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[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MoresM:
So do you guys think that they're not gonna come through with the bootloader unlock? And do you think that even if they do, there's nothing to wait for here, since the 8 didn't get the chance to be adopted by the modding community?

Those Tweets really did make it seem like they were planning to release the unlock. Maybe if they release it soon the device could still get some traction here?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ZeroPointMax:
So... I think they will wait until the modding community lost interest and doesn't mess with it. Maybe next year. But I just assume that.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NadavCE:
I asked Nokia's CS a couple days ago, they said that they "don't have anything to recommend to customers regarding this issue."

I also emailed HMD Global two days ago, asking them about the bootloader unlock, but no reply as of now.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CazeW:
Rumor is that HMD is going to reveal Nokia 9 and a Nokia 8 (2018) version January 19th. So even if this one does get the unlock, I think it's unfortunately going to be pretty much dead in the water as far as development goes.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] rakzztar13:
Wow. Maybe i should better sell this phone now before it gets cheaper.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexspl:
Never again will I settle for promises.

Buying a phone will be only after browsing the xda forum for it and seeing root tutorials + a couple of topics with custom roms.

Thanks Nokia, thanks HMD, good luck ramping up sales in the next year.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] tie96:
It looks like HMD has thrown us with the unlocking of the bootloader. How will the developer community relate to this? I'm already beginning to regret buying this phone. I now use Oneplus 5.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NadavCE:
This is looking pretty grim... But the thing is - I don't think there are alternatives. Small-ish screen, good battery, good camera, good performance, and a low price.... There's the 1+5T but it's too large and has a meh camera; there's the Galaxy S8 but it's too expensive; there's the LG G6 but it's got an old processor...
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CazeW:
In Finland and Sweden it has actually been possible to buy the S8 for cheaper than the Nokia 8 at times. Would have bought it if it had been the dual-sim version...
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NadavCE:
As of now, the Nokia 8 is massively cheaper; 400€ on Amazon. Do you think it's worth buying at this price, considering the BL issue (and the rumor of the 2018 version)?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ZeroPointMax:
If you are satisfied with the specs + price... Why not?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MoresM:
As others have said it's still a great phone, especially if you're into LCD screens. Software is as stock as you'll likely see on the market today.

It's really just the modding and tweaking it's missing.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CazeW:
Like others said, it's not a bad phone for that price (I'd even say it's a great phone for that price) if you don't mind the lack of mods. The camera isn't the best but that can partially be remedied with the modded Google Camera and I do believe HMD is serious about their dedication to fix bugs. From what I've heard, the 2018 version will have a 18:9 screen, IP67 certification, move the fingerprint scanner to the back and drop the headphone jack, but it will still be using the Snapdragon 835. So if you prefer those changes, then it might be worth waiting, but it's also unknown when it will be available globally as they are launching them in China first.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NadavCE:
Well, that settles it. I'll probably get this model and hope development picks up...
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] zadox:
No thanks, they could try selling that soup (good luck with going against the plethora of companies imitating one another) to others, not me.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ZeroPointMax:
So I asked the a Nokia support person and they replied to the bootloader question: they confirmed that they are planning to unlock it but cannot give information about when it will happen. German pictures below.

They state that they have to address 'risks'.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bbqbrisket:
Nokia 2 Rooting

Anything been developed on rooting the Nokia 2 yet?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NadavCE:
So, as I'm sick of Nokia / HMD Global not mentioning anything, I created a Twitter account - [MENTION=235648]nokia[/MENTION]8_BL. At least once a day, I tweet at sarvikas and nokiamobile, asking about the status for the BL unlock.

Following, retweeting, etc. would be helpful.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 2WildFirE:
I'm on the train, but it seems I'm on the blocked list from Nokia and juho [emoji23][emoji106]

Powered by Nokia 8
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hikari_calyx:
If I can get a Nokia 2, it will be possible.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bbqbrisket:
So, you want me to send you mine?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] noise.se:
I've been asking Nokia on twitter, Facebook and support web page about unlocking the bootloader but no response in any way :(
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Luhccas-X10:
This is because Nokia will not unlock it officially.

Sent from my Nokia 8!
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] dnsp:
Too bad for them, their loss. Nokia is, was and always will be the epitome of bad decisions, they'll never learn.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MoresM:
They would benefit from providing clear and unambiguous communication about this subject.

Quite unimpressed by HMD's attitude towards this. Their various statements about unlocking have been contradictory from day 1, as evidenced in this thread.

[MENTION=7070667]NadavCE[/MENTION] I'm not a Twitter person. How has it been going with your plan?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] NadavCE:
After a month of pestering them (and being ignored), I got a canned "subscribe to our mailing list for updates". After telling them that I have, and there've been no updates, they responded with "we appreciate your feedback".

