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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Badger50:
Thank heavens! :good::good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xflowy:
manufacturing date?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Bwyan Benton:
Manufacturing date is October 28th

Shipped from factory October 30th.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] SkiaTheShade:
Yeah, this is the only real issue I'm having with the phone, and some black crush (dark areas in images at low brightness appear straight black), and it's EXTREMELY frustrating. Luckily my screen is fine in the blueshift department, and the uniformity isn't to bad. It's a little splotchy on dark gray screens as very, very low brightness, but otherwise it's fine. The black smear is horrible though... Good god.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Bwyan Benton:
Lol I tried
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] tiny1055:
I think I may have found a decent one. I actually order 2 at the same time to try to increase my odds. I received a black 64gb (manufactured Nov 2) and a panda 64gb (manufactured Nov 30). When I first opened them I was leaning towards the panda since the whites seemed whiter to me and the black one was definitely on the warmer side. This alone is odd as Google insists that their colors are so accurate but then they can't even get 2 devices to display the same whites. Anyway, I then quickly realized the panda one had much less tolerance for the blue shift. Only a few degrees and it was turning blue on part of the screen. The black one's screen was much better in this regard. It takes about 45 degrees before it starts turning blue and it is the whole screen not just part of it. This was much better to me, I think the panda one would drive me crazy. So I decided to keep using the black one but then noticed the screen was actually hurting my eyes because of the the insane saturated mode. It's like the whites are too bright compared to the rest of the image. I really dislike the natural and boosted modes so those are not an option. There really needs to be a color mode between saturated and boosted. I then installed Snoke kernel which supports kcal and was able to tweak the screen using Kernel Auditor. I turned down Saturation Intensity and tweaked the colors until the white balance was to my liking. I can now say the screen looks great. I do notice a few weird things like white balance changing a bit based on the brightness of the screen in adaptive brightness mode and black smearing on dark images but those are not a deal-breakers.

Some other notes: I did notice that saturated mode definitely improves the blue shift on the panda since it warms up the white balance a bit. It it way worse in natural or boosted mode. Saturated mode helps the black one a little but definitely not as much as the panda probably because it is naturally warmer. The natural and boosted modes don't look too bad in regard to the blue shift on that device. My guess would be that devices that have naturally warmer whites probably have less of the blue shift issue. I also installed a Skinomi screen protector on the black one and it doesn't seem to change the blue shift at all which is good since I am probably keeping that device.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] NateK:
It took 3 devices to find one with a good screen for my wife.

We pre-ordered one and with the slightest movement it would turn blue. Just looking at a white webpage was like a color kaleidoscope unless you held the device perfectly still.

We RMA'd that one and the replacement had a half pink, half blue screen. The blue shift was slightly better. Its build date was November 1 if I remember correctly. We ended up returning that one.

We waited a month to try again and just received the new phone yesterday with a November 27 build date. This one is a keeper. The screen is uniform and the blue shift starts at around 30 degrees instead of 1 like the first device.

Maybe Google is getting their QA in order or maybe we just got lucky. I'd guess more luck than anything.

For a $1000 phone it shouldn't be 1 in 3 good devices. The customer shouldn't need to do Google's QA process for them
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robn30:
Went back to my local Verizon store to check once more if they had updated their demo phones and they had! I can say that the update definitely improved the colors and saturated makes the display look much more like the Galaxy displays, but still a tick less quality. Furthermore this Verizon demo phone had terrible blue shift, and it's not uniform either. So the colors are now acceptable in my opinion but the blue shift, when it's bad, is just not workable. There are way too many apps that have a white background to accept a device like the one they had on display.

