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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] meboy:
The iPhone x has basically no shift.

The 2 xl is very unique.

Stop trying to say it's all OLED.

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This is such a stupid argument.

1 Stock Android is bland and missing many useful features. It is getting better almost entirely because of copying other OEM and app developers ideas.

There is no need to desire the latest because there is rarely anything new or improved.

2 Samsung, Sony, etc. Have been putting out security patches monthly for almost all phones up to 2-3 years old. Your not getting much better than that.

3 If you have been paying attention then you would notice how often software updates Google pushes break phones. Getting these cutting edge Beta pushes that often cause problems with almost never any new features or benefit of any kind. Why would that be so important to anyone..

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So offended and ignorant about many things..

The software argument is stupid. (See my previous post)

The battery life argument is stupid. (Check gsmarena)

Basing your opinion on the S2 is stupid..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wko668:
Mine has terrible screen uniformity. Blue/green at the bottom and left, pink on the right. RMAing... :(
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
Good luck. That looks better than mine and Google refuses to RMA mine. Apparently no matter how blue, green, pink; they're all working as intended and they must prefer to have a rainbow assortment of screens. OR...Maybe Google really can't see the tint issues since they're looking through their rose colored glasses :rolleyes:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wko668:
Well, maybe I got lucky. Google support asked for a picture and told me to take it head on, which I did, because the screen uniformity is so bad on mine. They immediately agreed on replacing it.

This one should not even have passed QC. The uniformity is so bad that I immediately saw it on the boot screen on first boot. No special testing needed. The picture was taken during boot screen as well.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
Good to hear that they're taking care of you. Hopefully the 2nd one will be much better. I'm hoping my 2nd one is better as well.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jinsoku3g:
My blue shift went away with use. Almost none at all anymore.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] drmanhattan:
Love my phone and this display is gorgeous but my pixel 2 XL has burn in from the nav bar I had to look for it to notice but it's there. Take that for what it's worth. Is it a deal breaker ? No Google is sending me a brand new device free if charge, and had I not gone looking for it I would still be saying how perfect my screen is, with that said this is a quality control problem less that 3 weeks with the phone and burn in is crazy
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
Google and Samsung don't offer the same software experience. Samsung makes many changes. That's just fact. Saying I don't like what Samsung does isn't stupid. It's matter of opinion. I think TouchWiz (or whatever Samsung calls it now) sucks. It's ugly, it causes issues and it slows the phone down. I've also never had any bugs from Android updates like I have had or have seen from Samsung. A little performance decrease and decrease in battery life on a few occasions but rarely and never any bugs. At least not that I've noticed.

The battery life argument isn't stupid. I know many people who have the newest or recent generation Samsung phones and they complain about the battery life all the time. My sister has a Note 8 and my cousin has a Galaxy S8+. My sister loves her Note overall (see likes Samsung software) by she complains about battery life a lot. And in the past she has complained about slowness of her Samsung phones after 6 months(I'm not sure what why she still buys them with how much she complains about slowness after a short time) My cousin takes a battery pack with him if he's going to be out all day because his Galaxy S8+ can't last a whole day. In comparison my Pixel 2 XL which has basically the same size battery and very similar resolution as the S8+ lasts far longer. For my normal work day usage I've gone 2 days without a charge on my Pixel 2 XL. That's like 36 hours off the charger and just over 7 hours screen on time. Neither my sister or cousin get anything close to that. I learned a long time ago to ignore battery life tests from places like GSM arena since they don't even come close to showing real world use cases.

I didn't base my opinion on the Galaxy S2. I said that was the last Samsung phone I owned. It was a piece of garage. I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen on the Galaxy S2 and how much improvement I've seen since then. Just because I haven't OWNED one since the Galaxy S2 doesn't mean I have no experience with Samsung phones since then. I absolutely have and while I certainly have seen software improvements since owning my piece of crap Galaxy S2 (literally the worst purchase I've ever made of any kind) the improvements haven't come far enough to get my business.

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So just curious, what will you get? You don't like Samsung and LG and HTC aren't much better in terms of software than Samsung. Other than that you have the cheap Chinese brands with low quality and terrible customer service like OnePlus and Huawei.

You say you aren't willing to settle for a half assed display but I'm not willing to settle for half assed software or half assed pretty much everything else. Could the Pixel 2 XL have a better screen? Sure. However it certainly isn't bad. You have to realize that no phone is perfect. Even for $1000 you will have to make compromises somewhere. You want the best screen then the Pixel 2 XL isn't the best for you. Although the in my opinion the screen is pretty damn good. I chose to accept a good but not perfect display for close to perfect on everything else.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] zetsumeikuro:
I bet by the time the Pixel 3 XL comes out this thread will still be alive :eek:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
It feels like the same for me but that's not the case. You are probably just getting used to it. The blue shift is caused by something that doesn't just "go away".
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] stumpy352:
I'm not so sure. When I first got mine, it definitely looked blue. Now it just looks like a cooler version of white. When I view mine off axis, it looks almost identical to the whites on my wife's htc u11. Cooler, yes. But not so much blue.