I asked if they had anything substantial to add, and got no response...

I'm not one for pessimism, but I doubt an unlock is coming...
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Didusieq:
Maybe they do not have any idea how to unlock something they locked earlier. :D
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CazeW:
I still don't understand why they packed the recovery with the kernel instead of having a recovery partition like pretty much EVERY OTHER PHONE SINCE 2012(!) or something. Which is probably one of the reasons why it didn't get Treble and probably is at least partly to blame why they aren't willing to release an unlock. I also have a feeling they made more stupid design decisions like that which makes the unlock very hard to do.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] lupi63:
I would be interested in that, too. Unfortunately there is no separate section on XDA forums for the Nokia 2. Do you have any news on unlocking the bootloader on Nokia 2 ?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hikari_calyx:
For rooting Nokia 2, I really want to get one in China.

I'm also trying to find more prototypes of FIH smartphones.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Intel777chanel:
Hello, guys. So what the deal now? I'm interested in buying nokia 8 right now and my final decision depends on is there is possible to unlock bootloader(or at least install root) on this device. Is there some news or something?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] machhho:
No news so far , but I ecourage you to buy the phone because I do have and it is fast and smooth and cheap compared to the other devices that has the same CPU

---------- Post added at 02:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:26 PM ----------

Plus the battery on the Nokia 8 is pretty good , because I'm playing a high battery demand game called Dominations and the battery lasts very good while playing and no heats whatsoever , maybe this is due to the hardware and the no bloatware like Samsung phones lool
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] millanboy:
I'm happy with my Nokia 8 even though I'm still craving for root access which I strongly believe will be available someday. It's 99% stock Android making it smooth, clean and no bloat software so root access or unlocked bootloader isn't

really

necessary at least for me. Hence Nokia 8 is getting the latest and greatest Android updates. The 1% is Nokia 8's current camera app which I've read will be replaced and improved quite soon.

Believe in Nokia and they'll rise to the top again with a better community base :)
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexspl:
Nice try, Juho. We'll believe it when we'll see it.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pollie81:
damn, really sad to read this topic..

after i sold my oneplus 3t which i shouldn't have done.. LOL! i bought a LG G6 just to try something else for a change..

good phone with a good camera but being used to nexus and oneplus it just doens't satisfy me.. :(

i'm really digging the oneplus 5T bit it's just a bit to expensive for me..

then i saw an article about the new nokia 7 plus, great phone for a decent price but then i discovered that there isn't any custom stoff/community for it..

oh well, i believe the community is present and if nokia would unlock the BL it would be booming as well.. but to bad nokia doesn't provide any BL unlocking.

and given the time this is for discussion i'm not very convinced that some day it would be unlockable..

still, the 7 plus seems to be a great device but... (i just love custom roms too much!)
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] sinz0000:
I am planning to buy nokia 8, but seeing no custom ROMs make me scratch my head. please someone tell me if there is any scope for this device for custom roms. nokia 8 forum on xda is really shocking to look at. i thought it would have custom roms.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ryanraven:
Blame Nokia, they won't unlock the bootloader on the device so it's impossible to install a custom ROM at the moment. I wouldn't expect them to unlock it either, also why buy a phone if your going to just chuck a custom ROM on it ? Surely you buy a phone for what it is the day you bought & anyway a custom ROM would be pointless since the Nokia is basically stock Android anyway
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] back2live:
My Nokia 8 now have an unlocked bootloader.

https://xdaforums.com/nokia-6/how-to/attempt-to-play-official-bootloader-t3768989

works perfect
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I read the forum.. So this means that HMD will soon provide it?? Is there still hope for this phone to get a little support?? What's your opinion man?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 2WildFirE:
With luck and a bit more helpful devs, I think yes. If hmd comes up with unlock.... Idk

Powered by Nokia 8
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Hopefully man.. This is a good device... It would be awesome to get some good things. HMD does even realize that developers are a big community???? And if the device gets support from devs, so more sales it will do??. The developers are working hard man. Let's see how this goes
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] spaha-bih:
Did HMD provide Kernel Source Code for Nokia 8?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ikkefc3:
No.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] spaha-bih:
how is this possible? they are violating GPL 2.0 licence ?
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ikkefc3:
According to Nokia fans they will give you the source code when you ask, which is the only gpl requirement apparently.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 2WildFirE:
We asked servel times juho told us he will give sources in short! This was in September 2017.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ikkefc3:
Yes, that's what I said, but apparently Nokia is not like Xiaomi because they say they will give the sources to you -_-

Hmd has even been surpassed by both Huawei and Xiaomi in this regard, which is very sad.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] charlatan01:
Well, it looks like there's good news on the horizon... or you can have your bootloader unlocked by PM'ing the OP in this thread;

https://xdaforums.com/nokia-6/how-to/attempt-to-play-official-bootloader-t3768989

EDIT - sorry, didn't see [MENTION=556547]back2live[/MENTION] 's post about this.
[Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 2WildFirE:
I works fine I, thank goes to [MENTION=3665957]the_laser[/MENTION].

