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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Therein lies the rub. Apps disabled via "pm uninstall -k --user 0 ..." and related varients remain on the device and cause untold headaches when trying to reenable / sideload. This is usually followed by a series of additional hacks that may or may not work and generally lead to further convolution.

Start with a fresh sheet. Only disable items you never intend to use/restore. If rooted perform a proper uninstallation.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Even a proper uninstall can cause issues. For example just uninstalling the parental apps without disabling the administrator, will cause headaches like the formentioned. From my experience, if you uninstall them, without clearing it's other settings or configs, it will disable security features one by one and eventually will just have to reflash. Amazon has a lot of apps setup in configs that don't normally exist. Finding those configs is not easy
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Spot on. This is not a generic Android ROM/device. It is an highly customized Amazon ecosystem portal that happens to look like a traditional tablet and uses some flavor of Android as a base OS. If their gizmos were hexagonal and ran Linux we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Bottom line: only disable stuff that gets in the way; leave everything else alone unless you lead a very dull life, have copious unstructured time and enjoy endless break/fix cycles.

Related: https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/remove-lockscreen-ads-fire-hd-8-2018-t3870408/post79187326
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
I haven't had TOO many issues with the device so far, just some snafus with the settings here and there (parental controls BS, so to speak). I plan to unlock the bootloader sometime this week, I'm just waiting for Monday-Wednesday since I have the Mon/Tues off and would have more time to eff around with things. Also kind of putting it off since there's been some bricks, unfortunately.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
My HD 8 remains locked by choice. I have plenty of other rooted devices that serve their respective roles. HD 8 performs reasonably well after disabling a handful of resource intensive Amazon crap via ADB. I opted not to install the Play Store in favor of side loading favorite apps and tools. FireOS v6 is tolerable, efficient and is more tweakable than v5. High value native Amazon apps remain intact and I can use sideloaded apps that are normally sensitive to root (banking, streaming, wtc) without jumping through hoops. I may eventually unlock the pup to address a few annoyances but will likely not retain durable root.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
I'm lost....
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doc2x:
Stuck on permissions

By using information from diplomatic, Rortiz2 and others I have been able get close to rooting my Fire HD8 2017. It is now asking for permission to override. Have not found the code. I do not know any code except for distant memories of DOS over 30 years ago. I appreciate those who have made it possible for me to get this far. More help is appreciated.

[*]Mounting system read-write..

mount: Permission denied

[*]Removing old files..

[*]Copying Files..

override rwxr-xr-x root:root for '/system/xbin/su'?

override rwxr-xr-x root:root for '/system/xbin/daemonsu'?

override rwxr-xr-x root:root for '/system/xbin/supolicy'?

override rw-r--r-- root:root for '/system/lib/libsupol.so'?

override rw-rw-rw- root:root for '/system/lib64/libsupol.so'?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gspitman:
OK, I have root access on my HD 8 2017 edition. But FlashFire just crashes on launch. Is there a way to change roms or anything on this? The threads for this device are all over the map. Many say it's not rootable, but it looks like I've gotten that part done. Now what do I do with it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Free version of FlashFire is time bombed. You'll need to use the 'pro' version or roll the date back to something prior to April 1st 2018 (or earlier if using a build lower than 0.73).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
You need to mount the system.

su

mount -o remount,rw /system
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gspitman:
I have SuperSU Pro, is there a pro version of FlashFire too?

I'm more than happy to pay Chainfire for his hard work over the years, hell I've been using his stuff since Windows Mobile!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doc2x:
Sweet, Titanium says ROOTED, BUT?

:D

I am running win10 to usb Fire HD8 '17. When inputting code posted by diplomatic I ran into a problem from the get-go that has me still wondering. Instead of straight "adb" as shown, (after a few days of searching guessed from multiple post info) I had to use ".\adb". Is that a win10 thing or what. Yes, I need to find a good basic site or book to help fill in stretches to my blanks. That info would also be appreciated.:confused:

Next I need to remove/uninstall/block/lock whatever is telling me that SuperSu is bad and needs uninstalled. I feel like the first day of the Indy 500 trials with me at the starting line next the turbo charged 2.2 L V6's and I'm on a 1965 Honda M50 motorcycle trying to kick start it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
That's a Windows 10 Linux/unix environment. Read up on it on Microsoft's website. It's basically an add-on in Windows 10 that installs a Linux like command line tool alongside the windows command line. To use it you will have to read about the command structure because it's a bit different.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doc2x:
Looking for most appropriate training wheels to work with windows

Do you recommend an app for L&U or in my ignorant case, any app will do and work with the windows info.

