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[Networking] iusauser:
Summary

Hi

Telus

GSM

devices, Bell

GSM

devices (unlocked), also will work in ANY american 3G GSM Network with "traditional american bands". Should be noted that, Telus and Bell also have CDMA devices, for it to consider this.

IN SUMMARY:

The devices FULLY compatible with "american traditional bands" carrier-based, that uses 3G-850 (Band 5) and/or 3G-1900 (Band 2), are At&t devices, Telus (GSM) devices, Bell (GSM) devices, Rogers devices

...and in addition, Telstra devices (these last one with the 3G-850 band, not 3G-1900), but also tis ones suitables for Telcel Mexico (Telcel Mexico uses ONLY 3G-850, nationwide).

Now, HSPA+ iusacell`s GSM mexican network, uses 3G-850 and 3G-1900 (region dependant), and Movistar Mexico (HSPA) in same way (3G-850 or 3G-1900)

Anyway, the unlocked devices of mentioned carriers (at&t, Telus GSM, Bell GSM, Rogers..) will work perfectly in 3G in any mexican GSM network; also wil work perfectly in 3G in most Latin American GSM Carriers.

Best regards

EDIT: Texto en español

Los dispositivos GSM del operador Telus, así como los dispositivos GSM del operador Bell (que estén desbloqueados), también van a funcionar en 3G en cualquier red GSM 3G americana, mientras esta funcione con las bandas típicas asignadas para América. Hay que mencionar, que Telus y Bell también tienen dispositivos de tecnología CDMA, lo cual hay que tomar en cuenta (en ESTE CASO, hay que verificar que al elegir dispositivos de Telus y Bell, sean equipos GSM y no CDMA).

[Telus, Bell y Rogers, son operadoras canadienses]

EN RESUMEN:

Los dispositivos TOTALMENTE compatibles con las bandas típicas que se han asignado para América ( cuyas bandas son las banda 5 [3G-850], y la banda 2 [3G-1900] ), son los dispositivos de la operadora At&t, los dispositivos

GSM

de la operadora Telus, los dispositivos

GSM

de la operadora Bell, los dispositivos de la operadora Rogers ...Y adicionalmente (de forma limitada), los dispositivos de la operadora australiana Telstra.

Estos últmos (los equipos de Telstra), sólo soportan la banda 3G-850; pero no la banda 3G-1900; pero aún así los equipos de Testra, son adecuados para Telcel México, ya que Telcel funciona únicamente en 3G-850 en toda la nación.

Ahora, la red HSPA+ del operador mexicano iusacell (la red GSM más nueva en el país), funciona en 3G-850 y también en 3G-1900 (la frecuencia 3G depende de la región); asi como Movistar México, también funciona en esas dos mismas frecuencias, dependiendo de la zona.

De cualquier forma, los dispositivos desbloqueados de los operadores mencionados en primer lugar (at&t, Telus GSM, Bell GSM, Rogers), van a funcionar perfectamente en modo 3G en CUALQUIER red GSM mexicana; y también, esos mismos dispositivos van a funcionar en modo 3G, en la GRAN MAYORÍA de los operadores GSM latinoamericanos (con POCAS excepciones, como lo son los operadores de Brasil y Uruguay y también Digitel Venezuela, los cuales usan frecuencias 3G europeas ...mientras que todos los demas operadores GSM de Latinoamérica, usan las bandas 3G-850 y/o 3G-1900, discutidas en este post)

Saludos
[Networking] orb3000:
Gracias por la información detallada compa

Thanks for detailed info mate
[Networking] iusauser:
You´re welcome, is a pleasure to see compatriots who contribute to this great forum!!

(mi inglés es terrible, pero de algo sirve el google translator)
[Networking] fcarmona:
The Galaxy Tab in México is too expensive. If I could travel to US which is the Galaxy Tab Brand I sould buy in order to get full 3g access using mi telcel plan?

Thanks in advantage
[Networking] orb3000:
This one Paisa:

http://www.galaxytab.es/2010/12/att-samsung-galaxy-tab-unboxing/
[Networking] fcarmona:
From where in nevada can I buy it?
[Networking] burroloco:
Buenos Dias,

No se si esten familiarizados con los Blackberries, pero quiero comprar uno desbloqueado para usarlo con telcel 3G.

