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[Magisk] tigersaid:
Okej, I managed to install magisk v18 and SafetyNet passes.

I had xposed installed before when I used magisk v15 that's why I couldn't install magisk v18.

So I uninstalled xposed first then I could get magisk v18.

But after I uninstalled xposed and rebooted, I downloaded "knox checker" and the app showed 0x1 which means it's tripped.....

And after I installed magisk v18 the "knox checker" showed 0x0....

Is it's spoofing automatically fake 0x0 on knox?

But then I hid all samsung apps in magisk v18 and rebooted and tested samsung pay.

It did not help... It still knows I'm rooted or have modified the phone...
[Magisk] TheUndertaker21:
you can't use spay after you root

no matter what you do.

however if you have a gear 3, you'd be able to use gear spay with magisk
[Magisk] tigersaid:
What about the new Galaxy watch? I have that watch..
[Magisk] TheUndertaker21:
you can too

it doesn't have mst though only nfc
[Magisk] gsmsource:
If you have a samsung phone there is no way to root and have spay anymore on the phone or watch. Magisk only works if you are using a non Samsung device. Anyone who has spay working for the galaxy watches set it up a long time ago and haven’t updated. Very lucky.

Samsung has other ways to detect root or boot loader manipulation.
[Magisk] TheUndertaker21:
what are you talking about ? LOL

with magisk 18+

you are able to use gear spay on rooted samsung phone.

just hide gear spay app and done.
[Magisk] gsmsource:
You are probably the only person who has successfully done that. Nobody else. I have 10 Samsung phones here and none work with magisk since version 15
[Magisk] my370z:
My gear S3 got update the Samsung pay plug-in to the latest version recently still work great using Magisk hide with Magisk 18.
[Magisk] gsmsource:
What phone do you have?
[Magisk] Barracuda77777:
wrong, I am using magisk v18 with latest spay for my Gear s3 with no issues, I am even on MicroG. you are doing something wrong on all your devices. I got it to work on my Samsung Note 4, and also on my current device the Mi6.
[Magisk] tigersaid:
Have you installed TWRP on those Samsung devices?

Is it a custom rom?
[Magisk] gsmsource:
I have successfully had it working before many times and now it doesn’t. I have a note edge and gears s3 and will try again today.
[Magisk] tigersaid:
And also:

When you unroot the samsung device, dose the knox show 0x0 or 0x1 on knox checker application from Google play?
[Magisk] gsmsource:
I never have a problem with spay when I install original firmware. My knox has been tripped on that phone since 2015.
[Magisk] Barracuda77777:
yes to both questions. running LOS, note 14.1 and 15.1 for MI6. both custom built by me to run microg
[Magisk] GoJo ^^:
"Knox Checker" where do you get that? Unable to find anywhere.. Anyway, i got a Galaxy S7 (Exynos) and a rom that's said to have Knox removed. Yet it was tripped before. Magisk hide doesn't help for Samsung Pay. Any ways to use it as of now on rooted/unlocked phone..?
[Magisk] tigersaid:
I found "my" in Google Play..

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bryancandi.knoxcheck
[Magisk] my370z:
I thought this thread is about Samsung pay plug-in for gear S3 paired with rooted phone. Not the Samsung pay on your rooted phone.
[Magisk] GoJo ^^:
No... check title
[Magisk] andyero:
How can i disable auto updates for Samsung Pay Plug-in auto updates?
[Magisk] gsmsource:
I haven't found a way to really stop auto updates. If the plug-in detects and update it will force it. In other cases the Samsung store will update it. I can confirm however that I have spay working on the gear S3 again with magisk 18. It's possible also that the ROM that I'm using now on my phone helped.
[Magisk] sobirin90:
After reading all the discussion, I concluded that once we installed custom recovery and magisk on our Samsung phones, there is no way we can use back the SPay on our Samsung phones (not smartwatches) again, even we flashed back to the stock as the Knox has tripped.

