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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mad Medik:
[MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] [MENTION=3116388]jcsww[/MENTION]

Thanks for the help guys.

I don't want to prompt any argument and appreciate the input. I value having root on the device and losing it will result in a loss of some functions that I use almost daily such as being able to access gasbuddy on my in car navigation screen. On the other hand, I anticipate having VoLTE and VoWIFI will improve my routine use as Freedom Mobile coverage and penetration are still spotty in areas I routinely work in or pass through.

Opt1: Lock bootloader then flash H933 full KDZ. Device should then receive the carrier updates allowing VoLTE, VoWIFI to be activated, and there will be no problems with google pay, etc. I can use OTA or flash the KDZ files as new updates come out. Root is not possible with the H933 ROM so the functionality that comes with it is gone. If I want root again later, I downgrade to June or earlier, then follow the Frankenstein/WTF process.

Opt2: leave bootloader unlocked and flash the H933 full KDZ. Even though OS OTA updates won't work, I will still get the carrier updates to allow VoLTE and VoWIFI or will I need to find a file for those? As with option 1, root is gone so I will have problems with apps that require safety net pass like google pay because I will no longer be able to install Magisk. Is there a benefit to leaving the bootloader unlocked in this case?

I agree the ideal would be to stay with a rooted device and have the freedom mobile carrier functionality extracted and somehow patched over. Unfortunately, the H933 specific dev support is rare enough, nevermind one that focusses on Freedom Mobile specific features.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
You are either purposefully misunderstanding or you can't understand. The point on which you entered the discussion was on OTAs, which are completely unnecessary for US998. The person in that WTF bootloader unlock thread (note he posted there because he wanted to unlock his bootloader) was asking about OTAs. I was educating him that OTA is unnecessary with US998, since superior full image KDZ will always be available.

Also if you Frankenstein your phone to a different V30 variant, OTA may not be available since it doesn't match the IMEI expected. You jumped in and said I was misinforming people and wrongly encouraging bootloader unlock and root -- stating this IN the bootloader unlock thread where I wrote the GUIDE!

I urge people to stay away from partial image OTA update, let other people be the guinea pigs and later install full image KDZ if the update is something they want.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+

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If you do option #2 (with Canada 20f), but Uncheck the recovery partitions (using DL PARTITION mode with dev patched LGUP) you should have TWRP and can then root.

I'm downloading Canada 20f now to post to my Canadian KDZ thread. But you can download yourself from the link I posted.

Even though all the Canadian carriers use the same KDZ, does Freedom not post KDZ? If not, a little silly since it's the same KDZ. I see the others carriers listed, but not Freedom. But shouldn't matter.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
There is no argument. Chazz might take it to heart but I don't. What you decide to do with your device is up to you. After all, you are the one using it. VoLTE for some along with WiFi Calling are a must. In the end, you must decide what you would benefit from more and make the decision on whether giving up something for something else is the right choice for you. Personally, I value WiFi Calling but I know others don't. Although I don't use Freedom Mobile when in Canada. I can say that VoLTE and HD Voice on Telus are nice to have and give you the closest call quality to a high quality landline.

The only devices I see a lot of users have around here are the Galaxy S and Note phones. The W (Canadian) firmware has great band support and comes unlocked. With the currency conversion, it can be cheaper to buy one in Canada and take it south and easily enough, convert it to any US carrier firmware without root and unlocking the bootloader. The V30 being a lot less popular over all doesn't help development and user support, especially for smaller markets.

OTA's are a convenience that some people prefer over others. Rooted or not, my devices are all flash via full factory image. There are plenty of users though that prefer getting the OTA over having to flash something every month or so.

I don't consider an OTA over a full image superior one way or another. In both scenarios, something can go wrong. In both scenarios, the desired upgrade can be successsful in what it was intended to update and or fix. Whether a person wants to manually update or get their updates via OTA's is entirely up to them. Swaying them one way or another I don't feel needed or necessary. Trying to point out what someone that might not be considering what to some of us, would be the obvious, is solely intended to inform people to look at the big picture before they decide what they want to do, to make the best informed decision for them.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
Is it really freedom mobile specific though? I mean all 933 had/have VoLTE. I'm not sure about wifi calling but isn't the kdz the same across all 933?

Either way I would love to get back VoLTE and HD Voice. If I could get wifi calling on bell that would be a cherry on top. But I don't want to give up root for any of that.

