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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Nephilim:
Actually, you can't really make that judgement in a factual manner. You don't know how many people out there purchased the device but have no issues and decided there was no reason to say anything. This means there could be far more without issues and it only appears to be common or widespread due to the only people chiming in being those with issues. No way to tell for sure aside from taking a consensus of every single device sold, which won't happen.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] meboy:
Lies or your eyes are broken.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
You can't really make THAT judgement in a factual manner. You don't know how many people out there purchased the device and have issues and don't go online they "deal or live with it" and decided there was no reason to go online to say anything. This means there could be far more WITH issues and it only appears not to be common or widespread due to the only people chiming in being those who tell us to leave these forums and sell the phone for a samsung or apple. No way to tell for sure; is the only thing you wrote with any truth. Grats. I fixed your post for ya! You're right it won't happen, So maybe you should accept others observations, dissenting opinions and move along now?! 1 thing is clear as ice here...there's an issue with the displays on some of these devices and to call someone out who received a crap one is Bull****. It'd be like us calling you guys out for receiving a perfectly good one when in the bad screen thread there's more than not with the issue. Hence the reason for the thread. Again, if you can't handle the truth move along from this thread.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] gm007:
I have swapped my pixel 2 with pixel 2 XL.

The blue shift is here and i have the black smearing in low brightness.

I can't have a replacement for my phone cause the phone is imported so I'm stuck.

Anyway this 2 problems im having doesn't bother me much,the display is nice if you look straight.

I love this phone cause it has a lot of good things,so the display won't bother me much.

But i still feel that the smaller pixel 2 has better build quality.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] sharkoparko:
If they have 5 in stock
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Nephilim:
You clearly didn't read the last part of my comment. This isn't a debate. There is absolutely no way of telling whether more are faulty or more are working properly so your half page diatribe is completely irrelevant and was unnecessary to make aside from you trying to stir the pot.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
YOU and a lot of the members here who received good devices are stirring the pot by telling everyone their issues are overblown without actually seeing our device in person. Face the facts, there's clearly an issue with quite a decent amount of these devices. I read your post! You're right. This isn't a DEBATE!! There's OBVIOUSLY bad devices being shipped from google/lg and unfortunately they're looking the other way. We clearly received a defective unit(s) and are here to see how widespread the issue is. Do you work for google or something? Why are you butthurt about receiving a PERFECTLY GOOD device and have the need to **** on others who clearly received bad devices? You got a good one, so move along now! BTW pictures don't show just how BLUE these defective ones are.

Correct we don't and will never know how many are bad or the % of bad devices especially when google sweeps this under the rug, says "it's working as intended" and now they're looking the other way.

Oh boy a 2 year warranty! that they have loophole language in to deny any screen claim for any reason they want.

GOOGLE'S WARRANTY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEB7WbTTlu4
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] LimitsX:
That member and others like him, are paid by google/LG or work for them or something similar. Clearly, Pixel 2 are defective, and that is an issue.

Google screwed up big time, AGAIN.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Spud387:
I just receive mine yesterday and was thoroughly disappointed in the display. I was fully prepared to be ok with blue tint at off angles, especially if it was close to my buddy's iPhone X, but man is it ever bad on this phone. 5 degree tilt and a portion of my screen goes blue, 10 degree whole screen gets a blue tint. It is unacceptable if I cannot even wiggle my phone and not have the shift happen. I so desperately wanted this phone but it goes back. :(
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Nephilim:
This is the most idiotic thing I've ever read. Clearly I never said some of the devices weren't defective. The only thing I was pointing out was that there is no way of verifying whether there is more devices with issues or more devices that are issue free. Please go sit in the corner and think about how stupid your remark was.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] buschris:
well, the samsung on display was exactly like the LG and the pixel 2XL. it's definitely polarization
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] palexr:
Either my eyes are defective, the screen is not so defective as many threads lead me to worry, or I'm lucky. My screen is fine. There is a blue tint when at an angle, but to be honest I would never look at my screen at the angle where it starts to become an issue.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
OR, you also got a good non defective unit and have no issues. Some have horrible blue tint and get worse at any angle and some are fine as you and others described. IDEA we need a thread to vote for how blue the screen is at what angle, no comments to drown out facts, only numbers of good vs defective units to maybe get an idea of how many or what % (of users here alone) are having this issue, just a thought. Oh btw congrats on your good device. Happy turkey day.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] :
On the 4th one (2 Verizon and 2 Google) here and finally I have one that doesn't bother my eyes in low light. I do have a slight blue tint at angles but nothing like others I have seen. Best of all the smearing and touch screen issues are not on this one like the last. It's been a rough ride but I finally have a keeper. I had a Note 8 but the lack of security updates blew it for me. Two days ago I was still on the August security update with no update in sight. I'd rather pay money to Google to support the software but yes compared to the Note and even the Pixel 2 this screen falls short.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] gm007:
Out of 4 phones 1 is good not a nice move from google :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] :
No not really but at least the hardware is covered for two years and it's secure. I'm just happy I got a decent one now. I blame the screen hardware on LG and the QC on Google. But honestly I'm not worried if something goes wrong, Google will take care if it one way or another. Either way I made the choice to buy it now I'm going to enjoy it and eat some turkey later. Have a great day everyone and don't eat each other.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] fkloznica:
Pixel XL 2 display is really bad .. lg p-oled is definitely on the same level as amoled from Samsung galaxy S4.

