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[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aaren11:
I was excited for a possible long-term replacement for my V20 with a slide-out second screen. Call it gimmicky or unessacary, I thought the Joan was promising, if only for it's ability to have the keyboard on the secondary display. Now the release has confirmed there won't be a removable battery (which I would have traded for, at a pinch, the slide-out display and some degree of ease of repair) - a nonsensical glass body and not even the ticker display the V20 has? Why would I buy this? It's basically a S8. Bad show LG. The G6 looks like it was trying to one-up the S8 before it's release, and it failed to do so. Looks like LG's trying the same thing with the V30 and the Note 8. Well they've lost my interest.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dartinbout:
I am a huge fan of the V series from LG. If the V30 implements the full capabilities of the ESS DAC (native DSD playback rather then down converting it), I will make the T-Jump. The removal battery is very nice but QC 4.0 does offer some attractive benefits. https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2...five-minutes-charging-five-hours-battery-life
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bubba Fett:
Rooted v20 or stock v30. The future cloudy.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jayochs:
meh. the v30 doesn't look good. I'm gonna look at the next pixel probably.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] fr4nk1yn:
since xda and my v20 just ****ed up a long post I'll just say, "the v30 is probably the base for the pixel XL 2".
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BigMosley:
Agree 100%, a completely glass phone is a joke. Nothing more than another cash grab from the phone manufacturer's for you to break your phone easier. I always throw a thick OtterBox on my phone so I couldn't care less how "sexy" the phone looks.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] evo4g63t:
The issue for me is smart phones are peaking the advancements are slowing down so the appeal of keeping a phone longer is more desireable.

The first component to fail assuming there isn't a defect in your hardware is the battery. The capacity is all but guaranteed to be reduced after two years. Allowing battery replacements allows for the phone to last longer without breaking the bank.

If you're lucky you can send your phone in and get a battery replacement from the company but it's inconvenient and companies love to charge 80 to 100 to get it replaced and even then there are no guarantees that your data or phone won't get lost plus not having a phone for a week or longer isn't acceptable when you need your phone for business and emergencies.

Second reason, most important to me, is the ability to use extended batteries. I currently use an extended battery that no matter what I do on my phone I don't have to charge it during the day I usually end up at 40 to 50 percent at the end of the day, no factory phone can compete.

QC4 sounds good but the nature of the beast is heat kills batteries; qc4 flows even more juice at a time the heat will be higher and thus will have a negative effect on battery longevity.

Further I feel with the ridiculous price hikes Samsung and Apple plan/are on doing (LG thankfully has remained competitive in this field thus far) this behavior is even more unacceptable, I will not pay over 1000 for a phone where battery life deteriorates after 2 years.

Only way I'll go non removable is if the capacity is high enough to not require 2 charges per day (mid day and night), so probably around 4200 to 4600 mah.

I am keeping my v20 for another year so I'll see what's offered then but sadly removable batteries are a dying breed thanks to greed. Midrange phones generally have removable batteries still and I may just have to do that to keep this vital feature.

The only phones that have interested me were the v series and Note series; note 8 looks to be the most expensive phone for no reason at all and the v30 looks to rid the two of the three best features of the phone (2nd screen, removable battery)
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] mingkee:
I think I'd keep V20 as long as possible, and V20 can be the last LG phone for me.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] stanglifemike:
I loved the Note line, so what got me to leave it for the V20 was the removable battery and second display. I've really enjoyed everything about the v20, and I planned to buy the V30 and stick with LG. But, since LG decided to strip those desirable features from the V30, I see a Note 8 in my future
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
Not buying it
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Robert235:
That's awesome, love every upgrade of QC adds something mind blowing.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] sdlopez83:
Whike reason I bought this was for the removable battery, if not for that then I'd get note 8.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Robbzilla:
There's a reason I bought the V20. And that reason is the removable battery and SD Micro slot. Take those away and there's no reason for me to limit myself to LG.

