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[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Not according to Moto... They say if the update server doesn't have record of it being successful it won't offer anything newer.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Messy update

It would be so much easier if the update was available in the form of a standalone file instead of some hinky upgrade dependent on the stock Marshmallow release. Seems like it would be simpler to just hard reset and then install fresh.

That's interesting. Not terribly so, since this phone won't likely see any more official Rom releases, but interesting nonetheless.
[X Style (Pure) General] The Sicilian:
Thanks! I think I'll wait then.
[X Style (Pure) General] CLETjB:
Needless to say, that after this Nougat 7.0 update, we just can't flash back to a earlier version, since it will corrupt the Boot-loader and brick the phone.

Set it, and forget it.
[X Style (Pure) General] roadrun777:
People, people, people...

I can confirm what everyone already said, USC and Sprint sims get the update, everyone else not yet.

I am on AT&T and I switched in an old sprint sim I have from a junky overpriced moto x I got so I could use ringplus way back when.

The instant I swapped in the sim, the update became available.

So yes it is a confirmation to all of you that it is NOT carrier agnostic (the roll out I mean), it has everything to do with what carrier you are on. So that settles it.

Some things to be aware of, It looks like 7.0 has neutered some features.

I no longer see IP dialing support in the dialer menu system and my phone is 100% factory unlocked, its never been carrier subsidized.

Also there appears to be a few menus missing now.

The main thing they changed was the beautiful stitched logo animation to motos weird advertising song and a huge branded trade mark logo right in your face.

The graphics are smoother on this, I can confirm that. I was one that suffered from stuttering on 6.0 a lot.

It also seems to use less power while in sleep mode. So those 2 things I am really happy with. Removing several diagnostic menus, I am not so happy with, but I'll work with it and see what I can come up with.

Any sprint sim or USCellular sim (even if it is inactivated) will get you the update.

There are some really smart people on here that now how to make your phone think it has a certain carriers sim in, the old way of just changing the MCC/MNC hasn't worked since android 2.something

I used to use it to get access to other market networks which had much better app selection.

Anyway, just a thought.
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
I'm not living in US, hence not on any US cellular carrier. I bought my Moto X Pure directly from Motorola US. I wonder when will I get the update, if at all.
[X Style (Pure) General] andromobilogy:
You'll get the update "Soon Enough".

Thats the new Moto moto last two years :)
[X Style (Pure) General] CLETjB:
To quote acejavelin;

"The update has been slow in rolling out... we don't know why, although a look through the forums here and the official forums you can deduce that it was either halted or paused (or at leased slowed) due to a high number of hard bricking on complete battery drain. It doesn't happen to everyone, but there are enough posts in various places to see a pattern."

SO, if Lenovo/Moto knows something about the HARD BRICKING, will they DO something about all the phones that are now Useless do to their Negligence of not thoroughly SOAK Testing it? Or at the very least, give this forum the TOOLS to help fix the situation..

I knew something was up and it's very discerning that this all happened from a OTA.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
No idea... all the ones that are bricking have been bootloader unlocked previously, so the warranty is void. They are also not acknowledging there is an issue from what I have seen, the reasoning is just my summation from what I have seen discussed in the forums.

The tools needed to fix it would be Qualcomm QDloader blankfile and mbn file, and no, they won't give those out for any reason... not even authorized service centers get those files anymore, Moto corporate only if they even exist (since the death of RSD lite about 2-3 years ago, we haven't seen these files released, although a Moto G4 fileset did leak out somehow).
[X Style (Pure) General] CLETjB:
Can you RE-lock a bootloader with a TWRP Recovery on it?
[X Style (Pure) General] scullydawg:
Of course i did still focuses slow so idk what happened
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Lol... No... To relock you must flash a complete signed image or the lock will fail, part of that is recovery. Besides, if you somehow could it would never boot due to SELinux violation.
[X Style (Pure) General] CLETjB:
Too bad..
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
I see Sprint sim cards on eBay. I think I'll order one and give it a try
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Freedom Pop SIMs are 99 cents last time I looked.
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
Full stock here and flashed the .zip via stock recovery a couple weeks ago when it was first posted here. I immediately did a factory reset and decided to enable encryption.

