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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Found this out a couple of weeks ago... There are rumors that about 5 months ago someone cracked the bootloader and rooted a Verizon LG G6, but for their own reasons chose not to publish the method. Knowing the person who told me, I have no reason to doubt it. But, no, I don't know how they did it, as I am not a dev.

This of course leads to a bunch of questions. Is it possible some of the 2017 LG flagship (G6, V30) carrier models have ADB flash commands if you can get past the bootloader? We know the T-mobile LG G6 and LG V30 do not, because the bootloader is easily unlocked and both are ADB crippled. We just assumed all the other carrier modes were the same way, because no one has cracked the bootloader and published the results.

Or this person cracked the bootloader and found some other way to root. (Which, knowing his skills is most probably the way he went.) They didn't go any further than that, but they did unlock the bootloader and root a Verizon LG G6.

I'm not telling you this to hold out false hope for the carrier-branded LG V30. Just the opposite. Anything is possible, but the "open market" variants are guaranteed for dev work. Whereas, 7 months after release the carrier-branded LG G6 still don't have any published root, but the open market variants do.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] SOCOM-HERO:
Sounds far fetched that someone would crack the bl and root the device and no one would know about it until now. But, good for him, I guess. If only people would share their work! I get the stigma and risks, but c'mon!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
I agree! I don't get why someone would take the time to find a way to root a device and then not share. XDA is all about helping others as well as things like obtaining root access, custom ROM's, and mods to get the most out of your device, whatever it might be.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
It's not farfetched if you knew his work. If he says he did it (unlocked bootloader and rooted Verizon LG G6), he did it. He did it to prove it could be done, but for his own reasons chose not to share it. That's his prerogative. Believe me, he doesn't need any more acclaim. (He already has 10k-20k "thanks" on XDA. I've thanked him many times myself.) He's very busy with the other bootloader unlock stuff he's doing.

But I'm not here to speak for him or provide proof of something a person doesn't wish to make public.

I'm actually encouraging people to buy the LG V30 open market versions.

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He helps plenty of people. Let's just say some in the LG forums seem have a reputation for being jerks? (I've been told that by others, I'm not saying it.) So, maybe a talented dev with lots of other work going on anyway doesn't need the hassle.

I do know when I started trying to help people and offer information in this forum here I had to respond to a lot of flamers. They didn't like that I posted proof (links to sources) of what I was saying, they didn't like "long" posts with lots of information. Very strange.

In this case, I can't post proof and have no desire to since I'm not trying to prove anything. ;) I strongly encourage people to buy the "open market" versions of the LG V30.

IF this dev or some other does root carrier branded LG V30 AND publishes the method, then that's just a bonus to what dev work we know is guaranteed.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] gthing:
Because if you have a critical vulnerability you can sell it to the FBI for a million bucks next time a G6 user shoots up a shopping mall.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] lwinstead:
I'd like to chime in here. Last Friday, Nov 17, I picked up a Verizon LG V30 as a replacement for a carrier unlocked HTC U11 I recently purchased outright from HTC's website. The U11 was "compatible" with Verizon's network, but was limited to LTE band 13 (even though all bands are available in hardware). I'm not sure what happened, but all of a sudden my U11 stopped working on Verizon and I had to send it back. This new LG V30 is one hot mamma of a phone, and I'd MUCH rather have the carrier unlocked version, but my experience with the U11 is severely tainting my expectation of the carrier unlocked V30. I know I'm speculating, but I'm very afraid the carrier unlocked V30 will be band-limited by Verizon and have issues. If that's the case, I'd be very at risk of quickly having a lemon and having to do the return-buy-return-buy dance for who knows how long.

...

OR I stick with the Verizon V30 which will be limited in other ways, but supported by both LG and Verizon (I know, I know... you don't really get "support" from your jailor...).

*SIGH*
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
If you are concerned about carrier radio support, then go with the Verizon version. The key thing to ensuring you get yourself a good V30/V30+ is to test the screen before you leave the store. That can be done by the following method.

