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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] RockinAmigo14:
I've been experiencing some major drain since updating to Oreo. My battery graph is just a straight diagonal line no matter when I'm doing. I don't have any facebook apps installed and i've done two factory resets, once setting the phone up as an entirely new device. any ideas what else i can do here?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] androidnandroid:
Around 2 percent drain without use Honor asus and samsung had 2 percent in 4 hours moto drain is much coz of Moto display
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] rahulg09:
reduce background data of social media apps and least used apps. my night drain is about 3%.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] olive23:
Battery life is terrible on this phone.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] RockinAmigo14:
i've disabled background data and background activity for every app possible. still losing 10% or more overnight.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] androidnandroid:
Moto display is culprit even with slight movement of your bed it wakes up and around 20 times in tight and your phone doens't go to doze mode
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] olive23:
I have Moto display disabled.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] RockinAmigo14:
same here. still struggles in standby
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] olive23:
Shoot my Moto g5 plus gets better battery life and it's a year old. This one is only a couple months and the battery is awful.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Tommylee567:
That's why I keep it display down on bed while I sleep. Doesn't bother waking up the screen (Moto display)

Yes, after using the Xiaomi Redmi 5A i am impressed by it running 3 days and 4 days on idle but this X4 barely manages 24 hours :(

Wondering what to do next with this phone, sell or keep it.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] olive23:
I honestly think it's bad software optimization.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] androidnandroid:
Moto display doesn't allow to doze

Moto display doesn't allow to doze
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Siddhesh K:
In the initial days after oreo update, battery used drain much overnight (8-10%). But don't know how, nowadays drain is only 3-4%.

I have disabled moto display and moto actions except quick screenshot.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] mzeshanhakeem:
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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] RockinAmigo14:
i've had moto display off since day 1. moto display is not the issue.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Deleted member 5190831:
When I updated to Oreo mobile data always active was enabled by default in developer settings disabling it might help
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] RockinAmigo14:
hasn't made a difference for me, but i appreciate the post!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] pietpietersen:
In nougat i could see when my phone would sleep,

and when it would not.

I have been on oreo since it came out, and haven't really had any battery drain.

But i can't find anywhere a graphic which shows during which time of the day the phone goes into doze mode,

and when it does not.

Any tips?

But I notice it doesn't show anymore

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In nougat i could see when my phone would sleep,

and when it would not.

I have been on oreo since it came out, and haven't really had any battery drain.

But i now can't find anywhere a graphic anymore which shows during which time of the day the phone goes into doze mode,

and when it does not.

Any tips?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] winpooh:
In my experience this phone does great. I'm on Oreo and I disable Moto display and get very little drain on standby.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] @niket:
why new camera app is running in background?

any justification for the same?

i just turned it off as i notice just before writing this reply
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] azriel22:
10% overnight -_- I haven't even installed much apps though..
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] @niket:
it is approx 1%/hr in standby mode

cuts it down to half%/hr in airplane mode
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] rouyal:
Disabling moto display helps a lot with standby in my experience
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Lakatus87:
battery on XT1900-5

On mine, before upgrading to Oreo the battery usage was very good, especially overnight (in standby) it was barely dropping by 4-5%. Upon upgrading to Oreo battery consumption on standby rose to 8-10% (sometimes more). However, yesterday I had a small update with April security patches, and afterwards battery dropped by 4% between 20:00 and 6:00AM, which is a huge improvement. Maybe there was a patch included in that last update, I don't know. Need to observe this more.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] rozinka666:
agree, same experience yesterday, i was well surprised
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] brother_jon:
Try resetting your permissions and then only granting permissions to the apps you use the most. I found this to make a significant difference.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] d.casper.b:
43% battery remaining with 13 minutes SOT ?

REALLY? What is going on? Google Play Services is eating a lot, and I've even disabled its background activity?

