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[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] theBeachBoy:
+1 I think MKDHD. The white is less grippy.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I know MKBHD mentioned it but it's not a huge difference in feel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] late8:
Downstairs feel as comfortable as it's cousin the V30
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] dan0326:
The phone feels comfortable with a solid build. But I have to thank the loopy case 4 providing a much more secure feel when holding and using the phone. I don't worry about dropping the phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] CrashTestDroid:
I hated how chunky my 2XL felt at first, compared to the old OP5 it is quite obese feeling. After a couple days it started to feel like my old shamu and we are getting along like old friends now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the Google Pixel 2 XL. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Google Pixel 2 XL's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.

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[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] late8:
Quite frankly poor overall. Second phone and the display is the best of many I have seen on other 2xls so im lucky
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Poor like on a sunny day you can't see what's in the view finder for the camera app? Cause I've never experienced that and I'm with Adaptive Brightness on 35%. It could be brighter but definitely not poor.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Google Pixel 2 XL's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.

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[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] srikanth003:
Amazing contrast. Here's my home screen. I love the ink blacks and icons standing out.

Wallpaper - Live Earth - Google wallpaper

Widgets - Weather timeline, Minimalist text - battery

Icons - Ergon

[IMG="https://i.imgur.com/Hl12YT7.png"]https://i.imgur.com/Hl12YT7.png[/IMG]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] realitysconcierge:
I'm kind of having the inverse experience. Rather than my phone showing a very dark gray in place of black, it is instead showing black where there should be very dark grays including other colors as well. I see people referring to this as "black crush".
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] sharkoparko:
Mine is the same. Returning it. The 3 display color options solved nothing. Back too good old pixel XL
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] mwboost:
My non xl pixel 2 is aweful. Not so much in pictures but video it's more noticeable. Videos sometimes are unwatchable because the crushing looks terrible at night or in dark rooms. Sometimes I can see it pulsing in the background and whatnot with small movements in the video.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Google Pixel 2 XL's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jtwlbz:
Checked out the xl2 at verizon. Colors seems having too much black. Still has greenish color shifting in some viewing angle
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jedras95:
Colors seemed washed out, much less vibrant than Note8. I will try to upload few comparison pictures later today
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] juicemane141997:
Yes couldn't agree more, my pixel XL 2 is so washed out I'm tempted to switch back to my note 8!!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jedras95:
Here are some of the comparison photos
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] cwalker0906:
Compared to a over saturated Samsung it probably does look washed out, in the picture posted, look at the hearts, the pixel looks red and you can see how oversaturated the Sammy is
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jedras95:
Well in contrast, look at the beach on both photos. When I looked at both side by side, Pixel definitely lacked saturation in my opinion. I guess it comes down to personal preference but I never understood why people wouldn't like Samsungs saturation. Makes everything look much nicer, and if one wants to mute colors, there are a bunch of profiles in the settings as well as adjustments for individual colors. When you lack saturated colors like on this Pixel to begin with, you can't just bring more color out that easily.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Goatshaver:
The Verizon I went to had it setup with some preloaded messages, didn't actually get to see the OS and working screens. My comparison would be to the numbers the display is measured at, delta E, gamma, etc,... that is the only true measurement of color accuracy.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jvillalo:
A similar post on Reddit mentioned that the Pixel 2 XL is set to sRGB mode by default, and that there was a toggle to make it more vibrant somewhere in the display settings. It would be interesting to see the same comparison with that toggle set to "On" with the Pixel (assuming that the info is good, and that the toggle exists at all).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jedras95:
That's true, there was a switch "Vibrant Colors" under Display settings but it was turned on at the one I checked
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] robstunner:
Google devices have been historically very accurate with the screen colors. Going from LG/Samsung will be noticable.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Rakeesh_j:
People tend to get that way these days because of the way televisions are sold with the brightness and color saturation practically maxed out. This results in super unrealistic colors that tend to offset your idea of what "good" is while killing off subtle image details in the process. Samsung seems to like to do the same thing with phones, perhaps based on the same mindset that their TV guys use: Make things flashy.

In the showroom it may boost sales, but when I take my TV home, the first thing I do is tone all of that down to make sure the color balance is more realistic. For example, I want grass to look like grass would be colored, not neon-green. sRGB mode on Google's phones is nice because it does that for you, without needing any color filters and test patterns.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] robstunner:
YES. So. Many. Times. This.

