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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -Space-Madness-:
Thanks for the intel! I know about the bloatware article already, just need to bum a friend's laptop to borrow to use it! (This goes back to me being very cheap hehe). As to being able to find the App in Amazon however, I have not had that luxury at all.. a lot of the games I paid for in Google App Store I haven't been able to find. Such as Minecraft.

I have also been running into somme crazy issues with the bluetooth on this thing, but for that I'm going to get in contact with Amazon themselves to make sure it's not just a defective tablet that needs replaced. Thanks again!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Robius:
There's a tool to remove bloatware and ads in the 7" forum, take a look. It can also install Google services and play store.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ralphort:
This ad removal fix is only temporary. For a permanent fix, call Amazon & tell them to opt out &/or remove the ads on Fire tab lock screen. They'll do it for free.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
It's temporary until you do a factory reset. Disable OTA packages to stop Amazon from potentially fixing your modification(s) and reactivating them.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iknight8:
I just got my 8" HD with 5.4.0.1... can you please share how you got the Play Store in the tablet?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] feelfreetoblameme:
I just got a new Fire HD 8 and I went on the Amazon chat and got them to remove the ads. They did try to charge me 15 dollars for it at first, and after I said that I had read online that it was free to remove the ads and said something about only wanting the ads off the lockscreen. The rep said she would escalate it to a supervisor and then told me that they would make a one-time exception and I got the ads disabled. A little message popped up on my tablet that confirmed the ads were gone. Thanks to everyone on this forum for this tip!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ralphort:
The thing is, I never mentioned about paying to get rid of the ads when I placed a call & talked with an Amazon rep. On another related forum thread I've read here at xda, a guy tried to bargain with a rep why he should not pay to remove those ads mainly because he's a loyal customer or something... blah, blah, blah... I just told the rep straight to the point that I got a problem with my Amazon Fire tab - can't get rid of those Amazon ads. After checking my Amazon account, she then asked me where I bought my tablet (Target) then started the ads removal process. Before the conversation ended, the rep did explained to me that my opting out doesn't mean I won't be getting anymore ads from Amazon. It's just that it won't happen everyday but once every few months which is totally fine with me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] commandlinekid:
RIGHT! I've never understood the apologists-for-the-great-dumbing-down.

The idea is this: I bought a little computer. It's mine. Get off my **** Amazon.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Ever hear the expression 'read the small print?' You paid for exactly what they offered. They don't lie about ads and it's pretty clear it's a FireOS tablet, not an 'Android' tablet. It's buyer beware. If you don't read the print, that's on you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] commandlinekid:
No. You are wrong. That is the most misguided thing I've ever heard. You're either young or dumb. That is 100% antithetical to what decades of real men building real things believe and Must preserve for the sake of the future. Else everything will become "Facebook" and all children will become retarded.

Shame on your anti actual progressive spew. Go away.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
You failed to read the print. That's not my fault or anyone elses on this site. It is not advertised as an Android tablet. Now here is another expression: 'you get what you pay for.' if you don't like the tablet, return it. Otherwise enjoy your new device ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arklytte:
:good::good::good:

Well said. :) It's noone's fault but your own if you didn't read the small print. If you didn't want ads, you're welcome to pay more for having them removed - or, as dozens of posts all over the forums indicate, get on LiveChat or call and talk to a CSR and they'll remove them with little to no hassle. That's what I did.

Commandlinekid sounds like just what the last part of his username is...a kid, whining that the GoBot he bought isn't a Transformer, even though the package CLEARLY said 'GoBot' on it. And then, hurling insults at anyone who has the GASP temerity to point that fact out.

Are the ads annoying? Sure! But they can be removed with minimal fuss and about 10 minutes of your time. Is the fact that it (currently) cant be rooted annoying? Sure! But as DragonFire said: You get what you pay for. And what you paid for is a FireOS tablet that runs a highly customized version of Android. And 90% of the customizations are geared towards spoon feeding you Amazon's products and services. That's what you knowingly bought. And if you, in your arrogance, or ignorance, chose to ignore the fine print, that's noone's fault but your own. If you want a rootable tablet that runs standard Android there are plenty of them out there. The price points are higher, of course, since they're not a vehicle for feeding off the sweet, sweet tit of Amazon (insert sarcasm smiley here), so, there's that. But from the sounds of it, CLK wanted something that was both cheap AND easily configurable, and is griping that that's not what he/she got - again, despite the fact that terms of the purchase were CLEARLY SPELLED OUT. Having your cake and eating it too is nice, but it rarely actually works that way in the real world.

(BTW, all 'you' references are the general 'you', not the 'you' that I quoted. :) It's also not (other than where he/she is specifically mentioned) Commandlinekid either, just for the sake of clarification, and to avoid flames.)

