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[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
Here are the issues with Entitlement Syndrome:

Put in G-Apps = People complain

Put in pico G-Apps = People complain

Put in Google Maps = People complain

Put in AOSP apps = People complain

Put in Google Camera = People complain

Remove G-Apps = People complain

Remove AOSP apps = People complain

Put in HERE Maps = People complain

Add features = People complain

Remove features = People complain

You see a common denominator here?;)

I have dealt with this behavior for many years and you just can't win this battle.

The only thing that might (MIGHT!) stop complaints are personalized ROMs. I.e. 500 different ROMs for 500 users.

Don't forget the "If I don't get it my way I will flash another ROM!" OK and you think this "threat" will cause a personalized ROM to appear?

Using this as an argument or "threat" always make me go LOL. It is like Entitled customers that "threaten" with the "If you don't get me freebies I will go to [another company]" nonsense. Just go right ahead because you won't get a free air conditioner from them either.

Dear Mr/Mrs Entitled: Your "threat" about "going to someone else" is just like the Swedish saying "putting water on a goose".

It doesn't make it sound very "adult" - rather like the kid (five years old) that doesn't get candy and decide to scream (or the older "kids" since their brains are infantile that lie down, screaming in front of the check-in counter at the airport because they arrived at 10:40 for the 10:50 flight and now want the airline to HOLD IT FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT! Yes, everyone get that you are more important than the other 200 passengers that came on time and are already seated.

One of the best statements ever are: "I have been a LOYAL customer of yours for the last XX years but recently switched to AT&T. Would you like to switch my contacts to my new AT&T phone for free?"

OK, it seems like your "loyalty" just ended and you still expect freebies.... ROTFL

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OK, new ROM inbound soon I guess?

If so I will just go and charge my device since it means reflash when it is up.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sampei:
[MENTION=8001680]Davehimself[/MENTION] but still don't have external storage option and slo-mo....also snap interface is bit old skool but how? Took "Cleaner Looks" or "functional advantage" what say you?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
:laugh: To express it politically: ...In such cases, I'll always refer to the majority which is clearly above this thread, so if somebody is against democracy, this is the wrong place. We all know what happens with a dictatorship, specially my country :eek:

I just noticed we are talking about two differnt things. You are talking about an internetbrowser and I'm talking about a filebrowser :laugh: ...regarding the internetbrowser, that's a differnt thing. Chrome is really the most used browser out there, so it would be a strange acception based on the current concept to replace it now. Googlecam is a differernt thing, cause it's made for the google cameras and the snapdragon cam is made for our devices, so I would say I only replace the snapdragon cam now or do you noticed anything else so far I should change ?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
I will reupload the same rom just with snapdragon cam ;) takes about 3-4 hours
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
I noticed the file browser discussion and what I can say is that Documents Provider Storage works perfectly well. If you are to include another file manager, look into MiXplorer (I think the older CM File browser is deprecated).

For web browser I think CS Browser is the best option instead of Chrome due to it being a recent CAF build 60.x with higher performance.

XDA has one CAF browser with an auto-updater app as well.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
No all fine, I just thought you are talking about a file browser, because you don't like the extra documents provider storage thing, so it was a misunderstanding. :o

...Yes I got your point, but we made a poll about the gapps, which of course includes chrome and now suddenly switch to something else looks pretty untrustworthy don't you think ? :D

Yes a new build is ready with the snapdragon cam instead the google cam in about 3-4 hours
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
Just to clarify: The Documents Provider Storage is perfectly fine. No issues.

It looked like someone complained about "missing file" or something and I replied that I don't know what's missing since Documents Provider Storage is working perfectly normal.

So no issues related to the file browser as it is.

I know what you mean about the G-Apps but I think Chrome is a bit of an issue. The other ones are fine but there are problems related to Chrome specifically, both performance and certain power consumption things.

So I think CAF based browsers are a better implementation of Chromium than Chrome.

The rest of the G-Apps are very good generally speaking but Chrome.... isn't what it ought to be. Perhaps I am colored by all complaints and my own experiences but I still remember what a mess it was when AOSP Browser were replaced in 4.2.2 (I think it was). The complaining and moaning and groaning started right away.

I give it some whirl to and from but I always end up removing it and return immediately to CAF browsers or Gello etc. It is just too slow for my liking. I also got some suspicious power drain with it.