OK, technically that's two reasons...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] measty:
The V20 was a wake up call and the last phone I'll spend serious money on. The phone market is flooded with cheap gimmicks and even when a phone aims itself towards a real purpose (the best phone DAC on the market in this example) the shoddy plastic everything (not literally don't tell me it's made out of aluminum. I know I own one) quality makes it far more worth it to just get a DAP. I've had to replace the headphone jack twice and the micro mount is already starting to show symptoms of failure. Four months to fall apart. My Fiio E18 took a year of near daily use, plugged-in in jeans pockets, thrown into my car, etc etc, that microUSB port has taken a ****in beating... A YEAR before I had to replace any ports.

A stagnant technology competing for the money of a population that doesn't care about quality. I'm almost at the point of going back to landline because I don't get eat trash just because it's the only thing around.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Fz'Rot:
Hope LG make the V series as it is, not going with G series direction. We'll see what V30 bring.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dumbquestion:
Without the removable battery I'd have to go with the (next) Pixel, Mi Max 2 (5300 non removable battery), Note 8 or the OnePlus 5- But... I just bought my V20 last week with 3 more batteries. I just upgraded my V10 to Nougat/rooted and my son is still rocking my old Note 3 (just ordered 3 new batteries). They all work great. With much of the evolution in flagships not necessary to get enormous improvements in enjoyment from these devices, as long as I can get and easily insert new batteries, we'll keep rockin'-on with these. We will wait for a new, removable battery phone. It will come. It will come...
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] @rbiter:
V30? Boooooooo!
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] Honest9:
I think LG V30 will be a huge success. What I have observed so far is LG gives everything possible to V series. G series is mostly for experiment purpose. This time around we got even huge upgrade as compare to previous year. Snapdragon 835 processor, bigger screen and the best of all oled display. Eagerly waiting for V30 ??
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] @rbiter:
And downgraded sealed battery.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] sobriquet506:
Exactly this, if the V30 ships without the important features from the V20

If LG drops the removable battery, then they've definitely lost me
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jameslapc2:
The V30 isn't looking very good for me so far. I might just get a One Plus at this point if they keep this stupid wave up.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] evo4g63t:
Since I've posted this the latest rumors are:

- floating bar as opposed to the second screen

- an industry leading camera (f/1.6 aperture, glass lens) which improves low light performance

To me that's a pretty small gain over the v20.

The snapdragon 835 may be the biggest gain but if you don't do all that much gaming there isn't much to get excited about here.

I really don't know where to go from here, Samsung makes bloated roms and the note price is going from ridiculous pricing to absurd. Not paying over a thousand for a phone that'll be useless in two years (non replaceable battery).
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] jcotterman:
And now hearing rumor of a second V30 device. Perhaps the V30+ but also rumored to NOT just be a larger screen but also additional features.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] RojasTKD:
I'll wait and see what the V30 actually has to offer before I decide. It would be several months after release before I'd even consider it anyway (can you say price drop, yeah no longer into paying high prices for devices... I'll be patient).

I lament the loss of the removable batter, but it's the way the industry is moving and there really aren't any alternatives that off that option any more outside of maybe some cheap Android phone, that aren't really an option.

No removable batter and no second screen I can reluctantly live with, But want the Hi-Fi DAC and microSD card storage.

What peeks my interest is the new camera with 1.6 aperture and new glass. If the camera can deliver that would be a big plus for more, as long as the auto mode is improved over the V20.

If it's true that they will finally move to AMOLED displays that would be a welcomed plus also. Adaptive display with HDR please!

Not big on glass backs, but it will live in a case of some sort anyway.

IR baster? Maybe not sadly, but though I like the option I don't really use it much.

