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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mr_yellow:
If you give PCM keyboard a chance, it actually works really really well... The layout is very customizable and the error correction works really well making it very thumb friendly.

You can also easily customize the keys to print numbers when holding down a key but I prefer the second layout for numbers.

and just use switchSIP tool to load the keyboard as the default keyboard.

I like it the beset cause it doesn't take up much screen space.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] superflysocal:
are you talking about PocketCM or wm6 default KB?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Azimuth21:
ah, poor Xue v.2, if s/he is actually still using HappyTappingKeyboard. i find that that keyboard is still wayyy too small. PCM Keyboard (pocketcm keyboard) has come out to be a near exact copy of the iPhone's keyboard, and i mean that in a 100% positive way. you have the ability to slide your finger around to find the right letter, you can hold down on certain buttons to reach more buttons (hard to explain. but easily recognizable), and it has a great autocorrection feature (add a bigger english dictionary, i'm using one that has 57,000 US words, from the pocketcm "phorums").

That's great for show, but for work, I use TouchPal. It is just amazing, check the website that was posted in this thread earlier.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Xue v.2:
My my... ahahaha, I'm not joking or anything, I just feel that happy tapping keyboard is best suited for me. As I don't use english very much - I'm asian btw- although my gf is a native english speaker who live abroad, it doesn't matter, so I don't need that dictionary, in fact, I was looking for a real simple SIP (memory management thing, hahaha).

Any way, I'll look into pocket CM keyboard...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chunga168:
PocketCM if you do type a lot of non-standard english... you can have skin it to make it so that symbols and numbers are easily accessible.

touchpal is absolutely awesome if you type normal english...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tonyrome6:
Touch Pal hands down.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] superflysocal:
tried touchpal but too many function in 1 key makes it too hard to get use to.

I didn't know about PocketCM customization, not bad. I was able to put a symbol pad with numbers onto the space bar. I will probably map a symbol pad to each letter with its corresponding capital letter so no need for shift key. Is there a way to customize what is displayed onto each key? For instance if I want to do a row of numbers but then have it mapped to a symbol as a symbol pad, I want display that symbol on the upper right hand corner of that key so I know what key it is. Basically, I trying to mimic default WM6 KB with gesture layout.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nothin:
eurokeyboard..

imo, of coz.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kin0kin:
PCM Keyboard is very customizable, but the time bomb is a deal breaker.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] diomark:
I'm alternating between touchpal and pcmkeyboard - pcmkeyboard is awesome w/ the big english dictionary (the default dictionary sucks...) - and with one of the larger skins...

Touchpal is better for quick sms's where a typo here or there doesn't really matter...

-mark
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jychan28:
I just preferred the standard WM6 keyboard after trying out many. I even pay for Touchpal for the smaller key pads. But it is always in the middle of typing something happens that really slows things down. For example, you are sending your friend a password, when you get to the password part you have to take it out of the predictive word mode and enter the letter mode. When it get to the "." you have to enter a backspace first. When enter a person's name you have to think how to make sure it capitalize the first letter. All in all, I have been practice Touchpal but still couldn't get the hang of it. I leave it to the younger people.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] superflysocal:
exactly. I don't like SIP that depends too much on predictive text to make it work efficiently. there are too many times where you have to do something manually and it screws things up.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mr_yellow:
I've been looking for a large english dictionary for PCMKeyboard. Do you have a link I can d/l it from?

Thanks,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rckymtnrfc:
I've tried every SIP I've found out there and the one that I find easiest to type on is Zoomboard.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Martinhdk:
Have you tried HTC Phonepad??

I have used it a long time and find i quite good :)

All the common languages are supported with t9 so its just to install and use.

Sry - have no screendumps - but give it a try.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Martinhdk:
REQUEST

Could any with a good graphic hand change the layout of the edited HTC Phonepad from this thread to graphics that are more like the rest of the HTC style - buttons like dialer.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=312235&highlight=phonepad+vibrate
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Azimuth21:
Martin, have you tried the HTC Keypad/Keyboard that was extracted from the HTC Touch Dual? it has a phonepad style layout (switchable with a qwerty layout), and it has that HTC Skin that you speak of.

i don't know the policy on this but rckymtnrfc is smelling like a plant... only one post ever, and it's to "advertise" for a Vito product, with perfect grammar, punctuation, and a cleanly embedded photo (an official photo from Vito) in his post?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MTM:
Try have a look at this one: http://mobildebat.dk/showthread.php?t=105584 (the Touch-style one)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MaxMotus:
I Have tried a few different sips and the I have skinned the standard keyboard with a cab i downloaded from here called "SJ KeybSkin_Touch" basically skins it black / grey.

