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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] apxi84:
doesnt it say also have?

it says "enable DUN to be used on devices that also have internet sharing." wouldn't that mean you would have a choice of which option to use.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Looks more like DUN uses IS instead of bypassing it as it does now with 6.0. Currently, you can't track DUN data usage on the phone but the carrier still sees it.

I don't see what difference this new change makes except BT DUN is not longer the bastard, red-headed step-child anymore.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Shadow7789:
Doesn't seem like a huge problem. Just use a non-AT&T firmware.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dover:
I'm confused. I tether using PAN with my Tilt. Does this new feature mean they can track usage of DUN, or both DUN and PAN? So should I be worried that I now have 6.1 on my Tilt?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] joe22359:
i am going to florida for four days and i want to tether on my laptop so i can sling box on the comp. If i am caught tethering what is the penalty/charge? if one time monthly charge it might be worth it. also are there any pre-paid wireless internet plans from att or anywhere else?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jon_k:
It's a matter of time before someone cooks a rom or makes a cab that hinders or disables the reporting that you are tethering.

But thats the thing.

Technically it is NOT another line NOR account. Why do you think you have to run ICS application for the whole thing to work? It's an application that simply makes any request from your PC be made on the phone natively.

When you connect to port 23 from your computer to a domain -- your phone is simply making that socket connection, and then passing everything back to your PC. It's a proxy program.

So technically, while you play Quake 3 -- your phone is doing the work. Not another telephone, not another line. Nope, the traffic would be the same if you were playing Quake natively on your device. The ICS program just sends outbound anything from your PC and inbound anything to the device.

So I think it is poor business to charge for something just because a program on your PHONE is running. ****, they already charge $50 bucks for unlimited PDA internet, and they cap it at 5 gigs on their network. That doesn't even include tethering!

With 50 bucks I can get cable or DSL.

ATT is a damn ripoff. I need to find another US carrier ASAP.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] masterdude656:
Im confused and somewhat lost....

You know... I tether almost all school day on my tilt and have no problem. I have the 40 dollar Unlimited internet plan and although, may not be the fastest thing around, but for 1.5Mb speed, I cant complain. Im also on ATT btw. I also check my bill every day as well, and havent had a charge for it (knock on wood if I am just lucky then... :( )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GSLEON3:
That is definitely something that would have to be implemented through the OAL. That means it's bypassable. It will still just look like data to the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TurboX2:
Haha.. yeah me too, i teather pritty much every day at school as well, and wats worse is that i am paying for the 20 dollar MediaMax 200 plan.. i tell my friends in Europe that and laugh in thier face about it too. i used to do it way b4 the tilt came out with my 8525.. lovin the 3G.

Att is to profitable a company for me not to tether.

(and i do use all of my text everymonth as well)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] masterdude656:
Awesome, so im not alone on this one :D good to know now! :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Doug2873:
I wouldnt go that far...until T-Mo gets their 3G in the USA ATT is the lesser of 2 evils (and yes I'm not even including Sprint, they are dead)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ericc191:
Does ATT have ANY unlimited data plans?

EDIT: I was just at ATT's website and they still have MEdia Net unlimited for 15.00 a month and 200 Texts for 5.00 a month. There is also a plan called MEdia Net Max that comes with both for 20.00 a month. Now, if WM6.1 will only allow ATT to monitor the data then isn't the choice clear? Stick with 6.0 or a non ATT rom. Correct? If I'm wrong somewhere, please correct.

Oh also, I'm with a company that offers ATT but I am not billed directly by ATT and this company has their OWN plans. I just use ATTs network. This is ALSO an option. I once used over 10GBs of data tethering with my 8525. I was never charged more than my current plan. $20.00
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
Stop panicing people. As long as PPC is the one receiving the traffic (read: proxy), there will be many easy ways of masking where that traffic actually ends up in.

I'm 99.99% sure that it's impossible to fully close the ability of PPC to transfer traffic to PC/Mac thourgh WiFi, BT or USB. Unless there's a hardware restrictions, but can't even imagine how that'd be possible.

