yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
I benchmarked the latest stock rom against AP3 and it scored higher in several categories, however I still like AP3 a lot, I am not dissing it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] vicinc:
The longer the wait, the better the ROM. You have to wait for the good things in life.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] vicinc:
It is raining depresingly in Manchester tonight, I go to sleep hoping for a sunny day 2morrow and a new rom?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] automoveis:
The sunny perhaps! :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] c1oudrs:
You'll never convince me that apples vs apples--a reasonably up-to-date pk rom vs a reasonably up-to-date stock that the pk won't be better. Way better.

I'm running pk3 now. If all Pawel62 did was update (wm6.1 newest opera etc) to the pk3 then I'd be pretty happy. However, there's always goodies in the newest rom. Its an amalgam of the best htc puts out plus extras. The pk one is better, more stable, more useful.

Just look at how long it took the team to put out pk2&3. Then look at pk4. Its been a long time between roms comparitively. It represents how much work went into pk4 in my opinion.

Sure its disapointing week after week when pk4 doesn't come out. But make no mistake--it'll be the best rom out 6here when it does come out.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
trust me is worth the wait. it doesnt hit you immediately, but its great, slightly faster [might be placebo] and generally good... now al i need is a proper cascading start menu which can be launched from the bottom of the screen.. so basically have my taskbar at he bottom...

dah then ill have the speed and look of vista...

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
I may sound like a pessimist, but I am really starting to think that the hard spl issues may get to the point where it''s not worth the time for cmonex and oli to keep flogging at. I wonder why an attempt hasnt been made to downsize the rom and use the old unlocker. I also wonder if it will be released if the issues to make it unbrickable are not overcome.

Got a backup plan Pawel?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] weaselcossey:
To not release at all would be........devastating

? Cruel and unusual? Not even a remote possibilty. Remember some are already running it. The same message by Itxda will be posted before the download link even if the enire planet thinks its unbrickable. If you're not sure......do this at your own risk.....all that stuff.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
i dont think its so much abut the space, but so wifi and other stuff work, maybe drivers hardcoded into the system are different on the x7510. if it was a space thing, surely youd need a new spl for every rom...

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Rau:
More than 1 week reading and waiting the nice ROM (longer than waiting nice girl), still nothing. Better let sleeping web 4 a week then wake it up to enjoy nice ROM
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
Weasel... love the avatar. Where are you in memphis? I was just there have family in germantown.

I agree, not releasing would be a major let down. I just wonder how many all nighters the british contingent will pull before they decide it's not worth it. Notice I don't say not possible, I think this team could make anything work, but how long do you keep trying before something else becomes a priority?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
Rory, read eagle steves post a few pages back.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
oli and cmonex are at it all day.. that is at the unlocker not at it... anyways, theyre not releasing the preunlockr because of some serious problems. basically from what i know, a driver needs to be installed at some point, adn in vista, that took too long, so another thing timed out [i think it was the connection] and the spl didnt flash, making everything **** up

yes it got fixed in the ned, but only by cmonex giving very specific instructions over more than an hour. and this was at 4am our time. so i think you can appreciate that cmonex, oli pawel and a few of us who know how to solve these problems would rather there were very few, because then those can be solved by cmonex herself, and it will be quicker and easier for everyone...

update: the spl is to make more space for the rom, and to not **** up stuff like wifi gps and device id's like what happened to pawel's athena

this is why u cant get the rom now, the team dont want a bunch of people with no wifi and **** due to them

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] galt:
I think it's much more likely that the incessant demanding, clamoring, nagging and pestering displayed in this thread have worked as a demotivational factor for those who are working on the unlocker. How hard would you work to make a bunch of ungrateful pricks happy? Obviously this doesn't represent 100% of the contributors here, but the signal to noise ratio is way out of whack here.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
How about just make the rom smaller (i.e. vanilla)?

