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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nazo:
How did you get the 7th generation rooted? This would still be quite an improvement.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Unfortunately, at least for now, only root will fix that.

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My 7th gen, HD 10 is pretty much rootable out of the box now, and has been for a few months now. I also own a rooted 5th gen Fire 7, and a unlocked HD 8.9 (my favorite, but as I hack the HD 10, it's pretty close to tying it).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nazo:
Well, yes, that's what you said before. But how did you get the 7th gen system rooted?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
KingoRoot. https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayzjay:
Links to Play Store give error on HD 10 2017

I have the Google Play Store installed and it works fine for installing apps.

My problem is that when I click a link that should take me to the Play Store I get a message saying the app is trying to load a link with an external market that is not available and asks if I want to go to Amazon appstore.

Is there a way to "register" the Play Store so that the Fire knows it is there and able to open links?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Not unless you disable the Amazon app store and to do that you have to meet one of two requirements 1) be on FireOS 5.4.0.0 or lower or 2) have root access.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nazo:
Darn. I was hoping something new was found that would also work on the 7. You implied this works on the 8, does it? I don't know if I should do this on my grandmother's system as there are some advantages that can be useful for her (but I'd definitely have to disable updating and etc.) EDIT: Nevermind. I looked back and you said 8.9 which of course is a different beast entirely. Oh well.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
It only roots the HD 10 for now.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CplHunter:
I have a new-in-box 2017 Fire HD 10 sitting on my desk. Due to yesterday's new story about uncertified devices, I am now hesitant to open the box.

https://www.xda-developers.com/google-blocks-gapps-uncertified-devices-custom-rom-whitelist/

If I intend to use it with google apps, play store, etc, should I be concerned? I am unable to register my device on the site listed in the story above, I only receive the message, "Uh oh. Something went wrong. Please try again." Has anyone been able to successfully register their device?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
I believe Google is blocking build dates of a certain time and newer, so if you want Google services you may not want to install updates
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnny052:
I'm in the same boat here. Currently on the latest Fire OS 5.6.0.1. How would I go about blocking Fire OS updates? Preferably without root.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
There is not in my opinion, a definite way to stop updates without root.

Probably the more reliable option is to block Amazon update addresses with your router, then don't connect to other routers.

But Amazon could change ip address, and have in the past.

Another method is to stop Amazon update services with abd commands, but is highly unreliable.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CplHunter:
From my noob point of view, if we could register our devices via google's site, that would allow gapps to continue functioning. Is this correct?

I'm trying to determine if my inability to register a fire device on google's site is an anti-Amazon "feature" of theirs, or simply a bug on their end.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnny052:
My concern is that Google site specifically mentions uncertified "Custom ROMs". The wording doesn't exactly apply to Fire devices (on stock OS).

From what I've read online, a LOT of people are getting error messages when entering their Android ID.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
From what I understand, when and if this is implemented, devices flagged as 'uncertified' when trying to sign into Google services, Google will prompt users to input their device's Secure Android ID in order to to use services. Your Android ID can be found in 'secure settings' listed as 'android_id.'

You got an error when trying to register because they aren't yet enforcing the policy across all devices.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedbartlet:
OK, with the discussion above about Google's services potentially blocking uncertified devices, maybe I'll bring rooting up the priority list... In which case, once rooted, how would I go about adding the accounts functionality as above?

Cheers :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
That's one thing I discovered since I've been able to mod the framework and settings. Though it involves somewhat of an extreme measure. However good news is, I've been able to successfully mod Amazon's settings and redirect them to stock Android screens or switches etc. I'd like to be able to do that with accounts, but so far I've not been able to do it unless I completely replace settings altogether.

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blue_Churo:
So...I did a funny dumb thing. I uninstalled too many amazon apps and deleted them from the priv-app directory on the system to make them *stay* removed.

Now the Kindle Fire 10 2017 starts up and does what I want on one half (Skips the kindle setup, it's like a generic android tablet now) but the USB part doesn't work and I can't even enable USB debugging. "Build Number" is greyed out and cannot be touched.

Is there a way I can re-flash the official ROM?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Yes, basic instructions posted in

http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/unbrick-amazon-fire-7in-2015-5th-gen-t3285294

It's written for the 5th gen Fire

So be sure to use firmware for your device.

