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[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] mademan420:
Oreo Update for non beta users

http://www.droid-life.com/2017/08/29/verizon-pixel-android-oreo-update/
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] flipper44:
Incoming on VZW pixel XL

I've got my update incoming now. 950.7 MB.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Bo$well:
I just received my update on Telus running stock 7.1.2
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] speedingcheetah:
Buddy of mine on VZW has gotten the OTA....I asked him to send a screen shot of the build number...I wonder if its different than those who got it via Beta trick.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] makapav:
The greatest irony is that Verizon devices Pixels are getting updates ahead of the Google Store unlocked Pixels. Who'da thunk even a year ago this would ever happen in their lifetime.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] speedingcheetah:
because VZW has an exclusive contract with Google to not only sell the phone physically, but also be the first to push the OTA after Google's own beta enrolled users.

Afte beta users, its VZW models first then...unlocked ones on vzw...then everyone else.

They are supposed to release the OTA files on their site so users can flash them and not wait for OTA push...but that hasn't happened with 8.0 yet.

https://developers.google.com/android/ota
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] makapav:
Where is this documented?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] speedingcheetah:
that's what multiple devs messaged me and I asked google support directly via chat....they confirmed that

dont know any link to official doc on that
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] samirspatil:
Got OTA today

Got OTA today 950.7 mb file

Am on stock 7.1.2

Unlocked in India

Pixel xl
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] makapav:
It's a load of crock. Google support staff are some of the most clueless persons regarding their own product in my experience. Here is the final info: https://goo.gl/11LF5H
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] awakenedwithin:
Same, kinda tempted.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] speedingcheetah:
yup...got ota same build posted to the update site.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] oache:
Got it last night 1am Uk time , disappointing that PIP is not working for YouTube if you dont pay that subscription

Pixel XL User
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] scorpio_bpl86:
is there anyone who got the oreo update in the US who got their pixel from the play store and are on T-mobile ( and not on beta ) ?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] leeosenton:
OTA Play Store on Verizon

I'm not part of the beta, have a Play store Pixel XL, on Verizon without contract. I got the notification for OPR6.170623.012 last night and it installed without issue. Everything is working so far. No issues with Wifi or Android Auto, I haven't tried bluetooth yet. Too soon to call battery life but it appears normal. :good:
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] samhall:
Play store XL on project fi, no OTA yet.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] FZ1Darren:
play store pixel xl on at&t. update showed up last evening. unrooted. locked. whoa. just realized how out of date my signature is. crazy.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Squier 51:
VZW OTA

Installing Oreo OTA now on Verizon Pixel XL
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] BootlegZani:
Yes the official OTA from Verizon came out yesterday. I got it on my Pixel XL from the Play Store w/ Verizon SIM.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Mike02z:
My wife's Pixel just got it. My XL was part of the Beta. 938 Meg download for the Pixel.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] VeryCoolAlan:
Pixel XL bought from Google Store with T-Mobile.

Have not received it. Still stuck on 7.1.2

So I'm guessing it's slowly rolling out.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Jonathan-H:
I am downloading the update as we speak. Pixel XL Unlocked UK.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] scorpio_bpl86:
same here .

who thought google phone from the playstore would get the update after everyone else
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] kolyan:
Verizon and ATT are getting OTA pushed

Anyone with T-Mobile? In one of the forums I heard it might be an issue
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] chrisstl:
I assumed a Play Store Pixel XL on Project Fi would be like first in line... Very surprised to not have the update by now.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] scorpio_bpl86:
can you link that forum ?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] kolyan:
Was posted in Google forum
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] samhall:
I couldn't wait any longer, I flipped beta on, updated, and then flipped it off.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] chrisstl:
I thought by flipping the Beta off that Google would OTA the device back to 7.1.2? That's not true?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] samhall:
Only true if you have a beta build installed when you flip it off, the beta build right now is the OTA release version.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] scorpio_bpl86:
did the same

Thank you
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] VeryCoolAlan:
But if you flip the beta off doesn't it reset and erase the device?

