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[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Dishe:
When will you people learn...

You can't test your speed on Opera Mini! I promise you, you are NOT getting 2.2Mpbs+ speeds on your phone consistently.

Opera Mini is not a real web browser. The way it works is when you click on a web page, Opera downloads the page to its servers first. Then, it takes a look at the page, and takes a picture of it, taking note of where all the links appear. It then sends this "image" + link information to your phone which displays in the opera mini browser. This method is so much faster than a regular browser because your phone doesn't have to download all the information and doesn't have to do any of the processing to render the page. (This also, by the way, introduces all sorts of security questions because this is being rendered on someone else's computer before it comes to you. In other words, don't use opera mini to do your banking)

when you do a speed test, you're not seeing the speed of your phone's connection. You're seeing the speed in which Opera's server is connected to the internet, and then seeing that result as a picture sent to your phone!

In fact, the opera mini experience is the same on a high-end PDA phone as it is on a simple little nokia from 5 years ago (speed of the phone is irrelevant, its just viewing images).

Case and point- browsing on an GSM nokia 6230 using EDGE (non-3G) is not noticeably slower than browsing on a Mogul with EVDO Rev A, and both reported over 2MBps in speed tests (EDGE averages around 100kbps).

Basically, this system is ideal for web browsing like the desktop. However, it can't do any pages that require client-side processing, since your phone is not doing any of the processing. For example, pages with real-time interaction, javascript games, and especially flash animation and/or video (such as youtube) would not work under this model.

There ARE browsers that are capable of this, such as NetFront and the upcoming SkyFire, but you will most likely end up with the same laggy experience as IE because you are back to using the phone's CPU to process and render the data.

Bottom Line: What you are asking for is not out there because the concepts are worlds apart (opera mini + flash video). Using TCPMP and the flash video bundle work flawlessy for me, might want to check out the latest versions of that.

Generally, I've found that there is not perfect browser for everything (yet). I use Opera mini for regular browsing of large pages, Picsel for secure pages (such as sprint.com account information), IE for mobile-access pages (such as the mobile accuweather) and for flash video using the bundle. I used to use NetFront for pages with flash and java interaction, but I actually found it too slow and clunky for regular use. The tcpmp video bundle works much better, so I removed NetFront.

Good luck, I hope this helped someone understand the situation better!

::End of rant::
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] stevenewjersey:
Look... IE is the only thing you can find atm that is close to being full featured. The problem is on some of these roms it just plain does not have the memory to operate. NexVisions is one of them. Open just about any page and is 1mg of ram left. Other then IE you are forced to mix it up with other browsers until Skiyfire comes out.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] maskedlion:
So has anyone tested the Skyfire beta?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] defaultdotxbe:
how are you getting this to work? i have tcpmp and the FlashVideoBundle.cab but youtube videos try to open in WMP, which gives an "unknown error" error

if i force it to open in tcpmp it says the rtsp protocal is not supported

using opera mobile reporting as a desktop browser youtube doesnt even open, it just crashes the browser, i cant get PIE to report itself as anything other than PIE (so it always goes to youtube mobile)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jpurv:
I have it. It shows a lot of promise but it's still early (version # is .5). Video is pretty choppy even over WiFi. It's one of the things they're trying to polish before release.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mike-y:
Make sure you are using TCPMP version 0.72RC1, and make sure you don't have any other flash plugins installed except the flashvideobundle.

I have both installed to my device memory (not memory card).

that's it really. I can go to youtube.com in PIE, tap on a video, and a little menu pops up asking if you want to play or save the video. just tap "play" and the video starts playing within a couple of seconds, and its very smooth.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
hi.this rom for phone mi very bad..caling tell me is in eeror plz fix the bug.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Subinsmani:
oops what ur issue.. not getting ur point...
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
eror advanced seting has stoped...and reset factory data...and phone atomatic going to recovery.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
this error and bug linage 15 for phone me
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Subinsmani:
clean flash ur rom and install any gapps which is mentioned in 2nd post of this thread then see error is coming or not. just only only two things clean (catch + data) flash and install mentioned gapps.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
You have asked this before.

Clean flash your phone:

Gapps for 15.0 are in post2 of 15.0 Q&A.

https://xdaforums.com/2015-moto-g/help/unofficial-lineageos-15-0-qa-thread-t3669431

At TWRP WIPE, Do not choose "factory reset: If you do not wipe system you are wasting your time - there is a lot of old gapps and other junk from previous roms in there.

