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[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Good points. [MENTION=3730810]Badger50[/MENTION] you have any advanced battery usage screenshots with the line graph? Don't think you've actually posted those but I could be wrong.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Here ya go my friend. I actually agree with you on the e-reader thing. I don't do anything special at all for battery life. It's just how use my phone at times. Things change drastically during the Summer when I help out on local farms for the needy folks. Then I'll get about half that since the phone is moving all the time and not on wifi during the day. I'm still wicked impressed though how well the P2XL manages the battery. I could never get that on my 6o :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Thanks. I was actually meaning this kind of screenshot. Where you can see the line graph and shows you didn't charge throughout the day.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Cool beans. Just went to recovery once to install a new kernelb:good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
[emoji1360][emoji1360] Amazing stuff. Maybe I should give that kernel a try. Been a while since I've flashed stuff like that. [MENTION=3731502]jimv1983[/MENTION] I think that's proof enough.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] antoine27:
Hi! Impressive duration of battery, what custom Kernel is that??:confused:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Flash kernel :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
I still don't understand how that's possible. I know it's possible to get better battery life than I get(turning off background sync, location, etc) but from all the screenshots and reports I've seen what I get is pretty typical compared to others.

If these screenshots are accurate that's double the typical battery life. DOUBLE!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Jinthegodstyle:
What kernel you use? :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Jinthegodstyle:
I thought you meant flash kernel, not that the name of kernel its Flash.. Hahaahahah
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
A lot of folks get confused on that one! ??
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
That's why we say flash flash kernel ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Jinthegodstyle:
It's very funny in all cases ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
March update:)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] noking:
March update
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] drvalianto:
Hi guys, is there a Rom that is preferred for the battery life (or kernel)? Or you just go with the Stock one?

I'm about to get the phone in few days and too excited for this awesome one :D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
You can try out few combos and see what's suits your usage

Recommend kernel is flash kernel, you cannot go wrong with it

Cheers ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] joeyac02:
What theme is that and how did you center clock?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Theme is swift black

And I'm using gravity box for center clock

Cheers ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] dieselhazza:
What is the most screen on time you can get without rooting or flashing? So pretty much on stock
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
I'm completely stock. No unlocked bootloader, no root, no custom ROM, etc. Basically if it's something that would cause warranty or insurance to deny my claim if they got the phone in that state then I don't do it.

The best I've ever done with battery life before the February update was 9 hours screen on time over a period of 32 hours. That's being on wifi all day and not doing battery intensive things like GPS navigation (although high accuracy location was on), games, camera, music, video, etc. Mainly just Facebook app, browser and texting.

After the February and March updates (each made battery life worse) my best battery life with the same usage as above is like 7 hours screen on time over like 18 hours off the charger.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] JesseZe:
Bad battery life

PLEASE HELP

Okay so my battery doesn't even get close to seven hours of screen on time. usually I end the day between 4 and 5.2 hours. I even tried using just installing only whatsapp on my phone and then basically all i do is watch some youtube and use whatsapp/mail and then i still cannot get passed 5.5 hours of screen on time. i tried factory resets. Google actually sent me multiple replacement units. I set location to battery saving and adaptive brightness off. does anyone have any clue what i'm doing wrong?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Not sure your doing anything wrong. SOT is dependant on many things....wifi, network signal(huge) apps, movement(can't doze) brightness, and usage patterns. If you suspect your getting unknown battery drain, use a monitoring app to determine what the cause is.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
First, welcome to the forums. Second, share some screenshots of your usage from the end of the day or when you get to something low like 15% or lower. Here are the 3 screenshots that would be helpful to access your usage. I was "only" 4.5 hours SOT but that was 29 hours off the charger which is great for me. I've gotten 8 hours SOT over 19.5 hours off the charger but that was a lot of forum browsing with WiFi available the whole time. Double digit SOT times aren't a common thing but they aren't impossible, they're just rare.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
In my experience signal strength doesn't seem to make much difference. I'm currently at 1hr 45min SOT with 6hr 30min off the charger at 79%. All I've really done is browsing while laying in bed so not much change in signal strength. At this rate I'd get like 8hr SOT over like 20 hours. My signal strength is currently -112dBm (that's pretty bad). I've been in areas with like -88dBm with similar use and the battery life wasn't noticably better.

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Wow. That's pretty bad. Especially based on the type of usage. With similar usage I'd probably be at like 30%.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
What's pretty bad to you is pretty good to me. ? As everyone says, your mileage may vary. Also, you've never provided a screenshot of your usages.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Actually I have posted screenshots of my usage in the past.

