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[Galaxy Note 4 General] lisbon2004:
I'm extremely disappointed with Note 8.

Curved edges (without any alternative) mean that the screen will be much more fragile, and will give you glares on the edges. It is both more fragile AND more expensive to replace than flat screens (we've seen that since S7 edge). If that's not enough, the back is now not durable, it's made of glass and you can break it too.

For me personally, one of the biggest NOs of Note 8 is its heavy weight: 200 grams is much more than already too heavy 167 grams of Note 4. About 3 years ago i have changed Galaxy S3 (100 grams) to Note 4 (176 grams) and the change was drastic... It hurts to talk half an hour or more on Note 4, and in general it's too heavy. I sense its weight all the time, every day, and every day wish it were lighter.

The battery is not removable, and it's real PITA. In my Note 4 a battery fully lasts only 1 year, then starts degrade like crazy (overheating during charge; phone turns off at 5, then 10, then 30% etc). I have got my 3rd battery already! With Note 4, maybe would be able to replace it via service center, but it will be more time consuming, more expensive, you will get your device disassembled so it will no longer be like new (lots of glued parts inside), and you will have to trust all your confidential or sensitive data to be given to the service center with your phone.

Why only QuickCHarge 2 is supported (like in Note 4), why not at least QuickCharge 3??

Where are real innovations? Like no bezels screen (Xiaomi Mi Mix 2, or Sharp Aquos Crystal 2), or stereo speakers (last years' ZTE Axon 7)???

This phone costs 500€ or less. 500€ is an absolute maximum one should pay for note 8 at the start of the sales (assuming all the abovementioned minuses), and then the price should drop. I would probably pay no more than 300€, as curved screen and non-removable battery just impose so much programmed obsolesce, that i refuse to invest more.

Realistically, i'm still on Note 4 with a refreshed battery, with an optimized rooted rom and efficient kernel (android 4.4.4), everything flies, and i do not upgrade as i have seen too many negative complaints about 5.x and 6.x ROMS. The device is fast and fits my needs (except being too heavy), however I really want a new, faster device with more modern OS, preferably Android O.

In the short term, if an Android O ROM will become available for N910F, i'll give it a go.

In the long term, i guess i will be migrating to a reasonably price edgeless device (must be QHD Amoled, preferable 6.2-6.3), very likely Xiaomi Mi Mix 2.

Samsung just leaves no other options, it does ignore its customers' needs.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] NamelessFragger:
I'm begrudgingly moving to the Note 8 because I have no other penabled smartphone options on the market; this is a niche Samsung has all to itself until someone dares to compete.

Normally, I'd keep the Note 4 still, but I'm in a bit of an unusual predicament: an unofficially SIM-unlocked Sprint N910P variant on T-Mobile since the end of January, largely because we all know what happened to the Note 7 and I didn't want to chance buying another Note 4 with all this talk of eMMC failures. Lately, I can't even get 3G on T-Mo for some reason despite it having worked before (4G never worked because Sprint locked out the bands on their variant), and my call quality's turned to crap.

In short, my hand was forced due to a carrier switch resulting in subpar network performance on my current phone, and had my family heeded my advice two years ago, we would've switched that much sooner.

At least Samsung will take $200 off for trading in an old S5 in working order, and we've got a pair of Sprint S5s not doing much anyway since the switch. That makes the cost of the Note 8 a bit easier to stomach, alongside the pre-order promo... but only a bit. (Ironically, they wouldn't take Note 4s for trade-in, but there's no way in hell I'm giving up mine like that anyway. I like having an IR blaster for those things I didn't get remotes with!)

As a bonus, I won't have to deal with any carrier branding BS this time. If there's an unlocked variant that costs as much as all the major carrier-locked variants anyway, sometimes even a bit less, why the heck would anyone NOT get the SIM-unlocked version? (Bootloader unlocking is probably a pipe dream for North American models now, though. Thanks a lot, Samsung... if not for import models being even more expensive for a litany of reasons, I would've gone that route.)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ubigred:
Note 8 will be faster
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lektrik-7:
And? Price justified? I think no!

