yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
You people are a crazy bunch. First people say I talk too much and now people know I risked my Athena with the pre-release people nag on me saying too little. :confused:

But I will gladly answer any questions I can. So... Shoot.

Mabury
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] darkjedi:
Well...how is it? Is it the 2nd coming of Christ? Better than AP 3.0? Will it do my laundry?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
Did you teach it how to fetch the news paper and open up beers yet?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] responderman:
Stone me, it had to come back to BEER AGAIN! YIPEEE! I CAN HAVE A BEER:D:D:D:D:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] responderman:
Where did I put my shed key???:rolleyes:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
how much storage space did you start with
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
It's nice and no it doesn't fetch beer yet. But you never know with the AP team. ;)

The best thing so far would be the new Opera. It goes fullscreen automatically, the scrolling is real fluid.

There's a new feature under 'settings > system' called WOW HD setting. Gives the audio quite a boost but causes some problems with me. Audio not resuming after resuming video playback. And TomTom does'nt complete his (or her) sentences. It does when you turn this off.

Futhermore the screen orientation is a nice gimmick. Turning the device changes the screen from landscape to the other and back. Sometime it's anoying because it does this whenever you want or don't wan it to happen.

If people want more or have questions please don't hessitate.

Mabury
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] automoveis:
My question is:

AP4 release today?:D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mardibloke:
In landscape mode, hit the start menu, and how many items are shown, I only get first 7, so settings does not appear.

If you have the tomtom plugin on today, does it "show" through when in the Phone dial pad?

Also in phone dial pad, try Menu/Options and then close the Options menu, do you see menu still showing along bottom of phone dial pad?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fatouraee:
Any improvement on video playback and quality?

also how is the speed?. i know wm6.1 is faster but i had some freezing happening so i switched back to ap3.0.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Storage

Total: 123.26 MB

In use: 26.87 MB

Free: 96.39

Program

Total: 100.84 MB

In use: 38.07 MB

Free: 62.77 MB
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
I never use the today plugin. And the screen not being covered all the way is said to be a RealVGA issue.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
I'm not ON the team. Just testing and giving feedback.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
To be honnest I don't know if there are new video drivers being used. But some people said playback was always awfull. I don't agree.

In TCPMP I do believe video playback is a lot smoother using the hardware. But with the software the video playback is smooth. With the hardware driver is faster in comparison but not fast enough (maybe if you re-encode it though).
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lpsi2000:
I thought only Storage memory was being messed with (from 144 to 123) However it looks like from the information above the Program Memory was change from 110 to 100.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fatouraee:
Thanks for the answer. the play back is not bad some times i have problem with video but i use coreplayer 1.21 and tcpmp and it is fine unless the size of the video is large. and for some reason when i play files from MiniSD it is in bad shape. but microdrive is ok.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] bharatrit:
my question

my question is ...... pl refer below ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
So guys when??
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] pakmakos:
this thread starts at february 09... it's over 2 months... why is it taking so long???????
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] darkjedi:
Because they hate you...

Geez, do you even know HOW to read?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] charon72:
taking long because they r working out bugs, and trying to make it as foolproof as possible, just have patience, it will come when its rdy.

rather wait a bit more than have an expensive brick :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] gloom:
Maybe cause they're doing a nice job and cause they do it for free during their freetime.

The AP Team is not like a company who is expecting to release a commercial product for a given date in order to gain money.