I liked TouchPal but found it slowed my typing down too much and took up alot of real estate.

Since then I am using iphone skin on PocketCM but with my own modified layout which allows me to basically stay on main page for numbers symbols and caps etc. Loving it!

Happy to post the skin cab and PocketCM files if anyone interested.

MM
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Section9:
I have tried PCM Keyboard, Tengo, ZoomBoard, Resco, default keyboards and Letter recognizer (both WM6) and lastly ,TouchPal.

I like Tengo if you are like me, using predictive text. You are really more likely to type faster as there are only 6 keys for QWERTY. But however, it has it's own shortcomings.

If you wanna input 'custom' text, it's either you switch to the Tengo Keyboard or you start 'striking-out' the letters one by one.

And one fudemental flaw is that you will need to use a stylus Or your fingernails.

Though they have Tengo Thumb, but it's still not easy to put in your own custom text.

For those standard Full QWERTY keyboards, there are simply too many buttons crammed into one place like ZoomBoard. Though the plus side is the letter pressed will be enlarged in the preview bubble, but yet again, too complicated and your thumb will be doing alot of 'travelling' on the keyboard.

TouchPal is a balance between QWERTY with lesser buttons, and also allows you to input custom text as you want it and when you want it. Most important of all, it is useful for inputing text single handedly.

I have tested all above software with at least 3 days before moving on to the next. But TouchPal has lasted for 5 days and it's still going on strong .... :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] superflysocal:
Yes, please post your cab and layout, I have basically done the same now but wanted to see how you did yours. Also, want to see how that skin looks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Martinhdk:
Can you upload it as the forum admin is not coming back with login info..

Takker ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ahc2008:
superflysocal or section9 -

could one of you post some screenshots of your keyboard?

I would love to see how it looks. Thanks alot..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ahc2008:
You can easily download from there?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Martinhdk:
yeah - found it. Looks very good
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ahc2008:
yeah its pretty nice ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Azimuth21:
@frenchglen

amen, my brother, amen.

i think the problem that people are having with touchpal is that they have no idea of its predictive text ability. i'm saddened by the huge number of reviews that think you have to tap and slide for every single letter. no!!! tapping and sliding just makes it easier to get to a specific letter. it's like SureType, but better, because with SureType you can't slide to choose a specific letter, since it's all one button. you have to really read the manual that comes with TouchPal, because i really do feel touchpal is the best SIP out there right now.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gfxMaven:
Nothing can match Tengo Thumb or Tengo Keyboard for speed and ease of use. Easy on the eyes too.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Section9:
just to add on to his comments and mine on touchpal

You can add the custom words 'quietly' into the dictionary without the system ever prompting you again.

If you go 'professional', your keyboard is re-sizeable too. have fun
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zephxiii:
Phonepad works awesome, excellent prediction, better than Itap on my v3xx, and Xt9 imo. As good as Nokia's T9. Also like the keypad, its proportional, unlike the HTC touch one.

Other than that, I use PocketCM Keyboard which rocks....minus the timebomb.....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cobra2:
Hay all

I've been trien some SIP around, and been hoocked by ZoomBoard, but suddenly after a couple of hours, it wont make a space between the words ( The spacebar bliks but nothin happens)?? I've tried 2 uninstall/install but it wont help, any 1 have an ide or same prob ??

Tried allso both ver. 1.0 and 1.2, same prob :o
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Section9:
That was one of the 'bugs' I faced when using ZBoard, you can try to select other SIPs and press the spacebar, then select Zboard back. It should work fine again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cobra2:
Hay Section9

Thanx for ur answer, have tried that, but nothin :p still not able to make a space :o
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ww2250:
me too. i often spend more time to think about their intelligent feature before actually typing. that slow things down. so now i am getting back to the standard kb w/large keys. don't get me wrong, touch pal is an exceptionally fine product. but i need ctrl key for terminal prg and use special symbols as well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bodhi3:
Another vote for TouchPal... It really rocks!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MaxMotus:
OK guys, heres the Standard Keyboard skin that was asked for plus Pocket CM keyboard Skin and layout.

Have fun!

MM

PS Check out more skins and icons on my video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNtHCOpZlQ
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] l8deblu:
Skins for TouchPal

I downloaded the trial version of TouchPal V2 and love it. I was trying to choose between it and Tengo but I like the bigger screen of TouchPal, though it takes up more room on the screen, it's easier to see the letters and for me to type cuz I have large hands. Anyway, I am wondering if anyone knows of any skins to pretty up the TouchPal interface. I've searched the internet and can't find any but if anyone knows, it's you guys!

