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[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] schmeggy929:
Another comparison with the HTC U 11 is the most over used internet game going around. Im pretty sure nothing is easier than an easy short squeeze for a screenshot, mind you there are 2 additional ways to take a screenshot(stock that is). Many of your - points don't seem to make sense as you really don't know how to use the phone.

No vibrate toggle There is an App for that

- No cast toggle " same App

- No screenshot toggle 3 different ways to use + there is an App for that

- Touchscreen too sensitive (had to disable keyboard glide typing) Don't have this issue.

- Touchscreen seems unreliable (sometimes my taps don't register, so I have to switch hands; may be caused by sweat, so related to previous point) Nothing wrong with my touchscreen

- Prone to hit app switch button when swiping down on right (e.g., while playing Onirim) Do you mean Recent Apps? hardly ever

- Weak or wonky Wi-Fi (placed U11 next to P2 and U11 was not able to connect while P2 had stable connection) Wifi is great here 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz

- BoomSound mode notification would sometimes show Yes when it detects sounds out of speakers, that correct

- Location disabled icon always displayed Not here ROM takes care of that

- No built-in app cloning (Parallel Space can't clone Skype Lite) what?

- Doesn't last as long (not even close) As in Battery Life or Phone Life? Stop kidding yourself, battery life is awesome

- No headphone jack Bluetooth earphones work great

- Slippery in the hands (like a bar of soap) girlie hands?

- No physical switch to convert into dumbphone (prolly my fav feature on P2) Um no one wants a dumbphone

- Blacks are not as black (P2 is Super AMOLED) A nice feature of Kernel called Advanced Color Control

- Only one SIM slot (you won't appreciate this until you go abroad) 95% of phones only have one SIM

- You have to unlock the phone to dismiss the alarm (don't have the P2 with me now to confirm whether it's an Android thing) Um no you don't

- The power button and volume rocker are way too stiff (on the P2 the home button is too stiff) Stiff is better than loose and flimsy

- No call block management in dialer Google Dialer

- No vibrate on call connect option Yes there is yet again
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
In a blind test I can tell the SD 820 from the SD 835 - the U11 blows away my 10. I would definitely notice the 625 in a heartbeat.

Screenshot toggle is a useless gimmick. One of the pettiest cons I've ever seen and I take screenshots about a hundred times more than I use my camera. Power + volume down has been the standard forever, I don't see any need to improve it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Sashtheflash:
You can even Set Up Edge Sense for that... Never read such bs...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] ibolito:
These kind of posts remind me of what Samsung used to do years ago, when HTC was number one in the US and number 3 in the world (2011 or 2012 I think) : they were reportedly paying people to write fake, bad, biased reviews about HTC phones (and it worked, only the One M9 was a crappy phone, but anyway people stopped buying HTC phones before that) . Seems like the overall quality of the U11, which beats the S8 in every aspects (except the screen to body ratio) made Samsung go back to their old strategy.

And I dare someone to show me one phone, even in one app, Android or iPhone, which is smoother, more fluid than the U11.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] fr0st420:
The difference between the U Ultra and U11 was night and day for me.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 10basetom:
Wait, I thought u guys stopped reading after "no screenshot toggle"? O_o Guess not. While I appreciate u taking the time & effort to reply (twice), u didn't really need to since I don't put too much worth in words from overreactive fanboys.

I stand by every bullet point as I have used both phones on a daily basis (have u?) and found the U11 wholely underwhelming (at least now I know what the U stands for ;)). If u don't like my list then go create ur own 100-point list of why the U11 blows away every other phone.

Btw, no screenshot toggle is probably the least of my worries -- the most annoying aspects for me are the overly sensitive touchscreen sensor (which made me lose a PvZ Heroes battle more than once) and the wonky Wi-Fi reception. And if screenshot toggles are my thing, so be it; if installing gaudy themes is ur fetish, that's fine too but it wouldn't even register a 2nd thought with me much less a defensive reply.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 10basetom:
I just thought of a new positive:

+ Night mode automatically turns off in the morning (on the P2 u had to manually turn it off)

See, it's not all negatives (if u had let the fanboy rage subside and read the rest of the list you'll see that it's about half negatives and half positives). I'll keep updating this list as I use the U11 more.

Fyi I'm not even an HTC hater -- I have probably used HTC phones (Titan and Mogul) before u kids even knew what HTC was.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] OMJ:
looks like you're just talkin to yerself now lol
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
Most of your complaints can be fixed pretty easily. I'll agree on the sensitivity of the touch screen but that can be addressed in a software update.

