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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] filthyfnj24:
Update 01/17/2020. I've had my black, unlocked Sprint version since my last post in 2017. I've been using it flawlessly on Mint mobile for a couple years. It is positively Boba Fetted out with scratches all over the aluminum body. I am on my 3rd IQ shield screen protector. My wife has the white Verizon z2 force and we have almost all the mods.

A few months ago I noticed my battery life take a nose dive. Even after a complete wipe and clean install I struggle to make it through a day with moderate use. I've never had a phone long enough to experience battery degradation.

I went to Best Buy to check out the current crop of new phones. I handled the z3 and z4 and while nice they just seemed kinda..."meh" I didn't notice any speed difference or screen clarity between either of those phones and my 3 year old z2 and I'd be giving up shattershield. I thought about trying something new and was seriously tempted by the S10+ but a case would be a must. It is crazy

My daughter has a pixel 3 so I checked out the 4 and was a little underwhelmed. I ended up leaving with the phone I came with. I got home and started shopping online. I stumbled upon a nib unlocked gray T-Mobile Z2 for $150. Considering the Samsung cost almost 5x as much and would need to be babied I pulled the trigger on the Motorola.

So in summary I love this phone enough to buy it again despite it being old as dirt in the tech world. I plan on riding the gray one until the wheels fall off or until some new hotness comes out that I see and just have to have.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] enetec:
Owner of one of the first Z2 Force XT1789-06 dual sim with Nougat, since of reduced battery life and screen a bit "impressed" I decided to buy a new phone.

I decided for a "brand new" Xt1789-06 dual sim that I set up with Pie. Need I to add something? ;)
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] allrightlite:
Yeah, there is no better phone on the market with unbreakable screen. I would buy it again, too. Costs 399€ (very much, but high end for many years) at the moment. More than 2018 here in europe.

Set Up should be Lineage OS 16 and then it's perfect.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] enetec:
Yep! ;)
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] allrightlite:
No, I like it for real, no irony.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] enetec:
Me too. No irony at all!!! :laugh:
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] forgottennick:
Previously I had a Moto X Force which was great phone but after three years of using phone a pink vertical string appeared on the screen, so I decided to buy Moto Z2 Force of course, because there are no other phone with unbreakable screen on the market. Comparing the two phones, the Z2F is much faster than the XF and of course the main advantage is Moto Mods :) Z2F with PowerPack had almost 5000 mAh, the largest battery among flagships phones :D The only minus is that there is no successor at the moment...
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're a power user. Can the Moto Z2 Force keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Moto Z2 Force. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] DsturbD:
its only just begun :)
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] razrlover:
Agreed

Future looks good,!
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] jhofseth:
Considering the US Snapdragon S8/S8+/Note 8 and US carrier LG V30 do not have bootloader unlock yet, the Moto Z2 Force has development potential. The reason I got the Moto Z2 Force was bootloader unlockability with T-Mobile! I was so sick of US Snadragon S8+ bootloader lockdown, I got a 2nd phone that I could actually compile custom kernels for! :)
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] imna357:
Exactly ?
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Kaesberg:
this phone has finally pulled me out of the wood works and i am officially working on this device and no longer am going to lurk on xda. i have been building android for years and want to try to provide more to the community that has given so much to me already. i have a t-mobile unit i do not use and a at&t one i have as my daily driver. im ok with bricking both devices for this to progress forward.

