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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Bobboman:
i kinda wish active use went into battery stats, because i stream podcasts and music all day at work, at the end of my day my phone is somewhere around 40% and only has like 2hrs of SOT but has been on "standby" for close to 18-20 hours by the time i plug it in at night
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Chivamarco:
Great SOT

I'm very happy with this phone, durable, slim, blazing fast and modular.

For one of the thinnest phone with SD835 im very pleased with battery life.

Screenshot with Oreo Update ;)

Normal use, spotify for an hour or so, a lot of instagram, some facebook and twitter, and Youtube over bluetooth on my car, moderate web browsing without using battery saver and remaining 8% of battery :)
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] allrightlite:
I have over 7h sot by watching videos, playing music and messaging by using 5GHz Wifi, mobile network in standby. Rest of battery by 25%.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] allrightlite:
Here screenshot, hope it's working now. Have do it convert to jpg.

Ok, don't work. But, 7h, 13m is the sot.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] gyarados025:
This phone inpressed me with SOT! I owned a Moto Z and battrey was a dissapointment. While this has a 2750mah battrey it cant be much better than this!Planning to buy a powermod but now its not needed:angel:

Getting 8Hrs+ SOT on Oreo :laugh:
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] allrightlite:
Yes, it's great. Much better as on my old phone. Sure the 10nm chip is here very helpful. And the OLED panel, which is much better as just Full HD. I see a big difference between just 400dpi and this. Watching film on this, so important. I'm short-sighted, so I can really see it. My battery had 2733mAh at the beginning and now 2705mAh after last security update. What's you capacity? :o
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] gyarados025:
How to check ..?
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] allrightlite:
For example with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.devcheck
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] jhmiramon:
Screen on time is excellent! I'm quite surprised and impressed because the phone's battery isn't that large.

Regularly getting between 5 and 6 hours SOT!

My highscore: 6:58 :laugh:
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Ace42:
Received the phone 2 days ago, and battery life is ridiculous - especially if you account for real estate. Using Oct (?) update or whatever you guys call the one with September security patch.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] mrsyamsul:
Battery life

If you want to maintain ridiculous battery life please dont update to pie. Battery still good but not soo good as in oreo.

Saw lot of app cant be optimize. But os experience look more like using pixel
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Moto Z2 Force's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] filthyfnj24:
After about a week or use I can say this phone has the best standby time of any phone I've used. I'm losing <1% per hour. Screen on time leaves a bit to be desired but personally I'll take a phone with better standby time than more SOT. I've had phones that would lose 3-5% in an hour just being in my pocket. I've also had phones with awful wake lock issues until they were rooted/debloated.

I'm not exactly a power user due to the nature of my job but it's important for me to have my phone when I need it, generally for making calls or texts. I typically end my day with about 2 ½ hours of screen time and ~ 50 - 60%. I have two Gmail accounts syncing and am mostly on mobile data (wish I could disable LTE) I disabled every bloatware app possible without root and have greenify and blockada installed. I keep Bluetooth on and use either Poweramp or Spotify in the car for about 3 hours out of my day.

While I have had phones with better battery life (Xperia Z3 compact) this phone is more than adequate for my needs. If I were a power user hoping to get a ton of screen on time I would look elsewhere.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Shaffer678:
Definitely seems like after the pho e settles in that the battery life has got better with time
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] filthyfnj24:
Phenomenal
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the Moto Z2 Force's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the Moto Z2 Force's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Is the Moto Z2 Force as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the Moto Z2 Force is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the Moto Z2 Force is a beautiful phone.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Moto Z2 Force feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] JollyGreenEvan:
Almost impossibly solid-feeling for how light it is.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] filthyfnj24:
Ok, so I'm on my third Moto z2. (Long story) I've had two AT&T models and one T-Mobile one. All of which have been excellent. I will say that the AT&T model seems to be a bit better in terms of fit and finish.

On the tmo model there seems to be a bit of a lip between the screen and bezel on the front. On the AT&T model its a much more seamless feel.

While I personally prefer the stealth black of the att it picks up fingerprints significantly more than the silver.

Coming from an Xperia xz this phone blows it out of the water in terms of build, screen, speed and battery.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] charlatan01:
I think the quality feel is quite good as well. I also own a Sony XZ premium, and while the Sony wins in the weight category (heavier), the materials used on the Moto are much better for durability. Put a screen protector on and fuhgettaboutit!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] joeld100:
Hey guys and gals,

I have used a tilt for the past week or so, and I'm realizing that my 8525 may have issues. I am on campus with lots of access points that are hidden for the most part with WEP security, and while the tilt never had any issues, my 8525 likes to drop the profile. While it's trying to connect, it will ask me for the WEP key again saying that it's incorrect, and if I dismiss that notification, it deletes the profile.

Am I the only one with this issue?

