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[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Alphaelectric:
Not working under 2.9 anymore

So this morning on my drive to work I wanted to switch to ODB only to find it not working. I last used it yesterday.

Thought this was strange since I downgraded Android Auto to 2.9 in order to circumvent the blocking issues and had flawless operation since March 27th.

Checked the ODB2LX adapter, checked Torque, all were fine. Still, no ODB in AA.

Rebooted the phone (you never know).

Still nothing.

Is this a new stunt by google or am I missing something?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Gunde:
Google blocked it completely.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Alphaelectric:
No kidding. And this happens outside the main AA application? I am amazed they put so much effort in blocking such a harmless application. Yet all kinds of adware infested nonsense can pile high and deep in play store. Talking about priorities...
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Isn't any way to have it working again in rooted phone? If we have got backup with titanium of play services and reinstall them and cut internet? Or another way.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jb.traveller:
All those that it has stopped working on 2.9 would it be possible to give Emil details on their system. Saying it don't work doesn't really help.

PS It's still working for me on AA 2.9
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] alberisca75:
Hi, I use this wonderful App on my Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid. I'm left with AA 2.9 but I would need to reset my OnePlus 3T, is there the way to get the apk via email?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Kingcraft:
I have one question. Since it is possible to emulate a Headunit on an Android Tablet, would it also be possible to replace the Android Auto App on the phone and make it work with a real Headunit?

Something like kicking Android Auto and Google with all his restrictions in the xxx and make your own alternative Android Auto app. Maybe only for one purpose, like displaying OBD2 data, or even a multi-purpose one for navigation, audio, phone, OBD2, etc., just like it would be, if Google would not be so stubborn and stupid.

I am not an Android Auto developer, so sorry in advance, if this is not possible because of any obvious technical reason. ;)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
Hi guys.

Sorry to read that it stopped working on 2.9 as well. Last week, this week and next week I'm more than busy and I have no time to write any code. Probably you won't see me too much on the forum either due to lack of time, if you need anything send me an email and I will reply as soon as I can. Once I clear of my table a bit, I will carry on with working on the fix (there will be one, for sure!!!)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] fma965:
Well they are covering their ass, should someone crash when using carstream or similiar they would be sued, they are probably covered legally but it's just cleanup to prevent it ever even getting to that stage.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Alphaelectric:
No problem, hope it helps:

Hardware

Sony XAV-AX100 Radio

Samsung Galaxy S6 Dual Sim (SM-G920F)

Software

Android Auto Version 2.9.574924-release (the one linked here somewhere)

Play Store Version 9.4.18-all [0] [PR] 190562443

Google Version 7.24.32.21.arm64

Google Play Services for Inst.. 2.20-release-190768232

Google Play Services Version 12.5.21 (040400-189987672)

Firmware

Android 7.0 (No Branding)

Kernel 3.10.61-10940776

Build NRD90M.G920FXXS5ERB6

Patch Level February 1st, 2018
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
Just a note on this one, I'm intending to make the fix only ever work if the only 3rd party app installed on the phone is obd2aa, in other words I'm probably going to follow Google on this one, hoping that will pacify them and leave us alone with the blocking.

Sorry if that is a disappointment for users of other 3rd party apps.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Goon818:
I hope this works.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] froader:
Updating the thread that the downgrade AA 2.9 no longer allows OBD2AA for me either. Went to a 1:30pm appointment where it worked on the way there, but the drive home around 3pm it was no longer working. No play store apps updated either...

Hopefully Emil will will have some success for all including himself and understandably if there is no way forward.

Best all!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] fbike:
[MENTION=842765]Emil Borconi[/MENTION]

Here are my infos :

ps 9.4.18-all [0][PR] 190562443

chrome 65.0.3325.109

google : 7.24.32.21.arm64*

Play 4.2.6.13 [FR] [FR]

android 7.0.0; SM-G935F build/NDR90M

AA 2.9.574924-release.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jb.traveller:
And for me, will post details when I get a few minutes.

---------- Post added at 01:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:08 PM ----------

Samsung s7 G930FXX52DRC3

Google Services framework 7.0.3037786

Google Play services 12.2.12

AA 2.9.574923

Five overnight updates.

Instagram

Google pay 7.24.32.21 arm 64

Google photos

Google "Maybe this caused it"

Facebook
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] sbreit:
Stupid question: What about the Android Auto app? I don't have an Android Auto headunit but still use Android Auto a lot on my phone. Torque integration would be cool....
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Goon818:
Sorry, the app was/is for headunits only.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] fma965:
https://xdaforums.com/general/paid-software/android-4-1-headunit-reloaded-android-t3432348

To clarify i would assume you mean 3rd party Android Auto applications not any 3rd party application ;)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ShannonPricePhoto:
Mine went down this morning, it worked last night (4\4\2018). I had auto update off. So dumb.

