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[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Screen on time is used because it is really the best basis for comparing battery life to see if there is a problem and to see how good battery life can get. Think about it. If you are using your phone is the screen on or off? It's on. Idle time uses a lot less battery. Although people do compare stand by times too. It's not meaningless at all. If you don't use your phone at all you could get a WEEK between charges. Is that good battery life? The answer is you can't really say just from that info. Usage matters and usage usually means screen on and screen one uses way more battery. If you use your phone and it's dead by 5pm and someone else, with similar usage, is lasting all day that is an indicator that something is wrong. It's also meaningful for comparing against your own battery life from the past. I use my phone for ABC and it lasts 20 hours but 3 months later I'm doing the same ABC but now it's only lasting 12 hours. That shows that something has changed.

Personally, unless I'm going on an overnight trip if what I'm going out with doesn't fit in my pockets I don't take it. That's why the pocket question came up. Obviously you go places with a backpack. I don't.

The features of a phone absolutely impacts how much screen on time you get. Let's say I have my screen on for an hour. If that hour is spent using GPS navigation the battery will be drained a LOT more than if you were just browsing or using some messaging app. Again, 4-5 hours being good depends on what your are doing. If you are using GPS navigation or playing games that is pretty good. If you are just browsing that's terrible. Think of a car. The harder you push a car the worse your MPG will be. A phone is the same. The "harder" your push it(doing more battery intensive tasks) the lower the battery life will be.

I unplug my phone at night before I go to bed. Leaving it on the charger at 100% for an extended period of time isn't good for the battery. Sitting idle overnight doesn't use that much power. I can unplug at 100% and sleep for 8 hours and when I wake up the battery is only down 3-4%. With actual usage doing something as light as just texting and i burn through that 3-4% in about 10-12 minutes. If I were using GPS navigation that 3-4% would be gone in like 6-7 minutes. Of course your are going to charge when you need to. What sucks is needing to charge and being somewhere you can't charge. If I'm away from a power outlet for a full day (like 9am to midnight) I'd like to have a phone that I can use for a variety of things and not have to worry about battery life. Whether you realize it or not screen on time has a HUGE impact on how long you can go between charging.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Kurtyyyyyy1:
Watched 2 episodes of walking dead while at the gym and then been casting YouTube to tv for hours now. This thing is a beast
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
If you know you'll be away for so long from an outlet, that's what fast charging and battery banks are for. I go 5-50% in 30 minutes and 5-80% in an hour. I don't bring it on my everywhere but I do keep it in the car all the time. So if I'm going to a theme park or have a day I know I'll take lots of videos or pics, then it only makes sense to have one just in case. And honestly it's very rare that I actually have to use it even when I bring it but I'm not worried about my phone dying or micromanaging my use.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] yellowman82:
Thank you. I was actually going to write something similar to like I honestly don't understand the big fuss of taking a charger with you and obviously not in your pocket or with you everyday but having a charger on a day where you know you are actually probably going to power use it then guess what lucky you have a charger with you to at least get some quick charge out of it but again all depends on the circumstances of how your planning to use your device for that specific day.

I have a backpack that I bring to work with my lunch and everything and also my charger in case my usage changes on a specific day. It was a day that I really didn't have crap to do at work so I really had used my phone like crazy but knowing that after work I have to go to the gym I have to make sure I have some juice so lucky I did bring my charger with me because actually had gotten a good quick charge from 29%~90% in within an hour before me getting off work which is from 7am-5pm. I felt for a power usage that day was good and being able to quickly charge it really quick before the gym was also amazing which Yea I had kinda giggled when he said the charging is trash.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah it's like there's some rule against topping off during the day. Most work days I get home with something like 65% with around 1.5 SOT and 12.5 off. If it's a day I know I'm going out that night, I plug in while [emoji90][emoji371] shave and it's ready for a night out!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Fast charging is great but doesn't matter if you are away from an outlet all day. You still have to PLUG IT IN. If you can't plug in it doesn't matter how fast you can charge.

I wouldn't say it's a common occurrence for me but it isn't rare either. It's something I experience maybe 20% of the time.

It was actually a situation I was in yesterday. I live in the San Francisco bay area and have a season ticket package for the Giants. Yesterday they had to make up a rain out game from a few weeks ago. I happened to have tickets to both games (1st at 1pm, 2nd at 7pm). I used public transportation. I was no where near an outlet from 9am to 12am(15 hours). If I hadn't "micromanaged" my use I wouldn't have made it the entire day.

And even the slimmest battery packs are too bulky to fit comfortably in a pocket.

