yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
ROFL...... I "HOPE" new new Advantage has unlimted space for HD and better video drivers along with back lit keyboard, however as lxtda states "Hope is what keeps us alive.....hehehehe. Take your time bud, beers on me. :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Goibnui:
"Hope"

I am more familiar with the on about "hope in on hand and sh*t in the other, se which gets filled first!!"

Steve
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Has it been released yet?

Eh? Eh?

Eh?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lpsi2000:
funny the same happened to me too :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Digital.Diablo:
Still fingers x'd for a Thursday release for me - an extended Weekend here in the UK, so plenty of testing time!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
yeah, im off from tomorrow afternoon till tuesday morning. My kaiser comes tomorrow, so ill have about 8 hours to play with it before my athena comes. then im doing a video comparison on those two and the touch just to see which i keep

:)

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
we are here....we are waiting:)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] vicinc:
Athena Rom 4

we are barely keeping our breath in the expectation of the new Athena Rom. Release it guys, we will test it for you.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
What he says!! :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] auramae:
Wow, we are a pitiful bunch....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
Everybody Calm Down

the team will release the rom when it is ready. i don't understand what all this impatient is about most of us already have wm6.1 now don't get me wrong, i am looking forward to this rom just as much as the next. but you people are acting like your phone does not work at all :p give them until this weekend and let them test, then if its still not out.... will burn there houses down :eek: lol j/k
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] bharatrit:
What they both say ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
So if I get this right... You can better burn someones house down instead of being impatient? :S
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marek101:
I think this thread should be closed for now.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] :
Something I totally agree with.

I also advocate 1 month bans for those that keep asking when it will be released. Make them wait a damn sight longer each time they ask!! :D :D :D

Keep up the good work guys, I'm sure the wait will be more than worth it. I think I'll go down the pub and check again after the holiday.....No doubt you all have plans with your families for the weekend, especially if it is a public holiday where you guys are, and have many other things more important than to be worrying about us keep asking you when it's ready.

Lock the thread and go and enjoy your Easter, Semana Santa, or whatever the local holiday is..you'll be better of than stressing out and hassling the project crew to release the ROM if it's not quite right!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
Well said, I do agree about spending the holiday with family. However, the part about being banned would be a bit extreme, I think it would be best if they do close the thread. I think people would then spend more time reading issues others are having with their device and lending a hand in helping others. I want to wish everyone a Happy Easter or whatever you celebrate. Thanks again gang and you all be safe. :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lpsi2000:
Locking the thread and banning people for asking "When" is a little extreme. I am actually enjoying watching people fining for it like it is a new drug coming on the market. :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] enthusio:
been watching my own reaction and others in this thread and trying to figure out why we - eh - me keep peeking to check the status. I can only ascribe it to:

iphone envy - better browser UI etc

Incomplete nature of Win mobile compared to other operating systems

Bad case of Geek-itis or is that Gadgetritis

Genuine desire for an improvement of the ovarall user experience...

:confused:Sheesh now my head hurts from all this philosophising! (Sorry my kids are watching Winnie the Poo and I got Tiggr stuck in my head:( )
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] charon72:
I have to claim guilty to Number 3 and 4.

Total geekishness and desire for better software.

checking this forum/thread 4-6 time a day..
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Digital.Diablo:
So where the foo is it?

Nah, I'm just messin!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marek101:
If just half of the people who keep asking about the release date would donate atleast 5 bucks..... I'm sure we would have it by now.

Just my 2 cents
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Mrsums:
I've been following this thread with interest (and not a little amusement). So far as I am concerned, the only thing I would like to see improved on the Ameo (over PK3.0) is bluetooth. If this gets fixed and my I-style works better, I will be a very happy bunny.

I fully support the devs in testing as much as they feel appropriate before the release. Also support they take a good break over Easter, whatever delay this brings to the release.

Also support a £5 donation from whomever downloads and appreciates the new ROM when it comes.

Just my 2cents

Robert
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] banyas:
i can't wait any more.....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
download links posted

no theyre not really, i just thought id get your hopes up. If you want it, then wait silently and patiently, and be happy.. dont keep asking or saying i cant wait anymore. if you cant wait anymore, then smash your athena with a hammer, or sell it or something.. I think you'll find that you dont WANT TO wait anymore.

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] olympusgr:
I would like to wish to everybody here happy easter and thank the team for their efforts to offer us the best rom!

