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[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Cephalus:
Though I'm not a crazy gamer, I do have a dig at Kingdom Rush and Defense Zone for extended plays when trying to kill time, and the Mate 10 barely gets luke-warm.

Compare this to my recently-retired LG G4 which got quite hot, or my worst (heat-wise) 'phone ever, the HTC One X (that thing felt like it was going to melt just by using Google Maps for a few minutes!).

Evidently when it comes to chipsets generating heat, Kirin is better than Qualcom is better than nVidia. Don't know where Mediatek slots into this as I've never played with one for long enough to tell.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] unbreakable1ali:
It gets warmer than my Previous mate 8
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] troublecro:
Same here. 40minutes of Shadow Fight 3 its luke warm. And runs crazy smooth with no noticeable throttling as some reviewers mentioned...cinsidering it's one of most demanding GPU games out there.

Sd821 in comparison is oven hot in same scenario.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] kanej2006:
I wouldn't say it gets very hot but playing an hour or two of Angry Birds 2, the device can get quite warm...
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] arianamirgholami:
Cpu doesn't get hot at all but gpu is a power hungry monster that heats a lot g72mp12 has great performance but only for 10 minutes after that in gets hot and you would get a slow gpu (something like snap 805)
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] eyeb:
Noticed the phone gets hot when I am using camera. Is this normal or have I not used camera enough before to notice? The flash is off too
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] RoshanX:
I agree with you 100% , I had LG G4 and also Samsung Galax S4, and both of them used to run Super hot compared to my Huawei Mate 10 lite. The moment i turn on LTE 4G phone would get hot! Making it the worst phone to ever have ( Oh LG G5 is famous for chipset failure ). I was amazed with the difference and was really surprised, as Huawei is supposedly a less inferior brand, compared to monstrous Samsung who's popularity is sky high.

I contemplate as to what could the reasons be, and finally concluded it's the Core-Chipset , Unforunately, Snapdragon, Mali, Qualcomm , all the chipsets from these manufacturers runs Hot, in whichever Phone they might be in, S5, S6, S8, S10. Searching online mostly all phones with these chipsets are famous for heating up like a desert.

Now i am never going back to Snapdragon!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Huawei Mate 10's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Shipoftheline:
Indoor Manchester Arndale today, Mate 10 Pro

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[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] k4fari:
Direct from Camera, Huawei Mate 10 Black
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Shipoftheline:
Testing night shots
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] amonrei:
Here's one.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] bkchris93:
Augsburg, Germany
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] lowphas:
I am not that pro at making (night) shots, but the mate 10 pro.

I am happy with the results.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] yap_rony:
still weak in low light condition

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in low light condition, my 2015 s7 edge is even better than my mate 10 pro
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Ramid15@gmail.com:
My mate 10 is better than my 2017 note 8

You are looking at the pics on the small screens. That's why more light for u looks better. Zoom in or transfer to computer and check the noise reduction and sharpness... Mate 10 is better
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] WaxysDargle:
lol it sounds like you are having issues. mate 10 cam is much better than s7 cam, objectively. s7 is nowhere close to mate 10.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] cornel.atomei:
I just started an youtube channel focused on camera test and reviews, and my first upload is a low light test between my 2 phones: Galaxy S9 and Mate 10 Pro. I will sell one of the phones to keep new ones comming for new reviews. So wich one would you choose? (daylight review comming soon)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6QlGoBpCzI&t=16s
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] botkiller00:
Good morning :o can someone post low light photos? İ want this phone and wonder how good or bad it is ty in advance
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] wizard6601:
after some edit

and second is original file
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Niggatron:
Were these on Pie or Oreo? Any editing?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Shipoftheline:
Err the Mate 20 Pro was released with Android 9 Pie & no editting
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Niggatron:
This is the Mate 10 forum, though?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Shipoftheline:
My bad, something to look forward to I suppose
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei Mate 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] jonmorris:
Here are my first batch of photos taken with the Mate 10 Pro.

https://jmcomms.com/2017/10/17/huawei-mate-10-pro-camera-images-part-1/
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] k4fari:
Superb work
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] zjhehe:
dayum, it really looks like a step up from the Mate 9. Just read the in-depth DxOMark review, any chance we can see some extreme low light shots that would require flash?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] jcik68:
Did some comparisons:

Huawei Mate 10 Pro vs. Mate 9 - https://touchit.sk/fototest-huawei-mate-10-pro-medzigeneracne-porovnanie-s-huawei-mate-9/139031

Mate 10 Pro vs. Galaxy Note8 vs. iPhone 8 Plus - https://touchit.sk/fototest-dualnyc...-samsung-galaxy-note8-vo-dne-aj-v-noci/138438

