yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] nevernding:
Same here... Coming from a Moto X Play (so, 2015), the pictures in good light are just worst, the oversharpening is horrible...

Back to topic: Does anybody think, as I do, that the pixel camera on the G6 produces images that lack sharpness. The LG camera is oversharpening like crazy, and the pixel one is not sharp enough. Am I missing something ? Using Pixel (corr) & Nexus 6P config.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Leonccyiu:
I am interested in buying a g6 to use with the Google camera app because LG is one of the last manufacturers to maintain a 29mm focal length for their main camera whereas the other manufacturers have been going wider and wider (the pixels, s7/8/note 8 and u11 are 26mm, the Xperia XZ series are 24mm, oneplus 5 moved to 24mm 1.7 from 29mm f2 in the oneplus 3/3t) to get rid of the camera bump, have wider apertures and use larger sensors. I can understand why they are doing this as reviews judge them on low light image quality, but when it comes to framing your subject, it means that you have to move much closer, and that's fine if you're able to do so, but often you're unable to do so.

The other reasons I'd like to choose the g6 is because of the relatively low price since it's using last years hardware, although the v20/v30 have 16mp sensors, their much larger and difficult to hold, the other two phones with 29mm lenses, the oneplus 3/3t have 1080p pentile screens which look really pixellated whereas the 2880x1440 ips screen on the g6 is the sharpest I have ever seen, the s7/8 have higher ppi's but their pentile which make it slightly less sharp at that density.

I understand that the Gcam is not optimised for this device and there could be stability problems, I've seen some low light pics with a purple tinge, in dpreview, they also showed that in bright sunlight, the raw pictures had a purple tinge to them that wasn't there in the phone processed jpegs.

As for the secondary camera, I am not bothered about wide angle and much prefer telephoto, but of course Gcam doesn't work with secondary cameras, I wonder if it's possible to remap the secondary camera as the front camera which would be the case for all apps, and so when you switch between front and main cams, you'd switch between the dual cameras?

The Pixel does have a much larger sensor 1/2.3 inch vs 1/3.06 in the g6, and the lens in the pixel is reportedly much sharper throughout the frame, I don't know if there's any corner softness in the g6. What other improvements in the pics of the pixel do you find over the g6 with Gcam HDR+?

I think that's an apples to oranges comparison, the g6 will benefit from HDR+ but won't have the larger sensor and wider aperture of the s7.

It's a shame you won't be able to use Gcam HDR+ on your moto x pure because of the 21mp sensor. On Gsmarena comparison photos, the Moto x play which is similar to your phone with a similar 21mp sensor is one of the few to really resolve more than the 16mp sensors on the london underground map, the rest are quite noisy. Do you know the focal length of your phone's camera? The focal length should be reported in the exif data, and I can multiply it by the crop factor.

edit: I found out, the focal length is 4.67mm x 5.8 crop factor for a 1/2.4 sensor and that's around 27mm. The corners do look a bit soft.

I think the Gcam is actually the right amount of sharpness, and you can apply more in post, both LG and Samsung apply a tonne of sharpening, and with Samsung, noise reduction as well.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] raphy3:
I do think the Gcam app applies the right amount of sharpening. The darker the room, the softer the shot, but it's got to be really dark before it doesn't look sharp enough. In medium - good light the results are great. The hdr+ mode also clearly eliminates noise, and this compensates for the smaller sensor to a point. When it's very dark the whole thing breaks down of course and noise is present. But so is it also on my wife's s7. At that point turn on the flash. Shame on lg going to such a small sensor just to avoid a camera hump though.

You should give the moto x pure a try. I'm surprised by how'd much I took the clarity for granted. Clearly the 21mp allowed me to zoom in on any shot after the fact and not see a muddy mess, and now I expect all phone cameras to be this way. What's more, I now realize how inadequate phone camera reviews are. Their priorities seem to not overlap well with mine. The Google camera developers do seem to know what I think is important in a camera.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] kabirjedi:
Oversharpening ?