Oreo, 1 April 2018 security, XT1900-5
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the Moto X4's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
Not sure how to define heavy use but I run multiple apps and Bluetooth a lot and it holds up well. Again I'm easily getting 16+ hours with 6+ SOT.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the Moto X4's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
Last two days with light use. Maybe more. Had 16% left after two days once time.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] lopezpm:
I plugged it into the car for Android Auto, for about two 10 minute drives and I'm on 1 day and 18hrs and I have about 13 hrs remaining. Best battery life I've ever experienced from any phone.

Edit:

Screen on time is at 4 hrs and 23 minutes.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Is the Moto X4 as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the Moto X4 is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the Moto X4 is a beautiful phone.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
I've owned about 20 smartphones since 2012. The sterling blue is by far the best looking phone I've ever owned. I'm so vain about it that I use a clear case for the first time:)
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] zkhmcknol:
Could use a rough edge as it's very slippery and you could drop it easily
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] bluestang:
You mind sharing what clear case you have and if you're happy with it? Thanks!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] ijuanp03:
I bought the black and it's by far the blackest Motorola device ever. Period. This could have passed as a highend device if not for the SD630 chipset because it looks and feels like a really really premium phone.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Saaber:
I just got a Sterling Blue X4, and it definitely is pretty. :) It feels like an expensive phone with the metal sides and glass all around, and looks expensive, too. Cosmetically, it reminds me a lot of my wife's Galaxy S7, though, which isn't a bad thing.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] fix-this!:
very good design but super slippery without a case. :eek:
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Moto X4 feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
Feels like a $1000 phone. Sturdy, tight, and sleek. Moto makes great use of rounded backs and corners to make their phones feel great in the hand.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] lopezpm:
Agree with everything but also want to add that I love how the phone feels cold when you pick it up
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
The shiney smooth back is actually grippier than I would have expected. Overall it feels very nice.

I have a few small (SMALL) quirks about the device that are a little bothering if I think about them, but it's mostly just me nit-picking. The model number is printed on a light color font on the bottom, between the headphone jack and USB-C. It's kinda weird to be seeing a font where there almost shouldn't be. The SIM card is on top of the phone, which is a little weird to me. The breaks in the phone where the antennas are (2 on bottom, 1 on top) are a little disjointing if you notice them. The volume-up-down are a little harder to click than I would like (but that's probably a good thing to avoid accidental clicks). And lastly, 2 of the 3 microphones (the ones on the front and back) seem to be more noticeable than I expected. It was actually one of the first things I noticed when I first took it out of the box, and turned it around to look at the smooth back.

As I said, these are nit-picks. Overall, it's a very well built phone, sturdy, and very pleasant to use. Would highly recommend.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] mrdoug:
Let me be the first (likely of many) to warn that Lenovo-rola is notorious for crap quality. The phone's have some awesome features, but quality bites, their support is so bad they got sued (Gerard Gibbs) over it. My g5 plus is the last Moto device I will ever buy.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] winpooh:
Apparently you got a bad one or else the g5 plus is a way worse build than the x4. Best quality phone I've ever owned, feels premium, very solid quality!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Twski:
Do you really prefer when it's printed on the back?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] christopher68369:
Love the phone. The contour glass is beautiful, and not as slippery as I thought when reading reviews. Have not had a problem since I bought it in October. The only thing is the amazon Alexa and the camera. I felt like the original moto x did a way better job with voice commands than Alexa. The camera is fine, just wish that they made the bump smaller. But the weight and feel of the phone itself is awesome compared to others with a higher price. Give it a 8 out of a 10
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Saaber:
I had a G5 Plus, and for a plastic phone, the build quality was extremely good. It was up there with any plastic Samsung phone I've ever handled. The X4 is much higher quality, though. It really does feel like a phone that costs twice as much. I think it's a little slippery, though, so I keep it in a case.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Moto X4 feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
Moto has totally figured out ergonomics. Rounded corners and back. Feels nice and steady in the hand.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] ackattacker:
Agreed, although I wish it had the fingerprint sensor on the back like my Nexus 5X. Also the weight is both reassuring and a little annoying. Weight for weights sake.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
The rounded corners are very comfortable, and the smooth shiney back is actually more grippy than I would have thought. Fingerprint reader on the front is a little weird, as I have to shift the phone's center weight in my hand to reach the sensor with my thumb, but it's not that bad. It definitely feels very "dense" meaning it's weight is very well spaced out thru the device and it feels good to hold. The only sharp edges are on the camera bump, which I'm a little nervous about damaging as it's so prominent (but I also worry about that with every phone, so that's not exactly unique to this model).
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Deleted member 5190831:
I love how it feels in the hand made me sad to put a case on it. The way this phone feels reminds of the iPhone 7 especially around the edges.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] ijuanp03:
I just bought this phone last night and all I can say is that the build quality and in-hand feel is amazing.

