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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] thainess:
After the v30 opting for non removable battery, the removable battery at a flagship level is dead.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zeblade:
Theres a youtube video of someone showing how to replace the battery. I have done what that guy did on many phones. Never had a problem. Very easy.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ReformedAppleFan:
Nope.

I've had Notes since the #2 and am getting the Note 8. In my opinion, it's by far the best phone but from a company that has treated its UK customers with contempt.

Hoping this time next year to see some competition that will mean I don't buy the Note 9...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cpufrost:
Replaceable batteries is a thing of the past.

These are sealed devices essentially.

I like it personally. No more detachable backs!

That was one thing that always stood out when it came to iphone build quality feel vs. android.

The latter always felt cheap and creaky. The Note4 was the exception. It did feel solid for having a removable back.

If there is one gripe I have is the omission of the IR Blaster! Loved that feature.

Now, it would appear the only way that will come back is if Apple brings it to their lineup!

The UV sensor on the Note4 was neat too even if it wasn't very accurate.

I don't expect the (Note 8) to be the jump over the S8+ that the Note 7 was over the S7E. But we'll see. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dodge DeBoulet:
16:9 mode will require you to hold the camera horizontally to get a wide view, which is probably obvious in retrospect but isn't necessarily intuitive for someone that's been taking selfies the conventional way. I think the 1:1 aspect ratio is closer to the "wider" view people are used to than the standard 4:3, which is really 3:4 when using it for a "regular" selfie.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cpufrost:
I have a legitimate gripe about the Note 8 camera. They removed the ability to turn off the shutter sound! Why the F would they do this???
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CtrlZThis:
Totally agree. If anyone finds a way to shut thing off please share!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] GaresTaylan:
What? I have an option in my camera settings at the bottom to turn it off.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cpufrost:
What version do you have? I have the US (snapdragon) unlocked and it's definitely not there!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] murmur70:
I have the option to turn it off as well. I am on the Verizon version.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] pyraxiate:
Tmobile variant here. I have the ability to turn off shutter sounds. Maybe odin the tmobile files if you bought an unlocked version from Samsung?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] BoneXDA:
Can you guys use the telephoto camera in low light? I mean force to use it. I can't make the pro mode use the telephoto lens at all, not during daylight, not during the night. Exynos variant here with Samsung sensors.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] GaresTaylan:
US AT&T variant. Sounds like it’s maybe an issue with the unlocked version?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] chipworkz:
Just another comment on the non removable battery. Back when I jumped to my first phone that had a non removable battery, I too was upset about it and felt it was a move in the wrong direction. But since I have had the Note 5, S7 Edge, Note 7, and just came from the V20, I can say I have no need for a removable battery. Even on my V20 over the year that I have had it, I have NEVER pulled the battery out of it except for now when I needed to remove my SIM and memory. The benefits out way the negatives unless you happen to be someone that is never near a charger of some kind for long periods of time. I think the average person is either setting somewhere or driving in their car during the day that they can throw it on a charger for a bit if needed. I rarely ever need to charge my phones during the day but I do know that there are times when you will need to.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmaak:
Every phone that I've ever had with a removable battery has needed the battery to be replaced at least once. On the S3, I ended up getting an extended battery because the battery life was so terrible. Same with my first smartphone (Evo). I did not use an extended battery on my Note 4, but I did have to replace the battery when it started not holding a charge and dropping from 50% to 10% in just a couple of minutes. This was one of the signs of a battery going bad.

What am I going to do if I need to swap out a bad battery now? Might not be a problem, but my experience tells me otherwise.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] thainess:
The batteries from when the s3 came out and now are very different. I've had my s7 edge since it came out and never a battery issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmaak:
In what way are they very different? I keep seeing posts on the internet about battery technology not changing much over the last x years.

Not trying to argue, just understand.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] PsiPhiDan:
Samsung claims these will retain 95% capacity two years later. Results of investigating their exploding batteries, I believe. So it's different. I'm not sure how! But it's different. ☺️
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] thainess:
Well like no battery engineer I've just read that lithium batteries have gotten better throughout the years. You can't find a high end flagship anymore with a removable battery. So if you want one you're stuck with a v20.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmaak:
Yup. I knew that it was only a matter of time. Everyone's doing it now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NamelessFragger:
They may have gotten better, but lithium-ion cells still degrade from the moment of manufacture. The discharge/recharge process only accelerates the degradation.

