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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Sprint themselves say it will have premium quadplay earbuds. My post stands exactly as written.

You failed to understand what he meant by "standard" LG V30 vs. the LG V30+. That is all I was clarifying.

You said this.

Which if you read the article there was no question earbuds would be included in the Sprint LG V30+. When he said not everything was know about the "final unit" you took that out of context. He was referring to the "standard" LG V30 (64GB) the other carriers are selling, not Sprint's LG V30+ (128GB).

He used that word "standard" model in the article previously to differentiate between the 64GB LG V30 and the LG V30+. We would normally say "base" model here in the U.S. But I understood what he meant. He used the word at least twice in the article.

I am not commenting in any way on your understanding of English, so please don't say I am. I said you mis-read the article because really there was no confusion. He clearly said there would be earbuds with Sprint's LG V30+. You apparently mis-read the article and tried to say he didn't say that or left some doubt.

Sprint's press release, which I found after I initially posted, confirmed everything I said.

You are now trying to make it seem you were questioning B&O earbuds vs "quad play" earbuds, but you didn't specify that you just said "earbuds".

I admitted to another poster LG apparently is misleading people by making them think ALL LG V30 (not just the LG V30+) will have earbuds, and now we know that to not be true. I believed LG's press release, but I have no reason not to believe Sprint's press release about earbuds.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] nebulaoperator:
[MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] Its over , forget my post that triggered you in the first place I told you I got it all right. Do you really understand what is it all about? Go to your comment #15, you wrote B&Q is included i BoGo deal LG V30 +. There is no B&Q with BoGo deal because LG’s QuadPlay Earbuds are in the box. Does that makes a sense at all? If not i take it you clearly derailing this conversation out of ignorance.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Go to your post where you questioned "earbuds". You questioned whether earbuds would be included with Sprint's LG v30+. I am not derailing the conversation. I am merely replying to your mis-reading of the article.

I also admit I was wrong to believe LG's press release that ALL LG V30 would have earbuds in the box, B&O or "quad play" or whatever. Are we done now?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] nebulaoperator:
[MENTION=291959]chazz[/MENTION]mat I also admitted i was confusing you in my earlier post #17. No bad feelings. All good ? :)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
If the damn thing ever comes out, I plan on using my Sennheiser HD555's that I have had and enjoyed for over a decade now. Even if it comes with earbuds, mine will stay in the box. I can't stand things sitting in my ears.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Yes, we're good. :D
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ryanpm40:
Sooo Verizon doesn't have the B&O headphones? That was like my number one thing I was excited for..
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] minnemike:
Tmo doesnt include any either.

So, back on track... what's the best set to optimize v30 DAC output? Or is that just a generic question for best overall headphones for amplified output?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] JimmytheGeek:
According to AT&T's website, there aren't any buds at all. Just the charger, manual and phone.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] eventhorizon13:
What type are you looking for iem, on ear, over ear? What's you budget?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] minnemike:
Thinking something light to travel with and store easily, so likely ear buds. Hoping for something under $50 that can truly utilize the dac.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] My_Revstar:
Question On Impedance

With respect to following snippet in an article at phonearena - 'How to Turn on and make sense of the LG V30s Quad DAC":

"the "Quad" part means there are actually four DACs stuffed inside a single chip. This lets you use a pair of high-impedance headphones (>50 Ohms), as the three extra DACs kick in only when connected to such a pair. This is designed with audiophiles in mind, as high-impedance headsets are usually much more expensive than regular ones."

Does it mean that LG's Quad DAC is only useful if one uses 50+ ohm ear(head)phones?

- Will they consume a lot of power?

- Any recommendations in sub $200 category? I have the following in mind - SoundMagic E80

Thanks in advance
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I've now bought a

pair of premium high impedance earbuds to use with my LG V30,

which will be coming in December sometime (official carrier unlocked US998).

I bought the triple driver model which a reviewer said sounded practically as good as the quad driver to him. $80 retail vs $200. And I snagged them for $55 a couple of weeks ago. Now temporarily out of stock.

