yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Regarding this...

Ignoring the fact that there are three additional Android 8.0 ROMs currently available with at least one more planned (Pure Nexus), I've been following that thread though I am not using that ROM: I won't either because of the developer. In him all I see is a man-child throwing a hissy fit whenever things don't go exactly his way. While he can act in whatever manner he likes, there will always be consequences for his actions, and the reality here is that he has no one to blame here but himself.

If you don't want your test builds leaked, you utilize some basic security to minimize the chances of it happening. Things like hiding the link behind a username and password prompt, Or a Mega.nz link where only certain users have the decryption key. You also have some means of private communication between testers and developer, whether it be something as simple as a Telegram channel or as complex as an entire message forum. What you don't do is post your test build publicly on a site like AndroidFileHost for anyone to find, because it will be found and it will be shared.

Granted, there's no ironclad way of preventing a test build from leaking, but none of this drama regarding that ROM would have ever occurred had the developer simply utilized basic security from the start. Add to that the developer's "pick up my toys and go home" mentality and I have at least two very compelling reasons not to bother with him or his work. So off to my idiot filter he goes, and good riddance.

EDIT: This will be my only comment on the matter, so as not to pollute this thread.
[Nexus 6  General] nlua:
it happens every now and then but recently especially in particular forums/threads it happens more often than not unfortunately.

pardon me if measures already do exist, maybe the mods or the site retainer(s) would be able to create an option for devs/OPs to allow in threads permissions such as "allow comments/replies", block users, etc. and/or conditional parameters like forcing forum users to read Forum/Thread Rules & Etiquette and/or OP before allowing permission to comment. Such a step would minimize our fellow "younger" XDA members from trying to be spoon-fed and to bring them up to speed without "unwarranted" backlash (which leads to childish bickering, pissing contests -> mods reprimand -> thread closure -> end of development and opportunity). /rant *many apologies to OP for going off-topic and if this portion is out-of-place*

I've been using S.i.X Rom though ever since [MENTION=2564710]fkfmfz[/MENTION] decided to grace us with his personal rom of Nougat. i'd say the build prior to today's Oreo release has been pretty stable with a couple random reboots here and there along with some quirks that are being worked out. we are in XDA after all - bugs & issues is some times the price to admission. if you know how to deal or just simply live with them for the time being the rom is great. and i'm sure the same applies to all our devs and their projects.
[Nexus 6  General] KobySam87:
Well said mate...
[Nexus 6  General] George_Bushels:
The latest crDroid has been the most stable oreo rom ive used. I was able to install the 1.8 s.i.x. rom and had nothing but problems with it. 1.6 rebooted a lot too. It also drained my battery so fast wireless charging couldn't keep up with it.
[Nexus 6  General] KobySam87:
It will be nice if you could provide a link to the thread... I'm sure others will like to try..;)
[Nexus 6  General] George_Bushels:
If you're talking about s.i.x, it is on AFH now.
[Nexus 6  General] KobySam87:
I'm talking about crDroid...
[Nexus 6  General] George_Bushels:
https://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/development/rom-crdroid-android-t3671213
[Nexus 6  General] cpnfantstk:
I'll be trying CrDroid first when the dev lists it as stable. The dev deserves the support for his Rom. He's been quite kind and patient with the member comments and requests in his thread. He handles his own thread like a professional . Republic of Madness Dev. and Nitrogen impress me as well.
[Nexus 6  General] bfmetcalf:
I'm running Republic of Madness and am enjoying the experience. The only thing not working for me on the current build is NFC. I haven't had any reboot issues or anything like that with it and it is very smooth on my N6. I like the Devs too. That is part of what made me want to try it instead of the others.
[Nexus 6  General] KobySam87:
Great review... It will be nice if you could share the link. Someone might be interested.
[Nexus 6  General] bfmetcalf:
https://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/development/republic-madness-rom-oreo-t3676777
[Nexus 6  General] gcounts:
No, its beta 8.1. Features will come.

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Me either! I just love sying user error. You're welcome.
[Nexus 6  General] KobySam87:
OK... Will keep that in mind..
[Nexus 6  General] Guapo613:
You weren't lying about Beltz+Sigma, all I can say is WOW!!!!.

