yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Avillegas:
Hassan your works is very good, elite 7.7 got better mi honor 6 and I don't think change this phone, I wait for your new release are the best. :)
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] lukss12:
Hey [MENTION=5939689]HassanMirza01[/MENTION] do u think that low volume limitation in H6X when using earphones can be bypassed somehow and get an usable volume?

Anyone can share libcutils.so for BLN-L24?
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] natsusii:
The same
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] HassanMirza01:
Yes... Its kernel tweak... I will try to get you another kernel...
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] speed3foryou:
Bricked Honor 6X L21

Hey Guys,

MY 6x was bricked after install A Update from Huawei.

Now my Problem :

I cant Flash via Dload because when i hold the three Buttons the Phone Restart and two Times Vibrate.

Then it's stuck on the Honor Logo.

Go into E recovery not possible because when i Hold Power an vol+ Button and Leave the +Button the same as before What i write.

Is my Honor Dead?

PLS HELP, and sorry for my very bad English

BEST REGARDS

Roman
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Siddk:
Check your bootloader status by boot holding volume down and plug usb
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] speed3foryou:
I have unlock bootloader and then restart the phone, But now it still stand

Your device is booting now....

Cant enter the fastboot mode:rolleyes:
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Avillegas:
Whit this you can in TWRP elite 3.1.1 and install ROM elite in your sdcard
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] speed3foryou:
Thanks for your fast answer But i cant go in the fastboot mode

---------- Post added at 07:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:32 PM ----------

Cant turn off the phone.

It's Freeze by

"your device booting now..."

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Is there another way entering fastboot??
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Avillegas:
Turn off phone, connect to pc whit USB wire, at the phone push power and vol - , in this screen bootloader unblock ejec steps with your PC and zip
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] speed3foryou:
I can not turn off the phone, bro!
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] ubohex:
Hold power button longer...

Отправлено с моего BLN-L21 через Tapatalk
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] speed3foryou:
Than the Phone restart....
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] aburayan2005:
Few days after use, I noticed that the root is lost. Flashed SuperSU through twrp twise with no success.

Any ideas !?
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Jugabrat:
Get back into stock Rom

How to get back into stock rom from elite rom in honor 6x??

No dload method is working.. failed in 5%..

Help please .
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] HassanMirza01:
hey fellas... i was thinking to do something more... i just planned to Move atleast KangVIP framework into a Magisk Module, when enabled, k-settings enabled, when disabled, pure stock Rom ;)

whats your thoughts on that ??
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] barooni10:
i think you downloaded rom for other phone or basbonde!
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] aburayan2005:
Nobody response !!!!
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] ben75011:
Hey, dont CRY !!!

Try to flash Magisk and see if it works !!!

---------- Post added at 03:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:13 PM ----------

Hi, see this post

https://xdaforums.com/honor-6x/how-to/how-to-to-stock-emui-5-0-flashing-twrp-t3679985

Working fine for me a lot !!!
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] HassanMirza01:
no body got the issue thats why,,, and dont use those fake root checker apps, use some root app like busybox or explorer to see if root working, and if it stuck, go to supersu nd give it grant by default, then check...
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] natsusii:
Good idea
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Siddk:
Did you developing module for stock rom(ex.EMUI 5.O & 5.1) or only who are on elite rom
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] HassanMirza01:
on stock man... Elite already got kangvip framework...
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Avillegas:
nowadays there is no such module in magisk, it would even be like gravitybox of xposed, good idea
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Siddk:
But no option to turn off kangvip on elite
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] natsusii:
Please release face unlock on next elite rom :(
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Jugabrat:
Awesome

It will be very helpful bro..
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Ramesh006:
is there any chance to flash kangVIP to stock rom? I have tried almost all elite versions and tried all the ways to keep permissions and icons fix but totally failed. like more than 20 times then I moved to stock and flashed elite kernal for brightness mod. if kangVIP is also flashed then stock will be awesome. fyi I tried disabling google services on kangVIP replaced lib file etc no use.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Avillegas:
In me Honor 6x, kangVIP need root permission for disable/enable Google services
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Ramesh006:
I gave them root permissions. I was asking about flashing Ksettings on stock rom.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] cmonty14:
Upgrade from 7.6

Hi,

can I simply upgrade from 7.6 to latest release?

Or should I always follow the process for clean installation?

THX
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Cynepxaoc:
yes you can, as the update works fine. In TWRP I clear almost everything except data, storage and sdcard.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Avillegas:
Hassan, are you think upgrade elite ROM to 8 Oreo?
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] hinghing1113:
Have 2 issue. GPS seem not working for me after flashing this rom, will try to test again later.

Second is getting error on a washington state traffic map "google play service are updating".

