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[LG V30 Real Life Review] kbuss:
lol hehe :D :D you mean LG official support? well good luck with that. im pretty sure that no developers work on this phone (except Pie update), they already work on v50...

(im in EU)

and just that you mention it, yes! i get the pixelated sky too! i think its called banding. your phone is not defect.

my short experience showed that it is better in cine or LOG mode, but then you have double the work with editing

also LG has no official lut files for editing these 10bit videos so that way its very little use for anyone cos you have to guesswork it.

i just didnt bothered with the sky bcos as you can hear in my video, the stuttering audio is a much bigger problem and very annoying

unable to get decent ambient audio for my vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdD44Y4vZSM&t=9

even bigger problem:

1. the tech bloggers who praised this phone are obviously payed, a person who vlogs and make videos regularly, theres no way they didnt see these problems. It shoud be their job to point out these problems from the free phones they get, so we users, who pay hard earned money, wont have the chore of returning/exchanging the phone.

2. i got my problem up into the QA section, and im pretty sure that nobody uses this phone for semi pro video, cos someone would answer on a global forum...

seems like LG made a so called "semi pro audio/video" phone that just doesnt work in real life...
[LG V30 Real Life Review] ChazzMatt:
Professional reviewers for magazines and websites get phones for review but have to return them. Same with guns, cars, stereos...

For private tech bloggers maybe there are different rules.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] kbuss:
disagree. I as a normal user, found audio/video problems with this phone, that was advertised as a semi pro video/vlogger phone, that are just unacceptable.

also A/B-ed it with a S8+ and the samsung makes way better videos in every way.

the lut/log mode is bull**** bcos it has no official way to implement it in video editors. (no official luts)

its no use storing in various uncompressed/10bit formats when the source just doesnt have the dinamic range/quality

the only tihing that worked as hyped was the HD Audio Recorder, which had almost studio quality very nice sound with low hiss.

i find it very hard to believe that vloggers who edit videos every day, doesnt see these problems immediately.

too bad i was biased for the phone for its aspect ratio and looks. but the other stuff doesnt live up to the hype at all.

its obvious to me that no people here use the phone for videography (that it was advertised for) cos more than 1 week has passed and no one put up a link for a video with similar sound.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] ChazzMatt:
You actually didn't disagree with anything I said. ;). I think you didn't read what I said.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Real Life Review] kbuss:
my point was that they arent pointing out the obvious flaws as honestly as they "should"

the reason for that is clear to me...

i watched 20, maybe 30 reviews of this phone.

lot of them say they arent sponsored etc

and I was always like.... if this phone is so good in video, how come theres hardly any short films or cuts made with it on Youtube...?

ESPECIALLY not with luts.

but whatever its ancient history
[LG V30 Real Life Review] ChazzMatt:
What I was refuting was your allegation reviewers got "free" phones for a good review.

My point was professional reviewers for established publications/websites (CNET/ZDNET/Forbes, Android Police, etc.) can't/don't accept money or keep the devices they review. It's against the rules of journalism.

However, those people who have YouTube channels or are only semi-pro bloggers may not adhere to such rules.

Even though you said you disagreed, nothing you wrote had anything to do with that...
[LG V30 Real Life Review] kbuss:
they say they dont accept.

but they do.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] ChazzMatt:
And you know that, how? The news corporation I worked for 20 years sure didn't.

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Real Life Review] gazzacbr:
I dont really use the video much so cant comment on the quality other than it seems ok.

Certanly no one at LG will be interested in updating oreo for us but maybe when (if?) Pie gets released for our aging V30 ( 2 models out of date now) it will have some updated libraries.

Hoping anyway...
[LG V30 Real Life Review] Daniel Chan:
I have exactly the same issue in my LG V30. I've also intended to use it as my primary vlogging camera but realized the stuttering audio recording in my videos after watching them on my laptop. I will try to contact the LG support.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] Schmacko:
Just bought this phone and absolutely love it
[LG V30 Real Life Review] kbuss:
Well you could work there but I'm still waiting for the great looking lut video demos and 10 bit vlogs made with this phone swarming on YouTube
[LG V30 Real Life Review] kbuss:
Thx man for the confirmation. After that I found the same issue on a demo piece in a store. I made some test recordings in the store and uploaded on my cloud.

