yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
As long as it's in my build script and I have access to build2 lol. If I had to compile and upload from my own pc i would just build every 2 months, I hate uploading builds for half a day lol.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] sapo_joe:
I'm not really counting on having official Oreo on Titan, just a fully working camera would do it for me. Otherwise I'll stay on Nougat until my phone hardware fails and I move to a new phone.

Remember, our phone support from Motorola ended on Marshmallow, so anything newer than that is a bonus!

For instance, I have an old Galaxy Grand Quattro that is surviving on Cyanogen 11 (4.4 KitKat) for years (officially it was on JellyBean!), I don't care if it's not the latest android version, I just need the phone fully functional.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Hallo32:
Just to make it clear, the update url https://l.kremowka.xyz/api/v1/titan/unofficial/718925911c seems not to work any more.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Danilo-Sanchez:
I couldn't agree more.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] sapo_joe:
And it's great to have you on board updating older CM/LineageOs versions for us Danilo! Many thanks!
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Cleidsonl:
Why everytime I slide to any direction the status bar is expanding like I was pulling it down?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] vickydodger:
Is ter any chance v ll c android go version of this ROM in future update ?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Lightning~Bolt:
So, the titan is not going to get the official lineage 15.1....right?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] zbl4ck0z:
Really the work is end for Titan? :confused: :(:(
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
Read this: https://github.com/LineageOS/charter/blob/master/device-support-requirements.md and ask yourself a question:: "does titan meet all the requirements on this page?"
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Danilo-Sanchez:
I don't mind if it's official or not.

The question is: Are you going to improve something more related to Titan?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
I haven't been """improving""" it since 2016 or maybe even 2015.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] love4chat:
hope to get official lineage 15.1 for titan
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Danilo-Sanchez:
I mean make something work better (or make something start to work) on Oreo.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
Maybe when someone fixes HAL1 recording I will come back and write selinux rules for 15.1 but that's probably about it.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Luan Eduardo:
Development on Titan can not stop, I hope there will be fix for these issues and the release of official builds of LOS 15.1
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
It can stop whenever I feel like.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] CMKdaGreatest:
Isn't that a little.......with all due respect......unenthusiastic?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
Eh, it's been 4 years since I started working on it. I kinda stopped caring that much now.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Mestreian:
I understand, working on a device that has nothing else to offer but headache does not encourage anyone.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] CMKdaGreatest:
Yea that's true.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Hallo32:
Seems to be time to move on.

Any experience with this rom? https://xdaforums.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-pixel-experience-t3734871
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
All these ROMs depend on my code so yeah, they won't be any better.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Kurt Krummbein:
See here what LUK and Luca are currently working on LineageOS for Honor View 10 and other project treble devices (much more stunning stuff), so go on guys!!!

As long as LUK is giving regulare updated images (updated with the LineageOS git trees), nobody will pick up for enhancements and bugfixes ;).

Cheers

Kurt
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Typical Adroid User:
Tbh luk can take however long he wants if he doesn't feel motivated to do something why bother him? These phones are old relax.... I'm honestly thinking about buying an s7 edge after this phone dies out
[G 2014 Original Android Development] rahulsj92:
I just want to thank Luk for exemplary work on Titan. We should all appreciate his dedication and shouldn't berate him for dumping Titan. I hope that you'll notify us by closing the thread when you want to stop. I'll miss using Titan. I guess I have to think about finally upgrading
[G 2014 Original Android Development] sapo_joe:
So true!

But the lack of LineageOs 15 will not be a reason for me to buy a new phone. LineageOs 14 will probably keep being updated for a long time, as will Aokp (I talked to their devs on the G+). So, no worries really. As I said before, I'd rather have a fully working Nougat than a meh Oreo on my device!
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Hallo32:
The base and the bugs may be same but the important part are the security updates in the future.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] sapo_joe:
Actually it's the other way around. First we need the ROM fully functional and bug free, otherwise security patches don't matter. With the camera as it is on Oreo, I'd rather have Nougat supported longer.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Lightning~Bolt:
I bought this phone after I saw luk developing for it??......but its too old now......even I'm thinking of moving on.......#titanlove
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Malethra:
I think there may be hope, everybody! I just saw the new post on the LineageOS official website and I think that our jurassic titan could be receiving an official Lineage OS 15.1 build at some time.

It's in "Upgrading to 15.1" and I'm quoting it here just to make it easier, but I recommend reading the whole post.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] ProGamer02224:
Hey Luk you have been doing a great work, giving great updates for the phone which even the manufacturers don't care updating..., Titan is a great phone and its been more better because of your support and ROMs you developed. We thank you so much for that.

