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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jtwlbz:
https://youtu.be/0JjbMT_x6CM

Erica is telling the truth. She is the only reviewer i know an expert on display. Thats right its lack of red.

After watched her review i am seriously considering cancelling my order. This screen doesnt look like properly calibrated from the factory at all. Also those tint cant be fixed by software. Like i keep saying its not $1k screen at all.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xryptic:
She even shows a non uniform screen with red tint looking flat on, do not even need to tilt for the color to shift. This is a bigger panel issue and is making me very worried indeed.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] BoboBrazil:
Cancelled my preorder after seeing this. Will wait for Oneplus 5T.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] zathus:
Went back to VZW today. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Canceled my XL order and got a pixel 2.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cryppie:
Again, it's the adaptive brightness setting doing this. Turn it off and the display is great. It's on by default.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mlin:
Kept my preorder after seeing this. Gonna wait to spend some time with it on my own before deciding one way or another.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] flex360:
Lol cancelled your preorder over a YouTube video instead of checking the phone out yourself

I went to Verizon today to check it out and this whole thing is way over blown
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] theycallmerayj:
Agreed. I understand watching YouTube videos to give yourself an idea of how the phone is but don't see what the harm is in getting the phone to see for yourself if you noticed these issues. Obviously Google has already responded by saying they'd consider more color profiles. For me personally, I'll stick with stock Android and the best software experience over the best screen and touchwiz/grace ui.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] BoboBrazil:
Nah I saw it in a store too. It's bad. It's like a Samsung panel from 4 years ago.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] flex360:
Not even the reviewers said that. The only thing off is the color profile which Google can fix with a software update. See because you're used to Samsung's over saturated colors you thought the pixel 2 is bad.

I find sRgb alot better than Samsung's super saturated displays. Lol at who cancelled their pre orders over fake outrage
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] BoboBrazil:
I'm not talking about the color profile. Srgb color profile is ok. I'm talking about the color shifting when you tilt the panel and the graininess of it when you turn down brightness.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dmb219:
Yes. I got the phone yesterday and I love it. I can't believe all the hype and negativity. If you order the phone and don't like it you can return it. If you want one you should give it a chance. It's the best phone you can buy. Take some pictures of people. Look at them. If the pictures (and the display) aren't the most realistic you've ever seen, send it back. Don't base your decision on a video or what you read here. When more people get their phones all this drama will go away.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] georgiapi:
Went back to Verizon today and toggled the adaptive brightness and it still washes out at the slightest angle and the speakers are a joke.

Not for my $900.00+ dollars, no way. I'm going with the OnePlus line from here.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] tx3kgtman:
Went into Verizon yesterday after reading this thread and some of yall are blowing this way out of proportion. Im no screen expert but I'am picky when it comes to screens and the phone looked fine. I compared it side by side to my pixel 1 XL and I thought the pixel 2 xl looked better. I could see the blue tint when tilting the phone but it wasn't at a minor tilt, it was a good 40ish degrees before I noticed it and even then it wasn't horrible. I tilted my pixel 1 xl and noticed a much fainter blue tint also but its something I would have never noticed until I went looking for it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Parvinder25:
For last couple of days, every other site or YouTube video is bashing pixel 2 xl for its screen. To an extent where some call it utter garbage. Is it so bad? I'm waiting for my xl 2 and it'll here next week but I'm think shall I hold on or call l cancel?

Although I checked the pixel 2 xl last week in Verizon store and didn't look for those screen issues so closely. To me it looked fine.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] FMXP:
I'm very picky about screens and after seeing the video Erica Griffin made I was pretty sure I would not be able to stand the screen.

My Galaxy Nexus back in 2012 had a very early Samsung OLED panel, the very first 720p OLED screen sold in a phone that reached consumers. It also had horrible color shifting and uniformity and a very grainy screen. I was willing to put up with that screen in 2012 back in the days when OLED was new and exciting technology. It's 2017 now and I've owned a Note 2, a Note 4, and an S6 since then and all of them have non-color shifting non-grainy OLED screens. Samsung has perfected the phone OLED screen and quite frankly LG is 5 years behind. I do not wish to return to 2012 after having experienced vastly superior quality OLED panels.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] meboy:
Pixel fanboys may be even worse than iPhone fanboys.

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It's not even covering sRGB.

Which is pathetic. Especially for a 1k phone.

No. They cannot simply fix the colour profile with software. It depends on the hardware.

Every screen would be perfect if that were true.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
Well I've had this phone for a little over a day now the screen looks fine the colors are definitely not as saturated as Samsung's I'm hoping they put out a fix for that I'm pretty sure they can. On the other note the blue hue when you turn the phone sideways or up and down is not that bad I can deal with that completely.

