yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
the screenshot in that old thread of the welcomehead is a mistake really. i overwrote the old one with the new one. oh well just ignore that anyway since its a very old rom now :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
call firewall latest version is cooked into the rom.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
Good.Im leaving when i return i hope it will be here.bye
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. thats what i was going to say :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] miguel_acedo:
That is weird my calculations trow £89,122,25.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol :p u guys are too funny.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
the process will be simple and safe. if it wasnt we wouldnt use it. it'll use a sspl to get the new spl on there. its the same as if u would be downgrading ur spl for warrenty.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] toastedlogic:
starting to worry here guys...

Alright, I'm starting to worry a little bit about the mental health of some of the members of our community... Pawel, for the greater good... Please give these people a beta rom or something... ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol. the release will just have to include a doctor that will be available to those effected by the release. of course it'll be free.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] THE GZS:
Don't worrie, send them to me:

I've got a backroom at my appartment where I put people to sleep with general anaesthesia. They'll be completely at rest. It'll be perfect for community members like this one, in whom the suspence of a new ROM has driven him to sniffing his Athena leather casing to much:rolleyes::

And when I wake them up some time next year, guess what:

AP 6.0 will have been released :p

It'll be like going to sleep on december 24th and waking up to a beautiful christmas moorning :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lakeman:
Groundhog day

I only hope its not like groundhog day!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] raskell:
ALERT - ROM flashing Junkies

Perhaps PK should consider pushing out a less extensive WM6.1 package with fewer enhancements and call it PK3.5 or something. That would give you ROM flashing junkies something to play with while AP4.0 runs it necessary course perfecting all of the hottest new apps ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
:(:(:(:(NO
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
Any news or date?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
I believe the 48-hours of testing aren't over yet. But if so... Please do release. ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
the prerelease date was few weeks ago.So i think it must be soon.today!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
I stays awefully quite... I would like to take it for a testdrive too. Seems ages ago people said 'not today'. Oke our fault to think 'well oke, tomorrow will do fine...' Nope, no ROM yet. :(
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
maybe they should make a final release date.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
:p no i think ap 7 actually
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Next you'll be telling Pawel062 not to flood the topic.....

Can't wait for V4 - will it be an open beta?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] boinger66:
nope as always we will release once its final =)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] beginner:
Extended ROM

Due the extended rom will be empty, should be possible to have it directly accesible for storage or programs installations?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] purrfect:
is there a way to get a totaly "empty" barebone rom with the essentials only and for us to install the rest later ?

please advise

mobile 6.1 stripped would work great

Thanks !
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Only issue I have is you're not too good at following instructions as initially requested ;-)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Actually, him hinting for donations is a reflection of how many trolls reside on the forums and some of the people that use the software accessed through this valuable forum. There are thousands of users but only a few carry the financial burden of such special projects. I had to put in my own money to finish things up. Do I mind nope....but come on people. Those of you who contributed, thank you. Those of you who didn't contribute...not even $1 but downloaded the ROM and tools...LOL, you're funny. I won't go back and look to see if you donated or not. You now where you stand. I just hope with the requests you're making, that you actually gave...even if it was $1...everything counts.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] dimisxxx:
A suggestion for the new rom..

I was just wondering if its possible to give to the rom as much RAM MEMORY as possible because this is the problem with a lot of roms in all the ppc phones...????????;);)​
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fards:
Sorry ltxda I find that post highly offensive. This is supposed to be an open forum, I don't think there's any problem with people asking for donations, but I do think the tone of that post is very wrong. If you think that people should be paying for things then you should establish a commercial business and do so.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pantaloonie:
I see you haven't donated anything to xda dev to help with the running of this 'valuable forum'. I donated to Oli many moons ago, and all I got in return (apart from an unlocked Ameo) was torrents of abuse from him.

I'm with Fards on this one, you want to make money, start a business.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lakeman:
ITXDA contributes more than his fair share to this forum

The whole point of this forum is people contributing their ideas and time.

If you want to purchase improvements for your device from Commercial Suppliers , fine , go and support their business.

I see no problem with ITXDA and others seeking donations to help with getting hardware to play with.