Beware that trying to flash and older firmware or firmware for a different device often will brick the Fire tablet

If you click the amazon firmware link, your Fire version should have a link in the left side.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Latest HD 10 firmware is available on Amazon's site. It's still root able if it's 5.6.0.1.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blue_Churo:
Thanks a ton you two! I'll be doing this later. I am at 5.6.0.1, glad to have root since I hate bloat.

Once I figure out reflashing to stock, I'll worry even less when trying to purge amazon/kindle/bloat and report my findings somewhere. :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Just download the firmware from here. Make sure to save a copy in and put it in a safe place in case you need to flash again. I presume you have ADB up and running? If so once you downloaded the firmware, connect tablet to PC and make sure debugging is enabled in developer options. Open ADB window and type:

adb reboot recovery

Once in recovery, select wipe/factory reset. Once wiped, and back at the recovery screen, select wipe cache partition. When that's finished, unplug tablet from PC and select the option to power down. Wait about 45 seconds and then press and hold first, the volume up button then power button. Hold both until you see the white Amazon logo and let go of the power button first then the volume up button. When recovery screen comes back on, select 'apply update from ADB' and plug your tablet back into PC. Find the firmware file you just downloaded and place it into ADB folder. Right click the firmware file and copy the ENTIRE filename. Go back to ADB window, making sure the tablet is still in ADB recovery and tye:

adb sideload firmwarefilename.bin

It will take about 5-10 minutes for the update to complete. When it's done, do another factory reset and cache wipe from recovery then reboot system. The reboot will take about 10 minutes.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tonycxd:
Can you give me the recovery backup of fire hd

10 7gen, i lose it thank you
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unfrozencaveman:
Sorry if this was posted somewhere else before but a search came up empty. I have a 7th gen kindle fire 8 and I used a popular method from an earlier thread on firmware 5.4.0 to block amazon updates and remove lock screen ads. I also use the hijacker to change launcher. My question is about the built in amazon apps that I cannot update. I saw someone mention there was a way to change the build.prop file to allow those apps to update? Is this true? I would be willing to try to root if it was possible as well. Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Can't change the build prop without root and there's no root for 5.4.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adm1jtg:
Brand new to fire hd 10 (2017) but not new to android and nexus phones....

Just bought my fire 10, I have added google frameworks and play store and rooted it. Also blocked all updates by BOTH freezing the 2 app files that are supposed to be responsible for updates and also just to be safe blocked on the router as well. Currently on os version 5600.

I would like to side load all of the 5610 update WITHOUT updating the boot loader. Here is where I need help:

If I understand it right, I need a modified bin file to flash with the boot loader parts removed... I haven't been able to find this anywhere (only for 5601 not for 5610).... I did find a tutorial on how to try it myself but it makes references to using mtk tools to do it and I neither have there tools, nor could find links to them as it was not specific what I was actually looking for, and even if I could find them I don't have the knowledge on how to use them. Does anyone have a link to a pre-modded 5610... I assume I would have to root again and am ok with that.

Now the other issue I have is FlashFire... which from reading is the app we need in order to side load said modified .bin file. I have the recommended .24 version. It wont run at all. Just flashes a white screen and right back to app drawer. I followed the guide I found to convert both supersu and FlashFire to system apps via apps2sd, installed busy box from same app. From adb shell issued the following

busybox date -s "201509221745" (really dont want to install exposed and all that as once upgrade is done and I am backed up I wont be using flashily at all), No luck when I tap flashily it just flashes a white screen and closes, STILL.

Dont know what I am doing wrong but since I don't have a valid NON BOOTLOADER version of 5610 guess it doesn't matter atm.

Can someone please help me with some step by step instructions and a modded bin to do this update?

I cant be the only one wanting to do this can I?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SweetGoat:
Fire HD 8 2017 boot loop

My wife's Fire HD 8 2017 is suddenly stuck in a boot loop. The Amazon logo will display, the screen will go black, and then the logo will be displayed again.

I've tried to hold the power button for 60+ seconds and nothing happens. So I can't even get it to turn off. I've tried to get the device into a recovery mode by holding Volume Up + Power and also tried Volume Down + Power. Nothing happens, but again, I can't actually get it to turn off first. I tried to run down the battery so it would turn off, but as soon as it's plugged back in to charge, the boot loop starts back up again.

