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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zanr Zij:
With Amoled screen, more video you get more screen on time
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MACHEK:
This is what I get only after a few minutes, Google services
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Thats because its just off charge. Give it a bit and it should go down

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I have At&t Note8 and my wakelocks were higher usually stayed around 6 to 8% awake. Since I flashed the Unlocked firmware 950U1 onto my At&t Note my wakelocks stay around 2 to 3%. Absolutely no At&t bloat.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ad44891:
Sounds interesting.. How did you do that.. & what's the pros and cons of it, thx
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MACHEK:
Yeah this is after a while. I also am interested in how you did that and pros and cons
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
[MENTION=2121531]MACHEK[/MENTION] and AD44891 check PM

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Go here

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3685884
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandawg:
Zerolemon should have a case out in a few months
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] rrmzr1:
fhd vs wqhd if it matters to anyone. Honestly not seeing too much of a difference at all. Original post is fhd. New post is wqhd
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandawg:
What's a good app that doesn't need root to see what is keeping the phone awake? I used wakelock detector before, but it needs root to work.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Simple ADB command with Wakelock Detector will give you root options

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Istall Lite version follow steps.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Shadow12347:
Okay, so I rooted and here's my stats. Everyone makes a big stink about the 80% limit, but tbh the battery saving benefits of what you can do with root along with all the other wonderful benefits far outweigh that one con. Over the last 3 days, I have about 4 hours SOT for each day, and as you can see my battery never dropped below 45ish percent from 80%. Which means in 4 hours SOT time I only lost 35% lol. Multiply that by two and I get 8 hours SOT with 10% remaining, and that's with only 80% of my full battery capacity lol. On top of that, I use Waze frequently, have Viper4Android (on phone speaker too so constantly running), AOD to always on, FHD resolution, speed tweaks with LSpeed, and basically leave Bluetooth, wifi, location, data, auto brightness, and video optimizer on, and I got those stats lol. On top of that technically li-on batteries are only supposed to be charged between 20%-80% for best longevity anyways, so it forces better battery habits lol. And this is without even trying to conserve battery at all... I'm just using it to my heart's content, and it's no problem whatsoever haha
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
I am not rooted, but I only charge my battery to 90% anyway so me personally I dont think the 80% limit is a big deal.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandawg:
Is this normal? lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ryland Johnson:
My battery life started very poorly. Very poorly indeed. If I even tried to honour the keep it about 50% and not charge it above 80% that 30% absurd working platform could last me an hour or two! I gave up on that as I was charging my phone numerous times a day. I was concerned about the battery as it was so poor but I have always been tolerant of that as we expect so much from the Note 8.

For some unknown reason though the past week has seen a vast improvement on battery figures and I have no idea why? :)

BTW the Accubattery app played hell with my Note 8 and I had to delete it?

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Oh, geez! Get rid of that bloat! LOL!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandawg:
I'm more concerned about the Amazon app
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
That's what I was referring to, ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Greenify Amazon.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandawg:
Hope that helps with the wakelocks, thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] lennie:
sorry bro, not going to even try to fully understand what you're talking about properly because clearly you've plugged in about 4 times in the space of 2 days. not sure what you're trying to prove.......

also, if you can only charge up to 80% of your battery's capacity because of the root method used then that's something you're content with, if its not a problem for you awesome for you.

I'm not sure where you got this "li-ion batteries are supposed to be charged between 20%-80%"....

a few things to remember, li-ion batteries count charge cycles based on a 100 percent discharge even when it's summed over multiple charge sessions.

overtime li-ion batteries needs to be recalibrated, meaning draining your batteries to 0% then charge to 100% one or two times in succession so your battery doesn't report it's 80% charged when in actuality it's only 75% charged and gets worse over time. so you not being able to fully charge your batteries because stuck at 80% means you can never recalibrate.

you shouldn't leave your phone on constant charge (even if can't get past 80%)

charging your batteries produce heat and heat isn't really good for its longevity, granted i'm not sure what ambient temperature your phone is in but if you live in a warm climate charging your phone that often might not be for the best.