i am working on building a few roms unofficially from a few sources as of now Resurrection remix boots but has far too many bugs to put in the wild. before anyone asks no i am not sharing until i have direct permission and a git setup for the entire build.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] DsturbD:
Cool deal bro, welcome to the show lol looking forward to more devs on this device and more roms to play with.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Kaesberg:
I am getting one of my at&t models replaced so once the rma for it shows up I'm going to try to get a root method on it and will not have to worry about bricking it since it already is getting replaced for the sound issues it has. stay tuned if i make progress i will update everyone.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Uzephi:
PM invisiblek. He has a blank flash but requires some trickery to get done. He borked the bootctrl hal and got his device up and running with it.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Kaesberg:
awesome thank you i will contact him once my replacement shows up.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Would you say that the Moto Z2 Force is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Moto Z2 Force exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] cfriendr:
The 835 combined with the near stock ROM means a silky smooth experience.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] scythekain:
It's faster than my tears, and is able to respond before i even have a chance to form a tear in my eye.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] LGtMgG2t:
Everything is lightning quick even with multiple apps open in the background. Hard to slow this phone down really. Easily the fastest phone I've used.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] imna357:
As expected on SD835, quick and smooth, and so as the bare essentials on this phone. Loved it:good:
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] justabeetle:
Anything I say will be repeating everyone else:

It's really fast.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] keemworld:
Just as fast as the Pixel 2 phones for half the price on T-Mobile.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] crazy1990:
So far, I have been using this phone for a little more than a month. I have to say this is the best phone since I previously own Nexus 5. I am really impressed with the performance, stability, and speed of it. It's really hard to slow down this phone. It's really smooth and fast. This phone has been running for five weeks without a reboot and counting. I don't see any issues with the performance and stability of this phone. The performance is the same since day one. This phone is near stock android combine with top-end CPU make the best experience overall. It blew my mind away.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] g355150:
I LOVE this phone. I came from a note 4. Played around with a note 8.

Real snappy. I only have three complaints

1) stock Android emojis.

2) no headphone jack.

3) I didn't buy it sooner to get the free projector ?
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Barkleyfan:
Bought it for my kid. Seriously impressed. The mods are fun, but expensive gimmicks. Ít runs as fast or faster than my Note8. I do wish it was water resistant, but aside from that, it is a good value.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
OMG! Kim K posted another selfie with tons of cleavage! Rate this thread to express how quickly apps launch on the Moto Z2 Force. A higher rating indicates that even the most intensive apps launch quickly and without hesitation, even if they are no longer in RAM.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the Moto Z2 Force performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the Moto Z2 Force keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Moto Z2 Force under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Moto Z2 Force stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Kaesberg:
this device overheats while being used for vr, and when being used with amlost any moto mod i have the camera, projector, and jbl speaker and all of them cause the phone to get hot. anyone wanna test? just use a mod for 20 min and then remove it and touch the back its very warm near the pinout. the cpu is in the lower half of the device.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] ilovemeow:
no heat issue unless playing heavy duty game or play 2 hr more video
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] kur0g4ne:
My last phone was a moto G4 plus which overheated like hell, I play a lot of pokemon go, and the device gets a bit warm, but nothing too much to worry about, also in intensive games gets fairly toasty but really, nothing like other phones. Also consider what it says here about our phone overvolted compared to other phones with the same chip. I actually won't make modifications to the stock rom of this phone until some development gets stronger, but it's possible to get better battery life and most importantly better thermals tweaking some stuff.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Kaesberg:
i just made a moto mod that cools my phone and recharges it at the same time. PUBG doesn't even get my device hotter than 35c after 2+hours(added the current data from all my testing)
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] riskyfuture:
I'll second that, mine gets hot wheels the game pad or turbo mod are connected.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] PhantomSoul:
It's possible for the phone to get hot under high loads or when charging, especially with the TurboPower mod, but it's nothing crazy.

