yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] weaselcossey:
I'm pretty sure Oli just took the weekend off. Who's to blame him, it is the weekend.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] beginner:
Hi Pawel

I think you are doing a really good job and I appreciate for a long time with the athena and other devices you have shared. I see this time you are doing really a large ahead step, involving other people to have the final rom+unlocker+whatever finished, and times that is complex. Really this is not your job (I mean you don't obtain the money for your maintenance from here) and that is the explanation on what is happening.

Maybe you have other more important things to do in your life at this moment that provide us with software. How many people in the forum provide software? me not. I only test things and provide ideas and ask for problems solutions, we are in other lower level.

thanks pawel and take it easy.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] weaselcossey:
Not only is this a bad idea, but no one is gonna walk anybody through the whole process. It would be a disater. Everyone would want to do it, at least 90% would screw it up, then everyone would be mad at the AP team for not providing a simple unlocker at the tie of the rom release. That's why we're waiting on Olipro. I bet we will wait more if everyone jumps down his throat when he signs on.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
Olipro is great.he is expert in PDA unlocking,but because of him we are waiting here.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] dj_gabzz:
better wait for a good unlucker.. one that is cooked and unrushed in the process.. otherwise a bad unlocker will cause your device to brick.. so i would say this thing is important.. one simple unlocker for us rookies and thats all we need idiot proof method that will be released as soon as olipro gets the chance.. i doubt it will happen this weekend , maybe during the week . the way i see it now, there is no news from the UK and i guess it will remain like that on sunday :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
Thats true.we have to wait
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] boinger66:
I'll say this ... if we release the "expert" unlocker method ... about 80-90% of people will prob end up bricking their devices

so just wait ... whats some more time ?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
More agony! And I still believe people should be able to follow instructions. Maybe I'm wrong.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
its not following instructions its just luck. the older methods were hit or miss. if conditions were perfect it would all work but 80% of the time they werent and u would brick. thats why raskell's athena is bricked and mine has a really messed up model id and wlan doesnt work.

also i dont have the files on my laptop anymore. my hd is a small 80GB on it and im saving up for a high end laptop so not going to get anything bigger soon. the methods were complicated anyway and u were bound to mess up ur device in some way unless u were extremely lucky.

dont get olipro. it aint completely his fault everyone. i will explain more when we release the rom or when he decides to come on.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rdosti:
i wonder if oli had a fight or argument with someone ..and felt depressed or pissed so he decided hed do it when he felt like...wonder if theres any truth in that..its a gut feeling...something went wrong or was said wrong....hopefully my guts wrong...

Anyhow..just curious...is Oli the only guy from the millions of visitors n thousands of users over here that can do this.....?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Please be patient ROM is coming.

Please be patient explanation is coming.

Guys you do great work! Got PK 3.0 running so I know that as a fact. I could finish my thoughts here but let's leave it for what it is.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] alizwiniy:
mr

Pawel062

can you give me the new htc home for vga in ap4.0 rom pls

i think its not need unlocker
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
I may have a low post count but I have been around for longer than I have been registered just lurking and I can say that Oli has been behind more unlocker projects for more devices than I can easily remember. I have had many a device that could be flashed thanks to an Oli component.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] auswims:
ditto to everything You said. If there were more people who could do the work, many more unlocker programs would be available. Patience is a virtue.........
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] the_shamen:
Waiting for this ROM is like waiting for my new Shift, frustrating but it will be worth it. Really looking forward to upgrading, hope there is enough in the AP fund for you cook's to relax with a beer at the end :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
Olipro was here at 08:52 AM.I dont understand:D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
i don't understand either considering that the orignal option put forth by pawel was to have comnex finish up the unlocker. but she is not doing it either sooooo im not sure but my guess is something fishie is up ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Knopfgesicht:
*buzzing The X-Files music*
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
pawel - a) we know you worked your butt off and we appreciate everything you've done. We are certainly looking forward to AP4!

b) You say not to blame Oli? If you say it's not his fault then I, for one, will believe you. But we all know what a cantankerous sod he can be ;)

c) Someone asked if Oli was the only person who could do this - the answer is yes!

d) a few people have said how oli has made unlockers for lots of phones - they are right - as I've said before - the guy is a genius and we all owe him a lot - if he's ever 'round my neck of the woods I'd certainly buy him a pint.

e) We love your work which is why we are impatient - but we will wait. Don't beat yourself up. We do appreciate your work.

f) I'm off to Belgium on Tuesday and really hoped to have AP4.0 this w/e to have everything ready for then - I should have mentioned this earlier then I'm sure you would have released this for me ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
@ Pawel062

Why is it that you and Olipro whern't on the same page? Could have saved lots of people lots of agony.