Is this statement correct?
[Magisk] Didgeridoohan:
I don't do Samsung, but as far as I know that is completely correct. Once you've tripped Knox there's no going back and any apps (a lot of Sammy ones) relying on it will no longer work.
[Magisk] sobirin90:
Noted. Say bye bye to my Samsung note 5 NFC capabilities.

Will never root NFC Samsung device ever again.
[Magisk] Phreaker47:
Just got notified theres a samsung pay update. Anyone know if this is detecting magisk again? dont want to update until I know (on non sammy phones this is still working since magisk author fixed spay root detection a couple months back)

Note: this is for the galaxy watch plugin version of spay
[Magisk] my370z:
I just updated on my gear S3 to version 1.7.5806 latest spay plug-in. Everything seem to work fine. The only thing that I can't access at the moment is the Samsung Rewards. It kept saying failed connect to server.
[Magisk] MrBrady:
My phone SP app updated fine. No issues with Magisk. However I can't get the updated watch app to install and am also getting the failed to connect when trying to access rewards.

Edit: Somehow the SP watch app updated too but I still get the update notification and server unavailable when trying to access Rewards.
[Magisk] Phreaker47:
Just updated. Make sure the app update on the phone side gets installed too

No Spay root detection... still workingt
[Magisk] MrBrady:
Are you able to access Samsung Rewards?
[Magisk] Phreaker47:
Actually no, and when i try, it spams me with notifications to update the app until i kill it.
[Magisk] ATP-Flo:
Why??

You can still use GooglePay and also pay with WearOS-Smartwatches.

Thats what I did.

- wanted to buy Samsung Galaxy Watch

- realized the problem with Samsung Pay

- bought Fossil Q Explorist 4

- use boon and GooglePay

- happy

Would rather say:

Won't buy Samsung stuff again before they allow root.
[Magisk] MrBrady:
I heard people have been having root detection with Google Pay recently too.

What's 'boon'?
[Magisk] vash_h:
May i know your magisk version? Because i can't hide spay.. it's not listed in magisk hideView attachment 4716780
[Magisk] Huey85:
Has anyone got SPay on G.Watch working with a rooted S9/S9+ on a custom ROM? I'm thinking of rooting and installing a custom ROM - just wanted to know if there's any chance of me still being able to use S.Pay on my G.Watch after doing this? I'd just end up using G.Pay on my phone as I don't use S.Pay on phone, just S.Pay on my watch.
[Magisk] Teracotta:
Samsung Pay is giving me this message:

Update Samsung Pay

A new version is available. Samsung Pay must be updated to continue.

New features:

-Feb

However, the download fails. Even unrooted, fresh install on a never-rooted device, Samsung Pay fails to download off stock firmware, and forces this update when I use ripped APKs.

Anyone familiar with this problem? I have Knox 0x0, it is not a knox counter issue.
[Magisk] MrBrady:
Seems like SPay isn't compatible with Android Q beta, even with Magisk Hide. Before rooting, SPay was saying 1) My Gear S3 is an unsupported watch (never seen that before) and 2) Detects the device has been modified.
[Magisk] LinoX:
and by "ripped APK" you mean "downloaded not from the official store"?

---------- Post added at 05:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:02 PM ----------

they updated the detection...but I heard that magisk 18.2 addresses that.
[Magisk] MrBrady:
I'm on the latest Canary build, which is 18.2. All Samsung/Gear apps are ticked in Magisk Hide.

Previously I was on Dirty Unicorns, using Magisk 18.1 and SPay was working fine with Magisk Hide. This makes me think it has to do with compatibility with the Android Q beta.
[Magisk] OrganicRobot:
For anyone that wants to get Spay working via Samsung watch using a magisk rooted phone, uninstall the Samsung pay add on. Then install this apk: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsu...g-pay-for-gear-1-7-3006-android-apk-download/

Don't open it directly from the install screen!

Go into magisk hide, nowbfind and add any Samsung watch related apps to be hidden from root.

