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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
The SIM unlocked US998 non-carrier model isn't available until November 27th 2017 at the earliest, at least according to B&H Photo. You can SIM unlock the T-Mobile version H932SV and WiFi Calling will still work on T-Mobile. However, it will more than likely never get root even though the bootloader can be unlocked. Most fastboot and ADB commands have been removed from the carrier model devices.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] rampantandroid:
Quick search of the thread didn't confirm this - to confirm, the US998 unlocked V30 that's up for pre-order will work with Verizon? It looks to support all of the correct bands/frequencies, but B&H includes a disclaimer about how it might not activate.

Additionally, am I correct in thinking that the unlocked phone will not support VoLTE, wifi calling and visual voice mail for Verizon?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
Highly doubtful on WiFi Calling on T-Mobile. VoLTE should work depending on the carrier. There have been a lot of inconsistencies when it comes to model numbers and their supported bands. We won't truly know what it supports until someone has it in-hand and checks through the Field Test menu what bands it actually has.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
I have the US Cellular version of the v30 which has the same model number as the unlocked version (US998). I'm using it on TMO and I have WiFi calling.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] GUGUITOMTG4:
Good to know
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Interesting. So, maybe the guy who had the LG G6 US997 was right. He sold it before he could prove it. And the other guy said no, all you get is VoLTE but not Wi-Fi calling.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
Happy to load up screenshots or info that would help. Made calls last night on airplane mode with WiFi turned on to test. VOLTE is turned on in settings as well, but don't know how to test that one.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
The main question I have is, how is the handoff from WiFi Calling to cell? Some phones completely drop the call while others switch seamlessly.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Amd4life:
LG is crazy with their marketing and delivery plans. It's appears that the US998 won't ship till DECEMBER.

As much as I want one of these, it looks like I'll have to purchase a OnePlus 5T (and hope I can turn off the mass data collection), which will ship sooner (b4 Nov 25).

I want the DAC, but waiting till January/Feb for the deice to be added to the unlock site, is just too long.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I'm not moving down to 1080p and no Qi wireless charging.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Amd4life:
I see you on the resolution, I dislike that too.

One plus dash charger is significantly faster than Qi charging, imo.

I'd rather a rooted V30, but guess I'll pick my v30 interest back up in 6 months. Just disappoints me, I guess.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Yeah, but Qi wireless charging is in addition to QuickCharge.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
I'll test tonight and get back to you with results.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
Alright, just tried it by calling a number with a long prompt. I started with WiFi calling, toggled off WiFi mid call, and then toggled it back on twenty seconds later. Call stayed connected the whole time with smooth hand offs.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] rampantandroid:
Wait, I thought B&H listed the frequencies? VZW's LTE bands were in there along with CDMA?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
They list frequencies but we don't know how accurate they are. Information on all models for band support has been inaccurate across the board. T-Mobile's site compared to what the H932SV actually supports are quite different. Yes, what they list is supported but what the phone actually supports is a lot more. We won't actually know specifically until someone has one, goes into the engineering menu, and lets us know.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] tomiga:
I'm almost tempted to just get an Exynos variant Galaxy S8 for this reason alone...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
They are. We're hoping it has even more bands, like T-Mobile LTE band 71.

Also, someone pointed out a couple of Sprint's LTE bands aren't there, for some reason.

It seems the "official carrier unlocked version" for North America should have all the carrier bands for North America.

We're hoping there's some discrepancy between the U.S. Cellular model (US998) and the "official carrier unlocked version" US998.

The FCC tests for all bands, of course, that are used by U.S. carriers. But LG can file an addendum even two weeks before release of a model, in this case the "open market" US998.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] 20degrees:
I'm super disappointed with LG and their release schedule. But..... You have to realize, there's gotta be more to it than just LG. Samsung dominates the market and the carriers cater to them. There's no way LG can screw up the dates and delays of 3 phones in a row. Somebody or something's gotta be holding them back.

