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[Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers] manasn:
Hello, I'm on the fence here.

Here I sit with my dear moto g4 play which I am about to root.

The only question standing in my way is regarding future nougat update (In case Lenovo actually releases it).

Below are my questions.

If I only root my phone now will I be able to get OTA once I restore the stock recovery?

I do not wish to try new roms but just have the root and be able to easily get future nougat update when it arrives, what would be the best way to do this?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] louiscar:
I seem to have been at this for hours now. I finally got Xposed framework on my Tab S and Note 4 and decided to try Marshmallow SD fix

https://xdaforums.com/xposed/modules/xposed-marshmallow-sd-fix-write-t3403263/page29

and then EXT SD fix

https://xdaforums.com/android/software/fix-extsd-fix-v1-0b-2016-01-18-t3296266

In each case going to Titanium backup it just doesn't work - I get the same old "Folder is not writable" message for anything on the SD card.

Since many people are having success - I'm assuming this is because of the Samsung version of Xposed framework ?

I don't know but nothing I do seems to work.

Any suggestions / advice - has anyone got this to work on their tab s or note 4?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
If it's lollipop you need the sdcard fix. If it's mm you just need to allow write permissions to the app.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] louiscar:
I'm not sure I understand that. Are you talking about extsd or marshmallow fix ? Also there are no permissions to set other than the ones shown. For Titanium those are all set to on. Ie. Storage.

Is there a specific 'write' permission elsewhere that I've missed?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
Any app that wishes to write to the external storage should show a dialog requesting permission to the ext sd after that it will have full write access.

Any app that doesn't isn't mm compatible.

Which folder path are you trying to use?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] louiscar:
The Titanium problem is fairly common. if all apps need to be was mm compatible then we wouldn't need a fix for the SD cards I would have thought.

But coming to Titanium itself I can select the old folder with is exsdcard/titaniumbackup but Titanium will tell me this has no write access but I can use it to read from and restore.

There is no location that Titanium will use or see on the extsdcard. What one has to do to is to copy the contents of your backup folder to the internal card then select that as the backup folder in Tba. Then you have elect to change the backup folder but choosing DocumentProvider storage. At this point you then have to create a folder - an existing folder is no good. Once created it will copy the contents of the internal folder to the extsdcard. Apart from the fact that this 'workaround' is much slower it is also inconvenient and any kind of change for whatever reason in the backup folder means that you can't just switch to the old one you have to go through the whole creation process.

As far as I am concerned this is why I wanted an SD card fix but I also understand to some point your view and it does make some sense. However it is confusing. When this nightmare started with Kitkat I understood that apps were allowed their own folder but couldn't affect or write to other folders. Also they were media folders only. This as I remember also affected file managers which then couldn't do their intended job.

With MM and without any fix Solid explorer can and does have full access to the sd card and can write in any folder from what I can see. Other apps seem to possibly access with documentprovider permissions - I'm not sure but many appear to have no problems but the pop up is very much like the documentprovider - choose a folder. So I am confused why Titanium has these problems and can understand a point of view that they haven't adapted as they should have perhaps but then I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have done what they can with the features /tools they have for one of the most popular backup programs..

Either way, at the end of the day I was really hoping I could have got a fix which worked much like sdcard fix on Kitkat which stopped the nonsense and Google's insistence that they know best how we can and should use our SD cards.

And indeed for many people Marshmallow fix and or EXTSD appear to work for a lot of people in the way I was hoping - hence the creation of this thread because

1) it certainly doesn't for both my Samsung devices and

2) Many people with Samsungs (and some other devices) appear to be having the same difficulty.

I don't understand what has been done on MM to make it so difficult to overcome the problem but obviously it appears Google is just plain bloody minded and trying to make it more foolproof.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
The fix for KitKat and lollipop isn't needed for MM because Google did in fact listen to people griping about the ext card restrictions.

MM will give full access to properly coded apps.

I have many different devices running MM and all gave write access to the ext sdcard including TB, which I use regularly.

