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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] ekerbuddyeker:
bestbuy / samsung rep told me unlocked is single sim.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] browning:
From Samsung chat:

Info: Thank you for choosing to chat with us. An agent will be with you shortly.

Info: You are now chatting with Srilatha R.

Srilatha R: Hi, thank you for reaching out to Samsung Technical Support. How may I assist you?

You: Hi, I'm interested in purchasing your Note 8. I am considering the unlocked version as I have lines with Sprint and Verizon. Will the US version of the unlocked phone offer dual SIM capability so that I can use one device for both carriers?

Srilatha R: No, US version phones are compatible with single sim feature

You: That's a shame but thank you for confirming. Is there any way to get a version that offers the dual sim capability?

Srilatha R: No, Due to product design of the phone all the US version samsung phones are compatible with only single sim

You: Got it. Thank you.

Srilatha R: But you can try with international version phones

You: How would I purchase an international version?

Srilatha R: You can purchase it from third party websites such as amazon

You: Ok, that makes sense. I owned the Note 7 and am eligible for the trade-in credit. How would I purchase through Amazon and then still get the credit?

Srilatha R: Well, if you choose to trade in then , that can only be done by Samsung.

Srilatha R: As trade in offer is not eligible for other stores or websites

You: Ok, thank you for your help today
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] NHComp:
Unlocked = stock Android?

Does an unlocked phone come with stock Android? Once you commit to a carrier are you stuck with their update cycles or can you update the phone whenever there's a new Android version?

I understand that you can't root it and put custom ROMs on it.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] force70:
Same phone no carrier bloat.

There is no such thing as stock android on a sammy device with factory firmware.

I Wouldnt count root out completely they did manage it on the s7, note 7 and now S8 with locked bootloaders.

sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Corruption Inc:
You can buy the UK version, so said the Samsung rep.

http://www.samsung.com/uk/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] lovehebeboi:
Preordred mine through Samsung website and I'm going to do the trade in, I love my note 5 and it's in the case and protector since day one. Also used ebates, got $82 cash back. I think unlocked is duosim , I just checked on best buy website.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] force70:
There is no unlocked US model

sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] lovehebeboi:
It's on the website. Check it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] force70:
Sorry i meant dual sim us model oops.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] liquidraven:
Is the pre order financing down on Samsung site? Tried multiple computers to pre order but it errors out telling me to try later.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Corruption Inc:
Transcript from Samsung rep:

Info: Thank you for choosing to chat with us. An agent will be with you shortly.

Info: You are now chatting with Prashanth B.

Prashanth B: Hi, thank you for reaching out to Samsung Technical Support. How may I assist you?

Shawn: I need a little bit of information about the Galaxy Note8 so I can make an informed purchase

Prashanth B: Yes I will help you with all the information you need about Note 8.

Shawn: Do the US versions of the Note8 have dual-sim?

Prashanth B: Sorry it's not a dual SIM Shawn.

Shawn: So none of the carrier specific, or the unlocked version sold in the US have dual SIM?

Prashanth B: The USA Samsung phones does not have the dual SIM option and none of the carriers or unlocked option has it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BlueFox721:
Unlocked phones are still manufacturer based, the Samsung software is still there. The carrier specific software is not. The updates will come from Samsung, in our case. This is not a pure android (vanilia) experience. However, the S8+ was able to flash carrier firmwares that give carrier specific functions, such as WiFi calling. It will not be long before the users of the unlocked variant of Note 8 will be able to flash Verizon, Sprint, t-mobile, etc...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Corruption Inc:
If you flash carrier firmware, doesn't that reintroduce carrier bloatware?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] lovehebeboi:
Lol. Thats understandable. Didn't really expect that either. Just saw the best buy page. No big deal anyway :)

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Thanks for letting me know your detailed chat history. Btw I was just telling the other guy there IS US UNLOCKED note8., Which is what he mentioned. And the duo sim is on the best buy info page. So I don't see a point to quote me for this info. But thanks anyway. Wow. People really read all the responses
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MagicSpeller:
I also called Verizon to ask about unlocked phones. Both the rep at the store and the one at Global Support told me that all Verizon phones are unlocked and will work internationally with local SIMs as well as with all US carriers. (Samsung claimed that this is not true and that Verizon phones are locked to work on Verizon only.)

According to Verizon Global Support, the only difference is that Verizon phones are "tuned" to work best on the Verizon network, and that an unlocked phone will not work quite as well. Because of this, if I transferred to another carrier a Verizon phone might not work as well as on the Verizon network. He really went on and on trying to convince me that if I'm not planning to switch I should buy a Verizon phone so that it will "work better" on their network. Was he just trying to sell me their bloatware?

