yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
If you are planning on replacing the AOSP apps with something else than G-Apps I strongly recommend you to check out the Sony apps. The other option would be to eliminate them altogether and then let the user decide but it would leave the ROM without any contacts and calendar app.

Yet another option is the BlackBerry apps (i.e. BB Calendar, Contacts, Hub etc). I use them and they are great. I also like the BB Productivity Edge.

Perhaps a poll about "AOSP replacement apps that aren't G-Apps" is the thing to do here. My personal recommendation would be for either BlackBerry or Sony apps since they are high quality, no-nonsense and good looking. They also work great on the ROM, i.e. no issues related to "missing framework" or anything.

BlackBerry Manager is a great tool to get those apps:

https://cobalt232.github.io/blackberrymanager/

The BB Keyboard is also excellent (I use it all the time nowadays since it has a very exact input and produce more correct results than other keyboards I have tried so far).

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Download the latest Magisk Uninstaller, run it and flash SuperSU 2.79SR3. That version seems to be the most reliable.

I understand the attraction of Magisk but I prefer SuperSU all day long, especially since it works reliably with all apps including StickMount.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sameermehta1977:
also an update ro my bluetooth and wifi call disturbance issue ,when i use a differenr service providers sim card in phone other than jio and connect to jiofi dongle i can make calls distortion free,:)

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@e90 i have installed 2.82 and it works fine
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
CS Browser or any other CAF/SWE browser built on the latest 60.x version, which is faster than earlier (58.x) would be great as a standard fit.

It works better than Chrome, fast and smooth. I am would recommend such a solution for a "default" browser.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
I don't know the sony or blackberry apps, but you are right, I will make an other poll for that too :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
watch your temps!! amp dropping start's at 37° (yours are 41°) for security reasons, so you need to cool down first. Put it in the fridge and wait for 10 minutes :D
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sameermehta1977:
ok will try cs browser thanks
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
You can get an idea about those apps by either downloading BlackBerry Manager and install them or checking out those videos directly from BB themselves:

http://demos.blackberry.com/priv-by-blackberry/na/ca/gen/how-to/priv-by-blackberry/priv-by-blackberry-overview/blackberry-hub/index.html

The Sony apps are available on the link I posted before (to the Sony Cross-Device development apps).

One key strength of both alternatives are that they run really well on this ROM. The thing is obviously that if the AOSP apps are to be removed and replaced, while users complain if it is G-Apps - other options must do and my personal experience from different devices and ROMs are that BB or Sony offer a decent solution.

I have been using Sony Ericsson and Sony to and from during the years and their apps have always performed well. Perhaps I am also a bit local patriotic because I am born in the same city as Sony Mobile so it could also be that the apple isn't falling far from the tree.;)

Joke aside, they are recommended and you can simply install them and see what you think.

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CS Browser is based on the latest CAF sources and it is really fast. I thought the 58.x based CAF were fast but this is... faster. I was happy with the previous builds but found CS when I was looking for the 60.x base and it was a pleasant surprise.

I think those browsers are the best ones for speed since they are optimized for Snapdragon. Qualcomm doesn't do full builds AFAIK so different developers are downloading the sources from Code Aurora Forum and build them. There are a couple of such browsers here, CS is one, followed by two XDA CAF/SWE builds (one with an auto-updater app) followed by TugaBrowser (also on XDA).
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Okay I will do that, thx. I guess sony apps, blackberry apps or the gapps, all of them would be better than the AOSP ones, because they are just too old and only a handful is using them. I will choose on user request, traditional to my country democratically :D
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
Sounds good. Do a poll. I think those three options are the best ones, especially since I think taking "random apps from Google Play" (such as EX Dialer or Contacts) isn't the best way for "stock apps".

I would make it mandatory/highly recommended for users to try those apps first in order to avoid ignorant reasoning such as: "I have never seen a BlackBerry in my whole life so don't include those apps" or "the last Sony I had was a J5 back in 2001 so don't include those apps".;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] khaled7mailru:
Thanks a lot for your effort! I have a problem gboard crashes when trying to go to it's references ((
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] HannibalLecter:
No Problems with ROM at all

Bud, I suggest you to make another clean flash.

Also, you do NOT need to flash any ROOT solution neither magisk nor Supersu.

Nijel8 builds/tree has LOS Root built in.

Just enable that from the Developer settings and you won't face any issues.

I flashed supersu just to check and faced NO problems.