Powered by Nokia 8 with open bootloader
[LeEco Le Max 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] kevin525:
I lost my imei, because I used command

fastboot erase modemst1

fastboot erase modemst2

now, IMEI become 00000000000. after I flashed qfil still not work.

someone can help me, or share your qcn file, let me restore it.

thx,
[LeEco Le Max 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] A.N.Droid:
i guess you know how it works so heres the qcn file, pulled from my phone.

i deleted my imei, just search for the following text in a hex editor and replace it with your converted imei:

imei1here

imei2here
[LeEco Le Max 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] kevin5251984:
Thanks your share, I get 4G signal!!

but has another issue, internet is ok, but can't call and sms.

some hardware is broken ??
[LeEco Le Max 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] cgigate:
interesting , you did restore qcn ....
[LeEco Le Max 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] yurtesen:
I bet your IMEI is something like 86277603043226X... I guess it from the IMSI value, but anyway :)

I tried to put your QCN to X829 and it gets no network :( well that was probably expected.
[LeEco Le Max 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] pswalia:
please mail me qcn file for x829

Tonyzhong please mail me qcn file for x829 version

mail address - pswalia2u@gmail.com
[LeEco Le Max 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] coolman7:
I downloaded this file and tried to use it on IMEIRebuilder.exe. But IMEIRebuilder.exe crashes when opening this file.

Is it possible to get another blank QCN file for X820? And it is better to get this file with QFIL or QPST.

Thanks
[LeEco Le Max 2 Guides, News, & Discussion] coolman7:
When I try to restore X820 blank qcn file to my X820. But QPST gives this error message:

The ESN of the phone does not match the ESN of this file containing RF calibration data

What should I do? Should I enable Allow ESN mismatch and force to restore this QCN? Is there any risk to damage my X820?
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] mapbond:
Hi

I want to know is there any way to root without using pc. My bootloader is unlocked. Need to flash twrp.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] superior888:
Don't think so, no. Not without root anyway.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] jhs39:
Kingroot might work but it's a horrible app that isn't worth the trouble it creates. If Kingroot works on this phone then you can probably install a custom recovery via something like Flashify or the TWRP app. The problem with Kingroot is that it's basically malware. It installs adware on your phone and won't give root access to anything that interferes with its functioning like Adaway or an alternate root app. It also sends God only knows what data from your phone to China. You are honestly better off not being rooted at all than using Kingroot. There are instructions for rooting with Kingroot and then switching root to SU but unless the instructions are extremely up to date they will not work. Kingroot is updated with the specific purpose of preventing you from being able to do anything that reduces the power Kingroot has over your phone. It can be uninstalled but the app makes certain you completely lose root functions before that happens.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] mapbond:
no support

i tried kingroot there is no support from there end. so i uninstalled it.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Rhoban:
You can't. You need to unlock the bootloader if this phone and this requires a PC
[HTC Wings] geogue:
Hy Guys,

I used a GPS Software for Smartphone name NAVIGON Mob. Nav. 6.5 on my HTC S620 => it works without problems

This GPS Software is ok with HTC S710 but not yet with S730 (as this device is brand new)..

I've tryed the combination (HTCS730 - MN 6.5) : it works for fast research (proximities like gas pump or restaurant) but its goes down with classical researchs (too long) => the program stop !

My problem is with memory on this device HTC S730

I've maximum 17 000 to 18 000 Kb free at the best moments.. and I've installed no other software..

I've done a advanced test of my RAM thats shows that some files (hidden files) took much memory.. (like video telephony, listening ports) but I don't want to use it.. (I would prefer to hide them in order to make my GPS soft work )

So who can tell me how to dismantle some WM6 files/process in order to win some KB for my GPS ?

