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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] volcolm:
I just got this phone yesterday, charged to 100%. Updated it over WiFi without having any accounts linked yet. After half an hour of updating/rebooting 3 times, factory reset and installed/updated apps and linked accounts to it accordingly - a fresh start so as to not have issues. So far battery life seems okay for standby. I'll let it drain all the way down to 15% before I can post any accurate numbers. So far I've got a few apps that do have background activity (and one causes the phone to vibrate notifications) but from what I've noticed maybe 1 or 2% drain over my bedtime hours.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] gtaadicto92:
The airplane mode standby drain bug is back.

I lost 15% overnight on airplane mode.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] ALEXH-:
Hey guys

Can anyone shed some light on my extreme drain by 'Device Idle'?

I've updated to Oreo and my battery was average. I then did a factory restore and this is what I'm dealing with ATM.

Any input is appreciated

Thanks

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] vojopd:
Try turning off AOD. Device idle is normal, when you pull phone from charger, it starts counting, simple (except 14% battery used). I listened to couple people on forum, and turned high peformance mode on. I can say for now that it is better.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] ALEXH-:
Thanks for your reply. I thought it didn't work but after a second charge to 100% it seemed to have fixed the issue. I have also put 'optimised' back as high performance was a tad too bright at times. I'll give it a few more full cycle charges before turning on the AOD again. Thanks for your help.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] vojopd:
I am using high performance mode for almost 5 days, and it is better for me. You can set up brightness in each mode. But it is never to bright, summer is comming :D.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] glacies:
Wow! But how?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] mupet747:
wooot....howw ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] casur:
Monitored the wake locks and stopped things from working in the background that shouldn't be. I also soft blocked bixby. That's the quick fix. I did a bunch of other things too, but stopping the wake locks and negating background use made the most impact.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] omer7:
How did u soft block bixby?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] casur:
permissions, app settings, and greenify if I'm not missing anything. I am still getting a consistent .2 per hour
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] gyuri81:
How did you filter out the wake lock?

my battery...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] casur:
Gsam with adb admin
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] EarlZ:
Rooted device?

0.2% per hour is bloody awesome! I get 1.2% per hour but thats with AOD still pretty huge!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] tel033:
What can I do if it shows Google play services in gsam (wakelock) and uid en betterbattery stats ?

It started after oreo. I couldn't take it anymore today so I wiped the cache. I don't think it worked either

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] EarlZ:
I turned off AOD for a few days and I am getting 0.2% drain per hour of deep sleep. Are there any AOD mods to keep it at lowest brightness, I noticed AOD is a little too bright at times.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] gyuri81:
0.2% drain per hour of deep sleep?????

how?? at about 1% / hour
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] volcolm:
I get similar (0.2/hr) or better. Updated to latest OS update. Keep everything stock otherwise. I don't use third party monitoring crap because it can do just fine with a combination of Samsung's power saver along with Android settings .. works for me (I use what the phone already has otherwise it's just adding unneeded bloat).

Settings > Connections > Data Usage > Data Saver "On"

Power Saving: Medium with all apps monitored (disabled in background).

All apps in settings:. Disable background data manually.

I get anywhere from a day or two from full charge so it's about as aggressive as Huawei phones for not having stuff running all the time.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] petzku:
Im really frustrated with my exynos note 8's batterylife. Im getting only about max 4h of sot. Im mostly using samsung internet, instagram...

Screen resolution fhd+, usually brightness only 50%.

Solid 4g network, wifi@ home, bt on all the time( connected to gear s3).

No gaming, no gps usage..

I've done factory resets, i've installed latest firmware with odin and still oreo is sooooo sucking up the battery like crazy.

Any help would be much appreciated.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] sefrcoko:
Chrome has a higher drain per hour than Samsung's browser, so you could disable it and just use the latter.

Your deep sleep could be higher too (mine is 94%, for example). You can use the Note 8's built-in app power saver to put some of the more active apps to sleep. I usually just put most to sleep by pressing 'save power', along with a few permanent exceptions in the 'unmonitored' group and some other stuff I don't care about in the 'always sleeping' category.

