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[HTC U11 Real Life Review] calvinfoo:
Cell standby drain after 1.27 definitely went down, but there is still draining abit. Will do a factory reset to see if it helps also
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] msi.1362:
Unfortunately it seems standby power management has some issues on 1.13.401, hope to see some improvement on next update.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
You think I should select LTE only for Verizon?

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Airplane mode turns off WiFi doesn't it?
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] EtherealRemnant:
LTE only for Verizon since there is no CDMA support makes sense, airplane mode turns off Wi-Fi but you can turn it back on manually and leave the cellular radio off still.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
Yeah standby drain is looking to be pretty awful. I'm gonna reflash back to stock or clean flash viper. I didn't have this issue on my first U11.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] htc_one_mini_m4:
~ 7 hours of sleep time, 3% battery drained.

WiFi off, location on ( precise mode ), cellular signal on and mediocre signal reception in my room, mobile data off.

Pretty good if you ask me.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] beaups:
It's so weird to me how much the media and people talk about how the u11 doesn't support cdma, when it supports it just fine. Or am I missing something?
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] EtherealRemnant:
Verizon hasn't actually allowed the device on their network, only B13 LTE because of open access rules forcing them to. So while it supports CDMA (as we know from specs and the fact Sprint sells it with full CDMA), HTC is selling the U11 to Verizon customers as being compatible when in reality, Verizon hasn't actually whitelisted it for their network. It doesn't use CDMA or band 2 and 4 LTE, just band 13.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
Yes Verizon is pretending to finally let us bring our own device but refuse us full access, only band 13 and no one will tell us the truth as to why. It has been an absolutely horrible experience for us Verizon users who love HTC and love this phone. We need a savior.

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HTC keeps telling me it's not a cdma device, it is gsm that is why we only get band 13. I've talked to so many HTC reps and Verizon reps and no one will tell us the truth. They keep blaming each other.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
So are you getting cdma to work on verizon? I didn't quite understand.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
So what has been everybody's cell standby drain and idle drain on average? My idle drain has been about 8%, seems a little high and sitting here at my house on wifi my cell standby is showing about 24%
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] dangtoi1993:
any idea to fix Cell stanby drain battery problem??
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] harkirat01:
There is definitely some standby drain due to cellular network. It keeps varying but overnight the phone loses 7-8% battery. Reception is also bad at my place so could be more cause of that. Will check in a better reception area.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] avatar_ro:
there is no issue, it's normal to have it there because the cellular reception is draining your battery.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] dangtoi1993:
but i too high compare to other phone
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
I say the same thing. I have had 2- U11's and my first U11 had much better cell standby drain. It kinda sucks cause it seems I was getting double the battery life on my 1st U11.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] htc_one_mini_m4:
Almost a month with my HTC u11, and I've seen it drain just 0.5% per hour lately during sleeptime ( cell on, mobile data off, wifi always on, location always on and high performance setting ).

Can't complain about it at all!

3% in 6h35m of sleep.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
I would wake up from a full charge and be under 70%. I tried everything to fix it and nothing worked so I am sending mine back for warranty repair. Hoping they send me a different one cause mine seems hardware related.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] avatar_ro:
that drain is too much. try by closing all your apps before going to sleep and see if the drain is the same. also probably you know that a bad signal can cause drains like that.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
I tried everything. My setup on my HTC phones have been the same for years. I had the 4gb model first and it would last at least a day and a half. Same apps same signal. I'm sending it in for warranty repair.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] GSE20:
I'm having the same issue with cell standby on my dad's phone. Very weird though, since we're both on AT&T and in the same area, but his cell standby is averaging 60+% usage while mines is always under 20%. I could go as long as two full days on a single charge with moderate use and he's struggling to get through a full day on a charge. Not sure what the issue is. we're both on 1.28 and I just can't figure out what's wrong with his phone.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
Yeah like I said, I originally had an HTC U11 4gb model on Verizon and cause of the Verizon issues I sent it back at the 30 day mark to get a refund and reordered the 6gb. My first battery life was amazing, the battery life on my second one is almost dead when I get home from work. I think it's hardware related.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
Maybe have him turn airplane mode on when he sleeps or something to see if there is still drain. Then I would say it's hardware related, maybe the cores aren't working properly. I don't know, I just hope my phone comes back from warranty replacement working as good as my first one did.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] thomasck:
During my sleep time it drains about 0.5% every hour.. Does not bother me, but tonight I will set airplane mode and will report back here!