Running "./adb devices" doesn't list the tablet, but the tablet wasn't also previously set for Enable ADB in Developer Options.

I contacted Amazon and apparently the HD 8 2017 only has a 90 day warranty, so unfortunately no help there. This was a stock device with no modifications outside of setting up Google Play to load some basic apps back in Sep 2017. The tablet has worked more or less OK since then until now.

I'd really appreciate any help or advice. Thank you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Don't plug it in. Let it run out. It will power off with about 2% left. When it does, let it sit for a minute or two, then press volume down first, then power, but hold both until the Amazon logo appears and let go of both. Once it gets to recovery, if it does, plug it in to an outlet, not your PC, and do nothing for several hours. Perform a factory reset and then reboot. Don't power off. If that doesn't fix it, repeat the process above and when in recovery, select the adb option and side load the latest firmware.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SweetGoat:
Thank you for the reply, DragonFire. I tried what you suggested, but was unable to get into recovery.

When it shuts down for low power while unplugged, I tried holding down Volume Down, then Power. It just displays the low battery graphic and makes a little noise then shuts back off.

So tried again with it shut down for low power, plugged in to wall charger, then immediately tried to get into recovery. No go, boot loop. Let it charge a little bit and tried again. No go, boot loop.

There may be something else wrong with this thing. I just noticed that it doesn't seem to be actually charging the battery when plugged into the wall charger. I had it plugged in for quite awhile and it was still at the point where it would quickly shut down when not plugged in.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Try different cables. You might he surprised when you think the one you have is ideal. If trying other cables doesn't work, then you maybe at a loss. You could look into replacing the battery.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s2tab:
Is it possible to install a custom rom on the newest Fire HD 10? Not sure what gen, thinking of picking up the latest one on Amazon

If not, is it possible to flash something where you can use the device without an Amazon account?

I'm not planing on using anything in the Amazon ecosystem with the device
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Possible? Yes. I've been trying to build or port one, but I've never done that before so I'm taking my time. I can mod the SystemUI, framework and Settings.apks and will soon release a settings APK that will really blow your socks off.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adm1jtg:
Cant wait... My replacement tablet should arrive Tuesday... Will it be based on 5610?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
No way to tell till you power it on.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adm1jtg:
I meant DragonFire1024 build.. which version would it be based on?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
I've no idea to be honest. It's a process that will take me time to learn. I don't know how developers like [MENTION=5749760]ggow[/MENTION] do it. Of all the things I've done or tried to do, porting and or building a ROM has been the most difficult to learn.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adm1jtg:
Ok I am no dev by any means but to me it would SEEM (and remember i am extremely new to amazon stuff) that you could make your modded files, SystemUI, framework and Settings.apks , adb push them into your running rom, make sure they work and then make a backup to img file using either flashfire or dd and then that image should be usable by everyone as a system.img file. The only issue I can think of atm is that you would need to do all this WITHOUT logging into amazon as you would not want to have an image file with any personal information in it.

Again probably a very oversimplified approach and i may be missing some huge technical issue that makes this invalid but this seems like it should work. When my tablet comes in on Tuesday and I read a little more about recovery procedures on the fire I would be happy to help you test.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
The trick is getting them to work without root. When I get home I'm going to test a few things. In regards to Amazon, they are probably well aware of my doing by now and also aware of the fact we have Devo mode on rooted devices. I keep learning little bits of what it is supposed to do. I'll explore more of that tonight.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s2tab:
Can you use the device without registering?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Yes.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cable_guy:
Hi, totally new to Amazon hardware outside of Fire TV, but looking at the Fire HD 8 with special offers and wonder if it's possible to

1) Download prime movies to the SD card and not the internal 16GB partition

2) Transfer AVI movie files to the SD card and play them back

3) take the lock screen adverts off the "Special Offers" edition
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Not unless you have root access or are in FireOS 5.4.0.0 or lower. However coming soon, I'm releasing the ultimate FireTabletSettings APK for the HD 10. I was able to successfully include the option to allow all apps to be installed to the SD card. This is one of very many settings I've reactivated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Colossus96:
Hi is it possible to add profile picture in my fire hd 8? After signing in i can see my name as profile but not picture. How can i set it up?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Download Google contacts from play store. Setup profile through there by adding picture.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jowee00:
Ok so I have my 7th gen HD10 rooted now and I'm going to try to get xposed working but I want to do a backup first, but I don't exactly know how to do that. Can someone explain how-to back up my system?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adm1jtg:
Look through the forum about installing and using flashfire

Also look for the pre-rooted, xposed 5610 image you can flash through it as its way easier then installing xposed yourself
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jowee00:
I see the post about Flashfire, but it says to install xposed first.

