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[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Old friend:
"The Honor 8 Pro and Honor 9 are the two lucky devices that will receive the upgrade this month. Honor 7X owners should have to wait until Q2 2018, while the Honor 8 situation is complicated. According to the rep, an upgrade to Oreo is not coming yet, but “will have a surprise in this regard in the near future”."

https://m.gsmarena.com/future_honor_phones_to_come_with_189_displays-news-29422.php
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Lukke2804:
Yeah thats the "surprise".

To be honest, they say "features from EMUI 8 and OREO. A REAL surprise would be treble support or the release of Kernel sources. If they would do this, I would even forgive them the breaking of their 24Months update promise to some extent
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] dkionline:
BS again, no 7.2 got ever released and wont never release any 7.1 from huawei/honor.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Lukke2804:
Well we dont know we can just assume at this point. But since they said about the H8 that its "a bit complicated" anything is possible...
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
Nothing is complicated that's just other words that they're lazy.

If they say it's complicated it's their own fault for messing up the partitions. They have all possibility to make things right. It's up to them
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Lukke2804:
I think the "complicated" refers to the type of update we will get, not to hard-/softwarelimitations.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ivanlaki:
Oh boi, I wish I could downgrade Honor8 to ICS..
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] asaditya379:
Didn't anyone ever tell you to stay happy and satisfied with what you already have? Picture in picture, notification dots? AI features on a phone that doesn't have an NPU? That's what you want? QUIT NAGGING BOI!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] flip360:
As mentioned before, boi, we want the full fledged oreo update!!!

No BS nougat ports, no s****y emui 8 features, we want the Android 8 OS upgrade with all its little under the hood fixes that people like you don't get.

Also fo AA website today: https://www.androidauthority.com/ho...834574/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Maverick Honor:
Now this is encouraging news... We will need to confirm with other sources as well...

Dunno if Honor person mistook it for Honor 8 pro..:p
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
Yeah and a honor support said you'll get 7.2 so what's new?

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It's not complicated it's stupid. They seriously take the long way then instead of the easy one.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Saagarwani1991:
they should directly go for oreo 8.1 for Honor 8 if they are taking that much time
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Lukke2804:
The small versions are always skipped by Huawei/honor so I dont think we will ever see oreo 8.1 on our device unless with a custom rom
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Saagarwani1991:
Maybe its because they have different Honor 8 devices in different countries, like Indian version is single sim & 32 gb while european versions are dual sim . and also different band frequencies.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Giuskiller:
Guys, i don't mean to food speculation, i just want to inform you that Honor Italy today told me that B401 (January Security Patches) update it's on the way for Italian models of H8 (So we're talking about EU variants) and then confirmed that actually only EMUI 8.0 features (not even Emui itself let me understand) will be ported to Honor 8 and assured that even if Oreo will not come (they're still unsure about this) will surely have all the major features of oreo. What a shame. However i'm attaching the screenshot. Just...it's in italian so could be useless for most of you but i wish to add "sources" to my speech.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] alen1901:
Bug.hr which is Croatian tech site posted info about Huawei leakster Roland Quandt saying that this month honor 8 pro and honor 9 will get oreo and honor 7x will get oreo in Q2. Honor 8 won't get oreo but he said I quote: "owners of honor 8 devices won't get oreo upgrade but in near future, they can expect positive surprise in regard of that question".

https://www.bug.hr/mobiteli/buduci-honor-uredjaji-samo-s-fullview-zaslonima-2676

Pure Honor 8
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] _DaveP_:
It's no leak, Honor UK are pursuing on twitter that the 9 and 8 Pro are getting Oreo from now onwards.

We will be getting an update but it's still going to be 7.0 just with some emui 8.0 features which is a load of crap as Huawei are giving Oreo to the mate 8 which is identical Soc to ours.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Ultimatez906:
Major features? Wow we're getting treble! /s
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
It's just an assumption as of now. It may be features only and not treble support as it needs Oreo to fully support but let's see what they do
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] radhaddiab:
No i reas an article says oreo will be coming for our phones
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Giuskiller:
Unfortunately i don't think so. As far as i know, project treble is Android 8.0 based, so it comes only with oreo. Probably they were talking about other features and i think mostly related to skin (maybe EMUI 8.0)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ayush rao:
Alright I might sound a little salty here but have u ever used Oreo before? I have it and it isn't great. PiP is just over hyped. Notifications dots are available on any launcher like Nova and people claiming that it greatly improves battery life and performance are saying that because of placebo effect. On a 1.5 year old phone Oreo might actually do more harm than good. Further abt the 2 years of updates, they clearly state that for the first year new features will be added and for the next year updates will be given to maintain performance. If u read the heading of an article from a random site who'll definitely make such a claim to attract viewers and believed that u will get 2 versions of Android it is ur fault.