On another note, while Samsung has great hardware, their train of thought of what people want is skewed. With them you get pretty much default samsung hardware. Nothing more, nothing less. But then they push Bixby and whatnot on to you. And the s8's+/note 8 have a large footprint. It's more elongated than it should be. It kinda feels top heavy. I held the V30 and honestly, it feels like the perfect size. But then again, my s7 regular feels better to me as opposed to the s7 edge.

And with LG, at least you get a quad dac and no forced proprietary buttons. While the V30 isn't perfect (far from it imo), I'd rather wait for it instead of getting an s8.

Just my opinion of course. :svetius:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] tomiga:
I was originally going to just get a Pixel 2 XL, until they confirmed that it comes with no headphone jack, no wireless charging and no expandable storage... My Galaxy S6 Edge already doesn't have expandable storage, but with those two other removed things, it would feel more like a downgrade than an upgrade. Google's been really disappointing for me ever since they killed off the Nexus line.

I haven't come to a decision yet as to whether I'm gonna go with the V30 or S8, but I will at least say that LG has really impressed me with the V30, enough to make me consider holding off on getting the S8 and see where it goes...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] rampantandroid:
I'd have pushed my wife to a Pixel 2 if it had a headphone jack (and didn't have screen issues)...as it stands, she got a VZW V30...and rejected it (going back to her iPhone 6S Plus.)

My Pixel XL v1 was not fun to use - bluetooth issues killed it for me. I didn't put a nice DAC/amp/sub/speaker set in my car to listen to it go "Snap! Crackle! Pop!" I really have no faith in Google's phones.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Nosferatu.:
OnePlus took over Nexus in terms of the modding phone. It's a dev friendly devices and damn near stock experience. With the delay on the V30 I'm going to wait and see what the 5T looks like. Wife has the OP3 it's awesome but the OP5 was bit of a disappointment.

Why can't one manufacturer just make a device that ticks all the boxes it's not that damn hard...

Dev friendly

4,000MaH battery

Good DAC/Headphone jack inc.

Good Camera

QHD Screen

Expandable Storage

Wireless Charging

IP67 Rating

Is it that hard to put that all into one package? I can't find one phone that checks all those boxes.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] tomiga:
That's another thing for me, I need something that's going to be reliable via Bluetooth since that's how I listen to music in my car.

What's important to me in my next phone:

- Expandable storage

- Headphone jack (I'm not always using Bluetooth)

- IP68

- Unlockable bootloader

- OLED display

Basically, something that's going to be an IMPROVEMENT over my Galaxy S6 Edge. The unlocked V30 does seem to tick all of those boxes so far though...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] vibrantliker:
Couldn't agree more!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I agree with the sentiment, but OnePlus is not the company you're looking for. They want to pretend they are "flagship killer", "never settle", but until I see a QHD OLED DISPLAY from them they are all hype.

I've had QHD since 2014, I've had Qi wireless charging since 2013. I'm not going backwards.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Nosferatu.:
Different strokes for different folks. I want a screen that just works and looks good. My wife's 1080p OP3 looks fine for phone usage. The OP3 sucks in audio compared to my HTC 10 (and of course compared to the V30). I don't do VR so the QHD is not a deal breaker over 1080p.

I'm a big audio guy (dedicated amp/dac for headphones in my office) and a $20,000 sound system in our dedicated movie theater. I enjoy jamming on the go and these lack of headphone jacks and crappy DACs is annoying.

Going back to the displays, if I want to go wow at a screen I've got two at my house that'll cover for my media ingestion (150" 3D projector and 75" 4K HDR TV). My little 5"-6" mobile phone screen as long as it gets the job done in sunlight and I can view it for web browsing and the occasional YouTube video I'm good. :cool:

I'll stick around this thread and see how the dev community pans out for this device. I need to make a jump soon since my mother's old Galaxy S4 is on life support. I was going to donate to her the HTC 10 and upgrade to something else.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
It's for bragging rights against my iSheep friends and relatives. ;) I've had 1440p and Qi wireless charging for YEARS. And they haven't! Ha!

