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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
It's just in another thread someone was asking about using H932 on Verizon. It doesn't have CDMA, so I don't recommend it -- but it would have Verizon's LTE bands. I just didn't know for sure if LTE band 13 was already enabled or would need to be manually enabled with the hidden menu to work.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
No CDMA radio would definitely not be recommended for Verizon or Sprint use. The phone is capable of using any of the bands I mentioned. The only difference is, it has T-Mobile aggregation and band 71. If you were to put in a SIM where the carrier used band 13 for LTE, it would just work with no need to enable anything special. Well, as long as it was SIM unlocked.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
Bell is horrible lol. They gave me a credit to my account for almost $800, and never adjusted my upgrade eligibility date. getting that sorted out now, but at least it was quicker than the 30 days they told me. They are not shipping me a new device, and the corp store I bought it from has no stock available and does not know when they will get it in.

Now I have to decide if I want the V30 again, or jump to another device. I was playing the 'screen lottery' before, do I need to play the LTE band/reception lottery too? I have not had to think of LTE reception in years. I'm soured on this device, but no other meets my needs ergonomically as well as this one. I have not had this kind of luck with a device since my G4...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] karendar:
Bell is indeed horrible... ;)

As for the LTE, I changed which ranges are active in hidden menu and my LTE works great on rogers since... Also confirmed the phone is SIM unlocked, which surprised me.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
Were you experiencing issue with LTE reception prior to changing the ranges? How do you go about accessing the menu and changing the ranges?

Thanks for any help! I want to come back to this device lol
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] karendar:
*#546368#*933#

Field test

Modem settings

LTE-CA settings, selected setting under all-enable (b4 and b17). I get two bars more lte indoors than I used to...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ennoozunu:
Has anyone noticed if the Canadian H933 model shows an LTE+ or LTA-A icon in the upper right by the signal bar when using LTE-A or CA like the Samsung S series does?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
Well when I click the top selection (ca enable. All-enable) it just said I have to restart. No further menus... I restarted. It had no effect.

Also tried Pcell b4 Scell b17. No change.

Not sure what setting was stock....

Hope I don't mess up this already terrible reception phone.

Just now I was inside. -106db lte which was I think 1 bar. IPhone had 3 bars on lte. I switched to HSPA and got 4 bars and around -87db

So at least the fear of not being able to make a call seems to not be an issue. The lte reception sucks. If at the least the phone would jump over to HSPA when it's that low on reception it would at least not completely fail to load things on data...

I'm in the same spot. I have 4 days till the end of my buyers remorse. And I do have some remorse. Annoyingly I actually love everything about the phone otherwise. (well no notification led and not having root is driving me nuts) It's just terrible reception on a phone in 2017 that cost about a grand its just rediculous. Typically let's make an awesome phone but forget to make it a phone... I also find the earpiece and the speaker to be not that great. They are both loud as hell but the earpiece is tinny and make people sound a mile away and the bottom speaker is kind of distorted.

Screen wise mine is nice an uniform. It does have off center blue. Which all phones have (go to a store an try, I was kind of surprised every phone does this) though it is a bit worse on the v30. The screen is also a bit heavy on the blue but thankfully you can adjust screen colour in the settings. Just turn blue and green all the way down and then it's a pretty accurate. Might be a bit red for some as I think most phones are a little blue in general.

In summary I also have no idea what phone I would move to if I returned this one. I was comparing/considering the pixel 2 xl but I don't want to give up wireless charging, sd card and dual camera.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ennoozunu:
One thing to remember is to not go by the bars on the upper right. Go by the signal strength in the about>network settings. LG appears to show less bars than others for the same actual signal strength.

On my wifes s7 edge it shows her as having 3 or 4 bars when mine says 1 or 2 BUT if we both check the signal strength in About>network (or sim status) it shows basically the exact same signal strength (the lg v30 was actually 1 or 2 db better with 1 more asu). Speed tests showed mine as 1 or 2 mb/s faster as well.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
I'm not going by the bars. I even said earlier exactly what you've seen. LG tends to show less bars compared to signal strength.

Only reason I bring up bars. Well two reasons. One its of course the thing we see more often then constantly looking at dB (i guess I could find a way to get dB in the status bar)

Second reason is unfortunately the only other active phone is have with me is an iPhone which does not have the ability to show dB. So I have go by bars.

There has to be some value to that tho. 1 bar on the v30 vs 3 of 4 on the iPhone. The iPhone most likely has to have more signal but of course no way to know for sure.

