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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
The first two hours eh? For me, everything has always disappeared in the first two minutes. I am getting excited - but not too excited.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
No, no, no... does not work! I also found it a few months ago and have tried it. Same result. :--(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
yeah,no good.woke up this morning and mms was gone :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Bummer! Sorry I didn't have time to try it out myself. Thanks for being the guinea pig HungryHippo.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Where did she go? She ran off with another lover? :D

Seriously though, in my experience, the latest Viet roms and also TNT slim versions (versions without Arcsoft) work (almost) fine with MMSlite. The only thing is that the thing will disappear if you CLOSE the application and try and RE-OPEN it. With other 6.1Roms there would be random disappearing even if I just minimized the application, which meant I also lost mails. Some others didn't even show MMSlite AT ALL even after a clean install!!

With the two roms above, even if you soft reset your device whilst MMSlite is open it does not lose mails. That was a first for me.... I have not lost any mails yet! Yeah!

Anyway I have been sticking with TNT for the past few days and the results have not changed: Just don't CLOSE the application and you will be fine. (Pushing X only minimizes it).

Anyway, it seems the situation is getting better, albeit slowly. Perhaps not having Arcsoft installed at all is making a difference.....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shilei7899:
@larsuck

I don't sync email.

Another possibility is the account disappeared before sync, I forgot to make sure if it existed before sync.;)

@tora201

seems the rom I used is one of the "other 6.1 Roms".

The account disappears randomly -- mostly after a couple of hours.

but, if I CLOSE the mail app and REOPEN it, the account appears again.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Anybody tried pmms ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=382025
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
The correct link has been posted

It's worth a try I think
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] s2k7:
MMSLite.1.1.301.wm6.cab

Anyone tried this NEW version?

http://x01ht.s286.xrea.com/MMSLite.1.1.301.wm6.cab
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] neshyd:
Hey,

I just tried it..it does nothing.. I can't even see the MMS account in the account picker.

I haven't used MMS in a while, I'm starting to miss it.. I love the speed of Wm 6.1.. can't get rid of it!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] frod.mrv:
i tried it. it has a lot of options now. servers, connections... but it is all emty. you need to fill it yourself. and as i dont know what to fill in, it didnot work out.

if somebody knows what to fill in:

1) MMS server

2) MMS gateway

please write it here.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] s2k7:
There are information at following link:

For the internet connection, using:

PASSWORD:qceffknarlurqgbl

http://blogs.shintak.info/articles/MMSLite11.aspx
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
I got it to install and register on Pandora Naked 9, but the account disappeared soon after. Looks like a no-go for 6.1 again.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Anybody writting Japanese who could drop a line on Shino blog and try to find out if the developper of MMSLite could adapt it to WM6.1 ?

Or maybe new builts will be compatible... Anyway I havent upgarded to 6.1 and wont if I cant get MMSs to work
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Tried the new build from PDAViet with no success

Same behavior as before using PDAViet's 19400 based Clean and Black ROM. MMS account fails to appear seemingly randomly.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] zorp_zorp:
MMSLite.bld265 + Dutty WM6.1 5.2.19209 = working (sort of)...

I've been following this thread for quite some time and finally had the time, courage, and patience to try some of the combinations that you all suggested. Thank to all of you who have put in so much time into this forum with your comments and advice.

Step1:

Flashed HardSPL

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1846653&postcount=800

Step2:

Flashed Dutty WM6.1 5.2.19209

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Cooked_ROMs

Step3:

KAIS_Radio_Only_1.64.06.04_CustomRUU

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=298919&highlight=arcsoft+hermes

Step4:

Softbank AP Settings for internet connection

Step5:

installed LetsJapanNo6.zip and IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip

then had to make the registry changes to get the keyboard working again. Change value at the below key to 00000409, no need to reboot.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]

“Keyboard Layout”=”00000409″

Step6:

Deleted all Arcsoft entries using the pre installed registry editor.

Step7:

first installed mmslite275, and immediately reinstalled mmslite267 over it. hard reset

Step8:

Can see an the following accounts after clicking Start > Messaging

- Outlook E-mail

- SMS MMS

Step9:

Sent myself a messsage from gmail to my softbank email address. The Kaiser wakes up and shows a notification of recieved message with Japanese menus.