Sorry it is in Slovak language, but I hope you can get the point from pictures themselves
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] ekerbuddyeker:
This is great. Which do you think was better
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] ch1lko:
Here is another gallery with shots from BMW Welt and BMW Museum - https://photos.app.goo.gl/CClLDNmkeyXnf2a93
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] warea:
A Look at Huawei Mate 10's AI-Assisted Low Light Photography

https://fstoppers.com/originals/look-huawei-mate-10s-ai-assisted-low-light-photography-201821
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Grigorijs:
Huawei Mate 10 Pro vs Google Pixel 2 XL https://wylsa.com/google-pixel-2-xl-vs-mate-10/
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] mwatson:
Mate 10 wins on all pics!? Have I got them the wrong way round? Mate 10 on left?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Grigorijs:
Yes, you're right - Mate 10 Pro on the left side.

For me Mate 10 Pro is better on three photos, except the photo with "Danger"
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] mwatson:
Yeah I agree with that, You can see the texture of the sign board more on the pixel. Decision made, Gotta get the Mate 10 P, I just hope they keep up with the updates :fingers-crossed:
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Shipoftheline:
Well got it delivered today (10 Pro) so tested out the camera

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I was a little surprised to find the RGB camera isn't 12mb like advertised too, it's 11.8 :confused:
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] teohjo:
Comparison between P10+ & Mate10 at ISO1000. Mate10 noise reduction is too strong until lost of colors & some details has been smoothen. P10+ handle it much better & more natural. Hope Huawei will improve in this area.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Burt1972:
I am also dissapointed by mate 10 photo quality. In daylight its worse than my old galaxy s4!

Noise reduction is too strong, sharpening is just way too strong and contrast is too strong. Pictures look completely artificial.

JPG are almost useless on 4K good screen.

On the other side - raw files are great.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Austin K:
My Mate 10 arrived yesterday, sampled out the camera this morning. I'm so impressed with the entire Phone so far, but the camera is really something.

The forum has reduced the quality of these quite a bit.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Reuben_skelz92:
Is possible some of our camera are defective? I haven't been impressed at all with it. Especially in low light the pictures look a bit rubbish. The u11 and original pixel xl looked a lot better
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] SAO:
I agree. I've been comparing the Note 8 and M10 Pro... and when i send them to people to tell me what they think, most of them come back to me by telling me the N8 is much better. I am using the Zero camera mod on the N8, and it seems that it really makes the pictures better. Honestly i was expecting much better.

Did you try the M10 on "moving subjects"? like babies, dogs, cars... for me it just has a hard time focusing. Of course, this on auto mode... on pro, and when you take still pictures it looks really nice. I also realised that the color isn't very warm, tends to go on the blue cold then warm.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Reuben_skelz92:
I haven't really taken loads of pics outside mainly low light... But what I have taken is a bit washed out and haven't been impressed.

I think the hardware is as good as the other flagships and I heard you can get better pictures in pro mode. The software side obviously isn't doing a very good job and needs updating
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] eyeb:
the updated night mode (4 seconds one) seems to be a better HDR, if you want to wait 4 seconds that is

but the google camera port's HDR+ works for me and it "seems" to give better HDR results than default camera's hdr. I get better detail in the darker areas but the color is off to me, but since I can't see certain shades of color, I don't know how "off" I am. It's really mostly less vibrant for a color, a photo editor might be able to bring back the color but I don't do this either.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Flica77:
Huawei Mate 10 camera

Mato 10 has manual support across photo and video, from 30-second manual shutter speeds through to manual video at up to 4K resolution.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] :
Well the problem there is that I am not quite sure what exactly that new night mode is, I personally just think its just the same night mode but a bit better, but NOT AIS stabilized like the P20 Pro.

From all the people that claim to have gotten this new night shot mode and posted pics, their pics looks like ****, their normal auto pics even look better sometimes, and the "handheld" night shots look blurry and ****. So either they are lying and didn't get the new mode, or Huawei is lying to us by saying this is the same mode as the P20 Pro, which is also possible.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Newmuh:
Guys my mate 10 photos are much worse than mate 9 ones and even mi5 pictures r better.. Is it something software related or what or its just like that?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] mirakle:
There is definitly an issue with how the MATE 10 software modifies pictures.

I do often have the painting effect and the low-light shot are not on par with other flagships.

The thing is that, sometimes, I do get astounding shots, but i do notice a heavy load of treatment anyway.

I haven't experienced a lot on manual mode yet.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Newmuh:
Imnt into manual mode..thats depression inducer for me.

Imagine this mi5 with alpha miui captures portrait s with much more details than the mate 10!!!! In low light that is..

In day light its amazing for mate 10..

Have u tired lowering the resolution i got better results with 6m ..

