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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aybarrap1:
Wave to wake keeps sensors powered on all the time as mentioned by [MENTION=2001582]acejavelin[/MENTION]. You also have to account for the fact that just being in range of the sensors can turn on the display. With Moto display turned on without wave to wake, you can just bump/move your phone to wake the display, so I find wave to wake is really unnecessary.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yk1999:
I was getting poor standby time on nougut.

I provided screenshots of gsam,stock stat, better batterystat.

There are many screenshots so i zipped them and attached to post.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yk1999:
I provided screenshots.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acejavelin:
I'm not seeing the problem... I wish I could get battery life like that.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yk1999:
The problem is on nougut overnight drain.

And there is so much wakelock.

I tried using greenify free version.

The number of wakelocks reduced but overnight usage is high

And one day i charged it it 100 percent and didn't use it until noon and i only got about 2 hours and 30 minutes usage.

I keep wifi ,mobile data, Bluetooth ,nfc off.

Did you see all screenshots or one.

If one than which one?

I only watch 720p or 460p hardware decoded videos or read mangas or books or read webpages don't do much heavy usage.

I am using this mobile for only 2 or 3 months.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acejavelin:
I payed through random screen shots and the overviews of GSAM.

You have about 1.3% per hour drain, correct?

Thats really good... I average 2%-2.5%/hour on Marshmallow
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yk1999:
Well i agree that 1.3 isn't much higher considering i keep moto display,moto actions,wave to wake on.

But the problem is when i keep it for 11-13 hours in standby mode it does use about 9-10 percent if i use greenify. But when i use it in noon i only get 2 hours sot.

But if i charge it in morning i can use it for upto 4 hours.

I can't understand why is that.

Does the kernel don't show battery percentage currectly?
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acejavelin:
Honestly... I don't know, but I think your over thinking it. Your battery usage will vary, but I see no red flags that cause concern.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NahuelMS:
For me everything is ok, 1.5% drain a hour is really good, also if you have wave to wake on, it is really really good.

Anyway it is very dificult to see the problem if you upload more than a 100 pictures, with no description in the name to wich is what or what do you want us to look. Maybe if you upload only the screen where you see the abnormal drain we can catch something.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yk1999:
Maybe i am overthinking it.

But i swiched between marshmallow an nougut many time and i always get the felling that marshmallow uses less battery.

In marshmallow idle time and cell standby always show low.

And in nougut it shows high.

Well but it can be because of difference in handling battery stats in marshmallow and nougut.

Thanks for trying to help
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dani_z:
Disable Clock.app.For me drains battery like hell.Use another form Play Store..
[LeEco Le Pro3 Questions & Answers] EK0PS:
Hi guys, I have a issue, this morning I try to connect my Bluetooth headphones to my phone. I successfully launch Bluetooth but he don't wanted to connect to my headphones then I decide to reboot and then now he don't even open Bluetooth...

[IMG="Bluetooth settings"]https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/33/4/1502952077-screenshot-2017-08-17-08-40-54.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="Rom"]https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/33/4/1502952077-screenshot-2017-08-17-08-39-03.jpg[/IMG]
[LeEco Le Pro3 Questions & Answers] EK0PS:
Edit : LOoks like solved by resetting the Bluetooth parameters. :)
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LSS4181:
Honestly, when I was still on some older phones I loved the feature that could display signal strength dBm on status bar, which existed since CyanogenMod (CM7, maybe even earlier). It gives me a better understanding about the surrounding signal quality, rather than some unhelpful signal bars.

For example, when I used to be on a 2G network, sometimes a signal as low as -80 dBm would result in a slow or even unusable web experience, despite that it still appears full for signal bars. (From what I remember, things perform good when the signal is at -60s, with -51 being the highest. Those values all appear as a full signal bar, which makes it meaningless)

However, it seems all recent custom ROMs (LOS, RR, AOKP, etc.) ceased providing this feature (while still allowing customizations for battery icons), not to mention useful solutions (both Apps and ROMs) were virtually nonexistent and even after googling I couldn't get any valuable answers (most of those were years ago and not applicable to the recent Android versions nor dual-SIM devices). Maybe the dual-SIM nature of our devices (like Z00A) is what kept us from having such feature as dual-SIM implementations differ among manufacturers and/or among architectures.

There are some apps available on Play Store for such, but I found none that could support dual-SIM universally. They mainly either only display values for the first SIM, or Wi-Fi signal strength, or crash in case of it being incompatible. Back then with another dual-SIM phone using KitKat, I even tried NetStrength Xposed module. Its duostack looked beautiful (showing the dBm of the first SIM and Wi-fi strength below it if available), but it still can only support one SIM card and there were fewer activities than before and no mentions of Nougat support yet (even though unofficial Xposed Framework for Nougat has been released, just it would cause the device to fail Safety Net tests, including the systemless version).

