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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
Yep, no one has reported it working here yet but it cant hurt to try and see if safe mode will get you the unlock switch, if you do try it for better or worse please report your result here. I don't know of any workaround but there are a few questions which may shed some light on your situation. I in no way think you're stupid but some basics have to be covered... You do have an exynos right? You're sure it's been 11 days? Some think even entering download mode without flashing will reset the clock, thats unverified but regardless have you done so?

edit... Guess ya ninja'ed me. Bummer, you're the second that reported no joy on safe mode, haven't seen a success report yet except for the one ketan quoted who originally posted it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superherobaby:
Yes its a exynos. There was OEM option before but after bootloop it disappeared.

Oh right I have tried to enter download mode in this 11 days period..... But did not flash anything. Maybe this is the point.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] j3yps:
Came from Renovate to Dr.Ketan's

Rebooted to Recovery

Wiped Data (answered yes)

Rebooted Back to recovery

Flashed Dr.Ketan's Rom

Flashed Magisk

Facroty reset

Flashed Magisk

Rebooted System

After rebooting i saw a red text on the upper left corner of my screen about Seandroid non enforcing

Upon setting up the phone,i think it was the part of busy box, it rebooted the phone and i ended up on getting the red warning, about only official stuff or something like that.

And now im back in "jail" hoping that it will come back on the 7th day once more, the few posts before this is actually getting me worried hahaha
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dr.ketan:
Which type of factory reset you have performed in steps you have mentioned? I have marked red in quote

It was simple factory reset OR Full Format?

ROM already have magisk, why you needed to factory reset?

Regarding this

It is normal when you use stock kernel. Mine ROM have stock kernel.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] j3yps:
I did the factory reset under the WIPE section of TWRP, I honestly thought that if i just did what i did before then maybe it will be safer. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] fragtion:
So one of my scripts had the line "setenforce 0" and when executed, caused my device to reboot. Anddd....yeah. The reboot was forbidden territory after all. So that's me out of action again for at least another week. I should have just left the damn phone alone for a few more days... so much for patience. fml :(

So whatever you do, don't reboot your custom rooted ROM until you get the OEM Unlock toggle back. The process is certainly NOT complete until you do that!!

Translation: You're better off setting the phone aside, plugged in so the battery doesn't die, and letting the clock run down for another week, than starting to use your freshly rooted Note 8. Until you do this, you are in fragile territory so its not worth even using the phone.

Good luck everyone, cya in a week lol xD

Edit: wiped/flashed stock @ 19:39 08-oct. At least now I will also know definitively how long my count is
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dr.ketan:
yes inside TWRP but which? Simply slider one OR one that you need to type 'Yes' ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] j3yps:
The one where i need to type yes is the first thing i did, the one with the slider is the on i did after flashing magisk.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dr.ketan:
That was your fault.

I have shared my idea couple of days ago here and clearly said, this step which requires after flashing TWRP, is triggers OEM toggle to disappear. You did that and get punished. Once you are rooted, you should never use that option but simply factory rest option only.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] j3yps:
Yup, i never denied that it was indeed my own fault.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dr.ketan:
Anyway, You are in a jail since today only? Are you ready to try something? It won't harm as you have day 1 only if that didn't work.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] j3yps:
Yes just today. Sure thing I'm willing to try whatever it takes to just even get a slight chance of having this phone rooted once more.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dr.ketan:
Ok just check your inbox in 10minutes. GoodLuck!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sun2sunny:
Yes plz tell me i m 8n same suituation...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] j3yps:
Will do, thanks doc!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sansnil:
A question for for my brothers in jail like myself... I just flashed TWRP and didn't root at all but got still had to reflash stock after getting bit by the non-official binary redline.

What's curious to me is that the phone keeps saying it's detecting root (Samsung Pay, Health, etc) which is weird to me because 1) I didn't actually root I just flashed TWROP and after flashing the stock ROM images I'd think it would reset anything which would detected as "root." Are people seeing the same issue? Kinda disappointing as I was thinking I could live without root as long as I had TWRP for nandroid backups...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] fragtion:
This is because you tripped Knox (voided warranaty) the moment you flashed custom (TWRP) recovery (unofficial binary). RTFM :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
This is not accurate. I had the OEM toggle immediately wiping exactly as he described and then flashing your rom and it has never gone away at any time. My process was...

