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[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] 215Aphillyated:
Not sure if anyone had asked this yet,are we going to be able use xposed or anything of that nature
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] hazmad:
The dude says he's got a hookup. I'm perfectly happy with just root. If he's really got connections, let him make it happen.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] sabresfan:
For those worried about the 80% change http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/08/12/hands-battery-charge-limit-rooted-devices-exactly-expect/
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jokono421:
I understand we won't be able to put in a custom kernal. Is the current kernal capable of being altered/overcooked/undercooked using apps, like Mtweaks, kernal Auditor,or Spectrum etc. An I understand if your too busy just ignore ? If so. Also wondering if these are maybye one of the apps you said were giving issues.Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
except it doesnt work lol tried it already
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] XBlackChaosX:
I just thought of something... What if all the people asking for very technical explanations of the rooting process are actually Samsung trying to gather as much details as they can to get ready to patch? Lol

Also people please stop asking for bootloader and be grateful with what you'll be getting at the moment. The bootloader is a whole other beast and these devs are not occupying themselves with that at the moment. They are focused on cleaning up any quirks they are experiencing with root before release.

For people who hate the idea of your battery only being able to charge to 80% then just get a battery case for your S8/S8+ that should hold you out untill that issue is resolved
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] progro420:
From everything the devs have posted and continue to post. I really think this will be like root on the note 7. Personally haven't had a decent rooted device since then..

S7 edge to a note 7, then back to a s7. WE all know s7 was horrible rooted.

With all that said I am very happy to see root coming soon!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] phone dude:
Does this also apply if the phone is charged when the phone is powered down?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ReRuss:
I haven't seen it mentioned, but will SuperSu and binaries be able to get updated normally? I ask because the S7 (it seems to get mentioned a lot for root problems it seems lol) wasn't able to get the binaries to update normally. At least I've never gotten it to. Just curious if we're kinda stuck with whatever version is included.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
How will firmware updates work with this firmware, will we be stuck on this firmware or get patches to newer ones? 7.1.1 will be out soon, will that be rooted too?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] HighOnLinux:
Several major exploits which they may have used to obtain root, may be patched for the 7.1.1 update. So i'd reckon not to update if u want root still but long story short, 7.1.1 may take months to find a root method for it.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Delgoth:
I guess I will just have to wait and see how you guys managed it then. Because you are right, I do already have the permissive combo files for the Note 5 and the S6 Edge, and ENG Kernels/sboots to go with them.

I just haven't personally figured out the next step in the chain. I'm surprised though. If you have a Build with the ENG fingerprint and signed by the test key, there should be a lot possible with that.

I'd do a lot if someone could show me a firmware like that for the G925.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] partcyborg:
Except it's been said at least once already that no exploits were used to gain root :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] HighOnLinux:
Meh just something someone's gonna think of :) but they might have to find a workaround and some such possibly
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Atomix_Psycho:
So from what I read I can root the one I bought from Verizon? If so that is awesome! Good job guys!

Edit: is this for Android 7.0?

Idk of this matters but my bootloader is different

[IMG="Phone info"]https://imgur.com/Tp01cGC.jpg[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] sd_N:
Yeah. Really... It's either a yes or no question about being able to obtain them. ...not quips and questions back to the dev. Sorry...just had a long day myself.

Thanks elliwigy. Looking forward to you all release. If had had an unlocked bootloader for our device, I'd turn it over to you in a heartbeat. Lol. Thanks again
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLastSidekick:
Dev team is experienced, it is obvious. They know way beyond better than to release any PoC details or exploits before a mass exploit release. They're doing every thing 100% correct, they need not to be told how to conduct this. The OPSEC for obtaining the firmware I assume was also, sufficient.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] rtarv321:
With all of the publicity & cost for Samsung with the Note 7, it might be possible that the battery on the stock S8 Plus only charges to 80% & the meter shows 100%. Don't you think that they may have built in a little "inside security" for themselves. So, I not really worried about the battery %. It is what it is, be happy with the root, or stay stock!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] progro420:
You got a very very good point about the battery. It's very possible my eyes...
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Interceptor777:
Don't forget your tinfoil hat!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheLastSidekick:
Mods reading, is it possible to sticky this thread for maximum exposure? And possibly, close the old thread?

