yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Use the 'script' method for best results.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hydeah:
Thank you, but the script method also removes apps, right? Or am I thinking of wrong 'script'? I just want to add youtube, not remove anything (yet). Sorry if I am mixing up things. :confused:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Script method in the article you linked which has nothing to so with removing apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hydeah:
Oh I am sorry, I thought there was another script in XDA that I kept looking. My mistake, sorry, I didn't realize you were referring to the script method in the link.

Do you suggest the script method because it installs google play store so we can install other apps directly from it? Wouldn't the first method already update those from google play anyway?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
First method is easier but less reliable. You can try both to see what works best.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiendcameron:
Can anyone tell me if (even though it's listed as 256 gb and lower) the 10 can take a 400 gig microsd card? My 8 does it like a champ and don't see why the 10 wouldn't as well.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midnightzak:
Just picked up an hd10, side loaded playstore, and installed Nova Launcher (w/LauncherHijacker). However my soft keys for Back, Home, and Recent are gone. Typically they will swipe up but nothing happens when i try that. I

Considering root and rom at some point, which would probably fix it, but not going down that road just yet...

Thanks for the help!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midnightzak:
Not sure what i did, but it works again... Now I'm trying and failing to place widgets. Help?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
HijackLauncher seems a bit buggy at first when installed on the latest firmware. I had the same issue. I uninstalled it, reinstalled it, and rebooted. Seems to have fixed it.

You're using Nova Launcher, right? What happens when you tap + hold on the home screen, then drag a widget to the desktop? Does it open the Settings? Because that's what happens to me, too.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
You need to enable app widgets for the launcher https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/root-required-widgets-preferred-launcher-t3637814
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midnightzak:
Yep, there is a script in ADB that fixes it splendidly! Screens in attachments

https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/root-required-widgets-preferred-launcher-t3637813
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fgenari:
Hi all,

Recently bought a kindlefire hd8 and cant find where I see the battery usage looks like Android.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
You'll have to root if possible and use an Xposed module. The power profile inside the framework has been deleted.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
As you are discovering Amazon has heavily modified the stock Android UI. A 3rd party tool like BBS or GSAM is the best alternative if you prefer to to root and/or unlock (which is no panecia a carries a boatload of implications both positive and negative). Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
Two things I've noticed with this device that annoy me greatly:

One, the low power notification keeps coming back no matter how many times I swipe it away. It keeps returning until I plug it in.

Two, and this is a more serious matter, the screen turns on randomly for no reason, and since there's no screen timeout option anywhere on this thing, it stays on for several minutes, which drains the battery and could possibly be causing burn-in. It does this even with a lock screen enabled.

How do I fix these, especially the latter?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
What version fireOS are you on? I haven't used a standard fireOS settings APK in ages but if I recall, they restrict the screen time out and block it because of being "a child hazard". You'd have to install that apk. It doesn't support anything above 5.6.2.0 yet. to be honest, on anything later, Amazon patched a lot if the good ones so I'm not likely to be able to support anything above 5.6.2.0 unless I am able to track down how they blocked the features.

The notification I might be able to take care of. I do recall a configuration that lowers the the % value so it appears at whatever percentage you want it to. I have to search for that setting again.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaxPowerOne:
Devs I need a bit of help to restore my soft bricked fire hd8 7th, I can enter recovery so I think I'm good. I have to sideload the .bin but I don't get how to set up ADB and drivers in order to do that, I found guides but some of them do need setup string in windows advanced options etc.. but I have never used them with adb so I'm very confused.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Has nothing to do with the "device"; timeouts are dictated by ROM.

Stock FireOS v6 has a user adjustable sleep timeout. On the same ROM I have never experienced a persistent or recurring low battery notification.

---------- Post added at 03:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:35 AM ----------

Strike one (BS meter just pegged).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
I know it's not the hardware, it's this iteration of FireOS. I really wish we could replace it.

The latest, 5.6.4.0 aka 5.3.6.8. I'm tempted to try some Magisk modules for this sorry of thing. Or maybe Xposed, if it comes to that.

