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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bootup:
I have both phones, and except for the part where the S8 might have the 'better' (I think its just brighter, V30 is more realistic) screen, I disagree with every one of OP's points. I mean really, the size? The V30 is 3mm wider, 5 mm taller, almost a mm THINNER, and virtually the same weight. Thats barely any difference, especially considering V30 has a screen .2 inches bigger

If you have problems getting to volume button, you DO NOT have big hands. I have normal hands and I have zero problem reaching any button on the V30. Funny thing is that the Volume buttons on the S8 are actually a smidgen higher than the V30. There is almost zero lag in both of those apps for me on V30. S8 is pretty lag free also, so that's a wash.

The UX thing is just funny. There are a million launchers/themes/icon sets out there that can change the look of any phone. I think the V30 UI is more subdued and natural and just says 'use me right'. The S8 jumps out at you like an attention whore. I feel like I need to dial back the tones, colors and overall 'HEY LOOK AT ME' screen of the Samsung phones.

If you had the 'sky is falling' screen issues (that can only be seen in certain specific test instances) or maybe is so vain that the selfie camera wasn't up to your speed, I can understand. But you're complaining about 3 things that are absolutely not true. In my household are 2 V30, a V20 , a 6p, an S8, S8+ and a Note 8 (with a Pixel 2 on the way) and I tell you the V30's are by far the best phones in that group.

I love to see critical analysis of any phone and I have no brand loyalty to anyone. Out of all the personal reviews I've read, this is just downright the worse and farfetched. Sounds like you just wanted to hate the phone and you found ways to meet that hate. Enjoy your S8

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My wife is 5'0, 100 pounds woman that wears XS everything, including gloves. She was amazed how small the V30 felt in her hands and how light it was for such a big screen.

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Quick side by side test

S8 on left, V30 on right. S8 is running basic touchwiz, no other launcher. I have about 35 apps on phone, Adguard running in background. V30 has about 200 apps, running Nova, Adguard, Gear s3, Android Wear all running in background. Made this real quick to show the 'atrocious' scrolling lag in reddit app of the V30......
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] tossero:
[MENTION=529092]Bootup[/MENTION] The two phones are on automatic brightness?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gilley:
Have you tried a hard reset and tried again? This phone is buttery smooth compared to the s8. I downloaded Sync to test out scrolling compared to my s8 and it has no problem with Sync/FB/Chrome anything. Only problem i've had with it is the camera and taking fuzzy photos which I have a replacement coming.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ThugEsquire:
Cool bud, glad you like your V30. I really want the V30 to do well since competition helps out everyone.

I handed the V30 to my buddy and asked him to tell me what he thinks. He IMMEDIATELY noticed the laggy scrolling and also noticed a new thing I had not, which is the irregular brightness of the screen with auto-brightness on.

When people don't notice the problems I notice, it's not so much that they're not having the problems I found, it's just that they haven't noticed them (yet), or they don't care. Attention to detail ain't everyone's forte, let's be real.

And of course there's always the possibility that a large percentage of V30s have hardware issues, and yours hasn't, so you haven't had any of the problems I've had.

Either way, I think LG can make it right, and I sincerely hope they do. Everything I've seen so far seems to be a software problem, potentially fixable in an OTA update -- but who knows when that will happen. The V30 should be the best phone on the market today -- but it's not, at least not yet.

LOL at the big hands thing, too. To each his own. Anyone reading this needs to grip the phone to know whether it's comfortable or not. I'm sure it's fine for some people. I'm also sure the volume buttons are too damn high on the left side.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ThugEsquire:
The phone is new out of the box, I'll just leave it at that.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gilley:
Ya, I understand that being the phone was just released..... you can still get bad transfers etc when downloading all your previous apps from other phones etc. I agree with people earlier you are literally looking for every reason not to like it so just return it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
I do QA testing for a pharmaceuticals software and robotics company and previous to that I did consumer electronics hardware/software testing. It's pretty much my forte. (Or people could realistically die.)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Darriousx:
I'm not saying that you aren't experiencing lag, because I believe that you are, however, I upgraded from an S8 and I will say that, yes, there was some lag when using instagram and sync. Though on the v30 I have found that not to be the case with Sync. Yes, there are moments of lag on occasion particularly when multitasking or using the camera app usually from quick launch and it often occurs when launching in terribly low light situations. That being said I would factory reset it.

4 people on my family plan all got v30s. 3 of us had no issues or lag like whatsoever accept for the occasional hiccup like I mentioned above (or a second delay when launching a fresh app from the home screen). Now, the 4th person had a terrible issue with scrolling like as you mentioned above and a couple other issues that none of us were experiencing. It confused me so much but I decided to factory reset their phone, twice might I add just to be sure, and lo and behold he has not had an issue with scroll lag once since then.

