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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Reposting this here:

Yes, this works with all North America variants, except T-mobile H932. It works for the ENTIRE WORLD, except T-mobile H932.

But for North American variants to convert to US998 Oreo you first have to flash US998 Nougat, even if your variant (Canadian H933, Sprint LS998, AT&T H931, Verizon VS996, etc) is already on Oreo. Doesn't matter.

DL partition flash in dev patched LGUP to Nougat US998, then Master Reset, and "upgrade" in LGUP to Oreo US998. You now have:

1) fastboot flash commands

2) Oreo with the bootloader unlock flaw.

That's a WINNING combination.

Both the US998 Oreo and European H930 Oreo have the fastboot flash commands and boot loader unlock flaw. That's why you need to convert to one of those. North American variants would use Oreo US998 and the rest of the world would use H930.

The rest of the world does not have to downgrade to Nougat first to flash European H930 Oreo. I don't know why, we just know what works. I tried to skip that step, and I had bootloops until I first flashed Nougat US998, THEN upgraded to Oreo US998.

WARNING: If you have North America variant, do NOT try to flash the European H930. You will brick your phone. Not as bad as the T-mobile H932, but still you will have a bad day. [MENTION=6158380]TxanMoe[/MENTION] did that while discovering this entire process, and [MENTION=3167089]runningnak3d[/MENTION] had to help him recover. Do NOT do that.

North America variants stay with North America US998

Europe/Mid-East/Asia/Pacific stays with Europe H930.

It's Oreo that has bootloader unlock exploit, but you need fastboot flash commands.

It's all

written up and documenter in the WTF thread

. < That's my write-up. All credit goes to [MENTION=6158380]TxanMoe[/MENTION] for discovering this. That's HIS thread he started to discuss it.

We made XDA NEWS yesterday:

Android Oreo update for the LG V30/V30+ accidentally allows unsupported models to unlock the bootloader

https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-v30-bootloader-unlock-android-oreo/

(The only thing the writer got wrong was it's NOT a Huawei M8 bootloader unlock code we are currently using. [MENTION=6158380]TxanMoe[/MENTION] has made a better one, that's just the first one that worked. That's what clued us in that this was a GREAT bootloader unlock exploit if even a Huawei M8 unlock code could unlock the LG V30 bootloader.)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] RoxAbout:
except T-mobile H932. It works for the ENTIRE WORLD, except T-mobile H932.

So is all hope lost on this device getting root?

Thanks
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Josh McGrath:
No and there's no need to post in different forums. A few are already running root so just wait a bit longer for a super safe method to be released.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] BobberK:
Can I unlock bootloader on LG V30 model LGM-V300L?

Or is there another way to flash a ROM?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Yes, all V30 have bootloader unlock and root. See WTF thread instructions.

(WTF...!) LG V30/V30+/V30S Bootloader Unlock & Root Method (With Clear Instructions)

Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] rogerssnpy:
actually the LG G6 is the easiest I downloaded the latest KDZ for my us997usa Aug security patch oreo installed twrp thru ADB tools flashed Magisk and bam all done fully rooted and flash anything ya want
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I note you fail to mention you got a bootloader unlock code from LG for your open market LG G6 US997. ;) I got one also for ONE of my open market US998 V30, but the US998 V30+ was not eligible for unknown reasons. For the V30 US998, we had to basically hack LG's website.

At the time he wrote that, only the LG G6 "open market" variants (Europe and U.S.) could be rooted. US997 you mention is one of the officially sanctioned "open market" phones which allows bootloader unlock code AND fastboot flash commands. None of the other LG G6 U.S. carrier variants could be rooted. T-mobile especially could not, even though it had bootloader unlock -- which was useless without fastboot flash commands.

LG V30 was even in worse position initially (as LG never officially added any U.S. open market variants to the website), but now EVERY V30 can be rooted --- even the T-mobile H932.

