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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Tough assignment and often asked question

Let's sort out focus so he's always in focus. In manual slide focus to infinity, right to the top. Keep 2m away. Click. Try a little further away. The idea here is everything beyond 2m will always be in focus. There is no wait, to focus if you keep your distance he will always be in focus

Next is to try and freeze his movement with shutter speed. Try a shutter of 1/120 or 1/60. Then adjust iso. You're going to get grain but in 2017, cameras produce usable shots as high as ISO 1600

Try 1/30 if you want to improve image quality but there will be blur. 1/120 or 60 don't need ois so shake from your side is removed.

What would be useful is if the flash could stay on because this would help a bit indoors. For that you will have to use open camera. Stock is just flash. Problem with led flashes is they don't fire as fast as xenon. Its the flash fire speed that does the freezing.

If the photo comes out underexposed, its not a problem, you can always brighten it up later with lightroom or google photos. This way you can get away with lower ISO's and still use a fast shutter speed. jpegs can be brightened up to two stops. Raw maybe 3

With practice you will know how far underexposed you can get away with
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
Thanks. I appreciate it. My shutter speed was faster than 1/30 and iso decent. I don't mind grain. I invite it, actually. Not into flashes, unless I can bounce it off a wall.

It could very well be a focus issue. I need to look into AF.

I really shouldn't have to be 2m away from him to get a good shot. That's just silly far as a minimum. I'm only looking for him to be in focus, not the entire background.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
You can always crop. Besides, at that distance he'll look better too.

The reason for the distance is to eliminate focus problems. The lens has to work for subjects from a few inches to two metres. If the subject moves then the lens needs to keep up. Tap to focus will do that but what if your subject moves again. If he doesn't you can catch him closer and then its a matter of a fast enough shutter speed

This isn't an easy assignment even with a dedicated camera :)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
If my son's walking or crawling, it's not easy. If he's sitting 1.5ft away from me on the couch or at the dinner table it should be easy. I should be able to isolate him and get a bit of bokeh. Lacking that, I just want his face to be decently sharp in the picture. He has curly hair. On my Nexus 6P I could see hair and eyebrow details

The minimum focus distance should not be 2m, at least in my opinion. That just makes the camera way too limited.

Effectively, with a fixed aperture, I'm shooting in shutter priority mode. Set my ISO for the general atmosphere and then play with a moving subject.

I did it last night at ISO 1600.

I'm no pixel creeper, because I'm not printing these photos, but the images are just soft.

Also, man does the camera drain the battery.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
What was your shutter speed ?

Is this with focus at infinity ? or tap to focus

Has the 2m away idea resulted in sharper images than you got before.

Focus peaking is another possibility but if your subject moves all the time it won't be practical
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
I still think the images are soft, unfortunately. How do I change the focus to infinity??? I don't love that idea, but still try it. I wanted to use the aperture to change depth of field, but that's not possible.

Tried Open Cam. That's a no go.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Manual settings, go to AF, you see the dial at the right, push it up till it goes no further. Then do some tests to figure out where that 2m is. If you get closer it will be soft.

With open camera , you just press a button that says oo and it goes there automatically.

Before you do that. Just try to shoot with manual settings. Don;t touch anything, just tap to focus and click. You're in manual but shooting in full auto

Any difference in sharpness between shooting like this vs auto you've been doing earlier

Since you've not posted any samples i've no clue what the problem is. it could one or two issues or a combo of them
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
I'll have a look. I've been shooting manual. Not auto.

Not sure I want to post pics of my kid. I'll think about it.

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So, you think I should be shooting in manual focus? If that's the case then the phone isn't worth the trouble. It's one thing to manually focus on an ILC or SLR, but on a phone that's just seems so obtuse
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Then there is no night shot processing occurring. Good that's one less variable

If the problem is focus ? you elliminate it

If its motion blur then a faster shutter is required

Either of these two can manifest either alone or together to make a softer picture

This applies with any camera btw. i've seen numerous phots with the OG pixel where it confused close and far focus with landscapes in low light. Indoors as far as i'm concerned is low light

And you said the 6P got you more reliable photos ? i wonder how the hdr+ handled movment
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
The 6P was warmer ootb, but no big deal. The 6p was only more reliable in terms of the snaps I'm used to taking of my kid. Not for anything else.

I like the manual controls for stills on the v30, but the softness in my pics of my kid isn't good.