FINALLY, this year Apple included Qi wireless charging, but OnePlus (Apple clone) still doesn't.

Also this year. Apple went past the 1080p barrier, and OnePlus doesn't know how? Of course, Apple also still can't figure out QHD. But then neither can OnePlus. ;)

I'm not downgrading to a 1080p phone with lesser hardware features (no Qi wireless charging) than I already have or buy a phone with lesser specs than iPhone.

As for dev work, it's been great on V10, V20, LG G6. So, should be great with LG V30.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
hey matt! any updates on the lg v30 for uk? is the H930 unlocked for root? all the korean versions on ebay uk what about them? like if something came for £600 today that would be a steal wouldn't it? but I wouldn't buy it if it wasn't going to be able to have root!

thanks man always helping me out here haha!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LG-V30-V...962663?hash=item4b2ba7c5e7:g:HPoAAOSweM1Z9wVe

£710 in ireland, korean version v300
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Neither "open market" LG V30 model has yet been placed on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.

For root you will want Europe H930 or North America US998 (NOT the U.S.Cellular US998 version, but the "open market" version which will be released in early December).

The H930 was only released in the past few days. Takes LG 4-6 weeks to put them on the list after release. Don't know why the delay...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
The only thing LG seems to be consistent in over the years are the delays. :P If the US998 finally makes it out on December 5th, the earliest people will see that make the developer unlock will be February of 2018. That seems like a long time to wait for those willing to wait for the developer friendly version, if LG doesn't decide to take longer than usual due to the holiday season.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Unlike OnePlus and other companies, LG doesn't seem to understand XDA developer word of mouth.

Samsung does. This is why they're still releasing Exynos models with unlocked bootloader in other countries, yet still including U.S. HSPA/LTE bands. That's not by accident. It's so North America people who want root can quickly order from other countries. ;) U.S./Canada "Qualcomm" carrier-branded Samsung is locked down, but the UK/Europe Exynos variants are not -- and they have AT&T/T-mobile HSPA/LTE bands.

LG perhaps can't manufacture their own chipsets, and they have to use Qualcomm snapdragon -- with the same locked down bootloader for the U.S. carrier branded versions... And I understand LG not wanting to compete with the carriers in sales for the first couple of months, so they delay releasing the "open market" variants. But they could sure speed up the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock process for the "open market" variants. Shouldn't take SIX weeks after release! (US997 released for sale May 12, 2017 but not put on bootloader unlock list until June 30, 2017.)

It seems they only do the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock process for current phone after the hype has started for the NEXT flagship. LG G7 is coming early next year, you know.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] GUGUITOMTG4:
LG G7 with S835 is coming early next year, you know. FIXED
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
But won't be added to the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list until June (like the LG G6).

FIXED MORE. ;)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] kmasp:
This phone is so difficult. Been completely satisfied with the hardware experience so far (minus the front camera) and the phone is beautiful, but being on the ATT model the locked down software is a tough pill to swallow for 2 years.

Hopefully the 5t is nice.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Well, OnePlus phones are not really in the same league. No QHD, no quad DAC, no Qi wireless charging, and other stuff missing.

Even an Exynos Galaxy S8/S8+ would be better than OnePlus and would be bootloader unlocked and run on AT&T. Price has dropped on those since beginning of the year.

And we all knew the AT&T LG V30 model would be locked down... We told people that a full month before release -- in this thread, back on page 1 -- all the carrier branded versions would be useless for dev work, and exactly which models to buy for root, ROMs, TWRP, kernels.

I'm holding out for the open market US998 and will not buy it until it's placed on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] kmasp:
You make a good point. Although price is a big consideration with 1+ vs these other flagships. However I agree 1+ skimps too many hardware features. Was thinking about an exynos s8, but that fingerprint scanner is eh. Balancing hardware and software, and price when picking an Android is a ****ing headache.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
nice man. there's only silver for H930 atm, do you think there will be black, why isn't black released same time?

