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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] zetsumeikuro:
Dang that sucks. Besides the software update that they will push dimming the keys after inactivity and lowering the brightness and coloring the navbar I don't think Google can do much else. Unless they overhaul and use gestures vs software keys. Even if they were to change panels (which I doubt will happen) their response is burn in pretty much won't be noticeable unless you go looking for it.

I've used Google Maps for about 1hr and it came out okay in the end. I'd personally still rather use immersive mode for those scenarios.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
Unfortunately I think it's just a screen panel thing low quality screen panel from LG. Everybody's going to have their own opinion but I think it needs to be recalled the screen burn-in is not going to be able to be fixed through any software I can deal with everything else the colors look fine to me I don't even mind the blue hue. The deal-breaker for me was finding out that they're going to be lowering the overall brightness by 50 nits.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] shinasurada:
This picture was just to show that the panels had different color temp and brightness. Blue hue is similar. Burn in needs to. Be shown in grey screen. I did not take pictures of it but I swear to god the store display didn't have burn in. I wonder if it's because the store display plays a full screen video all the time whereas, I have the black navigation bar open more often in my phone. But then again I only had less than an hour of play time with the phone... Unless it degrades exponentially , burn in shouldn't show. I doubt it's image retention as it's still there after I leave it overnight.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Redrockzz:
Lol. Samsung is making fun about Googles Screengate now:

https://youtu.be/eLz5gFzdU3E
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jtwlbz:
Google says blue shifting is normal at sharp angle. Well the issue is shifting in a slight angle...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] BrokenWall:
So I got my phone last night and what I though was blue tint, really isn't too bad in comparison to what I have seen. It is noticable but faint, and I noticed I look at my phone off-axis a bit more than I expected. I figured I would let it go and would adapt, and to be honest after a few hours I started looking past it.

I started using it at work today and noticed a small band across the middle of the screen. I checked multiple places to make sure it wasn't something coming through transparency, and nope it happens everywhere. It is stronger on the right side of the screen than the left.

Talking with Google Now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pappy35:
Blue shifting I can deal with but that an obvious defect. I'd RMA it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mrhumble1:
Ok peeps. I got a Pixel 2 XL in my hands, and it's not worth $900.

My coworker got his in and brought it to work. I checked it out and it's as I suspected. The blue tint at off angles (even slightly off) is unacceptable to me. Viewing the screen straight on looks fine, but any shift and the blue comes out. Some might be ok with this, but I'm not. If the phone was $600, I would accept this. For $900, no way.

He had not tested any of the other things (black background uniformity, grey uniformity, image burn-in, etc) but none of that matters as much as what the thing looks like during normal use.

I am kinda bummed. Google has made it clear that this is what we're getting. The blue shift is normal and they think it's fine. Well, they're not getting my money. I will wait and see what HTC is announcing at their November 2nd event.

I hope you all have the best of luck with this phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] perveeus:
Yeah I am not a TV calibration snob but I do participate in the AVSforum from time to time over the years & being a plasma owner, the image retention/burn-in/vibrant colors issues is something I am acutely aware of.

So I am sure I won't get along with the sRGB haterz.

That said, true colors are true colors - there is no denying that.

However, even in this Authoritarian age - we should still have choice to turn things up or down noticeably.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bugzy:
My Pixel XL (first gen) seems to have a blue shift tint also. I need to compare it with the Pixel 2 XL to see if the angles are much different. Doesn't bother me on my Pixel XL. *hmm*
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] ProAm500:
I'm surprised at the number of people that state hey never look at their phone at an angle. I'm starting to think that its about 60/40 on a given day viewing my phone "straight on" vs. looking at it at some type of angle.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] perveeus:
If you are spending M$RP on any phone - then you obviously love the company &/or you're independently wealthy.

Most of us are getting some sort of subsidy & can roll with the punches.

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Can you circle what you are referring to? I don't see anything.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Wbroshea:
I have found that I actually always look at it with an angle. I rest the bottom of the phone on my pinky finger and rest the back of the phone on my other three fingers so that my thumb is free to hit most of the screen. I had never though about it but without actually gripping the phone it has to rest at an angle in my hands so that it doesn't fall forwards. Unfortunately for me, my natural holding position makes the top half of the screen blue and the bottom half white. Also every time I move my thumb the blue shift moves around on the phone since the phone moves slightly. So for me it really bothers me and I will return it. I am sad though because everything else is great with the phone, I even like the colors and the rest of the screen. Of course if I could just hold the phone right all would be ok. :)

