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[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] zelendel:
You think it's part of aosp? Why not go look into the source. You will find it is not there at all. I know I am running an aosp 8.0 build on my device right now that I build myself.

Ota can be a pain. Mainly if they try that stupid incremental update which history has proven does more harm then good.

Yes Xiaomi (androids running joke of an oem) but only one device. Guess which one. That's right the Google one just released. As for moto, couldn't tell you. Now that they were sold to Lenovo I will never touch their devices again.

See here is the issue. Google wants to separate Android base files from the oems. This is not possible as oems completely replace 90% of Googles files with their own and the ones not replaced are changed on a whole new level. A perfect example is how each oem makes changes to the android art run time.

Like you said we will see. I know I will never get a device with that stupid setup. As at this moment it follows along with the developed. Heck I can name 20 developers from this site that bought the pixel and after working on it sold it for an older device that was more developer friendly.

As for what users expect or want. Well to be honest it doesn't matter what they want. If they want something then they can do it themselves.

No one cares what Mtk dies really. They are hated on xda and like Xiaomi seen as a running joke.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] :
No offense, but this is a go RTFM moment. the code does reside in AOSP and the last link that I provided you, has links to where the bits reside.... good for you, you can build aosp 8.0, but clearly you aren't familiar with part of aosp and didn't bother to RTFM.

All of the vendors do it, just because certain ROM devs have a problem implementing it, doesn't mean it's broken... the same can be said with odexing, which by default didn't work on Cm13 for me and I had to tinker with the code before it worked properly... cm14 it was completely broken, can't say for lineageos or not...

Whether or not Xaomi or Motorala are a running joke or not is moot. You said the pixel/Xl were the only devices, they aren't. and yeah, moto did make a device with A/B partitioning scheme (it was in a link).... and it doesn't change the fact, that all mediatek and Qualcomm SOCs going forward will support it. (that's a bit of a hint of things to come).

the current progress of Treble mainly address the HAL abstractions, not userspace/runtimes... so your point on that really isn't all that applicable... plus, it's already publicly known that Google and it's major partners are working to create and abstract the vendor specific interfaces/chunks out of userspace, as well. Instead, they will have interfaces integrated into aosp, while still being able to reatin their IP.... there was a great talk about this at the linaro conference at the beginning of October... it's on YouTube, don't have a link off hand.

Citing a few developers is anecdotal. You can also see that devs are working to support the A/B partition scheme, soo....

Have you even owned a device using the A/B partition scheme?... I do. it's great and I would know better than you, if you haven't physically worked with it yourself.

it's not that it isn't developer friendly, it's just new tech. People are slow to change and it requires a change in how things are done, which takes time.... Frick, I've been in the open source community for like 15+yrs, I've heard this kind of naysaying noise every time some dramatic change comes along... it's true on the Linux desktop, toolkits, android ecosystem, everywhere...

you are mildly correct, they can do it themselves or make whatever choice they like... they speak through their wallets and decisions/choices... regardless of that, it's very reasonable to want OTAs, a ROM that isn't cooked up by a random person on XDA, who may have not taken care if signature signing properly or taken other shortcuts when building their rom....

not everyone can build ROMs, some people are just users and they do make up the vast majority or people using XYZ custom ROM...
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] zelendel:
I have been around long enough to see the writing on the wall.

Have I had one? Yes for about 3 days before it was returned.

It's not developer friendly. Google openly hates what we do here. You can just look at the closed Sourced system files Google uses.

You are only partial right. Anyone can bud a rom. Heck a monkey can be taught to do it. Even Apple users can build a rom with only minor research. So it's not a matter of can't but don't want to.

Think what you will. We will see. All I know is where I and many of the devs here sit at the moment.

Just watch how much development is for it.

Let's not even bring Linux into it. That is even a bigger cluster mess.

Idont pay much attention to linux talks as they mean very little to me as open source is a hobby and will never be something used outside of that. Too many things lacking for that to happen.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] :
maybe, maybe not. The project treble stuff and A/B partitioning stuff is probably to new to know the outcome... it is interesting though that the SOC manufacturers are supporting it.

3 days isn't long enough to evaluate anything and really; it's just been the last while where devs are making good progress supporting the A/B stuff... I've had the pixel since launch, I've built AOSP, Copperheados, etc...