I am torn, because I would like to make a go at the device but for nearly $1,000 I expect more. I could go for the current Verizon $300 no trade discount that they are offering through the end of December but then I have a locked down device, and I haven't had one of those in years. Not sure I could take having a phone I can't have full control of. I wish Google would just allow app data backup like Apple and I wouldn't feel the need to root. On that topic, is there anyway to reliably backup your app data without root. I have heard of Helium, does it work well? If anyone has any info on this I am all ears.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] zetsumeikuro:
Honestly I think no matter what you do it seems this phone will not satisfy you . Unless you can accept a certain degree of blue shift (yes some are worse than other's and we know this) you'd be better off with a different phone. I used helium back in the day over a year ago and it worked fine, not sure how it is now. Good luck!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] robn30:
Helium isn't an option, more than two thirds of my apps aren't capable of being backed up with Helium. I tried it yesterday by hiding root access from it using Magisk. Seems with Android root is the only way to backup your app data and transfer it to your new device. Therefore the Verizon version is out of the question. If Google could just fix that issue and make device backup as simple as Apple, I wouldn't need to root any longer. It's the one pain of using Android and after all this time, it's a bit ridiculous that device backup is not possible. Android's pathetic system that backs up apps to your Google Drive, but only if they support API 23 or above, and only up to 25 MB is flat out lame.

So for $949 and the possibility of a garbage display, I'll pass and wait for the price to come down or just wait for the Pixel 3 and see if Google gets it right. This device isn't worth almost $1,000 out the door with the quality of the display they used. Of course I don't feel that any phone is worth that kind of money but for one that is near perfection, I could make an exception. Poor display is out of the question, no headphone jack and no wireless charging is less than perfect but workable. Oh well, I wanted to get onboard the Pixel train, but it seems I will have to wait and see what Google does with it's next release. Hopefully my Moto X Pure can hold out for one more year.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blinkin:
I might be able to buy a used 2 xl... Could you please take a look at the attached images and a whether this is a model that has less blue shift than what you've seen so far or whether it's worse?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] SamsonMcnulty:
That looks about like mine. Honestly, it doesn't make the phone any less awesome because how often do you really view it at an angle like that. I'm crossing my fingers that Google will be able to remedy some of these issues with software or a class-action lol.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] draiken78:
My first one was much worse than that so I sent it back. The replacement they sent me pretty much looks like that, so I would consider yours normal.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ghisy:
Since this thread has been quiet for a while, can we assume newer units of the P2XL have better screens? Has the lottery stopped?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
I think people have either decided to deal with it or returned the phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ghisy:
Eh, I was hoping Google got their s**t together. Still not available where I live and don't wanna risk importing if there hasn't been no improvement screen quality-wise.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
After 5 phones I got one with minimal blue shift and I'm fine with it! Hopefully they are all better!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
According to many users, units made starting December are far way better and have minimum blue **** and also different screen calibration.

So anyone thinking in getting the device, should aim for a unit made in December onwards, but be aware, because many stores and even Google are taking are giving discounts and gifts and they are sending old defective units from 2-3 months ago.

I waited until 29 December to order mine hopping I could get one of those new units, but they sent me a unit from mid Nov with annoying blue shift and they said they are not making any exchange for this. So be cautious if you see any promotions and discounts, because they are just trying to get rid of the old defective batches through this trickeries.

:crying:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blinkin:
you are right, blue sh*t is the right expression for that problem :D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
The november built ones i have had have also been fine, the ones in like Oct & before are straight junk though
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
Before December, is really random to get one nice unit. I didn't said there were no good units, but the possibility to get one is less. Starting December, the vast majority of units are good.

;)

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I think I missed an "f"; still is funny.

:laugh:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
Yeah late November is good from what I've seen. Panda is a lot better then black too
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] m0r0n3s:
You do know that you have 15 days to return the phone?, no questions asked for a full refund. No shipping costs or anything...

Just go to your orders, edit and look for the return option. Send it back and you'll get a credit on your card as soon as they receive the unit. Get a new one, rinse and repeat. NO need to deal with anyone on the phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] pixelsquish:
And your evidence they are doing this is what exactly?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
I have Panda from mid Nov and it sucks.

:(

Maybe I didn't mention in this thread, but I said that there's no Google Store in the region I am. Google doesn't deliver outside the countries in which they have store. Sending to another country is expensive, and then I need to pay again for the forwarding service in UK so they can deliver to me. Each time I want to do this, is ~€100 added to the total cost of the phone, plus I will be losing the whole idea to get the phone cheaper than usually it is.