So this is not a malfunction, sadly it's made like this thanks to LG dumness.

They spoil a great product with these.

I returned mine and bought an s9

BTW I would be interested if it's better on pie
[LG V30 Real Life Review] marcinb24:
LG take oficial LUT for V30:

http://tr.lgworld.com/web.v30Lut.RetrieveV30LutMainList.dev
[LG V30 Real Life Review] Swede3519:
I also had stuttering and sometimes even distorted audio making videos almost unusable for me.

After providing LG with links to my videos that showed the issue, the agreed that it was very "strange" but denied any knowledge of audio issues with the V30 video recordings. However... they quickly changed motherboard, all microphones, loudspeaker and membranes.

Everything ok since that, except for the usual automatic software volume level adjustment and change of source microphones which is not the smoothest.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] marcinb24:
[MENTION=7076635]Swede3519[/MENTION];

Will you provide material from before repairs?
[LG V30 Real Life Review] Swede3519:
Send me a PM.

It was not only the stuttering sound like it flipped like crazy between sensitivity levels, it was many times also an ugly hollow sound distorsion, making it sound like the phone was inside a glass jar, and passing cars sounded like an alien spaceship passing by.

Almost like a guitar pedal with "flanger-effect. Those playing guitar knows what i mean.

The stuttering is gone after they changed everything, so that was probably bad mics or something causing the change between the normal microphones and the speaker microphone to go crazy.

The sound distorsion is still there so i guess that is due to some bad sound processing. It is less but still noticable.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the LG V30 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[LG V30 Real Life Review] Kdenery:
The selfie camera is just awful in my experience...
[LG V30 Real Life Review] Chris Welch:
Oh it's atrocious. I don't know how LG is satisfied with this compared to pretty much any other phone out there.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] kevlo911:
It is worse than my old moto x pure. Has anyone messed with the settings to make it better?
[LG V30 Real Life Review] idkwhothatis123:
Fingers crossed for a software update to fix it lol
[LG V30 Real Life Review] Moostafa29:
I don't think it's software. They're still using a 5mp lens. You know it's bad when an iPhone had a higher mp count than you. Once again LG continues to shoot themselves in the foot.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] idkwhothatis123:
Yeah, I knew it was 5mp. I didn't understand when this was touted as such a high end camera phone, why they screwed the pooch on the front cam. I don't use it often, so it's not a deal breaker to me, but to sell phones you have to appeal to the masses. Snapchat and instagram are moderately popular I would say lol
[LG V30 Real Life Review] EVOme:
Dammit!! Always one thing to ruin the experience
[LG V30 Real Life Review] idkwhothatis123:
Lol I'd take a ****ty front cam if it meant I could have root on a carrier device. Alas... Here we are with two blemishes
[LG V30 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Once I got it tweaked and Incorporated some of my favorite workflow, I'm actually pretty happy with the results. First thing I need to mention is I never leave an image as is, every shot can use some massaging. Second, the very first thing I recommend everyone do is set both "skin tone" and lightning to their bottom values. Seems someone decided to rename that atrocious skin smoothing to skin tone. Absolutely misleading. Once you do that and do a little processing, you can get some pretty good results.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] RojasTKD:
Yeah, by all accounts is not a great front camera compared to most phones especially flagships. An $800 flagship device really should be better than this.

But I rarely use the front camera, so not a big deal to me.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] ryanpm40:
It's a major step back from even the G4 and G5. There's really no arguing, it's just a bad camera.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] AndroidPurity:
I love this freaking phone!!! This is the only major thing I dislike about this phone. If the front facing camera was about as good as others, then honestly this would be like the perfect phone. It has everything else you could ever want and more.