Everything was fine up until a couple days ago, when I abruptly started experiencing extraordinarily laggy performance at times. I don't even know if laggy does it justice - for example, I might hit the recent apps button and the screen will literally freeze for 3-4 seconds before anything happens. Full stock 7.0 unrooted.

I recall running into questionable performance with encryption enabled on 6.0 awhile back, then ended up doing an FR and disabling it. Not sure whether my current predicament is purely encryption related, purely 7.0 ROM related, or a combination - only way to find out will be yet another FR and waiting a month to see, I guess. Either way, I'm more sure than ever my next phone will be a Pixel and nothing else. I'm very much over shoddy third party options like Lenovorola at this point, even if they're the only way to get microSD. I also knew all along I shouldn't trust the stock 7.0 update as soon as I heard about the FR brick thing way back in March or whenever - these guys are clowns.
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
And does Freedom Pop has the same probability and priority as Sprint to get the update?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
All Sprint MVNO's seem to be getting it, so as long as you get a Spint one (they have AT&T too) it should work. I have one sitting here, but no device to test it, it was just the cheapest Sprint MVNO sim I could think of.

And I don't think it's "priority"... The exact nature of why Sprint and US Cellular customers are getting it and no one else is a mystery, but it clearly is the Moto update server making this distinction.
[X Style (Pure) General] gokart2:
Have been experiencing many app force closes. Lol. Typing that Gboard did it. Mainly that, Google keyboard. But...idk. Was having what seems to be an lcd hardware issue, before N. But this device is almost unusable now. Likely going back to previous FW and waiting for Pixel 2 XL/LG V30 release. Can deal with the LCD issue until then.
[X Style (Pure) General] Muffycheeks:
I wouldn't think so unless you side-loaded the zip.
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
But till now I got all the OTA updates
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
When the update is available to your IMEI, you will get the notification and be able to download it... There is no reason short of pessimism to think differently.
[X Style (Pure) General] smallmj:
Pessimism is quite common when it comes to MXPE updates. What do you think the chances are the we'll ever see the upcoming November security update that will have the WPA2 fix? I'm pessimistic.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Pretty tough... Since there is no fix yet for any Android device, nor source code for it.

Tough to update something if there is no fix for it.
[X Style (Pure) General] ominousnimbus:
As an update:

Today, my screen brightness inexplicably dropped to almost black -- much darker than the lowest brightness setting. Like, I wish I could get this dimness level when I'm out camping in the wildnerness on a moonless night. Couldn't see a thing and had to fumble around for the shut down menu blind and then reboot.

Also, about a week ago (after the 7.0 update), my screen suddenly started getting randomly-colored vertical bands that increased in opacity atop the real content until reaching the point that you couldn't see anything else. Turning off the screen and then turning it back on would restart the process. Again, a reboot fixed it, thankfully.

Bottom line: you don't know how lucky you are if you haven't gotten the OTA yet. I'd pretty much advise skipping it at this point. I'm full stock, unrooted, and no weird apps I didn't have before. The price threshold I'm willing to jump to the Pixel XL/2 XL at is rising about $50 a day lately.
[X Style (Pure) General] tbkrazeey:
Crazy that so many people are having issues with the update, I flashed mine myself and it's been pretty flawless... I must have gotten lucky for the first time ever. Tho I really hoped to get more battery life that didn't happen.
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
Perhaps people should wait for the official rollout to their device rather than flashing the first thing that came along. These issues were present in the test builds and for the most part solved but I am quite sure there are at least two versions for the pure due to these issues and likely this is related to early and late hardware difference.
[X Style (Pure) General] remibeunders:
I have the exact same situation. Not sure to wait for the OTA (will it ever arrive in Europe on a US Pure?) or sideload. But is the version of gokart also the correct version for me?
[X Style (Pure) General] bw 1:
The Freedompop 99 cent SIM is AT&T, not Sprint. Freedompop doesn't sell a Sprint SIM. They have BYOD for Sprint phones and they sell phones that work with their Sprint service.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Hmm... Ok, I guess I have 2 Sprint SIMs from "Freedom Pop" Nexus 5 devices sitting here, I thought they would all be that way, my bad.
[X Style (Pure) General] ShapeShifter499:
Does anyone know if this update contains a modem update that would enable 3-way carrier aggression? Supposedly the chipset allows for it but no firmware was written yet to enable it. It would mean faster cellular speeds.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
We know there is no significant changes to the fundamental operations of mobile or WiFi data...