So I really wish for a reliable solution that could bring back the signal dBm display on the status bar, and for both SIM cards at best.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenbo111:
Since there is no data support on sim2, you really only need it for sim1
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LSS4181:
Maybe yes, but the problem is, ROMs ceased to have built-in support for dBm display even if it's just for the active data SIM. (Even up to Jelly Bean both CM and AOKP have such features)

Technically it's possible to switch the SIM card to be used for LTE (i.e. you can set SIM2 for 4G and SIM1 for 2G if wanted). However, I couldn't find the switch in AOKP settings, but Stock may have this capability. So maybe it's more like you'll need those value for the SIM you're using the data from, rather than just SIM1.

By the way, with CMTE (Theme Chooser) it was always possible to theme the battery icon into showing percentages for ROMs that don't natively support such back then, apparently by creating at least 100 icons, one for for each percent state, plus charging and such. Many good CM themes were capable of this. I dunno if the same can be achieved dBm / ASU wise, though I have found virtually nothing about this part even back then.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] danr831:
Can someone please advise how I can flash the rom to jailbreak?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] andMego:
You can't. It's impossible.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] guest_2011:
only if we force moto/vz to unlock bootloader in this phone.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] nismo87:
somebody know if this cellphone can be unlocked to other carriers working in gsm?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mn1968:
Yes, Unlock for about $2 on eBay. Will work with Tmo & ATT, and their MVNOs. You may, or may not, need to switch to 3G for first call to register (I had to), then you can switch back to LTE without any further problems. You also may need to manually add APN, but I did not need to.

It's a pretty solid phone and can be had for $40 at Walmart, or price-match elsewhere. Really stinks that the bootloader can't be unlocked. I didn't think it would bother me...but it really does. Oh well, I knew it before I bought it. Will be a good backup.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
Which carrier do you use?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mn1968:
AT&T on Tracfone.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
I've unlocked my Verizon variant but can't get any service on it. I know it's capable because the YouTuber J Williams did it and got T-Mobile services to work
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mn1968:
Maybe this will help. Scroll down to the Community WIKI section.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
Didn't help. Still says "Emergency calls only"
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mn1968:
Have you tried entering your APN manually? Try Googling Tmobile apn settings.

Others are getting it to work on Tmo.. https://slickdeals.net/f/10418732-s...w-free-store-pickup?p=103877488#post103877488
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] crailey01:
Maybe your SIM card is activated on another phone. Happened to me on MetroPCS. I put in a SIM that was activated on another phone...it worked fine for about 5 mins., then all service was removed and it said Emergency Calls Only. You really should try entering the APN manually, if you haven't done so already. I'm now using Cricket with no problems at all.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
Already entered two different MetroPCS APNs, still didn't work
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] crailey01:
Is the SIM card active or registered to another phone?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
Yes I'm using it on my Stylo 3 Plus from MetroPCS
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] crailey01:
I think that's the issue. Same thing happened to me. I tried to use my gf's SIM from MetroPCS in mine. It worked for like 5 mins and then lost service. MetroPCS doesn't recognize this phone for some reason because it is a Verizon phone. You could call them and try to add it to your account. Cricket picked it up easily. I just had to do a lot of searching for the correct APN.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
So what can I do
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] crailey01:
Call MetroPCS and register your SIM to your E4, go with Cricket, Straight Talk, or Total Wireless. There's always a possibility that Metro won't allow your Verizon E4 on their network because they want you to buy theirs. I'm sure...as you know, theirs don't even have a fingerprint reader.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
Ok I'll try that out. I have the MetroPCS variant already lol
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] crailey01:
Personally, if I were you...I'd go with Cricket, At&t, Straight Talk (At&t), or Total Wireless(Verizon), because T-Mobile (MetroPCS) coverage is not all that great.

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Oh. I thought you have the Verizon variant.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
I have both variants

And I had cricket before but with Metro I get 2 unlimited lines for $75 taxes a d fees included
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] crailey01:
Oh okay. Does your MetroPCS variant work well with them?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
Can confirm VZW prepaid model fully functional on ATT postpaid SIM via $2 eBay unlock code. eBay seller implies unlock will allow data functionality only. I have data and inbound/outbound calling. No need to manually toggle 3G or manually set APN.