Here are a few screenshots I have at the moment. I didn't keep the app usage breakdown but I have in the past.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I've never seen you post them for the Pixel 2 XL but thanks for providing some. That's great usage. That's nothing to complain about.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
I actually have before.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=74421693&postcount=68

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=74463120&postcount=82

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=74840049&postcount=143

I'm not unhappy with the battery life overall just at how much it's decreased in the short time I've had the phone. It's been less than 5 months and I've already experienced decreased battery. Decreased battery life is something that's going to happen after a while just because batteries degrade over time. I was really hoping software issues weren't going to accelerate the battery life decrease. With the ridiculous cost, the fact that it has 2 years of warranty and 3 years of major updates I was planning on keeping it for at least two years and maybe as long as 3 years. If it's decreased this much this soon how bad will it be at the 1 year mark? The 2 year mark? Will the April update make it even worse? What about the next major update (Android P)? Will that be as bad as the L, M, N and O updates on my Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X?

Just the physics and chemistry of lithium batteries is going to make the battery degrade over time (I'm babying it as much as possible to limit that). I hate that software updates make it even worse.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Jinthegodstyle:
I agree.. I used for one Day in 5% brightness, only Facebook, Chrome and litle bit instagram and i have 3:30 hours SOT with 64% battery left. On Mate 10 pro or mi mix that i had i could easy have 5+ hours sot with this usage. The case is that screen drain too much power. I see on these 3:30 hours it used 700mah...on my other Phone screen was using 100 mah/1 hour SOT. And i didnt even put brightness on midle.. I think so this crap screen create this because on software everything its good and battery drain its perfect!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
LOL one screenshot was even a reply to me. But it had been months so I haven't seen anything recently. Anyway, unless you're truly able to replicate the usage from those old screenshots, it's tough to actually prove that you're battery life has really taken a hit. Especially when you're actually getting great SOT and off the charger numbers.

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Two totally different phones to compare SOT. Not just screens but Snapdragon 835 vs Kirin 970. Reviews pretty much confirm the Mate 10 Pro is a battery life beast.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Jinthegodstyle:
So how you call that other Phones was Using 100 mah per hour SOT and pixel its using 200 mah per hour? I think so amoled or p-oled how to call this its not battery friendly at all.. I prefer to have more SOT than dark Black view on screen. And i dont think so this can be fixed with any update.

By the way, Mate 10 pro had and still has the Best battery in flagship Phone i ever saw.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Like I just said in my reply, you're also comparing a Snapdragon processor vs a Kirin processor. Also, I heard the Mate 10 Pro aggressively closes apps. I was agreeing that the Mate 10 Pro has the best battery life. Me saying "battery life beast" is a good thing.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Jinthegodstyle:
But xiaomi mi mix had snapdragon processor also... And it was older than 835!it had 821!

I was using Mate 10 Pro for two months... Never had closed any app... Google pixel close and refresh almost every single app.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
And the Mi Mix had a 4400mAh battery. Well you're the first person I've heard saying that about the Mate 10 Pro. Reviewers complained about it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Jinthegodstyle:
Yep 4400 battery and a bigger screen. And my usage was with brightness on 20%not 5% like on pixel now. I am talking with facts, not what other People say. And i dont have reason to lie. I have sold my other devices and i am with pixel now. Just its kind of dissapointing the results comparing with other flagships. (i can compare also with 1+5t that have same cpu/gpu with the 1+5t having better results also.)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Because it has 1080 p screen

If pixel had that display we would be getting 5 hr sot by 50%
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I could be confusing it with another phone about the app closing.

Right. All 3 phones actually (Mate 10 Pro, Mi Mox, and 5t) have 1080p screens.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
It might be hard to replicate the exact same usage but close enough to know that I'm no longer able to get anywhere close to 9 hours screen on time over 36+ hours off the charger. Like 7.5 hours screen on time over like 20 hours is the best I can do now. That's not bad but certainly much worse than what I was getting for very similar usage.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] JesseZe:
Thanks a lot for the hello and for the help :) I forgot to take a picture of the screen on time but it was around 5.3 hours. I was of wifi for about five hours. I hope you can help me figure this out!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I know there's way higher SOT for the same off the charger time but that would be maybe low range of average. Yeah you only had 13 minutes of a game for 6% but you'll see majority of people with 6+ SOT don't have any gaming at all. Also, what's your display brightness set to? Is Adaptive Brightness on or off?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] JesseZe:
yeah but i've never seen more then 5.5 i think, even without gaming and only whatsapp installed. adaptive brightness is off, usually sits around 35% brightness.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Display brightness might be the factor for you. Compare 35% Adaptive Brightness on vs 35% Adaptive Brightness off, while indoors, Off is much brighter. So if you're indoors majority of the time, it might be to your advantage to either have Adaptive Brightness on or manually lowering it. For me in my indoor light I'm currently in, Adaptive Brightness on at 35% (Which I happen to keep set at daily) is roughly the equivalent to Adaptive Brightness off at 15%. That's a pretty big difference. And for me it's bright enough to see indoors and outdoors with Adaptive Brightness on 35%.