I tried untick the "disable google service", but not work.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Sreekantt:
I'm also facing the second issue with Uber. It looks like Kang VIP lacks root permissions and it thinks there is no root on the phone failing to enable the Google play services. I'm still searching for a way to force Kang VIP to ask root permission in Magisk SU.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] HassanMirza01:
Flash selinux permissive module then kangvip tools will work...
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] hinghing1113:
I just flashed and using the stock kernel, Now, GPS works.

Half of the permission is fixed, but still have some app having permission issuse and "google service is updated still persist."

I tried using the selinux changer apk, it show i am using permissive already.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] MadDog.76:
Same problem on stock rom, not a rom bug...

Replace Google Play Service with an older version, download from APKMirror! And don't update... ;)

Work fine
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Sreekantt:
Doesn't change anything. Kangvip still thinks it as a non rooted phone.

Edit - Downgrading and updating Google play service worked and everything in Uber is back.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] hinghing1113:
Just downgrade it, the "google service is udpating" seem gone.

Thank you so much

still have the permission issue. will try to put my vendor file and see.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] McRoberts:
So I had to work out of town and I just got the chance to fix my 6x and i used the tool witch gave me TWRP but the TWRP was no good I couldn't do anything with, not even flash another TWRP, so I just Fastboot and flashed the Elite TWRP and flashed the Elite ROM and all is well now. Still get the green screen and red and blue box but only for a few seconds then it boots normally. I can't thank you enough. I had all but given up on the 6x. I don't care dated phone or no it's one of the best phones ive ever had. Thanks again guys.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] hinghing1113:
I have 2 question.

Should the data file system in ext4 or F2FS?

Also about Twrp.

Why my twrp in red theme? I do usually have blue theme when i am using other device.

Any meaning on the red theme?

I do see my BL-24 show blue theme one time, then always red theme.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Siddk:
Data files in f2fs

Red theme show you are on stock rom and blue theme indicate you are on custom rom but 3.2.1 have this issue so use 3.1.1
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Zethew:
Thank youuuu

Man you're doing amazing work! Right now, I'm quite short on money (student life...), but in a few months, I'll make sure I'll give you some money for your amazing work!!!
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] inuer:
bugs

youtube blank screen when mode landscape
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] hinghing1113:
How could u keep the Google play service not updating ? It keep updated by itself
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] 0xcafebabe:
For me, this works so far:

1. Install the version you want to keep. It will be installed in

/data/app/com.google.android.gms-1

2. Create an empty folder

/data/app/com.google.android.gms-2

Somehow, this prevents updates.

I did not invent this, but found it elsewhere here.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] hinghing1113:
U meant create a empty file, right?

So there will be gsm-1(real file) and gsm-2 file(empty file) at the same time, right?

Anyway, I did create folder. Hope it stop updating
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] MadDog.76:
Disable auto-update app in Google Play... ;)

But i think bug i solved with 12.6.85 version!
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] haitham16995:
If I was on elite from 7.7 and I want to back to stack can I do that via pushing framware update to phone updater ( hwOUC) or dload ??
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] aburayan2005:
When I install new apps will not appear in app drawer till device reboot. Is this a bug? Any ideas
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] 0xcafebabe:
Yes, its a bug. It was discussed in this thread several times.

The recommended solution is to replace the file /vendor/lib64/libcutils.so with the one from your stock rom (depending on region)

For me (EU region) it was the attached version which solved the problem. Extract the .so from the .zip, reboot to TWRP and move the .so to /vendor/lib64/libcutils.so
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Avillegas:
Hi, hassan is not already in your plans to make more updates to elite rom (8 Oreo)
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] e996:
When I plug my phone into my computer it is recognized as a device with internal storage and sd card, but when I try to make any changes (transfer files to or from the phone) windows is acting like the phone is read only or something... is there anything I can try to fix this?

The phone is eliterom 7.7, in media transfer mode with no usb debugging
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Avillegas:
Hassan for Huawei's decision to remove unblock page, it's worth working with these phones, since your work in these roms are the best.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] HassanMirza01:
Actually due to some reasons, am delaying my next phone purchase... Also, huawei selected me for a View 10 so may be its coming within month or 2... If unlock page removed, its not a big thing for me... But if xloader partition gets removed, huawei phones gonna become useless for development as dev starts with BL unlock....
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Bazz27:
Which is the best mode (normal/powersave code 1/power save 1 code+ big code. Etc..)... When phone is idle
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Moonfrost:
Hi, when I try to install with dark mode (modded brightness) the phone boots to what seems the OS and I can hear the sound when trying to lock and unlock the screen, but the screen remains black, backlight and all, everything off. No matter what I do I can't seem to be able to raise the brightness so I had to re-flash with the normal brightness option and it worked.