So let us leave them the time needed to put everything fine togheter
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] vicinc:
Think guys, this team is doing what HTC was supposed to do, in their spare time with passion and dedication. HTC just released one device with a crap rom and lots of bugs. HTC should have those on their payroll.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. im on a 20USD data plan here. also have 200 txt but recently with all the txts i keep getting i might go to unlimited. dealed only with 200 bc everyone just sent messages to aim or msn instead. its 20USD more here for unlimited sms.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yea. should of gotten some myself just to resell them and make a profit. oh well :(
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
i dont think thr 16gb are out yet. 12 are. havent looked lately though so i could be wrong.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
wow. them going out of buisness got us some new users.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Digital.Diablo:
Personally I'd prefer the dev's to hold back for a little longer to get a more stable release than to release to the general populous as a flaky rom. You're only going to end up with nobbers who manage to brick their devices because they can't follow a few simple instructions, or get all overly critical and divert the attention of the dev's away from product development to support. Having said that, it would perhaps be useful to have a closed group of say 5-10 experienced users who can report back any issues and strangeness, but hey, its not my project, so far be it from me to say how best to drive the project forward.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
the team of about 10 or more will be testing this rom through its paces. early version have had bt stack problems so we are trying a new stack right now. its coming along but not done yet. though besides ltxda whinning about 1 thing and the stack problems i been told the rom is otherwise stable. just needs maybe some good speed tweaks to make it even faster.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
dont worry we are doing exactly what u said. its not coming until its ready. feedback though from the test roms our testing people are using says besides some bt stack problems which i might have solved with a stack for a different build and ltxda whinning about 1 thing in this rom not being like he likes(i love how it works though) says that this rom is very stable. its very fast but i might put some speed tweaks in there to make it even faster.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Update...

Trust me you don't want to test this ROM yet.

BT issues, frustrating. Stability issues, more frustrating. lol

PK is compiling a new version tonight with new BT stack also...hope it works better than the one I'm testing now. Sucks having it disconnect in the middle of conversations. Also VoiceCommand is extremely buggy under the ROM I'm currently working on plus there is a battery issue due to a screen bug. There are a few more issues and you guys don't want to have to deal with this. I'm having a frustrating time because I use my Athena fulltime for business. lol...have to laugh to keep from pulling my hair out. ;p

EDIT: Boinger and I are the picky ones. This ROM MUST meet expectations! LOL
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marka2k:
THANK YOU!

:)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Digital.Diablo:
x2, and thanks for the regular progress updates...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lpsi2000:
Progress updates are great way to keep everyone inform and calm :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lakeman:
thanks so much for your teams efforts

just for fun I read over the olipros unlocker thread and given all the uninformed and unwarranted criticisms he received when trying to help people I fully understand and support your decision to wait till you are happy before releasing the ROM.

Still , I look forward with anticipation and had time to flash the 6.1 rom which I thought was a bit faster but missed a lot of the features of pk3.

I thought snapvue worked a bit more easily as well.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] boinger66:
yep i view the athena as a functional device and... currently this rom is far from functional... i find the BT / screen / battery issues unacceptable ... and not even gonna start on others...

basicly its not functional...

and yes ltxda and i are super picky with roms... i need it to function flawlessly...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] c0mput0r:
First of all great work and many thanks to all those that are putting forward all the effort to get these sweet roms to us.

My view is to keep it in testing as long as needed. Info of new features is nice but can lead to annoying feature begging. If it was me making these roms I don't know if I would be able to handle the constant barrage of whining and the same questions over and over again. I know it feels like its impossible to wait but you can do it. Besides its not like AP 4.0 is going to be a duke nukem forever. Anyway thanks for not only the roms but for the patience to put up with the people.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] apd:
Here here!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Kenjari:
to restate ... will this have a radio? Tell me to shhh...if this is not to be disclosed!

Thanks again to the team!

Im not sure if I should upgrade to the new radio or just be patient!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
they said it will include a 1.57 radio.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
well i have almost everything except for live search app(maps etc..) in the rom. get this.... ext rom is EMPTY and i mean empty. just a xml is in there to set ext rom version in device info. everything is in the os.nb including cabs that run on customization for opera, jetcet print, and google maps. thats ur preview for today folks.

the rom should go into the hands of the testers today. i hope bt issues will be gone and other things. this is the first true test version of the athena project 4.0 full rom. previous test versions tested the new apps and base build.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Empty means no nice primary and secondary splash screen for all three dpi also? Hope it's not THAT empty ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] brucewilsonpa:
Can anyone give me link to Network Wizard

I just installed the Athena 6.1 ROM and there's no network wizard -- I thought I setup my ATT connection correctly but something must be missing because I can't get my email to connect. Can someone please give me a link to download the network wizard that was left out of this ROM.

