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[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Your estimate of 1 day and 9 hours is great. You must have really light usage. I notice your battery saver mode is already on at 30%. Did you just set it to auto turn on at 30% or do you run battery saver all the time?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Opius90:
Battery saver was turned on when I took the pictures :) just in case something happened.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Rajaasim1980:
Getting 6 to 6.30 hours screen on time on 4G data with brightness set to 80 to 85 percent
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
What is your feeling about the battery life with the February patch?

For me nothing, or just a slightly improvement, but nothing special.

Do you disable the battery saver (or management) or not?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I'm happy with it on my light use days when at work. Considering my phone is 15 months old, it's doing pretty well.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
I think I'm gonna back to December patch.

Battery life was a lot better.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I doubt it. It's all in your head man. But do what you want.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
I don't think so.

In December I reach easly 7-8h of SOT. Now it's only 5-6h
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Well whether or not you get back to 7-8 hours of SOT, let us know in the thread. I never really see people say it worked for them after stating they're going back.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] seabro01:
I'm not seeing any difference in battery life after Feb patch. Still getting around 7 hrs SoT with adaptive brightness, few hrs BT, 1.5-2 hrs data and a couple hrs video. And that's after boosting performance a bit with custom kernel.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
Which custom kernel?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] seabro01:
ElementalX
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Rotten Ross:
Pixel 2 user here, as no one on the pixel 2 forums bate talking about this I thought I'd post here

Since Feb update my battery seems pretty messed up

Screen on time around 3hrs and nothing seems to be the cause of the drain.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
In comparison to what? Have a screen shot of prior updates?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Rotten Ross:
No screenshot but previously around 6hrs SOT within the same charge cycle. Regardless the SOT from my post is pretty bad
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I don't think it's the SOT that is bad. It's your stand-by time. Nearly 3 hours over a 27 hour period is very light usage yet you should have more battery if your stand-by was good. In comparison, I have about the same SOT in my screenshots yet have 23-27% more battery left.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Rotten Ross:
As I said before I updated to Feb patch I was constantly getting 6hr sot, I guess I will have to keep an eye on it and hopefully it will sort itself out.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Right I got that but I'm just saying it looks like you didn't even have enough usage to get 6 hours of SOT. I do 6 hours over a 18 hour off the charge. Just saying.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
My worst SOT ever.

10% Lost, 30min of SOT. It's 2,5 time less than 2 months ago.

What is the problem.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I've noticed a quicker drop in percentage after being in doze overnight which appears to be your situation. I wouldn't be surprised if you still get 6 hours or more SOT for your entire battery life off the charger which is very respectable.

Dude, your estimated time off the charger is 2 days and 23 hours!?! Highest I've ever gotten was 23 hours. You got some seriously light usage going on.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
Yeah it's because I'm working from 8 pm to 6 pm so I don't have time to use it.

The battery life feeling for my is very low. I know that before January and February paths I was enable to made 1h10 -15 of SOT with 10% (videos, socials medias, tech articles etc....)

So I think this weekend I'm gonna flash the OTA from December to get better battery life.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
You were getting 10-15 hours of SOT easily every charge? If so, even that's something of a rarity and not normal. 5.5-6.5 hours SOT seems to be about most commonly stated SOT here. Like I said in a reply to you before, go back to December and let us know how it turns out for you. I would be surprised if it makes that big of a difference.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
Not 10 but 7-8 because socials app are battery killer (I have just snap and facebook)

But when I was coming back to my home in train, I was reading a press article about tech. 30 min of reading, I lost 15%. 15% for you reading, it's crazy.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Do you usually read on the train and is there good service while on it? Poor service can drain it during that time.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
I was also in this train in December, and I never notice a lot of drain. With the same activity (tech articles) I lost 2-3% no more in 30min.

The Data are excellent on the trip. 4G everywhere.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] sandip_909:
Not bad.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
Update 1;

I flash the OTA Factory Image of December but the phone made the update tout February patch.....

So alaways the same drain, but I don't charge phone after the update (I'm currently at 48%)

I hope a full charge will improve battery life
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Great numbers! Tops mine from the other day but I've never had 1 day or more estimates. How many months is your phone?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] novas78:
Here's mine
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] novas78:
I forgot this one
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] sandip_909:
Almost 4 hours sot at 50% is great.

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Mines 13 months old now.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
What is the minimum percentage you left on your phone before poweroff it ?

