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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
"Overpriced" is a relative term. I NEVER read a report, official or buyer, that says the fruity brand are 'Overpriced'.

"Not a luxury brand"........? Is there one? I mean a real luxury brand not a brand like Porche that was made by HTC etc? Do you consider Lexus a luxury branded car? No car enthusiast alive would dare write that the Lexus brand is not a superbly built car yet Lexus don't sell? Why? Board room car park space snobbery. I am totally guilty of that snobbery myself. I own an inferior car quality built high class luxury brand in comparison to the Lexus, but its a Lexus not what mark I own....

Samsung mobiles now build some of the better micro engineered devices in the world. Not the case only 4 years ago. Plastic 'meta'l and plastic 'leather' with plastic 'moulded stitching' ....they where awful and that is when I changed to Sony. Sony had an all metal chassis and all glass back and front, water resistant, simply stunning to hold and feel. Made other brands look like toys made in Taiwan.

The R&D that goes into devices like the Note 8 is amazing and costs multi millions of dollars.

We all have a cut off price that we will not pass. Apparently you would buy at 750£ but not 830£. That is to be respected BUT I think it subjective to write that the Note 8 is "Overpriced". for what we are receiving I am baffled how Samsung can manage that reasonable price. Thank goodness its not developed and produced in Europe or the States! Then we would see triple that cost!

Please don't think for one second my bank account enjoy's such expenses it doesn't, 1,020.00€ is an awful lot of cash but for what I am hopefully getting its value for money to me. If it wasn't I would keep my SGS8+.

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bonerp:
I think you are probably in the minority if you think the note 8 isn't overpriced. But each to their own...

At £550 I think my FE is an absolute bargain on comparison but as I've said on this or another thread all the time folk pay, the more they will continue increasing the cost.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pcriz:
I think every phone is over priced personally, I mean its nice but it shouldnt cost as much as a laptop, even with half off.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Thank you for your reply.

Lets turn this on its head. What would you suggest is the correct price to charge for the Note 8 then write why and how you arrive at your suggestion.

As you correctly write so many say the Note 8, SGS8, SGS8+ are overpriced. That is an easy statement to say but qualify such a comment.

If we look at general pricing policy and the actual price consumers pay in an outlet I suggest we should question the cost of every purchase we make after all come sales time some items are as low as half price so one can imagine the outlets mark up profit margins. :eek:

Its all so relative. Literally over the years fruity brand owners have paid billions for their products. I used to be one of them. Why does said fruity brand still charge such prices and why do they still have such a massive world wide sales appeal with people sleeping in the streets days ahead of a given devices sale?

They don't complain? Are the fruity brands devices superior? I would strongly, vigorously argue they are not but still they have this massive following? I would go as far as to write the fruity brand could increase prices and still they would sell?!

Why not for other brands that have pushed the technological envelope much further as Samsung have done with this present Note 8. I suggest, given all parameters taken into account, the Note 8 is a decent purchase at 1,000€. Don't confuse that remark with I am suggesting its a cheap device, its certainly not.

The Note series fills a niche market and is certainly not for most mobile phone users, it was not designed to wear that hat, that honour passes to the SGS8 available for nearly half the price of a Note 8.

Ryland

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The answer to that is simple. Macro and micro engineering. A tower-desk PC is half the cost of its comparison lap top, why?

A mobile smart phone is again twice the price of a comparable lap top , Why?

Look into the R&D, production and engineering skills needed to produce each of these three devices and you would discover the mobile smart phones costs are huge in comparison to a PC and a lap top.

Would it surprise you to know that companies like Samsung are already researching the Galaxy 10 and 11, not next years 9 though that is still being finalised. It takes years of planning and the logistics of bringing hundreds of micro components together that work is no small feat of engineering and design foresight.

