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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Something much thinner than 1000. It's hard to tell you what glue as these are all specially formulated glues to balance between strength and viscosity
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] datder:
Has anyone tried a Loca installation with a tempered glass protector that doesn't have the cutout where the camera/sensors and earpiece is?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] lennie:
It's been some days now. Awaiting your video demonstration of how "extremely slow and extremely hard go remove" loca 1000 is.

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For the earpiece I'd say wipe with isopropyl rubbing alcohol then use toothbrush to get in between the grills

For the spen slot I have no idea if it would cause damage but given the phone is ip68 I don't think it would....but I don't know.

I don't think the glue should be that far inside so maybe try putting some alcohol on a q-tip (not soaked to where it's dripping, but damped)......while the phone is off and make sure it's dried before turning it back on just to be on the safe side.

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I haven't tried any of those yet because I believe its too hard to work with loca and use those kinds of glass so I've only used the ones with the cut out.

If you're going to use the one without the cutout then I guess you'd need to cut small pieces of tape to cover the camera, earpiece grill, and sensors...small enough that it fits or is smaller than the round cutouts of the glass but not so small that it doesn't cover the things. Now after install the hard part and problem is removing the tape.

I would guess you'd need tweezers small enough to reach inside the round cutouts to grab and remove the small tapes.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Hi sorry about that. Was busy recently with some website migration.

Managed to do up this video first:

LOCA 1000 vs LOCA 2500: Are they suitable for a Full Adhesive Tempered Glass for your Samsung Note 8, S8 or S8 Plus?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] naamloos:
Just got my 2 IMIDO protectors in, both have dot matrix, maybe the vendors haven't changed supplier but the manufacturer changed the spec.

Dot matrix is less noticable than it is with my current "full cover" TGSP (the other type a lot of vendors in aliexpress sell that covers all sensors/cameras and only has an opening for the earpiece). The spacing between the dots is a lot bigger so there are a lot less dots on the TGSP in total, I've tried taking pictures to show the difference but can't get my Note 4 or 8 to focus on the dot matrix unfortunately. Once I've installed the IMIDO one with LOCA I'm pretty sure the dots won't really be as noticable as on my current non-LOCA installed TSGP.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Here is part 2 of the video.

LOCA 1000 destroyed my Samsung Galaxy Note 8

https://youtu.be/c_MI-7_tfbA
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] naamloos:
Where the LOCA 1000 and 2500 similar in terms of manufacturer/supplier/brand? Because when I watched your first video I thought I'd made a mistake buying LOCA 2500 instead of 1000 but after this video I'm happy I didn't. Not that I know anything about LOCA but it seems strange to me that one type of LOCA would be easily removable without really leaving much residue while the other completely destroys your phone if only the viscosity is different, to me it seems like the type/quality of the glue is completely different.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] p2user:
How long did you leave the screen protector with loca 1000 before trying to take off? Reason I ask is that I tried the loca 1000 with a tgsp on some hard plastic to play around to see what it's like before attempting on my note8 and it came off get similar to your video for loca 2500. Currently I have loca 1000 on my note 8 for about a month now, hopefully when I do need to remove the tgsp it wouldn't be like your video.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] wepa:
So get the 2500 **** I just ordered the 1000

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Hi yes they were similar. LOCAs are formulated based on viscosity, strength, pliability and many more. The standard ones on the market are 1000 and 2500. The reason why these are readily available is due to the fact they were used in the past for LCD display repairs.

When your glass on your display cracks, we cut it off and paste a new piece of glass. In this case a stronger longer like 1000 or 2500 is needed as compared to just placing a tempered glass on your display.

Even in the past, we knew that 2500 was easier to rework. Yupz we need to redo the display when something goes wrong but we did not expect 1000 to be like that.

We have removed many LOCA 1000 in the past but the main reason this happened always because the glue in the middle of the display is too thin as it spreads out to the edges. So when we need to force our card through 5o cut away the LOCA, it stopped there. And cracked the tempered glass instead.

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It was on for about 2 hours before removing it off. To be honest, this batch of LOCA 1000 was the strongest I met so far. Lol.

Perhaps it just came out from the factory but in general LOCA 1000 I personally feel is too strong for this application.

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If you have the patience, loca 2500 will work but you have to leave it for almost 2 hours for it to spread without any external pressure.

