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[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Having an incompatible app running in the background (for instance) could make the whole system feel slow. It's not that Chrome is incompatible.

BTW you can monitor what's running in the background using Developer Options > Running services. I imagine you'll find RAM is being all used up as that is the most common cause of a slow system with this device.

When you reinstalled did you install all the same apps over again? If so, then the same problem would easily return.
[Nexus 5X General] hozjacz:
OK, you say that the Oreo (in your case) has the same speed as Nougat? You don't see any difference? I don't say that you aren't right, but my experience is other. And what about others?

Of course is possible, that some application which I'm using haven't new build (for Oreo), but I installed them from Play store and if some of them has incompatible SDK, it would be impossible to install it. If I can install it, it should works.

I think that isn't fine has the fast mobile without any application - it doesn't make me sense.

In attached picture are my running processes... Do you see anything strange?

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[Nexus 5X General] Madfysh:
Ah, so finally supersu v2.76 stopped working with oreo (opr4.170623.006).

Was wondering when this day will come.. :D

Had been using it all this time, that was latest version before chainfire team up with CCMT
[Nexus 5X General] hozjacz:
For Oreo I'm using SuperSU v. 2.82 SR3. The file is called:

SR3-SuperSU-v2.82-SR3-20170813133244.zip

and working fine for me.

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[Nexus 5X General] nowster:
Unfortunately SuperSU had a major foul-up a few months ago which meant I started looking elsewhere. For Oreo (and later Nougat) I've been using Magisk without problems.

Magisk has come on a long way in reliability since this time last year.
[Nexus 5X General] blunt_eastwood:
I did that change from OpenGL to skia (sorry for lack of specifics, I'm not a developer) and it seems to have sped things up. Would a factory reset help even more?
[Nexus 5X General] tbonezx11:
Anyone know if the Full OTA Image will work on my Nexus 5x on Tmobile? Tmobile never sold the 5X, so they won't release an OTA update. I'd heard the radio in Oreo didn't fully support T-Mobile. Anyone have updates / Real-world knowledge of issues?
[Nexus 5X General] greenfuse:
Sorry - my reply got lost. But anyway:

I'm not the poster you're replying to, but if it helps, I've been on Oreo since it was released. For the first few days, it was kind of laggy, but after a few days it's been great. I did do a few resets in that time.

I'd say its maybe faster than N was, and I think i get marginally better screen time too. I also use ElementalX Kernel and the glasscannon profile in EXKernel manager.

Usually whenever the phone gets laggy, i go check Running Services or Greenify, and find out that an app is causing the problem.

One thing that was weird is that for a while, bluetooth kept firing up BT-associated apps in the background. I left BT off for about a week to avoid that. However i turned it back on a couple weeks ago and it hasn't happened since.
[Nexus 5X General] pdxcire:
I used the first full OTA to update mine then flashed the full September factory image with wipe. All TMobile and no issues here. Note, first full day battery was poor. Second day and after battery is great, for me - moderate to heavy use, both OTA and full images.
[Nexus 5X General] robotzki:
Hadn't heard about this before, but after changing from opengl(standard) to opengl(skia), that actually seems to make things run smoother. :)
[Nexus 5X General] Buddlespit:
I'm using Project Fi, which uses T-mobile and Sprint. I try to keep it locked on T-mobile because Sprint service is spotty in some parts of my area. I have no connection/ radio issues.
[Nexus 5X General] pacmanman:
mirror cast

Hi guys, any of you have a rooted nexus5x with a working miracast to an LG TV?

I'm not talking about to cast to a chromecast device (this one works), but to cast to a TV, you need to add a line in the build.prop file "persist.debug.wfd.enable=1", when I tried it, it got disconnected almost immediately, some times it go for about 5-6 secs and then disconnect, I have tried rooted stock oreo and rooted elemental kernel oreo.

An old moto G can mirror just fine, the issue is on the N5x.

Thanks
[Nexus 5X General] z0ned:
Having been on Oreo a week now, I've got to tell you guys the improvement in battery life is for real. I was recharging every day and a half under Nougat. I am getting three days or more under Oreo between recharges, on the same pattern of usage. So double.
[Nexus 5X General] edwardola:
is there a way to disable google on the 5x?
[Nexus 5X General] giovaorama:
You are a lucky guy. [emoji16]

I'm my case it is seem even worst.

I even made a factory reset.

Moreover i have a lot of Bluetooth minor and major issues expecially with Android auto.