The only disadvantage to an unlocked phone that I've seen here is that I might possibly lose wi-fi calling. That is fairly important to me; does anyone know for sure whether or not that's the case?

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OK, help me out here. The Ebates rebate looked good, so I went to their site to sign up, only to discover that I signed up 13 years ago and have never used it! I had to create a new password and figure out how to use it, but when I access samsung.com from the ebates site I can't find the Note 7 promo page -- everything is full price.

Maybe I misunderstood. You said you're "going to do" the trade-in, but you already pre-ordered? Did you apply the $425 when you ordered, or not?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BlueFox721:
This is usually for users who want to regain carrier functions like WiFi calling VVM (sprint) but still want the ability to jump ship...also by the time we have carrier firmwares we may also have root (even if it is not complete) to de-bloat the carrier apps that are not wanted...I just hope we get a bootloader exploit of some kind
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jpflaw00:
I read somewhere that single sim devices have dedicated expansion slots for SD cards. Dual sims lose that feature since the second sim slot would take over the expansion slot. According to GSMArena, you can use slot 2 for expanding memory: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note8-8505.php#global-dual-sim
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Corruption Inc:
I understand.... Hopefully we will eventually get root, although it looks like android is getting closer to not needing root (for casual users). Bloatware and lag are the biggest reasons I like to root.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] black96ss:
I can't confirm on the s8 or note 8. but I know that you can flash any snap dragon firmware via odin on any snap dragon device. people were flashing unlocked firmware on t mo s7 edges, Verizon s7 edges etc. I even flashed the Verizion nougat beta on t mobile s7 edge at one time. if that is the same case with the note 8, an unlocked variant would be the way to go for sure being you could always flash your carriers firmware on the phone if you wanted you carriers full experience(video calling, wifi calling, LTE bands etc). so it would basically be like a carrier phone with the bloat but it will still be sim unlocked.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dace69:
WiFi Calling Samsung Support

Info: Thank you for choosing to chat with us. *An agent will be with you shortly.

Info: You are now chatting with Dinesh N.

Dinesh N: Hi, I'm Dinesh N. Thank you for reaching out to Samsung Technical Support. How may I assist you?

Don: Hello, I have a question regarding the Galaxy Note 8 unlocked

Dinesh N: Don, I see that you have some queries regarding the unlocked Note 8 phone.

Don: yes

Dinesh N: I'll help you with the information available from my end.

Don: I have pre-ordered the phone already. My question is, I use an AT&T Branded Galaxy S8 right now and I use wifi calling. Will I be able to use Wifi Calling on the Note 8 if it is factory unlocked and without AT&T bloatware?

Dinesh N: Yes, you can use the WiFi calling on the phone, once you receive it & activate from AT&T carrier.

Don: Thank you for the information.

Dinesh N: Is there anything else I can assist you with?

Don: no that was all of my questions.

Don: Cheers!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MagicSpeller:
Does anyone know why, in the U.S., all the carriers' phone choices at samsung.com include two colors, but an unlocked phone comes only in a single color (and the boring black at that!)?

Anybody have any inside information on whether unlocked phones will be available in orchid gray in the near future?:D

Color is the one thing holding me back right now, but I don't want to wait too long and take a chance on the bonuses running out. Very frustrating.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] dace69:
I just saw on bestbuy.com that you can pre-order the Unlocked Note 8 in Black or Gray.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-note8-64gb-unlocked-orchid-gray/6002607.p?skuId=6002607
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] mardukeme:
On the Unlocked s8, you could flash the T-Mobile modem, csc file, and a few apks to get video calling working. There's a thread here on xda showing how to do it.

Also with 4x4 mimo, and 256 since Verizon, and Att are starting to roll it out too, you would think the Unlocked Note 8 would support it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bambam126:
Just pre ordered from Sammy website

So I Took the offer since I had the note 7
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Leykis:
Nice! I did the same.

I also opted for the unlocked version. Does the unlocked version allow you to root the phone so you can do stuff like disable that stupid Bixby button that I'm always accidentally pressing on my S8+?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] force70:
It might get root at some point.. but it tooks mos to get it on the S8.

All the snapdragon versions have locked bootloaders

sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BlueFox721:
The unlocked version is the same as most new Samsung phones and will come with a locked bootloader. This makes it difficult to root but not impossible. The S8+ has root and we will too...the unlocked versions tend to get more development though
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Leykis:
Ok, I got it. But even though the bootloader is locked its still best to get the unlocked version correct? Because if and when root becomes possible it will only work on the unlocked version of the phone, correct?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] MagicSpeller:
Thanks. That's interesting, but it doesn't help me because if I order it from Best Buy I don't get the Note7-owner discount.

