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[Touch Cruise General] maati:
I am comparing to 3Mpx Sony Ericsson phones like the K800i which are the best camera-phones on the market.

My XDA Orbit 2 takes photos that are competitive to those taken with SE phones as long as they're not done in dark environment (because SE phones have flashlight).

So, if you really did the optimizations and if your photos are really that bad you probably got a defective device.

EDIT: OK, now i looked at your sample shots and now I understand what you're talking about. Yes, the moiré is there and it is there on every Polaris device. But: IMHO the Polaris photos are still way better than the Motorola ones, because they include much more detail, which is in every case more important than not seeing this moiré/grainy effect. Why? Because you can get rid of these effects with photoshop (or probably some free programs, too) easily but you cannot get the details the Motorola photos are missing with any program.

As I always edit the important photos afterwards with PS, I didn't think that you would have problems with these effects (I also noticed them of cousre, but they are no problem for me, at least less of a problem than bad light/color/details).

Like gnick666 said before, try reducing sharpness if you don't want to optimize the photos on your PC.
[Touch Cruise General] xdamiki:
May be your htc is defective.

My Cruise make photos really better ( almost my old phone nokia N73 with 3mpx and Karl Zeiss lens).

Sorry for you.
[Touch Cruise General] saisallo:
have seen them on pc???

well : all you that are saying to get these good shots, please let me see these shots and post them please to compare them
[Touch Cruise General] saisallo:
this device is not an all in **** one this cost 600 euros !! so i don't expect a canon digital ixus quality but at last some better or equal than a much older phone like the v3x ..... also i've seen shots from other users but not as this bad .... i'd like to see your shots (without editing please....):rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
Yes, i know it costs 600 EUR, I bought it for 620... But still, it's an 'all-in-one' device, like it or not.

I had hell of a time polishing the pics taken with my V3x, but - as mentioned before - the Polaris, takes pictures whith more detail.

Heres mine.

original: http://blacksun.extra.hu/myfiles/image_060.jpg

edited: http://blacksun.extra.hu/myfiles/image_060_edited.jpg

The first one was taken, whith default settings. Check the EXIF data, for proof of date/source, also img includes clock.

The editing has been done whith Irfan View, Blur Filter 3 times.

I'm not an expert, infact I'm a n00b on this, but 1 thing's for sure, not always the most sensitive setting is the best.
[Touch Cruise General] qtek_metanol:
Hi Saisallo, you just expend your time discussing here with some HTC extreme freaks about this theme, for some weeks ago when i got my Orbit 2 (HTC Cruise) i wrote i post complaining about the bad quality of the phone, not only the camera but also the sound and some others things and the people just say that they don't have any problem, that they were satisfied with theirs devices and more. Sometimes I think that they didn't have a good product in their hands before. After all the HTC Cruise costs about 530 €, almost the price for a standard notebook.

My last complain about this phone.....!!!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=365676

I just recommend the people to don't buy this phone. Orbit 2 / HTC Cruise are the last crap from HTC
[Touch Cruise General] ouioui01:
+1

My old Artemis is much better....:D

Guys, don't make the same error as me and some others!!!!!!

Cheers,

ouioui01
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
We're not freaks :rolleyes:

We just have other methods and oppinions about things. Yeah, we're f*cked because of the driver problem, but that doesn't change the fact that 95% of failiures are caused by the user or in much less percentage software error not caused my the user but the programmer, be it PC, or PDA.

Maybe in 2-3 years these 'all-in-one' devices will compete whith dedicated ones, but that's still in the future, and not now. Learn to compromise, i.e.: post editing photos, optimizng mp3/videos, and so on.

If you can't reproduce the proven quality in some functions, that's your own personal probelm: 1. you expect too much from current technology, 2. you don't know how to do it.