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] ubigred:
Relax. Calm down
[Galaxy Note 4 General] farhaanwireless:
I have a note 4 910c model, i love this phone. I havnt rooted it as yet. Hopefully there will be a note 8 rom soon.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lektrik-7:
Lol. That the problem with messaging. I'm relax. :)

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] kradcliffe:
I'm still on the original Note 4 and also have a brand new spare one that I have never had to use. That may be going on eBay!

Think I'm gonna wait until my upgrade is due in December to see how this pans out. Not too sure about the lack of capacitive buttons but the dual 12mp camera is a biggie for me. Hopefully a working root will be in place to disable Bixby and all the other Samsung crap.

Found out today I have a permanent 25% discount with Vodafone UK so £45 a month is acceptable.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Samsura:
No. Note 8 has the same hardware as the Oneplus 5, but has bloatware OS instead of "stock" android.

So it will be slower.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Melissakis:
Unfortunately, I won't go for a Note 8. The Notes are all about taking notes, and N8 is too narrow for note keeping. It also has edge, which further reduces writing space and it is too tall, I don't like the screen ratio. If I had to buy a new phone today, I'd pick the great LG G6. And when my N4 dies, I will probably go for a LG V30, I loved that phone. As for note keeping, which is essential to me, I'll take my chances with an aftermarket top-of-the-line stylus, from Adonit maybe.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabolander:
My beloved Note4 suddenly died on 14th august, and I moved to Huawei P10. Yes, I'm actually missing a bit the s-pen, the bigger size of device, and the color picture quality of Note4 (even if P10 is entitled and sponsored for photography, Note4 could make even much better than P10 ...), I'm really happy with this device now, for smoothness and performances... Anyway I shouldn't never spend ~1000€ for a smartphone as far as I'm not totally insane LOL.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zexmunze:
Im on iphone 7 plus now, earlier I can't imagine myself using iOS.

Now I'm used to.

Now I'm selling note 4 and getting some "android" replacement.

As for note 8, personally I held device in my hand. Build quality is not close to n4 on my opinion. Can't get used too that tall screen. It has no weight and that feel in hand. 1000 is way 2 much for phone like this since they don't hold price much long.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] skabeng:
Nope, no N8 for me. Don't like curved edge screens. I also think the screen is too long, my N4 already doesn't fit in my pocket comfortably. And the price... :(

When my N4 dies, my next phone will probably be a midrange Moto or Nokia with close to stock android. Will miss the s-pen though. Love that!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] asia559571:
S8+ has virtually all the features of the Note minus the SPen and the price, I would go for the S8+ but I'm more than happy with my Note 4 since I installed the Nemisis Refined so I'm sticking with my Note 4 ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bat0nas:
Held Note 8 in my hands.

1) too light. I barely felt it. Maybe with leather back case for bank cards it will be heavier.

2) too narrow. Compared it to Note 4 and i like wider screen of the Note 4. But.. It's a new trend of the long narrow screens. Gotta accept.

3) looks and feels very much like S8.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Moniclock:
I will not buy the Note 8 too...

Who use a Nougat Rom?

Work it well on our Device?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vinumsv:
But made the switch to Note 8 , i still love my Note 4 and planning to keep it :D

when i bought Note 4 i paid around 900$ in India so paying another 30$ more is not big jump from me :D as gadget freak i like to change to latest tech every 3/4 yrs
[Galaxy Note 4 General] LongDono:
1) It actually weighs 19 g more than the Note 4

2) It's only 3.8 mm (1/8") narrower

3) That's not a bad thing

The one next year might be completely different, if you're into fold-able screens, but I bet that will be even more expensive. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Emilypip:
Loving it!

I just got my note 4 today from someone i already loving it!!! the games is so smooth and the colors on the screen during the game is more beautiful than any other device i had! i hope it will get support for the next 2 year at least
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Beaverhauzen:
I was planning at first to buy the Note 8 but after knowing the price and the specs, I instantly changed my mind. For that expensive price I was hoping to get a better camera (both front and rear) that can really take a nice night shot (just like Oppo f3), a BIGGER battery and much more better specs. I'll probably wait for the Note 10, I'm sure there will be something special on the Note 10.

