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[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] XeLLaR*:
Because Qualcomm what?

1. Qualcomm has nothing to do with the Honor 8, as far as i know there is not a single chipset in this phone that comes from Qualcomm.

2. Qualcomm has no saying about android in general. They have to follow the Android developer guidelines just like Huawei with their Kirin SoC's or Samsung with their Exynos SoC's.

If you're talking about what happened to the QSD800 devices, it had something to do with the chipset not being compatible with Vulcan. Qualcomm cant look into the future, they didnt know google was about to add Vulcan support to Android, so they didnt implement it. If they knew, im sure they would have done it. About that, i looked into the datasheet and i cant see a reason why the Kirin 950 wouldnt be compatible to Oreo, all requirements are met.

The rest is in the hands of Huawei and Chipset suppliers. (Honor has to wait for them to deliver proper drivers for Camera, Hal, RF, CDMA and AMP, NFC, WiFi and GPS - Sony, NXP, Via, QuaTek, Skyworks & Broadcom, the rest comes from Hisilicon which is a daughter firm of Huawei)

Lets say there wont be an update to Oreo, im pretty sure it wont be Honors fault.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] n1ls:
Am I the only one that doesn't want this incremental update? Zero appeal at all and I'm sure it would only mess up the phone just like Nougat. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Just keep the security updates coming regularly. In fact, the only reason I bought this phone was because I'd been told this won't get any version updates, unlike Motorololola or Boogle phones.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
Come in guys. It's too early to make a conclusion. Only a handful of devices received the Oreo update until today. Let's wait maybe until next year or for further announcements.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] mexicandroid:
I bought this phone cash in the U.S.A. On October of last year when it first came out. If we don't get an Oreo update I will never buy a Huawei/Honor phone. I will go to Motorola, they have a great track record for timely updates, or Apple, you get 4 major updates
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
If OTAs are your main concern then go with Pixel.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] mexicandroid:
True but when the company makes a promise they should keep it. That's one the reasons I got the phone. Plus it's been months since there's been a security update, they can at least do those especially when there's so many vulnerabilities.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ayush rao:
The August security patch is rolling out to users. I haven't received it yet on my FRD-L04 but many are.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
Honor US is slower to give updates than Honor India. :rolleyes:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
Honor EU is the same. 6X received it yesterday
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
Well I would say EU is faster than US.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
I'm Italian and no new updates for now, in USA they're receiving it
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ayush rao:
But the thing is we were on the April patch whereas EU was on May or June security patch.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] quetiser:
I get update on my L09 today, here im Poland. It is like every 2-3 months there is new update
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] evilpaul13:
In the US we got it last update rolled out 4/16. It's now 9/15. I think it was six months for the prior monthly security update.

We were promised 18 or 24 months of updates. I think we've gotten four updates total in the 13 months since the phone launched.

I seriously doubt we'll see Oreo. We can't get basic security fixes. Why do actual work? I don't think they're even bothering bringing over there Honor 9 to the US market. Not that Ii'd buy it for $400 for three months of support...
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Days Tech:
It is just unknown at the moment. I really hope it will come out, though.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
We all do man.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
Actually I don't know why in the US updates are this slow. I know that in Europe they start always in Poland and then in the other countries, but for now we received an update every 3/4 months.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] evilpaul13:
I should have complained sooner. I got the B388 update, finally, later in the day. So I'm no longer running with the February security patch, but August, at last.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] KoumiCZ:
By Honor Support Switzerland:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] DjDeni:
What is your update number?

Here in Croatia we still have B389

Is the VR bug finally fixed?

Thank You
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ayush rao:
I still didn't receive the update but I am running B385. Which firmware were u running since we got the April patch?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Same as you, one member in a Facebook group posted a screenshot with b388, I looked immediately and nothing yet, I'll check back tomorrow

Edit: from the screenshot, it says there's live photo and some optimizations
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
Have a look at FF.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] quetiser:
B394.

Sorry, but I dont know what bug are you talking about :/
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] DjDeni:
When you go to youtube search "honor 8 vr bug" and you will see what Im I talking about!

Then go search on YouTube "360 video"

Open any one of them and see that 360 video is working, just click on the vr googles icon on the bottom right corner and see if it spins like crazy or its ok?

I have this bug ever since updating to emui 5/ nugat..

Everything was fine on 4.1/Marshmallow
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] quetiser:
In my opinion it is working smooth and stable.

No shaking, no lags.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
No bugs for me. FRD-L09C432B389
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] DjDeni:
Im on the same update,not all phones have this issue, but most of them do!

I would return it as a malfunction but funny thing is that on 4.1 all was well but now on 5.0/Nougat its not working.. so Im sure its a software bug..and I dont want to be without a phone for some time while its on service :/ ..