However that doesn't mean to say I haven't had the issue you speak of. I may have even had it with TB.

The folder path I use in this case is mnt/media_rw/

This path is almost always accessible by apps and is the path I'm using right now for TB.

If that doesn't work try disabling 'mount namespace separation' in SuperSU settings then reboot also make sure your TB is up to date.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] louiscar:
Ok understood.

I'm guessing then that the so called Marshmallow fix via xposed is to get older apps which may not be updated to work

Ok so now the plot thickens and I've no idea what is going on here. Tba says when I navigate to this folder [and I'm assuming that the choice when asked is "filesystem storage" and not "Filesystem storage - Media" (which only offers internal memory anyway)]

"This folder cannot be accessed"

and that is before getting to the external sd card which would be the number (F91E-D472) in my case. ie. mnt/media-rw

Needless to say - Solid explorer can see this and navigate to the sd card no problem.

This happens on both Note 4 and TAB s and I'm really curious now because something on my systems are different.

Sure, namespace is unchecked - did that on both devices some time ago, and Tba is up to date.

Pretty damn confused now :confused:
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
Have you tried placing the TB folder on your ext sdcard then used the detect button (whole device) in preferences to detect the folder and then select it under mnt/media_rw?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] louiscar:
This was the method I used as soon as I updated to MM and didn't notice the "this folder is not writable" message.

However, the option to choose mnt/media_rw isn't available. If I use Detect > whole device I'll be offered :

/storage/F91E-D472/Titaniumbackup

perhaps I'd see the other option under normal circumstances but Tba is not able to access that path so wouldn't find it in a search ... I guess
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] louiscar:
Aha! could this be the problem?

see post #15

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/917126/write-to-external-sd-restriction-in-marshmallow/

What is your sd card formatted as - mine is FAT32 so perhaps I need to go exfat?

..but then such links show that I'm certainly not alone - this one actually confirms that tb has this write problems and leads to the Documentprovider solution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GATqU1_xzqA
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
ExFAT. Anything above 4gb should be ExFAT.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] louiscar:
curiously I set permissions to 777 for the mnt/media_rw and titanium can go there but any further (even though I've done the same for the sdcard folder - nada!

and sadly after converting to exfat - mnt/media_rw .... "this folder cannot be accessed"

Not sure what else I can do.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] vortex-5:
I'm about to provision my One Plus 5 for use I will be running it with TWRP a unencrypted data partition (makes restores easier) and root via Magisk day one.

I'm curious if I'm running it in this configuration when an OTA comes down the pipe will it do any of the following?

re apply fastboot oem lock?

flash the recovery to stock recovery?

remove magisk?

re-enable dm-verity?

Curious if the process after an OTA apply is to re-flash TWRP potentially re-apply magisk? Does applying ota mess with your data partition if you already decrypted it?

Also was thinking about leaving the data partition decrypted so I can push things to it via ADB or manipulate it when it's in a non-functional state can anyone here comment on if that's still possible while encrypted? And if so what dis-advantages of leaving it encrypted I hear one is you have to remove the lock screen password before you create a backup since the keys are not backed up and you might be locked out after a restore.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] vortex-5:
With some more research I've answered my own question I'll put them here in case anyone wants to refer to them in the future.

TWRP users will lose TWRP after a flash of the OTA.

Root will be lost regardless if you flash using TWRP or stock.

Data is not touched during flash so it should stay as is.

DM-verity requirement is unknown.

For rooted users it's better to do a full flash with TWRP OTA through TWRP will cause a problem.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] ultramag69:
Actually, you won't get the small incremental OTA, you will download the complete 1.5 - 2gb rom... This happens when you have root whether you have got TWRP or stock recovery.

Root will always be lost, yes but if you flash with TWRP you can flash magisk oe SuperSU immediately afterwards to gain root again. Not having TWRP you will need to either boot TWRP or install it to install root again.

DM-Verity, I have never had any problems with this after flashing and then rooting...
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] stefr07:
I dirty flash the 4.5.10 and i had to reflash the ROM + no_verity_op5.zip. My first and only issue was a sort of bootlop to the recovery.
[OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers] Rhoban:
So wait. If I flash the OTA, then flash Magisk, I will have root and lose TWRP, right?