It's been 2 days and it's butter smooth.
[Nexus 6  General] eocobby721:
Y'all need to stop messing with da dude and call him names when he reacts. Sometimes da comments from some if us users are hurtful.
[Nexus 6  General] BobAzzon:
S.i.X is about as stable as it gets on our Shamu, which is eol. Everything works no issues, reboot problem has a solution, don't listen to all the rigamarole and try this for yourself, you won't be disappointed...and maybe you'll see through all the bs and realize its not about all these so called "haters" anymore...who do they same thing as everyone else... granted after Frankie does it first....happy flashing all
[Nexus 6  General] johnb380:
So anyone that's actually flashed the 8.1 beta Nephilm ROM. How is it running? I ran Aoscp 8.1 beta awhile ago and it ran ok but I couldn't use alot of apps I use everyday ... So I'm just wondering if anyone that's been on it a few hours or whatever has some info they care to share.
[Nexus 6  General] runekock:
[MENTION=8267596]BobAzzon[/MENTION], [MENTION=4592625]selw0nk[/MENTION], [MENTION=6037246]KobySam87[/MENTION] and others:

From what I understand, Frankie doesn't want us to post links to his roms. In fact not even discuss them.

Though that is a policy that I disagree with in general, Frankie is the exception where I find it a good idea to follow his wishes.

I'm sure that he'll open up a thread if he wants discussion of his new roms.
[Nexus 6  General] selw0nk:
I edited and deleted.
[Nexus 6  General] gcounts:
Huh?
[Nexus 6  General] mnsiw:
Yup :) no other ROM run this smooth and stable for me, its almost perfect but Google Assistant, hopefully it'll be fixed soon.
[Nexus 6  General] mnsiw:
Just flashed this, thanks for sharing, good ROM, for NFC I think Sigma will help, problem with Ok Google detection, no big deal, overall stable and smooth.

Edit: I think Sigma kernel not working on 8.1
[Nexus 6  General] KobySam87:
Nephilim 8.1 is super smooth... Can't wait for the nephilim settings to be activated....
[Nexus 6  General] mnsiw:
Yeah, this one is really super
[Nexus 6  General] ajaynsurana:
Would you please let me which GApps to be used? Tried using 8.0 but didn't work :(
[Nexus 6  General] KobySam87:
Use nephilim gapps... The downlink is on the same page as the ROM .... Google+

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Use this link....

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962021903579497056
[Nexus 6  General] BobAzzon:
Just to clarify I had permission from Frankie himself to post the link.... believe me I wouldn't post without permission.
[Nexus 6  General] nixie2121:
another update was posted today, most of nephilim settings are still not available yet.
[Nexus 6  General] ajaynsurana:
Thanks for your note, is it advisable to dirty flash over earlier Nephilim 8.1 build?
[Nexus 6  General] johnb380:
No do not dirty flash unless you like crashes!
[Nexus 6  General] ajaynsurana:
Sure Thanks, just saw below note on Frankie's Google page so will have clean flashed.

"i tried and got systemui fc, so i clean flashed every time"
[Nexus 6  General] nixie2121:
found the page, thanks
[Nexus 6  General] fkfmfz:
Just a fyi.. To use a updated 8.0 opengapps on 8.1, download the set you want. Open the zip and edit the install.sh file, search for sdk = 26 and change it to 27. That will read the correct version from the rom build prop
[Nexus 6  General] garywojdan81:
Frankie, nephilim beta 2 flies!
[Nexus 6  General] ajaynsurana:
Totally in agreement, it's rock solid. Not a single RR, amazing battery life and super smooth. Wish to see more options in Nephilim settings :)
[Nexus 6  General] runekock:
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that.

Of course, I strongly support sharing when that is the case. After all, Frankie is often the quickest to add new features, so his roms generate a lot of excitement.
[Nexus 6  General] Ta3miyyasandwich:
+1, but went back to S.i.X 2.5 because sigma kernel keeps my battery alive beneath 30%, brilliant ROM. Only quipe was how much 8.1 exposes the AMOLED burn in of the navbar lol
[Nexus 6  General] stivakos:
Whick gapps package should I use for Beltz ROM?
[Nexus 6  General] lazer77:
opengapps.org make sure they're arm and for Oreo.
[Nexus 6  General] stivakos:
I'm trying for half an hour and it keeps telling me "This site can’t be reached" :mad:
[Nexus 6  General] lazer77:
Working fine for me.
[Nexus 6  General] stivakos:
Fixed, it was the damn proxy blocking the site!

Thanks again...
[Nexus 6  General] nixie2121:
anyone know why MMS would just stop working all of a sudden? no sms issues...

turns out a reset to default apns fixed the issue...
[Nexus 6  General] Gysper:
I think Oreo has a problem backing up data. Recently my Hangouts app wasn't recognizing my contacts. I deleted all data and it suddenly worked.

