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[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Just a heads up:

Honor 8 lite was released some 6 months after Honor 8. Although Lite is referred as "weaker" the Honor 8, the SOC architecture might be more recent or have a feature that enables it to have better support for Oreo. This has nothing to do with power.

Same thing with OP2 and Sony Xperia Z3's Snapdragon 80x series SOC. Powerful enough but not able to take Nougat (64 bit OS migration). Even Z3 was part of the beta testing for Nougat.

If this is a commercial, technical or even both reasons, only the manufacturer knows.

For me no more Huawei/Honor devices. They don't keep their promises, I'll take my money to 1+, Nokia or Sony. XDA's partnership is a joke. That translated into what exactly?

I see a lot of press releases about new devices and no reference to software support in the reviews. This means only one thing: Huawei is paying a lot of money to "advise" how media should refer to their products. Even paying for product placement in movies like Marvel.

Nokia is not spending that money (doesn't have it?) but taking Nokia 2 planned 8.1 update anyone can see the differences. Same thing for Nokia 5...

1+ community support covers where thet dropped the ball (1+2). 1+3, 1+3T, 1+5 and 1+5T are having Oreo. Sony historically updates their devices very well. Sure they all drop the ball here and there for whatever reason. But not keeping promises? Not acceptable. These brands should crash and burn. Then the investors will start thing more about long term profit (more customer support, thus more loyalty, thus more repeated purchases) and less about short term profit (more device sales, less loyalty, less repeated purchases).

I'm the only to blame to be fooled as I had previously Honor 7. No more.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] hrjun:
This is my first and last honor :)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] amarryat:
It's BS. Otherwise other regions would also be ruling out Oreo for the Honor 8, but they're not.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ThePS4Gamer:
I've started a petition about this problem, so if you want to solve this issue, make sure to check it out! https://www.change.org/p/huawei-tec...droid-oreo-based-emui-8-0-for-honor-8-devices

:fingers-crossed:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Lhjkl:
My last phone was xiaomi MI4 before i upgraded to Honor 8 . Now i am not sure if it was upgrade or downgrade since Xiaomi is still updating the phone & in latest speed test MI4 speed has increased with MIUI 9 . On other hand honor 8 last update to 7.0 (Nougat) lead to lesser battery life compared to Android 6.0 (Marshmallow) . I was hoping OREO will rectify it.......................................:(:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shravansp24:
for me too!

trust me I've signed tonnes of petitions like these and they never work 3/4th of the times!... :(

p.s .the screenshot is about Xiaomi updating their half decade old phones to miui 9
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Anonshe:
Nougat on Honor 8 already has as good battery life as on MM. You dont need Oreo for that even though I am pretty aghast at Honor's decision.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] MrBitBite:
I think we should pay more attention to what the Honor official says but not that rumor from other platforms.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] wangdak:
Can someone explain why everyone wants Oreo so badly? What's wrong with current Nougat? Thanks.

What crucial changes Oreo brings to Honor 8?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Old friend:
My next cell phone will also be Honor.

I just like it. Let's say v10.

I think you're too burdened with androids versions. The most important thing is that it works well.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] infinitegamerz:
Because Honor 8 is a flagship device.spec higher than H8 lite
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] wangdak:
That's not answer to my question. There was so much hate and anger about Oreo recently, so I am trying to understand if there is some real and significant benefit of getting Oreo for Honor 8.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] mattyboyo:
For me, the reason I want Oreo is for project treble. EMUI is more frustrating than I expected so I want a fully functional custom rom.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] wangdak:
So if they release Oreo there is better chance for more custom ROMs?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
Honor 8 is classed mid range not flagship

Yes if they bring treble to it

With treble most major stuff is working even hardware composer
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] droidbot1337:
THIS!!! to all those that are clueless as to why oreo is important..... its this! treble signifies an immense change for consumers. for those of us that despise custom skins it means choice! you like emui?? your awful!, but its your choice so fine! for those of us that dont, we get to flash custom roms!

this also means extended longevity for devices. honestly, i believe that phones have topped out. most knew phones could last until the hardware gives out. the only problem is the software.

the other reason for the hate is the bating, honor/huawei promised complete android updates. instead they offer a new partnership with a new phone. while their new phones come with oreo/treble enabled, this is still a **** move to those of you who bought the 8. it sucks, but thats huawei.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Gardriel:
Petition goal

fyi

"19. Jan. 2018

— Hello guys and thank you for the 500 suppporters!