CS Browser/CAF 60.x are a great experience on the other hand. I thought the 58.x base was fast but was still pleasantly surprised by the 60.x. Plus that I like the idea of "Snapdragon optimized browsers". Perhaps "placebo" but it does have a nice ring to it: A Snapdragon Browser by CAF running on a Snapdragon device.;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Feel free to open an other poll about specific apps, I will then do what the majority chooses :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] PassieWater:
Hi guys. I am on global rom now... Android 6.01

Do i have to flash new firmware before flashing this rom? If yes.... can i do that in twrp?

I would love to test this rom. I have RR on my S2 tab and love it.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Make a complete wipe, flash the firmware, flash the rom, flash one of the three root varaiants, all in twrp and reboot. That's it :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sameermehta1977:
dave is it on my phone or fm radio has been removed,if so how can i enable it back,music player i understand i have put google music but why fm any specific reason for it,i guess some people are just forcing rhis rom to be there own way,fm was standard feature in official lineage also,if this has to be a case of influenced rom settings then i should better move to some other rom

dont want to sound rude or hypocrite but thia what i am seeing

thanks
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] PassieWater:
You are faster then a rocket... Lol

Thnx for the answer.....
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
I will do it now.

Edit: Now open.

https://xdaforums.com/mi-max/how-to/browser-selection-rr-5-8-3-t3650115/post73251996#post73251996
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
If you can't renounce of the lineageOS FM Radio app which is a pretty dead project and doesn't work for many users, then yes, you should try an other rom OR just use one of the hundreds radio apps from playstore or apkmirror ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sameermehta1977:
ok thanks,i will move out,best wishes
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
Good luck, enjoy the radio. Interesting to replace a whole ROM because of a radio app, though. I like the Sony FM Radio, I think I will change ROM immediately...

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You ask too much! You should know that it is extremely hard to search for "FM radio" on Play Store or APK Mirror.

It requires a 12 credit "Android 101" college/university class as part of the

"Bachelor of Android Use" degree.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Zasnizas:
Why do we need to make easier things to become difficult? Actually we don't need to make pol at all. Just make this rom like what they are and let's user's choose what they want to do with it. They can choose whatever they want base on their personal used. That's it's it very easy so no one will get headache, right? Note: this is only my opinion.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
Lets ask a very simple question:

What benefits are those AOSP apps providing?

It sounds like every person complaining want them to stay without any replacement but the question is why? Is there a particular benefit beside them being "AOSP" that make them more "suitable" than G-Apps?

The polls gave a decent response regarding G-Apps and the numbers are clear: G-Apps are preferred generally speaking.

I didn't know that those AOSP apps were so appreciated. Can't even remember that I ever heard the argument: "I flashed my device with a new ROM so I could get rid of the G-Apps in favor of the AOSP apps!"
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sameermehta1977:
e90 why dont you build a rom for yourself instead of speaking for everybody,yes i will enjoy my listening to radio since its fearure available with phone and should ne enabled,just because some where it is not working you start disabling actual features of the phone

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anyways i am not going to comment on thid further because all this is going haywire ,this app that app,i dont know what app,updates in couple of hours,disabling of marketted phone features,this rom is good and hats off to dave but right now its nowhere
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
To make the "difficult" things easy again :D :

Before, you got a stock launcher, dialer, messenger, calendar, calculator, browser, emailapp, music, recorder, radio, cclock all from aosp and all of them are system apps and if you want to remove them you must use a third party tool.

Most of the people remove at least half of these apps, some even all of them an replace them with stock GApps.

What I did now: I replaced the stock launcher, dialer, messenger, calendar, browser, calculator and clock with exactly those apps that most people use, GApps. In addition there is google playservices and the playstore installed. (pico, nothing else) I'm sure 99,9% of all users use at least these two google apps.

so far, you don't have any disadvantages. Maybe there are some people out there that don't use any google apps and are happy with all AOSP apps, but these people are clear a minority, so I'm sorry for them.

the only thing you could say is "difficult" now are the additions of V4A and substratum if you are one of those who don't use it, cause now you have to remove them. But as you can see in the poll, these people are the minority too.

Benefits: You don't have to flash any gapps now, you got every essential app up to date from GApps and the playstore preinstalled to install everything you need.

You don't have to bother about the V4A installation, which is not just a simple app installation from playstore for many users. I preconfigured everything, so you just need to open the app, click on yes to install the driver and reboot. (No renaming files, changing SElinux permission, I/O error etc.)

so under the line things are not difficult now, they are easier and more comfortable for the clear majority :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Zasnizas:
Like I said before, just let user's choices what they want weather gapps or aosp it up to them. Don't need to bundle it with this rom.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Your feedback so far was:

switch back to snapcam --- > done

Error with nova launcher updating to beta ---> done, fixed update bug and preinstalled latest beta version

hydrogen is up now, get it over OTA, helium is uploading, should be ready in 30 minutes. If you don't need the changes just skip it. No cleanflash required now, tried the dirtyflash and everything is fine. You can remove the google cam after the flash normally, it's no more a system app after the flash.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] HannibalLecter:
I believe each and every word you said in this post is PERFECT.