Only one question, if we could have a hint whether the rom is going to be released in 1,2 days or later so that we could spend these days with our families and not in front of the pc screen till late night everyday.. :cool:

Thank you very much in advance!:)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] gloom:
Like people said before, it's not like our athena was defect and absolutly needing a sort of patch to fix it.

Better spend the coming days with family and look from time to time :p Our maybe spending time with family will helps to forget a bit PK4. Will enjoy it more after those days then ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
yerp... or even hard reset, and remember how goot pk3 was before you installed all your crap!

Having ust got my second athena today, I had forgotten how amazing it was.

But pk3 is amazing!

so dont forget about it, even though its from december

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
When?

hehe
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Melmac:
I'll Get the DONATION ball rolling

Come on guys start to show your financial appreciation as well as your anticipation,which is already showing in abundance. Donation made before I've seen 4.0 as no its going to be WORTH EVERY MINUTE OF THIS WAIT.

Confirmation number: 0CF6542087331474M

Melmac
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] dieterpapa:
Just to raise the level of this thread :):)

There is a song: "What's another year......" maybe this will help us :D:

And the headline of this thread:

"Athena Project 4.0 coming, but needs... "

more patience :)

Dieter
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
A tribute

As a tribute to this effort, and especially this thread, which has brought out the worst obsessive compulsive traits in us all, I have decided to get the words "Athena Project 4.0 coming, but needs..." tatooed across my back in big gothic letters.

It sounds so hopeful and so close at hand, while at the same time mournful and so far away? Is such a contradiction possible?

Okay guys, I'm getting really philosophical, I think I just need to flash a rom. I'll go play with my Kaiser...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. now thats a true athena project fenatic. hehe he got me to post. listen guys i would so love to release ap 4.0 today but i just can't.

The rom has currently bt issues where ur in a call and u loose the headset. now we might have that fixed today but then also theres some sort of screen issue reported by ltxda that i truley cant replicate and also dont have too much info on because he is busy lately.

also cmonex is working on a config app. this isnt too much fun and is time consuming so it is taking a while. she hopes to get it done by monday(hint :D) then also we have a new dialer in the addons(its in addons because of what im about to say) that doesnt have a send key so we will be maping the ok key to send for those who decide to install it and dont use the keyboard.

the mapping will be only for those who install the dialer cab so no worries about for others UNLESS u all want the dialer in the rom and could care less if ur ok key is now a send key.

i believe many will agree to leave it as a addon. also will someone please find hirad for me.... i need some new splashes. i dont have the slightest idea how to beat the awesome ones we have in 3.0 :p

i can almost smell the release now :cool:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fatouraee:
Thanks Guys for your hard work and dedication.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Please leave enough space with no text and main graphics at the top and bottom of secondary splash screens so that these text don't get messed up when safe mode reset message appear.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] GuardianZX9:
Just a non delivery question ;)

Is there going to be any change to the Bluetooth stack? other than what is in WM6.1?

I have one of the Bluetooth Sony Watches and with the Athena the battery is dead on the watch inside 8 hours, on my TytnII it will last 4-6 days.

I am hoping the new V4 Rom will assist in fixing this issue for me.

Thanks for all the hard work guys.

G
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rvnteck:
WOW! I guess the 6.1 ROM is the culprit why all of a sudden all of my 2.0 bluetooth headsets drains battery charge so fast, first I thought its just time to replace them. But then when I bought a Jabra BT2020 3 times (specs says it has 360 hours standby time) and all 3 I thought has battery issues ( 2 from Expansys and 1 from a local Bestbuy store) All 3 brandnew headsets last only 2 days of so moderate use. I hope there will be a fix for this. thanks guys!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Mosser:
Now that people mention it, I am finding exactly the same bluetooth headset issues with my BT8010 and also put it down to the battery getting tired, but now i think about it, it has only started to have less runtime since i installed WM6.1, and i now have to charge my BT headset daily rather than every 3-4 days
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] dimisxxx:
Dont worry be happy baby......

:)Dont be in a hurry Olympus because i will spank you.............bad boy;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] QAN:
I think it has more todo with the latest radio rom. The 1.57 radio drains my device battery and headset batery. This was not the case with the previous radiorom.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
I disagree, i'm running PK 3.0 with the 1.57 radio, and the battery is fine. I can go a full day with wifi on at work and I still charge my Jabra BT 8010 headset every 2 to 3 days. So I wouldn't say it's the radio. Just my 2 cents. :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
this rom is going to be the best ever.I hope it will be complete soon.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] GuardianZX9:
I am not running the WM 6.1 OS on the Rom I have, also I am on Radio 1.50.

