yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bundin:
Same for me truciet, I tend to avoid public betas as well, mainly because I'm not that good with WM6 to iron out any little issues myself. For me, the phone is an indispensable tool that I have to be able to rely on.

@ Dutty: I guess in a way, it's some sort of a compliment, people going through great lenghts to get their hands on your work. But I can fully understand the anger and annoyance when your site is hacked and private files are stolen. However, posting that picture on this forum is not done imo. Regardless, I'm a happy user of your v4 release (the first and only rom I ever flashed, about 3 hours after I knew these boards existed and 6 hours after me unexpectedly buying a Kaiser). You deserve my respect and thanks for creating it and greatly improving my experience with the Kaiser :)

@ beta testers: thanks a lot for the time and effort you're investing in making the upcoming rom better. I really appreciate it. However, a bit more discretion in the beta procedure would probably save us all a lot of spam in the case of future releases. A lot of it is generated by people that are riding the waves of the major hype any Dutty-rom generates.

@ hacker/clever googler/whatever: No matter how much you wanted that rom, you had no business downloading it, let alone link it here. It was not yours to release.

Back to idling and lurking for me :) Take care all o/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] truciet:
so after the public beta...you're gonna release a final 6.1? plans after lol? i would imagine everything's pretty much done until an OEM 6.1 comes out
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] duttythroy:
To be fair I release the RTM this morning to beta tester as I feel the rom is ready was going to fix some minor bits but which we could live with, just one minor bug to fix
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gr@z!:
I'll wait your official thread where you'll communicate the release of your file to download.

Thanx for your hard work bro. Congrats to you and to all beta testers for their help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hv_thugg:
so when exactly is this thing gona be release?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cptsunshine:
I have a question regarding Dutty's rom: I'm currently running the "updated official 6.1" rom with *some* 1.6x radio. the only real annoyance so far is the soft reset not working. I was going to 'upgrade' to Dutty's in order to fix that issue, possibly get more ram and better battery times. Does that make sense? Are there other benefits aside from the HTC goodies etc. preintegrated?

Also, Dutty or any of the official Beta testers: All application themes have a red touch to them (according to the Screenshots Dutty posted), is there a way to change that to blue/grey or any other color for that matter?

Thanks for bearing with me ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Red_Toyol:
@Dutty,

May I suggest that the version you will officially release to be name something else other than "Duttys_WM6.1_Rom_RTM" to avoid confusion as to which version (official from you or leaked) people are/will be using? Maybe "Duttys_Rom_v5" or something. Those who follow your thread will know that v5 are based on WM6.1.

Thank you again Dutty, and thanks also to all beta testers.

-Red-
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] duttythroy:
Ok thats a great Idea, or i will just called it Duttys WM6.1.1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
You might want to try the .06.04 radio ROM. You're running 'the other one' if I'm not mistaken.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mccread:
From a newbie to the master chef

Dutty - I don't post often, but I have being reading, following your roms for weeks. You are an incredible talent and an asset to this community. Don't let some idiot get to you. There will always be people like them in this world. We just got to rise above it. Thanks for all of your hard work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jarek91:
Dutty, I can honestly say I'm still running your original 6.1beta from right before you started the small beta group. I'm not downloading the leak. I'm not interested. What I'm interested in is the ROM you think is worthy of being the Next Dutty Release. So you say you still have a bug or two you want to fix before you let it go? Wonderful. I'll wait patiently because if you still think that then it isn't the Next Dutty Release yet. Take whatever time you need. Your true supporters will be right here on whatever legacy/alternate ROM we like happily awaiting your next milestone.

And if you ever have any doubt about that...just look at the reaction to the leak posts. That's probably the best show of true respect and loyalty anyone could ask for.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] truciet:
Anyone with the RTM rom...

