yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Hdstreetglide:
You Idiot it was taken from a Chinese rom AFTER it was released! If you had read the forums like we have you'd know that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jarek91:
Man, he's obviously going to try and twist the reality of the situation until he comes off as innocent. He's far too young and immature to understand how to accept that he has done something wrong. We're wasting our time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Hdstreetglide:
hdstreet glide buys jarak a beer, then staggers down the street away from the riff raff...:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lusta1988:
deleted as its not relevant anyway
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DSmithZ28:
One of the problems is that there is so much hype with the ROM. It is pretty hard to resist the tempation when you have 20 beta testers running around saying how wonderful the ROM is. iT should have been kept a lot quieter than it has from the top level. I know intentions were well placed because of the mis-information that people were posting and the need for the testers to answer them. But I think it would have been better to have kept everyone under gag order until it was to be released. Because, yes, if Dutty cancels this ROM, it would GREATLY SUCK! I have been happy with v4, but really was looking forward to seeing WM6.1 in action! I even posted about the FRIDAY release on TiltSite.com. Giving Dutty many accolades.

But seriously, next go around needs to be a lot quieter. Dutty surely does not need any presale hype for any of his ROMS. He is awesome. M2cents...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Red_Toyol:
I am not trying to get into the war, but anyway, this is what I feel..

Whoever the beta tester that unethically released the ROM should have think twice. The thing you did is morally and ethically WRONG and you should never feel proud of what you have did. Your action clearly shows your disrespect and betrayal to Dutty and all other beta testers. Even it is a shame to all other XDA-Devs forumers. You are wrong from all aspects and you will never be right on this one. period.

@Dutty,

I know you are disgusted, frustrated and perhaps angry. But, most of us here are sincere fans of your marvelous work, who are not a beta testers and who do not have enough knowledge and perseverance to come out with wonderful ROM like you always did. We sincerely hope you will not cancel the release of this most anticipated ROM. I know it is sometimes easier said than done, but what has happened, has happened. Lets learn from it, and lets move on. Most of us here will surely wait for your release. Nevertheless, a BIG THANK YOU to you Dutty, for your exceptional work so far.

-Red-
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gr@z!:
BTW....

I'm curious to listen from Dutty in person to know about the real release dates.

I'll flash the ROM on my Tilt only after Dutty itself will confirm the Final version as he usually do with all his ROMs.

Forget the stupid guy.

I'll don't flash that "beta rom" without consense of the 'master' dutty. So.. I'll wait the Final Release (DualTouch v5??)

After all...

I suggest everyone to stay all calmer than now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ramontrotman:
this just in

after some buger king and a shot of remy martin...dutty has decided not to cancle the rom. wm 6.1 for all!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jarek91:
Well said brotha...well said
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Zoisite:
Oh yes.... it was a final release version... that is why Microsoft has been sending out letters to different web sites ordering that it be removed immediately. I'm sure they are doing that because it is final and was released already... oh wait! It isn't supposed to be released until April!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Hdstreetglide:
Dutty promised an official release on Friday....but that was before the other was posted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] badbitbucket:
Typical primadonna answer. I'm a professional QA engineer and I take a bit of offense at the implication that being a beta tester is not in itself, a significant contribution. It's an incredibly valuable service performed for free.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jarek91:
umm...the code would be final by now for an April release. You -do- know how RTM works, right? The manufacturer has to have the gold code months in advance to do their internal testing and tweaking with their hardware configurations and then produce initial stock to be shipped to retailers. The release you are talking about would be the general commercial release...as in "to the consumer" which will actually be handled by the different manufacturers of the devices and would be the same code that was finalized more than 5-6 months previous. So once again, plebian, shut up and read a little before you open your mouth. I wouldn't suggest trying to fit more than both feet in there at once...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] y2whisper:
even with the hype at most were grown men (and women...can't forget about the women) lets have some patience having the beta testers hype it up here and there actually can help to the degree that yes something is coming ur not left in the cold, and when its done it will be well worth it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gr@z!:
I know.. but I feel Dutty is a smart person and doesn't mind of that stupid link.

I think a moderator could delete that link in that post.

Dutty!.... you know.... forget the stupid happening of that asshole.