Choose Advanced and check Dalvik/ART, System, Data, Cache. ONLY!!!! Do not check Internal storage or SDcard unless you really know what you are doing - TWRP backups are out there!

Choose "Set up as New" during the install or you bring in whatever junk is on your google drive. And you will have no idea where your problems are coming from!
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rahul9999:
Clean flash again with below mentioned Gapps & also while doing first setup don't choose Restore data option..

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620755279
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
tnks ..but me all jobs this rom .delvik.che..data.wip.format...and install rom and gaps 9/ gaps 10/ but phone erorr...
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
3 people have given you instructions. You are not following them.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
tanks for gays...im whating for linage 15 original ..update orginal 14.1....7.1.2 to oreo .
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
you cannot upgrade 14.1 to 15

Must be new clean flash.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
my

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im 1instaled gaps nano pico ...not work erorr.

2.instaled rom ..not install gaps but eeror spoted ..

gaps not problem.....rom problem ...rom for xt1541 bug

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all the things that
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
Yes, but are you booting to TWRP,

choose Wipe.

choose Advanced Wipe,

tap/check

#Dalvik/ART,

#System,

#Data,

#Cache.

Then swipe "Swipe to Wipe" at bottom.

.

THEN flash rom,

Then flash one of the gapps from post2

THEN reboot.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
Hi...im anderestand error bug rom ..(.wave to silence ) toch and on active=Error....not peroblem gaaps ...problem wave to silance active....and phone caling =error and reset factory and reboot to recovery.....plz alberto im bug this rom ...plz fix in error wave to silance.

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Hi...im anderestand error bug rom ..(.wave to silence ) toch and on active=Error....not peroblem gaaps ...problem wave to silance active....and phone caling =error and reset factory and reboot to recovery.....plz alberto im bug this rom ...plz fix in error wave to silance.

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Hi...im anderestand error bug rom ..(.wave to silence ) toch and on active=Error....not peroblem gaaps ...problem wave to silance active....and phone caling =error and reset factory and reboot to recovery.....plz alberto im bug this rom ...plz fix in error wave to silance
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
re-edited: 10-4-17 @ 22:41 EST :

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[MENTION=4480917]Alberto97[/MENTION]

9-12 ROM, 10-02 nano gapps

No root.

Waving hands or phone does nothing.

Settings/System/Gestures/"Wave to silence" - if set to ON:

Incoming call results in toast

tapping "close app" and toast just re-appears. Impossible to answer or decline call.

tapping "Mute until device restarts" causes toast to not pop on future incoming calls. - reboot and first incoming call will NOT be answered.

Solution for now. Do not set "Wave to silence" to ON.

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@puma1363 I repeat - I believe your crash is the result of not wiping correctly or not choosing "set up as new" during install.

No one else that I know of has that crash. Please follow the instructions given to you very carefully. Thank you.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] customModKing:
Android is starting? Forever?

Hi, huge thanks to Alberto97 for making this custom Android 8.0 ROM for osprey, as it has been on my wishlist to upgrade my osprey to Oreo.

06/10/17

I flashed the ROM + super gApps (with gapps-config file) and when it boots up, the home screen just continuously reads

, so I don't really know what to do...

07/10/17

Fixed: I just edited the gapps-config file so that it included Pixel Launcher, then reflashed the super gApps and it works fine now :D
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoneWolfGaming:
Idk...

I think the is only a kid because he cant follow directions and im surprised he was even able to flash it in the first place...no offense intended.

PS: i didnt trust others so i compiled my own gapps for this one and it worked just fine
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xMotoDA:
Maybe clean flashing wasn't necessary. I faced this issue when I installed Lineage OS 15 and it was solved by Going to Settings > System > Gestures and disabling call-related actions.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pratyushshopping:
Whenever Im in Some App and a Call comes.

Then I grt a popup 'Advanced Settings has stopped working'.

Then I get another popup saying 'Factory Reset'

Then boots in TWRP Recovery
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
Yiou didn't clean flash.

Especially important is including /system in initial wipe.

Also during first startup, choose "set up as new".

Follow this

EXACTLY

:
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BenjyTec:
Disable all gestures in settings and try again.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pratyushshopping:
Thanks!

BUT I did Advanced Wipe Wiped everything except Internal Sd, Ext Sd card and OTG.

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Tried :). Doesn't seem to work
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rahul9999:
Clean flash with this Gapps & confirm if possible https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620755279
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
On the install then did you choose "Set up as new"?

