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[Fire General] azuremoonbeam:
version for 5.6.0.0

i just purchased a new used kindle 5th gen i did the upgrades before i read up on it and have it all setup but when i tried this it all failed... can we get an updated version please?
[Fire General] DB126:
What version of FireOS is currently installed on your device?
[Fire General] azuremoonbeam:
5.6.0.0 as i said in the post...
[Fire General] DB126:
For awareness post titles (where you identified the FireOS version) and signatures are stripped from most apps used to view XDA content including their own "labs" app...go figure.

At present it is uncertain whether FireOS 5.6.x.x can be safely downgraded to 5.4.0.0 which is a prerequisite to disabling most preinstalled apps. There is nothing the script developer can do to work around this restriction as Amazon disabled the required commands in FireOS 5.4.0.1 and above.

Keep an eye on this thread to see if rolling back to 5.4.0.0 is determined to be safe. Might take awhile as the consequence of an invalid downgrade is a non-recoverable ("bricked") device. Usually requires a brave sole willing to sacrifice their tablet or someone learning the hard way.
[Fire General] 4pH3xtW1n:
Found the answer to this: com.amazon.h2settingsfortablet

So with that left in I can access Family Profiles however when I tap a child profile to manage it, it quits back to the home screen so it looks like theres another removed package that deals with that.

At this stage, I think the best option is to manually disable as many amazon apps as possible and see what does and doesn't affect family profile functionality until I get the right balance. This will be through trail and error and quite a few resets so before I get to it, I ask (as a n00b) if anyone has come up with 'optimum' balance between bloat removal and child profile functionality?

Thanks
[Fire General] vojtah1:
On 5.6.0.0 version it says it failed to block OTA but overall did not remove a thing. not even lockscreen add.
[Fire General] DB126:
Tool is largely ineffective on FireOS builds above 5.4.0.0.
[Fire General] TangoDeathClaw:
I got a fire 8 7th gen on 5.4.0.0, can anyone help me root it. It has ADB, but won't do fast boot with this tool, help please, and thank you.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
There is no root for these tablets on 5.3.2.1 or later.
[Fire General] nthaniel:
Because you want your gifts specifically customized. There was a more polite way to address this, like simply adding the word "Please" to the beginning OR end of that last sentence.
[Fire General] miztrniceguy:
5.4.0.0

will it work ON 5.4.0.0 ?
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
Yes.
[Fire General] miztrniceguy:
as soon as I connect to wifi it downloads update to 5.4.0.0. can't seem to find a way to block it. but I will leave wifi off while I work on trying this. Thanks

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I agree with Davey about being able to select what's removed (disabled). I am new at this...as in I tried once (and failed) to install a custom ROM on a NOTE Tab that was bricked. I see someone mention editing the .BAT file but I've never done that. I can build a windows desktop, troubleshoot windows issues and solve problems (with the help of Google). Hesitating because I want Kindle app and Amazon Prime video.
[Fire General] supernig:
If the tool is not working (it just "waits" forever) and you are on 5.4.0.0 or below, you might not have the right ADB drivers for windows.

Try opening a command prompt in the folder where adb.exe is, and run adb shell

If you get the message error: device '(null)' not found then you need to follow the instructions on the Amazon ADB page to remove current drivers and install the correct ADB ones:

developer.amazon.com/docs/fire-tablets/ft-set-up-your-kindle-fire-tablet-for-testing.html

(sorry, can't post outside URLs since my account is new)

After you have the correct drivers, try connecting to your device again, and it should work. Then you can run adb kill-server if the tool still gives you problems. Hopefully this helps some noobs like me.
[Fire General] HackFox:
7th gen

will this tool work for the Fire 7th gen?
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
This will not work on any Amazon device running FireOS 5.4.0.1 or higher.
[Fire General] DB126:
Only if running FireOS 5.4.0.0.
[Fire General] Araforn:
Hi all. Just purchased 2 * fire tab hd 8’s and when powering on the first one it updated to 5.4.0.1 !!!

