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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] TechBSwift:
Bro those people who work for Samsung know little to none... You can not get your locked Snapdragon bootloader Note 8 unlocked by anyone at Best Buy, Samsung, etc. That's the purpose of locked bootloaders, is to prevent people from tampering with items. I know you where trying to help, however if you use the search option. You will see there's many threads covering this topic going back for years.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
So IF I do tho can I help? And if so how can I confirm in their faces that it's unlocked or Not?

Thanks in advance!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] SteelPicori:
it might actually be possible in the same veins as how the bootloader was unlocked for the HTC M8 and the sony experia Z tablet (off which i have experience).

if i recall each device has a specific token which was ran through Sony/HTC (Samsung) to generate an unlock key, the device is then placed into fastboot and the oem unlock command is used along with the generated unlock key, if all goes well, the phone is wiped (and in the sony and HTC case, some DRM partition is erased so make sure you back up before going any further)

Sony and HTC gives you an easy portal to show you how to obtain your device token so they can generate the unlocking key (every unlock key is unique for each device), Samsung does not. Now this does not mean that Samsung can unlock the bootloader, just means that it's not impossible
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] dkb218:
Nothing is impossible. Every lock has a key.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
And every key has a keyhole waiting to get busted open all in them sugar walls.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] dkb218:
Um, yeah... <hide the women>
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
Lol, can't wait to go back to Samsung and get that bootloader Unlocked and shove it in everyone's face, its going to be epic, I want the thread and key named after me, then I want my kid and kid's kids to carry on this legacy after I die..... my forefathers will be proud, I'm sure ppl use to hate on him the same way when he was promised the unlock key to the horse carriages, I'm really looking forward to this.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] dkb218:
Yep, stick it in all their faces! You da man! Just walk into the Samsung office and demand the key! Don't take no for an answer. Even when they call the cops <or the guys with the straight jacket> to escort you from the grounds, still insist. It's for the greater good. You can do it! You can do it!

On a side note. What city do you live in? Wanna make sure I watch the news in your town for any Samsung related hijinks... This Is gonna be epic.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
I live in NJ but NY is where the Samsung service center is, has anyone walked into that one?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] dkb218:
I live in the Bronx. Never been to the Samsung store here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
When I was there last night.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Death-Dealer:
I did the htc unlock with either the eVo 3d or the 4g LTE, I forget. But I wanted to write Samsung about setting this up. It lets them know we agree to voiding our warranty and take responsibility for the phone. Every phone manufacture should just have done this from the beginning and everyone wins.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Torquemada288:
Is that photo from the street because they kicked you out of the store?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
Dude your such a dope bully man keep it up, I can't even sleep of how bothered I am by your comments, hiiiiiii fiiiiiiuuve dueeeeeeedeeee[emoji8]?????
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] bcombel:
Man I wish you the best of luck but you will be very sad when u get a different answer when you go back. Always buy the unlocked version. Believe me I learned my lesson long ago.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
No, I ment bootloader Unlocked for rooting, but I actually thought the same thing, I wish I could have done it right on the spot, but I guess we'll see if Idk why but I'm so sure she's right, she said it with such confidence, I mean because what else could have she ment? The only other lock is SIM unlock but they dont do SIM unlock, and that is why im 100% sure[emoji4].
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] peacey8:
COME ON OP! We're going to die soon. When are you gonna get this done so we can see what happens? Do you have a timeline?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] SteelPicori:
I think the most telling part of her statement is when she says it will wipe the phone, that is a very classic behavior for a OEM unlock procedure
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] pete4k:
If Samsung engineers can not unlock their own bootloader either they're as stupid as Apple enginneers who according to Timmy couldn't unlock that iphone for FBI, or it's outright lie. The real question is who has access to that info and if she misunderstood the question. Still worth trying.

BTW if OP does it, whatever small chance it is, make sure you have tech's name, I'll be in that store in no time, it's only couple dozen blocks from my work.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] douger1957:
There's no doubt that Samsung engineers can unlock their bootloader. There are no Samsung engineers at Samsung stores. There are, however, a bunch of idiot salespeople.

Might there be a tech guy there that can unlock a bootloader? Possible but not likely.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] pete4k:
While I agree most support people just read scripts and don't know much, there have to be people who do the heavy lifting and have knowledge and access to confidential info. Every company does.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] douger1957:
Sure there is. We got root on the Note 7 because of a leak from supposedly Samsung. If I recall it still wasn't an unlocked bootloader.

