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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cseboux:
Hi,

How did you remove or disable system app ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cavags5:
After use all phones, I bought a used note 8 with 10months, I don't know if is the battery or not, but note 8 have the worst battery I had since S6,

Much worse than normal s8, s8 plus was the best for a flagship, s9 plus was the same, but note 8 is really bad, don't last a day, waiting for the note 9,hope that will be better than the others.

But still will not beat the middle range samsung A6 plus, that last 2 days.

I already know note 8 have less battery, but its a lot of difference.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] anwar amu:
I used Packade Disable Pro
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] gyuri81:
Hi! Nice SOT :)

Which system app will you disable?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] anwar amu:
Here's the list m8
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] vojopd:
Hit back buttom when using an APP? HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] dharani811:
Note 8 has improved a lot.From 4 hrs of SOT to almost 8 hours.

Like others I didn't disable anything and screen resolution was on FHD with mobile data on.

1.weta kernel

2.light rom

3.big and little CPU'S Locked at 1435 frequencies

4. Black theme
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cricketgirl90:
I take my phone off charger at 6.30 am. Then head to work. Back home at 4. Till then my battery varies between 55 to 70% depending upon how many pictures I've taken and used snapchat. Yup all days two fb two whatsapp Viber Twitter all running.. AOD on QHD+ display no power saving.. none of the system apps disabled.

So after I reach home or sometimes go else where after... by 6 p.m. it hits 40%. If i don't charge it it'll probably last me till 10p.m which is when I am near my charger. But I just charge my phone for 20-25 mins at 6 p.m. till 70-75%. And at night at 11 plug it in...

I have no battery anxiety this way nor I have to undergo a hassle of managing my phone... I get 5 to 6 hrs of SOT with good 45-50% remaining. And it also keeps my phone battery healthy. All in all.. not bad
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] YasuoX99:
I'm doing the same thing actually and getting 6+ hours on QHD+ and my battery health still 100%
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] anwar amu:
Update. 11 Hours 7 minutes SOT
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Dchoi229:
Wish I could hit those numbers. Are these numbers actual usage? Actual usage as in going out not using WIFI.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] YasuoX99:
I'm a college student so from 10:00 am to 4 pm I will be in the college using 4g all the time then when I get home it will be WiFi all the time that's my usage
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Dchoi229:
I can't touch those numbers. I get 5 hours max from 95-0%.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] vojopd:
You can get 11 hours, just read books :D.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] anwar amu:
LOL, maybe. Maybe not. It's all depends on how you handle your device and how you manage your google & samsung account synchronization.

FYI , limiting android background process is quite helpful to make your battery last longer -Including disabling apps that you don't use.

Setting brightness not to high is also makes some difference in battery used.

FYI again. I offten use FB app, i use dual messenger - WhatsApp and browsing a lots.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] anwar amu:
This are some hints
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] anwar amu:
Some more hints.

By turn off google activity we could achieve less wakelock and alarm in our beloved android. And it really impact on battery usage. Just turn off features that you don't need.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Dchoi229:
Trust me I've disabled all of those already. I just don't get great screen on time. However, I do have the dual sim variant of the note 8 and it's probably because I'm using two active sims. Sometimes even with one sim I wont get anything close to 6 hours unless I'm on my phone for 6 hours straight.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] vojopd:
2 sims in note 8 works very bad considering battery. 6h Sot is great.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cavags5:
The sync only works if it is on, so that's not a problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] anwar amu:
That's is my point. By selectively turn of features and services that we don't used, we could achieve some juice in our battery
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cavags5:
Even with that note 8 battery is very bad, and I had, all phones, s8 plus and s9plus are much better, almost 3h sot more same set up.

And the middle range A6 plus, last twice.

Could be the battery, I bought it used, but anyway more couple weeks I will test note 9, I thinking that will be the best in battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MDSLHC27:
Seems pretty horrible... Will barely eke out 4 hours of screen on time.

The saving grace for this phone is its screen which I really enjoy using. I've come from the pixel 2 xl, oneplus 6 and v30+ and the note 8 seems to be the worst of the bunch for battery
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MrMike2182:
I'm not really sure why some people get bad battery life but maybe it's from whatever apps they install and use daily? I generally get 8 to 10 hours SOT but I have the brightness turned down because I don't need it at maximum and I also have lots of stuff I don't use disabled.. For every 10% of battery I get about an hour worth but that's if I'm not doing anything battery intensive..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MDSLHC27:
Well unfortunately same setup with other phones and none as bad as this. Of course you tweak all you can but it doesn't make sense to me to disable the features I would want to use.

