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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] @dom@:
Hi dude

more info plz!! I didn't well undertand your problem!

Are you trying to connect by your Pravider Data Connection (GPRS/HSDPA) or by WiFi??!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] simbadogg:
sorry, i guess i didn't say that. i did say medianet, but i sure have been a little more concise. but yes, i'm trying to connect through att wireless medianet. the weird thing is, i am connected because i am able to go online with palringo and talk w/ contacts on aim, but IE doesn't work, windows live doesn't work either. i went through and changed some of the settings in media net per attwireless support forum, i'm looking for the proxy cab to download as it isn't on my phone, this could be the fix for it...but i highly doubt it because the internet was working on my phone just fine for the first week or so after i installed my ROM. now it just wont connect anymore, and i know i didn't do anything except uninstall solitaire and a few other games
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] simbadogg:
ok...not much progress, but i guess this is a start. instead of getting an error message when i try to open a page w/ IE, in the status bar it says "Locating..." "Opening...", "0 Kb"...then it just stops, and nothing loads up. I'm stumped
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] @dom@:
First of all sorry, but i'm not American, so correct me if i'm wrong: "ATT Wireless" is your Phone Provider, right? and you are trying to connect to internet using the Provider Data Connection and not Wi-Fi, e.g. through your home router (Wi-Fi = Wireless but not "ATT Wireless", names coincidence!!! :p), right? if this is correct, you didn't answer me to the above-mentioned question (using Provider Data or Wi-Fi??)!! :rolleyes:

So try to set this Windows options:

Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections -> Advanced Tab -> Networks Selection -> than select in the two options your Internet Provider service, more ,if you need, under the both tweak keys you can edit it, like proxy settings!

Hope to well undertand your problem!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] simbadogg:
Umm...i did answer your question, i did say it was attwireless. I'm guessing you're not familiar with NA cell phone providers, which i'm sorry we missed, but i did answer the question. No need for the rolling of eyes. But yes, as i said in some posts earlier, i did change those settings already as per the attwireless support forum on their website. But its still not working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] @dom@:
...ok, we misunderstanding, or better,i didn't well understand you! :(

However give a look here , maybe it helps you!

Ciao
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] simbadogg:
its ok, no problem at all. thanx for the link but that didnt' work either.i really dont know whats going on with my phone, the internet worked flawlessly for the first 2 weeks i had my phone, then it just stopped working yesterday. well, it stopped working for every other program except for palringo, and i'm almost certain that it is not sms based, so i dont understand why that would work, and not other programs.

UPDATE:

ok, so i tried using the media new gprs connection with my 8125, same situation. i'm not sure what on earth it could be, but w/e it is, i can use palingro and aim pocket pc on my tilt, but i just can't get any data from web or anything else. go figure. i think i'm just gonna let give it up for the day, i've been working on it for 8 hours. maybe take a look at it again this weekend, i dont HAVE to have the net until monday, but even then i can still use wifi until i get this sorted out. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] simbadogg:
ok, so it looks like just about everything is working now on my phone except internet explorer while connected to the AT&T wireless EDGE/3G connection. I can download the maps while connected to Windows Live GPS, i'm able to sign on and chat while using agile messenger, i can download emails on the go with my outlook mailbox.

The only thing that is giving me a problem still is internet explorer/opera mobile. Anytime i type in a page it says "locating...", "opening..." "0 KB" while using IE then it just stops there and doesn't load a thing, and when using opera is says no connection detected. Anybody know what this could be? I dont see anywhere in IE or opera where you can change browser settings as far as connectivity...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] elkavayo:
very similar problem

Hi,

I'm having a very similar problem. I have an HTC TYTN II unlocked. It has worked beautifully for a couple of months and suddenly PIE would not work. It says Connecting...Locating...Opening and then hangs in there for a while until it error outs with "the connection has been lost"

I'm on T-Mobile full internet plan. The ROM is original stock ROM (UK). Curiously, the "push" emails continues to work, but PIE does not. I can't login to Live messenger either.

I have reset the phone to factory settings to no avail. I have called T-Mobile and they say my account is okay.

Any idea? This is really weird.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weebo523:
elkavayo, where are you located? I am having the same problem today & I am in south florida. I just got off the phone with a T-Mobile tech & he tried something and said it appeared to be a network problem - not a phone issue. Wi-fi is working fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] elkavayo:
weebo523

I'm located in South Florida too, Miami to be precise. Those were my thoughts initially, but I called T-Mobile and they told me that there were no outages or network problems. This has been happening to me since Wednesday 8:00 AM.

Additionally, I swap SIMs with a friend, who also have T-Mobile, and configured his phone (HTC Touch unlocked) to use T-Mo full internet and it worked on his phone with my account!

My wide and daughter (Dash and T-Mo SDA) can also connect to thye net normally with their phones, so I don't think it is the service. Mine doesn't work with neither full nor T-zones. It does work with Wi-Fi though.

