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[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] andMego:
You need a special calculator which you buy for $50. It's a program.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
Haha I was being sarcastic. Yeah I am happy with my $2 purchase :) amazing phone though!!!!!!
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] busywaffles:
That's cool, could you share the source on this?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] andMego:
https://octopusbox.com something like that.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] 530farm:
I bought the Verizon Prepaid, to use w/ a verizon post paid accoutn/sim. I bought a unlock code off ebay, but was wondering how to go about this, as I dont' remember seeing a prompt for an unlock code when starting up the phone w/ the verizon postpaid sim.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
I am not sure but from what I've read it cannot be used on a post paid account
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] enri1357:
I have unlocked the phone and using it with T-Mobile.

On each reboot, it shows as notification the Sim is not Verizon Sim. Is there a way to disable this check?

Also, for each call, it drop to 3G from LTE, is this normal?

Thanks a lot
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] jlink38:
https://forums.redflagdeals.com/wal...a-verizon-moto-e4-39-88-2118036/30/#p28213186
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
Yes it is normal for it to drop to 3g
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] ricanxd:
Thanks, the method worked great. Did the $2 unlock code off eBay, and now I have a perfect backup phone. SIM card worked and have T-Mobile digits installed. For those not looking to flash ROMs, this is a great phone to have as back up. Best $40 spent:svetius:
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] enri1357:
One more question about Call Forwarding

As someone told me the T-mobile Call Forwarding code not work in thie Verizon Prepaid, the Phone app also do not see the Call Forwarding menu when I am using it with a T-Mobile Sim.

Is there a way to do call forwarding if I am only have this phone while on the go?

Thanks.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] fizz1234:
You cannot do call forwarding as this feature is locked to verizon.

As a work around here is what you can do:

As a work around I put your sim in the old phone, setup call forwarding & then put the SIM back in Moto E4. Since call forwarding is setup at provider level it, moto E4 will read the settings from SIM/account & you can have call forwarding on your moto e4.

To disable it, do the same.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DragonFire1024:
Updated to Friday September 22 Kernel 3.18.31-perf-g6b3f70f-00044-g367cd9fd with baseband version of M8917_16000.269.04.03.01R PERRY_NA_CUST. Is it rootable? I plugged it into PC and ran Kingroot. It asked to try a new root strategy, something it hasn't done before. It usually only asks if there is root for the device (in my experience). Has anyone been able to gain root?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] enri1357:
Do Moto disabled switch user in E4? or Verizon?

I wanted to change the default name for application like whatsapp, but found nowhere. it shows the name I entered in the initial setup but I dont want that auto show up that way..
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] theemaster:
Hello new xt1767 ownerhere..

Umm.. I got the $2 ebay code from unlockscout... but something is going weird with my truphone/att sim.. when I put it in.. I can't answer calls and get some text I missed a call or something? and when I try to dial out I instantly get a error as well? it's like the dialer app won't allow me...

So I'm guessing maybe I screwed up the unlock somehow??

I did these 2 commands also from this tutorial

> pm uninstall -k --user 0 package_name

#disable 'no SIM found' notification for VZW Moto E4

> pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.motorola.setupwizard.phoneservice

So I'm wondering if this explains why I can't get it to work on ATT?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
Did you turn the phone on with the verizon sim in? the first time that is?

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Did you try to root it?

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Did you try to root it?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mn1968:
Go to settings (wireless & networks, I think) and select 3G instead of LTE. Make a call. Go back & switch to LTE again. You're good to go...even during reboots. However, if you remove, switch sims, you'll need to do it again.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] theemaster:
that didn't work.. fact is you have to put in your gsm sim.. then..

In Settings, go to "more", open "cellular networks" then "preferred network type", choose 3G or 2G, test regular voice calls if it doesn't work try another choice of preferred network and test again. Restart your phone. If settings don't change automatically you might be able to change back to LTE and still have it work

And then it worked instantly :) (if you bootup with the verizon 4g sim you won't even see 3G! in the settings) :( found this information on a SD thread of all things.. https://slickdeals.net/f/10418732-s...rtphone-39-90-w-free-store-pickup?p=103080816
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mn1968:
Fact is, what I told you to do was basically what you did. It was assumed your GSM sim was inserted.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] equitube:
Well your first mistake was using King root. I've had nothing but trouble with that crappy piece of malware that doesn't give true root anyway.

It wouldn't work anyway because this model has a locked bootloader making it virtually impossible to root until Verizon lets loose with their code which probably won't happen for a while.