Sure Google uses some proprietary files. that's just business, you know; companies making products that contain IP or that they would like to avoid their competitors using their stuff... business 101...

the vast majority of android is opensource, with treble in the future you are going to see a lot of the closed code reside in the /vendor partitions, rather than in the core system... with VTS, you are going to see much of the hardware shims for vendor blobs disappear too... which should make it easier for custom roms, in the long run...

we can argue as to whether google 'hates XDA' or not. lol.... but sometimes good features do end up in AOSP, that were in use all over XDA, which probably influenced inclusion... the overlays/theming stuff comes to mind. It may have been written by Sony, but substratum / ecosystem for theming lives on XDA... and starting with Oreo, it's a lot easier to make use of on a stock ROM.

Maybe. but AOSP takes up an incredible amount of disk space... my observation has been while ROMs aren't hard to build, to do it properly; proper signature signing with private keys (by default, Joe blow would be using public keys from the sdk to sign platform/system apps - which incredibly stupid / breaks android's security model....), being able to fix hiccups in your build environment, etc, etc....aren't always obvious to fix...

sometimes it does take a bit more knowledge and actually reading up-to-date documentation (often not linked to in ROM building guides... Not everyone can fulfill all of the requirements, sometimes for very practical reasons, knowledge aside... maybe they lack disk space, CPU power, RAM, personal time, etc...

At the moment, there is lots of development / apps supporting A/B stuff... Time will tell, I agree... but by the look of what the SOC manufacturers are doing, I think it's a sign that the A/B partition scheme is the direction of things.... it's a big win for end users, discourages vendors from including bloatware, makes updating smooth, magisk can handle OTAs on the pixel, without losing root, etc, etc...

I think in the end, the A/B stuff is good. Same goes with Project treble. I mean, already because of it, most of the hardware is being abstracted...things may not be perfect, but a vast improvement over the past.... Linux will now have an extended LTS (or six years), starting with Linux-4.4 (which is what new oreo devices will be using)...

I think come android P/Q we will see more isolation/abstraction in userspace too, with should make future development and system upgrades much easier. (you know, have more of an iPhone situation, where most people will be running the same core OS.... it'll take a few years though to catch up).
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] Golf c:
Excellent discussion gentlemen! We shall see. Development doesn't look great, but I hope it does improve.
[Xiaomi Mi MIX  Questions & Answers] thetangstr:
Hi all,

I'm running into a very strange problem and I need some help.

I'm running MIUI 9 7.8.31 WEEKLY.

I was in Asia earlier this month and I was roaming on my Verizon sim, no problem at all.

But after I return to the US, the phone register with Verizon Lte and all I get is '123456 3G' as the carrier name. I do have internet but it's slow.

I tried messing around with the APN settings and had no luck. See attached.

Any help is appreciated!
[Xiaomi Mi MIX  Questions & Answers] Icfatpeople:
I have this same issue. Some help please!
[Xiaomi Mi MIX  Questions & Answers] rouxbee:
Update to the 7.9.14 or 7.9.21 and it will automatically have all the Verizon apn's.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Esdras007:
My android BLU NEO ENERGY MINI blu_n130_v10_GENERIC

Android Version: 5.1

Chipset: MT6580

Kernel version: 3.10.72 +

This virus in the app settings.apk version 5.1-1468302136 (22).

Could someone send me a copy of apk settings for me to reinstall?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mikey:
How is that possible....

I'm on official images, flashed, 8.0

View attachment 4267914

And getting a notification to update to Nougat?

View attachment 4267915

Any ideas?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] v12xke:
Were you in the beta program, upgraded to 8.0 and then left the beta program? It may be a "rollback" image. How did you flash 8.0? Full image or OTA? Have you tried wiping the cache partition?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mikey:
I was in the beta program, i dont remember if i left it though.