Like you I would also very much like to pay less. What am I saying, I can, I could purchase a mobile for 50.00€. :fingers-crossed:

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pcriz:
The company I work with purchases cell phones at cost from a few different carriers because we have long standing mobile contracts and I haven't seen Note 8 numbers but S8/+ and the Note 7 were just over three hundred dollars below MSRP for us. That said there is more to the MSRP than just an arbitrary amount they decided on because you have to factor in the price to advertise, R&D, logistics. They project number and figure out at a certain price how many units they need to sell to meet their profit margin. Thats why devices always get cheaper, other than just being older hardware. The other side is on top of all those factors they need a profit, not to just break even. So even buying at cost I would dare estimate the sum total of parts don't equal 500 bucks. But only valuing a device on that isn't exactly fair to the amount of engineering it took to get that device where it is.

So I say yes and no to the argument of it being over priced.

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Macro and micro engineering is a nice blanket statement to try and reason why we are where we are but the difference in cost of currently existing devices doesnt logically make up the difference. You pay the price you pay because you want to, the iPhone 7+ has a larger foot print than the Note 7 and arguably less in the way of hardware on the inside (wireless charging, s pen, headphone jack) yet costs more.

Comes down to what people will pay, we drive the prices up ourselves.. They know we value mobile phones more than laptops because laptops don't fit in our pockets.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Excellent post with excellent replies. :good: In terms of corporate selling it differs from general consumer sales. Corporations can often buy at prices that cause the manufacturer an actual loss BUT gains in other areas of business.

I would suggest your 500 bucks is more like 200-250-300 bucks in actual production costs BUT as you wisely continue to write its what has gone BEFORE the actual production even starts that costs a company a fortune.

Can we agree overpriced is not the same as expensive? I agree totally the Note 8 is expensive I sincerely think its not overpriced if we compare, in the widest sense, what we receive for the initial outlay.

Ahhh now in your second reply you are raising a sore point and one we both agree on, that being the price of the fruity brands goodies. I am not going to go there unless we absolutely must as its pages and also subjective not to mention political and all sorts of other reasons. Apple are on my black list and will be while they hold themselves above consumer law and tax laws in this country. I will poke the lion and write Apple are superb goodies. For me they are expensive and overpriced, there I dared to say it lol. I shall now get well and truly flamed. :crying:

I need to think more regarding your statement that we drive the prices up? Can't argue one way nor the other regarding that. I am sure there is some truth in that but its more complicated and perhaps partly due to trends.

Very nice to chat with you. :highfive:

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pcriz:
I'll be the first to admit I took the low hanging argument approach with simply saying they are over priced. I agree a better word is expensive. I also dont buy apple but I can appreciate the build quality of their devices and the simplicity of day to day activities (with some caveats like accessing settings for things like wifi and bluetooth) but I think they can at this point name their price and people will think they have to pay it because Apple is Apple. I mean look at twitter, owning android is an admission of poverty if you derived your opinion from memes.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Hi, Agreed the quality of Apple has always been top notch even down to the packaging. One felt 'special' when opening that package. Samsung, only 4 years ago, sold the S range in a brown box that looked like it held a toilet roll.

Its possible with the iPhone 8 that Apple has finally caught up with the rest of the industry in terms of screen and other engineering firsts? Lets see, its taken them long enough.

I am pleased to write that Samsung now package their goodies nicely also, took them long enough!

