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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] nahguam:
Yea, I started my T-mobile contract in Nov '06 and at first didn't even question the wnw usage as a modem, I just assumed I could... Just before ordering while doing a bit more research I found that fair usage link so went for the wnw+ instead, only 2.50 more pm (at the time).

In fact, I'm sat in a Hotel room in East Kilbride using internet sharing on my Hermes, right now, as I type this on my laptop :) I didn't have to ask T-Mobile to enable HSDPA either, it was enabled by default. I consistently get ~60KB/s download speed, almost broadband-like :)

To specifically answer the original question, officially I would say you CAN use wnw standard to enable Windows Live to sync your hotmail but you cannot use Windows Live Messenger. Unofficually, I doubt T-Mobile would do anything if you did... If I were you go for the WnW standard if you don't think you'll want to use the internet sharing and if T-Mobile send you a warning about using Messenger then just upgrade to plus... no bother.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] christopherwoods:
I'm on WnW basic.

The only thing that's blocked is FTP, which is easily worked around by just using my own (private) proxy server to route through. Everything else has always worked, including email and WLM.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ekerbuddyeker:
So its there, in the Samsung Experience. I have had every Note, now with s8 plus and i was STILL taken aback at how big it is. its fast though. Camera is nice and the new 'live' is a lot like the Mate 9 (which I think implements it better).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] winol:
I really want to lay my hands on one!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] calming:
Best Buy in Detroit
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kevinj14:
Does it feel that much bigger than the s8 + bro? And how does it feel in hand compared to the s8 +?

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ekerbuddyeker:
it does feel bigger than s8 plus as its squarer. but that will mean less reflectivity than s8 plus. I RECKON IT WILL LOOK HUGE NEXT TO V30, IPHONE 8, MATE 10, PIXEL XL ALL WHICH WILL BE S8 SIZED.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Y2Dre:
I'm in the Metro Detroit area...which Best Buy?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] calming:
Roseville
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Y2Dre:
Thanks a lot. You've just given me a reason to get out of bed! [emoji23][emoji23]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] calming:
Ha... Glad to help
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jah:
I have a Note8 back cover and Note FE. The Note8 is about the same size as the Note FE when in a back cover. Not a massive increase over the Note 7/FE.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] nobrakes:
I played with one at best buy yesterday it didn't feel big to me. It felt smaller than I thought. Maybe because it's narrow
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] borijess:
Best Buy
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kawaisa:
Probably similar to the S8+? I was expecting it to be huge in the hand before I bought the S8+ but it's not what you would expect since it's narrow.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] kangi26:
Had my hands on one today at the Best Buy near SouthCenter Mall in Tukwilla, WA. Awesome device, feels MUCH better than the S7E

Edit: Its back in the Samsung area, not in the branded phone areas
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] toenail_flicker:
thank you so much. I went to my BB and none. I'll try there next.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] RedsonRising:
I compared the note 8 to my note 4 in my UAG case and they were close in size. I was pleasantly surprised.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mr.Ash.Man:
My Ringke Fusion Note 8 case came yesterday so i decided to jam my note 5 in there to compare lol..

as you can see it's in there but it is a bit warped so the note 8 will be slightly less wide than the note 5 but quite a bit taller

I also put my S7 Edge in there too and there was plenty of room, enough for it to rattle side to side when shook
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] foulmouthedruffian:
Stopped by Best Buy earlier today to check out the Note8. It looks so tall and dumb in photos, but in person it looks fantastic. After using the N8 for a few minutes, my Note5 feels like garbage. xD
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] cpufrost:
Had it in hand yesterday. I don't see why people are complaining about a camera hump! If you want to see a big camera hump check out the iphone!

The camera seemed very fluid and processed pictures nearly instantly.

This reminds me of the Note7 vs. S7E. Instantly I was in love with how the camera software worked on the Note7.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] chavist:
In my opinion it feels very large in hand, but that could be because I am coming from a S8. Compared to the N7 I think the size is comparable. I like the camera and the display seems very sleek and bright (but I would expect nothing less from Samsung). I am not sure if the huge price tag is justified as it seems like a N7 with a dual camera. Still getting it though
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] usmaak:
Same here, but in my case it's a Note 4. After using the Note 8 for a few minutes, my Note 4 felt like my old S3. This phone really is something.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jah:
Who cares? If you need the Note functionality you can get the Note FE if the Note8 is too big.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] foulmouthedruffian:
You again!

