yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mandarthedon19@gmail.com:
Can I just dirty flash RR-N-v5.8.3-20170802-helium.zip over current RR-N-v5.8.3-20170801-helium.zip ??? Or again clean wipe ....
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] liguangming1981:
For me it's pretty simple - Google Services are blocked in China so having any Google apps installed that rely on Google Play Services results in pretty serious battery drain (either because Google Play Services keep calling home because they can't connect or because my VPN has to be switched on top allow them to work). So for me personally, using non Google apps is preferable.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] ptr21:
Same here. Antutu score 60 000 with hydrogen/01.08 rom.

Am I little too worried or is there something really wrong?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sameermehta1977:
[MENTION=222328]dave[/MENTION] i did an update yesterday night & now again its showing me a new update,i have checked the change log of both installed and available they are same.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Powerapm:
Where in China?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
After the first update I was asked to get back the snapdragon camera and because this is a very special app you can't just replace or get anywhere else I did a reupload with the snapdragon cam. So everyone who doesn't like the google cam can update the build, and while I was doing the upload, I added the latest fixes I just did a few minutes ago. (fixed nova launcher update bug and added latest beta version + added a camera fix from RR team)

I'm always working on my build and try to share everything with you, so feel free to update when ever you want. There is no mandatory for updates so just look at the changelogs in OTA app and decide yourself what you need and what you don't need. An other project of mine for the future is to include incremental/delta updates. An updatepackage will then have about 10-30MB because it only includes the changes I made. I just didn't figure out yet how to do it :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
Low AnTuTu scores are an indication of core configuration issues. I just did a test and got around 76K (the device not newly booted).

Then I want to send my regards to all complainers who went on WhatsApp moaning and groaning about this ROM and also how dumb I am.... Thanks for the fun ride!

Especially the conspiracy theory and all this "let the user choose!"

OK: The complainers decided that AOSP apps are the way to go. But why are their voices worth more than the rest of the crowd who voted for G-Apps?

And I can assure all of you complainers this: There's no conspiracy here or a movement working for complete AOSP app extermination. And there's no communication whatsoever with any team on any ROM about such a thing.

So if you need your daily AOSP app fix - there are plenty of ROMs offering them and again, no one is communicating behind the scenes about eradicating those apps from them.

I also noticed some Kodi ignorance in the WhatsApp group, why not install it rather than live in the ignorant "I am not using it so why discuss it?" crowd...
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
It's located in system/priv-app ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
I get over 86000 with my hydrogen 3/32 with stock settings. Unfortunately this is hard to check for me, because I don't own that device. It would be nice if any other 4/128 user could check it.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] PassieWater:
Hi guys. An off topic question but because you are so helpfull i want to ask:

What is the difference between wipe data and format data and when do you use format? Does it take our device back to really "fresh' without any previous data on it or what does it do? And when to use format data.

Much appreciated for answers.

Keep up the great work
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] prometr:
Hello. Thanks for great rom.

I have same problem for V4A. Screenshot is added. Thanks.

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[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Did I miss something ? Honestly everybody who's hiding behind a screen and making pupclic fun of other people is a coward, mediocre and should be ashamed.

Think what you want but respect the opinion of others. I'm really glad that my replacement of AOSP apps filtered some of these people out. ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Seriously ? Sir, how about enabling it ? Just push the master power button :D
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] prometr:
Omg.Sorry. [emoji87]

Mi Max cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] dungphp:
Test this kernel sir: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=961840155545583294

Dont care the name
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
It is strange, isn't it?:fingers-crossed:;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Yes, excellent ROM + the best base you can get for the MiMax, nijel8's base!! It's all about that. Putting best things together and giving reliable support for updates. :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] myxcon:
Any camera crashes?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
Fully normal camera operation on my Helium. Did a video recording and everything works (no 30 seconds issue).

Note that I am on Harfix 2.1 so I can't speak for the operation on the stock kernel.

So far so good, everything is simply running great with high performance. Some people complained about the CPU settings (performance governor) but I just checked with Kernel Adiutor and I have Interactive and everything setup properly.

The ROM simply runs as good as a ROM can ever run.