---------- Post added at 10:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:32 PM ----------

also another quick question.

im on 25g 4g data for £25 a month sim only contract.

carphonewarehouse uk is doing 16gb 4g data £40 a month with the lg v30 + £180 upfront. 24 months

sooooo

my current plan £25 x 24 months = £600 + £800 (phone outright) = £1400

getting lg v30 now with 24 month contract £40 x 24 months = £960 + £180(upfront cost) = £1140

almost same data allowance. I get the 930 now (I'd rather black than silver really)

I'd actually be better off buying it on contract right now.

say it comes down £300 in 2 months that'll make it

my current plan £25 x 22 months = £550 + £500 = £1050. not really that far off compared to getting it now on contract. main thing is I get it now. but tbh getting it now I don't get root or black, but I don't get it cheaper than waiting till december to buy it cheaper but would it even go down £300 in 2 months.

I'm obviously itching for this mother fker no sht haha!! goddmann :eek::eek::eek:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] roy8846:
CPW has 30GB data £39 a month £140 upfront. Get the blue one?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Customize your phone how you want. Screw LG and/or carriers...

Original Rear Battery Back Door Glass Cover Replacement For LG V30 (different colors)

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/accessories/replacement-cover-colors-t3698366

I'm tempted to order one of these so I can have the color I want.

Silver,

Black,

Moroccan Blue,

Purple (different from Moroccan Blue) -- or even

Gold

.

Or you have a choice of "B&O" or "LG V30" logos!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
where's that? I looked on upgrade and new plan didn't see it.

what about the finger print scanner, on silver it's silver right? on blue it's blue right?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] roy8846:
https://www.carphonewarehouse.com/c...0&upfrontPrice=139.99,29.99&brand=LG,LG&name=,
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Can't help you there just yet. The LG V30 is so new that no one is yet selling the OEM colored fingerprint sensors. But they will. Here's the

colored fingerprint sensors for the LG V20, LG G5, LG V10, etc.

I'm sure the LG V30 will be added.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] karendar:
Don't really care about sim unlocking, bootloader unlocking isnwhat I was hoping for. Guess I'll stick to stock. :P
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Mentalmuso:
LG like you say, simply don't get it. I would have totally had been developing for the V30 if the us998 was in my hands and unlocked before the end of November. But all the uncertainty and pre ordering without a solid date pushed me away totally. I'm a Samsung guy now and loving it. Having bootloader access while the phone is still relevant to new specs is pretty imptortant to me.

[emoji450] --->
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] R800x_user:
Is any of this of use for anyone? Noob question
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] liamou3:
Anyone know if LG will likely differentiate between the European unlocked H930 and H930DS (V30+ dual sim) when it comes to bootloader unlock and their developer list - will both be treated the same?

Thanks
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Probably not. The dual SIM version of the LG G6 is the

H870DS

, but only the "regular"

H870

(which classified as "open market") is on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list:

http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703

So, probably the same with the LG V30 H930. Only the one designated as "open market" gets bootloader unlock.

Just curious, is this H930DS sold by carriers?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] turilo:
Managed to get my hands on a US998, not sure how this guy I got his hands on it but mentioned did a commercial for LG lol

Got a good deal, $600 cad
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Make sure it's not the U.S.Cellular "US 998" aka LS998U. Check in "About Phone" and other places.

If it's really US998, congratulations!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] turilo:
Here's a pic of hardware info
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] EMSpilot:
debug

Does it happen to be a debug device? If so it could be the key to TWRP and root for all carrier branded LG V30's.

Cheers
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] turilo:
Hmm not sure, is there a way of finding out?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] EMSpilot:
Debug

Normally it would be plastered on the home screen in red letters. But if not, try running Fastboot commands. Here is a guide if you are not familiar with Fastboot. Most important Fastboot command would be "fastboot oem unlock".

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2277112

Cheers
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] turilo:
I'll definitely give it a go in the am. I've done a few fastboot commands in the past.

