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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Eh . Interesting enough.. My S8+ and older phone show "Allow the device to be OEM unlocked" instead of the "bootloader is unlocked" like some of people screenshot.. maybe this could let us know which oem unlock button gonna stay and which one will be gone for some reason over time..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
No worries mate, I'm on Telstra post paid as well, so your in the same boat as me. It should appear on the 7th day as mine did. I did not even have to do a restart, it just appeared.

So now I am convinced that this time lock is 'part' of this puzzle. Not sure why some users have reported it to disappear. Mine is still active. The only thing really concerning me is one user reporting 'cannot flash non custom binary' after flashing a custom ROM. That's a worry so I'm keeping my eye out for any instances of that happening. Hoping other Telstra users can flash custom without any issues!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] simple23227:
So for those of you who had OEM unlock option appeared, did you root the phone successfully with custom recovery flashed? Any problem after doing so ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jpinoy:
So, today is the 7th day(couple hours past from initial turn on of device), and yes, my wife's phone magically has the OEM Unlock option in Dev Options. Also showing in ODIN Download, FRP/OEM LOCK are ON, without ticking OEM Unlock to on in Dev Option. And the other one, FRP/OEM LOCK is OFF after Enabling it in Dev Options.

Not doing any flashing of TWRP or rooting or ROMs, so can't give feedback if it will disappear or stick after doing any of those.

Got this off eBay(2 of them, returned mine and kept one for my wife). Seller is SobeOnline 1, good vendor and very responsive to emails.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Mattycee:
Did you just try and flash the XSA firmware? I tried to flash it myself and Wednesday AM was the last time I flashed anything, so hoping it shows me OEM unlock next week.

It is really strange that it does that, I just want to be able to turn on Wifi Calling on an Optus sim so do not even need to root it for any other reason. I wish they would allow Wifi calling on any phone and not a phone running "their own" firmware (Especially as it is proved the firmware is the same for XSA, Optus, Voda and Telstra)

If I put in a Telstra sim, wifi calling is already active, but the flag disappears as soon as I put the Optus sim card back in.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Guys . What if. When you flash something on odin. It triggers the oem unlock button timer thinggy to reset? You know that if you reboot after it's off u will get bootloop right. What if. After rooting. We didn't restart our phone for a week . To make sure it's there again. And after then it's done?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] :
While we're on the subject of restarts, what were to happen if you set the date manually, under Date and Time, to seven days forward and restart the device.

Or alternatively, 6 days and 23 hours and see what happens when that hour is up?

I actually happen to think this is a bug of sorts and not necessarily a deliberate attempt by Samsung.

Still waiting on my device to test.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Hmm. Could work. Tho if it detects date from online time. U can't fool it. How is it a bug when after a week it shows up[emoji23] . Ah maybe the one week isn't a bug. The bug is it disabling by itself eh?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
i have tried it, acctualy when u flash a firmware with odin the reset phone time is checked by default. if you have no sim and don't config wifi on setup screen and manually set time and date in settings, everything sticks. so i set a date in November but it didn't make oem unlock appear. rebooted a few times and it was a no go.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Will this method work?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
You should ask why some have the oem unlock disabled after rooting
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] :
I still no have oem unlock option,so im not sure after rooting the oem unlock will disabled or not.(maybe some device relock some not?)

The important point samsung are very unfair to the installment plan,so whose still no get the oem unlock maybe bcs of installment plan?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Maybe. Tho could you ask the same person. Why the oem unlock button disabled itself for some reason. On some person. Dont have mine yet so can't say
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] shouren04:
That doesn't make sense & how would they know if the phone is paid off? That sounds more like SIM unlock although some carriers don't require full payment to SIM unlock, at least half.

Most of those that are having these issues are buying the phone outright, no payment plan through a carrier cause it's an international phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Mattycee:
I would take this with a giant grain of salt as I know that there are people who are Post Paid with Telstra (The stingiest Telco in Australia) that have had OEM Unlock become available to them and these phones were on a 24 month contract as well, so if that was the case they would not get OEM unlock until after the contract is finished.

I think Live Chat sometimes makes things up to get you off the line.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xxxxcoopers:
Got mine today!

I did nothing but wait.

Will be cool to see what happens now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ZorbaJHK:
This thing is so annoying...:eek: The live chat is replying brainlessly and still no clue how to force the " OEM Unlock " option out... Sigh.

3 Days with the phone now :crying:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Mattycee:
Has anyone see this thread?:-

https://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39245

It may be an idea for someone who has just flashed a ROM (So as to not reset the 7 day waiting period for OEM unlock if that is legit) can try the instructions linked in that thread it may help others.