I could now see the following accounts

- MMS

- Outlook E-mail

- SMS MMS

Other observations:

It seems that after synchronizing contacts, calendar, and email with activesync, the MMS account dissappears and does not return.

i reflashed again and after completing Steps 1~8, i synchronized only the contacts and calendar. The MMS account dissappeared again, but returned after a hard reset and only after sending another message to my Softbank address.

if i don't shut down the messaging application (minimize only) the MMS account remains. So far the MMS account has lasted 2 days. It did however disappear once after playing with some settings. But again after sending myself another email to my Softbank address, the MMS account appeared again along with the previous messages.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
zorp,

Is your signature current? Are you on a TytnII? If so, that totally breaks my heart. It means that probably no matter what hardware we use, any 6.1 ROM is going to be unable to run MMSLite as it should.

This truly is sadness.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
So what you re saying is if you send yourself an email to your MMS accunt, it will pop back ?

If so, then it may be enough for me...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
The new 19701 build from PDAViet is a no go. It has the same behavior as before.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Hehe, here is a slightly funny story....

I thought I might try using the latest PDAViet with softbank mail (Remember that horrible little app from the softbank site). Hehe... what a joke. Even in Viet (which is FAST, btw) the application is as slow as a wet dog... (I have been using it for the past week or so, just to give Softbank's horrible little app another chance... To tell you the truth, I had been hoping for more... but I have reached my limit! Oh well.. back to the drawing board then.....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Yeah, I actually did the same thing a couple of weeks ago when the new PDAViet 19400 rom came out. Truly, that app sucks. I would rather go without MMS.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] zorp_zorp:
i'm on a TytnII (HTC model). Bought the device in Hong Kong last xmas and was without MMS for 6 months (had the Hermes previously). currently travelling in Canada now and roaming on Rogers (a Canadian mobile phone carrier), after using active sync (only contacts and tasks), the MMS account will disappear. After a soft reset, I then resend myself an email from my google account and the MMS account pops back into view with all the previous messages.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] qtotter:
this is not really a solution.

diamond rom is out, and i played it with hermes. i replaced the sys folder with the sys of matt's naked kitchen, and created my own rom.

mms disappears once you access messaging as usual. but mms comes back if you soft reset the phone.

qt
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tonidekohlanta:
Hello everyone,

I was about to upgrade to WM 6.1, but obviously it is maybe a bad idea with softbank!

I had one question about the price of MMS (possible thanks to MMSLite!!!). Everytime i receive a message which goes to MMS folder (generally when a friend put a smiley a text message, they all use normal cellphones), a 3G connexion opens and downloads my message. Nothing surprising here.

But on the bill I now have to pay for the downloaded messages. But with the white plan, MMS should be free between Softbank users (all my friends are on softbank). And as an explanation, I never installed the .cab for "waking" the internet access (you know with the **** we don't know in the password field) because I don't use internet on my phone (too expensive I think).

My question is, if I install the .cab for "waking" the internet connexion, will the MMS become free of charge? What do everyone pay for their MMS message? Maybe I pay only on message reception (I never figured out if I pay for sending mails)?

Thank you for reading my looong message, and for your help. I hope we will figure out a solution for MMS on WM 6.1, I will report when I'll update.

Toni
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
The quick answer is: no, even if you install the Softbank AP files and WIFIwake the MMS will not be free. This is because MMSLite only works with email addresses - not phone numbers. In order to have free MMS, one must send the MMS to a phone number and not to an address. Currently using Softbank's MMS software (which is a pig) is the only possible way to send MMS to a phone number.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chenga:
Has anyone tried to bake MMSLite into a ROM? I wonder if that would keep it from disappearing at all.

Or I suppose if someone has a lot of skill and time, he could tear apart the Softbank app's code and try to make it not suck or make a new program, heh.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jarotbudiono:
In other words, if I only receive MMS from other softbank user (They sent it using phone number or using "ordinary" softbank MMS software, Softbank won't charge me?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
In the case of a normal phone, yes. However, in the case of a WM device using MMSLite, I am not so sure. I only know what happens to me with my bills.

It seems that in my case, the MMSLite connection is being charged as usual, however those charges (both recieving and sending it seems) are first discounted 60%, and then then remainder is counted in my White Plan charges.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tonidekohlanta:
okay this month I have only 6 yens of MMS charge, I think I will quit *****ing... I did the maths, it represent 30 packets, which represent 4 kbytes. Not so much...

I was confused with my SMS charge, which were huge but thanksfully included in the white plan.

For jarutbudiono, I think that YOU should have softbank's MMS ****ty software in order not to pay anything. It doesn't matter what method your friends used to mail you.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
or just get the Blue Plan, and then it does not matter what software you use. As I understand it, you can send as much mail/data as you like and use any software and even internet sharing all for 5000 yen flat fee a month. I use it and have not noticed any charges over that.....

