yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G3 Android Development] dieterschran:
Oh no i didn't. I give it another try later and report back.thx for the quick response!

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So finally I got it to boot ? thanks to the developer for bringing pure Nexus experience to our old device!!!!!!
[G3 Android Development] ThinnerMetalX:
You're welcome ?
[G3 Android Development] ThinnerMetalX:
Guys, I didn't understand if this ROM is still under development or not. There are some bugs that are very boring... I would like to know if the development will go on.

Thanks
[G3 Android Development] dieterschran:
What bug's if i may ask?
[G3 Android Development] ThinnerMetalX:
Phone sometimes randomly reboots. I don't know why
[G3 Android Development] dieterschran:
That's right! happens to me sometimes. But other than that it's a great Rom. Maybe the developer is taking a look at the problem. I hope very much so because i really like this Rom.
[G3 Android Development] ThinnerMetalX:
Who is the developer now? I don't understand very well... Can anyone please tell me if the ROM is under development? And who is the developer?

However, [MENTION=5288911]dieterschran[/MENTION] thank you for your answer ?
[G3 Android Development] dieterschran:
Look at the first Post. There you see who the developer is:good:
[G3 Android Development] kesleybenedet:
Download link is off. Can you give us another link, please?
[G3 Android Development] ianthemojo:
Can someone provide a mirror link to the ROM please?
[G3 Android Development] rahimali:
Missing Download Link

Anybody got a mirror for this ROM? Please feel free to share privately if you do not wish to share publicly. Thanks a lot!
[G3 Android Development] timotej011:
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Link seems to be dead
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] anl2304:
I must be the only person reading that Twitter quote as buyers having the option of purchasing either 1) from tmobile to get 600mhz support or 2) from lg to get the unlocked phone ( but no 600mhz support). This from the sentence structure. I hope I am wrong.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septfox:
I'm glad I'm not the only one who read it like this, thought I was just being paranoid :v

I did send them a tweet myself, but because I'm an idiot and tired, I didn't word it so that the "yes" replay was explicitly for the unlocked variant.

https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/907867685613998081

Someone else tweet'em, ask if the unlocked, non-carrier variant will have 600mhz support without having to mess with it. Just that, don't mention the T-Mobile variant at all. I'm going to bed : |
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Still, this seemingly twice via Twitter they've stated/implied the unlocked carrier version of the LG V30 will also have 600 MHz LTE band 71. IF they are NOT saying that, it's very misleading. Yeah, I also parsed the original tweet, but decided it made more sense to take it at face value... Why would you have a carrier unlocked phone if it didn't have all the carrier bands? I may be wrong, and if so, I'll be the first to update the the first post.

NOTE: Please, NO ONE quote any online or phone T-mobile customer service reps. Those people don't really know about stuff like this. Yes, even at the "highest levels". And I mean that in the nicest way. [emoji14] I don't know how many times I have seen transcripts posted here on XDA "proving" something from from various customer service "chats" (escalated to the "highest level") -- which of course were totally wrong.

One example specifically was Samsung online customer service reps saying the Galaxy S8/S8+ Snapdragon U.S. "carrier unlocked" version would also have bootloader unlock?

We KNEW that was wrong, even before the phone was released.

"But I have the transcripts!" Doesn't prove a thing.

At least Twitter posts from company account are considered official company statements. And I happily accept those as proof. Even the president of T-mobile re-tweets the company's Twitter posts.

https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/907867685613998081

If anyone wants to have another crack at pinning down the language, please do so. But again, only from trusted sources! Please, NO online carrier customer service reps!

From another thread, where we're discussing the same topic:

I have no explanation for the FCC findings unless there's going to be a "revised" submission or something before the US998 model is officially announced.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] spocko:
Other related questions are whether the unlocked V30 will support volte and/or wifi calling.