I shake my head when I see people show off their new TV's with sharpness at 100 and vivid color profiles with bright colors and cool temp selected. More power to do what u want with your stuff, but it just looks rediculous.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] georgiapi:
As a photographer using calibrated displays and a Photoshop user, don't make up your mind on Webb posts. And I want a natural and sRGB.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gulaak805:
Love the super saturated colors. This is coming from a normal consumer without any "expertise" in anything related to the subject matter. My eyes like it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] zathus:
I despise the over-saturation Sammy does. This is good news to me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] manners400:
This is funny because although I was only able to see the the Pixel 2 screen (non XL) I'm positive both will have great displays. I do like Samsung displays however I hate when the over saturation shows the absolutely wrong color. But not too long ago the Samsung S8 & S8+ displays had a red & purple tint on the white screen. And that was actually a very prevalent issue which was fixed by a software update. After seeing the Pixel 2 display I thought it looked good.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
I have read that the display on the Pixel 2 XL has a bluish tint when viewed off angle and that the LG V30, which is said to have the same display as the Pixel 2 XL, has screen uniformity issues.

I went to my local Verizon yesterday to play with the phone and see for myself. The bluish tint off angle is absolutely there. It didn't bother me but it might bother some. As far as screen uniformity I didn't see any issues. At least not with the display phone. I tested with light gray and dark gray backgrounds at high and low screen brightness and I used my hands to block out room lighting as best as I could.

Color saturation looked good to me. A bit more saturated than my Nexus 5X I used as a side by side comparison.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] murso74:
The verge panned the v30 display in their review today. This isn't looking good
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] robstunner:
I thought the tech community panned the verge years ago
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] murso74:
Ive never heard much bad about verge. Giz, Engadget, tech crunch, but not the verge
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] FMXP:
There's actually not that much wrong with the iVerge as long as you account for their Apple bias.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] murso74:
The only site that I ever noticed a heavy bias on was tech crunch. That seigler guy was ****ing horrible. Oh, and BGR, but that site is a complete joke
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] eep2378:
Comparison shots from AP review

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=74192128&postcount=127
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] robstunner:
They used to be heavily biased. Just Google iverge
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] rkial:
Does turning Vivid mode on make any difference?

Is there any option under developer settings to turn sRGB off like the original pixels (had to be turned on in that)?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] rajendra82:
I am yet to receive my Pixel 2XL, but I can share my experience with sRGB mode my Nexus 6P, and let you do the same test I did. As you know, the 6P ships with sRGB mode off, and hidden behind developer mode by default. When I first turned it on, I was extremely disappointed by the washed out looking colors, and was convinced that the default mode was more accurate. Then I took a screenshot and copied it and a wallpaper I had downloaded to my computer, which is hooked up to a decent LCD panel set in a relatively neutral basic mode.

Then I pulled up the same images on my phone and computer, and held the screens side by side. To my amazement, the sRGB mode which I thought was dull and washed out, was actually very close to the way the images looked on my computer, but with sRGB mode off, the imaged were way oversaturated on the phone and inaccurate. I then pulled up some webpages on my son's iPhone and on the 6P, and the look was close with sRGB on.

My conclusion is that the sRGB mode is objectively better, but the default mode is subjectively perceived as better in isolation if you are only used to the way it looks and fools the eyes. I have gone back and forth with both modes on my phone over the past 2 years, and each time, the sRGB mode initially looks dull and washed out, but after a day or two my eyes do get used to the more accurate look, and it looks just fine after that. Going the other way however takes much less transition time, and the inaccurate but punchy mode starts to look good very quickly.

I liken this phenomenon to eating some correctly and delicately seasoned food after getting used to eating overly spiced version of the same dish. Initially the overloaded taste buds perceive the delicately seasoned version as bland, but over time the taste buds adjust, and I begin to appreciate the subtle flavors that become more evident in the version as the recipe intended. Going back the other way takes less time in transition, because the punchy, spicy, flavors quickly are evident, although the version I am tasting now is not following the recipe as it should. Just like spiciness, there is a correct standard of color saturation, defined by the sRGB standard. Punchy, oversaturated modes may look good, but they are not showing the subtle gradients in the images, like they should.