Just a suggestion to factory reset it ;) It's just that a majority of users aren't getting any scrolling lag that is excessively bad.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] psawjack:
Are you new to Android? If so then please allow me to tell you that a factory reset is basically the number one step in Android trouble shooting. I happen to know someone who works in a carrier tech support team and when a wierd, unexplainable issue occurs they always have the customer do a factory reset. Sucks that it's an issue out of the box but it sounds like from others that it's a fix so that's a positive!

Good luck!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] 20degrees:
The first thing I do with any type of lag is cache clear and if that doesn't work, factory reset from recovery.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bootup:
The S8 was. The V30 was on manual with comfort view on since i was doing some reading on it.

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A possibility of large percentage of V30 having hardware problems?! Where, when? Besides a few folks complaining about the screen when viewing a grey background at 0% brightness, there have been almost no reports of hardware issues, nevermind a 'large percentage'. You're making up stuff now.

How do you keep saying the V30 buttons are too high but you're fine with the S8 when the S8 buttons are HIGHER than the V30? Not only higher but then you have the extra Bixby button right underneath the down volume that I can accidentally hit a third of the time when reaching for volume. The off-center fingerprint button of the S8 is higher than the V30 volume buttons.

I give benefit of doubt but I"m seriously doubting everything you're saying. You said you have a friend, who I"m sure has a phone. Why didn't you ask him to take a video of your two phones side by side doing a simple test like I did?

Mind you, I didn't even do my typical factory reset when I got the phone. This is straight out of the box performance.

You come with your 'read this first' headline but you're sprouting zero basis statements with no evidence that no one else (even people with multiple devices) are seeing.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ThugEsquire:
Why would I bother to upgrade to the V30 if I didn't want to like it?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gilley:
Then why not just try what people have said to fix it if you "really want to like it" . Like i said, try factory reset and go from there.... if it does it again, tell them and return it for another one cause its not natural
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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
I know there is a thread on the V30 forums that are more biased towards the V30, I am curious to see what the Pixel guys have to say. I am torn between the two right now. I'm on Verizon so I got the unlocked Pixel XL 2 Unlocked on preorder but the V30 is the Verizon version which is locked. I dont know if i plan on ever putting custom roms on it but i like the option to if I want to.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Shuthefrontdoor:
As awesome as the v30 looks and on paper, I cannot live with lgs skin, it's hideous ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] stroths:
To me it depends on how important an up to date pure Android experience is to you. The v20, for example, is still running 7.0, so the LG updates are a bit slow. I prefer the quad dac and headphone jack on the v30, but the software ranks higher on my wish list.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Yeah, I've never owned a LG phone until I picked up the V30 last week to try it out. Loving the feel and experience with it so far. Never have I gotten this good of battery life on a phone either. 4 hours of SOT and still at 35%. I use Messenger/FB/Snapchat which are all hogs and this thing is handling it no problem. I have to go into a verizon store and see what the pixel feels like in hand. I love the idea of stock android with updates when they come out because I know I wont ever be able to root and toss on roms on my V30 cause its Verizon.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Kusanagi Fire:
Yeah, I had my sights on the V30, still do, to be honest. However, at the end of the day, quick updates from Google is where it's at and the P2 phones are getting three years of them (although I am honestly likely to upgrade in a year or two).

Having said that, when the V30 drops in price, I will definitely consider picking one up as a backup. I love the idea of a HiFi DAC and the second wide angle camera. I just can't stay away from pure Android for my main driver.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] georgiapi:
I guess the V30 is like a Pixel 2xl with LG skin, Bloat, Expandable Memory, Ear Bud Jack, 2 year warranty promo, slippery back, ( I handled on [MENTION=271250]att[/MENTION]) different audio and camera hardware.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dmb219:
Yea, they aren't that much alike from what I see. Similar maybe, but that's about it. Pretty much a coincidence that the P2 XL and V30 were released at the same time. That's not a bad thing and nothing implied about either. Both awesome phones. I can't give up that update on the 1st Monday of the month.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Yea I had the Pixel XL, sold it and went back to an iPhone just for battery life because my Pixel XL wasnt getting more than 3 hours of SOT, and then traded the iPhone for an s8 + $200 on Craigslist. So i've been rocking the s8 for a couple months now and I can agree that its gotten a lot better than it use to be. Its my first Samsung that i've actually given a try since my Note 4 that I had and hated. Needless to say I hate that they dont get the updates but as you have said in your post, is the updates worth the look/features of another phone right now. I watch quite a bit of content on my phone without headphones so the stereo speakers would be nice but after having the s8 and no bezels (I know its not a huge thing but I like a sexy looking phone) it will be hard to go back to ones with a lot of bezel. The V30 is just perfect, I'm not a fan of the s8 curved edges as sometimes you wanna touch something along the edge and just cant get it. Only gripe on the v30 has been the camera which Verizon is sending me out another unit because they think its faulty. Last night I had 4 hours of SOT and still 35% left which is the best i've ever had on an Android phone. I use messenger/facebook/snapchat etc so I kill batteries fast and this thing just handles it like its nothing. I've never owned an LG phone but this thing might have sealed the deal for me. I still have my 2XL on order and when I receive my replacement V30 I should receive the 2XL before my 14 day return period is up so I can use both side by side not in a store having someone breath down my back for a sale.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Redrockzz:
You can just put another skin on top. Afaik the hardware is nearly the same on both phones (except camera) so maybe there will be also a smooth bugfree aosp rom for the v30 too.