Or no? That's the only reason I never did it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] flashflash:
Also, is the Beta version exactly the same build as the standard OTA release?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] tiny4579:
It doesn't reset unless it downgrades which it won't do on a release build.

---------- Post added at 12:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 PM ----------

The latest "beta" is the final version. Build numbers are the same.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] VeryCoolAlan:
Ha!

That's funny I finally got the update.

Am on a Pixel XL from the Google Store on TMobile.

Never enrolled in beta program.

Received September 2 @ 4:00 AM
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] cmichael258:
Just received my update notification. I purchased through Google Store and am using fi.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] jay661972:
Same here, im on tmbile but since the update cant dl any apps or update the installed apps using data. But wifi it will dl no issue. Do you have any issues using data in google playstore? Thank you
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] VeryCoolAlan:
No but my issue now that I upgraded is my camera does not work. It gets stuck on "processing HDR" like what the **** Google.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] SteveyJack:
Getting trolled good here.

My Pixel C updated middle of last week but my Pixel XL, purchased simfree from Carphone Warehouse in the UK, still hasn't.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] gheymann:
Join Beta, get Android Oreo, then leave beta....

No, I got tired of waiting so I joined the beta, got the Android O update, then left the beta. As long as your on a stable build (release build like Android O 8.0) your device won't get wiped when you leave the beta. So far no problems, loving Oreo.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] SteveyJack:
What build number am I looking for before I unenrol?

It's on Android version 8.0.0 and build number OPR6.170623.012.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] ikarma:
On Verizon. Received mine at about 8pm cst Sept 7.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] vintagephone:
Got it.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] altwu:
what build number do you get after flashing the OTA?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] ikarma:
opr6.170623.012
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] martinez5241:
Version ending in .12 is for Verizon and at&t bands. I was on version .11 when I factory reset my phone without my sprint simcard inserted it stated there's was a new v.12 version but upon inserting my simcard while it downloaded via WiFi on phone it canceled the updated. Said that v.11 is the most current state.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Shipoftheline:
Oneplus etc are talking about releasing it soon, how the hell do we get it
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] Shipoftheline:
I’ve just been talking to them on live chat and they said because I bought the phone from Carphonewarehouse (a Google supplier) I have to wait 14 days after its released on Google Play phones even though the Verizon network in America are getting it…………………………………that’s me finished with Google Phones now, they can go forth and multiply, should have just stayed with Samsung considering Google don't seem to give a ____ about updates either
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] J4DedPrez:
I'm on T-Mobile and flashed the .12 and everything has been working just fine.

Any reason to use .11 instead?
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] speedingcheetah:
just got Sept 8.0 ota on my Pixel xl. Substratum/Andromeda Theme even stuck after install and reboot.
[Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers] makapav:
Thanks - that's good to know!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] thanujas:
Im a newbee and I just bought a SAMSUNG S7Edge SCV33 AU and i want to network unlock and root the device

Can any one help me with this
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] everyonesweird:
I unlocked this device from a local store. If ure here from my place around.. i think i can help u on this.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] thanujas:
no im in japan now.. can u post ur software info screen shot please
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] everyonesweird:
have u managed to unlock it yet or not???
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] jhupz:
i saw a site that teaches how to do unlocking through flashing .. is it okay to post other sites here in xda?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] vince_junior:
Hi jhupz.

Pls pm me the link.

Thanks
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
I was given a link. ;) cronociclope Senior Member ;)

I tested it. 100 for 100 on :cyclops:

It is necessary to return or to be emu 4. (MM).

Have the unlock code. (Bootloader).

Have downloaded the full firmware (2 files) Full-ota-mf-pv that twrp can install.

And have downloaded the firmware update, full full-ota-mf (no pv). (3 files).

pc+ winzip+ twrp (chinois), carteSD,

regard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTBvz71l4s0&t=1s

So on the pc, with winzip. Because with winrar for me it does not want to transfer large volumes. : :(

_ Downloaded a firmware emui 5. Full-ota-mf-pv for your device (it's a firmware in two files, which twrp for MM can install).

