yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Mrsums:
I have followed this thread with much amusement. I completely understand the above comments, but they are clearly made from the pov of someone who has not read all 126 pages. For those of us who have, it is absolutely clear that there are NO off-topic subjects here, with the possible exception of anything to do with the release of AP4 which as someone pointed out many (many!) pages ago has its own release thread - locked until something actually happens.

So until it does, please keep posting here, I have learnt so much about Polish beer and even more information than I think I need on certain people's personal lives.

The thread clearly now has a existence all of its own bearing no relation to either the heading or indeed real life. I wish it well. Someone (even more pages ago) even quoted Dante - so maybe the heading of the thread should be changed:

"Abandon all hope, ye who enter"

Bless you all - we (who have no lives outside this thread) salute you
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rdosti:
I think after 4.0, the developers like Oli and others need to think about something mentioned 2 posts above.

1) Share the knowledge with other programmers or developers so even they can do stuff without everyone wanting just Oli or thinking only Pawel can do something...

2) True the the words - this is a community not a trade system, where everyone looks at just a couple of guys/girls for everything. Time to Share.

I think the Keyword here is Sharing...

Sharing Information (so people don't say awful things), Sharing Information (teach others what you know so we can be less dependent), Sharing Information (each one teach one)...no seriously. I think this needs to be looked at.

Say one day two or three top leading developers say "Hey Im moving to a new company or something and I dont have time anymore" (or godforbid an illness takes control)....everyone panics and 2 months later a developer says "What the hell..I better learn things and start now.." So for 2 months or so Xda-Developers thread (not just Athena but others) ends up dead silent...

I really think this needs be looked at by lots of people and some interested programmers need to stepup and talk to the "Gurus of Today" to get integrated to share and keep the knowledge flowing (hardware & software).

I totally agree that the threads to help out and give knowledge to the end user , but I'm focusing on sharing the wealth of knowledge with Programmers as well. It's time to go past developer and end user. This is a DEVELOPERS forum (& User) ... maybe we need to open a thread where 100 developers get together and teach other things...I'm not saying the current programmers are at fault - THEY ARE NOT.. im saying NEW young developers need to stepup to the plate and learn and create...have you seen the O2 Executive / JasJar thread...developers are shooting at the speed of light...when those devices came to the market they were around 1000$ USD as well...lets not get carried away thinking Athena's super costly so there are less programmers.

BACK ON TRACK:

Hows the rest of the package/ing going....

Regards,
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] :
hi,

after 2 months and 1264 posts, i have doubts about the AP4.0 availability...

sorry, itxda :(

i unsubscribed from this thread, now... Within one months later i'm to renew my subscription...

regards
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] enthusio:
Thats it! I've had it! No MORE!!!

I'm so mad now I cannot sit over here and take this CR&P any longer! I've done everything in my power to try to be understanding, keep my opinions to myself and try to be supportive and polite!. :mad:

I have never in my life felt so betrayed, lied to, cheated and just plain fluked around as I do right now!! I'm at the point of doing someone some serious bodily harm!!:mad:

This (%$#^& barman just brought me the 4th warm beer in a row and if he will just turn his 6'8" back to me for one second I'm going to flip him the bird - that's if no one else is watching and I'm sure he wont see it in the reflection in the mirror - LOL:p

Anyway enough of my serious problems - whats up with PK 4.0 team? I've been on a business trip to Thailand for 10 days and haven't the guts to read the 40 million posts here:D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
Let then have a break.I trust them that they will release this ROM as soon as they can.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] enthusio:
I take it the ROM's not ready for release yet?:confused:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
ROM is ready but the unlocker is missing.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] andylivz:
Well i don't know about everyone else but i've been watching this forum night and day since thursday hoping the rom will be released, and yes i have felt frustrated that the promised release date wasn't met, but the final product will be worth waiting for and considering for most people it will be a free upgrade for their device, why are people even wingeing.

We all know as they say "**** happens" so lets leave the AP team to sort out whatever problems they have and wait until one of the AP Team actually gives us a status update.

Slanging matches don't help anyone and aren't productive so lets all just be patient and wait until the AP team updates us all with info.

If anyone thinks they can do what olipro can then why not offer help!

Lets all hope things get sorted and ROM is released soon!