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[Nexus 5X General] hozjacz:
Hi. I did a wipe on my wife's phone with the script flash-all.bat. And during the initial wizard I choose that I want set gesture before boot whole phone. And now my wife is angry, that she has to use gesture after reboot. Please is possible this obligation remove? (without wipe)

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[Nexus 5X General] iamterence:
Why would you do that lol
[Nexus 5X General] _mysiak_:
Settings, security, click on screen lock, choose pattern, "use secure boot?" choose "no".
[Nexus 5X General] hozjacz:
Great, thank you very much.

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[Nexus 5X General] Maximator01:
Ok.. So here is my case... My 5X is not rooted and every android version I got is through system update. Now I have 8.0 and my phone is just unusable. It is laggy, glitchy and on top of all that it drains battery like a complete freak. Maybe I had too high expectations and now I'm simply disappointed. Did factory reset twice without any improvement.

Here are a few things that struck me the most:

- Static display overlay of an app in background appears over all apps. And only thing that changes are buttons. I can se how apps are opening and closing underneath the bottom button bar. Not much that i can do. So only restart helps.

- 3.5 jack stops working in the middle of the song despite being manipulated in any way. Replugging jack does not help at all. Again only restart helps.

- high battery drain - this is just pathetic. All those statements about how it conserves battery are a complete BS on my device.

So now I'm like... really? Google?
[Nexus 5X General] doggie13_:
Same here... Rooted, tried both stock and PixelROM, both franco and ElementalX. Battery life is seriously sh*t, barely can get 2h of screen on time. Rolling back to Nougat, if you know anything that may help, tell us ffs.
[Nexus 5X General] rp158:
I'm happy with ABC and FrancoKernel r46. Clean flash, of course. If your system stays slow and battery-eating, search for foul apps: Oreo's battery stats are fine to find them.

Edit: screenshots battery-life
[Nexus 5X General] Letitride:
For now, I would agree - been on the PixelRom, both stock & franco's r45 kernel, gotten progressively worst & sluggish. Was ready to rollback to PN v7.1.2 and live with that.

What the heck do I got to lose, except my play time - so, did a full factory reset, clean & fresh install, ADB sideload latest factory rom (Sept's) & once it booted up, install TWRP & Magisk to root plus Franco's latest, r46. (Note - attempted a dirty flash w/o wiping data, and it was NOT good for me, bootlooping into TWRP again & again, gave up !) It's always a P.I.T. you know what in setting up from scratch & restoring, but I'm glad - that 2 seconds delay & sluggish feel seemed to be gone, for now. It's much more responsive with changing animation to 0.5x and the developer sub-setting change mentioned by others.

Battery life of up to 3 days as reported while it sat overnight, drop to 3 hours while playing but it said 2 days with battery at 80% level. Will let it settled down for a few days to see how it go with real world usage. Bonus - it passed Android Pay's sampler test so maybe it is usable again, but not a deal maker ... nice if I can use it a my favorite vending machine to get soda or chips/snacks while on break.

Meanwhile, I'm clicking & turning off unwanted settings & background data hogs, trimming the brightness & shutting down unneeded beeps, etc. Key "test" for me is while driving & listening to MP3's, I can answer a hands-free bluetooth call quickly & easily without lags, and not get dropped or the N5X bootloop or shutdown, that, to me - is happiness for it doing the basics & delivering a good end user's experience.

Update (Thurs 9/28) ... don't think that I am really missing any "important" tweaks from a custom Rom. Day 3 running OPR4 build (security patch 9/5/2017) ... nearly stock, battery standby time is good enough, drop with usage but I don't see NOT getting at least a full 15 to 18 hours of moderate usage with 8.0.0 released. I am usually never too far from a charger or mobile port, or usb battery pack for a boost if SOT begin to run low. No longer sluggish, bootlooping or freezing when quickly switching app ... could be the a combined effort using the new updated rom and franco's #46 kernel.
[Nexus 5X General] gbru2505:
Battery on stock is getting steadily worse for me. I'm not using the phone any differently to before. The device now requires a second charge at 4 or 5pm daily. When I installed O originally I had 10% left after 16 hours, which had been better than N (on stock and custom). Now, this past week in particular, I need to put it on charge after 10 hours - 6 hours earlier than when I first moved up from DP4. The promising start is rapidly becoming a great disappointment. But then, Google wants us to upgrade. no?.
[Nexus 5X General] iamterence:
Google is forcing us to upgrade our phones by making newer OS versions run like trash on older devices.

