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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] PsiPhiDan:
This literally has nothing to do with this thread topic. The OP is questioning why reviewers don't seem to value the key differences between the S8+ and the Note8, which is baffling to us Note8 users.

I agree with you, OP. I wouldn't even buy an S8+. For me right now, if I wasn't allowed to buy this phone, it'd be the Pixel XL 2 or LG V30. Only after those being taken away as options would I consider the S8+. This phone having the RAM boost for unparalleled multi-tasking ability and the s-pen are HUGE differences. If the s-pen was a modular add-on for any phone, I'd always buy it and I'd probably pay $200 for the s-pen abilities. So the gap in price between the S8+ and Note 8 is easily worth it to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
I hear ya. I was a die hard Nexus user. When they went to pixel it just did not do it for me. I do not like the way the phones look. I will admit the pixel 2 XL does look better. But the Note 8 looks way better to me. I do miss all the development on Googles phones. But as I have gotten older I don't see myself flashing all these roms like I use to. I would like root and a couple of things. But until Google makes another Nexus I will stick with the Note. Nexus to me was like a pro phone. The Pixel looks like they made it for the average Joe. I liked having something special.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ryland Johnson:
I dont see the point in comparing apples with oranges? I see these reviews and most of them baffle me.

There are four superb Samsung Galaxy S8 series mobiles, the 8, 8+ the (forgot the bloomin name) and the Note. All four have there market share, all four serve a given need and they are not comparable.

Identical situation with cars. Merc class C will come in coupe, saloon and cabriolet even more types.... One is not better than the other all are good cars and all will serve their niche in the market.

I have no idea why we see the Note 8 being compared or versed against other mobiles? There is no other mobile like the Note series. Not my fault don't shoot the messenger. We own a particular type, brand and style of mobile that's unique in this marker sector. As for comparing the Note 8 with non Android mobiles such as Windows and IOS it becomes even more absurd.

I find the note range in the past few iterations to be fabulous micro PC's. Incredible devices and those who don't make use of that S-pen are truly missing the point. The S-pen is not the cherry on the top its the cake. :good:

Ryland :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
The Note8 is worth the extra money all day. I can not wait to see the Note9?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Barkleyfan:
I'm past troubleshooting roms.Samsung has matured to the point where root hurts more than it helps. I'll keep my Samsung pay and stable OS. Tethered to a Frontier,Samsung ecosystem is decades ahead of the competition.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] wase4711:
For some reason, people always feel that they have to justify to the public why their phone is better than your phone; I mean who really cares what someone else thinks about your phone, your car, your clothes, what ever; I miss the days when being an individual was more important that being like "everyone else"..

I've had at least 50 cell phones in my life, and the last few were alot of fun; nexus 6, huawei mate 9 pro, S7 edge, and frankly, this note 8 is probably the best all around phone I have had so far..dont care about rooting any more, but probably will once its perfected and the BL is unlocked, if it ever is, but, that being said, the truth is that NO CELL PHONE is worth 1000 dollars, this one included..but, if you are going to overpay for a cell phone, this one is probably the one you should pop for
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ryland Johnson:
I hear you loud and clear. :highfive:

Your last sentence is where we differ. I am unsure how one can write that no mobile is worth 1k€? I know its an awful lot of cash and I know it makes ones eyes water BUT in the case of the Note 8 have you any idea how complex this mobile is to design then produce? The R&D must cost tens of millions alone. Write a list of the accomplishments the Note 8 covers and its incredible.

In way of comparison. in 2000 my Toshiba Satellite 2800-100 lap top cost 1,500.00€. Celeron 650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb sdram ram memory. It weighed about 3kg. In 2000 it was cutting edge technology! 17 years later we have micro engineered a device that is just chalk and cheese in terms of value, cost and tech'.

In 1989 my NEC 11A 'mobile phone' cost £320.00(?) and only made and answered calls and wow was each call expensive. Its relative and accept it or not over the years the technology has developed at break neck pace yet the prices have

dropped.

I paid last year for the Note 7 887.00€ (twice, enough on that already). This year I paid 1,020.00€! That's a rise of 133.00€ in 12 months to maintain this cutting edge technology. Does the Note 8 warrant that 133.00€ price increase? I would say without a doubt yes but it is subjective and open to debate. :good:

In theory by 2020 we could be looking to pay for the Note 11 1,500.00€ or more! Goodness knows when this technology will level out and reach a point where totally new technology will reach a plateau? For sure unless the science of battery power changes the next generation of uber mobiles may only function for an hour sans a recharge or be the size of my 1989 NEC 11A!

