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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto X4, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto X4 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it. :o

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] e2robby:
Came to the X4 after using a N6 and 5X. I've always appreciated the ease of rooting the nexus line, I hope this phone (being part of AndroidOne) follows suit!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
Love it. Only wish the Android One Fi version had one button navigation. Paused Fi and am using Straight Talk CDMA Verizon sim card.

BTW, I have an S8 for work. Prefer the Moto X4 by far. Only S8 feature that is *marginally* better is the rear camera, yet it doesn't have the dual camera features
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] mcd1992:
Just got mine in yesterday from Fi. Looks like this one isn't following suit, the bootloader can't be unlocked without getting a unlock token from Motorola. I tried to do the oem get_unlock_data and get a token but the Motorola website does not list this phone as unlockable. Gonna have to call support at some point.

Overall the phone itself is nice and there's not much Moto bloat on it.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] forbidden8:
Got mine yesterday. Seems to be a catchy gadget. Only camera shutter speed bothers me. It's a bit slow. Overall a handy device with decent camera and pleasant look. Good battery life. Crisp display and almost pure android. Soilid phone.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] mejgs:
One of the worst phones I ever bought, considering the price ofc. According to reviews it was supposed to be pretty fluid (almost stock android), camera was graded as "pretty good" etc.

Software is not optimized at all, although it's a little bit better on oreo. I encounter stutters on a daily basis (minor, but they do exist), battery life is not nearly as good as with the competition, camera is sh*t (slow, over-exposing...),moto apps are a disaster (especially moto display).

The only things I actually like are the display, build quality, signal reception (wifi,lte) & earpiece is pretty loud.

Conclusion.....not worth it, not at all. Even 2016's midrangers are better (like honor 8 etc...)
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Timalay:
Got this phone Friday, and loving it so far. The only minor problem I with it is the touchpad gestures can be a bit hit and miss.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] sleze:
I have had this phone for a good 6 months or so using Project Fi and here is my take: Outstanding.

Pros: Inexpensive. Well built. Micro SD. Waterproof. Battery Life. Clean UI. Fast OS Updates via Android One. Moto Gestures for flashlight and camera. Wide Angle Camera is used a LOT more than I originally expected.

Cons: Camera is SLOW. Can't store apps on the micro SD card (downloaded content only).

I came from AT&T with a corporate discount and my bill went from $140/month (two lines) to $90/month (two lines INCLUDING the cost of the phones). This also doesn't include the big rebates I got that lowered my bill to $40/month for a few months. Project Fi just works.

As far as I can tell, the only bloatware on this phone is the Moto gesture app, which I use. Contrast this from the Samsung S5 that had GIGS of nonsense apps (AT&T Maps?? Yellow pages??) that could not be removed (because I got phones that were updated to a point that was unrootable).

I wish this had wireless recharging (which can actually be added externally). I wish I could move apps from internal to the SD card. I wish the camera snapped faster pics. Other than that, probably the best value for the dollar phone I have ever owned.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] frabe8378910:
Very good Smartphone all together.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're a power user. Can the Moto X4 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Moto X4. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] ranros:
I used to be a supporter of the X4 but I am no longer. First - most phones allow the transfer of applications to the SD card. The X4 doesn't. Given that system files take up 28 of a 32 GB phone there is nothing left (even with all media files moved.) My apps won't even update anymore without my individually going through each app and deleting the cache. Second - latest Android update removed the ability to connect the phone to my PC. It's not even recognized as a USB device. These are real problems Moto. My phone is fairly new but beyond the return period otherwise I'd return it.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] sleze:
Overall, the development aspect of this phone has been lower than any phone I have ever owned. There is still some development and discussions in other sections for different Android builds, camera mods, etc but much, MUCH less than other phones.

That being said, despite the issue that ranros raised (which I also dislike), I am as please with this phone as I have been with any previous phone (if only I was able to root my old S5s...).
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] bcrichster:
I've recently acquired the X4 and noticed the device trees are either very unreliable or straight up missing.. I was looking for Oreo & Pie trees to build with since there's Official builds but they either don't seem to exist or just a big pain to find
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] vkbhanwariya:
May be you are searching for this

https://github.com/moto-SDM660
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] bcrichster:
Thank you, Sir. Much appreciated
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Would you say that the Moto X4 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Moto X4 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] forbidden8:
https://www.xda-developers.com/moto-x4-and-z2-force-qualcomm-neural-processing-engine/