I heard about 15% and 20% to not damage battery
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Are you taking about long term storage? I never power it off (on purpose, it has died on me less than a handful of times) but 15-20% sounds about right.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] von_block:
I never read any studies talking about a minimal Li ion battery level that could damage the battery. Except of course when it's below 0% and the protection unit has to engage.

The only thing that reduce its life expectancy a bit is high battery internal voltage (charging over 80%) cold charging (that create lithium crystallisation), too much heat, and fast charging speed. More than 1C.

There was a recent scientific study made that evaluated the most damaging aspect of charging and the number one cause is high battery internal voltage.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0378775317305876
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
One time I let my phone goes to 0% andz switch itself off, so I don't know if i'ts damage it
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] von_block:
No
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] andrea.ippo:
Can you show the battery % and active time values for Google Play Services please?

I want to compare with mine to see if Play Services is preventing me to reach similar SOTs to yours. I used to get that kind of SOT but can't anymore, and I wonder if it's because of Play Services, a bad app, or aging battery (March 2018)...

Thanks! :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] novas78:
Here you are
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] andrea.ippo:
Thanks. And how much is the battery %?

Cause I also got almost no time spent on it (2 mins while in active use as per screenshot), but battery used is reported as 17%!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] novas78:
Today's stats
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] andrea.ippo:
Doesn't even appear in the list? That's insane,

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It doesn't even appear in the list? That's insane!
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] novas78:
I've never had a problem with Google Play Services.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] von_block:
To see play service % used you need to tap the 3 dots at the top end and click on total time.

Anyway for me, play service is at 3% after 2 days on and 7 hours screen on time
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Maybe you have something that's constantly trying to sync?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] seabro01:
Still getting good SoT with ElementalX. Started at 95%.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
It's just amazing :good:

What are the + of flashing Elemental X? I'm a novice in this world
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] andrea.ippo:
Can't find any major offenders in battery historian, neither in the sync nor in the userspace wakelock sections :(

I admit I have a smart thermostat app that uses location (geofencing I guess) to know when I'm home or not, but even NLP events aren't that huge to justify the battery usage % for Play Services, in my opinion.

The only figure that seems high in my report is the mobile radio active time due to Play Services...

I would attach my report in case someone'd be willing to help me out
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
My Sot.

I noticed that data suck my battery a lot. You can see the vertical drop of battery, I was not playing or anything, just reading some tech app like "FrAndroid" nothing special.

In wifi it's "correct" but data mobil are battery killer now since December patch.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Curious but why do you even turn off your phone?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
I don't know. I always did that
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Like what if someone is trying to get in touch with you? I hate when my father in law turns his phone off to "save battery". [emoji23]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
I dont turn off my phone to save battery, it's just a reflex
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
OMG 7h, it's just amazing.

I gonna start to think that this phone is alive.

One time battery life is bad, the other day excellente
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
Edit 1:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Were you more on Wi-Fi that time instead of mobile data?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
I was in DATA all the morning and the battery life was exellent....I don't understand.

Maybye it's because I let my phone all the nigh plug to the charger, because the rest of the time, I charge my phone and when it's 100% I unplug it and let him off.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] andrea.ippo:
This is impressive, especially the flat line for long periods of time, which I can't get on mine anymore.

How old is your battery, and how much % and time is it reporting for Google Play Services?

For the record, attaching my stats. Consider that the not so flat line is tonight's sleep in SAFE MODE, and it's still going down slightly.

I start to think that my battery is aging, or my cell signal is crap (although I used to get flat lines before in the same place, so...)

I already factory reset twice, once with a backup restored, the second time started from scratch. No idea.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
My phone is 3 months old, but he was build in 2017.

Facebook, Snapchat and Messenger have limited acces to battery (thanks to the option, with no data Access in backgrounds)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] eruben:
Battery life is horrible after Feb update. Really hope they'll fix it on March.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] von_block:
I don't know men.

8 hours screen on time over almost 2 days is quite good in my opinion.

Maybe factory reset?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
February was just fine for me. Just able to hit 6 hours SOT which is very good considering my phone 16 months old. What were you getting with the January update compared to the February one?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] eruben:
That's what I call good battery life. Glad it's returned with Match update.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
That's great. Good is an understatement. You still didn't say what you got with February compared to January.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] eruben:
Nothing was changed. just drop in battery life, not more than 6.5 hours
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
That is a big change if you get 9 hours SOT on the regular. Glad it's back for you.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
March seems better. I near the 7h.

