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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] shredrex:
Hi all. Forgot I even had an account to here....was browsing for info on the V30 Oreo update and came across this thread. Read it front to back...lol

I guess from what I have read here the V30 I have from Rogers (Ontario) is in fact unlocked. Sadly Rogers couldn't even confirm that....unreal. Coming from my various Nexus and Pixel devices that mean updates came direct from the mother ship Google. But it appears just being carrier unlocked means updates are still carrier specific and not subsequently coming from LG directly?

Rogers has no I go on the timeline for Oreo, heck their OS upgrade schedule didn't even show the V30 until just recently. One rep there told me to refer to their list for info....which I then advised her would be a great idea if my phone was actually listed. A few day later they got around to adding it showing the 10h update pending.

Hopefully this thread will be a good source of I go on the pending update.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Updates are issud from LG by model number. It isn't a secret that LG Canada and devices for the Canadian market do not receive anything close to the same level of support that US and other market devices do. On occasion, there might be an update released from LG that is more carrier specific but that will still only apply to the model number that carrier has and use your SIM to determine if you should receive that update or not.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
No root is brutal especially when every phone you've ever had has been rooted. More annoyingly the general answer around here is buy the 998 but that's only sold in the USA. I likely would have bought a 998 outright in Canada if it was available for a reasonable price (same as the 933)

Not allowing me to do what I want with my phone is a piss off. Sure the need to have root is a bit lower then it was (had to get rid of touchwiz as fast as I could on my old samsungs) but it still is restricting the most important part of Android, allowing it to be infinitely customizable.

I can understand preventing non experienced users from easily rooting due to some OEMs worry about warranty and such. Which I still think is rediculous. But making it completely impossible is dumb. If it required you to at least read step by step instructions and follow a process so only people that can follow and understand instructions could do it, I would happier with that.

Silver lining, compared to the pixel I'm glad I have the wide angle camera that the v30 have. Stock camera app manual controls and the Google camera app port has made for some really awesome pictures.

google camera with HDR on wide angle

Wide camera with stock app

Narrow/normal phone camera with stock app shows how much of the image you miss without the wide angle the V30 has.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
B&H photo won't ship you one?

With the LG rebate my three V30 and V30+ averaged less than $650 each.

Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Actually, B&H Photo does ship to Canada and offers free shipping to Canada on orders over $99USD.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
Shipping to Canada isn't the same as being able to buy within your own country for obvious reasons but more importantly the exchange rate makes it too expensive. After writing that I looked at B&H, they must have dropped the price a lot, last time (when it was pre-sale and had already bought my 933) I check by the time I got it here it would cost a lot more

If LG's response to no unlocked boot loader is buy the device that has an unlocked boot loader at least make it available for purchase in each country.

Any phone is available anywhere to some degree is available to be shipped to anywhere else but that's not really what I consider available.

Case in point this is actually my second LG, first one was exchanged due to reception problems. That would have been exciting to do with B&H.

You still have to pay more for the privilege of unlocked bootloader as carrier subsidies generally make a phone cheaper. I think last time I worked it out (when the B&H price was higher) it would cost me $300 for the 998 vs the 933. So its still not really the same price.

Also BTW turns out its not free shipping if you add it to cart there is $9.20 shipping. And of course duty and tax, which is to be expected, of $88.75. So about the same as a 933 retail price, meaning do sale or discounts.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
What is $650 US dollars converted to Canadian dollars?

Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Yeah but it depends whats important to you, unlocked or save a little money.

Easy choice for me, i always buy international so i can do what i want with my phone.

It makes no sense to complain about the problem when its easy to resolve. If i chose to buy a device I know is locked its on me and me alone.

At the least buy the crappy locked version at a discount on a plan then sell it and buy unlocked. There's always a way but it seems everyone ( not just here in this forum of course) would rather complain than do something about it lol

sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
Buying 3 at the exact time of the rebate isn't realistic obviously for most people. Its not readily available at that cost, also see my edit above.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
The poor exchange rate is thanks to the price of Liberal Socialism. Like it or not, Canada still has basically 2 more years of a low Canadian dollar.

You could check Pacific Mall if you happen to be in the Greater Toronto Area. I can understand why LG didn't release the US998 in Canada because it is very similar to the H933 outside of the bootloader being locked.

The V30 at $675 USD is about $865CDN. What adds to that though is the taxes and duties on importing things, as Canada is very anti-importation of goods.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I didn't buy three the same time. I bought two (V30/V30+) to get the rebate, and because my wife and I need phones

Then a friend sold me her extra V30 phone at $600 rebate price. She limit wanted one phone and realized SOMEONE would buy the other for $600. Turns out it was me.