The last 3 digits will be different for the Verizon version. The Verizon model number is VS996, so the code you enter into the dialer will be: *#546368#*996#
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] lwinstead:
JCSWW, I'm glad you mentioned that, but I'm personally pretty satisfied with my screen. Or will be as long as I can resist the urge to run that test. ...ARGH! I can't resist!

Actually, I typed that string into the dialer, but I get a message from Verizon Wireless that the call cannot be completed as dialed.

In any case, if I'm being perfectly subjective, the screen is brighter/less gray on the lower 3rd of the screen (which means it's grayer on the upper 2/3rd), but I only notice it on a WHITE background. So it's actually still usable, ya know? I'm really REALLY anal about such things, but I"m also 41 and I have to learn to deal with life eventually.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] 20degrees:
No!!! Fight it till the end! ?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
Hmmm. When you check the model number in the Settings. Do you have something different than VS996? Maybe those settings are disabled in the Verizon model.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] lwinstead:
20degrees, what? My hearing is going, too. XD

JC, my model number (aka "Software Version") is VS99610c. I'll try adding one-zero at the end and see what it does.

Edit: no go; same result if I dial *#546368#*99610#
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Don't call that number. You just enter it and the menu pops up, or should.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] lwinstead:
Ok, I just typed it and waited. The only thing that happened was a Christmas elf walked by my window and flipped me off. But no hidden menu on the phone.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Verizon is why we can't have nice things.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] debugger919:
wish my phone had that function - really wanna see the elf!!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
You didn't by any chance use that stupid* debloating app, did you?

It disables the LG hidden menu if you blithely check everything on the list. There's several OTHER things in that list that should NOT be disabled.

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=74588166

______

*"stupid" if you click everything on the list. Some things should NOT be disabled and should be left running. See list of some things in that link above.

Others should not be disabled, but could safely be hibernated with Greenify (but still there when you need them).

Do NOT disable EVERYTHING on that list.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] lwinstead:
Nah, no debloating app, and yes, Verizon is the red devil. I love to hate them. On the other hand, I accomplished running a test at https://www.ledr.com/colours/multi.htm. Yeah, there's slight discoloration happening, but I think I'm better off than most. I'll post pics after my son's bball game.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] 20degrees:
That code doesn't seem to work on my Sprint v30+ either.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
The Sprint model is LS998, so the code would be: *#546368#*998#, if it works. If I had to guess, the code only seems to work on devices with model numbers starting with H, like the H932SV and H933.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I thought someone with U.S.Cellular got the hidden menu to work? I may be wrong.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
I think you are right. The US Cellular model is the US998 so no H.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] lwinstead:
I took some pictures with an old Sony DSC-H5 of my V30 screen using the gray color screens at www.ledr.com. First let me just say that I THOUGHT these were really steady shots. Boy was I wrong. Anyway, as you can see, there clearly...is...um...some...uh...discoloration... I'm sorry, this is now WAAY off topic. Please see the pics, but I gotta stop with the screen issues. :/

(Pic 1: gray at 0% bright; Pic 2: gray at ~50% bright; Pic 3: gray at 100% bright)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
Yup. That was me. Works fine.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Meakii:
Official bootloader unlock released :good: wonder what 'some European market' is classed as?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] 20degrees:
Link?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Meakii:
First post ;)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
The only one that matters. ;)

http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703

It's happening!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] 20degrees:
That's awesome. Congrats to you that waited for the unlocked version.

I'd like root, but I'm ok with a free v30+ vs root.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Here's the interesting point. We KNEW the European H930 would be added, as will the "open market" US998. However, what's different is LG is also adding the H930G, which is a V30+ model. This is the first time they have added a European letter variant. Usually any letters after the model number disqualify that phone from being on the bootloader unlock list.