[youtube]5YK63cXyJ2Q[/youtube]

Pixel 2 amoled Vs poled pixel xl 2 ( ss from that video above )
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] galaxys:
Just wait for XDA hands-on which will be the real scoop!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] scandalousk:
So, I've seen several people post similar comments through the Pixel 2 XL forums. You guys do realize that what you call "washed out" is actually correct color calibration. This nonsense started because people associate OLED with Samsung phones, and Samsung has OVER-saturated colors to give that eye popping effect. Some people like it, sure but it doesn't correspond with how objects really look.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] grinchyyy:
I second this assessment. Custom kernels will no doubt be along soon and you'll be able to tweak the screen to your liking.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] FMXP:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/10/pixel-2-and-2-xl-review-the-best-android-phone-you-can-buy/

The Ars Technica review calls out the XL screen for being grainy. Samsung got past their grainy phase of OLED displays back in the Galaxy S3 days. It's obvious how far behind LG is on phone OLED displays compared to Samsung. Why Google continues to use this trash-tier OEM for their flagship phone continues to baffle me. Maybe next year they'll use Samsung displays on both sizes after their HTC-based design team completely takes over.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] prakash99:
So none of the hands-on youtube videos taken at the Google Event on Oct 4 mentioned anything about the defective displays. Unless Google cherry picked only the rare non-defective units for the Google Event, I think this issue is blown out of proportion, especially after the ArsTechnica piece on LG V30 display, which was a pre-production unit. Not saying the problems are not there but I think the issues will not be a dealbreaker for me since I keep my phone's brightness level at 50% or higher. So hopefully the usual known issues do not manifest themselves on my unit.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bartolo5:
I've looked at the 2 XL for hours now (at Verizon stores) and the "washed out" aspect of it has nothing to do with color calibration. I'm certain the issue is the ridiculous color distortion you get if your phone is not **exactly** perpendicular to your vision. The moment you are looking at this display even slightly off angle, all color calibration arguments are thrown out of the window, because the display sort of turns into a monochrome display at an angle.

Most of the time you are not going to be looking at it exactly vertically, so you'll always see funny color reproduction unless you are careful. My Pixel XL didn't have any of this stuff going on. It actually had an awesome display.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] scandalousk:
I'm beginning to believe that ARS Technica has a faulty model though. Their assessment doesn't seem to align with other reviews which say the display is great.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens when lots of people have their phones in their hands.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mlin:
I think the "washed out colors" are a feature, not a bug. Google wanted a "Naturistic" display. They didn't really "allow" anything.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cryppie:
If you have see "similar comments through the Pixel 2 XL forums" then how did you miss the mass of comments stating the exact thing you just said about Samsung phones? Do you realize the screen that I saw was garbage - not correct color calibration? How would you know what I or anyone else saw? Reds that are gray and white that is blue is not correct color calibration. Samsung has nothing to do with it. Thanks for the helpful post.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] FMXP:
The Verge wasn't really nice about the screen either.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/17/16486108/google-pixel-2-xl-review-android-phone-camera

I like the way they're like "If we're being nice, it's uh -muted-. If we're being not nice, IT SUCKS." Subtle burns are the best burns I guess.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dkotoric:
I'm sorry but based on this picture you posted the pixel 2 xl looks better to me? Am I missing something?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jtwlbz:
Iphone is the most natural color production screen. Xl 2 is not even close its washed out too much from natural color.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] biggiestuff:
Some of the reviews said that sRGB is on be default but isn't it turned OFF on the 1st gen Pixels? Maybe switching that off in Dev options will bring it back the way it is with the 1st gen Pixels.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] osi13:
I just received a Pixel XL as a replacement for my 6P. sRGB is indeed off by default, but when turned on colors look "washed out" compared. I've had on sRGB all day today to see if my eyes will adjust but I actually prefer sRBG to be set to off.