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https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/about
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Yes - as a quick check of the Play Store would have revealed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Abhaypraseeth:
Hey I want to find out where Amazon saves the wifi passwords in the system folder please help
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GreenElephants:
My device has not updated and if I click update it fails but just to be safe I prefer to keep the wifi off when I'm not using it but sometimes I forget.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jackson trim:
Cannot install google play on amazon fire HD8 7th generation

My amazon fire tab8 HD running fire OS 5.4.0.1 will not install google play and I have followed all methods before rooting and every time I go to press the install button its like it doesn't respond to my touch. is there any way to force the installation?

all I want to do is to watch youtube through the youtube app and change the launcher to run like vanilla android

Please help!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Reuben Talbott:
Try rebooting. This has happened to me before and rebooting always fixed it

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And you can not a install a different launcher Amazon blocks changing the launcher.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] obvious:
Do you have any screen overlay app running e.g. Lux? Anything with permissions to draw over screen. It will block installation for security reasons
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] philife:
Returning stock ROM to Amzon Fire HD8 (7th Generation)

Hi dev people.

I have a bricked Amazon Fire HD8 (7th Generation) the device is stuck on the Amazon boot recovery <3e> I tried all options, factory wipe, reboot, power down etc but the boot loops back to recovery. I spoke with Amazon who went through troubleshooting and said it's out of warranty (1 month out, 4 months old) and to replace I would have to pay. I already bought a spare so I'm not going down that route. Anyway I want to try and repair the device by installing the original stock OS. In linux I can only see the device when its sideloaded via ADB command. I have managed to find a .bin but it was for the 6th Gen and failed on signature. Can the source code of the 7th Gen be compiled to a .bin so I can try and update via ADB to get working. Fastboot did not recognise the device (worked fine on another HD7 7th Gen) so I can only use ADB sideload to push the update. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am a noob be gentle with my tender brain.:cyclops:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seijinzero:
Feedback on switching operating system

I bought the fire 10 2017, mainly to watch videos on. I wanted to install plain android on it to cut out the bloatware and get better playback. I know there’s not a root for it to do that yet, but I was wondering what the feedback is with flashing other roms. Is it super stable? Any caveats?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zurui:
I just got a black friday HD 8. Booted it up and checked the version... 5.3.3.0. Should I just go ahead and run the debloat tool and stay on the older version or is it worth flashing update-kindle-50.5.7.9_user_579225620.bin to try to go up to 5.4.0.0? Did 5.4.0.0 make any stability/usability fixes?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nazo:
So I'm wondering what my options are here. I just got the 7th generation HD8 for my grandmother (who refused to consider buying something used for some reason) and really kind of need to open this thing up more than Amazon would like as she needs a lot of accessibility tricks not built-in stock (she has very bad vision so I've done some stuff in the past on her old tablet to make it a lot easier to see until it eventually was broken.) There's a lot of stuff you can do with root that just can't be done without it. Unfortunately, I have no clue what it shipped with because it forced an update right off apparently (I didn't realize it would do that,) but now it's on 5.4.0.0 with an update waiting for 5.4.0.1 that so far hasn't forced itself on just yet. I'm wondering if there is any chance of a root or anything like that for this version or if that's just it for it. I did manage to get Play Store and Google Services installed with adb currently enabled, but I hear the latest OS updates block side loading and I think I ran across someone saying maybe it even messes up the Play Store itself? Can I at least disable OTA updates so it won't lock her down further later? I couldn't figure out how to do that without root access.

She got this thing expecting something minimal, but anything I can get it to do to make it easier for her to use overall would still be very helpful. Actually, I'm a bit worried she'll even have troubles with that awful launcher of theirs.

Mind if I ask you what "the debloat tool" is exactly? I've tried searching and see no such thing, yet you say it as if it's something just everyone already knows about in much the way one might say "look up at the sky" as everyone presumably knows what the sky is.

My bet is the answer to your question is that it's best not to update though.

I've been searching the forums trying to figure out what all could be done with it and along the way I've seen a post saying that their bluescreen filter setting apparently uses an overlay, so if you can't tap install try turning that off.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rrpalma:
Hello,

I have a 7th gen Fire HD 8. Have installed SSHDroid, as I always do on all my (rooted) Android devices. I know the Fire HD 8 can not be rooted. I can ssh into the tablet from a remote machine via port 2222, but I can't write into the external SD card. Is it mounted read-only? How can I change this?

