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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
OK, now you're getting strident about this. I'm a video professional, so I refute your misinformation. I've told you why you're wrong on this. You say ALL the demo units in the store showed this.

This phone has been reviewed by tons of people and many videos shot. Something like this showing in actual videos would have been noticed before now, if prevalent.

You're shooting a display, not showing us the actual video. We don't know if the display settings are botched, for instance. You don't seem to understand you don't shoot a display like that to show a problem. You show the ACTUAL video. We also don't know what your settings were on the device you are were shooting with, besides not knowing the display settings on the LG V30 you were displaying the video.

Do you understand that? Take a moment, breathe, and read all that again.

Just two quick videos to refute

LG V30 Video Test 1080 60FPS Unedited & No Filters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdZHUsWA9m0

LG V30 Quick 4K Video Test! Unedited & No Filters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txoqbB3-zE0

Plus all the tons of videos in this forum shot with this phone.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
Under normal auto camera mode? Becauae under the wide angle mode doesnt happen with these demo units.

Thanks
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
You are right no LTE band info on the box. I went to check it myself today. I guess we will have to believe what Fido/Rogers and Telus. I even email LG canada they say they have no such info available.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
That information normally isn't listed on boxes. The model number is supposed to give us the clue but a lack of consistency across different sources and still nothing from LG for clarification. Telus lists the following way down under Specifications:

LTE : Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25/29/30/66

GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850/1700/1900/2100 MHz)

If that happens to be correct, that is a fairly versatile and basically compatible with most carriers in North America.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
My last 3 phone including my wife's are asia model. All of them list the band supported on the box. Which I think they should.

Well on Rogee and Fido website it said also support band 8. Telus didnt say.

I wonder if there is a code you can check that you key in that will show the band supported.

Did you end up getting the phone?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I haven't picked one up yet. I am actually looking at cases and screen protectors right now. I do ultimately want the dual-SIM version, if it supports enough of the bands between Telus and T-Mobile. If I cave and buy an H933, I may sell it or let the girlfriend have it to replace her 6P once I pick up the dual-SIM version. The H933 offers better band support and no AT&T branding than the AT&T model. The only way I would opt out on the dual-SIM and buy the US unlocked model is if the dual-SIM version doesn't have the band combo I want or takes too much longer to come out. Having to wait for something I want sucks! :P
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
Same here. Usually Taiwan or Hongkong version has the dual sim. If the LTE band support on the DS is better i would pass on the Canafian version.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] VeixES:
I made initial LTE band support table for different variants of V30, can view it here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ObgERZB6lSCT4CEf8TphIEGXQWrDNyDhjS68w8w6ulM/edit?usp=sharing

This info is gathered from around the internet, mostly LG sites. Needs further confirming via actual device/model, but it is good start to get idea.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Thanks. This is great.

What some people don't realize is "official" specs can be incomplete. Also, U.S. FCC testing (or testing by counterparts in other countries) can be incomplete. The FCC in the U.S. only tests for bands that other carriers use in the U.S. or may interfere with U.S. government/emergency services. They don't test for bands not used in the U.S. and some OEMs have bands on phones they don't publish . So, some phones may have more bands than "official" specs say or even government agencies like the FCC say.

The 2014 Moto XT1225 (international version of the Droid Turbo, initially sold in various Latin American countries) had LTE band 5 (an AT&T band), which the FCC found -- but were not on Motorola's official specs. Yet, Motorola had LTE band 3 on their official specs -- which the FCC did not find (because LTE band 3 is not a band used by U.S. carriers). Also, the FCC found an additional HSPA band (IV) Motorola didn't put into their official specs, but one that U.S. T-mobile used. (The XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17.)

My point is on this phone Motorola listed at least one LTE band the FCC did not find (because they didn't test for it), and did not list all the LTE and HSPA bands the FCC DID find. Very strange, but stuff like that happens for business reasons.

I found and confirmed both those "missing bands" through modem software testing -- and LTE band 5 was confirmed by Canadian users in actual use. (I've since connected to LTE band 5 through my phone, but back then there was no AT&T LTE band 5 in my area yet.) It seems Motorola initially was going to also sell that phone in the U.S., so it had all the AT&T and T-mobile LTE/HSPA bands at the time... Then they changed their minds, but still left all those bands enabled. The FCC only tested this phone because the phone was sold in Puerto Rico, a Latin American country which is also a U.S. territory.