Peoples oppinios differ, just because of that calling others freaks is a bit too arrogant. This forum is for exchanging these oppinions, in cultured, non-offending way.
[Touch Cruise General] saisallo:
i've seen your photos and are crappish like mine perhaps they don't have moire effects .... but definitively mediocre quality i must say and so also mine is not defective now i know.

also i'm getting conviced my money was wasted and that i had to w8 more time before buy it ..... and see how much complain there are around ...

now i know that i must w8 for un upgrade of the firmware or software ... but seems that htc support is only for their bank account ........ :eek:

will follow the forum but i feel stolen by htc.

bye
[Touch Cruise General] JNGold:
Windows Mobile device have traditionally had mediocre camera at best. If you wanted a dynamic camera on a mobile device, you should consider a Nokia N95.
[Touch Cruise General] SvanteH:
My first post here, so proud ;) When I was shopping for groceries (eerie isn't it?) I decided to take a photo. I didn't stand still for long, just a normal photo. Turned out to be quite nice. This is a 2M photo, not 3M.

Image
[Touch Cruise General] saisallo:
yes n95 is much better for photo but you must pay for navigate ..........

accc.... :D
[Touch Cruise General] qtek_metanol:
I don't mean that in negative way, I just mean that I gave my point of view and issues about the device and many users just say that they are pretty happy with it, but the failures and bugs of this device are so clearly that only a blind one can claim the opposite. Many of us are just fascinated from the design of the Orbit (my case) / the Cruise, but this phone is the last I've bought from HTC.

I just one to make clear that as user I wanna a working device for my money
[Touch Cruise General] TheOnly1:
Hmmm. As a proud owner of many HTC devices (S100, Qtek 9100, Artemis and now Polaris) I must say that the Polaris has by far the best camera I've ever seen on a Win Mobile device. I must add that I've also played around with some HP devices and they had the same problems so the real fault is the OS. Before buying a HTC device you should consider what you want it for. If you want a cool camera get a Nokia, LG KG990 or a SE phone. If you want a fantastic PDA with fully functioning e-mail, web and Office apps that also let's you do all possible customizations (how many custom ROM's are there for the N95?) then you are going for HTC. It's that simple. The Polaris and all other HTC phones are not perfect but excellent value for money. At least for me. I actually swithed to Polaris because the new Igo 8 needs more memory and a fast CPU and the Polaris has them both.

Cheers :)
[Touch Cruise General] Johny1fin:
I agree. This is the best phone I have ever had and I have had about 12 in the last 9 years.

It does most things well. If you want excellent pictures then bye a camera.

An device that takes pictures is only as good as its lens, weakest link and all that.

You can see the lens on any phone without purchasing or even going into the shop. They are basically crap. If a camera had a lens this size you would not even switch it on to know its crap.

But given this the Orbit/polaris does OK.
[Touch Cruise General] Rudegar:
yeah the os itself is not really related to picture quality

only 3 factors

1 driver

2 cmos chip

3 lens
[Touch Cruise General] TryOG:
You don't have to pay for navigation on the N95 if you use a cracked, unsigned Route66 and sign it yourself.

But, still... N95 is sh*t :)

You CAN'T compare Symbian with WM.
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
Out of PDAs I had 3 before the Polaris (MDA2, Universal, Hermes), and I had the chance to test out several others as well (mostly HP and E-Ten), and the Polaris has the best image quality by far.

Out of Phones (whith camera), there were 2, (Motorola L7, V3x), but again I had the chance to test out several others like Sharp, SE, Nokia, LG, Samsung,... only a few phone can outperform the Polaris.

If you want a realy HQ photo Phone, then buy LG's Viewty (it's even cheaper than the polaris, and it has a touch screen).

The man speaks the truth :D

But the N95 lags as hell, only the 8GB version useable.
[Touch Cruise General] Olioaglio:
I cant complain about the quality.

This pic was shot indoor and i think its quite ok and have no artefacts.

Olioaglio
[Touch Cruise General] TTboy404:
after looking at those photos

I went out and took some myself.

I hate to say, but some photos are just full of artifact. And Not just a little. It shows up more in large areas of confluent colors. (ie sky's and on cars....and on roads. It stays pretty well hidden if you photo has enough going on in it (ie lots of different things, colors etc).