I unfortunately can't do anymore speed tests either. I chewed through way more data then I expected on but mine and my GF's phones so can't do any more tests. Even called bell to day I used a gig in a day just testing with zero sympathy. Kind of a pissed about that. Not my fault that I have to do testing on a new phone that might not perform as expected..
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ennoozunu:
I wouldn't trust the signal bars (or dots) on the iphone to be anywhere near accurate enough to compare to. iphone is known to have weaker signal strength in their intel modems and i'd bet are more optimistic when it comes to bars vs signal strength.

Also if there's that much variation in android phones in bar representations you can bet its the same with iphones. Unless you can find the actual signal strength on your iphone (which you can't anymore in ios 11 without jailbreak) I wouldn't base any conclusions on it.

Try comparing speed tests between the 2 instead to see what you get. Might give some more insight tho still not 100% accurate as network technology support will come into play.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
I edited but I can't do anymore speed tests. Using too much data but I agree that when I did it was more, well mildly more helpful.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] karendar:
Default setting is all enable... To be honest, I hope their Oreo release fixes LTE connectivity, so I'm gonna stick to it... I only have SOME problematic areas with Rogers when I compare to my Telus iphone, so I can live with it.

The earpiece, I can't say I have the same experience. Sound is loud and clear, better than my previous Moto Z force. However, I'm using VoLTE, don't know if that's your case. As for the bottom firing speaker, what I noticed that's an irritant to me is more that the way I hold my phone, I end up blocking the speaker. I don't expect much out of an onboard speaker, they've always been crappy to me, so not as much of an issue to me...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ennoozunu:
I hear ya. Those speed tests with faster speeds tend to eat a lot of data.

The only other option I can think of is if your able to make it to a bell store ask the staff with android phones to stand beside you and check their signal db and asu's in status.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
I wasn't saying the earpiece isn't loud and clear. It's both, very much both. But compared to my note 3 people sound a bit higher pitched and farther away. Overall they just sound less realistic but very easy to hear. I so have enhanced call quality or something turned on so I might try with that off.

Good idea with a bell rep. I would carry my old phone but switch sim cards is a pain in the ass. If I decide to keep my tablet plan I should be able to use that sim in my old phone to compare, likely be too late to return when I decide but oh well we'll see.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ern88:
Has anyone unlocked their LG v30s since it is now free to do so in Canada?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bnevets27:
Yours came locked? Bell said they were shipped unlocked though admittedly I haven't tried another sim as I don't have one atm.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ern88:
Ok. I got mine through Telus for Koodo. Wasn't sure if it was unlocked or not as well.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ennoozunu:
Specifically on Rogers. Anyone notice if the LTE icon changes to + or -a for CA?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] karendar:
I have no carrier aggregation in Montreal at all on Rogers... If I slap in my Telus SIM card I do.

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My V30 from Rogers came unlocked OOTB. I can use my Telus and Rogers SIM in it
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
All H933's are SIM unlocked out of the box
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
This is the only forum I can find anywhere that shows poor LTE reception. My colleague sent me a message this am complaining about his reception.

This might be a deal-breaker for me on this phone. Compromises on cell reception should not be a thing when buying a $1000 phone from your carrier in one of the most populous places in the country. Brutal.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I completely agree! The Greater Toronto Area is the most densely populated area of Canada.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Avengement:
Is there a root for this phone at this point in time? H933 of course.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
No! Most of the fastboot commands were removed from the bootloader by LG, making the possibility of root significantly harder, if possible.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Avengement:
Thanks.

Is there at least a way to remove the bloatware from the stock rom then?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Yes. ADB commands work well but some seem content with an LG Disabler app that basically let's you disable almost any app on the device.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] karendar:
Might be a software issue as well...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
I agree. Could be some tweaking needed on the software by the carriers that will come in a future update. The question is do I get another V30 and hope for an update that fixes the issue, or grab another device like the 2XL?

Almost pulled the trigger a few times today on the 2XL, but I like the V30 and its much cheaper. Going to mull it over for a few days.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] karendar:
Really depends on what you want, really... I needed the sd slot and quad dac, which the pixel 2 can't cover. I can live with antenna issues if it's software for now...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
I don't care about the quad dac, but love the SD card slot. I could live with reception issues as well if they were temporary. Setting it to hspa mode helped me keep a data connection, but I am a bit worried that this one will slip under the radar.