Yo perdi el mio, y me sale mas barato comprarlo por fuera, que con ellos.

Mi pregunta es, da lo mismo si es UMTS a HSDPA? la verdad lei el thread pero no entiendo, se que tiene que decir 850.

Y como se si me van a funcionar el plan de datos en mexico?

gracias
[Networking] orb3000:
Welcome to forums

You need to post a transalation as this is en English forum.

We do not manage BB here but you can try here

Buena suerte
[Networking] fcarmona:
I got it...

Sent from my Galaxy Tab
[Networking] orb3000:
Felicidades Paisano!

Where you got it and how much?
[Networking] fcarmona:
Las Vegas, NV.

545 + iva (de allá) 8%

Almost 600 usd

Sent from my Galaxy Tab Baby
[Networking] orb3000:
Thanks mate, cheaper as in Mexico for sure:eek:
[Networking] fcarmona:
And now I can navigate, send sms and have voice in my Galaxy Tab using Rotohamer firmware.

My chip is telcel
[Networking] orb3000:
Que gusto saberlo!

Nice to know!
[Networking] orb3000:
Why you repeated your post twice:confused::eek:
[Networking] fcarmona:
No, I didn't

Sent from my Galaxy Tab Baby
[Networking] orb3000:
Can´t you see them?

You have 2 identical posts

Anyway it doesn´t matter

Felicidades!
[Networking] tda43:
Telcel 3G & Cellular wifi routers

Orb3000 - You've provided a lot of good information in this thread. I've only had time to read a few pages. Please forgive me if you've already answered this previously.

There is something preventing my Globe Surfer 3 router from operating correctly on the Telcel network. When I use the globe surfer in Puerto Vallarta with the sim card from my Telcel banda ancha usb modem (ZTE MF100)- the speed is either very slow or I can't load a web page.

Important notes

* The globe surfer router says I'm connected to Telcel with good signal strength.

* When I plug the banda ancha USB modem directly into my laptop the speed is fast and always connects.

* I used the Globe surfer 3 router in california in California on the ATT network and it works fine.

Do you think there is a cellular frequency, 'dial up connection', authentication issue, or Telcel network policy causing this problem?

,

Any advice is greatly appreciated!

Globe surfer specs:

Wireless WAN interface

•UMTS / HSDPA

•WCDMA 850 / 900 / AWS / 1900 / 2100 MHz *

•3GPP FDD compliant 5.7 / 7.2 Mbps peak rate

•UE Power Class 3 (+24 dBm)

* With band variants

Advanced Receiver Technology

•Dual Antenna Receiver Diversity

•EMEA variant supporting diversity on UMTS 900 and 2100 MHz

•World variant supporting diversity on UMTS 850 MHz, AWS, 1900 MHz and 2100 MHz

•Receiver Equalisation

EDGE

•850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz

•GSM Power Class 4 (2W) for 850 / 900 bands,

•GSM Power Class 1 (1W) for 1800 / 1900 bands

•EDGE class E2 (+27 dBM in 850 / 900 bands, +26 dBm in 1800 / 1900 bands

•GPRS / EDGE Multislot Class 10 (4 slots Rx, 2 slots Tx, 5 max active)

•GPRS / EDGE Class B Type 1 MT
[Networking] orb3000:
Hi,

To be honest never used one of those, have you tried contact Telcel? perhaps they have another config for it?

maybe another Mexicans around can give you more help.

Good luck and please tell us how you fixed it
[Networking] stealthsal:
hola orb soy de mexicali mexico y necesito saber ke cel me recomendarias usar. comprarlos unlock y activarlo en telcel ke tenga soporte 3g. miro en tu "Signature" el celular inspire 4g. cuanto te salio? lo pudiste activar en telcel? muchas gracias :)

Hi orb im from mexicali mexico and i need to know what cell do u recomend to use.

buy them unlock and activate it on telcel so that it has 3g support. i can see on your signature that you got the inspire 4g. how much was it? were u able to activate it on telcel? thanks in advance :)
[Networking] orb3000:
Hola Paisa!