Thanks for reading.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nazo:
Android doesn't handle mounting SD cards in a normal proper manner anymore. Instead they run through its permissions system. It's mounted in read-write mode, but apps must get permission to actually write. At the very minimum you'd have to grant the app specific permission to access the SD card via the app permissions settings menu, but I'm not sure how well this works with SSH apps and it may have to specifically have the permission in its manifest or whatever exactly it is that they do.

You're probably used to the fact that root is not denied access to the sdcard, so on most systems you can write to it if you use su first. Honestly though, the whole sdcard thing is a total mess. I guess Google doesn't care because they really want to pull an Apple and get rid of them entirely. Presumably from their point of view it's just to make it easier so as not to have to deal with them, but I know a lot of OEMs want it because it's a great way to get to charge users more than the actual cost of the hardware to get a larger size (for instance, it's not uncommon to see a $50+ increase going from, say, 32GB to, say, 64GB but the actual cost of the chip is more on the order of $15 more -- if even that much. Many even buy a whole new device as they get tired of running out of space on the old one.) You might try different apps too and see if you get better results. I usually use Servers Ultimate which can do a number of servers besides SSH, but I haven't tried sdcard access without root before.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derchrome:
Good morning, I have a short question:

Is it possible to install the playstore on the kid's edition?

Some tutorials from German websites mentioned that the kid's edition has a special firmware so it is not possible to install the playstore?!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rrpalma:
Thanks!! So I guess there is no way for me to write into the SD Card on the tablet from a remote workstation?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nightmare503:
I am trying to download showbox apk however the install button refuses to work. Why? How can I fix this issue? Please help!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nazo:
Disable the blue light filter. Turn off the screen then turn it back on and swipe off the lock screen and try again.

You could try checking to see if the app itself can have permission to write to the memory card. Go to app management, find it, and check its permissions. If it had one for write access to memory cards it could maybe work. Otherwise without root access I can only imagine you'd have to find something that could be granted such permission. Honestly, it may be due to technical reasons that they don't -- eg it may be impossible -- or it may be that they just simply don't think of it. One thing I've often did rather than deal with any of this is just drop things into a temporary folder on the internal storage and then use a file manager to move them over.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rrpalma:
Thanks. Yes, this works, but it is a hassle since I use Unison to sync files between my Linux laptop and my phone and tablet. I would need to sync into internal storage, and then move the data via ESFileManager to the SDCard.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nazo:
Not a whole lot I can tell you. It's a fault in the current Android implementation of SD card access that likely won't ever be fixed (if anything it will probably worsen.) The software has to find ways of dealing with it, so your only hope there is to contact the authors of the software and ask them if they can do anything to get around it. One thing strikes me: perhaps it might be possible to setup some form of script? Either an actual Bash script that is executed along the way in the process or perhaps one of those event scripter apps for Android to automatically move files from some specific internal storage folder automatically on intervals (or maybe there is an actual file storage access event it can hook?)

BTW, stay away from ES File Explorer. It used to be good, but they have sold out and turned it into something horrible that grows worse daily. (And I say this as someone who once basically asked them to make a pro version for us to send money to them for their work. I ask no longer.) For now I'm using "MK Explorer (File Manager)" as it is relatively clean, but I haven't really found something to exactly fill the gap.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gunblazer42:
My girlfriend got a Fire HD 10 for her birthday, and one of the things she's trying to do with it is get adoptable storage enabled on it. It's not enabled by default, so I tried to walk her through the steps to do it via ADB. Only in ADB, it says that the "sm" command needed isn't found. Doing my own research on it, I found that anything after the shell command means it's all operating under the device's commands. I take that to assume that the sm command isn't related to anything on the computer, but something on the device. My question is how can she resolve this issue, or is she out of luck?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kapilathi:
Try screen off and then screen on. Is install button enabled now?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tarax92:
You can root Fire HD 10 7th gen 5.6.0.0 with 'Kingo Root' because the tablet is based on Lollipop 5.1.1.

Adb must be activated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gspitman:
Actually, no. You can only buy it in app, and the app won't open anymore due to the time bomb. So save the attitude for when you actually know what you're talking about.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Chainfire

Look again. I'm afraid he's right, there is no way to purchase it without the in-app option.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
If you purchase

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.mobileodin.pro

Flash fire should work
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
I was referencing the ability to purchase PRO via the free version although I admit that wasn't clear from my terse post. Typically that involves rolling back the date on either the target device or another device linked to the same Google account, launching FlashFire and then updating to PRO via an in-app purchase. The PRO version of FlashFire will launch without a date rollback.

