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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] FourWheelDrift:
Quick PCM Keyboard help please. I've posted on the official website but have had no response.

I installed the Keyboard to my storage card on my HTC P3600 and it worked fine I then tried to install the alternative theme posted on here but couldn't find the PCM Settings section, (Ok I didn't check the site on how to start the settings, do now) so thinking it might be a device/storage card installation problem uninstalled the keyboard and reinstalled to the device. The PCM keyboard is still visible as an option but no longer works. I get it on my keyboard menu but when I choose it I still have the default HTC keyboard. Resorting back to a storage card installation doesn't work either.

I uninstalled and removed the folder what Regedit settings need to be removed as well.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joebaggg:
anyone know if they can make the keys a little smaller for this skin? i dont have a clue how too... i dont like when it takes so much of the screen up. awsome keyboard tho!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 2manyphones:
The keys are graphic files that need to be changed to make the skin smaller. I would look around for other skins, as there are plenty that are smaller.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joebaggg:
actually i had to delete this app... it had a memory leak for me and dmolished my phone to the point it whouldnt even turn on without it asking to restore default settings... guess it didnt agree with my other apps or sometihing
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Matvey V.:
2manyphones,

R-right...you could've at least said "no sorry, man, can't help ya out".

Whatever, man.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hotdog53:
Tap the 123 button to get ? and/or !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 2manyphones:
I'm not sure how you are getting that look :confused:. I would make sure you download the skin and layout files from post 1 and make sure both are selected in the settings of the keyboard. Restart your device and see if you get the desired look - as the screen shots look on post 1.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] deedee:
Known issue with Trinity's, aka HTC P3600s, they sseem to have issues with alternate keyboards, best suggestion is to pick a new one immediately after a soft reset.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] FourWheelDrift:
Thanks, I'll give it a go.

I think I might end up doing a hard reset starting again and reinstalling everything I have as well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pure_energy1:
I love this skin.... I use it above any other keyboard app out there.

One question tho, I can't seem to find the _ (underscore)... where is it?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bootheresa:
Along with this where can the < and > be found? This is the best layout I've seen and I have tried them all. Nice work 2manyphones. Thanks, BOO
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 2manyphones:
I didn't put in the < > in this layout. You can try this thayout that I created in my last thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1990164&postcount=131

The _ key is accessed by pressing and holding the - key on the symbol page - see the screen shots on post 1.

Thanks for your comments! Glad you like the skin. :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pure_energy1:
Wow, cool. My bad. lol...

To say that I like this skin is an understatement, I LOVE this skin. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] saturnine:
2many, this is a beautiful skin. I've already fallen in love w/PCM keyboard & learned how easy it is to customize the layout, but I was still wishing the keys were a bit larger & didn't want to take the time to learn to skin.

I changed a few of your layouts, but for the most part yours were more thorough & thought out than mine.

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hotdog53:
In case you haven't figured this out yet, the underscore _ key is found by tapping the 123 box, next to the asterisk(*) at rhe top, & the > < is found by tapping the 123 box, and then by tapping the arrow up key to the left of z, and you'll see the >< to the right of the arrow up key.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LycanNyc:
iPhone skin ftw
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] coney718:
I'm using the PCM with the black iphone skin. I love the skin but I cannot find the ( ) keys. Its not under symbols. I need those to make my smileys :-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 2manyphones:
If you are using the layout from post #1, it is on the pop up from the comma key. See the screenshots.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jomo25:
So, I'm not going to claim I made any major improvements on the attached. As a matter of fact, the skin files are unmodified in any way. I use the color one now, and used the plain one before. Both were developed by the good community of people here. I know the plain one was one of the original ones that spawned this thread by TooManyPhones himself. So, I appreciate their efforts.

The Layout file is my slightly modified version. Again, I didn't apply rocket science to it, but I did tweak the positions of some things and moved some of the items around.

You can use this layout as it is with either of these skins attached. But, I'm posting it mostly to give some ideas to others on how to tune the layout for their specific tastes. So, some of the simple tweaks I made:

Tweak 1: I changed the "pop up" number order to put 0 first. Since I use Google Maps alot. And I have GPS. "0" in Gmaps always return the screen to your current position. So, I search, find something, but then want to return to my position. having to touch and hold number, then slide all the way to the right is kinda hard one handed, esp if your screen is not flush like the Touch models. This way, the touch/hold defaults to 0, much easier if I'm doing something else like operating a vehicle, though of course i never would try this in real life.

Tweak 2: I re-ordered the "." symbol popups to suit my taste. I put the ones I use most closer to the default position. E.g -, ?, !, _ are all closer as I use them more.