And I've been using HTC since the Apache in 2006, I'm 31, not a "kid," I just think you're nitpicking too much and it's a ridiculous assertion to claim the SD 625 is anywhere close to the SD 835, especially when using a single game that is known to have performance issues across the board as your reasoning. The 835 is about 2x faster than the 625 in most scenarios, higher in others. It also supports UFS 2.1 - go install a big app on both devices and see which one is done first. The U11 just flies through everything.

I've been incredibly happy with the Wi-Fi performance of this device, it's crazy fast and stable for me so I don't know what your issue is.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 10basetom:
Nah I'm updating my experience with the U11 as I use it more so prospective buyers can make their own judgement. All the expected flametards are easily ignored so it's all good. I'll make this thread a journal of my personal journey with my new phone that I'm unfortunately stuck with unless I leave Sprint.

Speaking of which, I just thought of another annoyance with the U11: the capacitive button lights that stay on for three seconds. Seriously, who came up with this brilliant idea? By the time the buttons are lit u will have already found the buttons in the dark. And the buttons are back to being invisible again before the blink of an eye. The more sensible approach would be to add an option to automatically turn on the button lights (and keep them on) when it's dark like on most lighted laptop keyboards.

Back to that touchscreen sensor -- it needs some serious recalibration. It's possible that I have a buggy unit, but so far the U11 doesn't feel like the savior that HTC needs. Shame because they were great back in the Diamond days.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] mrrflagg:
I noticed the difference between my tweaked 10 and stock u11 as soon as I used it and am still amazed. Also for screenshot power + home/fingerprint scanner works too

I really don't think the OP has any idea how to use this beast AT ALL. He probably should have used it a while before putting this up
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
I agree completely. I haven't even rooted it yet. I just haven't had any real complaints with out of the box performance. This is the first time I've owned a device for a month and not had a strong desire for root - most phones I root them as soon as I take them out of the box...
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 10basetom:
"I noticed the difference between my tweaked 10 and stock u11 as soon as I used it and am still amazed." -- then u r better than me or have Spidey senses bc I cannot tell the difference between my P2 and U11 in everyday usage, and I doubt the avg user would either (unless u r looking out for a speed bump). Who knows, maybe the P2 is just super optimized. Try to get ur hands on one and see for yourself.

"I really don't think the OP has any idea how to use this beast AT ALL." -- ok, the fact that u r calling the U11 a beast means I can't argue with u. Should u maybe ask how I use screenshots b4 making some galaxy-sized assumptions? Nm I'll fill u in: I can have up to 4 phones on a table and it takes me a split second to swipe down & tap using one finger vs. using two hands to pick up each phone to do VD+P, where each phone has buttons in different locations (and U11's STIFF buttons don't help at all). Also, if u don't press VD+P fast enough u can lock ur phone and miss that screenshot opportunity, then have to waste ur time to get back to what u wanted to capture (e.g., while gaming).

P2 even let's me crop the screenshot b4 saving the image. I guess it's one of those things where u won't "get" it unless u use it on a Chinese phone for awhile. But why r we still stuck on screenshot toggle?? Like I said, it's the least of my concerns.

Do u guys have ur heads in the sand about the whacked touch sensor or weak Wi-Fi reception when two rooms away from the router? At least someone tell me I have a lemon bc I can't be the only one experiencing this.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] miffymiffy:
I have to say, my Wifi signal is amazing. I get signal at neighbors houses when I could never before on my M8 (30-40metres away). Possibly you have a lemon in that regard.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
Agreed. I get 5GHz at full strength in the basement. It's the only device in the house that has not only a usable 5Ghz connection down there but it's only about a 15% speed loss compared to being in my room. I forgot to turn off the Wi-Fi when I went to go get the mail the other day and I was playing Monster Super League and I got halfway down the block before it dropped the connection and moved to LTE.

It definitely sounds like a defective phone.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 10basetom:
At first I thought it was bc I was two rooms away, but when I put the P2 next to the U11 and it was able to connect with 1/3 strength where the U11 failed to connect, I knew something was up. Most Chinese phones that I've used had inferior Wi-Fi (and GPS) performance than mainstream phones, but this is the first case where it's not. I dunno, maybe the U11 just hates my router lol.

In any case, I'm almost a month into my U11 journey and I'm getting more used to it. I may replace HTC Sense with Nova or install CFW down the road.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEndHK:
I'll like to add that this review is very ridiculous and full of misleading information as other mentioned here. Should close this thread.

It's my first time to hear Lenovo UI is good, it is rated one of the worst in Android world. HTC sense is now quite close to AOSP so probably some functions are missing but instead we received a faster speed.