ROOT FOR T-MOBILE H932 V30/V30+

ROOT FOR ALL OTHER V30/V30+/V30S

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T-mobile H932 now has root, thanks to [MENTION=3167089]runningnak3d[/MENTION]. See post above.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
The only reason Magisk has passed SuperSU is because development on SuperSU, SUhide, and Chainfire's other projects has completely stopped. When he sold the rights to his work, the company that took it over basically let it die about a year ago.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Ronniemeek:
I have a real LG G6 not even a T-Mobile but an LG G6 h870ds locked bootloader but I want to unlock,,, I have used all commands like OEM unlock command but all in vain, tell me what to do
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Unlocking the LG G6 would be totally different than these LG V30. For most we used an exploit found briefly on early V30 Oreo firmware (basically an LG mistake) + fastboot flash commands. For the North American V30 that don't come with fastboot flash commands, you can convert (Frankenstein) them to US998 -- EXCEPT for T-Mobile V30, which is totally incompatible with other V30 firmware. Will brick it!

For T-Mobile variant, there's a very complicated different method.

None apply directly to LG G6.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Maaxberg:
I’m wondering if someone managed to installed a custom rom to any LG V60/50/40 I really love those phones and I would like to find a way to upgrade. Thank you
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
You can ask in those XDA forums. They would have to have bootloader unlock and root. Owners of those phones could tell you more.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Cobra04:
[MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] seems like I'll be seeing you on XDA for another few years. V30 is looking like my likely upgrade from the Droid Turbo.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] SOCOM-HERO:
So as a current die hard G3 user VS985 on VZW. What should I get if I decided to go with the V30 that would work on VZW (4G and 3G) and have a good chance of root? Get the unlocked version from LG or a trusted seller? I am 100% sure that the VZW version will not be unlockable or have root ever and be full of NFL mobile VZW spamware. I just don't want to spend a fortune on this and have it get no root support.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Make sure you get the "carrier unlocked" version, which qualifies for LG bootloader unlock. ;)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Get the U.S. unlocked carrier version -- LG V30 US998, which qualifies for LG bootloader unlock. It will have all the carrier bands. You can order straight from LG, if you wish. There will be other online retailers which will also having, maybe even at a discount. But "trusted" can't be better than the manufacturer themselves, I guess.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Cobra04:
Oh trust me, I know which to get. I've been lucky in the past with the Droid DNA and Droid Turbo getting bootloader unlocks but I'm not risking it this time.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] nitramus:
Then just wait a bit for the phone to get unlocked and rooted then there will be no risk since you will know.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Natakranta:
So I'm not the only ABC guy lurking in V30 forums :D

I'm in Ireland, so I'm waiting for EU version, lucky me, these had traditionally unlockable bootloader with all functionality.

I made a mistake buying G6 dual sim. Sold it week later. Couldn't deal with LG software without root.

Checking daily here for V30 official confirmation:

https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
hey [MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] in the UK will it be an carrier unlocked version? thank you
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Yes, the European unlocked version. I assume will be sold in UK.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] bp328i:
[MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION]

Thanks for all the info, I was hoping the Pixel LX would be similar to the V30 but I guess that's out the window now.

Looks like I'll be picking up the LG V30 US998.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] mingkee:
This is interesting.

Indeed T-Mobile version has unlocked bootloader, but missing those fastboot commands makes flashing cannot happen.

I'm glad to know US GSM/CDMA unlocked version can still be rooted.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
Is this something that developers can eventually crack ? Or is that just not gonna happen with the T-Mobile V30 ?

Would love to get the T-Mobile V30 and flash Lineage 15 ROM :good:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Hard to predict what magic developers can do in the future, but

in six months they haven't been able to so for the T-Mobile LG G6.

(That post link explains more if haven't read it yet.)