I will made a hard reset and see tomorrow what happen
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
So after hard reset (trough bootloader) My battery life is worst.

It's the same battery life with january-february patchs
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] shinigami777:
I'm not expert but after hard rest battery need some time. Give it few days it should be better.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
Maybye, I hard reset my phone last weekend but I charge it one times since this moment.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
Well it's better.

I can make the conclusion that data mobile suck a lot more than WiFi since the January path.

But i don't know why Pixel Launcher drain battery like this.

Hopfully, I have wifi at my job.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
50 minutes of Pixel Launcher makes me think you were browsing Google Discover page a good amount.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
Yep I use it few times.

But in "Option pour les développeurs" i desactivate system tracking"

And the battery l'idée seems way better
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
How did you manage 4 days off the charger AND 8 hours screen on time? With 8 hours of screen on time I can get a day.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] von_block:
Look at his usage, there's no app used except 90 minutes of YouTube.

It's like he only turn the screen on and did nothing with the phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Droid_Nut:
I am using the Magisk Module ACC to make my battery last longer, not a real heavy SOT type of guy, but at the end of the day, of my first day, of the new phone, charged to 80% overnight, I still had 25% left at the end of the day. And you all know how much we use our phones, and tinker when we first get them.

Check out VR25's module, and donate if you like it. :good:

https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/module-magic-charging-switch-cs-v2017-9-t3668427
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Yeah, I missed that. Even then it's still impressive. Even if I had just used 1hr 20 minutes of YouTube and just left the screen on for the other ~6.5 hours doing nothing I still wouldn't be able to make it even close to 4 days. On my phone 1hr 20min of YouTube drains about 25% of the battery. Another 6.5 hours of the phone having the screen on would probably be another 20%. So just the screen on time would be like 45% for 8 hours. The remaining 55% would get me like 72 hours of stand by. So 80 hours total under those conditions. That's a little over 3 days. Maybe with really low brightness.

I miss those days. I haven't got even close to that in like a year. The January-March updates of last year all got me noticable drops in battery life. The Pie update caused a little but of a drop too. The Pie update actually caused a HUGE drop in battery life at first but a factory reset got most of it back. Also a little more drop with normal 17 months worth of battery degradation. These days I'm down to about 6 hours screen on time 80% wifi and 65% brightness. And that's the best with Bluetooth off, no camera, no games, no GPS, no music and no video. Basically just browsing with Chrome, a little texting, email and Facebook.

My typical work day with 10 hours off the charger and 1 hour of Chrome, texting, email and Facebook used to leave me with like 88-90% when the phone was brand new. Now, very similar usage leaves me with about 75%. I went to an all day music festival back in October where I was using my phone heavily. I had to take a battery pack in my pocket with me which sucked.

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Wow. And I thought mine was mad. That's terrible.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Dude you need to stop with the battery complaining and bashing others perfectly acceptable SOT/off the charger hours. I'm happy with what I can still get after 17 months with this phone. You've been a broken record about this for longer than some people have even had the phone. Accept that you can't get the crazy hours you supposedly used to get (pretty much nobody can even replicate) or move on to another phone. [emoji1366]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] sublimaze:
Having 75% charge at the end of the day is still 85% of what you had when it was new (88-90%). This change is primarily due to battery degradation. 15% battery degradation over 17 months is not an extreme amount of degradation.

You are complaining about 6 hours SOT? That may be less than when it was new, but 6 hours SOT is still better than what most people get.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Not what I SUPPOSEDLY got. What I ACTUALLY got. I'm frustrated with Google that updates cause such a decrease in battery life. Yes, the phone is 17 months old but every decrease in battery life has come right after updates. Between the end of December 2017(right before the January 2018 update) and the beginning of March 2018 (after the March 2018 update) battery drain went up 50%. That's HUGE! At that point the phone was only 4 months old.

And by the way, the people I was responding to were showing similar numbers to what I used to get so saying no one can replicate that just isn't true.

Most of that decrease in battery life wasn't because of battery degradation. As I mentioned in my response above the drops in battery life were directly related to updates. Also, Adaptive Battery is a joke. It doesn't do anything.