Unfortunately I don't have anything to add as far as figuring that out. Soo glad to have root but having that asterisk beside it removes some of the enjoyment of the v30.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Freedom's WiFi Calling is very similar to T-Mobile USA's. On the US998 firmware, you might be able to still make use of WiFi Calling and all of the LTE bands used by Freedom are active in the US998 firmware. VoLTE though and HD Voice might be different. I don't know since I don't use Freedom Mobile when in Canada. The Canadian H933 firmware though is aimed at being an all-in-one firmware for Canadian carriers, kind of like the US998 is for the US. It doesn't have everything for every carrier but it has mostly the important features for most carriers.

Have you considered rolling back to the H933 firmware with the bootloader left unlocked and keeping TWRP to see if you can obtain what you want out of it? You might be able to get enough of the best of both to be happy with things that way. You should still be able to maintain root, if you want it, on the H933 firmware as long as you keep TWRP.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
Well I didn't realize we could go back to 933 firmwares and retain twrp and root. Has anyone actually done that yet?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
They've done it with VS996 KDZ, both flashed either

1) with dev patched LGUP via DL PARTITION mode but leaving off recovery partitions to keep TWRP

2) or flashing the VS996 KDZ in TWRP flashable zip file, created by [MENTION=3642089]westwood24[/MENTION].

H933 doesn't have the latter, but worth trying on dev patched LGUP -- especially with maybe Canada 20f KDZ?

Some people reported boot loops earlier when trying to mix and match H933/US998 modems/system, and I don't recall if they tried this particular scenario. But if they did, it was probably with the early Oreo Canada KDZ I posted, not the newer 20f (which I intend to post, maybe later today).
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mad Medik:
For sure I have considered it. Having a rooted H933 with Freedom Mobile Carrier updates would be the ideal for me. Unfortunately, it sounds like [MENTION=2214862]gilnfld[/MENTION] tried it unsuccessfully.

[MENTION=2214862]gilnfld[/MENTION] you mentioned that several things you tried failed and resulted in bootloops loss of IMEI, etc.

To control variables here, can you specify when you tried the above, were you back to a fully intact, and working H998 (unlocked bootloader) with TWRP before making this attempt? Did you try the flash in the specific way [MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] suggested above?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Looks like he tried, keeping TWRP but also tried keeping boot (to keep fastboot flash commands). The boot part would be problematic. If you have TWRP, that's most important.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
That definitely doesn't sound promising. Touch choice! If you don't mind me asking. Why do you want root for? Sometimes there are some non-root alternatives that might help you get the best of everything you want out of your V30 without feeling like you have to compromise one way or another.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mad Medik:
I use adaway but I could do without it or with a non root option. The main thing I would really miss is the ability to mirror the phone screen to my in car navigation screen. Being able to pull up gasbuddy, or my coffee order app without touching the phone is great, or to watch videos or TV while I wait for my son's piano lesson to finish is a bonus. Woth previous devices, I enjoyed trying different find but there hasn't been as active a dev community with this device as any of my previous so ROM flashing for interest sake hasn't been part of the equation. I do want to have the option of future OS support (e.g. Android P) after LG discontinued support. But it looks like I will be able to get root back when the time comes as long as the bootloader is unlocked/unlockable.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Even though I prefer AdAway, I don't Blokada to be much different in terms of the result. I see how the screen mirroring could be very important in that situation. I am not familiar with any screen mirroring apps. The future OS aspect I get. That is why I keep my 6P rooted and have TWRP installed. Being a Nexus device, the following and development support is there to keep devices like that and their owners flash happy for many years to come. It's too bad the V30 wasn't actually the Pixel 2 XL. The V30 deserves the the dev support and following.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] gilnfld:
Hey Fellas,

Glad to see the discussion still continuing here though my results on this front have been less than stellar. [MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] , that is not entirely correct. Yes I had originally -- when discussing with you about this last month -- thought of using LGUP to flash the entirety of the H933 KDZ Oreo minus both the Recovery AND Boot partitions since i did indeed want to keep fastboot commands at my disposal. BUT I then realized as you yourself note, that this will not work out so using Partition DL i flashed all the partitions of the Canadian KDZ except the recovery ones so i could keep twrp/root. This DOES NOT work, i have tried it so many times. It always leaves bootlooping to recovery/twrp, it will not boot to the system no matter what i do to it - - it just boots to twrp all the time. I have wiped, tripple wiped, quintuple wiped etc, no smoke. I have also tried flashing parts of the system separately, using ''dd" commands for the the entire KDZ content minus the recovery; same result it simply refuses to boot to anything except the twrp recovery partition.