I don’t want to make the same mistake with the second tablet but the first setup procedure forces me to connect to WiFi and then it updates :(. Does anyone know of a way I can skip the setup so as to not update?.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
If you tap a network and start to type, then hit the back button a couple times, it should ask you to set it up later. I forget how many times you press back and what part of the screen the option comes up.
[Fire General] JKSurf:
Just received my $29.99 cyber Monday fire 7. Skipped wifi setup. Running 5.4.0.0 straight from Amazon ?! Drivers already installed from rooting 5th gens. Got "waiting for tablet" from tool. Enabled USB debugging, profit!

Thanks!
[Fire General] jlavine:
I just got two Kindle Fire HD 10 units today. On the first one, I went through the initialization normally, connecting to Wifi and allowing it to auto update. It ended up with Fire OS 5.6.0.0.

On the second one, I interrupted/skipped the auto-update. It seemed to come preloaded with Fire OS 5.5.0.0. Not sure why I got this and others got 5.4.0.0.

I only get errors when running this script, or adb uninstall for anything. :(

If anyone has figured out a workaround, please share!

For now, I'm happy that I bought the tablets without special offers for the absurdly low Cyber Monday price just over $100 each, that I was able to install the Google Play Store and, from there, all normal Android apps, and that I was able to install Nova Launcher and LaunchHijacker.
[Fire General] Nrocket3:
Will this work on 5.6.0.0?
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
No, but allegedly you can downgrade from 5.6.0.0 > 5.4.0.1 > 5.4.0.0 and all the way to 5.3.2.1. I believe this works only on Fire 7 and Fire 10. I have yet to see downgrading work for the HD 8.
[Fire General] miztrniceguy:
so if I delete from the batch file

adb\adb.exe uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle

Then it won't delete the Kindle app?

What if I already installed Google Play?

I was hoping there would be an easy step by step guide from start to finish. Maybe the instructions are somewhere and I am missing them. I assume I am supposed to copy to the Fire tablet, but I don't know what to put where.
[Fire General] miztrniceguy:
which line do I need to delete to keep Amazon Prime Video?
[Fire General] russmichaels:
I have a new 7th Gen.

I understand from reading other posts that this app doesn't work on 7th Gen, however it does seem to have.

I have play store and nova installed, it said it removed some apps and failed on others.

My problem is that on the play store all it shows is the google apps and nothing else.

How do I get it to show ALL apps in the store?
[Fire General] DB126:
Rather than looking for the few items you want to keep I'd suggest a modest pruning of unwanted items. You can always add an item and rerun the script. However, you can't add anything back without a factory reset and starting all over.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
Something some of us have done plenty of. My HD 8 has been reset countless times. I am debating resetting it and letting it update to test out new things and see what kind of goodies they left for me.
[Fire General] miztrniceguy:
Well, since I can't completely gut it and install a plain vanilla Marshmallow build .....my primary wish is to block OT updates, and keep Google Play, which I have already added. The removal of ads would be a bonus.

I have enabled ADB and my computer recognized the device, and downloaded the Fire Utility. I don't know what to do next. didn't find a step by step guide.
[Fire General] DB126:
You won't find a step by step guide. You'll have to figure it out on your own by reading the script and various postings in this thread to help identify which line(s) impact which components. Hence the reason I suggested going slow.
[Fire General] miztrniceguy:
SUCCESS!!! Used tool without issues, now downloading a boatload of Google Play apps from my son's account before I surprise him with it! Thank you for this tool!

However, I must have needed to delete something else from .BAT file. Kindle pp won't open. It said it updated the app in Google Play, but it doesn't open.
[Fire General] miztrniceguy:
Sure wish I knew which lines in .BAT file to remove in order to retain just the Kindle Reading App and the Amazon Shopping App just like you want. Just deleting the line for the Kindle app wasn't sufficient as the app is there, but won't open.
[Fire General] miztrniceguy:
Well, I've started downloading my son's apps from Google Play. I've got a 64GB card installed, moved everything it said I can move over to SD from internal storage and have everything I could find set to download to SD. Used the function in settings to move apps to card. But I've got no space! internal storage reports 692mb available and no apps to move to card. I've attached a couple of screenshots.
[Fire General] DB126:
Yep - you're only left with ~5.5 GB of space for user apps/data on the base 8 GB model. Most apps and associated data can not be moved to the SD card on FireOS v5 unless rooted which is likely not an option if the device was a recent purchase. If within the 30 day exchange window consider upgrading to the 16 GB model. Alternatively, decide which apps are the most important and dump the rest.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
You can also try USB storage using OTG. I'm not sure about the Fire 7, but for the 8.9, you need an OTG splitter. The port doesn't supply enough power to read a USB storage stick, so you have to have the tablet plugged in and charging for it to work.