It's not a shutter speed issue or ISO issue. As a I said above, both have been more than adequate. I end up shooting in shutter priority mode.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Which leaves focus :)

2m or wherever infinty focus starts makes it easier because you could be a little further or more and focus will be there

To take from closer means you dial up focus say half or two thirds. The problem now is if you're half a foot off either closer or further focus will be off. Much harder.

Why is taking portraits from six feet away a problem ? I would say that's an ideal distance to take portraits.

Compare faces taken from that distance to closer. I think the ones further away will look better
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
Just more because he's 16 month's old and so hard to be away. Here's a couple from just now, straight out of camera.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
I'm still confused about the AF points vs focus tracking and what's better.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
The second is sharper than the first.

Why is that

The first looks high iso to me. Can't say more

whats iso & shutter speeds ?

If he's in a high chair then focus should not be a problem.

Thought you were trying to keep up with him :D
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
I'm going to keep playing with it. He still moves in his high chair a lot! Here's a couple of me chasing him around. Straight ooc.

I think the LG camera defaults to low a shutter speed.

Any thoughts on using the subject tracking vs 8 points of AF feature?

Do you find the camera drains battery a ton?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Tracking is supposed to lock focus on a moving subject. Your use case. But how good is it indoors ?

8 points i don't find too reliable for focus indoors. If all eight points don't light up then its not complete. I find it hard to tell when they are lit up.

Tap to focus is easier. Tap on his eyes and wait to get a green square. When it appears, click. Not before. You have little over a second before the green box goes. Then you have to tap again and wait. When he is seated this will work.

Out of the four you posted i find the second and third acceptable. The first & fourth are soft

Turn off tracking focus and just try tap and click when he isn't moving too much

Any difference ? Is this way consistent. The photos by the fridge could also work this way too

When he's moving you will have to try the infinty focus.

Or try out burst mode, the resolution is a little less but it might be sharper. Very easy. Just point and keep your finger on the button while it fires away

If your screen brightness is on max. I have mt brightness down indoors, this is why i cant see those 8 dots but the green square i can see in the dark
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
Burst mode is a great idea. Forgot about that. I wish we could do EV bracketing.

Thanks for the other tips. I really do want to like this phone!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Open camera can do this.

To blend look up an app called vibrance HDR, written by the same guy who wrote open camera
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
Have you used these came on the v30?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
I have a v20 and open camera works even with the wide angle.

Pixel camera does not
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
Are using open camera in auto mode? Is there a manual mode? Seems worse than the the LG app.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Open camera is for bracketing only, i don't think it will match the LG app otherwise.

Though it has some useful features. Setting focus to infinty is just a click in the settings. Have a play
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
The truth is that the 6P was better in auto for non-still in lower light types of shots with subject slightly moving. Period. V30 auto wants to do slow shutter and low ISO. I'd rather just have a functioning pic!

But, the V30 for stills is REALLY good and has potential. So, I might just have to break out my ILC more and that's that.

See attached. The bad are auto. Woof.

These are just snaps.

Still playing, but liking this camera more. I'm seeing it's potential.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Can you put the photos so far attached on google photos and link them here. Need to see the image data
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] CHH2:
Looks like you got some help. Yeah, as far as I can tell from what is posted, it looks like you're just not getting a fast enough shutter speed with a slight possibility of the focus locking onto the wrong thing. (Although, I will lean towards the shutter speed more.) At the size posted, it looks like some parts are looking in focus and detailed. Always a key indicator, look around the rest of the frame and see if there are details that are there and what depth range is in focus.

Part of the problem is that what we perceive to be good or decent light isn't necessarily the case for cameras. I can stand in the lobby of the museum I used to work in and think the light is really bright only to start dialing in settings in my camera to find out it isn't even close to decent light. (It would look like daylight but the camera would be ISO 800-1600 and just enough shutter speed to clear handheld but not enough to freeze motion. Which worked out in my favor for a photo I took.) Indoors is rarely that good of light unless you have daylight streaming in through clear windows or strong daylight through opaque windows.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
Here you go: https://photos.app.goo.gl/cQS50Opu5dzFvnN73

I think for the most part it is a shutter speed issue, but still some where it's 1/160 or 1/250 are soft. In some I had infinity focus.

I really don't like any MF unless I have a viewfinder to my eye. Can't deal with it otherwise.