Point is I paid $650 each average, and anyone else could have too.

Like my friend...

My friend bought two to get the rebate, thrn sold me one. She then paid $600 for hers when you factor in the rebate.

[B,]What's $600 US converted to Canadian? That's how much she paid for one phone. [/b]

Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+

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I usually buy out of the country too, to get unlocked, rootable phones. Just this time I didn't have to.

Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
LG makes their phones overseas, more than likely in South Korea and China. I don't blame you for not being very trusting of the warranties offered at Pacific Mall. I have seen some very unhappy customers there before that have kept me away from buying devices there. The US998 non-carrier model sold by B&H is somewhat of a combination that will work on all US carriers. It has the CDMA radio firmware working, it has the GSM radio firmware working, and has most of the US band support for all US carriers. What it is missing is T-Mobile's band 71 600MHz spectrum. That is probably something that can be enabled through root.

I wasn't trying to start a political debate either. It was just a statement. Canada actually doesn't allow free trade. Canada does not allow the sale of things, like milk as an example, because Canadian dairy farmers would not be able to compete. The same applies for many other goods. Encouraging businesses to keep jobs in their own countries isn't a bad thing in my opinion, regardless of which side of the border I am on.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Then you need read what I actually wrote. You seem focused on three for some reason. My friend bought two and sold one. She only kept one.

I only mentioned I bought three, to show someone could even buy that many and STILL get a good deal. One or two or even three.

THAT is the point. She only paid $600 for hers, when she sold the extra for $600 didn't need.

600 600 600 600 600

She bought two to get the $400 rebate, just like I did. But she didn't need two. She knew she could sell the other brand new still in box V30 for at least $600...

Tell me you understand. ;)

You only needed to buy two, get the rebate, sell one for $600 (or more).

Then YOUR phone would cost $600 or less.

Now the stuff about import taxes, I don't know. I also don't know of the rebate was limited to U.S. addresses or not. If so, then never mind.

Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
Yeah I realize after I wrote that it was only two, but for some reason you've brought up 3. Either way the point was the same.

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Ah ok so there is a least more reason to get a 998 in the USA due to more freedom to move between carriers due to the firmware.

That makes more sense in the USA then. Assuming that's how the USA carries keep users? Their phones only work on certain networks?

So in Canada our phones are sim unlocked and support all or our carriers due to the firmware. Therefore the 933 and the 998 are similar.

I could then see why LG would lock the bootloader so it would stop people from flashing firmware to move to a different carrier.

Not much reason to lock the bootloader in Canada then. Even more so if the 933 is so similar to the 998
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] karendar:
https://twitter.com/LGCanada/status/958794757156888576

Oreo release in MARCH..... :/
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
By then, Google will be teasing us with hints for Android P.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mad Medik:
Wow, they responded... I have yet to receive a response from them.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eddie_Brock:
Are there ear buds or any other accessories in the box on the Canadian models?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Those only come with V30+ models, at least outside Asia.

Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
You get the usual USB to USB-C cord, power adapter, and SIM eject tool. As stated, the earbuds only come with V30+ models, which were not offered by carriers in Canada.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Negan:
Yeah I was a bit disappointed that there were no freebies. The V20 came with b&o headphones and my g6 came with a sound bar and subwoofer.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
Been rocking 8.1 for about two months ;)

My buddy has had much better luck with his v30 since the reception was fixed.

Was reading about the new updated v30 with the camera ai LG is working on. Will. Be interesting to see if it actually helps the already excellent camera on the V30.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Yeah. The Lens though.... That is one of the things that interests me a lot about the Huawei Mate 10 Pro. The V30 has it all for camera settings manually but on auto, it's just not that great. A dedicated processor to interpret the information from the camera to not only know what you are taking a picture of, but to set the camera up for that shot for you, if you want it to, isn't a bad thing. On manual, you can take some amazing shots with the V30's camera setup but putting those amazing shots into the hands of the most novice will make it more appealing to everyone.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
The Mate 10 Pro looks insane on the hardware side. Has everything and looks good. It might have been my first choice if it were available. I love IR blasters too.

