yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Ok you first need to power off the device. Hold the power button down until the white amazon logo disappears and keep holding it down for at least 20 seconds after it disappears. You will need to open the back of the tablet and you will need to remove or cut the first metal plate to expose the EMMC. go here and you will need to get the tablet into boot rom mode by shorting the point. When you get there, unplug the battery. Run ./bootrom-step-minimal.sh At this link, you will need to edit main.py so you can run ./bootrom-step-minimal.sh. When it says 'all good (or something very similar), plug the battery in and hit enter. You need to be very careful when doing this step as to not disturb the connection to the PC. If you don't have enough battery power, when the script asks you to boot to hacked fastboot, your device may die. Just plug it into an outlet and it should boot to twrp when it has enough power. If not, power it off and manually boot to recovery.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ujhyuihiu:
How do I set a different TTS? I can install google tts, but I can't change the system default. Also to anyone who owns the latest fire hd 8 2018 model, does it use the new tts voices from amazon polly?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
download activity launcher from the Play store and use that to launch Google TTS.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ujhyuihiu:
Would that be able to change it as the system default?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Yes. https://github.com/DerekZiemba/RootActivityLauncher/releases/tag/V2.0 download it with root. You can tap settings and then tap voice input or text to speech or tap on the googletts activity and tap voice data.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HunterZ0:
Anyone know why my non-rooted HD10's screen likes to turn on to show special offers when it's been sitting on a table undisturbed for hours? It's creepy and drains the battery.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
Mine does that, too, but the special offers don't show up, as I had them disabled. It's just my regular lock screen. Really tilts me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ujhyuihiu:
Wow I never knew that. Thank you very much! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mpsantiago:
I'm about to buy a Fire HD 8 or 10, but first I'm hoping someone here can definitively answer these questions- my google-fu has failed me:

1) What version of Fire OS is the latest available for the HD 10... is it stuck at 5.6.x or has it received a 6.x update?

2) Does FireOS 6.x (based on Android 7.1) actually do split screen?

I need split screen, so this will affect my purchase decision. TIA
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
1. Fire 10 is at 5.6.X.X so far. Can be downgraded with modified firmware.

2. Nougat not yet available for HD 10.

3. Several people are working on ROMs for several of the tablets. This is going to take some time so be patient. I am one of those people and we are working as hard as we can.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mpsantiago:
Thanks- will the HD 8 do split screen (since it's on Nougat)?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Depends on Amazons code. I don't own one so I can't say, but I did look at the firmware and nothing stood out.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mpsantiago:
Thanks- hopefully someone with an HD 8 can chime in.

From past experience I know that Amazon will nerf Android to fit their needs... I want to make sure they didn't kill split screening before I buy it ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apersonintheworld:
So are you saying in the future Fire OS 6 will be on the FIRE HE 10?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roger W:
Hi, I'm trying to install Audible from the Google Play Store on my rooted HD8 2017.

I've uninstalled the built-in (kindle-specific) Audible app by every means I can think of, but the normal version still fails to install; logcat says:

W/PackageManager: Package couldn't be installed in /data/app/com.audible.application-1
com.android.server.pm.PackageManagerException: Can't install because provider name com.audible.mobile.stats.persistence.provider (in package com.audible.application) is already used by com.audible.application.kindle

How can I fully uninstall/unregister com.audible.application.kindle so that the normal one can install? I know it's possible, because on an identical device, I managed to do it. I don't know what's different.

I've removed the old through "pm uninstall", through TitaniumBackup, by deleting its files directly; I've tried installing the new from Play Store, from the APK file, and from "adb install -r"; no luck. I've messed things up so much trying this that I had to open my device and hardware root just to unbrick :) The time investment has been more than the benefit, but I not just want to learn what's going on.

(The normal Audible app lets you switch accounts and log in with any Amazon account. The bundled one is tied to the device-registered account)

Any advice? thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
Amazon apps from any source other than the Amazon App Store will fail to install. It's just something we'll have to figure out.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joeldf:
I have the HD8 8th gen, and I've seen nothing related to split screen on it.

I'm not sure the processor could handle 2 on-screen apps at once. Has a hard enough time with one. Sometimes I'm just browsing a site and Silk will just close on me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roger W:
Frustratingly, it is possible because I did it on my identical device a few months ago when the software root was new. But now that I'm in front of the other device to root it, I can't reconstruct the sequence of uninstalls and disables that made the first one work.