The ROM works perfectly. All settings are good.

So, unless you need to hide root and those things, try magisk BUT

Only after a full clean flash.

[MENTION=8001680]Davehimself[/MENTION]

I am still waiting for your Substratum fixed build to be uploaded (Hydrogen) and all stock AOSP apps removed.

Till the time we wait for poll results, we can enjoy the perfection that you initiated.

PS: the poll is going to ruin everything. There are all kinds of people here. Some want pico gapps, Some stock.

What you have started is perfect and all the apps that you have added are standard and quality apps.

this is my opinion.

:)D

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no crashes here.

clean flash with supersu using mono Substratum theme.

Next time you post an issue, please remember to mention:

Steps you followed to flash. root option flashed.

using a substratum theme?

anything else that might be useful to replicate or understand the issue better.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
I already found some apps you mentioned and removed them. Email app, music, cmaudio, cclock are gone now.

If you build RR you can choose if you want root or not. I always choose without root, so there should be no root preinstalled :confused:

Yes I agree, I personally use almost every google app, so I would preinstall the biggest gapps package on my own build. Problem is it doesn't make any sense to make such a build public if so many use a completly different setup. I try to build smoething for everyone and that's not easy. Fur sure it's better to install an app you miss over playstore than removing one you don't want with a root explorer or third party app, so I will try to only preinstall thing that most people use. But like I said, in any case, I will replace all AOSP apps, so the question is only about what else is going to be preinstalled. If you look at the results, it's pretty clear that V4A and substratum will stay in the rom ;)

I'm suprised that so many people are using the pixel launcher. I thought nova is the most common, but obviously I underestimated google's power again :D
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] akubaek:
You mean clean flash rom? 1st use nigel firmware and then clean flash this rom with firmware in this thread?

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It because 20% need to wait about 2 hour.. :crying:
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Qulox:
A suggestion: Would it be possible to make Google apps user apps? So they are easier to uninstall, people hopefully would complain less (people will complains anyways [emoji14] ).

Also, it is possible to put back the previous unlocking sound? This one seems to be louder and I liked the other one. Or could someone tell me we're to get it, so I can install it myself? I replaced it in substratum but it's not the same sound.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
I think some users (those who chimed in with complaints about G-Apps etc) should take two step back and think.

The mission here is to replace the AOSP apps due to their age and I have no issues (or see any direct ones) with removing them in favor of G-Apps. I think the alternative - i.e. "This ROM is the bare bone of well eaten bones - it doesn't come with any calendar, contacts or anything, it is absolutely dysfunctional after flash so you have to go and get your apps from Play Store" is unrealistic.

I think this whole situation is like when a computer magazine replied to a letter: "When we write about the Amiga, the C64 owners complain. When we write about the C64, the Amiga owners complain. I am so fed up with all complaining!"

Perhaps time to make up some rules - There are three options for AOSP replacement:

1. BB apps

2. G-Apps

3. Sony apps

Take your pick.

Users complaining with arguments such as "I have never seen a Sony before so don't include them", "don't include G-Apps because I only use pico", "don't include BB apps because I use EX Dialer" etc should ask themselves if it is reasonable to have a ROM with an Aroma Installer 3GB heavy with 25 different calendars, contacts, clocks etc etc etc?

You have an excellent ROM, the latest build is really great and I think your decisions and feedback is really great and those "complainers" about "why is X is included when I use Y?" should just relax and take two steps back.

The next build will be really interesting. Looking forward to it.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Powerapm:
Charging is very slow in this rom。
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Thanks for your words, I totally agree :):good:
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
The whole building structure is not preconfigured for only user apps and I guess it's not that easy to change without any problems. There would be nothing in the system/app folder in the end.

I will turn down the volume for the lock and unlocking sounds in the next build. You are right, I noticed that too. ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
I think it is time to drop the bomb soon:

The Ultimate Half-and-Half Estrogen-Testosteron CrossOver Dirty-Pure Mind Stall-Overspeed ROM

This is a ROM for EVERYONE. It doesn't exclude anyone. The size is 54.7GB and it comes with Aroma Installer and a selection of apps and games for everyone. 50 dialers, 50 contact apps, 50 launchers, 50 email clients, 50 games, all Office suites on Play, every system utility you can dream of (including 20 battery monitors), 50 media players and so on. Don't forget 75 browsers and the 100 themes.

