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[Galaxy Tab S General] Akopps:
The 4:3 screen is better for almost every application other than video. I can consider buying the S3 if its price drops in future. Samsung's prices are ridiculous. Right now Apple's tablets like the iPad 2017 and the entry level iPad Pro regularly go on sale for 300 and 350USD respectively at the Best Buy while the Tab S3 starts at 500USD (why?). All of my relatives got a large screen iPad recently. Only I am hanging onto an Android right now.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
I use my 10.5" for video mostly, and if i wanted i could turn my tablet to portrait mode and fit a lot more webpage on screen than an 4:3 screen.

If i wanted a tablet for drawing/text or internet browsingi would never buy a tablet with an oled display as they eat the battery when showing white and light colours, when an lcd display uses exactly the same amount of power whatever is on the screen.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
I bought the Tab S when it first came out as it was the best you could buy at the time.

It's a great device and still more powerful than some devices released today.

The spec is high and I've never had an issue with the size of memory.

The screen is unreal and the tablet itself looks superb.

However I have 2 other Samsung tablets, a 7 inch tab A and A 9.7 Tab A.

Tbh I use the Tab A's now more than the Tab S. I've come round to the 4:3 format, it's just better for most things and easier to hold in that format and better weighted.

I've never used the Tab S to its full potential, so it's probably overkill for me. The Tab A is much lower spec and the screen is nowhere near as good.

For media though the Tab S is still the best out there and I've never had a single issue with it.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Eddie Hicks:
You sound a lot like me. Before I get up every morning I grab my Tab S 10.5 and read the news, check my notifications and check some forums. Since it's my only tablet I do use it when I travel, but only on the plane and hotel room.

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If you hold your Tab S in portrait position isn't it like 4:3 but a little taller?
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
I use my Tab 10.5" in bed before i go to sleep, I check for app updates, watch an Anime episode or two, and finally i use listen to an ebook using google text to speech.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
Not quite, it's weighted differently. It's more comfortable to hold the Tab A and its lighter, or seems it.

Also the Tab S doesn't like scrolling in portrait mode as it's not native and produces a warping effect.

Plus the buttons would be in the wrong position.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
No idea on actual release date, but upload date according to updato is January 23 2017.
[Galaxy Tab S General] E--Man:
Nice, I'll try to find out some more info soon and post back.

Anyone else have a Stock T805W and gotten the OTA Android 6+?

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[Galaxy Tab S General] gts84:
my T705 is been 3 years. bought it June 2015 still solid till now

currently i'm running on Kitkat

is there anyway i could upgrade it to Marshmallow? any tutorial guys?
[Galaxy Tab S General] DaWeav:
Well, they just released the specs for the Tab S4, but it's a total failure for me! So, it looks like I'll be using my Tab S1 for a lot longer while I'm looking at what other manufactures have available, including iPad, since I don't want a $650 for a device without a fingerprint reader/sensor. Their facial unlock is proprietary and I'm sure none of my financial apps and other apps I use fingerprint login will even support that. Oh well, no fingerprint, no sale to me! Sheesh...
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
Just to start the S1 T805 is slightly smaller and thinner and lighter than the new S4
[Galaxy Tab S General] slow1234:
The replacement battery has been great. Back to having almost 2.5x as much screen on time.
[Galaxy Tab S General] chickschecker:
My tab S T805 is about 4 years old.

Which costum ROM has the best performance?

I don't need any special things.

My device is unrooted
[Galaxy Tab S General] E--Man:
Hi [MENTION=4899305]ashyx[/MENTION], I looked into it and it looks like my best option to install a Stock Samsung official marshmallow ROM is the UK version without the modem and sboot partitions for my Canada Rogers T805W.

However, for security reasons I can inly flash ROMs from *official* sources to ensure nothing has been modified. Does Samsung publish the checksums of the ROMS somewhere so that I can validate that the ROM I download from updateo.com or SamMobile or Samsung-updates.com is pure/genuine?

Alternatively, there used to be a program called SamFirm which used to be able to download directly from Samsung servers but unfortunately that program is now defunct. Any way to do this nowadays?