Thanks in advance for your help

Jeff from Belgium

HTC S730

Navigon Mobile Navigator 6.5. (for Smartphones)

External GPS Module LEADTEK Bluetooth

Carkit Parrot Minikit 3.1
[HTC Wings] mpattonm:
there is a wiki on that. go read it man
[HTC Wings] SamuelTee:
ok. Thanks for that answer. The second question would be, where to find this wiki?
[HTC Wings] bigflavor:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Windows_Mobile_6_Standard
[Honor 6X Questions & Answers] Jax:
i love stock android and those notification panel animation in nougat.
[Honor 6X Questions & Answers] sniperlife:D:
Me me meeeee!
[Honor 6X Questions & Answers] RedSkull23:
Man, why are u making a new thread every post you do... https://xdaforums.com/honor-6x/how-to/stock-android-instead-emui-update-honor-t3669153 same things, same questions.
[Honor 6X Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Not possible for now, they won't ditch EMUI that fast
[Honor 6X Questions & Answers] sniperlife:D:
Moderators should take a look at this.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] asmd6230:
So,

I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.

It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.

- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.

- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.

- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*

- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.

these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jellyhead:
Better get over it, non-removable batteries seem to be the norm now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] marctronixx:
they still make those?

i have not used a phone with a removeable battery in ages! i didnt even know phones were still being made with hot swappable/removable batteries...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbelcomp:
LG V20 had a removable battery, that is the phone I got to replace my Note7.

I just read that the LG V30 doesn't.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ad44891:
U sound delusional.. Sorry had to tell you homie..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] rawintellect:
I think your comments are on point. I came from the note 4 and have exactly the same complaints.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jah:
Not being disrespectful, but since the Note 5 (sealed battery) and Note 7 (non flat screen) we have known that Samsung have changed the design path for the Note series. They only change was to add back SD card storage after the Note 5. Frankly, given that drop in prices of the Note 5, it may be a better option for Note 4 users who don't like the edge screen design. The screen quality of my Note 5 is amazing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ReformedAppleFan:
The original poster has known it but doesn't like it.

Seems reasonable to me.

---------- Post added at 08:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:18 AM ----------

This bit I don't understand.

The fact your N4 suffered a charging failure doesn't really support your argument

;)

But you genuinely believe N4 > N8 build quality?

I went from N4 to N7 and was blown away by the improvement. Am still waiting for my pre-ordered N8...

---------- Post added at 08:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:27 AM ----------

Yeah this took a little getting used to. And in my case, having spent the previous four years taking the p*ss out of iPhone owning friends for their not being able to replace batteries, it was humble pie time.

:D

Fast charge really helps soften the blow.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] asmd6230:
im going along for the ride with this non removable battery thing.

This is my first and probably last. plonking down 1k for phone with obsolesce built it is crazy... i believe the removable battery/sd/user configurable phone will make a come back.

I wanted the best tech of the time... camera etc, but at the same time i also appreciate the value of my dollar. Samsung says the N8 battery will still hold 97% charge after 2 years.. new tech? i dont know and i find this hard to believe. time will tell. Phone is great, the non removable battery thing is what it is.

I would still be using my note 4, its plenty nice enough to do what i need it to do save poor camera performance in low light... and of course its never going to be as snappy as new tech, but it works just fine otherwise. but after several units failed on me, thought id upgrade to the latest and greatest. as i said, N8 is an awesome phone and has improved on the N4. faster performance, better cameras.... supposed to be better everything, not a front camera that takes a narrower picture than the previous one.

stylus on a curved screen makes no sense, Samsung should come out with one with a flat screen for power pen users.

and nobody has mentioned the field of view of the front camera is less than the Note 4. (i went from note 2 to 4 to 8, so i cant comment on the FOV of the front camera of the N5... maybe somebody here with a N5 can chime in?) its a small gripe for most, but for me... i loved the fact i could do a group selfie with my Note 4. am sure i will get used tot he n8... i just cant fathom why Samsung did this.

I-devices never worked for me. coming from Windows CE (how i loved those ipaqs and dopods... ), Android simply worked. shame MS killed of windows CE. MS phones werent all that either... been there and that.

now waiting for a device that will run full win 10 with a stylus and really great cameras!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuclearrage:
Non removable battery, was a trade for waterproofing, my note 5 is still going good, and s7e runs like a champ. Both have non removable batteries.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] asmd6230:
"Non removable battery, was a trade for waterproofing, my note 5 is still going good, and s7e runs like a champ. Both have non removable batteries. "

that is good to know. def reassuring.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ReformedAppleFan:
Hear, hear.

After the way Samsung UK dealt with the N7 recall, I'm just waiting to jump from samsung to any large phone with integrated stylus.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] neyenlives:
I haven't swapped batteries even in all of the S and Note series devices I've had since the Galaxy S3, even though I had the option. I could care less about swappable batteries.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hardbrew:
Does this exist?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Demonface.24:
Not that I know of.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mardukeme:
You can go into the camera settings and change the front camera resolution to 16:9 6.0 m. You'll have a wider view, and same goes for the back camera.

Another option while in selfie mode, swipe the screen left to right. Here you have a mode called wide selfie, and others.