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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] mr turtle droid:
Looking through the fastboot command and I mean command because there is one I think I may have a way to root possibly.we have fastboot flash all still, if we modify a ota zip to flash via fastboot and modify the boot.img we maybe be able to get magisk.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Then you should start a CARRIER-BRANDED ONLY thread to discuss that? Because any "general" bootloader unlock and root thread like this one will always point to the dev-friendly LG V30 carrier unlocked models US998 and H930 if you want easy root, TWRP, ROMs.

LG Developer website lists the models that have official bootloader unlock.

Carrier-branded models are not supported, and this year LG removed all the ADB flash commands to make sure no exploits like Dirty Santa could crack the bootloader and then get full control of a device. The LG V30 US998 and H930 official carrier unlocked models will be added to that list sometimes after release.

Yes, the T-mobile LG G6 and LG V30 still have the ONE command to unlock the bootloader, but it seems more a move on LG's part to show people it's useless to use an exploit to get bootloader unlock, because even with "unlocked bootloader" you can't do anything past that. At least the LG G6 T-mobile people haven't been able to in six months time.

But if you want to explore ideas about that, then a CARRIER-BRANDED thread would be the way to go. It would only be about the locked down carrier-branded models, and would not include the dev-friendly carrier unlocked models.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] careingemt:
Hello,

Yesterday I got my LG V30 from Verizon store. Powered it on and it was activated on my line and I had them it off (I watched this process they did not go through setup)

I got home and did setup wizard. Phone booted up as new device. First thing I did was disable automatic updates.

In notifications I have a "system update ready to install".... If I was to take this update does this lock my phone down and I will loose any possibility of root or unlock bootloader ?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Your Verizon LG V30 phone is already locked down and you cannot unlock the bootloader.

Go back to page 1 and read posts 6, 7, 9 written back in early September. That's all you need to know.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] mr turtle droid:
Ok well you don't need to be a d*** it's getting no one anywhere.NOWHERE IN THIS THREAD does it says it international only why don't you start a thread strictly on international then? And FYI I already did before posting this
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] bp328i:
So if you were commenting on the person that thought everything was hunky-dory which is the same person I told to run "fastboot oem device-id" so he could see for himself everything is not all good, next time quote him and not me.

I already know the T-Mobile V30's bootloader can be unlocked, I also know it's useless and means nothing.

Again you quoting me was pointless.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I was quoting for context, for agreement in what you were saying. I quoted so people dont have to go back and piece together what YOU told him to do. And then he realized the truth.

It wasn't pointless. It was helpful to the discussion.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] igotroot:
Oh my goodness. I have been rooting since the days of the HTC Evo. And never have I seen so much juvenile Back and Forth on an XDA Developers Forum post. LOL.

I have just decided to purchase an LG V 30 and I came to this post to educate myself on the matter of rooting. From the very first few posts in this forum it is quite clear and evident that if you take the time to actually read the first few posts you will have no choice but to logically conclude that a store or Carrier branded version of this phone will not have a functioning bootloader that is necessary for us to flash a new recovery and other flashable ROMs Etc. Plain and simple. I don't understand why people are arguing these simple facts. All we have to do is wait for the US unbranded unlocked version and purchase it when it finally comes out.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Thank you. The first posts in this thread were back in early September (a MONTH before carrier release), so people could plan accordingly. I know I research my phones before buying them, and I wanted to help others be able to do that too.

Instead people wanted to argue with the facts. And a few really hated links proving everything -- because then they really couldn't ignore the truth? ;) Or that any misinformation was quickly refuted, again with documented proof.

Another thread has been started -- which after the topic was edited at my suggestion -- now

focuses on efforts to root/install TWRP on the T-Mobile LG V30.

(Because that model has the easily "unlocked" bootloader, which right now is useless as it has no other ADB commands... In the same boat as the T-mobile LG G6, but still the bootloader can be unlocked.) I wish them success. People that have carrier-branded phones can monitor that thread. I'm not predicting it will never happen, we have very talented devs on XDA. I'm just saying I'm not crossing my fingers and holding my breath until it happens. ;)

I just know when I buy my official carrier unlocked LG V30 US998, I'll be able to root immediately. (Because I'm not buying until it's placed on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.) ;)

