yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lafronz:
Oh, I forgot to mention that Asus support was kind enough to offer a repair or replacement for $155, since it's out of warranty. I'm hoping for a much cheaper option.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnkirchner:
I have never seen the intel logo on mine? Have you tried booting the tablet in to fastboot mode by shutting it down and then turn it on by holding the volume up button and the power button? If you can get to fastboot mode, you should be able to use adb commands. Unfortunately, i am not familiar with the flash software you are using.
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frostsavage:
So, I installed lastest RR Nougat on my GT-I8190 with pico gapps yesterday. Suddenly out of nowhere some apps started freezing, going black screen then closing without a crash message, in the chase of some games they do the whole thing in specific moments (after an specific load screen or specific menu option.) Already cleared cache and this thing is still happening. Please help
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juandavidrey:
Apps close suddenly. RR 7.1.2 SM-G900M.

Hi, I have the same issue in my SM-G900M. I had installed a previous version that run perfectly but after the last update (sept 24) the apps close suddenly.

________

So, I installed lastest RR Nougat on my GT-I8190 with pico gapps yesterday. Suddenly out of nowhere some apps started freezing, going black screen then closing without a crash message, in the chase of some games they do the whole thing in specific moments (after an specific load screen or specific menu option.) Already cleared cache and this thing is still happening. Please help[/QUOTE]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] aaronc_98:
I have seen contradictory reports on the FCC filing, so what is the truth- does the Pixel 2 XL support bande 71 or not?

thanks,
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] flex360:
Why don't you go to the source and find out yourself?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Golf c:
No
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] flex360:
Yes it does support it.

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[/COLOR]Network

World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1

GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8

CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10

FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2

TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412

Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support

1Pixel is an unlocked phone and

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Network

World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1

GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8

CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10

FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2

TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412

Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support

1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Golf c:
Where does it say band 71?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] fiffan86:
You might want to get your eyes checked, there is no band 71 support. I believe the only phone this year to support it is the v30.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] desiregeek:
For some reason when I ordered the unlocked one I did not see that many bands supported on the Google site. Maybe they updated it after. The more the better
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cb474:
I feel pretty much 100% sure that the Pixel does support band 71 and will never officially support it. The FCC filing for the Pixel clearly shows no support for band 71:

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...n_id=tL+QG5ST3W6FkZ/OqTI25A==&fcc_id=NM8G011A

Click on "Test Report-HAC-RF.pdf" to download the report. Scroll to page 5 to see the bands.

The phone will not operate on a band that the FCC has not approved it to operate on.

Yeah, it's a bummer and seems dumb though.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] hartleyshc:
Its possible. I believe it was band 12(?) that was not officially supported on the Nexus 4. The hardware supported it. But it wasn't in the FCC filing either. It was added by flashing a test modem.

I can't remember if it was ever added back in officially or not.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] tkoreaper:
It's been stated somewhere else that the phone must have the hardware to support it and the Pixel 2 may not. Only the LG V30 supports it at this time. We don't even know if the Pixel's Snapdragon is the updated one Qualcomm said would support band 71... the same one in the V30. But if it is, the modem, antenna, amps, filters, and all the other necessary hardware has to be there as well. It's unlikely at this point that it will support it given the phone's hardware certification date which was prior to band 71 being certified by 3gpp/fcc.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] obsanity:
It was LTE that was turned off on the Nexus 4. It had the amplifier for it but was not certified by FCC. It is absolutely possible that changing radio band could enable band 71 on the pixel 2. And it may be easy enough for Google to enable it later if the phone actually has hardware for it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cb474:
As someone who is currently still using a Nexus 4 I can tell you that (1) it was band 4 and maybe a couple others, but definitel not 12 which came years later, (2) it was never officially supported, (3) enabling it was not simple and eventually got mostly killed by Nougat.

Also, the Nexus 4 was unusual in that it was essentially just an LG Optimus G in a slightly different body. The Optimus supported LTE, but it was just turned off for whatever reason the the Nexus 4. I don't think it is that simple with the Pixel 2.

Anyway, my point was the the Pixel 2 does not officially support band 71 (as can be seen in the FCC filing) so Google will never enable it, because that would be illegal. I thought about saying something about maybe it will get hacked into existence like with the Nexus 4, but that has happened on such a tiny handful of phones ever that I think it is extremely unlikely to the point of it's just not going to happen.

