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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] force70:
Yes this is even more concerning.

There are many questions surrounding this whole BS oem unlock situation and no definitive answers thus far.

So after making a mess of the note 7 for everyone worldwide they decided to just screw people who mod their phones this time I guess?

sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MeltdownSpectre:
Inb4 OEM Unlock option doesn't exist. [emoji14]

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In that case, it's been a week since I activated my phone, so if all goes well, OEM Unlock should appear later today for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Fen-X:
Thanks for the information. Didn't expect this kind of thing.

I really hope that it's a time-based because until now i've no purchased mine yet, waiting that the problem to be defintivly solved;)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
I don't think they screwed us intentionally (if that even matters), I think they intended to make people wait 1 week before modifying the device (for whatever reason) but the countdown implementation is buggy and they failed to document this "feature" and inform their support channels of what was happening. People like us are very much a minority among their sales numbers and what is a big deal for us probably isn't even a blip on their radar.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] me_ashman:
Patience?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] simple23227:
Mannn, reading this thread making me fuzzy. I just placed an order for the Note 8 international version N950F on amazon. I do hope mine has the OEM unlock option. I'll root the baby as soon as the option becomes available.

Where do you guys get your international version of the galaxy note 8 ??
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] force70:
I buy all mine at a local store here in toronto (except my note FE, had to use ebay) but havent bothered yet on the 8 till this crap gets sorted out first.

This might be the first note since the note 2 I dont buy.

sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jpinoy:
What's the verdict? Was OEM Unlock on after the first boot after enabling Dev mode?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] force70:
The week wait is one thing.. that's liveable if that's what it really is.

But having OEM unlock disappear again is another and there have been a few reports of that.

This is a huge problem and will cause alot of issues for users without much experience.

Im not buying until its resolved.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] recepo1:
Does anybody else besides me have the taiwan version SM-N950F/DS? If so does your show oem unlock?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] shouren04:
From Clove, it's confirmed yes. I got mine from Clove yesterday (in the US, shipped DHL on Fri), powered it on with no SIM installed, went straight to dev options, OEM unlock is there. And it has never disappeared on me either, just installed the OTA updated 5 mins ago, it's still there.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] thegreenthief:
Lol, this is almost exactly what happened to me. Flashed TWRP, rebooted, and then got stuck in a boot loop prior to recovery. Had to flash stock firmware to get out of it, and now OEM Unlock option in gone and I can't flash anything via Odin.

Stuck until the OEM Unlock option comes back... grrrr. On the plus side, I tripped KNOX as well -- no more sweet, sweet Samsung Pay. *eye roll*
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
I get my clove note 8 thursday. Can't wait to finally have a rootable note 8 lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
what scares me is if the disappearing act of the oem unlock happens after twrp, then each time after a full flash to recover the device, counter gets reset and then an other week of wait till its back?

this would mean even if the oem unlock appears, its futile to even think of flashing a custom recovery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
Yeah, I think their implementation is buggy and that's why some people haven't got OEM Unlock after the 1 week has elapsed and some have had OEM Unlock disappear again. Samsung probably decided that 95% of buyers wouldn't even know how to enable Developer Options, let alone notice the missing OEM Unlock option, so they didn't test it properly. I can't imagine that was high on their list of priorities as the release deadline approached.

If the feedback from their support channels is that the mysteriously invisible OEM Unlock is causing a lot of grief, they'll probably fix it in an update.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Fen-X:
this is the question I was wondering about.

Maybe it will be more resonable to buy an s8+...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
Hey mate, I am in the exact same boat as you. I also got my phone last Friday and am also on TEL/TEL/TEL. I've been keeping an eye out for any other Telstra users to see if any of us get the OEM unlock. I'm hoping we are in the same boat as everyone else who has got the OEM unlock after one week. The most positive thing I have seen so far is a Vodafone user in Aus which was Vodafone branded and he got the unlock. So far I have not seen any other Telstra users as yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
had one for 3 days and returned it.

i want root.

i want custom recovery.

i want a note 8.

one cant go without the other.

i feel like im going to have to return this piece of ****e at a loss and get a korean or a uk version.

freaking samdung i hate you and love you at the same time. but it's more 60/40 now
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
Have you got the Snapdragon version?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Fen-X:
lol....agree with you my friend.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
might as well be. its the signapore duos. you know, the one that everyone hates lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xxx42069:
Boom!! Done and done, easy peasy lemon squeezy. Oem unlock was there right out of the box, flashed twrp, flashed magisk, flashed tmobile csc, profit! Proud owner of a brand new rooted international note 8 with all tmobile stuff working including VoLTE and wifi calling. This thing is such a bad ass beast. I'm off to play with it some more.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
:crying:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jpinoy:
The eBay vendor said they will get a shipment in tomorrow or Thursday, they will check it for OEM Unlock. If it's not there, they will refund me the full price as I returned my phone unopened already and it's in their hands as of Monday.

