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[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] romcio47:
NO RCT Kernel is useful only when you have non-systemless root, f.e. SuperSU, SuperUser. Magisk is systemless so RCT won't even launch.

I don't want to hate this thread but this seems pretty much like my battery life on stock ROM... with no tweaks applied at all, really.

Now I'm on Fulmics ROM and it's even better than this. Also with no tweaks at all, just blank ROM with systemless root because I need it.

Besides I'd think a little bit more about Greenify's efectiveness right now. I gave it so many chances and every time it failed in providing better battery life, sometimes it even made it worse because it was constantly killing background processes so my phone had to wake everything up again. And yes, I tried everything, even Magisk module to enable more options. Still it's not the same Greenify like on earlier Android versions (on my old Xperia Z3 Compact it was awesome, but on G6 it sucks) so in my opinion, there is no sense in installing it unless it will be fully compatible with Android, I mean Xposed will fully work on Nougat.

Also I suggest just not killing any apps in Recent Apps. In my almost seven-year adventure with Android I was ALWAYS killing/closing every app I could. Now I just press home button and it's much better. I only kill an app when it behaves strangely or hangs up. Otherwise the phone uses more power to launch it again, rather than resume the process from cached processes which (mostly) does not consume any CPU power.

But that's just my opinion.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jsyd09:
Wondering if anyone uses lspeed and if it would be worth it.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Killua96:
Tried many times, didn't notice any improvements with different configurations
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] K3V1991:
• Added Prevent Running (Xposed Module) Tested & works
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] K3V1991:
Short NFO:

• My Phone uses only

1,2GB

(Idle)

• After Unplug my Phone it keeps Juice

over 2 Days

(SOT)
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] K3V1991:
Added:

Easy DPI Changer

Window Anitmation Scale
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pondy:
How does DPI changer help?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] K3V1991:
Changing the DPI/Resolution can help to save Battery
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] K3V1991:
Added some Infos
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] K3V1991:
Added Facebook Replacement & Titanium Backup
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jdock:
Lower resolution means less pixels to draw on the screen which means less work to be done which means less battery usage goes to displaying things.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] K3V1991:
Added new Tools
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ammar_maher:
Great [MENTION=5893698]wild wadi[/MENTION]

can i suggest something if you do not mind ?

i suggest that users who will post in this thread to start with a report that contains the following :

1 - Device model and Modem & Bootloader.

2 - Kernel and ROM.

3 - A screenshot of the battery usage.

4 - A screenshot of Gsam battery monitor ( App sucker,system,screen)

5 - if you are using Xposed ( mention the modules )

6 - If you are using Lspeed and Kernel auditor ( mention the tweaks )
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Eleo:
I didnt understand "Phronesis, Magma NX or Aspire ROMs" part on OP and thread title. What about Darklord Reborn, AryaMOD s7edge, AryaMOD n7, Emassry266, Possibe FS and etc? Can it be generalized as "Touchwiz MM port"s? Or you are interested on only those ROMs?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wild wadi:
My experience is with those 3, they are popular and sufficient to give us some idea. Let's not muddy the water here.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] menioseten:
3.5 years old stock battery.

Kernel stock settings.

No Xposed

No Lspeed View attachment 4284850View attachment 4284851View attachment 4284852View attachment 4284853View attachment 4284854
[Galaxy Note 3 General] hytman2002:
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !

Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.

Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....

My respect to only one guy !
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Eleo:
So what is your usage? I shared mine on previous page here. But I dont know your usage. I have wifi/data/location/sync turned on. Bluetooth -> off (i dont have bluetoot device). My apps are present. I use new samsung battery less than a year old. I dont play games. I use quickedit app, mixplorer, mixplorer text editor, apltool x for modding. Youtube, mxplayer for watching video. Samsung music for listening audio (on screen off, not counted in sot value).

Kernel adiutor

1. undervolt (different pvs value device (google to find what it is) will tolerate different values). find your device's sweet spot. I decrease global to -20 mV and 288 to 650mV. I have seen users who got reboots when going below -10mV global and also users with using -50mV global with no issue. Different pvs number different results. Mine was 2 if my mind doesnt fool me.