AND???

Use manual mode with al- and capture raw...No oversharpening..
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] nevernding:
Not getting your reaction. Just stating an obvious fact to give context to my post.

Anyway, I find it important to be able to capture the ephemeral moments of life in Auto mode that would be gone by the time I set up the Iso and Shutter speed. And then to be able to preview it / send a decent JPG on the spot without resorting to Photoshop/Gimp.

If you don't mind Manual + Raw all the time, good for you
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] kabirjedi:
Mate!

Manual mode with ae-l = AUTO mode(just extended saving options(RAW)

But this massive off here .Pls guys back to topik thanks!
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] raphy3:
Well talking about how the Google app makes the g6 camera better and comparing to the lg app seems on topic to me. I just wish lg would release an official app that behaves like the Google app. Thatwould reduce some of the bugs,allow use of wide angle, and enable saving to sd card.

Oh and I agree that manual mode with everything then set to auto allows quick point and shoot without any oversharpening and you can turn off noise reduction to make pics even clearer, if you're outdoors, for instance.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] AutinDroid:
H264 works with latest version, but has to be toggled off and on every camera start
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] kabirjedi:
hahah 80% samsung opo.x ,moto etc owner here..

So back to topic pls!
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] fabiocpinto:
Is it already possible to use both cameras on G6?

The normal one and the big angular one?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] nfsmaniac:
Not yet. Until Google releases smartphone with wide-angle camera or someone make deeper modification of the app.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] mingo_mgx:
Can't someone make a modification in the app that you can toggle in the advanced options that you can choose which of the 2 camera's on the back you can pick?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jack-black:
I would really like to get rid of smartburst in latest version. It just keeps creating new albums for each shot when raw is enabled. Is there a way to turn it off? I want raw and jpeg to be saved under Camera album just like in v4.0
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenburn:
Probably it isn't as easy as you might think so :D
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] mingo_mgx:
I dont know, if someone tries and suceeds i am really happy.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cryptecks:
I can tell you now that the last person to reply to you is 100% right, and you should NOT wait around for such a modification. It's not going to happen (unless someday Google releases a dual-lens phone, and even then there's almost no way it will be magically compatible with all of our camera hardware).

Reverse engineering anything from device code/smali is incredibly, incredibly difficult and time consuming. I'm absolutely blown away that this port has gotten this far and works this well, I wouldn't expect any earth-shattering "new" features at all.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenburn:
A rhetorical question: Is there like ultimate best settings or most recommended one? Because I've seen many variations and can't find which seems the best.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jack-black:
How's everybody finding focusing speed? It's extremely slow for me, especially in low light delay between clicking the button and actual shot can be 5+ seconds.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Leonccyiu:
How does focusing speed in low light as well as shot time compare to the stock app? Focusing will take longer in low light anyway and the long shot time could be the multiple frames taken for HDR+

I highly doubt the app itself can be modified, and it is amazing how far the port has gone, this is a great effort. The only possible solution regarding the secondary camera I can think of is if someone finds a way to re-map the secondary camera as the front camera so that in all other apps, the secondary camera is treated as the front camera, I don't even think if it's possible.

I'd really like to use the telephoto camera on the note 8, as secondary cameras including LG's wide cameras have narrower apertures and smaller sensors, so HDR+ could really help with faster shutter speeds, but since google has doubled down on a single camera, it's not gonna happen.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] wasa67:
is it possible to have 2 versions of the app? 1 app that uses the wide and another that uses the regular?

probably already been suggested and tried, was just wondering.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gabbbbbbb:
It's probably not feasible, because the wide angle lens doesn't have the proper API for it.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
B-S-G's Modded Google Camera 5.1.014 with HDR+ for Android 7.0 / ARM64 v1.3 All-in-One Full Manual

Download

Changelog:

Increased HDR+ JPEG quality to 100%

New settings take effect after application is restarted

Must clear data / cache after installation and if the app force closes
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jack-black:
Looks like HDR is on auto by default, cause I still had to enable toggler under settings and select HDR+ Enchanced for it to work on my G6. JPEG file sizes seem to have increased, though visually I don't see much difference in quality, even when zoomed in.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] kabirjedi:
Pixel2xl

Pixel very high

hdr+ super high

=

black screen
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jack-black:
yeah, I had that too, switched to Nexus 6 to make it work.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] vitoski:
Config camera HDR+ determines what maximum level you can choose for HDR+ parameters.