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The days I'm most likely to use my phone a lot are the same days I'm not likely to not be anywhere near an outlet all day. The days I'm near outlet on a regular basis are the same days I don't need to charge during the day. Sure, I can charge at work. I have a charger at my desk. The thing is I usually don't charge at work because I don't need to because I don't use my phone much at work. It's the spending the day in a big city, going to a baseball double header (I actually did that yesterday), going to an all day music festival (doing that at least twice this summer/fall), etc where I'm using my phone a lot and away from an outlet all day that is the problem. On those days I either have to be very careful and limit my usage or take a battery pack and charge cable in my pocket. Both cases suck.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Only if you're a skinny jeans kind of person is it uncomfortable. My Pixel 2 XL with a TPU case fits fine with my Aukey 10000 mAh battery bank. And it's not even the newer slimmer still. It's the short, thicker kind. Regular fit pants wearer here.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Nope, not a skinny jeans person. Battery packs fit. It just isn't comfortable. Especially over the course of a 15 hour day. Could be just me but I hate bulky things in my pocket. As it is I buy carpenter jeans for the pocket on the side of the leg for my phone because putting it in my front pocket drives me nuts.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] drvalianto:
This phone is a beast!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Theme?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] drvalianto:
LoNe 4SuBs
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] sa27z:
Hey, Is there any way I can measure the battery health? Accubattery with one cycle of charge (upto 80%) shows that the battery is 71% in health. Mine is a brand new Pixel 2 XL. how can I measure to make sure the battery isn't faulty or anything. Also my SOT is around 4 hrs.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] drvalianto:
I dont think there is an accurate way. My Accubattery even tells me that my battery is 110% in health. How does that happen :confused:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Got to 8 hours SOT over 40 hours off the charger...

With a few top offs while driving. [emoji6]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Top offs don't count man! ????

Still, that's pretty darn good :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I think I'm gonna challenge myself to not charge to 100% and only top offs just for the hell of it. I'll get to 24 hours SOT in a few more days. LOL.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
And then post the results without showing the charging screen, or tell us what you did! That ought to get some interesting replies! ????
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] yellowman82:
I just use my device lol.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] DanteXXL:
"Android OS" always uses 15-17% of battery on my phone. Is it normal? I think it's a bit excessive but not sure what other people have.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
With Oreo, yes that was normal. On my second day with Android P DP2 it's a surprisingly low 4% for me. That was a light use 26 hours off the charger and 4+ hours of SOT.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] SpeederT12:
Update: a couple of week later:

So, some time after my last post, I've came to a conclusion: either I am using my phone really differently (I don't think I am) or it's just one of the February defect units. Perhaps I want too much from my phone (probably). On a regular day, starting from 6.30 and ending around 22.00 which is more than regular and I'm getting 4-5 hours SOT. When I'm more on wifi i get an extra hour or so. Attaching screenshots from today, as well as from several days ago. Currently running P beta, not sure whether battery is better than Oreo yet, but Android OS drain is reported to be less in the battery settings.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] cwalker0906:
Can you tell me what theme you are running? Thanks
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Swift Dark with green accents :cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] cwalker0906:
Didn't realize that swift now accents the nav and status bar...gonna have to give it a try again
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] DanteXXL:
I still had a feeling something's not right, so I clean flashed the factory image for May and (what a surprise!) everything is a lot better now :silly: Both Android OS and Android System hovered around 3-6%; overnight drain was only 3-4%.

I was barely getting 4 hours of SOT, now I can easily get to 6 hours with 15% battery left. Still early days but I hope things will not degrade, don't want to have to clean flash every month to get decent SOT.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
It doesn't theme the nav and status bars. For that I used sprite :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] heardd11:
battery life

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[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] eruben:
I'm just shocked!!! Since the beginning of smartphones I was using Samsung floating in between 3-4.5 hours SOT, where going beyond 4 was something really impressive (result of days of optimizations, battery tweaks). On P2XL I'm having 8+ SOT without any optimization or customization))) Unbelievable)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] FlatOutRU:
Only one question - how?