And guys I found some thing called Ground zero ROMs and I think they are still developing 8.1 for our titan, unfortunately its not there in XDA, but you can google it to find more details.

And again many many thanks to LuK for everything.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Arkanic:
The rom is pretty stable there are only a few bugs left to fix, you can use l speed and swapper and it will be even faster. Thank you for this rom
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Arcline:
Well lineage said they're working on the camera Hal, so there's still a chance we might aswell see official builds.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Hallo32:
I'm taking videos with Cameringo Lite and it working well for me on Oreo.

What are the other bugs on orea?

Also nougat didn't work for me without bugs. Not detecting the second sim card and not switching between wlan and mobile traffic just to mention the both, which I really loved :highfive: in the past time.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Oshmar:
For those coming from another ROM and trying to install the last build directly (02/25), it starts to fail continuously in the setup wizard, so it is impossible to start the initial configuration. Solve this by installing the previous build (02/17) and then installing over (02/25).
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Lightning~Bolt:
Luk has made a lot of titan specific changes for lineage 15.1......why is it that I can't see any of these changes in the lineage os gerrit??
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Dugatoembridge:
Or you can just delete "setupwizard" folder in: priv-app, after installing rom! Lineage's setup will replace that of Google.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Danilo-Sanchez:
https://github.com/motog2014devteam/
[G 2014 Original Android Development] meganukebmp:
To note, those are not up to date. You need a whole bunch of other changes to even get it to compile and get signal. It will probably get updated when Camera1 HALs get fixed and LuK does the Selinux policies (if he decides to)
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
My device and vendor trees are always up to date, I just don't work on this device that often.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Oshmar:
And how do you suggest you make it impossible to start the rom? any help is welcome, since on 02/27 I just realized that it is also giving continuous failures.

Well, installing one over the other was what solved. I'll leave the build 02/17 on Sdcard for any eventuality.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Dugatoembridge:
Deleting "Google Setup Wizard", rom will start normally and use "Lineage setup wizard" on first boot!

That simple.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] meganukebmp:
Last I compiled I needed this for deprecated cmactions and this for the new qcom oem values. Maybe you have some global environment fixes that somehow correct this.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
I don't build cmactions so I just have env set for it and the latter one isn't required cause confiigfs parser change got merged.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] meganukebmp:
Ah, thanks for clarifying. Should probably change my env accordingly.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] PsyClip-R:
It looks like video recording on old devices is being fixed.

Hope this will work for titan as well.

https://review.lineageos.org/#/c/207417/

Now, if it works, the only obstacle should be SE policy Permissive
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
Uh, that's not it.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] meganukebmp:
You're looking for Camera HAL1. Afaik that would likely appear on some random device tree as a driver shim.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] limaunion:
Hi! my device has storage issues, no matter how's the SD card formatted (internal/external storage). WhatsApp and its multimedia content seems to be the main culprit. I read yesterday there's a slimmed-down Android version that takes up less space called 'Go', is this an option for my Moto G2 Titan? is it already available for download? I'd like to test that before replacing my smartphone with a new one.

Thanks for any feedback.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] thedeadfish59:
Luk wont build GO version for titan anymore, there were some test builds lot ago, but he wont build GO anymore

https://github.com/motog2014devteam...mmit/f31b6af0a2d7c286bf8a7f48a4f13700ed6580ca
[G 2014 Original Android Development] rodrig0128:
The ROM Pixel Experience has a version of Android Go 8.1 for Titan, just look there in the post and you will find it.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] ondoin:
I vote for Android Go too.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] sapo_joe:
The performance gains are inexistent and the Go version is ugly as hell...
[G 2014 Original Android Development] ondoin:
What? Have you tried both versions? I mean same ROM in same phone? Personally I don't care about visuals. My Moto G 2 is so slow and I can't install anything because there's no space. I have to clean cache just to update core apps.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] moto1022:
Since we're talking about Android Go. Just yesterday I flashed LOS 15.1, official Gapps and Android Go enabler. Performance is balanced. I also installed Android Go apps, like the Google Assistant.

Also, Android Go is not ugly just that the recent screens had a redesign that's all.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Malethra:
In my opinion, It's not just this redesign that makes Android Go ugly, it's the lack of animations too. I tried to use no animations a lot of times in the past and couldn't get used with it because of its ugliness :/.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] sapo_joe:
Mine is the 16gb version, no space problems. And yes, I tried both, and I'd never use android Go. I'd rather stay on Nougat.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] thedeadfish59:
Mine is 8gb version, but using adaptive storage with this card , still not slow at all, using AOKP with substratum, i mean am satisfied how my titan reacts with 1gb ram, I dont really need GO version! (I have installed 89apps for info, still ok with it, using greenify, OC kernel)