And I know the Big 3 carriers are often at odds with each other, but I don't think any Moto device would enable "3-way carrier aggression", although if it was an all out battle to the death, I might buy tickets to see that. :D

And yes, I know you meant 3-channel carrier aggregation... There have been no reports of anyone seeing anything like this with the update, here in the states or overseas (where they have had it for a few months).
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
Well, I've found Sprint and Freedom Popup sim cards on eBay and Amazon, but the shipping is unreasonably expensive. I guess I'll wait for the OTA update.
[X Style (Pure) General] swieder711:
I was on a custom MM ROM with TWRP. I restored everything to stock and sideloaded Nougat. Phone has been running great on Verizon. VoLTE and my Network Extender work fine. Big improvement to Bluetooth too. Also added Xposed and GravityBox.

No regrets for me.

Hanging on to this phone with it's audio jack for as long as possible! New battery, cover tape and bumper case on order. My two year old XT1575 should be "like new" once the accessories arrive.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Just go to Walmart or Best Buy and get a Boost Mobile activation kit, should be $10 or so.
[X Style (Pure) General] mediavieja:
Hi, im trying to flash this on my Moto X Pure XT1575 my bootloader is unlocked but when it gets to the Installing Update part, after a few secconds i get an error that says E3001: Package expects build fingerprint of motorola/clark_retus/clark:6.0/MPHS24.49-18-16/8:user/release-keys or motorola/clark_retus/clark:7.0/NPH25.200-22/21:user/release-keys; this device has motorola /clark_retus/clark:6.0/MPHS24.49.18-8/4:user/release and i havent been able to find a solution for this, can anyone help me?
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
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I'm not living in the US! :) I'm from Israel
[X Style (Pure) General] schneid:
Then go to eBay.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Online then... just use a Boost Mobile SIM (not Freedom Pop, their BYOD SIMs are AT&T, only the devices they sell are for Sprint).

Just search for a "Boost Mobile BYOD SIM Kit" or "Boost Mobile Bring Your Own Device SIM kit", there are lots of places online that sell them for $10 or more.

Of course, we have no idea when this is going to release for pulling from the server or when it will get opened up, frankly I am surprised it hasn't yet... I would say I expect it soon, but history would be against me on this one. :/
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
Pure Edition Patience

Patience is the key, and the Moto X Pure Edition is a great teaching tool :). People lived without multi-window and night mode for this long, they'll survive a few more days/weeks.

Same here. Not much else out there that is worthy of replacing it just yet.
[X Style (Pure) General] GrandAdmiral:
It's strange. My girlfriend has a Pure that was purchased from Best Buy and it has yet to notify her of the update. Just weird...
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
What carrier? Sprint or US Cellular, then I'm surprised.

Anybody else it isn't available to yet.
[X Style (Pure) General] core8175@gmail.com:
My Moto X have version 6.0 and software version is the same as the OTA Blur_Version.24.231.16.clark_retus.retus.en.US

How is this OTA nougat?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
What is version at bottom of Settings - About Phone?

Sorry, the Blur version doesn't mean anything to me.
[X Style (Pure) General] opti1:
I just got a notification "Downloading English (US) - Download size requires Wi-Fi" . I have Wi-Fi turned off because I am 'traveling' and I don't want to turn it on and find out this is Nougat because I won't be ready to install it yet. I'm on Verizon, Marshmallow, not rooted. Is anyone else on Verizon getting this? Is it Nougat?
[X Style (Pure) General] opti1:
So it turns out this download is 'offline speech recognition data' and NOT Nougat. I figured when there was no response to my initial post that it probably wasn't Nougat. :(
[X Style (Pure) General] smallmj:
Hey, you got my hopes up. I guess you got your own hopes up too. Maybe it will hit before New Years.