Edit : Thread closed. Thanks mods!
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bill10:
Sorry but no you don't lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] meathammer386:
How would you know if you dont have his setup
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDantee:
Could we get a Test Version for those willing to go through the hassle of all the steps and willing to except all its current faults?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Opensystem:
They're releasing it as a whole, when they're ready. I would link the relevant posts to show this, but really you can read pretty much....any page here.

You do realize an early release jeopardizes the whole thing right?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xshooter726:
They said they would release it with the the current 80% charge Bug so it may not be much longer for the full release. We might get a Sunday Fun day :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDantee:
How so... even if it was patched wouldn't you have to download that new samsung update to get the patch?

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@elliwigy Have you tried this method yet? https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...oid-device-avoid-excess-battery-wear-0176280/
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] sacnotsack:
It's been tried, there's a post a couple pages back
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDantee:
with that file set to 0 though?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
permissive combo files arent enough by themselves unless they have ro.secure 0 and some other settings

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ur good.. i have verizon lol

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i dont think that is the case at all seeing as how it wouldve been quickly identified and the masses would have been even more upset after the Fail7 and sammy would potentially have another recall or lawsuit on their handsfor false advertising lol

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yea, once its released for everybody u can test away
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Atomix_Psycho:
So my different bootloader code doesn't matter? If not, sweet. Verizon always manages to screw something up.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] lightninbug:
So just to clarify, this will work on the T-Mobile version correct?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] XBlackChaosX:
Dude he said you were good. That's it..... Case closed. If the ones that have rooted this tell you that your variant is good then your good no need to second guess. He has a Verizon S8......
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xak:
Which device has TWRP did you manage to get TWRP working on snapdragon. Saw you quoted but didn't see the questions to whom you were answering.

Good job on root. Its eng root but as long as it doesn't lag or overheat that is good s7 edge usa eng root lagged and overheated.

i saw some people say battery at 80% and some at 100% <- little confused on that part
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ReRuss:
Can SuperSU & binaries get an update or S7 situation and stuck with version included?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] XBlackChaosX:
If you would have read either this thread or the previous one you would know that only root has been accomplished, the bootloader is still locked and so with the bootloader currently locked there is no absolutely no way to flash a different recovery or roms, kernels etc, etc untill the bootloader is unlocked. Don't ask when it's gonna be unlocked because no one knows. The bootloader is a whole other beast and so the devs just wanna focus on root right now.

For reasons unknown (to me at least) the battery capacity is capped at 80% for the eng firmware. Elliwigy and team are hard at work trying to resolve this but if for whatever reason they can't as they've expressed that it's a tough problem than when they release it then the community are more than welcome to pitch in and find a solution.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Atomix_Psycho:
Never hurts to be clear... When only one part of the whole question is answered it's not bad to make sure ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] XBlackChaosX:
True but Elliwigy said that you were good and then stated that he himself has a Verizon S8, no offense but that's pretty clear to me man as it means that "ur good". He didn't answer one part of your question he answered both parts....no hard feelings I'm just typing it as it is.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xak:
First of all thank you.

So as this one guy said before does anyone no if the SuperSu binary will be automatically updated because on S7 edge root with eng boot root the SuperSu binary had to be manually updated and no one ever updated so google play store updating super su messed up the supersu app by making super su app always say please update super su binary and whenever you accidently clicked ok it failed and had to be factory reset the entire device. im guessing maybe but maybe not cause i read some earlier and it seems to be slightly different than the s7 root somehow.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
it should yes since ur still at rev 1.. they havent incremented the bl yet but i kmagine any day they will lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xak:
[MENTION=3812611]elliwigy[/MENTION] Do you happen to know this answer?

Not trying to duplicate post usually adds to end of my post.

