:
Anyone got it from Reliance Digital yet?

Nitin
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
So i am not alone with the 64gig panda ... Well the calls begin from 16th... I bought a powerbank for free during the Nexus 6p debacle... Let's see what I buy for free when FK ****s up panda 2 XL delivery...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Horoscope:
I got mine 2 days back.. waiting for Case to be delivered from Amazon today..

will post pics later
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit3221:
Guys my Pixel 2 XL JB 128gigs shipped just now...

Its being shipped from Mahipalpur, Delhi.

So as of right now, The Just Blacks shipping is underway. Still no updates for the Panda folks.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] numerouknow:
Surprise surprise! Mine got shipped too. @12.05PM reached Mahipalpur Facility. Its in close proximity to my place. Roughly 14KMs away. Now I think I'll get it on time. :D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit3221:
Lol. And I'm 15 km away [emoji23]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] edios123:
Thinking of switching to a used Pixel 2 XL from an s7e for the time being. Waiting for pixel 4/iphone xi/ oneplus 7 for taking the real step.

What price should I be looking for for a very neat mind condition phone?

Are there any things I should specifically look for while buying a used one (speicifc problems or such)?

Will I miss anything from s7e except the display and headphone jack?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sachinkraj:
You can wait...

You can simply wait for all the devices to come out but still if you are done with all the thinking; then I would strongly recommend get the refurbished phone from 2gud.com , its a Flipkart service. Authentic and quality products.

About headphone jack, you may feel shame in few days but you will be used to it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Lakshay Sethi:
Wait for the new devices to launch. P2XL is old. Will not receive any major update. Hold off if you haven't purchased still.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ninjasumit:
Pixel 2 XL will receive android Q(2019) & android R(2020) officially. These are major updates.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ram4ufriends:
OnePlus 7 is just a month away if you are considering that
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Lakshay Sethi:
Wouldn't recieve R afaik.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ninjasumit:
Well, you are misinformed. Pixel 2 will receive android version updates till October 2020 and the new stable android update is released in August every year. So its guaranteed.

Source: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=en
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] blacklisted.rock:
..

I just bought a used Pixel 2XL at 20k

It's condition is pretty OK, was getting s9 around 26 but chose pixel for camera ofc.

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So you got a replacement phone or what?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ReVo_007:
Did Airtel roll out the VoLTE support for Pixel 2 XL ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ninjasumit:
Nope. Also, it has to be rolled out by google. Airtel can't do anything by itself.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ICEMAN_SID:
It is wierd that Google is not releasing VOLTE for a major operator in India for a 60k phone and in 2019.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Google doesn't care about the Indian market specially when it comes to hardware. They price their products outrageous in India and support is so and so.

Even when the original pixel was launched it didn't support Jio volte. They did enable it later. Now they are doing the same with Airtel and Vodafone. I seriously doubt they'll do it anytime soon as they don't make much money in India anyway. If it wasn't for the camera, I'd ditch pixel in a heartbeat.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Yep.. pretty much agree on that... Would have ditched the pixel had it not for the pure stock and camera .. keeping my options as well now ... Might go for OnePlus 7 or pixel 4 depending on which looks better...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
I might consider OnePlus 7 pro as well. Camera is said to be a major improvement also 90hz 2k panel and ufs 3 storage seems intriguing. Pricing is going to be around 50k.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Prattham:
I was too intrigued by it but moving camera parts that I'm not so sure of
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Moving camera is no go for me too specially in a a city like delhi where dust is so prevalent.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ninjasumit:
I have filed a complaint against Google on National Consumer Helpline (https://consumerhelpline.gov.in). I request all of you to do so and it takes only 10 minutes of your time. This is the only way left to wake up Google. VoLTE is basic feature now and since our phones have official support till October 2020 we are entitled to get it. Google is limiting customer choice of telecom operator by only supporting VoLTE on Jio. This is unfair and biased and should not be tolerated.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] :
They didn't replace phone. Changed screen and speaker
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Don't know if it's a hogwash.. a fluke... But try disabling usage access of Digital Wellbeing and use the phone... There was thread on reddit where the user was frustrated with lags/jitters and poor ram usage and after trying everything and documenting everything... He got Digital Wellbeing disabled by stopping it from usage access and everything was good..

I tried doing the same just to check and can actually feel the difference..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] 100rabh7791:
Saw the same post today. Will monitor the usage
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
Android q beta 3 images are ready to download

https://developer.android.com/preview/download
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Installed it during the io announcement only. Seems pretty smooth and full gestures finally although the back gesture kind of ruins the in app ability to swipe right from edge to access settings etc. Have to use the hamburger menu in all apps for the time being.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Google has lost it in India. They have priced 3a at 40000 when devices like OnePlus 7 will be priced similar or lower. Who the hell in going to pay 40k for 3a when pixel 3 is available at 55k. And they wonder why they are failing.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Prattham:
They don't care about the Indian market because sure it looks like that
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
Pricing is just a joke to these companies considering the Indian market behaviour they announce these phone as affordable according to western market however here it's still expensive. For this price range there are so many option to choose from why would a budget friendly user will choose pixel 3a.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Exactly, they should have priced 3a at 25k. It would have been a great move.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] zenjedi:
Blame it on import duty. I think they are tapping the price and value conscious segment because its impossible to compete with Xiaomi etc without Indian manufacturing presence. But even having said, it would be difficult to justify lower spec cpu at a higher price point than say a OP6T. The 3a line has to really deliver a Glorious user experience from day one to attract attention from Indian users.