Wish the pixel had a manual mode. Can't have it all (but the mate 10 pro almost does).
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Amazon.com has the US/North American model up for pre-order. You get $150 USD Amazon gift card when pre-ordering so that helps a lot with the $800 USD price. $150 is a nice bonus, especially considering that bonus makes it a much better value than the V30 and V30+.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
That is a good deal. I'm all in now though for this year :) Next December I get to try a new phone.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Maybe we will get lucky and Huawei will buy LG's failure to turn a profit mobile division and give us something even more spectacular for the fall flagship season. One of my only complaints with the look of the Mate 10 Pro is the branding on the front. I can't stand that! If a device comes out with the V30 look but the insides of the P20 with the triple cameras, I'd be sold in a heartbeat! Being an unlocked device, I doubt it will have band 71. There is no list of supported bands but considering it was originally going to be available through AT&T, it should be a GSM compatible device that should have all of AT&T's LTE bands.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
I keep wondering why the major manufacturers don't try the kitchen sink approach to a major flagship, using tried and true features. The V30 was close to it, with maybe an IR blaster missing. Some would say a removable battery but not sure sure ingress protection could be sustained... I think that's a sensible trade off.

But the lack of IR is one that irks me a bit... With the push to an interconnected home having that feature available plugs some gaps in the smart home setup.

With all the complaints about LG's screen on the V30 I applaud the attempt and refining they are doing. The screens will only get better and I hope they don't jump on the edge screen foolishness Samsung did.

Would be amazing if LG did an Android One version of the V30 or similar. Fast updates are a lot of fun. With the pixel I have felt that the 5th of the month (when updates are released) are almost like a mini Xmas morning for this geek. I still look longingly at the V30 but not sure I could go back. Maybe when LG releases some project treble phones things will change.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
No Qi wireless charging, no sale.

Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
Qi charging was important to me when I was using the Samsung phones that had it. I have 3 wireless chargers (two are fast chargers) and I have two wireless fast charger mounts installed in my cars too. The battery life was good enough on the V30 when I had it (as well as the 2XL now) that I never used them (especially in the car as I found that the V30 heated up too much for my liking with the charging and GPS/Maps/Waze) going at the same time.

But yes, I can see that as being a turn-off for folks. It used to be on my must list too (just as a removable battery and SD card slot used to be for me). The improved ingress protection has made the removable battery less important for me, and as long as I have a 128GB device I don't need the SD card slot (but still believe that it should be a standard feature).
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Right. IP68/68 protection is more important than removable battery. Since owning many Android phones since 2010, I've never swapped out a battery -- even in phones where I could. Never.

(Whereas my wife and I have used Qi wireless charging daily since 2013, first with our LG Nexus 5 and then our Moto XT1225. Now even Apple offers it on all three of their 2017 iPhones.)

And designing frame for removable battery means probably smaller battery or larger phone for the extra room needed to safely eject or put in the battery. You need a dedicated space for that, a special easy access enclosure.

Then you have to make enclosure all dust proof/waterproof, while still providing electrical connectors from battery to the other electronic components. A nightmare.

My battery lasts about all day, and I have QuickCharge plugs/cords in car and at work.

Maybe removable battery has some advantage I'm not seeing -- but I've never understood the strident demands for it from others.

It's like demanding the return of the 80's mullet haircut. ;) ("Business in the front and party in the back!") In premium top tier phones, removable battery has gone the way of the mullet. IP68 is much better feature. ;)

Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
Like most things it's a usage scenario for the particular user. I have traveled a lot where I have relied on my phone for pictures, maps, restaurant reviews, etc. In a 12 hour day out sightseeing in areas that my phone is not optimized for, Being able to pop a new battery in quickly is very useful in those situations. Using a battery pack to charge is more bulky than a spare battery and is much slower, even with a fast battery pack.

I have adapted, and I don't travel as much as I used to. I do make sure that my device has easy access to the fastest chargers for it at home, in my car and at work. The quick top ups on the V30 and 2xl made both the removable battery and the wireless charger not as important for me in my usage scenarios as I routinely go to bed with 60% left on a normal to heavy day of use with only a quick top up. This summer will be a real test for the 2xl when we hit the road more often though.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Wireless charging was so Nexus 6 for me. I get why people want it but it isn't a deal breaker for me. I do hope LG does improve the screens. The V30's screen is nice when you get a decent one. When you don't though, it looks like the worst of something off a reject line. I prefer an IR blaster as well but I don't consider it a deal breaker. There are some great remote apps in the Play Store that allow you to set presets for. I used to have one set for the factory calibration menu on my TV quite a long time ago. Although not a deal breaker, I would prefer it over not having it, unlike wireless charging that I don't care one way or the other.