Based on the info in this link, it appears that unlocked LG devices do not have a good track record of supporting these features. I hope that changes with the V30.

http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septfox:
Copying this over here:

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I read somewhere earlier that someone successfully used VoLTE on Verizon using an unlocked g6, no screwing around needed. No wifi calling, though.

The g6 is probably the closest thing to an actual predecessor for the v30, and as far as I've seen Verizon sets the bar highest for "how much of a pain in the ass do we want to make it for non-native-variant phones to use our features". So I would expect carrier-agnostic VoLTE/HD Voice/etc at the least, and extras like wifi calling requiring some custom tweaking to get working.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhill110:
At this point in smartphone history, the V30 (i.e. US Unlocked) not having wifi calling would be epically stupid. I find it hard to fathom LG would not include wifi calling on this device but then again some of these companies have a history of omitting "no-brainers" .

I'm not fond of 18:9 but will accept it. If on top of that LG leaves out wifi calling it would give me pause...

I'm with mintsim (tmo) so 600 mhz is great but wouldn't a deal breaker.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] iworthin:
I really hope this is wrong but...

This is what they said to me.

T-Mobile Help‏Verified account [MENTION=259357]Tmobile[/MENTION]Help 18m18 minutes ago

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Replying to [MENTION=5224087]lovetech[/MENTION]Media1

Great question! You would need to purchase the T-Mobile LG V30 when it comes out in order to take advantage of our Band 71. *RickK

I am a new user so I cannot link directly to this but feel free to look it up. Maybe RickK doesn't know what he is talking about, right??
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septfox:
The problem is, wifi calling requires support from the carrier end, probably their special app, and maybe even some special RIL and framework stuff depending on the carrier. You're on a phone that you went out of your way to not buy from them, so they're not exactly inclined to provide any of that for inclusion in the OEM's ROM.

And that's the impression I get of using unlocked phones here in the US: technically you can go to any carrier you want, but getting features beyond voice and data working pretty much depends on whether or not they decided to make things easy and use AOSP implementations (like what looks to be the case with VoLTE), or an enterprising dev manages to spackle something workable together.

... or maybe I'm full of crap, who knows. I'm on Tracfone, MVNOs don't get all this fancy stuff :v

https://twitter.com/LoveTechMedia1/status/908560025165086720

Considering the ambiguity of the other tweets, and the FCC entry lacking b71, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he were right.

Sure would be great if LG would respond on Twitter. I know it's an unreleased product, but come on. I really don't see the issue with providing potential customers a bit of basic information that could make or break their decision to purchase said product.

Pointing out again that, regardless of official support, it's not terribly unlikely that the hardware is the same, making enabling b71 manually a possibility. We should get one of the review unit people to try screwing with service menu settings, to start.

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(double post because editing isn't working right)

Can't sleep, going at this again.

Between canned responses and conflicting tweets, I'm getting the impression that T-mobile doesn't actually have the information.

https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/908608113124577281
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septfox:
Finally. As I suspected, T-Mobile (or at least, their Twitter team) doesn't actually know.

And it makes sense that they wouldn't; T-Mobile quite frankly doesn't need to know anything about the unlocked variant, and it's not as if LG is particularly keen on volunteering information at the moment.

They're concerned about their own variant having support, and rightfully so considering it's the first and currently only phone that does (on a somewhat related note: FCC filing says that the Pixel XL2 doesn't have it).

If it's not already in the works, I would expect LG to file a C2PC after people start complaining that their unlocked phone has an incomplete set of important bands, and failing that...aforementioned other options.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I told you we would laugh at any online support rep transcripts. ;) The NEVER know stuff like this or give completely the wrong answer.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Thank you, that's actually more helpful that the silly online customer support reps who give wrong answers. The company Twitter team statements are considered official, in that the T-mobile president often retweets them for new features/plans, etc. Which is why the first two tweets were NEWS, that seemingly LTE band 71 (600 MHz) would also be included in the "carrier unlocked" version of the LG V30.