Say NO to panic, people =)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ericc191:
Well.. ATT can usually be just as sneaky as most of us ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] The--Captain:
Let's all calm down

We all know that tethering via IntShrUI allows us to avoid buying a ridiculous data plan (I have an unlimited data plan on my AT&T 8525, but not the insanely expensive one for "tethering"). AFAIK, the difference is that IntShrUI makes the phone show up as an external USB ethernet device, while the other option (which I've never explored, due to the potential cost involved) uses the phone as an actual modem device for DUN - providers have typically billed the latter per usage, but not the former. Can we all stop freaking out until someone can post a definitive answer that they have indeed been billed for usage encountered when using IntShrUI, rather than the DUN solution the providers want you to use. I've tested/used WmWifiRouter this month (which uses IntShrUI, IIRC) - if the bill shows any additional data charges, I will summarize here - can I get some additional folks to do the same (use IntShrUI a little to see if they get billed)? Until we get some actual confirmation, all speculation is largely FUD.

Thanks,

-Jon

P.S. Using a HERM100 w/ WM6 ROM 3.62.502.3 and have added PTT hack.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ACMilan07:
i've been tethering almost 1 GB a day (close to 25GB a month) as ive moved to a new appt where i no longer have internet for the past 3 months, i've got the unlimited data plan and i have not been charged anything extra, i even had my tilt replaced by att last month, my bill has NOT changed, been checking very often
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Michaelr219:
im not worried about it...

with the surgeons that pull these roms apart and put them back together like the million dollar man, im sure theyll notice this little detail and nip it right in the butt... screw att... its bad enough they get all this money out of us for the phones, a 2 year contract, and an expensive bill... youre lookin at atleast 70 bucks a month minimum... theres no worry ppl, unless you plan on using a stock rom :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TurboX2:
daaaaamn...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jgmdean:
Hacking phone plans...

Since my phone is billed to a centralized corporate plan, the corporate sales droid was quite co-operative when I switched over to the Tilt. It's a BIG corp... :D

Anyhoo, he let slip that the easiest/most cost effective plan was a phone with unlimited laptop data. In other words treat the account like a phone plus data card. Weird, but essentially I'm legal to push/pull whatever/however through the account. This was a couple of months ago and out of curiosity I asked why this plan and not a PDA plan, and was there a consumer version? His answer was that there was a consumer version and that they were de-emphasizing the PDA and Blackberry plans. Apparently the technical difference is supposed to be which APN you use: wap.cingular for PDA/BB plans and isp.cingular for "laptop". Your account has to be "authorized" on one APN or the other, you can't just change the connection setting. Apparently this is sometimes called the "tethering plan" and can be added to any minutes/phone package. The cost is about $50 per month and I would expect the consumer version would be the same with a 2 year contract (pet peeve, but different rant). So subtracting the phone minutes part, it effectively works out to be about $30 for truly "unlimited" I-can-even-run-bittorrent-on-it-on-my-laptop data. At around 1.5Mb/s effective clocked d/l speed (via WiFi) that's cheaper than DSL and has slightly better upload speed than cable. The kaiser's 400MHz CPU seems to be perfectly adequate for shovelling bits around in this role. Note, you still have to disable that <bleep>ing hidden proxy, even for tethered connections.

If anyone's wondering: my radio is 15.32, my ROM is Dutty's v4RTM, I made my own ROM splash screen, and I did the SuperCID. AT&T appears to neither notice or care and everything "just works".

Also: Nobody said you couldn't call your self an independent small business to get access to the "business" plans, and if your occupation is in any way computer related you can probably claim the data plan as a tax deduction. (April 15th cometh, ya know! :mad: Vote FairTax! http://www.fairtax.org:D )

HTH?

James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DarkDvr:
Might be a bit offtopic, so forgive me, dear posters..

but still.. I assume you have Kaiser charging at that time - do you have problems where it stops charging when you have heavy traffic flowing through HSPDA (or u use 3G)?

Also, how do you tether? Powered USB and IntShUI? Or AC charger with WiFi Router?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] coolVariable:
I use the WM6.0 and often "tether" my laptop by running the ICS via Wifi program that can be found on this forum.