Well that depends on how much you want to spend on a device, I got the Inspire for 399US and have activated with Telcel with no problems

Salu2
[Networking] stealthsal:
money is not that much of an issue but i do like that inspire 4g a lot. how can i know what frequencys are used in mexicali baja california? or is telcel 850 data all nation wide? would that inspire work for me here? if so were did u buy it? i can only find it for 575+ dlls.. were did u buy it?? Thanks :D

El costo no es el problema, pero si me gusto mucho el inspire 4g y mucho. como puedo saber ke frecuencias son usadas aki en mexicali baja california? o acaso telcel usa 850 data por toda la nacion? podra ese inpire funcionar par ami aki? si es asi donde lo puedo comprar? nomas lo e mirado a 575+ dlls... donde lo compraste? Gracias :D
[Networking] orb3000:
Se lo compré a un miembro del foro en la sección de marketplace, pero con suerte en ebay puedes ganar una subasta a buen precio.

Telcel maneja 850Mhz para todo México así que te funcionará perfecto en Mexicali

Salu2,

I bought it from a forum member in the marketplace section, but with luck you can win an auction in ebay at a good price.

Telcel Mexico handles 850Mhz for all México so perfect in Mexicali

Cheers,
[Networking] stealthsal:
tienes manera de hacerlo unlock? o alguna aplicacion ke deberia de buscar? encontre uno en ebay a 399 pero esta lockeado a AT&T.

Do u have a way to make it unlock? or an aplication that i should look for? i found one in ebay for 399 but its locked to at&t.
[Networking] orb3000:
Pagué 25USD aqui y me mandaron el código para desbloquearlo

Avisame en cuanto lo compras finalmente

Paid 25US here and they sent me the unlock code

let me know how much you finally paied
[Networking] freakma:
Captivate FROYO in Telcel Mexico.

Hello to all,

I have a Samsung Captivate Froyo, Rooted and Unlocked with AT&T Contract :D, I am usually in San Diego CA but now I have been travelling to Tijuana Mexico so I unlocked my Captivate and bought an Amigo SIM Card (Prepaid SIM Card) my problem is when I insert the Prepaid SIM it gives me the following error "Your SIM Card does not allow conection to this network". When I unlocked the phone I tested it with a Telcel SIM Card with contract, everything worked fine just configured the APN but now that I bought the new SIM Card I don't know if is the Band, SIM or just did not unlocked my phone correctly.....any ideas or suggestions? :confused:

Thanks, :cool:
[Networking] Rayan:
Hello freakma,

As far as I know, you have to activate data on Amigo by sending an SMS stating the type of plan you like to use.

Check the Telcel.com page for more information or call *264 for help.

Good luck!

(I'm in TJ/San Diego area too!) :D
[Networking] freakma:
Hello Rayan,

Thanks for the reply, thats the funny part because i just want to call....it should register to Telcel no matter if the data is active, right? and I notice today that my IMEI has changed.....could it be the IMEI? since is different it does not allow connection.....

I will try to reset everything to stock and see if that works....

Thanks Rayan,
[Networking] Rayan:
The IMEI changed?

That's odd since IMEI can't and shouldn't change. It's part of the phone hardware, nothing to do with the SIM you put in. In other words, it's the registration number for the phone not tie SIM.

Did you changed the ROM recently?

What Version is that on the Amigo SIM? You can see the version printed on the SIM card.

Cheers!

Rayan
[Networking] freakma:
I installed UCJI6 Froyo a couple of months ago, the Amigo SIM version is 5.0.....when I verify the IMEI with PhoneInfo and compare it with the printed on the phone they are different, I was reading this thread hopping to restore my IMEI.

Or do you think it can be fixed by replacing the Amigo SIM?

Regards,

FreaKmA
[Networking] Rayan:
Are you saying that at the time you tried that phone with a Postpaid SIM card and where able to do talk and data you had one IMEI and now that you tried with an Prepaid SIM (Amigo) have another IMEI thus not able to do talk and data?
[Networking] freakma:
No just that today i notice that my IMEI is not the same from the one printed in my phone.....probably when I unlocked my phone my IMEI changed....I called Telcel and they say to bring the phone to the customer care center......so i'll update you with the results.