Is there any workaround for this? I'd really like to have more control over the brightness settings.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Schokin:
How do I force K Settings to ask for root? I want to untick the disable Google services to see if that fixes the apps not showing on the launcher. I'm using Magisk.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Ramesh006:
guys currently I'm using elemental Rom everything same as like elite Rom with new Oreo features and no icons and sync issues.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Khan ubaid:
If jio volte is working then....can you confirm it...
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] ghost_89:
Hi everyone,

first of all thank you to the developers for this ROM, is very well done, i'm using it since a couple of days and it looks nice

just a couple of question (i've tryed to look for some answer but with no success):

- if i try to set the number of the left battery % near the icon it doesn't appear.. if i try to add it inside the icon it seems work, but after some hours or when i reboot the phone it disappear and i've to set it again. is there any solution??

- this one it's more important for me, since i've a huawei p9 lite and i can't install many apps because of the small internal memory. i rooted my phone mainly to move apps on the sd and save space on the internal memory. but i'm not able to do it. if i go in settings --> app --> i can't move anything.

if i use link2sd or app2sd it's the same. i got some errors and i can't move any app...is there any solution??

thank you
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Moonfrost:
Hi, I have an issue with the product and version images on my phone, after using this rom I wanted to try another one, an AOSP one, the problem is that my camera will not work in any rom now, twrp says "failed to mount product (invalid argument)" and the same error for version.

I tried installing stock and it started bootlooping, it then showed me an error saying the data partition was damaged, had to factory reset and blah blah blah, that didn't work either, since twrp cannot my product I don't have a camera in any rom and also, I can't re-flash elite rom to my phone anymore, the computer is stuck in "copying" forever and it never advances, happens only with the elite rom zip.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] haitham16995:
If you want aosp rom than try aospExtanded from hassan . it's have the Petter camera and everything is working perfectly . i am using it now . you can see camera app in drawer .

I acutely try all custom roms and the only rom that stay on my phone more than one day is aospExtanded rom from hassan . thanks hassan

https://xdaforums.com/honor-6x/development/rom-aospextended-4-6-honor-6x-t3726514
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Moonfrost:
The issue that I'm having won't be fixed by another rom though, it's a partition issue, if my product partition doesn't work well, my camera won't work on any rom pretty much. I will eventually try that rom once I get that sorted, but for now, I would like someone that can help me, how I can fix my issue with the product partition.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Khan ubaid:
Dload stock rom ...
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] jpktagala:
can anyone direct me to a guide on how to return to stock rom? thanks and appeciate your help guys
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Moonfrost:
Thanks, already fixed the issue, dload doesn't work for me, I have a flashable stock rom so I did that.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Bazz27:
Can anyone confirm if this setting works for you.... When I click , nothing happens...I want to enable *Data Roaming*.... Of the any other method for it
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] may28rv:
When you flash the ROM for the first time you have to setup the language as English (United States).
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Abbas.a2f:
Back to stock rom

Please,

I want go back to stock rom but I can't, I tried everything and still getting this error

Failed to mount '/product' (Invalid argument)

Failed to mount '/vendor' (Invalid argument)

Failed to mount '/version' (Invalid argument)

any solution please???
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] shashank1320:
Change the data partition type to ext4.

Dload the stock. It will not boot up.

It will ask for factory reset with warning as data partition is corrupt and need reset. Do it.

It may boot, if not, dload the same file again.
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Abbas.a2f:
The data partition type is ext4, but if I wipe anything getting same error

Failed to mount '/product' (Invalid argument)

Failed to mount '/vendor' (Invalid argument)

Failed to mount '/version' (Invalid argument)

and can not install any rom, Unfortunately when try dload method to install the stock rom also getting failed
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Siddk:
Try with elite twrp 3.1.1
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Abbas.a2f:
Can you provide the link please?:o
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] Siddk:
https://hassanmirza01.blogspot.com/
[Honor 6X ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Develo] johnscrub:
Does anyone have a link or upload the vendor/lib64/libcutils.so for a US version bln 24?i pulled the one from my lineage but I can't get it to work..so if someone has an original to upload...also what file manager you use to switch..
[Magisk] DEROLIVAN:
Chrome keeps saying aw snap and it says same with different browsers that I tried to install, any help?
[Magisk] Didgeridoohan:
Doesn't sound like something that has anything to do with Magisk... Unless you've used it to change any settings you shouldn't have.

But, oh well, you never know... If you want any kind of help you should provide a lot more detail and possibly also some relevant logs.
[Magisk] DEROLIVAN:
fixed it by uninstalling the emoji switcher
[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] Manuerub0ss:
Hi Guys! So, let me explain.