My 2 XL will be here tomorrow. If I'm not a fan of the display I'll probably return it and wait to see what's in store for next year. No other phone really catches my eye and the Pixel XL is still a great phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] biggiestuff:
Please come back and let us know if srgb is on by default and if turning it off makes a difference.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] SlimJ87D:
Android Police

left Pixel, right V30

[IMG="Left Pixel XL 2, Right LG V30"]http://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/nexus2cee_DSC01744.jpg[/IMG]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Lightfall:
I have had a Galaxy S7 Edge since launch. While it is getting a little older, I would argue that the screen is still plenty good for any reasonable person. I compared my S7 in basic display mode against the Pixel 2 XL with various color images in the browser. There is nearly no discernable difference in colors on maximum brightness on both phones. I say nearly because blue does appear to be more rich (not just vivid) and red is a bit brighter red vs slightly more maroon on the XL. If I hadn't viewed the phones side by side I wouldn't have been able to tell a difference. Also, while the store was fairly bright, the XL screen was extremely uniform in white, gray, and multiple colors. I went as dark as I could while still discerning detail and the screen retained uniformity. Unfortunately, I feel that my S7 edge doesn't get quite dark enough for pitch black bedroom viewing and the XL was very roughly twice as bright at the lowest brightness. Basically, the screen is good enough that I will not miss leaving my S7 Edge and I will gain 3 years of updates, consistent fluidity, and front facing speakers. I will keep an eye on any official screen analysis and I am still curious about the performance on minimum brightness.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
Thank you, I'm also looking forward to this experience.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] wazka2:
To everyone saying 2 XL washed out colour is due to Google calibration, why would they calibrate both of their flagships differently... Pixel 2 has noticeably more vibrant colours and better display uniformity.

To be honest I am not that bothered about punchy colours but evenly "lit" screen. I hate pink, blue hues comming from edges of the panel.

I have seen both screens in person and preferred small Pixel 2 display over 2XL. Another problem with OLED that two same devices may have different screen quality, uniformity :(

OLED lottery!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] beezar:
Congrats, must be a relief. I luckily got a good one on my 2nd device. However, now I'm paranoid about dropping my device and breaking the screen despite having insurance, lol. Don't want to play screen lottery again...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] LimitsX:
Nah, I don't have time for it :), you may do that. In fact, you probably were frustrated for few hours with my remark ;).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] :
Lol me too
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] meboy:
Don't know why you're so confident that Google will take good care of you.

They have refused to take returns on warranty claim of several users here because of the blue.

I wouldn't trust for a second that Google or any company will take care of me under warranty. Especially when a product has so many issues.

It's up to them and they can easily say no.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
I agree with this statement. Only reason I'm confident is because Verizon is taking care of me through all of this. They will replace for blue screen. I've been told over the phone with Verizon numerous times now it's a shame Google won't just stand by their product, but be assured we'll take care of you. My 3rd device will be here tomorrow, I'll report how it looks when it arrives. :fingers-crossed: for an acceptable display.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] sharkoparko:
I got mine November 21 2017. Built October 31 2017. Screen is bad in my opinion. White comes as it has some tint on it. all color are darker and awkward nuance. All grays are going to black.

I currently have Pixel XL-great device! I am trying to keep it but looking all day at this screen is a reminder how bad it is. At $920 US Dollars its a lot to compromise. Maybe at $400 I would keep it. Google raised the prices and promised excellent devices, not with compromises as was with some Nexuses in some years when phones were $350, but were not best on the market. Yes, I have the update with the 3 colors mode, that fixes nothing, saturating colors cant fix these darkened colors. See some pictures examples, some details are

not even visible

because they were darkened out!! If you cant compare how bad the display is to a normal pic you might not notice that you are missing something.

see images

LEFT PIXEL XL 2

RIGHT PIXEL XL

roses on xl 2 have some bad black shadows in them, thanksgiving wooden panel is not visoble on the left side of image-left picture, grey background is black...etc
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cryppie:
Turn off adaptive brightness and compare.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] 26kick:
I lost the screen lottery

Hi all,

I've played the screen lottery once and lost. The screen on the RMA is even slightly more blue than my original device and Id like to try again. I haven't even activated it yet. What do I tell the Google store, or not tell them in order to succeed with another RMA? I actually called Project Fi (though I bought it through the Store) for the 1st RMA and they were more than accommodating. But at that time, I was within the 14 day return period. Now I am outside of that and fear a different attitude on the other end. I know, I should have returned and ordered a new one.

