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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] :
Just a follow up from yesterday... I re ordered another last night so I can use my $350 credit for my trade in and I should have it Monday. Meanwhile the Pixel roulette wheel is spinning:fingers-crossed: I figure it won't hurt to give them one more chance and I will have a whole week to evaluate it before I'm out of my return window for the Note. I am a bit leery because the first 2XL Verizon took out of the box had the dead pixels syndrome in the upper right corner of the screen and the 2nd got returned but no problems with the Note. Either way I have nothing to loose but a little time or a restocking fee.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] em1nos:
Just got my two 2XLs a few hours ago. Both manufactured October 24. Both have an identical blue shift. Not extreme but still clearly visible on white backgrounds. Starts showing at about 30 degrees. Doesn't bother me much at all. I'm more bothered by the taps not being registered close to the edge. Great device so far! Keeper!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Winston1990:
Just received my replacement. Still same blue tint but I noticed one thing with my replacement. The blacks in dark videos is more detailed on the replacement unless it's my glass screen protector on the original.

IDK what I'm going to do.... I'm going to do more testing and possibly take off my glass screen protector on my original to eliminate any variables. I guess I'll live with the blue tint but I'm curious about these "other" issues.

Is there a master list of all known pixel 2 xl issues?

What is the best way to test the screen for issues?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] pcloadletter1:
It could be worse, you could have bought a $1150 iphone x that has red tint. People are already complaining about the samsung panel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Winston1990:
Ya I can't wait till the complaints and "issues" of the iPhone x start to roll out lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
Why should someone who is happy with the phone return it? I'm really happy with mine. No graininess, no uniformity issues and after 11 days and probably 70 hours screen on time I have no burn in (some people have mentioned burn in 2-3 days). As for the blue tint I do have that but it doesn't really bother me and about 3 days ago something happened that made it less noticeable.....I stopped looking for it. I just started using my phone like normal and stopped looking for the blue tint like I did in the first few days and I hardly notice it. And the battery life! I finally have a phone that has excellent battery life. No way am I going to give that up for blue tint that only shows up at an angle I don't even view my phone at anyways.

Yes, it is overpriced but what phone isn't?

The fingerprint scanner on the back is perfect. It's right where your finger would naturally be. Where else would you put it? On the front under the screen which would require an awkward stretch to reach and would make the phone even bigger?

Some people don't care anything about having a micro SD card. I literally have no use for one. They are slower than internal storage and 64GB (or 128GB) is more than enough for me and many others.

I'll admit that removing the headphone jack was dumb but between my Bluetooth headphones and using the adapter (which actually sounds better than any other phone I've had using the 3.5mm jack) I can deal with it. There still is the problem of not being able to charge and use 3.5mm headphones. That was a concern I had when I ordered the phone but after using it for 11 days it doesn't bother me as much since the battery life is AWESOME. If you really need that ability there is an adapter that allows 3.5mm and charging at the same time. That adapter certainly shouldn't be necessary and I'd much rather have the 3.5mm jack than not but, at least for me, it's really a minor issue that is very low priority.