That said, the v30 was on for $189 on a contract a week and a bit ago. Now its up to $489. The 2XL goes from $630 for the 64gb to $759 for the 128gb. If I were looking at $189 vs $630/759 and an update will fox it for sure then it would be a no-brainer for me. But I'm still concerned that this won't get addressed anytime soon.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] karendar:
Keep in mind Oreo is right around the corner... I have hopes it'll fix it. ;)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
As mentioned, the Oreo update should be coming to the V30. Whether it makes it out before the end of the year or not is anyone's guess. I would guess conservatively to expect it by the end of January.

Whether you would be happy with the Pixel 2 XL only you can decide. The design is very different than the V30. The biggest reason to not get a Pixel 2 XL is the screen burn in issues. The reports of that happening seem to be a lot more common than it happening on the V30.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
I see that a lot of people tend to get burn in and retention mixed up. I have seen conversations about this surrounding the V30 as well.

The biggest drawback for me is the price of the 2XL and no SD card slot. I like the form factor of both, but prefer the power button implementation in the LG better. The camera setup is better on the Pixel too IMO. Audio is not a big deal for me, but having the audio jack makes it convenient when I need headphones in a pinch (I travel a lot and I have had to use airliner's headsets on my phone before...having proprietary dongles is just asking for trouble...I would hate to be on a 12 hour flight with no audio options, which has happened to me before when I had an iPhone that decided that I HAD to sync my device to iTunes before I could listen to music on my phone....)

If I thought for sure that Oreo would fix it I would try to be more patient. I'm going to pull the trigger on one or the other by this weekend though. Every device has its pros and cons, it what makes Android so interesting. But I had terrible luck with weird problems on my one and only other LG device (the G4) and now its starting to shape up to be a similar experience with the V30. I'm not sure how many chances I'm supposed to give them.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
In the end, only you can decide if the added cost is worth it. Personally, the wide angle camera on the V30/V30+ is an excellent selling point. Camera software usually sucks and even LG's could use some improvement. The manual settings might seem a bit overwhelming but messing around with them will quickly have you shooting photos you will be more than happy with. In my personal opinion, no smartphone out there now and in the recent future will be capable of replacing a DSLR.

Personal opinions aside, I do think the radio issues with the H933 will be corrected. When that is, only LG knows, of they are even aware of the issue. The Pixel 2 XL is also an LG device so that might have the same issue causing you poor reception. If you are happy with your V30 other than the radio issues, I would hold on to it a d wait it out. Once fixed, I don't think you will regret that decision.

Another thing to consider is to force it to stay on HSDPA until the next update. This should be possible in the battery saver settings.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
Took a look today and saw that the V30 is on sale again, $189cdn vs the $769cdn for the 2XL, so I ordered the V30 again (I splurged and added an additional year hardware warranty with battery replacement).

So looks like I'm all-in again on the V30 for good this time. I'll pop down to hspa until the next update comes in again so that I have some kind of data. I'll also take another look at the Google camera apk thats going around and see if there are any improvements there (but I thought the stock camera was 'fine').

Will take lots of screenshots of signal reception, etc. and keep a log so that I can compare when Oreo comes.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I think you made the right choice! Nothing else looks quite as nice as the V30 currently, at least in my opinion. The front and back glass, the feel of the device in-hand, the space-age feather weight to it, and the snappiness of the OS even though LG's skin is on top. It definitely has a broad range of supported bands that make it a great choice fkr those of us who travel a lot or may not want to feel locked into one specific carrier because of the device compatibility.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Avengement:
It appears that the LG Disabler has been removed from the play store.

ADB it is then.

Thanks for the quick reply.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
It ks back, just under a slightly different name and listed by a different developer. The LG Disabler thread has a link to the reposted app in the Play Store.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
I decided to give up on the V30. I got a replacement one and it would not read my right index finger (it has a scar on it). Might not sound like a huge deal but if you use the FPS on a large phone you need to be able to use this. I noticed that the Pixel 2 XL 128GB was on sale for almost the same price as the V30 so I jumped on it. Funny thing is, the 2XL also has trouble reading that same finger...I wonder if LG used the same part in both phones? No other phone I have EVER tried had an issue with it. Works better on the 2XL, but not much...

One thing that is incredibly better after 24 hours use is my LTE reception. I have not lost a signal the in places the V30 did out here in Bowmanville. I was getting speedtest results off about 9-11mbits down yesterday on the replacement V30, getting 111-120mbits up on the 2XL. The real test will be when I get back to work in Ajax on Monday, but so far the 2XL blows the V30 out of the water on LTE support around here. Hopefully the Oreo update corrects this on the V30. The cameras on the Pixel in auto (both front and back) seems way better in auto. I tried the Google camera on the V30 using the settings posted on here and the Pixel def does a better job on auto for me. I'll miss trying out Graphy though as I loved that idea.