Then could I use some app like Flashify or the TWRP app to install the recovery?

I don't own a PC right now and want to know if it's possible.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] louiscar:
I seem to have been at this for hours now. I finally got Xposed framework on my Tab S and Note 4 and decided to try Marshmallow SD fix

https://xdaforums.com/xposed/modules/xposed-marshmallow-sd-fix-write-t3403263/page29

and then EXT SD fix

https://xdaforums.com/android/software/fix-extsd-fix-v1-0b-2016-01-18-t3296266

In each case going to Titanium backup it just doesn't work - I get the same old "Folder is not writable" message for anything on the SD card.

Since many people are having success - I'm assuming this is because of the Samsung version of Xposed framework ?

I don't know but nothing I do seems to work.

Any suggestions / advice - has anyone got this to work on their tab s or note 4?
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] Title101:
Does anyone know if you can use the Daydream controller with the Gear VR headset? I would prefer to use my Gear VR headset if possible.
[Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers] Akram.:
Nope. But if you have an old phone there is a daydream controller emulator. Just google it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] oneandroidnut:
Been trying to get the persistent app notification for apps running in background to go away and tried this tutorial

https://www.xda-developers.com/hide-app-running-background-notification-android-oreo/

and still wont work! Any ideas? Completely stock unrooted, play store, pixel xl on verizon service
[prjkt.io] bdogan1912:
Do there is anyone developing Android Oreo looking theme for Nougat? Does not matter paid/free. (The play store one has a lots of bugs i need somewhat theme that i could use as daily driver). If not this posts will stay as request. Thanks ?
[prjkt.io] me_harpreet:
awesome i works fine with me
[prjkt.io] MEYSAMKIA:
use this

play. google.com /store /apps / details? id = substratum.theme.ice
[prjkt.io] close2babu:
Very nice and cool
[prjkt.io] bdogan1912:
If someone still looking for delicious oreo themes can use modern blue theme as well on play store. Instead of theming im playing with unofficiql alpha android 8 roms ?
[Huawei Mate 9 Questions & Answers] CozmanAz:
Does anyone know of a way to stop the Mate 9 screen from coming on during a call.

When on a call, if I move the phone even a little, the screen comes on, dials someone else and puts the call I'm on on hold.

Very annoying.
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] NikosPot:
Hello, I am in search for an Android HU but every time this brings me a headache. I can't reach to a conclusion for which is best. I was looking for an Eonon GA2164 with 2GB ram which I think is MTCD but I do not know which MCU, and also that CPU seems very old.

Here in the forums I see that the best choice for now may be a MTCD with PX5 and 2GB ram. However I am looking for something "less Chinese" :p (joying, xtrons, dasaita, etc) and from EU warehouse so I can't buy from aliexpress or from the most sellers on ebay that ship from China. I need a HU with lots of unofficial support, full RCA outputs (front, rear, sub), analog steering wheel input and I prefer a physical volume knob instead of touch buttons.

Can you suggest something that I could check out?

Thank you!

PS: the xtrons TB706PL is PX5? If yes, the only downside I can find is that it only has touch buttons in the front, which is not good while driving...
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] alda.cerny:
I had a similar dilemma

I wanted PX5 HU due to Malaysk ROM >> not Joying

best would be HU from Dasaita, but they haven'ẗ EU warehouse

I finally chose TB706APL (PX5, 2GB RAM) from Xtrons due EU warehouse (but their official support is tragic)

I use the buttons on the steering wheel >> I don't miss the physical buttons on the HU
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] NikosPot:
What do you mean by tragic support? You mean for the official FW updates? Or for warranty/returns, contacting, tech issues?

From what I have seen while I was trying to get answers for some headunits, I could easily consider Eonon's support the best (for tech issues and answering questions. Also for defective devices they accept returns at the EU warehouse!). Joying's support for updates seems good and also good for contacting them but they told me that if I have any problem with the unit, I have to sent it to China. But Eonon haven't released any new hardware, and Joying has Intel Sofia.