My auto-brightness is usually closer to 30% too (although I do use WQHD+ instead of FHD).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] HermesHidayat:
i had very bad standby drain before i turned off "allow background activity" for Instagram...after turning off i had way better standby drain.Instagram had 11 hours and 52mins of background use and 18mins of active use.whereas Whatsapp had 5 hours and 14mins of background use and 43mins of active use.(weird thing is i use Whatsapp more than Instagram)

around 23 hours and 35mins on battery with 4hours and 27mins of Screen usage.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] EarlZ:
Just switching off Facebook, Facebook Messenger and Facebook services on the "Allow background" activity and nothing else. I wish AOD would be more power efficient.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] alan_uk84:
So I've just received a Note 8 and installed all updates on it. I feel like my battery is ok in standby but as soon as i begin using the phone, it probably drains about 1% every 4 to 5 minutes once the screen is being used. Does anyone else find this is an issue? I also restored a backup from a Xiaomi phone that had no battery issues. Do anyone think it's worth resetting the phone and installing all applications from scratch one at a time?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] sefrcoko:
What is your brightness set to? And what app(s) are you using when it drains at 1% every 5 minutes? Some apps drain faster than others...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Reshikrom:
So I have every bloatware like fb disabled. Background activities for many apps turned off. But since last update I guess device on standby /idle is on second place on battery stats right after screen. Idk what to do next. Tried everything. Accu battery and wakelock detector don't show anything suspicious. Help haha thx
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] lbreak:
No help coming, this is what every Android (especially Samsung) ends up doing. Draining for nothing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Limeybastard:
Yep, it's like the opposite of fine wine, turns to turd after some time
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] sefrcoko:
Post your battery stats...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] lbreak:
What diff will it make - everything will hide behind Android System and OS, or Device Idle.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] sefrcoko:
Not necessarily, there's still some helpful info there such as total standby time, screen time, standby, device idle, etc. It's better to provide available details than to provide none...If anything, it at least adds context.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] whitehawk66:
You should remove or freeze all of those google apps you don't want or need or use. I think your battery life and idle time will greatly improve.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Biftor:
Hey guys

Look at my screen shot

Does it normal?

I have lost 7 percent in less than 6 hours

Without data enable or wifi ... i haven't many apps ...

What should i do?

around of 5 month passed when i bought it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] avatar_ro:
you surely have a rogue app.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Anonymously_Unknown:
There is no standby drain on my phone unless I leave Always on Display enabled. In that case, my battery life drops by 1% per hour.

I love my phone's battery life, and I believe Samsung got the battery life claims perfectly with this phone (N950F Exynos model)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Jeremydj218:
N950u1

I have had my phone for a while now, and I can not say enough about the idle/standby lack of drain on the battery. I've been in situations with only 15% left on my battery and gotten away with not plugging it in to the charger until 7 or 8 hours later (granted I didn't risk using it much to avoid having to put it into power save mode). I keep the always on display going all the time, and have even had minimal (approximately 1% per hour) drain while running bluetooth. I am however envious of the N960 battery rumors of a 4000 mah battery!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] volcolm:
I've got that but after update it had re-enabled Facebook services.

Before the last update, it was Bixby eating away at standby, I had to disable everything Bixby related. Now I have Bixby enabled without issue -- which is great considering I need the accessibility functions.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Nastrahl:
Do you know or have a link about how exactly data saver is actually working?

Thanks.

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I always felt that the screen brightness is too bright but I like having the auto level on so this is what I did:

1. Settings, screen activate auto brightness.

2. Cover the sensor,

3. Wait until the brightness doesn't go down anymore,

4. Lower the brightness to the minimum,

5. Uncover the sensor.

It will readjust automatically but based on a lower level.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Ningboren:
Since last weekend, my phone will lose 20% overnight while on power saving mode; I have no idea what happened. Check the battery usage status in the setting find no visible sign.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] sefrcoko:
Must be a rogue app draining power that doesn't show in the battery usage screen. Installed anything new around that time?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Dbj.Dhaval:
I am using deluxe rom with mad max kernel and for last 1 month no matter what rom or kernel I use after 20% the will start draining like anything ie it will die in 3 to 4 mins and sometime as soon as it hit 20% it will die..using the same apps as before.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Ningboren:
Letgo, Macy's, Opensignal Onenote and Office Lens. But I have checked battery usage for each app, but all of them shows 0% usage.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] sefrcoko:
Sometimes I noticed certain apps draining my battery but they don't seem to register any official usage. You could try using a battery monitor app, as this can show more usage details/patterns not seen in stock software. Otherwise I would remove the suspect apps, see if battery life returns to normal, and if so then begin reinstalling them one by one and testing until you find the problem app.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] volcolm:
It seems like the past two updates I've had to factory reset this phone. Anyhow, here's after a full factory reset and no power saving enabled. The following has been observed using more than necessary battery and data in the background... Oh Samsung how you like to promote phone battery longevity in your recent ads, yet your background services like to do so otherwise... :D

https://imgur.com/a/aDvzkUu

This is from 100% charge. Facebook posted for comparison. Battery charged from 100% with about 30 minutes of actual phone on-time. Both services used 20% of battery each in 5~8 hours. Why is this? Who knows, perhaps Samsung wants to explain that one?

