[Android Head-Units] idlt:
Update .....and some thoughts

@ surfer63. Point taken....I realize I was been lazy. Please accept my sincere apology for taking all the work you guys do for granted.

I don't have much to contribute but here is an update on my issue and also some thoughts on what to do in order to be able to enjoy the best of both worlds _Reliability and function_ in a car radio experience.

BTW. I ripped out my very expensive but very restrictive factory rocford fosgate navigation/camera/Bluetooth/overhead console/back up sensor/ infrared headphone ..blah, blah, blah system in order to install this one, so I had high hopes that I could get this to at least function somewhat reliably but I've been driving for two weeks without a radio or Bluetooth for my phone.

anyway...

Joying USA finally came through with a solution. They offered to send me a 6021 to replace my most likely burned out 5009 unit _new one is on the way_

I had to pay shipping and I was charged $300.00 for the unit but I will be refunded $200.00 when I send the other one back. I'm happy that at least I will have a radio again and have learned my lesson about how real a Chinese warranty is. I hope I wont have any problems getting my $200.00 refund ( I have only used the old radio for about 2 weeks before it burned out)

I chose to "upgrade" to the 6021 _ It would be the same cost for either unit _ because I was told it is more stable after the re-design of the main board and the LCD board. I'm hoping that the overheating issue will be less of a problem with this one although I read reports to the contrary....

I also took surfer63's advise and read up a little and I now know that there is no way to rely on a Chinese android unit to replace a factory head-unit or even a brand name one for that matter because the stability is not there yet (my opinion). We should probably be thankful though that at least Joying and others are not afraid to try and provide this alternative.

I also read up on all the newest high end brand name head-units and nothing has changed since last time I looked. They are all crippled, restrictive and proprietary for the most part when it comes to peripherals. They offer really good sound quality but the ones with the most features also suffer from software and hardware glitches though less frequent than the Chinese ones. The Chinese android units do offer a glimpse into the future but my experience is that they are not at all reliable or fully functional. I believe that in a car environment the most important functions are ease of use, radio reception and phone/Bluetooth quality and reliability (terrestrial radio is still more reliable than internet radio for people that want to listen to the news or traffic updates or local events and such...) . Once that's covered then I guess sound quality, internet connectivity for online content, online navigation and voice commands as well as other similar features become important.

I don't think there is one single head-unit out there that covers all that but maybe not all hope is lost.

My solution is to purchase a single din head-unit with a reliable radio, good sound quality, stellar quality hands-free phone Bluetooth function and maybe USB phone connectivity. I have a spare space in my console so I will install that in there and install the Joying unit _or the next android experiment_on the double din space above. If space is not available on the console one could probably hide it in the glove-box or under the dash.

when the Joying dies again _notice I wrote "when" not if... I can revert back to the simple one until I replace it with the next upgrade or maybe with a tablet. They now make some nice built in mounts for them https://soundmanca.com/

I haven't had time to research the single din unit yet but it most likely will be one of the major brands. maybe this one https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-DEH-...ud-20&linkId=644693c89a21ea33f675e3023ce5cc4b

I will try to figure out a way to make them both work through the same amplifier and be able to use the hands free function on the single din one, navigation and backup camera on the android and have the choice to play music from either one. I'm not sure how to do that yet but looking into it now. Maybe I can use the Aux input or another "source" input on the single din one which could also be wired to the factory steering wheel controls so that when I answer the phone the AUX switches off and the hands free takes over. I think when the phone call ends it would have to switch back to AUX . I will try to update this post when I figure this out and in the mean time I welcome any thoughts or suggestions

Thank you all for your support