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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] usmaak:
I was in the Verizon store yesterday and looked at the three that they had on display. I did look for this and didn't see it on any of them. Now it's a brightly lit store and I didn't have a lot of time to really examine the phones, but I did crank the brightness and put up a white screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
People will moan about the heat and sand in the Sahara, that is not the point the point is MAKING a problem that is not there. Until the OP mentioned this half those who now claim to have this situation didn't know they had it? :silly:

Of course we have the right to return a genuinely faulty device regardless of cost, what does the cost have to do with it? It is peoples reaction in threads like this that cause hysteria and panic and get owners returning their mobiles for nothing due to worry and and anxiety caused by reading this forum.

Sure lemons will crop up and when that happens they must be returned. The situation described here in NOT "light bleed" but some screens can give of a tiny amount of refractive light at the sides. This is nothing to do with a badly fitted screen and zero to do with water resistance. I dare say if we all examine any of the edge devices we can find on occasions this phenomena.

Lets keep our feet planted on the floor folks and not start a scandal from no where.

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] imatts:
Would have agreed with you mate, but my 2 Note 7's had this issue, and because of the fact that I paid $1500 for the phone, I want to make damn sure that this LIGHT BLEED (because light is still bleeding one way or another, sorry), will be fixed.

I think you need to open your eyes and realize that this is definitely a serious issue. A wrongly gapped glass panel can weaken the resistance of that IP68 certification, and be the one thing that causes your phone to die out.

If the manufacturing warranty covered water damage, I'd probably be fine over this, but it isn't, so if this QC issue does in fact result in a water damaged and broken phone, then Samsung can turn around and say NOPE, NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY, YOU CANT PROVE THE SCREEN WAS THE REASON BYE.

SO ya, I will continue to worry about the quality control and water resistant abilities on a phone I paid $1500 if that means possibly losing out on that money........ Get real.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Lets just agree to disagree :highfive:

Ryland :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] iteam:
The question of the day is WILL THIS LET WATER OR MOISTURE IN!!!! I just looked at mine and have some minor "bezel bleed" and I am concerned about this not being water tight!!! I never checked my S8 which I still have at home and was gonna trade it in, now I gotta check that unit and if it's good I am in the DO I OR DON'T I return the NOTE 8!!!!!! I do NOT want to play Russian phone roulette as every one I get I will have some issue with now. I don't like at the top and bottom where the screen bezel meets the glue or sealant does not look smooth, not like my S8... UGH WTFF!!!!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] marctronixx:
You are wishing the grace/remorse period...

If the device is not to your liking, return/exchange it!

Unless one is willing to test their phone to prove if this will allow water/dirt to enter the device, simply return it. You are under no obligation to use a device you feel is faulty or does not meet up to your standards.

You cats can argue and "one up" each other all day about this but the problem will still be there.

Return the phone. Test it. Do something. Just don't argue endlessly.. :good::highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] iteam:
Correct its not light bleed it is BEZEL BLEED!!!! Meaning the panel does not contact the edge to edge bezel edges.... Are they water tight is the question for me...... I'm not about to test it out myself. So the sad reality is when the phone gets dropped in water or put in water poof dead note 8?!?!?!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] usmaak:
If the glass was not correctly affixed to the body of the phone, then I would definitely return the phone as defective as this would affect the water/dust proofing. It just seems like I'm hearing two different things.

1. This is the result of the glass not being properly attached to the body.

2. The glass is attached correctly, but something inside the glass is not flush.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] borijess:
I have not received my phone yet. But I did sign up for Samsung premium care. How would this work? Will they ship a new phone or bring me a new one?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Are you seriously going to take to heart what is written in this thread!?

Read any forum regarding any and every article produced and you will read about the alleged negatives. If you took such comments to heart you would never leave the house nor purchase a pair of bloody shoes. For goodness sake you are already planning to send your Note 8 back BEFORE you have even received it? Absurd behaviour. :(

Please remember there is a tiny % of Samsung haters here, same as all brands get trolls bleeding into the threads.

I have seen this light situation on all S-line and Note models with that edge screen. Starting with the S6 edge and going through two Note 7's and the S7 edge! Its nothing to do with faulty build and your mobile is water resistant.

Try buying an IPS screen device with literally zero genuine light bleed. It comes with the technology of IPS screens. The Note has a totally different type of screen, Super-AMOLED and the edge design leads to some situations where light appears to emit from the sides, it is NOT a screen fault nor a faulty fitting between screen and body.

Stupid bloomin thread will whip up another furore over nothing. But hey, if you want to panic feel free.

