yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] UniX1rm:
Just pre ordered now changed my mind from not ordering. I paid for 5 days shipping couldn't get anything waived.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] RaymondPJR:
Woah, that's what they're trying to get for a SIM card now!!! I've got two just sitting around from last years debacle!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] slickdaddy96:
Glad to see I am not the only one that had issues with their V20 as far as bluetooth and wifi. I think the radios are weaker in them as well, so I get less signal and thus slower internet. Less than a year in and this thing pauses and stutters all the time. If it had been even remotely as good as the Note 7, I probably would have waited one more year to upgrade, but I can't handle this phone anymore. I took advantage of the Note 7 offer through Samsung direct since I had two Note 7's. So hopefully my misery of the V20 will be done soon.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] athex:
Good point on the selling of the unlocked phones, only thing you lose out is on the promos when you jump but those have been getting less and less. The one thing that samsung has over me is samsung pay, been using it all the time and love it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] Dvanzutphenkann:
Usually i get movement on all ups packages between 430 and 5 am, I'm not that obsessed LoL I get home at 5 am most nights so I have to check before bed right?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] bigmase01:
You paid for 5 day shipping???? Didn't know there was such a thing....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] arcanexvi:
Ground has a max time of 5 days iirc.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] UniX1rm:
They got 3 options. 7 days shipping, 5 day express, and 2nd day (which is like the over night)

one is like 7 bucks and the other is like 15 and the overnight is 26
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] Daveevo:
I was told my shipping was standard ground and they said 5 to 7 days but on my tracking page it A 3 day select. I was also able to get the shipping free of charge I just questioned the shipping charges because the last 3 phones I pre ordered I got free 2 day shipping. But I guess I read a post earlier on here they are doing away with that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] athex:
I wish tmobile would stop taunting me with emails 2x a day with different status updates. Today it was the updated lease in the morning and payment charge notice just now.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] ejdavis:
Me too!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] blacklabel2020:
I ordered my Note 8 on 8/24 but I’m not seeing it under order status. But T-Mobile says that they see it on their end.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] SuperMarioTM:
Pre-Ordered yesterday on T-mobile Austria(online).

Delivery Date will be the 14th and includes Dex.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] BigMosley:
I'm telling you, it's bad. I'm currently sitting in my 2016 F150 and my V20 is about 1 foot away from the console and every 20 seconds or so it skips as if the phone is 30 feet away and about to loose connection. It's pretty embarrassing the only way to make it skip free is plugging the phone in and using Android Auto. I will never buy another LG phone, I am selling this V20 for $200 as soon as my Note 8 arrives.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] Dark_shadow70:
So, who's keeping an eye on the UPS planes for us? :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] advocate2:
I was in Sam's club early yesterday and the Telephone sales rep was there. I asked if they were going to carry the Note 8. She pulls out a box, opens it, and there was the Note 8. She let me play with it and told me she had been playing with it a lot herself.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] Demonface.24:
if she wasn't playing with I think there would have been a problem.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] homegeek:
I checked my status on T-Mobile this morning and it went from Shipped back to Processing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] misterwal10:
Oh boy, we doing that again. Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] marctronixx:
I see that too. But the track number is still showing active on the tracking couriers site.

Also when i click on the link to open up more about the status of their order, i get an error saying "please allow 48 hours for your order to show up..." message.

Lol and yeah I got all those "updated" emails too.. :fingers-crossed::silly:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
Mine as well. Never thought I'd see an order move backwards in process lmao!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] kevin.hannaway.92:
My friend who has Verizon just told me his shipped and he will get it tues the 5th.... So I head over to the Verizon side of this thread and saw that 2 ppl already post that there's shipped as well.... Come on tmobile... Where is my phone lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] and1shocka:
It's because they are waiting for the phones at the warehouse.

Only the shipping labels have been printed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] kaze00:
What's the deal with the BOGO, I can't find a terms page and their details just says "add a qualifying line", what's a qualifying line.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
It's kinda a contradiction though he said shipping labels were printed hence we have tracking info... Then he says once they come in we will be given our tracking info lmao.. I don't trust that statement so much haha.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] msage:
Eh, for the most part the reps take stabs in the dark. In an earlier page here a couple days ago, a different rep claimed they had just gotten them into the warehouse and this triggered the texts about the orders being packed and preparing for shipment.

I'm sure the phones are in the warehouse because Tmo has already given people their IMEIs and equipment updates so they must have them in hand.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
Right they had to have scanned the phones IMEI barcode on the box to connect the IMEI to our lines of service. They have them the order system is probably down atm.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] marctronixx:
Exactly. Ive already registered the note8 because I have the imei so they are in the warehouse...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] kevin.hannaway.92:
My friend from Verizon is teasing me... Status changed to pickup
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
Ouch haha I bet T-Mobile ships them tonight to be on par with Verizon!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] kevin.hannaway.92:
Could only hope so lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
If they did tonight Tuesday would be our delivery date as well!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] allklrnoflr:
We will see if this delays anything, I ordered direct from Samsung and I think they use Fedex to.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
T-Mobile is using UPS so I don't think so!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] KittyTeapots:
Preordered on 25th originally. Because of them putting wrong shipping. Had to cancel and reorder on the 30th [emoji35]. Just got the text yesterday with info stating to be looking out for the charge. Got charged this Morning!!! Getting super excited! I hope they ship sooner than later unlike the wait for the note 7. No IMEI update yet though.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] marctronixx:
Interesting there is only 1 or 2 cats who see shipping notices, out of the thousands of peeps that ordered. I know not everyone who ordered the phone is on this forum, but theres a lot more than 2 people.. perhaps other people have the ship notice from fedex but are away from the forum at the moment.

Would be nice to get the note this soon.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
I never got a notice from T-Mobile but it shows shipped on my order and myUPS has my tracking there showing its waiting for it from T-Mobile.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] and1shocka:
My order just went back to showing shipped again. Hopefully they have the phones in the warehouse now and they ship them tonight or some time this weekend to get them by Tuesday also like Verizon.

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Those shipping notices from FedEx were for Verizon customers.

Supposedly Verizon has already shipped the phones. T-Mobile uses UPS to ship their devices.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] Xshooter726:
Dang I guess Verizon beat them to the punch. Hopefully we see movement today.

and now it looks like Sprint pre orders are on the way also....

Come on T-Mobile!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] kaze00:
Trying to figure out if the bogo deal is worth switching plans? I get reimbursed for my phone line so how it gets broken up is important, anyone know of an example or is willing to share the front page of their bill summary for a tmobile one plan?

edit:

nevermind, just realized that no matter how they bill me, changing to this plan is going to cost me more money. Don't fall for t-mobile rep tricks, I asked what's the difference in price to switch, they ignored my tablet line and the fact that part of my bill is an EIP and told me I'd be saving $10 if I switched to tmobile one.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] OxyClean:
Yea. Those Verizon shipping threads are encouraging. [emoji7]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] MicroMod777:
Dam T-Mobile! Sprint and Verizon delivering preorders Tuesday while were screwed!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] BigMosley:
Be lucky you have anything regarding shipping, Samsung orders are still nothing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] kurrupt_1:
I remember when TMO jumped the gun and shipped before Samsung wanted them to. Wouldn't mind that happening again.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] harveydent:
To add to the FOMO, I was looking at iphones at the Straight Talk website and came across their listing for the Note 8. It says ships by 9/5/2017 on the listing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] Camwise:
So I called and did my JOD preorder on 8/24. Lady I worked with didn't give me different shipping options, so I assumed it was next day air saver like all of the last phones we've got. Well found out when I got my shipping label notice that it is 3 day select from UPS. I called TMO last night to complain and get faster shipping. Lady told me the phone is set to ship on 9/4 and should be to me by 9/7. Kept telling her the phone doesn't come out till the 15th, but she kept insisting I'd have it by 9/7. I don't believe her still, but here's to hoping :P.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] pbelcomp:
Just a reminder, T-Mobile is able to ship Sunday night and still have them to us on Monday. (Tuesday because of the holiday.)

I think it was my GS7 that they did that on.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] athex:
Clearly they have the phones and are ready to ship, wish they would just get them on the boats and get them to us already. It would make up for the extra shipping charge this time around
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] MicroMod777:
Im tired of all the BS of T-mobile. Wish Verizon had JOD.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] BlueFox721:
Verizon has their own issues, that's why I swapped to Sprint...Sprint has their issues also, that's why I'm looking to swap to T-mobile...In the end I might just make my own telecommunications company...not really...lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] tourbound129:
I'm no fan of BGR but it seems Verizon has confirmed that they are shipping Note 8s with arrivals starting Tuesday.

http://bgr.com/2017/09/01/galaxy-note-8-preorder-verizon-shipping-already/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] fsunoles101:
Just ordered my Note 8 through T-Mobile and the gentleman on the phone waived my shipping fees and said that he put in for expedited 2 day shipping. I asked would it be delivered by the 14 or 15. He said neither. Then he asked how did the 5th sound. I said great. He said ok. Should see it next Tuesday. I Don't believe him for one minute. Been down this road before. But none the less. It gets here when it gets here. He also threw in the otter box defender case with a screen protector. Have yet to get a text or email on anything verified. Just got a kick out of how confident he was in assuring me it would arrive next Tuesday.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] homegeek:
Well T-Mobile has changed my order status back to Shipped but UPS is still not showing they received the package yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] Steve Lazarus:
Wouldn't sweat the small stuff (shiny new toy syndrome aside :D ), wasn't expecting to have one in my hand until "Right Around" the 15th. Think we'll see them Tues/Wed and beyond depending on shipping used/location etc. Anything prior too that date is gravy ... :good:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] tourbound129:
May not get an origin scan from UPS until Sunday or Monday.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] advocate2:
Sammy hit my charge card just now

I ordered the TMO black on the 25th with the Note 7 trade in deal. I take this as a good sign.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] KittyTeapots:
Mines is now currently showing shipped on site. Now to see if UPS really has them and will release them this weekend to start arriving early next week.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
I asked T-Mobile on Twitter about the 5th and it was both reassuring and vauge and even a little creepy.... I have never had a message with so many ";)" in it..... lmao

Me: Any news on the 5th?

Them: I know you're excited ? I am too. They may come out soon ? if you ordered right away. ? be on the look out I'm the next few days ??.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] kevin.hannaway.92:
Very vague I see they are trained well.... A few days could be 7+ days [emoji12][emoji12][emoji12]

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My friend phone from Verizon is moving already
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
That Verizon one is making me cry lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] HtcOnekid:
they will start going out tonight Guaranteed
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] kevin.hannaway.92:
I hope so.... Even by Saturday ill be happy
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
We wouldn't see movement untill Tuesday cause nothing updates on the weekend and nothing will show movement Monday either.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] chipworkz:
Man I have been out of the game since I turned in my Note 7. Life has just been too busy and still is but came back to check things out and still see some familiar faces. My V20 has been fine but I really miss my Samsung. I guess I will be pulling the trigger here shortly along with everyone else. :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] calming:
Tmobile rep told me that only Midnight Black and Orchid Grey will be available for preorder. Anyone else heard this?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] Hugg727:
At launch in the US, yes.

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Annnnnd pre order is in. Here we go again!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] matt.b.powell:
I just tried to call and pre-order on JOD... apparently I can't over the phone? Sounded like BS trying again in 10 minutes.

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Update: Called back in and amazingly I could order...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] jayr04:
AKAIK you can't JOD online.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] cwmurphy1993:
So I just got off the phone with 611, I thought the preorders were opening at 9:01PM ET. The guy kept saying he preordered it, but then again I think he just pre-registered my email [emoji23]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] matt.b.powell:
You can't... but he tried to say you could.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] pbelcomp:
Ordered online: Samsung Galaxy Note8 - Orchid Gray - 64GB

What's with the $24.99 for overnight shipping?

They better credit that back.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] bigmase01:
How much did you pay upfront? Down payment? Taxes?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] pbelcomp:
$313.78
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] marctronixx:
can you break down the costs?

did you use eip or jump? online i can use eip and pay

Down payment $210.00

Shipping$24.99

Taxes and fees$86.03

or if i want to jump on demand i have to call yes?

and are the late night reps good at this jod program or should i wait until the morning hours?

and do they charge your card right away or when it ships? i can understand a pre authorization...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] pbelcomp:
I did jump on demand online and my tax was $78.79.

I am returning my S8+.

I have no idea about the different JOD they have now, I think mine is an older JOD but I can't tell anymore.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] matt.b.powell:
Nothing was charged to my account, but with JOD it will be $7 shipping cost when the device ships, otherwise no costs. The second rep I got was very helpful and great. First rep was an idiot and said I had to do it online or in the store... To his benefit I called at 9:59:59 and got in within a minute.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] marctronixx:
cool bro. im calling these cats now and im on hold.. im thinking of starting the jump on demand program....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] chavist:
Just ordered a Black Note 8 using JOD no down payment;$7.00 shipping; $39.00 a month. Actually seems cheaper than the Note 7 pre-order and more organized.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] Futant:
24.99 for overnight shipping is heart breaking.

Still gonna do it though...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] pinkie00200:
I wonder why everybody are paying for the shipping, it supposed to be free overnight shipping for any pre-order device!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] jayr04:
Ordered black

JOD

0 upfront

free expedited shipping
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] Futant:
Free shipping does not seem like an option :(
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] cwmurphy1993:
I've talked to 611 twice, and they apparently do not know what they are doing because they told me to do my JOD upgrade online. JOD is on the phone and in stores only... So I may not be preordering this tonight after all
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] tourbound129:
The UPS hub in Louisville runs 24/7. There will be stuff moving all weekend. Origin scans for phones could happen as late as 2 or 3am on Tuesday morning and still be delivered anywhere in the lower 48 on Tuesday.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
I know everything moves just saying don't expect to see any status update till then :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] Xshooter726:
Think your right. For my Galaxy s8+ it started moving between 12-1am. So I think we still have a chance for today.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] marctronixx:
yes i know tmo uses ups.

what i meant in my post was , at the time of my post, there were only like 1 or 2 VERIZON uses who posted their devices shipped. i should have made that more clear. my apologies.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
They may move but UPS does not update tracking on weekends and holidays so don't expect to see an origin scan tonight.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] MicroMod777:
I can confirm Verizon has shipped their Note 8's today with free overnight shipping with delivery for Tuesday the 5th per my work colleague. I saw his tracking info.

At first he was bummed out that I told him I got my tracking info earlier this week. Then when T-Mobile fooled us and didn't ship ours out my joy turned into horror!!! Thanks alot T-Mobile.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] blacklabel2020:
What does Partially PreOrder mean?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] tkmcguire1:
Has anyone who ordered through Samsung seen any movement? I ordered through them to get the note 7 deal and it still says pre order
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] zonly1:
Yes, mine now says confirmed. Happened about an hour ago.

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3664065
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] billinaz:
VZW definitely shipped....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] marctronixx:
just a step in the process. it will change from pre order to shipped. many of us saw that earlier in this thread.

there is a thread specific to samsung. best to answer there.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
I'm crying atm
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] matt.b.powell:
My brother's sprint order is also moving....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
Big thanks to T-Mobile for leaving us in the dust of the other carriers.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] matt.b.powell:
I guess they're still continuing to be an "Un-carrier"... not like the rest of the idiots out there and that duopoly of jack asses... or whatever John is always going on about.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
I just sent them a message on Twitter again I'll see what they say Lol!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] tnick84:
I believe they will get origin scan Monday night/ early Tuesday morning...the ppl who got next day air saver shipping will have them in hand on Tuesday. I'm just happy that they are shipping super early...unlike the Note 7 and S8/S8+ preorders which shipped only one day before launch. Samsung wants us to get them early this go around...one, to help offset last year's debacle and two the iPhone 8 launch is fast approaching...the sooner we get them the sooner the buyers remorse window closes...samsung doesn't want ppl returning the Note 8 in exchange for an iPhone. Almost all of us will have them by Wed next week at the latest....thatll mean 15 days until iPhone launch...one day passed the return window. Everyone stop stressin! Notice that most of this threads veteran preorder folks have not been commenting much because this preorder has progressed a lot faster than in the past. That my 2 cents...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] MicroMod777:
Your probably right! Its gonna be long, slow, 3 day weekend! I bet even time will slow down. LOL
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Dis] galaxy4mylife:
Well must be off going on a road trip in a few hours I'll see you all Tuesday morning when we see we haven't moved at all. Haha

Also in a heated debate with tmo on Twitter haha. My snarky side is out in full force atm. Literally told the lady that Verizon and Sprint have shipped she said that it's impossible and any tracking is fake....

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