For me the good things about the phone (performance, software, camera, font speakers, good design, good build quality and EXCELLENT battery life) far out weight any bad things (blue tint and no headphone jack). Especially that battery life. I mean 8 hours SOT with almost 24 hours off the charger is pretty damn impressive. My Nexus 5X, even when it was brand new, gave me at best 14 hours off the charger with 4 hours screen on time.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jr_mfn_p:
10-16 build date
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] kotaro_14:
They do, but the second one isn't all black and then there's this bright white spot out of nowhere. Still bad, maybe I will try again...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
I would get something else or wait to see if they improve. Doesnt seem likely to get a good screen
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] kotaro_14:
I visited http://www.nullabletype.co.uk/static/styles/blah2.html and went to third image (5% grey) which is the one right after the black one, lowered my brightness to basically 0, and went into a very dark room with no lights (obviously). The camera does exaggerate it, but it still should not be like this. It is noticeable in apps that use grey like the night theme on Relay for Reddit on the subreddit drop down menu at night on low brightness.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] TheDonXR:
Mine is pretty bad with the blue: https://youtu.be/W9n_wRukIEU
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] idkwhothatis123:
Okay. I am going to be the weird guy here. I rather prefer my colors to be on the cooler scale. I hate the yellow-ish warm tones of a display. I certainly see what everyone is talking about in terms of the parity between devices, but I don't think I mind it...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
You still wouldn't mind if it's not uniform and half the screen is warm the other half cool or really blue and shifting around at the slightest hint of tilting it on an angle? Even shifting around depending on where your eyes are looking at the screen straight on?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] idkwhothatis123:
I guess in terms of the extreme cases, yes I would be disappointed with the display. Mine comes in Monday so I am intrigued by the results there. I just haven't seen one in person, so I am only going off of pics and videos. Some are certainly worse than others, but from what I've seen, I wouldn't have sent back a vast majority of what has been shown. Just personal opinion I guess.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
FWIW cameras both still and video don't show the blue as bad as it is in person. Good luck I hope ya get a good one, I got my fingers crossed my 2nd one is a keeper. :fingers-crossed:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Krusej23:
Has anyone else noticed bad pixels show up on theirs? Mine has a pixel that is just stuck to green and won't go away. My phone is already being RMAed for the flashing screen but wondering if I'm alone with a pixel that is bad.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
Thanks for providing the information so I could do the same test. Mine has no issues.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] idkwhothatis123:
I have seen this on a few different posts now. The color that the pixel is stuck on varies, but definitely has been reported before
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] kotaro_14:
Would you be able to share some pictures? I tried requesting another RMA, but the rep denied me saying it would just be the same.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] AndrasLOHF:
I think I may have one stuck on black. Not sure though. Seeing as it's black I can't really tell if it's a scratch when turning the screen off.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Linwood.Ferguson:
Yeah, I've been trying to figure out how to measure that objectively.

I'm do photography seriously, and have two calibrated monitors, and when I show the same image on the Pixel 2 XL it's pretty darn true to those by eye. Much more so than my old Sony ZL which was pretty good also, and much much better than a lot of phones with just plain garish colors. Great for games and such maybe, but not real colors.

I was debating whether I can pull a color chart to the right size, and use a colorimeter to measure the actual response and compare.

But I do think the display colors look awfully good (viewed dead on -- yes, from the edge everything goes cold, cold blue). Try skin tones, especially someone pale, and compare. A lot of phones either wash them out or make them way too red or yellow.

If I can get actual color measurements that mean anything will start a thread, but I would encourage people not to compare to other phones, but to quality photographs, or hold it up beside someone's actual face.

PS. Yes, I am not excusing the blue -- it's too noticeable. It hasn't annoyed me enough to think to return it yet, but it takes very little angle to get too blue. Then again I don't read my phone at angles, and frankly have always wondered why they don't build a privacy screen into phones so you can ONLY see it straight on, like some laptops.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] galaxys:
^interesting, keep us posted on your testing color measurements!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Krusej23:
Mine only started showing up last night and now it's gone today.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pecata:
I had to RMA my first one becuase I had a pixel that won't turn off to display black color, it would stay red. On my second Pixel 2 XL I have pink hue in the middle of the screen (visible on white background) and random reboots... getting my third one this Monday. I am really hoping that third time would be the charm.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
I tested again in a darker environment with lower 5% brightness and I did get a little of what your picture showed but not nearly as bad. It's a more uniform no uniformity if that makes any sense. I tried to take some pictures but the only other camera I have is my Nexus 5X and the amount of camera noise at such low light made it unviewable. Sorry.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] meboy:
They can't refuse if you're in the window for return.

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There have already been tests.

It's not accurate to even sRGB.

The two tests also show the wide variation between displays.

Even a good one isn't going to do 100% sRGB, which is a low bar.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Krusej23:
My first and hopefully last replacement is coming Monday too. Hopefully everything is fixed in it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] :
Thinking the same here.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
FWIW they are refusing to RMA devices with blue tint, they'll only refund, stating your next one will look the same even if they don't look at how bad the blue actually is....NOTHING TO SEE HERE!! Clearly as we've all seen there's a huge variance in panels and quality. But google's **** don't stink so you can't tell them anything.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] raidflex:
Please link these "tests" from a review that actually has experience in photography and calibration.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Good read.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/4/...reen-oled-color-shift-issues-ping-counterping
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] quickstang:
That's a lot of patience. That's something I don't have, & after a 2nd issue, there would be no 3rd.

While I was really looking forward to this phone & pre-ordered, I'm so glad I canceled the day I started reading all of these issues a week ago. In fact, cancelled the day it was supposed to ship.