Should I call Fi again, or the Store? Do I tell them it's tinted blue? Any experience/suggestions you can share would be appreciated!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Cave_diver:
Just received a Pixel 2 XL (ordered from google, manufactured October 31) and

installed the Nov 5 update before taking a good look at the display.

The display has a slight reddish tint on all three color settings . The tint is even more pronounced in the saturated setting.

Also the whites are nowhere close to white (more gray) unless the brightness is increased to around 75% and more.

Tilting the phone makes the red tint turn into blue.

What is annoying is that if the phone is not held at a perfect angle, one part may be red while the other may be blue.

I'm sure the red/blue tint is something one can get used to, but...

In addition to that the display just looks meh to me. I don't know what is missing but something is. Dynamic range, contrast or whatever, something is just not right.

It doesn't look pleasing to me at all, in none of the color modes.

I'm pretty sad as otherwise the phone seems to be a winner. But considering the price I paid (939 EUR / 1114 USD including tax) it should have a close to perfect display and is going back.

I'm going to give the Pixel 3 another chance...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xflowy:
i just got mine and the displays seems really grainy and textured at low brightness. since it is a common issue i'm wondering if you still can get lucky and get a screen with no dirty texture feeling or if its just a matter of more or less grainy. are there people who claim to have a "sharp looking" display? if so, would you provide a pixture under said circumstances? im contemplating if it makes sense to rma the phone. if every pixel 2 xl has the issue to some degree i wont even bother.

thanks!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robn30:
Unfortunately you are at the mercy of Google now and they are not replacing devices for blue tint, easily. Your best bet is to say the blue tint occurs severely at angles that aren't extreme. Now that your grace period is gone you are in the lottery for good and hopefully they will work with you. Fact is, they know they have you now so there is no reason to work with you. Good luck, I hope they will and you eventually get a decent device.

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You and I are on the same wavelength, there is just something that is missing. For the price they are asking, I should be wowed when I see the display. I to was left with the feeling that I should be getting more quality in the way of the display for nearly $1,000. It's as simple as that. Add in the blue shift that varies greatly from device to device and it simply says Google dropped the ball with quality control. The only way I'll ever join the lottery is if the price drops buy $300 dollars or so. I'll give it a shot at that point.

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DON'T RMA, return for a refund if you can. If you RMA you will get stuck with the device when your grace period runs out. Most likely that will occur before you receive your second device or shortly after. The grace period doesn't reset when you RMA. Again DON'T RMA if you can return for refund and then order again.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] NWTSCL:
If you purchased with a credit card -- not a debit card, but an actual credit card -- you may be eligible for certain buyer's protection.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
I never thought I'd say this but. WE could start signing up for and taking that class action lawsuit seriously now that they're literally using this loophole in their warranty to get out of standing by their product. The more people that look the other way (like google is right now) they will likely get away with this BS fraudulent false advertisement. AND in turn not learning from their past mistakes. I got a feeling that if google is let off the hook for this the pixel 3 will have the same issues because they didn't pay any consequence for this., "working as intended" Why doesn't google say blue screen on commercial if it's working as intended? Why doesn't google show any blue even 1% on commercial? Hell they don't even mention or advertise the polarization feature(except in the livestream). Why does the smaller pixel 2 not have blue tint/shift at all? Why did google only come out after being called out to address the screen issues and then still dodge the straight on blue issues? Why are there 50 shades of blue screens? My first was too blue, my second was half pink half blue and shifted more blue at angle. Obviously we've seen perfectly good ones too, so there's reason to hope you'll get a good one eventually. BUT we shouldn't be the guinea pig for a $1,000 device let alone a $600 device. Google states they did excessive testing lol, they must've let any and all blue tint go from day 1 and call it good enough for their customers compared to the competition. (bad idea) for $1,000 device in a competing market, giving us every right and reason to compare these side by side unfortunately showing how subpar the display is compared to the competitors. Different price point we'd compare to cheaper models it may do better against. Don't get me wrong I want this device to succeed just as much as everyone else here but this is just getting downright arrogant and ignorant. I'm so glad Verizon is taking care of me with the blue screen. otherwise I would have ran away a month ago.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cwalker0906:
This is what is wrong with this country. People like you who want to sue. Go get a job. You have the option to return if you don't like, so return it. You wanna sue a company cause you don't like their product? Most ignorant **** I ever heard