Device throws a "non-verizon Sim" warning at boot, but it is not persistent.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] nismo87:
hi guys, i get a moto e4 verizon through amazon mexico at the same price at walmart USA, 40$usd, here mi moto e4 with freedomPOP mexico simcard [IMG="moto e4 verizon with freedompop sim mexico"]http://img.fenixzone.net/i/5KUEosG.jpeg[/IMG]

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[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] OctoberNexus:
You just need to call and get the IMEI registered to the account on Metro if they ask tell them it's an unlocked Moto E4 and you'll be good to go.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] shonmac11:
Yes, why wouldn't it

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I got it to work. I just hate that MetroPCS doesn't allow customers to just swap sim cards without contacting them first
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mn1968:
Failed attempt to unlock bootloader/root (Verizon XT1767)

So I took a gamble trying to unlock the bootloader/root with Sunshine, but no dice. The app says that the phone passes the tests and the bootloader can be unlocked, however, to unlock the bootloader, it needs root. Of course, if I had root, then the bootloader would have already been unlocked! Classic Catch-22. Can't have one without the other. If it worked, I would have gladly paid the $25 for Sunshine. If only a temp root could be forced.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] QueenLizzy:
Hi I brought one, got unlock code but i cant get past this activation screen? Verizon, thing is im o/seas also help?? what do i do? i did enter unlock code :( Nvm working now turned it off and on strange
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] 63glide:
I have a Verizon E4 XT 1767 that I sim unlocked with a code from Ebay. I don't know anything about flashing and bootloaders, but while playing around with the phone I managed to get to a selection that you can pick to unlock the bootloader after enabling developer options.

Here are the steps after enabling developer options:

Settings > Developer options > OEM unlocking "Allow the bootloader to be unlocked". If I turn that on it gives a warning to cancel or enable. It does allow me to enable.

Does this allow the bootloader to be unlocked like you guys want or is this just another way to sim unlock the phone? As I said before, I don't know anything about this stuff so pardon me if this option does nothing for the bootloader.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] andMego:
It doesn't let you unlock the bootloader
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] 63glide:
So basically they give you the option of unlocking the bootloader but in actuality it's just a tease :)
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] andMego:
Standard option on all phones, why should they bother taking it out?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
Yep, it's a 2 step process - enable unlocking in that menu, then do the process with the code you get from Moto. Except Moto can't give you a code for a Verizon device because Verizon asked (demanded) Moto not unlock them.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] bromanbro:
what's the probability of an exploit being found? I imagine this phone is quite popular (Verizon) considering the price.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] andMego:
1% (if not less)
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] bromanbro:
Too bad then. Won't buy.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] hitokage004:
If anyone looking for the e4 cheap (in the US) can wait, I wouldn't be surprised if there are black Friday deals on it this year, like I believe the G4 Play had last year.

For those looking to unlock the bootloader and root, on any phone, don't get the Verizon version. Either get one from another carrier, or get a retail, carrier unlocked model.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
It seems to me that the development community in general has tended towards buying devices that include a manufacturer approved path to unlocking in the past few years. Presumably this is because there are more of these options available, and the difficulty in finding exploits may have increased as well. Ultimately I think there are fewer developers working on finding this type of exploit, and the ones who are best at it are spending their time on more rewarding stuff.

What that means to you and I: If bootloader unlock is a dealbreaker for you, never purchase a device that doesn't have either a manufacturer unlock path or an already known unlock exploit. Pretty much means VZW and ATT branded devices are non-starters.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] equitube:
Are there exploits to get past a locked boot loader? I've never do ne ot but have been told by devs that it can't really be done. I ran into this last winter with a certain variant of the Sammy J3.

Even if it is possible many devs won't spend a lot of time on a cheap device. (I'm a bit different, I've spent too many hours working on recovery and root on the ZTE 'Obamaphone). I like the E4, for a basic entry level device it's got some great features.

It, and a few other phone have taught me to check for a root method before making that great buy. I have little use for an unrooted phone so I gave it away. I only paid 20 for it (new but used by a friend for 3 days)
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] hitokage004:
Occasionally there are - the Verizon "exclusive" version of the Moto Maxx, known as the Droid Turbo, was able to get the bootloader unlocked in the past year using the app SunShine (by XDA's jcase) that made use of a security flaw. SunShine only worked if you didn't have some of the newer updates installed that fixed the flaw it used. Although those who did install the updates got very lucky, as another exploit that was found gave temporary root privileges, and allowed SunShine to work on those phones too.

If your phone has an Android version with security fixes of April 2017 or earlier, you could see what SunShine's checks report to see if it might work on your phone. If it thinks it will work though it costs $25 to actually have it do its thing. I'm sure if it the checks pass and it thinks it will work, then doesn't, they will look into getting it to work, or possibly give a refund.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] wetherb67:
So I'm currently with cricket, all I would do would be put my cricket sim in, turn on phone, enter unlock code, and enter APN and it should work?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mn1968:
I tried Sunshine about a month ago on my Verizon XT1767 Moto E4. The app runs a series of checks and says that the bootloader can be unlocked, however, to do so, it needs root. It then attemps to root, IIRC, then says the operation failed...or something to that effect. I contacted the devs at Sunshine and they simply responded with "The device is not supported". I was never charged any money. I think it only requires payment if there is root and the BL can be unlocked. Who knows if it will be supported in the future, but I doubt it. FWIW, I would have happily paid $25 to unlock my $40 device.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] hitokage004:
If CVE-2016-10277 affects the e4, there is a way to get temp root - which is how it was done on an updated Droid Turbo. Since it passed the other tests SunShine does, temp root may be all that is needed.