(https://youtu.be/aL3zXHiUyaw)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] netvorCZEK:
No surprise here, it was so obvious that they will not release Oreo. We should be glad that they roll out A7.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Djok:
I'm in Poland, have L09 model and still no updates. Why? It is normal?

Wysłane z mojego FRD-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
Actually for the L09C432 is being released the B394 update
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] quetiser:
Click inside updates " download last full update".
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Djok:
I know but why i can't see this update and other people with L09C432 in the same country yes?

Wysłane z mojego FRD-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
I don't know. For the B131 update I had to wait 3 weeks for it. They release it gradually even in the same country.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] mexicandroid:
Got excited for a second because of the size and since it was the first update in about 6 months but not Oreo. [emoji19] Meanwhile my daughter's IPhone 5S from 2013 still getting updates. Gotta give to Apple on that one
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
Thats too early. Lets wait till year end or December.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] iceepyon:
Seeing as the Honro 8 was released just last year. It should still get the update to Oreo sometime later on. You should just be patient,
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
Even until Q1 next year it's still possible.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
But it will get for sure.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
That's the only certain thing for now.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] lifetimes:
I received the B388 update after being on the 385 for three months. August update.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] fix-this!:
Oreo isn't really that much of a huge update over nougat. the honor can certainly handle it but I'm doubtful we will get it.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Lukke2804:
I think it will get the update
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
It will get for sure
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] xynewageyx:
Honor 8 geht the Update.......http://www.gadgetraid.com/2017/08/huawei-honor-android-oreo-update/
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
Honor 8 will get for sure. Not based on the link shared but i know.

That link is not at all useful and just seems to be a speculation as honor 7 and 5x doesn't have the official Nougat, how can they say Oreo update for them without any source of info.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
What a waste of time on sources with no official confirmation. Just speculation.

And people saying it will get for sure without providing any solid evidence... waste again. Decreases forum quality.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
Because few things are not disclosed as news or information on websites. Few knows because they get information from trusted sources as offline information which they cant post as screenshot or something.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Ascertion:
They have an Oreo beta sign up sheet don't they for India users?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
I shared one for all models that were included in the form and yes, we had H8 as well. Thats why i said few things are not disclosed on social media or any websotes but we get through our trusted channels and are reliable one. Shared similar news on 5C Nougat, OTA updates for 6X much before they were even rolled out, even before FF.

Recently posted for honor 8 pro and 6X and it will get Oreo for sure.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
If we wouldn't get it then I would just move on to a custom ROM earlier than planned, but if we get Oreo then I hope it's better than EMUI 5. I love the phone for the hardware not the skin that it has and I really hope they improve, but as some people have said before I'm fairly certain we will get Oreo as they said 2 years of software support and we're only about 1 year in.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Nope. It states nowhere Oreo for Honor 8. Just Nougat and above for a list of devices, including Honor 8. Not conclusive.

I don´t want to be a spoiler and people have the right to say whatever they want. But given past history of Huawei/Honor I would be more prudent in leading others in disappointment.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] CommieColin:
I spoke with an Honor representative the other day and he said, "I don't want to lie to you; the Honor 8 will not be getting Oreo." Not surprised at all; they pulled the same **** with the 5X and Nougat. Stop buying these phones; the company doesn't care about us
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
Ouch.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] CommieColin:
I know. But then again, I just stumbled across that form for beta testers for EMUI 6 and Honor 8 was listed as a device! So who the hell knows anymore? I just wish they'd tell us.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
Beta tester for which region?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] KoumiCZ:
Source please!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] CommieColin:
https://xdaforums.com/honor-8/how-to/honor-beta-testers-recruitment-nougat-t3678533

Here ya go! Looks like it's for India only atm, but I'm sure if they release it there they'll release it in other places, like the US :)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
Yes indeed. I posted for India version but these are not limited and if one region gets it, all will get it for sure
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] CommieColin:
I really hope that's the case. I almost returned the phone, but I might just keep it now, haha
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
Like I said before, it's a little too early to make conclusions. :)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] CommieColin:
Of course :) A guy can dream, right?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] adriansticoid:
Right. Maybe we can use the Law of Attraction on this one. :laugh:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] lelezxy:
I can not find honor v8
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] _DaveP_:
I had this reply from Honor o. Twitter, no direct reference to the Honor8 but it was in answer to my question if it would get it.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] tmom:
Yes i also confirmed and they said nogut is the last possible update for Honor 8
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] x-geo:
for me... ist too recent and have de hw for it.... they will release it
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
Guys let's say this.

If we don't get honor 8 officially

We will still be able to get oreo emui unofficially

So don't worry
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Coic93:
Guys,

Honor 8 in my opinion will get Oreo update. Honor hasn't announced official that H8 will get update,why? It is very simple, the want to push H9 sales (or Mate 9, P10..) and when they reach some sales target, they they will realest official information about update for H8 to Oreo.