If the Camera impresses and the HI-FI DAC still delivers it will be on my radar, if not... I'm in no hurry, as I;ve only had the V20 a couple of months anyway.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] lgkahn:
No removable battery is a non starter for me.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] nellatl:
V30 lazy dac or music improvement. Just install viper4android.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
As others have stated, no removable battery is a no go. I still have a LG G4 that runs great, but if it had a sealed battery I would have had to chunk it two times over by now.

-- Brian
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] idkwhothatis123:
If it supports 600mhz on Tmo, it's probably my next phone.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] schuertzi:
Hi there,

Is it out in the market already what size of battery is in build?

And will be a real dualsim available and not a hybrid simcard slot?

I enjoy the dualsim feature + the SD card slot at the same time so much at the V20.

Thx and take care

Schuertzi
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] eric.clay42:
What are my thoughts? No removable battery = no sale.

The V30 looks like it will be too similar to the other boring, fragile, sealed glass phones that seem to be all the rage right now. Without any standout features, LG's hardware track record (G4 bootloop, increasingly locked down devices) does nothing to recommend the V30 over their competitor's phones.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] evo4g63t:
I am really hating the cell phone market. Literally no removable Battery options anymore, glass body on every flagship? Samsung price gouging on the note 8 for what's essentially a s8 with a smaller battery, dual cameras for 930 bucks on a phone that'll last 2 years thanks to the non removable battery.

Sticking with the v20 for the foreseeable future.

Really disappointed with LG's decision to become a "me too" company. Going the water resistance fad, enclosed batteries, glass bodies just like every other f'n company
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] @rbiter:
Don't forget the curved edges. I'm kind of thinking about a note8 but not at $1000 f'in' dollars. But put a V30 on the other side of the scale with a swappable battery and the note8 goes flying who knows where. [emoji12]
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] rbird2:
No Removable Battery , No reason to stay with G

I have NO interest in ANY LG phones unless they have a removable battery. It's too bad that LG can not see that this one feature (that no one else offers) is what has been selling lots of smartphones for them.

Without a removable battery, LG is just another cell phone manufacture that does not listen to their customers wants and needs.

I can buy a Smartphone with a non-removable battery currently from all the other cell phone manufacturers, no reason now to stay with LG.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] BigMosley:
I've had my V20 for 6ish months after jumping around from the Note 7 mess and it's been my first LG phone coming from always having Samsung phones (since the HTC EVO) and this phone seems pretty low quality compared to Samsung. My V20 has crazy bad Bluetooth connectivity issues, the screen quality, brightness and camera quality is subpar compared to Samsung and the quality of this phone has left a bad taste in my mouth pertaining to LG phones. With that said, in 2 or so weeks I'm rolling with the Note8.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
It depends. I think water proofing and better coverage is very important for me. Glass back provides better network coverage and net connectivity. I have never used glass phone but I did encounter lot of issues with metal phone in regards to connectivity. In our country rainy season last for 4 months. It is nearly impossible to use phone without water proofing. Many times I am not able to make or attend important calls and send important messages cause water can destroy a phone. LG V30 gonna be the most successful phone made by LG IMHO. It checks all the right boxes as compare to LG G6 and V20. G6 is the most popular phone for a reason. LG V30 is improved version of G6.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] dgattenb:
if the v20 gets an update to 7.1.2 then i cant see much difference that will make me move... the V20 is very good so far , no issues here
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] prmbasheer:
The unique selling point of Vseries are secondary screen, removable battery and media enhancements. With V30, LG seems to have successfully removed two of the defining features, Second screen and removable battery. Without the secondary screen (Very useful if you know how to use it), V30 is just another phone now and certainly not going to sell well in my honest opinion.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] runningnak3d:
I can live without the second screen as long as they have an always on portion of the screen. Since it is OLED, the screen only draws power for the pixels that are lit. I am hoping LG sees the light and releases a version that isn't waterproof, and has a removable battery. Everything I have read this morning about the V30 sounds great, so I would love to get the phone, but I refuse to encourage "bad behavior" -- that being no replaceable battery. They are making a device that you are pretty much guaranteed to throw away after 2 years, and that is just unacceptable.