there's nothing wrong with using your phone however you want but just remember that li-ion batteries doesn't like to be stressed meaning you should be mindful of excessive power draw.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.tech...ow-properly-charge-phone-battery-3619623/?amp
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Shadow12347:
Actually it's over 3 days lol... Look at the time, it says 72 hours which is 3 days, and the fourth charge is from the 4th morning lol... The "2 days on battery" is the total amount of hours that it wasn't plugged in over the 3 days and one morning. You divide that by 3 and that's about 16 hours off the charger each day. I leave it plugged overnight, which I know isn't the best, but I'd rather not futz with charging elsewhere, so that's why that metric shows 2 days. So yeah, I was averaging 4 hours SOT with only 35% drain at the worst (one of the days was closer to 30% lost), multiply that by two and that's 70% used up over 8 hours SOT, leaving 10% left on my phone, and that is with only 80% capacity... That's why it's impressive, because a few posts up from mine, someone not rooted said he averaged about 6.5 hours SOT per day but I'm getting 8 with less battery capacity ;)

You are wrong sir. And I don't know what charging to 80% has to do with heat, but that would produce less heat, because it would be on the charger shorter if you are missing 20% of your capacity lol. All the while, it happens to keep my battery within the magic percentages that Butchieboy was so nice to point out. So to sum it up, I could get 8 hours SOT per day which is better than some people without root and the tweaks I've done even though I have 20% less capacity... That is my point lol. It isn't a big deal to have the 20% limit when your battery life improves by a percent far greater than what you lost.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
I have Amazon on my phone and it does not wake my phone up like that.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] lennie:
interesting conclusion and way of thinking you have there, if that's what you believe about your "8 hour sot" then by all means go ahead, not trying to stop your belief or anything like that.

also what exactly was I wrong about? I never said charging to 80% has anything to do with heat, I said "you shouldn't leave your phone on constant charge (even if can't get past 80%)".

you should also remember that your use case isn't the same as that other person's use case so you can't really make such a comparison as: " he averaged about 6.5 hours SOT per day but I'm getting 8 with less battery capacity". That's like apples to oranges. the thing is if you are fine with what you are getting for your use case then that's great. for my use case i get a SOT that i am happy with and personally I wouldn't give up 20% of my battery just for root, in my book it sort of defeats one of the purpose to root. With root should get more than would normally, not root to get the same.....that's just backwards to me. anyway, as I've said before, if you're fine with what you are getting then that's great for you bro.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sparx639:
My battery life and app list, this is a Verizon note 8 running Samsung's unlocked firmware. I came from the regular Pixel so this is pretty incredible.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] -Zork-:
Is note 8 battery life better than S8 plus? Checking a lot and no conclusion yet...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Venom0642:
The answer is no S8 Plus battery life is better, both phones i have and the S8 Plus beats it by 2 to 3hrs in SOT!

Running On Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus SM-G955U Wicked Venom
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] -Zork-:
Thanks!!!

Enviado desde mi MHA-L29 mediante Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] GallardosEggrollShop:
Agreed. My S8+ was getting significantly better battery life than my Note8 but I still love the phone regardless.

This is my latest run and my battery life has increased significantly. 6 and a half hours of SOT with 2 days and almost 5 hours of it being on. Battery life is nowhere near disappointing.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
For me AOD usually takes up most of the juice daily but what I do now whilst I'm home is leave the phone laying face down (it's in a case) to help things. I actually need AOD because it's working with bxActions so that's been my simple workaround in dealing with the AOD drain. Here's an updated stat on how my battery life has been performing.

ETA: I'm completely stock.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alex---1:
Put an all black theme on and reduced the brightness to 40% all the time and also turned off AOD.

Amazing battery life.

Given some get 6+ hours screen on time over a 16 hour period and I got pretty kuch 5h over 2 days - Not bad at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
One quick update from my last post before I finally pit it on the charger.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
When I use Facebook a lot during the day it effects my battery life big time. It's a battery hog. I am going to use Metal for Facebook even though I hate it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] leony74:
For me the battery life is same on Note 8 and s8 plus. I used the s8 plus before buying note 8 and it gave me same SOT and same standby times. My usage is always with auto brightness on, location high accuracy, location reporting on. SOT on both the phones with stock Rom and stock software 6 to 6.5 hrs on mixed use LTE and Wi-Fi. Total battery life around 30 hours.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] xxx42069:
Battery life is so subjective because different people have different set ups and uses, so you can't just make a blanket statement like battery life is better on the s8.

I'm getting amazing battery life. Consistently between 7:30-7:45 sot. I don't do anything special or overly restrictive. I don't believe in paying $1000 for a flagship phone and turning off all it's features for battery life, that's just stupid.