I am only a couple of days away from the 7 days so I didn't want to reset the counter in case it didn't work, but if someone has only just flashed today or doesn't worry about waiting the extra can try it, it may help us all.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] hatori:
After buy 7 days , the OEM unlock menu come to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MeltdownSpectre:
That thread is CSC related, what does that have to do with OEM Unlock?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Mattycee:
Yes I didn't think about that as I was looking at it in a selfish way, I only need OEM unlock to change the CSC and didn't think about the overall thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
Agreed, I'm in that boat. Telstra post paid lease, OEM appeared on mine earlier today.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jenellej:
6 days since I started using my Note8, still no oem unlock in developer tools :(
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] rocketmail.com:
Possibly one more day left.

Keep fingers crossed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
you can change csc without root. i changed from signapore to French Irish English Australian chiliean CSC, all without having oem unlock. that sammobile tread is weird. why would changing the csc trip knox or void warranty? usually one firmware hold mutiple sub csc for a region. wiping clean and inserting a new sim would change the csc by itself. this is what i have experienced while waiting for the oem unlock to appear. thus never acctualy appearing because each flash reset the counter. in the end thats what saved me from keeping the phone and being quite unhappy with the current state of affairs with the region free phones. people who are in contract with a carrier have no choice but others who have payed full price should not keep their device if the unlock is in a time triggered counter. each time a new firmware is released or if a situations arose that you need to recover with a full flash, you'll loose the unlock again for a while and I believe that depending if knox is tripped, you might never get it back.( this part is speculative)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pswin09:
My friend Note 8 already appear oem unlock option after 7 days. Fingers crossed. [emoji38] [emoji38]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
Mine also appeared after full 7 days not even one minute more than that, i flashed many firmwares and changed csc files to enable it but all failed. Time resets on odin flash so be careful with odin flashes. Only thing i will suggest is wait. I am on kogan network and bought it from Samsung Australia.

Edit: after reboot it went hidden again but after few seconds it appeared again. I am sure it has something with Samsung servers where mobile pings and get response to enable or keep it hidden
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] sansnil:
It's definitely a 7 day waiting period guys, although I have no idea what the thought is behind that. I bought a gold dual SIM Note8 out of Singapore (gray market) and flashed several different versions of the official ROM when I first got it trying to get the bootloader unlocked. I finally gave up but this morning exactly 7 days after I flashed the last ROM I see the OEM unlock option in settings. I also registered the phone out of Singapore a couple of days ago thinking it couldn't hurt but the 7 day timing for me and what everyone else has reported seems pretty conclusive to me.

Big thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. I'm now a super happy Note8 owner getting ready to root and hang in there everyone else who's still waiting - it will come to your device eventually!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MeltdownSpectre:
Singapore import. Well over 7 days and no option yet.

I'll clean flash the next ROM update that comes out and see if the option appears then.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] nader1450:
buy note 8 on 21 oct in malaysia, (pay cash)

samsung malaysia said: oem unlock apeare after 7 days

but not yet appear after 10 days

i'm sure this option control with Samsung servers and google (for control and maybe revoke warranty)

try and flash many firmware but same problem.

i like appear oem unlock

any idea?

Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] rocketmail.com:
Flashing firmware won't enable it, just reset and wait for 7 days as been reported several here.

Good luck.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ARNOB:
Update on XSP Note8:

Option dissappeared after reboot. Hasn't come back and odin mode says FRP and OEM lock off.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jpinoy:
I did the reboot, and it's still showing, and if you reboot in download mode and FRP/OEM Unlock is off, then OEM Unlock is enabled. Look a couple pages back at my post with pictures to show the difference with it on or of.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Mattycee:
I tried to reset the phone and then inserting my Sim card and it still defaults back to Telstra's firmware despite putting in an Optus Sim card. Did you do this with the Note 8 or another Samsung phone?

The Australian firmware has all the telco's branded firmware included and it won't let me change from Telstra (As that was where I got the phone from)

If it was the Note 8 you flashed, was it an Unbranded Australian firmware you flashed or was it branded?