But to compare it with HTC 10 with similar body, it feels bulky since the back isn't tapered.

Only if Lenovo decided to put a flagship processor coz everything about this phone is already highend.

Mine is the 4gb/64gb dual sim variant.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] GuestD0074:
i bought this phone just because of the ergonomics! i'm so in love right now! if there's anything were to happen to my moto x4 right now... i don't know what i would do to that person who did it haha! that's how much i'm obsessed right now! :)
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] forbidden8:
Amazing phone. Dope design and look. However it is somewhat slippery and sliding. I'll have to put on a case, even if I do not want it. Eye catching device.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] rouyal:
It’s a little too wide, especially after putting a case on. The width also exaggerates the weight of it. The shape is nice and comfortable. Just not ‘4.7” iPhone’ comfortable. I think 4.7-5” would’ve been good, and brought the weight down too. .
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Twski:
It has good ergonomics and the back isn't slippery (although the sides are). I also like the placement of the fingerprint sensor, as I unlock a lot the phone while it's laying on a desk (plus, One button nav ftw).

But the weight is too much on the heavy side for me. With case it becomes exhausting to hold for long periods. But it makes the phone feel more premium (which is not something I really care for).

It's also very very fragile. I wouldn't use it without a case.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Organics:
Slippery slope. I always fear that it slips outta my hands, and it has glass body so....
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] jhedfors:
Been very happy with this case, as it doesn't add any bulk, and it won't slip out of your hand.

Anccer Moto X4 Case [Colorful Series] [Ultra-Thin] [Anti-Drop] Premium Material Slim Full Protection Cover for Motorala X4 2017 (Smooth Blue) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077G1PD6T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_F-gbCbR5WRAEW
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Organics:
Thanks man! I'll try it out. Just one question, does it effectively protect the camera lens?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] jhedfors:
Yes, there is a raised edge/ring around the lens.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] Organics:
Great. Thanks man, have a nice one
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] sleze:
It is average. I have small, danty hands and prefer my work IPhone S as the perfect size - my thumb can reach everything. On the X4, there are times where I can't reach and either strain my hand or have to change holding positions.

One of the reasons I chose the X4 was because it was about the same size as my old, beloved S5. I do not intend to ever buy a larger one.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] samshady7:
For what it's worth, the build quality is really impressive. I have a black x4 and everything about it screams a million bucks. Those with any knowledge of what a premium phone should look and feel like will appreciate this phone. Sturdy, beautiful and perfect for someone who's not into the whole big phones hype. Finger print sensor on the back would have been a bit better since the bottom bezel could then have potentially housed another speaker but one shouldn't be too greedy. Overall, this build quality beats anything in the updated price range that it's selling for now. Maybe something like the Nokia phones could come close but nothing else.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the Moto X4. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
Virtually stock Android. Simple to use. Smooth operation. Android One version will get monthly updates I hear.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
Android One X4 is basically stock android. It has the "slide up" app drawer similar to the pixel, but I'm not sure if it really is the pixel launcher or not.

There are a few moto softwares thrown into the mix, but they're not obtrusive, and most are helpful (Moto Display for automated blue light filter, and and FM radio app).