Full image flash through fastboot

cache was wiped i think lol
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kirishiro:
Stay on the beta program for now, or simply disable the notification by swipe to left and toggle the settings.
[P3600 ROM Development] wgsmw:
http://www.ce4arab.com/vb7/redirect...ifuns/ROM/TRIN/TRIN_WWE_3.08.61.28_B19199.rar
[P3600 ROM Development] icest0rm:
any screen?
[P3600 ROM Development] wgsmw:
lnk

ROM

PP=4Mb

http://pdavnsoftware.com/Mobifuns/RO....28_B19199.rar

User: PDAVIET

Pass.: pdaviet

RAR

Pass.: PDAVIET
[P3600 ROM Development] icest0rm:
bad link...missing part [...]
[P3600 ROM Development] inonprince:
bluetooth hardware not found

this link works fine: http://www.ce4arab.com/vb7/redirect...ifuns/ROM/TRIN/TRIN_WWE_3.08.61.28_B19199.rar

i'm uploading it to rapidshare now.

but after upgrading i'm getting "bluetooth hardware not found" when trying to activate the BT.

anyone else can dis/confirm?
[P3600 ROM Development] dta1974:
Seems like you are not the only one,I´ve being doing some research at pdaviet.com and pdamobiz and I came across another user experiencing the same problem with bluetooth.
[P3600 ROM Development] inonprince:
rapidshare link: http://rapidshare.com/files/90282598/TRIN_WWE_3.08.61.28_B19199.rar.html

does the bt works fine on your device with this rom? (btw, it's worked fine for me with the previous 6.1 - 3.08.61.27)
[P3600 ROM Development] dta1974:
No,no I didn´t mean that I was trying to say that someone else is having the same problem with bluetooth.

Seems interesting but I rather stick with my current rom.
[P3600 ROM Development] vistar:
Bluetooth is probably because you didn't hard reset straight after, i didn't hard reset straight after and i got that bluetooth prob, but when i did hard reset without letting it start up, bluetooth works fine. to tell you the truth though, this 6.1 is not worth flashing, its butt ugly, nothing seems to have changed and lots of garbage programs. stick to lite or vanilla roms and add your own programs. Theres no speed improvements, no storage improvements and looks like a noob just made it, thats my personal opinion though, you may like it, look at PDAVIETS other 6.1 rom in trinity WM6 section with screen shots, and thats what it looks like, green and cheap. ;o)

and for people struggling with the link, i struggled at first but i tried, CLICK HERE

Then follow to ROMS/TRIN and you will see the link.
[P3600 ROM Development] inonprince:
a new version (with the same number) has been released, with bug fixes. (including the bluetooth bug that i had)

link to the thread on pdaviet: http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?p=272457

link to the rom: http://pdavnsoftware.com/Mobifuns/ROM/TRIN/

then dl TRIN_WWE_3.08.61.28_....

and btw, it's pretty much vanilla, with almost 70mb free
[P3600 ROM Development] vistar:
It may have nearly 70mb free but this aint no vanilla, it has ugly today clock, and lots of small programs, personaly this could be a good rom, if the design was a bit more thought out. nothing to get excited about, somebody please tell me whats the difference apart from the keyboard and task menu...
[P3600 ROM Development] inonprince:
well, i like the supplied applications. small and useful.

well, the guys from asia have a different taste than ours. there are even different hardware design for the eastern/western markets (mio A700/A701 for example)

personally, i dont use the htc home plugin, so i dont care about the clock design. I use a different theme then the one supplied with the rom, with the plugins that i like, so after my customization the home screen looks like i want.

threaded sms (like the iPhone), better bluetooth support (from user testimonials), zoom in/out for PIE, and many bug fixes (i guess)
[P3600 ROM Development] Stingray66:
You dunno what you are talking about :mad:

Please do a full research before you talk **** again.
[P3600 ROM Development] sam1st:
​

link​

http://www.zshare.net/download/7343928d9d9931/​
[P3600 ROM Development] dta1974:
I have being playing with that rom for some hours and is pretty good,seems like it doesn´t have videocall but other than that is pretty clean and I haven´t seen all those little things and program you claim Vistar.

It´s a nice rom whether I/we like it or not and the HTC Home and the Quick Launcher are pretty similar to other roms.....so man give it a try before you say those kinds of things
[P3600 ROM Development] prawnz:
any problems with the AD2P and BT? Previous releases have heavy skipping when in AD2P mode.
[P3600 ROM Development] inonprince:
works fine with Parrot MK6100
[P3600 ROM Development] rodalfa:
I found a lot of A2DP skippings only with HTC Audio Manager, but it happened to me for all the last roms I have installed (I think it's from some version of this software, cause it happens since I installed Mary rom and Schaps 4.30, that had it installed in rom). And the fix, A2DPfix, is very battery and cpu consumer, so I prefer not using this soft.