Not everybody has the means to get these devices and having keen people who want to improve/supply solutions for them is to every users advantage( pun intended)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yea i think that post wasn't his brightest idea. i think he ment though people are talking **** about donating yet they never donated themselves. i appoligize for ltxda's mistake because i see exactly what u mean. we dont want you pay for the rom but a donation wont be arrgued with. i spend my free time with others working on the roms and even a dollar is nice for all the hard work.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
he has donated plenty to the project. he pretty much got cmonex her athena because donations stoped at a certain point. ltxda has more money than most of u have btw so he doesnt need it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
thanx for the kind words. i never asked ever for donations for the rom only for the device to do the roms with. all cash since i have had my device i never have touched. they went to cmonex's device or ltxda getting bac abit of what he put into getting cmonex a device.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Nothing wrong with what you posted. I just had my two cents. I do have several commercial businesses, but I'm not here to make money. Trust me, I've given more than I've taken. Just don't jump on these poor young guys for hinting at donations when you use their stuff. Simple as that. As I could have ignored your post, you could have done the same. Again, it's an open forum right?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
This is something we're trying to do for sure. Great thinking bro. ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
FYI, I'm here helping and get nothing from it. The others get devices. I even donated some of my own money. And just because I don't have little stars by my name doesn't mean I haven't done what I need to do. You have no idea.

If this was a commercial project, only donators would be getting the ROM. People get offended because I called them out as cheap and reminded them of that. Open forum...open forum.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Thank you. I see you understand.

I'm not upset, etc. I ask nothing for myself and only am here to give. I'm one of the few fortunate that have more than ample financial resources...I know these guys and they don't. They are high school or college kids that are donating their time between classes and finals and going out with friends. The success of this project was because we were able to gather enough donations to get developers these expensive devices and get it moving. I myself already had a device and even donated over $400.00 of my own money to get the final device because donations staggered. Why...because I can. I like it here. So when I defend the guys providing these awesome ROMs it's because they deserve more respect. I mean, if we really wanted to, we could close the doors and provide the ROM to just contributors...but that's not what it's all about.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Project Update...Beta testing...

Internal beta testing starts tonight. We've got the ROM close. I think it's a great idea, as well, to get a stripped down Vanilla version then a fully loaded version. People can make their choices of which to go with. The final ROMs will be based on everyone's input and we're pushing for this baby to be the best and final ROM released by this group for the x7500. That said, we all know people do come out of retirement. :D

We'll just see how it goes.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Man, great list! We'll be doing some serious testing. WOW! :eek:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] vjsxda:
New vista dialer

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=367423
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
maybe i should release it april 1st :p i bet no one will expect that one :eek:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] automoveis:
You are very funny!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
I'd be happy if it were that soon. This thread was started on 9/2 - it's now 28/3, hmmmm.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] toastedlogic:
It's payday!

Pawel, as promised earlier in the thread... It's payday... Just a little thanks for all you guys' hard work.

$25.00 - confirmation no. 40J26824D5827040J
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
Dude I totally forgot, but hey as promised here ya go Team. A lil sum sum, now back to my other hardware mods as I await the s/w to go along with it ;).

Confirmation number: 5W4601260M341923E
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] auswims:
Unbelieveable

I spend a lot of time on the site but don't post much. I just appreciate what the team is doing and will be glad to have access to the ROM whenever it is released. Thanks for the work. It is somewhat amusing to witness the anxiety of others.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] wgary:
Another $25 to heighten the sense of obligation of not disappointing your paying fans -- 2XG17465SE143311X
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] toastedlogic:
LOL

LOL the ball's rolling now! ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] boinger66:
not possible because some of the simplest problems in the rom are the ones that are most difficult to solve.

We could release a broken rom but whats the point ?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] sergiopi:
The point is: we LOVE to play with roms, and may be most of us will love to play with a buggy ROM.

The point is WHY NOT!

Release it, call il BUGGY AP :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
I thoroughly agree!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] :
please, dont publish a buggy rom.

publish ONLY when the rom was estable !

B
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] kramerica2:
I'm going away for 3 weeks on Wednesday... I know now, that it would be without AP 4, and since I'll be away from a PC but with my Athena, I'm gonna see the ROM published and won't be able to do anything with it.