But don't give up hope - it doesn't take any tech beyond what we've already been shown on these threads.

I suppose if I could find an easy way of scripting a diff between the system apps on the two devices, I could make the new one look like the old and try that. Any suggestions on generating a simple list?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFSP G35:
The 10" ONN tablet from Walmart does split screen, and it's Android Pie... And it's a lot more probable to see it unlocked soon ;)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roger W:
Update - I got the normal one to install by removing bundled junk using an old pre-bloat version of ES File Explorer with its feature of removing system apps. But the normal one crashes on launch due to some missing accounts thing. I must have removed something on the 2nd Fire that I didn't on the 1st where Audible works fine.

I'm going to stop messing with this now and find an alternative app for my purposes.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Consider an Onn 8" from Walmart. Similar to HD 8 but with a better screen, more memory and a clean/current Android 9 build. No FireOS, registering with Amazon or waiting for custom ROMs that may never materialize. Handles split and 'floating' screens with ease. Downsides include lousy audio and few (if any) aftermarket cases. Unlockable/rootable (for those who care). $64 USD.

10" varient is not as compelling due to lower quality/ppi panel. Otherwise identical to 8".
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apersonintheworld:
Will Fire OS 6 come to the 2017 fire tablets?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joeldf:
If the remaining HD 8 and 10 come out within the 2019 line later in the year (I'm guessing, September), and there's no Fire OS 6 for the 2017 models by then, then I guess not.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jiub13:
unresponsive touch screen

I have a fire hd 10" 7th gen device.

I messed with my partition tables using linux's parted program, and seriously messed up my partition table. I was able to repair my tablet partly by using the short trick, with ubuntu and ./ bootrom-step.sh. However now touchscreen is not working at all in twrp or in fire os. I tried sideloading lineage os, everything boots fine and works with otg cable and mouse, but touchscreen doesnt work. I tried rebooting into twrp and using mouse and otg to wipe dalvik, and cache but it's still not working. Any ideas?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
Make sure the cables are secure, but be careful the plastic clips are very fragile and break easily. Try lightly pressing on the connection of the board with the LCD cable to see if you get a reaction on the screen, no matter how small. If it works, you can take a small piece of electrical tape and attach one end to the flap on the cable and tape it from there to the board. It not only helps to gently secure the cable on weak clips, it can make the connection like new. A little goes a long way though.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
This is a new one for me. I don't know when it started, but I can't install any apps through file managers or web browsers. I've tried several of each and all return the same error: 'parse error.' I attached ascreen shot. As of the moment my only option is to adb install or sideload, or make every app I install now a system app unless it's available in the play store.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
Are these downloaded straight to the device or copied over from your PC?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
All of them were either downloaded from browser, copied from device to storage, or were on an external sdcard. The card isn't corrupt as it works fine on other devices and the apks don't parse error. To be honest I think a general reset will fix it (just a data wipe.) I know it can be restored, but at this point that would be useless because if the problem lies in data, restoring it would just bring the problem back again. On another note I tried to do a partition fix in TWRP and it failed on data it could not fix the partition it says. also I have not yet tried a reinstall of the package installer yet. I believe though it's probably in data and something left over from Netguard Firewall. It's possible it could very well even be a host file it left behind. However I don't know what those files are called or where they would be kept. I do know it does not overwrite the stock hosts file so it wouldn't be in there.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarraghMUFC:
Hey guys, I hope this hasn't been asked a million times but I was wondering if this method of rooting the fire 10 with TWRP and Magisk is the best: https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-10-2017-suez-t3913639 also I was wondering if this HD8 tut would work with my HD10 https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-root-hd82018-via-magisk-t3906554

I have already rooted my tablet using a method involving ADB and Kingoroot(which gave me SuperSU) that I found here on XDA but I miss having a custom recovery like I have on my phone, same can be said for Magisk Manager. I want to know if you guys would recommend the above method linked. Admittedly I don't have a Linux but is it true I could install Linux on a USB and use it on Windows PC? Any advice would be massively appreciated! I know there isn't much difference between Magisk and SuperSU but if it can be done I wouldn't hesitate to reset my tablet and re root.

My Fire OS is 5.6.1.0 FYI. Sorry for the long post!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyInDogSuit:
The first one is the one you'd want to follow. Make sure to read it the instructions at least twice before beginning. The second one is not for the HD 10 2017, but for the HD 8 2018. Two completely different beasts.