I am a bit concerned about blue color shifting being an issue, but if it is only apparent at tilts beyond normal viewing angles, and is due to having a polarizing layer that improves outdoor visibility, I can live with that. I have zero concern about the grain notes by Ars Technica at 0% brightness in a dark room, because every phone screen looks horrible in that setting, and I have never used my phone that way.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] BabeShaq:
All the news about "washed out" screen excites me so much! First thing I do with the Google phones is turning the sRGB option on. It was quite good on 6p. On the original Pixel xl i had to turn on sRGB and then play with kcal a little to brighten the whites. I like to get it as close as possible to my Dell monitor's colors. Can't look at those oversaturated screens for more than 2 minutes.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Redrockzz:
For everyone who is complaining about the screen, read this:

"We designed the Pixel display to have a more natural and accurate rendition of colors this year but we know some people prefer more vivid colors so we've added an option to boost colors by 10% for a more saturated display. We're always looking at people's responses to Pixel and we will look at adding more color options through a software update if we see a lot of feedback."

This was a feedback from the google support to customers, who complained about the screen in the 2xl.

The main issue are washed out colors and this is imo a software issue, which can be fixed in the future ;)

So dont worry about the screen on this phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] dbrohrer:
I don't think that's the main issue. But yes that is the only issue that can be fixed via software.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] mhsbrian:
Another echo chamber, c'mon guys. It's so obvious the difference here is personal preference on color saturation. The facts are, if you want an extra wide color gamut not of reality and want to see photos that don't look anything like they do but on YOUR phoneand other samsung devices, then Samsung can definitely offer you that. But if you care about viewing what others are gonna see if you say view an image on a laptop or desktop for editing or shared on social media the pixel 2 XL is going to display more accurate colors.

I have an S8+, if you put your s8+ in cinema mode or basic and compare it to the pixel 2 XL your going to see just how similar the screens are at producing quality picture, it's really down to software tweaking and personal preference past that.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] lifeisfun:
And you consider Note 8 natural colors ? :laugh:

Living in Disney world ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] YoungSkeezy:
They aren't 'washed out' I definitely believe my note 8 screen is better, and the black levels on the Pixel are higher, but this issue is way too overblown.

Its a good display. Not a great one, but also not remotely a BAD one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Redrockzz:
To sum everything up.

The issue here is, that we arent able to turn sRGB off on the 2 XL (maybe it will be possbile in the future.) But this is software related and can be fixed!!

Just look at this video for a comparison between v30, OG pixel and pixel 2 xl:

https://youtu.be/EqDDYFyxZYo

and here:

https://www.androidcentral.com/relax-about-pixel-2-xl-display
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] stinger4321:
My nexus 6 has the same tint issue.. but its 2014 tech...lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] rajendra82:
Got my phone in hand and tested display side by side with the Nexus 6P. With sRGB mode turned on on the 6P and vivid mode turned off on the 2XL, the saturation and accuracy are almost the same with the 2XL showing a little bit more contrast. When viewed off angle, the 2XL display did turn a shade bluish, but at similar viewing angles the 6P display had a grayish tint and a shimmery rainbow appearance. Neither one of these off angle issues viewing has bothering me in the past 2 years, so the Pixel​ 2XL display will most likely serve me just fine for from now on. At normal brightness (50% with adaptive on is what I like) there was absolutely no graininess apparent to me. When I turned the sRGB mode off on the 6P, the change in saturation was immediately apparent, while the vivid mode on change on the 2XL was so subtle, I could never tell if it was toggled on unless I actually checked the setting. I think the software fix is to make the vivid mode vivider, and the Samsung Super AMOLED level saturation lovers will be happy.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Napa7m:
All the noises being made about color saturation is just a non issue. The color looks great. It looks very natural and precise. It has the quality of viewing of a $2000+ calibrated PC monitor. That being said, If you prefer the Samsung over saturated mess, then you might not like this phone's display.

The weird thing about the screen, is the graininess. It's noticeably granny when compared side by side with my N6P. Im not sure if this is the reason for the grain - but It reminds me of the anti-glare filter appearance you also sometimes see on high end PC monitors (the Dell u3011 had the same look).

I'm not sure how I feel about it yet.