So if the first one says Very High, you shouldn't set the second to Super High. In that case you will get the black screen.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] raphy3:
I've found a bunch of combinations that give black screen actually. I have to uninstall and reinstall the app on some occasions to get back to normal.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] vitoski:
No need to reinstall the app. Simply clear application data and open Gcam again. Look at my previous post, which explains why you get black screen.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] KingFatty:
Oh, so when you said "you can't set the second to [higher than the first setting]" - I thought you meant that the app will prevent you from trying to set things that way. But did you instead mean that you *can* set things that way, but if you do, you will get the black screen?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] vitoski:
Yes indeed, just corrected my previous post.

Now getting back to the most optimal settings for LG G6, I have made several tests with all available Models (Pixel XL (corr), Pixel 2 XL etc.) and found out that only Nexus 6P, Nexus 6, Nexus 5X and Nexus 5 give proper color balance on LG.

When using any of the Pixel version set as Model (first option) all my photos had incorrect colors. They had significant blue tint - they looked almost like with applied filter.

Then I tested all Nexus Models and the colors were fine-exactly like in real life.

So if anyone is interested to test, here is my config:

GCam version: the latest v5

Model: Nexus 6P

Config Camera HDR+: Pixel (Max parameters=Very High)

HDR+ parameters: Very High.

I made my tests in bad lightning conditions - small lamp behind my back and camera, and the second test with the light in front. Both tests have proven that this ugly bluish tint shows up with every Pixel version set as Model in GCam settings.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] KingFatty:
NICE! Agreed, your combination of settings worked great in my torture test too! Couldn't get better results even if I switched to super high parameters... seems like very high does the trick! Thanks for doing the testing - do you use a spreadsheet to knock out all the different combinations?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] joseph168:
Why the front camera does not work with HDR+?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] vitoski:
Glad you like it!

I don't use spreadsheet to note the results, but spent 2 hours yesterday on testing various combinations.

From my observations it doesn't really matter what 'Config camera HDR+' profile you choose: Nexus6, Nexus 6P, Pixel + Smartburst or Pixel. The differences are not that significant.

However it makes a difference depending on the HDR+ parameters you choose. Having the Default of Medium gives quick shots (of course HDR+ set to On). However the details are not that great when you zoom in.

The higher the HDR+ parameters the more details are visible. That being said the Pixel + Very High is the best combo for me.

In my opinion it works better than Nexus 6P + Super High - the later one was a little bit darker.

Keep in mind that all the tests are subjective, so I recommend to test various combinations of 'Config Camera HDR+' and 'HDR+ parameters' and share your findings.

However I can definitely recommend sticking with Nexus 6 or Nexus 6P as the Model (first option), if you are looking for real color reproduction, especially in low light.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] raphy3:
I like the zero shutter lag of the pixel hdr+ model, but the color is off and the photos have just a touch more noise. The nexus 6p model introduces significant shutter lag of course, but I find the noise reduction superb and the colors are closer to real life (still not right though; the original unmodded 4.4 So far had had the best color for me, but its buggier).
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] vitoski:
In have tested again all of the available Models in the latest v5 version. Tests were performed in poor lighting conditions. Shots were taken with tripod and timer set to 3s in order to eliminate any possible shakes.

Tests from today confirmed that none of the Pixel Model: Pixel XL (corr), Pixel XL (original), Pixel 2017 (fablet), Pixel 2XL is good for our phone in terms of color reproduction. So I focused only on Nexus Models in order to select the best one. I run two tests:

TEST 1 - Tested all Nexus Models with 'Config camera HDR+ set to PIXEL' and 'HDR+ parameters set to Very High'.