What about Intel Sofia? I have seen some threads here but I think there is not so much support as PX5. Am I right?
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] alda.cerny:
I mean support on their forum >> when you have problem you must go to XDA forum

I don't know about an alternative ROM for Intel Sofia, but maybe I'm wrong

I think that on XDA is more support for PX5
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] NikosPot:
Thanks for the info, this unit seems very nice, even with the stock rom as I can see in videos.

May I ask you some questions about this device?

1) In the official store I see TB706PL. Not TB706APL. Are those the same?

2) Because I can't find installation manual in their website so I can't see what cables are on the back side, is there any cable for brightness dimming when turning on the lights? The Night Mode setting depends on the clock's hour, or when you turn on the lights it dims the display to the pre-set Night Mode level?

3) Have you tried to connect OBD2 reader? I have a vGate OBD so I do not want to buy xtrons... Does it support 3rd party OBD, or just the xtrons?

Edit:

I found some schematics on the net and I can see that the xtrons unit doesn't have any ILL (illumination) cable for dimming, SW (steering control), Reverse control.... How do you connect steering wheel resistance based cables? And reversed camera control cable for enabling it when you go in reverse?
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] stinger4321:
+1 for hotaudio.. seems to be the only active manufacturer on here
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] NikosPot:
hmm yeah Dasaita seems nice, and also has for my vehicle a 10.1 inch PX5 unit ready to install on my car like OEM appearance.

Tha official store is in aliexpress only? Damn I can't buy from China so expensive item... These months in my country, customs are going crazy! That is why I need EU warehouse.

But between Joying, xtrons, eonon there is no unit that seems to have everything I want! Every one of them has pros and cons. :(

And now I just realize that maybe I posted in the wrong forum, because now I am talking generally for headunits and not just for MTCD. haha but anyway firstly I wanted to find out which MTC /MCU is more supported and is more future proof (faster CPU, more RAM). So we are concluding to PX5 2GB? Are all of the PX5 chipsets in the MTCD category? Only the MCU are different between the manufacturers?
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] alda.cerny:
I don't use stock ROM from Xtrons, I use Malaysk ROM

point 1 - they renamed this unit from TB706APL to TB706PL, in my order was TB706APL, but I do not see any difference

point 2 - in my country is mandatory daytime running lights, so I did not look for something that, I'm sending a wiring diagram, maybe you'll find it there, I'm not sure how this is solved

point 3 - i have old OBD2 reader from China ($4-5) and it works, but Its name must be OBD (OBD2), I ordered in China the second piece because I could not find the original before, If it will have the correct name, I can send a link

point 4 (edit)

- ILL (illumination) cable for dimming - in wiring diagram number 13 - now i find, I forgot to connect it (I have to fix it, thank you :) )

- SW (steering control) - i have steering control with two cables, first is pointed to KEY1 (number 3) and second to ground (number 15)

- And reversed camera control cable for enabling it when you go in reverse? - number 5 (CAM-IN) for video cable, number 6 (CAM-LINE) for cable connected to return light - when reverse gear is selected, the rear camera automatically turns on
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] NikosPot:
Wow thank you for that! Yesterday I found a wiring that didn't show all that.

So now if you connect the ILL to your light switch I think that the HU will dim when you turn on the switch. DRL maybe doesn't matter, they are turned on without the light switch being on. (can't be 100% sure because I do not have in my car) Maybe the OEM connector on your car have this cable already. Mine for example was dimming the stock HU when I was turning on the lights switch, so there is an ILL cable on the connector.

For OBD, the name of mine V-LINK in bluetooth devices. If it is found in bluetooth search, it can't connect if it is not named "OBD"? This doesn't make sense. Even not on Malays rom?