I'm not paying several hundred dollars (maybe even buying two phones, for me and my wife) and "wishing" for root. I've seen flagship phones that took a year to root, I've seen flagship phones that were never rooted yet (two years and counting). I pay for my phones in full, so I'm not buying a phone I cannot root the very day I buy it.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] VR32:
man you do a tremendous job of being a patient one who is asked to repeat himself continually. and then some. this thread had become a real head scratcher. round and round we go...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] igotroot:
Exactly. These phones cost too much money to be playing games with whether or not it can be rooted or not LOL.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] SOCOM-HERO:
Indeed. Issue is, a lot of folks want the device on day one due to the HYPE TRAIN reviews and whatever. Then they come here and realize it cannot be rooted yet. YET. I'm holding out for the unlocked US version (that works on all VZW bands) and will consider it when it starts to see some decent support here.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Blades:
Thanks to this thread, I held off on buying the V30 from the local tmo store.. Even tho I was told they only had one left and it's first come first serve. (omg gotta have it now!!1!1). Someone else can get 'served' by tmo. Not cool. Between these shenanigans and every phone having a non-removable wear-level-goes-sky-high-after-1yr battery.. I suddenly hate trying to buy a new 'gadget'.

edit: uh wait.. US998 = U.S Cellular LG V30?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
U.S.Cellular US998 is the "unofficial" carrier unlocked version, but since sold by a carrier will not be eligible for official bootloader unlock.

LG did the same thing for the LG G6. The US998 LG releases for the "open market" will get bootloader unlock.

U.S.Cellular has both V30 and V30+ (128GB), but won't be bootloader unlocked.

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=74211342
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Pre-order is now available for the European carrier unlocked LG V30 H930. Comes in silver and blue. Interesting one shows a B&O logo and the other doesn't.

http://www.lg.com/uk/mobile-phones/lg-H930-v30-moroccan-blue

http://www.lg.com/uk/mobile-phones/lg-H930-v30-cloud-silver

The "open market" (official carrier unlocked) US998 is not listed on LG's website yet. B&H Photo says it's coming October 27... We'll see.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] lafont28:
Ok so I purchased the VZW variant of the V30 with the full understanding that there is little to no hope of the device getting root. I'm ok with that since I don't have the cash to buy 1 outright and was in desperate need of something new. With that being said, I have been getting a security update notification since I activated and I'm just curious if it would be better to keep postponing it on the off chance someone is working on root or should I just bite the bullet and let it install?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
What they list for a display is interesting. "6.0" QHD+ OLED FullVision Display" I wonder if Europe is still getting a regular OLED instead of the POLED disaplay we have this side of the ocean.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
They're both OLED, same way Samsung calls theirs AMOLED.

And Samsung actually uses plastic substrate also. Technically, Samsung's is also "POLED".

Conversely, LG's smartphone OLED is also "Active Matrix". So, technically LG's POLED is also AMOLED.

They're both using the same technology for their current generation of OLED displays.

https://www.androidauthority.com/poled-vs-amoled-792869/

POLED is LG's marketing term for their smartphone OLED displays, which ARE also "Active Matrix" (AMOLED) just like Samsung's. The "P" (for plastic substrate) means that during the manufacturing process, the display can be bent, curved, molded like they want. It's doesn't mean it's a "cheap" display in any way! ;) It's more a technical term.

Again, Samsung also is now using this same process.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
Okay. Thanks for the clarification.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Cobra04:
Holding off is always the better choice. If an exploit comes for a future software version, you can always flash to it. Can't go back.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] lafont28:
That's kind of what I figured but it's been so long since I haven't had an unlocked bootloader that I figured it was better to get some feedback before I made any decisions. Thanks man!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
I have the US Cellular version, US 998. Are there any commands I can run to further the cause without risk of bricking or erasing my data? Happy to help if I can.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
"fastboot format cache" or "fastboot erase cache" depending on the version you are using. All that does is wipe the cache, not the user data.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
Got it, so if I run these commands and they work, what would that tell us? I'll run these as soon as I get home in a couple of hours and report back.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
Another command to try is "fastboot oem device-id" That was from a post a few pages back.

It should tell us that there are more commands in the US998 than what are in the H932SW from T-Mobile. I am not entirely sure which others have been tried. I am very tempted to pick up an H933 and try is no one else decides they want to try with theirs.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Killua96:
Not so much since these fastboot commands are locked down by lg an all devices, US998 and H930 are different just because you can receive the "unlock key" from LG to unlock these commands.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
How does a person request that key? Technically, the US Cellular model is US998, although not advertised as the US Unlocked version.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Just to clarify, you mean the "official" carrier unlocked US998. U.S.Cellular model is also US998. But since sold by a carrier, the US Cellular US998 is sort of the "unofficial" carrier unlocked version (SIM card unlocked) -- which will not qualify for bootloader unlock code on the LG DEVELOPER website. (I know you meant that, just clarifying as both are US998.)

However, (U.S.Cellular US998) may still have all the ADB fastboot flash commands. (We don't know for sure.) If so, you could crack the bootloader with an exploit, root and install TWRP?

But there really wouldn't be any point to that, since you can buy the official carrier unlocked US998 soon... and it will be placed on the

LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.