Little info about the SoC...
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
That's super interesting! I wonder what kind of apps will be able to use it.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] zkhmcknol:
Have it for 1 week.... Hope the speed lasts
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] luan176:
I'm using it and yeah, it's really fast, but for some reason on YouTube its lagging some times on FHD videos, I'll hard reset it after Oreo if continues

Enviado de meu moto x4 usando Tapatalk
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] tavcsor:
There is a significant speed difference between the 3 GB and 4 GB versions. Go for the larger memory version!

https://www.amazon.it/Motorola-Moto...1696500031&ie=UTF8&qid=1513289679&sr=1-9&th=1
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] ijuanp03:
The phone does not lag at all. I just miss the fast response time when opening apps since I have to wait for a few seconds compared to when I was using my Huawei P10 or HTC 10.

No, it isn't bad at all. I'd prefer this than having a highend device with laggy UI.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] fix-this!:
i was shocked how responsive and fast the phone is for a midrange.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] SynbiosVyse:
My Moto X4 has been running like trash ever since upgrading to Oreo. Very laggy scrolling and unresponsive to touches. It's sitting at 99% RAM usage all the time. I have serious doubts about 3GB RAM in the long run.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Siddhesh K:
Did you try factory reset?

Even I am using 3gb variant of Moto X4 and I feel performance is much snappier on oreo compared to nougat. I used to face minor slowdowns on nougat, but since it's upgraded to oreo (2 months ago), I have not faced the issue again. My average ram usage is 83% and I face ram management problem only when I open camera, otherwise performance is good.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] SynbiosVyse:
Factory reset is a good idea, there must be a dirty upgrade going from 7 to 8. I just wish there was a way to get a clean AOSP ROM on this thing. Coming from Nexus line of phones it is very weird for me to be running a stock phone.
[Off-topic] justicejayant:
In which thing you are addicted to?

I am addicted to music.

Jay
[Off-topic] TheBrit:
Chocolate - mmmmmmm - nice.
[Off-topic] mariner_heart:
i am addicted to internet. even when i go to meet my friends i miss 'something'

and i'm addict to music also.

the track i'm right now listening to is new radicals-you get what you give which appeared in Surf's Up OST.
[Off-topic] rohitsharman:
Re: In which thing you are addicted to?

i love muSIc..

Linkin Park, Justin Timberlake, Nelly Furtado, Kylie Minogue and the list goes on..
[Off-topic] galaxys:
Fine Wine and Fine Woman!!
[Off-topic] Alan Chan:
Cars, music, guitar, gadgets, mobile phones

and ofcourse... women :p
[Off-topic] briggs81:
Transformers, Ladies, Computers, PDAs and web design.

And jeans.

And PS3 Call of Duty 4 [briggs81 psn]
[Off-topic] ultraprimeomega:
Smartphones, PPC, transformers, wii, computers, and a resent addiction would be myspace but still i hate it. oh and pizza:D
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
smartphone addiction seems to be pretty common here

even in the pretty new device forums people are talking about what

device to get next

and everybody go balistic when a new os version gets out and they want it bad

sure it may slow the device down compared to the windows mobile 1981 their device came with but give me give me give me :P

personaly i'm addicticed mainly to yelling name at and bad mouthing people on tv :P
[Off-topic] petervbeck:
computers and Guinness of course!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
OMG! Kim K posted another selfie with tons of cleavage! Rate this thread to express how quickly apps launch on the Moto X4. A higher rating indicates that even the most intensive apps launch quickly and without hesitation, even if they are no longer in RAM.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
As fast as my S8.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
Very fast. No slowdowns at all.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] :
Is anyone experiencing any lag?

I also have some ram issues. Went from browser to Snapchat and both apps had to completely reload. It seems to be happening more and more. I do have a pixel 2 wallpaper set...
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
No lag/reload/ram issues here. I average 2.4/2.7GB, and apps are pretty snappy to load.

If you're mentioning the Pixel 2 wallpaper, try removing it and see if that makes a difference?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] :
Yeah I think it was def the live wallpaper. I reset to a regular static one and performance seemed to pick up a little. However, I still think there might be some ram issues.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] SR3TLAW:
Yeah this was my worry, RAM. Their is not enough of it
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
3GB is just fine IMO. I haven't seen any slowdowns whatsoever. I'm using 2.1 out of 2.7 GB.