If I return now, I will have to pay the shipping costs, plus buying the phone at full retail price, plus no getting Google Home Mini. Even with the costs of shipping, I saved around €200 with the promotion package; if I return now, I will be easily paying twice of that amount.

:eek:

My evidence is my eyes.

At the end of December, we were 3 the ones who bought from UK store with the discount and Google Home Mini. From those 3 phones, 2 were XL version. Both versions are from mid Nov, 17 and 18 to be exactly. Both suffer a lot from blue tint, and is really noticeable.

A guy in other thread in this forum just got a replacement with date Nov 17 and he says screen is really annoying with the blue tint. He asked a replacement because of the hardware problem, and the one they sent as replacement has different screen calibration and a lot of blue tint.

Why they are sending units from 2-3 months ago, when there is people buying at full retail price and getting the new units?; I remember reading in Reddit that people was buying the first days of December, and they were getting units manufactured in December, so that's why I pulled the trigger. But it seems that for replacements and promotions, they are sending the defective ones.

According to users, December units so far are good:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/7l2m8r/anyone_here_have_a_pixel_2_xl_with_a_december/

You can see a video here as well:

https://youtu.be/z92PiWbeDyg

From the video comments: "I had a 2 xl with a build date of Nov. 17th and the blue shift was so bad I could barely shift the screen off axis and I would immediately see blue shift . I then got another one this time through Google with a build date of December. 6th. And the display had some.blue shift but not much at all. Night and day difference ."

Pretty much, I have been reading for months and months in different sources, and I think that is pretty clear what Google is doing here, no need to be a genius.

Overall, is kind of sad, because Play Store availability is really limited, and if you want a decent unit, you would need to return 3-4 times, which not all can afford to do.

:rolleyes:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] pixelsquish:
Your evidence is pretty terrible. While it is distinctly possible that Google has either a)changed QC so that different units are making the cut or b)made a hardware revision or c)both - and I have no problem with that - your claim that they are conspiring to send 'bad' phones to certain customers vs 'good' phones to other customers is nothing but conjecture and foolishness. You have zero evidence for either claim really, besides pure conjecture and a very tiny small sample of anecdotal assumptions. If you tried to file a civil law suit about this the judge would laugh so hard he'd split a rib walking back to his chambers after dismissing your case.

You really should be more thorough before making such grandiose claims.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
So Mr. Lawyer, your evidence is...?, merely your opinion?.

You want a headline in Android Police?, or even better, maybe in the NYT I guess.

Is more than obvious that they have been doing refinements with the quality control and manufactured process, so why don't they do a recall and make available the new and good units for all?.

You need to become real dude, and I'm bringing you evidence of what I have been seeing so far, and you just come with your useless words.

If you want to debate my conjecture, my conspiracy theory or whatever you want to call it, come with arguments and proofs, otherwise don't make use lose time with your useless posts that don't contribute at all.

:highfive:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] qballe:
Does the phones manufactured on December have an higher HR revision ?

Looking at the youtube video above seems that only the batch produced on 12/6 is particularly lucky, am I wrong?

from youtube comments:

Someone from UK got one recently ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
Units from December are mostly good, but of course still there is the possibility that you can have a defective one.

Devices before December, are mostly defective, not only because of blue tint, but because all the other issues related to the screen.

I got a Panda last week from UK, but Google sent me a unit from mid Nov, and I can confirm that blue tint is really noticeable at the slightly change of angle.

The user [MENTION=3065293]kedge[/MENTION] got his unit 2 days ago from Carphone Warehouse; manufacture date is from December and he said blue tint is really diminished.

:cyclops:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] pixelsquish:
I said it was distinctly possible that Google had changed the manufacturing process to adjust for the blue tint on screens, whether through QA, perhaps the circular polarizer application, calibration, or something else. That's a normal business practice of reputable and well-run businesses. Even for that though your evidence is just anecdotal, but also a very very small size sample. But I have been hoping for this scenario as it makes the most sense.