Of course it would be nice to get treble but it isn't the end of this phone if we don't get Oreo, especially when they r promising they'll give security patches.

App incompatibility due to running older versions of Android is an issue I guarantee u will NEVER face. In fact it might be the complete opposite since most developers won't be bothered to update their app to meet the newer API standards so Oreo won't make a difference there.

So please I understand u feel cheated but u paid close to around $400 and that too in 2016, so be grateful that u r recieving updates. The phones u r comparing it to r flagships, if u compared the Honor 8 to a 2016 Samsung mid-ranger u'd be surprised to see that we have recieved alot more updates and atleast Honor still cares abt this device enough to inform it's customers abt it's future.

It is the ignorance of customers to not read the whole page. IT IS CLEARLY GIVEN IN THEIR PAGE and I read it when I purchased the phone. The only reason Samsung is successful is their clever marketing. Compare the Honor 8 to a Samsung mid-ranger and u'll see that the performance on this thing is amazing and software updates are way better than what Samsung is doing.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] KingOfHearts13:
Seems i'm the only person on here who wants Oreo On our Honor 8 for Substratum purposes.

Not a fan of EMUI Themes
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] infernalhotdog7777:
Latest Security patches what a joke ????? ?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Lukke2804:
Why dont you rebrand to FRD-L09C432? This one actually has the december patch and the january one is rolling out for certain countries too
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
That's a good solution. But not risk-free and that's not what the consumer should be doing to have a rightful support.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] hackslash:
What. You want Oreo for substratum support. There's still legacy support available for EMUI 5 and it works great.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Ultimatez906:
How did you do that?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
+1
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] hackslash:
I wrote a guide in the 'Guides' section.

https://xdaforums.com/honor-8/how-to/guide-using-substratum-themes-emui5-t3717215
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] flip360:
Your saltiness is excused.

Anyway i have used Oreo on my N5X and its certainly better than Nougat in every bit and piece.

The BS that they are giving us comes from their laziness and unwillingness to just update the H8 to the latest Android version because, you guessed it, they want us to buy a new phone. BS!!!

As i said before, there's not a single obstacle, hw or software wise for the H8 to not get Android 8 upgrade.

All of this nonsence about Oreo features on Nougat or emui8 features on emui5, backporting, security "updates" which are not really updates, and even they are not in sync in different countries, lying with xda about collaborating just for one phone that is more than able?

Sounds to me like they are the worst company EVER!

I paid as much as they wanted for their FLAGSHIP phone, don't tell me its a midranger according to the price.

Honor and Huawei should be ASHAMED for treating their customers like this.

#honornevermore
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
Where's it's said that mate 8 getting Oreo?

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As of now substratum doesn't help much anyway since themes are built for the open source versions instead of emui
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] hackslash:
In Huawei Chinese forums. https://weibo.com/1945906841/FFJfa03uP
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] _DaveP_:
Thanks, my Honor 8 had been playing up, couldn't use pub unlock as every time I order a button it would double it, slight panic but suited for now.

Wii have to look into your guide on using substratum themes too.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] KingOfHearts13:
I'm not rooted. But i'll give a try see how it works :p
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] hackslash:
And because you're not rooted, it will not work.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ayush rao:
Really Oreo on my Nexus 5X has been really crappy. The phone hangs all the time and the battery life isnt as good as it used to be.

I get how u're annoyed abt the updates from Huawei but it's the case with any other company in android. OnePlus seems to be doing a decent job for now but once they become really successful I'm really sure they're going to start ****ing with us like Huawei. Samsung, Motorola, Lenovo, etc. everybody does it.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
I must say that must been a **** release you got of oreo because it doesn't hang anywhere on honor 8 pro. Runs really smooth
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ayush rao:
Probably, I haven't formatted the phone after the update but it just sucks on the Nexus 5X. Especially the YouTube app is insanely buggy and crashes all the time. Well atleast it hasn't bootlooped yet ;).
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
Youtube works fine here it must been incompatible version or something else. Though my usage on YouTube app is so little i can't tell.

Otherwise oreo sucks because xposed isn't working neither does any sound mod so basically it's locked down.

And selinux change isn't possible since huawei disabled this in kernel
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] staups:
End of the story :D
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Saagarwani1991:
Where did you find this image?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ThePS4Gamer:
It's from Honor France. They recently confirmed it.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
This only mentions emui 8 not android 8 so don't get too sad if it's only a emui update you'll get and not actual android 8
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] staups:
Here they say that also Oreo is officially comfirmed. It's an italian article, but to be onest i haven't found any article in english Like this

https://www.tuttoandroid.net/honor/honor-8-honor-7x-android-8-0-oreo-ufficiale-date-roll-out-545277/
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] alextremz:
Hello, my first participation in the forum!