PLS POST ANYTHING YOU HAVE BY WEDNESDAY, CRAPPY, BUGGY, BT PROBLEMS, WHATEVER....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
By posting it as 'Beta' people can make up there own minds. People like bartito can wait until final release but there are lots of us who just wan't to play and don't mind beta testing or would just put up with the bugs until they are fixed.

Knowing there is a decent ROM out there, no matter how buggy, is exceedingly frustrating!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
I agree with sergiopi
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tomary:
give me 100$ and i'll release the anti-ap!

and if you guys donate me to buy a htc shift, i'll publish roms for shift!!!!

DONATE ME, GIVE ME YOUR MONEY
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] QAN:
Almost there!!!!!

see for post 26 in the "Anti-AP ROM Silver Edition WM6.1 beta coming soon..." Pawel062 says the rom will be posted teusday if it has only minor bugs or else by friday as a beta!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
correct. tuesday or friday.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
so one more week.thanks
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] francoke:
Maybe...?

Hi at all :

Maybe i don,t understand so good for ,tuesday or friday will be realeased a ROM with...SOME BUGS?.

Persionally i know and read all posts and too i,m to late wake up spending for AP 4.0 , but : TEAM i beliebe what so much or high % of members here , will be wait to the ROM has not any bug. We know about your hard works...you give live at our Advantages and Athenas

PLEASE dont release a ROM with some bugs...no matter so much tiome take clean..repair ...al this bugs . I,m waiting for... . ! . Pawell ...Itxda....Testers...cngratulations all hard and excellent Work...for....PLEASE dont release something with bugs ! . Your ROM is the life of my machine... i,m Use full to work! too for me..and my free time and it,s a proud to me carry on my advantage your rom ..actually PK 3.0.

Nothing so smarrt...was ever so simple !

FranCoke.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
If frightened by BETA's don't install if it's being released as a BETA on Friday. For all others feel free... :D (I'm going to istall on Friday)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eagle 1:
New Kaiser ATT (Test,RC) Base rom available

CE version: 3.14.502.1

OS build: Windows Mobile 6.1 AKU 1.0.2 Build 19209

Is the PK4 version newer? or would this be a good base to start with?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
well the 19209 is newer but first that build is on a qvga device. not all qvga builds play nice when ported to a vga device. also its a test rom so probably test build meaning it aint too stable. good news is from one of my testers who expirenced screen issues and bt issues. he said screen issues he believe are gone and bt seems to be ok also. we need a day or 2 more to test it properly and to get feedback from other testers. also need to fix some small things today and tomm. things are finally beginning to look good for a release.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eagle 1:
that sounds promising...thanks
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
i love tuesday and friday:D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] automoveis:
I love de Sunday! :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
I love today! Only day that always matters. ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] vicinc:
today, tomorrow never comes... anything is better than nothing.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
dont worry everyone. the future looks bright.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] mabury10:
Talking about daylight savings are you...? :rolleyes:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rorydaredkign:
lol at daylight saving... i was late for work because of it
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] grlayouts:
if i had any idea how to make a rom i'd have one done by now. :D

ps. got a shift yesterday and it sucks ass!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
lol..... maybe :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
yes but it would be loaded with bugs like any other first rom is :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] grlayouts:
i beg to differ.

where would one start?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
the wikis. some kitchens. get to reading. and also the first rom will always have bugs. everyone knows the first of anything aint perfect.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rvnteck:
Athena Project 4.0 Series (please do not post...coming soon...screenies in post 2)

People just dont know how to read, or just playing stupid

Athena Project 4.0 Series (please do not post...coming soon...screenies in post 2)

Athena Project 4.0 Series (please do not post...coming soon...screenies in post 2)

Athena Project 4.0 Series (please do not post...coming soon...screenies in post 2)

please do not post

please do not post

please do not post

Even a Kindergarden can read this and understand.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tootallk2000:
I totally agree, but wrong thread.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] rvnteck:
I prefer posting it here because atleast here it doesnt say "please do not post"

Athena Project 4.0 coming, but needs... us to be patient and maintain our saneness
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] ice_coffee:
Athena Project 4.0 coming, but needs... time to mature before being served.