I do think it's ridiculous that a phone that has not even shipped yet is essentially already obsolete on T-Mobile's network (which is also true for the new iPhone 8 and X and every other phone except the V30). They know about these network changes years in advance. The Snapdragon 835 chipset obviously can be configured for band 71, since the V30 does it. So why don't they just plan ahead for these things? I guess because they would love to have people just buy another phone in a year.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ricey:
Probably because 600mhz/band 71 auction only finished in recent months and these devices are designed about a year ago. No one knew how the auction would go, like who would win and how it would be integrated into existing networks. Heck Qualcomm only added support for it back in April 2017 and they said it requires additional hardware. If the OEM couldn't change their design in time for release they would not be able to make the change. I'm sure they would love to be able to tout the support for it if it would give them some extra sales but sometimes things are too far along already. The V30 was announced back in Aug and it still hasn't actually shipped for tmobile so it's possible LG had the time and was willing to add support at the last minute which caused the delays.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] edd247:
Band 71 is only available in a few markets anyway, so it is now a big deal right now. Some markets won't have band 71 until around the time the Pixel 3 comes out
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] SquallLHeart:
NO band 71 for any phones released this year besides the v30
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ricey:
According to Tmobile, Samsung will have a phone with band 71 support later this year. It will most likely be a mid-range phone. We'll probably see a more major adoption in 2018. Part of this could also be T-mobile's fault. Their initial rollout schedule was supposed to start in 2018 but they accelerated it for 2017, pushing out test sites 2 months after receiving the licenses from the FCC. They are simply moving too fast for most companies to catch up, which can be a good and bad thing, a good thing in the long run for those who use t-mobile.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] SquallLHeart:
yea, even though the 600 MHz band is still pretty limited in a ton of areas... i would love to have more coverage in very rural areas and having that band would certainly be awesome.. and for the most part.. and actual factor in wanting to hold out until the Pixel 3...

because Qualcomm delayed the release of the 836 chip... the Pixel 2's are only going to be rocking the 835.. which also plays a factor in band support.

alas... the camera as well as the trade-in offer Google is offering for the Pixel I have now ultimately won me over and bit the bullet.. i'm getting the Pixel XL 2.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ricey:
Well if Google keeps the current trade in going and Tmobile keeps trying to attract Pixel users, it shouldn't cost you much to upgrade to the Pixel 3 next year ;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] DualSportDad:
S8 active is rumored to be that phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cb474:
The annoucement by T-Mobile of the results of the auction was in April, but my understanding is that the actual auction was complete in January. So the industry has known all year T-Mobile would be using band 71. Given that some phone companies roll out new phones every six months (Motorola has being doing this lately) that should have been plenty of time to adopt the design of the Pixel and Note 8 and other recent phones.

I think the reality is the phone manufacturers just don't care. It would incur extra costs to revise a design. They have their own process. No one except extreme gadget nerds know about these things. They just roll out phones on their own schedule and have zero incentive to do something that would prevent people from having to buy a new phone sooner rather than later.

By the end of 2018 T-Mobile's rollout should be complete. They are already ahead of schedule. And it is going to be a huge part of their entire national network. A high end phone like the Pixel should not be obsolete on a carrier's network, within a year or less.

The LG V30 uses the Snapdragon 835 and has band 71. This is not a 835 vs 836 issue.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Ricey:
The auction results were only announced by the FCC in April actually, which Tmobile then announced publicly as well. Until the FCC announces it they do not release any sort of info to any other companies for obvious reasons. You nailed it on that phone manufacturers don't care enough about it though, especially if they're too far along with development. They won't risk their schedule and sales. Well except LG I guess. I wonder if they have a deal with Tmobile to be the first. They were also first with band 66 for V20. It could also be a competition type of thing where Tmobile told Samsung and LG a bit more ahead of time since they have close ties. The Pixel and Google not so much since the Pixel is exclusive to Verizon.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] cb474:
I don't think that is entirely accurate. I already acknowledged that the auction results were announced in April in my last post. But the terms necessary for the auction to go forward were met in January. See:

https://www.tmonews.com/2017/01/fcc...sfies-final-stage-rule-will-conclude-stage-4/

This mean that it was known that the spectrum was going to be bid on by wireless carriers, was in fact already being bid on, and one or more would get it (though it was also know already in January that T-Mobile was one of the bidders).