The Italian's information (thanks staups) comes from the launch of honor 9 lite, a French site also relayed it

(as I am a new user i can't post link, but you can surely find on twitter looking for frandroid, or if you want the link mp me)

But there is nowhere written OREO but EMUI 8, at the end it can be that they give us an adapted EMUI 8 working on Nougat...

Anyway, they announce it for the second quarter of this year, we will see what happens next months..
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
https://www.gsmarena.com/honor_update_9_phones_oreo_based_emui_8-news-29277.php

Until further reliable updates, this is the official stance: No Oreo for Honor 8, just EMUI 8
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] mrskyou:
:good::good::good:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Sheldd:
End of the story? That will be a drem, but not. They are still a lot of anoying people that will continue with this subject even when the Honor 135 will be released, Samsung and Apple will dissapear and we are gonna take the breakfast with aliens (Only the breakfast because they wont like our lunch and dinner). They wont understand that this should stop, we dont need to give each others opinion and the best thing want we can do is to wait and see.

No offence to anyone. Thanks!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] flip360:
I dont know how many users including yourself have to READ THIS: EMUI8 IS Android 8 Oreo! Godamnit!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ThePS4Gamer:
Are you sure about it? Because I'm not so sure.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] _DaveP_:
It's all a bit annoying now, one country states features others say Oreo, Honor need to come out and say what it is we are actually getting.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] flip360:
Maybe i came a bit strong on that last post, sorry if it sounded harsh.

I am sure that if we receive EMUI8 it will be Oreo.

My guess is that the missing EMUI8 features would be dependent on the AI hw in the 970 CPU.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] _DaveP_:
Android Authority are now reporting we will get Oreo.

Fingers crossed, as if we do my next phone will be another Honor

https://www.androidauthority.com/honor-7x-honor-8-android-oreo-update-836119/
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ThePS4Gamer:
Quote form a French user:

This is my answer to this:

YES! THIS is the end of the story. Please close this thread now. ("L'un ne va pas sans l'autre. Vous aurez bien Oreo avec EMUI 8!" in English: One does not go without the other. You will have Oreo with Android 8!)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Tel864:
OMG, it's freaking unbelievable that people will still insist that this phone will get Oreo. Honor announced that they were renaming EMUI so it's version number will align with the Android version. They then announced that Oreo was NOT compatible with Honor 8 and therefore would not get Oreo. They also announced that the version of EMUI 8 that is included with Oreo would not be completely compatible with Honor 8 but they would release a compatible version of EMUI 8 especially for the Honor 8. It has been reported over and over the last week or so but folks still can't get it in their thick heads. Here's another great explanation of it. Hell, we're not even getting the full EMUI 8.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanwh...i-8-features-but-no-oreo-update/#6c437b8f5bcd
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] droidbot1337:
the thing is........... its really not. before anything, lets keep **** civil and not start to attack each other. having said that, no! emui is nothing more than a skin and a set of optimizations over android. as far as i know not much of emui8 is api dependent.

what honor has officially stated is that all devices will get emui8...... but not all will get oreo and even those that do might not get treble which is the important function in this entire debacle.

personally, i could care less about emui8..... just launch a treble based rom and most will be happy. by the time android q rolls around treble will have made a huge impact on how we use our devices.

just in case the h8 doesn't get treble though, a hacked together treble rom will most likely be made by the h8 devs. and to those who dont understand the significance of treble..... the h8 will be obsolete soon as it nears its EOL date.

sure you might be okay with running an old and outdated android version...... but what about security?? treble will in essence destroy obsolescence which will allow devices to be used until they suffer catastrophic hardware failure.

this might not matter when considering cheap devices like the h8 but when you buy galaxy s9 or pixel 3 which costs far more, its nice to know that your gonna be able to use it until it breaks and not need to upgrade after only 2 years.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ThePS4Gamer:
Are you living under a rock for two weeks? It's an outdated information... So many things were changed from 2 weeks ago. I think the picture from Honor France clearly says that they changed their mind.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] flip360:
The only thick headed skulls are the ones you and the other users like you carrying it.

We know that EMUI8 is not the OS.

We read and talked about the different informations that came out, if we get it, its going to come with Android 8 which is Oreo. Is that hard to comprehend?

ThePS4Gamer said it nicely though.