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All that being said, does anyone know if there's been any more progress on rooting this tablet? While I do enjoy mine, and, IMO, the ads are more of a minor annoyance than an actual 'issue', I would still love to be able to remove some of the bloat and customize it a bit more. I *like* the pipeline to all of my Amazon stuff, and since I pay for a Prime membership, I dont want that gone. I just want a bit more control.

Thanks in advance for any additional info/help! :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxawesome:
Easily get the ads removed

I'll qualify this by saying I've been a Prime member for 8 years, so YMMV if you haven't.

I contacted Amazon support via Chat (Devices > My Fire > subject: "Special Offers" > details: "I need help with special offers."). The first thing the agent said was, "I see you need help with special offers on My Fire. Do you want them removed?"

I said, "yes".

He says, "Normally this costs $15/20, but today as an exception I will remove them."

I had to connect the tablet to wifi and reboot, and they're gone. It took 5 minutes. Done.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drynyks:
This thread has been hijacked
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sensboston:
This thread should be closed, and replaced by the straight forward FAQ announcement: THERE IS NO ROOT FOR THE FIRE HD 8 7-TH GEN (2017) YET!

P.S. I know, it's a worthless: people will continue asking instead of reading FAQ... ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oldman_58:
multiline process

$ adb shell
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.kso
exit
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a1exus:
I'm getting this:

$ adb shell
shell@douglas:/ $ pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.kso
Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR]
1|shell@douglas:/ $
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
If you're on 5.4.0.1, it will fail. You have to downgrade back to 5.4.0.0 in order to uninstall/disable system apps.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Snigglez:
Where to begin hunting for exploits to gain root?

Agreeing with other posters here as I am really disappointed with this tablet.

I've lost near all my confidence and trust in Amazon due to this cheap and insulting (p)OS - really more of a just a tacky billboard disguised as a bad operating system.

It has a poor and unattractive UI and provides not even a little room for user modifications.

It is especially unnerving the extent of just how bad FireOS' restrictive design features really are, knowing the hardware itself is perfectly capable of far superior performance. This could have been a fantastic product that would have served to boost confidence and trust in Amazon's commitment to quality, garnering serious customer loyalty.

But instead turned out as a shameless and dirty greed-grab from Amazon; analogous to a severely retarded and ugly child that everyone in town thinks really should have aborted, but was instead kept around by the parents not out of love, but only so they could draw off welfare
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rattler1975:
Fire HD 8 (7th gen) More Info

Got on Christmas... came with Fire OS 5.4.0.1

Put Google apps on it.

It upgraded to 5.6.0.0

I contacted Amazon and they removed the ads...

Everything seems good. I can still install apps from google store.

Tried unlocking bootloader using several methods that have worked on similar (rootjunky gen 5 and others), no luck.

Tried Kingoroot several times... I thought it was going to work, but it didn't. (I tried both from PC and directly from Phone)

Can't do anything with it after screwing around with it for a few hours... makes me realize how much I don't know.

Pulled "more info" from Android_Device_System_Info.bat created by mattlgroff @ Batakang.com

Maybe someone smarter than me can figure something useful out...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
I wonder what air.com.pixelmags is. Df.txt file, very bottom.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rattler1975:
I think has something to do with Kindle Magazines.... I was looking at different magazines last night... I downloaded a couple. They both sucked if that matters :D

I forgot to mention I have an SD card installed... apparently it's a "Move to SD card" artifact.

Do you think it could be used as an exploit?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Not likely. I have been experimenting with installing Linux on Android. I've made a few discoveries that could potentially have an effect. If I can get them working without root that is.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rattler1975:
Too bad.

I will say that one nice thing about the Fire OS is what seems like the seamless ability to us an SD card for expanded memory. I just put it in and it "told" that it would be used for expanded memory (I forget the actual syntax it used). All apps automagically get put onto the SD card now if possible.

I've never installed Linux on top of an Android install.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Neither have I until the last week or so. Unfortunately doing so happened long before it's time and a lot of it is out of date software
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leathan:
Some people don't have time to read small print when the fact is it's inherently impossible to sell it and stop access. We will root this device as we've rooted the last million, time absolves even their best attempts, its inherent to logic.

Dear satoshi... does ANYONE have time to read that garbage?

Until i root it, im content with knowing it can still mine cryptocurrency using javascript via https://leat.io always make sure time is on your side ;)

COUGH COUGH
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EngTech:
My Daughter in-law bought me one of these for Christmas. She had set it up with her Amazon Account. I didn't much like it and saw no real use for it, so I got to researching the possibilities to turn it into something I might use. Before I reset it to make Amazon unaware of it I regretfully had upgraded to 5.6.0.0. I went ahead and began experimenting following the advice and knowledge of those that had come before me. A lot of good stuff on this board.