Anyway, if it had not been T-Mobile, it would have been another carrier. So there was no reason for cell phone manufacturers not to start planning on this in January. It was a foregone conclusion someone would be using 600 Mhz.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Pig Vomit:
I would just like to point out that V30's FCC filing did not list band 71 either. That having been said, as TMO has not made an announcement that Pixel 2 has band 71, I think it's highly unlikely it does.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] tkoreaper:
Using T-Mobile's new app 'BYOD Check App' it says that my Pixel 2 XL is compatible with both band 12 and 71.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mademan420:
I only get this using the app. Where are you seeing this info?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] rsbenedict:
Where does it say that in the app. My understanding is that you'll get the good to go if you have one or the other but not necessarily both.

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Extended range doesn't mean it has both bands. Either one of extended range.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] lazyway:
My understanding is that while the Snapdragon 835 chipset theoretically supports band 71, additional supporting components had to be present on the board for proper band 71 support. Chances are, Pixel 2 (and others) were designed before 600MHz finalized and simply don't have the components to send/receive on 600MHz even if the chipset itself supports the new band.

I'm new so I can't cite, but check bgr article "galaxy-note-8-t-mobile-600mhz-support-vs-lg-v30"
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] stevemw:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/g...840235-google-pixel-xl-2-band-71-support.html

Oct 14, 2017 - 9 posts - ‎3 authors

Google Store support says. XL2 will support Band 71 aka T-mobile 600Mhz LTE On the other hand Pixel 2 doesnt support Band 71.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] ne0ns4l4m4nder:
So I never wanted to be like those -bleeping- iPhone users always buying the latest BS about the new phone they are coming our with, but with the Google store offering me $350 for my current pixel in near perfect condition, how could I say no to an XL2. LMFAO looks like they got me ?? let's hope it's just as good if not better, anyone else trading in?
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] atlp99:
I'm thinking the same thing, the trade in for my Pixel makes it worth it to pick up the pixel 2. Before the trade in was announced I was planning to skip the 2
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] GuestK00143:
Same here. I had no intention of preordering the XL2 but that trade in and 0% financing hooked me. I always wanted the XL but it was out of stock for the longest time.

EDIT: Canceled the order because of the curved screen on the XL 2 and am going for a regular XL instead.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] eyekantbeme:
0% financing is only if you're a new customer....Read the fine print. :/
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] GuestK00143:
I am
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] shadowline:
I decided to jump in and trade my Verizon model pixel (still bitter about the locked bootloader) for a pixel 2 XL. I wouldn't have made the jump either without that trade in credit.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] ihierbal:
I ended up pre-ordering a Google version Pixel 2, coming from a Verizon Pixel. I was paying monthly for my original pixel, so I owe about $300 left on it. Figure I'll take the $350 to pay that off and get a free Google home mini (already have a regular home in the living room).
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] ne0ns4l4m4nder:
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[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] ne0ns4l4m4nder:
No 0apr is for everyone I called them and that's what they told me
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] Haz3:
I pulled the trigger and used my early upgrade on Verizon, send in my Pixel and getting the just black XL2 128gb. I won't get the 300$ credit but it pays of my pixel and still get mini home. Now before I get chastised for taking the vwz version understand that it really our only option for cell carriers where we live and we use the beyond unlimited plan for our internet( again best option in our area). I may be screwed when it comes to unlocking and so on but with rootless substratum and Nova launcher I think I'll be just fine.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] TheSt33v:
Verizon no longer subsidizes devices, which eliminates the only reason why I ever bought devices from them. Unlocked Pixel 2 XL, here I come! I didn't have anything to trade in so I paid full retail, but hopefully they'll give me a nice fat trade in deal when future pixels come out (and hopefully they'll be good enough phones that I still want to buy them).
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] rknee:
Ditto on 2XL. The trade in was a yuge plus. I've been envying the close to bezel-less display on the new phones. Plus the new dx0 rating was a big incentive. I love the pics on my pixel so when I saw it rated even better, had to get this next iteration.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] bush911:
It is damn good to trade in for you guys. but for those who live abroad US, very difficult to get a pixel phone.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] ne0ns4l4m4nder:
eBay?
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] mngdew:
0% APR for everyone on "phone" purchase. All other, such as accessories, purchases are 29.99%.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] Sakete:
Depends. I got about 50% off on my Pixel through Verizon when they had a promo going on. And the promos happen pretty frequently. So you can get better deals through the carrier (provided you stay for 2 years, as the discount is done in monthly installments over 2 years).