Read the review:

1MORE Triple Driver In-Ear Headphone review

Stunning value

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/1more-triple-driver-in-ear-headphone

two other reviews:

https://www.audiophileon.com/news/1more-triple-driver-in-ear-headphone-review

https://www.pcmag.com/review/347194/1more-triple-driver-in-ear-headphones
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] mrkoven:
i'm using 64 Audio Tia Fourte with mine, sounds pretty good
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Montechristo:
[MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION]

1More Triple are 32ohm headphones. It's not the best choice for LG Quad Dac, is it?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Tinkerer_:
B&O Play H3 headphones are only 20Hz - 16kHz. A 16kHz roll-off is pathetic, and the B&O headphones included with (some) V30 packages are not likely to be any better with respect to frequency response, even if they are somehow optimized for the V30 Quad DAC (with high impedance?). (https://www.beoplay.com/products/beoplayh3#techtalk)

Shure SE215 are only 22Hz- 17.5kHz. Also pathetic, both on the low and high end. I tried a set of in-ear Shure headphones a while back, and right back to seller they went. All Shure in-ears are pretty much like this when it comes to completely inadequate high frequency response. (I think they made their name with professional performers using Shure in-ears for noise attenuating monitors, who don't care about high fidelity as much as reliability and durability, and in fact may prefer less high frequency response to reduce the long-term degradation to their hearing.)

The 1More Triple Driver headphones have good frequency response specs, but the sound is not as clear - that is, fidelity, clarity not so good. (Compared to my old Audio-Technica ATH-CK7, which are discontinued.) I suspect the problem may be intermodulation effects between the multiple drivers.

My recent in-ear headphone trials ended up at the Beyerdynamic iDX 200 iE, about $120. BUT: The bass is too bloated using the included silicone ear tips to achieve full seal, I found that some old UE ear tips were needed to produce the magic result. But with the right ear tips, the iDX 200 are stellar. (Unfortunately, I can't find those exact c.2008 UE ear tips any more, the ones sold now by UE/Logitech are not the same. Those c2008 UE ear tips were also necessary to make the ATH-CK7 sound superb.)

Which brings me to my final comment on this: Ear tips are key to achieving best possible audio quality of all in-ear headphones designed to seal to ear canal. Insufficient seal to ear canal produces tinny sound lacking bass. Good sealing is key, but the Beyer iDX 200 ear tips issue further demonstrated that dimensional details of the resulting enclosed volume are also a factor, the Beyer tip positions the driver a lot closer to the large opening of the tip and produces too much bass when sealed in my ear. (But another person may find them just right, because of different ear canal shape or personal preference for bass.)

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$5200 (Five thousand, two hundred dollars) ?

https://music-sanctuary.com/products/tia-forte

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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] mrkoven:
i paid $3600. a bit expensive but i enjoy music a lot so its worth it personally.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] NotATreoFan:
After 3 defective pairs of B&O earbuds in a row with my V20, I'm thrilled they didn't take up any space in my T-Mobile box. After the third pair, and LG being of no help whatsoever, T-Mobile told me to order a pair of ~$100 headphones from Amazon, and they credited my account for them. I went with the 1More earbuds, and think they sound great once customized. They come with at least 10 different ear tips, both foam and rubber, for your [listening] pleasure. Unfortunately I can't tell if they're tripping High Impedance mode on the V30, since T-Mobile's version seems to lack the part of the app which confirms it. Although the volume does increase and I do get step by step volume adjustments when using them.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] mlknez:
You don't buy in ear monitors for their impedance! Tripping the high voltage output on the V30 only increases the volume! It does nothing for the sound quality. If you trip it and you have low impedance in ear monitors, you will increase the noise floor and hear hiss. Find a pair of well regarded in ear monitors that have frequency specifications above 22khz and that provide a good seal for sound isolation. If you are in a dead quiet environment and don't require sound isolation, the Audeze isine 10 and 20 are great products. If they are a bit pricey, the Monoprice M300 is a knock off of the isine products. The above mentioned 1more triple and quad drivers are good products for the price. Take a look at headfi.org for good suggestions but leave the impedance out of it.

