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[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Cristianm4691:
Thanks man! I hope Normal mate 10 get this update too!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] ErnestoD:
Ive been reading in xda and 8.0.0.119 brokes nigth mode.

But I also read that a full reset maigth solve this problem
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] tokoam:
I have tried full reset ,still broken
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JqBYczJ9nV72cSuUA

here there are some photos that i took 3 days ago. i went to Alanya and mate10 pro showed its muscles, i think. still in low light it has paint brush effect a lot but in good light conditions it has skills. one photo from castle can show you guys how well mate10 pro handle exposure. you can see outside and inside, it's amazing.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JqBYczJ9nV72cSuUA

here there are some photos that i took 3 days ago. i went to Alanya and mate10 pro showed its muscles, i think. still in low light it has paint brush effect a lot but in good light conditions it has skills. one photo from castle can show you guys how well mate10 pro handle exposure. you can see outside and inside, it's amazing.

i hope you like them :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Newport Dave:
A recent night shot taken after midnight at my place of work.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] DominatorX1:
Great photos! ;)

What mode was it, and have you applied some filters.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
No filter is used, just AI. And thank you :good:
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] DominatorX1:
So it was all on auto mode with standard colors, no vivid colors mode, or smooth. That is great if so. I am asking so to know how these beautiful photos are taken.

Regards
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
Oh you are asking that. Sunset photos were taken by smooth colors. Mostly smooth colors but standard was used as well. :o
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] xiaotaozhi:
well

do better
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] djln:
Hello

I have the mate 10 pro since its release, I am mixed about its quality photos, especially the auto mode, the automatic treatment is a disaster, at the level of the faces it has a painting effect especially when the lumonisity is strong, the photos are saturated and some are unusable. My children look like wax dolls.

No updates corrected the problem. B350.

My old phone was doing better. S7.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] domy_os:
Switch to smooth colours, it looks much better for me.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] exaflare:
View attachment 4603798

Literally Scotch on the rocks :laugh:

Mate 10 pro still on android 8.0
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] dan mc:
The only mode that doesnt have vignetting is standard - vignetting really wrecks alot of photos when on smooth or vivid mode - heres a screenshot of the different modes taken from online (smooth, then vivid, then standard) Vignetting can be added later on in editing without it being forced onto the original photo and possibly wrecking your photo - Saturation can also be increased in editing to match the other modes without the vignetting if you stay with standard - Edit - tried to add a screenshot showing the 3 differences - BBcode is beyond me although i do have the comarison image hosted and have the bbcode to it - but it wont show [IMG="pics"]

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[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Hildr:
That's the vignetting of the sensor, all RAW I take have this vignetting, it's really boring. The lens are not that good for a Zeiss thing, never had such thing with previous nokia and Microsoft phone that were Zeiss too.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] dan mc:
Nah its one of thefilters that huawei adds when "smooth" or "vivid" mode is selected - google up a few reviews you will see it mentioned, and also mentioned that standard mode doesnt apply a vignetting filter like smooth/vivid modes do (or just try it yourself on a blue sky - its pretty obvious even in the viewfinder flicking between them)

Ps - Its a leica not a zeiss
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Hildr:
Ho! Yeah Leica! My bad... Then that explain a lot. Dunno why in my head it was Zeiss.

Well, vivid and smooth add a strong vignetting filter, I never used those mod cause not realistic, so I assumed it was the same vigneting that the lens produce: all the raw I have taken with this phone, with camera or other app, have also a more or less visible vignetting, without any filter, cause RAW/DNG. And without smooth/vivid setting set on of course.

I have to take 5 min each time to edit the photo with lightroom to reduce this effect, pretty boring since the vignetting vary with the scene (cause it's a lens artifact, like old camera) and I can't just apply the same correction for each shot.

Just try to take a raw shot of blue sky, you'll get the vignetting without any filter, and a pretty strong one :/

But why did they add this vignetting effect? Chinese tastes in term of imaging, in photo or TV, are pretty weird.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] dan mc:
Yeah I have no doubt the photos suffer from normal vignetting as well :) - but crikey those "smooth" and "vivid" settings take it to a whole new level (and done deliberatly in software)

From what Ive read (a while ago I read alot of stuff before buying this phone) the "smooth" setting is supposed to imitate the old leica cameras, the "vivid" setting is there for crazy saturation some people seem to love maybe for flowers etc - and the "standard" mode is really a "dont run filters keep my shot original" setting

I agree with your assessment of the chinese having a unusual idea of what looks good in a photo ahhahahahaha - which is why i stay in standard mode - and also go pro mode so it doesnt add filters itself anyway overriding riding my choice of "standard no filters thanks"

You can still get some pretty tricky shots considering its a phone tho - im happy :) (just a screeny of a star track shot which i think is a pretty cool mode to include)

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Thought maybe i should include some pics myself now I think i worked out the bbcode - grabbed some Ive taken locally with the mate 10 - but they are all over the place "mode wise" as I was learning what worked and playing with the editor and things (dont get too excited about the moon photo - i was holding the phone to a telescope lol)
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] golddragon97:
Photo Quality Issues?