What guys here don't understand is that people who are demanding root are dwindling. Out of the hundreds of thousands of phones Samsung sells, perhaps a couple thousand people are screaming for root. Their largest customers... corporations and government... are just as adamant about not having insecure devices in their network. Guess who wins?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] wase4711:
agree completely; even though I have rooted the last 10-12 phones I had, the last one I had I didnt, and I dont care about rooting this note 8; now that these phone are so fast, so loaded with features, have themes and visual tweaks you can do without rooting, almost all the reasons I wanted to root for the last several years have gone away...the only reasons now would be custom roms and kernels, and, since the amount of those have dried up as well, I dont care if I root or not at this point..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] douger1957:
When I started rooting, with the Droid Incredible, there were days I'd flash four or five custom ROMs a day. The development activity was really hopping in those days.

I've come to appreciate the stability of factory ROMs. Custom ROMs almost always have issues, some small, others are deal breakers. I'm not willing to give up Android Pay. This phone runs smoothly with no issues. There will have to be a really compelling reason to root this phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] pete4k:
Few things I want to remind everybody, since it seems we got little off topic here:

1. Unlocked bootloader does not = root, it's just a first, albeit important step.

2. Exynos has unlocked bootloader, only Qualcom doesn't. Don't ask me why, everything else seems to be matched on both models more or less.

3. Because of #2 it seems to me Samsung doesn't care much about locked bootloader. Some other m???f!!!r does.

4. Samsung has method to unlock Qualcom bootloader , it's engineering software has unlocked bootloader.

5. because of #3 and #4 maybe OP got lucky and talk to right person, we will never know without a follow up, but it is not as impossible as some suggested.

I'm not even sure if I'll root it myself, but I DO care that I can do it if I want to. And if you don't understand this concept, let me put it different way, people say I won't root because of Android pay or whatever, well, the answer is you CAN'T right now, end of story.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] me2151:
Just to correct #4... the eng bootloader is not unlocked. It is still secure which is why the s8 does not have tarp on the qcom models
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Bajanman:
Hello there stranger...:highfive:

Had to pop in and comment about your recent post. Kinda gotta agree with you here, I'm waiting for my Note 8 to be shipped. But I'm skipping root this time since I see no need for it now on the 8. Especially with this here we can do plenty to our beloved phones now.

I have a bunch of phones with root to mess with if I need a flash fix at anytime.:cyclops:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] wase4711:
WASSUP BAJAN!!

Nice to see you again..:good:

yep, you'll see that this Note 8 needs no root for most of us now...I still have some rooted phones too, and, frankly, after just a couple of days playing with this Note beast, I'm not touching any of the other phones..believe it or not, samsung actually has some pretty nice themes finally, so, between substratum and the sammy themes, almost any reason to root is gone for me..I kinda would like to use Titanium, but since there are no roms or kernals for the Snappy version, who cares about root at this point! And, I dumped touch Jizz for a full Nova setup, so this phone is really nice for me..

See you around, I hope! :cyclops::cyclops:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] smiley45:
Oh I'm so tired of hearing people saying I don't need root no more... well if you don't need it then stop posting on the thread where people want root.. I want it and need it... I don't like using 1/2 the Phone.. and I do not like paying for **** that come Autommatically with the phone but the carriers wants to charge a few extra bucks to get the same feature that are free. I don't need some rom or kernel thu I just want to unlock my phone fully and Im Pretty sure other people feel the same way as I do
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] AlexanderBlaQ:
Where you at op
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] wase4711:
this thread is titled "unlocked bootloader for note 8 TMO"..I dont see where it says not to post here unless you want ROOT..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] douger1957:
I didn't know you were a moderator.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
Right here, working right now, and for those that don't need root, BUT HOW BOUT DEM FRONT FACING SPEAKERS THO? WITH ROOT WE CAN ACTIVATE THE EAR PIECE, THATS THE ONLY REASON I WANT IT[emoji4] so I can show it off to my ex so i could win her back
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Death-Dealer:
Exactly it's bs... Just one thing alone I need root for titanium backup. I'm just gonna list that but there is at least 10 other reasons so everyone needs to stop with that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] masri1987:
what's the legalities regarding locked bootloaders?

i'm really sick of manufacturers and qualcomm screwing us over like this. If we unlock the bootloader we waive warranty andd that's already known, so why can't we have the option to voluntarily do this?

---------- Post added 29th September 2017 at 12:23 AM ---------- Previous post was 28th September 2017 at 11:37 PM ----------

tell you what guys, i have the next month off of work. I'll spend everyday harrassing samsung in all the various methods, once i get the contact info for executive relations, i'll drop it here.