The Note series started a revolution in the mobile market. I recall when it hit the stores there was hardly a positive review as most reviewers said the device was too big and the trend would never catch on and indeed I DID feel self conscious when using the Note 1 in public. The rest is history. :)

Now if you truly desire a debate on the value of a device talk Apple. There latest iPhone 8 is a literal disgrace in 'modern technology' and the price -v- value is absurd by any standards. The iPhone 8+ is a better buy but still lags behind the rest yet millions and millions buy them? I suspect just for the brand? That's crazy. :silly:

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] winol:
I think that all those videos or articles about questioning if the note 8 is worth the money it costs over the s8 or v30, etc. Are simply based on the fact that the authors of such videos or articles do not really apreciate what a samsung galaxy note is ! I believe that most of us that love the s pen features and "boxy" body style , will NEVER look back to any other s pen less phone
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zeblade:
If the PEN means nothing to you.. get the S8+. me .. I LOVE the PEN!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] wase4711:
I had a note 1 and 2, and a 4, then got tired of touch jizz, and moved on to other stuff; got a note 8 after being bored with my mate 9 pro, and realizing the nexus 6 was long in the tooth..

As far as 1000 being too much for a phone, I spent many years in the consumer electronics marketplace, and I know the more the technology matures, the lower costs actually go; not that I expect ANY electronics mfg to lower prices on newer models, although if you look at t he prices of 4k tv's now, versus 3 years ago, you will understand what I mean about costs to produce dropping as time goes by; the reason phone mfgs keep raising prices is to keep consumers thinking their phones have newer and greater stuff in them every year, but, believe me, the cost to mfg these phones either stays stable or goes down over time..

anyways, we all decide what we are willing to pay for stuff, so the market forces dictate what mfgs charge; if people stopped buying apple crapple, they would lower their prices too, since they use the lowest cost labor in the world, and their raw materials are nothing to get excited about; they sell the sizzle, NOT the steak!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
I keep hearing about the Spen? If you don't use the Spen get the S8+? I do use my Spen everyday. But if I did not use it I would still choose the Note8. It's just a better all around phone than the S8+.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] trishul:
I was using an s8 before this and I don't use the spen at all..but trust me ..this is an awesome phone and YES very very much worth it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandawg:
Just got this phone. Had a Nexus 6P for 2 years, a Pixel XL for a few days, and now the Note 8. Wow Samsung has come a long way in terms of software. The screen also is amazing. Going to miss front firing speakers, but I think the phone is well worth it. I use the S Pen a lot as a mouse for my phone. Totally loving this phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ryland Johnson:
Hi, I agree with some of your points but respectfully disagree on others. Its normal. :)

With regard the fruity brand. I agree. To add to that in this country every retailer who desires to sell Apple must be 'inspected' and agree to break the law! Not only do Apple control EVERY single action of the sale they fiercely dictate the cost and will not allow retailers to change any sale price without the permission of Apple. Add to that Apple must have their own display unit and so many sq feet of sales space and are not allowed to be exhibited along side other brands? With every other brand one has,

by law

, 20 days to return the goods and box etc without even giving a reason! NOT APPLE....once you remove the plastic wrapper its yours mate! Breaking the consumer laws of the EE. The retailers know this and still represent them. Apple products also offer the retailer the lowest profit margin of all electronic goods sold! Why do these retailers sell Apple? Because they are bought in the millions despite all the hassle. Its a book.

New technology is always introduced to the market at premium initial prices. R&D has to be paid for. Not to mention the advertising costs and sponsorship's to get the product known in the market place.

As you write the cost of TV's with an LED, LCD-LED and OLED screen have dropped yet each time we see a new take on a screen such as the curved screen initial prices are very high. 4k and 3D same situation. I paid 3,000€ for my first Pioneer Kuro

plasma

TV! Hideous price! :crying: Today a plasma screen TV would cost about 300.00€? (Out of interest my last CRT TV, a Panasonic 36" (?) cost me 3,500€. It weighed 86kilo's! :eek:)

In terms of the smart phone things are not so simple. Micro engineering is a major headache for most brands. Samsung appear to have lead the fied in this respect at least for the past 3 or 4 years. When the smartphone revolution started it was Ericsson then Nokia then HTC with Android, the rest is history.

I recall paying a 750.00€ for a HTC touch PRO smartphone in 2008! In reflection and comparing the HTC with today's note 8, well, one cannot, there is no comparison on any scale.

I do see your point. One cannot argue that each and every note iteration has

risen in price

. I suggest though that we take a look at the bigger, industry, picture and identify the actual technological growth V the cost and I think we are doing far better today than we where 10 years ago. :good:

Nice to debate with you.

Ryland :highfive:

PS. In 2007 I purchased the Nokia E90 and with Added GPS receiver and voice activation it cost well over 1,050€. I was even paying 9€ per month for anti virus software! 10 years ago and zero comparison to the present day Note 8 in fact the Note 8 is cheaper.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] wase4711:
I guess the bottom line is that retailers/manufacturers/distributors always try and charge the highest price the market will tolerate; if people voted with their wallets instead of their emotions, no one would pay 1000 for a note 8, or the ridiculous amounts that crapple charges for their stuff..