Tweak 3: I put dedicated parentheses buttons on the symbol page. And then I put popups for all my smileys. And i positioned them so the most common smileys :) and :( are the default ones for ) and ( respectively. Plus, I even grouped them as "joyous" to "bothered" accordingly. Makes them easy to find and not have to remem which are where. Happy ones are with ) and bothered ones are with (

Tweak 4: Made the default popup for the IE icon to be .com. and switched the orders of others again to optimize/minimize finger travel.

Tweak 5: And this one could be considered unsafe, but, I put my IDs as popups under the space bar. Cuz I got tired of having to key in my ID and PW in sites. This makes it so much easier. You could even do you PWs, but then do at your own risk. You can see it in the file and modify is you want to do this.

Anyways, again, I'm just building off the great start provided to me by 2Many...But thought I'd give some ideas on how to improve it even further for your own personal tastes.

All you have to do is modify the .layout file with Notepad and copy it to your PCMKeyboard directory.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hotdog53:
PCM is my default with the 2many skin and layout. Great skin!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djkamii:
I have a HTC Tytn. The phone wont allow me access to the pcm keyboard options under the input. I get this message when i hi the options button "POCKETCM keyboard has to be the current SIP in order to configure it."

Please help???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] coney718:
im using this layout

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1718149&postcount=26

I pressed and held almost every button and did not see () in anything
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hotdog53:
bypass input in settings and tap on the little triangle beside the keyboard. You may have to install the sip change pgrm.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 2manyphones:
Download the layout file from post #1 and use that (select in settings) with the black skin. That will give you the same look, but with the () pop up from the comma key.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] parrot5:
This is the best keyboard that I've ever used! The original PCM Keyboard keys are too small, but it is more responsive than the TouchPal (on my Touch Enhanced anyway), while the TouchPal has more functionality. Your keyboard layout combines the best of both worlds! Thanks for your contribution to the WM6 world :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 2manyphones:
Thanks! Glad you like the skin. Now if someone at Microsoft would just pull their head out and realize they can produce an OS with components that make WM devices easy out of the box.... ;)

jomo25, nice job on your tweaks. That is the whole point of this thread is to make the keyboard work the best for you. :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cferd:
Wow. This is so cool.

Hello guys.

Thank you 2manyphones for an outstanding job in helping PCM keyboard become truly great, and also thanks jomo25, I'm using your tweaks and loving it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hotdog53:
Do you have a yellow and or orange skin for the PCM keyboard?

English layout
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] adidas4275:
this keyboard doesnt play nice with opera mobile...

it type letters with spaces between it.... really annoying.

like this " h e l l o , w h i c h m a k e s i t i m p o s s i b l e t o l o g i n t o w e b s i t e s"
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theelite:
try using the non-beta opera mobile 8, it works fine.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] freddex:
What a great job. Cheerio!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LycanNyc:
But where's the real iPhone keyboard ???

Nobody has done that same skin + Layout yet?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LycanNyc:
This is the real iPhone keyboard pictures taken with my TOUCH to my iPOd Touch =)

This is the skin that I want
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 2manyphones:
This is close as I have come (using graphics extracted from my iPhone ;))

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=349647
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rippimpc:
Is this layout and skin compatible with the new PocketCM Keyboard v0.14?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wmdunn:
Yes it is...works great.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cincy1020:
Hi:

Thanks so much for the amazing skin. I am using the 2manyphones layout, with your iphone black skin, since there is no black version of this skin. I was wondering if you will be integrating the new features of version .14, such as the 2 gesture support.

Thanks again!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WMguy:
I'm hoping auto-suggest gets fixed in V14 as the keyboard is unusable to me without that feature...:(

V13 with 2many's skins was the BEST!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theduke81:
keyboard like a phone

Hi,

Is it possible to have a keyboard like a phone ?

To be able to send sms as before ?

I found all qwerty keyboard a bit to small and using a 10 buton keyboard was quite quick ?

To know if it is possible to create on PCM keyboard or is there already another software ?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mugglesquop:
there is a standard keyboard that comes with Windows Mobile 5 (unsure about 6) that looks like a phone dial pad.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theduke81:
For my device, in wm5 or wm6, I had just the normal qwerty keyboard.