2. Low memory killer (I adjust higher values so that it doesnt make device slow). It does not affect battery directly.

3. You can change cpu freq but with phantom kernel it is programmed good so I moslty dont even touch it.

Smart Manager:

I advise c5 or s7 sm because it can control apps in background better monitoring ram usage. It is also advised for s4 users since they have 2GB RAM w.r.t. 3 GB RAM of note3 (case for MagMa NX).

Bluelight filter:

Around 20% normal, in dimmer places 50%. At night up to 100%. I edit filter.cfg string for decreasing brightness.

Then check your battery stats to see what is using your battery. I have seen google services and system (adsprcd) using high battery. For google services there are xposed and magisk modules to optimize its used battery. I myself am using button mapper and kill playstore app after openning it (I also disable auto update notifications from playstore -> it updates only when I want). System (adsprcd) was caised by google assistant listening on background. I disabled "ok google" prompt. I use only via long press home button because I dont get hansfree usage at all.

These are wbat I remember from my tweaks and with my usage I get 6-8hrs sot. I hope they are useful

Dont expect getting high sot if you are playing online/heavy games, using media editing stuff (mainly video), bluetooth devices and watching full brightness 1080p youtube videos. But you will see the app usage in gsam battery monitor (stock battery usage will not give you 3rd party app usage info in spite of what is told). Also, we are now optimizing to decrease battery usage by infinity wallpaper on MagMa NX.

APP USAGE is VERY important. That is why when I dont get that info I cannot troubleshoot.

P.S. I use mobile app. "Ignore user" function has not been brought to android

;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MikeChannon:
Yes, turned into a bit of a "ding-dong" :eek: so I've cleaned some posts.

Please stay on topic, avoid getting "narky" and I also removed a thanks type post... please use thanks button for that:)

Mike
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kraken77:
Yeah thats true. Tweaks from other people using are not the same with other users. App disable, how frequent they have used their phones, on idle or etc. Even they send the screenshot and copied their setup, it depend on how we use our phone. For me SOT screenshot are rubbish. If you all need a good battery life phone, get the exynos version instead(for samsung phone). Theres many comparison talking about sd and exynos on samsung(not gonna explain here). If you got some money just buy the 10K mah zerolemon batteries. Theres too many thread talking about battery, kernels and tweaks, how much more do we need?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ravenchalk:
Kind of agree, except for maybe the aryamod. They're kinda old now, discontinued. Old as in the apps in magma and resis are like a year newer. I personally only use magma and resis anymore, and for the record, I get 24hrs SOT. I just don't unplug it ever.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] goathacker:
Good thread. I am getting 3h 40m SoT on average with MagmaNX . N900t. Don't have any social media apps except instagram (which i froze).

I honestly believe this phone on anything more than Lollipop is incapable of getting more than 4hrs SoT with "normal" usage (wifi/mobile on). Even with mid-level power saving. The overwhelming number of people who report their SoT is definitive.

Ive been using roms for different phones for 6 years now. This is one of the few where there's such a disparity between what the developer says what "battery life" is and what the average user is reporting.

Whatever "Android System" and "Kernel" is, they are killing the battery

On Lollipop, I was getting 5.5 SoT. On average. With the same battery / apps / usage.

So I will be going back to stock Lollipop. It's unfortunate.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] zack483:
Magma ux10.