Samsung does not allow us the freedom to buy the Exynos version on the US market , we have to import it, thus samsung is making a business decision to remove our administrator privileges yet wishes to collect the full amount of the device. I find this abhorrent and it was one of the reasons i've stayed away from sammy since the note 4.

We should either have the direct ability to get a bootloader unlock key from samsung for the US versions which would "waive" our warranty rights.

HTC did it and that process although somewhat not efficient, worked.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Torquemada288:
Yeah, I'm sure she left you just because you didn't have front-facing speakers on your phone. That's definitely the reason. But why settle for her? With those magical front-facing speakers, you can have any girl you want. You'll probably also become a billionaire overnight.

Step 1. Root

Step 2. Front-facing speakers

Step 3. Profit $$$$$
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
I'll be the Hugh Hef of the Hi-Def with these front facing speakers if we get root.[emoji6][emoji6][emoji6]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] TechBSwift:
I can't believe this unnecessary thread is 4 pages. There's no Samsung employee that's going to unlock your boatloader.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Death-Dealer:
This thread is epic?. So where's the OP again? ...?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] wase4711:
its really simple; Samsung wants corporate business, and, those customers want absolute security on the devices their employees use to access they intranets, so, no root, no unlocked bootloaders, and knox protection. Samsung couldnt care less about the enthusiast market when it comes to cell phones..

HTC has no corporate business, and is barely even in business anymore, so comparing those 2 is silly
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] simple23227:
I'm patiently waiting for you now, man. Please let us know if you can actually unlock your bootloader.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Torquemada288:
I'll start digging the grave then. ;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
Not promising anything for tomorrow but I'm thinking of going tomorrow....But I will call before I go because I'm coming from NJ to NY...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] RaymondPJR:
You have an amazing ability to stay positive despite criticism that's thrown at you. That, at least, is admirable. That being said, this is what they call a fool's errand.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] jayee88:
OP doesn't seem to be very tech savvy... read through some of his posts, especially in this thread and its pretty clear he's more interested in proving that he is an "enthusiast" (not just some normie "consumer" ) than providing informative information. This entire thread is pointless and the title is misleading... there is literally no basis on this claim except that some Samsung retail sales lady told him it could be done.

That being said.... I'm subscribing to this thread.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
Lol yeah working at T-Mobile you have to survive by just brushing it off, crazy customers always come in calling names, putting us down telling us we ain't worth shxt, lots of stuff but you gotta remember at the end of the day those ppl don't matter just your pockets and their services to pay the bills[emoji4]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] pete4k:
While we waiting for OP to bring us back bad news, I have 3 questions:

1. Why Exynos has unlocked bootloader and Qualcom doesn't, or rather whom do we send hate mail and it's not Samsung

2. Why people who want root so much don't buy Exynos version and if it's because you have Verizon or Sprint, thank you very much for messing it up for everybody now change to GSM carrier.

3. Why people read and post in threads they feel are totally useless and are actually helping making them so
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] jayee88:
1. Because the Qualcomm variant is made specifically for the NA market and NA carriers want locked bootloaders. This is for "security" reasons and comes with the added benefit of making it harder to remove all the bloatware that carriers are oh so proud of.

2. People may take advantage of sales and promotions allow you to get the Snapdragon variant cheaper.

People may want carrier features to work out of the box (VoLTE, Wifi Calling, Etc.)

People may want to buy a phone that supports certain LTE bands not supported in the Exynos variant.

People may have just not been well informed on the bootloader when buying. The list goes on...

3. People read the post because the title says "Unlocked bootloader for note 8 (T-mobile)" not "I think I can unlock my bootloader for note 8 (T-mobile)"

People post in the thread because OP is antagonizing them by denying proven facts with no proof of his own. And also because people love to ****post. :good:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] ticholas:
^^^^^ all accurate
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
I'm going to prove you wrong, watch! Like I said once I get this unlocked I want the key and a rom named by me
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] pete4k:
#3. In the defense of OP, he was told they can unlock it and I actually truly believe they can, but maybe don't want to or are told not too, but did anybody actually ask besides OP? Kudos for him for asking. Of course we are used to being told misinformation, BS and outright lies, but hostility towards OP is unfounded IMO, in worst case scenario he may be little naive, unless the whole story is made up. If it's true, shame on the support, not OP.