I have asked several times already on these threads to see a show of hands of ANY fellow Canadians with a H933 who have managed to BOTH 'go back' to canadian oreo stock firmware AND at the same time keep their root/twrp and not a single person has yet to chime in on this; unless someone can suggest something else I am almost entirely convinced this is simply not possible at the moment. I have only been able to go back to Stock Canadian firmware by doing a full KDZ flash including the Recovery one. So, sorry [MENTION=277830]Mad Medik[/MENTION] , i do not think you can go back to stock Can Oreo AND retain root. If you want to be rooted stay with the US998 or LS996 software.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
What Canadian KDZ did you use? I'm uploading

Canada 20f as I type this

. But until now, only Canada 20e was available here, from my thread. Unless you downloaded more recent KDZ elsewhere? I'm not stating that will definitely make a difference, I'm just curious.

Did you try Master Reset after flashing? When flashing to US998 Nougat, we had to do that. Also I recall that H933 even had to do a DL Partition flash again to Oreo, whereas other variants could do simple upgrade after flashing US998 Nougat...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] gilnfld:
Hey Chazz,

Yeah i have been using the most recent 20f for quite some time. Downloaded it when it first came out on the the lg-firmwares.com website back in mid/late July. [I was actually kinda surprised you hadn't uploaded it sooner, you are always so on the ball about these things, man ;) ]

And yes i did do a master reset, about a dozen of them. There is some incompatibility here that prevents the H933 booting while custom recovery is present.

gs
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
OK, then. I guess that settles it. Sorry. Just strange the Sprint and Verizon phones can do it, but not Canada. Don't know about the other variant, the regional carriers' AS998.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
Again with no technical knowledge, there's still a chance someone might figure out the right combo. I mean the stuff you guys figured out to get to the Franken method and the wtf (the name of methods kind of explains the point on its own), there is likely some combination that might work.

Getting root on the v30 is/was awesome. It would be a miracle to have more dev interest in the device but I'm not surprised. I'm actually impressed with what has been accomplished. With root and the gcam mods, it does help close the gap to say the pixel xl in the areas where the v30 was lacking a bit. But the hardware definitely makes owning the device a pleasure.

The argument for root or not at least for me comes down to doing little tricks here and there to allow the phone to function how I expect it to in various situations. There are some tasker commands I use that either work better with root or only with root (turn wifi tether on when getting in the car). Ad blocking is also better. I used blockade but it would frequently just kill my data connection entirely until I toggled it. Or it would die on its own. No such problems and better blocking with adaway.

There are at least a few more "essential" things root brings along with a few non essential things, so again gald to have it.

But I do remember the first time I used the v30 with HD voice, I honest couldn't believe what I was hearing, a cell that sounded as good as a good land line. So I do miss that. And I feel I might miss VoLTE if I start using my data in car while on a call more often. Those two features are actually quite nice and useful but they just improve on parts that still work while being stuck on 998.

I assume the 998 doesn't have support in the rom for those features (VoLTE, HD voice, VoWiFi? Not a situation that if we could fool/spoof the model the carrier would play ball and we could get those features back that way?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mad Medik:
I'm following this thread:

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-volte-vowifi-functional-available-t3834267

Some interesting ideas but still early stages.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
Interesting indeed. I'll be following that now also. Thanks
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] cloud1250000:
I'm pretty sure the partition scheme is not the same. Once I tried to flash the modem using Partition DL and it tried to overwrite some part of 3 other partitions (one was system)

So you'll have to flash manually all partition using dd.

Edit:

One major reason why you can't flash the canadian system using dd/lgup is because the partition is actually bigger then the us998

Edit2:

Welp I'm on Global Canadian with root at the moment :D

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77606406&postcount=16
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jimmijam07:
I wish I had taken a peek here for updates before updating to Android 9, as it seems like there's been some progress on being able to root. Knowing my luck with the update, It's going to be a while again. ?

Edit: Will update once WiFi Calling/Text is active and I've given it a proper test.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ern88:
Got the update today. Had to reset my V30 though. It was stuck on the LG screen. Scared me but I got it to work after the factory reset. Good luck all.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bromexadrine:
bought lg v30 from rogers