What I have done is root it, debloat it, disabled apps I don't use, apps that the system wouldn't let me disable I froze using titanium (gotta love being rooted), I make sure if I'm not using Bluetooth it's off, if I'm in an area where I know I won't have WiFi I turn it off, I've disabled gimmicky features in settings like smart stay and direct call, and definitely turn of Bluetooth and wifi scanning in the background.

There may be a few other things I've missed but yeah, I make calls, play games, surf the web, send texts and emails, and take pics everyday. I'm always 15-30 away from 8 hours of screen on time when my phone hits 5% or less battery.

Hope to someday break the 8 hour mark.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pandawg:
Turned off AOD. Standby time is a lot better. Sucks though I liked the feature, but the battery drain was a little too much for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Completely stock. Have been following a battery guide I read. Only charging to 95% not letting it drop past 30%. Letting it drain to 0% once a week and these are the results..very very happy.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] themaximillian:
Looking good.

What's the guide in question?

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
I think I posted link several several pages back

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] themaximillian:
Thanks mate!

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nuclearrage:
2 ideas

I always log out of facebook when not using it.

Also I use the Samsung internet browser when facebook really pisses me off.

That's how I keep facebook from eating all my battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
Well it does not matter now I just got kicked off for 30days
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Roobwz:
Which theme?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CalvinL:
So I exchanged my Note 8 since it was draining 3% battery life per hour on every other charge or so. I'm not sure what causes it to drain 3% sometimes and not other times, but it was recommended that I just exchange it.

My new Note 8 worked out great initially where it was draining less than 1% on idle, but suddenly it is on 3%+ per hour despite no app changes from the time it was at 1% to 3. There doesn't seem to be any app that is responsible for this that I can find. Is there a way to search deeper to see where the battery drain is coming from?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jason504:
I don't think so. Not without root. I know this is probably a pain but install one app at a time and try to see what one is doing it. Also I have almost all my apps to not work in the background.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] lennie:
go settings > Device Maintenance > (look at bottom) click memory > press "view more"

in there you will see the apps and some services that are running and using memory and the actively using CPU. If your phone is using that much battery even while idle then i'm sure whichever app that's burning through it will show up here. just keep on eye on the cpu usage, you might see an app spike it for a couple seconds at a time or other apps you'll see constantly burn it at 0.5% to 1%.

you'll see apps in here that has no reason to even be running....i can tell you this almost every app you install will have a service running in here which is eating cpu cycles and taking up memory space which is also eating more battery. Even the other day I caught my Phone app (which is the Samsung phone UI, the one that comes up after you initiate a call) using up 1% of cpu cycles and I was NOT on the phone.

i'm only losing 1% battery every 4 or 5 hours on a regular but once I got 9 hours from 1%, I also got some 7s and an 8. The thing is It doesn't make sense to keep apps you're not going to use or will never use constantly running in the background. I use bk package disabler for the things I will never use and just simply use the built in force close android feature for the apps I will use occasionally.

Just keep an open mind and know that it won't increase your SOT to astronomical levels, but it will give you back the % you were losing while not using your phone, that's probably 10% or more.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CalvinL:
I don't think it's really possible for me to download app by app to figure out the drain because it would take weeks to determine through that method. I have all my necessary apps downloaded and it works fine, but something will happen and my battery will suddenly be crap, so I'm not sure if this is an app related issue. Ive checked all active apps and none of them are using very much battery. Is it possible that the Costco I go to has a bad batch? If so, why would the battery alternate in my first Note 8 from working well to not? The replacement I got was working very well for the first week. Is it possible that I charged it wrong? I've used fast charging exclusively, once with wireless fast charging, and I've tried non-fast charging, but the results are the same.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] GallardosEggrollShop:
I'd suggest getting Greenify, aggressive doze should help you battery life but you can also have it automatically force close out of apps that are known to drain battery, after you hit the power button.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CalvinL:
I'm curious about what is the underlying cause for my battery drain since I don't think any app I use is uncommon or known to cause excessive battery drain. But thanks, I'll try Greenify and see if it can help.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Shuthefrontdoor:
It could be a particular settings, particular app, maybe if you use a package disabler your doing more harm than good, I doubt Costco has an entire bad batch, did you turn off all the diagnostic reporting settings? Are you using aod? There just soany factors involved lol. Good luck!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] lennie:
It seems as if you misunderstood what I was saying. I wasn't saying for you to download/install each individual app and test. I was just saying to run your apps as normal but keep an eye on what the apps are up to when you notice high battery drain. but hopefully greenify works for you.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MACHEK:
I have a lot of wakelocks with ims service, is there anything I can do to fix this?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MACHEK:
See attached
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CalvinL:
Yeah, turned off. No AoD. I've been really conservative with my BK disabler, so I don't think it's really that.

