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[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
Alright, thank you. Is this a normal honor procedure that you have to have the device active some days to get the update or are the just rolling it out in waves?
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] hassanjavaid8181:
B180 is not oreo.. It an update with november security patch.. With volte and vowifi added... You dont have to change or do any thing you will recieve..

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Its just rolling out in waves.. I just got update notification of b130 update withing1 or 2 minutes after turning on device for the first time...
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
Oh, thanks for clarifiying. Hope they will still update me to B180 even though Oreo will soon be ready to deploy.

My phone was already on B130 out of the box.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] hassanjavaid8181:
Yeah.. I think oreo beta is finished and will start to rolling out.. Waiting for oreo too...
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
Quick status update:

I still couldn't find an update through the settings checking for a system update, same in the Hicare app but kicking on "download latest full package" in the Hicare system update section via the menu on screen buttons, got me 150 and 180 after that. Now the "download latest full package" option is gone on Hicare in 180 btw.

There is still a bit of a delay before scrolling starts but it feels better now. Also the ghosting seems almost gone and scrolling is much smoother overall.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] hassanjavaid8181:
Glad that finally you installed b180..

Battery is also really great on b180..
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
Alright, after a day the placebo effect is gone and I had to realise that the scrolling delay did not get better. Scrolling overall is smooth but the delay until the scrolling starts is still present.

Just tested to double check with my girlfriend's honor 7, developer options, show pointer and movement (don't know the correct English term) and while doing minimal up and down motions with a constant left to right motion it showed clear peaks on the line on my GFs honor 7 while on my honor 9 it looked like a minimal wobbly line.

Will return the phone on Tuesday.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
Please find attached the screenshot comparison between my GFs H7 (teal, on-screen navigation buttons) and my H9 (blue).
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] PalakMi:
The scrolling delay is a software issue, Honor needs to fix this and push the OTA
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
I really do not believe in a software issue, as I had this through 3 firmware versions now and the touchscreen does not recognise the small movements as you can see in the screenshots.

Also some guys report they do not have any issues at all with scrolling delays, so most likely a batch of their touch screens is faulty.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] devies:
I believe B100 didn't have this delay. Touch screen is not faulty as it registers your touch perfectly. Only scrolling is delayed. Something else is wrong and I really hope it will be fixed soon, or bye bye Honor never again.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] sinraal:
I have a feeling that Huawei considers this delay more as a feature than a bug. It would explain the lack of fix in newer versions. And it is definitely software based. Seems like response averaging. I have it as well since b130. I do agree though that it is uncommon in comparison to other phones.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] hassanjavaid8181:
That is a software bug..

It should be and hope it will be fixed in final oreo..
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
Can anyone on the Oreo beta please give feedback on this topic?
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
A German Orea beta tester just confirmed that the delay is still there in Oreo - so not a software but a hardware defect!

You can find the comments under his youtube video here: https://youtu.be/9BMlLqNGx3I

Edit: I have also uploaded a video of the scrolling delay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaGKuSDYE6g

Please note that the screen recorder makes it look a bit better than it is in real life. The blue line starts moving already before the screen starts to scroll.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] devies:
Only because it's still there doesn't mean it's a hardware issue. I still hope it will be fixed in final Oreo.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
Would be cool if some users could confirm if they have the same delay in their H9s.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] hassanjavaid8181:
if its there doesnt mean it will not be solve..and its a hardware bug..i agree with davies..

can anyone confirm on RR or project treble Oreo if they still having the same issue?
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
You think it is a hardware bug or software/OS related?
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] SrSplassh:
I actually have the same problem , and it is pretty awfull the feeling whe you are scrolling , im thinking if intall a custom rom would solve the problem
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
It is just a joke that you need a custom room for a device that was released half a year ago. Love the option to extend the life by installing custom rooms but it is essential to have the device running without major bugs out of the box.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] SrSplassh:
I totally agree i received it yesterday , and it is probably something i can get used to , but i would prefer not no have it (obviously). I think it is a software problem because , for what i read, with b100 this didnt happened , so i hope they fix it. Also when on first boot i updated the phone to the latest version, any idea if i can get back to the previous version, i triend restoring the device but the version doesn't seem to restore.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
Have a look in the custom room section. I think there is a way to downgrade by installing an extracted older firmware (if it exists) via twrp.

Would really not do this on a new phone though. Wait for Oreo which comes in Q1 2018 according to Hicare chat support or return the phone.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] rkalas:
I see that when I first touch the screen, the position is immediately registered. When I swipe up, first the displayed position does not change at fall. Then the displayed position starts to change but without the scrolling actually happens.