Regards,

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ekerbuddyeker:
This is turning into a decent discussion. My point is not so much the purchase price. I get that there are so many factors that go into that, but how fast they devalue, which really bothers me!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
There is a difference between price and value. I assess value not price.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jellyhead:
Exactly, if we luck out with root immediately as with the Note 7, then this phone is very valuable to me. I would have used the Note 7 for years if they wouldn't have disabled my IME. I said before these are not investments, if it's worth it to you buy it, if not then don't.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] intruda119:
Phones like cars are not an investment.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
The Note FE is now sold out. It'll be worth a lot in a few years. Please note value is not just about investment, it is about value creation. I’ve recorded many important ideas and diagrams with my Note devices. I’ve made productive use of potentially dead time by making notes and capturing plans etc.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bonerp:
so going back to the crux of this discussion, if they aren't overpriced, why do they devalue so quickly Don't forget there was a time (not too long ago) that Samsung thought making a good product with a flimsy plastic back cover was acceptable....the market didn't and maybe why its second hand values were low. Have they recovered? Smelly stuff sticks and sadly they just aren't seen as comparable quality to apple - certainly not until recently/note 7 days. However second hand values still remain low in comparison to initial cost. In my book whether this means they are overpriced or expensive is irrelevant. No doubt I will buy an 8 but not on day one and maybe not at all.

I don't believe Samsung listens to its customers (fingerprint sensor location from the S8) or IMHO the length. Many don't like the curve screen yet they force it upon us. Its not choice, its not value for money. But we still buy it cos its shiny and new. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
Do we need a Note8 or do we want one?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] nickg636:
Hello has anybody started or has done rooting and have twrp for the galaxy s8 unlocked snapdragon version?

thanks so much
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] partcyborg:
Unless you have one from hong Kong (you don't), it's not possible. Bootloader is locked.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] peachpuff:
Root yes, twrp no.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] jhofseth:
It's really a shame that Qualcomm's secure boot actually lives up to its name in Qualcomm's latest bootloaders! That's the US Snapdragon S8/S8+ problem. All the international S8/S8+ people get to enjoy their TWRP and custom kernels, etc., but not the US.... Such a shame. :) https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s8/help/carrier-to-samsung-publish-bootloader-t3667125
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] daniel4653:
I still remember when it was the other way around. SD was the way to go an Exynos was locked down, at least from what I remember. S2 & S3.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] nikexv2:
International s3 was exynos and unlocked
[Mate 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marriee chan:
hi guys im new here and looking for help with my mate 8, and i downloaded a nougat firmaware b560 and nothing happens please help me:crying:
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] Olvers974:
Hello,

Hello everybody

How are you ?!

Great community, i love this forum for the ROM & Kernel ^^

Seriously,

I've got serious problem !!!

App via playstore, has erased my phone, and not my SD CARD ....

I flash via ODIN a officially firmware, i haven't error message.

Problem boot, and this message on the recovery : EFS E: FAILED TO MOUNT /EFS (INVALID ARGUMENT)

I want to make the factory binary

for unlock OEM and install the TWRP for my problem, but it's doesn't works, loading, but no boot ...

Sorry for my mistakes, i'm French ^^

My problem :

https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.p...873IMG0471.jpg

My recovery :

https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.p...865IMG0466.jpg

My opening factory binary :

https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.p...437IMG0468.jpg

he boot on the loading factory, but doesn't boot on the system.

And my message on the reboot :

https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.p...888IMG0463.jpg

Cordially,

Olvers974
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers] vaibhav tyagi99:
sm-950f efs (invalid agrument)

sir,

i've got the same problem as you do/did ... if u got the solution yet please tell me,

i've installed twrp but still can't mount efs partitian, my system status says custom

cant restore from anywhere. please help

my email:- vaibhavtyagi9999@gmail.com
[X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madalavikas:
Does any one have cm 13 snapshot or any stable marshmallow roms saved in their drives for our moto x play......if saved plsss give the links..........thanks in advance
[X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] le_zurdo:
This is the unofficial final build released by squid

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zgdfg4984m17bbq/cm-13.0-20161209-UNOFFICIAL-lux.zip

He has a list of previous builds. But probably they are pretty outdated

https://gist.github.com/sultanqasim/b8f047f340406fe90df7
[X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] portox:
latest cm13 snapshot:

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120696340
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Frankie_Xenon:
I've been wanting to root my U.S. model Galaxy S7 for a while now. Finally after a year, the Cf-Root comes out for the SM-G930U variant of the GS7. But I've heard that rooting this variant of the S7 will cause many performance and feature hindrances.