We have made an effect on Huawei's update plan, but it is not completely changed Huawei's mind on the update.

They have promised that they will port the functions of EMUI 8.0 and Android 8.0, but that is not enough.

We need to keep gathering more and more signatures as we can until July 2018.

Do not stop saying, even screaming your opinion about this mess that Huawei called "software update policy". Let's break the bank!""

dont forget to sign the petition,

change.org/p/huawei-technologies-co-ltd-devoloping-and-releasing-android-oreo-based-emui-8-0-for-honor-8-devices
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] louiloomis:
While it's classed as mid-range in the grand scheme of phones, it was actually the flagship of Honor's range when it came out, which is why there's such a focus on it not receiving Oreo.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] $lim $hady:
Wtf is wrong with Honor.. They say Honor 8 get Oreo but sometimes say its not compatible...

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/android-oreo-release-date,news-26474.html
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] droidbot1337:
its a nice effort but ultimately pointless. just stop supporting this OEM. good news though, nokia is releasing a few phones in the US and they are great! i plan on buying one and an HTC U12. from now on just ignore huawei!!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] NatusVincere:
What do you mean it is classed mid range? Maybe by price it is.

At the moment of release it had Huaweis most powerful processor (not counting Kiring 955, it's the same one just different clock speeds). It is essentially a Honor named Huawei P9. It has similarish specs as the Samsung S7. Kirin 950 is on par with Snapdragon 820. Same amount of RAM as S7, flagship camera. Only differences are display, IP68 rating and Infrared.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
The problem is that two years support doesn't mean two major updates. Anyway Honor Italy, Germany and Global are saying to wait and to don't trust Honor India.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
That a can agree with

It still wasn't a flagship because p9 was the flagship

Honor is still a part of huawei that's why I say it's mid range it didn't have same clock speed as p9 and camera was degraded yet it's a great device I have to admit
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] dkionline:
No Oreo Update for Honor 8

At time of 2016 i agree, but now it gets to the same in price class and they wont be able to handle between huawei and honor, because the only difference is the name on the phone atm, nothing more or less.

Honor can talk, but huawei has to confirm, as its the motherhouse of both, they do the development for all.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] XeLLaR*:
I don't know why people go ham on this topic. Your phone will work just like before, even if you don't get Oreo.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Lukke2804:
Its because they promised two years of Updates and dont keep their promise. Also the reason we want Oreo is because of Project Treble, since it is currently very hard for developers to provide a Rom with everything working like on EMUI. That's basically why the majority of us are so excited for oreo and are so angry at Honor for breaking their promise.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Snowjack:
I don't like the arguments of people saying:

1. It is old phone and outdated for current software

> BIG LIE, even older and far much weaker devices are about to get OREO. Honor/Huawei can blame only themselves if not capable to make proper software updates to Kirin 95x chipsets. By saying it's not capable for Oreo they are basicaly saying that they make poorly designed phones which are easily replaced in less than 1,5 years with another half-priced device with far better performance-security-experience level with Android 8.

2. As for now it is a midrange device developed in 2016 and thus not profitable to make new software.

> IT IS July 2016 FLAGSHIP, Oreo was released only 13 months after it's announcement and far much shorter since most of us bought the phone later on (e.g. less then one year before Oreo and some even after releasing Oreo). Updating to Oreo is the necessary option for keeping their security and update promises for their flagship phones. Even when we were told to have full support for at least 12 months they broke their promises very shortly when skipping any Android 7.X or EMUI 5.X update (in the time the device was not even 6 months old since annoucment). They are making their marketing out of supporting XDA (community of continuous development and making the most of our phones). It is their moral obligation to make at least one update with Android 8 then.