I didn't know this was going to happen, but I did hope -- and still do -- that LG adds a V30+ (preferably in black) to the "open market" US998 options. This is one of the reasons

I only ordered ONE LG V30 US998 yesterday

and am holding out until next month to order the 2nd one. (One for my wife, one for me. The better one for me -- whether later manufacture date and/or more storage.)

I know

B&H Photo has been listing this US998

for like THREE months now (I posted

a screenshot in THIS thread in early September

), and only in 64GB. But LG has still NOT officially announced this "open market" US998 phone, and no other sites except for B&H list it, even though there WILL be other authorized retailers. I'm hoping for a V30+ surprise when LG does officially announce/release that model. ;)

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Guess you have to submit your IMEI to see if it qualifies. I know any H930 sold through carriers probably will not qualify.

Just like the U.S. Cellular US998 has the same model number as the "open market" US998. But run that IMEI and the U.S. Cellular model will not qualify.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] igotroot:
I decided to contact LG directly about the bootloader be unlocked for the lgv30 and this is what they responded with:

Hello,

Thank you for contacting us.

In accordance with LG's policy, you can only unlock bootloader for the supported devices.

In case of the V30, H930 for some European market and H930G (Italy only) are now supported.

If there are any changes to the supported devices, we will let you know via our website.

Best Regards,

LG Developer site Team

So yes it is an exciting moment however I to decided to get the buy one get one free offer from T-Mobile for the lgv30 Plus. The free phone was worth the gamble.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ant78:
Hoping the UK variant gets a unlocked bootloader
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
What's the model number of the UK variant? I know one retailer in UK was selling the H930.

I'm pretty sure all the LG V30 variants already released that will be on bootloader unlock list are now on the list.

Open market US998 has not been released yet (December 5), and will also be placed on the list.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] piyush7243:
Any chance of them unlocking the carrier unlocked Dual Sim versions. I have never seen them unlocking those.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ant78:
Not sure, will check when i get home but its looking promising!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] SOCOM-HERO:
This is exciting news. I need to set a reminder to check back on Dec 5th!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
To be clear, that's probably when the "open market" LG V30 (and hopefully V30+) US998 will be released. LG has not stated anything officially in that regard, all the information we have is from B&H Photo pre-order page.

Probably the open market US998 will not be added to LG bootloader unlock list immediately.

For the European LG V30 H930, it took about 3 weeks after release (released first week of November, added to the list November 27).

For the North America "open market" LG G6 US997 earlier this year, took six weeks from release (mid-May) to LG Bootloader Unlock list (very end of June).

Yes, I would be pleasantly surprised if LG did add it to the bootloader unlock list immediately.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] iOR3K:
I was watching this V30 review by MobileTechReview and it seems that she has the US998 in her hands.

Look at 3:22 :

Link to the Review

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/6p8m_QUgLKE?t=202[/YOUTUBE]
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Yes, that is the model LG loaned out to reviewers in U.S./Canada even before release back in August. At that point, they were pre-production models US998. (Some reviewers specifically mentioned the model number in their reviews.)

If LG supplied this production model for her to review (November), then again probably US998. Wouldn't have any carrier bloatware, at least. ;)

IF LG didn't supply it to her, then she got it from U.S. Cellular (same model number, but not eligible for bootloader unlock.)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Release date of the LG V30 US998 (North America "open market", official carrier unlocked variant) now says THIS FRIDAY December 1 on the B&H Photo website.

Previously was NEXT TUESDAY, December 5.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Duplicate post.

But hopefully the news above means it will be placed on the bootloader unlock list even sooner! ;)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
I am looking forward to seeing what bands it fully supports as well as the screen feedback. Hopefully these units are as close to perfect being released almost a couple of months after the carrier launch.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Also seems like they reduced the price a few dollars. I have an earlier screenshot showing $829, now it's $819.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
Hopefully at least one more color option appears as well.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] initialjie:
Are u confirm that this model can be bootloader unlocked?

And will it ship with B&O earphone and Day Dream VR?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
No headphones and no VR headset.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] initialjie:
Thank you.