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I should also add that activating on Project Fi was very simple & easy. It came with a new SIM, and transferred my number to the new SIM seamlessly, and almost instantly.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] apatrahil:
Does this mean that Moto X4 has real working FM chip ? GSMArena says NO ! This is really important to me

Thanks
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
I never actually tested it, but I just did, and I can confirm that it does work. It requires headphones (it doesn't have a built in antenna), but it did pick up my local rock station and a few others. I work in a high school (large brick building), so the signal is a little weak, but so is *every* signal, so it should be fine out-and-about.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] zkhmcknol:
Could do without the Google stuff but hey....... luckily there's disable
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] honeker64@gmail.com:
mirror link works?
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Moto X4's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
I don't know what the bits are, but I wear sunglasses in the sunshine and have no trouble at all reading it.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] ackattacker:
I just did a side by side comparison with my Nexus 5X, and the Moto X4 is brighter and more visible in sunlight. The colors are punchier, as well (the Nexus 5X was known for having relatively accurate colors, at the expense of perceived vibrancy). The Nexus 5X was also considered pretty good in direct sun. The Moto X4 is better.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Moto X4's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
Maybe not quite AMOLED but I can't easily tell where a black screen ends and the bezels begin. It's sharp.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] fix-this!:
best lcd ive seen on a 1080p display. i thought for sure this was amoled. :good:
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] ijuanp03:
It's too dark actually. The colors are NOT accurate.

Compare it side by side with an iPhone, Samsung, HTC, etc..

Open and photo and you will notice how DARK the image is when viewed in the X4.

This isn't good when you do a lot of photo editing as it you might adjust your picture and make it too bright.

But I think this the display calibration is intentional. Lenovo wants to fool the consumers into thinking that it has a good contrast.

It does but with the expense of inaccurate colors.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] jp2265:
x5

They should use AMOLED on the X5, fo sho.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Moto X4's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
Vibrant mode has some saturation. The blues look particularly rich. It looks great.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
The display is a bit more vibrant and saturated than my old 5x. It looks very good, but I agree with the poster above me; the blues are very strong. Not bad, but strong.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
The Moto X4 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
Can't see any pixels.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
Coming from a 5x with the same size (5.2") and resolution (1920x1080), it's very comparable in clarity. Colors are maybe a bit more vibrant, if less accurate, but it's very good display.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the Moto X4's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
When I read in bed in the early morning darkness, it doesn't hurt my eyes. Works especially well with the Moto display feature that reduces blue light whenever activated.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
Blue light filter is a bit more mild than what I've used on other devices, but I think I prefer it that way, cuz I don't want my image to look perma-orange.

Minimum brightness is very good. Easy to read at night without hurting my eyes.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] gleonard3:
Leftmost ~25% of Brightness Slider Ineffective

This thing doesn't go nearly dim enough. As stated in the title, the slider seems ineffective at all when sliding down to below 25 or so %. Lame.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] crazyates:
Turn off auto-brightness. The auto scaling will only go so low if it thinks the room is lighter than you want. When set to manual, the brightness goes very low.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] gleonard3:
Thanks. That helps a little, but still doesn't go as low as I'd hoped. Pretty sure with my old Nexus 6, I could get it so low I couldn't even read it. With this, the lowest is still not low enough.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] pdx1138:
to get the screen dim the way I like, I use the "screen filter" app.

As for the night mode, the screen on the x4 has a bit of a blue cast to my

eyes so I just run the night mode all the time. The whites are a bit orangeish

but I'd rather see that than a blue cast.

Now if only I could turn of the notification icon for that and

everytime i unlock the x4.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] forbidden8:
Great display.
[Moto X4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you call granny, does she keep saying "Huh?! Wut?!" or does the conversation flow pretty well? Rate this thread to express how you feel about the Moto X4's call quality. A higher rating indicates that calls are clear and crisp, and that regardless of background noise, you can hear the other party clearly (and with ample volume) and they can hear you.

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[Moto X4 Real Life Review] That's Nobody:
Works great. No issues. Plenty loud.