At least one of my two Note 4 batteries will brown-out the whole phone if it falls to 20% or so, going into its third year. Usually, it happens by year two, and my Galaxy S3 got so bad into its second year that I could barely make it through a six-hour work shift before the battery plummeted from 100% to 0%, even with most of that time spent screen-off in my pocket!

It's only natural to be skeptical about this bit of planned obsolescence. I'm certainly not happy about it, but I have no choice if I want to keep the Wacom pen functionality, so alas, here's another Note 4 owner jumping to the Note 8, largely forced by network-related reasons (using an N910P on T-Mobile has even worse results than usual lately).

I gotta say, though - this is one slick bit of hardware, and I no longer need a custom kernel to fix the pen jitter I'd usually get at the very beginning of a stroke. If the battery can hold out for three years, I'll be content with this, and the Note 11 or whatever they have at the time might actually feel like a significant upgrade.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tr0LL:
You can say bixby, turn off the shutter sound and that will turn off the sound.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cpufrost:
Wow, wasn't sure if this was serious so I re-enabled bixby and sure enough she says there will no longer be a shutter sound from now on. (or something along those lines).

And yes, the camera is silent.

I wonder what else you can do!

Bixby install TWRP :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] SiNJiN76:
Speaking of bixby...seems my bixby doesn't enable the mic to listen to my voice. Works perfectly fine (the mic) with Google. Is there anything I can do with bixby to fix this?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NamelessFragger:
Okay, found a new gripe: no S Beam support!

This wouldn't be such an issue if Android Beam wasn't so slow by comparison; I think it's because Android Beam uses Bluetooth for the file transfer whereas S Beam uses Wi-Fi Direct, but without the setup kludges involved with Wi-Fi Direct.

I guess that's another thing the Note 4 has over the Note 8 'til I find a workaround.

Seriously, quick file transfers are one of the best things about NFC, and most people don't know about it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] imatts:
If your experience is anything like mine was, the curved screen won't bother you after a couple days, and in fact, you will look back at flat screened phones and kind of wonder why flat screens exist.

I agree, the edges of the phone are silly when using the SPen, but honestly, that's like 2% of your time with the SPen anyway, so it isn't too big of a deal.

I also may have a rare bias towards curved edges because I have never used cases or screen protectors, so I never had to deal with the blocked edges from a case or crappy pealing screen protectors.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TeleFragger:
so first I have to say that I do not have the shutter sound option as well - I'm on sprint

onto the battery gripe. I had that originally as well.. see how..

galaxy s2 - had multiple batteries and extended battery

went to Note 3 and had 2 extra batteries

now.. 2 year contract so Note 4 came out, couldn't switch, note 5 came out and I refused because of the battery... Figured id wait for the Note 6/7... I'm 4 years out of a new phone and Ill be darned if I pass up the note 8 just because of my pet peeve of the battery!!!!

I have an ankler 13000mah portable charger if I need it...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] toenail_flicker:
ditto

---------- Post added at 07:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:25 AM ----------

I'm two years out from a N4, but same thing. guess I'll get an portable charger
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] imatts:
Waiting anxiously for Purolator to drop the beast off. I'm so indecisive right now though.. Do I keep the box sealed and re-sell the phone, microSD, wireless pad and buy the Exynos version and lose warranty? Or is root really that important to me..

I've had root literally since 2011, but lately I haven't done anything with it other than flash Resurrection Remix (been using it for 3 years straight)..

UGH
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] fgr:
I'm on Sprint also and don't have the shutter sound option. Just read somewhere here on XDA that Bixby will turn it off for you. Just say "Bixby, turn off shutter sound"
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Dark Jedi:
People wanted water resistant phones and I'm sure that's one reason the removable battery went away. Hard to seal a compartment that has a removable panel. Will say my HTC one m8 the battery over heated and swelled bulging the case. So both setups has their pros and cons
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] DaHoBO:
Have you tried? :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] parmend:
We have how do you check the RAM management on this device. After the new update I don't see that option anymore
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmaak:
I have three batteries that I can charge from. Got them off of Amazon on sale. Most of the days, my phone will sit on the wireless charger while I'm in the office. I have read that when the phone's on the wireless charger it keeps turning on when it hits 100%. That might annoy me enough to rethink that idea.

Anyone have any idea what it costs for Samsung to change a battery in one of these sealed phones? Is it covered under warranty?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] slaapliedje:
My gripes so far... Smart Switch didn't sync over my data from S-Health (tried twice). Bixby button is annoying (I would rather it become another home button) and I don't really like the lack of a physical home button all that much, I keep hitting the top of the bar instead of the spacebar on the keyboard.