The only "thing" I see is Google Play Services FC on bootup but that is because of my aggressive use of Disable Service (I have disabled around 121 services so it typically become a bit "upset" since it loads, Disable Service do its thing and I got the FC). This has nothing to do with the ROM or G-Apps, just my configuration.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
Just some tips since this ROM doesn't have my custom settings needed for user configuration. Add these lines in /system/build.prop:

To activate core_ctl - persist.sys.cpu.core_ctl=1

To activate zRAM - persist.sys.config.zram=1

Reboot...

Or run in terminal setprop <prop> <prop_value>

The prop will be persisted in /data/property and loaded at boot.

To set SELinux permisive - run in terminal

setprop persist.sys.selinux.enforcing 0

None of those are activated by default!

Tune cpu and zRAM in /system/etc/cpu/cpu.conf as you like.

[MENTION=8001680]Davehimself[/MENTION] you might want to link or copy this to first post as additional features
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Why arent these settings activated by default ? If there is no disadvantage I would just add it in the build.prop as default for next build :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
Because that's the Lineage default and it should be user choice what to run. Lineage(RR) actually removed core_ctl altogether, SELinux permisive is security matter so user should set it permissive explicitly... zRAM... not everybody would need it.

But it's your project so defaults are up to you.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Okay got it. Same thing with root. Some people have there very specific configuration and maybe don't need or want those configs, so yes, I think letting the user choose himself is the best option :) I'll put it as an option in the main post, thanks for that ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
Actually one thing... persist.sys.selinux.enforcing=0 should be set from terminal, it will not work from build.prop because /data/property/persist.sys.selinux.enforcing is loaded last and will overwrite build.prop value:

setprop persist.sys.selinux.enforcing 0

The other two should work...
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] paarkhi:
[MENTION=8001680]Davehimself[/MENTION], there was a setting for selinux mode in sawdoctor's RR, can you please include them in next update, thanks
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] parnz:
Hi all, Can I relock bootloader after flashing this ROM?

Device: Xiaomi MI MAX 64GB (HELIUM)

Bootloader: Unlocked

Recovery: twrp-3.1.1-0-helium

ROM: Currently in decision.

**Used to be an android user long long time ago sine Samsung Galaxy S1 Captivate then switch to iOS and now come back w/ MI MAX :) **

Thanks.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Qulox:
It is there, in the same place.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] paarkhi:
Thanks for confirming, I've not yet flashed this rom but with all the conversation between nijel and dave about the selinux in build.prop, I thought it's not in the usual place.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mandarthedon19@gmail.com:
I loved this ROM very much. Getting good battery backup.

Just one glitch. When I click OTA update I see messages like "can't find update". Any help ??? Using latest 20072017 build. Is this due to that I already have latest build ??
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] flor90:
[MENTION=4399618]nijel8[/MENTION] I flashed one of your modem zips and I now have EDGE connection on my phone, which I never had. Wondering if you can do the same to unlock the 800 MHz LTE band, which is locked by default. Thanks in advance!
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] rizky123:
After disable many service in google play service,google play service has stopped message pop up every few minute,is there anyway to disable the message ?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] ajsmsg78:
I flashed the new Helium build on my broken Mi Max and I can't find any bugs yet. I ordered some parts from AliExpress and once I get them I'll have another Mi Max to sell. I just wanted to test this before I sold it and so far everything works as it should. I wish I had RR on my S8+.

Anyone in certain major cities who is using the Mi Max on T-Mobile, T-Mobile did some band changes and you'll no longer get HSPA+ in certain areas, you'll only get Edge. That's pretty much the reason why I had to sell mine. This may or may not be the reason why you're stuck on Edge (check your Mobile Network settings)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Haha, now that's funny. I guess you are right. I tatally overlooked that option, so sorry guys for the confusing :laugh: You can change the SELinux mode direct from config settings, no need to use the terminal :o
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
That's no glitch, your build date is from yesterday, so yes, you are already using the latest build. if you are not sure, just tap on "old roms". you will get directed to all availalbe roms that I've released so far :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
No problem, I would suggest to google for V4A setup, because there are a tone of settings you have. :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
deleting is wiping, re-writing is formatting. If your data is encrypted, for exemple if you are on the official MIUI roms and want to install a custom rom, you need to format it in order to get rid of the encryption. If you don't have encrypted data a wipe is enough :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] PassieWater:
So no harm done if i format instead of wipe? Why is it an option then anyway
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
No, in both cases you get a fresh partition, BUT formattiing will reset your filesystem. I would suggest to change data and cache partition to f2fs. If you do a format, it will set it back to ext4, so you must remember to change the filesystem back to f2fs if you do a format ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] PassieWater:
Thanks for answering this off topic Q.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Neo.Collin:
[MENTION=8001680]Davehimself[/MENTION] [MENTION=1547420]E90 Commie[/MENTION] I'm totally with moving forward... However, This looks like a fair point and people who are little paranoid about Big G... Can we try a middle path to help out rest? A one time effort to have a flashable zip that can remove the Google integration and may be push AOSP apps... Since they are never updated, there is no need to rebuild ever again... I'm guessing people who wants sony stuff can flash sony stuff and blackberry stuff can install those..