Good job! Keep up the good work! I'll wait your official release. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lusta1988:
My personal recommendation for the near future: a beta tester should be all but big mouthed about future releases that only "he" can try. I think that should be the first thing to have in mind, so as to avoid another situation like this one. Discretion should be the first rule of engagement when participating to something like this, even if its just a signature. So that if you're not, and talk about them, your probably as guilty as he is for trying that. Secrecy is the key to keeping the rest of the rom fans happy! Just my 12 and a half cents
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Zoisite:
Fine, I'll give you that the code is final, but that still isn't the point. The point is that Microsoft doesn't want it out yet, just as Dutty doesn't want this rom out yet. But here we are, using WM 6.1, even though Microsoft doesn't want it out yet. That is my point. We are all guilty of doing to Microsoft what you say I did to Dutty. And don't even try to argue with me that Microsoft does want the code out, I have seen three different letters from them strongly recommending that the WM 6.1 builds be taken down.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] HDuser:
Guys and Gals, take a deep breath, hold it, now let it out slowly.

Thank you.

Can we now drop all the colors, intresting wording, name throwing, winching and complaining.

There are always 2 sides to a story and when it comes to leaked roms well if it was not for them then this site would not have become what it is today.

Lets get back to Developing and issues at hand, please.

The last 4 pages on this subject don't real add much value do they?

Its a request.

As for the deleting of the Post, "I" have a small problem with that as in if we don't do it for M$ as the files are not on our Infrastructure why should we do it for others.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
LOL...have you read any of my post's.

Any quote on quote engineer would know how to read and comprehend. I take real offense to your primitive answer and blatant attack at me. I was asked by Dutty to be a BETA tester because of my willingness to help others and contribute some useful knowledge to XDA. What have you done? If you have nothing valuable to add this forum you can remove yourself at any time.

OK ENGINEER!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tvachev:
No hard feelings

Thanks dutty ... don't be offended - it was/is a big thing.

Compliments to you and your work...

I will donate to dutty because I like what he is doing with the firmware ... it is not that I liked the private betas :(

I can't understand all the apostoles ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Zoisite:
You know, I really think that you are so angry because you are no longer special. I have seen many of the Dutty beta testers posting about how great his latest beta is, but oh wait... we can't have it. Now anyone can just jump on rapidshare and download it, and now you can't parade around with your great rom that only you and a small handful of others is allowed to have.

I would like to personally thank who ever it was that posted this on rapidshare, not because now I get to use the rom, but because you knocked people that were bragging about the rom right off of their throne.

And that will be the end of this little argument, I will respect the mod and not fight any more. I suggest all of you do the same.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
LOL...are you serious...Umm find a post where I have bragged about it. Honestly!

and as you said. "parade around with your great rom"

Do you smell that...It smells like jealously to me. I wouldn't care if I wasn't a BETA tester. I take great privilege in being a BETA tester not parading around and bloating around about it. I'm trying to do a service to Dutty and community by testing it out so people like you don't fill up the thread with comments like...how to I get youtube to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jarek91:
Actually that's the best reason to donate to any dev...because you like the fact that they are contributing their time and knowledge to finding ways of improving our toys. It's a way of saying "I noticed you work hard at this and I appreciate it."

As for our grand tirade...I'd like to think that you'd get a similar reaction for any of the dev's put in this type of situation. Why? Because we deeply respect what they do for us and none of us like to see that dedication and generosity disrespected.

edit: w00t...made Senior Member... :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] badbitbucket:
Ya know, I really don't give a rat's ass whether you think I'm a "real engineer" or not. My point is that I don't think it's necessary to give someone a pissy answer when they offer up thier valuable time and knowlage for free. You could have simply said something like, "Dutty picks his testers, so you'll need to contact him." Or something less hostile than the answer you gave.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] elrooster:
No one stole anything like you said. If you're not happy with it. Don't use it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
The whole purpose of us Beta testers was to try and single out the faults in Dutty's 6.1 ROM so that everybody else didn't have to. I'm sorry you fell that way but since Dutty's Rom have become so popular everyone download's them the second they come out, alpha, beta, whatever stage.

Unfortunatley some members download this ROM and then post all the bugs that we already know about, causing people to flame and arguments start.

Dutty hoped that by thoroughly testing the ROM and controlling the posts on what the real faults were, and what is just a config issue, he could produce a superior 6.1 Rom.