Just bought lg v30 from rogers...it is carrier sim unlocked...i am using mts simcard with it right now
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
That is good to hear. All phones have to be carrier SIM unlocked when being sold after December of this year in Canada, as mandated by the CRTC. Definitely no complaints about them starting early, if that is the case. All carriers in Canada have the exact same model, the H933.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ern88:
I bought mine today. What a great upgrade from my Nexus 6p. Loving it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] RN Eric:
I wonder if mine from Bell is also SIM unlocked as well...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
Any changes noted?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] cy88:
It might not be. It might just be locking to the first sim inserted. In any case, I did see unlocking for $2 if anyone needs it sooner than Dec.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
As a Nexus 6P owner and someone who has compared the 6P and Nexus 6 directly to the V30. What would you say are the best aspects and differences that make the V30 an upgrade from the 6P?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ern88:
The battery life you get on the LG V30 is a huge step up from the 6p. I got well over 6 hours SOT on it with 20% still remaining. I be lucky to get close to half on the 6p. And I replaced my 6p battery a month ago. The screen size and the phone size is great. The screen is bigger and the phone is smaller then the 6p. The rear camera is great. It's just a great upgrade period. I am also using the Pixel 2 mod launcher with the V30. Wasn't crazy on LG's launcher. Just a personal gripe. If you have any other questions. I'll be glad and try to answer them for you.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Battery life is something you can't gauge in a store, which is one of the reasons I asked. I can usually squeeze a day out of my 6P but that is only using it moderately. Carrying two phones, which eventually I want to eliminate into one dual-SIM phone, has sort of skewed my use. :P I wasn't a fan of LG's launcher either. I have Nova premium though to replace that with, thankfully.

Do you normally root your phone and do you disable/remove bloatware? Side by side with my Nexus 6, 6P, and the V30, I could only see a difference between the Nexus 6 compared to the 6P and V30. Apps on the 6P compared to the V30 were practically identical in launch speeds with the difference, when there was a difference, was barely a fraction of a second. My 6P was pre-ordered on the first day they went up directly from Google. I have never had any of the throttling issues with it. I do debloat my phones though so I know that makes a difference, which is why I asked if you root. I delete Hangouts, Facebook, Keep, YouTube, Google Books, Google Movies, and the list goes on. For a Nexus device, I remove about 14 of the stock apps, which keeps it performing very well.

The Quad-DAC and EQ are a big seller for me. Due to the V30 having no front-facing speakers, that headphone jack and good audio out of it really becomes important for me. Although LG was too cheap to include headphones in the box, I have a great pair of Sennheiser headphones to take advantage of the excellent audio the V30 has to offer. If all of the H933's are unlocked, that is a selling point for me as I travel a lot. It may not have band 71 for T-Mobile but it's looking like the US unlocked version as well as the dual-SIM versions won't either.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ern88:
I never rooted my 6p. The DAC will be a big win for you. I'm not sure if the phone is unlocked. But if I need to travel. I have my 6p lol. But I do love the phone so far. Although I only had it for a day.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I really liked the phone as well when playing around with it in the handful of stores I visited to find out if Canada actually got more than one model. Even Freedom has the H933 though. Other than debloating, I root to modify the HOSTS file and use AdAway. Ads drive me bonkers! :P Brave is a great ad-blocking browser though.

I have been hoping that someone would have already tried to unlock the bootloader and check to see if all of the fastboot and ADB commands were there. Even if they aren't though, it would make an excellent replacement for my Nexus 6. With the different information out there and LG Canada not responding to my e-mail to officially confirm what bands the H933 model actually supports. I might just have to take the hit and be the guinea pig. :P
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bromexadrine:
thats what i am thinking too....i was trying to use 2945 code to get the sim unlock menu...but it does not work on h933
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] doaneramma:
The only reason I am holding off on the V30 is to hear about the root/bootloader. I survived my G4&5 without root because I had my trusty old M8 (that I still preferred day to day, but was beat! She finally bit it a few months ago). I hate hate hate not being able to run ad block apps and debloating.

One other question I have is regarding bluetooth/media controls. Both my G4 and G5 both had issues with external media controls that no other device I have ever owned have had. For example I use Car Home Ultra as I drive 2+ hours a day. And when I first install the app it works fine, as it does pairing to my car stereo. But after the second or third time connecting via bluetooth or through an app the media controller short cuts; commands fail to respond. I have tried other apps with the same issue (with the exception of ones that plug into power amp specifically, but I have google music and spotify). Did anyone else have these issues and have found the V30 doesn't have them?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
Anyone getting this at the normal camera mode?

I am seeing it in all demo units.

How about those people got the actual retail units?

Check the video link

https://youtu.be/m_v4ALKqMik
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Tons of people have posted videos made with the phone, in this forum and on YouTube. They don't have those issues.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
Did the store tell you its already unlocked? Spoke to Fido rep locally, they say will still sell it locked until December 1st.

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This only happens in normal camera mode. Please read and see the video before you answer.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I read it and my answer stands.

Post the actual video, not you shooting the phone's display.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
Do you have the V30?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I've answered that many times.

Post the actual video, not you shooting the video display in who knows what kind of botched settings.

So many people in this forum have posted videos shot with this phone in ALL modes.

You have to do better than that to create a problem and get buzz. There's too much proof at our fingers to refute it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ern88:
My phone doesn't do that.