Tbh I also looking forward to the Mate 10 presentation tomorrow, because Huawei is making the best UI from all skin androids regarding performance.

So maybe I just get a Mate10 and put pixel / nova launcher on it, instead going with the pixel 2 xl.

I preordered Pixel 2 xl (release in germany in 15.11.17) but if the mate 10 has more advantages i would go with huawei this year.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bsg411:
Is the LGV30 rootable? The latest update thing from pixel phones can be solved if the phone is rootable...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] sn0warmy:
After leaving the gym this morning, I decided to poke my head back into the Verizon store next door to spend some more time doing a hands on side-by-side comparison.

In playing with both phones, I started taking some observations made by others into account, as well. One thing that I must admit is very cool, is the ability to squeeze the 2 XL to open Google Assistant. One of my concerns with this was whether squeezing the phone would lift a full coverage tempered glass screen protector. I am concerned that the addition of a TPU case, paired with a full coverage screen protector, would be an issue with this because the front edges of the TPU case would likely push into the screen protector whenever you activated the assistant. This could potentially lift the screen protector around the edges, which would get annoying. But the reality of this concern is yet to be seen.

The other thing others mentioned was just how ugly the built in LG dialer and messages apps are. I spent time trying to make a call in the LG dialer and the built in messages and have to agree that both those apps provide a very ugly experience. And since LG/Samsun make it next to impossible to fully replace the dialer/messages apps, it's something you'd have to live with in one way or another. Going back to the built in dialer and messages apps on the 2 XL were a breath of fresh air.

In addition, this time around I decided to test the speakers on each phone. I've gotta say, the front facing stereo speakers on the 2 XL are pretty spectacular. Especially when directly compared to the V30 and my S8. The bottom speaker on the V30 and S8 sound very "raspy" and hollow, in comparison. Plus, those bottom facing speakers don't get nearly as loud and are easy to accidentally cover with your finger. For my testing I used the Youtube app to test Marquees Brownlee's Pixel 2 XL YouTube review video and then the "Imagine Dragons - Believer" video, to give me an idea of how music and normal web content would sound. The front facing speakers on the 2 XL truly put the S8 and V30 to shame. At just 50% volume the 2 XL speakers were as loud as the V30 and S8 speakers were at full volume. And the overall sound from the 2 XL was much more "full". I suppose that's to be expected but I was surprised by just how big the difference is.

Admittedly, the front facing speakers truly have me back to considering the 2 XL, since I do spend a good amount of time consuming video/audio content on my phone, through the built-in speaker(s). However, I hate that I'd have to give up wireless charging and I still think the bezels on the 2 XL are ugly compared to the V30. Plus, in trying to picture 3 months down the road, when the initial "new toy" excitement wears off, I'm now considering whether or not I'd prefer to have the 2 XL's inevitably great dev community to fall back on to mess around with. Needless to say, the decision has grown more difficult for me....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] AndreaCristiano:
DAmn this is why I posted a thread on this. I didn’t see this one. The screen and overall feel of the V30 plus the dual camera makes me want the V30. The updates and speakers plus google goodies makes me want the pixel. I want a really beautiful screen and don’t want so feel like I have a tiny screen because of the pixel speakers. Man this is harder than I thought
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] sn0warmy:
I've made an interesting decision, for now. I went ahead and pre-ordered the 2 XL. In addition, I have JUMP! On-Demand with T-Mobile. I'm going to use that to trade my S8 in for the V30 when the local store near me gets their V30 stock this week (hopefully tomorrow). So I'll get up to 14 days to play with the V30 as a daily driver. This will either lead me to canceling my 2 XL order before it ships or turning the V30 in for one of their super cheap phones to have as a backup to the 2 XL.

....or maybe I'll just keep both and let this indecision linger for months to come. :laugh:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] AndreaCristiano:
Awesome let us know! My pixel 2XL is due here between the 27-31st now if it ships earlier that’s different. I do know I have a return policy with Google I can’t recall if it’s the carrier 15 day remorse or he 30 day ?!

