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[Touch Cruise General] Philip:
I am in a slightly different position, as I am on the All Time 200 Pay Upfront tariff (basically I pay £149 a year for 200 anytime minutes, but no texts). I'm happy with this - I only ever use about 20 mins a month - so don't want to change my tariff, but would like to upgrade my Orbit (which I use mainly as a PDA and GPS device) to an Orbit 2.

I rang O2 yesterday on 0870 5860860 and was told that their systems were down and to ring back today on 0800 0321402. Rang that number today and got an automated message saying that I should ring 0870 5860860 instead. Rang that number and was told that the phone was out of stock and that I need to ring back tomorrow, as they are unable to take orders for Out Of Stock phones. Was also told that the handset would cost me £250.

Rang back immediately, got a different operator and was put through to the "Specialist Team" (as I am on such an old tariff). They said that their systems were down and to ring back in an hour.

Was fed up, so went to my local O2 shop. They had one in stock, but when they went to find out the price it had mysteriously been reserved by somebody and was no longer available - but I can have it tomorrow if it's not collected. They also quoted me £250.

I've been an O2 customer for 12 years, and am well hacked off at how badly they are handling the release of this handset.
[Touch Cruise General] wywywywy:
Orbit 2 in most stores today.

And is also on the website (consumer) as well now :D
[Touch Cruise General] r_southampton:
I was also on an older tariff, (Can't remember the name, but £25 pm).

Rang up requesting a PAC code yesterday

Of course the usual questions kick in from a retentions point of view.

I was fairly adamant that I was going (to save money), but asked "out of curiosity" whether the new XDA orbit 2 was in.

Fairly quickly negotiated (by reference to the T-Mobile PAYG and W&W20 (at £22.50/month) to the following position, which I accepted.

Free Orbit 2 (w/o Sat Nav SW), 25pm 200mins/400t/Web-bolt-on + £50 cashback (which brought the rental down to 22.25 on average if I can be bothered to claim. Not too interested in the minutes / texts, but the web bolt on was key.
[Touch Cruise General] maxip:
Hmm - not so lucky here. Have been an O2 customer for 8 years (ish) - my wife uses the phone so is only on Online 15 tariff. Spoke to sales / upgrades who offered me the handset only at £329 or if I wanted to change contract, would be £249 on £20 monthly (18 months). Oh and I'd have to buy out my current contract which runs until December so another £120.

I don't think so - will be looking for a private sale of the O2 or HTC Cruise now.

Not that impressed with O2 TBH.

Maxi
[Touch Cruise General] underzone:
I was a new O2 customer, and got the phone for free also a spare (£20) charger free. This was on a £35 a month for 18 months contract, with 600mins and 500 texts. This saved me a £50+ quid over ordering online, well worth a trip to the O2 store!
[Touch Cruise General] dirty_dog:
picked mine up last night and I love it already before Ive had much chance to play!

much lighter and a bit thinner than my Orange SPV M600. touchFLO is lovely and it seems nippy enough. O2's rom isnt even that bad... im used to Orange's shockers though!
[Touch Cruise General] Philip:
Result!

Rang O2 Upgrades this morning and they wanted £269.99 without CoPilot or £319.99 with CoPilot.

I politely declined this kind offer and went back to my O2 shop, where they sold me the Orbit 2 with CoPilot software for £199.99.

I'm a happy bunny!
[Touch Cruise General] r_southampton:
A few updates to the above -

technically I was with (and still am with) Carphone Warehouse, not directly with 02, and it was carphone warehouse customer services that I dealt.

The package arrived today (10:30 AM, only 20hrs after ordering)

Good news is that all of the SatNav SW and accessories (car holder/charger/memory card, Copilot disk) were in the pack

Bad news is that they forgot to include the 3G compatible SIM, but having spoken to them on the phone, they've agreed to send out a new one.
[Touch Cruise General] chris2403:
What settings do i need to use so i can use my vodafone uk contract sim card and vodafone live/mms etc
[Touch Cruise General] DMAND:
I got my Orbit 2 delivered today after hageling hard for around 50 mins on Monday night. I visted the store to see if it was available and what price I would have to pay. Was told I was on upgrade band C as I only pay around £20 a month (previously my bills were way more than that which is why my original orbit was free) was quoted £240 and I was like :eek:

Rang up that evening and hageled harder than I ever have before in my life, the guy was adament on my tariff his system would only allow a reduction in the cost of handset to around £180 no free bolt ons nothing. After constant thats not good enough.. Ive been with O2 for 5 years etc and having been put on hold a good couple of times In the end he agreed to free phone 600 mins 500 txts Internet bolt on and copiolot for £35 pcm with £5 discount so £30 pcm basically, wouldnt budge any further. I was happy with that because my bills end up around that price anyway but with only 75 mins and 40 txts or something ridiculous like that.