It's very funny SD625 as fast as SD835. I owned Z1c/Z3c/Z5c, LG G3 and Galaxy S6. My U11 blow them away very easily in terms of speed and smoothness. Touch screen was too sensitive in my old rom and now seems much better after OTA. Battery is very good during use at the same level of Z1c/Z3c but idle does battery draining and waiting for patch fix. Got no issue with Wifi AC 5G and I'm using Linksys EA7500, it might be your router got some compatible problem with U11 but definitely no problem at all here.

Any flagship is expensive and you should not expect it as value as low to medium price range of phone but we got best camera on flagship and take decent photo/video and got good memory with it, this reason already worth the price point except you never shoot any serious photo/video in your life and if so, yes, you probably just need a cheap phone.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 10basetom:
The flame is strong in this one. Get a P2 then we'll talk, otherwise u r comparing apples to oranges. Fyi P2 has almost stock ROM; it's not the same skin as my K900 or Vibe X2.

If I wanna shoot "serious photo" I'll bring my DSLR and tripod. Like I said, camera phone is not a high priority for me, but if it is for u then more power to ya, but don't try to censor me bc my views differ from urs.

There is no misleading information to be found unless u think XDA readers r idiots and can't make their own decisions. Every bullet point on my list is a fact from first-hand experience, and u can't argue with facts. (Update: ok I reread the list and some of the positives r subjective e.g. "U11 looks better" and "Edge Sense makes a lot of sense"; someone else might prefer P2's metal back over glass or they may think Edge Sense is a gimmick.)

P.S. For those about to jump the gun, by "bullet point" I mean the list items prefixed by - and +. The paragraph below about performance is obviously subjective.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEndHK:
Don't try to play in this way man. We aren't idiots like you mentioned, by revealing some little facts to try to argue or defense with big facts isn't mature and only kids will do it on forum.

Even Lenovo is going to give up his existing UI and their new devices will get new UI in the future. I can only say HTC isn't suitable for you bcoz no perfect phone there.

Again. Don't try to provide false information. I was talking about serious living photo with camera phone like everyone does today. If you want professional photo, yes, a DSLR is much more better. And if you like to bring it out every day, you're probably the 1% or less population. I can see HTC isn't suitable for you now.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
What exactly were you expecting coming in the forum for the U11 and slinging mud? If the U11 had all these issues you allege, a lot of us would have sent them back. I know I certainly wouldn't keep a phone that cost me 627 with tax if it wasn't absolutely flawless.

You asked for the flames when you came in here and dumped this thread right in the general discussion about the device and I have hard time believing that you weren't already aware of that when you posted it. The entire tone of your "comparison" and your responses to all of us who have challenged you on your so-called "bullet points" suggests that you are just trying to get people riled up.

We like our devices. If you don't like yours, find your way to Swappa and get something that suits you but you can't come in to the U11 forum and make a thread like this one and then get upset when you get flamed. Nobody is forcing you to keep the device, there's always a way out. It sounds like flagships just aren't for you and that's perfectly reasonable but making a thread on a discussion forum and expecting it to go your way isn't going to happen.

You claim that we are trying to censor you but you're the one trying to censor us. Every time something is refuted, your defense is "go use a P2" which isn't a defense at all. If we were interested in crappy phones, we wouldn't have a U11.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 10basetom:
Recently I've been getting this "If Wi-Fi isn't working, try opening your browser to connect" toast very frequently. I'm not sure if this is an Android 7.1.1 or HTC Sense "feature", but it's annoying as hell. The P2 has Android 7.0.0 and I never saw this toast.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
You're obviously having Wi-Fi problems. As has been said multiple times. Try another router or exchange the phone because you aren't having normal behavior. Once in a while if I'm using Google Now to search, it tells me it's offline and follows immediately with a toast that says the search is complete but nothing else gives me any problems so I just attribute it to Google Now weirdness.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] grentuu:
if I buy something and it has say 1 minor niggle, I might put up with it, if other areas compensated for it. The same might apply to 2 minor niggles.

But Christ, if I could put together a list like this flaming the device, I wouldn't post until I had either sold, smashed, burned or given it away.

I have 2.4 and 5ghz router and a large garden back and front as well as 3 storeys. I don't lose signal anywhere in the house and have to walk a good 30 metres plus down the road before it switched to LTE/4G. There has to be an issue with your handset.

But I have to question why on earth you are putting up with such an inferior device? Just get rid, buy a samsung and go and flame over there.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 10basetom:
It wasn't my choice. Sprint replaced my damaged HTC Mogul from 2008 (which I loved btw) with this phone. It's not a bad phone, but it's not extraordinary either, and HTC needs a hero phone to bring it back to relevance.