Right off I did the clear of the com.amazon.kindle.kso and it worked great. Right now I have it using Nova Launcher Prime with Hijacker 3. DragonFire1024 had a good thread on it here https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/launcher-root-launcher-hijack-v2-t3561026/post73308364

I also performed the appwidget bind and have them working on Nova without issue. https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/root-required-widgets-preferred-launcher-t3637813

I had also originally done the FireLauncher down grade https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73286439&postcount=38 with the Multi-Action Home Button app, but didn't care for its location and the parental control issue. This time(more on that to follow) I am without those two mods. I get the flicker once and a while and hopefully a fix will come along.

The interesting app and mod was Activity Launcher. https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/root-activity-launcher-to-remove-t3615276 I initially toggled the settings in "apps with usage as DragonFire1024 showed and created no issues. Then the trouble cam. I could not resist checking out the activities that it shows and eventually screwed up thing badly. This morning I did a factory reset and went back though everything except FireLauncher down grade.

DragonFire1024, you didn't mention it in your Activity Launcher thread but in the settings portion there is one fore "Home" the activity is com.android.settings.Settings$HomeSettingsActivity. This brings up another panel in the device settings that is hidden from us and I think it is what Nova is looking for when you try to select the default home and it kicks you into Settings with nowhere to get to. It has three current toggles on mine. FireLauncher, Settings, and Nova. Even though I select Nova every time I go back to Nova's setting it shows FireLauncher as the default. I've been looking in to the possibility of a forced bind on this through adb but haven't got anywhere. It may be an avenue for you to look down.

For anyone else who gives Activity Launcher a try be warned, and be very deliberate and careful with scrolling through it. A simple touch on one will activate it. The author would do well to make activation less simple. Start the wrong thing and you'll be resetting.

Another app that has been a big help is Es Folder Explorer. After trying it I upgraded to the Pro version. This or another like it helps to see everything on the device. If you don't have one like it you won't see the folder structure beyond what's default through the Fire and your usb connection on the PC.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
The home option in settings only works when using it in Hijacker. Otherwise you have to reapply the option after every reboot. Yes the activities can screw some stuff up, as I've learned. Many of us, including me, have reset more times than we can count.

ES File explorer is now considered by most to be adware, and bloat. I never used it. I prefer Total Commander without root, and bought Root Explorer, my favorite, which I use when I have root.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EngTech:
I couldn't include a shot of the setting page that is hidden.

www*x-plane*org\home\sideslip\images\home*png <---Make the right swaps to see.

I've got the Pro version so I don't experience that.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Diomorgan:
Ok, I hope not to be OT, but in europe the HD8 2017 price is $137 with ADS on lockscreen! And no, in europe they don't remove the ads for free even if you are an hardcore buyer like me...I bought it on offer for something like $110, and still I regret my decision.I had the HD7 one 2016 rootable with nice roms, I give it as gift to my nephew thinking about a root soon with slimrom for this one too, but nothing happened, and the WORST thing is the storage: since it's based on 5.1 no adoptable sd, can't move 99% of the apps to sd and without root no app2sd link.The Display is horrible (can you really read a book on it? No ways...) I bought on offer the Lenovo 8 Pro for $105 and is a real PRO, I can even use magisk on it for home banking and streaming apps or GPS for google maps!

I try to ask amazon for a refund for the bad quality of the item, but after a month there are no ways, fire policy is only a replacement, no refund, even if it brokes under warranty...

I would like to sell it, but I don't know if is it bounded to my account, I have to try to reset (it's on a shelf since months...) but I'm afraid that after reset, once connected it will ask if I want to go on with my amazon account (as it did out of the box), in addiction to that if I sell it I must be the "bridge" between the buyer and amazon if warranty is needed...

Sorry for the OT, maybe in USA rules are different and you can still give it back to amazon telling how the quality bad is.In europe (specially Italy) we don't have so much protection for the buyer :(

Maybe once rooted I will be able to sell it for the half price to someone that want a cheap rooted Lineage or so tablet.

Feel free to move this post if there is a better thread, I'm subcribed to this one, but as long as I can se after months we have no real progress :(

Thank you to eeveryone that is working on it anyhow!

Best wishes for the new year too ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ismaelgokufox:
Patiently waiting for the root. This device for 49.99 on sale is good. Keep it up guys!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sensboston:
Probably you've got scammed and received instead of Fire HD 8 some cheap Chinese junk (or Fire HD with cheap screen replacement). I've never heard about "horrible display" on Fire HD! Original Fire HD 8 display is very good: very bright, with very stable backlight, very good for reading/browsing/playing etc. Screen resolution is good for 8'' and screen DPI is enough for users without microscope :D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Diomorgan:
Scammed by amazon? Maybe the eu version is cheaper or bad stock, but even the hd7 2016 was pretty cheap, you can see the lateral lights, the resolution is low (my chinese $100 lenovo pro8 is full hd 8' very crisp, a pro compared the fire!) ok for a little browse, but read a book will hurt your eyes ?