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] iteam:
Hey Ryland, I just got home and examined my trusty S8 and S7 Edge... Matter of the fact I owned the S7 edge for the longest phone ever and my s8 since launch and gotten waterproofed performance and no other issues... They too have a line of light only seen in pitch darkness and is just an internal reflection that the curved edges apparantly give the effect of what I call bezel bleed.. I have been using all my phones and no negative damage has occurred to this phenomenon LoL.. my note 8 has the least amount of this EFFECT which is what it is.. I would have NEVER looked for this untill I saw this thread.. I call BS an I am OCD a type and was freaking out at work this morning about this lmao, however it exists in all of theses type of designs from Samsung... I am over it! Who uses their phone in a pitch dark cave with the brightness on full blown? No ****ing one LMAO. Everyone stop freaking out unless there is a pure separation on your bezels.. look at the s6 and on and you will see you were in the dark no pun intended until the OP posted this bonfire burning in everyone's mind:highfive:

Thank you Ryland for making me calm down and research with concrete proof it is the way it is!!!! :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
You are very welcome. I am pleased you have taken the initiative to expos this silly thread for what it is. I thank you.

Ryland:good:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] HeRe4oNeReAsoN:
Ok. So here's what I have found out. I went to 3 different verizon corporate stores today. Checked out the in store models. Each store had 1 black and 1 orchid. NONE of the orchid had this problem(I'll explain my usage of "problem" later). 2 out of the 3 black ones had this problem. So, 2 out of 6 displays has this problem. I then went to best buy, to see about the problem and what I can do. I spoke with the "samsung expert". Whom, I may add, has the same problem and contacted samsung, and she said samsung will honor a manufacturer warranty, per her words! I would've traded my phone in right then, but because the phone isn't officially released, they cannot do exchanges until the morning of the 15th. I say this is a problem because it isn't on EVERY device. So it's an apparent PROBLEM! What the long term effects are, yet to be seen, perhaps nothing... Perhaps something. I just know, if I go buy a high-end product, I expect high-end quality. If my product differs from the "way it should be", I don't want that particular product. Furthermore, I am a Samsung fanatic! I have had a Samsung phone since the s2, and nearly every model. 5 TV's in my house... All samsung. Washer and dryer, you guessed it, samsung! I will continue to buy samsung products regardless if this particular product has defects. However, if my TV was missing adhesive, or whatever the problem is (who cares). I wouldn't try to justify the defect with, "I'm being OCD, it still works, who is ever going to look there?" The fact is, this IS A PROBLEM. You do what you want. I expect a non-manufacturer defect electronic from the world's largest, and my favorite, electronics manufacturer!

BTW, maybe I'm the only one, but I watch movies with the screen blasted while it's "dark as a cave". Lol!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] black96ss:
Samsung Quality control for you right there...I didn't receive mine yet but I wish I didn't open this thread lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] iteam:
Wow that's great, you finally found out you did NO physical research of All the Galaxy edge style series and that you actually live in a cave, as a troll watching movies looking through the side of your phone to see this "bezel bleed" LMFAO. I get how you feel, but get with it, it's the reality of the optics of the screen by wrap design, reflective prisim, been in geometrical optics for over 26 years man:cooppp I'm not being rude, I am stating pure fact and proven it to myself which is very hard to do, that's all that matters to me......

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me either but I am glad I have done the physical research to prove to my OCD self there is nothing to freak out about since it's been happening since the S6 period... Only. Note 7 users started really adding to flaming no pun intended..... Either use a note 8 or don't or any sedge design for that matter...

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this thread freaked me out at work earlier today, but now I know first hand it's normal unless you happen to have open unsealed gaping cracks along the bezel LoL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] HeRe4oNeReAsoN:
[MENTION=1095939]iteam[/MENTION] That's cool! U do u, I'm gonna do me. If your happy with yours... Nice! But, I'm not. This was a thread to discuss this issue with other note 8 owners! But I guess for every action, there is an equal and Opposite reaction. That's the fun part of life! Have a good day, I'll just exchange this beast of a phone and crawl back in my cave and watch movies on an amazing "no-bezel-bleed" screen!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] iteam:
Thanks for making me laugh out loud
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] imatts:
I agree. People seem to think this is a small problem and that its not a big deal. Right. This isn't a big deal:

If you don't mind spending $1,500 on a phone that very clearly has a defect that could affect the water resistance, something that WOULDNT be covered in a warranty if it became water damaged... Again, this is a $1,500 phone........ Well, then..