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I no longer know if that is correct since he uses an extra module gsflogin which was used in 7.1, but not in 8.0 Better to use the gapps from post 2 from my google drive.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
hi...phone me this bug you....go to seting wave to sailenc off...error ok....rom linage 14.1 is beter

but linage 15 bage .
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
http://opengapps.org is good now (except aroma - no support)
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
What time does it support higher gapps?

how time linage 15 support gaaps mini...stock..and arome ?????? how time??
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
read the post right above this.

I don't understand what you are asking.

maybe try writing in your language into google translate and then posting the english translation.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
this rom linage 15/ not suport gapps mini.stock.and up....only install pico.nano..

what time support ggaps mini and up???

anderestand???
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
LineageOS 15.0 supports gapps of any size.

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Is your G3 a 1GB/8GB phone?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
me what time install gapps mini..or stock the rom linageos 15??
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
this rom only support gapps pico and nano?????
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
yes
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
You may use any gapps that will fit on your phone.

The problem is that only pico and nano will fit on the 1GB/8GB phone, and probably pico is best.

It is not a problem of the ROM.

It IS a problem of the size of the phone.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
rom linage os 14.1 phone me support all Gapps and install all Gapps...but rom linageos 15 only pico and nano...im forced dawnload youtobe...google map and...
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
I guess you'll have to use 14.1
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
Yes, I'm one year old, but I've installed Ram Alberto for the exam, but it does not work with Gapps other than the nano pico. In version 14.1, everything works fine. New Grams support all Gapps
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
When you say "doesn't support" what error message do you get?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
It stays in recovery and stays in error
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
My point is why all the gaps are supported in 14.1, but not in 15
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
you Try it out after a clean flash and install a rom 15 times to Gapz. Try the Mini Gingerbread. See All. All is visible.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
for me linage 14.1 all Gapps worked...but 15 only pico .nano worked...you try ...install 15.Gapps mini and error
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
When did you download that gapps?

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opengapps.org was broken for Oreo 8 until a few days ago. Fixed now. Download a new one from opengapps.org
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
im dawnload open_gapps-arm-8.0-mini-20171015 but not work .im wahit Gapps all Gapps and rom 15 fix and mach ....tanks for time...
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
What did it do?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puma1363:
Clean up the phone. Install it 15. Install it and Gapps mini. reboot. not work. I think the oreo is still not ready for this ROM.I'm sure Gapps is not ready for the oreo 8 yet(mini.stock.aroma)

only work pico and nano.
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
Not work how?

What does Settings / System / Developer Options / Memory show?
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrisM22:
You simply are running out of memory on your 1GB phone. Check Settings / System / Developer Options / Memory
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] ledvedder:
I'm curious if anyone is considering moving to the V30? The better screen and newer processor does intrigue me.
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] brandonpa:
Absolutely! Dumping the g6 as soon as I can. I just hope that they fix the issues that the g6 has before releasing it.
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] ledvedder:
What issues are you having?
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] brandonpa:
1. Well the first major issue is that I can't get this phone to connect to a 5ghz network, I know others can but for some reason my phone cannot (see screenshot). it finds them, but "disabled" them when I try to connected (yes I am using the right password to connect). The 2.4 connects, but I get random drops in connection all of the time at differing intervals.

2. I get dropped calls all of the time, even when I am in an area with full service and sometimes when I am on a call I can hear the other people fine, but they can't hear me at all. I had to disable VoLTE because the calls 'sounded' good but everything was digitized and half of the time everything was scrambled and unable to understand them.

3. Camera - I am still not quite sure why many are comparing this camera to the Galaxy S8 or Iphone. The pictures that I take with this phone are abysmal. The night photos are grainy and the day photos look great on this screen, but as soon as I look at them with a larger screen they are unfocused and unclear. I get it, I can switch to manual mode and mess around with the settings to make the pictures "phenomenal" as I have been told, but that takes time, and by the time that I have the right settings for a good picture, my wife's S8 could have taken 10 pictures that look so much better than this camera can take. (yes I have wiped the lens off, it is clean and I am using the LG camera program).

4. Battery: I had this phone since may, and I am lucky to get 12 hours on a charge (from 100% to 20%) with light duty usage. I know that is subjective and is affected by what programs that you use and how much you use the phone throughout the day, but on the Galaxy S6 Plus that I had, after a year I was still getting 18-24 hours on similar usage with the battery.

I know that I keep referring back to Samsung Phones for my examples, but that is the comparison that I have to this phone. I have used Sammy phones for the past 4 years and, personally, I wanted to switch to LG to get off of the Sammy phones because I am not a Samsung fanboy. They have their issues and those issues were big enough to cause me to switch to LG for this phone.