Your theory that they are conspiring to offload 'bad' phones in certain channels is just that, a conspiracy theory - I don't need proof to debunk something that has no proof, except perhaps wearing a tinfoil hat. Words are powerful often times, something that seems to have gone over your head.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] qballe:
Guys... most likely who is offering the device at a discounted price bulk bought it, therefore has a stock of devices which is still shipping out. In a matter of months their deposit will be empty and they will order from google another stock (luckily manufactured after December) and start shiping "good" devices. That's easy :(

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Thanks!!!! I'll wait a bit more and I'll order from google, I don't like Carphone Warehouse :D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] atomsmasher80:
I had returned my preorder pixel 2 xl due to the horrible blue tint. I decided to wait until Google sorted everything out before I buy again. After hearing so many good things about recent screen panels, I decided to place my second order last week. The phone I received has a manuf. date of Dec. 23. Unfortunately it too has the blue tint issue. Not as bad as my first preorder unit but still very much a problem. It's going back. I'm done with this.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] qballe:
This is really frustrating, I think I'm going for a second hand pixel xl and wait for the pixel 3. No much difference with my actual Nexus 6p though. :(
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
What's not much different? The screen or the phone overall? I would think the camera alone and also battery would be much improved.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] qballe:
Camera probably yes, battery not sure as I'm getting a full day with the 6p easily. Galaxy S8 and oneplus 5T could be good alternatives but I can't stand the fingerprint on the first and the "low" resolution screen on the latter. They are both around 4XX £ in UK, that still half price compared to the pixel 2. Galaxy S9 could be the perfect phone but I can't wait April :crying:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
If you're getting a full day easily with a 2 year old 6P, you should be getting 36+ hours on the 2 XL then. And I've seen a bunch people who have on the battery life threads. I can get 24 hours off the charger pretty much every light day. When I go to bed I'm usually was 35% or more. That's typically 6:35am to 10:45pm.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] qballe:
I was comparing the 6P with the pixel xl (first gen), probably wasn't clear :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Oh! On re-reading it I see what you meant now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Finally somewhat positive media on the screen:

https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...6889854/pixel-2-xl-lg-display-oled-blue-shift

It's everything we've known being here on the forum threads but haven't seen anyone really updating people that there are better screens out there. Only problem is, "IT’S NOT A MATTER OF NEWER VERSUS OLDER PHONES, IT’S JUST A WIDE VARIANCE IN QUALITY"

Sorry for the all caps quote, didn't feel like retyping it all. ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
I completely disagree with this, because there's evidence around that proves that newer units (December onwards) suffer less from blue shift and other hardware problems. Quality indeed has improved in these months, so newer models are more prone to be defect-free while old units are still in the lottery.

Another thing is that there are also different levels of blue tint, so is hard to qualify if the unit each have is a decent one or not.

I haven't read complaints about newer units and seems that most people are happy with the screen now, as the author points out in the article.

:cyclops:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] pixelsquish:
No. That's not what the author says
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Galaxo60:
"My newer device is much easier on the eyes and makes me genuinely pleased to hold and play with it (in part because it also has the prettier panda colorway)."

;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] pixelsquish:
From the same article

"the 2 XL that I have with a good screen was built in October, whereas commenters in an XDA thread about the Pixel 2 XL’s screen woes still report buying*“distractingly blue” displays*made in December."
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] onishchuk4:
My 3rd(4th overall) RMA device will be here tomorrow. We shall see how it compares to the current one I have which was mfg'd on November 21st. This one made on the 21st probably has the least blue shift out of all the 3 that I've had so far, however display doesn't get as bright as the previous and it is a bit warmer too. The reason for the RMA is crap battery life and the display flashes upon unlock at random.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] AbootCanada:
January 9th manufacture date. No screen problems, little to no tint. Speakers and fingerprint sensor are great too. Finally after 5 RMAs
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rickysidhu_:
I think my manufacturing date is Nov 11 and there is barely any blue tint or any other screen issues.

Traded it on Craigslist, gave my Oneplus 5T for the 2 XL and examined the device completely before going through with the trade. Based on some of the pics I've seen with others and their blue tint, seems like I got really lucky!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] onishchuk4:
3rd RMA replacement, mfg date, October 18th. Opened it up out of curiosity. Looks identical to my Nov 21 build. Display is a tad bit warmer. Shift is pretty much the same. I honestly thought I would get a newer build date.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] xflowy:
when did u order and what storage size?