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Oh and another plus for the V30 it’s 600mhrz compatible
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Yeah thats what I'm doing right now, got the v30 and love it besides the camera like i said, somethings wrong with it. Sending me a replacement and i get the new 15 days added on so it'll line me up to give them both a try for like 3-4 days together until the v30 would need to go back. The 27th cant come fast enough. Gonna go to the other 2 verizon stores in town tomorrow and see if I can get to play around with them since the one i went to today was "broke"
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] saxelfur:
I made a list of advantages of both phones over on the V30 forum, which has been updated an added to, since . Here goes:

Pro V30

Headphone jack and DAC (not sure I'll be able to appreciate the latter with $100-headphones and spotify, though)

Sleeker design (but it'll live in a case anyways)

Smaller bezels

Smaller and lighter

Probably a tad cheaper

AOD seems to be more useful, incl. controls

Qi wireless charging

Higher IP 68 rating (even WITH 3.5mm headphone jack)

dual cameras -- one with f/1.6 and one with a wide angle lens

Pro P2XL

Better overall camera (esp. if you don't use manual mode)

Better low light/high dynamic range pics

Pure Android, no bloatware

Faster updates, esp. monthly security updates

Purportedly better support than LG

No breakable, smudgy glass back

RGB led

front-facing stereo speakers (the one thing the LG V30 doesn't have)

I am leaning towards the P2XL. One reason is that I’m not a big content creator (definitely not going to dive into manual photo/video modes), the other is that while the V30 may be the overall better package today, the P2XL will get better for a long time, especially once Android P drops, which will probably take LG at least six months to implement.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] AndreaCristiano:
I’m in the same boat. I have decided to just wait on my Pixel2XL it’s def the better phone and def better for me
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] sn0warmy:
After a full 24 hours with my V30, I've already decided that when my 2 XL arrives, I'll be returning the V30 to T-Mobile.

The main draws for me toward the V30 were wireless charging and the smaller form factor/bezels. In addition, while I understand the headphone jack is becoming an outdated "feature", I do still prefer it for the sole purpose of quickly plugging some headphones in when a client calls me. This happens multiple times each day so I do find it convenient. Powering on and pairing a set of bluetooth headphones would likely lead to me missing calls from clients.

I truly wanted to love this V30, but so far it's been nothing but disappointment.

1) I'm already experiencing notable lag (as others in the V30 forum have pointed out) when opening the app drawer in Nova Launcher and scrolling through various apps like Instagram, Facebook, Chrome and even LG's own LG SmartWorld theme app. I've performed all the steps others recommended to fix it (i.e. enabling GPU rendering, and turning animation scaling to .5x). However, the lag/stuttering remains. Rebooting solves it for a couple of hours but then it comes right back.

2) Wifi connection with the V30 is considerably worse than it was on my Galaxy S8 and my previous Pixel XL. My office is in the very front of the house and the router is near the back of the house. Nonetheless, my S8 and Pixel XL were both able to acquire 3-4 signal bars and get 50mbps+ download speeds in the office. The V30 hovers between 0 and 2 bars and never achieves anything more than 5mbps. It's so bad that I'd be better off not using Wifi with the V30 in the front office.

3) 4G signal strength seems to have similar issues. At my gym my S8 and Pixel XL always had full 4G bars and great download speeds. My V30 hovers around 1-2 bars and Spotify songs are always pausing to buffer. This was never an issue with my previous two phones.

4) I've already found myself accidentally covering the bottom facing speaker while watching videos. Admittedly, this was an issue for me with the S8 and original Pixel XL, as well. This has me completely re-thinking those front facing speakers on the 2 XL. When I did my side by side comparison of the 2 XL and V30 in the Verizon store, the front facing speakers on the 2 XL blew me away with their performance, compared to the V30 and S8.

I'll have to live with the larger bezels and lack of wireless charging with the 2 XL. And I'll have to figure out a bluetooth headphone solution while in my office. But my immediate experience with the V30 has been bad enough that it's only made me more excited to get my hands on the 2 XL in the next couple of weeks.

EDIT: Add Feedly to the list of apps with obnoxious stuttering issues. Oh and the Google keyboard K

started randomly failing to recognize finger swipe gestures, forcing me to resort to tap-to-type.

There is something seriously wrong with this LG software. It's making me miss my S8, at this point. ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Gilley:
Ouch, sorry you had that bad of an experience with it... Only "downside" i've had with the v30 in the week i've been using it is my wifi disconnects all the time randomly and I have an Orbi Mesh wifi system at home so i'm never more than 15-20 ft from a router/satellite, and the Camera is meh on the backside. Its been buttery smooth for me for the week but I've been in the boat where people say the same thing I am saying and mine lagged like whoa. I am excited for the Pixel 2 XL though, I wish I had patience to hold out for the Panda one but I think i'll just order up a white bottom dbrand skin and toss that on and go reverse :)