I have taken the phone back to the store and, of course, everything 'magically' works when I am there, so they won't touch it or replace it. Thus, I am dropping this phone as soon as I humanly can.

Thanks and I hope that you don't have the same issues that I have, as it seems people either love or hate this phone and unfortunately I hate it.

Brandon
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] ledvedder:
Wow, that's crazy. I don't have any issues like that with mine.
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] zPacKRat:
I've had mine replaced twice for dropping calls, so bad that the radio icons would literally disappear and reappear, dropping the call or WiFi.
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] Polarbert:
I was thinking about ordering a G6 today, but after reading about the V30 think that it may be the way to go. A lot of what made me reconsider was in this forum, and how much the G6 is restricted by TMo. I have a rooted LG G4 which has been fine after being fixed for the bootloop problem. I've just been bitter about having to put lineage on it.
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] brossovitch:
Yes! I'm planning on returning one of my G6's via JUMP! and upgrading to a v30. Probably within the next month. I'm waiting for a good promotion and a few paychecks. But definitely getting one to use side by side with my paid off G6 & LineageOS G4.
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] AsItLies:
I'm just curious (new to LG - except for my Nexus 5)...

What makes you assume the V30 would be better than the G6?
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] theFume:
I second this question. It'll probably be even more locked down than the G6, if thats possible.
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] brandonpa:
I also ask the same question (despite wanting to dump the g6), to me it is the assumption that the fixed the problems that plagued the G6. Or it is just because i don't like the g6 enough that I hope that phone is better in 'any' way at this point.
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] ledvedder:
I find that my G6 tends to lag a lot. I'm afraid the V30 will also since it has the same 4GB of memory.
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] brandonpa:
I saw that as well. I also saw some reviews that despite the phone being very well made, the screen is junk? Anyone see or hear the same issue?
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] Globespy:
Not a chance in hell.

Worst phone experience I've had in years.

Camera glass cracked from what I can only conclude is expansion and not enough tolerance in the design to have a water resistant phone. I'm not alone in this issue by any means, LG refused to acknowledge it, instead screwing customers over for overpriced repairs. I appreciate that some users are rough with their devices and likely caused the damage but I baby my phones and this was not user caused in my case and no doubt many others.

Removing the ability to access root is a deal breaker for me. It's not that the phone isn't nice to use, and I don't need a bunch of niche apps.

It's quite simply that being locked down is IMO a deliberate move between TMobile and LG to limit any version upgrades that lengthen the life of a device and cannibalizes their 'jump' programs and phone purchases in general. This is evidenced by the fact that it's still on the very base 7.0 version of Android Nougat (no interest in giving customers the important Google incremental updates).

Oreo having been out for months, I doubt this phone will see it.

I tend to keep phone's longer than a year, my previous Nexus 5 was nearly 4 years old when I got the G6, and had I kept it, would be running Oreo right now instead of Nougat!

Fool me once shame on you..... Fool me twice shame on me. Not gonna happen.

Buying a pixel outright and chopping phone insurance and the jump plan costs from my bill.

YMMV - but you did ask for user opinions! That means the good and the bad.
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] Macguyver:
I wanted the V30, and was waiting to get one but needed to add a line in late august for one of my kids so I got a pair of G6's for $500 on a bogo. Honestly, this might be the best phone I've had to date. I get great battery life, the camera is great, and the performance is great. I disable everything I can that I don't use and its been fine. Plenty of storage for me.

So with all that said, I just don't see there being enough of an upgrade in the V30. The quad dac will not do much for me because I stream my music from spotify. While the camera may be an upgrade, I'm not sure its $550 better after I use my jump. Screen is a little bigger and I think the minor gains in battery life will be negligible. Plus, the screen issues I'm hearing about on both the V30 and Pixel XL 2 have me thinking I'm just fine staying on the G6 with its LCD screen for a few more months.

Bottom line, I don't think its a huge upgrade for me especially when I factor in the cost. I'll be Jump eligible by next spring, May use it on the G7 or wait for the V40.
[T-Mobile LG G6 Questions & Answers] HKSpeed:
I was excited for the V30, but I read the LED screen is not great. Some say its good, others says it's terrible. Everyone agrees it's not as good as Samsung's LED screens. I own several Samsung LED devices, so I'll probably notice the difference. Maybe the later batches of the V30 (2018 build dates) will be better. The later batches of the G5 and G6 fixed some of the imperfections of the first batches.