Like the best things in life, you dont want to rush it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] sergiopi:
I agree, but at least one of the best things in my life needed some PERSONAL beta testing before.... , and also my girfriend said "...time to mature before being served", and I had many friends talking about too, but we choose some beta testing and we enjoyed it ! :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
its coming..... htc album still is loading slow :(
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
dont worry you will fix that;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
idk. i have 3 vga versions that i been trying. 2 are making no difference in loading. the last one i will test in a few min.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] marthynovak:
ok.give us a feedback.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] adult:
IMHO it is very good when we know small details about current status of AP4 development. It calms me. :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
looks like friday. htc album i fixed loading but now the pics wont come up. it closes up :eek: videos play back fine though and it goes into camera fine. also seems like weatherpanel makes the phone hang requiring a hard reset every time u soft reset. also wmwifirouter i believe ltxda said hangs.

still also waiting on config app from cmonex and the ok key to be mapped to send for manila dialer.

after that its just get cabs done, get everything together, and release.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] vicinc:
yeap, this is supposed to be developers site, so we can test stuff, there is no such a thing a perfect rom, I would prefere an open community where all of us cooperate in creating a better rom.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] THE GZS:
I've been trying your AP 3.0 ROM for a little over a week now; I also had to hard reset al the time because of the rom hanging and decided not to install snapvue anymore. I also thougt the weatherprogram was the coulprate

Don't get discouraged You guys rock
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
it would be kind of a mess if i released a new rom almost every day because im fixing issues with the current rom or have created a new one because of this or that reason. no one also would be able to keep up with the changes i make. every day im tweaking the 4.0 rom to make it better. best show of that is with album. i recieved a new version and now it loads fast but when u try to open pics it'll close up.

betas also have issues that prevent u from using the device. many people here need their device to work all the time so have no time to flash to the new versions. many people seem to agree that releasing stable versions is better than constantly releasing buggy versions.

also i dont have the new unlocker even if i did want to release :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] PBL1:
In a perfect world that is the ideal case, as it is around here

1-The Athena forun is messy, I do not mind messiness at all but for the general use there are a lot of things that could be done ( folder of apps that work with Athena , folder with roms and explanation of the differences, known issues....etc ..so perhaps you would like to collaborate by sorting the wiki a bit and keep it up to date?

2- If you release a rom with too many issues there is bound to be 90 pages of questions on the thread, 60 of those asking the same question that was answered before, 20 pages of idle chat, ten useful pages and 30 pages of rant by the usual suspects.... yea I know the total of pages add to more than 90, but then people logic never add up:).

If you want this place working the way that you refer in you post, firstly the people must be willing to read, the place has to be organized to a minimum

( by maintaining the wiki ), people have to want to do their bit and there has to be a seizable number of knowledgeable people working in the project

And that is the issue, the size of the community is not that big, should this device be as popular as the Hermes and you would see three roms to choose every two weeks, the number of people capable of developing and solving issues is very limited we all know who they are, and they deserve a life like everybody else and not the demands of crying babies, all their work is for the fun of it, otherwise there is no point.

If you are interested, Midged did put a kitchen together which is a easy good way to learn to **** rooms , sadly that thread is not very active, isn't it?

Just to clarify i am not ranting here, that is not the intention, it is just that it seem to my that people want the rom released early just to play with it ( the I have the latest syndrom) and not bother to get knowledgeable enough to provide a meaningful input other than this does not work, my Athena crass.....etc

and yea it will be people that follow the rules, install at your own risk and do not comply if hell get loose, but lots of people will eat the caramel as soon as is released with out bothering to read the label if you know what I mean.

Me, I am happily running Black Touch in my device with only a few issues with the bluetooth stack, and I hope that when AP4 is released will be a rom that I want to keep in my device, rather than a headache, and let the team work at their own pace, I am aware that even with the best possible rom are going to be problems anyway and will be time enough for playing and making my device to work as I want.

to the team, cheers guys (and gal) you doing a great job

Regards
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
great post. sums it all up very nicely. i'll see though if anyone from the team wants to maintain the wiki and do some of the stuff u mentioned. no promises though.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] PBL1:
Thanks Pawell

As I said I do not bother that much but it seem to be plenty of people using the cooperation excuse to push the release of the rom earlier, as I see it there are a lot of things that can be done here besides playing with the new rom and seem to forget that if you want to be part of a team you have to play ball:)