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UPDATE: after two separate tweets from the U.S. T-mobile company official Twitter account stating (or implying) that LTE band 71 (600 MHz) would also be included in the "carrier unlocked" version of the LG V30, now the U.S. T-mobile Twitter teams says the don't know.

Since the LTE band 71 has NOT shown up on US998 in FCC documentation, this probably means no. UNLESS:

1) LG submits a revised spec sheet to the FCC, which can be done. It would actually be in T-mobile's best interest for LG to enable that band on the "carrier unlocked" model. While T-mobile would not make money off hardware sales, they would gain additional customers who are considering switching. (Many people want a phone NOW, but need to get their ducks in a row family-wise to switch over to a new carrier.)

2) T-mobile radio can be flashed onto rooted "carrier unlocked" LG V30 US998. All the LG V30 hardware (antennas, etc) should be the same. At least from manufacturing efficiency it should be the same. Then it just depends on the firmware to enable specific bands.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] iworthin:
I'm laughing at you than. Because that's a tweet I shared.

Wow. Very condescending and rude. I am a new member so I couldn't link directly to my tweet and you jumped off one Chazzmatt. You started this whole thread sharing tweets and the end result.... apparently Twitter support reps know as much as online support reps. Do your just wasting everyone's time frankly. So who's laughing now? #deleteyourpost #deleteyouraccount
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Not condescending or rude to reiterate customer support reps statements will not be accepted as proof.

I said that earlier in the thread, and gave proof why. Go read the hyperlink post I gave as one example. And over the years I've seen many more. Customer service reps are notoriously ill informed on technical matters.

Then customer support transcript was posted anyways? If you read the thread, I clearly asked please do not offer something like that as proof. ;)

For me, only T-Mobile or LG official company statement is acceptable, of which company Twitter account is an example.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] iworthin:
Your not reading what I am telling you!!

[/COLOR]"This is also NEWS because no other websites are stating this. And if T-mobile is officially stating this through Twitter -- just like they have officially announced many other things, why wouldn't it be true?" -Chazzmatt

I'm Chazzmatt. When I share TMobile tweets it's big news...when Junior members do it I laugh at them. Seriously, idiot.

Dude. You're right. Your not those things. You're just an idiot. Read my post. I shared a tweet. Which is what you shared. So you are full of it. Do people become senior members around her posting garbage or what?

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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I'm not talking about tweets. If you shared a T-Mobile company tweet, that is legit.

I'm talking about online customer chats.

Which was it?

It was news because in two separate company tweets T-Mobile stated or implied the carrier unlocked version of the LG V30 would have LTE band 71.

Now [MENTION=5521404]Septfox[/MENTION] has pinned them down further and they say (via Twitter) they do not know.

That's where it stands.

If you have a company tweet clearly saying no on this question, then post it. Because your first post sounded very much like online customer support chat or something.

My replies have been detailed and clear on acceptable proof.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] iworthin:
It is a tweet!

Dude, read what other people write. I have only ever shared valid tweets. I am beginning to suspect you have learning difficulties which prevents you from reading correctly. And I am actually going from anger and annoyance to feeling sorry for you and bad about bashing this around your head. But dude! Please just read more carefully. I am honestly baffled by this exchange. Another guy on here even linked directly to my tweet. The article that was posted based on your original response features my twitter exchanges in full color. If you paid attention, you would know this. I may be new to XDAdevelopers but I wasn't born yesterday. :eek: :eek:
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I saw [MENTION=5521404]Septfox[/MENTION] Twitter post, where T-Mobile now says they don't know.

I initially did not see where he posted YOUR Twitter link also. I thought that was still his and since he posted screenshot of his, there was no need to click on it. But I went looking for it and found it.