Once I hear we are refunding you, I'm placing my order at Clove UK :D

Thanks for the info on your Clove UK purchase.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] wrollo:
On the plus side, at least this dumb delay provides more time for devs to iron out some of the bugs in the custom ROMs. Fingers crossed the time delay is a thing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] me_ashman:
Is everyone in that much of a rush to root? I only used the unlock to flash the indian rom on mine much later when updates were coming in thick
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
Yep I hear you, fingers crossed. Although it would be nice to have Viper... (and a heap of other bits as well) :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] anthonykash:
Does anyone have any info regarding the Verizon version. N950U.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MeltdownSpectre:
Those have permanently locked bootloaders, and this thread is for the Exynos N950F only.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ohwow1980:
I do, and it does not have Oem unlock
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Mattycee:
I am yet to see anyone on Telstra in Australia have OEM unlock show in their settings, anyone on here who is with Telstra have the OEM unlock in their Developer Options?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
All that and you didn't even install a custom ROM?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xxxxcoopers:
Oh wait.....................

Nope me either bro.

My missus works in digital business and says good luck.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xxx42069:
Nope, don't see a need for it right now. I'm perfectly happy with it the way it is. If I get bored or the need arises I certainly will. Right now, I couldn't be happier. I'm a believer in "if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it".
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
So you rooted just to flash firmware and csc from t-mobile, stuff you could have done without root [emoji849]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xxx42069:
No buddy, I rooted to install and do other things which I won't talk about here. I have my reasons.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] recepo1:
ok thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
Ok Mr FBI [emoji13]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ultramag69:
Yes, but was a generic Note 8. Had Telstra SIM card in and on the 8th day OEM Unlock in in developer settings...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] samueldewit:
My note 8 (SM-950F) has the OEM unlock button. :)

Buildnumber: NMF26X.N950FXXU1AQI1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
From where? [emoji3]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] samueldewit:
I bought it in The Netherlands, from the provider "Tele 2". I provided a screenshot to "proof" it.

Picture: https://imgur.com/a/HQ4T1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] willcor:
OEM option again disappeared.

I originally got unlock option - + 1/2 days ago.

I then enabled the OEM option

The OEM option has disappeared and reappeared about 4 times that i know off.

When it disappeared again, (few minutes back)

i booted into download mode.

It states OEM LOCK : OFF

So i understand it means it recognizes that the

device has been unlock...? OFF

or does it mean its.. OEM is switched off.?

Anybody to clearify ?

see screenshot
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
It means you switched it off when it was available. It can't enable itself. Only the option can show up send disappear. You should be good.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] willcor:
Point is i had OEM enabled (on)

before it disappeared.

Now it's saying .... OEM is Off ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
Wow then I have no idea lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] willcor:
So for example....

if you had it OEM enabled and rooted or custom

recovery.. etc

Then ths happens?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
I think it should be ok?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] willcor:
Ha.. guess what ... OEM showing again.!

Enough to freak out

See screenshot

Going to see what download mode says
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] willcor:
Ok OEM, switch is back. Showing.

I booted in Download mode and it Says OEM : OFF

So i asked again.... what it means in download mode

OEM : OFF...?

Remember i have OEM switch enabled in Developer Option and is now visible again.

Comments anbody?

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] willcor:
Sorry forgot to attach screenshot /photo
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dr.ketan:
OEM lock off means you can flash custom stuff
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] willcor:
Thanks, it's good to see you watching /following

this thread...!!

Post note

So i can say, even if OEM disappeared

in Developers Option, i found it is still enabled

Re Download mode (see photos)

At least give me some peace of mind.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MeltdownSpectre:
It has now been a week exactly since I activated my Note 8 (20th Sept), and no OEM Unlock option has appeared. :/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
15 days and still no unlock, not so sure about this time factor, seems like there is a little more going on than that.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sun2sunny:
i have no oem unlock option in developers mode but i have status in downloading mode

FAP LOCK: OFF

OEM LOCK: OFF

Can i flash or not?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] turilo:
Yep nothing here for me also for OEM unlock to show up. Been a week now for me unless all that Odin flashing of firmware messed it up.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MeltdownSpectre:
I also flashed the latest ROM at the time (AQI1) immediately after activating the phone, so not sure if that had an effect on this or not.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
i think what he wanted to say is were are quite envious of you... lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] discothan:
This is very interesting set of comments.

Even if OEM unlock is not available in the Developer Options of the screen, several of you are now reporting that OEM LOCK: OFF is being displayed using a secondary tool.

Is this a valid statement?

Can the steps be outlined for others with no OEM unlock to perform and validate?

Additionally, has anyone successfully flashed after seeing the OEM LOCK: OFF?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sun2sunny:
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Any one tested this?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] krabman:
He started with the oem unlock there and unlocked it. Since then the option has been disappearing and reappearing. It does sound like the oem unlock is active for him despite it's showing up and disappearing, he would need to flash something to verify it. Not going to help us though if we can't get the switch to show up in the first place. I promise you I see that switch I'm going to have TWRP installed and updates blocked instantly.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
Guys those who are still waiting for oem unlock button to be appeared and for those it appeared, can you please tell us all that

1. Did you guys register Samsung pay?

2. Did you guys setup secure folder?

I have done both above and its been 10 days but still no oem unlock button appeared. There is some kind of pattern which now we need to try to unveil otherwise depending on the Samsung is not a good idea
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] 1em:
Picked up a device this morning from Vodafone store (unbranded/unlocked)

I did set up my device, and updated it to the latest firmware before enabling Dev Options (by 7 clicks) - After which no OEM unlock option and can not tell if it was there prior to updating. Phone been live 4 hours..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
I did both of those things and did the OTA firmware update when it became available. I didn't flash anything, such as a different firmware or try to change CSC. I got the OEM Unlock option exactly a week after 1st boot/setup.

I wonder whether this is connected to signing into a Samsung account. Or whether flashing messes with the process and if you flash in download mode before the OEM Unlock option appears, you won't get it?

So, further to the above questions...

3. Did you sign into your Samsung account (or create one)?

4. Did you flash anything via Odin?

If we can develop a set of questions, we can start to get a better picture of why some have it after a week and some don't by looking at correlations.

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Check for OEM Unlock option in 7 days time. It's highly unlikely that it was there before but may appear a week after the 1st boot. Just to be on the safe side, you might want to consider signing into your Samsung account or setting up a Samsung account (if you haven't already done so). There's a possibility that doing so enables the OEM Unlock option after a week.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] 1em:
Thanks mate :good: so just staying patient for a week, okay :) No expectations but fingers are crossed :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] GeoffNZ:
Hi guys.

New Zealand Note 8 owner here.

Purchased phone (SM-N910F through Vodafone) last week on Thursday 21/09 & discovered I was missing the OEM unlock.

Updated my phone to latest updates, logged into my Samsung account etc and still no OEM unlock option.

Woke this morning (Thursday 28/09 - exactly a week later) to find the option magically appeared in Dev options.

Immediately enabled it & shut off software updates.

AP: N950FXXU1AQI1

CP: N950FXXU1AQHB

CSC: N950FOLN1AQHF

Model: SM-N950F

Another instance of the OEM unlock appearing after a week running time.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] LongGer64:
Just wondering, will the registering of the warranty also affecting the unlock and the counting time starts from the moment of warranty registration?

Got my device more than 10 days. Only registered my warranty 2 days ago. No OEM unlock yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
That seems unlikely. I got the option after 7 days and I never registered a warranty. Considering that tripping Knox will void your warranty, I can't see why the Unlock counter would be tied to registering a warranty.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
Hey Mate, looks like there are three of us I've found so far on TEL brand. I'm on day 6 and obviously no OEM as yet. I'll report back tomorrow evening as I activated around 2pm. I've also logged into my Samsung account and activated Samsung Pay today (although I don't think I'll need it as I can use Android Pay and NAB pay fine with Magisk). Glad to see a couple more TEL users about in the forum. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
did you manually flash a firmware?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] discothan:
New Note8 unlocked from never-msrp is legit!