All AOSP apps need to GO. They work but are old (Email, calendar, dialer, calc, clock, browser - NOBODY USES THEM AND ON EACH ROM AND EACH DEVICE, the first thing that I do and majority of people do is to disable them, thats why there are multiple debloater scripts out there that people flash after ROMs to get rid of these old aosp apps) and New Google apps are MUCH BETTER AND LATEST. (most notably Dialer, Calendar, Gmail, clock)

Regarding browser - I think you can include CS CAF browser and skip chrome because chrome itself does NOT come in pico gapps so, there is a point of Not including it. I agree with you that deciding on gapps over aosp apps and not choosing chrome might look a step back but We also chose pico gapps and chrome isn't a part of it.

Plus those who need chrome can simply install it from play store.

CS browser won't harm. and as [MENTION=1547420]E90 Commie[/MENTION] said it is optimized and latest so that's cool.

Reg file explorer, I didnt understand whats the issue. Just remove aosp one if we ever had it and don't include anything (or you can include MiXplorer as it is quite popular on xda) even if you don't solid explorer is just a download away.

Camera is an important thing.

I'm fine with google camera but snap camera offers more (strangely) so it become imperative to include it. :)

This ROM is going in the PERFECT direction. We're getting rid of aosp bloat and keeping pico (minimal gapps) with old aosp apps replaced with latest Google apps which look better, work better and are latest. They are included in the latest PIXEL phones (loved by android purists) so they are obviously better than AOSP one.

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Gapps are not bundled in with this ROM.

Only old aosp apps such as AOSP Dialer, AOSP Calendar (WORTHLESS piece of ****), AOSP email (even a monkey would not use it), AOSP email Exchange (same reason), clock (old), calc (old plus not really different from google one), are REPLACED with GOOGLE Dialer, Google Calendar, GMAIL, Google clock, google calc.

It is just pico gapps which you would have flashed after the ROM either ways. Just playstore, and play services
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
There are tons of roms on xda with preinstalled AOSP apps, so everyone can switch to them. Leaving everything on default an just doing weekly a make clean, repo sync, . build/envsetup.sh, brunch hydrogen && helium is really not my thing.

I like to make changes that you don't find everywhere, so either people like my work or they don't. That's the beauty of android development. It is a masterpiece of customization and individualization where everybody can choose what he prefers :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] HannibalLecter:
This is more of a RR pixelized flash and go ROM.

I love it.

Clean, minimal and new.

Don't forget: It is based on Nijel's tree. ;)

PS: I know he is reading this. :P

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100% agree.

I like the way you roll.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
No problem, just vote for the CS CAF browser and if the majority want it, they will get it, same with MiXplorer or any other app ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
HannibalLecter: WORD! 100% agree.

The ROM configuration is now reaching the "just perfect" state. It offer a decent suite of updated apps and is optimized from scratch rather than something "traditional" with loads of AOSP apps that are replaced by G-Apps anyways...;)

I think the arguments for the current configuration are way stronger than anything circulating around "keep AOSP apps". It is 2017 now, not 2012 or so when the situation was different.

Regarding V4A: OK, we can argue to the next ice age whether it should be V4A 2.5.0.5 or Viper4ARISE but one thing is for sure: It is an improvement over the stock audio engine and I can't even remember when I ever considered it to be "worse" compared to the stock audio drivers. Perhaps those with SkullCandy's or Beats will disagree but they have bigger worries (their headphones....) than V4A.

I still remember the first time I flashed V4A and it produced a very nice, detailed bass/midrange with my Grado's. No EQ change, just flat but the overall audio quality got a decent boost.

Arguing against V4A (i.e. favoring stock drivers) are pretty pointless unless a better solution can be provided. I mean BETTER (no, stock audio drivers just don't belong to that category) - not something along the lines of "I survived without V4A since 2009 so don't include it now!"

I think the most important question for ROM inclusion is:

1. Is it a good app (it's AOSP just means that it is AOSP, not that it is good)?

2. Why is it a good app? (Interface, usability etc)

3. Does it improve the device?

Since it is Google Android we are running replacing AOSP Apps with G-Apps is the correct choice, the same goes for Nova Launcher preinstalled (don't think it is possible to find a logical argument against its qualities) and V4A.

Those with "principles" such as "it should be AOSP apps!" etc should reconsider whether they are logical or emotional.