You cant fault companies for trying to return the largest amount of profit to their shareholders and employees, all we can do as consumers is make the decision whether we are or are NOT willing to pay the price for these things..For me, I don't mind over paying for something I REALLY want, but I NEVER over pay for something that I am not really crazy for..

And, your point about R&D has to be paid for is true to an extent, but since almost ALL R&D occurs many years before the products from that are ever released, and, since most "new technology" is an over lap of some existing tech, or a blatant rip off of another companys' idea, I know that almost ALL R&D costs are covered many times over before you or I see any results from it..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] princeasi:
Yes, it's worth every bit of the $515 I spent!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ggrant3876:
The Note 8 is well worth the money! I still have the S8+ and upgraded to the Note 8, love them both but the Note 8 is about as good as you can get. Looked at the Pixel XL but Google has priced me out of that market, had a Nexus 1,4 and 6 but nothing from Google ever again.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
I am with you. When Google went to the pixel I was out. To me they went from a bad ass pro phone to a kids phone. My Nexus 6 was one of my favorite phones. The way it looked and all. That was my first phone that I never got tired of.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ryland Johnson:
Who made the Nexus 6? I had the first Nexus (I think?), the S, it was made by Samsung and I hated Vanilla Android and still do. I am one of those rare users who actually likes the Samsung UI.

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
Motorola made the Nexus 6
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
Cool thing about Nexus or Google phones are the development. If you want your phone to look like TouchWiz you can do it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jpasint:
Same here. Have had it for 3 years.

Got a Note 8 I am testing out now though.

I also pre-ordered the Pixel XL 2.

I'll keep one of the two and eBay the other.

I feel so guilty leaving my Nexus 6 in a drawer lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ryland Johnson:
I know its subjective, I just find the Pixel mobiles rather cheap looking and ugly? Not sure I think the orange button on the side helps nor the fact the rear is a third glass and two thirds alloy. I understand the reason for that design cue but its just not my taste. :(

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
I am with you all the way. They need to go back to Nexus. Pixel looks like a kids phone. The new Pixel 2XL looks a little better but that's not saying much.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] DeeXii:
Is there a way to remove the SIM icon from the messages / dialer?

It seems silly they keep it there for those using a SIM with a SD card. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] recepo1:
i agree i hate that
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Kalm_Traveler:
There's a way to switch the phone from dual SIM mode to single SIM mode but i can't remember which service menu off hand... I know switching the libsec-ril to one from a single SIM model will do the trick but I'm positive there is a setting you can use as well. I'll try to find it.
[Touch Cruise General] aven_cn:
My htc polaris can't use other sim card,:( is there anybody have SIM UNLOCK for HTC POLARIS??THANKS A LOTS!!!!
[Touch Cruise General] LEDJSTYLE:
OLIPRO will be the right men again and again but actually he is in Barcelona, it seems he 'll be working on it asap. (That's what i read in the other thread)

Please check and read threads before posting or asking

Regards
[Touch Cruise General] LEDJSTYLE:
Anyway, i wanna help , so :

Check this Thread :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=347826&page=7
[Touch Cruise General] aven_cn:
SORRY,THAT I HAVE BUY IT IN THE htc-debloguer that i can't wait it .THANKS
[MX Player] kiku99:
Of course, custom codec ARM v7 NEON is installed.

But MX shows only "This video format not supported (WMV3)".

On anther tablet, MX Player Pro(V1.9.3) plays the same WMV file smoothly.

Is it some kind of level down or others?
[MX Player] dhruvdave:
Have you tried sw decoder
[MX Player] kiku99:
Yes, of course.

I have already posted my envionment in detail from bug report menu.
[MX Player] kiku99:
I have installed custom codec via Google Play.

In my situation, it might not work well for 1.9.8.

So I have downloaded mx_neon.zip file directly, and specify the file in the MX Player Pro. Then it works well again with WMV files.

So the problem is Custom Code via Google Play installer might go wrong.

Thank you!
[MX Player] akaMETEOP:
Thx works!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] budalica:
I have V10 and I HAVE to have matte anti glare screen on the phone . Outside visibility on sunny day is one big ZERO ! Especially when I am trying to take picture of something all I see in the screen is my stupid face . And you know how matte screen protector affects colors on the screen . IT RUINS IT !! It helps with visibility and fingerprints but in normal use screen looks dull .

