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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] kergefarkas:
Here are my experiences after a week or so, with my first Pixel 2 XL (so far it doesn't seem to become an RMA). First, to stay on topic & screen quality:

- I have/had the blue shifting, when I tilted the phone around 25-30° angle vertically ("up"), and around 60-70° horizontally ("sideways"), but either my eyes got used to it, or it is only that dramatic/drastic when viewing mostly white background material (like the setup screen) with very high brightness. On photos, videos, YouTube, games it's not noticable at all. When my girlfriend played with the phone for an hour or so, I asked her how distracting the blue shift has been. Her answer: "what blue shifting?" (she has an S8 for reference, so she knows what amazing display quality is). I use it with the new saturated color scheme.

And the rest:

- Fingerprint sensor works fast, it is really accurate and even works perfectly if you put your finger there sideways, compared to how you recorded the fingerprint. It has problems after a shower or some sweating though (in the gym, for example)

- Phone charges properly & really fast (using the Google cable, waiting for some spare cables to arrive), doesn't turn off or anything like that. I would say it charged from 20-30% to 100% in about 2 hours, from my laptop (battery temperature has an effect on the charging, as it turns out)

- Camera is excellent, portrait mode rocks, although it misses sometimes (like it cut off the top of my hair in a selfie, or when using it for nature photos). Low light is hands down the best for a phone, and I would say it beats most point & shoot cameras to the pulp easily (not DSLRs, but those tiny, compact digital shooters that fit in your pocket)

- Selfie quality is extremely good (I was never really a selfie man myself, but damn, this phone might very well make me one)

- Grip is good, it feels safe in my hands (although I do have long fingers, so I can hold these big phones safely without a hassle)

- Fingerprint sensor notification scrolling is neat (you have to enable it)

- It doesn't run out of RAM (seriously)

- Hardware-heavy games (I play DC Legends mostly, and some silly time-killers which could be run on a calculator) do take a toll on the battery, but you can still get 4-5 hours screen on time for these games (in QHD)

- Bluetooth music streaming is gentle on the battery, even if the music is continuously streamed from the internet, it won't decrease your battery more than 3-4% per hour

- Restart / power on is blazing fast, around 15-20 seconds

- Burn in or image retention is not visible (I'm not actively looking for it on purpose, just wanted to point out that casual usage won't show it)

- Outdoor visibility is great, never had any problems seeing what's on the screen

- No cracking sounds during calls or stand-by

Here are some photos & a video (although I took the video only for fun & to check the Star Wars AR stickers, so might not be the best quality): https://photos.app.goo.gl/PGiIhnRSCK8WflTW2
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
I guess. If you like colors that aren't even close to showing real life. Personally, when I look at my phone screen I want it to be as close to what I would see with my eyes looking at the original object as possible.

Use your phone to take a picture of something like a stop sign. Compare the picture with all 3 color modes to the actual stop sign. What color mode most closely matches the actual stop sign? It's not "Saturated" that's for sure.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
This!

Saturated profile is way too much, and is not real at all. I like punchy colors, but is an overkill.

Each time I enter Play Music, the orange looks more like reddish or maroonish.

I have taken pictures with the Pixel and look them into a screen, and the difference is really noticeable. I discovered that pictures taken with the Pixel look nice mostly because of the oversaturated extra punchy screen.

I wish Google could just make a profiler like all the other companies and let us choose about screen calibration, like colors and temperature.

:crying:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] butty1234:
Does the number of brand new devices that are appearing on eBay and Gumtree indicate the number of people unhappy with the screen? Seem to be an awful lot!

---------- Post added at 09:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 PM ----------

I got mine from carphone warehouse with a late December manufacture date, it had really bad blue tint and horrible screen grain. Looked like it was printed on sandpaper!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Reeonimus:
I just got my panda 128GB from Freedom Mobile (Canada) on Jan 19. Looked up the IMEI and it says Nov 11th build date. Now I haven't really been paying attention to news so I had no preconceptions going into this purchase. Coming from Samsung phones I had no initial qualm or quarrel with this device. I found the colors to be washed out a bit compared to them but not in a bad way. Then I jump on XDA and all anyone can talk about is this blue shift. So I start paying extra attention to my screen and start tilting it around in different angles and think "Yeah I guess I can notice the colors shift a bit".

So I go back and I try the same thing with my S7 Edge and it does the exact same thing! Especially noticeable in the settings app with a more white background. Maybe i'm just lucky, but maybe some of you are doing what I did. The internet was telling me my device is bad and now I'm LOOKING for a problem that I never noticed on my own. I suggest some of you go grab a friends Samsung device, open up settings and start tilting the phone around. If you notice the same type of shift then congratulations, you have a normal OLED panel.