I assume there are two filters engaged:

1) The HW or Android itself filters the first movement probably to avoid scrolling up/down at the moment you touch the screen. I assume, this is just normal on all android device.

2) Some additional "filter" (probably implemented by Huawei) prevents the scrolling, when the "detected" position start to change - causing the additional lag.

Interestingly, if you start moving up, the scrolling works normally after some distance. If you now just change the movement direction to down, the scrolling stops, until you travel the required distance down the screen. From now on, the scrolling works without any lags in both directions.

The additional "filter" seems to be intentional, probably to avoid some flaws in touch screen HW. Question is, if we get someday a FW without this filter....
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
I just got an update to Firmware B182 which is just a security backup update with the December patch. The scrolling delay is still present.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] hassanjavaid8181:
Just a security patch update??
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
Screenshots
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Ernesto5070:
For scrooling lag and bugs on software and lower worked at phone set last stable version on Firmware Finder and:

FIX IS THIS ->

1) First we need to power off / turn off device

2) When the device is powered off, press and hold for 10-15 sec Power button + Volume up key ( upper part of the volume button )

3) The device vibrates, and once the Honor logo appears release keys

4) Device will go intro a Recovery Menu with 3 possible option ( Reboots System Now , Wipe data / Factory reset and Wipe cache partition )

5) Select 3rd option Wipe cache partition ( this will only take 5 sec to do and the same recovery menu will appear )

6) Then select factory reset.

7) After this is done , select the 1st option Reboot system now.

Let us know if this issue was solved.

Best regards,

Paul

Honor Customer Support.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] DLM97:
Hello, does it apply for Huawei Mate Versions? Bought a mate 10 lite yesterday and I instantly noticed this problem while playing a game( while aiming).
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] rkalas:
Has this helped somebody with the scrolling lag?
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Letloose:
Same problem

Has the factory reset helped anyone on the problem?

TIA
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] twiddles:
I'm just backing up my data and going to try it this eve. Will report back.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Letloose:
Twiddles, I've just done it, wiped the cache, it formatted the same after, and then i factory reset the device > it is still the same > I have a B180 build.

I tried a Huawei P10 lite with 7.0 and EMUI 5.1 in a shop today, only thing i had available closed to a Honor 9 around my area, and it was working wonders, so smooth.

I'm not waiting for an update as honestly this sounds more like a hardware issue. People with the earlybird Oreo still have the same bug.

What a waste for such a value for money class device, sending it back tomorrow.

Just bad luck i guess, as so many positive comments all over the web regarding the H9, but i will not chance it again.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] twiddles:
Same here after reset.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] DLM97:
So no other choice but to return it from where I bought it and use the warranty? If it's really a hardware issue. Not sure if same phone in the market have the same problem.

I'm using a Mate 10 lite by the way, which is like the P10 lite.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] rkalas:
I still think it is a SW issue. At least in my case. Or there are multiple issues with the scrolling lag.

Although the scrolling lags in many apps, the scrolling is super smooth in some apps, like I have experienced this morning in Garmin Connect.

Anyway, the delay is annoying and the scrolling seems to be a bit too slow - if I move my finger fast, the scrolling accelerates too slowly to follow my finger.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] devies:
Scrolling delay is about the delay when you start swiping with finger but the scrolling start only after some 5 mm. Its not about apps with jerky scrolling.

Anyway it's still probably sw issue as first firmware B100 most likely didn't have this delay.

Would be interesting to know if delay is still there after installing custom fw.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] dannejanne:
It's hardware issue people. I had two different Honor 9 and they behaved differently from each other on same firmware. Honor uses different digitizers and screens within the same model. It's a lottery if you will get a good phone or not and they will not accept it as a hardware fault (own experience). If it bothers you just return the phone.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Suibian:
Got the phone several hours ago,it had exact the issue on B180,so I took the official update to B201(strange version but is what is provided).Still unresolved.I have the Chinese model AL00.I don't want to return it due to the difficulty but I am already regretting not buying an Mi 6 instead of this faulty phone.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] devies:
Sure, might be using different hw in phones but doesn't mean it's not a sw issue. Just the the fw needs to be adjusted to the different screen hw. Hw is all ok as you can see the 5 mm line before screen is scrolling, so touch is registering ok. Needs some sort of patch.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] DLM97:
I contacted support by email and they replied to wait for a future update. I also think it's just a software issue.

Hope for an update ASAP as this is annoying on my daily basis :rolleyes:
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] zaryab:
Maybe this is the reason Honor is giving 30-50 euro cashback on honor phones :p Smart move by Honor :D
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Stoeff.at:
I have gotten kind of used to it after a few weeks of using the phone. It still bothers me but it is not as painful as coming directly from a perfectly smooth phone.