And personally I didn't like the design on Note 8, sharp edges of the phone made it look "too long" unlike the S8 plus that has curved edges so it looked much more balanced. So yeah, I will wait for Note 10 (hoping i could resist note 9 :D) and will just wait for a Note 8 Port for Note 4 :)

I really want to get my hands on the live message and edge light feature lol.:p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iceepyon:
I don't know why the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 is so expensive in the US. I have seen it sell for a much lower price in Hong Kong and parts of the EU. It's crazy how much Samsung is charging the US market for the Note 8.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Bruce lee roy:
I think iPhone's priceis largely to blame for that.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Beaverhauzen:
to think that Samsung is also earning big time from Iphones :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iceepyon:
Could be. Personally, I think that this maybe related to the US Cell Providers.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] r33fd:
I think note 8 is the perfect phone except for 2 things :

1 Obviously the price is INSANE !!!

2 The speaker is absolute trash . I tried it next to my note 4 and couldn't believe how bad it sounded .
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Melissakis:
My Note 4 is still great, and after flashing Nemesis rom 3.8 is better than ever. But things move forward, so I make plans for its successor. My main problem with Note 8 is that it's too long. Note 4 is already big for me, and Note 8 is almost 1 cm longer, that's too much for me. And V30's sound (important for me) is no match for N8's inferior sound performance.

On the other hand, V30 is still not available in Europe , doesn't have a stylus (which I heavily use ), there are concerns about its screen performance and N8 is getting cheaper and cheaper by the day. Very difficult decision.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] r33fd:
Honestly, if samsung would make a note 4 variant with the newest SoC , slightly better camera, S pen and fingerprint reader it would sell like hot cakes !

I have no idea why they went down that road , losing a lot of hardcore fans in the process .

That said, the closest thing to a good old school phablet is Mate 10/9 lineup. Will probably get one of those when Note 4 doesn't cut it anymore . Only thing missing would be S pen , which is too bad cause S pen is fantastic for students .
[Galaxy Note 4 General] slawekj74:
In my opinion N8 is the best phone ever in the highest price ever :/

but

what do you think about N7FE? Maybe its a good solution for 1-2 years?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] linomaniac:
n8

Hi all, the Note8 is really great phone. It is a huge jump up. You will never step down to N4 when you try it. :p

But i keep my beloved N4 forever in the drawer.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iceepyon:
Seeing as the Note FE is a re-release of the Note 7. You should get 2 years major OS updates via OTA. However the hardware used in the Note FE will probably out last the OS updates.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bat0nas:
Personally my concerns about Note 4 are:

1) poor battery life

2) newer phones have a little bit better camera for low light shots and way better front camera

3) fingerprint scanner in Note 4 is totally useless in my case

Note 8 (or basically any flagship: iphone 8, s8, p11 etc.) doesn't suffer from the above.

I bet everybody else has the same problems :D (battery, fingerprint etc.)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lisbon2004:
the best phone EVER cannot be extremely fragile and WITHOUT removable battery!

also there are complaints of Note 8 users that its loudspeaker quality is mediocre, MUCH worse than in Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Magnesus:
The battery problems with Note 4 are exactly why I still use it. I have already replaced battery once and it is dying on me again - but I can replace it very easily and for cheap. If a similar thing were to happen on Note 8...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Omegared37:
Hum....synthetizing why I shall keep my Note 4?

I totally agree with you. I got robbed a few months ago. Guess what? Bought another Note 4. The Note 5 has some drawbacks, like the hard-to-replace battery(and the certain loss of IP68 wáter resistance), and the lack of a MicroSD slot. Note 7? The Fan Edition is nowhere to be found in my country; besies, it is even more costful than Note 5. Note 8? Way too expensive for the features it offers. And the S-Pen feature is a killer for me! The ability to take notes te same way as with a real pen and paper?That has...kind of.."enamour-ed" me. No matter how cool, fast or productive other smartphones do, I have stuck with Galaxy Notes (the first, then the Note 2, then the Note 4)since 2012. In fact, I almost bought the Galaxy Tab A...but it dosn't fit in any pockets. Granted, the Note 8 really, really tops the list of phones I'd buy. Yes, of course there are incredible phones out there, but having no integrated pen is enough reason for me to stay away from them. And I, unsurprisingly, installed a custom ROM, because warranty go to hell!