At least this is mostly seeming to be a software issue from my experience. For example the Galaxy S7 and even then Galaxy S6 both had 5 megapixel front cameras too, but their front facing cameras were still really good! So LG could make this camera a lot better if they focus on it with their software updates.

Does anyone know a good place we can voice our opinion and thoughts to LG on the front facing camera? If we all voice our opinions somewhere LG can see and hear, then they are likely to do something about it soon.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] steve841:
It's gotta be better than the Nexus 6 Im waiting to shelve .....
[LG V30 Real Life Review] mrrelive:
my came out clean, not the best but its good. as a photographer so far the detail

during daylight the quality is good, evening shots, better use your rear camera lol, but then that paint look appears on both.

thanks

will have a video for it soon to get the best trick for lighting in every situation with the lg v30 youtube under scooby miranda , give me 1 week as ill be doing every test with the camera

instagram is https://www.instagram.com/scoobysnapstories/?hl=en
[LG V30 Real Life Review] stevefrench85:
It does have the wide angle. I haven't noticed any poor quality with it. Like a previous post, I took the skin smoothing and light down right away, because I don't care about those things. Overall though, I'm happy with it. I don't use Snapchat very often though, so I'm not sure how its screenshot of the screen processing interprets it.

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This. It comes with some high skin smoothing out of the box for some reason. Adjusting those makes things look very good.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Here's two. Both using the front camera and a little processing in Snapseed. Shot with indirect sunlight indoors.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/23728950428/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/37322765870/

It's not glamorous. I have no idea what softness people keep complaining about. If you look at those on a desktop and open the larger view, you can see way more detail than I would prefer people seeing most of the time, pores and lines and all. Those who are complaining about softness either haven't reset the weird skin smoothing settings to zero or... I have no idea what else they are expecting. No person I've ever shot a portrait of would ever want that much detail showing on their face.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] eldar4uk:
have you corrected the sharpness and "shadows" parameter in snapseed ?
[LG V30 Real Life Review] CHH2:
I'm a photographer, I always apply a tad sharpening to any photo. But you can't sharpen what isn't there. The information has to already exist in the file. I also bump contrast a tad in B&W. Modern sensors come out too flat. The V30, my mirrorless, and my full frame DSLR, they all come out too flat. The dynamic range freaks are making images too boring and useless. Sometimes you just have to let things get clipped.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] hachiroku:
my V30 is arriving today, but the only thing that deferred me for so long was the horrid front facing camera 5mp vs 8mp or higher of others as well as no stereo front facing speakers.

LG is marketing this phone as a media production and consumption device, but it can't even output stereo audio out of its speakers.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Fun fact: In order for 99% of the population to see a doubling of resolution, you have to quadruple the pixels on sensor. So in order for people to actually see a real difference in photos in standard viewing, that 5mp sensor would have to become a 20mp. Which is part of the reason I'm calling out all the people saying this sensor sucks so much. Reality is that I know for a fact that no one here could really tell the difference between a 5 and 8mp image in standard viewing.

As for lack of stereo speakers on a phone. You are correct. This phone is billed as a media production and consumption device. To that end, why water that down with horrible little stereo speakers. Make people plug in headphones for a much better experience. Which it seems is what LG did. I have yet to hear ANY phone with an external speaker that would even come close to decent headphones. Oh, and no one else really wants to hear what you're watching/listening to out in public. I know it sounds harsh but it sounds even harsher to anyone else around people who insist on listening to whatever out loud form their phones.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] hachiroku:
you're wrong about the 5mp to 8mp. there CLEARLY is a difference. I've viewed front facing camera shots and they're nowhere near as clear as my 2 year old Nexus 6P's. additionally with less real estate you have less capability to crop photos.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] CHH2:
I can guarantee you it isn't the camera. But hey, what would I know. I've only been shooting and researching the actual science behind imaging for over 30 years.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] hachiroku:
pixels are pixels...you're saying image quality is all that matters, but you forget the fact that a so so image quality sensor that has more megapixels when shrunk down to the same viewing size will look clearer because it has more pixels.