If they put information now that H8 will get Oreo, a lot of people will chose H8 to buy, because is cheaper that H9 but they will have later Android software.

They need to sell this year Smartphone and after to update devices from previous year.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] ayush rao:
U r probably right but I'm pretty sure they r just waiting to unveil the next EMUI version with the Mate 10. They waited till the Mate 9 released last year before announcing Nougat for Honor 8.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Rickymills:
Hi there! Thank you for reaching Honor Device USA. How may I be of help today?

Steven Summers	11:06:45 am

Hi Frank

Frank Cortes Molina	11:06:51 am

Hello Steven. =)

Steven Summers	11:06:52 am

Will the honor 8 be getting 8.0

Frank Cortes Molina	11:06:53 am

Receive a warm welcome to our live chat!!

My name is Frank, how can I assist you today?

Oh, waooo, great question, Steven.	11:07:06 am

Let me find some information for you.

=)

Steven Summers	11:07:32 am

Sure

Frank Cortes Molina	11:07:44 am

Thank you.

I was able to find a list of the phones updating to Oreo.

Mate 10 (which includes additional features like EMUI 6.0).

Huawei P10 (VTR-L09, VTRL29, VTR-AL00, VTR-TL00)

Huawei P10 lite (Lx1, Lx2, Lx3)

Huawei Honor 9 (AL00, AL10, TL10)

Huawei Y7 Prime

Huawei Nova 2 (PIC - AL00)

Huawei Y3 (L02 / 03 / L22 / L23 U00)

Huawei Y7

Huawei Y6

Huawei Y5

Huawei Honor 8 Pro

Huawei P10 Plus

Huawei Mate 9 Porsche Design

Huawei Mate 9

Huawei Mate 9 Pro

Huawei Nexus 6P

These updates may vary depending on the countries, continents, and carriers of each device.

Unfortunately, Honor 8 is not on the list of the devices updating to Oreo, Steven. =(	11:09:33 am

Steven Summers	11:10:47 am

Interesting.

Frank Cortes Molina	11:11:03 am

I am sorry, Steven. =(

Steven Summers	11:11:04 am

So how the honor 8 pro is supported but not the honor 8?

It is just a processor difference.

Frank Cortes Molina	11:11:37 am

I don't have that infotmation with me, it could be because Honor 8 pro it's only in Europe.

Steven Summers	11:12:09 am

interesting, thanks frank

bye

Frank Cortes Molina	11:12:23 am

It's no trouble, on the contrary, I'm delighted to be able to help you with the correct information.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
That can go throu itself in garbage.

He just made a quick google search

So don't trust that stuff*. Honor 6x isn't included in list and it's been confirmed it'll get it.. Also huawei hasn't announced officially which will get oreo so just stop asking support because they can't give you proper info

I'm sure huawei will give us a statement tomorrow
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] netvorCZEK:
Honor will not release Oreo update for Honor 8, this was said 10 times before.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
Agreed. Honor 7 is one of them. Fully capable phone but not even Android 7. Just an example. There are many such devices
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
Let's wait n see
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SharxX8:
Is there any hope of getting proper custom Oreo in the near future seeing the development seems to have come to a full stop for the H8? Meaning in 1 or 2 months?

I've had LOS 15 on my cheapass Redmi 3 and i really like it so far but it makes me so sad at the same time :/ since the redmi 3 just isn't daily driver material.

Some insight would be greatly appreciated if there's any hope at all for a brighter software future. Even the Nougat roms aren't optimal at this point.

Additionally, what do you guys think the H8 would fetch right now? (9 months old, no scratches. remove dbrand on back or keep it on? It's 300€ on Amazon new here right now, so maybe around $320)

And yes i know it's off topic but there's nothing going on here anyway :(
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] KoumiCZ:
Please wait for the official statement!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] cichy1173:
Huawei confirmed this again. Honor 8 will not get update to Oreo. Source: https://www.tabletowo.pl/2017/10/26/honor-8-aktualizacja-android-8-oreo/ (in polish but screenshots are in english)
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Rylek:
well actually not honor but "us and a" suport agent, and they say one we will get it now they say wi will not get it.

I wait for offical statement from honor
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Giuskiller:
I also talked to Honor on Facebook and they told me to not trust any other source different from the official Honor channels. Also said that actually there are no official annuncements made by Honor so any information on the net can be considered as a fake news. Just wai for official news guys. IDK if we will get O or not, but speculating like this wont change anything.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] eliseo93:
So we can expect at least android 7.1.1 ?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
Anything but 7.1.1 or .2, because there's no version of EMUI on top of Android 7.1.

In others words it's either honor 8 gets Oreo or it will be stuck with 7.0.1.

All we need to do now is to wait for an announcement from honor
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] anshuraj132:
Honor 8 oreo update

Honor 8 will get updated in Q1 2018, this list shows the devices that will be updated to oreo by the end of 2017.