-- Brian
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] gsw5700:
Down to 75% battery capacity after 14 months on my HTC 10, which is great btw. V30 looks like every other phone and no removable battery means no deal. I've never had water damage on any phone, but, I've had to replace the battery on every phone I've had.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] wodurrah:
V30 Good and Bad

LG V30...looks pretty but it nixed everything that made it a power users phone...LG I know you need wide levels of success and not just sell to a niche market. But damn kid.

Things that are dope:

1. Water resistant, nice but I'm not a dummy

2. New 18:9 ratio that makes phone easier to hold with a 6" screen, cool

3. Still have quad dac headphone jack while everyone else is getting rid of them...amazing sound quality

4. Improved 4k video recording with 10 min limit and multiple microphones for audio behind and in front of camera

5. Biggest plus, will be first phone on T-Mobile to support the 600mhz band...what does that mean...ridiculous speeds for LTE and greater coverage everywhere...gotta love that. And I repeat it is the first, not Samsung, not iPhone, LG V30...

Stuff that sucks:

1. No more secondary screen, I loved that thing

2. Apps that slide in from the right, this is just like Samsung and is dumb

3. Got rid of the IR blaster, what kind of sick company would do that...best feature hands down on my LG V20 is the ability to change the channel on random TV's at diners and such.

4. And the biggest issue, they got rid of the removable battery so the phone would be water proof. Idiots. Mainstream sheep use Samsung devices, power users used LG because they had all the features a tech nerd could want, and you got rid of them so u could steal a half of a percent share of Samsung devices, why?

Rant done...and I'ma till getting that V30 it's hella sexy doe.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I have used phone like OnePlus 5, HTC 10 and LG V20. HTC 10 is the worst amongst all three. LG V20 is good feature wise. OnePlus 5 is the fastest phone. LG V30 defines perfection. Its kinda phone which hardly needs any improvement. After using OP5 I realized how good Amoled screen looks. HTC make the best LCD screen but I like the Amoled screen of OP5 even tho it is just 1080p versus the 1440p like HTC 10 with less ppi. LG V30 unique features are: Improved Quad DAC, 158 gm despite being 6 inch phone with small form factor which is amazing i always wanted to use big phone. That is why i got V20 but it is not that convenient to carry cause I have small hands. Now I can get a big phone without compromising on comfort level. 16Mp camera with Lowest apertures ever 1.6 that is unique combination in smartphone. Most company lower the MP. Secondary camera with 13mp also with lower aperture of 1.9 Wow! That video recording capabilities is also unique. I don't think so any existing or upcoming phone will have any such features atleast in 2017. As a tech enthusiastic i think LG V30 is the no 1 smartphone. It will rule 2017 for sure. It is a smartphone which will make other smartphone company work really hard to beat it. All in all LG V30 is a legendary Smartphone. It is significant upgrade over LG V20, G6 and any other company existing flagship phone. LG V30 is a phone made for masses not just few users. It got everything for everyone. I love it:svetius::laugh:
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] LASERWOLF452:
So i was hoping the v30 be good but as always soneone has to mess up. First lg phone i got was the lgg3. It is the best damn phone you can ever get. So i fell in love with it. Then the g4 came out. I loved how the camera is manual. Then the v10 came out. I got it and worked wonders with green screen with manual video. I saw the g5 and lg just riped me away from the g series plus i loved the vol buttons on the back as i love that mod to skip music comes in handy for them teens to skip music without taking their eyes off the road. But sucks they no longer have the vol buttons on the back the v20 came out and i figured i get it since my v10 is messed up but still works i love what the v20 can do but some parts suck as for the v30. Im leaning to a no. First i love the second display with lg (idk how the g5 and higher are) i dont have to be annoyed with that damn floating timer when trying to multi task. Idk how the v30 will do since im hearing it has no second screen. 2. What really no removable battery. Im glad they keeping the sd card and headphone jack but if it failed to have an sd card slot well im not sinking money into a iphone like phone cause if i wanted no sd card and headphone jack i would buy an iPhone in the first place