EDIT: which kinda upsets me. I have an adapter that plugs into the USB port and you actually install an SD card into this adapter and plug it in for storage. However without it being attached to a splitter, it's useless to me. With that said, my 8.9 (16gb) doesn't even take up 6.5gb of storage even with all my apps.
[Fire General] DB126:
Won't address core issue of not being able to migrate apps and associated app data (not raw data) to external storage. A micro SD card/slot and OTG storage are viewed the same way by FireOS v5 (Lollipop/Android 5.1 based) from the perspective of app migration.

Side note: OTG storage will be significantly slower than the integrated micro SD slot on the Fire 7 due to interface specs.
[Fire General] gabosius:
On Fire 7 (7th) OTG works natively with most basic OTG cable, just checked on mine, no external power source needed.

But as already said for app storage it is not the best choice.
[Fire General] DB126:
Yep - get close to the full 500 mAh from the USB port on a Fire 7. 2nd gen HD only supplies 100 mAh which is good for input devices but not most flash storage. Neither will support rotational storage...insufficient startup current.
[Fire General] gabosius:
A bit off the topic I suppose (in terms of the main thread), but 500mA might be just enough for 2.5" HD in low power jumper configuration.

Yet, in the long run would not recommend doing so if 500mA is the draw limit as it might cause some hardware damage.
[Fire General] DB126:
Yes - I thought about that when posting and edited/added "insufficient startup current" as CYA. A modern HDD with soft start would probably work. But as you noted this device was never intended to support such high-draw peripherals. The long term impact on the power distribution system would likely be...err...suboptimal. :)
[Fire General] SpoonyTacos:
Keeps giving me the DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR whenever I try to remove the pre-loaded apps. What could be the problem? I have the ADB enabled. Got google play and all of that installed, too.
[Fire General] Robius:
You're likely on an unsupported Fire OS version. 5.4.0.x and up.
[Fire General] DB126:
Stated another way this tool (script) will only work on FireOS 5.4.0.0 or lower.
[Fire General] Blandroid:
Damn, just got one of these on the cheap hoping to mod all of the Amazon crap out of it but it shipped running FireOS 5.6 outta the box :mad:

Anyone know if the Dev has any plans to make this tool compatible with newer versions? I don't really care about rooting it tbh but I'd like to 'de-Amazonify' it if possible.
[Fire General] DB126:
Unfortunately, Amazon disabled the command used to disable pre-installed apps in FireOS 5.4.0.1. Nothing the script author can do to make it work on higher revs.
[Fire General] Blandroid:
That's a shame :( Is rooting even an option with this version? I'd be reluctant to go that route because I know the Amazon film app (and probably other streaming apps) won't work on a rooted device. The Utility tool worked fine to get Gapps on it and I've got rid of the horrible Amazon launcher using Launcher Hijack.

Guess that might be it for now - thanks for replying btw :highfive:
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
So far no root and the odds aren't in our favor.

EDIT: if root is that important, and you want a superb tablet, look for a 8.9 Kindle. They're cheap and can be rooted, TWRPED and flashed with one of several custom ROMs.
[Fire General] Blandroid:
Hmmmm, I don't really want root tbh - losing the ability to use streaming apps isn't a good trade-off from my perspective.