Thanks!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] sabes143:
Hi

Find lots of information about WM6.1 here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=363542

Good luck
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] brucewilsonpa:
Thanks -- I've gone thru that entire thread and searched elsewhere, including the related webs and threads -- no one seems to have a copy of the network wizard for USA. I've tried to pull the specific settings off AT&T support website but so far have not solved my problem. I guess I'm going to have to reflash to the HTC ROM and give up on Athena 6.1 or WM 6.1.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] sergiopi:
Try this one.... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1975917&postcount=2 as network wizard

This one http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1874845&postcount=2 is just for AT&T Internet and MMS settings...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] brucewilsonpa:
Great! That did it -- thanks a lot!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
its kind of out of my hands. u all know what im waiting on and some even have the rom already at the expensive of a few scares. the final is very close though.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
what exactly we are waiting for?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yep. almost every day i get that somewhere.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. i wish i could tell them well it matches..... :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
hehe soon. many of my buds have iphones so they would say im copying them if i did that. wish i could get the os from the iphone on the athena. that would really get them down :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol nice. hmm i should get it and give it as a present to one of my iphone buds :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. maybe. who knows :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. dang i forgot i put that website up :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. nice. i think we are close to 2000 posts also.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
dont think there is. would be a nice feature though.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
nope had no time to even talk with them before school.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
1000 USD to new members. free to others :p(joking)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
well u have lots of reading if u want to find out whats going on.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
only internal betas. we dont give u s***. we give u the good stuff.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. there were so many of them :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
i am now :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. whoops. hope u have a spare keyboard.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
I have replace the key and now have a callus..................[/QUOTE]

nice. how about use a touchpad.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. no we will send oli on u then :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
and most likely broke it even more :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
actually makes them a bit over since u all will have manilla. manilla is basically only for vga right now.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
its never good to rush. dont expect it eather. will come faster then :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. u have learned what i have a while ago. its impossible to make everyone happy.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
the beers part we taught it to buy them for u actually and serve it too :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
it always does. i though u have learned that by now.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] ricoks:
Pawel, what do you do with your time?? i mean, like the last 3 pages of posts, were just you......... LOL
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
u have to adjust the sensitivity. also when u need not to use it have the app to turn it off(config app in final) handy and just turn it off and back on when needed. its 1 sec to turn it on and off.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
settings and others are in the icons on top. programs, settings, and help are the 3 icons on the top right in landscape.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
this is due to the customizations that run. vanilla will have a bit more bc it wont have those customizations running i believe(still havent finalized it)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
problem can be that tcpmp isnt made to utilize the new drivers. the payware one i believe is made to utilize them.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] gtm55:
rom, rom, rom, rom...

vodka, vodka

beer, beer, beer

ROM! ROM! ROM!

WHAT A DREAM...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] darkjedi:
Pawel,

Are you going to have any sort of "AthenaTweak" or similar? Much like there's "KaiserTweak" or "HermesTweak"?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yep. we are just working on the unlocker for the last week though to minimize the bricks. rom has been done for a week. config app is being tweaked a bit too.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
read please.....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
hehe. i am thinking about working for them. sidenote :hey htc if ur reading this, send me a application and i love to join the company.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
read please.... the unlocker/rom package.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
have to catch up. am really doing nothing since my end is done. just replying to everyones posts and thats it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. dont u just love dreams :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
read a few posts up. in other words... YES!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] darkjedi:
schweet :D I wasn't sure if you mean the config program as the tweak program :)

I'm just waiting for AP4.0 so I can finally review my device for the peeps at HoFo :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
2000 posts

when we reach 2000 posts then we ll get the rom.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
hehe. just posted a reply there :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
hmm. i dont think i will be that mean :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
you maybe not but oli is
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] darkjedi:
That's quite the bold statement to make there buddy.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. he aint that bad. atleast not to me :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
bold indeed.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] D1ab70:
Broadcomm

Hey Pawel, was you able to utilize the broadcomm stack I found that helmi modded? I noticed you didn't touch up too much on the bluetooth side of things.