Only when the Moto XT1225 was released for sale in India MONTHS later (March 2015), did Motorola publish all the LTE/HSPA bands in their documentation, which we already knew about. But still to this day, some "spec" websites do NOT list all the bands in the Moto XT1225. They only list the bands Motorola initially published, not the "amended" documentation.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
The other single SIM phone I am curious about all of hte bands actually supported, is the H932SV T-Mobile version. According to T-Mobile's site, the list of actual bands is pretty small compared to most other versions. With AT&T being their roaming partners in the US as well as Bell/Telus in Canada, there seems to be a lot I would say are missing.

Quad Band GSM

LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 20, 28, 29, 40, 41, 66, 71

UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)

I hope whatever versions end up being rootable, all actually contain the same hardware for the modem across the board. If so, that should make it possible to enable more bands to have the best multi-carrier compatibility.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] KennyG123:
Thread cleaned

Personal attacks will not be tolerated!

[MENTION=6990822]sundoggy[/MENTION] please upload an actual picture that has the bands in it. Video of another display will show bands of electrical interference. I used to get that photographing the television screen all the time.

Thanks everyone!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
T-mobile is missing band 17 for Rogers/Fido. I won't recommend getting US version really. the Euro H930 will be better for Canada.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Yeah. I was a bit disappointed by that but then again, it might be something that is there and working, just not actually mentioned by T-Mobile or LG US. There is no official source for model number band information, which really is disappointing and LG doesn't seem to want to respond to any question referencing the actual band information for each model.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
I would like to. However, since its a demo unit in the store, I can't transfer the image out. Why would I carry all the gadgets into a phone store filming with "professional gear" like someone said. I am not bored enough purpose try to make some chaos for this phone. I want to buy this phone why would I even do that.

I understand there is an electrical interference can cause similar effect. However, my own eyes see it on the unit as well on the actual unit.

All I am asking is for those people who actually own a retail unit to see if this does happen.

Simple Yes or NO is fine with me.

I don't know why some people made such a big deal and accuse me of editing the video.

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Hahaha back to the stuff I said. if they write it on the box everything would be a lot easier.

I guess wait for the DS version. LG V20 DS has good coverage LTE band which I have right now.

Just no VoLTE or WIFI calling in Canada.

But G6 DS has very poor LTE band coverage.

I will try to take a picture of the box or from the LG Taiwan website once they release it.

Taiwan version won't release until Nov.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] KennyG123:
They were just trying to help and needed to see the picture. As many testified that they do not have the issue, we can assume it was some kind of electrical interference in the store.

Thanks
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I really couldn't care less about the Canadian carrier implementation of WiFi Calling. When i travel, I always have my T-Mobile phone with me because roaming with it is so much cheaper than anything any Canadian carrier would ever consider offering. T-Mobile's WiFi Calling also works exceptionally well. Whether on a cruise, plane, or somewhere where cell service is non-existent, it works reliably with very good call quality.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] VeixES:
Sorry if little offtopic, commenting about the band support.

Give us system dumps(from any variant of V30) to play with and then potentially can confirm band support :) There are qualcomm modem configuration files (*.mbn) that live in the system partition. These configuration files contain xml style and binary configuration for the modem. Sometimes these *.mbn files contents reveal devices band support and supported carrier aggregation combination.

I have personally invested alot of time to go through Sony system images(xz,xz1,xzpremium) and compiled many tables of CA support per operator etc.

I have gone through this system dump, but did not find hints for band support unfortunately https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/development/custom-tot-lgm-v300s-sw-version-10j-t3681142

I have attached .mbn files from that system dump if anyone wishes to inspect them.

If going through system dumps does not produce any results then next step is a rooted access to user device to get solid confirmation.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bromexadrine:
I am pretty sure the phone i got from rogers came unlocked...inserted mts simcard right out the box...didnt ask for unlock code. Inserted another carrier card and again it did not ask for unlock code.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
"hidden testing menu (277634#*#, Field Test, Modem Settings, Network Mode)" I got in from LG G4 forum. Maybe this will work and show us some clue if you have LG V30?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VDg-k1PQ48

Here is one for LG v20 If you're talking about being able to choose specific LTE bands, I do that on my Tmobile handset using this dial code (use at your own risk)

*#546368#*918# - for AT&T you need to use 910 or 915 depending on your model # (not sure why AT&T has 2 different model #'s)

So it would be

*#546368#*910# or *#546368#*915#

Then

Go to Field Test

Modem Settings

LTE Band Selection

Choose band

I Guess test code might be different then.\

Check this forum

https://xdaforums.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-hidden-menu-t3595369

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What's mts? but did it actually work through the network?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bromexadrine:
bellmts is a provider.

Bands on lg v30 from rogers :1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,28,29,30,38,40
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
Did you get that from Rogers website? See this is what we were talking about. There are some inconsistency from each carrier.