With regular 8m its like a wet photo..if thats proper English

I just got an update I'll install it n see if theres a diff
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] eyeb:
Here's an example of mine, 4 pictures taken during the day and at night (same scene). It uses the new night mode, auto mode, hdr mode and the hdr+ from the google camera app port. They all looks good to me. I don't know what to judge to tell which one is "better".

But the night mode being AIS stablized, it seems like it to me because I tried using manual mode and the same 4 seconds for shutter speed, and it was really blurry so I didn't include it as sample image.

if someone could point out things between the photos to show why one would be "better" so I can learn what to look for next time, it would be much appreciated. Then I can start using the right mode for at least these two scenarios.

edit: trying to find free host for the original sized image, 53mb :( until then I included the smaller picture below
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] :
Imgur is free you just an account and you can keep the photos almost forever there and in high quality. Send me a pm or reply here when you do it so i can examine the photos.

Also please please when you upload the big image, try to post the exif data (ISO, shutter) for each of the pic so I can understand the modes more.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] microhaxo:
An easy way to test the nighmode update is to take a picture of a flower up close at night. The lack of AI stabilization would be easy to spot.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] eyeb:
I tried imgur, it got stuck at the end... I waited almost 3 hours for it to finish... I'll try again this weekend when I have time

uhm... exif data? how do I do that? in fact, what is exif data? I know the gps location is in the image somehow, no clue how to remove it so I didn't want to post the images directly to keep location off internet. I let the app decide the iso/shutter speed/etc so nothing was done in manual mode

edit: I figured this out I think, I took a screenshot of the phone after pressing the i button in the gallery app

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I'll try this too, do I do it when it is completely dark? As in by moon/star light only? Or can I have a porch light on? what about flash?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] microhaxo:
Night shot mode doesn't allow flash.

I would do it without any extra light helping out.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] :
Yes, night shot should be tested in lower light conditions than the street lamp shot you did here. If auto has enough light to shoot at ISO lower than 1600 then it's not low light enough. It has to be dark to show the night shot mode properly.

Also you can seriously just upload each pic individually on imgur and post the links to each image separately, it maybe gets stuck because you have one HUGE pic that's very large..
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] eyeb:
Ok, I got a dark photo of a flower, I had to do it inside but I turned off the lights, window let some in though. The ISO on the auto mode was less than 1600, but the night mode was at 3200 ISO.

I don't know if the AIS stabilization happened or not, it does look a bit blurry on the background as I look away from the center of the photo where I had the camera focused

here's the full photo of it and not the reduced size one I attached

https://i.imgur.com/jQpyXHY.jpg
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] microhaxo:
Thanks for taking the time to do this.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] wizard6601:
use night mode only when you have tripod.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] rasterize:
Yeah, the future of improving image quality on smartphones are definitely driven by good software! That's how the Pixel gets so good result with decent, but not outstanding hardware.

But it can be taken much further. Check out this work on enhancing night shots with AI: http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~cchen156/SID.html

Atm you need a beefy computer to run it (the code can be downloaded on the page) and a little python skills, but I don't see why it should not be implemented on phones in the near future. It is the training of the AI that requires the heavy hardware. After it is done I think it should be feasible to run on mobiles with dedicated APUs (like the Huaweis).

I wouldn't mind seeing this on my Mate 10 in a future update! :D
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] alan122:
Huawei Mate 10 Pro vs Google Pixel 2 XL

Which one do you think is better if we talk about camera?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] microhaxo:
point and shoot - Pixel 2 xl

If you like controlling the camera - mate 10 pro
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] microhaxo:
Here are some shots i just took in my backyard.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Grumpy Cat:
How much has camera and video improved since release? Thinking about getting this phone. Thanks.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] microhaxo:
Video is poor if not on tripod at 4k.

I think the camera is great. Sits in same line as galaxy s8, iphone 7 and exceeds them in specific scenarios.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
Full hd videos are poor as said. 4k is enough. The photo quality is inconsistent. I really dont know why this phone has second lens as monochrome because it does nothing, i think. It is said it is there because of much detail but cannot see detail at my photos.

Maybe i expect much more from reality from this phone or hyped but my lg g4 is better in much scenarios as much as i observed, of course.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] microhaxo:
Your memory must be off.

https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=8854&idPhone2=6901

The mate 10 is very detailed. Especially in lower light compared to the g4.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] uso:
People tend to compare the new phone with the old one's and say that they as good or better, but they completely forget the night performance, focus speed/accuracy, shoot speed and dynamic range.

Only focused in the 1% best photos and forget the consistency.