I don't mind waiting another 7 days if flashing the firmware will allow me to use Wifi calling with my Optus Sim. (I don't really care if OEM unlock doesn't appear at all if I'm able to wifi call)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
i removed sim, reset phone via system menu under management section then waited till it erased. went to recovery and wiped data and cache. then downloaded a firmware off of updato.com , flashed it booted the phone till the setup android screen then turned it off, put sim and then booted it and it said; sim change detected reboot to apply and i was on an other csc. i do reckon that i was able to change the full region but sub region might need a different carrier sim than the 1 you have or it will probably defaut back to your original default csc. on a side note, i was never able to get back on default xsp/xsp/xsp. now im on xef/xef/xsp which is France. so be careful to stay on Australian firmwares. But in the end csc is useless regarding getting oem unlock to appear.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Superduper01:
Fpr and Oem lock off means you are good to go for root
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] rocketmail.com:
Yes, you can root if in download mode FRP and OEM lock is off.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Eagle 3:
I'm in Thailand and bought my phone from the Samsung store here. After 7 days OEM Unlock appeared. I flashed TWPR but messed it up and had to flash the OEM rom to recover. OEM Unlock is not there now. I guess I have to wait 7 more days.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] rocketmail.com:
Check if OEM LOCK is off in download mode.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Eagle 3:
Hmm, OEM LOCK is off. Surprised, since I flashed the OEM rom.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] rocketmail.com:
That's good.

Then you don't have any problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
its a known issue

doesn't sound good to me

1st post should include everyone's findings for people that have received oem unlock or are waiting for it:

-oem unlock can take at least 7 full days to appear

-csc has no effect on making oem unlock appear

-flashing a firmware resets the trigger count for oem unlock

-oem unlock can vanish at any time

-flashing twrp can cause soft bricks because system can make the oem unlock vanish and after reboot = no joy

-if you DON'T have a UK or a Korean phone, the above probably applies to you(people with Snapdragon chips, what are you doing here?)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] asmen5:
I got Indonesian N950F/DS no oem unlock [emoji26] [emoji25]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] fragtion:
I am back on stock firmware, my CSC is XSG. But yes, returning to stock CSC had no effect in bringing OEM Unlock back. In its current state, the phone's bootloader is essentially locked. One has to wonder if Samsung are aware of this issue, and/or how much they'd care?? For me having just paid a small fortune for the device under the assumption that it was unlocked, I do find this to be quite concerning.. almost feels like we're being hoaxed?? Like, If OEM lock reports as OFF in Download mode, shouldn't that mean that I'm free to flash custom recovery? And the manner in which the visibility of this option in Developer mode is being randomly toggled (appearing/disappearing without explanation) for many users , and that this phenomenon seemingly has no basis/explanation (like, it's just pure luck?) - seems quite absurd at this point? As for waiting 7 days - again, why? Why should there even be a timer on this flag? Like what's the deal here
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
It was an unbranded signapore xsp note 8.

getting the csc to change can be a bit tricky. ive seen that flashing an older firmware seems to make a difference. in the beginning i was resetting and flashing newer or equivalent version of firmware than what i had by default and nothing was changing. then i decided to flash older firmwares using the steps i provided earlier. it's not an exact science. wifi calling appeared for me on the English or Irish base region firmware if i remember correctly. one reason why oem unlock and magisk root method would be good for you because you can manually edit your system files and change it. Or i think "phone info plus" app can change it to one of the other preloaded sub CSCs your firmware currently has. also from my experience thers only 1 firmware per region, it includes all carriers. even tho sites have them split by carrier, if you download them ull see its the same files. download 2 of them from different carriers and compare size/md5 checksum and you'll see if the build version is the same that the files are acctualy the same exact firmware.

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all we have are questions as a result of expecting the same behaviour as previous exynos devices.

again, the bootloader is one thing but the software scheme that toggles the oem unlock is an other. people who have tripped knox are going to have to wait for a true fix. the rest should get an other phone ( notably the korean or uk devices)

if they want to use the phone hassel free with twrp.

It is a sad state of affairs.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] j3yps:
I'm seriously hoping that this is just some sort of display bug and not time-triggered.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
I also got the OEM unlock after one week, this is what happened when trying to install TWRP and Magisk on Stock ROM.

I tried to flash TWRP lost night and that was okay. I decided to hold onto stock and just have TWRP and Magisk at this stage until other roms are a little less buggy. Flashed TWRP. flashed Verity / Magisk, setup phone again and then decided to do a backup in TWRP. When trying to go into TWRP got the message 'Only offical released binaries are allowed to be flashed' and then went into a soft brick. Had to restore phone to stock and now OEM unlock has disappeared again, In download mode FRP and OEM lock are both OFF. Tried to reflash TWRP and get the same message - 'Only offical released binaries are allowed to be flashed'.

So the plot thickens.

Any other Telstra users have the same issue?