Anyway, in Austria we have standard 2 year warranty and I will return the phone if the Oreo update does not come in the next week and/or fixes this issue.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] DLM97:
I saw post about Huawei Mate 10 having same issues but got fixed after an update. Not all Mate 10 are having the patches yet though.

I guess we all just have to wait till the day comes :)
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] tiguy99:
Have an Honor 8 but don't have this problem. Do any of you have an Honor 8 which has latency lag?
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] 4r44444:
I've got this delay only in the Facebook app... all other things scroll smooth.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] 00dragan00:
Anyone updated to Oreo? Is it fixed?
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] nmd87:
I had the same problem. Bought the phone last week. Only noticed the issue after the B130 update had downloaded and installed. Spoke to Huawei, who told me to wipe the cache via holding the power button and volume up key. Unfortunately, this didn't work. I don't think it's acceptable that a brand new phone that I paid £280 for should have this problem, so I returned the phone for a refund.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Travello:
Guys,i just got a brand new honor 9 just a week ago, and sadly i'm facing that touch issue too. By the way i found out that at the borders of the touchscreen it works fine , scrolls are very fast and reactive. (with borders i mean the right and left limits where the touch detects the finger). Try with your devices and let me know. This can be the key to find out if it's an hardware or software fault.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] devies:
Hmm that's.. weird.. At the screen borders I have the same impression that the touch latency is all ok. In the middle of screen is the worse, then getting better the further to the border you try to scroll. I wonder why this was behaviour was introduced in B130.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] PaulR11:
For me scrolling feels the same as on my Honor 6x.

I am on B183.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Cienight:
I can confidently confirm that the b360 (oreo) update fixed the scrolling delay/unresponsiveness of the screen!
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] PaulR11:
Are you experiencing any lag in the YouTube app?

For example when scrolling while a video is playing.

I have this issue on b183 and on my Honor 6x it is perfectly smooth. Most other apps are fine.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Travello:
I updated to oreo too, but it seems like for me the problem is still there. i think i'm gonna return the phone and i'll buy another h9 to see if something change.. anyone else fixed the problem with oreo?

By the way, after updating the phone feels a bit laggy on scrolling too.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] 00dragan00:
It feels the same for me. Still not fluid as it suppose to be.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] twiddles:
On page 6 on this thread it's recommended to do a factory reset from recovery which I did and I thought there wasn't an immediate change. However, after using it for a while I must admit I don't notice the lag any more. I've since upgraded to Oreo and no lag present for me. I was thinking of selling the device but I'm quite happy with it now.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] VinSilvano:
Same here. I made a video, search "BUG Honor 9 (scrolling lag)" on Youtube ( i can't post links), You can see it's still present in Oreo. But i think it's a software "feature" and not a bug. What can we do?
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] 00dragan00:
Only Huawei can do something. It's better after update to Oreo, but lag is still present.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] :
I read the entire thread really happy that I'm not alone with this issue. I bought the phone a couple of days ago and updated instant. I live in Germany and have 8.0.0. I test this issue the best while scrolling in my Uninstalled apps in the play store. I can comfirm this issue and this thread describes the problem at best. I'm sorry that the honor guys will never see this and might not get this customer feedback..

I also feel very sorry for all the reset tries of a lot of you. I already put in to much time into this and dicided to reset today without any success. No one should ever reset his phone again just because some first level support or reseller says to do!

I think no one here can say for sure if it's a hw oder a sw problem. Those people who cannot return the phone anymore clearly hope for a software fix, people that can still return because Amazon or 2weeks return might think, is it good to have a hw problem fixed by software? I'd rather have a proper hardware.

But it's all just wishing, hoping and estimating. We don't know what it is, if it will get fixed and how...

For me I'm not a hoper. I can still return it and get my Money back so I think I will do so. But it's a petty cuz despite this issue I was happy.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] sinraal:
I still think that is more a feature than a bug. Making the scrolling more rugged without being too sensitive. Thats why it will not be fixed. I wonder if it is present in AOSP or just any other rom not based on Emui.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] :
[MENTION=3028757]sinraal[/MENTION]: Yes like smooth scrolling like since iPhone 3 is not good enough anmore. Let's make it more rugged. That's what the devs at Huawei must have thought. I call bull ****
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] VinSilvano:
I tested a OnePlus 5

I made a test on OnePlus 5 and it's similar... I think it's a REALLY bad "feature".