_______ update.zip and datafull hw-eu.zip

Uploaded emui update 5. Full-ota-mf not written pv and that does not share ota. But we want it. : :rolleyes: (this is a firmware in three files).

________update.zip, public file and data hw-eu.zip

_ Open the update file of the pv version and delete the update.app, then open the update of the no pv version, and transfer update.app in the pv version.

Do the same thing with the datafull file hw-eu and data hw-eu.

In the public zip, there is a data folder with the product and system files.

In the zip data hw-eu, there is a data folder with the cust and version.

We can also transfer them.

In the zip data full hw-eu to data / hw_init :cyclops:

_copy your two new .zip files onto the SD card.

_start the phone in recovery twrp MM.

_ Go to wipe, advanced wipe, check all except well-sure sd card, and wipe to wipe.

_allez to install, installed both zip, it will show you two errors ignore them.

_allez to reboot, reboot system.
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
Hello

in the public zip, there is a data folder with the product and system files.

In the zip data hw-eu, there is a data folder with the cust and version.

We can also transfer them.

In the zip data full hw-eu to data / hw_init
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
regard

2017.09.20	VNS-L21C432B382 http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1903/g1755/v97161/f1/full/update.zip

filelist http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1903/g1755/v97161/f1/full/filelist.xml
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] TheOneWhoSpeaks:
B383 was released on Firmware Finder.

Install the OTA one (mb version).
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
yes, full-ota-mf

2017.09.21	VNS-L21C432B383 http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1903/g1755/v97303/f1/full/update.zip

filelist http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1903/g1755/v97303/f1/full/filelist.xml

and

your pkg install full-ota-mf-pv vns-l21c432b371

2017.03.21	VNS-L21C432B371 http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G753/g104/v89798/f2/full/update.zip

filelist http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G753/g104/v89798/f2/full/filelist.xml
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] TheOneWhoSpeaks:
got an ota update b383.

failed at 32%

gg huawei
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
strange 32%

with this method, I can even install p10 lite.

can be checked, the update.app that is the good you place in the update.zip

go to wipe before installing update.zip edit this seems important.
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
2017.08.30	VNS-L31C432B390 http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1903/g1755/v97199/f1/full/update.zip

filelist http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1903/g1755/v97199/f1/full/update.zip
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] razvangabriel82:
If I am rooted and I have TWRP, can I install the update?
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Paolo83:
I installed update without come back in mm and without reset phone by this steps:

1)flash Hassan twrp recovery

2)download the 3 update file

3)extract update.app from update.zip and from update_full_VNS-L11_hw_eu.zip.

4)With Huawei update extractor extract the image file (system boot vendor cust version misc) from the two update.app and flash It with recovery. The product Image is not falshable, you have to extract this with ext4imageview

5)do a wipe cache and davilk and flash magisk zip to root. Install magisk manager (with the new update b391 i have some problem with supersu)

6)copy the file extract from product Image and data file extract from update_full_VNS-L11_hw_eu.zip and data_full_pubblic.zip in /data and in /product partition with solid Explorer with root permission.

Reboot

It's ok

http://oi63.tinypic.com/29cncx4.jpg
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
Hello

Hello

ALSO Product.img of update.zip?

Because, he does not want, that's why, I always go to MM.

bad reading sorry,
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Paolo83:
We are not able ti flash product with this recovery, we can try to ask information to Hassan. The solution is to extract product.img with Android ICS JB EXT4 imagefile unpacker and copy the folder in /product with solid Explorer and root permission. It replace the file with the correct attribute. You have to use this metod to copy data folder
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
I've already asked him to hassan and he added to install twrp product image, but its not working.

I tried to copy pasted already with a file explorer, but every time, things break. (either with force close parameters, or force close camera, or boot-animation disappears and becomes android).

there is always something wrong.