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Well, only solution for me is to use a modified ROM and kernel. Or a brick-sized battery...That works well for me(first solution of course):)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lovekeiiy:
The way I use my phone, the battery doesn't even last eighteen months. Not upgrading. Plus, the phone is still doing what I want and need. Sure it's not as zippy as the new phones. I'll use this phone till it either dies or there is a phone with a removable battery (not likely to happen), microSD card slot, and at least 5.7" screen.

If I had to get a new phone, I would probably go with a LG V20; not a fan of the second screen. Although, I do like Note 8 Plus; the one with the 6.3" screen.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] chtom:
Hi,

My phone : Redme Note 4 Global Edition 3/32 unlocked and rom developper.

My problem : I wanted to put TWRP and I did a MEGA bull****.

To install TWRP I did:

Fastboot flash boot recovery.img

instead of :

Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

My phone starts systematically on TWRP... (It boots no more normally)

I have shot tempted one:

Fastboot flash boot boot.img

With the boot.img retrieved from the MIUI 9 archive 7.8.10 (mido_global_images_7.8.10_20170810.0000.00_7.0_global_239182c21e.tgz)

Now the phone shows me the logo miui indefinitely.

I still have access to Fastboot

Is it necessary to try with the boot.img of version MIUI 9 7.8.18 (installed version)? Can someone provide it to me?

If not, can anyone help me restore the boot without losing any facilities made?

Thank you in advance.

Regards
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] chtom:
Hi,

Well I finally made a MiFlash with the option "flash_all_except_storage.bat" on the same flashboot ROM that was previously installed in my phone before my error. (MIUI 9 7.8.18).

The phone is OK.

I did not clean it : I hope it will not bug.

Regards.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers] edi194:
When you've flashed TWRP when MIUI is installed you need to install lazyflasher with recovery. Without it MIUI will not boot with TWRP
[Huawei Mediapad M3 Questions & Answers] Gaanafet:
Just updated to the latest version and when I turn on the on screen buttons the physical one gets disabled. In the previous version I could use both ones. Know a solution?
[Huawei Mediapad M3 Questions & Answers] ncguy68:
I also miss having both. I prefer on screen navigation, but the physical button came in very handy when certain apps hide the navigation bar.
[X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lebinma:
Hey guys, please be kind enough to provide me the modem files that works in India on Nougat. I need the VoLTE support.:crying:
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] projectgtr:
Hi guys i updated my pixel yesterday to Oreo and since then im having an issue with the message notifications on the ambient display. Before the update if i got say a whatsapp when the ambient display was activated i could see my message in black and white (a black and white version of my lock screen notifications) now i simply get an icon of the whatsapp logo and i have to open to the lock screen.

Is this something that was removed in Oreo or is it something i need to enable to get it back?

I have just changed to a pixel from a near 4 year old Nexus 5 and the ambient display was a feature i was really using a lot