Quad DAC is just a marketing term used to talk about the 4 pipelines inside of the Sabre ES9218P chip. This chip is a single DAC.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] RojasTKD:
Except he asked about EARphone or EARbuds, I'm assuming he want's to use them on the go out and about so this makes sense.

But yes the DT 700 is a nice set of headphones, but they are large and exactly aesthetically appealing, LOL!

From what I've read these are a great choice at the sub $100 range. They're my short list.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] mauley:
Btw, I will be getting my V30 on 1st November in the UK from Carphone Warehouse. Juts in case anyone was still wondering about EU release.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Montechristo:
I agree with you: I don't buy my headphones because of impedance. My post was an answer to [MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION]'s post. 1More Triple Driver aren't “high impedance“ earbuds.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Tinkerer_:
But higher max output power on tap means lower distortion at lower listening volume, all else being equal.

The concerns about higher noise floor (background hiss) with higher max available output power (gain) may be true with many lesser DACs, but a better DAC should be finessed to reduce that to an inaudible level. The Oppo HA-2SE is a good example. If the V30 ESS DAC/amp has background hiss at higher gain, that would be a deficiency in 2017.

I suspect the LG rationale for limiting the DAC gain with lower impedance headphones may be more due to concerns about hearing damage by excessive listening volumes.

However, some post that the DAC can be triggered to high gain mode by using a 3.5mm m-f extension with lower impedance headphones. If so, the Beyer iDX 200 fit the bill, with the included extension.

All this runaround with the V30 DAC is ridiculous. I'm thinking about just getting a (whatever) phone, a Dragonfly Red, and some Velcro.

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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
OK, my mistake. But they are highly recommended by many audiophile reviewers.

Especially at that price level. More than one reviewer says they would be competitive at $200 price, but they're less than $100.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] johnp357:
hmm... I have a pair of these.. not impressed. They definitely lack the low end of things regardless of what tips you put on them. my sony h1 were way better. course I'm far from an audiophile but I know what I like and it's not these.

for that matter, off subject but if anyone has compared the V30's quad dac to any previous version of their phones rooted with Viper4Android let me know what they like/didn't like. My 6p sounds (for sure) louder just can't tell if it's better. But then again, I'm far from an audiophile. I just managed to tweak the V4A to a level that I thought was great even if it didn't push the digital back to analog. to me it sounded pretty good and was one reason I tried to hold out for unlocked but didn't.

thanks
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] initialjie:
Hi, how much did u pay for it?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] whootowl:
Living in San Diego, California, USA, I just received my T-Mobile LG V30+. Included were earbuds of brand "LG" in a generic white box having attached a sticker labelled "CRESYN" (the OEM) and "EAB63728241" (the model number). The earbuds box included no product literature, and the included T-Mobile LG V30+ "Start Guide" makes no mention of the included earbuds. I am oblivious to the specifications of these earbuds. I have searched the Internet and have found no such product, though one other person had mentioned receiving the same earbuds with his V30+. The CRESYN company website does not have a product listing that matches the LG V30+ earbuds, and no such earbuds are found on eBay. The earbuds are similar in appearance to both the B&O and the LG HSS-F630 ("Quadbeat 3").

Today I will perform a listening test to compare the LG V30+ earbuds with Bose QuietComfort 2 (over-the-ear) headphones. For source audio, I'll be using an AIF file ripped from a audio music CD using iTunes. AIF is uncompressed LPCM (like WAV), so the audio should be exactly CD-quality. I'll then perform a test of a high-resolution compressed audio (e.g., FLAC 24-bit 96 kHz).
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] shethsa:
Whootowl - eagerly waiting for your test results. The v30+ in India has bundled LG earbuds which appear to be 'high quality' at least in looks.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] coldbeverage:
HifiMan re400
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Stever750:
Late to the party but the bundled B&O phones are inferior to their Play 3 model. They're at best OK, nothing more. Anything from say Beyer will be much better. I've git some LZ-A4 IEMs that are in a different league to the B&O. Gimmick marketing I'm afraid....
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ScottieRotten:
I don't have the v30 but using headphones for my v20. I purchased the 1 more triple drivers they sound good for low impedence.. I also purchased the Mee audio pinnacle P1 and those are 50ohm and put the dac into high impedence mode..