Tbh, makes sense. I'd do that, too. Money, money, money
[Nexus 5X General] hozjacz:
I see, that here is many disappointed users of Oreo on N5X. I have following experience: at home we have two N5X, me and my wife.

I have root and so on (often I'm trying other custom ROM and so on...). My wife has no root and she use her phone like a standard user.

I flashed me the first release of Oreo when was released - OPR6 and it was terrible. After that comes OPR4 via OTA (according the recommendation here I flash Stock recovery and I can use OTA) and system was still laggy. I tried wipe and I extracted and reflash all disk parts via ADB, set the system again and now I think the system is almost useable.

My wife got directly OPR4 (from Nougat) via OTA and she was also very disappointed, because the system was very laggy and so on. I did, that according instructing on Google web site I unlock her bootloader and I used flash-all.bat file (via a ADB), set whole system manually like a new device and now she tell me, that the phone behavior is better then before.

Maybe it's impossible, but it looks like, that the system image is strange, if is only created and updated with OTA update. It looks like that is better flash system.img whole at once and after that do a wipe and everything is better.

Please try it...

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[Nexus 5X General] miksontije:
October image is out

8.0.0 (OPR4.170623.009, Oct 2017)
[Nexus 5X General] hozjacz:
Unfortunately I tried yesterday the trick with the flashing the stock recovery and after that update via OTA, but this procedure ends with the error. I had to flash all whole *.IMGs. Do you know why?

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[Nexus 5X General] _mysiak_:
My guess would be that there was some issue with the OTA file. Description mentioned Pixel phone and it failed due to verification issue. I didn't experience this problem with previous OTA. I had to sideload full October OTA as well (very easy to do with stock recovery)..

Edit:I've checked content of the "small" OTA file and this time OTA tried to patch boot.img, which has been already modified by Magisk and ElementalX. I believe that in previous cases there was whole boot.img included and reflashed by OTA. I hope that future OTAs won't patch boot.img, otherwise we're stuck with manual updates.
[Nexus 5X General] gbru2505:
Bit the bullit. Factory reset, flashed full stock image using fastboot, re-locked bootloader for OTA app restore, Pay and Netflix and was pleased to see '6 days' estimated battery this morning. 25% left now after it came off charge 20 hours ago and a fair bit of phone setting up and Deezer downloads through the day. Looks like you are right my friend- something is possibly seriously wrong with Google's OTA upgrade from N to O. I'll give it a month to know for sure if the problem is resolved - providing the October update hasn't patched the system drain in the meantime of course.
[Nexus 5X General] ritchea:
After doing a second factory reset with Oreo because of the system/app lag (which remained), I came across this http://mobileinternist.com/nexus-5x-slow-android-oreo. It wouldn't solve some issues, but it solved my lag.
[Nexus 5X General] Akopps:
Multitasking took a big hit. With only Chrome and podcast player open, each of these apps reloads its interface every time I switch to it. Very bad. I think I could go back to Nougat or finally get a phone with more memory.
[Nexus 5X General] hozjacz:
Thank you. I'll try it. Every idea which can help with the smoothing is welcome.

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[Nexus 5X General] Akopps:
All people complaining about Oreo problems must first reset the phone to factory settings. Apparently, Android OS is like Windows which corrupts itself slowly with time and eventually needs to be wiped out and rebuild. This is of course a major pain in a butt (Don't tell me the cloud will save your ass, because I have like a gazillion things on my phones that the cloud won't backup). This is really bad for Google's reputation. I had iPhones that survived several iOS updates just fine.

Case in point, my phone. After Oreo update, completely unable to hold any app in memory. It reloaded every app as soon as you switched back to it, even if it was the only app in memory. The interface was getting ridiculously slow and unresponsive and the phone needed a reboot, even after switching to the alternative opengl library. The "OEM Unlocking" option impossible to turn on, it just stayed grey no matter how many times I tap on it and enter my PIN. Fortunately, the factory reset option still worked, and that's what helped me to get this phone to a quasi-usable state, now I need to manually restore a whole bunch of stuff.
[Nexus 5X General] z0ned:
In another thread it says only system.img and vendor.img have changed from September to October stock 8.0.

To confim: does this mean I can sideload the update by flashing just those two partitions? It seems like the answer should be yes.
[Nexus 5X General] iamterence:
Except, I always flashed factory images (which is an ENTIRE wipe) and it was still laggy.

