yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] abubakar:
Oh ya by the way. I've read so much abt page pools. If im nt mistaken, the original crc Rom has 6mb page pool right? I read abt 8meg page pool making your rom faster, so i downloaded a page pool changer n chaned it to 8meg:D

upon doing so, i realized my memory is lower than my previous flash with the same rom with more or less the same programs? was it anything i did? lol
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jws3:
You gave up 2MB of ram for the increased page pool size. You need to balance speed with available ram for programs. I use a minimal amount of programs besides what is in the "normal" ROM. I have an 8MB PP with about 17MB of ram available on startup.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] abubakar:
with less amount of ram on startup, wouldnt that slow your device down? so if i'm an add-on junky, then a lower poolpage will be more suitable for me. am i right?

thanks in advance
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
I have always found an 8meg page pool to be noticeable faster than a 6meg. Also, if your using one of the naked roms, remember to set the cache sizes with advanced config from DU.

maybe, maybe not, try at 8meg, load everything up, and see if you run out of ram.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iharkins:
I'm glad it's not just me who's having this problem. I wonder if it's related to just the Naked ROMs? I had a quick look on here and 4WinMobile to try and find any posts relating to the old fix but was unable to dig up anything useful.

Has anyone else had this problem with either of the Naked ROMs?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
This should work

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=279585

edit: tested as working!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iharkins:
It works (eventually) but it throws the following two errors every time I reboot:

'PTT FindWindowFailed' ... followed by ... 'PTT Unregister Class Failed'

It also appears to have screwed up the Apps tab of my HTC Home!

I think this was the quick fix last time until it was properly fixed in a new ROM release. Oh well ... 12.9 anyone?

EDIT - I've removed it as it caused more harm than good.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
How odd, ill have another look around see if i can find another fix, tired about two others that did nothing. I get the same start up errors, but I don't use HTC home.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jws3:
Attached is a file with my memory usage. You will be interested in the first column. I use Task Manager to fill my Excel spreadsheet with different PP sizes and application loadings. This helps me decide the best combination of speed settings and application use.

Each person will have their own requirements. There is no standard answer to your question.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] zocster:
Interesting ... thanks for sharing this info.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] maximumbs:
I also have PTT issues and the symbol pad do not work at all. Cannot launch it via the keyboard nor select it on the screen. Any ideas? Using Lite btw.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
I know why the PTT doesn't work - it's something usually installed from the Extended ROM that isn't cooked in - nor have I got around to put it on DeviceUpdate yet... I'll get to it later in the day...

EDIT: It's now up there.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tnhneil:
this might work
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
I posted that a page back, it causes quite a few errors and other issues.

edit: ehehe
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tnhneil:
sorry ......:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
It'd be better if people install it via DeviceUpdate - otherwise it'll still tell you it's an available update - even though it's already installed... ;) That being said, it's the same contents of the CAB...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
Thats true, im just bored with not much else to do at this time of night :P Ill just remove the cab.

I have a few things that i put in via UC before they where on DU, What happens if you try to install items again?

Edit: just tried it for kicks, nothing seems to have happend
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
No idea... That's why this is the development thread :) Try it out and let us know ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
I just installed SRS WOW again, nothing bad seems to have happened, going to install the games again, and try putting two versions of arcsoft MMS on.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] zocster:
Just curious, does that improve the sound quality having that installed? ....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
Urrm.. Ill try with and without in a moment, and tell you what I think, I read somewhere that it did, so.

Well, the phone still boots, the mail app is a bit lagy, and mms doesn't work, but the games do load, so it seems that it wont brick your phone.

Ill hard reset and test SRS
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] zocster:
Eh, how u mean, mms doesn't work, worked fine with joint version 5 before, and are you talking about the split version?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
I mean after i installed both version from DU to see what would happen.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] zocster:
you can't be greedy you know that! Can't have your cake and eat it too :p
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
I've just had an idea how to stop one showing up after you've installed the other version... ArcSoft MMS may error out for a little while as I update the mirrors...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
SRS WoW does improve the sound quality, not so much for the speakers though.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] zocster:
Interesting, got BT headset? or wired?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
Wired, I don't have a BT one unfortunately, which is one of the reasons I don't use my Hermes as a mp3 player.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
I've refreshed the CABs for ArcSoft MMS now - you should not be able to see v4 if you have v5 installed from now on... (well, you'll have to install the new CAB to make that happen.... but yeah... :))
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
Works perfectly, cant see V4 with v5 installed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] zocster:
This will be the future of applications download for mobile software I can tell :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] galaxys:
Agree..this CRC's Device Update is

Cutting Edge

!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
Release 12.9 (almost) available.