I definitely recommend unlocking the tablet. It WILL wipe your device, and it WILL modify the GPT tables. I don't believe there's any FireOS version that it won't work on, so far. The newest firmware (5.6.40) requires a downgrade to unlock, but I don't think you'll need to go that far with 5.6.10. That being said, once done, you can flash TWRP, then flash Magisk via said recovery, as you already know. There's a rooted, deodexed stock ROM if you want to stick to FireOS. Not to mention there's also a LineageOS build for the HD 10, which is quite stable, though has some bugs. Definitely an improvement over FireOS, though!

As for Linux, yes, you can create a persistent live USB drive with Linux, which is perfect for this process. I used LiLi (LiveLinux Creator) with Ubuntu, I think it was. I do have to mention that Linux may not detect and install WiFi adapters (if you use any), even onboard ones. I had to use my phone's hotspot to download and install the required dependencies, since I didn't have any way to run a wired connection to my router.

Create a Linux live system with persistent storage via a bootable USB. Scroll to "How to Make a Persistent Ubuntu USB Drive on Windows."

https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/

LineageOS 12.1: https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/rom-lineage-12-1-t3953677

Rooted, modified stock FireOS 5.6.40: https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/development/rom-t3929969

Read through the first posts of those before flashing, as well. The usual advice/warnings about voiding your warranty apply here, in the biggest way.

Good luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
5.6.1.0 is the one I've come back to time and time again. Too much changes beyond that and I even question the legitimacy of some of the applications that can't be launched without an activity launcher and or root.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarraghMUFC:
I really appreciate you taking the time to write all of that. I hate to burden you further but I seem to be having some trouble.It has to do with mtk-su which im using to give myself temporary root access for the process I originally linked(https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-10-2017-suez-t3913639) I nearly forgot to mention I unrooted SuperSU as even when i tried to run

sudo ./step-1.sh

while having root I came into an error

I have already made a post in the relevant post which is here https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/experimental-software-root-hd-8-hd-10-t3904595/post80025327 any chance you know anything about the error I'm getting? if not it's no problem as I'm sure a friendly XDA member is sure to weigh in.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kyusaku:
I bought the Fire HD 8 with 5.4.0.0 a couple years ago and used savvytechwinner's tool to get Google Play and Services on my tablet and remove almost everything except Amazon App Store/Kindle/Prime Video.(blocked OTA so still 5.4.0.0) I'd like to update for security and support reasons, but what's the best upgrade path where I can keep the Play Store/Services?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joeldf:
Any of them, really. The OS updates don't mess with the Play Store/Services once it's installed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kyusaku:
Great thanks, except I'm not sure how to update the device since I used the tool to remove OTA, and every time I go to System Updates the Settings screen crashes.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Download update from amazon

Make sure you get correct firmware for model

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202144610

Reboot to recovery

Install update.

https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/unbrick-amazon-fire-hd-8-10-t3240034
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBigK300:
Hi, I'm wanting to know it there are any fully working custom ROM's for the 2018 Fire HD 8?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joeldf:
Look around these forums. I've never disabled any Amazon services, but others have and re-enabled them. Plus, there may be ways to directly update after downloading the OS from Amazon, which they do offer. Might have to boot to recovery for options to update the OS from a downloaded file.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kyusaku:
Thanks, the tool I used that I referenced in my original post actually does an adb uninstall command. So I'm guessing it removes them completely.

adb\adb.exe uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.settings.systemupdates
adb\adb.exe uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
adb\adb.exe uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota

I might have to download the update and go into recovery as sd_shadow originally suggested. (I suppose I could just factory reset and let it update itself too) Any benefit to updating via Recovery?

I'm guessing as of 5.6.4.0 Play Store/Services still isn't blocked as thread's OP suggests?

From here: https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603

And then disable apps via facebookshare workaround?

From here: https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/a-t3820744

(sorry for all the questions I don't really keep up with the development, and so many threads with mixed generations and sometimes things are so specific like 7th Gen can be rooted/unlocked, but only if it's an HD10)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
adb\adb.exe uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.settings.systemupdates
adb\adb.exe uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
adb\adb.exe uninstall -k --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota

Does not uninstall (remove) despite the inference; simply disables with no easy reversal path.

Best option is to follow [MENTION=4267571]sd_shadow[/MENTION]'s guidance, reinstall FireOS and redo any desired customization vs trying to disassemble/reassemble Humpty Dumpty with limited recollection on what was done in the past. Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxaphexx:
Is there any way to stop/block the ota updates?