3. it is not a big deal since you have more options of good phone brands to choose from having Oreo and even to have most likely better suport in the future.

> WE ARE HONOR FANS AND WE WANT THE SAME - TO BE BOTH TO COMPANY AND THEIR CONSUMERS HAPPY. Making effort to make our phone and our company sound better (as a true Honor), and not to shame about our devices in strong competition. On the other hand, if Honor brakes its promises we are ready to switch the brand or to told everybody about our bad experience with update policy of Honor - most likely considering another brand. But nobody wants to let it happen. This is why lot of people takes it personally.

If you want to stop making excuses and instead stand up against any possibility of Honor's BAD CHOICE than I would like to ask you to sign this petition:

https://www.change.org/p/huawei-tec...mpaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition

(Huawei's/Honor's final statement should be released no later than Friday 26th of January 2018 - fingers crossed)

Thank you
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] XeLLaR*:
Where did it say "major updates"?We got the B399 update a week ago so I can't see how they didn't keep their promise.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] wangdak:
Who got 399? I have EU version and still sitting on B394.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] netvorCZEK:
Have FRD-L09 and running B398 EMUI 5.0.1
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
I got it too, with some EMUI 8 improvements.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] _DaveP_:
Emui 8.0 improvement ? What are they as I can't say I've noticed them.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
Now in the gallery we have a folder in which you find the photos eliminated in the last 30 days and it allows you to restore them or definitely delete them. It also introduces the 3D Panorama feature
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] dkionline:
Thats emui 5.1, nothing from 8.0 yet.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
It seems that Honor 8 will get Emui 8.0. At least Honor says this on his Chinese forum.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] _DaveP_:
I have played with the 3D pano which is quite cool.

The deleted folder is a nice touch though, hadn't noticed that one so cheers.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zhiyong:
Honor 8 will receive emui 8.0 update. cheers！

news from weibo by honor official.

screenshot attached in which 'glory' refers to 'honor'.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Vysakh M Nair:
Well.. Check the update log for FrdL02. Last update for us was on September. Now talk about honors promise and 3 month security patch delivery.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] louiloomis:
Though I hope we get the full EMUI 8.0 (Oreo), I'm guessing the Honor 8 will have a customised version for Nougat, which would be in line with what the social media channels (USA and India) were saying last week about porting features over. Again, I hope I'm wrong, but even the tweet says "According to different types of chips and different hardware capabilities, support EMUI8.0 characteristics differ". If Treble isn't part of this update then it'll be a hollow victory for many of us on this forum.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] AN KU SH:
You are right no update from September onwards
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] _DaveP_:
Looks like we're getting features of emui 8.0 but not Oreo to go with it.

The way it's written isn't the clearest, but sounds the most plausible.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2018/0...or-devices-slated-receive-oreo-update-listed/
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Tel864:
LOL, it's like a bunch of kids wanting the latest toy and not even knowing how to use it. I bought the phone for what it was, not what I was hoping it would be. Anyone that buys a phone in these times and expects frequent updates is living a fantasy. All those updates that Honor promised for two years could be nothing but security updates and the occasional EMUI update like we're getting soon.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] louiloomis:
There's a lot of reading between the lines in that article, which is no better than anyone else's guess on the matter. They're quoting an Honor PR person who's saying the same thing as what the social media channels were saying last week, verbatim in fact. Maybe the situation has changed since then? I certainly hope so.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] _DaveP_:
I'd hope so, but they pulled the same with the Honor 7 so it wouldn't surprise me.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Lhjkl:
Just going through the replies & some people have mentioned there is no difference in Android marshmallow & Oreo , so people asking for update are some how wrong .