It does tell me, though, that orchid gray is available; it's strange, though, that Best Buy would have it but Samsung itself seemingly is out of stock.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BlueFox721:
In some cases, the unlocked versions gained root first, but usually that leads to the carrier specific roots. If one gains root the others soon follow. It does seem that more development follows the unlocked versions than the carriers for flagship devices.

The main reasons to get unlocked is to avoid carrier bloatware and to be able to jump ship to other carriers. If the unlocked version gains root first, it's a much appreciated bonus. I hope we get a leaked engineering or development bootloader leak.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BlueFox721:
There is some confirmation that the unlocked variant will have all carrier bands. The link below shows confirmation that the HPUE capability, Sprint quality LTE bands are working see below:

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s8/help/unlocked-model-sm-g950u1-support-hpue-t3651630/page1

If this is true, I would assume that AT&T and Verizon bands are there as well...even if not seen on white paper shared earlier
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BigMosley:
When you ordered your Unlocked Note8 yesterday did it say it won't ship until the week of September 25th? I ordered mine today and at the checkout screen (right before payment) it said it won't ship until the week of September 25th but my email confirmation says pre-orders will ship September 11th? ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BlueFox721:
My order had the 11th...

Now it shows "ORDER IS DELIVERED NEXT BUSINESS DAY FROM SHIPPED DATE"
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] wepa:
Mine says 9/4
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BigMosley:
Where did you order? Can you post a screenshot?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BlueFox721:
The page linked below states that sprint confirmed pre-order shipping to begin on the 5th:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gottabemobile.com/best-samsung-galaxy-note-8-deals/amp/

Got to the last paragraph.

Sprint Press Release:

http://investors.sprint.com/news-an...-12-Payments-with-Galaxy-Forever/default.aspx
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] wepa:
View attachment 4255687

At&t website
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] borijess:
Sept 4th is labor day.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] bambam126:
Samsung don’t even know

From a Samsung rep
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] texasez:
Samsung gave me $170 more for note 5 trade in than Verizon.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Mike02z:
The release date is 9/15. My Verizon pre order says it will arrive 9/14. This is typical of VZ pre orders. They usually arrive the day before the official go live date. The other sites are simply wrong. No one will be getting their Note 8 the week of Labor day. Samsung has already made this official so not sure why anyone would believe their carrier. They likely have it setup so that all pre orders show delivery in 2 weeks. Don't get all excited. In the US you likely won't see any Note 8's before the 13th-15th.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BigMosley:
Well, per Samsung.com the people who pre-order through them and who were Note 7 owners get faster shipping and will "be the first to enjoy your new phone". My order confirmation says the device will ship September 11th with free 2 day shipping so September 13th will be delivery day. This is not too far-fetched but some of the Sprint and AT&T threads are saying September 4th-6th seems unlikely and if its true I will be royally pissed if they get the phone before people who ordered directly from Samsung...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Mike02z:
Yup, the 13th is likely. The 9/4-9/6 will not happen in my opinion.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BlueFox721:
I like how it says "free priority shipping", I had to pay $14.00 for priority shipping...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BigMosley:
My first order was the Verizon version with that $14 shipping but I cancelled it and went with the Unlocked version with standard free shipping. I think they meant the free shipping was "priority" 2 day and the $14 shipping was "expedited" 1 day. I'll keep my $14 if it's only a 1 day difference.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BlueFox721:
Yeah...priority is two day
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] robweis:
Switched from unlocked

I pre-ordered unlocked version on Sammy site a few cancelled today. Reason, even tho I figure all will be well I fear missing out on wifi calling ECT. Another reason I fear updates or delayed Sammy track record even worst Tha. Verizon. And most importantly, I wanted orchrid grey. Didn't want a finger magnet black phone. I guess another one is, as bad big red is, I get a phone overnight if there is any issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] denisiel:
Hi, read through the thread but am still uncertain which version to buy. I currently use a prepaid SIM and travel to Asia frequently (China and Hong Kong). I do not have a carrier contract and do not wish to get into a long term contract. Would like wifi calling and video calling. Dual SIM would be ideal but not a requirement. Orchid Grey or any color other than black preferred.

Should I buy an unlocked phone directly from Samsung (but they offer black only)? Does it have wifi calling? How can you tell from the specs?

Or get the unlocked version from Best Buy (can choose Orchid Grey)? Does it have wifi calling?

Get the UK version (dual SIM) - and does it have wifi calling?

Or is there a carrier I need to contract with in order to get an unlocked version with wifi and video calling (if so, which carrier and how do I get it unlocked)?