Any help would be appreciated, i hope this hasnt been covered before i tried the search but found nothing.
[Google Pixel Questions & Answers] Sgace:
Nope, this is how it is in Oreo:(
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] flipper44:
If nobody has, has anyone heard a timeframe?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] emilioaponte:
Not yet, since Monday and today is Thursday, four days ago 8.0 came out. My Pixel XL came out last year with Nougat so this is the first big Platform Upgrade. I'm trying to remember if my former Nexus 5 took so many days to get a Platform Upgrade.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] ahent:
My understanding from a few articles is that Google is rolling it out and anybody not in the beta program will get it "soon." I have a play store version using a Verizon SIM and I have it check under system update periodically and haven't had it pushed to my phone yet.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] speedingcheetah:
They haven't even posted the actual OTA files yet. Most likely cause they(the public OTA release) are not finalized until after the release to beta users to catch any final issues....as they pulled the one they pushed it at first...then resent(signature issues). Quite a few users reporting O issues....so I would say it will be at best a week or 2 before Google works out the bugs and does public OTA.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jerryhou85:
Not from non-beta OTA, later I joined the beta, and it came. :)
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
Nope I check daily and nothing
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Same here man. I'm not expecting it until I see some images posted. And that might be 8.0.1 at this point. Multiple problems out there. No rush whatsoever for me.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] MeltdownSpectre:
No OTAs here either, I flashed up from the 7.1.2 August build to the new OPR6 build.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Sakete:
Nothing here either. And like others said, there appear to be some issues with the current release, so I'm in no hurry to upgrade to 8.0. Let them iron out those initial bugs first before they push it to the general public.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] makapav:
I am on the Pixel XL and Nexus 6P with DP4 on both. I received one single ~59MB and ~36MB OTA file on each.

I thought that was really small since all the DP OTAs were ~1GB and so expected a similar size for the stable OTA. Can you share your OTA experience? What was the size and did you receive two files (small+big) as some others are reporting online?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] fatapia:
mine was about 60 some mb, I got the OTA before it was pulled the first time and everything went smoothly for me. after reading other's experiences I'm wondering why mine worked.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jerryhou85:
I was on 7.1.2 and when I was checking system update, it only showed "system is up to date". And then I joined the Android Beta Program and I received a notification that Android O was ready to download, size about 950MB.

Then it proceeds like any other OTA. I didn't get any second package yet.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] makapav:
In your case - you joined the Beta program after Oreo was released - so it makes sense that the OTA to final would be 900MB. Thanks for your response!

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OK so I guess the DP4 to final Android Oreo OTA is ~60MB. Thanks man! I will let other people in parallel forums know about it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] lewwill:
Pixel XL from Google Store/on VZ network (off contract). I was not on the DP but sources advised to sign up, get the OTA, and then unenroll. I did that yesterday and am now on OPR6.170523.012 which is stable and I understand the final. Working fine.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] makapav:
On the T-Mobile SIM Pixel XL, from DP4 my current build number is: OPR6.170623.011

Google needs to get its sh*t together and start to clearly communicate what's going on and where we stand.

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Got the facts from the Pixel forum here.

If you're on the DP4 Android O, it is considered the final Release Candidate so only the smaller OTA is delivered to bring you in line with the stable release of Android Oreo.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
I see that that is a way to basically force the OTA to 8.0, but I'm still uncomfortable doing that without any system or OTA images available on the google site. There must be a reason no images have been posted for any carrier. So I'll sit it out for now and I do believe you will get an updated OTA once the images are released. Even though Oreo is "official" I still thinks it's just a later beta with all the issues they're having.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jerryhou85:
Correct, I have encountered some issues after beta-OTA process, like "Automatic Time Zone" always wrong and hidden wifi not connecting...

I plan to do a factory image flash, if issues persistent, I'll downgrade to 7.1.2 and wait for the real OTA... :cool:
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] wbarnes4393:
This is where I am - now. I never normally do the beta stuff, but this time after Monday's announcement, I got excited and believed all the stories about how you could join the beta, just to get the OTA to the "final" release of 8.0 (I was stock, un-rooted, 7.1.2 on T-Mo). I did it, and it worked just as expected. I was first thrown by the naming convention for the build (OPR......., instead of just "OZKL4T" or something--I realize now that might be how they are named from now on). I have also since seen that there is still carrier testing to be conducted, plus other issues. Also, if it's "final", why aren't the images and OTA files here yet - https://developers.google.com/android/images ?? Being cautious, I decided to reflash the latest 7.1.2 image, and wait patiently for the "real" OTA. Not interested in beta testing (any more than we already do by being Nexus/Pixel stock owners). Happy for everyone that is running this latest build, but I'm only interested in the rock-solid, absolutely final images. Those are not here yet, in the form in which they have always come previously (and will almost certainly come again shortly).
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] epsix:
Uh....I'm still on November 7.1.1, was about to upgrade August release but waited for the official O release from Google.lol