And what about bootloader unlocked?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] oOII TAHA IIOo:
The H930 model can be unlocked, comes with B&O earphones too
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] initialjie:
And what about US998, can it also be unlocked? I mean bootloader unlocked.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] oOII TAHA IIOo:
Not yet. Keep checking this link to see if LG update the US998's capability to be bootloader unlocked. The H930/G just got it 4 days ago.

http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] initialjie:
THX, how long did the H930/G get support since they released?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] oOII TAHA IIOo:
About 3 weeks after release
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Then stop giving the SAME WRONG ANSWER. ;) Or, at the least, it's a very misleading incomplete answer. I corrected you once, and then you did it again, in this thread. I then corrected you again.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73652182&postcount=7

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73667317&postcount=9

I refuted your misinformation twice with proof. So, don't get mad at me. :rolleyes:

T-mobile/LG removed the ability to flash any useful fastboot commands to install TWRP, root, etc. on the LG G6. It was released six months ago and still doesn't have root or TWRP. You are telling people the T-mobile LG V30 will be useful to them, based on the LG G6! -- when it will NOT be, based upon the history of the T-mobile LG G6.

I am helping people by correcting YOUR misinformation. More people now know NOT to buy the T-mobile V30 if they want root, TWRP, custom ROMs, kernels. The T-mobile LG V6 still does NOT have any of that. There's

22 pages on a "root bounty" thread

for the T-mobile LG G6 and no solution yet. Why would you tell people to walk into a frustrating situation like that?

Only the carrier unlocked versions of the LG V30 will have any of that (root, TWRP, custom ROMs, kernels), unless some yet-unknown exploit is found. And who can predict that?

I want to drop this but I'm going to set the record straight. PLEASE Stop telling people to buy the T-mobile variant LG V30 if they care about dev work. You practically admittted

you don't really care about dev work

, so there's the difference.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Josh McGrath:
There are other models that have an unlocked bootloader.

An unlocked bootloader is an unlocked bootloader even if the adb commands are not there. Remember the G5? (TMobile) unlocked bootloader (via fastboot oem unlock) can TWRP be flashed once root was achieved? Yes.

TMobile Sony device, locked bootloader. Root obtained, yet TWRP was not flashable, as was nothing else.

I do agree with you on the "true" bootloader unlocked term though. But it's still bootloader unlocked.

I am also with you, betting the V30 and all lg phones will be bootloader locked from now on.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Poloasis:
About the US international unlock version of the LG V30, will this be sold in the US or it would have to be ordered internationally?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
If you read the thread you are posting in, you know the LG V30 U.S. carrier unlocked version (LG V30 US998) is already listed on one U.S retailer website. No price yet, but it's listed:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73642190&postcount=6

LG V30 US998 will be also sold by others, just like the U.S. LG G6 U.S. carrier unlocked version is sold by various retailers. You will also be able to find dealers selling it new on eBay and Amazon.

You can also buy it

straight from LG, just like the carrier unlocked LG G6.

The U.S. carrier unlocked LG V30 is not listed yet on LG website because it's not been announced by LG yet. So, we're lucky B&H maybe messed up and listed it on their website already. ;) You can

have them (B&H) send you a notification

when it's available for sale.

In my personal experience, if you wait a few weeks after release, the eBay dealer prices drop to realistic "street prices", while Amazon and retailer prices stay at MSRP. It's still new phones -- but eBay dealers want to move merchandise and will take less profit. And I'm not talking about "Joe Smith" selling a new phone and no reputation points, I'm talking about professional cell phone dealers who have sold THOUSANDS of phones and have 99% positive reviews.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] starscalling:
um unless the unlocked one also hits that 600mhz spectrum it's worthless imo. i'm getting this phone. i'm probably getting the tmob version of this phone. I trust the swarm to work it out.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Already been discussed. Might be possible to flash T-Mobile radio over unlocked version, to enable that band 71. A dev can figure that out.