Only problem is that if you can`t use the Blue Plan in conjunction with the White Plan. Not that I make a lot of calls anyway....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
I tried to get the blue plan in may so i could get the 5000 flat rate but they said from the end of april that service was discontinued :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Really?? I must have just got in on time then.... Damn, it must have been a really popular plan that they discontinued? Um... I just checked their website, and they do have it, but it seems different? No longer includes unlimited access? Somebody clue me up?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
yeah, i didnt really word my message that well :)

the blue plan is still available but the 5000 flat rate has been discontinued
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
So I wonder what happens to me then? Softbank never informed me of this change... I had better check some recent bills and find out what is going on...

I wonder why they got rid of the flat rate? Too popular, perhaps?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] qtotter:
sb has discontinued new subscriptions of this cheap flat fee data access plan. current subscribers can keep using it as ever.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
cheers for that, man. I am lucky, then!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chenga:
Did a bit of Googling today, and found that people are reporting that MMSLite 1.1 Build 303 works with WM6.1

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/SeaBream/20080710#1215661497

Download link below

http://www011.upp.so-net.ne.jp/genocide/mmslite11.htm
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
I have also been following the link you provided for some time. One thing though, is that the thing has to be set up by hand. I have never really figured out how to set it up. Here is a link to the settings (with picture tutorial) but if you read the comments, there seem to be many problems getting it going....

I actually did try it some time ago and could never get it to work.....

http://blogs.shintak.info/articles/MMSLite11.aspx

If you did manage to get it going could you please tell us in plain English how you did it? Cheers!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
I got it to work, but had the same problems with WM6.1 as I did with the other builds. Also, it doesn't seem to offer any more features than 275, so I still use 275.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chenga:
Hmm, my bad. I saw the blog entry dated yesterday and assumed that build 303 was a new release
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
If you go to the site, it says the newest build 303 does work. There is a note there that says that problems with 6.1 have been solved. Could you therefore post a little guide on what settings you used to get it going? At least I can then try it with several different 6.1 builds. Perhaps a newer build works?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] qtotter:
yes, build 303 does work on wm6.1. i tested both on hermes(19949) and polaris(19214). i think it's an issue not of wm6.1 build but of your mmslite setting. there are several setting guides on the internet with different connections, different proxy addresses and different user agents.

this is my setting.

****

on the connection tab, use softbank (flat rate connection), not wap. i tried wap connection, but there seems to be a file/message size limit per message with this connection.

mms server address: http://mms/

port: 80

mms gateway proxy: sbmmsproxy.softbank.ne.jp

port: 8080

you must set user agent. in my case, i used V705SH.

name: V705SH

user agent: (just copy and paste the two lines below)

Vodafone/1.0/V705SH/SHJ001 Browser/VF-NetFront/3.3

Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1

****

i have been using it for a couple of days already, but have not seen any issues yet.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Well shizzle my nizzle. I guess it is working - so far that is.

Sorry about my previous post, closer inspection proved that I was using a previous 301 build the time it didn't work.

Kudos to the maker!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chenga:
Hopefully it continues to work. I'll finally upgrade to 6.1 then! Glad I kept checking those blogs :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Yep, this is a good idea. All you need to do is to use the old flat connection trick in conjunction with the above settings. Works well! Now we can finally join the ranks of 6.1! :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jarotbudiono:
Great!!...

I'll rush to grab 6.1, immediately.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HungryHippo:
ive been using pays 6.1 rom with the new mmslite for about 24 hours now and no problems at all so far :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
All working fine here. No problems whatsoever. Time to mark this one as solved. ;-)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jarotbudiono:
I've been using latest Pays ROM and this MMS lite for almost 24 hours without problem.. Yes, hopefully this is the end of our problem in using MMS and WM 6.1..

Thanks to chenga for the information and qtotter for the user agent setting..

of course thanks to larsuck for his special thread addressing this issue.

GBU all.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Zgembo:
Thanks for investigation people... Can somebody recommand good WM6.1 ROM that works fine with MMSLite 303 & Asukal's Japanese input?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tora201:
Any of the latest roms work fine. I am currently using PDAcornerPro v. 14, although Diamond or Rainbow both work equally as well; as does CRC's latest. However, to tell the truth, the best rom I have probably used thus far is K's 6.0 Final -- just as far as speed and features go. It all depends on what you are looking for, I suppose.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chenga:
Does anybody get an "error synchronizing" along with the equivalent pop-up dialog in Japanese?