Is this true?

Is this the official s7 sm g930u snapdragon root?

https://download.chainfire.eu/1044/...F-Auto-Root-heroqlteue-heroqlteue-smg930u.zip
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] pr1jker:
Did you read about what "rooted" means? If so, you know all benefits and risks. If not, read about it

Sent from this galaxy
[LeEco Le 2 Questions & Answers] Abhimayekar22:
So I was trying to factory reset my Le 2 x52(Indian Variant) and it asked me for Le account details to unbind phone before resetting,but even if I enter the right info it shows server error

Is there anyway to bypass this and remove my le account permanently ? ( Since Le Eco is a dead company)
[LeEco Le 2 Questions & Answers] ajdoj:
LeEco Le 2 How To Unlock FRP Lock Android 6.0.1

If you are looking for this i can send u video of it or u can search in YouTube putting that name from...and check the name of video uploader karan verma..if u get that..give a try..
[LeEco Le 2 Questions & Answers] :
Did you try hard reset?
[LeEco Le 2 Questions & Answers] lloyd.lemoncito:
Hi sir! Is there a fix for this already? Mine is stucked on Leeco account log in after hard reset
[LeEco Le 2 Questions & Answers] songistas:
Hi, my wife got an update from on her LeEco Le2 (X620) this week. Afcourse she made it and after that Google Play service has stopped working. So I decided to remove it and install new one - did`t helped, so afterwards I made a hard-reset. And now there is a START-UP thing and there I have to login to LeEco account to boot the phone, but the server is not responding.

In short - I have the same problem like the OP. Anyone has any idea how to by pass it?

Also, I have an old update (5.8) and I would like to put it into device, but the thing is that my PC recognizes the phone, but its drive does not appear, thus I can`t upload the 5.8 version into device. Any ideas how to get shown the DRIVE of the phone on PC?
[LeEco Le 2 Questions & Answers] RafaelMelo1:
Holding the Power + Button up. More does not carry the TWRP.

Hi, how are you? Good morning.

I need help installing TWRP, on my leeco le s3, x626.

I already have a Le max 2, unlocked and with TWRP installed by me, through the tutorials of Yourtube.

But this time, it is not working.

I did the whole process.

Several times, UP TO BRICKEI 2 TIMES on the device, and I came back with the rom stock.

With ADB open, with administrator permission

I already gave the command

Quick boot unlock.

And confirmed that it was unlocked.

More now when you ADB, with the command,

without fast recovery from fast flash twrp.img

Do a count and say that's right.

But when, pressing and holding the Power + Button up a screen does not boot and it restarts, it vibrates normally ....

logo logo below RECOVERY.

More does not carry the TWRP.

What I'm doing wrong.

Note I already tried to change the version - TWRP 3.0, TWRP 3.1, TWRP 3.2.

Nothing happens without default back to Recovery

Help me, it must be such a detail that I'm missing out.

Thank you very much for being able to help me.

And if anyone needs to unbrick a cell phone can talk to me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S8+ Themes, Apps, and Mods] Mirko ddd:
I' m gonna attach an apk here, but the application should only work for the above languages, and use it in languages other than those indicated may lead to errors.

So if you speak a supported language you can download the app from Google Play by clicking the badge
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S8+ Themes, Apps, and Mods] hqa18:
Gracias la.probare en un galaxy s8 Active
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] OooH-Boy:
Hi, I got one Treo At&t 750 English and I need to change it to spanish any help pls what can I do tks for your help...
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] marleyb:
find a spanish rom like http://palmone.r3h.net/downloads.palm.com/Treo750_2_23_ROW_ES_DesktopUpdater.zip

extract cheeimg_fw.nbh from archive (winrar), rename to cheeimg.nbh and use sd method for upgrading/flashing