I've already got an 8" Lenovo Yoga so specifically wanted a 7-incher that I could stick in a handbag :laugh: I found the price of this one irresistible and hoped I'd be able to improve it slightly. Might have to just pay the extra tenner to get rid of the ads.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
I admit, I paid for ad removal, though that was before we discovered disabling system apps.
[Fire General] Blandroid:
Can that be done easily? ^^ Is there a thread on it that you could signpost me to please? TY :)
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
Register the tablet with Amazon. Then in a web browser, you do it from your amazon account. If you get to your device menu and select the tablet, you'll get an option to subscribe and or unsubscribe.
[Fire General] DB126:
Clarifications:

- In most regions you do not have to pay for ad removal; simply send an email to Amazon requesting their removal on the basis of dissatisfaction. In most cases they will comply w/o charge. See here. If unsuccessful on the first attempt try again.

- Root does not automatically disable streaming apps but workarounds ranging from simple to sophisticated are sometimes needed.

- There are several older 7" Amazon tablets, both rooted and unrooted, that can serve your media needs. The 3rd gen HDX will run circles around most devices on the market today and can be found for <$50 USD on auction sites. However, the value oriented Fire 7 remains a decent option if you can deal with the FireOS interface and get over the presence of a few pre-installed apps that you may never use. Installing the Google Play Store (easy) and a different launcher (relatively easy) can go a long way to improving the UX.
[Fire General] Blandroid:
Think you misunderstood, I highlighted 'disable system ads' in your post to indicate that's what I was referring to :laugh:

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I've emailed twice as per that thread - they send links to their 'how to remove ads' instructions. In my 2nd email, I threatened to return it for a refund and they still won't remove the ads for free!

Without knowing what the workarounds involve it's difficult to comment.

I've never seen used Fire Tablets on eBay UK, there were only about 3 sellers flogging new ones when I checked about a week and a half ago. I'm from London as you can see from my avi.

I've already installed the Play Store as I said in my previous post and I've got rid of the horrible Amazon launcher - I mentioned that too.

All-in-all - I'm not really sure what you've clarified?
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
The only ads on the tablet are special offers. You can try a firewall to block the special offers app from accessing the web. Aside from that, without being on a lower version of fireOS (which can be downgraded as low as 5.3.2.1) there's nothing else you can do aside from paying up.
[Fire General] Blandroid:
Are you saying it's possible to downgrade from 5.6 to 5.3 and therefore render my tablet able to fully make use of the Fire Utility Tool? If yes, is there a thread on how to do it in here please? Thx :)
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
There have been a few users reporting you can downgrade only on Fire 7 tablets. So far there is no thread on how to downgrade from 5.6.0.0, but you can use the instructions in the thread about how to downgrade from 5.4.0.1. I don't have a link available at this moment, but it's in the same forum.
[Fire General] DB126:
Nope - the one claim of a successful rollback from 5.4.x to 5.3.x was suspect from the start and never collaborated.

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Actually many things although not presented on a silver spoon:

- many UK based individuals report success in having ads removed; not sure why Amazon isn't honoring your request (there has to be a reason)

- similar comment regarding availability pre-owned Amazon devices in various regions; Fire 7 isn't my first dance

- no, I didn't go back and catalog all your previous posts to determine what you had and had not done to your device

- attitude is everything; folks are trying to help and you are pushing back; that's fine...I'm out. Good luck.
[Fire General] Blandroid:
I didn't find what you said to be helpful at all. If 'pushing back' means bringing that to your attention then I'm guilty as charged.

Nothing wrong with my attitude. Your 'help' wasn't useful that's all. Maybe if you read the thread back a little (standard procedure in forums when joining a discussion) you wouldn't have wasted your time telling me what I already knew.

Flouncing? Really? :rolleyes:
[Fire General] Blandroid:
I got rid of the ads! 3rd time was a charm - I phoned and spoke to CS telling them that ads plastered across a locked screen was an invasion of privacy issue, given that ad suggestions were based on previous searches - some of which might have been of a highly personal nature :laugh:

'There must be a reason' was clearly nonsense - depends on which CS agent you get to speak to and whether or not that person possesses sufficient practical intelligence to know that keeping paying customers happy is a smart move ;)