#1. I blame it on Apple, they started or popularized most of the worst trends in the industry from fully locked phones, non extended memory, exclusive carrier/ phone deals, proprietary connectors (how's that even legal, wasn't there law against it) etc, etc. Following Apple Samsung even got rid of SD cards, in S6 models, despite being one of the largest manufacturers of flash memory and thanks to Siri now we have Bixby to deal with. End of rant.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] itzsnookums:
SlickTune.....Good luck......If they do unlock your phone, then steal the dudes computer and make a run for it, post on XDA and we will get you bail money =-p

I feel you would have better luck xda stalking and try to find a Samsung engineer that way....The people at the store are more then likely just sales and service oriented......

however, there may be that one person who ACTUALLY AND TRULY SHOULD F*^&^N WORK THERE, and that person will be your bestest friend..... Fingers crossed.....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] bcombel:
Yes that's what I am talking about. The unlocked version, which is the exynos version, comes with an unlocked bootloader. It's simple, if you want to root buy the unlocked model. I see you haven't updated the thread yet so I take you didn't get the results you were thinking you would get. I still don't have my phone yet but I was willing to wait. I wish you the best of luck man.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Slicktune22:
I would have got the exynos but they didn't have the discount for the exynos versions, and I'm gonna fork over almost a $1000 when I could just get the pixel I could root from the box and cost less..and android 8.0 I called today before I took a train over there but no one answered, I'm thinking about going tommorow in person I just hope the girl is there...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] TechBSwift:
Bro, I'm going to save you some money one last time. It's not going to happen let it go... You don't find interesting that this same store never unlocked any s8, s8+, s7, s6...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] pcriz:
Umm wut.

We didn't switch to non expandable memory because of apple. Even apple users want SDcards. Google felt expandable storage was unreliable and presented certain issues under the hood but continue to support for OEMs that do want to use SDcards. How many flagships outside of Google don't support SDcards...

You say Samsung followed Apple but Google, the mother ship of Android did it first, nevermind the on board memory that year posed compatibility issues with SDcards.

OMG this is like a conspiracy theory site come on bro. If anything Google is the reason we have Bixby, but before you even get there, Samsung had S Voice before there was a Siri. Nevermind the fact it seems to be leveraged largely on being able to sell things so let's not forget Alexa.

When you try to play Apple up like the big red scare and blame them for everything you don't like you kind of lose creditbility.

Competition is good, you ever look at the first Android prototype? It was basically a palm treo, then apple released the iPhone and Google went back to the drawing board.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] pete4k:
First: don't blame site for my personal opinions. Even if this is Samsung Note 8 forum, I'm sure Apple fans come and post here as well and they're welcome.

It was out of topic rant and Apple didn't belong here at all, I hate when other people do that, so I'm sorry.

I see you're fan of Giorgio from Ancient Alliens, so maybe that explains why you see conspiracy all around you, there is none, I promise you.

Going back on topic, so where is OP with his unlocked phone, I'm running out of popcorn
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] wase4711:
Palm Treo was one of my favorite early "smart" phones..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] :
Man, this OP is wild. He reminds me of that kind of guy I served with in the Navy at one point or another. That type of dude that a lot of us were nervous to go out with when we hit port because we knew he'd be getting us into some crazy bullsheet and eventually locked up by the end of the night because he's fuking mental.

As far as that Samsung rep, yeah no. I've ran into some sales/tech support folks who came at me super confident about something and I knew, hand to god, they were absolutely wrong. You can be super confident about something you think is fact when it's actually not. That's just being wrong. Nothing special about that. Kinda reminds me of that scene in Parks and Rec when Ron visits the hardware store and a staff member tries to offer his help.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] jayee88:
Looks like OP disabled his account. :(
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] smiley45:
Well there some 1/2 good news. Just go to the Sprint note 8 thread
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
The guy was trolling. Is that what they call it these days ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] pete4k:
xx
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers] BlueFox721:
Lol
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] Itsmejayson:
Hi everybody,

I've have my Axon 7 for almost a year now. Been using it quite intensively, mostly for gaming, taking advantage of the fast charging and going through 2, sometimes 3 battery cycles per day.

For some time how, I've began noticing my phone running slower than before and that it generated more heat doing the usual tasks. I don't know if the slowness stems from the heat or the heat comes from wear and tear on the phone. Anways, I was looking for things I can do to make it run smoother.

- Will be to looking to switch to Lineage OS, perhaps I'll have a bump in smoothness. Do you think that will help?

- Can dust accumulate in the device and make heat exchange less efficient? Should I open it and shoot some compressed air at the motherboard or something?

- Does the heat come from old, overused battery? Will swapping the battery for a new OEM one help?

Thanks in advance!
[ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers] naparama:
Wipe the cache or do a factory reset