Its like you are cheering for Honor to screw us up with some imaginary update of yours.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Vysakh M Nair:
What is wrong with all u guys.. The EMUI 8 is gonna be an upgrade not an update.. That means its gonna be a new version of android.. I have seen mI doing the update with missing some features and an update over an upgrade given to lower end phones. But that doeant means Honor is gonna do the same for us. Yes.. They have told it that they will port some features and give an update to us at first.. But bear in mind that honor has never been consistent with thier words for honor 8.. In latest post told on honor oreo thread some guy posted a screenshot of a honor representative saying honor is getting EMUi 8 which is running oreo.. Come on.. What more do u guyz wanna hear.. Thats the end of the discussion that EMUI 8 is oreo or not for honor 8.

Lets hope honor wont change thier current decitions for honor 8 in coming days. And Only time will tell that..
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] TurasPl:
Honor in Poland just confirmed EMUI 8 for Honor 8 for Q2 2018,

https://www.facebook.com/honorpl/?h...cHBCSPOQWdihhivARYAVz6hodWUr57nETZXmw&fref=nf

Enjoy...
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
Well as they said they will provide backport of features you'll never know.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ThePS4Gamer:
Just think about it... This would be a horrendous waste of time and resources if they port EMUI 8 or its features to Honor 8. And Honor France clearly said that they will provide Android 8.0 with EMUI 8.0.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
Yeah it would be waste of resource yes we all know that. Well they can say it's coming but I won't take it as it will. They can withdraw their statement any time
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] flip360:
I think we will know in a short while, according to Honor France and Poland too, won't we my honor 8 pro friend?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
Most likely [emoji39] don't worry I have a honor 8 here which will get noticed if oreo comes or not. While I myself personally don't have a working phone. I know one which has. [emoji6] so don't worry ill keep that in a safe spot so I can get noticed if it'll be available [emoji28]
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ThePS4Gamer:
Now Honor India, the originator of the Oreo controversy, says optimistic informations, too. They are saying that the Oreo firmware for Honor 8 is under testing. Hooray! :D :good:

https://twitter.com/WaG_Gaming/stat...y|twsrc^android|twgr^copy|twcon^7090|twterm^1
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] asaditya379:
Are you still waiting for your under the hood to change boi?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Giuskiller:
For who can read italian, take a look here. Idk what to think, they said Honor Italy confirmed that H8 WONT get oreo update, but just emui instead.....

http://www.optimaitalia.com/blog/20...ento-oreo-parla-la-divisione-italiana/1073993

Personally, i always tought that EMUI 8 = Androidb8 but maybe and i say MAYBE it could be different this time. However a new skin is useless for me
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] agraceful:
Stop. Huawei has already officially said it's Oreo. Idgaf what any other morons say. The literal president confirmed it already.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Giuskiller:
First, you should learn to reply in a respectful way to other people. Second, i'm JUST sharing a news that came out yesterday i guess, to let other know about how the "novel" goes on again. I have all the rights to do this because i'm on a FORUM. You can have your toughts about this but if you're talking with others (not me, everyone else) you should moderate yourself. I'm sorry i have to tell you this.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] BigD18t:
It's ironic considering the username, but some just don't know how to reply respectfully unfortunately.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] agraceful:
LMFAO. I could care less about "replying in a respectful way". The honor 8 has had its answer from the horse's mouth already so all your doing is spouting nonsense. Next time stop being an instigator of the bs. But, since you can't seem to read correctly, I simply told you to stop. No insults, nothing. You're not entitled to respect, you earn it. And you sure haven't warned anything but a dunce hat today.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Giuskiller:
Damn, me an instigstigator? Ahahah, well...since i'm here on xda i never had trouble with other people and i WONT begin now. You can think what you want about me, my posts and everything else, i can live with this. I don't need to be rude to let you know that i will just ignore you from now on. This community is going worse day by day
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Tel864:
Android Authority's Oreo Update article out yesterday listed the Honor 8 Pro but not the Honor 8 in the update list. I still have my doubts about Oreo since we have not seen crap from "the horses mouth" about Oreo.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] BigD18t:
And if you ask any of their official accounts the silence is deafening lol.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] flip360:
Learn to speak English.

Yes, an update is coming and imagine, its Android 8, boi.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] seanchong:
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_release_android_oreo_beta_seven_phones-news-30895.php

Huawei release Oreo beta for Honor 8 in China.

I think we should get long waited Oreo update very soon.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
We just have to wait.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] KoumiCZ:
You have to wait for the official statement!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ayush rao:
The Honor support is NOT a reliable source. Every agent has something different to tell. We will only know in October when EMUI 6 is released.

Also in ur screenshot the global and European variants of the Honor 9 have not been mentioned.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Pranav Kumar:
Got this response from Honor Meetup Delhi
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] palad1n:
My theory is that Honor 8 is not getting an update because Qualcomm.