And yes I have a 12mega pic point and shoot, the whole point of having an all in one device would be to cover you when you aren't prepared....say a surprsie party, or I saw a car....completely covered in outlandish bumper sticers (no paint visible).....Or the time in Hawaii, the car was covered from bumper to bumper in tin foil.....tin foils and windows, it was hilarious...all completely unexpected finds so to speak.

Does the Kaiser camera fix work on the Polaris? Can a camera shop, just put a new lense on it?....and all that artifact, shouldn't come from a lense, isn't that the actual camera processing of the image?
[Touch Cruise General] TheOnly1:
Don't try a Kaiser fix. If the camera's are not identical it may force you to do a hard reset :D
[Touch Cruise General] saisallo:
it's clear that is only a matter of driver or compression problem

from here is my complain : in general poor drivers for an exceptional device (and the price too...)

also the ability to switch to different sensitivity to avoid slow shutter speed is wellcome above all at video where it suffers more for it.

polaris is most recent camera driver than kaiser and the fix has the same version of polaris.

so don't think about replace or install on kaiser.

bye
[Touch Cruise General] TTboy404:
my edit, said, found that....the kaiser forums got their fix from the polaris. I wouldn't bother to install it, as it is a moded version of what we already have.

I just want this device to be a whole lot better. Its stats are one thing, and its performance, nothing compared to what is in the qualcom specs.
[Touch Cruise General] qtek_metanol:
I'm with you TTboy404 and I kick a little here to keep this thread up...!!!!
[Touch Cruise General] TTboy404:
Just found...

I just found the new sony erricson Xperia X1 or what ever it is called. I just wonder if it is the upgraded version of our phone. Having a hard time determining if it is the same chipset.

And i did find that HTC is the manufacturer for that phone too.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/10/no-wonder-sony-ericssons-xperia-x1-is-so-good-htc-makes-it/

maybe these wonder xda people can hack it for our needed fixes, it is scheduled to come out second half this year...couple months away.
[Touch Cruise General] CompleteIdiot:
I have this exact problem on my TC camera.

Does the Cruise photo quality cab mentioned on another thread (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=378881&highlight='picture+quality') fix this?
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
It IS the problem that the fix is ment to correct... but it won't hurt to install it, and see for yourself...
[Touch Cruise General] CompleteIdiot:
Hah, you're right. Just installed the cab and there is hardly any difference. Gee, thanks HTC for nothing!
[Touch Cruise General] Pure_Water:
yeah, in my Polaris the photo quality it's not good at all for a 3mp camera, and if there's bad light in the room/whatever, the camera gets a lot of delay in the screen (don't know if this is normal or not, but it sucks). If there's good light in the room, the photo has nice quality. Videos sucks a bit. For comparison with the N95 of my father, the N95 makes photos and videos with a lot higher quality.

btw, the sound of this Polaris also sucks. so it's two things that sucks in this pda: sound and camera. But i have a mate that has a Qteck S200 and has exactly the same issues, so i guess that it's a Qteck/HTC curse...
[Touch Cruise General] hambola:
Yeah the camera with low frames per second in low light conditions is a known issue. I actually found that the cab released made a difference in the image, for example the sky doesn't have all those lines in them anymore. ymmv.
[Touch Cruise General] shaman_Turtle:
I agree with Saisallo,

Picture quality is really poor (blur, not zoom in 3Mp) and video quality is worse!!

Only a resolution of 320x240!!

The real question is video:

Is it possible to increase the size of video resolution?

Increase the number of frames per second?

choose what format: Mp4 or 3gp?

For Photo:

a menu more user-friendly as the Trinity(P3600).

Quality 3 MP Sport mode?

A Zoom mode 3Mp?
[Touch Cruise General] gnick666:
I'm not saying that the TC's 3MP camera is the best I've seen but...

Why do you want an all-in-one device to be comparable whith other 1-purpouse devices?

I would be happy if the playback would suck...

While I agree it should be atleast 640x480, there's no real need for it...

Why? I'm happy that it records in mp4
[Touch Cruise General] shaman_Turtle:
When I see a 3 MP camera, I was waiting for me to have a good quality!

Out on the TC, this is not the case.

