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[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] LluisAzm:
Hi!

I understand you are on Stock ROM 8.1. Now I am all stock with locked bootloader, I don't know how many time I will resist! jaja

My idea would be be on stock ROM with unlocked bootloader and Flash Kernel, but I have never had this combination, OTA will be active or I will have to flash OTAs and reflash Kernel and Magisk with TWRP?

Thanks!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Once you have root and twrp, your OTA's will not work. Personally, I haven't taken on OTA in over 5 years. I strictly rely on flashing factory images with adb/fastboot. It's pretty much fool proof once you learn it properly. Not to mention you generally get them quicker than OTA's, and you can easily recover or restore your phone with the factory images :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] LluisAzm:
Ok, thanks! I don't use to be on stock neither... Few months flash stock to be on 8.1 beta with Nexus 6P, missing root to switch off screen with gesture, adblock, custom kernel and TWRP in general. I hope this weekend will come back to the "insecure" bootloader error on every boot jajaja

Regards!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Hell yeah! Unlock the crap outa that thing, root that sucker, and flash away!! :good::good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
Got my phone 2 days ago, second charge:

:cyclops:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Not bad :laugh::laugh:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] styckx:
Finally went a full charge cycle without rebooting, charging somewhat, or flashing etc.. I'm impressed... Over 50hrs off charge and still got 5hrs SOT with 19% left and I'm a heavy Chrome and Tapatalk user which aren't the most battery light apps in the world. I've got 5hrs before in a heavy day usage when I'm working but haven't tried stretching the charge out with more light usage on my days off yet. Standby time is equally impressive and really helps with that SOT..

My Nexus 6P would never have dreamed of this. The standby time is just incredible. To see flat-lining on the graph over a 50hr span is nice! I'd easily squeak over another hour out of the battery if I went to empty.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Wow that's some impressive off the charger time!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
That slope looks the same as my Nexus 6p but would only last for 5 hrs ever since I unlocked the bootloader.

so pushed me to get the pixel 2 xl and fighting the urge to unlock it so I can have a flash light I just hold power to turn on
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] antoine27:
How do you do that?? :confused::good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
What's the link to Oreo+ and your using ex kernal anything else we should know?

What install setting you use for ex kernal defaults?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Believe me, it's nothing special. It's all about usage patterns. I can get these results with whatever kernel you can name with stock settings. I'm rooted with a magisk module that dozes google play services. I also use My Android Tools from the play store that I use to shut down background running services on some of my apps. I'm retired, so I'm on wifi most of the day. I do lots of reading on xda and chrome. I talk on the phone about an hour a day, and send 30 or so texts a day. Now, my results would be much different if I were out working and moving like I do in the Summer on a local farm I work at for charity, and not on wifi, with the phone not being allowed to sleep because of all the movement. Always remember, SOT is too subjective to be taken seriously. However, a rouge app, or an unknown internal issue with your device can be a battery sucker as well. So it behooves one to know what your device is doing. :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
I do agree you probably don't use your phone as much but I still tried to install magisk successful then installed elemental and showed I lost root do you know what I am missing?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
You have to flash magisk after you flashed your kernel for root to work.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
Ok thanks magisk says flash kernal first but elemental says magisk first then elemental did elemental s way first on my Nexus 6p and this new update it kept it from booting had to flash stock boot image only could get magisk working
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Yep, it's opposite from the 6p. Reason being that magisk has to patch the kernel to allow root. Glad you got it though :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
Yeah worked thanks
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] timdoggg:
7 hours and it could have been easily closer to 8
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
PlayStation app used up a good amount for a short period of time. What was going on there?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] timdoggg:
Did a bit of browsing of the PS store, was surprised it used so much battery. Sony has some work to do clearly
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
I've been noticing similar results. It seems to be about 12%/hr for screen on use and about 0.4%/hr for standby.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
When the 6p first came out I could go 8 hrs off charge only loosing 1% and 12 hrs heavy use was easy one year later I had to be tethered to a battery even after some replacements I hope pixel2 is not going to be the same
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Yasharkhan:
How are you getting 7 hours of SOT, I charge my phone till 80% and I'm getting 3:30-4:00 hours of SOT, what's your location settings? Adaptive brightness on or off? And what other settings you're using?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] timdoggg:
Location ON/High accuracy

Adaptive brightness ON

Ambient display set to New Notifications

Brightness is always less than 50%

That's all I can think of now

Post a screenshot showing your app usage and another with full device usage
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
I agree with him, in this device is easy to get 6-7 hrs. SOT over a day or little more, as long as you don't have any app draining your battery and you have a good signal. Poor signal always drains battery like a monster, so it also depends on your location and signal. I have been able to do 9-10 hrs. SOT over a day with really heavy usage.