Whereas the U.S. carrier unlocked version of the LG G6 (US997) has lots of dev work because it qualifies for REAL bootloader unlock.

http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Fgtfv567:
Do you know why LG or T-Mobile had such a sudden change of heart and locked down their devices like this?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Josh McGrath:
No one knows for sure but there are 3 factors involved:

Android security is very important to Google as to compete in the Corp market and general security.

LG is probably trying to compete for corporate accounts with Samsung. (Hence the KNOX and locked bootloader's on Samsung) so tight security is a must. (Look at HTC, Dev friendly, on T-Mobile)

And 3, I personally believe that carriers have to pay extra for a device to have locked bootloaders, so T-Mobile does not do that...yet, but Att and Verizon are locked on all devices. I don't know if that first part is true or not, but there's no way to know either way.

Edit.. also, T-Mobile blames the manufacturer, and they blame T-Mobile. So we may never know
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Not sure what you mean by "free phones". They didn't get to keep them. Reviewers have to send back phones, just like people who review cars, stereos, TVs. It's just a professional courtesy to be shipped a loaner phone for extensive review purposes, so the reviewer doesn't just have the minute or two after a corporate press conference when everyone is trying to grab the phones on display.

It also doesn't guarantee no criticism of a product, but I know Steve Jobs famously blackballed reviewers who said anything negative about Apple products so they wouldn't have access to any loaner iPhones before release. So, that made the tech media not say anything negative...

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Unlock bootloader and Root LG V30

One other point should be made in this thread.

Even though the U.S. carrier unlocked

LG G6 (US997) was released

on May 12, 2017 -- 75 days after the

initial LG G6 global press conference (February 26, 2017)

, it wasn't until

June 29, 2017 that LG added both the U.S. and European carrier unlocked versions to their official bootloader unlock list.

(that's REAL bootloader unlock with ADB flash commands, not the faux bootloader unlock they foisted onto T-mobile)

123 days or OVER 4 months! Between global announce of the LG G6 and the procedure to officially unlock bootloader and root an LG G6 (and even then only two models of the LG G6, the U.S. and European "unlocked carrier" models).

Well, the LG V30 was announced on August 31, 2017...

Extrapolating that timeline -- which is probably fruitless but fun -- means the U.S. carrier unlocked US998 will go on sale around November 14, but won't be available for bootloader unlock or root until December 31, 2017. That's 123 days.

Since I won't buy a phone I can't root on DAY 1, IF that same timeline holds, then it will be early 2018 before I'll be buying this phone...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Poloasis:
Well I wanted to go with v30, my nexus 6p battery is close to death. I tried the Pixel xl replacement, it's just sitting there at the order page with no update what's so ever for 2 weeks now. Looks like I'll be going for the XL 2. A damn shame LG. Get your s.... together
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I don't mind waiting until mid-November for the carrier unlocked version -- because I'm not buying a carrier-branded version which won't receive bootloader unlock AND root. I can understand the carriers need time to fleece the suckers, so I will need to wait like 5 weeks after the carriers start selling their versions of the phone to for the carrier unlocked version to be released.

But I don't want to then have to wait an additional six weeks after that for REAL bootloader unlock code...

Hopefully LG will do it faster than with the LG G6?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Josh McGrath:
Since I won't buy a phone I can't root on DAY 1, IF that same timeline holds, I'll be buying this phone in early 2018...[/QUOTE]

I feel ya. I bought the G5 at launch thinking root would come immediately like usual, and nope! It took 5 months!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Ali Mirza:
I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.

https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] johnp357:
above.... but also I believe the reason everyone is locking down these phones is more to do with the security requirements for these mobil pay systems. the financial institutions are requiring Android Pay, Samsung Pay, and probably even LG pay to only work on secured phones or they will not certify it. I noticed these warnings coming from a nexus 6p. they are detecting it. we try to hide it. mfg are starting to give in .. for sure the carriers will give in to participate.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Cobra04:
That's great that they want to protect our money and their rear ends, but their is no excuse to not allow bootloader unlocking. If I want trade-off those banking apps and NFC payments to do whatever I please with my phone, I should be able to. They can still be extremely secure even with an unlockable bootloader.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] RiffyDivine:
Don't LG and Samsung make something off any transaction you make with their pay systems? I'd think that would be a reason to keep it locked so you can't disable it. I know when you use your card the reader does charge the merchant a fee for it or maybe it's just here they do that. :confused:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AllGamer:
I only use my phones for fun and entertainment, I'll never trust my financial information or transaction in a phone that can easily be stolen, or dropped accidentally, hacked and identify theft-ed.