Mabury
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
ok everyone needs to stop looking in the past, why didn't pawel do this or why olipro didn't do that. the fact is that is in the past the only thing i am concerned with not is if olipro is going to go rouge and not make the unlocker at all. if we all think about it there is nothing anyone can do not even pawel. not to mention we already have wm6.1, i realize that pawel's would be better but wm6.1 is better than nothing. So my only question, which no one can answer except olipro or comnex, is the unlocker going to be done sometime this week?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Got from irc #xda-devs that Olipro will be back on Monday. So I guess all attempts are in vain.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
where do you go for irc #xda-devs
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Program used: XChat

Network used: FreeNode

Channel used: #xda-devs
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] gloom:
So it's sure, we won't get it before tuesday if things go well. We need to give time to pawel and oli to put everything togheter, maybe do a last test before releasing it to the xda community.

People, don't waste time and posts to ask for the rom, it has been said more than once oli isn't available before monday so just have to wait and prepare for a very nice rom :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
ok so i found out what happen. apparently olipro and comenx when to go visit olipro's relatives and that is why they have not finished the unlocker. so then might be working on it now since its sunday night in england or they might be working on it tomorrow. so it is what it is
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] MWillis561:
I do look forward to when they release AP 4.0, but we need to give these guys a break. Personally I wouldn't want to be working on this stuff over the weekend either. I have family and that is my priority especially on the weekend.

Thanks for all the hard work and extra hours put into the project. This includes everybody on the AP team, ITXDA, Pawel, Olipro, Cmonex and others.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] crazy cat:
I full agree.

One or two days are not the end of work. You all have a working device, so you can wait. Nice work need sometimes more time, than it was planed first. Of course we all want have the ROM, but the day of the AP-Pros have 24 hours, too :D

And also from me: Keep your good work and THANKS that you spend so much time for us.

good night!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
I'm sure none of us have a problem with Oli going to visit his relatives or taking time off from the project. The problem is with lack of info. Pawel said the ROM would be released Friday and it wasn't. Oli should have kept him informed even if he wants to treat the rest of us with total contempt.

He is supposed to be part of a team, just letting pawel know what was going on would have helped. Even now we have no idea what is happening, is it a 5 minute job when he gets back? Or does he not know how long it will take? A bit of info helps, even if it is ' Stop moaniong, it will be ready, when it's ready'!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
i totally agree.... though it makes me wonder if im going to get the brunt of the abuse frm Oli...

If i do, ill stand and take it like a man :)

edit: i too completely understand about visiting relatives...

on another note, are oli and cmonex married or something?

rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] adamelphick:
It is at best rude and at worst contemptuous of Oli not to let people know what is going on. I mean I (as everyone else) is grateful for him for producing the unlocker in the first place (for many devices not just Athena), but people are right - he should at least treat us with some respect like he always wants... I know I'll get **** for saying this (and sorry in advance Oli), but just because you do something for free doesn't mean you can take the piss!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
this fourm is about the athena and stuff related therein who cares who olipro is married too, i only say this cause i don't what this fourm to turn into high school. on a side note guess who pawel's sister is dating..... ME :eek:

LOL J/K pawel im not even sure if you have sister
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
I will get the brunt of Oli's wrath - and I won't take it like a man, I'll probably cry :cry:

AFAIK oli and cmonex are an 'item'. I don't think he's stupid enough to get married (me? bitter? what gives you that idea?)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] sergiopi:
I will never tired to say "we are developers" AGAIN AND AGAIN.:mad:

We aren't here just to have new ROMs, HOFO is the right place! (I don't care about the new ROM) If they brick their ATHENA and you ADVISED them in advance.... then they are ready for a DARWIN AWARD! :p

But in the other case, even bricking ours ATHENA we will learn, and in a developer forum is exactly what I am expecting! ASK Olipro (or POF) how many device he bricked before... :) And in this way he learned, UN-bricking, or bricking.