Flash TWRP with keys held down to enable a direct reboot to TWRP recovery

Format which is the yes wipe

flash magisk

factory reset only

install your rom

flash magisk again

factory reset

boot into system

After that the OEM unlock button was immediately available without any wait and has not gone away at any time. He flashed renovate which hides the OEM unlock button and it may have not be switched which would at any time have caused the boot loop. I believe there should be some clues in this because that rom installs differently than yours in some way which affects this switch. Figure that out and this problem is probably solved.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dr.ketan:
Basically it detects tripped knox and not root. Once you have flashed any custom binary like TWRP, your Samsung Pay and Secure folder gone for ever, forget it now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sun2sunny:
I there anyway we can root wdout twrp installing

Like Snapdragon got root yesterday.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dr.ketan:
Actually, if I am not wrong, some users have not disappeared it after flashing TWRP while some have. After flashing my ROM, he have Full factory reset with 'yes' which likely turn OEM unlock switch off. You have simply factory reset which shouldn't.

You can confirm this if you now factory reset with 'Full wipe' lol ! just kidding.. don't do otherwise, may have to go to jail for 7 days
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
Negative. Full format with yes, I've been flashing phones since before android existed and I know what I'm doing. The process was exactly as I described and your post is not accurate. If format was causing the toggle to disappear mine would have done so but did not. There is absolutely nothing that confirms what you describe as being the trigger and nothing that excludes anything else from being the trigger for the missing OEM unlock after flashing but what I can confirm is that it is not the format.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] fragtion:
For the record, I followed krabman's steps (only one 'yes' format, after the twrp flash reboot) and did not have OEM unlock toggle the moment after booting into ROM. Why krabman's OEM Unlock is sticking, seems to be a mystery because I followed the same steps
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
I only did one format also, the other was just a reset. You installed renovate correct? That one hides the switch so you would not have seen it. For whatever reason I suspect that flashing that rom and it's hiding of the switch is the factor that killed you.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] fragtion:
Using this as the basis, I did the following:

1. Flashed twrp-3.1.1-0-greatlte_V3.tar (with Odin3 v3.11.1), while holding vol up/ bixby button and power, and booted directly into twrp after the flash. For Odin3 v3.11.1, you have to explicitly set it to auto reboot btw.

2. Full-Wiped data: 'yes'

3. Rebooted to RECOVERY

4. Flashed no-verity-opt-encrypt-5.1.zip from TWRP

5. Flashed DrKetanROM_N950FD_N1_XDA.zip

6. Flashed Magisk-v14.2(1420).zip

7. Factory Reset

8. Flashed Magisk-v14.2(1420).zip again

9. Rebooted to system.

Everything worked great, but no OEM Unlock toggle from the moment I booted into it (first thing I checked). A reboot put me back in jail for now
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] recepo1:
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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dr.ketan:
Steps 4,6,7,8 are not needed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
I'm getting a new twrp backup and then I'm going to flash again using format. If this thing is going to be a problem child I want to know now and sell it at max value. Results in a while. I would say that no one really knows what steps are vital and which are unneeded. Factory resets for example wont hurt anything but might serve to break the chain that is leading to the unwanted result. When I did mine with all those resets and reflashes it worked. I had the toggle immediately and went right back into recovery and flashed magisk because it didn't take during the rom install. The rom also booted itself into recovery after I gave root to the toolbox to install busybox without issue. I've been in and out of recovery at least a half dozen times now and flashed a couple other things. Rebooted not sure how many times. Most of that wouldn't have been possible if my toggle had been reset to off and was missing. It wasn't.

At any rate if it cant be repeated then it's time to consider moving on to the next thing. Someones got to bite the bullet, might as well be me.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
Ok, I have formatted (yes formatted, I had to type yes) I then installed your rom ketan using the same procedure I used the first time. Again it failed root. I booted back into twrp and installed it manually and root then worked. A minute after opening the toolbox it decided it needed to install busybox and I let it auto boot into recovery and install it. I have the OEM unlock toggle which is visible and it is on, checked perhaps 30 seconds after the system was up.

I first said format was not causing the OEM switch to disappear but that isn't logically correct. There are two possibilities. It has nothing to do with the OEM unlock switch disappearing as I first said or alternatively it does have something to do with it but further on into my install process something I have done has circumvented it. Again here is my process, and yes, I know that some of these steps absolutely must be unneeded. I would submit however that we are not yet certain which steps because we don't know what triggers the OEM lock switch to go missing and we don't know what is circumventing it from being hidden now.

In order to start as close to the same process as before I removed my sim cards and put a micro SD in the phone loaded with the files. So... I began with the flash of TWRP which is as close to the beginning as I can get without flashing a stock firmware and waiting a week. And then..

1. Installed TWRP following the instructions exactly. Note that the instructions ask you to flash the verity/encryption file after you reboot the recovery, I did so.