All these large companies are trying to turn the phone into a Passport and Wallet, are just shooting themselves.

There's no way to keep a phone safe, when FBI, Airport Custom, and Police wants to have a BackDoor to download and mirror your device for investigation.

So, it's pointless to call the phone "secure" when it has such a big fat open backdoor that anyone with the Known How (hackers) can exploit.

Which is why the only way to keep your information safe, is to not have it in there to begin with.

Just keep your phone strictly for web browsing, non sensitive email, chatting, games and netflix.

So, all the Big Companies should give us back our Root and our Unlocked Bootloader, so we can do whatever we want on our phones.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
hey matt,

how come the uk price is 1040USD and the US price is 800USD?

any thoughts on ebay, some are going for 900USD? mainly from korea but are those ones unlocked or will have custom roms etc?

thanks
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Killua96:
Price is 1:1 so you have the US one which costs 799$ and the UK one that costs 799£
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
So there's no explanation? To me it looks like basing off which demographic they think is wealthier? Every brand does it in the UK. If course who would admit that, no company would..
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Killua96:
Who knows... I hope it'll be 799 euros as well :fingers-crossed:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] bacon612:
Cost of doing business in the US is significantly cheaper and the sales volume is higher.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
Ok so who can help me out, sending v30 to UK plz haha. 50usd compensation!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Not which demographic is wealthier --- everyone thinks Americans are rich -- but mostly corporate greed and laziness. Apple used to do the same thing (and maybe still does?) Even back when the British pound was 2:1 ratio to the U.S. dollar. For iPods, Mac computers, iPhones... In U.S. $600, so then in UK was priced at £600. Even though that would be U.S. $1200! Apple didn't care, and their iSheep said "Thank you. Please beat us more."

I'm not going to justify it in any way, but perhaps, just perhaps there's other factors involved. Are there VAT taxes, import taxes, etc which have to be included in the price that are not required in the U.S.? It still would not justify Apple's predatory pricing back when the ratio was 2:1, but might explain current pricing now that there's only a 30% difference.

How to get around it? Wait until the European carrier unlocked LG V30 (H930) is released and buy from Hong Kong dealers via eBay. They will have better pricing.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
some info there I didn't know.

wait how long estimated lmao?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] vibrantliker:
Is there a way to tell if the phone I have now thru T-Mobile can have it's bootloader unlocked?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
You mean REAL bootloader unlock? With the LG G6, the

T-Mobile variant had bootloader unlock, but T-Mobile/LG removed all the other ADB flash commands

. < Go read that post if you haven't. So six months later, still no root or dev work on the T-Mobile model. Whereas both U.S.and Europe carrier unlocked versions have lots of development. Kernels, ROMs, etc.

Until proven otherwise, that post is the answer. I would be glad to be wrong!

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U.S. unlocked model is supposed to be released end of October, so Europe model should be the same? By end of November and into December you should see significant savings on eBay and Amazon vs UK retail stores. Online dealers are much more flexible in pricing. They have lower overhead and are willing to take less profit.

As an example, here's a current

UK eBay listing for Europe LG G6 H870

European carrier unlocked model you can buy from Hong Kong. Prices can change daily, but at this moment it's £389. A dealer from Germany is selling the H870 European unlocked LG G6 for

£392

, if you don't want to order all the way from Hong Kong.