btw - no offense, but putting yourself in some sort of elite group is probably a misconception. Many folks here have used a terminal connection to fix ****ups.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
As if they are really paying attention! At least I think they are wise enough not to.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
long story. bit complicated but yes and no. better decision is to use it for vanilla.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
its definatly possible. rom should be here soon.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol shipped one sucked :p its like going from a small 4 cylinder car which is reliable and not bad at all to very expensive super car that looks good and has many goodies.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol no clue eather. :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
benchmarks can be misleading. its when u use it that u see the difference.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yep. its like some foods too. the longer they cook the better.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yep. anything good takes lots of work and time.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yep. the vanilla will be even faster. all the applications added generally slow the rom down. vanillas are always faster.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
people have the new rom. we are just making it simplier. if we downsize the rom we wont be able to fit as much.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yep we will still post the error so the few that brick wont come to cry. they will still cry but we show them the disclaimer and move on to helping them.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
its kind of both. the new spl gives us more space and also wont cause issues. the new spl is needed eather way.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yep very correct. dont know about the issues though. im not so sure about that. i know though when i tried fitting everything in the smaller space i had issues with the rom.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
meh they dont check that much. i do though. if they checked more i think oli would of cursed out so many people here :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
listen i can make the vanilla use the older size os.nb and other stuff but i remember when i put the stuff into a smaller os.nb i faced some issues with rom. i could try again with new build but i believe it will be better to make it use the new spl and to face less issues.

all i know is everything works better when the spl and os.nb are from the x7510. also if u choose vanilla and find u want the platinum later u can upgrade just the rom and not spl anymore.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
I do admire how you have kept your composure throughout this ordeal, Pawel, and if anyone reading has visited this thread more than once and doesn't expect whining, speculation, provocative comments, discussions of sheds and beer, complaints, compliments, etc., etc. I don't know what to say...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
wasn't easy but i just laugh at it all.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
qtp

btw - have quicktest professional for windows mobile setup and readying scripts that will run various functionality for 24 hours straight. If there are leaks we will find them...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
nice. good to know.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mw22:
yeah u got to have a sense of humour here or u would wind up depressed

good thing we can still laugh about it
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] weaselcossey:
I'm actually a bit outside of Memphis, closer to Jackson, TN. I just put Memphis so it might be recognized. I do have some family in Memphis, I wouldn't know how to begin to tell you the general area though.

A friend of mine used to live in St. Pete, name's Jeremy, but everyone calls him Jay. I stayed with him for a couple of weeks one summer, I loved it down there. I think he was somewhere around 68th street, not sure though. Also, people in St. Pete are MUCH better drivers than people around here.

When I get tired of the avatar, I could send it to you, might use it elsewere anyway.

And about the rom, its definitely a matter of when, not if.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mw22:
thats telling like it is
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
Yeah, I know Jackson. Only Starbucks between Memphis and Nashville.

Yeah, I know the ROM will be released at some point. I been involved in this thread for far too long to guess when though...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Another day, still no ROM

I'm a bit p!ssed off that a few others have got it and I'm not one of them but there's not a lot I can do about it.

Hey Ho!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Rau:
Where is our AP4?????? Please let it out SIR PAWEL. It is well done cook already
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
can we have only the new radio 1.57?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] JanMarc:
I believe it's all in there:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=372904
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
thanks thanks thanks
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
I'm feeling quite priveleged I must admit! But I can one say that (not you off course) people would have bricked. I almost did. :(

I was saved by cmonex though. :)

Mabury
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lakeman:
Hi maybury

I watched weaselcosely try to install ap4 with help on irc from"adult" last night( my time)

are people being used as crash test dummies one at a a time and did you have a new spl installed as well?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
it just depends if youre on when they post the links. and if theyre on. adult helped me out too, amde a really good guide.

when you think of flshing, you just sync then run the ruu... 2 steps

this guide has 17

rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Yes people are being used as gunui pigs. And yes I've got the new SPL but not final yet. I still am at risk of f*cking up my phone... :eek:

Mabury
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
ok i want to brick my device, can i now please have the rom?

i guess the anser in no.

my biggest mistake is that i bought x7500, with another device i would have at least 10 roms to select without begging anyone.