Im happy I've got my new toy, much more proffesional packing compared to the orbit and loads more included too.

Are you meant to get a 3G sim with your upgrade? I never thought about that until I saw r_southampton's post Ive not been sent one either
[Touch Cruise General] gavin-panparks:
Hi

there are better deals to be had! I managed free phone with sat nav and 200 mins/400txt on online texter 25 - normally £25 but £10 discount on 18mth contract.

After reading the posts above I am well pleased as I was only paying £15 for last year as out of country most of time in Romania/Serbia. Phone arrived next day - but has to follow me out here now!

So well worth spending the time haggling! Now I need to sell my old Orbit ....

Gavin

Enjoy and Explore the best of Europes Wilderness www.panparks.org
[Touch Cruise General] chris2403:
Is there any way to get rid of the 3 icons in the bottom right of the today screen, i dont use them and the look bad with my theme :confused:
[Touch Cruise General] nuttyphilt:
Is the Orbit 2 SIM unlocked out of the box?
[Touch Cruise General] BadTasteUK:
Yes! :cool:

I'm using my T-Mobile SIM in it until my number is ported to O2 next week.
[Touch Cruise General] schaggo:
*bump*

Anybody feel addressed by me?
[Touch Cruise General] wywywywy:
With O2, does anyone know if you can still change to a cheaper tariff after six months of signing a new contract?

Or does the same tariff have to be used throughout the entire 18 months?

Thanks.
[Touch Cruise General] r_southampton:
The billing receipt for my deal had a line item for a 3G sim. However, as to whether you need one or not - it depends (I think) on whether you already have a 3g sim. In my case, they'd forgotten to pack the SIM, so I swapped in my old one - which worked, but only in GSM mode. After I phoned, they agreed they'd made a mistake, and credited me with a new 3G sim which I picked up from Carphone Warehouse last night.

Note:

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WARNING RE WEB BOLT ON / UPGRADES.

when discussing the absent Sim with customer services, I thought I'd confirm the web bolt on. "Oh, yes it's included" she said... "It will be active from your next billing cycle - 19th Feb". "What's my current cost / Mb", I said - "£3/Mb" was the answer. Upon which I insisted that data was disabled until the 19th of Feb.

3G web-browsing at £3/MB isn't for me!!

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[Touch Cruise General] delboylee:
You can always go up a tariff (more expensive) but not down. On an 18 month contract, I think you can go down after 12 months, but don't quote me on that!
[Touch Cruise General] magnumforce2000:
O2 said you can change your plan down after 9 months when I phoned them earlier this week.
[Touch Cruise General] rashm:
I think its 9 months if your on a 12 month contract.
[Touch Cruise General] DMAND:
Thanks for the reply, I dont reckon my old SIM is 3G so I guess I'll have to ring up, thanks for the warning about the bolt on too I'll have to remember to enquire about that too.
[Touch Cruise General] richiescorner:
I think that I must have got a good deal, on an existing £25 p/m online deal, I called through to the retentions team and was offered the upgrade for £250! No thanks I replied quickly and with no movement on prices or tarrifs I requested my PAC code. Same day went in to my local O2 store where they had it in stock and charged me £49 for the Orbit II and stayed on my existing tariff (aparently I am a band 'E' customer whatever that means! So I recieved a discount.) so now I am playing with my new toy. Good Deal - what do you think?
[Touch Cruise General] DMAND:
The bands are according to how much your bills come out to each month I think, with A being the lowest, last year I was on F when I paid around an average £55ish a month even though my tariff was £25.

So not a bad deal I'd say, Im surprised that the retentions people couldnt do it for less yet in store you got it for £50
[Touch Cruise General] robboy:
just ordered mine for free on £27 a month 200 mins and text + unlimited internet on a 12 month contract would be £4 a month cheaper on a 18 month contract.
[Touch Cruise General] timpharrison:
Is that an upgrade or new customer? Where did you find that deal?
[Touch Cruise General] robboy:
Upgrade. I kept calling them asking for a deal for a couple of weeks, they wanted £80 + I think they knew I was trying it on. In the end I decided that it wasn't worth the £80 + 18 month contract so I told they guy I didn't want any deals i just wanted to cancel as I was happy with my old Orbit 1. That’s when he came up with that deal but still wanted £30 for the unit. I said if it was for free I would go for it he spoke to his manager and okayed it.
[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] Coppa00:
Ok

Ok
[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] amir-kia:
My mi5s plus 128G charge 0 to 100 in 2h 10m . Its normal ??