Thanks Rayan....
[Networking] orb3000:
Never heard before of IMEI changing from unlocking or similar:eek:

Please let us know what happened
[Networking] roar109:
Hi orb3000 you have problems to did 3g works on telcel network?

Spa:

Tubiste problemas en que funcionara el 3g de telcel? ultimamente ha estado fallando mucho.
[Networking] freakma:
Hi all,

My problem was resolved by restoring my IMEI, yesterday i follow the instructions from this thread i tested everything and my phone registered with Telcel right away....so conclusion Telcel blocks phones with cloned or wrong IMEI......

One does not think by unlocking or installing custom roms you could end up messing your IMEI so just to be safe before doing anything to your phone triple backup the /efs folder.

Thanks Rayan....
[Networking] Rayan:
Not all devices have that problem as long as you are certain you are flashing a rom meant for your brand and model.

I have flashed tons of different roms and never seen a single imei change.

However, a friend of mine just had the exact same imei problem as you but on a Telcel Galaxy S.

Good to know you managed to fix your HTC!

Regards,

Rayan
[Networking] marjanq:
Telcel data plan setting with HTC tilt2

Hello Everyone, Thanks for the useful post. my problem is, I have HTC tilt2 & need to set up my Telcel data plan. I followed the setting mentioned by you but I could nowhere find the TAB called "BAND" under Start/Phone/Setting/Personal. Can you please suggest whether there is a different setting for TILT2?

Many Thanks,

Marjan
[Networking] fcarmona:
Sorry, I have not a HTC phone

Sent from my Galaxy Tab Baby
[Networking] orb3000:
Hi roar,

Not any prob here, all working ok on 3G with my Inspire

Todo bien con el 3G en mi Inspire

Salu2
[Networking] stealthsal:
Yo seguí estas instrucciones y ya tengo 3g en telcel y orb ya tengo mi cel y está muy chingon :D http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=5e750231d361e730&hl=en

I followed these instructions and 3g is working on telcel. And orb i got my cell and it kicks ass i Luv it total price www 485dlls plus 20 unlocking and its well worth it....

Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G using The XDA app
[Networking] sihom:
Hi all, a friend who went on vacation to Mexico has a 4g 32 gb iphone for verizon company sold me a good price (413 dollars) and has 2 months of use, this phone is locked but is activated, blocked for Using another sim (while leaving some unlock and activated and able to apply while the "jail-break, the question on if I want to know if I can activate telcel because I have understood according 4g verizon iphone is dual band CDMA and GSM, in fact the iphone currently uses the network telcel, maybe this is not the right place for my question, as if I could help, but as they acquire a phone with android

Spanish:

Hola a todos, un amigo que vino de vacaciones a mexico tiene un iphone 4g 32 gb de la compañia verizon me lo vende a buen precio (413 dolares) y tiene 2 meses de uso, este telefono esta bloqueado pero esta activado,bloqueado para el uso de otro sim(mientras sale algun unlock y activado y poder aplicar mientras el "jail-break"), la cuestion en si es que quiero saber si lo puedo activar en telcel porque segun tengo entendido el iphone 4g de verizon es dual en las bandas CDMA y GSM, de hecho el iphone en este momento utiliza la red de telcel, quiza este no sea el lugar adecuado para mi pregunta, igual si me pudiesen ayudar, ya sino pues adquirire un movil con android
[Networking] orb3000:
Welcome to forums

Don´t buy a ****ty iphone! go for a real phone!!

No compres esa mugre de ayfon!, compra mejor un cel de verdad!!
[Networking] orb3000:
Yes having 3g with telcel it´s pretty easy! I know by memory that instructions, many time doing it:cool:;)

I have my Inspire working perfect as well!

Also rooted, and S-Off!
[Networking] stealthsal:
How did u Root ?

Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G using The XDA app
[Networking] iusauser:
smartphones comparison chart

Hi, I just started a thead with a comparison chart, related to the most powerful smartphones with 3G-850 and 3G-1900, sutable for most GSM Latin american carriers like Telcel Mexico

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12146953

Best regards

----------------

Espero les sirva esa tabla comparativa de equipos GSM, los cuales en México pueden funcionar sin problemas en las redes de Telcel, Movistar y ahora la nueva red GSM HSPA+ de iusacell/unefon (iusacell4G)

Saludos!
[Networking] orb3000:
Here you´ll find all you need;)
[Networking] luiscencio:
problem with xperia arc

hola todos me compre un xperia arc lt15i y pss contrate un plan de datos pero ya intente todas las configuraciones ke vienen por todo google y xdadev y nomas no agarra el 3g de telcel, nomas agarra EDGE... se supone ke el telefono si agarra esta banda pero no stoy seguro... alguien ke me pueda hechar la mano???
[Networking] Rayan:
Primero que nada, debes asegurarte que tu equipo cuente con las frecuencias y bandas que usa Telcel, usa google para averiguar cuales tiene tu equipo o revisa la documentación del mismo.

Saludos
[Networking] luiscencio:
esto lo sake de Phone Arena... cual es la banda de TELCEL????

gracias amiguito

Network technology:

GSM:850, 900, 1800, 1900

UMTS:900, 2100

Data:EDGE

UMTS:Yes

HSPA:Yes (HSDPA 7.2 Mbit/s) HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s

Y esto de la pagina de SE

Networks

- GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900

- UMTS/HSPA 800/850/1900/2100

- UMTS/HSPA 900/2100
[Networking] orb3000:
Please use English or at least a translation!

Telcel uses 1900Mhz and 850 for 3G

Saludos
[Networking] ergray:
Nexus one radio version?

Hola,

This is a great thread and seems like a few of you have had experiences with the nexus one, I was wondering if you tried different radio firmawares and which one works better with the crappy telcel's data network, lately I've tried new and old ones and nothing seems to get good results, I'm aware that the main problem is telcel network, but anyway would like hear about your experiences.

Thanks in advance.

Saludos.

Ernesto
[Networking] Rayan:
I too have the Nexus One and never had an issue with Telcel, ever!

I've been using the latest radio for the Nexus, along with Formel's MIUI ROM (I don't recall the number and I don't have the N1 at this moment) but never had issues even with old radios.

I guess that it's more about geographic zones than radios.

Cheers,

Rayan

- Sent from my ATRIX 4G using XDA app -
[Networking] ergray:
Thanks Rayan,

If you have the chance to check the baseband radio version and SIM card version it would be very helpful.

I don't have many voice issues but the data speed has been around . 1 to . 2 Mb the last couple of months, both in Cancun and DF.

Un saludo
[Networking] Rayan:
I have the following :

Android Version: 2.3.3

Baseband: 32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08

Versión de Núcleo : 2.26.35.7-59423-g08607d4

Número de compilación: GRI40

Saludos,

Rayan

- Sent from my ATRIX 4G using XDA app -
[Networking] Rayan:
Sorry for double posting ...

Forgot to mention that you must be experiencing some data fluctuations because Telcel has been testing their new HSDPA + network for the last couple of months.

Also that's pretty much normal speeds in general.

Regards,

Rayan

- Sent from my ATRIX 4G using XDA app -
[Networking] ergray:
Thanks Again, is a shame to have confirmation that the data speed is so dismal.

Saludos.
[Networking] Rayan:
As I said, Telcel is about to officially launch its 3.5 G network, and soonafter its LTE network, so its not that bad. Here in TJ I sometimes get about 3 to 4 gbps, and it's not even ready yet.

- Sent from my ATRIX 4G using XDA app -
[Networking] ergray:
Just as a follow up: My data speed was so low because I had used over 500MB within a month and Telcel dropped my connection to just 0.1 Mb/s, now that my billing date is through I went back to 0.4 to 0.7 MB/s speeds (ya me levantaron el castigo).

saludos,
[Networking] Chivas Strikers:
Dell Venue Pro

Hey there!

