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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] custom:
You know things are getting bad when you start replying to your own posts!

Anyway i've just setup a google mail account for pop3 use and that works fine. Which kinda points to my ISP mail account settings but doesn't explain why they work fine on my HP4150! :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Tom Williams:
Ok, but that doesn't answer the question I asked.

Anyway the second comment does. I would check the SMTP server as that does nto sound like an SMTP server to me, that looks like the incoming server personally.

Otherwise I wonder if its worth trying the generic 3 smtp server? If they have one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] custom:
The 3 setting were done automaticly by the network wizard, the email account details were setup manually and the device is HTC sim free and unlocked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Tom Williams:
Ok. Thats simple enough.

Does the demon email account need SSL or anything?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] custom:
Here are the demon setting, they work fine on my HP, and on outlook 2007 on my desktop machine.

http://http://www.demon.net/helpdesk/technicallibrary/misc/numbers/

I'll see if i can fine some 3 server setting and give thoughs ago.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] custom:
Not to my knowledge and i have tried switching in on and off and it made now difference!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] custom:
I'm really not getting anywhere with this fast! I've done a hard reset just in case any other programs are settings were causing problem and i still can't get it to work!

I've also managed to setup my pop3 account on a N95 and that works fine just like my HP4150 does, it has to be something on the tytn! :mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hicks:
I used to work for Thus/Demon a couple of years ago, strangely enough. Their SMTP server only accepts incoming connections from Demon IP ranges - you can only send if you are connected using a Demon connection. i.e. this would only work if you are connected at home over wifi.

I just tested this from my work computer and this is still the case - I got an SMTP 550 error saying the service is unavailable from [my work IP address]. This would explain why you can't connect over HSDPA, but wouldn't explain why you can't connect over wifi at home.

You could try downloading PocketPutty and try using telnet to connect to post.demon.co.uk on port 25 - it should give you a more meaningful message than simply telling you your connection is not working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] custom:
That might explain a few things, Thanks, We use demon as our work ISP to and i've only tested my HP4150 and N95 at the office and at home. I do get the 550 error in the rejected email from demon also! But as you say you would expect the tytn to work on wifi and i have tried it with phone turned off.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] LDJ:
Well if its any consolation i've never managed to send a single email since I bought my device. I'm on T-Mobile in the UK and my ISP is Nildram, and I can check email from any POP3 account just fine, but when I try to send anything I get the same error message as you. I've tried every conceivable combination of phone settings, connection settings, SMTP servers and NOTHING has ever worked. Thought I was missing something obvious but now im not to sure!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] custom:
That makes me feel a little better! :) I think i'm gona do a bit more digging and see if i can find a work around.

I was thinking of maybe trying a newer radio rom to see if that has any effect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hicks:
What IP address does it say after the 550 error? You might not want to share it here for security reasons ;) but www.samspade.org will let you do a whois on it. This will let you know if the device IS actually connecting on the demon connection, or if for some reason it is not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] custom:
Sorry I've made a slight mistake, The 550 relay not permitted email only occurs if i switch off "outgoing server requires authentication" there are no IP address attached to this.

With authentication on a window pops up on completion of sync saying "The message could not be sent check network coverage and that account info is correct"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] custom:
I've just tried to use pocket putty and to be honest i think it might be a bit out of my league! I tried to open a telnet connection on post.demon.co.uk port 25 and just got a black screen! :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] LDJ:
Did you ever manage to resolve this as I've still not been able to send a SINGLE email :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Antal:
Hi, Im having about the same issue here for the last weeks or so...

POP3 mail of my host Chello does get delivered to my PPC, but nothing gets sent out! (Hotmail works, internet works etc)

Got an errormessage at first; 550 bla bla

Yesterday a new errormessage 551 Mail from your IP is currently blocked based on RBL listing.

Found out that the IP adress of my tytn II is on a blacklist of spamcop!

(Chello advised me to keep my PPC from connecting to the internet for 72 hours, that would get the listing away)

Now I am wondering...... Could this... by any chance.... have anything to do with the new WM 6.1 roms? Problems started (for me) when flashing the first roms... Are IP Adresses handled diffrently in the new roms? Just wondering ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bigwig001:
Nice to see that others are having this same issue. Mulitple ROMS, multiple radios, unable to send SMTP messages. Has there been any update to this issue?