BTW... The Amazon rep confirmed that they have indeed messed up on the version numbering. They'll be passing this on to the appropriate department.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Call bs all you want. do you own a fire 10? I can list the restrictions in the settings APK that block certain items if you like.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Wasn't questioning "restriction" but rather interpretation of why it exists. Laughable at best.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Indeed, however most of the restrictions are listed as such.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Lol - someone at Amazon is having a good laugh. Fortunately, no animals were harmed in the execution if that lighthearted rouse. Glad their coders can have some fun.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DelphinusMinor:
I recently bought the Canadian Fire 10 HD. Oddly hands free Alexa works. I have one email associated with both my Canadian and American accounts. That could be the reason.

Anyway, I am asking how many people here have rooted the Canadian version? Is there more risk involved with this than the US version? I searched this thread and couldn't find any info about this question.

Fire OS version; 5.6.4.0
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
Someone attempted to perma-root theirs on 5.6.4.0 and found that they had to brick/downgrade first. It's possible with this tool.

From [MENTION=4709205]garnet&gold[/MENTION]:

*Question for everyone else:

Has anyone successfully updated Magisk to 19.1 stable? Mine just bootlooped until I rebooted into recovery and reflashed 19.0 beta.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DelphinusMinor:
Damn. I'm gonna hold off for now me thinks.

---------- Post added at 02:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:01 AM ----------
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
If you thought rooting this thing was going to be easy or maintenance free think again. Enthusiasts and root junkies tolerate the pain because the end game is the only game worth playing in their world. Time and stability are irrelevant. Enjoy your device for what it is before hauling out the box cutter. Ultimately you may find it is a very usable gizmo with a few modest tweaks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DelphinusMinor:
Oh yea, I root and jailbreak everything I own within hours. I may get used to this as is for now and then root it. I understand the risks and whatnot, but it's a shared tablet. The only shared device I own so don't want to mess it up. If it were just me using it than that's a whole other paint job.

If difficulty was my gauge I would never have rooted the Note 4 SM-N910V. That was the hardest device to date to root for me personally. Constant backtracking and rolling back.

---------- Post added at 08:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:27 AM ----------

Also, I assume it's the same root method as the US Fire HD 10?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
Should be. I don't see why there would be any differences.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garnet&gold:
I had the same bootloop installing thru magisk, but just downloading the zip and independently flashing it in recovery worked fine.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackDN06:
Lock Screen Disabled, but no internet access

I've successfully rooted my Fire HD10 (2017) on OS 5.6.4.0 and everything seems to be working just fine. I have been able to remove the lock screen and boot directly into Nova Launcher, but when I attempt to update apps through the Play Store I just keep getting the message "Download Pending" and then the downloading just seems to freeze at that point. If I re-enable the lock screen then the apps update normally. Is there anyway workaround for disabling the lock screen and allowing the app updates through the Play Store?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
If I knew my settings apk worked on that version, I would say install that and you can set the security option on lock screen to none, or any other option like pattern. https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/root-firetabletsettings-apk-rewritten-t3787636

May I ask how you disabled it? To allow app updates, uninstall the Amazon app store and apps will update if your settings in the play store allow them.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackDN06:
I followed the instructions from this site and it worked. https://www.computerhilfen.de/english/fire-tablet-disable-the-lock-screen-no-root-required.html

I tried it again without the Amazon app store and still got the same results.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] massimo727:
What are the steps after I have followed this thread (https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-10-2017-suez-t3913639) to unlock and installed TWRP?

How do I make the tablet more AOSP?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
You can't.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
How about your home button? Any other weirdness? Try switching device_provisioned back to 1. That may fix it. You will likely have to reboot. You can't have that setting put to 0 and not set off a cascade of events. That setting essentially sets you back in history in terms of the setup wizard, on fireos anyways and notifies the system that you haven't finished it. The result is different across devices. But on these usually no home button functionality, apps crash when you swipe and security gets weird and parental controls freak out. I bet if you change that back to 1, you can update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackDN06:
I've tried doing all of that, but to no avail. I don't want to tempt fate too much and brick my device. I guess I'll just have to live with the lock screen enabled for the time being.