Am I complaining about 6 hours screen on time? Under those usage conditions, YES. Getting 6 hours screen on time with no Bluetooth, GPS, camera, mobile data(that's a big one), music, video, games. Maybe 30 minutes of YouTube, 1 hour of locally stored music over Bluetooth and using the camera for maybe 15 minutes and being on mobile data about half the time and that 6 hours drops to less than 5. That example I gave was of a work day when I don't use my phone much. It's a best case scenario. So 6 hours screen on time at BEST. Mixed usage is about 4.75 hours screen on time. Really sucks on days when I'm not on wifi most of the day, using my phone for more than just browsing and am away from an outlet for 16 hours. Having to carry a battery back in my pocket is a pain in the ass. It's an issue that was caused primarily by software so software should be able to fix it or at least a good portion of it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
Bassgenerator usage of 4 days off the charger and 8 hour SOT is most likely with totally unrealistic usage. It was already commented that the screen would have to be literally left on with no app usage.

Eruben has had his Pixel since only May 2018 and has modded it.

You make it sound like everyone gets 8-9 hours SOT on the regular but in reality it's a rarity and not common at all. What you get is perfectly respectable. Now you're just average like the rest of us. [emoji5]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
3 days without charging my phone.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
First of all I wasn't even talking about Bassgenerator. Look back through the history of the thread. What I was getting certainly wasn't rare and didn't require modding.

And I've said many times that 9 hours was under the BEST possible usage conditions. It wasn't typical but it was POSSIBLE. It impacted more typical usage too. When battery drain goes up 50% in 3 months something is wrong. When the best possible battery life drops so does the average typical battery life.

When Pie came out Google introduced Adaptive Battery which was the biggest failure of any feature they have ever released. It literally did NOTHING. I've tried it ON for several weeks, then OFF for several weeks, then ON again. Literally ZERO noticable difference.

With a full day out away from a charger with no wifi doing a mix of things including listening to music over Bluetooth, using the camera, GPS, video and the smaller stuff like browsing, Facebook, texting, etc I can barely get 4-4.5 over maybe 12 hours. In the beginning I was able to get through a day like that no problem. Now I have to carry a damn battery pack and cable in my pocket which sucks.

The main point is there was a huge increase in battery drain regardless of usage pattern. It's extremely frustrating.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
That's battery degradation for you. I bet you get a brand new Pixel 2 XL with all the updates and you'd be fine and happy. My usage hasn't change either and I don't get my 6-7 hours SOT anymore. [emoji24][emoji2371]
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] von_block:
Adaptative battery helped me find 3 apps to quarantine because they were using excessive battery drain in the background.

Just for that, it was worth it.

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For battery degradation I only use a 5 Watts charger. The slowest I could find. I only use fast charge if I really need it.

I also charge at 80% Max on regular day.

If I know I'll need more battery for the day I charge at 100%.

After 6 months, the battery is still like day one. Just for today I'm at 5h30 minutes screen on time and there's still 48% battery left. All that after 36 hours on.

I plan on keeping the phone for 3 years so, I'm extra careful with the battery.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
5h30 and you have 48% left ?

What type of usage do you have ? Can share screenshots about your battery life stats ?

Ps ; what is your 5w charger ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] von_block:
The last 30% were draining faster.

Anyway 8 hours screen on time after 2 days and 1 night. Still 18% left, so 9 hours could probably be achieved. It got in battery saver mode at 20% left.

On a LTE only day with call, Google duo and GPS, I usually get 5-6 hours screen on time.

Today and yesterday was WiFi, chrome browsing and Reddit app with dark mode.

Can't wait for Chrome dark mode. I'm sure I'll get 10 hours screen on time.

For me the battery on this phone is really great.

I also use Blokada ads blocker. It really help to reduce battery drain
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
Okey I understand now why you can reach 9h of SOT.

But are the same time you are not using Facebook, Messenger or Snapchat.

What is your Android version ?

PS; are you French ? Because you setting are French ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] von_block:
Oui.

I don't use Facebook, messenger or Snapchat. Only have Hangout and SMS for social talk.

I'm on Android 9, stock, latest update.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
It's why you have an amazing SOT.

So what is your 5W wall-charger ?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
Not bad but I think it could be better.

I hope April patch will improve battery life
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] von_block:
I use the Amazon one with a USB type a to type c cable.

Amazon 5W USB Official OEM Charger and Power Adapter for Fire Tablets and Kindle eReaders https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01J2G4VBG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_FEKOCb0VAHTFX
[Google Pixel 2 XL Real Life Review] Le_Combattant:
Okey I didn't know that Amazon get a 5w charger. I looking more for brand like Anker or RavPower but they only focus on fast charging.

I would prefer a lower amperage than 1.5A to improve battery life over the time.