ATT Tilt

Multiple ROMS and Radios
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ohnophone:
Just to confirm what Hicks said:

Most ADSL or dial up service providers (in the UK at least) will only process SMTP outgoing mail if it originates on their network - i.e. if you are connected to the Internet via Demon you can send mail out using Demon's SMTP mail servers. If however you are connected via BT or as here one one of the mobile phone companies Demon will not accept the connection. Ostensibly this is to stop spammers from other networks sending their mail out through their SMTP servers. I suspect they also see an economic benefit in reducing the amount of mail they handle.

The solution is to do one of two things.

Either use the SMTP mail server of the mobile phone company concerned (if they have one).

or

sign up with one of the many third party companies that provide a POP3 mail service and usually and SMTP mail server that can be accessed from anywhere. Most domain registrars/hosts provide such services for a few pounds a year.

The best thing is to register a domain as well and then you are completely independent of the service provider or phone company you are using.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] neil74:
I have something similar with my orange.net account. I know the settings are correct (username, password, incoming and outgoing server) yet it is hit and miss in downloading incoming emails and will not send emails at all. I also cannot send from this account from my macbook

The weird thing is my current TY TNII is a replacement for one that I broke and on the last handset it worked fine (send and recieve) I have given up trying to figure it out! I have 2 other accounts for my business (1and1) and they both work just fine too.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] mikebz5:
What audio dac chip does the Note 8 use? Former note 5 and 7 owner here. I love the dac on my LG v20(note 7 replacement)! Will I be disappointed when my note 8 arrives?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jadaress1:
Coming from the lg v20 u probably will be.. I've owned must top end galaxy phones and the DAC does let me down, its not awful but nowhere near as good as the lg ot htc...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] teegunn:
The S8+ DAC is great. I am no audiophile, and can't compare to the V20, but it sounds great to me. And I believe the same DAC from the S8 is in the N8. I think there was another thread here that had that info earlier today or yesterday.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
I have the LG V20 and the Note FE, the V20 is in a different league when compared to last year's Note.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] teegunn:
Like I said I can't compare to the V20. The S8+ seems to have better sound than the Note 7, and I expect the Note 8 to also have better sound since the Note 8 is the same as the DAC on the S8+ (I believe). Whether it is on par with the V20 I can't say and from others have said here doubtful the Note 8 will be as good as the V20 in this area. But for me it is more than good enough if it's on par with the S8+.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] EvoKnvl:
I've had the Note 7, V20, and S8+. I can say that the N7 audio sucked. The V20 was amazing. The S8+ sounds just as good from what I can tell. When I got the N7, it was terrible. I was afraid that the S8+ would be equally bad, but it's not. It's a world of difference. I'm using Westone W4R between all 3 devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
My wife has a Galaxy S8 and with high res music above CD quality the V20 is much better.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Hi, the V20 had quad ES92B ESS Sabre DAC's. In terms of technical sound reproduction the V20, on paper, is superior to the Cirrus logic (Formally known as Wolfson) DAC on the Exynos Note 8 however............. IN terms of sound reproduction there are numerous factors that affect the end result IE, what we hear.

The amplification process and, of course, the ear buds or head phones in terms of a mobile device. Not to mention the source material and the ambient we are trying to listen in.

In general the V20 should outshine the Note 8 IF all parameters are equal. In real life seldom are said parameters equal. To that end to truly hear the difference we would need to be in a studio with identical volume presets, head phones, high end source material and music genre.

For a mobile device that is not really meant to compete with dedicated Hi-res portable players costing hundreds of euros, I think most of us including the so called audiophiles like me will be happy taking into consideration we won't have to carry around a second device. I guess its the same with the cameraphiles who will be happy with taking less accurate pictures BUT not having the need to carry a dedicated canon DSLR?

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Pubbaa:
apologize for the following question-

how does note 8 stack up against htc10,...i know i know it's a silly question, yet curious, i haven't tried the v20 quad dac ... people highly praise it though

i'm just a simpleton ...i was earlier a edge plus user, had to switch because of samsung not giving memory slot.

music+camera are my main priorities , but miss the deep blacks of sAMOLED.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] @home:
What about bluetooth audio?

I use a Samsung bluetooth dongle with high quality earphones & the FE sounds fine. How about the V20 or Note 8?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] chazglenn3:
Good question. Does the Note 8 have Apt X?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
V20 has aptx HD which is amazing as long as you a headset that supports aptx HD. I don't believe the Note8 will have aptx HD as Samsung use their own UHQ codec.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] @home:
The s8+ had Atpx, so the note 8 should have.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] allargon:
It will be a looooong time if ever before phones catch up to DSLR's. It will be a long time before phones catch up to dedicated audio players, because as you said they can't provide the necessary amplification (especially without significant distortion).