Definitely looks like they need to update this device or apps tho.

Camera or the camera app doesn't look so great compared to my Note 8
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] liamou3:
Thanks. The dual SIM would be very handy though...... I might ask LG - are they any good at responding to queries?

The V30+ H930DS isn't sold by any carriers in Europe (that I can see) but it is available from on-line sellers with a release/shipping date of November 23rd.

Liam
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jcsww:
lol LG has some of the worst customer interaction and support I have personally ever attempted to use. Good luck with that!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] SOCOM-HERO:
Hoping for a breakthrough on this badass phone. Razer phone will have root and a fair bit of cool features, but is GSM only :(. Who knows, maybe the G7 will be more dev friendly.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
I have the US Cellular version of the phone and my hardware info is the same. I think a better way to tell if this is the unlocked version is by the preinstalled apps.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] skywalker-live:
Instead try 'fastboot flashing unlock_critical'.

The nexus 6p changed to that command while the nexus 5x still responded to both. Yes I know they do virtually the same thing but what if that's been the answer ever since all LG phones "lost" their fastboot commands. I'm wondering if doing the flashing unlock_critical without the oem unlock will actually give us full fastboot commands. This would help boot loader unlockable LG flagships v10, g5, v20, g6, v30.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Josh McGrath:
What about the Nexus 6p for recovery flashing? Did the command Change on that
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] R800x_user:
Dont try this on h932sv, all you would end up doing is voiding a warranty by unlocking the bootloader and then dealing with having no fastboot commands to use besides flash all but that's used for the OTAs since it checks for signatures. Correct me if im wrong

edit: thought this was for h932sv but if you have the us998 by all means try it
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] EMSpilot:
If the phone is a user debug all you have to type is: "fastboot oem unlock".

Cheers
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] skywalker-live:
No the only command that changed was the unlock. My thought was that LG firmwares from early/mid 2016 on might only fully unlock with 'fastboot flashing unlock_critical', however if that command is run after 'fastboot oem unlock' it sees that the boot loader is unlocked and doesn't do it's full unlocking power. Sure this may be a long shot but it is worth a try by someone that has never unlocked their unlockable (T-Mobile) bootloader, i.e. don't use 'fastboot oem unlock' at all only 'fastboot flashing unlock_critical'.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
Just tried fastboot flashing unlock_critical on my US 998 from US Cellular and no dice. What it spits back is a list of allowable commands/functions. Interestingly, while on the bootloader screen, it gives me a couple of options that I can type in.

1.Read Device ID

2. Write Unlock Key

3. Check Bootloader is unlocked

1st one works and gives me the ID. I'm not going to try the second one as I don't have an unlock key. Third one doesn't work at all.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] GUGUITOMTG4:
According to the post 183, the ''device-id" command was supposed to fail, but it succeeded for you :confused:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Killua96:
Not on unlockable variant, that command is needed to receive the unlock.bin file from LG
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Josh McGrath:
Did the flashing critical on the T-Mobile unlockable variant and the bootloader just unlocks the same as fastboot OEM unlock
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Meakii:
Hello,

Thank you for contacting us.

It depends on the LG policy in each region.

If there are any changes to the supported devices, we will let you know via our website.

In case of the V30 for the European market, please check again after the middle of this month.

Best regards,

LG Developer site Team

No surprises after asking what devices will get the unlock. :p
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] AliLaPointe:
Do you think this means that the US 998 from US Cellular is unlockable? It gave me a device ID. Two rows of numbers if my memory serves me right.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Killua96:
Nope, this means only that is possible to have the device id, if the model is not supported then the site will give you an error
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] non1oson:
https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/pr...ame=Y&pkeywords=Y&search_performed=Y&q=lg v30

so are we sure the H930DS wont get bootloader unlock? if so that sucks because it's £200 cheaper or £220 cheaper if uk/eu bought it now compared to say carphonewarehouse uk £800 for the h930