Curious if it also works for WM6.1.

Since Wifi sharing is not supported natively I am sure that - if this is even true - a way can be found to use Wifi sharing in a way that makes the traffic look like it originated on the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] M1A1D:
Look at the attachment image in my first post. Specifically look at "Productivity>Internet Sharing Billing and Extensibility".

It clearly states "Enables MO to route Internet Sharing traffic through a specific APN so that they can bill specifically for phone-as-modem use."

This possibly means that there is either a change to the ICS app, or to WM 6.1 as a whole that will allow them to close the loophole. THAT is what has me concerned. Will this be a registry change, or something else like how certain CDMA phones route external traffic through a secondary NAM?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wilsonzone:
I am just going to keep an eye on my bill. I don't tether very often, mainly when I travel. If they start charging then I will find another way.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Denoh:
Any definitive answer on this yet?

From the WM 6.1 feature preview, it appears the 6.1 will reintroduce BT DUN profile, a feature that was not on WM 6.0, which is the OS that was released with the Tilt/Kaiser.

I personally would like the SMS threading feature included in WM 6.1 and this would be the main reason to upgrade from 6.0. I do tether sometimes when I am out of WiFi range while travelling and use BT PAN.

I am assuming that if you tether your laptop using BT DUN, AT&T will be able to see this usage and bill accordingly if you do not have a data plan that allows tethering. I am also assuming, that even with the addition on BT DUN that comes with WM 6.1, BT PAN will still be available and can be used by those of us who want to tether 'under the radar'. I am correct? Can anyone who has upgraded to WM 6.1 please confirm that BT PAN is still available in addition to BT DUN?

Thanks,

Denoh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jay2TheRescue:
BT DUN not available on WM 6.0??? I have a stock ROM on my Tilt and I have done BT DUN with the Tilt before... I wasn't able to get BT PAN to work though...

-Jay
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Denoh:
Any answers yet?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChInEsE ChIcKeN:
i use my data a lot, i am constantly on my skype for hours on end and also IM
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jay2TheRescue:
I own a small business and I claim my phone and my service as a business expense, and write it off as such.

-Jay
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] coltsevin:
here is the low down.

I work for at&t. Well for one more week. fitting and welding pays a bit more :). I have not suceeded in tethering but i blame my POS desktop. For now, but for laptop connect/tethering there is a 5gb "soft limit" no overage charge as of now. i have the $20 smartphone data plan on my tilt. hehe. i pushed 180.4mb last month and no word yet. like they said tho they can see large data amount. do they speak not for a couple months. cya
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jay2TheRescue:
$19.99 Smartphone Connect Unlimited... That's the same plan I have with my Tilt... :)

-Jay
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] spambaggs:
ICS Problem.

I can no longer use Internet Connection Sharing. As far as I know I didn't upgrade to 6.1, but as of a few days / ago, (when I last tried), 3G will not connect through ICS. Might something have happened re: tethering?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jay2TheRescue:
Which ROM are you using?

-Jay
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] michalopoulosgk:
A week ago I abandoned my international roaming and data plan and acquired tethering instead, for the same price. I was told that the data downloads are unlimited (not limited to 20 megabytes). I have used my laptop with Kaiser several times recently, using the WMWiFiRouter, a program that was made available through this forum about 3-4 months ago. Despite some problems that I had with it and mentioned it in another thread (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=365720&highlight=WMWiFirouter)

the connection worked perfectly and every time I would turn on this program, the laptop would connect with the phone on its own.