I do not have any issues with the Jabra BT8010 draining fast, just the Bluetooth CallerID watch.

But again, that device uses the Com Port Profile and not the hands free or headset profiles.

G
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
since we are having bt issues i believe we will use a combination of 3.0's bluetooth drivers in sys and another builds oem drivers. we are still looking at issues at this time with bt... my head hurts :(
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
i love pk's roms just as much as the next maybe even more. but i really like being able to install and uninstall any app that i want. i get that it takes up the storage even if you dont add apps to the rom but i feel there is more than enough storage. so all i really want is 6.1 with no ext rom like the one that is alread posted but, this is where pawel062 comes in, i would like some of the software from the new htc x7510 including the htc album that i tried to oh so hard to fix for vga with no luck :( don't take it personally Pawel i know you work hard on these roms, in any case...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] jab:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=366333
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] :
A lite ROM with PK4.0 tweaks/style would be great.

Many apps can't be removed if insde ROM and many apps can't be updated, except always reflashing.

Will there be a Lite-ROM? I do have all Apps i need as cabs on my microdrive. I don't need many preinstalled apps i will never ever use even if they are great.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
My thoughts exactly.

Don't worry if we leave any space unused. It does not matter as storage is not an issue. It's more important to be clean and uncluttered. Just let the users choose which cabs to install. In other word, everything should become add-on, just like the way hdubli and irus have done it.

Focus on speed.

Give a nice black theme and splash screens.

Focus on getting the right cab into the add-on. This should include all the cabs which are difficult to obtain. e.g., Opera 9.5 ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
i guess no one reads posts in the upgrading forum :p

in there i said i am doing a vanilla. im thinking of naming it black vanilla unless someone comes up with a better name. it is build 19174 at this point and is close to going to beta.

log:

removed customer expirence improvment program

removed auto update

removed all ringtones except ring-standard

removed catalog

removed transcriber

removed windows mobile green tsk

removed ia zip

removed cyberon voice commander

removed htc x button

removed intent midlet mananger

removed microsoft style dialer images

removed microsoft style comm mananger images

removed tmo web and walk today screen plugin

updated .net cf to 3.5

removed provxml that set windows mobile 6.1 tsk as default(caused issues when i tried to add my own tsk but also kept tsk in rom to let people still use it)

added new original from htc vga 6 button comm mananger

changed tmo pin pad and dialer to htc gray/black style

changed tmo sub display images to htc sub displayed images

cleaned today screen to only display date and getting started plugins

added teksoft fingertouch

added my own black tsk

added sdk certs and htc rom provxmls(bookmarks, opera settings, etc..)

apps that are in there:

adobe reader le, bluetooth explorer, getting started, internet sharing, modem link, quick gps, remote desktop, sap settings, sim mananger, streaming media, task mananger(the 6.1 one), voice recorder, and windows live 34.800, hsdpa switch, and im debating on adding connection setup.

im currently adding my own reg edits via xml and also am looking on the forum for some new ones to add. also will most likely still updated the above apps before it goes to beta status.

so everyone like?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] D1ab70:
I had a few requests for this via pm, Storage Manager.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Could you give some brief description of what this does, or provide a link that describes its function please? Thanks!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Sounds good to me. Would be good to keep the SIP as bare as possible. Is it possible to remove also the standard keyboard? I'm not sure if this would cause problem though. Typically, having too many SIP causes problem selecting the one that we really want.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
sorry pawel i did not mean to start a craze, just a side note and its not that important, i can change it my self if need be, but i like the tmobile subdisplay better only cause i can see it in the sun better then the dark blue on darker blue. im not sure if anyone else agrees with me. but its your rom and you cant please everyone. not that im not pleased lol :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] dimisxxx:
Name for the Rom....maybe..

BLACK ULTIMATE
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] zeer:
i would like you to keep and remove :)

to keep:

microsoft style dialer images (i like'em more)

to remove:

teksoft fingertouch (or its not "vanilla")

adobe reader le (latest foxit reader rules - try some magazines with heavy graphics)

getting started (athenas = pros we all know that if there's noobs they use standard ROMs)

windows live 34.800 (ok i can "live" with that ;) )

also there's build 19710 (Schap's as i remember) in kaiser threads...

the name BLACK ULTIMATE is pretty...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] :
What are the Microsoft style dialer images?