Now open Samsung pay from the gear app and follow rhe prompts, everything except update of course ?

These are the steps I just took to get everything working on my rooted oneplus 6t and galaxy watch.

**Thanks to my370z for testing. Was able to continue using spay after updating the watch firmware and Spay version. Just be sure to install the older apk, get it working, then update afterwards.***
[Magisk] Soooperstar:
Are you on the latest firmware on the watch?
[Magisk] OrganicRobot:
Just checked, I'm on tizen 4.0.0.1
[Magisk] benjdc:
Working - brilliant, thanks
[Magisk] NeoKbm:
I guess many people have asked many times, but ... for Samsung phones with Knox 0x1 does not work, right? [emoji26]

Enviado desde mi SM-N950F mediante Tapatalk
[Magisk] MrBrady:
Has anyone tried Spay on Android Q Beta 2? I tried on Beta 1 without root and Spay wouldn't load, saying the device was modified.
[Magisk] OrganicRobot:
Unfortunately, I don't have a Knox tripped Samsung phone to test on. I'd imagine that if you were able to root the device, you may be able to use the older version of SPay and get it working. Not sure though.
[Magisk] my370z:
Just updated the gear app today, after the gear app updated, update Samsung pay... work and fixed the rewards page also.
[Magisk] OrganicRobot:
You were still good after the watch and SPay were on the latest release? I've been afraid to update either one because I really like the SPay :D
[Magisk] my370z:
It's better than the previous version. The newest version fixed the can't connect to rewards page problem. I just used sp on my gear S3 at Walmart like 15 minutes ago. Confirmed it working ? %100
[Magisk] OrganicRobot:
Just updated the watch and Spay. Had to go to McDonald's to confirm they're working :P

All is good, I'll update the post in a bit. Thanks for testing it first ?
[Magisk] acters:
I would like to add some more info. I'm on magisk beta 19.0 and latest Samsung pay gear app update. Do not turn on magisk hide for the Samsung accessory service. This breaks card registration(add and import) and more as it's used to communicate with the gear watch.
[Magisk] Phreaker47:
New Spay watch plugin just popped up today and now it is once again detecting Magisk. I get the nag message trying to open spay in the Galaxy Wearable app... however, I can still initiate spay on the watch, though i'm unsure yet if I can actually use it.
[Magisk] Barracuda77777:
Strange, I am on the latest $am$ung software, majisk 18.1 everything works, I can add cards and open spay with no warnings, I am on Android 8.1.
[Magisk] Herox:
My wear app updated today and it's not letting me add cards or view payments. I can use my cards already on the watch still.
[Magisk] my370z:
Thanks for the update. Did you back up your old version before the update? I always backup with titanium backup before the update. Never use the restore function of TB to restore the gear app yet...not sure it the restoration work. Anyone ever use TB restore the back up app successful?
[Magisk] Herox:
It's not recent but I do have a backup. Could I install the previous version and restore app data that I have?

Edit: older version won't work. Says it needs to update or no connections to watch.

Edit EDIT: Tried doing the thing previously mentioned and installing that plug in, hiding it, and then opening it via wear and now all my cards are gone and it STILL won't let me use it. :crying:
[Magisk] my370z:
Probably your version too old..try to find the previous version before the latest apk to install. I think it's the best. Mine is rocking solid. I've been using several times daily. Adding new card is not a problem at all. Mine version number is 2.2.24.19031361. I hope that would help.
[Magisk] Herox:
I reinstalled the watch plug in and did not update and it works again. So it's all in the gear plugin thats an issue.
[Magisk] Phreaker47:
Same status for me... Spay on Galaxy Watch still works for cards I already had added before the update, but I cannot access Spay on the phone (Unauthorized changes). So if I ever have to re-add my cards, or spay gets updated on the watch side, i'm hosed.

I am on latest Magisk (18.1) and latest manager. Using Arrow OS Pie on a Moto G5+.