Update:

And in a brighter indoor area of the house, off at 23% looks to be the same. So still a lower setting than what you're at.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] JesseZe:
So did a day with no games just using it for email, youtube and some shopping i got even worse battery life. I felt that the brightness at 35 procent on adaptive brightness really wasn't enough in sunny situations and even at home i found the adaptive brightness on 100% sometimes a little too dim. any other suggestions?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] John31Gamer:
I get between 5-7h SOT.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Adaptive Brightness at 100% was too dim? You crazy. LOL. Really I just use it and if I get 6+ hours I'm pleasantly surprised. Also, you've had 15+ hours with 5.5 hours SOT. Use your phone more and you'll get to 6 hours fine.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] andrewjt19:
Has anyone experienced a drop in SOT since Feb Security Update? For two months I was getting around 4-5 hours of SOT with 40-50% battery left after being off the charger for 14-17 hours and now I can't get 5 hours of SOT without it being around 25-35% battery left. Nothing really changed in my behavior or apps list. The security update in February screwed it all up.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Yup definitely

Tried reset then get 2 days awesome battery and it's back to **** again
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] drvalianto:
Mildly satisfied.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] andrewjt19:
Do you mind posting what apps you have installed? Also are you running any tweaks like Magisk, Modules, Greenify, kernel tweaks, etc.? Honestly, I to the point where I'd rather do an insurance claim and hope for a phone with 8.0 installed or at least before February Security Update installed. I literally changed nothing but the OTA's for Feb and March and the battery went down the tube.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Msean.o:
The numbers speak for themselves, man.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Impressive but how about the apps below and the graph view when talking the battery.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] drvalianto:
I forgot to take a screenshot of what apps using the battery, but generally most of the time YouTube, a bit gaming, then facebook, phone call, camera, chrome. Literally just those most basic apps. I did root the phone using Magisk then Flash kernel. That's all. Stock Oreo with March update.

Battery usage depends on many other factors I think, like signal, Data + wifi mixture, hard to tell.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] andrewjt19:
Thanks for the reply.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] drvalianto:
This is the best since I had an Android phone ever. Loving this phone!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Good stuff. Thanks for including more screenshots for a better idea of your usage.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
I miss the days of getting that kind of battery life. I was getting similar to your battery life from the day I got the phone until early February and then I got the February update and it dropped. And then the March update made it even worse.

Now the best I'm getting is maybe a little over 6 hours screen on time over maybe a day. And even that isn't doing anything really battery intensive.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
+1
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] drvalianto:
Wow you just made me worried now. I've had the phone for only a month. Hopefully, it will still do fine after a while :finger-crossed:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
It was specifically two of the monthly security updates. Are you running the latest security update? What kind of battery life are you getting right now?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] drvalianto:
I'm always going for the latest, which is March for now. Battery life is still similar to what I posted above; 7-8hrs of SOT; it lasts for around 2 days on light use.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] dane1312:
Here is my SOT
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] varunit:
Got a new pixel 2 XL. One day old and I'm getting only ~3.5 SOT :( Not a heavy user.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
First, sounds like you're only on your first or second charge cycle. Keep using it to get the battery "broken in".

Second, did you use Duo for a near 30 minute video chat? Cause that a decent drain for sure.

Third, at 25% left you could've still gotten at least another hour maybe 1.5 hour SOT. Considering you had over 15 hours off the charger already, that's pretty good.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] varunit:
yes I'm on day 2 today. will continue to evaluate the battery performance.