Maybe its not the x7500 fault, why dont you all admit that you like people beging for your super rom, ok keep it, end.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
Is it the full ROM they offered or is it the Vanilla?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
x7501 is the best pda so piss off.if you dont like X7500 you can buy something else.This ROM will be great and i dont like people who are starting to flame.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Is full. Vanilla is Pawel062s next project.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
are you one of the rom developers?

ha hah ha
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
You're completely right. Device is great and the rom only makes it greater. Did I tell you already how nice the new Opera is? :P
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
TIP for bricking the Athena:

Throw it of a really high building!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] DeathAngelxxx:
Hi there,

I can't believe you people *****in around that you don't get the ROM yet. :confused:

Everyone should be happy that the athena project guys are doing a great job of cooking up real good ROM.

If it wasn't for them we would be stuck with the standard ROMs :mad:

So please be patient until the ROM is done. I'm tired of reading this hostile threads to the developers.

Athena-Project rulez... keep it up guys and THANKS A LOT of doing this!

Greetz,

DeathAngel
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
or you can give him the link for the rom for being a good child....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
Patience is a virtue, relax it's coming to you, but in the mean time and in between time how bout you continue to enjoy the forum and get to know others in here. Sorry you feel the way you feel big guy but I'm sure you would be more upset had you gotten the ROM and bricked your device during the upgrade.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
One more time.

I'M NOT ALLOWED. And what a ass would I be when being allowed to test it I would give it to other. I would like to but I would understgand if Pawel062, ltxda, Olipro and cmonex would ban me for life... ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
i dont want the link now.i will wait for final release.I will repeat it.Dont flame here.if you dont want the X7500 go away.the team is working hard on it.

Mabury:no:p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
My 2 cents.

I think the Athena Project Team is acting in a responsible manner by not releasing an unlocker that would brick your device. Just look back into the first version and see how Olipro was blamed when problem arose. If Olipro is not comfortable releasing it yet, don't rush him. It's not fair for him and not fair for the people who subsequently brick their devices.

If you're too itchy and just want a ROM to play with, you can try out WM6.1 which is really close to the Vanilla version anyway.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
they dont like begging. if they did, they would have released because theres now about 150 pages of mainly begging.

i dont know if youve just got an xthena or what, but you cant just come here saying stuff like this, if you dont like the forum and lack of roms, id gladly buy your athena fro a good price, so you gan go get a kaiser or soem other not as good as athena device... btu with loads of roms. and why are you moaning anyways? theres pk3 to have while you wait.

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
maybe i ll try to play with my girlfriend when other only can play with phones
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
go and play!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Hmmm. Buying a backup Athena. That's a thought. :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mohanad:
Madagascar

How much time this gonna take.....

I am not complaining...

I am just remumbering my favorate movie

MADAGASCAR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
this guys getting like tomary with the sly abuse.. well tomary wasnt sly at all.. but lol

how little he knows about the athena commnuity

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lakeman:
thanks maybury and rory

word on irc is that release is closer than before but work still to be done
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
yeah, i didnt hear it from the horse's mouth, but supposedly, the hardspl is done, config app is nearly done, and it all just needs to be packaged together into a new single exe

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lakeman:
by the way, i have 2 ameos as a bargain came up on ebay last year and it gave me a chance to experiment a bit at a time and give one to my wife
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
AP team are Gods:D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eagle 1:
@pawel062

What does the file wt5portm do that is in the \windows\startup folder do?

What app does it belong to?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
my ameos kinda slightly ****ed up, i was just kicking my ball down my garden and it foll out of my pocket onto a rock, and scratched a corner pretty abdly.. luckily kb was on though... :O

id love a black one rather than silver, looks way cooler... or even cooler, an x7510 :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lakeman:
took mine snowboarding to use the gps track and found some famous australian blue snow just where i was turning near a tree and backed into it.

Bent the keyboard but luckily te screen was intact.

also dropped it on concrete and cracked the plastic around the stylus.

fortunately the other one is pristine
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
Wow, Very Scary

I had a close one the other day, I found a near perfect spot in my car to keep the Athena, While driving to work I had a hard turn and it flipped out of its niche and wound up under the passenger seat so I could net even see it (did not hear any cracking sound, so I hoped) when I was able to get at it, My Athena was unscathed, I breathed a sigh of thanks.