2. I then factory reset.

3. I proceeded with the TWRP instructions by flashing magisk

4. I factory reset.

5 I flashed the rom.

6 I factory reset.

7 I flashed magisk. Yes, again.

8 I factory reset.

9. Rebooted into system.

So, thats twice, I'm now transferring my apps back over with Ti. Already been in the recovery twice and rebooted. verified as I type this that OEM unlock is visible and on.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dr.ketan:
It seems csc been flashed according to sim, as all roms are same but after detecting sim it gives msg to change csc. So flashing twrp and wiping without sim preventing from disappearing oem?? Still we couldn't pinpoint what exact triggers it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
You think it might be something as simple as leaving the sim out until after the flash. lol That would sure be awesome and a little amusing, anyone in a position to and willing to check by following the same procedure but with their sim in the phone? I've used up all my bravery for the day. O_o
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] fragtion:
My sim was removed this whole weekend so it can't be that surely (I also didn't get the SIM changed message at all this weekend when flashing your ROM, Doc. I did get it last weekend yeah, and it is exactly what caused me to reboot and get softbricked the first time)

For what it's worth I should probably also state that before I actually softbricked earlier, one thing I did do is unzip DrKetans OEM check apk and found an XML with some getprop checks, namely for "ro.oem_unlock_supported" and "sys.oem_unlock_allowed". I queried both of these via terminal and they were already set to 1, though OEM Unlock toggle was hidden. I then purposefully "setprop" them to 1, "just in case" (i did not risk to try set to 0 first) - but this had no effect whatsoever

so the problem is elsewhere
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
Umm it's been idiot proof since day one. I have the same device. Rooted.

Sent from my Note 8 + Infinity ROM [emoji482]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] force70:
No such thing as idiot proof on xda these days...we have elite level idiots here lol.

sent from my Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
What I don't get is the not even trying thing. That was known before this thread even started and it's been touched on in other threads besides this one where it's been brought up over and over and was recapped just a few pages ago. I mean I don't expect anyone to read a 60 page thread but wouldn't the last few and first few be included in any kind of due diligence? It's on the the TWRP thread if you browse that. It's in some of the rom threads. Even if you don't know much of anything about rooting phones the subject of the thread is the missing OEM, wouldn't you at least check to see if you were affected? lol I'm not trying to be a Richard but sheeshh! How about just a little effort?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] recepo1:
Im on the 11th day taiwan version dual sim version did the safe mode trick and oem unlock was there i toggled it on and rebooted without turning off safe mode and oem unlock was still there...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MistahBungle:
I also followed this process to the letter & flashed Dr Ketan's rom. OEM unlock has stuck in settings. Haven't tried a reboot apart from that initial one after the install yet though.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
I'm an Australian Telstra user on TEL/TEL/TEL

Had phone for one week before OEM unlock appeared - like most here.

After 1 week I tried to install TWRP, root and keep custom ROM - Fail. Of course now we know why, so I was sent to jail.

Now is my first day out of jail. I miss Viper,S Health (coz i do alot of walking), custom fonts and some other stuff pretty badly, so I decided to 'play it safe' and just go for Renovate. Sorry I'z not being a guinea pig for now. But for you all who just wanted a confirmed method that just works for now then this is how I got myself up and running on Renovate after being in jail (essentially for two weeks now) - So don't hate me for not doing more testing!

How to flash Renovate and not stuff up. Remove SIM card before starting (I got this from Krabman's posts so I was not going to tempt fate at this stage by leaving in my SIM card, this is just a playing safe method for now).

1. Install TWRP (I trust you all are okay with everything up to this part)

2. In TWRP, swipe right and go into menu.

3. Wipe / Format Data / Yes

4. Reboot into RECOVERY

5. Flash DM-Verity

6. Wipe / Factory reset (by swiping)

7. Flash Renovate - I chose to root with Magisk cause it works for my banking apps.

8. After flashing Renovate, allow it to boot into System.

9. Do your basic setup and then reboot.

10. Now insert SIM and continue to setup your phone, Ti and all that good stuff. Phone is now rooted and working, TWRP is all working and safe to use as normal. This is the part that I did Ti restore and flashed Viper4Android etc etc.

11. Happy days for now, until we work out exactly what the issues are.......:good:

If your installing Dr K's ROM then please follow Krabman's instructions or other's who have successfully installed that ROM. This is only the method I used for installing Renovate after being in Jail.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
I know the feeling about not wanting to mess up a good thing. On the other hand if you were to try a reboot and go into recovery and back out to system we could pretty well cement the fact that the process works. From there it would be figuring out why it works. Not going to hack on you if you don't, that week is daunting enough to give pause. It's my belief though that it should work, I was running for days before I reflashed to verify the format question and I've already been in out of TWRP several times doing my setup this time as well which I had also done before. If you immediately got your OEM and it's on I'm thinking that is a signal that you're there.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MistahBungle:
Alright Krabman, just for you buddy ;)

---------- Post added at 04:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:06 PM ----------

Edit - Hokay...