The auto mode seems to default to 1/17 shutter.

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Also need to catch-up on my snapseed skills. Does it have curves?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
ok, this is better when we can see the data. The reason all of them are soft is because 'night shot' processing has been applied. Even with the manual shots. Which is a big surprise for me because earlier LG's didn't do this.

The way you spot this in the data, is to upload your photo to this

site

Once done it will show you the exif data. Look for a header that says 'User comment' should be near the top with extra characters like "G12.0 IN5 N5 O0.40 Y100.0 C70.0 YT1 CT1 S30" in a line

For the manual shots i saw 'ProMNS' so they have applied pro night shot processing in manual mode now it seems. What this processing does is noise reduction. It might also be doing image averaging. You get a cleaner photo but the end result is details suffer.

With some of the auto shots i saw MNS in the user comment. That's the regular night sht that kicks in.

However there was one photo that had no 'night shot' applied at all. (Click photo to enlarge)

User comment says 'FM0'

I don't know what you did here, it looks like it was taken in auto. But need to replicate it. As there is no night shot applied

Need to figure out a way to disable 'night shot'. Going into manual would do this with earlier LG's. It doesn't do it with the V30. Unless some one figures this out your shots are going to come out soft indoors whether taken in auto or manual

At least LG tells you what its doing. This kind of processing is applied with other phones and there is no indication whatsoever. If the shot comes out good then great. But if it doesn't its impossible to figure out.

I'm having a tough time figuring out where it set focus. Look at this photo

Where did focus get set ? the black jacket on the chair seems more in focus than his face. I don't know why this happened. Was this photo taken with tracking focus or other.

Are there any photos in there that were taken with tap to focus as i mentioned earlier.

Also would like to see some burst mode images. Maybe it disables 'nigh shot'

The problem with f1.6 is the closer you get the thinner the depth of field becomes. This is why its better to step back.

You did that here

The toy is in focus. The further away leg of the closest stool is in focus. But the closer leg of that same stool is soft. There is night shot applied here so we don't get the sharpest image.

Your shutter speeds are high enough to freeze any motion but that night shot is getting in the way. High chair was taken at 1/200. Should be tack sharp, nope :(

This one is arguably the best of the lot. But one that is perplexing. The light is low here. Light value is 2.7. Not good for portraits yet its come out fine. Night shot is applied. Zoom into the book. It's tack sharp. I think he's slightly out of the plane of focus. Still, the shutter speed is a slow 1/15. He's not moving and all is good :)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
THANKS FOR THIS!

Maybe the NR should be off when he's moving. For still it's good. See comments below I

N CAPS. [MENTION=7789117]CHH2[/MENTION] IS GETTING REALLY NICE RESULTS WITH NR ON, EVEN AT 3200 ISO. SO, NOT SURE WHAT GIVES? ONLY THING I CAN THINK IS THAT SUBJECTS AREN'T REALLY MOVING.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
The problem with night shot being applied is you won't get grain, unfortunately. The noise reduction removes the grain and details get softer. You get a water colours painting with smudged details

If the square moves with his face then you have tracking foucs on. For now, disable it in settings as it does not seem to be able to keep up with him.

Two things

I suggested to use tap to focus with tracking focus off ONLY when he is stationary so seated or lying down. I just want you to get focus down first and see how sharp you can get it. Can you do that. Either in manual or auto. tap to focus. The square won't move around. Just a tap, don't press and hold. It will take a second to make a green square and you have just one second to take the shot before it resets. In manual you can try a lower shutter speed say 1/60 this will allow you a lower ISO or whatever shutter speed that gives you a 600-800 and freezes him

When he moves try burst mode. just aim and keep your finger on the shutter. There is no tap to focus with burst. I figure there is no time for night shot to be applied in burst mode.

Take these at a distance you like, no 2m seperation

When tracking focus is disabled the square won't follow him around. Right now i don't know how many photos you used tracking focus with. All of them ?

There are two issues

- night shot which softens details and

- a focus issue.

For now I want to see if you can get better focus
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
Thanks again. I'll try all of this. Much appreciated.

Been using tracking focus on almost all photos.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Any update since :)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
The update is that I'm a lot happier with the V30 camera than I was at first. The reality is that the GCam by default does better on auto with motion, but only slightly. Using burst mode on the v30 helps. Portrait mode on the GCam looks great on a phone, but on a monitor not so much and highly unnatural. I prefer the more natural bokeh from the f1.6 on the V30.