I will say this, I have a functioning phone right now and am going to watch and see if the blue shift is rectified in latter shipments. If it is I will be purchasing one again.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Bwyan Benton:
Ugh! I was so excited and just waiting for this phone. I've had all the Nexus phones and the Pixel XL. The blue shift I knew I could have dealt with after seeing it in person. It's all the other multiple issues with the screen and speakers that have made me entirely abort. For me in Canada this would cost me $1300.. And there is no way I'm spending my money on that device now. Not even a consideration. Currently using a galaxy s8+ and know I would regret giving this up for that Pixel 2xl. They really need to fix that hardware. I'll probably just grab a note 8 now instead. Or just keep this phone until next year. I'm completely out. Google screwed up.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mistermojorizin:
I'm looking for a little perspective on this from 2 xl owners. Google said today they will extend warranty up to 2 yrs, provide a saturated color mode, reduce chance of burn in, and lower brightness (this may be how they're going to reduce burn in, but google's screens are known for not being as bright as the Samsung screens, even when google used the same panel on the pixel 1 xl, low brightness was a weak spot).

So does this take care of it? The color shift, the uniformity problems (my biggest concern), and the black crush?

Why doesn't Google just lower the price to around $500 so that these sorts of defects are acceptable? Nothing they're offering helps with any of the real issues with the screen (RMA'ing a unit that has problems with color uniformity can be such a hassle since the replacement will probably have the same problem if not others).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pappy35:
Google's announcement regarding the warranty extension was enough for me to reorder.

Regarding the blue-shift: All the demo devices in our area have it but to a fairly minor degree. A lot of the videos folks are posting however show a degree of blue-shift I could not accept.

We'll see what happens with the device I actually get. If it's minor I'm good. If it's not I'll return it, buy another one, and if that one's no good then I'm out completely until they actually do something.

I was not happy with the "it's normal for this type of screen" comment. First, it's bull and second, it' means they will not be doing anything to fix it as they are essentially denying there's anything wrong which there obviously it. As there seems to be a lot variability I am willing to try one or two and see what happens but beyond that I'll have to try to find something 'cause my 6P is really starting to flake out big-time.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] davidstjohn1:
While we're finding out one thing after another this is crazy how bad this panel really is.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] skip24ftlb:
Does the pixel not come with 2 year warranty in USA as standard ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] quickstang:
Spending MSRP vs a subsidy has nothing to do with it. It's still a $900 phone that's obviously not made like one.

Independently wealthy no, but smart about not being tied to a carrier for 2yrs & still not pay full price. Subsidy or not, I'm not rolling with anything. I don't have the mentality of... Well, I only paid $300 for a $900 phone, so it's ok if it's crappy. There's absolutely no logic in that.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] whyme45125:
FWIW; I spoke with a verizon rep this morning and was told there's an issue with pixel 2 xl screens, shipping may be delayed in some cases, and that we have 4 RMAs with the same device until the 5th is a different "comparable in price" device such as Note 8 or iphone x or 256GB iphone8+ and IF that were to be the case call in and let them know which device you'd prefer. BTW the rep I spoke to did mention "the customer has the right to take legal action if these issues persist for a pro longed length of time", meaning google needs to get their **** together, she referred to last year's recall of Note 7s and says "It's possible they may eventually end up in recall so they don't face legal action." Time will tell. I'm still going to receive mine, supposed to ship NOV. 1st
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rknee:
Just got mine today. Early October manufacture date.

Initial look:

-Blue tint noticeable at slight angle. Not sure if that will actually be an issue.. It's not.

-Some image retention at the bottom. But I can watch it disappear.

However the border line definitely takes longer to clear.

I could be crazy but I swear the retention seems like it is resolving faster as I use the phone more.

-I am noticing that the background is more white than my pixel 1. The pixel 1 has a warmer (slightly orange) background on this webpage.

-Vivid mode doesn't appear to do anything.

-No dead pixels, no banding, no bleeding

Update: video playback on YouTube high res videos are amazing.

Colors are vibrant, saturated, and detail is amazing in comparison to my Pixel 1.

Update 2: Tried it with Daydream (2016). It appears to struggle with backgrounds close to white and dark objects in the foreground that are moving quickly. The retention/screen lag/the speed in which the pixels change color seems to struggle after prolonged use, so you get some warping/zooming. I'll try again with the force gpu but not sure if it'll do anything.

Decision: This display is definitely capable of showing pictures and video with the vibrant saturation people like. The washed out colors argument is not valid in my opinion, seems fairly similar to sRGB from Pixel1 setting. The blue tint is noticeable with white backgrounds. And even then it's not really that much of a distraction. I'm not sure what the grainy argument is about. I've been retyping this on the dimmest setting. And the burn in complaint.. I've only had this phone for a day but with heavy use and not seeing any. My pixel 1 has burn in after a years worth so I'll just keep an eye on this one and warranty if necessary. It's a keeper to me, now if I could only contribute to help get root.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pappy35:
No. One year warranty is what they provide. The wording of the release was interesting and implied to me that the blue-shift was normal and hence not something they would return the phone for.