I also remember when I first got my galaxy Nexus & it had a distinct yellow tint from all angles. I contacted support & they told me it was the glue between the layers of the display & that it just needed time to cure fully. Sure enough, after a couple of weeks all trace of yellow tint were gone. Not just me getting used to it, because I was comparing to an lcd display I had at the time.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robn30:
Why do I have to get anything? My MXPE is still working great and provides me the pure Android experience with an unlocked bootloader. It was $489 out the door and it isn't prefect either but for $489 it's hard to beat it. 4K IPS display with a little light bleed and it looks better than the Pixel 2 XL. Am I thrilled about the battery life after 2 years of use, not fully, but it's 2 years old and still gets me through a full day using it about 2 hours SOT. I'll keep rolling until Google addresses the issue and creates a device that lives up to the $1,000 price tag. Or they can lower it by $250 and I might consider it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] AndrasLOHF:
If you have been paying attention to anything in regards to software in the history of software....all software causes issues.....all of it. I have yet to see a single piece of software anywhere in all of existence that didn't have a bug somewhere. It's inherent to the process. Fix one thing....3 others break. If you believe otherwise good luck finding that perfect piece of software because it doesn't exist. At best all you can find is "perfect for you" software where the bugs don't matter to you.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] saunupe1911:
Welp I setup an RMA with my phone because of the burn in. Hopefully my next one doesn't have extreme blueshift. My currently has it at the slightest angle but It's not a deep blue. I'm not sure what Google is going to do about the burn in though. They need to release the fix for that soon. I even run a live wallpaper to slow the process down. Fingers crossed because this is just awesome.

Also has anyone recorded a 4k or 1080p video? My recording where some of the graininess recordings I've ever seen. Is this software of camera related?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jinsoku3g:
I actually have two P2XL's, and a Mi Mix. One Pixel that I've used less still has it and of course the Mix has none. The daily Pixel, definitely has way less blue shift now compared to the other, and they both matched the day I got them. I think its definitely faded out a bit.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] TheDonXR:
How did you get them to replace your first device? They keep telling me it's "working as intended"
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] joyshvabra:
can someone post some close-ups or even better a video for the rest of us to see. It's either those who complain got the bad units and the rest didn't or those who don't complain don't have a good eye to spot these things.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Az Biker:
I put together a comparison thread HERE.

Bad thing is, there seems to be no rhyme or reason to which units are good, bad or in between. So you neve4r know what you're going to get.

Mine has the blue tint, but none of the other issues (speakers, burn in, etc.) so would probably be considered an in between unit.

If you don't mind the hassle of a possible RMA or flat out return to move to another device, I'd just get one, see how YOU like it, and make a decision from there.

I know it sucks to have to worry about this, but if the 2 XL is a device you want, you get 14 days to return it, or use the manufacturer warranty for burn in, bad speakers, etc.

Hope this helps.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] NWTSCL:
Look at this from their point of view. How do they know you are reporting a legitimate problem, or that you just aren't some nut job who is wanting to play the system?

Some color shift is normal. That is just how the technology works. How do they know you are reporting a truly defective phone, or that you just aren't complaining because you think you found a defect, or that you simply aren't playing the system just because you can?

Put yourself into their shoes. There is a lot of media hype, so people are going to learn about something that they wouldn't otherwise know. A person whom you do not know calls to report what he thinks is a problem. If you were them, what would you need to convince yourself that a problem exists?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] TheDonXR:
Exactly why I made the video, the first person who viewed it was a Google employee who I was chatting with. I definitely wouldn't play the system, but I would expect that a $1000 phone wouldn't have such a variation in screen quality. I know there are others who would though, I hate that I may need to return it because I got the penguin version and who knows when it will be back in stock...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
Look at it from this point. What system is there to play if you receive a perfectly good device??? Why would anyone return a perfectly good device to try and get a what? another perfectly good device? LOL

If it were me I'd actually listen to the customers in the thousands or more screaming about the screen problems. But hey that's just me, I'd rather have a business to keep selling products. Yes google won't die from this bad pr or publicity and all the negative reviews but it will make a lot of people remember that Google doesn't fully stand by their products, when the next pixel launches. Hell case example here; I contacted Google and was denied RMA for blue screen straight on and gets worse at any angle. BUT Verizon will let me RMA (even if I just say it smells like dog ****) the device up to 4 times, before sending me a comparably priced device. I'm a happy Verizon customer but if I went through google store and couldn't RMA, I'd just get a refund and never give them my money again. I understand why people cancelled their orders, I also understand why people are keeping theirs as well. Unfortunately buying this $1,000 top-tier device is a quality control crapshoot! And it shouldn't have to be that way. What is this Jeopardy? Can I have beta testing for $1,000 alex?