Yes, we leave from MM everything is ok, clean.
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Paolo83:
You have to use solid Explorer It works!! With this procedure In five minutes I upgrade to last version
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] TheOneWhoSpeaks:
Managed to update to b382.

Seems stable and somehow, the battery is much better o^o
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
go

time to download, c432b390.

And to transfer everything in the b370 zip, then to go back to c432b160, I installed it correctly.

so this version is emu 5.0.1, patch September 1, version kernel 25 aug and baseband 286.

as you can see. ;)
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] TheOneWhoSpeaks:
Updated to b382 vns-l21.

Problem : No notifications on Hangouts. I must go to my friend's chat in order to see the notification.
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Doble_f:
I have a question for [MENTION=7545593]Chisetdel31260[/MENTION] or [MENTION=5417055]Paolo83[/MENTION] or for whom I can answer it.

Is it still unclear if it is necessary or not the data_full public, which contains this .zip? And how can I add it without errors? Thanks to whoever can guide me :angel:
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
Hello

yes, I add it.

you just have to open the folder data / hw_init /

sorry,

for my bad English.

yet I do a great deal of effort.

for that google translator, does not blow up the planet.
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] cronociclope:
Hi Chisetdel, I share this video, which includes the files OEMinfo.zip, Update.zip and Update_data_full.zip modified and ready to install via TWRP directly from EMUI 4.1 for the L21 (C432B382/EMUI 5.0.1) and L23 (C605B372/EMUI 5.0.1): here

Greetings
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
firmware vns-l31c432b394

hello

2017.10.18	VNS-L31C432B394 http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1903/g1755/v100146/f1/full/update.zip

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...46/f1/full/public/update_data_full_public.zip

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/...l/VNS-L31_hw_eu/update_full_VNS-L31_hw_eu.zip

source http://pro-teammt.ru/firmware-database/?firmware_model=&firmware_page=0 (typed vns-lxx)

I made vns-l31c432b394 in full-ota-mf-pv, I imported it on my google drive.

** https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UG7Q9HubCRZ2Qo-tQRoEpxikeF9eJBwo

so,

since b160, MM.

Bootloader code, install twrp for MM.

went to Wipe, Advanced wipe, check all except SD card. and wipe.

went to Install, update.zip and datafull.zip. reboot.

here is.

in the search bar typed 8.0.0 and look at who has Odeo. :silly:

not us. :rolleyes:

just say thank you,
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] punteruk:
What do you mean by Odeo?

What's the difference between B394 and B393, dual sim?
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
ah odeo (oreo) just a joke : p

oreo I hope it will be the next update. emui 6.0

For the difference between b394 and b393

double-sim pair-digit b394 emui 5.0.1

odd-odd single-sim b393 emui 5.0.1
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
hello

2017.11.09	VNS-L31C432B398

http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1903/g1755/v102706/f1/full/update.zip
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Hope we can get oreo in the next year, or else i will loose my trust about Huawei.
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Didymos234:
Hello. I'm new to this forum and I have a huge problem with my Huawei P9 Lite and I hope somebody here will try to help...

A few months ago I was in South America (Bolivia) and I bought Huawei P9 Lite from the shop with all the papers, box, etc. When I came back home (EU) I realized, that the phone is OK, but there are ANY updates from Huawei available.

I started to Google for this issue but I couldn't find anything interesting. My VNS-L23 is still on the very first (stock) version of Android 6 and EMUI 4.1 (VNS-L23C605B120), although there is Android 7 and EMUI 5.0.1 available obviously. The phone can't get any update through OTA nor throuhg firmware updater (I tried several firmwares but the scenario is always the same: it fails to install, there's a verification problem every time).

I'm not very familiar with all the tools available, but I'm good enough to do anything on my own if I have a good instructions. Anybody heard ot the issue with updating? Looks like this phone have them blocked or something...
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
hello regard http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=1269006
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Didymos234:
Since it's in Spanish, I don't understand a word...

But from what you're saying I suppose the answer is at the link you pasted?
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
yes, I advise you to ask for your bootloader code on the huawei website.