Note: this is my speculation only and base only on pondering why they would enhance the warranty AND say the blue shift was normal.

I rolled the dice. Now I have to wait and see if I'm lucky.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] skip24ftlb:
So different regions get different lengths of warranty as standard.... Hmmm.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] perveeus:
No -the market obviously is not paying $900 for it.

You can see how people are paying in some case $0 to get this phone.

Subsidy - means 0% installment plan with payoff possible anytime before end of EIP.

So people are buying it outright but net/net it's not @ MSRP.

Just because the MSRP is $900, doesn't mean reality for many.

So if you have it in your head that you 'were' going to spend $900 - then that's on you.

Smart money is never paying retail OOP.

Price inflation doesn't make you smarter.

Analogy is don't go around telling everyone the 'Benz is worth $XXXXXXXXX knowing full well you actually bought it for less @ the Carmax. Esp. when no1 is actually going to pay $XXXXXXXXX for it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pappy35:
Point to a case where someone bought it for $0.

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I have no idea about that. Google announced a one year warranty extension. I have no idea if this means it's applicable globally or regionally (I presume by 'regions' you mean countries).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] virani_joush:
Played with Pixel XL 2 at a store near me for about 15 mins. Man that display is so dull. And that blue tint is visible even when I approached towards the device. Little bit of tilt and you will definitely see the blue hue. And whites were not white at all. First of all I though there must be night mode on or some kind of filter is on. Then I checked all display settings and only vivid colours was on. I checked with Vivid colours on and off, still the results were same. I was planning to pre order today. Better I waited and played with the device before hand. And really a message to Google 'this is not good Google, not at all, and sorry but display is the most basic feature that you have to do it right. If u screw at display then u screw up everything. Come on, how people gonna look that beautiful pictures taken with that awesome camera. Google should recall every unit and change the display completely, may be change the display supplier. I am not giving my 73k INR to that phone until they comes with some solid fix for that crappy display OR i will have to wait for some other device, sadly.:(
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blcklab:
This is just based on my pixel not the pixel 2 XL but I have it in RGB mode running the 8.1 beta.

I find that by going into color correction settings, intended for those who are color-blind, that the colors really pop and become saturated again by enabling it for red green color blindness
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] quickstang:
So Google designed a phone worth $0?

Your really not making a case for yourself or Google. It doesn't matter what someone "bought the phone for" It's still supposed to be a flagship device right?

I go & buy it, get tmo to toss in $325 & say sell my 6P for $125. Just because I get $450 back, doesn't mean it should be made like a $450 phone. And yes, I do buy my phones outright.

Again, no logic in your Benz analogy either. Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Lexus, whatever should be premium cars. I don't care if you win one on Wheel of Fortune. It should still perform like getting it from the dealer right? Because after all it came from the dealer.

I'm not sure where you're going with this, that the phone should be crap because you aren't paying retail for it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Krusej23:
I've heard multiple people on here say that the Verizon demo Pixel 2s were broken in some way; wouldn't charge, wouldn't turn on, screen dim. I would say this is more of a Verizon store not setting things up correctly and not caring to fix it unless people start to ask about it. From my experience with Verizon stores, they don't know much about phones outside of the obvious for iPhones and Samsung S phones. You'll get the occasional salesperson that that will be a tech nerd like us but not very often at all.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] keijikage:
I took a peek at the power_profile.xml for the 2XL - it uses a tremendous amount of power at full brightness. My guess is that the demo unit charger/alarms can't keep up with the power drain.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cryppie:
I would say it's the demo app.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] AndrasLOHF:
For real. I can only hope threads like this make people cancel orders. End of November is a loooooong time to wait.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] georgiapi:
I am a Google Phone Fan Boy of sorts for a long time now but I just didn't like the phone. The speakers sounded Anemic.

I had my Nexus 5 with me and compared every aspect and walked away glad I went to see it.

I respect you guys, don't get me wrong, but feel something is amiss and if I'm wrong so be it and all the better. But what I seen for near $900.00 ran me off?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bartolo5:
I've seen others mentioning screen has a 'circular polarizer' so it works with sun glasses at the expense of viewing angles. Whatever, most people look at screens without sunglasses. I went to see the Pixel 2 XL again and viewing is seriously compromised on anything but straight up. Very strong blueish hue and desaturated colors once you deviate even just a bit from perfect perpendicular to the screen. Looking straight down is alright although not thrilling in neither 'vivid' or normal mode. Don't get me wrong, sharpness is great, but color is all over the place depending how you hold the device. Sure, phone flies on everything, but the very important screen is such a letdown ....