The battery thing... that is my problem.. so two years, 95%? What about three years? What about 4? I mean I just spent over 1k for this and accessories, and it has a pretty definitive life span. Granted some are brave enough to swap the batteries, but still....

Also, I liked the size/shape of the Note 7 better. Yes I have the Note 4 as well, and want N4, N7, N4, N7, N4, N8... so at least I have some extra stylus and USB-C cables.

Oh, one other Gripe, the 2017 GearVR+controller seems really uncomfortable. Like the face padding is rough or something. I have the N4 version and the 2016 one as well and they bother feel more comfortable t than this one.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] fgr:
I did.

Said "Bixby, turn shutter sound on" then took a picture. Shutter sound was there.

Said "Bixby, turn shutter sound off" then took a picture. No shutter sound :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TeleFragger:
sweet.. I didn't try it yet... haven't had time to mess with my phone other than it being a phone.. LOL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gareee:
It looks like some carriers removed some features like that. There was supposed to be an optimise feature in settings, but on verizon thats completely gone.

That said, I watched a test on youtube, and the results were the note 8 didn't choke on ram use until 27 apps and one large game were run.. the s8+ choaked at 8 apps. I don;t think we need to worry about ram anymore.. lol!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] black96ss:
the front camera has a wide angle option when youre in the front camera, I loved my note 4 and miss at times. The removable battery doesn't bother as much anymore the wireless charge is a nice trade off(wireless charge on note was crap). the edge screen takes time getting used to but it grew on me. I came from a s7 edge(had a note 7) and it takes some getting used for me with no physical home button. all in all I am very happy with the device except that I couldn't get deep sea blue.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] onkarsingh_pardeshi:
There is a wide selfie mode... swipe left in the camera app you will see it. It's quite good. image stitching is very good. Just make sure you move the camera slowly while taking a pic
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] slaapliedje:
I actually saw the "portrait mode selfie" as a feature on the new iPhone but not note 8 on a comparison list. Is the wide mode the same?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] twospirits:
I'm also on Sprint and do not have that option to turn it off or on, and I have not used Bixby yet except to turn off the dedicated Bixby button off inits settings and yet, every time I take a pic I have not sound (which is fine by me) but its interesting that some have the camera sound option while others don't.

BTW, while testing this I noticed that I can take a pic using either the volume up or volume down button when taking a landscape mode instead of touching on the white circle in the screen.

TS
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] harveydent:
There's a camera setting where you can use the vol keys to take a picture or to zoom. The default on mine was to take a picture
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
To the folks complaining about battery degradation, what was your previous device and when did you buy it?

Not saying all of us are the same and will fit into this category, but come on? Are you going to keep this phone for more than a year? Really? I for one was never the buy the newest thing guy, but once they started having problems on an alternating release, and as we can see manufacturers apparently switching sides of who bombs(punzz for dayyyyzzzzz) each year, I ended up getting used to switching to a new device every single year.

I'm not saying that all of us are rich or anything like that, but I am willing to bet that a lot of us here on XDA, do not keep these high end devices for more than 1.5 years.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gareee:
I didn't complain, but Note 4, launch day, (I think Sept 29 2014)

And I replaced oem batteries in both my wife and my note 4 3 times, I think....thats one a year.

Built in non replaceable batteries is a big concern of mine....especially for a device with such a high price tag.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
That's why I put the stipulations in my post man. You don't fall into any of the categories I mentioned! I commend you for sticking with a device that long though. I miss the days when I was like that! My wife does too!!! LOL:eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bonerp:
i think its a real shame manufacturers don't listen to customers and haven't continued with replaceable batteries. Simple and more cost effective solution to the note 7 episode.

Also many of the battery booster packs are cheap chinese crap and I wonder how safe they are charging a £900 device....! We all know how explosive batteries can be yet you are happy to charge you device off a cheap potential pocket bomb.

I used to love going out for the day with note 4 knowing I had a couple of spare batteries in my pocket not weighing me down, smug that I could use my phone without worry.

You just can't do that anymore. I can get to the end of a normal day - just, using my note FE. Its not a great user experience lugging around a chunky battery pack or chargers!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alex---1:
I think it's probably because they would have to go back to awful, fake feeling plastic backs so you have a removable back panel, IP68 sealing wouldn't be as good either.