"Who cares?" is a phrase I wholly dislike. Obviously this ekerbuddyeker dude cares because they posted it. Once again, bub, chillax. No need to tell people off because you don't agree with them. This is merely an open discussion about aesthetics. Deep breaths.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jah:
So okay for you to be a "police" but not for others? Most of the posters who have seen the Note8 like it. Looks are important but most owners would say battery life and functionality are more important. If it is looks, buy something that you think looks good. Most people put their smartphones in a case after purchase so looks are not really that important as the case / cover says more about the owner than the design chosen for the owner by the manufacturer. OnePlus understand this, Samsung also understand this. Just look at the great range of cases available from Samsung for the Note8.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] foulmouthedruffian:
That was a pretty decent because you didn't attack anyone! You're of course welcome to share differing opinions (it IS a forum), but you have a nasty habit of attacking or telling people off in your posts. Saying things like "who cares?" or "if you want blah blah look elsewhere" lends nothing to the discussion. It's just rude.

I happen to agree with you that battery life and functionality are more important. I actually like the more square/boxy look as well. My biggest disappointment/concern right now is I think cases will just make it look bad because of the curved screen. From pictures, I'm not liking the look of any case on the Note8.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] kbhasi:
Well, my friend did try it a number of weeks ago and he did say its huge. I tried it myself at a Challenger store here in Singapore, and it is huge, but I think I can live with the fingerprint sensor being too high.

What I couldn't try on the demo unit was that I was able to download a theme to make it look like stock Android (it even skins the nav bar!). There's one of 2 themes I recommend, depending on if you want the Android 6.0 look, or the Android 7.1 (Google Pixel) look. There are, however, a few more similar themes on the Samsung themes store. Unfortunately, Samsung and/or Monotype upped the font security with Samsung Experience 8.x, so I was unable to use my custom font package.

I have Instagram photos here if you want to see them.

If you haven't guessed already, I got my Note8 earlier today (from someone on the local classifieds who renewed their contract with a Note8 and wanted to sell it off, it's a common sight here) and have yet to brag on my Instagram profile about it, well, as of typing this reply.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] usmaak:
Best Buy has preorders for both the carrier locked and unlocked versions of the Note 8. I am coming off of a Note 4, and am very interested in the Note 8. My question is, are there any real benefits to me for buying the unlocked version vs. the Verizon version.

In the area in which I live, cell service mostly sucks across the board, but Verizon sucks the least. So I will not be changing carriers. So far, this is the pros/cons list based on the information that I've been able to find. I might be incorrect about one or more of these.

Pros:

Can change carriers whenever.

No carrier bloat.

Might get future updates more quickly.

Cons:

Might lose wifi calling.

Might lose wireless hotspot

Insurance is more expensive.

Best Buy has deals on pre-orders. For any Note 8, you get either a free memory card and wireless charging dock, or a Gear 365 camera. If you have their Best Buy card, then they have 24 month no interest financing. If you buy a carrier version of the phone, in addition to the other freebies, you get up to $150 off. The price of a Verizon Note 8 is $33.78 per month. The price of the unlocked Note 8 is $38.74 per month. Verizon also has a trade-in on my Note 4 of $240, which knocks the price down to $22.75 per month.

So given all of this, is there a compelling reason to get an unlocked phone? I know that carrier bloatware sucks, but there are solutions for it. At least there are on my Note 4.

One other question is, if I got a phone not tied to a carrier, does that make it easier to root in the future?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] nuclearrage:
I pre ordered the unlocked phone and the reason was what happened to me with the note 7 (both times) and the ability to switch from AT&T to Verizon if I want to. Also lack of carrier bloat. Samsung has insurance for 12 bucks a month that is better than the carrier crap insurance. Wifi calling is a non issue for me, didn't realize that I might not have hot spot, but unlocked will get root first, and then Hotspot no trouble.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] treoreloaded:
I too pre ordered the unlocked version from samsung's website. I am with att right now and is planning to switch to t-mobile of project fi. not sure yet which of the two. but defintely a good plus having the unlocked version. I am not really concerned about wi fi calling since majority of the stuff i do to communicate is through text messages and through facebook messenger.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] chong67:
I have a unlock S8. I use it 100% fine on my T-mobile. But I can't do video call to another T-mobile customer. Thats the only difference.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ahenderson223:
I picked up the AT&T variant. My insurance is only $8.99 and if I call before 4pm I will have my phone the next day. Also if I need to warranty my phone they will send me another phone before I have to ship mine back to them. I'm not worried about bloat if that was the case I would just buy a OnePlus 5 or wait for the Pixel 2 you can uninstall or disable anything you don't want. I really don't see a need to root anymore. Im not all about flashing ROMs just to lose the features that make the Note the Note.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] netnerd:
i preordered ATT note8, i worry the unlocked note8 wont have all the att LTE bands.

on my att galaxy s8+ i getting 115mb down, 28mb up on att LTE Advanced
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] apprentice:
Speaking from my experience here in the UK, I have found that locked phones are a bad deal generally. They don't get the latest updates very quickly and you can only stick with one SIM card. They also devalue the phone when you want to sell it, and whilst you could use an unlocking service, they aren't always available for you phone or carrier combo.