What's the current upfront pricing there in RETAIL STORES for the H870 LG G6 in UK? All I can find are "contract" pay-monthly deals online, but costing about £700 over two years. What's the best upfront price you can find on the LG G6 right now?

Anyway, this is an example of the type of online discounts you will be able to get on the LG V30 carrier unlocked model, once released and hype settles a little.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
LG g6 32gb 400gpb or 522usd outright. In uk. Thats a website selling EU version so UK would need charger adapter. (but it's already in uk)

Or 500 gpb or 550usd outright from a UK reputable company.

But if we're saving a few dollars December say. But we own an s8+. The s8+ is part paying for my v30. So if it depreciates alot more than it's worth now (about 450-500gpb so 580-650usd) would I and others be making a logical decision to sell it now for the v30 full price. Or wait till December sell our s8+ for way less but the v30 price drop makes the wait worth it even though our current market price s8+ has dropped and we don't sell it anymore for 450-500gpb or 580-650usd but instead less.

And I making sense or did I jumble that up lol

I'm trying to get the v30 selling my s8+ to pay for most of it then I top up the rest. Tbh I've never been this strapped before lol but I'm being a bit frugal more than normal lol....
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
You're making sense. Will further depreciation of the Samsung offset the anticipated depreciation of the LG V30?

I think the LG V30 will depreciate more. :)

Back to the website pricing. I think the LG G6 was priced about £650 upon release?

https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/28/lg-g6-uk-deals-tariffs-contracts/

So, now realistically priced about £400 for LG G6 now shows that you need not pay exorbitant £800 for the LG V30 immediately upon release. Wait just a little.

As you can see, LG did the same thing with the LG G6 for U.S./UK pricing. In the U.S. the

LG G6 was about $650

on release, so for UK they just slapped on a £ to replace the $. £650! There you go.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] waylo:
I walked into a T-Mobile store yesterday and handled the V30 which had just come in. As with all the recent LG models, within developer options there was an OEM unlock toggle. (This was also reported with the ATT model).

Of course, I could not do anything more with it. But if history shows (since the G5), the adb commands will be stripped and limited. =(
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
Nice my man!!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] vibrantliker:
The US T-Mobile V20 was easy to root and not to long after they came out.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] waylo:
As was the G5. But anything newer than that generation does not have any commonly known/available exploits. Pity.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Interceptor777:
Yo guys T-Mobile twitter support (T-Force) said that the bootloader is NOT unlockable on their version.

T-Force is a reliable source since they're more than level 1 support and usually have very reliable and early info on everything. Including future device prices and coverage rollouts for the years to come.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] vibrantliker:
This phone is useless if not rootable - Viper4android + Quad dac = magic!

Why can't android/Google buy Viper4android and have it as a stock feature on their phones? Talk about a groundbreaking idea!!!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Interceptor777:
I've found that Viper ruins phones with good DACs, my HTC 10 was absolute **** with Viper installed.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] vibrantliker:
There are many variations of V4A out there. On my V20, with high impedance mode activated, Viper4 Arise Magnum Opus, Dolby Atmos, Meeze 99 CLASSICS, listening to Steven Wilson as I type this, the hairs on the back of my neck are standing up.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Well, that's what I said

back on page 1.

But it's good T-mobile has candidly admitted it instead of ignoring the question. Do you have a Twitter link we can post, so we can point to it for the hundreds of people who will come asking this question? :silly:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Interceptor777:
I got this, screenshot from my support DM session with them: https://imgur.com/a/noIeC
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Josh McGrath:
It does seem like the person you talked to actually knows what a bootloader is, for once. But, I won't believe anything they say until it's in our hands and can own unlock or not.

I would not be surprised if all LG phones are bootloader locked from now on, as [MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] and I have previously posted
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] androidfilesharing:
Bootloader can be Unlocked!

I received my LG V30 yesterday and gave the Bootloader unlock a shot. I can confirm it unlocks just fine. Next we need TWRP and Root!!!