1) Here is the 20000 words article of changes in Android OREO arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/android-8-0-oreo-thoroughly-reviewed

2) Battery life degraded from Android 6.0 to Android 7.0 because Dooze restriction were relaxed . Android Oreo with its " Background Processing Lockdown " rectifies it .

2) Pre Android 8.0, device battery life and UI performance got worse with age, presumably from the user installing more apps. Measures in Android Oreo help mitigate it.

4) By 2018, New Apps Must Target Android Oreo .

5) Huwaei own internal benchmarks showed a small but significant improvement in responsiveness for the Mate 9 going from 7.0 to 8.0, with a score of 85, up from 79 . So Emui is more responsive . This is with old SOC so you can accept similar performance inrovement.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ThePS4Gamer:
[IMG="Honor USA Customer Service"]http://kepkuldes.com/images/04402c745c9b88e1cb611a7b7472524a.jpg[/IMG]I recently contacted Honor USA, and they said this: "US Honor 8 is not programmed to receive android 8 update." May be the European, Australian and Asian (except Indian) models will get it? It's so confusing. :eek:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] wangdak:
Moar speculations please!!!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] xsacter:
I find it all lies and a marketing gimmick. There's no way only parts of the world get the Oreo update and leave the rest hanging, it just doesn't make sense. They say it won't be getting it just so we go out and buy another newer Huawei product. Then later on they'll be like "Guess what, Honor 8 is officially getting the Oreo update! Harharhar..." Nonetheless, my Honor 8 will probably be my last huawei phone I'll be getting. While it is a snappy phone, it still has much potential and Huawei disgracing it's potential just like that is a total letdown on their part. Hell, even my good old Nexus 5 had more updates then this and that phone was released in 2013.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] kandelai:
6) Google added more Bluetooth codecs starting with 7.1.2 and even more in Oreo. Many, including myself, have issues with Nougat (7.0) connecting to automobile bluetooth systems, and that spans across many auto manufacturers. It is a Nougat issue.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Old friend:
Jesus. Sell ​​Honor 8 and buy Honor 9 if you so wish Oreo. You're really boring. You will get OREO and 50% faster device.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] troy5890:
Yeah about that..........people that bought the device shouldn't have to do that.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Old friend:
And I bought it. And I'll have to buy again. Well, Honor 8 will not last for a lifetime.

The next one will have Oreo. And Android P probably. but again not the one behind P. And what now? Sell ​​one, buy another. It's a commodity anyway.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] infernalhotdog7777:
Nah..... they r not fulfilling 2yrs promise to their customers and you guys r still asking try another device from the same company??? thank you, its my 1st and last Huawei/Honor device, never comming back again. Send from honor8.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Old friend:
Your problem. Buy the Nokia 3310. Just do not tell you that you will get two android upgrades. And to give Oreo again would look for P. So why not give P. Etc.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Fiasco:
Or better yet, sell your Honor 8 and don't buy an Honor phone next time.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Old friend:
Buy Ericsson t68. Super mobile. It's like you're gonna die without the Oreo on your cell phone.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] flip360:
Oreo or not, your stand on update policy and likewise minded people as yourself supporting and buying the BS from companies like Huawei, is what gets us here in the first place.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] funkiefresh:
This guy enjoys getting reamed by nowei and dishonor. Contributing more to being more of a throwaway society than we need to be.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Old friend:
What is not BS? Closed iPhone? In whose same icons do you look till you die? Or Samsung who has any old grandma around you? Because they did not hear anything except Samsung.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ivanlaki:
I am Huawei fan since Honor 8. Since then I tought like "Samsung is for close-minded people." So last year, beetwen H8 and A5(2017) i've chosen H8, and what a silly fool was I. Everyone who tells that "Oreo is not important, Nougat works great" should really try to understand that we don't fu*king want Oreo just so i can tell that it has oreo and beacuse we think oreo will make H8 brand new..