You're a complete idiot.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] oscarm1985:
This is crazy I was the 1st one who posted this on android central. Its a samsuung defect and believe me I would not keep a phone like this. I've already contacted Sprint and they are sending me a brand new one. They had no problem sending me a new one since it's not anything but a defective device.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] iteam:
Thanks imatts, lol.

#1 If u paid 1500 your a complete idiot.,

#2 it doesn't affect WR unless it's a gaping wide open slice in the side.

#3 it pure geometrical optics as light follows and bends at angles which ALL THE Edge series has so take a good look at all the physical history and theory of geometrical optics before you start calling people complete idoits LoL.

If you read my posts I stood in your position and stuck by it as well until I got home and looked at 4 long term trusty S7 edge s8 and my note 8 and all had/have the same exact reflection that can only be seen with the brightness maxxed and a consistent white colored screen for uniformaty and only in the complete dark at the right angle all consistent reflections of light bending at the respected angles of the glass angles and curvature period.... So how may phones will you guys return before you realize it's the way it is.. if some are worse than others so be it but that's the real deal...

PEACE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] imatts:
Its $1,500 in Canada?....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] HeRe4oNeReAsoN:
I totally get what ur saying with light refraction and such, but my thing is, why aren't ALL the devices this way? If it were as you say, there would be no difference between my device and the next person's, or the 4 I looked at today that didn't have it. I have seen it with my own eyes, and held them in my hand, there are definitely other note 8's that don't display this issue. IDK why some do and some don't. But those are the facts! Id love to learn the real reason behind this, but it would probably take a teardown of the defective device to do so. I'd pay $20 for someone to tear theirs apart and confirm either of our theories! I personally think it is a defect. I'm not sure if it would ever affect anything, but why chance it? If you bought a brand new car and the brakes squeaked everytime you pressed them, but you don't notice any loss of usage, would you look the other way or have it looked at by a professional? I think, until you know what is causing the defect, you should consider it a problem. That's how I take this whole situation. A problem, that I hope a professional will tell me why mine is different.

And, fwiw, my s7 edge DID have it, only took it out of the case one time! So I never noticed. My wife's had NONE. My sister in law and her husband have s8+ they bought last month or so, absolutely fine. A friend of mine got his s8+ on drop day, bleeding like a stuck pig. I checked an s8+ at Verizon today, nothing. I'll pull my s6 edge out tomorrow and check it, just to satisfy my curiosity, I have NEVER taken it out of the case, so who knows. And you can actually see all the refraction in good lighting too. And on mine I see it while looking at the phone normal, no angles. Or maybe that just my troll eyes activating:p
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] oscarm1985:
I'm tired of the b.s. Samsung clearly manufactured these note 8 devices in a hurry and now I have to return my note 8 and many others will start to do so. As much as I love this phone here is proof they messed up

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https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...roblem-light-leakage-edges-2.html#post5969778

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Drops ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] HeRe4oNeReAsoN:
Ooooooooo!! Laughing out loud! Crow for breakfast tomorrow?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] TroubleShootMe:
Agreed.

Frankly i think because the note 8 has been sent out before release date to some, eveyone who actually has one atm is going post crazy. These kind of silly threads are flooding here.:silly:

Also maybe OP change thread title? It is not Light Bleed
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] oscarm1985:
Y'all don't get it it's not just the light coming put from the edges the screen and back glass aren't flush with the middle metal chassis.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] iteam:
NOT on all my edge series phones ALL have a consistant line of reflection due to the curve going into a flat edge where it meets the body... Must have a full white screen at full brightness in the dark to see the effect... no gaps present on all my 6 edge devices and have a thin consistant white line and all are waterproof. I did rinse my note 8 off yesterday fyi....... like in the OP's pictures you can only see the light on the light reflections where there is white text or graphics near the edge making it look inconsistent! It MUST be a FULL white screen to see the Uniformity of the reflection line....

Don't know what else to say. I'm done arguing, educating and explaining.. good luck to everyone!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] elmaquinadeamor:
My guess is this:

Since the display does not really go all the way to the metal edge, as you can see the black top and bottom bezels as well as very thin black outlines on the sides. These dark boundaries are just coated (or stickers?) onto the glass and are supposed to be covering/masking up to the very edges of the glass. The "bleeding" may have just been caused by that coating/sticker not fully masking the edges of the glass thus allowing the refracted light to be seen on the sides.

So it might not be a case of a gap between the glass and the metal but rather the extent to which the black outlines cover the glass.