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Look, we're all here looking for information and trying to help each other. All you had to say was, "it's not customer support transcript". I clearly thought it was, and said so in my post.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Original posts (plural) saying yes or implying it were from "T-Mobile" account while these two latest are from "T-Mobile Help". I KNOW T-Mobile customer service ("Help") has been told to say you have to buy T-Mobile branded phone.

I was hoping "T-Mobile" knew something "T-Mobile Help" did not.

And yes, I hope LG files C2PC with FCC to enable that band on the carrier unlocked version. It would benefit both LG and T-Mobile.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
You're right. But that's just crazy.

http://www.droid-life.com/2017/09/13/lg-made-google-pixel-xl-2-hits-fcc/

Why would LG/Google do that? Leave that off the Pixel XL 2? They don't need T-Mobile "permission" to include that LTE band 71, and LG already has the test data, etc.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] cstark27:
Another one to add to the fire. This time from Neville Ray, T-Mobile's CTO. To me he's just saying they don't know on the Unlocked variant, as already mentioned earlier in this thread. But I trust his word over CSR's (no disrespect in that - he just has way more info on the tech stuff).

https://twitter.com/NevilleRay/status/908886728571723776
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] cstark27:
If they did so, they can do the C2PC at seemingly any point in the lifecycle. Case in point, the Galaxy S8 received a C2PC on July 27 to enable LAA.

In fact, the Sprint V30 also already had a C2PC filed for "Some HW changes (PCB adjustments, Ant Pattern changed)" (I wouldn't speculate this means anything for us because I'm a pessimist and see no reason for them to adjust their HW only for B71, on a Sprint device). But they also filed the same change for the V30A which covers all the other models except the T-Mobile one (H932). Maybe they merely learned something when working on the H932 that they wanted to apply to the others (the H932 is seemingly made later in the process as their test dates would imply). The H932 has not had a C2PC as of today.

One more example for fun is Nokia filing for a C2PC to enable LTE Band 5 on a device (Nokia 2?).
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Septfox:
The more information, the merrier. I do like how he jumped straight to "we can't confirm or deny" rather than dancing around and deflecting like the reps did.

That he doesn't out and say "no" is slightly encouraging, but I guess it might be that his hands are tied as far as saying anything definite (assuming they even know).

I, personally, enjoyed the little bit of panic this caused. It was obvious what they actually meant, from how they chose their words, but the less attentive people took it at face value and promptly entered "sky is falling!" mode :>

Welllll again, consider the following scenario: T-Mobile sees LG spinning up a new phone. They approach them, and LG agrees to make a slightly modified version, one updated with the latest radio and supporting hardware. At face value they certainly appear to be the same phone, but if non-T-Mobile-commissioned ones are based on an older design...

The tweets can be seen as supporting this. "All we know is that the variant we had them make us, has band 71...we don't know if they incorporated the changes into their unlocked model".

Not saying this is the case, 'cause I certainly don't know. It's one of those situations I'd actively encourage people to "hope for the best, prepare for the worst".

I imagine it's like any trade license; it has to be approved before any devices requiring it can be sold.

Whether that includes selling to retailers or not, so they can have stock ready for immediate sale upon the filing going through...who knows.

Alternatively, it may not be limiting what devices can be sold, but instead whether the devices can be legally turned on and used outside of test scenarios. That would allow for field testing with engineering samples and whatnot.

Dunno, really, before now I've never had a reason to pay attention to most of what the FCC does. It'd be an interesting thing to bug them about. I wonder if they have a Twitter account.

Finally, another theory.

Lets assume that what's above is true, that band 71 was a later addition to the design and that the standard model as filed doesn't have it.

They would have to do something with all those old mainboards; they're perfect for carrier models that don't need the band. Hardware is hardware, the only thing that's different is the software loaded up - something they can easily do, being able to factory-program things - and the logo silkscreened onto the inside of the back glass (if applicable).

As you've noted, LG's unlocked phones tend to come with quite the delay, normally due to encourage carrier sales. This time, they can take advantage of the delay: it would be fairly easy for them to convert any already-manufacturered unlocked phones to carrier phones, and use the T-Mobile hardware design to make a run of unlocked phones.