This is why your phone is dying early. I mean, here's your proof! As I said before, disable background data and background activity of these apps, problem solved.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] kasiopc:
Those services are part of the Android System process. So they are not using 20% each, it is 20% for the whole Android System process.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] winol:
I have not updated my 950F since I bought it on Nov 2017, It is running on 7.1.1, stock, I like its behaviour as it is, It usually eats 1.2% per hour in standby, aod on, wifi on, no saving modes, I use entertainment mode and autobrightnes, I am a little reluctant to upgrade to oreo, as I see many posts regarding these batt draining issues, but what would be your advice?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] drmilosh:
Idk, i feel like the battery is a bit better on oreo but.. Tbh, i only used nougat for a couple of weeks before updating so..there is that.

With aod on and also wifi on drain is about 2-4% /h but only if i dont use the phone at all, and is more than 5%/h with data on..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] 5ense:
Keep it in Nougat

Hi ! I am from México too. Mantenlo en Nougat, keep it in Nougat . When I updated it to oreo, I thought it would be better in a matter of battery, but believe me, it only got worse, before it lasted up to 35 hours of battery with 7-9 hours of screen on time, including using bk disabler to disable services and applications useless bloatwere I had 12 hours of SOT running. Today with Oreo the most I can achieve are 12 to 22 hours of battery with 6 - 7 of SOT without using Always On Display, with active AOD, it almost reaches 6 hours and that taking care of the battery, using black backgrounds, wifi sleep , and removing background applications always. I regret updating to Oreo, partly because I also lost the use of bk disabler and the ability to disable useless services and applications. Oreo changes are not worth it, all of them are graphic . Stupid samsung and it's bloatware
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] gyuri81:
The phone is connected to a Gear S3, but the active Bluetooth connection causes the battery drain. This is normal?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Schalk.Bez:
Just want to share my experience with standby battery drain on Oreo.

I'm sitting currently with 75% battery left after 21 hours very light use (SOT so far 51 min) so it is basically in standby for the past 21 hours.

Always on:

Wifi

Bluetooth

Mobile Data

Location (battery saving mode)

NFC

Sync

Always off:

Auto Rotate - this is a battery sucker since my first android device (Galaxy S2)

AOD

All I did was to do a full factory reset, install all apps afresh (not from backup) and thereafter cleared the cache partition and restarted the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] sefrcoko:
Yes bluetooth connections will consume battery life of course.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] stormy_ugur:
i hate battery performance of this phone anymore. i guess i'll change this. i done factory reset on couple days ago but battery draining so fast.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cseboux:
Hi all,

I am facing standby drain issue for long time and tried almost everything: factory reset. Removed apps, clean cash...

Still there is something strange concerning TMD4906 proximity sensor: by the end of the day I have many hours and thousands of occurrences when I check with gsam.

I searched on the net but only found old forums...

Does someone experienced same thing ?

Just for info I usually have my note in my pocket.

Thx for your help !!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] glacies:
Samsung activates the proximity sensor when you are on mobile data. Stream something and use another phone's camera to see the sensor. It will turn purple.

No idea why it does that, it just does. There is no way to deactivate it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Nastrahl:
Is that something to do with the proximity device search in the connection settings?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] iceepyon:
I accidentally left my Note 8 on while I was sleeping and the battery drain was barely noticeable.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MrMike2182:
I'd say my phone does sleep because I still get pretty much all day long worth of power even after having used the phone for over a year almost.. For instance today I took the phone off the charger around about 8 this morning and it's now 1 am in the morning and I'm about to put it on the charger with still 20 percent battery life left.. You can see it in the pictures.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] petzku:
Thats amazing! Are you using a custom rom and or kernel?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MrMike2182:
Nope.. Samsung firmware. I have everything I don't need or use either removed or disabled and since the day I've got this phone I don't ever let it go below 20 percent unless I'm trying to test the battery times like I did in those pictures and I don't charge above 90 percent either.. There's not a ton of apps on my phone and the brightness is never past half way up so I get good battery life.. I also reboot weekly and clear the cache in recovery weekly too!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] petzku:
What did you remove and what did you disable and with what? We want details. Those SOTs seams so unbelievable... :D
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MrMike2182:
That would take me awhile because I've disabled around 80 apps.. I do it through ADB command line which most people don't know how to do or how to use it.. I would suggest using a type of package disabler app but I'm not going to recommend the one on the play store because that person ripped a lot of people off including myself because I paid for several different phones to be able to use that app and the owner decided to update the app and toss everyone's license key in the trash forcing people to have to either buy it again or use something else.. If people learn how to use ADB it would be easier and look something like this.

pm list packages -e | grep 'calculator'

package:com.android.calculator2

pm disable com.android.calculator2

Package com.android.calculator2 new state: disabled

It's pretty simple.