The mystery continues... thanksfor sharing your story. Hopefully we'll find a "cure" soon. I've beenthinking about "upgrading" to 6.1.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] 1magine:
i have the same problem with an unlocked Tilt running on my Rogers network.

all my messaging apps work but not Internet Explorer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vr24:
I'm in Fort Lauderdale and just had the same problem .. I have TWO 8525's (TyTn) on T-Mobile and also a Wing with T-Mobile, whats weird, is that both 8525's are having the problem, whereas the Wing is working fine.

There is definately an issue right now with South Florida and t-mobile.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weebo523:
elkavayo & vr24, this is strange. It seems to be happening exclusively to the Tilt / TyTn & in South Florida with one Rogers. And it seems like very few of us have the problem. I am usually pretty good at trouble shooting but this has me stumped.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vr24:
totally, I have tried tons of settings, everything I can come up with, used their Data Configurator, I've tried 3 different ROMs, including Win Mo 6.1, and even on the TyTn forum, people with the 8525 in other parts of the country aren't having the issue.

It's really messed up, and as I said, my Wing works fine, lol... but I want my TyTn as the wing is having other malfunctions. the only problem is, how can you argue it's the network when one phone works and the other doesn't. there is SOMETHING that changed on the network though that is not accepting something with the tytn, in just our area, lol.. obviously. Just no idea what it is.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weebo523:
vr24 - at least you saved me the trouble of trying different ROMs, which I was just about to do :-) I did try going to a backup with no luck. Do you think that something could have gone bad in the phone that connects us through GPRS?

I guess I will have to sleep on this for now. Hope you or someone figures this out while I'm sleeping - VBG
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vr24:
Lol... don't count on me too much to figure this one out. It's quite the nightmare really. And it's a shame. I just purchased my 2 Hermes and was thrilled to have them and they were working, now I have very expensive bricks basically!!!

Anyways, help would be awesome to anyone out there willing to continue troubleshooting this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vr24:
Well I have some "good" news... I'll be heading from Fort Lauderdale to Los Angeles this coming Wednesday, if we don't get it sorted out by then, and this magically works on the West Coast, I'm jam t-mobiles balls into a vice grip until they fix it. I'm REAL curious to see if it makes any difference.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weebo523:
Vr - I am way to impatient to wait till wednesday :-)

Have you tried a hard reset yet?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] arocha55:
I'm having the same exact issue as you guys are, and it all started friday morning. I am in boca raton, florida and my PIE won't resolve any website. Palringo connects and shows my AIM session "online" but none of my contacts show up. WiFi works perfectly. I am on T-mobile unlimited data plan. I am running Duttys Dualtouch v4 ROM, and I was on the phone with tmobile for almost 2 hours and nothing they tried worked. I also tried a hard-reset and re-flashing my ROM and still no go. This is definetly a HUGE issue and I really don't know what else could be wrong. :mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weebo523:
Well, so far that's 4 of us using T-mobile, all in South Florida that seem to be affected thus far. I can't believe that the only people with unlocked kaisers on T-mobile live in South Florida so the lack of any others adding to this thread seems to point to an isolated network issue. If we don't find a solution soon, we may have to wait for your trip to California, vr24, to confirm this.

I am on a stock ATT Tilt - non flashed - that has been working great for 3 months. Elkavayo, you seem to have a good deal of technical knowledge and have had no luck. It makes little sense that all of our phones could have gone bad in exactly the same way at the same time. It almost certainly has to be something T-mobile did, and only here.

If anyone reading this thread is currently browsing the internet successfully using a kaiser / tilt / tytn on the T-mobile network with EDGE, please let us know & tell us where you are located.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vr24:
I have tried 3 different full rom's / flashed... and about 7 different radios.. still same issue.

It's totally isolated since everyone on the Hermes (TyTn) forum with T-Mobile isn't complaining. It's only happening with TyTn 1 and TyTn 2 (Hermes and Kaiser) in South Florida and it's utter garbage.

Guys, I'm going to suggest against repeated rom changes and flashes unless you get real desperate, as it's not really doing anything, and considering we have used about 5 or more different roms and tons of radios, I'd think it's not the issue.

t-mobile, those f3@#kers... I better not have to sell this and go back to the crappy Wing.

I'm going to look into putting Win Mo 5 back on one of my TyTn's and seeing if that does anything. -- Update -- Actually, too much crap involved with downgrading to Win Mo 5, I'm not gonna bother as I don't see most likely fixing anything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] elkavayo:
vr24,

Agree that it seems to be -at least at this point- somehow related with T-Mobile in Florida. The reason the Wing works and the reason we are screwed is that for T-Mo the Tytn II is an unsupported handset, since they did not sell it, and for HTC is an unsupported handset because they did not sell it in the United States. It the phone catches fire, liquifies or something you can prove is a manufactuing defect, HTC will probably honor the warranty, but issues with a specific provider, I doubt they step into.

