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[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nickporwal:
Yeah i got it after following up with them numerous times.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] darshanbangre:
Oh okay.. how long did it take? its been 87 days and I have still not got it.. I called them up today and they took the request.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
it will be credited after 90 days check in the next credit card bill payment .
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Anyone using ringke smoke black case? If yes, does it also turns yellowish with time like the clear one?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] piyush7243:
Yes it did in my case after 4 months
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] srinivas2901:
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[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Thanks for confirming. Clear cases are great looking but this issue is annoying. I'd rather not spend 1000 RS for a case that'll turn yellow in a few months.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nickporwal:
I got the cashback after 115 days approx.... They had a weird logic that cashback will be credited by the end of bill cycle. Initially they had no clue about it. They were extending the deadline by 10 days randomly. Worst experience given by HDFC to me. ICICI is much better in this case. Same thing happened with 2 of my friends. I purchased pixel2 and they purchased pixel2 XL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Any1 able to register with airtel volte beta in Delhi,??
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
No. Pixel is not supported by Airtel as of now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
I don't think they have fully rolled out in Delhi. It won't work till the time Volte is activated from backend on your. I checked here but it says that it isn't rolled out yet. https://www.airtel.in/volte/beta
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sanke1:
Any news or ETA for 3CA on our Pixel 2/XL phones? Half price One Plus users laugh at us as they can enjoy 3CA on Jio.

Let me explain why 3CA is important. On Jio, it latches to either B40 (No CA) or B3+B5 (2CA). Everyone knows how congested and pathetic B40 is. I barely get 1 Mbps when on it in Mumbai. However, internet speed is excellent when connected in B3+B5 mode. Always in excess of 30 Mbps and low pings. If 3CA is enabled by google, then we can have B3+B5+B40 at all times and speed will also be great and latency issues will be solved. I do repent that I got this overpriced phone which not only has screen issues, but cannot behave like a Top-Of-The-Line product because of Google's incompetence. BTW 3CA is already enabled on the Verizon Network in US.

Do Google even give a s*** about Indians apart from data harvesting?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] zelendel:
I wouldnt count on it being fixed any time soon. As India uses a setup that nowhere else in the world uses, google will not really be inclined to change it. Mainly if it interferes with the way other countries do things. The reason one plus does it is that their main focus is india where cheaper devices sell better then flagship devices.

Verizon has their own model of the pixel. So that is not surprising as verizon uses old out dated Cell tower tech. Heck they still run on CDMA. Which is only used by 3rd world countries or really poor carriers.

It will be interesting to see how things go once LTE is retired for the next protocol which will arrive in less then 2 years.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
On the latest April release, the battery mileage has really improved atleast on Pixel 2. Even under harsh sun conditions, the screen at max brightness doesn't drain much. Not to mention the kernel fixes which have resulted in great standby and active drain aswell. A welcome upgrade.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] vivektyagi20:
Another annoying thing with HDFC is that they deduct GST amounting to ~Rs. 100 every month. It nullifies the whole "no-cost" EMI claim that the bank boasts off.

Anyone else also getting a GST amount added to the monthly statement?

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Here's what happened with my device's replacement.

I was facing the notorious proximity sensor issue for 2 months when I decided to get the device checked. I requested a call to Google and they arranged device pickup. The service guy visited my office, picked my device (I had submitted the box - in case the device gets replaced, Google gives you a sealed box, if you give the phone only, you'll get a new phone), handed over a brand new loaner device in Nexus 6P (I had requested not to provide a 5X) and took it to the collection centre in Noida. This is Day 1.

They said they will run some diagnostic tests which I knew would not solve the issue.

Day 2. The device was then sent to Mumbai at the main service centre the next day and since Google doesn't repair and simply replaces the device, I was expecting that they will run some more checks (mostly flashing latest image, stock firmware, etc) which I had already done at my end. Make sure your device isn't rooted and the device isnt running on any custom ROM.

Day 3. I received a call from the collection centre in Noida that I can collect a brand new P2XL.

I never expected such sharp and fast service. The experience was great. I do hope that I don't face any issues again, though.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nitin.chobhe:
Yes, I also saw that. The amount gets reducing every month - I think it is calculated based on the remaining principal and interest thereon.