Please STOP to treat us as HOFO customers, I feel this more offensive than some SEX links! :) In the last week, only in this topic we had many messages, just air moving around!

OR frankly tell us "we don't want to share our knowledge" this is your right!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
no no no no no no

im not *****ing, it just kinda all fell into place.... few days ago, cmonex was locked out of oli's pc [i thought it must be remote desktop, or even cmonex hacking it] then cmonex comfirms oli went to the pub [i was thinking why tell cmonex and not pawel or itxda] and today, oli and cmonex go see oli's family.

So i was just wondering....

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
I think the point is that people talk about cmonex and people wonder how they are related - if they know they live together (I believe they do - but could be wrong) a lot of things make sense.

What some people might not know is that cmonex is also pretty bloody good at hacking and cracking herself.

All of this is hearsay and rumour which I don't normally do. If I am wrong on anything please feel free to correct me.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
soooooo ya lets stop talking about it. HIGH FIVE :D

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1907711
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnwalk:
maybe they are brother and sister. twins, who knows, who cares.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
Ok, so as everyone knows olipro was away for the weekend. I spoke with cmonex and the unlocker will be done when olipro and cmonex thinks its full prof, that might be tomorrow or the next day or next friday. so until then lets just go back to our normal lives and we will all come on one day and it will be here :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] auswims:
....... the unlocker will be done when olipro and cmonex thinks its full prof......

Much preferred to a bricked device.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
I doubt if anyone would disagree with that and we will all now just have to be patient. I just feel sorry for pawel after saying it will be released on Friday and having got his part finished he couldn't release it or explain what the problem was.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] auswims:
Seems like a bad spot to be in for pawel, but many have said there really is no fault. Most of us get the ROM's for free and shouldn't be complaining about others doing work for us so that we can enjoy more out of our devices.

As I said earlier, patience is a virtue and grattitude should be genuine.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
IT'S NOT MY PLACE... to say what I'm about to say. Give the guy a break (Olipro I mean)! Someone in his family had health trouble so he was definitely needed elsewhere. [end of line]
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
If I have been to hard on Olipro it was through lack of information. I will certainly apologise if I was out of order.

I'm big enough to defend what I say and explain why I say it - and admit IF I'm wrong (strangely it doesn't happen that often). I say what I think based on the information I have at the time - I try to get as much info as possible before speaking which is why I ask lots of questions.

We'll see what happens, my problem is I'm an info junkie - can't stand not knowing ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
i agree mabury.let him fix his own personal troubles.my apologize too.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
like confucious, i apologise if people had to rush off due to things beyond their control, but when youre hearing "i havent heard frm him" or "he went down the pub" it makes you wonder, and jump to conclusions

so my sincere apologies where they are due

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] automoveis:
Olipro and Cmonex now are online!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
My 2 cent's

Well peeps,

we all have work lives, personal lives and hobbies/passions (seriously lets just wait until this it ready for release) sometimes things come up and we have to do what we have to do.

For most of us here this is really a hobby/passion is it not?

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Srv-02:
let's call it addiction! ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
I guess I can accept that (I am fully addicted). :-)

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Olipro and Cmonex now is online!?

Olipro and Cmonex are more than one person (I think!) therefore it should be Olipro and Cmonex now ARE online!

I just thought I'd correct your English as I'm bored as the ROM hasn't been released yet....

;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] adamelphick:
If it's caused by an 'emergency' then that is totally understandable - shame on whoever said he was pissed after being down the pub then! That's what got everyone moaning in the first place!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
No!!!!!

It's my full time job.....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] automoveis:
Im from Portugal. :) i dont speak English
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
That would be pawel....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Knopfgesicht:
It's "Cmonex and Olipro now ARE online!"

