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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
They make very big mistake on Note 7. Then now also on Note 8. I feel like my days with Samsung is not far away lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] maybeonly:
It's a much smaller mistake on Note 8.

I think it can be easily fixed by an update from Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Geekser:
Use the Phone Info AP to learn the original CSC or what region the phone originated in - it should say there - from what I think I have learned - you need a SIM CARD from that region in order to get the OEM unlock to be there....

crap -
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] force70:
I doubt its a mistake more by design.

It was only a matter of time before they started locking down the exynos versions given how things have been progressing on that front.

Believe me I hope Im wrong

sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
Gold? Really? Clove has gold. I opted for black.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
I hope so. We need to wait and see how they will address this issue. Could be new tatic for locking Exynos devices in near future.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
Sorry, that's just not the case. I have an Australian SIM card with an Australian CSC (VAU) and I don't have the OEM Unlock option, so your hypothesis is wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] force70:
I was gunning for the Korean version but i did check out clove too.

sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
this issue is like the underground railroad where everything related to rooting is unseen by the usual Joe Blow. I mean eveything is working on the device as intended. So we can't really say there is an issue. What sucks is we shelled out 1k+ because our carriers have the Qualcomm chip and we wanted to get root plus recovery. We are a small minority even at that because whitin the 1%(figuratively speaking) there are people without that damn OEM unlock option.

I was this close to ordering the device from the UK. I cheaped out and choose ebay.

lesson learned.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Geekser:
You are the first I have heard like that so sorry, if I was wrong...when you say you have an Australian CSC - I assume you mean you purchased the phone in Austriala from the provider you own the sim card from? Or at the very least you purchased a phone that was intended by Samsung to be used in Austrailia? (not just flashed an Austrailian CSC) Correct? One more question - is the N950F/DS or N950F (Single sim?)??
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
this horror story is sadly pretty wide spread.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
I also have an Australian SIM with an Australian CSC (TEL) and I don't have the OEM unlock option. Single SIM SM-N950F. Just to add.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
I have created a thread over at Samsung's dev forums regarding the issue. i find it remarkable that google search results yeild nothing regarding the missing oem unlock feature. Im guessing the more we discuss and make the issue apparent the better chances we get an official explanation.

http://developer.samsung.com/forum/...boardName=SDK&messageId=323201&startId=zzzzz~

ive also opened tickets and called them.(sam signapore)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Geekser:
now even scarier as far as I am concerned - and bizarre - at first - it looked like those who had singapore phones but not singapore sims - had no OEM - then if they added a singapore sim - OEM unlock became available- but now - we have some phones that appear to be using the sim from the same region the phone was made for (or sold for) and yet, they don't have OEM - so what is the trigger?

is there a consistent way to know which phones are not effected? or some way to buy one and be sure you will get OEM Unlock? (buy a phone in an area that consistently has OEM - and get it activated on a local sim card from that area first? Seems like that is the only real way to know for sure....?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
when was the Aussie official launch date again?

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one of my hypothesis regarding correct carrier/region/device combo was that the time was a trigger.

people reported that anything around a couple of days to 1 week had made the option appear from nowhere.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
Our launch date was September 22 (Friday) which is when I got mine.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
id say give it a few days. atleast yours was bought using one of the official channels.

ebay buyers like me are the ones truely screwed.( for now at least).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
I believe the official launch date was the 21st of Sept. So I went back into Developer Options to check the validity of your time trigger hypothesis and...

...now that the 21st has passed, the OEM Unlock option is there!

I think you're definitely onto something with your theory, but only time will tell. (pun intended)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ihaveaphone:
Holy Smokes. So we now have an Australian with the unlock option on their phone.

I just checked mine and nothing for me. But this is a very promising development.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
This might just be a coincidence but I booted up my Note 8 for the 1st time exactly a week ago. That might be the time trigger.