If you flash a ROM and have a backup available, I believe Oreo stores all your info (apns, WiFi pws, etc.) Best to reset if you have problems.
[Nexus 6  General] compuw22c:
Apologies if this is off topic, but anybody know why people appear to be moving off of XDA to their own Google+ groups? I feel like I'm missing part of a story here. Not trying to criticize, I'm sure developers have their reasons, but between the move to Google+ which is harder to find ROMs on and the fact that some developers appear to want to prevent their ROMs from being mentioned here I have to assume there's some reason. No axe to grind, just legitimately curious as to the reasons. Thanks!
[Nexus 6  General] BobAzzon:
I'm not even touching that one........
[Nexus 6  General] jbaumert:
Short answer (the way I perceive it). A lot of Dev's feel XDA has too many "beginners" that bother them with what they feel is "useless" questions. Going to Google+, etc. allows them to have more control over "the group" that follows them.

Now - Back to our regularly scheduled programming.....

(Mod - feel free to delete this anytime)
[Nexus 6  General] BobAzzon:
I think some of that might be true, but I think it comes down to a lot of these new members don't research, ask questions that have already been answered, and feel they are entitled to everything, they want spoonfed, yet they don't know what TWRP is... I hope this helps with any questions someone might have.
[Nexus 6  General] EternalFlame:
[MENTION=753471]compuw22c[/MENTION]

My guess is that the majority of people on this forum are kids.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Some of the developers are as well. Wasn't the developer of Focal only 16 or 17 when the entire fiasco with Cyanogen went down?
[Nexus 6  General] compuw22c:
I don't think being a minor necessarily makes you annoying, stupid, etc. I was doing real DIY water cooling in junior high, Linux stuff in high school, and shortly thereafter I wrote a nice little script that rewrote the flash plugin on startup to show itself as a desktop browser to spoof Hulu at the time. Additionally, I know plenty of adults that act like morons. I work with a guy in his late 20's who's favorite thing to do is troll people on the internet.

That being said, I almost feel like it's the opposite. As an "old" 31 year old I feel like the scene moved somewhere else and I missed it. XDA seems like a decent place to find and collaborate on all things devices, but if people are moving away I'd at least like to know where to go going forward. The scattered nature of different ROM Google+ pages seems messy, but there may very well be a good reason for the move and I'm genuinely curious as to what it is. I'm also curious as to why developers would not even want their page linked or mentioned on XDA, is there some kind of weird "bad blood" thing I'm unaware of?

Edit: Additionally, I feel old because I don't see the appeal of Google+, but that may be because none of my friends are on it and I haven't been shown any really cool features that make it awesome.
[Nexus 6  General] garywojdan81:
It's really all of the above. And it's been going on for years. I think the issues are more obvious now that xda is the last real show around, so it's the catch-all now.
[Nexus 6  General] BobAzzon:
Hey I like to troll people too.... exactly what I was talking about...off topic again...mods?, Ash, biker?...
[Nexus 6  General] Az Biker:
Well, save the trolling for FaceBook and Twitter....

I'll admit, my ban finger was twitching a little reading all the Off-Topic (just kidding, I'm a crack-flasher, not a banner) :p

It's not a development forum, and this really belongs in the DISCUSSION section, but your conversation has been respectful and insightful, so, no harm no foul...

But now that everyone has had their say, let's get back to talking about those Oreo Roms popping up everywhere :D

Thanks.
[Nexus 6  General] garywojdan81:
Back on topic, anyone hear of androidx 8.1 from camcory?
[Nexus 6  General] ecossais:
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620771913
[Nexus 6  General] garywojdan81:
Thanks. Has anyone tried it, or have any experience with his work?
[Nexus 6  General] selw0nk:
Everything works, it's stable. His newest rom, which is 8.1, includes working Netflix and YouTube (Widevine L1), NFC, Bluetooth (with deep sleep) and the frame buffer patch to remove screen tearing on some hardware variants.
[Nexus 6  General] garywojdan81:
Sounds like exactly what I'm looking for now. I heard about it in apophis' telegram chat and got curious.

I'm currently on nephilim beta3 and it flies, but no Netflix or nfc. Beta4 got released today with a fix for Netflix but I haven't flashed it yet.
[Nexus 6  General] Markeee:
Is there a thread related to this rom somewhere to discuss issues and see when updates are released ?
[Nexus 6  General] selw0nk:
No thread. Only his github and AFH.
[Nexus 6  General] Markeee:
How did you hear about this rom if there's no discussion threads how do you know when there's updates I mean does the dude update it ?