I got the same speech recognition data last night.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
Got the same data file too.
[X Style (Pure) General] chrashing:
Received my $3.79 sprint nano sim off of ebay today. Slipped in the sim, powered on, checked, and the update was available. Worked like a charm, no more waiting for nougat. Tracfone, AT&T calling is working fine.
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
Can you please share the item's page on eBay?
[X Style (Pure) General] chrashing:
Yes, hope this helps

Here is a link to the sim: https: //ww w. e bay. com/itm/ 192111724887 (Remove added spaces to allow my posting a url)

Title: NEW SPRINT NANO/4FF SIM CARD SIMGLW446C 63.10a SPRINT/VIRGIN,BOOST,TELLO,TING
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
Doesn't ship internationally
[X Style (Pure) General] The Sicilian:
This wait is frustrating.
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
Will this Sprint Nano Sim fit the MXPE? $2 international shipping !

https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Activat...hash=item361d68cc1c:m:mfwQG8ouK4UtuJ5mw4Xglkg
[X Style (Pure) General] mstrawn:
Worked for me too! I've been waiting forever for this update. I just borrowed a friends Sprint SIM, popped it in, and immediately got the update.
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
Anyone knows?
[X Style (Pure) General] GrandAdmiral:
She's AT&T...

So can she be sideloaded with Blur_Version.24.231.16.clark_retus.retus.en.US.zip (Nougat)?
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
I wouldn't... we know the update server keeps track of what device get's what version, and if (big if here) there is another update later you will never get it if you sideload.

Honestly, the best way would be to just get a Sprint or Boost Mobile SIM, doesn't need to be activated or anything, just insert it into the phone and wait a couple minutes and it should be offered the update (if not, check for updates and it will be there), let the update finish then swap SIM's back and your golden. If you don't want to do that, I would just wait on a stock device.
[X Style (Pure) General] digitalmahdi:
Guys how's your battery on nougat? I'm not sure whether the update screwed up my battery or the battery is just getting old?
[X Style (Pure) General] schneid:
Mine was awful on Day 1. Let it die off until shutdown then recharged completely. Unplugged it yesterday at 6 AM or so and it was still at 40% around 9 PM. I am not a heavy user though.
[X Style (Pure) General] digitalmahdi:
it's not my first day. I am running this update almost 3 weeks now. the battery life is awful I unplugged mine at 630 AM and by 2 PM at work i had 23%, my only use was whatsapp. this is a disaster
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Wipe your cache partition...

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/indevice_detail/a_id/107107/p/30,6720,9541
[X Style (Pure) General] schneid:
Just Cache or Dalvik too! My X is great but just would like to know.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Stock recovery doesn't have an option for Dalvik, if you have TWRP you can wipe it... it won't hurt anything but it will take 10 times longer (or more) to boot the first time after you do it.
[X Style (Pure) General] digitalmahdi:
wiped it. lets hope it help.
[X Style (Pure) General] curthh:
Battery awful?

Haven't gotten the update as of today, 11.2.17. My reason for wanting it is . . . 1) battery & 2) reduced overheating. Have you found improvement in these 2 areas?
[X Style (Pure) General] autosurgeon:
Yes in both areas.
[X Style (Pure) General] rphfrank:
I haven't received the Nougat update yet either...anyone know how long the rollout is supposed to take? It's been more than a month since it was announced.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
At this point who knows... grab a Sprint or Boost Mobile SIM, slap it in, apply the update, and switch back to your regular SIM.
[X Style (Pure) General] bsorli:
Thanks for the suggestion and giving it a try...looking forward to better success and thumbs up on suggestion later! Sorli
[X Style (Pure) General] smallmj:
I gave up and ordered a Sprint SIM off ebay this morning - I'm in Canada. We'll see if the update rolls out naturally before the SIM arrives. I doubt it.
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Talk on Lenovo support site is that other carriers haven't approved the update yet, whatever that means for a carrier agnostic device, so you will probably get the update via the SIM first.
[X Style (Pure) General] aybarrap1:
LOL... Figures. American carriers can't seem to stand not having a say about updates.
[X Style (Pure) General] spainter:
Not if it messes with their collecting your data to be used or sold for advertising.
[X Style (Pure) General] CLETjB:
Pending Partner Support

Interesting !! https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/MG1949
[X Style (Pure) General] bsorli:
Will I tried Nougat and cleared the cache twice, but still having battery problems on a unit less then two years old. I suspect its the side saddled install of Nougat and something not quite right with this build. Actually, almost forgot that battery life on Marshmallow was worse...so maybe it is the battery.