I`ve bought pixel 2 xl a few days ago and getting around 5-6 hours SOT
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] eruben:
Already discussed this topic on 4pda))
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] zacharias.maladroit:
duuuuuuuude :(

a few pointers what you did to achieve this would be nice so that others can have it too (non-Russian speaking folks)

Thanks
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] eruben:
I did literally nothing. Opened a box and used it after charging overnight. That's it. Stock may rom, stock kernel. I'm not gaming at all, almost no gps and bluetooth. No social media apps, for that I'm using browser. Telegram.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Yasharkhan:
I get 5-6 hours of SOT depending on my usage. But my issue really is that my battery skips percentage like it drops from 100-98, 88-86, 58-56.. You get the gist. I asked about this on here but no one answered. My battery health is 92% according to AccuBattery. What could be wrong? I have tried Battery Calibration with no effect.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Its a ui bug
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Looks like the nexus 6p 2% battery drop bug has migrated to the P2XL! Don't ya just love google consistency ??
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Plot twist - 2% drop is the accurate battery drop while 1% was a bug and now our whole life is a lie?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Yasharkhan:
Thanks for clearing that up. I was worried my battery might be faulty. Is this issue highlighted in Google bug tracker?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Oh man. I miss those days. Haven't gotten that kind of battery life since January. :(
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] eruben:
Indeed, don't know what the problem is but June release is so much worse vs May.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
But you were getting 8 hours SOT. How many hours are you getting now?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] eruben:
Around 6, but I left the phone under the sun yesterday, will re-check today.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] streebs87:
I've only had this phone for a week but I must say the battery has been super impressive. I'm running full stock, currently at 3.5 hours of SoT with 70% battery left.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
And you're all updated with the June software right? Cause some users keep claiming updates have been "killing" their battery life rather than it being usage and now nearly 8 months after it's release.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] streebs87:
I actually think mine is still on the May 5th patch. No new updates yet. I'm Verizon, so I'm assuming that's why I haven't gotten June's update yet?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I believe Verizon gets them nearly as fast as Google unlocked ones. But even so, that's still great for May. It's probably more so that your phone is brand new than what monthly update you're on.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Schroeder09:
One thing I noticed in here is the last time that the battery was fully charged. I think it's important. I noticed that the phone will do pretty good for screen on time when used a lot. It seems like screen on time goes drastically down and looks bad when not used very much of the course of a day. What I'm getting at is that this discussion hinges a lot on active an idle drain. I think some people are getting depressed when they see that someone's getting 8 hours screen on time while they're only getting 3 hours screen on time. If you look at the people getting 8 hours screen on time some of them are doing that when they're basically sitting on their phone all day long. If you look at their last full charge it was 12 to 16 hours ago. I noticed that too when I use mine a lot in a day.

Now if you use the phone less at the end of the day your battery percentage may still be only a little bit higher than normal and your screen on time will be drastically lower indicating that you have what some might consider high idle drain. To some these last paragraph sup, basically I'm saying that this phone does really well and active drain. It can give you a lot of screen on time if you sit all day on your phone.

That's all kind of just a point for people to think about, my real comment in this post is something to do with my own issues. It seems like my active and idle drain have gotten worse since I purchased this phone. More than I would have expected at this time Point. I've only been using the phone for about 8 months. Active drain seems to have gotten a little bit more worse and may be the culprit in my drain issues. However, it doesn't seem too crazy bad either. My active drain is around 14 to 15% while my idle drain is around .8%. I have my charging cap that 85% and I usually plug it in around 30%. I do these things based on various studies people have posted from Battery University and others. With this 50% band of battery usage throughout a day I typically see about 2 and 1/2 hours of screen on time when I used to would see four hours. It's really hard for me to troubleshoot anything when the battery stats at their face value don't appear to be that bad. What do you guys think I should do?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
I actually think your doing fine my friend. Since your only charging to 85% and plug in at 30% your only using a little more than half the juice for a full day. Flar2, the Dev for the EXKM app and Ex kernel once told me that if your total idle drain is less than 1% and your active drain is 12-15% that your doing well. Then you have the day to day variables that come into play, movement, signal, apps, wifi..etc which takes it toll. So unless you start seeing crazy numbers, I think your fine. My P2XL us 8 months old as well, and I'm a light user, and on any given battery cycle, I'll pull 7-12 hours of SOT. But so what, that's my usage, not yours :good::cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Noexcusses:
I don't know how those ppl here getting 8 hours sot.

Here they are mine shots.. is mine broken?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Nobody would get 8 hours of SOT with all the social media apps that you use. Facebook alone is a killer ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Noexcusses:
What do you mean all?? I use only FB and messenger..

With p20 pro with same apps I got 6:45 shot..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] streebs87:
Idle drain on my phone hasn't been an issue. My last full charge was 9 hours ago, with 2 hours 10 min screen on time while currently at 73%.

I always have Location Services set on the Battery Saver option. And my screen brightness is usually at like 30% (I know that's low but it's what I prefer) and I never stay logged in to Facebook. I don't play games, mostly just browsing and some texting here and there, so that's probably it too.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Screenshots or didn't happen. LOL.