The only advantage is we KNOW U.S. Cellular is selling the V30+ (128GB) as one of their US998 models. We do not know that LG will offer that as one of their US998 bootloader unlock-eligible models.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Killua96:
Yeah, you're right, i meant the US998 not from US Cellular.

Don't think that one model will have unlocked fastboot commands, anyway if it does there is no need for an exploit since you could run the oem unlock command and the flash one, you would need just a TWRP, it would be too easy in my opinion.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
Alright so I was able to get my device ID via the command prompt, but not much else. See below for the response from the attempts to format/wipe the cache.

C:\adb>fastboot erase cache

******** Did you mean to fastboot format this partition?

erasing 'cache'...

FAILED (remote: unknown command)

finished. total time: 0.003s

C:\adb>fastboot format cache

FAILED (remote: unknown command)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Josh McGrath:
Has anyone managed to take a look at the hidden fastboot commands via aboot.img and using strings or similar to find the available commands? I'm currently doing this on my V20, but LG should have the same fastboot commands across the board (on crippled fastboot models)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
More news:

---------- Post added at 02:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:33 PM ----------

On the LG Developer website you request the key. Just like Motorola process. They'll tell you if your phone is eligible for official bootloader unlock.

Same site where they list the eligible models, different tab.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] HBOMB-9000:
Just Pre-Ordered US998 Unlocked

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1357369-REG/lg_lgus998_ausasv_lg_v30_us998_64gb.html
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
I had a look at their developer site. There wasn't a single mention of the V30 or any of the known model numbers for requesting a key. The most recent thing I recognized was the V20 US996.

November 28th is kind of late in my opinion. I'm going to guess that the dual-SIM models will start appearing around that date as well. The specs tab on B&H's site is greyed out currently. I am very curious to see what they list for bands and if that will include band 71.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
It lists all the current models available for bootloader unlock code:

http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703

I've posted that link several times. They won't add the LG V30 to that list until after the carrier unlocked versions are released. With the LG G6, was six weeks after the US997 was released. (May 12-June 29). But right aftee that, BOOM. Root, TWRP, ROMs.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
Hopefully that is updated soon.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] VeixES:
Edit: Wrong thread. Please move along :)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] BobberK:
Can I expect root for V300-L?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] hachiroku:
can we petition that all LG V30 variants be developer capable? like, i'm willing to start an online petition form? if they don't allow developers to build on their device, what would make future developers ever want to use their devices. if LG keeps wanting to loose money every quarter in their mobile phone sales division they'll need to honestly hunker down and loosen up. more users are more users regardless of what type of users they are.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
I wonder if we can find the contact info for the heads of the developer department at LG and start reaching out. I see no reason for them to disallow rooting/unlocking on carrier devices while still allowing on theirs.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] fifteenfathoms:
Sadly, even if LG was willing to ship all variants with unlocked bootloaders, the carriers wouldn't accept it. They wouldn't be able to force-feed their carrier apps and would also allow users more freedom to keep their phones for longer, as flashing leaner and more optimized roms can get even more life out of a phone that may have been having issues (the case with my unlocked nexus 5 thankfully).
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Cobra04:
Your petition would have no effect on LG's contracts with the carriers. Carriers say we'll sell your phone but you gotta put our apps on it and not allow bootloader unlock. They've been doing that for years. Ain't gonna change unless all the device manufacturers grow some balls. But everyone still has the option to buy the unlocked version if they value bootloader unlock.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Killua96:
Nope, yoy can only hope that someone find and exploit to make it possible.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] donky kong 017:
Just read that.

Let's hope it's not correct

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Unlocked-LG-V30-set-to-go-on-sale.259542.0.html
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Killua96:
Considere that H930 should be available starting from mid-November, so it's probably true.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] donky kong 017:
Probably yes. Just hoped it wouldn't be
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
LG will say they already offer developer friendly flagship phones if that's what you want. There's also other reasons:

The problem is LG has to give the carriers some "exclusive" window of time so they can fleece their customers. Apparently this year, it extends past Black Friday/Cyber Monday. THEN, LG will allow us to buy the good stuff they keep in the back. ;)

They don't have the online direct sales model of OnePLus and smaller OEMs. Even Google has to go to carriers (Verizon in the U.S.) to get decent sales. For some reason, U.S. customers want to go to carrier stores to buy their phones -- so LG has to play that game. I stay away from carrier stores myself. The only time I go there is when I need a new (free) SIM card or something. I haven't bought a phone from a carrier store since like 2011.

---------- Post added at 07:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:00 AM ----------

Yeah, in the LG G6 for the US997, LG waited 5 weeks from carrier versions release to put that out for sale (May 12, 2017). Then waited an additional six weeks to put the US997 on the bootloader unlock list (June 29).

And yes, the European version was 2-3 weeks sooner at every stage.