You'll need a carpenter's square on this one to avoid any weird blue hues

Pretty much my sentiment. I could sort of put up with this screen if device was a <$500 device, but something approaching $1K, there's just no way.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
I went into a Verizon store yesterday. The Pixel 2 XL I looked at didn't look anything like that at first. I looked around the settings a bit and found something called "Color Correction" in accessibility settings. When I turned it on I got what you see in your pictures. When I turned it off I got normal color back. I was able to reproduce the same look on my current Nexus 5X.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mhsbrian:
Just another echo chamber, I've had hands on with the Pixel 2 XL as well and was able to play with it outside of demo mode. It's definitely not a bad phone and the color accuracy on the display will please a lot of people who actually want to see reality on their phone instead of a wide color gamut not of reality. I compared the displays of my s8+ in cinema mode (p3 to match on screens) and I could almost not tell a difference. The worst part is that I am even seeing people saying the non XL screen is better and that is just soooo laughable when it doesn't even come close.

Excessive color saturation is literally the worst trend that has hit phones especially people that say MUH CAMERA NEEDS TO BE GOOD then say MUH COLORS AREN'T VIBRANT.

Give me a break.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] zathus:
Everybody's different. What we see and how we see it. I was sitting next to a guy with a S8 Plus (I returned mine 2 weeks after launch) at a poker table and I could clearly see pink hue. I asked, that doesn't bother you? That pink hue? He said, what pink hue?... I saw it clear as day but to him it didnt exist.

iPhone displays tend to be washed out. Sammy goes the exact opposite direction. Super oversaturated. That's the top two phones with complete opposite approaches in Colour accuracy. I lean towards the iPhone style. So to me the pixel 2 display is what I prefer. The display model I looked at had what I would consider a beautiful display. Don't agree? That's ok, other options exist
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] billykxda:
I have a Pixel 2 XL on pre-order and am super interested in the quality of the display. It's interesting to me that the early reviewers (at least the one's that I read) didn't talk about the "blue tint" issue. Doesn't mean it's not real, of course. Now there's plenty of talk about it on forums.

The reviews will come in tomorrow. I'd like to keep my order in place, but if there's significant evidence display issues, I am out. My OG XL has a beautiful display, and as many here have mentioned, I don't want to pay a premium to go backwards.

Here's hoping that the display is as good some say it is!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] eep2378:
Sincerely hope that they are NOT using the same P-OLED as the V30 [emoji44]. Not looking good if so.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th....com/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] RED ZMAN:
I think some of you guys are pretty crazy to be honest. I stopped by Verizon store yesterday in Albuquerque and played around with the pixel 2 and a pixel 2 XL. The screens look fantastic.

Exiting demo mode and going in screwing around with stuff to include YouTube and settings menus and wallpapers, everything looked fantastic and was crisp and clean. I also have never suffered from any of the paranoid issues that I heard of on the other devices I've owned that people say they're on.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mdonnelly1127:
I have played with the phone outside of Demo mode for a very long time. The screen is nice, very gorgeous display, just not as "bright" as some other displays (S8+, V30) , speakers are awesome unbeatable sound quality. The phone is not the "sexiest" looking phone around but it's the fastest Android device I've ever used in my life. I myself played with a phone in (demo) mode and was extremely turned off by it at first but after playing with the one without any demo content I did start to really enjoy the device. Honestly wait to get yours in hand, you have 15 days to return if you hate it, not the end of the world.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] jasbur17:
Kinda sucks. If I didn't like the 2XL the V30 was my second choice. Fingers crossed.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mdonnelly1127:
The v30 has a gorgeous display, I'd say better than Samsung at this point, it is definitely over saturated like Samsung Displays but a lot nicer. The V30 display is a lot brighter than the XL 2 as well, but either phones display is really really nice
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] amaddux:
I can't remember which one of the many youtube reviews I watched said it, but they did turn the brightness down, and did see the banding (thought i couldn't see it in the video), but they said it wasn't as bad as the LGs, but it was there on the lowest setting. It might have been the Verge or Android Authority.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] smallsmx301:
I don't think people that are complaining about the display have really messed around with settings. Just on the current pixel phones turning off auto brightness gave a different viewing experience. Having it off makes the colors more vibrant and brightens the screen somewhat. This has been the case with every AMOLED Nexus going back using 5.0+. So 2 devices. I'm sure the panel will be just fine.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] turbo23:
Messing around with settings will not remove banding or foggy appearance at very low brightness settings. For $850+ there should not be any messing around with settings required.