Glad you guys got the old version working, but my experience with that has been that they eventually force the update.
[Magisk] Herox:
So mines been functional no problem for a week or two now, knock on wood. I still have not updated the plugin at all. For a few days it was working then detected, but it's been fine and showing me purchase notification just fine. Incidentally I'm like platinum on rewards now but it doesn't load

The plugin won't force an update one version low.
[Magisk] marcozpaulo:
Thank u VEEERY much

I'm using ALEXIS ROM 7.5 on my Galaxy S8 exynos and this trick works perfectly. .. Thanks
[Magisk] Herox:
Magisk updated fully (module and manager) and added a Samsung AP patching thing. Not sure what it does but the newest plugin still detects root with magisk. I'm sticking to 1.7.4 still, works 100% with magisk.
[Magisk] Barracuda77777:
the updated Magisk fixed it for me, I am on the latest updates from Samsung, sigh, soon samsuck will update again to break it.
[Magisk] Herox:
I'm not sure what magic you used. I still have to use Samsung pay 1.7.4606 to use it properly. Otherwise it pops up with unauthorized changes message. And I'm on the newest magisk 19.1 and manager.
[Magisk] Barracuda77777:
I updated samsung foolishly couple weeks ago and that stopped it working, I tried re installing the older version with no avail, I knew an update to Magisk was around the corner so I just waited, I installed the update, uninstalling the old magisk first then installing the new one, used magisk hide to hide the following:

Galaxy Wearable

Gear S Plugin

Samsung Accessory Service

Samsung Pay (watch plugin)

At first it updated the samsung pay again, then when I opened it, it just worked.

I am using my own Custom built LOS with MicroG, Phone = Mi6
[Magisk] Herox:
Ahh. I'm on an S8. But I have all these hidden too. Not sure, probably just detecting knox tripped. But 1.7.4 works for me.
[Magisk] Herox:
I updated my S8 rom and now it won't work even on the old version. Always says it detects changes. I even tried the canary build. Samsung makes me not want to buy their stuff anymore.

Edit: It's the Kernel! switching to NX kernel solved everything. Latest Spay plugin and Canary and it all works. Hurray!
[Magisk] Herox:
To anyone who wants to use their watch but getting issues, just uninstall magisk by using a clean boot image. Running NX on my S8 with no magisk installed to the boot, the latest version of Spay watch plugin works 100%. Clean boot, add your cards, add magisk. Watch will work you just can't open the app on your phone.
[Magisk] Phreaker47:
With latest updates I'm still in the situation where my previously added cards still work but I can't open the spay plugin on the phone. Hopefully this can be resolved before something happens and I'd have to reinstall my cards. Does that rollback trick mentioned earlier still work? I'm not on a sammy phone so no knox.
[Magisk] vash_h:
I'm on sammy note 8, android 9.

Hide all spay packages, including gear plugin on magisk..

It works in my gear sport.
[Magisk] danny10900:
Hey so im pretty new to rooting and I dont know lots about coding/coding terms.

Rooted my S10 with Magisk, everything works correctly, only issue is not being able to use samsung pay on my S10.

I found a sort of bypass, if you have EdExposed installed just open the installer, hit the three dots then choose reboot. When your phone reboots magisk wont be active and samsung pay works again.

To get back to rooted/magisk just turn phone off, boot into recovery (power, volume up, bixby) choose reboot from that menu, then hold power, volume up, bixby until the unofficial software notification pops up and goes away.