If anyone complain that it lack the "51th launcher" they use (since the other 50 isn't enough), there's good news, then: It will be added next time.

It can only be installed from the internal storage, i.e. sorry Hydrogen users.;)

This is just the beginning - the vision is for every single app on Google Play to be included in an Aroma Installer. Apps written for Froyo and Gingerbread are very important, see it as a service of historical conservation.

A decent ROM life starts with 54.7GB goodness but it is first when the ROM reach around 262GB that we can start talking about the "true beginning".
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Neo.Collin:
True words... everyone has different thoughts and opinions... I'm for anything to reduce size... i always end up pulling almost 2 GB of apps from appstore anyway for each clean flash..
[MENTION=8001680]Davehimself[/MENTION] I'll let you decide.. I think most of the people including me are hopelessly tied to google that none even tries other apps... My best guess is that poll will have G-Apps as clean winner.... I'm surprised people use Pixel Launcher... I thought the choice was always between Nova & Apex with few using the rest... I really am surprised :)

I really am looking forward to the "SuperBuild"!!
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Morrrrrteza:
Support Hydrogen please for all Feature
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
Apps not important. Only the ones *I* use are important!

If there are 500 of *I* - then 500 ROMs are needed!

Every user should take a Titanium Backup of their installation, send it to the developer who then compile uniquely crafted builds for each and everyone.

I knew egocentrism is on the rise but it seems like the last pages just drove the point home in ways I couldn't ever imagine.

It sounds like everyone is entitled to their unique ROM. I don't know who told them that but this is borderline insane.

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The egocentric ROM require 54.7GB so if you have that amount of free space on your Hydrogen, then it will work with future iterations.;)

Sorry, couldn't resist but now when everyone feels "entitled" to "only the apps I use" some size restrictions appear.;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] paarry:
Someone pls upload this ROM in some other hosting site. I am unable to download the ROM with the current link with my network and WiFi connection, too slow.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] matth76:
As far as I'm concerned, I would be ok with minimal g-apps, just access to playstore or more - I use g-apps anyway.

Everytime I clean flash the automatic backup does most of the job and I use titanium for some apps only.

I discovered viper and I'm really happy but don't need substratum.... We have custom ROM on xiaomi device so I guess everyone knows a little what he needs.

You can put Sony or BB apps there will always be someone unhappy.

Sorry for my English
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
haha :laugh::laugh::laugh: great :good::good::good: You should think about starting a career as a comedian :laugh:

....Of course everything build from source, so compiling time will be about 1 week for each build. Everyone can use the time to search for a new app that isn't included yet. And because we really want to build for EVERYONE and be UNIQUE at the same time, we will add special languages like Klingon for guys like Shelden Cooper or Sindarin und Quenya for all elves out there :victory:
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Qulox:
Thanks (my boss looked my way when I unlocked my phone at work [emoji16]). I'm getting really good battery in this build after greenify and blocking some app permissions. I'm also using Zola III cpu scripts.

I'm including CPU.config file if anybody wants to try it. Copy to system/etc/cpu and change permissions to 644. Remember to backup your current file first.

http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/597f59e2a4561/cpu.conf
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Seriously :confused:
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
You can't edit a poll or add a second one. I think I'll have to open an other thread for that poll about preinstalled AOSP, GAPPS, SONY or BLACKBERRY apps.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Qulox:
Reading comprehension, what's that?

Also, why are the MIUI apps not included?! I'm very offended. [emoji33][emoji35]

(Joke)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
...Now I get it. Couldn't fine the irony :laugh:
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] HannibalLecter:
[MENTION=8001680]Davehimself[/MENTION] I found root options available in developer settings.

But had already flashed supersu. so couldn't check whether it was working or not.

My guess is it will work bcz if root is not included those options dont say app only, adb only and app+adb options.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
If the connection is slow on your end - how could it be faster by uploading the ROM to a different source?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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The lack of Grace UX and all S-Apps including three voice assistants are the worst issues with this ROM....:rolleyes:

I am getting a Samsung unless this is fixed in the next build!
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] HannibalLecter:
I want the Bixby button on this 'ROM' :/
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
I forgot the language part. There will be around 300 different languages installed at the same time (the most important of them is some very local dialects so the ROM can appeal to people in remote areas as well).

Compilation? We kick those pesky scientists off their super computers since we need this power for the ROM compilation. Science is not important, only ROM compilation is important!