Now to my Question . How is visibility on v30 outside on sunny day without shade in sight ? I know v30 has oled screen ( Like samsung I used to have ) but still . I am curios . Don't be shy . I need more than one opinion before I commit for upgrade .
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] lubczyk:
Coming from a LG G5 and a prior Samsung Galaxy S5. The daylight visibility is quite good. I still wish it was brighter though. It would be cool if it was twice as bright. I thought the LG G5 visibility sucked. There was not a cloud in the sky this past Saturaday and I could actually read the screen in the sunlight compared to my LG G5. I don't know how it will handle the Florida or Southern California sun however. I bought the LG V30 due to the cheaper price, wide-angle camera, and a 2nd year manufacturer warranty. The 2nd year manufacturer warranty pushed me over the edge over the Note 8.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gingi999:
So randomly I was looking at the updates available for the phone on the Galaxy app store. And saw that certain countries including Korea China Vietnam and Japan have it built-in to the Samsung phone UI. I was wondering if someone from those countries could post their APK for us less fortunate folks. I'd like to try it out and see if it works. Thanks in advance.

P. S. I attached a screenshot.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Kalm_Traveler:
It's a bit misleading there - the app is the same across the board (most likely) but the features enabled are determined by settings files including those in the CSC for your carrier. The nice part about that is that with root you can edit your existing CSC to enable features that were missing or disabled.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gingi999:
I'm not sure you're correct. I'm just thinking about the unlocked version of the phone, I don't think it has anything to do with the carriers.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] liquidguru:
When I go to Galaxy Apps, there seem to be several apps to download that offer call recording
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Kalm_Traveler:
Well, I compared the full contents of my N950N (a Korean model), a N950F (European model), and a T-Mobile branded N950U and they all had the same dialer (the F and N's are about 95% the same, the US models have more differences due to hardware but the software is still about 90% identical), but what to I know :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gingi999:
Hey if you have the Korean model could you please post the top one in the photo I attached I think that's the APK that manages the phone system and could contain the call recorder.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gingi999:
Sorry forgot to attach the photo, here it is.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Kalm_Traveler:
yeah that one is identical across the board. Like I said, you need to enable call recording via CSC settings. What you are missing is this line:

<CscFeature_VoiceCall_ConfigRecording>RecordingAllowed</CscFeature_VoiceCall_ConfigRecording>

That enables the call recording function, it is not a different APK.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] crayonyes:
Damn i wish they put it in adb secure setting instead of csc.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] shouren04:
Yup, I believe KT is correct. I have a N950F, I'm 99% sure I didn't have the call recorder option. After I installed KT's TMO mod I got the call recording. I have not tried it yet though.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] shouren04:
Yes but unfortunately if you have a N950U it won't do you any good. The mod is made for N950F variants only & you would need custom recovery installed in order to flash it.

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-8/themes/mod-exynos-t-mobile-csc-wifi-calling-t3678846

Discussion thread:

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-8/help/exynos-odin-flashing-fail-please-mistake-t3673231

Do you have a Tmobile N950U variant & do you not have the call recording option?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Kalm_Traveler:
It looks like they finally have a working root for the snapdragon versions now, so he could just manually copy the others.xml file into his system/omc/tmb/ folder and reboot I think.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] shouren04:
Actually that is true, totally didn't think about that. Manually copying all the files over should work as that's all the flash is doing anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Kalm_Traveler:
I think he's already on a tmobile phone, so he just needs the others.xml file added to enable the extra features. He should also edit omc.info to change the others tag from no to yes but I think it will load it anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] shouren04:
Ah I see, I just just assumed the call recording feature was stock on TMO variants.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gordohat:
Where could I find the CSC settings to change this file and add the above line?

I have a rooted N950F with Official firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Conito11:
If I'm not wrong just edit your build.prop file with text editor and add such line and done.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gordohat:
Thanks. Where could I find the Build.prop file? Would I be running into any permissions issue in editing the file? Also could you recommend an editor please?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] shouren04:
That CSC feature line wouldn't go in the build.prop. It would need to be added to cscfeatures.xml or others.xml.

For stock N950F with original firmware it would most likely will go in cscfeatures.xml as it most likely wouldn't have others.xml, as to what folder that's in, I couldn't tell you as I don't know what CSC you are currently on. But if stock, cscfeatures.xml most likely will be encrypted.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gordohat:
Found it under "/system", but I don't think this is the correct file for this entry as the line to add is in XML format. Unless it needs to be specified in build.prop as a different entry line?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] shouren04:
See post #19 above, it doesn't go in build.prop.

What is your active CSC & what carrier are you on?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gordohat:
CSC is TEL for Telstra Corporation (Australia).

I found "cscfeature.xml" under "/system/omc/TEL" but the file in encrypted.

There is no "others.xml" in this directory. There is a "customer.xml" though, which is not encrypted.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] shouren04:
Yeah it looks like all Note 8s have encrypted cscfeature.xml, you wouldn't have others.xml stock.

I have tried adding others.xml & editing omc.info to enable in the past with stock rom & it doesn't work. Need to use unencrypted cscfeature.xml