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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Lightfall:
I just went to a totally different Verizon store today with my girlfriend's iPhone 6s Plus. Since apple focuses on "accurate" screens and millions of people buy them without complaint, I figured that if Google focused on making their screen "accurate" then it should reproduce colors as good or better than the iPhone. I found that in multiple images with "vivid colors" turned off the Pixel 2 XL had similar shades of color with some added vibrancy compared to the iPhone. I have noticed a back and forth between people saying the screen is inherently crap and people blaming it on Google's calibration. I can wholeheartedly say the majority of the issue is caused by calibration. I had a V30 just a foot away from the pixel and it comes with Samsung-esqe oversaturated colors out of the box. I compared a picture of red raspberries on the Pixel XL (vivid colors off), V30, and a Note 8. The v30 and note 8 looked nearly identical with the raspberries appearing to have come out of a nuclear reactor (a nice glowing reddish pink color). Meanwhile, the iPhone and Google pixel made them appear the proper shade of darker red that made them look more defined with some added depth. To be clear, switching the Note 8 to "basic mode" fixed this issue and made the raspberries appear their proper shade. What I took from this comparison is that the LG OLED screen is plenty capable of showing off saturated colors that compare to the Note 8 adaptive display mode. Google just chose to make it look more natural and therefore more muted. As for the blue tint, I agree that my Galaxy S7 Edge and the regular Pixel 2 do not exhibit it when viewing at an angle. The Pixel 2 does, however, start to get a rainbow effect at a more aggressive viewing angle than it takes to see the blue tint on the XL. In my personal use, I don't find myself using any of my screens at an angle other than straight on with the exception of my television. Therefore, the blue tint as of now is a non-issue for me. We will see if I have the same opinion after a week of use. As an interesting side note, I did not notice any immediately obvious display defects with the LG V30 other than the horribly oversaturated colors that appeared even less accurate than the Samsung adaptive display.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cryppie:
I will be very happy if my display looks like that. It looks nothing like what I saw at Verizon.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mdonnelly1127:
Did anyone find a way to get to the SRGB setting? You search for it in settings, but when u go into developer options it isn't there?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] onishchuk4:
Exactly! I too saw one @ VZ and next to my XL it looked like a major downgrade. I did a double-take several times. Left the store very confused afterwards.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ricey:
Here's another article going over the display. Pretty much if the screen is the main feature you look at when purchasing a phone you might want to reconsider. If not then the problems might not seem as pronounced as a lot of people make it. I'm going to wait and receive my own unit before I make any judgements. Although I do agree with other publications, had Google went with a generally better screen it would have been the best, most perfect android phone out right now. I think most are just more frustrated that it's so close.

https://www.cnet.com/news/pixel-2-xl-p-oled-screen-issue/
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] deadite66:
i've got a samsung s6, just tilted it on the side a bit and the screen turned blue'er. never noticed before.

i think people are overreacting.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] audioman42:
With all of this negative attention, I would be surprised if Google's next software didn't include more screen calibration settings. The POLED screen is certainly capable of higher saturation, and with enough complaints/returns Google will have no choice but to add a 'Samsung' option.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Redrockzz:
Feedback from google regarding the screens of the pixel 2 xl:

"We designed the Pixel display to have a more natural and accurate rendition of colors this year but we know some people prefer more vivid colors so we've added an option to boost colors by 10% for a more saturated display. We're always looking at people's responses to Pixel and we will look at adding more color options through a software update if we see a lot of feedback."
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ricey:
Pretty sure it will happen, they probably just added that last bit to give themselves some time headroom and insurance. They've gotten a ton of feedback already from the general masses, mostly negative lol. Plus even for those of us who like more natural and unsaturated colors, having more choices is always a good thing.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] nimrodiny:
Do you guys think a screen protector (of any kind) could potentially solve the blue haze thingy? It's probably happening because of the polarizing layer Google have added to the screen, so I'm wondering if this layer can be somewhat contrasted with an hardware workaround, such as a specific kind of screen protector? Just taking guesses here. Anyone?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ricey:
Pretty sure they will add it. They probably added that last bit to give them time headroom and insurance. They've gotten a ton of feedback from the general masses already and it's mostly negative lol.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] th3discodancer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERSUDinbmdE

Dear god.

---------- Post added at 01:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:27 PM ----------

I own a 6P too and the blue tint is indeed found on my 6P too.