Its obviously a completely arbitrary decision - I'd definitely suggest trying again if you hadn't already paid.
[Fire General] DB126:
The knowledge and experience of the CSA clearly plays into the equation based accounts by numerous posters - including yours. Equally important is how the 'indignity' is represented. Yours was brilliant (privacy concerns) as have been others that claim inappropriateness for younger viewers, insensitivity to personal beliefs, etc. Without knowledge of how previous attempts were characterized I'd say 'there must be a reason' whether it be agent competence/knowledge/willingness, the manner in which the request was presented or some combination of the two. As an aside, I also believe account standing with Amazon comes into play. Long term customers with 'favorable' histories (however one wishes to define that) are likely get better service IMHO. My interactions with Amazon have always been positive. We also do a lot of business with them.
[Fire General] savvytechwinner:
I told the CS that the lock screen ads ruin the awesome kindle experience, and I asked them if they could kindly remove them. They told me I would have to pay - but then they saw I didn't have any money on my account, and they said they would remove it for free; "One time exception." I do understand that this is normally what happens to everyone, but it all comes down to the agent; and amazon.
[Fire General] savvytechwinner:
Yeah I wish! I would do something about it, if I could. I can't control Amazon though... and they are going to patch what they want to. And there is nothing we can do about it! Unless you've been living under a rock, you know most companies care more about revenue and the money in there pockets than consumers. But it is to be stated that they do care - but under the hood they are trying to make as much money as possible without making it obvious.
[Fire General] Lumute:
Hi everyone, sorry to ask but read the whole thread and I'm not clear, is it confirmed if you can safely rollback a Fire 8 HD 7th Gen from 5.4.0.1 to 5.4.0.0?
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
you can downgrade from 5.4.0.1 to 5.4.0.0 or as low as 5.3.2.1 but ONLY on Fire 7 devices. Currently there is no way to rollback a HD 8 without a permanent brick.
[Fire General] Lumute:
:crying: just got a variety pack for a good price and blocked internet access before turning them on but they came with this version already... :(

Thanks for confirming DragonFire, I guess I'll permanently block OTAs on my Firewall and hope for some good news in the future regarding 5.4.0.1+ for the HD 8...
[Fire General] DB126:
I see no reason to stay on 5.4.0.1 vs 5.6. The restrictions imposed by Amazon on 5.4.0.1 are here to stay. A bootloader exploit is exceptionally unlikely. Same with root as the vulnerability landscape has changed since the 'good old days' with low hanging fruit just waiting to be found/exploited.

FireOS 5.6 brings some small but nice usability enhancements and removes another layer of obfuscation from the underlying Android 5 framework which should improve app compatibility. There's likely a few security patches in 5.6 if you care about that that type of thing.

Blocking OTA updates via VPN based (software) firewall isn't a bad thing and allows you, not Amazon, to decide if/when your device will update. That said, staying on 5.4.0.1 buys little IMHO.
[Fire General] ThisisDD10:
Anyone else having problems with Netflix? I can log in and out, download and watch offline, but I can't stream. It's just stuck endlessly on the loading screen for any video. It's the same with another Fire 7 Tablet.
[Fire General] DragonFire1024:
Amazon blocked that functionality. You could download Activity Launcher from the Play Store, open it, tap all activities at the top left, scroll to 'cast' or 'cast screen' and try to set up streaming via that method. Otherwise you'll have to try third party streaming apps, which are just as hard to get to work well with these tablets.
[Fire General] DB126:
Are you trying to stream (watch on device) or cast (ie: send to TV screen). If the former the issue is/was likely network related either regionally or in in your immediate location (eg: local WiFi). Casting is a different beast which is not natively supported by FireOS for obvious reasons: Amazon would rather you purchase a Fire TV stick to complement your Fire tablet. All in the family.
[Fire General] Lumute:
I don't know, they find new vulnerabilities all he time... For example they just found a new vulnerability that allows someone to modify an apk without changing the signature... Seems to only apply to the old signing method that was changes in N but Fire OS is still 5.1 so if Amazon has not changed the signing method coulnt we install modified system apks to do anything we want (like properly disabling OTA)?
[Fire General] DB126:
Most of these rarely apply beyond a limited context and even less so to FireOS. The Android landscape changed after Stagefright (thanks to media hysteria) with increasing focus and identifying/squashing vulnerabilities. Hope is great; if updating (or not) keeps you up at night do whatever to make it better. I prefer a more pragmatic approach that takes into account what "they" are likely to find.