I have pretty much the same configuration, and also Wi-Fi and Bluetooth enabled all the time because I don't like to be enabling and disabling settings each time I want something to work. Half of my day is at work with mobile data and the other half at home with Wi-Fi. Bluetooth for listening to music in the car.

I don't have many apps, actually no more than 35 including the ones that come pre-installed in the phone, and each app and setting I configure them manually. Usually it takes me around 2-3 hours to configure each option from the phone and each option from all the apps, but that's how I assure that everything works the way I want.

;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Wow you keep it super minimal. [emoji106]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
Yes, I try to do that always, and besides, I don't need any other apps for my daily life.

I just have some banking apps, WhatsApp, the normal Google things, Android Auto, a taxi app, Kiosco (for news), Hearthstone and Hue for my lights at home. I don't have social networks, because are kind of useless for me and I never was into them; maybe I'm old and that's why.

Other than that, pre-installed apps give me pretty much everything I need in a daily basis because 70% of the time I have a computer available and I can do all the other things from there.

I'm kind of a light user, and probably 90% of the phones out there could serve the same, but I was so used to the Nexus line that I decided to give a try to this one.

;)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah sounds like a Pixel 2 XL is overkill for your usage but it should age better than any other phone. Just curious, in settings under "apps and notifications" what's your all apps number at? I try to keep it minimal and I'm at 96. Used to be 120 or 130+ I think.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Galaxo60:
54 for me.

:D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] YoungSkeezy:
Loving this RMA. Zero issues at all, everything is perfect. And dat battery life. No root or anything!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] JokerAce:
Here's mine. Very happy with it!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] TheMysteryouse:
I seem to never have luck with phones, coming from the S6 which had horrible battery life I can for sure say that this is an upgrade, but looking at all the results here from people getting 5h standby and over 20h idle and still having 50% battery left just blows my mind.

No clue what could be the culprit
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
I'm no expert, but in your case, just going off the pics, I'd say, instagram, snapchat, chrome, and whatsapp. Social media apps, combined with the camera, are battery killers! SOT is too subjective of a measurement to give too much credence to. Actually, given your usage, that's really not that bad. The big numbers you see posting, are not comparable to your usage patterns. Case in point, look at my numbers. I don't do social media, and am on wifi 90% of the time, and, my phone just sits a lot of times, so the movement sensor is inactive much of the time allowing the phone to sleep ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
What you use your phone for paper weight?

Is that viper rom you using? How do you like it?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Yep...I just let it sit there with the screen on! ?

Nah..it's just stock rooted with some themeing :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
Have you tried it in safe mode?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Nope. Haven't had a need or want to ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] satyamarora85:
still getting this?

Also, with wifi off the whole time, is it normal to get a little less than this?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Social media apps don't drain a huge amount like they used to but they still load a whole lot more media then something like a forum app. So an hour on Facebook or Instagram will eat up a lot more battery than XDA, Tapatalk, or even web browsing.

Also, the easy way to get great standby time is by starting off at 100% and unplugging before you sleep. That's an automatic 7+ hours of just standby with a few percent lost at most. Sometimes 0% lost.

If I wanted to I could get 7 hours standby one night, have a busy 12 hour shift and get something like only 1 hour SOT, conscious light use at night with maybe 1 to 1.5 hour SOT, and get another 7 hours standby, and would probably still have a good 35-40% in the morning. Now that I mentioned it, I actually haven't done an endurance test like that. It's probably because I always plug in and track my sleep with Sleep As Android.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] lcousin885:
I need help!

Ive had this phone for less than a week and nothing bad about it other than the battery life. all i use is snap chat and clash of clans. Im running stock pixel launcher have not changed any settings and i get roughly 7 1/2 hours and them im reaching for the charger. any tips or tricks would be wonderful or ill have to return this beauty. PS this is my 2nd phone i already returned the other one.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
I use YouTube and vikings war of clans 12hr 42 min off charger

screen usage 5hr 6minutes

YouTube 1hr 56min

Vikings 1hr 18

Facebook 44mins

Chrome 15 minutes

You can try elemental xl and use the battery save feature if you'd like more time but I feel these are rather good

Finish the day with 31%

I have everything on GPS Bluetooth nfc screen displaying in dark mode always on.

What phone have you gotten better life from?