With the rest of the product being premium polished glass, that's going to look and feel pretty crap. Also, these newer Li-Po batteries are meant to degrade 5% over 2 years, as apposed to the 20% over 2 years that previous cells were.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bonerp:
Replace the stupid bixby button with a back remover button! Or a battery eject button.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ryland Johnson:
I think Samsung do listen to customers. Problem is trying to find a balanced mobile that fits the requirement's of multi millions of customers. Simply can't be done in reality can it? I strongly prefer the high water resistance rating and my mobile be made and assembled with quality materials that feel nice and look nice to the possible loss of some or all of that for a battery replacement system? I disagree all portable battery packs are "chunky". I also think with fast charging etc, that until battery technology advances, Samsung is doing its best to address such weaknesses?

When I think of the staggering advances made in such a very short time it amazes me! I mean in just 5 or 6 years and the birth of the real 'smartphone' . I strongly feel battery technology is the one area that has lagged behind and not kept progress with what today's mega beasts require.

It also makes me smile when we spend 1,000€ on a device only to dumb it down, to the level of a 100€ mobile, with software to ensure we can use it? Think about it, so absurd! :eek:

So many companies have gone out of business because they didn't listen to their client base, Nokia and Blackberry spring to mind. I don't think we can say the same about Samsung? In so many technological areas they have lead the field (not going to mention speakers lol).

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Exactly , Samsung should have given it's customers a reassurance by perhaps implementing at min 2 year warranty.

12 months for a so called premium product warranty wise is absurd. But at least in the UK should **** hit the fan in month 13 or 14 warranty will still be honored.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gareee:
For a 1000 phone, the battery should have a 5 year warranty... Unless they don't believe the technology is sound.

For something cheaper, a shorter warranty makes sense, but not for expensive top of the line flagships.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] douger1957:
I think they have listened to customers. Too many have ruined a phone by dropping it in water.

I put my phone on charge before going to bed. I wake up with a fully charged phone which for the last four or five phones will get me through till I get ready to go to bed and do it all over. The only phone I've ever had for longer than 18 months was the Note 4, because I wouldn't give up having a SD card. I did have to replace the battery because it was getting harder to make it through the day. Rooting it and using custom ROMs may have had something to do with the battery life.

This will probably get all but the most hard core people through a day. I'd much rather carry this in my pocket than a loose battery that keys or coins could short the terminals out.

Lithium battery technology is better than it was just a few years ago. But what's really better is the smart charging circuits built into the phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Will slow charging help with cell longetivity?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] PsiPhiDan:
They are definitely listening. See their insane sales - that's the loudest one can speak to a company. People want thin, sexy phones that are waterproof. The average user absolutely does not care about removable battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] douger1957:
^^This^^

Unless you're dealing with something that's super niche, all products are a compromise. They need to appeal to the widest customer base possible. Why doesn't the front facing camera work the same in the Note 8 as it did on the Note 4? Probably compromises. Perhaps the camera needed to be smaller to fit another feature in.

There are people on XDA, for example, that will cry rivers of tears because the Note 8 will probably be difficult to root. Ya know what? The actual number of people who want to root their phone is a minuscule part of Samsung's customer base. A high end phone like this is highly desirable in the corporate and government arena. Most places won't add a rooted phone to their networks for obvious reasons. That's another compromise. Something else... most of what people needed to root their phones for can be achieved without doing that and will work better in the long run. I rooted my Note 7... and had all of the self inflicted issues that I've always had with custom ROMs, and I always clean installed and reinstalled apps from the Play Store rather than backups, just as any developer would recommend. I didn't root the V20 and guess what? No random reboots or bootloops or any of the other issues that you get when you're using custom ROMs. It just worked. One group of people I have zero tolerance of are those who plunked a grand down on a phone knowing that rooting it would be a hit or miss proposition, then start whining because they can't live their lives without Viper or some other benefit of rooting.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] RaymondPJR:
I think Samsung has not yet achieved the goal of a phone that can go a full day without charging by putting in such a small battery. I am grateful for the software/hardware advances that make putting a smaller battery in this phone feasible, however. I'd be totally happy to feel confident I can make it through a day of moderate use without having to plug in. Too early to tell if I can do that with this device.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] oohyeah:
Use the "wide selfie" mode - it's brilliant.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] iteam:
How to use "wide Selfie mode"

https://publish.samsungsimulator.co...camera_and_video/take_a_selfie_or_wide_selfie
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] txaggies07:
Not sure if anyone else responded since I am a few pages back on the thread.

Tell Bixby to turn the camera shutter sound off and it should work.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Anyone told bixby to unlock the bootloader? LOL