SM-N950F

TEL/TEL/TEL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jpinoy:
That's good to know for folks flashing and seeing FRD/OEM Unlock still showing as off in download mode, but OEM Unlock not showing in development options after flashing TWRP. .

I'm glad I returned mine and waiting for one from Clove UK to get here on Monday, per tracking. Hope I just didn't jinx myself on my phone from Clove... [emoji52] ... [emoji28]

I wouldn't want to deal with this kind of mess right now knowing how much I paid for the international version, for the reason I bought it for, just to deal with this headache. [emoji36]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] thegreenthief:
Not Telstra, but I'm in the exact same spot as you. Did everything you described, FRP and OEM Lock are both off and yet I cannot flash TWRP again.

Ugh.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
Thanks for letting us know, the more users we can find in the same boat the sooner we may be able to figure out why this is happening.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Guys. Try this. Please. This might work. I'll try it myself if I have the note 8 in my hand. But since I don't have mine yet. I can't do anything but to give suggestions
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Andysmith71:
Will have to wait another week now of course to see if I can reflash TWRP - interesting suggestion however, will try if possible and report.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xxx42069:
You'll be happy to know I've had absolutely zero problems with my clove UK note 8. I would suggest you do as I have done and just keep it simple for now. Flash recovery, flash magisk, flash csc if you want, profit. Let some time go by while some bugs get squashed in these new roms and kernels. For me this was simple as all I ever really wanted was root and carrier extras like volte and wifi calling. For my needs, the phone is nearly perfect out of the box. Just needed root and a handful of root apps to make it perfect. Good luck!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Ya. You don't have the problem like others. Cuz you have the clove version. Peeps that have the oem unlock button from day 1 . Will 99.99999% not have any problems
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xxx42069:
Agreed. That has been my experience so far. Absolutely zero problems. Oem is on and stays on through reboots, root apps work perfectly, safety net passes, carrier extras working perfectly, magisk modules install and work perfectly, etc etc. So glad I returned my Singapore model and got a UK one. F**king love this phone. I wish you all the best of luck. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Yep. Tho tbh. I can't find a reason of why Samsung didnt do this on some models.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] rocketmail.com:
If some are having problems with OEM LOCK, whilst others don't have that problem,

am thinking the issue is carrier related request and possibly some went out to grey market.

I can't understand why Samsung would lock some notes 8 and free others.

Well , that's my thoughts,
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] white7561:
Well like some people that have bought note 8 here. Don't have the oem unlock too. And I guess we need to wait about a week too. Well if it's the same that means we will have the same problem later on with the button randomly missing. That's why I've been asking people that have that problem to try my possible workaround.. go root nor custom ROM. After reboot. Just go set a timer for around 8 days. (to be sure) . And then go disable and re enable the oem unlocking button. And try rebooting. If it passes just fine. There . We found a workaround to use our phone on root without any problems. Tho we still dunno what triggers the reset of timers. Either it's the present of new /data (like after wiping /data) . Or it gets triggered when u flash something on odin.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Brava27:
Clove, you the real MVP
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Geekser:
My original Note 8 was purchased on EBAY - SIngapore Device with OEM Unlock missing. I didn't want to have to worry about it and had no patience to wait so I purchased a Note from CLOVE in the UK and 4 days later I had my new Note Rooted and a custom rom flashed. There are several AWESOME custom ROMS out there if you search for them - Minotaurus - Reliance - both simply awesome - and being so early you can bet they will both get better. (Minotaurus is not in XDA - do a GOOGLE Search and join their own forum - it's worth it.)

anyway - my point is - I don't think anyone who got the NOTE from CLOVE has had an issue with OEM missing or disappearing - and honestly, I know where i am going to be getting my Next Samsung phone from!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] fragtion:
What is the model code for this Clove version? It's not also SM-950F, right? Gosh this whole episode is such bs. Not what I expected from an F-variant/international model. What have Samsung done? This will be the last time I purchase a Samsung handset if this fiasco is not quickly remedied one way or another.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bober10113:
Ill repost my recap as im seeing the same questions over and over and people are getting soft bricks for nothing and are still wondering why.

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my theory is region locked phones for some reason dont have the time trigger.

clove's are region locked. thats the only difference i can see.( they obviously unlock them before they ship it.)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] liquidguru:
I don't think it's carrier related. I got my N8 directly from Samsung in Indonesia. No OEM unlock option yet. A few more days until I find out if it will appear. I still won't root yet if it does appears, as many people seem to be having problems. I hope Samsung will eventually sort it out