However, I will say though, I've been on the recent October official build and performance is actually quite nice. Still not on Nougat level, but it's definitely way better than the initial build and September build. It's passable now. I'm also rooted and using Shadow Kernel this time around, so I don't know how much of a difference SK makes vs. the EX kernels I was using on the previous builds
[Nexus 5X General] drvalianto:
"Android Oreo is all for improvements about performance and battery life...". That's what they said and that is totally bullsh*t. It is the laggiest android version that I've ever used. I went back to Nougat and cannot be happier. The fact is that Google now is just abandoning Nexus and Pixel is their sweet child.
[Nexus 5X General] LR07:
You do know the Nexus 5X only has 2gb of ram right? That is basically nothing
[Nexus 5X General] iamterence:
Exactly. We're using an outdated phone with even more outdated hardware. I love this little guy, but it was time to put it in the drawer once the Pixel made it's debut. That goes TRIPLE now with Pixel 2 out, the LG G6/V30, Galaxy S8, etc. Like I said above, the recent October patch has been doing well for me, but it's time to retire this device
[Nexus 5X General] Akopps:
The issue I have described was not normal with 2GB of RAM under either Marshmallow or Nougat. In fact, I have discovered that the issue was because of a corrupt Oreo install after receiving the October OTA update.
[Nexus 5X General] LR07:
I've noticed lag before I upgraded to Oreo. I do agree it has gotten a little worse with Oreo though.
[Nexus 5X General] iamterence:
As laggy as Oreo is, I'll admit that this is the most battery I've gotten on this device, ever. WITH HEAVY USAGE OF FACEBOOK AND MESSENGER
[Nexus 5X General] gbru2505:
After unsatisfactory battery after moving up from DP4, completed a full reinstall of Oreo factory image which seemed to dramatically improve performance for about two weeks. But for the past few days the phone has been disastrous. Terrible camera performance using HDR+. Awful lag sending Whatsapp images and video. Backing up files over WiFi slow. Reboots required daily when I'm ending up with a black screen.. Battery stats graph doesn't refresh after a charge and holds contradictory figure to the notification bar. Bluetooth sucking the life out of the device and consuming 10% of the battery in a day when it has not been used: previously, it was unnecessary to turn off Bluetooth, now it is vital. Chrome itself utterly hogging battery and Google app getting updated every 2 days. I have no idea what Google are doing, but stock Oreo on N5X is a basket-case of a ROM at this point for me. Doing some travelling in a few weeks and seriously considering buying a Chinese phone with a big battery instead. N5X cost me £250 a year ago new which I'm still pleased with and I still reckon it was great value for money, but if the latest Android iteration is going to cost £750 to run smoothly, then I'll need to start considering a different Mobile OS entirely.
[Nexus 5X General] MaxDim:
Yeah, because you don't have to pay lots of money for the other mobile OS. I really don't feel the issues you have with the device. But clearly everyone is jumping on the "MOAR RAM" bandwagon, which, in my humble opinion, is outrageous for a mobile OS to be demanding more than 2gb of ram, and pumping up the ram is just a way to sell the newer devices to people.
[Nexus 5X General] gbru2505:
It's still early days on Oreo and I'm optimistic that Google will tidy up some of the issues...perhaps. But I was thinking Flyme, MIUI or Lineage rather than iOS. I thought Google had nailed the custom community by delivering a steadily better OS and listening to users. Wouldn't surprise me if they dropped the ball and open up a space for the competition again.
[Nexus 5X General] MaxDim:
Technically they are not different OS, so most likely most of the core problems in Android will be present, plus that they sometimes introduce issues with the customizations that are made.
[Nexus 5X General] georgiapi:
I just flashed Oreo Wednsday and all is well. I unlocked and rooted to get some apks I wanted and I see no battery charging light and I cannot theme it.

Sigh, I'm waiting for the 1+5T or 1+6 to appear and will look at the hot rod versions with 8GB ram and 835cpu
[Nexus 5X General] hozjacz:
Hi, maybe it was here mentioned, but is possible to flash (dirty flash) Android 8.1 beta (or how it is called) over standard 8.0.0 (ROOTed, unlock bootloader and so on...)

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[Nexus 5X General] hozjacz:
Sorry, but I don't know, what is the Flashfire. I usually flash ROM via TWRP or via ADB. It's the easiest way for me. Can I do it via ADB? Over my current system. Do I lost my data?