I kept AOD on due to the lack of ambient display, mostly stock except disabling some unnecessary sensors.

Think I've found the culprit - bought this note 8 second hand with about 349 battery cycles and 90.52% of the original battery capacity.

Even with full original battery capacity it'd last me around 4.5 hours of sot which is just above average
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MrMike2182:
Maybe it is the amount of cycles.. I've been sitting here on the phone for a little while now since it's my day off and this is what I have in the battery status settings..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Raja7142:
Is that from one single charge....Cant believe it despite seeing the graph. Can you please point out how what's wrong here?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Raja7142:
If I am not wrong there is a list of processes to be blocked that can be automatically applied after one click can anyone please share that link/procedure here.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MrMike2182:
Greenify is a really good app! That one will definitely tell people what's using so much power!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Raja7142:
So greenify is the main culprit but I use it to force stop all apps running in the background. So shiuld I delete it and rely on default battery optimization app??
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MrMike2182:
What I did was used greenify for a week so it could get all the details it could get and after a week I analyzed everything seeing what was using to much power and checking the wake locks which there were a lot of and then I one by one disabled the apps that I didn't use I also made sure that apps couldn't sit there an run in the background I also went into the connection settings and went through every single app and ticked the "allow background data" to off because if it can't use data then they won't have much of a reason to be running..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Raja7142:
So after making an analysis I should delete Greenify itself?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MrMike2182:
Yes you won't need it after that once you know what's doing what.. If you have a problem later you can always use it again.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] gyuri81:
2day 5h SOT ( 2day active bluetooth Gear s3)

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] kanej2006:
In my case very poor battery life, so bad I have just put my Note 8 for sale...

Getting anywhere between 2-4 hours. Even standby drain is poor. Needs charging every other day with barely any use.

On the other hand, my Xiaomi Mi Max 3 gives me an average of 11 hours SOT...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] vojopd:
Are you really comparing mi max 3 5500 mAh with note 9 ~3300 ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] glacies:
I'll kill for something like this. Mine sharing your setup?

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I'll kill for something like this. Mine sharing your setup?

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I'll kill for something like this. Mine sharing your setup?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cavags5:
note 8 have very poor battery,, with barely 4.3 to 5h sot in 4g and a little of wifi when arrived home.

now in note 9 4.3h is until 50%,i send the note 8 to warranty to replace it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] anwar amu:
Just disable features that you doesn't need
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] vojopd:
My best since I bought note 8.

Cant post pictures...

https://imgur.com/a/J4HUWW8
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] rew2:
Try and beat that! :cowboy:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] vojopd:
Voice calls only? Nah.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cavags5:
my note 8 come from warranty, with new display, and now battery is last almost as my note 9, that's really a big difference, I will use a couple more days to see how it goes, but its way better.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cavags5:
What is this?

are you kidding with us.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] rew2:
It is hard to believe indeed. :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] vojopd:
Without any apps, not hard to achieve that :). Keep your screen on all the time, that's it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cavags5:
do you really know the meaning of SOT?

when we mean screen on time, it's from 100% to 1% not a little of charge in the middle.

that is nothing and mean nothing, there is nothing to beat.

in a full charge you don't do more than 6h 7h.

so don't came here to spam the thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] vojopd:
He charged his phone fully then says 11h sot, hahahaha. That is level 1000 of stupidness

Edit: 100 percent + ~ 70% 2nd charge
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] rew2:
Lol thanks for that scientific clarification to a truly sophisticated scenario.

Try to put your phone to charge and reply on this thread telling how the graph and timer will look like!

Will they start from 0?!

I advise you to think before writing on public forums, especially when you accuse me of spamming!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cavags5:
My friend, I'm not accusing no one.

if I'm not clarifying nothing, whats the meaning of your post?

just to make fun.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] stonedpsycho:
The guy you was replying to is correct. I feel you have taken it the wrong way...

Here is my screenshot of my battery usage, as you will see, 100% to 10% with no charge in between.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77805993&postcount=472
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] anwar amu:
Please install Wakelock Detector, it will helps you analyze whats is taking your battery juice.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] MrMike2182:
Some people really think we're stupid on here.. It is what it is nowadays though.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] rew2:
Cavags5 I owe you apologies! You are right and I was wrong. As far as I remember that was the scenario on my old Note Edge, I guess Android had evolved :))
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] xtzi:
I think these threads miss one key detail in my opinion.