*Hubert J. Farnsworth voice*

Good news everyone !

Booted into TWRP, did a Nandroid while I was there, rebooted back into system, all good & OEM Unlock still sticking in developer settings ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] j3yps:
The thing about the sim card is interesting, i have to wait 6 more days to be able to try it haha

BTW i got "jailed" after flashing a rom with my sim card on

- Booting the phone in safe mode without a sim card, did not help with the OEM Unlock option appearing, could it be possible that the timer starts after the phone sets the CSC?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Wait do I need to put my sim there? To get the timer started?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] rocketmail.com:
Am sure without sim, your jail timer won't start.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
I've successfully rooted and installed dr.ketan rom but oem timer startred again because I never used sim trick. Haven't tried to boot as oem is missing in developer option. Will wait another 7 days to appear oem unlock option. Is there anyone who can boot without oem unlock option? ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] j3yps:
Dr.ketan posted an APK file that could make the OEM Unlock show a few pages back. Worth a shot
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
I've already tried bro, oem is still missing even though dr.ketan app said it's success. That is one of the reason I was still dare not to boot. ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] fragtion:
What Sim trick?

I already provided my steps which match turilo/krabman's, and I clearly said that I did not have my sim in my phone at all when I did it. Keeping sim out while flashing is not what causes OEM lock to stay, please guys don't get your hopes up on that. It's something else, like a very fine step during the flashing process which I must have done differently. I've posted my steps, krabman posted his, so maybe we can identify the crucial difference from that but I can say with certainty that it's not the SIM. Anyway you can believe what you want but I'm telling you that the SIM being out made no difference on my device. OEM disappeared the moment I booted into custom ROM.

Anyway I flashed stock again and booted straight into Safe Mode. Im going to stay in safe mode with aeroplane mode, did not sign into google or samsung so it is basically clean of any account information or communication to the outside world. I want to see if OEM lock still appears after 1 week in this state
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] j3yps:
Now that's some serious dedication ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
I am not sure about sim trick bro. Some peoples said removing sim while flashing succeeded in oem unlock option to stick. It could be right or wrong but it's worth to try. For me I didn't tried that trick because I realized peoples posting that sim trick after flashing my device. By the way I'm happy using dr.ketan rom with some mods I've always used. Now restoring my apps with titanium backup. I only forget to flash dual speakers mod and v4A. Will wait until oem unlock option appear and then I will install those mods. ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] fragtion:
Yeah look you are definitely better off flashing with SIMs out, because less chance of facing prompts which makes your device reboot and yeah I guess the chance is there that it helps some devices keep OEM toggle. For me it did not help, period. So yeah... :) Keep us updated and yeah please be careful what you flash etc, or you will regret it if you reboot now ;) better letting the device sit for this last week to be sure
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Eh. Does the timer start even tho I have no sim inside?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
Actually I've used THL(Thailand) csc before flashing twrp and dr.ketan rom but to my suprise csc was still THL after first boot and asking me to change csc which I've just skipped because it will factory reset and will cause soft brick. I don't want to be in 7 days jail without root again lol. This is my 2nd times flashing twrp and root. ? Now I am wondering it's still safe to boot into twrp or normal boot with oem unlock option appear after 7 days. I will update here whatever informations that could help others. [emoji106] [emoji106] [emoji106]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] fragtion:
I guess we're going to find out still. Like I say I have no SIM in mine since last full wipe (the last time I had a sim in my device was the first time I bricked it, ~ 10 days ago now) and so I booted straight into safemode after flashing stock again yesterday, and have stayed there since, not granting the device any internet to poll samsung servers. I don't think anybody really knows what triggers the timer or we could have probably intercepted it by now. I don't think it has anything to do with sim, though, personally. It seems to be a hardware clock independent of the system clock. I could be wrong but maybe if we disconnect the battery internally we could bypass the waiting time? (or in worst case it would reset to 7 days of waiting again) Maybe someone with previously disassembled phone could rule this out as a possibility
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Disconnecting the battery without really opening the phone is easy. Just drain until 0% . After it turns off. Go to download mode and let it stay until the phone force shut down. Then charge. Done. When the battery voltage is too low. The battery chip cut the power. Which equals to battery disconnect
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dr.ketan:
What was about two other toast msg. Don't worry, don't boot but again click that app icon and watch over screen, just after enable, do you able to see those two toast msgs?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
It said passed doctor. But oem unlock option still not showing in Developer Option.