My old 2GB 5x was a bit cramped, but the 3GB in the x4 is great.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] forbidden8:
4 gb model. 70 apps installed. 1.4gb free ram. Moves pretty fluid without any lags etc.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the Moto X4 performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the Moto X4 keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
Perfect. Smooth. Typical RAM used is 1.7 out of 3GB.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
I've been averaging 2.3GB out of 2.7GB. App switching is great. I have 86 apps installed.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Moto X4 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
It's been quite smooth. No lag or stutter at all.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] pietpietersen:
firefox beta was choppy, not sure if thats because of the beta.. or whether firefox is always choppy.

but the menu's and chrome and everything else scrolled super smooth !
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Moto X4 stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
No noticeable heating at all, whether charging or running intensive apps.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
I played games for an hour last night, and it got a little warm, but barely noticeable. Overall it runs very cool.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] NataliaYQue:
I beg to differ

Then why's mine always freaking hot??! I wanna cry...I miss my 1stgenG.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] bookworth:
Eastern Europe, currently the phone is freaking hot even when turned off. I hear, in Portugal, Spain it is even worse.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] fracarol:
Hi all, how is it going with heat on the latest updates (if any)? Thanks :cowboy:
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Moto X4's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
With flash it's 5 stars. Works pretty good without. Works as good as my S8.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
I took some test shots on my phone today, using 3 different camera apps:

- The Stock Moto Camera

- The Stock Google Camera from the Play Store

- Modified Google Camera found Here. MGCB_7.0H_C2API_Full_PXL2_v.1.4_60FPS_noburst_v3

I tested in a large room with the lights off, and sunlight coming in. There are lots of shadows and dark areas, as well as very bright spots. I tested with HDR Off, HDR On, and HDR Auto (if applicable). I also threw in a wide angle, for comparison. (spoiler: Ew).

Some things that surprised me, in no particular order:

- The Stock Moto HDR actually did a decent job at brightening up the dark areas, and giving the shadows a bit of color. Not a ton of extra noise, either. However, the window was still washed out.

- Stock Google Cam didn't offer anything the others didn't, and HDR On/Off didn't seem to do a thing.

- Modified Google Cam definitely helped with the bright spots, as those are the only 2 pictures that you could see out the window, but it also introduced a LOT of noise in the shadows and dark areas. This is a known side effect of HDR in low-light, as I saw the same effect on my 5x when using HDR+ in low light.

I may try a different Modified Gcam, and try to input the settings manually. Hopefully that will result in better pics, as otherwise the Stock Moto camera seems to be our best bet for now.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] FrozenOx:
The stock camera app in normal picture mode is not using good ISO/shutter speed combinations in low light at all. Take some and check the info on your images. It always goes for high ISO and faster shutter speed. It stops on 1/15 A LOT, and seems to adjust ISO from there. Switch to Professional Mode and force a slower shutter speed, lower ISO and now they look much better. HDR on this app is garbage with those auto focus settings too. It works much better with higher quality images with less noise, which the auto focus is incapable of providing in any low light situations.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
I did some more tests with the v4.0 AIO modified Gcam, and there wasn't a difference.

I went back to the v1.4, and took some pics at home. These were very low-light, with candles the only light source in the room. I noticed similar trends:

Stock Cam is VERY blochy when you zoom in.

Stock HDR seems to brighten the whole image, but isn't very, you know, dynamic.

Stock Cam is way less noisy/blochy when you zoom in. It preserves much more detail.

Modified Gcam using HDR+ does a MUCH better job handling the candle light in the pic, as the light source isn't overexposed.

I may do some 100% crops and share them tomorrow, but Stranger Things 2 with the wife is more important atm. #sorrynotsorry.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] FrozenOx:
I'm using the manual Google APK here with HDR+ and it's also using very high ISOs, even in pretty good light. I have a lamp behind me, lights on in the room and both apps are using an ISO2400. If I manually set the ISO to 1200 or lower, I can still take a good photo by manually adjusting the shutter speed to 1/15, 1/10, or even 1/8 (anything lower and it's blurred). This HW should be capable of blazing fast auto focus so there is zero reason it's setting the ISOs so high. High ISO = more noise, less detail. Fast auto focus should mean that lowering the ISO in low light will focus better, faster, with less blur from the slower shutter speed. Something ain't right here.

HDR+ will clean up the noise from the high ISO setting some.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] TurboBot247:
That's odd. Is this an issue you've been experiencing on the optimum configs (manual version) or with both modded apps?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
Yeah, you're right on this. I did some more test last night, and the most consistent seems to be the modified Gcam HDR+. It preserves more detail while keeping the noise down.