enjoy
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] OooH-Boy:
Hi, can u explait more cos I unziped the file Treo750_2_23_ROW_ES_DesktopUpdater I dont find the file u told about it..pls

tks
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] OooH-Boy:
Hi, I did it..tks for your help...tks
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epicbombz:
hello everyone i need huge help over here cuz i tried to flash stock firmware:0P6BIMG.zip file and it said that the file failed because large image

it sent me back to the proccess again i removed my sd card and my sim tried to restart the phone again as i dont even have any rom installed nor recovery when i removed the sd card and sim it didnt go into the loop but it wouldnt let me choose anything from the bootloader mode and my phone isnt recognized on the computer.... please help people.my cid numb is j_15
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
The large image error, is due to trying to flash an RUU zip with the wrong version fastboot. You have to use htc_fastboot.exe, as the "generic" fastboot can't handle the file size (about 1.5 GB).

Also, it's not clear you even have the right RUU for your CID, for your post here: https://xdaforums.com/htc-one-m8/help/finding-ruu-t3283633/post73649551#post73649551

As already requested by ckpv5, you need to provide the getvar details (delete IMEI and serial number before posting), for us to be able to help you further.

Also what file name or version number RUU you are trying to use.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] bodomfan:
My s7 edge is suffering extreme battery drain all of a sudden gone from 100 to 82 percent in just over an hour and ive barely used the phone at all,should I factory reset I'm on stock nougat latest security update
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] kshitij84:
Have you tried running device maintenance
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] bodomfan:
Is that in device settings if so yes
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] kshitij84:
Try doing it on regular basis and see if it changes
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] bodomfan:
Will do
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] RileyIssKing:
It could be your physical battery breaking down. Have you seen if any apps are the culprit?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] AveHakob:
I think this is some massive issue. Many people have the same problem including me. Before the Nougat update my phone battery could live for 2 days, now I have to charge it at least once a day (sometimes twice). Tried to reset the phone couple of times. Nothing helps.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] waqar874:
hello everybody!!!

i have s edge plus and i have rooted it..... i have checked it with many apps and all authenticate that it is rooted now i want to edit files in root but i cannot edit.... i have installed root explorer and using it i make root rewritable but still it does not edit..... it doesnot even open the wpa supplicant file where u can see the passwords of wifi networks..... m stuck somebody plz help me.....
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] bretrick30:
Has anyone been able to start a return with support?

I have called the number they gave to use for returning but it only lets you leave a message. I have left a message on Friday and have not heard anything back. I have tried submitting a chat requesting to return the device, and I have emailed them.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] eakrish:
You went back to your galaxy S8?
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] gharris040604:
Same no response
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] worldsoutro:
I tried on Thursday and Friday.... No response
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] IM0001:
It's a holiday weekend. Try again Tuesday.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] -Michael_:
Seriously, holiday weekend.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] &roid:
Doesn't matter. I've been receiving no responses for over a week trying to cancel the damn thing even since before it shipped to me. I still don't have it (in transit) and I still don't want it after all the games they've been playing. You can try to call to and you'll only be greeted by a robot that takes a voice message they don't return. I've never (even dealing with generics) have received service this poor...actually let me correct that, I haven't received any service - so I guess I can't call it poor, but it's non-existent. Not sure how anyone is going to get these back in 15 days when it might take longer than that to reach someone. CC chargeback is the way to go.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] tech_head:
It's a holiday weekend...
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] worldsoutro:
There should be some form of cs available over the holiday weekend. They just released a phone
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] ZooBaAr:
Yes it is a holiday weekend but they have touted 247 support well pacific time and I quote :

" Call 888-444-2222. Our Customer Support coverage is 5am-9pm Pacific, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. "

I called 3 EST and got loop answer saying " higher than expected call volume ( lol) please email and we are getting through the backlog "

Maybe I should just be patient but everything just says GTFO.

*heavysigh*

Zo0