I upgraded from a Moto X Pure a couple of months ago to a Mate 10 Pro. The Mate 10 Pro plays with light and does everything right for the most part. I am a casual user who doesn't touch the manual controls. Coming from a Moto X Pure with a 21MP sensor (I know MP isn't everything) means I could take very detailed landscapes in good light.

I always use the 20MP setting on the Mate 10 Pro unless I need to zoom in, which I never really did. People have told me it's pointless to zoom in, but hey, I'd like to zoom in into a flying saucer in my photo. Sometimes I take picture of professors' notes sitting in the back of the classroom, so some zooming headroom in the photo itself will do wonders for me.

There are some things I am still scratching my head over:

Photos:

1. The photos are very muddy, looking like wax, even when I zoom in the slightest bit on the photos. By this, I mean taking the picture in 20MP mode and then zooming in to look at details. Even without zooming in, the photos seem to lack detail.

2. Could it be that Huawei camera app compresses the photos a lot? I take a picture of some scenery and the Moto X Pure would produce 7.5MB images while the Mate 10 Pro produces images about 4.5MB.

3. I know smooth and vivid modes will take away the detail, but the difference from normal mode shouldn't be that big of a difference?

Video:

Video is a bit too shaky, seems to be on par with my old Moto X Pure, which only has EIS.

A sample video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvHAuU7NyIA

I forgot I turned on vivid mode for this video, my bad.

Crazy how I'm having "problems" when so many reviewers have praised the camera for producing very detailed pictures and having rather good stabilization. The pictures the reviewers publish seem way better than what I have. Seeing the photos posted above makes me even more confused. Can't help but keep comparing to my previous phone, but I feel like as a flagship phone that's three years ahead, I feel like the camera doesn't deliver.

Are those issues I've stated really issues or is it just the way the phone is? Are many people having these issues? I haven't heard of people complaining about these issues I have, either. Are there any solutions to these issues? From day one since I've started using the Mate 10 Pro, I haven't factory reset the phone. I'm pretty sure it's software related, so I don't think the camera modules need to be replaced.

Photo samples:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i3u2lvigldrhsx9/AABoWnlxqnY6Dy_NokYaNCHMa?dl=0

Thank you for your time.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] exaflare:
Handheld night mode is great when viewed as whole in web page especially on social media sites, or for small size prints.

Just don't zoom in for pixel peeps ?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Hildr:
I'm sorry to tell you it's the way the phone is. And the way most recents phones are. The post-processing is heavy to not show grainy shots, even if it means a loss of details. I looked at the shot from a Iphone XS on GSM arena and this asian trend seems to spread. When I had a lumia950XL, the photos were not as good in term of exposure and overall lightning thing, but they appeared less fake, cause there weren't like oil paintings.

But well, most of beople don't want details, they want photo with no "default", just look at the selfy mode!

To read you professor's note, just shot in RAW format (right pannel, "RAW photo when manual mode"). The manual mode is auto if you don't touch anything so you don't have to worry with the parameters, and the raw will not get the smoothering effect.

With a little work, you can use the Adobe lightroom app, no need for the subscription, the free part is enought to edit your raw. You can also use the in-app camera to take your photo in DNG format.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
For selfies, you can use this :

https://xdaforums.com/mate-10/themes/google-camera-comparison-pictures-t3849136

I tried and it has a lot of details and much more realistic light and if you configure right, colors become right too.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] golddragon97:
Thanks for the reply! Gave me a good insight on how things have changed. Couldn't help but think new phones are a downgrade in one aspect. I just bought a Mi 8 for my father that's still on the way, so hopefully the issue doesn't persist on that phone, or not as bad. I thought it just might be Chinese phones that may behave like that, but hearing the XS performs like that is surprising.

Yeah, tell me about the selfie mode. The beauty mode scares me and it defaults beauty mode to be turned on every time, too. Speaking of exaggerated photos, my parents' Nexus 6s produce very saturated colors and actually look pretty detailed, so I was surprised the Mate 10 Pro acts the way it does. Could it be resolved via a custom patch or some other universal software change?

Thanks for the advice regarding RAW mode. I'll try it out and might even force me to learn some Adobe software.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Hildr:
It's less pronounced on the new IPhones, but I find it present. All reviewer found the photo beautiful, but the same went for the mate 10.

I don't think they will change anything, since most of people prefer photos like this. And for what I understood, phone with kirin processor don't have a lot of custom developement, cause not as easy than on Snapdraggon, hence my doubt about a good alternative camera app. An dthe ones on the store doesn't look that much better than the stock one, for me.