You don't really get much (if any) carrier bloatware here however, so that's not a consideration. WiFi calling doesn't always deliver a good call connection and I have had occasional issues with this when using my hands-free car connection.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] usmaak:
For me, root is only useful for two reasons.

1. Ad blocking.

2. Tracking down the nuisance wakelocks that android always seems to have. I've had many android phones going back to the Evo, and the only ones that I didn't end up hating were the ones that I could root. My most current phone is a Note 4 and I blew it and lost root a couple of weeks ago and couldn't get it back. Now I can't tell what's keeping my phone awake all of the time. :(

I'm not into flashing anymore. When I had the Evo, I must have flashed it with 100 different ROMs. Now I just want a stable phone that doesn't get killed by wakelocks.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ahenderson223:
Battery life has been good to me on my last couple of Android devices. As far as updates on my S8+ I'm running the most current software and security patch that the unlocked unbranded has.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] pete4k:
My problem is, as a former note 7 user, I need to buy Note 8 direct from Samsung to get discount and it is a nightmare to SIM unlock the phone on Tmobile, if purchased from Samsung. Samsung can't unlock it, only T-mobile can and since the phone comes direct from Samsung, T-mo has no record of it. So you need to spend a lot of time talking to higher level support, they need to input your IMEI manually into their system, probably call Samsung to verify status of the phone etc. It's just too much headache. So I was wondering if I could buy unlocked phone and load T-mo software to get wifi calling back, but I just hope the phone will remain unlocked? Anybody knows?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jackdforme:
Been done many times over on s8 unlocked so I'd think yes.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] AndroidCommander:
I don't understand all of this rhetoric about wifi calling not working. I had a mid level Samsung Grand Prime from Sprint that did not have ANY service hooked up to it. I think the previous owner that sold it on ebay left his sim card in it since he switched carriers but I never hooked it up to service and for a time of many months, went around making wifi calls anywhere there was a wifi connection just to go off the grid and remember what it was like when we didn't have mobile phones and the only communication when out-and-around town, was a pay phone on the corner gas station ...... if it didn't have two or three people waiting in line to use it.

I understand that some carriers software disable their wifi calling features in some models of phones because they don't want anyone to be able to make a call unless they are paying for service, but seams from my experience that it only requires network service provisioning which is probably why my GP worked with the SIM, even though it wasn't active which means that it SHOULD work on any phone with any carrier that has a network SIM regardless of it being active with service. I realize (although not personally experienced) that some carriers disable wifi calling in their branded phones even with provisioning and SIM unless there is active service and I think some disable it even with active service so as to charge extra for it, am I right? That should be fixable by a patch or something. Do not all ROM's correct that nad make wifi calling work?

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PS. I think unlocked branded phones are the way to go just because of the lack of bloatware and ability to switch carriers at will and/or pop in a SIM from another carrier where you don't have good coverage or travel out of the country. To highlight, I just this year worked in two different towns where T-mobile had almost nonexistent coverage (one of which was instrumental in loosing a job) and being able to pop in a pre-paid sim would have corrected that. I thought this 2-3 years ago but didn't listen to myself and purchased a T-Mobile Note 8 last year and have been kicking myself for it ever since.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] iceepyon:
I prefer having a unlocked device that way I can use it with any Cell Provider I want.
[G4 General] Xdekker:
I was wondering, would you buy a relaunched version of LG's old design language that made it well... LG...

G2 , G3 and G4 were all unmistakably LG and especially the G4 with the leather back is in my opinion still one of the best looking and best feeling phones if not the best feeling phones due to the slight curve, plastics sides (which believe it or not, I prefer to aluminium although something like titanium would be nice) and of course the Leather Back which is totally awesome.

Would you buy one? The LG G4's body, a little more refined and updated of course with the brand new 18:9 OLED screen and of course with that slight curve. LG should really use its marketing power then to say it ''curves to your hand'' which you know... it kinda does...

It's just for fun but who knows, maybe if we shout loud enough LG will listen because I really think they went wrong with the G5 and tried to play it so safe and fix it just to make the finance department happy...

Let me and the rest of XDA (and the world!) know your thoughts!
[G4 General] :
No because of the curves. Not usable on a flat surface.

No because of the buttons on the back. Not usable on a flat surface.

No because of the terrible battery life. LG did their best to make this phone drain battery from everywhere.