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frenchglen:
I did a search of their forums and it's one of those feature requests they're "prioritising". I have no idea if it's possible to manually do it with some simple "hacking" or anything. Not very knowledgeable in that.

What I liked about it straight away, is that it looked like a normal keyboard. Some of those funny other predictive thumb-friendly SIPs just look plain WEIRD. I liked HTC Phone Pad because I was used to a T9 keypad on my nokia for years, but this is now just the best SIP I've ever seen. By the way you can resize the keyboard by sliding the Help/Option key up and down!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tandy279:
TouchPal wins hands down! it combines the best features of three other SIPs that I liked: Tengo, PocketCM Keyboard, and MessagEase. There're a few improvements it should have, but even as it is it's fantastic. After some practice I could easily imagine reaching a speed of 300 characters per minute (about 60 words per minute in the traditional measure of typing speed)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Section9:
Hi l8deblu,

I would suggets you to use TouchPal more to determine if it's the right SIP for you :)

The Professional version allows you to resize the keypad too :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Maggy:
I tried all the available SIPs I could find, got stuck to PCMkeyboard for several months but there were two "features" that made me decide to leave it:

-the correction mode only watches the exact number of keys pressed, no prediction of longer words

-the regular popup that the beta expired always comes in the middle of nowhere with no possibility to download the new version.

Then I discovered Touchpal. Just like some of you at first I didn't like it. But soon found out that it's fully worth the learning curve as well as the registration fee for the Pro version. Using the prediction mode allows me to type even faster than on my PC keyboard.

On other similar product you have to click-and-slide to get the right key. As long as you're typing no capitals or punctuation/accents, all you have to do on Touchpal is click.

clickclickclickclickclick, 5 key presses to type most long words (5th click to select it from the list or to press space to select it), often even 4 clicks, for example

[a/s] [c/v] [j/k] space spells acknowledge

[a/s] [c/v] [q/w] space spells acquire

Yes, there are some minor issues like where automatic space insertion should/shouldn't be active. I believe the programmers have a good ear for it and will solve it soon enough. But even without the requested features it's fabulous.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frenchglen:
Hey Maggy,

That was me who wrote that reeeeeealy long feature suggestion post. thanks for your support ;)

With enough people wanting the same features, they'll add them in.

what partly convinced me to buy this was seeing a forum response by the moderator to another person's request. Amazing! Saying that it was a good idea, they agree and that they'll implement it, SOON!

They're people worth supporting, and whoever designed it is/are geniuses.

About your idea of sliding the arrow button to move cursor: seemed brilliant at first but then I realised that you need to be able to tap it repeatedly - swiping in one direction repeatedly is tiring and not fast enough.

but, if you had an overlay of four arrows, imagine sliding them in different ways to do different things. like going back/forward whole words, paragraphs, home/end. They should develop the whole sliding thing even further!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JohnBiggs:
I too have been alternating between TouchPal and PCMkeyboard - however I have settled on PCMkeyboard now.

Can you tell me where you got this bigger English dictionary - I agree the default one is a bit limited...

--John
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xda-addict:
Interesting, but that's not even close to the new Fingertouch PRO that I'm currently using.

So why should you use that, when FingertouchPRO is the best keyboard available?

You can use FTPRO in English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian or even Greek, and you can also define your own languages. For all these, it also supports an innovative fT9 technology, that makes possible typing with only 1 finger!

Not to mention the other tons of settings and features. I've added the CAB here, for direct download, but better check the webpage at www.fingertouchpro.com

Cheers!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xda-addict:
Here is a snapshot and the CAB!

And here is the CAB

For more info, visit www.fingertouchpro.com
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xda-addict:
Hm, wait until you try FTPRO, see the video tuts on the website first: www.fingertouchpro.com

This typing speed is unbeatable and you can also configure it with the tons of features that it has , myself I wasn't able yet to try them all.

Hope this helps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] windowsmob6:
hi forum!

Hi, I'm new. I need a keyboard.