Yours hopefully

Andy
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] enthusio:
Thanks for the info martynovak ! I read only the two previous pages and the forum sounded like it needed a bit of de-stressing if you now what I mean...:cool:

Cheers Harry
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
whats the status about unlocker or release?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Oli has some personal problems at the moment. i'm surte he'll be back on the case as soon as he can but, for now, we just have to be patient.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
Oh thats not good.I hope i will be everything OK Oli.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
I talk to Oli and cmonex.They need some time.So please give them one or two days to do it.Dont write here.When it will comes you will know about it.If we will write whats the new every 15minutes it for nothing.So lets wait.

AGAIN PLEASE DONT POST ANY QUESTING ABOUT THE STATUS.IT WILL COMES WHEN IT WILL BE READY(1-2 DAYS).THANKS
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
lets be safe and say next friday that way they don't feel rushed ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Mrsums:
Great - can we get back to the beer discussions now?

btw its 3:15pm in UK at the moment, so beer is a dream rather than an actuality for me
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
If I were them, I wouldn't even put a time on it. As it still seems that people forget that they are going through personal issues at the moment. Please ladies and gents, quit putting a time frame on it and let them deal with their personal problems, which obviously is more important.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] charon72:
To pass the time while we wait...

How about a friendly WISH-Killer game.

Rules are simple, I make a wish, next post fulfills it in a twisted way so wish is pointless and that person makes a new wish, and so on and on and on....

I wish i had the patience of a snail trying to get the the top of a tall tree.......
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
I wish that tree was on fire.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] charon72:
hehe

I wish for a matching set of Asbestos underwear to keep the flames away..

And, then i wish for a cold beer.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
I wish the asbestos undies made you itch as if u had crabs. lmao
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] charon72:
Rofl it properly will :)

thats the sacrifices one has to make.

well seriously, just trying in a feeble way to lift the mood a bit, waiting for the AP4 seems to have driven me a bit closer to the edge.

makes me feel a bit Lemming'ish.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
I'm off to Belgium for a few days - last week my Belgium colleague introduced me to what he claimed was the best beer in the world - Le Fruit Defendu.

I am not inclined to disagree with him, although I will have to introduce him to my favourite English beer, Hobgoblin, which, strangely enough, tastes even better chilled!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fards:
well at some point I need to head home, but it's been quiet today at work so I went for a pub lunch, and am feeling more like a nap before I go home.. ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
Safe trip bud, and don't drink too much.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Thank you, but why did you have to go and spoil it by saying

;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
@ltxda

Thanks for your thoughts. You can count me in for continuing feedback when the ROM is released. I must admit I became sort of addicted to this forum. Don't know why though... :cool:

Mabury
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
xda's a hell of drug!!! lol... I must admit too, I've gotten pretty addicted to the forums myself, but this is how it is for me with all new hobby.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
a contacts question for AP4

I do not recall seeing this on my Kaiser running any of the WM6.1 variant roms, But on my Athena on the Mystery WM6.1 rom I am currently running there is a problem with addresses not showing in contacts. Can any of the AP team confirm this is not an issue in the AP4 rom.

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
I also have this problem
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
Hey irus, what is the rom you are running, The version I am running was obtained from another thread in our forum. it looks like a rip from a TMO based device and I believe there was missing xip components as identified in that thread) I would expect that is the likely cause and probably common only to that rom but I am trying to get a better feeling on this.

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] bharatrit:
good morning

good morning , has the rom released ????
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Hello. Would you mind posting this to a new thread or posting it to the thread where you got the ROM from? This thread is already overloaded as it is and we want to keep as much relevant to the AP project and not go into off topic items or confuse issues with other ROMs. Thanks in advance for your understanding in the matter.

Also, I don't have any issues nor had them in 3.0 with contacts now showing up properly. Hope this helps.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
If you read even a few posts in this thread you'd know the answer to that. I am going away for a few days and I think the team have agreed not to release it until I get back ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Yea right. :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
Sorry, I considered it relevant to the AP4 rom since I was origionally asking the AP4 devs if they had seen this in the AP4 build (since AP4 is WM6.1 based you would not have seen it in AP3, as it is WM6.0 as far as I can tell). I will post no further comments on this subject.

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
What will I do...

When the ROM is finally released my main hobby nowadays will be taken from me. That is, watching Marbury slowly lose his marbles as promised released dates come and go.