Thanks for all of your suggestions.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryevick:
Well I had my Fire HD 10 7th Gen running Nova Launcher just fine and then the auto update to Fire OS 5.6.4.0 screwed it up. I don't have the option to select a default launcher anymore. Please help, thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
I would just go for a quick temporary root and disable fire launcher and OTA. And you don't even need superuser to do it.

https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/experimental-software-root-hd-8-hd-10-t3904595

You're just going to have to do it all through a shell. Load mtk-su and just do this:

su
pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Not only can you fix your immediate problem with this excellent suggestion, most other debloating and stabilization tasks can be performed in a similar manner without going through the time consuming and generally frustrating three ring circus associated with rooting/unlocking.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackDN06:
Lock Screen Disabled, but no internet access

Thanks to Thibor69, I've finally solved the problem of disabling the Fire HD10 (2017) lock screen and still being able to update apps via Google Play Store.

Discovered this forum site this morning: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=79560826&postcount=3

Tried it and everything seems to be working as it should. I had no problems updating apps via Google Play Store.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Therok1953:
Hey guys

I've got a stock Fire HD 8 7th Gen which I haven't updated since I got it; is there any value in keeping it unupdated, or (at the moment) can I install the latest OTA update and still be able to disable bloat (as per https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/a-t3820744 ) and eventually root (as per https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/fire-hd8-2017-amonet-debrick-root-t3897841 )?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFSP G35:
^ do the mtk-su root shell. You can do that and install supersu (maybe Magisk now?) without having to open the case at all. Much easier.

Also, whether or not you permanently root, you can use the root shell to pm disable (rather than hide) apps you don't want, and install Nova or some other launcher as a system app much easier with root or root shell, rather than trying to do all that first.

As far as the latest update still being rootable, I'm not completely sure
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Therok1953:
[MENTION=4519203]NFSP G35[/MENTION]

Thanks for the swift response, much appreciated. And apologies for the noob questions.

If I do install the latest update and I find that it has issues with the rooting process, is there any way to downgrade to a version where it's known to be successful? Don't mind wiping the device and losing data.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFSP G35:
Historically, downgrades can be risky and result in a "brick" but worst case it should still be recoverable via the method you posted before (opening the case and shorting some pins)

I have two 7th gen HD8s myself, and did the pin shorting method first, and mtk-su on the other one when it came out a little later.

The software method is obviously much easier, and if it were me, I would consider it worth the risk knowing I had a fall back method (actually two fallback methods, there's an older hardware root that requires soldering in an adapter in place but provides direct read write access to the entire flash memory... Basically 'unbrickable' as long as you don't physically break the hardware)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
At least for now it appears we can downgrade on the HD 10. I'm on 5.6.1.0 with a ramdisk from 5.6.3.0 and kernel from 5.6.1.0.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryevick:
OK... I finally have a little time to try this. I downloaded and extracted mtk-su_r11.zip in side my download folder. I then installed Termux. What now? I really need simple step by step instructions.

I would rather make this a temporary root to fix the issues so I don't have to worry about apps I have installed that won't work on a rooted device misbehaving.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Place the file in /data/local/tmp and CD to that directory. Run the command

./mtk-su -v

then you have temp root until reboot. You may have to run the command a few times before it works.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryevick:
Yeah... That's not making any sense to me at all (noob). I am wanting to use the non pc method in post 3
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
The same still applies. You'll probably want to use terminal emulator.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryevick:
Termux:

$ cp /storage/sdcard1/mtk-su_r11/arm64/mtk-su ./

$ chmod 700 mtk-su

$ ./mtk-su

CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE DEPENDENCIES: "/data/data/com.termux/files/usr/lib/libtermux-exec.so" is 32-bit instead of 64-bit

$ ./mtk-su -v

CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE DEPENDENCIES: "/data/data/com.termux/files/usr/lib/libtermux-exec.so" is 32-bit instead of 64-bit

$ /storage/sdcard1/mtk-su_r11/arm/mtk-su

bash: /storage/sdcard1/mtk-su_r11/arm/mtk-su: Permission denied

$

I see no way to grant permission to Termux for anything, it just shows the permissions it has when you view it in settings.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryevick:
So much for Noob friendly.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
I don't really use termux. Its not easy to use especially for this and can be confusing because it creates its own environment which is why i suggested the basic terminal emulator.