After having used a pixel, I'd definitely look at it. A 15% price cut would make it attractive to me. But for a price conscious consumer, it will not even figure in the initial consideration set.

Also maybe we need to realign the way we look at these phones. What I'm saying is that we look at the specs separately and decide the overall value proposition that the device offers. But what matters is the experience and its ability to deliver at a reasonably fast pace and longer duration. This reiterates my point on considering the phone because of prior exposure to a pixel. Sometimes even a camera shot is enough to win over value conscious user.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
With 20% excise duty also, 40k cannot be justified for a 400 dollars phone. Anyway they'll maybe realise the same in a few months when the phone fails miserably in India.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
It's funny when people think that pixel 3a was specially made for poor markets... It's made for US and UK and other rich bastards... giving an option for others to buy a phone instead of Samsung's and Apple's

In India only Google stock purists will buy this phone if any...

Also given the camera quality.. it's way better than OnePlus or any other brand can provide at this time.. but it's a fickle argument...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] zenjedi:
I agree it doesn't. But if they launch pixel 4 at 80k then maybe by then 3a will make more sense. :laugh:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
In future I think Google will fall in line like apple doing right now and assembling some iphones in India that is the only option for them to survive in mid tier shares on buyers.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Nah... Google aint doing that .. plus Google is not a OEM... It contracts to either LG or HTC...

India is very price sensitive market.. that the reason apple isn't anywhere close to no.1 brand... Xiaomi is ..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
Yes i totally forgot that part but somehow they have to adapt to Indian market otherwise OPPO xiaomi vivo will rule mid tier forever.

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has anyone tried rooting dp3?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] zenjedi:
They can't compete with the likes of Xiaomi or even Samsung especially on price. Unless they are able to find an Indian foxconn. Or for that matter the next a series may be manufactured by xiaomi or vivo. Xiaomi mi a series is a good fit for next pixel a, with the niggles ironed out.

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Read that it is possible with Twrp 3.3 and magisk 19.2 canary
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ICEMAN_SID:
Google launch prices are anyway atleast 20% higher than what their phones deserve.. Meanwhile pixel 2 line gets time lapse feature finally..:)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] lycan_codex:
Any idea what is the screen replacement cost for Pixel 2 XL now?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
I think magisk 19 is causing bootloop and magisk 18.1 is working fine that I can confirm.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] zenjedi:
Yeah 19.2 messed up my phone. Yet to try 18.1
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ninjasumit:
https://www.xda-developers.com/user...gital-wellbeing-improves-performance-pixel-3/

Everyone should try this. It really enhances the overall performance and makes the UI snappy. Just turn off usage for Digital Wellbeing in settings.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Well duh!! Have been testing this since the reddit post first came up... And after a couple of charge cycles can genuinely tell that my phone was last charged 3 days back with 3:30mins of SOT and I am 49% as we type...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Prattham:
Interestingly i even disabled the digital wellbeing from settings but i cannot see any difference
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ninjasumit:
Mind sharing some screenshots of those battery stats? 3 days standby with 49% battery left is only possible if you are not using the phone at all.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Here they are..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ninjasumit:
Thanks for sharing. As expected, very light usage. And you have restricted 49 apps under adaptive battery, that's insane. Probably one of the reasons for your extended battery life.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Yeah was WFM these past fee days... So got a tablet to do browsing.... Also I have pretty much every app except google apps restricted... So that's a plus..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Anyone going for OnePlus 7pro?? I'll be honest the thought did cross my mind but then sense prevailed and I'll wait for the Pixel 4 leaks before deciding...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sachinkraj:
For me, a clear NO only because of the camera and I love the rest of everything about OnePlus 7 pro. My usage includes 90% of photos and rest etc things. So I am still sticking with my Pixel 2XL, which is running great btw. Yes, I will keep an eye on Pixel 4, if it's worth the upgrade; especially in the design part, I care more (which failed in Pixel 3XL).

OnePlus is trying hard but not that hard it could come close to the level of photos a Pixel device clicks from a single camera.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
90% photos... What's your job mate???
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sachinkraj:
LOL, good question; my job is the father of a very cute and naughty kid. On a daily basis, I click 100+ photos. And obviously other photos too :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Lakshay Sethi:
Waiting for the same. Improved design and battery life in Pixel 4, I hope.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] alekhkhanna:
Anybody using a Google Pixel (any variant) has experience with B2X ?*

My phone (P2XL) fell from my hands, and even though the screen did not crack, the display has blacked out. The phone turns on (get the vibration on starting), can receive calls (ringtone audible), but the display stays off.*

Have given the phone to B2X today, and just for the screen change, the cost is 16k. Price can increase if further internal damage is visible. Estimated time is 7-10 days.*

If anybody has experience with B2X, do let me know.*
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
I think someone in this thread had hardware issues in the past and availed B2X service further if you are from Delhi then you can go to karol bagh it will much cheaper and quick.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] alekhkhanna:
I was one of the peeps who dealt with B2X just a day after buying my P2XL. It was for OLED burn in, but it cleared itself off and they just returned the device without doing any repairs (after 7 days).

Not really interested in outside repairs as phone is still under warranty till Dec end. But since this is a hardware issue, they'll be charging for it.

I'm looking to hear about repair experience.