I hope Roger is correct.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bromexadrine:
That is what was on my phone when accessing the hidden

service menu
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
[MENTION=3116388]jcsww[/MENTION]

Awesome Bro!!!! thank you very much :good:

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by the way what code did you type to get the info?

Thanks again
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] bromexadrine:
*#546368#*933#
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] VeixES:
Thank you very much. Do you happen to have maybe sim card from other provider or friend has one? For testing would be interesting to know if that band list changes if different provider sim is used(wind/freedom has B66 which is currently not mentioned in your list).

I have also started google sheets with page having the confirmed bands for the models https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ObgERZB6lSCT4CEf8TphIEGXQWrDNyDhjS68w8w6ulM/edit?usp=sharing

If anyone wants to contribute different models band there(via service menu *#546368#*933#), please let me know.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Hmmm. No band 66 there.

I have a collection of SIM's here but band 66 is an important band to have. I have SIM's from T-Mobile UK, Vodafone UK, T-Mobile US, Rogers, Bell, Fido, and Telus. Although the SIM can limit the bands used, it shouldn't hide that band from being shown in the Field Test menu.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
Only Freedom uses band 66. I think T-mobile starting too as well.

Not sure why the Canadian version has no band 66.

They should be no more version and open all bands just like Apple.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
T-Mobile has been using it for a while as well. It is essentially an extension of band 4, which both carriers use. I am going to be around the Eaton's Centre tomorrow. I am going to hit up every store that has them and see if there are any band differences based on what SIM is inserted. I don't think there will be but I can always pull my T-Mobile SIM out of my 6P and see if they are unlocked.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Well the the US998 has LTE band 66, which is the "North America" carrier unlocked version, even if it's labeled "US".
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
It does but it doesn't seem to list 17, 28, 29, 38, 39, 40, 41, and 71. I don't really need all of those but 17, 29, 38, and 40 would be nice. I asked someone in one of the T-Mobile threads to check the device versus what T-Mobile lists and the available bands is similar to the H933 but also with band 66. T-Mobile also touts 71 on their V30 so at least from what information is out there. The T-Mobile variant of the V30 has the most band support out of the box. Obviously none of us has the US998 unlocked version to try and see but at least for now, for me, the T-Mobile version would make sense if I am going to buy one right now or in the very near future. I know if I buy it outright, T-Mobile will SIM unlock it on the spot.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
17 is a subset of 12. If it has 12, it has 17. Some sites will even list it as 12/17, to show the relationship.

B&H shows 38.

http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/59efda665976b/northAmericaLinks (1).pdf
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
Yeah. The lack of concrete information on the US998 unlocked is making me a bit iffy. This is the post I mentioned above complete with screenshots from the H932SV. Yeah, 71 is missing, which will either come in an update or the persin doesn't have access to that band in their area. Either way, at least we know it will have it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
[MENTION=3116388]jcsww[/MENTION] where do you travel? seem like the band coverage is enough for any where you go really.

I would like to know T-mobile's info as well, but I am more interested in the DS version as my LG V20 DS is so convenient.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I spend time in the UK for a couple of months every few years as well as travel regularly back and forth between the US and Canada. Although I use Telus in Canada, T-Mobile in the US, and usually T-Mobile UK or Vodafone UK when overseas. My girlfriend's family is from south West Virginia. Cell coverage in mountain areas tends to be very spotty at best. The more bands, the better the roaming potential. AT&T offers some poor coverage in that area on one of the old US Cellular networks. Even my girlfriend with a 6P doesn't get service in and around her parents house and she has service with AT&T.

Although Canada's largest city is Toronto, the cell coverage can be somewhat of a joke. Rogers/Fido/Chatr barely scrape a bar in the area I am in right now for a couple of reasons. One of the cell towers needs upgrading as well as over-provisioning have pretty much made the service in Scarborough-Guildwood useless. On Bell/Telus/Koodo network, the service is better. However, when you travel across the country, the bands change a lot. Again, the Rocky Mountains of Alberta tend to be very bad for cell service. Wanting band 71 is pretty much future-proofing when up in Canada, because Canada is about 5 years behind in terms of network technologies and infrastructure.

Ironically, I don't really need the Telus number and service for the most part. If it wasn't for friends and family not having US calling and texting on their insanely over-priced cell phone plans, then I would have dropped the service years ago. My T-Mobile plan includes roaming to Canada and Mexico at no extra cost with unlimited calling, texting, and data basically anywhere in North America for less than half the price I pay Telus for a lot less.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
Sounds like you need Wi-fi calling!! lol
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
Remember this photo? it said band 66 here.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
Just let you know the demo unit is not the H933 model. Its a V300V model.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
My appreciation for WiFi Calling comes from taking a cruise. Then again, $320US for 10 days of internet wasn't cheap either but using onboard cruise cell phone plans end up costing more if you actually want to talk for more than a few minutes. WiFi Calling also comes in very handy when flying.