UPDATE for Note8 Dual Sim bought from ebay seller never-msrp!

Model: SM-N950F/DS

Android security patch level: 1 August 2017

Ordered on Monday Sept 25 and arrived Wednesday Sept 27.

My Note8 device came with "OEM unlock" option. I was able to enable/disable.

I then installed my GoogleFi sim into the Note8, downloaded phone updates and rebooted. "OEM unlock" option still available.

I then installed my ATT sim into SIM1 and GoogleFi into SIM2 and rebooted. "OEM unlock" option still available.

I then started installing all my apps/games and rebooted. "OEM unlock" option still available.

I will keep this thread updated if things change.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
Do you know if the seller had booted up the phone before they sent it?

What region did this phone originate from?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] LongGer64:
Thanks.

This clears one of the possible doubt I had.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] discothan:
I can't tell. The 'security sticker' for the product doesn't seem to be tampered with.

Also, the Note8 black box itself was not wrapped...so possibly.

I have no knowledge of the origination of the phone. Is there a way to tell from all these serial/build numbers?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
go to dl mode and look at carrier id, XSP is signapore.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] LongGer64:
Yes, I did straights from the box.

Fw from Sammobile.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] discothan:
Carrier is set to XSP.

"OEM unlock" option is still available after reboot from DL mode.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
well then there we have it. it seems anything flashed since 1st unboxing will either delay or permanently keep hidden oem unlock.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dmd3746:
Can someone explain the model numbers, meaning i just watn to know which ones have unlockable bootloaders that will work in the US with AT&T. It looks like 950F,N, and FD will but it is confugsiong, i am going to buy a note 8 and i need to be able to unlock bootloader and root, i have seen a bunch of them listed with "Samsung Galaxy Note 8 SM-N950F/DS " I know the models that end in F like my galaxy s7 edge is sm - g935f, what is the DS and does that version have a bootloder you can unlcok? I looked t osee where to post this and couldn't find a place that looked right sorry if this is the wrong place.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
Yeah, hopefully it only delays/resets the timer clock. We'll need the others who don't have OEM Unlock after 7-8 days to confirm if they also flashed files via Odin.

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You want one with a Exynos chip, not the Snapdragon version.

https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jpinoy:
nvm.. got beat to the response.. lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
I am the one who flashed via Odin a few days ago and no OEM unlock option appeared in my device, today is 10th day I turned on the device and 5th day when I flashed via Odin
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
Looks like there's a pattern emerging. Can you check for OEM Unlock again when it's been 7-8 days since you flashed via Odin? Please let us know if it's there or not. Hopefully, you only reset the countdown timer.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
Sure mate, more than happy to help users in copping up the new implemented hurdle. Samsung is going to be new Apple soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] liquidguru:
Just picked my N8 in Indonesia, first day of release. Checked and no, no OEM Unlock. Checked the two display units they had, one had the option the other didn't. The one that did have had been on display much longer than the other...

I'll wait for a week or so to see what happens.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
Thank you, gentlemen. It's this kind of info that will help us figure out WTF Samsung has done and how everyone can get their OEM Unlock option visible.

*tips hat*
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Hey there. Could you please check your Tapatalk pm? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
[MENTION=480307]Torquemada288[/MENTION] I think also changing sim can make difference, I am planning to use Optus from Kogan. Maybe I will get it sooner as Optus is bigger network than Kogan. My google play store is also not recognizing my note 8 I cannot install apps from google play store web version, maybe same like this Samsung is not considering my phone is active. What do you say?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
I can't see that changing your SIM would have any effect on the OEM Unlock timing or your issues with the Google Play store.

What did you flash?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
latest xsa firmware, I think changing sim can effect as well as in this thread users were reporting to use Singapur sim to get OEM unlock that's why I thought this could also reset the timer (if there is any for OEM unlock button)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] liquidguru:
Can you send PM on XDA? I don't have tapatalk on any device anymore
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
I think that at the time, people believed that you had to use a SIM from the same region as the phone originated from to get OEM Unlock. This theory has largely been disproven.

I think the timer is started either by booting for the 1st time or setting the phone up. It's also possible that setting up the Samsung account also comes into play but we don't yet have the data to conclusively prove that or eliminate it as a possibility.