Back on topic, if the international Note 8's carry the Cirrus logic DAC's, what will the US (Qualcomm 835) Note 8's carry? What does the US S8/S8+ carry? I assume it will be the same. The V30 and it's quad DAC comes out soon, too. I don't think the Note 8 will match that one, either. However, I want my S-pen. So, I just want to be good. I don't expect V30 greatness.

Back off topic, a few people mentioned AptX in this thread. AptX makes Bluetooth audio less awful, but it's no replacement for a quality DAC and wired headphones. It shouldn't even be part of this discussion.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
Aptx and AptxHD are two different things. As far as I'm aware, AptxHD is only available for Snapdragon SoCs, so the international Note 8s will almost certainly not have AptxHD.

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Very true but that wasn't his point. The cameras and audio output for phones have advanced to the point where they're 85% as good as dedicated devices (DSLRs and audio players) and most people can't justify carrying another bulky, inconvenient device just to get that extra 15% performance gain. Maybe the Note 8 camera(s) can't match the latest DSLR cameras but it might be a match for a DSLR from 5 years ago, which is still pretty damn good and exceeds most people's needs.

I was tossing up between getting the Note 8 and the V30 because whilst I wouldn't say I'm an audiophile, I do like my music to sound awesome. The Quad DAC was pretty tempting but none of the major carriers in Australia stock LG phones (except Telstra and **** that) so I would've had to buy it outright. There's also the matter of perspective. I'm coming from a Note 3, so while the DAC in the Note 8 will undoubtedly be inferior to the DAC in the V30, it will still be a huge step up from what I'm used to. If I want some extra oomph in my music, I'll use my Fiio Q1 (and Viper4Android).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
I know that aptx and aptx HD are different! Aptx HD headphones are very rare. The aptx codec is not limited to certain SoC as the headphones i have are not SD!

See this about Android O and LDAC and aptx.HD

http://www.androidauthority.com/bluetooth-audio-android-o-758401/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Torquemada288:
Sorry, you are correct. Aptx HD is a Qualcomm product and I naturally assumed that phones that don't use a Qualcomm SoC wouldn't have this ability. My bad.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Pako7:
Sound chip in Note8 (SM-N950F) - Cirrus CS47L92
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] cpufrost:
Yes the HTC10 could drive headphones harder than ANY portable device on its own that I used and sounded pretty good at it too.

And the faded looking LCD is the reason why I punted it. Compared to my Note5 it made me sick.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Hi, Thanks for the reply. I don't know for sure what the snap dragon use I understand they have their own system and the DAC is possibly part of the SD processor? This would need research and as I will be purchasing the International Xynos mobile I don't follow the SD programme. Sorry I cant be helpful on the SD mobiles.

Regards, Ryland.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Pubbaa:
Is it just me or the LG v30 is packing everything we want

Amoled + quad dac + storage + amazing video capabilities.

Do fear the issue of boot loops.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
No boot loops in my V20 so sure V30 will be okay. Audio with high res music on the V20 is amazing. I'll wait for a V30 price drop before looking to buy. I use the S Pen a lot and sync with my Tab S3 so prefer the Note8.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Pubbaa:
It's the great battle

Note 8 the powerful produtivity phone Vs v30 the ultimate multimedia consumption and creator tool.

Lol....i barely used the note 3's s pen.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Sattero:
Well if you are not using S Pen there is no reason to pay full price now especially when you want something else from the phone - like the best audio quality.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Not at all. The concept behind the Note series as opposed to the S series is the S-pen.

The new stunning LG does not come with an S-pen so should not appeal to the Note user?

If one doesn't need nor use the S-pen the Note series makes zero sense as a purchase option.

I own the SGS8+ had it from day one BUT it doesn't have what I desire that being the S-pen. If I didn't use the S-pen why on earth would I, after just four months, be shelling out 1,020.00€ on another mobile that is very similar in many respects to what I already own? Answer....the S-pen.

I see the new LG as sincere, strong competition to the SGS8 now that is another debate. As I dislike the curved side front screen on the latest iterations of flagship Samsung mobiles due to the inability to purchase any sort of half decent screen protector, I would plug for the 'flat screen' LG every day over the SGS8 especially as I use my mobile as a portable audio device and on paper the LG should, with other things being equal, outperform the Samsung range in terms of Audio excellence?

Again, if the pen is not at the top of ones needs it is a positive financial mistake to purchase the Note range.

WHO goes and buys a two seat sports convertible as the sole

family car

when they have a wife, three kids, two dogs and live in Alaska? :silly:

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
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See this Pocket Now audio review of the LG V30. Mentions even the V20 was a great match for dedicated audio players.

[youtube]PCGmMdgVEcQ[/youtube]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] marctronixx:
Hmmm

Cats saying it makes zero sense to purchase a note8 if one does not use the s pen is ridiculous, with all due respect.

The note8 can stand on its own as a full featured phone sans s pen. I knew about the v20/v30 but went with the note8 because of the large screen, curved display and latest tech.

From what i gather, the v30's screen is smaller than the note8, and for me the larger screen is more important.

I'm not going to edit long format films and do CAD work on a smartphone, so the hardware on the note8 without even thinking about the s pen is plenty for me.

Just depends on what one wants in a device. I looove LG's He washer/dryers because i have some and also their 4K monitors are nice, but im not yet warmed up to their phones. Maybe the v40? :cowboy::p
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] cpufrost:
It's sweet for sure, just wish it had 6GB RAM!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Can you explain why the 'Note' is called the Note and why Samsung introduced it IF its not about the S-pen? I am not really following you train of logic here?

The same model car will come in numerous variants, each variant will appeal to different buyers. Why spend 15,000€ more on the off road variant if one never intends to go.....'off road'. Hey, I agree its all about choice and I am very pleased you like the Note. I speak in general though and not specifics and to that end, with respect, the note series is about taking notes with the S-pen. No confrontation here. The bigger screen is also reason for some to buy but .1" difference would make you pay perhaps 450€ more? Again I sincerely respect your choice. Where I beg to differ is your philosophy that the Note series is not geared to the S-pen, on that one point I cannot agree.

Its nice to debate this point with you and thanks for the reply. :good:

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] marctronixx:
No i cant. I dont work for their marketing team. This is also my first samsung device and I picked it up for the large screen, 6gb ram and latest hardware inside. The s pen is superfluous for me in my use but i may use it once i get the product.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Like you I am no expert on Samsung either. :highfive: To the best of my knowledge all Note series mobiles have the S-pen. I have owned all but one iteration that being the Note 5 that was not sold in Europe. The Note 5 had the S-pen.

I also totally respect your choice to buy the Note 8 and not use the pen. I only differ when you write the Note series is not about the Note S-pen.

BTW welcome to Samsung. Though I buy all brands of mobile I find Samsung at present are one of my preferred mobile brands. If this is your first Samsung then make sure you are wearing very good shoes as the Note 8 will blow your socks off! :victory:

Nice to debate with you. Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] RaymondPJR:
I like the S-Pen too, but if I didn't care about it I'd still choose the Note 8 over the S8-S8+ because of that extra ram and the two cameras.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] RojasTKD:
The Note 8 will very likely not have the same music chops of the V20 or the V30, BUT the S8 saw Samsung take a step foward in the audio dept from the models prior. So there is some small consolation there.

If you already own the V20, I'd keep it to use as a dedicated music player. That will also help save some battery on you main phone, even if you use you Note 8 for music also when it not convenient of feasible to use the V20.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
Once you've used aptx HD on the move non aptx HD set up really is not great.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
Quote from Android Authority

"For external audio, the Note 8 doesn’t offer anything special and this has been a weakness of a lot of Samsung smartphones over the years. The Note 8 comes with a single bottom-firing speaker that is easily muffled by the palm of your hand when holding the phone in landscape and the audio quality can sound distorted at max volume. It’s certainly a serviceable speaker but audio is clearly an area that Samsung doesn’t put too much emphasis on improving. For those that expect more out of their smartphone audio, consider the
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] PsiPhiDan:
As a former V20 user, I was very underwhelmed by that phone. The camera was highly touted but was disappointing in normal daily usage (slow shutter compared to others). Within a month, I found the device quite sluggish and generally didn't feel like a premium device anymore. I was hyped for that phone but the only thing I felt delivered was the audio.

So I don't buy into the V30 hype for the same reasons and went with the Note 8. The Pixel XL 2 is the only phone that I think I could regret not waiting for, but the lack of information on it (especially regarding waterproofing, price, headphone jack) have me going back to the Note series for this unbelievable price.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Aaaargh:
I recently bought the V20 replacement for a Note 4. Generally the sound is much better whichever type of device I listen on. Even through Bluetooth the sound is transformed, better frequencies, separation and clarity. I'm not sure if this is due to the superior audio components or the updated Bluetooth or a combination of the two. Although I regarded myself as a confirmed Note user I won't be giving up the V20 until I'm happy any Note is at least nearly equal to it sonically.