But November 28 for the US998 is 7 weeks from U.S. carrier release. Longer. :rolleyes: And that's still not stating the date they will start allowing bootloader unlock. Hopefully they'll do that SOONER than an additional six weeks... I want a bootloader unlocked, rooted US998 LG V30 for Christmas!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] hachiroku:
thanks for the info...sounds like I might be selling my T-Mobile branded phone and going with an unbranded non carrier phone if that's the only way to live free. hopefully the unbranded phone supports the 600mhz spectrum. that might even give us the ability to unlock/root the T-Mobile branded unit if they're exactly the same. that's the hope at least.

had to pickup the phone as the battery on my Nexus 6P in the last month took a nose dive. also couldn't pass up on the 2 V30's, $500 gift card, and Google daydream package. such a great deal.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] donky kong 017:
lets hope europe gets lucky earlier

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/24/unlocked-lg-v30-now-pre-order-bh-829-99/
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
The specs tab for the US unlocked version is finally available. The bands listed are:

CDMA 2G	CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz

GSM 2G	GSM, GPRS, EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz

CDMA 3G	CDMA2000, EV-DO: 800, 1900 MHz

GSM 3G/3.5G	UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz

4G LTE	LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 20, 25, 66 Bands

I am really disappointed with the lack of LTE bands over all.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Hopefully with root that can be fixed.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] GUGUITOMTG4:
You mean functional unlocked bootloader to flash T-MOUS baseband. Sadly for me it won't fix the lication I live at and wont speed up the rollout of 600MHz spectum on NY.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] t0adman:
Am I looking at the right device here? Updated Expected Availability moved out to Dec 5. Damn!

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1357369-REG/lg_lgus998_ausasv_lg_v30_us998_64gb.html
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Yes

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=74280338
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
Hopefully! My guess is that all of the actual radio hardware across each model is the same and it's just the firmware that restricts the bands.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Mentalmuso:
There are H930's for $899 on eBay. Supposedly the euro carrier unlocked version. But I haven't heard back from the seller about if it's the fully carrier unlocked version or some other. I'm pretty close to jumping to Samsung full time if I have to wait until December for this phone, hopefully it's a true unlocked device. If so I'll buy one and manually root or build twrp and then I'll be happy. It's all really just too complicated and starting to be a little annoying. Does anyone have any insight into these h930 on eBay?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/142533681138
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] karendar:
I went for a carrier locked Canadian version... Sucks to be me. :( I just don't have 1200$ to dump on a phone...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
It might actually be SIM unlocked. If not, call and ask them to unlock it for free. Based on any contract agreed to now, means you don't actually own the device until this time 2019, which fals under the CRTC's new guidelines.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Nosferatu.:
Okay so if I want this phone best to wait for the US998 unlocked option got it.

Now if I'm on T-Mo it seems it's a TBD thing if the modem can be flashed to T-Mo spec for all the LTE bands they support.

My question is if you go with a US unlocked model based on past experiences (G6 etc) can the phone use the carrier branded features like WiFi calling? That's an important thing for me but at the same token I value root. My phone and my wife's phone support carrier features currently (WiFi calling and VoLTE) while we both enjoy root (HTC 10 unlocked and a OnePlus3). I'd hate to get the V30 unlocked, have root, but can't get all the bands nor the WiFi calling.

So, based on past experiences with LG's flagship how has the trend gone?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
With the unlocked US998 not being out yet and won't be for about a month still. There is no concrete information one way or another and there probably won't be until an XDA T-Mobile user buys one and posts about it.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] waylo:
This has been a good reference for what non-Tmobile branded phones can do T-Mobile wifi calling:

http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones

Obviously as no one has their hands on the US998, it's not on there now.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Nosferatu.:
Thanks for that link. Obviously we don't know yet with the V30 but it seems the V20 and G6 previously did support VoLTE on their unlocked models from that list. The article doesn't make any mention of WiFi calling. I'm assuming some of the thread followers here are previous LG owners of the unlocked versions of the recent LG flagships. Has WiFi calling worked on those flagships that weren't T-Mo branded?

I see our OP3 (non-T) and HTC 10 (Unlocked) weren't on that list but both support VoLTE and WiFi Calling. Weird...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] waylo:
Hmmm, good point, I hadn't looked specifically at that before, but the lack of the magenta phone icon next to the unlocked G6 and V20 on that list is not a good sign for wifi calling =(
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Nosferatu.:
Damn...anyone chime in who owns an LG unlocked on T-Mobile care to chime in?

I know usually you'll need an untouched stock ROM (aka no changes to system partition) to get those features working. HTC 10 never was sold initially at least by T-Mobile and they never offered the OP3 but both phones did get the advanced features. Like I said though, if you went custom ROM or changed anything on the system partition it nuked the features.