Can anyone confirm or disprove this theory?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ihaveaphone:
That sounds like a good theory :) I started using mine on Wednesday, so I can't confirm anything for a couple more days.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
keep us updated!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
I highly recommend that everyone who didn't have the OEM Unlock option before should now check again to see if it's there. Like me, people tend to check once and then not check again, not realising that it might appear after a week of using the device.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] fungamerzone:
Yea keep ya fingers crossed, since another member said this function mysteriously appeared a week later. Lots of frustrations and speculations meantime. The real answer lies with the marketing team and engineers of samsung. Stock n8 is already pretty decent and stable. Imagine what xda developers cld further enhance it :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
I've checked mine again and no dice, Telstra phone (TEL) with no OEM unlock (as yet).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
How long have you been using the phone? My OEM Unlock option appeared exactly a week after 1st boot.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
I got mine on 18th as well and after a week still no oem. Using kogan sim and updated to latest firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
What time on the 18th did you 1st boot it up and go through the setup process?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
around 6.30 pm, I will check and report back after 6.30pm. I hope I will get it. finger crossed :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
At 7pm, do a reboot and check for the OEM Unlock option. If it's there, that would seem to add major weight to the current hypothesis that it appears exactly a week after 1st boot.

*Don't worry, rest of the world. The Aussies will get to the bottom of this. ;) *
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xxx42069:
Lol congrats man. Interesting development indeed. One has to wonder why Samsung would do this? Regardless, what are you still doing here? Get rooting. :p
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
Samsung is following Xiaomi, What Xiaomi do they also lock your bootloader and you need to wait for 3 days and after 3 days it gets unlocked via Xiaomi software. I think they give chance to users to use the mobile without root so users can have some experience to live without root and if they like they will not root (this is my idea lol). If mine also gets unlock option today then its almost certain that a week is needed to get the option else there is some other pattern to get the option

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Sure mate lets hope for the best, I will try my best to get the option lol. I was thinking to return it back to Samsung and get other from eBay international sellers but now there is some hope.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xxx42069:
Interesting, but what would be the purpose behind doing that? Just seems kind of pointless. All it has gotten them is the anger and frustration of their customers. Why does Xiaomi do that? Why would Samsung follow their lead? Maybe they think the item would be tougher to resell if the customer unlocks the bootloader and then decides they don't like it and want to return it. Maybe it's like a trial period to make sure the customer likes it and will keep it before letting them do that? Just guessing, that's all I can think of. How much longer you got until you check yours? The wait must be killing you.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
In my view, I think they give chance to users to use the mobile without root so users can have some experience to live without root and if they like they will not root. Like in my case I am using Samsung Pay and I am really liking it with other banking applications which never worked on rooted phones. I agree, maybe they are making sure that they get more Knox counter 0 devices back (if someone wants to return them)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
Is there anyone using Singapore M1 telico Note 8 with available oem unlock option?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] kenpaci:
So now you dont have oem option?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
Yes, Mine is pre-order M1 telico set. Received it on 11-9-2017. Oem unlock option is still missing. Just now I was able to chat with Singapore samsung device support tech. According to him it's bad news for Singapore telicos users. But I have saw some Singtel users got oem unlock option available in their phone. Tech guy from Samsung even request my model no and S/N. He told me to wait for their technical team to call me back. For troubleshooting or explanation...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
Just received call and email from Samsung. [emoji4]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] maybeonly:
Some people disabled google framework on a Singapore N950F/DS and got OEM unlock options.

Refer:

//bbs.gfan.com/android-9182275-1-1.html [Chinese]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] LongGer64:
Hi I am new here from Singapore. I bought the Note 8 a week ago from M1 and I am also using M1 sim card since day 1. I have no OEM unlock until now.

Hope this input helps.

Read somewhere that OEM unlock is control by Google?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] thanik:
Samsung called me back today and she told me there's no OEM unlock option too in their devices. So I asked when the OEM unlock can be used since other country units can use. She answered she will report this issue to the superior. No ETA :(