Otherwise, I'll wait for Pixel 3, my current phone Pixel is still perfect, zero issues (and hopefully they bring the headphone jack back, but probably not, so this may well be my first and last Google phone).
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] alluringreality:
While Verizon has primarily moved their offers to bill credits, there are still occasional Verizon deals with reduced phone prices from retailers like Best Buy. The better offers are typically discussed endlessly at Slickdeals. Based on last year's deals, I'd expect there to be offers on the Verizon Pixel 2 at times from Black Friday through the end of the year, especially for anyone that's okay with bill credits.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Take a breath! Wait for Black Friday deals from Verizon. They will have the device for more than half off. Day after, Saturday, you will get the same deal but need to trade something in. Friday .. well just let me say I paid $240 for my Pixel no trade in. But you need to wait until the Thursday before when they announce it. If they don't, and they might not this year, you're only out a month or so.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] ne0ns4l4m4nder:
I mean that's if you want the o so expensive plan Verizon offers with a locked bootloader and bloat, I'd rather spend the extra money and get a phone worth buying than one filled with crapware
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] alluringreality:
The Verizon bootloader will likely be locked again, and that's about it. On the first generation phone the few Verizon apps can be removed in the Play store, and non-Verizon customers can move to the appropriate firmware for their service. Most Verizon offers are bill payments that require users to stay on their service to receive the savings, but in 2017 there have still been some offers from retailers without bill payments, so that it isn't necessary to stay with Verizon. Most likely I'll just wait to see the Pixel 3, but if a deal on a Pixel 2 comes close to the best offer the first-generation phone had in 2016, I might consider going without root.

https://slickdeals.net/f/9417827-be...-e-gift-card?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] iazybandit:
You could of just bought the unlocked version and just activate it on Verizon.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] Haz3:
I could have, except I couldn't get financing through Google. My credit is shot and I can't really afford 949$ in one go
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] docmalc:
I just bought the Google version (I'm with att) pixel 2 128gig. I wanted the blue one but turns out that's Verizon only version...which is definitely a locked bootloader... Spoke with Google store support guy who knew his **** and is a frequent to xda so I trusted his word.

I loved the idea of having 2XL but my HTC one m8 is kinda big in my pocket and although I'd love the size of the screen it would be a double edged sword because I think I'd be annoyed with it in my pocket and feel in my hand.

Is there any other compelling reason other than obvious screen size for 2XL?
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] bokuhmin812:
I have a bootloader unlocked verizon pixel now, can I jump in for train in promo ?
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] alluringreality:
Looks like T-Mobile is also offering $325. The terms state to allow 8 weeks, and the line has to be active when processed. There is further discussion here.

https://slickdeals.net/f/10622908-t...epaid-card-w-t-mobile-one-service#commentsBox

https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/google-pixel-2-offer

My understanding is that the phone can be flashed back to stock and the bootloader locked. It makes sense to know exactly what you're doing before attempting such a thing, since incorrectly locking the bootloader can make the phone unusable. There doesn't seem to be anything related in the terms, so if I was going to take the offer I'd probably just wipe the phone and send the unlocked bootloader, or I'd wait to see feedback about the actual prices they end up giving.

https://xdaforums.com/pixel/how-to/psa-read-relocking-bootloader-t3494614

https://store.google.com/intl/en_us/about/device-trade-in.html
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] ks73417:
I also ordered unlocked Pixel2 directly from Google, don't like the fact expected shipping is Nov 15. Why announce a device if you can't ship it right away, I could understand if I ordered it thru a retailer, but Google? Really?
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] kibmikey1:
Just pre-ordered the kinda blue. Delivery by the 19th. I'll take the appropriate steps to try and see if I can enable unlocking on first boot (no sim on first boot). Of note: this is being delivered from Verizon, not Google. If it works, I'll report back on this post with results.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Marketing 101. I'll order it now to see if I can get it any faster than that XDA guy. Besides I better order now before I give up my Christmas present due to back order.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] mva5580:
As much interest as I tend to have in the latest and greatest tech.....I'm just not finding much of anything to make me feel compelled to place the order.

It's definitely nice that I could get $410 for my current Pixel XL in trade, but I'm still paying $500 for.....what exactly? Just getting really, really hard for me at this point to feel like the yearly phone change is anywhere close to worth it.
[Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers] Sakete:
I hear ya. I'm keeping my Pixel for at least another year. It still works perfectly fine, I will continue to get monthly security updates, already have Android 8.0 and as soon as 9.0 is released I'll get it, just like all the Pixel 2 owners at that time. I see no reason to upgrade, none at all. And......... I still have a headphone jack :)