I never ran a rom before that didn't have a home thread

I'm running AICP - 13.0 - O 8.0 shamu that rom is stable at 8.0 now with weekly updates and a place to go to to discuss issues just waiting for 8.1 to drop any days now
[Nexus 6  General] garywojdan81:
I heard about it in the republic of madness telegram chat group. Somebody brought it up as a possible source to rebase apophis' 8.1 work on because camcory had everything working. Thought I'd bring it up here. I guess for updates you could just check his GitHub for changes and keep tabs on afh for updates.
[Nexus 6  General] selw0nk:
A friend told me about it and keeps in touch with the dev. I don't I just check his afh directory for updates https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=224503&sort_by=date&sort_dir=DESC
[Nexus 6  General] mnsiw:
Can you please confirm if Google Assistant is working, I mean, hotword 'Ok Google' or 'Hey Google'.

I'm on Nephilim Beta 4, on initial setup it trains fine but afterward it shows 'Ok Google' detection grayed out.

On Nexus 5 I got 'Hey Google available now' notification, retrained it and its working fine except lock / off screen. I'm running AOSiP 20171208 Oreo build on it.
[Nexus 6  General] selw0nk:
Like most Oreo ROMs, the hotword does not work even when the screen is off.
[Nexus 6  General] mnsiw:
It's not the case with 8.0 ROMs, Google Assistant works while screen is on and unlocked, not sure about 8.1 as I tried only one ROM so far and GA not working at all, I mean hot-work isn't working.
[Nexus 6  General] EternalFlame:
beltz 8.1 out :svetius:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=74867973&postcount=19595
[Nexus 6  General] dramalicious:
Just flashed. OMG this is so smooth!!
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Just tried it, and Google Assistant does not work. You can train it, but if you try calling it up you get absolutely nothing. Installing the Google Assistant helper app from the Play Store will allow you to call up the Assistant, but you cannot use the microphone at all. You have to use the keyboard.

There are no logs to be had, because no error messages or warnings appear on Logcat Extreme when I tried summoning the assistant.

It is suitable for daily use, if you don't need or want the Assistant. I want the Assistant, so I can't use it and must restore AICP for now.
[Nexus 6  General] setiawanjimmy:
Google assistant does work for me. Pressing home button and talking to the assistant works.

OK Google doesn't work.
[Nexus 6  General] wavedashdoc:
Camcory's builds are the most stable of the Oreo roms currently. Camcory builds Androidx which is essentially stock 8.0 (now 8.1). With everything fully working, and no reboots. Beltz, as stated by the Dev is Camcory's base with some custom rom features that he himself wants.

Both these dev's are excellent and we should appreciate them releasing their work. These are there personal builds. They have chosen not to create new threads for either of their releases. Thus they are not as well known, but that is their intention.

If you want to keep track of the latest builds, just search 'shamu' on androidfilehost.
[Nexus 6  General] garywojdan81:
You just answered a question for me about both roms. Now it makes sense why neither has hotspot working since they share a base.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
[MENTION=5379942]setiawanjimmy[/MENTION]: It didn't work at all for me, and it's annoying as hell. There isn't a single AOSP-based Android 8.x ROM I've tried where the Google Assistant does work. Either it cannot record my voice or it simply ignores the keyword.

So what are the AICP guys doing that is different, besides using LineageOS? With their ROM I can't fire up the Assistant with the screen off (expected) but at least I can train it and use it.
[Nexus 6  General] setiawanjimmy:
Won't find my rom by searching on afh tho. ?

Just tested and works here. I use my shamu as a hotspot for my pc at home.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/v4yKWIfRSgafG0GN2

Not sure why it didn't work for you. As for ok google, it was gapps problem back on Nougat. It works with beans gapps but not with open. That's what i remember tho.
[Nexus 6  General] wavedashdoc:
The 'Okay Google' thing has been an issue on many 8.0+ roms. I was told that it was something turned off on Google's side for our device. When I ran early builds of SiX Rom, 1.9 I believe, it worked. Screen off detection and all. Past 1.9 it stopped working. To test this I went back to 1.9, restored my nandroid, and 'okay Google' no longer worked.

What I think you're seeing is Camcory is the stock implementation of the hotword detection that worked on 7.0+. Just like the DRM fix, it will probably take some time to find a work around. Though that's up to the devs as many don't find that function a high priority.