The v30 has a glass body. Oh thats nice. One drop and its ugly. Hey my phone looks like my screen after i droped ir. As for the display i dont care for the curved screen LG THE PAST CALLED. THEY WANT THEIR ROUND EDGE SCREENS BACK. I dont like the g5 for how it looks. The g6 looks like a Samsung knock off and the v30 idk i store is at the v20 till thwy get their head out of there a$$

I went with lg cause of the sd card the last phone i had before the g3 had no sd card and it sucked.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] @rbiter:
Supposedly the v30 screen looks to be first gen AMOLED stuff. It is still hard wrapping my head around non swappable batteries. Damn, look at the v30 it's like about 16 or screws to take apart. At least make it user friendly swappable. I don't really care about waterproofing because I don't take my phone to crap 99% of the time. But I can see the benefits. Why can't they let us have our cake and eat it too? I was so looking forward to UHS type micro SD cards, 128GB option phones, Android getting its UI smooth and the SOCs are getting fantastic now even for mid range phones. But nooo let's seal the battery. Gotta have that one feature that irks most people. I buy a phone once a year or so with the galaxy note4 being the one exception as my daily driver for 2 years but I did grab a couple of other phones during that period. I am kind of looking at the notes but it for $1000. It ain't that good. Really miss a stylus experience. It is always there for when you need more granular control. Oh well, it is still good times for smartphone users. The G6 and V30 even with shortcomings in features look to be sensible yet still sexy phones that have function with form. I'd still take an almost bezel less phone that ticks all the features like V30 or note8 and the phone was mostly battery at ½" thick or 1.27cm for the metric folks. Maybe we can get phone repair shops to mod/upgrade phones to be battery accessible like car enthusiasts do to get their car to more their customizable liking.

Sent from my LGV20 using yo Mama's unlocked bootloader.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] pbedard:
Its a nice phone but I'm getting the note 8
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] prmbasheer:
LG V30 is a pretty device with adequate bells and whistles. However it is no more qualified to be called a V series device. it is more like an improved G6. I am a V20 user and I will not be getting the V30 because it really is not a V series device anymore.

1) No second screen which I have gotten used to and very useful in my opinion. Unless you use it, you wouldn't know it's utility. Floating screen/bar is just a software addition and any phone can achieve it with an app. It certainly is not a replacement for the second screen.

2) No removable battery is another mistake. V20 with a removable battery gives me so much freedom and peace of mind. I quick charge it like crazy (With LG Charger and Other quick chargers) and never bothered about burning the battery down because I know I can buy a new battery and swap in a matter of two-three days when required.
[LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion] RojasTKD:
As much as lament the loss of the removable batter and some other features, I have to disagree with you. LG has been struggling to sell it phones, and they get discounted quickly. The masses are more enamored with aesthetics than useful functionality. They want waterproofing, cuz apparently they like to shower and swim with their phones.

They are giving the consumers what they want, even if some of use don't like it, and I can't blame them. It's unsustainable to make these great devices that don't sell in numbers. They either have to give the masses what they want or leave the smartphone market.

I give them credit for still giving us a great device that at it's core is still a V series (Advanced camera, video, mics and Quad DAC) while moving to a more modern look. In the process we are getting a slightly larger OLED (THANK YOU!) display in a smaller sleeker package. In the end I lament the loss of the removable batter but can live with it and at least am getting a nice package in exchange. Oh and they don't appear to be joining the, "lets charge $1000" bandwagon, so kudos to LG if this proves to be true.

I find the software second screen a suitable substitute. You get the same functionality and can make the device smaller and more compact. I'm happy with the trade off.

I'm ok with giving up a few of those feature to still have a V series offered. Hopefully it will sell lots of unites and keep LG in the game.