Finally:

1 camera: 100 €

1 player MP3/MP4 (with Radio FM): 100 €

1 GPS TOMTOM: 159 €

1 Telephone: 100 €

Total: 459 €

Against

A HTC Touch Cruise: 600 €
[Touch Cruise General] sonus:
You forgot the big price addition... 1 PDA, (as well as some minor things like FM radio or cheap personal video player, I say cheap, b/c the TC doesn't do this well)
[Touch Cruise General] swiftgs:
re

Dont forget to add a backpack as well to your pricelist to get all the stuff with you then.....

I think actually that the mobile market is going so fast that peoples expectations are higher than that what designers have to give... this is no flaming at all, but i follow a lot of threads also in other subforums and i noticed that people are complaining about almost everything...

you already answered youre problem yourself, walking with a backpack or make compromises....

an 4 season tyre is also not as good as a wintertire in the winter and a summertire in the summer. but you only have to buy 4 instead of 8, just deal with it...
[Touch Cruise General] CompleteIdiot:
I think the point here is that the camera lens in the Polaris/TC/3650 is evidently not being utilised properly. The quality is worse than my previous 2 Mg Trinity/3600.

And there seems to be a software problem when viewing pictures in 'best fit' mode on PC using various software. The actual picture at 100% looks OK, even reduced to 10%, 50% etc its all right. But as soon as my viewing software trys to automatically show 'best fit' (to screen size/resolution I guess?) you get horrible lines/squares in the constant colour area such as blue sky/water, grey road etc.
[Touch Cruise General] hambola:
Did you apply the camera patch fix on HTC's site? It should take care of all those lines you talk about. Search for it on this site if you can't get it from the HTC eClub.

Found a link to the cab here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2036664&postcount=19
[Touch Cruise General] CompleteIdiot:
Yes, but I can not see any difference :(
[Touch Cruise General] GuidoPolo:
HTC Released a update for this fix

check www.htc.com
[Touch Cruise General] silverpal:
Hi,

I got a feeling your Cruise is defective. Maybe you can send it in for repairs or exchange?

I have been using mine and I don't get the same problem as you.

You can find my pictures here:

Touch Cruise Photo Album

I know the album has mainly black and white photos and thus the artifact problem does not show up but I also took a lot more colour photos, close ups and scenery shots especially after reading this thread (wanted to reproduce this issue) but so far so good.

I'm sorry I can't show you the other pictures as it was taken on a private property and I'm not allowed to publish it on the web, even for private viewing.

My settings for the camera is 3M, superfine. I did not install the patch.
[Touch Cruise General] CompleteIdiot:
GuidoPolo- I have the updated fix installed. No difference

Silverpal- thanks for info. I think my camera is OK. Originals are fine, so too compressed copies (see attached picture), and on some wesbites (e.g. http://barry.fotoblog.org.uk/p50403533.html) and on some programs (e.g. Windows photo viewer), but on other wesbites (e.g. http://www.gps-sport.net/trainings/Geneva-vinyard-ramble-with-Will_20498 , bottom right, select and expand) and other programs, e.g. Canon's Zoombrowser EX, the mono-coloured areas of photo are very bad with hatching pattern. I'm not sure, but perhaps the problem is when websites/software try to 'fit to scale' the picture?
[Touch Cruise General] geksogen:
It seems to be a software problem.When i open high resolution pics with firefox it resizes it so the photo fits the screen and on some photos i can see the exact "funny moirè and small blocks.....".It looks like the photo has been taken with high resolution and then resized for some reason
[Touch Cruise General] CompleteIdiot:
OK, if a few more people could confirm that they too have these problems (hatching of mono-coured areas when viewed 'fit to screen') perhaps we can notify HTC and wait for them to fix :D
[Touch Cruise General] silverpal:
My photos also have the same problems when I zoom to 100% or 200%. HTC released a fix on their website regarding this issue, they assumed that they have already fixed it.
[Galaxy Grand Prime Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Slenderman8090:
Good afternoon developers! I have "Resurrected" my device to stock firmware.. But, it does not promptly boot to the OS after reaching the 'TMobile' boot screen. What ever help I can get will be helpful.