LOCA 2500 stinks. Haha its smell is even worse than LOCA 1000.... (on a side note)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] wepa:
Any links to a good loco glue brand that you use

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] wepa:
I bought this 30ml LOCA UV GLUE - Xfactor Sticky-Icky1000 PROFESSIONAL Grade Liquid Optical Clear Adhesive - ULTRA LOW Viscosity 1000mPas (Black Lightproof Tube) !!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FRUDV36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] CBMC:
That is the glue that was just quoted as ruining a note 8 screen by bonding too strongly to the screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] wepa:
I'm sending it back

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] CBMC:
Others have used it. Don't know if all of the stuff is created equal. Just a heads up.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] wepa:
Ain't nobody helping me out with a link to what they have used

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] CBMC:
I think most have used either the sticky icky 1000 or the 2500. I don't think either is ideal. We need to figure out a slightly stronger version of what whitestone uses. That viscosity works pretty well. I have a Google pixel and am just trying to find a good piece of glass. I would probably be willing to try the 1000 or 2500 over having to use the crap edge adhesive screen protectors. Unfortunately, I can't find a curved full glass protector that doesn't have the black borders for that phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] wepa:
I'm going to try the one I got on a spare phone it's the sticky icky 1000

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] CBMC:
Thought about doing that but didn't know if I could find a phone that had a mostly plain glass that wasn't loaded with adhesive.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Honestly someone asked me if it could be a bad batch of LOCA 1000 that I got. My personal experience is that with LOCA 1000 it is close to impossible to pull it up by hand. Not sure if others have the same experience.

Once it is not possible to pull up by hand, it will mean that you have to get some card or some alcohol in to soften it or a thin metal string.

When the middle portion had too little loca for my card to even go through, I knew I was in for trouble and removal was going to be very difficult.

Some loca 1000 may be made differently but will you ever know? I rather be using 2500 though it is more viscous than 1000.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] CBMC:
Have you tried heating the loca?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Yupz in the middle of my video. :) 120 degrees Celsius.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Lyspaere:
That is *NOT* the LOCA in the video.

I've used the LOCA linked by wepa. Haven't tried (or needed) to remove the TGSP I installed, so I can't speak to ease of removal. Just wanted to clarify that it isn't the same as in the 1000 vs 2500 video.

Tapatalked from my Sprint GN8
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
LOCA is graded in the market by its viscosity. So having 1000 means it has a cps of 1000 while 2500 means a cps of 2500 which means it is thicker.

Just to clarify, take viscosity of water at 1 and honey say at 500.

Of course not all loca are made the same but these loca are made for almost the same purpose with slightly varying strengths. Some may be slightly weaker than others some stronger as different manufacturers mix them slightly differently.

However, they will tend to be more difficult to remove in general and if you take 10 different manufacturers loca 1000 vs 2500 from 10 manufacturers, you tend to get the same removal effect with a little degree of variation in strength.

I cannot speak for the one that was recommended but this is my personal experience with LOCA 1000 and 2500.

And if it helps just one person in here, I am happy. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] CBMC:
Sorry, I realize now that it isn't the same. I might get some of the sticky icky 1000 loca and try testing it on some generic glass on a old phone. Any idea where i can get some flat non adhesive screen protector to do some trial and error with?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] CBMC:
Is your company actively working on creating loca applied screen protectors? Is so, any plan on the pixel xl2? The market is pretty thin on good tempered glass options.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
I tried it before for 2 pieces of tempered glass but I found out that the strength of removal is different. The main reason is that the Samsung Note 8, S8 or S8 plus has a very strong Oleophohic Coating on the display which makes the removal process easier.

For most flat tempered glass on the market, their Oleophohic Coating will not be as strong as the Samsung phone. :) which makes the test unreliable.

Try searching for lower viscosity LOCA to see if you can find it. They tend to be lower in strength.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Actually we are. We should be launching it at www.sgfreshidea.com in the next few days.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] CBMC:
Good to hear. Guessing you have found a good adhesive that is stronger than Whitestone but not as strong as commercially available adhesive?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Dragonchi:
What was the thickness used to get volume?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] yoyobabyyo:
Are there anymore recommendations for TGSP without dot matrix?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Hi there. You can try those loca based tempered glass. The LOCA will make any dot matrix invisible.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Almighty1:
Have a question, I noticed what you have on the website is similar to the other TGSP where there is no protection for the area above and next to the speakers, don't those need protection too?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Hi there. The cutting differs for phones. Which model are you referring to?

Of course the amount of coverage differs from customer to customer :) it is more of a personal preference haha
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Almighty1:
The model is the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 ofcourse since I thought that was implied as this is the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories forum. I thought it was harder to use LOCA when there will be holes for the camera and speaker on the glass, not to mention the LOCA glue will be on top of the sensors.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Hi there. Lol was using Tapatalk so did not see the forum I was in as we are in multiple sub forums. Apologies on that.