those dinky front facing cameras aren't quality, but when you have more pixels it will look better when viewing at 50% of full size compared to say...80% full size from a 5mp for example.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Negative. Pixels are not pixels. You obviously know nothing about digital imaging.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] Nay Tyzon:
A YouTube reviewer who posted today said, out of the box, he found his selfie cam was defaulted to a lower resolution / MP count. After upping it to the 5 MP setting he noted a marked improvement. I dropped in to Verzion today, and found the selfie cam to be set to 5 MP. Can anyone vouch for what this guy claims?
[LG V30 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Mine was not set to a lower MP count but there are two settings for the selfie cam that need to be zeroed out or you will have softness issues. There is a skin "toning" and lighting setting that both need to be take to zero and that helps immensely. The skin toning setting is the smoothing setting that will butter face you to death. Fortunately, it can be set to a real zero. In the past (hopefully they fixed this), Samsung even set to zero would still apply a little smoothing. How any of these companies can think that actually looks good, which it never does, is beyond me. Once you do this, you'll have very usable files.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] youngpettyboi:
Just got my Sprint V30+ yesterday. I immediately tested out the cameras. Front camera is EXTREMELY GRAINY. My G5 has a much bigger lens and let's in more light. Recording videos in selfie mode is abysmal. Omg. The front camera is like a pinhole spy cam lol.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] eukleklein:
the front camera is stable when you capturing the video? can you share the example
[LG V30 Real Life Review] youngpettyboi:
Sure I can try. It's cool when sitting still. But I don't like the selfie quality.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] ChazzMatt:
No.

http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30

1st Dual Rear Camera - 16 MP Standard-Angle Lens f/1.6

2nd Dual Rear Camera - 13 MP Wide-Angle Lens f/1.9

Front Camera (Selfie Camera) - 5 MP Wide-Angle Lens f/2.2
[LG V30 Real Life Review] AndroidPurity:
I thought I had mentioned this before in this post but I guess I only posted it on Reddit V30 forum.

I discovered from another post and testing on my own if you change the following settings of the front camera it is MUCH better, like actually acceptable in good light and medium lighting conditions...

1.) Set skin tone to 0

2.) Set lighting to 0

3) Filter to None

4.) HDR to Off or On (Not Auto)

This has removed most or all the grain from my front camera pictures and also SIGNIFICANTLY improved the color reproduction and definition of the photo. It basically forces the camera to do as minimal processing a possible. It is so much better!
[LG V30 Real Life Review] CHH2:
Yeah, we found this weeks ago but some people just don't seem to want to listen.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] jsgraphicart:
Yeah, after messing around with it for a bit, I did find that turning on HDR made a huge difference.

And just so people know, there are separate settings for both the front and rear cameras. Meaning if you have the rear camera opened and go into settings and turn on HDR, it doesn't turn on HDR for the front facing camera. You have to open the front facing camera and go into settings again. Oh, and turn on "Saved as flipped". No one likes a backwards photo. Lol
[LG V30 Real Life Review] julianalaqrua:
does it has portrait mode like pixel 2 on selfie camera ?
[LG V30 Real Life Review] isko01:
If you download Google Camera mod, you can make some portrait mode on every SD835 phone and less like V20.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] isko01:
Just software. Google Pixel 2 XL have just one camera on the front and one on the back, and that is just software implementation. It is not dual camera, or something else.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] CHH2:
All of the "portrait modes" on all of the cellphones are software blurring after the fact. Which means you will always have cases where the system misinterprets data and messes it up. Whereas with hardware, it's physics that are known and stay mostly constant. Well, until that whale appeared in midair and fell to the ground. (Points for getting that reference.)