Then install twrp for emui 4.0.

Then install the firmware emui 5.0 that suits you.

here is.

in my opinion, it is the simplest.

for the bootloader code, you could use the toolkit.

he will show you the links to request the code and also he can install twrp for emui 4.0.

toolkit https://xdaforums.com/huawei-p9lite/development/europe-vns-l31-toolkit-bootloader-t3432873

link for the firmware emui 5.0 for your version http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=1269006

or here huawei direct firmware http://pro-teammt.ru/firmware-database/?firmware_model=vns-l23c605&firmware_page=0
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
Vns-l31c432b398

I imported the firmware for VNS-l31c432 already worked on the mega.

therefore, to install from then MM.

https://mega.nz/#F!tpMxDB6b!2AJQbvT1mJttQNR8I7R4jQ
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Didymos234:
I did everything exactly as it was explained here and after updating my phone is:

1. displaying information that it's unlocked:

2. rebooting

3. displaying information that it's unlocked:

4. displaying huawei e-recovery like this: bit.ly /2jqbooC

What should I do now. I think I did everything correctly...

****.

Edit: as far as I see the phone can't start but I can still get info TWRP. Do you think I should install completely new firmware straight from the huawei site? Probably it won't work too, since the OTAs were impossible... Is there any "stock" firmware I can use? Please help.
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
Hello

Yes,

1_

after installing the update.zip and datafull.zip,

it is normal when first restart it says erecovery.

when it closes the bootloader.

he needs to do the wipes.

so. tell him "shutdown"

Unplug the cable, went to the Huawei stock recovery mode (volume up and power).

Make factory rest and wipe cache. restarts.

it will be on your official update with the bootloader closed.

2_

also.

it can happen, that twrp for MM.

do not flash the datafull.zip correctly.

Restart when even.

And, you will probably miss appls (keyboard, etc ....).

not serious.

Make the bootloader code.

Install TWRP for nougat,

reflash datafull.zip.

restarts.

everything will be there. he will .
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
Vns-l31c432b402

hello

1: MM

2: code bootloader + twrp MM.

3: install, update.zip + hw_datafull.eu.zip.

4 reboot.

https://mega.nz/#F!sktiDa6Q!v2_7whLAO-dFRkD-dQ29zg
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Fra078:
Is your phone dual-sim?
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
yes, i have vns-l31c432 dual-sim. :good:
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
Vns-l31c432b404

Hello

update, vns-l31c432b404.

since vns-l31c432bMM (b160).

booloader code.

install twrp MM.

since twrp mm,

went to Wipe, checked all except SD card.

went to install install update.zip edit and install datafull hw-eu.zip edit.

reboot.

If, datafull hw-eu.zip does not install correctly.

Do not panic. :crying:

redo bootloader code,

install twrp for nougat 3.1.1.1

and reinstall datafull hw-eu.zip.

reboot

here is

https://mega.nz/#F!Yg8E0Z6R!ETPCjHjcEICFYj8ToUFjrQ
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Azeem Shah:
Hi please help me my mobile version l31C432B130 dual sim

Please tell me how to upgrade nougat
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Chisetdel31260:
Hello

since your current version VNS-L31C432B130.

Me, I use the toolkit 0.0.012 (for the bootloader code and recovery twrp emui 4.0)

** https://xdaforums.com/huawei-p9lite/development/europe-vns-l31-toolkit-bootloader-t3432873

** download these two updates.zip and datafull files hw-eu.zip. and place them on the SD card. https://mega.nz/#F!Yg8E0Z6R!ETPCjHjcEICFYj8ToUFjrQ

1: Unlocked bootloader.

2: install twrp for emui 4.0

3: restarted in twrp.

4: went to wipe / checked all except SDcard./

5: went to install update.zip

6: installs datafull hw-eu.zip

7: reboot.

and here you are vns-l31c432b404 emui 5.0.1

January version.
[Huawei P9 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] zion44:
why u do upgrade manually the ota is already online!!