I'm new to this whole thing about rom porting and i really wanted to expand the library for my Moto G4 Play, because i always wanted to channge the roms and play with the phones a littlebit, but the pones i used didn't have support.

So, i like Pac Man Rom (and im sad that is outdated) and i wanted to port it to the Moto G4 Play because i didn't saw it anywhere.

In the first time, i got a build and i was euphoric to install it but when i got it on the internal memory and tried to install it, it gived me the following error:

Error 7: "System partition have unexpected OTA after update"

Please, if you can help me solve this problem and solve it that would be awesome.

Im going to upload the rom zip so you can play and tell me what's happening.

The android version is 6.0.1

Base rom: Lineage 13

Moto G4 Play (Harpia)

Test Phone: Moto G4 Play XT1607

I can't paste the link on the thread so to download it you can dm me on twitter or in xda and i will send you the link.

Sorry!

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zdanman:
Hello folks.

I've have/had a rooted Verizon Developers Edition Note 4 (KitKat 4.4) for years now but decided I needed to upgrade to 6.0 since most apps wont run on 4.4 anymore. It had TWRP and Supersu.

So, I installed the latest Android firmware (6.0 Marshmallow) on my

Verizon Developers Edition

Note 4 (SM-N910V) found here (the full name of the TAR file is "N910VVRU2CQF2_N910VVZW2CQF2_N910VVRU2CQF2_HOME.tar.md5").

I installed it with Odin 3.12.3

It installed fine but I guess it erased my root and TWRP.

So when trying to install TWRP via Odin 3.10.6 as specified in this thread it comes up with the following [IMG="Odin TWRP fail"]http://acedev.net/acedev/files/hostimg/twrpfail.png[/IMG].

I don't remember it having this problem before.... idk its been so long. I also tried this with Odin 3.12.3 and same result.

Anyway I went to try to install TWRP via this adb method and that came up with this....

[IMG="ADB TWRP fail"]http://acedev.net/acedev/files/hostimg/twrpfail2.png[/IMG]

What?! Please help!! What should I do?? Again I have the Developers Edition... Yes I made a full system TWRP backup onto my SD card before doing any of this but since I cant access TWRP idk how I would revert (not that I want to anyway - I'd like to keep Marshmallow 6.0 since apps are not longer compatible with KitKat 4.4).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxnuk:
Can you send a photo of the phone in Download mode?

(Is it written Mode Developer or Retail Normal?)

If you get a "Retail Bugs":

Download Rom Stock Original: N910VVZW2BPA1,

Put in Download mode and install on Odin;

Get Root Temp in Kingroot, and Bootloader Unlock (is a Mod-Retail-to-Develop); (link: https://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/guide-step-step-stock-n910v-6-0-1-to-t3426905)

And, Download mode, put TWRP.

(Take Stock Rom in TWRP!! Not in Odin!!)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zdanman:
Here is the download screen:

As you can see it says:

ODIN MODE (HIGH SPEED)

PRODUCT NAME: SM-N910V

CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official

SYSTEM STATUS: Official

REACTIVATION LOCK : OFF

QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE (CSB)

AP SWREV: S1, T2, A1, A2, P1

SECURE DOWNLOAD: ENABLE

UDC START

[IMG="download screen"]http://acedev.net/acedev/files/hostimg/twrpfail3.png[/IMG]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zdanman:
That is Android 5.0 Lollipop.... is lollipop like the last rootable version of note 4 or something?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxnuk:
Your Note4 is not Developer Edition...

(Remove the battery and look written on the device if it really is a developer edition.)

Do this Tuto: https://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/howto-bootloader-unlock-upgrade-to-t3398144

To Get Fake Developer Edition, and TWRP/Root,

and you get any rom stock (not in Odin, TWRP!).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zdanman:
HELP!!!! got to step 40 and now the calibration is OFF (i have to press screen an inch above the object im pressing!!!) I read about the #2663# but that doesnt work on verizon phones!!! help

and yes it says "DEVELOPER DEVICE" under the battery... it is the Developer Edition... I paid $800 flat out for it years ago.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zdanman:
Change of thread....

https://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/please-help-doing-t3678486

it says "DEVELOPER DEVICE" under the battery... it is the Developer Edition... I paid $800 flat out for it years ago.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxnuk:
XD Keep Calm, i helping you,

The full/partial firmware & bootloaders are FOR RETAIL EDITION ONLY!

Get Root in Odin: https://download.chainfire.eu/590/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-trltevzw-trltevzw-smn910v.zip

For MMB29M.N910VVRU2CQF2 Developer.

And Take TWRP/SU.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zdanman:
See other thread

https://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/please-help-doing-t3678486
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andy821:
What if I have the same problem for my verizon samasung galaxy note 4, with the same version (SM-N910V) and same everything in download mode, but I don't have a developer device...