Don't worry with the adobe lightroom. The android app is pretty easy to handle with simple parameters.

Maybe my next phone will be a Pixel or a Nokia, I wonder if they are as good as the previous lumia series, camera-wise.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] golddragon97:
Night mode is pretty good. Taken many shots and was pretty impressed. Not a professional camera so I didn't expect much, but dang did it come out good.

You certainly got that right. Zoom in and you'll see melted wax.

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Thanks man. I heard many good things about Google Camera so I gave it a try, definitely like the simple interface. The app would crash every time I pressed on the shutter button or changed to the front camera, etc. Video, however, works.

Definitely waiting for the fix. Whoever create this definitely did a good job.

Edit: Photo mode works. I switched to video mode, recorded a few seconds of video and switched back to photo mode. The selfie camera still doesn't work, though, just crashes.

Edit again: Photo mode doesn't work again, will need to repeat above process after clearing app data.

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I see. Just now another user recommended me to use a ported version of Google Camera. That might be a good idea or at least make some changes, unless the AI chip or some other hardware interferes and does a lot of post processing. I sound like I don't know what I'm talking about, haha! I tried Open Camera and it takes pictures that come out like the stock camera app would.

Everyone is highly praising the Pixel. Before getting the Mate 10 Pro, I was reading the reviews on it and wanted one, until I saw the price tag.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
That's strange because mine works well. I changed the front camera base and 6p looks good but noisy. And portrait mode takes time to process. Hopefully it will work for you.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] exaflare:
Huawei done a great job and its very effective in social media which many people spend their time on.

Besides zooming in on a picture is a must only if we're going for large prints like tarpaulins for advertising ?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] djln:
Hello,

Bad Quality,

Here is an example of photo or faces looks like wax dolls on auto mode when the luminosity is high.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/40/4/1538654866-img-20180415-104931.jpg
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] wizard6601:
i see no problem :confused:

a normal picture in shadow/sun condition
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] djln:
thank you for your reply

Do not you see a painting effects on the faces?

In the same conditions the galaxy S7 was better and the treatment of the image does not give the effect of painting or doll wax.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] wizard6601:
if you zoom 100% , you can see painting effect on faces and also in all of other points of picture.

i think its normal in 100% zoom

i don know!:confused:
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] elgringoloco77:
I'm very disappointed with this phone, it's very hard to take a good picture all my photos are dark and blurred, with the s7 edge i just pointed and shoot and the images were excellent clear and very good detailed, what a shame.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
Taken yesterday, changed ex. Like -0.3-0.4 if i remember right, and like what it brings to me :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] ahhoe:
Raw food photo View attachment 4622843
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] exaflare:
Different colours of lenterns @ china town here in Ph

Handheld night shot
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
https://flic.kr/p/29Cvp5q

İ opened new account to share my experiences with mate10pro. I hope you all like them. If you have any advice for me please let me know :)

I couldn't find any profile link from mobile app so i leave one photo of mine.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
Taken this morning with x2 zoom, wide aperture. İ am very happy with the result
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] DominatorX1:
Hello!

What do you think is the Mate 20 Pro worth in terms of camera quality over the Mate 10 Pro. I searched on the net and it seems that the Mate 20 Pro has no OIS at all, with exception for telephoto which is not that useful. What is your opinion. I think our Mate 10 Pro still holds it pretty well.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Hildr:
So I just looked at the comparison photos from gsmarena tool, comparing mate 9, mate 10 pro and mate 20pro (and Iphone XS max). If we look at the wool ball, or the trains map, I don't know what Huawei wanted to achieve with the mate 10 pro, but it's the only one that is over sharpening and with this strong oil paint effect. Mate 9 and 20 pro are just good regarding these points, and that is regardless of the amount of light.

Shame there is no correction from huawei on the jpeg processing.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
X2 zoomed and one of the burst shoots.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] msandstedt:
Anyone who runs Pie Beta and the new camera app is there any difference to the better in the image quality?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
Night shot with x2 zoom. No tripod, one hand holds one side other side is rest to window
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] DominatorX1:
Nice shot.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
Both taken with night shot. Lamp photo was surprised me bc it is sharper than other night shots i have taked
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] wizard6601:
i think mate 10 takes good photo. just need some edit (for example , in Snapseed app)
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] CordonFreeman:
I got mate 10 pro after s8, s8 cam is better
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] DominatorX1:
This can not be true!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Asim Waqar:
How is the Mate 10 Night mode? .. I tried it but does not seem to be any better ?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
Some night shot at 7.10-15 a.m
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] impala65:
Three images: first is automode, second HDR and third is nightmode.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] BrimoFan123:
Does the camera save photos and videos on the SD card? I have "Priority save to SD card" option selected but all pictures and videos are saved on Internal Storage to DCIM\Camera folder.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] low0915:
What do you think of the photo quality in EMUI 9 update?