There are positives and negatives to each set in iem's. Both sound good but have slightly different sound. You can't go wrong with either..
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Bupreno:
Don't post answer here
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
You already posted identical question here:

Budget earbuds for DAC

We already have dedicated thread for Budget earbuds in the Accessories section. And you asked that same question there. Digging up some old thread from a 1.5 years ago (last post before yours was March 2018) to post redundant question is sort of annoying. Now people will start posting here instead of the long used dedicated thread...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] BROKEN1981:
Not sure where you get your info from, however the V20 didn't shatter. Also not fully using the ESS? Again not true. Yes a few devices did ghost. Those of us who had root used a kernel that fixed that.

Please explain this since since there is no issue.

Your opinion, no matter how misguided it is.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
You have to remember this was a very old thread dug up just couple days ago. (I complained about that in my post prior to yours.)

Early 2018 LOS ROMs (the post you quoted) indeed could not access the Quad DAC. That issue has long been fixed -- which is why I hate when people resurrect old threads. ;)

They are full of outdated, incorrect information. THERE'S OFTEN GOOD REASON THEY DIED OUT! ;) I often have to go through and edit a bunch of my old posts so people don't use old information.

Even several months after we got universal root on the V30, people were digging up year old "No root yet" threads and lamenting the situation. Like, they don't see all the custom ROMs? They don't see the WTF and LAF Exploit threads? They dig up year old thread buried 5 pages deep?

In this specific case, we already have dedicated CURRENT Budget Earbuds thread in the Accessories section. The person also asked there, but regrettably posted in this obsolete thread first, bringing it back to the surface...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] BROKEN1981:
Ouch... Just checked and I see that post was from 2018.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Ashtrix:
Hey man at that time I was wondering if I get the V30 or not, also I used to run Custom ROMs since Eclair and Froyo. I ran the SGS on stock modified ROM, Darkys and ZF2 on Stock but always used to shuffle in between them. That was the reason I was wondering the Custom ROM - DAC part. And the MQA part was not on MQA HW decoding which V30 natively has and also how that DRMed format is vs a FLAC but the audio prowess on the LG's ESS and Marketing. Plus Axon LOS enables to utilize it, albeit not like how Stock can run but a patch kinda since all LOS ROMs had a patch to override, been a long time I do not have the specific link.

I bought it last year and I ran LG ROM only since then I posted all my reviews and my impressions, I post very less nowadays due to work and all when compared with the days of Nexus, CM13. And this phone / ROM / community has been the best experience so far. I love the Gnexus esp, Always wanted to get a Nexus one, I got hands on that beautiful machine. Except ASUS I liked all phones, community was excellent on all of them, SGS still has some people and that phone is still alive and also the DAC on LG is leagues ahead and it's one of the rare gems on the planet from Audio to UX to Camera UX, Design etc.

I agree with Chazz, that's a very old post. However the IEM recommendations remain true, hope that helps.

Also the LG Audio part on the HIM and etc, hit this piece (If one alr read it then cool) This is the best phone for me. Period :cowboy:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] TPMJB:
KZ makes amazing earbuds for cheap. I've got about 7 different pairs off of Gearbest. Even their 7$ one sounds fine, but their $50 ones are phenomenal.

I'm using the A12
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] BROKEN1981:
Yeah the Galaxy Nexus was pretty awesome.

I'm interested in the Asus rog phone but due to no wireless charging and dedicated DAC, I'm passing on it. The ESS DAC is a must have feature for me. Anything else I can pass on.

As far as pointing out HIM, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that. I understand what HIM means, just not entirely sure what you're trying to convey about it. I'm ready to pass out tonight. Very stressful day. So I'm very sure I'm not reading correctly. LoL

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I got the CCA C10 and ZS 10 PRO.