The outcome was that Nexus 6 (Model) gives the best picture in terms of color and detail.

TEST 2 - Tested all 'Config camera HDR+' profiles with "HDR+ parameters" set to the highest possible level and with Nexus 6 Model.

In this test the best pictures in terms of color and details were taken with either PIXEL or PIXEL+SMARTBURST.

So the conclusion from my 2 day test is that Nexus 6 (Model) with PIXEL (Camera Config HDR+) and Very High (HDR+ parameters) give quite good results (gave me the best) in terms of color, picture clarity and details.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] raphy3:
Edit: nm. Seems that the yuv image errors happen mainly when I forget to go and clean the cache. Seems that when you switch camera models you also want to clean cache and data. After doing that, the nexus 6 with pixel hdr seems to be working.

Prev comments about bug:

It turns out this config is unusable for me. There's some kind of bug that causes hdr to not work and I get toast messages that say "saved yuv image 1" and "saved meta data", and often the number of images gets incremented. So right now with nexus 6p model I also need to use nexus 6p hdr config to make it work reliably. Anyone else see any bug like this?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jack-black:
Is there a difference between hdr+ on and hdr+ enchanced?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] vitoski:
I noticed the same problem when HDR was set to Auto instead of ON. In this case some of the profiles (combinations) give exactly what you described: ' saved yuv image 1'...

Keep in mind that clearing cache and data reverts GCam to it's default (you need to give permissions all over again). So it doesn't make much sense to clear those every time you change profile in my opinion.

Yes there is quite significant difference in image processing and output results. Don't know the technical details, but when HDR is set to Auto, pictures are taken much faster. However you get less details and dynamic range is worst than with HDR+ set to ON. It can be easily spotted on the clouds. Simply speaking HDR+ ON provides best dynamic range and details.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jack-black:
I think what's happening is that Google Camera is actually taking a series of images with HDR+ set to On, analyses noise profile and maybe even combines the images somehow to get more information about detail. That's why it takes so much time between clicking the button and actual image being taken. Obviously with HDR+ on auto GCam takes only 1 image and analyses limited amount of data. Just a theory. :D
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] raphy3:
It appears to be streaming data from the camera constantly, and then just uses the most recent few frames before and after the shot. With hdr+ enhanced, it appears to grab frames right then and there, expecting that you'll hold the camera still. With normal hdr+, I'm guessing they are trying to bring the same idea to rapid point and shoot with minimal blur, so it has to use much fewer frames to get the job done. Btw, burst mode looks horrible for me!

That makes sense. I'll see if I can get hdr+ to stick with "on". Interestingly, hdr enhanced only shows up if I force the button to appear using the advanced menu. So if you go with the default settings it seems hdr enhanced will not be used.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] vitoski:
Yes indeed, the HDR+ button appears only when you activate it within the Advanced settings. Only then you can use Enhanced HDR+ mode.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mohsen_alinezhad:
Developer settings

Can anybody explain the settings in the developer option?

The google camera is awesome and it surely changed my opinion about LG G6 photography. the difference is night and day.

But stock camera's zoom is much clearer.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mohsen_alinezhad:
I get the best results with google camv4

The colors are nearer to reality . the purple tint is minimum . and everything is satisfying.

My settings are:

Model: nexus6p

Nexus 2015

Config camera: nexus6 hdr+ auto

Buffer size: 32

Total imagereader: 52

Hdr+ burstframe: 12

Calculation hdr+: allexpconfig

The hdr+ processing takes much longer in low light but I have no problem with that

:fingers-crossed:
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] aledex:
I tried v5 in low-light conditions, with different setups, and in my opinion it's much worse than v4.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jack-black:
I noticed with LG G6 that HDR+ heavily underexposes images. Especially in low light conditions. Maybe it's about correct settings.. What's your experience?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] The-Last-Hylian:
I don't understand any of this, I have an older verison installed, need to install the new version.