Over all, for a titanium back, great thermals.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] allrightlite:
On benchmark it goes hot as hell. Never do a benchmark again. Was 3D Mark.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] cesgz:
01/2019 Real user review Haven't felt any lag even on heavy usage. All apps load pretty fast. RAM management is great! Scrolling is pretty smooth, no complains. On long calls or on updates while charging it can heat up , but nothing considerable.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] 潇霄小云:
A8 will be hot? I actually used this phone to play a9, unbelievable.?
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] alancunha:
Hello friends, I'm from Brazil and I'm translating this message through google. I have a z2 force about 2 years ago, I recently bought a mod 360 camera, The problem is that when I go to make videos the phone heats up more, to the point of starting to catch. The videos from about 12-15 min in duration starts to crash! Does anyone have this problem too?
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Moto Z2 Force's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Moto Z2 Force come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Ksehwail:
So far I'm pretty pissed off with the camera. I recently tested the LG G6, Huawei Mate 9, OnePlus 5, and now the Moto Z2 Force which I was hoping would be my dream phone. I owned the Z Force and so far and a bit disappointed. The Camera seems to have potential but the software is terrible, at least on my specific device. The camera is plagued with shutter lag which really seems to take a toll on picture quality. Pro mode is what really upset me with only having the option of 1/4 for shutter speed as the longest time for exposure. I have taken a great deal of pictures to compare with the phones listed above, so far the Huawei Mate 9 has had the best camera in my opinion. Obviously, this is totally objective as views will change per individual. I am by no means a photography expert, but I am always in search of a great camera in a smartphone. The biggest reason for my angry toward the quality of the Z2F camera is the retail cost of the phone, I really thought this would be a camera I would have loved. It seems like I may wait to see how the Essentials Phone turns out and am very curious about the Nokia 8, both in terms of camera. To date I think the use of a dual camera, one being monochrome and the other RGB, is the best implementation. Please let me know if the inconsistent shutter I'm facing is just a problem with my unit or if other's share it as well. I really had my heart/mind set on this phone being able to go toe to toe with others in its price range. Side note, the LG G6 wide angle lens was great for taking pictures, I was surprised that I liked the secondary camera being a wide angle lens as it allowed for unique perspective. I let go of the LG G6 because my father broke his phone and really thought the Z2F would be the phone of my dreams.

Update: Twist for camera sometimes hangs and after some time force closes. This has also happened on 2 occasions when opening camera app, viewfinder is black followed by hang and crash.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Th3Bill:
Camera shutter speed seems to be a stock app issue mostly. I have CameraZoom FX and that works better at taking the picture quickly. I do expect this to improve as the device matures and some updates get pushed out to it.

That being said, the overall photo quality seems to be pretty good overall. The S8 I am leaving does a better job of handling multiple light levels (like say bright window light in an otherwise dimly lit room), but I do think the Z2F has some promise for sure.

I do agree that I think the shutter lag is very 2015.....so hoping Moto does fix that
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] SpontaneousMixx:
disappointing camera

I agree with this. The camera app is terrible. I came from the HTC 10 into this phone and the HTC blows it out of the water as far as camera quality goes, and I doubt there's any reason for that as far as the sensor/hardware goes There are also other apps that don't seem to access the front flash on this phone, I.E. Instagram, snapchat, etc. could be a driver issue or something, but motorola needs to get it together with the Android O update.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] LGtMgG2t:
Has any compared picture quality with Open Camera and the google camera app?
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Venter:
Camera App Update

I just noticed that they added two features to the camera app. Object recognition and landmark recognition.They said that they included some bug fixes but did not elaborate. Hopefully they will continue to work on the app and image quality will improve as the phone matures. I think there is potential to improve low light photo's seeing that the black and white sensor should aid low light photography.