I can't believe how bad Google botched this phone on so many levels. Quality control obviously wasn't important to them.

It's sad, because there's people like me who would have bought one. But unless some miracle happens with newer batches, my $ will go elsewhere. I'm sure I'm not alone either.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
every day that passes I feel like that more and more myself. I might just end up pocketing the 500 cash and grabbing an essential phone until next year, see if they can get their **** together.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ghisy:
I have a 6P as well and I feel the same. I just don't know what phone I could get, I love "stock" Android too much (and unlocked BL and custom ROMs). I really hope Google get their sh** together (i.e. correct these screen issues) but, after seeing some of their comments on the 2 XL, I doubt it :(
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] meboy:
Links are in this thread. Find them yourself.

And nobody needs any experience in photography to use a calibration device to test the screen. Really shows how little you know..[/QUOTE]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] quickstang:
The screen issues were the first things, but over time it was burned out pixels, didn't pass QC, but was still shipped & notated it didn't pass, non responsive touch screens, reboots, no OS installed on some... The list just doesn't end.

On an Android forum, someone stated how those with the luxury of being in the US should keep swapping their phones until they get a perfect one. WHY? This is terrible advice. 1 chance, ok. The 2nd with issues & done. Especially different issues on the 2nd.

No piece of electronics are worth that headache or absolute need.

Also, the only way Google is going to get through their head is if people don't tolerate it.

Had this happened with the Essential phone, or say another company who isn't loaded with cash from other resources, they'd be done for.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] brnhrd:
I have mine still on pre-order (Europe), so I was wondering if I should just order two at once and return the worse one. That way, I could avoid the hassle of RMAing and being without a phone for weeks again.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robn30:
So will this be the new standard that we should expect? A $1,000 phone that is mostly awesome. Not for me, if I'm paying that much money it needs to be nearly flawless and a screen with significant blue shifting, black smearing, and possible burn-in after a week is a no go. My old Galaxy S4 does have some slight blue shift at angles greater than 50 degrees or so but it's uniform and able to be adjusted through all the display controls that Samsung allows. That is 2012 technology which seems to be what you are getting with the Pixel 2 XL, except the screen isn't even held to the QC standards of the Galaxy S4. We will see how all this shakes out with the iPhone X release. The Samsung 8 devices are superior to the Pixel 2 XL from a hardware perspective. If Samsung ever releases a Pure Android version, especially if it bootloader unlockable, I would be all over it. If Samsung did this there would be no reason to buy the Pixel. The Samsung camera is not quite as good as the Pixel, but it's pretty close. It's not even close when it comes to the display, the Samsung blows it away. So for now I will sit this one out, because for my $1,000 I expect more. It seems many others are willing to settle for less and therefore we can expect even less from Google in the future. Once they know they have enough customers willing to accept mediocrity, they will play to that crowd. They will probably lose the majority of us who expect excellence for the money we spend. If they lowered the price of this phone to that of the Nexus 6P, then it would be more in line with the quality that is being released.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
I agree. Also btw if my next P2XL has screen that's "too blue" and still get the nothing to see here from Google, Essential phone for me!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blinkin:
Subpar camera doesn't bother you? Oneplus 5t will be released soon...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
from what I understand the latest software has not entirely but mostly fixed the Essential's camera, and the AMA on reddit with full transparency was very refreshing compared to Google's nothing to see here, working as intended.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeWkgyUjFaw
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
And yes the 5T will be out soon, choices. Google dropped the ball on QC and refuses to take responsibility. There's literally no explanation of the 50 shades of blue yet, that goes for iphone x as well now. AND IF THOSE 2 GIANTS GET AWAY WITH IT...THIS IS THE NEW NORM FOR PHONE SCREENS...UNACCEPTABLE!!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] AndrasLOHF:
You people *****ing about the price do realize that the cost you're paying is for more than just hardware right? Name another Android manufacturer that is PROMISING AND DELIVERING on their promises of timely OS and monthly security patches. Go ahead.....NAME ONE of them besides Google. I'll hold my breath and die before any of you can. I understand that many of you are young or have no business sense to realize just how costly something like that is for a company to do. It's an ongoing expensive cost every month of the year for 3 years to do what Google does. Samsung can afford to shove every piece of high end tech that they can into their devices because they have the sales volume and the clout to tell their customers to shove it and that they're not getting anymore updates far earlier than the hardware being at end of life. I'd be willing to bet that if they sold these at 500 bucks a pop for an absolutely perfect device (basically a hypothetical total cost of a device)then charged you for the cost of each update y'all would complain about that as well.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] ruthlesset:
Colors are inaccurate