Anyone noticed that the photos are not over sharpening like it used to?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] mab71:
I feel like after I updated to PIE, all photo I took become soften, it looks very sharp on the viewer, but after took it, it soften, and blurry. Anyone face this issue?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] domy_os:
Camera quality is still disaster on Pie, Samsung makes much better photos and videos too. :( Look at this oil paint face, it's really sh*t.

1:1 crop
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
İ think Huawei has no intention to fix this issue because they dont think this is an issue. But if they release a phone to other regions, it should be the adjusted to what that region demands. They don't listen to us, not gonna fix i think. But in good light conditions, it becomes beast.

For me, still emui8 and i am uses gcam to take selfie or photo of people. It gives much detailed pictures

This is my album. You guys can check it and it may gives some idea.

Edit: https://www.flickr.com/photos/144893471@N08/
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] penfold:
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[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] belveder69:
I have tried my hardest but just can't like this camera. Outdoor shots are ok, but I like taking phontos of animals and my aquariums, and photo'ss on the Pro 9 are never clear. Will be going back to Samsung after my contract
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] felipy2k:
The camera quality is a random shoot .... the front camera is aways overexposed! i was reading ppl from P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro complaining about the same thing! Seems that Huawei dev are really bad ... probably will be my first and lat Huawei Phone!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Matthew700:
Me podrias pasar Gcam o el link,? tengo una pero hay que ajustar colores etc y cada escenarios es distinto y sresulta dificil hacerlo. Tengo Android Pie y no logro volver a Oreo.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] andrei80:
No gcam for Pie for now, unfortunately.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] mike_8:
Hello,

I recently got a new Mate 10 Pro. I tested the camera and I think that the photos looks ok, but the video quality is not as good. The videos in 4K look ok, but in 1080p/30fps and 1080p/60fps the videos look bad.

I updated the phone to Android 9 and EMUI 9 before I shoot the photos and the videos, so I don't know the quality before the update.

Another problem is that I cannot find the video stabilization ON/OFF setting.

I also saw that sometimes the autofocus is not properly working when shooting videos.

Are there any problems regarding the update ar my phone is broken ?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] baltobalto:
Your phone is fine. The video is a nightmare unfortunately...
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] DominatorX1:
Video is a good on 4K and 1080P without stabilizer. Since the update, the video stabilizer on 1080P can not be removed. Only 4K is with OIS only.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
9.226, where can I activate the raw photos or is it activated? Can't find them when I take photo
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] andrei80:
In Pro mode, go to Settings(cogwheel) and select resolution. There's a toggle there for RAW.

I only found it with the help of Google, so it's not a very intuitive placement, I think
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
I used to use night mode to have more dynamic range in daytime, sunset or sunrise times but i am currently 9.0.226 and when i try to use night mode in daytime, it just blows up the highlights to diminish shadows. I tried to fix focus and exposure than took photo but the result was always same. What can i do or is there way to fix this?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Warren_Orange:
Do you guys think it's worth it to upgrade my p9 plus to a mate 10 pro to improve picture quality? The upgrade will cost me £100. I will sell my p9 and buy a second hand mate 10 pro.

I'm riding across France in the summer and I want a better shooter for the trip. Plus the better battery of the mate 10 pro will be a bonus.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Hildr:
I would not go for a mate 10 pro to get an improvment on photo. Photos are over sharpened, watercolored, really heavy processed. Mate 9 is better for my taste. I'm looking to change my phone only because of the camera that I really don't like on mate 10 pro. Everything else is really good. But not the camera. Raws have a strong vignet effect.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] andrei80:
Camera is not that great sometimes, so this should not be the reason. Otherwise, it is a great package and still one of the better smartphones. I would get the P20 Pro because of the camera, if that is the main concern.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Warren_Orange:
Interesting thanks.

I'm somewhat surprised as the DX0 website rated it so highly but I had heard about over sharpening on other reviews.

The pixel 2 XL is on offer at a major high Street retailer near me and I'm very tempted.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] JoshuaLintag:
If Photography is your concern then get the Pixel 2.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] sly751:
I like the photos of my Mate 10 Pro, but some would say that the photos are little oversaturated.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] exaflare:
[IMG="Sailing"]http://oi65.tinypic.com/wsmc90.jpg[/IMG]

Taken june 1, 2019 @ Boracay Philippines

Mate 10 pro

Drop shadow frame via Photoeditor & custom made watermark
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] andrei80:
It can take some amazing photos. The only scenario where it mostly fails is when there are moving subjects and not so great lighting, which is a shame. Great phone, nevertheless...