Thanks,

Joel
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] adidas4275:
probably the ROM version...

what ROM are you using?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] joeld100:
I am using the latest VP3G, 3.62.3, but if I remember correctly, the problem occurred in the WM5 rom from AT&T as well as the cooked WM6 I'm using now.

The radio version has not been touched that I know of -- it's still 1.16.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] joeld100:
Anyone? Advice on what radio ROM to use, or would that fix the issue?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] galaxys:
If your asking to upgrade the radio version for wifi performance, then don't because the radio has nothing to do with hermes wifi... Maybe a new os rom as mentioned will help...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] kareeem:
I have the same exact problems with my 8525. My 8525 drops networks while my Tilt doesn't.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] guesswhatimfry:
Mine had the same issue, i just upgraded to a different rom and it's fixed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] senergy:
i had a similar issue but only when bluetooth was turned on as well. So when i want to use wifi i have to turn bluetooth off.

It didnt matter what ROM I was using.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] joeld100:
Can anyone that switched roms confirm that they weren't using bluetooth all the time?

Turning on and off bluetooth is a major pain, but not as bad as having to drop another ROM on my phone :)

Thanks guys!
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Moto Z2 Force feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] alfick3:
My 19 yo son just bought himself one of these, as his first serious phone purchase. I was trying to convince him to save a little more to get the Z3, but he wanted to purchase. Tell you what, I was really impressed on how light it was when I first held it. I guess that's due to the laminated screen instead of the glass? I'm also impressed by how nice it looks; it sure is a pretty phone. Now he just needs to get some mods.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] 潇霄小云:
The overall experience of this phone is very good, very light, except 4+64g is not enough and the forehead has a chin (I still think that the front fingerprint can be fully integrated into the back cover log). The sensor application is great. The screen is not bad, I think moto is the best manufacturer to use the sensor.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the Moto Z2 Force. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] SpontaneousMixx:
Hard to find Vanilla android experiences, but this phone has it. Device specific features are neatly tucked away into their own app, even though it might have been nice to have a settings menu item to launch it.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] imna357:
Loved mine, rooted=)
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] 2PiSquared:
Find it very good, I hate that it replaced the stock ambient display with the Moto display though. Moto's display is ugly imo, and there's no way of getting stock back. But other than that I have absolutely no qualms about the software on this phone, everything is hidden away in it's neat little app and most of it is easily disabled if you don't like it.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] hackenggr:
Agree with 2PiSqaured this phone is brilliant love it

Don't like OEM bloatware amazon stuff and voicemail stuff which I not find a way to completely delete even rooted (Froze it with Titanium however)
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] PhantomSoul:
One of the best OEM skin.

Stock android with tweaks, updates come out quick.

Moto Gestures, my favorite feature. Simple and quick. Amazing

10/10
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Moto Z2 Force's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] vibraniumdroid:
I would give it a 4.5/5 on outdoor brightness. The only reason I don't think it deserves full points is because the plastic screen causes glares in the sun.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] wilsodw:
I would give it a 3.5/4. It might just be me our the screen protector. I still have to move to shade even at different angles. Maybe there is a trick.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] SpontaneousMixx:
3, in bright sunlight, I have to work really hard to see on screen images.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Moto Z2 Force's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Moto Z2 Force's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
The Moto Z2 Force has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the Moto Z2 Force's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] cesgz:
My Z2 force brightness slider will not change from 35% and lower, the brightness will keep the same. I don't like it.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] stayawake:
The minimum brightness still so strong that hurts when you want to use your phone at night or in a very dark room
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Ace42:
Minimum brightness is perceivably higher than that of my Le Pro 3. So, I installed Pixel Filter, since my LG Flex 2's OLED had the same issue.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] uglyaf:
im pretty sure that is because you have adaptive brightness on/selected. turn that off and your slider will (should) go lower

---------- Post added at 02:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:11 AM ----------

hey this is my daily phone and i installed "screen filter' by haxor industry. be careful because the screen will go completely black if you go low enough you wont be able to see your screen and have to do a factory reset. i have my screen set at 32.6%..what i hate though is the fact that you can NOT dim the notification drawer (bar at top w/ time etc.) or the 3 control buttons at the bottom. hope this helps
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] vegeycracker:
Pixel filter is definitely the best solution I've found for this. It works especially well if you use the Motorola one button nav.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you call granny, does she keep saying "Huh?! Wut?!" or does the conversation flow pretty well? Rate this thread to express how you feel about the Moto Z2 Force's call quality. A higher rating indicates that calls are clear and crisp, and that regardless of background noise, you can hear the other party clearly (and with ample volume) and they can hear you.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Moto Z2 Force's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] galaxy_man:
I have noticed that the WIFI signal I am receiving is significantly better than I received on the Samsung S8. I had a WIFI dead spot at my office with the S8. I now have a much better WIFI (and 4g) signal than I did with the S8 in the same spot.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Chrisy8s:
I've had the opposite experience. My s8 plus would get both bands ofy wifi anywhere in the house. The Moto can only get my 2.4 band unless I'm in the same room as router or directly below it downstairs.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] esuormai:
I am personally having issues with mine, it will stay on for a bit than just reset with about a 15 second delay in it..
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] LGtMgG2t:
No complaints here. For those having issues I'm hoping a driver or kernel update might correct the problem.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] zsunsun:
Mine drops connection occasionally when it is less than 2 bars of strength.