0-90 in 1h30 and 40m for 90-100 .
[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] S YILDIRIM:
Mine charges 0-100 about 90 mins. 4/64
[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] amir-kia:
What is your rom ? Are you sure for 90min ?
[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] S YILDIRIM:
Well it was miui8 stable when i clocked this. it s not definite may be a little longer but not much. When i updated to miui9, the time has extended some. Now i m using los15. i will test it and post here soon
[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] chipheo62:
My phone mi 5s plus 4/64

Miui EU Stable, Mod Thermal Throt Optimazer on en.mi.com

Antutu ~~160k, Charging 110 Minute 3% to 100%
[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] dinkan01:
Today I was using my phone with 89% charge.. suddenly it droped down to 26% and dropped 1 by 1 each second.. I rebooted the phone twice..and phine rebooted to 44% and stuck in that for an hour.. and after that it suddenly droped to 9% and switched off.. i connected to the charger.. and from 9% it jumped to 10,11,12 and upto 28% in a minute. any one having similar issues? Am running on MIUI 9.2.1 Global Stable..(MI5s Plus)

thank you
[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] amir-kia:
Hi please you can give me link for install mod thermal throt optimizer ? Im not find it
[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] anetar:
screen-on time 5.30
[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] chipheo62:
My phone mi 5s plus onscreen

On time ~~ 6h
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[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[HTC Vox] Tony2k:
I have opened my smartphone because I have the problem of the speaker but now it never turn on. When I press the button the red led turn on 2 secondes, stop!
[HTC Vox] kosborn2:
I've not had this before and i have had loads of issues with my Vox! Have you tried charging the battery fully then tried turning it on? I did have an issue once where I had some funny lights and it was due to the battery. Why not give HTC a call (if you have another phone to do so!), if you get through to the right person on tech support they can be quite helpfull!
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[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] bmg002:
The OEM skin has an iphone look and feel to it. I replaced it with. If you like the iPhone interface, you will likely enjoy the OEM skin.
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[Networking] Cavey.co.uk:
I have recently been told the following about the way carriers figure out GPRS charges. This is something they were apparently told by someone at O2 UK, but I thought I would check whether it is or is not BS....

Now this raises two issues in my mind.

1) If your phone does the calculations and your phone is hackable, why do people not get free data?

2) This doesn't agree with what I know about networks and how to use them. Surely my phone goes onto a carriers network and gets a private IP, will navigate through a NAT to pick up my email or browse the web and network management tools on the carriers network wil monitor what traffic I cause and this will be polled at the end of the day, thereby accounting for the delay.

Which leads me to a final question - if I am right and the quote is incorrect, how are IPs allocated? Are they static to accounts? (They are private so the carriers could have 256^3 entries) Or are they dynamic? (Because they are lazy and would rather try to update tables as old dial-up ISPs used to do).

Any feedback and/or corrections greatly appreciated.
[Networking] BAMF:
I can't say one way or another with certainty, but my logic agrees with your conclusions. Like you said, someone would have hacked it by now.

Aside from that, I have a couple different phones that I frequently switch my SIM between. What if I use a bunch of data on phone A, then swap my SIM over to phone B, and leave phone A off for weeks or months? Or for that matter, what if I am using one phone with two different SIMs? Say I use a bunch of data on SIM A which has a data plan, then swap in SIM B with no data plan, and then the phone decides to report my day's usage to the network?

I have to think that the phone company tracks data usage my IP. When you request data, the network must have to identify your SIM as being attached to an account with a data plan. Even if they assign a different IP for each session, that IP would still be tied to your SIM. I have to think that they meter your data by your IP address.

If anyone knows for sure (or can poke holes in my logic) I'd love to hear it.
[Networking] Rudegar:
i believe this is the old case of not always being the best and brigtest who are in customer contact support

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service

there are countless cases of support and sales people speaking out their rear end

it would be crazy to put the phone itself in charge of keeping track of what was downloaded

when it's not the case of normal phone calls or sms's or mms's (which also use gprs)

or old analog modems for pc's which is the closest thing one can compare gprs with

could also be something he said to get people to buy grps monitoring software rather then bothering him about their usage or asking for them to supply a service for users to see

and maybe even limit their usage and cost the company a bit of overusage income ;)
[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?

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[Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus Real Life Review] theOriginalSuperl2:
I'd give it an 8/10.

The range is slightly weaker than my old Redmi Pro (it occasionaly used to drop out in my room, my moving my router 5 cm closer fixed that (my router's downstairs)), but stronger than my Surface Pro 3 (it can reach the tube station wifi next door).