Was going to grab the CCA C12, decided against it. The C10 is my daily driver and just don't see using anything else.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zdanman:
Ok... So i FINALLY got my Verizon Note 4 upgraded to Android 6.0 (Running ModestRom.v9) and it is rooted and I have TWRP....

So since advanced Android documentation and procedures are all horribly biased and completely different everywhere you turn I will ask it here...

The TWRP backup I can attest does NOT work at all.... I backed up my KitKat 4.4 rooted installation and then after trying to downgrade back to it by restoring it - I got the boot screen loop and was never able to even start it again until I upgraded back up to Android 5.1

So is there a way to backup EVERYTHING (like take a complete image of the phones boot internal SSD etc....) so that NO MATTER WHAT STATE THE PHONE IS IN and what bootloader and OS is loaded I will always be able to revert back to my backup? Or is this just a fantasy? :confused:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] homephysician:
Twrp is the only way I know of to make a backup of your phone and it's setup. I have backups of RR, Modest and n seven port. Not sure what you did wrong. Just make sure you backup to external SD card.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zdanman:
No.... TWRP definitely does not back up everything completely...

I attached a picture of the contents of the TWRP backup that I had TWRP restore from my sd card. I had TWRP complete the restore then wiped the cache and rebooted... It was stuck in a boot loop... i pulled the sd card... still stuck in a boot loop. I then wiped the datliv cache.. still stuck in boot loop.

TWRP backups are garbage and obviously DO NOT backup everything needed for a complete restore... Even on my PC i am able to boot in recovery and create a complete image of the boot sector and all. I can then restore that exact bit by bit image of my ssd and the computer will be EXACTLY as it was when i made the backup...

There needs to be a solution.

[IMG="TWRP incomplete backup"]http://acedev.net/files/hostimg/twrpbk3.png[/IMG]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trebuchette:
They've been working for me. ?? I've used it a few times now, heh — I am not used to Samsung bloatwear, and have def. "over-debloated" a few times.

If it helps, just as safeguard I still have ROM Manager (lol —if I put money into something, including TiBu, it's on my phone. Well, except that stupid Go Launcher (PRIME!) malware... ugh. I had a pretty flagship Moto once that was otherwise JUICED, but I had NEVER seen such a bad launcher! I would have used EMACS as my launcher I was so desperate (and yes you can!), but instead went to the Market aka "play store" (still hate it) and paid for first thing that had high stars. I was younger and stupid.) My twrp though doesn't have a launch drawer app at all; just boot into recovery. Not sure if I over debloated that or if I have to download something from the Market. (I hate the Market so much I use aptoide as default "app fetcher". MUCH more trustworthy, and they have apps Goolag doesn't let in.)

If it helps, I can report that ROM Manager still works? It recognizes my TWRPs and makes its own backups (full system) just like it's still 2011, and it knows TWRP is my recovery. And clockwork looks exactly the way you may remember, too. They haven't refreshed their UI at all. —And I don't mind that ONE bit. I mind TiBu's stupid UI because it is stupid, but ROM Manager just doesn't NEED much more of a UI imo. Open, backup or restore, reboot, profit).

BUT to use TWRP on the note, I have to boot into recovery. The last twrps I've had (on my last HTC Ones) have had an app drawer app, but I don't. Still, I've been backing up/restoring just fine from recovery. And I've just got a stock-ish xposed 6.0.1 Verizon (NO, wait: I just flashed Paul Pizz ROM, duh —btw that rom's quite lovely. SNAPPY!)

Can you boot into recovery and backup from there? I'd give that a few goes, save to phone, open on laptop, compare.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mojoswagger1980:
Lol nothing can back up a partition that is in use when you attempt backup. Have to do a nandroid backup not a recovery. Btw my recovery completely installs working os from clean wipe.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zdanman:
i have a question? where is the android device ID stored?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] melmarPH:
I just got my Mi A1 yesterday from a reseller here in the Philippines. I had my bootloader unlock so I am thinking about rooting or installing twrp for my device? Any inputs will be appreciated.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] ravinder0003:
I tried latest magisk but it is not working...
[Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers] melmarPH:
Shall we ask magisk devs to look into it?