The screen looks great to me it's definitely not as color rich as many other OLED screens but I think they're going to put a fix out for it soon they better or else they're going to have a lot of unhappy customers. For the price of the phone we should not have to be dealing with this I'm going to give it a try for my two week. And if I can't adjust to it and like it it's going back.$900 is way too much to spend on a phone that has a subpar screen.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] greencat2:
I will take the 15 minutes fast charge over wireless charging anytime. I know it's gotten better but my experience wasn't great. Slow charging and over heating were issues.

I haven't used a wired ear bud / headphones in 5 years. Once you make the change you won't go back.

The phone is not perfect but none are. I have been very happy with the original Pixel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] proof2006:
But the audio quality /s

Because all audiophiles are using their phone for audio playback.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xstokerx:
I'm so glad I'm getting the pixel 2 and not the xl there's alot of hate going around about that screen
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] a103:
I've watched the video too. Definitely not a worthy screen for $900+ phone. I went to the store twice to check it out and I can't unsee the color shift when the phone is tilted. (I can live with the unsaturated color). I was pretty excited for this phone and upgrade from my GS4 after 4.5 years, but eventually cancelled my pre-order. I know that the color shift is not obvious until you look from an angle but it's a common use case (for me) when two or more people watch video/pictures together and moreover I read with my phone laying flat on table sometimes. So I just can't justify myself spending that much money when you have better screens around. (The main reason for my upgrade was the QHD 6 inch screen). Even I see the blue shift on my phone but it's barely noticeable

Anyways thank you everyone for weighing in with your experience so far with the phone, it's a great phone (No doubt about it), but it's just not for me this year.

I'll start looking for better alternative which is really hard (No more Samsung for me).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cedargreen:
IMO forums of any kind are over sensitive about issues. I have no doubt the colors on XL'2 are muted as the XL'1 was muted colors IMO. Sounds like XL'2 are more muted than the XL'1 though.

I was fine with the XL'1 screen and anything close will work until the next phone comes along. However, backlight bleed, burn in or other issues that affect the usability of the phone are a real problem.

Since I traded in my two XL'1s for the XL'2 im screwed if its use is affected by screen issues. I would have to return these and then repurchase XL'1s at full price (or possible swappa, but still) and would be out a difference of trade in value $410.00 and $800.00ish for XL'1s...

Google kinda got me by the short and curleys...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] kickenwing13:
Just played with one at Verizon, kind of has me excited again, not going to cancel it as of now. Loved it actually but maybe I just don't care as much about panel. And after having 6 6ps. Five replacements. I believe Google would take care of me

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Just played with one at Verizon, kind of has me excited again, not going to cancel it as of now. Loved it actually but maybe I just don't care as much about panel. And after having 6 6ps. Five replacements. I believe Google would take care of me
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] martinezma99:
Screen will come down to preference. Pixel XL 2 is an awesome phone. Screen was a bit of a let down mostly because I was coming from a Note 8. Had I come from original Pixel, most likely a non-issue.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] MacTheRipperr:
I have been using Samsung since the Samsung galaxy vibrant on T-Mobile and I still have my S 8 plus. I can tell the difference in the displays, but honestly I kinda prefer the pixel display. I know it's different and not what I'm used to, but I think it's a thousand well spent. I have never been on vanilla android before. This device including the display are a pleasant and much needed change for me. I may not be as picky as most of you. But I highly recommend that you keep your pre-orders and experience the phone for yourself, in your natural environment. Not on a YouTube video and not in a Verizon or best buy store. Form your own opinions and don't drink the kool-aid. That's just my two cents.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] hbkekko:
Thank you God for all these users who delete their Pre-order! More phones for all of us who really want to try the phone with our own hands and not by watching videos on YT. As soon as I'll get the phone, I'll spend my entire 14 days to try in every single way and situation the entire phone and display, hope with a nice fix. Then decide to return it or keeping it! That's how to do...not writing reviews after some YT videos (imho)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dmarden:
Hanging with some friends, just about every person has made some sort of "Wow, the screen looks so nice" type comment. No one has asked me to adjust the angle or say anything about any blue tint.

Edit: I think if high saturation is your thing, then maybe it doesn't fit your preference right now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Nitemare3219:
Color preference is one thing. I actually like the accurate colors. What I don't like is the poor panel uniformity causing a grainy/dirty screen look, and the insane blue tint any time you tilt the phone at all, or get the screen too close to your face. VR is going to look like total ****.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Don_Perrignon:
Just came back from the Verizon store.