Is it possible when the rom is actually released we could keep it from Marbury, and setup some sort of "Marbury Only" forum which is regularly updated with bogus release dates?

Sorry mate, just taking the piss, but couldn't help myself :)

Thanks for the update IT, many apps have issues with 6.1, including skype.

Olipro - we anxiously await your unlocker, although if past experience is any judge, it could be written for a five year old to use and we are still going to get the full flood of "help! I bricked my ameo!" posts...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eagle 1:
Yes, I would agree.. Marbury, one minute was asking for the rom..Next minute asking everyone to remain calm..next minute *****ing..next minute asking for the rom..then the next minute asking for the rom again..
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
wow this is getting tiring for me too. i would so love to release right now. oh well sorry everyone. im trying to get it released asap.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
exactly why we need to wait. he's trying to further reduce those posts. if only our athenas would transform and upgrade themselves :p or atleast we could make the unlocker install itself. still could be problems depending on the computer.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] chenfangliu:
Great!

I like it!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] flexedrubi:
hello , can anyone tell me whats new in 4.0 vs 3.0 .. and what is better on 3.0 vs windows 6 (thanx in advance)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
read the threads for 3.0 and 4.0
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
The difference is like owning Enron stocks and selling it before it crashed :p AP 4's a big improvement over AP 3 and 6 is what AP 3 was made from 6.1 is what 4.0 was cooked from.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] enthusio:
:confused: OK now I'm sure tootalk2000 has finally lost his marbles or I've just lost mine:rolleyes:

I think what you said was that AP3 was a faster version of winmobile 6 with some nice features from the touch dual etc and realVGA cooked in and AP4 will be based on winmobile 6.1 with some cooked in features of the new X7510 and features of the touch dual, polaris and realVGA and a load of other goodies and updated programs added. Not to mention a few things broken - eh, em Skype etc.

Or else you meant something like: "dsaflga car;,afgx gargx,ag xgg;qroixg rxgoi enron dsfsdlk stocks AP3 sdfsd;lf improvement" .... :D

PS: Sorry to hear about your loss 2Talk, made me count my blessings - keep smiling!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mw22:
Hi

Havent been in for a while

Is 4.0 out yet ?? any ETA

(sorry to bug)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] enthusio:
According to Pawel and itxda its ready for distribution but we are just waiting for the new Unlocker package from Olipro et al ... Any moment, second, hour, day, week, month now... :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] weaselcossey:
@ enthusio

Ever considered novels? (In reference to a post probably about page 127, the bar act.) 3 just couldn't bring myself to go back and find it and quote. Nearly quoted while i was there, but I just knew it would come up in the middle of some different conversation.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] enthusio:
:p Hi Weasel, actually I've half written two novels fact-fiction based so good guess ,eh, eh. I'm a new product developer/inventer by trade - overactive imagination + ADD :(

Don't have the technical savvy of the average user here but I try to bring the only thing I'm good at - or not - to the thread.

Man where is this thread going????:confused: SOmebody save us!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] weaselcossey:
I don't have the savvy either. The thread is too far gone. Wonder if anyone from say, kaiser forum, ever stumbles through here and thinks we're all a bunch of nutjobs. Wait a minute.......(couldn't find an appropriate smily)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] THE GZS:
Remember, I don't know, 50 to 80 pages back, when we discussed locking the thread, because it was turning into a glossy womens magazine with nothing but 99% bull**** :rolleyes:

Maybe we still should :cool: :eek:

This thread's purpose, I believe, was to suggest additions to the new ROM. Once the team had started actually cooking the ROM after the fist 30-50 pages, there was no real purpose to the next 82-102 pages :(

So lets lock the thread and start a new one called: "My little pony" (...you're right, I can't find a fitting smiley either)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
Lost my Ameo, I mean my mind, what makes you think that? (censored, censored, censored) I'm sorry what were we talking about, I lost my train of thought...lol. Dr. can you save me...hehe But you pretty much took my lame man's answer and mod it a bit but you were right on point. And thanks for the kind words, he is missed but he lives on in my heart. Always continue to count your blessings. :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yes i know we should of started a new one a while ago but oh well to late. lets just finish here :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mw22:
Shoo

This is the longest wait

Talk about everst

This is taking forever

But as usual it is normally worth the wait !!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mw22:
Little jack horner sat in a corner

at a plum pudding

sucked his thumb

and hey pulled out an AP 4.0 ROM !!!1

Sorry guys just passing the time

Sigh
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] AlexC_01:
Anciously waiting

Still waiting with my finger on the F5 Key :D

I cant wait to test this new diamond on my Ameo.