Has the sound bug been fixed in the threaded SMS? The only way you could get the sound is when you exit completely out of it but once you're in the thread/chat session, no more sound...

example...

you: test (first sound/vibrate)

Me: test

you: test (no more sound/vibrate)

Me: test

you: test (no more sound/vibrate)

you: test (no more sound/vibrate)

you: test (no more sound/vibrate)

Sleuth's rom works perfectly...Dutty's beta had the sound bug...i hope its fixed in RTM
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Hdstreetglide:
Gentlemen.....HHmmmmm....is this not the same foul smelling baby foul that betrayed dutty and started this. Please , as I asked before DON'T fall into this trap.............:rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] duttythroy:
Thank u man, ur good friend
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sd73ta:
if you realy want to show how much dutty release means i say we all make a nice donation. im definitely going to he worked his ass off on this rom and i think he deserves it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Hdstreetglide:
For those that don't know or realize, Dutty put this rom togeather WITHOUT a phone, as his went DOA and had to be replaced. He relied exclusively on the input of the beta testers to put this rom togeather blind!!!!!:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] persiansown:
Did dutty get his phone back yet?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
WARNING

WARNING

After several hours of using the RTM my device WSOD'd out of the blue (from the Today screen while I wasn't touching it, no less), and it took me, dutty and alltheway together more than an hour to get my device running again. Bootloader didn't even work. This may or may not be related to the ROM, but it happened. Just a warning to those who don't know what they are doing and want to 'play' with this version before it is released.

I am on the beta team, and yes, this is exactly why there is a private beta.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Hdstreetglide:
Yes he did ....just yesterday:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] truciet:
dam you scared me...

i just finished flashing to see if the threaded SMS bug is there and it is...now i'm flashing back...:eek:

Dutty...

any fix on that? do i need to explain it more clearly? lol...sorry if i'm not any help...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Chainfire:
For clarification, this may not be related to the ROM at all, we're still looking at it, Dutty is tired, etc. I am the only one who has experienced this so far out of 20^H^H 19 beta testers (and I'm probably also the one running it the shortest amount of time) so it's not likely it's related. Just be warned.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] collinssc:
Which MMS Bug.. please decribe it in more detail
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anjew:
wow... i was wondering why this thread blew up...

I'll respect Dutty's work and wait.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] truciet:
The SMS/MMS bug is...

Get someone to text you...

Hit the reply and go into the "threaded SMS"

reply to the msg and yours should look like this...

Friend: Hi... (you will get a sound/vibrate)

Me: hello...

Now your friend replies...it should look like this but NO SOUND/VIBRATE whatsoever...

Friend: Hi... (you will get a sound/vibrate)

Me: hello...

Friend: how you doing (no sound/vibrate at all)

Me: good

Friend: thats good (no sound/vibrate at all)

basically when you're in the threaded SMS...you will not get a sound/vibrate notification

so if you're doing other things and your phone is sitting there with the threaded SMS open still...YOU WILL NOT GET ANY NOTIFICATION at all...so you won't even know that your friend was texting you until someone else texts you then you will see both texts now...

basically the its suppose to be like AOL AIM...get incoming IM sounds...

So far Sleuth's rom is the only rom that doesn't do that that
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ramontrotman:
even through all the madness....i love you all like i love my own kids!!! (ps....i dont have kids!...so that should tell you how much i love youz!)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lennie:
Just gonna wait

I'm just gonna wait for that rom from Dutty. Hope the bug is worked out. but Knowing dutty he'll get it fixed. Dutty, one more fan waiting for the glorious release of thy holy rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] deeznuts:
Check Out DCS v1.5

none of these problems exist in dcs v1.5, all sms/mms works perfect! best 6.1 rom out there so far.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dinamitci:
I'm using Sleuth's rom right now. But the thing you call a bug, is the future I'm looking for. It is really annoying to get sounds and notifications on screen all the time while I'm texting with some one like chatting. Any one can help me to get this 'bug' ? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] truciet:
blah if you're texting that much...you should have it on silence then! :p

but i wonder what the registery is to edit this...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mZimm:
This is why I am not a beta tester. I have noticed that bug, but didn't even think to report it or say anything. I have a text conversation, but if the window to the conversation is still open then I do not receive the beep or vibrate alerting me of a new SMS received.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kwickone:
Ditto for me (and I am sure lots of us) Dutty. Sometimes people suck....but luckily, most people don't.

Keep up the good work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] truciet:
just glad i'm not the only one :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] antjmon:
Firstly I aint brave enough to try a Dutty rom unless it came from Dutty's screen name...I tend to behave paranoid and treat my device like it really did cost a few hundred bucks. Although the leak may very well be an authentic version, I will gladly wait for the Dutty stamp of approval! Especially when comparing someone with 1-5 posts versus 2,500.