This thread also doesn't appear at the top of replies in the app all the time so not everyone who knows more will see your request.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Re: Noob Friendly

That's a standard thread label (wish it weren't) that is entirely dependent on the community providing responses. In your case follow the suggestions provided or abandon the effort. The task being attempted is definitely not geared to newbies. Nor is it excessively challenging if instructions are carefully followed. Keep in mind XDA is a developers forum, not the Apple Store. Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFSP G35:
??? I want to this on a tee-shirt! ???
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryevick:
Hmmm, doesn't look standard to me and if it was you'd think if it was a mistake, that a developer could fix it. You seem up to the task. Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Nice. New guy on the block with an attitude.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Axecaster:
Hope to avoid a factory reset. Rooted HD 10 on 5.6.0.0. Boots now result in an unresponsive home screen. Orientation is stuck vertical instead of the locked horizontal setting. Drop down menus, app icons and home screen scrolling are all unresponsive. Only the volume and power buttons work. The menu/settings those buttons bring up do respond to touches. Lets me restart, enter fastboot, or the stock recovery. Tried charging with different cables and blocks, no luck. Anyone else run into these symptoms?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
Well, first off... what did you do last that caused this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Sounds like a root gone very bad. did you by chance root with kingoroot or did you try flashing with magisk?

Edit: did you remember to to disable or delete the OTA application?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Axecaster:
The OTA application is disabled. I applied the offline root method more than a year ago. Oddly, many months have passed without any actual root operations to the device (SuperSu permissions blocked vs full access). The home screen / launcher maybe needed its cache cleared, but that does not seem reachable at this stage. Cleared cache within the stock recovery, but still no luck.

Can an update to the same stock system version be manually applied to overwrite the issues?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
At this point if you can get to recovery your best two options are to flash stock firmware, then factory reset or downgrade brick and unlock, flash twrp and then stock. Sounds like a bad root. Depending on how you disabled ota, a ota update gone bad can't be ruled out.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Axecaster:
OTA was disabled, as well as build number changed in the build prop (Fire TV style). What is the proper method to flash stock firmware? I think I'd eventually prefer the unlocked bootloader and TWRP route, but still wrapping my head around the guides.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CGriffiths86:
I got my wife a fire tablet and want to have her Amazon account be the main account on the tablet, but have my account (student prime account) be logged into Prime Video. Is there anyway to do this? I've tried cloning the app but the Amazon version of the app doesn't let you log out and swap accounts like the regular Android version.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
Add your account to hers as a family account.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CGriffiths86:
I'm not sure if that will work. That's sort of our whole issue. With my account being a Student prime account you can't share prime services like a normal account. We are a "household" so I can see her books and such, but she can't use prime shipping or video unless using my account.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Use stock Amazon recovery to use adb sideload. If you don't know your last fireOS version you can sideload the latest version for your tablet.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Axecaster:
I'm fairly sure I froze the Fire OS version to 5.6.0.0. If incorrect (or a new OTA update somehow got by) do I get a brick?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
No, nothing that extreme. If you're temp-rooted, you'll lose root. If you are unlocked, you'll just need to reflash Magisk to regain root. Other than that, an update will restore apps that you've removed or frozen (some stay frozen, though).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Axecaster:
Stock firmware flashed to 5.6.0.0. Then factory reset. Kept tablet offline so far. Everything seems out-of-the-box normal. Once the bootloader is unlocked, can the pre-rooted firmware versions be upgraded and downgraded through TWRP?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Yes. They should not require any further modifications on your end.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paul0909:
My fire hd 10 running 5.6.4.0 is stuck in a bootloop stopping at the amazon screen, i can't boot to recovery or get fastboot access to do a factory reset or port a replacement fire os.

this happened after i rooted with kingo and hen removed it and put super su in its place, obviously i did something wrong, but i have no idea what, any help would be appreciated.

this is a copy of a post i put i the general help section as i didn't know which to use, please delete the appropriate post if it is against the rules to dual post.

Thanks

Rando
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
[MENTION=8165603]DragonFire1024[/MENTION] had an issue where the device wouldn't even boot. He did get it working again. Maybe his expertise in this matter would be what you need. However, he's currently working on a Nougat ROM for the HD 10, and might be getting some much-needed sleep.

But in the mean time, have you tried (or can you try) this? Hold down the power button for about 40 seconds, until the tablet powers off. Then hold the buttons to boot into recovery. Vol - (down) and Power, I believe. Let us know if that works.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
I'll have to post what I did later on