My question is whether the data downloads coming via WMWiFiRouter are counting the same way as, for example, using the phone as a straight model (Bluetooth or usb connection).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Lidberg:
If you're using your phone as your data connection, whether it be with USB, BT or WiFi in ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, you are transmitting data over the cell phone network, so yes - AT&T counts it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] _Alex_:
It's only soft capped for those who have signed up for it after a certain date. I believe that cutoff date was some time in January.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FireBladeCBR:
masterdude, i've been trying to teather my tilt for my laptop and my tilt says under internet sharing check usb cable and i've used 3 cables. its driving me crazy lol. also i have att pda data plan and an laptop data card both unlimited internet i have 2 laptops and want to use the phone for one on occaission.

thx

Fireblade
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] asrrin29:
I have the AT&T unlimited Personal PDA package plan for $30.00. It does not include tethering but is supposed to be unlimited data. I use about 3GB a month or less. About once a week I take my laptop to the laundromat where no wi-fi is available. I tether while I am there, doing some light surfing or video watching. I've been doing this for 2 or 3 months and I have never seen any extra charges on my bill, and I've looked closely.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GuySparkz:
has anyone been a victim of this new policy?
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonyashwani:
I was rooting my samsung note 5 sm n9208 .I have done root process but now my phone is stuck on samsung logo.problem is that I don't know my phone's country.so I am unable to flash stock rom.can I flash other country rom on my note 5 n9208

Plz suggest me
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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] cslince:
No laptop with me, anyone tried ?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] yashj9:
Can we use banking apps with bootloader unlocked!? Also will we get ota updates with bootloader unlocked?!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] imPazhani:
No! unlocking the bootloader will trip the safetynet..

As long as you have the stock recovery you will get the OTA updates
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] vivek97:
Which boot. Img is this August build??

Probably it won't work on September build i guess
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghpranav:
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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] vivek97:
Okay waiting for September one

Because i have already updated to September patch
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] melmarPH:
Waiting for September build too. Thank you for this awesome share!
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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhishek Devaraj:
how can i help you with that? from where can i extract the boot.img? obviously without root access. :(
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghpranav:
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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhishek Devaraj:
Oh! I guess it's too late now that I have updated to latest build.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghpranav:
Let's wait for someone else to do
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Abhishek Devaraj:
For some one else who hasn't updated to September build. Please help us out. ?

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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] melmarPH:
Is there away I can extract it using root explorer? I have asked some mates to post it here..
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] dsjd:
Doesn't unlocking you bootloader usually erase all data?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cathair2906:
https://android.googleapis.com/packages/ota-api/xiaomi_tissotsprout_tissot/1708f685882654506222b8cd8956ef1ac7f87aa3.zip
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Update!

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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] yashj9:
Can we remove some system apps and still get ota updates with this method?!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ex-Hunter:
Hi! How to do the 3rd step? Do we have to flash the patched boot.img? Has anyone successfully rooted via Magisk ?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] melmarPH:
Some mates tried but as per them it did not work..
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] m.atif:
Without trying how did OP said to root via magisk.
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[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] adityakamal11:
Problem with downloading patchedboot.img...Please Update it..
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghpranav:
Can u plz explain what the problem is?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Russel Got stucked:
Thanks , i am a newbie , will try the AIO V2 tool on my september patch and reply yoh ASAP
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Russel Got stucked:
Hi guys am back here again, to reveal that i have got an issue , i cant seem to install the adb drivers ,i tried with yout tool but after i execute the "Install afb and fastboot drivers" it says, Driver package installer has stopped working. any ideas? Also my usb debugging is enabled
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Which windows are you using? And what architecture (x86 or x64)? Btw you can get those drivers by googling also, I have just included a minimal one...
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] antimatter.web:
How do I use flashfire to inject supersu permanently? Currently rooted with supersu installed and active slot b. Please kindly guide me on how to make root permanent (not sure if I'll lose root on reboot) or whether thats not an issue
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghpranav:
Install latest SuperSu zip, & flash it with flashfire
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Russel Got stucked:
win 7 64 bit i5 . Yup i tried those drivers already still didnt work :(
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vatumb:
Stuck on Boot loop..
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] antimatter.web:
Did that. Seemed to finish correctly (ended with rebooting now) but never booted up (stuck on blue-red-yellow-green google colours, mi logo and "unlocked" written at the bottom of the screen. How to recover?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghpranav:
Go to fastboot and flash the patched boot.img, & then mobile will boot properly, then open flashfire, select SuperSu zip, & then also enable inject SuperSU option & then flash
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghpranav:
Plz explain clearly...