Since there's 50 shades of BLUE I'm wondering which shade is working as intended? And since we've now seen perfectly good screens and horribly blue like someone colored with a marker screens which one is the defective screen? Put yourself into their shoes...You just sold a brand new device with screens with shades that range from blue to pink to white to green and you tell your customers it's working as intended and they realize you're full of ****??? What do you do? Ignore them all? or listen, find the problem and fix it? Seems pretty straightforward. Publicly acknowledge quality control issues and move forward with fixing it. Accidents happen daily good or bad, but to be so arrogant you're ignorant of the facts is inexcusable especially for a billion dollar giant like google.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] NWTSCL:
Mine was far worse than yours. It would turn medium blue when tilted just 10 degrees off axis.

I don't do exchanges anymore. I do returns and full refunds, then purchase again if I want another. I purchased a computer from a certain manufacturer many years ago. It had an obvious functional defect at power-on. They could not fix it after two attempts, so they agreed to an exchange. Except they wouldn't extend the return period, and the period would expire long before the replacement arrived. Why would I agree to such a thing when I can return it, get my money back, then purchase again and have another full refund period? Bizarre. So I don't do exchanges.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] draiken78:
Interesting. I'm waiting for my replacement to arrive and while mine is pretty blue, I took a picture of it and compared it to before and mine is noticeably less blue than it was.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xKTx:
I'm already seeing the outline of the notification and navbars. I've only had my device 4 days and it's there.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
My misunderstanding. I was under the impression that you would be getting something new soon either way. If you're happy with your current device then keep it. If not get something you like. As for me, I have a Pixel 2 XL and I am VERY happy with it so I will be keeping it. Also, 64GB was more than enough for me so I did save that. I'm also getting the free Google Home Mini which I'm going to sell as well as getting $125 back trade in for my Nexus 5X. So my true cost is really only like $675.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] gm007:
Don't you guys think that Google made this screen story on purpose?

Imagine this phone with perfect screen,than no other manufacturers will sell android phones this year other than Google itself ;)

End of the story there will be no perfect phone ;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
I really hate to say it but I'm pretty sure that's in your head. The blue shift is caused by having a circular polarizer. There is nothing in a polarizer that can "fade".
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] silentscreambt:
I'm thinkin about to buy this smartphone and I don't understand 2 things.

1) Will the burn in effect vanish after a restart or a power off?

2) Will burn in fix apps work?

Thank you :) And sorry for stupid questions
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] arjunprabhu:
1. no

2. no

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Same here -- after 5 days of use, the burn-in became progressively worse by the day..

4-5 hrs of SOT every day..

i returned it. Started to see the faint line /band in the nav area when watching videos..etc........

loved the phone other wise.

After the 14-day window -- you are at the mercy of the google reps to approve an RMA --- and in a few weeks/months form now, you will most likely get a refurb device as a replacement for RMA
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] arjunprabhu:
See attached picture -- this was after 1 week of use -- about 4-5 hrs of screen-on-time daily with around 50% brightness.

normal use.

image shot using nexus 5x
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robn30:
It's all good, I stated a while back in this forum thread that I would just keep what I have. I'm with you about Samsung and TouchWiz, I hate it. It does slow the phone down a bit and eats extra battery. It may be my opinion but the Galaxy is a great looking device with an amazing display. I want that display quality for the Pixel 2 XL. I want the phone and may eventually reorder, but I want to wait and see what Google says. They can't keep saying it's working as intended because there are so many different shades with some phones exhibiting none at all. There is just too much variance to say it's working as intended. They should figure out what is going on, and once they do, give people the option to return their devices for ones that don't exhibit blue shift. Choosing to install a polarizer was a terrible idea, especially if that's what's causing the blue shift. I don't think there is a single person that said "I'm buying that expensive phone because it's got a polarizer". I would rather have wireless charging or a headphone jack, although I'm not complaining about those being missing, but to include a polarizer? The software experience and updates are a major plus for this device. The battery and camera are excellent and for those reason I still want it, but I need Google to cease with the bull**** and own up to this one and fix it, or lower the price to $750 or less for the 128 GB version. I'd still be irritated about a subpar display, but might be able to live with it as long as it wasn't as blue as some I've seen on here and the Google Pixel forum. I hope they do right by us, their currently loyal customers.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
I do think Samsung phones look nice but I'm not a big fan of the fragile and slippery glass on the back. Samsung screens are good but in my side by side test between my Pixel 2 XL and the new generation of Samsung phones viewing straight on (which is how I use my phone) and the Samsung phone with the "Basic" color mode (which is what I would use if I had a Samsung phone since I HATE the oversaturated unrealistic colors) I honestly didn't see much difference. As for the polarizer I certainly do like the fact that I can actually view the screen with my polorized sunglasses. I HATED that about my Nexus 5X. With the sunglasses the screen effectively turned off in landscape orientation. The Pixel 2 XL doesn't do that. I'm not sure if that's a result of the polarizer or just how OLED works but I'm really happy about it.