I also prefer the "colder" files on the the V30 to the unatturally warm GCam files. The GCam is nice for postcards, and that's not a compliment.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
About tracking focus, i wonder if it gets focus best only if the subject is right smack in the centre, the intersection of the diagonals

So as your son moves around, click only if you see the square in the centre. Whether that gets you a more clear shot than off centre

Anther possiblity you have is to shoot 4k video and then pull out frames using 3rd party software, i think androvid does this. it's work but could catch those moment shots easier. You would have to do this in manual to controld for ISO & Shutter speed for video

Each frame will be 8MP
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] coldbeverage:
I just don't think there's a be all and end all on a phone camera, yet. For any phone. This.phone has a very good camera and I'm really happy with it now. So, I'm not really fussed about it any more.
[LeEco Le Max 2 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Shished:
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Systemless version is available in Magisk repo.

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[Samsung Galaxy J2 Questions & Answers] armars:
Hello everyone :)

Everybody knows annoying lack of memory in J2 prime :(

So I got twrp and root. And freed from bloat-ware 500mb in system partition

Tried a lot to move different user apps (from /data) to system/app or system/priv-app

none of my tries had succeed :(

tried different methods titanium backup , lucky patcher, root uninstaller ....

even manually by root explorer (after giving permisions)

my firmware version is G532FXXU1AQG2

Please who has successfully moved apps to system partition help me too :)

tnx
[Samsung Galaxy J2 Questions & Answers] armars:
I find out how to do

move to system/priv-app via root explorer

and set permissions:

for every folder rwx r-x r-x

for every file rw- r-- r--

owner root

than reboot

if icon is disappeared in settings of phone open applications settings

then disable enable moved app (you can also try to clean cache remains)
[Samsung Galaxy J2 Questions & Answers] Marcos OC:
Dont move them, if you do that then when the app updates it will suck your internal memory, and won't move to sd even with adaptive storage on.

Enviado desde mi LG-D855 mediante Tapatalk
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] enseigner:
Hi there,

I am using SPB pocket plus and mobile shell. I love the device Lock they feature but the program only allows you to activate it manually. I would like to have the device lock (not interested in downloading any new programs, had S2U2 and it was ...alright...) activate when I press the power key to waken. I thought I read somewhere that one can use memmaid (which I have) to do this, however I am having difficulty finding good instructions for this. If not memmaid is there another approach? thank you for your time....

-MA
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] enseigner:
p.s. I am running WM6 on an Alltel 6800
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] enseigner:
anyone help?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] antjmon:
I accidentally enabled this on my Kaiser by

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2) then installing the cab file on top of this...

3) and finally uninstalling S2Unlock.

this somehow removed the program itself, but enabled the Windows device lock to automatically come on by itself everytime I turn my device back on. So it would seem that it at least "can" be done, although be it very indirectly.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] enseigner:
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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Jussi77:
easy

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and

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] enseigner:
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worked great! (after I played with it some...)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] enseigner:
sound

so I used this auto lock and got everything to work beautifully... but now when someone texts me the sound for incoming texts won't play. any suggestions?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] enseigner:
disregard - had a box unchecked in notifications and sounds...
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] coolhandz:
I've been using this trick added to build.prop for a while now and it seems that with the latest update (oct), that it now is counting towards the tethering limit on my plan. I just received a text stating that I was within 10% of my 15gb limit when it never counted previously.

Is anyone else experiencing this? Are there any alternative solutions out there?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] viper8u2:
I am still on Grand fathered unlimited and just did the build prop today and it worked for hot spot, I am on the Sept update. Curious to what others say. I am trying to decide to go to the new plan or not, lately I only use about 20 gb and that is a heavy month
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] imnuts:
Tethering always counted for data usage. What you're referring to just skipped the check if it was on your cell plan and let you tether without it. It should have only applied to old, grandfathered unlimited lines for Verizon.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] coolhandz:
I know it counted against my data, but it didn't previously count towards my tethering data limit. Does that make sense? I have unlimited data, but 15gb high speed tethering limit.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] brownd7380:
Well I discovered that if I have wifi router as a repeater, repeating the hotspot. Then connect to it via Ethernet with my raspberry pi Kodi box. That the video streamed is not counted towards my tethered data. No clue why.