Well, I've fixed a couple of bugs and have finalised 12.9... The mirrors are taking a little while to update for some reason, so I'll get back to you when it's available to download...

Changelog:

Release 12.9 (07 Aug 2008):

* Fixed issue of DeviceUpdate forgetting all your installations if you removed/re-installed it.

* Minor bugfixes to Device Update to aid with excluding mutually exclusive CABs (ie ArcSoft MMS v4 & V5 which should never be installed at the same time).

This fixes a couple of issues and is probably a worthwhile update for just about everyone... I'll also roll out a couple of updates to the ArcSoft MMS packages to make them 100% compatible with the new Device Update formatting...

EDIT: Oh, and I was that bored while waiting for the mirrors to sync, that I even put some screenshots in the first post on this thread - it only took me a few months ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ziadd:
Never mind.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
Heh - yes they are working for people in AU/NZ, but for just about everyone else, the mirrors are still syncing across - so I'm not going to publish links that will only work for 1 out of 6 or so people :P

It's chugging along doing the syncing, just taking longer than normal today for some reason...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lagoskon:
Dear CRC, the MMSv4 that you have on Device Setup cabs after installation on 12.9naked doesn't show the MMS folder.

One other thing : The cabs are installing by the order they appear on DevUpd or by the order I choose them (I think is the first, is it ok?)

EDIT 1:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Comm]

"Cnct"="`USB"

"AutoCnct"=dword:00000001

Your default value on v12.9 in that key "Cnct" is `57600 and so there is a popup error when connecting to usb with Advance connectin box unchecked.If you write the `USB value everything is ok
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
Are you sure it was v4 and not v5? Are you sure it's 12.9 and not 12.8?

It all happens in the order that they are listed.

I've fixed this now and as the mirrors still haven't fully synced, I'll redo 12.9 with this fix and go again...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Hype2k:
Awesome!

Hi CRC,

first of all: You do awesome work here, thx for that!

Is it possible to get your 3G Dialpad cooked in 12.9 as a CAB for installing over UC.

I am currently using MRHs and just want to check if installing a 3G Dialpad over the existing 2G Pad will work for me.

Would be great, Thanks a lot!

Greetz and BigUp,

Hype
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lagoskon:
http://www.crc.id.au/downloads/index.pl?cat=xda&file=CRC_r12.9-naked.7z

That was the link I modified from v12.8 original link and got it before you recook v12.9.

And 2nd I'm sure it was v4 MMS
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
I've never managed to get a 3G dialler working 100% when installed from a CAB... Otherwise, it probably would be possible.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ziadd:
Same here. Otherwise, the 12.8 big storage ROM is GREAT! Keep up the good work CRC :)

/eagerly awaiting 12.9 big storage
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Hype2k:
Thanks for that information m8,

If you can arrange it with your conscience, feel free to post the CAB somewhere so i can give it a try on my on risk!

At the end maybe i will simply switch to your 12.9 build when available to have a perfect working 3g dialer and a superfast and stable ROM! ;)

Greetz Hype
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lagoskon:
You can try this from Dvha79_ddt ROMs

http://kc9.info/pdaviet/rom/Dvha79_ddt/Utilities/Hermes Dialpad 3G Pandora.cab

It's Hermes 3G Dialpad Pandora
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
Mirrors are updated....

Mirrors are updated and all seems to be good....

12.9 is now available for all. Please let me know if you have any issues with either Device Update or downloading the ROM.... Thanks..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lagoskon:
As much nice concept is the Device Update and how much easiness provides it has for me A Great disadvantage which depends on personal ROM Usage.

For me who want Fully functional both for personal and professional use and I need Office & MMS v4 , because they are not cooked in but installed as cabs, The rom becomes sluggier after full install ( Windows dir opens after 10-12 sec in comparison with PDACorner v19 1-2 sec or CRC v12.7)

So I must stick with PDACorner for these reasons.

I should repeat that is ONLY my personal opinion and IN NONE WAY has as an effort to disrepect your FABULOUS work on ROM Making
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
Have you tried the normal version? Im quite sure it has everything you asked for there still cooked in!

Just testing V12.9 now
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] farres:
why do you need to access Windows dir very often or every now and then? I would need to access Windows dir only to go StartMenu folder to personalize it making the folders I want.

