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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] graywolfman:
I've had the problem with my unlocked Note 8 on Verizon. I can only get GIFs to work receiving (sending was always fine) by loading either Verizon's terrible Messages+ app, or using Textra and setting the MSS > MSS Behavior to Legacy, then rebooting. Called Samsung, they said it's a Verizon issue; called Verizon, they said they don't have any information on the Note 8's messaging to help with a fix. I call shenanigans, since Verizon needs to test a device before they allow it out into the wild on their network, but maybe that's just me being crazy.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] de2000:
So I observed something today on this issue. When I used the default app to send a live message, it compresses the crap out of it, and also reduced the background pixel dimension (original is 600X600, the sent version was 300X300). I also found that AT&T allows up to 1MB of MMS per send. So I checked the original file, and the size is about 5.7MB. I checked the one that was sent out by the default app, and it is at 326KB. That is a damn big difference!

From this, I am thinking that Textra's compression capability might not be as fast or good as the default app for this to work.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] PsiPhiDan:
As a loyal Textra enthusiast, I would love answers too. Maybe Textra needs work on their end? Let's contact the developer.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bonerp:
Textra does not compress the live message like it can with other MMS pics. The standard app as stated above does compress heavily.

EE in the UK has a limit of either 100kb or 300kb (my MMS messages only send to 100kb!) therefore textra must do some compression but clearly it can't to the live messages.

So my take on this is Textra won't currently work unless they put in a fix to allow Live messages.

I've now switched to the samsung messaging app for the time being.

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yup thats my take on the issue - its a textra problem
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] de2000:
Hi Guys, I filed an issue with Textra. A member of their team contacted me and said that they will look into this next week.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Oyeve:
I went into settings, MMS, and changed the file to carrier has no limit. Live messages send fine. On TMO.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Beianrui:
When you say that you changed the file to Carrier, what setting are you talking about? I dont have a setting in MMS called file.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Oyeve:
I meant "file size".
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Beianrui:
Gotcha!

I have tried playing with the file size on mine and even tried playing with the System and Legacy options along with the APN settings and it will just not send. Works just fine with the default messaging application but not with Textra.

I hate it too, I would so much rather use Textra.

Just wondering what phone company is everyone using that is having issues? Mine is AT&T
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] de2000:
Mine is AT&T.

Their help website says that the MMS limit is 1MB, so that is where I have set mine.

I have managed to send one live message through Textra, but it was a super simple thing. Size must have been really small. Anyway, the app team will look at this next week.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] nicholb:
Google's Messages app won't send Live Messages either. Am on T-Mobile.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krazieboy:
Any updates from the devs?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xxx42069:
This worked perfectly for me, problem solved. Thanks man.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] djlee0314:
For those on TMO and using Textra, I've changed my MMS setting to no limit as well as to Legacy but Live Messages still not working. If I send Live Messages through Textra it appears to send but recipients still aren't receiving. I've tested with a few co-workers. So those of you on TMO that says it's working have you confirmed that they are actually being "received"?

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I also forgot to mentioned that I've changed the Live Message to "standard" as well
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] borijess:
I can send MMS messages on AT&T. Is there any fix?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] djlee0314:
One more thing, sorry lol. I certainly think it is a carrier issue to receive Live Messages. Just tested with a co-worker who is also on TMO and he had no problem receiving my Live Message in both standard and high quality formats via Textra.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] wase4711:
this worked for me as well, on TMO..thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] marctronixx:
It works on T-Mobile. Its the other carriers.

I have sent successful live texts to other users on T-Mobile, so the app WORKS on T-Mobile.

The issue is that other carriers, att for example, dont yet support it.

So its not textras fault.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] de2000:
Well, I have not gotten a reply from the developers. Hopefully, they can do something.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] M2Iceman:
It's the compressions. Its that Textra won't compress like stock Sammy messenger program does. On Sprint it won't allow files bigger than 2mb. So it's kinda both the program and network. Networks aren't keeping up with the file sizes that newer cameras are taking. Sure u can take smaller pics but why should we. Hopefully both Textra and networks figure it out. Textra will compress a huge pic file to under 1mb but won't compress a Live pic, weird.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] marctronixx:
no its kinda NOT the app if a carrier (tmobile) already allows the larger live messages to go through with no problem. t mobile is being progressive whilst the old dinosaur carriers are dragging their feet.

call and complain to your carrier that you want them to implement provisions to allow larger MMS messages.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] de2000:
It's probably a combination as one poster has mentioned.

I got a response from the developer. He said that the development team knows what is the issue now, and it basically affects all 3rd party texting apps. He said that the changes to make this work is extensive, and it will take at least two weeks to implement it.