It does have an option to install flashfire without xposed, but it it's says to use busybox, which I don't know what that is.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adm1jtg:
You will see references to a free app called app2sd this app will allow you to install busybox and also to convert apps from user to system (You may want to do this later)

You can also just install busybox from playstore if you have the google playstore runing

As far as backups my understanding is the ONLY way to backup your system is with flashfire and in your instance you will have to do it using the busybox method.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jowee00:
Thanks a lot, I got everything working great.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adm1jtg:
Awesome glad I could help
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Colossus96:
Anyone knows if fire HD 8 support hotspot? When using shareit it shows hotspot is created but the other device cannot find it. I have to send a small file to the other device and then send files from the other device. I cannot directly receive in shareit from fire HD 8. Anyone knows how to make it work?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
You can use Bluetooth. Download an app from the play store that shares files. I don't know of the one I use off hand.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jowee00:
So I have Root, SuperSU, flashfire, busybox, and Xposed working but for some reason I can't convert user and into system apps.

I'm using app2sd for conversion, but I also tried converting SuperSU using it's own menu but that didn't work either.

Thoughts?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Use a root file explorer. Go to /data/app and cut the folder of the app you want to be a system app to /system/priv-app.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jowee00:
I just tried this with root browser classic, and it said "Operation Failed"
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Did you make sure to set superSu from prompt to grant?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jowee00:
Yes.

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I think I find the problem. The system partition is set to read only.

I've tried everything to set it to read/write but it won't work.

I've tried using adb and es file explorer.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Download app from play store called root explorer (just explorer for unpaid version I think). When you open it, you will see two tabs, root and storage. Tap root tab. Find system folder and tap it. Right under the system tab (that was the root tab) it says how much space is used available and if the system is mounted r/o or r/w. You want r/w so tap on it. If you're properly root, that will make the system read/write.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jowee00:
That does nothing, no indication that tapping it is even a button that had an action.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
I would then start over from stock. I'm not sure why you're having this issue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] froppucino:
Need space

So I snagged one of these (HD 8) about a week ago, got it set up with the play store, and downloaded ES File Explorer. First thing I noticed was that out of 5.63 GB, almost 3.5 GB of it is taken up by "Other". I'd assume these are worthless apps like Alexa and Mopria. How do I get rid of them, or if it's not that, fix the space issue?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cpt.mactavish:
Sudden battery drain

I think my backup was better before...

Got a firehd 10

But suddenly it's consuming 5% for every 20 min.

Tab is only 2 months old and I always use original or charger...and charge tab when battery goes down to 30% (sometimes 20/15 % at lowest ..never drained it less than 15%)

Why k

I'm facing such drain.. ?? Already reset tab once ...still the same

I'm not using any sdcard(since there's a issue with sd's in hd8)

Solution..??
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Is it the HD 10 2017 version?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cpt.mactavish:
Yup...Firehd10 2017 edition....using only for 4 months now....never drained the battery to 0% ...used to recharge at 20%

Suddenly battery backup went to half.....
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
The HD 10 2017 model can be rooted. You can root and try debloat.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cpt.mactavish:
But why the backup reduced (half the hours than previous...) suddenly

Now I only get 4.30 hours of screen on time...where I used to get more
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
In developer options, make sure wifi scanning is off. Other than that try a reset. I don't have this issue on mine, but the tablet isn't registered to Amazon. I also am heavily debloated
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cpt.mactavish:
Mine is also not registered to Amazon..wifi roam scanning is off too... already reseted...same half backup.....getting around 5-5.30 hours SOT backup.... After uninstalling play services

What is normal SOT you get?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
All of my tablets are debloated of the usual suspects and if not on regular usage, last days without a charge. Then again the only Amazon tablet I own that's not rooted, is the HD 8, but it's on 5.4.0.0 and severely debloated. I guess it all depends what you use it for.