Thanks in advance!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BigMosley:
I have contact Verizon, Samsung and Best Buy and all of them said NO features such as Wifi calling. VoLTE or WiFi tethering will be a problem on the unlocked version. I am also swinging by my local Best Buy this afternoon to get a first look at the beast at the Samsung counter and I will speak with the Samsung representative directly about this issue. All in all, when I get the device and IF there are any issues regarding this I will contact Samsung and plead my case (including the backup info I have from them) and not only send me the Verizon variant next day shipping but I will also make them give me a discount on the device. I was one of the Note 7 owners and having to go through this mixed information BS is really leaving another bad taste in my mouth with Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] XATAGuy:
I need dual sim. This narrows my choices. It looks like the only international unlocked variant I can find doesn't have LTE band 20. Do I need LTE band 20 for the device to work on U.S. AT&T LTE? Will I be able to mod the device to get band 20 and data tethering?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Steigerelli:
I paid $14.00 as well for 1 Day Shipping. But, I didn't have a phone to turn in as I went back to a Note 4 (not on the list) after I turned in my Note 7. So, I'm not even sure if they recognized me as a former Note 7 owner.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jackdforme:
Where did it say note 7 owners would ship earlier?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BigMosley:
http://www.samsung.com/us/galaxy/note8/Note7Promo/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jackdforme:
Seems like that just means 2 day shipping. Maybe the 11th out date is what they mean though.

Either way I'm guessing T-Mo still beats them to the punch. They always do.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BigMosley:
I would be fine with September 13th delivery, my concern is when I ordered the Unlocked version the website said not until the week of September 25th yet my order confirmation email says it will ship September 11th. We shall see...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jackdforme:
My only concern is some odd thing not working with VZ on the unlocked. Also, watching T-Mo get their phones and probably updates first.

I really want Oreo more for the power stabilization than anything. It's a big change that 3300mah on big ass bright ass screen is going to need.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] cherylbaker:
I am still not sure about this. If i buy the unlocked version for sprint or if i buy the locked version and than ask sprint to unlock it is there a difference?

Looks like i unfortunately be staying with sprint. This means as i understand it no exynos for me. So rooting and all that is gone.

Any help on this would be great.

Sent from my SM-N910P using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Steigerelli:
There's an entire thread about the difference between Unlocked vs. International https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-8/help/snapdragon-exynos-t3661380, but I'll try and give you the short North American explanation. The US Unlocked version is a carrier unlocked Snapdragon device with a locked bootloader. You are on Sprint's network like me, therefore you cannot use an Exynos device (not compatible with Sprint and Verizon's CDMA networks). If you wanted to jump to T-Mobile or AT&T, you could pursue purchasing the International Exynos Note 8 which is a completely different device from the US Unlocked Note 8 (search the link above for ways to purchase this version).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] xHoLyx:
I've jumped on the unlocked version today, paid in full minus the discount (previous note 7 owner), and it says it will ship on week of Oct 1st LOL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] KOLIOSIS:
FWIW, the US Unlocked Note8 works on all 4 of the major US Carriers, but, as you already know, development will likely be limited :

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...locked-midnight-black/6002605.p?skuId=6002605

At least It's Bloat free & flexible, regarding network compatibility & I imagine there is some measure of compatibility outside of the US.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] Dark Jedi:
I don't think they will unlock it until the phone is paid in full. That's what Verizon told me years ago.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] cherylbaker:
My question still is.. if i buy the locked us version and than get it unlocked how would that differ from purchasing the unlocked version

Sent from my SM-N910P using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2

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If you buy an unlocked phone do you just buy a sim card for your carrier and your done or do you have to install something for the carrier your going to?

Sent from my SM-N910P using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] KOLIOSIS:
With GSM carriers, you just drop in your SIM Card & you're good to go (may have to enter the appropriate APN).

For Sprint & VZW, IDK, but, it will work on their networks.

I'm not sure as to exactly what you have to do, if anything, to get the phone to work on VZW/Sprint, you might wanna give the S8/S8 + forums a look.

Nothing regarding the phone needs to be done with Sprint/VZW, the phone is fully SIM Unlocked, any steps that might need to be taken are provider/network related.

EDIT: [MENTION=276587]cherylbaker[/MENTION]

Check out this link, BYOD for Sprint:

https://www.sprint.com/en/landings/bring-your-own-phone.html
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] BigMosley:
I have Verizon and I will need to get another Nano SIM card from them, I actually did a chat on Verizon this morning and the SIM card is free (either online shipped to you or free store pickup) but they told me I need my new phone in hand to prove I need another SIM card, they wont just give you another SIM card. This is a minor inconvenience, I will just get my new phone and set it up completely via Wifi then run over to Verizon and get the new SIM for free.