I downloaded Greenify, but I don't think too much has changed unfortunately. Learned that Netflix is active if I don't close it, but that's not the culprit since it was just me forgetting to close it completely. I regularly use the device maintenance to clear excess apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] lennie:
I use bk disabler and went all out with it, things that I don't use or will never use gets disabled (plus their services gets disabled too). for example I won't use apps like "Write on PDF" anytime soon so instead of having it constantly run in the background I disable it and it's services, this saves me 37MB of memory + whatever battery it used.

I found Samsung dictionary to be ass, search simple things like SpiderMan brings up superman i searched off hand words like koon which their dictionary gave raccoon.

I also found that Samsung runs a Bixby service in every single one of their apps even in some system apps too.

in all I think I've disable about 94 apps which had probably over 300 services. and then I disabled some additional services in some other 29 apps like the Phone which I mentioned earlier that at times were using cpu cycles for an extended period even when not in use, it was using up 0.90% to 1% constant. so I use bk disabler and disabled 5 services in the phone app I that seemed pretty unnecessary to me (Bixbyappservice, GetPolicyJob, GetPolicyTransaction, HeartBeatJob, HeartBeatTransaction......4 of them dealt with easysignup...i thought "why does my phone app needs to easy sign up with anything?" anyway, since I disabled those my phone app runs perfectly as it should, it runs when I use it and about an hour or 2 after not in use it shuts down plus no more excessive cpu uage.

the thing is when you use the maintenance to clear up excess apps, most of them will have services that auto-start a couple minutes later so maybe once every restart I'd go to settings > apps and force stop the apps so the only ones that would run are the ones I use frequently. With greenyfy it has an option to auto force close/sleep apps in the settings but they require a $3 "donation".....and that kind of pissed me off, because that's not a donation, it's a payment if it's required. I would have absolutely no problem paying the $3 for the app or feature if they had labeled it the right way....it just seems a bit dishonest to me so I thought "what else are they dishonest about since I have to give them administrator privilege to my phone" and if I remember correctly their app is "hidden" so it wouldn't show up in device maintenance > memory (unless they changed that)....so if they're hiding their app, what else are they hiding?

well, that's just my thought on greenify, if you're ok with that then to get the feature you'd have to pay them....i mean donate $3 to unlock the feature.

anyway, my way of thinking is simple, no reason to have apps that' you aren't or won't be using use up resources.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CP-93:
Hey guys,

Does using adb commands to enable aggressive dose in greenify trip knox or anything? i dont wanna root my device due to all the restrictions added (only charging to 80% etc) but would like to use aggressive dose in greenify
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] MACHEK:
No it doesn't
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] note3userr:
Any suggestions to improve standby battery drain? I lose about 10% overnight. My old 6p with a old battery only lost like 2% . Other than that I can't complain about the battery life
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CalvinL:
I tried greenify and it didn't seem to help at all, so I'm probably not going to bother even "donating" for the unlocked version. For Bk disabler, I just disabled anything with bixby in the name. But I don't think it's really the phone's bloatware causing this battery drain because other people aren't experiencing it. I honestly have no idea what's causing it.

I am using face unlock with no AoD, only widgets being Steam, Dictionary, and Samsung Weather.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Shuthefrontdoor:
I use to use package disablers and noticed that when I don't I get better battery life. I feel if you disable something particular maybe another app keeps pinging for it which causes more battery drain, just my 2 cents. But this is my battery life yesterday after heavy useage as I was my day off, gps blue tooth location on always, no aod, primarily surfing internet, YouTube, couple games, Spotify alot.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] RaymondPJR:
I've never used adb. Are you saying I can get increased functionality out of Greenify using adb without rooting?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] note3userr:
You can use aggressive doze
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Venom0642:
Outstanding battery life on AT&T Note 8, just got home from work!

Here's what i have used been on all day on Telegram, and Google Plus some XDA Labs, Plus on Tapatalk, location on battery saving and brightness at 94%, and few YouTube videos! And AOD on!