Edit

Airplane on, same drain, lol
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] con_sau_may_tinh:
alway turn on airplane mode, from 1AM-8AM drain 3%

my htc10 drain 0-1% only :(
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] paulocarneiropaulo:
Hello all!

I just cant understand this Android thing. We should have a tool to know what is draning the batery.

My HTC U11 is a dual sim 128Gb 6 Gb ram, all original oreo.

And on standby screen of, I loose almost 3% per hour...

I see the grafics on the batery and it happens 2 strange things, some times it stays awake withou deep sleep for ours and ours, on the other hand other times when i use it it looks like its on deep slepp. :(

anyway i cant understand so much batery drain withou using it.....

any ideas?

many thanks.

https://imgur.com/gallery/TxenU
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] dijia1124:
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Hello , has your issue solved by warranty repair ?If it does maybe I will have a try on it soon.And ,is your phone changed for a new one or just a repair ?
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
I had horrible drain, I would lose like 30% over night when it was supposed to be in deep sleep. Nothing would fix it. I'm on Verizon so I also had the permanent signal loss issue. So I sent my phone in for repair for two reasons. I pushed for a replacement at first but they refused. They had my phone for 2.5 months and returned it to me but nothing was fixed, just like I figured, all they did was run the RUU and relock it. I was pissed, so they automatically offered me a refund or a replacement, I chose replacement cause I knew this phone had awesome battery life from my first device experience. Now I am getting amazing battery life, 30 hours with 8.5 hours sot consistently. I am very happy.

Repair time turnaround may have gotten better since then, it was during the hurricane in Texas where their warehouse was plus they had a fire so I think they are shipping repairs overseas at that time. But I would push for a replacement, let them know, you already tried the RUU and it did not fix it.

They automatically placed an order for a new device, just like if you were purchasing it but they wouldn't send it till they received the old device. I almost had to pay for shipping costs again until I asked for a paid shipping label.

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You may have the same problem I had, 3% an hour when it should be in deep sleep is too much. My phone stays in deep sleep a little over 90% of the time when the screen is off, probably under .5% an hour. I couldn't be happier with my battery life now.

If you tried running an RUU and the problem continues I would definitely get a replacement. I'm very happy I did. But they may force you to do warranty repair first. I would not make it easy for them.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] dijia1124:
Thx for reply !

Last question…Is the 8.5hrs battery life run in Wifi or LTE? I found my battery is pretty good in Wifi with almost 10 hrs sot but only 5hrs in LTE for daily use (if keeping using the phone in LTE ,it will be 8-9hrs like.'Network stanby' is the battery killer )
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
I get about 30 hours with 8.5-10 hours sot on Wi-Fi and about 24-26 hours with 6-8 hours sot on LTE only. Either way, for the first time in my life I never have to worry about running out of battery. A quick hour charge every night before bed and I'm good for at least 24 hours. No need for a bigger battery unless you are stranded somewhere without a car lol. Best battery life I've ever had.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] 92lleo:
High Drain

I'm on android oreo and had about 1-2% drain over night. but suddenly it was about 40-50% checking detailed battery logs it seemed like mobile data was the problem. after letting the phone in airplane mode over night, the drain reduced to ~15 percent, which still seems too much. After checking the battery logs again, wakelocks for location serivces showed up. After clearing google play services data, this was gone, too.

Battery drain over all is still high though. Guess I'll have to factory reset it soon, will monitor until then.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] Cryptycat7:
Without a BBS log I can only guess, but google background backups would be the first suspect I'd name. Just check out if turning off backups in Google photos backup helps. Especially if you are connected to Wi-Fi and recorded some videos in 4K, thats enough to keep the phone awake for hours. Around one percent drain per hour is considered normal as a rule of thumb. Better Battery stats gives you insights on what keeps your phone awake. All apps coded by facebook are infamous battery drainers. I don't use Facebooks spyware. Unless the phone is syncing while I sleep my standby time is really good.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] waltnich:
Better than my S7 was
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] LibertyMonger:
I get about .5-1% per hour overnight. In deep sleep over 90% of the time when screen is off. I use boost+ to kill background apps for almost every app except for ones that need to run. 50% autobrightness.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] goldenstar131:
Android O has problems with battery drain, after updating to O, my U11 has very poor battery standby.

Google showed that many devices with same problem when updated to O.