Also, I've seen some picture showing that some Pixel 2 XLs have little to no blue shift at all. If it bothered me that much I would go through the hassle to exchange to get a better one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] fixxxer0:
So I got my first RMA replacement in the mail today for my speaker sounding distorted at high volume and the screen blue shift which was as everyone knows was functioning as intended.

I'm comparing them side by side, and while the new device still has a blue shift, it's much more gradual and uniform as opposed to the original device which kind of comes over like a tidal wave as you move away from dead center.

Of course I noticed something new on the replacement, now I have a zone that is slightly redder in the top right quadrant of the screen, covering about 1.5"circle. Noticeable mainly on white or light backgrounds, but now that I spotted it I can't stop looking at it.

Anyone else have something like this ??? I couldn't read all 132 pages and search was inconclusive.

My two-week return is this Friday I'm thinking of sending them both back and giving the phone another shot in a month.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wko668:
Yeah, yours sounds exactly like mine. See my pic linked in the previous post https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=74420913&postcount=1285

Like you, I also cannot stop looking at the pink spot after seeing it. This phone is going back.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] fixxxer0:
Damn it, yes that's exactly it. I suppose pink is a better description than "reddish" haha, thanks. uniformity is definitely worse on my replacement, but blue shift less, if that makes sense.

I'm so mad, I really love the phone otherwise. I just rooted the other on 8.1 and got tether and ad block on, missed it so much coming from my vzw locked down s6.

I think I'm just going to return it. For $1000 I want a better screen.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] saunupe1911:
New System update from Google is live!!! Downloading now!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Jules.frank.7:
Ma dudes, check this bull**** out.

I finally, after several weeks, got my pixel 2 XL in the mail today. I work for at&t and could get my hands on any phone (except a pixel 2 XL). I've been buying Google phones since the Nexus 4. My Nexus 6P has been experiencing the infamous battery issue so it was time to upgrade. Whatever, point is; I don't believe everything I read online, but I turned the new phone on and immediately could assure that all the claims I've been reading about weren't just technology radicals. It was clear, the screen sucked. Blue tint from every angle except 90° straight on. The colors were dull beyond my first smartphone which I paid $80 for in 2012. At this point, I decided that I'd trust Google (or some Dev) would fix this issue soon. However, within the first hour after activating it, I began to see screen issues that were far beyond what most ppl were simply complaining about online. This was an outright lemon. Black lines and dark spots started to appear throughout the screen and continually progressed to the point that I RMA-ed it immediately. Here are some photos I had to send to Google's warrantee department for inspection.
Photos in links
How it started:
[IMG]https://photos.app.goo.gl/mLjCJbMIvDrxUQHl2[/IMG]

How it progressed:
[IMG]https://photos.app.goo.gl/QvZC5PLVQqEylQdA3[/IMG]

How it ended
[IMG]https://photos.app.goo.gl/UOTIp6gYsKcHSgSR2[/IMG]

All this happened within the first hour! So what's that law firm that going class action against them called, again?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
The color pop is pretty noticeable when set to "Saturated". Was shocking to my eyes actually. Gonna let myself adjust. I'm sure someone's going to post some new display readings.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blcklab:
How's that work if we're on beta? Is it like iOS where beta just has a smaller download and brings it up to current build?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
So after the new update; colors set to saturated look quite vibrant, also going to leave it that way for a few days to a week and see how I like it. Much better than before. But they should still get rid of that not quite translucent app drawer overlay that washes out the bottom 1/3 of the home screen at all times. :fingers-crossed: for a less blue screen on my replacement that's on it's way, because these devices are amazing!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] saunupe1911:
The vibrant setting helps with the blue tint for sure since the color balance is on the red side. Hopefully my replacement doesn't record videos with graininess and hopefully this update prevents burn in with it