You may need to find any rogue apps I got orbot from the play store and imidiatly after installing it I had battery issues got rid of it in 3 days I have typical Nexus 6p battery usage
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
7.5 hours of SOT or off the charger? If that's SOT, that's not bad battery at all.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] otonieru:
i can say that this phone has a decent battery life for my usage kind of style...

if only google go with 4000mAH like what huawei do in mate 10 pro (which i believe they actually can do) this phone can be a beast, since stock android drain less battery on idle as long as the play services not going rogue
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] ram4ufriends:
Wow..you call 8h SOT with 31% battery remaining decent? What other phone gives more than that?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] otonieru:
My old Mate 10 did, LoL

If only the development for those phone were better, i wont buy this pixel to begin with :silly:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah 8 hours is great. Decent is almost like saying it's average which the Pixel 2 XL isn't.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Quadrider10:
This is the best I've ever gotten. 4G all day with reading, movies, games, fb, and chrome. Best I've ever gotten on a phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
Pixel 2 xl is 312 on the list https://www.futuremark.com/hardware..._default/filter/+android+winrt+windowsshowall

Zte Nubia z17 has 14hrs 22mins with the snapdragon 835

Android 7.1 though ...3200mah
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
It's based off only benchmarks though right? The Pixel 2 is 193 but in real world use I'm pretty sure it's not getting better SOT than the 2 XL. So I would take the ranking lightly especially with people clearly getting more than the 7 hours and 6 minutes listed.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
You got that right! :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
I don't like your screenshots :D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Sorry man! ???
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Jinthegodstyle:
what you drinked again and you have this sot? :D:D

Are you using any kernel or its stock everything?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Nah..nothing special. I just like showing how subjective SOT is based on ones usage and surroundings. I'm running DU rom, Flash kernel(stock settings) the magisk module for GSM doze, and My Android Tools app from the play store to shut down some of my apps background processes. I'm also retired, on wifi 80% of the time, don't do social media, not much YouTube, and the phone gets to sleep a lot since it's not on my person much of the day. Fast forward to spring/summer when out farming, and that SOT will drop dramatically :cool:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Jinthegodstyle:
Aha...fine then,like this i can understand! :P because these kind of SOT i saw them only with mate 10 pro..but as i see most of it,its from xda forum..(i use a lot of facebook,youtube,instagram) and i have like 9-10 hours maximum SOT with wifi only and light ~30% with 1 - 1,5 day usage.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Can you tell what apps you block and exact services?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
No the way they send the stat is you have to run the app and it will wait for you to put back on a charger has to be charged at least to 80% then discharged to 20%

With a calibrated screen to 200 CD/m2

Pixel 2 is 193 pixel 2 xl is 312

The zte performance score is lower though with 6525 pixel 2 xl is 7136 pixel 2 7227
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
But there's an actual battery benchmark test in the app. How are you so sure the numbers aren't skewed because of those? And I don't see in the app where it actually says it gets stats between 80% and 20% usages.

Edit:

Correction. It's literally running your phone from at least 80% down to 20%. As I mentioned early, it IS a benchmark app. NOT real world use.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
I don't doubt the numbers could be skewed but I believe the posted numbers are averaged my best performance was 6925 that was the first time running have not ran battery because been didn't want to calibrate screen
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
But they can be as with your last words of "didn't want to calibrate screen". Two phones, one on the lowest brightness and one at 50%, are going to show differences. How many out there are actually calibrating their brightness for tests like this?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
They are still doing what they can to standardize the test. And it is an average. If I were picking a phone just from the benchmarks I'd use theirs but I picked this phone for more then that. And in no means am I trying to sway anyone I'm just putting that info out there.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
[MENTION=3730810]Badger50[/MENTION]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Sorry man, I forgot to respond. Some things the app will do on it's own after you've granted root. Now, things like zedge, my local news app, dictionary, theScore(sports) Sonos,and a particular weather app, like to run in the background a lot. So, I shut their background processes off. They are still functional when I open them, which is only when I need them, and that's all I want them to do. I don't want their notification stuff, and that fixes it. To know what's running, I just look in developer options/running services. And see what the processes are, then go back to the app, and turn off that service. And that's it ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Interesting might give it a shot