But for real, 1 hour and 40 minutes on Facebook and it using 28% is kind of a lot. YouTube for 1 hour and 11 minutes did 11% for me.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Schroeder09:
I notice your stats say that your phone was held awake 100% of the time. Is that right? How could you be getting sick good results if that was true. My stats say my screen usage is 122%. Goes that possible? What do flar's starts mean? Is there ex kernel manager broken? My idle drain is .79% with 11.25% active. I used to see starts like yours. I don't have any wakelocks tied to apps. I do love battery saving location services on so the automatic wifi turn on works as well as some Tasker profiles.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Yeah, the EXKM battery monitor us kinda weird right now, it's not registering deep sleep for whatever reason. I was just mainly showing you active and inactive idle drain. Yours isn't bad at all either. Your within the parameters that Flar2 recommends :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Noexcusses:
What should I do?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Well one thing you can do is compare app usage and device usage. If you look at my app usage, YouTube used 11% but compared with the actual device usage, YouTube was only 2%. So basically the screen was the real drain and not the app. Therefore, if you have an even bigger difference between app and device usage percentages, check your screen brightness.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] lesbianu:
This is mine, 3G only.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Noexcusses:
And why 3g? You have smartphone...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Damn you use a lot of WhatsApp.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] lesbianu:
3G it's more than enough for browsing/mail/chat, and has better coverage in the buildings I work. It's still a smartphone, connected 24/7 to the internet.

[IMG="3G"]http://www.speedtest.net/result/a/4019682723.png[/IMG][IMG="4G"]http://www.speedtest.net/result/a/4019692882.png[/IMG]

Hehe, I had a "rough" day at work. It's not happening day by day. Same with battery consumption and screen on time... :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] eruben:
Still amazing)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] palebluerider:
Screen time has been nothing short of amazing.

And it seems to be getting a little better from this fresh warranty replacement. Although I have only had it for 9 days.

Yesterday was 8 hours with 31% remaining.

I felt like I was getting 7 or 7.5 and now this.

Anomaly ... Or some kind of magic?

My S8 before this phone was getting 6 or so.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] schnxtgn:
How can people here have 7+ even 10 hrs? I only have about 5-6 hrs SOT
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] krabban:
well it all depends of how you use youre smartphone, some only like texting, phone calls, web browsing, email.

others, instagram, facebook, snapchat, youtube, gaming etc...

5-6 is great enough i think! gonna buy a Pixel 2 xl today
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Dang...you barely beat me :silly:

Like the man said, it's all about how you use your phone :good:

Couldn't agree more :good::cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Easiest way is to charge only to 79% or less and it'll keep adding the SOT. [emoji23]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] zmankiller:
Android p is amazing. I just run my phone in battery saver mode all day and it's the same in everything. I get about 8-10 hours most days. My phone is only 2 months old too
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] sandip_909:
My Best in DP 4
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
The screenshot doesn't actually show your SOT total. Added up you got roughly 4.5 hours?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] sandip_909:
This is the main page, not sure why it didn't get uploaded in the earlier post.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] FlatOutRU:
Im getting no more than 6 hours on dp3/4 (lte only). How are you getting more?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
You'd have to compare his usage patterns to that of your own to make a fair comparison. Unless your experiencing some unreasonable drain, it's very difficult to compare battery results based on apps, signal, wifi, movement, themes, etc...etc :eek:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
How do you have yours to say "Last full charge"? Mine says "Full charge lasts about". Tapping or long pressing it doesn't do anything.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] sandip_909:
That's strange. Mine still says last full charge only.

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Indeed. Battery usage can really vary based on usage patterns. My usage is mostly YouTube, WhatsApp and some other social media stuff's.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] beache:
Almost 10 hours SOT. Really happy with this! Everything is default white theme as well. Would prefer Pure black but I don't want to root my Android P beta.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Very nice. How much total time off the charger was that with?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] beache:
About a day and a half!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] dragonopt1:
That's very hard to believe you have almost 10hrs SOT with 58% battery left....
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
If you notice he is charging his mobile so the stats are of before that
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] beache:
No, it was charging. That's why it is at 58%. It was down to 5%. The SOT doesn't reset until you take out the charger.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
And if the phone hits 80% or more. If not, you can keep adding up SOT.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] fullmetal509:
6 hours and 51 min of screen on time android Pie, also awesome standby time on my google pixel 2 XL, it was first charge so hopefully it stays consistent.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] J0K3R07:
I am getting around 6 hours of SOT on mix usage.