All those who are cribbing about conspiracy and other s*** - Please grow up... developers here have been more than willing to understand and help out for FREE, all you have to do is state your concern and may be suggest a solution.. Think about for a second... Are you helping anyone by being negative when developer is spending HIS PERSONAL time to keep the build up-to date...
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Please note, although I don't use AOSP apps myself, everyone should give credits to AOSP devs great work: AOSP apps are getting updated almost !!every day!!. They might feel and look old, but People all over the world are working on AOSP apps :)

The problem is, there is no AOSP flashable zip, but if somebody wants to get rid of every single google app on his device, he could try something like this: https://gist.github.com/olivier-m/6200184

and BTW, thx for your words ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] PassieWater:
Sorry.... Just to be sure: change data and cache to f2fs.... Not system or other? I am on global rom now and really want to flash your rom.... Bit nervous here... Sorry
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
My Helium got 76K+ and it wasn't even newly rebooted. So no Helium problem per se, rather something with the particular kernel setup.

Kernel Adiutor can create some havoc on the core setup sometimes so low AnTuTu could be a sign that only the small cores are active with the big ones disabled (scores in the range of 60K is typical for such a scenario).
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Sure, just ask, this is one reason why we are here :D

So far, there is no support for f2fs on system partition. It would automatically change back to ext4 in the flash procedure, so just change data and cache to f2fs.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Italiandoitbetter:
Here You are sir
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Zarrar Palekar:
[MENTION=8001680]Davehimself[/MENTION], still no custom gallery app and I am still facing that alarm time issue. Appreciate your rate at which builds go live. But please take into consideration these for the next update.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] liguangming1981:
I live in Shanghai.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Italiandoitbetter:
Hi Sir,

please same request, Exchange for me is very importante, next update please include in...

Important, Update 0802, maybe has the script of 0801, installed but, info remain 0801 and request again Ota download.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
I'm not sure if I got you right, but If you are talking about the exchange client for email, it's included in my build. Here you can see the actual setup of my rom:

GAPPS_FORCE_MMS_OVERRIDES := true

GAPPS_FORCE_DIALER_OVERRIDES := true

PRODUCT_PACKAGES += \

GoogleCalendarSyncAdapter \

CalendarGooglePrebuilt \

LatinImeGoogle \

PrebuiltDeskClockGoogle \

CalculatorGoogle \

GoogleContactsSyncAdapter \

GoogleContacts \

PrebuiltExchange3Google \

PrebuiltGmail \

Photos \

CalculatorGoogle

(Chrome has been sort out now and replaced with CS CAF Browser due to your votes. Will come in next build)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sameermehta1977:
[MENTION=514045]thanks[/MENTION] dave for the efforts,CS browser is a very good.

and i have restored radio back ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Please take a look at the playstore. You will find tons of gallery apps when searching for "gallery". Choose whatever you like if you don't like the google gallery :)

And about that alarm time issue, please post a screenshot, then I will take a look at it.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Glad you found a solution :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Italiandoitbetter:
I don't have a separate icon email, but only Gmail with Exchange inside.

Please see the script of update 0802...

Your rom is amazing, I'm a music passionate and Viper4fx working should be a great gift for me. THX
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Okay you mean the old AOSP email app. This one has been replaced with GMAIL. But you can get every other email app you need over the playstore. What is your email provider ? if you are using outlook exchange I really suggest to use the outlook email app. It's the best for outlook accounts ;)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.outlook&hl=de
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Italiandoitbetter:
Hi, did you see my screenshot about Viper4fx? Any ideas?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
I just mistaken you, because there was another one with the exact same problem.

This seems to be harder than I thought :D !!!!...TURN IT ON (MASTER POWER)!!!! :laugh:

...I guess I will add this in the install instruction now
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Mhgsd:
Suggest for app replace

Hi

I have two suggest for app replace

Use ES File Explorer for file manager

And use Quickpick for gallery

Very of people say that apps is best !