I'm sure you also have it but having used that phone for a while, you've gotten used to it. Nonetheless, it is there on all 6P phones, unlike the pink tint which is infact an anomaly.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cryppie:
I don't remember ever seeing a complaint about blue tint until now and I was in the 6p forums for two years. Pink tint complaints were common.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] gm007:
Pixel 2 XL vs Lg V30 screen test [youtube]fImloF1jNC4[/youtube]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dbrohrer:
But why is no one complaining about the Pixel 2 (with a Samsung Panel)? I'm sure that got similar calibrations. Most reviews say it has good colors and good viewing angles. Hell I would bet Google engineers spent more time attempting to get the 2 XL panel right. It's OK the way it is right now. A software update with more calibration options might make it look a little better. But it won't ever be just good because the issue is with the hardware. I almost wish no reviewer had posted about the issues and I had never known. As soon as it gets pointed out you can't unsee it. Speaking from hand's on experience.

Google sh*t the bed by partnering with LG on this one. Side by side with my OG Pixel XL, this panel sucks.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blinkin:
So there is probably nothing Google can do about the blue tint? Is it consistent throughout all the reviews / pictures / videos? Did V30 have the same issues in the beginning and now with a new batch of phones it's gone?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Pixel 2 has AMOLED while the Pixel 2 XL has pOLED so even if the calibration was the same, the tech is what's making for a different look.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dbrohrer:
Blue tint at an angle is on every XL 2 panel. I don't know if they are all consistent or if there are variations. I don't know about the V30 besides what the reviews have said. Google will not be able to make the blue tint at an angle go away. They may be able to calibrate the screen where it is less noticeable (maybe?). I think that most people wouldn't notice the subpar aspects of the screen if no one pointed them out. If you aren't looking, you won't see many issues. But once you've seen it you won't forget its there.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blinkin:
Thanks, Vlad from Verge summarized it in the same way. I guess I will have to see it with my own eyes and decide what to do. If it will bother me, I probably go for the Pixel XL or the Pixel 2.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dbrohrer:
Yea that's my point. The pOLED tech arguably isn't up to the standard of typical AMOLED. To add to that LG is behind Samsung in this area. Between the Pixel 2 and the 2 XL, you are switching from a glass to a plastic substrate in order to get the curved form factor and smaller bezels.

My opinion:

Pixel 2 - quality screen, smaller battery, worse form factor (bezels)

Pixel 2 XL - More money, bigger battery, less bezel, worse screen

Battery is a plus but its not the primary reason people choose a small phone over a big phone. You get a big phone for the screen. That's the reason. So you pay more money for a bigger, "less good" screen. Google made my head explode this year. I think they should have priced the 2 XL lower because they knew this screen wasn't as good as it should be. None of the reviews and complaints are a surprise to them. We are back to the Nexus days now. Google asks an OEM for hardware, OEM supplies it, Google puts a great operating system on it, then says "Hi Everyone, we built a phone! We can offer the same thing as Apple!" The difference is, if Apple got this display from LG for the iPhone X (or one of their 2018 phones), Apple would tell LG to go to hell. Fix it or we drop the contract. Google gets a crap screen from LG and says "OK, we can make this work."

It's OK if it's not as good as an iPhone X, S8, or Note 8 panel. Just don't pretend it is and charge me a Note 8 price. If it was $100 less I would still buy it and be happy about it. Then at least I could justify that I paid a little less for a little less of a product. A compromise.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] pro4ever:
Just went to see it at my local store. Very disappointed with the xl 2 next to the pixel it looked very dull even at full brightness of the xl the pixel looks much better.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
My bad. I did miss your point it being a hardware issue. It does suck and I probably can't unsee it once I get the phone. For me, as long is it's good enough straight on I'll be fine with it since I want the smaller bezels, bigger screen, and bigger battery. I'm coming from a Nexus 5X.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dbrohrer:
I respect that. It's almost a perfect phone (in my opinion)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah if the regular Pixel 2 had the same design of the 2 XL just in a smaller package, I would've picked it up instead.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dbrohrer:
Agreed. 5.3-5.5" 18:9 in the smaller pixel 2 form factor would have been perfect for me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] umbrokhan:
https://www.imore.com/pixel-2-colorgate-and-oled-hard

Pixel 2 XL poor OLED screen
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] ProAm500:
This. Yet, I'm still a sucker and buying the phone. Luckily, with trades and selling my Pixel XL exchange from the 6p, I'm making out pretty good so that softens the blow.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] broughy99:
Any chance with all these screen quality debates that Google will supply software to change colours in a future OS update? I've seen many different Pixel 2 XLs in UK stores and compared to my Nexus 6 their not near in colour.

I saw a a Galaxy s8+ with an excellent screen but crappy skinned Android and Samsung horrible apks.

When I'm spending lots of $£€¢¥ on a phone I've pre ordered is the software is Google software more important to me than the hardware.