Another alternative would be to generate or acquire an official OTA link, is that possible?

Thanks.

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[Galaxy Tab S General] mertmag:
How old?

I got my T800 when they first came out and had a 32 gb at BestBuy. Still works great but I had to change the battery and I scratched the bezel poping it off. I would get a new one but the screen is so much better than the newer ones.
[Galaxy Tab S General] lefti696:
I have a stock T700 and today to my surprise I got update notification :) wandering what forced Samsung to update something :)

Wysłane z mojego SM-T700 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy Tab S General] Too51oll:
Heve you updated? What's the software version?
[Galaxy Tab S General] lefti696:
Sure but nothing special there.

Wysłane z mojego SM-T700 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy Tab S General] Akopps:
Three years and nine months since the date of purchase. The franken tablet is ok (I broke and repaired some parts), but it now looks like the battery is failing. When I suspend the tablet with only 20-25% of charge and come back later, it's turned off and showing 0% of charge. If I plug the charger and turn it on immediately, I see 20-20% of charge. I think it's a tell tale sign of a failing battery. I have seen something like this happen on an iphones too. The mobile batteries don't last long, maybe 3-5 years. These things happen, and eventually need to start making plans to replace your computing device. Anyways I own another Tab S with a broken screen which I use for spare parts, so I'll try transplanting the battery from there, and see what happens.

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Actually, there is something special there. It says August 2017 security patch level. As far as I know, the last security patch level our tablets received was from November 2016 or so, and Samsung pushed the USA version as late as May 2017. This is good news for people who care about the security updates. I am afraid though that August 2017 security patch level still may not fix the KRACK Wi-Fi vulnerability.
[Galaxy Tab S General] E--Man:
Is it true that the UK version has a working phone dialer?

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[Galaxy Tab S General] j1gga84:
There are not much custom ROMs for T805, search for Resurrection Remix 5.8.5 or LineageOS 14.1,

I personally would choose RR 5.8.5, using it for a long time :)

regards
[Galaxy Tab S General] jappaj:
My 3 year old S1 finally broke. It did suffer few drops to the ground and screen started to flicker as hell after a while and then it reboots or freezes. I did re-flow battery connector, but sadly no help. I really really liked my S1 so I am thinking about buying another one. New tables may be more powerful but ever since I watched 2k AMOLED, I just cannot go back...

I went to local store to see MediaPad M5 and while nice, screen just did not look as vibrant as my S1 and seems there are really nothing like S1 except S4 which is wayyyyyyyyy too expensive...
[Galaxy Tab S General] Vertron123:
Why don't you have a look at the Alldocube X tablet? It's cheap and has a 10.5 inch Samsung AMOLED screen like the S1. It's $219 on Indiegogo.
[Galaxy Tab S General] jappaj:
Interesting, did not know about it. I'll follow this closely and may participate just for fun. Thanks for the tip!

Meanwhile, I just was able to locally buy near mint used Tab S1 for EUR 150. A tad expensive, but at least it was in very good shape. There were and still is one NOS unit available from eBay but price was a bit steep (EUR 350 delivered) so had to skip it (I'd rather buy that MediaPad M5 10 for EUR 400, at least it has brand new battery, latest OS and everything).

When I will find some time (and reflow owen) I think I'll try to re-flow the motherboard of my dead S1. Who knows, just maybe that will fix it.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
Shove it in the oven in the kitchen, nothing to lose.

Fixed a few boards this way. ;)

Or buy a hot air rework station. Don't really cost much on Ebay.
[Galaxy Tab S General] j1gga84:
I had the same issue with my Tab S (T805) but after nearly 4 years of using..

I replaced the whole battery, display flex cable but nothing helps, the screen flickering gets worse and worse so I bought a "new" used

Tab S for around 160$, a replacement of the (touch) screen would have cost over 280$ and I don't have the money for a brand new Tab, such as the upcoming Tab S4, maybe later :good:

How should that fix a damaged/broken motherboard? :laugh:

regards
[Galaxy Tab S General] jappaj:
Heat will re-flow all solder joints and quite often problems with hardware are due to cracked solder joints - especially when problem manifests itself only after device has been in use for a while and thus heated up. Solder joints can crack if there is external impact or from internal heat cycles (CPU and GPU heat, solder joints will expand, shrink, expand shrink etc.). Doesn't really matter where the heat is from; professional re-flow oven, kitchen oven, hot air rework station, etc. so putting motherboard to kitchen oven is actually valid advise (but only if you know what you are doing, how much heat is needed and how long etc, too much heat and you will instantly destroy whole mobo).