To my knowledge, no one has been able to root this yet. My partner has one of these and I would gladly pay $ to someone who could. Not a lot though. After all, it's a $40 phone tops. He paid 20 for his
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
Still an amazing phone for 40 bucks. Love how snappy and speedy it is. Miss root but not a big deal for me. Ha
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DragonFire1024:
It does give true root. I use it and I get rid of it the second I'm able. If it weren't for KingRoot, I wouldn't have a bad ass Amazon Kindle with a custom tomorrow 6.0 (it had 4.0. it also allows programs to flash custom recovery if possible.

You can still debloat this phone. Which is what I'm slowly doing. It's a simple adb or shell command:

adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.package.name
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DragonFire1024:
Yup. it fails
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] voodooline:
Yeah I wasn't holding my breath. Still I cannot stress this enough! This is a great phone
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] cheesiepoof:
I debloated using the batch file in this post from a Canadian website: https://tinyurl.com/y8cysmma

Agree, great phone. This is replacing my Nexus 6p for now. Performance is snappy. The only tradeoffs seem to be gaming performance and a 720p display, which is fine with me. I like the size and weight, and it's nice to have an FM radio. $40 at walmart, $2 unlock code, and debloated all Verizon apps with above batch file. Working 100% on AT&T Prepaid: all 3G, HSPA+ and LTE working according to LTE discovery app.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] thirdlobe:
Picked up a phone today, purchased the unlock code..... and I'm waiting. Then thanks for the debloat info. I had a Blu R1 HD before and I hope to be as happy with this. Love the fact it has a fingerprint sensor. Was able to get it from Best Buy with a price match from Walmart. Ended up paying 35$
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] scootro:
I've read to make sure you turn off updates just in case Verizon pushes one to block the unlock. So what updates are safe?

so no Android Nougat updates because of Verizon?

Google Play Store updates should be ok?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] KevMetal:
for any of the mediatek mt6737m variants you can use all the roms and guides for xt1762 . i have a post with all the files and techniques to flash recovery and root or recover from brick ...
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] rmshant:
Did you have to insert a Tracfone SIM? If so, where did you get it?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] ejlmd:
Sorry, but the bootloader is NOT unlockable for the Verizon E4 prepaid XT1767, correct? I would love to be able to root, flash TWRP and other ROMS, but I thought it wasn't possible....
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] pepeelboy:
Factory restore... will lose activation?

I have a Verizon XT1767 unlocked (I bought it in that condition, I assume the seller did the unlocking process), so just put my TELCEL Mexico SIM card and configure it. Working great so far, no problems at all. My question is, can I flash the stock Verizon firmware via fastboot or RSD Lite without losing the activation status? Thanks in advance !!!
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
No, bootloader on VZW version is not unlockable.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] gadgetnerd82:
Does anyone know for sure that the moto E4 XT1767 (The one sold in Walmart) has all 4 GSM bands ? There seems to be a version XT1767PP with only 2 US bands.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] ejlmd:
On FreedomPop GSM I am usually on AT&T band 2 LTE in northern New Jersey, occasionally AT&T band 17 LTE. Those are the only two I've noticed. I haven't checked out service with a T-Mobile LTE SIM. I bought the E4 XT1767 from a Dollar General store, and unlock code from ebay.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mixdupkid2002:
Hi everyone - struggling to find an appropriate call recorder for this phone. I have tried Skvalex, Boldbeast, ACR recorder and others however, either my voice becomes distorted or the other caller can not be heard. Is there a setting that I am not doing correctly or is this a known bug for this phone using Android 7.1.1. Please help!!!

Thanks,
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] disk@tek@:
What app gives you the band number?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] ejlmd:
I am using SignalCheck Pro. I think LTE Discovery does as well.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] marzhall24:
Unlock by code of Verizon models is permanent? even after doing a hardreset?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DragonFire1024:
If you bootloader unlock any phone or device, it generally can't be relocked. If it unlocked, and you're able to get TWRP, even if the bootloader locks, your recovery won't disappear. However on some devices, like the Amazon HD 8.9, FireOS will attempt to erase recovery, on both ends, the first chance it gets. That can really screw you, because usually breaks fastboot too.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] marzhall24:
then, basically the unlocking of the bands is permanent there is no risk of losing the unlock of the same when formatting it is correct?
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
He means carrier unlock. I don't think factory reset affects it, but a system update might.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] marzhall24:
well I just delivered it and unlocked I put the chip of my company and I got a system update by ota, proceeded to download and install and did not lose the unlocking
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
Good. I saw someone in one of the threads who updated and lost his carrier unlock. But he unlocked with a code purchased on eBay.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] maruchandd:
Has anyone found any potential to root this yet?