Ambient temperature.

I live in Israel and most of the year it's very hot, in the summer especially, temps raging from 30-40 degrees outside (Celsius), when I'm visiting Europe for example I get about 2 hours of SOT more then at my home country.

It would be helpful in my opinion when posting SOT to address the ambient temperature at which the device was mostly used.

Also case\no case\thin case might make some difference in heat dissipation.

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In an unrelated topic, how about a thread of "battery health", I have my note 8 for exactly one year now, tested my battery health with the Accubattery app and it shows I have about 2850mAh left (87%) health.

13% in itself doesn't seem a lot, but in my understanding if at the end of the day I'm left with 20% now, one year ago I would have 37%, but somehow I also believe my logic is flawed somehow on the matter.

I charge my phone about three times a day, it's horrible.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] cavags5:
hey mate, Damm 3 times charging in one day is a lot, and you are right, the heat affects the battery of course., we know note 8 have poor battery, but 3 times a day it's a lot, I don't do that since S3 S4, maybe the better choice is note 9 or Huawei mate 20 pro, I have note 9 and makes difference in battery and heat.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] petzku:
Fresh install of DeluxeRom 9.4. Havent had this great batterylife since the first few months after i got this at release... Seriously badass rom out of the box!

First 4hours of sot was 4g+ and wifi at home. The rest was at 4g+ at work, with not so good reception. Bluetooth connected all the time to my gear s3 and later to my peltor work headset.

Usage was mainly samsung internet beta and youtube vanced.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] sunking101:
I'm getting great battery life again with the December security patch. It hasn't been this good since around June/July.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] genziutek:
Stock 8.0, no root. Black theme, Package Disabler.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] haris2887:
what do you mean package disabled ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] genziutek:
Sorry, Package Disabler PRO app - disabled 54 apps from Samsung.View attachment 4679725
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Sid_dominic56:
I have been getting very bad sot since the last couple of months, nothing much has changed in terms of my usage, signal strength, etc,. Even tried multiple factory resets, day before yesterday I had to change my phone thrice, I don't even get 3 hours sot on most occasions. Thinking of getting the battery replaced from Samsung, battery has 86% health, I want to how bad is 86%? Or is it normal?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] VuBoo:
Pie ROM and i am just impressed after 1st full charge!

- nightmode

- 50% brightness

- very weak signal, had not even edge cuz i live deep in a forest :D still had LTE [on] to test

- Bluetooth and wifi whole time

- chatting the whole day (i have a cold haha)

- youtube & social media.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] nelson2303:
I noticed an increase in battery life also after adding the December security patch
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Ace42:
Pretty much my first run (literally). Setup some apps, accounts, few calls, and did some sketches. Came with October build, Tmobile variant. And I believe the graph starts around ~75-80%.

Edit: image upload failed

http://imgur.com/a/xlqkTIk
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] wk0308:
so its been like a year, mine dropped from 4.5 hours of SOT to 2 hours of SOT hahahhahaha
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Ace42:
Check battery cycles and wear level with the info app. Battery replacements cost $80 if I'm not mistaken.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Limeybastard:
How do you charge and discharge your phone ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Ace42:
I usually charge to 60-80% and try to stay above 20% on every device. That's why my 6 year old ultrabook has stamina!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] karandevilocs:
battery life and SOT drastically improved in PIE update for me ! it's like a magic for a device with a 1.5yo device to have 5.30hrs of screen time average in first 10 charge cycle since update ! im loving this update so far!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] pooyab:
It's interesting. I had usually around 7 hours of SOT on Oreo. After pie and factory reset, it dropped to around 6 hours. Same apps, network settings, brightness...

I downgraded (for various reasons) and better battery again

My experience is in opposite of most reports with pie.

But overall, after more than one year of intense use, I'm quite happy with N8 battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Cool Person:
Agreed.

I wonder how Sammy pulled this.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] zzThrain:
Not bad
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] DinoBuaya:
Definitely the battery going bad for whatever reasons. Have you been heavily draining it past 20% regularly when you first got the phone?

My wife's S8+ needed a screen change so when she took it to Samsung she also had them swap out the battery even though just 1 year old and was still doing ok-ish. But man! the improvement in battery life is huge.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] zainmerchant:
I got this phone a month ago and love it but the battery timing is ****. I hardly ever ger 4hrs+ SOT. Android system is always too high and I dont know how to fix it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Pirer:
Hi,

If i turn off/delete packages(bloatware) by adb or package disabler then really give me better results of SOT ? Now i've got about 3 hours...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Limeybastard:
Depends , sometimes if you disabling wrong packages can decrease battery usage.