I have no doubt some of you got a bad panel, otherwise this wouldn't have blown up like this, but I think there might be some exaggeration/misinformation from some people who just want to feel wronged.

And for every person that says they got a phone with a December or January build date and the display is fine there's 3 more who say the opposite. I don't think they would have changed the manufacturing process, as they'd need more than a couple months to work with LG on fixing the panel else designing a whole new one .
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] pixelsquish:
Well said
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] sfetaz:
I just got P2XL Verizon variant from Beat Buy and the blue shift is waaay noticeable from even a 10 degree tilt. Is it true that in order to request an RMA from either VZW or Google that there must be a different problem like burn in or other defect, or are they allowing exchanges of blue shift screens?

Also, while I agree that saturated is not the most color accurate, the other modes look way worse and colors are really off to me. Literally coming from a Pixel 1 XL the colors of all modes are questionably off.

Should I consider returning the phone instead of trying replacements since I'm still in the 14 day window?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robn30:
So you seem to have a decent one and therefore like many others are saying the issue is exaggerated. Read through this entire posting and see the links to YouTube and what some people have received and say those folks are exaggerating. I'm sure there are many others who are simply living with their extremely blue display because they don't know any better. They may notice that it's very blue when a white background is present but simply think that is probably how most phones are. The issues are real and not just tied to the display. Not the type of quality one should expect for $900+. I personally have never seen a Samsung as bad as the few Pixel 2 XL's I've seen, but I'm sure they are out there, just not to the level of the Pixel from what I can tell. I've looked at a dozen different S8 variants and none had poor displays. Looked at 3 Pixel 2 XL's and all were unacceptable with one having bad grain as many have indicated here. There simply should not be that much variance among 3 different devices. While the Samsung's all looked extremely similar. QA for Google is simply unsatisfactory and Samsung's QA is far superior. Or it's a combination of manufacturing process and QA. Whatever it is, it's not fake news I can assure you of that. Glad you got a decent one. I'm still skipping this one unless they refuse the price by $300, then I might roll the dice and hope to get a good one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
Yeah I agree that something is wrong with these devices. It took me 6 or 7 phones I can't even remember before I got one that I liked. So how do I have the first few with awful blue tint and a couple grainy to the one I have now that is almost perfect. Makes no sense their must be something wrong somewhere in the manufacturing or quality control process
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dunbat:
I've got this phone for about 5 or 6 weeks now and to my luck I have no burn ins at all. Fingers crossed it stays that way.

The blue shift is undeniable, but it's far from what I've seen in various YT videos. I can acknowledge the blue shift being kind of a downside especially for more than 900 bucks. But to be honest, I doesn't strike me while using it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cecho:
Well, they are two different types of panels by two different companies. My question is whether this is a calibration or quality issue.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Jooosty:
Yeah I think Samsung panel will naturally look more vibrant than the others. That's the one used in the Pixel 2, and I agree it looks more vibrant.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mlin:
Just got back from the Verizon store and I'm so happy I went. I can confidently say this will be a non issue for me if my phone looks as good as the display model. I noticed the subtle blue hue as the device is rotated around it's axis but can't say that I'm bothered by it. Interestingly, trying the same thing with my current pixel XL I feel like the warmness is decreased with rotation, almost like a loss effect vs the gain (of blue hue) effect in the 2 XL. While I've used my Pixel XL for the last year with sRGB on, I will likely use Vibrant mode on the new XL. I was surprised after reading this thread and reviews from the verge, ars Technica, Android central, etc that I actually preferred the 2 XL screen over my own XL screen in roughly 80% of comparisons I did. Worst case scenario is that there is a high degree of variance between the POLED displays which just won't bode well for Google, LG or consumers. But at least I have seen what a "good" screen can look like and I'm pleased with what I saw.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] murso74:
Turned on sRGB on my pixel, and I didn't like it at first. After a couple of hours I forgot I did that and didn't think twice about it. I think I'll be fine
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] SquallLHeart:
sRGB is the way to go.

oversaturated, over vibrant colors are too much for me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
Isn't the screen polarized? Which is why the viewing angle is so bad?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Shuthefrontdoor:
iPhones are probably the closest to natural color reproduction and the reviewers are saying pixel 2 XL isn't even close, they say the pixel 2 is closer though, sigh ?, I'm not going to be cancel my preorder but I doubt I'll be able be satisfied as im currently using a note 8 which probably has the best screen on the market right now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rsbenedict:
Where do you find out if sRGB is turned on/off? I checked the display options and it's not there.

Never mind. Found it!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] efenili:
Thanks for posting...at least based on this seems the panel is better than the V30 even if its not the best.

I get what a lot of the reviews have been saying and they aren't wrong to say that you should expect the best screen. That being said in real use I am not sure anyone is actually going to notice.