So far I am very happy with my photo's. I am a casual user and happy with the images. Realistically I do not think one can expect DSLR quality on a mobile phone. Maybe one day....
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] a99tandem:
I've used several third party apps, and this camera is total trash compared to even my nearly three year old Galaxy S6.. I have to place dramatic Instagram-style filters on everything to hide how crappy this camera is.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] darthxa:
I took this picture with full manual mode and it's quite good for me
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] RE910177:
why not use Hasellblad?
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] benjamminh:
It's only useful for its optical zoom.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] DoN GioVaNNi:
Does anyone have problem with autofocus....? The autofocus on this device is absolutely terrible.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] xRogerxC:
Google Camera port is your friend when it comes to the Z2 Force. Also, Snapseed is a great editor.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] galets:
So, I'm reading through this thread: https://xdaforums.com/z2-force/themes/app-modded-gcam-hdr-t3735494 ; there seems to be no gcam available for Z2, which would be fully functional. Are you saying you solved this issue and have one that works? Perhaps you can post to the thread with your findings if you did?
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Moto Z2 Force come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Moto Z2 Force performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
There! Something just happened! Did you take a picture of it? Rate this thread to express how fast the Moto Z2 Force can go from "zero to picture". A higher rating indicates that launching the camera app and taking a photo is extremely fast such that you never miss an important moment, like when your cat attacks the couch again.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] DsturbD:
double twist to open camera, click to take photo, all in less than 5 seconds
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the Moto Z2 Force's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Moto Z2 Force can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Moto Z2 Force before depleting the battery.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Uzephi:
I haven't been able to just drain the battery with this screen time from full to 80% in battery saver mode trying to get every drop out of the phone. This wasn't heavy gaming or CPU intensive stuff, just YouTube and some social media. Still great time compared to the sot of my M9
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Comet1966:
4 hours on the first full drain.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] !an:
I've managed to get from 100% to 8% with screen on time being about 5 and a half hours with only using the battery saving from 15% I'd add my screen shot but I'm unsure how you add them on here
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] WeUseLord-:
Okay but I've been listening to music since 7:00 this morning and I'm at 53% now ( it's 4:00 so it's been about 9 hours )

IDK if this helped me at all but I used root booster and used stability boost :)
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] LGtMgG2t:
4 hours and 5mins for my first full drain using all features in Greenify with aggressive doze. Also have L Speed installed suing it's balanced profile.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] mookiexl:
I've hit 5hrs SOT for my 1st three days of owning this device in a row.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] crazy1990:
Hello all, I am the new owner of Tmobile Z2 force. I have owned this device for a month. There is something I like to say about battery life. For those who are experiencing short battery life, there is something consuming the battery. I have found the cause.

On the homescreen on stock launcher:

Clock widget- if you tap the tiny weather icon above the time in the clock widget, the weather app opens up. Then click the three horizontal line menu on the top left of the app. A pop-out menu is open. Then click on weather settings. As you can see, the current location enables by default. This option causes using GPS constantly; it's like a live GPS constantly. This drains the battery so much. Toggle it off and manually add the location helps battery life much better by a huge margin.

On the system menu:

Connected Devices tab- toggle off the NFC and Bluetooth for those of you who don't use them very much. It also drains the battery too.

Security & location tab- Click on location. Then click on scanning. From there, you can see WIFI and Bluetooth scanning. Toggle both of these off. It drains battery like crazy.

Mode: There are different kind of mode- high accuracy, battery saving, and device only. I use battery saving mode. I test with device only, it consumes battery more than high accuracy, but not battery saving mode. Only use high accuracy if you rely on google map navigation a lot. My opinion...

After changing those settings, I was able to get 4 hours and half of screen on time at the most with 17 to 18 hours on battery AT 50% level in the end of the day. I did not charge halfway. That is pretty amazing for this tiny 2700 mah given in this phone. I'm blown away.

I also like to mention that I am a light to moderate user. I use 9gag, chrome (occasionally), greader (rss reader), whatsapp, youtube (occasionally), google hangout, ip webcam, gmail, outlook, and skype for business.

There are several factors that affects the battery life such as bad wifi. In my work, there is a wifi, but it drains my phone like hell. My wifi at home doesn't drain my phone battery. It's easy on it. That's something to look out for.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] sastheayubian:
Thank you so much. You cannot believe how drastically my battery life improved. I was barely getting 2 and half screen on time. You are a savior. Thanks again.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] crazy1990:
No problem. Glad to help.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] allebg:
Thank you very much, I just bought my phone and was a little disappointed with battery life, GPS is a real battery drainer.