I calculated and overall we pay ~600 INR extra in from of GST :(

Nitin
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] siddhesh.raikar:
Anyone buying the Google Home or the Mini?

I really want to and probably will, but hopefully they don't pull a Pixel 2 in 15 days.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit3221:
[emoji23]

Also.. Now that the Google Home is available in India. Is it worth importing it from U.S.?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
As usual HDFC is awful. ICICI doesn't charge any gst seperately. They divide the EMI into 3 parts with principle, interest and gst.

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Doesn't make sense importing as you can get lot of offers on Flipkart including 10% discount on HDFC cards ans 18 months of paid gana and savan.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nitin.chobhe:
I've been using HDFC services (Savings bank account, CC) since past 13 years now and my experience with them is very good so far. They never gave a chance to complain. And this GST stuff is not in their control afaik.

Nitin
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Gst is under their control. The EMI amount should be inclusive of GST or atleast they should clearly mention that gst will be charged extra. Can't argue with your point on their service as I've personally never had an account with them but none of my friends have had a good experience with them.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nitin.chobhe:
Yes, agree they should have clearly mentioned that beforehand.

Nitin
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ash1198:
How to install Google pixel 2 camera on Samsung gave grand prime with snapdragon 410 processor. It's so me in com table with device. Any solution.. Give me
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ICEMAN_SID:
Guys how is the experience of Google pixel 2 XL for you all. I have read many posts in this thread but, still do most of the guys recommend it as the best android flagship available or are there any better available choices. Now after cashback G Pixel XL2 is available for 49k. i believe it is much more value for money now. I am a HTC fan and won't really go for samsung. HTC's lack of footprint make it tough to go for it and really feel that no other brand can match the latest and updated android experience which a pixel will provide. Please share your views.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Too near to new phone launches.... Won't recommended for now.....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ICEMAN_SID:
Yes..you are right in a way but, I feel that buying at this I am getting a better deal. This thing was launched at 65k and the price cut is of 16k.

New pixel is expected to be even costlier. Launch prices and generally overboard for all the brands..only by December we get the first price cuts and better prices.

To wait for another 6 months feels like very long..I can only wait for HTC U12 but, then again HTC won't get prompt updates like google and the resale is also very poor.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
If updates are your priority, then you don't really have any other option except pixel. If you can live with slower updates. Galaxy s9+ is a great piece of hardware. Htc's after sales service used to be quite bad untill 2-3 years ago. Not sure about them now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Nokia 8 Sirocco
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Nokia 8 wont be able compete with pixel in camera plus it's a smaller screen. It does have stock android but for 50k it's not a good deal.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ICEMAN_SID:
I am not much inclined towards Samsung but, yes pixel does leave a certain things to desire in terms of hardware like, 4GB ram instead of 6GB, Average display and bezels are slightly on the larger side for 2018.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Don't worry about the ram. Ram management is great and it never slows down. 6gb and 8gb rams are overkill imo.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
Bank cannot charge GST on EMI as per rules
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] carahul.368@gmail.com:
Rohit, I have had the exact same issue! Pre-ordered at 73K, since Nov I have now had 3 replacements so far and all with the same speaker distortion. They somehow insist that it is a software issue and not a hardware problem, and that they are coming with a patch soon!

Current status - my 3rd replacement phone is lying with B2X, I am using an old phone since 30+ days and I'm still waiting for a refund.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
how did you managed to get the refund granted by Google ...as per Google there is no refund policy in India
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
I'd agree... They don't seem to have a refund policy... At least not in India.. as they don't handle the sales directly
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mayankcse10:
Bro they are not charging GST on EMI per say. They are charging 18% GST on the interest amount you pay to the bank, which is as per rules. The same would also apply to any service charge or processing fees that you pay to the bank.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
Google just ended the replacement policy in India, can anyone confirm this.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Ended it meaning? They'll now repair the device and return it back?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Sukhi:
What i guess he means to say is that Replacent policy has been tightened. They'll only offer replacements under rare circumstances where ever they feel it necessary.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
That is ok I guess. Indians don't waste an opportunity to misuse any service. They ruined it with Amazon so they stopped taking returns for phones. And now people are most probably sending in their phones for very minor issues so maybe that's the reason for tightening of the policy.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
Yes only repairs will be done no replacement now onwards.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit3221:
Yes. I can confirm that. B2X FST actually told me the same thing. The phone will not be replaced unless it has a significant issue.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Repair is alright if they do the job properly. But flashing android again is not really is repair.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
yes repair is alright but at least problem should be resolved what's the point of extending warranty, when even after sending device to service centre if issue is not resolved.