Yeah, but that falls back to the inconsistent information with each model out there. Between carriers, various sites, and what users are reporting their phone is picking up, all tend to be slightly different. LG doesn't seem to want to offer up any official on model band support. I have tweeted and e-mailed their support about that with no response from LG Canada for LG US.

I noticed that the last time I was in Telus. When I was in Freedom though, they didn't have a demo model so they pulled one out of the box for me to look at. That is probably where I will start today and to also inquire where they have band 66 service. One of the perks of having a T-Mobile phone up in Canada is I can manually select the network because T-Mobile allows me to connect to any of the networks up here for roaming, although I tend to favor the Bell network for much better service.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I am definitely not too happy with what I wanted to do today. Rogers, Freedom, and Fido stores didn't have any retail units in stock. My best shot at getting to verify one right out of the box was with Freedom. Telus did have them but the ignorant guy at Telus in the Eaton's Centre was too much of an idiot to understand that the demo and what come in the box was a different model, even when trying to point it out to him. I will be complaining about that poor service once I am done with this post. The Freedom by me should have some more at some point next week. Here's hoping my lick is better then.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
anyone on freedom mobile to check their lte bands? See if it will change if it has a different sim.

Since Freedom's main band around greater Van around is only 66.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] niggizito:
Hi cy88!

Can you tell me where is that 2$ unlock service?

Thank you.

Nik
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
[MENTION=3116388]jcsww[/MENTION]

http://www.lg.com/hk_en/mobile-phone/lg-H930DS-Moroccan-Blue-128GB

THis is just pure sad from the DS version LTE band support. I can see why LG is losing money selling phones. They are just kinda dumb.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
D: That pretty much settles it for me then. If I can get a good deal on the V30 through Telus, then I will buy it from them. Otherwise, I will pick up the T-Mobile version unless something concrete comes out on the non-carrier US998 that says it has all of the band support the H932SV has but also is on LG's list of being developer friendly before I decide to buy.

LG has really dropped the ball with trying to sell this device! The delays in the first place that continue with the non-carrier versions are definitely not helping. The screen could be better but there are definitely phones with worse. Developer support when the dual-SIM and non-carrier versions launch will probably take them a while, which again is another drawback. Although I am used to having my phones rooted, the Pixel 2 XL really doesn't do it for me and the U11 really doesn't either. Ugh! Why do companies have to be so unfriendly to third party development?! Maybe I should just buy a V20 dual-SIM from Amazon for $360.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
Yeah LG kept ****ing things up like they don't care. Always behind and does not deliver.

LG V20 DS version I like a lot, but the size I don't like. But no band 66 I think.

Band 66 is too new.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
That is ultimately why I didn't buy one a few months ago. A 5.7 inch display is fairly small compared to my Nexus 6, which I feel is the best fit for my hand in a thin case for a 16:9 display.

Band support is one thing that sort of gets shoved aside for price. $360 means I can do without band 66 and 71 for a little while longer. :P If I am paying $800 though, I expect it to have 95% of everything I want in a phone and to be the latest tech.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] mickliq:
Anyone purchase this yet from Rogers? Supposedly Rogers now sell this unlocked in advance of December 1st mandate coming into effect that all devices must be sold unlocked.

I'm still tempted, but the screen issues worry me. Going to wait until at least HTC U11+ is announced (hopefully) this week to see if massive battery is true.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I just received a call from LG Canada's mobile phone support in regards to my e-mail inquiry from well over a week ago. I was told specifically in regards to the LG V30 model H933, that the LTE bands supported are: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, and 30. No band 66, no band 29, and nothing from 38-41. That settles it for me! It just doesn't offer enough LTE band support to be useful to me, especially for the price! I was told if I had anymore questions, to feel free to call them back at 1-855-542-2623.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] sundoggy:
[MENTION=3116388]jcsww[/MENTION]

I don't think it's true. Freedom is selling this phone as their LTE supported phone. Their LTE band in the west region is only band 66.

How do they even get LTE if this phone has no band 66? So Freedom mobile is selling lies?

Plus Roger/Fido said it differently too.

I will believe what Roger and Fido has posted on their site.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcsww:
I know Freedom and Rogers mention it has band 66 but they do have the exact same model as every other Canadian carrier, the H933. Telus also mentions it supports band 29, which LG says it doesn't. This is the frustrating part! Trying to get accurate information seems almost impossible. If someone that has one wants to enter the field test menu to actually see what it supports. That would be greatly appreciated. Until then, I have to believe the manufacture because carriers and sales people aren't the most knowledgeable people.