If our installation method is used, where if there are holes and no pressure is applied., the LOCA will flow around the holes not over it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Almighty1:
Never knew Tapatalk didn't show what forum it was for but anyways, I am not asking about your method used but since you also sell the Tempered Glass Screen Protector, both the LOCA based ones including yours and the ones from Zagg that are Full Adhesive seems to not have coverage for the Note 8 in the area where the sensor camera lens and speaker area which I noticed was available with the edge only protectors like the one from AmFilm for example. I am hoping to find one that has coverage in that area that is completely transparent without the black borders.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] whiteangelcl:
Ah ha. We don't have that though. We only have the type that is opened at the top. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Almighty1:
Yeah, come to think of it. It'll be a pain with LOCA glue since how will you be able to glue that part without messing up the sensors or lens. Maybe the other reason is the bottom of the phone is heavier so usually it will hit the other areas first.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] xn3m:
I ordered clear and black just to try
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] meanhacker:
Hi, recently I've seen a lot of users asking the same basic question, so I decided to make a quick formal tutorial on how to edit your grub.cfg file that is installed with Phoenix OS. I haven't had to install Phoenix OS on a USB flash drive, so you're going to have to find the grub.cfg file on the USB drive and edit it. The following instructions are for Windows OS (I used Windows 10 as an example)

Instructions:

Open the Start Menu and type in cmd. Right-click "Command Prompt" and click on Run as administrator:

[IMG="Launching Command Prompt as Administrator"]https://i.imgur.com/suKP0do.png[/IMG]

Command Prompt window appears. Make sure it says "Administrator" (circled in red) or else you won't be able to complete the procedure. Type in the following commands:

mountvol X: /s
X:
EFI\Boot\grub.cfg

[IMG="Mounting the EFI partition"]https://i.imgur.com/Ku9TCWa.png[/IMG]

A window should open up allowing you to modify your grub.cfg file. If Windows doesn't recognize the file type, just select Notepad from the program list. I prefer to use Notepad++ and this is what you will see in the screenshot:

[IMG="Viewing and editing the grub.cfg file"]https://i.imgur.com/KVWAHmj.png[/IMG]

There are a number of modifications that you can do to this file:

Change timeout

Add menu entries

Add boot parameters

Once you are done modifying the file, save it and close it. To unmount the EFI partition, run this command:

mountvol X: /d

[IMG="Unmounting the EFI partition"]https://i.imgur.com/2kpVwdh.png[/IMG]

When you restart the computer, the GRUB menu should reflect your changes.

History:

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[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] GadSick:
Please help me changing the resolution. I have recently installed this OS on my laptop and screen went dead. I tried plugging through VGA and resolution is not shown correctly. The native resolution of display inbuilt in laptop is 1920x1080 but my monitor resolution through VGA is 1366x768. PhoenixOS is unable to show correct resolution. Changing resolution and DPI in settings wont work.
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] HikaNaru:
not working

not working, get error 'The parameter is incorrect.'

i cant use /s parameter on my command prompt
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] Voenix:
For me it works without /S Parameter :)
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] popy2006:
i dont have a grub.cfg file there.

I usally start RebootToPhoenixOS.bat from C:\Program Files\phoenixstart.

Is there a way to make phoenixos permanent?
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] emjimadhu:
I'm not sure whats the exact problem is, but I think you installed it in c drive.

Try to install it on seperate partition using phoenix is installer. It will install a grub so that you can choose boot.

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Thank you so much that worked perfectly fine!! I have triple boot. I hate to select phoenix OS on phoenix grub even after I selected in Ubuntu grub. So this made me remove windows entry and timeout to 0. Note my lappy is perfect. Thanks once again.
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] popy2006:
Thanks, already done it this way.

Removed windows, set phoenix OS to default and 0 sec timeout.

pOpY
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] ejamavisca:
Can anyone help me and let me know how can I edit and modify grub.cfg file in Windows 7? The method described doesn't work on Windows 7. I'm not an expert and I got totally lost. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks

Enviado desde mi PAR-LX1 mediante Tapatalk
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] AK.blackhock:
Gnu grub fixed

CHECK THIS OUT

youtu.be/-I8nP2rh5R0

JUST pest this link in you address bar.

i have sholved this issue

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i have fixed it

https:// youtu.be/-I8nP2rh5R0
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] dfalconer84:
grub edit

any way to do this where no windows partition exists?

i have installed as stand alone on small netbook and i have to modify grub at boot every time to get keyboard to work.

any advice would be greatly appreciated
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] Passionsfarm:
Me to !! Phönix is Single/Main/Only OS

I have the Same Problem withe the hardware Keyboard @ my Hp Stream. We have to del the part " i8042.nokbd=1" @ cfg. and save.