So as this one guy said before does anyone no if the SuperSu binary will be automatically updated because on S7 edge root with eng boot root the SuperSu binary had to be manually updated and no one ever updated so google play store updating super su messed up the supersu app by making super su app always say please update super su binary and whenever you accidently clicked ok it failed and had to be factory reset the entire device. im guessing maybe but maybe not cause i read some earlier and it seems to be slightly different than the s7 root somehow.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
we are still testing root methods but i updated a few times today no issues.. it might initially fail but eventually it updates successfully but we will know more when we find the best root method
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] XBlackChaosX:
You claim that you don't mean to post a duplicate post and yet you intentionally do it..... Smh. You already asked this question 9 minutes ago. Have patience.... Sigh*
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
lmao it made u reset the whole device?? i had a few fail and a few successfil binary updates today didnt cause a factory reset any time
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xak:
yea talking about s7 edge because update play store super su app when binary wasnt available, then hit ok to update binary and it messed up mine was using the echo rom for s7

thanks for answering the previous question btw
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] progro420:
+1
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] pupochek:
S7 and S7 edge used the same method to root. FWIW, on my S7edge I had no problems whatsoever updating SU binaries...
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] anewday:
Would Gear VR work with a rooted S8?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ReRuss:
Far as I know the S7 had a custom built SuperSU binary package and whenever SuperSU asked to update binaries it always failed. I had a regular S7 through USC and kept it on MM simply for Xposed functions at the time. I tried to use flashfire and manually update it once bjt it tripped security lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TechBSwift:
Very likely it will work, however nothing is guaranteed. Now for everyone else, just sit back and chill with the questions. The root method isn't even released yet and there's several questions. To avoid additional questions, I will make a step by step instructional video like I did for the s7 and s6. Although you guys have good intentions asking questions, doing so slows down to progress. Just wait until things are released and I will do my best to help the team answer all your questions and avoid people screwing up their phones.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] daizoninc:
Their thread is for the s8 and s8+ why do people keep asking about the S7? Can we keep that to PMs or at least do everyone a favor and use discretion with how often we post about it.

Sent from my Galaxy S8+ Verizon
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhofseth:
Somebody always finds an 80% solution, no worries. ;) I am kinda curious about how much updated/current stock files we could copy back to rooted ENG system partition (i.e., maintaining proper permissions, etc.) and still get it to boot again? In other words, to keep only necessary root files to maintain root but copy back almost all of your old backed up system partition. I know I'll experiment with that after flashing the rooted ENG system, and it'll probably cause me to have to Odin flash a stock ROM again. Oh well, I have to try.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] vg001:
Okay they didn't limit the battery life to 80%. Samsung made it limited to 80%. But yeah you're right. This is not a actual root process but it's what it is. Sammy changed the game with their advanced securities. So, only way is to buy eng firmware with su binary already installed but this eng firmware even with su binary installed, there were some restrictions to mount system(rw). Whoever figured out to mount the system(rw). Great job for that guy. Like I said this is not the actual root process. You have to unlock the bootloader for actual root.

Nowadays, people buy eng firmware from Samsung or people who have connection to Samsung internal files with root or limited restriction then root.

They already bought the files with permissive boot and su installed from what I know. Pretty much 99% of things are already done by Samsung. 1% was the restriction to mount system as rw.

So, thanks for that 1% and hope people will donate for that bought firmware so then people who contributed for those files will get their money back.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ReRuss:
If you look closely I didn't ask about the S7. I referenced an issue with it's root and asked if it was going to be an issue on the S8's.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] billa:
80% battery

I hope that the 80% battery issue can be rectified through software, but since even the eng-kernel is protected by the boot-loader and cannot be modified directly, the only software option I can see is through some Xposed modules.

Alternatively, it could be fixed via a simple resistor connected in series with the BSI (Battery Source Indicator) pin inside the phone.

By lowering the voltage on this pin, basically it would fool the battery gauge circuit into thinking that it's still at 60% when it's actually at 80% already, therefore it would keep charging an additional 20% till it reaches what "it thinks" is 80%, but of course WE know that's the real 100%.

Just imagine a glass of water filled to 80%, in order to raise its level to 100%, you could simply pour 20% more water into the cup, which will raise its level to 100%, BUT the cup doesn't know how we did it, just like to the battery gauge indicator. ;)

So, the battery gauge indicator would still show 80% on the display, yet the actual charge level on the battery will be at 100% capacity.

Now, the specific value of the resistor will have to be chosen carefully by the process of trial and error, somewhere in the range of 0.1kohm to 1kohm.