If Oreo become stable, that will be just bonus to me, because nougat is rock stable (LOS 14.1/Based ROMS)
[G 2014 Original Android Development] sapo_joe:
Aokp and lineageos 14 run great even without greenify.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] thedeadfish59:
thats true, the only reason we can be dissatisfied with this device if we start to compare this device with Ram-2gb/Rom-64gb devices, otherwise i dont see any real reasons, personal opinion
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
>2GB RAM

It's 2018 dude, mid end phones ship with at least 4GB. My current phone has 6GB lol.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] thedeadfish59:
Still on LuK's TWRP, this is pretty fine, its just recovery, it will allow you to flash Nougat ROMS as well! This recovery is just modded with some small tweaks to make it possible to flash LOS 15, thats it.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] yashgumaste:
Anyone tried using substratum? Also even after flashing SuperSU app didn't appear in drawer.

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How did you made it work
[G 2014 Original Android Development] ventech_17:
Dude... Standby time in this is simply awesome... Bcoz this is just my development phone I tried leaving it without using it and after about 2 days and 8 hours of standby time I still have 33% left which is simply amazing (on my phone)... Maybe after all the tweaks and fixes I guess it will be way more awesome.. didn't check the screen on time yet... Great job dude.

Only thing I'm feeling a little bit uncomfortable about is the vibrations when we are typing .. mostly it's normal but suddenly it becomes high when we type something... I don't know whether its the problem with my phone (because it's old) or the software.. please help me out on that...

And one more doubt... Will the updates which come will be OTA updates or we have to do it manually?

Thanks ?

P.S I wanted to upload screenshots of it but it didn't work out and it kept saying "network error couldn't upload screenshots". I am using the XDA Labs app.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Malethra:
I just downloaded from the Play Store and granted the root access with Magisk lol. Try to open the app from Play Store. Maybe it's an installation issue and you'll have to download it again.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Crix.Ful92:
I can't install, backup or restore anything. How can i solve this? I want to flash Lineage 15?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] nikhilbhalwankar:
R u rooted? Also don't you use custom recovery?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] nappingbeam7:
Unable to install ROM! What to do?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
Try harder.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] tasvar:
* Recovery required : https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889764386195927547 (yes, you won't be able to install this using official TWRP).
[G 2014 Original Android Development] nappingbeam7:
I am using this recovery to flash the rom. Everything is perfectly updated.

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What should I do? There is an error while flashing rom
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
Then read that error and do what it says.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] thedeadfish59:
Man, must say you got perfect sense of humor, not only a boring developer :p

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Be more specific, mention the error code, mention the message, just "Unable to install rom" doesnt make any sense, I can assume your motherboard is fried lol (kidding :P )
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Strmy:
How to get camera working? You said in first post, camera works but no video recording which is o.k for me.. So, how? I installed footej camera and still nothing, cant find anything on this thread
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Crix.Ful92:
"My device is ."

How can i fix it?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
Try harder aka follow the instructions in OP. You skipped the most important part.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Crix.Ful92:
I've flash the twrp but not work.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] LuK1337:
That's unfortunate.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Crix.Ful92:
How can i solve the problem? Now i cant't flash stock rom from bootloader, maybe 'cause i have 48.87?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Alex_Lyt:
You are the devil ???

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Try to flash lineage 14. It is much better, than stock.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] saurabh.k:
How to root this ROM.

I flashed superuser.zip but nothing happened.

Someone tell me how to root this.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] sapo_joe:
Well, unless you run AutoCAD, games in 4k, etc, more than 4gb on a phone is overkill, isn't it? Actually, even 4gb is almost too much for a phone. I have a win 10 PC with 4gb of RAM, and that runs even some games like Witcher 3 just fine.

When Google announced Oreo, they said they'd optimize memory usage on it (which they did because initial LOS 15 builds had excellent memory management) and only with 8.1 things started to be strange for 1gb phones.

I couldn't care less, actually, I'm a very happy nougat user (currently on LOS 14.1). Performance is great considering the limitations of the hardware. As I said before, if Oreo ever works without the current bugs on Titans, it'll be a huge bonus, but if not, having stable Nougat is already a win for a phone that had official support halted on Marshmallow 6.0.