Compared to carrier models, after all, they need a much smaller amount of them. This would explain why there's been no C2PC: it would require a new FCC entry.

Isn't this fun? At this point, I'm much more curious than I am annoyed :silly:
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] trvbone:
Ok guys so I am pretty fricking stoked here!!! According to LG site the model US998 which says it's the US Cellular model is also the Unlocked one is what I would get from US Cellular so does this mean the USC option is the unlocked model that everyone will want???? www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/all-cell-phones

If so I am actually happy to be a USC customer for once?!?!?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
U.S.Cellular is the same model number, yes. But the one they sell will not qualify for bootloader unlock. U.S.Cellular has the "unofficial" carrier unlocked version. ;)

The one U.S.Cellular is selling does not have T-Mobile LTE band 71, according to FCC test results..

LG will hopefully enable that band on the "official"carrier unlocked US998, through an FCC filing amendment. If not, then hopefully it can be enabled after root is quickly achieved after it's placed on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.

If you don't care about Bootloader unlock, the version that US cellular is selling has 128 GB which is fantastic. They're selling both the V30 and V30+.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Scotsman828:
You guys who keep posting the LG V30 US998 as the Unlocked version are wrong. The LG V30 US998 is the US Cellular version. As of now we don't know what the official version # is for the unlocked version because LG still hasn't posted it on their website. One thing that seems odd, is that LG doesn't differentiate the specs on their website across the different carriers. Usually in the specs would list the bands each unit would be using per carrier. None of that is on the V30 specs page. I personally think Qualcomm knew about the Spectrum Sale of 600mhz and planned ahead. I'd wager that all the V30s have the same modem but only the TMO version has the drivers in the modem firmware to make 600mhz work.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Yes, we DO know. It'll be US998 for North America and H930 for Europe.

Yes, the US998 is the same model number as the U.S. Cellular -- but the one from LG directly (and 3rd party retailers) will be eligible for official bootloader unlock. Sold by U.S.Cellular, no not eligible. That's the difference.

LG did the exact same thing for the LG G6. The

U.S. CELLULAR version US997

is the exact same model number as the official carrier unlocked version, US997. But only the official carrier unlocked version is

eligible for official bootloader unlock

.

Also B&H Photo -- one of the retailers for the US997 official carrier unlocked LG G6 -- already has a web page FOR OVER A MONTH touting the upcoming "unlocked" US998 LG V30. Available October 27, they say.

We'll see in a week whether it's actually October 27 or if that if just a placeholder date. But YES, we've long known both the U.S. and Europe official carrier unlocked LG V30 model numbers.

Then sometime after release, the official carrier unlocked US998 LG V30 will be added to the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list. Took 6 weeks for LG to do that with the LG G6 US997.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Scotsman828:
I stand corrected then. Thanks! Will the unlocked model be GSM or CDMA? Or will all the cellular bands be unlocked and usable across both networks?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
The North American model will have GSM/CDMA/HSPA/LTE. It's unlocked to use on all carriers.

The European unlocked model (H930) doesn't have CDMA, and has different LTE bands.

Go here and look at the US998 US CELLULAR is selling. If LG released their North America "official carrier unlocked version" tomorrow, it would have those bands. We're hoping LG files an FCC amendment to add LTE band 71 before release...

The U.S. CELLULAR version is SIM card unlocked, if you pay in full. And they're even selling the V30+ (128GB) model. But it won't be eligible for official bootloader unlock.

LG has been silent on whether they will release LG V30+ (128GB) as the official carrier unlocked version. That would be nice!

https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/

You can see all V30 models and bands there.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pyperkub:
Am I correct in assuming that one would need to buy the Carrier Unlocked version from a retailer, and it would not be eligible for an upgrade via the t-mobile Jump program?