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In that case what will be the significant issue and who has the authority to decide on the issue because in my case the speaker issue is severe.

Also why would anyone want to sent their device to service centre if it's working properly because this is the first time I had sent my device repeatedly to service centre after in 12 years of usage.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit3221:
I know.

They had my device for more than 20 days. And ultimately they did nothing and returned it back asking to wait for another update.

I asked B2X what will happen if I dont accept the device. He replied that Sir our hands are tied. We'll just sit on the device until the next update comes out.

I thought it was better to atleast use the device myself rather than B2X having my device so I accepted it.

Also an interesting thing to note here.

The FSTs are from B2X. And the calls are handled by GCon team.

They are not a part of Google. Its just Google has outsourced its services to them.

The only time I've been contacted directly by Google was a feedback call when the device was returned to me. You can recognize it from the STD prefix - 040 (Hyderabad).

Well when I got the call from Google itself, I made it pretty clear that I'm going to wait till may update and that I've been forced to accept a faulty device. So he said that he'll look into the matter. That was 2 weeks back. No updates since.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
same thing happened to me but i accepted the device as they have not even flashed the april update so in hope that issues is resolved i accepted the device but issue was not solved. I got the call regarding the feedback from google i think on 11th april since then nothing happened no calls from google. So in these types of cases replacement was the only option rather than waiting for the monthly update as speaker issue can be noticed easily.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nitin.chobhe:
Agree! Happens everywhere... :(

Nitin
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
It's rate is considerably less in other places... Over here... We misuse it to it's tilt and then crib about it...

Genuine replacements get affected due to it...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
you are absolutely correct
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit3221:
Yeah. They're not going to replace devices even with serious distortions. They keep on saying that it's just a software issue and should be fixed by "next" update.

The thing which bugs me is if it is a software glitch. Then why doesn't it affect all Phones. I've compared my phone with 2 other Pixels. And the difference is HUGE. The distortions on my device is really bad. Let's hope for the next update.

Anyway I have Flipkart's buyback guarantee till 19th November. I thought I would never have to use it, but if this goes on I'll actually end up using it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
I am also planning to use the buyback guarantee for note 9 may be before that there is no other major device launch.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ankursrinivas:
https://xdaforums.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/pixel-2xl-whatsapp-discussion-t3780715

A WhatsApp group guys.. please join!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mohitpahwa:
I have created a WhatsApp Discussion Group for Pixel phones. Here's the link to join that group.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Why the onset of WhatsApp groups???
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ankursrinivas:
Thought it would be a good organisation of people having the pixels together
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ICEMAN_SID:
Guys I finally bought Pixel 2 XL after contemplating for quiet a while and weighing my options..

I am impressed by the fluidity of this thing and the fact that I am on latest Android version...

Also there are some nice touches to the software..

But, I do not know if it's a buyer's remorse or what but, I am sort of disappointed by the build quality and issues that many people here have mentioned..

Firstly the colour shift is quiet apparent on the screen..At times in watsapp I am seeing two different colours at top and bottom..the shift is very quick and it ends up looking like some colourful hue of different colours on screen.

When playing songs the vibration of the screen makes it feel like a cheap phone and not like a flagship device of one of the world's biggest company

The sound output is different for top and bottom speakers with top one sounding like somewhat broken..like a buzzing sound..like a " fata" hua speaker..

Sound is coming muffled on some calls..

A trail is left on the screen when you scroll it reading black text on white background..

Are these common issues which can be solved by warranty or shall I not bother..? I guess there is no return policy in India..

Looks like years of using HTC's build quality and good LCD panels has kinda spoiled me..! But , I expected a better job from Google and LG.

It can be a bit of buyer's remorse for me as I generally am prone to it..

Also are there any other issues that I should look out for ? Is it possible that they are now dumping defective handsets in India?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
you shouldn't have purchased pixel 2 xl and there is no solution to all the above issues.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ICEMAN_SID:
Well it's been couple of days now..I am really impressed with the performance and have already made peace with most of the issues and loving the clean UI and speed of the phone..Also being on the lastest software and patches is slick..