But it works perfect with the rest (I currently use coreplayer).
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
Thank you Stingray66... :D

I like this rom. It is very light for WM 6.1 and works quite good.

I also noticed you are on PDAVIET's forum. I cannot understand their site. Can you tell them Thank You! I appreciate their work... Also, if they like, they can use my modified animated startup image if they want. (attached)
[P3600 ROM Development] jwzg:
Quit 'cher complaining. If you don't like it, don't use it, don't criticize. Unacceptable.
[P3600 ROM Development] Stingray66:
No problems after some tweaking with Schap's Advanced Configuration with a Jabra BT500v
[P3600 ROM Development] Stingray66:
TOP ROM

I agree. It's even so good as Schap's ROM (5.2.1948) or other post-bepe or -ADW ROM (5.2.1908). This one does have newer features and it has a later build.

The problem with the new XIP (which ausdim doesn't use) is that it doesn't remember it's settings like password or BT pairing, but there's a workaround. You know: make the settings, open a webpage, go in flight mode, turn it off and start it again. So, that's not really a big issue.

I made my usual heavy ROM with SPB, WLM, pTravelAlarm, TomTom, FlitsNav GPS, HTC Endkey, HTC Taskmanager, etc. and it still performs very well.

I still sync it with XP and Vista for various content and with Exchange server for the work e-mail. It's working great!

I was already impressed when I saw the fake build 20000. I was more impressed when I did a test with a previous build of WM 6.1, but this one is a lot better!

All the credits go to tom_codon and PhamQuang ofcause !!!:D

Bad thing about this tread is the lack of documentation, starting with the first post ofcause. Nobody knows the features now and you've got to search for the different file locations, etc.

Next time someone post a ROM, think about it .... or don't post at all.
[P3600 ROM Development] tgmcro:
Can you please elaborate more on the workaround from XIP issues, not really sure what I need to do there? My Trinity forgets the password after 3 resets, and I have to use it due to Exchange server enforced security policy.

Thanks,

tgmcro
[P3600 ROM Development] tuksedra:
good rom.. fast.. programs just ok.. all nice.. thanks..!! but why no mms?... anyone?... mmm... anyway.. good rom..
[P3600 ROM Development] draculatang:
Dear Stingray66,

I've downloaded TRIN_WWE_3.08.61.29_B19199.rar, the lastest from PDAVIET, unfortunately, I don't know the rar unzip code. I'd tried to registered on that forum but I don't know the language... I saw your post over that site, can you get the unzip code for me?

thank you very much.
[P3600 ROM Development] jangzc:
Please read the first few post it already stated there for the code to unzip.
[P3600 ROM Development] dr_moham:
mms dos not work in this room???

Why to hom know the reson???

it is very nice and smoth room BUT ???
[P3600 ROM Development] eschaefera:
password for Rar: V3.08.61.29

I'll try "PDAVIET" , But doesn't work, any idea?
[P3600 ROM Development] hoja67:
Try this!

Password: PhamQuang

Cheers!

hoja67

:)
[P3600 ROM Development] Neo64:
Tanks Man !

Best Regards
[P3600 ROM Development] crankshaft:
yeah, whats the deal with no mms? I like the rom but can't continue using it without mms. Anyone know of a CAB to add it?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Rajeev:
Friends

I accidentally removed 2 system apps today. Can anyone provides those? From S7 Edge Nougat . Asking stock apks. Not from any S8 ported roms.

system/priv-app/SmartManager_v5

system/priv-app/SmartManager_v5_DeviceSecurity

These are the files. Some one pls upload it for me? I need whole folder.

SmartManager_v5 folder

SmartManager_v5_DeviceSecurity folder

Pls help
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Spartacus500:
https://files.fm/u/axxh44cf
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Rajeev:
Thank you my friend ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Spartacus500:
You're welcome
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
From a PM I received. Anyone have any ideas? I told him I would post in the forum so other people could offer suggestions. I asked him when he was on stock Marshmallow did the mic and earpiece work? But not received an answer yet.