I may just do that when I have time. I do have hot air rework station also, I could use that as well, but oven is easier.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
Often solder joints become dry or the balls on surface mount chips lose contact with the board.

Heating the entire motherboard for 10mins in the oven at a temp that melts solder reflows the solder.

If you're going to scrap a motherboard anyway it's always worth a try or you can do it with a hot air rework station and reheat the chips etc.

Search on YouTube for reflowing motherboard in oven.
[Galaxy Tab S General] leonitis:
Old but still going strong

I had my tab since August 2014,I use it every day, I would be lost without my Tab, it's been running smoothly since the day that I bought it,I get 2 days out of one charge, I wish or hope that Samsung makes another 10.5 size tablet I have a tab S2VE, but I only use it while the tab S is on charge, I don't like the 4:3 aspect, I hope that my tab s keeps going for a long time
[Galaxy Tab S General] E--Man:
Did anyone from Canada receive this NEW Marshmallow update?

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3829007

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[Galaxy Tab S General] Sefirosu:
I have/had both. I used the biggest one in my classroom until the battery zonked out on me, so I had to replace it. I bought it refurbished for a significantly reduced price. It was apparently a returned model, but it worked amazingly well the entire time. This was my go to tablet for everything. It lasted me roughly 2 and half years until I eventually decided to factory reset it and customize it for one of my students who couldn't afford a computer for college so she could use it in class. I have had this one since about 2015 when my smaller one was stolen by one of my students. She is still using it to this day. I have been in the market for a newer style tablet for awhile.

My little one is starting to show its age. I got this one new in 2014 and it survived being stolen by one of my former students and returned when I sent out my GPS on its whereabouts and let the students know I was reporting it stolen to authorities. Regardless, is running on some descent mods and it allows me to do some good presentations in class. Alas, it is approaching the end of its life. The speed is starting to slow significantly and it is starting to have issues with newer programs I run on my computer. The battery is starting to go to, but I don't feel the need to replace it on this one. I use it mostly for remotes at home and in school. Games are atrocious on this now. I am actually planning on upgrading to the newer model.
[Galaxy Tab S General] chris_carr365:
Hi all,

I could purchase a 10.5 16gb Tab S for £100 (around $130usd), just wondering if this is worth it or not given it's age?

Cheers
[Galaxy Tab S General] ElsaReyes:
It is indeed worth it. The Tab S may be old, but in some regards it's still better then the S3 even.

I mean the S3 has the more powerful processor and other parts obviously, but the S has a 16:9 display while the S3 has a 4:3.

The screen resolution is also better on the tab S, being 2560x1600 while the S3 is 1536x2048.

The Tab S also wins in Pixel density which is 288ppi, while the S3 has 264ppi.

Obviously the camera is better on the S3, but then the S3 is also made mainly out of glass, while the S is not.

The S3 also comes with an S Pen which the S doesn't have. But the S has a more powerful battery, 7900mAh while S3 has 6000mAh.

Now as I said, the S3's processor is obviously better, so as such games play better, and you can also run games that are to powerful for the S to handle..

I know you weren't asking for a comparison between these two, just if the S is worth that amount, which I believe it very much is, so yes if you still can, for sure get it. I just wanted to show you how the Tab S while old is still better then it's newer counterparts despite the age. :3
[Galaxy Tab S General] dorpmuller:
Don't use mine that much. It is laggy bordering on unusable no matter which ROM I burn into it. Tried 'em all, so I' m not happy with mine. Been this way since I've had it.