I see that because Windows Dir is FULL of files, it takes quite long to open it...

well, I don't know if this is possible but if a developer is able to collect all the same types of files in new folders and then re-define the paths to these files in all other application that access Windows Dir to work, this will make accessing Windows Dir much more faster than ever before, what do you think guys?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
Im quite a few people have tried, even MS have said that this is a problem, I dont know myself but, I don't think it would be as easy as it almost sounds.

And no problems with DU or MMS on V12.9.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Scotty93:
just flashed 12.9 great rom think ill be keeping with it

Keep cooking :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gregma:
Wow a naked ROM! I love it! One suggestion for the great idea of the Device Setup. An option to install things to SD Card or Main Memory. That would be totally awesome!

Thanks CRC!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] PoisnBGood:
Pardon my ignorance. A few questions.

What is taken out in the naked ROM? Everything except for what is listed?

How does Device Update work? It just installs apps that were in the Normal Rom but not in the Naked Rom?

What is Naked Big Storage. How is the big storage acheived and is there anything negative about picking it over the normal Naked Rom?

I thought UC was run after the Rom is done flashing. The OP suggests we run it after the Device Update. How do we do that? And what happens when there are conflicting programs between Device Update and UC? Also, the device update is supposed to update any programs we have. Does it just install over the old version? Does it install a 2nd version? Is it as clean as uninstalling and then reinstalling? Does it keep our settings for a previous version?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gregma:
I can answer a couple of the questions...

Device Update allows you to select applications that are available to be installed on your device. CRC maintains a list of applications and they are on a few centralized servers.

Big storage changes the Extended ROM into RAM. This increases the amount of available space on your device for storing or running programs basically. The only negative is that some users of 8525's seem to hard reset when running Big Storage ROM's.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] PoisnBGood:
thanks for the quick reply. I got over excited... I haven't checked this thread for a while, and when I saw the new stuff, I wanted to know the answers right away. Haha. I have since gone back and read the thread for 12.8 on.

How common is the Big Storage crashes?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gregma:
For some (me being one of them), they were constant. However, with the newer 6.1 versions, I haven't had one in quite some time. They might have solved the problem.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
If you flash your carriers shipped rom or the newest AT&T shipped rom first, you shouldn't have any hard resets, I haven't, and I have never used BS roms before.

You can run UC and DU, Just don't install stuff from DU that you have from UC.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] PoisnBGood:
Are you referring to the normal naked Rom or the BS naked Rom?

I haven't flashed the newest AT&T rom before. My first 6.1 Rom was a Crc rom sometime back, followed by MRH. Neither has caused my device to hard reset.

I don't think I understand your statement. You said you have never used BS roms before, then why would you not having hard resets apply to me wanting to use BS rom?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] veyka:
Before you flash a BS rom, you should flash a stock rom, it helps stop Hard Rests (aka the crashes).

And im saying, that I have never used a BS rom before this one, I decided to try one for once, and that this method worked for me, aka still haven't had a hard reset.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] PoisnBGood:
Suggestion:

I'm at work and can't flash my phone yet. Can we get a list of all the apps available through DU?

Also, are we able to make suggestions? I know that it probably takes some work to get an app in there, but maybe you can release what needs to be done and members can help to get them ready for you. Judging from the screen shot there are only a few HTC programs that are on there. It would be great to expand that with stuff like HTC album, enlarged start, etc. I would also love for A_C's trio of S2U2, S2P, S2V to be available.

Again, I'm not making demands, just wondering if there is anything I can do to help add more apps in the list.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] PoisnBGood:
Gotcha. Has this been confirmed to be a solution for most? gregma seemed to imply its with newer roms that the problem got fixed. Is the method a real fix or was it coincidence?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] stan23:
Not RAM, but normal storage space in the file system.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] 7s7:
yeah you are right (never use that) screen goes bright as though it is going to work then nothing.

Button Applet is OK!

Device Information also is OK!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] KGET:
More info about my issues

I use Mail2web it's free. This one is the deal breaker for me and this rom. Unfortunatly didnt write down the code, sorry. I can tell you that the set up account had changed. In 6.1 it asks for your email address than your user name, password and domain. Also tries to auto config. The settings for MS exchange is different for WM5 than WM6 maybe different in 6.1??