No because of the ghosting on the screen. Can't trust LG yo make something that lasts.

No because of the updates.

The new phones that came out in 2017 are so much better looking imo. I haven't felt all of them in my hands ofc but I prefer something that looks better on a case and I can trust to get the job done. LG can't deliver and because of that their phones are so much cheaper and that's the only reason I might consider getting one,as a desperate move.
[G4 General] ezzony:
Yes because of the combination of curved back, curved front, textured leather back, removable swapable back cover, removable swapable battery and finally love the volume buttons on the back. Absolutely the best power/vol+/- design I have ever seen or owned. Because of spare battery and fastcharge I never run out of power or have to put device in battery saver mode.

The G4 is my first top end phone. I was very reluctant to go high end because of cost and 5.5" screen but the design of the phone is such that any concerns I had about physical usability were mitigated by the design. I've never had a phone that I've dropped so rarely. I really only wanted a great camera and that is what I got plus with a big screen and descent processor I find I use it much more than I though and my laptop a lot less.

I know there was problems with this phone but that would be the point of a new version ! It would have to still have a curved back and buttons on the back for me keep my interest otherwise it wouldn't really be a G4 update.
[G4 General] F-L-Y-E-R:
Well this poll is a bit inaccurate because people who vote against most likely had bootloops, what if there was no bootloop you should admit it would have been a perfect phone because of what was mentioned in the post above, at the end of the day that's why we bought the phone ;)

P.S. on top of that phone industry was hugely slowed down by 808/810 chips having almost no progress otherwise it would have been a beast unfortunately it became outdated too quickly :(
[G4 General] tmihai20:
Even if there was no bootloop I would still not buy an updated G4. LG has a very bad policy with updates, unfortunately. I still use my G4 and I hope it will not bootloop. I have my eyes on the Nokia 8, even with the somewhat smaller screen and on a Huawei P10, although I do not like the smartphones that have a glass back.
[G4 General] MattheewHun:
G4 is good. G2 is best. I bought my G4 cause the G2's screen broke and the nearby Nokia/Orange mobile/Nameless services would charge me more than 100€ to repair it. Now i have some spare time, so my G2 will awaken after 8 months of laying in his box. Perfectly made phone. Battery life is insane even with a Li-Pol battery that has over 1000 cycles, screen is still up-to date with its resouliton, the only thing i would change is the RAM, i prefer 3GB. Anyways, LG is on a bad route, G6 has no benefits to G4, just the IP68, after 2 years of manufacturing. But!! in our country LG is the most price friendly, and i like their products, so no doubt, i'll update to G7, when it comes out in 2018 :D:D
[G4 General] Carebear85:
Definitely yes. I am on vacation, bought G6 here and still using G4. Camera is awesome, battery life for me, after it bootlooped and had mobo replaced is awesome and if I overdo photospheres and stuff I have spare battery.

On top of that it feels awesome in the hand!

The only gripe I have with it is relatively slow CPU/GPU and being unreliable due to potential bootloop
[G4 General] Ciccius-IT:
I totally agree with you!

Nothing to add! In fact I still have a G4 in my hand and I don't know when I will change and with what. I don't like new phones stiles. Only Moto Z series...

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[G4 General] raptorddd:
serial number ?? if itsa 601 onwards yes .
[G4 General] Minto107:
Never with 18:9 screen. Who was drunk enough to create such bullsh1t

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I'd buy an upgraded G4 if it had metal body, less bezels on the bottom, 6GB RAM and Samsung software. LG one is so outdated, even on Nougat when compared to Samsung

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[G4 General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
No for a curved design, using the phone in flat surface so annoying..

No if there is no fingerprint.. I wish something like V10, everything on the back or maybe something like Xperia Z5.. Everything on the right side of the phone including fingerprint..

No for a terrible screen quality.. I'll prefer the G3 screen more although it is too sharp and poor color reproduction but it is better than ghosting effect..

No for a speaker at the back.. I'll prefer more like my G2 and V20 or much better to have dual front speaker like my old HTC M7..

No for not having the dual-tone LED flash.. I hate the way photo taken by LED flash turn out to be yellow-ish.. Is those stupid orange sensor next to LED is just a gimmick?

No for a stupid update policy.. Too much secret in and there was no information about when the next update exact date will drop.. It's like a gamble game for G4 with Nougat.. Either we will get or only Korea will get it..

No for a super slow update.. Look, my G4 still don't get Nougat although the Beta was released a month ago and my V20 still using old security patches.. Why???

No for LG keep skipping update like their G3 which don't get 5.1.1 for an unknown reason and not forgetting the V20 too which don't get 7.1.1 again for an unknown reason.. Looks like LG developer are lazy these day..