Do you know if the Dell Venue Pro works with Telcel 3G? or only with GSM

@ gsmarena.com this are the specs:

2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100

BUT @ Dell official site this are the specs

UMTS 2100/1900/850

GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900

HSDPA 7.2Mbps/HSUPA 5.76 Mbps

Who to trust? jeje

Thanks!
[Networking] GorDog:
SIMS TelCel

Hey,

I got very lucky and found a Desire Z with the correct Int Bands and it worked first try on TelCel. We got 3G.

But my problem is empty or corrupted tEXT messages from girlfriends phone.

Happens on two different phones and I'm thinking it is the SIM CARD

She is using and older TelCel v3.0

I've got a TelCel v5.0

Her texts look like something is masking off the top half of the word (letter). So it looks like $%#^@%$#^% <>?M<"" or it is just blank.

So I have narrowed it down to.. its gotta be the actual SIM CARD.

Can anyone confirm that a Bad SIM might do this? or that there is a compatability issue with the different SIM cards.

Thanks in advance.
[Networking] GorDog:
I hate TelCel

I give. I through in the towel.

I bought a Desire Z phone for girlfriend in Mexico. She uses a pre-paid SIM on there TjAmigo plan. Phone works fine for all accept Texting and I can not figure out what is wrong. Today I was convinced it was the SIM. But she can take the SIM

Phone Details: HTC Desire Z Froyo 2.2 unlocked and completely unbranded phone. It boots as an HTC.

It gets 3G, it gets WiFi, it makes calls, she can text friends in Mexico. But when she texts me international it is either BLANK or @#$%//>:" Comes looking like some Symbols.

If she puts her SIM into another phone (older GSM phone it works fine).

To make matters more intersting.. it did the exact same thing with a MyTouch Slide 3G. What is with HTC phones that TelCel doesn't like?

I thought it was the Bands, since T-Mobile is not a NAB phone. Like the AT&T phones.

If the phone is unlocked, has the right Bands, is GSM and the SIM is fine, what the F$#%@#$% H#$%#$ can make messages go blank on different phones??? I'm using a G2 with MySimpleMobile.

Oh, and she can receive my messages just fine. It is just sending them from Mexico TelCel to me.

Is this a network problem?

Configuration problem?

I hate to give in and buy a TelCel phone. They are pieces of junk and triple the price of phones here. She went to TelCel and they said it is a problem with American phones. I can't believe they can tell the difference if it has the correct bands and is unlocked. This phone clearly has the correct UMTS 850/1900 Bands and is Quad Band GSM so it should function perfect.

Thanks,

Very very very frustrated. Three freaking phones and no luck.
[Networking] orb3000:
I used to have a Desire Z with telcel and never knew about this prob.

Just in case, have you tried to update your SIM card?

Buena suerte
[Networking] GorDog:
Just tried it with 2 different SIM cards. A v3.0 and a V5.0

Same issue with Both!! What i weird is it happens random.

Sometimes we will get the text... and other not. She cannot send.

First day I had phone. I drove to Tijuana. Parked very close to the border where my phone could get USA coverage from T-Mobile, and inserted a TelCel SIM Card into her Desire Z. Sent a text text. Perfect!

She inserts her SIM and it is ****. I'm wondering if there is a Registration?

TelCel is just wacked (quite possible).

I'm grasping for anything to try at this point.
[Networking] GorDog:
I just tried it again last night with My new SIM card v5.0 and it did the same thing.

I'm just wondering if I need to register the phone.

Maybe it is an APN setting or something?

I am baffled at this point. That exact same SIM worked the day I got the phone.

It seems random. So it could be a NETWORK or a Band issue? I've not a clue at this point.
[Networking] GorDog:
Bump.

Still getting corrupted TEXT SMS messages from a TelCel phone.

What can cause this???

Can APN settings have anything to do with a text message?

I need ideas for what to check? something.

TelCel is no help (imagine that!) If ever anyone ever complains about Verizon, or AT&T or Sprint.. .. jajaja try TelCel. Talk about arrogance and not carrying.
[Networking] Rayan:
Upgrade your sim card and try again.

Some time ago I had the same problem and that fixed it.