Not sure if this is preferable since all my other devices hang onto the weakest signal which doesn't work instead of dropping connection and use LTE.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] ilovemeow:
was connect with 4G+

as long as I unlock BL and root, It's never go 4G+ again, any advice?..
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the Moto Z2 Force's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] charlatan01:
Coming from a UK unlocked Xperia XZ premium, this phone has amazing reception. With other Tmo devices (HTC10), there have been a few known dead zones in my commute, but the Z2 never drops connection. Traditionally my home is 2 bars max... Z2 has full bars on 4G.

Definitely glad I picked up the Z2. Motos have always been good at antenna / reception, and this device is no different.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] vibraniumdroid:
1+
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] captainrick747:
Have done several upgrades with vista in the past. Had to format the hard drive and re-install vista. Old drivers that I dowloaded (wceusbsh.inf) will not work. Get a message problem with driver. Have tried re-downloading the driver and same problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] captainrick747:
Now have gotten the drivers to load o.k. but still no luck in a connect to the device
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] captainrick747:
After spending a couple of hours screwing with everything I could think to try, I have got the Hermes to update again.

# 1 After following Mr Vanx's directions for the Vista upgrade prosses

http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=27

# 2 DO NOT place the unit into bootloder mode, start the Windows Mobile device center (WMDC), plug the usb connection into the unit and wait for the WMDC to show connected, NOW you can run any of the RUU update files.

As Always Mr. Vanx is the man!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jminor4326:
Bootloader Mode - Will it Erase Data

I have been having similar problems since I got a new computer that runs VISTA. I have tried everything, and the Device Manager, Portable devices has never given an indication my Mogul 6800 is present. I read the guide that captainrick747 referrs. I am concerned that going into Bootloader mode my system will lose all data and get reset to the original configuration. Should I be worried?
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Moto Z2 Force's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.

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[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] Vincent.Papineau:
Can't hear media unless in a quiet room. Listening outside is near impossible!
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] PhantomSoul:
It's an alright speaker, it's front facing so that's always a plus.

It's not bad, but nothing special, no stereo speaker.
[Moto Z2 Force  Real Life Review] ianmck:
If you turn volume on full blast you will hear some occasional crackling. I usually end up turning it down two notches from max. Wish it was stereo.
[Huawei P9 Lite Questions & Answers] marcdu30:
Hello, on my P9 LITE VNS L31, I have the line to unlock oem which is "grayed out" and inactive. I have the bootloader unlocked and firmware NRD90M TEST-KEYS. All this because I tried to pass on emui 5 and nougat and tried to return to MM with the rolback of HUAWEI. The phone works but I do not have Bluetooth. I would like to be able to retrieve the line "deverouiller oem" in the development parameters. Do you know how to do it? THANK YOU
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] shri080:
Well, coming from an S7E, the major issue I have with the G6 is how slow it is when opening contacts, to apps, to camera. I still have my S7E and everything opens faster on it. I know the SD 821 is quite capable, so it must be the LG UI that's making it slow.

I have a couple of questions,

1) I have the 870DS and looking at the trend I may never be able to root. So can someone who has an US version with a custom rom tell me if it has made the phone any faster?

2) And also does anyone here know at all if the 870DS version has any hopes in future for unlocking the bootloader?

Thanks guys. Cheers.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] milan187:
Unlocking the bootloader no, unless it gets cracked which I doubt. Has not happened since the G4.

Custom roms can make the phone faster because they remove a lot of features and run stock Android but almost always the Camera app will really be bad on custom roms (unless based on stock rom).

I have a Pixel and G6. Pixel is known to be probably the smoothest Android phone to this day.

The G6 does not really lag behind it at all. The animations are smoother on the Pixel but thats about it.

I had some intial lag the first day with the device but thats about it.

If yours is lagging consider a factory reset maybe.
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] murok9042:
[MENTION=4265825]shri080[/MENTION]

Do a factory reset in the settings. This helped a lot of people who have lag issues. There is an extra thread for this.

Do a backup of your apps before doing it!

Sent from my LG G6 (H870)
[LG G6 Questions and Answers] lg3FTW:
Have you tried possibly a different launcher?

As well as debloating what apps you can?

Also there's always the options in developer mode that IMO truly help with ram allocation and overall speed.