"But I have to question why on earth you are putting up with such an inferior device? Just get rid, buy a samsung and go and flame over there." -- I will sell this phone when the Pixel 2 XL is released so I can move to Project Fi, but for now I'm documenting my experience on here. Ur definition of flaming seems different from mine. I would be flaming if I say "HTC is the worst company in the world and everyone who uses HTC phones r losers". But I'm not saying these things :).
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
You're coming from a Mogul and you're complaining? I had the Mogul and if I was stuck with that thing all this time, a Samsung Galaxy S with its Hummingbird chipset and pentile matrix AMOLED 480x800 screen would impress me...

I hope your Wi-Fi comparisons are not going by the bars on the screen. Everyone knows those are calibrated differently by different companies. I've had my U11 drop to 1 bar and still have usable Wi-Fi some distance away from the house. Unlike my 10, my U11 loves my ASUS RT-AC68U. My phone picks up its 5GHz signal further away from the house than I would have thought possible.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] Alpert3:
Looks like we share some points. So I'll make it short.

The touchscreen problem seems happen to some devices, and I heard 1.27/1.26 OTA update solved it.

And lots of points related to Sprint variant, if yours was a unlocked version you'll save much energy to deal with the pains. Such as location disabled icon, single sim slot, and the phone connection vibration. The vibration is automatic, no settings available. Looks like Sprint version passed it.

To disable the alarm in software way, for mine U11, I just drag the red cross upwards when it's ringing then it's disabled, without unlock the screen. I don't know if Sprint version is also different on this one...

At last, hope you can receive 1.26/1.27 update sooner, it will solve some problems and add more functions.

Cheers.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 3lMghraby:
you can squeeze to take a screenshot xD
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 10basetom:
Thx so much for the info ^_^. U r right about swiping up on Dismiss -- I just tried it and it worked! It's similar to taking a call: initially I wasn't able to answer calls from my lock screen until I found out u had to swipe up on Answer.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 10basetom:
For those not on Sprint, here's a screenshot of the BoomSound mode notification, which seems to pop up whenever I open an app that has sound:

The icon is 2nd from left (also notice the GPS disabled icon):

When u enable GPS, two duplicate icons r shown, then one goes away:

The coding can be improved here.
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] OMJ:
Unfortunately Sprint has always insisted on the persistent gps icon, that's always the 1st thing I remove when modifying/debloating the rom
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
The persistent Boomsound icon when sound is playing is meant to make it easy to change the sound based on the content. I can see how the icon can be irritating but I usually have so many up there that it doesn't bother me in the slightest anymore. Then again I've had the M7, M8, and the 10 so I'm kind of used to it. Changing it from music to theater and vice versa can have a moderate impact on the sound quality though so having a quick toggle to play with isn't a big deal to me. It's especially useful on YouTube which for some reason is insanely quiet for me on music mode in a lot of videos (an annoyance that has existed since the M7 - using the mobile site is normally louder than using the app but swapping between music and theater tends to offset that probably 90% of the time - obviously music sounds horrendous in theater mode but theater mode is great for watching reviews and such which is what I primarily use YouTube for).
[HTC U11  Guides, News, & Discussion] 10basetom:
Hi guys, thought of another thing missing from the U11: FM radio. However, word is it's supposed to be activated soon:

https://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-u11/805927-fm-radio-sprint-version-per-sp.html
[Moto Z2 Play  Questions & Answers] eexit:
Hi there,

I just got my Moto Z2 Play and as I'm still in the transition from my previous Moto X (1st gen), I noticed the difference of contrast between the 2 devices while neither has a screen protection.

The Z2 Play seems to have shallower darks on my Instagram.

- Moto X: HD Super AMOLED @ 316PPI & RGB S-Stripe

- Moto Z2 Play (assuming it's the same screen as Moto Z Play): Full HD Super AMOLED @ 401PPI & RGBG PenTile

Do you think this could come from the matrix family or maybe different color profile in the OS? Moto X is 5.1 while Z2 Play is 7.1.1.

Do you guys have a process to compare efficiently the colors accuracy/contrasts? My Moto X seems to have deeper blacks and I like it this way.

Thanks!
[General Topics] s.chao:
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[General Topics] wizardragon:
I have been using them for a while now and it works quite well with a few exceptions.

If you have access to a landline it also offers 0800 options for many numbers too.

I had problems calling post offices and the DVLA with it, and also once a bank etc finds someone has found a way of calling them and bypassing a number that makes them revenue to keep you waiting - they often change the number.

But I would say always worth a try regardless of this.