(For newcomers, I bought Note 8 in Thailand on Day One (22 Sep) from Samsung's official online store and activated it with Thai SIM card (DTAC as a carrier) and I still don't get the OEM unlock option. (I have already updated the device to latest.))
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] LongGer64:
Another piece of useful information. A buddy of mine bought the same Note 8 a couple of days earlier than me had the OEM unlock in the developers option. Unfortunately, he updated to the latest software yesterday. The unlock went missing. As for my case, I updated to the latest software from Sammobile after unbox and never seen the OEM unlock button in my hardware since. Could this be one of the reason? :(
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] demang:
Yep. OEM unlock function in my note appeared just now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Wow good news.. How many days after you first setup your phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] LongGer64:
Congrats!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] rocketmail.com:
Good to know. Where did you buy from, what network are you using and how long have you been using it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ultramag69:
XSA - Australia... Using Telstra Australia sim and a Kogan (Vodafone) Australia sim. I don't know how many ways I can say this, I'm using 2 sims - separately as it's a single sim model - that are Australian carriers in an Australian model phone. Not a grey import and not in another country.

The Information I gave WAS from the Phone Info app...

OEM Unlock seems to be gone for the foreseeable future...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
the part where you flashed a FW on day 1 is also something i suspect. Did the same thing and am starting to regret.

samsung sg replied back and they seem to understand now the issue and asked me to wait.

lets hope this is good news.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
They called me today. They've received a lots of enquiries and feedback for this issues and their technical team is following up on this issues. I asked about carriers lock or samsung lock, he told me that they don't have such plan and no carriers lock plan also because of Singapore law. Look like software issues and I guess they will released softwares fix as per their email.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] LongGer64:
Unless someone can upload the old fw that are able OEM unlock? So we can flash it with Odin.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] rocketmail.com:
I don't think that has worked , it's better we wait for update fix as promised per the email shown by an earlier post here.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] LongGer64:
Agree.

Let's hope that the update fix comes real soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Repulsa:
Hi . Ived been watching this thread and ived seen So many suggestion and some people trying to be "Smart"(eventho he/she doesnt own a note8 YET and telling people to do this and that (carefull now you dont wanna messed up something)..) and some other people keep telling "put a different simcard or whatsoever bull crap " anyways I preorder a note 8 . Turnit on without sim (setup). Went to developer and oem is there. I got a firmware update too and oem still there . Yea this is international and i purchased it from my carrier not samsung store.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] LongGer64:
Thanks for the advice.

Let's hope the update fix the problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] mlkemac:
There is some in depth discussion happening on 4pda in the note 8 section if anyone has a grasp on russian.

not sure if their links are allowed as its a known source of piracy
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
not much info on where your phone is from and where your using it.

the first thing i did when i got my signapore fone was to go in develloper options and OEM was not there.

what works for you dosent for the rest of us.

please give more information on your device next time. thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Repulsa:
Ived seen even some international having issue which i dont understand . Yea . Norway (telenor) no issue on oem
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
pretty sure samsung screwed up but hope they fix it.

i would be very interested after all this fiasco is resolved to have a clear explanation.

after the note 7 battery issue,i think they owe it to us.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
I said it way back. Handtec verified to me that even before they put a sim in and make a call OEM unlock is there, that is how it's been up to now from the time Samsung started the region lock at the behest of NA carriers. This information is well documented as the region lock isn't a new thing. Samsung's EEU region lock has nothing to do with OEM unlock and OEM unlock has nothing to do with Sammy's EEU region lock. A region lock prevents the phone from being used in other regions, locking the bootloader does not serve that purpose as the vast majority don't even know what the bootloader is and would use their phone anywhere and everywhere without ever knowing it was "locked". Of course an actual region lock like the EEU lock is going to do something that stops the show like the no working phone calls that Sammy uses with their EEU region lock, that's going to be a no go for most. Whatever else may be said about it this is not a region lock, it's a bootloader lock, there is a difference.

There is a fair bit of conjecture being presented as fact with no substance backing it up. I'm not calling everyone out here as most are just trying to find answers but there has been a vocal few who are spreading what may well be misinformation. If you're one of those, please stick with information that is strictly tested by you, observed on your actual handset, or in the case of information you have received from third parties, report it as is without any unsupported conclusions drawn from it. Phone support is notoriously unreliable and should not be considered proof until the real world adds some corroboration.

And no I'm not the forum police, not Captain Clever, just another guy that would like some answers. I'm not telling people what to do, I'm making a request. If we're going to get answers we need to try and stick with knowns and recognize that we need to test the unknowns and discard them if they don't hold water.