I love all the new things that are cooked here.

All credit for the AP team.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] erezj:
so can you please update when will this super expected ROM will be avilable to us?

why cant you release it like previous ones? ( normal flasher???)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
the new rom has new partitioning so the new unlocker is requiered.The ROM is ready.we are waiting for unlocker.It should today or tomorrow.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
No we can't provide an ETA. You must have missed my comments on this earlier in the thread ;)

This ROM is not like any other. We MUST patch the device in a specific way or the ROM will NOT install to your device. It will make the device unbootable. It simply won't work.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Nah man, I misunderstood then. My apologies. Reading this thread has made my eyes cross. ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] crazy cat:
Have i missed something? Will the AP4 Rom come today?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] beginner:
ITXDA

After install AP 4, should be possible to go back and install AP 3 or other starndards roms?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
No worries, I think I am blind in one eye now (oh no, I just had my eye closed) :P

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
You should be able to flash AP3 and other ROMs without a problem. The new SPL basically allows more "types" of ROMs to be flashed to the device. You'll find out more on this once we release. :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] auramae:
limping along...badly in need of a hard reset...device has been getting goofier by the day...trying to hang on until 4.0, but don't know if I'll make it...hate to do it twice!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
I'm not saying it will be released TODAY/TOMORROW or even this week but....

Olipro is picking up some "refreshments". He should be back soon and will continue to work on the new SPL for the Athena.

This SPL is very tricky and if not tested thoroughly could damage the device. The new ROM, without the new SPL, can also screw up the device badly so we're making sure we run into ZERO issues with this before it's released. Please note we're not dragging this along. The team wants this released as bad as you do. We want to get it into your hands YESTERDAY...but we want to do this safely. As an update, one device that we were testing on is currently bricked...really bricked...we can't even flash to it. The second device is experiencing no WiFi. These are two of the examples of flashing without a new SPL.

Thanks again for your continued donations and support in the project. We love this community!!!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] AlexC_01:
No sorry if you got the wrong idea, but i cant get myself away from that darned F5 key ;)

I dont know when it will be here, all i say is take your time guys.

It's a hell of a lot of work to get the things done that you do.

Respect.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] darkjedi:
I know I don't speak for the community when I say this, but take your time PLEASE! :) I'd much rather have a working device than a brick :) And again, THANK YOU for your efforts.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
everyone can u please read bac a bit as many questions have already been answered. use the search button also. many questions i see here are repeated.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
you never know. it'll be here soon though.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. try reading some of these posts late at night. been doing that sometimes when i stayed up late working on the rom.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
give the athena some beer. she must last. :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yes we will try to reduce the bricks. but u know some idiot will still brick :rolleyes:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] MDA3__CRO:
IMHO, it should be more than a good explanation for any itchy thread participant.

I am expecting my Ameo on this saturday, but it was not reason to wait with my 20 USD donation (Confirmation number: 5S2668657X4707939 , via PayPal). Thank you to all Athena Project team members for an exellent and hard work.

MDA3__CRO
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
Yah but is Athena old enough to have Beer? ;)

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] retroqwe:
everyone is old enough to drink beer, just not necessary old enough to buy it :-)

Alex
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
thanx for the donation.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
your buying the beer anyway. with its guts though it should be allowed a unlimited supply:p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
exactly. athena i would say though is both. i need to cook in the transformers addition so it could buy the beer though :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
Don't forget the teleport option, so I can send you a few when you're is in Test mode.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] vicinc:
I am waiting for the day when we will feed our athenas with beer and they will have an organic brain you can not flash but teach ..... it may not be so far...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Why? All people need to do is follow some basic instrutions. I can't imagne people bricking with he last unlocker and AP. :S
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Goatmaster:
Hey Pawel062 what bluetooth stack 4.0 using? I am interested because I am using a MBW-150 with my Athena now :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] retroqwe:
I have been checking the forum so regularly my wife is starting to recognize the site by the distinctive background colour...

last F5 of the day.. ..... now off to dream of a world without 136 page threads and AP athena beer .. it doesn't exactly fit in your pocket , its not cheap but is tastes good and is well worth the wait. :-)

alex