Bust out the soldering iron! lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
you are mistaken.. fitst off we all worked together so credit should go to more than one guy.. secondly, we have full root, you dont need an unlocked bl for root.. it wasnt 99% samsung, if it was why would we have spent 100s of hours between us figuring it out?

you shouldnt comment on something and a process if u kno nothing about it and were not involved with it

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be patient and see for yourself on release lol fact is, each person u ask will have something different to say
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] vg001:
Thanks to your team for buying the files with su installed by Samsung and figuring out to mount system rw. I didn't said you need bl unlock to root. What I said was, now this is the process of root in locked bl variants. I didn't comment on your process, I comment on what you guys told us. Speaking about countless hours. That's why I thanked for figuring out the mounting of system rw. Beside, that for trying to root, the process and countless hours. That is appreciated for just trying not just you & your team. For everybody who tried even the dev of previous thread.

Also not to mention, countless hours was you(your team) trying to figure out the mount rw and trying other process & learning. Like I said, those countless hours is appreciated but if somebody invest the time on doing that is just appreciated. Countless hours doesn't mean, it was due to root. It was because figuring out, learning how to mount.

Trying different ways doesn't mean anything in any process. I said 99% done by Samsung because you said yourself , eng was permissive ...you didn't need to make it permissive. Root was there(su binary)you didn't need to find a way to install su. Samsung already did that. you can touch other parts but not the system. That's is why I said 99% is done by Samsung. I didn't comment on your process. You process was 100%. Thank you for that
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] boostnek9:
Yes, yes you did say that. In fact, you said those EXACT words. You don't know what you're talking about and you keep contradicting yourself. You should probably stop now. SEE BELOW.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ad44891:
Thread becoming a gossip thread again.. Smh.. Just be patient.. Majority of these statements & questions have nothing to do with root or s8 or s8+Snapdragon..
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] AddictedToGlass:
Sigh...

I do have a legitimate concern question about these days leading up to this release.

Obviously I have stopped the system auto update through dev options, but should I be co cerned about OTHER Samsung updates?

Example, I was going to try a Bixby remapping work that doest require root, but in order to use it, Bixby has to be set up. Well, to continue setup of Bixby, it's calling for acceptance of an update, which I'm a bit reluctant to do.

Might Sammy try to sneak in a block via one of their many mini services (even just loading a Sam theme, for example...), and if so how can we prevent a sneak update?

My apology if this is inappropriate for this thread.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jokono421:
[YOUTUBE][YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE]

I think he's a little confused. there was only a few issues with the rom you flashed and if you flashed 2.79 su or 2.82 su. An they explianed it in the 2.82 su thread . They said it may be unstable with some roms to use 2.79 if thats the case. Eithier way root worked thats all that mattered.

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Well unless your calling yourself a liar based on your statement samsung. did 66.6% and they did 33.3%. Eithier way they are your 100% savior for root. An if not then why are you on this thread. There's plenty of other threads to( try) an dum down very intelligent people. Eithier baking a cake or splitting an atom. These people are above average intellect in there art? Also any body get any time trying to use mtweaks or any app like that with success?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] vg001:
Lol the two people before me posted something that blamed devs for being lazy and rooting with 80% battery. Mod deleted their comment. So I said it wasn't devs. Samsung did it.They were also saying, this isnt the root method.I was trying to tell the two people rooting is like this on locked bl variant. Sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone. Ignore my post.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Opensystem:
You only need to "worry" about actual OTAs. Aside from what you've done, most also use "adhell" or "package disabler" and disable any files related to "update" as possible. I just realized how many quotes I just used...

Anyways bixby isn't gonna hijack your mojo, update away
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jokono421:
One of the big reason Im rooting is to remove as much pre installed stuff on phone as possible, an replace what ever is needed to run with 3rd party. Bixby is my biggest problem with the s8+. Laziness should nvr trump privacy assurance? If you want to stay up to date and have major corporations all in your device why root your phone. If you dnt mind the intrusion then stay unrooted. It might just be but what is the purpose of root if you wanna stay sucking on the teet of samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TechBSwift:
Bro stop responding to all these comments, you to smart for that. Once root drops I will do my best to answer many questions to give you some relief. Just think we first met during ping pong root lol. I love how most was begging for root, now many are complaining about 80% battery. No one has mentioned that by having root, removing bloatware will give us 5%+ of battery life back, therefore it's really like only losing 15% lol lol
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] howellcp:
Yep, debloat is 100% the reason I am looking for to root. I don't show me battery % anyway so IDGAF.
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tantavevus:
Will there be a method to unroot published?
[Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion] TechBSwift:
Always bro, however first we have to have a method to root before we can think about unrooting lol ???