I in no way consider myself above anyone else on this forum.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
EDIT: Your right my mistake I should have said it nicer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Hdstreetglide:
Beta Testers Please Read

Alright Beta Testers, We all agree that there has been a grievous wrong committed to Dutty. I feel the same way, however, even with my anger, I feel it is time to put this aside, especially in this forum. The Mod has requested we comply and I ask my brothers to please do so. There are many small disagreements breaking out and this doesn't contribute to anyone at all. We have our own venue to discuss thislet's take it there and let's get back to development. Thanks:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Your Right.

*Taking my sack of door knobs to duttythroy.lives-in.eu :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Well spoken agreed. I'm sorry for my previous comments.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] collinssc:
I will apologiza as well... tempers were at a new hieght, with all of us ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MasterOfDesasters:
I agree too brothers, spend all of you a Tullamore and suggest we play a little bit baby-throwing. It's actually very popular I think... :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] y2whisper:
in lite of this how about we close this thread off once the real version is launched?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] andlommy:
Do you want the "uber secret protected" beta?....HAVE IT!!!

There you go folks, feel like you are the "1337" beta testers:

http://xda.scan4.us/index.php?download=BetaTestersWithPassword/Duttys WM6.1 Rom RTM.zip

[rapidshare/megaupload links removed due to request]

[xploit link remains as POC]

I really suggest anyone administering dutty's website to go get a better job..

that was too simple......and don't blame me...blame google...and your own hands?

to dutty: sorry m8 if i spoil any of the fun, i really admire your work and i appreciate it, i just don't think that the guys that are helping you out with the website know what they're doing (and i really wanted the latest rom for my kaiser :) )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
and you couldn't have waited one day huh?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] flashman:
so much anger and flaming in the kaiser forum

in the blue angel and the universal forum they where much nicer to each other !!

is it the kaiser that brings the evil ???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JR_de:
You know that this is a reason why a cook would stop creating new ROMs? And then you won't get the latest ROM anymore.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] crispyj:
No it's not the kaiser. It's the ignorant noobs who have no patience to wait until the official release by Dutty that are making it this way. It's just ridiculous that people can't understand why we were privately testing the beta and what we were working on to prepare for the public release on Friday. Great job in releasing it early so that one of the biggest contributors to the kaiser forum will now no longer release anything. Hope your happy. Have fun supporting it without any of us to assist.

Sorry Mods, I had to vent before going back to the other forum.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jarek91:
Don't even respond to the latest leak posting people. It's just what the guy wants. I suggest the true testers talk at the other forum and the rest of us wait for the official release thread...assuming that certain people do not discourage a great chef from continuing his work.

Now...how's the weather over there?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Not Cool. Just PM someone on the beta test team if you find and exploit.

Unofficial releases help no one.

Dutty is helping you by making these ROM's

Why do this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] futbolkeeper:
And it's not flaming when we have complete morons that do stuff like post ROM's before they are ready, they deserve everything that they get. It's going to be a complete newbie that flashes it because it's the new thing and then the beta testers and Dutty get to deal with the aftermath. Ever hear of testing before releasing?? Who/mever keeps posting it is a complete waste. I for one thank the testers for finding the bugs, and Big thanks for Dutty for Cooking and Fixing.

Pay no attention to the idiots that think they are uber awesome for spreading something that is not theirs. (Way to click an upload button, I applaud you! That takes a lot of talent)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JR_de:
it's too dark to see anything outside...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MasterOfDesasters:
thanks mate. that gives me the feeling that not all users here are greedy for the newest beta release instead of waiting for a soon finished awesome and rocking rom. thumbs up for you post much appreciated!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] crispyj:
duplicate post
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] crispyj:
100% agree....wish there were more like you around. We know that people were anticipating the release and were frustrated with how long it was taking, but they need to remember that Dutty didn't have a phone while it was being built and to top it all off his pc crashed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] andlommy:
I'm not greedy, just too curious ;)

The community of 'closed beta testers' called themselves 1337 and felt somewhat privileged

i just felt annoyed that people show off with what's not their by default....

again - all respect and kudos to dutty for his work, keep the work up, but don't keep the results of it low
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] crispyj:
I'm sorry...what's 1337....we never called ourselves anything. I never even changed my signature to ensure I didn't get PM's from people begging for access. There were very good reasons for the rom being beta tested..check my previous post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Just ignore him...this is what he wants.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MasterOfDesasters:
me too. never stated, that I have the 6.1 closed beta rom or stuff like that. So what is your point, andlommy?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
Absolutely disgusting what has happened here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] duttythroy:
All people who were responsible in leaking my roms can go and commit...................