Phantom kernel

Kernel audiutor

Xposed installed

Old battery

:eek::silly:

I choose to focused on smoothness and no lags than sot. :silly:

What point to have longer sot if u lower the perfomance to almost like the first galaxy s1 perfomance or a cheap copy smartphone. :laugh:

:silly:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Eleo:
Couldnt agree more:good::highfive:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Rexor10:
Up to five hours SOT on '13 battery! (RR 5.8.5 with stock kernel)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Eleo:
You may need to READ the THREAD TITLE and OP again. It is not only for TW MM port ROMs, but also for only 3 ROMs, Phronesis, MagMa NX and Aspire ROMs as said here.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] hytman2002:
As [MENTION=4598795]Eleo[/MENTION] said only for 3 Roms but your Sot is kinda low i will say on RR Rom .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Rexor10:
I think it's because my battery is kinda worn - it was charged over 4700 (!) times so it may have lower capability... But I'm still satisfied with it! (That doesn't mean I wouldn't order new one soon :D)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Rexo_75:
I didnt like the kernels on magma but I started tweeking the lss kernel because it gave me about those 6hours SOT. Therefore I undervolt like 35-50mV and some more stuff in synapse https://m.imgur.com/a/SHEi7 , but I still could not get those 8h.SOT. I did not play games, but i used for instance facebook/messenger, photos etc. I have my note3 for almost 3 years with the stock battery. I also disabled some unused apps. However, the phone performance like scrolling or moving from app to app was laggy. Honestly, now Im on Ressurection Remix https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-resurrection-remix-n-v5-8-3-vanilla-t3615227 and performance is great, no lags, everything is really smooth on android 7 but i miss the samsung apps and features. On the other hand, the samsung apps are badly optimized, bcs samsung. If i had to compare the samsung vs google original apps, i would say that google apps are better and smoother. But, the RR rom has bad battery life for me and Im thinking of returning to Magma now :)

Its all strange because when you watch original S8 battery test, the phone doesnt get more than 6-7 hours sot. I think that OEMs are holding all the progress back, bcs we can see that the same hours can be achieved on 4 year older phones. Thats why they dont update the old phones, bcs they just want us to buy their new product each year. They are better in performance, but for normal usage like browsing the internet or calling you dont see that much difference unless you play games. Im not even excited about new phones bcs its all the same with small changes.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Eleo:
You are doing a colossal mistake by not comparing the testing conditions. To get any comparable result you should test all those devices on same conditions same environment same reception same usage by yourself. Otherwise you can never compare those results.

I do my all test under nearly identical conditions thus I can compare my old results to my new results and say that "this tweak increases/decreases/doesnt change sot".

I have seen reports for google pixel xl previous year stating that it lasts 4-5 hours sot. I can assure you that under same conditions you cannot even get 3 hours with note 3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vordx:
+1.

Those new phones aren't even debloated as those custom ROMs, most of the services if not all of them are enabled.

Not mentioning their performance compared to note 3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Davolex1:
Beautiful thread
[Galaxy Note 3 General] itemmaster:
I get better SoT lowering the resolution and changing the dpi (resolution 720x1280 @ 280 dpi) but have problems with screen capture, action memo and camera, no other issues and really don't see the diference in video or navigation.

Rom phronesis v7

phantom kernel

no xposed

kernel adiutor max 3 cores at 2112 alucard governor
[Galaxy Note 3 General] redmi_3g:
owh....

i jump from darklord reborn v4.0 rom to phronesis v7.0 rom

i really shock...huge different in performance..with the same kernel lss3.8UX..i can get nearly 6 hour sot with my 1 year old sunglobal 3650mah battery on both darklord reborn & phronesis rom..

im not to condemn the developers hard work here

im prefer phronesis coz its so smooth and features rich

btw..both rom i use lss3.8UX kernel with

interactive gov

1720mhz cpu

-30v

stock hotplug

sio

the point is right....wanna get higher SOT like others and ended with all mess up..

5 hour SOT is good already for our great oldies mighty note 3..cheers guys
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Aaronmod:
Hi all, how much difference does the baseband version make to SOT? I have followed all the advice I can except changing that because it is a faff. I'm only getting about 3 hours SOT at the moment.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Eleo:
Yours is quite up to date (android 5.0). It will not make much (if any) difference with repect to SOT if you update it. If it was from kitkat (android 4.x), it could cause some troubles. Read (or search to find) posts in this thread, kernel thread and ROM thread to see how can you increase SOT whilst not compromising from the device performance.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Aaronmod:
Thanks Eleo, my phone just buzzed saying I had been quoted by Eleo, I thought the moustache of fury was coming to get me ;)

I have been keeping quiet and just searching because I get so fed up with people not searching and asking things like "why is battery dead!!!!!!!"