Thought this would be useful to add as it seems that nox is not affecting my phone after reboot/disable magisk

If anyone can tell me how to be able to purchase using samsung pay whilst still having magisk active on my S10 that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
[Magisk] my370z:
Did anyone try the new OS update for the gear s3 yet?
[Magisk] my370z:
Does Samsung pay plug-in still work with your rooted phone?
[Magisk] MrBrady:
I'm not sure. I was on the Q beta until about an hour ago and Samsung Pay doesn't seem to work with Q. But I'm back on Pie (Havoc ROM) and getting it all setup now. I'll post tomorrow what I find out in terms of SPay and the new OS update.
[Magisk] MrBrady:
Works fine on Havoc ROM on my Pixel 2 XL and Magisk 19.2
[Magisk] my370z:
Confirmed after updated the S3 OS, Samsung pay on my S3 still work good with Magisk18.1. although, I didn't update Samsung pay plug-in to the latest one yet.
[Magisk] my370z:
Does anyone noticed the new update OS draining a bit more battery?
[Magisk] my370z:
Updated to the latest gear plug-in and SP today. Confirmed SP still work great with Magisk 19.x
[Magisk] dimon222:
Hint for people who have magisk, enabled hide for necessary samsung pay applications but still seeing "unauthorized" message on Samsung pay.

Go into android settings, apps, permissions, on Samsung pay remove access to storage. Now launch Samsung pay, it will complain that it doesn't have access to storage, follow prompts and allow to access it. Suddenly, now you're able to continue without new popups about "unauthorized", add card, activate, etc. It didn't come back even after reboot... Using latest versions of all Samsung apps without issues.
[Magisk] TheUndertaker21:
Latest version of magisk and spay for gear worked

Also worked with edxposed if you black list spay from the installer and check instant module list.

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[Magisk] mnx846:
Describe in more detail how to set it up. My Xiaomi Mi9 does not work.

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[Magisk] spanop:
S7 edge i have the latest magisk 19.3 and spay 1.7.5906 , still dont work
[Magisk] Aterfax:
Also have the latest S7 release stock with magisk 19.3 running renamed manager mode, everything is set to hidden, build.prop corrected to work with Samsung Health (which does work) but Samsung Pay for Gear S3 v 1.7.7906 still complains about unauthorized changes.
[Magisk] leonicampos:
Hi guys, I have a rooted galaxy s10e exynos. I can't make in app payments with Samsung Billing, I can buy on galaxy store perfectly, but in a game that use billing samsung app, the error message appears. Any ideias?
[Magisk] Herox:
Yea since like 2 plugin updates ago it detects. I been using Canary builds of magisk too. If you have an S8 I find using a clean NX kernel flash lets you use samsung pay 100% perfectly on gear wear. I setup my cards and then flashed magisk back and it goes back to detecting it, but my cards work on my watch just fine.
[Magisk] [Cruzer]:
if you install plugin version 1.7.5606 works just fine.. just make sure after you install.. to set update to "never".
[Magisk] sumeshmeena:
Samsung Pay mini is not working with magisk. Is there any workaround?

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[Magisk] johnp357:
you sir are the mother Effi#$ man.!!
[Magisk] majikfox:
Doesn't work anymore. Pay doesn't request storage permission.
[Magisk] giri.sgc:
Hi,

I am using samsung note 8 SM-N9500. I rooted my mobile and it tripped Knox 0x1. Now again i unrooted it. But now samsung pay and samsung health are not working even though i am running official OS.

please let me know is there a way to resolve it or to get Knox 0x0 again or else atleast Spay Shealth ?
[Magisk] uTamii69:
Unfortunately, Knox now is Hardware tied into an e-fuse once you trip it, it will stay tripped forever.

I haven't found a way yet to spoof it, as my Samsung A30 SM-305F has no proper root yet, and i tripped mine trying to root it with custom magisk boot.img
[Magisk] playez:
Hi,i flashed my phone to custom rom,now i checked the knox,and apps saying its 0x0,is it fake?
[Magisk] Tom60chat:
/sbin/su

Hi,

Si i was on my way to downgrade SPay and I found a log file from SPay inside my phone storage for some reasons.

I looked inside and found this :

<Detection>

Date Time Source Policy Summary Current Warning Ver Name Description

2020-07-17 21:11:31 [1302] 52355100 00000800 00000800 5.3.0 (USBDEBUG ) USB Plugged

2020-07-17 21:11:53 [7102] 52355100 00004800 00004000 00004000 5.3.0 (ROOTED ) com.topjohnwu.magisk

[...]