I think it is best performing and most fluid phone I have navigated including iphones..

Now I am only going to watch for speaker distortion. I will compare it with my friend's phone and see if it is normal or it is mine only. Then only might give Google a call for check.

Anyways I believe you are being sarcastic cause of the long list of gremlins I mentioned in my previous post.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit3221:
Totally agree with what you said.

But just a heads up. Google will not do anything for the speaker distortion issue. They'll just keep your phone for a couple of weeks and return it to you after flashing the same build that you're currently on.

If you're still not satisfied, they'll just say that Google knows the issue is there and they're working on a software patch to address it. "The issue will be fixed in the next update."
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ICEMAN_SID:
Well thanks for the feedback. I am also not to keen to give them my device and then get nothing done..

Have they stopped exchanging the device for a new device as well?

I will rather keep it and enjoy the good parts and maybe make a switch to pixel 3 if it is seriously awesome in terms of hardware as well..else will wait for pixel 4:D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Speaker distortion... Whos to tell that its not a software issue... Have you opened the phone and found the hardware to be faulty.... U do understand that providing high current to speaker can produce same result.... For all I know I find it mere stupidity to crib about something insignificant.... Had it been worse even at lower volumes I might have agreed that replacement is necessary but it only happens at full volume.... Which quite frankly is just plain stupid to do in a phone with tiny speakers.... Do you expect Bose level sound quality....

The only issues I know of with this phone is the blue tint which is totally liveable.... I haven't noticed it since the time I deliberately was looking for it....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit3221:
What you're saying is absolutely correct.

I am no expert in terms of hardware. But what bugs me is the failure on Google's part to deliver software update to rectify even after promising countless times. I was assured the issue would be fixed in March update - It wasn't. Same happened again in April. Now I am waiting for May update.

You maybe one of the lucky ones for getting a device which doesn't have significant distortions. However some of us are not that lucky. So this my friend isn't stupidity. It's just bad luck.

Anyway Interesting question - If the same software build is running on 3 different Pixel 2 XLs (Personally verified) - then why is the range of distortions so much?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Well funny thing about bugs is that they don't show up in all of the devices... They like a disease in humans... Not necessary that everyone will contract it...

Also google is google... They still have fixed a multi touch issue.. which to be honest I haven't really encountered.. or know how to recreate... Google doesn't fix something till the time the issue is raised in tech blogs and sites like the India media does for policitcs and polls
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] souvikxda:
Dude, is it okay to Buy Pixel 2 XL now in India? Flipkart is currently, giving 10K cashback on Pixel 2 X. I'm still confused. I know about all the problems it have but it has great camera, a build that I like, Fluid android exp and hopefully we will get till Android R as per google.

Do you have any advise?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Wait it out mate... If memory serves me right OnePlus had a dxomark poster for one plus 6 with xxx value... As in it scored in the 100s... So if that's the case for avengers edition of OnePlus 6.... I would have bought it as my second phone but was too excited to get Nokia 1 and using it for hotspot purpose now....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ICEMAN_SID:
Guys already lost my 3.5mm to usb c dongle given by google. Is their a way to get the original google one here in India?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rohit25:
Did we even get one??? I never checked.... Been using Bluetooth for almost a year now... Have a pretty good collection as well... Honor earbuds... Senneiser ones and Mdr1000x(which I haven't used for even 2 hrs)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ICEMAN_SID:
Yes. it is present inside at the bottom of the packing. I was using it as my old car that I take to office does not have Bluetooth. And as always Indian website doesn't have all the accessories available. Will need to order from outside India provided they ship it..As for headpones guess I will buy new usb type C one's.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nikhil.agrawal:
Less likely google will ship it to India. You could try 3rd party adapters. There aren't really many options available for USB c earphones. Also you can get a Bluetooth adapter for your car. Amazon basics has one for 1500 RS. And local ones are even cheaper.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] goti(0):
After sending bug report on 19th today I got the reply

Thank you for contacting google support !

After the findings of the software team as per the bug report., the device is working as intended . I would have to request you to use the device as it is.

Thanks for reaching out to us. Have a wonderful day ahead !

Thanks!

Bhavya R

The Google Support Team

basically Google is neither recognising nor resolving the issue so whoever is facing the i don't think there will be any solution.