Thanks

Cheers ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] noking:
Is GPS on??? And what about adaptive brightness ? if GPS on is it on high accuracy or battery saving mode
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
I think you quoted me wrong :silly:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Because why not:D
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Why not what???? ????
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
:crying::D:silly:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] chinhe:
i barely get 4 hours SOT with mine, Always on 4G btw.. facebook, xda app and viber Messaging.. any suggestion?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
Uninstall the last app you noticed the battery drain factory reset using twrp re install updated kernal, root I had a little less battery after trying to update my kernal and root and after redoing it i got a little bit more battery
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] chinhe:
Thnx bro. I wanted to keep without rooting my xl2 i should probably root:(
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] gjkrisa:
If you are completely stock then just factory reset and set up as new phone only download the apps you need stay away from odd looking ones even on the play store then get your baseline of how long it should last then slowly add other apps give it a week before downloading odd apps

Also there are other tricks of resetting app preferences but for me that never worked
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
What's your brightness set to? That makes a decent difference. And send some screenshots of your battery usage when your down to 15% or less.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] sublimaze:
Facebook and FB Messenger are known battery hogs. Uninstall those and your battery life will improve dramatically.

I remained stock for a month because I wanted to see what this phone would do out of the box. Then I wanted to see how battery life would change with root tweaks. My standby drain went from 3% (stock) to 0.3% (rooted). Is that worth rooting? For me, yeah. But you don't need to root to improve battery life. Just get rid of battery vampires like FB and other apps that constantly run in the background.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Old wives tales by now really. They're NOT constantly running in the background anymore. You can check the background usage for that and if you want, even turn off background running on a per app basis within app info if you think it is. I've gotten 7-8 hours SOT with Facebook, FB Messenger, Twitter, Google+, Instagram installed and all able to run in the background.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] styckx:
This has been my best yet... Elemental X as my Kernel and Doze for GMS enabled. Stock ROM. I could easily hit the 7hr mark before 0% but I need to charge up my phone before I head to bed. My Nexus 6P would've been dead a day ago... Let alone almost 7hrs of screen on time over 48hrs since last charge.. I'll take it! Fantastic.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Phazonclash:
I'm doing pretty good so far (unrooted)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
That's very good. You happen to take an app usage screenshot?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] bala_gamer:
Excellent battery ,got 1 day 6 hours standby with 5+ hours sot ,still 19 percent left...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] nookie1916:
The best results I've been able to get since getting the phone a couple weeks ago. Granted was just home all day on Wi-Fi but still tremendous.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Holy crap. How is that even possible?

You are on pace for 14 hours SOT over 36 hours off the charger. Did you really not plug in at all during that time? Something just doesn't seem right about that. That's almost TWICE what I get.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Prattham:
Chill

He doesn't use any social media apps which are battery hogging plus he is retired so his phone is. Mostly on a desk sitting and dozing

So there is that [MENTION=3730810]Badger50[/MENTION] i remember you once uploaded your color profile for me but i cannot find it do you mind again? Also i have enabled saturated in settings so do i go to natural first and then apply via exkm? Your profile was aimed at which colors?

Cheers ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Even without sitting idle for a long time that's still crazy. Even if I just took my phone off the charger at 100% and used it until it was dead(no idle time) just browsing on WiFi I still wouldn't get anywhere close to 14 hours SOT. That would only be like 7%/hr. That's insane. The best I have ever seen is like 11%/hr.

As far as social media apps the only one I use is Facebook which is actually much less of a battery hog than Chrome.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] dane1312:
My battery life so far so good!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
Here ya go Mr. Prattham. My base color profile is saturated, then I apply the EXKM profiles on top of that. Nice job remembering my battery usage patterns. Just goes to show how SOT can be very deceiving ????

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12LGcLTX_4H6IHtLgHAXJvTsZ76B6uPLv/view?usp=drivesdk
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
If you use your phone for primarily like an e-reader, it's possible.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Even if that were true (which I'm still skeptical of) I doubt that is the case here. The poster of that screen shot is a regular contributor and the screenshot shows XDA Labs as the app using the most battery. I doubt that kind of person is just using a smartphone (that costs $850 or more) as just an eReader.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah I've seen his screenshots. XDA Labs or any forums app isn't very CPU/GPU heavy. It's mostly text, some pics/videos but they're small and compressed, and 0 graphics use. So pretty much "e-reader-like" use.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
I've never used that app but I suspect it uses a data connection. It seems to me that it would be similar to using a web browser to view similar content(like I am now using a Chrome to view this page). Using nothing but a browser on the Pixel 2 XL from 100% to 0% is maybe 10 hours with no standby time. That screenshot shows 7 hours screen on time plus an additional 11 hours of standby time and still having 50% battery left. The XDA Labs app may be better on battery than Chrome but not THAT much better. The poster must have charged in that time.