Has anyone checked the "Google Pixel 2 XL - My Verdict on Screen - FULL REVIEW" by JimsReviewRoom. He brings up a very good issue with the screen calibration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpV_veq3cx8

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpV_veq3cx8[/YOUTUBE]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] TheDonXR:
I made a YouTube video showing the difference in blue shift https://youtu.be/W9n_wRukIEU
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blcklab:
I happen to really like my pixel 2 xl but for $450 maybe I'll also buy an essential.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] js0uth:
I feel you. I also canceled my preorder the day before it was suppose to ship because of all the bad reports pouring in. But I also thought these are only the bad units being reported and I'm sure there are more perfectly fine units than there are bad. I decided to take the plunge and I received a perfectly good unit minus the blue tint that I absolutely don't mind. Worst case just return the thing. Don't see the big deal of taking a chance and just returning it if things don't work out. Happy camper here.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
Then fine. Don't buy it. No one is telling you to. My reply was to the post saying that everyone should return it. There are people that ARE happy with the phone.

The display certainly isn't perfect but in my opinion it's still pretty damn good. I have no black smearing and, as of 13 days having the phone, still no burn in. No phone is perfect and if blue tint is the only trade off(for me that's been the only thing) I have to make to have an otherwise great phone I'm ok with that.

I don't know if the Samsung phones are better overall in terms of hardware. They all have the same SoC. The Pixel has the better camera and better speakers. The Samsung phones have all glass backs which makes them more fragile. And then there is the Bixby button. A hardware button that is basically useless.

And give more credit to software. In that area the Pixel 2 kills Samsung. It's cleaner, less bloated and faster. And, again, Bixby is a joke. The location of the fingerprint scanner is a joke. Especially on the S8+ and Note 8 where it's basically useless.

After my experience with a Galaxy S2 and seeing little improvement since then (especially after a few months of owning it) I won't be buying a Samsung phone.

Also, battery life on Samsung phones sucks.

To be battery life and great software experience is more important than having the best screen considering the screen I have is still pretty damn good.

So if having a somewhat better screen is more important to you than a better overall experience and better battery life then get a Samsung. For me the goods far outweigh the blue shift at angles I don't even view at anyways.

As far as price I don't know where you looked but I paid $850 for mine. Is that over priced? Absolutely. But what flagship phone isn't? No phone should be over a MAX of $500. To me a phone without stock Android and worse battery life is worth less money.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cwalker0906:
Exactly how my first device was and exactly the difference compared to my second device. On the new device the screen is very nice and absolutely love the phone now
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robn30:
I've already said on here that I don't like Touch Wiz and therefore won't go Samsung again unless they offer a device with pure Android. The Pixel 2 XL with 128 GB is $996 out the door, I'd say that's pretty close to $1,000. If Samsung does offer a pure Android device then I'll consider it. For my money I'm not willing to settle for a half assed display. I do use my phone off angle regularly enough that the blue tint would bother me greatly. All other aspects of the device seem to be decent, but the display is what I interact with the most. The 3 years of updates are great. If they rectify the display problems, I'll be all in, because I want the phone. For the record, I did purchase, but cancelled it 45 minutes later when the first reports of screen issues popped up. I then went and looked at a Verizon display model and Best Buy display model and compared it to the Samsung display and it wasn't even close. Never mind the muted colors, that's fine. It was clear that the panel itself was inferior to a large degree. I was shocked and glad I cancelled my order. We'll see how Google responds in the end. If they stick to their current approach, I'm out on principle alone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cwalker0906:
My display is great on my second device. The blue is definitely a qc issue
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robn30:
For sure, since so many have vastly different levels of blue. Is yours not blue? Or is it simply less blue? The blue tint is the deal breaker for me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cwalker0906:
Almost no blue, if any...it's the same as the one in the YouTube video a few post back
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robn30:
Well that one was actually great. It showed no blue shift that I could see, while the one next to it was complete garbage. I'll wait a month or two and see what shakes out and maybe give it a shot. If Google says nothing more on this I think it's a travesty.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cwalker0906:
Yes if you get a good display it's phenomenal
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] draiken78:
I just have to point out that the shiny new Pixel 2's are still on the September security patch :laugh: