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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
They refer to physical speaker quality and that we can all agree upon. Samsung lost the plot with, yet again, one external speaker. Purchase a decent pair of ear buds or 'usable' headphones and My SGS8+ offers a very pleasing sound stage.

Ryland

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This is simply a massive subject and needs a book not a forum. You will not, at present, find any bluetooth device that produces a sound stage as well as a non bluetooth set up. Not yet.

The new LG V30

ON PAPER

does sonically outperform any and every other present day mobile smart phone.

IN REALITY one would need exact headphones, exactly the same genre of music, same level of volume and be in a sound booth and posses identical hearing capabilities to tell the difference. Get ten audiophiles is a listening room and you will get ten different opinions. Why? Ten different sets of ears with then different sound stage pre requisites.

IF one is a complete audiophile then one may well tell the difference BUT as a self professed audiophile I don't place unreasonable expectations on a mobile phone. I use a dedicated portable hi-res player IF I want that level of hi performing sound stage.

Its a very subjective and difficult matter to debate fully on a forum given the space and forum limitations to do so.

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] spydermunkie:
V30

The V30 uses P-OLED not the AMOLED that Samsung uses.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ramheer:
Tbh in my experience the s8 DAC gives a better sound than the LG v20. Both use 32bit but the v20 uses a more powerful amp so I can use high resistance headphones on it such as the sennheiser HD 600. The s8 amp can't power those but when using a low impedance headphone they sound better than the v20. High impedance headphones sound better on the v20.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] RojasTKD:
Personally it's not that big an deal to me. I don't use the device's speakers to listen to music, for that I use headphones or external BT speakers. Just make it loud enough that I can understand what's being said in YouTube videos and I'm satisfied. Having great speakers would be nice and a fantastic bonus, but not a deal breaker for me.

My Axon 7 excels with it's dual front facing stereo speakers. It is really best in class, but I till not going to use them to listen to music.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] EarlZ:
I have a FiiO K1 paired with a Magaosi K3 Pro, I hope the Note 8 DAC is decent so i dont have to carry my K1 anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
I'm not expecting anything special. I'll use my LG V20 for hi res music playback.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Samsung use a very decent internal DAC as I wrote in previous posts.

If you use an external DAC via the charging port, on paper, it should make a difference to the sound stage as an external DAC used via the charging port bypasses the internal DAC of the mobile and being isolated from internal 'noise' should produce a purer whiter sound stage.

Sorry this post is partly hypothetical but the world of technology is full of exceptions and music reproduction and sound stage is so personal and subjective.

The golden rule is

'use your own ears'.

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] @home:
Don't Samsung use a separate DAC with the Exynos devices, while SD devices use the awful SD audio chip?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Yes. See my previous posts in this thread for detailed information. :good:

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] marctronixx:
what we know. Qualcomm WCD9341 Aqstic audio codec

Source: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/features/aqstic

Specs are on that page as well. good reading...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
Pocket Now agree with you ; they know their Smartphone audio

https://youtu.be/oZ1t7Xovrio
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] RojasTKD:
Yep, i based my opinion on their S8 review. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] rbeavers:
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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Snapdragon 835 version only, NOT Exynos 8895. The Exynos version runs a Cirrus logic-Wolfson DAC.

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Oyeve:
The V20 will sound better than the Note 8 ONLY if you can trip the quad HD which MOST headphones will NOT do. The older V10 you could force it to trip and yes, it sounded great. Can't do that with SW on the V20. So, if you have high impedance cans on the V20 and it activates the quad dac they will sound great. If the quad dac on the V20 only kicks into normal settings if will sound mediocre at best. In general, I find the Note 8 to be slightly better than the V20 with the many pairs of headphones I use in standard V20 quad dac mode. My higher impedance cans, IF they activate the quad dac on the V20 (50 50 shot) sound great and I generally will not have to use my external Fiio DAC. But, the Note 8 is an overall much beter device than my V20 so I will drawer the V20 (or sell it) and stay with the Note 8.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] @rbiter:
Don't know what you're smoking. All my cans and buds sound great low impedance or high impedance.

Sent from my LGV20 using yo Mama's unlocked bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
That would be impossible.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] @rbiter:
Lower noise floor and amp kicking in with high impedance? Solid sound with low impedance? [emoji12]

Sent from my LGV20 using yo Mama's unlocked bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
Happy to report the Exynos version of the Note8 has the best audio of any samsung device I've tried. Seems better over UHQ BT. But I still think the weak point is the head amp. I would happy listening to my FLAC collection with Note8 if I did not have my LG V20.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Ryland Johnson:
Only received mine today and have yet to test it. Maybe tomorrow?

Ryland
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] NamelessFragger:
Snapdragon-based Samsung devices use the SoC's embedded DAC; there's been threads on how to get better quality out of it before on past devices, but it requires root and some system modification. I forgot exactly what the mod was named, but I'm pretty sure it was headlined here on the XDA main page before.

Exynos devices, as stated above, use a dedicated DAC. Gotta say, those Wolfson DACs make people's ears perk up from the mere mention of the name, be it phones or old iPods. To think my old Dell Axim X50v had one too...

Bluetooth audio quality depends more on codec support between devices than anything, because the DAC is at the speaker/headphone end. Alas, even higher-end codecs like aptX are lossy and inherently discard information in the signal to fit within limited BT bandwidth.

Also worth noting is that Android has supported USB audio interfaces for years. I bet there's more than one audiophile that's taken advantage of that to pair a DAC/amp with their phone. Would be trivial with something like an ODAC that needs no specialized drivers.

As for me, the Note 8's headphone output is good enough for me. No obvious distortion, gets plenty loud on typical IEMs. I'm not exactly the sort to spend hundreds or even thousands on a portable Audeze or Stax setup, let alone those custom IEMs with like five balanced armatures in each one, requiring custom ear molds so that they're tailored to you specifically.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Dark Jedi:
I have a V20 also and the note 8 can't touch what the V20 dac can do. I have 50 ohms headsets and while they sound good on the note 8. They are just not loud enough. Plug the same headsets in my V20 and they are much louder. Lower ohms ear buds sounds good on the note 8.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] eldar4uk:
note8 DAC is ok for beyerdynamic dt 770 250 ohm headphones? I heard that they are for audio interfaces only
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
As i said, i was surprised how good the Note8 is. Not as good as the V20 especially the headamp. But over BT using UHQ Samsung headphones the reproduction is actually very good. Have not received my Sony NW ZX300, Amazon let me down.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
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UHQ BT codec better than Aptx but not as good as Aptx HD or LDAC.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] @home:
Are you using the Samsung Music player, Google music or Poweramp
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jah:
I've used Samsung and Google as they both work with Samsung's UHQ over BT. I have the Level On Pro headphones. On my V20 the Qobuz player is better than the LG native player.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] RojasTKD:
I'm not so sure. I think the only difference with the headphone impedance is the power output of the AMP. I do think my V20 spoons better with my low impedance iSine's than the Note 8. The Note 8 is a nice improvement over my LG G5 and Nexus P, both which are some of the worst modern smartphones for audio.

Most low impedance headphone wouldn't benefit from high impedence mode. I wish they would let you manually toggle on and off, like low and high gain switch. I think some low impedance headphone might benefit. My iSine 10s ate planar magnetic and i think a lilt extra power would help a bit worth the low end punch, maybe.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] rascal0pl:
How about audio volume? I'm planning to buy international Note 8 variant (exynos). Now I have S7 and stock audio is WAY TOO quiet. My phone is rooted, so it's not a problem - simple mixer_gains.xml edit was enough to provide excellent quality and acceptable loudness for my high impedance headphones, but I'm worried about it in note 8 case, because I don't want to root so expensive device like this. Smartphone is my primary audio player.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] eldrid:
I recently moved from the V20 to the Note 8. I am by no means an audiophile but like music to sound good. My definition of good will probably differ from yours, but generally, i prefer a bassier/warmer sound. I use my phone primarily to listen to MP3s and youtube. As I am no audiophile I don't really care much about listening to HiFi music and I assume neither does an average consumer. If you listen primarily to compressed music, sound cloud, youtube etc the Note 8 (Exynos version with the Cirrus CS47L92) should be good enough. In fact, i couldn't tell much of a difference between the note 8 and the v20 with low impedance consumer grade earphones. I use the Uiissii T8 dual driver earphones and I love the sound these produce. Also, after enabling the UHQ upscaler and customising the sound under Adapt Sound on the Note 8 my music at times sounds better than it did on the V20. I had bought the V20 primarily for the audio and camera but realized I am too much of an average consumer to use either of these to their full potential on the V20. I prefer snapping photos in auto mode and the note 8 does a far better job than the V20, in fact, the V20 was a bit of a disappointment in auto mode with its overprocessing and blurry shots in low light; it was not even as good as the previous G4. Given that I use my phone as my main travel camera, I couldn't stand using the v20 anymore. The overall package that the Note8 offers is far better in my opinion. The only things I miss from the V20 are the wide angle camera and the swappable battery. Dont get me wrong, the V20 is a fantastic phone if you're an enthusiast willing to use its manual camera and listen to uncompressed high-quality music on premium high impedance cans. Else you're not missing out on much.

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I find the volume to be more than adequate. The trick I use is going to the equaliser and pushing all bars up a bit so they're still flat but they're all up. This works well on regular consumer grade earphone. Not so sure if this will work satisfactorily on high impedance earphones.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] madmos:
I pulled this info from the Qualcomm website:

Audio performance on the Samsung Galaxy Note8 is greatly improved over previous generations with the inclusion of the Qualcomm Aqstic™ audio codec (WCD9341) and Qualcomm® aptX™ HD. The WCD9341 is the next-generation industry leading 40nm audio codec, which supports Hi-Fi quality audio with PCM up to 384kHz/32bit @ 130db dynamic range and THD+N @ -109db right out of the high-quality headphone jack. aptX HD delivers 24-bit audio over a Bluetooth wireless connection. As well as accepting a 24-bit audio input, 24-bit audio resolution is maintained by using an extra two bits in each of the four sub-bands of processing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] RockStar2005:
Hi everyone,

Question. I own the LG V30, but I just found out about the "Adapt Sound" feature on the recent Samsung phones.

What I wanna know is, has anyone in here compared the V20 (or V30) to the S8/Note 8/S9 WITH Adapt Sound enabled?? If so, please reply back with your experience comparing them. Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] RojasTKD:
Never tried the adaptive sound feature before, but just have it a go as I have a V20 I use as a portable DAP and backup to my dedicated actual DAP.

Adaptive sound does make the Note 8 sounds noticable better. I still think the V20 superior and cleaner sounds. I will keep using the V20 (eventually a V40) as a music device, but nice to know my Note can be more enjoyable if I need to use it.

If you looking for just one device, it's going to depend how much the extra audio quality means to you. If I could only have one device it would be the Note, it's a phone and productivity on the go device first and foremost for me.

The great thing about the V20/V30 for me relative to my dedicated DAP, iBasso DX150, is that it's so thin and convenient to carry I don't mind carrying both.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] RockStar2005:
Hey Rojas,

Ok very cool! Thanks for trying it out and comparing to V20. Much appreciated!!

Yeah those are the results I was expecting. NOT better than V20/V30, but better than not using Adaptive Sound feature.

Well I was just asking for general use. For me sound quality IS huge. Now that Samsung owns Harman Kardon (which also owns AKG, among other companies), I like that they are using AKG to tune their phone speakers (S9 and Note 9 anyway) AND offering AKG ear buds and even better on Note 9 the N60 ftw! Adaptive Sound is great too, though not sure AKG had anything to do with it? But what I'm REALLLLYYY waiting for is for Samsung to wise the F up and use AKG to tune their headphone audio output. I'm hoping on Note 9 or else S10 this will FINALLY be the case. Then perhaps my hatred of them will finally die out? LOL (They seemed to have at least fixed the color accuracy issue with screen and photos per recent reviews. Plus their phones looks so much nicer vs. S5. lol)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] drbveb88:
This is like the 1080p vs 4k debate. You need to listen to hi res music consistently. Listen to songs you have listen too for years and hear sounds you never heard before. Thats when you notice the differences in detail and really appreciate quality hi res music.

1080 p is good! But 4k is another level of detail and richness. The more you watch the more you appreciate it.
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] WhyOrean:
Dragons will return with Oreo ;)
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] WhyOrean:
hey all !

Kindly test this ROM and report me back if found any issue, we will fix the issues and move to Optimizations phase (DragonsTC (by [MENTION=5051294]frap129[/MENTION] & [MENTION=2699658]xanaxdroid[/MENTION]), UBER-TC, 03 and Graphite) + Kernel Goodies

Do leave suggestions if any.
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] WhyOrean:
#Reserved
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] ab7casper:
First, and sounds nice!
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] cloudslash7:
Looks neat! Does this require data to be decrypted?
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] tusharjain95:
Do both the cameras work?
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] WhyOrean:
Flash ROM + Magisk, you should be fine with Encrypted device (Untested) :)

I dont find anyway to check n confirm it, check it and let me know :)
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] gouthamgoumi:
Neato!welcome to the community [MENTION=5678465]WhyOrean[/MENTION].:cheers:
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] dispatcher2412:
This rom doesn't boot on an encrypted device.
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] WhyOrean:
Well thanks mate to confirm it, will sort it out in future build. ;)

[MENTION=6592760]gouthamgoumi[/MENTION] Thanks Mate
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] dispatcher2412:
No problem. I have no problem testing for you. Anything to help a developer out.
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] HatRiGt:
Thanks for the new rom
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] VampireHeart:
Just tried but it boot with Dual Boot Patcher on my encrypted device and I can't access to my internal storage.

Strangely if flash normally it won't boot, remaining on bootlogo. :eek:

So I think that don't work on encrypted devices.
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] liver20:
Awesome!

Enviado desde mi ONEPLUS A5000 mediante Tapatalk
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] NickMidd91:
Love this ROM hope it brings android Oreo to it will be flow less
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] NickMidd91:
Need help egerytime my Samsung gear s3 smartwatch is connected to my op5 with this ROM I can't hear anyone when they call me.
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] WhyOrean:
I'm working on it

Acknowledged, will look unto it.

Sure, will move to Oreo when CAF releases 8.0 branches
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] WhyOrean:
#Update : New build is up

Changelog :

* Bring in new apps : MusixFX, Clock
* Added new system wide vector icons
* UI/UX overhaul
* Sync DT with OOS 4.5.8
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] necosino:
Has anyone tested media and calls over Bluetooth? Seems like the audio routing for calls is messed up in a lot of non-OOS ROMs.
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] NickMidd91:
Yes they only come threw the speaker phone of the phone not the car or Bluetooth speaker
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] oF2pks:
Is latest patched for MultiROM https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=72925722&postcount=3

Also on previous, embedded Photo Editor launch & crash (Gallery + Camera), and hardware buttons were inverted (like h2os).
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] WhyOrean:
1. Gallery - Edit Activity is fine now

2. MultiROM patch will do in next build soon
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] VampireHeart:
Tryed to install on my encrypted device, also new build don't boot, i see only the android animated text but don't go forward, so i think that this rom work only on decrypted devices, i'm right?
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] morfances:
Work only on decripted devices?
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] VampireHeart:
I think that work only on decrypted, usually I test a rom before with Dual Boot Patcher and like others rom Boot but can't see internal storage.

If you try to install normally with twrp it don't boot.
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] morfances:
[MENTION=5678465]WhyOrean[/MENTION] It would be better then to specify it in OP
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] WhyOrean:
#Update : New build is up !

1. Fixed Encryption Issue
2. Kernel Upstream
[OnePlus 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] VampireHeart:
Thanks for your work, ROM boot with my encrypted device now.

I noticed one big in camera, usually if I try to take a shot it seem not respond and if I push home button I see the image of camera on home page.

The only solution to close it is to go in multitasking and close.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] jerflash:
DELETE Duplicate
[Moto Maxx Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Iago Duarte:
Hey guys, i have a problem, my Bootloader is locked and i can't access my recovery, and there is no rom installed, what should i do now? i can't access Developer options to Allow OEM unlock because there is no OS.

am i screwed? or there is something i can do?
[Moto Maxx Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChazzMatt:
Did you ever enable developer options and allow USB debugging? If so, and you can connect to ADB on a PC, you can flash stock firmware back onto the phone.

or try this:

However, with locked bootloader there is no room for error in flashing firmware via ADB or you will brick the phone. You have to flash the correct firmware exactly for your phone, with the same level of bootloader you already have or newer. You can't flash Mexico over Brazil or Lollipop over Marshmallow. Has to be exactly what was made for your phone, either what you already had or newer (if it exists).

What OS was installed before?

But WHY is there no ROM installed? What did you do?
[Moto Maxx Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Iago Duarte:
The OS installed before was the most recent Stock MM Brazil, i installed the stock rom, it worked, then i wanted to go back to stock recovery, it it worked too, then i wanted to locked my bootloader, i locked, after that i couldn't enter recovery, neither boot to OS.
[Moto Maxx Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChazzMatt:
You wanted to re-lock your bootloader? Unlocked bootloader = God mode.

Did you ever have TWRP? You said you wanted to go back to "stock recovery" (not sure why, it's mostly useless compared to TWRP custom recovery.)

I'm not sure why re-locking the bootloader would wipe the OS...

But you can boot to the bootloader screen using the volume and power button and re-flash the stock firmware, using ADB. Here's the link to the newest Brazil Marshmallow for XT1225:

http://ftpeil.eil.com.br/vip/motoro...S24.107-70.2-7_cid12_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml/

This guy below got out of a jam because he had an unlocked bootloader, which is very forgiving. Locked bootloader is harder.

https://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/help/maxx-xt1225-br-hard-brick-help-please-t3661803
[Moto Maxx Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Iago Duarte:
Yeah, i don't know what happened either, why the **** did my OS got Wiped?

Can i flash the stock rom with the bootloader locked via ADB? how?