No sound on my microphones and earpiece when calling
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Poekser:
No sound on stock marshmallow either !!! Suspect that I am using the wrong kernel - have already tried a lot of old kernels as well as newly developed kernels from BHB 27
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
If you flash back to stock Marshmallow with stock Motorola kernel, and you still don't have audio we need to trouble shoot some more. If you use a voice recorder app, does the mic work for that on stock Marshmallow?

Did you ever have mic working before you unlocked the bootloader or just after while you were on pure stock?

Do you still have TWRP installed or are you back on pure stock?

If you have TWRP, flash this "stock" Marshmallow via TWRP:

[ROM] MCG24.251-5-5 100% Stock

https://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/general/rom-mcg24-251-5-5-100-stock-t3565795

If you don't have TWRP, flash this stock Marshmallow via RSDLite or fastboot:

[FXZ] Official Stock Firmware 6.0.1 MCG24.251-5-5

https://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/development/fxz-official-stock-firmware-6-0-1-mcg24-t3569334

Tell me if you have audio when making phone calls, and/or if you have mic working when using a voice recorder. Trying to see if it's hardware or software issue.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] $HaGraTH:
I wrote about this and problem with camera maybe 4 months ago. I know that the electricity "is going" (I don't know how to say it) to the parts like camera and microphone but they are not working. Person in service who tried to fix this say it is software problem. I know that not everybody have it but maybe is it a way to fix it? Is there any thing who we have to flash? ROM, kernel but any other things? Some modules or sth?
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarekahf:
Yesterday my device was restarted, I saw message saying the I am signed out of my google account. No matter what I tried to do, it will not allow to sign in. I enter the user name and password correctly, and it seems it is accepted, then I see message the it is checking info, then I see the same login message again over and over.

In other screens when I try to add account from my InBox app, I finally see message that something went wrong. At that time, the other 2 devices (Huawei P10 and HTC One) were working fine.

On HTC One M9, I deleted the data for all Google Related Apps and Service, I removed all Google Related accounts and rebooted but no luck. It won't accept adding google account.

Also, I opened Google Play Services from Setting/Apps, and I uninstalled latest updates, and still won't let me add google account.

Then today morning, I saw the same message on the other two devices HTC One and Huawei P10.

Then I decided to logout my google account from all devices. So I logged in to my GMail on desktop, and signed out from all web sessions. Also, I changed my password. Now I am only able to login to google account from my Huawei P10 after several trials.

Still on my HTC One M9, it won't let me add google account. I will try shortly on my old HTC One as I didn't remove google account on HTC One.

After several trials, I'm able to login to my Google account on two devices (HTC one and Huawei P10)...

It seems it was temporary problem or maybe after I changed password... but HTC ONE M9 still I'm unable to add any Google account...

On HTC ONE M9, I uninstalled recent updates to Google Play Services from settings / Apps as I was trying to solve the problem. Can you help me reinstall the latest version of Google Play Services on HTC ONE M9 as now I'm unable to access Google Play app hopefully this will help me resolve this problem?

Tarek
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moiboy22:
I am having the same issue with my HTC One M9. What was the solution?
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarekahf:
I can't remember... I'll have to check... If you Google using matching keywords and my name you will find my solution I posted in another forum. I'll try to find it and I'll get back to you.

Tarek
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarekahf:
I found it in androidforums.com dot com, I am not allowed to post outside links. You can find it.

Tarek
[Samsung Galaxy J7 Questions & Answers] qounik:
J710F/non-NFC/Enigma v6/A520FN PORT/SuperSU Root/6.0.1

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:(

After updating to Android 7 (UAE Framework) from Android 6.0.1 Enigma v6 via Odin my Touch Stopped Working just couldn't pass Welcome screen. So I Installed TWRP and My TOUCH was fine there

Then Flash MM Stock via Odin (Indian CSC) again and Touch was again working Great Thn Again OTA to N 7 but once again My TOUCH stopped just like that. Used Sometime with OTG mouse OS was Fast and Smooth.

Again TWRP Wiped couple of times in between all

Restore to my TWRP BACKUP Enigma Fine Everything

Thn I flashed a moded N (SuperNova N v0.1) but Same again No Touch in OS but TWRP have Touch Working

Now I wipe flashed SuperNova 4 and My TOUCH is fine but when I Boot Nougat This happens

I want

Solution, Nougat And My TOUCH working :crying: