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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
hmm I tried Faria / Dr Puttingham WM6.1 Collaboration rom and mmslite does not work. Anybody else got it going? Same problems as usual: mail disappears, mms1 does not appear, etc.

Same for Pays latest as well, btw. Sigh. I am trying the latest storm one now... before going back to K's 1.30. I might wait until his 6.1 before re-flashing...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
But

So we have to different results from the same ROM?! Maybe the problems with MMSLite are coming from a different source...

@Tora201 and Cedricguo: You two need to compare notes and see why you got these different results. This could be a big help to others if you can figure it out.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Well, all I did was the usual. Install Japanese support first

ime_311_QV, followed by letsjapanNo.6. I then reset the thing and installed network settings, connsbm, orecert, followed by putting Out and wifiwake into windows. Ran wifiwake, then installed mmslite.bld275. I then soft-reset, just to be sure.

The problem with ALL 6.1 roms (I have tried them all) is the same: Mmslite sometimes appears in the mail chooser menu, and sometimes doesn't. After a soft-reset, it generally works for a while, but not always! With the latest Pays rom, it appeared more often, but then for some reason the next day it was back to its old tricks. Pays was the closest, though. At the end of the day, it would seem that the best rom at the moment is K's 6.0 Final Lite. (Blazingly fast, too! Fastest I have ever used - and again, I have tried almost all of them). I installed Lite last night after the latest Randomize 6.1 didn't work. An interesting thing: Randomize would not even display mmslite at all. Not once could I get it to show in the chooser.

A real mystery, this one.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
why doesnt arcsoft mms work on softbank phones?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jarotbudiono:
Well, Softbank is just different.

Anyway, is there any way to install Arcsoft back after we uninstalled MMSLite? I never be able to get MMS folder appears after removing MMSLite and reinstalling ArcSoft MMS back. It's a troublesome for us who's gonna visit countries with ArcsoftMMS-compatible providers.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] :
When I tried Faria / Dr Puttingham WM6.1, I had used CE-STAR V28WM5 R3b

for Japanese and Chinese support + Ask IME_31j_QV for Japanese Input,

then installed mmslite.bld265, and it did work.

But I never stay with WM6.1 more than 12 hours.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
@HungryHippo: Arcsoft has no problems working with the ROM, but it is incompatible with Softbank's proprietary MMS system.

@jarotbudiono: I have never uninstalled Arcsoft from any ROM. I only removed the registry entries for it. If you put the registry entries back in then it might work. Then again, it might mess things up. Give it a try and report back.

@Cedricguo and Tora201: Soooo, you guys have different MUI packages. Cedric is using CE-STAR and Tora201 is using LetsJapanNo6.

Question to Cedricguo: have you tried any ROMs with CE-STAR and MMSLite that haven't worked?

Question to Tora201: Do you have (or can you get) a copy of CE-STAR?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] robotician:
After I read this thread, I tried to install MMS Lite.

Wow, it happened, I mean, it was installed and I could see 'MMS S!メール'.

I had cooked my own rom based Pandora Naked 9b1 w/o MMS.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
For how long did it work? Sorry to sound negative...

Oh, and even with a pure Japanese language rom (Samurai climax 6.1) mslite does not work). Therefore I don't think it has anything to do with letsjapan6...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
I realise its incompatible with softbanks mail system but instead of making a new mail program (MMSLite) would it be possible to modify arcsoft mms somehow to make it compatible with softbank?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] robotician:
Well, I also experienced that mmslite did not work after WM6 released in this form.

After I had tried a number of times and I read larsuck's report, I gave up mmslite. I could not remember how many times I had cooked;), I did not install mmslite.

Today is the first time I installed mmslite after I gave up.

The only diffence between my current rom(?) and old one is I set up Softbank network via HTC network wizard before I installed mmslite.

And mmslite works fine.

BTW, what is letsjapan6? ... well I'll try to google first
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
If you used the network wizard to setup the connection then you are not using the unlimited packet plan server so you could be in for a HUGE phone bill
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] robotician:
Yes, I already experienced a HUGE bill. that was one of reason why I gave up mms;)

As I mentioned before, Today is the first time I installed mmslite after I flashed WM6.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
@robotician: I've used WM6 on many, many WM6 ROMs and never had a problem. Currently I am using it on Pandora 7b2. Have you been deleting the Arcsoft registry entries before installing? That is necessary sometimes.

I also got MMSLite to work on a Pandora 9 ROM, but not consistently. Sometimes after a softreset, and sometimes for no reason that I can see, the MMS account would disappear.

I also found the 9 ROM to be far inferior to the 8 ROM in speed and stability. Pandora 8 however, wouldn't EVER show the MMS account no matter what I did.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] frod.mrv:
does MMS has something to do with internet connection?

i though they use different connections. cuz i was able to use MMSlite even without installing softbank internet connection.

imho mms lite makes it's own hidden connection and uses it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] :
朗報

The very rom <Hermes_ShadoW_2.1_TE>.

Just tesuted it with Askal e-chinaV62 No.5 + Ask IME_31J + MMSlite.blt275 + Regional setting = Japanese(Japan) + No regist edit

It works perfectly..

The bulid is CE OS 5.2.19199(Build 19199.1.0.0)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
See my new thread in Hermes http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=370883

What plan do you use? What are the advantages/disadvantages? For the record, I recently took the blue pill.:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] robotician:
@frod.mrv: I agree with you. but I'm not sure MMS lite use proxy settings or not.

@larsuck: I don't remember which version of Pandona I cooked with before. But I think it was Pandora 8 which didn't show MMS account.

And I didn't know about instability of MMS lite + WM6.1 as you mentioned. Well, I'll try to test;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] neshyd:
works for me...

hey all,

I've installed Pays Lite 6.1 (the one from Feb 11th) with mmslite (bld 267).

It works just fine. Make sure to delete traces of Arcsoft from the registry.

I love WM 6.1, so quick and snappy!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
how long have you had that rom with mmslite?

I had the same combo and it was fine for 2 days then i noticed that mmslite kept disappearing
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] neshyd:
I've been using it for about a week now, and so far MMSlite hasn't disappeared from the accounts..

However, it did for the first day, because I installed build 265.. so I went and installed the build 267. I attached the cab file so you can see if this works for you.

Best of Luck
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] frod.mrv:
Have anyone already tested it with new [WM6.1] Hermes ShadoW 2.1 CE?

I've been using Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL [SuperStorage] for the last month. But for the last week i have problems. Inersoft Address Book Caller ID stoped working, vibra mode sometime vibrate, sometimes not and other small stuff. So I am thinking about moving to WM6.1, but with all that MMSlite problems I am not sure which ROM to use.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
mmslite267? I had actually nerver heard of this build until today.

Perhaps 267 does work with 6.1! I will try the latest shadow 2.1 later....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
Thanks for the cab but when i extracted the zip file it is named MMSLite.bld265.CAB

ill give it a try though. I have only tried MMSLite 275 before with pays rom but it didnt work
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] neshyd:
Oh my bad! I didn't realise. Though that is the exact CAB file that I used to install mmslite.

So far all my messages are coming in and going out no problems.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
just flashed the rom and installed your mms cab.ill keep everyone posted on how it goes.

Just out of curiosity, do you have you location set to Japan in the regional settings? Just wonder if that has an effect on mmslite
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] neshyd:
I have my regional settings set to United States. I don't think it has any effect on MMSLite.

I really hope it works out for you, it would be a pain to use that dreadfully slow Softbank Mail App!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
thanks for your help. ive been messing with it for about an hour now and so far so good.see how it goes tomorrow

EDIT:

MMSLite just disappeared :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
I just installed Pays latest 3.5 lite at first with mmslite275, and it caused lrandom ockups. I then installed 267 over it. (The cab above is 267. I know when you unzip it, it says 265, but if you go into properties once it is installed, it says 267. The cab file is also 23 kilobytes larger than 265.

All is working well except that if you soft-reset whiile the mail application is minimized all mail in the inbox dissappears. Thiis happens when using either storage card or device memory. Strange! 275 also did the same, as well as the random lockups. At least this time, MMSlite itself shows in the mail selection menu!

So at the moment, 267 would see to be the best bet. Now, how to stop disappearing mails.......
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] frod.mrv:
btw, i also had problems with disapearing emails on WM6. i think it was PAYS ROM version... hmm, dont remember the number, but it was somewhat of December release, I think.

p.s. mmslite was 275.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] neshyd:
Hey,

have you tried installing an eariler build? I'm using Pays Feb 22nd version.. and I can report that it is not stable in terms of keeping that "MMS1" account in Outlook Mobille.

So far the most stable as been build 265 with Pays WinMob 6.1 ROM (Feb 11th)

Ususally reinstalling MMSLite fixes the issue, but that's just pain to do.

I'm going back to Pays 6.1 (Feb 11th)

Anyone else using the same ROM/MMSLite version and having no issues?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Perhaps there may be a workaround, albeit a little clumsy.

SPS diary is a program that (among other things) modifys the today screen with a custom mail selector. Under 6.0, as well as MMS1, I found It could also display arcsoft mms, whose registry key I had previously deleted.

So, I perhaps it is possible to display MMS1, using

sps's diary under 6.01, without relying upon the normal mail selector menu. Am I making sense?

Anyone willing to give it a go and post results? I would, but I just want to take a break from flashing my device every 5 minutes. I currently have my system working wonderfully under Pays final 6.0 lite.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
Could it possibly be the threaded sms in 6.1 thats screwing with MMSLite?

i installed the palm threaded sms cab on my hypercorelite rom and mms also disappeared from the mail selection screen
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] frod.mrv:
that's what everybody says. bcuz threaded sms also cuz some problems in other programs.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] frod.mrv:
i am using SPB diary. and it doesnt help in anyway. if MMS (or MMS1)is not in Messeging and Outlook, Spb Diary also doesnt show it on Today screen.

btw, 265 and 267 builds seem to be more stable, comparing to 275.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
Is there any way to disable threaded sms in 6.1?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
From a Kaiser thread:

and from Cloudyfa in a Hermes forum

But the second one seems to have the undesirable consequence of stopping New Text Message alerts.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Oh well! It was a long shot! I wonder why it still shows acrsoft MMS, even though the mail selector does not..... Cheers for that, man.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] frod.mrv:
hmm, dont know.

the first thing I always do - i delete all registry about Arcsoft during first or second reboot.

Maybe it is something in the way your ROM is cooked, when Arcsoft MMS software is build into system.

btw, there are so many users of MMSlite, but why noone has not already cooked it inside any ROM?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Someone probably has. I'd bet even money that some Japanese guy has already done so, but there are few Japanese X01HT users who have the patience and read English well enough to follow the threads on this site. Hell, even I have problems understanding people on this site sometimes.

But cooking apps into ROMs isn't as easy as installing a .cab. Or at least that is what I have been led to believe.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] frod.mrv:
and what about pre-isntalling (or I dont know how to call it) it? when the device boots for the first time, sometimes there is a first auto-install, when some cabs begin to install automaticaly and then boot the device again.

well, it does not solve our problem with WM6.1 anyway. but it could be good to have some English Rom made specialy for Japanese softbank devices with SB MMS functions inside the ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
I've got the name of a possible candidate for the maker of MMSLite. But I don't know if it will do us any good.

Does anyone know a Ryoichi Iwaida: AKA Aoi Tomao?

(Possibly the same guy as maker of DevState for PPC.)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wreckerdude:
I've been using the ShaDoW 2.0 CE 6.1 for the past couple of weeks, and I didn't notice until yesterday that there is no MMS. I see I'm a little late to the discussion.

I need this to work. I send a lot of pictures. It's not even showing an option to use MMS in the message listing. All I can do is send text messages. The option for inserting video, or pics backed out.

I love this rom, fast and very stable, but I need the MMS to work. I didn't see notice there is an updated rom I guess? 2.1?

I downloaded the MMSLite.cab from the earlier post. I'm also going to try the updated ShaDoW 2.1 rom with the MMSLite cab.

ope this works, or it will be back to VPG's v3! :confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Are you in Japan using Softbank's system? If not, MMSLite is not going to work for you in any case.

If you are in America using ATT (your sig says ATT Optimized) search for a .cab of Arcsoft MMS and install it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
The new Faria/Puttingham 32 WM6.1 ROM is no good as well. Same as the others, MMS account doesn't show up after installing MMSLite.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
There should be soon a TNT Rom for 6.1

Let s cross fingers... TNT Roms have always been quite impressive in terms of stability and compatibility

What is for sure is I wont install 6.1 if I cant use my MMS
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Agreed. The 6.1 builds I have used have been pretty snappy, but not worth throwing away MMS for. Especially since the new IE is available in .cab form.

As far as the TNT ROM, or any future ROM for that matter, is concerned, I am not too hopeful. I think MMSLite is somehow being blocked by the changes made to allow threaded SMS. Therefore any ROM that contains threaded SMS is going to have problems with MMSLite.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Yes it's possible... That s****

The only hope is then to get in touch with the maker. Or to use the other method to get the SMS. If I remember well here was a second way to get MMS working with arcsoft's software, but it was not very reliable. Am I wrong ? (ou nedeed to cretae your own connection)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] frod.mrv:
in his last rom

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=374382

Faria says that "Sms treading enable/disable option now...can be set in advanceconfig in settings"

has somebody tried? cuz most problems with mmslite seems with sms threading... maybe this fixs it all.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Latest Faria's is no good. It doesn't display mmslite at all! Other roms would display it on and off, but I got nothing at all from Faria's. It did not even show up once! So much for that one.......
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
Just tried the latest TNT 6.1 rom. MMSLite installs but still disappears from the mail selection screen after a few minutes
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Oh no :(

I guess no WM 6.1 for me then...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Anybody has tried the good old method of using Arcsoft MMS and setup his own connetion + MMS relauncher ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Wow, that never occurred to me. I remember that method vaguely, and if I recall right, wasn't it quite a bother?

Anyone still have a link to a howto?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
what email address does it send from? the same one as when you use MMSLite or a different address?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] neshyd:
the email address is the same when using mmslite or the Arcsoft MMS method.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Yeah, but for those of us who use a "tsukaihoudai paketo puranu" (as much internet you can use plan), we are out of luck since it uses the old softbank mail settings. Thus this solution is not going to work for me. :--(

Now, if there was a way to make the thing use opensoftbank (open.softbank.ne.jp) settings, then we would be in business.....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] neshyd:
Im also on that same plan, and the MMS still works with the Arcsoft method....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
it still works but you will be charged full price for every packet you use for mms
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
I thought MMS were not included in that plan ? (I have the plan and if I recall well I pay for MMS (But not for internet))
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
i just checked softbanks website and it says that mms sending and receiving are covered by the packet service so if you dont use the open.softbank server then youll get charged for them
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Great find neshyd. Now we can be sure that it is incompatibility between the MMSLite program and 6.1.

Do you find that this method is reliable? Does it send and recieve all the time, every time?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] neshyd:
very reliable

Thanks alot larsuck,

It's very reliable! However, some are saying that the MMS sending/receiving is not included the Softbank all access package plan. Does MMSLite allow MMS sending over the open.softbank.ne.jp? Or does it just use it's own created connection?

So far I'm very happy with my WM 6.1 device and MMS with emoticon support!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
MMSLite does use it's own created connection. Though this connection cannot be seen by accessing Settings>Connections>Connections>Manage Existing Connections, other programs such as Schap's Advanced Config can see this connection. It is called MMS. However, I have never been able to find these connection settings to see what they are.

As far as the packet discount goes... I only know from my own experience that the data charges through the MMS Connection made by MMSLite are included in the Softbank all access package plan.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] neshyd:
Ah I see now. If only we had our hands on those MMS settings! So far I've been sending a few emails back and forth with friends on AU.. so I guess I'll just have to see by the end of this month if MMS is included or not.

Has anyone else tried setting ArcSoft yet?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Oh, I had also assumed MMSlite used the opensoftbank settings to connect....not that it really matters either way in this case, I suppose. The point is we can't use the Arcsoft MMS workaround method as things are without being charged extra if we are on an "all you can use packet" plan. Oh well.....

:--(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Got it working, finally.....

Some good news:

The latest TNT Vanilla is working perfectly with MMSlite. That might mean that Roms without Arcsoft work, or it might have something to do with fact that it is a Vanilla Rom; I don't know. All I know is that I have tried every trick in the book to make MMSlite disappear, lose mail etc, but not once have I succeeded. Or, I might just be lucky.....

One interesting thing: I did not let the external Rom install. That could also have something to do with it.

Anybody else willing to try and then post results?

EDIT: It seemed to work for a 24 hours or so. However, just started not working again - of its own accord. :--*(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
I tried all the TNT Roms last week but couldn't get them to work MMSLite installed ok but would disappear soon
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
hehe, yeah.... sort of makes me laugh. All we do is try every single ROM but in the end, none of them work. Damn Japanese providers for not using standard MMS!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
I'm not as upset about the MMS situation here as I am about the SMS situation! I would almost never need MMS if I could SMS across carriers!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
True... but this is nothing new in Japan...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shilei7899:
Did you guys sync your phones with PC?

My experience is the MMSLite account disappears after every sync.

Chinese WM6.1 Rom (Build 19199) + MMS Lite b265
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
i never had time to sync my phone.It always disappeared before then
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Ditto. Mine always disappeared before I got a chance to do more than test it.

@shilei7899, Do you sync your email through Activesync?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Anyone feeling brave?

With my schedule in the next week or so, I'm not going to have time to flash a 6.1 ROM and try this, but I found a .exe for PPC on the web that apparently preps your registry to install MMSLite.

This is of course grasping at straws, but I think we are at that point right now. Anyone have a 6.1 ROM set up and ready to try this on?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
ill give it a go tonight or tomorrow morning and report back
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
well, its been two hours so far and it seems to be working.ill post again tomorrow morning with an update