Rich
[Galaxy Tab S General] Akopps:
I literally fried my tablet a year ago and decided it was worth to buy another one with a broken screen for spare parts for almost that price (it did have a board with 32GB which is nice to have). I think it was the right decision at that time, but the Tab S certainly has its limitations. The models with only 16GB of storage have very little spare space left after a while when you get to install a few essential apps from the app store. Unloading some of bigger files or downloads to sd card certainly helps with this. The other potential problem with the Tab S is that Marshmallow 6.0.1 is the last official Android release for it. MM is still usable OS because I haven't run into any app compatibility issues with it, and Touchwiz has its own split screen mode.

But I don't know about what I'd buy it today because there are a lot more new tablets to choose from that come with more recent Android. For example, the Huawei Mediapad M5 and M5 Lite.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
Imagine if when you got your battery replaced at an repair shop, they could replace the 16GB Flash with an 32GB version, I wonder if it`s just a matter of swapping the chips.
[Galaxy Tab S General] chris_carr365:
Someone managed years ago with a Nexus 5 : https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-5-hardware-modded-to-64gb-internal-storage-by-replacing-emmc/
[Galaxy Tab S General] Akopps:
There is an easier way than swapping the chips on the boards. Just replace the whole logic board. Since there used to be a 32GB T800 and T700, all you need to do is get hold of a 32GB logic board for your tablet and then follow a youtube video for instructions to replace it. However, one problem is that the logic boards for these tablets sold on ebay are ridiculously expensive.

For example, I see right now a 90 dollar asking price for a 16GB logic board. Say what? These things cost pennies for the smartphone boards when they're 3-4 year old. It's probably a proof to the fact that many Tab S owners want to hang onto these tablets as long as possible. It is a very good tablet in many ways, even in 2018.

I ended up paying about 110USD for a T800 with 32GB storage logic board and a broken screen. I transplanted the logic board into my 16GB T800, and will use the other tablet for spare parts, like the battery when I need it.
[Galaxy Tab S General] york824:
I just ordered a 32gb LTE version 8.4 inch in mint condition for about $100. The main reason is that this is the best screen that kind of money can get. Also it is very lightweight, and has Lineage OS support. I plan to use it for web browsing, comic reading, and some video streaming while in bed. The CPU power is my main concern but I assume as long as I don't run games or some heavy apps I should be fine with its performance.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Soapm:
I've had the 8.4 since they came out in 2014, I rooted and loaded a custom image on it the day I got it and it's run fine since. The only updates I get are from play store but other than that I can't complain...
[Galaxy Tab S General] rolins:
My tablet is 3 years old with MM and I already notice that it is lageada and that it costs to do basic tasks such as surfing the Internet, writing emails and making documents.

I am sorry for my bad english ?
[Galaxy Tab S General] Akopps:
I just replaced the battery using a donor part from a broken T800. Seems to work good so far. The battery discharge is 10% or less per one hour of HD video play. It would be incredible if this tablet makes it into 2019.
[Galaxy Tab S General] rabellogp:
That tablet is truly making me wonder if there is any kind of "programmed underclock" embedded in its hardware or something... It's painfully slow to execute simple tasks like opening internet browser, switching between apps, searching something on Google Now or even opening the keyboard when I touch a textbox.

I've tested several roms. Lineage is good and it improves the performance but still it's nowhere near what it used to be 3 years ago when I bought it. I get it that all the apps have been updated since then with more features and all.. But if I install the original rom with the original apps I would expect it to be as fast as it originally was.. But it's not even close to that.
[Galaxy Tab S General] dorpmuller:
Mine's the same. It's so damned laggy I don't use it anymore. The usability is just no good. Tried 5 different roms.

Rich
[Galaxy Tab S General] gellmar:
Seversl people complain on such behavior regardless of ROM. It may be a NAND flash memory issue. Look at dmesg to see if there are long reads or read errors on mmc.
[Galaxy Tab S General] dorpmuller:
How do I do that? Not familiar.
[Galaxy Tab S General] gellmar:
Do adb shell dmesg while your tablet is attafched to PC with uSB cable and developer mode - ADB is turned on
[Galaxy Tab S General] dorpmuller:
OK, thanks, I'll give it a go when I can. Much appreciated!
[Galaxy Tab S General] nsew745:
The last time I was on the forum was January 2018. I still have my T807A. Since I was unable to load a custom rom, I uninstalled as much bloatware as it would allow.