Basically, I feel like these are all just playing around with settings and apks that are meant for other phones. I know the Gcam software can work wonders, and I know the sensor/ISP/DSP/CPU can support more than what the stock Moto Cam is doing, but getting a modded Gcam apk that's meant for out phones would be fantastic. Unfortunately, it'll take someone smarter than me to piece it all together.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] pdx1138:
Coming from a much older S3, the moto x4 camera is WAY ahead.

I have a small laser projector that only outputs 63 lumens.

The S3 camera could never get a photo on the highest setting.

The x4 camera does it easily.

Apples and Oranges possibly, but the camera is not nearly as "bad" as some

reviews stated.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] gaurink:
Is it really? I'm choosing between the S7 and the X4, the camera being the only thing making me lean towards the Galaxy.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
I had an S7 for work until recently. Hated it. Battery life is worse than X4, too much bloatware, and the fingerprint sensor on it suuuuucked. Rear camera was about the same as X4 but front was inferior. No contest. Get the X4.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] ijuanp03:
Please think twice believing reviewers.

Most of them hated Moto X4's camera coz it has a sluggish and mediocre quality when it comes to depth (portrait mode).

BUT I can assure you that my Moto X4 performs on par with HTC 10 when it comes to ALL lighting conditions.

I took photos side by side and the quality is the same. I even found that the Moto X4 does NOT need to auto trigger HDR in the lowlight pic I took (HTC did auto trigger HDR).

Both HTC 10 and Moto X4 have minimal noise and really looks almost the same given that they are using a different ISP (SD 820 vs SD 630).

I'll try to upload both pics so you can check them as well.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] forbidden8:
Quick one from today.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] ijuanp03:
The Galaxy S7 will definitely has a better camera quality BUT the X4 also has a pretty good camera so you won't get disappointed.

BUT I'd rather choose Moto X4 since it is a new device while S7 is already almost 2 generations older (S9 is coming).
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] varunbala:
Is this using the stock camera app?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] forbidden8:
Yes.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] tavcsor:
Four low light examples. They were taken in hostile lightning codtions by Gcam HDR+. No tripod. The quality and the dynamic range is at the same level as Nexus 5x, Pixel 1.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] forbidden8:
Can you share a gCam version that you use. And setting ...I try few, but for me quality of stock camera photos is better. Thx.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] tavcsor:
GCam5.1.018-Arnova8G2-V1.3-Front-HDR+

Nexus6p, nexus 6p, hdd+ on
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] gavi7566:
Does the portrait mode of gcam work?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] tavcsor:
Yes
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] MeltingSnowman:
The latest reccommended apk works well with Orero but I've not seen that much difference using the out of the box settings compared to the original camera. Maybe there's slightly more detail in the highlights and the shadows but sometimes the image has a weird hue in the shadows for some reason. I can see the benefits of the stabilization in video mode but other than that doesen't make much better photos than the stock camera app to me. Does anyone has experienced this behaviour?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Moto X4 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
I have an S8 too and these cameras are right up there. Plus I love the extra effects like bokeh. The sensor looks cool too.

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Could easily be a five star camera. It's definitely better than the G5 Plus and challenges my S8.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Karlinski:
thanks for the review. I have a G5Plus, and am looking to change it up to the X4, solely based on the garbage camera in my g5Plus. Can you post some photos? preferably along side the G5Plus if you happen to have them
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] leslien01:
Does anyone know exactly which camera sensor used in the Moto X4?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] vivek638:
Anyone have noticed that after taking selfie the pic becomes little softer.. dont know its an issue or a quality.. confused .. can someone help regarding this
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] mitulvohra:
yes, i do notice that too. software is overprocessing.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] vivek638:
Yes it is over processing.. even i tried different camera apps but still the same result.. maybe it will get fixed after an update
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] tavcsor:
Turn off the beauty mode! The 3rd icon on the top row.

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Same sensor, darker lens. The x4's camera is weaker than G5 plus's in paper. Fortunately X4 is compatible with Google HDR+. I took amazing photos with it.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] tavcsor:
Some examples. Taken with gcam HDR+
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Siddhesh K:
Can you please share the download link for the app?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] bombaglad:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Siddhesh K:
Thanks but I was asking for specific version.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] bombaglad:
https://xdaforums.com/moto-x4/help/google-camera-hdr-port-moto-x4-t3693807/page3

they discuss it here
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] tavcsor:
There is no moto specific version. I use the Arnova version with Nexus 6p hdr+ settings.