Picked this up at walmart for $40 as a home wifi device (bluetooth music remote, ht remote, stuff like that). Thing is great, If only a root comes down the road,, ooo
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
Unlikely. VZW doesn't allow bootloader unlocking.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dwycoff2013:
There's got to be something in the code to exploit, like the initroot of the xt1609. Verizon didn't allow it's bootloader to be unlocked. Or the SCH-i605. Verizon even went so far as to issue an ota update that permalocked it's bootloader, but we still could says around that via ghettoroot and super sume, with a safestrap recovery to emulate TWRP. There's got to be something were overlooking.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
There's no one working on it dude. Not a high demand device.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] maruchandd:
I really hope someone finds something!
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dwycoff2013:
Hey just letting everyone know:

I am currently in the process of analysing the boot.img of the XT1767 with Android Image Kitchen.. I've unpacked the boot.img down to the boot.img-ramdisk.cpio file, which is a basic directory structure with the init-fs files and the default.prop file, among others. Any help on where to go from here? I know I can't just add an su binary structure and repack it and flash it because it will fail with 'mismatched partition size' error. Not to mention signing... I know AVB was used to sign the image, but idk if tampering with the files\dir structure messes with the signature....? Really, I know is about signing than I do about tampering with the boot.img, and I hardly know about that. Anything, at this point, would be helpful.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
There are several reasons it's unlikely to happen:

1) other versions of the device which are officially unlockable are easily and cheaply available.

2) Bootloaders continue to get more secure. Used to be exploits were found early (even before release in some cases). Now it's usually late, and often not at all. Whether this is due to fewer people working on them, or the higher security, or both, it doesn't really matter.

3) as was stated, this is a low demand device (even though it's way better than it has a right to be for the price)

I hope someone finds something too. But I don't anticipate it ever happening.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] maruchandd:
That's the impression I get. I'm going to keep this device due to the price/value ratio even without root with the hopes that down the road (unlikely as it is) someone does find a method for it. If not I think it's still a steal for someone looking for basically a home smartphone remote.

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GODSPEED
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
Just unpacking it destroys the signature.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dwycoff2013:
Good to know. I'm assuming there's no way to repack it with an identical signature because the original signature is generated from whatever hardware was used to initially program the motherboard of the device?

well, in that case, i suppose i'll just use this to further educate myself on boot.img files and boot.img-ramdisk.cpio files in general. Lol.

Much appreciated.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Aside from being a great WiFi gizmo I use it to decouple navigation from my primary handset by establishing a Bluetooth tether between the devices. The XT1767 uses its internal GPS for location while drawing traffic data etc from the phone. Works a treat. The BT power draw is quite low at both ends and allows flexibility on how each device is used and positioned. Normally I prefer not to take or make calls (texts!) while driving but will engage in 'hands free' conversation when absolutely necessary.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] classic757:
Don't think it's possible to do anything with the bootloader on the xt1767. Verizon's got it pretty much locked down.

However, I do appreciate and applaud your effort.

I use to be into rooting, unlocking the bootloader on my phones with available exploits made by various developers, and the whole custom rom/recovery thing, since the days of my original Droid X. However, I find that (for me at least) with all the advancements in technology and the way OEM's make and design/ develop their phones, I don't need the time- consuming, somewhat addictive methods of rooting, unlocking bootloaders, and flashing custom roms/recoveries the way I did back in the day when phones had only 512mb memory and were skinned to no end.

It is still good to see someone interested in unlocking bootloaders, although the task is now more difficult than ever with all the security advancements in place and more being developed all the time.

Nevertheless, thanks again for your efforts. :good:
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] maruchandd:
Sounds like one of the great uses for such a device. One of the latest Garmin GPS-only units is going for $250 USD.... I got this thing for 40. Ridiculous!

Since you have experience doing this, how do you streamline the method of bluetooth tethering each time you get in the car such that it's less of a hassle than just plopping your main smartphone into a holster? And do you have any other canny experiences with turning non-root Android devices into a swiss army knife of a wifi gizmo? Thanks
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
I'm not a fan of full automation as it's usually more effort to setup/refine than simply tapping a few buttons. On the rooted host I set up a toggle shortcut to enable/disable the BT tether. I leave BT and WiFi radios permanently enabled on the E4 which happily connects to whatever is available. Hop in the car, tap the BT toggle and plop the host into a magnetic holster. The rest is standard navigation tasks performed on the E4 which behaves like a normal Android device. It goes into a separate magnetic holster that accommodates whatever navigator I choose to use. 85% of the time that's a dedicated Garmin unit w/voice recognition that provides superior guidance and a better presentation than any Android navigator. However, there are times where I need more sophisticated routing that is traffic/road condition aware, especially in rapidly changing situations. Google is also better at accurately finding matching destinations to sloppy spoken commands, eg: "find a Dunkin Donuts that's open within 2 miles of my current location". My trusty Garmin would soil its shots with such a request. Boils down to using the right tool for the task.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
I run a similar setup on my motorcycle. I currently use my old Galaxy S6, but was a Moto E 2015 before that. Device on bike fairing has WiFi and BT on all the time, and is connected to bike audio. Turn on WiFi hotspot on my edc phone, and plug it in and it rides in the saddle bag, providing data to the dash mount device.