Is there a way to have a phone keyboard ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 2manyphones:
Thanks again :) I hope it gets fixed myself. I know tene is busy, but I agree that this problem makes the new version (14) worse than the previous (13). Too bad we can't install 13. :(

To "theduke" if I understand what you are after, you want a number pad that allows you to do multi-type SMS entry? Meaning you hit 2 key three times to get a C, twice on the 3 key to get an E. While I'm not sure why you would want to go to that, the 12 key HTC Touch keyboard does basically that. Do a search or look in the sticky for the OEM HTC files. I have not seen a PPC keyboard that specifically emulates a "phone" keyboard, however. PCM keyboard only supports one key press for one button, not including the pop up gesture options.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mikkelnl:
Anyone else noticed that when using 2many's iphone skin+layout, the suggest-box for contacts (when you start typing a name in the 'TO' field in an email for instance) shows up partly offscreen? The top of the suggest-box appears to high / outside the top of the screen.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theduke81:
Thanks

That is what i am looking for I have found Phonepad.cab.

It is a shame that it is not so easy to find juste that sort of keyboard :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Andre Koster:
Dutch version AND very useful enhancement

As I was making a Dutch version for myself, I came up with the following idea. In Eng 2many.layout, the capitol letters are available as alternatives under the normal low caps letters. I have used that same array to add:

- letters with accents

- symbols

- shortcuts

So tap-and-hold 'e' will now show 'E ë é è ê € &', while 'n' gives 'N ñ .net .nl'. The capitol letter is still always the default, though.

Because I put the symbols where they can be expected from how they are pronounced or what they mean, and even added some redundancy, it's extremely intuitive. E.g. '&' ('ampersand' in Dutch) I put both under 'a' as well as 'e', since it means 'and' which is 'en' in Dutch. In the same line of reasoning, the '$' is both available at the letter 's' and 'd'.

Since this creates a lot of extra space, more other symbols and shortcuts could be added:

- more symbols: < > [ ] { } ^

- the main currency signs

- more domains

- more smileys

Anyway, see for yourself. I only made a Dutch version (which equals a US keyboard btw), but I think the idea can easily be integrated in the versions for other languages.

Andre

p.s. On the numerical pad, I changed the order of the number rows from phone-order to keyboard-order (so 1-2-3 is at the bottom, not at the top). For me, conceptually this is a keyboard, not a phone pad.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] caballero600:
can anyone make a layout just adding this letter Ñ (not holding N ...please...) for spanish people?? it's only one more letter than english ;)

thanks in advance!!

edited: If anyone can't do it I will use the german version before this post, it's useful.. Thanks Andre Koster!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] caballero600:
I have made (more or less) a combination of this skin in "blues" so match my touch skin:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fredcatsmommy:
I've not read about the problem I keep having with PCMKeyboard- mine keeps disappearing as an alternative keyboard. It's installed to the device. After installation I use SIPChanger to pick it as the default; after a few uses and a soft-reset, the default Keyboard becomes the default and PCMKeyboard is not an option to pick. Anyone else experience this and have a solution?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] suk72:
Are you using cleartemp or some other cleaning program?

For some reason pcm keyboard lists as a dead sip.Just uncheck it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] volwrath:
Are you suggesting to uncheck searching the dead registry as in MemMaid
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] suk72:
No just dead sip.

I dont know if memmaid removes dead sips in the registry part.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] volwrath:
I've had the same problem trying to alternate between touchpal & PocketCM as fredscatmommy, and I thought that memmaid might be the problem. It has caused me to stop using pocketcm because I cant reliably switch to it. I do not think that memmaid has a dead sip cleaner but could be wrong. I shall look through the cleaning options a little more.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fredcatsmommy:
I use memmaid and pocket mechanic. If you find the problem, please post it. I'll do the same.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] suk72:
Maybe in the registry cleaner it has a bad install setting?

Might be what you need to look for.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] WMguy:
Well, I uninstalled PCM and won't use it again until it gets fixed. Wonder what happened to the developer? Too bad too because once I heard the time limit was no more, I was gonna donate until I discovered the auto suggest issues..:(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aberz:
Well done man !

The 2nd keyboard ( numeric and symbol ) is very creative.

Beat the **** out of iphone keyboard.

I followed this instruction from All The Way and get pcm keyboard work perfectly with the newest dutty's rom on my Kaiser.

You can skip the rom part

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2103791&postcount=374

Also , go to sipchange ,select PCM keyboard.

If you want to use this skin , just copy the files inside the zip to the keyboard 0.14 folder inside program files.

Then go setting > input , select PCM keyboard > option . Keyboard layout : Eng 2many . Keyboard skin : 2many

In the end , do a soft reset just to make sure.

Hope it helps
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] volwrath:
Ill do it.