I quoted the above for emphasis, we can do better.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
I'm convinced that the ones with OEM unlock available are color specific! FACT! Black is the one to get ??
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MeltdownSpectre:
Hahahaha wild theory lol.

Orchid gray here and no OEM Unlock although this phone wasn't region locked (or so they say) and I didn't activate it with a Singaporean SIM card either.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
I have had two orchid grey, one from Singapore and Thailand. Both f/DS and both oem unlock unavailable.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
im gonna try putting 2 sims in my duos.

Unlock will come 2x faster!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
Best theory lol...[emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] nader1450:
samsung live chat:

that device note 8 after registered also dose not support OEM unlock

any idea?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
Livechat agents are dense.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
+1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
I'll be able to comment on that one come Friday. I've got a Telstra N8
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] demang:
XSA Australia bought from Samsung Australia, using kogan sim card. There was a firmware update last week and I counted on this but still no OEM Lock. Just yesterday after one week of use when I disabled and re-enabled developers option OEM was there.:p
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
Same here bought from Samsung Australia and using kogan sim also turned on my phone on 18th September with updating to the latest firmware but mine still doesn't have oem unlock option. I tried enabling and disabling dev settings many times but still no luck.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
Try doing a reboot.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] me_ashman:
Mine is a Virgin/Optus handset. Weird CSC. Anyone with Vodafone handset what's yours say?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
Go to Software Information in About Phone. Under "Service provider SW ver" the third line down should be your CSC (mine is VAU).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] me_ashman:
Yeah cheers. Forgot about that.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] kenpaci:
Ok guy's.. this is i do for get in back oem option, reset api limit and reboot, do it this 2 3 time's, work for me, hope its worked for you all, now i have it oem option button in developer setting
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Has_anDroid:
turkey note 8 no problem.......
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
Can you advise where that is sorry?

Edit: Found, duh...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
At the very bottom of developers settings.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gubbilo144:
Were did you get yours, what model do you have.Does anyone have one from clove UK that can confirm the one unlock option is there
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] TheUndertaker21:
Model N Korean and came from eBay.

Took 2 days to get here. The seller will ship fast if you ask

Blue and 256GB

1200+
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gubbilo144:
Do you have a link from the vendor you used on ebay, does your model have the oem unlock available under development setting s
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] galaxyluv:
Nope I'm in Canada so ordered it from PDA Plaza.. Its my first time ordering it from them so we'll see how it goes. They told me they were getting the UK version. :)

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From the posts in this thread. The UK version seems to have it according to people who have the UK. If I read right, the Singapore version didn't seem to have it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gubbilo144:
Want to order mine, could you provide which vendor u used on ebay, there tons want to make sure to get the same model you received thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
256gb so unnecessary ?

Sent from my S8+Rooted
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xxx42069:
Oh yeah I see that now. Still, this has taught me an important lesson about patience. I've cancelled my order and won't be reordering until I see a confirmed, stable root and recovery has been found and released.

That was my plan all along anyway, but I became impatient and just ordered assuming root would be easy and inevitable. I was wrong. Who knows what other surprises might pop up. Besides the longer I wait the cheaper this phone becomes. I've already seen as of today several listings on eBay that are reputable sellers selling the phone for less than MSRP. cheapest one I saw was $885 with free shipping, brand new. I see no reason to jump the gun again. I feel like I have nothing to lose and everything to gain by just waiting for now. But that's just me, to each their own.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Kalm_Traveler:
not sure which one they used but this is the one I bought from:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Samsun...var=541346895085&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

I ordered it around midnight on Wednesday morning and it was delivered from Korea Thursday at 11:45 AM just before noon. 36 hours from order to delivery from the other side of the planet is pretty sweet.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] gubbilo144:
Sorry to bother ya again, does yours have the oem unlock available in developers settings. I've been seeing some don't have the option available
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Kalm_Traveler:
Yes I posted a screenshot of my Developer options menu in another thread. I believe all the SM-N950N's (Korean model) have it, and also do not have any SIM locking.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] TheUndertaker21:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/182740331173