Hope the new ROM has no green dialer anymore.

(I like Kaiser style dialer most, because it has big buttons)

Teksoft Fingertouch isn't freeware, only in PK-ROMs, so removing it would be bad. Maybe this is something for Ext-ROM, if an update appears we can easily update Ext-ROM with Ext-ROM-Editor.

The Standard-Keyboard doesn't need to be removed, there's an app called Sip-Change, there you can set the default SW-Keyboard.

Can the ROMs from Kaiser (19199.0.7.0, ....) be ported to athena? Kaiser is qvga, this is impossible, isn't it?

Edit: Thanks for creating a vanilla ROM!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Would be nice to have the option of not having Fingertouch and standard keyboard. I know about SIP change . The presence of standard SIP is a real nuisance as there is a tendency to keep reverting back to it when using SIP change.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] greatestkelvin:
Employ me

I am really good at testing new software and new products. Though I do not know much about programming, I have good taste. I can tell u whether the software is user friendly or is the product going to be a huge success..
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Midget_1990:
Our new ROM should be the dogs bollocks :D the new 6.1 builds are fast, stable and have nice features. Combine that with the AP and you have a kick ass ROM :D

[subliminal message]

Donate! I still dont have a device and that makes it hard to cook! :rolleyes:

[/subliminal message]
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] zeer:
PAPPL

all is possible. the qvga rom works perfectly with vga devices if ported correctly.

so, my main concern is: build 19710.1.1.0 is a hexed fake or not?

there's some secrets in xda-ms forums lately....

2 midget_1990

<edited out>

<sorry all for your extra time reading nonsense>
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
by microsoft style dualer images i ment those old like light blue dialers that we saw a while ago. not the new wm6 style. trust me they are ugly. right now the rom has the black video dialer style. u know the one u get in dual if u dont have my tsk running. it looks perfect with my tsk. about the apps those 4 u can delete the shortcuts from your windows/start menu folder and they will be gone.

the rom is light already. i believe live should stay because its latest and not many roms have the new 34.800 and adobe reader should also be in there bc the version im going to include in it is a version that no one has. fingertouch im leaving in because it lets many leave the keyboard at home. this though could change if many more people would agree with u. the rom is light enough already and ill think ull agree with this especially since ext rom will be empty in this rom.

again if more people agree with u i will agree with ur changes.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
from what i hear 19188 and 19174 are the latest wm6.1.0.0 while 199XX is the latest wm6.1.1.0 Also we have found that these 3 builds are the most stable builds right now. we haven't ported 19188 yet but im finiding from tests i should stick with 19174 because it is very fast and stable.

extrom will be clean and if there are any updates from teksoft u will need a cab anyway from us to update so ill have it overwrite the old files. teksoft as u said aint free so should stay in otherwise if u decided u want it in future bc of a update it will be in there for free so u wont have to buy it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
i dont know about removing the default sip. could cause stability problems. teksoft i actually am thinking about making it a removable cab this time around so say u dont want it then ull go to settings and remove it and it wont use ur space then. right now its unremovable but this is a alpha build im running on my athena. still needs all the apps in the rom to be updated, needs to be tested, and i guess the teksoft cab made removable.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
19716 is a genuine htc kaiser build. my friend has it and gave to pdaviet and ported it to other devices.

dont get on midgets case btw. without him u wouldnt have the 18533 build or this 19174 build being used for 4.0 vanilla. it really sucks for him bc he had athena for a while and fell in love with it then got it taken away :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
sounds good, but if your head hurts you should take a break.... go play halo or something :) thats what i do
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Hope the drivers solve the problem with the Style-i ...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Good luck with you're headache. I know I can't think when my head hurts. We'll wait some more... ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
hi 2 questions I have

1.wiil AP 4.0 support x7501?

2.it will be only ROM or it will include also Radio?

thx
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fatouraee:
yes it will be compatible with x7501 . as far as radio im not sure but i think it wont..
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
radio, os, and also will need a spl upgrade.......:eek:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
perfect,so only think I need is olipro hard spl.thaks im looking forward to see this ROM.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
SPL? Previous unlock is no good? I'm reasonably well informed maybe a definition of SPL is enough to help me understand. Thanks.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] boinger66:
new spl is to repartition ur memory to allow for more room