The closest you will ever get to bokeh using just hardware on a cellphone is if you put your subject really close to the phone using the main sensor with a background that's far away. Note that the main sensor on any cellphone is usually still considered wide angle which means greater depth of field in addition to what it already has with having a small sensor.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] ChazzMatt:
RIP, Douglas Adams. A man whose writing made me laugh out loud.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] julianalaqrua:
so that means that any phone can do the same as google pixel using only one lens?
[LG V30 Real Life Review] isko01:
Yes, but you need a good software application.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] joyshvabra:
maybe google will share that technology in future for other brands too :)
[LG V30 Real Life Review] jsgraphicart:
You can pretty much already do this with the lens blur setting in the Google camera. But I'm sure the technology in the pixels is better
[LG V30 Real Life Review] josephtaygano:
in general how do you think, lg v30 camera is better than pixel xl 2 ?
[LG V30 Real Life Review] jsgraphicart:
I haven't used the Pixel phones so I can't say from experience. As far as features go, the V30 wins. Especially with video recording. But the Pixels have that good stabilization. As far as point and shoot, I think the V30 is a good camera. I really like the wide angle lens. The only issue is that front camera but as I mentioned already in here, turning on HDR for the front camera really helps. It's all about preferences I guess.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] Japultra:
I love the V30, but compared to other flagships, the auto camera really can't compare. While the manual camera is great, the focusing and shutter speed of the main cam isn't even as good as my old S7 edge. For simple point and shoot, the Pixel 2 experience wins.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] Lyvyoo:
Give a try to Google Camera on V30. Please read here
[LG V30 Real Life Review] xdamember143:
why does it say 8 megapixels front facing camera on the homepage? if its 5mp?
[LG V30 Real Life Review] josephtaygano:
does it support image stabilization ?
[LG V30 Real Life Review] ChazzMatt:
"on the home page"? That's a little vague. What are you talking about?

WHOSE "home page"? LG, XDA, a certain carrier, a retail website? Give us a link at least.

Here at this official LG website below, the V30/V30+ specs for the front camera clearly show 5MP for the front-facing camera.

http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-phones/v30/specs

Now, the Google Pixel 2 XL has an 8MP selfie camera:

https://xdaforums.com/pixel-2-xl

Is that what you are confused about?

But we aren't talking about the Google Pixel 2 XL camera specs, this is the V30 forum. What people are discussing is using a port of Google camera software on the V30, not the actual Google cameras (hardware).
[LG V30 Real Life Review] ChazzMatt:
Aren't there several different dev ports of the Google camera? Which one is the best? Which ones work on the LG V30?
[LG V30 Real Life Review] Lyvyoo:
[MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION]

This one
[LG V30 Real Life Review] xdamember143:
Sorry for not being specific , I meant on the V30 xda forum homepage where it lists the device specifications https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30

It clearly says 8mp which I am confused about
[LG V30 Real Life Review] ChazzMatt:
Thanks for the clarification on where you saw the info. But the information they have posted is incorrect. It's 5MP front facing camera, like the LG website specs list.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] xdamember143:
Yeah that's what I thought, they should fix that
[LG V30 Real Life Review] DizturbedOne:
I'm rather aggravated. I bought the device based on the entire media campaign of image and audio... But my wife's Note 8 (and my G5 also) has a better camera in nearly every way. ive always liked the wide angle lens FAR MORE than the other options from other manufacturers, but the quality here is unacceptable. The rear facing camera isn't too bad, not great, but not bad. But the front facing camera... Is atrocious.

Post processing? IT'S A CELL PHONE. I should be able to take a half decent selfie of me and my kid and just send it to my wife or Facebook and expect it to look half decent. It's worked this way since my Galaxy S4. DONE.

But nope... Not with this POS. Quite aggravated that I spent 900+ dollars on this junk, and will be returning it promptly for the huge and ugly Note 8.
[LG V30 Real Life Review] ChazzMatt:
I agree post processing is a pain and I'm not going to do it for most pictures, like selfies. However, you can turn off two settings on the selfie camera and make it much better. The skin tone and the lighting both need to be set to ZERO, according to [MENTION=7789117]CHH2[/MENTION]. I still don't have the phone in hand, is being shipped to me, so going by other's experience and he's a photographer:

Even reviewers noticed this atrocious skin smoothing default setting.

https://thematridox.com/2017/11/20/lg-v30-review/

Anyways, try changing those settings, see if there's an improvement?