Like this comment if you are agree :o
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] datadrop:
Is this rom mods or RR original ?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Feel free to open polls and let the users decide what they like. I will include it :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
It is modified!
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mandarthedon19@gmail.com:
Dave you have proved that you are a cool man:cool::cool:
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
OK, ES File Explorer WAS an excellent app back in the days but not anymore:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/11/28/after-adding-a-bunch-of-bloat-to-the-free-app-es-file-explorers-3-pro-version-will-take-some-of-it-it-away/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/05/10/es-file-explorer-updated-with-super-shady-speed-charging-adware/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/05/25/es-file-explorer-update-removes-the-adware-charging-screen/

QuickPic?

The app itself is good but bought by Cheetah Mobile. The classic 4.5.2 version is OK but has some FCs on Nougat. So there are issues with that one.

If you were attempting some irony I say this: CleanMaster. THAT one is very important...;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Powerapm:
me too
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] harshabm:
Dave awesome rom thank you very much.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] HannibalLecter:
clearly this is your first post and you're new to all this.

You're living in 2011/12.

This is 2017.

Both of those apps are ADWARE/SPYWARE.

Plus the day any playstore app other than AOSP or GOOGLE is Pre-installed (with the exception of NOVA), It will be a warning to those with brains to STOP using the ROM.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
go to settings/configuration/recents and tap on the first tab. there you'll find the option for the lock icon to lock recent apps ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sampei:
Then plz back to MIUI8 China version or you gonna find whatever china developer version rom in Chinese forum.....that's why Xiaomi have got global n china ver ROM :D
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Mhgsd:
Where is come update stable?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
All my releases are stable builds. Do you mean official ? There is no more official RR release for mi max. The official maintainer has disappeared.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Powerapm:
Chairman, ROM 30/7/17, what do you use G-apps
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
Look at the poll.... The answer is right there.

---------- Post added at 11:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:07 AM ----------

Not only disappeared but he took the whole AFH page with him as he left. So the only "official" builds available now would be something a user did upload on their own or the ajmsg78 ones for Helium (which aren't "official" but ports of the original "official" Hydrogen ones).

So the situation is that we have this build, which is stable and a continuation of the original work and also frequently updated.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] jlgmax:
Struggling with the Google app on this latest ROM! It said 'Google is not your default assist app' when I tried to configure OK Google detection. So i uninstalled and reinstalled and also manually reset it as the default assist app. This allowed me to 'train' the voice command, but then nothing happens when I say 'OK Google' !! Is anyone else having this problem ? (Hydrogen). It recognises the commands if I manually press the microphone icon, but this was never necessary on my previous RR ROM.

Update - flashed Stock Gapps and all is fine. Would be interested to know if I could have just installed something less drastic to fix it though !
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
Poll!? 9 votes from thousands of downloads!? You are funny...

What a joke... :laugh:
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
The poll is open and it doesn't really matter how many voters there are at this time. The graph says what it is saying.

If the AOSP apps are that much in demand, just vote for them.

The question still remains, though:

What benefits are those AOSP apps providing?

It seems like the discussion on this particular subject still didn't touch this key issue.

The current poll results are that G-Apps are the leaders.

Perhaps time to expand the polls to the more general areas of XDA to simply see whether those AOSP apps are that much in demand generally speaking. I must admit that I can't even remember when the request "please remove G-Apps and put AOSP apps in" were posted in other ROM threads (i.e. about different ROMs of different types but with G-Apps installed).

Edit: The poll in this very thread is very telling. G-Apps are staying just by looking at the graphs.

There are 8 users that voted for AOSP apps. Way more users voted for the different alternatives involving G-Apps.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
Oooh, that's simple - user choice.

G apps - you can get them from anywhere on the Internet

AOSP apps - nowhere exept original build rom.

Not to mention that all LineageOS/RR apps are using some very specific calls to their respective frmaworks to work as part of the build. Those are not your regular Android SDK calls. Also some of their functionality is strongly dependent on the platform signature, privileged system state etc. etc. So once not build with the rom they are gone for good.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Zarrar Palekar:
This is what I am talking about. Alarm time randomly changes timing every hour. FYI I have only two alarms set for everyday. One at 5 am and another at 7 am.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] memooffon:
delete