Personally, I don't need it as I'm on AT&T. And I'm getting the carrier unlocked version, not the AT&T version because I care about unlocked bootloader, root, custom ROMs and other dev work.

And don't reply that the T-MOBILE version will have unlocked bootloader... :p The T-Mobile LG G6 shows that's bull. Six months later,

still no root, no custom ROMs you can install on the T-mobile LG G6.

22 pages of Root Bounty thread for T-mobile LG G6

and still not solved.There's still no root for the T-mobile LG G6 released MONTHS ago, because all the fastboot commands have been disabled.

OK, to get technically granular the T-mobile LG G6 bootloader can be "unlocked" but nothing else can be done:

In effect,the phone is still locked down. So, months later still NO root, no TWRP, nothing can be done.

I won't buy a phone I can't root from Day 1. It will be MY phone, not the carrier's, not the manufacturer's phone. It will be my phone.

Whereas the

U.S./European carrier unlocked versions of the LG G have tons of dev work

-- because they are the only LG eligible for real bootloader unlock. The LG V30 will be the same.

However if you don't care about that, you'll still be able to buy T-Mobile version online through dealers for probably cheaper than T-Mobile carrier store.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] starscalling:
on the upside, i did see confirmation today on twitter via tmobile the unlocked v30 will have 600mhz spectrum :laugh: :good:

[edit]

thus plans have officially changed, i'm

def

getting the unlocked version. I

def

need root+rom ~_^;
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I figured this -- since it is supposed to be the U.S. carrier unlocked version that you can TAKE to T-mobile. But I couldn't state it definitely based on my own assumptions.

Can you find and post the Twitter link? I'm sure some people will question that, and we need proof. I believe you, I just want to be able to show others! Thank you!

EDIT: HERE YOU GO:

https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/906909686682624000
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
NO, you won't. U.S. carrier unlocked version (US998) will have T-mobile's 600 Mhz LTE band 71.

LG V30 US998 will have ALL the U.S. carrier bands, so you can take it to any carrier you wish -- even T-mobile. Otherwise it would be pointless to have a U.S. unlocked carrier version if there were any carrier bands it did not have.

Confirmed by T-mobile via Twitter. Thanks to [MENTION=772402]starscalling[/MENTION] for giving us the info. I found the Twitter post he saw.

https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/906909686682624000

He says you can buy it "directly from LG unlocked", but you can also buy it online from other retailers like B&H Photo, Amazon, etc. It's the same LG G6 US998 U.S. unlocked carrier model. IF it makes you feel better to buy it from LG, that's fine.

Since we KNOW the U.S. carrier unlocked version will also qualify for LG's REAL bootloader unlock (unlike T-mobile's faux bootloader unlock on the LG G6) THAT is the one to buy.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] harpin14789:
Thank You for this wonderful information. I'm a nexus 6 owner who is looking for an upgrade and the V30 looks really compelling.

Are you sure that the US998 Carrier unlocked version of the V30 will support band 71? I'm checking on gsmarena, devicespecifications.com,etc. None of them list band 71.

I see the twitter post but..why don't all these have it yet? Just a bit confused. Have developed Roms for nexus 6. If US998 gets unlocked bootloader, and band 71. I'm definitely getting it and hope to help in development.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Because while the model number is known, LG has not actually announced or released the carrier unlocked version, yet.

Do you believe those sites or T-Mobile with their own post today? I bet all those sites will update their information to reflect T-Mobile statement. You're either hearing here first or T-Mobile is clueless about their own network. ;)

I would bet T-Mobile has more information from LG about the LG V30 than those sites.

Even one well-known site (cough) questioned whether the LG V30 actually had 1.6 camera. Of course it did. So, if T-Mobile says the unlocked version has 600 Khz LTE band 71, I would believe them before any news website.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] harpin14789:
I believe tmobile. :D What device do you currently have and are you also planning to get the US998?