---------- Post added at 03:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:23 PM ----------

So far what are the best settings for the G6?

This is all over my head, came back to this after a while and now there are different settings you can use?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jonathanbarreto:
Which device did you test these settings for?:rolleyes:
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gabbbbbbb:
We are in the G6 thread & also the purple tint is a G6 specialty. (because the raws have very unusual purple color noise)
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mohsen_alinezhad:
Lg g6 h870s
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] billyx1:
I had a problem with the (I think) metadata of the picture: Some photos I have taken with the Google camera doesn't use the correct orientation when displaying them.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] antimatter.web:
Hey guys - is it not necessary to edit build.prop to add persist.camera.HAL3.enabled?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gabbbbbbb:
No
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
B-S-G's Modded Google Camera 5.1.014 with HDR+ for Android 7.0 / ARM64 v1.4 All-in-One Full Manual

Download

Changelog:

Added all camera configs except two with portrait mode that probably require Android 8.0+

On the last three camera configs (Pixel Experimental / 2016 / 2017) auto focus doesn't work after using touch focus

Added HDR+ JPEG quality setting

New settings take effect after application is restarted

Must clear data / cache after installation and if the app force closes
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] kabirjedi:
Thank you!

ALL set Max quality purple tint here.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] KingFatty:
Well I really like the following settings, but this is only the 2nd combination I tried. The initial default settings (after you clear the cache/data and restart) worked OK but a little noisy.

So I tried the following settings and force quit/restarted the app, and these new settings got rid of much of the noise and things looked really good/crisp, but I have no idea if there is any tint (I didn't notice it on my phone screen, but haven't checked on big display). I'm happy enough with these settings and haven't tried anything else, but maybe there is another combination even better?

Model: Nexus 6P

Config camera HDR+: NEXUS 6P

HDR+ parameters: Super High

Final jpg quality HDR+: 90% (NOTE: this jpg quality setting is just my personal preference to sacrifice some quality to reduce the image file size a bit, I don't think it would be a problem to increase this however you like)
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] BR7fan:
Here is a picture with gc 5.1. I think it does a good job
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beagle82:
Care to share your settings?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] BR7fan:
Nexus 6P

Pixel (very high)

HDR+ -VERY high
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mohsen_alinezhad:
The pictures are sharp and nice. But I get blurry portrait. The camera cannot focus on the face. Anyone else have this issue?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Sid@developer:
Why is Lens Blur very dark in indoor and low light pics...compared to normal mode ?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mohsen_alinezhad:
Problem in focusing persons faces.

Like all v5 there are colored dots in dark spots

My settings for v4 still giving me most pleasent results.

(Kinda new here, i can't attach pics in my post.I'm Using google chrome on my lgg6.)
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kisakuku:
B-S-G's Modded Google Camera 5.1.014 with HDR+ for Android 7.0 / ARM64 v1.5 All-in-One Full Manual

Download

Changelog:

Added RAW compression toggle

Increased the Very High and Super High settings for HDR+ parameters

Super High HDR+ now takes a long time to process

New settings take effect after application is restarted

Must clear data / cache after installation and if the app force closes
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] jack-black:
care to share v4 settings that give you better results than v5?
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cryptecks:
He posted them not too long ago. For what it's worth, I agree. v4 is far better for the G6 (this is XDA, we're in the G6 forums, it's safe to assume most people are wanting G6 preferences/settings).

https://xdaforums.com/lg-g6/how-to/google-camera-hdr-ported-g6-t3655374/post74359319#post74359319
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] vitoski:
With Pixel(corr) set as Model in v4, don't you get incorrect colors, especially in the low light conditions?

Recently I was testing version 3,2 vs 4 vs 5 and only with Nexus Models I was getting proper colors - no bluish or pink tint.
[LG G6 Guides, News, & Discussion] partner22:
Same here, pixel corrl seems a bit bluish. Four me it's a bit better pixel xl

Enviado desde mi LG-H870 mediante Tapatalk