Please Google Allow us to sort the screen out if it's possible in software. Starting to wonder about my pre order. But what else is out there with stock android?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] haevolution:
Same here thinking to cancel my order but it gets here next week so I'll tough it out and return it if I'm not happy with the screen. I doubt a software update is going to affect the blue shift.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
You can buy an unlocked phone and toss a rom on it to get it close to stock android but always gonna have a chance it'll have some bugs in it. I am gonna give the phone a try, if its not good, it gets sent back. Each person is gonna be different and I understand that people want the best for spending that kind of money on it. With Verizon in the states you only get so many options that offer the WiFi calling that I need for my house when i'm in basement etc. To me its either Pixel or iPhone (hate to say it) cause I want a pure OS and updates. I hate that Samsung/LG are still on January/Feb updates for Android. And who knows how much longer they will be on them.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] broughy99:
True updates weeks an months behind Google. Apple oh god. Maybe
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jtwlbz:
It looks like they hide srgb option in dev menu. Hmmm
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Yeah I owned a 7+ for a couple months, and I loved the battery life and it just did things right, but hated that you cant change anything on it etc so I sold it for a Pixel XL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] broughy99:
Kinda my experience it works well - connects to my Mac laptop and syncs up iTunes/text/back up etc but even tho I love the macbook pro laptop I have the phones are well built but the OS even on v.11 doesn't come close to android in my opinion.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blazinazn:
More thoughts from Artem over at Android Police:

https://twitter.com/ArtemR/status/920836733989675008

Could the panels they are using be defective or is this just Google being Google like some have shared in this thread?!

Guess I'm gonna have to wait and see. I turned on sRGB on my OG Pixel XL and I'm not liking it. It's taking everything I have not to turn it off :(
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] droidguy22:
I wouldn't pay any more than $700 for 2 XL with such a weak hardware (poor screen, cheap feel with the plastic coating and lack of Headphone jack)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jtwlbz:
Pixel 2 xl just feels like its another affordable nexus phone not like $1k premium device. Speicially becuz of the qualitiy of this screen
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] YoungSkeezy:
I really feel the screen 'issue' is overplayed. Before receiving my Pixel 2 XL yesterday, reading this exact thread, I was getting pretty worried. Coming from the Note 8 especially, I was expecting some kind of doom and gloom.

The screen is actually VERY good. The colors ARE different. Very deep is how I'd describe it, not as saturated like on Samsungs displays. Side by side, the Note is better. Thats it. That doesn't make the screen on the Pixel BAD. I like it a lot. The only thing that bothers me (and my wife actually prefers) is that the color temp is pretty warm where the Note is cooler. (yellow tint at low brightness)

Stop worrying, the phones awesome, to include the screen.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] chris11882:
Sounds like it comes down to a personal preference thing. Myself, I like the more natural colors, and as a result, I never use a "vivid" setting or similar on any of my TVs. I played around with the sRGB option on my 6P, and it is very noticeable, but the colors are accurate. I took a picture of my shirt, and the image on my phone was nearly identical in color to my actual shirt, while with the sRGB option off, it was not accurate.

Hopefully Google allows for the option of more vivid colors sometime down the road for those who prefer that kind of thing. If that is the worst thing about the pixel 2 xl, I'll be more than happy. Now if they would just ship my phone.....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dbrohrer:
This CNET article is the most objective look at the issues that I have found.

https://www.cnet.com/au/news/pixel-2-xl-p-oled-screen-issue/

I think this all comes down to how important the screen is to you. If you just want a big Pixel, this is a great phone. If you are OCD, maybe think a little harder on it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
I've read somewhere that Google has replied about this and will put out a software update if enough people complain about the colors I think they are watching it to see how this turns out they do not want phones to go back I'm sure.shore
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] MarcianoS:
Frankly I'm more worried about the graininess / blotchiness issue than the blue tint or color temperature. I checked out a unit in a Verizon store (twice, but it was the same store and the same unit); at least in the lighting conditions of the Verizon store, the tint was a minor issue IMHO. Colors did look a bit muted, but I was comparing the 2 XL with my wife's iPhone 6s, not my own Nexus 6p.

I would be very interested to hear from people who are receiving their 2 XLs now. Do you see the graininess? Can you post pictures if you do? Thanks!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Cowbell_Guy:
Yeah I can't stand the screen as well. I need a rooted phone on Verizon... What are my other options? Note 8 or smaller pixel?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
lol rooted and Verizon dont go very well together :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] spikeekips:
I hope this isn't off topic, but I ordered the Pixel 2XL to replace my Nexus 6 that I love. Two of the big things to me were the speakers and the large, what I think is vibrant display. I know I need to go into a store to actually compare, but am I going to hate the screen on the XL if I love my Nexus 6 display? I have compared mine in the past to HTC M9, Samsung S7, and to me they aren't as nice.

Should I cancel my order, wait to see in person? Or am I just over-reacting?

Thanks in advance.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Goronok:
Personally, I think this screen issue is blown out of proportion. Coming from a Nexus 6, the XL2 is definitely an upgrade.