One thing is for sure: The 20170730 build is an important historical artifact that demonstrated love between humans and their apps due to the very interesting responses appearing in the thread ever since....;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] HannibalLecter:
@ E90 Commie

I haven't followed V4A thread and all its releases. But I guess ARISE is the latest and the best.

So, I am hopeful for future builds to have ARISE included.

If we are going to have V4A, why not have the latest and the greatest? :P hahha

Also, I request you to link me to your insane battery settings and configuration post (or better yet, like you created poll threads, I request you to create a nbew battery thread where you explain your config to Get INSANE 0.01% battery/hr settings)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
I certainly like your work. This ROM was excellent before and is even more refined now with well thought out choices.

You can't build great things on conservatism, especially not "I want my AOSP Apps and Lineage FM Radio!" - progress is needed sometimes.;)

This ROM is now approaching something like the good old PAC back in the 4.3 days.

The ROMs I have the best impressions of during my Android years are this one/RR in general, AICP and PAC beside HyperDroid 1.1 (which was the first Android ROM I ever used and what made me transition from WM 6.5.x). BlissROM has also delivered.

Since I started to use Google services back then I haven't had any issues with G-Apps even if I rejected Chrome due to it being far behind the AOSP Browser due to performance and power consumption issues.

I think this ROM is also based on the best ideological concept: Take vanilla Android and expand and enhance it while keeping its look and feel.

One thing is for sure: Are you in love with MIUI?

Flash it ASAP and stay there. This is still(!) NOT a thread for MIUI worship.

Even if you feel such an urge to just praise its "smoothness" or "audio" - just don't in this thread.;)

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I must admit that I am a bit confused regarding V4A development even if I have the ARISE thread in my subscriptions. It seems like ARISE is a bit of a "fork" based off V4A and that they are partly in "parallell" development, including certain varieties like V4A-Sony-Beats edition.

I will flash my device soon (when I got the Helium build downloaded) but I wrote about power management in the Lineage OS thread by njiel8.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] man2106:
just to check with you guys is ur helium running hot past few builds 42℃ for me is it normal this is after clean flash
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Italiandoitbetter:
Viper4fx don't work

Hi, for me viper4fx don't work, could you make a separate zip for flashing?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
What did you do ?
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
It is not normal, check what your device is doing. Sounds like some process are running rogue here.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nijel8:
Please, don't, please...
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
The power management I do is pretty straight forward:

1. Disable unnecessary Google Play Services:

https://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/disabling-google-play-services-guide-t2999821

2. Deny unnecessary Keep Awake and Run in Background permissions using Privacy Guard.

3. Use the integrated Alarm and Wakelock blocker for blocking certain wakelocks and alarms.

It works perfectly well on my device and it is around 0.0-0.1% per hour in standby.

I have been using those steps for a long time now and my record is 368 hours standby on the Xperia Z Ultra before I finally plugged in the charger.

Edit: Those savings are not for everyone but they work well here.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Italiandoitbetter:
I don't hear any differences, the driver said neon enabled Yes, second linea enabled=no
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
This step is something I always do with V4A:

Go to vendor\etc and remove/rename audio_effects.conf using any file manager with root access (ex. Root Browser)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
did you followed the instructions ?

clean flash, ROOT of your choice, open the app, click on yes to install the driver and WAIT !!! it takes about 1 minute until the confirmation appears and then just reboot. I did this now about 4-5 times in my last builds. It works without any problems!! :)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
Also, this might be necessary with other V4A versions, but not with the one that is preinstalled in my build ;)
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Davehimself:
please send a screenshot of your driver status
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] khaled7mailru:
Hello everyone there!i am getting low result in antutu between 63000 and 65000,i did clean flash for last rom 2/08 , anyone can chek on his device plz,i have the 4/128 version
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] HannibalLecter:
thanks for bringing me back to my senses.

and thanks a lot lot more for the reply.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] E90 Commie:
I am setting the power savings up now and it work well so far. Start to get down to where they should be. The new build is really smooth as well.
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] iguoh:
I just clean flashed 20170801 and the weather widget on the search bar works now! This ROM is becoming so awesome! Thanks so much [MENTION=8001680]Davehimself[/MENTION]!
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mandarthedon19@gmail.com:
I am with you Dave :good:
[Xiaomi Mi Max ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] parnz:
Hi, How can I completely remove Nova Google Companion.

Google Now, Microsoft Cortana, Siri there're useless in my 3rd world country. I'm considered it's a boat ware.

delete com.teslacoilsw.launcherclientproxy from /data/data/ but it keep coming back.

Much appreciate thank you. :)