The removable battery is a bit of a different thing though. IP68, at least for me, is more important than swapping batteries. I don't find my V30+ needs to be charged multiple times in one day. As long as the battery can get me through a day, I don't care if the battery is removable or not. I have had a phone die on me though when getting caught in a downpour when I was on a call. I would rather not have that happen again. A larger battery on the V30 or future model wouldn't be a bad thing though. Using the quad-DAC can increase battery drain a lot. A stereo speaker setup wouldn't be bad either.

A better front-facing camera I would prefer. I don't take selfies but it would improve things like facial unlock, which I also don't really use. The AI processor I am all for though. The V30's camera is very versatile with all of the manual settings and such but the auto isn't as good as it could be. If I am standing around and have time to set things the way I want them, then you can get some stunning shots with the V30, especially that wide-angle lens. If I could get the same out of something completely random shots though, like action shots that aren't staged, would be awesome. That is where I think the AI processor would be a great addition in future devices.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Qi wireless charging was the "line in the sand" for me. After having it my last two phones, and using it daily since 2013, I wasn't going to give that up.

No, I don't NEED it, but it's very convenient and to me is a feature on a "premium phone". Apple has even added it on ALL their new phones. Samsung never dropped that feature, Motorola lets you add it back on their "premium" phones for more money (stupid mods), and LG has now wisely added it back after dropping it after the LG G4. One of the major budget Chinese brands (Xicomi) is even adding Qi wireless charging -- probably since Apple has.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi-Mi-7-to-support-Qi-wireless-charging.275992.0.html

If LG hadn't added it back, they were probably going to force me to buy an Exynos Samsung Galaxy S9 -- even though I don't like Samsung.

Agreed on possible improvements. My last phone (Moto XT1225) has a 3900 mAh battery on a smaller frame than the V30. The V30 could be 1mm or 2mm thicker and no one would care -- if it has an even bigger battery. 3500 or even 4000 mAh? Battery life has been very good for me, but put a slightly bigger battery in and it only makes it better. ;)

Sure, front facing stereo speakers. PLEASE.

Better selfie camera, mostly just to shut everyone up about the bad selfie camera. [emoji14]
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mad Medik:
Hey folks,

There is a thread discussing the security patch updates for all variants but I'm wondering if any Canadian variants have received an update?

See details in the screen cap. I'm with FM and waiting for an update...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I have an H933 for a few days that I ran out to Pickering for yesterday Minor screen issues aside, the LTE-CA hidden menu has an interesting setting. When entering that menu, I saw two two aggregation options. Band 2/band 17 and band 4/band 17. It had my Canadian Telus SIM in the device but band 17 isn't available here in Tonornto on any network. There was a third option, all bands, which I did select. It required a restart of the device and while booting, there was an unlocked lock on the screen for about 20 seconds with a blue circle going around it. Once loaded, my LTE bars improved a little, from one bar to two with a slight improvement on the db. It does drop down to H more often when HD Voice (VoLTE) is in use but HSPA results in full bars with a stronger signal when LTE reaches one bar or above -110db. Compared to my H932 though from T-Mobile which I forced on to Telus for a comparison. The db difference is significant.

The H932 is running 93210d while the H933 is running 93310h. After watching both and walking around testing in different rooms and in an elevator, the H932 is consistently stronger for signal strength. -87 to -94db versus -108 to -118db. Both were on band 2 at the time and both tested with the SIM's swapped around. LG's radio software could definitely use some tweaking for the H933.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] mikeidda95:
Nope same here still on the November patch. We are wayy behind.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Yeah. Even though the H933 is on 93310h, that is still only November. The H933's probably won't receive another update until the Oreo update hits, which is supposed to be early in March.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mad Medik:
I will be curious to see if any Canadian Networks are faster than others. There has been nothing from Freedom Mobile.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I doubt it. Canada only has one model for all of the carriers. Once LG releases the update, it should hit them all at the same time. Manufactures though someones roll updates out a wave of a particular model though. The V30 isn't selling well in Canada so the low sales more than likely won't require updates to come in waves.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jeanluc1701@hotmail.com:
Nothing since December
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] K.T.Mitri:
C.R.T.C/ all canadian phones recieve unlock.

Wasnt sure if anyone was aware but as of febuary first 2018 all canadian carriers must provide sim unlock if requested by costomer. Iphone is more difficult, but who cares? They suck anyways.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eddie_Brock:
Can you explain how you got to this hidden menu?

I've tried some different hidden menus from different places online and few few actually worked.