Edit: after reading pocketcm's forum, I was able to get the keyboard to show up by disabling my today screen plugins, which includes spb mobile shell which i suspect is the culprit. I then re-enabled the plugins and it is still working...interesting.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tcatnat:
Thanks 2manyphones. I just gouch my Sprint Touch yesterday and this has eliminated my first frustration. My only issue is the <> signs. I followed your instructions in the other post but they still do not show up when holding down the spacebar. Performed a soft reset and it looks like I have all the correct files selected.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Andre Koster:
I included the <> symbols in my version, see my posting up here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2090914#post2090914

If you don't like my layout (it's an adapted US-keyboard), you can always copy-paste my solution.

Andre
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efi:
2many skin with 2many layout

Hi,

I just want to say that you did an amazing job with the skin and the layout. no doubt the best keyboard skin!!! :)

Thank you and keep up the good work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efi:
Black 2many skin

BTW,

Is it possiable to post this skin (2many.skin) with a different color? (black or dark gray)

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LycanNyc:
Any new skins lately ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sala91:
I bet you know the skin HTC Touch for this PCM keyboard. I like the way buttons are put there. Cloud you do skin like that, only for i pone? And pls remove that thing when you press letter it provides chance to choose big letter. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] iggy:
Nice work Andre and Caballero600.

Just one issue Andre when I choose Caps the Accented letters are not available.

Edit: also is it possible to add other characters (smilieys for example) to the TAP and Hold on the Number key when in Number Keyboard, right now it just brings up numbers (seems to be redundant)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Fla Chuck:
Excellent!

This is a great improvement over either the stock keyboards available on the Touch or the basic skins that come with the PCM Keyboard. I'm moving my wife to a Touch (looks like) 'cause i want to completely break with VZN & our >$180 :eek: phone bill for a couple of $30 SERO plans with Sprint. Anyway, she was grousin' about moving from a true keyboard to the dinky, crappy virtual keyboards. And the keyboard was the only thing I didn't like about moving from my 700p to my Touch. This one not only works, it ROCKS! :D And I haven't even gotten around to customizing it. Yet...

The only complaint I have with this thread is the lack of detailed directions for WM newbie idiots like myself. So, for anyone else who wants to install this and doesn't know how, here are the step-by-step instructions: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1715797&postcount=10. Piece of cake. ;)

Great work, & THANKS!! :cool:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] open_source:
thank you for your work, i just did my first steps and it's amazing,

there's only one thing that i cannot get/fix,

if i hold the i button, î and i pop up above. My problem is that î is pre selected, allthough this would be the letter i never ever use.

the same problem occours with e, u etc.

the next thing i just don't understand is, if i hold the N button

a row of numbers occours

is it just a layout problem i can fix for myself or even a feature?

thanks

Florian
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 2manyphones:
If yours is not displaying the way the screen shots look on post 1, I would go into the PCM Keyboard settings and make sure the "Eng 2many" layout is selected. Then restart the phone. If you are using one of the other layouts posted in this thread, I would PM the person who posted it to see if it is something to do with their layout.

Glad you like the look. :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] drzchulo1010:
hey would it be possible to make a green skin?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] open_source:
hm...there was something messy with the german layout i tried,

allready pm_ed the author, yours is working excellent!

thank you very much!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stuartforrest:
All I can say is thanks. I have been using PCM for a while on my Touch Cruise and it was making my phone acceptable as I prefer a hardware keyboard really but this is a huge improvement. I am very grateful.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] t0t0_b0y:
Any VGA skin? I'm using imate ultimate 9502 and i can't get the skin to work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xda-addict:
Hello, can you make an iPhone skin for Fingertouch PRO please?

It's far better then PCM and I would like to use it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] iTouch24:
i was wondering if there was a layout which would work like a treo keyboard with a hack installed ...

with my treo i would hold a letter for example ... q then it would cycle through ... q , 1 , Q ... u could set the seconds on how fast it would cycle and u could set the way it cycled through...

instead of switching screens and tapping and holding and sliding finger...

just make each button do multiple things....

any ideas...

woudl any of the skins in the original thread work with the eng 2many layout ...?

or u have to use the one that is the zip file

If you prefer black keys with white letters, got to this post:

http://xdaforums.com/show...9&postcount=26

If you like some color in your keyboard, try this version:

http://xdaforums.com/show...1&postcount=21

Layout file with ( ) that pop up from the "." key:

http://xdaforums.com/show...3&postcount=46

HTC Touch Style Skin, with help from Kin0Kin:

http://xdaforums.com/show...08&postcount=2
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] porkythe5th:
???!!!

i have a quick question, i need help.

i'm new to pocket cm keyboard and was wondering if anyone could give me instructions on how to install pocket cm, along with different keyboard skins?

i have tried but i honestly dont know what i'm doing :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Martinhdk:
Use GOOGLE and go to the PCM webpage....