Took the words right out of my mouth. :)

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Nice try; clairified in subsequent post.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
You also need SuperSU pro. And not by checking the box in settings. Flash fire should also be installed as a system app in /system/app (same place as SuperSU). Only then have I been able to get it to work 95% of the time.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluedesire:
Is there a way to get HDMI Output working for Amazon Fire HD 10 7 Gen (2017)?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rohanhole:
I have Fire HD 2017 rooted with Magisk 18.1. ( with the suez root method ). Root is working all fine. Can anyone tell me how to change font ? there is systemless module in Magisk 18.1 for Product Sans Font. Can i Install it safely ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
MHL was disabled by Amazon. No one has figured it out yet, if it's even possible. However, [MENTION=8165603]DragonFire1024[/MENTION] is working on a way to use MiraCast, which apparently was introduced in the latest FireOS updates, so that's our best hope, I suppose.

"suez" is the tablet's "code name," so to speak. Just like the Nexus and Pixel phones are code-named as "shamu," "crosshatch," "walleye," and "marlin," etc.

If a module is for AOSP, it likely WON'T work on this tablet. That being said, I don't think there's any way to actually SWITCH to this font even if you could install it. However, I don't completely discount what you're attempting to do. If you DO try this, make a nandroid backup first. I recommend updating to Magisk 19 because if you DO happen to bootloop, you can try this instead of restoring a backup. It's a bit less stressful.

Here's a question for everyone else: Someone brought this up in another thread, and I thought maybe he meant "5.6.3.4" but sure enough, on Amazon's website, as well as in MY tablet's settings, it states the current software is 5.3.6.4. The last update before that was 5.6.2.0. Is this the latest, and is this a numbering bug? Are they just trolling us, or did they f*ck up and are just rolling with it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Answer to last question: probably an oversight typo. The build prop has said the 5.3 version for quite sometime now. Whoever put out the update probably just went by that.

The boot.img is aosp format. I've had no issues using any of my previous tools to unpack, edit then repack the img. The problem, which I'll find out today, may be module restrictions on the kernel. In other words, we may only be able to add and remove a certain number of modules and types based on that possible restriction. I'm hoping however, the restrictions are few or non-existent, as with the rest of Amazonland, if the kernel is like anything else, our chances are 50 50
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
Good luck! I'm really hoping for a true AOSP experience on this thing.

I asked earlier about GPS in another thread, I think, but it seems this device does not even HAVE GPS. What is your take on this? Is it WiFi-based only? I mean, there IS a "location-based services" setting on this thing, so.... yeah?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Been fooling around with the kernel for a while. Yes there is GPS, and as I suspected, deactivated. The modules are just simply not loaded. I tried to get them going, to no avail yet. It seems I'm lost. A image was created, but not a zImage and supposedly you just change the filename and a few other things. We need to learn how to use some new tools too. I've been trying to use anykernel2. They use it on the fire 7.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
So all the standard modules for GPS, compass, step counter, barometer etc are all there, just none of their modules are loaded or configured.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Most Amazon gizmos do not have hardware based GPS. Some elements may be baked into the off-the+shelf SOC but getting them to 'activate' and provide accurate coordinates seems unlikely IMO. Even if it somehow came to life the requisite antenna (often molded into the case/frame) probably isn't installed/connected.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackerghost:
i have bootloop fire hd 8 and usb debugging off, how i can fix it?

Tks for reading my bad english
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Boot into recovery and try a factory reset. If that doesn't fix sideload (reload) the version of FireOS you were using prior to the bootloop.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
So what's the status on the latest update? MiraCast?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackerghost:
factory reset dont work.

how can i sideload, i had download Firmware from #2

update:

I go recovery mode -> " apply update from ADB" ->

it not found my device because USB Debugging is off (?), plz help
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-10-2017-suez-t3913639

Always have a recovery plan before messing with your device.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackerghost:
it not found my device because USB Debugging is off (?), plz help
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Don't know yet. I haven't gotten the firmware to download
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hydeah:
Hi everyone, I am picking up Fire HD 10 (2017) on Thursday and I wanted to know if these instructions are still valid way to get Youtube working on this tablet?