Thanks,

Slenderman8090
[Galaxy Grand Prime Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wayne_Lee:
flash a rom,just this
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] sansnil:
Did Samsung really have a Galaxy Note 8 from several years ago and now a 2017 version? It seems from the forum postings this is so but I can wrap my brain around reusing the same model number so close together.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] MrAwesome75:
Yes, I believe it was a tablet; the smaller (8") version of the Note 10.1. It would be nice if the naming convention of these devices was more consistent as to not confuse people, but I'm not sure which way is better and it seems that neither do the manufacturers.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] gooberdude:
Two diff devices. The Note 8.0 is this thread, and it is a tablet, unless you are in the UK, which is a phablet.

No comparisons, yet newbies want to post threads here without taking notice the device shown for reference and the bazillions of posts are older than the new Note 8.

Most all here know and state their devices by model number and have used Note 8.0 not Note 8 as a name, unless they are lazy and don't type the .0 at the end.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] PJng89:
http://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8505&idPhone2=5252

Very different device
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phoenix Fire:
Dear forum,

my friend has a zenfone z00d with 8gb/2gb. With lineage os, it is quite perfect, hybrid storage solves the disk problem and the Rom is very fast. However she has a very big problem: with Wind (Italian operator) she has to periodically reboot the device because it continuously says "no-signal"; after a reboot no problem for some time. Another ?friend with op1 and lineageos has similar problem with the same operator, so I think that this operator has some incompatibility with this rom.

Have you got any suggestion to solve the problem or you can show me a Rom with difference base (aosp for example) with the hope that the problem disappear?

thanks
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gus39:
i'm interested to solve this problem, subscribe this 3d and hope to find a solution

i'm in the same situation, lineageos with italian wind sim.

G.
[Android Apps and Games] agmtpd:
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Hope you guys find it useful.

Here is the aoo description:

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You can add your own custom messages templates in the app itself
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] jimmkhn:
Why after root Samsung s8 g950fd magisk modules don't enable after reboot, plz help to enable this modules
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] jimmkhn:
Plz help
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] xpose891:
Help

Same problem...!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Jwikoff99:
All of a sudden last night, Vudu decides it won't work on my rooted N7 with pure nexus marshmallow. I tried a couple root hiders from google play with no joy. Then I tried wiping and reinstalling the ROM without rerooting, and it still won't work. Got any tips?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Cybersurreel:
Same issue

I had the same issue start last night on my t95z plus. I tried hide my root and root cloak plus and neither worked. I worry that vudu marks a device as rooted and it cannot be reversed as vudu tracks devices already. Makes me really frustrated as I have been using my box as the primary vudu watcher and have over 100 movies on it. Stupid DRM hurting the people who actually pay to watch content. Let me know if you find something that works for you.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Jwikoff99:
I installed the latest PureNexus Nougat, and Vudu still refused even though it doesn't come rooted. So I uninstalled Vudu, installed Magisk, then reinstalled Vudu. It works now, but will only play SD and I know casting is gone too. I wonder if I can get Magisk installed with the marshmallow PN I was using before.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Jwikoff99:
So I went back to PN Marshmallow and installed Magisk 14.0, made sure Hide was set, and I'm back in business! Vudu works again with HDX playback. Don't know if it matters or not, but I made sure to uninstall Vudu before installing Magisk, just to make sure the Vudu install is clean and not "pre-tainted."
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] Aliscorp:
is there any way to install magisk in tmobille s7 edge ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answer] nitroevo:
No.
[Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 Q&A, Help & Trouble] Owenboy89:
Hi

I have installed Lineage 14.1 (Android 7 ROM) and Gapps. It's runs on the google launcher which is pretty awesome but it doesn't feel right as the tablet is a Samsung.

I know the word "Touchwiz" can cause arguments in the android world but I want to install the s8 touchwiz as it is really smooth and a massive improvement on it predecessors. I have installed an Apk like I have done on my s7e but it just says "Touchwiz has stopped working"

Is there other apps that I need so the touchwiz can run?

(Note I am just interested installing the touchwiz not the other samsung apps (bloatware) but obviously if there are any samsung system apps I need, I don't mind installing them)

Thanks