1. Turned off location services for unnecessary apps

2. Turned off background usage for Duo and , android system application (not sure if this is recommended though).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Hans_95:
HELP ! My SOT sucks :(

Hey! Brand new to this site so bare with me! Just got my pixel XL 2 three weeks ago. Absolutely loving the phone it's great but my SOT hasn't been getting close to what you guys are reaching. I'm absolutely mind blown at people reaching 6 or 7... I've been reach 3-4 SOT that's it and I'm not a super heavy user. Please help me out guys, I hope I don't have a battery malfunction. Currently 7:26 pm, have 11% and 4 solid hours SOT.. 16 hours since last charge.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
You know you won't be able to get incoming calls for Duo if you do that for Duo. Not sure what the affects would be for Android System application. Didn't think it would even let you do that.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Really the easiest way to break 5 hours is use your phone more. You might get a little less off the charger time or you can start off 100% before you go to sleep to get an off the charger "head start".
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] varunit:
I'm getting incoming calls in Duo after disabling the background usage. Android System application did let me disable background usage. Right now its the number one app listed if I select show full device usage from the settings. Please note that the Duo usage is only audio today. I didn't make any video calls. :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Interesting you still get incoming calls. Well either way, Duo doesn't use any battery in the background.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Forgot to post my screenshot.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] richii0207:
Apps syncing, screen brightness, CPU & GPU usage, reception, wifi vs no wifi, background apps running concurrently like music or downloading, what's on the screen while using (black screen or white screen, reading a book or video streaming), power saving mode, video consumption, vibration settings (vibrate on press), AOD, always listening, bluetooth enabled, internet on or off, airplane mode, multitasking, battery saving mode, time off charger, widgets, live wallpapers, plus much much more can affect your usage.

TLDR; Our phones all have the same mAh. If there's a difference, then it's usage. You cannot compare your usage with another person's, like a car. Drivers get all sorts of different MPG from the same vehicle, one month I may get 35 and another month 25.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] dane1312:
Getting better wow!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] varunit:
I still feel mine as terrible. Of course I used Maps and Daydream but only for a limited time.

These are from 4th cycle.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Terrible!? Don't forget to consider your off the charger time. At that rate you'll get "only" 4 hours SOT but possibly 36 hours off the charger. That's very light use to me. Use your phone more and you'll get more SOT.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
?? You kidding? People here are ready to do anything to get those results
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
It's like Ez keeps telling you all, SOT is far to subjective to be taken too seriously. Usage patterns, apps, cell signal, and movement have various effects. My screen shots reflect what a light user can get. I don't use many apps as you can see. 8 of those hours were in the car with bluetooth on for phone calls only. The rest is mostly reading and browsing. This is on stock rom, no xposed, and substratum themes. :cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Could have done better ??
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Bring it Hoss! The gauntlet has been laid down! ???
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] varunit:
Thanks all for the tips. are you guys letting the battery to drain till dead and charge to a 100? I've read somewhere that it is not recommended and always keep the battery between 40% to 80%
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
I typically go 10-20 to 100% If dies, I'll get a new one. Haven't noticed any adverse affects yet though :cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Since this device i am keeping it 10-20 to 80-85 and would charge to 100 if i know i am gonna need that extra charge

Cheers ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] SpeederT12:
Ey lads,

New 2XL owner here. I've been pretty happy with the device (jk, it's bloody awesome), but I've been getting poorer battery performance than anticipated. 100% charge shows no more than 20hrs expected, and todays results are not the All-day power everyone has been writing about. Today I clocked 4hrs20min sot and 11.5hrs off charger which isn't a whole day. I mean, I own the device since Saturday (which makes less than three days) but shouldn't it already be producing the impressive results such as hours and hours of SOT and standby?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Hans_95:
I'm in the same boat I've had extremely similar stats to those throughout the course of my day!!! Highest SOT I've reached since my last post is 5h and 10mins. Right now I've got 45% battery and only 2h and 45 mins SOT.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] varunit:
ditto.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] HotShotAzn:
Heat is your biggest enemy in long term battery life. When you charge from dead to 100, it has to stay on the charger longer and generates more heat. At 100%, it trickle charges while plugged in so (in theory) less heat.

I switched over from a Moto Z Force that had absolute atrocious battery life, even when it was brand new. So far the Pixel is roughly double the SOT of the Z. I get way better reception in my office with the Pixel so that may be the reason I notice better battery life...but I've only had this two days.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] drvalianto:
It depends on how you used the phone as well. For me, just social media, videos on youtube and some small games, so I can reach 7hrs with no trouble.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Hans_95:
I'm sorry what?? 7 hours SOT no trouble are you serious lol? I literally listen to Spotify offline because everything is downloaded.. YouTube here and there, social media and a little bit of twitch for a few minutes and I BARELY hit 5 hours I normally hit 5 SOT flat that's it. Your phone is a god or my battery is busted.