Reviewers would be saying way worse things if the screen was as bad as people are making it out to be. For the most part it seems they are saying they screen colors could be better but its still sharp and a good screen.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rkial:
People who have had it delivered.

Does turning Vivid mode on make any difference?

Is there any option under developer settings to turn sRGB off like the original pixels (had to be turned on in that)?

I dont mind sRGB. Just wondering if there is a simple fix for it and if there is, why arent the reviewers mentioning it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] kotaro_14:
I went to the Verizon store today and the screen is definitely not as good as my S8+. There is a noticeable blue haze to the display compared to the S8+. It was not nearly as clear nor accurate as the S8+. The regular Pixel on the other hand was fine. It showed more accurate colours and the colours were more pleasing to my eye. The showroom was quite bright, so I was not able to test the screen uniformity. I also did not really notice the dirty graininess of the screen during my short time there, but I'm sure it's there. I think for most people, the screen will be fine. But if you're coming from something that has a Samsung OLED screen or even a really good LCD like an iPhone, you will notice the inferior panel. Tbh, my OP3 has a better screen than the Pixel 2 XL. I'm still probably going to keep the 2 XL when it arrives next week b/c it's just the best Android phone out there imo.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] paranoid2007:
I don’t get, why Google always uses inferior hardware in their 1K models. At least Apple gives you some real value for your money with the iPhone X.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wazka2:
Google forgot this is not a Nexus program with good value for money handsets... But premium tier.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bradputt:
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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] saxelfur:
What I'm surprised about how the opinions differ about the sceen quality. Some reviewers seem to really hate it, while others hardly mention it at all. It seems pretty clear that the screen is sub-par for a 1.000$ device - but I won't know where on a scale of 1 (hardly noticeable under manufactured circumstances) to 10 (annoying every time I use the phone) this will be for me until I've used the P2XL for a week.

My hope is that since I'm not coming from a Samsung, but from a 2 year old Moto X Force (Droid 2 Turbo), the screen will still feel like an upgrade (or at least not any worse than before) - if that's the case, I will love the phone for everything else it has going for it. If the screen feels worse than my current phone, though, I'm probably not going to end up paying that kind of money...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] acridity:
A calibrated screen doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to be better because better is very subjective. When the screen is calibrated it shows the true color of the picture and needless to say Samsung phones are not Calibrated for that. A perfect example is the LCD TV's that everyone owns. A black scene on a LCD will look quite black albeit not inky black as in oled panels. However, if you calibrate those LCD TV's the blacks will look grey and the entire image will look as how the image looks like in real life aka "washed out" hence the reason why pixel 2 has a "washed out" color reproduction vs Samsung phones which are not really true to life. Not defending the pixel 2's screen but I think people have got the wrong idea when they talk about calibration.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] FMXP:
I know exactly what I'm talking about when I talk about calibration. My home theater TV is calibrated to cinema D65 and so I know what colors are supposed to look like.

And people should know that Samsung phones have had multiple color settings since the days of my old Galaxy Note II. When set to the modes which are not Dynamic, Samsung phones have the most accurate colors of any OLED phone on the market and easily beat the best iPhone LCD's. Displaymate has consistently rated Samsung OLED as the best phone screens year after year and it's not because Samsung pays them.

The regular Pixel 2 has a Samsung OLED screen and it's quite good. The problem isn't Samsung. It's LG.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] hilla_killa:
I dont know if google dis something different software wise compared to v30 or a completely different display cause this is pretty interesting. XL2 def is doing a way better with the "gray test"
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] benrees21:
I have to admit, after reading about the V30 I was worried! But seeing it in a store it's a good display. The only issue I have with it, is the reds are going slightly towards brown. I'm sure once you get it and start using it you will not notice over time. I won't make any final judgement though until I have my device in hand, which is being delivered on the 15th of November (have no idea how people have got them so early?).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Guyinlaca:
I got to see the Pixel 2 XL at a Verizon store. The screen is very good, but as many reviews point out, the colors aren't as vibrant as they are on the Note 8 or S8. Moving the display around reveals a blue tint and color shifting.

For those coming from LCD or other P-OLED devices, this should be no issue. If you're used to Samsung, it may bug you that blues tinge gray and reds tinge brown.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] stuff:
So I just received my RMA replacement due to my bottom speaker becoming extremely crackly and quiet.

Firstly, the speaker sounds great. So that's awesome.

But secondly, the display shows very little to no sign of blue color shifting.

I wish I had a way to capture this, but it is significant.

Also what I find odd, the newer phone is absolutely a warmer overall color than the older phone. I think some of these displays brighten up after they have quite a few hours of screen on time under their belt.