I still get all the messages, but it only downloads part of it (actually it's all of it, but it thinks it's only part of it) and it downloads the rest the next time if I tell it to (or delete the message).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] onj:
I can receive but not send

for some reason, I can receive but when I send a reply, it pops up a message "sending fail"<=(of course in japanese)" it's strange I got it to work before on my other rom (older PV rom6.1)that I flashed but with the new PV rom I doesn't seem to work, also tried the new CRC rom, same thing... I think I am missing something?

The connection, should use the old access point... mailservice.voda... but the gate way in mmslite should be sbmmsprox... correct?

just wondering what I am doing wrong... if anyone can shine some light on this it would be greatly appreciated!

I can still live with it, but I guess it would save me time just sending it through mms, instead of sending it through email.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
Silly question, but you aren't trying to reply to a phone number, are you?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] onj:
no

I checked that, I have two phones. I tried emailing to my other phone but it didn't work. I also tried emailing to my actual email, it didn't work... maybe the mmslite that I downloaded is corrupted. I'll have to start from fresh. I don't think anyone else is having the same problem.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chenga:
I think if you're going to use the vodafone connection, you'll have to use the vodafone gateway as well

vfkkmmsproxy.vodafone.ne.jp
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Exactly same problem as you

Just to make tihngs clear: the only things we have to input in the tabs is what was indicated by qtotter here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=365760&page=14

Or anything to fill somewhere ?

For some reasons I have exactly the same issue :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Am I wrong to say that you can go either following this acces point

http://www20.atwiki.jp/smartphone/pages/7.html

But then wont have the flat rate

OR

normally just install MMSLite and just modifying the settings according to qtotter should be enough to ahve the flat rate and MMS working ?

I tried the second but just cnat mange to send... mmh weird
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
1. Everything comes down to the following question: qtotter, larsuck or other people successful: what are the settings you use for the Softbank connection ? (Login, Password, etc...)

2. It could also be something else: I deleted every bit of reference to Arcsoft in the registry before installing MMSLite. After restarting the device, checking and still no problem, no reference to Arcsoft, Great However after clicking on my message center, what I see in the list is MMS and not MMS1 (Maybe this is normal, no idea, what do you have ?). When clicking there, lots of menus in English, and if I go to "about" I see references to Arcsoft. If I stay in the main menu for mesages and go to options, the options are the ones for MMSLite, all in Japanese. Going back to my registry editor and then references to Arcsoft reappeared...

Did 2 hard reset, trying to be the "cleanest as possible" in the deletions and the process... still same result

If you can tell me 1. if this is normal (Maybe Arcsoft intregating better with MMSLite) 2. how you did to succeed !!

I am using CRCs v12.5 ROM

Thanks a lot for your help
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
And last question (Not directly related): I ma trying to use the following method from itamae for my flatrate:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2466846#post2466846

But it ConnSBM.CAB doesnt install successfully. That's weird once again it was doing well with my WM6.0

Did you have this problem ? Someone has a work around ?

Thank you !!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] larsuck:
I posted an answer to this flatrate connection question on the other thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=298031&page=16

I a currently trying to repeat your experience of not being able to send.

AFAIK, MMSLite 265/275 made a new connection called MMS (it is invisible, but there - it can be seen by using Advanced Config). It never used the flatrate connection, but my MMS charges have always been included in my flatrate allotment nonetheless.

I am willing to bet that the data that made this connection in MMSLite 265/275 is the same data that we are using to make a connection manually in MMSLite 3xx. By removing this automatic connection setup the author of MMSLite was probably 1) trying to avoid litegation from Softbank and/or 2) preparing for the day when Softbank changes their mail server connection settings.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
I am using Qtotter's settings, ie as follows

****

connection tab: softbank

mms server address: http://mms/

port: 80

mms gateway proxy: sbmmsproxy.softbank.ne.jp

port: 8080

user agent name: V705SH

user agent:

Vodafone/1.0/V705SH/SHJ001 Browser/VF-NetFront/3.3

Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1

****

Ar you using somehign different ?

what is showing for your accounts ? MMS1 ? Or MMS only ? Do you ave also some stuff remaining from Arcsoft (When going in the about section) ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
I just bet what I am using is Arcsoft and MMSLite is actually invisible... Though I can see the options for it

That would explain this problem to send

However since I deleted everything in the registry (several times...) I dont see what I may have done wrong...