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[Nexus 5X General] naania1432:
I believe this is still in beta and not the final version of Android Oreo because after update I am facing huge battery drain lasting for about 2-3 hrs max which is so annyoing.
[Nexus 5X General] iamterence:
The only beta for Oreo is 8.1. 8.0 is public, which means NOT beta.
[Nexus 5X General] :
I was on 8.1 beta few days back then I switched to stable 8.0. And now wen I am trying to update to 8.1 beta again I am not getting the update. I used to get the update withing few seconds but it seems like there's a new update imminent which is why they're holding of the old beta for now.
[Nexus 5X General] Akopps:
I just pulled to plug on Oreo, and went back to the final Nougat images, which gave me my phone back. The Oreo GUI is still way too sluggish and there are still apps that are not fully compatible. I don't know what google was thinking when releasing this. I'd prefer if they continued with monthly security updates for Nougat. Time to start looking for a new phone.
[Nexus 5X General] rp158:
[MENTION=6344443]Akopps[/MENTION]: ...or time to change to perfect running ABC-Oreo
[Nexus 5X General] Frutak:
I think there is a new version 8.1.0 (OPM1.171019.011, Dec 2017), I think this is not a beta because Im beta tester and on DP2 i have build number OPP6.171019.012

But i dont know. For now i dont get any OTA Updates.

https://developers.google.com/android/images
[Nexus 5X General] mikeprius:
Who is going to be the first to try that 8.1 lol
[Nexus 5X General] r3act:
Just downloaded the full OTA and updated with flashfire. All seems to be fine so far...
[Nexus 5X General] nowster:
Got it within a few minutes of it being released. Been OK so far (about 3 hours).
[Nexus 5X General] bromoxitos:
i use 8.1 for 2 days now!! ok at last my laggy nexus 5x after oreo 8.0 it stops!! all this weeks now after i install the 8.0 my nexus lags and freeze some times( clean install from image google page)

it flows now,no any lag, scrolling is more easy and without crashies(smooth) and the apps loading great!!! i don't khow what they did but at last they fix laggy nexus 5x with 8.0!! i think i will stay in this version for all my life hahahah!!!
[Nexus 5X General] iamterence:
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[Nexus 5X General] bromoxitos:
No no I speak truly, after 8.0 my Nexus becomes like Samsung UI lags and freezing and fc apps, and that was in all security patches, but now it feels like New..
[Nexus 5X General] rp158:
I'm on ABC since 1y and I've always actual smooth Android. No need to wait on well-working firmware-packages.
[Nexus 5X General] azertguigui:
This is fixed in the new Android 8.1 release.
[Nexus 5X General] frankras:
8.1 is out now as OTA.

Running stock Nexus 5X.

Frank
[Nexus 5X General] NoFatePPC:
Hi,

i am still running on 7 nougat, i disabled notifications to update to oreo 8.0 because of all lags

if i now enable notifications again, it tells me to update to 8.0

is it because 8.1 is not yet available on ota? or do i need to update first to 8.0

and then afterwards to 8.1?

or can i go from 7.1.2 to 8.1 once its ota available?

thnx
[Nexus 5X General] nowster:
The OTA path is 7.x -> 8.0 -> 8.1. Expect to download about 900MB each time.
[Nexus 5X General] NoFatePPC:
Ah, then ill wait for the ota 8.1, is it already available? Now i Cant check ;)
[Nexus 5X General] nowster:
Yes indeed it is. In a similar situation an out-of-the-box Pixel C tablet upgraded itself from 7.1.1 to 8.1 via 8.0 on Friday evening.

When I got my N5X back from repair last month it went from 7.1.1 to 8.0 then incrementally upgraded itself through the monthly updates. (This was before 8.1 was released.)
[Nexus 5X General] NoFatePPC:
ok, we will see what happens once 8.1 is available :)
[Nexus 5X General] frankras:
Am I the only one that got the 8.1 update ?

Frank
[Nexus 5X General] grabber5.0:
I got the notification this evening, but haven't hit go yet.. wanted to see some reports of how it's running on the 5X first.
[Nexus 5X General] theGeekyLad:
8.1 on the Nexus 5X is extremely laggy. I've got issues with Facebook and Snapchat that gives up. Quite un-optimized but turns out the battery backup is awesome. I'm on OPP5 right now with a pending upgrade to the stable one!

Will try out the Dec '17 update and let you guys know!