I no longer have an AT&T account and do not use it to make calls. For all practical purposes, my Tab S is a Wi-Fi only device.

I really like the display. I use it for streaming videos, Mail, Here Wego mapping and navigation.

Is it possible now to root and load a custom ROM since I have no connection with AT&T?
[Galaxy Tab S General] Soapm:
Got my Tab S 8.4 when they first came out, it's still running strong though I use it 3 to 4 times per week.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
I have had my T800 10.5" for 4 years today, And it`s works just as well today as when i first bought it with no repairs or battery replacement.

I only watch video`s or read or do a quick browse of the internet so nothing strenuous.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Afinkawan:
My 8.4 is about 4 years old and used pretty much every day. I work away from home so when I'm away I use it most evening for watching Netflix/downloaded programs and a 4 hour journey home twice a week watching films on it or reading comics.

Only problem is it going a bit rubbish when the battery gets down to about 50% or lower. I changed the battery about half an hour ago and it's charging now so hopefully that's all it was.

I've tried a friend's S3 and it doesn't really seem any better than the S and I prefer the screen ratio on this one both for watching films and for reading comics.
[Galaxy Tab S General] sonnyjim77:
Tab s is about three and a half years old and it was going great but the last few days I have been getting the device overheating message and it closes apps, and on a few occasions it has shut itself off.

Any ideas/tips?
[Galaxy Tab S General] Tinderbox (UK):
Maybe one of your downloaded apps is heating your cpu up, try removing a few or do a reset.

Try a cpu cooler app they will let you know if any apps are causing problems when you find them uninstall them, remove the cooler app when you are done as they are usually full of adverts.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S General] idocinthebox:
Runs great! 5 years old T807T running the latest Liniage unofficial 14.1 (7.12) with the Deathly kernel and TWRP recovery on Google fi for data, Charge still lasts about 10 hours. With my Logitech keyboard case It subs for a laptop when I travel. The only problem I have is reboots when the radio switches carriers. This is a known issue and the developer is working on it. I wish There was more development for Our tab. The screen is so much better than the new ones. I have had no slow downs.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ClockerXP:
My Tab S Wifi SMT-800 still works great - I basically put a new ROM on it the day I got it. I think I got it in December 2014 as a refurb . I have the latest Lineage available on it 14.1 and it still works great, although a little slow at times. Battery is noticeably less than when it was new. I decided to get a Tab S4 since I wanted more battery life and the last Tab to have an actual headphone jack.

Anybody know how to return my SMT-800 to stock?? -- Thinking about selling it.
[Galaxy Tab S General] RXP:
Just over 5 years old last month! It was in very heavy use for its first 2-3 years of life. Then the Galaxy Tab Pro S (Windows 12" tablet) came along which became my main driver then a Galaxy Book 12.

I've had issues with it lagging to hell, same with the Tab S2. I have to factory reset it once in a while to get it to speed up - a simple partition/cache wipe doesn't work. I mostly use it for Emby/Plex/Netflix when I'm on holiday. The screen was really impressive - Samsung hasn't actually progressed much in the screens of their tablets. The new S4 or S6 basically has the same screen as the Tab S. It's only the software that manages HDR.

Now that I'm used to using MadVR/Equalizer APO/Waves NX for video/audio - it's hard to go back to a simple Android device so I'm going to keep this one as long as it works.
[Galaxy Tab S General] l4d3:
My T805 is 5 years old in a couple of days. I only use it for watching movies and series etc (flawlessly), and occasionally some sheet music. The battery is starting to get it, takes a week to charge it up full, but still lasts a whole day of heavy use when I unplug it! But for the most part it stays plugged in. I'm very impressed by this device. So much tablet for the money :laugh: Although I am looking for something new... The tablet, running RR android 7.1.2, is having a real hard time running some of my must-use apps (crashes, freezes, etc) and it's grinding on me. With the performance boost my pixel got when upgrading to android 9, I would love to see this happen with the Tab S. It might very well fix all my issues and squeeze in some extra years of use :)