The OEMs should make devices that can store EVERY app on Google Play, i.e. with the same storage capacity that Google themselves allocate to the store.

First when we have around 100TB on the internal storage we can start talking. 128GB is just downright pathetic, not to say pitiful.

One of the most important aspects of the new ROM is its greeting:

"Gammal anordningen tillhörde inte inne om hembiträde neka!" followed by "Gammal batterierna tillhörde inte inne om hembiträde neka!"

(Old equipment doesn't belong to indoor if housekeeper denies! and Old batteries doesn't belong to indoor if housekeeper denies!)

This is direct citation from a "Swedish" (it is very "un-Swedish Swedish because the sentence make absolutely no sense in said language either) manual to a "general distant control" sold by Lidl. If anyone wonder what a "general distant control" is I can just say that every other person than the translator say "universal remote control".

There will also be an instruction saying: "If the ROM enters abnormal mode, pull out the battery and unplug the charger. Abnormal mode will be kept."

The music player will have a new button called "Lek/Paus" (another beauty of "Swedish" translation). The trap here is this: Play can be translated into "lek" (lek=play with toys) or "spela" (play music/video). If you miss this important detail, a button would be "lek" and "play the music" become "lek den musik" (i.e. playing toys with the music rather than listening to it) - which is so sick and insane sentence building that any person knowing Swedish will burst into laughter.

So we are talking about a perfect ROM here.

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Remap the fingerprint scanner to Bixby. Simulate the S8 placement by placing the finger on the camera lens to sign in...;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] HannibalLecter:
I wonder if [MENTION=4399618]nijel8[/MENTION] is reading all this. :P what would he say :P

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is a new release coming with Substratum fix and these aosp apps gone?

I can install that one and be at peace for 2 weeks till nijel releases his new build. :P
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sameermehta1977:
install any apps,gapps,blackberry apps,sony i look for lesser size and minimum power consumption thats all:)

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so i really need zolla script to flashed on this rom?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Yes, substratum is fixed, removed the aosp cclock, cm-audio and email and reduced volume of lock and unlock sounds. But I will wait for the poll results before I upload a new build and built on it :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
Of course I read it... I read everything... And I am having a difficult time keeping myself out of this b/c it's not my business but since you asked I don't like where this is going... But who cares...
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Qulox:
Not really necessary, just slightly improved battery and performance with the scripts. I posted a cpu.config a few posts before, it has the Zola script included.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
The poll is now open regarding AOSP replacement apps.

https://xdaforums.com/mi-max/development/poll-replacement-aosp-apps-rr-5-8-3-t3649724

Kindly observe that putting 50 different contacts apps in won't produce more builds than two and there won't be an Aroma Installer with all those apps either.;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] man2106:
hahahaha this is funny man

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[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] West_Borneo:
[MENTION=4399618]nijel8[/MENTION]

Sir, when I want to change setting Gboard, I found force close, , can I solved that? Thanks
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Please clear all data and cache from gboard in settings/apps
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sameermehta1977:
[MENTION=362107]e90[/MENTION] i have reflashed the rom ,removed gmail,google app,chrome ,added cs browser 60.xyz.340 , k9 mail,focus substrantum theme,and zolla script helium tweaks

no su,magisk installed just enabled root from developer options and everything working good,no crahes nothing

just wanted to share

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how do set permission to 644
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Qulox:
Any root file explorer should let you manage permissions. I'm using MiXplorer.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sameermehta1977:
[MENTION=6411087]Qulox[/MENTION] thanks

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actually i have flashed the zip file for script from perfomance and power tuning thread i dont know if i should actually copy this
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Qulox:
Not necessary, it's just easier to revert changes.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
Don't even know what gboard is... And why me!?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] man2106:
haha probably cos the thread has ur name in it lol
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
Yeah, right? On 4PDA forum almost everybody is referring it as nijel's RR!? Seeing who have forked my device tree lately I can then safely say all currently active roms here are mine, ha-ha...

Well, I have nothing to do with all the work devs are doing here.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] dungphp:
No, i use just Ril or cpu for helium from you . Build device tree too easy
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] paarkhi:
If given choice I'd like the builds as they are i.e. with AOSP apps and not include any vendor apps, Please read Nijel8's thoughts on this whole issue.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73244322&postcount=3
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] akubaek:
I still stuck with charging problem.. wipe all then flash firmware by nigel.. clean flash rom with firmware in this thread still the same
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
You are reading me too literally... :)