Secondly, @Dutty (or someone else who would know), just wondering if youve been privy to Sleuth's latest work UC? Its pretty much an attempt at standardizing roms and making the post-flash work less tedious.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=366337

I was wondering if the new rom will come with this feature cooked in? From what I can tell it has a very small footprint and is fairly easy to incorporate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hellz:
I hope he does, I'm still running V4 and made my SDConfig.txt today just incase.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] c.b:
With the ORIGINAL 6.1 rom and NOT the leaked ROM...did anyone have any probs with activesync or WMDC connectivity? I found that activsync / WMDC connections were very hit and miss...Miss in most cases sadly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hv_thugg:
can these rom work with my htc p4000 can i flash this on it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lusta1988:
No it wont. U should use a mogul specific rom for that. ;) GOOOD morning all!(except US users) :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Im using the Official RTM and I cannot AS to two different PC's.

I have a home and work PC, one XP Pro one XP MCE. Both Office 2k3, Syncing Contacts, Appts, tasks and notes.

I can partner and AS at work OK, but when I get home AS errors after partnership. If I delete the Parntership in AS on the phone, I can parnter and sync again. But when I get to work I get the same error again.

I am gonna re-install AS on both machines to the same version and see what happens.

Error:

---------------------------
Microsoft ActiveSync
---------------------------
ActiveSync encountered a problem on the desktop.

Support Code:86000107
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------

And Good Morning to you lusta :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
LOL it's 1:22AM. I'm still hanging.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
I thought u r insulting the guy u were responding to. Looks like my brain is not fully functional at the morning.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lusta1988:
Nope. ;) Two different sentences. Sorry for the late 'mornin' salute (for some).. i just woke up. Too sleepy i guess, but happy that the night solved some problems (or not). happy flashing today and for dutty - happy cooking (we're waiting like little babies for their food :))
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] c.b:
Thanks Dave.. Nice to know its not just me and it also happens with the newer ROM. Could it be an inherant 6.1 issue or just a glitch I wonder..Will do some testing here at work with some vista and XP machines and see what happens.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] saman2184:
password

hi all;

i can't find password for duttys wm6.1 beta

pls help me..

very thanks for dutty

:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Which Beta? There is only one offical beta from dutty and that's not passworded. It's on the download Link in my sig in the Beta folder.

Just wait for the officail one, it will be coming soon and is far superior to the one available.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] saman2184:
beta :

Duttys_WM6.1_Beta_31Jan2008.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
I didn't think it was passworded. Sorry. You would be best waiting for the official 6.1 Rom. It has the highest Benchmark scores of all dutty's Roms.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lusta1988:
Daveshaw, have you benchmarked it too? It would be great if it scores that high. I for one hope so! Also, did dutty stay on the vodafone build 199 or did he choose an earlier build. Thanx for all the info provided till now!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
I didn't do one myself, but I have been privvy to the figures. I'm sure Dutty will let you know them when he releases it.

They will probably change from the one's I have seen :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lusta1988:
vsbenchmark

I think I just answered my bench question. Idid a vsbenchmark on duttys 6.1 last public beta and with sound turned on and sd in I got 1520 score, but with sound off and sd out i got 1723 score. Also after i put the sd in, but again with sound off, i have 1713, so that explains everything! ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] c.b:
I can confirm this also and observe that the notifications work fine when NOT already viewing SMS
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] y2whisper:
Just wanted to say a quick thanks to all the beta testers for helping Dutty out, don't let the haterade being sipped on the forum take away from all of what you did to help Dutty on doing this just like Dutty is doing a good job rising above the stupid people on here. I figured i would put this in here now instead of filling up the official thread when it comes out.

As for people trying to justify getting the rom to respond to testers "showing off";

1: im sorry but i saw one or two side comments that were very light hearted and wasn't "IN YOUR FACE I GOT THE ROM" type of posts and

2: if there were that i didn't see, who cares? what are we 6? "he started it!"

Anyways looking forward to seeing the new rom (not liking these other 6.1 roms but they each have their benefits) getting my 8gb card and getting back my email account fully running (denial is da man).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] y2whisper:
yeah i have seen the no notification thing as well forcing you to exit the thread to be notified, thought i saw it in slueths as well when i tried it but i guess i was mistaken. - quite annoying
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Martincyborg@gmail.com:
moderators. The idealistic foundation of this community is highly fragile and we all need to respect the grounds on which it exists. Not many things in this world functions on the basis of trust and generosity and I think we all got a reminder, during the last days of how much we are dependent on each of us being trustworthy and respectful . I think such behavior doesn't necessarily deserve so much flaming and anger but on the other hand it shouldn't go unpunished, I suggest 1 weeks banning for those who have disrespected our main cook in this forum.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
how do you know who has been disrespectful and who has not?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Martincyborg@gmail.com:
those how have said they are using it without being duttys beta testers for starters. that should be easy, just read the thread
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ap50:
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] alexn2:
Is this a new standard on xda, most people here use unreleased products including Dutty himself (wM 6.1) so let's watch the finger pointing.