This really pissed me off, not because it was leaked but because it wasnt the end product as there were some bits I need to fix. This salso shows me how much my roms are valuable and this will just make me stronger and I wont go down so easy,

MODS DELETE THIS IF NECESSARY BUT JUST COME FROM AND PISSED OFF

Mod Edit: Sorry Dutty too graphic!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] intothevoid:
Yes. Extremely.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dissentire7:
Whole Situation Sucked.

I think the beta testers were just done a great service. It proves that it was no longer one of you that leaked the beta (as many of you had initially thought and screamed about). The file itself should have been password locked like his previous releases.

Infact, if anything, some discretion should have been used in terms of how the ROM was discussed up until this point. The amount of hype around it and the general excitement meant something like this would inevitably happened.

I'm just glad that the moderator's words were taken to heart and the personal attacks have died down in the most recent posts...before that, I was pretty disappointed with how few reasonable posts were actually out there.

That's my 2cents.

Dutty - Sorry for everything that's happened to you man. It really is a shame.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SatScan:
YEP I AGREE

Dutty take your time... like allways i wait for your release Nothing more Nothing less.

Thank you for take so many time to make the ROM's deep respect!!!!

And to all other CookingChefs and POF and Alex !!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cptsunshine:
Hi everyone

I've been a regular visitor to the forums for a while now and this seems like a perfect opportunity for a first post ;)

This isn't meant to be an introduction, so I'll get to the point:

Dutty:

I have no experience cooking own roms, but I have a fairly strong technical background (windows developer), so I believe to some extent I know how much work you put into creating these roms. Hats off!

Even though I'm not as into the whole Windows Mobile thing as other people here, I like to play with my Kaiser, and after looking through all these threads in the upgrading forum, I believe the right thing for me to do is to wait for your 6.1 rom. (By the way, this might be stupid, but what's Dualtouch mean or stand for?)

A practical approach to stop leaks like this one from happening again, would be to hard code a tester tag in the roms as you give them out to testers (assuming your beta tester circle isn't too large, or you have some automated way to do this). Just like iTunes does with m4ps when you buy them in the iTunes store.

To everyone else: first off: I don't condone that behaviour, but please, get a grip. Nobody died, the world isn't coming to an end and, what's most important the Bushes won't be coming back ;). It's a rom for pete's sake. Reality check, please ;)

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the final version of this rom.

-Alex

PS. what I don't get is: who ever came up with naming it an 'rtm' build ? RTM stands for Release to manufacturers or Release to manufacturing. What's the point anyway?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] duncstar:
Ah dutty..

This is so wrong.. Here's me, waiting patiently for you 6.1 release, and then some fcuker comes along and ruins it for everybody. What a disrespecful yellow ass.

Sorry for the language, but it just gets to me..

COME ON DUTTY - What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Well said.

Dual Touch mean it has features* from the HTC Touch Dual ROM.

*someone always corrects me on this. but that's the general idea.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
I'm just upset that Dutty put that much time in this ROM and somebody has the audacity to do this. He gives it out for free. It's not like he charges for it.

I won't say another word about this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cptsunshine:
Thanks for the info. Don't mean to drive this too far off-topic, but I suppose that means things like the Cube, the Home plugin and the smaller gizmos like the title bar magnifier, etc.?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] caloyzki:
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[General Questions and Answers] dennisdenny:
Hello all,

I have tried looking for a solution for this problem, but none can be applied to my case, so here it is: I have a UMi Iron Pro, and after the screen cracked earlier this year, I ordered a new LCD + Digitizer. I have now replaced the screen, but when I turn it on, it only emits black light. The phone does charge (according to the notification light) and my laptop recognizes a USB device when I connect it. However, the phone is quite useless now...

So, does anyone know what could have caused this problem? I am happy with any input.

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[General Questions and Answers] guitarman8657:
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