So, you need to find someone with (or willing to get) a Verizon e4 that knows how the process for creating a malicious initramfs archive - maybe autoprime?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] fix-this!:
surprisingly this is a darn good device for $40. just paid for my sim unlock to use on at&t. I'm not worried about root, especially on a Verizon phone, it won't happen. maybe I'll save up enough and get the unlocked 32gb version. either that or a moto g5 plus. if I decide I can't live without root. ;)

edit: did anyone see the plus model of the E4 comes with a 5000mah battery? might be worth the extra money just for that.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] hiswetdream:
Can I unlock my motoE4 Verizon prepaid bought from Walmart????
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
Carrier unlock? Yes. Bootloader unlock? No.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] fix-this!:
we could ask jcase to look into adding it to sunshine unlock. I took my moto e4 back and got the verizon plus model for $99. unlocked on at&t. this thing is a beast on battery. over 8hrs screen on time and ive got 50% left. I am missing root and substratum but I dont know if I can justify $179 for the carrier free version.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
Holy crap, you got 8h SoT with 50% left on a plus? Dayum!
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] fix-this!:
almost 9 and I was at 48%. I am charging now. it's incredible battery life. best I've ever seen even on flagships. I'm really contemplating paying the extra $80 for the rootable model.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] fix-this!:
I actually took my plus back. despite the awesome battery life the screen was to washed out on a 5.5" screen and the back metal plate had a bad rattle when you hold it. I like the moto e4 but I wish moto would give us a theme engine like sammy and htc does. this device would be killer with a blacked out theme. its the only reason im missing root and substratum.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
Yeah I'm rocking the e4 unlocked. Love it so far. I can live without root only need a modified YouTube app and I'm good
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] fix-this!:
sadly without root you cant have that.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
Yeah you can. It's a modified YouTube apk no root required.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] fix-this!:
im not sure if it would install as youtube is already a system app. have you tried?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
Yeah you can download it and install it. Just disable the other YouTube app
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
Screenshot. First app is the standard one. Second one is the modified apk
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] abense:
So do we have root?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] andMego:
No, never will.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
With the modified youtube app for example, someone modified it to play like a "rooted" app but doesnt require root, just intall it as an apk. Profit :)
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] fix-this!:
never say never. I did ask jcase to try to add it to sunshine. I dont really plan on keeping mine long anyways. really looking into the moto g5s plus.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] classic757:
I hear you. I have the Moto E4 and I was thinking about going to the E4 plus or the Moto G5s plus.

Couple of things though:

Moto E4 imo has better display and better sounding speaker than the E4plus.

Moto G5s plus has camera (dual camera rear) that seems to be subpar for a midrange device.

If I had my choice I would go with the E4 plus over the G5s plus.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] fix-this!:
the g5s has a premium metal unibody and 1080p display. thats the only reason im considering it. I had the e4 plus, the only good thing about it was the battery life. moto really needs to axe the 720p displays, 1080p should be standard.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] classic757:
Thanks for the feedback.

I know right, the 720p has long since played out and I agree that 1080p should be the standard.

Btw, that 5000 mAh battery on the E4 plus is hard to turn down but the phone just doesn't have much else to offer.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] jesuishernan:
Did you sim unlock immediately after purchasing?

I just bought the E4 with the $40 Walmart deal. However, I don't want to open it without knowing if I can sim unlock it immediately, or if there's some requirements that have to be done prior to unlocking.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
I sim unlocked my daughter's VZW E4 immediately ($2 ish code from eBay). Only sim that's ever been in it is my postpaid ATT one.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] busywaffles:
This phone's a beauty for $40.

Make sure to run debloat to get rid of all the Verizon rapeware and SIM notification.

https://forums.redflagdeals.com/wal...a-verizon-moto-e4-39-88-2118036/30/#p28213186

SIM unlocking generally takes ~12h right now through eBay depending on the seller. All you need is the IMEI to PM them, so the sooner you do it, the sooner you get the unlock code.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
Yeah mine took 12 hours. Fantastic phone
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] andMego:
When I did it (with someone else's phone, I have the unlocked version) it took 5 minutes
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
Servers for unlock is slow 12 to 48 hour turnaround
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] andMego:
Sorry but it doesn't work that way, they just open a program a program on their computer and use a calculator to get the code. You can buy them for like $50.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
So I could of used a calculator. Gah biggest waste of 2 bucks!