This is the latest.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] marctronixx:
I other words, they are perhaps adding extra code to allow users on networks that dont allow large MMS messages to send them in a compressed state.

Its NOT the app if there is at least one carrier that allows those messages to go through. :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jay_jay_n:
Glad they are working on the solution, seriously really annoying going back and fourth just for live messaging . Textra is worth the hassle
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] de2000:
The latest update has fixed this issue, and it added Unicode 10 emoji's! I have been in communication with the developer on the fix, and since the last fix, he told me that the Live Messaging would be fixed in this latest update.

It's working!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] latestdev17:
Yep, the latest version 3.42 fixes the live message issue. Works great on AT&T.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] JeffDC:
Not working on my N8, AT&T trying unlimited, standard or legacy... ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] borijess:
Mine works with these settings.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] JeffDC:
borijess, yes thank you. I had to change mine to legacy and reboot a few times.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] jason504:
If you turn in a working phone to ATT with a value of 20$ you get 300$ of store credit. I know there is a time limit so y'all better hurry.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] rcklss1:
i can confirm i traded in my verizon moto z play droid for the credit on launch day
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Khwoo685:
Phone has to have a trade in value of at least $20 though
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] reinbeau:
I was told I'd get a $200 account credit by the tech at the AT&T store for my Note 4. I have no need for any store credit, I have everything I want already, I had my case and screen protector preordered, and already have the S2 watch. They told me I had to take the $300 credit and I made a fuss - ended up with the $200 account credit and $100 store credit. I spent it on a little bluetooth speaker, the Wonderboom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] montyf:
I got 300.00 for my note 4. Applied it to bill credits.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] frome901:
Anyone do the trade-in online and the ship the old phone back?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] ShrekOpher:
Yep sent in a S5 for my Note 8 trade in.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] frome901:
Did you have to have a promo code?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] ShrekOpher:
It's done by email address not promo code so it's tied to my Samsung account
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] cordell12:
This promo at ATT ends on 9/30/2017

Device needs to be worth $20 by ATT standards. Most $60 Boost Pre Paid devices fall short of this.

Check values here

https://tradein.att.com/#/start-a-trade/discover-device-value
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] cordell12:
bought 2 of these, traded them for $600 last night

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Motorola-E4-Prepaid/953073971
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] frome901:
did you go through the att trade in website or just send the old phone back in the box the new phone cam in?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] cordell12:
I went into the store. They applied the credit right then, got a new VR, some LG wireless headphones and $430 in bill credits.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] convergent:
I did mine in the store too. I would have preferred it as a credit against my bill, but they wouldn't do that. They applied part of it to tax on the phone, and then got a Gear S3 Frontier for $49, Beats X earbuds, and the leather wireless charger... both of which were also discounted from their normal crazy prices. Net was about $25 more I had to kick in. My trade in was a mint condition Galaxy S5. I am so glad I got the Gear S3, because I was coming from iPhone w/AW, and I love the Gear S3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Sabreslight:
I guess I got lucky, I just my 8 on friday. Traded my note 4 and got everything out the door for $75. Maybe since I was switching from sprint it made some difference.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] cordell12:
If they extended the promotion, why not buy one of them $40 phones to trade and keep your Note 4 for a backup device?

Was it a true ATT store? I can see a Authorized Dealer doing this, but not a ATT owned store.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Sabreslight:
My 4 was falling apart that's what drove me to upgrade it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] }{yBr!D^:
Still active, turned in my iPhone 6+ last Friday and got $300 credit at an AT&T Store. Made out like a bandit... put $200 on the phone as a down payment and the rest was on accessories. (2 USB-C Cables 6FT, one wall jack and a case), Unfortunately, AT&T didn't have a 256GB MicroSD card at the moment so, I bought one on eBay lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Fourknucks:
I turned in a perfectly working s5 and they send me a gift card for $6. Never again crooks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] ShrekOpher:
WTF, I turned in an S5 and got $450

You got ripped off for sure.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] frome901:
They gave me 16 buck for a Note 3 just enough so they didnt have to pay the extra.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] crypt0kiddie:
ATT still running any promo's? I'm still using my Nexus 6 on ATT, thinking about going to the Note 8. Wanted a Pixel 2 XL but I can't afford to drop the coin on it in one shot and I didn't pass Google Credit check to do payments so I gotta get something from AT&T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] ClaudioVernight:
At&t gave me $300 for trading in a Lumia 640!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] Freakyd9984@gmail.com:
Also gave me a 300 credit for anything in store but can't use it on the bill... traded in iPhone 5
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] ClaudioVernight:
That's no good. I was able to apply it directly to my finance amount, bringing the monthly payment down $12.50 (300 ÷24 ).

I also got the buy one get one free Note 8 by adding a new line (cancelled one of my existing lines, then immediately added it back!)