Don't worry buddy, honor 8 is capable enough to get atleast 2 major updates.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] KoumiCZ:
Where do you get this information? Please source!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
I tried to press Honor International a bit and they said that actually they're testing it and we just have to wait
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
Stop asking about it you won't get any info about it that's 100% sure
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] SALENTINVM:
They just say that they're happy to welcome Oreo and they're testing it, so stay tuned
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
And thats the reason they dont disclose this news of providing update. Coz once they commit and in case unfortunately they are unable to successfully test it on any of the SOC then it is difficult to convey users after committing this.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] beingnyukeit:
It's difficult for these Android brands to keep up with OS updates because of some pretty simple reasons.

1. Unlike Apple, they release multiple devices with different target markets in mind each year

2. As someone rightly pointed out, they sold enough Honor 8 devices and now want to sell Honor 9. What is my motivation to buy the Honor 9? Why shouldn't I just buy the 8 instead? All these market placement decisions hamper the timely decision making of other stuff, like OS updates.

As a business, they need to make a call on whether to keep loyalty of the Honor 8 users or see the bottomline of business. Providing OS updates has a cost associated to it and close to zero income.

On the other hand, companies like Motorola and Nokia (HMD) can promise these updates because they are almost 99% stock Android. There was a reason why Google had to come out with Nexus and Pixel devices. It's because they understood that Android fragmentation and custom ROMs (MIUI, EMUI, Oxygen etc) have become a mess.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] :
It's all about optimization of all hardware which takes time. Hence it might come later.

It's also as what u said. But again it takes time because they want to push everything to latest devices first. If honor 8 would get treble then it won't be much to worry about. I doubt they would still bring more major updates though. But we'll see
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Giuskiller:
Sadly, i have to agree with you. Pay attention, i'm still hoping they release the (last) Oreo major update...but i'm really pissed of. Like you said inferior devices are getting it instead Honor doesn't give a f*** about their one year device (best selling, though). I'm not a "fanatic" about updates, but it's a faith reason. If you say "Trust me i will push 2 years of updates" i understand that you're talking about of MAJOR updates, because security patches are usually relased monthly or every two months (also P8 still receives security updates) so i don't consider it. So if they made me buy this device ALSO because they promised something good and then won't do anything about it in the end i'll simply give my money to another brand. I love my H8, but a company wich makes fun of users by asking to trust them then forget about them is a company wich doesn't deserve my money and my faith. I repeat, i don't give a s*** about updates, my device runs pretty well on 7.0 but here the question is to be fair with users. I'd prefer to buy a Pixel, Sony or Lenovo device next time...well, in my heart still hoping that i'm wrong. Please Honor!
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] midhun_suresh:
Hey honor 8 deserve to be promoted,it's a combination of beauty,power and awesome camera.it's future
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] infernalhotdog7777:
Yeah we hve done enough helping huawei,honor products. Its a wakeup call for us to help other brand such like one plus, nokia ,lenovo which are affordable nd updated by time to time for average people.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] shashank1320:
Ofcourse it does...in fact all phone which are hardware capable should get the uodates. 6X, 8 both are equipped enough to handle anything you throw. 5C is moderate with 2GB RAM but 6X and 8 has got the better hardware and can handle Oreo easily.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Zerø.:
Has there been an official reply from honor? Do we know for a fact that we won't get it. If it is official that is just BS and I will never buy from honor again. I will just go with the pixel because I know I will get the newest updates instantly!:highfive:
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Broken promises never deserve to be promoted, no matter what. Credibility is damaged. Any average manufacturer can produce a decent phone but few can decently support it.

If you care about update, then yes, the Pixel (not great value for money IMO), OnePlus, Sony or One devices (Xiaomi and Moto, I think).
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] XAB235:
we will probably get Oreo on 1-2Q 2018
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Zerø.:
I do care about the newest updates but I also want the best performance possible from a phone. What would recommend. The Moto's are close to stock but they don't really have the advantage of performance as other phones do. I mean are honor 8 beats the iPhone 7 at app loading times but sucks at games.

---------- Post added at 02:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:23 AM ----------

Those customer support people have no clue it is evident at this point ?. Until we hear something directly from honor I say it's all up in the air sadly.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] midhun_suresh:
I think we Will get on December last or January
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Zerø.:
This website is trash my guy. It's not official.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Why not the discontinued OnePlus 5? Should be at a good price now and that SOC is a beast. Lots of performance, support and development.
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] Zerø.:
Isn't there a OnePlus5T or something now? Is that faster? Like is it worth the price jump?
[Honor 8 Questions & Answers] zinko_pt:
Yes, there is a 5T. But the SOC is the same as the 5. So I would definitely would consider the 5 if the price gap would justify it.