1. Man up and stop cancelling orders until you get yours.

2. Blueish tint on a WHITE screen from angle? Yes, dramatic no.

3. Washed out colors? No - accurate.

4. Banding? No.

5. Grainy? No. At low brightness? No.

6. Could there be bad units out there? Yes, obviously, that's dumb to ask. But, there are obviously good units with no issues like the one I played with. Wait until you get yours and if it's not satisfactory, have Google replace it.

You guys are acting like Texans in the slightest weather other than sunny.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] fr4nk1yn:
Call me odd but I like the color of the screen. I hate the glowin... WTF? Why is my pc's screen scrolling up automatically every time the video ad at the bootm refreshes to a different one?! Now I had to block ads on XDA again!

I hate the glowing reds on other screens when set to vibrant. If that's what people like they're just wrong!

The colors are crisp, the detail in games is better than on my Moto Z Force and the v20, the blues are just sooo blue!

Yes, color shift is there and if your screen is grainy when dimmed, which most of mine have been, don't dim them. When you dim you're losing detail anyway.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] iceman4357:
Went into a best buy to pick up a PS4 game and played with the 2xl for a bit. I think the screen will be perfectly fine. With adaptive brightness turned off at 5% the screen looked fine to me. I think everyone needs to see it in person before canceling their order. The speakers sounded good to me, better than my original xl. The only negative I would say is that the new 2 xl doesn't feel as premium as the original. I am sure after 1 day with the 2xl, I will get used to it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Deathrowy2k:
For anyone with a black and white 128gb preorder, the screen is garbage please cancel your preorder.....so I can get mine before the end of November.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] eep2378:
Erica certainly has a reputation as a credible reviewer and obviously has calibration tools at her disposal. That being said, the blue tint at angle is certainly an issue. For example, laying in bed with the phone on your bedside table I'm sure you would see it all the time. The color space issue can/will be negated by developer community with a kernel (Franco or flar2) or even by google themselves considering all the outcry.

At this point, I'm waiting until I get my device and spend some time with it. Apparently some have grain and some don't. If my unit does it's RMA time. For me, that's the one issue I would exchange for. I use Amoled photo mode on my S8 and I've compared the two side-by-side at Verizon store. Besides the Pixel running cooler in terms of color temp, I was not disappointed with the Pixel's display.

This is nothing new. A manufacturer cannot exactly replicate each panel. When i got my Nexus 5, I RMA'd twice because of yellow tint that plagued many of them.

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Haha. Interestingly, when I called Google support about my Penguin thats due to ship 11/20, I asked about people cancelling. Rep told me that cancelled orders would NOT necessarily move other people up. Not sure if he knows what up honestly. lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] theycallmerayj:
Just went back to Verizon and looked for issues and honestly this is severely overblown. The blue hue is there but it's a non issue for me. If you're argument is that you don't want to spend the money on a lesser screen that's understandable, but to say this phone is a complete fail due to it is ridiculous.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] manners400:
Lol, I'm still waiting on my Pixel XL 2, I've already checked the phone out and thus far it's great. It's funny how so many brands cater to some of these idiotic reviewers and bloggers due to so many blind people following their every word instead of taking a moment to sample things themselves. I remember when the S8 & S8+ was released and there was the huge Red tint issue you could see when screen was on whites, especially from different angles. People tried to change the color profile themselves by subtracting red to lowest setting but it was still there and everyone was like No it can't be fixed with software lol, it's the end of Samsung again lol.... There are people who had no issue until a reviewer/blogger said something then everyone is like yes I see it, it's a manufacturing flaw, stay away lol.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bkdodger:
My thoughts try the phone if you are on the fence or wait a bit for update .. I do think it needs either a Google update or root developer profile colors to give us choices... Vivid mode right now is useless doesn't change much... I see minimal color shift blue non issue doesn't bother me one bit... I'm not seeing grainy.. good luck and remember it's plenty subjective... Good luck

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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
I got my pixel 2 XL yesterday. The screen looks great I have no banding no grainy looks it looks outstanding. I definitely thought about canceling my pre-order and I'm glad I didn't everything you said here in this post is accurate I actually think the colors pop and they're actually very accurate. I do have the Vivid checked on! For the 10% extra color. The only issue and it's very small is when you turn the screen and it's a small blue hue which is very minor which I'm looking straight at my phone all the time anyway. There are so many pros and so little cons on this phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] obsanity:
So in my opinion the blue shift is due to Google lowering the blue pixels lower in order to achieve accurate colors. Blue pixels are fabricated largest because of their quick degradation. It is also the reason why OLED screens always seem to have extra blue tint to them.