meanwhile I say to Dutty, you are doing a great job.... keep it up, I look forward to the release of your rom. You've built great roms in the past that I've used and your current beta is driving me nuts so I cant wait for new stuff.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] madrascafe:
Dutty

The downloads part of your website is not loading up. also i think its pointing to a Food Supplement website "xda.scan4.us"..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Which website?

The one in my sig appears to be working Fine?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Martincyborg@gmail.com:
hahaha. A great comedy act. Big fan. I dont think you understand the importance of loyality if you look lightly on such behaviour.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Martincyborg@gmail.com:
The future result of letting that kind of lack of loyalty pass without consequence could be that we no longer enjoy the great freedom of trust and generosity this forum has to offer. Considering that we all love this community I would not look to lightly on it. I dont get why praise dutty on one hand and not respect his wishes on the other. you are being inconsequent.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] whitesmith:
No it's not Dave. Try it yourself. I waiting on Dutty.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Still working for me. Is the site offline of just the Downloads bit. I'll let the admin know.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Shadowdh:
Hi Dave... the site loads up ok but then the downloads window just has the server cannot be found message in it with the site addy being xda.scan4 something or rather... cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
The guy who was hosting the files there has parted company with the dutty's beta site. We are looking at replacing the download area with a new one.

The guy must have moved the site, and the DNS Cache is catching up.

I will let the site admin know :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] alexn2:
Dutty deserves praise for doing good work, on the other hand the true nature of sites such as XDA (a benefit which Dutty himself gets) is the lack of loyalty. Do you think that MS wants 6.1 released on a schedule other than theirs, No. but Dutty is doing it and doing it better. let the example of the AT&T's bloatware and Dutty's work present my argument.

We can't have it both ways we all obey the rules or break them... everyone's breaking the rules
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sub69:
I'm sorry, but this community exists to "improve" Microsoft's work in a completely unauthorised, and copyright-infringing manner. None of us have a problem with THAT, however Microsoft understandably don't want their ROM's redistributed without permission.

Dutty and his test team don't want "their" ROM's redistributed without permission either.

Most people on this site are more than happy to ignore Microsoft's wishes, yet throw their arms in the air in horror when Dutty's ROM is leaked. As an example of inconsistent, that's up there with the best of them...

As far as loyalty goes, most of us would say we are loyal to the Windows Mobile OS, yet (again) we happily show no regard for the wishes of it's creator... Go figure!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jarek91:
What...no moderation? You can't break some of the rules some of the time? It's all or nothing? We can't 'break the rule' on the WM6.1 release yet still have respect for the devs and chefs that actually do the work that gives us the toys we use? Wow...that's a pretty fatalistic view of life. You don't work in the corporate world, do you? I ask because if you watch how the corporate world works...it's much like here...some rules are broken but there isn't complete anarchy. Besides...there is a difference between rules and morals.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] c.b:
Oh Man...here we go again... Anyone care for a beer?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sub69:
So who draws the line between the rules that can and can't be broken?

I don't think there's any doubt that Dutty has the respect of all of us. However there should be respect shown to Microsoft as well (after all, we all picked them over Symbian etc.) but as we've seen, that's not necessarily the way things work...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sub69:
I'm going for one in 13 minutes, so flame me quick!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jarek91:
The community in general. Much like a guild of thieves (since I'm reading some fantasy books using this very thing...) will have internal rules of conduct even though they make a living by breaking the law...we as a community have an understanding of what acceptable conduct is even though our actions are not necessarily legit. If you cannot understand that or find the idea of comparitive morality a little hard to stomach...then perhaps this is not the best place for you to participate. That's not me being mean or rude...but if you are not predisposed to this type of thinking, then you might be better suited to forums that move towards the extremes rather than walking the middle-of-the-road like we do. There are boards of haxx0rs and boards for the straight-and-narrow. Perchance one of these better suit your demeanor?

**And no, I'm not going to get into an arguement. I will participate in this as long as we are simply discussing things...and even then I'm going to limit the number of posts I make on the subject.