Waiting for Android 8.1 update..
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] GSE20:
US unlocked running the latest update (2.42.xxx.6) and I've been getting great battery life. The only downside of such great battery life is having to charge it at inconvenient times of the day
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] golf12:
I took my phone off charge this morning battery was 100% left it for 15 minutes and lost 2% in that short time. Anyone else experience this? Afterwards it does settle down with about 0.5%/hr standby drain. Running rooted Leedroid with Cleanslate kernel. Will get wakelock details on the next charge
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] golf12:
Found the culprit to be Google play services wakelock fixed with greenify donate version
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] golf12:
Anyone know what this is?

GSam Labs - Battery Monitor - Export Data

ipc000000c5_2160_Loc_hal

30/08/2018 13:39:20

Usage Details

Number of Wake Locks:19171

Total Time (including awake):18m 41s

Wakelock Detail

Included Packages

Included Processes

Just started randomly on my U11 running LeeDroid latest stable Oreo and cleanslate v3.7.16, has happened twice now not sure what's triggering this to happen it's keeping the phone awake.

Reboot fixed it last time, still need to figure out what has caused it.

Shows up under Kernel wakelock.

Stopper after a reboot. Curious to know if anyone else has had this issue.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] beaups:
18 minutes? Who cares?
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] golf12:
Look at the number of wakelocks 15% battery drained in that time.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] pouriya287:
i have terrible battery darin even when i put the device into airplane mode ! and its realy going to kill me every night i have 40 or 50 % battery darin over night ! i chek everything ! the worst part start when the screen goes off ! so what im gona do ! i realy need to back 7.1.1 ! i hate oreo ! and my softwer is 2.33.401.19 ! plz someone help me :(
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] deadlynounou:
I have about the same problem with my U11 for months . I tried multiple roms ( official or not ) but the problem persists, so i thought first that the battery was defective. However after i replaced myself the battery i tested the device and.... The problem persists so i suspected an hardware issue.

I tested the bottom board where the usb connector is located, there is multiple elements connected to it like the buttons, the fingerprint sensor, the vibration motor, etc...

I disconnected most of them alternatively and the only 2 ways i got a normal battery drain was when i unpluged the main command cable or the power cable. ( When i unplug the finger sensor or the buttons, the drain persists so they are not in cause. )

I think that the board needs to be replaced so i ordered one on AliExpress for about 18€ and now i'm waiting for it.

I'm not good at electronic things but i test and i observe the results.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] pinner88:
Im in desperate need or help about this. Past couple of weeks i have been losing about 20% an hour in standy. with battery saver mode on. I cant pin point it to an app or a service causing it. Also it started saying rapid charging. but in fact its charging slowly.

im using latest lineage build rom
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] radiwi:
USB board and standby battery drain

Hi DEADLYNOUNOU,

have you had any success with replacing the USB and charger board in your device ? Very interested in your feedback!

I am experiencing the same topic. 5-6% drain per hour in (usually) deep sleep... Not extremely much but way to high compared with before.

Have been experiencing with ROMs, cache delete, network reset and quite some App changing but always exactly the same behavior.

I do think now it is HW related.

Additionaly I had a few days sometimes a message saying, something is wrong with the charger or the USB plug, remove it to avoid damages on the charging function.

This is gone since 3 weeks and it is still charging - quickly and slowly - but now i have this poor drain.

Maybe a leakage current on a somehow damaged USB and charger board....

Thanks

R.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] 4squer:
I had the same problem. Change USB port resolved it.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] radiwi:
Hi 4squer!

Thank you! just to double check. You kept your battery and only replaced the USB board?

A thirty bucks ebay board did the job ?

Thanks!

R.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] 4squer:
Hi. I changed battery 2 times, but that doesn't resolved problem. Than I changed USB port with new battery, but I'm sure that the problem was USB port. I bought original port, but not on eBay.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] htc_one_mini_m4:
Mine is doing a little better than before.

1% battery drain per idle hour against 2.5% on Oreo.

Same location, same carrier, same settings, everything the same.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] radiwi:
USB board and standby battery drain

Hi all,

changing the USB port/board fixed the heavy drain issue for me as well.

Thanks for helping!

I am now at 0.9% per hour at display off determined with app AccuBattery/Digibites (some 15% per hour at display on).

Before replacement it was 6.5% per hour at display off (and some 21% per hour at display on).

Feel free to share your numbers. Still interested if the 0.9% per hour is an expectable value.

Regards,

R.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] u11boy:
Hi there,

since two weeks my U11 struggles with a sudden battery drain problem.

Until then, my battery would easily last 1-2 days, now it only lasts about 8-12 hours.

At first I thought that some apps (especially google services) or Android Pie's adaptive battery were responsible, so I try pretty much every suggestion I could find on the internet.

Since that did not work out, I decided to go for a factory reset.