I'm testing it again, even the view angle is poor... The only pro is the audio, but even the lenovo has dolby atmos, so I still regret and Ithink is overpriced!

I'm pretty sure that in usa is a good deal, specially if they use to remove ads for free (here it costs $15 more)...

By the way, since we are in the root thread I think that with root and better firmware with useful mods (first of all an adoptable storage or link2sd) it could be a good deal even in europe maybe... Remember is on 5.1 with Mediatek MT8163, hugly cameras with no flash and no gps while same price tablet got unofficial oreo allready... ?

The problem is that in europe the price of the 16GB one (32GB just appeared, and I knew it today, that make me angry, since one of the biggest problem is the internal space!) is $131 with advertising and $155 without advertising!

Can you blame me if I say that I can find better 8inches tablet for the same price (as I did, and so I'm trying to sell my HD on ebay, but it will be hard, I'll be lucky if I'll get 50% of what I paid...)? :((
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sensboston:
[MENTION=4168480]Diomorgan[/MENTION], probably you have some issues with the eyes; I can't even see a single dot on Fire HD 8 (1280x800, 189 dpi). And if you're thinking what "full HD" (i.e. 1920x1080) on your Chinese tablet is "much better" for reading, it's a big mistake ;) For your eyes it's the very same, trust me!

Fire HD 8 is perfect for reading; and for the price you can get it in US (brand new Fire HD8 (2017) for my daughter costs me $50, my Fire HD 8 (2016) "refurbished, in great shape" (from the latest slickdeals deal) costs me $20, including shipping) it's an unbeatable tablet and e-reader.

And (if you aren't messing up the OS, Amazon apps and do some other stupid crap) it works pretty fast and stable. Yes, Fire Launcher kinda too simple and not useful... for kids who starts playing new games every half an hour and install lot of junk- or bloatware. As for me, who's using FBReader, Wiki, YouTube, Chrome, and few more useful apps it's absolutely allright.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iiPandaii:
Hello to anyone reading this,

I own a Fire HD 8 (5th gen) with version 5.3.3. Is there a feasible way for me to root my device? I've tried to use rootjunky's tool, but whenever my device enters fastboot mode for root, my fire tablet doesn't do anything. Any help is appreciated!

-Thank you in Advance,

iiPandaii
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Unfortunately, there is no root for anything 5.3.2.1 and above, unless you own an HD 10 with 5.6.0.0.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iiPandaii:
Would it be possible to downgrade from 5.3.3 to 5.3.2.1?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
You cannot downgrade the HD 8 at all.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iiPandaii:
Wait, but I've discovered this forum where you can downgrade from 5.4.0. to 5.3.2.1 to get root.

(https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/unbrick-amazon-fire-7in-2015-5th-gen-t3285294)

Seeing that sideloading 5.3.2.1 from 5.3.3 would brick the fire, can I theoretically adb sideload 5.4.0 to my fire then adb sideload 5.3.2.1?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Not on the HD 8. Attempting to downgrade the HD 8 to any version, has so far resulted in an unrecoverable brick.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unforsaken:
Either not true or not with every version.

I have successfully downgraded from 5.6.0.1 to 5.6.0.0 without any issue. However, I have not tried to downgrade further yet.

The original 5.6.0.0 firmware for Fire HD 8 (7th Gen) Model # KFDOWI can be downloaded from here:

update-kindle-50.5.9.5_user_595457320.bin
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kieroneyt:
im running os 5.6.0.1 and ive tried everything but nothing has worked so far i have lucky patcher and google play and nova launcher with launcher hijack and i also dont have that annoying message of set this launcher as default if you wanna know how to remove that then, when it appears, hold the up volume button and power button and the device will restart and boot back up and it will disappear
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidboy29:
How do you have lucky patcher? You cannot have lucky patcher without busy box and cannot have BusyBox without root and cannot use lucky patcher without root.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _Frostplexx_:
You can use Lucky Patxher without root. It kust has limited functionality and it generates an apk file of the app you modified, that you have to install.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sinjz:
Could someone explain why the root method for the Amazon Fire 10 with Fire OS 5.6.0.0 won't work on the Fire 8 with Fire OS 5.6.0.0? Isn't it the same OS?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Different kernels.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twpguy:
B.S.

It's cheap because Amazon knew it's flaws. Tablet is junk to be honest