Most people here are making comparisons to Samsung panels (S8, Note 8, Gen 1 XL, etc) and while these displays are better, that doesn't make the XL 2 display terrible. (or even bad)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Just got mine in the mail and to me the screen looks pretty good, I'm impressed by it, Verizon messed up and sent me one after I tried to cancel the order 3 times so I"ll use this one for the next 4-5 days until my unlocked ones come from Google on Monday or Tuesday. More than likely this will be my phone I'm going to keep. The verizon one does come locked (not sure if someone mentioned that or not yet) I went to a white page and the blue is there, but its not a deal breaker for me at least.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Wiley_11:
I just got my Pixel 2 XL yesterday to replace my Nexus 6. I think the screen is a lot better. Check it out, you can always return it. :D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Kusanagi Fire:
Honestly, I also think this screen thing is overblown. Yes, the colors are "different" compared to the AMOLED screens in other phones. However, I compared the colors of the Chrome icon to various PC/laptop screens I have lying around at home and work and I have to say the Pixel 2 XL colors are similar to that. Hopefully Google can just add the toggle down the road for people who prefer brighter colors with more pop.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Yeah I just did the same thing, matches my macbook pro's chrome icon exactly... no its not Samsung bright but I guess i'm not a fan of that
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] MarcianoS:
Smart move! I just compared the Chrome icon on my Retina iMac and my Nexus 6p, and indeed the Nexus's is way brighter. Now I won't be able to unsee it!!! :)

Thoughts about the grainy whites, esp. at low brightness / low lighting?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
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People are gonna see what they wanna see if one of their YouTuber or CNET has said it's there. Are some people gonna return it? Sure. Is it a deal breaker for me? I will get over it because in 5 days I'll be use to it. I want a good camera that I can just point and click with no hassle for my kids and I want great battery life with stock Android. I made the mistake of trying other brands and just didn't want to go back and buy last year's Pixel when this one was coming out now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
In my opinion I stopped by a Verizon store and looked at it myself checked it out thoroughly the screen is not bad it looks great to me I'm not a fan of saturated colors myself I think it looks vibrant and Crystal Clear the only thing I did notice was the blue hue which I can live with cuz you can't even see it when you're looking straight at your phone. Mine is being delivered tomorrow morning. I'm satisfied with the way the screen looks there's too much good about this phone to me to pass it up. Just my personal opinion maybe it'll help you decide.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] VanGolfer:
Google says Pixel 2 XL may get more display color options in a software update:

https://9to5google.com/2017/10/19/google-pixel-2-xl-display-color-options/

....

We designed the Pixel 2 to take advantage of multiple facets of the innovative new POLED technology, including QHD+ resolution with 538 pixels per inch as well as a wide color gamut. One of our design intents was to achieve a more natural and accurate rendition of colors. We know that some people prefer more vivid colors, so we’ve added an option to boost colors by 10% for more saturation. We’ll continue to pay close attention to people’s responses to Pixel, and we will consider adding more display color options through software if that makes the product better.

....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] spikeekips:
You guys are awesome. Thanks for the opinions, info and comparison tips. Back to looking forward to my new handset.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Fenny:
I have mine. There is a noticeable blue hue to the image when the screen is viewed from an off angle. The screen is also noticeably dimmer than the pixel XL when viewed side by side.

That being said, the screen quality is still great, and the change from the eye-raping brightness of the previous amoled panels is a welcome one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] underscore_overscore:
I absolutely agree. If we're paying the kind of money that Google is asking for, then the hardware should be up to the best current standards, the processor etc is, so why not the display? That said, I'm actually OK with the cool temperature screen (thats the way I calibrate my TV's and on my phones too). I hope the blue tint in off-angle viewing is not too bad, but what I really hope is that there's no color inconsistency of the type that the verge reported. That last point would be an instant deal-breaker for me, not so much everything else as there really aren't any other Android phones which I'm considering due to late/non-existent OS updates.

I guess I'll find out on Oct 26th when my Pixel 2 XL black is here.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Poloasis:
I just spent sometimes "about 40m" with the Pixel 2 XL at a VZ Wireless store, the initial setup was on a Verizon demo with full brightness, I exited out of that, lowered the brightness to 40% and start bringing some colors on screen from google image "full" and did not notice any uniformity issues there. I had my Pixel XL doing same next to it. Played some YouTube video to hear the front firing speakers and they sounded good, much louder the XL. Also pulled multiple web sites to look for the grainy effect and color issues on small icons, didn't see that also. One thing I noticed is the the screen brightness can really go low, much lower than XL, full brightness is very bright. I tried all that with vivid color on and off. You can see some difference between the toggle but nothing major. In all, it look freaking awesome. Not going to cancel my order, I'm glad I had some hands on with it.