However, the problem still exists. I do not even know whether it's a software or a hardware problem:

In Android's battery usage, it says that apps used 58%, the major contributor "Google Play Store" only using 3% though. How does that make any sense?

Before the problem started, accubattery reported a battery health of 96%, now it reports 77% (based on 3 sessions only) and a high discharging speed of about 7%/h even if the screen is turned off.

Unfortunately it seems like I cannot upload pictures here, so please check out the screenshots here:

Battery Usage: "https://ibb.co/W6k9DYZ"

Accu Battery: "https://ibb.co/K74rdWS"
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] radiwi:
Hi,

similar to my case. I also tried to find a software reason for quite some time before I replaced the USB and charging board which solved my issue.

For some reasons this USB board seems to be sensitive to damages or failures - and if it happens it starts discharging.

I also experienced 6-7% per hour.

Regards,

R.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] federix17:
hi, i have the same problem. 7 days ago I replaced the battery at my u11 because it didn't last that long, but the anomaly remained. there is always a high consumption of the mobile network standby item and I can't make more than 3 hours of screen on. So I would also be interested in replacing the USB circuit, where did you buy it?
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] radiwi:
Hi,

purchased at a German supplier.

https://www.ng-mobile.de/htc-u11-usb-c-ladebuchse-flex-kabel/platine

but there are plenty of possibilities.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...leDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=htc+u11+usb+charging

The pretty good availability indicates for frequent issues with exactly this board. I wouldn't expect fakes being around since volume is still not high enough to be rewarding...

Regards,

R.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] federix17:
Hi, I bought the card, I replaced it and the microphone doesn't work, so I reassembled the old one. I was repaid, now I will buy a new one.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] federix17:
I am unlucky. It is the second card that I purchase and now the vibration motor does not work. It will be fate that I will have to keep it like this....
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] federix17:
Good morning, I can confirm that I have finally changed the circuit and everything works but unfortunately the standby consumption is always high. I'm sorry because I don't want to change U11 but so I can't even make 3 hours of screen use.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] diar:
I just received an SMS with 272 characters in one message. The cutoff used to be 160 characters. Any message longer than that would be split into two messages.

Is this just a fluke or are they trying to offer something more for raising text prices? Can anyone else confirm this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] raymondu999:
SMSing is limited by the technology, not the provider. Maybe that was two messages linked up?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kaluzu:
within the body of the SMS you must see sometihn like 1 of 2 and 2 of 2. this will tell you if there are one or 2 SMS you have received, and weer combine into one long message. But the aggreagtion only happens in your phone. I receive 5 SMS and when I read them it's only 1 message.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TurboX2:
thats so crazy.. i didnt kno that windows did that..

another reason why WM6 beats everything
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Completenutter2:
Pretty much all modern phones do this now...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NFRCER:
AFAIK its still 160 characters.... or at least for me.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the HTC U11's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] ibolito:
That's where the HTC U11 shows it is a battery beast. Awesome.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the HTC U11's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] ibolito:
Almost as if the phone is on standby. Wonderful.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Is the HTC U11 as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the HTC U11 is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the HTC U11 is a beautiful phone.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] ibolito:
One of the most beautiful phone ever made imo
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] hammered58:
Watching the Iowa State football game, thier helmet finish looks similar to the red one. If they can put that mirror finish on a helmet and make it hold up , ours should be indestructible. Lol
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] JFriedIce:
Great device!
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] waltnich:
God awful beauty. I can't use a case in good conscience.
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the HTC U11 feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] ibolito:
Premium AF
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the HTC U11 feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] ibolito:
Wonderful
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] kolembo:
Nothing feels like this phone in the hand.

It's gorgeous..very sultry, very smooth...

And the screen feels like so.

I sleep with it!
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] Sheythan...:
Best was M8 ;)

This phone is also awesome
[HTC U11 Real Life Review] ninjeratu:
To me it's a bit heavy and thick. I feel stupid for saying this since it's just 11 grams heavier and 0.5 cm thicker than my OP3... But it IS noticable. The curved back makes it a bit nicer to hold, but it FEELs like an older, less premium phone in my hand.

On my OP3 I have the bamboo case which is basically 1mm thick, while I have a transparent soft plastic case (since i have the red phone and want to see that..) on the U11 and that adds 2 mm thickness. That doesn't help with the "premium" feel, of course.

On all other aspects the U11 is superior, battery life, camera, CPU/GPU. It irks me to no end that Oreo is out for the OP3 and that HTC still clings to that idiotic S-OFF/S-ON crap.. First and last HTC phone for me.