Also with apps that you do use but don't use all the time you can go to device maintenance and set those apps to always sleeping so they don't sit there running in the background all the time. With them set to always sleeping once you close out of it, it's put to sleep automatically.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] gleesl:
well.. a few days ago i slept at the office around 11pm and forgot to bring my charger.. the phone's battery was at 37%.. but when i woke up at around 4-5am it is at 4%.. roughly 6 hours only and the battery drained quicker than the sewage behind my house.. what gives?

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hey bro, how did you manage to get night mode in your settings?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MrMike2182:
Use Samsung's themes..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] marcaff:
Hello, I saw you have great battery, mine doesn't seem to get as near as your on a good day I can get 6hour SoT. Do you happen to know if this is right? On my screen shot idle device is consuming battery, is that amount fine?

And, those packages you listed what they do? Is there any guide that you could share? Thank you.

[MENTION=309187]edit[/MENTION]; I took it out of the charger today 7:30am and right now is 8pm, sitting of 40% battery. Almost 3hr screen on.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MrMike2182:
I'm pretty sure there's probably a guide if you search on Google or possibly on xda itself but I didn't follow any guide I taught myself how to do that long ago.. Your battery amount that you're getting could be because of the mobile data connection(you use the telephone a lot) since I'm almost always on a wifi connection I don't keep mobile data on at all and do everything through the wifi connection. The apps that I disabled are apps that I don't use at all or rarely.. You can disable them by going into your app list and going through every single app and the ones you don't need either uninstall if you can or disable if you can't uninstall them... Regarding system apps some of them can be disabled however I suggest Googling what each specific apps for before disabling them because if you disable the wrong one you're going to end up in a boot loop and be forced to factory reset and start all over which I learned the hard way so don't just blindly disable things!! 6 hours screen on time is actually pretty good.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] marcaff:
Thank you a lot! I'll try to keep my mobile data off, and control better my brightness... it's set to auto so sometimes it's at 100%. I'll look into the packages thanks again! I appreciate the reply!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] marcaff:
Thanks a lot, im doing this right now and checking each package, im using the APP I think is the one you mentioned. seems to work... Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] djtomex:
i lose between 4% and 10 overnight , with no wifi on or any other things. That can be adjusted quickly just reset the phone every time you feel like the phone is slow. I literally go back to having a brand new phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Nastrahl:
Samsung one is supposed to "remember" your usage and set the brightness accordingly to it but I don't know if it's working well.

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For people that might ask themselves about the sensor, it's passive so it doesn't use battery at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] iowamoe300:
1% would be easily attainable if I was able to root and and manage the wakelocks with Amplify. I could also turn off always on screen and lower it a bit as well but I am happy with batt life and I actually like the AOS.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] imatts:
Any reason why my phone isn't entering deep sleep? I don't even have anything on the phone. Just a few games, no social media at all, most bloat is disabled.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] lennie:
maybe you've enabled an app that keeps running in the background, maybe something like Bixby ...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] imatts:
I've disabled everything bixby related. I used BK package Disabler and disabled ALL bloat.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] lennie:
do an experiment, disable BK package disabler or re-enable all that you've disabled, remove BKPD, disable always on display, restart (or have no apps running or social media sync) and see if your phone still can't go into deep sleep. make sure to disable location and NFC.

if does go into deep sleep then try running your social media apps and see if it still goes into deep sleep.

if it does then it's might be something you had disabled in BKPD that is causing the issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MACHEK:
What are you using to see that it's not going into deep sleep?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] masri1987:
Lost 5% overnight on medium power saving mode
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] masri1987:
Before I went to bed and after I woke up
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] :
Tried something last night and put it in Max power saving mode before going to bed. Only dropped 2% overnight! It would be perfect to have as a night mode but for one annoying decision on Samsung's part. They shut down the alarm clock in this mode too! I was late for work today.

If they would just allow the damed alarms to work it would be perfect. Still contactable in emergencies, very low drain.

Edit: I'm a dummy. Just add the clock to the home screen and alarm will work again.