No calls or messages to bug me while riding, and phone is set up with quick access to nav, music and weather radar.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Excellent! Minor footnote: I found BT tethering consumes about half the juice of the WiFi equivalent on the sending side; bit less on the receiving end as well. Devices are both Motos; YMMV with other hardware.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] dandrumheller:
Thanks for the tip - not sure I can do BT that way though, since the target is already BT connected to the bike audio and a tuner on the bike. Will look into it though
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] jlink38:
Highly doubt that person was telling the truth. That would be the first time in the history of non-iPhone cellular phones that a SIM lock appeared because of a software update.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] kirito9:
Hey, would anyone be willing to try this from the Pixel XL Verizon variant. They were in the same position as us.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
You still can't get an unlock code from Motorola. It's different from a pixel. You can't just type oem unlock, even if it's not a Verizon model,, you need an unlock code. That's Motorola's bootloader on the Qualcomm version.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] kirito9:
Ahh, that sucks.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
I know. The mediatek version is like the pixel, fastboot oem unlock. But the Qualcomm is different. That would have been a good find though.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] kirito9:
Indeed it would've been, if it wasn't for the code that needs to be recognized by the device to unlock. We could've had something. I will probably get another device soon.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DragonFire1024:
This phone, even if it were rooted, ranks among the worst ones I ever bought.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] kirito9:
Hmm, why is that?

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Check this out guys... https://www.xda-developers.com/virtualxposed-xposed-modules-without-root/...
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DragonFire1024:
Not a fan of nougat nor Verizon's phones. I just need it so every three months I can make sure my Google number stays active.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] kirito9:
Ahhh I see. I'm actually liking nougat over Oreo, the per app based blocking of unknown sources gets to me.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Really! I own both a XT1767 and XT1768. The latter (unlocked/rooted) serves as my daily driver and is fine for what I ask of it. XT1767 was a steal at $40. Never activated; use as a WiFi only gizmo for a wide variety of tasks. Both are responsive, bright and have reasonable battery endurance. Reliable finger print scanner, removable battery, 2GB RAM. Are there better phones? You bet cha!! Are there better 'value' phones with similar features at current price points. Not so sure; probably depends on personal preference.

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Not sure I understand the "need". I have numerous Google Voice numbers that have been active for many years with no physical handset engagement. What am I missing?

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Yep - interesting project. Only supports relatively simple modules at present and is somewhat unstable. Still, nice to see someone pull this off.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DragonFire1024:
I'm not too fond of nougat really. Though it is a fast phone and has great WiFi reception. I'm going to fix my XT907 soon enough. This phone replaced that phone for everyday use because the charging port failed and just my luck, in the middle of flashing. So it's forever stuck in fastboot until I can fix it.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Boils down to personal preference. XT907/XT1767 aren't on the same playing field. Not even close. People tend to like what they used for years. Ran with a XT1030 long past its prime; still have it around as a fall back. lol.

As for Nougat - makes no sense. Andriod 7 is clearly a refinement over 6 (which was far superior to 5) without the complexities introduced w/Oreo. Lots of KitKat fans still hanging around long after band stopped playing. Yea- I have it on a couple shelf gizmos too. Nice OS for its time. Life moves forward ...
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DragonFire1024:
I love lollipop. Marshmallow is alright. I guess my peeve is the constant need to manually grant permissions in 6.0+. I could never get used to it. KitKat will always by my favorite. Though what makes my XT907 more valuable for being such an old device, it's bootoader is unlocked. it also happens to be the first device I ever rooted lol. Nostalgia.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] madbat99:
I still have one of my froyo devices to look at now and then, lol. Talking old.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] abense:
Is there a way to boot this device up into regular Android OS, WITHOUT having to purchase a Verizon prepaid sim card?

I understand that the bootloader won't ever be unlocked. I'm not asking about that. This thing has sat on a shelf for 8 months now.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] DB126:
Not sure what you mean by "regular Android OS". Device boots fine w/o a SIM and can be used as a WiFi only gizmo. Some early XT1767's were eligible for 3rd party SIM unlocks; check ebay for availability. Highly unlikely a custom ROM can ever be used/loaded with this E4 variant.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] isaacharp02:
I have a Verizon Moto e4 prepaid phone and my sister is wanting to add me to her at&t bundle. Will this phone work with at&t? I do not want to buy another phone!
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] mn1968:
If it is already sim-unlocked, or is eligible for sim-unlocking either through an eBay dealer or Verizon (if you've meet their terms for unlocking), then yes, it will work on AT&T. I used mine without problems on Tracfone AT&T.
[Moto E4 Questions & Answers] iamraikamran:
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