Realized it was Advance config. I had changed The save file folders and I think it corrupts the SD card managent for Media player. Deleted WDRM, Metafile and switched all back to memory storage not SD and works through Audio manager but I am still getting error in media player "%1 is not a valid win32 application"

Touchflo went pay for service:(. Not a big deal. Isnt there a start up file or something that it could be put in to start with every reboot. I heard that the windows directory is different in 6.1; maybe that is the problem with touchflo and Random access

Yes I thought Getting Started was a windows answer to adding fluff and didnt really do anything new.

The HSDPA might have just been working and I didnt didnt give enough time. I dont have great reception at my house, but usually when starting any data transfer ie or other wise the band would switch to HSDPA I dint see this happening it stayed on edge. 3G was turned on in com manager.

Thank you for the quick response!! I really want to use your ROM, but if I cant get my email that is not possible.

This is the quickest ROM I have ever used and I have used alot!

If you don't need Ms exchange I would recommend this over anything out there, It is sooo fast!

Thank you for your hard work, I am trying to be helpfull. I am, in no way trying be critical of your ROM; it is great!:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] toucam:
Superfast and stable ROM, I have installed loads of software and had to soft-reset only once. One problem I have though is that my Internet connection only works when the H (HSDPA) icon is displayed, IE stops loading when it switches back to 3G. Is this a known problem with WM 6.1? Does anyone have the same problem? I'm on T-Mobile UK.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] parleyp:
ics--where

I really like this rom. I must be blind because I cannot find internet connection sharing. Has anyone seen it?

Thanks,

Parley
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] christopherwoods:
It was driving me nuts, too - there is no ICS in Release 5, and unfortunately manually installing it doesn't appear to work, either (it can't connect to the data connection even if you configure it all correctly). My TMO UK official ROM had the ICS app included, and it worked perfectly first time.

I commented about this a few posts ago in this thread... The lack of ICS (which also means WMWifiRouter doesn't work), and little things like an obvious way to change the softkey assignments, means that I'll probably be switching back to the TMO ROM until this gets sorted. Shame, I'd just gotten used to the threaded SMSing and cool stuff like that. The H icon for HSDPA was funky too ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JudgeDredd67:
Yup that was the deal breaker for me, I have to have ICS. But I really liked the ROM was very quick and didn't seem to have all the problems the other 6.1 ROMS have.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
Hrrrm - I didn't think that people used ICS so much so I ripped it out to give a bit more free space... As people seem to want it, I'll put it back in...

The camera issue via Pictures & Video is known - please check the "Known Issues" section at the beginning of this thread.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] 7s7:
Hi first interesting thing i have found, is that I lost the bluetooth settings for my GPS receiver (had to to reinstall). Have never had that happen before. Otherwise everything else is good.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] parleyp:
Thanks for responding on ICS. I was in one of my houses that I am trying to sell so it doesn't have any utilities except electricity and had to work from there. I use the HERMES for internet when I am in situations like that. I really liked the rom but had to replace it so I could work. I look forward to a new version.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TechBill:
I am one of those folks who depends on Internet Sharing. I travel a lot for my busniess and use it almost every time I go on a trip.

Please restore it in your next version :D

Thank you!

Bill
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] DvDark:
thanks

i need this
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] natesiy:
Is there a way to add in VoIP and internet calling services back into your ROM?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] softonic123:
so far im convinced. really like this rom, keep on!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kipe:
yes..we do! :D ..good to hear that CRCinAU ..have flashed to yours for a while yesterday, & really liked what i see.. but then again, ICS was not there.. so have to reflashed again.. looking forward to an updated version (even better the full released) of this ROM.. cheers!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] thedeva:
ICS

Yeah, I'm in that boat too. Travel heaps and really rely on ICS to keep in touch with my ever growing email. So it would be great if it would be in V.6

Dev
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Prerna:
Wanna give it a try, as I can't anymore stand the slowness I experience nowadays. Let's hope the battery drain is acceptable as well.

Will it work properly with Radio 1.43? I read in other threads that 1.54 was advised with WM 6.1, although I don't clearly understand the issue here, if any.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CRCinAU:
I personally use 1.48 - I was running 1.54 but I flashed back trying as I was trying to fiddle directly with the radio ROM and then just couldn't be bothered flashing back to 1.54...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] m0nkm0nk:
Thnx for adding the Internet Sharing! :)

To anyone:

How can i disable the SMS conversation window ? To just the old stye?

Found solution

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]

"SMSAvailable"=dword:1

Is it possible to set this as an option or something?

Cause i dont have any regeditor ;o