By the way, I had the same issue with my note 7 but i never had a problem with the waterproofing back then. I've actually used it for some underwater photos in the pool and no problems whatsoever.

Just a possibility you might want to consider.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] iteam:
Thank you for input which follows mine findings:highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] elmaquinadeamor:
You're welcome man.

Anything to help clarify these issues.

Last thing we need is another scandal for the note series that may deprive us of another great device.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] usmaak:
That's exactly what I was thinking after looking at it in the Verizon store, and this makes perfect sense. They know how light works and that by nature of how the screen is designed, the light is going to attempt to leak out of the edges. It makes sense that they'd "fix" this by covering up the area from which the light would leak.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
NOT in my case. I have to wait until Friday to receive it. I write from experience of owning past edge models and from posts here also speaking directly with Samsung either in person or with their representatives.

I agree this is getting to a silly stage and this is not the only thread BUT its always like this on every device on XDA, its the 'price' we pay for membership and freedom of speech. All we can do is our best and try to do it respectfully.

BTW changing the title, after time passes, becomes an even bigger issue as new readers will wonder what relevance replies have to the original post so best leave it as it is?

Ryland :highfive:

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There is no arguing your logic and I, two years ago, had this very debate with the Samsung rep' for this country.

The explanation he gave to me made me feel a right muppet.

The devices, since the S6 with the edge screen, have been made with a metal chassis with front and rear glass panels. Metal is heat sensitive meaning metal is prone to expansion and contraction according to temperature variations.

IF the glass was directly fixed with, say some form of glue, directly to the frame and there was zero room for said expansion and contraction the glass would shatter.

To avoid this, between the glass panels and the metal body an adhesive membrane is used that allows the frame to expand and contract without breaking the glass. This is why there is an optic loss of light at the point of contact. That membrane also acts as part of the devices small dust and water resistance.

I presently own, while waiting for my Note 8, a SGS8+. Its in a Samsung alcantara case and I am so un bothered by this thread that I am not going to even remove my S8+ from the case to look.

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] lennie:
What happens if you scroll? Does what seem like "light bleed" move along with your scrolling?

If it moves It might not be light bleeding out but more of a reflection based on the curve of the screen facing down to the frame of the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] iteam:
It MOVES with the text and graphic colors changing the uniformity of the reflection. ALL WHITE is a uniform line all around....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Kawaisa:
I'm positive it's refraction of light due to the curved screen. If I scroll up and down, the white/dark colors when viewing photos on a web page move along on the side. If light was actually leaking then the light would not move along. Its only visible top down, not from the side. You'd be able to see it from the side if it was actually leaking light. It's noticable on the right side of my phone, more conveniently the screen is more recessed on that side.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] imatts:
Hey just so you are aware, yes, we know this isn't true "light bleed". Its just the most convenient term everyone is using.

A more accurate term that most of us aware of the issue is bezel bleed.

Like you said, and many others mentioned over and over, its the glass popping out more than normal, exposing the edge of the glass, allowing the light on the panel to escape.

This is a QC issue and has been admitted by Samsung as a defect.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Kawaisa:
For me it's not the glass that is exposed, it's actually more recessed into the metal bezel and I see the light by looking directly at my phone.

The screen at top and bezel below the little line of light
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] abdul.sattar02:
REmove the Protector from screen

remove the protector from the screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Can you reference the Alleged Samsung article you mention please. Many thanks. :good:

Ryland :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] notefreak:
I am not even going to look at it. What is important to me is that the screen is percect. I am not going to go look for a flaw that I couldn't see on my own and drive myself nuts about it. Two Note7 recalls were enough, I will not put myself through multiple exchange processes. I love this phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Received my Note 8 Friday. Put it straight into a case and have been in Note 8 bliss since. I had forgotten how much I miss that S-pen or should I call it mouse? I totally understand why a person who has the SGS8+ would think twice about changing but those of us who use that pen its just the only mobile on the market that can hit that sweet spot and man is it sweet. It is all the fantastic Note 7 was but so much more. Congratulations Samsung.

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] suzook:
Wrong thread?? What does this have to do with light bleed?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Gary02468:
One of the first things I do with a new IP68-rated phone is to submerge it in a pot of water for several minutes while video-documenting the whole process. That way if there's any major leak--whether or not it's associated with light/bezel-bleed--I can prove that the resulting water damage was due to a device defect and exchange the phone. (So far, though, all of my IP68 devices have properly survived the test.)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
I suggest you read the thread from post one. IF, after that, I need to explain further, there is clearly no point in my doing so.

Ryland