To my knowledge I've done everything I can apart from installing a magisk module to effect Google services. I've undervolted, got smart manager 7, not installed xposed, using phantom 1.2x, reduced screen brightness, sorted low memory killer, etc. etc. (It's a hlte international note 3)

I don't think I've got a bad motherboard in the phone and am using a genuine Samsung battery of 1 year old. What would be really helpful would be if you could say what you do when you install a ROM specifically related to battery life. I know I'm missing something.

I'll keep searching, but any thoughts welcome.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Eleo:
Those are quite good modifications:good: I dont know if I have anything else to add to this.

Unfortunately there is no test to this. But I can show you many users who have passd 7-8hrs sot with your tweaks. So I dont know... it could be that your usage is high. But I cannot comment on it without seeing your settings/battery and gsam battery monitor screens. Also betterbatterystats screenshots will help too to indentify any wakelocks if present.

This made my day:D:laugh:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wild wadi:
[MENTION=4598795]Eleo[/MENTION] & [MENTION=7026737]TheOldMan[/MENTION]

Finally reached that elusive mountaintop 8 hours SOT!

OK....OK .... on a full blast Note 9 : )
[Galaxy Grand Prime Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crowbgd:
Hi

have problem with this Samsung (my godfather). Problem is Emergency call only. Software or hardware problem? I se on internet that he can be a problem cert file?
[Security Discussion] midnightrider:
Hi guys,

Can anybody please point me to some info on the details for the crypto implementations in Nougat? I'm interested in technical details like which ciphers are used, how key management is done, whethere there is any UI to tune or change various crypto options.

I am also interested in any page(s) that might have a concise listing of upgrades to Nougat crypto over Marshmallow. I have been looking around and so far have not really found any good info on this and the above question.

Lastly, since the boot changed on Nougat and programs are supposed to be able to get control at an early boot stage to do some limited operations I have been expecting some vulnerabilities or even exploits to have occurred. Do you know of any issues with this?

Thanks.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] exce1ia:
Hello what would be the most stable ROMs available for OP5. I wanna try out.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] roba93:
I tried almost every custom ROM, for my needs i think the Fusion rom is the best stable daily driver.

The only thing that needs to be done is replace AOSP stock apps (dailer,messenger,clock) with the OpenGapps versions.

Battery is awsome and its snappy/stable as hell :)

Feel free to ask if you have any questions
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Eagle-no1:
Is the camera's functions the same as the stock ROM. :confused:
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] roba93:
The ROM has oos camera :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Eagle-no1:
Thanks, i try this ROM weekend.:p
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Augustin79:
Are you using any 3rd party kernel or the one that comes with the ROM?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] roba93:
Lightning kernel Comes with the rom and works fine.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Aarju:
But every time I flash the fusion rom I get errors like .comandroid what to do with that.????
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] roba93:
If the error comes right after flashing the ROM (first boot) just reboot your system while on the welcome screen, should work fine after that :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Aarju:
Ok thanks should I flash gapps with rom or after successful boot up ?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] roba93:
Flash rom, flash opengapps, flash Magisk, Reboot.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Aarju:
Ok bro have you used Legend rom ???
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] roba93:
Tried it yes, but out of all i like the Fusion the most atm (Nexus addict)

All roms are amazing but imo fusion fits my needs :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Aarju:
Ok thanks for fast replies made me to download
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] exce1ia:
I tried RR and Legend ROM and their fingerprint scanner is slower. Why is it?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] zelendel:
Honestly. They are both based off of LOS so they will not be very different except for some options here or there. So if one has an issue then both normally does. Mainly if it is a LOS issue.