2020-10-08 16:17:20 [6020] 52355100 00004000 00004000 00004000 5.3.0 (ROOTED ) /sbin/su

...

The "/sbin/su" part was interesting to me, so I try on Termux without root access if it can find this su file, I got a permission denied so every app can detect if the su file exists and guess whether the device is rooted.

I rename the su file to su2 and reinstall SPay, SPay doesn't say anything about root, juste stuck on "Checking availability..." but I thinks this is another personal probleme with my watch.

I check the logcat and I don't have SECURITY_THREATS_DETECTED_ROOTED, so have fun to try if it work for you :good:
[Magisk] Valiante:
Was the last solution to install plugin version 1.7.5606?

Is that it?

EDIT: Does not work. Forces an update.
[Magisk] Liaisonish:
Just works from Android 10/later, not work on Pie
[Magisk] dcbii:
I did it right on my OP3T with the Termux app. After getting the shell started, I used the following commands:

su

cd /

mount -o rw,remount /system

cd /system/xbin

rm busybox (you can also rename it)

cd /

mount -o ro,remount /system

However, that busybox was not the decisive one. I was still getting the rooted error after removing that one. I had to remove (rename) the one in /data/local before it started working for me.
[Magisk] schmaltzy:
I try that and it tells me "device or resource busy" when I do the RM command.
[Magisk] dcbii:
I had that same problem at first, but that was when doing the command as "mount -o remount,rw /system" or "mount -o rw,remount,rw /system" (these were versions I saw in older posts). When I changed the command to "mount -o rw,remount /system" it worked for me (this is on OxygenOS, 4.1.7). I'm not really sure why the argument order matters, but it did on my device.

It's always possible that on another device or OS/version, the command is working differently, but in any case if it's still broken, I don't have any further advice to offer. I'm not an Android expert, so I just experiment or google a lot.
[Magisk] tcntad:
I just hid everything with samsung on my OP3T to get Samsung Pay (For Gear) to work....
[Magisk] xFierce:
So I just got this working and though I'd share. You need to have magisk and and hide all Samsung apps. Then use root browser and first change permissions of the system folder to write. Afterward you need to completely delete busybox from xbin or bin folder.
[Magisk] stevywong:
Work on Samsung pay Mobile or Samsung Pay Gear ?
[Magisk] xFierce:
For Samsung pay for gear.
[Magisk] pcpimpin:
This did the trick!! THANKS!!!
[Magisk] dimon222:
Just hiding of samsung apps in Magisk worked pretty well for me. LG G5 stock with magisk.
[Magisk] Soooperstar:
Gear version working fine with magisk 15
[Magisk] ReyStunner:
If ctsProfile & basicIntegrity are not "true" for whatever reason, it wont work (for Gear at least). Theres probably an app or module installed that triggers this. Plus make sure all samsung apps are hidden with MagiskHide
[Magisk] coolhandz:
Would anyone mind posting a step-by-step to hide BusyBox from Samsung Pay? There are good posts on this thread, but it is kind of hard to get a clear picture if you aren't quite sure what you are doing. Thank you
[Magisk] Didgeridoohan:
Easiest way should be to install the busybox module from the Magisk repo (Manager Downloads). It'll be hidden for any apps or services you've added to the MagiskHide list.
[Magisk] coolhandz:
Are you referring to "BusyBox for Android NDK"?
[Magisk] Didgeridoohan:
Since that's the only busybox module in the Magisk repo... yes. :D
[Magisk] wy1d:
I don't have busy box installed at all and still getting access denied when trying to open Samsung Pay from the Gear app. Everything Samsung is hidden with Magisk Hide on my phone. I've tried updating Magisk to the latest and hiding Magisk Manager. Any other ideas how it's detecting?