The mate 10 is overall mutch better
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
I cannot deny mate10(pro) is better. It is better in battery, performance, everything, but what i observe is in low light it cannot take such detailed photo. It can but painting effect is ao much, even in sun set where light is good it has that effect. '' AI close'' button should come quickly to this phone. I upload links to this thread and it is seen that it has almost no detail. Just observation :)
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] johnnyman25:
Mate 10 pro comparison between full auto mode and new night mode

Automatic

auto by John, on Flickr

auto by John, on Flickr

auto by John, on Flickr

auto by John, on Flickr

auto by John, on Flickr

Auto by John, on Flickr

Auto by John, on Flickr

Night mode

night mode by John, on Flickr

night mode by John, on Flickr

night mode by John, on Flickr

night mode by John, on Flickr

night mode by John, on Flickr

Night mode by John, on Flickr

Night mode by John, on Flickr
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Wurstwarenfachverkäuferin:
When you say "new night mode", you mean the one that is supposed to perform like the p20pro's and come with the 145 update (asking, because your signature says 142)? Didn't check all the pictures in detail, but at a first look they look better than what mine did when it was delivered (fw 137, I think). The leafs still look like a camo print, don't they?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] johnnyman25:
Yes yes with latest 145 firmware. The leafs are not so good because the weather was windy and they were moving like hell. Haha :)

Edit:From my afternoon walk

IMG_20180715_193935 by John, on Flickr

IMG_20180715_193620 by John, on Flickr

IMG_20180715_201059 by John, on Flickr

Mate the 10 pro be with you
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Makonator:
So should I go for the note 8 or this one?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] csoonp:
I find the quality quite good sometimes
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] davide445:
The latest update produce in my opinion stunning results in night photos, much better than the previous release.

Night in the Alps https://imgur.com/gallery/ikCdqi7
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] phonistic02:
My phone is still 142(c432) and no OTA yet. Wish it will come soon and fix night mod.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Wurstwarenfachverkäuferin:
Which update do you refer to? Everything that has leafs on it still looks meh, no?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Jiiro:
That's actually really cool.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] davide445:
Build 145

For me it's a wonderful result, but I'm not a pro photographer, before having this phone I almost didn't use the smartphone cameras at all.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Wurstwarenfachverkäuferin:
Just in case -- I didn't mean to offend you. Only wanted to point out, that what was seen as an issue with this camera software in the beginning (oil painting effect, especially on certain smallish structures, due to aggressive image processing) still seems to be there, to some degree at least. Some of johnymann25's and you pictures -- that's kind of two data points.

I would like to take some myself, but I'm stuck on 142 (most likely 137 still, if I was relying on huawei's update batch rollout schedule).
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] cle_m_ent:
I'm coming from a Galaxy S7 and I find the photo fast worst as my S7... Blurry, with noise, the AI made everything darker, no detail, bad portrait and automatique modes... I don't understand where is the improvement... With firmware 145m
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] davide445:
No offense - everyone does have his point of view and background.

Maybe I needed to clarify from the beginning, I was reading about the improvement in the night shot with the 145 build and here is focused my comment, before I was extremelly disappointed from the low light results, now appear to me extremely godibile, for a casual user that want a nice memory with no effort.

I didn't need to set anything to achieve this photo in almost complete darkness, for me a really good result.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] mmuntean2:
Nope. I had the same problem on mine. Every photo I took of a person, no matter if it was on Auto, Manual, Portrait or not, it came washed out, with huge processing and a bad, bad oil paint effect. This was the reason I sold it. I was having the same image processing and oil paint issues on the iphone, and honestly did not expect this to happen on Huawei. I will never buy another Huawei phone until they fix this simply mediocre image processing technique.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Scalpos:
Simply clean smartphone's lens from time to time/before you shoot, or just stop taking pictures of people through windows, you stalker ! :cool:

Just kidding :D

I don't see such issue with Mate 10 Pro. My previous smartphones were Sony Xperia Z1C & Z5C... Photo quality was ridiculously overrated, IMHO. My partner's iPhone 6s was muuuuch better. No more costly high end Sony compact smartphones for me. Now I have a shiny brick in my pocket, but battery life and photos are OK, especially considering I paid it 260€.
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] Cristianm4691:
Did you use any kind of support or tripod to take "night mode"? Its awesome :eek: I know that p20 pro take it without tripod, but dont know if Mate 10/10Pro can do it too.

Im going to buy Mate 10 (no pro). Is it going to get this night mode (without tripod, like p20 pro)?
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] johnnyman25:
No use of tripod with new night mode. It's like p20 pro. Don't know about the normal mate 10!!

Mate the 10 pro be with you
[Huawei Mate 10  Real Life Review] AlvinUT2001:
OTA Update

Hi All,

I got the OTA update last night: BLA-09 8.0.0.119(C567) that adds support for Night shot update. However, when I'm in the camera app and change to Night Mode, none of the camera app soft buttons respond and it won't take a picture. Therefore, the only option I have is to hit the soft back button to go back to the normal camera mode. Does anyone else have this problem? Thanks in advance.