;-)

ladies first =D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
You sure do type it though. ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
yeah

kinda funny how us lot who are owed nothing didnt moan really, and kept saying they owe us nothing..

but member of the project are really pissed

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
You speak English a lot better than a lot of English people...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Is it wise to point out cracks in relations that form the hand which feed us?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
No offense meant, I did say "Most" not all. I work with technology for a living (Systems/Network Engineer) but I was making a general reference. (Please do not misunderstand my meaning here, I am not trying to start a contest here)

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
hmmm i dont know, maybe they can fix the cracks if and when they release pk5, or maybe just not expose the cracks... by not saying a release date, and keeping silent like pawel suggested

rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
I hope Oli chew all our azziz out after he's done doing what he has to do, and his release is final. However, I'm very sorry about the situation with his family and hope all is well. And even though he's taking the time to make the unlocker full proof, I guarantee there well be a few noobs to brick their device the day the ROM's released. To push things even further I bet they will be pointing fingers too. Just my 2 cents and again gang lets all just wait it out (as if we have a choice) and hope for the best and remember FAMILY comes 1st.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
It never ceases to amaze me when people take anything I say seriously....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
Confucious, it may be the english thing, but somehow, you always say something, and i 100% agree

how do people believe what you say half the time

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] cmonex:
we live together only half of the time.. for now.

the rest is correct :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] cmonex:
i'm not commenting on the other stuff... we want a flasher that is as foolproof as possible, and no, we don't do this stuff 24 hours a day, we might have other duties to do too.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Which half? Day or night? ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Ow noo... So you can't use everyday to help the project? Shame on you! :P
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
theres also some other stuff keeping olipro and cmonex lately. i finally got to the bottom of everything.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Olipro:
Yes, thanks for that PK, I wonder how I ever got by without your better judgement.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] bob_beringer:
Please let them know that they are in our thoughts, prayers, and hopes for everything to come into proper alignment. Heaven knows that for the 126 pages of posts and the rest of the folks like me that have been following the development efforts on a daily basis, that we can all send out some well wishes for olipro et al for all of the work that they have done before and all of the work that we hope they will be able to contribute in the future :-) All the best to you both (olipro, cmonex) and to the rest of the team that has sacrificed to bring the project this far along as it is...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
Let me guess the condom broke? Sigh... It happened to me a few times, thank goodness for the day after pill... J/K Oli and cmonex, trying to put a smile on you guys face after all the mishap going on lately. Lost my 7 yr old in October and laughter was 1 way I kept my sanity. Hopefully it wasn't that severe as my case was. You guys just continue to think and stay positive and you'll make the best of the situation.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
olipro and cmonex

It came out earlier in the thread that there were some personal issues involved, My humble but most sincere positive thoughts go out to you what ever is going on.

Regards

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] weaselcossey:
Nearly 4 hours with no posts here. Amazing.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mw22:
Hi

My sincere wishes to olipro and cmonex as well

Guys look upwards Help is from above.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
thats because everyone now knows whats going on with the unlocker :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] weaselcossey:
Now that our bellies are full, our mouths are shut. Speaking figuratively, of course.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] WiZaxx:
I think we should all reflect on sergiopi' posts and consider what's going on.

Hats off to the team, but why treating the community as a bunch of kids incapable of handling a few glitches? Are we on a developers community or should we rename the whole thing XDA-traders:confused:

Yes I'm new, and yes I have donated to the team that I respect, but mostly I'm here to learn from what I consider the greatest team of developers, not to be intangled in an over 1200 posts forums about who does what on the weekends.

Going back to sergiopi' posts, it seems (to this newbee, knowledge thirsty) that the projects hangs-up for the very reasons he was anticipating :

The Team has not shared ANY knowledge and the same secrecy is biting them back now that one single element of the team is (rightly so!) unavailable for a few hours.

... and it is with great sadness that I post my thoughts :(
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
PK was trying to help. Don't be too hard on him.

A lot of people have been thinking bad things about you - not least me, because of lack of information.

I don't know what he posted as he removed it as soon as he saw your post so I still don't know what the problem is.

I do now know that you have problems so you don't need people like me slanging you off and I apologise for doing so.

I hope you sort your problems out and things get better for you soon. If you'd just said ' I have some personal sh!t' we wouldn't have been so hard on you.

Good luck, hope you get things sorted.