The off-angle blue tint is also a non-issue in my opinion.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] chris11882:
I admittedly had some worries about the color issue, but after about 10 minutes of having the sRGB enabled on my 6p, I'm finding that I greatly prefer the more accurate color representation. Later I put my 6p next to a 2xl at Verizon, and it is very similar. In the past I have never really noticed, or thought about, the color saturation that is found on most phones. Definitely comes down to personal preference.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] whodatfan:
lol
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] claudermilk:
Colors look neutral and correctly calibrated. It will look dull for those used to oversaturated screens, but to my eye (used to colorimeter-calibrated PC monitors) it looks good. Yes, there is a bit of blue shift off-axis, but how often is a phone used off-axis? Even then, it's not terrible and the information is perfectly visible.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] haz3lnut:
The blue tint at barely a 10 degree tilt is disappointing.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] rsbenedict:
I must have one of the better screens as I don't notice it much. It's there, but not bothersome or really noticeable unless you are focusing on it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Valnomien:
Does somebody know what the ADB command is so I can change the vibrant 10% to something like 30%
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] rajendra82:
Changing saturation would require a custom kernel or a system app that could access the cooler profile. It is not something that could be done through ADB I think.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Shawheim:
That new update is out and gives you new color profiles including saturation. Works pretty good!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] rsbenedict:
A new Google update? How'd you get it?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Shawheim:
I just went to check for update and it's there. It's almost 60mb but it adds the 3 color codes and the fading out nav buttons.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Shawheim:
Here are the version numbers and color profiles.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] rajendra82:
New color profile of saturated should stop the whining over the sRGB mode. As for me it looks like someone puked over the screen. The default is boosted, which I assume is the same as old vivid (sRGB + 10%), and natural is old default sRGB with vivid toggle off. Boosted straddles the line between sRGB and DCI-P3 (about sRGB + 25%). I keep going back and forth between boosted and natural. I do wish Google would have also added a color temperature option and a gamma slider too, as the default D67 illuminant is a bit cool compared to sRGB standard D65, and the default gamma is a bit too cranked up. Toning them both down would get this to the more pleasing iPhone X profile.

I can't be 100% sure but the default seems a bit more calibrated to sRGB standard than before. I held it next to computer monitor with the adaptive brightness off, and the colors in natural mode look almost identical, which I don't think was the case before. I think they have also tones down the white gradient on the launcher home screens, which was giving that washed out look before. It seems a bit less white at the bottom. It's possible the original gradient was for not having the navbar buttons burn in, but is no longer needed to this degree with the new fading built in.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I tried Saturated for a handful of hours and it's a bit too much for my liking. Went back to Boosted (Old vivid). I am curious if they did make changes to Natural and Boosted.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] KennyG123:
Still no update available to me :(

Also still September patch on mine.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] idkwhothatis123:
It is amazing to me that we can have all these features from custom roms, yet companies cannot employ them. For god sakes, give us the ability to choose our own color preferences. There should be presets, but then have a custom button where we can adjust our own RGB and gamma values. TV's have had this function for years upon years. Yet, we cannot have something so simple on our phones?

Saturated looks like straight poop. Whites go from overly cool to overly warm, and red hued colors are intensely over saturated. I cannot wait for kcal support and usage.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Goatshaver:
I'm sure they've thought of it, but it's just something that's never been a priority for them to develop because people didn't really care about it that much.

I'd love to see it available as an option. :D I work with professionally calibrated monitors everyday where color is key. There is an app and equipment for calibrating you phones display. I've not used this on my phone and would't spend that kind of money on it, unless you need it for photography or some graphic work to show clients, etc...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] sirlinux03:
This saturated screen is so overrated. Colors are so fake they look fluorescent, and that's on 50% brightness. With 100% brightness is impossible to look at.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] xKTx:
I agree. I compared my Pixel 2 XL screen's to my brother's Note 8 and I definitely preferred the pixel's screen. The note's screen gave me headache after just few minutes of using it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] MrWilsonxD:
Did you try plugging it in then hitting check for updates? After spamming the update button for hours, doing that at 100% on charger got me an immediate update. First try.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] KennyG123:
Dozens of times!

Google says it will take a week to hit everyone...you would think FI users would be first in line :(

However anyone looking for the OTA it is now on Google servers