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] WiZaxx:
@pawel062

As (by your admission) you are not so busy, would it be the time to get started with the blackberry challenge? prize is still valid;)

Cheers
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] pakmakos:
they can't ban you for life. there is no such a thing:D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
ip ban? not that they would for being keen lol

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] pakmakos:
How innocent you are
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] pakmakos:
Oh God, im bored to death!!! The time is 18:19 and twenty three seconds of the minute...........................
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] pakmakos:
the revolution begins! release the ROM. Viva la revolution! lets burn this forum......... the roof is on fire..

BURN MOTHA ......... BURN
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnripper:
i like pakmakos
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] pakmakos:
THANX M8. ARE YOU WITH ME????? LETS LEAD TOGETHER THIS REVOLUTION
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
god are you tomary and his mate or something?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] pakmakos:
I Am The Leader. Youhouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

You Can Call Me Tomary;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
oh god.. thatever happened to anti-ap? thought it was gona ba released before ap.. doesnt look like thats going to happen...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] pakmakos:
Where Is The Ap????
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
whats ap??
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Digital.Diablo:
And on a completely unrelated note...

I'm hoping this isn't going to turn into Vista - loads of bells and whistles promised, improved stability and faster running, but extremely delayed, full of bugs, and the ruining of the developers. :eek: :(

Still, I do have more faith in PK than MS, so fingers x'd that its all thats promised :D.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
no pk4 is not like vista.. its better than pk3 and looks pretty similar... so its not a graphic change with the same base...

Rory
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] JanMarc:
I think they wait until post 2000 is hitted to release AP4:)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
everyone said the same about post 1000
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
2000 posts seems a bit unrealistic to me. Look how long it has tgalen till we reached 1000. Do you really want to wait that much longer?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
The cup's already in your hand mabury10, you can say whatever. :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] silverken:
waiting,waiting,..................how LONG?????
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Well in my defence. I am still trying to help out. Some said I would drop off the face of the earth. Now that I have what I wanted.

I will still help / test / try... ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
That's the best way to do it bud, and build credibility and good friendship with it. That's the way a true hobbiest does it.;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Though I hope the Athena will still stay in favor a bit longer. I like being an early adaptor (and maybe a tester). My paycheck doesn't allow me to buy a new device every month... :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] silverken:
I read the other thread, somebody promised last friday,but not releases it. maybe anybody can explain the reason.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Read this tread... Few pages back and you'll get the answer.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] silverken:
thank u so much,could u give me the link???
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] charon72:
No. its NOT available.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
only few testers have AP 4.0.The official release will be soon.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Now I have done all the searching. Click here.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] silverken:
thank u, I got it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] bharatrit:
the million dollar question

which brings us back to the origional question -------- WHEN,s the ROM coming ??????????????
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] silverken:
the answer is waitting........
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] D1ab70:
it looks like soon!

It looks like today could be the day (really!) afaik from irc the unlocker is finally finalized ,idk bout the config app status but as of now how-to's are being made.The german version is done they are working on english and french now.

Pawel hopefully should confirm this soon and/or correct me if im wrong.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] darkjedi:
God you people are ****ing annoying. Stop *****ing and just STFU! You'll get the ROM when you get the ROM. Stop asking when it's going to be released, stop asking what's taking so long. If you can't wait, go make a ROM yourself. Impatient, immature ****s, I tell you.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
Thanks for the update D, could be very good news...

To paraphrase some of our more eloquent posters 'Pawel, where is ROM? It is very well cook already. I wait for pretty rom (longer than pretty girl) and feel sleep web, wake up one week to rom may be answer...'

This thread cracks me up...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
Some of these guys need a new hobby, like killing themselves without injuring others in the process. Oh, and btw if infact you do decide to do it leave a note along with some good footage stating to uploaded it on sites like crazy**** dot com, so people like me can watch it from my Athena. Thanks in advance. It just goes to show how ungreatful some of them are. :rolleyes:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
mabury: u dont have to send me the ht album files. i dumped the rom and got it. thanks anyways
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
My only question is would the scream when jumping off the building be out of sync with the mouth movement when watching it using tcpmp?