I have problems with other cheap no brand Chinese OBDs that I have tried so changing to an other OBD is not an option for me :(
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] djtriso:
Hi without a doubt, the best radio is dasaita px5

good quality and great support
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] alda.cerny:
known has the same HU, but does not have an OBD adapter with the name OBD and can not connect his OBD adapter to HU

i readed this problem on XDA forum https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=72622247&postcount=3 Graser's Dasaita Tool may help on rooted HU
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] NikosPot:
problems and disadvantages everywhere... :eek: That is why everytime I am searching for a headunit, I finally quit and don't buy anything haha

Damn... Hot-Audio seems to have a unit that appears the same as xtrons, and it is cheaper and as you say they have better support. But I can't buy it :( Maybe the whole device is the same and only the MCU and the Android Launcher is different. Will the xtrons have a lot of differences from Hot Audio? I can install the same roms (for PX5), the only different will be the MCU updates. Am I right?
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] alda.cerny:
according to what I read here, the differences should also be in the quality of processing, Hot Audio (Dasaita) should be top, Xtrons should be a little worse

but here are brands that are waste too

yes, you can install the same ROMs (for PX5) on PX5 HU from brands Xtrons, Dasaita, ... you can install ROM from Dasaita (update.img) on Xtrons's unit

MCU update should be updated only from your brand, but there are forum members who try to combine it, I don't have the courage to do it
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] stinger4321:
when i bought mine the paperwork showed the purchase price as 50$... way under actual purchase price.. so customs shouldnt be to horrible.. of course talk to them about this.. since i bought mine through ebay
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] NikosPot:
I talked to them on AliExpress. They offered me to put a value of 50usd on the invoice. However in my country especially since the beginning of 2017 they try to take as much more money they can so they do not care about the paperwork. They easily can ignore the invoice, search on the internet for the product and put whatever value they want... They do not even ask the customers for the paypal invoice. Also it can stay at the airport for 1 or 2 months... So I can't buy from Dasaita. The next option is xtrons but I am reading in other thread for problems on some MCUs and I am afraid that maybe my xtrons have a crappy MCU. Do they always send the same hardware for the same HU model?
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] alda.cerny:
I suppose yes, you can write and ask them for sure
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] NikosPot:
Well, I asked them but they are not telling me. First they told me "The MCU is STM32F091VCT" :confused:

And after I asked again to give me the manufacturer (GS, etc) they told me Sorry we can't give you that.

Your TB706APL is GS? I also asked them what are the differences between TB706PL and TB706APL and told me that it is actually the same as APL, just a tiny bit shorter, less than 1cm. I guess they just changed the casing. But how the hell am I going to be sure it will be GS if they can't provide me with this info? Crappy company I assume.
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] alda.cerny:
yes, my TB706APL is GS

my HU is also shortened compared to previous versions, I think they say nonsense

In the box I have no longer space for another shortening as you can see in the pictures http://www.aldacerny.cz/2017/08/nahrada-tabletu-nexus-7-2012-v-aute-za-2din-radio-xtrons-tb706apl/
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] NikosPot:
I see... So either they changed something on the PCB and made it smaller, or they do not know what they are talking about. Good job xtrons :laugh:
[MTCD  Android Head Units Q&A] Oberbergler:
I have no problems with my xtrons. First I had an Erisin with Dualcore processor, then a Pumpkin with a Quadcore processor and now the xtrons with the Octacore. On every previous unit i had problems (most problems with the Pumpkin), but the xtrons runs very fast and without any little problem. The support is also great. I`ve bought the unit via ebay and after a month I`ve asked for the bill. 10 hours later I had a bill.

Only the sound quality (especially over bluetooth) and the DAB signal reception was minimal better on the Pumpkin HU. But overall I would defenitely recommend a xtrons :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] calvinzhang:
Eveybody sees, you Masters make a lot of great ROMs for Kaiser, i really wants to use them,but i can't ....

Because i really need my Kaiser to display chinese, such as in Contact or some dictionary programmes.

So if anyone can teach me how too add a chinese support to the roms, it will be very thanksful!

xiexie!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zhang0723:
well,,there are some cabs for Chinese display, you can setup it, if you need it, pls email me.

cheers