What should I use?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ytsejam_:
why not just read the whole thread.. it's just 6 pages anyway..

then weigh their opinions, compare it to your preferences and needs. and decide for yourself..

or better off, do a search (click the search function on the top part of the site - write a keywoard e.g. "keyboard"), and you'll see tonnes of threads related to keyboard products, skinning etc.. see for yourself (most threads have feature lists and snapshots, demonstrating keyboard), in the end, it will still come down to user preference anyway.

good luck..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thehelios:
I will ONLY use Touchpal. I purposely tell people I can type faster than them no matter what phone input they're using and had an iPhone guy try to race me with his "world-first and best" keyboard. Yeah, destroyed him to.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ytsejam_:
only if you type purely in english.. don't work with other languages and shorthands though..

but still, if it's your preference.. and you proved that you really are adept using Touchpal (by pawning the iphone dude), then that's good.. everyone can be good at anything if he really likes it..

but don't expect others to have similar success and likeness to the said product since each have their own preference..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mytat3:
Anyone try the Samsung input panel. I think it is the best sip I have found so far. I am now stick with it.

It is ver 2.0
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theme freak:
Resco Keyboard Pro is the best for me :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frenchglen:
Not exactly sure what you mean there. If you mean that you can't type lightning fast with languages other than English, then you're just plain wrong.

Are you saying that you have trouble with TouchPal? Cause I haven't heard anyone else say that. The learning curve on the TouchPal keyboard (if we're talking the default T+ interface) is hardly anything. Certainly less than the iPhone, which Apple

themselves

says takes a week to learn and requires you to tap over the top of these tiny keys and hope for the best and just trust in the typing correction - um, no thanks...with TouchPal it's just a matter of learning the few basic functions (how to swipe for the letters and symbols), and then learning all the cool shortcuts and features which are not required for basic typing, but collectively make it an incredibly full-featured and fast SIP.

+ the other great thing about TouchPal is that it has many different interface options - the default T+ one, a single-letter one like iPhone/HTC's latest keyboard, and a T9 one. In other words, it covers every other standard SIP layout and adds pretty much every other feature you'd want. And if there's something missing, go to the forum, suggest the feature, the devleoper will be like "yeah, that's a good idea!" and chances are it will be included in the next update (which is about once every few months)! MANY features that I've requested have been included. It just gets better and better.

Someone tell me another SIP that can do all this, and that's as fast (and fun) to type. :rolleyes: Anyway, I won't continue to ramble, and yes as always it is personal preference, but seriously TouchPal is the king of WinMo SIPs.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jez83uk:
I'm going to stick with block recognizer. I find I can use it extremely quickly and accurately with a stylus, and fairly well with a fingernail. It doesn't need two hands to use it, and can very easily do capitals, numbers, punctiation, and most symbols. It only uses a small amount of screen real estate, and doesn't require to rotate the screen.

I find it much better than letter recognizer, but it did take a few days to get used to a few of the letters.

Unfortunately I now find when i'm handwriting, I keep doing little things like writing 7 instead of t. The only thing I wish it did have is copy and paste functions built in.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jholton:
Never tried this but have wanted to - is this available on non-Samsung devices?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yaron316:
i second that :)

can anyone provide a link?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] johnchan78:
I've read all 7 pages... in conclusion...

1) Touchpal

2) CMKeyboard

3) Resco or the standard in-built keyboard

For those who bought the Touchpal PAID version (resizable, and supposed to have better predictive text capabilities and so forth) is it worth it?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ebarten:
TouchPal keyboard

Hi Guys,

I couldn't agree more with: johnchan78.

I tried all the three mentioned. TouchPal is by far the best one.

There isn't even any competition.

Though the user interface is a bit different than that of the iphone (the closest one is: PCMKeyboard) it still is very professionally designed. The MMI (Man Machine Interface) here is exceptional. The fact that the buttons are now bigger makes the typing an ease of breeze.

Yes it does cost a bit. But guys, worth any peny of it (and no - I don't get any cuts in the profits) and I wouldn't replace it with that of the iphone even if such keyboard was to exist.

Once you check the option for word prediction and auto complition - really - no compatition.

Anyway - just my honest opinion. The reason it sounds a bit like a selling speech is because of the frastration I had finding one that works for me.

And this one - is just does...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bobzero:
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but Shapewriter is really fast after just a little practise.

It's different than traditional SIPs in that you don't tap, you drag between letters and it predicts what the word is (quite accurately).

http://www.shapewriter.com/
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ghostrid3r:
+1 for shapewriter (sprint vogue) ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] orb3000:
PocketCM with Diamond skin!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lennie:
+1 for TouchPal

I also have shapewriter installed but I have a big screen so it doesn't really work for me, it's made more for 1 handed use.

TouchPal is for 1 handed, 2 handed, even 3 handed use :D

I really love this app, it has became one of my core apps which is the first ones I install and never remove. the apps I use the most. I've been using it for over a year now, it's a great app.