I think the sRGB button could probably fix majority of this blue tint issue.

Also, could someone take a close-up picture of the screen similar to this one.

https://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/17/lg-v30/micro/gsmarena_001.jpg
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] johnh123:
I've had it now for about three hours. I've been on it the whole time. I haven't noticed a single issue with the screen. No tint, no nothing. So far I'm very happy with it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mlin:
Blue shift I can deal with, especially if the screen is that much easier to see with sunglasses in bright light thanks to the polarized lens.

Muted colors actually don't look muted at all to me as I've used my Pixel XL with sRGB on for the last year.

Grainy screen, this would be an issue to me but it sounds like this isn't a global issue and is more likely the result of a few bad panels. If I get a grainy screen I'll likely RMA. From the 3 XLs I've seen in person, none have had this issue fo fingers crossed mine won't either.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] th3discodancer:
Do let me know what you decide to go with.

I HAVE to change my phone this month (coming from the 6P) and the screen is throwing me in a bit of quandary.

Since I'm not from the US, the phone not only costs ~1120$, it's not even sold via Google directly and RMA isn't going to be a no-questions-asked procedure; The vendors simply refuse to cooperate unless there's some flagrantly wrong with the phone.

Can not afford to rely on the lottery display situation at these stakes.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] skip24ftlb:
I think all this frenzy is just typical of the press in general these days. Happens all the time with the British press. Build something up and then knock it down. The Nokia 8 was subjected to the same kind of thing. Grain in the whiteness. Big bezels blah blah blah.

My Nokia 8 went back as it was faulty, but if the pixel xl2 isn't what it should be, then I won't hesitate to reorder a Nokia 8.

People should read between the lines, make up their own minds and remember how the media operate, and how much fake news there is about these days..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] gettingerr:
Received my Pixel 2 XL this morning. While I am able to see what the reviews and articles are saying about the display, I believe it's a nice display nonetheless. The blue shift is not bothersome to me personally, and the phone looks great with sunglasses on (the first I've ever thought this). I used to use sRGB, so cannot hate on the screen. If I do want more color, I'll do so through a custom kernel if Google hasn't made that a feature yet. My display is a consistent temperature from top to bottom.

My display does, however, have a dead pixel. I am contacting Google to arrange an RMA. Defects happen unfortunately, however, what the reviews say about the screen, I don't consider defects. It looks good. Go see for yourself before you cancel your order.

Edit: Google is sending a replacement device. Once I receive it, I send back my old one. Relatively painless. Good work by Google support in this case. (Except it was funny when they asked me to send a photo of the dead pixel, and every speck of dust also looks like a dead pixel)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mlin:
Yeah, I guess that's my point. After you watched a video you were "pretty sure" you "would not be able to stand the screen" without seeing for yourself. And maybe you shouldn't have to "stand it." Just think that until you use it yourself, you never quite know. With the exception of landing a grainy, defective screen, I really think the screen is quite nice. I'm not suggesting there isn't an issue, only suggesting it may be worth experiencing it for yourself.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] raidflex:
All these people complaining I guess don't realize that when you buy a 3k TV its not calibrated out of the box. You need to either do it yourself or pay someone. But you expect a phone to be perfect. These oversaturated devices are distorting people's views of "accurate" colors. The blue tint is probably for the polarization and helps with viewing with sunglasses on. I know I don't look at my phone at 40° all the time. Stop relying on reviews completely before seeing the device in person.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] eep2378:
Yup, maybe Google should just put out a statement (something like this, perhaps):

"Listen, dumbasses! We're Google, and we know $hit. Stop acting like you know $hit, and enjoy your new device".

Just saying.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] gettingerr:
Well stated. The blue shift only truly presents itself when I angle the phone far past where I'd ever hold it. Even with the shift, I can very clearly read and use the device. And yes, it's very nice with sunglasses on. Held it up next to my old pixel and was impressed.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Fella55:
Just got home from the VZW store. I played with the XL for a while comparing it side to side with the the smaller Pixel 2. I didn't find the colours on the screen to be washed out compared to my iPhone 7 plus or the pixel 2.

There is indeed the blue tint effect when the screen is tilted. It comes into play at very shallow angles becoming more pronounced as the phone is tilted further. The pixel 2 also shows a blue tint but it starts at a much steeper angle. The effect seems much more pronounced on white backgrounds

I'd say that if you're someone who regularly looks at your screen at an off angle it would be distracting.

As an aside, I did the same test with a Note 8. What I noticed was a pink tint when the phone was tilted. While not effecting the display at the shallowest angles, or still came into play at relatively shallow angles.