And, on top of that, they gave me another $300 for trading in an old iPhone 5 towards the Note 8 (the free one). I used that second $300 as an immediate credit on my account

Essentially, I was able to get two Note 8s for $ 349 out of pocket.

Try to get that discount with an iPhone X!

Anyway, I am very impressed with this device so far.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] emanmdd:
I essentially did the same thing. I've been thinking about switching to AT&T for a long time because I got sick of Verizon's bs. My best friend since elementary school works there. He got me on their plan and was able to get me an additional 50% off my bill.

We also got cases and pop sockets half price too. The service is better too. I should've made the switch a long time ago but I live out in the country so I was afraid I wouldn't get much coverage. Well, the deal that was going on was too good to pass up.

2 Note 8 and half off the bill with cases. Not bad. I don't even look at Apple products when I go into a cell phone store.

I traded in an old, old Android and an iPhone 5 that I bought for 10 bucks from my niece right before I went to the store. I was going to trade in my Pixel and S7 edge (both cracked) but my friend said that we could find alternative phones that were less valuable and we did. I was able to keep both phones. :) My friend told what to tell the associate to get the best deal and the cheaper method because there is a ton of ways to apply the credits and he went through them. He showed me the best one. I forget what it was :confused: But I know that it wasn't exactly like the one above, there was a few key changes. One being that I didn't apply any credit towards the free phone. I put the full 600 towards the 1st phone and not the free one. He said you lose money the other way. I don't remember what he said to do with the other credit. I know that we did the 24 month plan.

But he did say that some associates try not to let you put it towards the phones or your account. :eek: Instead they persuade you to spend it in the store. It makes sense that associates would tell you you can't.

Edit: Also, I went in with the intention of paying off the phones after the credits were applied. However, after I was shown the math of every single option, I was persuaded against that. You lose money in the long run. Plus, I'm going to stay with them anyways so it doesn't matter to me anyways.

This is not from your run of the mill employee. This guy knows the ins and outs of the industry. He used to be a developer. Just trying to share my experience. Go with whatever option you feel is right but this is definitely a deal you don't want to pass up if you're thinking about upgrading.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] ClaudioVernight:
Nice deal for you!

I don't need the second phone, so I put it on Craiglist, but no one is interested/serious even at a huge discount ($600). I guess I'll just keep it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories] crypt0kiddie:
Any of these deals going on now? AT&T says they have nothing. :(
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clamor:
May someone donate his tablet to bring Unlegasy Project to TF300T. Thanks.

Needed a dev with TF300 for Unlegacy Andoid Rom developement. :fingers-crossed:
[Sony Xperia XA1 Questions & Answers] simply F:
Please Delete
[Sony Xperia XA1 Questions & Answers] simply F:
Deleted.
[Sony Xperia XA1 Questions & Answers] ItzTyrone:
How did you do it with app cloner?
[Nokia 6 Questions & Answers] AaronAtilla:
I normally keep cell data turned off. When not in WiFi range I turn off wifi, turn cell data on and then wait, sometime for ten or 20 minutes.

Or I can reboot which also wastes time.

Am I missing some setting? Why does this happen?

Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Hpjunior:
I'm sorry if this a repost or not, but i'm currently following the Upgrade procedure for windows mobile 6, and it required me to downgrade to the button rom. Everything went smooth, but i wonder. The guy in the tourital says that my IPL and SPL is one on 1.xx and another on 2.xx, as mine is both at 1.xx. i have the T-mobile MDA version, and I'm following the G3 tourital. Currently now it's just sitting there, should i continue without worry or do i need to do it over again to get one at 1.xx/2.xx. Thanks for the support

Harlan.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Deleted member 804010:
No - if both your ipl/spl is at 1.xx - then you are good to go, continue on to the next step.

It appears that some users (such as myself ) have to run the buttom rom twice to get both ipl/spl to be the same.

My first pass with the button rom gave me ipl of 1.xx -and spl of 2.xx

Ran the button rom a second time - and all was good

Good luck
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] starkwong:
Remember to CID unlock, then Upgrade IPL/SPL before upgrading to WM6.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] zabardast_1:
Read the guide carefully,it says, the while downgrading with Button's Rom you might probably get ipl 1.xx and spl 2.xx,reflash the button's rom a few times more till you get both ipl/spl 1.xx.Its required to have both ipl/spl 1.xx to apply lokiwiz02b to SIM/CID unlock the phone,so as you already got ipl/spl 1.xx,you are lucky and good to go to run lokiwiz02b and unlock,remember only after unlocking the phone,upgrade to ipl/spl 2.xx by flashing T-mobile 2.26,ok

cheers !
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Hpjunior:
Thanks

Thanks you Guys, it Successfully installed with breeze. Now that i upgraded the rom by installing the 2.26 before WM6, I'm getting 200% better reception, like it would take an hour or more Just to get reception ANYWHERE!!!!, I'm not kidding. Now that i finished up and installed the black diamond WM6, as soon i hit the today screen, I'm already connected to t-mobile. Thank you everybody for telling me that I'm safe on continuing the installer with both 1.xx ipl/spl, because now i have better reception, touch, unlocked, MDA. Thanks xda-developers for the great information.

