[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ceevee369:
@ gogol

I think you misjudge my post. (though did YOU went to a store to hand out flyers boycotting HTC purchaes? i did, which means that I am as pissed and disapointed as you and lot's of us here.)

Read my SEP 25 Review posted on CNET first (I gave it a 7/10 already at that moment for unstable Media support which was the 3rd review and untill now the lowest average score)

My second review on Nov 11 confirmed thousands of others.

Yes, I posted reviews on Expansys, some Belgian PDA websites and so on to warn consumers. i did not need to feel part of a rbellion.

SEP review (and again, I purchase around 10-15 PDA 7 othe mob's per year for prof. purpose, so my opinion is fair in comparisons)

QUOTE Comparing my new Tytn II vs my old 838Pro. Not as much impressed indeed.

Sep 25, 2007

Rating: 7 out of 10 (Very good)

Pros: Tilted Screen - Built in GPS - Ram & Rom - 4Gb SdHc compliant -3MP Camera

Cons:

Unstable CPU for Media - GPS not quick- pricy

Opinion:

The Good:

It has more Tech factor than an Iphone. Plenty of communication and data-streaming possibilities

Tilted screen making it easy to use on a table to watch movies, consult internet.

Supports 4Gb SdHC cards (6Gb not tested yet) making it a mature MP3 Player

Buttons are well combined an placed (better than for all the previous Tytn I variants)

The 3megapixel Auto Focus camera is performing much better than his previous 2MP brother on the 838Pro. ( I emphasize that not having a flashlight is no minus. The flashlight on the 838Pro was only good enough to find car-key slot)

Windows Media player has no more issue with high amount of storage. Makes now a difference between library on-board or on storage and works perfect now.

The new Java installer JBlend works perfect. A test with 9 Midlets running at the same time, draining the ROM from 60 to 5Mb was no issue for the Tytn II. Remained stable for other applications and gave warning that no ROM was available (in stead of freezing like the 838Pro did)

Though bulky, I find it still stylish and modern. Personal I guess.

The bad

Built-in GPS receiver under performs. Slow and lesser accurate than 2 other external tested devices

New QUALCOMM CPU (vs. Samsung in my previous 838Pro) seems not working well for Windows media Player.

Tested 1 movie extract from 300 Mb in 30 fps resolution on both devices and had perfect image on the old 838Pro while the Tytn II gave a chunky –non fluid image even with more ROM and same settings . To investigate HTC?

The Stylus pen could have been extractable than the toothpick provided with it (take the example from the Samsung i718)

A detail, but the upper black shiny part feels cheap and can get scratched when wearing a ring.

Could have chosen a better Quality material Mr. HTC designer.

A 3.5 mm output for headphones would have been a +1 point in this review. (but USB to mini-jack converters are on the market now)

Yes, it is heavy and bulky, but this is not a phone for the standard average user. Either you use it for business (but honestly, how many of us dare to say they have spreadsheets inside, or power points presentations), Either it will be used as a top notch Toy Phone.

The price might be a barrier.

HTC Public Relations towards consumers are suitable for improvements. (Taiwan HQ)

The Bottom line.

If you have a TyTn I, Trio, 838Pro or other similar versions, and might consider upgrading, I would say no, don’t do and wait longer for better. I needed change my 838 due to a HW issue, but I was certainly as happy with the old version than with the new one.

Simply because I could not find any thrills on the Tytn II to say ‘WOW” ….

NOV 30 correction:

QUOTE Underperforming video driver makes this device "considerable"

Nov 30, 2007

Rating: 5 out of 10 (Average)

Pros: All I mentionned in my Sep review - see page 1

Cons: The lack of HTC to find a solution on the underperforming driver part

Opinion:I thought i was the only one finding the Tytn II lagging behind my TytnI (or other Wm6 based PDA phones)

Seems almost 1.900 other users share the same concern on an on-line petition asking HTC to upgrade the video drivers. (link on request)

Playing movies or clips on the Tytn II is a burden. Even with 3rd party software FPS rate is very slow.

Reason behind is that the Qualcom CPU (though 400mhz) is not optimal and HTC neither Qualcom seem to come up with a solution.

So, untill the manufacturers solve this issue making this device really TOP NOTCH, I would not reccomend it for media performance. A fair 5 is justified as score.

Having the GPS CPU on the same chipset will neither help the performance.