Then you have the difference between AOSP code and the code that is "made" for the device. The closed sourced code will always work better. That is just the way it is.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] exce1ia:
I understand. Thanks!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] WaxysDargle:
there's no such thing as a best ROM! it all depends on your usage! bla bla bla LOL jk

where are all the jellybean ROMs at? jk

i'm partial to paranoidandroid, myself, but can also attest to freedom os as well. both are great.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] buski:
XxX + gravity box
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] z0mghii:
My vote goes to pure fusion
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] xxBrun0xx:
Stock rom is DOPE. Love how many options for custom ROMs we've got, but damn is oxygen os good. I'm a big fan of simpleGX kernel and Magisk with stock ROM. Multi day battery life, performance is amazing, fingerprint is fast, camera is great, no bugs, no random reboots, etc. Love it!
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] thiagoserrao:
The stock rom habe random reboots, i usually get some 2 per month... But stock is good enought for me:D
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] exce1ia:
Is the Pure Fusion ROM's fingerprint speed almost fast as Stock ROM? I really liked the instantaneous response of the fingerprint scanner.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] rickysidhu_:
My vote is also PureFusion and I've had no issues with the fingerprint scanner (it's fast af for me lol)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] marko94:
What about kernel? Which one is good and most used ?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] gianton:
Yes the same fast. Love the stock Nexus feel in Pure Fusion ROM combined with stock gapps package.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] exce1ia:
Looks like I'm gonna try this. Does it hace an option to remove vibration when fingerprint is successful?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] roba93:
Try RR with flash kernel, fingerprint lag is gone :)

Altough i prefer the Pure fusion ROM.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] exce1ia:
I see. I'm pretty new here. Didn't knew a kernel would speed it up. I'm gonna try that too! Thanks.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Hitman478™:
Go PureFusion, is the best you can have on your oneplus 5 :good: you'll not regret, trust me :)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Jazzzzz:
Is VoWiFi working in the most recent builds of PureFusion? I searched the thread and some posts about 20 pages back from current mention it's not, but there have been updates since then (and no notice of any changes around voice over wifi). I'm fed up with the bluetooth issues in OOS - LOS and AOSP ROMs don't seem to have any problems - but must have working vowifi due to poor signal strength in my home office.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] PanNet:
I am using H2OS as a daily driver and I am happy with. No errors, lags, reboots etc. You can record yours calls etc. Original luncher is ok but you can use other ones without lags etc. Chinese apps can be very easily removed. So if you do not need other languages except English you can try it out.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jhs39:
I've tried two different builds of Pure Fusion and couldn't get either to work well with my phone carrier MintSim. It's the only ROM I've ever tried that I couldn't get a decent phone signal on.

It doesn't seem to bother anybody but the PureFusion network settings selections are identical to the ones used on Nexus/Pixel phones and don't correspond at all with the ones that the manufacturer of the OP5 uses.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] xcha0tic:
Just got the phone but also curious for when I do put a custom rom. I see a lot of people talk about fusion but how is no limits rom
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] rickysidhu_:
Best thing to do honestly is flash and find out for yourself. You will always get a better answer by experiencing the ROMs for yourself as opposed to someone else telling you how they liked it
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jhs39:
I thought stock OOS with Blu Spark kernel performed much better than xXx No Limits. That one is an OOS based ROM. Those don't tend to add much in the way of features compared with stock that the phone already runs. xXx No Limits supposedly improves the performance of the phone and Freedom ROM is a debloated version of stock OOS. I wasn't impressed with either of them. Pure Fusion (which doesn't work for me unfortunately) or Paranoid Android aren't OOS based and completely change the experience of using the OP5. Those ROMs also add a lot of features you don't get with OOS based ROMs. You might want to play with stock OOS and a custom kernel before flashing a custom ROM so you at least have something to compare the custom ROM to.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] xcha0tic:
Thank you! I told myself yesterday to stick with stock a bit before diving into ROMs. =)
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] 350Rocket:
I wanted to stick with stock but my issues with the stock ROM not working with banking apps is really pissing me off. Banking apps were one thing leaning me towards the oneplus 5 because I figured not rooting would be better for banking apps working. Even though my old Rooted s6 worked fine with banking apps and Android pay with magisk root.