At this point, gaming is impossible. Give a try to "Rules of Survival", game is good, but first visual movement suck because of this delay.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] :
Is there a way to downgrade to android 7 per PC?
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] VinSilvano:
Seems like on AOSP projects the problem is unnoticeable. (Source: another XDA user, not me)
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] nednapalm:
Had a quick look in a Honor shop today (three in UK) - both devices they had on display (Blue and Silver - both on B183) had the same issue as my Honor 9 - scroll delay. They also had an Honor 6X and Mate10 Pro - both of which did not have this issue... Come on Honor sort this out in the next Oreo update...please!
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] VinSilvano:
I don't understand how to report a bug to Huawei... Their site is confusing.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] nbferr:
I'd visited this thread once a few months ago and didn't think my phone was affected.

I'm on the Oreo version (OTA) and just watched your video and I can confirm, my blue Honor 9 running on C432 also has this first-touch delay. What's worse is I hadn't noticed it before, and now I can't avoid noticing it -_-
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] :
Welcome to the club
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] :
I wrote the German support and asked if they know about this issue and if a solution is planned. I got the basic reply to reset the phone and send it in to their service if it still persist. Not sure if they are even aware of this bug. For me I will send it back to Amazon and keep an eye on this thread. So please come back and leave a comment here if they release new updates and if the got this solved. Thanks very much, Michael
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] NewRaven:
Actually, I think you're right. And because it's actually considered a feature of EMUI, you won't see it with a AOSP based rom.

I think, what they really thought was: do we want our rendering snappier, but with rougher scrolling or do we want to have smooth rendering at all times with the side effect of a small scrolling delay. And as only a very few people only recognize that delay at all, they probably decided for the latter. The changes with this in the Oreo update look like they are still trying to find the sweet spot.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Travello:
I just think he said that in aosp the problem is unnoticeable because he has a good working screen. And for me it's not a feature as if your try your scrolls on the borders (top especially out of the LCD part , left and right curved borders, and even on the bottom near the soft touch and central button) they will not be rugged or whatever... Even at the first touch it will be very reactive. I just think it's an hardware problem, but why in a phone that costs more 300€ would they use bad quality touchscreens.. while I tried some other Honor and Huawei phones of my class mates and they don't have this bad """""feature"""""" (I tried with: Honor 8 pro, Honor 9 lite, Huawei p10, Huawei p9 lite and even my old Huawei g700 does not have this problem). I hope that this s*** is covered by warranty otherwise good I will not buy another Honor or Huawei phones again... for the moment I reccomend everyone in this thread to write to Honor on Facebook or by email so they will notice that a lot of phones are affected by this problem and maybe they'll do something!! :svetius:
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] VinSilvano:
Update: I sent my Honor to Huawei Costumer Service, they tried to change the display but 30 days passed, so I decided to take a refund.

In other words: I never buy an Honor again, I'm sorry.
[Honor 9  Questions & Answers] Olime:
Had the same with my honor 10 and I suspect it is the knuckle gestures. Since I switched those off everything runs smoothly!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Eklondh:
This seems to be happening on Android 4.4 and select programs like Skype and Telegram on our beautiful device

I dont know a lot about Android so I thought I should ask you guys 'bout this

Anyone managed to solve this?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icgmillsz:
Im new to rooting and I have a rooted lg k20 with twrp I want to know how can I flash a custom recovery or update my phone to android 8 Oreo pls help me
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gonfebo:
Twrp is a custom recovery

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icgmillsz:
Do you know how I can install a custom rom
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gonfebo:
Search a .zip rom fir you terminal and flash it with twrp

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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
I have an issue with the spacebar. Everytime u press the space bar it doesn't actually register the space on screen until you LET GO of the space bar button. That is, press down and release. Every other button just waits for the press down, but for some reason the space bar is on a slight delay.

This causes many of my words to run together: liket his.

Any way to fix this issue?????? :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cushcalc:
Space bar action

My Tilt doesn't seem to do this - the spacebar

is

stiffer than the other keys, but when I press it firmly I see the cursor immediately jump forward.

So I'm guessing you have a hardware problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
hmm...it really doesn't feel like a hardware issue. The spacebar pushes down and up fine, it just seems like its progrmamed to "SPACE" upon release of the key, rather than press-down.

if you hold it down it will start repeating spaces, though...just takes a little longer than other keys....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lesevich:
Since you're running Dutty's Rom, I'd suggest it has to do with the XT9 settings of the ROM. Download a cab from Dutty's server called "Disable_XT9.cab" and run it. Should fix your problem (did so for me).

Good luck.

H.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
I installed the cab, but I don't think it fixed the problem!?!

Is there any special instructions !?! :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ~~Tito~~:
What about shaps rom? 4.31?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redsrule2500:
Oops, guess you have to restart for it to take effect!

THANKS!!