And a solution for f5 key problems, just make a mortscript to do it instead.They have mortscripts for anything nowadays!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
But true ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
any news about touch cube for athena?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Okey... My turn.

"That's quite the bold statement to make there buddy."
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Yes, but Oli already hates me ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] gtm55:
i want my rom!

jamaica AP4
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] gtm55:
I'm in the mood for jokes tonight...

Maybe i'm too tired...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
go on about 160 posts for release
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
No! it was released about 160 posts ago. Did you miss it?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
goodnight to everyone, that includes oli i m going to sleep
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Goodnight. I'm going to stay awake until AP4 is released.

How long is it possible for a human to go without sleep?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] gtm55:
I think it's true, too much ROM it's no good for your health, so no more AP4 tonight
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
if he waits for the ap4 forever ......
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fards:
About 3months (after that you'll try anything to get your kids to sleep through the night)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
bt i was working on for a while. remember the issues in 19181? i tend to use the stock microsoft stacks though. they are the most recent and are starting to become real good.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
nope. slither has been quiet lately. :(
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol i dont think u have to do that for too long :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. sucks that u had to find out :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] ricoks:
MEAN!!!!!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Wait til you have kids - then you'll find out ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fards:
tell me about it our first was a "hyper-alert baby" didn't sleep for longer than 15mins at one go, and screamed the rest. Thankfully, we found a way around it, white noise never sounded so good....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] responderman:
I did try one from a guy in hungary that was very good in vga
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
hehe i know. hanging onto every minute i dont have to though :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
hmm if u find it, send it to me.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
ouch. if i have that problem i'll message u for the instructions on the solution :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] D1ab70:
so there was no way to fix that stack hmmm.I was able to do a registry fix to the serial com port because it was set to com5 the gps port, so I changed the gps to another port (I have limited skills at those things lol) I was quite confused that it changed over settings but that only happened if u did a reset with the stack on, I solved that by turning stack off 1st then resetting.Pawel, helmi wasn't able to shed some light on it? he modded to work on universal after all.There was also talks of the ks20 having a newer version of that stack and I believe someone extracted the files.Im curious to know if its confirmed that broadcomm works at all on wm 6.1?

p.s As for the disconnection issues I believe they are fixable by messing with the baud rate.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] responderman:
http://www.tolna.net/~szabika/wm/step.htm

Try this, its easy to set up and runs smooth on a universal not tried on athena
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] adamelphick:
Guess no AP4 Today again then?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] responderman:
Nope! they cant get the onlocker to run trouble free without risk to athena bricking if you go wrong. at least thats how I understand it. it will come im sure.

Be happy

Jay
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Powell,

The reason we need a new unlocker is that PK4 is too big. Would the vanilla version be small enough to be able to install without a new unlocker?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] darkjedi:
He has stated that it might but they havent tested it so they dont know.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
should have...

Should have jumped on IRC the other night. This unlocker issue seems like it may not even be doable. I consider myself enough of a detail person not tto brick, and if I do that's my problem innit?

On the other hand, I'm also considering just going back to the HTC stock rom, which is tiny and pretty darn fast.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] automoveis:
that´s right!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] responderman:
The grass is always greener on the other side, The cooked ROM is always better than the shipped one.

The times I flashed my old universal for the "BETTER" one. after all that its sat here with a shipped rom on it:rolleyes:. The ap 4.0 sounds great but just remember how pleased you were with the shipped one on it, when you first got your athena.

If any of that sh*t make sense? LOL

Jay
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] dheerajjuneja:
Which stock version is faster than ap3