It's early yet, but the V30 seemed to have better battery life than the 2XL, but I'll need a few more days. The battery on the V30 wowed me constantly...it was strange waking up and seeing some drain on my device this am on the 2XL. Could be bugs in Oreo 8.1, I dunno.

Also, the screen on the V30 I got yesterday (manuf in Nov) seemed nicer to me than the one I had on the one created in October. Could have been placebo, but when I compared that new V30 to my wife's S7, I thought the new V30 was better. Completely uniform at all colours and shades at 15% brightness...completely flawless, but a little more blue tint on it than the older V30. In comparison, I think the Pixel's screen is a slight step below my wife's S7, which was my opinion on my first V30 lol.

So I think LG is improving the screens on the V30. I looked really hard for any issues on the new one and could not find any, no matter how hard I looked, even when I knew I was bringing it back.

Anyways I'll check back in here when Oreo comes out for the V30 and see if it corrects the LTE for folks. I have a colleague at work who bought one after I did and I want to help him out. The V30 is a great device, but the compromise on reception followed by the compromise on the FPS turned me off. When I saw the 128GB 2XL on sale I decided to jump ship. On a side note, I have a bunch of V30 screen protectors here, more on the way, as well as a Spigen case lol I have to unload now. Accessories are expensive when you are picky.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
I bought the 2XL, but going through their cdn thread they had some LTE issues and were able to fix by doing this:

https://xdaforums.com/pixel-2-xl/ho...discussion-t3688059/post74772183#post74772183

See if that helps!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] karendar:
Reading up on the issue, it's not really the same problem... It's a reception issue. LTE works fine as a whole.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
I've been using my Pixel 2XL for a few days at home at at work, and here is what I am seeing compared to the V30s I have had (and my colleague has):

1. I have had zero data disconnections on the 2XL compared to the V30 which would disconnect at work and on hikes near the town I live in. In fact, I have stayed on LTE+ since I got the 2XL on Friday

2. At home in Bowmanville, I was getting about 10 times the download and speed on LTE on the 2XL vs the V30 (the 2XL getting about 110-120mbits vs the V30 getting about 9-11mbits).

3. Here at work in Ajax at my desk, where I would have data cut in and out constantly on the V30 (at my desk I would lose LTE connection and the radio would not go back to hspa on its own, and if I sat next to the window I would get a weak connection), I am getting about 60mbits download on LTE. Looks like the 2XL is connected to the same LTE band (band 2) as the V30 tried to, and getting -104.0dBm which I think is similar to what the V30 was doing. Thats a big difference in user experience...60mbits on the 2XL vs nothing on the V30 (or manually switching to hspa and sitting closer to the window on the V30).

So the V30 and 2XL here at work seem to both be reporting similar results on the LTE discovery app, but real world usage is vastly different. So [MENTION=3116388]jcsww[/MENTION] you are right, it seems that the software is not tuned properly which is a shame. Hopefully Oreo corrects it.

My colleague is frustrated with his data connection on his V30, and now he is saying that his camera lens got a crack even though he did not drop it (he uses the Spigen Tough Armor). He pointed me to a reddit thread where someone mentioned it. Something to keep an eye on. I told him to try to rma it or see if his credit card can help with a repair. He does not seem too happy at the moment (and since I recommended to him that he try the V30 I get to hear alllll about it).
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I am glad you have something you are happy with. The Pixel 2 XL may cost more but out of the box, it has provided you with a better experience connectivity wise. I have heard about the camera glass issue. It isn't Gorilla Glass 5 on the camera and with it also being much thinner, it does seem to crack easily for some. Change or keys in the same pocket are just a couple of the reasons I have heard.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
I'm going to keep an eye on this thread for sure as I think the V30 is the most complete package hardware-wise. I gave up the wireless charging on the Pixel (I have 4 wireless charging pads), and while I am not much of an audio person I do use the headphones while travelling, so I don't like the idea of the dongle. What I gain is connectivity, wicked auto camera, and OS updates (the tinkerer in me loves that).

Appreciate all your help and testing as you passed through my area! Will be interesting to see how your US V30s do when you come to Ajax again. I'm genuinely interested in seeing how this works out for the V30 owners.