Question though, what is the primary reason people don't move to TWRP and latest more efficient ROMs?

I'm guessing most want stock installs for Android Pay or similar that I don't use. Guess if a needed android pay and would have to have that... I'd upgrade and move on to the Nexus 6 (my wife is already using and loves) or Pixel newer models.

Thanks for the feedback on battery life and rooting install something more efficient. Sorli...
[X Style (Pure) General] opti1:
Reports are coming in to the corresponding Lenovo forums thread that ATT and T-Mobile folks are starting to get the OTA update. Once there scroll backwards to see more:

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-X-Pure-Moto-X-Style/Android-7-0-Nougat-Update-for-Moto-X-Pure-Style/m-p/3871832#M22180
[X Style (Pure) General] ipulaski:
has anyone received the update in NA? When the update is available, does the notification pop up shows up automagically that there is update available or do we need to manually check every so often for software updates?

nothing for me.
[X Style (Pure) General] The11thDoctor:
T-Mobile User Nougat Update!

I can confirm that T-Mobile is now releasing the Nougat update! I just got the update yesterday! Funny that I was also thinking about getting a Sprint nano sim to get the update.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bill720:
You'll know. I promise.

As has been mentioned numerous times before, the "check for updates" button does absolutely nothing. The checker runs in the background automatically. Once the update is available to you, it will nag you to no end. It will be impossible to miss.
[X Style (Pure) General] opti1:
There is now one report on the above thread at Lenovo forums of a Verizon MXPE owner receiving the OTA Nougat 7.0 update on two phones. A screen shot of "About Phone" after the OTA update is posted in that thread.
[X Style (Pure) General] Zedik:
The fact that you've received the update doesn't mean T-Mobile is now releasing the update
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
It seems this has begun (continued or restarted???)... Several AT&T and T-Mobile users and a single (verified) Verizon user have posted in the official Lenovo forums as getting the update without any trickery, it just popped up and was available.

Verizon users seem to be getting a slightly different build, verified by screenshots... 25.11.23 vs 25.11.22 that everyone else is getting, no word on the exact difference yet.

Remember, the update seems to only be offered via push notification at this time... Jamming the Check for Updates button will NOT help you at all, Lenovo has to offer it to your device and it cannot be pulled at this time. Note if you get the notification take it quickly (within a few hours) and do not cancel it, or the window seems to close and you have wait until the next round that your phone is offered the update.

Source: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-X...gat-Update-for-Moto-X-Pure-Style/td-p/3399914
[X Style (Pure) General] hometech99:
I had the notification pop up just this week in Northeastern US. I'm on AT&T.

I planned on searching XDA and seeing what people thought of it before I did anything though. I'm still stock on my 1 year old xt1575. I don't use Android pay, but I just want what's going to be the most stable and give the best battery life. I made a phone for my sister out of parts and I just put her right on the latest aicp which has been running great. If this official rollout is junk, I just might switch to that myself because my phone's at the point where there's enough junk on it that it's starting to run punky.

I'm going to remove my data, sign out of Google, and factory reset before I do anything anyway. I'm not going to load over my current build which is not running that well recently.

...and now, no more offer. I guess Im waiting--who knows how long.
[X Style (Pure) General] Andromendous:
hey all, I was just wondering your opinions. Do you guys think that well eventually get factory images for 7.0 for the US. I guess I got a little excited and flashed a few roms, and now im stuck on 6.0 modem and issues to no end. I really hope one day I can get it back to full 7.0 sock to rid me of this headache. Thanks for any reply's.
[X Style (Pure) General] DenverScubaSteve:
Verizon user here, I received the new system software available message on Thursday Nov 9. I haven't installed it yet. Confirm with 25.11.23.en.US. I continue to receive the notification even after a few days
[X Style (Pure) General] acejavelin:
Honestly, I doubt we will see it... Lenovo hasn't leaked a factory image in a year.