Looking at just doing Android head unit.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Scott030871:
Mine stopped working today

It was working fine last night 04/04/18 as I was viewing and logging Torque Pro data via my Samsung 6 Edge phone connected to the Ford Sync3 screen/system.

But on the way to work 05/04/18 all my Non-Google apps had vanished from the Sync 3 AA Auto App, in the same way they had when I upgraded to AA V3.1 a few weeks back.

I tried the AA Patch/root things and it did'nt improve, so I reverted back to AA V2.9.574924 a couple of weeks ago and everything came back.

I have been running OBD2AA, CarStream and AA mirror (to Mirror the Torque Pro Screen onto the Sync 3) successfully.

But as said above it stopped working today.

I have un-installed and re-installed AA V2.9.574924 , Carplay, AA Mirror and nothing has returned.

A quick look on here and it looks like I'm not alone.

Not sure why it changed overnight because all I've done is turn my phone off and on again this morning. Auto updates are off as far as I know, so it must of been via some back door.

I do hope this can be recovered because it makes the Android Auto function useful instead of just providing Google Maps (which is pretty pointless as Sync 3 has it's own SatNav)

---------- Post added at 07:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:25 PM ----------

It would appear that Google Pushed a security patch out via Google Play Store which updates automatically despite you setting auto updates to off. It seems to of effected all 3rd party apps in Android Auto.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] sbreit:
I don't get it. :confused:
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] fma965:
Headunit reloaded is a application that allows you to emulate a android auto device on a tablet or something, it also has a self mode which when launched runs the full car interface on the phone itself. this is the only way you will get OBD2AA working on your phone directly.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] sbreit:
OK, cool. That sounds like it was worth a second look for another use case. However, it's unfortunately kind of the opposite of what I'm looking for right now. :(

Thanks for the link! :o
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] fma965:
It's made by the same dev as OBD2AA also there is no possible way OBD2AA can work on the phone directly as only official AA apps work on the phone interface.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] FormelLMS:
Thankfully the speed camera and day/night toggles are working.

Hopefully we get the other sorted

[MENTION=842765]Emil Borconi[/MENTION]e
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] elfeo:
at the moment it works for me in AA 2.9, updates disabled and S google play 12.5
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] niewiederfrei:
installed from scratch

Hi,

i have a spare Galaxy S3 and installed custom rom android 6.0.1 with gapps and manually done AA2.9 and google play services 12.2.21 and maps and play music.

Never connected to the internet. Tested and works fine. So it will blocked via an update from google.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jb.traveller:
I thought about a spare phone but I use Waze and as soon as it connects to the web for the maps I am sure they will kill it.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] niewiederfrei:
If your phone is rouuted you can use a firewall and block all traffic exept waze.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] psbankar:
Hey OP. You mentioned that you are developing a crack which will work only if your app is the only third party app present. Instead of that, can you create a whitelist from your side so that only the apps approved by you will work? Because there is one more third party app called AnyAutoAudio which i think isn't illegal to use on android auto but isn't working because of the block.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] YellaFella:
developer options

TL: DR

Have those who had it disabled tried going into developer mode and enabling "unkown sources"? This worked for me on another app but I'm on AA 3.1 . I also switched to "release" as type so not sure if that had any affect. I went back a couple of pages but not many so maybe this was mentioned already.

edit - developer options in the AA app, not developer options for the phone...Not sure if previous versions had this as I've never had an issue before the latest update with my apps.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DeanGibson:
If you have a spare Android device (phone or tablet), why not just run Torque directly???
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jb.traveller:
Mainly in my car it's finding a mounting place and the display size. What OBD2AA gave was a large display that can be switched between with a finger touch.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] :
Exactly how to do this?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] elfeo:
Emil a question please

It is possible that you can develop a patch to translate OBD2AA in Spanish thanks
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] :
It doesn't need a patch. It needs someone to translate the English words to Spanish.

But probably right now he is in a much higher priority to find a patch for working to everyone, than to translate..

(If you or anyone else speaking Spanish and English, willing to make the translation, post it here. He will probably send you the file to translate it in some time. He will update it supporting Spanish then).
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Framingr:
Not quite sure where you found this setting in the app itself. I know it's something you can set at a device level
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] YellaFella:
I think I'm too new to post links(I've been a lurker forever though lol) and again, this is android auto 3.1 as I never had a problem with another app prior so I never looked before. The below should get you there though if you have the newest version of AA..

Launch the Android Auto application on your smartphone

Tap on the hamburger menu icon in the top left corner

Select the About option

Tap repeatedly on the About Android Auto portion of the heading until a pop-up states that Developer settings is enabled (This is the header of at the top and not an actual button)

To locate the Developer settings, select the multi-dot menu button in the top right corner

Tap on Developer settings
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
I see and it's a valid point, so I will consider it, although AnyAutoAudio should work, since the app is a media app and only 3rd party (called OEM apps in AA world) are blocked.

Finally I was able to sit down in front of a PC today, it will be a few more days till I catch up with all my work, I strongly hope I will be able to continue working on this next week....
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
It's possible that the MAX RPM was reported wrongly on the setup, try doing a data clear on the OBD2AA app and set it up from scratch.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] chenks:
reported wrong from torque?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
Yes sometimes it reports 100 as max for all gauges... not sure exactly why. it happened to me as well on one occasion.

Might have something to do with not being connected to the ECU, try doing the initial setup when you are connected to the car.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] MostoX:
[MENTION=842765]Emil Borconi[/MENTION] Would you mind telling me how you got your app to list under the 5th tab? I'd like to make an android auto app too that's not media or messages related...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions...2813321?noredirect=1#comment78128729_42813321
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] PRP98svt:
Boost seems to be reported in PSI no matter what unit settings are chosen in Torque. In my case, "Use psi" is deselected in the units setting, but the gauge in Android Auto using OBD2AA still shows psi instead of bar. The corresponding gauge in Torque shows bar correctly.

OBD2AA was set up from scratch while connected to Android Auto to ensure that all values from Torque are transferred correctly. Unfortunately PSI is persistent, cannot make the gauge to display the turbo boost pressure in bar.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
I'll add it to the list.

I was more than busy in the last few days so I had no time for this, but my schedule looks much better for this week so I will be getting all this small things in the snagging list sorted.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] cvondra:
Any chance of using this app with OBD Link in the future? Tired of Torque throwing CELs all the time and the OBD Link LX BT adapter powers down on its own so as to not drain your battery.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
Not aware of any plugin for OBD Link, if there is a plugin for it I can look into it.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] cvondra:
http://www.obdlink.com/developers/
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
Yeap basically it's a guide on how to communicate with the adapter directly. I did considered the route, but since Torque is much more widespread and it has a larger support for all kind of adapters, so I considered it much more appropriate to use the plugin provided by Torque rather than trying to reinvent the wheel on my own.

By the way Torque should work with the OBD Link adaptors as well.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] cvondra:
It will but its Torque itself that causes the CEL's
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
Sorry but I'm not sure what CEL's stand for in this case.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] adfurgerson:
CEL=Check Engine Light
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] MisterEff:
My coolant and oil temperature gauges show maxed out in android auto and only report the number 60. I'm not too sure why since torque tells me it's ~195F for both. I set it up while connected to Android auto.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
I'm working on the next version so I will try to get all this reported issues sorted.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] astobelix:
Hello i got a citroen C4 II , must i buy an OBD2 bluetooth adaptor before using it ? have you got a link for buy ?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
Hi.

Yes you need an OBD2 adapter, it can be a bluetooth or a Wifi one it's up to you or even a USB one.

Where are you based?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] astobelix:
Hello ! i'm from France !
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
https://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_sb_n...ÅŽÕÑ&url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=obd2

Stay away from the very cheap ones (like 3 euro or so) but you don't need the super expensive ones either.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mabadse:
Hello, OBD2AA is already translated into spanish, I did it months ago with Emil.

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[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] magykmaster:
The app doesn't seem to be working at all for me. I have the alpha of HUR, but launching OBDII for AA (in my car) just sends me back to the AA home screen. Upon exiting AA, the phone displays a dialog that OBDII for AA crashed.

Is this a known bug?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
Not really.

Can you produce a bug report please?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] elfeo:
You're right, I mean the Select PID

thank Mabadse
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mabadse:
Hi, you can add your own car Pids file in Torque, copy in the extended-pids folder.

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[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] magykmaster:
Just sent an email, thanks for your help!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Yamarocket630:
I get that. Are you still planning to make a YouTube app that will work when the car is stopped? I used the"other"app a few times to watch YouTube videos while parked and it was rather nice to see them on a bigger screen and not have to hold my phone.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] elfeo:
Thank you mabadse

buffff but I do not know how to do that, some idea
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mabadse:
What model of car do you have and engine?

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[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jeromeo01:
Because you need to mount it somewhere... plug it to power... extra risk to breaking in to steal it... I can keep going with reasons of why integrating with car stereo make more sense...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DeanGibson:
Agreed, but someone (you?) wondered if they could use a spare phone. My point was, if you are already going to use a spare phone (wherever you want to mount it), then why not use Torque?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] elfeo:
Ford C-Max 1.6 tdci year 2015
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jeromeo01:
I got your point and it’s already what I have been doing, but it’s not really convenient. I like the idea of just plugging my phone with everything on it.

I already have some info on my unit not just enough info.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] froader:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...gs-googles-infotainment-system-still-missing/

Missing exactly what OBD2 provides!!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] dingbat75:
God damn Google blocking this app...almost becoming Applesque in the way they want you to use their OS.

I patiently await you fix super OP :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jeromeo01:
I don’t get it. We already have this sort of screen in the car.

So google should banned our head unit to.

I only want more option.... [emoji35]
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jb.traveller:
[MENTION=9084669]jeromeo01[/MENTION] Not all of us have that display on our Factory built in units, so that is why for us it's so useful for AA to display extra info. OBD2AA plugin has to come back, Google please, just do it.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jeromeo01:
Yes I know but this display is very limited. It’s why I like to use torque.

My point was that it’s already accepted to have this type of display in some cars, so why we cannot use torque? Make no sense to me no difference.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mic18u:
Because obd2aa got caught up in the issue with people making YouTube apps for AA, until Google changes policies nothing can be done..
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] 1seniorgeek:
Where is the APK file now? I can't seem to find it anymore
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ZenOleander:
Hi Emil, thx for all the hard work making such a great app. I had a 2016 Ford Fiesta ST and an S8 Samsung phone and had your app working flawlessly. I have since Updated my 2016 FiST to a 2017 and my S8 to and S8+. Now I cant get the app running again. I have followed all of the instructions. the only thing I cant seem to do is patch your app. It keeps telling me the app is not installed on my phone. It is... I have Sync 3 3.0, AA, Torque, and an ELM 327 BT. I dont know what else to tell you accept I cant get the OBD2 AA to come up in my AA tab, Help!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Hsu8116:
I keep using it

hey guys

I keep using it.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jb.traveller:
If you go back to post 1447 and then read from there you will understand.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
Hi guys.

I have spent some time the last few days with the app, but sadly I haven't got as far as I wanted. Being away from home I do not have all my tools with me either, so debugging is much more inconvenient than from the comfort of my home. Next week I have 2 final exams, and next Sunday (29th) I'm finally hitting the road to return to the UK (3 days journey). Therefore I will (again) have no choice but to freeze development till I'm not back home. I'm not too far away from the solution, but more work is needed.

Sorry for the letdown and for keeping you waiting.

By the way Google went 100% radio silent on this issue and never actually answered my complain/email.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Sven0xda:
Thanks for the update; now put this aside & concentrate on your exams!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Oki:
I could get another AA banned app partially working under the AA Audio icon by installing it as a Play Store app under the current AA v 3.1.581054. All you have to do is:

1. Uninstall the app

2. Place the apk file in a know folder

3. Open an ADB shell or use a terminal app such as Material Terminal.

4. in the shell, type:

su
pm install -i "com.android.vending" -r /sdcard/path/to/oodb2aa.apk

5. Reboot your phone and test it.

I can't test this solution with ODB2AA because I just got my ODB2 interface and Torque Pro and when I found this add-on it was already not working. Since the git is now opensource (not the original APK), can you please PM me the code already built? I would like to test several workarounds, such as downgrade to AA and Google Play Services to a previous configuration, renaming the app, etc... but I can't test an apk without the apk. Should it be a problem then I will try to build it myself.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Emil Borconi:
Please do not post about carstream here it's one of the main reasons Google has took the radical step to block 3rd party apps and Im very much against video playback in a moving car.

The reason you were able to get that app partially working is because it also declare itself as a media app and Android Auto uses separate validation for media app and separate one for the OEM category, all 3rd party apps which displays anything in the screen are OEM ones from AA point of view. Media apps will work, OEM ones are blocked.

Changes I'm going to make in the code to overcome the blocking will not be released on GitHub, other than that GitHub version is up to date and it's a working one (on AA 2.9 or below with an outdated Google play services)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] java77:
How it works

Do you know how the verification works? Couldn't we just pretend that this app is an other official app like waze, and use it instead of waze?