T-mo has told me explicitly, twice, that they do not support or troubleshoot handsets sold outside they network, even if it is supposed to work. It's a shame, because T-mo has the least amount of hansets, the slowest network, and we contibue to be loyal to them in spite of the competition. I asked the technician today to help me troubleshoot the problem by debugging the actual connection, which they can do, and he told me, after a good 5 minutes on hold, that "the lady" from the connections department said she would nothelp me with an unsupported handset.

I too advise against reflashing the device. Honestly I did it because I was going to do it anyways to get 6.1, but I already knew you had gone through this unsuccessfully. I think we will need to wait... but how long?

Unfortunalety, being only a few of us in Florida, I doubt someone will show a marked interest in helping us solving this issue, and the learning curve is too steep at this point for me to try to get to the bottom of it, which I'll try nonetheless, but don't hold your breath.

I guess you know how I feel... having a fancy and expensive phone with the capabilities of my first PrimeCo handset... not good.

Hope this is only temporary..

Luis
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weebo523:
Luis & VR - thank you for all that hard work. I will call T-mobile on Monday & ask them to try what you asked them to do. I am not as tech savvy as you, but I am persistent on the phone. Since I pay them over $250 a month for service on 4 phones, hopefully I can be very persuasive :-) I will post back then. In the meantime, if anyone comes up with something let us know.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] elkavayo:
Thanks weebo, good luck, we all are going to need it!

I'll keep on picking my brain...if I don't get anywhere, at least is a good training :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] arocha55:
Yeah it really sucks what we're experiencing here in south florida. I just came back from Orlando and the two days that I was there I had no problems resolving websites, receiving/sending emails, palringo, etc. On my way back, I noticed my palringo service stopped working as I was entering Indian River county. I've called t-mobile but all they said was to do a hard-reset (which I did) and reflash your ROM (which I also did) and still nothing.

I'll keep you guys posted with anything else I can find involving this issue.

Alex
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tiaguis2:
Glad to find this thread!

I am also in SoFla and my internet stopped working on Friday Afternoon.

I have an AT&T Tilt, unlocked with TMobile. No flashed rom.

I thought installing Telenav had something to do with it, which I did on friday afternoon. But after reading this thread, I think is unrelated.

I just put a Sim Card of an AT&T Go phone and i was able to browse and email fine, so I guess the phone is fine.

Lets hope it gets fixed soon
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drizute:
S Florida

Same Issue Friday am, no Internet or any of the other data programs that I use, have no access to the net, connection hangs.

I think T-Mo is trying to SECURE their devices, as with AT+T having sold 2mil of Iphones but only a mill of users? This is I fear not an error, they are going to fix, and they are only too happy to see us struggling on decent devices. We have 17 lines with them, 3 MDA's11 Wings and 2 Tytans, the Tytans are the onlyones experiencing issues ???

PLEASE dont make me use a WING????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cprodigy18:
guys same here i live in south florida over in boynton beach area and my push email as well as internet explorer are doing the exact same things....i called tmobile and no help...ive done everything from flashing different roms to radios and manually changing the settings......NO LUCK! happened friday morning as well im using the att tilt unlocked...i put my sim into my wizard and wing and worked perfectly fine? im clueless about the issue hopefully we dont have to go back to our wings!:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vr24:
There is a CRAP LOAD of us having this issue. It's a South florida specific issue. I don't think t-mo is doing it on purpose either. There is nothing wrong with our phones, we can continue trying different settings but I think we just need to keep calling and harrassing the hell out of them until they fix it.

I don't want to go back to my god-forsaken wing either.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ManTheDan:
Same problem here, i can download my Yahoo email folders but no email, and ie wont browse, Just says Locating, opening then freezes there, Im in south florida too Miami, I already called Tmobile and told them to reset my data plan, still did nothing, im Using an Unlocked Tilit as well with Duttys RTM v4...I dont know whats going on, But all i know is the internet works fine on my dash...this is very fustrating!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cprodigy18:
guys i work for a tmobile retail store i dont think they'll be able to do anything today because the field tech's have the day off.....im going to call by buddy whose the manager of the field technicians in the morning and make him aware of the issue....im gunna try and get this solved for us guys hopefully within another 48 hours
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weebo523:
Everyone - as our thread grows, I decided to call T-mo today realizing I have a busy work day planned tomorrow. I explained everything, including this discussion, and after several hours and four call backs (yes he actually called ME back 4 times) from the tech rep asking me various questions, I now have an actual trouble ticket number. He said his supervisor requested that each of you also call, ask for internet support, ask for your own trouble ticket explaining that you have the same problem and need to link your trouble ticket to my ticket number. The number is 953057.