It is beacuse of two thing, firstly everyone who has brain can undestand that newer softwer is in every way better, every new app will be developed to work on newest software and eventually some apps may not be available for Nougat or won't work good and fast enough like on Oreo, and without newer software this phone will probably soon get more and more unusable..

Secondly, if Honor said that they will provide 2 major OS upgrades, wtf Huawei, how money-hungry can you be that you don't undestand that breaking that kind of promises will make you loose way more money than you will earn. I saw so many comments where people say "never again huawei"..

So, I hope I explained why I want Oreo.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Old friend:
I did not even know about that promise of Huawei. So I'm still okay. It's not the Oreo last Android.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ivanlaki:
https://www.google.hr/amp/s/www.and...date-support-new-existing-devices-711363/amp/

I think that many people bought H8 beacuse of this and ofcourse good price to quality ratio.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Old friend:
If Oreo comes in. Well then. If Oreo does not come, I will not kill my self. And politicians promise everything.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ivanlaki:
They sure do.

Just saying, defenitely won't buy Huawei phone any time soon.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] XeLLaR*:
Where exacly does or did it say that?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Lhjkl:
A first time buyer reading this article would interpret that Honor will provide 24 months of guaranteed updates meaning Oreo in this case https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-promises-extensive-software-support-from-this-year-onwards/

---------- Post added at 03:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:59 AM ----------

A first time buyer reading this article would interpret that his new phone would be getting 24 months of feature updates meaning OREO in this case . https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-promises-extensive-software-support-from-this-year-onwards/

---------- Post added at 03:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:02 AM ----------

A first time buyer reading this article would interpret that his new phone would be getting 24 months of feature updates meaning OREO in this case . www.xda-developers.com/honor-promises-extensive-software-support-from-this-year-onwards/
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
There are lot of links showing this. One given above and there were few specific to honor 8 for 24 months of support, 2 major android upgrades, security patches and bug fix every 3 months.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] XeLLaR*:
Im talking like Ads or screenshots from their website that specifically said "2 Major OS Updates".

Also Xda's article says "24 Months of updates", not "Major Updates".

You guys have to understand that an update can be anything. Removed a letter? Update. Added a new button or some other stuff? Update. Clock is now 1px more to the right in the statusbar? Update.

You can't say Honor broke their promise, because we still get updates. They may not include what we hope for, but they include something. This means they didn't break anything.

Also don't think I'm on honors/Huawei/Samsung whatever side, I just hate to see people act like when they bought the phone they got a call from Huawei CEO telling them the Honor 8 would 100% get the Oreo update.

It never, anywhere said that there will be ANY major updates. In fact they didn't even have to make Nougat. Just like any other OEM. They stand behind their products until they release a new one, and that's it.

Gz

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[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
Agreed. Honor official website says 24 months of update and as Android major version releases every year, other websites just assumed 24 months may have 2 major updates.

Per official page, 1st year will be major update and new features or bug fixes every 3 months and 2nd year its security patches, mostly, if not getting major update. Page claims this for honor 5X and Honor 8 specifically but 5X ended up with only one major Android update and volte update.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ivanlaki:
https://store.hihonor.com/us/software-update-policy

Here is from official site.

I guess you're right,but 90%of prople who read "two year updates" tought 2 OS updates.

If you are trying to get customers to buy your product with that tricky promisses, then you are defenitely not a moral manufacter, i know most of them aren't(especially Chinese), but there are some fair manufractures and people would stick to them. No wonder why some people never heard of anything except Sammy and iPhone. They bought it, paid a little more cash, never had a problem with it, get regular software updates(not freaking security patches) and don't need crappy Huawei/Honor in their lives.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] asaditya379:
Calm down boi check Google and you might end up with stats showing majority of people are on lollipop and marshmallow. Damn even whatsapp still works on Icecream sandwitch.