Also mfg date is December 16, 2017. Compared to October 8th 2017 on my old one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] ram4ufriends:
Yes, I find my replacements are warmer in the beginning as well
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wolfeyes30:
I received my replacement yesterday as well and the screen is warmer, more pop in color and a lot less blue tint as well. First phone was Oct 19 and the new one is Dec 15th.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] RoccoN4:
What do you guys mean by warmer? When I compare the same white background on my Pixel 2 XL to my PH1, the PH1 looks white where the Pixel looks not yellow but not as white. Is this the warmer everyone is mentioning?

Thanks
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
Warmer means that whites look more yellowish.

Also is normal because OLED screens tend to be more yellowish.

LCD screens give better whites overall.

:)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wolfeyes30:
Just not as cool/blueish white like my first phone but not yellow either. I tend to like cooler white and this new phone is perfect for my eyes
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] stuff:
Yeah the colors are not as blue-ish. But this might be a time thing.

Perhaps a few weeks of usage and the colors will balance out. I really don't think my phone was as cool in color when I got it on release date when I compared it to an iPhone 7.

But maybe my memory is wrong.

Regardless, my anecdotal evidence suggests they fixed the OLED issues (LG). Though it's still the same hw revision_10.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
That's nice that the speaker is better and little to no blue shift. Mine (October 12th build date) doesn't have much blue shift either. That's disappointing that it's warmer.

I just hit the 3 month mark yesterday. No burn in for me either. Probably 400 hours or so of screen on time.

That's a shame about the warmer screen. I wouldn't want the screen on mine to be any warmer than it is.

In my experience LCDs don't give better whites. I don't have a big sample size but the whites on my Pixel 2 XL look much better than the whites on my old Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X. If I can't get perfect 6500K whites I usually prefer whites on the cooler side but the LCD screens I have seen on phones tend to be a bit too cool. My Pixel 2 XL is warmer than the Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X but the right amount. Could just be bad color temperature calibration on the Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
You are talking of devices with more than 3 years in the market, and screen technology wasn't that mature at that moment. I think the best first LCD panel was the one from the Mate 9, and now that I have the U11+, I can say that display is gorgeous and perfectly calibrated.

I compared the Pixel 2 XL screen with my U11+ and even with the blueish tint in the Pixel, it looked yellowish compared to the U11+.

;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] onishchuk4:
RMA #5 is incoming... The 4th RMA was good enough at first. Warm display and blue shift was not a problem at normal viewing angles. But... The bottom speaker. Wow is it bad. By far the worse out of any of the 4 previous phones including the original. It's so distorted at higher levels that it completely overpowers the other speaker. Also, it makes the display vibrate to the point that I can't hold it in my hands without wanting to throw the phone against the wall. All the others ones had a buzzing lower speaker but not this bad. I honestly thought this phone was gonna be a winner but I think it's by far the worst built phone I've had in a decade. The last time I had multiple RMA's for a phone was the HTC MyTouch 4G and the HTC One(M7) and even those didn't amount to how many RMA's I've had to claim. Maybe 6th is the charm?

On a side note, anyone get the 128GB black version made in December or later? This is my 3rd RMA this and the other two were both made in mid October and mid November. I'm hoping I get a December or new build as I keep hearing that they seem a lot better overall.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jtwlbz:
I returned december build 64g due to horrible bottom speaker rattle at mid high volume.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Waibashi:
I always thought this was because of the sound being too loud making the phone vibrates a bit, you are saying this is not supposed to happen? I have the same symptoms on speakers. My biggest gripe right now is that once my phone connects to my WiFi it kills my chromecast devices...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] onishchuk4:
I'm not saying that at all. If you read my post again, you'll see that I said all of them crackle/rattle to a degree. I think that fact is unavoidable. This one just happens to do it in excess where I can feel it doing so in my hands and all over the display. My other 4 did not exhibit this.

Some have said that its due to an air gap as a result of improper adhesion between the display and the gorilla glass.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Waibashi:
My phone definitely does that everytime I show a trailer to my wife, the phone would vibrate in my hands. Also, the bottom speakers is 2x the volume of my top speaker, did it happen to you too?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] onishchuk4:
Mine vibrates, but the volume is actually balanced pretty good. That's what makes this so sad.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rickysidhu_:
Sort of an OT question, but my bottom speaker also rattles a bit even when it's at about 50%-60% volume. I was considering an RMA, however I got super lucky with my screen as there is barely any blue tint, burn-in or any other display issues.

Just worried if the replacement I get has a properly working speaker, but more blue tint - what would you guys do?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] GuiCunha:
Oh my god! So now we have another issue? Bottom speaker?

I have to buy it until 1st febuary to my friend take it to me to Brazil. Is it better give up to buy? I always ask because would be a problem with rma. Need to send to USA, than return to Brazil.