And for that we thank YOU Luk1337! ;)

LineageOs 14.1 and its derivatives are the best ROMs for Titan.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] limaunion:
How do you manage to have 89 apps without storage issues? is that an 8Gb device? My Moto G2 has a 8Gb internal/32Gb SD card with latest LineageOS and cannot make any more room for just a dozen of apps no matter if the SD card is formatted as external or internal storage. WhatsApp seems to fill all the space with its multimedia content in the OS partition. Am i the only one having storage issues with the 8Gb model?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] sapo_joe:
Read what he wrote again. Special note on the words 'adaptive storage'.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] vayavalla:
In my experience, the updates of google apps take too much space, then you have two options:

1. Use a smaller GAPPS package

2. Don't update the GAPPS with Google play, and instead install latest GAPPS when you update the system, so the apps are stored on system partition.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] guest4711:
Or use the 3rd option: Avoid g-apps (use f-droid and/or yalp or install microG (e.g. NanoDroid - https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928/post71739848 )). It's good for performance, space, battery life and your privacy...
[G 2014 Original Android Development] vayavalla:
Read what he wrote. Special note on the words "formatted as internal or external" ??
[G 2014 Original Android Development] sapo_joe:
Same thing written in a different way.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] thedeadfish59:
There is something you missing I guess, after making your sdcard as internal, you gotta migrate your data as well, but WARNING: Your SDCARD should be speedy like mine, i mean mine is giving good performance with installed apps on it

And about GAPPS, I used AROMA installer and choose which I like to install, you should go with pico/nano

Attaching pic for your assurance :)
[G 2014 Original Android Development] thedeadfish59:
Of course, I meant 2gb+ there :v like there are some people who expects the Toyota Corolla can give performance like Lamborghini Reventon XD I guess my point is clear!
[G 2014 Original Android Development] meganukebmp:
That sounds like a personal problem. Storage space is perfectly fine on my device. I do ton of emulation on it and have more than half free. It depends on what you consider "core". What Lineage ships with

is

core, everything else is extra, including GAPPs.

If I were to guess, you likely flashed a full GAPPs package and have a ton of social media garbage dumped all over it, plaguing it with wakelocks and constant background notification services. None of which would magically get fixed with a GO build.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] ondoin:
I am an stock Marshmallow. I have the basic Google Apps, Chrome,YouTube, Maps, Drive. Also Whatsapp and Clash Royale. No Facebook or Messenger. No Gmail sync or any other Google sync. No GPS, Bluetooth etc. No notifications. I have disabled anything I can't uninstall and don't use.

I have checked everything on Settings to make sure my phone is smooth. Yet, my phone is slow and not enough free space. That's the reason I need an Android Go edition.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Alex_Lyt:
So make it )
[G 2014 Original Android Development] ondoin:
Very mature answer Alex_Lyt. Did you read the discussion? The developer asked if he should create a Go version from now on and some people voted yes, some voted no. Obviously you wanted to show how smart you are.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Cleidsonl:
There's something you can install that can make android function in low memory mode. It's very similar to the proposal of android GO edition
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Alex_Lyt:
Did you read that no one except you has a problem with a lack of memory?

I have 70 apps and still 2 gb of internal memory is free. What am doing wrong?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] vayavalla:
Install los with a small Gapps package and you're good to go
[G 2014 Original Android Development] limaunion:
Yes, I know that and I did that, but there are some apps that cannot be migrated, afaik whatsapp is one of them and if you don't clean up the multimedia files reguarly you're going to have soon a storage issue.

Btw, the overall performance of the OS is pretty good, no lags at all.

Cheers!
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Lightning~Bolt:
Had a very bad experience in formatting extsd as internal....../data wiped accidentally when I updated my los14.1 nightly using flashfire and I ended up formatting it.....lost everything in that?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] thedeadfish59:
In the world of flashing, first rule is "Never flash or do anything when you are excited or just not careful enough, one accident can change the game" :D I always make a nandroid backup+sdcard backup before flashing any rom, as I have so many datas, it doesnt really matter how much time it takes, but its never worse than losing your fav datas lol

When you migrate the data, the sdcard and internal would act like they are merged, I dont know how you are still getting whatsapp media issues :3 I use whatsapp too and facing no storage issues at all. And OS wont lag if your sdcard is ****t, apps those are installed on sdcard, will lagAF if you dont have speedyAF card, hope you got me :)
[G 2014 Original Android Development] pkirtan84:
how do you get that gesture menu in settings?
[G 2014 Original Android Development] Naruke:
Hello, is it worth install this now in this status? I'm on LineageOS 14.1 but many times I got random reboot with a reset of my mobile (i have to setup again everything from the start like I formatted it or flashed it). I'd like to flash again from zero it, but I dunno if use this or, maybe, come back to stock.

Thanks in advance
[G 2014 Original Android Development] sapo_joe:
In my opinion, it's not. LOS 14 is fast, rock stable and is fully working. Stick to it until we have a fully working official Oreo build (camera, selinux, etc), as LOS team is working to get camera HAL1 on it.

Stock is not worth it, as its very outdated and barely customisable.
[G 2014 Original Android Development] thedeadfish59:
Enabled as Default on AOKP Nougat