After this all Problems withe hardware(intern) Keyboard are done!!!
[Phoenix OS News, Q&A & Development] YosoyJuano:
How do You change they grub.cfg file? I install Phoenix OS in the HD and not find this file un nowhere... I have a HP Stream...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] drtweak:
So. I am going on 3 years with the Turbo. I love this phone. Everything about it (Wish we had a custom N rom with VoLTE but that is it). I have a 64 and a 32gb back up (currently running 32 as 64 being stupid) and only one good screen between the two.

My wife has the Pixel XL which I do like, but the three things that keep me tied to this phone are: Hardware Home Keys, the IR sensors is a HUGE must after having this phone, and the Chop/twist which i'm sure there is an app for on other phones and she keeps telling me the phone isn't going to last forever XD

I just see the forums here dwindle down to almost nothing the past few months so makes me wonder how many people have moved on. I honestly don't care for the the new Moto phones. Too light, don't like the look or feel, its just meh. The attachments seem cool but don't need them. With the Pixel 2 out now and that will drive the Pixel 1 price down it makes me wonder if I should get one (Through google of course because i wanted my unlocked BL and Root) but I just can't seem to give this phone up! Both of these guys are having issues and i'm determined to fix them this weekened. Wouldn't mind buying another screen or even another phone if i had the 100 bucks. I'd rather buy a few backups than a new phone.

I just wanted to see what everyone's opinion is. Do you still have a Turbo. If you don't what did you move to and if you do how is working for you and do you plan on getting rid upgrading soon? Because honestly this phone is still powerful for what I do.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
The Quark was cutting edge back end of 2014 and until this year, and I seriously mean until this year (2017) there wasn't anything released that really surpassed it. Sure there were phones with iteratively faster CPUs each year -- but until this year with Snapdragon 835 and phones coming with standard 4GB RAM (and some 6GB RAM), the 2014 Quark 3GB RAM still ruled even if it had the older Snapdragon 805. Plus all the hardware specs it has -- 1440p AMOLED, Qi wireless charging, 3900 mAh battery, 64GB internal memory (on my XT1225), 21MP camera (even though it has no rear camera OIS) kept it competitive with newcomers the past couple of years.

But the 2017 Snapdragon 835 is really a "next gen" CPU chipset however, not only with speed but with the 1 gigabit LTE speed modem.

In 2015, I won an AT&T LG G4 in a contest but sold it on eBay to buy a 3rd Quark for backup purposes. The 1440p LG G4 had a faster Snapdragon 808 CPU (and I added a Qi wireless back cover), but overall just didn't have all the features of the Quark. If the Quark didn't exist, that LG G4 would have been my favorite phone -- but I still would have sold that one to get a bootloader unlocked variant. ;)

There's a thread discussing all this over in the other Quark forum -- 2017 phones that we were looking forward to as possible replacements. We were going by leaks and rumors, and anticipated FANTASTIC phones! As the year went on, the phones actually released and were mostly disappointing (Z2 Force with no headset jack, OnePlus 5 with still mid-tier specs, Nokia with locked down bootloader) and the thread updated, it's basically come down to the LG V30 for me. For [MENTION=5901115]TheSt33v[/MENTION], he's leaning toward the Pixel XL 2 (in spite of no headset jack). Many others participated too, of course. The thread lists all our criteria and why we are deciding on these phones.

You know:

1440p AMOLED

Qi wireless charging

headset jack

easily unlocked bootloader

at least 64GB internal memory

at least 4GB RAM, preferably 6GB

etc.

NEW Phones to replace 2014 Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx)?

So, probably going to buy the LG V30 in about 3 months -- AFTER the U.S. carrier unlocked version is released (mid-November) AND it gets added to the LG bootloader unlock list (probaby end of December). I'm not going to buy a phone I can't root on Day 1. I've already sold my 3rd still-new-in box Moto XT1225 on Swappa a couple of weeks ago. It was for emergency backup purposes, but now clearing the decks. I've already bought some LG V30 cases in anticipation.

My wife will still keep her Moto XT1225 as she still loves it, and still runs good. So, I'll still be in the Quark forums besides the V30.

The only reason I wouldn't buy the LG V30 is if the rumored ZTE Axon 9 (the successor to the 2016 ZTE Axon 7) just really nails all my wants and needs. Like if it's the LG V30 + stereo speakers. ;) Supposedly will be announced in October, and the ZTE Axon 7 has been out of stock on the ZTE USA website for a few weeks now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] jco23:
same here with both of you.

my next phone needs to have the quarks best features (Qi wireless charging, sensors for wave to wake, 3900 mAh battery) plus unlockable or at least rootable from day 1, and 3.5mm headphone jack (although this will not be the dealbreaker, but everything else prior is).

I'm willing to bet that we'll see Oreo (custom) on the quark before we see a device that is at least equivalent in specs.

but as of now, I'm content with CF MM ROM + xposed + GB + Oreo Launcher.