Harlan.:)
[Huawei Watch 2] vigneshnm:
Hi,

I know there are a couple of WhatsApp threads but my query is different.

As I understand, there is no WhatsApp app for Android Wear 2.0 but notifications are sent to the watch. In that case, is it necessary that the watch and phone are connected via Bluetooth?

If not i.e. WhatsApp can work via an independent connection, I have another query.

In India, eSim isn't permitted and I'm sure I can't get two sim cards with the same number. In that case, I'll require a sim card with a separate connection. My WhatsApp would be linked to my primary number which is in the phone.

In this case, if I'm away from the phone (say on a run that I never seem to get up on time to go) and LTE is on, will I still get notifications via this connection?

Thanks
[Huawei Watch 2] glenner05:
In short...yes! The simcard you insert in the watch enables a 3g/4g connection on the watch. Doesnt matter which phone number the watch has. When no longer connected through bluetooth with a phone the 3g/4g connection replaces the bluetooth connection. So every notification received on the phone is send to the watch using its 3g/4g dataconnection, including whatsapp. You can even reply to them, even start a new conversation using Google assistant.

Ofcourse this can only work of your phone is connected to the internet, because it needs to send all notifications to the watch through the internet.
[Huawei Watch 2] vigneshnm:
Ah so that means this works similar to WhatsApp Web. The web browser or the watch in this case is just a thin client with a display while all the heavy lifting is being done by the phone.

Is this true for other messaging platforms that have apps such as Telegram, Skype and FB messenger or can they work even if the phone is switched off/ doesn't have network?

Thanks
[Huawei Watch 2] vigneshnm:
Since it only shows notifications, I presume I cannot open any chat on the phone and see the chat history? Or that if I swipe away a notification, I can't read it or reply it to it save using "ok Google" to send a message.
[Huawei Watch 2] glenner05:
Correct...

And If phone offline you can only call and use sms on the watch since it has its own sms app
[Huawei Watch 2] vigneshnm:
Thanks for your replies, really helps me understand this watch better.

If there are multiple messages, either from one contact or from more than one, does it show all messages with an option to reply to them individually or does it show only the first/ last message like Gear S3 does?

I know I have a lot of questions, plonking down $400 on a luxury item is a huge decision to take!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qqq1:
I noticed the ambient display now only shows the time, not the day/date. Is there any settings hidden somewhere that will let me put the date back on it? That's what I need to see most often, not the time. You would think I could remember the date since I have to write it many times but I never do. Thanks.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frnt:
+1

wan't the date too
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coremania:
On stock or superxe I guess not, on nitro Oreo I got both
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discuss] jason504:
Can't wait for Root. Pretty sure I am not the only one willing to chip in a little to help get it going on ATT.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discuss] Waynehead69:
Yes, we NEED root, but we also have to get some money together for a dev. Take this post to the top! I have $50, anyone willing to match or add to?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discuss] norbarb:
You are very positive but how long is At&t note 5 out and no root. Note's are use by government and doughy there will be root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discuss] jason504:
I did not know that damn that sucks. Why just not ATT? Other Note 5s had root. But every phone I have had in the last 5 or 6 years has gotten root. My galaxy S2 on boost mobile I had root. My LG G pro on Att with locked bootloader got root. Same with my LG V20. They said oh no the bootloader is locked it will not get root.. It got root. When a phone first comes out everyone starts freaking out about root and someway somehow it gets root. Now you did throw a wrench in the machine about the Note 5 on Att. Hope I am right and we do get it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discuss] norbarb:
I hope I'm wrong and we get root on Note 8 like on S8 and S7 versions.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discuss] ShrekOpher:
The real problem is that root is not full root. It's always based off the engineering kernel/firmware now (for both the S7 and the S8) and it severely limits the performance of the device.

The S8 can only charge to %80 once it's rooted, it also breaks Netflix, and most of the Samsung apps. Also the bootloader is still locked down tight so there is no way to flash AOSP.

It's really not worth it. There are ways to get almost everything without root now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discuss] cordell12:
yup, I can deal with no AOSP but not the 80% limitation of battery and breaking of apps.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discuss] _MetalHead_:
Agreed. Practically everything I used to root my phones for can be done now without root. Theming, ad blocking, disabling bloatware, etc... It's great.