You might need to ask for tier 3 support - and explain all this. I was told that I will hear back from a field rep within 5 days. Since this is such an isolated problem, it's important that everyone calls and does this if we want them to work on it.

Good luck to us!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wyefye:
fyi...

just so you guys know, I'm using At&t, (in Maryland) and i have the same issue, just too lazy to fix it right now. this has happened to me plenty of times before. PIE fails miserable at even connecting to the internet, but opera works fine. this seems to more of an issue with the phone itself rather than the provider. given my (extensive) blackberry background that seems to crossover easily to the windows mobile world... try doing a hard reset, pulling the battery and letting it sit for a little while, perhaps an hour(i know it has an internal battery). try reflashing it too if your comfortable with that. try a different radio. even try using a different phone to verify the it is not the provider, i guarentee its the phone itself.

my 2c.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] elkavayo:
wyefye,

I don't think the issue you are experiencing is the same we south floridians are going through right now. At least in my case, it is not only PIE, I could say it's everything that uses port 80, including Opera Mobile 8.65.

The GPRS connection itself works fine, since through a terminal window I'm able to telnet to port 80 on any site. Many of us have not only "cleared storage", but also factory-reset our devices, flashed new ROMs, etc to no avail.

I'd really appreciate if you shared your secret with us, and God bless you if this fixes our problem.

Regarding other posts, I don't think this is something T-Mobile is doing on purpose. I don't think T-Mobile makes money on the handsets, which are heavily subsidized. They may have changed something but to be honest, I have no idea what could someone change on a network to make certain devices behave like that. I have played with the User-Agent in PIE and changed it to different values, but it did not help.

For most people it happened on Friday, this is my story:

- Wedndesday: no web browsing, I changed the DNS configurations and it started to work. Push Email (https) continued to work.

- Thursday: no web browsing. I reset the T-MO DNS and nothing. I deleted the connection and recreated it and it came back. Push Email (https) continued to work.

- (Black) Friday: no web browsing. Push Email contibued to work until approx 9:00 PM, after then, spotty. Called T-Mobile: Answer: Do Clear Storage

- Saturday: No web browsing. Called T-Mobile. Answer: they don't support my handset.

From then on, many restarts, resets, clear storage and different 3 firmwares have not helped.

Thanks weebo523, I'll call T-Mobile and ask them to link my case to this ticket number: 953057

Thanks,

Luis
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vr24:
Thanks for the input, I can assure you this is NOT the same issue though.

In the span of a couple days, virtually EVERYONE we know of in south florida with a tytn or tytn II have lost internet... It's not an isolated phone issue, especially since they are working in every other part of the country.

I thought about switching to AT&T, but their plans are so damn expensive!!!

Anyways, I'm calling T-Mo tomorrow, and thanks cprodigy, hopefully you can also assist in getting this issue resolved.

Again, no one here should think they would do this on purpose, especially since it's isolated, besides, losing hundreds if not thousands of service plans from pissed off people is hardly good for business and would equal the loss of hundreds of thousands if not millions in revenue over a single year for T-Mo, this is a serious issue and I'm sure it will be resolved sooner than later.

If you are on this thread and having issues in South Florida, please take the advice above, call, ask for Level 3, explain the situation, explain that everyone is having issues, and ask them to lookup and link to ticket number: 953057
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] elkavayo:
Ditto vr24, I thought about switching too, but I'm terrified with their plans, and also because I tried an ATT 3G SIM card on my phone on Friday and to be honest, it wasn't impressive, like when I switched from Dial-up to DSL (remember those days?) Also I'v found many people complaining about ATT's service. I've been with T-Mo since it was voicestream...quite a few years now, and I'm quite happy (other than their handsets are not the most modern on the market...)

I'm sure something was changed by mistake in T-Mo's. I'll call T-Mo today wth the ticket number...see what they come up with this time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] elkavayo:
Just wanted to confirm that th problem is not with our accounts or a network outage in South Florida. It is also not related with the use of unlocked or unsupported handsets, it is something specific to the Kaiser/TYTN II/Tilt.

I just used my SIM card in a Motorola MPX-220 (WM3) and a Nokia E61 (Symbian S60), none of them sold by T-Mobile, both unlocked, and the internet works correctly.

On the phone with T-Mobile now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drizute:
Not Just Tytan II

Hermes also affected
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dfmerida:
I have the same problem. I live in Miami. I have a HTC TyTNII with TMOBILE service. I noticed first the push email not working well a few weeks ago. Last week the device locked (could not access outlook email folder at all with SIM card installed). I did a hard reset and it started working again. The past few days email stopped working all together (it hangs on sync). IE now is not working at all as described above. I can sync with WiFi or PC connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] 1magine:
seems to be an Internet Explorer problem.

i just use Opera Mini 8.65 now and i browse the internet just fine now.