Go to your developer options and see what's running all the time. Also try and put as many apps to sleep under battery settings as possible.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] James.Markham0757:
I'm not getting good battery like this at all.

How do we check battery health percentage.

Like battery health: 85% of 3300mah.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] diablo925F:
In AccuBattery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] genziutek:
I am happy with my battery... Only 1 hour on Wi-Fi . Blocked not used apps, HD resolution, black theme
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] costinhas:
Can you post the firmware informations from your N8? Which version are you using? I've tried almost every one and never got 5hs SOT.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] danilisilva7:
After October update battery seems very good

-Auto brightness

-high performance mode

-No background app restrictions

-AOD on
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] esmakubs:
3 hours

Why do I only have 3 hours of screen time?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] iceepyon:
I have had my N950N for about 2 and a 1/2 years now. I can still easily get a full days use out of it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] umair239:
It's okay to disagree. I have simply stated my experience. You can use the package disablers & root etc and compare your sot with someone who hasn't and see the difference yourself. It probably has to do with Samsung's software having integrated apps that have to be running in the background in order for the phone to work without any hiccups, kinda like when no disable apps you have to have some apps enabled like Samsung launcher otherwise you get error message. I think the same way, some of the apps that you disable still try to turn on & cannot which keeps forcing the system to try to start them thus consuming more battery.

Android system starts to eat the battery more than the screen if you disable & root packages. It doesn't always happen right away but it does happen within a day or two from my experience. I tried disabling the packages in Note 8 and I instantly got horrendous battery life. I am talking 2:30 sot which is downright embarrassing. Say what you will mate I am just now messing with the apps anymore. When the system lets you disable most of 3rd party apps you don't need any fancy disablers and root is simply cancer but that's just my opinion
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Demonface.24:
if you really want a debloated firmware just flash the unlocked firmware for your device, that way everything that's not needed is already removed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Torquemada288:
Pretty strong statement there. How exactly is root akin to cancer? Surely that would depend on how the user utilises their root abilities. I wouldn't own a phone without having Titanium Backup installed and that requires root. Decent file managers also require root. Same goes for FasterGPS and BetterBatteryStats. How is root, or the apps that use it, giving my phone "cancer"?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] umair239:
Strong or weak, it's my opinion. You like everybody else has the ability to agree or disagree. My statement is based on years of owning android devices and rooting every single one of them up until two years ago when I finally saw my battery life was terrible. All the Roms that are out there always have something wrong with them, you never get a 100% working Rom. They're either missing GPS or camera lol and that's okay since they're free and someone is taking the time out of their life to develop them.

If you want to root, install third party Roms & disable apps so be it. That's your right. I am only saying I've been there & done that and nothing trumps the battery life & overall stability of the phone than the stock firmware & going root-less. With bootloaders locked its getting more and more difficult anyway. Coming back to bloatware, a few years ago I'd agree that careers put too much bloatware but now it's only exaggerated. I have Note 8 with T-Mobile and it literally had 5 apps that I don't use and I disabled them all. The fact that you have the option to disable them in stock firmware is nothing short of amazing.

I use Smartswitch mostly for msgs & settings and Google's backup to transfer my apps. Yes, you don't get app data transferred but I don't want the app data transferred to a new phone. That's the reason people complain about their latest & greatest devices with ****ty issues like terrible battery life or random reboots, in most cases its because they're using apps like titanium backup and the likes to transfer the app data and such. There's a reason why there are threads full of tips suggesting people to factory reset their new devices every time people have had issues with them lol I can go on and on.

Once again, please pay attention to second half of my statement that you quoted, it's just my opinion.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Torquemada288:
I've also been rooting my devices and installing ROMs for many years and I respectfully disagree with you. My Note 3 is rooted and running Ressurection Remix with the Synergy kernel and my battery life is the best it's ever been even though my battery is a few years old. As far as Titanium goes, I don't use it on a new device, I use it when doing a clean install on the same device (such as when I install a different ROM. I usually dirty flash when updating ROM versions). It's never been a problem and most of the apps pick up where they were last at without an issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] umair239:
Good for you man.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review] Slicktune22:
If its that bad and being that your opinion is your opinion but not a positive one and neither is it a fact....how many years till root is no longer a thing then???? How long till they shut down xda that way ppl don't waste their time rooting since its the wrong thing to do and only makes your device unfunctionable ?[emoji102]