Just got a new hd10 and installed the play store. One update is in the queue right now.

I'm going to root and switch to Lineage when it's more stable. (Fortunately, wired headphone's aren't supported for now)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Yes, but you'll need to root first to be fully effective. Same simple technique has worked on every version of FireOS dating back to v3 (2012 timeframe):

Rename: DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk

Lots of kludgy alternatives posted by hopeful souls. Use those at your own risk. Most are unreliable at best.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jsmith1140974:
HD 10

Hello,

I am considering buying an HD 10 to use predominately as a comic reader. Do you think it is beneficial to root/etc the HD 10 for such a use or is stock good enough? If I should root, which guide would be best to use (I am a little overwhelmed)?

Thank you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
For your stated intentions I would skip Amazon devices in favor of Onn alternatives (available through WalMart) which are highly usable out-of-the-box and provide native access to the Play Store as a bonus. You may find the apps available for reading comics on FireOS via Amazon's app Store are less than satisfactory.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ferralis:
does anyone by chance have newest firmware for the fire HD 8 version 5.6.4.0 (7th gen) ?

the link on the amazon website is broken :/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lam3a:
During my root attempt, it seems that I've messed up the 2nd profile on my Kindle 8 2017, the tablet reboots shortly after switching to that profile.

Does anyone know how I can copy the files from this profile without actually switching to it? I can use the main profile without problems, ADB, mtk-su, ... but I don't know where the 2nd profile's files actually are.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freakgunner1:
Any idea on how to downgrade my Amazon fire hd 8 tablet? the latest update seemed to have broken my tablet, including the 49 years error I been getting: https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/help/problems-happening-using-toolbox-t3963750

as well as not being able to remove ads etc anymore. What should I do from now on?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joeldf:
Have you tried the 40-sec reboot?

Hold the power button down for at least 40 seconds - the thing will turn off after about 15 to 20 seconds. Let go after 40 seconds, then press the power button to turn it back on. Let it boot up, and see how things are.

I haven't experienced the 49 year thing. Do you see that for all notifications, or just some of them?

As for the ads. Did you buy the "Special Offers" version? Did you pay Amazon the 15 bucks it takes to remove ads for good? Have you tried just calling Customer Service and nicely asking if they would remove the ads?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freakgunner1:
Yep tried it. Still having the 49 years thing
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freakgunner1:
Is it possible to downgrade by downloading a older firmware and using Amazon recovery to flash it?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Depends. Current and target builds? If you are running the lastest FireOS build (that disabled mtk-su) rollback will likely yield a soft brick.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MDR55:
I'm having the same problem with the same Fire HD 10 (7th) with update 5.6.4.0. I can't see the Show Mode available on the drop down area. Not sure this is relevant but my S/N starts with a G0000 which seems to be an older (2015) Kindle series. As I said, the S/N info could be wrong or irrelevant. Did you ever find a resolution?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fchae:
I just bought Amazon Fire HD 10 (7th generation) and I would like to root in, but this Forums is kinda confusing for me. If someone can share the link for how to root it and install Magisk I would really appreciate it. Also, Is there any custom Roms for the Amazon Fire HD 10 that I can use that is 100% compatible?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davekaz:
We have root and twrp now . I'm on cm 12 rom. It's great. What fire os software you on
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fchae:
5.6.4.0.

is there other options for the rom that are available?

also, would you please share the link for the root (Magisk) and the twrp if you don't mind? i would like to root my device
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DragonFire1024:
HD 10 root and unlock https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-10-2017-suez-t3913639

CM 12 for HD 10 https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/rom-lineage-12-1-t3953677
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliga4221:
I just booted up my fire hd8 7th gen today for the first time in a while and im getting a "sign-in error for abcxyz@gmail.com"

When i click it it ask to authorize amazon to see my gmail, i go through the process and it verifies me then pops right back up.

I did a search on google and the forums here and didnt find anything, might be looking with the wrong questions.

Any idea what I need to do to fix this?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnallds:
[Q] is my Fire 10 unlocked ?

Could someone tell me how I can tell if my 7th Generation Kindle Fire HD 10 is unlocked ? I have adb access if I need...

Thank you !
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwiggLe:
Since this is the noob question thread. I'm on an HD 8 7th Gen and current OS update (5.6.4.0), do I have any options for root AND a custom Rom?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xev11:
Running 5.6.4 on HD8 2017. What's the best way to make it a simple android experience for an elderly person?