I know DU is looking into a fix. Hope that explains things a bit.
[Nexus 6  General] garywojdan81:
Thats on the latest update? Thanks for the fast reply
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
[MENTION=3777325]wavedashdoc[/MENTION]: It does. I know I'm ranting a bit too much about this, since the Assistant does work on AICP with the screen on. It's just that I really would rather be using an AOSP-based ROM because I don't trust the LineageOS code at all. Anyway, I have Tasker, and I know at the beginning of the year XDA found a workaround to fire up the Assistant with the screen off using it. I'll have to give that a try and see if it still works.
[Nexus 6  General] wavedashdoc:
I understand and I feel the same way about LineageSource on Shamu. I would just be careful with your wording. Again, these Dev's take their time to provide us their quality work.

If XDA is going to survive, we need to return to the harmony that Dev's and Users use to share. There is too much demand.
[Nexus 6  General] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
[MENTION=3777325]wavedashdoc[/MENTION]: The other thing about this is that I couldn't pull a log, because there was none. So I basically posted to this thread and effectively wasted the developers time as well as everyone else's time, because I couldn't do my part to help out.

About XDA, I hear you. But the balance on XDA is heavily skewed in favor of the "I want it now, so spoonfeed me the information because I'm too lazy to look myself" crowd at the expense of its developers. XDA needs to seriously look into making the forums special for its developers and its power users. Because if they don't stick around, only the spoonfeeders will be left, and the site will die.
[Nexus 6  General] KobySam87:
Has there been an update after the initial nephilim release?
[Nexus 6  General] seabro01:
Yeah, it was uploaded to AFH on 14th or 15th.
[Nexus 6  General] KobySam87:
Oh ok
[Nexus 6  General] mnsiw:
Because of this Google Assistant issue I'm still using S.i.X Nougat v5.3 as my daily driver
[Nexus 6  General] EternalFlame:
I don't use GA lads so beltz 8.1 feeds my needs.

The only thing that's kind a weird is when swiping up to unlock the device, i have to swipe all the way up to the top of the screen now, otherwise, it does not prompt for the pin but just bounces the notifications. I don't remember having to swipe so far before on 8.0

A short swipe up sometimes works, but I have to try it a few times before it recognizes it.
[Nexus 6  General] beta1204:
Hi

I'm interested in the BELTZ ROM. Do you have a link to the google+, github or other community? To follow the news of this rom?

I couldn't find anything...

Thanks !
[Nexus 6  General] dramalicious:
Same here. 8.1 build, clean flash, magisk 145

look few pages back
[Nexus 6  General] beta1204:
I only found this link : https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=74867973&postcount=19595

I'm looking for a link to follow the news of this ROM but I didn't really find anything.
[Nexus 6  General] EternalFlame:
There is no thread or anything except for that one you just posted, beltz Dev. shares his private builds for fun with us.

[MENTION=5941773]dramalicious[/MENTION]

I think it's intended by Google :/
[Nexus 6  General] beta1204:
Ok thanks gr3ud !
[Nexus 6  General] wavedashdoc:
Sigh...no one reads even a few pages back.
[Nexus 6  General] mnsiw:
It was same on Nephilim 8.1, now I'm on Nougat. What about Nova (gestures & inputs)?
[Nexus 6  General] canodroid15:
Anyone who needs hotspot working can easily fix the issue if it's not working out of the box. Build is likely missing ro.net.provision = 1. Just navigate to system/build.prop and drop this line,

net.tethering.noprovisioning=true

Save then reboot, hot spot should work after.

If it still doesn't work you could run this as ROOT in terminal emulator

settings put global tether_dun_required 0

If you don't have root or want root you can run the same command in via adb.
[Nexus 6  General] aerohp:
Has anyone been able to get the stock 8.0 open gapps to work on 8.1 builds after changing the sdk to 27 in the install.sh file? That was the suggestion a few pages back but I can't seem to get it to work. Not a deal breaker for me but just wanted to know what I was doing wrong out of curiosity.
[Nexus 6  General] aerohp:
Here's a screenshot of the change I made to the installer.sh file in the gapps archive
[Nexus 6  General] canodroid15:
That should have done the trick. IDK why it gave that error. I did the same thing to 12/07/17 opengapps mini and I've used it several times now. I also renamed the folder to 8.1 before re-zipping.
[Nexus 6  General] Guapo613:
Did you dirty flash Beltz 8.1 over 8.0 or did you/should I follow the standard procedure, wipe-flash?